1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:28,960 [Music] 2 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,490 yeah 3 00:00:30,490 --> 00:00:53,440 [Music] 4 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,550 [Applause] 5 00:00:53,550 --> 00:00:58,920 [Music] 6 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,320 yeah 7 00:01:00,320 --> 00:02:28,840 [Music] 8 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,480 yeah 9 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:58,840 [Music] 10 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,070 yeah 11 00:03:00,070 --> 00:03:25,360 [Music] 12 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,920 call the order connected city council 13 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:28,879 committee meeting for Monday March 18th 14 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,560 2024 15 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,840 uh we have three presentations this 16 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,319 evening and so I would like to start 17 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,840 with the electric city colop and whoever 18 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,599 is presenting please come here we have a 19 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:43,120 microphone for you all 20 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,799 right and you have handouts for us I do 21 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:51,959 okay you can just give me look okay um 22 00:03:51,959 --> 00:03:54,200 Alexander Carver said there might I 23 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,959 emailed her a presentation is it 24 00:03:55,959 --> 00:03:58,720 possible that we can get 25 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 that 26 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,159 if not that is okay because I got it 27 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:04,560 printed out in front of 28 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 me you 29 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:14,670 can but I will one 30 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,710 sure can you put 31 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,840 this is this 32 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,600 hot people at home for 33 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,440 television all right uh honorable mayor 34 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,759 m MERS of the city council um 35 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:34,600 distinguished staff I just want to 36 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,600 introduce myself my name is Eric Johnson 37 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,199 I'm the president of the Electric City 38 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:42,520 Food Co-op uh we're doing business as uh 39 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,360 the Electric City Community grocery uh 40 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,199 we were awarded a grant from arpa for a 41 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:52,880 million dollar in in support of our 42 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Cooperative grocery startup in downtown 43 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,840 is 44 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,560 connected first I just want to say uh 45 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,639 how much gratitude our group group 46 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:03,639 brings to this uh governing body and how 47 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,160 thankful we are for your support it's 48 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,360 meant a lot to have your support and 49 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,160 it's really lifted our 50 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,120 sales uh I'd also just like to say that 51 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,639 we've made uh a great deal of progress 52 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:19,280 since being awarded this 53 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:24,360 proposal um and would just like to uh 54 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,479 you know just begin with the Positive 55 00:05:27,479 --> 00:05:30,160 gratitude that we have for this group 56 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,280 and uh we'll get right into it I do also 57 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:33,759 just want to say I recently had eye 58 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:35,639 surgery so I was sort of counting on 59 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:38,280 this presentation to be um online but 60 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:44,390 I'll um work through this um and 61 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,319 uh so um what what we've done is we've 62 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:52,039 sent a letter requesting an extension 63 00:05:52,039 --> 00:05:56,120 for our arpa um Award with the city our 64 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,440 award expired on March uh 12th this year 65 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,039 and what we're requesting is a r uh 66 00:06:04,039 --> 00:06:07,000 extension for six months to that time uh 67 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,639 so that we can work with our partners to 68 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:10,720 secure our 69 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,199 location and uh deliver a downtown uh 70 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,319 grocery to the city of SKC uh our 71 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:19,160 mission from the very beginning has been 72 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 to deliver a grocery store to downtown 73 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,280 SKC uh that is our Focus um so that so 74 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,400 when it comes to um you know 75 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,120 conversations about other places our 76 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,560 primary focus is delivering that grocery 77 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,599 to downtown skty um and then once we're 78 00:06:35,599 --> 00:06:37,319 through with that we can obviously look 79 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:39,440 at other 80 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,520 opportunities uh I just want to draw 81 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,800 your attention to the third slide it's 82 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,080 got uh these logos right here so what we 83 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,240 have um in this third slide is a 84 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,599 three um three Federal a federal state 85 00:06:55,599 --> 00:06:56,919 and a 86 00:06:56,919 --> 00:07:00,879 local uh solution or plans that were 87 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:03,400 developed uh on the left you have the 88 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,919 arpa 89 00:07:04,919 --> 00:07:09,840 um the arpa um federal law which was 90 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,879 passed right and pumped a ton of money 91 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:15,759 into the economy during co uh we've got 92 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:19,000 the downtown re re development re uh 93 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,919 initiative or drri which identified uh a 94 00:07:22,919 --> 00:07:26,680 need for a grosser in downtown skincity 95 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 to complement the current blend of 96 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,039 economic 97 00:07:30,039 --> 00:07:34,800 um economic um balance and then the city 98 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,000 uh of Sky 2020 plan that was approved in 99 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,160 2008 which set a planning initiative to 100 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,319 do a perform analysis for a grocery 101 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:53,430 store and to move that 102 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,240 forward uh the next slide covers um that 103 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,720 we just are identified as a as a food 104 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,520 desert in skty uh food desert is an 105 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,599 interesting term defined by the federal 106 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:09,000 government but in fact it's a really uh 107 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,360 what I Define as food apartheid because 108 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,360 it is a um structural implemented way in 109 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,199 which there is a scarcity of 110 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:20,400 availability of healthy foods for 111 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,639 certain zip codes based on decisions of 112 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:25,240 planners of the 113 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,800 past and uh you know the way that we can 114 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,840 solve that is through food sovereignty 115 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,599 so the electric city food cop is not 116 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:35,919 going to solve the problem uh the 117 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,560 electric city food Pro um alone the 118 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:40,479 Electric City Food Co-op is part of the 119 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:43,120 mix on the right side of this slide 120 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,880 which is slide 121 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,560 four uh is uh it represents the Sky City 122 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:52,200 Food Council which includes sium the 123 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Green Market SK School District farm farm School Tech Valley shuttles 124 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,200 the City Mission 125 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,079 uh the Cornell extension us and a total 126 00:09:03,079 --> 00:09:05,040 of 30 plus organizations that are 127 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,200 working together with the concy 128 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 foundation to further food policy and 129 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,630 the challenges within the food 130 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,440 space okay great great I'll put this 131 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,200 down um if you can go to the next slide 132 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,519 please so um it's quite easy to think 133 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:28,720 like our organization's been around for 134 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,200 10 years now we incorporated in 135 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,880 2013 and it would be easy to conclude 136 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,680 that we're not making progress I want to 137 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,360 just point out this graph uh you see 138 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,800 that we made steady progress up until 139 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 the pandemic and then we Flatline the 140 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,600 pandemic is represented on the red 141 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,640 rectangle and you'll see as we the 142 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,600 official end of the pandemic by that 143 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,600 time obviously people were moving around 144 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,839 but we were having explosive growth uh 145 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:01,000 at that point we went from 4 65 members 146 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,720 through 1,000 at the end of this year 147 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,640 we're up to 1,035 right now and part of 148 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,600 the way that we were able to invigorate 149 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,079 the community was through the Public 150 00:10:12,079 --> 00:10:15,120 Funding that we had we were able to re 151 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,560 uh price our membership from $200 to $25 152 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,000 what this did was it made it more 153 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 accessible to our community we had a 154 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,279 more diverse population that was able to 155 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,519 join in fact uh we we were able to 156 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:32,440 gather and raise funds to provide 157 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 solidary memberships for those that are 158 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,519 unable to provide the $25 we were able 159 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:40,040 to supplement their 160 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 membership um so we continue to grow a 161 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,959 lot of enthusiasm within the community 162 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:47,440 and we're at the point now if you notice 163 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,000 the diagram on your right hand side uh 164 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,120 we've gone we have paid for uh Market 165 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,760 studies we've done uh our proforma our 166 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,240 business plan uh We've exceeded our me 167 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,160 our membership goals to where we can 168 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,760 kind of move out of our planning stage 169 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,160 and we've been engaged with Metroplex 170 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,959 and we have um are getting ready to sign 171 00:11:09,959 --> 00:11:14,160 a site uh contract with NCG who is our 172 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,519 uh our implementation partner which I'll 173 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:18,560 go to in in a few more 174 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,320 slides so if we can go to the next slide 175 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,480 please I just want to just reflect on 176 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,360 some of our board members 177 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,279 um pretty great group of people 178 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,480 we meet every week uh to further it we 179 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,560 have four active subcommittees within 180 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:39,680 this board the people that are circled 181 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,279 with a light green color are all new 182 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:44,959 within the last year and I just want to 183 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:46,920 highlight that within this group of 184 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,000 board members we have people that have 185 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,839 deep experience within the grocery 186 00:11:52,839 --> 00:11:55,519 business both Price Chopper and 187 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,399 Cooperative groceries uh people who have 188 00:11:58,399 --> 00:11:59,959 experience on board Boards of directors 189 00:11:59,959 --> 00:12:03,120 of co-ops we've got Finance people we've 190 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,639 got accountants we've got food 191 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:08,519 manufacturers uh we've got Bakers and 192 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:10,839 just general downtown boosters so these 193 00:12:10,839 --> 00:12:12,760 are the people from your community our 194 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,199 community that are invigorated and 195 00:12:15,199 --> 00:12:17,440 involved and are looking to get this 196 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,680 project 197 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,920 done uh building back to better together 198 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,920 and so the on the next slide just want 199 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,440 to cover uh National Cooperative Grocers 200 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800 so you can kind of think of this as like 201 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,120 a um it's a chain for independent 202 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,279 groceries they have a Professional 203 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:39,399 Services line that is in the business of 204 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:42,040 starting up GR uh Cooperative grocery 205 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,639 stores around the country in fact 206 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:45,680 they're starting up six in the first 207 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,160 half of this year so they're on on Pace 208 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,959 of doing about one per month just right 209 00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:55,440 now they've got 230 stores in 39 states 210 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,760 and their total spend is $2.5 billion 211 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 annually so we get a lot of buying uh 212 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 advantages by working with the national 213 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Cooperative Grocers they've got a 214 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,320 product line which is uh an affordable 215 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,680 product line uh there's often um an 216 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:15,760 association with cooperatives that 217 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,720 cooperatives are expensive I'm never 218 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,199 going to be able to afford it oh thank 219 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:22,480 you so much um and cooperatives can be 220 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,160 expensive but it's our goal to provide 221 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Staples that are affordable to our 222 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,680 community uh that's imper for our 223 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,600 business model and also provide options 224 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,839 for you know with local farmers which 225 00:13:34,839 --> 00:13:36,880 might be at a higher price 226 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 point so um you know we've got lots of 227 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,720 examples and and like I said the um 1.3 228 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,800 million customer owners uh are reflected 229 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 there they've got contracts with semi 230 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,959 trucks to move move food in so we be 231 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:54,759 using them for food supply they'll help 232 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:59,120 us with the Final store design um HR 233 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 payroll Finance point of sale uh through 234 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,430 store opening through um 235 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,000 stabilization uh so the dream te team 236 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,480 can't be beat so it's kind of a funny 237 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,079 play there but we've got uh the Electric 238 00:14:15,079 --> 00:14:18,560 City Food Co-op the national uh Co-op 239 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Grocers and uh obviously you all who 240 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,959 were so thankful for and SK County and 241 00:14:25,959 --> 00:14:30,720 of course Metroplex and uh Dave or Scott 242 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,920 I don't know if there's anything that 243 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:37,470 you wanted to add or wait for 244 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,199 questions Scott C Tech Metro PL um it be 245 00:14:42,199 --> 00:14:43,720 on 246 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,839 camera okay Scott C Tech Metroplex uh 247 00:14:46,839 --> 00:14:48,920 thank you for letting us be here today 248 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,600 uh you know Eric and his team have been 249 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,839 really working extremely hard and trying 250 00:14:52,839 --> 00:14:55,000 to make this a reality I can remember 251 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,360 back to the late 90s you know not having 252 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,199 anything supp to have a grer downtown 253 00:15:01,199 --> 00:15:03,920 you know outside of Eastern Avan Price 254 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Chopper and so this has been a long time 255 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,680 coming there's a lot of momentum being 256 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 had right now we're at almost at the 257 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,920 finish line there's a couple locations 258 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,399 and a couple developers they're working 259 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:16,839 with I can't disclose either location 260 00:15:16,839 --> 00:15:19,480 and or developers because we signed n 261 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,680 NDA non disclosure agreements um but I 262 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,199 will say that with a little more time I 263 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:27,759 think we can uh pull this off um you 264 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:29,800 know with the bank Environ right now 265 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Insurance a little bit higher we all 266 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,720 thought the rates start coming down a 267 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,199 little bit I think that they will as we 268 00:15:34,199 --> 00:15:36,240 get toward summertime that's kind of 269 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,079 affecting some of the pricing strategies 270 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:40,040 but I do think that given a little bit 271 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160 more time here I think they they can uh 272 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,199 execute this plan U they're doing all 273 00:15:44,199 --> 00:15:46,839 the right things and U anything that you 274 00:15:46,839 --> 00:15:48,600 can do to extend this little bit we be 275 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 much appreciate it um and uh we do 276 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,910 appreciate it thank 277 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,839 you 278 00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:03,480 okay this next slide is uh a screenshot 279 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,399 from our new website which was just 280 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,519 released over the weekend which we're 281 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,000 excited about but that's not the main 282 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,360 points the main point is what's in it 283 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,079 for the community as you I'm sorry it's 284 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,079 the slide with the yeah that one right 285 00:16:18,079 --> 00:16:18,839 there 286 00:16:18,839 --> 00:16:21,560 so yeah so what what what are we 287 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,000 bringing to the community um you see 288 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,959 expanded uh access to Local Foods uh and 289 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:31,040 local you know supporting local grossers 290 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,560 producers and artisians keep your 291 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,680 dollars local uh create local jobs uh 292 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,590 our estimate is um 293 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,759 $154,000 monthly 294 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:46,519 payroll um cultivate thriving 295 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:50,240 communities rooted root systems uh give 296 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,560 classes you culinary classes how to 297 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 sharpen knives how to do the things that 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,240 some of our Traditions have forgotten as 299 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,199 far as cooking together and eating 300 00:17:00,199 --> 00:17:02,440 together uh participate in the 301 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,160 governance of a Cooperative organization 302 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,959 and connect with communities so it's 303 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,640 just important to uh think that this is 304 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,919 a really great way for us to develop our 305 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:14,240 community and expand the Civic 306 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,909 engagement here in SK 307 00:17:17,919 --> 00:17:20,600 activity um like Scott said and thanks 308 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,520 for that Scott uh we're working with 309 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,199 Metro Metroflex to sign an agreement to 310 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:28,280 occupy a space and a lease agreement uh 311 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,880 as you said we can't um disclose the 312 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,440 location or the developer and as of you 313 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,000 know Tuesday last week when our deadline 314 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,240 came through we did not have that deal 315 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,280 done and that as we all know 316 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,200 negotiations sometimes take a little bit 317 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,320 of time right they're not always easy 318 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,320 and so this negotiation is taking a 319 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,840 little bit of 320 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,360 time uh just as to close if you know a 321 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,919 vote a vote of no an extension for us 322 00:18:00,919 --> 00:18:03,000 makes gives you plenty of time to 323 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,600 reallocate the funds for other 324 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,360 priorities that you 325 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,320 have um the risk is as our team sees it 326 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,480 is that you're missing a really a once 327 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,159 in a-lifetime opportunity to bring a 328 00:18:15,159 --> 00:18:17,880 grocery store to downtown the private 329 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,120 sector alone isn't going to do this it 330 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:26,799 doesn't work work for them and so if if we miss this opportunity we're going 331 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,720 to be waiting a long time time to get a 332 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Downtown 333 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Grocery and um you know we've got a good 334 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,400 leadership team we've got robust 335 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 participation uh people are lit up about 336 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,159 participating in this and just excited 337 00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:45,919 to support one another and that's 338 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:48,280 something that we all like to see in our 339 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 community so I think from that 340 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,240 perspective it would be um a challenge 341 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,720 for us to not see this 342 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 extension voting yes on a six-month 343 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,039 extension uh would align with arpa dri 344 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:06,280 and vision 345 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,640 2020 it would improve food access and uh 346 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Equity it would catalyze local and 347 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:14,240 Regional food opportunities and 348 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,679 encourage citizens to participate in the 349 00:19:16,679 --> 00:19:19,120 Democratic process within the food 350 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,559 system itself the downside or risk you 351 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,280 might say is that 6 month extension 352 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,559 would allow you only 14 weeks to 353 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:30,760 reallocate those funds funds by the time 354 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,559 that you must have those committed which 355 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:37,200 I believe is December 31st of this year 356 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 and the other downside is other grantees 357 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 would have to essentially wait in the 358 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,320 winds while they're um while while we're 359 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,240 fing out on things it's not our 360 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,159 intention to use the full six months uh 361 00:19:51,159 --> 00:19:55,760 these negotiations do take time uh and 362 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,960 unfortunately Eric and the co-op team 363 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,720 don't always get a seat right at the 364 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,080 front of the table because a lot of 365 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760 these negotiations are between 366 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Metroplex the the county and the 367 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 developers so we've been I think Scott 368 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,360 and know's very encouraging of this 369 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:14,360 project moving process moving along 370 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:16,760 faster but these negotiations do just 371 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,270 take some 372 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,120 time um just a few supplemental slides 373 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:27,640 so from the drri uh I just want to note 374 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,200 that the dri report of 2020 noted that 375 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 there was a lack or void of neighborhood 376 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,400 goods and services in the downtown area 377 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,159 so that is um one of the three important 378 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:42,799 ingredients to a healthy economy and 379 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:47,280 without um a healthy uh Tri Brit of 380 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,039 those three areas you won't have people 381 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:51,799 coming down and staying downtown to 382 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:53,320 spend their dollars and that's been 383 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,799 identified and 384 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:57,480 reinforced as a problem a systematic 385 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,000 problem with downtown sign Cony and it's 386 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,760 why we have a hard time keeping and 387 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,440 attracting Shoppers in the downtown area 388 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,600 um and I think this next slide shows 389 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,679 that if we're able to SOL at least 390 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:13,559 partially solve that problem by bringing 391 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:15,919 goods and services downtown neighborhood 392 00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:18,679 goods and services then we get just more 393 00:21:18,679 --> 00:21:20,720 walkability more people spending more 394 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,200 money downtown um more action downtown 395 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,919 the the restaurants will benefit uh 396 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:30,880 other stores will benefit so um I think 397 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,799 that that's just an important thing and 398 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,400 then lastly I just want to say that um 399 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,440 I'm not sure that co-ops are familiar to 400 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,279 everybody 401 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:44,159 but we're a Cooperative uh other one of 402 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:45,840 the other organizations here is is a 403 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Cooperative 404 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,440 organization and what we know about 405 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,960 cooperatives is that it's a way to lift 406 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,200 one another up in Economic Development 407 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,200 by supporting one another and teaming 408 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,840 together to make uh Solutions where 409 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,400 otherwise Solutions won't be available 410 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,360 so that's really all I have to present 411 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:06,279 to the council I'm the mayor and I'd 412 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,279 like to thank you if there's any 413 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:10,080 questions be more than happy to answer 414 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,200 those right so I'm going to start but so 415 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,679 the site control the only thing that 416 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,840 you're really waiting for in terms of 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,799 being able to move forward with this 418 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:20,520 project site control is where what is 419 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320 the one leling factor yes all right and 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,520 um you said you wanted 6 months yes so 421 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,200 um but you pointed out yourself then we 422 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,200 only have 14 weeks to reallocate funds 423 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,919 although I think we I think the city 424 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:34,840 could figure that out Anthony 425 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,799 right um so let's say we just can't get 426 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,279 to 6 months what could what could we 427 00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:45,400 reasonably sure um great question so a 428 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,480 reasonable uh compromise would be 429 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,159 splitting the difference but 3 months 430 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:54,080 really won't get us what we need uh so 431 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159 you know you say like Eric's asking for 432 00:22:56,159 --> 00:22:58,159 6 months let's get him 3 months the 433 00:22:58,159 --> 00:22:59,919 clock already ticking we're one week 434 00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:04,840 into it um and so from my perspective 3 435 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,600 months is a very risky proposition to to 436 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,679 me and I thought a lot about this 5 437 00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:13,640 months is about where we could land and 438 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,120 still either know this deal is going to 439 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,880 happen and we're going to get it done or 440 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840 no this isn't and we've given it a vant 441 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000 effort and you know we'll either 442 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,440 continue without the funds or we'll go on our Mar 443 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,039 lights 444 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:31,240 right so I do you know just I I think I 445 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840 already said this to you but if we 446 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,760 whatever time limit we give and you know 447 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,919 we're not going to be unreasonable um 448 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:39,679 once we get there and if you're not able 449 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,960 to do that then we would have no choice 450 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,679 but to to resend the funds because we 451 00:23:44,679 --> 00:23:46,039 are facing that deadline it's not 452 00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:48,039 because we want to but we are facing a 453 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:49,240 deadline with the federal government and 454 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,840 we have to meet that deadline or we 455 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,679 could then ConEd to lose funds and we 456 00:23:52,679 --> 00:23:55,120 certainly don't want to do that so um 457 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,559 like I started off we're very grateful 458 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,120 and full of gratitud ude for this Grant 459 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:04,440 and totally understand where you are so 460 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,039 yeah we're meeting where where you are 461 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,400 other questions for Council Members Mr 462 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,200 Williams just as a point of clarity and 463 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,000 thank you for this presentation I think 464 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,919 it was very apparent that you built it 465 00:24:14,919 --> 00:24:16,080 with an understanding of working 466 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,840 collaboratively and together and I think 467 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,279 that was one of the common themes that 468 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,080 just very much stood out to me um just 469 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,440 wanting to get a clarification from um 470 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,159 Council porterfield's Point uh it's 471 00:24:27,159 --> 00:24:29,279 apparent that the biggest obstacle is 472 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,200 the getting sight control however you 473 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,520 alluded that there were other elements 474 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,080 also that 5 months does that fully 475 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,039 address the site control issue or is 476 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,640 that to fully address all outstanding 477 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,440 issues so yeah so where we're at right 478 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480 now is we've submitted our affid 479 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,039 affidavits our policies our uh orc 480 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:49,760 structure like we've submitted 481 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,120 everything to you guys all uh we have 482 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,480 one Gap with insurance which is you 483 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720 can't have insurance without a site and 484 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,159 we just have a box right now so we 485 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:02,559 talked with Miss Carver about that uh 486 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,279 there is a question of a $5.7 million 487 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,600 match and we do not currently have that 488 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,840 so we've got a commitment from the 489 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,360 county for 3 million the situation is a 490 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,240 little bit different right now because 491 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 uh previously when we applied for the uh 492 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Grant the idea was to buy a building so 493 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,600 that with with some of these projects 494 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,039 they're much bigger projects and so we 495 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,399 will be a tenant with that and paying 496 00:25:27,399 --> 00:25:30,080 for a portion of to build out through 497 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,039 our grant funds so to specifically 498 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:34,720 answer your question I think we look for 499 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,389 some accommodations with the matching of 500 00:25:40,399 --> 00:25:44,520 5.7 anybody else thank you Mr yes follow 501 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,880 up on that you're matching a 5.7 is that 502 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,000 secure or in the process of being secure 503 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,799 so it's not secured it's our our request 504 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:54,600 was to have contributions from our 505 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240 developer right so that would be for a 506 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720 few million uh we got the county for 3 507 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,640 million and I think actually what we'd 508 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640 like to request is a reduction in that 509 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,159 5.7 for to something lower than that the 510 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,720 matching amount from the county and the 511 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,919 city uh I think we could do a little bit 512 00:26:12,919 --> 00:26:14,399 more than that but that would be ideal 513 00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:17,000 44 million yeah so $3 million matching 514 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,760 to the 1 515 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,360 million so overall what is an estimated 516 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,679 cost of this 517 00:26:22,679 --> 00:26:26,799 project so again that depends on the 518 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:28,760 particulars of the development 519 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240 um but right now we're looking 520 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,760 at I mean one developer 521 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,480 is is it possible that I could just give 522 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,320 you some numbers afterwards I mean I or 523 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,320 I mean I can give you estimates yeah I'm just looking for 524 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,720 estimates so so right now it's um like 525 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,600 4.5 526 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,480 to I'd say 5.8 would be the total 527 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240 project alling cost 528 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,909 mhm 529 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:05,240 Mr F yeah I just wanted to oh I'm 530 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,520 sorry no sorry yeah so I'm looking at 531 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,360 the numbers here so you let going high 532 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,279 in 5.8 this is estimated numers so 533 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:14,360 you're looking at um that secure money 534 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,960 already from the city and county $4 535 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 million so you're looking at $1.8 536 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,760 million out yeah small funding yeah so 537 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,399 that's that's right so we'll need to 538 00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:27,000 make that up through commitments from 539 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,679 the developer 540 00:27:28,679 --> 00:27:31,440 that's one and then 541 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,919 loans it's yeah uh the loans will be a 542 00:27:34,919 --> 00:27:37,159 combination of member loans like 543 00:27:37,159 --> 00:27:40,519 Community loans and then uh development 544 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:44,399 like uh there's Cooperative uh 545 00:27:44,399 --> 00:27:47,679 startup Capital funds that give out 546 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:50,640 loans and it is also hard to get a loan 547 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,440 and you don't have a lot any collateral 548 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,120 right you you mentioned um in your 549 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,080 presentation that your point where to 550 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840 secure this lease agreement so you think 551 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,360 that at that point where you're right 552 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,159 now to secure the lease agreement is 553 00:28:05,159 --> 00:28:08,360 going to take you 5 mons to get that 554 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,200 done I hope so I mean if we don't have 555 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:24,310 that I maybe I'd ask Scott to ask answer 556 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880 that um typically you know when you get 557 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,880 to this part of the game game you 558 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,960 typically will sign up what they call an 559 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Loi which is Le than 10 that just basic 560 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,120 business tenants you know rate term some 561 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,360 other major things then into the lease a 562 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,039 document itself from timing perspective 563 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,200 again this is if we agree today we have 564 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,640 a deal you're probably looking at you 565 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,840 know anywhere from 30 to 60 days just to 566 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,840 complete that task if we had the site 567 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,960 already identified work the math out 568 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,640 since we kind of two sites that were 569 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760 working true we don't have the final 570 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,919 numbers yet so it's probably going to be 571 00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:05,080 more three 3 to four months and you know 572 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,039 once you kind of get to that point so 573 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:09,720 asking for five is you know is great um 574 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,440 but I do think we're very somewhat close 575 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,559 to pulling this together and we do need 576 00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,640 some time so it's not like you just 577 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,360 we're going to do this you legal 578 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240 documents you have to you know uh 579 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,480 finalize and make sure that everyone's 580 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,760 comfortable with the terms of conditions 581 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,120 of the lease and that does take a little 582 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640 bit of time back and forth so hopefully 583 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,070 that answers the question so 584 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,279 Mr Bry has a question so well more of a 585 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,120 statement too so number one I want to 586 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,559 kind of just highlight some of the 587 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,559 things that you talked about as far as 588 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:39,519 growing 589 00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,200 membership um you know so this is 590 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,559 clearly a project that's really about 591 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,080 it's not lost on us that it's about 592 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120 accessibility and once you were able to 593 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880 secure funds where you didn't have to 594 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,919 charge people such a high amount more 595 00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:56,840 people had uh that created an open up 596 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840 access for people to join and I think 597 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,640 that that is really what we're talking 598 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,360 about this project you know overall is 599 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,360 that with access to um quality food 600 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,880 people care about what they eat but but 601 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,039 right now The Limited options that are 602 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,159 presented kind of don't um you decrease 603 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:17,559 the likelihood of them having a healthy 604 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,880 food option so I I think that it's 605 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,880 really um important that we we just kind 606 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,600 of recognize the fact that as soon as we 607 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,200 increase access to people to be a part 608 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,000 of this they were a part of this and I 609 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,279 would just um safely assume that that 610 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,480 would be the response from the larger 611 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,279 community that if we presented for 612 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,120 people that they were supported I also 613 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,519 like the fact that you have some um 614 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,799 board members with some pretty extensive 615 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,880 uh experience um with grocery stores and 616 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,039 could you talk a little bit about that 617 00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:48,399 and what their are sure yeah uh and I 618 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,080 would say just to respond to your first 619 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000 point we fully expect our membership to 620 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880 really Skyrocket once we uh continue to 621 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,639 Skyrocket once we announce and I just 622 00:30:58,639 --> 00:31:00,320 want to say that there's no requirement 623 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,080 to be a member to shop at this fishy 624 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,559 store so I just want to be very clear 625 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,240 there so Rick mosart who's right over 626 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,679 there this uh handsome looking gentleman 627 00:31:08,679 --> 00:31:11,760 he he has 30 years experience uh fitting 628 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120 up Price Choppers for go go up 629 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Corporation so he's the guy that would 630 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,919 go in and optimize Price Choppers uh set 631 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,039 them up make sure that the insides the 632 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,159 guts the operations were just as they 633 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:27,600 should be so he was uh one of Mr gb's 634 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,039 Right and 635 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,399 lieutenants uh and then after that he 636 00:31:31,399 --> 00:31:35,480 broke away and worked for hestu f food 637 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,600 cop which is a food cop UH 60 plus years 638 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760 old in Albany was General Manager for 5 639 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,200 years and then we've got a geman named 640 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Alex Mika who is uh worked at aneste as 641 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 well and he's since taken a job with 642 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,159 national Cooperative grocers in their 643 00:31:53,159 --> 00:31:55,279 Consulting team he won't be on our 644 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:56,919 project because it would be sort of a 645 00:31:56,919 --> 00:31:58,360 conflict of interest 646 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,279 but he's out helping uh co-ops all 647 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,919 around the country those 230 Co-op 648 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:05,480 grocery stores that I talked about in 649 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120 order for them to make the most of their 650 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480 Co-op right cuz this this organization 651 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,799 gives marketing help HR help legal help 652 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,320 uh operations help point of sale help it 653 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,279 help and all that so those are the two 654 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,440 guys and then I have been involved with 655 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,760 food coops I lived in Denver before here 656 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,760 I was involved in one food co-op that 657 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,600 got turned upside down because the real estate got um too valuable so we 658 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,559 didn't get a chance to open the store so 659 00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:36,200 the the dirt got to be too valuable we 660 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,279 weren't able to open I was on a board of 661 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,000 another Co-op that had a mix of a 662 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360 nonprofit and a for-profit model so we 663 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,159 were able to do a lot of more Community 664 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:49,120 oriented activities so I've been around 665 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,840 cutting my teeth with the co-op space 666 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,760 for a while as well okay one more so 667 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880 also obviously this project is about 668 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880 accessibility and equity and I just 669 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 could you talk a little bit about um 670 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,039 maybe what the value system around 671 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,799 hiring people from the neighborhood as 672 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:07,519 you know section section three workers 673 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,679 as they usually described and people um 674 00:33:10,679 --> 00:33:13,159 uh minority and women um like you talk a 675 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:15,760 little bit about what the ideology is of 676 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,919 the group in Project yeah so we've uh so 677 00:33:20,919 --> 00:33:24,080 we're going to have about uh 38 to 45 678 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000 full-time employees on opening um and we 679 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,639 haven't set any specific policies about 680 00:33:29,639 --> 00:33:33,720 that but we want the makeup of our our 681 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,000 store to be the makeup of our community 682 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,919 so without getting into too many details 683 00:33:38,919 --> 00:33:41,399 we want it to reflect our community 684 00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:43,240 itself thank 685 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,279 you any other questions 686 00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:48,519 comments well thank you for coming and 687 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:49,720 thank you for all the hard work I know 688 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,039 it's been years of work and they could 689 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:53,440 drop the ball on thank you so much 690 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,240 everybody I really appreciate your time 691 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,320 and we'll we'll discuss this in in our 692 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,240 committee come on thank you very much 693 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:14,950 for 694 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,320 coming good evening mayor Madam 695 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,639 president city council I apologize for 696 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,639 my tardiness we had an unforeseen um 697 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,480 fire and development so I do apologize 698 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,149 for that 699 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,200 um next we have 700 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,760 our mirac Freddy project which is the 701 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000 hand we now today have presenting before 702 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,520 us the Hamilton Hill um Cooperative 703 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Association which is made up of some 704 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,960 community service providers that are 705 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,760 vested in keeping the Maran crate 706 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,760 project in the hands of the community 707 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,359 and they are presenting today asking us 708 00:34:52,359 --> 00:34:54,280 to reimagine what that Family Center 709 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,440 will be so today we have brother Johan 710 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,280 Matthews who will be presenting 711 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,470 on behalf of the 712 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,480 co-op thank you everybody I'm going to 713 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,829 pass on 714 00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:13,000 yeah we have a printed version 715 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:26,630 of should be enough for everybody at the 716 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,839 table Carl and 717 00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:32,880 I he's good he's 718 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,720 good all right all right now 719 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,160 we're excellent so thank you for having 720 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,960 us my name is Johan Matthews here to 721 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,440 speak on behalf of the Hamilton Hill 722 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,920 Community Cooperative so we're distinct 723 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,000 from ml we saw their efforts we're 724 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,119 inspired we were hoping to get involved 725 00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:58,440 once it was completed but but that leg 726 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,520 of the journey has been completed and so 727 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520 we're here now looking what's going to 728 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,119 happen moving forward now that this 729 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,119 building's been returned and we know the 730 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,760 community still needs this service so 731 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,240 before we go into who we are as a 732 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,319 Hamilton Hill Community Cooperative uh 733 00:36:14,319 --> 00:36:17,119 and this project idea reimagining that 734 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,000 space in order to provide services as 735 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 the Carver family community center I'd 736 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,160 like to introduce you to 737 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,119 Janet so this is Janet she's a ham Hill 738 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,680 resident been there her whole life and 739 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,319 she is well loved by the community great 740 00:36:34,319 --> 00:36:38,440 energy better smile people love her and 741 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,520 uh she works parttime at Marshalls you 742 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,960 know she doesn't have fulltime hours 743 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960 she's been wanting it for a while and 744 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,200 she's going to school in the evening to 745 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800 be a nurse all right but lately she's 746 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,319 been anxious in fact she's 747 00:36:51,319 --> 00:36:53,880 expecting and she's expecting and 748 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,240 anxious because this is not her first 749 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,599 child right me Lamar this is her first 750 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,280 son this individual is energetic like 751 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,119 his mother loves to draw just an awesome 752 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,720 little kid but he spends most of his 753 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,400 evenings uh at home playing video games 754 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,280 while his mother has to run to the the 755 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,599 school run to her job he's doing his 756 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,000 thing at home exploring the world the 757 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000 video games at home right and she's also 758 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 nervous about that but she's more 759 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 nervous because his dad is not in the 760 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,839 picture right nice young guy L but he's 761 00:37:28,839 --> 00:37:31,079 not there right they were young when 762 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:33,880 they had him that passionate romance 763 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,280 allowed U that passion relationship 764 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,720 allowed romance but it also allowed a 765 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:40,280 lot of arguments so Lamar spends his 766 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040 time at home with Grandma Joanne right 767 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,920 here moved to to Hill in the '90s from 768 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520 the city for her family so that they can 769 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,000 have a second chance right she's watched 770 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,079 the community transformed over the last 771 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,560 20 years 30 years and she's watched her 772 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,520 family grow up watching little Lamar 773 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,480 from a baby until now now meet little 774 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Joelle right that's who Grandma spends 775 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,760 her days watching they're waiting on a 776 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,880 preschool or daycare waiting list to 777 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200 open up so she get get can get in there 778 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,520 but right now Grandma's watching her all 779 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,079 right and that's Stacy above Grandma 780 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,960 she's the heart of the family she works 781 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,280 as a medical billing specialist she 782 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,560 dreams of having a Cookie Company you 783 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,280 know so instead of dealing with cavities 784 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,440 she'll cause them and but she doesn't 785 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,160 know how she doesn't know how start a 786 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,400 business you know how to deal with money 787 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,400 that's Unk that's grandma Joann's um 788 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,319 only son he just came home a few years 789 00:38:36,319 --> 00:38:40,400 ago and he is known as the wizard cuz 790 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,240 he's a a local chess Grandmaster right 791 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,680 so he loves to spend his days in Barber 792 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920 Shop playing chess dropping pearls 793 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,160 studying philosophy but he can't get a 794 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,599 job right everyone sees his character 795 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,400 today he's on his best behavior but 796 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,800 employers won't let him live down his 797 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400 Worst Behavior so look at this family 798 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560 this is a typical family H to hill now 799 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,359 I'd like to introduce their Lifeline 800 00:39:04,359 --> 00:39:07,760 this is you're kind of Highly efficient 801 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000 nonprofit service provider providing 802 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960 very efficiently um needed services like 803 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,720 food right local community members 804 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,640 donate it they catch a cab have a ride 805 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,520 come they go out to their Community they 806 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,839 live in Hamilton Hill but they leave and 807 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,119 go get this food from this Pantry they 808 00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,040 need this food these services and when 809 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,680 they go there they feel as though 810 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,280 they're getting some of what they need 811 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,079 but they have to give so much they have 812 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,079 to wait in line wait behind the glass 813 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:37,720 tell their life story victimize 814 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,599 themselves it's kind of a poor 815 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,839 experience though they need they need 816 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:44,599 help they don't feel needy right now I'd 817 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,240 like to introduce the Carver Family 818 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,960 Resource Center right so this is the 819 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,480 vision that we're here to share this is 820 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,359 a multi-stakeholder membership 821 00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:55,839 organization we've got a th Community 822 00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,160 member owners who walk in this building 823 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,920 like they own it because literally they 824 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,240 do and that's how they treat it whether 825 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,200 they they for services around food or 826 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,000 housing or dayare they are treated like 827 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,720 they belong we also have investor 828 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,480 members these are institutional 829 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,800 investors like this connect Foundation 830 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319 or possibly the city who serve as a 831 00:40:17,319 --> 00:40:19,920 foundation for this initiative they've 832 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,640 designed and seeded a trust that 833 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,680 provides um income for the operations of 834 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,359 this Center in perpetuity so they've 835 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:31,960 seated a fund and that fund is in the 836 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160 trust and every year it gives out 837 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,800 dividends to support this activity 838 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,359 overall covering the cost within the 839 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:42,079 first 5 to 7 years we've also got the 840 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,560 service provider members many of which 841 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,599 are assembled in this room but there in 842 00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,960 this case 10 members and they all have 843 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440 the resources they need to serve the ham 844 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,079 Hill families so this is an ecosystem of 845 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:57,839 family centered services 846 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,040 right in the heart of ham Hill right in 847 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440 the heart of the craigman connection so 848 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,400 when we look at this picture we see 849 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,760 Janet who now has maternal care like 850 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680 adulla to help her ease those anxieties 851 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,000 she feel about being a mother again 852 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880 right we've also got community father 853 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,920 who can provide support groups and 854 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,640 domestic violence training and anger 855 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,760 management training to help LEL get back 856 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480 into the picture we've got after school 857 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,599 program for little Lamar who can come 858 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:29,920 and leverage his love for drawing maybe 859 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,839 become the next Marshall Jones of SK all 860 00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:34,880 right provided by the art center we've 861 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000 got little Joel who is not going to be 862 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,319 on the waiting list for preschool 863 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:41,319 anymore she's going to be in um Sprouts 864 00:41:41,319 --> 00:41:43,160 daycare we're going to have a daycare on 865 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,319 site and for Aunt Stacy she's going to 866 00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:47,880 learn how to start a business and manage 867 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880 her finances from uink to the economic 868 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,920 artment Center we're going to have those 869 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,480 resources to teach you about financial 870 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,480 literacy as well as how to start a 871 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,480 business and for an not only could he 872 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,200 serve as a a coach and Mentor for many 873 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,920 of the youth programs we'll have ring of 874 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,319 ho boxing or uh electric swarm he can 875 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,960 also get Workforce Development support 876 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000 when to start a business learn to build 877 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,839 his trades and for Grandma instead of 878 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:17,160 spending all her time taking care of 879 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,520 others we have a food prep service 880 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,720 providing healthy fresh meals for her 881 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,520 okay so she can get off medication so we 882 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640 literally have have an ecosystem of 883 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,280 services for the mothers who are 884 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,800 expecting babies to the grandma Whois 885 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,040 them that's what we're looking at so 886 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680 where are we now well as I mentioned 887 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,040 we've established 10 service providers 888 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,760 these are homegrown institutions that 889 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,920 came out of the soil of skincity and 890 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,480 they're here to support the people who 891 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,720 already already support them already get 892 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,319 support from them right so that's 893 00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:54,599 Community fathers the hamon Hill Arts 894 00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:58,559 Center you corporate um um we've got 895 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,040 interest from the economic empowerment 896 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,800 Center we've got this connect to the um 897 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,160 City Ministry and the city Ministries 898 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,040 and a few others right so we have 10 cor 899 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,599 members who are nonprofit service 900 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,720 providers who are going to be members of 901 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:15,280 this Community Cooperative using the 902 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,440 space to provide services in the heart 903 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,079 of the community all right we're hoping 904 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,559 to continue the campaign in the 905 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,079 community to get up to a th000 community 906 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:27,440 members we know over 500 people of sign 907 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,520 petitions we have multiple pages of 908 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,400 folks signing petitions we're going to 909 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,319 ask 1,000 community members there's over 910 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:36,000 7,000 people in Hamilton Hill in Vil 911 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,960 area to provide $100 to help Capital 912 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,920 capitalize us right so ,000 of $100 next 913 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,480 we're going to invite investor members 914 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,800 between March and may we think and we've 915 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,400 already had support from the skan 916 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200 foundation many of you guys might see 917 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960 the letter of support from them to join 918 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,599 us as investor members he investor 919 00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,839 members or institutions who can provide 920 00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:01,440 ink kind support as well as financial 921 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,160 support we're going to be asking for up 922 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,839 to 150,000 from 10 of these guys and so 923 00:44:06,839 --> 00:44:09,000 maybe the average will be 100,000 so 924 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,599 that's how we're looking to continue 925 00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:12,040 this journey we have the service 926 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,280 provider members we know the community 927 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,559 is is there to support this and next 928 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:17,800 we're hoping to tap into the 929 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,680 institutional community of which we have 930 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,760 a lot of support from the scy 931 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680 foundation next step of course after 932 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,119 this communication today we're hoping to 933 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:29,520 fire Carver and work together with the 934 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,760 city values align developers to make 935 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,440 this happen not with Jo matchs but for 936 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,680 the ham Hill families right they need it 937 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,200 so if we can work together I'm sure we 938 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,319 can figure it out uh between March this 939 00:44:43,319 --> 00:44:45,480 year and June 940 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,079 2025 that's almost a year a little over 941 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:50,359 here sorry we can make this happen 942 00:44:50,359 --> 00:44:51,760 according to the quotes from the 943 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,880 contractors it's about 6 months for the 944 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,640 construction to be completed once they 945 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,640 get started 946 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,960 this is just based in correspondence 947 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,240 I've seen so that building could be 948 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,319 stabilized by December if we wanted to 949 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:06,160 however obviously nothing works so 950 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,800 perfectly and they're saying if it's not 951 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,400 fixed by some parts of it not 952 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,680 stabilized uh some parts won't make it 953 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,480 through the winter so I know there's a 954 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,680 sense of urgency there and the bill is 955 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,240 on the historic register so the final 956 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,920 step of course looking to end of next 957 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,400 year we to formalize our offerings as 958 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,480 this communities cooperative and open 959 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,079 the doors as the Hamilton Hill Community 960 00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:35,240 Co-op and and offer the services we 961 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,839 mentioned for the Parson's family so 962 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:41,400 that's the next step so what's this cost 963 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,599 start up on you guys all have do 964 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,200 proposal you know that the lowest bids 965 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,800 for the project came in at around 2.9 966 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,240 Million for construction so that 967 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,079 includes everything but maybe by um some 968 00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:55,960 smaller details uh commercial kitchen 969 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,680 and things like that so we have a little 970 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,559 bit of a build out there for that 971 00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:02,280 commercial kitchens can run anywhere 40 972 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,400 to 200 for you know very extravagant so 973 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,800 we just put that in there cushion maybe 974 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,280 a security system like a fob system 975 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200 every member gets a little fob in and 976 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920 out we know who's in and 10% for working 977 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,400 capital to support the operations over 978 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,440 that first three or four years so that 979 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,640 total is about 980 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,119 $3.5 million to start up sources we know 981 00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,720 the city of SK has previously allocated 982 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,400 $1.2 million to this project we're going 983 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,480 to ask that you continue that allocation 984 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,280 right we know the community needs it we 985 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,359 know we need to spend the money I think 986 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:40,280 it's a match next the hamton hill 987 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,319 Community co-ops members as I mentioned 988 00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,720 we have three classes of members we have 989 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,760 the residential members people who live 990 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,240 in Hamilton hill we have the service 991 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,040 provider members these homegrown 992 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,640 institutions providing these needed 993 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000 services and as well as our investor uh 994 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,760 institutional investors members who can 995 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,480 help us design and see the trust so that 996 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,920 we can perpetually benefit from that 997 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,559 trust and have a self-sustaining program 998 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,119 in addition to the the grants and so on 999 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,599 that these 10 organizations are used to 1000 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:13,000 attracting these are you know relatively 1001 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640 well-known organizations despite being 1002 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920 underresourced we also are looking at an 1003 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,960 office of Child and Family Services 1004 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,760 grant for child care when the child care 1005 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,280 is needed in the community they're 1006 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,400 homebased providers but this can be a 1007 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,680 way to support that so we partner with 1008 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,119 the art center submit a $1.5 million 1009 00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,680 application we looking for about 1010 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040 $750,000 finally CF The Cooperative fund 1011 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,319 of the Northeast I'm affiliated with 1012 00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:43,119 this fund and I help form and financed 1013 00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,559 cooperatives across the country they can 1014 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:48,240 provide up to $2 million per deal we 1015 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,720 probably looking for a $500,000 line of 1016 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,160 credit and if we can get less um we 1017 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,920 probably go less because you know we 1018 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,040 don't want to start with de debt 1019 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,760 probably around 5% 5 and 12% so that's 1020 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,160 what we're dealing with there this is 1021 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,640 some of the monthly expenses right now 1022 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,880 this is what folks can expect to pay for 1023 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,079 their current programming so you know 1024 00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:13,319 that's about $7,000 a month as far as 1025 00:48:13,319 --> 00:48:14,559 what folks are used to paying for their 1026 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,240 real estate we want to save folks money 1027 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,079 right they're sharing this space making 1028 00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:20,480 ownership more accessible because 1029 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,359 they're sharing it additionally we'd 1030 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,520 want to provide other services like 1031 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,559 shared bookkeeping shared accounting 1032 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:29,960 shared marketing the more money we save 1033 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,160 these groups the more money they have to 1034 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,960 support this initiative and provide 1035 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,040 services to the community on the expense 1036 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,079 side we know we're going to see staff 1037 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:40,400 we're hoping to initially start with a 1038 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,440 community manager someone who could deal 1039 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,480 with the internal Community make sure 1040 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,720 everyone has what they need the 1041 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:48,599 temperature is right if Halls are swept 1042 00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,440 we'll have an office manager you know 1043 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,079 collecting rent keeping the books in 1044 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,599 order both part-time initially 1045 00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:58,000 increasing over time you take ities and 1046 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,760 internet we use some commercial real 1047 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,960 estate averages 2.1 $210 per square foot 1048 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,480 multiply that by the 20,000 s ft and we 1049 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,319 get these numbers as well as property 1050 00:49:11,319 --> 00:49:13,680 main maintenance we use other industry 1051 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,480 averages 2.3 times the 20,000 ft to get 1052 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,359 that number for insurance fill out an 1053 00:49:20,359 --> 00:49:21,720 application online using one of those 1054 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,200 services to spit out a quote around 800 1055 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,000 a month we can probably do around up to 1056 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000 a th000 some 1057 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,400 comparable uh organizations that I've 1058 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,640 called and got cours for give me their 1059 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,400 number problem maxent out about, 1060 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,760 month so sustainability plan as I 1061 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,680 mentioned we're hoping to get working 1062 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,240 capital or Operational Support 100,000 1063 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:49,839 split over the next 3 4 years that we 1064 00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:53,000 also get usage fees we can probably 1065 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,200 expect at Max Capacity to get $84,000 as 1066 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,480 a say 70,000 a month for the you know 1067 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,640 couple of organizations in there but we 1068 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,880 assume a 50% usage rate so we say 1069 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,520 42,000 if we see a fund for 1070 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,680 $150,000 right one of our investors or 1071 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,920 multiple can do so help us design and 1072 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,359 see the fund at 7% average return that's 1073 00:50:16,359 --> 00:50:19,599 $10,000 a year one so we can get that to 1074 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:21,880 get the ball rolling next up space 1075 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,799 rental this is just community members 1076 00:50:23,799 --> 00:50:25,599 who want to access the space Maybe host 1077 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,960 a tournament whatever the case is we get 1078 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,160 three or four of those 250 or so you 1079 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,799 know we put it in 1080 00:50:32,799 --> 00:50:36,520 there and um all the expenses are 1081 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480 basically self-explanatory for marketing 1082 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,359 we're looking to maybe do a documentary 1083 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:43,520 year one to show the community this 1084 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,359 model of cooperation to show this story 1085 00:50:46,359 --> 00:50:48,319 we think it could be a powerful story 1086 00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:50,720 and then regular Market materials 1087 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,799 supplies is miscellaneous toilet paper 1088 00:50:52,799 --> 00:50:55,720 ink so on Professional Services for Year 1089 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:58,559 One this will be a lawyer to help us 1090 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,359 design the Trust In collaboration with 1091 00:51:00,359 --> 00:51:02,520 our Institutional Investor members we 1092 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,359 already have a lawyer we're working with 1093 00:51:04,359 --> 00:51:07,040 but you know a trust simple trust could 1094 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,520 range from 1095 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,040 $6,000 all the way up to 10,000 for a 1096 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,079 very complicated one we're just trying 1097 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:15,760 to do something that would make sense 1098 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,680 and then finally interest only payments 1099 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,510 under lineing 1100 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,200 credit so year two these cost just 1101 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,799 continue to increase if we get two more 1102 00:51:25,799 --> 00:51:28,040 investors in that F and that fund that 1103 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,319 we want to do that uh undividable 1104 00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:33,839 reserves we can get you know 500,000 7% 1105 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,680 of that 35,000 that's helping us to get 1106 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,839 to Brick 1107 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:41,640 even by year three we've broken even 1108 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,520 we've earned 1109 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,960 234,000 expenses 1110 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,079 215,000 obviously this is best case 1111 00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:49,880 scenario and the numbers are very 1112 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,079 conservative we'll be looking to reduce 1113 00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:56,119 costs using um ecoe efficiency measures 1114 00:51:56,119 --> 00:52:00,240 such as LED bulbs um we want to do um 1115 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,839 solar panels we want to do automatic 1116 00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:05,599 shut offs things like that all these 1117 00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:08,359 basic things and my company is involved 1118 00:52:08,359 --> 00:52:10,880 with a few of these types of um 1119 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,440 proposals through nerto and so on so we 1120 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,520 think we could take advantage of that 1121 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,839 and try to figure that piece out uh 1122 00:52:16,839 --> 00:52:19,400 potential Partners all of these guys 1123 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,280 have demonstrated some support in the 1124 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,000 past to this or something like this the 1125 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,440 CDs connected 1.2 Metroplex 1126 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,200 150,000 seeing you know what folks 1127 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,720 desire to continue to support this 1128 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,240 second leg of the journey would be and 1129 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:37,119 see what's going on as we said the 1130 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,720 building is in the heart of the craigman 1131 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,040 connection we've seen a lot of support 1132 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,480 from tono and Santa Barbara at the 1133 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,720 political level and recently we even saw 1134 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,720 Santa Barbara supporting myai who was at 1135 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:49,640 risk of leaving because you know they 1136 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,599 had a building that was uh facing some 1137 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,520 disrepair so we think there's a lot of 1138 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,079 precedent for support around Community 1139 00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:59,040 Center especially a homegrown one like 1140 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,160 Harver that has such significance 1141 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,680 historically connect to the county we 1142 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,359 have friends over there who we think 1143 00:53:06,359 --> 00:53:07,880 will be supportive of this and we'll 1144 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,440 rely on you guys to help us to connect 1145 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,760 to that the conected foundation I 1146 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,200 mention we already have a letter of 1147 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,720 support from them and a desire to 1148 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:17,359 connect us to the philanthropic 1149 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:19,400 community in the capital region 1150 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,640 literally around table going into the 1151 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,400 room pitching this many funders at once 1152 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,880 to see who would be interested in 1153 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,559 joining into the 1154 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:29,599 so that's the right Community Foundation 1155 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,880 Capal region many others we think 1156 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,599 there's interest or could be interest 1157 00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:35,680 from the steart foundation business for 1158 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160 good already had to line out for this so 1159 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,720 we're queued up for a conversation from 1160 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,799 them the T Foundation has supported the 1161 00:53:42,799 --> 00:53:44,839 um restorative justice housing fund 1162 00:53:44,839 --> 00:53:46,760 providing millions of dollars to Black 1163 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,440 and low-income homeowners in the capital 1164 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,839 region so we think they'd be queued up 1165 00:53:50,839 --> 00:53:54,359 for this friends with that program and 1166 00:53:54,359 --> 00:53:56,200 uh and a few others that I've mentioned 1167 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,319 as as well as a few community 1168 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:00,319 development financial institutions 1169 00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:02,559 Community Loan Fund C region I used to 1170 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:04,520 be a technical assistance provider there 1171 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,000 they're less activist connect but 1172 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,680 they're part of the original deal I'm 1173 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,680 sure we can have a conversation and the 1174 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,359 Cooperative front which I'm currently 1175 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:14,000 affiliated with providing Finance or 1176 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,920 access to finance to emerging 1177 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,359 communities across the 1178 00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:20,680 country so right now with the 1.2 that 1179 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,200 the city already had allocated for this 1180 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040 project all of what's on the screen is 1181 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,400 possible 1182 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,280 all abatement of hazardous materials all 1183 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,000 demolition of unneeded materials and 1184 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,559 systems finished installation of new 1185 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,720 electrical service and installing 1186 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,520 temporary lighting owering the building 1187 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,839 s new tours and inspections and so on 1188 00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:46,920 all roof repairs and Replacements all 1189 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,200 sight improvements fa fencing landscape 1190 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,839 Asal gravel pavement 1191 00:54:52,839 --> 00:54:55,440 stripping um exterior and interior 1192 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,280 masonry work and repairs including new 1193 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,880 doorways where needed exterior slabs for 1194 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,119 mechanical equipment all window repairs 1195 00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:09,040 and Replacements all exterior door 1196 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,160 repairs and Replacements renovation of a 1197 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,720 bathroom by the back door renovation of 1198 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:15,640 the 1199 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,760 auditorium and so on so quite a lot is 1200 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,920 already possible if we come together 1201 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,400 even more is possible so that's the 1202 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160 point of this entire uh 1203 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:32,470 effort I welcome your 1204 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,039 questions thank Mr barley so first of I 1205 00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:37,359 like to appreciate the way you frame 1206 00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:39,760 that sometimes we get caught up in our 1207 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,319 thinking around the project and we 1208 00:55:41,319 --> 00:55:43,599 forget that the project was really about 1209 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,720 people um so I I I I can appreciate that 1210 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,680 I wanted to um ask a question as you're 1211 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,280 looking at taking on Partners um I know 1212 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520 that there's talks of uh other Community 1213 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,480 Partners just in the swirling of 1214 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,599 interested um and you're uh it seems 1215 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,559 like this group is actually looking to 1216 00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:03,839 collaborate with other uh stakeholders 1217 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:06,680 in order to sustain um in order for 1218 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,319 sustainability that's that's correct 1219 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:10,960 right yeah we're happy to collaborate 1220 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,440 with any values aligned in investor 1221 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,559 service provider and developer and when 1222 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,640 we say values Line Community centered 1223 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,400 creating a sense of ownership for the 1224 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,520 community providing a new model so we 1225 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,240 think anyone who's open to that 1226 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,440 certainly someone you're willing to work 1227 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,750 with thank 1228 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,039 you so this will not be a 501c3 that it 1229 00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:35,079 will be a 1230 00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:38,200 Cooperative so there's two ways to think 1231 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,720 of this one is the character of the 1232 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,039 business you can be cooperative in 1233 00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,880 nature because we're all engaged in this 1234 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,680 decision- making process in a one Member 1235 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,000 One vote right you can do so as a 1236 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,400 nonprofit as a for-profit and then you 1237 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,079 can think about the actual entity form 1238 00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,920 right right whether it's a nonprofit 1239 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,839 for-profit or cooperative Corporation 1240 00:57:00,839 --> 00:57:04,400 you can create the entity to suit the 1241 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,680 financial environment if the people with 1242 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,520 the problem can pay for it that's a 1243 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,200 business if the people with a problem 1244 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,799 can't pay for it that's a nonprofit 1245 00:57:13,799 --> 00:57:16,119 right with the co-op we're going to pay 1246 00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,559 to solve this problem together right 1247 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,319 like the food co-op they have their 1248 00:57:21,319 --> 00:57:23,280 customers built-in that's their members 1249 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,000 with a residential Co-op they have their 1250 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,319 um customers built in that's their 1251 00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:29,960 renters or their residential owners with 1252 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,119 a worker cop they have the labor built 1253 00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,480 in and so on so forth so we can choose 1254 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960 an entity form that's conducive to 1255 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,280 whatever the environment is and we're 1256 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,200 working on that right now with a lawyer 1257 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,839 okay thank 1258 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:45,000 you Mr Williams uh first I just wanted 1259 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,039 to to point out I very much appreciate 1260 00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:48,119 the way in which you started your 1261 00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:51,559 presentation uh I think uh hearing it U 1262 00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:56,400 framed in that way accurately put the appropriate level of importance on 1263 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,599 ensuring that this project sees sees a 1264 00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,079 fair opportunity uh one of the points I 1265 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,799 wanted to to ask at to uh and I thought 1266 00:58:03,799 --> 00:58:06,480 it was a a very good point that you made 1267 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200 you identified that the starting of 1268 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,240 construction uh conservative or not 1269 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,720 conservative but uh if we started now it 1270 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,680 would uh consist of March 2024 to June 1271 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,480 of 2025 is that correct be less than 1272 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,039 that 6 months is what you know the bid 1273 00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:26,200 says so but you know perfect conditions 1274 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,119 obviously is what they're thinking um 1275 00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,119 but the point I wanted to highlight is 1276 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:32,160 uh you identifi just the continuation of 1277 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,599 no renovations being conducted this 1278 00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,839 building going through another winter 1279 00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:38,839 exactly from your conversations would 1280 00:58:38,839 --> 00:58:41,760 you mind expanding on that so all I have 1281 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,640 are corresponding snapshots delivered uh 1282 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,880 from the architect and the construction 1283 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,319 documents pertaining to that to the city 1284 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:53,440 and to you know the previous holders of 1285 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,720 the Baton so you know the correspondence 1286 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,359 is all with the city and I can kind of 1287 00:58:58,359 --> 00:59:00,240 reference that but that's all I know 1288 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,839 that there's a suspect there's an 1289 00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:04,440 opinion that the building certain 1290 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,480 aspects of it will not last probably 1291 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,240 roof and these types of things so the 1292 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,480 construction details are all with the 1293 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,240 city at this point but I think it's safe 1294 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,079 to surise that just that the Coster is 1295 00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:17,119 going to continue to Skyrock longer that 1296 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,720 this building exists in its current 1297 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,880 condition um the cost of doing nothing 1298 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,799 now is definitely more substantial than 1299 00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:27,079 the opportunity to do something buy 1300 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:30,720 absolutely um I did want to focus on the 1301 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,319 sources for the projected startup cost 1302 00:59:33,319 --> 00:59:36,240 uh you identified in the Hamilton Hill 1303 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,599 of community collaborative that the 1304 00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,240 members would uh consist of1 million 1305 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,839 $110,000 do you have a timeline for how 1306 00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:49,039 you start yeah so we already have this 1307 00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:50,799 10 service providers that we think are 1308 00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:52,880 core each of them could do a buying of 1309 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,079 $1,000 1310 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:56,839 $10,000 then we believe a ,000 community 1311 00:59:56,839 --> 00:59:59,440 members over 600 or so have already 1312 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,599 demonstrated support of this we go to 1313 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:04,359 that list and we try to get the next 400 1314 01:00:04,359 --> 01:00:07,240 each of them given $100 they can pay it 1315 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,559 over the course of several months if 1316 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:10,520 they needed to but that's what it would 1317 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,440 take they've already signed a petition 1318 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,920 so ,000 then we go to up to 10 1319 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,000 Institutional Investor members within 1320 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000 the cical region Community to provide up 1321 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,240 to 1322 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,000 $150,000 assuming the average will be 1323 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,760 100,000 some be less whatever that's 10 1324 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,920 at 100,000 that's a million that's 1,000 1325 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,960 people at $100 that's $100,000 and 1326 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,280 that's 10 service providers at 1,000 1327 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,559 that's 1328 01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:39,599 $1,110,000 1329 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:42,599 and if you had to assign a a date to 1330 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,520 that or a time line gotta yeah I would 1331 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,039 say over the next 3 months we're going 1332 01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:48,760 to get cooking on that and obviously 1333 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,480 we'll continue to campaing throughout 1334 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,680 the year you think the sense of urgency 1335 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,119 is going to drive people to action and 1336 01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,200 see if it's possible 1337 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,599 Mr M yeah just follow on that you you 1338 01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,119 mentioned about having 10 core members 1339 01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:03,839 at 1340 01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:06,799 $100,000 100,000 is that correct 10 core 1341 01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,280 members the service providers yes that' 1342 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,000 be 10,000 also 1,000 each yeah so is 1343 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,799 that a you mentioned petition or is 1344 01:01:13,799 --> 01:01:15,440 there a commitment letter from from 1345 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,119 these individuals or agencies we are all 1346 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,079 committed um we're creating the 1347 01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:23,400 coroporation right now we don't you know 1348 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,119 have a memorandum of understanding 1349 01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:26,599 between ourselves but we're showing up 1350 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,839 every week meeting and you know a lot of 1351 01:01:28,839 --> 01:01:30,319 them are in the room right now they can 1352 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:32,440 speak for themselves happy to 1353 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,039 demonstrate that commitment yeah so you 1354 01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,280 mentioned about creating this entity now 1355 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,760 you're in the process of doing that so 1356 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,079 it's not finalized it yet and you are 1357 01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:44,359 not sure if it's going to be a non 1358 01:01:44,359 --> 01:01:46,440 for-profit or a for-profit entity at 1359 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,559 this point in time we have two options 1360 01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:52,359 on the table obviously it could be uh 1361 01:01:52,359 --> 01:01:54,720 for-profit Cooperative Corporation sub 1362 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,920 CH te or or it could be a 501 C12 kind 1363 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,680 of a variation on the C3 model the 1364 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,960 charitable nonprofit and this would 1365 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,640 again just be based on making sure we 1366 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,680 can do everything we want to do uh 1367 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,880 within the context and within the 1368 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,160 financial environment so those are the 1369 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,480 two options we have we just have to kind 1370 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,319 of vot to move forward we do have the 1371 01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:16,720 lawyer we do believe we can get the EXP 1372 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,559 that in so I was going ask that it's 1373 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,000 something that you should exp if you 1374 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,480 power yeah and the you know 10 1375 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,119 organizations are establish nonprofits 1376 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,279 and for-profit business if we needed a 1377 01:02:29,279 --> 01:02:31,839 fiscal sponsor we have that you know 1378 01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:33,680 that's pretty typical but yes you're 1379 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,359 right we have to choose one and we're in 1380 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:37,520 the process of doing so yeah you also 1381 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,240 mentioned about the Grant from ocfs are 1382 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,880 they paperwork in or are you just 1383 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,400 exploring that so we included the 1384 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,720 deadline for the application and you 1385 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,839 know Rachel could speak a little bit to 1386 01:02:50,839 --> 01:02:53,559 submit sorry planning to submit plan to 1387 01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,520 submit and the next one the letter of 1388 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,680 credit are you doing the same in terms 1389 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,799 of getting the paperwork in yeah yeah 1390 01:02:59,799 --> 01:03:01,640 I've already spoken to the loan officer 1391 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,599 and we're kind of exploring that piece 1392 01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:07,520 already and the reason why I mentioned 1393 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,359 it because we're looking at you 1394 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,359 mentioned the lowest bet at 1395 01:03:11,359 --> 01:03:13,839 2.9 and you're estimating a total 1396 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:16,559 completion of 3.56 million yeah so the 1397 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:19,160 shortfall is about you know significant 1398 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,359 amount so that is where my question is 1399 01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:24,480 coming in in terms of the hhcc members 1400 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,200 getting a commitment from them 1401 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,640 and not only a beer petition or a letter 1402 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,319 or an email or a text that they going to 1403 01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:35,079 do that it's more someone need to make a 1404 01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:37,039 formal commitment in terms of these 1405 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,839 funding because these are critical 1406 01:03:38,839 --> 01:03:42,839 funding to complete this project MH yeah 1407 01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:45,400 and of course you know I agree with that 1408 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,359 um I would say the 50 years the art 1409 01:03:48,359 --> 01:03:50,720 Center's been here is a commitment 20 1410 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,200 years from Community fathers is a 1411 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,279 commitment we're very much committed to 1412 01:03:54,279 --> 01:03:56,200 this many of these groups well 1413 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,279 respective organizations are working 1414 01:03:58,279 --> 01:04:00,720 with the executives you know making less 1415 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,440 than what we believe is the moderate 1416 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,240 income you know what I mean so the 1417 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,760 commitment is there but we will get it 1418 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,319 in writing you're absolutely right now 1419 01:04:07,319 --> 01:04:09,440 you didn't mention sorry you didn't 1420 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,400 mention a list of U foundations are you 1421 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,799 reaching out to them or are you sending 1422 01:04:13,799 --> 01:04:16,000 formal letters to bring them on board as 1423 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,839 being um FAL Partners yes and we've 1424 01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:22,039 already gotten a letter of support from 1425 01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:25,799 the skan foundation in writing and that 1426 01:04:25,799 --> 01:04:28,640 will be kind of a catalyst as we know 1427 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,079 the foundation is a catalyst and Bob has 1428 01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:33,480 already volunteered to start to connect 1429 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,599 us to that founding round table that I 1430 01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,440 mentioned before they meet a few times a 1431 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,119 year so we're going to be queued up for 1432 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:41,920 that however that plays out as well as 1433 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,119 oneon-one conversations with each of 1434 01:04:44,119 --> 01:04:46,000 funders that we have listed so I've 1435 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,799 already reached out to many of them some 1436 01:04:47,799 --> 01:04:50,119 of them you know obviously we need to 1437 01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:52,119 have some measure of assurance from the 1438 01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:54,680 city we're not looking to be across the 1439 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,319 table from you guys we going be looking 1440 01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:58,319 at this problem together moving forward 1441 01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:01,039 together so as long as that's you know 1442 01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,079 the path to beginning that conversation 1443 01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:05,559 is clear I think we're going to be full 1444 01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:08,000 seee just just a follow I'm going to go 1445 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,480 back to the registration if you were to 1446 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,000 put a timeline on that can you put a 1447 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,400 timeline on that because I know it's 1448 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,920 very important that you register this 1449 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,720 entity oh for the registration a 1450 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,000 timeline on that seeing how important it 1451 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,200 is yeah um I would say right now we're 1452 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,559 mid March the goal is to have that 1453 01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:30,279 buttoned up by May so that'll be the 1454 01:05:30,279 --> 01:05:32,880 timeline next 3 months but certainly 1455 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,839 before that we'll be completed if we 1456 01:05:34,839 --> 01:05:37,240 decided to do an LLC which is very 1457 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,680 possible um and still having the 1458 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,480 nonprofit members just have an ownership 1459 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,640 in that that's done next week right so 1460 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,000 there's there's certain things we can do 1461 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,319 quickly and certain things that will 1462 01:05:47,319 --> 01:05:49,720 take time we have a very experienced 1463 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,920 Cooperative lawyer as well as you know 1464 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,400 I'm very familiar with with this process 1465 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,599 so can you can you speak to I know that 1466 01:05:56,599 --> 01:05:58,119 there was another group that was taking 1467 01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,240 this and then um you were trying to 1468 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,799 partner didn't exactly work out so can 1469 01:06:01,799 --> 01:06:04,079 you kind of speak to the time when you 1470 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:05,599 picked up to where you are now because 1471 01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:07,119 it seems pretty you've done a 1472 01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:09,039 significant amount of work in that time 1473 01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:10,559 frame so can you speak to since we 1474 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,720 started organizing this again in 1475 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,160 anticipation of supporting the fruits of 1476 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,039 their labor we were already tuned in now 1477 01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:21,400 we just realized we had to come together 1478 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,359 given the unfortunate nature of the 1479 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:26,039 relinquished property um so over the 1480 01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:28,079 last month or two is when we've been 1481 01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,119 formally organizing pulling these quotes 1482 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:34,599 letting people know about this so that's where we've been we're also 1483 01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:36,200 trying to learn from them you know we 1484 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,119 want to be as open as possible we want 1485 01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:40,319 everyone to know they have a seat if 1486 01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:42,200 their values aligned obviously and 1487 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,760 committed to the community at this table 1488 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,720 and that we can do this together so we 1489 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,520 trying to learn from them we respect 1490 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,720 what they've done we think it's been a 1491 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,839 admirable effort it's brought attention 1492 01:06:52,839 --> 01:06:54,240 to this it's brought a sense of 1493 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,359 possibility and um yeah that's that's 1494 01:06:57,359 --> 01:06:59,440 how we connect to it new new do you have 1495 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,319 something to follow no I think you 1496 01:07:01,319 --> 01:07:02,359 better 1497 01:07:02,359 --> 01:07:06,039 much any other questions or um so I just 1498 01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:09,799 want to be clear your your ask is you 1499 01:07:09,799 --> 01:07:12,279 can articulate your ask so the ask would 1500 01:07:12,279 --> 01:07:14,240 be a pathway to ownership for the 1501 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,480 building right again we see this as a 1502 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,319 city problem shared problem this 1503 01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:19,960 neighborhood's going to feel the burnt 1504 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,200 of that impact and first Ral refusal 1505 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,960 right if we want to do something else 1506 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,880 cuz again these these are all extent 1507 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,920 nonprofit service providers I would say 1508 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,240 homegrown institutions places where 1509 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,839 people feel at home receiving the 1510 01:07:32,839 --> 01:07:35,839 services they need and we also are 1511 01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:39,640 asking for continued allocation of the 1512 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,559 $1.2 million previously allocated and to 1513 01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:47,480 do so on a basis of non-reimbursement so 1514 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,039 whether it's a progress invoicing or 1515 01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:52,400 upfront we aren't capitalized well 1516 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,640 enough to spend money to be reimbursed 1517 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,799 so we don't want it under basis as well 1518 01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:58,760 as matching we're not going to be able 1519 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400 to raise money to get the money that we 1520 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,200 already raised you know so we're asking 1521 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,000 for it to be allocated without those two 1522 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,240 constraints because they're unsuitable 1523 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,359 for us as a group trying to engage this 1524 01:08:10,359 --> 01:08:13,359 project and finally we're asking for you 1525 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:18,159 guys to partner with us to make this 1526 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:21,239 happen so you the way you explained it 1527 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:22,560 the 1528 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,279 1.250 um would be used just for the next 1529 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:28,480 6 months to get the building online is 1530 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:30,920 that do I understand that properly yes 1531 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,279 to make sure this building doesn't 1532 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,839 become more expensive to fix and that's 1533 01:08:34,839 --> 01:08:37,000 how you would looking to spend that 1534 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,799 allocation 1535 01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:41,480 okay other questions yes Mr Williams I 1536 01:08:41,480 --> 01:08:42,799 think final question and I very much 1537 01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:44,799 appreciate your optimism and definitely 1538 01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:47,120 it identifies uh a clear need and I 1539 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,440 don't think that is something that is 1540 01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:50,359 debatable uh that's was highlighted 1541 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:51,880 through the your your narrative at the 1542 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,880 beginning um would you mind just 1543 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,159 identifying what you think your biggest 1544 01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:56,920 obst or hurdle will 1545 01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,080 be yeah I think a lot of us don't know 1546 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,400 what we don't know right you start 1547 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,319 digging up that building all of a sudden 1548 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,759 you know you you uncover some ancestral 1549 01:09:06,759 --> 01:09:08,440 barrier grage something right it's 1550 01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:10,759 haunted who knows so I think just 1551 01:09:10,759 --> 01:09:12,359 there's a lot of things we don't know 1552 01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,960 individually right we have a lot of 1553 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,719 Gusto a lot of capacity but we're 1554 01:09:17,719 --> 01:09:20,480 underresourced so if we can partner with 1555 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,679 other folks like the city who's also you 1556 01:09:22,679 --> 01:09:24,199 know facing certain Shaw Falls or 1557 01:09:24,199 --> 01:09:25,920 whatever the cas is but has a lot of 1558 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,239 capacity in other places we can fill in 1559 01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:30,560 the puzzle so I think just not having it 1560 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,359 all by ourselves is the obstacle and the 1561 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:37,239 cooperation is a solution thank 1562 01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:39,000 you one 1563 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,560 more I think we mentioned a lot of uh 1564 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,279 foundation and and entities I didn't see 1565 01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:45,600 you mention anything about going to the 1566 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,400 county or have a county here as a 1567 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,120 partner have you approached a county to 1568 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,760 this project yes so uh Omar mcel 1569 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,480 supportive of the project and we know 1570 01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:59,400 that there was an effort previously to 1571 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,199 align County um interest in this and so 1572 01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:03,400 we'd want to continue to shake those 1573 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,520 trees again I'm sure a lot of you guys 1574 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,280 are familiar with pokes over there and 1575 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,120 how things work so maybe you can help us 1576 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,630 out as 1577 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,840 well uh any other questions or anybody 1578 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,360 else hear any speaker your do anyone 1579 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,199 like to say 1580 01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:22,719 anything I think that he said everything 1581 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:24,239 that needed to be said you think that he 1582 01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:25,880 said everything okay 1583 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,640 you know but I just want to just say 1584 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,600 then then you do want to say 1585 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,120 something let me just say something 1586 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,360 because I think that even as a community 1587 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,880 resident this is so important to the 1588 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,640 heart of our community this is like a 1589 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,239 heartbeat of our community it has been 1590 01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:44,640 it's always been and right now to walk 1591 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,440 by and see it in the shape that it's in 1592 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,560 and it's sitting empty you know it's 1593 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,520 like a blight besides that I think that 1594 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,840 the fact that we're moving towards 1595 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,400 Cooper 1596 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,960 it would be beautiful if uh many of us 1597 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,440 nonprofits had the kind of money that we 1598 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,320 could just go and buy a building and 1599 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,280 make it happen but we we don't have it 1600 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,400 like that and the fact is that we're 1601 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,920 dealing with a principle I I heard you 1602 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,719 ask to ask people about certain things 1603 01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:15,600 about a value system and a value system 1604 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,480 that we're putting into this is 1605 01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:19,719 cooperative economics and Collective 1606 01:11:19,719 --> 01:11:20,920 work and 1607 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,400 responsibility these are two of the 1608 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,760 seven principles that we deal with when 1609 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,000 we deal with the whole thing of Quant 1610 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,560 and the principles that we try to bring 1611 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,280 to improve our community Through um 1612 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,600 creativity to leave it better than it 1613 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,880 was and also to it's about our city 1614 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,760 showing the type of efforts it makes to 1615 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,760 make sure that the community is involved 1616 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,880 we are very uh Innovative place here in 1617 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,880 skty when I go places and I speak and I 1618 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,199 speak on SKC people have never heard a 1619 01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:58,639 city that does some of the things that 1620 01:11:58,639 --> 01:12:01,480 is being done here in terms of its 1621 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:03,880 Outreach and the way it brings in a 1622 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,800 collectiveness of bringing people 1623 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,560 together and I think this is also 1624 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,199 something that will show that and show 1625 01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:13,639 our community because the community 1626 01:12:13,639 --> 01:12:16,000 wants to see something that it help 1627 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,199 create and I think this is as a resource 1628 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,320 Cent this is really just uh going to 1629 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,760 take it to the next level of the 21st 1630 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,840 Century 1631 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,280 that's all I have to 1632 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,480 say thank 1633 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:33,280 you any other questions oh Mr far yes 1634 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,920 with the p uh so I know that um uh the 1635 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,560 previous group that was kind of leading 1636 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,000 this effort you know um something that 1637 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,760 they did do extremely well was uh going 1638 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,880 out and getting signatures for over 500 1639 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,679 residents that lived in the immediate 1640 01:12:48,679 --> 01:12:52,960 area um so um I can appreciate how this 1641 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,560 uh project is is still in the space of 1642 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,480 what the community was explicit about 1643 01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:01,040 them wanting um so I think that you 1644 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,880 know that's really important to 1645 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,760 highlight and as well as you being 1646 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,440 willing to be responsible to the needs 1647 01:13:06,440 --> 01:13:08,880 of community but also being um willing 1648 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,880 to um welcome other partners on to help 1649 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:16,320 out with um some of this you know the issues around sustainability and and 1650 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,080 as a council I just welcome us to kind 1651 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080 of consider the fact I think to Madame 1652 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,840 president's Point earlier really to her 1653 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,719 question um is that this is um not 1654 01:13:25,719 --> 01:13:27,080 necessarily Community problem but a 1655 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,040 community opportunity that's been 1656 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,040 presented in a really really tight 1657 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,000 timeline based on the circumstances that 1658 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,440 uh uh the last group um found themselves 1659 01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:38,520 in so to pick this up you know you're 1660 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,520 really not starting from zero here 1661 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,800 you're building on what's already there 1662 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,159 and it's still responsible to need to 1663 01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:44,800 the community so just kind of want to 1664 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,159 highlight that absolutely we're a 1665 01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:49,440 distinct group from that group but we 1666 01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:51,600 are continuing a legacy a legacy that 1667 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,719 has inspired the community so thank you 1668 01:13:53,719 --> 01:14:02,070 guys for your time take you thank you 1669 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,960 thank our final pres presentation is 1670 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,520 from um about the Empowerment Center 1671 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,800 brother Ron Gardner our affirmative 1672 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,560 action officer he is presenting today 1673 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,000 asking city council to reconsider the 1674 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,080 arle funds that were allocated 1675 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,760 towards Maurice just threw me off I'm so 1676 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,280 sorry uh 1677 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,239 for Mr Garner did not submit one today 1678 01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:31,480 Maurice thank you he's looking to have 1679 01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:33,880 the funds reallocated for the rehab of 1680 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,000 the Empowerment Center on Albany Street 1681 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,760 um to programming over the next three 1682 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:45,070 years so Mr Ron 1683 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,440 Garner good afternoon good evening 1684 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:55,639 council members mayor SC gas um that was a powerful uh presentation I 1685 01:14:55,639 --> 01:14:58,159 want to set that right the gate and we 1686 01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,239 talking about the economic empowerment 1687 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,360 Center and and I'll just say coming 1688 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,480 right out that's exactly the same 1689 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,480 mission and vision that we've had for 1690 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,520 the past four years in terms of working 1691 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,239 on ctive effort creating uh ecosystem if 1692 01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,880 you will so I'm totally 100% in support 1693 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,840 of what they're proposing here and 1694 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,560 working with them to uh to make this 1695 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,920 happen and what I had specifically asked 1696 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,719 for was we were allocated uh some funds 1697 01:15:25,719 --> 01:15:26,840 to 1698 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,880 uh redevelop 818 Aly Street and I was a 1699 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,400 with the cause of construction and 1700 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,520 getting that whole ecosystem up up the 1701 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,840 line you know that's not uh going to 1702 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,880 happen that's that's not working but but 1703 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,880 I had you know proposal here in terms of 1704 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,840 what we want to do with all our Pro 1705 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,639 program and to that you know creating 1706 01:15:47,639 --> 01:15:50,280 job opportunities uh creating business 1707 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,480 capacity and growing the capacity and 1708 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,159 also developing a pipeline of a work for 1709 01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:57,280 to come to us within the City by way of 1710 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,400 the public safety you know police fire 1711 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,960 and all of the other departments that we 1712 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,520 have within uh our ecosystem within this 1713 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,120 building so so with that 1714 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,000 said uh I I would love to work with this 1715 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,600 group because uh I think this is so 1716 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,199 critically important to uh to really 1717 01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:17,159 make this happen and if we're going to 1718 01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:20,120 be serious and really make a difference 1719 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,120 in the lives of our community I think 1720 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,440 it's laid out and we see these uh 1721 01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:26,159 examples every day when we go out there 1722 01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,880 on the streets and we talk to people and 1723 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,000 I tell folks all the time everybody come 1724 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,239 a lot of people come out every day and 1725 01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:35,719 they're so happy to be in this city but 1726 01:16:35,719 --> 01:16:38,679 they're really in in a desperate State 1727 01:16:38,679 --> 01:16:40,520 and we need to figure out how do we make 1728 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,360 a difference how can we utilize the 1729 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,679 resources in this once in a-lifetime 1730 01:16:44,679 --> 01:16:46,280 opportunity that we have because this is 1731 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,199 truly once in a lifetime and and I would 1732 01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:52,960 certainly you know asked the the counsel 1733 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,080 and um allow opportunity to work you 1734 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,040 know with these groups and others but in 1735 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,880 the Cooperative effort because that's our whole mission is how do we 1736 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,880 create uh the capacity how do we create 1737 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,600 job opportunities and how do we create 1738 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,960 more home buyers and Home Ownership with 1739 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,639 our community and that's really what you 1740 01:17:10,639 --> 01:17:12,320 know what it's all about and that's 1741 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,800 where my heart has been and I'm sure 1742 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,719 that's where I know Dr Walters I I know 1743 01:17:17,719 --> 01:17:20,080 him so but anyway that's that's that's 1744 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,840 where I'm at so 1745 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,320 um I I'll leave at that that's just get 1746 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,520 any question or whatever yes um you 1747 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,760 really weren't explicit on what you 1748 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,199 would like us from the council though 1749 01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:34,360 well specifically what I want to do is 1750 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,360 reallocate the funds that I had that 1751 01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,280 were going toward the construction of 1752 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,560 818 and I want to mooved that into 1753 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,199 programming and when I talked about 1754 01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:45,120 programming I had it broke out into the 1755 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,199 categories of small business support um 1756 01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,679 Workforce Development and also 1757 01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:55,080 developing a pipeline of a Workforce to 1758 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,840 uh come into the the city for by way the 1759 01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,239 fire department police department and 1760 01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:01,280 other agencies within the city so those 1761 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,639 be you know basic categories that I have 1762 01:18:04,639 --> 01:18:08,270 U outlined 1763 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,320 there um 1764 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,960 so do you have a a written plan for us 1765 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,040 that we could you know we be able to 1766 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,360 take a look at that yeah yeah yes I I I have a plan I thought that uh it was 1767 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,920 submitted but anyway I'll I'll give that 1768 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,840 to you and and again I would like to you 1769 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,920 know take time to modify it to reflect 1770 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,520 um you know what we you know you know 1771 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,159 what we learning here and how we can uh 1772 01:18:33,159 --> 01:18:34,679 you know you know make a difference and 1773 01:18:34,679 --> 01:18:35,960 make it 1774 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,639 happen WIS C so we have nothing I do not 1775 01:18:39,639 --> 01:18:41,280 have a plan unless you're ref to the 1776 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,600 plan that should presented early on to 1777 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,560 city council but not just for this 1778 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,120 reallocation exactly okay so Madam 1779 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,159 president Mr F so you might have been on 1780 01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,719 the same kind of page time so basically 1781 01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:58,960 um there there will be a a plan and 1782 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,480 you're saying that based on some of the 1783 01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:01,719 information that you heard today you'd 1784 01:19:01,719 --> 01:19:04,679 like the opportunity to kind of um 1785 01:19:04,679 --> 01:19:06,280 revamp some of that to see what it 1786 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,080 naturally aligns with some of the other 1787 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,080 Reed today know 1788 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,430 so miss 1789 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:17,920 car so how much funding are we talking 1790 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,520 about this point time I think it's we 1791 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,280 need to be clear about dollar 1792 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,920 $875,000 was what was allocated what was 1793 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,360 allocated and some of that's been spent 1794 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:29,880 53,000 1795 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,960 roughly 1796 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,880 okay and 1797 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,920 so so you're you're asking us to take 1798 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,960 the the balance of that the 800 and uh 1799 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,040 whatever it is um to all towards 1800 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,460 programming over the next three 1801 01:19:47,470 --> 01:19:50,159 [Applause] 1802 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,480 years no I just was looking at my notes 1803 01:19:53,480 --> 01:20:24,950 the remaining balances is $823,000 1804 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,360 what they're doing to some level and so 1805 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,800 they're asking for more money as well so 1806 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,960 we're definitely going to have to look 1807 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,040 at this not necessarily together but 1808 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,960 we're going to have to look at that big 1809 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,760 po of funding all at once we we just 1810 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,199 don't have any other money so 1811 01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:42,040 um again there's there's nothing but 1812 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,960 tonight so for clarity Mr Gardner with 1813 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,880 city council you want me to resubmit 1814 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,400 what was submitted the last time you 1815 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,000 came and spoke on programming in the 1816 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,120 Empowerment Center the city council 1817 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,520 which was last month sometime right so so I want to revise that okay 1818 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,440 to to work more collaborative you know 1819 01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:02,840 with this group so we have a more 1820 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,880 cohesive comprehensive plan to that I 1821 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,639 think these resources will help them get 1822 01:21:07,639 --> 01:21:10,679 a little bit closer to the hump and and 1823 01:21:10,679 --> 01:21:12,320 as far as the Empowerment Center and 1824 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:17,120 what I'm trying to do that's that's not an issue I've always wanted 1825 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,639 to work Cooperative because it's not in 1826 01:21:18,639 --> 01:21:20,600 the building and it doesn't matter if 1827 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,120 it's here there or whatever it's all 1828 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,800 about how do we serve people and what 1829 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,280 I'm putting forward is simply a people's 1830 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,120 budget if you will to provide those 1831 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,280 services so they've outlined some of 1832 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,560 them already we can certainly enhance on 1833 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,229 that and grow on it and build on 1834 01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:39,960 it any other questions yes to there I 1835 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,600 just have a question as follow you 1836 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,880 mentioned a part of your Workforce to 1837 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,400 include the police and fire can you 1838 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,239 elaborate on that and what is there 1839 01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:49,520 involv 1840 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,840 orol Department yeah well specifically 1841 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,840 what I likey to do is work within our 1842 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,880 community and develop a pipeline if you 1843 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,790 will to get our 1844 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,320 young get our young men and young women 1845 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,560 from here in in our city area to 1846 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,199 consider Public Safety and Public Safety 1847 01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:09,000 don't necessarily mean just the police 1848 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,600 and fire but you know we got ogs we got 1849 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,040 L you know everything so so we talk 1850 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,840 about Public Safety we want to try to 1851 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,120 encourage and create that ecosystem 1852 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,960 within our community within our 1853 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,880 neighborhoods and we're working to 1854 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,920 develop that partnership starting you know going into the school district 1855 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,360 and getting them young and coming 1856 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,480 forward and and exploring and and 1857 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:31,639 sharing ideas and and exposing them to 1858 01:22:31,639 --> 01:22:34,600 the opportunities so again specifically 1859 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,679 about Public Safety police and fire we 1860 01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:40,040 we're trying to identify and enhance the 1861 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,800 efforts and why you want to consider 1862 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,320 that support and help them prepare you 1863 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,920 know for these exams and applying for 1864 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,679 these opportunities and also explor 1865 01:22:48,679 --> 01:22:50,400 Expos them to Opportunities by having 1866 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,560 them meet and talk to people in the 1867 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,600 field in other words talk to the fire 1868 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,000 talk to the police officer see what it's 1869 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,000 like where did they come from how did it 1870 01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,400 how do it relate why would this be an 1871 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,280 interesting you know an opportunity for 1872 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,719 us and and and I and I think uh we can 1873 01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:06,400 really develop a pipeline and giving 1874 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,480 them support and the resources necessary 1875 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:10,400 to make a difference because the school 1876 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,239 district obiously want to work with 1877 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:15,639 us we as a city want to do this so I 1878 01:23:15,639 --> 01:23:17,520 think it will help us if becomes a 1879 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,239 winwin scenario to what we're trying to 1880 01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:21,639 do so it's simply trying to build a 1881 01:23:21,639 --> 01:23:23,880 pipeline if you will to to have the 1882 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,560 bodies to to bring It Forward is this 1883 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,760 something new that you're going to be 1884 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,040 creating or is this something you 1885 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,040 already have we've been talking about it 1886 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,239 for years but uh getting it done you 1887 01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:36,199 know it's it's talking to one thing and 1888 01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:37,480 you know dealing with the resources and 1889 01:23:37,480 --> 01:23:39,600 the barri to make it happen but each and 1890 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,719 every day more and more pieces of the 1891 01:23:41,719 --> 01:23:44,639 puzzle come together you know so um it 1892 01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:46,199 took me two years to get a conversation 1893 01:23:46,199 --> 01:23:47,480 with the school district with the change 1894 01:23:47,480 --> 01:23:49,400 the administration and change of this 1895 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,679 and how do we make it work so now we 1896 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,880 have that piece of the puzzle down we 1897 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,320 have a desire desire from within the 1898 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,840 administration here to bring in people 1899 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,159 look at from our local ranks how do we 1900 01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:03,159 grow and develop that so every day more 1901 01:24:03,159 --> 01:24:04,920 and more of those pieces of the puzzle 1902 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,920 comes together so we work with you know 1903 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,280 other organizations like for example the 1904 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,280 one black men for example they have a 1905 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,880 tremendous amount of resources in there 1906 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,280 in terms of police and fire and other 1907 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,960 Public Safety uh Avenues so we can 1908 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,719 utilize that resource I work with the 1909 01:24:19,719 --> 01:24:22,000 community colleges we work with them on 1910 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,360 a regular basis to again help us develop 1911 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:30,960 this pipeline to uh to make it Power how do we how do we navigate 1912 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,440 this Mr FY yeah I I I CU hearing all of 1913 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,880 these things and there seems to be a lot 1914 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,040 of alignment a lot of information a lot 1915 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,159 of good information even as we're trying 1916 01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:42,639 to navigate this these are all kind of 1917 01:24:42,639 --> 01:24:44,520 good problems to have if you will great 1918 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,199 opportunities I would just um I would 1919 01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:49,639 suggest that um maybe based on some of 1920 01:24:49,639 --> 01:24:51,119 the information that you heard here 1921 01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:55,159 today um go ahead and revising um what 1922 01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,119 the initial proposal was um and 1923 01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:00,040 therefore I think that we can um make a 1924 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,920 more informed decision based on 1925 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,080 that and does this include the 1926 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,560 programming that you're currently doing 1927 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,199 on the um in the building on Broadway 1928 01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,040 yeah yeah we would include all that 1929 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,239 that's ongoing you know so these are 1930 01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:15,000 things that will obviously migrate over 1931 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,199 expand on whatever the case may be but 1932 01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:18,800 yeah absolutely because again we're not 1933 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,159 starting from Ground Zero we got program 1934 01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:23,000 that we've been doing and we continue to 1935 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,440 do on a Basin so those things will 1936 01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:28,360 continue and as these other 1937 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,960 opportunities come online or these other 1938 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,320 physical plant that will come online you 1939 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,600 know that's an easy uh you know 1940 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,960 migration 1941 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,760 thing those program that currently uh 1942 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,360 executing are those um funded under cdbg 1943 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:51,239 yes yes yes any other questions 1944 01:25:51,239 --> 01:25:52,920 comments all right well we'll look 1945 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,510 forward to the submission of this 1946 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,280 document do you have anything else you 1947 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:10,390 want to add no I think 1948 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,960 uh okay one other thing I would like to 1949 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,440 add though is it's sort of off topic 1950 01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:18,000 though but it it it continue to come up 1951 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,080 in terms of um Workforce Contracting 1952 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,679 opportunities and employment 1953 01:26:22,679 --> 01:26:24,560 opportunities within the uh Within the 1954 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,679 city and I and I do I am aware of 1955 01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:29,560 contractors feeling that they have not 1956 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,560 gotten opportunities and and I would 1957 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,920 just say that I agree with them 200% 1958 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,560 they've not gotten opportunities that 1959 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,280 they need and uh we work to deal with 1960 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,480 that on the daily basis but I will say 1961 01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,080 to you know to those contractors me 1962 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,719 personally I don't write contracts I 1963 01:26:47,719 --> 01:26:49,840 don't sign checks you know I can't hire 1964 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,119 anybody so I work with you in an effort 1965 01:26:53,119 --> 01:26:55,679 to bring for the opportunity so that you 1966 01:26:55,679 --> 01:26:57,639 can build the relationships and and make 1967 01:26:57,639 --> 01:26:59,880 those type of things happen now 1968 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,040 frustration is out there yes you see a 1969 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,199 lot of things going on yes but uh I 1970 01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:07,520 think one thing that we can certainly 1971 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,520 do is look at okay if we really want to 1972 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,639 seriously take a step and stop that we 1973 01:27:12,639 --> 01:27:15,119 can stop all the contractor don't make 1974 01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:16,760 the uh don't meet the objectives we can 1975 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,719 say okay we're not going to do it put 1976 01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:20,639 them back out the bit or whatever but 1977 01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:23,280 I'm but I'm just as frustrated as 1978 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,600 everybody else here you know to see you 1979 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,360 know the numbers it breaks my heart 1980 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,960 because I see the young man young lady 1981 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,440 out down the street trying to get a job 1982 01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:32,320 I see them putting in the application 1983 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,600 and I see they're not getting high so 1984 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,239 what can we do and this is what we're 1985 01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:37,840 trying to do to create these programming 1986 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,560 opportunity to at least we can move one 1987 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,719 of those little barriers out the way as 1988 01:27:41,719 --> 01:27:44,000 we continue to build and put these 1989 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,040 pieces together so that's 1990 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,600 what okay Mr far yeah so being that uh 1991 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,639 that kind of talk Talking that topic 1992 01:27:54,639 --> 01:27:56,360 um I know before you were here you 1993 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,800 talked about the possible uh possibility 1994 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,719 of I think de bundling um some of the 1995 01:28:01,719 --> 01:28:05,159 larger contracts to give uh more uh mwbe 1996 01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:08,119 contractors the opportunity um I would 1997 01:28:08,119 --> 01:28:10,159 you know again have to put more work on 1998 01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:11,639 you and I know working with the mayor's 1999 01:28:11,639 --> 01:28:12,760 office I know something that he's been 2000 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,080 paying close attention to trying to 2001 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,239 figure out like what can we do um as a 2002 01:28:19,239 --> 01:28:21,560 council because the frustration is one 2003 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,800 thing but what are the action steps that 2004 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,400 we can do um and then hopefully that 2005 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,080 you'll be able to present sort of a 2006 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,520 range of those action steps um because 2007 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,880 obviously our produ your responsibility 2008 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,480 to the city we also want to um make sure 2009 01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:36,960 that anyone who's getting contracts from 2010 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,280 the city recog recognizes that there's a 2011 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:44,719 value that we place um um on uh hiring 2012 01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:52,840 um mwbe and section 3 workers so maybe I think it would be helpful for um maybe 2013 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,199 producing a a range of actions that you 2014 01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:58,040 know that are within our purview that 2015 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,880 can encourage the contractors um and 2016 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,520 anyone that we're doing build business 2017 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,960 with to help us meet those goals cuz I I 2018 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,360 it to me feels like there's some 2019 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,520 daylight between um the current 2020 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,320 situation some frustration here but then 2021 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,119 really like what are the ABS what can we 2022 01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:16,280 do and if we're committed to that then 2023 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,560 you know I I cautiously optimistically 2024 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,639 speak on behalf of my colleagues that 2025 01:29:21,639 --> 01:29:24,520 were willing to um take some actions 2026 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:25,800 obviously with the guidance of of the 2027 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,560 mayor's office and part yeah yeah to 2028 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,159 that to that point we do have a good 2029 01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:34,040 plan in terms of participation and and 2030 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,800 goals and objectives and and it's very 2031 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,600 realistically and very well thought out 2032 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,920 I think one thing that will certainly 2033 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,480 help us with these hurdles if you will 2034 01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:45,560 because we're dealing with a a broad 2035 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,679 range of issues but you know but but 2036 01:29:48,679 --> 01:29:50,639 keeping it simple let's say that the bid 2037 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:52,400 comes in and we sit down at the table we 2038 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,080 open up the bid and there goal their 2039 01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,800 objective don't meet you know what it's 2040 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,000 supposed to be we should be able to just 2041 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,800 at that point just stop it right there 2042 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,119 and then put it to the side they they 2043 01:30:02,119 --> 01:30:03,639 didn't me the objective I mean we can 2044 01:30:03,639 --> 01:30:05,840 get you know that you know black and 2045 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,880 white about it you know and obviously we 2046 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,159 have to manage that against the need 2047 01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:11,480 that do we want to get the business want 2048 01:30:11,480 --> 01:30:14,360 see project done and all that now 2049 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:15,960 there's a lot of the education component 2050 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,440 that sort of goes on with that too you 2051 01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:21,520 know we also have to think about when we take this route do we have the 2052 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,280 capacity to fill all the things out 2053 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,960 there you know capacity is a big issue 2054 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,800 so let's say that the you know XYZ 2055 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,760 company says okay I'm going to give this 2056 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,239 to this contractor because we know that 2057 01:30:33,239 --> 01:30:35,159 we got to meet this goal and the 2058 01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:36,400 contract don't have a goal what are we 2059 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:37,639 going to do how are we going to support 2060 01:30:37,639 --> 01:30:38,800 this contractor we've been trying to 2061 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,080 keep real with these contracts and say I 2062 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:42,239 know you're in business I know you want 2063 01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:44,159 to do this but sometime you may not be 2064 01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:46,920 ready for this do you understand the 2065 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,560 insurance requirements do you understand 2066 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,920 the finance commitment do you understand 2067 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,360 that when you go ahead and start this 2068 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,520 job the city is Con not to cut you a 2069 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,239 check up front so you can buy material 2070 01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:57,560 do you understand you got to meet your 2071 01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,159 payroll every week you have those 2072 01:30:59,159 --> 01:31:01,719 resources and those are the realistic 2073 01:31:01,719 --> 01:31:04,400 things that we have to do so we can do 2074 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,239 it and and I'm I'm I'm right here ready 2075 01:31:07,239 --> 01:31:09,000 we had we had a plan we had a mechanism 2076 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,639 in place to you know make that happen 2077 01:31:11,639 --> 01:31:13,320 but I think we can also think about in 2078 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,800 terms of how do we break these things 2079 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,199 down into small pieces where we can 2080 01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:20,520 create opportuni for the Tyrone of the 2081 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,679 world for example Tyrone may not be able 2082 01:31:22,679 --> 01:31:24,320 to pave all the streets out but he can 2083 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,199 certainly install window painting or do 2084 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:29,600 something else you know how can we build 2085 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,280 the capacity of that guy so that he can 2086 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,320 at some point be at a level where he'll 2087 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,119 have the capacity to do you know other 2088 01:31:37,119 --> 01:31:39,119 type thing and hire and and and the 2089 01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:42,000 truth be told is these small firms are 2090 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,280 the ones that's hiring our local 2091 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,239 Workforce it's not the big contractors 2092 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:48,199 out there that's got the big contract $0 2093 01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:50,119 million when you look at the certified 2094 01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:52,199 payroll those people that own that 2095 01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:55,320 payroll is not in this 3051 12307 2096 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,080 they're not 2097 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,600 here okay so um you know we we've been 2098 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,000 trying to work up to that capacity but 2099 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,600 that's the conv we have to have we can 2100 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,960 certainly start at this T we open up the 2101 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,800 bid if the bid meet the objectives 2102 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,000 coming in you yes know we move to the 2103 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,840 side and keep it moving so that's that's 2104 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,639 one thing we can do and we can start 2105 01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:17,040 also having conversation with the bids 2106 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,960 and you know Contracting engineer and 2107 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,600 everybody else but that's where that's 2108 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,320 where it started it starts here you know 2109 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,920 with us as family um you know no one 2110 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,080 Department can can do it no one person 2111 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:34,080 can do it but the we we can certain 2112 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,000 this Mr Williams just as a point at 2113 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,960 Clarity based on the U comments you just 2114 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,760 made I want to be careful and ensuring 2115 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:42,920 that we don't conflate the two 2116 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,040 conversations that we're that we're 2117 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,560 having at the moment I think if we're 2118 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,239 identifying if your efforts as the 2119 01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:51,639 affirmative action officer uh how are 2120 01:32:51,639 --> 01:32:54,119 they yielding to some of the the end 2121 01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:56,040 users who kind of benefit from your 2122 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,000 actions I think from a council and I can 2123 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,159 only speak for myself tell us what more 2124 01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,360 we have to do or what more we can do to 2125 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,719 ensure that these individuals uh 2126 01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:06,760 continue to to to receive these 2127 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,360 resources these opportunities moving 2128 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,639 forward however if we are then looking 2129 01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:13,000 at the separate conversation of uh 2130 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,199 funding your empowerment proposal for me 2131 01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,400 myself personally you identifi a number 2132 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,119 of roles and responsibilities that I 2133 01:33:20,119 --> 01:33:22,880 imagine you currently uh uh manage 2134 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,320 solely it is wanting to understand what 2135 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,440 team or additional resources you need 2136 01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:29,239 because you Mr gner cannot be in 2137 01:33:29,239 --> 01:33:31,880 multiple places at once no you know 2138 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,360 that's the point we do need you know 2139 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,159 more resources so if that's not going to 2140 01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:36,800 be the case that Al has to be paired 2141 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,360 down and as I mentioned to several 2142 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,159 before you know I got put you know laser 2143 01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:43,600 focus on what the task is in front of me 2144 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,679 know so we can't do everything to 2145 01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:48,040 everybody and be effective but I do 2146 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,600 believe that in this Arena of creating 2147 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,239 an ecosystem or economic OPP OPP unities 2148 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:56,600 for everyone it's one thing to say okay 2149 01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,239 we have opportunities for you we have a 2150 01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:00,119 house for you or we have this for you 2151 01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:02,560 but if you don't have the the resources 2152 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,800 or the expertise or whatever to pull all 2153 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,159 that together then we we're doing your 2154 01:34:08,159 --> 01:34:10,639 disservice so we need to have that real 2155 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:12,520 conversation and say you do have to be 2156 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,040 prepared and those are some of the 2157 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,040 things that we do we have you know 2158 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,320 Workshop uh that we plan on on an 2159 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:19,920 ongoing basis where we have 2160 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,199 professionals come in the SBA the bank 2161 01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:24,239 and tell you this is what you got to 2162 01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:26,520 have to you know get the resources how 2163 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,560 do we make you bankable if you will and 2164 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,000 it's not just a matter going saying I 2165 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,800 got a contract or whatever you know to 2166 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,840 do it because ultimately it comes back 2167 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,239 to the same thing do you have the 2168 01:34:35,239 --> 01:34:36,639 resources which mean do you have the 2169 01:34:36,639 --> 01:34:40,080 money to get into this game and and and 2170 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,639 as a responsibility with a municipality 2171 01:34:42,639 --> 01:34:44,760 you have a full plate on your hands in 2172 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,719 terms of dealing with you know power of 2173 01:34:47,719 --> 01:34:50,199 it to make it happen so you know how do 2174 01:34:50,199 --> 01:34:52,639 we how do we do it 2175 01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:58,719 okay Mr F so just for clarity it's um it's looking 2176 01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:01,000 like what how I'm understanding this is 2177 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,040 the council it would 2178 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,199 be beneficial and we can expect you to 2179 01:35:06,199 --> 01:35:09,040 put together kind of a more revised um 2180 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,280 allocation of resources based on some of 2181 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,440 the things that you heard um tonight and 2182 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:15,239 maybe some more information that might 2183 01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:17,560 come between you to in between time and 2184 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,560 also um maybe uh because in the second 2185 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:21,880 issue there's a lot of difference that 2186 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,080 has to be given to you because you are 2187 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,000 the expert in in this area and what we 2188 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,320 would really need is almost a a list of 2189 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,400 graduated interventions if you will um 2190 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,719 that we can look at and say okay this is 2191 01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:36,199 something that we do have the capacity 2192 01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:39,119 to do that um will uh get us closer to 2193 01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:40,800 those goals and support our local 2194 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,679 economy and we can kind of scale up as 2195 01:35:42,679 --> 01:35:44,400 we go maybe all scaffold it a little bit 2196 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,040 so those two different documents um 2197 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,840 would be really uh vital for us moving 2198 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,600 forward yeah there there's a lot in that 2199 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,880 alphabet suit and it's true true that it 2200 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,280 you know there's a lot on both sides of 2201 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,360 the C but but it's it's a huge massive 2202 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,400 issue you know it's a big problem and um 2203 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,600 and and I think the the key here is your 2204 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,400 role here as a counsel with the mayor 2205 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:08,960 sitting right there you know 2206 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,280 understanding this and helping us guide 2207 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,159 the process that's really the key 2208 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:13,880 because from over here where I sit it's 2209 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,480 just a matter of you know you're very 2210 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:17,960 limited I'm limited in terms of what I 2211 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,760 can do you know by state and federal law 2212 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,119 Limited in terms of what I can do within 2213 01:36:21,119 --> 01:36:22,719 the comprise what I have to deal with 2214 01:36:22,719 --> 01:36:24,960 here but this this is it you guys tell 2215 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,080 me you know what you want to do and we 2216 01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,040 can um we can make it happen well you 2217 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,760 have to tell us what some of the possib 2218 01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,080 I can do thank you 2219 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,159 absolutely any other questions comments 2220 01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:37,280 from the 2221 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,679 council thank you Mr G we look forward 2222 01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:41,480 to those to that information do 2223 01:36:41,480 --> 01:36:47,990 appreciate it and thank you Miss 2224 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,000 car so we will now uh enter into our 2225 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,000 official 2226 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,560 agenda and start with our committee's 2227 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,920 finance thank you I would like to call 2228 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,560 the finance committee to order and the 2229 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,280 first item is to create a special 2230 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,119 assessment District on a portion of 2231 01:37:02,119 --> 01:37:04,679 narch College Street we had a public 2232 01:37:04,679 --> 01:37:08,280 hearing on 11th of March and I would ask 2233 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,040 Mr W to just give us a brief update on 2234 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:15,520 the project on on this project before we 2235 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,239 move forward in creating this um special 2236 01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:19,239 assessment 2237 01:37:19,239 --> 01:37:22,280 District so uh this project was created 2238 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:26,000 at the end of last year we are on to uh 2239 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,719 essentially 100% complete we're on the 2240 01:37:27,719 --> 01:37:29,159 punch list just to make sure the Grass 2241 01:37:29,159 --> 01:37:31,119 Grows and that the trees bloom in the 2242 01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:33,920 spring um after we completed the project 2243 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,480 engineering put together as built 2244 01:37:35,480 --> 01:37:36,840 drawings of all the properties 2245 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,960 calculated all of the additional costs 2246 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,880 associated with these projects this 2247 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,400 project was unique in that it was not 2248 01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,800 only a $55 per lar foot but there was 2249 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,639 also some brick work and some other um 2250 01:37:48,639 --> 01:37:51,080 lead walk items that were also added so 2251 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,080 we had to document and um classify all 2252 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,080 those once those were done and together 2253 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,560 it was sent to Lindsay uh in our 2254 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,880 receipts office so that we could get the 2255 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,760 numbers together for the assessment 2256 01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,400 rules and then we called for public 2257 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,679 hearing so we had the public hearing uh 2258 01:38:06,679 --> 01:38:08,760 the period is over and this is on the 2259 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,040 next step after this approval we will be 2260 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,040 sending out the assessments I think 2261 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,599 there are municipal vouchers to all the 2262 01:38:14,599 --> 01:38:17,320 residents on the street for the the 2263 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:18,920 billing of the 2264 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,430 work 2265 01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:24,679 questions 2266 01:38:24,679 --> 01:38:27,880 so you have you have a a an ordinance in 2267 01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:32,189 front of you so um any questions 2268 01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:34,199 regarding seeting down I would like to 2269 01:38:34,199 --> 01:38:35,960 ask a motion to create a special 2270 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,080 assessment district for a portion of Nar 2271 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:38,920 College 2272 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,560 Street um second all in favor I thank 2273 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,000 you and that the next item is the 2274 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,520 Central Park sideway Improvement project 2275 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,280 we had a public hearing on February 26th 2276 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:53,960 we held this for a couple weeks because 2277 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,760 there were some concern that was um sent 2278 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,560 to us and the engineering department Mr 2279 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,159 Walling addressed those and I think 2280 01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,480 every ready to move forward based on the 2281 01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:06,280 feedback you received from the 2282 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,920 residents and I ask Mr Walling to just 2283 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:16,149 us so we had 2284 01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:20,119 a we had a public meeting uh out outside 2285 01:39:20,119 --> 01:39:22,360 of council independent public meeting in 2286 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,080 City Hall um where the residents that 2287 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,199 did show uh unanimously agreed to keep 2288 01:39:28,199 --> 01:39:30,960 the Street's character as is um so that 2289 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,719 would mean that allowing no parking on 2290 01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:34,280 the street to keep the character of the 2291 01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,440 road I.E the Landscaping um 2292 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:40,000 intact the public hearing was called 2293 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,880 that was actually in council chambers 2294 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,679 just like we were doing now at the 2295 01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:46,080 public hearing um it was discussed that 2296 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,639 some wanted on street parking and were 2297 01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:51,119 against the idea of no on street parking 2298 01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:54,000 some even switched their vote voted for 2299 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:58,199 it to not um so to try in a way to come 2300 01:39:58,199 --> 01:40:00,520 up with a hybrid solution that was not 2301 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,000 presented at either meeting uh we sat 2302 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,800 down and we looked at an option which 2303 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,480 you have in front of you which is to 2304 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:10,760 create a hybrid where I select on street 2305 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,560 parking is constructed that does not 2306 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,480 interfere with 2307 01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:18,199 trees um so if you look on it wouldn't 2308 01:40:18,199 --> 01:40:19,520 be on the cover page it would be on the 2309 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,199 second and third Pages you'll see bump 2310 01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:24,080 out areas 2311 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,960 in between the alleys um these areas 2312 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,639 would affect um some some lawn but they 2313 01:40:30,639 --> 01:40:32,679 would not affect any mature trees they 2314 01:40:32,679 --> 01:40:35,960 are purposely constructed to not affect 2315 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,920 mature trees it also leaves the island 2316 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,679 as is and narrows the roadway so these 2317 01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:44,040 areas are all within the right of way 2318 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,080 and would be created um I do not know 2319 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,440 what residents in front of these 2320 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:51,599 particular areas opinion would be but 2321 01:40:51,599 --> 01:40:53,520 this was the Compromise that the engine 2322 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,520 and myself thought would be the least 2323 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,239 intrusive and get the best results would 2324 01:40:58,239 --> 01:41:00,679 be to have these I believe the amount of 2325 01:41:00,679 --> 01:41:02,440 parking spaces is nominal somewhere 2326 01:41:02,440 --> 01:41:04,440 between 15 and 20 depending on the size 2327 01:41:04,440 --> 01:41:07,080 of the vehicles but it does allow for 2328 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,400 parking in the areas where um you would 2329 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,719 have to go to the alley and the alley 2330 01:41:10,719 --> 01:41:12,480 really isn't the most appropriate spot 2331 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,360 for a visitor or a delivery to come for 2332 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,639 parking so all of the bump house would 2333 01:41:17,639 --> 01:41:19,679 be on the Alley side on yes they would 2334 01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:21,880 only be on the Alley side because that's 2335 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,920 where we have flat space 2336 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,920 and we would be able to uh if we went 2337 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,400 with a bump out on the other side we 2338 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,119 start getting in the hills and it would 2339 01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:30,920 be uh much more 2340 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,520 invasive so this is not a full product 2341 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,880 this is just an idea to allow to have 2342 01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,440 some on street parking uh specifically I 2343 01:41:38,440 --> 01:41:39,800 think a couple people who ask for on 2344 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,480 street parking are right in this area so 2345 01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:43,719 they would be able to have on street 2346 01:41:43,719 --> 01:41:46,239 parking Mr M yeah I think most of most 2347 01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:48,159 of the the people who are asking parking 2348 01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:50,320 was on the side where the alley is 2349 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,360 because if you were to put it on the 2350 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,320 other side people have driveways um 2351 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:54,920 that's how side here and you'll see that 2352 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,119 it's only between the alleys we do not 2353 01:41:57,119 --> 01:41:58,880 continue it because once you get past 2354 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,320 the alley towards the Rose Garden that 2355 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:02,760 side then does pick up and have their 2356 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,080 own driveways oh okay so we're we're 2357 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:06,679 talking about 2358 01:42:06,679 --> 01:42:09,520 19 give or take give or take we don't we 2359 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,199 don't mark them so if you have a lot of 2360 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,440 small cars get more than 19 but that's 2361 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:14,719 one of the reasons that you you don't 2362 01:42:14,719 --> 01:42:16,480 anymore Mark what they call them T's and 2363 01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:18,920 L's we got rid of that because uh 2364 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,080 vehicles are all different sizes um so 2365 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:22,239 you want to make sure that you can fit 2366 01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:24,159 as many vehicles in 2367 01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:26,320 all right open up for questions on 2368 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,560 this go ahead please I just to make a 2369 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,480 comment I think this definitely is uh 2370 01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:33,199 reflect over the work of your office so 2371 01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:35,239 definitely I I I appreciate it as a 2372 01:42:35,239 --> 01:42:36,560 member of the council you take the 2373 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,520 additional time to evaluate other 2374 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,880 options and also kind of re-evaluate how 2375 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,920 to meet some of the concerns of 2376 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,199 individuals that may or may not have 2377 01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:47,040 brought their attentions to the meeting 2378 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,639 but also kind of changed based on other 2379 01:42:48,639 --> 01:42:50,719 conversations that they have uh but 2380 01:42:50,719 --> 01:42:52,760 definitely excited um to to see this 2381 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,390 performance so thank 2382 01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,679 you go ahead please just quickly so 2383 01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:01,800 definitely again kudos for being 2384 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,760 responsive to uh the needs of the 2385 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,560 citizens of the city I just a question 2386 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,199 um is it like kind of a ballpark on how 2387 01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:12,599 this cost look different than the 2388 01:43:12,599 --> 01:43:14,840 original scope that we talked about no I 2389 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,000 mean the Scopes that we talked about 2390 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,719 there were so inclusive me we had one 2391 01:43:17,719 --> 01:43:19,360 that was around 900,000 all the way up 2392 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,239 to 1.3 I know there was a conversation 2393 01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:23,719 about really is it only 300,000 I don't 2394 01:43:23,719 --> 01:43:25,599 think this will have a a really drastic 2395 01:43:25,599 --> 01:43:27,520 effect on on anything we're going to be 2396 01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,360 narrowing a little bit the roadway this 2397 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,440 still has the roadway going from 15 to 2398 01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,560 13 we really feel that we'd like to 2399 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,520 leave it at 13 a typical Lane is 11 so 2400 01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,599 you're still 2 ft larger than the 2401 01:43:38,599 --> 01:43:41,760 typical 15 it's a big Lane and the thing 2402 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,119 that we're going to focus on now if we 2403 01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:44,960 go we really want to focus on the 2404 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,719 turnaround areas make sure they're 2405 01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:49,280 adequately size for the turnaround 2406 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,199 so also we talked about um I know there 2407 01:43:52,199 --> 01:43:54,239 was some discussion around like maybe 2408 01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:56,000 like some striping and things I know 2409 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,840 narrowing it down obviously for to deter 2410 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,719 you know people from speeding as as do 2411 01:44:01,719 --> 01:44:03,719 the striping would that still even be 2412 01:44:03,719 --> 01:44:05,320 possible even NE what we would do is we 2413 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,599 would just strike one white line uh to 2414 01:44:07,599 --> 01:44:09,400 delineate where the where the parking 2415 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,320 areas are and when you hit that it would 2416 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,320 make it feel more narrow we are still 2417 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,560 also looking at replacing the lighting 2418 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,440 on the corridor with new LED lighting 2419 01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:18,639 but the lighting would be essentially in 2420 01:44:18,639 --> 01:44:22,040 the same location thank 2421 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,560 you thank you Chris I I like that whole 2422 01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,000 idea right trying to help make everyone 2423 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:31,119 happy um what kind of footage would it 2424 01:44:31,119 --> 01:44:33,320 take from the residents on that alley 2425 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,080 side would it take some of their Green 2426 01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,760 Space away in between their those bump 2427 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,000 outs with the bump outs if we do that no 2428 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,400 I I don't you talking about would it 2429 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,679 take the Island area away not the island 2430 01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:50,800 lawn their lawn that's in yes yeah I 2431 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,040 think you can see there will be a little 2432 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:53,599 impact to some of the lawn yeah and you 2433 01:44:53,599 --> 01:44:56,040 can see you can see on the second page 2434 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:57,599 on the top of it know there's a couple 2435 01:44:57,599 --> 01:44:59,840 of bushes that we would like to relocate 2436 01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:00,880 we're really going to try to see if we 2437 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,960 can actually replant them back so there 2438 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,040 is not I mean you're probably going if 2439 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:06,719 I'm looking at that sidewalks 5 ft so 2440 01:45:06,719 --> 01:45:09,080 you're 5 ft back from the back of the 2441 01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,679 sidewalk 5 ft to get in so there is an 2442 01:45:11,679 --> 01:45:13,360 impact so that's where you know not 2443 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,520 everyone is going to be you know pleased 2444 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,239 but we are just trying to keep some of 2445 01:45:17,239 --> 01:45:18,560 the the better treat if somebody wanted 2446 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,679 to say that there was a dead tree and 2447 01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:20,639 they wanted to move it and wanted 2448 01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:23,320 parking we could always extend it but 2449 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,199 you know after our first meeting the 2450 01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:27,960 number one takeaway was preserve the 2451 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,679 character and integrity of the street VI 2452 01:45:30,679 --> 01:45:32,920 the landscaping and it's the whole 2453 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,719 street is in tree line with very mature 2454 01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:37,880 trees so we couldn't fit in these 2455 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,080 Pockets 2456 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,400 question I guess my next question is so 2457 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,080 what happens now does it go back to 2458 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:47,400 that's an excellent 2459 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,719 question I if if I'm directed to go 2460 01:45:49,719 --> 01:45:51,679 forward with option D then I'm going to 2461 01:45:51,679 --> 01:45:54,000 go forward with option D and that's what 2462 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,760 uh so once we have I have a go from the 2463 01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,920 council we'll start putting this into in 2464 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,360 action but I don't know about the next 2465 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,840 public 2466 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,800 step um um Madam president Mr chairman I 2467 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,119 mean it's really up to the council what 2468 01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:09,800 you want to do at this point based on 2469 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,239 that the revisions that have been 2470 01:46:11,239 --> 01:46:13,599 prevent presented to you if you feel 2471 01:46:13,599 --> 01:46:15,040 that they sufficiently address the 2472 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,920 concerns that were made as a public 2473 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:22,960 hearing um you can AFF because the the document has addressed those 2474 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,159 concerns if you feel that you feel that 2475 01:46:25,159 --> 01:46:29,360 this is a little bit more different or a 2476 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,239 little bit different from the original 2477 01:46:31,239 --> 01:46:34,280 plan then you can call for an additional 2478 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:37,119 public hearing on the the revised plan 2479 01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:39,239 and that would just put off the the uh 2480 01:46:39,239 --> 01:46:40,800 the ordinance but it would also put off 2481 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,560 the project for you know 2482 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,480 for probably four four weeks I'm 2483 01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:49,719 thinking because of the U cycle if you 2484 01:46:49,719 --> 01:46:50,960 had a public 2485 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,760 heing you could uh put it off for a 2486 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,199 couple of weeks and maybe at that next 2487 01:46:56,199 --> 01:46:58,000 council meeting at the public hearing 2488 01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,360 after you hear it all at that point you 2489 01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:04,080 may decide to uh do final adoption at 2490 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,480 that point so you could put it off for 2491 01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:09,239 two weeks if you wish and just have the 2492 01:47:09,239 --> 01:47:14,159 hearing and that the same evening you feel that sufficient everything is 2493 01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:16,880 sufficiently addressed then you can 2494 01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,560 adopt the ordinance at that evening and 2495 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,960 then it moves forward things forward the 2496 01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,360 a bit more but it's it's really up to 2497 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,880 you if you feel that this is a uh within 2498 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,599 the general scope where you want to give 2499 01:47:29,599 --> 01:47:32,480 more public uh input that's that's all 2500 01:47:32,480 --> 01:47:35,199 up to you but you could do it like I 2501 01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:36,639 said you if you want to have a public 2502 01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:39,440 hearing two weeks and then that evening 2503 01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:42,159 you could decide to move it if you feel 2504 01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:45,000 that everything's addressed yeah to to 2505 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,520 address that I mean we had the public 2506 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,440 hearing and many concern that was raised 2507 01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:50,119 and the letter the emails that was 2508 01:47:50,119 --> 01:47:52,560 submitted um one of the most important 2509 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,920 part of will be addressing the parking 2510 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,520 which was loud and clear so I think 2511 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,199 that's the only change here and I think 2512 01:47:58,199 --> 01:48:01,400 uh majority is in in agreement in terms 2513 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,199 of providing parking wheel on that very 2514 01:48:04,199 --> 01:48:06,520 same side so I I don't think it's a 2515 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,800 major change to that it's change based 2516 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,000 and what was recommended to the 2517 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,679 engineering department to us for this 2518 01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:15,480 project to move 2519 01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:18,560 forward go ahead please yeah um I agree 2520 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,159 with you that because I actually 2521 01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:21,520 attended a meeting where they said this 2522 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,679 is part of it um 2523 01:48:23,679 --> 01:48:25,119 so we've made the changes however I 2524 01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:26,599 think it's also important that we inform 2525 01:48:26,599 --> 01:48:28,400 people that this is a change as opposed 2526 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,800 to just moving ahead with it so to do 2527 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,960 what has been um suggested by Mr O'Brien 2528 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,520 the two weeks as opposed to this 2529 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,840 extended public heing process to do the 2530 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,920 two weeks um put the information out 2531 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,440 there that this is what the change is 2532 01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:42,679 going to be and again I think it's going 2533 01:48:42,679 --> 01:48:44,719 to make some people happy but I'm always 2534 01:48:44,719 --> 01:48:46,800 a proponent of informing people and 2535 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,080 making people know and being inclusive 2536 01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,400 rather than when the bulldozers show up 2537 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,920 so I I'm I'm in favor of waiting the two 2538 01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,840 weeks and approving it that night and 2539 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,480 then moving forward this information is 2540 01:48:57,480 --> 01:48:58,840 actually 2541 01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,560 out sharing between the res the home 2542 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,440 owners there you've already started put 2543 01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:06,000 yes I I shared it up I did not yes all 2544 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,239 right so I think we so they have access 2545 01:49:08,239 --> 01:49:10,440 to this right so I think we still go 2546 01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:12,360 with that the the the hearing the public 2547 01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,520 hearing two weeks and then move forward 2548 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,400 as opposed to not you me that we did 2549 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,800 make some changes so just want to um on 2550 01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,239 the end up on the right side of this two 2551 01:49:23,239 --> 01:49:25,719 more weeks is it going to be we can 2552 01:49:25,719 --> 01:49:27,679 start you know getting some of the other 2553 01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:31,280 things together come up really need that 2554 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,880 it's up up to you it's up to the council 2555 01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,400 it's what you feel I mean I it's up to 2556 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,400 the members go ahead I would have to to 2557 01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,440 agree with um Miss Porterfield I think 2558 01:49:42,440 --> 01:49:44,239 it was highlighted that not everyone is 2559 01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:47,040 going to agree um but very much these 2560 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,320 are uh changes that these individuals 2561 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,920 Within These households where some Point 2562 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,080 uh they're going to have that bump in 2563 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:57,000 that is going to be a change they're 2564 01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,119 going to have to live with for as long 2565 01:49:58,119 --> 01:50:02,560 as their residents in that that that location uh so although uh I'm 2566 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,800 confident that these take into 2567 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,440 consideration a lot of the concerns that 2568 01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:08,920 were uh uh given to the council I I 2569 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,599 again think it is important for us to be 2570 01:50:10,599 --> 01:50:13,880 transparent and um and making sure we 2571 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,040 have the opportunity for people to to 2572 01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,199 voice their opinion should they have 2573 01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:19,400 them um but again if there's not going 2574 01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,440 to be a significant disruption in the 2575 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:23,480 project which you're saying we won't 2576 01:50:23,480 --> 01:50:25,080 I think it it is something that we 2577 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,750 should take advantage 2578 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,119 of and I think that's what Mr Walling 2579 01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:32,639 address there is not a significant 2580 01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:34,360 impact on this project by putting this 2581 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:37,199 parking there on that side and majority 2582 01:50:37,199 --> 01:50:39,159 of the resident wanted that parking on 2583 01:50:39,159 --> 01:50:41,159 that side based on the competition we'll 2584 01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:45,750 be having back and 2585 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,599 forth any goad please but I would say 2586 01:50:48,599 --> 01:50:49,800 what is your confidence in the 2587 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:51,599 distribution means for getting people 2588 01:50:51,599 --> 01:50:52,960 that information cuz I would let's say 2589 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,400 it is even lacking one I would tell you 2590 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:56,960 if I didn't hear that and there was an 2591 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,440 individual who came before the council 2592 01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:00,000 and said I wasn't aware of the 2593 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,800 information I think definitely making 2594 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,280 sure there's opportunities for everyone 2595 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,040 to ensure the information is is received 2596 01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,840 in a timely manner and then again I just 2597 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,480 want to point out the two weeks is not 2598 01:51:09,480 --> 01:51:12,199 at a cost to the 2599 01:51:12,199 --> 01:51:15,520 project any other discussion go ahead 2600 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,159 please U I'm just and I'm willing to do 2601 01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:19,280 what we did before is to actually unless 2602 01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:20,520 you've already done it to the entire 2603 01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,079 Street I know it took us like maybe an 2604 01:51:22,079 --> 01:51:24,480 hour when we did it collectively to walk 2605 01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:27,000 again with this new plan and you know 2606 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,800 just give it to everyone so they could 2607 01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,440 have it in front of 2608 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:33,840 them I I just like always to air on the 2609 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:38,360 side of safety caution any other 2610 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,480 discussion s we then hold this because 2611 01:51:41,480 --> 01:51:43,599 we it doesn't seem we can move power so 2612 01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:46,119 we'll hold this for two weeks don't we 2613 01:51:46,119 --> 01:51:48,480 have to um sorry do we have to call you 2614 01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:51,000 can have a resolution for public hearing 2615 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:55,390 final consideration at the same time 2616 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:56,920 okay 2617 01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,560 have two motions or one a resolution 2618 01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,639 calling for a public hearing on the 2619 01:52:02,639 --> 01:52:06,239 concept D for this Central Parkway 2620 01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:08,960 sidewalk inclement 2621 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,920 program 2622 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:13,840 y thank 2623 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,880 you second all in favor I and then final 2624 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:19,719 consideration the 2625 01:52:19,719 --> 01:52:23,360 ordinance a motion to consider and 2626 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,760 that's that will be final consideration 2627 01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,360 when you put the do the uh the agenda 2628 01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,480 together for that evening it will be 2629 01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:33,199 mark his final consideration unless you 2630 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:34,760 hear something at that public hearing 2631 01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,400 then you can always pull it but the 2632 01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,480 ordinance that's already been posted 2633 01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:45,639 would be voted on that same night okay any other business for finance 2634 01:52:45,639 --> 01:52:47,000 excuse me I just want to be clear do we 2635 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,280 need another motion for that one or no 2636 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,440 Mr because cons the ordinance is already 2637 01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:53,239 there 2638 01:52:53,239 --> 01:52:55,000 any other business over Finance I just 2639 01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,639 want to thank Mr wall for the work and 2640 01:52:56,639 --> 01:52:59,679 for L for I know this has been a long 2641 01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:01,040 process I was looking at my documents 2642 01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:01,800 from 2643 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,639 2021 so I'm glad to say in 2024 that 2644 01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:06,199 project is actually moving forward so 2645 01:53:06,199 --> 01:53:08,560 thank you for all your work on this and 2646 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,599 I hope all the residents are 2647 01:53:10,599 --> 01:53:12,440 happy on the 2648 01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:15,520 same any other business for finance 2649 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,360 motion to ad so move second all in favor 2650 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,599 I I thank you I'd like to call the word 2651 01:53:20,599 --> 01:53:22,159 of the Public Safety Committee we have 2652 01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:24,079 one item on the agenda tonight that is a 2653 01:53:24,079 --> 01:53:26,239 review of the Amendments of the city 2654 01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:29,400 code section uh Chapter 93 section 6 2655 01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,079 entitled civilian police review board to 2656 01:53:31,079 --> 01:53:32,440 modify the manner of appointing 2657 01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:34,760 vacancies to the civilian police review 2658 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,719 board uh we had a public hearing uh last 2659 01:53:37,719 --> 01:53:39,520 week and i' would like to turn over to 2660 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,520 Mr Brian M uh Mr chairman if there's no 2661 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,520 amendments to or or markups uh to the 2662 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,880 proposed legislation we can move that on 2663 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:51,440 for final consideration next Monday 2664 01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,760 night were there any other comments 2665 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,599 questions from the mayor the one thing I 2666 01:53:58,599 --> 01:54:01,880 noticed originally said the connect 2667 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,360 chamber connected chamber doesn't exist 2668 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:08,719 anymore ised into the capital uh region 2669 01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:11,560 Chamber so it's just to change 2670 01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,400 that um one word is in terms of a 2671 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:18,000 recommending group okay since it's in 2672 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,280 keeping with the it's a housekeeping 2673 01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,480 type Amendment mhm um you don't need 2674 01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:26,119 another public Hearing in on it because 2675 01:54:26,119 --> 01:54:28,360 it's just reflecting the change of that 2676 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,520 particular organization but if there's 2677 01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,000 no change into the proposed text as far 2678 01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:37,199 as the appointment is concerned then uh 2679 01:54:37,199 --> 01:54:39,280 we can go forward and I'll make 2680 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,960 a Amendment to the to the proposed 2681 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,440 ordinance correcting that one U 2682 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:47,840 oranization 2683 01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,159 name any other questions or 2684 01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:52,880 comments uh hearing know hearing none 2685 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,440 may I have a motion uh to proceed with 2686 01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,520 the amendment from the 2687 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,760 mayor second all in favor are there any 2688 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,639 other items toall Public Safety feing 2689 01:55:03,639 --> 01:55:06,760 none may have motion for Jour 2690 01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,960 second all in favor 2691 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,320 say I'd like to call order City 2692 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,239 development and planning we have 13 2693 01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:17,639 items on the agenda uh the first one is 2694 01:55:17,639 --> 01:55:21,320 to follow up ARA Miss 2695 01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:29,229 Carver 2696 01:55:29,239 --> 01:55:33,870 hello again 2697 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:37,800 hell good evening again since we last 2698 01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,920 met the Coco house contract has been 2699 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,360 signed by the mayor and it's a waiting 2700 01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,840 signature from Coco house 2701 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,599 administrators bcni Hamilton Hill 2702 01:55:48,599 --> 01:55:51,239 contract is still pending the mayor's 2703 01:55:51,239 --> 01:55:54,119 review 2704 01:55:54,119 --> 01:55:57,520 uh the Electric City Co-Op um as they 2705 01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,480 said in their presentations they're 2706 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:01,840 still missing site and some of the 2707 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,840 documents to prove the leverage funding 2708 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,400 so that's 2709 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,040 pending 2710 01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,079 the additional updates that I have for 2711 01:56:10,079 --> 01:56:13,520 you are just up for discussion the 2712 01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,840 YWCA um this connected Little League 2713 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,599 which Chris Wallen is going to talk 2714 01:56:18,599 --> 01:56:21,880 about and I also noted on the documents 2715 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,119 the Community Foundation um weed the 2716 01:56:25,119 --> 01:56:27,199 organizational chart and itemized Budget 2717 01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:29,880 on 311 heard the request of councel and 2718 01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,960 the mayor um on 314 we requested an 2719 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,400 updated budget to include The Fringe 2720 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,079 benefit so we're still awaiting those 2721 01:56:37,079 --> 01:56:38,199 supporting 2722 01:56:38,199 --> 01:56:40,400 documents is there any other groups out 2723 01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,760 El there are no other groups everybody 2724 01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,079 else is in 2725 01:56:45,079 --> 01:56:47,199 contract I 2726 01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:51,920 know missing lights the tunnel um so be 2727 01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:53,679 see 2728 01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:57,520 mayie so um well YWCA is already on 2729 01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,400 there so did you want Mr W to speak to 2730 01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,480 the Oregon Avenue I I'll do the YMCA 2731 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:06,239 first so the YCA YW by themselves 2732 01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:19,069 separate okay s okay M 2733 01:57:19,079 --> 01:57:22,280 yeah pools Little League tennis golf 2734 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,320 what do we got it's like a country club 2735 01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,560 here so why uh literally this is what 2736 01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:29,800 we're talking about I got an email 2737 01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,159 ordered to me the email was succinct it 2738 01:57:33,159 --> 01:57:35,239 had a list of priorities with 2739 01:57:35,239 --> 01:57:37,920 anticipated budgets and I assigned uh 2740 01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:39,639 one of our Engineers to start getting 2741 01:57:39,639 --> 01:57:41,520 pricing for it so we're going to attack 2742 01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,920 it just as a peace meal um fencing contractor roof roofing 2743 01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,920 contractor lighting electrician uh I 2744 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,239 think it'll just be too difficult to do 2745 01:57:51,239 --> 01:57:53,320 one giant bid with all these things in 2746 01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,000 it because the costs are too small um so 2747 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,360 it'll be very similar to what was done 2748 01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,199 on Michigan Avenue which was a wall we 2749 01:58:00,199 --> 01:58:02,440 went with someone who built walls so 2750 01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,040 we're going to get uh the fencing will 2751 01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:05,880 be a little complicated just because it 2752 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,040 require a bid uh over 2753 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,800 $35,000 so we are going to put together 2754 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,000 some um drawings and put out a fencing 2755 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,760 bid for that uh and then the other three 2756 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,480 will be able to get pricing for because 2757 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,639 they're all under $35,000 so then we'll 2758 01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:22,520 start getting close from that that from 2759 01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,119 some of our local vendors that we use I 2760 01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:27,639 can work with Ron Gardner on that to see 2761 01:58:27,639 --> 01:58:29,599 uh what contractors he would recommend 2762 01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:31,560 so that we could try to get it so the 2763 01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,199 but the list was pretty detailed which 2764 01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:35,159 is what we needed and it all had cost 2765 01:58:35,159 --> 01:58:37,000 estimates and it was signed by the board 2766 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,840 so that is pretty much exactly what we 2767 01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,880 needed to go forward so how much money 2768 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,360 are we working with well right now we're 2769 01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:45,800 working with 2770 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,599 $175,000 uh which is enough to complete 2771 01:58:48,599 --> 01:58:51,320 what they have the only project that 2772 01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,679 could be ass slope is they want to 2773 01:58:53,679 --> 01:58:56,000 reinstate the Back Field which is a 2774 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,560 lower field that was abandoned several 2775 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:01,719 years ago reinstating that um it could 2776 01:59:01,719 --> 01:59:03,599 just be as simple as brush hogging 2777 01:59:03,599 --> 01:59:05,239 mowing getting it down cleaning it out 2778 01:59:05,239 --> 01:59:06,719 but it also could be more involved 2779 01:59:06,719 --> 01:59:08,239 depending on how we get it so we're 2780 01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:10,199 going to focus on the existing fields 2781 01:59:10,199 --> 01:59:12,760 and getting them up uh the scoreboard 2782 01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,520 the roofs and uh and then and go from 2783 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,719 there so we'll do what we can do for the 2784 01:59:17,719 --> 01:59:20,440 175 and then look at weting the back 2785 01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,520 field and what the cost would be and 2786 01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:23,960 Paul had been talking with them to see 2787 01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:25,520 what our inhouse abilities were with 2788 01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,920 that but that's I'm going to try to do 2789 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,520 the other ones that are just to get 2790 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:30,679 something going cuz I know that they 2791 01:59:30,679 --> 01:59:32,920 feel like they've been slided so we want 2792 01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,159 to get that moving some time for uh for 2793 01:59:35,159 --> 01:59:37,239 the season that's the other complicated 2794 01:59:37,239 --> 01:59:38,840 is where we have a hole in the season 2795 01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,360 because baseball season is starting um 2796 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,320 it might be uh you know we might not be 2797 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:44,800 able to tackle it in the spring but 2798 01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:45,920 sometimes in the summer there is a 2799 01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,880 little bit of a gap in August usually uh 2800 01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:50,199 when you everybody stops playing 2801 01:59:50,199 --> 01:59:51,719 baseball so that might be the window 2802 01:59:51,719 --> 01:59:52,560 that we 2803 01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,520 for questions comments 2804 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,119 concerns any no all right well thank you 2805 01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:00,520 very much I know that people are going 2806 02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:05,870 to be happy 2807 02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:09,840 yep any questions for me so I don't know 2808 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:16,880 why sorry city council I'm you better stay here with me um so 2809 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,639 that was the the followup on the ARA 2810 02:00:18,639 --> 02:00:20,400 nobody no questions on the Coco house 2811 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,800 bcni is in the mayor um we heard about 2812 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,560 the little Le um that's it for the 2813 02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,159 follow up and you talk about jury and 2814 02:00:27,159 --> 02:00:28,520 we're waiting for those documents so we 2815 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:30,400 have all that anybody got questions 2816 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,920 about that part of it okay cuz now we're 2817 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,440 going to move on to item number two the 2818 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,239 YWCA Harbor house so I'm bringing this 2819 02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:41,000 um as a revisit the last meeting there 2820 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,199 was not a decision made on lessening The 2821 02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:45,960 Leverage amount requested so I'm asking 2822 02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,679 city council to consider that tonight 2823 02:00:48,679 --> 02:00:51,480 they ask they roughly have a $7 million 2824 02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:54,400 mat $20 million um match and they're 2825 02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:56,920 asking it to be moved to 7 2826 02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,360 million so as everyone recalls at the 2827 02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,159 last meeting they did presentation I 2828 02:01:01,159 --> 02:01:02,800 think we were all in agreement that we 2829 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,199 would move ahead with that but um it we 2830 02:01:05,199 --> 02:01:07,440 didn't bring it into committee to to Dev 2831 02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:08,880 vote it through so that's what we're 2832 02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,159 doing at this point to bring it back to 2833 02:01:11,159 --> 02:01:12,320 the committee so that we can vote it 2834 02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,280 through to lessen their leverage 2835 02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:19,910 amount any 2836 02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:23,760 questions I'll second it I'll favor I I 2837 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,840 thank you thank you Miss far thank 2838 02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:30,239 you uh the next one is the to award 2839 02:01:30,239 --> 02:01:32,800 bidden contract for the 2024 2840 02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:36,159 HB Paul had a leave so I saw him 2841 02:01:36,159 --> 02:01:37,400 disappearing so I was like I didn't know 2842 02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,880 it was going to pitch it council 2843 02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:42,800 president mayor city council uh in 2844 02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:44,599 keeping with the city's purchasing 2845 02:01:44,599 --> 02:01:46,840 policy this the city disc connect went 2846 02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:50,400 out the bid for HVAC companies to uh 2847 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,000 provide uh maintenance uh all the city 2848 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,639 uh buildings all the police stations the 2849 02:01:55,639 --> 02:01:58,199 fire stations uh Bureau service City 2850 02:01:58,199 --> 02:02:00,119 Hall and all service stations this is 2851 02:02:00,119 --> 02:02:02,599 kind of like getting a a retainer for uh 2852 02:02:02,599 --> 02:02:04,119 so that we're on top of the list so we 2853 02:02:04,119 --> 02:02:08,199 have a call that come in U uh come in uh 2854 02:02:08,199 --> 02:02:11,400 and uh fix whatever problem we have um 2855 02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,239 there was uh I believe five different 2856 02:02:13,239 --> 02:02:16,239 bids and uh this was all put up when I 2857 02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:18,560 by our purchasing agent and uh you can 2858 02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,440 see our uh uh lowest bid was uh eords 2859 02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:25,000 uh with the the the different uh hourly 2860 02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,079 rates uh for you know daily 8 to four 2861 02:02:28,079 --> 02:02:30,960 nights and the weekends uh looks like 2862 02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:32,480 we're going to be a pretty bunch of good 2863 02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:34,599 savings it's an option it's a one-year 2864 02:02:34,599 --> 02:02:37,000 contract with a option for two years if 2865 02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,800 they do well um e the company had they' 2866 02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,239 done other jobs for the city especially 2867 02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:43,960 some of the big jobs like the wastewater 2868 02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:47,280 treatment plant uh uh North First Street 2869 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,920 Pump Station and other things so we know 2870 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,920 that they're a repal company uh so uh 2871 02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,639 this is a a money saving project and 2872 02:02:53,639 --> 02:02:56,719 we're hoping uh you guys pass this for 2873 02:02:56,719 --> 02:03:00,079 us any questions 2874 02:03:00,079 --> 02:03:03,840 concerns and motion so Mo second all in 2875 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:06,159 favor thank you very much thank you Mr 2876 02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:07,520 fer 2877 02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:11,400 Ferrari um so next we have um a 2878 02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:13,560 ceremonial resolution recognizing syia 2879 02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,639 Jon for her service to excuse me I'm 2880 02:03:15,639 --> 02:03:17,880 sorry next item is appointment to the uh 2881 02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:19,280 Board of assessment 2882 02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:22,480 review um I think all us may have gotten 2883 02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,280 the email that there was first of all 2884 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:30,320 there was a a person that left the move from the city and uh so therefore 2885 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,079 was no longer a member of the board of 2886 02:03:32,079 --> 02:03:36,199 assessment review and uh 2887 02:03:36,199 --> 02:03:38,920 then I there's an individual who has put 2888 02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:40,880 who I'm Who I'm putting forward this um 2889 02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:42,679 with this person actually would put 2890 02:03:42,679 --> 02:03:44,520 their name forward when the last person 2891 02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,159 actually the person who just left um was 2892 02:03:47,159 --> 02:03:49,719 putting the name both names were up so 2893 02:03:49,719 --> 02:03:52,239 um we know that we're going 2894 02:03:52,239 --> 02:03:55,320 in May going to um begin to start doing 2895 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,360 the U review of the property of 2896 02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,079 Assessments and so it's important that 2897 02:04:00,079 --> 02:04:02,679 we have uh someone in that seat so I'm 2898 02:04:02,679 --> 02:04:05,480 recommending Renee Bradley to uh be 2899 02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,440 appointed as a member of the board of 2900 02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,950 assessment 2901 02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:15,320 review any questions comments or 2902 02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:19,040 concerns yes she had uh she had a most 2903 02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:24,830 definitely a most impressive uh resume 2904 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:28,520 um my question is so I personally didn't 2905 02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,360 know that that the spot was was open 2906 02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,159 should we is there time to let other 2907 02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:36,079 individuals submit 2908 02:04:36,079 --> 02:04:39,960 names well um when we sent out the um 2909 02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:41,599 thing on the ethics he came back and 2910 02:04:41,599 --> 02:04:43,280 said so everyone got that email that 2911 02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:45,040 said I'm no longer this person I'm no 2912 02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:46,719 longer on the board so everyone did 2913 02:04:46,719 --> 02:04:50,119 receive that yes we did so what I'm 2914 02:04:50,119 --> 02:04:53,000 saying is 2915 02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:54,760 we knew there was opening we the time is 2916 02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:57,760 of the essence right and again I'm you 2917 02:04:57,760 --> 02:04:59,280 know it's open for discussion but this 2918 02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:00,880 is an indidual that wanted to be on when 2919 02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,920 the previous person um left do you have 2920 02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,559 an objection to this individual I do not 2921 02:05:05,559 --> 02:05:08,119 oh just asking if there's time to 2922 02:05:08,119 --> 02:05:11,559 suggest other individuals at this time I 2923 02:05:11,559 --> 02:05:13,079 would say with the time constraint we 2924 02:05:13,079 --> 02:05:14,440 should have move forward because whoever 2925 02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,199 gets chosen has to also be 2926 02:05:16,199 --> 02:05:18,040 trained do 2927 02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,639 that coming 2928 02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:23,639 up 2929 02:05:23,639 --> 02:05:26,400 any other discussion or 2930 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,880 concerns yes just just to clarify this 2931 02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,960 for the fiveyear term that's not this is 2932 02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:34,880 not it was an expired term yes it was it 2933 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:36,840 would be the full fiveyear term yes 2934 02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:40,480 because he he he didn't expire his term 2935 02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:42,960 expired and then then he also moved we 2936 02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:44,280 got something saying they were going to 2937 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,320 reappoint him but then when he answered 2938 02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,280 his ethics um email he's like can't 2939 02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:51,920 reappoint me I don't live here okay I'll 2940 02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:55,990 be five okay yes thank 2941 02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,599 you in that case I'll ask for a motion 2942 02:05:58,599 --> 02:06:02,350 so I'll second all in 2943 02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:05,480 favor okay the next one is a ceremony 2944 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,679 resolution for Sylvia jimon for her 2945 02:06:07,679 --> 02:06:11,639 service to the city of SKC um as you may 2946 02:06:11,639 --> 02:06:13,040 you probably all got the invitation that 2947 02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:16,280 Mr Jon is no longer um is going to be 2948 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:17,960 retired her last day is like I don't 2949 02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:19,840 know towards the end of the month 28th 2950 02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,159 there there's a party for her 2951 02:06:22,159 --> 02:06:25,199 and uh so as we kind of learned from Mr 2952 02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:27,520 Griffin that generally when things 2953 02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:29,559 happen there isn't art resolution so 2954 02:06:29,559 --> 02:06:31,079 we're going to we know better now we're 2955 02:06:31,079 --> 02:06:33,000 going to do better so we'd like to do 2956 02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:34,440 resolution for Miss jimon for her 2957 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:38,040 service to the city of skak today any 2958 02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:41,159 questions and motion Mo I'll second all 2959 02:06:41,159 --> 02:06:45,239 in favor I thank you um the next one is 2960 02:06:45,239 --> 02:06:48,159 um ceremony resolution for Pearl suer 2961 02:06:48,159 --> 02:06:51,280 Hunter um some may know some may not uh 2962 02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:53,079 woman does a lot of community service to 2963 02:06:53,079 --> 02:06:55,400 the community she worked at sium she 2964 02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:59,440 currently has a clothing closet so um I 2965 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:05,239 um wanted to do this just simply she's um observing a milestone birthday 2966 02:07:05,239 --> 02:07:06,800 and um I think that it's always 2967 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:08,440 important when we you know call people 2968 02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:09,760 out for the work that they do to the 2969 02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:11,400 community and I encourage other council 2970 02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,880 members to um to do this as well um it's 2971 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,400 often that we people get recognized as 2972 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,320 people that everybody knows this is 2973 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,040 somebody that many people know but maybe 2974 02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:22,880 not everyone know so I was thinking 2975 02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,040 about something and we'll do something 2976 02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:25,520 as side about doing something called 2977 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:26,880 heral of the community kind of 2978 02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:28,800 recognition every so often but that's 2979 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,159 just me and um how I just like to 2980 02:07:31,159 --> 02:07:33,239 support people so uh but at this time 2981 02:07:33,239 --> 02:07:34,840 I'd like to put forth a resolution for 2982 02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:36,199 Miss tuer 2983 02:07:36,199 --> 02:07:39,599 Hunter any questions or concerns or or 2984 02:07:39,599 --> 02:07:43,679 questions about uh her that I can 2985 02:07:43,679 --> 02:07:45,840 answer all right she all around the 2986 02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,440 person that's my answer and St a motion 2987 02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:52,119 so both second all in favor hi um and 2988 02:07:52,119 --> 02:07:54,719 then next one is a ceremony resolution 2989 02:07:54,719 --> 02:07:57,360 recognizing Holly pagwa the Hindu Spring 2990 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,880 Festival Mr muu Baron yeah thank you um 2991 02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:02,920 once again we're asking I'm requesting 2992 02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:05,280 CR to recognize um the Hindu Spring 2993 02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:07,079 Festival we have done this over the last 2994 02:08:07,079 --> 02:08:09,559 several years and we're here once again 2995 02:08:09,559 --> 02:08:11,719 I'm asking for this 2996 02:08:11,719 --> 02:08:14,159 recognition right so Mr M are they going 2997 02:08:14,159 --> 02:08:16,920 to come and dance and do anything for us 2998 02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:20,159 I will get back to you we had the iris 2999 02:08:20,159 --> 02:08:24,470 dances so you know just just 3000 02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:28,360 I'm not in that capacity to say 3001 02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:31,400 that yes I just wanted to welcome Mr M 3002 02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,520 and if he wanted to dance for us you can 3003 02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,639 definitely we extend that invitation to 3004 02:08:35,639 --> 02:08:37,040 you as well we would like to have our 3005 02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:39,870 city 3006 02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:44,520 come I'll motion so second all in 3007 02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:48,199 favor all right we do 3008 02:08:48,199 --> 02:08:50,480 um I'm kind of trying to like stay with 3009 02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:51,800 the ARP stuff so I kind kind of want to 3010 02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:54,400 bring in if we're going to move forward 3011 02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:55,880 on any of the discussion that we took 3012 02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,040 place so I'd like to move that right 3013 02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:00,040 here we um heard from the electricity 3014 02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,800 Co-op and we heard from Harver and we 3015 02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,239 know with the Empowerment Center there's 3016 02:09:04,239 --> 02:09:05,320 more information that's going to be 3017 02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:07,400 needed before anything can be done so 3018 02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:10,360 this point in time I'd like to discuss 3019 02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:13,559 the two uh presentations that we heard 3020 02:09:13,559 --> 02:09:16,599 and what their requests are and what are 3021 02:09:16,599 --> 02:09:18,199 um what we want to do with that we don't 3022 02:09:18,199 --> 02:09:19,840 want to make the same have the same 3023 02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,639 thing happen with that happened with the 3024 02:09:21,639 --> 02:09:23,440 YW where it slipped through the crack so 3025 02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,800 at this point in time like to um have 3026 02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,360 those things develop discussed on the 3027 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,159 city development and planning and 3028 02:09:29,159 --> 02:09:30,280 whether or not we're going to move 3029 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:33,199 forward with the asks from those 3030 02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:35,599 groups so 3031 02:09:35,599 --> 02:09:39,119 discussion yes Mr T at this point uh in 3032 02:09:39,119 --> 02:09:42,159 time hearing everything this evening I'm 3033 02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:45,440 not prepared to act on on anything at 3034 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,719 this point um I'd like more time to 3035 02:09:47,719 --> 02:09:49,480 digest what I heard I took all kinds of 3036 02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:52,760 notes so um I'm really not ready tonight 3037 02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,589 to speak on 3038 02:09:55,599 --> 02:09:58,199 that so 3039 02:09:58,199 --> 02:10:02,679 um I'm sorry for E either one or either 3040 02:10:02,679 --> 02:10:04,520 one absolutely 3041 02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:07,719 yeah any 3042 02:10:07,719 --> 02:10:11,760 other's go Mr Williams well essentially 3043 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:13,159 what that does for the Electric City 3044 02:10:13,159 --> 02:10:14,599 Co-Op is that is giving them an 3045 02:10:14,599 --> 02:10:16,320 extension like although we're not 3046 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:17,880 calling it that by delaying the 3047 02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:20,000 conversation however for the Carver 3048 02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,119 Community um Center it is is at the 3049 02:10:22,119 --> 02:10:23,520 expense of their efforts because they're 3050 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:25,639 not able to proceed forward without a 3051 02:10:25,639 --> 02:10:26,920 determination from the council that's 3052 02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,440 what I understood is that correct I 3053 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:32,280 understood that as well so um let's take 3054 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:33,679 them one at a time so let's start with 3055 02:10:33,679 --> 02:10:37,280 the Electric City Food Co-op so you're saying that you're not you don't 3056 02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:38,840 feel like you have enough information to 3057 02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:41,239 ask for to I have a lot of information 3058 02:10:41,239 --> 02:10:43,840 that they provided this evening but um 3059 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,159 there's you know I just listen to what 3060 02:10:47,159 --> 02:10:48,840 the other council members have to say 3061 02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:51,599 this evening regarding so there asking 3062 02:10:51,599 --> 02:10:56,440 for a six-month extension and you're not comfortable um at giving well 3063 02:10:56,440 --> 02:11:00,840 they're also asking to um their their um 3064 02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:04,920 lower their match lower their match um 3065 02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,040 uh they were asking for 6 months he was 3066 02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:09,840 willing to go to 5 months um you were 3067 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,599 thinking more 3 months I think so again 3068 02:11:12,599 --> 02:11:16,000 there's just a lot that I'm not ready 3069 02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:19,199 to to discuss at to discuss at this 3070 02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:22,159 point any other C is your is your hand 3071 02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:25,159 up is your pen moving around so I I'll 3072 02:11:25,159 --> 02:11:27,840 take the opportunity to say well I as 3073 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,159 far as Electric City Co-Op I def I can 3074 02:11:30,159 --> 02:11:31,440 understand some of the concerns that 3075 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,239 Council m detor is bringing forth I 3076 02:11:33,239 --> 02:11:36,079 think that based on you know um I I 3077 02:11:36,079 --> 02:11:38,639 think what they're asking for is pretty 3078 02:11:38,639 --> 02:11:41,960 much just an extension um and that 3079 02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:44,559 extension still would provide us um time 3080 02:11:44,559 --> 02:11:46,480 if we had the real funds as well as the 3081 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,320 fact that um in in lowering their match 3082 02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:52,400 which I I think um you know know we just 3083 02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:55,320 did with the with the why um because we 3084 02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,920 understand that that was just was was a 3085 02:11:57,920 --> 02:11:59,880 bit drastic so I think that would just I 3086 02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:01,800 would personally I'm I'm prepared to 3087 02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,719 support um them and and both their ask 3088 02:12:04,719 --> 02:12:06,320 tonight personally but I understand if 3089 02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:12,189 any council members have any other 3090 02:12:12,199 --> 02:12:14,880 reservations sorry I'm 3091 02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,559 sorry Coop I mean we had the opportunity 3092 02:12:17,559 --> 02:12:20,040 to listen from their membership we also 3093 02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:21,400 had the opportunity to listen from from 3094 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:23,880 Metro flights and they kind of like the 3095 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,520 timeline in terms of how much more time 3096 02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:27,440 they 3097 02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:30,800 needed um to move this forward to get 3098 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,079 the lease agreement in place I think 3099 02:12:33,079 --> 02:12:34,480 they at that 3100 02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,719 point where they need some more time 3101 02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:40,079 just to get that people working and 3102 02:12:40,079 --> 02:12:43,159 executed I mean I have listen to both 3103 02:12:43,159 --> 02:12:48,599 sides and I am willing to support a 4mth 3104 02:12:48,599 --> 02:12:50,760 extension okay based on information I 3105 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:54,079 received some Metroplex um commitment 3106 02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:56,440 that this is going to happen within you 3107 02:12:56,440 --> 02:12:59,320 know 3 to 4 months 3108 02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:02,760 or so I'm willing to support that an 3109 02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,639 extension of four months four months 3110 02:13:05,639 --> 02:13:09,000 okay um I I I would support that as well 3111 02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:10,400 it's it's not the six months they asked 3112 02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,520 for but as you heard me say to them that 3113 02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,360 we don't have a lot of time and if this 3114 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,280 can't happen then we would just have to 3115 02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:17,559 we' have to bring that money back and 3116 02:13:17,559 --> 02:13:20,159 there's Mr Ferrari looking like waiting 3117 02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:23,800 um for any money that's coming back 3118 02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:28,639 water so uh I I also am willing to um to 3119 02:13:28,639 --> 02:13:30,719 give them the the 4month 3120 02:13:30,719 --> 02:13:34,320 extension and um the other part of it is 3121 02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:37,079 uh lowering the match but we' have to 3122 02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:38,239 make sure that we're comfortable with 3123 02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:39,280 that as 3124 02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:42,159 well Mr Williams I would say my only 3125 02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:44,360 response to that is that they were very 3126 02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:46,280 clear in that that they would were 3127 02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:48,280 asking for the five months and then 3128 02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:51,960 worrying whether that was um enough time 3129 02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:54,880 to proceed with the uh site plans or 3130 02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,159 site discussions I I would like to say 3131 02:13:57,159 --> 02:13:58,719 like I I don't take lightly having 3132 02:13:58,719 --> 02:14:01,159 represented from Metroplex here and 3133 02:14:01,159 --> 02:14:02,599 seemed like they're very confident in 3134 02:14:02,599 --> 02:14:04,719 where the project was and then also 3135 02:14:04,719 --> 02:14:05,719 understanding of the timelines that 3136 02:14:05,719 --> 02:14:07,800 we're against so I very much appreciated 3137 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:10,000 the the risk and and benefit timet taes 3138 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:12,719 that were both there but I was not in 3139 02:14:12,719 --> 02:14:15,320 favor of the 6 months I think and and 3140 02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,440 what seems to be the common theme but to 3141 02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:19,599 me it definitely seemed apparent that 5 3142 02:14:19,599 --> 02:14:22,679 months was was the the minimum 3143 02:14:22,679 --> 02:14:26,360 time just to be clear U Mr CC did say 3144 02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:30,910 four did he yes he 3145 02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:33,000 did is there something you want to add 3146 02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:34,840 to 3147 02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:37,639 this just don't 3148 02:14:37,639 --> 02:14:40,719 drag not familiar with the project 3149 02:14:40,719 --> 02:14:44,639 question um so you're yes Mr Toro um 3150 02:14:44,639 --> 02:14:48,520 Eric Johnson did ask for five I know yes 3151 02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:52,440 just and yes and Mr CC said four so do 3152 02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:53,679 we meet in the middle and make it four 3153 02:14:53,679 --> 02:14:55,800 and a half I guess it becomes a question 3154 02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:57,599 no I'm sticking with four four months 3155 02:14:57,599 --> 02:15:00,280 okay we got four over there you have a 3156 02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:01,760 question yeah I just I mean I would just 3157 02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:05,760 think if I don't know what the value of 3158 02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,920 is of splitting splitting it there I 3159 02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:12,239 mean if we can if we can if 6 months as 3160 02:15:12,239 --> 02:15:13,480 our timeline is approaching if the 3161 02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:15,920 council feels that that's too much time 3162 02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:18,920 then I think that the right thing to do 3163 02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:21,559 would be to at least Grant the 5 months 3164 02:15:21,559 --> 02:15:23,119 um and I think that they were saying 5 3165 02:15:23,119 --> 02:15:24,719 months with the understanding that 3166 02:15:24,719 --> 02:15:29,400 they're going to try to get it done but before that 5 month time period so I 3167 02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:31,239 would just caution us not to kind of 3168 02:15:31,239 --> 02:15:33,360 split teirs and position them in a place 3169 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:34,920 that they can't get it done in the time 3170 02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:36,320 and then they have to come back again so 3171 02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:37,199 I think 3172 02:15:37,199 --> 02:15:40,159 that right and part being that there's 3173 02:15:40,159 --> 02:15:42,119 no opportunity for them to do that I 3174 02:15:42,119 --> 02:15:43,960 would say that it would kind of compel 3175 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:46,119 us a little more to go to 5 months 3176 02:15:46,119 --> 02:15:50,400 so just think about that well it's that 3177 02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:53,599 that's where so Mr Mr M who is this is 3178 02:15:53,599 --> 02:15:55,679 the committee it's in has said four 3179 02:15:55,679 --> 02:15:57,840 months is is as close as he can get to 3180 02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:01,360 six am I correct that is correct 3181 02:16:01,360 --> 02:16:04,360 yes 3182 02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:06,840 so then we have no choice because it's 3183 02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,040 six months or 3184 02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:10,239 it's because uh excuse me it's four 3185 02:16:10,239 --> 02:16:12,520 months or um because we don't have a 3186 02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:14,599 third person here so we'd have to both 3187 02:16:14,599 --> 02:16:16,119 agree on the four 3188 02:16:16,119 --> 02:16:19,679 months so are you willing to make that 3189 02:16:19,679 --> 02:16:21,599 motion and unless there's more 3190 02:16:21,599 --> 02:16:22,880 discussion around this we I would 3191 02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:26,119 entertain the four months yes disc in to 3192 02:16:26,119 --> 02:16:29,520 move that yes Madam president it's a 3193 02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,880 four-month extension and then there's a 3194 02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:35,240 are you also putting in where the match 3195 02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,359 is as well at as far as that same motion 3196 02:16:38,359 --> 02:16:41,000 so it's would be part of all the same 3197 02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:44,960 resolution yes yes yes yes and that and 3198 02:16:44,960 --> 02:16:46,960 that number is uh what's the number that 3199 02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:49,840 you're you're looking at I thought 3200 02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:51,679 I 3201 02:16:51,679 --> 02:16:54,719 I'm sorry 3 milon 3 million I think was 3202 02:16:54,719 --> 02:17:00,870 it was it three 1.8 1.8 3203 02:17:00,880 --> 02:17:05,000 okay no 1.8 is what I have 3204 02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:08,880 here count 1 Point 1.8 so lowering the 3205 02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:10,920 match to 3206 02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:15,120 from um what was the match from Miss car 3207 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:16,359 is 3208 02:17:16,359 --> 02:17:20,559 gone it was 5.7 okay okay so it it's 5.7 3209 02:17:20,559 --> 02:17:24,240 to 1.8 with a 4mon extension that's the 3210 02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:26,120 resolution 3211 02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:28,479 that well they saying they were getting 3212 02:17:28,479 --> 02:17:31,719 3 million from the county so 3213 02:17:31,719 --> 02:17:34,000 it's that money would have to be there 3214 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:37,120 also and then the Gap would they would 3215 02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:38,880 work with the developer be roughly the 3216 02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:43,080 1.8 million right 3217 02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:46,399 yes so is that the motion yes moving 3218 02:17:46,399 --> 02:17:49,840 forward all right I'll second it all 3219 02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,280 those in favor I 3220 02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:55,359 okay uh we'll move on to the 3221 02:17:55,359 --> 02:18:01,000 Carver Cooperative Community Center um 3222 02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:05,030 so I heard the 3223 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:08,240 presentation and so there ask was to 3224 02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:11,160 have ownership of the building return um 3225 02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:13,679 to continue with the 3226 02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:17,319 1.25 um million in funding and 3227 02:18:17,319 --> 02:18:18,840 partnership from the 3228 02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:24,190 city and I open that up for 3229 02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:30,000 discussion Mr M yeah um suggesting that 3230 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:33,559 we hold off on making any allocation at 3231 02:18:33,559 --> 02:18:35,719 this point in time because first of all 3232 02:18:35,719 --> 02:18:37,760 they're not a register entity at this 3233 02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:38,880 point in time so I don't know how we can 3234 02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:41,880 do business with them okay and we have 3235 02:18:41,880 --> 02:18:43,800 to transfer the property back and I'm 3236 02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:46,319 not sure where we are in terms of the 3237 02:18:46,319 --> 02:18:49,880 original reort CLA back to from the mar 3238 02:18:49,880 --> 02:18:51,319 Craig to the city 3239 02:18:51,319 --> 02:18:52,599 and then we have to transfer that 3240 02:18:52,599 --> 02:18:54,880 building back to this legal entity which 3241 02:18:54,880 --> 02:18:56,800 is not created so I think we just need 3242 02:18:56,800 --> 02:18:58,439 to give them time to make that happen in 3243 02:18:58,439 --> 02:19:00,519 the next couple of weeks they promise 3244 02:19:00,519 --> 02:19:02,599 and then we can rase that at a point in 3245 02:19:02,599 --> 02:19:05,519 time okay CU I don't think we should 3246 02:19:05,519 --> 02:19:07,280 move forward legally at this point in 3247 02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:09,040 time because there is no legal entity 3248 02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:13,000 that makes sense Mr barash could you just tell who we are in terms 3249 02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:15,519 of the building um it's been deposited 3250 02:19:15,519 --> 02:19:18,559 for recording um I can take a look into 3251 02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:21,639 tomorrow if we've received 3252 02:19:21,639 --> 02:19:26,559 okay all right thank you all right so I agree with that we do need to make 3253 02:19:26,559 --> 02:19:28,359 sure it's a legal entity um we kind of 3254 02:19:28,359 --> 02:19:30,200 ran into that problem down at the uh 3255 02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:32,960 Stockade so we don't want to have that 3256 02:19:32,960 --> 02:19:35,880 again oh thought you raising your hand 3257 02:19:35,880 --> 02:19:38,160 see don't move don't move your hands yes 3258 02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:42,280 not okay um so so we would just wait and 3259 02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:44,519 ask them to come back in two weeks or we 3260 02:19:44,519 --> 02:19:46,040 can we can actually have Miss Carver 3261 02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:47,120 reach out when they're when they've 3262 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:49,160 gotten their legal 3263 02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,680 entity decided been covered and all of 3264 02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:53,319 that in place they can come back and let 3265 02:19:53,319 --> 02:19:54,760 us know that yeah that's what I was 3266 02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:56,920 recommending okay once that is in place 3267 02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:59,160 they can just let us know and we can 3268 02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:01,319 have that back on the agenda get 3269 02:20:01,319 --> 02:20:04,560 information to Mr T yes 3270 02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:07,280 mayor in the other aspect they're still 3271 02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:10,920 working on the numbers that were bid a 3272 02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:14,399 while ago M so think we have to approach 3273 02:20:14,399 --> 02:20:17,600 that with some level of caution that's 3274 02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:19,439 going to probably have to go back out to 3275 02:20:19,439 --> 02:20:21,520 bid uh 3276 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:25,439 in worth the million two from the city's 3277 02:20:25,439 --> 02:20:28,240 perspective the numbers are really a 3278 02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:29,880 little over 3 3279 02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:31,399 million 3280 02:20:31,399 --> 02:20:33,920 uh 3281 02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:37,240 and I'm skeptical of what their Alli we 3282 02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:38,960 take the million to and go in and just 3283 02:20:38,960 --> 02:20:40,080 do kind 3284 02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:42,840 of half the project you want to have all 3285 02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,120 the money lined up so in fact we're 3286 02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:48,080 going to get a building and a program 3287 02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:49,920 delivery of service that's really going 3288 02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:51,640 to 3289 02:20:51,640 --> 02:20:54,240 actually exist and be able to go forward 3290 02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,120 and not have a building that's just 3291 02:20:56,120 --> 02:21:00,120 halfway through a rehab 3292 02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:02,240 project so we're going to ask them I'll 3293 02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,520 come back and one thing that you did 3294 02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:06,040 mention I don't know how we can help and 3295 02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:07,800 hope that we can help that the Craig 3296 02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:09,399 main connection is going to be right 3297 02:21:09,399 --> 02:21:10,880 there this building is right on Craig 3298 02:21:10,880 --> 02:21:13,960 Street and so how do we leverage any 3299 02:21:13,960 --> 02:21:16,240 type of funding to assist with that 3300 02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:17,800 building since it's right on there and 3301 02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:21,359 part of the Craig main project if that's 3302 02:21:21,359 --> 02:21:24,080 a possibility and I'm not saying that's 3303 02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:25,640 a question that needs to be answered 3304 02:21:25,640 --> 02:21:27,560 right here right now but I think it's a 3305 02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:28,800 it's something that we should really 3306 02:21:28,800 --> 02:21:31,200 consider in terms of um it looks like 3307 02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:32,520 we're in the proc we're in the place 3308 02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:34,439 where we are assisting organizations to 3309 02:21:34,439 --> 02:21:35,520 make sure that they can do what they 3310 02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:37,720 need to do and so if there's an 3311 02:21:37,720 --> 02:21:39,560 opportunity with the Craig M project 3312 02:21:39,560 --> 02:21:41,319 being right there that we could somehow 3313 02:21:41,319 --> 02:21:43,359 assist to make this project move forward 3314 02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:45,000 as was mentioned it's on the historic 3315 02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:47,040 register now so it's not like we just 3316 02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:50,000 can run in there and tear it down um so 3317 02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:52,520 you know those those concerns we should 3318 02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:56,000 we have to keep in mind as well so yes I 3319 02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:57,880 think some of the concerns with the the 3320 02:21:57,880 --> 02:22:00,520 previous um project managers was just 3321 02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:02,800 wanting to have more structure and I 3322 02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:05,040 think that was very well presented today 3323 02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:07,160 uh I think in the the one month that 3324 02:22:07,160 --> 02:22:10,160 they've been able to prepare uh I was 3325 02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,359 truly I valued what work they were able 3326 02:22:12,359 --> 02:22:15,080 to do and then also the understanding of 3327 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:16,520 they weren't starting from zero they 3328 02:22:16,520 --> 02:22:17,800 were continuing on the work that was 3329 02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:19,800 already established and so part of my 3330 02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:22,680 hope is that taking this new uh uh 3331 02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:25,000 repackaged energy and then presenting 3332 02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:26,680 that to some local Partners I think that 3333 02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:28,640 puts them in a very different place uh 3334 02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:30,319 but very much to the mayor's point I 3335 02:22:30,319 --> 02:22:32,080 would hate for us to have fund a project 3336 02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,399 and then we have a bigger issue come 3337 02:22:34,399 --> 02:22:36,720 winter with uh now we are committed how 3338 02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:39,200 do we finish this um but I I definitely 3339 02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:42,640 am very optimistic um but uh we need to 3340 02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:44,240 make sure that there is an appropriate 3341 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:45,520 plan in place to make sure they have the 3342 02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:48,040 full funding 3343 02:22:48,040 --> 02:22:50,680 so all right so we're going to just wait 3344 02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:54,280 on that we have Miss Carver yes okay and 3345 02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:55,319 I think we all agree with the 3346 02:22:55,319 --> 02:22:56,800 Empowerment Center we just need a lot 3347 02:22:56,800 --> 02:23:01,800 more information in terms of what the ask is what the plan is and all of 3348 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:03,950 that from our affirmative action 3349 02:23:03,950 --> 02:23:05,319 [Music] 3350 02:23:05,319 --> 02:23:09,640 officer all right so um then let's move 3351 02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:12,800 on to item number eight uh 1675 watt 3352 02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:15,840 Street utility East Miss 3353 02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:22,680 BR um May about b car this is a lot uh 3354 02:23:22,680 --> 02:23:25,279 is everybody familiar with where it is 3355 02:23:25,279 --> 02:23:28,399 from the super power the corner of wat 3356 02:23:28,399 --> 02:23:32,000 Dwayne uh that was originally a 3357 02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:35,399 pond uh that was filled in it's part of 3358 02:23:35,399 --> 02:23:38,040 uh some more tension Pond that was built 3359 02:23:38,040 --> 02:23:43,000 in the woodlon reserve M uh there's a uh 3360 02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:44,960 cul that runs through there I can't 3361 02:23:44,960 --> 02:23:47,240 remember it's 6 or 8 ft in diameter 3362 02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:51,120 really big pipe and so it's the current 3363 02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:53,680 is lot is owned by the Industrial 3364 02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:56,000 Development agency they have a uh 3365 02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:58,800 proposal for the site and this would 3366 02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,520 give an easement across the site uh 3367 02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:06,160 delineating the uh drainage pipe that 3368 02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,040 goes 3369 02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:14,309 underground David if you have 3370 02:24:14,319 --> 02:24:17,680 anyse thank you I'm the Ida today Scott 3371 02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,000 was the was Metroplex everything the 3372 02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:21,920 mayor just to um keep going with what 3373 02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:23,800 the mayor was saying well the Ida's own 3374 02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:26,640 this since the 9s uh it was made into a 3375 02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:28,840 parking lot uh it hasn't been used since 3376 02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,840 I've been here over 10 plus years uh the 3377 02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:34,439 city uh when they reconfigured the the 3378 02:24:34,439 --> 02:24:37,040 roadway and the pond they didn't uh 3379 02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:38,319 provide the city an easement for the 3380 02:24:38,319 --> 02:24:40,120 infrastructure so we've owned it with 3381 02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:42,240 your infrastructure going through it uh 3382 02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:44,840 we have uh a company that's looking to a 3383 02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,080 storage facility there it's a proposal 3384 02:24:47,080 --> 02:24:49,160 that fits well with movable storage 3385 02:24:49,160 --> 02:24:52,560 units on the uh area of the easement uh 3386 02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:55,040 they're interested in um in developing 3387 02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:56,640 the site get it back from the tax RS for 3388 02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:57,800 the first time we want to make sure 3389 02:24:57,800 --> 02:24:59,319 we're preserving the city's 3390 02:24:59,319 --> 02:25:01,319 infrastructure uh so that you have your 3391 02:25:01,319 --> 02:25:04,439 rights to enter it um maintain it uh 3392 02:25:04,439 --> 02:25:06,960 make improvements um it's pretty it's 3393 02:25:06,960 --> 02:25:08,960 something that we had the Ida attorneys 3394 02:25:08,960 --> 02:25:10,920 uh work on uh to be favorable towards 3395 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:12,720 the city so that you preserve all your 3396 02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:15,840 rights that you need to access the 3397 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:17,640 infrastructur all the documents are 3398 02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:20,319 there before you are there any questions 3399 02:25:20,319 --> 02:25:21,240 comments 3400 02:25:21,240 --> 02:25:25,200 concerns no I'm I'm move this all right 3401 02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:27,720 I'll second all those in favor thank you 3402 02:25:27,720 --> 02:25:32,830 very much thank you 3403 02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:35,880 mayor um oh there is one other one item 3404 02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:38,240 that um it's came it's uh separate in 3405 02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:39,960 your package to do this before we go 3406 02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:43,520 into executive sessions um it's 3407 02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:45,720 regarding the additions to the um 3408 02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:47,000 Community benefits agreement that is 3409 02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:48,760 submitted by the city council we 3410 02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,399 discussed it a couple years ago 3411 02:25:51,399 --> 02:25:53,520 a couple of weeks ago it feels like 3412 02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:56,760 years a couple of weeks ago and um in 3413 02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:58,680 speaking with the mayor um he says that 3414 02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:00,600 what we would have to do in order to we 3415 02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:02,399 at the last meeting uh the mayor said 3416 02:26:02,399 --> 02:26:04,040 he's open to having these additional 3417 02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:07,359 discussions with um West yard properties 3418 02:26:07,359 --> 02:26:10,840 and other parties involved and so um in 3419 02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:12,160 speaking with him today he said that in 3420 02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:14,200 order to even to get to the point where 3421 02:26:14,200 --> 02:26:16,399 have a discussion but what the city 3422 02:26:16,399 --> 02:26:18,399 council would need to do is actually 3423 02:26:18,399 --> 02:26:20,920 move forward um a resolution that we 3424 02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,680 wanted to make these U amendments to the 3425 02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:25,960 um Community benefits agreement that 3426 02:26:25,960 --> 02:26:28,920 would be um that that was was entered 3427 02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:31,960 into this doesn't mean that exactly what 3428 02:26:31,960 --> 02:26:33,960 is here is what would happen but these 3429 02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:35,399 are the items that would be brought 3430 02:26:35,399 --> 02:26:38,990 forth for 3431 02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:43,269 discussion any questions about 3432 02:26:43,279 --> 02:26:45,479 that so what I'd be looking for this 3433 02:26:45,479 --> 02:26:48,680 evening is a resolution to actually um 3434 02:26:48,680 --> 02:26:49,920 to say these are the things that we 3435 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:53,200 would want to discuss in terms of um 3436 02:26:53,200 --> 02:26:56,040 amending the community benefits 3437 02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:58,439 agreement so we're saying that we need 3438 02:26:58,439 --> 02:27:01,120 to have a resolution in place before the 3439 02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:03,439 conversation takes place this this 3440 02:27:03,439 --> 02:27:08,670 becomes the formal position of the 3441 02:27:08,680 --> 02:27:12,359 council so right I guess what I'm acting 3442 02:27:12,359 --> 02:27:13,840 I'm asking around the order of 3443 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:15,760 operations in other words there can 3444 02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:19,080 still be a conversation yes okay but 3445 02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:20,880 this becomes what 3446 02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:23,120 we've had uh different people say 3447 02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:25,000 different things so it's at this point 3448 02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:28,160 I'm ter it's informal conversation this 3449 02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:30,120 becomes a formal position of the council 3450 02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:31,760 by passing The 3451 02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:35,880 Resolution oh okay all 3452 02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:38,399 right uh 3453 02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:42,520 so I mean I I I would suggest that 3454 02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:47,279 there's um maybe a meeting held um and 3455 02:27:47,279 --> 02:27:49,240 the conversation happens prior to that 3456 02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:50,760 cuzz I think that that conver ation 3457 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:56,439 should really inform some of uh what we're requesting and that would be 3458 02:27:56,439 --> 02:27:58,840 my thought but but but the mayor is 3459 02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:01,160 clearly stating is that conversation 3460 02:28:01,160 --> 02:28:03,560 will not take place until we formally 3461 02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:05,680 say this is what we'd like to have 3462 02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:07,640 considered is I I asked the same 3463 02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:11,000 question and am I stating it prop the 3464 02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:13,359 way in which you're saying so that 3465 02:28:13,359 --> 02:28:15,240 before we do that we have to actually 3466 02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:16,439 say these are the things that we would 3467 02:28:16,439 --> 02:28:18,319 like you to consider in the form of 3468 02:28:18,319 --> 02:28:21,040 resolution is what the mayor is saying 3469 02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:23,200 not the conversation and then not that 3470 02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:25,160 way what the the resolution has to say 3471 02:28:25,160 --> 02:28:26,399 these are the amendments that we'd like 3472 02:28:26,399 --> 02:28:31,550 to see added to the community benefits 3473 02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:34,600 agreement yes Mr Williams and I I 3474 02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:37,319 understand or I'm hearing U from Mr Mr 3475 02:28:37,319 --> 02:28:39,880 Farley's point I think based on how uh 3476 02:28:39,880 --> 02:28:41,880 our actions are being being dictated 3477 02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:43,399 that we have to continue in I think 3478 02:28:43,399 --> 02:28:44,960 passing the resolution in that manner 3479 02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:47,319 kind of protects us to ensure that hey 3480 02:28:47,319 --> 02:28:49,720 we're putting forth these ideas or these 3481 02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:54,640 re commendations but this in no way uh I think minimizes the importance of 3482 02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:56,120 having that 3483 02:28:56,120 --> 02:28:59,120 conversation yes Mr uh Madam president 3484 02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,920 perhaps a a joint letter you know 3485 02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:05,439 something less than a formal resolution 3486 02:29:05,439 --> 02:29:09,000 but something that the a letter a letter 3487 02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:11,319 circulate among the members was ever in 3488 02:29:11,319 --> 02:29:14,080 FA you know say yes you have all the 3489 02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,040 council members sign that and then 3490 02:29:16,040 --> 02:29:17,880 submit that to the mayor is that 3491 02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:22,240 acceptable yes okay okay all right um Mr 3492 02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:25,080 mud I'm sorry your hand was up or not 3493 02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:26,760 yeah yeah I think we should move forward 3494 02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:29,800 with a resolution a formal resolution 3495 02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:31,200 and then you know bring this to the 3496 02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:33,120 table and let's discuss it with via 3497 02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,600 formal resolution in 3498 02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:38,279 place and then start a discussion from 3499 02:29:38,279 --> 02:29:40,080 then on something that is more official 3500 02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:41,200 from the city 3501 02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:43,240 council well Mr O'Brian is saying we 3502 02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:44,359 could do the letter and then the 3503 02:29:44,359 --> 02:29:47,359 resolution would be the amended CBA 3504 02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:49,840 right what I'm saying is as a joint a 3505 02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,439 joint joint letter of the position of 3506 02:29:51,439 --> 02:29:54,560 the these the council members as a joint 3507 02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:56,680 letter these are these are the issu 3508 02:29:56,680 --> 02:30:00,120 these are what we want in the in the uh 3509 02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,000 in the agreement these are the these are 3510 02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:03,640 the points that we wish to have pointed 3511 02:30:03,640 --> 02:30:05,399 in an agreement as a as a Point of 3512 02:30:05,399 --> 02:30:07,880 Departure if at a later point that you 3513 02:30:07,880 --> 02:30:09,840 feel that you need to underscore that 3514 02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:11,720 you can always do a 3515 02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:14,760 resolution oh okay I'm just offering 3516 02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,319 that for suggestion pures Mr turo your 3517 02:30:17,319 --> 02:30:18,399 hand what 3518 02:30:18,399 --> 02:30:20,720 up yes 3519 02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:24,319 so if we have a resolution or a joint 3520 02:30:24,319 --> 02:30:26,439 letter position these are the these 3521 02:30:26,439 --> 02:30:29,680 points so that would only let us discuss 3522 02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:32,040 these five five 3523 02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:35,200 options correct yes that would only lead 3524 02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:35,960 to 3525 02:30:35,960 --> 02:30:38,120 discussion 3526 02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:42,359 um and it would it would be in the um 3527 02:30:42,359 --> 02:30:46,920 City Planning and Development Committee 3528 02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:50,120 yes so let me just reiterate we talked 3529 02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:52,080 about this emails have been sent out 3530 02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:53,920 there have been multiple opportunities 3531 02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:55,399 if there's more than five that people 3532 02:30:55,399 --> 02:30:57,439 wanted to so this was not a closed 3533 02:30:57,439 --> 02:30:59,000 discussion and everyone had an 3534 02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:01,319 opportunity to State what they wanted so 3535 02:31:01,319 --> 02:31:04,000 if this is what the end result was based 3536 02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:05,600 on the input that was received because 3537 02:31:05,600 --> 02:31:07,520 there were opportunities for 3538 02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:10,760 input yes Mr Farley I just so again I 3539 02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:14,240 think that I uh appreciate what our 3540 02:31:14,240 --> 02:31:15,800 Corporation councel is sharing I think 3541 02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:17,760 that and let me know Mr Mayor if I'm 3542 02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:19,560 wrong the mayor there has been a lot of 3543 02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:21,720 convers ations that have happened so I 3544 02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:24,600 think that the letter a letter will be 3545 02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:28,439 really clear as to what we are 3546 02:31:28,439 --> 02:31:31,520 collectively proposing um and I just I 3547 02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:32,439 just don't think we should put a 3548 02:31:32,439 --> 02:31:34,640 resolution in place for something that a 3549 02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:36,359 letter can do that 3550 02:31:36,359 --> 02:31:39,560 would uh then form the resolution so 3551 02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:41,240 kind of the this is the what we're 3552 02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:43,359 asking officially and then that allows 3553 02:31:43,359 --> 02:31:46,279 for that um discourse to happen and then 3554 02:31:46,279 --> 02:31:48,439 we can move forward with a resolution in 3555 02:31:48,439 --> 02:31:51,080 an a formed resolution at that 3556 02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:56,359 point yes Mr resolution is from the city 3557 02:31:56,359 --> 02:31:59,160 council putting forward uh this formal 3558 02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:02,240 request to open 3559 02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:05,000 discussion with regards to these Five 3560 02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:07,080 Points sure I guess I just didn't know 3561 02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:08,680 we needed a resolution to do that I'm 3562 02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:10,600 still not sure I still don't agree that 3563 02:32:10,600 --> 02:32:12,000 we need a resolution to do that how 3564 02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:16,120 about that that's say that's fine again 3565 02:32:16,120 --> 02:32:18,120 I I thought the same way I had a 3566 02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:19,359 discussion with the mayor and the mayor 3567 02:32:19,359 --> 02:32:21,439 says that a resolution is what is needed 3568 02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:23,880 at this point I understood that's 3569 02:32:23,880 --> 02:32:25,960 exactly I understand what you're saying 3570 02:32:25,960 --> 02:32:28,160 but um I had that question I went to the 3571 02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:30,399 mayor he said we our for we need to 3572 02:32:30,399 --> 02:32:32,359 State our formal position in the form of 3573 02:32:32,359 --> 02:32:34,720 a resolution and so that this does not 3574 02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:36,760 Kick the Can down the road any 3575 02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:39,520 further I'm willing to to move in that 3576 02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:41,760 direction because we time is of the 3577 02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:43,439 essence and I mean I know it's going to 3578 02:32:43,439 --> 02:32:48,680 be a while but um we you know we were 3579 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:50,840 trying to get this done a little bit bit 3580 02:32:50,840 --> 02:32:54,160 quicker things turned out differently Mr 3581 02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:56,840 Toro yes so I wouldn't be in favor of a 3582 02:32:56,840 --> 02:32:59,120 resolution AR rathera because the uh 3583 02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:00,760 Community benefits agreement is already 3584 02:33:00,760 --> 02:33:03,080 in place and I'm happy and satisfied 3585 02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:06,880 with what was presented to uh West yard 3586 02:33:06,880 --> 02:33:10,640 Properties LLC and um so that's kind of 3587 02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,240 where I stand on okay thank you 3588 02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:14,840 absolutely you realize that it said 3589 02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:17,279 nothing about mwbe hiring so you're not 3590 02:33:17,279 --> 02:33:18,720 interested in making sure we meet those 3591 02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,080 goals I 3592 02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:24,240 please don't question me on my on what I 3593 02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:26,120 but that's part of a standard contract 3594 02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:28,600 right we we heard that that the the 3595 02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:31,600 contractors have their own yes yes but I 3596 02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:33,359 would really like to see that in there 3597 02:33:33,359 --> 02:33:36,760 I'm I'm happy with what was presented 3598 02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:39,479 thank you so I'm I'm have some concerns 3599 02:33:39,479 --> 02:33:40,960 and other council member has concerns 3600 02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:42,760 and we put them forward so that's good 3601 02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:44,160 thank 3602 02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:47,880 you so the discussion on the table is 3603 02:33:47,880 --> 02:33:49,200 are we moving forward with the 3604 02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:52,359 resolution or uh the letter Mr I I'm I'm 3605 02:33:52,359 --> 02:33:53,800 supporting moving forward with the 3606 02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:56,840 resolution okay to start a discussion a 3607 02:33:56,840 --> 02:34:00,800 formal resolution to discuss this okay M 3608 02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:02,319 I'm just I want to ask Corporation 3609 02:34:02,319 --> 02:34:04,560 Council for clarity do in other words we 3610 02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:07,200 it's you know it's how formalized you 3611 02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:09,399 want to make it it's how formalized you 3612 02:34:09,399 --> 02:34:11,920 want to make it a letter would certainly 3613 02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:14,240 intend you with signatures of those 3614 02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:16,880 members who are signing on to that 3615 02:34:16,880 --> 02:34:19,279 particular point you know those points 3616 02:34:19,279 --> 02:34:21,640 it gets the message across to the the 3617 02:34:21,640 --> 02:34:23,640 mayor the mayor is indicated he would 3618 02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:25,720 accept such a letter but if you want to 3619 02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:28,160 have it a much more formal formal 3620 02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:30,080 resolution that's that's up to the 3621 02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:32,960 council as well it's it's certainly it's 3622 02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:36,120 how formal you want to do that you do a 3623 02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:38,640 letter you delivered tomorrow a 3624 02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:40,120 resolution you got to wait till next 3625 02:34:40,120 --> 02:34:42,200 week um but the you know the points are 3626 02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:44,520 still there but it's what you all want 3627 02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:48,640 to do as far as uh how you want to 3628 02:34:48,640 --> 02:34:51,880 proceed either way okay Mr will your 3629 02:34:51,880 --> 02:34:54,760 hands up I have no issues with a formal 3630 02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:57,240 resolution all 3631 02:34:57,240 --> 02:35:01,359 right so um at this point in time the 3632 02:35:01,359 --> 02:35:02,920 this just may point out there's a te 3633 02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:04,600 missing in the word Community benefit 3634 02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:06,800 agreement on the top on the last line of 3635 02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:09,160 the top paragraph so we'll make that 3636 02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:12,160 correction um so at this time it seems 3637 02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:14,000 the consensus is that we would move 3638 02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:15,880 forward with 3639 02:35:15,880 --> 02:35:18,560 um passing a formal resolution to 3640 02:35:18,560 --> 02:35:22,399 present these this language in here to 3641 02:35:22,399 --> 02:35:25,439 amend the um Community benefits 3642 02:35:25,439 --> 02:35:30,880 agreement so second all in favor I I 3643 02:35:30,880 --> 02:35:34,319 thank you the final items are for 3644 02:35:34,319 --> 02:35:36,479 property sales and therefore we've done 3645 02:35:36,479 --> 02:35:39,359 an executive session uh need a motions 3646 02:35:39,359 --> 02:35:42,319 to go into executive session Some Mo 3647 02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:45,319 second all in favor I we're an executive 3648 02:35:45,319 --> 02:35:47,880 session and members of the public will 3649 02:35:47,880 --> 02:35:48,640 have to 3650 02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:50,960 leave 3651 02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:53,960 a