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[2:14] I'd like to call to order the uh speci
[2:17] committee this conect city council on
[2:19] Thursday February 15th and we just had
[2:22] one committee which is um City
[2:24] development and planning and uh our
[2:26] purpose tonight is to discuss the um the
[2:29] to review the arpa rescue plan act
[2:32] funding so you all have a lot of
[2:34] documents in front of
[2:36] you and so I really wanted to have this
[2:39] meeting because we've been doing
[2:41] allocations for seem like a couple of
[2:44] years and we really need to at the end
[2:46] of 20 24 all the money needs to be
[2:50] allocated to projects there are some
[2:52] projects that are um still have time to
[2:56] come up with their contingencies but
[2:58] tonight I just wanted to make sure that
[2:59] we' over what we have where everything
[3:02] is and what we need to be looking for um
[3:05] down the road so sorry what was the date
[3:09] has to be allocated the end of 24
[3:11] December
[3:13] 2024 so um Miss Miss haror provided us
[3:17] with information which is also in your
[3:19] packet towards the end to go over what's
[3:22] currently in
[3:25] contract so I thought that you know
[3:27] we're going to be doing probably some
[3:29] cross referencing with documents but I
[3:31] thought that was a good place to start
[3:33] just to kind of Revo that so everyone
[3:37] has that it's towards the end of the
[3:41] it's no this just this sheet that she
[3:44] printed out for us that was made it very
[3:56] concise
[3:58] than
[4:14] um so I just need to their question is
[4:16] going to probably come up about how much
[4:17] money is left and today Mr uh Google M
[4:21] said there was about $50,000 after all
[4:23] that's
[4:24] out after only $50,000 left is that what
[4:28] you well prior to our last allocation it
[4:30] was only 2.5 something so yes what's
[4:33] been allocated so that doesn't count
[4:35] what's still out there that if it's a
[4:38] possibility we be bringing it back but
[4:41] in terms of allocation that's what he
[4:43] said there
[4:49] was so we can go through these um
[4:52] discuss having any questions if um
[4:55] discussing any of them and then it it
[4:57] goes on to page two about about some
[4:59] other ones where there's there's asks
[5:01] for additional money but as I said right
[5:04] now he said there's a there's about
[5:09] $50,000 and there's some questions that
[5:12] well I'll wait till we get
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[5:20] there so everybody have you look through
[5:23] the first under in contract we're
[5:25] everybody's comfortable with those in
[5:28] contract okay
[5:30] um and then the next one is appending
[5:32] the contract draft which is Coco house
[5:35] and dcni Hamilton Hill inl project so I
[5:38] think that's pretty easy you could just
[5:40] go through that you know those are
[5:42] already handled
[5:43] basically and if you're in if you need
[5:46] want to know exactly how much money is
[5:48] allocated there's a chart on the front
[5:50] of this that tells you what's allocated
[5:52] to each
[5:55] project and do we need to go through
[5:58] that yes on resolution 22
[6:17] 214 so the and
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[6:21] 22224 the Miron Craig Street money
[6:25] 1.25 what happens with that well we're
[6:29] not there so let's um so let's let's kind of go through where they are
[6:36] on there it's just easier if we go
[6:37] through it as it is on the sheet that
[6:39] Miss uh that Miss Carver provided for us
[6:42] will she be present this evening she
[6:44] will not be not okay so miss dor you
[6:47] were saying that you want to know line
[6:48] by line how much money was allocated to
[6:50] each it's in the documentation provided
[6:58] great
[7:09] WC there's the
[7:12] scre and just keep in mind what what you
[7:14] have before you or ones that actually
[7:17] funding was allocated to right you're on
[7:20] page
[7:21] four right well just Pages four through
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[7:28] yeah resolution number 22 222 214 and
[7:34] 222 2022 224 those are the um resolution
[7:40] where we allocated the funding okay so
[7:43] City projects are under in contract they
[7:46] separate so um yes yeah the short answer
[7:50] is yes
[7:52] y there is one city contract I just want
[7:55] to bring forward to say that at this
[7:57] point in time uh um our chief engineer
[8:01] Mr Wallen says that Riverside
[8:04] Park they haven't really he there's
[8:06] money is set aside there's no plan right
[8:08] now so I just want to make you aware of
[8:10] that I hav't seen that how about it's on
[8:13] page nine so the Aquatic Cent on the
[8:17] second page that's gone yes we resed
[8:20] that we resented the money for the appli
[8:22] center that's
[8:26] gone yes Mr Williams m Mr C announced
[8:30] like U I know the money's allocated any
[8:33] plans or is he foreseeing any issues
[8:35] with Mr wow Mr
[8:37] W Mr W with regards to Riverside Park P
[8:42] says the money has been allocated but
[8:43] there's been no plan so right now
[8:45] whether there's the park committee is
[8:46] not meeting um I know that the mayor
[8:48] talked about a skateboard park I think
[8:50] down there um but right now there's no
[8:52] plan is what he said
[8:54] today I'm not saying that we're talking
[8:56] about moving the money now but I just
[8:58] want you to be aware
[9:08] okay so um so we're not the Central Park
[9:11] Pool obviously we're not talking about
[9:13] let's start with 20
[9:15] 214
[9:18] okay if that's easier for all right so
[9:22] we're not talking about the pool
[9:23] obviously at the golf course uh the
[9:25] money for the Aquatic Center was
[9:27] descended from that project um so now
[9:30] we're at Miracle on Craig
[9:32] street according to
[9:35] what M Carver has provided to us it says
[9:39] it's currently in the hands of
[9:40] Corporation Council so I would ask Miss
[9:43] um Mr barash what we is uh I just have
[9:47] to uh record the Deeds at the thir the
[9:52] returning the properties to the city so
[9:54] I just need to get to the uh county
[9:57] office to report the Deeds so that was
[9:59] an effec transfer I'm hoping to get
[10:01] there tomorrow
[10:04] okay and so um well we all know what the
[10:07] project was and we know what we
[10:08] allocated towards it
[10:13] and so I don't know if anyone has heard
[10:15] from other people but however I have
[10:17] heard from U others regarding um wanting
[10:20] the project to still move forward
[10:24] so yes M Williams yep so in line with
[10:28] that I would be very uh opposed to
[10:30] reappropriate those funds to any other
[10:32] projects uh definitely this um one
[10:35] project facilitates a really big need
[10:37] within that Community but also offers
[10:39] additional resources in addition to our
[10:41] boys and girls club uh I think everyone
[10:43] could appreciate uh I think Mr manini in
[10:46] your uh inauguration you you you
[10:48] highlighted uh the importance of the
[10:50] Carver Center and I think every year
[10:52] that that is not reinstituted uh is is I
[10:55] think a disservice to the community I
[10:57] think with this arpa funds
[10:59] uh very much this is generational money
[11:01] that we should use appropriately and I
[11:03] believe with this project it meets a lot
[11:05] of ass within the community um from
[11:07] myself I've heard informally about a I
[11:10] guess quote unquote Coalition that would
[11:12] be interested so I think I'd like to
[11:14] hear if anyone's reached out to the
[11:15] mayor um but definitely I'd like to see
[11:18] our best efforts to ensure that this
[11:19] project is still able to be uh pushed
[11:25] through there has been informal
[11:27] inquiries from the group that I believe
[11:29] is uh has the wherewithal to put a
[11:33] package
[11:38] together um Can to to keep it as a
[11:40] community center or for a different
[11:43] use a community center
[11:50] format a community center format can you just give me a little bit more
[11:55] there I'm not sure what that really
[11:57] means the initial Lor would be
[12:04] daycare and there's no other group
[12:05] that's approached you oh well okay I
[12:09] know there's another group that's
[12:10] reached out to your office so um just so you know that didn't happen in
[12:15] group reached out to me and it's not I
[12:17] did hear about the daycare group though
[12:19] as well but reached out to me and I
[12:20] don't know if any other council members get phone
[12:22] calls from any other groups no okay well
[12:24] there's those those two groups that uh
[12:27] reached out so Mr Williams has someone
[12:30] reached out to you as well yes not in
[12:32] regards to a daycare though okay so I I
[12:35] heard from both What were what was
[12:37] what's the other one to to keep it a
[12:39] community center for it to be a
[12:41] community center not with the U not with
[12:43] the daycare being the um anchor but the
[12:47] maybe the daycare could be a tenant as
[12:50] if we know about Carver before for those
[12:52] of you that don't know um Carver was a
[12:54] community center and there was a daycare
[12:56] in there so the other group talking
[12:59] about remaining as a daycare and having
[13:01] and excuse me remaining as a community
[13:03] center where um it stays a community
[13:05] center and they can have daycare
[13:06] services in there um and also in my
[13:10] thinking when we're talking about the
[13:11] Craig M connection I don't see why that
[13:14] could not somehow we could look at that
[13:16] and ask for some additional funding to
[13:17] do this project because it's right on
[13:19] cig street so that it stays um as commun
[13:23] set so that appar clearly there's some
[13:26] conversations that's going to be had
[13:27] around that
[13:31] did you have your hand up yes okay Mr so based on the conversation um there's
[13:35] two group that is in communication with
[13:38] Mr Williams
[13:40] mfield can you have those two groups
[13:42] submit a proposal and who are those two
[13:49] groups well I don't know if they're ready to I mean I we can I can
[13:53] tell you I don't know if they're they
[13:55] haven't said anything publicly so what I
[13:56] can go back to them instead ready to
[13:58] submit a prop proposal why don't we do
[13:59] it that way yeah I think that would be
[14:01] ideal is to have these two groups submit
[14:03] their proposal in writing mhm okay I
[14:06] think that's what we'll we'll do it that
[14:08] way as opposed to saying if this group
[14:09] if that group we'll ask them if because
[14:10] then we'll know if we get something
[14:12] formal from them then we'll know we can
[14:14] talk that once they submit their
[14:16] proposal then we can invite them to do a
[14:17] presentation to us
[14:21] right I'm sorry I'm sorry you had your
[14:23] hand up I'm sorry I'm just thinking
[14:26] about this um I have to say that I
[14:30] think I me that's that's a good chunk of
[14:33] change that we could be using in other
[14:34] ways for some of the other projects that
[14:36] have submitted money uh submitted you
[14:39] know requests for the funding um in
[14:42] light of the fact that we only have
[14:43] $50,000 left this is another you know
[14:46] whole pocket so I do hear what Mr Mudan
[14:49] is saying that I think that would be
[14:51] appreciated if we had a proposal or two
[14:54] uh to actually be looking at something
[14:56] daycare is certainly in need um um I'm
[14:59] not as convinced about the community
[15:01] center need given some of the other um
[15:03] opportunities that exist there
[15:07] um is it's when you say there I mean in
[15:11] that in that neighborhood in that area
[15:13] um but is it the same group that was
[15:16] doing miracle on Craig Street I mean do
[15:18] we know that the answer is no okay I'm
[15:22] not going to negotiate in public if you
[15:24] want to Executive session I'll give you
[15:27] the update of okay
[15:29] so like I said as Mr suggested we'll
[15:32] just ask them to submit the proposals
[15:34] anybody coming forward the reality is
[15:36] this project is about $2 million short
[15:38] if every dollar that's on the table now
[15:42] is put forward so somebody that doesn't
[15:44] have $2
[15:46] million yeah in a readily available
[15:50] funding stream I don't considering a
[15:53] serious Contender this okay as the
[15:54] council president pointed out we are
[15:56] under a deadline now
[15:59] of December 31st and the reality is you
[16:03] know it's really December 1st by the
[16:05] time anything is straggling out
[16:10] there
[16:12] Mr and that's what I was going to add to
[16:14] because if the groups that is is making
[16:17] calls they need to come forward with
[16:20] partners with Partners who's going to be
[16:23] coming to this project and exactly if
[16:24] you're if it's under $2 million right
[16:27] now on paper we need to get people
[16:29] involved in in you know organization or
[16:31] Foundation that is willing to commit
[16:33] additional money we can't just go what
[16:35] happened here
[16:37] unfortunate that we allocated $1.25
[16:40] million and there is no additional
[16:42] partners and we were we were told over
[16:45] and over that um this was going to
[16:47] happen that there people are there ready
[16:49] to to to jump you know on board and make
[16:52] um funding commitment and this project
[16:54] is still here with no other partners we
[16:56] do not want to go down this road again
[16:59] y Mr Char um I agree with what Mr mudon
[17:02] just said and the mayor brought up the
[17:04] timeline that we're working with
[17:07] yes the um and since the um the uh deed
[17:11] is coming back to the city I mean the
[17:13] city
[17:14] should again decide this
[17:17] 1.25 million should go into whatever the
[17:21] city's going to do to make this building
[17:23] I don't think we can exactly say that
[17:25] yet I think we have to look at
[17:26] everything that comes to the table so
[17:27] should we said deadline on the proposals
[17:30] um I mean we can ask for proposals but
[17:33] when you want them
[17:35] in are we March 31st was is our deadline
[17:38] well March the early the earlier we can
[17:41] get it is better because we're have
[17:43] we're in March already so the deadline I
[17:45] think was March 12th that we gave on a
[17:48] couple of the the couple of the
[17:49] exensions um is February 15th y so
[17:55] um the mayor did I mean mayor if you
[17:58] want reach out to I know I know both
[17:59] groups and so I know that you know who
[18:01] the other group is so if you want to
[18:02] reach out to them and um ask that and I
[18:04] will reach out to the other group so
[18:06] that we then will formally know that
[18:08] these groups really are
[18:11] interested okay yes Mr Willams and I I
[18:14] truly think it's worth noting I don't
[18:16] think we should be so quick to discredit
[18:18] uh the efforts of the original group
[18:20] that was foreseeing or managing the
[18:22] Miracle on CED project it was a a very
[18:25] uh I I appreciate the work that they
[18:27] were able to do up to this point uh they
[18:30] saw this project continue to be a focal
[18:32] point for a significant amount of years
[18:34] I think we all can agree to the fact
[18:36] that they weren't able to secure
[18:38] additional funding as the mayor
[18:40] recognized which is an important aspect
[18:43] of this but I really do uh value uh the
[18:46] work that they were able to up to the
[18:47] work that they were able to do up to
[18:49] this point and I think if there is any
[18:51] ability for our city to then put itself
[18:53] into uh this mix to ensure this project
[18:56] is saw through to its fruition I think
[18:58] again the community is only going to be
[18:59] the one to benefit and I think there
[19:01] were some barriers to uh other um
[19:05] Financial contributors um uh adding on
[19:08] to this project so hopefully with the
[19:10] backing of a coalition which would
[19:12] represent multiple organizations that
[19:14] might uh sway some additional funding to
[19:16] come to this um however I do agree
[19:18] though that our timeline we are up
[19:20] against the wall we do have the end of the year and I I do think if
[19:24] these Coalition if this Coalition is
[19:26] serious about coming forward I think is
[19:28] our responsibility to at least hear them
[19:30] out uh with an open and objective
[19:34] ear Mr M yeah if you're going to do that
[19:37] because we have to look at the Timeline
[19:38] I'm not sure when did we extend Aman CRA
[19:41] to March March 12th March
[19:43] 15 uh I think it's if we're going to do
[19:47] that we have to get this Coalition this
[19:49] group in prior to that because it's very
[19:51] important because we have another one
[19:53] also on March 12th that we going to go
[19:55] this this year so we need to um
[19:57] absolutely a Level Playing Field across
[19:59] the board in terms of are we going to
[20:02] extend and if we're not going to extend
[20:03] then we need toate the money into
[20:06] projects that's going to benefit
[20:08] us right and and so let me just and I
[20:11] know the people are talking about other
[20:12] projects but I also don't want to let's
[20:15] let loose sight of that the city is
[20:16] going to have to bond money so if
[20:18] there's money that we can reallocate I'm
[20:20] very much in favor in putting the
[20:21] projects that we don't have to bond
[20:23] because bonding means that we're
[20:24] borrowing and we have to pay back and if
[20:25] we can put it towards that I see that is
[20:28] a as a road to go down so I just want to
[20:30] make sure that you know we have the
[20:32] conversation about that because you know
[20:34] why borrow money if you and there's an
[20:35] opportunity or yeah to lower the amount
[20:38] that you're borrowing so just yes
[20:42] something just my my about the surveys
[20:44] that was offer on MAR is there something
[20:47] similar that is being done at CoCo house
[20:50] kind of similar no PO house is strictly
[20:53] about uh after it's like an after school
[20:55] PR after school program only yes that's
[20:57] all that it is and the um and so because
[21:01] I heard what you said so um if you if
[21:04] you're talking about the electric city
[21:05] Barn that's really a maker space and
[21:07] what has happened with Electric City
[21:09] Barn it was just a discussion because
[21:11] they had an event there the other night
[21:12] it turns into having to use it as a
[21:14] community center because there's a lack
[21:16] of the community center I guess I meant
[21:19] the programmatic aspects of what the
[21:21] community center at Caro had done and
[21:24] for example the programs for youth are
[21:26] definitely being offered by boys and
[21:29] girls club by Coco house um I mean you
[21:32] know these programs at the two library
[21:34] branches um I don't think during the
[21:38] school day right they they didn't have
[21:40] services for youth during the school day
[21:42] did they wouldn't it they did have a
[21:44] program if a child wasn't able to I mean
[21:46] we're really I mean we can go we can if
[21:48] we want to talk about that in really in
[21:50] depth they did have a program if a child
[21:51] was not able to stay in school because
[21:53] they were suspended there was a program
[21:55] where the children could go to the
[21:57] Carver and they wen't in a program I
[21:59] believe it was called the laer program
[22:00] so the answer to that question is
[22:02] yes so um but we will ask for the
[22:05] proposal so because I don't want to you
[22:06] know belabor just skip stuff on that
[22:08] particular
[22:10] one uh the city of skin jury
[22:13] foundation so this one and was
[22:17] one uh that I understand that it's been
[22:20] put on hold a May if you could speak to
[22:24] that we're still looking at the
[22:28] Empowerment Center in this project and
[22:31] I'm
[22:32] not up to date on what the actual
[22:35] negotiation are
[22:37] about possible merger cross utilization
[22:40] of some of the space or program
[22:42] development when you say this project
[22:44] which project do you
[22:46] make both of them Dua and the
[22:49] Empowerment
[22:51] Center so all right so we're not going to so the Empowerment
[22:57] Center Dury is contingent upon the
[22:59] Empowerment Center because that's not
[23:00] how they submitted their applications
[23:02] but is that what we're
[23:03] doing I'm not sure what we're doing it
[23:06] involved to something that separate from
[23:09] what the initial applications were all
[23:12] right so well we'll definitely have to
[23:15] take a look at that I'll ask
[23:18] Miss I'll ask Miss Carver about that
[23:20] because you know we're getting I anyway
[23:22] multiple and let's just so you know when
[23:24] people call me I give them all of your
[23:25] numbers and tell them to call you
[23:29] like you need to call
[23:31] everybody um so that would be a question
[23:33] for Miss Carver about yeah well I would
[23:36] like some um clarification as
[23:38] clarification on that yes
[23:42] so right from the start it wasn't a
[23:44] combined project between the two or two
[23:47] entities no it was not I see so I'm
[23:51] looking at the
[23:52] additional
[23:54] okay all right the conc foundation Sun
[23:59] connect uh for the healthy food
[24:03] access so are there questions regarding
[24:05] this one well I actually will say that
[24:09] right from the start it was also
[24:11] supposed to include concern for the
[24:12] hungry as you can see on the grid on
[24:15] page five and it just kept getting not
[24:18] put on to the other grid I think in
[24:20] every single meeting I kept saying what
[24:22] happened to concern for the hungry what
[24:23] happened to concern for the hungry so at
[24:26] in discussions that I had with previous
[24:28] Staffing in the development office
[24:33] um they basically had told me that and
[24:36] told concern for the hungry that the
[24:38] money that they had given to the sky
[24:40] Foundation um part of it was to be used
[24:43] for the
[24:45] transportation program that concerned
[24:47] for the hungry wanted to run but that
[24:48] never occurred so we got another um
[24:52] email recently from concerned for the
[24:54] Hungary as we went down this path uh
[24:57] still requesting funds um be allocated
[25:00] for the transportation program so I just
[25:03] wanted to put that back on the table
[25:04] because it didn't happen as part of this
[25:06] Coalition you can see it's on the grid
[25:09] here too right it's on this
[25:12] grid um so I just want to you know some
[25:15] hope that somebody would make sure that
[25:18] either this money part of the $950,000
[25:22] goes towards that Transportation program
[25:26] or I mean if we only have $50,000 left
[25:29] that's you that would be I think I think
[25:32] he the email that we got recently I'd
[25:35] have to go back and look but I feel like
[25:36] it was 40 or $50,000 right there that
[25:39] they were asking for does anyone I don't
[25:42] remember the the the number but um Mr M
[25:45] so so this one is showing on on this G
[25:47] here is in contract does that mean that
[25:50] contract was awarded for foundation s
[25:52] and
[25:53] Sun concern concerned for
[25:58] Foundation cover
[26:00] um so we we going to award 950 to
[26:05] Foundation we did they had the ability
[26:08] to draw down 950 as they develop the
[26:12] program I don't know what's actually
[26:14] been draw
[26:18] down um and in terms of uh I did also
[26:21] get the email for from the group
[26:23] concerned for the hungry and one of the
[26:25] um concerns was with their applic was
[26:28] the use of those particular funds I
[26:29] remember this from the is that they
[26:32] wanted to
[26:33] buy bu
[26:35] token and give them out to people yeah
[26:38] but what they what they were really
[26:39] doing was working with the network of
[26:41] food pantries and actually giving money
[26:43] to the food pantries that could then be
[26:45] given out as for example an Uber or ayt
[26:49] or whatever to people because it's such
[26:51] a ma major barrier um transportation is
[26:55] probably the number one barrier for
[26:56] folks that are using using various food
[26:59] pantries um because they can't get home
[27:02] with the bags of food it's very
[27:04] difficult for them to to do that so um
[27:07] so I think conf hungry actually ended up
[27:10] just using some of their own funds to
[27:12] continue doing that uh through the food
[27:15] pantry so they're not actually handing
[27:17] you know you or I um a bus token they're giving money to the pantries to
[27:23] be used for transportation and that's
[27:25] what they were still looking for f
[27:28] I have to review well first of all this
[27:30] needs to then if this is already in
[27:31] contract and supposed to be a part of
[27:33] that then we need to be talking to
[27:35] Foundation ask contact Foundation ask
[27:39] them to work with concern for the hung
[27:42] or maybe um ask the development
[27:46] office or we should go through the devel
[27:49] um office Development Office concerned
[27:52] for the Hungary requested a $100,000,000
[27:55] that's the most recent email yeah let's
[28:01] break so so so that's in contact they
[28:04] that's going to have to is anyone like
[28:06] are we holding anyone responsible to
[28:08] report back to us on how they're yeah
[28:11] appropriating this money it'll be part
[28:13] of the contracts that they would have to
[28:15] meet certain objectives and report back
[28:17] um on meeting those objectives the same
[28:19] as when we do the cdbg
[28:23] contracts so are you are you asking like
[28:25] are we doing or is Department of
[28:27] development development
[28:30] absolutely um the little leagues uh the
[28:33] Blue Jays so we know that a lot of this
[28:36] project was already done the money let
[28:37] me see yeah this money
[28:41] allocated mov forward is there is there
[28:44] anything left in that
[28:45] Alle the work that's largely been
[28:48] completed at Michigan Avenue but you s
[28:51] for Oregon Avenue that look to be done
[28:54] this season right so the money would
[28:56] stay there but now we need to do what's
[28:58] needs to be done at Oregon Avenue I was
[29:00] just speaking with the gentleman from
[29:01] Oregon Avenue out there so um can we have Alex find out how much
[29:09] money is left from that 350 well we can
[29:11] find that from yeah there was a
[29:12] resolution that we recently passed Mr W
[29:15] came for us for allocation for M
[29:18] Pleasant and there was like close to
[29:22] 170ish remaining about that don't quote
[29:24] me but somewhere resolution remaining
[29:28] towards Oregon Avenue so far they this
[29:31] is from 350 you all have the document as
[29:34] well 800 uh 88,000 has been 950 has been
[29:38] expended um and then you came for for an
[29:41] additional funding to bring that problem
[29:44] right yes so in with all with there's
[29:47] about half half um half they had spent
[29:50] about half yes so proba right there's an
[29:53] arbit analysis and it goes through all
[29:56] the programs and how much in
[30:01] sp there would be a lot of cross
[30:03] referencing into these documents
[30:04] actually are in communication because um
[30:07] when we discussed thatd when sorry when
[30:09] we had discussed that um at the city
[30:11] council meeting here they there were
[30:13] some emails back and forth to Mr wall
[30:16] and he is engaging on the folks at oron
[30:21] and the development of that
[30:24] part so so was was this 350 but they
[30:28] wanted and they spent a certain amount
[30:30] but they wanted to finish the wall and I
[30:31] actually drove by to see the wall and it
[30:33] did look a little unfinished until the
[30:36] additional um money was allocated so
[30:38] it's still from the same 350 but they
[30:40] allocated a certain amount over to
[30:43] um over to Michigan and then the rest
[30:45] will go over to air
[30:54] for uh seat Center is already in
[30:57] contract I do believe
[31:06] yes safe incorporate um is already also
[31:09] the safe house is already in contract
[31:12] yep the Green Market is in
[31:26] contract and we can go on to um the next
[31:30] resolution where that's where the rest
[31:31] of them are 20
[31:40] 20224 on page nine because the ones
[31:42] before the city
[31:45] projects so we already know that Jerry
[31:47] barell and the Central Park Pool and all
[31:49] that's those are City projects moving
[31:50] ahead um bcni for the uh foreclosure
[31:55] prevention is in contract
[32:00] uh they're calling it the infill project
[32:02] but I believe this is the same way as
[32:04] the um the own occupied weh have no no
[32:06] it's not take it that no it's not the in
[32:11] okay so the there's pending contract uh
[32:13] for the bcn I
[32:16] [Music]
[32:20] Hamilton and then the dcni owner
[32:24] occupied home repair and rehabilitation
[32:26] program is in contract
[32:28] [Music]
[32:31] MH Electric City Food
[32:33] Co-op is pending submission of preon
[32:37] contractual documents that's what it
[32:40] [Music]
[32:41] says I think the next turn this page it
[32:45] seems like it's easier to go this
[32:49] way back to the last said they are they
[32:52] in on this one they submitting um
[32:55] contractual documents that she she says
[32:58] it's pending submission of threee
[32:59] contracted documents the information
[33:01] from Miss uh Miss Carver
[33:04] Miss okay um let's see the Hamilton Hill Drop
[33:13] in
[33:14] Center can can we get some information
[33:16] on this one on the hamton hill drop iner
[33:18] no no no the electricity food for you
[33:21] want M car to give us some information
[33:23] yes sure that's what we because um
[33:25] submitting the contract is submitting
[33:27] the application documents I just want to
[33:29] know where we are that because they have
[33:31] to receive matching funds also here all
[33:34] right I think what we can do is as we go
[33:36] through these and find what we need then
[33:38] we can miss as Miss Carver to um provide
[33:40] that to us and we again think if we have
[33:42] just a meeting solely committed to this
[33:45] you could stay focused on that we can
[33:46] ask her to be here the next time the
[33:48] reality with that project is site
[33:52] control you have to identify the site
[33:54] where the building is going to go that
[33:56] is for
[33:57] [Music]
[33:59] situation you can't put a building up if
[34:02] you don't have a site that was the
[34:03] reason why I want to ask what the
[34:05] document is being submit because there
[34:06] is no there is no that's I want but it
[34:10] is March 12th I mean we did give them a
[34:12] deadline of March 12 um in terms of
[34:14] coming up the they needed and my
[34:17] understanding that Metroplex is working
[34:18] with them on that so for the yes so we
[34:23] have to find out where that is so
[34:24] hopefully we can get that in the next uh
[34:27] Tuesday maybe well we won't be doing
[34:30] this again on Tuesday no you can get
[34:31] some information at least to move from
[34:34] you know Tuesday so that would be
[34:36] nice Mar 12 is R the car yes it is so
[34:40] we'll ask Miss car then we she said
[34:41] another meeting to have her here as
[34:42] these things that we need some updates
[34:44] on and meet in short
[34:48] order is there more questions about the
[34:52] call all right on page
[34:55] 10 the hand hill art center is uh
[34:59] currently in
[35:02] contract in
[35:04] contract
[35:05] Center Coco house is pending their
[35:10] contract the Boys and Girls
[35:14] Club is let's make sure it's the right
[35:16] one Yep they're in contract
[35:19] MH why WCA
[35:23] is on this sheet okay needs the critical
[35:28] needs is the first one and that one's in
[35:31] contract and then the second one is the
[35:34] Harbor House on your paper on the one
[35:37] where it says uh pending submission it
[35:39] says ym but it really is the Y right and
[35:42] their ask is for
[35:44] $750,000 but as I recall didn't they
[35:47] come and ask for additional funding yes one point it was over 1.5 million I
[35:54] think it was the additional the
[35:55] discussions are still still when they're
[35:57] looking for arpa funding there may be
[36:00] other options with the overall funding
[36:03] of the rehab of that
[36:05] building so are you saying they don't
[36:08] they're not now asking for the
[36:09] additional 1.5 they're asking for it but
[36:11] I'm just saying that they're we don't we
[36:13] don't have it they're other looking at
[36:15] other scenarios and it's still
[36:18] finalizing what the exact numbers are
[36:20] going to be so they're going to be held
[36:22] to the same standard as everyone else in
[36:23] terms of meeting their
[36:25] contingency well that up the city
[36:27] council I'm trying to line up the
[36:29] funding for the project as a
[36:34] whole I think we need to hold everyone on the timeline because we have
[36:38] been backward to extend timeline unless
[36:42] ask you for a favor no no backward to extend these over and
[36:48] over I think it was not favorable when
[36:50] we extend it extend it and now we're
[36:52] asking at this point in time to extend
[36:54] it uh well you know I I have we got to
[36:57] be careful okay what we doing go ahead M
[37:00] um it's cut off a little bit on this on
[37:02] this sheet but are they one of the ones
[37:04] that we had the March 12th as a um we
[37:06] did not approve giving them more than
[37:09] the
[37:09] 750,000 no we did not they came but they
[37:12] did not ask we did not approve
[37:15] but I know there was more than one that
[37:18] had the 312 Harbor House is right here
[37:20] oh you trying to see what this is way up
[37:21] there um pending City for more funding
[37:24] requests yeah of 1.5 million that's what
[37:27] that said okay so but it didn't have a
[37:29] March 12th deadline or anything like
[37:31] that on this particular project I don't
[37:34] think
[37:36] so yes everyone of them I think they did
[37:41] oh okay well then um so so they're not
[37:45] asking us for the 1.5 anymore mayor
[37:47] you're oh yes they are oh yes they
[37:50] are okay I think they might be asking
[37:54] for a little bit
[37:55] more
[37:59] wellow we consider them we to have to
[38:01] consider other people that need short
[38:03] Falls wouldn't
[38:04] we we don't have any we don't have money
[38:07] anywhere we don't yeah we don't we have
[38:10] about $50,000 as well some of these
[38:13] agency needs to go to look at L other um
[38:16] opportunity for
[38:18] funding okay um so we're that was so
[38:22] that was a 750 and so we have any any
[38:25] more questions regarding that one
[38:28] I'm sorry I'm talking
[38:30] myself her inhabitat for Humanity is
[38:33] currently in
[38:37] contract still on page
[38:41] 10 and and scap um is in contract and as
[38:46] we recall we uh allow them an
[38:48] opportunity to repurpose the
[38:51] fundings Bethesda house is for $200,000
[38:56] currently in contract but they did come
[38:58] and ask for an additional I believe it
[39:00] was
[39:01] 200,000 to they up that to 300
[39:06] 400 yes I think up four Yes somewhere
[39:11] there
[39:12] yes not that's on top of the 200 that's
[39:16] correct oh four more mhm well I guess
[39:20] our answer to everybody is we don't have
[39:21] the money we only have
[39:23] $50,000 you can each have 10
[39:28] um so we did the Harbor House let's see
[39:32] Center bethesa
[39:37] house so they're asking for additional 400,000 you said
[39:42] mayor I I'll note it that's in the
[39:45] document yes I think is that the number
[39:47] yeah here yes it's
[39:50] $400,000
[39:52] okay we'll make not of that we leave on
[39:54] top of the 200 right
[39:57] extra
[39:58] 400,000 and yes Mr Williams I I think
[40:01] it's worth noting that a lot of these
[40:03] projects found that hey they can
[40:04] increase their capacity with additional
[40:06] funds so I think we and trying to repeat
[40:09] what uh councilman F would say is it's
[40:12] appreciating or uh not short sighting
[40:15] the good with the great so I think with
[40:17] the money we currently allotted we've
[40:18] done a lot of good within the community
[40:20] and I think as people are trying to
[40:22] expand to do more I think we're
[40:23] recognizing in the closing months of
[40:26] these allotments that essentially just
[40:28] the money is not available so I would
[40:30] like it for us to stay presently aware
[40:33] of We contractually There are projects
[40:36] that are well positioned to do a lot of
[40:38] good in the community and I think we
[40:40] should remain focused on that as we
[40:42] since you're having to tell certain
[40:43] projects there's no additional funds out
[40:45] there at this present
[40:47] [Music]
[40:50] time their project costs increased I
[40:52] think is what they're saying in their
[40:53] letters construction costs got higher
[40:56] than they expected by $400,000 my
[40:58] question would be to everyone that's
[41:00] asking for more money is this the only
[41:02] place you're
[41:03] coming if you have an additional let's
[41:06] say 400,000 are you just coming straight
[41:08] to to looking for the arbor funds or you
[41:11] looking for money other places because
[41:12] we can't be you know there there should
[41:14] be that diversity of looking for
[41:17] funds absolutely we should not be the
[41:20] only source of funding for for projects
[41:22] they need to go out and seek additional
[41:24] funding other agencies other
[41:26] municipality the county has funding also
[41:29] that they can tap into I mean I can't
[41:31] speak for all these agencies but I would
[41:32] think that their development staff their
[41:35] executive directors I mean just from my
[41:37] past experience working that they
[41:40] probably are looking for all sources and
[41:43] can I'm sorry I I do want to say I think
[41:46] when Miss Carver was here with one of
[41:48] the weeks that she was here I was
[41:50] heartened to hear that our office is
[41:53] also providing technical assistance to some of the agencies which I was
[41:58] really glad to hear that um you know
[42:01] they will use their expertise as well to
[42:03] talk to the agencies um but it might be
[42:06] worthwhile for you know us to host
[42:08] something at some point where we talk
[42:10] about diversify funding and sources that
[42:14] are available for nonprofits to be able
[42:17] to seek funding I mean that kind of
[42:19] thing but I I was thrilled that Miss
[42:21] Carver mentioned that um they are giving
[42:25] that kind of Technic assistance to our
[42:27] agencies I think the department of
[42:29] development has done that pretty
[42:30] consistently and especially around cdbg
[42:32] so I think that this is just just
[42:34] expanding it because it's more money and
[42:36] so we're just offering that so that's
[42:38] something that we have done before and
[42:41] talk about that they do have two two
[42:42] training schedule this month
[42:45] yes yeah wey on
[42:48] thata focus on cdbg oh the C then within
[42:54] cdbg you get people to look at other
[42:56] options that be out there for the need
[42:59] or project that they're trying to do or
[43:01] undertake yeah um all right so
[43:09] the on page 11 now the top of page 11
[43:12] the art center and theater connec doing
[43:14] business as PS as you recall they put
[43:17] they the the money that we allocated
[43:20] they submitted uh what they submitted
[43:22] was prior to the um actual Grant and so
[43:25] therefore res sended those funds however
[43:28] now we're now getting a
[43:32] letter did everybody get a copy of it's
[43:35] in your packet
[43:36] yeah okay so now they're asking that we
[43:40] uh we allocate the funds I guess based
[43:41] on what we've done with other groups and
[43:45] we and you know you took the money but
[43:46] then reallocated it to the same
[43:49] organization but for a different youth
[43:51] they're asking for the same
[43:53] consideration I would support that um
[43:56] that ask um because the you know it's
[44:00] their roof it's it's obviously giving
[44:02] them major problems and given what
[44:06] Proctors contributes to the economic
[44:08] development um of the city I thought it
[44:12] was a pretty valid um change of use I
[44:14] guess I don't know correct term but we
[44:17] have done it for some other
[44:19] organizations um in terms of changing
[44:22] what the original proposal was so I
[44:24] would support it I don't know what the
[44:26] rest of you
[44:28] feel uh I'm not opposed oh go ahead Mr
[44:31] where is that
[44:33] 76,000 in the 50 spend we haven't used
[44:37] it no so everything what is left is only
[44:41] what's been unallocated everything that
[44:43] you're seeing before you is considered
[44:44] an allocation so the 76,000 is not
[44:48] outfit so would be added to the right
[44:52] now the 50 okay it was rescinded and
[44:54] back into the bucket MH but we spend it
[44:56] out we only have
[44:59] $50,000 something some there's not even
[45:02] 76 so it's not 76 and wait and so the Returned money from the Kanas also
[45:08] mayor um went
[45:10] back I don't know that I don't know that
[45:15] necessarily did we resend the the they
[45:18] back themselves they did the project
[45:21] without our money right we looked at it
[45:24] internally not the 10 hous but took some
[45:27] amount of money could have the
[45:30] carpenters and City Crews build some
[45:32] picnic tables either for Parks or some
[45:35] of the other locations that they had
[45:38] uh thought they wereas program so let's
[45:42] just see if because um Mr B provided us
[45:46] with all these so let's just see if it's
[45:48] um on the analysis that
[45:52] he what we um what we need to do is to
[45:55] look at um Kanas and resend this money
[45:58] and keep it into the city because since
[46:00] the city is going to be doing the work
[46:02] we just reallocate it back to city that
[46:05] remove it officially from this I don't
[46:08] know if it's been pulled back or not we
[46:09] looked at but we wouldn't need the full
[46:11] 10,000
[46:13] yeah yeah it's in it's it's in here is
[46:16] the although the money is here yeah it's
[46:19] in but we send it no we they said we
[46:22] could have it back yes right but did we didn't do anything not do anything
[46:26] formal yet so we need to do a formal um
[46:28] amendment to this resolution to resend
[46:30] this money and and pull it back into the city bu um so I'm sorry mayor
[46:36] you said that the city is going to build
[46:37] these picnic benches I said we could
[46:40] that's part of that is the Staffing in
[46:44] January and February slower is the
[46:48] weather starts to warm up we may not
[46:50] have staff have the free time they're
[46:53] going to have other projects that they
[46:54] have to get P from but again if the
[46:56] council want to do that we could uh what
[47:00] they how many picking tables were they
[47:01] looking to build 36 I don't know what
[47:04] those sites are so we could look at
[47:08] putting those together and identifying
[47:10] sites where they would go either uh some
[47:13] of these pre-identified organizations
[47:15] are within the central
[47:17] park within the park System including
[47:20] Central
[47:22] Park yeah you I don't know if they
[47:24] decided where they wanted them
[47:26] um with you um and the other thing is is
[47:29] it because we would do it is it really
[47:32] going to cost 10,000 because we have
[47:34] larger capacity to buy materials Etc
[47:37] what I would saying is we only need the
[47:38] cost for the materials okay and I don't
[47:42] know and this is that is that one of the
[47:45] areas when they did these costs Lumber
[47:48] was one of the things where it went up
[47:50] dramatically during Co so
[47:54] that
[47:56] where say normally it would been 2500
[47:58] bucks is it 5,000 to covered or how many
[48:01] do we actually need or want to build
[48:08] right so we have to do the resolution to
[48:13] [Music]
[48:15] um all right um hold on so um just a
[48:20] comment on the practice letter uhuh I I
[48:23] don't I don't have an issue um funding
[48:25] 70,000 77,000 because the project is
[48:30] $255,000 and they're going to be um
[48:32] fronting all the additional money they
[48:35] did submit an application to us for
[48:37] 76,000 now we resend it because of the
[48:41] they paid for the work already
[48:45] so my suggestion is that we should hold
[48:48] this and see if we have additional
[48:50] funding that is coming back in that we
[48:51] might have to resend and then make this
[48:54] allocation I just lay that on the table
[48:57] okay and we should just also make sure
[48:59] that it's a cost that can be covered by
[49:01] arbra we just have to make sure that we
[49:03] definitely have to make sure that I bet
[49:05] it is because I'm not going to bet I'm
[49:07] going to read it up just in terms of
[49:08] what the original guidelines were this
[49:11] one not getting any money
[49:13] from I think this one really fit you get
[49:15] B at something oh I like what are you
[49:18] talking about this
[49:21] sorry going to have some more okay so um
[49:24] I agree with that but again we want to
[49:26] make sure that this is an appropriate
[49:28] use of the funds and we don't have any
[49:30] problems of getting money clawed back Mr
[49:33] Williams you a question yes or um I had
[49:36] a question a comment so to the Proctors
[49:38] I think you're asking where each council
[49:39] member are kind of hinted that I I agree
[49:43] and I think based on the context of how
[49:45] we reevaluate other projects I think the
[49:47] only difference is just as of now we
[49:48] only have the 50,000 but I I would be in
[49:50] agreement with reevaluating it later or
[49:54] um committing to 50 ,000 that we do have
[49:56] now um but then secondarily I know we're
[49:59] talking about Kus and just wanting to
[50:01] add two comments at once um I think part
[50:03] of the selling point for me or what I
[50:05] appreciated with the project was that it
[50:07] was youth driven so the only thing I
[50:09] would ask as mayor would it be
[50:10] appropriate for the uh Carpenters to
[50:13] partner with one of our local
[50:15] construction agencies and I think 36 is
[50:17] a big number especially if Lumber is
[50:19] going up but I think even if we scaled
[50:20] it down I think just delivering on some
[50:23] would be a nice win especially for our
[50:25] parks yeah it's possible to make
[50:27] something work yeah we should probably
[50:30] add it to the rebuilding of the Mount
[50:32] Pleasant welcomeing
[50:34] s
[50:35] oh you're not in off
[50:38] trouble exactly you really want to go
[50:41] down that
[50:46] road you can talk to L about that t
[50:48] we're not talking
[50:50] about all
[50:52] right okay okay oh
[50:56] speaking of Mount Pleasant so Father Jim
[50:58] had put in for uh the kids in Mount
[51:00] Pleasant to have $50,000 allocated for
[51:03] his basketball court up in that up on
[51:05] Pearl Street so I'm putting that out
[51:08] there because he did resend a letter to
[51:10] us in
[51:11] uh oh to reconsider his application in
[51:15] SE October of last year um to reconsider
[51:19] his his uh original application yes
[51:23] fully name of Jesus on the church
[51:25] parking lot not not a park right right
[51:28] not right no the little it's triang in
[51:33] front of the church there's a little
[51:36] island or kind of there and what his
[51:39] proposal was apparently kids throw
[51:43] footballs out there play baseball
[51:46] whatever and his suggestion was to put a
[51:50] basketball poop up the backboard that
[51:54] EXC the church would help maintain it
[51:58] monitor it and uh police it is this city
[52:01] own property that we're talking about
[52:03] yes main Wing in Pearl streets
[52:06] yeah I can't pick picture EXA so it's so
[52:11] it's a city owned property and he wants
[52:12] to put up a hoop essentially and paid it
[52:15] what
[52:17] no he's an intricate part of that
[52:20] neighborhood in Mount Pleasant with a f
[52:22] Pantry no no no I'm I'm just saying and
[52:24] that's that's why he still keeps
[52:25] advocating for it for the kids um now my
[52:28] daughter lives right there on Pearl so
[52:30] I'm very familiar with with that whole
[52:32] little section there and and what the
[52:34] pastor Jim Father Jim does over there
[52:36] but I don't know what it looks like but
[52:38] um you know in a city owned property I
[52:40] think we have to take that in
[52:41] consideration if that's I just don't I
[52:44] can't picture it so I can't really speak
[52:45] to I just want to bring that forward
[52:48] again that he's consistently
[52:50] sent application and also if the city is
[52:53] doing major other projects it's if this
[52:56] is just Paving okay is it is it
[52:58] something that we could just do without
[53:01] striping make par it probably has some
[53:04] striping for right the same like they're
[53:06] doing on other Parks is there something
[53:07] that we could do in addition to when
[53:09] we're already doing other Parks it could
[53:11] be but they put it in application
[53:13] originally and then asked us to to look
[53:15] at it again we have to take into conf we
[53:17] have the park and tent Avenue con fre um
[53:20] or chart par and then we have the one at
[53:23] um kation Drive
[53:25] so this are all part that can be used
[53:27] because we have spent a lot of money but
[53:29] upward of40 $50,000 to outfit um those
[53:33] par and the last one was a Orchard Park
[53:35] a lot of money was spent there and all
[53:37] these equipments are in there so you can
[53:40] go there and participate and you know
[53:42] enjoy um those
[53:47] equipments so there was oh there it is
[53:49] holding
[53:51] in so they are facility that they can
[53:54] use in M pleas
[53:57] just putting for if it's something I I
[54:00] don't know that I I'd have to see it
[54:01] because it's hard to speak to something
[54:03] you can't see if it's something that I'm
[54:05] just concerned if about sometimes we see
[54:07] these basketball court hoops and there
[54:09] they end up being in the right away and
[54:10] all of that so I'd have to like kind of
[54:12] see what that looked like um and just
[54:16] bring forward on his behalf for the kids
[54:19] in Mount F that's what he told me
[54:21] today as Mr M said there are a number of
[54:24] parks there but it's certainly
[54:25] consideration I would like to actually
[54:27] um to be able to see it and make sure
[54:29] it's not in the right way because
[54:31] sometimes we do have that with
[54:32] basketball hoops and we now well I won't
[54:35] mention because we've had people bring
[54:37] you know do other facilities that
[54:39] weren't publ were weren't under the
[54:41] city's control and then it was built
[54:43] anyway so we do need to take a look at
[54:45] that The Stockade
[54:50] Association um so that was money that we
[54:52] originally uh assigned to the stock
[54:55] Association then we sended the pro we
[54:57] send it to the because the city was
[54:58] doing the project and see how much we've
[55:02] spent on that
[55:08] one I don't know it's showing
[55:15] here
[55:18] okay
[55:21] uh man I thought that there was some
[55:23] work done there and I see that I don't
[55:24] see any
[55:25] [Music]
[55:26] there was some work done on the outside
[55:29] to
[55:30] uh help secure the building but I don't
[55:35] know what the so are they are they
[55:37] calling it the North Street uh Pump
[55:39] Station now as opposed to stock
[55:41] association yes well that's what the
[55:43] building was they were going to do it
[55:46] then they've expended
[55:48] $177,000 so far and that makes sense
[55:52] it's in repair for Windows and okay P so
[55:56] that project is still moving forward to
[55:58] that City now well it's
[56:02] still come the final utilization of the
[56:05] building so you go in there there there
[56:08] not a floor you know you have a a well
[56:10] that drops down to the lower level so
[56:14] what do they want to do with it you want
[56:15] to put a floor across it you want to use
[56:17] it as a some type of community
[56:20] room public bathrooms Visitor
[56:23] Center
[56:26] okay and anything about the basic
[56:30] repairs of that building I don't believe
[56:32] this allocation is going to be enough to
[56:35] cover all the expenses
[56:39] okay so you're U you're saying what the neighborhood is asked for you
[56:44] don't think you the funding bets
[56:46] allocated going that some of the ask is
[56:49] still a little bit vague so it's to
[56:51] finalize that to come back to the
[56:53] council the counc approve it and then we
[56:56] actually move forward
[56:59] to either do some of the work in house
[57:01] some More's going to have to be bit out
[57:04] and a contractor brought in to do the
[57:06] work so I'm going to put down for the
[57:08] stock Association that we're going to we
[57:10] need that I thought they sent that
[57:12] several times but you can ask
[57:16] again
[57:19] see I think in terms of the um the
[57:21] allocation so far that is we've all
[57:24] covers everything um we did get an
[57:29] additional all of us got a letter from
[57:31] the Y
[57:34] MCA uh Black and Latino achiev
[57:37] program asking for
[57:40] $100,000 uh but I think that what we've
[57:42] said so far is that right now there's there's no money out there plus
[57:46] it was a new plus well that one was
[57:48] Brett new H that was a new ask so the
[57:52] event so we probably don't want to go
[57:53] down there right I'm sor sorry which one
[57:55] I said so was the events that are a new
[57:56] ask so we I don't think we can use that
[57:58] as a a saying someone that this is a new
[58:01] ask we just really don't have the money
[58:03] right now there just isn't money there
[58:06] um and if we well that's always been a
[58:10] concern for me if we if we open the door
[58:12] which Mr Farley did ask us to open the
[58:13] door again a year several months back
[58:16] and we said we weren't doing that in
[58:17] terms of um entertaining um new
[58:19] applications although we have done that
[58:22] in a way so
[58:26] um the letter was to you mayor did you
[58:28] want to respond to
[58:30] them in terms of this it's what was to
[58:34] both of us let me just they all over our
[58:38] you it's up to the city council as to
[58:41] what you
[58:43] do well at this point in time I think
[58:45] our response is currently we don't have
[58:47] any um additional funding um but we have
[58:50] to really consider even if we did were
[58:52] we willing to consider it that we need
[58:54] to be really open and honest about that
[58:56] there's no point in saying it's not
[58:57] because we have money and then we get
[58:58] money back and then what so we have to
[59:01] be open and honest about whether or not
[59:03] this we're um going to be entertaining
[59:06] other
[59:16] applications no opinion well of course I
[59:19] T well I mean I mean there were both of
[59:25] uh original applications obviously no
[59:28] one's not too many have thought that
[59:30] there wouldd be money resend it and and
[59:32] come back for an ask on there should I
[59:35] mean should we put that out there if we
[59:37] do get extra money you know is there
[59:39] anyone put an original application but
[59:41] no one seems to be knocking our door
[59:42] down you know as far as original on so I
[59:46] guess whatever comes in if there's any
[59:48] money left we'd have to
[59:50] consider because we do have a lot of
[59:52] applications that from the original list
[59:55] which I'm looking at that never made the
[59:58] first
[59:59] cut so what do you
[1:00:01] say I don't know I don't have an
[1:00:05] answer Mr Williams well I think the
[1:00:08] difficult answer is we we can't
[1:00:09] entertain any new projects and I think
[1:00:11] it's unfortunate but I think if we look
[1:00:14] at the process it was for the planning
[1:00:15] and development office to get to this
[1:00:17] stance it is a considerable lift and I
[1:00:19] appreciate the Investments that Miss
[1:00:21] Carver and her team has done to
[1:00:23] continuously give us up stes that is not
[1:00:25] without the effort and that's in
[1:00:27] addition to the work that they're doing
[1:00:28] now uh so definitely I want to give her
[1:00:30] office and the mayor kudos for getting
[1:00:33] us to this point now um but
[1:00:36] unfortunately should we even have the
[1:00:37] money are they and a ready status to be
[1:00:40] able to proceive with contracts and are
[1:00:42] they in a geared of stance and I don't
[1:00:44] want to soon know um what to miss
[1:00:46] porterfield's question do you want to
[1:00:48] give that false hope uh so I think there
[1:00:51] was conversations previously about any
[1:00:53] unallocated money going to address the
[1:00:56] issues with uh not having to proceive
[1:00:58] with bonds and I think that's an
[1:01:00] appropriate measure uh again we did make
[1:01:03] considerations for projects that submit
[1:01:05] projects or that didn't submit
[1:01:07] applications I.E the um U multipurpose
[1:01:11] uh Arena and I I can very much
[1:01:13] confidently say that if anyone ask me in
[1:01:15] the in the community I think that is a
[1:01:16] similarly use if not better use than the
[1:01:19] Aquatic Center so that's how I can
[1:01:21] justify it but for a new project I fear
[1:01:24] having to reopen that whole pipeline
[1:01:27] because unfortunately we'd be doing it
[1:01:28] for one or two projects and then so I
[1:01:31] truly would not want to to open our
[1:01:33] Council up to just it would be a hard no
[1:01:36] for a lot of people and I think that
[1:01:38] would put us in in a very uh a
[1:01:40] precarious
[1:01:44] situation Mr V well I think we should
[1:01:47] take a look at you know projects that
[1:01:49] are all in good standing and the money
[1:01:52] that's left over and then look at those
[1:01:54] project projects and maybe we we'll
[1:01:55] allocate it to those agencies that that
[1:01:58] priorities that we select are in those
[1:02:01] areas that are important to our communy
[1:02:03] and maybe offer them opportunities to
[1:02:06] expand their application and
[1:02:07] [Music]
[1:02:12] program
[1:02:14] yes I I think
[1:02:16] also we can also you know encourage
[1:02:19] people to go to those
[1:02:20] cdbg meetings that are coming up as well
[1:02:24] and consider putting in applications for
[1:02:26] cdbg and we can also encourage people to
[1:02:28] look at other funding
[1:02:29] sources no yeah no I I know I you know I
[1:02:33] mean I think that's I think that we
[1:02:34] really have to be honest with the people
[1:02:36] that come to us for money and and make
[1:02:38] some of those suggestions um because we
[1:02:40] don't have a a
[1:02:42] never-ending um pool of money we simply
[1:02:45] do not so I think we're doing them a
[1:02:47] disservice when we continually um if
[1:02:50] we're not at least asking them you know
[1:02:53] are there other ways or
[1:02:56] um something Mr mudaron brought up
[1:02:58] before if there's way that they can
[1:02:59] combine the services that they do I
[1:03:02] don't think we're you know that's going
[1:03:04] to matter at this point in time but um
[1:03:06] sticking with the YWCA what MCA rather
[1:03:10] what becomes our response to them
[1:03:12] because they did write a letter suggest
[1:03:14] asking and um if we're not even going to
[1:03:17] be entertaining uh additional
[1:03:19] applications I think we should just be
[1:03:20] up front and let them know that and
[1:03:22] respond to that and and and uh and close
[1:03:25] that door as opposed to letting them
[1:03:28] think that could
[1:03:29] have and saying there's no there's no
[1:03:32] funding funding left but you know we're
[1:03:34] looking leaves the door open in my
[1:03:36] opinion to that oh if we get funding
[1:03:38] maybe we'll look at your application and
[1:03:40] I don't think that's what I'm
[1:03:41] hearing Mr yes um we the last time we
[1:03:46] discussed I did discuss this the last
[1:03:48] have to kind of put some suggestion out
[1:03:50] there last year we did um fund um
[1:03:53] through the budget um don't the exact
[1:03:56] number but the youth program through the
[1:03:58] school 150,000 and in this year budget
[1:04:01] we have another $150,000 allocated so is
[1:04:05] a school going to use all that money and
[1:04:07] can we have them partner with the city
[1:04:09] and the school to kind of tap in so what
[1:04:11] they're doing the school and the city to
[1:04:13] kind of work together rather than us
[1:04:15] have a pocket there and a pocket there
[1:04:17] just make sense so that's something I'm
[1:04:19] going to tr again and to bring them to
[1:04:21] the table and then discuss because I'm
[1:04:22] sure their money from last year to they
[1:04:24] spend this year we can we bring them
[1:04:28] in and let them be a
[1:04:32] partner you program with the youth
[1:04:35] employment I thought that was our summer
[1:04:37] you
[1:04:38] know so that's something we are not us I
[1:04:42] don't think we're going to be using all
[1:04:43] that money we
[1:04:47] could well it was basically all used
[1:04:50] whatever was allocated in the 23 budget
[1:04:53] and then and again if you don't use it
[1:04:56] it's just rolled into the final numbers
[1:04:58] going forward it's not like it's sitting
[1:05:00] there in a separate pot yeah I I think
[1:05:02] we we need to bring them in and let
[1:05:04] them have a discussion bring I'm sorry
[1:05:08] YCA cuz I think they already partner
[1:05:11] with the school district on the
[1:05:12] blacktino aiers program but yeah yeah
[1:05:16] they already partner with the school
[1:05:18] district right at this money $5,000 is
[1:05:21] for program through the school
[1:05:25] it doesn't say that's a question I don't
[1:05:27] know what it's for 100,000 isn't it
[1:05:30] working with the school directly but
[1:05:32] it's recruit kids to work really for the
[1:05:36] city and the parks and activities during
[1:05:38] the
[1:05:40] summer so with this 100,000 I didn't I
[1:05:43] for me it wasn't clear exactly what they
[1:05:45] wanted they said they just wanted
[1:05:46] programmatically but there I didn't see
[1:05:48] a budget attached and I don't know
[1:05:50] exactly what the use
[1:05:52] was but you that's pretty it's kind of
[1:05:55] General so that's I'm saying we need we
[1:05:58] need to bring them in and to kind of you
[1:05:59] know sit to the table and talk about
[1:06:01] this program with the Department of
[1:06:02] development with the mayor's office and
[1:06:04] see if they can be separate from the s
[1:06:06] yes separate separate so is that a
[1:06:09] responsibility of ours or is that I'm
[1:06:11] not
[1:06:14] sure it's all our
[1:06:17] responsibility but I mean the 150 that's
[1:06:19] in the budget is for summer youth
[1:06:21] employment that hire those those
[1:06:23] students you say 50 or50 150 that's not
[1:06:26] the YMCA that is the money that the city
[1:06:29] uses to hire youth to work in our Parks
[1:06:32] so that's how we maintain our our
[1:06:35] programs that we're doing in the parks
[1:06:37] in the summer so let's not think about
[1:06:39] that 150 this 100 in terms of this
[1:06:43] program it is very generic in the letter
[1:06:46] uh in terms of what are they asking for
[1:06:48] but it would be to support the actual
[1:06:50] program itself which provides a you know
[1:06:53] I mean provides all sorts of stuff but
[1:06:55] this it's a great program yeah it is
[1:06:57] it's outstanding I can't I can't
[1:06:58] disagree with that um we're going to
[1:07:01] need lifeguards yeah no we we can't
[1:07:03] touch that 150 for this program I guess
[1:07:06] all those things all those things to add
[1:07:08] up this year for next year it's not only
[1:07:10] in the Parks or somewhere else but we
[1:07:14] canot widen the scope of um the youth
[1:07:17] employment so what you saying oh add
[1:07:20] $100,000 to what we already put into the
[1:07:22] 150 I'd be all in favor of that but I'm
[1:07:25] just saying um I I just don't want to
[1:07:28] combine I don't want to confuse that
[1:07:30] this ask is similar to our Summer Youth
[1:07:32] Employment Program no no no I'm not
[1:07:34] saying we need to find out bring them to
[1:07:36] the table and find out what what they're
[1:07:37] trying to do is it similar to what is
[1:07:39] happening on this program we don't know
[1:07:42] it's not it's not specified in that I
[1:07:45] was on the reworking the numbers for the
[1:07:48] new swimming pool and the pools during
[1:07:51] the summer with the boys and girls club
[1:07:53] we don't hire the those directly we
[1:07:55] contract Boys and Girls Club to manage
[1:07:58] those facilities think it's the same
[1:08:01] thing John kids whether they're yeah
[1:08:03] working for the city or working for the
[1:08:04] boys and girls out there but it's just
[1:08:07] how you actually match up the numbers
[1:08:09] yeah and the only reason that I'm coming
[1:08:12] back at this is because I do think
[1:08:14] listening to what um Miss Porterfield
[1:08:16] said we don't want to lead them down the
[1:08:18] track of thinking that we have $100,000
[1:08:21] that we could give to them so bringing
[1:08:23] them in to describe the program I mean
[1:08:25] it's an awesome program um but I don't
[1:08:28] think that we have money to give to them
[1:08:30] but if you wanted just learned about the
[1:08:32] program sure
[1:08:34] but I think that's what I heard you
[1:08:36] saying right that you didn't want to
[1:08:38] give you false hope I do not um and Mr
[1:08:41] yes yeah I don't think it it will hard
[1:08:43] because we're going to bring in to other
[1:08:44] groups to discuss about the miracle how
[1:08:46] we follow with the miracle say is it
[1:08:48] something totally true we are yeah but
[1:08:50] that's but it's also very different that
[1:08:51] money is already there yeah so that's
[1:08:54] very different that those aren't apples
[1:08:55] and apples those are apples and that way
[1:08:57] we able to understand the program more
[1:08:59] and we know exactly what they going be
[1:09:01] doing so we decided to fund them down
[1:09:04] the road we know exactly uh why we're
[1:09:06] funding them um I would suggest that we
[1:09:09] ask for them to provide something a
[1:09:10] little bit more in writing um and then
[1:09:14] also
[1:09:16] is I don't know where their hous
[1:09:18] connected does anybody know that
[1:09:19] disconnected YMCA the YMCA yeah they are
[1:09:22] YMCA so is that is cdbg a place that
[1:09:26] they could also ask for this funding I I
[1:09:29] believe so but it's been years since
[1:09:30] I've applied for cdbg funding so I can't
[1:09:33] remember the parameters tell everybody
[1:09:35] go funding but um I do would you have
[1:09:39] that kind of specific
[1:09:42] idea well I would say generically they
[1:09:45] can it always gets down to the specific
[1:09:47] details and which category it's coming
[1:09:49] out so some things you might sit here
[1:09:53] and say oh yes would qualify when we
[1:09:54] actually do the application and say oh
[1:09:56] no it's not or we reach the cap yes
[1:09:59] other
[1:10:00] program four categories right so Mr M
[1:10:03] you you you know you really talk about
[1:10:05] I'm good at just submit more documents
[1:10:07] or makeing them in person that's fine I think way is okay with me but I just
[1:10:11] need to know more of what they're doing
[1:10:13] and the areas that going to be covered
[1:10:15] because we don't want to duplicate we
[1:10:16] have seen over years that sometimes we
[1:10:19] duplicate the service and we have talked
[1:10:21] about that over and over outcome you
[1:10:25] know so Ian we can ask them but I I um I
[1:10:29] just want to have to we have to talk
[1:10:31] about how the word it but I just want to
[1:10:32] know we just want to know more about it
[1:10:34] that there's no we're not making any
[1:10:35] commitments we have to definitely know
[1:10:37] we're not making any commitments because
[1:10:40] we'll be in the newspaper saying we made
[1:10:41] a commitment um we also need um I mean
[1:10:43] all of us including myself we'll invite
[1:10:45] them to the this um cdbg presentation
[1:10:48] for them to attend those seminars uh to
[1:10:51] equip themselves and to understand CBG
[1:10:54] program so if they're qualified they can
[1:10:56] set applications
[1:10:57] [Music]
[1:11:07] mhm Okay so we've come to the end of all
[1:11:10] the ones that we said um that we've
[1:11:13] allocated money to and we've gone over
[1:11:16] what we you know those things we need
[1:11:17] additional information from Miss Harver
[1:11:20] um or from
[1:11:22] the mayor's
[1:11:25] office as an fi um sure you were looking
[1:11:29] at we did modify the resolution so
[1:11:31] include a concern for Hunger at one
[1:11:34] point in time so it's in this package
[1:11:36] yeah langage no it always it was in some
[1:11:39] of this it wasn't in all of it it
[1:11:41] just not sorry what they're saying is
[1:11:46] that they've not been included no not
[1:11:48] been included that that's a conversation
[1:11:50] that happens
[1:11:51] with with the uh no not us it's not us
[1:11:55] that didn't include them that's not what
[1:11:57] they're saying the umbrella of the what
[1:11:58] they're saying Mr M is that when they
[1:12:00] got over to the SKC Foundation they were
[1:12:02] left
[1:12:04] out that's that's what is being said so
[1:12:07] we they we need to any conversation
[1:12:09] needs to happen with this connected
[1:12:11] foundation and also you know we'll talk
[1:12:12] to Miss Carver I think that's what my
[1:12:14] name I think that would be a good idea
[1:12:15] for Miss Carver yes I think that is what
[1:12:17] my
[1:12:18] name I will speak to miss car regarding
[1:12:21] that yes
[1:12:26] are there other things out there that um
[1:12:27] in terms of the allocations that people
[1:12:30] and we so then we'll um we'll s another
[1:12:33] meeting however but go ahead I'll any
[1:12:36] other yes Mr Williams uh just for a
[1:12:38] point of clarification it seems like
[1:12:40] there's three projects to um that are
[1:12:43] still open or that we're still uh
[1:12:46] waiting for more information um the
[1:12:48] first is the Carver Community Center um
[1:12:51] the second is the the uh empowerment SL
[1:12:55] Center and then the last is the Harbor
[1:12:57] House um so I think for myself just
[1:13:00] wanting to be clear I think we kind of
[1:13:03] hit or address this issue in a number of
[1:13:05] Fashions but again it's like
[1:13:06] entertaining new projects I think
[1:13:09] following up on what Mr manini said it
[1:13:11] was how do we bolster what's currently
[1:13:13] been allotted and then I think
[1:13:15] secondarily but also very importantly is
[1:13:18] uh evaluating positioning a lot of that
[1:13:20] money towards bondings or preventing
[1:13:23] bondings in the future but I think we're
[1:13:25] waiting for updates on those but those
[1:13:27] seem like they're the only questionable
[1:13:29] projects waiting for we still have the
[1:13:32] March 12th deadline on them as well so I
[1:13:34] would add that one to the list so the
[1:13:36] one that we were out there were Miracle
[1:13:39] oned the um Empowerment Center rash is
[1:13:42] jury jury Foundation y um there's a
[1:13:45] question about um the the identity
[1:13:48] Foundation the funding for the um
[1:13:50] accessible food $950,000
[1:14:00] [Music]
[1:14:01] um well I did mention that the Riverside
[1:14:03] Park had no plan even though there's
[1:14:05] money allocated fors it just want to
[1:14:06] make sure that's um there the Electric
[1:14:09] City Food
[1:14:12] Co-op uh Bethesda house is asking for
[1:14:15] additional
[1:14:17] $400,000 the um Proctors is asking to
[1:14:22] reallocate their money but there isn't
[1:14:24] enough money right now so we talked
[1:14:25] about revisiting that uh the Kanas
[1:14:29] return the money we have to do a
[1:14:31] resolution in order to take the money
[1:14:32] back and the mayor said that's something
[1:14:35] that we can that that is a project we
[1:14:36] can do at in house we should look at
[1:14:38] where they really we're planning on
[1:14:39] putting those and the stock Aid
[1:14:43] Association um we've spent some of that
[1:14:46] money because we we did take the money
[1:14:47] back from the stock from the we couldn't
[1:14:49] give it to the stock Aid Association
[1:14:51] because it's a city own property so the
[1:14:52] city is is taking the money back is
[1:14:54] doing the project and we do need we need
[1:14:56] to get final information from the stock
[1:14:58] a associations what the mayor is saying
[1:14:59] in terms of what they really want to do
[1:15:02] [Music]
[1:15:04] there see if I
[1:15:08] have just want to add to Mr Williams was
[1:15:11] talking just about um whatever money we
[1:15:13] can be send back Rel Ed towards projects
[1:15:16] so that we don't have to borrow I just
[1:15:17] want to highlight an example of the
[1:15:19] tennis court that we just recently
[1:15:20] awarded contract we allocated 00,000 the
[1:15:24] project is costing us about 672 th000 so
[1:15:27] there is
[1:15:28] $172,000 right here G and going forward
[1:15:31] with the city project I am more than
[1:15:34] likely most C project will go overrun so
[1:15:38] we have to consider that so kind of keep
[1:15:40] some funding here to help out s those
[1:15:42] over overs us kind of coincide about you
[1:15:46] talking I so those are two things that
[1:15:49] we need to consider
[1:15:52] seriously most of these project if not
[1:15:55] I'll will overrun great and let me just
[1:15:58] also say we should not always be the
[1:16:00] people that are getting giving all for
[1:16:01] the overruns I'm going to repeat that
[1:16:02] over and over again there needs to be
[1:16:04] other places where they're getting funds
[1:16:05] getting money for their overruns no I'm
[1:16:07] talking about directly City oh just city
[1:16:11] project talking about resending the
[1:16:14] money bring it back keep it the house
[1:16:15] and look at the city project where we're
[1:16:17] getting um these project needs to get
[1:16:19] done and able to fund if they overalls
[1:16:22] we need to fund them
[1:16:25] those as well in terms of the
[1:16:27] projects can either go through the
[1:16:29] budget which I see you have your I have
[1:16:31] everything I
[1:16:33] know um but I mean we could easily
[1:16:35] probably just get all this I think
[1:16:36] that's really smart to use the money
[1:16:38] towards the city projects no and this is
[1:16:40] a prime example I mean $500,000 we were
[1:16:43] saying back when we awarded this that
[1:16:45] 500,000 might be you know the ball fig
[1:16:49] but 172,000 but just but def that's a
[1:16:53] good example because what Mr Wallen has
[1:16:55] said is that the USA is going to be
[1:16:57] looking for that additional funding and
[1:16:59] that's what we want to see yeah that we
[1:17:00] don't come back and say how we have to
[1:17:02] fund it so that's what we want to see
[1:17:04] that we allocated this it's more so this
[1:17:06] group that really wants the money is
[1:17:08] going to try it's trying to figure out
[1:17:09] how to get the additional fund that as
[1:17:11] we said at the last meeting well this is the only lucky
[1:17:14] project well we have to encourage
[1:17:17] projects to be more like
[1:17:19] that think the umor I think the comment
[1:17:23] just looking at the the Empowerment
[1:17:25] Center dur
[1:17:26] Foundation um I I just would question
[1:17:29] the wisdom of spending 100 I'm $875 for
[1:17:32] building rehab and 200,000 for training
[1:17:36] um Workforce Development I think is at a
[1:17:39] critical juncture in our communities
[1:17:41] especially for those in disadvantaged
[1:17:43] communities and just rebuilding or
[1:17:45] building a new program $200,000 left a
[1:17:49] program will maybe serve 20 youth mhm
[1:17:52] young people
[1:17:53] and I can you know and and all you know
[1:17:56] transparency I work at a job training
[1:17:57] agency and I see the challenges our
[1:17:59] young people have and trying to get them
[1:18:00] into the
[1:18:01] workforce it it's it's difficult and
[1:18:04] challenging so I would just question the
[1:18:06] wisdom of spending this much money on a
[1:18:08] building and then 200 on the actual
[1:18:11] program it takes significant effort to
[1:18:13] get these young people in a good
[1:18:15] direction a positive direction get them
[1:18:16] in the workforce a significant amount of
[1:18:19] programming and support um it's not just
[1:18:21] showing up and going for train is
[1:18:23] helping them with housing mental health
[1:18:24] issu subst issues all that wraparound
[1:18:27] services Albany the city of ALB is
[1:18:29] dealing with that we're dealing with
[1:18:31] that so I would just you know my comment
[1:18:33] would be maybe to re look at that and and maybe invest in in what some
[1:18:37] folks that are currently doing that and
[1:18:39] help them build those Community Support
[1:18:41] so these young people can be successful
[1:18:43] so let me just lend a little
[1:18:44] clarification to the Empowerment Center
[1:18:47] the empowerment said the money was was
[1:18:48] not just for youth it was going to be to
[1:18:51] help mwbe and training that is what that
[1:18:53] was for within the um within Hamilton
[1:18:56] Hill Neighborhood where many people
[1:18:59] don't get on the projects that are there
[1:19:01] so that is what the Empowerment Center
[1:19:02] was about it wasn't it wasn't just for
[1:19:04] youth is that what the incubator used to
[1:19:06] do was it developed for well that's gone
[1:19:10] through a lot of lifetimes it's not an
[1:19:12] incubator anymore right so that was the
[1:19:14] focus and this this particular um
[1:19:16] application actually came out of our um
[1:19:18] affirmative action office right here in
[1:19:19] the city of skincity I mean in in City
[1:19:21] Hall so that was that was not just to
[1:19:24] take Youth and train them but it was for
[1:19:25] mwbe and um and to make sure that they
[1:19:29] get their skills I I believe there was
[1:19:30] also any of reading some of the emails
[1:19:32] we're getting there was also they were
[1:19:34] talking about trying to um help people
[1:19:36] to get to Public Service fire in
[1:19:39] particular so they were working with 100
[1:19:41] black men on that so they were trying to
[1:19:43] get those those the kind of things that
[1:19:44] were supposed to take place in the
[1:19:45] Empowerment Center not just um not you
[1:19:48] because quite frankly the Empowerment
[1:19:50] Center and the um youth training program
[1:19:53] came as two separate applications but
[1:19:55] then they were merged somewhere along
[1:19:57] the line so that's what's the build the
[1:19:59] build on the addresses here at the
[1:20:01] building that kind 18 Aly
[1:20:07] Street it used to be the M you remember
[1:20:10] mtap yes okay well it was map's uh final
[1:20:14] home before it closed down so this was
[1:20:17] again trying to sort of kind of
[1:20:19] replicate some of the services that map
[1:20:21] was offering which hasn't happened since
[1:20:24] make tap close that was the purpose of
[1:20:26] the Empowerment
[1:20:30] Center um the other thing that we said
[1:20:32] we would talk about at this meeting was
[1:20:34] um when we allocated the um money for
[1:20:38] the um Event Center we asked if there
[1:20:41] would be a uh could be a community
[1:20:43] benefits agreement that was agreed upon
[1:20:45] and so um I ask all of you to you know
[1:20:49] bring to the table any uh any ideas or
[1:20:51] concerns or what you'd like to see as
[1:20:53] part of that so if we could just have
[1:20:56] that discussion anyone had I I do have
[1:20:59] some things I always have to go
[1:21:01] first but so are there anyone in terms
[1:21:04] of um having an opportunity to look at
[1:21:06] Community benefits agreement anything
[1:21:07] they'd like to bring
[1:21:09] forward Mr Williams I love going first
[1:21:14] so um I in my research uh I found that
[1:21:18] it is not um improper for elected
[1:21:20] officials to um push forth uh cbas also
[1:21:25] and so I in my research found three
[1:21:27] areas that I think would would meet what
[1:21:29] I would expect um the the neighborhoods
[1:21:33] to support and how we can intentionally
[1:21:35] write in areas for them to benefit from
[1:21:36] this project moving forward so the first
[1:21:38] of which was all cves they kind of speak
[1:21:41] towards having a group of stakeholders
[1:21:43] so I'm not professing that I know every
[1:21:45] local organization in the community that
[1:21:47] would benefit from being at the table
[1:21:49] but the ones that I could remember were
[1:21:50] uh Sun uh United neighbor just obviously
[1:21:54] they're position to support the needs of
[1:21:56] our local communities uh sium SE safe Inc uh Sun SKC and the SKC City
[1:22:02] School District to serve as validating
[1:22:05] agents for incoming events and what I
[1:22:08] thought that would help identify is
[1:22:10] ensuring that events or or uh uh I guess
[1:22:13] entertainment venues that came to our
[1:22:15] community our community felt like they
[1:22:17] had the ability to Advocate similar to
[1:22:19] uh the community um policing panel and
[1:22:22] how it sits in conjunction with the
[1:22:24] scany police department to advocate for
[1:22:27] uh the neighborhood and in no way what I
[1:22:29] imagine they would have the soul power
[1:22:31] to say no um but I think positioning
[1:22:33] them to be a part of those conversations
[1:22:36] uh is is something that could Empower
[1:22:37] them and then also make them more vested
[1:22:39] in incoming events as well uh the second
[1:22:42] was um I I am not a event planner but I
[1:22:45] imagine they're going to be days uh
[1:22:47] throughout the month where there is
[1:22:49] unused or less frequent frequented uh
[1:22:52] times for events to be conducted so what
[1:22:54] I would like to see is a monthly or
[1:22:56] quarterly listing of unused time that
[1:22:59] could be offered to the community at an
[1:23:01] adjusted at an adjusted scale and then I
[1:23:03] imagine the gusi group that is a PO
[1:23:06] profit organization would want to put a a uh a limit or a threshold on that
[1:23:12] but I think that that would allow the
[1:23:13] community residents to be able to
[1:23:14] utilize that space that we are uh
[1:23:17] contributing a considerable amount of
[1:23:19] their quote unquote uh dollars from this
[1:23:21] arpa um moving forward and then lastly I I always try to identify a youth scope
[1:23:28] I would love to see two paid internships
[1:23:31] or uh it does needed amount of
[1:23:33] internships offered to our high school
[1:23:35] students per year uh specifically around
[1:23:37] like operations management or just
[1:23:39] business analy strategic operations and
[1:23:42] that way it would then create that
[1:23:43] pipeline for some of our uh very bright
[1:23:46] and talented uh individuals that attend
[1:23:48] schools in our local school district
[1:23:50] that have uh this opportunity to work
[1:23:52] closely with individuals on then we can
[1:23:55] agree that it's on an elevated level um
[1:23:57] to just see and understand that you
[1:23:59] don't have to leave this community to uh
[1:24:01] start your professional career and it
[1:24:03] might help us just Identify some some
[1:24:05] bright stars to position them and
[1:24:07] similar positions moving forward so
[1:24:08] those are my three
[1:24:12] recommendations okay so some kind of
[1:24:15] what that because I actually uh went to
[1:24:17] community members I didn't try to take
[1:24:18] it um like off from what I thought
[1:24:20] because I think it's important you know
[1:24:22] when we at the other the event I asked
[1:24:23] people at the event what would you as a
[1:24:25] community like to see so um one of the
[1:24:28] ones is currently apparently uh Union
[1:24:30] has specific times where they bring kids
[1:24:33] into skape like so that to for that to
[1:24:36] be a part of um to be a part of the and
[1:24:39] now it's not little longer at Union so
[1:24:41] for that to be a part of the community
[1:24:42] benefits agreement say make sure that stays in place my understanding is
[1:24:46] there's also skating lessons as as that
[1:24:49] are part of that so to for that to um
[1:24:51] also stay in place um he already talked
[1:24:55] about sliding
[1:24:57] scales and um then uh this individual
[1:25:01] and asked about having incorporating an
[1:25:04] art gallery within the arena just having
[1:25:07] art from local artists or whatever and
[1:25:09] having it not not painted on the walls
[1:25:12] Mis don't misunderstand but local
[1:25:13] changing exhibits yeah changing exhibits
[1:25:16] like within the arena and that's
[1:25:17] something people can enjoy when they
[1:25:18] come um then they said Hall of Fame
[1:25:21] induction I guess they just having that
[1:25:24] there and um but I think soccer is one
[1:25:27] of the things that we're going to play
[1:25:27] that's on my list um so a person who
[1:25:31] cares about the walkability of skincity
[1:25:33] wants to make sure that there are bike
[1:25:35] racks because not everyone's going to
[1:25:36] drive to get
[1:25:38] there and and this um actually just came
[1:25:41] today when there there were two people
[1:25:42] here from the brick lers and they're
[1:25:45] concerning this may be something
[1:25:46] actually that goes into the contract
[1:25:48] that's drawn up um they were concerned
[1:25:51] about local contractors being able to
[1:25:52] work on the project and since since they
[1:25:54] were here I wanted to make sure that I
[1:25:57] um brought that forward they we had an
[1:25:59] opportunity to speak to them in the
[1:26:00] hallway Mr M and I do there anything you
[1:26:03] wanted to add to that Mr M no I I think
[1:26:05] that's SP we will uh redirect them to um
[1:26:09] the relevant um Personnel right so they
[1:26:11] can have conversation in terms of the
[1:26:14] GIC group in terms of um discussion and
[1:26:16] how they can able to ATT the work force
[1:26:19] there but so but just to just to know
[1:26:22] that I and I I don't know that we don't
[1:26:24] have any saying that I'm not sure about
[1:26:25] that but I think that uh you know we
[1:26:27] should be able to make sure that we have
[1:26:29] as many um local contractors if that's
[1:26:31] at all possible and I did address the
[1:26:34] mwbe portion when they were here to uh
[1:26:37] answer a question but just to be clear
[1:26:40] um what was said was the only part of
[1:26:43] the mwbe specifically was the 10 milon
[1:26:46] from esdc although they plan to do
[1:26:49] beyond that so um but the mwbe it's not
[1:26:54] and the local contractors May were
[1:26:56] probably not only be M mwbe so just so
[1:26:59] you know there local contractors are
[1:27:01] concerned about being able to work on
[1:27:02] the project and that the money stays
[1:27:04] locally so I think that's information
[1:27:06] that needs to be that's relevant to for
[1:27:08] all of us to know we didn't all have a
[1:27:09] chance to talk to them they thought they
[1:27:11] were coming tonight to actually have
[1:27:13] that discussion and so we didn't want
[1:27:15] them to wait through the whole thing and
[1:27:17] so we let them know that that's not the
[1:27:18] discussion that we were going to be
[1:27:20] having and that's not for us to make
[1:27:22] those decisions so just want to make
[1:27:24] sure that um that you all knew that um
[1:27:28] does anyone else have anything at all in
[1:27:29] terms of the community benefits
[1:27:31] agreement I'm just going to add to the
[1:27:32] ESD ESD project we as a council should
[1:27:36] encourage our MB contractor to meet with
[1:27:39] thec group to kind of work with them to
[1:27:43] into the workforce there because EST is
[1:27:46] very serious about nwb
[1:27:50] requirement uh I've course have
[1:27:52] knowledge with it so you know so we can
[1:27:55] able to work with them to direct them to
[1:27:57] where they need to go to and able to um
[1:28:01] follow up and make sure that they have
[1:28:03] the relevant um information to make it
[1:28:06] happen we and we know that you know we
[1:28:09] had a contractor who's come to us a
[1:28:11] couple times in the last couple months
[1:28:12] who has said that you know he he lives
[1:28:14] in sky but he doesn't get to work in
[1:28:16] Connect so um we should definitely do
[1:28:21] that
[1:28:23] are there any other
[1:28:24] um anything else with the uh Community
[1:28:27] benefits agreement any other ideas or
[1:28:29] thoughts that people had that they
[1:28:30] wanted to be able to bring
[1:28:32] forward well I do think that the aspect
[1:28:35] of you know Youth Sports and the kinds
[1:28:38] of lessons I do think that you know
[1:28:40] there should be that kind of recognition
[1:28:43] of how do we how do we work that in in
[1:28:45] terms of who gives lessons or or that
[1:28:48] type of thing so I think maybe a
[1:28:49] collaboration with the school district
[1:28:51] as part of it
[1:28:52] um might be the way I don't know how to
[1:28:55] word these things or you know that kind
[1:28:57] of thing but I think certainly a
[1:28:59] partnership with school district around
[1:29:01] the use of
[1:29:03] um The Event Center at part of the time
[1:29:06] for these kind of Youth Sports
[1:29:09] opportunities um would be an important
[1:29:11] piece um so I I like I like the ideas
[1:29:15] that um Mr Williams brought forth
[1:29:18] especially the internships I think
[1:29:20] that's a really interesting idea I think
[1:29:22] that if there is going to be a
[1:29:23] stakeholder group to help think about
[1:29:26] this community benefits um I'd want to
[1:29:28] have more input into who might be a part
[1:29:30] of that group um what what the reasoning
[1:29:33] would be on you know how you pick those
[1:29:36] stakeholders um and then
[1:29:40] uh yeah I think Proctor should probably
[1:29:43] be at some you know be at the table
[1:29:45] because there was some issue at the very
[1:29:47] beginning of the discussions about the
[1:29:49] event center so it would be good to have
[1:29:51] rep represent you know to make sure
[1:29:53] there's no I think they would probably
[1:29:55] want to be at the table as well as part
[1:29:56] of that state grou is what I'm saying
[1:29:59] and just want to make sure that I think
[1:30:01] discover conect is probably already
[1:30:04] involved with the project but again
[1:30:06] because part of it is going to be able
[1:30:08] to be used for conferences maybe there's
[1:30:10] a way again if the school district for
[1:30:12] example was wanting to host a conference
[1:30:14] of other Educators maybe there could be
[1:30:17] some sort of significant discount or or
[1:30:19] something like that um around conference
[1:30:23] planning mayor and Council looking to
[1:30:26] have these things apply to Proctors also
[1:30:30] city has a lot more money invested in
[1:30:32] Proctors 2 and a half million we're
[1:30:34] going to put in the sub Center well
[1:30:36] that's a good point I had is so are we
[1:30:39] asking the proes for a community
[1:30:40] benefits agreement is that what you
[1:30:42] that's what I'm asking give them some
[1:30:44] money you know is it just this sole
[1:30:47] project or is this something we're
[1:30:49] looking to apply across the awarded
[1:30:52] yes well for me this it was this
[1:30:54] particular project um we're awarding
[1:30:56] funds and there's also going to be a
[1:30:58] pilot which is minimal taxes hey Mr um
[1:31:01] buo said that himself so when I brought
[1:31:03] it up it was around this the only other
[1:31:05] community benefits agreement that I'm
[1:31:06] aware of that we ever did was with bcni
[1:31:09] when they were doing the Elmer Avenue
[1:31:11] project so and I know that Pro already
[1:31:14] does a number of things in terms of
[1:31:15] discounting tickets Etc and so on so um
[1:31:18] I'm I'm quite aware of
[1:31:20] that yes Mr T I'd like the took the
[1:31:24] words out of my mouth so um I haven't
[1:31:26] thought of anything that I'd like um for
[1:31:28] the um Event Center to have but as far
[1:31:31] as Community benefits agreement I mean
[1:31:33] we've handed out money and we haven't
[1:31:35] put these stipulations on anyone else
[1:31:39] Community benefits agreements generally
[1:31:40] go with development projects development
[1:31:43] projects that's what they usually go on
[1:31:44] with so not not agencies and
[1:31:47] organizations but development projects
[1:31:49] but again I you you know I I don't
[1:31:53] understand why we're just specifically
[1:31:54] sticking to to the harbor to the event
[1:31:58] center I mean who are we that say you
[1:32:00] know that they should give a discount to
[1:32:04] um you know events coming
[1:32:07] IDE but I they're a business they're
[1:32:10] running a business um I'd like to see
[1:32:12] you know um there's adults who skate
[1:32:15] there's adult sports things like that so
[1:32:17] on down times I would like you know
[1:32:19] those things to happen um so those are
[1:32:21] things that you want to see in there is
[1:32:23] that what you're saying sure
[1:32:24] so open SK for yes may and I'll try and
[1:32:29] get skating lessons for the city
[1:32:34] council I want like three blades on the
[1:32:37] bottom of mine good so I just
[1:32:40] want yes Mr mtiv yeah just to address
[1:32:43] some of the the tal Point um some of the
[1:32:45] agency that we funded within the
[1:32:47] community they already within the
[1:32:49] community so it's they benefiting the
[1:32:52] community the service that they're
[1:32:53] providing to the residents is also part
[1:32:56] of that Community benefit that they are
[1:32:59] providing already so there's nothing
[1:33:01] more to add to that other than they
[1:33:03] providing us the report the outcome to
[1:33:05] show that they actually spending the
[1:33:06] money and the money is being spent
[1:33:08] wisely and the outcome is um is there
[1:33:11] and it's whatever set out to achieve
[1:33:14] right so you know okay can attach any
[1:33:17] Community benefits to those agency when
[1:33:19] already Serv a community I think when Mr buo was here making his
[1:33:23] presentations both times he talked about
[1:33:26] wanting this Center to have a community
[1:33:28] benefit so I don't think that I think
[1:33:31] obviously he they'd be involved in these
[1:33:33] discussions we were just coming up with
[1:33:35] some possible ideas but he clearly made
[1:33:39] it seem that he was interested in this
[1:33:42] being a
[1:33:43] Community Union College wants to do you
[1:33:46] look at that site they do the harbor
[1:33:50] series which is free there's
[1:33:53] no you do the fireworks so again they
[1:33:57] want to complement the good things that
[1:33:59] are happening here in the community and
[1:34:02] have broad-based support and so it's uh
[1:34:06] some of it is not to as we sit here
[1:34:08] tonight we won't necessarily be able to
[1:34:11] see all the opportunities or scenarios
[1:34:13] that will present themselves as we go
[1:34:16] forward and the utilization at that site
[1:34:19] uh continues to increase and uh
[1:34:23] yes Mr Williams and then just as a point
[1:34:25] of clarification because Mr detor you
[1:34:27] said it time and time again I would say
[1:34:29] as council members we were elected to
[1:34:31] represent the best interest of the city
[1:34:33] so I think with regards to this project
[1:34:35] again um during the presentation it was
[1:34:38] clear that wanting to ensure that the
[1:34:40] community benefit was at the Crux of of
[1:34:43] this project and my understanding of
[1:34:45] community benefits agreements is that
[1:34:47] they just clearly outline so that it is
[1:34:49] transparent the expectations moving
[1:34:51] forward and again as what the mayor
[1:34:52] highlighted it's a recommendations this
[1:34:54] is a conversation so in no way does what
[1:34:57] we dictate going to be the end all be
[1:35:00] all that again is a conversation um but
[1:35:02] again I do think we are the individuals
[1:35:04] best suited based on our uh roles to
[1:35:09] Advocate and and so it's going to be
[1:35:11] conversations negotiations and there's
[1:35:13] one thing that you did not that you
[1:35:14] brought up at the meeting that you can
[1:35:16] bring up tonight Mr manini and that was
[1:35:18] when if something happened if there was
[1:35:21] where people could gather
[1:35:23] disaster emergency preparedness yeah so
[1:35:26] you did bring that up and was waiting
[1:35:28] for that but well I I was going to wait
[1:35:31] this that that you know part of it is
[1:35:33] they
[1:35:34] work I was let everybody else doing okay
[1:35:38] I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah you know that they work closely with the county
[1:35:42] and the city event planning but also the
[1:35:44] Emergency Management event that we would
[1:35:45] need that as a site that they would be
[1:35:48] available and it was you the other idea
[1:35:50] is working with the city school district and be open to working with a
[1:35:53] nonprofit network if they had to want to plan events that they'd be a
[1:35:57] good Community partner in
[1:35:59] that um and so again I you know and it's
[1:36:02] been said time and time again that the
[1:36:04] gy group um Mr bua when he was here said
[1:36:06] that um because this is not the gesi
[1:36:08] group it's what's the name of the group
[1:36:10] what's the name of it mayor the name of
[1:36:12] the um
[1:36:19] company properties right so the so they
[1:36:23] U on their behalf because he is a
[1:36:25] partner in the in that particular um LLC
[1:36:28] is he said that they wanted to they were
[1:36:30] willing to do to the community open to
[1:36:31] the community to do things so we're not
[1:36:33] asking anything outside of what they
[1:36:34] said they were doing we're simply saying
[1:36:36] we'd like to make it in writing and
[1:36:38] that's what business people do they put
[1:36:39] things in writing so I don't think we're
[1:36:41] going above and beyond or asking for
[1:36:43] more than they already committed to um
[1:36:45] when they were here so um that's that's
[1:36:48] why we're looking at this so um the for
[1:36:51] me to follow will be that we'll get all
[1:36:52] the notes from today we'll put them
[1:36:54] together bring them for the council and
[1:36:57] we have to move forward in terms of um
[1:36:59] meeting with whe the representatives are
[1:37:02] from the gesi group because I don't know
[1:37:03] that they're going to say that
[1:37:04] everything that we ask no no um it's
[1:37:08] going to be there but I think that we
[1:37:10] should that doesn't mean that we
[1:37:11] shouldn't ask and then we'll sit down
[1:37:14] and have those conversations about what
[1:37:16] that could look like so I think it's
[1:37:18] reasonable and and that's how we should
[1:37:20] move forward
[1:37:22] we're going to put all this information
[1:37:23] in the draft can we discuss it with them
[1:37:26] prior to us bringing it oh to the
[1:37:30] council you don't want to you don't want
[1:37:31] to see it all in one concise place first
[1:37:33] yeah we want to see everything together
[1:37:35] but can we discuss it with the G group.
[1:37:39] LLC partnership whatever and kind of
[1:37:42] work with them to make sure we have it
[1:37:44] document they working doent or do we
[1:37:46] want to discuss I think we should bring
[1:37:49] our information together and so we can
[1:37:51] look at what we talked about tonight and
[1:37:53] make sure we're there before we meet
[1:37:55] with them to make sure we're clear on
[1:37:57] what we really want to ask for and that
[1:37:59] we've articulated it well well you might
[1:38:01] they might have things that they want to
[1:38:02] put through oh no no I'm not saying that
[1:38:04] they won't you don't want to like U
[1:38:05] preempt it and say well you discuss this
[1:38:07] and then we're going to go to them now
[1:38:08] this why our work is on the same level
[1:38:11] work with us to get all this information
[1:38:12] in the draft work with them to kind of
[1:38:14] look it over and bring their suggestion
[1:38:16] and then have one draft for us to
[1:38:18] officially discuss I think a really good
[1:38:21] idea I think I think bringing them back
[1:38:25] again we were just sort of brainstorming
[1:38:28] agreement too right so our wording
[1:38:30] should not conflict with the count y we
[1:38:35] can I can ask for a copy from the from
[1:38:39] the
[1:38:40] county and we can look at that we should
[1:38:43] definitely look at that but and and and
[1:38:45] so we can ask we you know I think that
[1:38:47] we do have to definitely um ask what
[1:38:49] there for me Comm benefit AG we're
[1:38:51] asking them for to agree to certain
[1:38:53] things I don't know that and for them
[1:38:55] it's will they will or not agree as
[1:38:57] opposed to them wanting to do say what
[1:38:59] is what they want in the community
[1:39:01] but
[1:39:03] so yeah kind of way I'm thinking back
[1:39:07] when we did the first one for the El
[1:39:09] project was back and for that we had to
[1:39:11] you know if you remember I I don't think
[1:39:14] I was yeah you were on the
[1:39:16] council couple of us yeah it was back
[1:39:19] and forth it was back and forth back and
[1:39:20] forth until because we we drafted they
[1:39:23] didn't get a chance and then they review
[1:39:24] it come back to us and it was like we
[1:39:26] can avoid that by having you know shared
[1:39:28] information across the board and um give
[1:39:30] them an opportunity look at what the
[1:39:32] county has and able to merror our draft
[1:39:35] like similar to the county and think can
[1:39:37] I run it to them well and I'll reach out
[1:39:40] to Mr I guess buo tomorrow and just tell
[1:39:42] him that if there's we are discussing
[1:39:44] this if there are things that they would
[1:39:46] like to see as part of it and U Mr M
[1:39:48] you'll get a copy of the counties yes I
[1:39:50] will right and I will sh to the they
[1:39:53] already have done that sure mayor have
[1:39:55] they already completed theirs count yes
[1:39:59] okay we definitely okay so
[1:40:04] um that's our next steps
[1:40:08] yes oh I thought your hand was up okay
[1:40:12] is there anything
[1:40:13] else he a motion to a
[1:40:19] Jour huh I ra I raised my hand all right
[1:40:24] second second Mr M no City development
[1:40:29] and planning committee oh one two three
[1:40:32] oh yeah yes G you did that
[1:40:36] okay so you made the motion I'll second
[1:40:39] all
[1:40:43] favor you always
[1:40:46] call you didn't read that thing I'll get
[1:40:48] it I
[1:40:49] did
[1:40:52] that no you need no we need the big one
[1:40:55] that's that's
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