1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:54,320 [Music] 2 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,790 he 3 00:00:56,790 --> 00:02:38,070 [Music] 4 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,640 I'd like to call the or concy city 5 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:41,440 council committee meeting for Monday May 6 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 20th 2024 and the first committee is 7 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,360 Public Safety Mr Williams thank you so 8 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 I'd like to call the order Public Safety 9 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,040 we have one item on the agenda tonight 10 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,239 that is the lead of Women Voters super 11 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:54,239 recommendation 12 00:02:54,239 --> 00:02:58,120 May thank you Mr chairman the submitted 13 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,120 uh names the recommendation from uh Leal 14 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,760 woman voters ask for the favorable 15 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,599 consideration councel you any questions 16 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,400 or 17 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,720 comments move second all in favor I are 18 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,360 there any other items to call public sa 19 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 the committee any have motion toour so 20 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,519 move second all in 21 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:23,640 favor I would like to call the finance 22 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:25,599 committee to order and the first item is 23 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:28,280 the annual fee waiver for exterior 24 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,810 building repair 25 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:34,720 [Music] 26 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,159 from everyone should have received an 27 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:39,519 email from the last week with regards to 28 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:42,400 the the 2023 29 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,280 reports um this 30 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,200 year I'm looking to continue this 31 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,879 exterior perit waiver for the period of 32 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,840 June 1st to August 33 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,239 31st and there is 34 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:00,519 a there is a dve um 35 00:04:00,519 --> 00:04:02,840 letter and package to kind of identify 36 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,200 the same thing from the previous years 37 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,159 we just continue with the changing the 38 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:09,120 dates and and continue to carry this 39 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,040 program forward last year um we were 40 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,159 able to give back to our neighborhood 41 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,160 almost 42 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,880 $24,000 as incentive for encouraging 43 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,479 home owners to um pull permits which is 44 00:04:21,479 --> 00:04:23,240 very important make sure they pull the 45 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,120 permit get it inspected by the our court 46 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,639 enforcement offic so make sure they are 47 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:29,919 doing the correct thing and applying the 48 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:33,520 code evenly across so I'm looking um to 49 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,639 continue this program and to continue 50 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:38,199 our give back to our neighborhood as 51 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,440 they continue to revitalize the neighood 52 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,350 across the 53 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:42,639 [Music] 54 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:45,280 city open for 55 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,560 questions go ahead please uh so thank 56 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,479 you definitely sounds like a wonderful 57 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:52,600 opportunity to offer our our homeowners 58 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,160 or individuals wanting to like do this 59 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,160 type of work in their homes um based on 60 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,120 the conversation we're able to have and 61 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,639 definitely I like to see a 62 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:02,520 substantiating documentation on the back 63 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,720 end to speak to some of the added 64 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,280 benefits to our community uh as we seek 65 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,320 to have more budgetary conversations 66 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,080 throughout the year leading up to this 67 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,880 upcoming budget season I just want to 68 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 make sure at least I am being consistent 69 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,840 and evaluating all um opportunities 70 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,160 where we are trying to make a 71 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,039 concessions with our community just so 72 00:05:22,039 --> 00:05:23,479 we can speak to those in in further 73 00:05:23,479 --> 00:05:25,240 detail when the question is ultimately 74 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,840 asked how do we pass a uh successful 75 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:32,029 budget that the mayor will approve 76 00:05:32,039 --> 00:05:35,800 am questions go ahead please chairman 77 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,319 the wording 78 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:41,919 uh highlight have for the maximum permit 79 00:05:41,919 --> 00:05:44,120 value of 80 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,240 $35,000 that for the construction value 81 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,759 of 35,000 not the value 82 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:53,520 of permit fees no no no that's a 83 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,120 construction value so and this applies 84 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,000 to residential construction that is 85 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,199 that's correct yes on one to four unit 86 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,759 residential property one to four 87 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,800 units for bullet on the 88 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,479 bottom go ahead please I just um wanted 89 00:06:11,479 --> 00:06:13,400 to have you highlight I think that you 90 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,120 had told us how much it was that we 91 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,720 saved the residents last year it was 92 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,919 around yes I did mention that but I can 93 00:06:19,919 --> 00:06:23,360 pull that last year on the the regular 94 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,800 permit that's the application fee wave 95 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,599 was 96 00:06:27,599 --> 00:06:32,710 $4,280 for a total of 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,840 200 255 permits that was pulled within 98 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:41,070 that period of time that was weigh 99 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,520 $56 this back here and then the fencing 100 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 was U 24 permits Val 101 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,280 $1200 and Roofing $85 permits $8,500 102 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:52,759 totally 103 00:06:52,759 --> 00:06:54,680 $23,988 104 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,680 uh this is the largest um incentive give 105 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,319 back to our community is the highest 106 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,400 year last 107 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,400 year and um know there homeowners are 108 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,199 looking forward for this um some of us 109 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:10,199 might say it's U we're losing Revenue 110 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:11,639 but at the same time we're giving back 111 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:13,840 to our community we're buying in to them 112 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,440 re having the houses and at the same 113 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,720 time this is our incentive towards them 114 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,440 continue to pull the permit rather than 115 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,039 them working without permits on weekends 116 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:25,680 and evening and not pulling a permit by 117 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,560 allowing them to pull the permit W up 118 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,440 the fees and get the work done 119 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:37,670 that's for 120 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 required go ahead please sorry okay so 121 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,759 um Mr M usually four um it's usually one 122 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:44,479 to three there res four units don't they 123 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:47,840 become commercial a four unit 124 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,440 residence I I would not be able to 125 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,960 answer but this is the same uh 126 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,039 information that we had from the 127 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:54,800 beginning so we just carrying power here 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,680 to years so there's been a lot of 129 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,440 discussion lately about commercial 130 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,680 versus residential so I mean it's I 131 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,240 don't have a problem changing it to one 132 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,960 to three I mean this is something that 133 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,360 we've been carrying year to year so as 134 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,639 we revisit it we can make changes as we 135 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:12,000 go along so if there is 136 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 a an agreement to to change to one to 137 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,759 three 138 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:21,199 I that um so president pfield is right 139 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:22,360 so there's been a lot about you know 140 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,720 four units become like a commercial 141 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,319 trash versus residential trash but you 142 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:33,120 probably just check what with code and Zoning just to make 143 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,599 sure and then change it to three if need 144 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:39,029 be 145 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,360 or I mean we can I'm up to I mean 146 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,200 changing it the want to me that's um the 147 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,959 council's direction I'm okay with 148 00:08:49,959 --> 00:08:58,430 changing it 1 to three 1 to three okay 149 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,000 yeah so Mr M with this um it it it 150 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,640 increases the value of the home does 151 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,279 that also 152 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:08,839 increase assessment assessment on their 153 00:09:08,839 --> 00:09:12,640 property well at some stage if an 154 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,519 extension is done or A change is done on 155 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:16,800 the property while they're doing 156 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,760 construction yeah that will take an 157 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,200 assessment 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,079 increase that's what Mr MO is saying 159 00:09:23,079 --> 00:09:26,600 generally if it is a maintenance issue 160 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,640 it does not increase the value of the 161 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,079 property if it's an expansion 162 00:09:32,079 --> 00:09:34,839 or increase in the functionality of the 163 00:09:34,839 --> 00:09:38,000 property then the assessment would go 164 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,880 up go ahead please and then from our 165 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,160 conversation I don't know if I was 166 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,399 explicit in in this setting but I would 167 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:49,160 like to see um an account of how many uh 168 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,440 expansion efforts and then what was that 169 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,160 additional value added to our city just 170 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,480 so we can properly identify the full 171 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,880 impact of this program and then since it 172 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,079 has been year to year to here or it's 173 00:10:00,079 --> 00:10:02,040 been here since I've been on the council 174 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,360 I think an appropriate conversation 175 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,640 would then be um how do we evaluate 176 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,360 maybe streamline this into into the 177 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,519 budget if that's an opportunity but uh I 178 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:12,040 think looking at the permanency of this 179 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,519 and then are there other facets of uh 180 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:16,360 coding that we can evaluate for these 181 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 types of gains as well if that's what 182 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,949 the data 183 00:10:21,959 --> 00:10:25,360 reads go Mr M would this have already 184 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 then however been a part of our budget 185 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,920 planning for 202 186 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,040 for talk so that's something we can 187 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,600 consider to add this into the line as 188 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,320 a revenue reduction can I say give back 189 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,920 so we can account this in and out of the 190 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,760 budget on code's 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Department I 192 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,920 am we will have to engage the assessor 193 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:54,200 office to look at the the 255 plus 2485 194 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,120 cor to see which one triggers an 195 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,680 expansion or a 196 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,839 change that uh would ultimately U adjust 197 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:05,470 the assessment 198 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,680 value that is something I can reach out 199 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:10,200 to and and see if we can get that done 200 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,320 thank 201 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,120 you go ahead so timing wise though we'll 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,120 put this back um because we'd have to 203 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,040 come back to our next committee meeting 204 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,800 is that what you wanting us to do we are you because we're looking to have 205 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,120 this start on June 1st is that some 206 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,240 information you wanted to to kind of get 207 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,120 on hand and then look at it over into 208 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,399 next year so I would say since it would 209 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,000 appear that many residents in the city 210 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,240 have functioned with this understanding 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,079 already in mind I think delaying that 212 00:11:37,079 --> 00:11:38,959 especially you speak so confidently 213 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:40,240 about the program I'm not challenging 214 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,160 that I think for me I would like to ask 215 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,360 to kind of continue and then should we 216 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,000 identify any uh variations I I would 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,720 like to have the opportunity to kind of 218 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,839 readdress this at the council yes 219 00:11:50,839 --> 00:11:53,639 absolutely we u i I do have notes and 220 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:55,079 that we'll follow up and get those 221 00:11:55,079 --> 00:11:57,519 reports to all of us so will we have the 222 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,079 reports by um Friday are you saying 223 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:05,839 before we get to um not okay I been able to answer that 224 00:12:05,839 --> 00:12:09,120 control with staff availability I will 225 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,200 send out request to the May sh and ask 226 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,399 the staff 227 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:17,079 to to get that report for us 228 00:12:17,079 --> 00:12:19,279 okay I'm guessing it shouldn't be long 229 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:22,120 because the reports that reports appear 230 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,880 but it's just that they have to look at 231 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,920 the type of formats that was 232 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,870 pulled the type of work that was done 233 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,079 any other 234 00:12:33,079 --> 00:12:35,959 comments no but next week is May 28th I 235 00:12:35,959 --> 00:12:38,120 mean our our meeting is May 28 yes so 236 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,720 that's what we move forward with this 237 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,199 and we'll follow up with those reports 238 00:12:42,199 --> 00:12:44,720 and make sure you have them in hand so 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,680 in the future I would ask for that going 240 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,079 forward along with the permit report I 241 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:52,160 would ask for also the expansion or 242 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,880 anything of maor impact thank you I just 243 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,240 do have one other comment about putting 244 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,600 in the budget um I'm not so sure that we could do that and make it work 245 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,199 because in the budget we give a uh 246 00:13:05,199 --> 00:13:07,600 definite number like let's say 25,000 247 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,639 but if there are more people that take 248 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:10,760 advantage when we get to that $25,000 249 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,199 what happens then so we we want to keep 250 00:13:13,199 --> 00:13:15,399 in mind if we give a definitive number 251 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:17,360 then when we get there what happens to 252 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,959 the people that may go over I know that 253 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:20,320 it's not something we need to discuss 254 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,800 today because we're not in budget season 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,959 yet but coming close um then you know we 256 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:26,079 can talk about then so I just want to 257 00:13:26,079 --> 00:13:29,160 make sure that we consider that you know 258 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,920 we've made this work the normal 259 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,360 budgetary process would be is you have 260 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,920 to find some way to offset this 261 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,120 right 262 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,120 so I shouldn't say Rost 263 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,839 cost all right any other comments so but 264 00:13:44,839 --> 00:13:47,120 I understood Mr M to say that there's 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,320 been return on investment based has 266 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,759 there any has there been a return on 267 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,639 investment with this program what what 268 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:55,680 the coun what the city has waved has 269 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:58,639 there been an increase in um well that's 270 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:00,839 the report we going to look at we never 271 00:14:00,839 --> 00:14:02,519 looked at it nobody never has where 272 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:04,600 we're looking it as the incentive of 273 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,199 getting back 20 almost $24,000 so work 274 00:14:08,199 --> 00:14:11,480 was performed 255 permit regular permit 275 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,399 was pulled within that that given time 276 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:18,560 period last year plus the 24 plus the 85 277 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,199 permits within that 3 months 278 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:23,959 time so a lot of work was done during 279 00:14:23,959 --> 00:14:27,189 that that period of 280 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,440 time and then uh sorry 281 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,199 go ahead please and if I just lastly add 282 00:14:32,199 --> 00:14:33,639 definitely looking forward to planning 283 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:36,320 my uh um shadowing of the Cod Department 284 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,399 in the near future really excited about 285 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,600 that um but I would love to hear from 286 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,759 this department um there after this 287 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:45,639 season uh just to understand to get a 288 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:48,199 better indication of if there are any 289 00:14:48,199 --> 00:14:50,040 unforeseen hurdles or issues that they 290 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,000 notice when they're in but I always love 291 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,199 your information and sharing it with the 292 00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:57,639 table and and I just would like to add 293 00:14:57,639 --> 00:15:00,320 one other Mr M and since we have um new 294 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,480 uh person heading up the cod's 295 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,920 department I think it's make make sure 296 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,480 we get this information CU they're not 297 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,480 going to be familiar with it they 298 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,639 weren't here last year no I did have the 299 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:11,959 chief B request a meeting with him I met 300 00:15:11,959 --> 00:15:14,160 with him a couple weeks ago okay because 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,959 when I asked for the report he asked so 302 00:15:15,959 --> 00:15:17,759 he did submit a report and asked to have 303 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:19,639 a brief meeting so I high like the 304 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:22,040 program okay with him all right yes and 305 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,519 I walking through the detail of the 306 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:24,680 program so you get a better 307 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,680 understanding of this program that we 308 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,720 are running for the last several years 309 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,670 thank you 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,120 all right so the only change we're going 311 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,639 to have in this document here is that 312 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:37,199 the first bullet on the bottom section 313 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:39,240 is that residential property one to 314 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,350 three 315 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,839 units all right S have a motion to move 316 00:15:45,839 --> 00:15:53,800 I'll make the motion so move second all in favor I I thank you the 317 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,389 next 318 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:59,800 item is a swimming pool operat agreement 319 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,749 with boys and 320 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,440 Club you going do that me 321 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,399 to I don't Council has any question that 322 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:13,519 this is just a basic renewal of our 323 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:15,240 operating agreement with the poison 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,399 Girls Club to run the swimming 325 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:21,079 pools uh they have submitted a uh 326 00:16:21,079 --> 00:16:24,240 proposal just under 327 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,920 $200,000 uh it's 328 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,800 uh a little flexibility with Central 329 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,959 Park opening so playing around with what 330 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:37,360 those hours would be where might extend 331 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,360 them somewhat based on demand or 332 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,399 weather uh it's a good partnership and 333 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:46,480 relationship where they do the Staffing 334 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,839 for the lifeguards and related activity 335 00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:51,360 and uh again we're looking forward to 336 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,319 having Central Park pool open up and 337 00:16:55,319 --> 00:16:58,000 running question go ahead please so um 338 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,759 you said a little bit of FX ility would 339 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,399 made a change in the cost but maybe the 340 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:03,240 hours is the only thing the actual cost 341 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,000 I think went up a little bit in this 342 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,199 I'll give you the numbers from last year 343 00:17:08,199 --> 00:17:11,600 this this is up a few th000 from what we 344 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,319 paid last year but it reflects the 345 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,039 hourly rate for the 346 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:21,559 lifeguards okay M how many years have 347 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:23,880 the boys and girls been doing this go 348 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,319 ahead please goe sorry how many years 349 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:35,390 have Bo 350 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,559 been any other 351 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:41,520 comments second second all in favor any 352 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,720 other business for 353 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,200 finance we have a motion to 354 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,310 adour move second all in 355 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,000 favor 356 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,919 governments I would like to call to 357 00:17:53,919 --> 00:17:57,799 order government operation and for on to 358 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:59,760 request the authorization dep part 359 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:06,310 hydrochloric acid 2024 for the water 360 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,039 department I'll cover this uh so like it 361 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:10,320 say every year the water department 362 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,000 solists bid for hydrop forc acid for our 363 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,320 water wells um chemical is used in the 364 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,640 treatment of our Municipal Water um we 365 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,280 put it out the bid a low bid was 366 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,799 received from Univar Solutions and 367 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:27,320 $51,100 uh are Au recommending to 368 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,799 purchase the product from Universal 369 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:31,640 solutions for our Mr 370 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,880 water 371 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,159 questions seeing none I have a motion to 372 00:18:38,159 --> 00:18:44,200 move so Mo second all in favor I I thank 373 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,520 you any other business for government 374 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,559 operation motions for second all in 375 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,640 favor I I thank you thank you I'd like 376 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,120 to call the order City development and 377 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,240 planning uh we have 17 items on the 378 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,799 agenda the first item is the discussion 379 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:00,480 a possible agreement regarding pad bolts 380 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,280 in Central Park I don't see Mr lefon 381 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,520 present is there anyone that's supposed 382 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,080 to be taking this over for him if not no 383 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,640 I'll address it this is a proposal that 384 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,960 has come in to operate paddle boats in 385 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,080 the 386 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,440 uh cities connect to zise 387 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,520 plake uh really I'm recommending that we 388 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,919 entertain this I don't have a 389 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:31,679 be structured 390 00:19:31,679 --> 00:19:36,400 or uh look to charge people could be as 391 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,630 cheap as a few hundred might be 392 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,230 $1,000 the city council president gets a 393 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,799 discount uh to uh it's going back like 394 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:54,520 20 years ago we had paddle boats there 395 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,520 they went her to decline uh so this 396 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,799 would be a vendor coming in we would see 397 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,400 how it goes uh looking to get a little 398 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,120 revenue for the city but they would pick 399 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,000 up all the risk and assessment uh for 400 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,440 Staffing providing the equipment and uh 401 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,000 just managing the operation and so we'd 402 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,159 see how it is this year and then be able 403 00:20:15,159 --> 00:20:18,919 to have a more formal uh relationship 404 00:20:18,919 --> 00:20:21,510 next 405 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,320 year I do they because we have we just 406 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,240 have the lrs are they anticipating a 407 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,720 start time and we you know we'd like to 408 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,039 see the background information done the 409 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:32,120 company that they we look to get it 410 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:35,039 started as soon as possible sometime in 411 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:39,640 June running it through Labor Day uh and 412 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,200 again the question comes what's the 413 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,159 council think it's worth is it uh few 414 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:49,200 hundred $1,000 I don't think they're 415 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,720 going to participate if we set the 416 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,440 number too high and some of that 417 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,480 discussion could actually go into 418 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,840 executive session the council wants to 419 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,120 get 420 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,520 into the Min of 421 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,520 contract um what I'd like to see is 422 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,039 actually what they're offering you know 423 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:09,280 and all that without necessarily getting 424 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,559 to the price because that's going to 425 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,520 help us determine what the cost is going 426 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,400 to be so um I I have the woman's name 427 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,919 but not the name of the organization or 428 00:21:16,919 --> 00:21:18,960 anything so I think if in two weeks we 429 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,640 could at least hear more about what 430 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,520 they're offering the uh organization and 431 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,640 you know have they done this before and those kind of things okay 432 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,279 other questions if they had a package 433 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:34,400 together and as soon be the number of 434 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,960 votes the type of votes 435 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,080 this business plan would the council 436 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,880 consider it for unanimous consent on 437 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640 Monday M Patrick I I would I think it's 438 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,240 a great idea I you know heard many many 439 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,880 stories of um folks using the paddle 440 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,480 poats I think it would add yet another 441 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,520 you know feature to our beautiful 442 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,039 Central Park so um I definitely would be 443 00:21:58,039 --> 00:21:59,559 in favor of but I'm hoping we'll bring 444 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:04,360 in $24,000 in Revenue um that was a Mr 445 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,200 mud that was 446 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,760 sorry I know you were coming but in any 447 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159 case I I I think it would be a great a 448 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:13,799 great I'm not sure we can get it 449 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:16,080 together if we 450 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,360 could um get your hands up click in your 451 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,559 pen um I I really can't commit to you 452 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,080 set till I see the background I just 453 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,559 they want to make a promise and read 454 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:29,279 something and I like H so oh I did have 455 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,039 one more question Patrick so the other 456 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,159 thing I though uh question that I had 457 00:22:33,159 --> 00:22:35,360 was um whether they would be also 458 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,679 responsible for taking reservations for 459 00:22:37,679 --> 00:22:39,799 how that would handle be handled in 460 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:43,120 terms of you know not putting something 461 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,960 they're assum they're assuming the whole 462 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,679 responsibility for it 463 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:51,799 so yes Mr um so uh I know it was Tuesday 464 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,360 or Wednesday at the golf course I saw 465 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,320 arpad of bolts in the they're back there 466 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,720 by the by the sheds and I got thinking 467 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,919 of how much fun they were um when my 468 00:23:00,919 --> 00:23:02,279 girls were little we'd always take the 469 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:04,400 paddle boats out Tuesday in the park the 470 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,799 fireworks so and there there were there 471 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,320 were constantly people on on the pond on 472 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,400 aoy Lake yeah with paddle boats I think 473 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,640 it's a good thing and without any 474 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,679 obligation or cost to us so I do in 475 00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:18,000 favor of whatever you could put for and 476 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 if not to cast any aspersions over it 477 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,760 but if the council did consider it by an 478 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,240 animous consent Monday night they would 479 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,200 probably extend that discount for the 480 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,880 rides that's granted the council 481 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,480 president all the 482 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,400 council this is getting better not 483 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:41,029 taking any discounts I'll be in the 484 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,559 paper yeah I don't have a problem I mean 485 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:45,159 getting all the documents some this to 486 00:23:45,159 --> 00:23:48,080 un consent part let me see if we can get 487 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,080 a package together it's or now it's 488 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,039 conceptual it sounds good 489 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:55,120 but we all know the devils in the 490 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,200 details and we have another council 491 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,200 member who's not here so that would mean 492 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,039 that everybody be up to be on board so 493 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:04,080 the sooner the better I know Mr um lefon 494 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,400 said he just kind of like there wasn't a 495 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 real they just approached them there was 496 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,720 nothing really hammered out yet so it 497 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,720 wouldn't matter to 498 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,960 me and we can consider for youit content 499 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,559 if we get all the 500 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,990 documentation 501 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399 great okay uh the next item oh excuse me 502 00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:28,720 item yeah item two to the award been in 503 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,240 contact with this connected police 504 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,880 locker and toilet room Renovations Mr 505 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,360 Wallen uh last session I came to you 506 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,799 with the award of three contracts for 507 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:40,640 the renovations sity police toilet and 508 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,840 locker room uh they were the mechanical 509 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,000 the electrical and the um General we did 510 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760 not have a plumbing at the time as we 511 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,279 did not have anyone um put in actually 512 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:52,399 we had a plumbing not a mechanical so we 513 00:24:52,399 --> 00:24:54,320 had to rebid the mechanical portion of 514 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,799 it fourth uh we did reach out to some 515 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,000 firms we did get uh a bid on it from eer 516 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,559 mechanical uh e mechanical um they seem 517 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:05,000 to be aggressively pursuing working in 518 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,919 the city they were also N Low on our 519 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:10,399 fire station and hbac maintenance 520 00:25:10,399 --> 00:25:13,600 contracts so uh they have an idea of the 521 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320 buildings and um we're comfortable 522 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,720 moving forward with it and this would be 523 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,279 our fourth contractor so that we can 524 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,200 move forward with the project as a whole 525 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,039 questions or comments entertain a motion 526 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,600 so second all those in favor thank you 527 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,279 item number three is being closed at the 528 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,960 request of Mr Wallen item number four to 529 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080 authorize the issuance of vote permit 530 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,559 number 683 to MTX group yep uh we've 531 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,679 seen this one before um but working with 532 00:25:40,679 --> 00:25:42,120 the law Department we discovered some 533 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,559 discrepancies but we want to make sure 534 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:45,640 is going forward that the applicant's 535 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,720 information is on the permanent not the 536 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159 um installer of the sign so we went back 537 00:25:51,159 --> 00:25:53,240 and we clarified that and we had them 538 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,200 add it we also had them uh add an email 539 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,120 that the certificate owner for the 540 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,559 insurance is going to be the property 541 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,720 owner which is uh scoa Holdings so now 542 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,600 that we have that documented we'd like 543 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,760 to um officially um issue the 544 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,039 revocable this is we didn't issue the 545 00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:14,760 revocable correct Maxi before so this is 546 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,200 now the official issuance of it we'll 547 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,399 just act like we 548 00:26:18,399 --> 00:26:22,559 never for 683 683 wasn't issue before 549 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,240 correct so we're going to move forward 550 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,360 now this is the insurance okay questions 551 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:32,200 or comments and a motion second all in 552 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,120 favor all right uh item number five the 553 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,159 issue authorization of issuance of a 554 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:39,880 vocable commit 684 to Maverick Quantum 555 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Inc so uh same building simar shine same 556 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Insurance holder different um company in 557 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,039 the building and same thing we had them 558 00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,440 uh reapply for the correct applicant 559 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,000 information and signature of the 560 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,960 applicant not signature of the sign 561 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,600 company and that would be the standard 562 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,480 going forward when we do with vocables 563 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320 to make sure that um usually it's like 564 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,200 an AJ sign they're very familiar we work 565 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,720 with them and they'll fill it out on 566 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,200 behalf but we would like to now see the 567 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,000 applicate signature and the applicant's 568 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,240 information and not do it as on behalf 569 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,840 of Mak sense questions or comments out a 570 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240 motion so second all those in 571 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,320 favor thank you very 572 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,919 much uh item number six is discussion 573 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:27,240 seeker and Planning Commission 574 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,799 recommendation regarding the addition of 575 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,120 Section 576 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,520 26411 3 of connected city code regarding 577 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,039 the regulation and location of smoke 578 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,279 shops vape shops hook and VAP 579 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,120 consumption businesses there was a 580 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,960 public hearing that was held on April 581 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,110 22nd 2024 Mr 582 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,799 barage um yeah I'll take 583 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:51,679 this President um I think Jack Conelly 584 00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:54,240 from the planning department is here as 585 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,039 well um as you know this was the public 586 00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,679 hearing was held about a month ago um 587 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,240 it's part of the legislative process 588 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 we've been staff has been looking at the 589 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,519 proposed uh ordinance and uh has some 590 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,159 changes that need to be you know need 591 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:12,880 recommending to the proposed ordinance 592 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000 and also giving you a way ahead here as 593 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,200 far as the 594 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,600 process um if as U Mr cin would go 595 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,200 through it in just a moment regarding 596 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760 the the changes to the proposed 597 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,880 ordinance but since we're amending the zoning code this this needs to be 598 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,799 referred up to the County Planning 599 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:36,360 Department so if the changes as uh 600 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,760 discussed if there's changes to it then 601 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,760 the final draft you can transmit up to 602 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,440 the county on Monday via a resolution 603 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,919 saying that the proposed Vape ordinance 604 00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:51,080 is attached for County's review and 605 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,760 pursuing to the state of law they have 606 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120 30 days in which to do the 607 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,799 review because as you all know the the 608 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,159 more a atorium is coming up and expiring 609 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:02,960 in June pursuing to that then we need to 610 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,279 do a public hearing um prior to the 611 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:09,519 extension of that for another uh 3 612 00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:14,440 months so um I would recommend that the 613 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,559 council pass a uh resolution calling for 614 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,640 a public hearing on for next week for 615 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,519 the 10th if it's necessary to extend 616 00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:25,559 that 617 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,519 moratorium obviously it depends on what 618 00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:30,720 you all do here tonight as far as 619 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,799 changing you know the the draft and then 620 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:35,480 subject to the County Planning 621 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,679 Department's review and 622 00:29:38,679 --> 00:29:42,320 recommendations so that's the process 623 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,559 the big picture and Mr con will go 624 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,679 through some of the uh Provisions that 625 00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:50,080 uh staff has been going through so the 626 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,799 first provision is pretty brief um in 627 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:54,480 section B location uh the only thing 628 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480 that need to Chang is are to is not 629 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,399 included as one of the Z districts that 630 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:00,200 these will be prohibited in all the 631 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,679 other residential districts as long as 632 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:04,080 C1 2 3 and the I districts were included 633 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,799 C1 area R2 was just an oversight that 634 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:09,480 was not included um obviously I'm sure 635 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,760 we can all agree we'd like to see that 636 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,279 in there um the second ones the rest of 637 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,080 them are a little bit bigger we want to 638 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200 change some of the radiuses um and I can 639 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,440 go through why we want to do that as 640 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,000 well um so in the next section c 641 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 restriction on location of H vate BR 642 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,039 smoke Andor vape shops um we decided to 643 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,559 take out paragraph 1 um in regards to 644 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:36,480 the radius regarding um residential uses 645 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,000 uh originally there was a th000 ft 646 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,120 radius in any residental in any 647 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 industrial Zone that was near uh within 648 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,480 1,000 ft of a residential district the 649 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,360 reason we decided to get rid of that is 650 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,919 because the majority of our uh 651 00:30:48,919 --> 00:30:50,360 industrial districts are very small to 652 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480 begin with um and pretty much all of 653 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,600 them have hes that are within 1,000 ft 654 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,559 of residential districts so I I pulled 655 00:30:58,559 --> 00:30:59,480 the data 656 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600 earlier uh M1 and M2 districts which is 657 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,799 which are our industrial manufacturing 658 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,440 districts are only about 11% of the of 659 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840 the area of the city um to begin with 660 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840 and the vast majority of those Parcels 661 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,279 that lie within those districts are 662 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,760 within the you know within the radius of 663 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,399 the residential so we'd effectively be 664 00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:20,240 banning them from nearly all of the 665 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,240 industrial districts regard uh If This 666 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,519 Were to be enacted um given the fact 667 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,360 that the industrial is obviously very 668 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,480 clear and separate from the residential 669 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,159 um we didn't see that as necessary the 670 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:33,519 other reasons why we didn't see it as 671 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,760 necessary go with the next two items um 672 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,480 first of all there's going to be we 673 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,360 wanted to keep up the 1000 ft radius 674 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120 with similar uses meaning if there's a 675 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320 one smoke shop in that region that you 676 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,480 can't have another one within 1,000 ft 677 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,720 therefore if you have one in an M1 678 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840 District unless things are very 679 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,120 perfectly situated which you're not 680 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,120 going to have a second in that 681 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,679 Industrial distri 682 00:31:58,679 --> 00:32:01,279 um meaning there's only going to be one 683 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,080 per District close to Res relatively 684 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,279 close to residential I should say it's 685 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,159 not even going to be near residential um 686 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:09,559 but because of that we're going to 687 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,080 severely decrease the amount the density 688 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,919 of the smoke shops um there the last 689 00:32:14,919 --> 00:32:17,320 thing in number 690 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,000 three um we wanted to switch it from 691 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,960 2,000 ft to 750 ft away from schools the 692 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,440 reason for that is again similar to what 693 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,320 I was saying before these are already 694 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,159 being 695 00:32:31,159 --> 00:32:34,360 severely limited um 2,000 ft from as 696 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,679 it's currently listed right now would 697 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:41,039 effectively REM limit it completely um 698 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:43,120 and and it would effectively make it so 699 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,200 you cannot open one of these shops which 700 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,120 I understand is part of the purpose of 701 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,559 the moratorium however you know we need 702 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,279 to allow for some uses of it we can't 703 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,799 outright ban it completely um so the 704 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,679 goal was to get a 750 ft away from 705 00:32:56,679 --> 00:32:58,919 schools um most of which are already 706 00:32:58,919 --> 00:33:00,600 located in residential districts that 707 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,880 wouldn't 708 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,639 have any any use for this anyway there 709 00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:06,360 are a few schools that I have listed 710 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,720 that that would be affected and that 711 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,799 would take that would uh eliminate some 712 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,039 of those business and Industrial 713 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,760 districts from uh consideration but for 714 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600 the most part it would stay relatively 715 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,480 similar to how it is um again the 716 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,760 purposes written as it is um with the changes that I just detailed we 717 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,799 would still be severely limiting the the 718 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,279 smoke shops um but it would make it a 719 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,600 bit more accessible for them with that 720 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,799 was still making it completely uh 721 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:35,960 restricted for for our 722 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,159 purposes and just to follow on on Mr K's 723 00:33:39,159 --> 00:33:42,919 comments uh regarding section two 724 00:33:42,919 --> 00:33:45,639 currently section two there would 725 00:33:45,639 --> 00:33:48,519 be a minor tweak there where would say 726 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,600 uh legal hookah lounge uh smoke shot and 727 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,559 vape lounge that's just added just to 728 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:55,639 make it 729 00:33:55,639 --> 00:33:58,639 consistent and excuse me were you adding 730 00:33:58,639 --> 00:34:01,440 that language it would be under two it 731 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,880 would be such legal Hooks and and vape 732 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,280 bounds in the original draft the smoke 733 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,359 shop was was deleted but was was not was 734 00:34:12,359 --> 00:34:14,000 omitted and should have been in there so 735 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,919 that's just a corrective action okay and 736 00:34:16,919 --> 00:34:20,560 then uh Madam president as you know the 737 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,399 council also got a a memo from the uh 738 00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:25,960 from the Planning Commission regarding 739 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,760 uh this um while they didn't indicates 740 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,919 a a uh a uh specific percentage of the 741 00:34:34,919 --> 00:34:37,440 floor area of a smoke shop Vape Shop 742 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,919 hooker Lounge um they did indicate that 743 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:47,119 it would be something some less than 40% 744 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:53,879 which the current draft has and just uh some localities have gone down as far 745 00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:54,720 as 746 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:59,599 25% so I'm just giving you a range 25 to 747 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,560 propos was was take ordinance that 748 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,400 language was taken from the Town of 749 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,079 Babylon so other localities have G to 750 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,839 25 so just giving the council a range of 751 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:13,880 uh 752 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,839 numbers um so you were there with a 753 00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:17,480 planning meeting do you want to talk 754 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,119 about that please uh effectively what 755 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:20,800 they said is they wanted to they thought 756 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,040 40% was too large of an area um because 757 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 you can their their main concern is you 758 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,000 could have 30 8% of the floor area be 759 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,599 dedicated to smoking materials and then 760 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:32,680 the rest just be filled with they call 761 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,839 it fluff items um so technically it's 762 00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:37,640 not 40% of the floor area that's that's 763 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,520 we smoking um and they can be legally 764 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,839 operating but it would effectively be 765 00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:42,640 operating as a smoke shop so that's why 766 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,760 they wanted that threshold uh lowered as Mr BR said they don't have a specific 767 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,880 number they wanted it something closer 768 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,880 to how a sparts operates um with you 769 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,200 know smoking products in the back and 770 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,880 speaking with uh Christine perano 771 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,280 upstairs we thought I mean clearly 772 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,960 stewards is not a smoke shop um so we 773 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040 wanted it a bit more than that 25% in 774 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520 our estimation seemed like a fair number 775 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,640 um as Mr BR said we got that was similar 776 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,829 to other municipalities in the 777 00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:18,160 area so um my my only concern with that 778 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,079 is that smoke shops that's all they have 779 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,440 is so um it's not like STS where they 780 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,800 have ice cream and cigarettes smoke 781 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,280 shops that's that's all they have so 782 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,599 um I'm not sure if we I'm not saying 783 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,520 that we shouldn't lower it I just don't 784 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,240 want to make it so restrictive that 785 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:36,680 there we're essentially trying to tell 786 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,760 them they just can't have their products 787 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,599 um advertised not I don't both CHS but I 788 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,200 think we need to be fair and how we U 789 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,880 put this legislation together I think 790 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,599 that's fair yeah they uh the reason they 791 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,000 brought it up is there was a uh was a 792 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960 convenience store opening up and when 793 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,200 they found out that it could be up to 794 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,119 40% they found that it would they were 795 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:56,880 effectively going to operate as a smoke 796 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,440 shop based on the conversation that was 797 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,760 had in the Planning Commission meeting 798 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000 with with that applicant um so that 799 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,069 that's what spurred their 800 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,680 recommendation yes Mr Tor I did notice 801 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,760 one um convenience store that that did 802 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,400 um advertise as a smoke shop on half of 803 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,040 the store that smoke shop sign came down 804 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,880 so um I know there's been some um 805 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,240 enforcement out there as well so and it wasn't on our list of even legal 806 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,800 smoke shops so yeah off officers put a 807 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,040 lot of effort into restricting the 808 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,960 sence Mr WS so I had one question 809 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,280 and just not really sitting that well 810 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,079 with me in the section c uh 811 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,800 reducing the uh the the property around 812 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,200 schools from 813 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,599 2750 as you as you mentioned just 814 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,359 referencing just the intent with which 815 00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:53,680 this was presented to the to the council 816 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,079 in 2008 says this ordinance this 817 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,480 ordinance is an athet regul land use and 818 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,880 to protect health and safety and the 819 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,800 welfare of our community pursuant can 820 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000 you just speak to the reasoning behind a 821 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,720 identifying 2,000 as an appropriate 822 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,119 measure and I understood what you 823 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,079 speaking towards of reducing that to 750 824 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:12,400 so you're saying why was 2,000 825 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,800 originally considered 2000 was that was 826 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,880 the model that we used that was out of 827 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,240 the Town of Babylon that's where the 828 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,599 figure 2000 came from so upon further 829 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,400 review that's where we're we're looking 830 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319 at now taking that those feet and 831 00:38:26,319 --> 00:38:28,160 looking at the zoning map and where 832 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,599 these location where these these shops 833 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,960 are going to go and then regarding the 834 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,040 750 you Al that that would really just 835 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,680 affect the the commercial districts in 836 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,560 C4 and C5 is that pretty much there so I 837 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,760 went through all the schools in the city 838 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040 um there are a couple that come within 839 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,880 750 ft of this as I said most schools 840 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,240 wouldn't be affected by this anyway 841 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:54,800 because they're in primarily residential 842 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,520 districts there would be a few schools 843 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,599 that earn that 7 50 foot buffer um 844 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:01,880 effectively what it would be looking 845 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680 like is this a majority of our 846 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,720 industrial districts which I said after 847 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,280 these things are about 10% of our our 848 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,319 city would be able to have smoke shops 849 00:39:10,319 --> 00:39:12,119 as as a freight if they have one there 850 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,079 can't be another within 1,000 ft M it 851 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,480 would be severely limiting there C4 and 852 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,319 C5 which is downtown in our business 853 00:39:18,319 --> 00:39:20,720 districts it would be special use permit 854 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:21,960 again with the same rules applying with 855 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,359 1,000 ft um what that allows the 856 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:26,520 Planning Commission to do is have a lot 857 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200 more leeway over what's allowed so even 858 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,800 though you might come into issues where 859 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,480 you know it's near residential areas 860 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280 that are technically C4 um the Planning 861 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,200 Commission has the authority to view 862 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,440 that as a whole and take that into 863 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,000 consideration when passing approvals and 864 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,319 just okay would you be able to provide 865 00:39:45,319 --> 00:39:46,760 us a listing of those schools that might 866 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,680 potentially be affected absolutely thank 867 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,760 you and just following on Mr K's remark 868 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,839 regarding the special use permit um the 869 00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:57,440 uh section 2649 870 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560 9 subb of of the code says the proposed 871 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,560 building that would be the Vape chop or 872 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,760 use will not have a substantial undo 873 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160 adverse effecta on adjacent property the 874 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000 character of the neighborhood traffic 875 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,400 conditions parking uh utility facilities 876 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,880 and other matters affecting public 877 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,119 health safety and general welfare so 878 00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:20,800 those even though you're decreasing that 879 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,760 as far as the special use permit the 880 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,200 Planning Commission has to factor those 881 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,359 uh uh items into their decision and just 882 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:33,720 as a sort of a a standpoint right now I did the analysis for this obviously 883 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:34,880 this building would never be a smoke 884 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,880 shop let's hope um but a 500t radius 885 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,319 from here would take you down to 886 00:40:39,319 --> 00:40:41,240 Broadway to Union Street and State 887 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,960 Street so in 1,000ft radius would you 888 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,319 know be twice that size so so having one 889 00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:48,240 smoke shop there is going to severely 890 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:49,760 impact the rest of that neighborhood and 891 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,349 make it clear if any 892 00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:56,680 others did you have hand up um that was 893 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920 good clarified point I I mean I was 894 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,880 questioning the 750 as well and how we 895 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,280 got to that lower number from 2000 so 896 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,720 and also wasn't sure why you know we 897 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,960 just didn't say a thousand since we were 898 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440 you know using a thousand as the marker 899 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,640 in the other in in the other bullet um 900 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,160 but cuz I mean my concern is having them 901 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,079 close to schools we don't want them 902 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,200 close to schools um 903 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,480 so you know but sounds like that's a 904 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,119 good enough distance 905 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:29,720 we felt as if it was we spent a lot of 906 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,200 time talking about it um 750 we thought 907 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,960 was a was a fair number um and like I 908 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,200 said I looked at all the schools the the 909 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,640 ones that would be affected are still 910 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,520 going to be you know a decent amount 911 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,960 away from the industrial districts and 912 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160 again that's only also if things are 913 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,839 perfectly placed to be as close as 914 00:41:46,839 --> 00:41:48,760 possible if there's one on the farther 915 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,240 end of the industrial district that's 916 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,079 closer to a th000 or more feet away from 917 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:53,839 the school that's going to make it so 918 00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:54,960 there's nothing else that can get even 919 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,550 remotely close 920 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,800 so these are for the um like people that 921 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,359 are goinging to be applying so for the 922 00:42:04,359 --> 00:42:07,760 existing VAP the existing legal vape and 923 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,880 smoke shops um these those will be taken 924 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,280 into account when you when somebody else 925 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,480 is trying to locate so those would take 926 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,400 into account let me pull up or something 927 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,520 it's 928 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,920 on section one 929 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,319 um those businesses according to this 930 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:26,640 legislation would be would cease to 931 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,240 exist after 1 year um of the city 932 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,440 council adopting the legislation now if 933 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,720 they are in an industrial district 934 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,160 already they can apply for site plan 935 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,079 approval again if they are in a c4 C5 936 00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:40,280 District they can apply for a special 937 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,440 use permit um if they are in another 938 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,400 District as I I know one of the main 939 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,920 problem areas is Upper Union Street 940 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,400 which is C2 they could apply for a use 941 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,520 variant um which at the last page 942 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,200 details that it could be granted if they 943 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,920 showed that they have not received 944 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,920 Financial 945 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400 you know the proper financial 946 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,319 repercussions for opening the business 947 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:04,119 in the first place and the use variants 948 00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,880 would only be good until they get their 949 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,680 finances in order once they you know get 950 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,359 a return on their investment then the 951 00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:13,599 business would cease to exist again and 952 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,280 could not reopen again unless there was 953 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,520 a used variance granted which would be 954 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,589 unlikely 955 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,040 mhm I I don't know telling people 956 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,000 they're going to do their business in 957 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,240 the year I'm not sure that 958 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,520 [Music] 959 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680 I'm not 100% but they they would have 960 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,359 the ability to go before the zoning 961 00:43:32,359 --> 00:43:34,160 board of appeals and make their case as 962 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,040 to why they should stay you know 963 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:44,480 additional because of huiz of their costs so the idea is to 964 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,760 um to allow the business 965 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,079 to recoup their Investments past that 966 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,480 onee deadline and this wasn't anything 967 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,200 that changed from the last time it was 968 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,280 here either that something the in the in 969 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,230 the original 970 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:06,960 draft 971 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,240 Yeah do do we know how many existing 972 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,079 shops that will impact I don't have a 973 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,960 number for 974 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:23,390 you that would be 975 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,240 important would you be able to provide 976 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,640 us with that information I could provide 977 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,720 you with rough with a rough number at I 978 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,200 you know getting an exact one would be 979 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,730 near possible we could look 980 00:44:34,740 --> 00:44:37,680 [Music] 981 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,319 it Adam president just for you know as 982 00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:42,040 followup from my earlier comments just 983 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,680 for you know the way 984 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,720 ahead if um based on Mr Conley's 985 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,640 comments and the other comments uh if 986 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,720 you want to move forward with this you 987 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,359 could amend it as we've just discussed 988 00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:00,559 mhm um and we'll put it on the agenda 989 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:05,160 for Monday and that will have a cover 990 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,079 resolution for transmitt up to the 991 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:09,839 County Planning Department for their 992 00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:13,160 comment and review and then subject to 993 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,800 their comments then uh it would it would 994 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,040 come back before the council for for for 995 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,000 final action or any any other amendments 996 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,119 based on the there there be an 997 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,800 opportunity to amend after we find 998 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,599 oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah and uh so if but 999 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:34,880 I would I think what we're looking to do 1000 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,200 is move move this forward so the county 1001 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,720 has something to look at from us a final 1002 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,720 draft if you will and then and then uh 1003 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,920 have that process move forward and as I 1004 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920 indicated earlier also have a resolution 1005 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200 calling for a public hearing extending M 1006 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,880 moratorium has that June 10th today so 1007 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,480 we're keeping everything along okay so 1008 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,440 that so I just have one other I have one 1009 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,319 other question under item c number uh 1010 00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:06,559 number four where the about the window 1011 00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,480 coverage of the 20% and all those so are 1012 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,760 these are these numbers according to the 1013 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,400 um I know there's some sep head gu 1014 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,559 guidelines these These are actually out 1015 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,680 of the the signage wage you see there is 1016 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,680 out of the city of 1017 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,119 Buffalo's uh ordinance dealing with Vape 1018 00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,680 Shops and and and the uh so that's where 1019 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,880 that leg that's where those numbers can 1020 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,680 and 20% is in our city code for all 1021 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,200 businesses it is for bus for all 1022 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,559 businesses so that's it's restating 1023 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:36,920 what's already was already okay I'm that 1024 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,440 is part of the 1025 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,680 subra just want to make sure we're kind 1026 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,559 of be 1027 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,559 consistent okay mad president sir mayor 1028 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,440 just I referen Monday and Mr O'Brien 1029 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,069 reference Monday it's actually 1030 00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:54,839 Tuesday not that we don't all look 1031 00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:56,160 forward to getting together on Monday 1032 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,720 and Tuesday 1033 00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:58,839 on 1034 00:46:58,839 --> 00:47:03,040 Tuesday absolutely so m p um I mean I 1035 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,559 would like to move this forward so that 1036 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:07,400 it can go to the county however um I 1037 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,920 think the uh 25% piece needs to be 1038 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,240 discussed um the recommendation of the 1039 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:16,240 planing commission for 1040 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:21,710 Section section 1041 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:23,920 two 1042 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,079 a 22 a yeah yeah under the uh definition 1043 00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,760 section of uh the substantial or 1044 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,400 significant portion that goes through 1045 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:40,359 it's a b c and d uh the 40% came from 1046 00:47:40,359 --> 00:47:44,680 the kind of babylon's code um other as 1047 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,240 Mr Colin said in in my Research 1048 00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:49,319 indicates other locations have gone down 1049 00:47:49,319 --> 00:47:50,119 to 1050 00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,760 25% so that gives you a range that gives 1051 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,000 the council a range to to work from MH 1052 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,839 you can keep it at 40 or you can go down 1053 00:47:58,839 --> 00:48:01,480 to 25 or anything in between I mean it's 1054 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,359 really up to you you feel comfortable 1055 00:48:04,359 --> 00:48:07,160 with it's just there's other as you in 1056 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,359 that portion there other factors you 1057 00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:10,480 know how they 1058 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,839 Define or described the operation of the 1059 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:17,240 business so this is just 1060 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:21,440 really narrowing and further so the um 1061 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,359 Planning Commission recommends we lower 1062 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,160 it just hasn't hasn't given a 1063 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,640 recommendation as to what we lower too 1064 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,280 they didn't give a specific number they 1065 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,920 didn't have specific numbers on hand and 1066 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920 didn't want to throw stuff around 1067 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,109 willy-nilly without you 1068 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,000 knower 1069 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,690 um discussion 1070 00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:45,040 [Music] 1071 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,400 Council and again we're you know this we 1072 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,319 can send this to the county and if then 1073 00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:51,160 we want to have more discussion or amend 1074 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,079 it um maybe have some conversations with 1075 00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,119 the Planning Commission in terms of what 1076 00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:57,640 they're thinking because the memo that 1077 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,480 they said doesn't really give a lot of 1078 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,520 detail right okay so um have that 1079 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,119 discussion and we could possibly change 1080 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,319 it then or leave it as 1081 00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:13,440 is I mean if it's council's wish they you can put it up you can move it 1082 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,599 forward with 40% then change it again 1083 00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:19,200 change it if you wish at you know when 1084 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,920 you read get the comments from the from 1085 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,559 the county were were amended in the 1086 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,559 final Amendment form lower 1087 00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,079 mayor and the reality in these type of 1088 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:31,559 things are you're going to get people 1089 00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:33,359 whatever number you pick and they're 1090 00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:35,880 going to be compliant there's also going 1091 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,440 to be other people who will 1092 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,960 be uh crafty clever 1093 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920 uh interesting in their design of their 1094 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,559 floor space you know what's common area 1095 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,640 what's a walkway what's 1096 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,319 actual retail and so the wording there 1097 00:49:55,319 --> 00:49:56,960 howy have something has some kind of 1098 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,440 sense that's enforceable and that we 1099 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,870 want to be able to just manage it going 1100 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:10,309 [Music] 1101 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:15,599 forward anyone else okay um I mean I I I 1102 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,079 think reducing it is the way to go just 1103 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:19,559 based on everything we've been hearing 1104 00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,920 from for example the 1105 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,829 um New York State toac Council 1106 00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:31,119 if the council chose a low 1107 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,119 number is there a process where somebody 1108 00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,160 go to the zoning board of appeals or do 1109 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,160 something where they had some unique set 1110 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,839 of circumstances where they would then 1111 00:50:40,839 --> 00:50:42,040 have to 1112 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,000 justify having additional space no no 1113 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,960 it's it's it's it's it's from an 1114 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,359 enforcement point of view as far as 1115 00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:53,480 what's your floor space what you got in 1116 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,200 there as your inventory and product for 1117 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,760 sale and it's way for the the zoning 1118 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,680 inspector or the code enforcement person 1119 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,079 to take a look make a make an assessment 1120 00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,119 on the floor space inventory what's this 1121 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:06,280 business all 1122 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,040 about 1123 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,200 and um 1124 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,920 40% substantial or significant it's 25% 1125 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,920 you know 25% is 1126 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,520 that significant or 1127 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,640 substantial um like I said some 1128 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,240 localities have gone down to 25% so 1129 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,000 um 1130 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,319 it's there's other factors that they 1131 00:51:33,319 --> 00:51:37,200 consider revenues dered advertising Etc 1132 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,040 that that an inspector can can use but 1133 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,280 it's just further defining the the the 1134 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,200 uh the uh enforcement mechanism of 1135 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,359 what's what's in that particular 1136 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:54,880 store Mr Toro um having visited several 1137 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,480 of them I mean it's the same they have 1138 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,319 the same product store after store after 1139 00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:03,160 store I would say more than 40% of their 1140 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,000 floor is dedicated to vape and smoka and 1141 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,160 paraphernalia and things like that so um 1142 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,040 40 and I mean 40 would I think a lot of 1143 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,119 the stores I've been in would reduce 1144 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,240 their inventory as it is now uh 25% 1145 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:24,040 would even reduce it further um so again 1146 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,680 I'd like to hear what um you know what 1147 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,640 the Planning Commission recommends I can 1148 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,119 see lowering it a little bit but the I 1149 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,720 think the 25% would really limit what 1150 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,559 they have in their shop and if we're 1151 00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,720 allowing their shops to be there then 1152 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,240 they should at least be able to kind of 1153 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,160 sell what they have I guess I 40% was a 1154 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,160 number originally that was agreed upon 1155 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,359 between the department of development 1156 00:52:46,359 --> 00:52:48,559 and the law office so that that was a 1157 00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:49,960 number that we took from a couple 1158 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,160 different spots and and looked at um the 1159 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,359 Planning Commission just agreed 1160 00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:59,400 so um I think we can move this forward 1161 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,720 but we'd have to I still would like to 1162 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,200 hear from the Planning Commission what 1163 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,799 their um rationale was for that and we 1164 00:53:04,799 --> 00:53:07,160 could get that before um before it's 1165 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440 time to actually um within 30 days that 1166 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,160 the council that the county would have 1167 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,319 to send it back um I have to agree with 1168 00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:16,280 mror I think that we don't want to limit 1169 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,839 it really too much so we're just 1170 00:53:18,839 --> 00:53:19,960 basically not giving people an 1171 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,240 opportunity to run their business Mr you 1172 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,000 suggested moving forward in 1173 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,040 40% but that and amend it when we 1174 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,480 receive the recommendation from the 1175 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,079 county 1176 00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:34,920 exactly I'm good with that and okay also 1177 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,480 Mr umbrian you want us to also move 1178 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,040 ahead with the to call for a public 1179 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,599 hearing for the extension of the more 1180 00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,520 20 so first should we U Move This 1181 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,839 forward to the count do we have to move 1182 00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,680 this in a resolution to the county with 1183 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,760 but and then do a second resolution um Madam president just so 1184 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,640 I'm I'm tracking the changes here so 1185 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200 we're all on the same page so for 1186 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,799 location we're adding uh R2 that's corrective action residential 1187 00:54:06,799 --> 00:54:07,720 area 1188 00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:12,160 R2 we're deleting in the section calling 1189 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,240 for restrictions on location of hookah 1190 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:18,920 lounges Vape lounges Etc we're deleting 1191 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,200 one SE paragraph two would then become 1192 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319 paragraph one and paragraph three would 1193 00:54:25,319 --> 00:54:28,240 become paragraph two with the location 1194 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,480 change to 1195 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,880 750 750 1196 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,920 ft and that you would remain at this 1197 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,160 point 40% regarding the definition 1198 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,599 portions that substantial or significant 1199 00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,960 portion is that is that 1200 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,799 correct you would leave that at 40% at 1201 00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:51,240 this point but this is so I'll amend as 1202 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:54,839 discussed and then um and then prepare 1203 00:54:54,839 --> 00:54:56,960 the resolution as the cover 1204 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,200 resolution for the draft to go up to the 1205 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,599 county yes 1206 00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:06,040 okay yeah we need to move yes we need to 1207 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,079 move that so move as this disc okay 1208 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,480 second all those in favor I okay now we 1209 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,280 need a motion to um call for a public 1210 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,400 hearing to discuss if needed the 1211 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,920 extension on the 1212 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,480 moratorium so second all those in 1213 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,440 favor one final matter on this whole 1214 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,079 packet Madam president there was a 1215 00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:32,400 Seeker I think that a Seeker resolution 1216 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,880 declaring this as a non type two action 1217 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,440 I think we should just wait on that 1218 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,039 until we get the final product of the uh 1219 00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:43,839 ordinance ready to go and use that as a 1220 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:46,319 companion piece of legislation once for 1221 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:49,400 the final 1222 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,000 okay anything else Mr thank you okay 1223 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,319 thank you all right um 1224 00:55:57,319 --> 00:55:58,640 item number 1225 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,240 seven threeyear home Consortium 1226 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:03,520 agreement R the city of troit in town 1227 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,440 Miss 1228 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,520 Carver good evening our sced Detroit 1229 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,760 Colony Consortium agreement is up for 1230 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,720 Renewal we renew it every 3 years 1231 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:15,920 roughly each year we get a million 1232 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,799 dollar in Home Federal funding that's 1233 00:56:17,799 --> 00:56:20,119 allocated with connect being a leite 1234 00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:22,920 entity part of this renewal process is 1235 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,680 that we need to do a resolution stating 1236 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,200 just that we're the lead entity and we're 1237 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,799 approving the renewal of the home 1238 00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:32,480 Consortium agreement for another three 1239 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,839 years my recommendation today which I 1240 00:56:34,839 --> 00:56:37,640 did Supply um for your review the last 1241 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,160 resolution that we did is that we passed 1242 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,960 another threeyear Ral for the home 1243 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,920 consor agreement any questions or 1244 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,799 comments move it second all those in 1245 00:56:47,799 --> 00:56:51,799 favor I thank you um the next one is our 1246 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:53,440 Pro housing communities pledge 1247 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,480 resolution Miss par yes to governor 2023 1248 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,760 executive order um has some designated 1249 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,920 funds that some discretionary funds that 1250 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,240 we would have access to if we get the 1251 00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:08,119 pro housing community designation part 1252 00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:11,039 of that process to get that is to pass 1253 00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:13,200 the community housing Pro housing 1254 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,640 community pledge resolution I do need to 1255 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,400 supply the exact wording to you for 1256 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,000 review which I do have to make sure that 1257 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,880 we're aign um by passing this resolution 1258 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,400 we are agreeing to things that we 1259 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,559 already do one streamlining and 1260 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,440 permitting from multif family housing 1261 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,799 affordable housing units accessibility 1262 00:57:29,799 --> 00:57:31,720 and Supportive Housing that we're going 1263 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,599 to adopt policies that affirmatively 1264 00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,760 further fair housing incorporate 1265 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,760 Regional Housing needs into our planning 1266 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640 decisions and increase development 1267 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,960 capacity for residential uses so today 1268 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,440 um the A is for city council to do a um 1269 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,599 resolution adopting the pro housing 1270 00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:50,160 communities 1271 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,839 pledge so um Mrs Carver will provide us 1272 00:57:52,839 --> 00:57:54,799 with that information but if uh everyone 1273 00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:56,920 is comfortable p that information we can 1274 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,880 move it now and if there's any question 1275 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,880 of course we can um remove it if 1276 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,680 necessary but I'll entertain a motion to 1277 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,640 do so second all those in favor I thank 1278 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,559 you very 1279 00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:11,400 much okay so quickly uh item number nine 1280 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,480 is um I'm asking for a ceremonial 1281 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,680 resolution recognizing spal Zulus and 1282 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,520 Steve Harris for their years of service 1283 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,640 at woodlon Park um they spent 133 years 1284 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,039 revitalizing that Park SPO is now moving 1285 00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:25,920 away and Steve just felt like he 1286 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,039 couldn't carried on on his own so just 1287 00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:29,720 want to the council to recognize the 1288 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,799 work that they put into the city 1289 00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:34,839 park second all those in 1290 00:58:34,839 --> 00:58:37,280 favor uh the next item is a ceremony 1291 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,799 resolution recognizing National 1292 00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:41,240 Caribbean American Heritage Month Mr M 1293 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,480 Baron thank you June is recognized as 1294 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,599 National Caribbean heritage month and I 1295 00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:48,599 once again asking for resolution to 1296 00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:50,760 recognize the Caribbean 1297 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,000 American contribution to our city andal 1298 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,599 reg I'll move it 1299 00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:59,559 second all those in favor 1300 00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:04,319 hi okay item number 11 is a proposed 1301 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:06,880 changing um proposed zoning change for 1302 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,799 this SKC 40 project um I'll turn that 1303 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:11,880 over to the 1304 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,720 mayor thank you uh mam 1305 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,720 president we've been fortunate done a 1306 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,760 number of major announcements recently 1307 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,599 on projects in the city uh this item 1308 00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,680 coming before you tonight I want to 1309 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,160 thank 1310 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,039 uh the landbank team ecni Community 1311 00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:33,720 Builders developers 1312 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,520 Metroplex it will 1313 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,559 have as big an impact or more than some 1314 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:42,200 of the other things that have we've 1315 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,119 announced and are getting bigger 1316 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,799 headlines but it's going to clean up a 1317 00:59:47,799 --> 00:59:49,720 lot of blight within the area it's going 1318 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,960 to create housing opportunities and 1319 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,720 hopefully just continue the level of 1320 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,720 excitement that we have on community on 1321 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,520 this Community where people are making 1322 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,240 Investments here and that they'll be 1323 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,319 able to take advantage of your 1324 01:00:01,319 --> 01:00:03,440 moratorium on the price structure Mr 1325 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,240 here but with that I turn it over to Mr 1326 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,359 Gillan from uh Metroplex to go through 1327 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:13,119 the uh proposal and the request we thank 1328 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:17,200 the council it should be we thank the 1329 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,160 council president for uh having us 1330 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,039 tonight and for all of you for being 1331 01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:23,839 here I want to introduce Steve strikman 1332 01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,680 from our land bank love having backing 1333 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,799 on our team s bua from Five Corners 1334 01:00:29,799 --> 01:00:31,599 development very involved in this 1335 01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:34,480 project Andy brick our legal 1336 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,520 counsel Courtney Davis from LaBella 1337 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,599 Associates and yon Thompson from 1338 01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:42,280 Community Builders who's already done so 1339 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,160 much good work on the Aly Street 1340 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,359 Corridor as the mayor said we're very 1341 01:00:46,359 --> 01:00:49,880 pleased to bring this forward this me 1342 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,920 this is really we're riding on the 1343 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,160 coattails of the great work done by the 1344 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,920 legal team and the codes team here in 1345 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,920 the city and the mayor and everyone in 1346 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,240 this room to uh it kind of reminds me of 1347 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,520 the wedgeway building we went after our 1348 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,039 bad owner there we're able to collect a 1349 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,720 huge fine get the building transferred 1350 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,680 to a new owner we have a $20 million 1351 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,039 project under way there with the help of 1352 01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:16,240 the restore theor program we want to do 1353 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,319 the same here so first and foremost 1354 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,200 though the cod's team the Leal Team Max 1355 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000 has been spectacular on this and she 1356 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,000 joined the city team uh won a judgment 1357 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,240 against the owner of this connected 40 1358 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,280 properties of $760,000 that's the 1359 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,760 biggest fine in the history of the city 1360 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,640 as I understand it again I have nothing 1361 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,119 to do with it I wish I could take credit 1362 01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:38,079 for it this it's so spectacular but I 1363 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,160 can't and um with this so you not only 1364 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,480 are you going to get $760,000 to put in 1365 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,400 your budget but we're going to get these 1366 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,440 blighted properties cleaned up which is 1367 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,440 just so exciting and you see a couple 1368 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,000 pictures there just go back to me if you 1369 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,119 can the one building I've talked to the 1370 01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,359 council president on this upper left 1371 01:01:56,359 --> 01:01:58,400 many many times it's it's burned out 1372 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240 it's a disaster um you know you look at 1373 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,480 the interior conditions of some of these 1374 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,920 buildings along the Albany Street 1375 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,160 quarter so it's it's really exciting 1376 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,359 that uh this this judgment was levied uh 1377 01:02:10,359 --> 01:02:12,599 and now we're moving forward the plan to 1378 01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:14,520 clean up the pl 1379 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,640 sites in addition this all of those 1380 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,160 buildings are along the Aly Street 1381 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,319 quarter adjacent to that Al Street 1382 01:02:21,319 --> 01:02:23,000 quarter of course is the Mohawk Honda 1383 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,240 site which our partners at the county 1384 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,799 agreed to buy and have closed on 1385 01:02:27,799 --> 01:02:31,039 purchased it for $980,000 and the county 1386 01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:33,720 has dedicated as you all know $3 million 1387 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,720 to develop that site of arpa funding to 1388 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,680 develop a grocery store at that site so 1389 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,480 we've got all of this potential uh good 1390 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,599 things happening on Aly Street and of 1391 01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:46,520 course the um Monda site is right next 1392 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440 to one of the great things about this 1393 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,400 site it fronts both on Aly Street and on 1394 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,440 State 1395 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,359 Street next 1396 01:02:54,359 --> 01:02:57,720 slide when we looked at 1397 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,960 developing uh the Monda site for um 1398 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,400 retail and for new development it 1399 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,920 quickly became apparent that you 1400 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,799 couldn't do one project without the 1401 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:10,799 other you had to run these projects in 1402 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:12,359 tandem I didn't think of this I wasn't 1403 01:03:12,359 --> 01:03:14,319 smart enough but our team is is very 1404 01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:16,240 smart so they said You' got to run these 1405 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,240 in tandem when we started showing the 1406 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,440 Mohawk Honda site to to developers and 1407 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,200 to uh interested retailers they said 1408 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,319 what about all this BL on ay street 1409 01:03:25,319 --> 01:03:26,960 right next to s so you have to do them 1410 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,799 in Tandem and that's why we're here to 1411 01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:30,079 talk about tonight we're moving them 1412 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,559 forward at the same time we've put 1413 01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:34,319 together a great team commity Builders 1414 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:36,000 Five Corners development Better 1415 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,960 Community neighborhoods uh the 1416 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,039 consultant team is very strong from our 1417 01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:43,839 environmental experts to CT mail laella 1418 01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:46,720 Andy brick Law Firm Jackson Demolition 1419 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,950 and of course Metroplex of the 1420 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,760 land this team has been very busy uh 1421 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,640 over the last uh 6 to8 months surveys 1422 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,880 have been completed phase one 1423 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,119 environmental reviews completed Phase 2 1424 01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:03,000 is basically completed ongoing Geotech 1425 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,680 so we're testing the soil ongoing 1426 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,359 asbestos testing demolition budgets put 1427 01:04:08,359 --> 01:04:10,799 together asbestos abatement is underway 1428 01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:12,400 on these properties so we're getting 1429 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,520 ready to develop the site this is the 1430 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,240 same thing we did at the ALCO site this 1431 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,960 is the same thing we've done time and 1432 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,119 time again in this 1433 01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:22,640 community again not only did the county 1434 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,160 buy Monda and get site control but we 1435 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,559 went after and again the city uh was 1436 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,200 super Cooperative on this uh we were 1437 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,160 awarded a $2.75 million Grant from the 1438 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,799 Restore New York program to demolish and 1439 01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:38,480 clean up this site and prep it for 1440 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,160 development so we have that in hand so 1441 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,760 again it's a development momentum we 1442 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,680 have these properties on Aly street that 1443 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,599 are coming under control we have the M 1444 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,920 Honda side under control and now we have 1445 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,279 this grant to help prep the M Honda site 1446 01:04:50,279 --> 01:04:53,480 for um development we're here tonight 1447 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,039 because you need to play a key role in 1448 01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,680 moving this project before we want to 1449 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,640 rezone and this is critical for this 1450 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,160 project to go forward it's in a minor 1451 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,799 change there's four Parcels on sken 1452 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:08,960 street that are that need to be reson uh 1453 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,359 and there are three Parcels on Albany 1454 01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:14,640 Street the four on all on sken street 1455 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,440 two are owned by Sora and they're in the 1456 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,279 process we're in the process of asking 1457 01:05:18,279 --> 01:05:21,000 those to be turned over to the land bank 1458 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,760 the other two are part of this connected 1459 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,160 40 the infamous connected 40 assemblage 1460 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,799 all of the properties on Albany Street 1461 01:05:27,799 --> 01:05:31,119 are part of the uh uh the sk40 1462 01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:34,079 assemblage so you see uh on the first 1463 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:37,640 Slide the current zoning see the red box 1464 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,359 um on SKC Street see the small red box 1465 01:05:40,359 --> 01:05:42,880 on Aly street again four Parcels on 1466 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,240 skincity three on on Albany we move 1467 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,559 those into the green uh and um you can 1468 01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,559 see that all the adjacent areas are 1469 01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:56,160 already zoned uh you know as C4 so we're 1470 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,160 making a very minor change with three 1471 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,960 Parcels on ALB street that are part of 1472 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,480 the sked 40 assemblage four on connected 1473 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,440 Street what that allows us to do is move 1474 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,880 forward with the project uh site a is 1475 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,279 the Monda site to to demolish that 1476 01:06:13,279 --> 01:06:16,079 building almost an 18,000 ft building 1477 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,240 clean it up remediate it site B there 1478 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,720 are 10 Parcels there very blighted those 1479 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,920 come down the buildings are unsafe Again 1480 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,319 part of theu 40 assemblage site C 1481 01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:31,200 similar activity the parcels are cleaned 1482 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,559 up they're heavily damaged that's the 1483 01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:35,359 fire damage parcel that you see in Aly 1484 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:41,079 street now it has to come down it's very blighted and and dilapidated site 1485 01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:43,000 so we're able to clean up a lot of this 1486 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,200 bried Corridor on ALB Street and here's 1487 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,000 the good part uh what we are planning to 1488 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,279 do with this great development team 1489 01:06:51,279 --> 01:06:54,240 we've put together is to build the new 1490 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,720 grocery store of 16 000 ft um in site 1491 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,760 a and build 1492 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,319 125 housing units as well in site a in 1493 01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:11,160 site B on the lower left uh 80 units 1494 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,720 site C 20 units so 225 units of new 1495 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,119 affordable high quality 1496 01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,440 housing uh Fitness Center business 1497 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,160 center community indoor outdoor space 1498 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,760 you see all the green space on on the 1499 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,880 map there's a lot of green space in this 1500 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,559 project one of the things we talked to 1501 01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:31,559 the council president about many times 1502 01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:35,039 is having a very nice pathway from the 1503 01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:37,440 grocery store back to Albany Street 1504 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,279 that's in the plan uh we have big buffer 1505 01:07:40,279 --> 01:07:44,640 areas around underground parking uh uh 1506 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,559 you know first level parking of the 1507 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,599 apartment buildings being uh first floor 1508 01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,319 parking so it's really a a very good 1509 01:07:51,319 --> 01:07:54,079 site plan and uh we're excited to move 1510 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:56,119 it forward but we need to do this 1511 01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:58,079 uh zoning change this minor zoning 1512 01:07:58,079 --> 01:07:59,880 change in order to do this what does 1513 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,839 this get us more more quality housing 1514 01:08:02,839 --> 01:08:05,200 removal of blighted and hazardous 1515 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,920 buildings uh continue the the uh 1516 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,160 development that we want to see in this 1517 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,799 quarter provide access to Transit 1518 01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:16,319 provide walkable development and um a 1519 01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:20,239 tree line sidewalks we talked to the to many of you about you're concerned 1520 01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:22,480 that this be a walkable development have 1521 01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:25,799 good sidewalks have good landscaping and 1522 01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:28,279 really be a nice addition to our 1523 01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,600 community of course one of the reasons 1524 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,520 we're doing this one of the drivers is 1525 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,040 to improve access to fresh food enhance 1526 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,239 food security improve quality of life 1527 01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,400 and and the store will create 25 to 30 1528 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,600 new jobs as well so it's really a a very 1529 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,040 creative development taking those 1530 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,400 blighted buildings down that you won 1531 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,799 this big judgment against this notorious 1532 01:08:49,799 --> 01:08:52,520 landlord who was um Breaking All the 1533 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,000 Rules uh getting us 760,00 ,000 getting 1534 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,400 those sites developed for quality 1535 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,400 affordable housing taking the site that 1536 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,520 the county purchased cleaning that up 1537 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,159 knocking the building down and 1538 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,000 developing it for 1539 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,880 grocery to move this forward that's what 1540 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,480 we're asking you to do declare your 1541 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,839 intent that you often do to be lead 1542 01:09:12,839 --> 01:09:14,759 agency under Seeker which is required 1543 01:09:14,759 --> 01:09:17,000 for any project like this make a 1544 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,239 referral to the Planning Commission uh 1545 01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:22,560 the evening on the zoning change and 1546 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,640 they'll go through their usual process 1547 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,199 and call for a public hearing as 1548 01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:30,600 well you see a couple of the skanky 40 1549 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,960 properties there um they're really 1550 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,319 blighted and um again they all get 1551 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,239 cleaned up uh with this project and we 1552 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,030 happy to answer any 1553 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,000 questions um so you talked about the 1554 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,480 grocery storees do you have has you 1555 01:09:47,480 --> 01:09:49,640 identified who that grocery store we're 1556 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,759 under a non-disclosure right now but we 1557 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:54,800 have a letter int of intent uh in place 1558 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,800 we're working very diligently to 1559 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,760 complete that transaction okay could you 1560 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,000 give us a little bit information what 1561 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,400 the timeline might would look like would 1562 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,199 look like on this project the the 1563 01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:08,679 timeline is is we move this ahead take 1564 01:10:08,679 --> 01:10:10,800 the zone change to the Planning 1565 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,280 Commission uh it's critical to allow um 1566 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,280 uh this development to to move forward 1567 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,920 uh and again it builds on the momentum 1568 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,400 we've already seen on allby stre the 1569 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,480 community Builder Hillside Crossings 1570 01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:25,880 project uh the Joe Allen 1571 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,600 apartments and um uh some of the other 1572 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,199 developments Hillside Crossing 2 um we 1573 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:35,760 then move into the uh development stage 1574 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,960 and bring the the project the building 1575 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,480 designs and and other uh features of the 1576 01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:41,880 project back to the Planning Commission 1577 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,960 for final review and move the project 1578 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,480 forward overall do you know about and 1579 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,000 the time onine I'm not trying to like 1580 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,840 pin it down to the day we have been 1581 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,840 meeting weekly for longer than I want to 1582 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,239 tell you 1583 01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:59,360 we have a call every Friday with this 1584 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,760 development team and we take notes and 1585 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,960 uh it is moving forward um I would say 1586 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,719 what would you think to me yeah Q2 Q3 1587 01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:11,280 2027 we would expect delivery so we 1588 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,520 we're hoping to have all HCR approvals 1589 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,560 by Q2 Q3 of this coming year and then 1590 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,360 it's about a roughly a two-year build oh 1591 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,360 okay the the key is getting the the 1592 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,040 sites prepped and cleaned up uh getting 1593 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,080 Monda cleaned up getting the building 1594 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,840 down we have the restore Grant in hand 1595 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,159 the developer the development team we 1596 01:11:33,159 --> 01:11:35,640 put together has the financing to 1597 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,120 purchase these buildings from the 1598 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,360 receiver that's has been appointed by 1599 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,520 the courts to sell these properties so 1600 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:47,870 you get your $960,000 this 1601 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,719 year9 76 you got me all right and then 1602 01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:55,360 uh so that happens the demolition of 1603 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,719 cond would happen this year the 1604 01:11:57,719 --> 01:11:59,800 demolition of the sky 40 properties 1605 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,560 would happen this year hopefully this 1606 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,040 year yep and then we'll have cleaned up 1607 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,600 sites environmentally remediated like we 1608 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,600 did look at the you know the the corner 1609 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,840 of KRA all where we built that beautiful 1610 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,679 new housing and cleaned up you know a 1611 01:12:14,679 --> 01:12:16,440 dry cleaner site that was very very 1612 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:18,679 dirty you know so all of those things 1613 01:12:18,679 --> 01:12:21,320 take a little time but then we head into 1614 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,800 the development phase and the 1615 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:28,040 construction phase and it's a it's a very large exciting 1616 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,639 project as a mayor said this Rivals some 1617 01:12:30,639 --> 01:12:32,159 of the larger developments that we've 1618 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,719 seen happen in this community uh as a 1619 01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:36,920 result of our great partnership between 1620 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,560 the county and the city and our unified 1621 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,199 economic development team is it 1622 01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:43,239 conceivable that the the store the 1623 01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:44,920 grocery store will be open before all 1624 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,199 the apartments are completed or there 1625 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:50,080 like everything going if you want to if you wanted to add something to this 1626 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,960 you could join Mr Gillan up here because 1627 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,040 then you'd be on the cameras um is it 1628 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,159 conceivable that the grocery store would 1629 01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:58,120 be open prior to that is it are you 1630 01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,520 planning just everything kind of launch 1631 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,560 it at one time it's probably going to 1632 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,320 happen all at the same time just CU part 1633 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,520 of the funding from from the HCR is 1634 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,120 going to include funding for helping to 1635 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,800 support the grocery store okay so 1636 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,560 realistically speaking it would all be 1637 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,239 delivered around the same time I mean uh 1638 01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:14,960 the Monda site is obviously going to be 1639 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,719 the first we're not necessarily phasing 1640 01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:17,840 it but it's going to be the first to be 1641 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,360 built and then we're going to move on to 1642 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,400 the other sites it's going to sites 1643 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,520 after but it wouldn't be open until 1644 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,920 everything else is finished even if yeah 1645 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,800 okay thank 1646 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,440 you Mr Wes uh so it's more of a comment 1647 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,880 definitely scany winning and respect to 1648 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,719 economic revitalization and 1649 01:13:35,719 --> 01:13:37,320 Redevelopment is definitely something 1650 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,120 that I've come to just appreciate 1651 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,480 whenever you come to our Council and 1652 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:42,239 definitely is respective of the team and 1653 01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:44,000 its Collective work so to definitely 1654 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,040 thank you for continuing to provide 1655 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,400 these types of results um in that same 1656 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,639 context I also want to say U taking a 1657 01:13:50,639 --> 01:13:53,520 Step Beyond that where it's apparent the 1658 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,840 end users benefit from these types of 1659 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,880 efforts where the grocery store and the 1660 01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,400 additional housing and some of the other 1661 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,239 areas that you highlighted but also I 1662 01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:02,880 want to make sure there's considerable 1663 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,880 Investments kind of speaking in in 1664 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,840 spirit to what councilman Farley always 1665 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,960 brings up um making sure that our small 1666 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,440 business owners and our small business 1667 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,440 contractors can see those wins as well 1668 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:14,920 not to speak as though they do not um 1669 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,880 but saying that we need to continue 1670 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,120 making sure that there are also tangible 1671 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,080 wins for those types of individuals 1672 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,719 where having uh these developers come in 1673 01:14:23,719 --> 01:14:25,360 and help clean up definitely very 1674 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,560 welcomed but I know we have some upand 1675 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,840 cominging businesses within the 1676 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,120 community who are truly prideful scant 1677 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,280 dians that would love to be a part of 1678 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:33,639 these efforts as well you know that's a 1679 01:14:33,639 --> 01:14:35,320 great point I'm glad you rais it we just 1680 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,679 had an Outreach event up at the Mosaic 1681 01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:39,679 development on Crane Street inviting you 1682 01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:41,040 know the neighborhood in inviting the 1683 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,880 local businesses in we'll do the same 1684 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,040 thing here over and over inviting the 1685 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,760 team in and I'm just comment on earlier 1686 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,159 thrilled that you passed the pro housing 1687 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:51,719 uh move that forward tonight thank you 1688 01:14:51,719 --> 01:14:52,960 because that's going to help us in so 1689 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,480 many ways that is really be becoming 1690 01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:56,960 something that they they'll look at when 1691 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,639 they're scoring these Grant applications 1692 01:14:58,639 --> 01:15:00,159 to the state so as your development 1693 01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,520 director said very well this evening 1694 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,040 that's a very important that'll be 1695 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,760 helpful to our grant applications that 1696 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,080 we're applying 1697 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,600 for Miss Patrick I just um wanted to 1698 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,360 comment about the grocery store because 1699 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,440 of course there's also the Electric City 1700 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:17,560 grocery store going in at the other end 1701 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,120 um and I'm just wondering if there was 1702 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,199 ever consideration 1703 01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:24,120 of using this site for the Electric City 1704 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,719 grocery store so that now in we'll have 1705 01:15:27,719 --> 01:15:31,080 two Grocery Stores um instead of one 1706 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,440 both are still under development it's a 1707 01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:35,679 good question we have spoke spoken to 1708 01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:38,320 both groups they're both still under 1709 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,320 development um um that's a question you 1710 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,229 have to ask to call 1711 01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:48,719 up okay and I think this is fabulous I'm 1712 01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:50,560 very excited especially that the 1713 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,159 demolition will happen within this year 1714 01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:55,080 is what I think I heard you say um so 1715 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,840 the fence will be going up um the next 1716 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,159 couple weeks around M Honda and um 1717 01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,280 you'll see the site remediated and the 1718 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,920 other and the house and the demolition 1719 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,600 as well we're just wait waiting on 1720 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,840 closing the contract once that with the 1721 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,760 housing once we close on that we'll demo 1722 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,639 those Monda will come down sooner uh but 1723 01:16:12,639 --> 01:16:14,199 realistically speaking within the next 1724 01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:16,560 two or three months would be our V I 1725 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,760 really want to thank the team the mayor 1726 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,400 mat we've taken up a lot of your time 1727 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,639 her time on preparing legal briefs and 1728 01:16:24,639 --> 01:16:26,960 other things for the development team 1729 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,239 council president has been uh advising 1730 01:16:29,239 --> 01:16:30,679 us on this and working with us for 1731 01:16:30,679 --> 01:16:32,320 months now on this development you know 1732 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,040 going back made some very good points 1733 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,920 about when we should bring this forward 1734 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,600 uh given the U the legal issues that 1735 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,080 were surrounding this we're very 1736 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,880 confident now this is the time and place 1737 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,719 to move this project forward and and 1738 01:16:45,719 --> 01:16:48,520 clean up this this blight on Al Street 1739 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,360 and and clean up the mwanda site as well 1740 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,199 and again we should say Manda has been 1741 01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:54,880 nothing but Cooperative on this 1742 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,600 abolutely great citizens of the 1743 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,080 community held the option with the 1744 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,360 county for 3 years so that all the 1745 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,280 proper due diligence could be done with 1746 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,400 the cleanup and Etc 1747 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,000 so Mr M on the apartments are there 1748 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,800 considerations for set aside low income 1749 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,000 apartments yeah so the uh the entire uh 1750 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,320 all of the buildings all four of the 1751 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,880 buildings will be affordable affordable 1752 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,760 in income regulated so so you have to 1753 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,440 show 1754 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,239 your your rent is based on your 1755 01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:29,280 income 1756 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,920 okay there these are high quality units 1757 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,360 Business Center Fitness Center 1758 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,679 Parking uh Green Space uh these are 1759 01:17:38,679 --> 01:17:40,360 units every one of us would be proud to 1760 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,480 live in they're made affordable by state 1761 01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:46,440 housing tax credits that are issued so 1762 01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:49,239 that um we don't price these out of the 1763 01:17:49,239 --> 01:17:52,520 range of hardworking connect idiot 1764 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,639 basically and and that's a big part of 1765 01:17:54,639 --> 01:17:56,679 our our agenda as well you wouldn't know 1766 01:17:56,679 --> 01:17:58,159 the difference if this was a marker rate 1767 01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,719 or affordable housing it just happens to 1768 01:17:59,719 --> 01:18:03,520 be for affordable people who qualif yeah 1769 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,960 thank you in terms of infrastructure um 1770 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,880 you know we had this we had a similar 1771 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,960 conversation when um the other Hills 1772 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,880 side view went in terms of the sidewalks 1773 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,280 essentially you know what the sidewalk 1774 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,679 BLS look like and obviously walked it so 1775 01:18:16,679 --> 01:18:18,320 that is all built into this so that 1776 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,280 we're it's going to become really 1777 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,679 walkable yes absolutely it's all part of 1778 01:18:22,679 --> 01:18:25,239 our plan okay y a lot of green space 1779 01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:27,000 cleaning up light cleaning up 1780 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,239 environmentally uh dirty sites and and 1781 01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:32,480 building quality units and uh making a a 1782 01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:35,000 walkable development okay we've spent a 1783 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,280 lot of time we're viewing through the 1784 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,120 complete streets program so we're very 1785 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,199 familiar with what city wants and what 1786 01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:44,280 we need to deliver thank 1787 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,080 you anyone else Chris Wen said to me be 1788 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,800 short tonight be 1789 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,280 quicket I have a tendency to go on but 1790 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,040 we wanted to fully on this development 1791 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,719 and we appreciate our whole team coming 1792 01:18:57,719 --> 01:19:00,080 out and U being here tonight we 1793 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,199 appreciate you bearing with us this 1794 01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:04,960 exciting is there anything else you want 1795 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,560 to add council members any other 1796 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,320 questions statements okay so at this 1797 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,480 time um the council would need to thank 1798 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:15,600 you very much would to um need to 1799 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,760 declare our intent act lead agency to 1800 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,000 refer this to the Planning Commission 1801 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280 and who and we need to call the public 1802 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,360 hearing yes public hearing call public 1803 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:25,840 hearing but I would recommend until you 1804 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,360 hear back from the Planning Commission 1805 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,199 you want to wait yeah because what would 1806 01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:33,320 right so we need a time frame is okay so 1807 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,110 um tonight we would need to 1808 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,159 De I would like to request 1809 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:43,880 right land just like to request that uh 1810 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,679 the Planning Commission meets late this 1811 01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:48,000 month or in June because of juneth so 1812 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,120 the meeting the last so they're meeting 1813 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,800 the last one day of the month so I don't 1814 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,159 think there's any requirement that you 1815 01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,560 have the public hearing before that but 1816 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,880 I was hoping that the public hearing 1817 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,120 could be either on June 1818 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,719 14th dates June 10th or June 24th I mean 1819 01:20:03,719 --> 01:20:06,560 there will be public there people will 1820 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,159 have the opportunity to speak publicly 1821 01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,600 the Planning Commission meeting they'll 1822 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,120 have opportunity to speak at every one 1823 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,560 of the council meetings as this gets 1824 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,320 adopted down the road Madam president I 1825 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,440 would recommend that the 24th because by 1826 01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,280 that time the Planning Commission would 1827 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,840 have had their meeting and then there 1828 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,159 you would have it on the 24th 1829 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,639 and it would be draft legislation 1830 01:20:27,639 --> 01:20:30,520 perhaps for comment by that time based 1831 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,080 on the actions of the Planning 1832 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,880 Commission so you I'm saying putting it 1833 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,159 out further um our public hearing our 1834 01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:40,800 public hearing on the 24th would be 1835 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,639 based on that schedule would be by that 1836 01:20:43,639 --> 01:20:45,480 time there would be input from the 1837 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:47,520 Planning Commission to we can work off 1838 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,520 of that to draft an ordinance for the 1839 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,120 public hearing for your review okay so 1840 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,760 you can call for the public hearing hear 1841 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,639 in now if you want but it will not be in 1842 01:20:56,639 --> 01:20:59,239 our regular cycle but it'll be put out a 1843 01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:02,280 little bit later okay thank you thank 1844 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,360 you have do anything 1845 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,480 please all right thank you so uh Mr o'ri 1846 01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:09,040 do we need to do these as three separate 1847 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,800 resolutions um yes you do three separate 1848 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,239 referral okay the seeker and the public 1849 01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:16,320 hearing all right first of all I would 1850 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,400 uh entertain a motion to have the city 1851 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,440 council declar as a leite agency second 1852 01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:25,520 all in favor I um I'd like to to uh have 1853 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,880 the city council refer this to the 1854 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,120 zoning um the zoning change to the 1855 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,480 Planning Commission so second all those 1856 01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:35,440 in favor I I and third I'd like to ask 1857 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:37,040 um city council to call for a public 1858 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,480 hearing on June 24th so second all those 1859 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:46,310 in favor I thank you very 1860 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,320 much the remainder of our items are in 1861 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,320 executive session so all members of the 1862 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,920 public will have to leave 1863 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,239 so like motion to go executive session 1864 01:21:58,239 --> 01:22:12,050 so second all in favor thank you 1865 01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:24,629 [Music] 1866 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,960 oh