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Council committee meeting for uh Tuesday

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February 20th

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20124 um I'd like to uh call City

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development planning first then we'll

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recess because uh Mrs Carver has a uh

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training that she needs to go to all

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right so like

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plan good

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evening um since we last reported on our

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arpa for our arpa updates COC house

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contract is complete and pending review

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from the mayor's office as well as bcn's

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contract um still pending some of the

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pre-contractual requirements are the w y

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Co-Op Electric City Co-Op is 95% there

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they just don't have sight control yet

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so um more information to come with that

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um Miracle on Craig um is still

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currently in the hands of Corporation

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Council I don't know if Maxine has a

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update on where we are um it has been

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deposited for recording today um it will

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take about a week or two for us to get

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confirmation of

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preparation thank you um the bees the

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house um we are still waiting

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for a decision from City Council on

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their additional ARA fund request of

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400,000 um the same for

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YMCA they are asking for the 100,000 to

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support the black and Latinos Achievers

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program we also have pending the YWCA

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who asks for additional arpa funds of

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million um as of February 16th um our

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affirmative action officer has asked um

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to make a change with the arpa funds for

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the Empowerment Center he would like

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that to go towards

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programming um so I'm not sure if I

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should move forward with the legislative

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request um to city council but I did put

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it on here just for items to discuss

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and last but not least is the create

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Studios um received the email um from

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city council president asking me to do

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some research on an application um that

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was deemed lost so we were able to

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retrieve that application and now we're

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waiting for an updated application with

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current dates current budget to submit

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to city council for

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consideration all right all right um so

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we some of the stuff we covered like the

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Y Ember asked for the 100,000 we talked

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about the fact that we don't have we

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don't have 100,000 left for that so um I

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I at the time I asked the mayor if we

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need to just write a letter back but our

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decision on that was that we're going to

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be going to we're going to be coming to

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you with this that our decision on that

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was that we would just send them a

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letter and say we don't have the money

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um but please you know provide

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additional information is what Mr moodar

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said he would like to hear about about

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their program um the Bethesda house we

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we talked about it but we have we have

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to come to you Miss Carver that our

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meeting was on Thursday to um to follow

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up with all the different different

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things that we

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need and the same goes with the Y WCA

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first hearing about this uh

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so it's about what's one 1 million

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something there asking for the entire

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thing to go to program so I think that's

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something for more discussion we'd have

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that is Dury's

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application it is empowerment

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application that was combined with Dury

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but they want all the money to go to the

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programming mhm which D's money already

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is allocated for programming and so

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for um that was not all the way clear in

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application dar's application um was

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really about construction um fixing part

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of their property it wasn't programming

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but somewhere along the lines these

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applications got intertwined with each

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other or me any more clarity is Patrick

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I thought that the um part of the grant

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that was um the Empowerment Center was

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um I didn't get that it was construction

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have a building let let me clar clarify

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D's original ARA application not

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Empowerment Center D apply for arpa

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fundings right to fix up property that

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they own to offer

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services right to offer some programming

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between these applications they got

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combined and D was assigned to offer the

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programming for Empowerment Center okay

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so the piece that is um the uh 88 Albany

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Street is off the table then it sounds

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like he's he's asking to to move

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forward from that property so I'm not

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clear on but I guess um I guess the

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mayor could speak more about what

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happened with the Empowerment

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Center it's not formally off the table

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yet but just the cost estimates are too

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high so there has not been a formal

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on how you would do the conceptual

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delivery of services if you don't have

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that building and some of the last

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discussions were uh is the ability to

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maybe move some of that into the Miracle

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on Craig concept now that is shifted and

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so I would still treat it as a dynamic

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review on how

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to preserve some of those things

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conceptually and then actually be able

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to implement them

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within uh physical space that we

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have but right now we don't have

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physical space forre anything correct

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those pre-identified sites there may be

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other things that you could work at the

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community college it's complimenting

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some stuff the seat Center does the

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school district has some program that

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they're doing and so I don't

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preclude ongoing discussions with any of

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those entities to see what we can do

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that gives us the most value for the

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dollars I think that the idea of the

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Empowerment Center was trying to kind to

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take take over what map used to do and

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keep it keep it kind of neighborhood

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based which so everything you talked

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about is like so people would have to

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like um you know go outside of that so I

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think that was part of the reasoning

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behind the um Empowerment Center did you

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have your hand up M yeah was just saying

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of these two projects was because there

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was some alignment and kind of what they

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you know wanted to offer um now being

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that um well I guess we'd have to just

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wait for more clarity as to where the

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Empowerment Center is so that we can

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make a more informed decision on how to

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move forward I just think about how the

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Empowerment Center not was not being

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exactly clear as to what the next steps

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are how does that impact a and should we

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look at maybe separating the two or

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maybe kind of to what the mayor was

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saying we look at maybe even encouraging

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a third even fourth partner to kind of

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fill fill Gap I was just wondering you

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know what we think about that and if I

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may add um Madam president when we heard

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from our affirmative action officer at

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the last meeting he did present that we

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are doing some of the programming um

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currently it is funded with cdbg G funds

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and it is not enough so we are we do

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have a deficit between the program that

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we're offering what those expenses are

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and what the affirmative action office

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um was allotted for this calendar year

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okay so the deficit and program fund

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from cdbg

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correct so they took a hit they applied

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37,500 they were awarded 20,000 and that

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was supposed to cover rental space for

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the program for the construction class

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we he also has the um

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janitronics program so we're already

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over we've already um overspent

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okay but I think we still need some

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clarity in

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in terms of what Mr wants to forward

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that information right everyone have

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other questions about that oh oh no okay

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all right so we can do that and um I'll

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send you an email on all the things we

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discussed okay thank you the one last

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thing though everyone oh is about create

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I'll let you is about create their they

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did submit an

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application somehow it got lost in the

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very first round and they brought that

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to our attention or let me just be clear

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that was brought to the Detention of the

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Department of development uh pre Miss

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Harbor I'm not sure what happened so

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then they brought it forth again um they

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sent it to me I forwarded the email to

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miss carer so but at this point in time

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we know that we we really just lack

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funds to do that so um we're going to

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have to take a look at what's going to

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really be allocated and how that's how

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we can consider that because they

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definitely submitted their application

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on time put around but somehow it just

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didn't get moved

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forward all right so Mr Williams is

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first uh just a point of clarification I

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know the mayor uh briefly touched on the

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current status of the Miracle on CED

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Street project and just so ones on the

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same page I left our last special

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meeting with the understanding that

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there would still be time allotted to

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reach out to that perspective coalition

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to see if they can come and present

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their uh um I guess proposal proposal I

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just want to make sure we're still

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functioning with that understanding that

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we just re the department of development

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just received that letter today perfect

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so we weren't on the same page up until

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a couple of hours ago but we are now

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thank you m but um there was also

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another entity out there though that so

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there were two so the understanding was

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that both of those would then um be

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presenting a proposal for that

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particular

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building okay I we can probably talk to

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the mayor more about that

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okay thank you with that clarification

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yes M so the cdbg funding we're about to

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have the um first meeting I think right

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next week perhaps today

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what five minutes from now not five

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um I just it'll be interesting to see

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you know whether some of these

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applications like I can't remember what

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the create one is actually for but you

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know whether some of these entities that

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unfortunately were unable to fund um I

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would think will'll probably be coming

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into your office through the cdbg um

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Avenue shortly they have RSVP okay yeah

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so it'll just be you know I think we

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need to all keep that in mind that um

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that ongoing annual pot of money um is

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about to launch as

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well this was for therapeutic art I did

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go back and read it after I got the

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email M so Mr tur I'm going to write on

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Miss Patrick that was my question okay

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as well just follow up on the the letter

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that you just mentioned is it a letter

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or a proposal you receive in regards to

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the mirical allocation um I guess it can

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serve as both it would need to be a

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proposal would need more information

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there's there's not a budget or anything

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but they're they're asking it's more

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like a coalition they want to have some

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rights to the decision making that will

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happen with Miracle on Craig

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but it's clear to them I I did make it

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clear that they would need to put a

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formal proposal forward so can we ask

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them because the time is of the Ence

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approaching uh March again we we

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literally just received that letter um

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today so I did um have a brief

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conversation with the mayor so I need to

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reach out and and schedule a meeting um

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with

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them so I will and ask for a proposal

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and have them come and present to city

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council but I don't I have to be and I

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don't know if I can meet with them

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before February 29th which was their ask

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okay all right Miss Brash you had a

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question uh yeah so the I mean the

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properties are

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being are reverting to the city since I

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recorded the Deeds are you talking about

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a proposal for a future yes okay I just

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wanted okay thank

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you anyone

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else no thank you thank you yes I

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appreciate you so we're going to um ad

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joury development planning and then well

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then we'll return to the agenda so may I

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have excuse me recess may I have a

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motion to recess second second Mr Mr M

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we all in favor we are recessed so I'd

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like to call to order Public Safety

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Committee we have five items on the

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agenda tonight the first of which is

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going to be the vehicle donation that's

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going to be spoken to by AC

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good evening I'm here tonight to ask for

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permission to receive a donation of a

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2021 Ford Maki a fully electric vehicle

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from Metro Ford now the vehicle valued

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at

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$34,000 now the vehicle will be used by

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the connec police officers assigned as a

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community engagement officers located

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within the SKC school district and there

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are no matching funds

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required question other questions oh I'm

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sorry that's your that's your

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command have been fired

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any questions or comments I hearing on

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may have the motion so Mo second all in

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favor I thank you thank you the second

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item on the agenda tonight is a

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resolution support of the assembly and

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state bills Alpha

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7652 Sierra 76 or

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7546 establishing a school speed zone

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camera demonstration program in the city

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of s as many of you recognize this was a

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conversation brought forward by both uh

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myself and Mr palini uh this has been uh

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reintroduced back into the Senate uh and

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I made a note that it's currently

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forwarded to the transportation

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committee as of uh early January just

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wanted to make the council aware that

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this uh aspect in consideration is still

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moving

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forward so we'll continue to monitor

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that and keep the council aware of any

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updates right the next item on the

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agenda I'm

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sorry okay res so we're going to need to

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resubmit the resolution to support the

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the continued pushing through of that so

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may have a motion so move second second

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all those in favor I the next item on

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the agenda tonight is a resolution in

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support of assembly and state bills

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Alpha

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7653 Sierra

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7545 relating to the adjudications and

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owner liability for the violation of

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traffic control signal indications in

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the city of concy and in similar fashion

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this is uh the continuation of the bill

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that allows them to to actually bring

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forth a legal action to these

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individuals uh so we need to continue

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with another uh resolution for support I

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have a motion if there are any questions

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or concerns so Mo second alls in favor I

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I the next item on the agenda tonight is

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the cprb a sing police review board

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appointment letter for the Human Rights

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Commission and I'll be spoken to

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by and have uh name submitted to the

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Council of uh Anthony follower and

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Arthur Butler the Human Rights

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Commission

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perfect one second um before there are

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any questions or comments I did want to

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take advantage of the opportunity to

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just ask I keep hearing of an additional

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uh individual from the league of women's

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voters um just trying to make sure we're

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able to continue with a fully staff

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review board so I know if there was any

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underlying can you to review that the

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design and the alternate I'm sorry that

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sir continue to review moving those

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forward as you Mo in the alternate for

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the legal for ords

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correct um so do we do we have a

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timeline because I'm about the rest of

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I'm continually getting emails and phone

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calls about them un their inability to

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have a quorum um they as I spoke with

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you on the phone they their last meeting

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they had to cancel because of that

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moving some names forward which will

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give them

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I said the same thing they're like we

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like full

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body so um is there any timeline that

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you have uh at this point I

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don't oh and just as a point of

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clarification there's no nominations

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currently on the table their names have

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been submitted and continue to review

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them

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okay uh so here no further questions or

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comments um may please have a motion to

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move forward the two uh subit primary

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alternate from the Human Rights

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Commission so second all in favor hi uh

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the last point of discussion is to amend

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the chapter code 93 uh section six for

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the ATT liance holdovers and vacancies

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um Mr Williams I I provided the uh

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council with copies of the uh relevant

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portions of the city ordinance dealing

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with vacancies so so for Point of

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Departure for your discussions so uh um

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that those are the two re relevant

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portions 93.3 and

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93-6 so if you want to have discussions

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on that and I can follow along and then

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whether I can help draft some proposed

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legislation regarding that as long as

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you have it in front of you rather than

446
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me kind of guessing what you all want

447
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so uh so I know from myself I've

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definitely reviewed this code uh

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significantly uh I don't know I don't

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want to rush any of the fellow council

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members uh just let me know what you're

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comfortable with uh I know for me

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specifically it was adding in the

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language uh to identify uh adding a

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timeline outside of the 60 days that an

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individual is noted pre their term

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ending and then applying an additional

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30 days thereafter for the agencies to

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have to for a nomination or that um

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ability to replace that individual would

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come to the mayor he said that he was

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open to receiving candidates from any

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form of fashion uh in addition to

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writing in uh language specifically

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addressing the the opportunity for

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organizations to present altern

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alternates M so you're asking so I I

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there's a letter here from Miss uh from

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the chair of the cprb and so and she

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specifically says that that um if the

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organization fails to make the

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recommendation to the mayor that the

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organization will have forfeited their

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right so that's the ask of that then we

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then the mayor be able to with the um

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support of the council be able to to put

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another name forward is that the only

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change that they're asking for this time

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are that and the inclusion of the

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alternates but also making sure language

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reged that that did not forfeit that

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organization from RE submitting someone

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in the future that just meant for the

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duration of that individual's term they

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would lose that

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opportunity Miss Patrick and so I again

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I didn't get a chance to read this piece

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yet uh that we just got um does

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it that's just the current ordinance

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right now without any changes this is

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just for your you know focusing on what

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you all you know that's what it is right

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now so if you want to change it um

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nothing's been changed that's how it

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exists right now and then if I may uh

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definitely I think the the place that

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we're in right now with the um passing

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out of committee for Mr Fowler and Mr

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Butler and then also the uh continued

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review of The League of women's voters I

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think we're now working to actively get

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the members there's still an emphasis on

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passing this amendment to the code um so

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so I don't know if people would feel

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more comfortable having a moment to read

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it uh outside of the committee meeting

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but essentially the changes I just said

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is what the chair from the cprb is

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recommending Mr P I'd be in support of

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moving forward with this resolution as

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presented by the cprb um so I don't know

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how the rest of the council feels but

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any

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question my brief review of it it almost

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seemed like that's um not so much of a

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significant change it almost seem like

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the language this could could interpret

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to where we're trying to go so I almost

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feel that you know so I could be exp

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as and then truly it is a minor

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Amendment uh and the emphasis was put on

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allowing the board to receive their full

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body and then to be able to make those

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recommendations at a grander scale with

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a a full full

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board Mr Williams are you looking to

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like f that from the general public then

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if the organization fails to uh fails to

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uh put forward nominee then you're then

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the mayor could pick somebody from the

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general public and then the council

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could vote on that appointment but it

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would be a general

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public uh appointment and it's not

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taking away from the the the existing

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structure of the various other

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organizations it's says for that

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appointment for that term period it'll

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be coming from the general public rather

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than

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from from any because that Organization

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for that cycle has for not for the

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better term has passed on that

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particular appointment and then maybe

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the the mayor can

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then uh get a general public appointee

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for that term and then all those other

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Frameworks as as to the uh membership

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would stay in place correct would you

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want to see some language to that effect

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and I can send that to you all next time

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Mr M so follow U Mr Brian um does that

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bar them from submitting an applicant in

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a 2-year period oh I would say that

555
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,880
vacancy would have already been filled

556
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:11,559
so they would have to wait that

557
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,159
c of the term is what's proposed so I

558
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,880
would say if we were continuing with the

559
00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:17,360
inclusion of an alternate that agency

560
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,320
would be able to submit an alternate um

561
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,799
but that primary seat would have been

562
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:25,679
filled or would be theoretically

563
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:27,360
filled um Mr per um so the the other

564
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:28,840
thing I I think that when the last time

565
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:31,120
we had this discussion you said that the

566
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,559
council would also be able to sub you

567
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,080
know submit recommendations to the mayor

568
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,279
and um and I think we should need to

569
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,519
look a little bit deeper into um section

570
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:42,919
93 because I do believe that there's uh

571
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:46,760
the there's a citiz at large that we're

572
00:28:42,919 --> 00:28:48,559
not currently putting there and um in

573
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,080
addition to the addition to the mayor in

574
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,480
addition to the mayor um I think there's

575
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760
another seat there we'll have I'll have

576
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,440
to look more closely at 93 and also the

577
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,760
ex official I believe is the public

578
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,039
safety commissioner that is not a voting

579
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,559
member but would um would be a part of

580
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,559
this this

581
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:09,000
board as far as regarding the you saying

582
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,320
another position from I believe there is

583
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,720
and I don't I thought I thought we had

584
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,279
the whole thing but I only have page one

585
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,039
so I'll I'll get back to you on that

586
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:18,399
okay so the two ex official members one

587
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:20,120
of which is the uh commissioner as Miss

588
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:21,240
pteri highlighted and the second is the

589
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,559
representative from the police

590
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,720
department which I believe is uh

591
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:30,039
Lieutenant can't

592
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,039
remember captain

593
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,960
sorry

594
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Captain um but to answer your previous

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,760
question I don't know if we'd have to

596
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,760
write in specific language because the

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,279
assumption is the mayor would be

598
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,880
receiving candidates so that could come

599
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:46,519
from anyone to include a member of the

600
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,279
organization that lost the right they

601
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,679
would still be able to theoretically

602
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,840
submit their name also Mr Mayor Mr

603
00:29:50,679 --> 00:29:56,440
chairman and again the intent when the

604
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:59,320
legislation was first put in was to have

605
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,000
uh a broad-based participation of that

606
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:05,720
board so it had various groups

607
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,399
throughout the community and you know

608
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,320
it's run through periods of being very

609
00:30:07,399 --> 00:30:12,240
active sometimes it's a little bit less

610
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,720
active we're bouncing back now it's the

611
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,679
other side would be to

612
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,840
review those groups has there been any

613
00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:23,039
change in the community since this

614
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:26,919
legislation was put in where another

615
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:28,600
group should be added or be one deleted

616
00:30:26,919 --> 00:30:32,399
to

617
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:35,000
uh again ensure a broad base and diverse

618
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:36,080
representation on the board and a active

619
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200
level of

620
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,720
participation yep and I completely agree

621
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:44,279
with that I think the uh Embassy put on

622
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,720
uh fully Staffing this board so that

623
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,720
they themselves would be able to submit

624
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,840
those recommendations which includes

625
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,640
various other aspects of the code uh but

626
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,919
I have stressed to them the

627
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,919
understanding of maybe expanding or the

628
00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:58,279
uh inclusion of other uh memberships as

629
00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:59,960
well

630
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:02,600
if there weren't any other questions or

631
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,799
concerns um are we comfortable to make a

632
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,240
motion so are we moving forward with the

633
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:09,760
U recommendation from the president of

634
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,480
the board yep so be proceeding with the

635
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,399
recommendation with regards to adding

636
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,559
the 30-day uh stipulation and then is

637
00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:17,399
everyone in agreement with also

638
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,120
including specific language equ

639
00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:23,240
addressing to the inclusion of an

640
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,960
alternate let me oh M sorry the process

641
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,679
would call for calling for a public

642
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,000
hearing so if you call for a public

643
00:31:26,679 --> 00:31:31,679
hearing get the draft legislation or if

644
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,760
anybody has any suggestions or

645
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:35,919
modifications to it it would still be

646
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,039
two weeks

647
00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:41,279
to modify in some manner or REM make it

648
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:43,039
some comment at the public hearing that

649
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:46,000
may shift your thinking one way or the

650
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,720
other that's fair right so motion to

651
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,559
call the public hearing yeah so moove

652
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,600
that motion to call public hearing

653
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:54,159
second all those in

654
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,639
favor are there any other items to Beall

655
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:59,559
the Public Safety Committee hearing none

656
00:31:55,639 --> 00:32:02,200
you have motion to adourn so move second

657
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:03,600
faor thank you call to order finance

658
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:08,760
committee and the fourth item is

659
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,760
amendment to budget line car is

660
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,919
not good evening pretty simple one for

661
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,120
you tonight uh which requesting a line

662
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:21,880
item uh for zoning officer we're going

663
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,360
to move it back uh from the code

664
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,760
enforcement to development also excuse

665
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,600
me from the code enforcement office to

666
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,600
the development office

667
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,080
um it's an easy switch um originally it

668
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,440
was in development and was moved down to

669
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,720
the code enforcement office so we're

670
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:41,240
just switching it

671
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:44,399
back this just reflects actual Staffing

672
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,600
and is revenue neutral just moving from

673
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:48,399
one position to the other one location

674
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,919
to the other where it belongs to yeah

675
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:54,360
any other questions comment see on have

676
00:32:50,919 --> 00:32:56,480
of motion so move second all in favor I

677
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,600
thank the next item is called for public

678
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,799
hearing think special assessment

679
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,200
District on a portion of n College

680
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:06,120
Street this was an oversight and we're

681
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:10,240
trying to put this in

682
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:13,639
place any questions I'll move it second

683
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:16,120
all in favor I I the next item is just a

684
00:33:13,639 --> 00:33:18,120
reminder of Central Parkway sidewalk

685
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,039
Improvement program the public hearing

686
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,760
is scheduled for next Monday February

687
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,760
26th at 700 p.m. room

688
00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:32,760
29 the next item is BC CJs Discovery

689
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:35,960
grant money Mr Mayor thank you Mr

690
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:40,039
chairman this is money that the uh when

691
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:43,320
the rules were changed and Discovery uh

692
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:46,919
done back 3 years ago now uh the state

693
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,600
provides money to the counties to offset

694
00:33:46,919 --> 00:33:52,240
the increased

695
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:55,320
cost we uh get some of that money uh

696
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,559
from the county to offset our cost

697
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,360
within the police department terms of

698
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:02,200
put put together Discovery and uh while

699
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,399
I appreciate this money but ask the

700
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,480
council to approve it I'm not sure it

701
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:10,720
actually covers our real cost in it but

702
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,520
uh to ask we uh appreciate any help we

703
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:15,040
can

704
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,760
get this just covered asly not the

705
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,639
benefit so we'll have to pick up the and

706
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,000
some the actual time that's spent too

707
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,000
some of this can be fairly

708
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:27,159
demanded go ahead please I have a

709
00:34:25,399 --> 00:34:28,839
question I hope it's not putting cheap

710
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,200
on the spot but could you just tell us

711
00:34:28,839 --> 00:34:36,960
more about what this discovery plan

712
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,960
is no yes for the

713
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:42,280
employes you talk about the grant or the

714
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,320
actual process in the workload yeah kind

715
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,839
of like just I I mean the Grant's fine

716
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,679
but I we'd like to know kind of I would

717
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:51,800
like to know kind of what it

718
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:54,800
covers will you join us join

719
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,800
us

720
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,960
oops thank you thank you so uh this

721
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,160
would cover partial salaries for Two

722
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,720
employees that we currently have um an

723
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:09,079
ips3 and a clerical Aid that work mainly

724
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:11,800
uh preparing stuff for the DA's office

725
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:14,040
so they uh review body warn camera

726
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:18,520
footage they provide that and they help

727
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:20,800
get records ready to uh for prosecution

728
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,800
purposes so there's just a city

729
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,079
employees they are currently C employees

730
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,680
now yes they're currently CES okay

731
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:32,560
that's was my question any other

732
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,520
questions thank you seeing now we have a

733
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,280
motion all in

734
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:40,040
favor the next item is the bis s

735
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,079
property lease agreement Miss bfield

736
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,760
thank you um I brought this up for

737
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:46,680
discussion actually started during the

738
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,359
budget season and 23 bringing it back

739
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:53,920
again um to um we pass the resolution

740
00:35:50,359 --> 00:35:56,079
2015 that's while W ago this was and um

741
00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:00,480
we raised the rent at that time from $50

742
00:35:56,079 --> 00:36:02,319
to $500 so I am with asking that we once

743
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,440
again um look at increasing the rent it

744
00:36:02,319 --> 00:36:08,359
is a source of revenue for the city we

745
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,240
um we're going to be having Revenue

746
00:36:08,359 --> 00:36:13,040
surefall according to the mayor in terms

747
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,520
in 2025 so the council agreed

748
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,000
collectively that we would be looking at

749
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,280
Revenue throughout um two of the major

750
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,800
points that we um did were looking at

751
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,119
during the budget discussion or having

752
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:28,720
concerns about were waste and um and

753
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:31,280
sewer and water so just wanted to have

754
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,520
this discussion to bring forth um to

755
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,359
once again have this discussion to bring

756
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,560
forth about um increasing the rent there

757
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:39,400
has we have had an increase in and I can

758
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,839
provide you the information there has

759
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,599
been an increase in taxes that were

760
00:36:40,839 --> 00:36:46,079
paying to the town nkuna for this uh

761
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,240
particular property so and considering

762
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,520
you know all the things that we're

763
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:51,800
showing increase that we would also

764
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:55,520
consider increasing this to it will um

765
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:59,480
not necessarily um cover everything but

766
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,319
to at least um be be offset offset this

767
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,880
cost so I'm putting before the council

768
00:37:01,319 --> 00:37:06,000
that we um increase the rent there were

769
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160
some conversations about how much

770
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,440
willing to definitely have that

771
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,280
discussion I know there was an amount

772
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:16,560
that was that you didn't mean that that

773
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,640
uh um but that you know we should we

774
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,880
should take a look at increasing it as I

775
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,280
said it was 50 went to 500 and it's been

776
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:27,240
9 years the city has um had increased

777
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,079
cost in order for for this property and

778
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,520
so I would like to see us to um to

779
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:36,040
increase that

780
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,960
rent so yes Patrick I'd like to stand by

781
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,599
what I said at the last meeting which is

782
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,079
that I think that I'd like to know more

783
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:45,520
about what the original terms of the job

784
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:47,680
offer what were that in other words if

785
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,319
this person was hired with the

786
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,400
understanding that they would be um

787
00:37:49,319 --> 00:37:56,680
residing in this house providing um

788
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,680
services at that property um that I just

789
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,960
feel that

790
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,480
you know it's sort of going against the

791
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,800
original terms of the job agreement if

792
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,160
there was a letter of agreement or a

793
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,880
contract or whatever um so I just want

794
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,720
to put that out there again

795
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,560
um for

796
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:15,920
consideration

797
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,960
so we just have to find out if there is

798
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,440
an L of agreements or if there is any I

799
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,319
just feel that LE agreement I we asked

800
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,839
for that yes there was a lease agreement

801
00:38:24,319 --> 00:38:31,400
and it was last done in 27

802
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:33,640
26 and and and and the the particulars

803
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,200
of that is is very verifying

804
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,599
calibrations of water level I'm just

805
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,640
getting examples here inspect monthly

806
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:43,520
inspect all Vents and vent screens to

807
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,400
ensure their integrity every six months

808
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,319
operate all valves from the fully opened

809
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,720
or closed positions to the opposite

810
00:38:47,319 --> 00:38:52,720
position as appropriate and visually

811
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:54,560
inspect also uh at least on a monthly

812
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:57,960
basis visually inspect the property to

813
00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:00,040
do a w around so

814
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,319
what perhaps for you you have to find a

815
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,880
benchmark and what how a you what's the

816
00:39:02,319 --> 00:39:08,880
rent you know perhaps the city assessors

817
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,599
help you with that or perhaps the a real

818
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,079
estate agent who's familiar with single

819
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,079
family residents rentals then you have a

820
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:18,240
benchmark and after that having that

821
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:22,240
Benchmark then you can quantify as best

822
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:24,640
as you can the work that's done at and

823
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,760
and fact that into your into your your

824
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,800
rental agreement having physical

825
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:33,000
presence there at the at the at the

826
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,520
reservoir so I think maybe get the get

827
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,680
the City Assessor if if they're

828
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,599
comfortable with doing that just looking

829
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,400
at the house not the of their property

830
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,160
just a rental you know you know how many

831
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,960
bathrooms you know how many bedrooms Etc

832
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:49,520
or a real estate agent assessor who's

833
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,319
familiar with rental properties to go in

834
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,720
take a look this is what a house like

835
00:39:52,319 --> 00:39:56,880
this would go for notwithstanding the

836
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:59,920
property and then you have a benchmark

837
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,240
and then and that Benchmark I then you

838
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:05,200
can you know Quant you know work that

839
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,200
those other intangibles down as far as

840
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,599
having a person on site what's the value

841
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,440
of that right and then having the

842
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:15,200
physical work that has to be done on a

843
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,839
daily basis or that still need to be

844
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,960
done and then we can factor out a new

845
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:24,640
lease agreement that I would recommend

846
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,560
be redone and reissued on a yearly basis

847
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,319
so this way on a yearly basis the

848
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,680
council always knows what's going on and

849
00:40:29,319 --> 00:40:34,240
then you're not looking at a larger

850
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,800
increase this way you're keeping tabs on

851
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:39,480
it rather than trying to play going back

852
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,920
in time so that's my

853
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,440
recommendation Mr can you can you share

854
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,000
with C

855
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,000
the to all of us I would appreciate it

856
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,560
thanks please and I'm going to share the

857
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,599
information about the tax you know I

858
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,200
think you should get this one so I'll

859
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,359
provide that I'll provide the lease

860
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,319
agreements to this have an idea of how

861
00:40:58,359 --> 00:41:02,599
much you know what sort of work has to

862
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:05,720
be done but I just think that maybe the

863
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:08,319
next time we're here you have a figure

864
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:11,400
based off of that figure have this and

865
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:15,240
then you all come up

866
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,680
with an agreement your with okay thank

867
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:20,280
you and I did pass out the the taxes

868
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,240
that we paid over the years um since

869
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,680
2015 actually so I just want to make

870
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:26,079
sure that you have all the information

871
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,040
as making these decisions that all the

872
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:30,400
information is there

873
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,240
I I'm sorry sure so and to miss

874
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,839
Patrick's um Point there's no um it

875
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,040
wasn't a term of employment because the

876
00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:40,560
lease that Mr um O'Brien is speaking

877
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:44,240
about was signed with the previous

878
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,480
tenant so it wasn't because of their job

879
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:49,760
so the previous tenant the agreement was

880
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,040
signed so it B it seems like an employee

881
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,599
whomever lived there it was by the it

882
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,720
was by the tennessy not the

883
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,839
job I guess

884
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:02,960
I guess I'm wondering if there was some

885
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:05,000
sort of um letter of agreement upon

886
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,839
offering the job to the person who's in

887
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,400
the position currently if that letter of

888
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:12,240
agreement said that part of the terms of

889
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:16,119
the employment like any of us that would

890
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:19,040
get a salary letter you know uh from an

891
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:21,640
employer would would indicate that part

892
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,800
of the terms of that employment were was

893
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:27,440
the ability to live in this house um for

894
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,040
this particular uh we're going on is

895
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,760
what is in the lease agreement as far as

896
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,880
that that's what we have as far as

897
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,640
usually a water department employee

898
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,200
because of the fact if it's a water

899
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,960
department property and the person needs

900
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,240
to have some sort of familiarization

901
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,559
with that type of type of so so it's not

902
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:48,119
employee benefit necessarily but so

903
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,040
there was nothing in a in a letter of

904
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:52,920
agreement upon higher I guess is what

905
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,119
I'm asking I think I'm aware so I um I

906
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,640
want to say like I I agree strongly with

907
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:59,839
us being able to kind of wrap around and

908
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,520
kind of quantify what is happening at

909
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:03,720
the property and and really assign a

910
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,599
real value to that before moving forward

911
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:08,079
but I also I would just kind of caution

912
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:09,839
us if we step outside to get like a kind

913
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,319
of a more real estate agent cuz I don't

914
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:14,760
think that I think any real estate agent

915
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:16,160
is operating kind of in the free market

916
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,040
this isn't necessarily a free market

917
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:22,200
situation if it's not um a city employee

918
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,200
that's uh filling a certain situation

919
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,240
it's not like U we would be looking to

920
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,960
rent better property to anyone else so I

921
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:31,480
just think that maybe the assessor would

922
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,880
be I just my best thought around would

923
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,599
be the person to do that I just threw

924
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,599
those out

925
00:43:36,839 --> 00:43:42,200
yeah oh not goad please oh thank you yes

926
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,880
and and some of the emails that have

927
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,359
gone back and forth between myself and

928
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,599
you and forward and on to the council um

929
00:43:46,359 --> 00:43:52,200
I did suggest I mean that that you know

930
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:53,240
first of all if we were going to assess

931
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,599
as a

932
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,800
council the cost of uh that we'd like to

933
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:02,000
uh raise this rent I would personally

934
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,559
like a tour if if it's going to be up to

935
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:08,319
us I'd like a tour of this property um

936
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:10,319
just because I'd like to see it and and

937
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:12,880
know what why I'm raising the rent or

938
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:15,720
not raising the rent um secondly I did

939
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,400
suggest if we're not qualified like uh

940
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:22,599
Council O'Brien put through that um you

941
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,880
know uh should we um have a real estate

942
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:28,040
agent or someone who specializes in

943
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,839
rental property before we even do that

944
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,920
um uh the department of development has

945
00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:36,760
come up in in these uh emails so I'm not

946
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,160
sure um you know would they be the ones

947
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:43,920
deciding some type of rental increase I

948
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:47,119
mean um also what's come up is um Naga

949
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:52,160
Mohawk the the electric U Bill National

950
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:54,400
Grid um so um yes the city pays that

951
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,040
bill but then we get a credit back from

952
00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:00,040
them every year because of the solar

953
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:03,280
solar uh panels up there

954
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:06,000
um again we we we really don't want to

955
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,160
keep this personal um we want to keep it

956
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:12,440
about the property um but yet you know

957
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,640
there's been statements made um that the

958
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,760
employee that lives there can more than

959
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,520
enough afford this property and you know

960
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,079
it's been put out there how much this

961
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:27,040
individual makes um and again we want to

962
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:29,760
keep it more businesslike than than

963
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,760
personal so I just like to bring to

964
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,520
bring uh those things up and as far as

965
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,319
um you know there's been an amount of

966
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,960
$1,000 put out there from $500 to

967
00:45:37,319 --> 00:45:44,119
$11,000 not that I don't think $11,000

968
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,760
is absurd um it's not absurd in today's

969
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:50,680
rent but

970
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:53,920
100% increase on the $500 $1,000 I think

971
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,400
is absurd and any one of us that would

972
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,200
uh take a phone call from any individual

973
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:02,040
in the city whose landlord wanted to

974
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,760
raise their rent 100% um we'd be

975
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,960
fighting for for them so again we have

976
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,000
to think of us as the city and revenue

977
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,440
coming in but we also have to think of

978
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,240
what we would do for a lot of residents

979
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,839
in the city

980
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:19,079
so it's not makes me pretty go ahead

981
00:46:16,839 --> 00:46:20,359
please oh sorry so I say it's

982
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,160
questioning your inclusion of some of

983
00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:23,440
the language because i' say up until

984
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,000
that point right now you will be the

985
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,400
first person that brought that up at

986
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,359
this meeting um so that was my my first

987
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,520
question okay um the the second response

988
00:46:30,359 --> 00:46:35,400
to your comment of $1,000 I would say

989
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,920
that clarification would have

990
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,520
credibility if that market print was

991
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,400
significantly under the threshold so I

992
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,720
would say from the residents that I've

993
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,720
interacted with it is very difficult to

994
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:50,359
get an $1,000 studio so I would say

995
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,720
based on my experience which is not that

996
00:46:50,359 --> 00:46:54,079
of which of the City Assessor so I want

997
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:56,240
to thank Mr O'Brien for adding his uh

998
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,119
input and feedback um I would say to

999
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,960
myself I I don't know what value seeing

1000
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:02,480
a property would have for me um my

1001
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,119
understanding of including that

1002
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,040
individual from the ass's office is they

1003
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,640
would be best suited with their

1004
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,000
background and professional uh

1005
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:14,920
wherewithal to recommend a price range

1006
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,920
to us and then although I am partially

1007
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,200
not in agreement with kind of evaluating

1008
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
some of the additional work that's done

1009
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,400
on the property due to the fact that if

1010
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,240
it's truly city-owned we have

1011
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,440
departments and Staffing to do that work

1012
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,200
so I think we're then looking at

1013
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,200
duplication of resources and then we're

1014
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,480
evaluating how to continue maintaining

1015
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,720
this property I believe the mayor was

1016
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,839
highlighting that there may be some

1017
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,960
abilities to incorporate some

1018
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:39,559
technological assist so I think as we

1019
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,200
look at properly reviewing uh the the

1020
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:42,400
functionality of this property which I

1021
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,359
understand there are certain duties and

1022
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,119
aspects that are needed uh I agree with

1023
00:47:44,359 --> 00:47:48,400
that um but I think in the year 2024 I

1024
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,119
think we might be able to automate some

1025
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,280
of those outside of if you need a person

1026
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,240
to walk the property like that's

1027
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,440
understood um so I think there are some

1028
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:57,240
ways to kind of appreciate the services

1029
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,760
that have been rendered thus far but

1030
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:02,240
evaluate if there's a way to apply some

1031
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:04,160
of that smart City uh norance that we we

1032
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,680
highlight and and the and a means to

1033
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,680
kind of do some inventional savings as

1034
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:14,200
well go ahead please so I did speak to

1035
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,160
Mr O'Brien regarding your um suggestion

1036
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,319
that the council walk through and you

1037
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,599
can articulate what you I think as as Mr

1038
00:48:19,319 --> 00:48:23,200
Williams says I think the value of this

1039
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:25,559
you're going in there for you know

1040
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:30,000
evaluation and and the individual is a

1041
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:33,599
tenant of of the that's his house I just

1042
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,480
think I think it would be best for for

1043
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:38,079
the assessor to take a look at the type

1044
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,680
of property assess it from

1045
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:42,440
just an arms length transaction if you

1046
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,240
will how many how how many rooms are in

1047
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,559
there how many bathrooms Etc and give

1048
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:50,240
you a value rather than going through

1049
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:52,319
because um I don't know what I mean it's

1050
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:54,119
certainly city property you you could do

1051
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:56,119
it but I don't know what value that you

1052
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:58,799
know this is not like going through the

1053
00:48:56,119 --> 00:49:01,760
you're going through somebody's home as

1054
00:48:58,799 --> 00:49:04,400
as if you will as the

1055
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,000
landlord go ahead please yeah I just put

1056
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,119
that out there as the request of the

1057
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,760
tenant uh would like us to personally

1058
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:12,559
see um and I'd like to know if any of my

1059
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,480
other council members would like to view

1060
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:17,559
the property as

1061
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,480
well well I mean as I said I I've given

1062
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:21,799
my recommendation to the than I

1063
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,160
appreciate

1064
00:49:21,799 --> 00:49:25,960
it so I've seen it from the outside and

1065
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,040
so I don't I don't necessarily feel like

1066
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,960
I need to to uh go inside someone's home

1067
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:35,000
and and again you know uh I personally

1068
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,799
don't have that and doesn't S within my

1069
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,559
Pur to be able to look and say well this

1070
00:49:36,799 --> 00:49:40,960
is value that that it just is the only

1071
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,799
thing I'd be able to look at is the

1072
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,240
paint on the walls or how it's kept and

1073
00:49:42,799 --> 00:49:47,040
I I don't think there's necessarily

1074
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,000
value in that uh so I have to agree

1075
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,720
that's why I raised the point to Mr

1076
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,839
O'Brien when he was brought up that what

1077
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:56,839
is the best way and so he's he's he's

1078
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:59,559
clearly articulated that

1079
00:49:56,839 --> 00:50:02,200
so I think we just um we should maybe

1080
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:04,280
stick to Mr O'Brien our recommendation

1081
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,240
to have the assessor office look into

1082
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,359
this or an outside agency look into it

1083
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,359
and bring that information to us as as a

1084
00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:12,440
council here rather than us going there

1085
00:50:10,359 --> 00:50:13,960
individually or collectively and try to

1086
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,240
make a determination and then come back

1087
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,240
and vote on the same recommendation way

1088
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,359
way so I think the recommendation from

1089
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:24,040
this is the right path to for us to

1090
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:27,240
choose and let's um do that and get the

1091
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,720
information back to us and we regard to

1092
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:32,240
raising something 100% in this year

1093
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:35,920
budget we raise commercial wat to on

1094
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:38,960
garbage 100% so we do we do we did raise

1095
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,960
100% on some

1096
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,160
fees yeah again I just think it's really

1097
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:47,960
important that we understand and are

1098
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,480
able to put a number to you know what's

1099
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:53,040
happening um Know What's happen

1100
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,839
operationally on the property now um I

1101
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,559
think that's something that we obviously

1102
00:50:54,839 --> 00:50:59,720
need to go into kind of whatever formula

1103
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:01,839
we're using to to figure out what we

1104
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:05,640
should be receiving um I mean I don't

1105
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:08,119
need to see the uh property personally

1106
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,280
you know sure it's no mini Mansion up

1107
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,799
there but I just think that we just at

1108
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,839
least want to let the people who are

1109
00:51:11,799 --> 00:51:17,200
most qualified to do so do that and then

1110
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:19,960
we can factor in um um what services are

1111
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,839
are being provided um at that the given

1112
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,880
moment

1113
00:51:20,839 --> 00:51:26,599
so go ahead please and just to clarify

1114
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,319
my my point like I have zero interest I

1115
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:31,960
trust that our city assessors are are

1116
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:34,359
best equipped to render us a threshold

1117
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,640
and then we'll evaluate that accordingly

1118
00:51:34,359 --> 00:51:38,160
um and also I just want to kind of take

1119
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,079
a point um my position is not taken into

1120
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,920
consideration the person uh I think

1121
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,960
during our budget season or budget

1122
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,839
discussions which were very lengthy

1123
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,880
we've left that with an understanding of

1124
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:49,520
evaluating other Revenue Lines within

1125
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,839
the city so I think looking at this

1126
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,440
individually yes it might be a minor uh

1127
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:57,599
return of funds back to the the city

1128
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,760
should we choose to in in the rents but

1129
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,559
I think collectively and that's the

1130
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,760
conversation I'm truly looking for I

1131
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,359
think there needs to be more of an

1132
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,040
emphasis placed on capturing uh some of

1133
00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:09,599
those additional Revenue lines to to

1134
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:12,480
deat into uh that uh gu I won look at

1135
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,920
itga just look at the the gap of before

1136
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,839
next year's budget to include having our

1137
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,000
quarterly reviews so this just happens

1138
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:20,440
to be the first item that we're

1139
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:23,359
discussing but and it it will not be the

1140
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,640
last go ahead please so in that you know

1141
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:26,240
we we talked about revenue and talked

1142
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,880
about revenue and so I I am going to

1143
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,920
just tell you that I took an opportunity

1144
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,599
to look at the revenue lines and for the

1145
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,200
F past um at least 3 years we have not

1146
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:37,559
been get any full revenue on that line

1147
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,319
so just want to you know we we talked

1148
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:42,119
about it so it was brought up by um

1149
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:44,280
various people so just want to make sure

1150
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:46,839
that you know we need to we need to

1151
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,839
rectify

1152
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,079
that and I don't know if that's because

1153
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,839
there's some agreement with the city I

1154
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:58,440
don't know the details of that but

1155
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,440
that's

1156
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,839
adjusted he said that's been adjusted

1157
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,599
says that was

1158
00:53:02,839 --> 00:53:06,839
adjusted

1159
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:08,400
okay any other question go ahead please

1160
00:53:06,839 --> 00:53:10,960
no I just want to again want to clarify

1161
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,520
that we you know need to keep the you

1162
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,640
know the focus as to like this being a a

1163
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,240
city property and not about a person or

1164
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,400
a Personnel issue or anything of that

1165
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:23,200
matter I think if we go down that road

1166
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,680
then we do need to um enter into an an

1167
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,119
executive session um I think that if it

1168
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,920
was um we're making our decisions based

1169
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:34,079
on anything personal or anything that we

1170
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,319
think is you know outside of from of our

1171
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:38,400
scope then I just would caution us not

1172
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:40,079
to do that um and I definitely will be

1173
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,480
participating in

1174
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:45,400
that I think the discussion so far has

1175
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,440
been about Revenue income and all of

1176
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,520
that so and and we're we're clear about

1177
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,200
using the term

1178
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,599
tenant I think J what go ahead sorry in

1179
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,599
independent of this discussion

1180
00:53:54,599 --> 00:54:00,280
appreciate the council's interest

1181
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:03,440
if you have not been to that site you

1182
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,160
should be to the site it first of all

1183
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,559
it's also part of our critical

1184
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,720
infrastructure so in terms of Homeland

1185
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:13,079
Security it's rated differently there's

1186
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:15,119
a 711 megawatt solar facility that's

1187
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:18,359
been installed there it's also an

1188
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:20,839
integral part town hisun is water system

1189
00:54:18,359 --> 00:54:23,599
and some of the communications equipment

1190
00:54:20,839 --> 00:54:25,319
for Public Safety uh not only for the

1191
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:29,200
city but throughout the county is

1192
00:54:25,319 --> 00:54:32,119
located there so that some point should

1193
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,480
go there just be aware of it and

1194
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:37,400
understand the significance of

1195
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,760
it go ahead so does NIS I know it's in

1196
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,079
nisun so does NIS unit take any part of

1197
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280
the like the outdoor maintenance are

1198
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:44,280
they responsible for any of

1199
00:54:44,359 --> 00:54:49,920
that no

1200
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:52,799
and we're challenging the assessment on

1201
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,520
some of our property and our we always

1202
00:54:52,799 --> 00:54:57,720
look forward to working with our sister

1203
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,640
communities sometimes I'm not sure we're

1204
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,359
getting the best deal and some of them

1205
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,599
were're moving through formal

1206
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:04,359
proceedings on well in the first year it

1207
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:09,240
was like

1208
00:55:04,359 --> 00:55:11,960
$8600 increase um I think back in 15 or

1209
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:14,240
16 and then it's been less since then

1210
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:17,880
but we're looking at um over the those

1211
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:19,520
past 9 years $15,000 increase so for me

1212
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,920
it's about you know we're looking at the

1213
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,640
increases that we're getting and we need

1214
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:26,319
to um Step Up the the revenue on that

1215
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:29,599
and also Tak into consideration what the

1216
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:31,440
Market rent is now which is um pretty

1217
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:34,359
significant probably sometimes three

1218
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,039
times that or even four for for I don't

1219
00:55:34,359 --> 00:55:39,039
know what the inside looks like but for

1220
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:40,920
um for an apartment and not a house so

1221
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:43,440
again this is the really about revenue

1222
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,400
and um costs that the city is incurring

1223
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,039
and how we can like increase our Revenue

1224
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,200
to close that very large budget Gap that

1225
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:52,000
uh has been you know that the mayor's

1226
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,359
brought forward that we're going to have

1227
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
and I think that's why it's important

1228
00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:57,480
that we do this starting now and not

1229
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,440
wait until we you know we're sitting

1230
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:03,520
around the table again in October um

1231
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,079
because that was so much fun that look

1232
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,480
forward to it

1233
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:08,839
again so that's why I want to bring this

1234
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,559
forward and to make that consideration

1235
00:56:08,839 --> 00:56:14,039
so U Mr O'Brien would you um be asking

1236
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,920
the assessor to do that or how yeah our

1237
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:19,039
office will ask the assessor to do that

1238
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:21,799
and then uh and then come back with it

1239
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:23,960
for your next next council meeting with

1240
00:56:21,799 --> 00:56:26,839
a figure from which to work from and

1241
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,920
then from there proceed okay draft the

1242
00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:30,920
lease at the appropriate

1243
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,240
time and the current lease that you have

1244
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,160
you're going to email it to yes the leas

1245
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:37,960
the last lease that was yes for your for

1246
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:41,480
your situational awareness yes we'll

1247
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,160
send that to you but just to be clear

1248
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,160
the lease that we're going to get is for

1249
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,119
a prior T is there we don't have a

1250
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,200
current Le that's correct is that

1251
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:51,599
correct that is correct okay thank you

1252
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,960
just sing in so we have a look at the

1253
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:55,799
language just for the language the

1254
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,039
duties and responsibilities would be

1255
00:56:55,799 --> 00:57:00,559
good for

1256
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:04,280
reference for free okay thank you thank

1257
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:07,240
you Mr mudar any other questions so we

1258
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,240
build P this for two

1259
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,920
weeks okay any other item before

1260
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Finance motion to return so mov second

1261
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,799
all in favor I thank you okay I'd like

1262
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,839
to call the order government operations

1263
00:57:19,799 --> 00:57:23,319
we have two items on the agenda the

1264
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:27,359
first is the home rule request to

1265
00:57:23,319 --> 00:57:30,520
support Senate and assembly bills a70 58

1266
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:32,400
s 7409 to increase the membership of the

1267
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,160
special district operations and

1268
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:39,039
development committee uh president 43r

1269
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:42,520
thank you so the um the board from the

1270
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:45,280
uh dsad U brought this forward to us and

1271
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:48,160
asked that well they actually went first

1272
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,119
to assembly in Santa Barbara and and the

1273
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,680
senator and uh to ask that they be able

1274
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:55,359
to increase their board and they so they

1275
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,480
bypass the process of asking for the

1276
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:59,680
home rule so they went there and they

1277
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,880
already got their bill numbers but the

1278
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,480
Legislative Office uh informed them that

1279
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,599
in order to do this they need to come

1280
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:09,039
back to the council and ask for the home

1281
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:10,559
rule so um they reached out to us to um

1282
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:12,400
see if we would do that if we're in

1283
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:15,319
agreement with them increasing their

1284
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,000
board and what uh I was told is the same

1285
00:58:15,319 --> 00:58:20,400
thing that many boards have said they're

1286
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,720
having difficulty achieving their Quorum

1287
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,079
so they want to be able to increase

1288
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,559
their board in order to be able to make

1289
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,559
a quum and to move forward with their

1290
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:30,960
meetings so I'm bringing this for for

1291
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:33,400
the council to um support a home rule

1292
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,079
request to the Senate and the assembly

1293
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,599
for the bills that there to increase the

1294
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:41,160
membership um of the

1295
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:41,160
DSA questions

1296
00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:49,280
comments move pres support second second

1297
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,799
all those in favor

1298
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,079
I all right our next agenda item is

1299
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:56,240
appointment to the ethics board and

1300
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:59,520
that's all presid

1301
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,520
yeah so this came before the um the

1302
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,280
council once before it got

1303
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:07,640
to it moved forward on the agenda out of

1304
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,200
the committee onto the agenda and um

1305
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,359
there was a roll call requested at the

1306
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,000
committee meeting excuse me at the

1307
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:15,160
council meeting and so since there was

1308
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,559
no second the the item failed because it

1309
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:21,119
had been removed from the consent agenda

1310
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:23,440
so um I'm bringing it back again and I

1311
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:25,720
just want to again articulate that's

1312
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,599
another board that has it's made up of

1313
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,039
five

1314
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:31,079
and right now only three of the it's

1315
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,440
excuse me it's supposed to be five but

1316
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:35,520
right now there's only four people and

1317
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,559
only three of the four can um are able

1318
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,680
to make the meetings because of health

1319
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:42,839
issues and so what that means basically

1320
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,760
is anything that comes before them every

1321
00:59:42,839 --> 00:59:47,559
single person has to agree because two

1322
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,880
to one will not pass anything because

1323
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:52,960
the board is supposed to be five so um I

1324
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,400
know that one person that's on the board

1325
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,000
is going to probably out in my is for a

1326
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,280
while so I was bringing forth the name

1327
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,480
of Christopher Marney who as we all know

1328
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:06,680
who used was formerly an employee here

1329
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:10,680
and his resume is before you and for us

1330
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:12,079
to um consider this individual to um to

1331
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:16,599
be moved forward to be a member of the

1332
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:16,599
ethics board any questions or

1333
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,559
concerns uh so I wanted to take a moment

1334
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,799
these were comments that I withheld from

1335
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,119
our last council meeting but I take a

1336
01:00:23,799 --> 01:00:27,640
pleasure in the opportunity to like

1337
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:29,920
address Mr who in the room right now uh

1338
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:33,200
over the course of my political career

1339
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,480
in the the city uh I have only known for

1340
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,319
Mr Mar to have served in his capacity as

1341
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,359
Deputy Corporation Council with the

1342
01:00:37,319 --> 01:00:40,799
utmost distinction and professionalism

1343
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:42,400
and I think that is none short than what

1344
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:44,920
we would expect from anyone functioning

1345
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,799
in that role uh to date I haven't heard

1346
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,839
of any issues or complaints regarding

1347
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:51,200
the manner in which she practiced being

1348
01:00:48,839 --> 01:00:54,160
a steward of our city code uh but to me

1349
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,480
he uh personally would would provide

1350
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,599
unbiased feedback on how to to uh

1351
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,520
conduct um my uh uh actions as a city

1352
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:03,079
council member and it is with that

1353
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,559
understanding and those interactions

1354
01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:07,359
that I believe he would be best suited

1355
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:09,599
to apply an unbiased and objective uh

1356
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:13,079
presence onto this board uh so I would

1357
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:14,599
ask that if anyone had any uh uh

1358
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:16,039
concerns with the individual that you

1359
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:20,000
would just make them known at this point

1360
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:22,079
uh just due to his uh resume and uh his

1361
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,599
as Community involvement also I I don't

1362
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:26,839
know why uh anyone would be opposed to

1363
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:29,599
having a credible individual Jo join uh

1364
01:01:26,839 --> 01:01:29,599
this board to help

1365
01:01:30,839 --> 01:01:36,559
support questions anyone want to add on

1366
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:39,400
to that express any concerns

1367
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:40,960
questions see I move this do do we have

1368
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,359
to move this or it's

1369
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,839
already no we don't have to it says well

1370
01:01:44,359 --> 01:01:47,319
do we have we do have to move it yes we

1371
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:50,240
should move because it fell off the

1372
01:01:47,319 --> 01:01:53,480
agenda so we're going have to move

1373
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:56,240
again move I move I'll second those in

1374
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,920
favor I I thank you thank you no more

1375
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,079
business to operations I will AC a

1376
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:04,200
motion to adjourn so move second those

1377
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:05,960
in favor we adjourn thank you I'd like

1378
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,319
to reconvene City development and

1379
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,400
planning um we had originally had 11

1380
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:11,760
items on the agenda Miss Carver needed

1381
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,400
to go on to her training and so

1382
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,000
therefore she's left so we have 10 items

1383
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:20,160
remaining

1384
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,839
um and the first one is to I don't see

1385
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Mr wall in the room

1386
01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:28,559
though uh are

1387
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:30,039
youing you you're Mr well I on those

1388
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:32,640
issues yes I should be able to handle

1389
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:34,960
any question the council so the item

1390
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,480
number two is the authoriz the issue

1391
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,160
issue of a revocable permit number 681

1392
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:43,240
to pierce Renewables for a sign that

1393
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:45,799
overhang the cities right away 155 I I

1394
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,760
think the council has the information on

1395
01:02:45,799 --> 01:02:51,000
this called a fairly standard

1396
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:54,279
application for signage in city where it

1397
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:58,520
goes into the city right away and uh

1398
01:02:54,279 --> 01:02:58,520
asking for revokable perit to be

1399
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,480
issued any questions oh your hands not

1400
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,960
up that's just like put your hand on

1401
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:09,000
your face second all in favor I thank

1402
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:12,760
you item number three is another vocable

1403
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,160
permit to 680 uh Number 682 Miler

1404
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,400
restaurant for assignment overhang

1405
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:21,079
cities right away at 500

1406
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:24,119
Street steel Bank of America

1407
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:25,920
building but I thought those were

1408
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:27,599
Apartments

1409
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,400
this is on the first

1410
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:33,359
floor where this sign is going to go the

1411
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:37,319
business is going the apartments are

1412
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:40,240
stairs Citi oh this is this is not no

1413
01:03:37,319 --> 01:03:44,079
500 is Bank of America so the other side

1414
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:47,400
of the street the new Ortho no isn't it

1415
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:49,960
right oh Ortho New York's going to have

1416
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,559
a restaurant on the ground floor

1417
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:56,000
yep okay I guess it'll be easy you can't

1418
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:57,799
be late for lunch come back from lunch

1419
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:02,400
not the restaurant that's going to where

1420
01:03:57,799 --> 01:04:05,400
the old citizens B was okay all

1421
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:08,400
right in the package you can see the

1422
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,880
signage close to the corner but the

1423
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,240
property line for all practical purposes

1424
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:16,520
is right at

1425
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:20,440
the okay

1426
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:23,200
sidewalk that's interesting a motion

1427
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,200
second all in

1428
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:31,720
favor okay um

1429
01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:34,880
next item number four is uh work on

1430
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:40,200
the contractor's building the pump

1431
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:43,960
station and the golf course and this is

1432
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:47,799
the electrical work and upgrades there

1433
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,799
and it's in budget

1434
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,799
and I want to say this is going to

1435
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,160
finish the building off but I'm not sure

1436
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:56,279
if there might still be some other work

1437
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,039
on it

1438
01:04:56,279 --> 01:04:59,520
so this is within the ARA allocation

1439
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:02,079
that we've already provided to this uh

1440
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,079
to the Dolf

1441
01:05:03,580 --> 01:05:07,920
[Music]

1442
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:07,920
course I'm

1443
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:14,119
going now if this is out of

1444
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:22,160
the oh yes this is for the irrigation

1445
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,440
pump house so this is upgrade the

1446
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,000
electricity so yes you're right so it's

1447
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,119
already cover there is something other

1448
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,799
work that's coming out of the golf

1449
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:32,720
course budget but this electrical

1450
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:35,359
contract will upgrade

1451
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,680
the outline three-phase wiring to be

1452
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:41,920
able to handle the new equipment for the

1453
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:45,559
pumps okay any question I'll move it

1454
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,559
second all in favor thank you uh the

1455
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:50,160
next item is to review the moratorium on

1456
01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:54,520
smoke and vape shops M Boro yes thank

1457
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:56,839
you um so um everyone received from uh

1458
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:59,680
Corporation Council harash did I say

1459
01:05:56,839 --> 01:06:02,880
that correctly harash yes um the

1460
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:07,760
moratorium that she uh proposed and put

1461
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:11,079
forward um had uh several opportunities

1462
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:14,400
to read it over and um just kind of a

1463
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:16,440
few questions my myself as far as uh the

1464
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:19,160
implementation of zoning and we are

1465
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:23,240
working on that continuously that will

1466
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:25,799
be once yes we've got to think yes that

1467
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,160
will be a priority because with your

1468
01:06:25,799 --> 01:06:31,680
asking for in this particular

1469
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:35,119
legislation is is a 90day uh period for

1470
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,160
us to get that zoning ordinance uh

1471
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:39,760
amended and means it's going into the

1472
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:42,640
various sections of the zoning code and

1473
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,799
putting in the the definitions and the

1474
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,640
language that you need in that code so

1475
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:51,359
yeah that's uh this is just the

1476
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:54,279
moratorium so of putting holding things

1477
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:56,359
in place for the period of time and then

1478
01:06:54,279 --> 01:06:58,760
the follow on piece of ation which will

1479
01:06:56,359 --> 01:07:03,200
come before you at a later date will be

1480
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:05,720
the the actual zoning code amendments so

1481
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,440
that will require a public hearing as

1482
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,799
well because we're amending the zoning

1483
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:13,480
code and uh

1484
01:07:09,799 --> 01:07:17,000
and so that's that will be being worked

1485
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,880
on to get that what you're intending to

1486
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,480
get into the the zoning code this is

1487
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,200
just the moratorium so you can see just

1488
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,599
by the language of this moratorium it

1489
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:29,119
goes for a number of pages so yes yes

1490
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:32,760
right so the code has to be

1491
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:34,559
addressed I so in your estimation is 90

1492
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,039
days enough or should we go back to the

1493
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:38,440
original six month report back to you in

1494
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:43,440
60

1495
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:45,880
days I will give myself a a 60-day

1496
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,799
deadline and then if I feel that I can't

1497
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,200
get this to you in that time period I

1498
01:07:47,799 --> 01:07:55,680
will report back to you but uh um that

1499
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:59,559
is my my my goal is to get get it to in

1500
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:03,160
that time period and I'm not you so but

1501
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:04,799
30 days out I'll report back to you okay

1502
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,920
so there was some framework that was

1503
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:10,160
already set so are you able to like

1504
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:12,119
build upon that because most of us met

1505
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,200
um with the formal Corporation I know

1506
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:17,120
that you there's an overlay map that was

1507
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:21,239
produced now we have to put the overlay

1508
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:24,120
map and your intents into into the code

1509
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:27,080
itself so I I've seen the overlay Maps

1510
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:30,120
but it's we even add into the various

1511
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:33,279
sections of the code okay and my further

1512
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:36,120
question is so this uh moratorium is

1513
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,960
also on any

1514
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,799
cannabis uh properties uh businesses

1515
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,880
that want to

1516
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:45,719
open it's all it's all all that that was

1517
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,440
what your public hearing was when you

1518
01:08:45,719 --> 01:08:50,640
had the public hearing this this this is

1519
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:53,040
the this is the resolution that you all

1520
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:56,279
have had back in uh August you had a

1521
01:08:53,040 --> 01:09:00,920
public hearing back in August um um for

1522
01:08:56,279 --> 01:09:02,920
the the implementation for the uh for

1523
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:07,440
the moratorium legislation and then you

1524
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,440
paused implementing the moratorium

1525
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:14,120
legislation yes Mr

1526
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:16,759
bar yeah so so

1527
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,719
um how I understood that the moratorium

1528
01:09:16,759 --> 01:09:21,640
was for vape and smoke shots and um I

1529
01:09:19,719 --> 01:09:24,120
didn't know that our original moratorium

1530
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:27,199
didn't did not include Cannabis shops to

1531
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:29,480
my to my Reg think we have an

1532
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:31,520
ability and I know that Mr O'Brien is

1533
01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:32,679
definitely kind of I appreciate the work

1534
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,080
that you're doing here trying to piece

1535
01:09:32,679 --> 01:09:36,920
this all this together cuz I think that

1536
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,159
that wasn't there was a lot of uh moving

1537
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,520
pieces around this and a lot of

1538
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,279
different discussions so I could see how

1539
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,880
that could um definitely cuz I I know at

1540
01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:47,239
one point that was discussed so I think

1541
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:50,640
that I can see why I would be here now

1542
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:53,400
right we're talking UNR one unregulated

1543
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,960
smoke shops vape shops tobacco and vape

1544
01:09:53,400 --> 01:10:00,440
consumption yeah yeah

1545
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,440
yepes not

1546
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:08,080
canab sorry yeah if if you want to if

1547
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:10,600
you want that

1548
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,080
amended the Cannabis retail we'll take a

1549
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:15,280
look at that because I'm looking at the

1550
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:18,000
original legislation the the original

1551
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:21,080
first paragraph of the we AB in this it

1552
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:25,560
says can cannabis retail consumption and

1553
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:28,560
usess so we can delete that we can

1554
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:32,360
delete those references for your for for

1555
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:35,080
final consideration for next Monday to

1556
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:38,560
delete that we can work that and delete

1557
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:41,679
those references in this legislation and

1558
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,960
then uh give you a clean a clean

1559
01:10:41,679 --> 01:10:46,920
moratorium if you so way wait Mr Toro

1560
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,560
had hand I'm I'm sorry cannabis

1561
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,800
consumption it's it's not that's just

1562
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:55,360
using it's not selling it's I'm not

1563
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:58,280
familiar with that terminology and and

1564
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:02,320
then I I do have something under um

1565
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:05,480
number four enactment of temporary

1566
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:09,159
moratorium uh item number

1567
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:11,080
two uh no previously submitted

1568
01:11:09,159 --> 01:11:13,120
applications for building permits and

1569
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,120
land so I was under the impression that

1570
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,400
if something had already been submitted

1571
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:21,159
that that

1572
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:23,520
was going to go forward that could go

1573
01:11:21,159 --> 01:11:26,280
forward I would like him to stop but

1574
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,560
yeah me too though I was kind of

1575
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,280
well I think okay wait Patrick had her

1576
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,920
hand up first so I'll let go well I

1577
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,360
noticed that as well when I was reading

1578
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,840
this and I actually would be in favor of

1579
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,000
that but I didn't think that we could do

1580
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,800
that either um but I thought that was

1581
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,760
cool that I would like to see that

1582
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,639
included and then I think in terms of

1583
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,480
the Cannabis that it also does include

1584
01:11:44,639 --> 01:11:48,840
the

1585
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:50,639
paraphernalia in other words like if um

1586
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:54,600
you know pipes and and that kind of

1587
01:11:50,639 --> 01:11:55,760
thing we could include in this um but it

1588
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,719
was my understand understanding as well

1589
01:11:55,760 --> 01:12:00,520
that we

1590
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:02,440
couldn't um go against what the state

1591
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:05,000
was doing with cannabis although this

1592
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:08,040
does say something I wasn't sure if I

1593
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:12,159
was reading it correctly um but there

1594
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,159
was something in here that did look

1595
01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:18,360
like well we were able to do that no

1596
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:20,320
what what it it does in that where

1597
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,760
section of you know relooking at that

1598
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:26,120
it's just saying we do have the um

1599
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,400
flexibility of smoke shot

1600
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:31,199
which is you know regarding cannabis

1601
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,920
retail that's what that's saying there

1602
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:35,679
so we can't do it for the Cannabis

1603
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,880
retail right I that was my original

1604
01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:39,120
understanding was that we couldn't touch

1605
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:42,080
cannabis retail we can touch cannabis

1606
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,360
paraphernalia right it looks like we're

1607
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,040
only touching cannabis consumption I'm

1608
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,440
sorry it looks like we're only in a

1609
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,320
couple of different spots um and then uh

1610
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:53,400
on page number four of seven at the very

1611
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,679
top it it touches on cannabis

1612
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,760
consumption again so I I guess what we

1613
01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:00,440
don't want are are people in these smok

1614
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:02,760
and vape shops kind of like smoking is

1615
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:05,679
that consumption in

1616
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,880
there we're not allowing that we don't

1617
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:10,320
want that to

1618
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,320
happen Mr well Mr you have a point no I

1619
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:15,080
I I think when we we discussed this uh

1620
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,239
previously um the Cannabis um we should

1621
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:20,480
consider removing the words uh wherever

1622
01:13:17,239 --> 01:13:23,480
it is where with regards to cannabis if

1623
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:24,960
it's consumption or paraphanalia because

1624
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:26,560
I don't think we initially talk about

1625
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,440
that I don't think we can touch that

1626
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,000
because of State regulation yeah cuz if

1627
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:32,760
you take a look at the moratorium

1628
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,000
section it says no new applications for

1629
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,159
vape shops smoke shops toac shops in

1630
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,080
that that's where the moratorium that's

1631
01:13:37,159 --> 01:13:41,639
exactly so we that's where the

1632
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:45,120
moratorium Lang we need to remove

1633
01:13:41,639 --> 01:13:48,800
anything that um is directing us towards

1634
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:50,520
cannabis in this um in this draft here

1635
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,120
and at the same time we did talk about

1636
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,560
um the application that is inhouse I

1637
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,280
don't think we can put a stop on that

1638
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:00,120
legally we have to treat them one by

1639
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:02,280
Case by case basis and mentioned that

1640
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,000
too the last time we discussed Case by

1641
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:07,040
case basis to see the application if

1642
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,040
it's worth it and um and if the

1643
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,120
department of development will U will

1644
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:14,600
move forward with the application on

1645
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:16,320
filed so we looked uh into that so if

1646
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,199
you were if the council were to pass

1647
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,679
this this would be an ordinance and so

1648
01:14:18,199 --> 01:14:24,360
you would be effectively amending the

1649
01:14:20,679 --> 01:14:26,360
city code so you would uh if you pass

1650
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,360
this or or similar language as a

1651
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:32,120
moratorium then you you could stop um

1652
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,120
anything you could stop applications

1653
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:38,280
that are currently on file

1654
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:40,600
from oh so as of as of the date of

1655
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,400
filing of the date of the ordinance the

1656
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,679
eff dat so they want to file We Can't

1657
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,960
Stop Those we can stop anything that

1658
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:48,880
comes after

1659
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:52,400
we so that's what we talk we're talking

1660
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:54,400
about the on have no no let me it says

1661
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,880
and no no previous submitted so if

1662
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:59,480
they're already submitted we this this

1663
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,880
is saying they get stopped no we can't I

1664
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:03,080
don't think so well that's what this

1665
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,280
says that's clearly what this says we

1666
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,639
can yeah it would I'm sorry this it

1667
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:09,800
would be suspended based on this new

1668
01:15:07,639 --> 01:15:11,880
legislation you're amending you're

1669
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,560
amending the city code by passing this

1670
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,000
so we go retroactively it can yes can

1671
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,880
and the ordinance we put that in this

1672
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,400
ordinance to go retroactive to the

1673
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,480
application that is on pass we can make

1674
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,120
that more clear is that it's it's

1675
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:26,159
already in there I

1676
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,440
think we can look at it clarify that

1677
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:28,719
yeah we might want to clarify that if

1678
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:29,760
that's the case because that way we

1679
01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:32,199
cover

1680
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,040
ourselves I me and not an open end if

1681
01:15:32,199 --> 01:15:36,760
you don't mind please so that we're

1682
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,040
covered in any way because my

1683
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,800
understanding we discussed it prior to

1684
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,960
this to several more term that we we

1685
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,400
can't deal with the applicational file

1686
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,199
we just have to deal with the new ones

1687
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,400
that that is coming in Mr Williams had

1688
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:50,719
to stand up I know say it's important to

1689
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,679
make that distinction so if there are

1690
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:53,920
any individuals who are owning or in the

1691
01:15:52,679 --> 01:15:56,719
process of getting their application

1692
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,920
reviewed for a smoker vate shop I think

1693
01:15:56,719 --> 01:16:00,159
the the discussion around a moratorium I

1694
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,120
think we were all in agreement we're

1695
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:05,320
saying stop so I think stop a little bit

1696
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,440
essentially is not addressing the issue

1697
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,800
so I do remember Mr Cen previously

1698
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:10,000
saying that if they were in that review

1699
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,120
process but thank you for the

1700
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,360
clarification I think regardless of what

1701
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,280
state you're in in that review process

1702
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,960
we're saying stop flow is the time to

1703
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,320
review the uh the corridors or the

1704
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,280
overlays and then we will reopen when we

1705
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,800
are are better suited to address some of

1706
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,920
the issues that our committee members

1707
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,920
have

1708
01:16:28,679 --> 01:16:34,000
identified so I just want to um to make

1709
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,400
sure that you know it says cannabis so I

1710
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,880
just want to make sure that legally

1711
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,480
that's something we can do because smoke

1712
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,239
shop and cannabis I remember they you

1713
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:43,440
said it was like similar uses I want to

1714
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:47,679
make sure that we can't we can separate

1715
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:50,560
that out um and not have it in there um

1716
01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:54,520
so that we're not having any difficulty

1717
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:58,000
regarding that and um so and also I I'll

1718
01:16:54,520 --> 01:17:00,159
give with you and so also so for this

1719
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,440
moratorium we actually have to just we

1720
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:05,040
can't just pass the moratorium we have

1721
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:06,560
to actually change our code we can't

1722
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,360
pass the moror with that because that

1723
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,719
that kicks the process down the road a

1724
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:13,120
little bit well I mean what this

1725
01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:15,120
moratorium does means you you want to

1726
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,719
look at your code you know you don't

1727
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:20,840
have to do anything during the code I

1728
01:17:17,719 --> 01:17:23,719
mean you because you may decide not to

1729
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,159
do it but you want you're pausing things

1730
01:17:23,719 --> 01:17:27,960
because you're thinking about without

1731
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:30,560
amending it we can't you the final

1732
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,560
product of the the legislative process

1733
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,400
may not you know not everybody will be

1734
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:38,679
happy with it I don't know it's it's

1735
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:42,360
unforeseen but um but the idea is to

1736
01:17:38,679 --> 01:17:45,120
stop it and then allow the legislative

1737
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,639
process to go through and then finally

1738
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,120
adopt it you'll have another public

1739
01:17:46,639 --> 01:17:50,080
hearing on the amending of the zoning

1740
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:52,960
ordinance so that's what I want to

1741
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:55,400
clarify um that because Miss barash said

1742
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,120
that this would be like many the code so

1743
01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:00,120
it's really two separate things it's uh

1744
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:01,679
it's doing the moratorium and then we if

1745
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,600
we wanted to change all the language in

1746
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:04,639
the code then that that's that's a whole

1747
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,239
separate thing and that's a whole

1748
01:18:04,639 --> 01:18:08,760
another public hearing because it's

1749
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:10,280
anytime anytime you deal with the you

1750
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,600
know the zoning code or the building

1751
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,320
code or whatever you need to have a

1752
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:17,280
public hearing so yes so there'll be

1753
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:20,600
another public hearing once we get

1754
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,280
that legislation together and uh and

1755
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,960
it'll be ready for a public hearing for

1756
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:28,159
review and comment thank you Mr Farley

1757
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:30,760
oh I'm sorry did I overlook you miss

1758
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:33,239
Patrick I can go after Mr Farley Mr

1759
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:35,000
Farley thank you um so I guess my

1760
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:37,040
question around so it you know it reads

1761
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,199
no previously admitted applications for

1762
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:42,159
building permits and land use approvals

1763
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:45,280
for vape shops smoke Etc I guess my

1764
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:49,840
question is if someone has put in their

1765
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:53,239
um application and they have already uh

1766
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:55,679
got approval but haven't maybe opened

1767
01:18:53,239 --> 01:18:57,520
their vape shop yet or saying that even

1768
01:18:55,679 --> 01:18:58,400
after their approval we're saying if

1769
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,280
they're

1770
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:04,120
approved they've gotten their

1771
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:05,719
certificate then they can move forward

1772
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:09,000
if it's the issue whether they've

1773
01:19:05,719 --> 01:19:13,280
submitted an application or

1774
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:14,480
not if it's we've approved it um well if

1775
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,639
it's been approved then it would move

1776
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:21,719
forward but this would this would halt

1777
01:19:17,639 --> 01:19:25,800
anyone to send application process yeah

1778
01:19:21,719 --> 01:19:28,040
okay yes just follow on that because um

1779
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,840
couple months ago we had a enforcement

1780
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:34,239
process was going on court enforcement

1781
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,960
with the mayor and that was a long runal

1782
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:37,600
process where they are submitting their

1783
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,679
application they are submitting people

1784
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,719
working find come in compliance so you

1785
01:19:40,679 --> 01:19:45,320
we're saying that all that effort is

1786
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:48,400
going to come to a preing h because they

1787
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:51,560
are in the process they are maybe 80%

1788
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:53,960
75% I mean based on based on this

1789
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,440
particular language it would if you

1790
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,520
would like something different we can

1791
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:00,400
amend this language yeah we we we we

1792
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,760
might yeah because we have we have a

1793
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,280
process that's ongo there's an

1794
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,679
enforcement already ongoing from code

1795
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:09,080
enforcement to bring these shops in

1796
01:20:06,679 --> 01:20:11,719
compliance so by putting that in there

1797
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,400
we'll stop all that effort or bring in

1798
01:20:11,719 --> 01:20:15,880
those business that was we from since

1799
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:18,320
last year trying to get themselves in

1800
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,280
compliance okay so that was prior to my

1801
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,320
10 year here so um when you say bring

1802
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:25,000
them into compliance you mean they open

1803
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:27,080
they open without

1804
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,520
in the process of getting all that

1805
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:33,960
documentation and getting inspection and

1806
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:38,520
the okay so we I want to look at that um

1807
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:42,760
that report like a date have a

1808
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:44,440
date we can put a particular date by

1809
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,520
like a cut off date yeah we can look at

1810
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:50,040
the last

1811
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:52,440
the I can forward it to you but have a

1812
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,280
copy of the last of the most updated um

1813
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:56,480
version from code enforcement so that

1814
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:59,960
way you can attracted by the dates have

1815
01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:01,920
anything to that extent or beyond that

1816
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:04,400
can be u

1817
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:06,280
c okay I understand what you're saying

1818
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,760
all right Miss Patrick mran did you want

1819
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,400
to add something just you know I'm

1820
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,679
hearing a lot you know hearing a lot of

1821
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:15,760
you tweaks to this so I think the best

1822
01:21:12,679 --> 01:21:18,280
practice would probably be take we'll

1823
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:20,960
take your comments we'll retweet this

1824
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:24,000
again and then we'll we submit it back

1825
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:26,239
to you for you know a final review based

1826
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,280
on your comment you provided here to and

1827
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:31,760
for us to uh research some other aspects

1828
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:35,120
that you all brought up this evening

1829
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:38,560
okay Miss Patrick well I mean if

1830
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:42,040
somebody is open

1831
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:44,960
illegally I'm okay with them not being

1832
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:47,719
able to keep going with the process I

1833
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,560
mean I think we should shut them down um

1834
01:21:47,719 --> 01:21:51,719
is that I I is that what you're saying

1835
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,960
you're saying they they they still have

1836
01:21:51,719 --> 01:21:55,120
the chance to continue open Cote

1837
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,840
enforcements bringing them into

1838
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,199
compliance and that was the document

1839
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,679
that was shared to us so we need to know

1840
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:02,920
where they are in terms of that and then

1841
01:22:00,679 --> 01:22:05,080
there should be a cut off period as to

1842
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,159
say exactly this is the date that is cut

1843
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:10,320
off anybody beyond that they have to

1844
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:13,320
wait on the 6 months moratorium and

1845
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:18,040
follow the new zoning

1846
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:19,080
rules so sometimes uh I mean often times

1847
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,719
people

1848
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:24,280
submit uh for certificates of use and

1849
01:22:21,719 --> 01:22:25,800
they're denied and they have to resubmit

1850
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,760
so

1851
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,440
so there

1852
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,639
may they there may be businesses that

1853
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:34,040
have

1854
01:22:31,639 --> 01:22:37,120
pending applications for certificates of

1855
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:40,920
use that will ultimately be denied but

1856
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:44,239
if this were to pass if you were to pass

1857
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:47,040
this they wouldn't be able to

1858
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:49,880
Reit so I mean again we can change the

1859
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:52,239
language we just need to understand what

1860
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,840
language you're looking for specifically

1861
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:57,159
like what's your intent on something

1862
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:59,560
like that okay Mr Toro um just in the in

1863
01:22:57,159 --> 01:23:02,000
the updated sheet that Mr mudaron did

1864
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,719
provide to us I'd say out of how many

1865
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,560
were on there I don't think any of them

1866
01:23:03,719 --> 01:23:07,840
have in 6 months have even bothered to

1867
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,679
try to come into compliance maybe one or

1868
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,080
two yeah there a few there a few of them

1869
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:14,880
they still working couple but otherwise

1870
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:18,080
we really haven't heard from any of them

1871
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:20,239
may and there is a wide

1872
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,520
variance in that where people have

1873
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:25,280
opened and haven't followed any of the

1874
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,679
rules and then so the Corporation

1875
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,880
Council points out they're Summit of

1876
01:23:26,679 --> 01:23:32,320
open they may have technical issues or

1877
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,719
paperwork isn't quite to what we'd like

1878
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,480
and so we try and work with them to

1879
01:23:34,719 --> 01:23:39,840
bring it up to a level of compliance and

1880
01:23:37,480 --> 01:23:43,199
the only other thing uh would submit to

1881
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:46,159
you talking about a 90day moreor here is

1882
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:48,480
actually pick a date is it 90 days from

1883
01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:50,440
the day the council passed it is 90 days

1884
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,920
that the mayor signs it is it 90 days

1885
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:55,920
when it goes back to the cour to be

1886
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:58,040
filed some sort mhm you know do the end

1887
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,239
of May or maybe the 1 of June I think

1888
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:03,600
that would be a little bit over 90 days

1889
01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:05,960
but something so it's a clear reference

1890
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,199
uh so that internally for our controls

1891
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:11,600
than just the public knowing what the

1892
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:14,320
deadlines are okay Mr far yeah I just I

1893
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,920
just think that uh given deference to

1894
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,199
Corporation Council I I think that their

1895
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,600
idea around taking you know the new

1896
01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:21,040
information that some of us have shared

1897
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,239
here and being giving them an

1898
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,159
opportunity to um research any issues

1899
01:24:23,239 --> 01:24:26,719
that have been raised and kind of um to

1900
01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:28,159
clean it up a little bit and present it

1901
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:30,639
back to us for lack better ter I think

1902
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:34,800
that there I would just agree with that

1903
01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:36,920
course of action thank you um

1904
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,440
so it looks like that's what's that's

1905
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,719
going to happen this point so and this

1906
01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:43,119
is just generally um I think that we

1907
01:24:41,719 --> 01:24:45,440
should be looking at all certificate of

1908
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:47,040
occupancy not just these particular ones

1909
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:49,440
and and and with is everyone in

1910
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,719
compliance because I'm not I'm not bad

1911
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:54,480
I'm not going for S but as May mentioned

1912
01:24:51,719 --> 01:24:56,000
the last time but I I I'm sure that I'm

1913
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:58,040
not I'm more than sure that there are

1914
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,719
some businesses out there that don't

1915
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:02,440
have a certificate of occupancy so as

1916
01:25:00,719 --> 01:25:04,440
we're talking about I know we're

1917
01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:07,080
focusing on this just one particular

1918
01:25:04,440 --> 01:25:09,199
type of business but that relates to all

1919
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,880
businesses and so as we're doing that

1920
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:13,239
enforcement or just talking to people

1921
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,560
and say bringing you know you need to

1922
01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:18,400
bring um this you need to bring this up

1923
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:21,480
to have a signific of occupancy which

1924
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:23,560
generates into Revenue so I think that

1925
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:25,360
we should be looking at all of them and

1926
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,600
I know that something's code enforcement

1927
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,719
but I just really want to make sure that

1928
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,679
we put that out there that we're just

1929
01:25:27,719 --> 01:25:33,360
not focusing on one particular business

1930
01:25:30,679 --> 01:25:35,840
does in everyone the same rule applies

1931
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:38,119
in terms of certificate occupancy so I

1932
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,400
think we're just at this moment talking

1933
01:25:38,119 --> 01:25:41,719
specifically about those types of

1934
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:44,800
businesses because that's what the

1935
01:25:41,719 --> 01:25:46,760
moratorium deals with um I can say you

1936
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,440
know in corporation council's office

1937
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,199
that you know we are reviewing

1938
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:54,600
certificates of use and we apply the

1939
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:58,239
same um you know we we look at the same

1940
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,159
way under the suspend our review well

1941
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,600
really what I'm talking about code

1942
01:25:59,159 --> 01:26:03,080
enforcement making sure that they get to

1943
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,600
you that's really that so everyone has

1944
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,920
one whatever the process is beginning

1945
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,800
whatever the beginning process is that

1946
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,719
we need to make sure that we're engaging

1947
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:13,400
in that

1948
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:15,880
sure Mr M just are you moving your hand

1949
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:18,360
around saying

1950
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:20,040
hi so we we we will take into

1951
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,440
consideration all the comments over here

1952
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,679
and then put them into the draft and

1953
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:24,719
then send them back to us with regards

1954
01:26:22,679 --> 01:26:26,159
to looking at the the app that we

1955
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:29,000
haven't filed the enforcement that is

1956
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,960
currently in place from code enforcement

1957
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,480
in terms of looking at the Timeline when

1958
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,119
those application was filed and look at

1959
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,880
the draft to kind of cut that off that

1960
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:40,719
your

1961
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:43,199
time yes and um like the mayor said we

1962
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:45,119
we try to work with businesses to get

1963
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:47,800
them into compliance however there may

1964
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:50,679
be here and there uh

1965
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:53,840
if if their application is

1966
01:26:50,679 --> 01:26:55,280
denied and they have to resubmit it may

1967
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:59,080
be after after this date and they may

1968
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:01,800
not be able to for the 90 days

1969
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:04,119
well when we say deny we we can deny for

1970
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,800
a simple letter from the state or deny a

1971
01:27:04,119 --> 01:27:07,360
simple letter from the country so we

1972
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,360
have to look into into those

1973
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:13,040
consideration yeah we I'm I guess I'm

1974
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:15,239
saying if their application for

1975
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,800
certificate of use is not sufficient if

1976
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:19,600
it doesn't meet all the requirements set

1977
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,520
forth in the code um sometimes we're

1978
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,360
able to get have them Rectify it but

1979
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,800
sometimes based on it depends on what

1980
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,400
the particular ISS issue is some issues

1981
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,960
cannot be rectified in the current

1982
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:33,360
application and they have to resubmit um

1983
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:35,520
so I'm just saying

1984
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,639
that the some of the businesses that

1985
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,480
you're referring to I don't I don't know

1986
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:40,239
I have to look go back and look at

1987
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:42,639
everything that's pending but if they

1988
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:44,440
were to be denied uh if it's not

1989
01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:47,480
something that can be corrected in the

1990
01:27:44,440 --> 01:27:49,760
current application it could be after

1991
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:52,000
the moreor takes effect and then they

1992
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,760
would not be able okay so I would like

1993
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,239
if we can just add the into the draft if

1994
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,880
it cannot corrected then they

1995
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:02,520
automatically U get denied then okay

1996
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,719
then I okay yeah we I can share that um

1997
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:08,320
that recort that we got from the M sure

1998
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:11,880
okay Mr ble do you have a hand up

1999
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:13,080
no yeah just to you final clarification

2000
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,080
that this

2001
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,760
moratorium is dealing with building

2002
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:20,239
permits and certificates of occupancy

2003
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:24,159
certificat of use and land land use

2004
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:27,040
approvals limited to smoke shops Vape

2005
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:30,239
shops and to Tobacco or VAP Vape

2006
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:32,400
consumption businesses as the state has

2007
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:34,159
as they have no Statewide regulation so

2008
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,800
just to clarify that point this

2009
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:39,679
moratorium is as you all brought out

2010
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:42,000
it's just dealing with those areas and

2011
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:44,480
that's what it's dealing with and then

2012
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:47,320
we'll tweak it as far as end date tweak

2013
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:49,480
it on the certific you know application

2014
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:52,639
dates for for for people who put their

2015
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:55,040
applications in and uh and we'll bring

2016
01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:57,600
it back to you okay are there more

2017
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,080
questions Mr Williams yes I just had a

2018
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,560
comment and I wanted to intentionally

2019
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,400
say like with respect to the no

2020
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,719
previously submitted applications I do

2021
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,719
find myself in agreement with Miss uh

2022
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:08,679
Patrick and Mr Toro and I think the

2023
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:10,320
conversation of us even discussing a

2024
01:29:08,679 --> 01:29:12,880
moratorium highlights that we are no

2025
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:15,040
longer able to effectively enforce this

2026
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:20,080
so I think saying that you're going to

2027
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:22,400
stop the uh opening of more uh uh vapor

2028
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,080
smoke chops including the other areas

2029
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,040
but then allowing some additionals to

2030
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,239
work their way through the review

2031
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,679
process I think we're we're we're

2032
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:30,239
sending two different messages to the

2033
01:29:27,679 --> 01:29:31,760
community um even with the process of

2034
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:33,840
the law office reviewing it and giving

2035
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,840
us revisions that is additional time for

2036
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,760
people to come into compliance so I just

2037
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,320
urge anyone listening to heed that we

2038
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,119
are discussing this and to take that

2039
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,920
into consideration and hopefully those

2040
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:45,840
individuals are talking to you but I

2041
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,719
think ultimately is this going to affect

2042
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,560
certain businesses absolutely but we're

2043
01:29:47,719 --> 01:29:52,400
not saying no forever it is just no for

2044
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:55,600
the 90 days for us to review it if that

2045
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,600
makes sense

2046
01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:01,000
so I just want to make sure that we're

2047
01:29:57,719 --> 01:30:03,080
clear that so because I'm like I'm a

2048
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,480
little concerned and if we can if

2049
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,440
there's Pro if there's people alreadying

2050
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:08,840
process if we're on good legal standing

2051
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:10,280
quite frankly to be able to do that when

2052
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,040
they've gone to the process the last

2053
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,639
thing we want to do is pass something

2054
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,159
that brings us uh you know somebody

2055
01:30:13,639 --> 01:30:17,480
brings up a lawsuit they can't do this

2056
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:18,520
because and all these reasons so I want

2057
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:21,040
to make sure we're on good legal

2058
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:23,239
standing I do have a concern that people

2059
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,560
who are in the process not that I'm I'm

2060
01:30:23,239 --> 01:30:28,679
not uh advocating uh for this particular

2061
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,639
type of business but I also want to make

2062
01:30:28,679 --> 01:30:32,239
sure that we are not targeting and and

2063
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:35,920
and going against this type of business

2064
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:38,400
specifically so God bless you so if

2065
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,480
we're um if I so I have some concerns

2066
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,440
that are people in the process that we

2067
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:44,239
just shut them down like that because

2068
01:30:42,440 --> 01:30:46,040
they went into the process with the

2069
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:49,320
understanding that you know you need to

2070
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:51,000
do ABC so I just really want to be clear

2071
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,960
that we're okay doing that when people

2072
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,639
are already in the process extremely

2073
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,320
important that we're doing that

2074
01:30:54,639 --> 01:30:59,239
Mr car I I I want to say I I share your

2075
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:01,320
concern around that I think that um

2076
01:30:59,239 --> 01:31:03,239
listening to um what our community has

2077
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,159
been telling us and what we can see you

2078
01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:07,360
know moving around our city ourselves

2079
01:31:05,159 --> 01:31:09,080
there's definitely we've seen an influx

2080
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,480
of of these businesses um kind of

2081
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:14,360
popping up and um a lot of them aren't

2082
01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:16,960
you know are not in compliance um but I

2083
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:19,080
do uh I'm definitely not advocating um

2084
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,560
based on you know this business based on

2085
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:23,520
information that that that's been shared

2086
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:25,080
with us um but I am also I'm a little

2087
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,119
concerned about someone who entered the

2088
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:31,239
process in good faith and is like

2089
01:31:27,119 --> 01:31:33,080
working towards um getting their uh

2090
01:31:31,239 --> 01:31:35,639
appropriate documents in order then

2091
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:38,280
telling them

2092
01:31:35,639 --> 01:31:39,280
that no kind of stopping them in that

2093
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,600
way so I just think that that's

2094
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,719
something that we need

2095
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,520
to think about yes Miss Patrick except I

2096
01:31:43,719 --> 01:31:47,320
think that we are trying to stop the

2097
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,360
influx of these types of this is

2098
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,600
specific to this type of business and I

2099
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,960
think that we have been for months

2100
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:57,159
talking about this and talking about the

2101
01:31:53,960 --> 01:32:01,360
health risks especially to our youth um

2102
01:31:57,159 --> 01:32:04,159
and so I I mean it's really a fine line

2103
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:06,199
I get that um but at the same time I

2104
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:09,000
think we've identified we've heard from

2105
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:11,560
business owners we've heard from I mean

2106
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:13,880
you know that it's you you can see you

2107
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,600
can see just go to Upper Union Street as

2108
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,880
an example and you can see that it's

2109
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,880
affecting the businesses around the

2110
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:22,080
other stores so I think we are

2111
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,280
specifically targeting to your point we

2112
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,800
are specifically targeting these stores

2113
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:29,679
we are making a judgment call here that

2114
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:33,520
these particular stores are

2115
01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:36,560
affecting um neighborhoods are affecting

2116
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:40,440
business districts are affecting Health

2117
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:42,400
um of residents um and so I do want to

2118
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:44,560
say that yeah we are I mean that's what

2119
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,480
this is so rather than thinking about

2120
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:50,040
all of our businesses we are saying

2121
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:53,440
smoke and vape shops here um we've had

2122
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:58,760
numerous presentations by uh the Smoke

2123
01:32:53,440 --> 01:33:02,119
free New York people about about this

2124
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:03,679
um I I think you know I hear what the

2125
01:33:02,119 --> 01:33:06,040
mayor's saying about a date but I mean

2126
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:08,360
if we have to now wait two more

2127
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:11,600
weeks to get we are going to have to

2128
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:14,520
wait two more weeks to get this back now

2129
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:16,480
um so when do we start yeah no I get

2130
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:19,080
that I know what I'm just saying I mean

2131
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:21,040
you know I mean when do we get to so the

2132
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:24,960
previously submitted applications if

2133
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:28,040
they're not open yet as stores

2134
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,520
you know do we want them to open um you

2135
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,560
know I'm kind of thinking we don't want

2136
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:35,840
them to open um I hear what you're

2137
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:37,480
saying I do um and believe me I remember

2138
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,320
you know before I was on Council there

2139
01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:42,760
was discussion here because of some

2140
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:45,960
liquor stores that were um on the Block

2141
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:48,719
um you know at that at that time as well

2142
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,840
um but so we are making a judgment right

2143
01:33:48,719 --> 01:33:51,440
but I want to make sure we're on good

2144
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,920
legal standing I want to make sure that

2145
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:55,400
there's not but I think yeah so we do

2146
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,639
need that clarification about the

2147
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,400
previous new submitted applications and

2148
01:33:57,639 --> 01:34:03,159
I do think that we should put June 1 for

2149
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:05,679
example as an end date if that's the

2150
01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:08,960
date that we all agree on that's my

2151
01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:11,040
last Mr Farley no I I I just want to

2152
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:13,280
kind of Echo and amen lot what you were

2153
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,719
saying because I I I agree with the what

2154
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,520
what our communities are telling us and

2155
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:19,520
the information and presentations that

2156
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:21,920
we have uh uh been having and you know a

2157
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:24,880
lot of um good information so I agree

2158
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:27,080
that these you know these are not not uh

2159
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,920
type of businesses that we want um

2160
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,800
popping up everywhere the way they are I

2161
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:34,960
just think that there is a balance that

2162
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:38,080
we have to be mindful of for any

2163
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:40,199
business that's operating or is entering

2164
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,119
into an agreement in good faith with the

2165
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:45,800
city even if it's a business that we

2166
01:34:42,119 --> 01:34:47,920
don't necessarily um um personally

2167
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,920
aren't fond of you know if someone is is

2168
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,000
is entering in good in a good faith

2169
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:56,679
effort thus far to kind of retroactively

2170
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,760
say no I just you know it's one of those

2171
01:34:56,679 --> 01:35:01,520
things

2172
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,360
that you know do you know if if it's the

2173
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,639
right thing to do but do we have the

2174
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,280
right to do it kind of thing you know

2175
01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:09,520
what I mean that's

2176
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:13,440
right that's where we need the

2177
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:14,760
recommendation to look at and see I'm

2178
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:16,040
sorry I just have to say this that

2179
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,760
because people have complained to me

2180
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:20,920
that we're like talking over each other

2181
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,560
so one voice thank you so um and that's

2182
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,560
what I asked for look into that and get

2183
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:27,000
back to us because um do we have the

2184
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,880
legal capacity to kind of like shut them

2185
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,239
off despite the fact that they submitted

2186
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,159
six months ago y if we can do that

2187
01:35:31,239 --> 01:35:35,159
that's fine if we can then we need to

2188
01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:38,480
address them one by one and just you

2189
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:40,080
know tell them exactly that they're not

2190
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:42,239
they're not in compliance because of

2191
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:44,800
documentation or they just need

2192
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:47,159
to do you have something more Miss

2193
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:51,119
Patrick

2194
01:35:47,159 --> 01:35:53,960
mayor okay Mr Toro did you have more

2195
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:56,040
okay so Mr M I just wanted to to um I'm

2196
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,440
sorry gentlemen you more William Mr

2197
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:03,760
parley okay so what you're asking the

2198
01:35:58,440 --> 01:36:05,560
mayor to provide is no I'm not asking um

2199
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,960
we'll be able can we get another update

2200
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,880
on that spreadsheet to see where they

2201
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,040
are in terms of any movement there could

2202
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:12,560
be movement on that sheet so yes the

2203
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,280
last can see and that hopefully there is

2204
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:18,679
movement every day unfortunately there

2205
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:21,560
are places that are opening every

2206
01:36:18,679 --> 01:36:23,239
day also so we we'll see the ones that

2207
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,000
we have't filed where they are and if

2208
01:36:23,239 --> 01:36:27,280
they not not U making any good faith

2209
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,520
effort to continue the process or not

2210
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,800
filing the documents then they are those

2211
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,040
are the ones that will have to

2212
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,760
eventually

2213
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:37,040
um put them out of business

2214
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,840
unfortunately and so so mayor just a

2215
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:40,520
question so we are um the ones that are

2216
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,040
already open we we're having code

2217
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,280
enforcement visit to see that they're in

2218
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:46,159
compliance CU there is there are a lot

2219
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:48,520
of them that there I think nobody can

2220
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:50,000
disagree there are there a lot so code

2221
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:54,000
enforcement is still doing

2222
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:55,880
that okay and when you have that list if

2223
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,840
you're out the neighborhoods and you see

2224
01:36:55,880 --> 01:37:01,679
something that's not on the list send

2225
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:03,400
that in also some these good idea

2226
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:05,800
entirely

2227
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:08,040
bypass the

2228
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:11,719
system that's a good

2229
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,719
idea okay so

2230
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:19,520
um is there any more discussion on that

2231
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,920
okay so Mr uh O'Brien will'll see this

2232
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,639
back in two weeks with the tweaks yes or

2233
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,199
we'll see the tweaks before that right

2234
01:37:23,639 --> 01:37:27,639
we'll see the twe you'll see it

2235
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:30,000
beforehand for your we'll we'll bring

2236
01:37:27,639 --> 01:37:32,560
this back to discuss it in two weeks all

2237
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:36,400
right thank you very

2238
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:38,560
much um so item number six is um

2239
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,639
proceeding to uh recover possession of

2240
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:43,520
real property I mean I'm sorry home rule

2241
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:45,560
request and support of Bill number a

2242
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:48,679
7556 s

2243
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:50,440
7547 requiring a petition in a summary

2244
01:37:48,679 --> 01:37:52,639
proceeding to recover possession of real

2245
01:37:50,440 --> 01:37:54,520
property incity to allege proof of

2246
01:37:52,639 --> 01:37:57,280
compliance with local laws requiring

2247
01:37:54,520 --> 01:38:00,040
rental residential property registration

2248
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:02,880
and licensure and mayor

2249
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:05,599
McCarthy thank you madam president this

2250
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:10,159
is something passed

2251
01:38:05,599 --> 01:38:14,080
before what this would do is require

2252
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:16,639
anybody who is starting an eviction

2253
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,960
proceeding they have to be compliant

2254
01:38:16,639 --> 01:38:20,679
with the rental

2255
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:23,520
certificate so that if you haven't

2256
01:38:20,679 --> 01:38:25,679
gotten the rental certificate and you're

2257
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:28,719
department is in non-compliance you

2258
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:31,560
would not be able to evict somebody it's

2259
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:35,719
unfortunate today we have what I believe

2260
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:38,960
is a good policy in place we have a

2261
01:38:35,719 --> 01:38:41,440
large number of landlords who comply

2262
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:44,119
with it there unfortunately are still a

2263
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:46,960
significant number who don't comply with

2264
01:38:44,119 --> 01:38:51,840
it and those tend to be ones that there

2265
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:53,040
may be other problems uh and people

2266
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:58,159
sometimes are put in vulnerable

2267
01:38:53,040 --> 01:39:00,639
situations ations and this will get our

2268
01:38:58,159 --> 01:39:04,000
compliance rate up hopefully to a higher

2269
01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:06,400
level and also allow us to uh help

2270
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:08,920
ensure that safe and decent housing is

2271
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:12,159
made available in the city of skincity

2272
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:14,480
across the board to everybody so um so

2273
01:39:12,159 --> 01:39:16,400
is there an online process for um for

2274
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:19,199
people to be able to do

2275
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,199
this we still do an inspection too so

2276
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:23,880
yes you

2277
01:39:20,199 --> 01:39:26,159
can start the application but there's an

2278
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:28,760
inspection process so and the reason

2279
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:30,040
because when this was on the agenda so I

2280
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,159
got a call from someone who lives out of

2281
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,920
town so they have a person here that you

2282
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:36,199
know takes care of their property so

2283
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:38,599
they can do it online they have to do

2284
01:39:36,199 --> 01:39:40,199
rental there's to be an agent to and so

2285
01:39:38,599 --> 01:39:41,599
they have an agent right so they can do

2286
01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:43,800
it online but their agent needs to be

2287
01:39:41,599 --> 01:39:46,599
present here for um but we still have to

2288
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,960
do an inspection of the property yes

2289
01:39:46,599 --> 01:39:49,360
right so their agent could could let you

2290
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,040
and doesn't have to be the owner of the

2291
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,719
property necessarily and we're looking

2292
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:55,719
all the time to how you put more things

2293
01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:58,119
online make them more user

2294
01:39:55,719 --> 01:40:00,159
friendly okay thank you just wanted to

2295
01:39:58,119 --> 01:40:02,639
make sure we had an online

2296
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:06,080
process uh so any further questions

2297
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:07,440
regarding that yes Mr Williams I think

2298
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:10,760
comment just to put some thought behind

2299
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:12,679
it I think we had uh the department of

2300
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:15,159
uh HUD came and did a presentation at

2301
01:40:12,679 --> 01:40:17,239
syum a few months ago and very much it's

2302
01:40:15,159 --> 01:40:19,880
how do you get this information to the

2303
01:40:17,239 --> 01:40:21,599
people that it affects um cuz I think

2304
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:23,080
often times they're functioning without

2305
01:40:21,599 --> 01:40:26,239
this understanding and still being taken

2306
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:29,280
advant vage of uh I agree and support

2307
01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:30,719
this moving forward um but just trying

2308
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,880
to put some thought behind is there any

2309
01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:34,760
way we can just push this narrative to

2310
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:37,400
the community either put it out in uh

2311
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,960
local libraries or just some way to make

2312
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,679
uh tenants and both landlords like fully

2313
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,760
aware of this process so they have this

2314
01:40:40,679 --> 01:40:44,719
information ahead of having to start

2315
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:47,639
this

2316
01:40:44,719 --> 01:40:51,040
process so is there a marketing

2317
01:40:47,639 --> 01:40:54,560
piece I'll do that with we don't have

2318
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:55,840
one right now but yes more than will to

2319
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,360
put something together and it's part of

2320
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:01,159
the messaging we're looking at modifying

2321
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:03,520
the trash collection rules other

2322
01:41:01,159 --> 01:41:06,000
things Michelle had put together a

2323
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:09,440
summary really recently just the process

2324
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:12,440
to open a business so that people kind

2325
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:15,719
of know it but you know there's a simple

2326
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:18,159
checklist that people can walk down

2327
01:41:15,719 --> 01:41:19,840
and do it with a level of comfort they

2328
01:41:18,159 --> 01:41:22,119
know what they have to do when they have

2329
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:23,880
to do it to uh get to where they want to

2330
01:41:22,119 --> 01:41:26,000
be so

2331
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,880
Mr Williams that yes an education

2332
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:32,719
component is always key to making things

2333
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:34,119
successful Mr will was your handle yes I

2334
01:41:32,719 --> 01:41:36,520
was saying um yeah we can we can reach

2335
01:41:34,119 --> 01:41:38,599
out to The Landlord Association and to

2336
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,119
help them to to drive this to us because

2337
01:41:38,599 --> 01:41:43,880
this is a important piece of legislation

2338
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:45,320
in terms of safety because I will tell

2339
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,880
you that there are apartment there that

2340
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,840
doesn't have inspection and people are

2341
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,960
not living in the the safety standard

2342
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:53,239
that it's supposed to be living in and

2343
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,960
um it's a problem over there so this l

2344
01:41:53,239 --> 01:41:57,520
legislation and hope it passed the

2345
01:41:54,960 --> 01:42:00,199
assembly and can be enforced locally by

2346
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,000
LS will bring all these um landlord into

2347
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:04,760
compliance and make sure that they have

2348
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:07,560
a safe and livable apartment for for

2349
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,400
tenants out there and I think landlord

2350
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:12,040
um should not feel that they're victim

2351
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:14,840
of this it's protecting them also by

2352
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:16,599
having a rental certificate in in code

2353
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:18,599
enforcement and is filed there it give

2354
01:42:16,599 --> 01:42:21,520
them the legal uper hand on the legal

2355
01:42:18,599 --> 01:42:23,679
side to say that their apartment was um

2356
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:26,880
you know legally um

2357
01:42:23,679 --> 01:42:28,920
compliance they were inspected pass and

2358
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:31,000
a tenant is living there and now there

2359
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:33,639
are some issues and concern it's a

2360
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:36,199
different ball game so I think it's um

2361
01:42:33,639 --> 01:42:38,320
they will benefit more by having um a

2362
01:42:36,199 --> 01:42:41,560
rental certificates on filed for each

2363
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:44,040
tenant that occupy those

2364
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:46,239
apartments Mr BR yeah I was just going

2365
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,719
to again kind of add on to that and just

2366
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:49,599
say that I think that what we're doing

2367
01:42:47,719 --> 01:42:51,040
here this is a really really again

2368
01:42:49,599 --> 01:42:53,920
important piece of legislation and I

2369
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:57,400
think that often times um some of our

2370
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:59,920
most vulnerable uh uh population within

2371
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:02,920
our city um are some some of the people

2372
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:04,679
who are taking advantage of um and kind

2373
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:07,360
of live in that substandard housing

2374
01:43:04,679 --> 01:43:10,320
situation so I think that you know one

2375
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:12,679
of the byproducts of that is you know

2376
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,639
safe housing but and and we also just

2377
01:43:12,679 --> 01:43:16,480
have to keep asking ourselves the right

2378
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:19,360
questions around how do we make coming

2379
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:22,199
into compliance um you know easy and

2380
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,960
accessible for landlords because what we

2381
01:43:22,199 --> 01:43:27,000
want to do is

2382
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:28,960
is is make it as user friendly as we can

2383
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:31,199
to come to compliance so then if

2384
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:33,480
somebody is not in compliance then we

2385
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:35,480
kind of know you know we've done our

2386
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:38,119
part so I just want to say I I support

2387
01:43:35,480 --> 01:43:41,800
this fully and hopefully this uh goes

2388
01:43:38,119 --> 01:43:45,000
through so I just did you Mr T just

2389
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:47,760
agree Mr okay so are you asking for a

2390
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:51,040
resolution or a um something in support

2391
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:52,480
of this is home rule legislation okay so

2392
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,320
you're asking for home rule or just a

2393
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:57,639
resolution supportive you're ask for the

2394
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:59,480
home but it's a home rule process so the

2395
01:43:57,639 --> 01:44:01,760
bills have been introduced this is one

2396
01:43:59,480 --> 01:44:04,800
we did before didn't quite go as smooth

2397
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:07,000
as we would have liked so it's to redo

2398
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,599
it again to actually get the legislation

2399
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,520
enacted so you want The Home Room okay

2400
01:44:09,599 --> 01:44:15,080
so um I need a

2401
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,760
motion Mr M your hand up or you no I was

2402
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,199
just going to make a comment to say that

2403
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,639
um when we're passing this home rule I

2404
01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:21,920
think there are two here that make sure

2405
01:44:19,639 --> 01:44:24,239
that we have all the mechanism in place

2406
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:28,239
to make sure that we processes and file

2407
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:31,000
for the state and I drop the ball on

2408
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:33,000
them and I hope that the council and May

2409
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,520
and his staff can work together so that

2410
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:38,440
we have this file with a relevant um

2411
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:40,800
agency in the

2412
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:43,880
Aly so moved

2413
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:46,440
second all those in favor

2414
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:49,080
all item number seven is the ceremonial

2415
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:51,920
resolution recognizing women's History

2416
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:54,040
Month yes so March is women's History

2417
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:56,639
Month this year um um and we've been

2418
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:58,920
doing this for the last X number of

2419
01:44:56,639 --> 01:45:02,440
years uh the ceremonial resolution about

2420
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:04,239
March this year um the theme for uh

2421
01:45:02,440 --> 01:45:06,400
women's history month is women who

2422
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:09,040
advocate for Equity diversity and

2423
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:11,599
inclusion um so I just would like to be

2424
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:14,119
able to have a ceremonial resolution

2425
01:45:11,599 --> 01:45:19,679
recognizing March as women's history Mar

2426
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:23,080
any discussion how second second second

2427
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:25,480
all in favor I thank you right um there

2428
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:27,320
is a couple other things I wanted to um

2429
01:45:25,480 --> 01:45:29,560
bring before before we go to Executive

2430
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,679
session uh the first one is I'm

2431
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:34,000
requesting the council to consider doing

2432
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:36,480
a ceremonial resolution for uh James

2433
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:39,360
Griffin he's an employee whose last day

2434
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:43,119
will be the 28th and he's a 40-year

2435
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:45,360
employee I want to publicly thank the um

2436
01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:48,280
staff person this their coworker in the

2437
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:50,280
city who brought this to um my attention

2438
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:53,199
that they felt that their employee their

2439
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:54,920
um colleague deserved some recognition

2440
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:57,440
after having it put in four decades with

2441
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:59,400
the city of SKC uh which I I

2442
01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:01,719
wholeheartedly agree with so I would

2443
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,679
just ask the council to consider um us

2444
01:46:01,719 --> 01:46:06,280
putting together a ceremonial resolution

2445
01:46:03,679 --> 01:46:06,280
for Mr

2446
01:46:07,679 --> 01:46:15,000
gin I'm the second all in

2447
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:17,599
favor Mr M I will ask you are you still

2448
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:20,960
interest yeah I I'd like to um to ask

2449
01:46:17,599 --> 01:46:23,520
for consideration to add a CR to

2450
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:25,480
recognize U Metro Ford for vehicle

2451
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:29,719
donation towards our Police Department

2452
01:46:25,480 --> 01:46:31,400
so use with our community um police um

2453
01:46:29,719 --> 01:46:33,239
officer program through our school

2454
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:36,199
district so the see to recognize their

2455
01:46:33,239 --> 01:46:38,880
valuable contribution um to the what is

2456
01:46:36,199 --> 01:46:42,199
it Mustang M he the people who out there

2457
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:44,599
have an opportunity to to visit it with

2458
01:46:42,199 --> 01:46:47,800
the mayor Mr Toro and that's a wonderful

2459
01:46:44,599 --> 01:46:49,560
guest you're from uh Metro for and a CR

2460
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,840
would go a along way to recognize their

2461
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:56,639
contribution towards our

2462
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:58,800
city so move second all in favor I leave

2463
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:01,000
out of that where council member Doro

2464
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,560
was spinning the wheels no we can't I

2465
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:07,480
can't say

2466
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:08,159
that 0 to 60 fast Mr does it go from 0

2467
01:47:07,480 --> 01:47:11,520
to

2468
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:15,199
60 the answer was

2469
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:18,239
fast all right sry so move in second

2470
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:19,800
where I set yes okay so then there's one

2471
01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:21,599
other last thing that I want to stress

2472
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:24,280
that we came up at our meeting last

2473
01:47:21,599 --> 01:47:26,560
Thursday and we having discussions about

2474
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,960
um the community benefits agreement we

2475
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,920
got an email from the mayor that there

2476
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:32,560
had already been one that was entered

2477
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:35,239
into um so that was signed the same day

2478
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:37,080
that we're having our discussions and um

2479
01:47:35,239 --> 01:47:38,679
I would just like to us to have the

2480
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,760
opportunity because what I read there

2481
01:47:38,679 --> 01:47:44,000
are some things in there that were

2482
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:45,440
discussed that um that weren't included

2483
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,280
so I'd like to know if there's an

2484
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:49,440
opportunity to revisit that and to add

2485
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:51,480
those things and um I just have to

2486
01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:52,960
really ask we were having that

2487
01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:55,199
discussion but it was signed on the same

2488
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:58,040
day so I just um I guess I'm a little

2489
01:47:55,199 --> 01:48:00,400
perplexed as to why that wasn't you know

2490
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,360
if it was already signed that we were

2491
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:05,880
having those discussions and it was

2492
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:07,880
already it was already done so um that

2493
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:10,119
that's my question

2494
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:14,800
there given the authorization to enter

2495
01:48:10,119 --> 01:48:17,440
into a contract I've moved ahead with it

2496
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:21,400
council's still looking at the aspects

2497
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:25,840
of uh Community benefits agreement uh

2498
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:27,320
Union develop ER County are open to

2499
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,080
discussion on that there's things that

2500
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,119
were Incorporated from the County's

2501
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,320
aspects there's things that are

2502
01:48:30,119 --> 01:48:35,280
Incorporated from the city's aspects and

2503
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:37,880
I look at it as a dynamic process but

2504
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:41,159
want the project to move

2505
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:43,760
ahead okay well go ahead no I was just

2506
01:48:41,159 --> 01:48:45,719
going to say that I know I'm this is

2507
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,560
almost kind of a quote unquote kind of

2508
01:48:45,719 --> 01:48:49,320
good problem to have because this is as

2509
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,400
a result of us moving forward with a

2510
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:55,000
project that's going to benefit our city

2511
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:57,920
um I just see this as more of a a a a a

2512
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:59,760
starting point and I think that if both

2513
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:03,679
parties or all parties involved seem to

2514
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:07,360
be open um to um getting feedback from

2515
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:09,480
the community and um more voices I think

2516
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:12,760
that that's that that will benefit this

2517
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:16,520
process and I think that as long as all

2518
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:18,320
parties are seem really uh interested in

2519
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:20,599
in having a meaningful Community

2520
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:22,880
benefits package that this isn't you

2521
01:49:20,599 --> 01:49:24,639
know something that you know we we

2522
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,920
couldn't amend along the way in fact I

2523
01:49:24,639 --> 01:49:28,679
think that we'd be well suited to do so

2524
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,239
in order to be more responsive to the

2525
01:49:28,679 --> 01:49:32,599
community so I just second that that

2526
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:34,360
this is something a good starting point

2527
01:49:32,599 --> 01:49:36,800
and we should kind of look at this as a

2528
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:39,400
living document living process moving

2529
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,920
forward and your hand

2530
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:44,679
up

2531
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:49,719
did I was going to but oh okay you do

2532
01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:51,159
you don't so um adding on um my inut I

2533
01:49:49,719 --> 01:49:53,159
think we're having a really candid

2534
01:49:51,159 --> 01:49:55,239
thoughtful conversation and I think for

2535
01:49:53,159 --> 01:49:57,280
myself it's understanding how a

2536
01:49:55,239 --> 01:49:58,920
community could submit to uh Community

2537
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,520
benefits agreements so I think in your

2538
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:03,040
comments you said that you'd be uh open

2539
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,760
to having those merge and then I've

2540
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,360
heard the comment of like Dynamic and

2541
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:09,480
living so I hope that as a city we'd be

2542
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:11,119
able to submit one document reflective

2543
01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:12,920
of the interest and needs for the

2544
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:15,880
neighborhoods as again I think just

2545
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:17,520
having multiple iterations just it seems

2546
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,239
convoluted and almost in an aspect like

2547
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:21,400
Waters Waters down the importance of

2548
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:24,480
having

2549
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:25,960
it well quite frankly you know we went

2550
01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:28,280
through a budget process where the

2551
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,679
council pushed the budget back where it

2552
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,480
was the latest budget we've ever had in

2553
01:50:29,679 --> 01:50:34,040
the history of the city there are three

2554
01:50:31,480 --> 01:50:37,360
items on the agenda tonight that should

2555
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:40,000
have been enacted last year they're not

2556
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:43,560
we got to go through another cycle uh

2557
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,560
the other item with the uh sidewalk

2558
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:48,159
again the council didn't that that in a

2559
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:51,199
timely manner so I look forward to

2560
01:50:48,159 --> 01:50:53,639
working with you but I'm going to move

2561
01:50:51,199 --> 01:50:57,000
some things ahead maybe a manner that

2562
01:50:53,639 --> 01:50:58,719
you find uh less than desirable but I

2563
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,719
got to manage the city I got to keep

2564
01:50:58,719 --> 01:51:03,639
moving projects so that they're actually

2565
01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:05,119
happening and we're getting results so

2566
01:51:03,639 --> 01:51:08,560
again I look forward to working with you

2567
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:11,920
look at it's a dynamic process that

2568
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:13,800
project is exciting other communities

2569
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,440
would are envious that we're doing it

2570
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,599
here and it's going to create

2571
01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:18,920
opportunities that we don't even think

2572
01:51:17,599 --> 01:51:22,840
of

2573
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:24,440
today I I don't disagree with um that um

2574
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,800
but I just think that communication is

2575
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:27,360
important and if this process was

2576
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,599
already you felt like you were being

2577
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:31,079
delayed and taken too long that to to

2578
01:51:29,599 --> 01:51:33,159
have communicated that to the council

2579
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:34,560
and that did not come forward and then

2580
01:51:33,159 --> 01:51:35,960
then we would know that the mayor feels

2581
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,800
like we need to you know move more

2582
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:40,840
quickly because based on what we did we

2583
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:42,599
had a meeting we we we then um called

2584
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:44,119
for our next meeting and everybody knew

2585
01:51:42,599 --> 01:51:45,880
when that was going to be so if it was

2586
01:51:44,119 --> 01:51:48,360
going to something happening before just

2587
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:50,000
communication to the council and um I

2588
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,760
know that you pointed out like all these

2589
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,320
things didn't happen so all this does

2590
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,920
not rest with the counc I have to say

2591
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:57,520
that some of that rests with the staff

2592
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,840
but we're not here to we we as a council

2593
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,599
said that we're going to work together

2594
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,639
collectively and along with you and

2595
01:52:00,599 --> 01:52:04,760
that's what we really want to do but you

2596
01:52:02,639 --> 01:52:07,280
know communication to us I'm certainly

2597
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:09,440
my phone is the same it's you know you

2598
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,800
can get emails just that we communicate

2599
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:13,400
so that we really are working together

2600
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,599
as working together works and that's you

2601
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,159
know that's the saying that's being put

2602
01:52:14,599 --> 01:52:17,520
out there so that's all I'm asking for

2603
01:52:16,159 --> 01:52:19,920
is that we just have that information

2604
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:22,840
communicated to us so we can act

2605
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:25,040
accordingly and again I will say that we

2606
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:28,320
talk about the past but no one's perfect

2607
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:30,040
at this table so um we have made a a

2608
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,320
very firm commitment about moving

2609
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:33,280
forward and I think that's what we

2610
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,840
should do and not necessarily just

2611
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:39,320
scratch the RS and scabs of the

2612
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:42,079
past Mr is your pen up yeah yeah well

2613
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:45,079
sure sure yeah thank you so I just I I

2614
01:52:42,079 --> 01:52:47,119
just would uh um kind of highlight the

2615
01:52:45,079 --> 01:52:50,000
fact that this is not an opportunity

2616
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:52,719
that has uh fled us at all I think that

2617
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:55,480
this is um you know again we still have

2618
01:52:52,719 --> 01:52:56,679
opportunity to um bring you know um any

2619
01:52:55,480 --> 01:52:58,760
of the suggestions that have been

2620
01:52:56,679 --> 01:53:01,159
discussed at the table of the council um

2621
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:03,920
I think that uh all the parties involved

2622
01:53:01,159 --> 01:53:06,440
seem to be um pretty intentional about

2623
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:10,599
wanting a a robust Community benefits

2624
01:53:06,440 --> 01:53:12,800
package so again as we have amended

2625
01:53:10,599 --> 01:53:14,239
other documents to better suit and

2626
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,000
practices to better suit the Deeds of

2627
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:18,040
the community I would say that this is

2628
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:20,400
that this is no different and if we

2629
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:22,599
focus on kind of looking forward to this

2630
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:24,280
you know how do we just you know make

2631
01:53:22,599 --> 01:53:27,239
sure we we getting some of the things

2632
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:29,840
that um you know that the the the

2633
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:32,119
existing benefits agreement didn't um

2634
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:35,639
include um things like you know uh

2635
01:53:32,119 --> 01:53:37,719
vendor opportunities for mwbe um you

2636
01:53:35,639 --> 01:53:39,320
know there's a you know what the

2637
01:53:37,719 --> 01:53:40,599
existing package covered a lot of good

2638
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,480
things and was really aligned with some

2639
01:53:40,599 --> 01:53:43,960
of the conversations that I've heard so

2640
01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:47,360
I think it's good but I think that we

2641
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:49,599
definitely um need to just makeing sure

2642
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:51,440
that the process is a more inclusive one

2643
01:53:49,599 --> 01:53:53,679
moving

2644
01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:55,280
forward and with the also inclusive of

2645
01:53:53,679 --> 01:53:56,639
the community because that it's called

2646
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,920
the community benefits agreement so I

2647
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:59,800
think that we also need to hear a little

2648
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,800
bit more Community voice as we move

2649
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:03,480
forward and not all everything just come

2650
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,159
from this table I mean I did mention

2651
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,040
that my the comments that I brought

2652
01:54:05,159 --> 01:54:09,079
forward were at a community meeting I

2653
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:11,280
was I was at but that wasn't called

2654
01:54:09,079 --> 01:54:12,599
specifically for that purpose but I did

2655
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:15,159
it because I was there in the community

2656
01:54:12,599 --> 01:54:17,239
was present so I think that if we um by

2657
01:54:15,159 --> 01:54:19,320
VAR its veryy nature Community benefits

2658
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:21,159
agreement need to include some some

2659
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,960
input from input from the community it

2660
01:54:21,159 --> 01:54:25,560
just makes sense I appreciate you

2661
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:27,520
bringing forward about the mwbe and also

2662
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,480
local hire as we're doing all these

2663
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:32,320
projects then you know to have make sure

2664
01:54:29,480 --> 01:54:34,719
that uh the people who are who live here

2665
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:36,159
uh locally are able to benefit from some

2666
01:54:34,719 --> 01:54:37,880
of the job opportunities that will come

2667
01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:39,760
forward from the construction it's going

2668
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,560
to be a very major $50 million

2669
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:44,280
construction project so to see some of

2670
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,639
make sure that money um circulates

2671
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,719
within the within the city I'm just

2672
01:54:45,639 --> 01:54:49,960
going to be real specific within the

2673
01:54:47,719 --> 01:54:51,079
city um I think is is really important

2674
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,800
and something that we want to make sure

2675
01:54:51,079 --> 01:54:54,760
that we move forward just one more

2676
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,560
really quick thing I just want to again

2677
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,800
just talk about the fact that you know

2678
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,560
we seem like we're we're in a really

2679
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:02,880
good place with this project and the and

2680
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:05,920
the the the developer you again

2681
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:08,480
obviously Us in the city everyone sees

2682
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:10,400
why a a community benefits package is an

2683
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:13,800
important thing and I think that you

2684
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:17,159
know we I anticipate

2685
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:19,040
uh a pretty smooth process um raising

2686
01:55:17,159 --> 01:55:20,320
more ways that this can benefit our

2687
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,719
community I think that's the whole

2688
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:25,079
that's been the spirit of this entire

2689
01:55:21,719 --> 01:55:28,119
project so I just want to highlight that

2690
01:55:25,079 --> 01:55:30,440
again Mr M yeah I just want to add to

2691
01:55:28,119 --> 01:55:32,520
that I mean um I what I would like to

2692
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,360
suggest is that um we should based on

2693
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:36,520
the discussion that we had the last

2694
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,760
meeting we should move forward with we

2695
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:40,280
um a draft of the community benefit

2696
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:43,239
agreement that we had discussed and

2697
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:45,079
pretty much lay on the table and to look

2698
01:55:43,239 --> 01:55:48,639
forward and see if we can able to amend

2699
01:55:45,079 --> 01:55:50,800
it and resubmit it into that package

2700
01:55:48,639 --> 01:55:52,960
that was already submitted so can I work

2701
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:55,119
on a draft get a draft on discuss it

2702
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:58,159
that was agreed on and let's see if we

2703
01:55:55,119 --> 01:55:59,800
can um amend that version it'll be good

2704
01:55:58,159 --> 01:56:02,520
I mean look all of us support this

2705
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:05,440
project and I think it's good that um we

2706
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:07,880
had a a good discussion in terms of

2707
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:11,079
community benefit agreement even the

2708
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:13,280
developer agreed with us to yes he is in

2709
01:56:11,079 --> 01:56:15,480
favor of that so it would part that we

2710
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,079
kind of like put that together I yes

2711
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,400
time of the Ence it may assign it and

2712
01:56:17,079 --> 01:56:20,840
submit it but then you know we can

2713
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:22,480
always revisit it and kind of submit

2714
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,880
something that is an agreement with us

2715
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:26,719
and also in agreement with the developer

2716
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,440
and I did mention that once we have the

2717
01:56:26,719 --> 01:56:30,000
draft we then send it to them give them

2718
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:32,040
an opportunity for them to review it

2719
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:34,679
come back with any changes and we move

2720
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:37,400
forward with the um discussion and

2721
01:56:34,679 --> 01:56:40,280
things like that with regards to the the

2722
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:43,159
sidewalk I mean that was another site it

2723
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:45,400
was done last year many of us don't

2724
01:56:43,159 --> 01:56:47,639
can't even recall that side what project

2725
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:50,079
was done so there was a council member

2726
01:56:47,639 --> 01:56:52,679
and me and his staff went ahead and did

2727
01:56:50,079 --> 01:56:54,760
the the Calk program some of us were not

2728
01:56:52,679 --> 01:56:56,320
even aware that it was ongoing yes I was

2729
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,599
initially involved in it at the

2730
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:00,360
beginning but I was totally sideline so

2731
01:56:58,599 --> 01:57:03,400
you know and that was the reason why for

2732
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:05,040
the Central Central Park Way sidewalk

2733
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,679
I'm working with the mayor and his staff

2734
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:08,520
to make sure that we put every steps in

2735
01:57:06,679 --> 01:57:10,079
place to make sure that we have the

2736
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:12,079
documentation the public hearing was

2737
01:57:10,079 --> 01:57:13,360
called we have the documentation The

2738
01:57:12,079 --> 01:57:15,480
Mailing and everything is going to be

2739
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,840
put in place to make sure that we do not

2740
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:20,159
go back what happened there should not

2741
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:21,520
have happened and but we as a council

2742
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:24,159
we're not we should not be taking blame

2743
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,159
for that

2744
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,800
right so um we're hearing what I'm

2745
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,000
hearing is that we'll get more

2746
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,520
information to the mayor and I would

2747
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,159
also suggest because um when Mr um

2748
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,440
Williams was talking he talking about

2749
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:35,159
different groups so maybe if we reach

2750
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,880
out to Sun because we need to expedite

2751
01:57:35,159 --> 01:57:38,599
the process so we reach out to Sun and

2752
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,119
say you know the and then Sun reaches

2753
01:57:38,599 --> 01:57:44,000
out to the neighborhoods so that we're

2754
01:57:40,119 --> 01:57:46,159
not trying to um do this on short you

2755
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:48,520
know like drag out the process this

2756
01:57:46,159 --> 01:57:52,920
Patrick well I hear what you all are

2757
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:55,440
saying um I think that I wish that

2758
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:58,079
I mean but this is now an executed an

2759
01:57:55,440 --> 01:58:01,000
executed agreement so the work is going

2760
01:57:58,079 --> 01:58:03,520
to start or has started I should say I

2761
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,440
think um I think that most of what we

2762
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,159
talked

2763
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,840
about when I did read the community

2764
01:58:07,159 --> 01:58:11,480
benefits agreement that we received from

2765
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:13,239
the mayor's office is included in that

2766
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:15,079
agreement there were a couple of things

2767
01:58:13,239 --> 01:58:18,880
that um I hear what you're saying about

2768
01:58:15,079 --> 01:58:21,280
mwbe I mean I'm not really sure to what

2769
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:22,520
extent that I mean isn't that already

2770
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:26,199
like something that's already on the

2771
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:28,119
books in terms of mwb but I mean one of

2772
01:58:26,199 --> 01:58:30,280
the things that um was mentioned was the

2773
01:58:28,119 --> 01:58:32,800
internships just as one example of

2774
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:35,040
something that isn't in the existing

2775
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:38,360
signed Community benefits agreement

2776
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:41,040
which is already out there um but I

2777
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:43,520
think that you

2778
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,280
know that would be a great suggestion I

2779
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,000
don't think that we need to redraft

2780
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,239
another Community benefits agreement I

2781
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,239
guess is what I'm saying I think that

2782
01:58:49,239 --> 01:58:53,560
having interns or you know some of these

2783
01:58:51,239 --> 01:58:55,800
other things that we talk about are just

2784
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:59,000
good suggestions and I think we'd have

2785
01:58:55,800 --> 01:59:00,679
to put some faith into the developer

2786
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:02,079
around around some of that we wouldn't

2787
01:59:00,679 --> 01:59:03,880
even know I mean if there was

2788
01:59:02,079 --> 01:59:05,480
internships for example we have to work

2789
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:08,320
with the school district to make sure

2790
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:09,440
that you know is it going to be students

2791
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,320
from the school district or is it going

2792
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,960
to be students from seccc I mean I don't

2793
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:16,239
those are kinds of things that I say we

2794
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:17,679
leave in the hands of the developer um

2795
01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:20,320
with just the understanding that those

2796
01:59:17,679 --> 01:59:22,800
are things that we hope will

2797
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:27,159
happen uh M fr

2798
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:28,920
May so I I think U again I think we um

2799
01:59:27,159 --> 01:59:31,320
gave the mayor permission to act and he

2800
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:33,639
acted and I and I and I can appreciate

2801
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:35,239
that and I think that um we all are

2802
01:59:33,639 --> 01:59:37,119
excited and anxious to get this project

2803
01:59:35,239 --> 01:59:38,199
under way I was just caution us like I

2804
01:59:37,119 --> 01:59:39,679
mean this isn't something where we want

2805
01:59:38,199 --> 01:59:42,679
to like fight for our limitations for I

2806
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:45,199
mean if we have a a a working and

2807
01:59:42,679 --> 01:59:47,920
willing partner who has expressed um

2808
01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:50,679
that that they um uh Community benefits

2809
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:53,440
PES something that they value um and if

2810
01:59:50,679 --> 01:59:56,520
they if they Mor it if the community can

2811
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:59,639
benefit more and we can make it official

2812
01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:01,800
I mean the the developers uh agrees and

2813
01:59:59,639 --> 02:00:04,520
I mean it's almost like you know why not

2814
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:07,679
do that you know what I mean if uh uh so

2815
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:09,800
I I I I do have faith um in the

2816
02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:11,440
intentions of the developer I mean deep

2817
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:13,079
I was pretty impressed with his you know

2818
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:15,560
saying like hey just come up with

2819
02:00:13,079 --> 02:00:17,159
something if it doesn't work you know I

2820
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,880
I would say that he might even kind of

2821
02:00:17,159 --> 02:00:21,239
raise the threshold accountability to a

2822
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:23,719
level that we weren't so I I am pretty

2823
02:00:21,239 --> 02:00:27,199
um uh I have a lot of faith there but I

2824
02:00:23,719 --> 02:00:29,960
think that as a how we operate here is

2825
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:31,760
if we have a ready and willing partner

2826
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:33,239
to say you know what I can do that and

2827
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,520
that makes sense why not at it you know

2828
02:00:33,239 --> 02:00:37,599
what I mean I don't think that holds up

2829
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:40,280
the pro the progress of the project any

2830
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:44,000
um so I think that

2831
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:46,239
that Mr M no I was going to Echo some

2832
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:48,360
something similar to Mr Farley is that

2833
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:51,480
um the developers we I mean some of the

2834
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:53,760
things he did mention and give us ideas

2835
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:55,639
to put in so the benefit agreement which

2836
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,760
you know came words that came from

2837
02:00:55,639 --> 02:00:59,880
suggestion that came from him so I I

2838
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:02,840
think it would it would hurt it will go

2839
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:05,320
along way it will build more trust that

2840
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:08,679
U we discussed it we were told by the

2841
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:11,440
developer XYZ we should enact it and uh

2842
02:01:08,679 --> 02:01:14,520
you know put it into the agreement and

2843
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:17,040
you know work along that line we can't

2844
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:20,440
just uh you know just say we have it for

2845
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:23,079
discussion we are back against um the

2846
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:25,639
timing of it yes if the timing is of the

2847
02:01:23,079 --> 02:01:29,560
essence and the contract um needs to get

2848
02:01:25,639 --> 02:01:32,119
signed and and deliver to move on it

2849
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:33,880
doesn't stop us from revisit um the

2850
02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:36,520
benefit agreement and put these things

2851
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:37,920
in place it will go a long way it will

2852
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:39,320
go a long way in terms of building trust

2853
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:43,159
for the community and building trust for

2854
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:46,400
this developer going forward and all

2855
02:01:43,159 --> 02:01:48,360
developers Mr Toro um I I thought that

2856
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:51,920
we were going to have uh some type of

2857
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:53,800
draft this evening um from the last uh

2858
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:56,880
someone was going to put things together

2859
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:59,520
what was set around the table so um I

2860
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:02,679
don't see anything presented but um I do

2861
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:04,040
know with the I I don't have the uh

2862
02:02:02,679 --> 02:02:06,960
agreement here in front of me that the

2863
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:09,440
mayor put out there was some I think it

2864
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:12,480
it it emulated a lot of of what you put

2865
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:13,920
forward of what the community wanted um

2866
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,560
unfortunately you know there wasn't

2867
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:19,639
anything there about you know seats at

2868
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:22,000
the table um which I'm personally am not

2869
02:02:19,639 --> 02:02:24,599
in agreement of but um since it's a

2870
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:26,199
going to be a privately run company but

2871
02:02:24,599 --> 02:02:27,760
again I don't think whatever we bring

2872
02:02:26,199 --> 02:02:29,599
forward I don't know if that all of us

2873
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:33,760
will agree on it anyway and we're just

2874
02:02:29,599 --> 02:02:35,639
going to take time uh and the the the uh

2875
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:38,079
the agreements out there and and

2876
02:02:35,639 --> 02:02:39,840
honestly I was pleased with with How It

2877
02:02:38,079 --> 02:02:42,719
Was Written and and what it did for our

2878
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:44,280
community so so let me address something

2879
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:46,280
that you stated about there not being

2880
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:48,079
anything here well we had a meeting on

2881
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:50,239
Thursday and then in our Friday email we

2882
02:02:48,079 --> 02:02:51,520
got it so to me there was no purpose of

2883
02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:53,520
bringing here we need to have this

2884
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:55,320
discussion disc is is in terms of

2885
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:57,159
whether we going to move forward there

2886
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,719
was already an agreement I didn't know

2887
02:02:57,159 --> 02:03:00,920
prior to this discussion that the mayor

2888
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:02,960
would still be open to doing that so

2889
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:04,719
that's why there's no draft here because

2890
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:07,320
we already got it in our email so I just

2891
02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:08,599
want to make that 100% clear that it's

2892
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,880
not that we're dragging our feet we

2893
02:03:08,599 --> 02:03:15,119
already got something that was we didn't

2894
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:17,280
want even aware that that existed so um

2895
02:03:15,119 --> 02:03:18,639
that's why there there is no draft and

2896
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:20,159
now that we are clear that the mayor

2897
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:22,840
said it's a dynamic process and he's

2898
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:24,560
willing it open to that and developers

2899
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,480
as well then we can move forward with

2900
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,520
that but I didn't want to bring

2901
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:29,560
something just for us to when there was

2902
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,119
let didn't know there was a window of

2903
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:32,599
opportunity so now we know there's a

2904
02:03:31,119 --> 02:03:35,239
window of

2905
02:03:32,599 --> 02:03:36,639
opportunity Mr M if I may suggest that

2906
02:03:35,239 --> 02:03:38,560
we should go back to the notes from the

2907
02:03:36,639 --> 02:03:40,520
last meeting and absolutely create a

2908
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:42,639
draft we can do that and we can email it

2909
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:44,880
to the counil then give the opportunity

2910
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:46,679
to the developer and the mayor to view

2911
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,639
it and then we can bring it to the

2912
02:03:46,679 --> 02:03:49,800
council say some the feedback we reive

2913
02:03:48,639 --> 02:03:52,599
from the

2914
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:54,119
developer that and I and I short u

2915
02:03:52,599 --> 02:03:55,360
information purposes there is another

2916
02:03:54,119 --> 02:03:57,920
community meeting that's going on

2917
02:03:55,360 --> 02:04:00,159
Thursday and um you know I'll just kind

2918
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:01,880
of discuss it if people have ideas you

2919
02:04:00,159 --> 02:04:03,040
know I'll I'll throw them in there and

2920
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:03,800
they don't have to be good I mean they

2921
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,639
don't have to be good they don't

2922
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:07,559
necessarily have to be approved but we

2923
02:04:05,639 --> 02:04:09,119
will have at least heard some level of

2924
02:04:07,559 --> 02:04:11,199
community voice because I think

2925
02:04:09,119 --> 02:04:14,480
Community benefits agreement deserves to

2926
02:04:11,199 --> 02:04:16,679
have voices from the community so mayor

2927
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:18,639
you said so you're open to us putting

2928
02:04:16,679 --> 02:04:22,679
something forward that we can have

2929
02:04:18,639 --> 02:04:24,320
consideration okay perfect so can can we

2930
02:04:22,679 --> 02:04:26,639
attach a timeline to that can we get

2931
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:28,440
this Draft before the week is out yes we

2932
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:31,000
can have the draft by I'll say Friday

2933
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:35,400
how's that today Tuesday yeah yes oh

2934
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:38,040
that's right holiday not a Monday so so

2935
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:39,639
um any if anyone there is anything that

2936
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:43,199
you mention at the meeting that you want

2937
02:04:39,639 --> 02:04:44,760
include it please just um email it um I

2938
02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:46,679
think everything's if you don't we'll

2939
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:49,199
email it to miss m and that way she has

2940
02:04:46,679 --> 02:04:50,920
it in one it'll be in one place so that

2941
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:52,880
we're not emailing all around to each

2942
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:54,639
other and then Miku can then follow

2943
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:57,360
everything to all members of the

2944
02:04:54,639 --> 02:04:58,800
council I know that we put a lot for all

2945
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:00,239
our things so thank you for the work

2946
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:03,960
that you do Mr

2947
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:07,440
Miku is there any further discussion on

2948
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:08,719
that okay once again I would to I I need

2949
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:12,239
to

2950
02:05:08,719 --> 02:05:14,159
um recess City development plan and

2951
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:16,159
claims so that uh City development

2952
02:05:14,159 --> 02:05:19,679
planning so that Claims can be

2953
02:05:16,159 --> 02:05:22,880
called motion to recess second all those

2954
02:05:19,679 --> 02:05:22,880
in favor

2955
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:28,800
okay so I'd like to open up claims go

2956
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:32,880
into executive section because

2957
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:37,079
it's she'll open then she'll vot exec

2958
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:37,079
session oh sorry oh

2959
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:43,639
good it's not me Carl I'm sorry it's

2960
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:45,360
Carl sorry about that Carl so I'd like

2961
02:05:43,639 --> 02:05:46,719
to call to the claims committee we have

2962
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:48,719
one item on the agenda which we be

2963
02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:52,679
taking executive session may have a

2964
02:05:48,719 --> 02:05:52,679
motion to any executive session

2965
02:05:52,719 --> 02:05:55,119
all in

2966
02:05:56,159 --> 02:06:02,320
favor we're exec session and so the

2967
02:05:58,679 --> 02:06:02,320
public will have to leave

2968
02:06:02,710 --> 02:06:05,810
[Applause]