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[3:25] call the order connected city council
[3:26] committee meeting for Monday March 18th
[3:28] 2024
[3:30] uh we have three presentations this
[3:32] evening and so I would like to start
[3:36] with the electric city colop and whoever
[3:38] is presenting please come here we have a
[3:40] microphone for you all
[3:43] right and you have handouts for us I do
[3:46] okay you can just give me look okay um
[3:51] Alexander Carver said there might I
[3:54] emailed her a presentation is it
[3:55] possible that we can get
[3:58] that
[4:01] if not that is okay because I got it
[4:03] printed out in front of
[4:04] me you
[4:06] can but I will one
[4:14] sure can you put
[4:20] this is this
[4:22] hot people at home for
[4:26] television all right uh honorable mayor
[4:29] m MERS of the city council um
[4:32] distinguished staff I just want to
[4:34] introduce myself my name is Eric Johnson
[4:36] I'm the president of the Electric City
[4:38] Food Co-op uh we're doing business as uh
[4:42] the Electric City Community grocery uh
[4:45] we were awarded a grant from arpa for a
[4:50] million dollar in in support of our
[4:52] Cooperative grocery startup in downtown
[4:54] is
[4:55] connected first I just want to say uh
[4:58] how much gratitude our group group
[5:00] brings to this uh governing body and how
[5:03] thankful we are for your support it's
[5:06] meant a lot to have your support and
[5:08] it's really lifted our
[5:10] sales uh I'd also just like to say that
[5:13] we've made uh a great deal of progress
[5:16] since being awarded this
[5:19] proposal um and would just like to uh
[5:24] you know just begin with the Positive
[5:27] gratitude that we have for this group
[5:30] and uh we'll get right into it I do also
[5:32] just want to say I recently had eye
[5:33] surgery so I was sort of counting on
[5:35] this presentation to be um online but
[5:38] I'll um work through this um and
[5:44] uh so um what what we've done is we've
[5:49] sent a letter requesting an extension
[5:52] for our arpa um Award with the city our
[5:56] award expired on March uh 12th this year
[6:00] and what we're requesting is a r uh
[6:04] extension for six months to that time uh
[6:07] so that we can work with our partners to
[6:09] secure our
[6:10] location and uh deliver a downtown uh
[6:14] grocery to the city of SKC uh our
[6:17] mission from the very beginning has been
[6:19] to deliver a grocery store to downtown
[6:21] SKC uh that is our Focus um so that so
[6:25] when it comes to um you know
[6:28] conversations about other places our
[6:30] primary focus is delivering that grocery
[6:32] to downtown skty um and then once we're
[6:35] through with that we can obviously look
[6:37] at other
[6:39] opportunities uh I just want to draw
[6:41] your attention to the third slide it's
[6:43] got uh these logos right here so what we
[6:48] have um in this third slide is a
[6:51] three um three Federal a federal state
[6:55] and a
[6:56] local uh solution or plans that were
[7:00] developed uh on the left you have the
[7:03] arpa
[7:04] um the arpa um federal law which was
[7:09] passed right and pumped a ton of money
[7:11] into the economy during co uh we've got
[7:15] the downtown re re development re uh
[7:19] initiative or drri which identified uh a
[7:22] need for a grosser in downtown skincity
[7:26] to complement the current blend of
[7:28] economic
[7:30] um economic um balance and then the city
[7:34] uh of Sky 2020 plan that was approved in
[7:38] 2008 which set a planning initiative to
[7:41] do a perform analysis for a grocery
[7:45] store and to move that
[7:53] forward uh the next slide covers um that
[7:57] we just are identified as a as a food
[7:59] desert in skty uh food desert is an
[8:03] interesting term defined by the federal
[8:05] government but in fact it's a really uh
[8:09] what I Define as food apartheid because
[8:11] it is a um structural implemented way in
[8:16] which there is a scarcity of
[8:18] availability of healthy foods for
[8:20] certain zip codes based on decisions of
[8:23] planners of the
[8:25] past and uh you know the way that we can
[8:28] solve that is through food sovereignty
[8:30] so the electric city food cop is not
[8:33] going to solve the problem uh the
[8:35] electric city food Pro um alone the
[8:38] Electric City Food Co-op is part of the
[8:40] mix on the right side of this slide
[8:43] which is slide
[8:44] four uh is uh it represents the Sky City
[8:49] Food Council which includes sium the
[8:52] Green Market SK School District farm farm School Tech Valley shuttles
[8:58] the City Mission
[9:00] uh the Cornell extension us and a total
[9:03] of 30 plus organizations that are
[9:05] working together with the concy
[9:07] foundation to further food policy and
[9:10] the challenges within the food
[9:14] space okay great great I'll put this
[9:19] down um if you can go to the next slide
[9:22] please so um it's quite easy to think
[9:26] like our organization's been around for
[9:28] 10 years now we incorporated in
[9:31] 2013 and it would be easy to conclude
[9:33] that we're not making progress I want to
[9:35] just point out this graph uh you see
[9:38] that we made steady progress up until
[9:40] the pandemic and then we Flatline the
[9:42] pandemic is represented on the red
[9:46] rectangle and you'll see as we the
[9:49] official end of the pandemic by that
[9:51] time obviously people were moving around
[9:54] but we were having explosive growth uh
[9:57] at that point we went from 4 65 members
[10:01] through 1,000 at the end of this year
[10:02] we're up to 1,035 right now and part of
[10:07] the way that we were able to invigorate
[10:09] the community was through the Public
[10:12] Funding that we had we were able to re
[10:15] uh price our membership from $200 to $25
[10:19] what this did was it made it more
[10:21] accessible to our community we had a
[10:23] more diverse population that was able to
[10:26] join in fact uh we we were able to
[10:30] gather and raise funds to provide
[10:32] solidary memberships for those that are
[10:35] unable to provide the $25 we were able
[10:37] to supplement their
[10:40] membership um so we continue to grow a
[10:42] lot of enthusiasm within the community
[10:44] and we're at the point now if you notice
[10:47] the diagram on your right hand side uh
[10:50] we've gone we have paid for uh Market
[10:53] studies we've done uh our proforma our
[10:56] business plan uh We've exceeded our me
[11:00] our membership goals to where we can
[11:02] kind of move out of our planning stage
[11:04] and we've been engaged with Metroplex
[11:07] and we have um are getting ready to sign
[11:09] a site uh contract with NCG who is our
[11:14] uh our implementation partner which I'll
[11:16] go to in in a few more
[11:18] slides so if we can go to the next slide
[11:21] please I just want to just reflect on
[11:23] some of our board members
[11:26] um pretty great group of people
[11:30] we meet every week uh to further it we
[11:33] have four active subcommittees within
[11:36] this board the people that are circled
[11:39] with a light green color are all new
[11:42] within the last year and I just want to
[11:44] highlight that within this group of
[11:46] board members we have people that have
[11:50] deep experience within the grocery
[11:52] business both Price Chopper and
[11:55] Cooperative groceries uh people who have
[11:58] experience on board Boards of directors
[11:59] of co-ops we've got Finance people we've
[12:03] got accountants we've got food
[12:05] manufacturers uh we've got Bakers and
[12:08] just general downtown boosters so these
[12:10] are the people from your community our
[12:12] community that are invigorated and
[12:15] involved and are looking to get this
[12:17] project
[12:19] done uh building back to better together
[12:22] and so the on the next slide just want
[12:24] to cover uh National Cooperative Grocers
[12:28] so you can kind of think of this as like
[12:30] a um it's a chain for independent
[12:34] groceries they have a Professional
[12:36] Services line that is in the business of
[12:39] starting up GR uh Cooperative grocery
[12:42] stores around the country in fact
[12:43] they're starting up six in the first
[12:45] half of this year so they're on on Pace
[12:48] of doing about one per month just right
[12:50] now they've got 230 stores in 39 states
[12:55] and their total spend is $2.5 billion
[12:58] annually so we get a lot of buying uh
[13:01] advantages by working with the national
[13:03] Cooperative Grocers they've got a
[13:05] product line which is uh an affordable
[13:09] product line uh there's often um an
[13:12] association with cooperatives that
[13:15] cooperatives are expensive I'm never
[13:17] going to be able to afford it oh thank
[13:19] you so much um and cooperatives can be
[13:22] expensive but it's our goal to provide
[13:25] Staples that are affordable to our
[13:27] community uh that's imper for our
[13:29] business model and also provide options
[13:32] for you know with local farmers which
[13:34] might be at a higher price
[13:36] point so um you know we've got lots of
[13:40] examples and and like I said the um 1.3
[13:44] million customer owners uh are reflected
[13:47] there they've got contracts with semi
[13:50] trucks to move move food in so we be
[13:52] using them for food supply they'll help
[13:54] us with the Final store design um HR
[13:59] payroll Finance point of sale uh through
[14:02] store opening through um
[14:06] stabilization uh so the dream te team
[14:10] can't be beat so it's kind of a funny
[14:12] play there but we've got uh the Electric
[14:15] City Food Co-op the national uh Co-op
[14:18] Grocers and uh obviously you all who
[14:22] were so thankful for and SK County and
[14:25] of course Metroplex and uh Dave or Scott
[14:30] I don't know if there's anything that
[14:31] you wanted to add or wait for
[14:37] questions Scott C Tech Metro PL um it be
[14:42] on
[14:43] camera okay Scott C Tech Metroplex uh
[14:46] thank you for letting us be here today
[14:48] uh you know Eric and his team have been
[14:50] really working extremely hard and trying
[14:52] to make this a reality I can remember
[14:55] back to the late 90s you know not having
[14:58] anything supp to have a grer downtown
[15:01] you know outside of Eastern Avan Price
[15:03] Chopper and so this has been a long time
[15:06] coming there's a lot of momentum being
[15:08] had right now we're at almost at the
[15:10] finish line there's a couple locations
[15:12] and a couple developers they're working
[15:14] with I can't disclose either location
[15:16] and or developers because we signed n
[15:19] NDA non disclosure agreements um but I
[15:22] will say that with a little more time I
[15:25] think we can uh pull this off um you
[15:27] know with the bank Environ right now
[15:29] Insurance a little bit higher we all
[15:31] thought the rates start coming down a
[15:32] little bit I think that they will as we
[15:34] get toward summertime that's kind of
[15:36] affecting some of the pricing strategies
[15:38] but I do think that given a little bit
[15:40] more time here I think they they can uh
[15:42] execute this plan U they're doing all
[15:44] the right things and U anything that you
[15:46] can do to extend this little bit we be
[15:48] much appreciate it um and uh we do
[15:51] appreciate it thank
[15:57] you
[16:00] okay this next slide is uh a screenshot
[16:03] from our new website which was just
[16:05] released over the weekend which we're
[16:07] excited about but that's not the main
[16:10] points the main point is what's in it
[16:12] for the community as you I'm sorry it's
[16:16] the slide with the yeah that one right
[16:18] there
[16:18] so yeah so what what what are we
[16:21] bringing to the community um you see
[16:24] expanded uh access to Local Foods uh and
[16:28] local you know supporting local grossers
[16:31] producers and artisians keep your
[16:33] dollars local uh create local jobs uh
[16:37] our estimate is um
[16:41] $154,000 monthly
[16:43] payroll um cultivate thriving
[16:46] communities rooted root systems uh give
[16:50] classes you culinary classes how to
[16:53] sharpen knives how to do the things that
[16:55] some of our Traditions have forgotten as
[16:58] far as cooking together and eating
[17:00] together uh participate in the
[17:02] governance of a Cooperative organization
[17:05] and connect with communities so it's
[17:06] just important to uh think that this is
[17:09] a really great way for us to develop our
[17:11] community and expand the Civic
[17:14] engagement here in SK
[17:17] activity um like Scott said and thanks
[17:20] for that Scott uh we're working with
[17:22] Metro Metroflex to sign an agreement to
[17:25] occupy a space and a lease agreement uh
[17:28] as you said we can't um disclose the
[17:31] location or the developer and as of you
[17:35] know Tuesday last week when our deadline
[17:38] came through we did not have that deal
[17:40] done and that as we all know
[17:42] negotiations sometimes take a little bit
[17:44] of time right they're not always easy
[17:48] and so this negotiation is taking a
[17:50] little bit of
[17:52] time uh just as to close if you know a
[17:57] vote a vote of no an extension for us
[18:00] makes gives you plenty of time to
[18:03] reallocate the funds for other
[18:05] priorities that you
[18:07] have um the risk is as our team sees it
[18:11] is that you're missing a really a once
[18:13] in a-lifetime opportunity to bring a
[18:15] grocery store to downtown the private
[18:17] sector alone isn't going to do this it
[18:20] doesn't work work for them and so if if we miss this opportunity we're going
[18:26] to be waiting a long time time to get a
[18:29] Downtown
[18:31] Grocery and um you know we've got a good
[18:35] leadership team we've got robust
[18:38] participation uh people are lit up about
[18:41] participating in this and just excited
[18:44] to support one another and that's
[18:45] something that we all like to see in our
[18:48] community so I think from that
[18:50] perspective it would be um a challenge
[18:54] for us to not see this
[18:57] extension voting yes on a six-month
[19:00] extension uh would align with arpa dri
[19:05] and vision
[19:06] 2020 it would improve food access and uh
[19:09] Equity it would catalyze local and
[19:11] Regional food opportunities and
[19:14] encourage citizens to participate in the
[19:16] Democratic process within the food
[19:19] system itself the downside or risk you
[19:22] might say is that 6 month extension
[19:25] would allow you only 14 weeks to
[19:27] reallocate those funds funds by the time
[19:30] that you must have those committed which
[19:32] I believe is December 31st of this year
[19:37] and the other downside is other grantees
[19:39] would have to essentially wait in the
[19:41] winds while they're um while while we're
[19:46] fing out on things it's not our
[19:48] intention to use the full six months uh
[19:51] these negotiations do take time uh and
[19:55] unfortunately Eric and the co-op team
[19:58] don't always get a seat right at the
[20:00] front of the table because a lot of
[20:02] these negotiations are between
[20:04] Metroplex the the county and the
[20:07] developers so we've been I think Scott
[20:10] and know's very encouraging of this
[20:12] project moving process moving along
[20:14] faster but these negotiations do just
[20:16] take some
[20:19] time um just a few supplemental slides
[20:23] so from the drri uh I just want to note
[20:27] that the dri report of 2020 noted that
[20:31] there was a lack or void of neighborhood
[20:33] goods and services in the downtown area
[20:36] so that is um one of the three important
[20:40] ingredients to a healthy economy and
[20:42] without um a healthy uh Tri Brit of
[20:47] those three areas you won't have people
[20:50] coming down and staying downtown to
[20:51] spend their dollars and that's been
[20:53] identified and
[20:54] reinforced as a problem a systematic
[20:57] problem with downtown sign Cony and it's
[21:00] why we have a hard time keeping and
[21:02] attracting Shoppers in the downtown area
[21:06] um and I think this next slide shows
[21:09] that if we're able to SOL at least
[21:11] partially solve that problem by bringing
[21:13] goods and services downtown neighborhood
[21:15] goods and services then we get just more
[21:18] walkability more people spending more
[21:20] money downtown um more action downtown
[21:25] the the restaurants will benefit uh
[21:27] other stores will benefit so um I think
[21:30] that that's just an important thing and
[21:32] then lastly I just want to say that um
[21:36] I'm not sure that co-ops are familiar to
[21:38] everybody
[21:40] but we're a Cooperative uh other one of
[21:44] the other organizations here is is a
[21:45] Cooperative
[21:46] organization and what we know about
[21:49] cooperatives is that it's a way to lift
[21:51] one another up in Economic Development
[21:55] by supporting one another and teaming
[21:57] together to make uh Solutions where
[21:59] otherwise Solutions won't be available
[22:02] so that's really all I have to present
[22:04] to the council I'm the mayor and I'd
[22:06] like to thank you if there's any
[22:08] questions be more than happy to answer
[22:10] those right so I'm going to start but so
[22:12] the site control the only thing that
[22:13] you're really waiting for in terms of
[22:15] being able to move forward with this
[22:17] project site control is where what is
[22:20] the one leling factor yes all right and
[22:23] um you said you wanted 6 months yes so
[22:27] um but you pointed out yourself then we
[22:29] only have 14 weeks to reallocate funds
[22:31] although I think we I think the city
[22:32] could figure that out Anthony
[22:34] right um so let's say we just can't get
[22:37] to 6 months what could what could we
[22:40] reasonably sure um great question so a
[22:45] reasonable uh compromise would be
[22:47] splitting the difference but 3 months
[22:50] really won't get us what we need uh so
[22:54] you know you say like Eric's asking for
[22:56] 6 months let's get him 3 months the
[22:58] clock already ticking we're one week
[22:59] into it um and so from my perspective 3
[23:04] months is a very risky proposition to to
[23:09] me and I thought a lot about this 5
[23:11] months is about where we could land and
[23:13] still either know this deal is going to
[23:16] happen and we're going to get it done or
[23:17] no this isn't and we've given it a vant
[23:19] effort and you know we'll either
[23:23] continue without the funds or we'll go on our Mar
[23:27] lights
[23:29] right so I do you know just I I think I
[23:31] already said this to you but if we
[23:33] whatever time limit we give and you know
[23:35] we're not going to be unreasonable um
[23:37] once we get there and if you're not able
[23:39] to do that then we would have no choice
[23:41] but to to resend the funds because we
[23:44] are facing that deadline it's not
[23:46] because we want to but we are facing a
[23:48] deadline with the federal government and
[23:49] we have to meet that deadline or we
[23:50] could then ConEd to lose funds and we
[23:52] certainly don't want to do that so um
[23:55] like I started off we're very grateful
[23:57] and full of gratitud ude for this Grant
[24:00] and totally understand where you are so
[24:04] yeah we're meeting where where you are
[24:07] other questions for Council Members Mr
[24:09] Williams just as a point of clarity and
[24:11] thank you for this presentation I think
[24:13] it was very apparent that you built it
[24:14] with an understanding of working
[24:16] collaboratively and together and I think
[24:17] that was one of the common themes that
[24:19] just very much stood out to me um just
[24:22] wanting to get a clarification from um
[24:24] Council porterfield's Point uh it's
[24:27] apparent that the biggest obstacle is
[24:29] the getting sight control however you
[24:31] alluded that there were other elements
[24:32] also that 5 months does that fully
[24:35] address the site control issue or is
[24:37] that to fully address all outstanding
[24:39] issues so yeah so where we're at right
[24:42] now is we've submitted our affid
[24:44] affidavits our policies our uh orc
[24:48] structure like we've submitted
[24:49] everything to you guys all uh we have
[24:53] one Gap with insurance which is you
[24:55] can't have insurance without a site and
[24:57] we just have a box right now so we
[25:00] talked with Miss Carver about that uh
[25:02] there is a question of a $5.7 million
[25:05] match and we do not currently have that
[25:07] so we've got a commitment from the
[25:08] county for 3 million the situation is a
[25:11] little bit different right now because
[25:14] uh previously when we applied for the uh
[25:17] Grant the idea was to buy a building so
[25:20] that with with some of these projects
[25:22] they're much bigger projects and so we
[25:25] will be a tenant with that and paying
[25:27] for a portion of to build out through
[25:30] our grant funds so to specifically
[25:33] answer your question I think we look for
[25:34] some accommodations with the matching of
[25:40] 5.7 anybody else thank you Mr yes follow
[25:44] up on that you're matching a 5.7 is that
[25:46] secure or in the process of being secure
[25:50] so it's not secured it's our our request
[25:52] was to have contributions from our
[25:54] developer right so that would be for a
[25:57] few million uh we got the county for 3
[25:59] million and I think actually what we'd
[26:02] like to request is a reduction in that
[26:04] 5.7 for to something lower than that the
[26:08] matching amount from the county and the
[26:10] city uh I think we could do a little bit
[26:12] more than that but that would be ideal
[26:14] 44 million yeah so $3 million matching
[26:17] to the 1
[26:18] million so overall what is an estimated
[26:21] cost of this
[26:22] project so again that depends on the
[26:26] particulars of the development
[26:28] um but right now we're looking
[26:31] at I mean one developer
[26:34] is is it possible that I could just give
[26:37] you some numbers afterwards I mean I or
[26:40] I mean I can give you estimates yeah I'm just looking for
[26:43] estimates so so right now it's um like
[26:48] 4.5
[26:50] to I'd say 5.8 would be the total
[26:54] project alling cost
[26:57] mhm
[27:01] Mr F yeah I just wanted to oh I'm
[27:05] sorry no sorry yeah so I'm looking at
[27:07] the numbers here so you let going high
[27:09] in 5.8 this is estimated numers so
[27:12] you're looking at um that secure money
[27:14] already from the city and county $4
[27:15] million so you're looking at $1.8
[27:18] million out yeah small funding yeah so
[27:22] that's that's right so we'll need to
[27:24] make that up through commitments from
[27:27] the developer
[27:28] that's one and then
[27:31] loans it's yeah uh the loans will be a
[27:34] combination of member loans like
[27:37] Community loans and then uh development
[27:40] like uh there's Cooperative uh
[27:44] startup Capital funds that give out
[27:47] loans and it is also hard to get a loan
[27:50] and you don't have a lot any collateral
[27:54] right you you mentioned um in your
[27:57] presentation that your point where to
[27:59] secure this lease agreement so you think
[28:01] that at that point where you're right
[28:03] now to secure the lease agreement is
[28:05] going to take you 5 mons to get that
[28:08] done I hope so I mean if we don't have
[28:11] that I maybe I'd ask Scott to ask answer
[28:24] that um typically you know when you get
[28:26] to this part of the game game you
[28:28] typically will sign up what they call an
[28:29] Loi which is Le than 10 that just basic
[28:33] business tenants you know rate term some
[28:37] other major things then into the lease a
[28:40] document itself from timing perspective
[28:43] again this is if we agree today we have
[28:45] a deal you're probably looking at you
[28:47] know anywhere from 30 to 60 days just to
[28:49] complete that task if we had the site
[28:52] already identified work the math out
[28:55] since we kind of two sites that were
[28:57] working true we don't have the final
[28:59] numbers yet so it's probably going to be
[29:01] more three 3 to four months and you know
[29:05] once you kind of get to that point so
[29:07] asking for five is you know is great um
[29:09] but I do think we're very somewhat close
[29:11] to pulling this together and we do need
[29:13] some time so it's not like you just
[29:15] we're going to do this you legal
[29:17] documents you have to you know uh
[29:19] finalize and make sure that everyone's
[29:21] comfortable with the terms of conditions
[29:22] of the lease and that does take a little
[29:24] bit of time back and forth so hopefully
[29:26] that answers the question so
[29:31] Mr Bry has a question so well more of a
[29:33] statement too so number one I want to
[29:35] kind of just highlight some of the
[29:36] things that you talked about as far as
[29:38] growing
[29:39] membership um you know so this is
[29:42] clearly a project that's really about
[29:44] it's not lost on us that it's about
[29:46] accessibility and once you were able to
[29:48] secure funds where you didn't have to
[29:50] charge people such a high amount more
[29:53] people had uh that created an open up
[29:56] access for people to join and I think
[29:58] that that is really what we're talking
[30:00] about this project you know overall is
[30:03] that with access to um quality food
[30:07] people care about what they eat but but
[30:10] right now The Limited options that are
[30:13] presented kind of don't um you decrease
[30:16] the likelihood of them having a healthy
[30:17] food option so I I think that it's
[30:19] really um important that we we just kind
[30:23] of recognize the fact that as soon as we
[30:25] increase access to people to be a part
[30:27] of this they were a part of this and I
[30:29] would just um safely assume that that
[30:31] would be the response from the larger
[30:33] community that if we presented for
[30:35] people that they were supported I also
[30:37] like the fact that you have some um
[30:39] board members with some pretty extensive
[30:41] uh experience um with grocery stores and
[30:44] could you talk a little bit about that
[30:46] and what their are sure yeah uh and I
[30:48] would say just to respond to your first
[30:50] point we fully expect our membership to
[30:53] really Skyrocket once we uh continue to
[30:55] Skyrocket once we announce and I just
[30:58] want to say that there's no requirement
[31:00] to be a member to shop at this fishy
[31:02] store so I just want to be very clear
[31:03] there so Rick mosart who's right over
[31:06] there this uh handsome looking gentleman
[31:08] he he has 30 years experience uh fitting
[31:11] up Price Choppers for go go up
[31:14] Corporation so he's the guy that would
[31:16] go in and optimize Price Choppers uh set
[31:19] them up make sure that the insides the
[31:22] guts the operations were just as they
[31:24] should be so he was uh one of Mr gb's
[31:27] Right and
[31:29] lieutenants uh and then after that he
[31:31] broke away and worked for hestu f food
[31:35] cop which is a food cop UH 60 plus years
[31:38] old in Albany was General Manager for 5
[31:41] years and then we've got a geman named
[31:44] Alex Mika who is uh worked at aneste as
[31:47] well and he's since taken a job with
[31:50] national Cooperative grocers in their
[31:53] Consulting team he won't be on our
[31:55] project because it would be sort of a
[31:56] conflict of interest
[31:58] but he's out helping uh co-ops all
[32:01] around the country those 230 Co-op
[32:03] grocery stores that I talked about in
[32:05] order for them to make the most of their
[32:08] Co-op right cuz this this organization
[32:10] gives marketing help HR help legal help
[32:13] uh operations help point of sale help it
[32:16] help and all that so those are the two
[32:19] guys and then I have been involved with
[32:21] food coops I lived in Denver before here
[32:23] I was involved in one food co-op that
[32:26] got turned upside down because the real estate got um too valuable so we
[32:31] didn't get a chance to open the store so
[32:33] the the dirt got to be too valuable we
[32:36] weren't able to open I was on a board of
[32:38] another Co-op that had a mix of a
[32:41] nonprofit and a for-profit model so we
[32:43] were able to do a lot of more Community
[32:46] oriented activities so I've been around
[32:49] cutting my teeth with the co-op space
[32:50] for a while as well okay one more so
[32:53] also obviously this project is about
[32:55] accessibility and equity and I just
[32:57] could you talk a little bit about um
[33:00] maybe what the value system around
[33:03] hiring people from the neighborhood as
[33:05] you know section section three workers
[33:07] as they usually described and people um
[33:10] uh minority and women um like you talk a
[33:13] little bit about what the ideology is of
[33:15] the group in Project yeah so we've uh so
[33:20] we're going to have about uh 38 to 45
[33:24] full-time employees on opening um and we
[33:27] haven't set any specific policies about
[33:29] that but we want the makeup of our our
[33:33] store to be the makeup of our community
[33:37] so without getting into too many details
[33:38] we want it to reflect our community
[33:41] itself thank
[33:43] you any other questions
[33:46] comments well thank you for coming and
[33:48] thank you for all the hard work I know
[33:49] it's been years of work and they could
[33:52] drop the ball on thank you so much
[33:53] everybody I really appreciate your time
[33:55] and we'll we'll discuss this in in our
[33:57] committee come on thank you very much
[33:59] for
[34:14] coming good evening mayor Madam
[34:17] president city council I apologize for
[34:20] my tardiness we had an unforeseen um
[34:23] fire and development so I do apologize
[34:26] for that
[34:31] um next we have
[34:33] our mirac Freddy project which is the
[34:36] hand we now today have presenting before
[34:39] us the Hamilton Hill um Cooperative
[34:42] Association which is made up of some
[34:45] community service providers that are
[34:46] vested in keeping the Maran crate
[34:48] project in the hands of the community
[34:50] and they are presenting today asking us
[34:52] to reimagine what that Family Center
[34:54] will be so today we have brother Johan
[34:56] Matthews who will be presenting
[34:58] on behalf of the
[35:02] co-op thank you everybody I'm going to
[35:06] pass on
[35:09] yeah we have a printed version
[35:13] of should be enough for everybody at the
[35:26] table Carl and
[35:29] I he's good he's
[35:32] good all right all right now
[35:39] we're excellent so thank you for having
[35:43] us my name is Johan Matthews here to
[35:45] speak on behalf of the Hamilton Hill
[35:48] Community Cooperative so we're distinct
[35:50] from ml we saw their efforts we're
[35:54] inspired we were hoping to get involved
[35:56] once it was completed but but that leg
[35:58] of the journey has been completed and so
[36:00] we're here now looking what's going to
[36:02] happen moving forward now that this
[36:04] building's been returned and we know the
[36:06] community still needs this service so
[36:08] before we go into who we are as a
[36:11] Hamilton Hill Community Cooperative uh
[36:14] and this project idea reimagining that
[36:17] space in order to provide services as
[36:20] the Carver family community center I'd
[36:23] like to introduce you to
[36:25] Janet so this is Janet she's a ham Hill
[36:28] resident been there her whole life and
[36:31] she is well loved by the community great
[36:34] energy better smile people love her and
[36:38] uh she works parttime at Marshalls you
[36:40] know she doesn't have fulltime hours
[36:41] she's been wanting it for a while and
[36:43] she's going to school in the evening to
[36:46] be a nurse all right but lately she's
[36:48] been anxious in fact she's
[36:51] expecting and she's expecting and
[36:53] anxious because this is not her first
[36:56] child right me Lamar this is her first
[36:59] son this individual is energetic like
[37:02] his mother loves to draw just an awesome
[37:05] little kid but he spends most of his
[37:07] evenings uh at home playing video games
[37:10] while his mother has to run to the the
[37:13] school run to her job he's doing his
[37:16] thing at home exploring the world the
[37:18] video games at home right and she's also
[37:21] nervous about that but she's more
[37:23] nervous because his dad is not in the
[37:25] picture right nice young guy L but he's
[37:28] not there right they were young when
[37:31] they had him that passionate romance
[37:33] allowed U that passion relationship
[37:36] allowed romance but it also allowed a
[37:37] lot of arguments so Lamar spends his
[37:40] time at home with Grandma Joanne right
[37:42] here moved to to Hill in the '90s from
[37:44] the city for her family so that they can
[37:47] have a second chance right she's watched
[37:50] the community transformed over the last
[37:52] 20 years 30 years and she's watched her
[37:54] family grow up watching little Lamar
[37:57] from a baby until now now meet little
[38:00] Joelle right that's who Grandma spends
[38:02] her days watching they're waiting on a
[38:05] preschool or daycare waiting list to
[38:07] open up so she get get can get in there
[38:10] but right now Grandma's watching her all
[38:12] right and that's Stacy above Grandma
[38:15] she's the heart of the family she works
[38:17] as a medical billing specialist she
[38:20] dreams of having a Cookie Company you
[38:22] know so instead of dealing with cavities
[38:24] she'll cause them and but she doesn't
[38:26] know how she doesn't know how start a
[38:28] business you know how to deal with money
[38:30] that's Unk that's grandma Joann's um
[38:33] only son he just came home a few years
[38:36] ago and he is known as the wizard cuz
[38:40] he's a a local chess Grandmaster right
[38:43] so he loves to spend his days in Barber
[38:44] Shop playing chess dropping pearls
[38:46] studying philosophy but he can't get a
[38:49] job right everyone sees his character
[38:51] today he's on his best behavior but
[38:53] employers won't let him live down his
[38:55] Worst Behavior so look at this family
[38:58] this is a typical family H to hill now
[39:00] I'd like to introduce their Lifeline
[39:04] this is you're kind of Highly efficient
[39:07] nonprofit service provider providing
[39:11] very efficiently um needed services like
[39:13] food right local community members
[39:15] donate it they catch a cab have a ride
[39:19] come they go out to their Community they
[39:21] live in Hamilton Hill but they leave and
[39:23] go get this food from this Pantry they
[39:26] need this food these services and when
[39:29] they go there they feel as though
[39:30] they're getting some of what they need
[39:32] but they have to give so much they have
[39:34] to wait in line wait behind the glass
[39:36] tell their life story victimize
[39:37] themselves it's kind of a poor
[39:39] experience though they need they need
[39:41] help they don't feel needy right now I'd
[39:44] like to introduce the Carver Family
[39:46] Resource Center right so this is the
[39:48] vision that we're here to share this is
[39:51] a multi-stakeholder membership
[39:53] organization we've got a th Community
[39:55] member owners who walk in this building
[39:58] like they own it because literally they
[39:59] do and that's how they treat it whether
[40:02] they they for services around food or
[40:05] housing or dayare they are treated like
[40:08] they belong we also have investor
[40:10] members these are institutional
[40:12] investors like this connect Foundation
[40:14] or possibly the city who serve as a
[40:17] foundation for this initiative they've
[40:19] designed and seeded a trust that
[40:22] provides um income for the operations of
[40:26] this Center in perpetuity so they've
[40:29] seated a fund and that fund is in the
[40:31] trust and every year it gives out
[40:34] dividends to support this activity
[40:36] overall covering the cost within the
[40:39] first 5 to 7 years we've also got the
[40:42] service provider members many of which
[40:44] are assembled in this room but there in
[40:46] this case 10 members and they all have
[40:49] the resources they need to serve the ham
[40:52] Hill families so this is an ecosystem of
[40:56] family centered services
[40:57] right in the heart of ham Hill right in
[41:00] the heart of the craigman connection so
[41:02] when we look at this picture we see
[41:04] Janet who now has maternal care like
[41:07] adulla to help her ease those anxieties
[41:10] she feel about being a mother again
[41:13] right we've also got community father
[41:15] who can provide support groups and
[41:17] domestic violence training and anger
[41:19] management training to help LEL get back
[41:21] into the picture we've got after school
[41:24] program for little Lamar who can come
[41:27] and leverage his love for drawing maybe
[41:29] become the next Marshall Jones of SK all
[41:32] right provided by the art center we've
[41:34] got little Joel who is not going to be
[41:37] on the waiting list for preschool
[41:38] anymore she's going to be in um Sprouts
[41:41] daycare we're going to have a daycare on
[41:43] site and for Aunt Stacy she's going to
[41:46] learn how to start a business and manage
[41:47] her finances from uink to the economic
[41:50] artment Center we're going to have those
[41:52] resources to teach you about financial
[41:54] literacy as well as how to start a
[41:56] business and for an not only could he
[41:59] serve as a a coach and Mentor for many
[42:02] of the youth programs we'll have ring of
[42:03] ho boxing or uh electric swarm he can
[42:08] also get Workforce Development support
[42:10] when to start a business learn to build
[42:13] his trades and for Grandma instead of
[42:15] spending all her time taking care of
[42:17] others we have a food prep service
[42:20] providing healthy fresh meals for her
[42:23] okay so she can get off medication so we
[42:26] literally have have an ecosystem of
[42:28] services for the mothers who are
[42:31] expecting babies to the grandma Whois
[42:33] them that's what we're looking at so
[42:36] where are we now well as I mentioned
[42:38] we've established 10 service providers
[42:41] these are homegrown institutions that
[42:42] came out of the soil of skincity and
[42:44] they're here to support the people who
[42:47] already already support them already get
[42:49] support from them right so that's
[42:52] Community fathers the hamon Hill Arts
[42:54] Center you corporate um um we've got
[42:58] interest from the economic empowerment
[43:00] Center we've got this connect to the um
[43:02] City Ministry and the city Ministries
[43:05] and a few others right so we have 10 cor
[43:08] members who are nonprofit service
[43:09] providers who are going to be members of
[43:11] this Community Cooperative using the
[43:15] space to provide services in the heart
[43:17] of the community all right we're hoping
[43:20] to continue the campaign in the
[43:22] community to get up to a th000 community
[43:25] members we know over 500 people of sign
[43:27] petitions we have multiple pages of
[43:29] folks signing petitions we're going to
[43:31] ask 1,000 community members there's over
[43:33] 7,000 people in Hamilton Hill in Vil
[43:36] area to provide $100 to help Capital
[43:38] capitalize us right so ,000 of $100 next
[43:42] we're going to invite investor members
[43:45] between March and may we think and we've
[43:48] already had support from the skan
[43:50] foundation many of you guys might see
[43:52] the letter of support from them to join
[43:54] us as investor members he investor
[43:57] members or institutions who can provide
[43:59] ink kind support as well as financial
[44:01] support we're going to be asking for up
[44:03] to 150,000 from 10 of these guys and so
[44:06] maybe the average will be 100,000 so
[44:09] that's how we're looking to continue
[44:10] this journey we have the service
[44:12] provider members we know the community
[44:14] is is there to support this and next
[44:16] we're hoping to tap into the
[44:17] institutional community of which we have
[44:19] a lot of support from the scy
[44:21] foundation next step of course after
[44:24] this communication today we're hoping to
[44:27] fire Carver and work together with the
[44:29] city values align developers to make
[44:32] this happen not with Jo matchs but for
[44:35] the ham Hill families right they need it
[44:38] so if we can work together I'm sure we
[44:40] can figure it out uh between March this
[44:43] year and June
[44:45] 2025 that's almost a year a little over
[44:48] here sorry we can make this happen
[44:50] according to the quotes from the
[44:51] contractors it's about 6 months for the
[44:54] construction to be completed once they
[44:56] get started
[44:57] this is just based in correspondence
[44:58] I've seen so that building could be
[45:01] stabilized by December if we wanted to
[45:04] however obviously nothing works so
[45:06] perfectly and they're saying if it's not
[45:08] fixed by some parts of it not
[45:11] stabilized uh some parts won't make it
[45:13] through the winter so I know there's a
[45:15] sense of urgency there and the bill is
[45:17] on the historic register so the final
[45:20] step of course looking to end of next
[45:22] year we to formalize our offerings as
[45:26] this communities cooperative and open
[45:30] the doors as the Hamilton Hill Community
[45:33] Co-op and and offer the services we
[45:35] mentioned for the Parson's family so
[45:37] that's the next step so what's this cost
[45:41] start up on you guys all have do
[45:43] proposal you know that the lowest bids
[45:46] for the project came in at around 2.9
[45:48] Million for construction so that
[45:51] includes everything but maybe by um some
[45:53] smaller details uh commercial kitchen
[45:55] and things like that so we have a little
[45:57] bit of a build out there for that
[45:59] commercial kitchens can run anywhere 40
[46:02] to 200 for you know very extravagant so
[46:05] we just put that in there cushion maybe
[46:07] a security system like a fob system
[46:10] every member gets a little fob in and
[46:12] out we know who's in and 10% for working
[46:14] capital to support the operations over
[46:17] that first three or four years so that
[46:20] total is about
[46:21] $3.5 million to start up sources we know
[46:26] the city of SK has previously allocated
[46:28] $1.2 million to this project we're going
[46:31] to ask that you continue that allocation
[46:33] right we know the community needs it we
[46:35] know we need to spend the money I think
[46:37] it's a match next the hamton hill
[46:40] Community co-ops members as I mentioned
[46:42] we have three classes of members we have
[46:44] the residential members people who live
[46:46] in Hamilton hill we have the service
[46:49] provider members these homegrown
[46:51] institutions providing these needed
[46:52] services and as well as our investor uh
[46:56] institutional investors members who can
[46:57] help us design and see the trust so that
[47:00] we can perpetually benefit from that
[47:02] trust and have a self-sustaining program
[47:05] in addition to the the grants and so on
[47:08] that these 10 organizations are used to
[47:10] attracting these are you know relatively
[47:13] well-known organizations despite being
[47:15] underresourced we also are looking at an
[47:18] office of Child and Family Services
[47:20] grant for child care when the child care
[47:23] is needed in the community they're
[47:25] homebased providers but this can be a
[47:27] way to support that so we partner with
[47:29] the art center submit a $1.5 million
[47:32] application we looking for about
[47:34] $750,000 finally CF The Cooperative fund
[47:38] of the Northeast I'm affiliated with
[47:40] this fund and I help form and financed
[47:43] cooperatives across the country they can
[47:45] provide up to $2 million per deal we
[47:48] probably looking for a $500,000 line of
[47:50] credit and if we can get less um we
[47:54] probably go less because you know we
[47:55] don't want to start with de debt
[47:58] probably around 5% 5 and 12% so that's
[48:01] what we're dealing with there this is
[48:04] some of the monthly expenses right now
[48:06] this is what folks can expect to pay for
[48:08] their current programming so you know
[48:11] that's about $7,000 a month as far as
[48:13] what folks are used to paying for their
[48:14] real estate we want to save folks money
[48:17] right they're sharing this space making
[48:19] ownership more accessible because
[48:20] they're sharing it additionally we'd
[48:23] want to provide other services like
[48:25] shared bookkeeping shared accounting
[48:27] shared marketing the more money we save
[48:29] these groups the more money they have to
[48:32] support this initiative and provide
[48:33] services to the community on the expense
[48:37] side we know we're going to see staff
[48:39] we're hoping to initially start with a
[48:40] community manager someone who could deal
[48:42] with the internal Community make sure
[48:44] everyone has what they need the
[48:45] temperature is right if Halls are swept
[48:48] we'll have an office manager you know
[48:50] collecting rent keeping the books in
[48:52] order both part-time initially
[48:54] increasing over time you take ities and
[48:58] internet we use some commercial real
[49:00] estate averages 2.1 $210 per square foot
[49:05] multiply that by the 20,000 s ft and we
[49:09] get these numbers as well as property
[49:11] main maintenance we use other industry
[49:13] averages 2.3 times the 20,000 ft to get
[49:17] that number for insurance fill out an
[49:20] application online using one of those
[49:21] services to spit out a quote around 800
[49:24] a month we can probably do around up to
[49:27] a th000 some
[49:29] comparable uh organizations that I've
[49:31] called and got cours for give me their
[49:33] number problem maxent out about,
[49:36] month so sustainability plan as I
[49:40] mentioned we're hoping to get working
[49:43] capital or Operational Support 100,000
[49:47] split over the next 3 4 years that we
[49:49] also get usage fees we can probably
[49:53] expect at Max Capacity to get $84,000 as
[49:56] a say 70,000 a month for the you know
[49:59] couple of organizations in there but we
[50:01] assume a 50% usage rate so we say
[50:04] 42,000 if we see a fund for
[50:08] $150,000 right one of our investors or
[50:10] multiple can do so help us design and
[50:12] see the fund at 7% average return that's
[50:16] $10,000 a year one so we can get that to
[50:19] get the ball rolling next up space
[50:21] rental this is just community members
[50:23] who want to access the space Maybe host
[50:25] a tournament whatever the case is we get
[50:27] three or four of those 250 or so you
[50:31] know we put it in
[50:32] there and um all the expenses are
[50:36] basically self-explanatory for marketing
[50:39] we're looking to maybe do a documentary
[50:41] year one to show the community this
[50:43] model of cooperation to show this story
[50:46] we think it could be a powerful story
[50:48] and then regular Market materials
[50:50] supplies is miscellaneous toilet paper
[50:52] ink so on Professional Services for Year
[50:55] One this will be a lawyer to help us
[50:58] design the Trust In collaboration with
[51:00] our Institutional Investor members we
[51:02] already have a lawyer we're working with
[51:04] but you know a trust simple trust could
[51:07] range from
[51:08] $6,000 all the way up to 10,000 for a
[51:11] very complicated one we're just trying
[51:13] to do something that would make sense
[51:15] and then finally interest only payments
[51:17] under lineing
[51:20] credit so year two these cost just
[51:23] continue to increase if we get two more
[51:25] investors in that F and that fund that
[51:28] we want to do that uh undividable
[51:30] reserves we can get you know 500,000 7%
[51:33] of that 35,000 that's helping us to get
[51:36] to Brick
[51:37] even by year three we've broken even
[51:41] we've earned
[51:43] 234,000 expenses
[51:45] 215,000 obviously this is best case
[51:48] scenario and the numbers are very
[51:49] conservative we'll be looking to reduce
[51:52] costs using um ecoe efficiency measures
[51:56] such as LED bulbs um we want to do um
[52:00] solar panels we want to do automatic
[52:02] shut offs things like that all these
[52:05] basic things and my company is involved
[52:08] with a few of these types of um
[52:10] proposals through nerto and so on so we
[52:13] think we could take advantage of that
[52:14] and try to figure that piece out uh
[52:16] potential Partners all of these guys
[52:19] have demonstrated some support in the
[52:21] past to this or something like this the
[52:24] CDs connected 1.2 Metroplex
[52:27] 150,000 seeing you know what folks
[52:30] desire to continue to support this
[52:32] second leg of the journey would be and
[52:35] see what's going on as we said the
[52:37] building is in the heart of the craigman
[52:38] connection we've seen a lot of support
[52:41] from tono and Santa Barbara at the
[52:42] political level and recently we even saw
[52:44] Santa Barbara supporting myai who was at
[52:47] risk of leaving because you know they
[52:49] had a building that was uh facing some
[52:52] disrepair so we think there's a lot of
[52:54] precedent for support around Community
[52:57] Center especially a homegrown one like
[52:59] Harver that has such significance
[53:02] historically connect to the county we
[53:04] have friends over there who we think
[53:06] will be supportive of this and we'll
[53:07] rely on you guys to help us to connect
[53:09] to that the conected foundation I
[53:11] mention we already have a letter of
[53:13] support from them and a desire to
[53:15] connect us to the philanthropic
[53:17] community in the capital region
[53:19] literally around table going into the
[53:21] room pitching this many funders at once
[53:24] to see who would be interested in
[53:25] joining into the
[53:27] so that's the right Community Foundation
[53:29] Capal region many others we think
[53:31] there's interest or could be interest
[53:33] from the steart foundation business for
[53:35] good already had to line out for this so
[53:38] we're queued up for a conversation from
[53:39] them the T Foundation has supported the
[53:42] um restorative justice housing fund
[53:44] providing millions of dollars to Black
[53:46] and low-income homeowners in the capital
[53:48] region so we think they'd be queued up
[53:50] for this friends with that program and
[53:54] uh and a few others that I've mentioned
[53:56] as as well as a few community
[53:58] development financial institutions
[54:00] Community Loan Fund C region I used to
[54:02] be a technical assistance provider there
[54:04] they're less activist connect but
[54:06] they're part of the original deal I'm
[54:07] sure we can have a conversation and the
[54:09] Cooperative front which I'm currently
[54:11] affiliated with providing Finance or
[54:14] access to finance to emerging
[54:15] communities across the
[54:17] country so right now with the 1.2 that
[54:20] the city already had allocated for this
[54:23] project all of what's on the screen is
[54:26] possible
[54:27] all abatement of hazardous materials all
[54:31] demolition of unneeded materials and
[54:34] systems finished installation of new
[54:36] electrical service and installing
[54:38] temporary lighting owering the building
[54:40] s new tours and inspections and so on
[54:43] all roof repairs and Replacements all
[54:46] sight improvements fa fencing landscape
[54:50] Asal gravel pavement
[54:52] stripping um exterior and interior
[54:55] masonry work and repairs including new
[54:58] doorways where needed exterior slabs for
[55:02] mechanical equipment all window repairs
[55:06] and Replacements all exterior door
[55:09] repairs and Replacements renovation of a
[55:12] bathroom by the back door renovation of
[55:14] the
[55:15] auditorium and so on so quite a lot is
[55:18] already possible if we come together
[55:21] even more is possible so that's the
[55:24] point of this entire uh
[55:27] effort I welcome your
[55:32] questions thank Mr barley so first of I
[55:36] like to appreciate the way you frame
[55:37] that sometimes we get caught up in our
[55:39] thinking around the project and we
[55:41] forget that the project was really about
[55:43] people um so I I I I can appreciate that
[55:46] I wanted to um ask a question as you're
[55:48] looking at taking on Partners um I know
[55:51] that there's talks of uh other Community
[55:54] Partners just in the swirling of
[55:56] interested um and you're uh it seems
[55:59] like this group is actually looking to
[56:01] collaborate with other uh stakeholders
[56:03] in order to sustain um in order for
[56:06] sustainability that's that's correct
[56:08] right yeah we're happy to collaborate
[56:10] with any values aligned in investor
[56:13] service provider and developer and when
[56:16] we say values Line Community centered
[56:19] creating a sense of ownership for the
[56:21] community providing a new model so we
[56:23] think anyone who's open to that
[56:25] certainly someone you're willing to work
[56:27] with thank
[56:30] you so this will not be a 501c3 that it
[56:34] will be a
[56:35] Cooperative so there's two ways to think
[56:38] of this one is the character of the
[56:40] business you can be cooperative in
[56:43] nature because we're all engaged in this
[56:46] decision- making process in a one Member
[56:48] One vote right you can do so as a
[56:51] nonprofit as a for-profit and then you
[56:53] can think about the actual entity form
[56:56] right right whether it's a nonprofit
[56:57] for-profit or cooperative Corporation
[57:00] you can create the entity to suit the
[57:04] financial environment if the people with
[57:06] the problem can pay for it that's a
[57:09] business if the people with a problem
[57:11] can't pay for it that's a nonprofit
[57:13] right with the co-op we're going to pay
[57:16] to solve this problem together right
[57:18] like the food co-op they have their
[57:21] customers built-in that's their members
[57:23] with a residential Co-op they have their
[57:26] um customers built in that's their
[57:27] renters or their residential owners with
[57:29] a worker cop they have the labor built
[57:32] in and so on so forth so we can choose
[57:34] an entity form that's conducive to
[57:36] whatever the environment is and we're
[57:38] working on that right now with a lawyer
[57:40] okay thank
[57:41] you Mr Williams uh first I just wanted
[57:45] to to point out I very much appreciate
[57:47] the way in which you started your
[57:48] presentation uh I think uh hearing it U
[57:51] framed in that way accurately put the appropriate level of importance on
[57:56] ensuring that this project sees sees a
[57:58] fair opportunity uh one of the points I
[58:01] wanted to to ask at to uh and I thought
[58:03] it was a a very good point that you made
[58:06] you identified that the starting of
[58:09] construction uh conservative or not
[58:11] conservative but uh if we started now it
[58:13] would uh consist of March 2024 to June
[58:17] of 2025 is that correct be less than
[58:20] that 6 months is what you know the bid
[58:23] says so but you know perfect conditions
[58:26] obviously is what they're thinking um
[58:28] but the point I wanted to highlight is
[58:30] uh you identifi just the continuation of
[58:32] no renovations being conducted this
[58:34] building going through another winter
[58:36] exactly from your conversations would
[58:38] you mind expanding on that so all I have
[58:41] are corresponding snapshots delivered uh
[58:45] from the architect and the construction
[58:47] documents pertaining to that to the city
[58:50] and to you know the previous holders of
[58:53] the Baton so you know the correspondence
[58:56] is all with the city and I can kind of
[58:58] reference that but that's all I know
[59:00] that there's a suspect there's an
[59:02] opinion that the building certain
[59:04] aspects of it will not last probably
[59:06] roof and these types of things so the
[59:09] construction details are all with the
[59:10] city at this point but I think it's safe
[59:13] to surise that just that the Coster is
[59:15] going to continue to Skyrock longer that
[59:17] this building exists in its current
[59:19] condition um the cost of doing nothing
[59:21] now is definitely more substantial than
[59:24] the opportunity to do something buy
[59:27] absolutely um I did want to focus on the
[59:30] sources for the projected startup cost
[59:33] uh you identified in the Hamilton Hill
[59:36] of community collaborative that the
[59:38] members would uh consist of1 million
[59:43] $110,000 do you have a timeline for how
[59:45] you start yeah so we already have this
[59:49] 10 service providers that we think are
[59:50] core each of them could do a buying of
[59:52] $1,000
[59:54] $10,000 then we believe a ,000 community
[59:56] members over 600 or so have already
[59:59] demonstrated support of this we go to
[1:00:01] that list and we try to get the next 400
[1:00:04] each of them given $100 they can pay it
[1:00:07] over the course of several months if
[1:00:08] they needed to but that's what it would
[1:00:10] take they've already signed a petition
[1:00:12] so ,000 then we go to up to 10
[1:00:15] Institutional Investor members within
[1:00:18] the cical region Community to provide up
[1:00:21] to
[1:00:22] $150,000 assuming the average will be
[1:00:25] 100,000 some be less whatever that's 10
[1:00:27] at 100,000 that's a million that's 1,000
[1:00:30] people at $100 that's $100,000 and
[1:00:33] that's 10 service providers at 1,000
[1:00:36] that's
[1:00:37] $1,110,000
[1:00:39] and if you had to assign a a date to
[1:00:42] that or a time line gotta yeah I would
[1:00:44] say over the next 3 months we're going
[1:00:46] to get cooking on that and obviously
[1:00:48] we'll continue to campaing throughout
[1:00:50] the year you think the sense of urgency
[1:00:52] is going to drive people to action and
[1:00:55] see if it's possible
[1:00:57] Mr M yeah just follow on that you you
[1:00:59] mentioned about having 10 core members
[1:01:02] at
[1:01:03] $100,000 100,000 is that correct 10 core
[1:01:06] members the service providers yes that'
[1:01:09] be 10,000 also 1,000 each yeah so is
[1:01:12] that a you mentioned petition or is
[1:01:13] there a commitment letter from from
[1:01:15] these individuals or agencies we are all
[1:01:19] committed um we're creating the
[1:01:21] coroporation right now we don't you know
[1:01:23] have a memorandum of understanding
[1:01:25] between ourselves but we're showing up
[1:01:26] every week meeting and you know a lot of
[1:01:28] them are in the room right now they can
[1:01:30] speak for themselves happy to
[1:01:32] demonstrate that commitment yeah so you
[1:01:35] mentioned about creating this entity now
[1:01:37] you're in the process of doing that so
[1:01:38] it's not finalized it yet and you are
[1:01:42] not sure if it's going to be a non
[1:01:44] for-profit or a for-profit entity at
[1:01:46] this point in time we have two options
[1:01:48] on the table obviously it could be uh
[1:01:52] for-profit Cooperative Corporation sub
[1:01:54] CH te or or it could be a 501 C12 kind
[1:01:58] of a variation on the C3 model the
[1:02:00] charitable nonprofit and this would
[1:02:02] again just be based on making sure we
[1:02:04] can do everything we want to do uh
[1:02:06] within the context and within the
[1:02:08] financial environment so those are the
[1:02:11] two options we have we just have to kind
[1:02:12] of vot to move forward we do have the
[1:02:14] lawyer we do believe we can get the EXP
[1:02:16] that in so I was going ask that it's
[1:02:19] something that you should exp if you
[1:02:22] power yeah and the you know 10
[1:02:24] organizations are establish nonprofits
[1:02:27] and for-profit business if we needed a
[1:02:29] fiscal sponsor we have that you know
[1:02:31] that's pretty typical but yes you're
[1:02:33] right we have to choose one and we're in
[1:02:35] the process of doing so yeah you also
[1:02:37] mentioned about the Grant from ocfs are
[1:02:40] they paperwork in or are you just
[1:02:42] exploring that so we included the
[1:02:46] deadline for the application and you
[1:02:48] know Rachel could speak a little bit to
[1:02:50] submit sorry planning to submit plan to
[1:02:53] submit and the next one the letter of
[1:02:55] credit are you doing the same in terms
[1:02:57] of getting the paperwork in yeah yeah
[1:02:59] I've already spoken to the loan officer
[1:03:01] and we're kind of exploring that piece
[1:03:05] already and the reason why I mentioned
[1:03:07] it because we're looking at you
[1:03:09] mentioned the lowest bet at
[1:03:11] 2.9 and you're estimating a total
[1:03:13] completion of 3.56 million yeah so the
[1:03:16] shortfall is about you know significant
[1:03:19] amount so that is where my question is
[1:03:21] coming in in terms of the hhcc members
[1:03:24] getting a commitment from them
[1:03:27] and not only a beer petition or a letter
[1:03:30] or an email or a text that they going to
[1:03:32] do that it's more someone need to make a
[1:03:35] formal commitment in terms of these
[1:03:37] funding because these are critical
[1:03:38] funding to complete this project MH yeah
[1:03:42] and of course you know I agree with that
[1:03:45] um I would say the 50 years the art
[1:03:48] Center's been here is a commitment 20
[1:03:50] years from Community fathers is a
[1:03:52] commitment we're very much committed to
[1:03:54] this many of these groups well
[1:03:56] respective organizations are working
[1:03:58] with the executives you know making less
[1:04:00] than what we believe is the moderate
[1:04:02] income you know what I mean so the
[1:04:04] commitment is there but we will get it
[1:04:05] in writing you're absolutely right now
[1:04:07] you didn't mention sorry you didn't
[1:04:09] mention a list of U foundations are you
[1:04:12] reaching out to them or are you sending
[1:04:13] formal letters to bring them on board as
[1:04:16] being um FAL Partners yes and we've
[1:04:19] already gotten a letter of support from
[1:04:22] the skan foundation in writing and that
[1:04:25] will be kind of a catalyst as we know
[1:04:28] the foundation is a catalyst and Bob has
[1:04:31] already volunteered to start to connect
[1:04:33] us to that founding round table that I
[1:04:35] mentioned before they meet a few times a
[1:04:37] year so we're going to be queued up for
[1:04:39] that however that plays out as well as
[1:04:41] oneon-one conversations with each of
[1:04:44] funders that we have listed so I've
[1:04:46] already reached out to many of them some
[1:04:47] of them you know obviously we need to
[1:04:50] have some measure of assurance from the
[1:04:52] city we're not looking to be across the
[1:04:54] table from you guys we going be looking
[1:04:56] at this problem together moving forward
[1:04:58] together so as long as that's you know
[1:05:01] the path to beginning that conversation
[1:05:03] is clear I think we're going to be full
[1:05:05] seee just just a follow I'm going to go
[1:05:08] back to the registration if you were to
[1:05:10] put a timeline on that can you put a
[1:05:14] timeline on that because I know it's
[1:05:15] very important that you register this
[1:05:16] entity oh for the registration a
[1:05:19] timeline on that seeing how important it
[1:05:22] is yeah um I would say right now we're
[1:05:25] mid March the goal is to have that
[1:05:27] buttoned up by May so that'll be the
[1:05:30] timeline next 3 months but certainly
[1:05:32] before that we'll be completed if we
[1:05:34] decided to do an LLC which is very
[1:05:37] possible um and still having the
[1:05:39] nonprofit members just have an ownership
[1:05:41] in that that's done next week right so
[1:05:44] there's there's certain things we can do
[1:05:46] quickly and certain things that will
[1:05:47] take time we have a very experienced
[1:05:49] Cooperative lawyer as well as you know
[1:05:51] I'm very familiar with with this process
[1:05:54] so can you can you speak to I know that
[1:05:56] there was another group that was taking
[1:05:58] this and then um you were trying to
[1:06:00] partner didn't exactly work out so can
[1:06:01] you kind of speak to the time when you
[1:06:04] picked up to where you are now because
[1:06:05] it seems pretty you've done a
[1:06:07] significant amount of work in that time
[1:06:09] frame so can you speak to since we
[1:06:10] started organizing this again in
[1:06:13] anticipation of supporting the fruits of
[1:06:16] their labor we were already tuned in now
[1:06:19] we just realized we had to come together
[1:06:21] given the unfortunate nature of the
[1:06:23] relinquished property um so over the
[1:06:26] last month or two is when we've been
[1:06:28] formally organizing pulling these quotes
[1:06:31] letting people know about this so that's where we've been we're also
[1:06:34] trying to learn from them you know we
[1:06:36] want to be as open as possible we want
[1:06:38] everyone to know they have a seat if
[1:06:40] their values aligned obviously and
[1:06:42] committed to the community at this table
[1:06:44] and that we can do this together so we
[1:06:46] trying to learn from them we respect
[1:06:48] what they've done we think it's been a
[1:06:50] admirable effort it's brought attention
[1:06:52] to this it's brought a sense of
[1:06:54] possibility and um yeah that's that's
[1:06:57] how we connect to it new new do you have
[1:06:59] something to follow no I think you
[1:07:01] better
[1:07:02] much any other questions or um so I just
[1:07:06] want to be clear your your ask is you
[1:07:09] can articulate your ask so the ask would
[1:07:12] be a pathway to ownership for the
[1:07:14] building right again we see this as a
[1:07:16] city problem shared problem this
[1:07:18] neighborhood's going to feel the burnt
[1:07:19] of that impact and first Ral refusal
[1:07:23] right if we want to do something else
[1:07:24] cuz again these these are all extent
[1:07:26] nonprofit service providers I would say
[1:07:28] homegrown institutions places where
[1:07:31] people feel at home receiving the
[1:07:32] services they need and we also are
[1:07:35] asking for continued allocation of the
[1:07:39] $1.2 million previously allocated and to
[1:07:43] do so on a basis of non-reimbursement so
[1:07:47] whether it's a progress invoicing or
[1:07:50] upfront we aren't capitalized well
[1:07:52] enough to spend money to be reimbursed
[1:07:54] so we don't want it under basis as well
[1:07:56] as matching we're not going to be able
[1:07:58] to raise money to get the money that we
[1:08:01] already raised you know so we're asking
[1:08:03] for it to be allocated without those two
[1:08:06] constraints because they're unsuitable
[1:08:08] for us as a group trying to engage this
[1:08:10] project and finally we're asking for you
[1:08:13] guys to partner with us to make this
[1:08:18] happen so you the way you explained it
[1:08:21] the
[1:08:22] 1.250 um would be used just for the next
[1:08:26] 6 months to get the building online is
[1:08:28] that do I understand that properly yes
[1:08:30] to make sure this building doesn't
[1:08:32] become more expensive to fix and that's
[1:08:34] how you would looking to spend that
[1:08:37] allocation
[1:08:38] okay other questions yes Mr Williams I
[1:08:41] think final question and I very much
[1:08:42] appreciate your optimism and definitely
[1:08:44] it identifies uh a clear need and I
[1:08:47] don't think that is something that is
[1:08:48] debatable uh that's was highlighted
[1:08:50] through the your your narrative at the
[1:08:51] beginning um would you mind just
[1:08:53] identifying what you think your biggest
[1:08:55] obst or hurdle will
[1:08:56] be yeah I think a lot of us don't know
[1:09:00] what we don't know right you start
[1:09:02] digging up that building all of a sudden
[1:09:04] you know you you uncover some ancestral
[1:09:06] barrier grage something right it's
[1:09:08] haunted who knows so I think just
[1:09:10] there's a lot of things we don't know
[1:09:12] individually right we have a lot of
[1:09:14] Gusto a lot of capacity but we're
[1:09:17] underresourced so if we can partner with
[1:09:20] other folks like the city who's also you
[1:09:22] know facing certain Shaw Falls or
[1:09:24] whatever the cas is but has a lot of
[1:09:25] capacity in other places we can fill in
[1:09:28] the puzzle so I think just not having it
[1:09:30] all by ourselves is the obstacle and the
[1:09:33] cooperation is a solution thank
[1:09:37] you one
[1:09:39] more I think we mentioned a lot of uh
[1:09:41] foundation and and entities I didn't see
[1:09:44] you mention anything about going to the
[1:09:45] county or have a county here as a
[1:09:47] partner have you approached a county to
[1:09:51] this project yes so uh Omar mcel
[1:09:54] supportive of the project and we know
[1:09:57] that there was an effort previously to
[1:09:59] align County um interest in this and so
[1:10:02] we'd want to continue to shake those
[1:10:03] trees again I'm sure a lot of you guys
[1:10:05] are familiar with pokes over there and
[1:10:07] how things work so maybe you can help us
[1:10:09] out as
[1:10:13] well uh any other questions or anybody
[1:10:15] else hear any speaker your do anyone
[1:10:18] like to say
[1:10:20] anything I think that he said everything
[1:10:22] that needed to be said you think that he
[1:10:24] said everything okay
[1:10:25] you know but I just want to just say
[1:10:27] then then you do want to say
[1:10:29] something let me just say something
[1:10:32] because I think that even as a community
[1:10:35] resident this is so important to the
[1:10:37] heart of our community this is like a
[1:10:39] heartbeat of our community it has been
[1:10:42] it's always been and right now to walk
[1:10:44] by and see it in the shape that it's in
[1:10:47] and it's sitting empty you know it's
[1:10:49] like a blight besides that I think that
[1:10:52] the fact that we're moving towards
[1:10:54] Cooper
[1:10:56] it would be beautiful if uh many of us
[1:10:58] nonprofits had the kind of money that we
[1:11:01] could just go and buy a building and
[1:11:03] make it happen but we we don't have it
[1:11:06] like that and the fact is that we're
[1:11:08] dealing with a principle I I heard you
[1:11:10] ask to ask people about certain things
[1:11:12] about a value system and a value system
[1:11:15] that we're putting into this is
[1:11:17] cooperative economics and Collective
[1:11:19] work and
[1:11:20] responsibility these are two of the
[1:11:23] seven principles that we deal with when
[1:11:25] we deal with the whole thing of Quant
[1:11:28] and the principles that we try to bring
[1:11:30] to improve our community Through um
[1:11:33] creativity to leave it better than it
[1:11:35] was and also to it's about our city
[1:11:39] showing the type of efforts it makes to
[1:11:43] make sure that the community is involved
[1:11:46] we are very uh Innovative place here in
[1:11:49] skty when I go places and I speak and I
[1:11:52] speak on SKC people have never heard a
[1:11:56] city that does some of the things that
[1:11:58] is being done here in terms of its
[1:12:01] Outreach and the way it brings in a
[1:12:03] collectiveness of bringing people
[1:12:05] together and I think this is also
[1:12:08] something that will show that and show
[1:12:11] our community because the community
[1:12:13] wants to see something that it help
[1:12:16] create and I think this is as a resource
[1:12:19] Cent this is really just uh going to
[1:12:22] take it to the next level of the 21st
[1:12:24] Century
[1:12:25] that's all I have to
[1:12:27] say thank
[1:12:29] you any other questions oh Mr far yes
[1:12:33] with the p uh so I know that um uh the
[1:12:36] previous group that was kind of leading
[1:12:38] this effort you know um something that
[1:12:41] they did do extremely well was uh going
[1:12:43] out and getting signatures for over 500
[1:12:46] residents that lived in the immediate
[1:12:48] area um so um I can appreciate how this
[1:12:52] uh project is is still in the space of
[1:12:55] what the community was explicit about
[1:12:57] them wanting um so I think that you
[1:13:01] know that's really important to
[1:13:02] highlight and as well as you being
[1:13:04] willing to be responsible to the needs
[1:13:06] of community but also being um willing
[1:13:08] to um welcome other partners on to help
[1:13:11] out with um some of this you know the issues around sustainability and and
[1:13:16] as a council I just welcome us to kind
[1:13:18] of consider the fact I think to Madame
[1:13:20] president's Point earlier really to her
[1:13:21] question um is that this is um not
[1:13:25] necessarily Community problem but a
[1:13:27] community opportunity that's been
[1:13:29] presented in a really really tight
[1:13:31] timeline based on the circumstances that
[1:13:34] uh uh the last group um found themselves
[1:13:36] in so to pick this up you know you're
[1:13:38] really not starting from zero here
[1:13:40] you're building on what's already there
[1:13:41] and it's still responsible to need to
[1:13:43] the community so just kind of want to
[1:13:44] highlight that absolutely we're a
[1:13:47] distinct group from that group but we
[1:13:49] are continuing a legacy a legacy that
[1:13:51] has inspired the community so thank you
[1:13:53] guys for your time take you thank you
[1:14:02] thank our final pres presentation is
[1:14:05] from um about the Empowerment Center
[1:14:08] brother Ron Gardner our affirmative
[1:14:10] action officer he is presenting today
[1:14:14] asking city council to reconsider the
[1:14:18] arle funds that were allocated
[1:14:21] towards Maurice just threw me off I'm so
[1:14:23] sorry uh
[1:14:26] for Mr Garner did not submit one today
[1:14:29] Maurice thank you he's looking to have
[1:14:31] the funds reallocated for the rehab of
[1:14:33] the Empowerment Center on Albany Street
[1:14:37] um to programming over the next three
[1:14:38] years so Mr Ron
[1:14:45] Garner good afternoon good evening
[1:14:47] council members mayor SC gas um that was a powerful uh presentation I
[1:14:55] want to set that right the gate and we
[1:14:58] talking about the economic empowerment
[1:15:00] Center and and I'll just say coming
[1:15:02] right out that's exactly the same
[1:15:04] mission and vision that we've had for
[1:15:06] the past four years in terms of working
[1:15:08] on ctive effort creating uh ecosystem if
[1:15:12] you will so I'm totally 100% in support
[1:15:15] of what they're proposing here and
[1:15:17] working with them to uh to make this
[1:15:20] happen and what I had specifically asked
[1:15:22] for was we were allocated uh some funds
[1:15:25] to
[1:15:26] uh redevelop 818 Aly Street and I was a
[1:15:30] with the cause of construction and
[1:15:32] getting that whole ecosystem up up the
[1:15:34] line you know that's not uh going to
[1:15:36] happen that's that's not working but but
[1:15:39] I had you know proposal here in terms of
[1:15:42] what we want to do with all our Pro
[1:15:44] program and to that you know creating
[1:15:47] job opportunities uh creating business
[1:15:50] capacity and growing the capacity and
[1:15:52] also developing a pipeline of a work for
[1:15:55] to come to us within the City by way of
[1:15:57] the public safety you know police fire
[1:16:00] and all of the other departments that we
[1:16:01] have within uh our ecosystem within this
[1:16:04] building so so with that
[1:16:07] said uh I I would love to work with this
[1:16:10] group because uh I think this is so
[1:16:12] critically important to uh to really
[1:16:15] make this happen and if we're going to
[1:16:17] be serious and really make a difference
[1:16:20] in the lives of our community I think
[1:16:22] it's laid out and we see these uh
[1:16:24] examples every day when we go out there
[1:16:26] on the streets and we talk to people and
[1:16:28] I tell folks all the time everybody come
[1:16:31] a lot of people come out every day and
[1:16:33] they're so happy to be in this city but
[1:16:35] they're really in in a desperate State
[1:16:38] and we need to figure out how do we make
[1:16:40] a difference how can we utilize the
[1:16:42] resources in this once in a-lifetime
[1:16:44] opportunity that we have because this is
[1:16:46] truly once in a lifetime and and I would
[1:16:49] certainly you know asked the the counsel
[1:16:52] and um allow opportunity to work you
[1:16:56] know with these groups and others but in
[1:16:58] the Cooperative effort because that's our whole mission is how do we
[1:17:01] create uh the capacity how do we create
[1:17:03] job opportunities and how do we create
[1:17:05] more home buyers and Home Ownership with
[1:17:07] our community and that's really what you
[1:17:10] know what it's all about and that's
[1:17:12] where my heart has been and I'm sure
[1:17:14] that's where I know Dr Walters I I know
[1:17:17] him so but anyway that's that's that's
[1:17:20] where I'm at so
[1:17:21] um I I'll leave at that that's just get
[1:17:25] any question or whatever yes um you
[1:17:28] really weren't explicit on what you
[1:17:29] would like us from the council though
[1:17:32] well specifically what I want to do is
[1:17:34] reallocate the funds that I had that
[1:17:37] were going toward the construction of
[1:17:39] 818 and I want to mooved that into
[1:17:41] programming and when I talked about
[1:17:43] programming I had it broke out into the
[1:17:45] categories of small business support um
[1:17:49] Workforce Development and also
[1:17:51] developing a pipeline of a Workforce to
[1:17:55] uh come into the the city for by way the
[1:17:57] fire department police department and
[1:17:59] other agencies within the city so those
[1:18:01] be you know basic categories that I have
[1:18:04] U outlined
[1:18:08] there um
[1:18:10] so do you have a a written plan for us
[1:18:12] that we could you know we be able to
[1:18:15] take a look at that yeah yeah yes I I I have a plan I thought that uh it was
[1:18:20] submitted but anyway I'll I'll give that
[1:18:21] to you and and again I would like to you
[1:18:25] know take time to modify it to reflect
[1:18:28] um you know what we you know you know
[1:18:30] what we learning here and how we can uh
[1:18:33] you know you know make a difference and
[1:18:34] make it
[1:18:35] happen WIS C so we have nothing I do not
[1:18:39] have a plan unless you're ref to the
[1:18:41] plan that should presented early on to
[1:18:43] city council but not just for this
[1:18:46] reallocation exactly okay so Madam
[1:18:50] president Mr F so you might have been on
[1:18:54] the same kind of page time so basically
[1:18:56] um there there will be a a plan and
[1:18:58] you're saying that based on some of the
[1:19:00] information that you heard today you'd
[1:19:01] like the opportunity to kind of um
[1:19:04] revamp some of that to see what it
[1:19:06] naturally aligns with some of the other
[1:19:08] Reed today know
[1:19:11] so miss
[1:19:15] car so how much funding are we talking
[1:19:17] about this point time I think it's we
[1:19:19] need to be clear about dollar
[1:19:22] $875,000 was what was allocated what was
[1:19:25] allocated and some of that's been spent
[1:19:28] 53,000
[1:19:29] roughly
[1:19:31] okay and
[1:19:33] so so you're you're asking us to take
[1:19:36] the the balance of that the 800 and uh
[1:19:39] whatever it is um to all towards
[1:19:44] programming over the next three
[1:19:47] [Applause]
[1:19:50] years no I just was looking at my notes
[1:19:53] the remaining balances is $823,000
[1:20:24] what they're doing to some level and so
[1:20:28] they're asking for more money as well so
[1:20:29] we're definitely going to have to look
[1:20:30] at this not necessarily together but
[1:20:33] we're going to have to look at that big
[1:20:33] po of funding all at once we we just
[1:20:35] don't have any other money so
[1:20:39] um again there's there's nothing but
[1:20:42] tonight so for clarity Mr Gardner with
[1:20:44] city council you want me to resubmit
[1:20:46] what was submitted the last time you
[1:20:48] came and spoke on programming in the
[1:20:51] Empowerment Center the city council
[1:20:53] which was last month sometime right so so I want to revise that okay
[1:20:58] to to work more collaborative you know
[1:21:01] with this group so we have a more
[1:21:02] cohesive comprehensive plan to that I
[1:21:05] think these resources will help them get
[1:21:07] a little bit closer to the hump and and
[1:21:10] as far as the Empowerment Center and
[1:21:12] what I'm trying to do that's that's not an issue I've always wanted
[1:21:17] to work Cooperative because it's not in
[1:21:18] the building and it doesn't matter if
[1:21:20] it's here there or whatever it's all
[1:21:22] about how do we serve people and what
[1:21:23] I'm putting forward is simply a people's
[1:21:26] budget if you will to provide those
[1:21:28] services so they've outlined some of
[1:21:30] them already we can certainly enhance on
[1:21:32] that and grow on it and build on
[1:21:37] it any other questions yes to there I
[1:21:39] just have a question as follow you
[1:21:41] mentioned a part of your Workforce to
[1:21:43] include the police and fire can you
[1:21:46] elaborate on that and what is there
[1:21:48] involv
[1:21:49] orol Department yeah well specifically
[1:21:51] what I likey to do is work within our
[1:21:53] community and develop a pipeline if you
[1:21:55] will to get our
[1:21:58] young get our young men and young women
[1:22:01] from here in in our city area to
[1:22:04] consider Public Safety and Public Safety
[1:22:07] don't necessarily mean just the police
[1:22:09] and fire but you know we got ogs we got
[1:22:11] L you know everything so so we talk
[1:22:14] about Public Safety we want to try to
[1:22:15] encourage and create that ecosystem
[1:22:18] within our community within our
[1:22:19] neighborhoods and we're working to
[1:22:21] develop that partnership starting you know going into the school district
[1:22:25] and getting them young and coming
[1:22:27] forward and and exploring and and
[1:22:29] sharing ideas and and exposing them to
[1:22:31] the opportunities so again specifically
[1:22:34] about Public Safety police and fire we
[1:22:37] we're trying to identify and enhance the
[1:22:40] efforts and why you want to consider
[1:22:41] that support and help them prepare you
[1:22:44] know for these exams and applying for
[1:22:45] these opportunities and also explor
[1:22:48] Expos them to Opportunities by having
[1:22:50] them meet and talk to people in the
[1:22:52] field in other words talk to the fire
[1:22:54] talk to the police officer see what it's
[1:22:56] like where did they come from how did it
[1:22:58] how do it relate why would this be an
[1:22:59] interesting you know an opportunity for
[1:23:01] us and and and I and I think uh we can
[1:23:04] really develop a pipeline and giving
[1:23:06] them support and the resources necessary
[1:23:08] to make a difference because the school
[1:23:10] district obiously want to work with
[1:23:12] us we as a city want to do this so I
[1:23:15] think it will help us if becomes a
[1:23:17] winwin scenario to what we're trying to
[1:23:19] do so it's simply trying to build a
[1:23:21] pipeline if you will to to have the
[1:23:23] bodies to to bring It Forward is this
[1:23:26] something new that you're going to be
[1:23:27] creating or is this something you
[1:23:29] already have we've been talking about it
[1:23:31] for years but uh getting it done you
[1:23:34] know it's it's talking to one thing and
[1:23:36] you know dealing with the resources and
[1:23:37] the barri to make it happen but each and
[1:23:39] every day more and more pieces of the
[1:23:41] puzzle come together you know so um it
[1:23:44] took me two years to get a conversation
[1:23:46] with the school district with the change
[1:23:47] the administration and change of this
[1:23:49] and how do we make it work so now we
[1:23:51] have that piece of the puzzle down we
[1:23:53] have a desire desire from within the
[1:23:55] administration here to bring in people
[1:23:57] look at from our local ranks how do we
[1:24:00] grow and develop that so every day more
[1:24:03] and more of those pieces of the puzzle
[1:24:04] comes together so we work with you know
[1:24:07] other organizations like for example the
[1:24:09] one black men for example they have a
[1:24:11] tremendous amount of resources in there
[1:24:12] in terms of police and fire and other
[1:24:15] Public Safety uh Avenues so we can
[1:24:17] utilize that resource I work with the
[1:24:19] community colleges we work with them on
[1:24:22] a regular basis to again help us develop
[1:24:25] this pipeline to uh to make it Power how do we how do we navigate
[1:24:30] this Mr FY yeah I I I CU hearing all of
[1:24:35] these things and there seems to be a lot
[1:24:36] of alignment a lot of information a lot
[1:24:39] of good information even as we're trying
[1:24:41] to navigate this these are all kind of
[1:24:42] good problems to have if you will great
[1:24:44] opportunities I would just um I would
[1:24:47] suggest that um maybe based on some of
[1:24:49] the information that you heard here
[1:24:51] today um go ahead and revising um what
[1:24:55] the initial proposal was um and
[1:24:58] therefore I think that we can um make a
[1:25:00] more informed decision based on
[1:25:02] that and does this include the
[1:25:05] programming that you're currently doing
[1:25:06] on the um in the building on Broadway
[1:25:09] yeah yeah we would include all that
[1:25:11] that's ongoing you know so these are
[1:25:13] things that will obviously migrate over
[1:25:15] expand on whatever the case may be but
[1:25:17] yeah absolutely because again we're not
[1:25:18] starting from Ground Zero we got program
[1:25:21] that we've been doing and we continue to
[1:25:23] do on a Basin so those things will
[1:25:26] continue and as these other
[1:25:28] opportunities come online or these other
[1:25:30] physical plant that will come online you
[1:25:33] know that's an easy uh you know
[1:25:35] migration
[1:25:37] thing those program that currently uh
[1:25:41] executing are those um funded under cdbg
[1:25:45] yes yes yes any other questions
[1:25:51] comments all right well we'll look
[1:25:52] forward to the submission of this
[1:25:56] document do you have anything else you
[1:25:58] want to add no I think
[1:26:10] uh okay one other thing I would like to
[1:26:12] add though is it's sort of off topic
[1:26:15] though but it it it continue to come up
[1:26:18] in terms of um Workforce Contracting
[1:26:21] opportunities and employment
[1:26:22] opportunities within the uh Within the
[1:26:24] city and I and I do I am aware of
[1:26:27] contractors feeling that they have not
[1:26:29] gotten opportunities and and I would
[1:26:31] just say that I agree with them 200%
[1:26:34] they've not gotten opportunities that
[1:26:36] they need and uh we work to deal with
[1:26:39] that on the daily basis but I will say
[1:26:42] to you know to those contractors me
[1:26:45] personally I don't write contracts I
[1:26:47] don't sign checks you know I can't hire
[1:26:49] anybody so I work with you in an effort
[1:26:53] to bring for the opportunity so that you
[1:26:55] can build the relationships and and make
[1:26:57] those type of things happen now
[1:26:59] frustration is out there yes you see a
[1:27:02] lot of things going on yes but uh I
[1:27:05] think one thing that we can certainly
[1:27:07] do is look at okay if we really want to
[1:27:10] seriously take a step and stop that we
[1:27:12] can stop all the contractor don't make
[1:27:15] the uh don't meet the objectives we can
[1:27:16] say okay we're not going to do it put
[1:27:18] them back out the bit or whatever but
[1:27:20] I'm but I'm just as frustrated as
[1:27:23] everybody else here you know to see you
[1:27:25] know the numbers it breaks my heart
[1:27:27] because I see the young man young lady
[1:27:28] out down the street trying to get a job
[1:27:30] I see them putting in the application
[1:27:32] and I see they're not getting high so
[1:27:33] what can we do and this is what we're
[1:27:35] trying to do to create these programming
[1:27:37] opportunity to at least we can move one
[1:27:39] of those little barriers out the way as
[1:27:41] we continue to build and put these
[1:27:44] pieces together so that's
[1:27:47] what okay Mr far yeah so being that uh
[1:27:51] that kind of talk Talking that topic
[1:27:54] um I know before you were here you
[1:27:56] talked about the possible uh possibility
[1:27:58] of I think de bundling um some of the
[1:28:01] larger contracts to give uh more uh mwbe
[1:28:05] contractors the opportunity um I would
[1:28:08] you know again have to put more work on
[1:28:10] you and I know working with the mayor's
[1:28:11] office I know something that he's been
[1:28:12] paying close attention to trying to
[1:28:15] figure out like what can we do um as a
[1:28:19] council because the frustration is one
[1:28:21] thing but what are the action steps that
[1:28:23] we can do um and then hopefully that
[1:28:26] you'll be able to present sort of a
[1:28:28] range of those action steps um because
[1:28:30] obviously our produ your responsibility
[1:28:32] to the city we also want to um make sure
[1:28:35] that anyone who's getting contracts from
[1:28:36] the city recog recognizes that there's a
[1:28:39] value that we place um um on uh hiring
[1:28:44] um mwbe and section 3 workers so maybe I think it would be helpful for um maybe
[1:28:52] producing a a range of actions that you
[1:28:56] know that are within our purview that
[1:28:58] can encourage the contractors um and
[1:29:00] anyone that we're doing build business
[1:29:02] with to help us meet those goals cuz I I
[1:29:04] it to me feels like there's some
[1:29:06] daylight between um the current
[1:29:09] situation some frustration here but then
[1:29:12] really like what are the ABS what can we
[1:29:14] do and if we're committed to that then
[1:29:16] you know I I cautiously optimistically
[1:29:19] speak on behalf of my colleagues that
[1:29:21] were willing to um take some actions
[1:29:24] obviously with the guidance of of the
[1:29:25] mayor's office and part yeah yeah to
[1:29:28] that to that point we do have a good
[1:29:31] plan in terms of participation and and
[1:29:34] goals and objectives and and it's very
[1:29:35] realistically and very well thought out
[1:29:38] I think one thing that will certainly
[1:29:41] help us with these hurdles if you will
[1:29:43] because we're dealing with a a broad
[1:29:45] range of issues but you know but but
[1:29:48] keeping it simple let's say that the bid
[1:29:50] comes in and we sit down at the table we
[1:29:52] open up the bid and there goal their
[1:29:55] objective don't meet you know what it's
[1:29:56] supposed to be we should be able to just
[1:29:59] at that point just stop it right there
[1:30:00] and then put it to the side they they
[1:30:02] didn't me the objective I mean we can
[1:30:03] get you know that you know black and
[1:30:05] white about it you know and obviously we
[1:30:07] have to manage that against the need
[1:30:10] that do we want to get the business want
[1:30:11] see project done and all that now
[1:30:14] there's a lot of the education component
[1:30:15] that sort of goes on with that too you
[1:30:17] know we also have to think about when we take this route do we have the
[1:30:21] capacity to fill all the things out
[1:30:24] there you know capacity is a big issue
[1:30:25] so let's say that the you know XYZ
[1:30:28] company says okay I'm going to give this
[1:30:30] to this contractor because we know that
[1:30:33] we got to meet this goal and the
[1:30:35] contract don't have a goal what are we
[1:30:36] going to do how are we going to support
[1:30:37] this contractor we've been trying to
[1:30:38] keep real with these contracts and say I
[1:30:41] know you're in business I know you want
[1:30:42] to do this but sometime you may not be
[1:30:44] ready for this do you understand the
[1:30:46] insurance requirements do you understand
[1:30:48] the finance commitment do you understand
[1:30:50] that when you go ahead and start this
[1:30:52] job the city is Con not to cut you a
[1:30:54] check up front so you can buy material
[1:30:56] do you understand you got to meet your
[1:30:57] payroll every week you have those
[1:30:59] resources and those are the realistic
[1:31:01] things that we have to do so we can do
[1:31:04] it and and I'm I'm I'm right here ready
[1:31:07] we had we had a plan we had a mechanism
[1:31:09] in place to you know make that happen
[1:31:11] but I think we can also think about in
[1:31:13] terms of how do we break these things
[1:31:15] down into small pieces where we can
[1:31:18] create opportuni for the Tyrone of the
[1:31:20] world for example Tyrone may not be able
[1:31:22] to pave all the streets out but he can
[1:31:24] certainly install window painting or do
[1:31:27] something else you know how can we build
[1:31:29] the capacity of that guy so that he can
[1:31:32] at some point be at a level where he'll
[1:31:34] have the capacity to do you know other
[1:31:37] type thing and hire and and and the
[1:31:39] truth be told is these small firms are
[1:31:42] the ones that's hiring our local
[1:31:43] Workforce it's not the big contractors
[1:31:46] out there that's got the big contract $0
[1:31:48] million when you look at the certified
[1:31:50] payroll those people that own that
[1:31:52] payroll is not in this 3051 12307
[1:31:55] they're not
[1:31:57] here okay so um you know we we've been
[1:32:01] trying to work up to that capacity but
[1:32:03] that's the conv we have to have we can
[1:32:04] certainly start at this T we open up the
[1:32:06] bid if the bid meet the objectives
[1:32:08] coming in you yes know we move to the
[1:32:11] side and keep it moving so that's that's
[1:32:12] one thing we can do and we can start
[1:32:14] also having conversation with the bids
[1:32:17] and you know Contracting engineer and
[1:32:18] everybody else but that's where that's
[1:32:21] where it started it starts here you know
[1:32:23] with us as family um you know no one
[1:32:26] Department can can do it no one person
[1:32:29] can do it but the we we can certain
[1:32:34] this Mr Williams just as a point at
[1:32:37] Clarity based on the U comments you just
[1:32:39] made I want to be careful and ensuring
[1:32:41] that we don't conflate the two
[1:32:42] conversations that we're that we're
[1:32:45] having at the moment I think if we're
[1:32:46] identifying if your efforts as the
[1:32:49] affirmative action officer uh how are
[1:32:51] they yielding to some of the the end
[1:32:54] users who kind of benefit from your
[1:32:56] actions I think from a council and I can
[1:32:58] only speak for myself tell us what more
[1:33:00] we have to do or what more we can do to
[1:33:02] ensure that these individuals uh
[1:33:04] continue to to to receive these
[1:33:06] resources these opportunities moving
[1:33:08] forward however if we are then looking
[1:33:10] at the separate conversation of uh
[1:33:13] funding your empowerment proposal for me
[1:33:16] myself personally you identifi a number
[1:33:18] of roles and responsibilities that I
[1:33:20] imagine you currently uh uh manage
[1:33:22] solely it is wanting to understand what
[1:33:25] team or additional resources you need
[1:33:27] because you Mr gner cannot be in
[1:33:29] multiple places at once no you know
[1:33:31] that's the point we do need you know
[1:33:33] more resources so if that's not going to
[1:33:35] be the case that Al has to be paired
[1:33:36] down and as I mentioned to several
[1:33:39] before you know I got put you know laser
[1:33:41] focus on what the task is in front of me
[1:33:43] know so we can't do everything to
[1:33:45] everybody and be effective but I do
[1:33:48] believe that in this Arena of creating
[1:33:51] an ecosystem or economic OPP OPP unities
[1:33:54] for everyone it's one thing to say okay
[1:33:56] we have opportunities for you we have a
[1:33:58] house for you or we have this for you
[1:34:00] but if you don't have the the resources
[1:34:02] or the expertise or whatever to pull all
[1:34:04] that together then we we're doing your
[1:34:08] disservice so we need to have that real
[1:34:10] conversation and say you do have to be
[1:34:12] prepared and those are some of the
[1:34:14] things that we do we have you know
[1:34:16] Workshop uh that we plan on on an
[1:34:18] ongoing basis where we have
[1:34:19] professionals come in the SBA the bank
[1:34:22] and tell you this is what you got to
[1:34:24] have to you know get the resources how
[1:34:26] do we make you bankable if you will and
[1:34:28] it's not just a matter going saying I
[1:34:30] got a contract or whatever you know to
[1:34:31] do it because ultimately it comes back
[1:34:33] to the same thing do you have the
[1:34:35] resources which mean do you have the
[1:34:36] money to get into this game and and and
[1:34:40] as a responsibility with a municipality
[1:34:42] you have a full plate on your hands in
[1:34:44] terms of dealing with you know power of
[1:34:47] it to make it happen so you know how do
[1:34:50] we how do we do it
[1:34:52] okay Mr F so just for clarity it's um it's looking
[1:34:58] like what how I'm understanding this is
[1:35:01] the council it would
[1:35:03] be beneficial and we can expect you to
[1:35:06] put together kind of a more revised um
[1:35:09] allocation of resources based on some of
[1:35:11] the things that you heard um tonight and
[1:35:13] maybe some more information that might
[1:35:15] come between you to in between time and
[1:35:17] also um maybe uh because in the second
[1:35:20] issue there's a lot of difference that
[1:35:21] has to be given to you because you are
[1:35:23] the expert in in this area and what we
[1:35:26] would really need is almost a a list of
[1:35:29] graduated interventions if you will um
[1:35:32] that we can look at and say okay this is
[1:35:34] something that we do have the capacity
[1:35:36] to do that um will uh get us closer to
[1:35:39] those goals and support our local
[1:35:40] economy and we can kind of scale up as
[1:35:42] we go maybe all scaffold it a little bit
[1:35:44] so those two different documents um
[1:35:48] would be really uh vital for us moving
[1:35:49] forward yeah there there's a lot in that
[1:35:51] alphabet suit and it's true true that it
[1:35:54] you know there's a lot on both sides of
[1:35:56] the C but but it's it's a huge massive
[1:35:59] issue you know it's a big problem and um
[1:36:02] and and I think the the key here is your
[1:36:05] role here as a counsel with the mayor
[1:36:07] sitting right there you know
[1:36:08] understanding this and helping us guide
[1:36:10] the process that's really the key
[1:36:12] because from over here where I sit it's
[1:36:13] just a matter of you know you're very
[1:36:16] limited I'm limited in terms of what I
[1:36:17] can do you know by state and federal law
[1:36:19] Limited in terms of what I can do within
[1:36:21] the comprise what I have to deal with
[1:36:22] here but this this is it you guys tell
[1:36:24] me you know what you want to do and we
[1:36:27] can um we can make it happen well you
[1:36:29] have to tell us what some of the possib
[1:36:30] I can do thank you
[1:36:34] absolutely any other questions comments
[1:36:36] from the
[1:36:37] council thank you Mr G we look forward
[1:36:39] to those to that information do
[1:36:41] appreciate it and thank you Miss
[1:36:48] car so we will now uh enter into our
[1:36:51] official
[1:36:52] agenda and start with our committee's
[1:36:54] finance thank you I would like to call
[1:36:56] the finance committee to order and the
[1:36:58] first item is to create a special
[1:37:00] assessment District on a portion of
[1:37:02] narch College Street we had a public
[1:37:04] hearing on 11th of March and I would ask
[1:37:08] Mr W to just give us a brief update on
[1:37:11] the project on on this project before we
[1:37:15] move forward in creating this um special
[1:37:18] assessment
[1:37:19] District so uh this project was created
[1:37:22] at the end of last year we are on to uh
[1:37:26] essentially 100% complete we're on the
[1:37:27] punch list just to make sure the Grass
[1:37:29] Grows and that the trees bloom in the
[1:37:31] spring um after we completed the project
[1:37:33] engineering put together as built
[1:37:35] drawings of all the properties
[1:37:36] calculated all of the additional costs
[1:37:39] associated with these projects this
[1:37:41] project was unique in that it was not
[1:37:43] only a $55 per lar foot but there was
[1:37:45] also some brick work and some other um
[1:37:48] lead walk items that were also added so
[1:37:51] we had to document and um classify all
[1:37:54] those once those were done and together
[1:37:56] it was sent to Lindsay uh in our
[1:37:58] receipts office so that we could get the
[1:38:00] numbers together for the assessment
[1:38:02] rules and then we called for public
[1:38:04] hearing so we had the public hearing uh
[1:38:06] the period is over and this is on the
[1:38:08] next step after this approval we will be
[1:38:11] sending out the assessments I think
[1:38:13] there are municipal vouchers to all the
[1:38:14] residents on the street for the the
[1:38:17] billing of the
[1:38:18] work
[1:38:22] questions
[1:38:24] so you have you have a a an ordinance in
[1:38:27] front of you so um any questions
[1:38:32] regarding seeting down I would like to
[1:38:34] ask a motion to create a special
[1:38:35] assessment district for a portion of Nar
[1:38:38] College
[1:38:38] Street um second all in favor I thank
[1:38:43] you and that the next item is the
[1:38:46] Central Park sideway Improvement project
[1:38:48] we had a public hearing on February 26th
[1:38:52] we held this for a couple weeks because
[1:38:53] there were some concern that was um sent
[1:38:56] to us and the engineering department Mr
[1:38:59] Walling addressed those and I think
[1:39:02] every ready to move forward based on the
[1:39:04] feedback you received from the
[1:39:06] residents and I ask Mr Walling to just
[1:39:10] us so we had
[1:39:16] a we had a public meeting uh out outside
[1:39:20] of council independent public meeting in
[1:39:22] City Hall um where the residents that
[1:39:25] did show uh unanimously agreed to keep
[1:39:28] the Street's character as is um so that
[1:39:30] would mean that allowing no parking on
[1:39:32] the street to keep the character of the
[1:39:34] road I.E the Landscaping um
[1:39:37] intact the public hearing was called
[1:39:40] that was actually in council chambers
[1:39:41] just like we were doing now at the
[1:39:43] public hearing um it was discussed that
[1:39:46] some wanted on street parking and were
[1:39:48] against the idea of no on street parking
[1:39:51] some even switched their vote voted for
[1:39:54] it to not um so to try in a way to come
[1:39:58] up with a hybrid solution that was not
[1:40:00] presented at either meeting uh we sat
[1:40:03] down and we looked at an option which
[1:40:04] you have in front of you which is to
[1:40:06] create a hybrid where I select on street
[1:40:10] parking is constructed that does not
[1:40:13] interfere with
[1:40:15] trees um so if you look on it wouldn't
[1:40:18] be on the cover page it would be on the
[1:40:19] second and third Pages you'll see bump
[1:40:22] out areas
[1:40:24] in between the alleys um these areas
[1:40:26] would affect um some some lawn but they
[1:40:30] would not affect any mature trees they
[1:40:32] are purposely constructed to not affect
[1:40:35] mature trees it also leaves the island
[1:40:38] as is and narrows the roadway so these
[1:40:41] areas are all within the right of way
[1:40:44] and would be created um I do not know
[1:40:47] what residents in front of these
[1:40:48] particular areas opinion would be but
[1:40:51] this was the Compromise that the engine
[1:40:53] and myself thought would be the least
[1:40:55] intrusive and get the best results would
[1:40:58] be to have these I believe the amount of
[1:41:00] parking spaces is nominal somewhere
[1:41:02] between 15 and 20 depending on the size
[1:41:04] of the vehicles but it does allow for
[1:41:07] parking in the areas where um you would
[1:41:09] have to go to the alley and the alley
[1:41:10] really isn't the most appropriate spot
[1:41:12] for a visitor or a delivery to come for
[1:41:15] parking so all of the bump house would
[1:41:17] be on the Alley side on yes they would
[1:41:19] only be on the Alley side because that's
[1:41:21] where we have flat space
[1:41:23] and we would be able to uh if we went
[1:41:25] with a bump out on the other side we
[1:41:27] start getting in the hills and it would
[1:41:29] be uh much more
[1:41:30] invasive so this is not a full product
[1:41:33] this is just an idea to allow to have
[1:41:35] some on street parking uh specifically I
[1:41:38] think a couple people who ask for on
[1:41:39] street parking are right in this area so
[1:41:42] they would be able to have on street
[1:41:43] parking Mr M yeah I think most of most
[1:41:46] of the the people who are asking parking
[1:41:48] was on the side where the alley is
[1:41:50] because if you were to put it on the
[1:41:51] other side people have driveways um
[1:41:53] that's how side here and you'll see that
[1:41:54] it's only between the alleys we do not
[1:41:57] continue it because once you get past
[1:41:58] the alley towards the Rose Garden that
[1:42:01] side then does pick up and have their
[1:42:02] own driveways oh okay so we're we're
[1:42:05] talking about
[1:42:06] 19 give or take give or take we don't we
[1:42:09] don't mark them so if you have a lot of
[1:42:11] small cars get more than 19 but that's
[1:42:13] one of the reasons that you you don't
[1:42:14] anymore Mark what they call them T's and
[1:42:16] L's we got rid of that because uh
[1:42:18] vehicles are all different sizes um so
[1:42:21] you want to make sure that you can fit
[1:42:22] as many vehicles in
[1:42:24] all right open up for questions on
[1:42:26] this go ahead please I just to make a
[1:42:29] comment I think this definitely is uh
[1:42:31] reflect over the work of your office so
[1:42:33] definitely I I I appreciate it as a
[1:42:35] member of the council you take the
[1:42:36] additional time to evaluate other
[1:42:38] options and also kind of re-evaluate how
[1:42:40] to meet some of the concerns of
[1:42:42] individuals that may or may not have
[1:42:45] brought their attentions to the meeting
[1:42:47] but also kind of changed based on other
[1:42:48] conversations that they have uh but
[1:42:50] definitely excited um to to see this
[1:42:52] performance so thank
[1:42:56] you go ahead please just quickly so
[1:42:59] definitely again kudos for being
[1:43:01] responsive to uh the needs of the
[1:43:03] citizens of the city I just a question
[1:43:06] um is it like kind of a ballpark on how
[1:43:09] this cost look different than the
[1:43:12] original scope that we talked about no I
[1:43:14] mean the Scopes that we talked about
[1:43:16] there were so inclusive me we had one
[1:43:17] that was around 900,000 all the way up
[1:43:19] to 1.3 I know there was a conversation
[1:43:21] about really is it only 300,000 I don't
[1:43:23] think this will have a a really drastic
[1:43:25] effect on on anything we're going to be
[1:43:27] narrowing a little bit the roadway this
[1:43:29] still has the roadway going from 15 to
[1:43:31] 13 we really feel that we'd like to
[1:43:33] leave it at 13 a typical Lane is 11 so
[1:43:36] you're still 2 ft larger than the
[1:43:38] typical 15 it's a big Lane and the thing
[1:43:41] that we're going to focus on now if we
[1:43:43] go we really want to focus on the
[1:43:44] turnaround areas make sure they're
[1:43:46] adequately size for the turnaround
[1:43:49] so also we talked about um I know there
[1:43:52] was some discussion around like maybe
[1:43:54] like some striping and things I know
[1:43:56] narrowing it down obviously for to deter
[1:43:58] you know people from speeding as as do
[1:44:01] the striping would that still even be
[1:44:03] possible even NE what we would do is we
[1:44:05] would just strike one white line uh to
[1:44:07] delineate where the where the parking
[1:44:09] areas are and when you hit that it would
[1:44:11] make it feel more narrow we are still
[1:44:13] also looking at replacing the lighting
[1:44:15] on the corridor with new LED lighting
[1:44:17] but the lighting would be essentially in
[1:44:18] the same location thank
[1:44:22] you thank you Chris I I like that whole
[1:44:24] idea right trying to help make everyone
[1:44:27] happy um what kind of footage would it
[1:44:31] take from the residents on that alley
[1:44:33] side would it take some of their Green
[1:44:36] Space away in between their those bump
[1:44:39] outs with the bump outs if we do that no
[1:44:43] I I don't you talking about would it
[1:44:44] take the Island area away not the island
[1:44:47] lawn their lawn that's in yes yeah I
[1:44:50] think you can see there will be a little
[1:44:52] impact to some of the lawn yeah and you
[1:44:53] can see you can see on the second page
[1:44:56] on the top of it know there's a couple
[1:44:57] of bushes that we would like to relocate
[1:44:59] we're really going to try to see if we
[1:45:00] can actually replant them back so there
[1:45:02] is not I mean you're probably going if
[1:45:05] I'm looking at that sidewalks 5 ft so
[1:45:06] you're 5 ft back from the back of the
[1:45:09] sidewalk 5 ft to get in so there is an
[1:45:11] impact so that's where you know not
[1:45:13] everyone is going to be you know pleased
[1:45:15] but we are just trying to keep some of
[1:45:17] the the better treat if somebody wanted
[1:45:18] to say that there was a dead tree and
[1:45:19] they wanted to move it and wanted
[1:45:20] parking we could always extend it but
[1:45:23] you know after our first meeting the
[1:45:25] number one takeaway was preserve the
[1:45:27] character and integrity of the street VI
[1:45:30] the landscaping and it's the whole
[1:45:32] street is in tree line with very mature
[1:45:34] trees so we couldn't fit in these
[1:45:37] Pockets
[1:45:40] question I guess my next question is so
[1:45:42] what happens now does it go back to
[1:45:46] that's an excellent
[1:45:47] question I if if I'm directed to go
[1:45:49] forward with option D then I'm going to
[1:45:51] go forward with option D and that's what
[1:45:54] uh so once we have I have a go from the
[1:45:55] council we'll start putting this into in
[1:45:57] action but I don't know about the next
[1:46:00] public
[1:46:01] step um um Madam president Mr chairman I
[1:46:05] mean it's really up to the council what
[1:46:07] you want to do at this point based on
[1:46:09] that the revisions that have been
[1:46:11] prevent presented to you if you feel
[1:46:13] that they sufficiently address the
[1:46:15] concerns that were made as a public
[1:46:16] hearing um you can AFF because the the document has addressed those
[1:46:22] concerns if you feel that you feel that
[1:46:25] this is a little bit more different or a
[1:46:29] little bit different from the original
[1:46:31] plan then you can call for an additional
[1:46:34] public hearing on the the revised plan
[1:46:37] and that would just put off the the uh
[1:46:39] the ordinance but it would also put off
[1:46:40] the project for you know
[1:46:43] for probably four four weeks I'm
[1:46:46] thinking because of the U cycle if you
[1:46:49] had a public
[1:46:50] heing you could uh put it off for a
[1:46:53] couple of weeks and maybe at that next
[1:46:56] council meeting at the public hearing
[1:46:58] after you hear it all at that point you
[1:47:00] may decide to uh do final adoption at
[1:47:04] that point so you could put it off for
[1:47:06] two weeks if you wish and just have the
[1:47:09] hearing and that the same evening you feel that sufficient everything is
[1:47:14] sufficiently addressed then you can
[1:47:16] adopt the ordinance at that evening and
[1:47:19] then it moves forward things forward the
[1:47:22] a bit more but it's it's really up to
[1:47:25] you if you feel that this is a uh within
[1:47:27] the general scope where you want to give
[1:47:29] more public uh input that's that's all
[1:47:32] up to you but you could do it like I
[1:47:35] said you if you want to have a public
[1:47:36] hearing two weeks and then that evening
[1:47:39] you could decide to move it if you feel
[1:47:42] that everything's addressed yeah to to
[1:47:45] address that I mean we had the public
[1:47:46] hearing and many concern that was raised
[1:47:48] and the letter the emails that was
[1:47:50] submitted um one of the most important
[1:47:52] part of will be addressing the parking
[1:47:54] which was loud and clear so I think
[1:47:56] that's the only change here and I think
[1:47:58] uh majority is in in agreement in terms
[1:48:01] of providing parking wheel on that very
[1:48:04] same side so I I don't think it's a
[1:48:06] major change to that it's change based
[1:48:08] and what was recommended to the
[1:48:11] engineering department to us for this
[1:48:13] project to move
[1:48:15] forward go ahead please yeah um I agree
[1:48:18] with you that because I actually
[1:48:20] attended a meeting where they said this
[1:48:21] is part of it um
[1:48:23] so we've made the changes however I
[1:48:25] think it's also important that we inform
[1:48:26] people that this is a change as opposed
[1:48:28] to just moving ahead with it so to do
[1:48:30] what has been um suggested by Mr O'Brien
[1:48:33] the two weeks as opposed to this
[1:48:35] extended public heing process to do the
[1:48:37] two weeks um put the information out
[1:48:39] there that this is what the change is
[1:48:41] going to be and again I think it's going
[1:48:42] to make some people happy but I'm always
[1:48:44] a proponent of informing people and
[1:48:46] making people know and being inclusive
[1:48:49] rather than when the bulldozers show up
[1:48:51] so I I'm I'm in favor of waiting the two
[1:48:53] weeks and approving it that night and
[1:48:55] then moving forward this information is
[1:48:57] actually
[1:48:58] out sharing between the res the home
[1:49:01] owners there you've already started put
[1:49:03] yes I I shared it up I did not yes all
[1:49:06] right so I think we so they have access
[1:49:08] to this right so I think we still go
[1:49:10] with that the the the hearing the public
[1:49:12] hearing two weeks and then move forward
[1:49:14] as opposed to not you me that we did
[1:49:17] make some changes so just want to um on
[1:49:20] the end up on the right side of this two
[1:49:23] more weeks is it going to be we can
[1:49:25] start you know getting some of the other
[1:49:27] things together come up really need that
[1:49:31] it's up up to you it's up to the council
[1:49:33] it's what you feel I mean I it's up to
[1:49:36] the members go ahead I would have to to
[1:49:39] agree with um Miss Porterfield I think
[1:49:42] it was highlighted that not everyone is
[1:49:44] going to agree um but very much these
[1:49:47] are uh changes that these individuals
[1:49:50] Within These households where some Point
[1:49:53] uh they're going to have that bump in
[1:49:56] that is going to be a change they're
[1:49:57] going to have to live with for as long
[1:49:58] as their residents in that that that location uh so although uh I'm
[1:50:02] confident that these take into
[1:50:03] consideration a lot of the concerns that
[1:50:05] were uh uh given to the council I I
[1:50:08] again think it is important for us to be
[1:50:10] transparent and um and making sure we
[1:50:13] have the opportunity for people to to
[1:50:16] voice their opinion should they have
[1:50:17] them um but again if there's not going
[1:50:19] to be a significant disruption in the
[1:50:21] project which you're saying we won't
[1:50:23] I think it it is something that we
[1:50:25] should take advantage
[1:50:28] of and I think that's what Mr Walling
[1:50:31] address there is not a significant
[1:50:32] impact on this project by putting this
[1:50:34] parking there on that side and majority
[1:50:37] of the resident wanted that parking on
[1:50:39] that side based on the competition we'll
[1:50:41] be having back and
[1:50:45] forth any goad please but I would say
[1:50:48] what is your confidence in the
[1:50:49] distribution means for getting people
[1:50:51] that information cuz I would let's say
[1:50:52] it is even lacking one I would tell you
[1:50:55] if I didn't hear that and there was an
[1:50:56] individual who came before the council
[1:50:58] and said I wasn't aware of the
[1:51:00] information I think definitely making
[1:51:01] sure there's opportunities for everyone
[1:51:03] to ensure the information is is received
[1:51:06] in a timely manner and then again I just
[1:51:07] want to point out the two weeks is not
[1:51:09] at a cost to the
[1:51:12] project any other discussion go ahead
[1:51:15] please U I'm just and I'm willing to do
[1:51:17] what we did before is to actually unless
[1:51:19] you've already done it to the entire
[1:51:20] Street I know it took us like maybe an
[1:51:22] hour when we did it collectively to walk
[1:51:24] again with this new plan and you know
[1:51:27] just give it to everyone so they could
[1:51:29] have it in front of
[1:51:31] them I I just like always to air on the
[1:51:33] side of safety caution any other
[1:51:38] discussion s we then hold this because
[1:51:41] we it doesn't seem we can move power so
[1:51:43] we'll hold this for two weeks don't we
[1:51:46] have to um sorry do we have to call you
[1:51:48] can have a resolution for public hearing
[1:51:51] final consideration at the same time
[1:51:55] okay
[1:51:56] have two motions or one a resolution
[1:52:00] calling for a public hearing on the
[1:52:02] concept D for this Central Parkway
[1:52:06] sidewalk inclement
[1:52:08] program
[1:52:10] y thank
[1:52:13] you second all in favor I and then final
[1:52:17] consideration the
[1:52:19] ordinance a motion to consider and
[1:52:23] that's that will be final consideration
[1:52:25] when you put the do the uh the agenda
[1:52:28] together for that evening it will be
[1:52:30] mark his final consideration unless you
[1:52:33] hear something at that public hearing
[1:52:34] then you can always pull it but the
[1:52:37] ordinance that's already been posted
[1:52:40] would be voted on that same night okay any other business for finance
[1:52:45] excuse me I just want to be clear do we
[1:52:47] need another motion for that one or no
[1:52:48] Mr because cons the ordinance is already
[1:52:51] there
[1:52:53] any other business over Finance I just
[1:52:55] want to thank Mr wall for the work and
[1:52:56] for L for I know this has been a long
[1:52:59] process I was looking at my documents
[1:53:01] from
[1:53:01] 2021 so I'm glad to say in 2024 that
[1:53:04] project is actually moving forward so
[1:53:06] thank you for all your work on this and
[1:53:08] I hope all the residents are
[1:53:10] happy on the
[1:53:12] same any other business for finance
[1:53:15] motion to ad so move second all in favor
[1:53:18] I I thank you I'd like to call the word
[1:53:20] of the Public Safety Committee we have
[1:53:22] one item on the agenda tonight that is a
[1:53:24] review of the Amendments of the city
[1:53:26] code section uh Chapter 93 section 6
[1:53:29] entitled civilian police review board to
[1:53:31] modify the manner of appointing
[1:53:32] vacancies to the civilian police review
[1:53:34] board uh we had a public hearing uh last
[1:53:37] week and i' would like to turn over to
[1:53:39] Mr Brian M uh Mr chairman if there's no
[1:53:42] amendments to or or markups uh to the
[1:53:45] proposed legislation we can move that on
[1:53:47] for final consideration next Monday
[1:53:51] night were there any other comments
[1:53:53] questions from the mayor the one thing I
[1:53:58] noticed originally said the connect
[1:54:01] chamber connected chamber doesn't exist
[1:54:04] anymore ised into the capital uh region
[1:54:08] Chamber so it's just to change
[1:54:11] that um one word is in terms of a
[1:54:14] recommending group okay since it's in
[1:54:18] keeping with the it's a housekeeping
[1:54:21] type Amendment mhm um you don't need
[1:54:24] another public Hearing in on it because
[1:54:26] it's just reflecting the change of that
[1:54:28] particular organization but if there's
[1:54:30] no change into the proposed text as far
[1:54:34] as the appointment is concerned then uh
[1:54:37] we can go forward and I'll make
[1:54:39] a Amendment to the to the proposed
[1:54:42] ordinance correcting that one U
[1:54:46] oranization
[1:54:47] name any other questions or
[1:54:50] comments uh hearing know hearing none
[1:54:52] may I have a motion uh to proceed with
[1:54:55] the amendment from the
[1:54:58] mayor second all in favor are there any
[1:55:01] other items toall Public Safety feing
[1:55:03] none may have motion for Jour
[1:55:06] second all in favor
[1:55:09] say I'd like to call order City
[1:55:12] development and planning we have 13
[1:55:14] items on the agenda uh the first one is
[1:55:17] to follow up ARA Miss
[1:55:21] Carver
[1:55:29] hello again
[1:55:33] hell good evening again since we last
[1:55:37] met the Coco house contract has been
[1:55:40] signed by the mayor and it's a waiting
[1:55:43] signature from Coco house
[1:55:45] administrators bcni Hamilton Hill
[1:55:48] contract is still pending the mayor's
[1:55:51] review
[1:55:54] uh the Electric City Co-Op um as they
[1:55:57] said in their presentations they're
[1:55:59] still missing site and some of the
[1:56:01] documents to prove the leverage funding
[1:56:03] so that's
[1:56:05] pending
[1:56:07] the additional updates that I have for
[1:56:10] you are just up for discussion the
[1:56:13] YWCA um this connected Little League
[1:56:16] which Chris Wallen is going to talk
[1:56:18] about and I also noted on the documents
[1:56:21] the Community Foundation um weed the
[1:56:25] organizational chart and itemized Budget
[1:56:27] on 311 heard the request of councel and
[1:56:29] the mayor um on 314 we requested an
[1:56:32] updated budget to include The Fringe
[1:56:35] benefit so we're still awaiting those
[1:56:37] supporting
[1:56:38] documents is there any other groups out
[1:56:40] El there are no other groups everybody
[1:56:42] else is in
[1:56:45] contract I
[1:56:47] know missing lights the tunnel um so be
[1:56:51] see
[1:56:53] mayie so um well YWCA is already on
[1:56:57] there so did you want Mr W to speak to
[1:56:59] the Oregon Avenue I I'll do the YMCA
[1:57:02] first so the YCA YW by themselves
[1:57:06] separate okay s okay M
[1:57:19] yeah pools Little League tennis golf
[1:57:22] what do we got it's like a country club
[1:57:25] here so why uh literally this is what
[1:57:28] we're talking about I got an email
[1:57:29] ordered to me the email was succinct it
[1:57:33] had a list of priorities with
[1:57:35] anticipated budgets and I assigned uh
[1:57:37] one of our Engineers to start getting
[1:57:39] pricing for it so we're going to attack
[1:57:41] it just as a peace meal um fencing contractor roof roofing
[1:57:45] contractor lighting electrician uh I
[1:57:48] think it'll just be too difficult to do
[1:57:51] one giant bid with all these things in
[1:57:53] it because the costs are too small um so
[1:57:56] it'll be very similar to what was done
[1:57:57] on Michigan Avenue which was a wall we
[1:58:00] went with someone who built walls so
[1:58:02] we're going to get uh the fencing will
[1:58:04] be a little complicated just because it
[1:58:05] require a bid uh over
[1:58:08] $35,000 so we are going to put together
[1:58:10] some um drawings and put out a fencing
[1:58:13] bid for that uh and then the other three
[1:58:15] will be able to get pricing for because
[1:58:17] they're all under $35,000 so then we'll
[1:58:20] start getting close from that that from
[1:58:22] some of our local vendors that we use I
[1:58:25] can work with Ron Gardner on that to see
[1:58:27] uh what contractors he would recommend
[1:58:29] so that we could try to get it so the
[1:58:31] but the list was pretty detailed which
[1:58:33] is what we needed and it all had cost
[1:58:35] estimates and it was signed by the board
[1:58:37] so that is pretty much exactly what we
[1:58:39] needed to go forward so how much money
[1:58:42] are we working with well right now we're
[1:58:44] working with
[1:58:45] $175,000 uh which is enough to complete
[1:58:48] what they have the only project that
[1:58:51] could be ass slope is they want to
[1:58:53] reinstate the Back Field which is a
[1:58:56] lower field that was abandoned several
[1:58:58] years ago reinstating that um it could
[1:59:01] just be as simple as brush hogging
[1:59:03] mowing getting it down cleaning it out
[1:59:05] but it also could be more involved
[1:59:06] depending on how we get it so we're
[1:59:08] going to focus on the existing fields
[1:59:10] and getting them up uh the scoreboard
[1:59:12] the roofs and uh and then and go from
[1:59:15] there so we'll do what we can do for the
[1:59:17] 175 and then look at weting the back
[1:59:20] field and what the cost would be and
[1:59:22] Paul had been talking with them to see
[1:59:23] what our inhouse abilities were with
[1:59:25] that but that's I'm going to try to do
[1:59:27] the other ones that are just to get
[1:59:29] something going cuz I know that they
[1:59:30] feel like they've been slided so we want
[1:59:32] to get that moving some time for uh for
[1:59:35] the season that's the other complicated
[1:59:37] is where we have a hole in the season
[1:59:38] because baseball season is starting um
[1:59:41] it might be uh you know we might not be
[1:59:43] able to tackle it in the spring but
[1:59:44] sometimes in the summer there is a
[1:59:45] little bit of a gap in August usually uh
[1:59:48] when you everybody stops playing
[1:59:50] baseball so that might be the window
[1:59:51] that we
[1:59:52] for questions comments
[1:59:55] concerns any no all right well thank you
[1:59:59] very much I know that people are going
[2:00:00] to be happy
[2:00:05] yep any questions for me so I don't know
[2:00:09] why sorry city council I'm you better stay here with me um so
[2:00:16] that was the the followup on the ARA
[2:00:18] nobody no questions on the Coco house
[2:00:20] bcni is in the mayor um we heard about
[2:00:22] the little Le um that's it for the
[2:00:25] follow up and you talk about jury and
[2:00:27] we're waiting for those documents so we
[2:00:28] have all that anybody got questions
[2:00:30] about that part of it okay cuz now we're
[2:00:32] going to move on to item number two the
[2:00:34] YWCA Harbor house so I'm bringing this
[2:00:38] um as a revisit the last meeting there
[2:00:41] was not a decision made on lessening The
[2:00:43] Leverage amount requested so I'm asking
[2:00:45] city council to consider that tonight
[2:00:48] they ask they roughly have a $7 million
[2:00:51] mat $20 million um match and they're
[2:00:54] asking it to be moved to 7
[2:00:56] million so as everyone recalls at the
[2:00:59] last meeting they did presentation I
[2:01:01] think we were all in agreement that we
[2:01:02] would move ahead with that but um it we
[2:01:05] didn't bring it into committee to to Dev
[2:01:07] vote it through so that's what we're
[2:01:08] doing at this point to bring it back to
[2:01:11] the committee so that we can vote it
[2:01:12] through to lessen their leverage
[2:01:15] amount any
[2:01:19] questions I'll second it I'll favor I I
[2:01:23] thank you thank you Miss far thank
[2:01:26] you uh the next one is the to award
[2:01:30] bidden contract for the 2024
[2:01:32] HB Paul had a leave so I saw him
[2:01:36] disappearing so I was like I didn't know
[2:01:37] it was going to pitch it council
[2:01:39] president mayor city council uh in
[2:01:42] keeping with the city's purchasing
[2:01:44] policy this the city disc connect went
[2:01:46] out the bid for HVAC companies to uh
[2:01:50] provide uh maintenance uh all the city
[2:01:53] uh buildings all the police stations the
[2:01:55] fire stations uh Bureau service City
[2:01:58] Hall and all service stations this is
[2:02:00] kind of like getting a a retainer for uh
[2:02:02] so that we're on top of the list so we
[2:02:04] have a call that come in U uh come in uh
[2:02:08] and uh fix whatever problem we have um
[2:02:11] there was uh I believe five different
[2:02:13] bids and uh this was all put up when I
[2:02:16] by our purchasing agent and uh you can
[2:02:18] see our uh uh lowest bid was uh eords
[2:02:22] uh with the the the different uh hourly
[2:02:25] rates uh for you know daily 8 to four
[2:02:28] nights and the weekends uh looks like
[2:02:30] we're going to be a pretty bunch of good
[2:02:32] savings it's an option it's a one-year
[2:02:34] contract with a option for two years if
[2:02:37] they do well um e the company had they'
[2:02:39] done other jobs for the city especially
[2:02:42] some of the big jobs like the wastewater
[2:02:43] treatment plant uh uh North First Street
[2:02:47] Pump Station and other things so we know
[2:02:48] that they're a repal company uh so uh
[2:02:51] this is a a money saving project and
[2:02:53] we're hoping uh you guys pass this for
[2:02:56] us any questions
[2:03:00] concerns and motion so Mo second all in
[2:03:03] favor thank you very much thank you Mr
[2:03:06] fer
[2:03:07] Ferrari um so next we have um a
[2:03:11] ceremonial resolution recognizing syia
[2:03:13] Jon for her service to excuse me I'm
[2:03:15] sorry next item is appointment to the uh
[2:03:17] Board of assessment
[2:03:19] review um I think all us may have gotten
[2:03:22] the email that there was first of all
[2:03:25] there was a a person that left the move from the city and uh so therefore
[2:03:30] was no longer a member of the board of
[2:03:32] assessment review and uh
[2:03:36] then I there's an individual who has put
[2:03:38] who I'm Who I'm putting forward this um
[2:03:40] with this person actually would put
[2:03:42] their name forward when the last person
[2:03:44] actually the person who just left um was
[2:03:47] putting the name both names were up so
[2:03:49] um we know that we're going
[2:03:52] in May going to um begin to start doing
[2:03:55] the U review of the property of
[2:03:57] Assessments and so it's important that
[2:04:00] we have uh someone in that seat so I'm
[2:04:02] recommending Renee Bradley to uh be
[2:04:05] appointed as a member of the board of
[2:04:07] assessment
[2:04:10] review any questions comments or
[2:04:15] concerns yes she had uh she had a most
[2:04:19] definitely a most impressive uh resume
[2:04:24] um my question is so I personally didn't
[2:04:28] know that that the spot was was open
[2:04:31] should we is there time to let other
[2:04:34] individuals submit
[2:04:36] names well um when we sent out the um
[2:04:39] thing on the ethics he came back and
[2:04:41] said so everyone got that email that
[2:04:43] said I'm no longer this person I'm no
[2:04:45] longer on the board so everyone did
[2:04:46] receive that yes we did so what I'm
[2:04:50] saying is
[2:04:53] we knew there was opening we the time is
[2:04:54] of the essence right and again I'm you
[2:04:57] know it's open for discussion but this
[2:04:59] is an indidual that wanted to be on when
[2:05:00] the previous person um left do you have
[2:05:02] an objection to this individual I do not
[2:05:05] oh just asking if there's time to
[2:05:08] suggest other individuals at this time I
[2:05:11] would say with the time constraint we
[2:05:13] should have move forward because whoever
[2:05:14] gets chosen has to also be
[2:05:16] trained do
[2:05:18] that coming
[2:05:20] up
[2:05:23] any other discussion or
[2:05:26] concerns yes just just to clarify this
[2:05:28] for the fiveyear term that's not this is
[2:05:30] not it was an expired term yes it was it
[2:05:34] would be the full fiveyear term yes
[2:05:36] because he he he didn't expire his term
[2:05:40] expired and then then he also moved we
[2:05:42] got something saying they were going to
[2:05:44] reappoint him but then when he answered
[2:05:46] his ethics um email he's like can't
[2:05:49] reappoint me I don't live here okay I'll
[2:05:51] be five okay yes thank
[2:05:56] you in that case I'll ask for a motion
[2:05:58] so I'll second all in
[2:06:02] favor okay the next one is a ceremony
[2:06:05] resolution for Sylvia jimon for her
[2:06:07] service to the city of SKC um as you may
[2:06:11] you probably all got the invitation that
[2:06:13] Mr Jon is no longer um is going to be
[2:06:16] retired her last day is like I don't
[2:06:17] know towards the end of the month 28th
[2:06:19] there there's a party for her
[2:06:22] and uh so as we kind of learned from Mr
[2:06:25] Griffin that generally when things
[2:06:27] happen there isn't art resolution so
[2:06:29] we're going to we know better now we're
[2:06:31] going to do better so we'd like to do
[2:06:33] resolution for Miss jimon for her
[2:06:34] service to the city of skak today any
[2:06:38] questions and motion Mo I'll second all
[2:06:41] in favor I thank you um the next one is
[2:06:45] um ceremony resolution for Pearl suer
[2:06:48] Hunter um some may know some may not uh
[2:06:51] woman does a lot of community service to
[2:06:53] the community she worked at sium she
[2:06:55] currently has a clothing closet so um I
[2:06:59] um wanted to do this just simply she's um observing a milestone birthday
[2:07:05] and um I think that it's always
[2:07:06] important when we you know call people
[2:07:08] out for the work that they do to the
[2:07:09] community and I encourage other council
[2:07:11] members to um to do this as well um it's
[2:07:14] often that we people get recognized as
[2:07:17] people that everybody knows this is
[2:07:19] somebody that many people know but maybe
[2:07:21] not everyone know so I was thinking
[2:07:22] about something and we'll do something
[2:07:24] as side about doing something called
[2:07:25] heral of the community kind of
[2:07:26] recognition every so often but that's
[2:07:28] just me and um how I just like to
[2:07:31] support people so uh but at this time
[2:07:33] I'd like to put forth a resolution for
[2:07:34] Miss tuer
[2:07:36] Hunter any questions or concerns or or
[2:07:39] questions about uh her that I can
[2:07:43] answer all right she all around the
[2:07:45] person that's my answer and St a motion
[2:07:48] so both second all in favor hi um and
[2:07:52] then next one is a ceremony resolution
[2:07:54] recognizing Holly pagwa the Hindu Spring
[2:07:57] Festival Mr muu Baron yeah thank you um
[2:08:00] once again we're asking I'm requesting
[2:08:02] CR to recognize um the Hindu Spring
[2:08:05] Festival we have done this over the last
[2:08:07] several years and we're here once again
[2:08:09] I'm asking for this
[2:08:11] recognition right so Mr M are they going
[2:08:14] to come and dance and do anything for us
[2:08:16] I will get back to you we had the iris
[2:08:20] dances so you know just just
[2:08:24] I'm not in that capacity to say
[2:08:28] that yes I just wanted to welcome Mr M
[2:08:31] and if he wanted to dance for us you can
[2:08:33] definitely we extend that invitation to
[2:08:35] you as well we would like to have our
[2:08:37] city
[2:08:39] come I'll motion so second all in
[2:08:44] favor all right we do
[2:08:48] um I'm kind of trying to like stay with
[2:08:50] the ARP stuff so I kind kind of want to
[2:08:51] bring in if we're going to move forward
[2:08:54] on any of the discussion that we took
[2:08:55] place so I'd like to move that right
[2:08:58] here we um heard from the electricity
[2:09:00] Co-op and we heard from Harver and we
[2:09:02] know with the Empowerment Center there's
[2:09:04] more information that's going to be
[2:09:05] needed before anything can be done so
[2:09:07] this point in time I'd like to discuss
[2:09:10] the two uh presentations that we heard
[2:09:13] and what their requests are and what are
[2:09:16] um what we want to do with that we don't
[2:09:18] want to make the same have the same
[2:09:19] thing happen with that happened with the
[2:09:21] YW where it slipped through the crack so
[2:09:23] at this point in time like to um have
[2:09:25] those things develop discussed on the
[2:09:27] city development and planning and
[2:09:29] whether or not we're going to move
[2:09:30] forward with the asks from those
[2:09:33] groups so
[2:09:35] discussion yes Mr T at this point uh in
[2:09:39] time hearing everything this evening I'm
[2:09:42] not prepared to act on on anything at
[2:09:45] this point um I'd like more time to
[2:09:47] digest what I heard I took all kinds of
[2:09:49] notes so um I'm really not ready tonight
[2:09:52] to speak on
[2:09:55] that so
[2:09:58] um I'm sorry for E either one or either
[2:10:02] one absolutely
[2:10:04] yeah any
[2:10:07] other's go Mr Williams well essentially
[2:10:11] what that does for the Electric City
[2:10:13] Co-Op is that is giving them an
[2:10:14] extension like although we're not
[2:10:16] calling it that by delaying the
[2:10:17] conversation however for the Carver
[2:10:20] Community um Center it is is at the
[2:10:22] expense of their efforts because they're
[2:10:23] not able to proceed forward without a
[2:10:25] determination from the council that's
[2:10:26] what I understood is that correct I
[2:10:29] understood that as well so um let's take
[2:10:32] them one at a time so let's start with
[2:10:33] the Electric City Food Co-op so you're saying that you're not you don't
[2:10:37] feel like you have enough information to
[2:10:38] ask for to I have a lot of information
[2:10:41] that they provided this evening but um
[2:10:43] there's you know I just listen to what
[2:10:47] the other council members have to say
[2:10:48] this evening regarding so there asking
[2:10:51] for a six-month extension and you're not comfortable um at giving well
[2:10:56] they're also asking to um their their um
[2:11:00] lower their match lower their match um
[2:11:04] uh they were asking for 6 months he was
[2:11:07] willing to go to 5 months um you were
[2:11:09] thinking more 3 months I think so again
[2:11:12] there's just a lot that I'm not ready
[2:11:16] to to discuss at to discuss at this
[2:11:19] point any other C is your is your hand
[2:11:22] up is your pen moving around so I I'll
[2:11:25] take the opportunity to say well I as
[2:11:27] far as Electric City Co-Op I def I can
[2:11:30] understand some of the concerns that
[2:11:31] Council m detor is bringing forth I
[2:11:33] think that based on you know um I I
[2:11:36] think what they're asking for is pretty
[2:11:38] much just an extension um and that
[2:11:41] extension still would provide us um time
[2:11:44] if we had the real funds as well as the
[2:11:46] fact that um in in lowering their match
[2:11:49] which I I think um you know know we just
[2:11:52] did with the with the why um because we
[2:11:55] understand that that was just was was a
[2:11:57] bit drastic so I think that would just I
[2:11:59] would personally I'm I'm prepared to
[2:12:01] support um them and and both their ask
[2:12:04] tonight personally but I understand if
[2:12:06] any council members have any other
[2:12:12] reservations sorry I'm
[2:12:14] sorry Coop I mean we had the opportunity
[2:12:17] to listen from their membership we also
[2:12:20] had the opportunity to listen from from
[2:12:21] Metro flights and they kind of like the
[2:12:23] timeline in terms of how much more time
[2:12:26] they
[2:12:27] needed um to move this forward to get
[2:12:30] the lease agreement in place I think
[2:12:33] they at that
[2:12:34] point where they need some more time
[2:12:36] just to get that people working and
[2:12:40] executed I mean I have listen to both
[2:12:43] sides and I am willing to support a 4mth
[2:12:48] extension okay based on information I
[2:12:50] received some Metroplex um commitment
[2:12:54] that this is going to happen within you
[2:12:56] know 3 to 4 months
[2:12:59] or so I'm willing to support that an
[2:13:02] extension of four months four months
[2:13:05] okay um I I I would support that as well
[2:13:09] it's it's not the six months they asked
[2:13:10] for but as you heard me say to them that
[2:13:12] we don't have a lot of time and if this
[2:13:14] can't happen then we would just have to
[2:13:16] we' have to bring that money back and
[2:13:17] there's Mr Ferrari looking like waiting
[2:13:20] um for any money that's coming back
[2:13:23] water so uh I I also am willing to um to
[2:13:28] give them the the 4month
[2:13:30] extension and um the other part of it is
[2:13:34] uh lowering the match but we' have to
[2:13:37] make sure that we're comfortable with
[2:13:38] that as
[2:13:39] well Mr Williams I would say my only
[2:13:42] response to that is that they were very
[2:13:44] clear in that that they would were
[2:13:46] asking for the five months and then
[2:13:48] worrying whether that was um enough time
[2:13:51] to proceed with the uh site plans or
[2:13:54] site discussions I I would like to say
[2:13:57] like I I don't take lightly having
[2:13:58] represented from Metroplex here and
[2:14:01] seemed like they're very confident in
[2:14:02] where the project was and then also
[2:14:04] understanding of the timelines that
[2:14:05] we're against so I very much appreciated
[2:14:07] the the risk and and benefit timet taes
[2:14:10] that were both there but I was not in
[2:14:12] favor of the 6 months I think and and
[2:14:15] what seems to be the common theme but to
[2:14:17] me it definitely seemed apparent that 5
[2:14:19] months was was the the minimum
[2:14:22] time just to be clear U Mr CC did say
[2:14:26] four did he yes he
[2:14:30] did is there something you want to add
[2:14:33] to
[2:14:34] this just don't
[2:14:37] drag not familiar with the project
[2:14:40] question um so you're yes Mr Toro um
[2:14:44] Eric Johnson did ask for five I know yes
[2:14:48] just and yes and Mr CC said four so do
[2:14:52] we meet in the middle and make it four
[2:14:53] and a half I guess it becomes a question
[2:14:55] no I'm sticking with four four months
[2:14:57] okay we got four over there you have a
[2:15:00] question yeah I just I mean I would just
[2:15:01] think if I don't know what the value of
[2:15:05] is of splitting splitting it there I
[2:15:08] mean if we can if we can if 6 months as
[2:15:12] our timeline is approaching if the
[2:15:13] council feels that that's too much time
[2:15:15] then I think that the right thing to do
[2:15:18] would be to at least Grant the 5 months
[2:15:21] um and I think that they were saying 5
[2:15:23] months with the understanding that
[2:15:24] they're going to try to get it done but before that 5 month time period so I
[2:15:29] would just caution us not to kind of
[2:15:31] split teirs and position them in a place
[2:15:33] that they can't get it done in the time
[2:15:34] and then they have to come back again so
[2:15:36] I think
[2:15:37] that right and part being that there's
[2:15:40] no opportunity for them to do that I
[2:15:42] would say that it would kind of compel
[2:15:43] us a little more to go to 5 months
[2:15:46] so just think about that well it's that
[2:15:50] that's where so Mr Mr M who is this is
[2:15:53] the committee it's in has said four
[2:15:55] months is is as close as he can get to
[2:15:57] six am I correct that is correct
[2:16:01] yes
[2:16:04] so then we have no choice because it's
[2:16:06] six months or
[2:16:08] it's because uh excuse me it's four
[2:16:10] months or um because we don't have a
[2:16:12] third person here so we'd have to both
[2:16:14] agree on the four
[2:16:16] months so are you willing to make that
[2:16:19] motion and unless there's more
[2:16:21] discussion around this we I would
[2:16:22] entertain the four months yes disc in to
[2:16:26] move that yes Madam president it's a
[2:16:29] four-month extension and then there's a
[2:16:32] are you also putting in where the match
[2:16:35] is as well at as far as that same motion
[2:16:38] so it's would be part of all the same
[2:16:41] resolution yes yes yes yes and that and
[2:16:44] that number is uh what's the number that
[2:16:46] you're you're looking at I thought
[2:16:49] I
[2:16:51] I'm sorry 3 milon 3 million I think was
[2:16:54] it was it three 1.8 1.8
[2:17:00] okay no 1.8 is what I have
[2:17:05] here count 1 Point 1.8 so lowering the
[2:17:08] match to
[2:17:10] from um what was the match from Miss car
[2:17:15] is
[2:17:16] gone it was 5.7 okay okay so it it's 5.7
[2:17:20] to 1.8 with a 4mon extension that's the
[2:17:24] resolution
[2:17:26] that well they saying they were getting
[2:17:28] 3 million from the county so
[2:17:31] it's that money would have to be there
[2:17:34] also and then the Gap would they would
[2:17:37] work with the developer be roughly the
[2:17:38] 1.8 million right
[2:17:43] yes so is that the motion yes moving
[2:17:46] forward all right I'll second it all
[2:17:49] those in favor I
[2:17:52] okay uh we'll move on to the
[2:17:55] Carver Cooperative Community Center um
[2:18:01] so I heard the
[2:18:05] presentation and so there ask was to
[2:18:08] have ownership of the building return um
[2:18:11] to continue with the
[2:18:13] 1.25 um million in funding and
[2:18:17] partnership from the
[2:18:18] city and I open that up for
[2:18:24] discussion Mr M yeah um suggesting that
[2:18:30] we hold off on making any allocation at
[2:18:33] this point in time because first of all
[2:18:35] they're not a register entity at this
[2:18:37] point in time so I don't know how we can
[2:18:38] do business with them okay and we have
[2:18:41] to transfer the property back and I'm
[2:18:43] not sure where we are in terms of the
[2:18:46] original reort CLA back to from the mar
[2:18:49] Craig to the city
[2:18:51] and then we have to transfer that
[2:18:52] building back to this legal entity which
[2:18:54] is not created so I think we just need
[2:18:56] to give them time to make that happen in
[2:18:58] the next couple of weeks they promise
[2:19:00] and then we can rase that at a point in
[2:19:02] time okay CU I don't think we should
[2:19:05] move forward legally at this point in
[2:19:07] time because there is no legal entity
[2:19:09] that makes sense Mr barash could you just tell who we are in terms
[2:19:13] of the building um it's been deposited
[2:19:15] for recording um I can take a look into
[2:19:18] tomorrow if we've received
[2:19:21] okay all right thank you all right so I agree with that we do need to make
[2:19:26] sure it's a legal entity um we kind of
[2:19:28] ran into that problem down at the uh
[2:19:30] Stockade so we don't want to have that
[2:19:32] again oh thought you raising your hand
[2:19:35] see don't move don't move your hands yes
[2:19:38] not okay um so so we would just wait and
[2:19:42] ask them to come back in two weeks or we
[2:19:44] can we can actually have Miss Carver
[2:19:46] reach out when they're when they've
[2:19:47] gotten their legal
[2:19:49] entity decided been covered and all of
[2:19:51] that in place they can come back and let
[2:19:53] us know that yeah that's what I was
[2:19:54] recommending okay once that is in place
[2:19:56] they can just let us know and we can
[2:19:59] have that back on the agenda get
[2:20:01] information to Mr T yes
[2:20:04] mayor in the other aspect they're still
[2:20:07] working on the numbers that were bid a
[2:20:10] while ago M so think we have to approach
[2:20:14] that with some level of caution that's
[2:20:17] going to probably have to go back out to
[2:20:19] bid uh
[2:20:21] in worth the million two from the city's
[2:20:25] perspective the numbers are really a
[2:20:28] little over 3
[2:20:29] million
[2:20:31] uh
[2:20:33] and I'm skeptical of what their Alli we
[2:20:37] take the million to and go in and just
[2:20:38] do kind
[2:20:40] of half the project you want to have all
[2:20:42] the money lined up so in fact we're
[2:20:45] going to get a building and a program
[2:20:48] delivery of service that's really going
[2:20:49] to
[2:20:51] actually exist and be able to go forward
[2:20:54] and not have a building that's just
[2:20:56] halfway through a rehab
[2:21:00] project so we're going to ask them I'll
[2:21:02] come back and one thing that you did
[2:21:04] mention I don't know how we can help and
[2:21:06] hope that we can help that the Craig
[2:21:07] main connection is going to be right
[2:21:09] there this building is right on Craig
[2:21:10] Street and so how do we leverage any
[2:21:13] type of funding to assist with that
[2:21:16] building since it's right on there and
[2:21:17] part of the Craig main project if that's
[2:21:21] a possibility and I'm not saying that's
[2:21:24] a question that needs to be answered
[2:21:25] right here right now but I think it's a
[2:21:27] it's something that we should really
[2:21:28] consider in terms of um it looks like
[2:21:31] we're in the proc we're in the place
[2:21:32] where we are assisting organizations to
[2:21:34] make sure that they can do what they
[2:21:35] need to do and so if there's an
[2:21:37] opportunity with the Craig M project
[2:21:39] being right there that we could somehow
[2:21:41] assist to make this project move forward
[2:21:43] as was mentioned it's on the historic
[2:21:45] register now so it's not like we just
[2:21:47] can run in there and tear it down um so
[2:21:50] you know those those concerns we should
[2:21:52] we have to keep in mind as well so yes I
[2:21:56] think some of the concerns with the the
[2:21:57] previous um project managers was just
[2:22:00] wanting to have more structure and I
[2:22:02] think that was very well presented today
[2:22:05] uh I think in the the one month that
[2:22:07] they've been able to prepare uh I was
[2:22:10] truly I valued what work they were able
[2:22:12] to do and then also the understanding of
[2:22:15] they weren't starting from zero they
[2:22:16] were continuing on the work that was
[2:22:17] already established and so part of my
[2:22:19] hope is that taking this new uh uh
[2:22:22] repackaged energy and then presenting
[2:22:25] that to some local Partners I think that
[2:22:26] puts them in a very different place uh
[2:22:28] but very much to the mayor's point I
[2:22:30] would hate for us to have fund a project
[2:22:32] and then we have a bigger issue come
[2:22:34] winter with uh now we are committed how
[2:22:36] do we finish this um but I I definitely
[2:22:39] am very optimistic um but uh we need to
[2:22:42] make sure that there is an appropriate
[2:22:44] plan in place to make sure they have the
[2:22:45] full funding
[2:22:48] so all right so we're going to just wait
[2:22:50] on that we have Miss Carver yes okay and
[2:22:54] I think we all agree with the
[2:22:55] Empowerment Center we just need a lot
[2:22:56] more information in terms of what the ask is what the plan is and all of
[2:23:01] that from our affirmative action
[2:23:03] [Music]
[2:23:05] officer all right so um then let's move
[2:23:09] on to item number eight uh 1675 watt
[2:23:12] Street utility East Miss
[2:23:15] BR um May about b car this is a lot uh
[2:23:22] is everybody familiar with where it is
[2:23:25] from the super power the corner of wat
[2:23:28] Dwayne uh that was originally a
[2:23:32] pond uh that was filled in it's part of
[2:23:35] uh some more tension Pond that was built
[2:23:38] in the woodlon reserve M uh there's a uh
[2:23:43] cul that runs through there I can't
[2:23:44] remember it's 6 or 8 ft in diameter
[2:23:47] really big pipe and so it's the current
[2:23:51] is lot is owned by the Industrial
[2:23:53] Development agency they have a uh
[2:23:56] proposal for the site and this would
[2:23:58] give an easement across the site uh
[2:24:02] delineating the uh drainage pipe that
[2:24:06] goes
[2:24:08] underground David if you have
[2:24:14] anyse thank you I'm the Ida today Scott
[2:24:17] was the was Metroplex everything the
[2:24:20] mayor just to um keep going with what
[2:24:21] the mayor was saying well the Ida's own
[2:24:23] this since the 9s uh it was made into a
[2:24:26] parking lot uh it hasn't been used since
[2:24:28] I've been here over 10 plus years uh the
[2:24:31] city uh when they reconfigured the the
[2:24:34] roadway and the pond they didn't uh
[2:24:37] provide the city an easement for the
[2:24:38] infrastructure so we've owned it with
[2:24:40] your infrastructure going through it uh
[2:24:42] we have uh a company that's looking to a
[2:24:44] storage facility there it's a proposal
[2:24:47] that fits well with movable storage
[2:24:49] units on the uh area of the easement uh
[2:24:52] they're interested in um in developing
[2:24:55] the site get it back from the tax RS for
[2:24:56] the first time we want to make sure
[2:24:57] we're preserving the city's
[2:24:59] infrastructure uh so that you have your
[2:25:01] rights to enter it um maintain it uh
[2:25:04] make improvements um it's pretty it's
[2:25:06] something that we had the Ida attorneys
[2:25:08] uh work on uh to be favorable towards
[2:25:10] the city so that you preserve all your
[2:25:12] rights that you need to access the
[2:25:15] infrastructur all the documents are
[2:25:17] there before you are there any questions
[2:25:20] comments
[2:25:21] concerns no I'm I'm move this all right
[2:25:25] I'll second all those in favor thank you
[2:25:27] very much thank you
[2:25:32] mayor um oh there is one other one item
[2:25:35] that um it's came it's uh separate in
[2:25:38] your package to do this before we go
[2:25:39] into executive sessions um it's
[2:25:43] regarding the additions to the um
[2:25:45] Community benefits agreement that is
[2:25:47] submitted by the city council we
[2:25:48] discussed it a couple years ago
[2:25:51] a couple of weeks ago it feels like
[2:25:53] years a couple of weeks ago and um in
[2:25:56] speaking with the mayor um he says that
[2:25:58] what we would have to do in order to we
[2:26:00] at the last meeting uh the mayor said
[2:26:02] he's open to having these additional
[2:26:04] discussions with um West yard properties
[2:26:07] and other parties involved and so um in
[2:26:10] speaking with him today he said that in
[2:26:12] order to even to get to the point where
[2:26:14] have a discussion but what the city
[2:26:16] council would need to do is actually
[2:26:18] move forward um a resolution that we
[2:26:20] wanted to make these U amendments to the
[2:26:23] um Community benefits agreement that
[2:26:25] would be um that that was was entered
[2:26:28] into this doesn't mean that exactly what
[2:26:31] is here is what would happen but these
[2:26:33] are the items that would be brought
[2:26:35] forth for
[2:26:39] discussion any questions about
[2:26:43] that so what I'd be looking for this
[2:26:45] evening is a resolution to actually um
[2:26:48] to say these are the things that we
[2:26:49] would want to discuss in terms of um
[2:26:53] amending the community benefits
[2:26:56] agreement so we're saying that we need
[2:26:58] to have a resolution in place before the
[2:27:01] conversation takes place this this
[2:27:03] becomes the formal position of the
[2:27:08] council so right I guess what I'm acting
[2:27:12] I'm asking around the order of
[2:27:13] operations in other words there can
[2:27:15] still be a conversation yes okay but
[2:27:19] this becomes what
[2:27:20] we've had uh different people say
[2:27:23] different things so it's at this point
[2:27:25] I'm ter it's informal conversation this
[2:27:28] becomes a formal position of the council
[2:27:30] by passing The
[2:27:31] Resolution oh okay all
[2:27:35] right uh
[2:27:38] so I mean I I I would suggest that
[2:27:42] there's um maybe a meeting held um and
[2:27:47] the conversation happens prior to that
[2:27:49] cuzz I think that that conver ation
[2:27:50] should really inform some of uh what we're requesting and that would be
[2:27:56] my thought but but but the mayor is
[2:27:58] clearly stating is that conversation
[2:28:01] will not take place until we formally
[2:28:03] say this is what we'd like to have
[2:28:05] considered is I I asked the same
[2:28:07] question and am I stating it prop the
[2:28:11] way in which you're saying so that
[2:28:13] before we do that we have to actually
[2:28:15] say these are the things that we would
[2:28:16] like you to consider in the form of
[2:28:18] resolution is what the mayor is saying
[2:28:21] not the conversation and then not that
[2:28:23] way what the the resolution has to say
[2:28:25] these are the amendments that we'd like
[2:28:26] to see added to the community benefits
[2:28:31] agreement yes Mr Williams and I I
[2:28:34] understand or I'm hearing U from Mr Mr
[2:28:37] Farley's point I think based on how uh
[2:28:39] our actions are being being dictated
[2:28:41] that we have to continue in I think
[2:28:43] passing the resolution in that manner
[2:28:44] kind of protects us to ensure that hey
[2:28:47] we're putting forth these ideas or these
[2:28:49] re commendations but this in no way uh I think minimizes the importance of
[2:28:54] having that
[2:28:56] conversation yes Mr uh Madam president
[2:28:59] perhaps a a joint letter you know
[2:29:01] something less than a formal resolution
[2:29:05] but something that the a letter a letter
[2:29:09] circulate among the members was ever in
[2:29:11] FA you know say yes you have all the
[2:29:14] council members sign that and then
[2:29:16] submit that to the mayor is that
[2:29:17] acceptable yes okay okay all right um Mr
[2:29:22] mud I'm sorry your hand was up or not
[2:29:25] yeah yeah I think we should move forward
[2:29:26] with a resolution a formal resolution
[2:29:29] and then you know bring this to the
[2:29:31] table and let's discuss it with via
[2:29:33] formal resolution in
[2:29:35] place and then start a discussion from
[2:29:38] then on something that is more official
[2:29:40] from the city
[2:29:41] council well Mr O'Brian is saying we
[2:29:43] could do the letter and then the
[2:29:44] resolution would be the amended CBA
[2:29:47] right what I'm saying is as a joint a
[2:29:49] joint joint letter of the position of
[2:29:51] the these the council members as a joint
[2:29:54] letter these are these are the issu
[2:29:56] these are what we want in the in the uh
[2:30:00] in the agreement these are the these are
[2:30:02] the points that we wish to have pointed
[2:30:03] in an agreement as a as a Point of
[2:30:05] Departure if at a later point that you
[2:30:07] feel that you need to underscore that
[2:30:09] you can always do a
[2:30:11] resolution oh okay I'm just offering
[2:30:14] that for suggestion pures Mr turo your
[2:30:17] hand what
[2:30:18] up yes
[2:30:20] so if we have a resolution or a joint
[2:30:24] letter position these are the these
[2:30:26] points so that would only let us discuss
[2:30:29] these five five
[2:30:32] options correct yes that would only lead
[2:30:35] to
[2:30:35] discussion
[2:30:38] um and it would it would be in the um
[2:30:42] City Planning and Development Committee
[2:30:46] yes so let me just reiterate we talked
[2:30:50] about this emails have been sent out
[2:30:52] there have been multiple opportunities
[2:30:53] if there's more than five that people
[2:30:55] wanted to so this was not a closed
[2:30:57] discussion and everyone had an
[2:30:59] opportunity to State what they wanted so
[2:31:01] if this is what the end result was based
[2:31:04] on the input that was received because
[2:31:05] there were opportunities for
[2:31:07] input yes Mr Farley I just so again I
[2:31:10] think that I uh appreciate what our
[2:31:14] Corporation councel is sharing I think
[2:31:15] that and let me know Mr Mayor if I'm
[2:31:17] wrong the mayor there has been a lot of
[2:31:19] convers ations that have happened so I
[2:31:21] think that the letter a letter will be
[2:31:24] really clear as to what we are
[2:31:28] collectively proposing um and I just I
[2:31:31] just don't think we should put a
[2:31:32] resolution in place for something that a
[2:31:34] letter can do that
[2:31:36] would uh then form the resolution so
[2:31:39] kind of the this is the what we're
[2:31:41] asking officially and then that allows
[2:31:43] for that um discourse to happen and then
[2:31:46] we can move forward with a resolution in
[2:31:48] an a formed resolution at that
[2:31:51] point yes Mr resolution is from the city
[2:31:56] council putting forward uh this formal
[2:31:59] request to open
[2:32:02] discussion with regards to these Five
[2:32:05] Points sure I guess I just didn't know
[2:32:07] we needed a resolution to do that I'm
[2:32:08] still not sure I still don't agree that
[2:32:10] we need a resolution to do that how
[2:32:12] about that that's say that's fine again
[2:32:16] I I thought the same way I had a
[2:32:18] discussion with the mayor and the mayor
[2:32:19] says that a resolution is what is needed
[2:32:21] at this point I understood that's
[2:32:23] exactly I understand what you're saying
[2:32:25] but um I had that question I went to the
[2:32:28] mayor he said we our for we need to
[2:32:30] State our formal position in the form of
[2:32:32] a resolution and so that this does not
[2:32:34] Kick the Can down the road any
[2:32:36] further I'm willing to to move in that
[2:32:39] direction because we time is of the
[2:32:41] essence and I mean I know it's going to
[2:32:43] be a while but um we you know we were
[2:32:48] trying to get this done a little bit bit
[2:32:50] quicker things turned out differently Mr
[2:32:54] Toro yes so I wouldn't be in favor of a
[2:32:56] resolution AR rathera because the uh
[2:32:59] Community benefits agreement is already
[2:33:00] in place and I'm happy and satisfied
[2:33:03] with what was presented to uh West yard
[2:33:06] Properties LLC and um so that's kind of
[2:33:10] where I stand on okay thank you
[2:33:13] absolutely you realize that it said
[2:33:14] nothing about mwbe hiring so you're not
[2:33:17] interested in making sure we meet those
[2:33:18] goals I
[2:33:21] please don't question me on my on what I
[2:33:24] but that's part of a standard contract
[2:33:26] right we we heard that that the the
[2:33:28] contractors have their own yes yes but I
[2:33:31] would really like to see that in there
[2:33:33] I'm I'm happy with what was presented
[2:33:36] thank you so I'm I'm have some concerns
[2:33:39] and other council member has concerns
[2:33:40] and we put them forward so that's good
[2:33:42] thank
[2:33:44] you so the discussion on the table is
[2:33:47] are we moving forward with the
[2:33:49] resolution or uh the letter Mr I I'm I'm
[2:33:52] supporting moving forward with the
[2:33:53] resolution okay to start a discussion a
[2:33:56] formal resolution to discuss this okay M
[2:34:00] I'm just I want to ask Corporation
[2:34:02] Council for clarity do in other words we
[2:34:04] it's you know it's how formalized you
[2:34:07] want to make it it's how formalized you
[2:34:09] want to make it a letter would certainly
[2:34:11] intend you with signatures of those
[2:34:14] members who are signing on to that
[2:34:16] particular point you know those points
[2:34:19] it gets the message across to the the
[2:34:21] mayor the mayor is indicated he would
[2:34:23] accept such a letter but if you want to
[2:34:25] have it a much more formal formal
[2:34:28] resolution that's that's up to the
[2:34:30] council as well it's it's certainly it's
[2:34:32] how formal you want to do that you do a
[2:34:36] letter you delivered tomorrow a
[2:34:38] resolution you got to wait till next
[2:34:40] week um but the you know the points are
[2:34:42] still there but it's what you all want
[2:34:44] to do as far as uh how you want to
[2:34:48] proceed either way okay Mr will your
[2:34:51] hands up I have no issues with a formal
[2:34:54] resolution all
[2:34:57] right so um at this point in time the
[2:35:01] this just may point out there's a te
[2:35:02] missing in the word Community benefit
[2:35:04] agreement on the top on the last line of
[2:35:06] the top paragraph so we'll make that
[2:35:09] correction um so at this time it seems
[2:35:12] the consensus is that we would move
[2:35:14] forward with
[2:35:15] um passing a formal resolution to
[2:35:18] present these this language in here to
[2:35:22] amend the um Community benefits
[2:35:25] agreement so second all in favor I I
[2:35:30] thank you the final items are for
[2:35:34] property sales and therefore we've done
[2:35:36] an executive session uh need a motions
[2:35:39] to go into executive session Some Mo
[2:35:42] second all in favor I we're an executive
[2:35:45] session and members of the public will
[2:35:47] have to
[2:35:48] leave
[2:35:50] a