1 00:00:00,199 --> 00:00:02,919 some of the joining communities have 2 00:00:02,919 --> 00:00:05,920 more restricted access to their 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,080 facilities some charge fees uh the city 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,759 has not done it and uh some of us were 5 00:00:12,759 --> 00:00:15,160 approaching IT staffing level more of an 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,320 open mind uh it's a new facility it 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,400 really looks very impressive uh the 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,920 weather is also going to be slightly 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,960 warmer than we probably like so I assume 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,800 the utilization in the first days is 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,519 going to 12 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:34,760 uh T some of the limits to handle it and 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,879 then we'll just see how it goes uh from 14 00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:42,360 that uh in terms of the actual hours and 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,200 Staffing but some of the fees other 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,399 access issues there still the prodct of 17 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:51,239 the city council and uh not like for the 18 00:00:51,239 --> 00:00:55,079 Central Park pool but the uh rest of the 19 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:57,120 pools in the city or some of the other 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,110 uh facilities that we offer 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,640 who's 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 next yeah I was going to say yes it does 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,479 look beautiful and I think that um 24 00:01:09,479 --> 00:01:11,600 really proud of this project I I would 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,600 say um sustainability of of the project 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,320 is going to be really key so I guess you 27 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,439 know what would be ideal for me and I'm 28 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:23,600 saying this without you know really any 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,280 um information to support at this time 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,799 to the m point we're going to there is 31 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:28,119 going to be a 32 00:01:28,119 --> 00:01:30,079 level kind of seeing how things are 33 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:31,560 going and then being responsive to what 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,320 we see but um I you know my initial 35 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,759 thought would be not to charge residents 36 00:01:37,759 --> 00:01:39,399 of the city but people who don't live 37 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:43,000 here who are coming here to you know to 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,479 will be there be some small fee there 39 00:01:45,479 --> 00:01:46,640 that's probably not and I know that 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,759 happens in other municipalities um the 41 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:51,960 only thought thing would be I know it 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,360 cost the city uh something to enforce 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,920 those fees and like all like so I'll 44 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,799 just you know look at that cost benefit 45 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:01,600 piece there but that's what I would 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,360 be comfortable 47 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,399 with okay mfield so um do 48 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:10,800 we has the parks department come up with 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,959 anything that they' even considering um 50 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:14,480 what those fees might be and who would 51 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,319 be charged um is one of my questions and 52 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:19,800 the other part is there signage that you 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,920 know rules of the pool essentially is 54 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,519 that all in place for this weekend I 55 00:02:26,519 --> 00:02:30,480 hope so you don't know hav been up to 56 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,160 look at they tell me the signages up 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,400 uh and uh currently we don't charge 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,920 anything Mr Farley's Point uh there is a 59 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,480 cost in terms of collecting that and 60 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 some of our neighboring communities are 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,879 far more restrictive in terms of access 62 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:53,680 to their 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 facilities and so we we'll consider 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,840 what's what's reasonable for us to do 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,319 but I have to agree that um to charge 66 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:04,159 residents I don't yeah people you know 67 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:05,360 um because people are really looking 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,640 forward to it and they're not looking 69 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,239 forward to like being sto at the gate 70 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:10,480 for a dollar whatever it's going to be 71 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,840 yeah I was I actually also would support 72 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,480 not charging residents I just wasn't 73 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,720 sure if we were going to have a 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 non-resident a non-resident fee but I 75 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,040 like the idea of you know opening and 76 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,920 see how things go um in terms of 77 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:24,599 Staffing are we all set with the 78 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:27,920 lifeguards and all that we will be by 79 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:34,319 the time we open okay and then oh Mr Toro yes 80 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:39,519 um so residents absolutely children free 81 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:42,319 um no charge um how do they prove 82 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:44,360 they're a resident folks don't have a 83 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,879 license and maybe they don't have a um 84 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,640 an ID where we looking for the for the 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Youth to provide a student ID um to get 86 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,319 in because they might have one from 87 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:59,159 school so what happens um Saturday the 88 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:02,069 gates open 89 00:04:02,079 --> 00:04:05,599 well it's up to the C yeah we have 90 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:09,079 generally used student IDs from the 91 00:04:09,079 --> 00:04:11,560 school district in past summers for 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,079 access to Central Park Pool and the 93 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:17,440 other facilities assume that that's 94 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,840 going to continue okay City the past has 95 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:22,960 had a 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,759 recreation ID that was uh used for the 97 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:30,639 tennis courts the golf course and other 98 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:35,000 facilities that had uh shifted so that 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,840 even though there's fee structures on 100 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:39,520 the books for the ten courts those are 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,160 not collected uh the golf course set up 102 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,960 is where there is a fee structure that 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,880 is uh 100% enforced that becomes a self- 104 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,840 sustaining entity MH we used to get a a 105 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:54,919 photo at the place in Central Park where 106 00:04:54,919 --> 00:04:57,199 the AL um we used to be able to get a 107 00:04:57,199 --> 00:04:59,039 resident photo there for for the golf 108 00:04:59,039 --> 00:05:00,360 course and other things that we were 109 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,880 participating in city um so say um you 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,320 know a young child shows up with their 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,320 mom and their mom doesn't have anything 112 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,400 this weekend can they bring the niag Mok 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Bill I just thinking I sometimes you 114 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 bring that to um to the golf course to 115 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,720 prove you're a resident you know a bill 116 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,600 so I just you know want to make sure 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,280 everyone that's entitled to get in there 118 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,280 to swim this weekend and get in to swim 119 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:26,720 so well but this weekend we're not 120 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,360 asking anybody for anything right is 121 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,110 that correct okay 122 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,000 the having said that the Boys and Girls 123 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,199 Club is going to use the same procedures 124 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:39,639 that they used last year in Central Park 125 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:41,960 where they still have 126 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,560 to uh validate the number of people who 127 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,160 are actually in the pool area because 128 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,800 that dictates how many lifeguards we 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,160 have to have on duty and so they have 130 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,280 collected the student ID or some 131 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,520 counting procedure as people come into 132 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,960 the the facility and that will still be 133 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,880 used just as it was uh in Prior years 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,360 but we're not looking to restrict 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,240 anybody in terms of their access other 136 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,199 than there may be a quantity issue where 137 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,440 uh we would limit people because the 138 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,599 capacity has been exceeded to match with 139 00:06:18,599 --> 00:06:21,000 lifeguards that makes 140 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,960 sense Mr Williams but I'd also like to 141 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,479 comment so to miss uh D Toro's Point 142 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:27,960 like of how do you manage that fee 143 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,919 structure and the collection of it I 144 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:35,870 don't know if I agree well I don't agree 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,110 but doesn't agree either I love that 146 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,520 quote my train thought with 147 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:54,479 theur um uh excuse me so one with the feast structures um 148 00:06:54,479 --> 00:06:56,199 wow my 149 00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:58,199 fault best 150 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:00,800 friend yeah no someone else has a 151 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,800 question maybe it'll come back maybe 152 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,639 it'll come back to you Mr M yeah the 153 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:08,319 hours of operation currently what are 154 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:10,759 the hours for the pools that we have 155 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:13,160 currently in the contract I believe it's 156 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,749 like 12:30 to 6:30 157 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,759 12:30 they do some swiming 158 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:24,319 lessons in the morning before that so it 159 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:25,840 wouldn't be it couldn't be open on a 160 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,759 restricted 161 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:32,599 basis Central are we talking the 162 00:07:32,599 --> 00:07:35,240 central I think he's 163 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,919 ready oh sorry one second Mr Williams so 164 00:07:38,919 --> 00:07:40,879 12:30 to 6:30 for the current pool that 165 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:43,280 we have so we're now looking to have the 166 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,599 same time slot for the Central Park Pool 167 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:48,639 we're looking more of early 168 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:52,159 morning no those are the public hours 169 00:07:52,159 --> 00:07:56,159 there's some swim lessons that they have 170 00:07:56,159 --> 00:07:58,919 scheduled before the opens the General 171 00:07:58,919 --> 00:08:02,199 Public and in terms of security um we're 172 00:08:02,199 --> 00:08:05,240 talking about um cameras and en personal 173 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:11,070 security is that will be available 174 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,159 yes okay um Mr Williams are you yep okay 175 00:08:17,159 --> 00:08:19,759 so say I wanted to also just have a 176 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:21,759 reminder and correct me if I'm wrong Mr 177 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:24,560 Mayor uh the emphasis with using a 178 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,199 considerable amount of the or dollars to 179 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:30,720 create a new resource was to help with 180 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,120 the exploding maintenance fees to where 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,000 it currently was in 182 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,919 effect say that again where the tal Park 183 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,599 Pool currently was it was just a 184 00:08:42,599 --> 00:08:44,880 difficult uh resource to manage just due 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,040 to the the the Aging filtration system 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,200 uh and among other issues with it being 187 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,480 closely uh near the some of the animals 188 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,240 that live around there so wanting to re 189 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,000 uh move it should help with 190 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,519 controlling some of those maintenance 191 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:03,320 and and preventative maintenance costs 192 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,640 in theory to some degree we basically 193 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,200 had no filtration system on the original 194 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,000 pool it was refilled every day it's our 195 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,160 ability to 196 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,480 generate uh very large quantities of 197 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 high quality water at a very low 198 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,880 price uh 199 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,440 so some of that uh will be reduced but 200 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,959 this pool 201 00:09:29,959 --> 00:09:32,000 by its nature where you're recirculating 202 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,399 the water you do have filtration systems 203 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:37,839 better controls there will be uh more of 204 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:40,600 a maintenance issue in terms of people 205 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 monitoring uh the systems 206 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,079 and uh again there will be some upkeep 207 00:09:47,079 --> 00:09:49,720 on those systems to maintain the high 208 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,560 quality of water and uh the overall 209 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,870 character of the 210 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,200 facility I think um one thing I just 211 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,120 want to add just from going up there a 212 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,519 few times this past week um remember 213 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:05,320 that part of the project also had to do 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,920 with the lighting and the roadway and 215 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,640 parking access um it looks like there's 216 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,399 about 36 additional parking spots I I 217 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:15,920 was trying to count them as I was 218 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,920 walking so I didn't get an exact number 219 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,120 but um the lighting is going to really I 220 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 just feel very significantly um increase 221 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,760 some safety um at night time in that 222 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,160 part of the that I mean this is just me 223 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,320 and anecdotally saying but I mean it 224 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 looks really great so I encourage folks 225 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:36,079 to go up there uh and check that out but 226 00:10:36,079 --> 00:10:39,480 I just it's it's world class and mean 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 there's no doubt when you see it and so 228 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,360 I just really am hoping that whatever we 229 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,279 can do security wise um we'll you know 230 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,800 help keep the the buildings the bath 231 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,720 house is just fabulous looking um I 232 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,680 won't be here tomorrow I mean everyone 233 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,320 knows that there is a it's tomorrow 234 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,160 morning I believe is the uh ribbon f 235 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,880 um so I hope that folks can get up there 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,240 uh for that as well so Mr Williams so 237 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,160 I'd say two points one Mr Mayor if you 238 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,680 wouldn't mind speaking I've heard myself 239 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:11,800 I imagine it's the same for other 240 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,920 council members people have walked up 241 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,399 definitely uh laed at the new facility 242 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:17,480 it's going to be there and like that's 243 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 only parking there so I know this is the 244 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,800 first phase of the reconfiguration of 245 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,720 the park but then uh second I wanted to 246 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,200 just point out I know there have been 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,639 ongoing conversations now about security 248 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,079 I think part of it is also challenging 249 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:34,000 the community there are often times 250 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,399 comments of this is why we can't have 251 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:37,519 nice things and I want to ensure that 252 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:39,079 there's also an equal responsibility 253 00:11:39,079 --> 00:11:41,560 placed on our community residents of we 254 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:43,079 can continue to make these Investments 255 00:11:43,079 --> 00:11:45,480 not only in our Renovations of 256 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,000 properties throughout the building but 257 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,040 also making sure that the city is and 258 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,959 remains economically viable but if we 259 00:11:51,959 --> 00:11:54,880 are are chasing ourselves with having 260 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,480 additional costs such as vandalism uh 261 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,839 that makes it difficult to continue 262 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:01,600 these types of efforts so I know that 263 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,200 there are preventive ways you go about 264 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,720 that IE surveillance cameras and also 265 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,240 with maybe increased police uh um uh 266 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,360 patrols throughout the area but but I 267 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,680 want to ensure to Mr um Farley's Point 268 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,760 let's let's see how it is and then 269 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,760 respond rather than putting in place 270 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,880 some safeguards that might not 271 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,360 necessarily be 272 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,560 needed yeah I think I think that's what 273 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,639 the mayor was um indicating in his 274 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:28,720 opening remarks that that would be what 275 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,120 we could trying to do so I appreciate Mr 276 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Carly and Mr Williams following up on 277 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,880 that Mr Toro um and I'd like to up to 278 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,240 you of course your committee bring it 279 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,880 back in two weeks and think about how 280 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:46,480 we're you know my biggest concern is is Mom or Dad can't bring 281 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,720 me I'm Grandma's from out of town and 282 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,839 now she you know she so it's up to the 283 00:12:52,839 --> 00:12:56,000 council you know to work on to decide on 284 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,040 how we're going to move forward with a 285 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,079 fee structure and and things like that 286 00:13:01,079 --> 00:13:02,639 actually the fee structure part of it 287 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:03,880 should really come out of the its 288 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,279 administrative function so they it's 289 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:07,800 like with the golf course they we don't 290 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,680 create the fees they come to us they 291 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:12,720 create the fees and then we say you know 292 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,560 yes or no so really it would be the 293 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,320 parks department we don't really have 294 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,199 the capacity to do that it would really 295 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:21,399 need to be the folks who work here on on 296 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:23,600 a you know daily basis and you know 297 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,920 obviously we can provide suggestions but 298 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,560 creating the fees and all of that is 299 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:29,120 something that with this Administration 300 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,639 way to 301 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:32,920 function and how it's done with all the 302 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,440 other parts with the life cards with all 303 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,040 of that great other question well the 304 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,680 end result is solely the proga of the 305 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:43,360 city council so you know one example for 306 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 this swimming pool is it is now designed 307 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,240 for competitive swimming events 308 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,000 yeah those type of things may increase 309 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,560 our staffing costs or monitoring it so 310 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:01,480 do you want to have those free for City 311 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,160 students uh would there be a fee for any 312 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,560 group that's coming in doing a 313 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:11,120 competitive swimming event uh do we only 314 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,160 charge people outside of the city so 315 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,480 there 316 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,399 are things there again in terms of the 317 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:21,000 policy decision it's only the 318 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 prerogative of the council the policy 319 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,720 yes but like the fees I don't know how 320 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,199 we would you know or even how to how to 321 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:28,600 like do like with the boys and girls 322 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,399 club they came up with the process of 323 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:34,000 how people um show ID and and how to do 324 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,160 um and get in so because we hired them 325 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,399 to uh to do that 326 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,759 so I would think I don't know there's um 327 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:42,959 I know there's not a Parks director 328 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:44,480 right now but I'm assuming there's other 329 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,560 staff that would still be able to um you 330 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,000 know provide us with some gu guidance on 331 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,440 where we start with this I I think 332 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,680 that's a good suggestion um especially 333 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,600 when we start talking about tournaments 334 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,600 um and what will happen because again 335 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,600 it's definitely set up for 336 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,639 that as well so that would be 337 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:08,120 outstanding if we if we could have 10es 338 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,680 i' go wouldn't be a be in 339 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,240 one so can we ask that um we get a 340 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,519 recommendation sure um around some of 341 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,040 these policies just like tennis um 342 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,279 although it's not being enforced but it 343 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:23,279 will 344 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:25,440 be I think you all know how I feel about 345 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 the tennis uh fees so um yeah I think 346 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,440 that and and the same with the golf I 347 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,040 mean we do get that presented to us um 348 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,720 for discussion and and approval so um is 349 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,680 that something that we can do okay thank 350 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,560 you um Mr Farley just what a good 351 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,600 problem to have that we have this 352 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,120 beautiful asset in the middle of our 353 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,199 city that's going to bring people um to 354 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,839 see how amazing our city is so I just 355 00:15:52,839 --> 00:15:54,440 it's good it's a good problem to have I 356 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,000 look forward to working with the councel 357 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,800 to help figure it out good stuff I agree 358 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,319 thank you is there any other business to 359 00:16:01,319 --> 00:16:03,639 come for health and 360 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:06,360 Recreation okay I look for a motion to 361 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,509 adjourn so move um 362 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:14,639 second second okay all in favor I I 363 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,639 thank you thank you I'd like to call the 364 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:18,319 order City development and planning we 365 00:16:18,319 --> 00:16:21,440 have 14 items on the agenda the first 366 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,880 item is to issue the issuance of re 367 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,720 revocable permit number 368 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:34,470 685 to social hospitality group Mr 369 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,720 wall AP I left my packet on my desk so 370 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,199 I'm just going to go through from memory 371 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:43,160 on all these so the 685 social on state 372 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,519 that was a permit that was brought to 373 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:46,959 you prev the insurance and the property 374 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:49,079 owner so we were working with the 375 00:16:49,079 --> 00:16:51,079 property owner on making sure that all 376 00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:55,240 what's that you no I wor about just um 377 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,680 and so now the applicant is the owner 378 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,959 and the names are the simp more uh as 379 00:16:59,959 --> 00:17:01,639 what's going to be on the insurance 380 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:03,519 which was the issue so we should be okay 381 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,120 with the issuance of this part 382 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,760 now there any 383 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,000 questions move second all in favor I 384 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,039 thank you item number two the award and 385 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,000 bid contract for the Simons Lake wall 386 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,199 restoration yep um this was a project 387 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:24,079 that is uh an ARA funded project as well 388 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:27,360 as a Sam Grant funded project um it is 389 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,600 for the restoration of the historic wall 390 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,280 at simons's Park um the project was 391 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,160 scoped uniquely where the city will be 392 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720 purchasing and providing materials and 393 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,120 the contract is essentially for labor 394 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:42,400 only um so the idea is this uh the 395 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,760 company Jaan construction out of New 396 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,559 York um City they will be coming up and 397 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:49,720 Performing essentially masonry only work 398 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,880 to repoint um modify the wall repair the 399 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,880 wall and install pre-cast concrete caps 400 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,200 the city will purchase the preast 401 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,000 concrete caps and then the needed mortar 402 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 and uh grout for the for the project we 403 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,679 did meet with them on site uh we did 404 00:18:06,679 --> 00:18:08,320 call five references because we weren't 405 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,280 familiar with them and um they seemed 406 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,720 like they they had their act together 407 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,440 they have worked for other state 408 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,919 agencies um they are working in almany 409 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:20,120 right now um it's a small family-owned 410 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:23,640 company uh they are an MBE company and 411 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,919 they're looking forward to doing work in 412 00:18:24,919 --> 00:18:27,159 the city uh we actually took them into a 413 00:18:27,159 --> 00:18:29,159 couple areas to look at other project in 414 00:18:29,159 --> 00:18:32,559 the city because to have uh Masons is 415 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:34,320 something that is a skill that we we're 416 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,799 looking for for this kind of stuff so 417 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,520 we're comfortable awarding it uh the 418 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,240 price was competitive 419 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,320 and we'll see and this money is already 420 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,270 in the ARA line for this 421 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,559 project Mr can you just tell us a little 422 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:51,480 bit about the timeline for this work 423 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,120 well the timeline they are ready to go 424 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:55,080 because they're labor only so what we're 425 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,320 doing right now is I'm working with 426 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Sarah and purchasing on the cat 427 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,480 what we were concerned about was the 428 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,360 costs we didn't want to order 420 caps 429 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,480 and then this number come in out of 430 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,919 budget and then we have caps and no 431 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:12,760 labor so uh we wanted to try to get it 432 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,280 so we have this number we already had 433 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,360 the quotes from a local company that 434 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,400 specializes in pre-cast and we don't 435 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,679 need 420 caps tomorrow we just need them 436 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:23,520 to start making the Caps so Sarah's 437 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,400 already contacted their person uh 438 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,120 earlier last later last week about 439 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,240 getting into the caps and then the other 440 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,600 materials are common shell materials so 441 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,360 right now we're just waiting on the 442 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,480 Caps well I I don't have a schedule 443 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,840 we're hoping fall I don't think this is 444 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,480 a project you want to do in the dead of 445 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,600 the summer because you know you're 446 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,480 exposed you're out and uh I don't I 447 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,320 don't think you know you want to do 448 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,320 something more 100 but if we can get 449 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,679 some of the caps on we're going to store 450 00:19:48,679 --> 00:19:51,200 the Caps uh right next to C and's yard 451 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 there uh in stams and then just start 452 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,200 picking away at and working forward they 453 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,159 anticipate once they start it's going to 454 00:19:58,159 --> 00:19:59,799 be around probably I think a sixe 455 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:03,159 project for okay so 456 00:20:03,159 --> 00:20:05,720 thank any other 457 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,480 questions a motion so second all in 458 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,480 favor item number three award and bid award bid and contract for the 459 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280 northberry street Plum station exterior 460 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,440 so this is another uh harpa funed 461 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,360 project so as you're aware we have a new 462 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,039 northberry pump station uh that has put 463 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,000 the existing or the previous North fairy 464 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Pump Station uh as a a abandoned city 465 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 facility the building is historically 466 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,640 significant and there was money approved 467 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,880 to make sure that it does not get into a 468 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,200 state of disrepair um the building is 469 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 okay presently but it's not great so 470 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,200 what the funding for this building is 471 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,760 essentially seal the envelope we're 472 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,520 going to be doing the windows similar 473 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,360 that we did at City Hall removing the 474 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,080 windows restoring the windows replacing 475 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,640 any Rock uh reglazing the glass putting 476 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,480 the back we're going to be replacing the 477 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,679 roof um the reason for the roof is that 478 00:20:56,679 --> 00:20:58,760 the roof right now has over a dozen 479 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,159 penetrations for various Vents and 480 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:03,799 systems to come through because it was a 481 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:05,520 pump house we have the vent we're going 482 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,159 to remove all of those vents fill in 483 00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:10,480 where we can with concrete steel and 484 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,360 masonry and then do one flat roof with 485 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,679 no penetrations so that will really seal 486 00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:17,120 the roof off a lot better to go to the 487 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,080 parit we're going to remove all of the 488 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,240 stucko from the building cuz if you look 489 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,799 at the building the building is a series 490 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:25,200 of Patchwork cuz stuckle was put on in 491 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,000 various years so we're going to remove 492 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,919 all of the stuckle down to the masonry 493 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,080 block and then redo the stucco paint the 494 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840 building so it'll look from the outside 495 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000 like a preserved building the inside is 496 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,840 a different story but from the outside 497 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 it'll be weather tight and preserved and 498 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,880 I know that the Stockade Association is 499 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,080 working on lining up funding to try to 500 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,120 address the interior of building but 501 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,799 this money is for the exterior of the 502 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,840 building have we already done some work 503 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,360 on this and started this process any 504 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,320 work at all in the ex area no not not to 505 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,000 mind out as Paul might have years ago 506 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,919 but to mind know it's just it's there 507 00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:02,919 it's just a building and once again is 508 00:22:02,919 --> 00:22:04,520 one of the tricky situations that we're 509 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,640 trying to work with Stockade is the 510 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,799 reason that we built a new building or 511 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:10,679 one of the many reasons was is that that 512 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:13,880 building was determined to not be um 513 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,760 cost effective to flood proof because it 514 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,159 is in the flood plane so we built a new 515 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:21,120 building that is flood resilient um so 516 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,000 this is fine and I know that we haven't 517 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,760 had any issues there but making 518 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,039 significant investments into the 519 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:28,679 building will be a complex subject going 520 00:22:28,679 --> 00:22:30,840 forward because that is why we abandoned 521 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,919 the 522 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:35,919 building okay any any questions all 523 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:39,760 right on a motion so second all in favor 524 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,760 I thank you and uh the fourth item is 525 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,360 city council to assume role of Seeker 526 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,240 lead Agency for the mobile haror I have 527 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,880 a quick I'll try to make a brief just 528 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,240 presentation to just show you where we 529 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,760 are with this because it's part of the 530 00:22:53,760 --> 00:23:13,630 process okay sure 531 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,679 okay so I don't know how many of you are 532 00:23:16,679 --> 00:23:18,039 aware of this project I'm sure you're 533 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,600 all aware of in some part of me but it 534 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,679 is a rather older project um that was 535 00:23:22,679 --> 00:23:26,080 done preco and it is something that we 536 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,960 have been pushing along slow and 537 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,039 steadily sense then due to all the 538 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:32,919 development really at Mohawk Harbor so 539 00:23:32,919 --> 00:23:35,480 um just to go through I I'll be quicker 540 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,120 than this but we're going to I'm 541 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,640 presenting it here I'm hoping to catch 542 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,960 some publicity from possibly the the 543 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,320 paper just to get it out there what 544 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,760 we're doing we're going to have a public 545 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,600 meeting next week at the Landing which 546 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600 is an official public meeting uh and 547 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,440 then hopefully from there you know we'll 548 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,640 get some input and then we're just going 549 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,240 to move forward with the process of the 550 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,120 project so the overview is um the city 551 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,919 receiv CFA br in 2019 for the creation 552 00:24:00,919 --> 00:24:04,120 of a dot gameway in Plaza with path so 553 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,840 it says um the idea was to create an 554 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,640 access point to the river I don't know 555 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,080 if many people realize it but even 556 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,000 though we are a river front Community we 557 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,159 do not have any docks or points of 558 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:16,840 access to the river other than the parks 559 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,360 so it's kind of unique when you go to 560 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,000 other uh Riverside communities they 561 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,720 usually have docks and we do not um 562 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,480 there was a talk um several years ago um 563 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,440 about putting a dock in Riverside Park 564 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,360 but uh we ended up being controversial 565 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,000 people didn't want the idea of a dock 566 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,120 down there so this is a dock with an 567 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,919 Upland Plaza and I will get into the 568 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:37,760 location a little bit right here you'll 569 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 see the location is we have uh an arena 570 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480 we have the future hotel which improved 571 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,360 um parking lot would be here parking lot 572 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,159 Arena and then that is our Plaza and 573 00:24:47,159 --> 00:24:49,559 those are our docks and that is the RPI 574 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,200 research facility so as I'll get into in 575 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,520 a little bit there's a reason for all 576 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,480 the delay um the project 2016 we put in 577 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,399 some access 578 00:24:59,399 --> 00:25:02,520 2020 we got the grants with this concy 579 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,640 match of 580 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200 15% um that's typical on these kind of 581 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,720 projects you know 582 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360 855s uh City released to design an RFP 583 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,679 in 2021 after Co working with MJ and 584 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,159 what's called waterfront Solutions so MJ 585 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:17,640 is essentially handling all the Civil 586 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,279 work and then Waterfront Solutions is 587 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,200 handling the dot work they're a DOT 588 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,240 company they also did the harbor for G 589 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240 um did a bath metric survey that is a 590 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,799 survey of the river read uh in 2022 the 591 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,360 project was paused and that was we we 592 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520 rushed we got to a point and then it was 593 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,279 Aquatic Center I was like okay where's 594 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:38,960 the Aquatic Center going to go and it 595 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,399 was never mind not an aquatic center 596 00:25:40,399 --> 00:25:42,600 arena it's like okay where's the arena 597 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,080 going to go so we actually had a spot uh 598 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,760 picked out and in South there I can show 599 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,279 you where we actually were going to put 600 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:54,399 the the docks here mhm um and we had a 601 00:25:54,399 --> 00:25:56,360 plan laid out and then the arena came 602 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,039 forward and it was weight and so we 603 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:00,000 didn't want to move it anymore so we 604 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080 waited until planning approval and 605 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 everything was set with the arena and 606 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200 then we found out nice little spot in 607 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,559 the middle the Nic thing about this 608 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:12,279 location is that we are by a turnaround 609 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,640 we're by parking the glassi group is 610 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,320 said that that would be public parking 611 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,000 they will allow people during the day to 612 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,120 park there uh you know not event 613 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,679 notwithstanding but you know there 614 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:24,559 probably won't be event 24/7 and we are 615 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,440 directly adjacent to the Alo Heritage 616 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,640 Trail so this will both be a Overlook on 617 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960 the trail and the landing and we'll have 618 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,520 parking and a drop off um you know be 619 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,000 honest this has to be publicly 620 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,039 accessible and probably get into that 621 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:40,600 but people who know the area I do not 622 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080 see this going to be a full access dock 623 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,640 for recreational purposes the reason 624 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,679 being is of the gang way the gang way is 625 00:26:48,679 --> 00:26:50,760 going to be quite long to get down from 626 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,000 the shore to the water and across the 627 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,279 street by the lighthouse if you're 628 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,919 familiar with the area it's the easiest 629 00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:59,039 launch in the area there's nothing 630 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,320 easier than that you park you launch 631 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,679 it's 10 ft you don't go down the gameway 632 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,200 so I think that for people wanting to 633 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,840 see the river and be involved and be by 634 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,960 the water and fishing and all that but I 635 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,240 really don't think that people will 636 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760 kayak and Hike their kayaks down and 637 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,360 things like that unless it's for the 638 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,960 novelty of it because it is it is a 639 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,880 slope um so the project the one stage 640 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,279 like we said is the plaza which we're 641 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,399 calling the plaza The Landing it's small 642 00:27:23,399 --> 00:27:25,960 5,000 ft it will have lights it will 643 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,279 have signs benches we are looking at 644 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,919 very attractive welcom is concy because 645 00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:32,520 you have to understand that this is 646 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,440 going to be now a new entrance way for 647 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,679 the city this is going to be a Gateway 648 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:39,200 we are looking at you know people who 649 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,720 are called Loopers who come from all 650 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,399 around the country this is going to be 651 00:27:42,399 --> 00:27:44,320 allowing them to stop and go to 652 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,799 connected so we really want to make sure 653 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,960 that we have a nice anchored site here 654 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,679 that shows you where they are also we 655 00:27:50,679 --> 00:27:52,480 are talking with a Riverfront Cruise 656 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,039 company that does small Riverfront 657 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,480 cruises of 40 people on boats you know 658 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840 we're limited by the locks so they would 659 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,640 come in so this this is something that's 660 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,039 important we're trying to make sure that 661 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,320 we're working and we're also 662 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,360 incorporating this into our dri wayf 663 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,159 finding because that also is going to 664 00:28:07,159 --> 00:28:09,279 connect to downtown so there's a lot of 665 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,760 irons in the fire with this this will 666 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,919 have water this will have sanitary we 667 00:28:12,919 --> 00:28:15,159 are not getting into fuel fueling is a 668 00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:16,600 whole other animal we're going to allow 669 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,200 the yacht club in places like that to 670 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,640 handle fueling uh parking look say we be 671 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,880 at the um there's a better idea you see 672 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,159 the passenger drop off the trail and 673 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:28,600 then the U the area itself we are going 674 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,399 to have electricity you're going to need 675 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,039 a large Transformer we'll try to 676 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,279 landscape that make it as pretty as 677 00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:35,760 possible these are some of the things 678 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,399 that we were looking at you know just to 679 00:28:37,399 --> 00:28:39,480 say ventes that we are actually moving 680 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,000 away from the arch but they took a 681 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,480 picture of it we are moving away from 682 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720 the arch style um one of the things to 683 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,880 point out is uh this one right here uh 684 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,720 I've been to marinas before uh my family 685 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360 and that is something that we are going 686 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,240 to have to talk about and discuss going 687 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,320 forward is what is Public Access what is 688 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,640 not Public Access I'm proposing that the 689 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880 docks are publicly available from a time 690 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,559 to a time and that it is posted and that 691 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,480 after a certain time it could be sundown 692 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,559 most likely uh the gate is locked and if 693 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,320 you have a boat there you're have a code 694 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,399 because one of the things that you're 695 00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:21,399 going to see is if you actually look at 696 00:29:21,399 --> 00:29:24,360 the river sometimes you will see million 697 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,880 doll boats multi-million dollar boats 698 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,840 and we want to make it safe environment 699 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,399 that somebody feels and the voting 700 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,720 Community is a very tight Community 701 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,519 especially with internet social media 702 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,559 forums uh we really are looking for it's 703 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,960 open it's signed it's a public amenity 704 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720 and the sunlight come on down and then 705 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,000 at night time you know what we're going 706 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,480 to close it off we don't want people you 707 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,240 know down on the docks it is a little 708 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,679 tough to see we are going to have 709 00:29:48,679 --> 00:29:50,679 cameras in security we are working at 710 00:29:50,679 --> 00:29:52,480 getting a dock management company but I 711 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,000 just don't want you to think that is 712 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 something that we're looking at is uh uh 713 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,760 and it's very common at commercial 714 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,360 marinas with this type of public um so 715 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,120 the project just it's two projects it's 716 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,399 two contracts that's what we're saying 717 00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:08,200 to Dock and it's a plaza so they're 718 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,880 awarded differently they'll have to be 719 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240 progressed differently so we've already 720 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640 talked with the permitting we've got a 721 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,039 lot of the permitting done this is the 722 00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:17,679 secret portion we're now going to reach 723 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:19,279 out to all the involved agencies and 724 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:20,600 talk to them about making sure that 725 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120 they're okay with it we have uh stamp 726 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 plans uh right now we're just going 727 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,399 through all of the finals on it for the 728 00:30:27,399 --> 00:30:28,600 doc company 729 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,240 um and then we'll be done with seeker 730 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,679 and then hopefully we issue a 731 00:30:32,679 --> 00:30:34,440 declaration later this year and then 732 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,159 we're out to bid like it says in August 733 00:30:37,159 --> 00:30:38,720 we look in August we're going to have a 734 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,320 lot of manufacturing time because these 735 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,159 are custle very large docs uh and then 736 00:30:43,159 --> 00:30:44,840 as it shows doc delivery and do 737 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,519 construction of next year we are one of 738 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:50,200 the things just to also point out that 739 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200 we are struggling right now with 740 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,440 schedule and when docks go in and when 741 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,679 they wouldn't go in we are looking at if 742 00:30:56,679 --> 00:31:00,799 we can get docks in in this June July 743 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,559 time frame it might make it worth it to 744 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,799 put them in next year the arena will be 745 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,200 substantially complete you're going to 746 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480 be working inside but we do not want to 747 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,440 put docks in towards the end of the 748 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,760 season because it's a lot of work to put 749 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,159 them in you're using them for 3 weeks 750 00:31:15,159 --> 00:31:17,320 then we close so the timing of it is 751 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,600 fluid of when we're really going to get 752 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,080 it in uh the plaza similarly Plaza a lot 753 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000 of this is going to be uh driven by the 754 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200 arena which is adjacent CU we don't want 755 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240 to build a plaza and have a construction 756 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,600 site around it we like to do and the 757 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,320 hotel hasn't even started yet so we have 758 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 bi-weekly coordination meetings with 759 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,360 gesi and the hotel and these are the 760 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760 things that we're tracking so right now 761 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,559 say it's a similar path but this doesn't 762 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,880 have as long as the lead time is 763 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,159 constructing of a dock uh and I guess in 764 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:48,840 conclusion I guess is just want to get 765 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,919 out there that we're going to have a 766 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:52,840 public meeting Wednesday the 26 4:30 at 767 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,559 the Landing Hotel we chose the Landing 768 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:55,880 Hotel because we were looking for a 769 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360 place on site somewhere we're trying to 770 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,039 get people involved the problem with a 771 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,639 project like this is It's essentially 772 00:32:01,639 --> 00:32:04,159 for transient people um you know the 773 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:05,559 people that will be using the facility 774 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,440 the most are not residents uh residents 775 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,240 will use it for fishing and things like 776 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,200 that but we do want to hear from people 777 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,559 so we're looking at having a public 778 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:17,240 meeting uh 4:30 uh at the landing and 779 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080 then um like I said I think it's a great 780 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,000 project it's has a lot of fingers in 781 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360 everything else um and I'm looking 782 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,399 forward to getting people's comments on 783 00:32:27,399 --> 00:32:30,760 uh I the other thing that is it is 784 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760 expandable um 360 ft is what we can 785 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,360 afford today if we find that the amenity 786 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200 is used and utilized we'll have to look 787 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,720 at expanding uh the do you can expand it 788 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,679 uh to the north of the 789 00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:50,990 river so 790 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 questions I think it's a terrific 791 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,399 project I mean I think it's something 792 00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:56,039 that we've been waiting for you know in 793 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,480 terms of the initial design of the 794 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720 entire Mohawk Harbor and um I'm excited 795 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600 I'm very excited about it so looking 796 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,960 forward to seeing its completion and 797 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120 there might be people in the apartments 798 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,799 down there that might want some of the 799 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,559 do space that are residents in other 800 00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:13,360 words yep and so we were going to have 801 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,320 the meeting in the harbor house but we 802 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,440 thought if we had it there it would be 803 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,960 too convenient and we would overwhelm 804 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880 their community room so um our our 805 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,320 partner our friends at gie and Metroplex 806 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,440 we arranging the the uh the hotel which 807 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,279 has a larger space for us to be able to 808 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,519 use and this is really going to be a 809 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,320 partnership project unique to what we've 810 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,639 ever done because the the city will be 811 00:33:33,639 --> 00:33:36,279 the owner of the Docks but we already 812 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:38,080 have a memorandum of understanding with 813 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,519 the with the gesi group to help you know 814 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,279 operate the docks we're going to have to 815 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,039 store the docks these docks canot be out 816 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:45,639 in the winter time they'll be floated 817 00:33:45,639 --> 00:33:48,120 and stored uh within the harbor we're 818 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,559 believing um you know we have uh the Dr 819 00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:52,880 that we're working on like I said 820 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,639 Danielle's here for you know show the 821 00:33:54,639 --> 00:33:57,000 support of Metroplex uh with these 822 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880 projects and and uh I we really think 823 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,880 that it could be a great way to just 824 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,480 promote the city to the Waterfront 825 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,240 Community because we're just very 826 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,720 uniquely we're uniquely positioned on 827 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,839 both the river and the bike path and 828 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,800 this is the river and the bike path 829 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,839 together so that's 830 00:34:14,839 --> 00:34:17,399 great s are you anticipating any 831 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:21,119 concerns from the public um I'm not I I 832 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:22,399 really don't 833 00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,560 have because the way everything came 834 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,800 together uh the original plan like I 835 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,760 showed you when we were little more the 836 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,480 parking was a little farther away the 837 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,119 path was a little longer things were a 838 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,359 little bit but with the the new spot 839 00:34:34,359 --> 00:34:36,760 where we are with the drop off and the 840 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,879 parking and the way it kind of 841 00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:40,720 integrates into the site I I I really 842 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,480 think it's a it's a wi I really like it 843 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,679 um I don't see what people would I 844 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:46,599 haven't figured out what people would 845 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:48,800 push back on yet other than they don't 846 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,119 want big boats but you know they're not too noisy and they're in the 847 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,200 river so I and this is a commercial area 848 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,839 there's not you know that's not a 849 00:34:56,839 --> 00:34:58,520 condominium it's not an apartment 850 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,599 building it's a hotel um so I I think I 851 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,870 think it will be 852 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000 positive well thank you any answer my 853 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,599 question was not own it you said to so 854 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:12,079 this is just for right now for secret 855 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:13,760 purposes you know for sending out the 856 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,240 letters and all that we'd like the the 857 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,480 city to declare a lead Agency on this 858 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,800 project and then we're going to move 859 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,839 forward with our uh determination and 860 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:23,480 reaching out to all the interested 861 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,000 parties so I just wanted to kind of loop 862 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,240 you guys into 863 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,800 information before thank you for that 864 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,040 any 865 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,240 questions a motion so move second all 866 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:38,400 those in favor thank you 867 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Mr all right item number five VAP and 868 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,790 smoke shop uh zoning ordinance 869 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,720 Miss okay it's okay uh Miss president 870 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,400 I'll take I'll take this um in your 871 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,720 package this past week you've got a 872 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:00,040 revised uh uh uh ordinance um the 873 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,839 comments came back Pur sooning to the uh 874 00:36:02,839 --> 00:36:05,880 General Municipal law from the county uh 875 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,280 Planning Commission with their comments 876 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,240 and uh there were uh uh which are 877 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,720 highlighted in in the package I gave you 878 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:20,079 in red um and that 879 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,400 uh they just had a couple of questions 880 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,240 really minor minor revisions to the 881 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:30,760 overall text of the uh of the proposed 882 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,470 ordinance 883 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,280 um the uh minor edits and comments of 884 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,160 the pros ordinance were attached the 885 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640 Reds the Reds uh were the items that 886 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,200 were deleted the yellow items are the 887 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800 ones that were the suggested language um 888 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,160 they had a couple of questions in the 889 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,079 definition section um what was added 890 00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,280 what was included in there is some uh 891 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,680 medical marijuana and another Mar want a 892 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,560 uh a definition they said it's not not 893 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920 in the rest of the the code the reason 894 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,079 those were put in there in case you ever 895 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,760 want to build off of this particular 896 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,000 section of the code regarding cannabis 897 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,480 operations so those definitions are 898 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,920 already in there and that's how come 899 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,560 it's not referenced in there but in case 900 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560 you ever want to build off of it 901 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839 definitions are already included and 902 00:37:22,839 --> 00:37:25,119 then in the last part of this the last 903 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,920 page uh dealing with the uh ammonization 904 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,160 um uh oversight on my part that language 905 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,760 came from our City Zoning code dealing 906 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040 with adult establishments um that that 907 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,160 reference wasn't deleted it should have 908 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,680 been was deleted um regarding the issue 909 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,280 of amortization I know there was some 910 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,119 discussion on this on this the last time 911 00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:51,000 and what it means is that if you adopt 912 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,160 this ordinance you the the vape shops 913 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,760 that are in those areas that you've 914 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,640 declared them not to be legal um would 915 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,480 have one year to wrap up their business 916 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,119 now if they wish to extend past that one 917 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,119 year then they would have to go to the 918 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,760 zoning board of appeals to prevent uh 919 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,880 financial information as to why this 920 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,240 would be a hardship and they they can't 921 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,160 abide by that onee uh deadline so 922 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,880 there's an appeal process through the 923 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,240 zoning board of appeals that language is from as I indicated from our zoning 924 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,920 code dealing with adult businesses so 925 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000 that same type of appeal process is 926 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,800 already in our code and it's just placed 927 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,520 into this uh section regarding Vapes 928 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,720 shops smoke shops Etc in the alternative 929 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:45,040 if you just wanted to not get into that 930 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,680 and and just have these establishments 931 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,760 stay past that one year then they' 932 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,720 become a legal non-conforming use what 933 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,640 does that mean they can stay as long as 934 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440 they're continuing an operation as a 935 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,800 vape shop but if if they vacated it then 936 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,920 whoever came in would not it's not zoned 937 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,359 for that particular 938 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:08,800 use so if you want you know it can be 939 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,839 the language there can be changed in 940 00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:11,920 which it will become a legal 941 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,079 non-conforming use for after one year um 942 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,040 or on the alternative you know keep that 943 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,839 language 944 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:24,640 regarding mization in there uh for for 945 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,319 uh for it so it's really up you but it's your option I know there was 946 00:39:29,319 --> 00:39:31,520 concern discussion last time so I just 947 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,870 want to flex that a little a little 948 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,560 bit so I I I do have a concern about you 949 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,119 know after a year saying you have to 950 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,680 prove that you're financially that you 951 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,960 need to stay here so um I essentially 952 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,160 think that's that's that's an 953 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,640 opportunity for us to put people on the 954 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,440 business where they currently are if 955 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,599 they're there legally so um I I have 956 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,760 concern about that and I think that I'm 957 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,960 just to have them stay with the um then allowing them to be there and 958 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,079 not have to come before the zoning board 959 00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,280 every year is is the way that I would 960 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,440 prer that we approach this particular um 961 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,920 uh situation with these establishments 962 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,359 but obviously input from the other 963 00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:17,670 council 964 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,480 members I mean the language we could use 965 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,200 I mean if we wanted if you wanted to go 966 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,920 down that route and delete that 967 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,560 particular portion it would be that all 968 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040 such facilities or establishment 969 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520 lawfully actually operating open to the 970 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,839 public on the date of the adoption of 971 00:40:32,839 --> 00:40:34,800 this particular order shall be permitted 972 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,640 to continue as a legal non-conforming 973 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,720 use and all others will be declared 974 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,720 unlawful prohibited so and our Zone law 975 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,680 deals with nonperforming uses and what 976 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,240 if they're discontinued 977 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,359 it it would if there's a discontinuance 978 00:40:50,359 --> 00:40:52,520 if it's not continuous operating then it 979 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,319 would revert to it would be a 980 00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:58,160 non-conforming use the new outfit 981 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Mr Williams So to that point is the 982 00:41:00,359 --> 00:41:02,280 non-conforming use extended to the 983 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040 business or to the business owner youan 984 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,599 if the business no it's the business a 985 00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,760 jobs or meant to to like a singular 986 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,480 business it's the type of business 987 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,960 that's gone in 988 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,760 there it's it's the type of business and and in the definition the definition 989 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,119 section covers all that so I I know it's 990 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,839 it would be the type of business okay 991 00:41:28,839 --> 00:41:31,040 thank 992 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,960 you so suggestion is to keep the current 993 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,480 language that we have we're not putting 994 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,880 them out to business it's just they will 995 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,240 have to move up the year into so approve 996 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,119 the approved area that is zoned for this 997 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,880 so I think there is opportunity for them 998 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000 to kind of like work until they are 999 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,760 ready to move into the approv area 1000 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,640 and that is own for for V and smoke 1001 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,680 shops so I I think what comes into play 1002 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,960 here is how many vape shops are there 1003 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,720 how much room is there in these um in 1004 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,920 these approved areas because we have a 1005 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,440 there's a distance right they they have 1006 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,640 to stay apart so if we're limiting the 1007 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,319 area and within that area we're limiting 1008 00:42:15,319 --> 00:42:17,800 the proximity that could impact 1009 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,559 businesses if there's enough businesses 1010 00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:21,040 like and then we run out of space what 1011 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,240 happens to those individuals so those 1012 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,720 you know are are also part of my 1013 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,760 concerns because if we do that and 1014 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,800 essentially somebody would have may have 1015 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,760 to go at business 1016 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,400 so well they're allow to for a year 1017 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000 extension they would have to they would 1018 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,040 be allowed to operate from one year from 1019 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,240 the from the when you adopt this 1020 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:48,079 ordinance say July 15th or whatever one 1021 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,760 year they can continue after that one 1022 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,400 year if they wish to remain in business 1023 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680 um a form would need to be developed for 1024 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,760 the go before the zoning board of 1025 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,440 appeals for them to demonstrate 1026 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,240 financial hardship as as to why they 1027 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,720 should be allowed to operate for a 1028 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,200 period of time after the end of the 1029 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,559 after the after that uh oneyear period 1030 00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:13,359 in their current position in their 1031 00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:18,670 current 1032 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,839 position well last count there were 39 1033 00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:25,960 smoke shops um in the city plus we know 1034 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,359 that more have developed and popped up 1035 00:43:28,359 --> 00:43:32,960 and um don't have proper um you know AR 1036 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440 aren't properly documented on the books 1037 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,800 to even operate so I noticed one the 1038 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,559 other day with with the windows were all 1039 00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,440 sealed up and it's got a big sign in in 1040 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,960 the window 8m but it's the dragons or 1041 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,680 it's a smoke shop but anyway um so I I'm 1042 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920 in in in agreeance with to leaving it 1043 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,440 that you know they'd have to come before 1044 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,079 the board of appeals to uh keep their 1045 00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,200 position uh if they can prove it's 1046 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,960 hardship but other than that as far as 1047 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,839 um we we don't need six in one block um 1048 00:44:02,839 --> 00:44:04,839 so I I do like you know how things are 1049 00:44:04,839 --> 00:44:07,960 going to be um stated in the moratorium 1050 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,839 I'm I'm sorry I'm off for small business 1051 00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:12,240 I'm a small business but um you know we 1052 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,880 have we have a lot of Youth out there um 1053 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,800 that are walking by these smoke shops 1054 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,400 and and I'm just not in favor of them um 1055 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,720 there's more than enough places that 1056 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,440 they'll be able to establish their 1057 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,400 business I don't know if there's nor 1058 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,599 than enough places I don't know have if 1059 00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,839 we've done what the what if we moved all 1060 00:44:28,839 --> 00:44:32,000 39 to this to what's to what's would be 1061 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520 available um to what we're zoning it for 1062 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,000 I don't know that there's enough place 1063 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,480 so I I do have that concern about 1064 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800 someone not being able to I 1065 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,720 don't not being able to um to continue 1066 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,119 with their business whether it's a 1067 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,559 business that I approve her or not 1068 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:48,640 that's not really why I'm here it's it's 1069 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,720 if it's a legal business and they're you 1070 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:51,599 know it's something that they can 1071 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:55,760 legally do but I don't uh I I don't do 1072 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,440 that me 1073 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,839 I think that we should just go with leg 1074 00:44:58,839 --> 00:45:00,760 and non-conforming that's that's how I 1075 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:07,790 see 1076 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640 this Mr the last summer we discussed 1077 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,319 this we were talking about the 40% um 1078 00:45:13,319 --> 00:45:17,119 allow for it 1079 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,119 yeah yes there was no comment from the the County planning on that amount 1080 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:23,880 and uh the 1081 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,200 40% the 40% is still in right um because 1082 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,599 they have not met yet they that the city 1083 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:33,200 plan that City Planning they were not 1084 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,829 able to take that take that 1085 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:41,920 off 1086 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:43,599 [Music] 1087 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:47,559 so and um I think Mr Mr Brian said if 1088 00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,200 they because they didn't have anything 1089 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,440 official and I asked for something 1090 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,040 official they didn't have anything so 1091 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,040 they won take it up until the next 1092 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,720 meeting and if they do then it's 1093 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,720 certainly something that we could amend 1094 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,160 they came up with a 1095 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,200 specific um percentage and a reason why 1096 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,400 they came up with that specific 1097 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,400 percentage I mean if they could come up 1098 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,599 with a percentage they could bring it 1099 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,520 before you as a as as a transmittal and 1100 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400 saying that the their number is whatever 1101 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640 and then you would have the opportunity 1102 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200 to amend the ordinance if you so desire 1103 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,559 at that 1104 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,520 point yes I I think president cter field 1105 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,480 and I even we agreed on the fact that 1106 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,200 you know whatever they want to put in 1107 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,319 their shop or or you know the 40% was 1108 00:46:29,319 --> 00:46:35,200 you know we didn't have an issue with them you know keeping that at 40% 1109 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000 um you know they have a shop they can 1110 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,599 sell everything legally in there 1111 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:41,400 whatever they want and whoever's going 1112 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000 into the shop is going in there for a 1113 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,480 specific reason anyway um for products 1114 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,240 and so I don't think there was an issue 1115 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,960 with the percentage of of the space 1116 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,599 inside the building what they could 1117 00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,960 sell yes 1118 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,079 so they were suggesting the members from 1119 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:02,160 the zoning 1120 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,160 board Planning Commission 1121 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,440 25% is that no they never gave a number 1122 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,480 the other localities have gone down to 1123 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,480 20 20 25% that was just as a as a 1124 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,559 reference point but I don't think we did 1125 00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,640 not get a hard number from the uh City 1126 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,920 Planning Commission Co So currently it's 1127 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,280 40 it's 40% in the draft okay other 1128 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:40,950 display area 1129 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,520 yes Mr Williams so I think I'm just 1130 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,480 being transparent with my thoughts uh as 1131 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,280 everyone else has been uh I I I find 1132 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,599 myself citing more with Miss Doro and I 1133 00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:51,680 understand that there are going to be 1134 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,960 intend consequences of like our actions 1135 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,319 where 39 is a rather large number um I 1136 00:47:57,319 --> 00:47:59,079 think my only hesitation with the 1137 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,119 non-conformances and then correct me if 1138 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,119 I'm wrong it would only apply to 1139 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:04,280 individuals that were in that quote 1140 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,200 unquote good standing so if you had 1141 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,480 individuals that weren't uh putting in 1142 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,800 place like the proper marketing for 1143 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,400 square footage like I would no it it 1144 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,559 would be anybody could put in put in 1145 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,319 request to the zoning board of appeals 1146 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:17,880 because it's looking at dollars and 1147 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,400 cents proof as to whether or not they're 1148 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,800 uh you know they put they put in a 1149 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,720 substantial Financial 1150 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,640 expenditure related to the nonconformity 1151 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,000 and that that the the closing down would would have would have a financial 1152 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,160 impact upon them so it's a continuation 1153 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,520 you could essentially have businesses 1154 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,079 continuing on without making any 1155 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,680 adjustments I don't understand the 1156 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,559 question well we're highlighting wanting 1157 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,599 to adjust the behavior so I applied for 1158 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,240 a 1159 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:56,280 non-conformance to not have to like 1160 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,440 alter we business yeah you would what no 1161 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,119 what you're saying to the Zone board of 1162 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,319 appeals I'm at this 1163 00:49:03,319 --> 00:49:06,760 street the the deadline has come down I 1164 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,160 have in I I've invested x amount of 1165 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,799 dollars into this therefore I feel that 1166 00:49:13,799 --> 00:49:16,839 it I should expend more I should the 1167 00:49:16,839 --> 00:49:23,470 deadline should not apply to me and that way I should stay 1168 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,520 longer because it's impacting me 1169 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,680 financially 1170 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,720 Mr M did you have no I was going to ask 1171 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,280 uh add to that so really you stay longer 1172 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,720 in term is there a time to Reco their it 1173 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,319 would it would be it would really depend 1174 00:49:39,319 --> 00:49:42,520 on a Case by case basis of how much they 1175 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,480 put in how long they've been there 1176 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,440 dollars and cents proof provided to 1177 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,960 Theon board of appeals so this one like 1178 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,079 they can go on for another year it would 1179 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,839 all depend all depends yeah it all 1180 00:49:53,839 --> 00:50:01,630 depends 1181 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,160 and it would be the prior to the 1182 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,880 non-conformity the non-conforming is one 1183 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480 year in other words those individuals 1184 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,240 that that put into their put the 1185 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,559 business in 1186 00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:19,079 really um said we've had the uh The Vape 1187 00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,680 Shop moratorium since uh March it would 1188 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,079 be you see that it would be a longer 1189 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:27,240 period of time so a longer period of 1190 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,720 time it would be indicate that they 1191 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:31,160 would have more return on their 1192 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,160 investment because the non-conformity 1193 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,240 would occur July 15th M but presumably 1194 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,000 they've been work in had their business 1195 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,359 there prior to when you accept it's had 1196 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:47,559 the moratorium put in place back in 1197 00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:59,150 March the legal businesses right 1198 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,599 so that seems to be the only sticking 1199 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:04,359 point are we moving second are we I'm 1200 00:51:04,359 --> 00:51:05,640 happy to move 1201 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,920 this are we moving it tonight y yeah 1202 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,400 we're ready to we have I mean as amended 1203 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,440 it can go forward and put the new 1204 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,480 language in the red language deleted the 1205 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,000 yellow Lang just so you know um so our 1206 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,240 where you I know that are they're not in 1207 00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:24,520 college so you don't know what language 1208 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,400 is being deleted which language I read 1209 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,520 it 1210 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880 yeah it's it's 1211 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,760 bracketed 1212 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,559 Sor it's bracketed it's highlighted may 1213 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:39,599 not be yellow but it's high yeah 1214 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:43,079 yes Mr M so I'm in favor of keeping the 1215 00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,079 language that is point through here and 1216 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:46,920 let these business come back before the 1217 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,040 zoning board um to kind of like discuss 1218 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,799 their financial um you know at a plus or 1219 00:51:53,799 --> 00:51:56,680 minus and and B would allow them to like 1220 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,480 extend give them an extension to 1221 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,960 continue the business until they can 1222 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:03,240 recove um their expenditure because the 1223 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,280 sole purpose of us is to centralize 1224 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,000 these business in approv zoning area so 1225 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,200 if we were to say it will change it back 1226 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,079 and put it it doesn't serve any purpose 1227 00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,839 so we're doing here right I agree the 1228 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:17,960 sole purpose was to to to uh to 1229 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,880 centralize them in one 1230 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,799 area uh that's you know we kind of tried 1231 00:52:23,799 --> 00:52:25,920 to do that a while back with the um what 1232 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,799 with those adult shops and I that that 1233 00:52:28,799 --> 00:52:29,960 turned out to be a problem I don't know 1234 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,119 if you remember that you would probably 1235 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:35,119 be the only one that would um 1236 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:40,079 so um so and and we were also if I 1237 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:41,960 remember correctly one of the main 1238 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,880 reasons for this was 1239 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,880 to start to kind of um take a look at 1240 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,280 businesses that are operating on with 1241 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,760 not they're not uh operating in 1242 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,839 compliance with what the you know City's 1243 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:59,040 rules expectations are and and this 1244 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,640 moratorium was to kind of stop the from 1245 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,920 popping up all over the place where we 1246 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,520 can manage what was in front of us right 1247 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,599 like so that okay right um and and with 1248 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,839 that so mayor in terms of the 1249 00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:14,079 enforcement and for those that are legal 1250 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,680 versus illegal do we have any type of 1251 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,760 update on the on of the 39 is what M Tor 1252 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,140 says but I kind of think your number's 1253 00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:24,119 [Music] 1254 00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,240 low uh seen an updated the enforcement 1255 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:29,640 we can put that together and you have it 1256 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,040 two weeks or get it out to you you by 1257 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,680 the end of the week the beginning of 1258 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:43,789 next 1259 00:53:43,799 --> 00:53:47,040 week any other thing for me um and I 1260 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,440 guess I would ask this view mayor as 1261 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,160 well if someone can map it out um if we 1262 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,520 have it mapped out where they currently 1263 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,760 exist as 1264 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,880 well those are 1265 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,359 we did it's not updated I don't just 1266 00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:02,440 updated updated but we did get the map 1267 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,680 well like you said this she said there's 1268 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,200 more popping up and just um yeah the 1269 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,880 neighborhoods that they in 1270 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,190 so 1271 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,599 okay so you're suggesting that we just 1272 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,280 move ahead with it as it currently is 1273 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,520 and let them um come before The Zing Bo 1274 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,640 yes that is what I'm suggesting we move 1275 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,319 as Z and this this language with the 1276 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:30,559 language that's currently before us as 1277 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:34,040 amend and um mrri when would they have 1278 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,359 to when with this from July 15th until 1279 00:54:36,359 --> 00:54:37,720 July 15th 1280 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:41,559 2025 is whenever the you know it has to 1281 00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:43,960 pass the the council so we and when the 1282 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,240 mayor signs it and the resol as the 1283 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:48,000 ordinance says this this ordinance take 1284 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,280 shall take effect immediately so upon 1285 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,079 the mayor's signature or 10 days 1286 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,680 whatever that is pursuant to the code 1287 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,760 that will be the of the year will start 1288 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,640 at that point okay and if for some 1289 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,440 reason this obviously doesn't work out 1290 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,799 we could always come back in langage if 1291 00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:06,520 you ever want to revisit it like any 1292 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,040 ordinance you can always bring this back 1293 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,280 if it's not not if you want to revisit 1294 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,520 it at any time you can put back on and 1295 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,440 if you want to amend it there will be 1296 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,599 another public hearing or you just want 1297 00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,640 to have a discussion on that certainly 1298 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,440 it can always be 1299 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,119 Revisited okay 1300 00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:31,640 I'm motion move and I'll 1301 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,280 second so I will just make the statement 1302 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,280 that um I will um support this however 1303 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,839 if people come to us and say there's a 1304 00:55:38,839 --> 00:55:41,079 hardship then I would want this brought 1305 00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,200 before this Council to be Revisited I 1306 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,599 don't want to put a hardship on any 1307 00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:47,720 small businesses so with that Cav H all 1308 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:51,039 in favor I I Madam chair uh M Madam 1309 00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:52,559 president that that could always be the 1310 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,079 case if you want to revisit that 1311 00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:55,640 language in the last portion of the 1312 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,079 ordinance and along the discussion items 1313 00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,200 we've talked about earlier and just one 1314 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,319 other item it's a it's a type two Seeker 1315 00:56:03,319 --> 00:56:09,960 action yes and I would just ask that also that resolution that what yes 1316 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,200 it is is it on there 1317 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,280 it's we have there's a Seeker resolution 1318 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,079 yeah we'll have the SE it's right here 1319 00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,520 right page 159 page 1320 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,000 159 the a resolution declaring is a type 1321 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,720 two action 1322 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:35,789 159 is the packet 1323 00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:38,920 yeah so you need that as to declare yes 1324 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,680 it's a I'm saying it's not on the agenda 1325 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:45,829 that's what I said yes thank 1326 00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:52,789 you 1327 00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:55,760 okay okay so we uh so the the next item 1328 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,119 is to 1329 00:56:57,119 --> 00:56:59,960 um declare the adoption of the ordinance 1330 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:04,720 creating section 264-1111 of the code um 1331 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:06,440 is not subject to environmental review 1332 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,119 of the state quality review act so give 1333 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:12,920 me that resolution move it second all in 1334 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,510 favor 1335 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,200 I thank you thank you madam president 1336 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,240 thank you mran and um just um Mr ran 1337 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,480 have this and I have this quick 1338 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,039 conversation when we're um at the 1339 00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:27,520 legislative conference about the 1340 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,240 um incoming cannabis shops and that we 1341 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,119 should at some point maybe even talk 1342 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:35,400 about the um how that works in the 1343 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,160 zoning of that as you can see we have 1344 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,200 the new people's joint on State Street 1345 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,400 that's the name of it I didn't make it 1346 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,119 up 1347 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:47,039 John um so and there's um I checked with 1348 00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:48,520 the office of Canabis management and 1349 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,559 there's at least three more that are 1350 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:54,240 pending um and are prepared to come 1351 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,880 within the city so um I don't know that 1352 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,440 there's a limit on how many we can have 1353 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,559 so that's a question so just so you know 1354 00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:04,880 that's a that's a question I'm going to 1355 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,920 be asking the office can management I 1356 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,440 don't I couldn't find anywhere where 1357 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,200 there was a limit on how many 1358 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400 applications and currently I can't 1359 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,960 remember the number that we have but we 1360 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,680 have quite a few applications that have 1361 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,960 come through the clerk's office saying 1362 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,520 they they want to be here and they've 1363 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,400 given the various addresses where they 1364 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,480 want to be so um I'll be following up on 1365 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,039 that and making the council aware 1366 00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:28,680 Madam president you want to discuss that 1367 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,160 next time in two weeks okay that would 1368 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,160 be 1369 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:38,950 uh 131 of the Cannabis law 1370 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,069 okay 1371 00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:46,039 thank all right thank you um the next 1372 00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:48,280 item is the discussion of rules of deor 1373 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,720 during City Council meetings uh we came 1374 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,680 up with these rules a while ago and I'm 1375 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,400 not asking for anything to be um I'm not 1376 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,039 asking any rules to be changed or 1377 00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,119 anything but what I am would like to see 1378 00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:03,400 is um we put those out there but nowhere 1379 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,760 does it state that once you sign up that 1380 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,160 you're willing to abide by those rules 1381 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,319 so I just wanted to add that 1382 00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:13,160 statement um so that there's some level 1383 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,359 of enforcement if that's the term you 1384 00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:16,839 want to use so they're right there 1385 00:59:16,839 --> 00:59:18,599 before you as they currently stand but 1386 00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:20,839 just adding number 17 that says by 1387 00:59:20,839 --> 00:59:23,720 signing up to speak that you agree to 1388 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,510 adhere to the the Corum of the council 1389 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,039 meetings so maybe add that to the sign 1390 00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:33,559 up um sheets well the sign up sheets 1391 00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,200 already have all of these on here but 1392 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,039 that statement yes and just adding that 1393 00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:41,760 to what's already there right mhm 1394 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,920 yes yeah 1395 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,640 I'm that's it for that so do we need to 1396 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,920 move a motion for that I think we do so 1397 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880 move I'm sorry but then should it 1398 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,880 include like specific language saying if 1399 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,640 you don't like you're relinquishing your 1400 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,520 ability to use this platform is that 1401 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,069 what we're implying or is 1402 01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:04,119 that I'm sorry can you say that again 1403 01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:05,440 does it also need to include like 1404 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,000 specific language that states you're not 1405 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,799 adhering to this means that you're 1406 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,680 relinquishing your ability to speak at 1407 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,880 this point well I think number 16 kind 1408 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,280 of um covered that that we'll remove I I 1409 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,760 um I think we' have to look a little 1410 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,799 further into um whether or not we could 1411 01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:27,960 say that 1412 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,079 specifically Mr you want 1413 01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:34,200 talk sure was there a question it was it 1414 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,440 was regarding the the acknowledg the 1415 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,520 acknowledgement or whether that it could 1416 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,039 be uh uh whether you could enforce it to 1417 01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:44,559 the point where people so vacate their 1418 01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:50,160 or wave their ability to speak if we if we said okay when you write when 1419 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,520 you sign this you a knowledge will go by 1420 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,880 these rules what Mr Williams was asking 1421 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,559 is if we could add something that says 1422 01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:57,520 in if don't then you relinquish your 1423 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,960 ability to be able to have privilege of 1424 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,240 the floor 1425 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,680 ever I'm sorry is that what 1426 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,240 you're because well not forever but I 1427 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,440 mean for the for meeting I mean 1428 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,400 essentially if you have someone that 1429 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,160 disregards it what happens they keep 1430 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,960 going well I think I think Miss P I 1431 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,160 think Mr Farley had his hand up first so 1432 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:26,119 I oh yeah no I was just um just want to 1433 01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,440 be really careful about like as we're 1434 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,520 adding I think that that that's a fair 1435 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,680 suggestion say like you know by signing 1436 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,119 this you're acknowledging that that 1437 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,359 you're expected to act Within These data 1438 01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:40,400 parameters I just um as far as like 1439 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,359 consequences if you 1440 01:01:42,359 --> 01:01:44,960 will um we have to just be mindful you 1441 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,920 know we don't want to discourage people 1442 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,400 to you know after every time people come 1443 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,160 up the sweep we always thank them for 1444 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,119 their input um and I just want to make 1445 01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,480 sure that we encourage more of them and 1446 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,200 just be mindful that's all I guess I 1447 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,000 would say about like balancing that 1448 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,039 on what people's 1449 01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:07,640 U ability to come down and speak I think 1450 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,160 it's 1451 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,079 important I'm comfortable I yes this bar 1452 01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,960 um I would request and recommend uh that 1453 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,279 we do some legal review of that prior to 1454 01:02:20,279 --> 01:02:22,000 passing this 1455 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,599 forward wew that if they sign it that 1456 01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:28,000 they're adhering to it um yeah look into 1457 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,559 um the legalities of 1458 01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:33,400 that 1459 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,440 okay could you let us know in two weeks 1460 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,079 absolutely um and and I guess we need to 1461 01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:42,319 further discuss if we want to even 1462 01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:44,920 consider adding what Mr Williams has 1463 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,920 suggested Miss Patrick I think um that 1464 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,160 number I agree with you that number 16 1465 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,480 covers um a consequence but um so I 1466 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,359 think after Corporation Council has the 1467 01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:00,520 opportunity to review um but I think 1468 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,870 that does sort of State 1469 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,640 consequences um and I think yeah I I 1470 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,039 agree and I think that it's important 1471 01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:15,039 that we you know um let people know what the expectation is but um I am with 1472 01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,680 as Mr barley I'm kind of like want to be 1473 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,029 careful of the over 1474 01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:24,000 policing yes Mr Farley some I mean 1475 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,240 because some of the language I mean even 1476 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,279 though I think that we might have a 1477 01:03:28,279 --> 01:03:31,640 pretty clear well at least a we might be 1478 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,279 able to build consensus around what we 1479 01:03:33,279 --> 01:03:35,880 think is vulgar or inflammatory you know 1480 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,480 I think that something that you do 1481 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,680 really well is if if people seem to be 1482 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,880 Crossing that line you remind them and I 1483 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,960 think that what usually happens from 1484 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,279 what I have my experience when someone 1485 01:03:47,279 --> 01:03:50,599 says something um that might be closely 1486 01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:51,880 getting ready across that line you 1487 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,319 address them and then they uh are more 1488 01:03:55,319 --> 01:03:57,279 mindful in their words and I think that 1489 01:03:57,279 --> 01:03:59,319 that's important because I think they 1490 01:03:59,319 --> 01:04:01,240 want put something on paper saying if 1491 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,480 you do this then this is the consequence 1492 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,960 or maybe to some people some of the 1493 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,760 things that they might be saying might 1494 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,119 not be inflammatory and or threat right 1495 01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:13,640 we might perceive them differently so I 1496 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,920 like that at least 1497 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,640 that kind of uh guardrail of you just 1498 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,119 saying hey that's you're you know you're 1499 01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:23,599 getting close to this thing so I just 1500 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:25,079 think that that's important too and I 1501 01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:26,559 think that that might have to be in some 1502 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:29,160 language as well because that is really 1503 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,000 that might just be something that you do 1504 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,720 as you know as a matter of practice and 1505 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,960 not necessarily a matter of policy so I 1506 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,119 know we're talking about policy 1507 01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:41,200 here well again I think that it looks 1508 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,720 like five of us agreed to this um not 1509 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,359 saying that we wouldn't ever change our 1510 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:50,119 minds but um we we did vote for this and 1511 01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:52,920 you know it's it's pretty clear in terms 1512 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,680 of the language that's that's that's 1513 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,440 here and I agree that I think the 1514 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,200 council president um as you did last 1515 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,480 week for example you opened the meeting 1516 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,680 really kind of reminding people about um 1517 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,480 the public comment period um and then 1518 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,559 did you know kind of uh what's the word 1519 01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,520 I'm looking for Marshall uh the 1520 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,319 discussion um so I think that that's I 1521 01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:21,400 think what you're saying as well that um 1522 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,000 you know we do have that ability for the 1523 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,960 council president um to 1524 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680 make an announcement and then you know 1525 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,160 has the timer and has the ability to I 1526 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,839 think you've you know many times have 1527 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,200 said director comments here you have you 1528 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,520 have different statements or the council 1529 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,039 president has different statements that does sort of keep the 1530 01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:45,079 conversation going within you know 1531 01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:47,880 appropriateness appropriate 1532 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,400 guidelines so I'm I'm fine with just 1533 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,559 sing that one if um once we um make sure 1534 01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:57,279 that it's legally um okay okay did 1535 01:05:57,279 --> 01:06:01,079 you yes Mr yeah Madam president just a 1536 01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:03,599 question when you know they would be 1537 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,400 free to sign it or not sign it in other 1538 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,799 words that would that impact them being 1539 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:11,359 called or not yes no name no I can't 1540 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,680 call you so that would go for their sign 1541 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,359 signing yeah once you sign that's the 1542 01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:17,359 only that's how we know to call a person 1543 01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:19,680 up to speak and it also clearly states 1544 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,319 that once the meeting's begun you cannot 1545 01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:26,960 um then um be you know be to speak so 1546 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,720 your signature is what gets you gets 1547 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,720 your name called that's how we but we 1548 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,279 don't have right now have them signing 1549 01:06:32,279 --> 01:06:34,240 this type of document no no it's just 1550 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,240 the sign and Sheet the sign and sheet 1551 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,480 has this on it okay but it's not an 1552 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,839 acknowledgement you're looking for for 1553 01:06:40,839 --> 01:06:42,559 wording where it says this acknowledges 1554 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,960 you've read the above and BU as part of 1555 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,559 this yes okay as as part of where what 1556 01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:48,920 we already have just the last thing to 1557 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,319 say and signing this you agree to these 1558 01:06:51,319 --> 01:06:55,720 rules okay right and of course as we do 1559 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,319 any changes we'll just make sure that's 1560 01:06:57,319 --> 01:06:59,440 clear to the public okay um when they 1561 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,119 come okay M thank 1562 01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,640 you so we'll put the frames back well 1563 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:06,920 you'll let us know in two weeks whether 1564 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,319 it is or not we'll have the information 1565 01:07:09,319 --> 01:07:13,950 absolutely okay thank 1566 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,480 you okay 1567 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,400 um and the next item is just a reminder 1568 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,799 regarding the Amendments of the zoning 1569 01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:22,200 ordinance rela to the Hamilton Hill 1570 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,760 Redevelopment planning Redevelopment 1571 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,440 plan also referred to as 1572 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,839 0 and the public hearing is going to be 1573 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:31,920 on the 24th 1574 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:37,190 of um June so that's just a 1575 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,880 reminder the remainder of the items will 1576 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,119 have to be done in the executive 1577 01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:46,200 session so I ask for motion to go second 1578 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,920 session 1579 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,920 second all 1580 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,119 favor members of the public will have to 1581 01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:56,280 leave I don't think we 1582 01:07:56,290 --> 01:07:58,960 [Music] 1583 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,960 he