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[7:59] he call to order this connected city
[8:00] council committee meeting for Monday
[8:02] February 5th
[8:04] 2024 and the first committee is finance
[8:06] Mr M there thank you madam president
[8:10] call to order finance committee and
[8:12] first item is an intergovernmental
[8:14] cooperation
[8:18] agreement good evening good evening uh
[8:21] we're looking to inter to agreement with
[8:23] the S County Probation Department to
[8:25] accept $40,000 of their give grant
[8:27] funding to
[8:29] add it to our give grant funding to be
[8:31] used towards our anti-violence
[8:33] coordinator that we have working for us
[8:35] currently it's the amount of
[8:37] $40,000 no matching no this match and
[8:41] this These funds were actually included
[8:43] in my original budget request for
[8:45] revenue and I put it together originally
[8:47] so this would uh round out the total
[8:49] revenue any
[8:52] questions may have a motion Mo second all in favor all right
[8:58] I next item is the grant award better
[9:02] cities for pets Chief yes uh this is
[9:06] award from Mars pet care and Civic
[9:07] Design Center in the amount of $20,000
[9:10] with an additional $2,000 available are
[9:13] for Consulting support these would go
[9:16] towards create the program the scti pets
[9:18] are Family 2 assistance program for
[9:20] residents within the city if anyone has
[9:22] any specific questions on the program
[9:24] itself I Lieutenant Dalton who drafted
[9:26] up the program if you don't mind us give
[9:28] us an update real
[9:30] prly so the uh Grant we became a better
[9:34] cities for Pet City uh certified last
[9:37] year may McCarthy asked me to look into
[9:39] a grant opportunity for uh for this
[9:43] grant that was going to be awarded
[9:44] there's just a certain number of cities
[9:45] in the United States that are going to
[9:46] get it so I looked at past programs and
[9:49] some needs of the city and people in our
[9:51] community and came up with this program
[9:54] um submitted it with the help of
[9:55] Michelle Davis and my ACO Elizabeth book
[9:59] and we came up with this program we were
[10:01] selected to win the Grant and uh it's
[10:05] aim of the grant is to establish the
[10:08] program which will help uh Indigent
[10:10] people or people experience crisis with
[10:13] pets um help them keep their pets so if
[10:16] somebody has a house fire and they don't
[10:18] have food they need medical issues with
[10:22] the with the animal they need uh help
[10:25] with uh crates and and uh supplies and
[10:27] stuff like this this gives an Avenue for
[10:29] us to help them out there's also
[10:34] um so there's also some other help in
[10:36] here that wasn't previously available
[10:38] through the city code for uh help with
[10:40] dog licensing rabies vaccinations vet
[10:43] costs and other uh housing and housing
[10:46] supply issues so basically this gives us
[10:49] a way to help people in crisis with
[10:51] their
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[10:53] animals uh this is primarily for City
[10:56] residents this is only for City res
[11:00] any other questions does this apply to
[11:02] dog
[11:06] ciz by you're
[11:08] good
[11:10] than that's all right we'll beat
[11:13] you um does this apply to dogs cats and
[11:16] there other animals that need to be
[11:17] licensed with the city does that matter
[11:20] have any we only license dogs so that
[11:23] wouldn't matter if their pets
[11:25] are we'll just send them into the
[11:27] clerk's office so they can get license
[11:29] the next if for the purpose of Licensing
[11:31] it only would apply to dogs but for the
[11:34] medical food housing and supplies um it
[11:37] doesn't matter what the pet is we'll be
[11:38] able to help with
[11:40] that so was there some conversation it's
[11:43] sort of like um what's going along with
[11:45] what M man said about at least
[11:47] registering other animals so in case
[11:49] there's an emergency a fire or something
[11:51] they know that the animals there is that
[11:53] going be a a part of or something that
[11:56] you plan on doing no that's not part of
[12:00] but okay I thought that was something
[12:01] that we were talking M
[12:03] President we are doing that as a part of
[12:06] a discussion with local company in terms
[12:09] of upgrading our licensing process and
[12:13] automating it allow better record
[12:15] keeping with that and while it's
[12:19] primarily focusing on
[12:21] dogs the option would be there is what
[12:24] we're exploring that'll come back to the
[12:26] city council for final decision but the
[12:29] option would be for uh an individual
[12:32] family to register a pet so that if
[12:35] there was a fire or some other event
[12:37] there that a responder would know that
[12:40] there's cats uh some other animal in the
[12:44] building and and could act accordingly
[12:47] but it wouldn't be licensing but it
[12:48] would just be again a
[12:50] registry thank
[12:52] you I was just going to add um I I
[12:55] should specify this isn't only for
[12:57] people who have uh problem with a fire
[13:00] it's for for any crisis situation so it
[13:02] could be domestic violence it could be
[13:04] homelessness that is uh being
[13:06] experienced or addiction issues where
[13:09] somebody needs to uh they lose their
[13:11] house because of that or they have to go
[13:12] to rehab or something like that there's
[13:14] a variety of circumstances people could
[13:16] apply
[13:17] for and is this is this a yearly this is
[13:21] a yearly Grant so we have to apply for a
[13:23] year if we run out of
[13:25] funds I believe this is a two-year Grant
[13:28] and uh
[13:29] we have to recertify with better cities
[13:31] every two years thank you um I'd just
[13:34] like to thank you and and Animal control
[13:36] officer Liz and Michelle Davis for uh
[13:39] working on this Grant and getting it the
[13:42] mayor help out a little
[13:44] bit and may Gary McCarthy I'd like to
[13:47] thank Gary Gary McCarthy as we all know
[13:50] uh our pets become part of our family
[13:52] and our life and especially when you're
[13:54] in crisis um you definitely want to keep
[13:56] them with you so thank you very much
[13:59] thank Lieutenant dton put it together
[14:01] we're the only city in New York state
[14:02] that has this designation for Mars and
[14:05] so that they're looking forward of
[14:07] working with us not only through this
[14:08] grant but the licensing program and some
[14:11] are just general interaction to make the
[14:13] community more pet
[14:15] friendly thank you is there a timeline
[14:18] to hold these
[14:19] bets I'm sorry
[14:22] timeline to hold
[14:24] them if somebody gets in Crisis crisis
[14:27] how long you hold
[14:30] uh it's going to depend on every
[14:31] circumstance because you know we can't
[14:34] predict the actual needs um there would
[14:36] be a timeline where uh what would apply
[14:39] to if there hous that Mohawk Hudson
[14:42] which would be $120 in shelter
[14:45] assistance for Mohawk Hudson which would
[14:48] be uh 3
[14:50] days any other
[14:53] questions see may have a motion Mo
[14:56] second second all favor thank you thank you thank
[15:04] you the next item is a 2024 capital
[15:07] budget reappropriation thato upgrade Mr
[15:13] Ferrari council president Council mayor
[15:17] um the 2024 capital budget part of it uh
[15:21] that was passed included $200,000 for uh
[15:24] it equipment and servers um well we told
[15:29] by the IT department is that there's a a
[15:31] definite and early need to to get these
[15:33] servers uh uh the storage units and the
[15:37] upgrades of the network uh switches as
[15:39] early as possible now as we go through
[15:41] the process of getting the uh Capital
[15:44] project going uh we would not receive
[15:47] the money until May of 2024 whereas we
[15:50] like to put in uh invoices and start
[15:52] purchasing um this equipment now so that
[15:55] we have it in a timely miror uh this is
[15:58] something that that we've done in the
[15:59] past uh mostly with the garbage trucks
[16:01] where what we like to do is borrow the
[16:03] use the money from our fund balance up
[16:05] until we receive our uh uh loan money uh
[16:09] from the ban or bond that we're about to
[16:11] take once we receive that money in may
[16:13] we will reimburse the uh fund balance uh
[16:17] in that amount to make it
[16:19] even so what we're looking to do is move in start allocating the money as
[16:24] soon as possible so we can start the
[16:26] purchase of uh the storage units uh the
[16:29] recovery upgrades and the servers and
[16:32] the
[16:35] switches question any questions see on
[16:39] may have a motion second thank you very
[16:41] much all in favor I thank you thank you
[16:44] and it thanks you
[16:45] too thanks the next item is the call for
[16:49] public hearing the Central Park sidewalk
[16:51] Improvement
[16:52] project um just an update last Monday we
[16:55] had a wonderful meeting with had several
[16:57] of the homeowners in Central Parkway and
[17:00] they pretty much give us an okay to move
[17:02] forward with a sidewalk project um
[17:05] something that has been many years in
[17:07] the waiting for and it's finally going
[17:09] to happen so I'm going to ask U Mr wng
[17:11] just to give us a brief update you on
[17:15] the project and the PA
[17:20] forwards hello so as many of you were
[17:23] aware uh cuz a lot of you were in
[17:25] attendance we had a public meeting for
[17:28] Central Parkway for sidewalks uh a
[17:30] Monday ago and the outcome of that
[17:33] meeting was that the residents of the
[17:35] street unanimously with the residents
[17:37] who were in attendance unanimously
[17:39] supported the idea of maintaining the
[17:41] character of the street as it is uh and
[17:44] leaving the street essentially uh how it
[17:48] is constructed today which is with no
[17:50] parking on the roadway it was explain
[17:52] that to uh accommodate parking on the
[17:55] roadway to code uh to make the lanes
[17:58] wider we would be losing uh a majority
[18:01] of the mature trees within the envelope
[18:03] of the roadway and this was deemed uh
[18:06] not acceptable to those in attendance so
[18:09] what we will be doing is I have uh some
[18:11] information we revised our typical
[18:13] sections and the concept and we will be
[18:16] making that available as materials for
[18:18] the public hearing and we will see uh I
[18:21] think we will also be mailing out that
[18:23] to all of the residents on the street so
[18:25] that they uh even those who weren't in
[18:27] attendance can see what is being
[18:29] proposed for the roadway and then um
[18:31] hopefully if there are any objections or
[18:33] support they will come to the public
[18:35] hearing then from that point from the
[18:37] public hearing on uh we'll take that as
[18:40] a notice to proceed with the design and
[18:42] then move forward with the design of the
[18:44] project um the schedule that I roughly
[18:46] gave was that it'll take us uh probably
[18:49] a month to do the design of it since
[18:51] it's going to be a little simpler with
[18:54] it being inside uh of the roadway that's
[18:56] existing and then we're looking to bid
[18:58] in April with construction in the
[19:05] summer go ahead um definitely thank you
[19:07] for putting on uh the event Mr M as well
[19:11] um I was asking with the mailers that
[19:13] were going to go out to the households
[19:14] do we certify mail just because I want
[19:16] to ensure how do we concern confirm
[19:20] receipt okay we could certify mail yes
[19:23] we'll do mailing also we'll do um hand
[19:25] deliver because the organizer who is
[19:28] guing us along this they will also be
[19:30] integral and helping us make sure
[19:31] everybody has a copy of the new version
[19:34] that we're moving
[19:37] forward and I'm sorry you said
[19:39] construction begin plan oh oh probably
[19:40] in the summer I would say sometime
[19:42] probably in August okay thank you an
[19:45] estimated to be like 3 months out three
[19:48] months out to complete the job yeah yeah
[19:50] I would say 60 days you will see the
[19:52] majority of the work but 90 would be a
[19:54] good window so we want to make sure that
[19:55] it's done this year but if we can if we
[19:57] can get it out and April that should
[19:59] give us a big enough time frame and like
[20:00] I explained at the meeting uh the
[20:02] project is fairly straightforward um the
[20:05] thing that we're just going to have to
[20:06] uh research is work with John on we are
[20:09] going to look to upgrade the lighting on
[20:10] the roadway there was a desire for that
[20:12] so we're going to uh look at the
[20:15] decorative white poles and where a meter
[20:17] would go things like
[20:19] that yeah I think that's that came up of
[20:22] the discussion is to make sure that we
[20:24] are following your guideline your
[20:25] timeline sorry to make sure that we have
[20:27] call for the public hearing and not and
[20:30] any impede your U mov yeah no this is as expedited as you can have it
[20:34] to call for public hearing the week
[20:36] after the meeting can't get faster than
[20:39] that so it's good any other questions
[20:41] comments I just yeah I just want to say
[20:43] it was nice to attend that and I just
[20:45] think anytime we're providing the
[20:47] citizens with an opportunity to really
[20:49] weigh in on uh you know what the
[20:51] neighborhood is going to look like I
[20:52] think this is a clear win for that so
[20:54] thank you for your work and thank you uh
[20:56] Mr M for that as well thank everyone for
[20:59] participating and help us along the way
[21:01] it's not it's not one or two person was
[21:03] pushing is all of us so may I have a
[21:06] motion to move forward calling for
[21:07] public hearing second all in favor thank
[21:11] you the next item is international broad
[21:15] Electrical Workers Local 236
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[21:25] agreements oh sorry
[21:28] sounds good to
[21:32] me took a
[21:35] while say off to you just going give us
[21:37] a brief of this
[21:39] agreement
[21:42] summarize executive session it's
[21:44] contract right isn't the contract these
[21:46] have yeah sorry sorry these have to do
[21:48] with contract
[21:50] so we should we should take these into
[21:52] executive
[21:53] session uh you could if you have uh
[21:57] specific issues
[21:58] there if Council has specific questions
[22:02] I can answer them or want to go into
[22:04] executive session we have been provided
[22:07] the uh terms and
[22:09] conditions we
[22:12] should yeah CU they yeah please okay so
[22:16] for the three three item item five six
[22:18] and seven we'll go um move those into
[22:20] executive
[22:22] session and then we'll move for the next
[22:24] item number eight B Hill property lease
[22:27] agreement Miss bfield thank you um so
[22:31] I'm bringing this forward U the city
[22:33] owns a property which it rents out on
[22:35] Bev Hill and um and it's it it's where
[22:39] the um the municipal water reservoir is run from and so you it's on btown LOA
[22:46] I've provided all of you with the last
[22:48] agreement which was in
[22:50] 2015 and we haven't raised the rent from
[22:53] $500 since 2015 so um since
[22:58] uh it's going revenue is like going to
[23:00] be top of our list this year um I
[23:02] brought this forward so we can really
[23:04] consider increasing this rent uh $500
[23:06] for rent is not even close to in line
[23:08] with what people are paying today uh
[23:11] almost any place so I'm bringing this
[23:13] forward so we can have a discussion
[23:14] around increasing um that that rent
[23:18] after 9 years probably something that
[23:20] should have been done yearly but it
[23:22] wasn't so um I think we should take into
[23:27] consideration what the RS are these days
[23:29] and they're anywhere between $1,100 and
[23:33] $1,500 um so I think we should as a
[23:35] council um consider increasing the rent
[23:38] on this
[23:42] property goad please well I guess I'd
[23:44] want to know you know how much you
[23:46] wanted to increase it by but also uh I'm
[23:50] thinking that we probably have some sort
[23:51] of agreement with the employee that is
[23:53] in the home so we have to figure that
[23:56] out into the context of it as well in
[23:58] terms of that person's salary or it
[24:01] probably has been a benefit of the job
[24:03] so I mean you know to change it um would
[24:07] affect that as well so um I'm not sure
[24:10] if it's a benefit of job I do know that
[24:12] we pay also pay the National Grid so um
[24:14] that's a part of it as well so it's just
[24:16] the last 500 is all that that the
[24:18] individual is paying so um if we need to
[24:21] take a look at their um their contract
[24:23] as in terms of an employee we certainly
[24:25] can do that but um definitely after 9
[24:29] years $500 in 2024 is a very quite
[24:32] reasonable
[24:34] rent go ahead please and then to your
[24:37] point U Miss Patrick I don't think we
[24:38] need to reset the market with regards
[24:40] like raising the rent but definitely I
[24:42] can uh see Miss porterfield's point of
[24:44] having rents at that um at that
[24:46] threshold for a considerable amount of
[24:48] time truly renting is an issue
[24:50] throughout the city so I definitely
[24:51] think we are beyond the timeline to just
[24:54] reevaluate and again I do not think we
[24:56] need to increase it substantial um
[24:59] amount but definitely I think it is
[25:01] beyond the point of consideration to at
[25:03] least increase it
[25:06] somewhat go ahead you have okay yeah I I
[25:10] would like to I think I spoke on this
[25:12] before that um I've looked lots of
[25:14] places where um human board or housing
[25:16] is a benefit and a consideration of the
[25:19] job that that that was held um I'd like
[25:22] to know what it you know if there's
[25:24] anything in the contract um for this
[25:26] individual who who resides here um and
[25:30] if there's not I would like to put
[25:31] something maybe into the contract I
[25:33] don't know how we would do that stating
[25:34] that this would be a benefit and of the
[25:38] uh position that
[25:42] this Mr go ahead please sorry I was
[25:46] going to ask yeah no I was just um
[25:48] wondering and this is probably a point
[25:50] of clarity for me as well if we're
[25:51] talking about a particular individual
[25:53] and employee and the benefits um isn't
[25:56] that something that we should be
[25:57] discussing EXA your session or not I
[26:00] think we should because it's going to
[26:02] get deeper and as we discuss here in
[26:05] public about a specific
[26:08] employee so I am suggesting that we um
[26:11] take it into executive session okay
[26:14] absolutely and we can ask the may have
[26:15] for more update on the individual and if
[26:18] there's any person found sorry an
[26:20] agreement in their contract and the
[26:25] contract is this part of the contract
[26:27] May
[26:29] with this
[26:30] person I'm not sure what contract you're
[26:33] asking about um there are council
[26:34] members who seem to think that as part
[26:36] of this employees um employment this is
[26:39] part of what they're
[26:41] guaranteed there is substantial other
[26:44] activities that the employee does that
[26:46] have not been narrated as part of the
[26:48] discussion tonight would reflect the
[26:50] overall
[26:51] value that
[26:53] [Applause]
[26:56] arrangement I think we should but 9
[26:58] years is a significant amount of time
[27:00] and and over those 9 years we have um
[27:02] increased the individual salary so it's
[27:04] not like we're not increasing their
[27:06] salary but we now we're trying to
[27:07] increase their rent so I think it's a a
[27:08] worthwh
[27:11] conversation so we'll move this into
[27:13] executive session finance committee uh
[27:16] we'll have four items for the executive
[27:19] session St know what item we have a
[27:22] motion to recess Mo second all in favor
[27:26] thank you
[27:35] okay have to call order government Ops
[27:37] so um we have four agenda items the
[27:39] first agenda is mwv Project updates
[27:42] contract compliance and that's Mr
[27:44] M thank you uh sir um just up this this
[27:49] is something that we have been doing for
[27:50] some time Dred for a year or two and
[27:53] we're ask our perative action officer um
[27:57] to give us an update of where we are in
[27:59] terms of U project compliance in terms
[28:01] of
[28:02] mwbe and if we what is our goal and our
[28:06] aim aims and objectives in terms of
[28:09] achieving U the mwb requirement so I ask
[28:13] you just give us a brief up
[28:22] there good evening good afternoon thank
[28:24] you for the opportunity um yeah just in
[28:28] uh in summary just in a brief uh update
[28:31] uh 23 has been a rather um challenging
[28:34] year when it comes to you know just
[28:36] doing business and anything in general
[28:38] but in terms of our mwbe compliance um
[28:42] our goals uh is basically uh 30% unless
[28:46] we're overridden by uh you know state
[28:48] agency or federal agency 15% for
[28:51] minority 15% for for women um during 23
[28:56] we had uh 15 projects that was uh that
[29:00] we were monitoring and tracking and our
[29:02] overall goals on those that we reached
[29:04] was
[29:05] 189% for the W M wbe combined and then
[29:09] for the MBE by itself was 5% so uh you
[29:13] know we got a ways to go our program
[29:16] itself is good but you know it's it's
[29:18] time for you know enhancement and moving
[29:20] forward and bringing in some things and
[29:23] tools to make it work um so so you know
[29:27] there there's a lot there so that's
[29:28] pretty much where we are we're pretty
[29:30] much in line with most uh agencies
[29:33] around the the region anything pretty
[29:37] much out of New York City we're pretty
[29:38] much in that ballpark in terms of where
[29:40] they are so so we've had a lot to uh to
[29:44] do that
[29:45] also because of the funding that we have
[29:48] we've been focusing on the section three
[29:50] component as well and we've had a lot of
[29:53] good success in terms of the lead
[29:55] program and getting section three
[29:58] uh contractors involved and we're
[30:00] fortunate in that regard because all of
[30:02] the contractors that participate in that
[30:04] program are section three and all of the
[30:06] workers with the exception of two
[30:08] workers are sex residents so so we have
[30:11] a good um response and a good robust
[30:14] program there but again we have an issue
[30:18] with capacity getting more firms out
[30:21] here to participate and building up the
[30:23] capacity and you know things along those
[30:24] lines so that's where we're um you focus
[30:27] it on to try to you know make that
[30:30] happen any questions concerns yeah so um
[30:34] I I have two questions actually um
[30:36] compared to our past years he said I um
[30:40] are we seeing any Improvement first and
[30:42] foremost yes to answer your question yes
[30:45] there's definitely Improvement um
[30:46] there's definitely uh momentum to moving
[30:48] the bar in a direction where it needs to
[30:50] be B but there's there's two things that
[30:53] we have to do here one is we have to
[30:56] encourage and uh entice more people to
[31:00] bid on opportunities uh and we have to
[31:03] encourage and uh entice the prime
[31:06] contractors to be more um outgoing in
[31:10] terms of reaching out and you know
[31:11] making that happen now terms of you know
[31:14] what the law requires and the good VAP
[31:16] efforts and all that stuff you know
[31:17] they're there but there's room to be
[31:20] made where we can really make a
[31:22] significant difference by one building
[31:24] the capacity of the furnit we're trying
[31:26] to bring on board bringing more
[31:27] companies into the fold and introducing
[31:30] opportunities and the third
[31:32] thing that this body can do I think is
[31:37] when you look at things specifically to
[31:38] the uh the street payment program now
[31:41] that's hist start we been on the low
[31:43] side 3% 2% or whatever but it's
[31:45] historically there because it's very
[31:47] limited store and historically the
[31:50] programs are put out in one big contract
[31:52] so for example you got the pav and the
[31:54] sidewalks and all that stuff to go
[31:56] together so you got one contractor that
[31:58] gets that so it's you limit the pool of
[32:01] firms that can participate in that space
[32:04] so one thing that could be considered is
[32:07] maybe on on a project like that is
[32:09] breaking the scope down in other words
[32:11] you know debundling some of these things
[32:13] so you can have more of an opportunity
[32:15] for some of the smaller firms to you
[32:17] know compete with and you know and what
[32:19] I mean by that specifically is do we
[32:21] have to have the sidewalks and the pav
[32:24] everything all in one can we break out
[32:26] the sidewalks something or can we you
[32:28] know do you know can we do something
[32:30] more creative so that you can de de
[32:32] bundle you know these pieces so that
[32:34] folks can have a little bit more
[32:36] opportunity to um you know participate
[32:39] in that
[32:40] space so just
[32:43] so I imagine that the reason why we
[32:46] bundle it might be maybe some cost
[32:47] savings or something like that but
[32:49] you're saying that by kinding to
[32:51] debundling that if you will it'll give
[32:52] more our minority women owned businesses
[32:56] uh who might I have the capacity of the
[32:58] low larger scale but where they can be
[33:00] more competitive they would have an
[33:02] opportunity okay thank you like Carl
[33:07] second question I oh well my other
[33:10] question I'm
[33:11] sorry my other he actually answered my
[33:13] other question
[33:15] so so my question was going to be I
[33:17] don't know if it's appropriate I know
[33:18] Chris was here Mr W um how realistic is
[33:21] it and I guess that question is for the council um to Deb bundle it I know
[33:25] you're basically highlighting some cost
[33:27] savings is there a specific reason uh
[33:30] could we get a followup from Mr W
[33:32] afterwards because if it is um a an
[33:36] option using that as an example it's
[33:38] very much something that we're going to
[33:39] be addressing in the coming months I
[33:41] think we should position ourselves to be
[33:43] able to open up those opportunities for
[33:45] some of our um NWS as your suggestion
[33:48] yeah absolutely and and the other thing
[33:50] that makes that uh particularly Merit at
[33:53] this particular juncture we've been
[33:55] working with the Empire State
[33:56] development you know technical
[33:58] assistance and we've been doing this to
[33:59] build the pool of firms out here and
[34:02] capacity so so part of our technical
[34:05] assistance realm is we'll helping firm
[34:07] prepare for they have access to bonding
[34:10] which which is a requirement and also
[34:12] the access to Capital but the technical
[34:15] assistance component goes in there you
[34:17] have to you know build them up to that
[34:19] level in other words the state they they
[34:21] have you know funding out there to
[34:23] support these types of programs and our
[34:25] street program is certainly part of that
[34:27] but they have to be prepared you know
[34:30] for this so you got to build them up you
[34:32] know to that level so some of the things
[34:34] that we've been doing in our program has
[34:36] been the technical assistance piece in
[34:38] terms of bringing firms to you know to
[34:40] the table uh building them up helping
[34:43] the get started um doing workshops in
[34:46] terms of of bidding uh going after
[34:49] project how to build relationship we
[34:51] spent a lot of time trying to introduce
[34:53] firms to like the cow hands of the world
[34:56] the carers of the world you know the
[34:58] empires of the world so it can be done
[35:01] we just have to convince you know the
[35:02] companies you know to do it and I give
[35:05] you a specific example of why this is
[35:06] relevant uh to us so a couple years ago
[35:10] Empire they won the Pagan project and we
[35:13] were able to get a single person hired
[35:17] by them to introduce them to the
[35:18] construction industry the same
[35:19] conversation we talking about doing so
[35:21] we got him in there and you know now
[35:24] he's been in there for 4 years or
[35:26] whatever but gradually move forward with
[35:28] the education process technical
[35:30] assistance through what we been doing
[35:32] with
[35:33] this H Community College for example we
[35:37] have another program that we work with
[35:38] the county offering people uh CDL
[35:41] driver's licenses so he got his CDL
[35:44] license last year um he's continued to
[35:47] work with Empire today now this year he
[35:49] just got his uh Class A U C device and I
[35:53] here a position to purchase uh one of
[35:55] our homes here in in the city so that
[35:58] justes give you a little bit of an idea
[36:00] of what we can do to plant the seeds you
[36:02] know to move forward you know in this uh
[36:05] in this
[36:06] Arena just just to add to that we don't
[36:09] mind U with question we have an mwb
[36:11] policy in place that we adopted U about
[36:13] two years ago and I think it's coming up
[36:16] this year for review bag so that's
[36:17] something we have bundled into the
[36:19] policy so we can when we revisit the
[36:21] policy we can able to extract that um
[36:24] separated the Cil so pleas still that
[36:28] thank you so thank you for this document
[36:30] I look forward to reading it um you know
[36:33] following the meeting um but just a
[36:36] couple of questions just in a quick
[36:37] review here but um in terms of these
[36:40] various training programs for example
[36:42] like the genarian cleaning program
[36:44] construction management Etc um how many
[36:47] folks do we have currently are those
[36:49] programs running now and how many
[36:52] students okay do we have um okay so with
[36:55] the um the Jor Pro that's something that
[36:58] just started this year so that was a
[37:00] unique opportunity that came about
[37:01] because when we talk about this public
[37:03] private partnership so we work with the
[37:05] City Mission and and Mike as well as go
[37:08] New York you as a private sector um so
[37:11] an opportunity to come that to take take
[37:14] an opportunity to get people into the
[37:16] cleaning U business so so that was the
[37:19] focus so we identifi three uh firms here
[37:22] locally you know MB mwbe and section 3
[37:25] company to to to come in and participate
[37:28] in this so out of that you had three
[37:30] companies that had an opportunity to
[37:32] work in this you know in this in this
[37:34] space and then today we have 12 people
[37:37] that have been hired to work so they're
[37:40] over here on proper State Street and
[37:42] then there's another one that's up INR
[37:45] so there's 12 people just in that uh
[37:47] that space there and and on this confess
[37:50] skills
[37:51] side um this year we've done three
[37:54] cohorts I think we had like 80 four
[37:57] people appli um you know they went
[38:00] through the process then we had 53 54
[38:03] that was actually enrolled and I think
[38:06] 33 completed the
[38:08] program so so this was an opportunity
[38:11] again these folks are working here
[38:13] locally some are working like up at the
[38:15] El school you know we got two or three
[38:17] of them up there you have one or two out
[38:19] of some of the older cohorts that went
[38:21] on to start their own you know little
[38:23] companies and uh so again we're trying
[38:26] to help them and assist them any way we
[38:28] can in terms of building capacity uh
[38:30] access to bonding and just being a uh an
[38:32] advocate for them so so I see my primary
[38:36] role as more like an advocate uh for you
[38:39] know the small business person that's
[38:40] trying to get on and and also the worker
[38:42] is trying to you know create the jobs
[38:44] and that's that's really where you know
[38:47] it it is and if we serious about really
[38:49] trying to make a difference it's one
[38:51] thing to say okay we have opportunities
[38:53] and you got 30% you got to go out there
[38:55] and get it but you don't get them tools
[38:57] and the support to you know to get there
[39:00] and then it really doesn't happen or
[39:02] it's very very short lived of people
[39:04] disappointed and and and we have to go
[39:06] get the message out there and be we try
[39:08] to have like honest conversations with
[39:09] folks but I get it all the time about I
[39:13] didn't see nobody working on this
[39:14] project I don't see nobody working on
[39:16] that up straight because they they
[39:17] didn't get it and U but yeah I to tell
[39:21] me I was I was like it's a game of
[39:23] numbers like 15 3 and one so for every
[39:25] opportunity you got to be going after 15
[39:27] three makes sense and you'll get but if
[39:29] you just going after just that one thing
[39:32] that one time then you don't get it and
[39:33] then everybody is the the enemy we out
[39:36] here every day trying to create
[39:38] opportunities open up doors uh build
[39:41] relationships collaborate with people
[39:43] and and most of our time is spent on a
[39:45] collaborative basis so we work with a
[39:46] lot of people a lot of agency Sun connec
[39:50] col be a tremendous resource and uh you
[39:54] know it's just making it work and a lot
[39:57] of resources here in the house so so
[39:59] there's a lot that goes into this this
[40:02] super not just a one shoot B all type of
[40:04] thing and people come in with all type
[40:06] of challenges you know you know be
[40:09] honest with you I I mean serious
[40:11] challenges so so sometime all they
[40:14] wanted somebody to listen to just to say
[40:15] hi and just know that we care you know
[40:17] something simple as that um sometime
[40:20] when we went through the gra program
[40:22] last year we had probably like over 20
[40:24] something businesses last year alone
[40:27] that got Grant so we gave like $200,000
[40:30] about so that that amount made a
[40:33] tremendous life cheesy difference to a
[40:35] lot of small companies so so we should
[40:37] be proud of what we're doing with these
[40:38] small businesses um we launched a small
[40:42] business award for what we had you know
[40:44] just basically recognized small business
[40:45] we had over 200 people that attended
[40:48] that event and and to this day people
[40:50] still talking about it and planning for
[40:52] next year and what what can we do and um
[40:55] you know so there a lot lot of
[40:56] excitement around here to do different
[40:58] things and and the last part of that is
[41:02] partnership with the school district um
[41:04] and how that relates to developing a
[41:06] pipeline to the to the workforce here CU
[41:09] if I'm looking at a 7 I'm saying 4 years
[41:11] or so that might be the person walking
[41:13] through these doors so what can we do to
[41:15] introduce to the public service why
[41:18] can't we have a mogam with young people
[41:20] coming around leave come to the council
[41:23] see what the city council does what to
[41:25] the mayor's office working all
[41:26] department so we have the opportunity we
[41:28] have the resources here and I think
[41:31] people are interested in it but we have
[41:34] to you know change our culture in terms
[41:37] of how we want to approach it how we
[41:38] make it feel like it's welcome and it's
[41:39] opportunity done in to make a difference
[41:42] so that's what we're trying to we're
[41:44] trying to
[41:45] do yeah looking at this report here on
[41:48] page two the
[41:50] subcontractors um the last subcontract
[41:52] that listed on this report um is
[41:55] carrying 8%
[41:57] MW can you highlight why is that
[41:59] happening looking at the others are 15
[42:02] 26% yeah the two with the A and the 3%
[42:05] those are primary the street M so you
[42:07] know a car and C so so you know it's just the the nature of the be it's
[42:15] tough to get folks into that space and
[42:17] we're trying to make it happen but the
[42:19] reality is is you know we we meet with
[42:22] them before the bid we meet with them
[42:24] doing the process doing the ad process
[42:26] and we do everything we can to merge
[42:28] them together and we do everything you
[42:31] know that we can to make it happen but
[42:33] at the end of the day this is what you
[42:35] end up with you know you know these two
[42:37] companies just happen they own the truck
[42:38] C they own the quir they you know they
[42:40] own everything so that's what I mean by
[42:43] if we want to seriously look at this
[42:45] think about debundling this thing you
[42:46] know so you can create opportunities and
[42:49] in one area that I looked at
[42:51] specifically to this was okay we're not
[42:53] going to get into the game going this
[42:55] route why can't we build a company why
[42:58] can't we encourage companies to partner
[43:00] up in a joint venture or something and
[43:02] we give them the resources and the tools
[43:04] to prepare themselves for the next level
[43:06] for example why can't we do like what
[43:08] they did out in Buffalo or something
[43:10] where you took a company and they got
[43:12] together they and they were able to get
[43:13] a milling machine so now you got a
[43:15] trucking company that's been working
[43:17] here and getting the crumb now they can
[43:18] go after the Milling part of that
[43:20] contract and stand a better opportunity
[43:23] but the reason why those two numbers are
[43:25] 8 to3 that's real
[43:26] what we're dealing with
[43:29] so do you have another question and
[43:31] that's fine I'm willing to continue to
[43:33] work with you revisiting policy and we
[43:36] can bring it forward to the council for
[43:38] to review it and move forward with any
[43:40] changes that we might have just one at
[43:42] the beginning you mentioned that um
[43:44] 2023 was a challenging year what are you
[43:47] going to take from that as you move into
[43:48] 2024 to remove those obstacles well I
[43:51] think uh the big thing is is is really
[43:54] staying focused parent down to there a
[43:56] couple it that we can deal with because
[43:58] you know in 22 you know earlier we
[44:01] thought we could conquer the world but
[44:03] the reality is is not going to happen so
[44:07] I'm pring down to do what I can in my
[44:09] space the best that I can do to um you
[44:13] know you know be honest with folks and
[44:15] you know transparent and and keeping it
[44:17] real having a real conversation but I
[44:19] think when you look at the reason why
[44:22] I'm so excited and think about the
[44:23] promising opportunities that's coming
[44:25] when you look at the people that's
[44:26] coming through the door and the lives
[44:28] that we're really changing and the
[44:30] little letters and notes that I get from
[44:32] people that's that's Greatful you know
[44:34] for the efforts you know it makes a
[44:36] difference that's what we the sty to
[44:39] move forward and you know keep it moving
[44:42] and also I think you know about pairing
[44:44] it down and and just becoming very very
[44:47] intentional about the direction that we
[44:49] really want to go and the message that
[44:50] we're trying to put out there I think
[44:52] we're on a a great track to make a
[44:54] difference um I participate and
[44:56] collaborate with a lot of people um you
[44:59] know that's been a way this happened I
[45:01] collaborate with the state I sit you
[45:04] know on small business um panel once a
[45:06] month to talk about issue what the
[45:08] reserv what other location doing and
[45:10] what can we be doing the viability of
[45:13] this that so so we spent a lot of time
[45:15] with a lot of Partners collaborating to
[45:17] make U these type of things happen so I
[45:20] bring that home here and you know put
[45:23] for that information and to open up to
[45:26] make a difference so so I know that
[45:30] there's you know there's a state there's
[45:32] a regulation and then I think you refer
[45:34] to earlier as what was known as like the
[45:35] good faith effort of these firms that
[45:37] they need to do this and um it seems to
[45:41] be that the good faith effort um uh even
[45:44] if these if they're being made they're
[45:47] not really getting the result that we
[45:49] would like to do um outside of the
[45:52] bundling some of the projects um when we
[45:54] were bringing in these larger firms
[45:56] um uh you know are they expressing a
[46:00] commitment to this work are they
[46:02] expressing I mean they companies and
[46:04] they're in to make profit so we need to
[46:05] be honest about that but I'm saying like
[46:07] are we you know really encouraging them
[46:10] or or having a really uh explicit
[46:14] conversation around our commitment to
[46:15] this and and and do you see some
[46:17] alignment or do you still seeing that
[46:18] that's pretty far apart no it's not it's a process so so to that end I think
[46:25] they're not jumping up and down to make
[46:27] this happen they're doing what's what's
[46:29] required required so and I give you an
[46:31] example when come back to the to the a
[46:33] again I'll get a page you know stack of
[46:36] paper just stick on a good F what they
[46:38] do they go and print out the entire
[46:40] directory from Empire State direct you
[46:42] know from the state now that's crazy but
[46:46] that's what they do you know so who's
[46:48] going to thumb through 100 pages to try
[46:50] to find a single person that do whatever
[46:52] and then they don't break the scope down
[46:54] or they don't break the codes down what
[46:55] whatever so if you're a small guy you have to spend 8 hours a day just
[47:00] trying to decode some of these numbers
[47:02] in there so that you can even get to the
[47:04] point of putting in a bit so we have to
[47:07] build a capacity up in terms of helping
[47:08] folks get prepared to get into that
[47:11] space we have to encourage these smaller
[47:13] firms why can't they look into like
[47:15] mental project relationship but that's
[47:17] the next thing that we're working on now
[47:19] what was that mental prot relationship
[47:21] so that's where a company a smaller
[47:23] company would pair up with the you know
[47:26] majority firm that will basically keep
[47:27] in the roads and also open up
[47:29] opportunities for them and then by
[47:31] having a formal relationship or formal
[47:34] agreement you know they would have
[47:36] opportunities for the smaller forun to
[47:38] you know get smaller some of the smaller
[47:40] contracts they may have and you build
[47:41] relationship that's going to go you know
[47:44] four or five years and six years but
[47:46] also part of that learning process is we
[47:49] have to let I I cuz it's not all on that
[47:52] side it's over here too but they have to
[47:54] you know submit this a bid if the bid
[47:57] date is June 21st at 11:00 you can't
[48:00] come yelling to me July 1st why I'm not
[48:02] on it when they start but that's what
[48:04] happens a lot you
[48:07] know to add to that Miss uh party we did
[48:10] remove the the those words good Fai
[48:12] effort in our in theb policy because we
[48:14] find that some people just they're not
[48:16] making the effort to to ACH achieve the
[48:19] percentage so that we change to Gold
[48:22] instead of good F effort so they have to
[48:25] show
[48:26] the reason why they can't achieve the
[48:28] percentage exactly and you control that
[48:31] pretty much in terms of they have to
[48:33] something the people work and things
[48:35] like that to show cause yeah yeah we
[48:37] work with them on that and and we're not
[48:39] opposed to working with them and and
[48:41] understanding reality I mean we do
[48:42] understand we don't have capacity here
[48:44] to take on full 30% but we are building
[48:47] more firm building the capacity of the
[48:49] ones that we have and encouraging joint
[48:51] venturing and partnering things like
[48:52] that which ultimately means that we're
[48:54] going to be creating jobs while
[48:57] connected support so on that completing
[49:00] jobs because you told us before that 84
[49:03] people enrolled and 33 completed um but
[49:06] didn't say how many people actually got
[49:08] employment do you know that number I I
[49:10] do know that like three El Avenue and exp you know can I get this data
[49:15] from the career counselor so they track
[49:17] all the data for us so they they do all
[49:19] the intake and they do all the
[49:21] monitoring uh followup but I don't I
[49:23] don't know exactly how many is we except
[49:26] for those three that's up here out of
[49:28] this particular country because I mean
[49:30] that really sells the program people
[49:32] actually became important so that would
[49:33] be absolutely absolutely good dat to
[49:35] have absolutely you know and part of
[49:37] that is the challenge is when when
[49:40] people finish you know if the agreement
[49:41] is you're supposed to check in every
[49:43] month let us know what's happening you
[49:44] work know any issues whatever but they
[49:47] don't they don't follow through that so
[49:48] they have a tough time just getting the
[49:50] data so we don't know unless somebody
[49:52] has an issue or they get back to us or
[49:54] something like that
[50:02] sorry what what kind of Outreach do you
[50:06] do to try to get folks I mean are we
[50:08] advertising in the Z are we what what do we do to try to promote these
[50:13] that we have these opportunities yeah
[50:15] well we work with Ser so we do a
[50:17] newsletter monthly you know that that
[50:20] goes out so so we have a very robust um
[50:24] means there and and very very responsive
[50:27] and also we work with you know
[50:28] organizations so we try to collaborate
[50:30] with anybody that we can so you know
[50:33] work with our partners and getting the
[50:34] work out and just talking to people and
[50:37] you know that's how we're you know we're
[50:38] able to do it and I I think that's an
[50:41] area that we can um you know get more
[50:43] robust on so you know maybe get know
[50:45] some of the other um social media means
[50:49] to you know make it happen but um we
[50:53] have a a good um groundwork there we you
[50:57] know we got a good foot started and
[50:58] we've been very very fortunate because
[51:01] you know we just have to have I haveen
[51:03] to have a lot of support around me I got
[51:05] syvia that's that's tremendous with you
[51:07] know doing the stuff got Jamie you know
[51:09] over the college so that's how these
[51:11] things happen you know you know I may
[51:14] know you know who to talk to or how to
[51:16] have a conversation with but they really
[51:18] are the ones that you know drive this
[51:21] bus so we want to you know update you
[51:23] know we can you know invest more in
[51:25] getting me more out the messaging and
[51:27] you know doing more programs and and
[51:29] building on what we we're trying to do
[51:32] thank
[51:33] you any other questions or
[51:36] concern no I just want to thank you for
[51:38] putting this report together for us as
[51:41] usual I'll will try to engage your
[51:43] office more um you know rather waiting
[51:45] for a year let's do this maybe every um
[51:48] 6 months give us an update and then we
[51:51] can revisit the MW policy revision that
[51:54] your
[51:56] all right thank you again thank you Mr
[51:57] gner and next we have appointments to
[51:59] the Downtown special assessment District
[52:01] board and that mayor
[52:03] McCarthy thank you Mr chairman and put
[52:07] names forward uh for the council's
[52:11] consideration joining the dsic I think
[52:16] individuals are all
[52:19] here there any specific questions or
[52:22] comments on any of
[52:23] them ask for in favorable
[52:28] consideration I don't think those are
[52:30] they being
[52:34] appointed but they've already
[52:40] beened I'll move
[52:42] this second all in favor I was asking for a
[52:50] second
[52:54] hi
[52:56] okay thirdly we're going to uh move on
[52:58] to the appointment of res board resident
[53:00] residency board yeah I'd like to pull
[53:02] this for two weeks um individual that I
[53:04] wanted to bring forward um was not quite
[53:06] ready okay we didn't receive the resume
[53:08] as what I should say okay all right so
[53:11] uh next item agenda item is appointment
[53:14] to the ethics board yes um I brought
[53:16] this forward because we right now we
[53:18] have four people on the ethics board and
[53:22] um there was an opportunity if the other
[53:24] uh vcy didn't get filled for the council
[53:26] to fill it I wanted to bring forward um
[53:28] Mr Marne who resume to sit on the ethics
[53:32] board he in full disclosure was a former
[53:35] employee had an interest in sitting on
[53:36] the board when he was here but could not
[53:38] because there was always already an
[53:39] employee on the board and um I know the
[53:42] board has had trouble meeting and
[53:44] creating getting a forum excuse me a
[53:47] quorum and and right now the chair is
[53:49] going to be out for a while so that's
[53:51] going to even create more of a problem
[53:52] because there's um because he's you know
[53:55] he's he's unable to to be able to serve
[53:57] for a while so um I just wanted to bring
[54:00] this forward to um have the council
[54:02] consider um Mr Marne for a seat on the
[54:05] ethics
[54:07] board any questions concerns comments
[54:09] around that is this is this a council
[54:13] appointment if the if the mayor doesn't
[54:15] um is then within 30 days as the council
[54:18] could that's what it says in the code
[54:20] and we they're having a problem and we
[54:22] didn't get that fourth fifth person for
[54:24] the ethics board
[54:27] Mr CH I'm sorry can you repeat that yes
[54:30] I can that the the code says that the if
[54:32] within 30 days there's not when the
[54:34] board is convened and they they don't um
[54:37] there's opening that the council can put
[54:39] it
[54:41] Forward
[54:43] okay yes 30 days of when I'm sorry I'm just missing well actually the code
[54:47] says 30 days when the board is um
[54:49] created but so this board was
[54:53] reconvened I can't remember last year
[54:56] for in order to um look at
[54:59] some concerns that were brought forth
[55:01] against a council member that were
[55:02] convene and since that time there's
[55:03] still been that that last opening has
[55:05] been there so it's well over 30 days so
[55:06] it's well over 30 days
[55:11] okay any thoughts comments on
[55:15] this I'll entertain a motion so move
[55:18] second all those in favor I passes at this time I would like to
[55:25] close out government operations so Mo
[55:27] second all those in favor I we I'd like
[55:31] to cour to aitor Public Safety Committee
[55:33] we have one item on the agenda tonight
[55:34] that is to discuss the amendment to the
[55:36] city code Chapter 93 uh section three
[55:39] which specifically speaks about term
[55:40] limits holdovers and vacancies um before
[55:43] I ask Mr Keith St John to speak about um
[55:46] how this is felt as a member of the
[55:48] board I can definitely my time on the
[55:50] board as chair a few years ago uh
[55:53] definitely um vac concerns have been
[55:56] existing for a long period of time and
[55:58] that is one of the singular reasons that
[56:01] could prevent the council from or
[56:02] prevent the board excuse me from doing
[56:04] the work of reviewing the complaints uh
[56:06] so we are not at a crisis Point yet
[56:09] however we are at a point where we need
[56:10] to act hence having this brought on um I
[56:13] know with adjusting the code it requires
[56:15] a call for public hearing and as you can
[56:17] see the weeks start to add up so then if
[56:19] the council or excuse me if the board is
[56:21] then put in a position where they're not
[56:23] able to have quum then we are starting
[56:25] to have complaints pile up that aren't
[56:27] reviewed in a timely manner uh so Mr St
[56:30] John would you mind
[56:32] briefly just highlighting of some of the
[56:35] you've already told my joke so there's
[56:37] not more much more for me to add but I'm
[56:40] here really not only as a board member
[56:42] and thank you for those of you who
[56:43] helped me get there uh but in Denine
[56:46] Peter's absence she's the chair but
[56:49] currently on vacation and we'll be back
[56:50] later this week so I and perhaps another
[56:53] yes uh J hul is here from the board uh
[56:56] you've really summed it up well and by
[56:59] the last item on your agenda you're very
[57:02] familiar with the problems that are
[57:03] caused when a when a body is not either
[57:06] fully
[57:07] impanel uh or when uh the membership for
[57:10] whatever reason one of many uh don't
[57:13] meet in sufficient numbers so that
[57:15] there's a quarum that's what uh the
[57:18] current problem is facing the board and
[57:20] it will only get worse the longer it
[57:22] takes to find a remedy to that problem
[57:26] thank you Mr St John uh any questions or
[57:28] concerns from the
[57:29] councel uh hearing
[57:32] none yes so my uh proposition is and
[57:37] very much it came from opinions from
[57:39] Miss uh Porterfield and also um Mr who
[57:42] is the chair uh rather than removing
[57:44] organizations from having representation
[57:46] on the board uh the consideration was to
[57:48] add a 30-day stipulation so already
[57:51] before memb term is set to expire 60
[57:54] days prior to that an announcement is
[57:55] sent to the organization we are
[57:57] proposing to add an additional 30 days
[57:59] and after that point if a member or an
[58:02] alternate has not been selected from the
[58:04] organization that the opportunity then
[58:06] falls to the council to nominate someone
[58:08] at large uh and then also I wanted to
[58:11] use this opportunity to add in language
[58:13] for organizations to submit alternates
[58:15] uh now this is an individual that would
[58:17] not have any voting power as long as
[58:19] their primary was there however having a
[58:21] second person already vetted through the
[58:22] process completely streamlines having
[58:25] find a replacement
[58:26] theref I actually happen to think the
[58:28] current code provides provides for
[58:31] standby and those persons are the
[58:33] equivalent is I readed have an alternate
[58:36] can't vote medine until their primary is
[58:42] absent need to call for public hearing
[58:45] these
[58:46] changes any other questions patri oh no
[58:49] I was going to make the motion to second
[58:52] no
[58:53] sorry
[58:55] your scenario by which you would uh have
[58:58] the appointment go directly to the
[59:00] council believe that would have to go to
[59:02] the voters you can't we today I'm the
[59:05] appointing authority even though it
[59:07] comes from the groups going forward
[59:10] can't the can't reduce the authority of
[59:12] an elected official during their term of
[59:14] office so if you P that back so that I'm
[59:18] still part of the process you can move
[59:20] forward a public hearing and amend the
[59:21] code otherwise you would have to put it
[59:23] on the ballot for a formal vote November
[59:27] so you're saying the appointments would
[59:28] have to come from you if after the 30
[59:30] days to bring to the council
[59:36] yes were you sorry were you looking
[59:38] change that rision where the appointment
[59:42] come from it says it would go to the
[59:45] city council so it takes the mayor out
[59:47] of it I'm saying you can't do
[59:51] that so under the and all all the
[59:54] appointments under the current code um
[59:56] come from the mayor's office the names
[59:59] go to the mayor right I and supposed to
[1:00:01] be they're supposed to submit two names
[1:00:03] to me I'm supposed to pick one send it
[1:00:05] to the council we've made it more of a
[1:00:09] informal agreement where the names come
[1:00:11] in us there's two one is the primary
[1:00:14] designate one is the alternate so again
[1:00:17] it was trying to keep uh individuals in
[1:00:20] the pipeline to be able to have the
[1:00:22] board do its actual work
[1:00:25] so I would say with that information
[1:00:26] thank you Mr Mayor I would say as long
[1:00:28] as you are still open to receiving uh
[1:00:30] nominations from anyone which I believe
[1:00:31] you are y I have no issue with that uh
[1:00:35] so if we make a motion to have the
[1:00:37] public hearing yes make a motion to call
[1:00:40] the public hearing yes
[1:00:42] um sorry
[1:00:44] um I propose that the council uh wait
[1:00:47] one cycle so that we can propose the
[1:00:49] legislation that you can review it prior
[1:00:51] to having the public hearing okay that's
[1:00:53] fine yeah
[1:00:55] that's so we're going to keep this or
[1:00:58] added to the agenda for two
[1:01:00] weeks thank you whether there any other
[1:01:03] items that a follow Public Safety
[1:01:04] hearing have motion the only other thing
[1:01:06] that is where're we have a set
[1:01:10] of uh Community groups that were uh the
[1:01:14] focus when this legislation was
[1:01:17] drafted again I believe it's still a
[1:01:19] good group people may want to think over
[1:01:23] the next two weeks is there
[1:01:25] other organizations in the community
[1:01:27] that have shifted other areas of
[1:01:29] responsibility that you might want to
[1:01:31] have uh either as formal groups or ones
[1:01:35] that we would reach out informally in
[1:01:38] terms of recruiting membership for the
[1:01:40] board and I would say to that point um I
[1:01:43] want to be careful uh in how I speak to
[1:01:46] the members of the board um we were
[1:01:49] trying to sort of stop the issue from
[1:01:52] occurring and then allowing them what
[1:01:54] with a fuller board to then recommend um
[1:01:57] any additional measures for us to review
[1:02:00] at a later date so try not to overstep
[1:02:03] or I don't think we can for the
[1:02:06] council so we can adjust the code as we
[1:02:08] see fit but with respect to how this
[1:02:10] plays out for their uh interactions I
[1:02:13] would caution against over responding
[1:02:16] over over what I'm sorry over responding
[1:02:19] so allowing them the opportunity to
[1:02:21] expand or Rec to recognize where they
[1:02:24] believe additional organizations are
[1:02:26] necessary I think for so long we have
[1:02:28] not had a full board or they have not
[1:02:31] functioned with a full board
[1:02:33] so the
[1:02:35] uh Le the historic district commission
[1:02:39] requires me to send out a notice
[1:02:42] to predefined group MH if they send in
[1:02:47] names supposed to give those the First
[1:02:49] Act of consideration if they don't send
[1:02:51] any in then I can reach out and put
[1:02:57] names together which then come to the
[1:02:59] city council for confirmation that model
[1:03:02] may still be the better one so that you
[1:03:06] pointed out Carl we and sometimes people
[1:03:09] get it in timely sometimes they don't if
[1:03:12] uh we have a list of organizations we
[1:03:14] want to make sure they know there's a
[1:03:16] vacancy coming up uh there's the ability
[1:03:18] to serve and if they want to put
[1:03:20] somebody in that's fine if they don't
[1:03:23] we're going to do recruitment
[1:03:27] independent
[1:03:28] agree any other questions or
[1:03:31] comments so if they don't put in a name
[1:03:34] would we still be I I think I'm glad
[1:03:37] that we're waiting because there's a lot
[1:03:38] of questions herec because I just want
[1:03:41] to make sure I'm hearing you the right
[1:03:42] way so let's say it's um the Human
[1:03:45] Rights Commission doesn't put in a name
[1:03:48] would you still
[1:03:49] be looking for someone that's within the
[1:03:52] you know that was a bad example
[1:03:54] uh within the SKC United neighborhoods
[1:03:57] in other words would you still be
[1:03:58] looking for someone from that group or
[1:04:00] would you just say
[1:04:02] okay you know now they've sort of given
[1:04:04] up their opportunities so we can get
[1:04:06] anyone from the
[1:04:08] community or are we still need thinkig
[1:04:10] about the reality in these things you
[1:04:12] get widely variant times for recruitment
[1:04:15] sometimes you get levels of activity you
[1:04:17] got people coming forward and of course
[1:04:19] you have a list you hope they're going
[1:04:22] to put forth names but the reality is
[1:04:26] sometimes you can't get them to serve
[1:04:27] and you have to reach Beyond those
[1:04:30] organizational structures and then to
[1:04:32] that point sometimes we're dealing with
[1:04:33] organizations that aren't meeting on a
[1:04:35] monthly basis so then that lengthens the
[1:04:37] timeline so I think rather than
[1:04:39] expunging or adding uh I think this
[1:04:41] allows us to select an individual with
[1:04:44] the mayor uh for a term cycle which is
[1:04:46] two years and then after that point the
[1:04:48] opportunity for the organization to find
[1:04:50] a replacement is still present okay
[1:04:53] thank you
[1:04:54] all right so can I have a motion
[1:04:56] to proceed with the public hearing
[1:05:01] no bring back bring
[1:05:05] back all right if uh with that being
[1:05:07] said are there any other items that come
[1:05:09] before Public Safety Committee hearing
[1:05:11] on can motion to adjourn so move second
[1:05:13] all in
[1:05:15] favor I'd like to call the order City
[1:05:17] development and planning we have 11
[1:05:18] items on the agenda um Miss Carver has
[1:05:22] asked if we can move her up she does
[1:05:24] have a a daycare thing that she needs to
[1:05:26] take care so um so if you don't mind
[1:05:29] we'll move her to the top of the agenda
[1:05:30] to just give us the update on on
[1:05:38] Ara yeah and everyone should have it
[1:05:40] printed
[1:05:41] out good
[1:05:43] evening um I'm going to provide a high
[1:05:46] level update for you tonight on arpa um
[1:05:50] since we last met um coko house and DC
[1:05:53] and Hamilton Hill infi project they are
[1:05:56] currently pending a draft contract to be
[1:05:59] reviewed um by the mayor and Corporation
[1:06:02] Council Electric City Co-Op um has
[1:06:05] submitted 99% of their pre-contractual
[1:06:08] documents to meet their deadline for the
[1:06:10] extension of March 12th um we are still
[1:06:13] waiting for pre-contract pre-contract
[1:06:16] documents for the YMCA Harbor House as
[1:06:19] well some of the updates that I have for
[1:06:22] you tonight is is the miracle and great
[1:06:25] project um as last spoken we know that
[1:06:27] is not happening that is currently in
[1:06:30] the hands of Corporation Council the
[1:06:32] notice of default was sent and pending
[1:06:34] transfer
[1:06:37] title we received um also on hold at
[1:06:41] this time is the empowerment in dor
[1:06:44] Center that project is on hold um we
[1:06:47] received several request for additional
[1:06:49] um arpa funding um the first one to be
[1:06:52] discussed tonight is the Bethesda house
[1:06:54] Bethesda request an additional funding
[1:06:56] amount which the letter formal letter
[1:06:58] was sent to city council for review with
[1:07:00] supporting documents they ask for
[1:07:05] 400,000 the
[1:07:08] YMCA again another formal request was
[1:07:11] received they are asking for
[1:07:14] 100,000 that is to support the Black and
[1:07:18] Latino Achievers program and based on
[1:07:20] the letter um the supporting letter and
[1:07:23] for request they sent they currently
[1:07:25] have 62 young people in the program from
[1:07:27] SKC and they anticipate that number to
[1:07:29] double on this calendar year question um
[1:07:33] did this group submit an application the
[1:07:36] YMCA did not submit an application all
[1:07:38] right thank
[1:07:40] you and last but not least Miss Carver
[1:07:43] um how much money did they request
[1:07:46] 100,000 thank
[1:07:51] you sorry thank you and last but not
[1:07:54] least will be the YWCA they are
[1:07:57] requesting additional ARA funding um for
[1:08:00] 1.5
[1:08:02] million they currently have been
[1:08:04] allotted
[1:08:06] $750,000 and that was going that is
[1:08:09] being used to build 54 units of new
[1:08:12] construction um the 1.5 and additional
[1:08:15] funding that they are requesting is for
[1:08:17] construction and substantial
[1:08:18] Rehabilitation to their current 42 unit
[1:08:22] um housing structure on was
[1:08:25] and that concludes my arpa
[1:08:28] updates is this this the group that came
[1:08:30] they came before us before and that time
[1:08:32] wasn't it asked 850,000
[1:08:34] was right H this is um bethesa no y w on
[1:08:40] the back of the sheet the YW yeah I
[1:08:42] thought it was um when they came for
[1:08:44] additional funding was initial that was
[1:08:45] what during our credit session it was
[1:08:47] 850,000 when they sent the formal letter
[1:08:50] of request they asking
[1:08:52] for one point
[1:08:54] okay thank
[1:09:00] you but but Bethesda house weren't they
[1:09:04] I thought that their um request for
[1:09:06] additional funds was for 200,000 not our
[1:09:09] last meeting councilwoman I had misspoke
[1:09:12] ah okay it was 400,000 thank
[1:09:17] [Music]
[1:09:20] you and I do have another question so
[1:09:24] for for example um the Durer um
[1:09:28] Empowerment Center with with the city um
[1:09:32] so on hold how long are we going to keep
[1:09:36] things on hold for example because when do we get to the point where we say
[1:09:41] okay well maybe we could use the money
[1:09:43] in a different way didn't know if there
[1:09:45] was any discussion about that for that
[1:09:47] one I I'll speak in particular the um
[1:09:50] jury submit an application individually
[1:09:53] the EMP powerment submitted application
[1:09:55] individually but at some point they were
[1:09:58] put together um I'm assuming in the
[1:10:00] department of development I know that
[1:10:01] was pre pre pre you so at this point in
[1:10:04] time du as my understanding is wanting
[1:10:07] to move forward however because the
[1:10:09] Empowerment Center is not um positioned
[1:10:11] financially to move forward then that
[1:10:13] holds up that project as
[1:10:16] well and if I may add D's original
[1:10:20] application was for
[1:10:22] construction when merg this application
[1:10:25] and is now for
[1:10:29] programming so I guess the question to
[1:10:31] me becomes I don't know where the
[1:10:32] Empowerment Center I think this is going
[1:10:33] these are going to be longer
[1:10:34] conversations I don't know where the
[1:10:36] Empowerment Center is and do we leave
[1:10:38] Dory there because if if we leave Dory
[1:10:40] there and then um the Empowerment Center
[1:10:43] doesn't happen for whatever reason
[1:10:46] because there is a a huge funding Gap is
[1:10:48] my understanding than what happens to
[1:10:50] the other project
[1:10:52] so
[1:10:56] yes Mr Williams um I know um Mr Toro
[1:10:59] raised it during our last meeting of the
[1:11:01] conversation us not extending any
[1:11:03] additional um uh I want to say stays but
[1:11:07] theum that we use
[1:11:09] um not allowing any more postponements
[1:11:13] ex extensions um is there a timeline in
[1:11:17] your mind based on your familiarity with
[1:11:19] these projects when that date is going
[1:11:21] to have to be something where we start
[1:11:23] to miss Patrick's Point Rec cooping back
[1:11:26] some of these allotments well the last
[1:11:28] extensions that we have currently right
[1:11:30] now on file are March 12th so I would
[1:11:33] say anytime after March
[1:11:35] 12th
[1:11:40] okay I just have a general question on
[1:11:42] the YWCA asking for 100,000 um in our
[1:11:46] current budget we set aside
[1:11:48] $150,000 for a you program can we have
[1:11:52] them work
[1:11:54] with the mayor's office the school
[1:11:55] district and tap into this $150,000 have
[1:11:59] it under one
[1:12:01] umbrella what program is that YC ym ym
[1:12:06] for 100000 y yes sorry yes okay cuz we
[1:12:11] have $150,000 in the budget here so
[1:12:14] instead of spreading it why not bring
[1:12:15] them together and work along with the
[1:12:18] mayor the school
[1:12:20] district and you know I I'm just
[1:12:25] because I'm do not have budget in front
[1:12:27] of me I think the uh work with the
[1:12:29] school district was more around youth
[1:12:31] employment yes so I think I don't know
[1:12:33] that that would be I think that's a good
[1:12:34] idea but I don't know if they'll
[1:12:35] necessarily align than Patrick um that
[1:12:39] program has been around for a long time
[1:12:40] I was on the initial uh committee that
[1:12:43] set it up and it's they work with the
[1:12:46] school district but not really um it is
[1:12:49] a w it is a Capital District YMCA
[1:12:51] program so it's not not the same as uh
[1:12:55] the Youth Employment Program that we've
[1:12:56] had it's a wonderful program um with
[1:13:00] many graduates who have gone on to
[1:13:01] college um it's it's just a great
[1:13:04] program but but a question are we going
[1:13:06] to be utilizing the entire 150,000 maybe
[1:13:08] we take a portion of that you know
[1:13:11] consider that is I'm trying that on the
[1:13:12] table they're asking for 60 I think
[1:13:15] 100,000 oh 100 we could look at that
[1:13:18] again to see if there is some overlap or
[1:13:22] because I think in the last year there
[1:13:23] were some um savings from the last
[1:13:26] program yeah I think we can look at so
[1:13:27] we can look at that as a cable domain
[1:13:29] and see if we can tap in and give them
[1:13:31] some U funding through the 150 mhm and
[1:13:34] then I think after March 12th we
[1:13:37] may be able to revisit other funds I
[1:13:40] just want to bring that to
[1:13:43] that okay so yes Mr Toro thank you um
[1:13:48] how much are for money out there which
[1:13:52] hasn't been
[1:13:54] that is a finance
[1:13:59] [Music]
[1:14:02] question Mr Mr Ferrari did supplies with
[1:14:05] a report actually during um budget
[1:14:07] season so it should be we probably pull
[1:14:09] up in emails and actually send it to you
[1:14:11] because we did get that from him how
[1:14:13] much money was unallocated not unspent
[1:14:15] but unallocated uhhuh yeah so um we
[1:14:20] really I think um we need to actually
[1:14:22] take a deep look at these before
[1:14:25] we making decisions and I would suggest
[1:14:28] we put that on for um two weeks um we
[1:14:31] could conceivably call a special meeting
[1:14:34] and meet only to discuss arpa if the
[1:14:35] council's open to it since we definitely
[1:14:37] have these that we need to discuss so
[1:14:40] that's something that we could also um
[1:14:42] and just make that eting just about the
[1:14:44] AR of money because we really need to
[1:14:46] start closing the door um I don't know
[1:14:48] if that's the best term I use and we
[1:14:49] need really start wrapping this
[1:14:52] up so so yes Mr Williams I do remember
[1:14:55] those conversations being rather lengthy
[1:14:57] and then if we're going to give each
[1:14:58] project the needed time and attention I
[1:15:00] think especially meeting makes
[1:15:06] sense so we can um um ask M mik to send
[1:15:11] out um when you're we're available for
[1:15:13] that and then we can come up and have a
[1:15:15] special meeting and it will be announced
[1:15:16] and public will be able to listen or
[1:15:18] even come I look forward to
[1:15:22] it thank you very much Miss
[1:15:25] haror okay um returning to the agenda uh
[1:15:29] the first item is to authorize the mayor
[1:15:31] or his designity to enter into easement
[1:15:33] and maintenance agreement Mr Wallen he's
[1:15:40] back thank
[1:15:42] you so uh I'd like to acknowledge Phil
[1:15:45] more from the room uh
[1:15:47] is uh you know the uh director of
[1:15:50] procress theater 432 State Street as you
[1:15:52] know uh or as you may or may not be
[1:15:54] aware Proctor Ceder runs both a heating
[1:15:57] and cooling plant and a future
[1:15:59] electricity generation Coen plant at the
[1:16:02] facility adjacent to Proctors um the
[1:16:05] heating and cooling lines are currently
[1:16:07] in the roadway uh they are between the
[1:16:09] buildings uh this would be an easement
[1:16:12] that would encapsulate those existing
[1:16:14] lines as well as encumber new lines to
[1:16:17] um be for the power between the two
[1:16:20] facilities Phil I didn't know if you
[1:16:21] wanted to talk any at the project if you
[1:16:23] were comfortable with me covering it I
[1:16:26] have a few of these These are quite old
[1:16:28] but they're the best I have to
[1:16:30] share okay I thought he might it is
[1:16:34] very interesting because yes we have a
[1:16:38] thermal lines running across the street
[1:16:40] to Center City as well as to the H in
[1:16:43] and the Parker in um and we are now
[1:16:47] adding electric to it the electric is
[1:16:50] cogenerated meaning that all all the
[1:16:53] waste heat on the engine that will make
[1:16:55] electricity will be used to support the
[1:16:58] heating and cooling system so we'll be
[1:17:00] in the neighborhood of 85 to 95%
[1:17:03] efficient most of the grids about 45%
[1:17:06] efficient so it's a huge reduction in
[1:17:10] carbon output for the neighborhood and
[1:17:12] for connec and at the same time means
[1:17:15] that the Y and the City Center
[1:17:17] properties and the CVS and Proctors are
[1:17:22] available has Emergency Shelters could
[1:17:25] there be a flood a storm something that
[1:17:28] requires the grid to be down forces the
[1:17:30] grid to be down will be able to operate
[1:17:33] independently um there's only one other
[1:17:35] one like this in New York state so it's
[1:17:39] pretty remarkable that it can happen it
[1:17:41] was delayed during Co quite a bit so
[1:17:45] what you're looking at is a very old set
[1:17:47] of working documents but it came back
[1:17:50] after Co and now we're looking at it
[1:17:52] being oper AAL by March of
[1:17:56] 25 so this is an extension beyond what
[1:17:58] you had in Co during Co um we've always
[1:18:03] had the hot and cold water 18 years
[1:18:04] we've been running hot and cold water
[1:18:06] underground uh this is adding
[1:18:08] electricity to that and putting a line
[1:18:11] right next to the existing thermal hot
[1:18:14] cold water lines um it's making it a
[1:18:16] bigger footprint but also extending the
[1:18:19] easement to be one is one one easement
[1:18:21] rather than two or three
[1:18:23] oh
[1:18:26] okay any other
[1:18:29] questions yes Miss Patrick no I was
[1:18:31] going to
[1:18:33] make well I was going to just say
[1:18:35] something moving it but I have to say
[1:18:37] because for 18 years I thought this was
[1:18:38] an incredibly Visionary project that
[1:18:41] occurred um so I compliment you on
[1:18:43] expanding it now and um thank you for doing it all these years so I will
[1:18:49] make the motion before you do that sorry
[1:18:52] you got me start sorry no I I just I I
[1:18:55] want to highlight especially uh I I
[1:18:57] think in my own experience incity when
[1:18:59] we were going through the pandemic
[1:19:01] Proctors um like a lot of places you
[1:19:04] know kind of had to had to close their
[1:19:06] normal operational doors but acted as um
[1:19:09] a community help for young people in
[1:19:10] need of some inperson instruction and I
[1:19:13] think that so that just kind of speaks
[1:19:14] to kind of the the the spirit of what
[1:19:16] we're trying to do here in case of that
[1:19:18] so I was a Valu partner and I appreciate
[1:19:21] that and I do is well so now okay
[1:19:25] now in second all those in favor thank
[1:19:28] you thank you Mr wall thank you thank
[1:19:30] you Mr Morris uh next item is uh to V
[1:19:34] contract uh for the city of connected
[1:19:36] tennis sport improvements if so as
[1:19:39] you're aware the city of SKC houses a
[1:19:42] large Tennis complex in Central Park
[1:19:44] home the 17 courts the facility is used
[1:19:47] uh as the USDA Regional hub for their
[1:19:50] summer tournament schedule the condition
[1:19:53] of the courts however will not allow us
[1:19:55] to hold the USA events uh I've been
[1:19:57] working with the USA in 15 love for
[1:19:59] about a year now on putting together
[1:20:01] this program that we have here of
[1:20:03] improvements uh we actually had an
[1:20:05] engineer come up from the USA out of
[1:20:07] Long Island Flushing Meadows do an
[1:20:09] evaluation we had cha sports do a second
[1:20:11] evaluation um and what we're looking to
[1:20:13] do is put this work out which is the
[1:20:17] preservation of the lower 10 courts and
[1:20:20] the what we would call the refurbishment
[1:20:23] of the upper Seven Courts um so
[1:20:27] preservation is we essentially going to
[1:20:28] coat seal uh and paint the upper ones
[1:20:32] will be milled uh fabric paved then
[1:20:35] coated sealed in paint so uh at the
[1:20:38] conclusion of that we will have 17
[1:20:40] functioning courts um one of the things
[1:20:43] I just want to point out which is we
[1:20:44] have an expedited schedule we're trying
[1:20:46] to get this work completed by June in
[1:20:49] order to meet the USA schedule uh the
[1:20:52] contractor Carver construction who was
[1:20:53] the loan bidder they were the um loan
[1:20:56] bidder and successful completer of our
[1:20:59] pickle ball complex and uh Fair viiew
[1:21:02] tennis courts in the bellw neighborhood
[1:21:04] which came out uh great um so we have H
[1:21:07] confidence in the group The other thing
[1:21:09] is that the amount here that we're
[1:21:11] showing 671 is above the budgeted amount
[1:21:15] um I am working with the USA on an
[1:21:17] agreement uh and the agreement is a
[1:21:20] partnership where they will hopefully if
[1:21:22] we can come to terms be able to cover
[1:21:24] this cost to do a more of a a
[1:21:27] cooperation uh in terms of uh it would
[1:21:30] tie the investment of the courts that
[1:21:32] they make to the term of the lease um we
[1:21:35] just got it because they went through it
[1:21:37] and our lot of partment reviewing it now
[1:21:40] spoke with the mayor a little bit about
[1:21:41] it uh uh our director of parks with Dean
[1:21:44] and we're just working through the
[1:21:45] details but we really want to get this
[1:21:48] work awarded if we have to change it we
[1:21:50] can but the agreement should be coming
[1:21:53] next cycle because that's what we're
[1:21:55] setting up
[1:21:56] for any yes M Patrick so am I hearing
[1:21:59] you that you're because I was going to
[1:22:01] ask if we could as I always do whether
[1:22:04] we could bring in more revenue from uh
[1:22:07] the
[1:22:08] USA uh in terms of using the courts um
[1:22:12] but so what are you actually saying that
[1:22:14] they're willing or you're going to be
[1:22:15] talking to them about paying us the
[1:22:17] $671,000 is that what I the balance
[1:22:21] there's a balance we have we allocated a
[1:22:24] half a million uh and we have4 475,000
[1:22:28] remaining that balance uh they have they
[1:22:31] have already received approval from USA
[1:22:34] Regional uh however we just want to make
[1:22:36] sure we're all so I don't want to get
[1:22:38] into it too much in detail but we're
[1:22:40] confident that we'll be able to come to
[1:22:41] an agreement to to make this project
[1:22:43] happen if not
[1:22:48] more yeah all right any other we're just
[1:22:51] confident we can get it done by June too
[1:22:53] that's pretty L it is it is uh but
[1:22:56] that's what we're going to and I I think having the usda's backing I mean
[1:23:00] the big thing is Carver will be able to
[1:23:02] get the paving done the issue is it is
[1:23:04] uh you know once you pave it has to sit
[1:23:06] for 3 weeks so we have to hurry up and
[1:23:08] wait so we're going to have to hurry up
[1:23:10] get in there and pave and wait for all
[1:23:12] the oils to dissipate because we cannot
[1:23:14] coat fresh asphalt cuz it will get a
[1:23:16] little slick and and gooey so we're
[1:23:19] going to try to get in there Paving
[1:23:20] usually starts sometime in April so
[1:23:22] we're going to try to get in there right
[1:23:24] when we can to do the work good job yes
[1:23:26] Mr Williams so um I I think it's never a
[1:23:29] safe assumption to think that everyone
[1:23:31] has access to the internet so while this
[1:23:33] construction is going to be going on I
[1:23:34] believe that's ideal tennis playing time
[1:23:36] I don't play tennis is there any way I
[1:23:37] think it's probably better better
[1:23:39] question position for the uh Parks uh
[1:23:42] director but putting out like just
[1:23:44] flyers or notifications just informing
[1:23:46] the local neighborhood uh residents that
[1:23:48] utilize these parks of other options
[1:23:50] throughout the city yeah I can work with
[1:23:53] uh Willie on that thank you any other
[1:23:56] questions or comments
[1:23:58] no second all in favor thank you the
[1:24:02] next item on the agenda is the award be
[1:24:04] the contract for the construction of
[1:24:05] teaching greenhouse building for the
[1:24:07] Central Park Greenhouse facility y so
[1:24:12] the friends of the greenhouse have been
[1:24:13] very successful uh in receiving funding
[1:24:16] from various sources uh this particular
[1:24:19] Grant was received from Phil st's office
[1:24:21] it is a Sam Grant in the amount of
[1:24:24] $125,000 um the use of the Sam Grant is
[1:24:27] to take down an existing dilapidated
[1:24:30] greenhouse and to construct what they're
[1:24:31] calling a teaching Greenhouse teaching
[1:24:33] Greenhouse will be able to hold classes
[1:24:36] um and be used as morval Educational
[1:24:39] Center um they're looking at this to be
[1:24:41] one of the focal points in the facility
[1:24:43] we put out this bid in cooperation with
[1:24:45] them we received three bids the low bid
[1:24:47] was ma shaer construction ma shaer
[1:24:50] construction has um been the successful
[1:24:53] will bidder on two previous projects at
[1:24:55] the greenhouse their composting toilet
[1:24:57] and their storage shed as well as they
[1:25:00] also constructed our Golf Course
[1:25:02] Maintenance building and our fire
[1:25:04] Services uh emergency facility um so
[1:25:06] we've done five previous projects with
[1:25:08] them and have no issues uh with their
[1:25:11] construction to date um they have a good
[1:25:13] relationship with the friends of the
[1:25:14] greenhouse and everyone's excited to
[1:25:16] move forward with the project there is a
[1:25:18] budget discrepancy however I'm planning
[1:25:21] on covering it with allocated funds from
[1:25:23] our facility improvements um it is a
[1:25:25] city facility so I I don't think that is outside of anything given that
[1:25:30] the FR of the greenhouse essentially
[1:25:31] operates a city facility so um that that
[1:25:35] difference uh is what I'm going to make
[1:25:36] up with our how much is that um well
[1:25:39] it's the amount uh 1788 minus 125 so
[1:25:43] it's roughly 53,000 okay what's the
[1:25:46] timeline on this this um this is going
[1:25:49] to be in the spring yeah no this is
[1:25:51] something that we're going to move on
[1:25:52] quickly our city uh just to be clear we
[1:25:55] do we're doing the demolition we're
[1:25:57] doing the grading we're doing the
[1:25:59] plumbing we're doing the electrical so
[1:26:01] there is a savings um this is
[1:26:03] specifically for the concrete and the
[1:26:05] construction of the prefabricated
[1:26:08] Greenhouse any other questions
[1:26:11] comments all those in
[1:26:16] favor okay uh and number four it's uh
[1:26:19] authorize issuance of a re revocable per
[1:26:22] I can say that number 679 to the horse's
[1:26:25] Lounge so the horse's Lounge has been
[1:26:28] purchased and will be operated by uh the
[1:26:30] gentleman who I believe opens broken in Nuna uh they were looking to put the
[1:26:37] essentially the facility back the way it
[1:26:38] is and operated similarly to how it was
[1:26:41] which includes um keeping the sign or
[1:26:43] putting up a new similar sign the sign
[1:26:45] is 12 in into the right of way but
[1:26:49] because of that we still require a vable
[1:26:51] permit okay okay
[1:26:54] questions second all in
[1:26:57] favor thank you Mr W thank you
[1:26:59] appreciate it all right the next item on
[1:27:01] the agenda is uh mohul Harbor mayor
[1:27:04] McCarthy thank you uh mam president and
[1:27:07] a presentation prior cycle from metlex
[1:27:12] the blessie corporation uh colleg is
[1:27:16] here and uh this point looking for your
[1:27:19] formal approval of $2.5 million to allow
[1:27:23] that uh Event Center project to move
[1:27:27] forward
[1:27:32] discussion so I always have a lot of
[1:27:34] questions and I've had more so um and
[1:27:37] I've had um so some of these discussions
[1:27:40] with um Mr he's gone now Mr y
[1:27:45] so and and this is probably for him um I
[1:27:49] understand what the ask is um but my
[1:27:51] question at that time was what was the
[1:27:53] pilot going to be so that to me the
[1:27:55] payment and L of taxes to me is very
[1:27:57] important to this because it becomes
[1:28:00] more than 2.5 million it becomes
[1:28:02] whatever the pilot is so I would like to um to know what that
[1:28:11] is at the presentation I think sorry at
[1:28:14] the presentation I think it was a
[1:28:16] community center was it
[1:28:18] um as project I don't take the pilot of
[1:28:22] the trct for a community Cent non
[1:28:24] for-profit Mr this is not going to be a
[1:28:26] nonprofit this is a privately owned um
[1:28:28] organ not for-profit there wouldn't be a
[1:28:30] pilot be any revenue from it to begin
[1:28:32] right it's not a not for profit it's not
[1:28:35] it's a privately owned project I don't
[1:28:38] know did you want to speak to that you
[1:28:40] want me to speak to it I will I don't
[1:28:42] know the protocol oh yes if you I'm I
[1:28:45] was specifically asking about the pilot
[1:28:46] so would you uh yeah there will be a
[1:28:48] pilot typically these projects are sorry
[1:28:52] this is public the public hears s throat
[1:28:55] I'm sorry uh typically these projects
[1:28:58] are owned by counties cities metroplexes
[1:29:02] or authorities so this would be uh
[1:29:04] actually something similar so there
[1:29:05] would be pilot there would be nominal
[1:29:08] taxes generated the best for this on
[1:29:10] this project uh typically again like MVP
[1:29:15] center it's on by the county uh it's a
[1:29:17] non- taxable event this is one of the
[1:29:19] few that's owned Glenn Falls is owned by
[1:29:21] the city this is one of the few that
[1:29:22] would be because nobody else wanted to
[1:29:24] own it uh but along those lines uh this
[1:29:27] is a community service for us so there
[1:29:30] would be there would be a pilot uh the the benefits would be as well as uh
[1:29:36] the benefits of keeping Union College in
[1:29:37] place we've gone through this before I
[1:29:39] don't want to reiterate uh having a lot
[1:29:41] of U ability to host other events
[1:29:43] whether it's High School uh kids
[1:29:46] programs uh bring other uh smaller
[1:29:48] events to the community as well as
[1:29:50] actually bring people into into the
[1:29:52] harbor bring people into the casino
[1:29:54] which I know the casino is uh pays $2.6
[1:29:57] million a year to the county the city
[1:30:00] the more money that they could pay on
[1:30:02] their revenue the more taxes both the
[1:30:04] city and the county would get as well as
[1:30:06] bed tax sales tax Etc so that's the community benefit uh but
[1:30:11] these typically are not and in a perfect
[1:30:13] world we wouldn't own it either if Union
[1:30:15] College own it it would be uh non-
[1:30:18] taxable if the county owned it it would
[1:30:19] be non- taxable Metroplex owned it would
[1:30:23] uh we just put all this together
[1:30:25] hopefully with the with the state with
[1:30:27] the assembly with the county with
[1:30:29] Metroplex and hopefully the city that we
[1:30:31] could all collaborate and create
[1:30:32] something on a vacant piece of land
[1:30:34] right
[1:30:36] now so we don't know what the pilot
[1:30:38] would be at this
[1:30:39] moment uh the pilot would be nominal at
[1:30:42] best it would it would not be a
[1:30:43] significant amount of taxes at all so
[1:30:45] you so the project would not pay uh it
[1:30:48] would not pay other than some nominal
[1:30:50] fees but not not property taxes okay all
[1:30:53] right yes so I just simp so this project
[1:30:57] um um I know that before we had
[1:30:59] allocated uh 2.5 million to what was
[1:31:02] going to be the Aquatic Center um the
[1:31:04] reason why um I I speak for myself
[1:31:07] reason why it was really important to
[1:31:09] support that is because not only will
[1:31:11] they bring people to into the city
[1:31:13] obviously generate business but there's
[1:31:15] was really um an array of of of of you
[1:31:19] know youth programs and services that
[1:31:20] can be housed um out of that and I think
[1:31:23] that this project right here um has far
[1:31:27] greater capacity to reach our our
[1:31:30] community and especially as it relates
[1:31:32] to like Youth Sports programs and more
[1:31:35] um even in in the way of arts and
[1:31:37] entertainment um so I just kind of
[1:31:38] wanted to to kind of amplify that piece
[1:31:40] because that that's something that is
[1:31:41] really important I don't want to get
[1:31:43] lost in the conversation and one point
[1:31:46] of clarity to the Aquatic Center would
[1:31:47] have been uh have a pilot as well so
[1:31:50] they wouldn't have been a tax pay
[1:31:56] don't let that fall so um the other
[1:31:59] point I don't we the last time that we
[1:32:02] okay with this information we have in
[1:32:04] front of us here says that it's for um
[1:32:07] site prep is that
[1:32:10] correct I'm sorry I didn't hear recy
[1:32:13] reparation yes okay um in the document
[1:32:16] that we got from esdc the it said the
[1:32:19] cost for site trap was 1.5 mil almost
[1:32:23] 1.6 as opposed to but this ask is
[1:32:29] 2.5 good news and bad
[1:32:32] news the bad news is the site prep is
[1:32:35] significantly more than $3 million
[1:32:38] actually we got a uh actually a lot more
[1:32:40] than $4 million this will go towards a
[1:32:42] portion of it uh we just got to change
[1:32:44] our loan for pilings that are you got to
[1:32:47] change what change order for pilings we
[1:32:49] have to put piles in the ground as well
[1:32:52] as do additional uh Paving and and
[1:32:54] parking lots Etc the piles alone are
[1:32:56] north of $2.1 million that we're all not
[1:33:00] planning a gift that keeps on
[1:33:05] taking all right um
[1:33:08] so let's
[1:33:10] see right now has this project oh maybe
[1:33:13] did you stay
[1:33:15] here I I don't say I do have a little
[1:33:18] com from you all right um so
[1:33:22] has this work already begun because I I
[1:33:23] see there is some work that's started
[1:33:24] down there I just have to you know I
[1:33:25] drive by from time to time there's no
[1:33:27] work started no work started yet no okay
[1:33:29] so are you waiting for is all the
[1:33:31] funding in place uh depends on what you
[1:33:34] guys do tonight so all the other funding
[1:33:36] is 100% in place uh there is uh a uh a
[1:33:41] resolution needed at the county but they
[1:33:43] they're committed to to work with us on
[1:33:46] that so that's it would be the same
[1:33:48] timing as as you people uh but that
[1:33:51] would that would be be the last this
[1:33:52] would be the cherry on the cake for the
[1:33:54] Sunday would would this put us in a
[1:33:56] position to maybe recruit like a um
[1:34:00] semipro basketball team arena football
[1:34:03] or you know looking at the the answer is
[1:34:06] yes and no Arena Football were too small
[1:34:09] it is okay uh but uh and and I can't say
[1:34:12] because I've got a confidentiality but
[1:34:14] we've been approached by um a couple
[1:34:18] professional sports teams and going
[1:34:20] right across the board because there's
[1:34:21] also uh Rochester Syracuse UA they have
[1:34:25] soccer they have the crosses down and we don't want to compete with the
[1:34:29] MVP Center uh but we've had a variety of
[1:34:33] people reach out there's there's the
[1:34:36] answer is yes to the qu with the
[1:34:37] exception Arena Football we Arena
[1:34:39] Football they draw 10,000 people there
[1:34:42] this this is one that wouldn't be able
[1:34:43] to do that but the other is I just
[1:34:46] noticed Binghamton got for instance the
[1:34:48] uh New York State basketball
[1:34:49] championship since the two year bid I
[1:34:52] mean that's something that took from
[1:34:53] Glenn's Falls this would be an ideal
[1:34:55] situation it's centrally located it's
[1:34:56] got more hotel rooms so I think we can
[1:34:59] compete particularly on New York State
[1:35:02] whether it's volleyball whether it's
[1:35:03] gymnastics whether it's basketball
[1:35:06] whether it's hockey uh but the other
[1:35:08] thing too is we really want to make this is a this is a community this is
[1:35:12] something really we're doing this for
[1:35:14] the community as much as uh it's it's a
[1:35:17] for-profit we don't want to own this but
[1:35:20] it's the only way is going to get done
[1:35:23] like yeah some of the uses for the
[1:35:25] community like job fairs running job
[1:35:28] fairs there you you can expand right now
[1:35:31] the the the Event Center at the casino
[1:35:33] is very limited in terms of uh getting
[1:35:35] but I think and we we've had variety of
[1:35:37] meetings with uh discovers connec too I
[1:35:40] mean we're New York State a lot of
[1:35:43] conventions um have to stay in New York
[1:35:46] state a lot of them go to turningstone
[1:35:49] or to Rochester or Syracuse got the
[1:35:51] Turning Stone draws a huge amount I I
[1:35:54] drove by there last time they had a
[1:35:56] fireman's convention this is going to
[1:35:58] bring a lot of spending here and we can
[1:36:00] compete we're not going to compete with
[1:36:02] the capital Center that's that's what 20
[1:36:05] 30,000 square ft but we're going to be
[1:36:07] able to compete and bring people here
[1:36:09] Todd if it happens is so excited about
[1:36:13] uh being able to recruit we're going to
[1:36:16] be able to compete with the Saratoga
[1:36:17] we're going to be able to compete I mean
[1:36:19] this is the Glenn Falls this is a little
[1:36:21] data they a nice Community up there but
[1:36:23] I think we can we can bring in a lot of
[1:36:25] things this is so centrally located on
[1:36:26] the throughway so it's really but it's
[1:36:29] sports but it's also events that we can
[1:36:32] do trade shows uh conferences um we've
[1:36:35] had um I mean we had the uh national uh
[1:36:39] Canal conference a few years ago we
[1:36:42] didn't have enough room so those are
[1:36:45] things we can go after you can go after
[1:36:47] a lot of this the uh the trade unions we
[1:36:50] they can have their annual meeting here
[1:36:51] they they have them over at turning
[1:36:52] stone what is turning stone got they got
[1:36:54] golf courses but we've got a city uh
[1:36:57] we've got an airport here I'm originally
[1:36:59] from Roman New York there's nothing out
[1:37:01] there in Verona other than a beautiful
[1:37:03] big casino that doesn't pay
[1:37:07] taxes so I I I really I me out of all
[1:37:10] the things we've done and we've done a
[1:37:13] billion dollars worth of business in SKC
[1:37:17] County we just celebrated our 55th
[1:37:19] anniversary July Janu AR 30th in the
[1:37:22] capital region and we put our money
[1:37:24] where our mouth is and one thing the
[1:37:26] project this is a tough project it's a state it's the county it's
[1:37:30] Metroplex it's the assembly uh the
[1:37:34] governor Carl Hasty every everybody this
[1:37:36] is a need here we don't have it so uh I
[1:37:40] really I we've I'm a sked resident I
[1:37:44] live here I work here I play here the
[1:37:46] fact is that I think this is a missing
[1:37:48] component it's a vacant piece of
[1:37:49] property you've got I mean as I said
[1:37:52] before you could build Apartments there
[1:37:54] our apartments are full but I think this
[1:37:56] benefits the community more you've got
[1:37:58] the the dock that we work with the city
[1:38:00] and the Department of State on so you're
[1:38:02] going to get other other people coming
[1:38:04] on on the on the Harbor uh there's going
[1:38:06] to be boat rentals this year out there
[1:38:08] every year we add something and and and
[1:38:11] tying it into the bike trail and now
[1:38:12] you've got the loop that's going around
[1:38:14] the Metroplex is doing with Glenville
[1:38:17] boy when you look at our City compared
[1:38:20] to some of the others I'm not going to
[1:38:22] pick out them cuz it's public uh but the
[1:38:25] fact is that they asked they ask us to
[1:38:28] come in and talk to them about creating
[1:38:31] stuff in other cities in the capital
[1:38:33] region we connected born Brad here I
[1:38:36] wasn't born I was born in Rome but I've
[1:38:38] been here since 71 one other this is out
[1:38:41] there in left field but in the event
[1:38:44] there was some catastrophic event not
[1:38:46] wouldn't be a flood but ice storm or
[1:38:48] some others that we could maybe have
[1:38:50] here Center in part of our emergency
[1:38:53] planning where setting up bringing folks
[1:38:56] that well I think it's a great idea as
[1:38:58] long as you don't scrw up Union hockey
[1:38:59] games
[1:39:01] yeah but but no you know what think
[1:39:04] about it we were actually we talked to
[1:39:05] Philip about uh using Center City as why
[1:39:09] they are this is let's say you had a
[1:39:11] catastrophe and you could end up with or
[1:39:13] if you needed to to hand out supplies or
[1:39:16] emergency that type of stuff boy look at that we don't have that here not
[1:39:21] going to do in the Proctor is there
[1:39:22] seats there uh but those type of things
[1:39:25] I mean you know the sky's the liit in
[1:39:27] terms of some of the things you can
[1:39:28] really imine that we're just scraping
[1:39:30] the tip of the iceberg along those lines
[1:39:32] but this this connects this connects the
[1:39:34] public it connects the union it connects
[1:39:36] to the high schools it this is going to
[1:39:38] make something it's connected to your
[1:39:40] destination and if the Aquatic Center
[1:39:43] happens in uh in reram which I hope it
[1:39:45] does boy that's even more and it's going
[1:39:47] to they're going to play off each
[1:39:50] other
[1:39:52] Patrick I wouldn't want to see us miss
[1:39:54] this opportunity I think that we've
[1:39:56] spent you know the past what is it 15 or
[1:39:59] 20 years I guess um really making sure
[1:40:02] that we have built up our restaurants
[1:40:04] we've built up our hotels um this is
[1:40:07] just going to be another remarkable um
[1:40:10] asset that we will have to be able to
[1:40:12] sell our city to conferences to
[1:40:14] conventions the idea which we talked
[1:40:17] about at the last meeting in terms of
[1:40:19] the Youth Sports um um and the
[1:40:21] opportunity for um our our children to
[1:40:25] have this opportunity as well um I just
[1:40:28] not to mention the parking will be
[1:40:29] better than when we come to a union
[1:40:31] hockey game I'm just teasing there but I
[1:40:34] think that um if we were to say no to
[1:40:36] this if the city was if the city council
[1:40:38] was to say no we're not going to you
[1:40:40] know put funding through to to this
[1:40:42] through to this I I just think it would
[1:40:44] be um you know as if we had said no to
[1:40:47] the casino I mean I just think that
[1:40:49] we've been building building and
[1:40:51] building up our city and the
[1:40:53] opportunities for tourism um and
[1:40:55] attracting people here and I fully
[1:40:58] support the project and US funding it I
[1:41:00] really do think there's the payback is
[1:41:02] there though this is going to in terms
[1:41:04] of sales tax occupancy tax sure uh
[1:41:08] employment and it's going to just create
[1:41:10] the opportunity of again because we got
[1:41:13] to remember too the casino competes with
[1:41:16] Springfield there's going to be casinos
[1:41:17] in New York City we've got to make sure
[1:41:20] that we have this Revenue stream I mean
[1:41:22] we're getting $22.6 million a year which
[1:41:24] is a very nice Revenue stream in
[1:41:26] addition to $4 million in property taxes
[1:41:28] from the casino alone the gesi group
[1:41:31] entities including the casino pay over
[1:41:33] $20 million uh in city county and school
[1:41:36] taxes so we're putting our money where
[1:41:38] our mouth is but this is why as as a
[1:41:41] resident and somebody that's been in
[1:41:42] this Council before it was uh we've been
[1:41:46] there a long time but the fact is I I
[1:41:49] get goosebumps when I I walk through the
[1:41:51] casino and see the amount of employees
[1:41:55] and the lives we've
[1:41:56] changed it's big I mean in and and the
[1:41:59] casino raised their all union wages
[1:42:01] their wages went up over 40% over the
[1:42:04] last 3 years so you got people that
[1:42:06] don't leave there because they're never
[1:42:08] going to get their life their health
[1:42:10] insurance everything is good and and we
[1:42:12] do have I I I think we're a significant
[1:42:15] amount of connected residents and
[1:42:17] definitely I think we're close to 40% in
[1:42:19] not wnb either which is which is
[1:42:21] fantastic and it's really these people
[1:42:23] we've got day wers uh next next week is
[1:42:27] our 7th anniversary so lucky Lucky Seven
[1:42:31] but uh again if I didn't think it was
[1:42:33] that important I wouldn't have spend
[1:42:35] this much time this is something that
[1:42:37] originated uh Dr Harris know
[1:42:40] preco uh and it this this wasn't my idea
[1:42:44] I don't know if it was Dr Harris's idea
[1:42:47] it was it was somebody saying we got to
[1:42:49] find a solution for you and I was around
[1:42:51] in 1977 76 when the killes rink was
[1:42:55] built and parking look at what we're
[1:42:58] doing the we solve another problem with
[1:42:59] the neighborhoods I mean parking along
[1:43:02] you it is a crazy thing to have to go
[1:43:04] park and watch a hockey game it is I
[1:43:06] don't it it served its purpose then but
[1:43:09] you probably could never get that
[1:43:10] project approve on campus again because
[1:43:12] we don't have enough parking and God
[1:43:14] forbid we don't have a
[1:43:15] snowstorm so sorry to take up so much of
[1:43:17] your time no absolutely not um I wanted
[1:43:20] to just highlight your choice of words
[1:43:22] where you said a missing component and I
[1:43:23] think that was very intentional and I
[1:43:24] think accurately reflects the nature of
[1:43:27] this project uh definitely adding this
[1:43:29] type of resource uh to our community I
[1:43:31] think just bolsters uh the electric city
[1:43:34] um Mantra that is continuing to to exist
[1:43:37] a day in and day out um definitely with
[1:43:40] respect to that and try to be careful
[1:43:42] with touching on to like the school
[1:43:43] board and board of educations because we stay separate for a reason but there
[1:43:47] conversations of how do we or what our
[1:43:49] next superintendent looks like and and
[1:43:50] there were comments in the paper that
[1:43:52] highlighted that SKC City school
[1:43:53] districts are seen as uh catapults or or
[1:43:56] leaping PS and I don't think we need to
[1:43:58] I think our city is good enough and we
[1:44:00] do an excellent job with with what we
[1:44:02] offer to our community and I would love
[1:44:04] to think uh magnifying Miss Patrick's uh
[1:44:07] comments uh this is truly something that
[1:44:09] can last Generations it is and combining
[1:44:13] the the school district excuse me with
[1:44:16] Community College with what Union's done
[1:44:19] and their Outreach long before you were
[1:44:22] here Union was an island and you've done
[1:44:24] a great job Dr Harris in terms of
[1:44:26] integrating Union College and your
[1:44:28] students uh in our community and whether
[1:44:31] it's even doing the learn Escape program
[1:44:33] or the field hockey things I mean that's what we have to doing we can keep
[1:44:36] these alumni in town too it's important
[1:44:40] but I think it's right we this is a
[1:44:42] facility that we can really work with uh
[1:44:44] the school district if they want to do
[1:44:46] things you connected to Community
[1:44:48] College if they need a graduation place
[1:44:50] yeah uh I mean take a look at sky the
[1:44:53] limit we're going to look for for
[1:44:55] members of the community on how to make
[1:44:57] this work we got to pay for itself but
[1:44:59] we're looking for people and ideas and
[1:45:01] Joe some of yours were good ideas as
[1:45:03] well Mr M yeah I just want to EO to add
[1:45:07] to Mr party talking about economic
[1:45:10] impact gener and going back to the
[1:45:13] casino um the only remaining city
[1:45:15] council member who voted for the casino
[1:45:17] and still here and at that time we talk
[1:45:19] about the EC impact the casino is going
[1:45:22] to bring to the city and over the year
[1:45:24] we have we have seen that and we
[1:45:25] continue to see the impact that the
[1:45:27] casino project brought to the
[1:45:30] city uh the business that follows that
[1:45:34] you know trickle down to into the
[1:45:35] neighborhood into the other part of the
[1:45:37] city and I think another project like
[1:45:40] this here will also trigger that same
[1:45:42] sort of um you know outcome so listen to
[1:45:46] all the comments things that um you know
[1:45:49] it's something that's
[1:45:51] we I would definitely support we move
[1:45:55] forward with u funding this um project
[1:45:58] because looking at the outcome from the
[1:46:00] casino look at what happened and look
[1:46:02] what continue to happening into the city
[1:46:04] because of the casino and the other
[1:46:06] projects and with this project this even
[1:46:08] center with a capacity of 3,500 seaing
[1:46:12] we're talking about the impact of hotels
[1:46:14] restaurant and all these other stuff
[1:46:17] that is going to trickle behind that
[1:46:19] when the center is they to accommodate
[1:46:21] all these emails I appreciate the kind
[1:46:24] words I'm s of losing my voice okay um
[1:46:27] so you talk a lot about oh you talk a
[1:46:30] lot about there's more oh you need water
[1:46:32] you talked a lot about um the benefits
[1:46:35] to the community so is there an
[1:46:36] opportunity for a written Community
[1:46:38] benefits agreement to make sure that um
[1:46:40] those things are in place of course
[1:46:44] so I that I for one think that's very
[1:46:48] important um I think we've got to be
[1:46:51] uh I you have I don't mean the agreement
[1:46:53] with the Union that's different no we
[1:46:54] got to be cognant of the use of Union
[1:46:56] and that's their teams and their players
[1:46:59] um practices Etc but no this is this is
[1:47:01] a Comm the community is investing in
[1:47:04] this St yeah governor hok and Carl H
[1:47:07] investing in it I hope you guys invest
[1:47:09] in it Angelo Santa bber is investing in
[1:47:11] it I mean the governor wants to would
[1:47:14] she told me that I'd love to come out
[1:47:16] and and have a groundbreaking with us I
[1:47:17] mean think about it they loves
[1:47:19] connecting we we are a poster child if
[1:47:22] you read this the the the the budget or
[1:47:25] the State of the State she talked about
[1:47:27] skty as a model on how to develop in the
[1:47:30] inner city we got to be proud of that I
[1:47:35] am so um I know I'm not the only one
[1:47:38] that talks about Community benefits
[1:47:40] agreement so does anyone have anything
[1:47:41] that they want to talk about what that
[1:47:43] would need to look like because well
[1:47:45] just because I think that we need and
[1:47:46] nobody's trying to step on the toes of
[1:47:47] Union just so you know um but but while
[1:47:50] we're talking about Union and not again
[1:47:52] to put you on the spot
[1:47:54] um you you talked about a pilot so would
[1:47:57] with Union also and I guess I should
[1:47:59] look at you when I say this would there
[1:48:00] also be getting a will be be getting a
[1:48:02] pilot from Union that we're not we don't
[1:48:05] currently no Union is not this has
[1:48:07] nothing to do with a pilot for Union
[1:48:10] okay
[1:48:13] so it's not owned by if Union owned it
[1:48:16] they would need a pilot
[1:48:18] anyway no well I'm just if there was
[1:48:20] like some pilot coming I can ask that
[1:48:23] absolutely good questions uh but the
[1:48:26] benefit of putting their students and
[1:48:29] fans outside the campus I me we can go
[1:48:33] down the checklist and there's I I I I
[1:48:37] don't know if I can come up with
[1:48:39] something bad about this project there's
[1:48:42] a lot of projects that that that are bad
[1:48:44] I can't find one in all honesty and I've
[1:48:45] been developing since 1981 it's
[1:48:49] connecting
[1:48:52] which one Mr Toro did you have a hand up
[1:48:54] as well yeah I Mr Toro thank you I'd
[1:48:57] just like to thank uh Mr buo for your
[1:49:00] investment here in the city for the many
[1:49:03] projects that you undertake
[1:49:05] um by putting some are better than
[1:49:10] others uh the revenue uh that we have
[1:49:14] from the casino and hopefully revenue
[1:49:16] from The Event Center will just continue
[1:49:18] to always make us grow and look better
[1:49:20] so I thank you for your efforts and your
[1:49:23] dedication and your Devotion to our city
[1:49:26] I appreciate it but the revenue comes
[1:49:27] from the hotels it comes to the office
[1:49:29] buildings it comes from the apartments
[1:49:31] and we we've got I mean probably about
[1:49:33] 400 people they're all sked residents
[1:49:35] now they work for you they live in the
[1:49:38] apartment oh they live in the apartment
[1:49:39] well of course they are they but think
[1:49:41] about it look at look those are all new
[1:49:43] people condo I I love we brought in a
[1:49:47] lot of new people uh a lot of people
[1:49:49] from the National Guard live there and
[1:49:51] you know it's nice to see them walking
[1:49:53] around with their with their uniforms
[1:49:55] and their they have three dominations
[1:49:57] each anyway sorry about that Mr you
[1:50:00] mentioned about Community agreement what
[1:50:02] are you looking forward in terms of um
[1:50:04] have this in the resolution or have them
[1:50:06] I
[1:50:09] agreement I think that it has to be
[1:50:11] separate in apart than the resolution
[1:50:13] yes Mr you
[1:50:15] a go ahead and we do we add that into
[1:50:19] the resolution that the funding is
[1:50:21] contingent
[1:50:22] upon or make that part of your Grant I
[1:50:25] mean that
[1:50:27] right I agree contract for the money
[1:50:30] contract resolution tends to be more
[1:50:33] generic the contract thank you and we we
[1:50:36] can have clawbacks if we don't live up
[1:50:37] to it too which is great oh we'll put
[1:50:39] that in there
[1:50:40] too I should open I shouldn't open my
[1:50:44] mouth I'm sorry goad Mr far no no no I I
[1:50:48] think that you know what the point I was
[1:50:50] going to raise is kind of an answer I
[1:50:52] think that you know people understanding
[1:50:53] that there's various ways that such a
[1:50:55] project will um you know increase you
[1:50:58] know the quality of life for people
[1:51:00] living the city is connec he kind of
[1:51:02] having those things laid out um in in an
[1:51:05] informa of agreement um can also you
[1:51:08] know sh off uh the confidence for the
[1:51:10] people so again I appreciate your
[1:51:12] flexibility we can collaborate thing too
[1:51:14] and guess what it's some of it's going
[1:51:16] to be a little big because we don't know
[1:51:17] what we don't know yet this is nobody's
[1:51:20] one of these before I think the last one
[1:51:22] built the last one that's actually overw
[1:51:24] too and it was U uh the state gave him a
[1:51:27] lot of money to do that
[1:51:28] one uh but ever around here GL fall cers
[1:51:32] the last thing brother that was long
[1:51:33] time ago excuse
[1:51:35] me so um we need um this is actually a
[1:51:40] question for the council we need to talk
[1:51:41] about what those what the people looking
[1:51:44] for in terms of the community agre I
[1:51:46] mean you brought up one in terms of
[1:51:47] could we use but we need to have that
[1:51:49] language in time for um for you to put
[1:51:52] together the resolution or
[1:51:54] no the resolution would be more generic
[1:51:57] the actual contract for the allocation
[1:52:00] of money is more specific okay so I
[1:52:03] definitely say we would need that um in
[1:52:06] order to to move forward and then and Mr
[1:52:10] um so those those storms those storms
[1:52:13] will be in the contract contract yes so
[1:52:15] we could move forward tonight yeah I
[1:52:17] know I understand that and Mr buo has
[1:52:21] generously said that we can put in if it
[1:52:23] doesn't happen they'll Rec clbs he said
[1:52:24] it I
[1:52:26] didn't um you listen to it can we add
[1:52:30] the special meeting I'm sorry can we add
[1:52:33] to the special
[1:52:34] meeting oh oh
[1:52:37] so Mr um Mr Williams is asking if we
[1:52:40] could have that discussion about what
[1:52:41] we'd want to see into the special
[1:52:42] meeting about the ARA so I'm open to
[1:52:45] that but we could definitely um move
[1:52:47] this tonight but we should have that
[1:52:48] conversation about what that means to
[1:52:49] look like that the language yes yes
[1:52:52] that's MH yeah I'm fine if there so I'm
[1:52:56] willing to move this I'll second it all
[1:52:59] in favor
[1:53:01] I all right you can you can
[1:53:04] go want leave your voice is bothering
[1:53:06] you so we're done thank you all I
[1:53:09] appreciate it's
[1:53:13] exciting all right um oh one more before
[1:53:17] there so discussion on the more and the
[1:53:20] ba shops yes Toro uh yes so uh this is a
[1:53:24] followup from the moratorium I put
[1:53:26] through in that I asked for in July of
[1:53:30] 200 uh 23 so there's been actually an
[1:53:34] uptick in um shops that have opened um
[1:53:38] within the city and I get uh increase in
[1:53:42] residents concern about 2 3 4 in a
[1:53:46] neighborhood um uh so we all know that
[1:53:49] uh flavored Vates and smokes are legal
[1:53:52] in New York state and the health
[1:53:54] department is doing their job with
[1:53:56] sanitarians that are going into these uh
[1:53:59] into these Stores um and Cora market and
[1:54:03] um doing a job as far as the illegal
[1:54:05] part of it I'd like to see a moratorium
[1:54:08] imposed for 6 months so we continue so
[1:54:11] we can continue working on uh the zoning
[1:54:14] of uh where where we'd like these shops
[1:54:16] to be
[1:54:17] placed um
[1:54:20] and uh continue with uh with our codes
[1:54:24] Department to go in and uh to see uh to
[1:54:27] make sure they're all compliant um out
[1:54:30] of the many um shops that uh our code
[1:54:34] department has visited since uh July of
[1:54:37] last year um the uh smoke and vape shots
[1:54:42] have not even uh followed through with
[1:54:44] any of the compliance so most of them uh
[1:54:47] on our list are still in violation so so
[1:54:50] um I would like to uh see if we can uh
[1:54:53] impose a moratorium for 6 months can you
[1:54:56] explain again what you said about the
[1:54:57] health department I don't see that here
[1:54:58] in in this writing no it's just I've
[1:55:00] been uh doing some followup uh with the
[1:55:02] health department um to make sure that
[1:55:05] um you know because like I say flavored
[1:55:07] uh smoke and Vapes are illegal Menthol
[1:55:10] and flavored Vapes and cigarettes are
[1:55:12] illegal in New York state so I followed
[1:55:14] up with the health department and they
[1:55:16] are on their part doing uh you know uh V
[1:55:20] uh imposing fines and violations on some
[1:55:23] of these places where they find them
[1:55:25] it's $100 a day for any uh flavored Vape
[1:55:29] that they find in a in a store and it
[1:55:31] can date back as long as it can be
[1:55:33] proved with like maybe sometimes even
[1:55:36] 3040 $50,000 in fines that are imposed
[1:55:39] so um so who gets the money County it's
[1:55:44] well it's the county dep County so
[1:55:50] anyway so so needs to get in on this
[1:55:53] yeah that is being that is being done
[1:55:55] and I'd like to just see that the
[1:55:57] moratorium is imposed for uh 6 months so
[1:56:00] again we can continue working on our
[1:56:02] zoning and uh just so my question um
[1:56:07] first is do we have a list of of the
[1:56:12] um ones like you said they're doing this
[1:56:14] is there a list of the ones in concy
[1:56:16] that we have do we have that oh joh send
[1:56:18] us one we
[1:56:20] that we in various stages well we we do
[1:56:22] I I and I have to apologize because I
[1:56:24] don't know the uh I forget the uh G the
[1:56:26] head of code now um but I did yes all
[1:56:29] right no I meant the list from the state
[1:56:31] you said the state's going in do we have
[1:56:32] a list from the state of on they've done
[1:56:33] its connecting no it's it's the county
[1:56:36] is I do not have a list of the county ones because it's a whole
[1:56:40] separate deal I mean that's for them
[1:56:42] being illegal they're not illegal to
[1:56:46] open they're just not in compliance
[1:56:48] right now and I and they're in different
[1:56:50] neighborhoods where a lot of the
[1:56:52] residents are complaining so I just want
[1:56:54] to take care of that part for us okay Mr
[1:56:58] you know I was just going to Echo that
[1:56:59] Soo I did follow um the from the mayor's
[1:57:02] um office and um everybody has a copy of
[1:57:05] it in terms of where they are in terms
[1:57:06] of their um enforcement enforcement and
[1:57:10] I think um I wish it can go faster but
[1:57:14] you know things happen and I heard that
[1:57:16] there also some um in the clerk's office
[1:57:19] there's some application in there also
[1:57:21] uh do we have like a count of how much
[1:57:23] do that so um so the the let me just be
[1:57:26] clear the applications in the clerk
[1:57:28] office are for cannabis
[1:57:30] licenses and um not for smoke shops uh
[1:57:33] we if we want to find out any smoke
[1:57:35] shops are in the pipeline that would
[1:57:36] have to come from the Department of
[1:57:38] development so and speaking about the
[1:57:40] Cannabis um there was 17 the last time I
[1:57:43] looked I don't know what if that number
[1:57:44] has
[1:57:45] increased 17 appli shs in the city yes
[1:57:50] but there's you know um but they can't
[1:57:53] just open like that they have to go
[1:57:54] through a whole process to the state of
[1:57:56] New York and all of that so um and when
[1:57:59] I looked only one person actually had a
[1:58:01] license they all filled out the
[1:58:02] paperwork because they're trying to hold
[1:58:03] their place but only one person actually
[1:58:06] had their license from the state of New
[1:58:07] York and the ones that I looked at but I
[1:58:09] was trying to hold their place but keep
[1:58:11] in mind that this that with um cannabis
[1:58:14] the office of cannabis management
[1:58:15] already put in some things that can
[1:58:17] can't you can't even though you we say
[1:58:18] 17
[1:58:19] they can't be within uh I think a thous
[1:58:21] a th000 ft of each other and all that so
[1:58:24] there are 17 right now applications of
[1:58:26] people
[1:58:28] are anticipating and hoping that they
[1:58:30] can open um Cannabis shops that but this
[1:58:32] is that's different than than the smoke
[1:58:34] shops which are currently open is there
[1:58:37] a limit on the Cannabis shops that the
[1:58:39] state gave
[1:58:42] us
[1:58:45] oh that
[1:58:47] impulse myal ran ran out about an hour
[1:58:51] ago
[1:58:52] Mr is is there a a limit on the amount
[1:58:56] of cannabis shops that can open you know
[1:58:59] that's a question actually I think for
[1:59:01] the office of cansas business management
[1:59:02] I don't so let me just just really
[1:59:04] quickly up to date we've been working on
[1:59:06] zoning I don't know where it is at this
[1:59:08] point in time where they can go um you
[1:59:11] know we've had a change in Corporation
[1:59:12] Council so I'm not sure where that is
[1:59:14] right now but one of the reasons we
[1:59:15] didn't do the moratorium before is we
[1:59:17] were moving ahead with uh enforcement
[1:59:20] and we were moving ahead with putting a
[1:59:22] zoning in place so that we could control
[1:59:25] that so at this point in time um the
[1:59:28] zoning
[1:59:29] is is not done yet okay the zoning
[1:59:33] moratorium has to be in place and then
[1:59:35] the zoning will follow behind it doesn't
[1:59:37] have to be but it could be it could be
[1:59:39] but Mor but you had to put the U the
[1:59:42] moratorium so you can work on the
[1:59:44] ordinance and then present that while
[1:59:48] your if you wait if you do the zoning
[1:59:51] afterwards it becomes a non-conforming
[1:59:53] use you don't have the ability to
[1:59:55] displace the business absent some
[1:59:58] financial compensation well then the let
[2:00:01] me just add Mr I'm sorry Mr Williams had
[2:00:03] his hand and then Mr M Mr Williams yes I
[2:00:06] would say the context in which we
[2:00:08] entered I think the council electing not
[2:00:09] to proceed with the moratorium was based
[2:00:11] on relying on or allowing enforcement to
[2:00:15] um reestablish itself within the city
[2:00:16] and I think to miss porterfield's Point
[2:00:18] since there's some staffing changes that
[2:00:21] process has been disrupted so I think it
[2:00:23] is um warranted Mr Toro to bring back
[2:00:26] this this uh item of re-evaluating
[2:00:29] proceeding with the moratorium and I
[2:00:31] think that again to to your point sir it
[2:00:33] allows us the opportunity to reevaluate
[2:00:36] and allows um our Corporation Council to
[2:00:38] um get herself acclimated with our
[2:00:40] zoning um so I think we left off with
[2:00:42] corridors um but again until that
[2:00:45] framework until that uh wording is
[2:00:48] established we are then allowing any any
[2:00:50] business to function at will so I think
[2:00:52] it's i i would support one Mr M yeah no
[2:00:57] I'm going through this um legislation
[2:00:59] here the legislative request and the
[2:01:02] proposal is for um 6 months MH is that
[2:01:06] too much of time to to get all pick up
[2:01:10] here stopped off and let move forward in
[2:01:13] terms of continue where the previous
[2:01:16] cooperation Council left uh would 3
[2:01:19] months be enough to to to get that sort
[2:01:22] out them back to us for
[2:01:24] approval um we we can try uh I mean we
[2:01:27] have to draft the legislation and it has
[2:01:29] to come before Council and there may be
[2:01:31] amendments so it may take more than 3
[2:01:35] months um go ahead Mr M more than three
[2:01:39] mons but is is there something already
[2:01:42] draft yes uh yeah we do have I think we
[2:01:44] do have a draft absolutely so I think 3
[2:01:47] months is 3 months that because there's
[2:01:49] a draft it just need to come back to us
[2:01:51] we review get back to you any changes
[2:01:53] and then move forward in a in a couple
[2:01:55] cycle So within a month time we can roll
[2:01:58] that for six
[2:02:01] weeks um I think Mr Tor had a hand up
[2:02:07] so and the other um legal part can be
[2:02:10] put on hold all the application right
[2:02:14] for the certificates of use yes we can
[2:02:16] put on hold for the yeah for the shops
[2:02:19] and everything else that hear so
[2:02:21] everything that was filed we just put
[2:02:22] stop the clock well even if it's already
[2:02:25] been filed
[2:02:29] yes have to look at each one what the
[2:02:32] status is might be some way administra
[2:02:35] we hold or whether we be acting in an
[2:02:37] arbitrary or capricious manner yeah
[2:02:40] that's why I wanted to address that
[2:02:42] because in this recomendation here it
[2:02:44] did ask for that the whole all
[2:02:46] application yes it specifically said um
[2:02:50] no new applications but no previously
[2:02:52] submitted applications shall be accepted
[2:02:54] or even processed so even though we're
[2:02:56] already submitted the application and
[2:02:58] we've accepted them you're asking that
[2:03:00] they not be processed is that what is
[2:03:02] that what ask I just want to make sure
[2:03:04] that the ask so just just follow on a
[2:03:07] legal standpoint I don't think we can do
[2:03:08] that but if you can just I have to take
[2:03:11] follow and get back to us on that and
[2:03:14] you know my I think I think we already
[2:03:16] have the draft 3 months is good time for
[2:03:19] us to to get it back on the Barner and
[2:03:22] let's move forward with it I'm in favor
[2:03:25] of us hold it for 3 months um and along
[2:03:29] with that if if if we if 3 months isn't
[2:03:32] we can always extend it that's correct
[2:03:34] that we don't get there in three months
[2:03:35] Mr Man was your hand up you just around
[2:03:39] Mr turo Mr turo yes so um I I would
[2:03:42] still like to push for the 6 months only
[2:03:44] because we we we did most of us did meet
[2:03:46] with development um and and uh kind of
[2:03:50] uh I put an overlay on where we would
[2:03:52] like to these uh shops developed with 17
[2:03:55] cannabis applications I I do separate in
[2:03:58] the part I I know it is but I'm going to
[2:04:00] speak on that for one moment thank you
[2:04:02] um with 17 cannabis applications it
[2:04:05] seems as though and and and I've done
[2:04:07] some research where these smoke and vape
[2:04:09] shops kind of hover around um if we just
[2:04:11] look on Upper Union Street there's four
[2:04:14] and then one up a little further in Nuna
[2:04:17] um so I I would just like
[2:04:19] again for us to take our time and
[2:04:21] consider where we want these smoke and
[2:04:23] vape shops to be popping up so again I
[2:04:26] would like to just push for the six
[2:04:28] months and coration Corporation Council
[2:04:31] has a yes you have
[2:04:34] something um Mr Mr Ryan oh so yeah we
[2:04:38] were saying that we can uh we can bring
[2:04:41] the uh the draft to you for the next
[2:04:44] legislative cycle so that you can review
[2:04:46] it um for the moror yes for the moror
[2:04:49] and then we can start reviewing the Zing
[2:04:55] all right Miss Patrick you have your
[2:04:56] hand up I just think I think there's a
[2:05:00] lot of a lot here um and so I would want
[2:05:03] to stick with the six months as well I
[2:05:05] mean I don't know if others are hearing
[2:05:07] the same numbers of complaints um but I
[2:05:11] definitely regularly hear complaints
[2:05:13] about the numbers of smoke shops and V
[2:05:15] vape shops that are popping up um so I
[2:05:19] think the six months is reasonable
[2:05:20] actually um but I do support this um
[2:05:25] hear what other people want to say but
[2:05:28] um I I would like to stick with the six
[2:05:30] months as well it just seems like
[2:05:32] there's a lot that we have to that we
[2:05:34] have to
[2:05:34] do I don't know well I would I would say
[2:05:37] that I want I would prefer to go with
[2:05:39] the three months if we need an extension
[2:05:40] do it because we already had the we
[2:05:43] we've been working on this for some time
[2:05:45] there was a lot of work done we went to
[2:05:47] meet so there's a lot of work that's
[2:05:49] that that Corporation Council is not
[2:05:50] going to have to do because it's already
[2:05:51] been done we already gave our input with
[2:05:53] the exception of course of our newest
[2:05:55] council member so and again if we go
[2:05:57] three months and we're able to make that
[2:05:59] deadline which I would hope that we can
[2:06:01] work through that and get that done then
[2:06:03] if we're not there then we have an
[2:06:04] opportunity for an extension I'm sorry
[2:06:06] Mr M yeah and the draft is already in
[2:06:08] place even they overlay the map the
[2:06:11] draft of the legislation is already in
[2:06:13] place it just need to to pick up the
[2:06:14] speed that we're left off and kind of
[2:06:16] put it together and bring it back to us
[2:06:18] which is kind of in agreement here in
[2:06:21] terms of that and three months is good I
[2:06:23] mean in the past I didn't support it
[2:06:25] because there was an enforcement code
[2:06:27] enforcement but we have change in
[2:06:28] staffing change in Staffing so I cannot
[2:06:32] stand on the fence and says well I'm not
[2:06:33] supporting it at this point of time
[2:06:35] because we need to give both Department
[2:06:37] time to bring it back to us with updated
[2:06:41] um
[2:06:42] narratives and so we do need to clarify
[2:06:45] whether or not it's um we can legally
[2:06:47] stop the application that are in process
[2:06:50] yeah follow
[2:06:51] up okay so and that will that be
[2:06:54] clarified then in the resolution whether
[2:06:55] because if we can't then it won't be a
[2:06:57] part of that we or could you just
[2:06:58] clarify with the council just um you can
[2:07:00] send it to miss mik and she'll send it
[2:07:02] out to all of us whether or not that can
[2:07:03] even be a part of the leg um the
[2:07:06] resolution that we put forward
[2:07:07] absolutely are there other questions
[2:07:11] concerns okay so at this point in time
[2:07:14] go ahead we'll move uh for three months
[2:07:18] moratorium for 3
[2:07:20] months contingent inability for
[2:07:23] applications correct that's correct yes
[2:07:25] than second all in favor I okay three
[2:07:31] months okay um did that so the last four
[2:07:35] items on the agenda are all property
[2:07:37] sales which have to be done in the
[2:07:39] executive session so all members of the
[2:07:41] public will have to
[2:07:47] leave
[2:07:50] he