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they've told us they've ticketed

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numerous individuals uh but the

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situation has not changed for the past

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eight or nine months it's particularly

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the same the corporal's uh concluding

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comments were he believes that for the

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safety of our customers the shelter

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should be removed there is definitely uh

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safety concerns at times and so we need

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to be um you know really taking that in

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stride as to it's not just a cleanly

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issue it's it's about the safety and we

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recognize this is a tough decision

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because our customers that do use the

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shelter

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um when they can they're the ones that

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are going to be inconvenienced it's sort

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of the Bad Apple ruins it for everybody

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right so we do have to consider that but

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that's ultimately where staff have come

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from ended up with and you know Mr chair

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I recognize this is a sensitive issue

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and a topic but we would appreciate your

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committee's direction on what you'd re

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recommend we should do with that Shel

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with our shelters okay I'll look around

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for speakers I have director Douglas

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anyone else while I'm here director

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Abbott is

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next Mr chairman happy to get the uh

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staff recommendation on the floor as a

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as a motion we have a mover in a

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seconder and I will go to director

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Abbott Mr Wan thank you chair Mr wman I

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I've heard maybe on CBC about Montreal

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and how people in the cold weather don't

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need to wait at bus stops as much

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because they can count on the uh the

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travel app does UMO provide our

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customers with um I I was just trying to

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find it uh

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a a minute by minute time schedule that

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they their next bus so they needn't

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stand out in weather like this today

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yeah with the new with the new

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technology smart uh smart technology we

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have with BC Transit um our Riders can

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and and and quite frankly even the

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report mentioned this excuse me at

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Village Green mall I know our commuter

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Riders they sit in their cars they don't

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go where those shelters are if you look

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at the pictures of sort to see why they

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don't go and they know when they're when

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they're coming right so yes the Riders

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not all of them though have that not

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every body has a phone so some of them

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still rely on um hard print outs or

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writer guides and those type of things

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right or they'll look at the the

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schedule that's at most of our key stops

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as well um so yes most of our our

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regular riders that use this system they

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they know when the buses are should be

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there that's

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right that conclud order Mr chair um do

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we know what the motion on the floor is

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it's the staff recommendation which is

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for

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direction which one was uh REM I can

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clarify so the report doesn't have a

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recommendation up front although in the

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body of the report it does include a

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staff recommendation so would be that we

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direct staff remove the shelters and

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benches at the Village Green mall and

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couch and secondary school thank you

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director Morrison for pointing that out

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I have director Acton

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next not sure this is going to work is

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it working this m okay um I guess guess

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I have a couple questions one would be

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or first a comment this just is pretty

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infuriating and we're forced

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to kind of make a a decision that's not

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in anyone's best interest and so I'm

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wondering like have have the how much of

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this information has been shared with

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the province because this is obviously a

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greater issue and

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um you know where do we stop we're just

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going to keep doing things like this now

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we're removing bus

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shelters

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um and then my other question or

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question comment is um what are other

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areas doing like to me it's almost a a

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matter of design so how can we design

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the bus shelters to be less appealing to

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set up as as a shelter you know a

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long-term shelter so is there uh you

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know do we is there a way to remove just

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remove the Ben is remove some of the

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walls make it somewhat uh keep people

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out of the

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elements and uh cuz you know it is nice

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to have a bus shelter and and especially

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really busy stops I know I've seen moms

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sitting there with their kids and like

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so for us to just com just react like

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this when when is it going to stop and

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you know we have a beer issue

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here thank you for the question um

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challenging one to answer so when you

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say

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has BC sorry has the province been made

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aware they have through BC Transit and

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by the way Seth Wright the uh BC Transit

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senior manager of government relations

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is here as well to help answer um

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questions on this one more more

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appropriately probably the second report

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so BC transit's been aware of it they

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hear about it from the operator daily

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and the operator has an agreement with

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BC Transit and so they hear about that

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um we've had discussions with our our

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team is BC Transit as well as the

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operator we meet regularly every month

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and we talk about it with our staff and

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we we try to look at is it getting

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better is it getting worse where is it

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you know are we just pushing the problem

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somewhere else so to answer your

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question when's it going to stop I don't

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have an answer to that this was a

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conclusion that when we talk to the

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group and we talk to which is also

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mentioned in the in the report of what's

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happening at Village and Green mall in

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particular they've removed all their

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Planters and benches off that property

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for the same reason their property

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manager also told us to do the same

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thing if you leave a bench they're just

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going to use the bench so unfortunately

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just leave the bus stop sign and and the

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poll if you will um in terms of design

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of the shelters I'm not so sure it's the

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design it's it's probably more about the

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locations there is definitely some

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higher risk locations than others and

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and we're dealing with it in the core um

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I did touch about uh sorry the report

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does touch on a few other ones that are

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getting a little bit challenging

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sometimes even at the the current one at

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the hospital is having some issues there

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um so I can't comment about what type of

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new designs might be out there uh Seth I

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I don't know if you have any other

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comments you might be able to help on

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with regard to designs of shelters but

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but I also know other areas Victoria's

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dealt with it unfortunately in their

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rougher area in the Pandora Street area

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I know there's been shelter removed in

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the Nimo are on some of their rough one

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so we're not the only ones dealing with

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this do you have another comment zth

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that um that Cuda the I always forget

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what the acronym is for but it's the

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Canadian Association of Transit associ

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associations which BC Transit is a is a

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member of um did a really great report

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on Safety and Security and identifi that

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Transit related safety concerns are not

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fundamentally a Transit issue and I

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question um but I identifies some some

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broad uh Solutions and and sort of

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strategies that require ultimately

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senior levels of government to step up

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and and so I won't go into that further

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experience across the province we do

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face these challenges at at shelters and

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exchanges across the province one one

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piece that is a recurring theme is the

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collocation of liquor stores

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um and and Cannabis stores with with

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exchanges and that tends to hide in some

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of these issues uh and exacerbate the

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the issues uh in these locations um and

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so thinking about the location where we

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put the the central exchange is is a key

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piece of this um the train station

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doesn't seem to have the same level of

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issues that we see at the Village Green

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Mall exchange follow up director Aken

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yeah so thank you you've mentioned a few

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issues so then again we have the the

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provincial government that promised when

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they would be taxing cannabis locations

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they'd be spending money on addiction

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centers Etc so I think you know at this

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table we talk about we have an item

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later today that is about being

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political I think we take this and be

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political and and we make a big stink

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we've had cck TV here uh I'm not even

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quite sure that was uh that that became

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news I think this is really big news and

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and for us to just uh kind of just keep

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reacting sure Victoria did that's fine

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but I think we need to start to use this

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opportunity everybody who lives in those

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areas deserve a nice uh you know

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Planters you've said and and like we all

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deserve to live in a nice area and and

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clean and safe and I think this is an

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opportunity where we shouldn't just be

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uh reacting so quickly and we should

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start demanding The Province do

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something and and at this table I think

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we should make this a political issue

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thank you for that

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looking to director Stone next yeah I

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agree with director Acton and it is a

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political issue and it's driven by I

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would say every municipality that has

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any kind of urbanization in every

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Regional District um the reality is is

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these problems aren't going to be solved

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in 3 months 6 months and right now our

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bus stops are not accessible to the

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people that need to use the buses

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because they're intimidated afraid

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unsafe whatever the reason is so it does

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require um mitigative action um whether

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it's reaction or not um so yeah

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absolutely the the provincial and and

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federal governments have responsibility

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to take care of unhoused populations and

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there's no measure that you can say

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they're doing a sufficient job right now

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it continues to get worse um and the

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Investments aren't coming fast enough

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and Swift enough to take care of the

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issue but it doesn't mean we can't and

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we shouldn't um take mitigative measures

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in the meantime to allow those bus stops

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to remain for their use and support the

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people that need them so that's why I

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seconded the the motion and support it

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um share the frustration though 100% I

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think it's gone long past time where um

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excuses are acceptable when the

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Investments are only uh not even coming

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close to keeping up with the rapidly

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growing issues um that they present and

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when it goes from you know we talk about

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things like placemaking and place for

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community and connection and people

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coming together and we're having to

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remove those Investments that have been

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made in communities um because senior

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levels of government aren't carrying the

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weight so to speak when it comes to

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dealing with these issues um it's

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absolutely political and it's it's often

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set at this table and tables around the

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province um but um that doesn't mean we

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can't take mitigative actions uh as

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appropriate in the meantime thanks thank

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you looking online I have director

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yeah thank you I mean it's this is

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something that no one wants to do I

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certainly I understand why this is being

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recommended and why we're most likely

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moving forward with this and it's you

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know it's heartbreaking it it's like

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how it's it's a you know this is

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impacting people who aren't then able to

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just access those that sort of basic

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shelter while they're waiting you know

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for

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um for

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Transit it's generally in impacting you

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know a lot of people that with less

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means as well um who are using Transit

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and relying on Transit and sometimes

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have to wait long periods of times for

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buses because we don't have you know for

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a lot of areas a robust um system and

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and at the same time I I hear and

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recognize and understand the challenges

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that are being faced I mean I get calls

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about those stations um quite often

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and images um and concerns that people

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have quite often and the fact remains

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that that a province as a province and a

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and a and a country this is a national

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issue that is not being dealt with

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adequately and so I support us writing

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something you know to um but I feel like

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how many times do we all have to write

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you know I've been to every conference

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I've been to since

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2015 this

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is invested in properly in all of our

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communities um across BC and Canada

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because we we have to just take this

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head on and and finally do something to

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to to change what's happening out there

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it is just there are so many people

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suffering and there is just not enough

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being done and letters we write and

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meetings we go to and you know

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incremental changes are made but this

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needs to be addressed like the crisis

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that it

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is thank you I have a growing list I

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have director Morrison director toosi

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director Douglas and director

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martman I did miss you sorry uh director

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Morrison thank you chair um I I just I I

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think it's important that uh I

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appreciate what director Staples had to

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say and and um I'm increasingly uh

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wanting to rely more on on actions as as

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opposed to words and and note that we

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have a multi-million dollar transit

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system that is operated by or

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administered by a a very very small

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staff and I was here when we didn't have

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Transit shelters and and it was a big

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deal to get them but that's not their

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core um responsibility I'm far more

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interested in the work that they have to

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do to increase

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uh availability and get hours and and

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provide greater Service as opposed to

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the time and effort put into this is an

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important issue but it it's not our

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issue and I think that the action that

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we have to take is to remove the stops

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uh make them usable for our patrons and

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uh uh sure if we need to write a letter

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we write a letter but this this is this

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is our Transit staff engaging in a uh a

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a social problem that we have and I I'd

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rather have them focusing on the uh the

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business of operating our transit

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services thank you thank you director

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toosi next

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please thank you Mr chair um I will

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support this um motion to remove the

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buest shelters unfortunate that we do

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have to do this um but for safety

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reasons of our students that may be

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catching the bus or our constituents

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that are catching the bus to um having

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to be there and it's kind of you know

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it's it's sad to see happening um a

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quick search on the line it's happening

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all the way down to Arizona where all of

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you know the same kind of

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um scenes are rolling out in every

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community and I do

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um what I what I would like to see is uh

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May maybe a joint letter sent by

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cvd couch and tribes city of Duncan

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North couch and and Lady Smith signed

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this letter to say we would like to have

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um some help with this issue about

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trying to

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find um some Solutions on where we can

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actually send UNH housee people all year

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round with the services that that they

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need um I know it's it's a big a big ask

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but I think if all of us joined together

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in this effort it could could be

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done um I know that you know there's

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other things going on in the background

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on you know Social Services the the cuts

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to Social Services and and trying to you

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know work towards

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filling those gaps that are actually you

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know having people become unhoused so

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anyways um I'm hoping I'm not speaking

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out a term or anything but I just I just

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think that we just need to continue

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working on a solution with what we have

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and also just using our voices or

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political voices to to move that forward

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thank you thank you at the beginning of

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the meeting I forgot to acknowledge

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alternate director Harriet so welcome to

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the meeting and large shoes to Phill

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where you are sitting there now I've

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altered my list I didn't miss director

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ishd Das so I'll give him a chance to go

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and then Douglas and Hartman

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martman director ish Das thank you Mr

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chair uh just really quick I won't go

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over all the points that have been

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spoken I I I honestly I don't support

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the recommendation on the floor myself I

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would rather see a phased approach if

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possible I don't know what to design uh

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director aen did touch on it but I

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didn't hear the answer it was possibly

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where I was going was can we remove the

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walls and if that doesn't work then next

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we remove the benches but the entire

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shelter I think that's too radical and

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too fast even though I know there is

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safety concerns but I would rather try a

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few things differently than just an

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entire kneejerk all at one knee-jerk is

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probably a bad word because this is long

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been ongoing I just don't support the

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complete removal I just think of the

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many elders and as director AK can said

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as mothers and children there's a lot of

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people that don't have access I

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understand they don't can't use them I

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just using it as a protective shelter if

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we remove benches and walls first might

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make some change in there have we done

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that elsewhere so and I won't go over

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any other points because everybody spoke

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to that a great

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deal um Mr Mr chair through the director

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um you're not able to take portions of

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the shelter down it it it's it's it's

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structured so there's three sides to it

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and the roof the only thing that we

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could consider is leaving the bench and

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staff talked about that and we took in

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regards the comments that the uh in

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particular The Village Green mall um

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Property Management told us that where

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they had benches that's where these

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individuals are going to go they're

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going to try and get so it it it could

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be a phased approach we can try it if

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you'd like it's not a a major Time

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Savings to take the bench at the same

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time but we ultimately are recommending

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both if you choose to want to just take

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the shelter down and leave the bench

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there we could consider what the

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implications of that would be and

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potentially removing shelter or the

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bench or not at a future

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date thank you I have director

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martman uh thank you chair and you know

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yes many people have have a lot of

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experience in this I think and i' just

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maybe add another piece to it because

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you know they're people and everybody

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that uses the bus we care about

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everybody that has to use a shelter we

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care about and I don't think we're we're

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trying to make it to them and us I think

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it's trying to it's more of a we from

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what I'm hearing and I I struggle with

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this because I think of the person that

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has accessibility issues trying to get

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on a bus and having

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to they can't stand and wait um you know

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they have to sit um so you know removing

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everything for that um really

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discourages me for that person and I

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wonder you know I look at every bank has

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an ATM and every ATM is accessible and

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do can we go the other way where we can

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make it so to it's totally enclosed and

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you have access through your compass

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card or whatever you know means um has

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that been looked

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at uh Mr chair through to director Mar

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know that has not been looked at I don't

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know of a shelter and maybe Seth you may

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know of one I don't know of one where

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it's completely enclosed and you have I

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don't even know how you hand out passes

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to all it's a public transit system how

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would you hand out passes to you know

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whatever the number of riders we have I

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I don't know how that would work but

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Seth you know of a a shelter that would

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be something designed that way yeah the

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only par me in through the chair uh the

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only thing that I can think of is

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something like uh a brt station in a

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major Urban Metropolis in a place like

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South America where where there's an

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enclosed uh Fair paid Zone but I think

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that's not appropriate and hasn't been

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carried out in a small uh small town or

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or rural

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context and a followup if I may CH and I

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I guess the next thing I I guess I'm

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looking for thinking out of the box if

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we can and whether or not there's

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Partnerships out there where we could be

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located closer to somebody or somewhere

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that would uh make it a you know

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somewhere where you know those people

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with accessibility challenges or you

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know that can't have a place to sit

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nearby that wouldn't be you know a big

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challenge you know you may have to go a

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little bit further to when the bus

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arrives but and that may slow down the

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whole bus system specifically but I you

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know maybe there's something where there

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is a uh a you know way to work with some

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other close local I don't know if that's

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been looked at either and that's my last

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one thanks chair I Mr chair through to

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director marman so your your comments

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are are fair um I just don't think

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they're practical at this time like I

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think of the people with mobility issues

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right now they're not using the shelter

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they can't get in the shelters Andor

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they're feeling unsafe this is what

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we're hearing from customers when our

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staff go there and do inspections that's

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what they see so you know I if one if

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one course of action might be to leave

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the benches to potentially uh assist

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what you're looking to doing so we take

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the shelters down we leave the benches

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um staff's recommendation is it's only a

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matter of time and and the benches will

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probably need to be removed anyway but

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if the committee feels that might be a

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more um uh I don't W say softer approach

546
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but a more uh leveled approach we we

547
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,159
could try that if you'd

548
00:23:12,159 --> 00:23:14,840
like I'm director Stone and director

549
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320
Acton thanks I I just want to thank

550
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,200
director

551
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,919
Staples and um martman for sort of

552
00:23:20,919 --> 00:23:22,720
humanizing the context like these folks

553
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,279
are using the shelters for shelter for

554
00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:28,120
for their own protection because there's

555
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,000
nothing adequate for them and that's

556
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,960
really unfortunate but these are Transit

557
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,440
shelters um when they're used in the way

558
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,640
they're being used they're not

559
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,679
accessible for their intended use so

560
00:23:38,679 --> 00:23:40,760
whether someone has accessibility issues

561
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240
or not when they can't use the shelter

562
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200
because it's being occupied um they're

563
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,880
not there for shelter of people that are

564
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,799
unhoused unfortunately they're there for

565
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,760
people who need to use Transit and when

566
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,880
they cannot use them and they're

567
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,240
inaccessible for their intended use most

568
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,400
of Transit stops do not have shelters

569
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,960
nor do they have benches so the reality

570
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,760
is is that Transit users are somewhat or

571
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,400
with knowledge could be somewhat

572
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,039
equipped um to the best of their own

573
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:12,880
abilities to be able to actually use the

574
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,000
transit sh system without a shelter um

575
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840
you know we can come up with uh a lot of

576
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,559
ideas and and I just would Echo Mr

577
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:25,679
wake's comments that it doesn't sound

578
00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:27,440
practical to me we need to take some

579
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,200
action

580
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,279
um I'll just leave it at that thank you

581
00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:35,399
very much director Acton

582
00:24:35,399 --> 00:24:37,880
please thank you um I've heard

583
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,000
everyone's comments and I I appreciate

584
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240
them all and agree with them all um I do

585
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,080
think though that with every maybe

586
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,960
because this is the first time we're

587
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,039
actually looking at this item but you

588
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,039
know it's been going on for a long time

589
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:53,799
and and we're trying to come up with a

590
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:55,600
decision today I think we delay our

591
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640
decision for two months and we use this

592
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,120
as an opportunity

593
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,000
so we use this as an opportunity with

594
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760
our Communications Department and we

595
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,480
really come out into the news into

596
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,399
everywhere and and um make a stance like

597
00:25:10,399 --> 00:25:12,520
this this is connected to everything to

598
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,159
our housing crisis to our Mental Health

599
00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:17,159
crisis drug crisis and enough is enough

600
00:25:17,159 --> 00:25:20,720
so we take this opportunity and we come

601
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960
out full full guns blazing to the

602
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,840
provincial government and federal

603
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,360
government and

604
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,600
we demand some solutions that start to

605
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,120
be implemented and then when when we're

606
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,440
not at least we we wait for to be heard

607
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,200
and we keep we keep the pressure on by

608
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,640
now we're forced to remove the the the

609
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,200
shelters because we're going to miss an

610
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,679
opportunity what's going to happen is

611
00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:46,440
we're just going to remove the shelters

612
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,080
and it's going to be uh somehow

613
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,120
cbd's problem or BC Transit and and or

614
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,120
not even problem that we just didn't

615
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:58,399
consider uh you know the the person that

616
00:25:58,399 --> 00:26:00,960
director martman talked about and and

617
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,279
like the mother that I talked about so I

618
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,000
think um there's there's an order to do

619
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520
things and we work with Communications

620
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,480
and turn this around into an

621
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,919
opportunity thank you director Abbot

622
00:26:14,919 --> 00:26:18,880
please thank you chair and um Miss uh

623
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,880
director Acton's remarks raised my

624
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,240
concern every day we wait uh is another

625
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,559
$500 pressure washing dipping into the

626
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,960
reserves that BC Transit has at its

627
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,520
disposal I think um the desire to bring

628
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,480
to politicize this could be the very

629
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,679
showcasing of us removing the shelters

630
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:41,880
removing the benches using that as a

631
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,320
message to Upper levels of government

632
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520
that suggests this is not the right

633
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,080
course but it's the only course that we

634
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,720
have to take as I drove in this morning

635
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,679
across from Matrix marel uh no shelter

636
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:55,440
and there was a couple standing with

637
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,000
what I thought was insufficient clothes

638
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,320
waiting for the bus there are as

639
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,000
director um Stone has mentioned there

640
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
are numerous shelters the bulk of the

641
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,520
shelters do not have stops do not have

642
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,919
shelters so removing a couple uh saving

643
00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:12,960
the transit authority the the resources

644
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,240
that they desperately need at this point

645
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,120
is is the message that we need to

646
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:18,880
deliver the upper levels government

647
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,799
thank you thank you director

648
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,200
Seagal thanks I agree with everything

649
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,520
that's been said I don't need to repeat

650
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,600
any of that but I just was at the chair

651
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Cao BCM forum and connected with a

652
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,480
number of chairs and other Regional

653
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,799
districts so um in terms of this letter

654
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,039
writing campaign I think we should reach

655
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,520
out to other Regional districts that we

656
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,519
know are having the same issues and have

657
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,480
made you know potentially the same

658
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,200
decisions and try to Lobby senior levels

659
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,279
of government that

660
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:51,760
way thank you looking around I put

661
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,360
myself at the bottom of the list as a

662
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,399
good chair

663
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:56,320
would

664
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,559
and that wasn't directed at than any

665
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:04,549
other chairperson

666
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,039
please this is true I could have done

667
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,720
that but uh and called the question

668
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,320
earlier

669
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,600
but um just a point on on on my view of

670
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,559
this I think it's imperative that the

671
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,919
users of the system are provided a safe

672
00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:23,519
place to travel uh and unfortunately

673
00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,279
this is a reactive um stance that we're

674
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:27,760
taking but it's one that we have been

675
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,039
forced into to provide that safety to

676
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:35,600
the users of the system uh it's as Mr

677
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440
um wake has said a very difficult topic

678
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,880
to bring forward for the uh start of of

679
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840
our meeting but it's imperative that we

680
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,600
do something aside from waiting I think

681
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440
the political uh portion of it will be

682
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,000
the removal of those if that is the will

683
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,159
of this board and that will uh bode well

684
00:28:57,159 --> 00:29:00,840
with uh followup of whether it be uh

685
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,679
meetings with ministers or letters or

686
00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:06,200
whatever Avenue that we choose to do

687
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,840
that we provide the safe operation of

688
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,519
not only those who are traveling in

689
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,480
there but the operators of the the

690
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,200
system as well

691
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,559
so any further

692
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,039
input there is a motion on the floor

693
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:23,840
could you reread

694
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,440
that thank you Mr chair uh the

695
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720
recommendation before you is that it be

696
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
recommended to the board that the

697
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320
transit shelters and benches located on

698
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,919
James Street and Beverly Street be

699
00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:39,679
removed no not Beverly it's Village

700
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,679
Green mall sorry Village Green

701
00:29:42,679 --> 00:29:47,039
mall uh clarification Bill Village Green

702
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,919
and James

703
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:52,360
Street ready for the question all those

704
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,120
in

705
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,840
favor

706
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120
opposed director ish Das and director o

707
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080
and are opposed that motion

708
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,799
carries thank you Mr wakeen for that

709
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:05,919
difficult

710
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:08,640
discussion Miss

711
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,470
Harrison thank you Mr

712
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,960
CH director Nicholson I'm sorry thank

713
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,039
you um so I'd like to move that um the

714
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,559
regional district draft a letter to the

715
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,120
minister or the premier and that they we

716
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,720
request other jurisdictions in the cou

717
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120
and Val region District to sign on to

718
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,799
that letter and that we also issue a

719
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,880
develop a press release with including

720
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,799
pictures that we've had in the thing to

721
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,840
provide to the media so that this

722
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,840
actually hits the newspaper and any

723
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240
other great ideas people I'd appreciate

724
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,080
adding that to the motion thank you very

725
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,000
much we were seconding that director

726
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Douglas comment who seconded director

727
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Acton I'll go to director Douglas and

728
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,039
then

729
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,080
n

730
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
uh the the board chair is writing a

731
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,240
letter to the uh Province regarding a

732
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,600
permanent location more suitable

733
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000
permanent location for the Emergency

734
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,799
warming Center and I'm just wondering if

735
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,960
we want to send two separate letters to

736
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360
the province or or combine these I mean

737
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,639
they are separate related issues but as

738
00:31:19,639 --> 00:31:21,480
is noted in the staff report many of the

739
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,559
issues with the transit shelter at on

740
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,440
James Street by couch and secondary

741
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,840
school are related to the uh opening of

742
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
the emergency warming Center uh at the

743
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,000
couch Community Center in December so we

744
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,600
we could we could obviously send two

745
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,320
separate letters but we we could also

746
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880
send this in one letter to the province

747
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,960
um highlighting uh the current

748
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
challenges with these uh Transit stop

749
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,799
stops as being connected to uh our

750
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,720
decision to put the emergency warming

751
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,639
Center at the community center would

752
00:31:53,639 --> 00:31:56,279
that be um amicable to you director

753
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,600
Nicholson to add that

754
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200
topic to the already letter that is

755
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,639
being sent regarding a permanent home um

756
00:32:05,639 --> 00:32:08,840
I would look to staff Communications for

757
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,480
advice on this because actually maybe

758
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,639
having them respond to two three five

759
00:32:14,639 --> 00:32:16,320
different letters might be more

760
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320
effective than one where you bundle

761
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,559
everything up and part of the trick when

762
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,720
you write letters to the provinces to

763
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,159
ask them to respond to your concerns and

764
00:32:25,159 --> 00:32:27,519
what they're going to do about it so uh

765
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,080
like we need to get smarter about this I

766
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360
agree completely with director Acton

767
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,840
so I don't know oh thank you uh director

768
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,399
iskash thank you chair uh it's not so

769
00:32:41,399 --> 00:32:43,919
much about the it's comment on the the

770
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:45,880
letter going to the ministry and higher

771
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,000
levels of government but uh I would just

772
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,559
urge a proactive press release and

773
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:54,080
getting ahead of this prior because I

774
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,600
think this uh we see all the news media

775
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,960
on on the uh emergency warming shelter

776
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480
and the inability to find a long-term

777
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,240
secure space some people view these that

778
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,840
maybe it's not being used as Transit but

779
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,159
at least it's providing shelter and

780
00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:11,039
these people will now move to the

781
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,120
overhangs on businesses and affect local

782
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,440
businesses and other areas where public

783
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,080
are already Gathering so I think this is

784
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,360
something that possibly staff and the

785
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,559
board might want to get ahead of and let

786
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,399
the public know that this action is

787
00:33:23,399 --> 00:33:25,360
being taken and the difficult decision

788
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,470
that it was thank you dor Staples

789
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,480
online I think writing one letter that

790
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,240
connects them makes the most sense um

791
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,080
and just having it in different sections

792
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,360
and and

793
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,399
also that that request you know there's

794
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:47,000
a request for a followup to meet with um

795
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,440
the leaders in our

796
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,960
communities and um the excuse me the

797
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,279
Coalition of the minister um and the

798
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,880
premier to move move forward on some of

799
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,039
the actions that we need in our

800
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,679
community there's a lot of work being

801
00:34:02,679 --> 00:34:06,399
done to um you know

802
00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:09,760
to come up with what we what we actually

803
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,839
need as a region and so I would just

804
00:34:12,839 --> 00:34:14,879
hate to have kind of these things

805
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,480
disconnected from each other because

806
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,159
they all are connected and I think one

807
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:19,839
letter is actually better because of

808
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:22,679
that um but also just to acknowledge

809
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,280
somehow in that letter and and I'm happy

810
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,839
to speak to the chair uh about you know

811
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:30,000
what is going on that we can actually

812
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,440
advocate for and having a meeting with

813
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,399
all of us again whether it's at you know

814
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:37,280
ubcm still far away but we're close to

815
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,320
Victoria so we can head down there and

816
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,280
have a discussion with them at any time

817
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,760
I think is really important we're in an

818
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,440
election year and to you know be able to

819
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,760
establish some form of a commitment um

820
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,280
would be ideal for more investment in

821
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,359
our region and not even just in our

822
00:34:56,359 --> 00:34:57,839
region I don't even want to say that any

823
00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,520
more just more investment to actually

824
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000
addressing this as a as a province I

825
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,640
mean we have to this has to be one of

826
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,480
the number one um investment areas that

827
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000
that needs to be moved on quickly

828
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,440
because of the we're losing people every

829
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
day people are dying families are

830
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,119
suffering people are losing their

831
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,880
housing and and on and on it goes and I

832
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,920
don't won't repeat what I said earlier

833
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
uh other than to say when we write this

834
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,839
what whatever it is that we write we

835
00:35:28,839 --> 00:35:30,560
need to make sure that it is connecting

836
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,920
in with um you know the the next best

837
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,280
best steps for us to get an audience to

838
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,960
bring forward what our region needs

839
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160
thank you thank you so the motion is to

840
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,720
write a separate

841
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,119
letter uh pertaining to this topic uh

842
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,079
there was discussion about including

843
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,040
that in a letter that you already are

844
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920
Penning uh about a permanent warming

845
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,839
Center uh director Stone please yes and

846
00:35:57,839 --> 00:35:59,119
I don't want to lose sight of like I've

847
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:00,920
heard comments around the table like it

848
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,119
doesn't take there's been tons of news

849
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,200
coverage on this in every community in

850
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,000
this province there's been a ton of

851
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,960
coverage of just search Transit shelter

852
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,880
remove on Google News um it's across the

853
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,880
country um leadership in senior

854
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,440
government are well aware of the issues

855
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,400
um and I don't mean to sound jaded but

856
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,240
we can write letters until our hands are

857
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,440
broken and bleeding that doesn't mean we

858
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680
don't continue to do it and continue to

859
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Advocate but some of the commentary I

860
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,599
heard felt insulting to me that

861
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,359
there's uh more work needs to be done at

862
00:36:36,359 --> 00:36:38,960
the local level um there are people on

863
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,839
this board that spend days of every

864
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:44,800
single week like when you sum the hours

865
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,560
up of their work week working on this

866
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,240
issue in particular um and it's been

867
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,560
ongoing for years so the failure is not

868
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,839
at the advocacy level on this issue the

869
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,440
failure is not at the

870
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640
uh media level on this issue because if

871
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,599
you search cowch and Duncan uh lady

872
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,920
Smith Victoria N IMO uh

873
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,599
unhoused uh drug crisis um there's

874
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,680
multiple articles every week in the

875
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,240
media about these issues um it takes the

876
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:24,079
the broader Community to hold um

877
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,119
government accountable for this and to

878
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,200
say that it's important

879
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,400
um and it is an election year so um

880
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,040
absolutely support separate letters

881
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,800
summary letters um and I'll I'll happily

882
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,720
assist in Penning and signing all of

883
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,760
those letters um and the meetings and

884
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,760
the advocacy because we're in them all

885
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,240
the time um but until senior government

886
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,520
is is pressed on this as the biggest

887
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,040
issue they need to deal with um we're

888
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,400
not going to see see change you know I

889
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,560
feel like this is a little bit of

890
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Groundhog Day because these kinds of

891
00:38:01,319 --> 00:38:02,960
conversations have been happening for

892
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,720
years um and yet like I said at the very

893
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,880
beginning the problem only continues to

894
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,800
get worse so I support a separate letter

895
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
and I'll also include this information

896
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
in other letters um that are being sent

897
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,280
but um you know I just think it's

898
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,319
important to recognize the really hard

899
00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:20,920
work that has been done by people that

900
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,960
sit at this table and our staff on these

901
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,240
issues uh and not forget that thanks

902
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,800
thank you thank you I'm going to test

903
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,760
the floor are you ready for the question

904
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,800
separate letter be

905
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,800
sent all in

906
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,760
favor opposed if any that motion carries

907
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,319
thank you very much moving on Miss

908
00:38:42,319 --> 00:38:46,280
Harrison thank you Mr chair uh the next

909
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,880
item on the agenda is the report from

910
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,079
the facilities and Transit division

911
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,480
regarding uh three-year Transit

912
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,720
expansion request for 2024 to 202 7 and

913
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,480
that's an update on that process is this

914
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,599
a good news story Mr wake part partially

915
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,800
partially good news about news director

916
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,280
Stone indicates yes so this is for

917
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
information as well the good news is um

918
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,920
we were successful in receiving

919
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,119
provincial funding for two of our

920
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,839
service requests so this is custom

921
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:16,440
service or handy Dart um The Province

922
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,240
supported 1400 hours um for that service

923
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:20,640
that is scheduled to commence in

924
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040
September and an additional 500 hours

925
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,280
for our inter regional service to n and

926
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,000
the ncx for uh I believe it's two return

927
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,880
trips on Fridays and Saturday evenings

928
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,119
so that's good news um the unfortunate

929
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,480
part is we didn't receive uh funding for

930
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,000
what's badly needed in my opinion is our

931
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,079
conventional service we asked for 2,700

932
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:41,319
hours this is the third year in a row

933
00:39:41,319 --> 00:39:42,839
that we've asked for conventional

934
00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:45,599
service funding that we did not receive

935
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,599
um I gone back to double check we

936
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,480
actually our our last conventional

937
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
service expansion didn't happen until

938
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960
2018 um when we got 1500 so

939
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,680
unfortunately the pandemic hit and so

940
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,000
there was really no uh need quite

941
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,880
frankly to get additional Service uh

942
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,400
during a couple years of that but

943
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,640
unfortunately 3 years in a row the

944
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
province has said no to our request um

945
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,839
and for me this is really disappointing

946
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,040
for for staff and particular and of

947
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,880
course the residents particularly for

948
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,000
all the planning work and public

949
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,440
engagements for the last year to year

950
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,920
and a half that staff have been doing

951
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,640
with BC Transit and and um and the

952
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,920
residents on this and so what's also

953
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,640
included in the report is attachment C

954
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,800
and it explains BC transits expansion

955
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,440
service evaluation process that they use

956
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,040
to recommend which regions and services

957
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,280
uh do receive funding um and and as the

958
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,760
report indicated we understand the

959
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,160
province has had a tremendous amount of

960
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,760
expansion hour requests I'm led to

961
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,200
believe about two and a half times the

962
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,880
normal um which also to me is not really

963
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,880
surprising in light of um many regions

964
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,880
that were coming out of the pandemic uh

965
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,400
the ridership has starting to rebound

966
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,359
their population growth is going

967
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:53,240
continued Improvement to assist with the

968
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,359
reduction of greenhouse gas and and all

969
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:58,359
the appropriate environmental uh

970
00:40:58,359 --> 00:41:00,000
factors that we plugged into it which

971
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480
support Transit um so to me it wasn't

972
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,920
surprising the province got a huge

973
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,079
request from many regions um but there's

974
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,440
two key factors that I'll try and

975
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,200
address here and then if I need a little

976
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200
bit more assistance I'll call upon Seth

977
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,880
there's two factors that BC Transit has

978
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,400
to look at which is different than

979
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,640
they've done in the past because they're

980
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,880
they're dealing with a bit of a

981
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880
transition of their Fleet but firstly is

982
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,960
ridership and I've said this many times

983
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,640
due to the couch and region being so

984
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,599
spread out with not a large Metropolis

985
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:28,319
of population

986
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,280
um we don't score too highly on a

987
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,160
ridership or a ridership cost recovery

988
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,359
um and to me it's about that's why it

989
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,400
speaks we need more service we need more

990
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,040
frequency of our bus I look at some of

991
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,680
our areas and particularly in the South

992
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,040
it's going to be a struggle to see

993
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,920
improvements without more additional

994
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,760
hours and we've tried to Advocate that

995
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,760
to BC Transit I think they understand

996
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560
but they have to go through their

997
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,599
scoring mechanism however they do to

998
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,160
decide what regions receive funding the

999
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,599
second part that is a challenge for them

1000
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,280
is um they have to strategize which

1001
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,520
regions get funding and it's it's

1002
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960
partially because of if you get

1003
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,040
expansion small amount of hours don't

1004
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,160
necessarily require another bus but at

1005
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,319
certain levels approximately 2500 hours

1006
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:15,800
it uh BC Transit Fleet um U procedure

1007
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,760
means you need to add another bus well

1008
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,079
they're in this situation right now

1009
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:20,680
they're trying to transition their Fleet

1010
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,319
into electric and CNG and for some

1011
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:26,319
places that uh don't have that quite

1012
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:28,520
ready they're likely going to have to

1013
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
incur along with local governments large

1014
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,119
increases to extend the life of the

1015
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,319
buses so if we're not ready for electric

1016
00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:37,760
yet or CNG and our buses are due to be

1017
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,640
replaced our next ones are on the

1018
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,920
commuter buses they're due to be

1019
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,000
replaced in 2028 and if there's not CG

1020
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,440
or there's not electric well what are we

1021
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,720
going to do um my understanding is the

1022
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:49,839
BC Transit is not ordering any more

1023
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,720
fossil fuel buses for uh or diesel or

1024
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,960
gas for um heavy duty or medium duty

1025
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,720
Fleet so then they're like going to have

1026
00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,920
to do some fairly large uh renovations

1027
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,960
to the buses to extend their life um and

1028
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,440
so that's my understanding of the

1029
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,319
Dilemma BC transit in and we're just

1030
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:07,960
really in an unfortunate situation as I

1031
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,640
said I'm I'm I've U expressed my dis my

1032
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,000
displeasure to to bect that I'm you know

1033
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,359
really disappointed with all the

1034
00:43:16,359 --> 00:43:17,839
planning work we've done our Transit

1035
00:43:17,839 --> 00:43:19,480
future action plan local area Health

1036
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,119
couching plan we did an optimization

1037
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,040
plan to look at could we reallocate ours

1038
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,760
within the region and that came back

1039
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,280
there's winners and losers if you take

1040
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,680
from one region that's not doing well

1041
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,599
and gave it to a region that needs it um

1042
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,520
it's not going to sit well and quite

1043
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,079
frankly the summation said you need

1044
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,480
significant hours so you can't make a

1045
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,040
whole lot of improvement without

1046
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,800
significant hours so they know our

1047
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,720
situation um um that's kind of where

1048
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,839
we're sitting with this and it's going

1049
00:43:48,839 --> 00:43:50,760
to be a little interesting because in

1050
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,079
another couple months we're going to

1051
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,760
come back with the next three-year ask

1052
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,640
in front of you again which typically we

1053
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,480
would roll over the same ask we've asked

1054
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,880
we may even ask to increase that number

1055
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,400
because we're we're getting backlogged

1056
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,640
we were trying to do an improvement in

1057
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,960
2024 one in 2025 one 2026 because we

1058
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,880
don't get anything in 2024 maybe we'll

1059
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,559
put 24 and 25 together but we'll have to

1060
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,119
see what BC Transit is able to do with

1061
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:16,839
uh I know there was various regions and

1062
00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:18,440
many on the island that receive no

1063
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,920
conventional surface expansion either so

1064
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,440
it is just for your information um

1065
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,760
that's the the good news and the bad

1066
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,280
news on expansion thank you I have

1067
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,319
director Stone and then Morrison anyone

1068
00:44:29,319 --> 00:44:30,720
else while I'm looking

1069
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:33,480
around uh well thankful for the ncx

1070
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,240
stuff but I I I recognize based on our

1071
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,680
experience I think it's been proven out

1072
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,559
in elsewhere that unfunctional Roots

1073
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:41,359
don't get ridership right so it's like

1074
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:42,720
the chicken in the egg scenario

1075
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,280
especially those South End routes like

1076
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,079
that milk run is not functional right if

1077
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,839
you're um well it's just like a one-way

1078
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:53,079
Loop right um yeah it's just if you're

1079
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:54,440
if you want to get into town and you're

1080
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,760
on the southbound you know initiating on

1081
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,480
the southbound part of that routee you

1082
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,839
got a long run to get into town you

1083
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,240
better off walk in the other direction

1084
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,079
um so you know I think we all recognize

1085
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:09,839
that and it's been proven out in changes

1086
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:11,880
we've made over the years um I just want

1087
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,520
to ask did the reduction for the ncx

1088
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,119
fair get missed reduction sorry I'm

1089
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:19,440
going to keep pushing on that because

1090
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,520
the number one feedback I get about ncx

1091
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,440
is it's just too expensive I just lost

1092
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,880
an employee yesterday who gave notice

1093
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,640
because the um ncx monthly pass was too

1094
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,200
expensive um and they they live in Nimo

1095
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,280
so um it's hurting people because it's

1096
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,599
just way too expensive um both the

1097
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:40,960
monthly passes and the daily

1098
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,920
fair I think I see the ridership there I

1099
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
see the people on the bus that's great

1100
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,440
but I think we could really fill those

1101
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680
buses and get better cost recovery if we

1102
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,000
could just lower that darn fair I would

1103
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,920
use a different exploitive than darn but

1104
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,800
I'm in a public meeting thanks for not

1105
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,599
using that exploitive

1106
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,440
Mr chair just a response through to

1107
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,000
director Stone I totally Echo your

1108
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,880
comments and totally support it I can

1109
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,400
tell you that we've had our first uh

1110
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,119
meeting with PC transit to go over so

1111
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,200
both regions the the rdn and the cvrd

1112
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,520
we're going through a fair review

1113
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,920
process and we just started our first

1114
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,599
meeting so this is all our Affairs and

1115
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:14,839
we of course have that partnership with

1116
00:46:14,839 --> 00:46:17,440
the ncx um my understanding from both

1117
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,160
staff sides both would like to see a

1118
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,559
reduction of the ncx um we don't know

1119
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:23,280
what that means if you drop it from what

1120
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,040
it is now to what it comes down there

1121
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,119
may be an increase and and probably

1122
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,240
would optimistically of more Riders but

1123
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:31,359
it's going to put a large it's going to

1124
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:32,640
put a burden on the tax base right

1125
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,440
you're not going to receive at all um

1126
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,839
but that process two things we were

1127
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:40,079
reminded by BCT is that our Fair review

1128
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:41,640
would uh which is going to happen over

1129
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,880
the next couple months with the intent

1130
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,160
to um seek board's approval but not to

1131
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,839
commence until April 1 of 2025 and the

1132
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:51,599
reason for that is because the funding

1133
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,520
we got when the pandemic hit the

1134
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,720
province gave us pretty significant

1135
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,640
funding to help us through the ways when

1136
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,440
a ridership went down and the condition

1137
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,920
was you could not increase fairs more

1138
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,319
than 2.3% anom so the most would be a

1139
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:05,559
nickel on Two and a quarter we could

1140
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,079
raise it at nickel which may or may not

1141
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:09,960
be worthwhile at this time it's not a

1142
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,960
significant amount so we all felt with

1143
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,720
it doesn't make sense to bring forth in

1144
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,319
a couple months let's raise fairs

1145
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:17,800
potentially by

1146
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,440
2.3% um it makes more sense to have a

1147
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,640
more uh robust uh Fair adjustments

1148
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,599
whatever those are for April of next

1149
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,319
year the ncx uh interestingly enough uh

1150
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:29,880
Mr Stone as you know is we're

1151
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,280
recommending a reduction staff are

1152
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,319
saying a reduction to BCT so they're

1153
00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:34,920
going through that exercise right now is

1154
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,720
to what would be some various options we

1155
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:39,119
also recognize something you've brought

1156
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:40,760
up in the past is mainly around the

1157
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,559
students the fair for the students is um

1158
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,119
it is a reduction of course from the

1159
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:46,920
regular but we're also looking at what

1160
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
could we do what could they do um to

1161
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,559
propose that both the cvrd and the ardn

1162
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,640
have to agree on right so right now the

1163
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,599
three entities are are targeting April 1

1164
00:47:56,599 --> 00:48:00,000
of next year the ask did go out to BCT

1165
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,119
could we potentially look at the ncx

1166
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:04,160
separately and if it was a reduction

1167
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,280
could we do that and they're still um

1168
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,680
mulling that over so I don't have a

1169
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
particular answer on that for you great

1170
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,000
thank you director Morrison

1171
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,800
next thank you chair um I'm kind of more

1172
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,160
interested in how we can help staff to

1173
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,119
help Seth to uh have some uh

1174
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,839
modification of this uh scoring system

1175
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,680
that you're using because

1176
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,880
it's it's become apparent that um you

1177
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,920
know we've gone through the covid

1178
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,839
recovery phase and and I can tell you

1179
00:48:36,839 --> 00:48:39,359
that from my area's perspective and it's

1180
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:41,720
already been noted about the south end

1181
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,079
that there's you know desperate

1182
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,920
Improvement needed and I I'm saddened

1183
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,559
because the the approach and the views

1184
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,640
about transit in uh in my area is that

1185
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400
it's the absolute Last Resort short that

1186
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,920
people will look to uh Transit as as an

1187
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,040
option and you know we've always tried

1188
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,640
to make uh Transit a viable option for

1189
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
people to you know live work and play

1190
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,720
and and shop and the likes and uh it's

1191
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:15,000
just not viewed that way and and with

1192
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,559
and this is another one of those words

1193
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,280
versus actions because you know clearly

1194
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,200
it looks like the province is really

1195
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,920
interested in transit as uh a key

1196
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,000
component of their Environmental

1197
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,960
strategy and ghg reduction strategy but

1198
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,599
they're leaving entire communities

1199
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,040
behind and and as I said my community

1200
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,599
looks at Transit as well if you really

1201
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:41,520
have to so you know we've got to somehow

1202
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,559
get BC transit to understand that

1203
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,599
investments in these areas will make a

1204
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,440
big difference and we used to joke about

1205
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,319
fuel being at a a buck 50 a lader would

1206
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:56,280
drive people in droves to uh to Transit

1207
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,720
it's 94 a lader going up on April 1st

1208
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:02,640
even higher and uh you know people just

1209
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,839
don't look at it as a viable option so

1210
00:50:04,839 --> 00:50:07,720
anything that we can do to help BC

1211
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:10,119
Transit look at modifying the scoring

1212
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:12,760
system I think is huge because we can't

1213
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,240
continue going along this path of trying

1214
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,680
to make improvements but not have the

1215
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,119
hours thank you more of a comment and a

1216
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,079
question there

1217
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,280
so I can

1218
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
um I give response here I I think the

1219
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,240
position is uh we're we're we're

1220
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,920
supportive of that because I think of

1221
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,200
our residents that are relying on

1222
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,480
Transit and and staff and the board are

1223
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,359
trying to get we we've taxed our

1224
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:39,280
residents we've put it in our budget but

1225
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,359
unfortunately we have to wait for the

1226
00:50:40,359 --> 00:50:41,359
province to tell us what they're going

1227
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:43,599
to do um and so this I said is three

1228
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,839
years in a row of of unsuccessful

1229
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:48,960
attempts and so um we're trying to get a

1230
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,280
better service for our residents we

1231
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,359
can't I have expressed uh when I met

1232
00:50:52,359 --> 00:50:55,200
with Seth last week um saying that there

1233
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,920
there's got to be a different way the BC

1234
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,599
has to look at the regions that did not

1235
00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:01,559
receive conventional service and why

1236
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:03,200
can't they be looked at as sort of the

1237
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,480
first entity but I can't speak for their

1238
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,280
process um it might have Merit uh

1239
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,599
director uh Morrison to potentially the

1240
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:12,880
cvrd write a letter to BCT Andor The

1241
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,880
Province indicating our I don't want to

1242
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,079
put words in your mouth but indicating

1243
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:17,720
sort of our dissatisfaction with what's

1244
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,760
happened for three years in a row and

1245
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,480
how badly we need the transit service

1246
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,079
all the planning that we have worked and

1247
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,839
the hours spent with BC Transit and some

1248
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:27,480
public consultation and First Nations

1249
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,920
group um seems to be just stagnant and

1250
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,599
it's it's really disheartening to go

1251
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:33,760
through it and not wave that you know

1252
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,599
the the the the you know the candy in

1253
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:37,119
front of the in front of the people but

1254
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:38,880
to sort of give them a feeling that yes

1255
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,280
we're going to improve Transit and our

1256
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,280
hands are tied because we can't so it

1257
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,280
might have some Merit in potentially

1258
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,319
writing a letter um that would be the

1259
00:51:47,319 --> 00:51:50,359
committee's uh that be your

1260
00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:52,640
direction your

1261
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,880
pleasure good for good for now we'll

1262
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,280
keep that uh in the back of our minds

1263
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,200
for future

1264
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160
consideration seeing no other

1265
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,960
input thank you very much Mr wakeen

1266
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,799
thank you and with that I I think a

1267
00:52:08,799 --> 00:52:11,200
10-minute break is in order stretch our

1268
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:21,670
legs etc etc so we'll see you back at

1269
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,079
10:50 yeah stabus is running it now so

1270
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,359
yeah it's you know it'll go weave it way

1271
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,200
through the courts and

1272
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:55,510
stuff

1273
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:06,870
yeah

1274
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,319
mention the BC can

1275
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:25,510
May online forums for colle

1276
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,880
officials

1277
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,030
just got it in minutes

1278
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:55,430
ago sounds

1279
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:25,710
good

1280
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:50,430
start

1281
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,280
okay I know Jeff Jeff's daughter and my

1282
00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:25,349
daughter are good friends and

1283
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:55,309
world

1284
00:55:55,319 --> 00:56:25,309
would

1285
00:56:25,319 --> 00:56:50,589
the

1286
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:52,200
I think it's

1287
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,240
okay somebody's got a hot

1288
00:56:55,240 --> 00:57:25,230
mic

1289
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:55,230
I

1290
00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:25,150
e

1291
00:58:25,160 --> 00:59:25,109
for

1292
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:55,029
e

1293
00:59:55,039 --> 01:00:55,029
for

1294
01:00:55,039 --> 01:01:24,950
e

1295
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:54,910
for

1296
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:54,829
e

1297
01:02:54,839 --> 01:03:24,829
for

1298
01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:54,829
e

1299
01:03:54,839 --> 01:04:18,789
for

1300
01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:21,000
are you there director

1301
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,720
marman does the the display look any

1302
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,200
better to you now do you see more people

1303
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:34,190
no I don't even see you

1304
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,760
now come again I could didn't hear

1305
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,680
you sorry I I don't even I know I don't

1306
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,319
see you I just see oh I see you now I

1307
01:04:43,319 --> 01:04:46,200
see you and I see nope you're gone again

1308
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,680
I saw Deborah for a second oh there's

1309
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Deborah you guys are playing with me or

1310
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,079
at well I put on my I took it off I put

1311
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:58,039
it off and I think that's what mle just

1312
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:01,200
did too but I I was having trouble on my

1313
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,000
computer as well I just went up to the

1314
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,359
layout button and started fiddling

1315
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:07,760
around with it and went to full

1316
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,079
screen I don't know if that'll

1317
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:13,000
help I

1318
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,160
quiet very quiet hard to hear you when

1319
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,079
you're speaking me or Deborah both of

1320
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:24,720
you oh okay how am

1321
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,559
I

1322
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,559
can you hear me Tim

1323
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:31,520
yes I think it's something with the

1324
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,480
speakers because it it comes out of this

1325
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,000
speaker but sometimes it comes out of

1326
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,240
those speakers and then right when

1327
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,760
they're talking it stops coming out of

1328
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,400
those speakers so it's the mysteries of

1329
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,039
the boardroom ghost Mysteries I think

1330
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:49,470
we're going to start the hamsters

1331
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,200
again now reconvene into the committee

1332
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,119
of the whole and moving on Miss Harrison

1333
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,960
our next item please uh thank you Mr

1334
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,680
chair our next item is a report from the

1335
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,520
Environmental Services Division

1336
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,799
regarding drinking water and Watershed

1337
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:06,920
Protection Program

1338
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,799
update good

1339
01:06:09,799 --> 01:06:13,440
morning good morning uh Mr chair what I

1340
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,119
just want to just briefly the next two

1341
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:17,200
items are coming from the Environmental

1342
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,720
Services Division and I'll let Mr Moore

1343
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,760
and Mr Lawrence present the uh the uh

1344
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,799
reports there and updates but I also

1345
01:06:25,799 --> 01:06:27,559
wanted to share with the board just that

1346
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:30,279
we are uh in April we'll be we'll be

1347
01:06:30,279 --> 01:06:34,079
commencing our uh corly strategic uh

1348
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,680
reporting so a lot of the information uh

1349
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,920
Rel that is part of the Strategic uh uh

1350
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,400
plan will be begin to be reported out to

1351
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,920
the board in that process as well but we

1352
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,000
wanted to bring this information as a a

1353
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,400
regular update as I know that it is a a

1354
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,799
priority of the board right now and we

1355
01:06:51,799 --> 01:06:53,279
we can certainly answer any questions

1356
01:06:53,279 --> 01:06:55,799
today um but we'll also have some

1357
01:06:55,799 --> 01:06:57,799
regular updates moving forward and I'll

1358
01:06:57,799 --> 01:06:59,920
talk about that in uh during the April

1359
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,599
uh uh meeting there so I'll hand it over

1360
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,359
to Mr Moore for the first uh item there

1361
01:07:06,359 --> 01:07:11,510
thank you very much for the

1362
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,799
introduction okay thank you uh is there

1363
01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:24,549
a way to bring up the presentation

1364
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,960
here

1365
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:37,789
this doesn't seem to control anything

1366
01:07:37,799 --> 01:07:54,510
here it's frozen is

1367
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,750
it

1368
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,920
little technical difficulty just bear

1369
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:18,709
with us and we'll get that up as soon as

1370
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:21,199
possible I I can begin with just a bit

1371
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:23,120
of an introduction uh and try to

1372
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,560
remember what's in the uh the slides

1373
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:25,799
here while we're waiting at and

1374
01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:28,159
hopefully they can catch up uh the the

1375
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:30,600
purpose of this report today is uh is

1376
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,120
just to provide an update to the

1377
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,279
committee on uh some of the activities

1378
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:35,839
we've been doing with the uh drinking

1379
01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:38,040
water and Watershed Protection Program

1380
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,040
and what some of our priorities are for

1381
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:40,799
for

1382
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:45,199
2024 um so uh as a bit of background um

1383
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,679
the the program came into effect uh

1384
01:08:47,679 --> 01:08:50,400
after a successful referendum in 2018

1385
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,839
and then the uh the first step was

1386
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,080
really to uh develop a drinking water

1387
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,120
and Watershed protection uh 10-year plan

1388
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,080
and that was done with a a process that

1389
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,440
involved a community uh input and

1390
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:04,319
Technical working group and that uh that

1391
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:08,960
plan uh came up with uh three program

1392
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,040
areas um basically uh Watershed science

1393
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,319
is one of them that has a lot of the

1394
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,080
focus in terms of actions of learning

1395
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,719
the background and then there's

1396
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:21,080
communicating out that information and

1397
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,080
uh to the public and then taking action

1398
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,400
to make sure that the the science we get

1399
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,600
actually gets used keep

1400
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,149
talking your

1401
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,480
places and within each of those three

1402
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:37,799
program areas there was a series of uh

1403
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:39,799
of priority uh actions that are

1404
01:09:39,799 --> 01:09:41,839
identified so we'll be able to uh to

1405
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:44,880
bring that up uh hopefully here and then

1406
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,799
um recognizing that the these 10e these

1407
01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:49,719
uh priority actions were intended to

1408
01:09:49,719 --> 01:09:51,319
take place over the first 10 years of

1409
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,679
the program um the other thing that came

1410
01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:57,440
out uh was a series of priority uh

1411
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,000
actions that for um IM immediate

1412
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,400
implementation or things that we could

1413
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,400
try to kick off within ideally the first

1414
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,360
two years of the program uh it's been

1415
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,920
going a little longer than that and and

1416
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,480
we're still working on that uh looking

1417
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:11,719
back I see that the the last update that

1418
01:10:11,719 --> 01:10:14,040
was provided to the board was actually

1419
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,159
um in September of 2022 so that would

1420
01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:18,840
have been to the previous board so so

1421
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,800
some of this will be be new to the

1422
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,760
others um basically what we were trying

1423
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,560
to do with the drinking water and

1424
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,199
Watershed Protection Program in the

1425
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,239
initial stages um was uh was staff up

1426
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,880
the program and develop the plans to

1427
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,560
move forward uh the the first item

1428
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,440
within within the priority actions was

1429
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,440
uh was to hire a program coordinator um

1430
01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:43,480
we're still trying to to accomplish that

1431
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,719
it's very challenging to find uh someone

1432
01:10:45,719 --> 01:10:47,280
that has all the skills that we need for

1433
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,640
that uh what we have moved forward with

1434
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,280
is hiring a technician for the program

1435
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,520
um who has been really instrumental in

1436
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,800
uh in moving the pr program forward and

1437
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,920
and seeing that we are starting to get

1438
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,600
out into the field doing the water

1439
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,560
sampling preparing some Outreach

1440
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,960
materials and things like that a couple

1441
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,640
of the other priorities that we've

1442
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,719
completed is some of these plans and

1443
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:12,600
strategies so a uh uh surface water

1444
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,280
quality uh strategy has been completed

1445
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,840
and we're actually implementing that

1446
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,159
we're out in the field uh doing water

1447
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:21,199
quality sampling we're actually out uh

1448
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,360
Monday and Tuesday all day doing the the

1449
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,120
spring sampling so that'll complete our

1450
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,520
first first year of sampling and we're

1451
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,120
really excited to see the results on

1452
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,080
that um the other one was the

1453
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,199
hydrometric uh monitoring strategy

1454
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:34,120
across the region has been completed and

1455
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,280
we're looking at ways to implement that

1456
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,840
um the the third piece that uh we've

1457
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,040
heard a lot of calls for this is uh is

1458
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,520
for the um the groundwater quality

1459
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,360
strategy so that is a high priority item

1460
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,560
for this year and uh the RFQ RFQ for

1461
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,480
that one sorry uh should be going out uh

1462
01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:57,560
any day for that so we hope to move

1463
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,960
forward with that very soon um chase

1464
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,400
this is the other presentation I don't

1465
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,360
know if we can get to the uh the

1466
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:24,229
drinking water

1467
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:36,629
one

1468
01:12:36,639 --> 01:12:49,390
just got to make sure we share

1469
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,560
it good to

1470
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,400
go okay thank you very much I'll skip

1471
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,400
through uh through most of this because

1472
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,080
I have gone through it and I can come

1473
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,310
back if there's any questions on

1474
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,040
it um so uh Ju Just quickly a background

1475
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,480
on the the program itself uh this is the

1476
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,120
goal a fairly simple goal that we're

1477
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,239
looking for healthy watersheds and aqua

1478
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:14,159
but there's a lot behind that there's a

1479
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,719
series of objectives that are intended

1480
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:18,320
to be the steps that we take towards

1481
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,600
meeting that that overall goal of

1482
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,120
healthy watersheds and

1483
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,679
aquifers several guiding principles of

1484
01:13:24,679 --> 01:13:26,600
of how the program operates in terms

1485
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,280
that it it's partnership based and and

1486
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,800
we're a really small division the

1487
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,400
program is still really small so we can

1488
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,199
get a lot more done if we work with

1489
01:13:34,199 --> 01:13:35,719
Community groups that are out there in

1490
01:13:35,719 --> 01:13:37,080
the field and have a lot of the

1491
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,840
expertise the enthusiasm to uh to work

1492
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,440
together with this so uh setting up

1493
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,400
Partnerships to work with with groups in

1494
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,920
the community uh we're action oriented

1495
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,600
and I mentioned this that the uh the

1496
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,280
science that we do the information we

1497
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,440
collect we want it to be used to inform

1498
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:53,560
policy and and planning decisions within

1499
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,639
the region uh adaptive and continuous

1500
01:13:56,639 --> 01:13:58,320
Improvement uh we don't have all the

1501
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,280
information yet our understanding is

1502
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,040
going to change as as we gather more

1503
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,719
information and we try and we learn what

1504
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:06,199
what's going to work uh in terms of

1505
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:08,360
watershed management and uh just

1506
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,679
performance standards that it's

1507
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:12,280
important for this to be be high quality

1508
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,040
I touch briefly on the program areas

1509
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,560
these are the uh the priority actions

1510
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,800
for the first 10 years so so a lot of

1511
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,480
the the really key pieces and then the

1512
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:24,199
uh the priorities for early

1513
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:26,520
implementation so uh catching up where I

1514
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,960
was here that we've filled the tech

1515
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,360
position got the uh surface water

1516
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,000
quality and hydrometric monitoring

1517
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,080
qualities complete and the groundwater

1518
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,120
is a priority for 2024 um in terms of

1519
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,480
setting up a data management strategy

1520
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:42,080
data warehousing and access that's a a

1521
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,080
big piece it's ongoing with a lot of

1522
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,280
connections to uh you know our it

1523
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,199
capacity uh within the cvrd there were

1524
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:50,960
recommendations within the hydrometric

1525
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,480
monitoring strategy there a and some of

1526
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:55,320
the data at at the moment the water

1527
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,840
quality sampling we've partnered with

1528
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,920
the province so that data is all in the

1529
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,639
provincial EMS system and can be shared

1530
01:15:01,639 --> 01:15:03,960
out anyone can go take a look at the

1531
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,760
results that we're

1532
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,960
collecting uh the other priorities for

1533
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,679
early implementation um is identifying

1534
01:15:10,679 --> 01:15:13,120
gaps and existing monitoring networks so

1535
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,040
that this is sort of opportunistic when

1536
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,480
we uh see an opportunity and as we have

1537
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:19,960
more capacity we'll keep building out

1538
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,920
these hydrometric monitoring stations

1539
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,040
whether those are gauges in rivers or or

1540
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,000
monitoring Wells

1541
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,360
establishing Partnerships um so we've

1542
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,920
brought a number of these agreements

1543
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,719
forth to the board already Partnerships

1544
01:15:31,719 --> 01:15:33,360
with the CCH and Watershed board

1545
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,280
shanigan Basin society and the

1546
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,040
partnership for water sustainability and

1547
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,280
BC um and there's still uh possibilities

1548
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,600
for uh for other Partnerships there uh

1549
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,679
we did a preliminary screening on

1550
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:47,800
high-risk watersheds and now we need to

1551
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,440
look at flushing that out but that that

1552
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,520
was the priority uh supporting uh

1553
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,280
planning with the the mocp and where we

1554
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,800
can bring in some of this Watershed

1555
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,040
knowledge uh into the planning process

1556
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,880
is ongoing and then another priority for

1557
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,480
2024 is establishing the technical

1558
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:06,639
advisory team to guide the work of the

1559
01:16:06,639 --> 01:16:09,880
program um there was a a committee to

1560
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,080
develop the the strategy so that needs

1561
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,520
to now evolve into the uh the group to

1562
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,120
monitor the plan and um provide the

1563
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,560
ongoing guidance so we'll be we

1564
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,960
continuing with the terms of reference

1565
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,800
for that and seeking membership to get

1566
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,280
that up and running and then a couple of

1567
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,760
other priorities that weren't on that

1568
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,800
initial list um but have risen to the to

1569
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,760
the top as priorities is things like the

1570
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,800
uh Cella uh Watershed planning process

1571
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,679
participating in that seeing what the uh

1572
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:39,600
the cvr's role is in that really

1573
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,639
exciting process um and continuing on

1574
01:16:42,639 --> 01:16:44,719
with the the work towards replacing the

1575
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:47,480
cin Lake Weir and the other Associated

1576
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:49,360
uh projects to the dmap in terms of

1577
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,080
works in the mid and Lower River um the

1578
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,239
water quality sampling I mentioned uh is

1579
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:57,320
ongoing three times a year on streams

1580
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,239
and rivers and then uh hopefully

1581
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:02,000
expanding that uh into Lake sampling and

1582
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,520
groundwater as well as we have the

1583
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,760
capacity and then exploring other

1584
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,480
opportunities um there there's been a

1585
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:11,280
lot of talk uh that we can look and see

1586
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,239
what opportunities there may be for uh

1587
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:15,960
some sort of incentives for water

1588
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,239
conservation rainwater harvesting

1589
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:21,199
there's a a lot of interest in that so

1590
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,639
if there is some direction we can

1591
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:26,239
explore that and then also uh there's

1592
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:27,600
some opportunities we've just heard

1593
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,840
about meeting with the province uh

1594
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,159
grants for agricultural water storage

1595
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,719
and just looking uh at various uh ways

1596
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:36,400
we can address some of the challenges

1597
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,800
that we know we're experiencing in the

1598
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,719
watersheds particularly around the the

1599
01:17:39,719 --> 01:17:45,990
dro

1600
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,000
situation where we going there okay so

1601
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,440
and that's supposed to say thank you but

1602
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:53,510
I don't see it there

1603
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,880
so questions it's best that you say it

1604
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,280
in person anyway hka hka uh look to the

1605
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:05,280
board I have director ish Das director

1606
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,600
deck director

1607
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,910
Stone so we'll start with this

1608
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,040
stash thank you Mr chair um my question

1609
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,840
in regards to um within this strategy uh

1610
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,400
just because I wasn't at previous board

1611
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,040
meetings was the moderating of uh

1612
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,800
aquafers um what I worked in before

1613
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,800
moving to the a was 20 years actually in

1614
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,800
electric submersible uh Wells and our

1615
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,280
job was to uh my key role was man

1616
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,480
managing and monitoring Reservoir

1617
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:42,159
pressures on on downhole reservoirs so

1618
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:43,960
essentially the aers are reservoirs and

1619
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,320
it seems to be the biggest question that

1620
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,400
we keep getting asked is I I've heard

1621
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,040
the term that our aquifers are okay and

1622
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,280
they're recharging but are we

1623
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,960
monitoring statistics Ally long-term

1624
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,280
downhole and I'm going to use use my

1625
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,880
industry term Reservoir pressures so

1626
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,400
even though it's recharging are we

1627
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,960
seeing a consistent Reservoir pressure

1628
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,800
that's maintaining um just because

1629
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,120
that's the biggest concern with less

1630
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,000
snow pack um possibly that's where a lot

1631
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,000
of our recharging of the aquafers is

1632
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,159
because it's an unsen thing we can see

1633
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:19,400
lakes and rivers rising and dropping but

1634
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,440
we can't see the aquaverse so I'm just

1635
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,000
curious in this is if it's a cvrd rooll

1636
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,800
or is it the min indry that's do we have

1637
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,719
bottom hole pressure monitors

1638
01:19:29,719 --> 01:19:32,080
essentially yeah uh thank you for the

1639
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,719
question and through the chair to to

1640
01:19:33,719 --> 01:19:38,520
director estash um I'm not uh familiar

1641
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,800
with the the technology that's used

1642
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,679
there what I've seen is more water level

1643
01:19:42,679 --> 01:19:44,520
readings in most of the provincial

1644
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,239
observation Wells rather than the

1645
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,400
pressures

1646
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:52,480
itself um so so I'm I can't really speak

1647
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:55,880
to that um we we are uh taking advantage

1648
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,000
of the existing ones and we have the

1649
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,000
hydrometric monitoring strategy which

1650
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,600
has identified um preferred aquifers for

1651
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,159
where we should try to partner with

1652
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:08,040
existing observation Wells um so we've

1653
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,199
been taking steps uh when for example

1654
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:11,840
when we see a development application

1655
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,080
come forward within uh some of these uh

1656
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,840
uh aquifers where we really need more

1657
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,600
information then sometimes that presents

1658
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,480
an opportunity uh to get a right of way

1659
01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:23,600
for a an observation while on the

1660
01:20:23,600 --> 01:21:24,709
property and partner

1661
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:26,320
something we should be measuring to

1662
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,560
inform our our understanding of it and

1663
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,159
our decision

1664
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:39,149
making thank you uh director

1665
01:21:39,159 --> 01:21:42,960
deck um so I I'm just wondering if you

1666
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,600
already know uh the aquifers that you

1667
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,199
perceive to be at most risk or are there

1668
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:52,800
are there some measurements going on

1669
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,440
right now that that you can rely on to

1670
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:02,239
prioritize your well or your aquifer

1671
01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:04,360
monitoring um thank you so through the

1672
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,920
chair to uh to director deck again thank

1673
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,320
you for the the question um the

1674
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,679
hydrometric monitoring strategy that uh

1675
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,400
was prepared a couple of years ago sort

1676
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,560
of looks at the big picture across the

1677
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,080
region and identifies where we have the

1678
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,199
monitoring Wells and where there's

1679
01:22:22,199 --> 01:22:25,280
information and and then um

1680
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,400
so they identify places where there's

1681
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,400
gaps in the information that we do have

1682
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,120
um and then the preliminary risk

1683
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,560
assessment that we had for the water

1684
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,040
watersheds that that was done did uh

1685
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,280
that was one of the factors that was

1686
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,360
included in that was looking at uh

1687
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,560
possible impacts to the to the aquifers

1688
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,040
there within the watersheds but again

1689
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,920
it's quite preliminary um there's been

1690
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,880
some provincial mapping a couple of

1691
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,120
different ones that look at aqua for

1692
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,080
vulnerability uh so one thing that we

1693
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,960
have it's called the DraStic mapping

1694
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,840
that's been done for this region that

1695
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,719
looks at a number of different factors

1696
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:04,840
that affect the aquifer so I mean that's

1697
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,639
something that we could follow up with

1698
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:08,760
uh offline I can give you those

1699
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,080
resources if you're interested in and

1700
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,199
really diving into those details be

1701
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:14,800
Beyond

1702
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:19,000
this um may I ask another question um

1703
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,440
now I I've understood that the severe

1704
01:23:22,440 --> 01:23:27,320
rainstorms don't allow um as much um

1705
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,679
what's what did word did you use now in

1706
01:23:30,679 --> 01:23:33,920
infiltration infiltration thank you um

1707
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,400
so that's not the case

1708
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,159
then uh through the chair uh to the

1709
01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:40,600
director I think there's a lot of

1710
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,159
uncertainty in this U and again it comes

1711
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:46,480
back uh not not only to the intensity of

1712
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,480
the rainfall but on the land cover too

1713
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,639
and how long that water is trapped and

1714
01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:52,440
has is slowed down and has the

1715
01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:55,120
opportunity to infiltrate oh yeah so so

1716
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,880
there's a lot of factors and you know

1717
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,280
the topography and whether it's gravel

1718
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,400
and there's layers of soil and stuff

1719
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,840
there's a lot of factors there uh and we

1720
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,600
don't have evidence for the whole region

1721
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,400
that what we do have is a report that um

1722
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,280
The Province did in the South couch and

1723
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,360
looking at some specific aquifers there

1724
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,880
they found that their their projections

1725
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,280
were increase in water availab

1726
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,000
availability that some of it would make

1727
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,400
it into the aquifer and that would

1728
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,400
outweigh the increased EV Appo

1729
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,000
transpiration from from warmer dryer

1730
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,679
Summers thank you I just one more one

1731
01:24:28,679 --> 01:24:29,880
more

1732
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,480
um okay you went through me this time so

1733
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,189
I'll let you do

1734
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:38,639
it sorry you worship

1735
01:24:38,639 --> 01:24:42,159
um I'm just

1736
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:47,560
uh I'm just wondering too uh if um

1737
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,119
pollutants are part of the the um issue

1738
01:24:51,119 --> 01:24:54,000
that you going to be looking at not just

1739
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,920
how much water is in in the um aquer

1740
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,119
itself yeah and and through the chair

1741
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:01,920
again to the director uh thank you

1742
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,719
that's that's a key part of the the

1743
01:25:03,719 --> 01:25:06,119
groundwater quality strategy piece that

1744
01:25:06,119 --> 01:25:08,960
we're putting out for an RFQ now is what

1745
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,800
do we need to uh to look at what uh

1746
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,639
types of tests should we be doing on the

1747
01:25:13,639 --> 01:25:17,239
water and where do we need to do it um

1748
01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:19,600
all those things the hydrometric was

1749
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,920
looking more at the quantity side so now

1750
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,960
we're trying to bring both pieces

1751
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,000
together looking for opportunities where

1752
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,960
you can get both types of information

1753
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,719
out of the same infrastructure you know

1754
01:25:29,719 --> 01:25:31,159
like we have a monitoring well that we

1755
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:33,400
can also take water samples from and

1756
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,239
things like that thank you thank you

1757
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:39,080
director Stone next please uh thank you

1758
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,280
and and just compliments to our

1759
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,360
colleagues on asking good questions um I

1760
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,280
just wanted to to compliment staff on

1761
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,520
the you know the maturation of the the

1762
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,639
function um and the the growing sort of

1763
01:25:51,639 --> 01:25:53,760
breadth of information in detail that's

1764
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,199
being

1765
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:58,840
um collected and and also recognizing

1766
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,560
though that it's never enough and it's

1767
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,080
never fast enough um just like we're

1768
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,600
really concerned about both the

1769
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,119
quantitative and qualitative

1770
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:09,400
measurements of water in the region

1771
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,960
um you know the data that we have to

1772
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,159
support decisions going forward and you

1773
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:15,760
know reflecting on you know supporting

1774
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,000
ocp processes and providing supportive

1775
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,719
information to municipalities during

1776
01:26:19,719 --> 01:26:22,040
their land use planning processes is a

1777
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,400
big part of the drinking water and

1778
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,920
Watershed protection function um and I

1779
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,080
and I hope that we continue to gain

1780
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,480
momentum you know as we sort of put some

1781
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,760
of these um you know sort of data points

1782
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,600
and get these Baseline measurements and

1783
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,679
stuff that we're able to continue to not

1784
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:42,480
only Monitor and measure the the trends

1785
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:44,880
in those areas but continue to broaden

1786
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,520
throughout the region the understanding

1787
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,560
that we have around water but I was just

1788
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,199
struck by kind of reading it through and

1789
01:26:50,199 --> 01:26:52,520
going like this actually feels like

1790
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,360
something with a bit of substance to it

1791
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,800
and I'm looking forward to how it folds

1792
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,119
into the bigger strategic plan but I'm

1793
01:26:58,119 --> 01:26:59,719
just thankful that we're we're getting

1794
01:26:59,719 --> 01:27:02,280
to that point where it's maturing to a

1795
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,840
point of some some usefulness if you

1796
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,920
will um because I know that um you know

1797
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,239
I'm glad actually that it's not like a

1798
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:13,119
conversation that you have on community

1799
01:27:13,119 --> 01:27:14,840
that feels like cuz I remember when this

1800
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,840
function came forward for the referendum

1801
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,719
um there was a lot of sort of push back

1802
01:27:19,719 --> 01:27:22,480
on taxing at a local level to get this

1803
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:24,719
information and now he's just seeing how

1804
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:26,440
fundamental it is and then when you talk

1805
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:28,639
to people about growth pressures and

1806
01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:30,960
development the first question and the

1807
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,639
last question is always about water so

1808
01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:37,440
um it it just shows the wisdom of the

1809
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,159
the boards of the day and staff that

1810
01:27:39,159 --> 01:27:40,600
brought forward this function and the

1811
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,679
importance of it so I just thankful for

1812
01:27:42,679 --> 01:27:43,440
that

1813
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:46,679
thanks alternate director Harriet thank

1814
01:27:46,679 --> 01:27:50,880
you um just to make some comments to um

1815
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,199
preference my questions but just to make

1816
01:27:53,199 --> 01:27:55,360
sure I did spend some time with director

1817
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,320
Wilson over the weekend just to make

1818
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,760
sure my comments reflect his concerns

1819
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,480
and we won't hold that against you okay

1820
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:07,119
um so I I was act as a I'm a trustee of

1821
01:28:07,119 --> 01:28:08,840
the Cobble Hill improvement district

1822
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,520
which provides water to Cobble Hill and

1823
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,400
in that capacity our chair and myself

1824
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,239
actually participated in the community

1825
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:17,080
and

1826
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,119
advisory um group um that developed the

1827
01:28:21,119 --> 01:28:23,800
strategy and and I'm glad Mr M touched

1828
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,520
on it because one of the common themes

1829
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,159
in that discussion in that group was

1830
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:30,960
because as director Stone mentioned

1831
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,840
there was a lot of push back on on the

1832
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,159
function we needed to show some

1833
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:41,480
tangible actionable items right away and

1834
01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:44,679
hence the key key priorities so it it is

1835
01:28:44,679 --> 01:28:47,280
a bit unfortunate that things have been

1836
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,760
slower um and two of the ones that were

1837
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,119
one's important to me particularly but

1838
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:55,320
one was important to the the group was a

1839
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,199
uh to make sure the coordinator position

1840
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:59,639
was filled because anything like this

1841
01:28:59,639 --> 01:29:01,560
requires a champion and if you don't

1842
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,520
have a champion it can kind of fall um

1843
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,320
so I have a couple questions any idea

1844
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,000
when the coordinator Position will be

1845
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,920
filled um through the chair to the oh

1846
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,639
sorry I did it myself no no you were

1847
01:29:15,639 --> 01:29:17,639
fine you were fine through the the chair

1848
01:29:17,639 --> 01:29:19,960
chair the director and Mr postings can

1849
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,320
can chime in with this as well but um we

1850
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,840
we're finding it very challenging to

1851
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,320
find someone that had all the

1852
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,400
qualifications you we had a couple of

1853
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,080
Staff members who who didn't uh last in

1854
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,800
the position and other times we weren't

1855
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,679
able to fill it so rather than not

1856
01:29:34,679 --> 01:29:36,639
getting anywhere we made the decision to

1857
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:38,880
move forward with a technician and you

1858
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,520
we had some of the plans in place so uh

1859
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,360
she's been very capable with being able

1860
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,000
to uh to implement it um moving forward

1861
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,760
we're uh we're seeing if there's going

1862
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,239
to be uh anything that informs this from

1863
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:53,560
uh the organizational review uh piece

1864
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,760
that's going on whe whether uh the the

1865
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,280
role of the the program is going to

1866
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,960
change but we would like to to move

1867
01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:01,560
forward with filling some sort of

1868
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,960
leadership position within the the

1869
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,639
drinking water and Watership uh drinking

1870
01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:08,679
water and Watershed Protection Program

1871
01:30:08,679 --> 01:30:11,760
as soon as we can thank you a followup

1872
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,719
um yeah another comment um particularly

1873
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:16,520
due to our concerns in Cobble Hill

1874
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,880
because as you probably know we have

1875
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,199
some nitrate concerns in the groundwater

1876
01:30:22,199 --> 01:30:26,480
so um getting the strategy up and going

1877
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:30,080
through the chair to Mr Moore um when do

1878
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,320
you anticipate the groundwater strategy

1879
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,960
being um getting up to up and running

1880
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,000
and

1881
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,119
implemented um again through the chair

1882
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:42,800
to the director uh the RFQ is

1883
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:47,320
anticipated to go out uh within days um

1884
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,480
and uh the the timeline that we're

1885
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:51,360
looking at is for it to be completed by

1886
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,280
the end of this year in terms of the

1887
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,520
having the strategy in place um the

1888
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,480
actions and the implementation will

1889
01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:00,199
that'll depend on what the plan tells us

1890
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:02,600
we need what resources are required and

1891
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,679
we'll be bringing that uh to the back to

1892
01:31:04,679 --> 01:31:06,080
the committee and to the board looking

1893
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,960
for for direction on how to implement

1894
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,239
the recommendations whatever they may be

1895
01:31:11,239 --> 01:31:13,159
you had one more I gave director deck

1896
01:31:13,159 --> 01:31:15,040
three so I must give you three okay I've

1897
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,440
got a few more but I'll come back to it

1898
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:20,280
um and it goes along with what director

1899
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,119
isach was mentioning is incorporating

1900
01:31:23,119 --> 01:31:24,560
the other

1901
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,760
um the other uh monitoring sites that

1902
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,080
are are in the area already and there

1903
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,480
are several and some that the cvrd have

1904
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:36,040
put in but there's also a couple

1905
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,679
provincial ones and two specifically I

1906
01:31:38,679 --> 01:31:40,480
know director Wilson's had some

1907
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:43,800
discussion with with staff about these

1908
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,960
um it's unfortunate there's two that are

1909
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,080
currently monitoring one's monitoring

1910
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:53,040
aquifer 197 and one's monitoring aquifer

1911
01:31:53,040 --> 01:32:54,510
202

1912
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,000
that that's one of the big pieces that

1913
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,960
we're trying to look at the best data

1914
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,360
warehouse for that if we have capacity

1915
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,800
to bring that in or if we can take

1916
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,400
advantage of the provincial uh systems

1917
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,000
that are bringing it in and you've

1918
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,320
identified some of the limitations uh

1919
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,840
with those systems so um recognizing

1920
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,960
those challenges and if that represents

1921
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,040
a limitation in a particular device then

1922
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,840
maybe a simpler approaches to uh look at

1923
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,440
improving that measurement device rather

1924
01:33:22,440 --> 01:33:24,000
than going to a whole new one and

1925
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,239
another location so I th those kind of

1926
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,679
priorities are things that we would hope

1927
01:33:28,679 --> 01:33:31,639
to see in the strategy thank you I do

1928
01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:33,400
have a growing speakers list I have

1929
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,840
director Nicholson director Sagal

1930
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,800
director martman director deck director

1931
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,000
Morrison I'll go director Morrison first

1932
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,800
because he hasn't spoken yet but first

1933
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,920
of all director

1934
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,719
Nicholson thank you very much thank you

1935
01:33:47,719 --> 01:33:49,800
so much for the update um I really

1936
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:54,320
appreciate it water um water is you know

1937
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:55,840
it's just it's very much like the

1938
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,880
homeless situation it's one of those

1939
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,639
really big issues but it also is kind of

1940
01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:03,239
hidden until you have a real problem and

1941
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:04,639
so maybe it's a little bit more

1942
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:06,199
challenging than the homelessness

1943
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:07,880
problem but I think it's something that

1944
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,840
we need to take keep on top of um and

1945
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,960
it's it's going to be the environment is

1946
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,639
going to keep changing

1947
01:34:15,639 --> 01:34:18,320
so I think that the most important part

1948
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,880
of this program um good information is

1949
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,520
important but I also think Partnerships

1950
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,080
are going to be really key to being

1951
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,600
successful because we have to work with

1952
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,320
all the people in the community that are

1953
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,440
working on water and it crosses

1954
01:34:30,440 --> 01:34:32,600
jurisdictions and it crosses UH

1955
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,960
responsibilities a lot so we really need

1956
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,440
to take advantage of our uh very active

1957
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,159
stewardship community and I'm thinking

1958
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:42,480
as long as we don't have the coordinator

1959
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,560
position um in place I think this

1960
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,119
technical guiding team should be a

1961
01:34:47,119 --> 01:34:49,480
really high priority to get established

1962
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:51,159
because we've been five years into this

1963
01:34:51,159 --> 01:34:53,040
program now and it would really make me

1964
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,400
feel good if we had a community-based um

1965
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,880
partnership with other people on Guiding

1966
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,880
the program and what the priorities

1967
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,840
ought to be because I know things are

1968
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,639
changing rapidly um I'm also curious as

1969
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:09,280
to the um results on the your

1970
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,600
preliminary preliminary screening um of

1971
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,520
watersheds and where the risks are and

1972
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,360
I'm wondering if I could we could I

1973
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,080
could get that information I don't think

1974
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,239
I've seen it I I think that that's

1975
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:22,840
something that that we as a region

1976
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,600
really need to pay attention to is where

1977
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,239
are the biggest risks on water um as we

1978
01:35:27,239 --> 01:35:30,520
move forward on this issue of

1979
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,159
potentially a regional growth strategy

1980
01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:36,719
but even without that each of our

1981
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:38,440
jurisdictions need to understand where

1982
01:35:38,440 --> 01:35:40,520
the biggest risks are so we develop

1983
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:41,520
wisely

1984
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:42,880
[Music]

1985
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,600
um yeah I guess I'll stop there thank

1986
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,639
you thank you very much director Seagal

1987
01:35:47,639 --> 01:35:48,560
next

1988
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,000
please thank you through the chair to Mr

1989
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,440
Moore I'm wonder if you could just

1990
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:55,040
comment on um relationships with

1991
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,800
different provincial Ministries and

1992
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,040
information sharing um I know just in my

1993
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,880
area there's a number of new commercial

1994
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,280
well licenses that have been

1995
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,560
approved but they um require extensive

1996
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,440
monitoring plans that regulate the

1997
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,560
rolling out of development um as well as

1998
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,920
with treaty negotiations and groundwater

1999
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,480
rights there's extensive hydrogeology

2000
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:21,199
reports you know done in specific areas

2001
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:23,520
so just wondering if we can access that

2002
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,920
and so that we avoid duplicating that

2003
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,119
kind of

2004
01:36:28,119 --> 01:36:30,719
information yeah through the chair to

2005
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:32,880
director seal uh thank you yes uh we

2006
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,360
work very closely with uh a number of

2007
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,679
the provincial agencies and uh they they

2008
01:36:37,679 --> 01:36:39,679
keep change the responsibility shifts so

2009
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:42,880
it's different agencies now but uh yeah

2010
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,000
a couple of examples was the the report

2011
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,560
on the the water budget for the South

2012
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,560
cin was an example where we actually

2013
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,800
contributed some money to that report so

2014
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,520
that they could add a component looking

2015
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:54,280
at

2016
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,280
what things are going to look like in

2017
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,840
the future with climate change so

2018
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,679
bringing our climate projections in um

2019
01:36:59,679 --> 01:37:01,360
in terms of the water quality sampling

2020
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,320
that we're doing right now um Island

2021
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,119
Health is uh looking at those results

2022
01:37:06,119 --> 01:37:08,360
and doing some preliminary analysis and

2023
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:09,760
now that we have the once we have the

2024
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,840
spring sampling results back in a few

2025
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,080
weeks they'll be able to look at a

2026
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,239
Year's worth of of data and and see some

2027
01:37:15,239 --> 01:37:17,520
of these Trends um so and it's being

2028
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,400
brought into the provincial system um

2029
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,440
some of these very site specific ones um

2030
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:25,040
would probably take a little more

2031
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,320
investigating to make sure that you know

2032
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,920
if they are being brought into the the

2033
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,360
provincial system that we want to

2034
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,159
capture that and make sure those results

2035
01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:34,119
are available to you know whomever is

2036
01:37:34,119 --> 01:37:35,800
looking at them in terms of a big

2037
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,560
picture analysis so that

2038
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,280
concludes uh moving online to director

2039
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,320
martman to speak about his underwater

2040
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:44,760
Lake I'm

2041
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,599
sure yes of course and that's my first

2042
01:37:47,599 --> 01:37:49,320
question I have two questions chair if

2043
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,000
you don't mind uh and thank you Mr Moore

2044
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,960
very appreciate the uh the background

2045
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,920
and also you know where where we're at

2046
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,760
and where we're going particularly this

2047
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,760
year I just it's not clear though in any

2048
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,080
of the material are read about where the

2049
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,320
you know the Cassidy water shed and the

2050
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,159
Cassidy aqu fits into the plans within

2051
01:38:11,159 --> 01:38:11,800
the

2052
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,800
cvrd um wonder if you can help me with

2053
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,639
that and I have a second question after

2054
01:38:17,639 --> 01:38:20,760
that um yeah through the chair to

2055
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,520
director martman um I'm a apologize I

2056
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,440
don't have all the details of which

2057
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:29,880
aquafers um are recommended for which

2058
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,800
types of monitoring and stuff but uh

2059
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,119
definitely the Cassidy aquafer we we did

2060
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:37,400
consider all the aquafers within the the

2061
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,000
region in in terms of developing the uh

2062
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,159
um hydrometric strategy looking at at

2063
01:38:43,159 --> 01:38:45,400
the quantity there and um I would

2064
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,800
anticipate that uh the quality

2065
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,599
groundwater quality is we all know it's

2066
01:38:50,599 --> 01:38:53,080
a a concern in in the yellow Point area

2067
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,639
and with the capity aquifer so we'd be

2068
01:38:55,639 --> 01:38:57,159
uh seeing something coming out of that

2069
01:38:57,159 --> 01:38:59,550
as

2070
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,440
well follow up you thanks for that yeah

2071
01:39:02,440 --> 01:39:04,480
I and the follow-up and I I appreciate

2072
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:05,920
all the questions from all the other

2073
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,880
directors and my question is more around

2074
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:13,760
what the board can do to help um

2075
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,960
complement or achieve some of the goals

2076
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,880
within this um within this area and and

2077
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,719
one of the things I think about is what

2078
01:39:23,719 --> 01:39:25,880
what we might be buying or purchasing in

2079
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:27,679
the future around

2080
01:39:27,679 --> 01:39:30,480
properties and what parts of what you're

2081
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,639
doing can help inform that type of

2082
01:39:33,639 --> 01:39:35,800
decision making particularly as very

2083
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,599
trying to create strategies around you

2084
01:39:38,599 --> 01:39:40,719
know I use the the very general term of

2085
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:43,040
Parkland acquisition meaning that you

2086
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,440
know it's it's areas and of of different

2087
01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:49,199
parts of our region that could be very

2088
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:51,800
useful and supporting drinking water and

2089
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,360
Watershed protection so wondering if is

2090
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,280
that technical advisory the part that we

2091
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,440
need up in place or do we need other

2092
01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:03,030
other things in place from your

2093
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,080
perspective um yeah through the chair to

2094
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,119
uh to director martman

2095
01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:10,679
um I think that raises a lot of really

2096
01:40:10,679 --> 01:40:12,800
interesting points and it's great to see

2097
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,400
uh support uh from the directors and

2098
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,360
wanting to be engaged too because that

2099
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,760
really helps us out

2100
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:24,080
um in terms uh one of the

2101
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,000
points that that really comes to mind

2102
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,960
and it it touches on what we heard in

2103
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,920
the public input period too is the

2104
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,840
importance of communication and the

2105
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,639
education piece that that fits into this

2106
01:40:35,639 --> 01:40:37,679
drinking water and Watershed protection

2107
01:40:37,679 --> 01:40:42,040
strategy and um you know a lot of uh the

2108
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,239
directors having such you know extensive

2109
01:40:45,239 --> 01:40:47,880
ties within the community you know we

2110
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,239
might be able to uh look for some ideas

2111
01:40:50,239 --> 01:40:52,360
of how to better communicate a lot of

2112
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,360
this information out

2113
01:40:55,360 --> 01:41:02,159
um and uh also uh um just uh other ways

2114
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:05,280
of sharing the uh the the information um

2115
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,560
out to the community um and in terms of

2116
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,159
the uh the the land piece I I could see

2117
01:41:12,159 --> 01:41:14,440
a possibility that that one factor that

2118
01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:16,280
that might come up is if we identify

2119
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:20,440
areas that are particularly um sensitive

2120
01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:22,119
for a groundwater surface water

2121
01:41:22,119 --> 01:41:23,800
interaction so if there was any area

2122
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,280
that we knew was just amazing for uh

2123
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,920
groundwater recharge that you know lots

2124
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:30,679
of water accumulates there there's nice

2125
01:41:30,679 --> 01:41:33,440
gravel it gets down into the uh into the

2126
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:35,840
aquifer then that might be a factor for

2127
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,480
hey you know this this is an area that's

2128
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:40,000
important whether that looks at uh at

2129
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,199
purchasing it or or ensuring that it's

2130
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:44,159
an environmentally sensitive feature

2131
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:45,599
that gets uh preserved when

2132
01:41:45,599 --> 01:41:47,840
development's considered in that area I

2133
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,639
think that's another important

2134
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:55,990
piece that concludes director marman

2135
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,199
I think we've lost him so I guess it

2136
01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:00,480
does uh looking yes it does thank you

2137
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:04,080
chair okay thank you very much director

2138
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,719
Morrison thank you chair through you

2139
01:42:07,719 --> 01:42:10,719
um I don't know exactly how to put this

2140
01:42:10,719 --> 01:42:14,040
but it's it's a concern around scope

2141
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,760
creep and and maybe a little bit about

2142
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,000
what uh director Sagal was was uh

2143
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,040
starting to uh inquire about so I you

2144
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,199
know but fully supportive of of this

2145
01:42:26,199 --> 01:42:28,639
Department's initiatives and this

2146
01:42:28,639 --> 01:42:31,400
particular um function that that we have

2147
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,000
and I know that uh I think uh someone

2148
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,239
mentioned earlier that there was some

2149
01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:39,000
push back initially and I'm really

2150
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,520
thrilled to see all of the different

2151
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,800
areas of of study that's going on I

2152
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,719
think it's great it's helping to make us

2153
01:42:47,719 --> 01:42:49,880
better at our decision making because

2154
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,800
we've got access to not only more but

2155
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:53,960
more accur

2156
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,719
information but I I wonder too where

2157
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:02,520
that line is that imaginary line between

2158
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,880
Regional District uh you know

2159
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,639
self-imposed responsibilities and those

2160
01:43:08,639 --> 01:43:12,440
of other orders of government and I I

2161
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:15,639
guess what I'm asking is do you and

2162
01:43:15,639 --> 01:43:17,800
staff know where that line is and are

2163
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,199
you staying on your side of it because I

2164
01:43:20,199 --> 01:43:22,800
I get the sense that you know your

2165
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,840
success is going to breed more success

2166
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,320
and more requests for uh additional

2167
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,880
information so are you comfortable where

2168
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,480
you're operating now and do you see

2169
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:36,679
increased pressures and will that spill

2170
01:43:36,679 --> 01:43:39,400
over into what maybe other jurisdiction

2171
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:43,000
or other orders of government's

2172
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,119
jurisdiction yeah through the chair to

2173
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:47,119
director Morrison some some excellent

2174
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:48,760
questions there and definitely some

2175
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,280
things to think about um we are seeing

2176
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,440
you know Perhaps Perhaps some examples

2177
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,840
of this as director seigal alluded to

2178
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,719
the uh the Water license uh applications

2179
01:43:58,719 --> 01:44:00,040
that are coming in and they're quite

2180
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,560
often ones that get referred uh to the

2181
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,440
cvd so we we could imagine a situation

2182
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:07,480
where we have quite a bit of information

2183
01:44:07,480 --> 01:44:10,520
about water supply in the area that's

2184
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,320
informing those decisions and you know

2185
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,760
should that be coming from us or should

2186
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,040
it be coming from the province who who

2187
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,320
is the uh the decision maker with

2188
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,119
regards uh to

2189
01:44:20,119 --> 01:44:23,960
licenses U so there's definitely uh

2190
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,320
uh some some gray area there another way

2191
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,000
is that you know we want to gather

2192
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,560
information from a lot of broad

2193
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,440
different sources not just for those

2194
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,719
specific water licensing questions but

2195
01:44:35,719 --> 01:44:38,320
hopefully to inform the broader uh big

2196
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:42,199
picture of watershed management um so so

2197
01:44:42,199 --> 01:44:44,159
there's the the information we're

2198
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,239
collecting isn't limited to that one one

2199
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:49,360
purpose so there's definitely some pros

2200
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,599
and cons there would be something I see

2201
01:44:51,599 --> 01:44:53,239
um at the moment we we're working

2202
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:55,199
working quite cooperatively with the the

2203
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:59,080
various um agencies and organizations

2204
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,520
and trying to share information and as

2205
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,239
best we POS as we best we possibly can

2206
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:06,400
um that that is probably a question that

2207
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,239
you know as we develop a a technical

2208
01:45:09,239 --> 01:45:11,639
advisory or or oversight committee and

2209
01:45:11,639 --> 01:45:13,679
with you know regular check-ins to the

2210
01:45:13,679 --> 01:45:16,800
board that we would hope to keep that

2211
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,639
you know within our lane of where we

2212
01:45:18,639 --> 01:45:20,679
should be and we would get some

2213
01:45:20,679 --> 01:45:23,920
oversight if we were starting to stray

2214
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,639
thank you any other first time speakers

2215
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:30,400
before I go to my list of second

2216
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,599
round see none I have director deck and

2217
01:45:33,599 --> 01:45:35,040
then director

2218
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,880
Harriet thank you chair sure you um I'm

2219
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:44,679
just wondering about um contamination of

2220
01:45:44,679 --> 01:45:48,719
aquifers and I and just in general not

2221
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:50,719
anyone in particular

2222
01:45:50,719 --> 01:45:53,760
just so the enforcement

2223
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,679
of of fines or

2224
01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:01,080
mitigation that is the responsibility of

2225
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,880
the provincial government am I correct

2226
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,480
so

2227
01:46:05,480 --> 01:46:09,719
how how does that relationship work in

2228
01:46:09,719 --> 01:46:13,960
terms of of um follow following up are

2229
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,280
is the provincial government following

2230
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,159
up with you on these kinds of issues how

2231
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:22,920
you know how does that work yeah um

2232
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,239
through the chair to uh to director deck

2233
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:28,239
um we haven't had um really a specific

2234
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:29,760
instance where we you know we've got a

2235
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,840
water um Quality well and all of a

2236
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,639
sudden some toxin shows up in there and

2237
01:46:35,639 --> 01:46:37,320
you know there's a real concern so so we

2238
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,679
haven't had that if that was the case

2239
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,320
you know if we identified any source of

2240
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:42,880
pollution regardless of where it's

2241
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,400
coming from then we would report that to

2242
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,960
the provincial authorities who um have

2243
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,199
the responsibility to follow up on it um

2244
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:54,599
a lot of what we would try to capture

2245
01:46:54,599 --> 01:46:57,480
with the uh the groundwater quality it

2246
01:46:57,480 --> 01:46:59,639
might not be those Point sources of

2247
01:46:59,639 --> 01:47:02,719
pollution um but just a broader picture

2248
01:47:02,719 --> 01:47:05,560
uh you know it could be from not from

2249
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,679
one specific location but just well

2250
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:09,280
there's industrial activity or there's

2251
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,040
agricultural activity and some sort of

2252
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,280
runoff and you know the these big

2253
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,080
picture ones we're more likely to find

2254
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,360
rather than a very targeted one if we

2255
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,320
did we would certainly it would be the

2256
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,040
province that would follow

2257
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,960
up alternate director Harriet thank you

2258
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,080
um another comment I I meant to mention

2259
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,080
before my last one was that

2260
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:37,000
um I did enter into that Advisory Group

2261
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,480
with a a little bit of skepticism and

2262
01:47:39,480 --> 01:47:43,119
cynicism being a a cynic um but I must

2263
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:45,520
say that's one of the best processes

2264
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,360
that I've ever gone through the staff

2265
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,760
and I I don't think any of the staff are

2266
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,239
still here that we part of that but the

2267
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,599
cvrd St staff and the Consultants did a

2268
01:47:54,599 --> 01:47:56,800
very good job and at the end they asked

2269
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,119
us what our impression was and to go

2270
01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:02,880
along with the question that um director

2271
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,520
Morrison asked was it was pretty much a

2272
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,679
consensus that we felt it was a great

2273
01:48:08,679 --> 01:48:10,840
process provided we stick to those

2274
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:14,040
priorities and and follow that direction

2275
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,119
that we laid out and through the chair

2276
01:48:18,119 --> 01:48:20,480
uh a question i' would be remiss if I

2277
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:22,199
didn't ask this question for director

2278
01:48:22,199 --> 01:48:24,560
Wilson do you know how much of the

2279
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,599
budget has been spent to date and and

2280
01:48:27,599 --> 01:48:31,320
what's what uh what's

2281
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:36,159
remaining um through the on the spot uh

2282
01:48:36,159 --> 01:48:37,560
of the overall

2283
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:41,320
dww how much been spent to date um on

2284
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,679
the initiative yeah yeah uh I don't have

2285
01:48:44,679 --> 01:48:46,520
the the numbers across the whole uh

2286
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,239
program I I know largely because we

2287
01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:51,960
haven't had the capacity we haven't uh

2288
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,520
been spending all the uh the money that

2289
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,000
has been allocated within the budget U

2290
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,280
part of that's just having vacant

2291
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:59,920
positions that obviously we're not

2292
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:02,599
paying out the salaries um and and in

2293
01:49:02,599 --> 01:49:05,599
some cases uh we haven't you know a lot

2294
01:49:05,599 --> 01:49:07,960
of the budget had been uh allocated

2295
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,480
towards some Capital infrastructure in

2296
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:12,080
terms of installing hydrometric

2297
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:14,000
monitoring stations or or climate

2298
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,920
stations and stuff um the those are

2299
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:19,639
funds that haven't been expended yet so

2300
01:49:19,639 --> 01:49:21,639
those are going into to reserve for when

2301
01:49:21,639 --> 01:49:23,520
we have the opportunity ities in the

2302
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,800
capacity to to do more with it you know

2303
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:27,080
we've been kind of focusing on the

2304
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,599
pieces that we can do where we're um

2305
01:49:29,599 --> 01:49:32,000
getting the strategies and plans in

2306
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,480
place through the chair is is it

2307
01:49:34,480 --> 01:49:36,080
possible to get that number at some

2308
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,199
point yeah yeah we can certainly follow

2309
01:49:38,199 --> 01:49:39,920
up with that and if you can give me any

2310
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:41,159
you know parameters on you know we can

2311
01:49:41,159 --> 01:49:43,599
give you last year's numbers sure okay

2312
01:49:43,599 --> 01:49:49,149
thank you thank you I have someone

2313
01:49:49,159 --> 01:49:51,960
online director mclinton please I was

2314
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,480
just going to ask you what my name

2315
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:56,920
was it came up on the screen so

2316
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,840
everything's good thank you chair uh

2317
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:04,480
through you um a kind of a a big picture

2318
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:06,119
question you know might be a little

2319
01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:08,000
challenging to answer but I I'm be

2320
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,800
looking for your your personal opinion

2321
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,040
on it you know I mean at least in my

2322
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,840
community and folks I talk with um you

2323
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,880
know the the thought is we live in a

2324
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,320
temperate rainforest and you know we've

2325
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:21,760
we've got some pretty good water and

2326
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,639
then a lot of the stuff we talk around

2327
01:50:23,639 --> 01:50:26,080
at the board table is you know concerns

2328
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,880
about aquafer Supply you know those

2329
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,639
sorts of things I'm just wondering you

2330
01:50:31,639 --> 01:50:33,280
know both in terms of quantity and

2331
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,159
quality you know maybe you could just

2332
01:50:35,159 --> 01:50:37,800
offer up your your personal opinion on

2333
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,639
how we stack up to other jurisdictions

2334
01:50:41,639 --> 01:50:43,960
and and then the F the second part of

2335
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,480
that question do you see any

2336
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:50,840
immediate concerns red flags things that

2337
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,560
uh you know from your person doing the

2338
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,440
work on the ground that you know that we

2339
01:50:56,440 --> 01:51:00,270
should be putting immediate attention

2340
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,360
to okay uh yeah through the chair to uh

2341
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,760
to director mclinton

2342
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,480
um those are some uh some big picture

2343
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:11,480
questions um it it's with our region

2344
01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:13,840
it's really hard to give a a single

2345
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,000
answer as to how it looks because it

2346
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,480
it's very uh varied across the region

2347
01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:20,960
depending on where our water sources

2348
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,239
come from so uh you know unlike some

2349
01:51:23,239 --> 01:51:25,960
other jurisdictions where all the water

2350
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,119
comes from a single large Reservoir up

2351
01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:30,320
in the mountains and it's very easy to

2352
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,960
to understand how much water is

2353
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:35,840
available um we have dozens of small

2354
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,560
water systems spread across the region

2355
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,440
um some like Sal a come from surface

2356
01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:43,159
water um where you know we've got

2357
01:51:43,159 --> 01:51:45,239
stocking Lake it's pretty easy to

2358
01:51:45,239 --> 01:51:48,480
understand uh that system most of our

2359
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:50,639
water actually comes from groundwater

2360
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:52,960
within the region um most of the the

2361
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,000
larger Community Systems are come from

2362
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,159
groundwater and um then outside of the

2363
01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:01,599
Community Systems most uh residents rely

2364
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:04,440
on their their own individual Wells and

2365
01:52:04,440 --> 01:52:07,760
it's a lot trickier to get a a bigger

2366
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,119
picture of that because it depends so

2367
01:52:10,119 --> 01:52:13,560
much on the the specific Wells um in in

2368
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,800
addition to the overall aquafer picture

2369
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,079
um on a a broad brush across the whole

2370
01:52:20,079 --> 01:52:22,000
region the all you know the larger

2371
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,360
systems are saying that they're in

2372
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,520
pretty good shape um you know there

2373
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,320
seems to be a decent amount of water

2374
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,880
available um there are definitely some

2375
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,199
exceptions where we've had uh a number

2376
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:34,840
of our water systems and some of the

2377
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,199
smaller ones especially uh where we have

2378
01:52:37,199 --> 01:52:39,760
had to truck water in uh from the provin

2379
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,880
or from other neighboring systems when

2380
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,840
we're uh in real drought conditions um

2381
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,880
and then outside of our cvrd systems um

2382
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,960
we're we are all aware of huge pressures

2383
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,800
on water supplies that we're seeing

2384
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,360
especially in the coke Silo we're also

2385
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,800
seeing um a lot of it in yellow point

2386
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,040
and in other areas where where there's

2387
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:02,239
development pressures that uh there's uh

2388
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,239
definitely not enough water to go around

2389
01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:06,679
to meet all these demands so so a lot of

2390
01:53:06,679 --> 01:53:08,480
the water systems are generally in good

2391
01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:10,599
shape but it's a lot of the other the

2392
01:53:10,599 --> 01:53:13,040
other users and some of the smaller

2393
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,760
systems that really need

2394
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:17,840
support thank you if I could just get

2395
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,199
you to turn your microphone off D sorry

2396
01:53:20,199 --> 01:53:21,159
dor

2397
01:53:21,159 --> 01:53:24,800
har any further questions comments I

2398
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,440
think what the um interest from the

2399
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:30,079
director shows is that water has no

2400
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:32,119
boundaries no Municipal boundaries just

2401
01:53:32,119 --> 01:53:35,000
like the air shed it's shared uniquely

2402
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,040
throughout the region and the quality

2403
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,840
and the quantity of that is is

2404
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:42,239
imperative for for uh good health and

2405
01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:45,320
and good uh growth within our community

2406
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,239
and I will Channel director Nicholson

2407
01:53:47,239 --> 01:53:49,040
with her permission on on the need to

2408
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:52,199
identify those natural assets and to uh

2409
01:53:52,199 --> 01:53:54,840
identify by those that could be included

2410
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,960
within a purchase opportunity to protect

2411
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,000
the water quality and quantity within

2412
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,400
those regions that are developing so

2413
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,040
with that this was just for information

2414
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,800
and I thank you for uh a great

2415
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,960
presentation and for great input from

2416
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,840
you directors I thank you for that as

2417
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,390
well thank you thank

2418
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,840
you sorry to channel you director

2419
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:21,119
Nicholson but uh I heard someone else

2420
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:24,040
Channel a previous mayor of North cin

2421
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,360
and staying to their Lane so I thought

2422
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:27,760
it would be

2423
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:32,760
appropriate moving on Direct or Miss

2424
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,639
Harrison thank you Mr chair next item is

2425
01:54:35,639 --> 01:54:37,960
item R4 which is a report from the

2426
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,079
Environmental Services Division

2427
01:54:40,079 --> 01:54:43,679
regarding the cowch and adapts update

2428
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:49,270
and this too is for

2429
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,880
information thank you Mr chair and thank

2430
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,960
you director good morning it is um a

2431
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,639
tremendous opportunity to get to share

2432
01:54:56,639 --> 01:55:00,800
with you the coin adapts update for

2433
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,119
2024 uh we appreciate uh the the input

2434
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:07,040
received from from numerous partners and

2435
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,239
want to acknowledge all of those uh

2436
01:55:09,239 --> 01:55:11,079
externally and internally that have

2437
01:55:11,079 --> 01:55:14,159
provided uh that uh that input uh as

2438
01:55:14,159 --> 01:55:17,639
well as uh director's leadership uh the

2439
01:55:17,639 --> 01:55:20,599
incorporation of the adaptation strategy

2440
01:55:20,599 --> 01:55:23,520
in in as a priority item in in the uh

2441
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,000
strategic planning documents uh in Prior

2442
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,920
years uh as as uh as that piece of

2443
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,400
background there as well the adaptation

2444
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,320
strategy was uh adopted by the board in

2445
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,400
2021 the implementation framework in

2446
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:41,199
2022 and the implementation plan in 2023

2447
01:55:41,199 --> 01:55:44,239
and so uh before we continue is there a

2448
01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:47,360
possibility to share that online I don't

2449
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:51,430
see it uh coming up

2450
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,510
online

2451
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,119
it's just not coming through on the

2452
01:55:56,119 --> 01:55:58,000
laptop on

2453
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,840
WebEx and I can give you the PID of

2454
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:04,239
those um those properties if if you wish

2455
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:07,599
that picture does that picture does come

2456
01:56:07,599 --> 01:56:10,360
from the lake couch and

2457
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,000
area

2458
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,480
okay thank you that's uh that's that

2459
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:16,920
that's being shared now I just want to

2460
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,840
make sure that those online can uh

2461
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,440
follow along with the

2462
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:32,790
PowerPoint

2463
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:40,350
we

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01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,599
go are we seeing the presentation in

2465
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:46,599
shair mode Now Yep looks good excellent

2466
01:56:46,599 --> 01:56:48,239
if we can make it full size that would

2467
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:51,430
probably help

2468
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:56,390
but

2469
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,400
yeah it's not streaming apparently

2470
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:07,750
according to director Wilson's

2471
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:12,390
email I heard from

2472
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,840
EV that's

2473
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,639
better hopefully it will uh be recorded

2474
01:57:17,639 --> 01:57:19,119
and uploaded

2475
01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:21,360
later yes

2476
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:25,669
ma'am

2477
01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:28,119
okay it has been communicated that uh

2478
01:57:28,119 --> 01:57:29,639
there is some problems with the live

2479
01:57:29,639 --> 01:57:33,199
stream and it will be published uh at a

2480
01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:36,639
later date thank you to our

2481
01:57:36,639 --> 01:57:40,119
CAO please continue thanks thank you Mr

2482
01:57:40,119 --> 01:57:42,880
chair uh so if we may continue with the

2483
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,199
the acknowledgments um this this

2484
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:48,440
strategy also acknowledges how our first

2485
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:50,000
nation's Partners have been

2486
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,560
disproportionately affected by the

2487
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:55,079
impacts of climate change uh while also

2488
01:57:55,079 --> 01:57:57,239
understanding uh how First Nations have

2489
01:57:57,239 --> 01:57:58,840
have stewarded these lands for thousands

2490
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,560
of years uh and the opportunity that is

2491
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,400
there to interweave traditional

2492
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,440
knowledge with uh with Western science

2493
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,400
going forward and so we will talk um

2494
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:09,760
some more about uh some of the

2495
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,079
opportunities uh in in that space as

2496
01:58:12,079 --> 01:58:14,760
well and so uh the strategy recognizes

2497
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,320
that climate change is this large Global

2498
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,320
issue with um local impacts and so uh

2499
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,360
the strategy very much focuses on these

2500
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:26,199
these local Solutions and uh again the

2501
01:58:26,199 --> 01:58:28,599
update today is really to provide you

2502
01:58:28,599 --> 01:58:31,119
information on the program the the

2503
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:33,679
various actions there's an attachment in

2504
01:58:33,679 --> 01:58:35,639
the in the package the staff report

2505
01:58:35,639 --> 01:58:38,880
package there that uh includes uh that

2506
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,480
that update uh and the tables at the

2507
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,079
back end of that uh that strategy

2508
01:58:44,079 --> 01:58:47,400
include not only those actions led by um

2509
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:51,119
our division but also by um other other

2510
01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:53,000
groups within the cvrd as well as

2511
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,320
external partners and so uh that

2512
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,400
provides that that comprehensive update

2513
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:00,320
and uh we'll talk a little bit about uh

2514
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,320
some of the focus areas for next steps

2515
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,840
for implementation this

2516
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,320
year and so coming back to a little bit

2517
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,079
about that uh that background uh the

2518
01:59:10,079 --> 01:59:12,920
linkages to the the Strategic plan and

2519
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,679
so uh again the strategy was adopted by

2520
01:59:15,679 --> 01:59:17,239
the board in

2521
01:59:17,239 --> 01:59:21,079
2021 uh with implementation planning uh

2522
01:59:21,079 --> 01:59:23,320
uh developed in 202 2 and

2523
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:27,040
2023 uh the uh adaptation strategy has a

2524
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,480
number of actions objectives goals that

2525
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,840
link to uh the various strategic plan

2526
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,800
themes including uh the uh the new

2527
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:37,880
priority Focus area for reconciliation

2528
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:43,400
that is in the 2023 to 2026 strategic

2529
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,719
plan and so a bit of background because

2530
01:59:45,719 --> 01:59:47,400
we'll be talking a little bit about both

2531
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,599
of these uh these Focus areas of

2532
01:59:49,599 --> 01:59:51,480
adaptation and mitigation uh when we're

2533
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,040
talking about adapt we're really talking

2534
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,920
about actions to reduce the

2535
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:57,079
vulnerability of the natural and human

2536
01:59:57,079 --> 01:59:59,840
systems to change climate change uh

2537
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,000
impacts but um and then also at the same

2538
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,239
time we'll be talking about mitigation

2539
02:00:04,239 --> 02:00:05,920
and that's about reducing our carbon

2540
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,239
footprint so reducing our greenhouse gas

2541
02:00:08,239 --> 02:00:11,480
emissions both uh uh as an organization

2542
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,719
and uh as a community and so we do

2543
02:00:13,719 --> 02:00:15,000
recognize at the same time that there's

2544
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,920
some uh uh actions that have co-

2545
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,880
benefits so they'll have that uh that

2546
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,639
benefit of reducing our footprint as

2547
02:00:21,639 --> 02:00:23,920
well as help prepare us for uh the

2548
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,159
impacts of of climate

2549
02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:29,520
change and uh we have been following

2550
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:32,679
this this five phased process to develop

2551
02:00:32,679 --> 02:00:36,520
the adaptation strategy uh and it's a a

2552
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,280
circular process in the sense that we

2553
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:40,639
can enter into it at various places so

2554
02:00:40,639 --> 02:00:43,639
that we can continue to provide uh uh uh

2555
02:00:43,639 --> 02:00:46,159
refinements uh with updated information

2556
02:00:46,159 --> 02:00:48,639
into the strategy which is uh very much

2557
02:00:48,639 --> 02:00:52,000
a dynamic document uh and uh so it began

2558
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,320
that that phase in 2016 with the

2559
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:56,440
development of climate projections

2560
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,360
working with the pl Pacific climate

2561
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:00,639
impacts Consortium as well as a number

2562
02:01:00,639 --> 02:01:03,400
of other partners uh to develop that as

2563
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,599
well as the recommendations that came

2564
02:01:05,599 --> 02:01:08,079
came out of that uh which set us up for

2565
02:01:08,079 --> 02:01:09,920
this phase of vulnerability and risk

2566
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:13,000
assessments uh which um did have a focus

2567
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:15,639
on uh those specific risks related to

2568
02:01:15,639 --> 02:01:19,239
climate so uh including flood uh slope

2569
02:01:19,239 --> 02:01:22,760
failure uh but also um sea level rise

2570
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,840
and uh Wildfire risk assessments all at

2571
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:27,480
the same time now recognizing that this

2572
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,159
is an ongoing piece of work and we have

2573
02:01:29,159 --> 02:01:30,800
a number of groups across the

2574
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,040
organization uh as well as uh the

2575
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:34,679
community that are doing risk

2576
02:01:34,679 --> 02:01:36,560
assessments so uh working with the

2577
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,159
municipality of North cin for example uh

2578
02:01:39,159 --> 02:01:40,679
with their climate risk assessment

2579
02:01:40,679 --> 02:01:42,400
working with Emergency Management cowit

2580
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,360
and uh uh with their Hazard risk and

2581
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:46,960
vulnerability assessment as well as

2582
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,400
First Nations Partners such as malahat

2583
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,560
Nation uh with their sea level rise risk

2584
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:53,760
assessment so looking at how we

2585
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:55,760
synthesize this information around risk

2586
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:58,480
so that we can have uh a broad but

2587
02:01:58,480 --> 02:01:59,599
coordinated

2588
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:03,360
response and uh this this phase of work

2589
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,480
sets us up for that development of the

2590
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,599
strategy uh where we work through that

2591
02:02:07,599 --> 02:02:10,520
with numerous Partners to uh identify

2592
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,760
actions that were needed going forward

2593
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,000
we'll talk a bit about this fourth and

2594
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,480
parallel phase of work around mitigation

2595
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,800
and the opportunities to to move forward

2596
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,639
there and make uh make progress uh and

2597
02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:24,320
then of course uh the the phase that

2598
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:26,079
we're currently in which is this

2599
02:02:26,079 --> 02:02:28,960
implementation piece and uh the

2600
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,599
opportunities to uh to go forward and

2601
02:02:31,599 --> 02:02:33,960
work with Partners on

2602
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,239
that and so the strategy came together

2603
02:02:37,239 --> 02:02:39,760
with uh with the input from these these

2604
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:41,560
various Partners including provincial

2605
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,400
agencies Community

2606
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:45,880
stewards um from our first nation's

2607
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:49,239
Partners um Island Health our Municipal

2608
02:02:49,239 --> 02:02:53,159
partners and um other community agencies

2609
02:02:53,159 --> 02:02:55,360
including the school district to develop

2610
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:58,480
this uh this Vision uh as well as six

2611
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,760
supporting goals and then actions which

2612
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:05,719
link to uh to each of those those goals

2613
02:03:05,719 --> 02:03:08,000
uh and uh they're grouped according to

2614
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:10,719
these five thematic areas so we have a

2615
02:03:10,719 --> 02:03:13,360
first thematic area of uh resilient gray

2616
02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:15,159
and green infrastructure and so we're

2617
02:03:15,159 --> 02:03:17,840
thinking about Asset Management uh but

2618
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:20,520
we're also looking at uh uh building

2619
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,719
standards and um how we move forward

2620
02:03:23,719 --> 02:03:27,239
with uh protection of uh infrastructure

2621
02:03:27,239 --> 02:03:30,239
uh from uh climate impacts we have this

2622
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:32,040
second theme around Community Health and

2623
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:35,320
emergency management looking not only at

2624
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,960
um the immediate needs that come with um

2625
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,599
emergency situations but also uh some of

2626
02:03:40,599 --> 02:03:42,520
the preventative opportunities that are

2627
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,639
there um as it relates to for example

2628
02:03:45,639 --> 02:03:49,480
air quality um but also um how we uh are

2629
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,559
are responding to uh to emergencies

2630
02:03:52,559 --> 02:03:55,760
uh and so many actions being led through

2631
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:58,880
our Emergency Management Group and uh

2632
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:00,159
and as well as a number of other

2633
02:04:00,159 --> 02:04:03,320
partners in in that realm a third

2634
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:04,920
thematic area for green growth and

2635
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:07,719
sustainable development uh which uh

2636
02:04:07,719 --> 02:04:11,559
captures um u a good uh amount of work

2637
02:04:11,559 --> 02:04:14,480
being done by the uh Economic

2638
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:18,000
Development uh group uh the cvrd uh but

2639
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:19,880
also uh working with a number of

2640
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:22,360
Partners so for example uh the develop

2641
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:24,320
the the uh the progress being made

2642
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:27,360
around uh circular economy strategy um

2643
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,639
and then this fourth thematic area which

2644
02:04:29,639 --> 02:04:32,040
is uh linked to ecosystems and Biore

2645
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,719
Regional carrying capacity and so uh we

2646
02:04:34,719 --> 02:04:36,920
spoke a bit about that in relation to

2647
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,159
the drinking water and Watership

2648
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:40,040
Protection Program but we'll talk a bit

2649
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,040
about some of these additional actions

2650
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:44,840
as well that are uh carrying forward

2651
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:47,520
this work a fifth thematic area which is

2652
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:49,559
linked to cross cutting actions and

2653
02:04:49,559 --> 02:04:52,400
those are really about uh partnership

2654
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:55,119
building capacity building so addressing

2655
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:57,599
some of the um the comments and the the

2656
02:04:57,599 --> 02:04:59,920
concerns around uh overlapping

2657
02:04:59,920 --> 02:05:02,440
jurisdiction and um ultimately looking

2658
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:05,280
at how do we look at these big problems

2659
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:08,000
uh but uh various organizations can come

2660
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,559
together and uh and and really build the

2661
02:05:11,559 --> 02:05:14,040
capacity uh with those shared resources

2662
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,280
that we we all have in a coordinated way

2663
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:18,159
and we'll talk a bit about some of the

2664
02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:21,000
the mechanisms for that uh and how

2665
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,199
there's the 39 prioritized actions under

2666
02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:27,320
these thematic areas and so uh coming

2667
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:29,520
back to that fourth uh phase of work on

2668
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,199
the climate mitigation and so the Comm

2669
02:05:32,199 --> 02:05:34,159
commitments that we have in that area

2670
02:05:34,159 --> 02:05:36,639
are uh through the BC climate action

2671
02:05:36,639 --> 02:05:39,199
Charter and so they include uh becoming

2672
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:40,719
carbon neutral in our corporate

2673
02:05:40,719 --> 02:05:43,079
operations measuring and Reporting our

2674
02:05:43,079 --> 02:05:44,440
community

2675
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,480
ghgs uh and then also uh uh working

2676
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:49,840
towards complete compact and more energy

2677
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:52,480
efficient communities uh and and so on

2678
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:55,960
that uh Community Front we did develop a

2679
02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:59,400
regional energy strategy in 2012 uh but

2680
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:02,559
a number of uh parameters have have

2681
02:06:02,559 --> 02:06:04,760
changed around that in terms of uh the

2682
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,040
opportunities for for uh uh improved uh

2683
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,520
input data as well as a broadening of

2684
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,119
that strategy to not only look at resid

2685
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:15,800
the residential sector but also uh the

2686
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,280
number of other sectors that are

2687
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:19,960
responsible for our and contributing to

2688
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,920
our carbon footprint as a community so

2689
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,280
um the the strategy is is in need of

2690
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,840
update uh uh going forward and so that

2691
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,199
is one of the uh the recommended uh

2692
02:06:30,199 --> 02:06:32,639
steps for this year uh and also

2693
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:34,239
recognizing that the Local Government

2694
02:06:34,239 --> 02:06:36,639
Act uh does require us to establish

2695
02:06:36,639 --> 02:06:38,639
those ghd reduction targets at the

2696
02:06:38,639 --> 02:06:41,719
community level and identify mechanisms

2697
02:06:41,719 --> 02:06:44,920
to uh achieve and undertake that uh that

2698
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:47,840
ongoing monitoring and help us uh meet

2699
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:50,119
those those targets at the corporate

2700
02:06:50,119 --> 02:06:52,760
level uh we also have strategy in place

2701
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:54,880
and again there's an opportunity for

2702
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:58,719
update there um currently it has a focus

2703
02:06:58,719 --> 02:07:01,840
on on buildings and structures but also

2704
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,440
uh an opportunity to look at the broader

2705
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:07,119
corporate footprint and reflect current

2706
02:07:07,119 --> 02:07:09,679
input data targets and best practices

2707
02:07:09,679 --> 02:07:12,639
which have changed uh in in many ways uh

2708
02:07:12,639 --> 02:07:16,239
since uh the uh that that strategy was

2709
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:17,639
developed and

2710
02:07:17,639 --> 02:07:21,239
so uh and so coming back to the the

2711
02:07:21,239 --> 02:07:24,320
adaptation work and some of these these

2712
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,840
key actions for for the coming year and

2713
02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:30,520
so um uh the implementation of the high

2714
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:32,480
priority items in the 10year drinking

2715
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:34,199
water and Watershed Protection Program

2716
02:07:34,199 --> 02:07:35,880
is a big component of the adaptation

2717
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:39,000
strategy as well and so um as as Mr

2718
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,760
Moore was was speaking about uh many of

2719
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,880
those actions link to uh this thematic

2720
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,520
area around uh ecosystems protection as

2721
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:50,520
well as bi Regional carrying capacity so

2722
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:53,679
identifying those High stress aquifers

2723
02:07:53,679 --> 02:07:55,599
uh like we did with the South CCH and uh

2724
02:07:55,599 --> 02:07:59,000
groundwater budgets for aquafer 197 and

2725
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,559
206 to understand that those are the

2726
02:08:01,559 --> 02:08:03,159
those are ones that are are are

2727
02:08:03,159 --> 02:08:05,599
exhibiting high water supply stress that

2728
02:08:05,599 --> 02:08:08,079
helps us understand the the bi Regional

2729
02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:10,320
carrying capacity as well as the the

2730
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,320
water quality for example in those those

2731
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:14,760
areas too whether it's related to uh

2732
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,599
nutrient levels in in in groundwater

2733
02:08:17,599 --> 02:08:19,840
seeing elevated levels there in uh

2734
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,639
Cobble Hill but then similarly in the uh

2735
02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:25,000
the South cin watersheds uh with with

2736
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,040
shaigan Lake uh and the the the

2737
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:29,960
background data that was that was useful

2738
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,400
there to support uh planning around uh

2739
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:35,280
uh liquid waste infrastructure and so

2740
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,199
these these components support that

2741
02:08:37,199 --> 02:08:40,079
thematic area of Biore Regional carrying

2742
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:43,599
capacity um in a substantial way and so

2743
02:08:43,599 --> 02:08:46,400
uh at the same time uh there's a number

2744
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:48,199
of other actions that link to uh

2745
02:08:48,199 --> 02:08:51,880
ecosystems protection and uh as well as

2746
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,960
uh Communications of the of the work and

2747
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,400
so a big component of that uh that we're

2748
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:58,920
working on right now is the review and

2749
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,079
refresh of The New Normal coin uh web

2750
02:09:02,079 --> 02:09:05,440
page and Communications program so uh

2751
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:07,960
not only having uh web-based tools uh

2752
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:11,559
updated but uh having uh deployment of

2753
02:09:11,559 --> 02:09:15,159
uh of of physical uh media as well for

2754
02:09:15,159 --> 02:09:17,119
for spreading the word uh but also

2755
02:09:17,119 --> 02:09:19,760
inviting uh participation from community

2756
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:22,679
members on uh their Reflections on on

2757
02:09:22,679 --> 02:09:24,320
impacts and

2758
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,679
solutions the conservation strategy

2759
02:09:26,679 --> 02:09:29,440
development uh including an updated Esa

2760
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,440
inventory the setting of conservation

2761
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:34,320
targets uh is also a key action within

2762
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,199
the adaptation strategy and something

2763
02:09:36,199 --> 02:09:39,520
that uh uh is uh intended to to be

2764
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,679
moving forward uh in this in this coming

2765
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:44,040
year uh as well as ongoing invasive

2766
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:46,079
plants monitoring uh and identification

2767
02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:48,599
of new priority plants for inclusion in

2768
02:09:48,599 --> 02:09:52,119
the bylaw which uh uh we uh had

2769
02:09:52,119 --> 02:09:54,960
established uh in in

2770
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:57,960
2016 uh implementing the updated airshed

2771
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:00,880
protection strategy uh updated last year

2772
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,679
uh including uh now going forward with

2773
02:10:03,679 --> 02:10:06,880
the uh refreshed uh wood stove uh

2774
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,239
replacement program wood stove Reduction

2775
02:10:09,239 --> 02:10:11,280
Program uh that we partner on with the

2776
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:15,320
province uh as well as um uh partnering

2777
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:18,119
internally with the various uh groups

2778
02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:20,599
around uh reviewing the the the burning

2779
02:10:20,599 --> 02:10:23,480
bylaws as well so key actions uh to be

2780
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:25,280
moving forward within the airshed

2781
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:28,040
protection strategy uh flood management

2782
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:30,559
planning also key within the adaptation

2783
02:10:30,559 --> 02:10:32,520
strategy and fits across a number of

2784
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,440
those thematic areas also strong tie-ins

2785
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,000
to the drinking water and Watershed

2786
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:39,679
protection uh strategy

2787
02:10:39,679 --> 02:10:43,320
implementation uh and of course uh a key

2788
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:46,000
um underlying component to uh the

2789
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:48,960
various uh subject areas is uh planning

2790
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:50,920
for updates to uh the state of the

2791
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:52,000
environment

2792
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:54,840
uh reports which includes these these 14

2793
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:57,119
sections that were that were developed

2794
02:10:57,119 --> 02:10:58,719
and some have been updated in more

2795
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:02,119
recent years uh and of course uh many

2796
02:11:02,119 --> 02:11:04,480
have been brought forward to the board

2797
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:07,119
in different forms uh in terms of

2798
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:10,520
updated information uh whether it's uh

2799
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:14,360
air air quality uh reporting updates or

2800
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,480
um environmentally sensitive area uh

2801
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,199
updates we've been bringing information

2802
02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:21,679
forward in in different ways but we're

2803
02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:23,480
at whether there's an opportunity to

2804
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:25,719
bring that forward in a state-of the

2805
02:11:25,719 --> 02:11:27,920
environment report fashion or or other

2806
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:30,119
mechanisms so that it's uh it's

2807
02:11:30,119 --> 02:11:33,159
informative to uh to to

2808
02:11:33,159 --> 02:11:36,480
folks uh of course a significant action

2809
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:40,159
also linked to uh this concept of

2810
02:11:40,159 --> 02:11:42,079
ecosystems protection and Biore Regional

2811
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:44,400
carrying capacity is uh to continue

2812
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,079
working with Partners on the replacement

2813
02:11:46,079 --> 02:11:48,880
of the CCH and Lake Weir uh which uh we

2814
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:50,920
now have that that additional funding

2815
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:54,559
from uh the senior government uh and uh

2816
02:11:54,559 --> 02:11:57,040
link to that is the associated flood

2817
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:58,400
mitigation

2818
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,679
Works cross cutting actions that support

2819
02:12:01,679 --> 02:12:04,400
not only those actions that are being

2820
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:06,159
led by our group which we've just

2821
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:08,000
mentioned again supporting ecosystems of

2822
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,159
bi Regional caring capacity but all of

2823
02:12:10,159 --> 02:12:12,559
the other uh thematic areas linked to

2824
02:12:12,559 --> 02:12:14,760
Community Health and

2825
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:16,840
infrastructure uh and these cross

2826
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,520
cutting actions again link back to that

2827
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:22,440
key concept of of capacity building and

2828
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:25,400
so uh it speaks to our opportunities to

2829
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:27,320
engage with the public to not only

2830
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:29,239
communicate out the information but to

2831
02:12:29,239 --> 02:12:31,760
gather input and so um some key

2832
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,400
mechanisms to be able to do that and

2833
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,480
some that are already in place uh we're

2834
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:39,679
looking forward to hosting a regional

2835
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:42,040
climate and health Forum so looking at a

2836
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:44,679
broad number of Partners across the

2837
02:12:44,679 --> 02:12:47,880
region uh for a large space discussion

2838
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:50,920
uh given the uh the number of various

2839
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,840
folks that are active in this space uh

2840
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:57,040
to understand where we are at with our

2841
02:12:57,040 --> 02:12:58,760
activities where can we learn from each

2842
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:02,280
other and uh invite that broad level of

2843
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:05,400
participation um uh this would build on

2844
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:07,159
what uh the mech one of the mechanisms

2845
02:13:07,159 --> 02:13:09,719
we already have which is uh as as

2846
02:13:09,719 --> 02:13:12,040
directed by the board in in in the

2847
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,360
previous years this development of The

2848
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,040
Advisory Group which includes the

2849
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:18,000
intergovernmental participants the

2850
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:19,840
various Municipal Partners our first

2851
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:22,440
Nations partners to support implementing

2852
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:24,159
the priority actions in the adaptation

2853
02:13:24,159 --> 02:13:27,000
strategy and so uh again this is a

2854
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,079
mechanism to uh ensure that the strategy

2855
02:13:30,079 --> 02:13:33,199
continues to uh reflect the the broad

2856
02:13:33,199 --> 02:13:36,760
views of of the community uh and uh that

2857
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,679
we're able to to implement those actions

2858
02:13:39,679 --> 02:13:42,239
in a most in a more coordinated way uh

2859
02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:45,000
wherever we can uh ongoing collaboration

2860
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:46,880
with partner climate initiatives is key

2861
02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:49,239
so uh working for example with the

2862
02:13:49,239 --> 02:13:51,480
municipality of North cowit and on their

2863
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:54,440
climate planning program uh with the

2864
02:13:54,440 --> 02:13:56,040
risk assessment and now going forward

2865
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:57,719
into the adaptation planning work that

2866
02:13:57,719 --> 02:13:59,599
they're looking to do but this also

2867
02:13:59,599 --> 02:14:02,159
includes and and speaks to uh the

2868
02:14:02,159 --> 02:14:03,920
opportunities for directors to be

2869
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,599
involved so there was um a question in

2870
02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:09,840
the in the earlier uh presentation there

2871
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:11,679
about that and one of one of these

2872
02:14:11,679 --> 02:14:15,360
opportunities is through the Vic can uh

2873
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:18,800
forum and so we have uh we have been

2874
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:21,320
notified that they'll be online for

2875
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:24,520
Forums on May 6th and May 13th for that

2876
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:26,559
so that's for elected officials but also

2877
02:14:26,559 --> 02:14:29,480
for staff uh and uh there'll be uh

2878
02:14:29,480 --> 02:14:32,199
additional uh opportunities through that

2879
02:14:32,199 --> 02:14:35,360
uh that uh that Forum the vicc can and

2880
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:37,599
so we're anticipating more information

2881
02:14:37,599 --> 02:14:39,440
about that ourselves and uh looking

2882
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:43,159
forward to to that opportunity uh and

2883
02:14:43,159 --> 02:14:45,760
really just examining uh uh OPP

2884
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:47,480
additional partnership opportunities to

2885
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:49,679
work with the local stewardship groups

2886
02:14:49,679 --> 02:14:53,480
who um can have uh uh a tremendous role

2887
02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:56,599
for for adaptation going forward uh on

2888
02:14:56,599 --> 02:14:58,920
the mitigation side as mentioned the

2889
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:01,960
opportunities are there to uh to update

2890
02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:03,480
the community greenhouse gas reduction

2891
02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:05,119
strategy the corporate greenhouse gas

2892
02:15:05,119 --> 02:15:07,480
reduction strategy uh continue

2893
02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:09,679
implementing those actions that may uh

2894
02:15:09,679 --> 02:15:12,520
already being implemented for example

2895
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:15,199
electrical electric vehicle support uh

2896
02:15:15,199 --> 02:15:17,920
but also uh building upgrades and

2897
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:19,719
ultimately those updated strategies

2898
02:15:19,719 --> 02:15:21,960
would identify

2899
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:24,719
those that broad range of actions across

2900
02:15:24,719 --> 02:15:28,599
the number of emissions categories that

2901
02:15:28,599 --> 02:15:33,360
could um be reduced and uh looking at um

2902
02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,280
looking at how we can work with that uh

2903
02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:37,360
with with our various partners and so

2904
02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:38,520
with that thank

2905
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:42,239
you to the directors and uh thank you

2906
02:15:42,239 --> 02:15:45,159
very much for the presentation um

2907
02:15:45,159 --> 02:15:47,639
considering this was for information and

2908
02:15:47,639 --> 02:15:50,119
I'm aware that a few directors have a

2909
02:15:50,119 --> 02:15:53,239
12:00 uh appointment that they were

2910
02:15:53,239 --> 02:15:56,920
trying to keep uh could we or are you in

2911
02:15:56,920 --> 02:15:58,920
favor of taking your questions or

2912
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:00,199
comments

2913
02:16:00,199 --> 02:16:03,719
offline uh if if that is appropriate and

2914
02:16:03,719 --> 02:16:07,320
that we consider the closed session that

2915
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:09,960
would follow after the board if that is

2916
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,320
okay with uh the body we could we could

2917
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:17,079
do that uh I'm seeing nodding so chair

2918
02:16:17,079 --> 02:16:19,199
Stone I mean director Stone I just don't

2919
02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:22,159
want to take away the thanks to Mr

2920
02:16:22,159 --> 02:16:24,840
Lawrence and the team um for doing this

2921
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:27,239
work and uh we'll talk about how North

2922
02:16:27,239 --> 02:16:29,280
Couch's getting all these resources

2923
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:31,599
later yes and we'll share them around

2924
02:16:31,599 --> 02:16:33,960
for sure so if that's okay with the uh

2925
02:16:33,960 --> 02:16:35,559
with the body we will uh take our

2926
02:16:35,559 --> 02:16:37,599
questions and comments offline I do have

2927
02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:41,840
some that I'll forward as well and uh

2928
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:43,280
we'll move forward with the closed

2929
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:46,920
session after the board completion so Mr

2930
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:49,200
chair would be appro appropriate to move

2931
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:50,880
the motion to close session then adjourn

2932
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:53,439
the close session until after regular

2933
02:16:53,439 --> 02:16:55,840
board so I'd make the motion to go into

2934
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,160
close session a after Miss Harrison

2935
02:16:58,160 --> 02:16:59,439
tells us

2936
02:16:59,439 --> 02:17:03,920
why um thank you Mr chair for you to

2937
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:08,319
director Stone we have question period

2938
02:17:08,319 --> 02:17:10,880
first so I will turn to the public for

2939
02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:13,519
questions and please be kind to me it's

2940
02:17:13,519 --> 02:17:17,589
been a long

2941
02:17:17,599 --> 02:17:19,920
morning Mr chair it has been a long

2942
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:21,960
morning and I'm feeling the privilege of

2943
02:17:21,960 --> 02:17:23,679
being the only public witness to this

2944
02:17:23,679 --> 02:17:25,920
morning's deliberations because of the

2945
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:28,040
technical difficulties today so my

2946
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:30,040
question is can the board look at

2947
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:32,679
alternative ways to communicate

2948
02:17:32,679 --> 02:17:35,200
excellent reports like Mr Lawrence's

2949
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:37,359
material in more of an audio visual

2950
02:17:37,359 --> 02:17:39,399
format that could be going viral and

2951
02:17:39,399 --> 02:17:41,479
sharing just like we did with the cowch

2952
02:17:41,479 --> 02:17:43,880
and tourism almost like a b-roll where

2953
02:17:43,880 --> 02:17:45,840
we can show snapshots from around the

2954
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:48,319
region and really get people excited and

2955
02:17:48,319 --> 02:17:50,160
emotionally invested in this material

2956
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,439
because I really hate to see reports

2957
02:17:52,439 --> 02:17:54,280
like this be left on the Shelf thank you

2958
02:17:54,280 --> 02:17:55,840
Mr chair thank you very much and we'll

2959
02:17:55,840 --> 02:17:58,599
do our utmost within our it upgrade to

2960
02:17:58,599 --> 02:18:00,559
implement something that you have

2961
02:18:00,559 --> 02:18:03,399
mentioned thank you no followup thank

2962
02:18:03,399 --> 02:18:06,439
you so now a motion to go into close

2963
02:18:06,439 --> 02:18:09,760
Miss Harrison on what

2964
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:14,760
matters uh thank you Mr chair uh we have

2965
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:19,960
uh section 91 k

2966
02:18:19,960 --> 02:18:23,960
91a move by director Stone and seconded

2967
02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:27,559
by Ish Dash director ish Das that is all

2968
02:18:27,559 --> 02:18:32,920
in favor opposed if any motion to

2969
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:36,469
adjourn

2970
02:18:36,479 --> 02:18:39,760
yes so moved and seconded all in

2971
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:49,910
favor okay we will convene

2972
02:18:49,920 --> 02:19:17,709
later

2973
02:19:17,719 --> 02:19:19,920
last stay

2974
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:24,559
tuned refresh yeah it's all yeah

2975
02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:27,040
hopefully

2976
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:33,469
longm data but you might

2977
02:19:33,479 --> 02:19:49,830
see

2978
02:19:49,840 --> 02:20:05,630
okay

2979
02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:19,830
well we don't know I don't know

2980
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:45,110
what

2981
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:49,830
I know

2982
02:20:49,840 --> 02:21:19,860
it's

2983
02:21:19,870 --> 02:22:11,389
[Music]

2984
02:22:11,399 --> 02:22:13,560
makide even if they can't help there's

2985
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:16,000
nothing can do they would just sit here

2986
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:19,240
for while we are drowning in other I

2987
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:24,790
would I would at this point

2988
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:49,710
Optics we need to I'm just

2989
02:22:49,720 --> 02:23:12,670
sharing

2990
02:23:12,680 --> 02:23:15,960
so so all of that has to do with having

2991
02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:18,370
on the

2992
02:23:18,380 --> 02:23:19,720
[Applause]

2993
02:23:19,720 --> 02:23:36,870
screen

2994
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:42,309
out

2995
02:23:42,319 --> 02:23:46,520
system needer and just get back

2996
02:23:46,520 --> 02:23:49,760
to just yeah no no no I agree so what

2997
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:51,600
I'm just saying is that

2998
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:57,220
that's priority

2999
02:23:57,230 --> 02:24:01,670
[Music]

3000
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:05,359
we observation wise I know but I think

3001
02:24:05,359 --> 02:24:07,040
that um

3002
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:09,640
that is unfortunate and

3003
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:13,560
it's but I want I want to do things to

3004
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:15,359
actually fix the situation I don't want

3005
02:24:15,359 --> 02:24:17,319
to do things that just obiously make us

3006
02:24:17,319 --> 02:24:19,160
look good even though the situation

3007
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:25,750
can't be fixed that way

3008
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:28,000
techology no that's actually not true it

3009
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:32,000
all works the thing that doesn't work

3010
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,000
St like that's actually the

3011
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,800
misconception is that some technology is

3012
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:38,920
bad and there are some things that are

3013
02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:43,830
bad like one thing that's really

3014
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:47,120
bad pieces that are

3015
02:24:47,120 --> 02:24:53,790
not because they are in and they

3016
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:57,080
but you you tell me one I can hon I

3017
02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:01,469
don't know

3018
02:25:01,479 --> 02:25:04,479
one

3019
02:25:04,479 --> 02:25:07,710
laptop

3020
02:25:07,720 --> 02:25:10,319
abely we need we need to have the

3021
02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:13,710
cameras in here and then

3022
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:16,399
versatile you and I

3023
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:20,359
can totally that's I'm saying got so

3024
02:25:20,359 --> 02:25:21,279
there's

3025
02:25:21,279 --> 02:25:23,120
yeah no no I

3026
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:31,190
realiz I'm only sharing the

3027
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:34,880
I chase got come in here he doesn't know

3028
02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:49,510
what's going on we got

3029
02:25:49,520 --> 02:26:01,469
weone

3030
02:26:01,479 --> 02:26:09,389
St the problem

3031
02:26:09,399 --> 02:26:12,359
isas well I'll tell you I I'll read the

3032
02:26:12,359 --> 02:26:19,510
report but I will tell

3033
02:26:19,520 --> 02:26:30,510
you I I met guy who did all our

3034
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:32,160
system

3035
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:36,840
we and just deliver on this tomor after

3036
02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:39,359
hours get it

3037
02:26:39,359 --> 02:26:43,590
done

3038
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:48,840
I'm be six 12 months with the same same

3039
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:58,910
issue some

3040
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:00,720
so if we do that if we come in here

3041
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:02,120
other than what you just mentioned about

3042
02:27:02,120 --> 02:27:04,040
the video cameras which actually has

3043
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:06,760
been like the problems that we're having

3044
02:27:06,760 --> 02:27:08,600
have nothing to do with video we've not

3045
02:27:08,600 --> 02:27:10,560
had a problem with video ceras period in

3046
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:13,319
two years I mean you may not like the

3047
02:27:13,319 --> 02:27:15,040
fact that right now we

3048
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:18,120
have this going on but in fact that

3049
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:21,160
that's not problem complaint

3050
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:24,800
the complaints have audio

3051
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:28,389
complaints

3052
02:27:28,399 --> 02:27:31,880
computer well the WebEx issues to have

3053
02:27:31,880 --> 02:27:41,670
almost been all user error setting up

3054
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,760
meetings

3055
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:47,650
soat now

3056
02:27:47,650 --> 02:27:49,439
[Music]

3057
02:27:49,439 --> 02:27:53,750
isable

3058
02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:56,120
so this morning not first time last

3059
02:27:56,120 --> 02:28:07,550
couple weeks we had a meeting

3060
02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:11,960
withi I the third party was

3061
02:28:11,960 --> 02:28:15,389
all so

3062
02:28:15,399 --> 02:28:20,520
weed and um we went into teams and uh

3063
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:23,600
fine but what I'm saying is is we've had

3064
02:28:23,600 --> 02:28:25,800
audio issues that

3065
02:28:25,800 --> 02:28:29,150
are

3066
02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:31,600
external sometimes internal sometimes

3067
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:32,760
exal I don't think it's actually the

3068
02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:43,389
user I think it's it's

3069
02:28:43,399 --> 02:28:46,520
not three weeks ago I submitted the help

3070
02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:52,120
us uh where half the grou

3071
02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:54,510
but

3072
02:28:54,520 --> 02:28:58,840
were and then today was weird

3073
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:01,279
because no I was

3074
02:29:01,279 --> 02:29:02,800
here

3075
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:09,530
um no it was it

3076
02:29:09,540 --> 02:29:10,290
[Music]

3077
02:29:10,290 --> 02:29:14,389
[Applause]

3078
02:29:14,399 --> 02:29:18,200
waser exact then there was also one that

3079
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:19,319
later in the

3080
02:29:19,319 --> 02:29:27,790
day weird

3081
02:29:27,800 --> 02:29:32,000
gety verified unified things apparently

3082
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:33,399
update on it

3083
02:29:33,399 --> 02:29:39,670
probably

3084
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:42,359
changes what I have to tell you we

3085
02:29:42,359 --> 02:29:45,479
pursed Your solution we got $250,000

3086
02:29:45,479 --> 02:29:48,000
worth of it upgade overnight and

3087
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:51,000
implemented it we would have all

3088
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:53,359
it would not improve anything so I don't

3089
02:29:53,359 --> 02:29:54,720
know why we would do that that's

3090
02:29:54,720 --> 02:30:08,429
actually not

3091
02:30:08,439 --> 02:30:11,560
Sol don't dise that yeah it's just I

3092
02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:14,269
think

3093
02:30:14,279 --> 02:30:16,720
Improvement tra something new every

3094
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:20,600
Municipal has technology issues but they

3095
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:23,560
also are probably 10 years ahead in the

3096
02:30:23,560 --> 02:30:25,120
the new system

3097
02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:28,080
the support I don't know how they would

3098
02:30:28,080 --> 02:30:31,110
support

3099
02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:34,439
anyway just that yeah I just

3100
02:30:34,439 --> 02:30:49,230
started okay

3101
02:30:49,240 --> 02:31:19,150
sorry

3102
02:31:19,160 --> 02:40:18,550
e

3103
02:40:18,560 --> 02:40:48,510
for

3104
02:40:48,520 --> 02:42:48,429
e

3105
02:42:48,439 --> 02:43:48,309
for

3106
02:43:48,319 --> 02:44:48,230
e

3107
02:44:48,240 --> 02:46:18,150
for

3108
02:46:18,160 --> 02:46:48,110
e

3109
02:46:48,120 --> 02:47:48,030
for

3110
02:47:48,040 --> 02:48:18,030
e

3111
02:48:18,040 --> 02:48:48,030
for

3112
02:48:48,040 --> 02:49:17,950
e

3113
02:49:17,960 --> 02:49:47,910
for

3114
02:49:47,920 --> 02:50:17,910
e

3115
02:50:17,920 --> 02:51:31,120
for