1 00:00:00,460 --> 00:01:58,840 [Music] 2 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,240 for 3 00:02:01,240 --> 00:03:28,760 [Music] 4 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,810 yeah 5 00:03:30,810 --> 00:04:28,710 [Music] 6 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,350 yeah 7 00:04:30,350 --> 00:05:58,629 [Music] 8 00:05:58,639 --> 00:05:59,970 yeah 9 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:58,520 [Music] 10 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,090 yeah 11 00:07:00,090 --> 00:07:40,350 [Music] 12 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,400 anybody I'd like to call the order of 13 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,840 this connected city council committee 14 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,599 meeting for Monday April 1 15 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:49,960 2024 uh the first committee is finance 16 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,479 Mr M thank you I like to call the 17 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:54,240 finance committee to order the fourth 18 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,430 item is a Crest Grant Chief 19 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,670 Marino 20 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 good evening everybody good even evening 21 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,510 either that or late 22 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,710 afterno 23 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,199 Sor okay uh Crest 24 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:22,599 gr so this is U through the dormatory 25 00:08:22,599 --> 00:08:25,360 authority get a little background we 26 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,440 have two pieces of apparatus they're 27 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,800 1999 of France their engines 28 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Pumpers 29 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,839 um they're obsolete we can't we are fair 30 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:39,760 difficult time getting parts for them 31 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,320 they're well out of 32 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,760 warranty um and what we would like to do 33 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,399 is replace those 34 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,000 too and when we got the idea that they 35 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,320 needed to go started looking for money 36 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,320 we reached out to um a sub in Santa 37 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,560 Barber and s in St and they were able to 38 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,440 secure some money in the 39 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,720 2023 state budget through the dormatory 40 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,279 Authority Under The Crest 41 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:09,680 monitor uh so I'm here to ask you to 42 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,240 approve that it's for $800,000 total 675 43 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,720 with Santa Barbara 125 with st there is 44 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,040 no matching funds required from the 45 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,480 city it'll take probably about a year 46 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,160 and a half in order for us uh to have an 47 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,480 apparatus where we're going through our 48 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,680 process now talking to our vendors to 49 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,839 see what's available and then go through 50 00:09:34,839 --> 00:09:37,440 that process of ordering it but it 51 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,600 probably be uh July of 2025 before the 52 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,800 apparatus is here and it'll take as long 53 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,079 as we complete the project in 3 years 54 00:09:47,079 --> 00:09:49,440 we'll be fine with 55 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,720 it go ahead please and $800,000 will 56 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,310 cover the cost should ask for a 57 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 million 58 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,839 um we'll make it 59 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:07,200 work any other questions see none may 60 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,000 have a motion second all in favor I okay 61 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,279 we have another item item number two 62 00:10:14,279 --> 00:10:16,320 change in table of organization and 63 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,079 budget amendment Chief 64 00:10:19,079 --> 00:10:23,000 Mar okay so this one's a little bit more 65 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,120 complicated we have the fire 66 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,240 investigative unit they are part of 67 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,480 special operation 68 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,279 in the fire investigative unit we have 69 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:34,480 three 70 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,440 lieutenants and they're overseen by a 71 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,839 deputy chief the deputy chief that's in 72 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:44,160 that um oversees fire I'm sorry they 73 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,639 oversees Special Operations which is 74 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:49,399 hazzat uh confined space weapons of mass 75 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:52,360 destruction water rescue and the fire 76 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,040 investigative unit or 77 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,000 unit unit has been around for 20 years 78 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,800 they have an 79 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,639 extremely positive record every case 80 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:06,560 that goes to court they have 100% 81 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:09,120 conviction rate which is unheard 82 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,440 of they do a great job so right now the 83 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,880 three lieutenants they answer to the 84 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,279 deputy chief that is in charge of all 85 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:20,320 the other depart all the other 86 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,240 units we've had in the past a captain in 87 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,360 that unit and a few years ago that for 88 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,680 different reasons that was reduced to a 89 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,360 lieutenant so what I'm asking is that we 90 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 take that one of the lieutenants make 91 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,240 that person the 92 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,040 captain and that we would have a captain 93 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,710 and two 94 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,680 lieutenants that will increase 95 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,680 efficiency in the 96 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:51,480 unit it will uh allow for the captain to 97 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,160 oversee the two investigators and he's 98 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,120 an investigator also and reported uh 99 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,880 directly to the deputy chief 100 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,959 which allows him it frees him up to you 101 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:05,920 know to check to work with his other 102 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,079 units 103 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:12,079 um and when we when we take that 104 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,680 position and we take the lieutenant away 105 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:16,600 make it a cap then there's going to be a 106 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,279 promotion and some of the people up for 107 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:22,519 the promotion are coming from the unit 108 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:25,279 which is great that if if the 109 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:28,160 person was uh promoted from within the 110 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,079 unit 111 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:31,839 it uh makes it 112 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:34,320 seamless because the unit is involved 113 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,959 with the arson task force which is ATF 114 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:43,880 SKC police SKC fire the DA's office a 115 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,440 lot of training goes 116 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,079 involved if you were able to I'm not say 117 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:49,720 you can but if you were able to promote 118 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,079 from within the unit you would have uh 119 00:12:53,079 --> 00:12:55,560 less uh education that you would have to 120 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,519 provide for the person coming in because 121 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:00,120 that person's already it's already in 122 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,320 the unit it's already had all the 123 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,240 education all the 124 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,600 training so that's the proposal to 125 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 eliminate one liutenant make it a 126 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,920 captain and for this year it's a less 127 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,279 than a 128 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:16,279 $5,000 change in the budget we had a uh 129 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:17,680 unexpected 130 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,279 retirement where that money that is 131 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:22,440 saved through that retirement would 132 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,160 cover the cost of the captain clear you 133 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:33,269 know easily six times over clearly 134 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,639 go ahead please uh so there's currently 135 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:37,600 three lieutenants as of now correct 136 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Chief um so if you eliminate one and 137 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,720 they're potentially not selected is 138 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,199 there uh the ability for the neoti 139 00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:46,160 preferential um place in the department 140 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,680 or did I misunderstand something a 141 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:50,759 different place in in the department as 142 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:52,720 a whole or within that unit because 143 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,920 there won't be any more spaces in in the 144 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,360 if not selected great if we make the 145 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,240 change there only be two lieutenants 146 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,720 and if the person if the people in there 147 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,959 are not made from within they'll go to 148 00:14:05,959 --> 00:14:08,839 the they'll go to the line so they go to 149 00:14:08,839 --> 00:14:11,560 aun an apparatus okay so there they're 150 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,720 not going to be eliminated I didn't 151 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,040 imagine it would all right thanks G but 152 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,320 just to clarify they would not lose 153 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,199 their rank then no they would just go 154 00:14:20,199 --> 00:14:22,800 okay great so we're going to 155 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,079 make if we're able to change this 156 00:14:26,079 --> 00:14:27,320 there's going to be a need for a 157 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,079 promotion okay so a Lieutenant from the 158 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:33,240 job will be promoted to Captain and then 159 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,759 the question is where does that Captain 160 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:37,279 go he has does he have the ability to go 161 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:38,759 within the 162 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:42,360 FIU unit yes and if not you can go to 163 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,320 long 164 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,120 okay chief are you looking to eliminate 165 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,600 this position into the next budget I'm 166 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,279 sorry are you carrying this um this 167 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:52,839 position here you're eliminating one 168 00:14:52,839 --> 00:14:55,839 Lieutenant we for the next The Proposal 169 00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:59,639 would be to carry the new position 170 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:01,320 forward but the lieutenant would not 171 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,160 have 172 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,320 recreated thank 173 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,680 you your other Special Operations un are 174 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,839 they similar in the chain of command so 175 00:15:10,839 --> 00:15:13,120 it would be deputy chief Captain then 176 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,519 your lieutenants no Captain in Special 177 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:18,600 Operations there's one deputy chief 178 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,720 great 179 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,560 and in a lot of those areas it's the 180 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,959 deputy chief that runs it okay so for 181 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:29,720 instance the Hazmat unit it's a 30 182 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,519 member keing but it's from the rink and 183 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:35,920 file okay they were that those positions 184 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,399 were bit out by senority and then those 185 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,079 people were trained to a specialist uh 186 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:44,600 position of the Hazmat unit but they're 187 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,079 not part of 188 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:49,279 Staff the FIU the fire investigative 189 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:52,350 unit is 190 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Staff go ahead please right so when we 191 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 talked about this before um at the um 192 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,079 legislative conference we talked about 193 00:15:59,079 --> 00:16:01,880 being some uh impacting the budget we're 194 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,279 going to see I don't see that piece of 195 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:07,040 the language in here where where it 196 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,480 changes the lines and all of that that we said was going to 197 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,959 happen usually well usually when we see 198 00:16:13,959 --> 00:16:15,360 a budget amendment we're used to seeing 199 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,720 that language right there a chart with 200 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,519 the information and I don't see it here 201 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,480 is that going to come from Finance yeah 202 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 remember we 203 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,110 spoke 204 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,079 sorry so she was out to day she'll give 205 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:32,680 him that information you the call so 206 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,920 it's going to be coming from so we'll 207 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,079 see that for the resolution for 208 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:38,199 Monday thank 209 00:16:38,199 --> 00:16:40,160 you any other 210 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,360 question seeing n may have a motion to 211 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,800 move this item second all in favor I 212 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,319 thank you Chief thank you thank you 213 00:16:47,319 --> 00:16:48,880 Chief the next item is called for public 214 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,319 hearing for ReStore we Grant 215 00:16:53,319 --> 00:16:56,040 application thank you Mr chairman uh 216 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,279 States announced the next round Store 217 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,279 New York conc unified economic 218 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:04,959 development team headed by Metroplex has 219 00:17:04,959 --> 00:17:08,000 been successful really in the last seven 220 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,559 rounds this application the process 221 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,520 requires for uh calling for a public 222 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,919 hearing uh the proposal is to do an 223 00:17:16,919 --> 00:17:19,319 application for 224 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:22,360 $600,000 to assist in the Redevelopment 225 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:25,919 of the uh buildings at the corner of 226 00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:29,400 Erie Boulevard and State Street 227 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Sonic uh Temple the Chamber of Commerce 228 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:37,679 in rutnik and Mr Gillan is here in terms 229 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:41,679 of uh any specifics or details on you 230 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:43,679 the past applications or some of the 231 00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:44,930 ideas with this one going 232 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:48,470 [Music] 233 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,039 forward we have any question for Mr 234 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,600 Gillan or any question from the council 235 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,960 go please so Mr 236 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Gillan so just clear so it's it's the 237 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,679 three buildings it's the former Chamber 238 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:03,520 of Commerce the Rudnick and then the 239 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,600 building on the corner as well the 240 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Masonic temple are all it's two no it's 241 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,760 good question thank you good evening 242 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,799 beautiful night um we're working when we 243 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:14,039 developed the wedgeway building with 244 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:17,320 your support across the street uh with a 245 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,440 restore New Y Grant as the mayor said 246 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,080 we've been successful with these with 247 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,320 these grants great program my old agency 248 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,440 and Park State 249 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 development um we were hopeful that the 250 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,840 corner the opposite Corner would be 251 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,720 redevelop and uh tremendous support from 252 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,960 the mayor a lot of hard work by our team 253 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,440 uh we have a developer who is who has 254 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,559 the former Masonic temple on the corner 255 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:45,120 of the large building the former chamber 256 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:48,679 building which is 4,318 square ft and 257 00:18:48,679 --> 00:18:51,039 the former Rudnick building which is 258 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:54,159 14,835 squ Ft the former chamber 259 00:18:54,159 --> 00:18:56,320 building is at 306 State the former 260 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,320 rednick is at 308 state the application 261 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,559 is going in uh we approve this for 306 262 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:06,520 the former chamber building and 308 the 263 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960 former rednick building we already have 264 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,720 in hand do do some previous work and 265 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,919 support by the council a $450,000 grant 266 00:19:14,919 --> 00:19:17,600 for the Masonic temple 302 State at the 267 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,799 corner the large building at the corner 268 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:21,799 of state area so we already have that in 269 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:24,080 hand so the mayor is correct our goal is 270 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,880 to redevelop all three structures at the 271 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,159 same time but this application that's 272 00:19:29,159 --> 00:19:32,559 going in by May 22nd uh will'll deal 273 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:34,120 with just the former Rudnick and the 274 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:36,320 former chamber call for the public 275 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,240 hearing tonight with your support we'll 276 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,440 run an ad for three consecutive days in 277 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,960 The Gazette announcing the public 278 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,960 hearing and our intent to renovate these 279 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 buildings as required by the program and 280 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,400 hold the public hearing and hopefully 281 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,120 get a resolution of support from the 282 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,520 council so that we can submit the grant 283 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 by the May 22nd deadline happy to answer 284 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,360 any of the questions and we want to 285 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,880 thank our team and uh the development 286 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,919 department at the city and also um our 287 00:20:02,919 --> 00:20:05,720 BR writing team of suardi and Eva Evans 288 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,000 have worked very hard with us go ahead 289 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,559 so you have the 450 in place already and 290 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:13,400 so when the renovation takes place since 291 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,600 that Grant and that money is already 292 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,080 there will they all the renovation take 293 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,240 place at the same time that's our goal 294 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,720 I'll do all three it would makes sense 295 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,559 to do all three uh at the same time 296 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:25,280 thank 297 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,720 you go ahead please I think you uh I 298 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,240 think it'll clean up that corner nice 299 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,640 there's a new restaurant there and then 300 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,880 the presco building and then carry it on 301 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,679 right to State Street and then down in 302 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:39,159 Boulevard that's nice project thank 303 00:20:39,159 --> 00:20:42,559 you any other questions so the for the 304 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,000 public hearing there will be documents 305 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:50,600 provided um ahead of time yes we'll um we'll have the uh the notice 306 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,720 has to go in we've already submitted the 307 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,400 intent to apply for them to the state uh 308 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,799 we'll provide that to you and um we're 309 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:00,360 working on the a as we speak so still 310 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,360 got some work to do but um uh it's a gut 311 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,200 renovation those two buildings are in 312 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,480 very poor condition Rick's of course had 313 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,320 a fire the chamber building's been empty 314 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,919 um needs a lot both of them need a lot 315 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:15,880 of work and um we appreciate the again 316 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,360 the mayor's support you know we really 317 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,799 talk to the developers and said these 318 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,919 buildings we have to make every attempt 319 00:21:20,919 --> 00:21:22,440 to save these buildings especially the 320 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,039 Bic building on the corner because it's 321 00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:24,960 so 322 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 significant thank 323 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,430 you any other question 324 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,039 sign have a motion to move this item 325 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:36,400 forward so mve second second all in 326 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,720 favor I thank you thank you and your 327 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,200 team the next item is amendment to 328 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,080 ordinance 20 329 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760 20243 creating a special assessment 330 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,799 District on a portion of Nar College 331 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:52,720 Street Mr Mr chairman this is a 332 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,039 technical amendment to conform the uh 333 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,720 the ordinance with our charger regarding 334 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,159 the 5% interest which is set forth in 335 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:01,960 the charter this is a follow on 336 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,480 technical Amendment to the ordinance 337 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,919 already 338 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:08,000 passed any questions see N I have a 339 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,159 motion to move this forward so moved 340 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:13,400 second all in favor I thank you the next 341 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,799 item is a BBS H property lease agreement 342 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:20,000 update from our City Assessor as for the 343 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,039 field also thank you so we've been 344 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:25,200 talking about this it came up about um 345 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,559 increasing the rent and um what was 346 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,799 required or request is that the assessor 347 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,760 actually go in visit the property and 348 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,000 make some determinations so M maoy has 349 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,320 done that and all of you um got the 350 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,080 report um previously the only thing that 351 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,120 was not attached to the report what the 352 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,880 report gave I just want to be clear 353 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,919 everyone did get the report and have an 354 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:52,200 opportunity to look at it okay um the 355 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,360 only thing that was not attached by the 356 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,880 request of Corporation Council was the 357 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,480 pictures of the actual Liv Liv space um 358 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,120 has U Mr O'Brien felt that would have 359 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:05,520 been an invasion of privacy for um the 360 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,640 individual living there and so um but I 361 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480 did ask for pictures to be provided 362 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,679 simply because that's how we are making 363 00:23:12,679 --> 00:23:16,840 our that's what our discussion about the interior living space so I am 364 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,559 now passing out pictures to the Council 365 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:21,720 of that space and this is for inter 366 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,279 agency determination because the for the 367 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,640 council is reviewing this so I beg your 368 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,640 pardon this this inra agency as you're 369 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,360 making your determination within the 370 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,760 city here to make that's where you're 371 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 looking at this this 372 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,960 is make sure we go are the three pages 373 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,400 or two to the pictures inside there's 374 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600 it's it's one full page double sided 375 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:49,470 then one page single sided 376 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,919 okay there's there's probably a six I 377 00:23:52,919 --> 00:23:54,559 think there's probably six pictures it's 378 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,440 not a very big space 379 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,710 okay 380 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,470 you need one more I 381 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,919 don't the 382 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,500 same 383 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:23,390 [Music] 384 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,360 me okay does anybody have a 385 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:41,549 copy 386 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,360 okay 387 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:47,520 so again we the rent um was increased in 388 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,760 2015 from $50 to $500 so for for the 389 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480 past 9 years it's been 390 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,399 $500 um we have are paying paying 391 00:24:57,399 --> 00:24:59,679 increased fees to the city of M to the 392 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:03,520 town of Nuna and so my I'm putting forth 393 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200 that we increase the rent at this 394 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,360 particular facility we talked about um 395 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,279 different amounts so you've read 396 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:11,840 everything you're seeing the pictures 397 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,799 before 398 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,830 you 399 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,840 and so it's up for discussion and I did 400 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,720 originally ask that we minimally double 401 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,399 it so that can that's where I'll start 402 00:25:27,399 --> 00:25:33,710 with that 403 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Mr chair um just for reference points 404 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,240 for for 2016 I think was the last formal 405 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760 agreement oh yes thank you for that for 406 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600 that and uh looking at the Bureau of 407 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Labor Statistics uh CPI calculator from 408 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,799 216 to uh 216 to today that would make 409 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:55,640 it 410 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,799 $654 if you want to go back a little 411 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:01,679 further back to 2 2020 that would be 412 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:04,279 $716 I just throw those figures out 413 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:07,919 there for the uh just for discussion 414 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:11,640 purpos but just throwing you out 716 for 415 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,880 if you go back to 416 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480 2020 and that's according to the Bureau 417 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480 of Labor Statistics based on $500 going 418 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,279 back in 2020 so there's nothing that 419 00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,559 brings us up to 23 at 420 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,799 least 20 no 2020 is the base I went back 421 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:33,389 as far as 2020 and bringing 422 00:26:33,399 --> 00:26:36,520 $500 all right went back to 2020 and how 423 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,520 much is that again um 424 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,000 $716 if we we use 2020 as the base year 425 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080 um at $500 okay and bringing it up to 426 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,600 the present for 427 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,880 2023 you're basing and finding on the 428 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,799 CPI yes within those um given years yes 429 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:57,240 from 2020 to 20 430 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,149 2024 431 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:04,159 um looking at those picture that we got 432 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:06,679 over the weekend are we to do some 433 00:27:06,679 --> 00:27:09,080 repair or should we be doing some excuse 434 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,120 me that's let me correct myself that was 435 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:17,880 2 210 not 2020 210 2 so we 216 is 436 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,480 654 2010 is 716 if we go back so using 437 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,320 2010 is the base 438 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,919 year there was a to do some of the stair 439 00:27:28,919 --> 00:27:32,000 work uh that was A4 of a million 440 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,679 dollar that came in we did not move 441 00:27:34,679 --> 00:27:38,000 ahead on that uh probably some code 442 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,919 issues and other remedial action bring 443 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:47,200 up compliance that uh would uh be 444 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,559 significant investments in that facility 445 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:55,190 in the city's 446 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,120 perspective would you like you want to 447 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,120 come up here than sure I but the mayor 448 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,039 said it wasn't 250,000 was 400,000 the 449 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,640 bid for his stairs yes that was in our 450 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,549 in the budget yeah 451 00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,480 400,000 I was only you do half every 452 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,310 other 453 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600 step he's smiling 454 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,600 over go ahead please I'm wondering how 455 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,679 much um we would need to pay a caretaker 456 00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:27,559 to come in if Mr Lon was to um not be 457 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,159 residing there there and doing other 458 00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:32,159 things that he does outside of his job 459 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:33,760 responsibilities well it would be 460 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 whether we brought a term 461 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,640 caraker if I assigned other city workers 462 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,559 to do that covered under collective 463 00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:44,919 bargaining agreement would depend on 464 00:28:44,919 --> 00:28:47,279 what the worker is if you went out and 465 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,440 hired a independent contractor that 466 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840 would be something else it's another 467 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,440 requirement to have someone living there 468 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,279 who is in the l department as part of 469 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,440 the cic 470 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,880 LIC 471 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,919 waterer 472 00:29:02,919 --> 00:29:05,320 well some stuff you're getting into now 473 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 that is structure this defin as part of 474 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,919 our critical infrastructure and would 475 00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:16,230 not continue that discussion in public 476 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,480 session okay any other discussion go 477 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,880 ahead please I would say based on the memorandum that I had a chance to 478 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,840 review and thank you to miss m and her 479 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,519 assessor's office for compiling 480 00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,519 information I I'm not a landlord nor do 481 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,240 I have any Li rental properties but one 482 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,640 thing that I'm aware of is you should at 483 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,679 least try to recuperate some some cost 484 00:29:36,679 --> 00:29:39,440 in factor in uh preventive maintenance 485 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,919 which it appears has not been uh 486 00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:44,360 conducted uh there are some issues that 487 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,960 were cited I don't think we need to go 488 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,519 into any uh 489 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,519 details um but in the report it clearly 490 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:52,360 outlines that there was some work to 491 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,720 include some Services recently rendered 492 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,480 and My worry is in addition to having a 493 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760 severity subsidized rent that is an 494 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,039 additional expense that the city is 495 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,559 taking on to maintain this property uh 496 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,279 so I'm weary of keeping it at its 497 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,760 current rate um but definitely the her 498 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:17,470 account suggests that an increase is 499 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,760 necessary I'm sorry did you say that did 500 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,640 you say that you think that Miss 501 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,279 melroy's account is suggesting that an 502 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,279 increase is necessary how else will we 503 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,720 pay for it 504 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,279 the small increase I 505 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:38,029 think I'm not really 506 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:42,640 see last Parra it says if an increase is 507 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,279 necessary though is what I'm trying to 508 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,080 say Mr go ahead please so I guess you're 509 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,039 just implying just if we are already 510 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,320 offering the rent at a severely low rate 511 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200 absorbing the additional expenses to 512 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,840 maintain the property I think is in 513 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,120 excess of the the the lease as it was PR 514 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,039 previously stated that is no longer 515 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,720 existent so it's just the the expense of 516 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,240 us having to maintain it and then offer 517 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,120 it at a severely low rate it is I think 518 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,399 there are two different considerations 519 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:15,710 that the state is making at this 520 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,039 point go ahead please so and and right 521 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,240 now just so everyone's clear there is no 522 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,519 current signed lease agreement is that 523 00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,080 correct that is 524 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,039 correct so what I mean what we can do 525 00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:30,639 here what I recommend is that once you 526 00:31:30,639 --> 00:31:32,720 come to an agreement as to the rental 527 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080 amount we'll do a you'll we'll do a 528 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,000 Resolute you'll do a resolution author 529 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720 you authorizing the mayor enter into a 530 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,799 contract for a year we do this on a 531 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,919 yearly basis um from January 1 to uh the 532 00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:50,039 end of this year for whatever the rental 533 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,559 amount you want and that each year um as 534 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:55,880 the end of the year goes through and it 535 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,639 also coincides with the budget year um 536 00:31:58,639 --> 00:32:01,159 that uh police will come for renewal at 537 00:32:01,159 --> 00:32:03,399 that time so it's brought before 538 00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:07,990 you on a yearly 539 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,279 basis go ahead please and then just to 540 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:15,240 just expand um looking through the 541 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,840 pictures I think it's important to also 542 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,480 reflect where if we're looking 543 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,919 thereafter this individual's tendency uh 544 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:25,600 ceases or um this individual moves on 545 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,519 what is the cost of renovating this 546 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:28,480 property 547 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,480 which is why I truly think and I don't 548 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,000 know if we need to go into executive 549 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 session to have that discussion of an 550 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,960 individual being on premises but I 551 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,679 really think we need to start steering 552 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,320 towards the route of is there an ability 553 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,639 to incorporate like technological 554 00:32:42,639 --> 00:32:45,960 assist go ahead did you I'm sorry I just 555 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,799 saw your there's currently 556 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:54,350 Miss I do have a question 557 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840 yeah thank you uh there's currently 558 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,360 controls in place so that a a actual 559 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360 person doesn't have to be there for 560 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,559 those things but if you noticed one of 561 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,080 the photos there's a sump pump in the 562 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,760 basement and that needs to continually 563 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,639 run because of the amount of the sheer 564 00:33:10,639 --> 00:33:12,000 amount of water that's I mean I didn't 565 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,120 even go down I took pictures it didn't 566 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 go down into the basement because 567 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200 there's just and um I one thing I I 568 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,600 didn't put in there and I apologize Mr 569 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,600 lefon has told me that that he's had to 570 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,720 replace that pump three times for the 571 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,039 amount of time that it has to run um to 572 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,320 get the water out of the the lower level 573 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,960 there it you know between the Heat that 574 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960 has to be on in the building to keep the 575 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,799 pipes warm and also the um the amount of 576 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,480 water that just exists in there they 577 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,120 that the mold was an issue so it's um I 578 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,960 don't know I guess it's just it's having 579 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240 those redundancies of having someone you 580 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,039 know Che at least checking on that you 581 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,799 know so it would require someone to go 582 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:57,320 up there every day to make sure 583 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,399 especially we have a year where you know 584 00:33:59,399 --> 00:34:01,360 this year we didn't have a whole lot of 585 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,880 runoff because we didn't have a lot of 586 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 snow but as you can see in one of the 587 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,799 photos the whole area above the 588 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,800 reservoir it's just 589 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,879 puddles Tesla who's got the they've got 590 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,320 all the solar field up there they have 591 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,280 to bring in a special piece of equipment 592 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,919 to run through the solar fields to M 593 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:26,040 Lawn and you know I mean and they can't mow the lawn in the area 594 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,879 where all that water is it's just you 595 00:34:27,879 --> 00:34:30,000 know and it's it's rough 596 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,679 so go ahead please um so you're saying 597 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,480 the building would have to be heated 598 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,480 even if someone did not look correct oh 599 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,790 yeah for 600 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,240 sure I I have a recommendation I think 601 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,079 I'd rather present in executive session 602 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:47,879 so what would that 603 00:34:47,879 --> 00:34:51,679 be okay I mean I mean this is this is a 604 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,480 rental of property that's it's unlike 605 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,919 our other Sal gu relates to the 606 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,800 individual that's living there um 607 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,680 specifically so um in terms of timing of 608 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,589 raising the 609 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,520 rent mean you have to be I think to 610 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,240 justify your executive session let's see 611 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,440 yeah is it personel if someone was I 612 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,320 think it is Personnel um related in 613 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,040 terms of 614 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839 um well long would we just talk about 615 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:22,800 the rental and and and put the rent put 616 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,800 the person aside look at the look at the 617 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,240 rental how much you've got the 618 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,960 information from our City Assessor you 619 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,200 got a framework of some CPI information 620 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,880 you've got the report before you um and 621 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200 what functions still have to be done 622 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,160 physically at the at the location so um 623 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,880 it's you know put up a figure and then 624 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,920 um come up to that figure make a 625 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,800 resolution and then we will formulate a 626 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,920 uh a new lease based on that information 627 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,640 and we'll present it to the employee and 628 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,440 we'll take it from there 629 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,599 okay go ahead so I I you know again I I 630 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:05,720 wasn't in favor of raising the rent 631 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,319 again um but if we have to do a little 632 00:36:08,319 --> 00:36:10,440 something I'd be in favor of a $50 a 633 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,069 month rental 634 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,440 increase go ahead please first of all I 635 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,200 want to point out that the duties um 636 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,680 that are supposed to be done by the 637 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,800 tenant are either weekly monthly or 638 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,040 semiannually so it's not the according 639 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,680 to the lease that we currently have the 640 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,760 last one we had that's what it speaks to 641 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160 so these are not daily um events that 642 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,599 need to happen so I just want to point 643 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,280 that out and also Mr O'Brien has given 644 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400 us information on what what would be uh 645 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,319 a reasonable rent based on um the CPI so 646 00:36:41,319 --> 00:36:43,760 I'm more in favor of going towards that 647 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,359 um 2 716 is interesting amount so 725 648 00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:51,119 just for 649 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,359 around that so that's 650 00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:58,400 a I just throw that out there 651 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560 well it's it's it's not a thousand 652 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960 but that's W be 653 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,280 reasonable oh okay s so so um I just 654 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,560 would like to kind of add in that you 655 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,200 know based on the information that we've 656 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,319 gotten including the pictures this is 657 00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:15,760 definitely no mansion that we're talking 658 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,119 about here and and I think that if we're 659 00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:19,599 going to 660 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,040 increase uh the rent then we have to 661 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,800 take into consideration that this is not 662 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,160 again it's not a fair market situation 663 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960 where someone moves out and then you 664 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680 know we have you know people who are 665 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,520 interested in moving right in so just 666 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240 taking that into consideration I think 667 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:43,839 that uh Fair way to if we were going to have 668 00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:45,000 increase would be based on the 669 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,200 information that was provided by 670 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,430 Corporation 671 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,880 Council any other 672 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,760 question I I just want to address 673 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440 something in the letter here that talks 674 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,240 about um some of the items that we need 675 00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,520 to some of the some of the items that 676 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,680 needs to get addressed I would like to 677 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,720 see that we take that into consideration 678 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:09,040 and also um get this apartment or build 679 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,079 building off to code if we're going to 680 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:12,720 be renting it 681 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,160 I I'm supportive of rent increase but at 682 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,800 the same time we need to be good man on 683 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,400 and fix this apartment so it become 684 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,960 liveable because we have seen in the 685 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,839 picture here some of these things that 686 00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:25,280 needs to be addressed and it needs to be 687 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,960 addressed as you know 688 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,560 as early as we 689 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,520 can go ahead please um I expressed that 690 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,000 I did not think that we should be 691 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,480 increasing the rent in the middle of 692 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,720 someone's tenure um based on I know we 693 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,359 don't have the old agreement but I do 694 00:38:42,359 --> 00:38:44,560 want to say that obviously it's sort of 695 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640 changing the parameters of what someone 696 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,760 has been doing in the middle of this 697 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240 person's you know I shouldn't say in the 698 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,560 middle of his employment but uh you know 699 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560 since since he started as opposed to 700 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,920 having a letter of agreement that you 701 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520 give to a new person um when they start 702 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,079 to uh say so I I would definitely say 703 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,040 that we need to be making now looking at 704 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,000 these photos that we should be 705 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,480 regardless of what happens from this 706 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,319 discussion tonight we should be trying 707 00:39:09,319 --> 00:39:11,359 to fix this place up if we're expecting 708 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,119 somebody to live there whether it's the 709 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,000 current tenant or a future tenant um So 710 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,359 that obviously would again I mean I 711 00:39:18,359 --> 00:39:19,800 would think that that's quite an that's 712 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,960 going to be an expense um that the city 713 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,599 really needs to absorb I don't think it 714 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,720 would penalize the tenant um based on 715 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,720 something that clearly hasn't been done 716 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:35,550 you know for years um 717 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,359 so it's well I mean it's liveable 718 00:39:38,359 --> 00:39:39,800 currently because the person is actually 719 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,520 living there so we just need to do our 720 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,480 due diligence and fix whatever needs to 721 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,079 get fixed forward but at the same time 722 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,560 he's occupying that space so it's 723 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,640 something that he is enjoying at the 724 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000 moment he's paying $500 mon per month 725 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480 and know we here considering an increase 726 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880 I I think you covered I was going to say 727 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200 no matter what way we decide to go with 728 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,520 this we clearly need to uh bring that 729 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,720 building up the code yes 730 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,640 yeah so I just want to point out the 731 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,319 only way we would know it wasn't is that 732 00:40:11,319 --> 00:40:13,440 individual living told us the landlord 733 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,880 that it wasn't so we're this is the 734 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,599 first time that I'm hearing that it is 735 00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:18,560 not to code we know have known that 736 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440 before so can I just U make a comment I 737 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,599 want to CAU I I app while I appreciate 738 00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,119 the discussion there's just certain 739 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,119 things there's the spaces limited you're 740 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:29,880 talking about a brick building that's 741 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560 three floors it's basically this it's 742 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:38,440 not like you can add space to the the functional obsolesence of the 743 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000 bathroom or the um functional 744 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,800 obsolesence of the bedrooms there you 745 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,319 there's really not more than a bed and a 746 00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:48,680 bedside table that's able to be in the 747 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,240 and you can't increase the space because 748 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,720 of the structure so it's just I I think 749 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:56,520 some of those things I I point those out 750 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,200 because that does have an effect on 751 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,720 marketability if you were to bring 752 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:05,400 someone else in um thanks Mr Harley for 753 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,440 you know I just I guess I I I want to be 754 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520 cautious about those things because you 755 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480 can't change what's already there as a 756 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,280 footprint I think really what we're 757 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,440 talking about though is like the um 758 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,400 appliances and kind things those kind of 759 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,880 things and the paint and all that stuff 760 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,240 those are things that we need to be 761 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,480 addressed yeah okay thank you I just 762 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,390 want to say that 763 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,760 I think there's a lot that has to be 764 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,880 addressed looking at these photos I mean 765 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,720 on the exterior of the building interior 766 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,440 of the building you can see that it's 767 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,640 wellmaintained and you know it's so tiny 768 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,000 but um it's the other photos that really 769 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,200 I mean the basement is 770 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,520 just horrific I mean I wouldn't even go 771 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,680 down there you know I mean I wouldn't 772 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,079 even it was nice it was great to see I 773 00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:54,480 mean it was another another cool 774 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,280 building to see that we own 775 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,000 I think that we oh I'm sorry go ahead 776 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,520 please I think that we had to just make 777 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,480 sure that we're the other parts of the 778 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520 building that the operational part 779 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,920 separate look at that separate and apart 780 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,880 and there's definitely things that need 781 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,640 to be done but I think that we need to 782 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,040 keep it separate and apart because we 783 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000 definitely have to address it and as we 784 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:20,309 discuss the rent in the living 785 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:24,349 space um 786 00:42:24,359 --> 00:42:27,520 I I want to make a suggestion that we um 787 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,559 we increase the rent to 788 00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:34,319 $700 and revisit this next year after 789 00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:37,559 the and many of the items is fixed by 790 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,319 the city and then we can the next year 791 00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:42,480 the lease come for Renewal next year so 792 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,800 I'm suggest that we move forward with 793 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,079 700 now and revisit next year after we 794 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,880 have fixed these things because we need 795 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,160 to fix them because we cannot have these 796 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,520 things in clear in black and white here 797 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,839 and we're not addressing it it was 798 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:00,559 brought to our attention last week and 799 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,240 it needs to be addressed because this 800 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:03,280 individual is living there and he's 801 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,400 paying rent and we should be as good 802 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,760 Landmark fixing the apartment to make it 803 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000 liveable for that individual despite the 804 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,880 fact that if he's working here and as 805 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,720 part of his 806 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,440 agreement it should be up to standard I 807 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,430 mean Code 808 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,359 Compliance and I you say a point of 809 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:23,160 clarification I just I I don't agree 810 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,440 that just because there's a lack of an 811 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,319 agreement means the city's taxpayers 812 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:27,880 should have to feel the entire 813 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,960 Renovations for that property I know we 814 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,760 were talking about numbers and they were 815 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,760 arbitrary until we had the report thank 816 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,960 you again um but I would be willing to 817 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,589 support the 818 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,960 $700 so we will have to move forward 819 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,800 with um enter into an agreement a lease 820 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,599 agreement and the rental increase yes so 821 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,760 it's a motion to it's a motion for a 822 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,880 resolution uh calling for a uh the 823 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,800 rental amount to be $700 from what I'm 824 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,559 hearing $700 825 00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:04,040 and to be set forth in an agreement uh that will expire at the end of this 826 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,599 year and that uh obviously when it 827 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,440 expires we can check in on what's going 828 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,400 on at that building at the end of the 829 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,359 year go so are are you saying that the 830 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:17,319 apartment is not up to code there's code 831 00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:19,520 violations happening right now in that 832 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,319 in the apartment part 833 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,880 of I don't think it's code violation 834 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,640 there stuff that was brought up to our 835 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,880 attention needs to get fixed is it 836 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,280 considered quote quote violation we 837 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,200 don't know that's unfortunately I can't 838 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,800 speak to that what needs to be fixed the 839 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,119 oven door it's all 840 00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:42,470 here 841 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,480 so before we did any rental increase I 842 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,960 would suggest that we fix whatever needs 843 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,040 to be fixed that's listed 844 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,720 there that's what we gave you know 845 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:56,520 that's why well if if the count 846 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,599 assessment to look at it if the council 847 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,000 wants to move forward with a resolution 848 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,960 authorizing that agreement for 849 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,079 $700 then we can um move forward with 850 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,640 that and we'll start drafting the 851 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,079 agreement we'll do we'll be a resolution 852 00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:13,160 regarding that amount on in the next 853 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,400 meeting regarding the work that has to 854 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,680 be done that can be done separately 855 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000 administrative F that can be done 856 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,549 separately but 857 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,359 um it's what you want as far as a 858 00:45:28,359 --> 00:45:30,599 resolution for the amount and then we 859 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,319 can to draft draft a new agreement 860 00:45:33,319 --> 00:45:36,200 basically along the same terms but just 861 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,880 a different rental 862 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,720 amount right is that what I'm hearing Mr 863 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,520 chairman right yes that is that is 864 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,280 correct 865 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,800 okay well I I I think for my the benefit 866 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,160 of have the Mr F live there name oh the 867 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,000 tenant the tenant live there um is a 868 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,280 large benefit to the city uh looking at 869 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,760 some of the issues pointed out in this 870 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,520 report concern me and I would like to 871 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,359 see those issues addressed prior to Us 872 00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:12,280 increasing the rent I think generating 873 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,800 an additional $200 a 874 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,680 month um really does not a whole lot to 875 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,400 raise revenue for us but having it 876 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,640 occupied by someone who has been you 877 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680 know been a caretaker and it says in a 878 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,599 report has to also be a certify a New 879 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,720 York state licensed water operator to 880 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,079 have a person like that on site is a 881 00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,359 valuable asset to the city and I don't 882 00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:36,319 know that I would want to move the 883 00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:40,400 agreement unless um until we we made 884 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,559 some repairs to the place and um made it 885 00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:46,200 a little bit more appealing for someone 886 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,680 to deide 887 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,400 there oh go ahead go ahead go 888 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,720 ahead so I would say to that question in 889 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,319 response I would say part of his duties 890 00:46:56,319 --> 00:46:58,880 I would say a large part of his duty was 891 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,119 to maintain that property 892 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,960 correct so I would say if we are now 893 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,319 finding these grievances I would say 894 00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:08,880 there is a potential for lack of better 895 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,880 words and 896 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,040 neglect as these issues weren't 897 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,000 presented Us in due time to fix them so 898 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,440 I think there is an importance to 899 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,240 identify there is a shared 900 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,040 responsibility um but definitely if it 901 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,680 was not for this conversation when if 902 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,359 would we be would have been made aware 903 00:47:26,359 --> 00:47:29,839 of these issues in the 904 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:33,079 building do do we know if they were made 905 00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:36,400 aware to maybe not to us but anyone 906 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640 else whether they were addressed or not 907 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,480 or C someone's attention or not but I 908 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,920 take for lack of consideration they 909 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,040 should have came from the individual 910 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,400 who's supposed to be the custodian of 911 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,559 the property quite I'm saying is do we 912 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,680 know if that ever happened did you he 913 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,359 anything I do yeah well I mean clearly I 914 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:54,240 think if if the if the tenant came 915 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,960 forward with the need for new stairs 916 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,280 there there were I mean I to me that was 917 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,720 the biggest concern is the stairs and 918 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,920 the drainage there just given the runoff 919 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,920 that comes down the stairs so I I feel 920 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,160 like that was I don't know sorry to whom 921 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,800 it was made known but it was something 922 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,480 that was discussed as a budgetary item 923 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,480 so go ahead so the stairs were addressed 924 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,640 in the budget that's clear but again 925 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,680 we're looking at the living space and so 926 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,240 I what I'm understanding is being is 927 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,920 that the things that are lacking in the 928 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,800 living space we were not made aware of 929 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,520 which is now Mr moodar saying we need to 930 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,760 bring those things up so I don't know 931 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,160 mayor if you could speak to that if 932 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,400 there's any if that was ever made aware 933 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,800 to my knowledge this is the first time 934 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,920 it's come before the council in terms of 935 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,400 the living space needing an upgrade I 936 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,280 agree with that Madam president again 937 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,079 those particular items are the first 938 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,680 time that I've become aware of it most 939 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,599 of those I think could be remediated 940 00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:58,000 within a 30 or 60-day period and uh 941 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,799 brought to a level that everybody would 942 00:48:59,799 --> 00:49:02,760 be happy with and I don't 943 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,119 know quite what some of the expenses 944 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,599 would be with some of those 945 00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:10,480 things that's agre these are small 946 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,960 ticket items that can be addressed and 947 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,990 make it liveable without any um 948 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,910 concerns any other questions or 949 00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:24,280 [Music] 950 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,839 comments see we're moving a motion to to 951 00:49:26,839 --> 00:49:29,880 increase the rent to $700 on aoriz the 952 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,319 mayor to enter into a lease agreement 953 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:33,680 with the 954 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,799 tenant that motion is on the table so 955 00:49:36,799 --> 00:49:39,799 move second I'm going to Second it all 956 00:49:39,799 --> 00:49:43,319 in favor i i n do we still need to go in 957 00:49:43,319 --> 00:49:45,799 executive session no no 958 00:49:45,799 --> 00:49:48,280 you 959 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,559 um there the next item is amending the 960 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:54,160 board of assessment review ordinance 961 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,319 regarding pay to board members who's 962 00:49:57,319 --> 00:49:59,000 going to take that I'm going to and Miss 963 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,599 maoy is going to okay um so as you may 964 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,960 remember a few meetings ago Miss maoy 965 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,319 came to us and I think it was going bud 966 00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:11,040 SE that um that the board members of the 967 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640 board of assessment review are 968 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,559 compensated for their time to do this 969 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,720 and um part of their compensation the 970 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,280 requirement is that they attend all 971 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,119 meetings the grievance day as well as 972 00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,960 meetings that follow up and um there may 973 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,920 have been an individual 974 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,880 that wasn't like making all of the 975 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,280 meetings so the question became how do 976 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,119 we fairly 977 00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,760 compensate so because for those who are 978 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,640 attending all parts of it and and 979 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,000 someone who may uh not be attending all 980 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,040 of it still be compensated in the same 981 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,720 way so U Miss maroy uh brought it 982 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,119 forward that perhaps that's something we 983 00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:51,040 should discuss and um as it says in the 984 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,440 legislative request the only thing that 985 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,359 it says in the um code is that we could 986 00:50:56,359 --> 00:50:58,280 do compensation it doesn't speak to the 987 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,520 amount it doesn't speak to the meth 988 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,240 methodology or anything like that um so 989 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,839 did you want to talk more about that 990 00:51:04,839 --> 00:51:07,240 sure so we have a five member board 991 00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:10,160 Quorum is three members um last year we 992 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,760 had one person who didn't come to 993 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,400 grievance day and so there was some 994 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,440 suggestion by other members of the board 995 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,599 um and by myself that you know we don't have much accountability for 996 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,200 that um and we still pay this individual 997 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,680 the full amount even though the majority 998 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,640 of the work that was done is on 999 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,799 grievance day for 11 hours it's a long 1000 00:51:29,799 --> 00:51:32,760 day to to sit and and you know hear the 1001 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,480 taxpayers come in and our property 1002 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,799 owners come in and talk about their 1003 00:51:35,799 --> 00:51:38,559 properties so now we have had a 1004 00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,839 reduction over the past you know 10 1005 00:51:40,839 --> 00:51:43,119 years that I've been here um in the 1006 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,280 amount of grievances but they're no less 1007 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,760 important to um the the function of the 1008 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,720 city so um it just it was more of an 1009 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,480 idea of how can we go forward with some 1010 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,960 kind of accountability for the 1011 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,319 responsibilities um for the board so 1012 00:51:59,319 --> 00:52:01,240 that was that was my concern and we 1013 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,680 couldn't do anything last year because 1014 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,079 we hadn't talked about it and given what 1015 00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,079 is in city code already um so I had been 1016 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,040 speaking with Mr O'Brien and we talked 1017 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,000 about maybe a possible um meeting 1018 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,839 halfway of of some form of 1019 00:52:16,839 --> 00:52:19,799 accountability yes M I can speak on that 1020 00:52:19,799 --> 00:52:22,799 Mr chairman I I suggested that that 1021 00:52:22,799 --> 00:52:24,480 since the city council appoints the 1022 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,119 members to the board you also have the 1023 00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:28,319 power to to remove individuals from the 1024 00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:30,720 board so upon an individual's 1025 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:34,079 appointment um they signed an 1026 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,400 acknowledgement um stating in part that 1027 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400 the board of assessment review is 1028 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,079 important to the property owners of the 1029 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,640 city of skincity by accepting thiso I 1030 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,520 accepting the appointment to the city of 1031 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,920 SKC Board of assessment review I agree 1032 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,520 to attend all uh meetings deliberations 1033 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,680 and mandatory trainings unless excuse by 1034 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,680 the city assess it failure to do so on 1035 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520 my part may result in my removal from 1036 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,359 the board of assessment review it's an 1037 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:08,040 acknowledgment of what their duties if 1038 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,839 they're accepting that appointment they 1039 00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:11,799 understand what the terms and conditions 1040 00:53:11,799 --> 00:53:13,720 are that they are to go to the meetings 1041 00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,040 and the deliberations and any sort of 1042 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,720 State mandated trainings and that the 1043 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,359 failure to do so unless properly excused 1044 00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:24,440 by the City Assessor may lead to their 1045 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,200 removal and under the city code 1046 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,520 you have uh the the power to remove an 1047 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,240 individual after giving them an 1048 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,520 opportunity to be heard so it is a way 1049 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,240 to we can do this by resolution I'll put 1050 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,119 that words that I just sold you into a 1051 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,200 resolution that and then inform form 1052 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,920 once the individuals are appointed or 1053 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,599 reappointed they sign that 1054 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:51,000 acknowledgement that's my 1055 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,280 suggestion do we need public call for 1056 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,240 public because it's a resolu you're 1057 00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,680 working within the scope of of the 1058 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,599 ordinance itself you're not you're not 1059 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:06,359 amending the code and it's more of the setting the the rules within the 1060 00:54:06,359 --> 00:54:08,960 code of what you expect of your 1061 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,520 appointees go so are you suggesting that 1062 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,319 if someone calls the assessor or 1063 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:16,040 whomever they report to and say I can't 1064 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,359 make it for this many meetings because 1065 00:54:18,359 --> 00:54:21,520 they called they no if 1066 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,079 do it's it's it's something to be made 1067 00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:27,119 aware of and then something I'm sure 1068 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,040 that you the the assessor would bring to 1069 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,720 your attention and then we would revisit 1070 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,240 that issue the idea is that they're 1071 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,480 acknowledging that they have to attend 1072 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000 those meetings do those deliberations 1073 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,359 attend that mandatory training and that 1074 00:54:40,359 --> 00:54:42,040 if they don't do that they're not 1075 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,079 excused by the the assessor saying hey 1076 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:45,799 something came up I can't make that 1077 00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:47,480 hearing or I can't make that training 1078 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,960 that weekend 1079 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,000 then the assessor can bring that to your 1080 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,319 attention and you 1081 00:54:55,319 --> 00:54:59,319 can investigate that or look at that any 1082 00:54:59,319 --> 00:55:01,839 further can than amending can I speak to 1083 00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:03,680 that for just a moment there's really 1084 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,400 there I mean this there's one day a year 1085 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520 where they're expected to be there so in 1086 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,680 the the case of last year we had no idea 1087 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,280 the person they just didn't show up 1088 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,280 there was no call made there was no so 1089 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,799 that was the concern that we had no way 1090 00:55:16,799 --> 00:55:19,359 of I mean it was more of a we were 1091 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:21,440 worried quite quite honestly you know I 1092 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,079 mean that that we hadn't heard from this 1093 00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:25,760 person and and they weren't um coming to 1094 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:32,440 grievance say uh so it was you know it's that but there was also someone who 1095 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,520 couldn't make it to some of the 1096 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,200 deliberations and there was a medical 1097 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,000 concern for them and that you know I 1098 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,480 mean that to me is is a very high 1099 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,920 priority they need to take care of 1100 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,520 themselves you know even though this 1101 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,920 responsibility is important um they need 1102 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,359 to be there to to they need to do what 1103 00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:49,440 they need to do to get better um so 1104 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,760 there's it's just more of a there's I 1105 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,599 think we all can understand there's 1106 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:55,680 certain levels of things that take 1107 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,480 priority 1108 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,480 um over you know the importance of 1109 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,240 grievance day but you know your personal 1110 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,640 safety is important so in this LR here 1111 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,839 it's mentioned that um you should 1112 00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,799 provide compensation B based on 1113 00:56:09,799 --> 00:56:11,799 attendance what is your recommendation 1114 00:56:11,799 --> 00:56:14,000 to that in terms of how do we compensate 1115 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,319 someone for example they're there 10 1116 00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:18,240 hours 11 hours and don't show for like 4 1117 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,760 hours sure and my thought was to do kind 1118 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,680 of an hour hourly you know unless 1119 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,599 something is changed so the budget is 1120 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,880 reduced the board of assessment review 1121 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,760 in 200 I believe it was either eight or 1122 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,680 nine the budget was changed from my 1123 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,359 actual assessment budget to have its own 1124 00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:38,599 budget so unless that's reduced you know 1125 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:40,559 take the current scale that's there and 1126 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,000 make it an hourly thing so forever you 1127 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,599 know for whatever hours you're able to 1128 00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,799 make it and I guess I would say with an 1129 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:50,799 excuse or not but I'm not I just I I 1130 00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:52,720 don't I don't have a feeling either way 1131 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,559 it was more the accountability piece to 1132 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,200 me that your your main respons 1133 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,680 responsibility there's one day a year 1134 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,319 it's Fourth Tuesday of every may it 1135 00:57:01,319 --> 00:57:04,200 never changes so if you can't you know 1136 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,039 black that off on your calendar or 1137 00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:07,520 remember that you have to be there 1138 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,160 that's it's just really it makes it more 1139 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,359 difficult for the rest of the members so 1140 00:57:12,359 --> 00:57:13,599 how do we address that you would have to 1141 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,880 do that by by resolution no you would 1142 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,119 have to do that by amending the code 1143 00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,160 well the what are what's the current 1144 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,359 salary 1145 00:57:22,359 --> 00:57:25,880 $2,200 $ 3150 for each member and then 1146 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,680 the chair receives 3,400 they have some 1147 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,920 extra added responsibilities and the 1148 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,960 reality is there's like three meetings 1149 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,240 so isn't there the first grievance day 1150 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,400 some of the review and then they sign 1151 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,079 the paperwork M yeah they they have a 1152 00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:42,839 mandatory training if they're newly 1153 00:57:42,839 --> 00:57:44,720 appointed but most of them will attend 1154 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,039 the trainings just to give them a 1155 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:47,880 refresh before 1156 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,960 so yeah you know if you knew in advance 1157 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,359 you know how many grievances are coming 1158 00:57:52,359 --> 00:57:53,799 in how many meetings are going to be 1159 00:57:53,799 --> 00:57:56,960 there if you take the $3,100 and say say 1160 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,200 each meeting is worth $500 1161 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,680 $700 the first day which tends to be the 1162 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,480 longest it's worth a little bit more 1163 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,799 that give some more and if they don't 1164 00:58:07,799 --> 00:58:09,680 show up they don't get paid 1165 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,549 for I think we need 1166 00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,720 to if you're going to do because because 1167 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,280 the code the way it's written it say 1168 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,400 compensation you do compensation each 1169 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,280 year through the the 1170 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,720 budget but if you're now going into 1171 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,240 going to a deeper dive if you will into 1172 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,720 the terms and conditions and I think 1173 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,520 that that part of the code would need to 1174 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,839 be more fully addressed and put in there 1175 00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:39,319 as an hourly rate rather than by 1176 00:58:39,319 --> 00:58:42,200 resolution because you're really you're 1177 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,960 saying compensation but you're seeing 1178 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:50,680 you're really saying this is worth this x amount of meetings or whatever so 1179 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280 that part of the code we set 1180 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,240 compensation would be need to be amended 1181 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,440 the what I suggested 1182 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,920 is still Council action by resolution 1183 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,520 without going through the amending the 1184 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,400 code calling for a public hearing and 1185 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,160 going through that it's it's those are 1186 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,920 you could do it as more informal but 1187 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,559 formal through acknowledgement form or 1188 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:19,079 you can set out the the the attendance 1189 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:21,680 if you will via the code not not 1190 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,000 discounting what you mentioned can that 1191 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,760 be done by a budget amendment a budget 1192 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,880 uh 1193 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,000 reallocation well the budget amount is 1194 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,839 already there move the from one line to 1195 00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:34,960 the next line create another 1196 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,880 line you discuss well you already have 1197 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,200 an allocation where people are going to 1198 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,079 be paid from it I would submited part 1199 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,480 the city council to term terms and 1200 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,119 conditions of employment so that you 1201 00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:50,160 could set a daily rate or beating rate I 1202 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,079 was trying to see who make it 1203 00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:56,359 easy go ahead so I'm what I'm hearing it 1204 00:59:56,359 --> 00:59:59,079 seems like there's already some control 1205 00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,760 in place that really maybe we start by 1206 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,760 just you know I mean there's a level of 1207 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,559 some level of discussion to the assessor 1208 01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,119 which I think should remain there and 1209 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:11,799 they are letting us know that there's an 1210 01:00:11,799 --> 01:00:15,079 issue and someone you know can't meet 1211 01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:17,799 the the the responsibilities and we just 1212 01:00:17,799 --> 01:00:20,280 remove them from the board I guess 1213 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,079 instead of trying to I I I just don't 1214 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:23,599 know if this seems like it might get a 1215 01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,039 little convoluted trying to figure out 1216 01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:26,640 things looks like scope of what's 1217 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,599 already exists we can take some 1218 01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:31,760 action I I guess just going forward it 1219 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,440 would be helpful cuz I I know um what Mr 1220 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,359 O'Brien said that for newly appointed 1221 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:39,960 folks whatever the easiest way going for 1222 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,000 it because most of the folks on the 1223 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,599 board I think there's only one person 1224 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:45,960 within the next couple of years that's 1225 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,240 getting reappointed so how do we make it 1226 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,400 easy enough to to Institute now before 1227 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,520 we have any more reappointments and 1228 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,280 that's and and that that was kind of my 1229 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,400 the direction I was going with that um 1230 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,240 so I don't know if that how many how 1231 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,760 many days do they have to meet is it 1232 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,440 they have so there's a training it's 1233 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,720 generally about 3 hours with the Albany 1234 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,960 County Board of assessment review um and 1235 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,559 then there are 11 hours on grievance day 1236 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:17,079 um and then depending on the number of 1237 01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,200 grievances we have they set one two 3 1238 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,280 days for 1239 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,960 deliberations um last year we had 40 1240 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,720 grievances so I think they met on one 1241 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,520 afternoon and they were able to look 1242 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,119 through everything they have to look at 1243 01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:31,799 every single grievance regardless of 1244 01:01:31,799 --> 01:01:34,760 whether someone comes to grievance day 1245 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,799 so you know I mean depending on the 1246 01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:39,079 number and unfortunately since people 1247 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:41,559 can apply for grievance on that day we 1248 01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:43,559 never really have a good idea we always 1249 01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:44,640 have some 1250 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,160 stragglers um so there's you know I mean 1251 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,640 there's a fair number of hours that so 1252 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,720 you're looking like about four days 1253 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,240 probably give plus the training not not 1254 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:58,269 full you know not full days but um 1255 01:01:58,279 --> 01:02:01,640 yeah I have a question so Mr O'Brien am 1256 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,319 I understanding correctly that with the 1257 01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:05,119 language that you were kind of giv us 1258 01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:07,160 earlier that's in the existing in the 1259 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,200 code now no it's not that that would be 1260 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,119 a new requirement but by resolution they 1261 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,119 would require the appointees to sign 1262 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,520 that acknowledgement so they're on 1263 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,200 notice that they have to attend all 1264 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,240 meetings and and the process if they 1265 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,400 can't and then putting them on ordus if 1266 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,359 they fail to do those meetings 1267 01:02:26,359 --> 01:02:28,799 Etc they can be removed by you right and 1268 01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:30,920 that's by simple not simple that's by 1269 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,640 resolution and and then action can be 1270 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,480 taken right and then then then if if 1271 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,000 they don't have if they're not not 1272 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,960 showing up then uh Miss maroy would make 1273 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,839 a report saying this person did not show 1274 01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:47,760 up and then it's up to you to have give 1275 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,880 them an opportunity to be heard as to 1276 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,799 why they didn't show up and then decide 1277 01:02:51,799 --> 01:02:53,480 whether to remove them or not you have 1278 01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:00,750 that Authority Under the code thank you 1279 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,559 any other question a lot of information 1280 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,880 here I am I suggesting that we put this 1281 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,160 on hold for two week put all this 1282 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,039 information in a resolution from The 1283 01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:11,319 Corporation Council and come back to us 1284 01:03:11,319 --> 01:03:13,200 in 2 weeks with what have been discussed 1285 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,039 here as a pathway with working with our 1286 01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:18,599 assess if that's not I'm just throwing 1287 01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:20,960 that as from what my recommendation 1288 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,920 doesn't have to be STI so just so our TR 1289 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,760 the first Training Day April 20th so 1290 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,400 that's the you know just so you know 1291 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,319 we're working with a we're working 1292 01:03:31,319 --> 01:03:33,359 within a time frame April 20th is our is 1293 01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:36,520 the first day of training um I don't 1294 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,440 know Mr O'Brien if we just put if we 1295 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,920 have some place where people just have 1296 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,440 to do and do that as quickly as possible 1297 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,160 where people would have to sign that 1298 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,079 because the way the C code currently 1299 01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:47,039 reads it says the city council May 1300 01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,079 provide May provide that the members of 1301 01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:50,680 the board of assessment review and the 1302 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,799 clerk of said board shall be paid for 1303 01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:55,240 the respective services so it does kind 1304 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,200 of speak to pay you for what you do um 1305 01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,680 for the meetings to hear complaints and 1306 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,039 for subsequent adjourned hearings so it 1307 01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,359 speaks to the fact that we're paying you 1308 01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:05,440 for what you do so I don't know if we 1309 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,400 can just expand the language to break it 1310 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,839 down so basically to say if you CH it a 1311 01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:12,079 hearing um grievance day and he's 1312 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:14,839 shaking his head maybe not no I think 1313 01:04:14,839 --> 01:04:16,559 that you're really getting into a real 1314 01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:22,799 particulars of how much you're you're really saying x amount is 1315 01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:25,079 that you're you're it says you have that 1316 01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:26,920 Authority but but now you're you're 1317 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,200 going further and defining what at that 1318 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,520 hours are going forward you know and uh 1319 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,480 and once again if if if you're going to 1320 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,359 amend the code you're going to have to 1321 01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:41,799 go through a public hearing and it 1322 01:04:41,799 --> 01:04:44,920 just putting it up forth 1323 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,279 so don't okay so I'm just suggesting so 1324 01:04:49,279 --> 01:04:52,200 I would suggest that we put via 1325 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,760 resolution um the add the language that 1326 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,240 is going to with um this is what you 1327 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,880 know their expectation is for the city 1328 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,119 council and for cessor and if someone 1329 01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:05,079 cannot make it they let you know why if 1330 01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:06,839 there's um you know you obviously use 1331 01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:09,359 your judgment your uh discretion around 1332 01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:11,279 that let us know and if somebody's 1333 01:05:11,279 --> 01:05:12,799 unable to meet the terms of the 1334 01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:14,520 agreement then we just remove them I 1335 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,760 feel like that's the cleanest way to do 1336 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,839 it instead of getting into I just think 1337 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:20,319 we might get too bogged down in the 1338 01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:24,319 weeds a little bit should Point not but 1339 01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:26,680 should we consider also the the 1340 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,400 compensation in terms of doing be a 1341 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,640 hourly rate or should we just divided 1342 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,960 based on the M recommendation divided by 1343 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,920 the days average four days but yeah I 1344 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,319 mean it's because it's not full day it's 1345 01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,799 just it's hard to I I mean point taken 1346 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:44,440 like I I think you could do it that way 1347 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,880 and you could just look at what the 1348 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,440 responsibilities are you know I don't I 1349 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,079 guess that's not so much of a concern to 1350 01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,039 me as it is just making sure we have 1351 01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:53,960 that that 1352 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,200 accountability go ahead please and just 1353 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,039 a simple question M I don't know if we 1354 01:05:58,039 --> 01:05:59,960 asked this or if you plainly answered it 1355 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,920 but in the recommendation from Mr 1356 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,599 O'Brien is that a capacity you feel 1357 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:05,640 comfortable functioning within sure 1358 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,400 absolutely thank you yeah I mean I I 1359 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:14,789 would defer to the the 1360 01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:19,109 legal um 1361 01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:22,000 it's that's what we have here what what 1362 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,039 you can do is do because we're dealing 1363 01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:26,279 with a short period of time yes so we 1364 01:06:26,279 --> 01:06:28,279 can do a resolution with the wording 1365 01:06:28,279 --> 01:06:29,559 that I 1366 01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:31,279 suggested and 1367 01:06:31,279 --> 01:06:34,480 then at a later date once we get through 1368 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,400 the the agree you know the assessment 1369 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,279 review period revisit the issue and see 1370 01:06:39,279 --> 01:06:41,119 if you want to amend the code to do a 1371 01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:42,359 breakdown 1372 01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:45,039 because we another thing with the code 1373 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,599 is you're dealing with how many days are 1374 01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,559 you right now it's not that many days 1375 01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:52,119 but in the future it may be and that 1376 01:06:52,119 --> 01:06:54,319 that's the whole thing but once it's put 1377 01:06:54,319 --> 01:06:57,640 into that code then it becomes more 1378 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,480 difficult to change and at some point 1379 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,599 there may be 1380 01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:05,799 a a larger case load so it's something 1381 01:07:05,799 --> 01:07:09,079 to keep in mind so in the short term by 1382 01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:11,760 resolution with an acknowledgement and 1383 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,279 then revisit this at a later date 1384 01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:16,720 sometime this year after the the the 1385 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,160 grievance period is over we can uh you 1386 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,920 will have a little bit more time to kind 1387 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,000 of sort through this okay those are 1388 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,160 suggestions are we comfortable to move 1389 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,680 that motion based on legal advice from 1390 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,119 Mr Brian yes so I have a motion to move 1391 01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:41,520 that second all in favor I thank you all for your consideration 1392 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,279 thank you I'll prepare that resolution 1393 01:07:44,279 --> 01:07:46,279 with the language that I indicated and 1394 01:07:46,279 --> 01:07:49,119 that you will have it on Monday night 1395 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:51,599 thank you sir but you'll have it to 1396 01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:54,440 miss okay earlier thank 1397 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,230 you 1398 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,039 okay the next item is a reminder for the 1399 01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:02,359 Central Park sidewalk Improvement uh 1400 01:08:02,359 --> 01:08:04,079 we're calling for another public hearing 1401 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:06,119 regarding conceptd a good public hearing 1402 01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,319 is scheduled for April 8th next Monday 7 1403 01:08:09,319 --> 01:08:13,599 p.m. to discuss um concept B any 1404 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,440 question on 1405 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,400 this any other business for 1406 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,520 finance may have a motion toin second 1407 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,520 all in favor I at this time I like to 1408 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,400 call order government operations we have 1409 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,440 one item on the agenda um there 1410 01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:29,719 discussion around appointment to the 1411 01:08:29,719 --> 01:08:32,679 residency board and Madame President 1412 01:08:32,679 --> 01:08:36,440 thank you so um it's we have a residency 1413 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:38,120 board and the board has not met and 1414 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,960 there's no it's not convene it does 1415 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,359 can't convene because there is uh 1416 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,319 there's no members right now so um along 1417 01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:47,199 with some other boards that we probably 1418 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,640 need to take a look at um and so it's 1419 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,040 under chapter 87 of the um of the code 1420 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,359 and um so I was just actually was 1421 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,640 brought to my attention God bless you by 1422 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,600 a council member that 1423 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,679 um that this is something that we should 1424 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:07,600 be taking a look at as we um as we look 1425 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,319 at new employees uh it already speaks to 1426 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:11,799 the firefighters and the police and all 1427 01:09:11,799 --> 01:09:13,880 of that so that's not one of concerns a 1428 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,839 part of this and so if um Mr Farley did 1429 01:09:16,839 --> 01:09:19,960 you want to speak to that in terms of oh 1430 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,839 well I well I think part of um and I 1431 01:09:22,839 --> 01:09:25,560 don't know if this um Falls with within 1432 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,000 the scope of The Residency board but if 1433 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,199 not just something that you know we as a council should be keeping in the 1434 01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,279 Forefront of our mind is how do we you 1435 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,400 know encourage incentivize and maybe 1436 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,880 think a little more creatively to 1437 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,480 um have people that are employees of the 1438 01:09:43,480 --> 01:09:46,279 city live in the city right and I know 1439 01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:47,920 that there's you know some contractual 1440 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,520 things with our law enforcement and Fir 1441 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,759 Fighters um but even there I mean like 1442 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:53,679 is there you know I I welcome anyone to 1443 01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:56,560 kind of help us Problem Solver maybe 1444 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,760 just use our imagination to see how we 1445 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,080 can maybe be a little Innovative to 1446 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,360 encourage people to um actually purchase 1447 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,960 homes within the city because what's end 1448 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,360 up happening is that we're paying a lot 1449 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,679 of money out um and that money is going 1450 01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:13,360 to to support other municipalities when 1451 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,280 connected these a pretty great place to 1452 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,880 live right here so how do we how do we 1453 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,239 encourage that um I just think that's 1454 01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:19,880 something that should be in the 1455 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,760 Forefront of line thank you and another 1456 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,080 function of the board is if there are 1457 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,440 individuals who do work for this the 1458 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:29,520 city um and do not live in the city um 1459 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,520 and upon request of the mayor we would 1460 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,480 give them a waiver annually um to that 1461 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,760 to the 1462 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,880 employee I think that that's really 1463 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,120 important because sometimes we're 1464 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,120 looking for people with a very 1465 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,640 specialized skill set and if they and if 1466 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,280 you know we need to look outside the 1467 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,880 city for that then I want us to be able 1468 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,719 to do so so I think that that's really 1469 01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:51,679 important but I think those who are um 1470 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:53,679 gainfully employed by the city even 1471 01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:57,040 those who um have you know 1472 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,600 different contractual agreements with 1473 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,239 the city I think that we should just be 1474 01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:03,440 thinking if not Way by um mandating how 1475 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:04,600 you know is there is there something 1476 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,600 within our purview that we can make it 1477 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,480 more attractive for people to um take 1478 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:10,080 root here in the 1479 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,560 city so um we just wanted to start bring 1480 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:13,520 this forward because we are going to 1481 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,600 look at making appointments to the board 1482 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,800 and just um based on the last um the 1483 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,000 last time it looks like in the cold the board's five members one member um 1484 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,480 to be the mayor of the city's connected 1485 01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:29,840 or his or his appointee one by the 1486 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,199 Corporation Council and then three 1487 01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:33,199 members appointed by the council 1488 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:36,080 president I also did want to say that um 1489 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,320 the school district it's been very very 1490 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,600 informal conversations had wanted to 1491 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,400 talk about is there's some way that we 1492 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,280 could incentivize having people who work 1493 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,760 for the school district to to live 1494 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,560 within the city so I don't know really 1495 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,040 informal just really informal 1496 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,600 discussions but I just I want to bring 1497 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,920 that forward just to um 1498 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,480 to make you aware that there are 1499 01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:59,679 individuals who work within parts of our 1500 01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:01,639 city who are interested in being 1501 01:12:01,639 --> 01:12:03,679 residents of the city as well this code 1502 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:05,000 would not apply to them because they 1503 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,000 don't work for the city per se however 1504 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,400 they employ by the school district so I 1505 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,560 would ask that each of you um and we can 1506 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,760 have Miss Mike who send it out look at 1507 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,239 article um 87- 6.1 about the residency 1508 01:12:17,239 --> 01:12:19,080 requirements so we can have further 1509 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,239 discussion and start to um begin to 1510 01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:24,719 convene the vot also there's other oh 1511 01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:26,639 there's other municipalities like where 1512 01:12:26,639 --> 01:12:28,760 people there's certain incentives for 1513 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,560 like First Responders and and things of 1514 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,360 that nature so I just again let's not F 1515 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,199 our limitations just see what you know 1516 01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:36,679 what we can come up 1517 01:12:36,679 --> 01:12:39,719 with so uh with respect to Mr tur's 1518 01:12:39,719 --> 01:12:42,120 concerns about um open availability for 1519 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,360 every member to submit applicants are we 1520 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,199 safe to say you're seeking to appoint 1521 01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:49,400 individuals to this support at this 1522 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,120 present time well the board has to be we 1523 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,840 have to have a board in order for it to 1524 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,440 function so yeah I think that that the 1525 01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:58,440 code States right now that that is in 1526 01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:01,800 the uh fors within the wellhouse of our 1527 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,840 city council Council pres it's it's very 1528 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,760 specific it's the mayor Corporation 1529 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,400 councel and the council president it's 1530 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:08,960 very specific who makes the appointments 1531 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,280 in this particular the other 1532 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,080 appointments have been made are by 1533 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,400 Council resolution these appointments 1534 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,900 are solely by the city council 1535 01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:20,280 [Music] 1536 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,600 president it's also very specific they 1537 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,520 serve for onee term so to expire those 1538 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,719 right but certainly I'm open to people 1539 01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:30,080 that you may want to bring 1540 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,040 forward um they' have to live in the 1541 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,719 city 1542 01:13:33,719 --> 01:13:35,880 though I just understand did you say 1543 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,600 that there are people on it now that do 1544 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,159 not live in the city no oh okay sorry I 1545 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,000 didn't know I didn't know what oh I see 1546 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,760 okay I misunderstood the that there is 1547 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,040 no board I mean the board is there but 1548 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,360 it's really there was no members at the 1549 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,360 board 1550 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,149 right 1551 01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,520 okay okay any other questions about that 1552 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,960 prise that's for you not me yeah I was 1553 01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:01,199 with you I appreci Teamwork Makes the 1554 01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,480 DreamWork here okay so uh any more 1555 01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:05,600 questions comment anything around that 1556 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,679 so just just clarification you're 1557 01:14:07,679 --> 01:14:10,280 looking to go ahead and pull this this 1558 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,840 forward 1559 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,280 yes and I want members to look at what 1560 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,560 the requirements are and then if they 1561 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:17,840 have names they want to bring forward 1562 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,159 yes okay now I understood you're asking 1563 01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,000 us something despite fact that you have 1564 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,440 the appointment well would you consider 1565 01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,120 oh I would absolutely I would consider 1566 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,560 all right thank you thank you for the I 1567 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,639 don't know everyone I know many people 1568 01:14:29,639 --> 01:14:32,120 but I don't know everyone and and and 1569 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,880 more homework is uh to think about how 1570 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,320 we can incentivize people who are not 1571 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,760 even mandated uh for their contract to 1572 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,320 live in the city but and and let's look 1573 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,360 to see if there ways we can incentivize 1574 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,440 people to to live here um and there's 1575 01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:48,280 again there's some different models 1576 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:49,760 other places um where it's like First 1577 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,239 Responders things of that nature so I 1578 01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,600 just like us to think think about that 1579 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,760 okay and any more questions comments on 1580 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:01,040 that obnoxious statements no okay um at 1581 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,840 that point i' 1582 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,719 like Mo to motion to adour government 1583 01:15:05,719 --> 01:15:07,199 operation 1584 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:10,600 second all those in favor 1585 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,920 I I'd like to call the or City 1586 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,120 development and planning we have 11 1587 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,639 items on the agenda and first we will 1588 01:15:17,639 --> 01:15:19,360 invite Miss Carver up to give us a 1589 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,840 follow up on the 1590 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,480 art good evening Council mayor 1591 01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:29,600 the highly anticipated moment of ARA 1592 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,840 followup we've come a long way these 1593 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,960 last seven months if you take a look at 1594 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,199 the one pager that has been provided to 1595 01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:40,120 you since we last met Coco House bcni 1596 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,880 Hamilton Hill project and YWCA contracts 1597 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,639 have been approved um by the mayor and 1598 01:15:45,639 --> 01:15:47,560 are in the hands of our 1599 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,679 subrecipients that will complete uh 98% 1600 01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:54,280 of our off the contracts being executed 1601 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,000 once Reed 1602 01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:01,110 um I'll take donations 1603 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,719 after we have we have Electric City 1604 01:16:04,719 --> 01:16:08,159 Co-Op who their 4month extension um was 1605 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:10,679 approved and right now in the hands of 1606 01:16:10,679 --> 01:16:14,000 city council is Miracle on CRA which we 1607 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,840 received we're they're still pending the 1608 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,080 um organization to be legally 1609 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,280 established um the Empowerment Center um 1610 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,360 there were we receiv received the 1611 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,600 updated proposal um from Ron Gardner to 1612 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,880 support the miracle and Craig project 1613 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,320 and the Dory we received the updated 1614 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,440 budget to reflect the Ben um the the 1615 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:41,110 finge benefits so that is our update on 1616 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,639 Ara um I I wanted to suggest that the 1617 01:16:44,639 --> 01:16:47,120 three the three that uh Miss Carver just 1618 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,880 mentioned the Carver the Empowerment 1619 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,840 Center and Derby seem to be somewhat 1620 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,800 tied together and um so I'm recommending 1621 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,400 that we do what we did well before and 1622 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,120 have a special meeting of just arer so 1623 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,800 we could just hash that out cuz that 1624 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,520 seems like that's all that's needed to 1625 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,440 complete your work is that correct that 1626 01:17:02,440 --> 01:17:05,480 is correct so um you know these meetings 1627 01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:08,159 tend to have a lot of things but um to 1628 01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:09,800 me it makes sense for us to have a 1629 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,600 meeting that is solely dedicated to 1630 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960 completing that task and getting it done 1631 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,040 sure I know that Miss Carver and is 1632 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,239 out of the office next week yes so it 1633 01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,600 would be have to be after next week but 1634 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,120 I'm open up to the council for 1635 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,840 discussion that we do that so we can get 1636 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,560 this completed um and only discuss those 1637 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,199 items and have her here to answer any 1638 01:17:34,199 --> 01:17:36,840 questions or concerns that we may have 1639 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,719 and also probably make sure that all we 1640 01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:40,239 have all the financial information that 1641 01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:43,270 we need as well at that 1642 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,880 time yes Mr Williams so and I I also 1643 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,600 would like to open up for an inclusion 1644 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,719 of a topic I know there was comments 1645 01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:52,560 about some concerns regarding one 1646 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,360 specific organization with the health 1647 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,280 and food access I don't know if it's 1648 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,320 appropriate could we potentially add 1649 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,440 that in and see clarification on whether 1650 01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,840 that's been remedied I can speak to that 1651 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,080 so I actually spoke to Mr Perell and 1652 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,760 that has been remedied 1653 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,840 perfect could you tell me a little bit 1654 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,639 more about that so um I we all got the 1655 01:18:12,639 --> 01:18:15,639 email and so I reached out to Mr Caro he 1656 01:18:15,639 --> 01:18:17,880 said he'd spoken with the individual 1657 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,239 okay um and they work things out and the 1658 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:21,920 individual has actually been coming to 1659 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,679 their meetings great so um as far as and 1660 01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:27,239 we haven't heard anything more since 1661 01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:30,800 then from the individual so Mr Mr uh the 1662 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,440 sky Foundation said that they work 1663 01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:34,400 through whatever differences there were 1664 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,960 and he feels everything is now they're 1665 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,920 you know moving forward and there's no 1666 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,920 longer a concern from at that 1667 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,960 level that's that's great um so does 1668 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,520 that include that that organization will 1669 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,400 get the funding that they wanted and 1670 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,800 that we thought the Sketti Foundation 1671 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,480 would give to them as a part of their 1672 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:58,600 arpa um I think they had asked for 1 1673 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,080 million 100 1674 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,639 100,000,000 for transportation um that 1675 01:19:02,639 --> 01:19:04,960 they then would go to various you know 1676 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,840 food 1677 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,480 providers um who would then issue um as 1678 01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:12,679 needed um whether it be Uber or lift or 1679 01:19:12,679 --> 01:19:14,320 bus passes or 1680 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,280 whatever I don't believe those that was 1681 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,560 exactly what was agreed upon okay um one 1682 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,120 of the things that the um the 1683 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,639 organization that brought forward this 1684 01:19:22,639 --> 01:19:25,199 particular proposal M uh for first of 1685 01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:27,159 all we didn't as a council say to them 1686 01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:28,679 you're getting this money that that was 1687 01:19:28,679 --> 01:19:30,639 there was never in in a resolution that 1688 01:19:30,639 --> 01:19:33,040 said this particular organization gets 1689 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,639 $100,000 that was not part of it what 1690 01:19:35,639 --> 01:19:38,239 happened as you remember is that all the 1691 01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,040 a number of organizations came together 1692 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:44,840 and we placed them together and that the organization as a group that 1693 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,120 $950,000 we did not break them out 1694 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,719 individually and then it was up to them 1695 01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:51,960 to work through that 1696 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,239 so okay all right so this um this 1697 01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:57,080 organization now is in concerned for the 1698 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,159 hungry is now in in conversations and 1699 01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:02,280 has been working with the food Council 1700 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,960 um to move that forward and additionally 1701 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,120 in their um application there was never 1702 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,840 they never identified any specific food 1703 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,960 pantries that need the service and there 1704 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,639 are food pantries that already have and 1705 01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:16,239 that was part of my discussion with Mr 1706 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,520 Hero that already have transportation so 1707 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,880 they're they're working with them so my 1708 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,520 understanding is that um they work 1709 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,679 through it and they're working together 1710 01:20:26,679 --> 01:20:29,440 on that to satisfy that unless someone 1711 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,600 has heard differently or heard from the 1712 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,239 individual again I as I said to all of 1713 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:35,440 you in my email that I would reach out 1714 01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:37,520 to Mr Caro I did I had that conversation 1715 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,360 with him and that was the feedback that 1716 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,810 I was 1717 01:20:40,810 --> 01:20:45,830 [Music] 1718 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,800 given yes Muro I I would like to hear 1719 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,679 from concern for the hungry that they 1720 01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:53,239 would like to take their 1721 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:56,520 application their application you know 1722 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,480 um they're not taking it out that's not 1723 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:00,400 what I said I never said that I said 1724 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,040 that they were working within the SKC 1725 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:03,920 Foundation right but I'd like to hear 1726 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,600 from them that you know they're not 1727 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,800 going to come forward 1728 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:13,239 after um you know we award the $950,000 1729 01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:16,679 too um you understand what I'm saying 1730 01:21:16,679 --> 01:21:18,080 I'd like that I'd like to know that 1731 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,080 they're not going to come forward 1732 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,679 they've come forward several times in 1733 01:21:20,679 --> 01:21:22,760 several different manners and ways with 1734 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,760 emails and so i' like to just hear from 1735 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,199 concern for the hungry that they're 1736 01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:29,239 satisfied with with their ongoing 1737 01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:32,000 Communications with this connec 1738 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,239 Foundation yes Mr M yeah and follow up 1739 01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:37,840 to that can we ask the SK Foundation 1740 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,600 exit director to send us an email to 1741 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,040 give us an update of where they are in 1742 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,719 communication sure with this um agency 1743 01:21:43,719 --> 01:21:45,120 because I know we have all received 1744 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,120 email back and forth about the concern 1745 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,840 from there so I think we just need to 1746 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,880 address it and have it in writing not a 1747 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,360 problem so that um we're able to 1748 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:54,760 understand how they're moving forward 1749 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,320 yeah and I want to lend a point of 1750 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,320 clarity we have already granted the 1751 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,920 950,000 this is not contingent Upon Us 1752 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,639 granting it we've already made the grant 1753 01:22:03,639 --> 01:22:05,320 to that particular group that's connect 1754 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,159 the foundation is is uh 1755 01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:10,159 heading I Mr I would just suggest that 1756 01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:13,320 we add that back as an agenda item per 1757 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,120 Mr Williams request and then if indeed 1758 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,000 things are worked out um between uh the 1759 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,760 two uh agencies and or the larger group 1760 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,000 of agencies I think things are going 1761 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,840 then let need to discuss but at least 1762 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,520 this way we have it as a point of 1763 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:29,920 reference if we need to talk about it 1764 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,320 and that'll give some time for any um 1765 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,239 communication uh for Mr turo to reach 1766 01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,239 out or you know any council members can 1767 01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:41,880 reach out to give me clearity so um well 1768 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,280 let's just be clear that like I don't 1769 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,840 think the entire Council should um send 1770 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,040 that but I'll send an email Mr Carell 1771 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,880 and ask all ask him to respond and just 1772 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,719 put in writing what's been said if we 1773 01:22:53,719 --> 01:22:55,639 get the there should probably be no need 1774 01:22:55,639 --> 01:22:57,679 to add it because he I don't think he 1775 01:22:57,679 --> 01:22:59,360 would make it 1776 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,679 up but just as long as we get clarity on 1777 01:23:02,679 --> 01:23:04,679 that point I I think that's I think 1778 01:23:04,679 --> 01:23:08,040 that's good I just yes get the wrong 1779 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,480 person um I do want to say that the food 1780 01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,120 Council actually has a CommunityWide 1781 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,239 meeting on Wednesday at 6 o' at the mzn 1782 01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:17,400 room so we'll hear more about what they 1783 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,840 are about and what they're doing um at 1784 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,000 that time if anybody's interested in um 1785 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,719 attending that meeting it is open to 1786 01:23:23,719 --> 01:23:27,320 everyone in the community um and then I know I've 1787 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,120 been saying this like a million times 1788 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,159 and I'm sorry to keep saying it but if 1789 01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:32,800 we could just I really would feel more 1790 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,679 comfortable if in the First Column of 1791 01:23:34,679 --> 01:23:36,639 this document if we could just add 1792 01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:40,080 concern for the hungry in um to that 1793 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,080 into that square I'm sorry I know I've 1794 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,440 been saying it since we first started 1795 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:46,280 the arer proc process but we do have it 1796 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,920 in the third column but I just well 1797 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,280 actually even the third column actually 1798 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,600 has the Green Market in it as well and 1799 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,679 concern for the Hunger yes I know I just 1800 01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:57,320 I would say either just leave the First 1801 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,360 Column SKC the foundation because that 1802 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,960 is who we gave the grant to and take the 1803 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,280 other two this is the first time that 1804 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,480 I'm hearing this so I don't know what 1805 01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,560 you did previously councilwoman but I 1806 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,280 will do that I will make that change and 1807 01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,120 not a problem thank you let just sit 1808 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,239 with my anal retentiveness to clarify 1809 01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:17,480 that are we going to 1810 01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:20,360 stop I'll stop saying it it's pass it 1811 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,679 are you saying what time is that meeting 1812 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:24,000 on Wednesday it's at 6 o00 it's at 6 so 1813 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,600 our meeting at 5:00 I think well weather 1814 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:33,070 permitting at 5:00 weather 1815 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,239 permitting M car was there anything more 1816 01:24:35,239 --> 01:24:37,360 that you need to add 1817 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,440 after 1818 01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:42,760 98% yes applaudes definitely 1819 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,080 uh take 1820 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,280 another I'll be I'll still I'll be at 1821 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,520 training um but before Miss Carver um 1822 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,040 leaves does anyone have any other 1823 01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,560 questions for her all right so I'll send 1824 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,080 out an email so we can set up a date for 1825 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,280 a meeting so um staff can be present and 1826 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,360 then we'll move forward like that okay 1827 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,480 all right unless anyone has a a reason 1828 01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:07,159 that they don't want to meet in that 1829 01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:10,639 format all right thank you very much 1830 01:25:10,639 --> 01:25:13,360 you're welcome oh and stand right there 1831 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,760 item number two is um historic 1832 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,390 commission 1833 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,480 changes so we have supplied with you 1834 01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:24,040 some proposed changes to the city code 1835 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:28,360 AS it relates to the historic district 1836 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,600 um the city of ski has always been a 1837 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,320 leader in historic preservation since 1838 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,239 our creation of the first historic 1839 01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:36,600 district preservation law to protect The 1840 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,119 Stockade historic district as our city 1841 01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:40,840 progresses we need to make some updates 1842 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,040 to our city f um we've supplied those to 1843 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,960 you in advance for your review um I have 1844 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,880 Jack um from my team the planner here to 1845 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,159 answer any additional questions as he 1846 01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:55,400 has spearhead this with the Department 1847 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,320 predecessors um the department of 1848 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,880 development and planning recommends that 1849 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,719 the city council consider the the 1850 01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:03,159 updates and do a resolution to De Clare 1851 01:26:03,159 --> 01:26:05,800 city council lead agency and also 1852 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,520 provide a resolution for a Zone and 1853 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,199 coordination referral to scan County 1854 01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:14,550 Economic Development and 1855 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,719 planning there any questions at this 1856 01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:18,840 point M Mr o'ri did you have something 1857 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,560 yeah just that the Seeker resolution you 1858 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,159 need a Seeker resolution for Monday 1859 01:26:23,159 --> 01:26:25,520 night is that is that correct uh 1860 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,360 Christine and I did the part one of the 1861 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,960 secret this afternoon you'll send that 1862 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,360 over to us for the resolution at this 1863 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,080 point the ordinance doesn't need to go 1864 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,080 before a public hearing at this point 1865 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,600 you're just looking for referral at this 1866 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,480 point we need the referral referring up 1867 01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:40,199 the county for them to take a look at 1868 01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:43,400 the the draft that you prepared yeah 1869 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,719 okay and 1870 01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:49,480 um um we'll do a resolution on that as 1871 01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:51,520 well as a formal transmitt to the County 1872 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760 Planning Department so it's formal so we 1873 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,000 can go on top of the uh the draft that 1874 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,600 you're sending over so it's all together 1875 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,800 so there'll be two resolutions so Mr 1876 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,040 Brian you're saying for this Monday we 1877 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,119 just be having the Seeker for this 1878 01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:08,199 Monday you're just going to the Seeker 1879 01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:11,360 plus that that would be that's all you 1880 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,159 need then and then you need the seeker 1881 01:27:13,159 --> 01:27:15,920 and then the you're declaring lead 1882 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,760 agency and no adverse in inact and then 1883 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,280 a resolu a transmitt lack a better term 1884 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:27,719 a transmitt resolution of the proposed draft changes up to 1885 01:27:27,719 --> 01:27:29,679 County planning as well so two 1886 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:32,600 resolutions yes okay yeah so you don't 1887 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,440 need the council to take any action 1888 01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:35,920 other than that it terms them in draft 1889 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,560 yeah this is just at this point it's 1890 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,639 just resolutions for the Seeker 1891 01:27:39,639 --> 01:27:41,679 designating lead agency it's it's a 1892 01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:44,199 non-designated action and then the 1893 01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:46,080 transmitt of the draft that you have 1894 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,639 going up the County planning for their 1895 01:27:47,639 --> 01:27:49,440 review all right so we'll do those two 1896 01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:52,880 separate resolutions yes okay thank you 1897 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,040 y so so is there anything more I'm sorry 1898 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,000 that to just one just this the one point 1899 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,760 here to clarify to commission guideline 1900 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,239 Authority for adoption of designed 1901 01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,000 guidelines being drafted can you speak 1902 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,040 to exactly where you're looking okay yep 1903 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,880 U uh summary of the major mod 1904 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,320 modifications and number three okay um I 1905 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,679 was just could you just elaborate on 1906 01:28:12,679 --> 01:28:15,080 that a little bit as to like what that 1907 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:21,430 just pull it up just 1908 01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:24,280 s clarify historic commission guidelines 1909 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,600 Authority for adoption of designed 1910 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,360 guidelines to be drafted under shipo 1911 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,639 Grant accepted by the city council so 1912 01:28:29,639 --> 01:28:31,719 the there is there have been historic 1913 01:28:31,719 --> 01:28:32,920 district guidelines that have been 1914 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,199 prepared in full form um in accordance 1915 01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,840 with the aforementioned Grant they are 1916 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,960 sitting on my desktop right now uh 1917 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,600 waiting to be adopted by the historic 1918 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,600 commission part of the code changes 1919 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,080 reference these code these guidelines 1920 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,760 pretty much what the what the guidelines 1921 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,199 are going to do is it's going to 1922 01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:53,000 streamline the process for the homeowner 1923 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,840 for the applicant so that they have a 1924 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,639 listed version of exactly what 1925 01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:00,920 recommendations are are preferred by the 1926 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,639 historic commission already no matter 1927 01:29:03,639 --> 01:29:05,000 what the scope of work that they're 1928 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,679 doing for their house is so whether it's 1929 01:29:06,679 --> 01:29:09,960 roof repairs um walkway repairs whatever 1930 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,600 I be those guidelines dictate how the 1931 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,119 city and how the historic commission 1932 01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:17,239 would like those to take place um 1933 01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:18,480 obviously it's Unique to every 1934 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,800 circumstance but um you know in regards 1935 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,679 to maintaining the historic Integrity of 1936 01:29:22,679 --> 01:29:25,360 the House of breaks down the different 1937 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,840 regions whether it's the Stockade or the 1938 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,159 GE realy plot um it breaks down the 1939 01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:31,040 different styles of houses within those 1940 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,679 so it makes it a lot more streamlined 1941 01:29:32,679 --> 01:29:35,239 for the actual applicant to know what 1942 01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:37,600 they should be asking for ahead of time 1943 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,639 and these code changes will allow us to 1944 01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:42,040 have some sort of authority with those 1945 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,480 guidelines so that the commission can 1946 01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:50,629 adopt them and roll them 1947 01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:54,119 out and then uh the point thereafter of 1948 01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:56,400 bullet 4 and the same summary of major 1949 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,639 modifications could you talk to um 1950 01:29:59,639 --> 01:30:01,719 bullet B the reduction in the number of 1951 01:30:01,719 --> 01:30:04,280 Commissioners from 5 to one the main 1952 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,800 purpose for this was right now as the 1953 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,520 code says there needs to be seven 1954 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,639 members um from what I've heard I've 1955 01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:12,239 talked with historic Commissioners who 1956 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:14,119 have uh you know been on the commission 1957 01:30:14,119 --> 01:30:15,560 for decades and they said that in their 1958 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,080 entire time there they've never had a 1959 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,920 full Board of seven members um I I will 1960 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,320 note that the historic commission 1961 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,679 originally they voted to recommend to 1962 01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:25,480 you all the full adoption of these draft 1963 01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:27,719 changes and their following meeting they 1964 01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:29,760 uh rescinded that portion of the 1965 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,000 recommendation so they would like to 1966 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,840 keep at seven members um in discussions 1967 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,679 with Alex um the Department's 1968 01:30:36,679 --> 01:30:39,719 recommendation is to to lower it down to 1969 01:30:39,719 --> 01:30:42,679 five for these Quorum reasons just last 1970 01:30:42,679 --> 01:30:43,880 you know Thursday we were supposed to 1971 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,119 have a meeting that we had to cancel 1972 01:30:45,119 --> 01:30:48,600 because of Quorum issues um it it it 1973 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,320 happens more frequently than it should 1974 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,639 and it's not only a burden to me who has 1975 01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:54,480 to reschedule the whole thing refer into 1976 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,920 the 10 individual applicants who were 1977 01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,400 supposed to make their necessary house 1978 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,119 repairs last Thursday and have to get 1979 01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:02,480 postponed another week 1980 01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:05,480 um you know if if we were consistently 1981 01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:07,080 able to reach seven I don't think it'd 1982 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,800 be as much of an issue but you know like 1983 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,800 I said from from the conversations I've 1984 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,080 had with them seven has never been 1985 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,960 attained in decades so my recommendation 1986 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,800 was to lower to five are there currently 1987 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,000 five people sitting now there's 1988 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,920 currently five um my hope is to get an 1989 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,920 alternate because although this would make it so that the Quorum 1990 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,920 would be three um but I I would still 1991 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,239 prefer to have an alternate who would 1992 01:31:31,239 --> 01:31:34,040 fill in um in case a member was was 1993 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,960 absent I think maybe twice in the time 1994 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,440 that I've been here we've had a full 1995 01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:42,560 five person board which is crazy um so 1996 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,679 to have an alternate would would give a 1997 01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:47,199 lot more leniency to folks because right 1998 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:48,920 now if one person's missing and we have 1999 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,360 four people that's a quorum in it of 2000 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,199 itself so we need unanimous votes to 2001 01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:54,360 pass anything 2002 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,040 um it makes it quite 2003 01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,239 difficult okay both hands went up both 2004 01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:00,719 hands went down do you have a question 2005 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:03,639 Miss Patrick I I do so the folks that 2006 01:32:03,639 --> 01:32:07,600 are on it currently are there are there 2007 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:08,920 what's the word I'm looking for are 2008 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,800 there terms of service I mean you're 2009 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,560 saying that the same five people have 2010 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,679 been on for the same no not the same 2011 01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:17,199 five people have been on for a while 2012 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:19,239 some of the people have been on for long 2013 01:32:19,239 --> 01:32:20,920 extended periods of time the the chair 2014 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,199 of the commission is Pat Jer she's been 2015 01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:24,600 on for a very long time she was one of 2016 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,080 the ones who told me that she you know 2017 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,560 it's been very difficult for them to 2018 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,920 reach that seven member uh maximum for 2019 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,550 the 2020 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,840 board just thinking about it okay we 2021 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,239 just had a new member added uh May 2022 01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:40,960 McCarthy appointed a new member this 2023 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,840 past summer so we have some newer 2024 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,320 members but you know as with all of our 2025 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,600 L boards some of them have been on for 2026 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,119 extended periods of time which is a good 2027 01:32:48,119 --> 01:32:49,480 thing they provide a lot of 2028 01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:54,199 expertise Mr uh in in uh kind with Mr 2029 01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:56,000 O'Brien who I feel like BRS the line 2030 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,360 really well all the time any opposition 2031 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,800 to adding another alternate to kind of 2032 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,239 as a concession or do you think there's 2033 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:05,119 no validity in that was there opposition 2034 01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:06,560 to adding an alternate oh no I was 2035 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,679 asking the the the commission said that 2036 01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:11,239 they were pushing back and res sended 2037 01:33:11,239 --> 01:33:12,520 saying that they were like to keep it at 2038 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,119 they wanted to have it they wanted to 2039 01:33:14,119 --> 01:33:15,600 have the alternate regardless of how 2040 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,600 many Commissioners on there they at 2041 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,679 first it's funny because the first time 2042 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,840 I brought it to them they approved 2043 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,719 having five members but didn't want the 2044 01:33:24,719 --> 01:33:26,040 alternate and then they came back the 2045 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,239 next month and they said no we want 2046 01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:28,560 seven but we want the alternate no 2047 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,320 matter what so they kind of flip flopped 2048 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,280 their position there I think the 2049 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,679 alternate um is definitely one there's a 2050 01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:36,119 very large and dedicated group of people 2051 01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:37,400 with the historic commiss with the 2052 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,239 historic preservation within the city 2053 01:33:39,239 --> 01:33:41,119 yes um and I think having it alling out 2054 01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:43,320 on a part-time basis is is something 2055 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,440 that would be attainable and beneficial 2056 01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,480 thank you so currently the code speaks 2057 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,719 to having five so we have to do a um 2058 01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:53,119 code and have a seven speaks to seven so 2059 01:33:53,119 --> 01:33:54,480 we have to do public hearing and all 2060 01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,450 that to change all that for 2061 01:33:57,450 --> 01:33:58,960 [Applause] 2062 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,960 code yes Mr the public hearing will be 2063 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,400 after we get the comments back from our 2064 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:05,840 the County planning and then you'll have 2065 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,199 the public go forward with with a public 2066 01:34:08,199 --> 01:34:10,920 hearing and the revisions to the 2067 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,400 ordinance 2068 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,360 okay any other questions there a lot to 2069 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,600 go through it is a lot to go through so 2070 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:19,480 you have 2071 01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:22,440 time uh so first I would entertain a 2072 01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:24,960 motion to declare connect the as the 2073 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,119 lead Agency for the Seeker so 2074 01:34:28,119 --> 01:34:32,639 move second all those in favor and the 2075 01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:35,280 second motion is to 2076 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,800 refer see just refer this to the um 2077 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,199 County the yes to the County Planning 2078 01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:43,440 Department the zoning and historic 2079 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,000 district okay so 2080 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,440 amendments make you pardon the zoning 2081 01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:51,080 and the zoning count the zoning 2082 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,639 amendments up to the 2083 01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:54,880 county 2084 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,560 is move by Mr M second all in 2085 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:05,910 favor okay thank you very much your 2086 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,320 time uh the next item is update on 2087 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,760 Zoning for smoke and vape shop and I'd 2088 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,320 like Mr o'ban to speak for this thank 2089 01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,080 you madam president uh it's part of your 2090 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:20,280 packet this past week you got a draft 2091 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,960 ordinance uh there'll be a new section 2092 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,960 to the uh added to our zoning code and 2093 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:30,800 this is the uh pursuant to the uh 2094 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,920 moratorium that you proposed a month or 2095 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,920 so ago and putting regarding smoke shops 2096 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:42,000 Fage shops Etc what this is is a that 2097 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,719 section that zoning change is uh put 2098 01:35:45,719 --> 01:35:48,920 into the uh into the code there'll be a 2099 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,920 new section within the zoning code so 2100 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,520 everything you see is underlined MH um 2101 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,800 you'll notice in locations that some 2102 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,080 areas are 2103 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:04,000 highlighted um but that the uh as 2104 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,480 written the the highlighted areas 2105 01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:09,239 indicate commercial areas and those are 2106 01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:10,880 defined I just add to those for your 2107 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,440 reference at the end but 2108 01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:17,719 residential residential areas that they 2109 01:36:17,719 --> 01:36:21,400 would not be allowed um and then those 2110 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,920 additional areas those commercial areas 2111 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,679 C1 C2 and C5 you could add those uh if 2112 01:36:28,679 --> 01:36:31,400 you wish to not allow them in those 2113 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,760 areas either and then looking at 2114 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,719 restrictions on locations as of right we 2115 01:36:37,719 --> 01:36:39,639 have them just in the industrial zones 2116 01:36:39,639 --> 01:36:41,639 which are M1 and 2117 01:36:41,639 --> 01:36:44,800 M2 that but if you decide to put them in 2118 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,800 the other commercial zones as defined 2119 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,760 that the the applicant would have to do 2120 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,600 it by via special use permit and go 2121 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,480 before the planning commission to get a 2122 01:36:55,480 --> 01:36:58,520 uh uh a site uh special use permit 2123 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,239 issued which could always add any sort 2124 01:37:01,239 --> 01:37:03,760 of conditions to the site plan and 2125 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,080 you'll understand that also within that 2126 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,560 particular section 2127 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,960 has foot radi uh limits Etc and then 2128 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,000 some particulars regarding signage 2129 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,400 regarding the type of signage that's 2130 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,920 allowed so uh this this uh draft 2131 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:27,239 ordinance is is uh based as part on uh 2132 01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:29,840 the town of babylon's on Long Island's 2133 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,600 coordinance with which there's yaling 2134 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,560 with this issue so that's where a lot of 2135 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,440 this language comes from and then uh 2136 01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:39,800 some other definitions Etc came from 2137 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,960 other locations uh City of Buffalo 2138 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,800 regarding signage in 2139 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,440 particular 2140 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,560 so what you can as you go through this 2141 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:51,840 you 2142 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,199 can um 2143 01:37:54,199 --> 01:37:57,119 as you know there's a June 10th uh 2144 01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:59,719 moratorium deadline and so for 2145 01:37:59,719 --> 01:38:01,400 discussion purposes I'm making this a 2146 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,280 working draft for you to take a look at 2147 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,719 and what I'm suggesting is is is this um 2148 01:38:07,719 --> 01:38:10,639 if you want to limit the areas in which 2149 01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:12,800 these are operating commercial areas 2150 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,920 right uh you can put them as in the 2151 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,080 respective 2152 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,800 zones uh and then I can amend the code 2153 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,599 amend the draft accordingly okay and 2154 01:38:22,599 --> 01:38:25,560 then we can put this out for a public 2155 01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,280 hearing resolution for next week because 2156 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,280 as you know you have to have the 2157 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,920 resolution first for the public hearing 2158 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:34,760 and then the public hearing would be the 2159 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,199 22nd of of of of April which begins 2160 01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:40,080 putting you know bumping up against that 2161 01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,560 deadline of June 10th and then you would 2162 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,480 go through another committee cycle to 2163 01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,159 deal with 2164 01:38:48,159 --> 01:38:52,440 the any uh amendments you want to do 2165 01:38:52,440 --> 01:38:55,840 changes Etc or comments from the public 2166 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,040 so what I'm suggesting just to move this 2167 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,400 process 2168 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,760 along 2169 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,520 is uh I have a resolution on the draft 2170 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,440 public hear on the draft 2171 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:10,320 ordinance have 2172 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:14,080 that get the comments back and then 2173 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,320 after the the public hearing revisit the 2174 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,679 issue and have a further discussion on 2175 01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:21,880 it it's just a way of moving moving the 2176 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,760 process forward and you know alternative 2177 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,800 we can you can look at it 2178 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,920 tonight digest it m put it off for two 2179 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,679 weeks um and then have the public you 2180 01:39:35,679 --> 01:39:37,159 know resolution calling for the public 2181 01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:38,199 hearing at 2182 01:39:38,199 --> 01:39:41,320 a on the 22nd but the resolution for the 2183 01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,560 public hearing would be in your meeting 2184 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:48,480 in May so may so it just it just uh it's 2185 01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:50,119 just dealing with the time frames that 2186 01:39:50,119 --> 01:39:54,560 you have and uh I know I it was 2187 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:55,880 the short because of the short time 2188 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,880 frame and concern I wanted to get 2189 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,119 something before you to start thinking 2190 01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:04,960 about it and what you want to do well I 2191 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,320 appreciate that because we have been 2192 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,599 talking about this since last year so 2193 01:40:08,599 --> 01:40:11,520 you know we're into the fourth month of 2194 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,800 the new year so I appreciate you um 2195 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,920 helping to to get this done and and 2196 01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,800 moving it Forward I did want to point 2197 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,080 out the fact that I've noticed that 2198 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,239 there's a couple of things added now 2199 01:40:21,239 --> 01:40:22,599 that we hadn't talked about before the 2200 01:40:22,599 --> 01:40:25,560 Bap lounges the hookes and The Vape 2201 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:26,800 consumption 2202 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,280 businesses so just want everybody know 2203 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:30,599 that we we hadn't talked about that 2204 01:40:30,599 --> 01:40:31,840 before but this is something new that 2205 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,080 you're added based 2206 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,080 on Research which they did is is part of 2207 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,679 this whole that's what they did as far 2208 01:40:40,679 --> 01:40:45,080 as putting it within um their code they 2209 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,400 put these definitions and and within the 2210 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,800 smoke shop uh criteria and the City of 2211 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,119 Buffalo what they do with their vabe 2212 01:40:55,119 --> 01:40:58,440 shops and is is is license them um 2213 01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:00,159 that's they don't Zone it they do it 2214 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:03,400 with their license um um but once I if I 2215 01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,960 recall correctly they may also be 2216 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,000 dealing it with hooka lounges Etc so 2217 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,159 consumption so it seems to 2218 01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:14,750 be it's their group 2219 01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,760 together oh yes Mr Williams uh I know 2220 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,599 previous Corporation Council provided us 2221 01:41:19,599 --> 01:41:21,360 like a zon or districting map is that 2222 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,599 something you'll be able to replicate I 2223 01:41:23,599 --> 01:41:25,920 have a toddler so I love 2224 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,480 colors um I'd like to thank the 2225 01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:34,239 development staff Jack um you we have a map that we could for right now is the 2226 01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:36,239 zones but we don't have 2227 01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:39,560 a I I have the previous map that uh that 2228 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,840 I made for you guys um this is It's been 2229 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,520 altered since now since then um it's 2230 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,520 something that we could get fairly 2231 01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:52,229 easily yes thank 2232 01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:57,040 you anyone else uh Mr tur uh I'm very 2233 01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,719 pleased with the signage um and the 2234 01:41:59,719 --> 01:42:02,760 blinking lights um and everything that 2235 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,239 you added there as far as you know 20% 2236 01:42:05,239 --> 01:42:07,800 of the windows uh area of the windows 2237 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,639 blinking flashing lights fluttering 2238 01:42:09,639 --> 01:42:12,040 stroke you know those are all things 2239 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:17,679 that um young adults and children are kind of the signage langage is out 2240 01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:19,639 of the city buffal city of Buffalo's 2241 01:42:19,639 --> 01:42:21,960 code those that that language right 2242 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:23,760 there is out of Buffalo 2243 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,320 I thank you for adding that that's 2244 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:32,149 important and I 2245 01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:35,199 gu is there another 2246 01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:38,550 question now 2247 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:43,440 I yes um so right now what I'm I'm 2248 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:47,599 looking from the council do you wish to 2249 01:42:47,599 --> 01:42:50,119 just I guess the big question is is you 2250 01:42:50,119 --> 01:42:54,360 just want them by as by right for for 2251 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,560 just in the industrial zones are you 2252 01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,800 willing consider putting these in other 2253 01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,440 commercial zones which I defined in the 2254 01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:04,199 back which are out of right those are 2255 01:43:04,199 --> 01:43:06,320 excerpts out of our city code I just put 2256 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,440 those together so they're all 2257 01:43:08,440 --> 01:43:11,800 together um that if you decide to put 2258 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,080 them in one or all of those other areas 2259 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,719 that that would be done by special use 2260 01:43:17,719 --> 01:43:20,239 permit in other words in industrial 2261 01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:22,599 zones they just can go in there and 2262 01:43:22,599 --> 01:43:23,880 these other types of commercial 2263 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,320 districts defined here they would need 2264 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,000 to go before the Planning Commission is 2265 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,280 that something you're agreeable 2266 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,719 with agreeable to have the other zones 2267 01:43:35,719 --> 01:43:38,119 in other words are there any zones that 2268 01:43:38,119 --> 01:43:40,119 you don't want in other words this 2269 01:43:40,119 --> 01:43:43,080 neighborhood residential district uh has 2270 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,760 defined is intended to accommodate a 2271 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,679 small a variety of smallscale retail 2272 01:43:46,679 --> 01:43:48,159 businesses offering primarily 2273 01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:49,639 convenience shopping for nearby 2274 01:43:49,639 --> 01:43:51,080 residential 2275 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,599 areas may not want to put it in that one but maybe you want to put it in 2276 01:43:54,599 --> 01:43:57,159 C2 mixed use commercial District which 2277 01:43:57,159 --> 01:44:00,800 are uh a different it's a it's it's less 2278 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,920 residential as you go up the up the 2279 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,159 numbers becomes more and more business 2280 01:44:05,159 --> 01:44:07,560 and less and less 2281 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,400 residential Mr Toro yeah again I'd like 2282 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,480 as Mr Williams said I'd like to see this 2283 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:15,599 uh map that uh we all kind of like 2284 01:44:15,599 --> 01:44:18,239 worked on and and um according to 2285 01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:19,760 development we all kind of agreed on 2286 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,679 what areas or districts we would like 2287 01:44:21,679 --> 01:44:25,400 them in I agre if I can yes yeah I think 2288 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,599 that was dealing with the corridors just 2289 01:44:28,599 --> 01:44:31,080 certain corridors for for marijuana 2290 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,920 shops this is this this is Citywide this 2291 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:35,840 is this is a 2292 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,360 Citywide 2293 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,239 uh this is a Citywide looking at the VAP 2294 01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:42,320 Vapes and hookah shops and smoke shops 2295 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,239 Etc so this is looking at the big 2296 01:44:44,239 --> 01:44:46,320 picture not marijuana because of what 2297 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,639 the resolution the ordinance uh for for 2298 01:44:49,639 --> 01:44:51,000 the 2299 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,520 uh the moratorium dealing with smoke 2300 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,199 shops and vape shops so this is dealing 2301 01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:57,360 with the entire Citywide 2302 01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,880 so the various Comm there are various 2303 01:44:59,880 --> 01:45:04,560 commercial districts across the city and 2304 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,360 uh this is where you what type of 2305 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,080 commercial districts it's not once again 2306 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,719 if you just if you want to say oh no C1 2307 01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:19,239 but let's see what C2 C4 looks like put it before as a public 2308 01:45:19,239 --> 01:45:22,000 hearing have the public hearing see what 2309 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,360 it looks like and and then you'll have a 2310 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:28,320 map we have the map by that time yeah at 2311 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,280 the next you know the next cycle after 2312 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,520 you have the public hearing then you 2313 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:37,159 have a complete picture yeah I would as to what other areas you know what 2314 01:45:37,159 --> 01:45:39,159 where we're talking 2315 01:45:39,159 --> 01:45:43,400 about so is your hand up Mr M yes go 2316 01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,760 ahead so I mean we should consider I 2317 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,760 mean we have the M1 M2 which is said 2318 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,560 they can just go in and establish a 2319 01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,280 business uh I think we need some control 2320 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,520 so I will recomend that we we keep the 2321 01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:59,000 RS and the C1 2 three we we can do four 2322 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,400 and five we can add four and five which 2323 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:04,560 is more commercial C4 C5 add that to M1 2324 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,119 M2 but the rest we keep that so that it 2325 01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:08,679 will have to go before our planning and 2326 01:46:08,679 --> 01:46:11,080 zoning and that would be more controlled 2327 01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,840 right and if they happen to get it the 2328 01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:15,920 license permit they will have to buide 2329 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,480 by certain rules and regulation as set 2330 01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:20,560 out by the 2331 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,480 boards so the other thing um 2332 01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:26,000 and I you know I'll read through it does 2333 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:31,920 it oh here it is so 100 1,000 ft is um 2334 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,760 restriction on the 2335 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,159 location yes 2336 01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:40,400 okay and is there anything that says 2337 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,480 that has to be this or can we even do 2338 01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:43,920 this it has to be a certain distance 2339 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,080 from another facility that does the same 2340 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,520 thing oh I should I was referring to um 2341 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,159 page 83 of this under C the restrictions 2342 01:46:53,159 --> 01:46:55,960 location yeah yeah what what it is if 2343 01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,800 you look at see the lot line of any 2344 01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,159 property exists M shall not ex not be 2345 01:47:01,159 --> 01:47:03,360 located when a th000 ft of another legal 2346 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,440 hook of VI so it's it's a th000 ft 2347 01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:08,159 distance between each one and and the 2348 01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:12,119 way and and and significance what how 2349 01:47:12,119 --> 01:47:14,639 Babylon amended their measurements is 2350 01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:17,040 not from the center of the property but 2351 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,000 from the property line from property 2352 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:20,719 line to property line not from the 2353 01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:22,440 center of the property they amended 2354 01:47:22,440 --> 01:47:24,480 their code code and that reflects that 2355 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:26,719 for for purposes the sub the measuring 2356 01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:29,199 points were is from the property line of 2357 01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:31,360 the subject property to the property the 2358 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,560 other property line so it's not 2359 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,239 traditionally used to be plop in the 2360 01:47:35,239 --> 01:47:37,679 center and but property line Bas 2361 01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:40,440 property line property line okay so so 2362 01:47:40,440 --> 01:47:42,880 the lot line of any property wherein 2363 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,199 exists any of the you show it's 1,000 ft 2364 01:47:45,199 --> 01:47:47,560 between each one a th which is a real 2365 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,400 th000 ft yeah okay and it's the radius 2366 01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,280 not just like the cannabis this has it 2367 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:54,960 has to be in the straight line This is a 2368 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,199 1000t radius and yes that one is a 2369 01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,199 straight lot line but then you look down 2370 01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:05,119 it does talk about radius mm it it's 2371 01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:07,719 they talk a 2,000 foot radius of school 2372 01:48:07,719 --> 01:48:10,280 library church or other place of worship 2373 01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,560 park playground or playing field so 2374 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,840 they they they want more extens you know 2375 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,280 dealing with that radius for those types 2376 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,760 of uses rather than just 2377 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:25,520 between lounges so they they they took a 2378 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:29,040 much more expansive view for those 2379 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,159 particular locations School libraries 2380 01:48:31,159 --> 01:48:33,440 Church Etc 2381 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:35,760 so yeah I think we should also be 2382 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,920 looking at a tht radius for other 2383 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,080 because right now one's around the 2384 01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:40,840 corner from you is based on what you're 2385 01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,880 saying is you want you want to do radius 2386 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,599 for that as well is that in terms of 2387 01:48:46,599 --> 01:48:48,040 yeah cuz they could be really close to 2388 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,679 each other friendly based on that it's 2389 01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:51,719 not that far okay we can amend that we 2390 01:48:51,719 --> 01:48:55,840 can can add that what's your hand on Mr 2391 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,280 oh I have I have a couple of questions 2392 01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:02,199 so um that piece uh number three on page 2393 01:49:02,199 --> 01:49:05,159 83 um when it says any school would that 2394 01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:06,840 mean could that 2395 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,159 include schools that might be a dance 2396 01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:12,040 school or um you know in other words is 2397 01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:13,920 this just a public school or a private 2398 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,040 school uh what am I trying to say like a 2399 01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,320 school I think in a classroom or could 2400 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,719 it be like for example a dance studio 2401 01:49:21,719 --> 01:49:23,920 which you you know obviously you know 2402 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,199 you think about Street deal with Street 2403 01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,719 yeah I mean you know there's I think 2404 01:49:29,719 --> 01:49:32,000 we're talking about the common you know 2405 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,000 so can make that more specific I guess 2406 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,280 is what I'm suggesting 2407 01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,560 activities that's a good question yep 2408 01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,440 what do you call use 2409 01:49:42,440 --> 01:49:44,679 activities I don't know I don't know how 2410 01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:46,360 to word it 2411 01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,800 but okay we've got kids going in and out 2412 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:51,639 of these other 2413 01:49:51,639 --> 01:49:54,320 schools or establishments I guess I 2414 01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,199 should say where they're you know being 2415 01:49:56,199 --> 01:49:58,159 exposed I'll see what I can do as far as 2416 01:49:58,159 --> 01:49:59,760 finding language what you're you're 2417 01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,040 looking for it's like a youth activity 2418 01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,520 Etc I think that's I think I think 2419 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:06,960 that's what the intent is because you 2420 01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,520 look at Park and playground playing 2421 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,599 field 2422 01:50:10,599 --> 01:50:12,840 yeah when you say you activity you may 2423 01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,040 want to be specific to like Miss Miss 2424 01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:19,679 Patrick is referring to yeah that's you 2425 01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:21,119 want to be you don't want to be 2426 01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:24,560 generalizer it's going to be kind of 2427 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,280 tough kind of narrow now that I don't 2428 01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,800 know 2429 01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,080 if can talk with Patrick 2430 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:37,320 yes um and just um youth serving 2431 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,470 agencies with that 2432 01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:43,280 work M president I'll see what I can do 2433 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,159 regarding finding that um it may be a 2434 01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:49,079 difficult to get I understand where the 2435 01:50:49,079 --> 01:50:50,920 council's coming from but you know to 2436 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:55,870 find you know putting that into legal 2437 01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,199 definition 2438 01:50:58,199 --> 01:51:00,400 do youth might mean I'm not even going 2439 01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:01,159 to 2440 01:51:01,159 --> 01:51:04,159 say so I 2441 01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:07,239 think um but the other thing I uh don't 2442 01:51:07,239 --> 01:51:13,320 see in here is um daycare well that's I actually was just thinking that one 2443 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:17,189 that's part like the 2444 01:51:17,199 --> 01:51:19,320 schools a daycare is not a school I 2445 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,400 think we should be very specific if 2446 01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,440 we're going to say daycare 2447 01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:25,520 whatever else they're calling dayc 2448 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,840 carees now yeah I think that's what uh 2449 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,560 Miss Patrick is kind of leaning toward 2450 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,360 well 2451 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,639 agencies I think we can put I think 2452 01:51:34,639 --> 01:51:37,880 daycare is easier easier fit to put in 2453 01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,079 there than you 2454 01:51:40,079 --> 01:51:43,520 serving I'm sorry did you have okay Miss 2455 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,360 P was there more yeah I just I want to 2456 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,159 clarify so are we trying to decide this 2457 01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:51,360 evening about this whole M1 m2c whatever 2458 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,360 or are we waiting okay 2459 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,119 I have some questions about that and 2460 01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:57,480 then just refresh my memory we cannot 2461 01:51:57,480 --> 01:52:02,239 include Canada shops in for example uh 2462 01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:05,480 the B the location piece that's that's 2463 01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:07,440 preemption and we can't do that because 2464 01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:09,000 of the state right the state is is 2465 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,599 involved but there's other controls but 2466 01:52:11,599 --> 01:52:13,920 as far as their replacement and once 2467 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,719 again the resolution the ordinance that 2468 01:52:16,719 --> 01:52:19,520 you all passed was just dealing with 2469 01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,280 smoke and Bape shops because it it 2470 01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,520 understood that 2471 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,760 the state has a role in deciding of 2472 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,360 marijuana the way that the state 2473 01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,960 dictates it is that all the way that the 2474 01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,719 state dictates it is that marijuana uses 2475 01:52:33,719 --> 01:52:36,480 have to be viewed similarly to alcohol 2476 01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:38,719 so if you're selling marijuana consuming 2477 01:52:38,719 --> 01:52:41,000 marijuana needs to be viewed the same as 2478 01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,760 liquor stores bars anything of that sort 2479 01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:48,040 so if we were to restrict marijuana in 2480 01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,760 that way we'd have to do similar 2481 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,040 restrictions on alcohol um for better 2482 01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,599 for worse that that's how the state 2483 01:52:54,599 --> 01:52:57,719 dictates that we have to regulate 2484 01:52:57,719 --> 01:53:01,159 it still deal with commercial areas like 2485 01:53:01,159 --> 01:53:03,239 a liquor store would be in a 2486 01:53:03,239 --> 01:53:05,840 commercial Mr mud so what we're 2487 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,280 discussing here tonight is are you going 2488 01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,840 to go and have another Drive prepare for 2489 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,280 us but I would like on the 2490 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,599 recommendation what if you want to go 2491 01:53:13,599 --> 01:53:16,760 with just what you indicated earlier 2492 01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,400 mron regarding knocking out some of 2493 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,440 those C's and just going for the higher 2494 01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:25,400 level think there will be we can do that 2495 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,960 C4 C5 to can put that into your category 2496 01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,360 of M1 M2 but all the rest stays there so 2497 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,440 we have some sort of a control from our 2498 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:36,920 zoning and planning commission so that 2499 01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:38,599 they will determine and you know 2500 01:53:38,599 --> 01:53:41,560 stipulate rules and regulation how they 2501 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,440 open in these areas if they are granted 2502 01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:47,639 formation so I will amend I will amend 2503 01:53:47,639 --> 01:53:50,159 it if it's agreeable to the councils to 2504 01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:53,679 add C4 and C5 by special use permit they 2505 01:53:53,679 --> 01:53:57,440 and for C1 C2 they will not be it's like 2506 01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:58,920 a residential district they won't be 2507 01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,119 allowed in those areas C4 and C5 they 2508 01:54:02,119 --> 01:54:05,639 can apply for a special use 2509 01:54:05,639 --> 01:54:08,239 permit so I just but I think we need 2510 01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:10,520 some clarification what C4 and C5 covers 2511 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:15,000 right now c4 is downtown is intended to 2512 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,800 represent the central business district 2513 01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,159 encourages a mix of commercial Civic 2514 01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:21,920 cultural Hospitality use in the 2515 01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,880 pedestrian friendly 2516 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:28,320 environment and then the C5 this 2517 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,679 business is just is intended provide a 2518 01:54:30,679 --> 01:54:32,440 choice of locations for retail service 2519 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,560 wholesale uses serving a c wide 2520 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,800 clientele the district is also intended 2521 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,520 to provide locations for small scale 2522 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,000 assembly processing and light 2523 01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,840 manufacturing uses for C4 and C5 yeah 2524 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,119 that's C5 so right now your this based 2525 01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:51,400 on this you're suggesting that um that 2526 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,119 right now it's just C M1 and M2 and then 2527 01:54:54,119 --> 01:54:56,239 the other ones have to go for a special 2528 01:54:56,239 --> 01:54:58,079 use permit that is correct from starting 2529 01:54:58,079 --> 01:55:01,960 from C1 all the way up to C5 no no C1 2530 01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,599 and C2 will be completely be removed be 2531 01:55:04,599 --> 01:55:06,360 removed they'll be okay so you'll take 2532 01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,560 those out yes they'll be like under B 2533 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,760 location C1 and C2 C3 C you know and 2534 01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:14,920 just no building that'll be in no 2535 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,360 building that that they're going to go 2536 01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,400 into the complete prohibited and and 2537 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:23,760 then okay gotcha yeah CU see C1 and C2 2538 01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,960 is more like a mixed use in in 2539 01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,880 residential resal so it's more of a 2540 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:29,480 controlling it rather than giving them 2541 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,119 the go ahead like the sh up Anda get sh 2542 01:55:32,119 --> 01:55:34,400 and yeah we can't we can't control what 2543 01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,239 you're doing 2544 01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:38,639 here so at this point in time seems oh 2545 01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:41,800 yes Mr Tor um C4 I mean used as a 2546 01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:45,040 pedestrian friendly environment so I 2547 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,800 guess that's downtown um mhm there a lot 2548 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,480 of activities 2549 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,920 downtown for Youth and I I guess you 2550 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,360 know um prors a lot of restaurants a lot 2551 01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,840 of family 2552 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:01,920 orientated uh functions that that people 2553 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,639 visit so I guess C4 they would have to 2554 01:56:04,639 --> 01:56:09,709 get a special use per that's 2555 01:56:09,719 --> 01:56:12,079 correct yeah all the rest will have Sor 2556 01:56:12,079 --> 01:56:13,480 all the rest would have to go from the 2557 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:15,360 planning you order together that the 2558 01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,079 rest would just being because it's more 2559 01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:21,960 centralized right yes Mr okay so just by 2560 01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:27,320 way view be C4 and C5 special use permit 2561 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,800 indust and then the two industrial zones 2562 01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,360 yes and then and the be prohibited in 2563 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,800 all those other areas C1 and C2 along 2564 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,480 with the residential areas the lot line 2565 01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,920 will be from the radius from one to the 2566 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,880 X the other from a th from the radius 2567 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,320 then then again you're talking about 2568 01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:48,079 radius you're talking center right I but 2569 01:56:48,079 --> 01:56:51,040 so we're doing lot line L lot line is 2570 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,000 actually further right oh is it okay 2571 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,520 yeah so if you want to keep that I can 2572 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,400 keep okay as long as it's further I'm 2573 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:03,679 fine and and that's 2,000 ft is for the 2574 01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:07,880 2,000 ft radius is for uh dayc carees 2575 01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,199 schools libraries churches 2576 01:57:10,199 --> 01:57:12,920 Etc and use activities if you can frame 2577 01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,040 it if I can frame it if I can find it 2578 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,560 yes I'll I'll do what I can on 2579 01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:21,480 that so um is your recommendation yes Mr 2580 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,000 M way back I mean you mentioned that and 2581 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,760 I think a lot of concern was raised on 2582 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:30,159 Union Street with regards to that um 2583 01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:36,719 yes would that consider youth I'm just throwing that out would 2584 01:57:36,719 --> 01:57:38,159 that fall in that category that we 2585 01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:40,159 trying to add into US yes because we 2586 01:57:40,159 --> 01:57:41,560 don't want to say that yes we're can do 2587 01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,280 that then it doesn't fall into 2588 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,599 that I think it would fall into that I 2589 01:57:46,599 --> 01:57:48,320 mean I I'll see what I can do but I 2590 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,360 don't make any promises but I think I 2591 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:51,880 can put daycare in there because that's 2592 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:52,760 a 2593 01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,840 that is not that is not consider dayare 2594 01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,239 right right no no I want I want to add 2595 01:57:57,239 --> 01:58:00,320 daycare and um what we're talking about 2596 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,280 here that would be I I don't know how to 2597 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:04,040 work it though um but 2598 01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:07,320 I excuse me and we have Miss go ahead no 2599 01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,320 I'm just saying I think that um if you'd 2600 01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,800 want help doing research but um you know 2601 01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,000 their primary audiences at schools like 2602 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:19,599 that are I don't know are young people 2603 01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:21,360 um they probably have some adults that 2604 01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,679 are doing if you think of what is that 2605 01:58:23,679 --> 01:58:28,480 one it's um Tao taond do um but so I 2606 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,000 don't know how to word it so Mr uh 2607 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:32,280 O'Brien said he's going to try to find 2608 01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,679 some language that would satisfy that um 2609 01:58:34,679 --> 01:58:36,920 so I appreciate that Mr M did you have 2610 01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,480 can we cons consider I mean if it's it's 2611 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,000 a registered school it doesn't it's not 2612 01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,199 one of the big category School a public 2613 01:58:44,199 --> 01:58:46,719 private school but it's considered a 2614 01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:49,760 school can we that in something maybe 2615 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:50,800 for 2616 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,960 consideration way like that to say It's 2617 01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,800 Kind like a school beemp could be a 2618 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,480 driving school consider a 2619 01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:02,560 school sorry thank yeah I'll I'll look 2620 01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,239 under the zoning code and see what I can 2621 01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:07,880 find and and address those concerns cuz 2622 01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,280 those are basically recreational I think 2623 01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:11,440 so it's I don't know if they're 2624 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,920 registered in schools so we have to 2625 01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,239 figure that out so Mr Ryan if you could 2626 01:59:17,239 --> 01:59:19,880 CU we could you know right if what I 2627 01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,199 will do is uh I'll do those other 2628 01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:25,400 amendments as indicated and then 2629 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:28,800 regarding that I will do I'll do a 2630 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,520 sidebar or something if I can find 2631 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:34,239 something okay so studios are classified 2632 01:59:34,239 --> 01:59:36,800 as industry 2633 01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:41,270 6512 that 2634 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,440 mean that's a starting place are you 2635 01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,079 recommending that we call for a public 2636 01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:47,560 hearing and let you do this work and 2637 01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,239 bring it back to us on the 15th um I I 2638 01:59:51,239 --> 01:59:53,000 recommend that the calls for a public 2639 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,079 hearing that the public hearing then we can have further discussion on 2640 01:59:57,079 --> 02:00:00,239 our next committee cycle 15 uh and then 2641 02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:02,159 but at least we'll have the uh the 2642 02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:05,159 hearing already set to go on the 22nd 2643 02:00:05,159 --> 02:00:07,840 okay is everybody in agreement with that 2644 02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,199 yes we do need to move we're going to 2645 02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:12,040 have those changes um in the next week 2646 02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,719 or so yes and review and and make any 2647 02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:16,320 additional suggestion before we get to 2648 02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,560 the public hearing yeah so um council 2649 02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:21,079 members so if we if there's anything 2650 02:00:21,079 --> 02:00:22,360 else when you're reading through that 2651 02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,079 you want to have considered before we 2652 02:00:25,079 --> 02:00:27,440 get to that point or even to discuss it 2653 02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:29,159 and hash it out by the 15th so that we 2654 02:00:29,159 --> 02:00:31,079 can have a piece of legislation to move 2655 02:00:31,079 --> 02:00:34,040 out um can send it through Miss Miku so 2656 02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:35,520 that make sure everyone gets it and she 2657 02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,639 will in for it to Mr O'Brien yes does 2658 02:00:37,639 --> 02:00:40,560 that work that works yes thank so at 2659 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,520 this point in time uh any further 2660 02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,320 discussion questions concerns open 2661 02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:48,000 motion to call for publicos 2662 02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,280 heing all those in favor thank you very 2663 02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:54,310 much 2664 02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:56,719 uh the next item is discussion of the 2665 02:00:56,719 --> 02:01:00,920 community Heroes initiative so um wanted 2666 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:03,440 to bring you 2667 02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,119 forward so um and and this isn't 2668 02:01:06,119 --> 02:01:08,079 mandatory of the council but it is 2669 02:01:08,079 --> 02:01:11,719 something that I see is being done um in 2670 02:01:11,719 --> 02:01:15,599 other communities and based on our the 2671 02:01:15,599 --> 02:01:17,320 reaction of our the young lady who we 2672 02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:18,800 gave a resolution to it was not the 2673 02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,480 community hero thing but essentially she 2674 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:23,679 is Miss um tuer Hunter I thought it 2675 02:01:23,679 --> 02:01:26,199 would be nice to bring together a group 2676 02:01:26,199 --> 02:01:29,440 of residents not just us who can 2677 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:31,760 recommend people from their Community 2678 02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:33,760 people we may never know about or hear 2679 02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,840 about and allow an opportunity for them 2680 02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,679 to uh throw there be a panel form and 2681 02:01:39,679 --> 02:01:41,159 recommendations for this Council 2682 02:01:41,159 --> 02:01:43,159 essentially just to give a resolution I 2683 02:01:43,159 --> 02:01:44,719 don't want to put just in front of that 2684 02:01:44,719 --> 02:01:46,440 because for a lot of people being 2685 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,520 recognized by the council is a is a big 2686 02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,040 deal this would not preclude any council 2687 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,480 member bringing for anyone for you know 2688 02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:55,280 for resolution or anything that is not 2689 02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,040 to replace that but for an ongo for us 2690 02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:00,119 to have an ongoing way to have the 2691 02:02:00,119 --> 02:02:03,639 community bring forward individuals to 2692 02:02:03,639 --> 02:02:05,599 um to be recognized because I think that 2693 02:02:05,599 --> 02:02:08,000 a lot of people know people who we may 2694 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,119 never know about who who aren't seen and 2695 02:02:11,119 --> 02:02:13,400 so um just a way to us to celebrate 2696 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:16,480 people in our community and again be 2697 02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:18,480 done by a panel of residents from 2698 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,599 various neighborhoods across the city as 2699 02:02:20,599 --> 02:02:25,280 a close to us doing all the work um so 2700 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:26,639 and then the council would just give a 2701 02:02:26,639 --> 02:02:28,079 resolution and suggest that we do that 2702 02:02:28,079 --> 02:02:31,199 like once a month not uh you know so 2703 02:02:31,199 --> 02:02:33,159 maybe 12 a year and if there's just so 2704 02:02:33,159 --> 02:02:35,480 many wonderful people it could be more 2705 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:38,040 but U at least at one Council U meeting 2706 02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:41,159 a year and I I know that this connecting 2707 02:02:41,159 --> 02:02:42,599 Foundation currently has something that 2708 02:02:42,599 --> 02:02:44,000 they're doing called Community Heroes 2709 02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,199 that's in relationship to their 60th 2710 02:02:46,199 --> 02:02:48,560 year anniversary and that's not an 2711 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,480 ongoing thing for them and they're 2712 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,480 giving a grant of $10,000 dollar for 2713 02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:54,719 that individual to give to people I 2714 02:02:54,719 --> 02:03:00,229 don't know can we do that 2715 02:03:00,239 --> 02:03:03,840 Mr so um we'll get 2716 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,119 some so um but you know I thought just 2717 02:03:07,119 --> 02:03:09,280 was a good way to engage our our city 2718 02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,199 residents and to also acknowledge 2719 02:03:11,199 --> 02:03:12,520 individuals who are doing things in our 2720 02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,639 community that may not comeing for us 2721 02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:16,679 it's um so just to start that initiative 2722 02:03:16,679 --> 02:03:18,400 I'm not asking to pass anything tonight 2723 02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:19,960 but I want to bring this forward for 2724 02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,000 discussion and any input from the 2725 02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,599 council Mr can you just touch on in 2726 02:03:25,599 --> 02:03:27,800 terms of the makeup of this board in 2727 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:29,239 terms of what what are you thinking 2728 02:03:29,239 --> 02:03:31,679 about it in terms of the white cross 2729 02:03:31,679 --> 02:03:33,920 section of people how how how would we 2730 02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,000 go there to get members to be on this 2731 02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,280 panel to make a determination minimally 2732 02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:40,079 I think that all neighborhoods should be 2733 02:03:40,079 --> 02:03:43,239 um the neighborhood associations not 2734 02:03:43,239 --> 02:03:44,960 necessarily because there's people 2735 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,599 neighborhood Associates but in addition 2736 02:03:46,599 --> 02:03:48,760 beyond that because there are people who 2737 02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:50,559 are not part of neighborhood 2738 02:03:50,559 --> 02:03:52,559 associations who very involved in their 2739 02:03:52,559 --> 02:03:55,679 community and would lend a lot to this 2740 02:03:55,679 --> 02:03:57,880 so we just have to which is why it's up 2741 02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,760 for discussion how do we identify the 2742 02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:04,559 people uh on the board and um and then 2743 02:04:04,559 --> 02:04:06,119 what that number looks like so I would 2744 02:04:06,119 --> 02:04:08,079 not limit it to neighbor associations 2745 02:04:08,079 --> 02:04:08,880 cuz some of the neighborhood 2746 02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,679 associations have like three people and 2747 02:04:11,679 --> 02:04:13,000 but there's other people out there doing 2748 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:16,440 other work so we would have to um be 2749 02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:17,880 able to extend it to a wider audience 2750 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,040 that's the whole purpose yeah we may 2751 02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:20,559 want to consider what the 2752 02:04:20,559 --> 02:04:25,440 charges sure to them for suggested 2753 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:27,719 members yes I just think it's a great 2754 02:04:27,719 --> 02:04:29,599 idea and I think um it's definitely in 2755 02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:31,760 the spirit of kind of casting a Wi on 2756 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,480 that cuz sometimes people again it's 2757 02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:39,079 always kind of the same um group of 2758 02:04:39,079 --> 02:04:42,400 people or you know connected to group of 2759 02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:43,719 people some so I think that that's a 2760 02:04:43,719 --> 02:04:45,800 really good idea to Do It cast out by 2761 02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,920 neck to be a little more inclusive and 2762 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,400 yeah that's I think it's a great idea so 2763 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:52,440 I wrote down faith-based organ ation so 2764 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:54,440 it's just not you know churches as 2765 02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,639 people see them yes I me I think that 2766 02:04:57,639 --> 02:04:59,520 you know I like the idea I think I would 2767 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:01,639 make sure that skanky Foundation isn't 2768 02:05:01,639 --> 02:05:03,440 going to continue doing it under the 2769 02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,719 heading of community Heroes because I 2770 02:05:05,719 --> 02:05:07,960 noticed in what they've put out that 2771 02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:09,960 they're they pretty much said they're 2772 02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,000 kind of resurrecting this community 2773 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,000 Heroes program um so I 2774 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,199 wouldn't I would think that they might 2775 02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:19,480 actually do it every year um so I think 2776 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,320 we need to figure that out um I'm not 2777 02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:24,239 saying not to do this but maybe we call 2778 02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:25,920 it something different I'm I'm I'm not 2779 02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,679 sure um but I do think it in terms of 2780 02:05:29,679 --> 02:05:31,639 finding people that would be on a a 2781 02:05:31,639 --> 02:05:35,599 panel or you know to judge or whatever 2782 02:05:35,599 --> 02:05:37,920 um a similar kind of process in terms of 2783 02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,239 I mean we could just you know put it out 2784 02:05:40,239 --> 02:05:42,000 in the Gazette or whatever that we were 2785 02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,360 looking for people that might be 2786 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:45,960 interested in being on this panel um 2787 02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:50,159 come up with you know a meeting date Etc 2788 02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:53,320 and see who comes in from that I guess 2789 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,239 but I I think you know and then we would 2790 02:05:55,239 --> 02:05:56,920 have we would be responsible for making 2791 02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:58,480 sure that the neighborhood associations 2792 02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,880 got it that other groups that we all 2793 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,280 know um Civic groups Etc that they might 2794 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:05,719 want to suggest 2795 02:06:05,719 --> 02:06:09,520 people and I did reach out to the sky 2796 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,639 foundation and so they are not they said 2797 02:06:12,639 --> 02:06:15,960 that yes that is what they said and um 2798 02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:18,320 and I don't think having naming people 2799 02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:19,760 what they are just because another 2800 02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:21,679 organization is doing it because there's 2801 02:06:21,679 --> 02:06:22,920 for a specific thing around their 2802 02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,800 specific anniversary just for that event 2803 02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,400 and then for the next 11 months nobody's 2804 02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,440 going to be recognized but we can handle 2805 02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:32,480 that um so um I agree that we I wrote 2806 02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,199 down churches I wrote down faith-based 2807 02:06:34,199 --> 02:06:37,199 organizations Civic organizations and so 2808 02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:39,920 just to do some Outreach um but I want 2809 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:41,079 to bring it to the council for 2810 02:06:41,079 --> 02:06:43,119 discussion and for us to just come up 2811 02:06:43,119 --> 02:06:44,679 with some ideas to how we begin to 2812 02:06:44,679 --> 02:06:46,960 formulate this again I think it's a it's 2813 02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,280 a feel good thing for people um the Miss 2814 02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,599 uh Miss Hunter Mrs Hunter was just 2815 02:06:52,599 --> 02:06:54,599 really 2816 02:06:54,599 --> 02:06:57,280 excited about it um not everyone will 2817 02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,760 have that those number of people in the 2818 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,360 audience but um so I just thought that 2819 02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:03,400 something we could bring forward I've 2820 02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:04,840 been thinking about for a while and that 2821 02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:07,199 it really sealed it for me when I saw 2822 02:07:07,199 --> 02:07:09,280 how much it meant to 2823 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,440 her Mr Williams uh just wanted to 2824 02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:14,880 clarify I know you uh the last sentence 2825 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:16,199 in your recommendation the council will 2826 02:07:16,199 --> 02:07:18,880 give a resolution just wanted to confirm 2827 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,320 one resolution monthly um I said did say 2828 02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,440 one but I said if we felt if as a 2829 02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:26,440 council we felt that we needed to extend 2830 02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,679 that um I don't I want it to be 2831 02:07:28,679 --> 02:07:30,960 meaningful so that we're not it's just 2832 02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:37,000 not like high volume yeah high volume okay not high volume so um 2833 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,280 separate point I know I imagine part of 2834 02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,000 the Ambiance like we sit here and 2835 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,119 delegate like all the time is coming to 2836 02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:45,119 the council but I know you always say 2837 02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:46,960 Miss Porterfield um how you see it's 2838 02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:48,679 based on where you sit and I know 2839 02:07:48,679 --> 02:07:52,199 although um Miss uh uh Tucker was was 2840 02:07:52,199 --> 02:07:53,960 really taken back being in that moment 2841 02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,000 in the chamber 2842 02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,360 I I would have loved to see her receive 2843 02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:00,239 that at sium where it's like her home 2844 02:08:00,239 --> 02:08:01,760 and then in her community so I don't 2845 02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:04,040 know if we can discuss presenting it in 2846 02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,639 the environments where people have done 2847 02:08:05,639 --> 02:08:08,119 the work um that way we can see from 2848 02:08:08,119 --> 02:08:12,400 their perspective what their um their labors have produced and that can 2849 02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:13,840 attract their Community some place they 2850 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,239 feel comfortable not that they don't 2851 02:08:15,239 --> 02:08:17,239 feel comtable here but it's like you're 2852 02:08:17,239 --> 02:08:20,880 going to their home okay well it's oh 2853 02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:22,040 I'm sorry go ahead no I was going to say 2854 02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,440 I think that if we move forward with 2855 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,079 this and we bring together a group of 2856 02:08:26,079 --> 02:08:28,920 people who will then be this panel I 2857 02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:31,199 think some of those kinds of um 2858 02:08:31,199 --> 02:08:34,000 parameters and suggestions that we can 2859 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,000 Empower that that volunteer committee 2860 02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:40,239 even to um you know to to think about 2861 02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:41,800 things like what Mr Williams is 2862 02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,960 suggesting I think you 2863 02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:46,280 know and come back to us with you know 2864 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:47,639 here's what we think the program should 2865 02:08:47,639 --> 02:08:49,880 look like 2866 02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,320 um and then that outside the realm of 2867 02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,639 possibility because currently we pass 2868 02:08:54,639 --> 02:08:56,159 resolutions that we do not present here 2869 02:08:56,159 --> 02:08:57,880 with the council that we take to 2870 02:08:57,880 --> 02:08:59,559 wherever if there's an event or whatever 2871 02:08:59,559 --> 02:09:03,430 so that's not outside the realm of 2872 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,400 possibility anyone else any yes Mr I 2873 02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:09,559 think it's a great idea and um Fly 2874 02:09:09,559 --> 02:09:12,360 support and look forward to us rolling 2875 02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:13,920 this out 2876 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:15,920 okay 2877 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,199 um because you're endorsing it you will 2878 02:09:18,199 --> 02:09:20,079 have to submit the first 2879 02:09:20,079 --> 02:09:23,470 name okay 2880 02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,199 and so and I'm again I'm not asking the 2881 02:09:26,199 --> 02:09:27,840 council to do a heavy lift on this but 2882 02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,400 which is why we would convene the panel 2883 02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:31,480 to to do some of the work but it 2884 02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:32,599 shouldn't be a heavy lift it should 2885 02:09:32,599 --> 02:09:35,119 probably be a lift that people would be 2886 02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:38,679 um excited to do sure so I will keep 2887 02:09:38,679 --> 02:09:41,360 your rest and uh I will take into 2888 02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:42,599 consideration all the comments that 2889 02:09:42,599 --> 02:09:43,800 you've made tonight put something 2890 02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,960 together and we'll bring it back 2891 02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,719 again and any other questions or 2892 02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:52,599 comments or suggestions for that 2893 02:09:52,599 --> 02:09:55,520 okay um item number five ceremonial 2894 02:09:55,520 --> 02:10:02,400 resolution recognizing Pastor Parson for years of community service Mr far 2895 02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,119 thank you madam president so much in the 2896 02:10:04,119 --> 02:10:05,599 same Spirit of what we've been 2897 02:10:05,599 --> 02:10:07,760 discussing um you know Pastor Richard 2898 02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,679 Parson is someone who is uh is is a 2899 02:10:10,679 --> 02:10:13,199 pillar in the community who has made 2900 02:10:13,199 --> 02:10:15,719 Investments um in people's lives and 2901 02:10:15,719 --> 02:10:18,960 really uh exemplifies what it means to 2902 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:21,559 be a Community member that helps to 2903 02:10:21,559 --> 02:10:23,320 build community so I just think that 2904 02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:24,960 it's appropriate he actually just 2905 02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:27,760 celebrated his 80th birthday um and I 2906 02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:29,960 think that uh it's more than appropriate 2907 02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:32,079 for us to uh have a ceremonial 2908 02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:34,000 resolution recognizing his efforts and 2909 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,360 his contributions to the community any 2910 02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,679 questions or comments I move those 2911 02:10:38,679 --> 02:10:43,440 second all in favor I I thank you uh 2912 02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:45,920 item number six of CR encouraging um St 2913 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:47,960 Peter's partner in the El Health 2914 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:51,119 Administration um on settling the nurses 2915 02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:54,079 um um and patients to nurses and patient 2916 02:10:54,079 --> 02:10:56,159 to settle a fair contract is being 2917 02:10:56,159 --> 02:11:00,400 pulled um at the request of the per uh 2918 02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:03,599 Mr Farley to look at the 2919 02:11:03,599 --> 02:11:06,000 language so we'll we'll you'll see that 2920 02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,079 back in two weeks M all right thank you 2921 02:11:08,079 --> 02:11:11,159 very much item number seven Amendment to 2922 02:11:11,159 --> 02:11:12,520 the community benefits agreement between 2923 02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:15,360 the city and West yard Properties LLC as 2924 02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,440 you recall this did go through committee 2925 02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:19,920 before that to the floor and did not get 2926 02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,800 to the roll call vote 2927 02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:23,400 which was asked for by a council member 2928 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:25,840 so I'm bringing this back again um there 2929 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,079 was and just just to keep in 2930 02:11:28,079 --> 02:11:30,639 mind passing this resolution only opens 2931 02:11:30,639 --> 02:11:32,440 up a discussion because the mayor says 2932 02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:34,719 in order to even have a discussion 2933 02:11:34,719 --> 02:11:37,599 regarding this that that it has to go 2934 02:11:37,599 --> 02:11:40,440 through a formal resolution process I 2935 02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:41,520 personally see nothing wrong with 2936 02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:43,239 communicating and that's how we you know 2937 02:11:43,239 --> 02:11:45,559 get to where we want to be so again this 2938 02:11:45,559 --> 02:11:47,159 resolution is just opening this process 2939 02:11:47,159 --> 02:11:49,119 up for 2940 02:11:49,119 --> 02:11:52,360 discussion any discussion on that 2941 02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:54,239 [Music] 2942 02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:58,280 yes Mr F I would just uh again say uh 2943 02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,400 that again I don't know that we need to 2944 02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,000 do an official resolution in order to 2945 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:07,880 get to the point of conversation um I 2946 02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:10,000 can see the need to have maybe some 2947 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,800 things um written down I think 2948 02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,520 that a letter will be sufficient enough 2949 02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:18,480 um to have between parties I don't think 2950 02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,440 that we need to go the route of official 2951 02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:22,960 resolution to get to the point of to 2952 02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:24,679 open up conversation so I'm not exactly 2953 02:12:24,679 --> 02:12:29,079 sure why uh that was suggested or or 2954 02:12:29,079 --> 02:12:30,800 direct like that's the only way I don't 2955 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:32,040 understand why that would be the well 2956 02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:33,320 that that would be a question mayor 2957 02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:35,360 would you if you would like to address 2958 02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:38,159 that we just wanted the council to be on 2959 02:12:38,159 --> 02:12:41,239 record in a formal way I know where I'm 2960 02:12:41,239 --> 02:12:43,639 negotiating 2961 02:12:43,639 --> 02:12:46,960 from so I would suggest 2962 02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,000 that I mean I don't know if anyone else 2963 02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:50,119 feels that we 2964 02:12:50,119 --> 02:12:53,559 can acceptable for a letter just sign so 2965 02:12:53,559 --> 02:12:56,079 there's some formal position of the 2966 02:12:56,079 --> 02:12:58,960 council as opposed to random 2967 02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:01,000 discussions yes Miss Patrick I know I 2968 02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:02,480 haven't been here uh for the last two 2969 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:04,360 weeks so I don't know if you all I don't 2970 02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:07,040 think You' discussed this two weeks ago 2971 02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:10,040 but we had talked about um the 2972 02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:13,159 possibility of that and I think we we 2973 02:13:13,159 --> 02:13:14,920 both had said a similar kind of thing 2974 02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:16,960 around um you 2975 02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,360 know we have to see if the developer is 2976 02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:22,679 sort of amable to some of the these um 2977 02:13:22,679 --> 02:13:24,440 additional suggestions for the community 2978 02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:26,599 benefits agreement or maybe maybe it was 2979 02:13:26,599 --> 02:13:29,760 Mr manini that um this was would have 2980 02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,159 been like few weeks ago um at a 2981 02:13:33,159 --> 02:13:36,360 committee meeting um because we want to 2982 02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:37,480 make sure that anything that we're 2983 02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:39,920 suggesting is realistic in terms of what 2984 02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:42,599 he um you 2985 02:13:42,599 --> 02:13:45,960 know right I just want to restate that 2986 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:47,719 bringing this forward only opens up 2987 02:13:47,719 --> 02:13:49,400 discussions that's what it's for it's 2988 02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:51,920 not saying you absolutely must do 2989 02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:53,960 according to the mayor wanted formal 2990 02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:56,159 action by the council in order to even 2991 02:13:56,159 --> 02:13:58,520 enter into those discussions so it 2992 02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:01,239 becomes a point of discussion once we 2993 02:14:01,239 --> 02:14:04,559 bring this to the um the developer so 2994 02:14:04,559 --> 02:14:06,360 it's for 2995 02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:08,760 discussion Mr man I would I would 2996 02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:10,639 support a letter I know Mr O'Brien who 2997 02:14:10,639 --> 02:14:12,960 mentioned that in previous conversations 2998 02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:18,430 and that um that could be our first step 2999 02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:21,760 is the letter with 3000 02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:29,960 all I need request Mr M so the a letter or a resolution is the 3001 02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:32,000 same language can be in the letter the 3002 02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:33,280 same language going to be in a 3003 02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:36,079 resolution so both is we are going to 3004 02:14:36,079 --> 02:14:38,679 authorize the mayor to to go into some 3005 02:14:38,679 --> 02:14:42,280 sort of a discussion with this developer 3006 02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:45,360 so I'm not sure resolution or letter 3007 02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:46,440 it's the same 3008 02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:50,159 part yes Mr car so what I was saying is 3009 02:14:50,159 --> 02:14:51,280 that I just don't know that's the best 3010 02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:52,800 course of action meaning that a 3011 02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,559 resolution um we vote out of committee 3012 02:14:55,559 --> 02:14:57,480 and then again we'll be waiting for it 3013 02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:00,000 um to to uh take the larger vote in the 3014 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,960 chamber whereas if there's a letter 3015 02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:03,920 which I mean uh president Porterfield 3016 02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:06,320 has been diligently kind um working on 3017 02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:07,760 getting feedback from council members 3018 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:09,480 and community members to to come up with 3019 02:15:09,480 --> 02:15:11,119 some of these suggestions I think that 3020 02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:16,199 we just stay that course of action and and then council members who support 3021 02:15:16,199 --> 02:15:19,520 um uh what's been drafted can sign the 3022 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:21,239 letter we can send it over to the velop 3023 02:15:21,239 --> 02:15:23,199 ER then there is to the mayor's point 3024 02:15:23,199 --> 02:15:25,360 it's not just kind of a back and forth 3025 02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:27,599 conversation there's something on uh 3026 02:15:27,599 --> 02:15:30,000 paper that people can say yep I support 3027 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,440 that or maybe I don't but therefore we 3028 02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:34,159 submitted to developer then we can move 3029 02:15:34,159 --> 02:15:37,559 forward I just feel like making it uh uh 3030 02:15:37,559 --> 02:15:39,920 an official resolution is 3031 02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:41,960 just I just don't know that's the most 3032 02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:43,960 efficient way to do it and I that was my 3033 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:45,440 position from the 3034 02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:48,599 beginning Mr Williams oh I'm sorry so so 3035 02:15:48,599 --> 02:15:51,559 in terms of the letter do we need all 3036 02:15:51,559 --> 02:15:55,400 members to sign on before you act 3037 02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,280 no just majority you don't need all the 3038 02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:01,880 members to pass a resolution okay just 3039 02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:03,400 to be clear are you saying that you need 3040 02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:04,559 at least four signatures though because 3041 02:16:04,559 --> 02:16:05,840 we do need four signatures to pass a 3042 02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:08,440 resolution well I assume your infinite 3043 02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:10,199 wisdom and guidance you get seven 3044 02:16:10,199 --> 02:16:12,159 signatures on everything and everybody 3045 02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:14,679 would be happy and it' be a much clearer 3046 02:16:14,679 --> 02:16:16,679 message but that's been my goal from the 3047 02:16:16,679 --> 02:16:18,119 beginning mayor but as you can see it's 3048 02:16:18,119 --> 02:16:19,920 not really working out like 3049 02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:23,119 that few short of that we'll work with 3050 02:16:23,119 --> 02:16:25,719 it yes Mr willes but I mean there's a 3051 02:16:25,719 --> 02:16:27,880 difference between supporting a res 3052 02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:29,480 supporting a letter and endorsing a 3053 02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:31,040 letter and then we don't have to wonder 3054 02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:32,319 we can go around the table and ask to 3055 02:16:32,319 --> 02:16:35,399 see where everyone's position is right 3056 02:16:35,399 --> 02:16:38,800 now I would endorse that 3057 02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:42,519 letter oh before that uh Mr so the 3058 02:16:42,519 --> 02:16:45,599 letter is just we sign it so we can 3059 02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:48,040 discuss right versus 3060 02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:51,840 the I'm I'm I'm hearing that the letter 3061 02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,960 is what we would want in there and send 3062 02:16:53,960 --> 02:16:57,800 to um West yard but that's not what it 3063 02:16:57,800 --> 02:16:59,519 is the letter would just be in place of 3064 02:16:59,519 --> 02:17:02,280 a resolution that we can discuss no no 3065 02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:05,080 the letter would go to the to the would 3066 02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:08,679 go to the to the mayor and to the the 3067 02:17:08,679 --> 02:17:11,679 developer we need undersign members of 3068 02:17:11,679 --> 02:17:15,080 this connected city council um set forth 3069 02:17:15,080 --> 02:17:18,160 our proposal proposals whatever you 3070 02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:21,920 would frame it below and then each 3071 02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:23,559 whatever council members want to sign on 3072 02:17:23,559 --> 02:17:25,719 to that letter sign on to that 3073 02:17:25,719 --> 02:17:30,040 letter Mr so it's it's more of um kind 3074 02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:32,120 of like giv the mayor kind of like 3075 02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:35,200 authorization to open discussion with 3076 02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:37,800 the developer in in a way to see if they 3077 02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:40,000 are acceptable to these five additional 3078 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,479 terms and if they're not then whatever 3079 02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:44,240 they agreed on and we can move forward 3080 02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:47,800 as a body then we will move to amend 3081 02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:49,880 that resolution that the mayor uh we 3082 02:17:49,880 --> 02:17:52,599 authorize the mayor to enter with the uh 3083 02:17:52,599 --> 02:17:55,319 West yard property so there is not much 3084 02:17:55,319 --> 02:17:56,760 thing happening just authorizing the 3085 02:17:56,760 --> 02:17:59,760 mayor to to start negotiation it's so 3086 02:17:59,760 --> 02:18:02,599 it's a letter resolution we're good with 3087 02:18:02,599 --> 02:18:07,319 it yes Mr fley Y and and as we're given 3088 02:18:07,319 --> 02:18:10,160 we're instead of just kind of different 3089 02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:11,920 voices at the table saying different 3090 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:18,559 things this is more of a a more clear defined um things that we 3091 02:18:18,559 --> 02:18:21,760 would wish to see in the or in the 3092 02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:23,760 existing Community Ben benefits 3093 02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:25,439 agreement therefore that's a position 3094 02:18:25,439 --> 02:18:28,240 from the mayor um to negotiate from with 3095 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,800 the developer I think that's how I 3096 02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:33,000 understand this yes 3097 02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,080 okay so what do you need from us then 3098 02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:39,120 I'm okay with the letter so Mr oh Mr 3099 02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:41,240 mantin so you know if we can get the 3100 02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:43,080 letter that we get it moving and and if 3101 02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:45,160 the developer wants to make a counter 3102 02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:47,359 proposal we can get that look at that 3103 02:18:47,359 --> 02:18:49,880 right and then take next steps to take a 3104 02:18:49,880 --> 02:18:52,880 look at it is is workable and then it 3105 02:18:52,880 --> 02:18:54,960 goes into if there's something that they 3106 02:18:54,960 --> 02:18:59,519 want to propose an alternative or the 3107 02:18:59,519 --> 02:19:02,000 modification we can take a look at it 3108 02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:03,679 down the line something they are not 3109 02:19:03,679 --> 02:19:05,399 agreeable to they'll give them a chance 3110 02:19:05,399 --> 02:19:07,200 to respond so we can move the process 3111 02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:09,840 forward as quickly as we can and who 3112 02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:12,479 knows sorry they might yeah they may 3113 02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:14,160 just look 3114 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:17,359 at Mr how was it going say who knows Dev 3115 02:19:17,359 --> 02:19:19,000 my state look at this list and say hey 3116 02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:22,280 you guys forgot we could even do this 3117 02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:26,479 let's not you know hey I think honestly 3118 02:19:26,479 --> 02:19:27,960 I don't think that's overly optimistic 3119 02:19:27,960 --> 02:19:30,200 if you know if we're interested and 3120 02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:31,439 making sure that the community gets the 3121 02:19:31,439 --> 02:19:34,960 most benefit out of us right right yes 3122 02:19:34,960 --> 02:19:37,960 and this would be between the mayor and 3123 02:19:37,960 --> 02:19:41,040 West yard Properties LLC that's what 3124 02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:43,559 we're giving the mayor per permission to 3125 02:19:43,559 --> 02:19:47,840 negotiate with at this point or yes yes 3126 02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:49,080 what you're setting forth is your 3127 02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:52,800 position to to to to the developer right 3128 02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:54,280 the May to bring to the developer to 3129 02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:56,520 West yard property LLC so it should be 3130 02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:59,520 addressed to both yes so I'm not I guess 3131 02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:01,399 I'm not clear on on your I'm just 3132 02:20:01,399 --> 02:20:03,880 reading here clear 3133 02:20:03,880 --> 02:20:06,160 y I think it's more authorizing the 3134 02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:08,280 mayor to enter into a negotiation with 3135 02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:11,000 bestard to negotiate these five terms 3136 02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:13,000 and conditions here and if there are 3137 02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:15,920 changes back from the the developer 3138 02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:18,640 through the mayor that will come to us 3139 02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:21,439 and we will discuss 3140 02:20:21,439 --> 02:20:22,560 and then move 3141 02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:25,359 forward at that point in time to the 3142 02:20:25,359 --> 02:20:27,720 original resolution but at this time is 3143 02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,399 authorizing this discussion nothing is 3144 02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:32,280 changing at this point in time it's just 3145 02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:34,680 moving forward so requesting requesting 3146 02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:37,600 a discussion right Mr far I was just 3147 02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:39,240 going to say and in the in the mayor's 3148 02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:41,160 infinite wisdom and Leadership I'm sure 3149 02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:43,080 that he'll be able to get everything 3150 02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:47,990 done more no pressure we just 3151 02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:50,960 all any further discussion that was just 3152 02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:54,319 a stretch I'm I'm I'm good with U for a 3153 02:20:54,319 --> 02:20:56,800 letter so is there anyone that's opposed 3154 02:20:56,800 --> 02:21:00,800 to that well you know what um I won't 3155 02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:03,439 ask people on the SP I think I've heard 3156 02:21:03,439 --> 02:21:05,319 at least four people or more at this 3157 02:21:05,319 --> 02:21:08,280 table said that they're um comfortable 3158 02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:11,479 with um the letter so uh I would ask 3159 02:21:11,479 --> 02:21:14,479 that you mrri draft that letter you want 3160 02:21:14,479 --> 02:21:16,280 me I'll draft a letter using the 3161 02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:19,920 language from the yes previously so I 3162 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,520 will send that to you and then and any 3163 02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:27,040 changes M uh president you can change it 3164 02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:30,960 and then once you're satisfied with the 3165 02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:33,399 S out to the members and ask them to 3166 02:21:33,399 --> 02:21:36,040 sign any other 3167 02:21:36,040 --> 02:21:40,070 further we don't need to 3168 02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:43,200 anything okay any other questions 3169 02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:45,479 comments concerns okay we'll move 3170 02:21:45,479 --> 02:21:46,640 forward with 3171 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:48,560 that 3172 02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,880 um I believe that is oh that is the last 3173 02:21:51,880 --> 02:21:53,880 thing executive session but just before 3174 02:21:53,880 --> 02:21:57,439 I just want to make a couple comments um 3175 02:21:57,439 --> 02:22:00,080 before we go into executive session all 3176 02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:03,600 of you received an email from uh Fatima 3177 02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:05,240 assat I think I'm going to pronounce her 3178 02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:08,520 name correctly and um coming up on the 3179 02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:11,240 10th is a holiday a Muslim holiday 3180 02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:14,080 called Eid and she was asking that to 3181 02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:16,399 have a performance at the city council 3182 02:22:16,399 --> 02:22:18,520 meeting not asking for a resolution or 3183 02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:21,439 anything like that so um um I'm 3184 02:22:21,439 --> 02:22:23,720 certainly open to them coming just to do 3185 02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:26,000 a performance as and I guess they got 3186 02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:28,120 the idea when the dancers came for St 3187 02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:30,280 Patrick's Day so they would come and 3188 02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:32,760 just do a little performance three four 3189 02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:35,439 minutes um the other thing 3190 02:22:35,439 --> 02:22:38,720 is that oh the waste committee has been 3191 02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:40,160 meeting so just so you know we're not 3192 02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:41,920 just like not doing 3193 02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:46,439 anything and so the mayor um and uh Miss 3194 02:22:46,439 --> 02:22:47,920 car Mrs Carr are putting something 3195 02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:49,359 together so there'll be a presentation 3196 02:22:49,359 --> 02:22:53,280 to council just to know that to bring up the speed and at the next 3197 02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:55,760 committee meeting to as to um you know 3198 02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:57,840 where we are and what we'd be asking of 3199 02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,640 the council did Mr T did you want to add 3200 02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:03,120 anything to that uh I do not we've been 3201 02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:05,520 moving forward a lot of ideas been uh 3202 02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:08,520 passed around and uh we're coming to a 3203 02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:10,280 decision on on what we wanted to present 3204 02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:11,200 to the 3205 02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:13,960 council could I just um add we didn't 3206 02:23:13,960 --> 02:23:16,600 pass the it starts with me anti- litter 3207 02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:18,640 proposal a couple years ago so I just 3208 02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:20,680 want to throw that out there that if you 3209 02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:23,120 need that or want to look at it again uh 3210 02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,720 to add into the mix of things that you 3211 02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:26,920 might be talking about I'd be happy to 3212 02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:28,120 send 3213 02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:31,720 it uh it had a lot of information about 3214 02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:34,720 all sorts of things education equipment 3215 02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:36,680 um it was all different kinds of areas 3216 02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:38,439 to try 3217 02:23:38,439 --> 02:23:41,760 to certainly you can that at this point 3218 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:45,439 I think it's just a we're working on how 3219 02:23:45,439 --> 02:23:49,279 to U recover revenue and so a much 3220 02:23:49,279 --> 02:23:51,760 bigger yeah so that is work in good with 3221 02:23:51,760 --> 02:23:55,080 if they coming up and we can definitely 3222 02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:58,240 look at that again okay yes so just 3223 02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:01,800 presentation of where they where the May 3224 02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:03,960 is with terms of the the garbage 3225 02:24:03,960 --> 02:24:07,479 discussion so just up up outline some of 3226 02:24:07,479 --> 02:24:09,720 the options that may require the 3227 02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:13,190 council's 3228 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:16,880 action so just you know to present that 3229 02:24:16,880 --> 02:24:18,640 uh move forward and just to say it out 3230 02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:20,200 loud that on the 27th there is clean up 3231 02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:21,880 dat I know right three neighborhoods so 3232 02:24:21,880 --> 02:24:25,800 far that are in so reach out to other 3233 02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:28,359 neighborhoods to if they're interested 3234 02:24:28,359 --> 02:24:30,800 and being part of the clean up 3235 02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:32,880 dayon is you look like you're in deep 3236 02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:34,680 thought over there no no I was just 3237 02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:36,359 thinking so so we're going to have the 3238 02:24:36,359 --> 02:24:38,840 presentation and then you expecting us 3239 02:24:38,840 --> 02:24:42,560 to move at that point in time okay okay 3240 02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:46,720 I'm you Council say this is all great 3241 02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:49,240 solved all the problems it's unless you 3242 02:24:49,240 --> 02:24:51,560 share unless you share the prior to that 3243 02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:53,240 then we can you know you know look it 3244 02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:55,560 over and then before the presentation so 3245 02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:57,600 that way if we need to move on something 3246 02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:59,840 that specific night we had enough time 3247 02:24:59,840 --> 02:25:02,359 to kind of read over the documents I 3248 02:25:02,359 --> 02:25:03,560 really think this would just bring the 3249 02:25:03,560 --> 02:25:04,960 council up to speed of where we are what 3250 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:07,560 we're working on and you know the 3251 02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:11,359 possibilities of how we can um achieve 3252 02:25:11,359 --> 02:25:15,479 the goals okay all right I'm good any 3253 02:25:15,479 --> 02:25:18,479 other questions comments thank you all 3254 02:25:18,479 --> 02:25:22,560 right so in that case I would ask for a 3255 02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:24,840 motion to go into executive session 3256 02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:27,560 second all in favor I for an executive 3257 02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:28,920 session and members of the public would 3258 02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:29,960 have to 3259 02:25:29,960 --> 02:25:32,960 leave