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I'd like to call to order the uh speci
committee this conect city council on
Thursday February 15th and we just had
one committee which is um City
development and planning and uh our
purpose tonight is to discuss the um the
to review the arpa rescue plan act
funding so you all have a lot of
documents in front of
you and so I really wanted to have this
meeting because we've been doing
allocations for seem like a couple of
years and we really need to at the end
of 20 24 all the money needs to be
allocated to projects there are some
projects that are um still have time to
come up with their contingencies but
tonight I just wanted to make sure that
we' over what we have where everything
is and what we need to be looking for um
down the road so sorry what was the date
has to be allocated the end of 24
December
2024 so um Miss Miss haror provided us
with information which is also in your
packet towards the end to go over what's
currently in
contract so I thought that you know
we're going to be doing probably some
cross referencing with documents but I
thought that was a good place to start
just to kind of Revo that so everyone
has that it's towards the end of the
it's no this just this sheet that she
printed out for us that was made it very
concise
than
um so I just need to their question is
going to probably come up about how much
money is left and today Mr uh Google M
said there was about $50,000 after all
that's
out after only $50,000 left is that what
you well prior to our last allocation it
was only 2.5 something so yes what's
been allocated so that doesn't count
what's still out there that if it's a
possibility we be bringing it back but
in terms of allocation that's what he
said there
was so we can go through these um
discuss having any questions if um
discussing any of them and then it it
goes on to page two about about some
other ones where there's there's asks
for additional money but as I said right
now he said there's a there's about
$50,000 and there's some questions that
well I'll wait till we get
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there so everybody have you look through
the first under in contract we're
everybody's comfortable with those in
contract okay
um and then the next one is appending
the contract draft which is Coco house
and dcni Hamilton Hill inl project so I
think that's pretty easy you could just
go through that you know those are
already handled
basically and if you're in if you need
want to know exactly how much money is
allocated there's a chart on the front
of this that tells you what's allocated
to each
project and do we need to go through
that yes on resolution 22
214 so the and
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22224 the Miron Craig Street money
1.25 what happens with that well we're
not there so let's um so let's let's kind of go through where they are
on there it's just easier if we go
through it as it is on the sheet that
Miss uh that Miss Carver provided for us
will she be present this evening she
will not be not okay so miss dor you
were saying that you want to know line
by line how much money was allocated to
each it's in the documentation provided
great
WC there's the
scre and just keep in mind what what you
have before you or ones that actually
funding was allocated to right you're on
page
four right well just Pages four through
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yeah resolution number 22 222 214 and
222 2022 224 those are the um resolution
where we allocated the funding okay so
City projects are under in contract they
separate so um yes yeah the short answer
is yes
y there is one city contract I just want
to bring forward to say that at this
point in time uh um our chief engineer
Mr Wallen says that Riverside
Park they haven't really he there's
money is set aside there's no plan right
now so I just want to make you aware of
that I hav't seen that how about it's on
page nine so the Aquatic Cent on the
second page that's gone yes we resed
that we resented the money for the appli
center that's
gone yes Mr Williams m Mr C announced
like U I know the money's allocated any
plans or is he foreseeing any issues
with Mr wow Mr
W Mr W with regards to Riverside Park P
says the money has been allocated but
there's been no plan so right now
whether there's the park committee is
not meeting um I know that the mayor
talked about a skateboard park I think
down there um but right now there's no
plan is what he said
today I'm not saying that we're talking
about moving the money now but I just
want you to be aware
okay so um so we're not the Central Park
Pool obviously we're not talking about
let's start with 20
214
okay if that's easier for all right so
we're not talking about the pool
obviously at the golf course uh the
money for the Aquatic Center was
descended from that project um so now
we're at Miracle on Craig
street according to
what M Carver has provided to us it says
it's currently in the hands of
Corporation Council so I would ask Miss
um Mr barash what we is uh I just have
to uh record the Deeds at the thir the
returning the properties to the city so
I just need to get to the uh county
office to report the Deeds so that was
an effec transfer I'm hoping to get
there tomorrow
okay and so um well we all know what the
project was and we know what we
allocated towards it
and so I don't know if anyone has heard
from other people but however I have
heard from U others regarding um wanting
the project to still move forward
so yes M Williams yep so in line with
that I would be very uh opposed to
reappropriate those funds to any other
projects uh definitely this um one
project facilitates a really big need
within that Community but also offers
additional resources in addition to our
boys and girls club uh I think everyone
could appreciate uh I think Mr manini in
your uh inauguration you you you
highlighted uh the importance of the
Carver Center and I think every year
that that is not reinstituted uh is is I
think a disservice to the community I
think with this arpa funds
uh very much this is generational money
that we should use appropriately and I
believe with this project it meets a lot
of ass within the community um from
myself I've heard informally about a I
guess quote unquote Coalition that would
be interested so I think I'd like to
hear if anyone's reached out to the
mayor um but definitely I'd like to see
our best efforts to ensure that this
project is still able to be uh pushed
through there has been informal
inquiries from the group that I believe
is uh has the wherewithal to put a
package
together um Can to to keep it as a
community center or for a different
use a community center
format a community center format can you just give me a little bit more
there I'm not sure what that really
means the initial Lor would be
daycare and there's no other group
that's approached you oh well okay I
know there's another group that's
reached out to your office so um just so you know that didn't happen in
group reached out to me and it's not I
did hear about the daycare group though
as well but reached out to me and I
don't know if any other council members get phone
calls from any other groups no okay well
there's those those two groups that uh
reached out so Mr Williams has someone
reached out to you as well yes not in
regards to a daycare though okay so I I
heard from both What were what was
what's the other one to to keep it a
community center for it to be a
community center not with the U not with
the daycare being the um anchor but the
maybe the daycare could be a tenant as
if we know about Carver before for those
of you that don't know um Carver was a
community center and there was a daycare
in there so the other group talking
about remaining as a daycare and having
and excuse me remaining as a community
center where um it stays a community
center and they can have daycare
services in there um and also in my
thinking when we're talking about the
Craig M connection I don't see why that
could not somehow we could look at that
and ask for some additional funding to
do this project because it's right on
cig street so that it stays um as commun
set so that appar clearly there's some
conversations that's going to be had
around that
did you have your hand up yes okay Mr so based on the conversation um there's
two group that is in communication with
Mr Williams
mfield can you have those two groups
submit a proposal and who are those two
groups well I don't know if they're ready to I mean I we can I can
tell you I don't know if they're they
haven't said anything publicly so what I
can go back to them instead ready to
submit a prop proposal why don't we do
it that way yeah I think that would be
ideal is to have these two groups submit
their proposal in writing mhm okay I
think that's what we'll we'll do it that
way as opposed to saying if this group
if that group we'll ask them if because
then we'll know if we get something
formal from them then we'll know we can
talk that once they submit their
proposal then we can invite them to do a
presentation to us
right I'm sorry I'm sorry you had your
hand up I'm sorry I'm just thinking
about this um I have to say that I
think I me that's that's a good chunk of
change that we could be using in other
ways for some of the other projects that
have submitted money uh submitted you
know requests for the funding um in
light of the fact that we only have
$50,000 left this is another you know
whole pocket so I do hear what Mr Mudan
is saying that I think that would be
appreciated if we had a proposal or two
uh to actually be looking at something
daycare is certainly in need um um I'm
not as convinced about the community
center need given some of the other um
opportunities that exist there
um is it's when you say there I mean in
that in that neighborhood in that area
um but is it the same group that was
doing miracle on Craig Street I mean do
we know that the answer is no okay I'm
not going to negotiate in public if you
want to Executive session I'll give you
the update of okay
so like I said as Mr suggested we'll
just ask them to submit the proposals
anybody coming forward the reality is
this project is about $2 million short
if every dollar that's on the table now
is put forward so somebody that doesn't
have $2
million yeah in a readily available
funding stream I don't considering a
serious Contender this okay as the
council president pointed out we are
under a deadline now
of December 31st and the reality is you
know it's really December 1st by the
time anything is straggling out
there
Mr and that's what I was going to add to
because if the groups that is is making
calls they need to come forward with
partners with Partners who's going to be
coming to this project and exactly if
you're if it's under $2 million right
now on paper we need to get people
involved in in you know organization or
Foundation that is willing to commit
additional money we can't just go what
happened here
unfortunate that we allocated $1.25
million and there is no additional
partners and we were we were told over
and over that um this was going to
happen that there people are there ready
to to to jump you know on board and make
um funding commitment and this project
is still here with no other partners we
do not want to go down this road again
y Mr Char um I agree with what Mr mudon
just said and the mayor brought up the
timeline that we're working with
yes the um and since the um the uh deed
is coming back to the city I mean the
city
should again decide this
1.25 million should go into whatever the
city's going to do to make this building
I don't think we can exactly say that
yet I think we have to look at
everything that comes to the table so
should we said deadline on the proposals
um I mean we can ask for proposals but
when you want them
in are we March 31st was is our deadline
well March the early the earlier we can
get it is better because we're have
we're in March already so the deadline I
think was March 12th that we gave on a
couple of the the couple of the
exensions um is February 15th y so
um the mayor did I mean mayor if you
want reach out to I know I know both
groups and so I know that you know who
the other group is so if you want to
reach out to them and um ask that and I
will reach out to the other group so
that we then will formally know that
these groups really are
interested okay yes Mr Willams and I I
truly think it's worth noting I don't
think we should be so quick to discredit
uh the efforts of the original group
that was foreseeing or managing the
Miracle on CED project it was a a very
uh I I appreciate the work that they
were able to do up to this point uh they
saw this project continue to be a focal
point for a significant amount of years
I think we all can agree to the fact
that they weren't able to secure
additional funding as the mayor
recognized which is an important aspect
of this but I really do uh value uh the
work that they were able to up to the
work that they were able to do up to
this point and I think if there is any
ability for our city to then put itself
into uh this mix to ensure this project
is saw through to its fruition I think
again the community is only going to be
the one to benefit and I think there
were some barriers to uh other um
Financial contributors um uh adding on
to this project so hopefully with the
backing of a coalition which would
represent multiple organizations that
might uh sway some additional funding to
come to this um however I do agree
though that our timeline we are up
against the wall we do have the end of the year and I I do think if
these Coalition if this Coalition is
serious about coming forward I think is
our responsibility to at least hear them
out uh with an open and objective
ear Mr M yeah if you're going to do that
because we have to look at the Timeline
I'm not sure when did we extend Aman CRA
to March March 12th March
15 uh I think it's if we're going to do
that we have to get this Coalition this
group in prior to that because it's very
important because we have another one
also on March 12th that we going to go
this this year so we need to um
absolutely a Level Playing Field across
the board in terms of are we going to
extend and if we're not going to extend
then we need toate the money into
projects that's going to benefit
us right and and so let me just and I
know the people are talking about other
projects but I also don't want to let's
let loose sight of that the city is
going to have to bond money so if
there's money that we can reallocate I'm
very much in favor in putting the
projects that we don't have to bond
because bonding means that we're
borrowing and we have to pay back and if
we can put it towards that I see that is
a as a road to go down so I just want to
make sure that you know we have the
conversation about that because you know
why borrow money if you and there's an
opportunity or yeah to lower the amount
that you're borrowing so just yes
something just my my about the surveys
that was offer on MAR is there something
similar that is being done at CoCo house
kind of similar no PO house is strictly
about uh after it's like an after school
PR after school program only yes that's
all that it is and the um and so because
I heard what you said so um if you if
you're talking about the electric city
Barn that's really a maker space and
what has happened with Electric City
Barn it was just a discussion because
they had an event there the other night
it turns into having to use it as a
community center because there's a lack
of the community center I guess I meant
the programmatic aspects of what the
community center at Caro had done and
for example the programs for youth are
definitely being offered by boys and
girls club by Coco house um I mean you
know these programs at the two library
branches um I don't think during the
school day right they they didn't have
services for youth during the school day
did they wouldn't it they did have a
program if a child wasn't able to I mean
we're really I mean we can go we can if
we want to talk about that in really in
depth they did have a program if a child
was not able to stay in school because
they were suspended there was a program
where the children could go to the
Carver and they wen't in a program I
believe it was called the laer program
so the answer to that question is
yes so um but we will ask for the
proposal so because I don't want to you
know belabor just skip stuff on that
particular
one uh the city of skin jury
foundation so this one and was
one uh that I understand that it's been
put on hold a May if you could speak to
that we're still looking at the
Empowerment Center in this project and
I'm
not up to date on what the actual
negotiation are
about possible merger cross utilization
of some of the space or program
development when you say this project
which project do you
make both of them Dua and the
Empowerment
Center so all right so we're not going to so the Empowerment
Center Dury is contingent upon the
Empowerment Center because that's not
how they submitted their applications
but is that what we're
doing I'm not sure what we're doing it
involved to something that separate from
what the initial applications were all
right so well we'll definitely have to
take a look at that I'll ask
Miss I'll ask Miss Carver about that
because you know we're getting I anyway
multiple and let's just so you know when
people call me I give them all of your
numbers and tell them to call you
like you need to call
everybody um so that would be a question
for Miss Carver about yeah well I would
like some um clarification as
clarification on that yes
so right from the start it wasn't a
combined project between the two or two
entities no it was not I see so I'm
looking at the
additional
okay all right the conc foundation Sun
connect uh for the healthy food
access so are there questions regarding
this one well I actually will say that
right from the start it was also
supposed to include concern for the
hungry as you can see on the grid on
page five and it just kept getting not
put on to the other grid I think in
every single meeting I kept saying what
happened to concern for the hungry what
happened to concern for the hungry so at
in discussions that I had with previous
Staffing in the development office
um they basically had told me that and
told concern for the hungry that the
money that they had given to the sky
Foundation um part of it was to be used
for the
transportation program that concerned
for the hungry wanted to run but that
never occurred so we got another um
email recently from concerned for the
Hungary as we went down this path uh
still requesting funds um be allocated
for the transportation program so I just
wanted to put that back on the table
because it didn't happen as part of this
Coalition you can see it's on the grid
here too right it's on this
grid um so I just want to you know some
hope that somebody would make sure that
either this money part of the $950,000
goes towards that Transportation program
or I mean if we only have $50,000 left
that's you that would be I think I think
he the email that we got recently I'd
have to go back and look but I feel like
it was 40 or $50,000 right there that
they were asking for does anyone I don't
remember the the the number but um Mr M
so so this one is showing on on this G
here is in contract does that mean that
contract was awarded for foundation s
and
Sun concern concerned for
Foundation cover
um so we we going to award 950 to
Foundation we did they had the ability
to draw down 950 as they develop the
program I don't know what's actually
been draw
down um and in terms of uh I did also
get the email for from the group
concerned for the hungry and one of the
um concerns was with their applic was
the use of those particular funds I
remember this from the is that they
wanted to
buy bu
token and give them out to people yeah
but what they what they were really
doing was working with the network of
food pantries and actually giving money
to the food pantries that could then be
given out as for example an Uber or ayt
or whatever to people because it's such
a ma major barrier um transportation is
probably the number one barrier for
folks that are using using various food
pantries um because they can't get home
with the bags of food it's very
difficult for them to to do that so um
so I think conf hungry actually ended up
just using some of their own funds to
continue doing that uh through the food
pantry so they're not actually handing
you know you or I um a bus token they're giving money to the pantries to
be used for transportation and that's
what they were still looking for f
I have to review well first of all this
needs to then if this is already in
contract and supposed to be a part of
that then we need to be talking to
Foundation ask contact Foundation ask
them to work with concern for the hung
or maybe um ask the development
office or we should go through the devel
um office Development Office concerned
for the Hungary requested a $100,000,000
that's the most recent email yeah let's
break so so so that's in contact they
that's going to have to is anyone like
are we holding anyone responsible to
report back to us on how they're yeah
appropriating this money it'll be part
of the contracts that they would have to
meet certain objectives and report back
um on meeting those objectives the same
as when we do the cdbg
contracts so are you are you asking like
are we doing or is Department of
development development
absolutely um the little leagues uh the
Blue Jays so we know that a lot of this
project was already done the money let
me see yeah this money
allocated mov forward is there is there
anything left in that
Alle the work that's largely been
completed at Michigan Avenue but you s
for Oregon Avenue that look to be done
this season right so the money would
stay there but now we need to do what's
needs to be done at Oregon Avenue I was
just speaking with the gentleman from
Oregon Avenue out there so um can we have Alex find out how much
money is left from that 350 well we can
find that from yeah there was a
resolution that we recently passed Mr W
came for us for allocation for M
Pleasant and there was like close to
170ish remaining about that don't quote
me but somewhere resolution remaining
towards Oregon Avenue so far they this
is from 350 you all have the document as
well 800 uh 88,000 has been 950 has been
expended um and then you came for for an
additional funding to bring that problem
right yes so in with all with there's
about half half um half they had spent
about half yes so proba right there's an
arbit analysis and it goes through all
the programs and how much in
sp there would be a lot of cross
referencing into these documents
actually are in communication because um
when we discussed thatd when sorry when
we had discussed that um at the city
council meeting here they there were
some emails back and forth to Mr wall
and he is engaging on the folks at oron
and the development of that
part so so was was this 350 but they
wanted and they spent a certain amount
but they wanted to finish the wall and I
actually drove by to see the wall and it
did look a little unfinished until the
additional um money was allocated so
it's still from the same 350 but they
allocated a certain amount over to
um over to Michigan and then the rest
will go over to air
for uh seat Center is already in
contract I do believe
yes safe incorporate um is already also
the safe house is already in contract
yep the Green Market is in
contract and we can go on to um the next
resolution where that's where the rest
of them are 20
20224 on page nine because the ones
before the city
projects so we already know that Jerry
barell and the Central Park Pool and all
that's those are City projects moving
ahead um bcni for the uh foreclosure
prevention is in contract
uh they're calling it the infill project
but I believe this is the same way as
the um the own occupied weh have no no
it's not take it that no it's not the in
okay so the there's pending contract uh
for the bcn I
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Hamilton and then the dcni owner
occupied home repair and rehabilitation
program is in contract
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MH Electric City Food
Co-op is pending submission of preon
contractual documents that's what it
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says I think the next turn this page it
seems like it's easier to go this
way back to the last said they are they
in on this one they submitting um
contractual documents that she she says
it's pending submission of threee
contracted documents the information
from Miss uh Miss Carver
Miss okay um let's see the Hamilton Hill Drop
in
Center can can we get some information
on this one on the hamton hill drop iner
no no no the electricity food for you
want M car to give us some information
yes sure that's what we because um
submitting the contract is submitting
the application documents I just want to
know where we are that because they have
to receive matching funds also here all
right I think what we can do is as we go
through these and find what we need then
we can miss as Miss Carver to um provide
that to us and we again think if we have
just a meeting solely committed to this
you could stay focused on that we can
ask her to be here the next time the
reality with that project is site
control you have to identify the site
where the building is going to go that
is for
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situation you can't put a building up if
you don't have a site that was the
reason why I want to ask what the
document is being submit because there
is no there is no that's I want but it
is March 12th I mean we did give them a
deadline of March 12 um in terms of
coming up the they needed and my
understanding that Metroplex is working
with them on that so for the yes so we
have to find out where that is so
hopefully we can get that in the next uh
Tuesday maybe well we won't be doing
this again on Tuesday no you can get
some information at least to move from
you know Tuesday so that would be
nice Mar 12 is R the car yes it is so
we'll ask Miss car then we she said
another meeting to have her here as
these things that we need some updates
on and meet in short
order is there more questions about the
call all right on page
10 the hand hill art center is uh
currently in
contract in
contract
Center Coco house is pending their
contract the Boys and Girls
Club is let's make sure it's the right
one Yep they're in contract
MH why WCA
is on this sheet okay needs the critical
needs is the first one and that one's in
contract and then the second one is the
Harbor House on your paper on the one
where it says uh pending submission it
says ym but it really is the Y right and
their ask is for
$750,000 but as I recall didn't they
come and ask for additional funding yes one point it was over 1.5 million I
think it was the additional the
discussions are still still when they're
looking for arpa funding there may be
other options with the overall funding
of the rehab of that
building so are you saying they don't
they're not now asking for the
additional 1.5 they're asking for it but
I'm just saying that they're we don't we
don't have it they're other looking at
other scenarios and it's still
finalizing what the exact numbers are
going to be so they're going to be held
to the same standard as everyone else in
terms of meeting their
contingency well that up the city
council I'm trying to line up the
funding for the project as a
whole I think we need to hold everyone on the timeline because we have
been backward to extend timeline unless
ask you for a favor no no backward to extend these over and
over I think it was not favorable when
we extend it extend it and now we're
asking at this point in time to extend
it uh well you know I I have we got to
be careful okay what we doing go ahead M
um it's cut off a little bit on this on
this sheet but are they one of the ones
that we had the March 12th as a um we
did not approve giving them more than
the
750,000 no we did not they came but they
did not ask we did not approve
but I know there was more than one that
had the 312 Harbor House is right here
oh you trying to see what this is way up
there um pending City for more funding
requests yeah of 1.5 million that's what
that said okay so but it didn't have a
March 12th deadline or anything like
that on this particular project I don't
think
so yes everyone of them I think they did
oh okay well then um so so they're not
asking us for the 1.5 anymore mayor
you're oh yes they are oh yes they
are okay I think they might be asking
for a little bit
more
wellow we consider them we to have to
consider other people that need short
Falls wouldn't
we we don't have any we don't have money
anywhere we don't yeah we don't we have
about $50,000 as well some of these
agency needs to go to look at L other um
opportunity for
funding okay um so we're that was so
that was a 750 and so we have any any
more questions regarding that one
I'm sorry I'm talking
myself her inhabitat for Humanity is
currently in
contract still on page
10 and and scap um is in contract and as
we recall we uh allow them an
opportunity to repurpose the
fundings Bethesda house is for $200,000
currently in contract but they did come
and ask for an additional I believe it
was
200,000 to they up that to 300
400 yes I think up four Yes somewhere
there
yes not that's on top of the 200 that's
correct oh four more mhm well I guess
our answer to everybody is we don't have
the money we only have
$50,000 you can each have 10
um so we did the Harbor House let's see
Center bethesa
house so they're asking for additional 400,000 you said
mayor I I'll note it that's in the
document yes I think is that the number
yeah here yes it's
$400,000
okay we'll make not of that we leave on
top of the 200 right
extra
400,000 and yes Mr Williams I I think
it's worth noting that a lot of these
projects found that hey they can
increase their capacity with additional
funds so I think we and trying to repeat
what uh councilman F would say is it's
appreciating or uh not short sighting
the good with the great so I think with
the money we currently allotted we've
done a lot of good within the community
and I think as people are trying to
expand to do more I think we're
recognizing in the closing months of
these allotments that essentially just
the money is not available so I would
like it for us to stay presently aware
of We contractually There are projects
that are well positioned to do a lot of
good in the community and I think we
should remain focused on that as we
since you're having to tell certain
projects there's no additional funds out
there at this present
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time their project costs increased I
think is what they're saying in their
letters construction costs got higher
than they expected by $400,000 my
question would be to everyone that's
asking for more money is this the only
place you're
coming if you have an additional let's
say 400,000 are you just coming straight
to to looking for the arbor funds or you
looking for money other places because
we can't be you know there there should
be that diversity of looking for
funds absolutely we should not be the
only source of funding for for projects
they need to go out and seek additional
funding other agencies other
municipality the county has funding also
that they can tap into I mean I can't
speak for all these agencies but I would
think that their development staff their
executive directors I mean just from my
past experience working that they
probably are looking for all sources and
can I'm sorry I I do want to say I think
when Miss Carver was here with one of
the weeks that she was here I was
heartened to hear that our office is
also providing technical assistance to some of the agencies which I was
really glad to hear that um you know
they will use their expertise as well to
talk to the agencies um but it might be
worthwhile for you know us to host
something at some point where we talk
about diversify funding and sources that
are available for nonprofits to be able
to seek funding I mean that kind of
thing but I I was thrilled that Miss
Carver mentioned that um they are giving
that kind of Technic assistance to our
agencies I think the department of
development has done that pretty
consistently and especially around cdbg
so I think that this is just just
expanding it because it's more money and
so we're just offering that so that's
something that we have done before and
talk about that they do have two two
training schedule this month
yes yeah wey on
thata focus on cdbg oh the C then within
cdbg you get people to look at other
options that be out there for the need
or project that they're trying to do or
undertake yeah um all right so
the on page 11 now the top of page 11
the art center and theater connec doing
business as PS as you recall they put
they the the money that we allocated
they submitted uh what they submitted
was prior to the um actual Grant and so
therefore res sended those funds however
now we're now getting a
letter did everybody get a copy of it's
in your packet
yeah okay so now they're asking that we
uh we allocate the funds I guess based
on what we've done with other groups and
we and you know you took the money but
then reallocated it to the same
organization but for a different youth
they're asking for the same
consideration I would support that um
that ask um because the you know it's
their roof it's it's obviously giving
them major problems and given what
Proctors contributes to the economic
development um of the city I thought it
was a pretty valid um change of use I
guess I don't know correct term but we
have done it for some other
organizations um in terms of changing
what the original proposal was so I
would support it I don't know what the
rest of you
feel uh I'm not opposed oh go ahead Mr
where is that
76,000 in the 50 spend we haven't used
it no so everything what is left is only
what's been unallocated everything that
you're seeing before you is considered
an allocation so the 76,000 is not
outfit so would be added to the right
now the 50 okay it was rescinded and
back into the bucket MH but we spend it
out we only have
$50,000 something some there's not even
76 so it's not 76 and wait and so the Returned money from the Kanas also
mayor um went
back I don't know that I don't know that
necessarily did we resend the the they
back themselves they did the project
without our money right we looked at it
internally not the 10 hous but took some
amount of money could have the
carpenters and City Crews build some
picnic tables either for Parks or some
of the other locations that they had
uh thought they wereas program so let's
just see if because um Mr B provided us
with all these so let's just see if it's
um on the analysis that
he what we um what we need to do is to
look at um Kanas and resend this money
and keep it into the city because since
the city is going to be doing the work
we just reallocate it back to city that
remove it officially from this I don't
know if it's been pulled back or not we
looked at but we wouldn't need the full
10,000
yeah yeah it's in it's it's in here is
the although the money is here yeah it's
in but we send it no we they said we
could have it back yes right but did we didn't do anything not do anything
formal yet so we need to do a formal um
amendment to this resolution to resend
this money and and pull it back into the city bu um so I'm sorry mayor
you said that the city is going to build
these picnic benches I said we could
that's part of that is the Staffing in
January and February slower is the
weather starts to warm up we may not
have staff have the free time they're
going to have other projects that they
have to get P from but again if the
council want to do that we could uh what
they how many picking tables were they
looking to build 36 I don't know what
those sites are so we could look at
putting those together and identifying
sites where they would go either uh some
of these pre-identified organizations
are within the central
park within the park System including
Central
Park yeah you I don't know if they
decided where they wanted them
um with you um and the other thing is is
it because we would do it is it really
going to cost 10,000 because we have
larger capacity to buy materials Etc
what I would saying is we only need the
cost for the materials okay and I don't
know and this is that is that one of the
areas when they did these costs Lumber
was one of the things where it went up
dramatically during Co so
that
where say normally it would been 2500
bucks is it 5,000 to covered or how many
do we actually need or want to build
right so we have to do the resolution to
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um all right um hold on so um just a
comment on the practice letter uhuh I I
don't I don't have an issue um funding
70,000 77,000 because the project is
$255,000 and they're going to be um
fronting all the additional money they
did submit an application to us for
76,000 now we resend it because of the
they paid for the work already
so my suggestion is that we should hold
this and see if we have additional
funding that is coming back in that we
might have to resend and then make this
allocation I just lay that on the table
okay and we should just also make sure
that it's a cost that can be covered by
arbra we just have to make sure that we
definitely have to make sure that I bet
it is because I'm not going to bet I'm
going to read it up just in terms of
what the original guidelines were this
one not getting any money
from I think this one really fit you get
B at something oh I like what are you
talking about this
sorry going to have some more okay so um
I agree with that but again we want to
make sure that this is an appropriate
use of the funds and we don't have any
problems of getting money clawed back Mr
Williams you a question yes or um I had
a question a comment so to the Proctors
I think you're asking where each council
member are kind of hinted that I I agree
and I think based on the context of how
we reevaluate other projects I think the
only difference is just as of now we
only have the 50,000 but I I would be in
agreement with reevaluating it later or
um committing to 50 ,000 that we do have
now um but then secondarily I know we're
talking about Kus and just wanting to
add two comments at once um I think part
of the selling point for me or what I
appreciated with the project was that it
was youth driven so the only thing I
would ask as mayor would it be
appropriate for the uh Carpenters to
partner with one of our local
construction agencies and I think 36 is
a big number especially if Lumber is
going up but I think even if we scaled
it down I think just delivering on some
would be a nice win especially for our
parks yeah it's possible to make
something work yeah we should probably
add it to the rebuilding of the Mount
Pleasant welcomeing
s
oh you're not in off
trouble exactly you really want to go
down that
road you can talk to L about that t
we're not talking
about all
right okay okay oh
speaking of Mount Pleasant so Father Jim
had put in for uh the kids in Mount
Pleasant to have $50,000 allocated for
his basketball court up in that up on
Pearl Street so I'm putting that out
there because he did resend a letter to
us in
uh oh to reconsider his application in
SE October of last year um to reconsider
his his uh original application yes
fully name of Jesus on the church
parking lot not not a park right right
not right no the little it's triang in
front of the church there's a little
island or kind of there and what his
proposal was apparently kids throw
footballs out there play baseball
whatever and his suggestion was to put a
basketball poop up the backboard that
EXC the church would help maintain it
monitor it and uh police it is this city
own property that we're talking about
yes main Wing in Pearl streets
yeah I can't pick picture EXA so it's so
it's a city owned property and he wants
to put up a hoop essentially and paid it
what
no he's an intricate part of that
neighborhood in Mount Pleasant with a f
Pantry no no no I'm I'm just saying and
that's that's why he still keeps
advocating for it for the kids um now my
daughter lives right there on Pearl so
I'm very familiar with with that whole
little section there and and what the
pastor Jim Father Jim does over there
but I don't know what it looks like but
um you know in a city owned property I
think we have to take that in
consideration if that's I just don't I
can't picture it so I can't really speak
to I just want to bring that forward
again that he's consistently
sent application and also if the city is
doing major other projects it's if this
is just Paving okay is it is it
something that we could just do without
striping make par it probably has some
striping for right the same like they're
doing on other Parks is there something
that we could do in addition to when
we're already doing other Parks it could
be but they put it in application
originally and then asked us to to look
at it again we have to take into conf we
have the park and tent Avenue con fre um
or chart par and then we have the one at
um kation Drive
so this are all part that can be used
because we have spent a lot of money but
upward of40 $50,000 to outfit um those
par and the last one was a Orchard Park
a lot of money was spent there and all
these equipments are in there so you can
go there and participate and you know
enjoy um those
equipments so there was oh there it is
holding
in so they are facility that they can
use in M pleas
just putting for if it's something I I
don't know that I I'd have to see it
because it's hard to speak to something
you can't see if it's something that I'm
just concerned if about sometimes we see
these basketball court hoops and there
they end up being in the right away and
all of that so I'd have to like kind of
see what that looked like um and just
bring forward on his behalf for the kids
in Mount F that's what he told me
today as Mr M said there are a number of
parks there but it's certainly
consideration I would like to actually
um to be able to see it and make sure
it's not in the right way because
sometimes we do have that with
basketball hoops and we now well I won't
mention because we've had people bring
you know do other facilities that
weren't publ were weren't under the
city's control and then it was built
anyway so we do need to take a look at
that The Stockade
Association um so that was money that we
originally uh assigned to the stock
Association then we sended the pro we
send it to the because the city was
doing the project and see how much we've
spent on that
one I don't know it's showing
here
okay
uh man I thought that there was some
work done there and I see that I don't
see any
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there was some work done on the outside
to
uh help secure the building but I don't
know what the so are they are they
calling it the North Street uh Pump
Station now as opposed to stock
association yes well that's what the
building was they were going to do it
then they've expended
$177,000 so far and that makes sense
it's in repair for Windows and okay P so
that project is still moving forward to
that City now well it's
still come the final utilization of the
building so you go in there there there
not a floor you know you have a a well
that drops down to the lower level so
what do they want to do with it you want
to put a floor across it you want to use
it as a some type of community
room public bathrooms Visitor
Center
okay and anything about the basic
repairs of that building I don't believe
this allocation is going to be enough to
cover all the expenses
okay so you're U you're saying what the neighborhood is asked for you
don't think you the funding bets
allocated going that some of the ask is
still a little bit vague so it's to
finalize that to come back to the
council the counc approve it and then we
actually move forward
to either do some of the work in house
some More's going to have to be bit out
and a contractor brought in to do the
work so I'm going to put down for the
stock Association that we're going to we
need that I thought they sent that
several times but you can ask
again
see I think in terms of the um the
allocation so far that is we've all
covers everything um we did get an
additional all of us got a letter from
the Y
MCA uh Black and Latino achiev
program asking for
$100,000 uh but I think that what we've
said so far is that right now there's there's no money out there plus
it was a new plus well that one was
Brett new H that was a new ask so the
event so we probably don't want to go
down there right I'm sor sorry which one
I said so was the events that are a new
ask so we I don't think we can use that
as a a saying someone that this is a new
ask we just really don't have the money
right now there just isn't money there
um and if we well that's always been a
concern for me if we if we open the door
which Mr Farley did ask us to open the
door again a year several months back
and we said we weren't doing that in
terms of um entertaining um new
applications although we have done that
in a way so
um the letter was to you mayor did you
want to respond to
them in terms of this it's what was to
both of us let me just they all over our
you it's up to the city council as to
what you
do well at this point in time I think
our response is currently we don't have
any um additional funding um but we have
to really consider even if we did were
we willing to consider it that we need
to be really open and honest about that
there's no point in saying it's not
because we have money and then we get
money back and then what so we have to
be open and honest about whether or not
this we're um going to be entertaining
other
applications no opinion well of course I
T well I mean I mean there were both of
uh original applications obviously no
one's not too many have thought that
there wouldd be money resend it and and
come back for an ask on there should I
mean should we put that out there if we
do get extra money you know is there
anyone put an original application but
no one seems to be knocking our door
down you know as far as original on so I
guess whatever comes in if there's any
money left we'd have to
consider because we do have a lot of
applications that from the original list
which I'm looking at that never made the
first
cut so what do you
say I don't know I don't have an
answer Mr Williams well I think the
difficult answer is we we can't
entertain any new projects and I think
it's unfortunate but I think if we look
at the process it was for the planning
and development office to get to this
stance it is a considerable lift and I
appreciate the Investments that Miss
Carver and her team has done to
continuously give us up stes that is not
without the effort and that's in
addition to the work that they're doing
now uh so definitely I want to give her
office and the mayor kudos for getting
us to this point now um but
unfortunately should we even have the
money are they and a ready status to be
able to proceive with contracts and are
they in a geared of stance and I don't
want to soon know um what to miss
porterfield's question do you want to
give that false hope uh so I think there
was conversations previously about any
unallocated money going to address the
issues with uh not having to proceive
with bonds and I think that's an
appropriate measure uh again we did make
considerations for projects that submit
projects or that didn't submit
applications I.E the um U multipurpose
uh Arena and I I can very much
confidently say that if anyone ask me in
the in the community I think that is a
similarly use if not better use than the
Aquatic Center so that's how I can
justify it but for a new project I fear
having to reopen that whole pipeline
because unfortunately we'd be doing it
for one or two projects and then so I
truly would not want to to open our
Council up to just it would be a hard no
for a lot of people and I think that
would put us in in a very uh a
precarious
situation Mr V well I think we should
take a look at you know projects that
are all in good standing and the money
that's left over and then look at those
project projects and maybe we we'll
allocate it to those agencies that that
priorities that we select are in those
areas that are important to our communy
and maybe offer them opportunities to
expand their application and
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program
yes I I think
also we can also you know encourage
people to go to those
cdbg meetings that are coming up as well
and consider putting in applications for
cdbg and we can also encourage people to
look at other funding
sources no yeah no I I know I you know I
mean I think that's I think that we
really have to be honest with the people
that come to us for money and and make
some of those suggestions um because we
don't have a a
never-ending um pool of money we simply
do not so I think we're doing them a
disservice when we continually um if
we're not at least asking them you know
are there other ways or
um something Mr mudaron brought up
before if there's way that they can
combine the services that they do I
don't think we're you know that's going
to matter at this point in time but um
sticking with the YWCA what MCA rather
what becomes our response to them
because they did write a letter suggest
asking and um if we're not even going to
be entertaining uh additional
applications I think we should just be
up front and let them know that and
respond to that and and and uh and close
that door as opposed to letting them
think that could
have and saying there's no there's no
funding funding left but you know we're
looking leaves the door open in my
opinion to that oh if we get funding
maybe we'll look at your application and
I don't think that's what I'm
hearing Mr yes um we the last time we
discussed I did discuss this the last
have to kind of put some suggestion out
there last year we did um fund um
through the budget um don't the exact
number but the youth program through the
school 150,000 and in this year budget
we have another $150,000 allocated so is
a school going to use all that money and
can we have them partner with the city
and the school to kind of tap in so what
they're doing the school and the city to
kind of work together rather than us
have a pocket there and a pocket there
just make sense so that's something I'm
going to tr again and to bring them to
the table and then discuss because I'm
sure their money from last year to they
spend this year we can we bring them
in and let them be a
partner you program with the youth
employment I thought that was our summer
you
know so that's something we are not us I
don't think we're going to be using all
that money we
could well it was basically all used
whatever was allocated in the 23 budget
and then and again if you don't use it
it's just rolled into the final numbers
going forward it's not like it's sitting
there in a separate pot yeah I I think
we we need to bring them in and let
them have a discussion bring I'm sorry
YCA cuz I think they already partner
with the school district on the
blacktino aiers program but yeah yeah
they already partner with the school
district right at this money $5,000 is
for program through the school
it doesn't say that's a question I don't
know what it's for 100,000 isn't it
working with the school directly but
it's recruit kids to work really for the
city and the parks and activities during
the
summer so with this 100,000 I didn't I
for me it wasn't clear exactly what they
wanted they said they just wanted
programmatically but there I didn't see
a budget attached and I don't know
exactly what the use
was but you that's pretty it's kind of
General so that's I'm saying we need we
need to bring them in and to kind of you
know sit to the table and talk about
this program with the Department of
development with the mayor's office and
see if they can be separate from the s
yes separate separate so is that a
responsibility of ours or is that I'm
not
sure it's all our
responsibility but I mean the 150 that's
in the budget is for summer youth
employment that hire those those
students you say 50 or50 150 that's not
the YMCA that is the money that the city
uses to hire youth to work in our Parks
so that's how we maintain our our
programs that we're doing in the parks
in the summer so let's not think about
that 150 this 100 in terms of this
program it is very generic in the letter
uh in terms of what are they asking for
but it would be to support the actual
program itself which provides a you know
I mean provides all sorts of stuff but
this it's a great program yeah it is
it's outstanding I can't I can't
disagree with that um we're going to
need lifeguards yeah no we we can't
touch that 150 for this program I guess
all those things all those things to add
up this year for next year it's not only
in the Parks or somewhere else but we
canot widen the scope of um the youth
employment so what you saying oh add
$100,000 to what we already put into the
150 I'd be all in favor of that but I'm
just saying um I I just don't want to
combine I don't want to confuse that
this ask is similar to our Summer Youth
Employment Program no no no I'm not
saying we need to find out bring them to
the table and find out what what they're
trying to do is it similar to what is
happening on this program we don't know
it's not it's not specified in that I
was on the reworking the numbers for the
new swimming pool and the pools during
the summer with the boys and girls club
we don't hire the those directly we
contract Boys and Girls Club to manage
those facilities think it's the same
thing John kids whether they're yeah
working for the city or working for the
boys and girls out there but it's just
how you actually match up the numbers
yeah and the only reason that I'm coming
back at this is because I do think
listening to what um Miss Porterfield
said we don't want to lead them down the
track of thinking that we have $100,000
that we could give to them so bringing
them in to describe the program I mean
it's an awesome program um but I don't
think that we have money to give to them
but if you wanted just learned about the
program sure
but I think that's what I heard you
saying right that you didn't want to
give you false hope I do not um and Mr
yes yeah I don't think it it will hard
because we're going to bring in to other
groups to discuss about the miracle how
we follow with the miracle say is it
something totally true we are yeah but
that's but it's also very different that
money is already there yeah so that's
very different that those aren't apples
and apples those are apples and that way
we able to understand the program more
and we know exactly what they going be
doing so we decided to fund them down
the road we know exactly uh why we're
funding them um I would suggest that we
ask for them to provide something a
little bit more in writing um and then
also
is I don't know where their hous
connected does anybody know that
disconnected YMCA the YMCA yeah they are
YMCA so is that is cdbg a place that
they could also ask for this funding I I
believe so but it's been years since
I've applied for cdbg funding so I can't
remember the parameters tell everybody
go funding but um I do would you have
that kind of specific
idea well I would say generically they
can it always gets down to the specific
details and which category it's coming
out so some things you might sit here
and say oh yes would qualify when we
actually do the application and say oh
no it's not or we reach the cap yes
other
program four categories right so Mr M
you you you know you really talk about
I'm good at just submit more documents
or makeing them in person that's fine I think way is okay with me but I just
need to know more of what they're doing
and the areas that going to be covered
because we don't want to duplicate we
have seen over years that sometimes we
duplicate the service and we have talked
about that over and over outcome you
know so Ian we can ask them but I I um I
just want to have to we have to talk
about how the word it but I just want to
know we just want to know more about it
that there's no we're not making any
commitments we have to definitely know
we're not making any commitments because
we'll be in the newspaper saying we made
a commitment um we also need um I mean
all of us including myself we'll invite
them to the this um cdbg presentation
for them to attend those seminars uh to
equip themselves and to understand CBG
program so if they're qualified they can
set applications
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mhm Okay so we've come to the end of all
the ones that we said um that we've
allocated money to and we've gone over
what we you know those things we need
additional information from Miss Harver
um or from
the mayor's
office as an fi um sure you were looking
at we did modify the resolution so
include a concern for Hunger at one
point in time so it's in this package
yeah langage no it always it was in some
of this it wasn't in all of it it
just not sorry what they're saying is
that they've not been included no not
been included that that's a conversation
that happens
with with the uh no not us it's not us
that didn't include them that's not what
they're saying the umbrella of the what
they're saying Mr M is that when they
got over to the SKC Foundation they were
left
out that's that's what is being said so
we they we need to any conversation
needs to happen with this connected
foundation and also you know we'll talk
to Miss Carver I think that's what my
name I think that would be a good idea
for Miss Carver yes I think that is what
my
name I will speak to miss car regarding
that yes
are there other things out there that um
in terms of the allocations that people
and we so then we'll um we'll s another
meeting however but go ahead I'll any
other yes Mr Williams uh just for a
point of clarification it seems like
there's three projects to um that are
still open or that we're still uh
waiting for more information um the
first is the Carver Community Center um
the second is the the uh empowerment SL
Center and then the last is the Harbor
House um so I think for myself just
wanting to be clear I think we kind of
hit or address this issue in a number of
Fashions but again it's like
entertaining new projects I think
following up on what Mr manini said it
was how do we bolster what's currently
been allotted and then I think
secondarily but also very importantly is
uh evaluating positioning a lot of that
money towards bondings or preventing
bondings in the future but I think we're
waiting for updates on those but those
seem like they're the only questionable
projects waiting for we still have the
March 12th deadline on them as well so I
would add that one to the list so the
one that we were out there were Miracle
oned the um Empowerment Center rash is
jury jury Foundation y um there's a
question about um the the identity
Foundation the funding for the um
accessible food $950,000
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um well I did mention that the Riverside
Park had no plan even though there's
money allocated fors it just want to
make sure that's um there the Electric
City Food
Co-op uh Bethesda house is asking for
additional
$400,000 the um Proctors is asking to
reallocate their money but there isn't
enough money right now so we talked
about revisiting that uh the Kanas
return the money we have to do a
resolution in order to take the money
back and the mayor said that's something
that we can that that is a project we
can do at in house we should look at
where they really we're planning on
putting those and the stock Aid
Association um we've spent some of that
money because we we did take the money
back from the stock from the we couldn't
give it to the stock Aid Association
because it's a city own property so the
city is is taking the money back is
doing the project and we do need we need
to get final information from the stock
a associations what the mayor is saying
in terms of what they really want to do
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there see if I
have just want to add to Mr Williams was
talking just about um whatever money we
can be send back Rel Ed towards projects
so that we don't have to borrow I just
want to highlight an example of the
tennis court that we just recently
awarded contract we allocated 00,000 the
project is costing us about 672 th000 so
there is
$172,000 right here G and going forward
with the city project I am more than
likely most C project will go overrun so
we have to consider that so kind of keep
some funding here to help out s those
over overs us kind of coincide about you
talking I so those are two things that
we need to consider
seriously most of these project if not
I'll will overrun great and let me just
also say we should not always be the
people that are getting giving all for
the overruns I'm going to repeat that
over and over again there needs to be
other places where they're getting funds
getting money for their overruns no I'm
talking about directly City oh just city
project talking about resending the
money bring it back keep it the house
and look at the city project where we're
getting um these project needs to get
done and able to fund if they overalls
we need to fund them
those as well in terms of the
projects can either go through the
budget which I see you have your I have
everything I
know um but I mean we could easily
probably just get all this I think
that's really smart to use the money
towards the city projects no and this is
a prime example I mean $500,000 we were
saying back when we awarded this that
500,000 might be you know the ball fig
but 172,000 but just but def that's a
good example because what Mr Wallen has
said is that the USA is going to be
looking for that additional funding and
that's what we want to see yeah that we
don't come back and say how we have to
fund it so that's what we want to see
that we allocated this it's more so this
group that really wants the money is
going to try it's trying to figure out
how to get the additional fund that as
we said at the last meeting well this is the only lucky
project well we have to encourage
projects to be more like
that think the umor I think the comment
just looking at the the Empowerment
Center dur
Foundation um I I just would question
the wisdom of spending 100 I'm $875 for
building rehab and 200,000 for training
um Workforce Development I think is at a
critical juncture in our communities
especially for those in disadvantaged
communities and just rebuilding or
building a new program $200,000 left a
program will maybe serve 20 youth mhm
young people
and I can you know and and all you know
transparency I work at a job training
agency and I see the challenges our
young people have and trying to get them
into the
workforce it it's it's difficult and
challenging so I would just question the
wisdom of spending this much money on a
building and then 200 on the actual
program it takes significant effort to
get these young people in a good
direction a positive direction get them
in the workforce a significant amount of
programming and support um it's not just
showing up and going for train is
helping them with housing mental health
issu subst issues all that wraparound
services Albany the city of ALB is
dealing with that we're dealing with
that so I would just you know my comment
would be maybe to re look at that and and maybe invest in in what some
folks that are currently doing that and
help them build those Community Support
so these young people can be successful
so let me just lend a little
clarification to the Empowerment Center
the empowerment said the money was was
not just for youth it was going to be to
help mwbe and training that is what that
was for within the um within Hamilton
Hill Neighborhood where many people
don't get on the projects that are there
so that is what the Empowerment Center
was about it wasn't it wasn't just for
youth is that what the incubator used to
do was it developed for well that's gone
through a lot of lifetimes it's not an
incubator anymore right so that was the
focus and this this particular um
application actually came out of our um
affirmative action office right here in
the city of skincity I mean in in City
Hall so that was that was not just to
take Youth and train them but it was for
mwbe and um and to make sure that they
get their skills I I believe there was
also any of reading some of the emails
we're getting there was also they were
talking about trying to um help people
to get to Public Service fire in
particular so they were working with 100
black men on that so they were trying to
get those those the kind of things that
were supposed to take place in the
Empowerment Center not just um not you
because quite frankly the Empowerment
Center and the um youth training program
came as two separate applications but
then they were merged somewhere along
the line so that's what's the build the
build on the addresses here at the
building that kind 18 Aly
Street it used to be the M you remember
mtap yes okay well it was map's uh final
home before it closed down so this was
again trying to sort of kind of
replicate some of the services that map
was offering which hasn't happened since
make tap close that was the purpose of
the Empowerment
Center um the other thing that we said
we would talk about at this meeting was
um when we allocated the um money for
the um Event Center we asked if there
would be a uh could be a community
benefits agreement that was agreed upon
and so um I ask all of you to you know
bring to the table any uh any ideas or
concerns or what you'd like to see as
part of that so if we could just have
that discussion anyone had I I do have
some things I always have to go
first but so are there anyone in terms
of um having an opportunity to look at
Community benefits agreement anything
they'd like to bring
forward Mr Williams I love going first
so um I in my research uh I found that
it is not um improper for elected
officials to um push forth uh cbas also
and so I in my research found three
areas that I think would would meet what
I would expect um the the neighborhoods
to support and how we can intentionally
write in areas for them to benefit from
this project moving forward so the first
of which was all cves they kind of speak
towards having a group of stakeholders
so I'm not professing that I know every
local organization in the community that
would benefit from being at the table
but the ones that I could remember were
uh Sun uh United neighbor just obviously
they're position to support the needs of
our local communities uh sium SE safe Inc uh Sun SKC and the SKC City
School District to serve as validating
agents for incoming events and what I
thought that would help identify is
ensuring that events or or uh uh I guess
entertainment venues that came to our
community our community felt like they
had the ability to Advocate similar to
uh the community um policing panel and
how it sits in conjunction with the
scany police department to advocate for
uh the neighborhood and in no way what I
imagine they would have the soul power
to say no um but I think positioning
them to be a part of those conversations
uh is is something that could Empower
them and then also make them more vested
in incoming events as well uh the second
was um I I am not a event planner but I
imagine they're going to be days uh
throughout the month where there is
unused or less frequent frequented uh
times for events to be conducted so what
I would like to see is a monthly or
quarterly listing of unused time that
could be offered to the community at an
adjusted at an adjusted scale and then I
imagine the gusi group that is a PO
profit organization would want to put a a uh a limit or a threshold on that
but I think that that would allow the
community residents to be able to
utilize that space that we are uh
contributing a considerable amount of
their quote unquote uh dollars from this
arpa um moving forward and then lastly I I always try to identify a youth scope
I would love to see two paid internships
or uh it does needed amount of
internships offered to our high school
students per year uh specifically around
like operations management or just
business analy strategic operations and
that way it would then create that
pipeline for some of our uh very bright
and talented uh individuals that attend
schools in our local school district
that have uh this opportunity to work
closely with individuals on then we can
agree that it's on an elevated level um
to just see and understand that you
don't have to leave this community to uh
start your professional career and it
might help us just Identify some some
bright stars to position them and
similar positions moving forward so
those are my three
recommendations okay so some kind of
what that because I actually uh went to
community members I didn't try to take
it um like off from what I thought
because I think it's important you know
when we at the other the event I asked
people at the event what would you as a
community like to see so um one of the
ones is currently apparently uh Union
has specific times where they bring kids
into skape like so that to for that to
be a part of um to be a part of the and
now it's not little longer at Union so
for that to be a part of the community
benefits agreement say make sure that stays in place my understanding is
there's also skating lessons as as that
are part of that so to for that to um
also stay in place um he already talked
about sliding
scales and um then uh this individual
and asked about having incorporating an
art gallery within the arena just having
art from local artists or whatever and
having it not not painted on the walls
Mis don't misunderstand but local
changing exhibits yeah changing exhibits
like within the arena and that's
something people can enjoy when they
come um then they said Hall of Fame
induction I guess they just having that
there and um but I think soccer is one
of the things that we're going to play
that's on my list um so a person who
cares about the walkability of skincity
wants to make sure that there are bike
racks because not everyone's going to
drive to get
there and and this um actually just came
today when there there were two people
here from the brick lers and they're
concerning this may be something
actually that goes into the contract
that's drawn up um they were concerned
about local contractors being able to
work on the project and since since they
were here I wanted to make sure that I
um brought that forward they we had an
opportunity to speak to them in the
hallway Mr M and I do there anything you
wanted to add to that Mr M no I I think
that's SP we will uh redirect them to um
the relevant um Personnel right so they
can have conversation in terms of the
GIC group in terms of um discussion and
how they can able to ATT the work force
there but so but just to just to know
that I and I I don't know that we don't
have any saying that I'm not sure about
that but I think that uh you know we
should be able to make sure that we have
as many um local contractors if that's
at all possible and I did address the
mwbe portion when they were here to uh
answer a question but just to be clear
um what was said was the only part of
the mwbe specifically was the 10 milon
from esdc although they plan to do
beyond that so um but the mwbe it's not
and the local contractors May were
probably not only be M mwbe so just so
you know there local contractors are
concerned about being able to work on
the project and that the money stays
locally so I think that's information
that needs to be that's relevant to for
all of us to know we didn't all have a
chance to talk to them they thought they
were coming tonight to actually have
that discussion and so we didn't want
them to wait through the whole thing and
so we let them know that that's not the
discussion that we were going to be
having and that's not for us to make
those decisions so just want to make
sure that um that you all knew that um
does anyone else have anything at all in
terms of the community benefits
agreement I'm just going to add to the
ESD ESD project we as a council should
encourage our MB contractor to meet with
thec group to kind of work with them to
into the workforce there because EST is
very serious about nwb
requirement uh I've course have
knowledge with it so you know so we can
able to work with them to direct them to
where they need to go to and able to um
follow up and make sure that they have
the relevant um information to make it
happen we and we know that you know we
had a contractor who's come to us a
couple times in the last couple months
who has said that you know he he lives
in sky but he doesn't get to work in
Connect so um we should definitely do
that
are there any other
um anything else with the uh Community
benefits agreement any other ideas or
thoughts that people had that they
wanted to be able to bring
forward well I do think that the aspect
of you know Youth Sports and the kinds
of lessons I do think that you know
there should be that kind of recognition
of how do we how do we work that in in
terms of who gives lessons or or that
type of thing so I think maybe a
collaboration with the school district
as part of it
um might be the way I don't know how to
word these things or you know that kind
of thing but I think certainly a
partnership with school district around
the use of
um The Event Center at part of the time
for these kind of Youth Sports
opportunities um would be an important
piece um so I I like I like the ideas
that um Mr Williams brought forth
especially the internships I think
that's a really interesting idea I think
that if there is going to be a
stakeholder group to help think about
this community benefits um I'd want to
have more input into who might be a part
of that group um what what the reasoning
would be on you know how you pick those
stakeholders um and then
uh yeah I think Proctor should probably
be at some you know be at the table
because there was some issue at the very
beginning of the discussions about the
event center so it would be good to have
rep represent you know to make sure
there's no I think they would probably
want to be at the table as well as part
of that state grou is what I'm saying
and just want to make sure that I think
discover conect is probably already
involved with the project but again
because part of it is going to be able
to be used for conferences maybe there's
a way again if the school district for
example was wanting to host a conference
of other Educators maybe there could be
some sort of significant discount or or
something like that um around conference
planning mayor and Council looking to
have these things apply to Proctors also
city has a lot more money invested in
Proctors 2 and a half million we're
going to put in the sub Center well
that's a good point I had is so are we
asking the proes for a community
benefits agreement is that what you
that's what I'm asking give them some
money you know is it just this sole
project or is this something we're
looking to apply across the awarded
yes well for me this it was this
particular project um we're awarding
funds and there's also going to be a
pilot which is minimal taxes hey Mr um
buo said that himself so when I brought
it up it was around this the only other
community benefits agreement that I'm
aware of that we ever did was with bcni
when they were doing the Elmer Avenue
project so and I know that Pro already
does a number of things in terms of
discounting tickets Etc and so on so um
I'm I'm quite aware of
that yes Mr T I'd like the took the
words out of my mouth so um I haven't
thought of anything that I'd like um for
the um Event Center to have but as far
as Community benefits agreement I mean
we've handed out money and we haven't
put these stipulations on anyone else
Community benefits agreements generally
go with development projects development
projects that's what they usually go on
with so not not agencies and
organizations but development projects
but again I you you know I I don't
understand why we're just specifically
sticking to to the harbor to the event
center I mean who are we that say you
know that they should give a discount to
um you know events coming
IDE but I they're a business they're
running a business um I'd like to see
you know um there's adults who skate
there's adult sports things like that so
on down times I would like you know
those things to happen um so those are
things that you want to see in there is
that what you're saying sure
so open SK for yes may and I'll try and
get skating lessons for the city
council I want like three blades on the
bottom of mine good so I just
want yes Mr mtiv yeah just to address
some of the the tal Point um some of the
agency that we funded within the
community they already within the
community so it's they benefiting the
community the service that they're
providing to the residents is also part
of that Community benefit that they are
providing already so there's nothing
more to add to that other than they
providing us the report the outcome to
show that they actually spending the
money and the money is being spent
wisely and the outcome is um is there
and it's whatever set out to achieve
right so you know okay can attach any
Community benefits to those agency when
already Serv a community I think when Mr buo was here making his
presentations both times he talked about
wanting this Center to have a community
benefit so I don't think that I think
obviously he they'd be involved in these
discussions we were just coming up with
some possible ideas but he clearly made
it seem that he was interested in this
being a
Community Union College wants to do you
look at that site they do the harbor
series which is free there's
no you do the fireworks so again they
want to complement the good things that
are happening here in the community and
have broad-based support and so it's uh
some of it is not to as we sit here
tonight we won't necessarily be able to
see all the opportunities or scenarios
that will present themselves as we go
forward and the utilization at that site
uh continues to increase and uh
yes Mr Williams and then just as a point
of clarification because Mr detor you
said it time and time again I would say
as council members we were elected to
represent the best interest of the city
so I think with regards to this project
again um during the presentation it was
clear that wanting to ensure that the
community benefit was at the Crux of of
this project and my understanding of
community benefits agreements is that
they just clearly outline so that it is
transparent the expectations moving
forward and again as what the mayor
highlighted it's a recommendations this
is a conversation so in no way does what
we dictate going to be the end all be
all that again is a conversation um but
again I do think we are the individuals
best suited based on our uh roles to
Advocate and and so it's going to be
conversations negotiations and there's
one thing that you did not that you
brought up at the meeting that you can
bring up tonight Mr manini and that was
when if something happened if there was
where people could gather
disaster emergency preparedness yeah so
you did bring that up and was waiting
for that but well I I was going to wait
this that that you know part of it is
they
work I was let everybody else doing okay
I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah you know that they work closely with the county
and the city event planning but also the
Emergency Management event that we would
need that as a site that they would be
available and it was you the other idea
is working with the city school district and be open to working with a
nonprofit network if they had to want to plan events that they'd be a
good Community partner in
that um and so again I you know and it's
been said time and time again that the
gy group um Mr bua when he was here said
that um because this is not the gesi
group it's what's the name of the group
what's the name of it mayor the name of
the um
company properties right so the so they
U on their behalf because he is a
partner in the in that particular um LLC
is he said that they wanted to they were
willing to do to the community open to
the community to do things so we're not
asking anything outside of what they
said they were doing we're simply saying
we'd like to make it in writing and
that's what business people do they put
things in writing so I don't think we're
going above and beyond or asking for
more than they already committed to um
when they were here so um that's that's
why we're looking at this so um the for
me to follow will be that we'll get all
the notes from today we'll put them
together bring them for the council and
we have to move forward in terms of um
meeting with whe the representatives are
from the gesi group because I don't know
that they're going to say that
everything that we ask no no um it's
going to be there but I think that we
should that doesn't mean that we
shouldn't ask and then we'll sit down
and have those conversations about what
that could look like so I think it's
reasonable and and that's how we should
move forward
we're going to put all this information
in the draft can we discuss it with them
prior to us bringing it oh to the
council you don't want to you don't want
to see it all in one concise place first
yeah we want to see everything together
but can we discuss it with the G group.
LLC partnership whatever and kind of
work with them to make sure we have it
document they working doent or do we
want to discuss I think we should bring
our information together and so we can
look at what we talked about tonight and
make sure we're there before we meet
with them to make sure we're clear on
what we really want to ask for and that
we've articulated it well well you might
they might have things that they want to
put through oh no no I'm not saying that
they won't you don't want to like U
preempt it and say well you discuss this
and then we're going to go to them now
this why our work is on the same level
work with us to get all this information
in the draft work with them to kind of
look it over and bring their suggestion
and then have one draft for us to
officially discuss I think a really good
idea I think I think bringing them back
again we were just sort of brainstorming
agreement too right so our wording
should not conflict with the count y we
can I can ask for a copy from the from
the
county and we can look at that we should
definitely look at that but and and and
so we can ask we you know I think that
we do have to definitely um ask what
there for me Comm benefit AG we're
asking them for to agree to certain
things I don't know that and for them
it's will they will or not agree as
opposed to them wanting to do say what
is what they want in the community
but
so yeah kind of way I'm thinking back
when we did the first one for the El
project was back and for that we had to
you know if you remember I I don't think
I was yeah you were on the
council couple of us yeah it was back
and forth it was back and forth back and
forth until because we we drafted they
didn't get a chance and then they review
it come back to us and it was like we
can avoid that by having you know shared
information across the board and um give
them an opportunity look at what the
county has and able to merror our draft
like similar to the county and think can
I run it to them well and I'll reach out
to Mr I guess buo tomorrow and just tell
him that if there's we are discussing
this if there are things that they would
like to see as part of it and U Mr M
you'll get a copy of the counties yes I
will right and I will sh to the they
already have done that sure mayor have
they already completed theirs count yes
okay we definitely okay so
um that's our next steps
yes oh I thought your hand was up okay
is there anything
else he a motion to a
Jour huh I ra I raised my hand all right
second second Mr M no City development
and planning committee oh one two three
oh yeah yes G you did that
okay so you made the motion I'll second
all
favor you always
call you didn't read that thing I'll get
it I
did
that no you need no we need the big one
that's that's
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