1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 first one would be who gets 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:11,230 go is it 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,440 just I'm just giving it a couple minutes 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:25,710 for deani and dorian's making some more 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,960 copies I'm just giving a couple minutes 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:49,549 for danani and 7 00:00:49,559 --> 00:01:13,960 did I take the wrong folder 8 00:01:13,970 --> 00:01:29,429 [Music] 9 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,710 great 10 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:41,220 oh 11 00:01:41,230 --> 00:01:43,560 [Music] 12 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,670 sorry I 13 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 do have to 14 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,320 get okay we'll start then we'll 15 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 start um and I'm sorry about the the 16 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,320 noise so I'll try to I'll try to talk 17 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,079 loud I can turn that off 18 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:04,479 it's just so hot i' have it on actually 19 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:06,039 last week I thought I was going to die 20 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:07,880 in here or whenever that was two weeks 21 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,520 ago um so it was great that the Pool 22 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,040 opened when it opened it was in the 23 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,400 middle of like a heatwave 24 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,680 sorry oh I'd like to I'd like to call 25 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Health and Recreation committee to order 26 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 thank you very much for being here um 27 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Josh are you taking minutes excellent so 28 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Doren is dorine and I are on the 29 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,760 committee and and John is a um 30 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,120 additional city council member and we 31 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,000 have three staff people so thank you 32 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,040 very much I'm glad you're taking minutes 33 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,800 um so the Pool opened um at the end of 34 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,360 June and it was in the middle of a heat 35 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,040 wve and thank goodness that it opened 36 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,200 when it opened that was a very good 37 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,920 decision and I appreciate that I was 38 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:53,000 away on vacation sitting by the PO sh at 39 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,400 that time um there are I what I've done 40 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,040 however I had been looking at a bunch of 41 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 rules prior to the pool open we have 42 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,519 some rules posted at the pool and and 43 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:07,159 Paul can talk to us a little bit about 44 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,519 that we ke and I both have photos of 45 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:12,680 that if um if you haven't been up there 46 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,200 um 47 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,959 but there's only there's only a few um 48 00:03:17,959 --> 00:03:19,920 rules that are listed on that sign at 49 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:21,599 the new pool right now it's something 50 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:25,799 like no firearms or knives no alcohol um 51 00:03:25,799 --> 00:03:27,519 no coolers no 52 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:30,840 coolers um so so I think there's some 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,200 other things that we might want to 54 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,920 consider um as you look through these um 55 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,239 then the other piece are fees um and 56 00:03:39,239 --> 00:03:40,640 you'll again you'll see as you look 57 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,799 through these that that varies as well 58 00:03:43,799 --> 00:03:47,000 um I'm kind of you know obviously um my 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,120 opinion is that I think that the pool 60 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,599 should be free to um residents um I'm not so sure that the pool should be 61 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:55,840 free to 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,239 nonresidents um and there's even the 63 00:03:58,239 --> 00:04:00,200 possibility that we can talk about about 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,079 whether 65 00:04:01,079 --> 00:04:03,760 non-residents um can use the pool I mean 66 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,120 we've had very long lines for the most 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,439 part so you'll see that some of the some 68 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:10,840 of the pools as you look through this 69 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,239 don't allow non-residents um I'm not 70 00:04:13,239 --> 00:04:15,120 sure if we want to do that I'm sorry 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,320 about the the Troy one is very minor um 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,919 South the pools in Troy right now are 73 00:04:20,919 --> 00:04:23,840 not even open um is my understanding 74 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,120 from looking at their website because of 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,160 Co um yeah because of the rise in Co 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,080 they've actually shut down some of their 77 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,240 at least that's what it says on their 78 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,600 website I didn't call anyone at any of 79 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,600 these places so what you have is Albany 80 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,680 Troy 81 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,280 um Mohawk River parking pool I can't 82 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:47,990 remember if that's or glenvill 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Muna 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,639 colony 85 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:56,870 gildin and that's 86 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,360 it that's as far as I went um in looking 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,960 at these I didn't think we needed more 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,000 than this I mean I have concern around 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,840 um I mean I'm definitely concerned about 90 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,639 um FAL matter in the pool so that has to 91 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,000 do with you know the kinds of diapers 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,199 that kids go on there's an overarching 93 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,280 thing which is again we have young 94 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,680 people that are our lifeguards um so in 95 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,560 terms of enforcing it might be difficult 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,199 for them to enforce some of this stuff 97 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:29,759 so um so we really have to think this 98 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:32,319 through but Paul did you want to share 99 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:33,880 some of the things that you've been 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,759 observing and 101 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:39,280 hearing life c a great J boys ands does 102 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:43,960 do a very good job um when it comes 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,560 to trying to OB the goals when I went 104 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,160 there this afternoon was one 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,120 alteration sometimes kids just don't 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,600 like to obey Authority and it's tough 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,080 because life cards are just life cards 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,680 they're in their V Su they don't really 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,400 feel they have authority they try 110 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,280 one police officer that's there come in 111 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:05,759 and talk to him and then there a little 112 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,199 bit of shouting out kid got of course 113 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:10,240 the mother came over and got very mouthy 114 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,759 to the police officer and then it come 115 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:15,960 out you know but um you they were trying 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,120 to do something at the deep 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,840 end youth kep jumping in out the pool I 118 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:23,759 think 119 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:26,400 it's you know you're going to have the 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,599 same things at all the there's going to 121 00:06:28,599 --> 00:06:30,240 be some 122 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,759 that just want to plck the RO a little 123 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,240 bit uh Ro balls are doing good one thing 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,720 that I hear a lot is on a real hot days 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,240 when there was a lne people couldn't get 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,520 they and that's unfortunate but we do 127 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,919 have a um you know a low limit in the 128 00:06:46,919 --> 00:06:50,280 pool is y people 129 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,240 so sometimes there is a little bit of a 130 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,520 wait to get into the pool um and uh the 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,680 people who were outside for residents 132 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,400 because they feel they had to wait they 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,720 don't know who's in there for 134 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,520 nonresidents they're waiting so those 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,960 are decision Council have to decide on 136 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,120 whether or not like you said you 137 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,680 restrict it to just you know City 138 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,560 residents in charge of fee 139 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,639 um you know about what the time is I 140 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,400 mean I've seen clients out there 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,840 multiple days I'm 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,960 thinking today was no wai the mother's 143 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,199 cooling off now you know it's not like 144 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:35,319 it was two weeks ago when we 90 M was 145 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:37,520 everybody want to get in the pool and it 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,560 was the new fact that's right everybody 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 want to and everything we hear about the 148 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,680 pool everybody loves the yes it's 149 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,720 gorgeous it's just you 150 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,000 know number of people can allow wom a 151 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 railro day that's 152 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,759 the so I was wondering about that in 153 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:01,199 terms of um the 400 person limit and 154 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,960 somebody so is it the two people that 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,639 are at the front desk there that if 156 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:07,680 somebody leaves how do they how they 157 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,120 have a counter and they actually have to 158 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,280 give an ID and sign in so we know who's 159 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,520 in the yes sign that you know if one or 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,800 two come out and they leaving then two 161 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,199 in the 162 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,639 line what if someone's not swimming it's 163 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:25,000 all capacity 400 they the that it's hard 164 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,360 because there are some people for in 165 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,159 there that you know they're not so 166 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:29,159 they're there with your children and 167 00:08:29,159 --> 00:08:30,400 they're 168 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,039 you know they're there because you have 169 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:33,599 to have an ad adult on the deck and 170 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:36,640 there's some you know dads and moms that 171 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,560 are just standing there watching the 172 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,120 kids SM we know they're not they're not 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,240 in but they still PR I'd have to check 174 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,640 on how and and it's more understand it's 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,000 the number of 176 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,200 lifeguards based on the number of people 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,080 inside the fence so if you're you know 178 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,519 you're standing there sup tie you could 179 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,870 jump in the pool 180 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,000 not likely to 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,519 happen Mo I thought 182 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,320 about we can do it that's what but that is a good point because I've 183 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,720 thought about just going over with a 184 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,760 chair and a book you know but um you 185 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,640 have to sit out true it's true it's true 186 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,760 um and this in the 400 is for safety 187 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,000 because that is different with the walls 188 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,720 so left cards have to be all on the PO 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,440 so they can see you know if somebody is 190 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,839 against the wall in circle where the old 191 00:09:29,839 --> 00:09:32,440 pool is the visibility was a lot 192 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,440 different because there's no wall right 193 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,079 you can see so the 400 is limit for so 194 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:40,000 let me ask something on with the old 195 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,240 pool were there rules like this at all 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,760 and also at qu and Bush at Front Street 197 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,360 do they have this I mean obviously 198 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,880 they're not probably not getting 400 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,560 people but I mean basically the rules 200 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:53,680 would be the same whole department rules 201 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,519 are the same about replicating and 202 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:59,640 urinating and having a you know 203 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,839 swimming diaper um but you can't watch 204 00:10:02,839 --> 00:10:04,040 everybody when they're on dressing with 205 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,440 their children and when you see it you 206 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,920 go over and say something we only have 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,640 to sh the PO down a couple times just an 208 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,640 that um the new yeah um but it it's 209 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,279 shortterm it's hour um you get it super 210 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:20,959 fated um little cool you know it's even 211 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:24,360 quicker because there's water there it 212 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,560 can be cleaned and so when you have had 213 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,480 to shut down the pool um I'm sorry sorry 214 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,800 I'm just learning you know today too but 215 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,320 um they have to leave the area vacate 216 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,829 the 217 00:10:38,839 --> 00:10:41,160 area and that's where it gets a little 218 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,240 bit 219 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 um know little more difficult with now 220 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,320 you got to get everybody out of the 221 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,800 pool and you know they have to they have 222 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,240 to go outside and wait till the pool 223 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:56,069 gets up they got to wait that hour till 224 00:10:56,079 --> 00:10:58,880 the so meanwhile let everybody just hang 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,839 and real 226 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:02,000 parents drop their kids off they don't 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,959 kids cellone call but it still creates a 228 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:07,639 mob scene you know certain age they have 229 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,680 to have the parent with them on 230 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:13,040 the no I I just want to pull up my photo 231 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,200 but um because I think there's only like 232 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,000 three or four rules posted right there's 233 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,600 two signs that are on one on the front 234 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,800 and back that are the blue 235 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,680 and white signs says warning tells you 236 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:32,480 two or more adults 18 years or older and you know no diving of this um and 237 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,639 then one on the back is the pool rules 238 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:38,519 what you're inside and it's full hours 239 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:41,320 the adult laps from hours capacity 400 240 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,560 people subject to change with the 241 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,399 Aquatic director's discretion waiting 242 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:48,800 times um a 30 minute wait after the last 243 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,880 slight sound of a storm and then there's 244 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,600 a 60 minute wait time to allow for 245 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,839 biological like I said for an hour it's 246 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:58,399 find the pool just biological issue um 247 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:02,279 no alcohol no no coolers no knives no 248 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:05,279 firearms um is that sign inside the pool 249 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,000 area yeah because I don't think I've 250 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,760 seen that sign so this one is in the 251 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,920 inside okay so there's actually a little 252 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,079 bit more on that than than on the one 253 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:16,120 outside then there's a life saving one 254 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,480 that has to be posted for the 255 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,360 911 um and then they have a lot of um 256 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,079 like paper rules like when the um visit 257 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:28,480 visitors come in when they come in they 258 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,120 sort of check in you have to sign you 259 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,399 have to show the ID right there's a lot 260 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:33,959 of papules I didn't grab pictures of 261 00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,240 that because there was kids all the 262 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,800 RO but I do know that um I did talk to 263 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Julie what we'll do in the next couple 264 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,800 days is get something to go on is 265 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,320 realize that we don't have our rules on 266 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,320 our website so um we should at least get 267 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,279 what's 268 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,639 posted on our website 269 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:56,680 M I actually and I I I'm sorry about 270 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:58,639 this I haven't seen that sign inside the 271 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:00,440 pool so so there actually were probably 272 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,399 more rules than I actually saw on that 273 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:05,839 sign that was outside the pool area 274 00:13:05,839 --> 00:13:07,720 which is as far as I you know I've been 275 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,279 there and I've been in to talk to the 276 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,560 people at the front desk but I haven't 277 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,839 actually well walked in obviously and 278 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:15,399 they have some like I said there's some 279 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,079 paper you know notices or signs you when 280 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:20,440 they come in 281 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,079 so okay um just a little bit of a 282 00:13:23,079 --> 00:13:26,800 learning curve from we had you know from 283 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,639 the big Central par pool right 284 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,680 so at the other pools are these are 285 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:34,600 there rules posted as well there should 286 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,560 be there used to be now kids have a 287 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,959 tendency ripping them down or ripping 288 00:13:39,959 --> 00:13:42,839 the fence open as they did in um FR 289 00:13:42,839 --> 00:13:44,480 Street pool they had the fence open a 290 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,800 couple times and got in and 291 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,880 um did a little swimming and actually 292 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,959 one day um we had to uh PD was there 293 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,279 fire department was there so the 294 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:58,680 ambulance and had to take a two 295 00:13:58,680 --> 00:13:59,800 individual 296 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,600 by ambulance to the hospital too much po 297 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,120 orange shoes too much heat and you 298 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,680 really should swim one year like 299 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:11,440 that transport to the hospital and they 300 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,720 had stuck in and they weren't kids they 301 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,440 weren't they were 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,320 adults and obviously there's no fees at 303 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 those at those pools at any of our other 304 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 pools so that's also the other piece of 305 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,000 this is you know whether the when we 306 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,800 have rules would they hold true for all 307 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,399 the R um I would think that that would 308 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:35,600 be a I would say yes got to be around 309 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,560 the board I think yeah I think it has to 310 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,759 be the same at all at all the pools the 311 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:41,720 hours are they consistent at all the 312 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240 pools no uh the other only pool weend 313 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Cal okay but that's the only the only 314 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,360 difference among the pools right now no 315 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,440 they have a because of the lap and 316 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,240 resistance the hours are a little bit 317 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,279 different and they also give the 318 00:14:57,279 --> 00:14:58,720 swimming lessons at Central Park because 319 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 they always did that yeah so yeah so 320 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,199 those hours are a little different at 321 00:15:02,199 --> 00:15:05,240 second part for assuming lessons and the 322 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,480 um used to think of adults going for the 323 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,680 lap pole but there's a lot of younger 324 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,240 people that go in early in the morning 325 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,440 and they're they're using the lap pole 326 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:20,320 for exercise and the resistance walk so those hours are different because of 327 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,720 them I mean I'm okay with those I mean 328 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,160 obviously the hours being different 329 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,399 because it is that is a different as a 330 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:32,629 different facility right 331 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:45,269 so is it noon to 6 General yeah 332 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:49,480 ear do we track the visitors in who are 333 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,759 using the PO on the daily basis where 334 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,680 they're coming from um yeah I would 335 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,920 imagine because they have to show their 336 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,000 ID and they keep it I don't know if they 337 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,519 record everything 338 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:01,120 boys and girls I can check tomorrow 339 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,680 morning and see if they actually keep 340 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,959 the sheets usually it's a daily thing 341 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:08,000 you show an ID just in case somebody was 342 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,399 to get hurt at least they have a photo 343 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,959 of them and they go is it something that 344 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:15,079 you can present to the council like 345 00:16:15,079 --> 00:16:19,560 report to say one week how 346 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,440 many they collecting zip 347 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,720 codes where the people are from so it's 348 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,920 not an 349 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,920 exact 350 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,079 address I can see what they have yeah 351 00:16:31,079 --> 00:16:32,279 the reason why I asked you want to see 352 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:35,279 because we're talking about um fee for 353 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:38,800 non-resident not maybe resident a fee or 354 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,759 no fee for Resident so you want to see 355 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:43,240 how many usage from out of 356 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,720 town yeah I I I think that's a key 357 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,360 question something just for us to kind 358 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,639 of like looke and say yeah we have you 359 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,880 know a few hundred people per week from 360 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,269 all is using 361 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:01,160 asol I guess um how do people feel about 362 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,279 I think it's is let me just take a quick 363 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:04,170 look here 364 00:17:04,170 --> 00:17:07,350 [Music] 365 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:14,429 again I'm pretty sure that Miss 366 00:17:14,439 --> 00:17:17,679 youa does not 367 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:21,319 allow your resident only your resident 368 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:24,520 only um so that's also I mean I think we 369 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,720 have to make a decision about that we 370 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,319 don't have to make a decision about any 371 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,679 of this but I just that's something that 372 00:17:30,679 --> 00:17:33,720 it seems to me um I I completely agree 373 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,760 with Paul um that the 374 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,600 newness is you know has lent itself to 375 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,160 some of the length of the lines but at 376 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,880 the same time it's a beautiful it's a 377 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,080 beautiful new pool and it it's only 378 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,240 going to get I I not that I'm a 379 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 scientist but it seems to me that our 380 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,000 summers are going to be hotter and 381 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,120 hotter um moving forward can we give 382 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:58,840 preference to our residents because they 383 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,280 to complain that people joining the lane 384 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,840 they can't get in they have to um 385 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 resident or getting in I we don't even 386 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,320 know if that's true though yeah but 387 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,640 that's just yeah we can look at the 388 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,880 report and see how many but that's think 389 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,159 we should consider is the preference to 390 00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:15,880 resident to use 391 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,320 it and non-resident should be well 392 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 non-residents without a resident with 393 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,960 them as far as you know just say me and 394 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,280 I bring my granddaughter who's a 395 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,919 resident here but I'm not a resident 396 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:30,280 here so I I think once we get some zip 397 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,200 codes and find out exactly who's going 398 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,960 there right I mean you want to bring 399 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,520 your grandkids and that's a good point 400 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,159 the grandkids could be out of town or or vice versa well yeah probably it's 401 00:18:41,159 --> 00:18:42,799 the adult that's the resident but the 402 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,039 grandkids could be visiting or you could 403 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:46,960 have any relative coming to town to 404 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,799 visit you and how do you get them into 405 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,880 the pool so that's another 406 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,080 consideration um not and then the other 407 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,760 piece is even the ID I mean I think Gary 408 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,520 did you mentioned at our last meeting 409 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,080 that um in the past um School IDs have 410 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600 been used correct what I'm being told 411 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,240 though is School District collected the 412 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,480 IDS year reissues in September so I 413 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,919 don't know to what 414 00:19:12,919 --> 00:19:16,669 degree that is 415 00:19:16,679 --> 00:19:18,840 a 416 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,600 functional component 417 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,080 of I've been over there many times and 418 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,559 just a joy of seeing these 12 13 15 16 419 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:29,440 kids with towels and being with students 420 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,640 and walking home and walking over to the 421 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,080 park and coming and going so that's why 422 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,720 like to know who's you know what's the the ZIP code is is pretty 423 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,120 important I I think most of them are are 424 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,520 residents but the ZIP code though even 425 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,640 like when I think about our ZIP code um 426 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,720 it's the same zip code for n i mean so 427 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,120 the ZIP code isn't necessarily going to 428 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:53,600 um tell us the full story but it is a 429 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,669 starting point at 430 00:19:56,679 --> 00:20:01,590 least do we have any 431 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,400 um do we have any we looking for 432 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,200 reciprocal agreements with any of the 433 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,480 other with 434 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,480 or and N is all you have to drive there 435 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,320 I mean I can't imagine anybody living up 436 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,559 there a couple of 437 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,960 homes um you know so they might have a 438 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,720 little bit more of control over we 439 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,720 definitely have kids as you said walking 440 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,600 I see them all the time walking to our 441 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,760 pool which is great it's it's really 442 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,880 exciting and certainly the other like if 443 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,799 you go up to um right Front Street yeah 444 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:36,480 I mean definitely I think our our bols 445 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,080 are are often walking to the pools 446 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,640 um one I mean you can see in terms of 447 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,159 the fees that um most of them have a 448 00:20:45,159 --> 00:20:47,919 different structure for um it would be 449 00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:50,840 SE like kids under a certain age get INF 450 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,760 free 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,080 um seniors might have a different or 452 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,280 actually like for example I'm looking at 453 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Nuno right now they're their seniors are 454 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,760 free 455 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,799 um I I like all residents free yeah I do 456 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:08,600 too um so I guess it would just come 457 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960 down to non-residence at this 458 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,559 point 459 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:19,350 I so I I don't know I don't think you 460 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,640 know they were never charged for years 461 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,360 over at um Front Street or um Hill Hurst 462 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,880 or anywhere 463 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,440 right uh to you you know the cost to 464 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,159 operate the pools maintain the pools um 465 00:21:35,159 --> 00:21:37,279 they don't go down if keep going the 466 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,679 repairs I mean have Front Street and 467 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:43,600 black I need more repairs 468 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,039 um you so you know if you're looking to 469 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:49,640 try and offset some cost and you have to 470 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,000 look at a way of doing it for revenue 471 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 and the elated revenue is Fe if you 472 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,320 don't Fe we 473 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 have they're going to incur these costs 474 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,039 going forward um chemicals going go up 475 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:05,000 um y every year um just the cost of 476 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,799 maintaining at that pool is very large 477 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,960 it's got to be vacuumed 478 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,080 um there's staff there on a regular 479 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080 basis every morning even though the 480 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,080 vacuums are um robotic ones um we can't 481 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200 do them INE 482 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,679 because unfortunate some will take them 483 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,279 they cost a little over $3,000 484 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:34,720 3,000 um per per unit and we were trying 485 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,360 to track the one down because we ordered 486 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,799 two but only one came so purchasing is 487 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:40,960 trying to track down what happened we 488 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,240 didn't pay for the second one but you 489 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,960 know where it went or it just got missed 490 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080 or it's just you know back ordered but 491 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,760 um so we have sa that goes up there 492 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000 early in morning they have to check the 493 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,360 water make sure it's meets requirements 494 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,640 the health department before it can even 495 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,919 open 496 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,840 so um that's being done about pools so 497 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840 those costs go up every year because 498 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,799 salaries and benefits go up every year 499 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:07,559 chemicals go up every year electricity 500 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:11,559 goes up every year um you know water we 501 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:13,880 put in the F goes up every year um our 502 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,880 budgets we see that so um it's just 503 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,799 something whether or not we for the 504 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,080 residents and we just incur the cost and 505 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,430 that's 506 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,880 it well me again I do feel 507 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,799 it's middle of July right I mean right 508 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,440 or end of July now I guess it's the end 509 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,120 of July next week is August 1st um I 510 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,840 mean I think anything that we're talking 511 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,880 about probably wouldn't go into effect 512 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,799 until next year the summer of 2025 I 513 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:46,960 just wanted to get the ball rolling here 514 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320 um but we would have to know kind of 515 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,679 what we want to do in terms of budget 516 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:54,720 getting ready for Budget um because as 517 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,120 you said I mean I know you'll be 518 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,480 presenting um a budget that has the 519 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,200 these increased costs um you know when 520 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,919 you talk about the um staff that is 521 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:06,240 going in early and you know doing the 522 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,000 back that's that's not that's not not 523 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,240 young people no those are you know our 524 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,400 staff from the 525 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,880 because they're certified to do the you 526 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,279 have be certified to do 527 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,279 the and because they're already 528 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,240 operators whether the waterers waste 529 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320 water they're certified to do certain 530 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,159 tests so they they can Comm in or we 531 00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:28,799 have to train the parks and waste water 532 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:30,320 we do have people 533 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,000 around at night and morning early rather 534 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,080 than having somebody start at 4:30 in 535 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,710 the 536 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,640 morning you know and we have to look at 537 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,080 I think this was a learning curve for 538 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,559 boys and girls club too so whether or 539 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,919 not you know based on their experience 540 00:24:48,919 --> 00:24:52,279 after the first season with the new pool 541 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,399 what will they require next year and 542 00:24:54,399 --> 00:24:55,399 will 543 00:24:55,399 --> 00:24:58,840 their go all the fees for services there 544 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,360 mhm so we can get that I mean again as 545 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,120 we're this is just a preliminary 546 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,600 discussion to try to start the ball 547 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,600 rolling but um obviously that'll be 548 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,279 something that'll play into you'll you 549 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,559 know I'm sure you'll get that from while 550 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,679 you're doing well so I know what I know 551 00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:16,000 what the fee is for this year they're 552 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 charging okay it's in the budget um it's 553 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,679 just you know after they get to 554 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:24,440 um you after the season's over the end 555 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,480 of 556 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 August I can reach out to Shane and say 557 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,559 you based on the first year you know 558 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:31,960 what do we you know what are we thinking 559 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 should we going to be somewhere you know 560 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,200 maybe a 5% increase or we have so much 561 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,360 problems there it's you know also what 562 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,320 are we going to ask them to do that 563 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,919 might be new if you want them to start 564 00:25:42,919 --> 00:25:44,840 taking in 565 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,480 money they you they may need an extra 566 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,360 person or two there because somebody's 567 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,919 going to have to now take money make 568 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:56,960 change give change so I you know I guess 569 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,520 some is what we're going to want to do 570 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,360 and 571 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,960 then how are they going to 572 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,640 charge 573 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,510 um they're going to be doing 574 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,880 that so I was um had a conversation 575 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,080 about Shane um and it seems like there 576 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,559 were like some issues there and I know 577 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:21,159 that he's been working um with the 578 00:26:21,159 --> 00:26:23,399 police department to have a presence 579 00:26:23,399 --> 00:26:26,559 there from the the times that um I've 580 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,279 been kind of more uh 581 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:30,880 more kind of hot over there like more 582 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 unintended like so there's been so he's 583 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,000 having some police presence there to 584 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,200 support that um and I just so I'm 585 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,440 understanding what you're saying is that 586 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,559 we probably would wait to see what 587 00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:41,279 utilization looks like and like what 588 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:42,760 where we can identify whatever the 589 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760 trends would be to say okay so we want 590 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,120 to plan for this trend that we saw last 591 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,720 year that every when 3:30 to 6:30 was 592 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,919 the time where they had like more issues 593 00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:55,279 with people so they're going to have to 594 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,360 staff it more there so therefore their 595 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,919 cost could reflect okay I mean we you 596 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,840 know we we have a very good trend of 597 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000 what the other pools were FR 598 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Street Hill was open in the old Central 599 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,039 Park we knew our EIC cost we knew 600 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,320 everything and this is new for us now 601 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,159 this is new pool so we have to see what 602 00:27:13,159 --> 00:27:16,159 our true costs were and you know I 603 00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:18,159 know you know we do have a police 604 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:20,159 presence there now you know most of the 605 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:22,399 day you know is that going to be 606 00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:24,320 something that's going to be carried on 607 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,960 next year because that's a cost you're 608 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,399 taking an officer off the street would 609 00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:31,039 be or is it an offic that's on 610 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:34,799 overtime so for those roughly 9 611 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,840 weeks may say this pool went so good 612 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,480 maybe it's opened earlier maybe it's 10 613 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,200 weeks now we opened a little early this 614 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080 year because it was 615 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,640 new open because it was hot it was wied 616 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,679 hot you know if we have a year like this 617 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:50,200 next year you know are we going to plan 618 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,159 to open a week early because that week 619 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:54,679 is everybody's pay the salaries and the 620 00:27:54,679 --> 00:27:58,960 chemical for an extra week so um 621 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,399 so there's a cost that we don't know the 622 00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:02,880 true cost yet as soon as the full closes 623 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,840 yes we can figure it out um best we 624 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,559 then chemicals be easy I know I know 625 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:13,080 we're going to purchase um but it's it's 626 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,279 the 627 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:16,640 sappy so I know there's also some 628 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,080 preliminary conversation with the school 629 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,360 district I don't know if this was just 630 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,880 kind of like a stop that measure right 631 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,120 now to see like you know what the 632 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,120 conversations have been how to like um 633 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,440 some of the district support staff have a presence there because they know 634 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,679 students and they know some of the 635 00:28:30,679 --> 00:28:32,799 community members and can help kind of 636 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,679 like allate some of that concern I don't 637 00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:35,760 know if that's something that they're 638 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,440 looking to do maintain and move forward 639 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,360 is that just like hey right now it's a 640 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360 good response kind of all hands on that 641 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,159 see if we can support people and I also 642 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:45,960 are we in those coners are we in those 643 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,279 conversations so no so so these 644 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,480 conversations are between boys and girls 645 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,399 club in the school district um and I 646 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:54,600 haven't necessarily been part of those 647 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,880 conversations either I just um uh was 648 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,480 made aware of them so I'm thinking that I don't know if that's like 649 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,360 something that they're looking for 650 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,720 longevity or is that something that 651 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,669 they're doing now we 652 00:29:06,679 --> 00:29:11,120 have call a PO monor somebody 653 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,960 that you know that the people using po 654 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,440 can respect a little bit 655 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,080 more you realize you know the lifeguards 656 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,200 are are young themselves high school 657 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,880 students and they're there for a very 658 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,240 important job they can't have their 659 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,039 attention different places you turn your 660 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,640 back and these arguments you when 661 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,760 something happens yeah that's that 662 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,120 wouldn't be cool at all whether or not 663 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080 that's why I'm hoping at the end of this 664 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,919 season you know we talk to boys and 665 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,679 girls about chain say you know hey life 666 00:29:40,679 --> 00:29:42,440 C things are fine as long as we can 667 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360 concentrate on 668 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480 life make sure nobody you know has an 669 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,960 accent in the pool but maybe there has 670 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,440 to be a couple other people that walk 671 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320 around more of the pool monitor to try 672 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,039 and like the police officers right now 673 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,159 he's really 674 00:29:59,159 --> 00:30:02,679 full monitor trying to you know which is 675 00:30:02,679 --> 00:30:04,880 I mean to have a police officer that's 676 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,159 then we're taking somebody off the 677 00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:08,559 street which is so you know so needed on 678 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,720 the street um I actually didn't know 679 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,519 that there was a police officer so the 680 00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,120 police officer is there um all the time 681 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,039 is it just at Central Park just Central 682 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:20,519 Park he's there more afternoon is where 683 00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,600 the problems are um but they you know I 684 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,320 see them go through I I hope there quite 685 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,440 a bit you know and they're they're going 686 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,720 through just 687 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,039 patrols okay so they're not 688 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,279 station one is station they 689 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,679 were on call basis there some kids who 690 00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:42,679 were acting less than optimal so we've U 691 00:30:42,679 --> 00:30:45,679 the Staffing the presence there still 692 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:48,240 somewhat on call they're 693 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,279 not not publicizing whether they're 694 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,480 going to be there or not because then 695 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,720 kids who in a bad manner would adjust 696 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,640 their schedule 697 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:01,760 [Music] 698 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200 so I guess one more Point yeah I want to 699 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200 go back to the no yeah please continue 700 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840 on your um no go ahead with the point 701 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,519 that so I also was thinking like about 702 00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:15,240 we're looking at utilization I know that 703 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,120 right now we're not capturing data where 704 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200 people live and I and and I would I was 705 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,919 saying I know we're not capturing data 706 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:23,200 but people are in the city or out of the 707 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,590 city right now 708 00:31:26,590 --> 00:31:29,480 [Music] 709 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,679 first few days first week so it's not 710 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:35,240 exact but 711 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,279 criminal could 712 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,200 sit 309 be City could be 713 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:47,470 n 03 and 06 are 714 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,279 also so I guess my point there was that 715 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,840 if we're getting that information and 716 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,000 not it might be to the mayor's point I 717 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440 mean might not be really really concise 718 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,279 that but at least we can look at like 719 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,919 that D should drive like our decision 720 00:32:02,919 --> 00:32:05,000 around like charging people right so 721 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,679 like because if we have a lot of people 722 00:32:06,679 --> 00:32:08,240 that are coming from other communities 723 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120 that we know that you know we can charge 724 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440 them then it's a question sustainability 725 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,399 so 726 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,960 just yeah we did we did ask Paul for 727 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,639 that so he's going to 728 00:32:19,639 --> 00:32:24,279 go bring that report to us and being 729 00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:25,360 that we having this conversation now 730 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,679 would it be more would it be a better 731 00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:30,279 data point to find out if they live in 732 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,039 the city not just their area code we can 733 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:33,360 kind of get more concise like I would 734 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,080 suggest that we just do that can can 735 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240 start doing 736 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,279 that I mean again I I I actually was 737 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,120 going to say the same thing but again 738 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,360 know that for example I have friends 739 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,440 that live in Nuna but their their snail 740 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,559 mail 741 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:55,279 address connect um so even that like 742 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,480 somebody could write down connect but 743 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,600 not necessarily be a SKC a city of SK 744 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,639 well city of SKC resident people every 745 00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:06,760 day go to the golf course and want to 746 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,590 say the city is connected the 747 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240 president so at the golf course well of 748 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,720 course it's adult so they probably have 749 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,679 do they show driver's licenses or 750 00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,480 something they do a secondary level of 751 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760 validation where they 752 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,799 live years ago I had to bring a Nyo bill 753 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,240 yeah that's over over there to the Alamo 754 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,320 to get my 755 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,639 years ago people who were generally du 756 00:33:30,639 --> 00:33:35,440 to be more than fluent were 757 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,279 tring 758 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,440 off and everybody wants to be from 759 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,639 connected anyway 760 00:33:42,639 --> 00:33:44,440 let's 761 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,000 um the because even I mean if there was 762 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,080 a special IDE I mean we talked about the 763 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,159 student the student IDs from the school 764 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:55,639 district deani before you got here but 765 00:33:55,639 --> 00:33:59,240 um uh Gary pointed out that I guess 766 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,880 those get collected at the end of the 767 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840 year and then reissued in September so 768 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,919 that would be something that we have to 769 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,520 um if we wanted to use the school IDs 770 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,159 we' have we'd have to be talking with 771 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,800 the school district about some of this 772 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,599 stuff 773 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:17,879 um that was the case John why don't we 774 00:34:17,879 --> 00:34:21,079 consider issuing an ID to use the pool 775 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:22,960 and we charge them an administrative fee 776 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,000 every year it's already on the books 777 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,270 that there's a 778 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,760 Recreation so that was one time used for 779 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:38,560 golf course for tennis for 780 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,079 other Recreation facilities we talk 781 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:43,720 about 782 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:47,919 the the recreation fund generally first 783 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,320 the only thing to really take money in 784 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,399 is the golf course right right it's 785 00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:55,760 intent was more broad based set up I 786 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,200 think I think by doing that to with an 787 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,960 idea kind of REM control you have 788 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,400 control over it because if you don't 789 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,680 have an ID you can use the pool a city 790 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520 isue ID you pay your administrative fee 791 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000 and you show and use it with your 792 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,200 picture ID and your address I think 793 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040 that's a great idea something that you 794 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,000 should consider it will help um staff it 795 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,920 definitely will everybody be it help we 796 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,200 could set it up so that um you know 797 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,280 there was a certain time period that 798 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960 kids could first of all we could go to 799 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,640 the 800 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,880 schools if we needed to we could do it 801 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,359 out school but I mean we could do it 802 00:35:30,359 --> 00:35:32,960 right at the pool um where we take the 803 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,079 picture and and generate the the ID yeah 804 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:38,880 you can you can done right there as they 805 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,800 showed up the ID and you charge them the 806 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,000 administrative 807 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,309 Fe could be like the week before the 808 00:35:48,319 --> 00:35:52,319 pool have to go into a budget um I mean 809 00:35:52,319 --> 00:35:54,440 that's why I think that we really can't 810 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,040 you know it's going to be a 811 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,960 2025 is there days that we're you know 812 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,079 if you keep track even though the 813 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,000 turnover the pool there you know it's 814 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,119 400 but you get there's been a thousand 815 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,920 people in the pool through the day 816 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,760 that's a th000 IDs you do that you know 817 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640 seven days that was like that 7,000 IDs 818 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,720 you be making um I mean it just well 819 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:19,430 some of those duplicate 820 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,040 yeah 821 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,800 come but you'd have to add in you know I 822 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640 mean if we're doing this I mean I would 823 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,880 going to also do it for the other pools 824 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,200 you see what I'm saying like it's not 825 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,720 just um I mean they if they get a 826 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,640 recreational ID they're getting that 827 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,839 recreational ID for all you know what I 828 00:36:36,839 --> 00:36:39,960 mean it's like one I one card but I mean 829 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,520 you know it would be are they because 830 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,680 right now I don't think they show 831 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,599 anything right at idea at quack 832 00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:51,400 bu yeah because it's the same thing the 833 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,880 life guards need to know who's in the 834 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319 pool okay so they are like they're 835 00:36:55,319 --> 00:36:57,680 signing I you know I never all the time 836 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,640 going up there we can never saw that we 837 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,400 can have the IDE General to use um city 838 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,880 pools it'd be kind of I bet kind cool 839 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319 thing I mean like res res chargement fee 840 00:37:08,319 --> 00:37:10,440 for that ID but if it's on the computer 841 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,839 they get your doctor's office you give 842 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:13,560 your name all of a sudden it pops up my 843 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,680 picture and they don't have to carry 844 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,079 anything they know they're going to lose 845 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,839 it a thousand times because I was 846 00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:23,000 thinking that if we it likely will be a 847 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,040 couple different acceptable forms of ID 848 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,760 because what we want to do is is we 849 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,480 don't want to we want to be really 850 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,119 intentional about increasing access to 851 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,560 the fail we want the kids to be able to 852 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,240 do it so when we talk about any cost 853 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,280 that people have to ur we have to take 854 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,319 into consideration of you know some of 855 00:37:38,319 --> 00:37:41,839 our residents who might um who might not 856 00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:44,079 have uh you know their cousin or someone 857 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,119 with a pool or something like that and 858 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,200 they might not have that money to access 859 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,440 the pool we want to make sure that they 860 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520 could do it we also would have to 861 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,880 consider the fact that there's a lot of 862 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,160 students that are that live in SKC but 863 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,160 go to Charter School schs or you know or 864 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,200 private schools or even home tutoring to 865 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400 where a a student ID if we're using the 866 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,480 state school district wouldn't be 867 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,359 applicable for right um so but I think 868 00:38:08,359 --> 00:38:10,920 that if like no different than the DMV 869 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,920 like you know you have like a list of 870 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,760 acceptable things like maybe like a a 871 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,280 school report card or something that that we can say okay this proves 872 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,240 that you live um in the city as connect 873 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:27,599 and then we can generate whatever that uh idea that's going to look then 874 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:28,880 you know I would just say let's just be 875 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,599 mindful about like not everyone has you 876 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,520 know it's going to have a student ID and 877 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,040 obviously my main thing is not 878 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480 everyone's going to have money to to 879 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,960 again I think we were talking about 880 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:47,040 residents basically being frck right right right I brought it up a general ID so 881 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480 you don't have to walk with your utility 882 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,240 bill you don't have one you don't access 883 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,280 you have a general ID and you have 884 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440 access so we centralize everything 885 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,920 across all the tools 886 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,160 how charge for that I mean like you know 887 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,440 Char non residents or 888 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,760 residents get the ID to get the ID is 889 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,400 going to cost us so we have to pass that 890 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,910 cost back to so to 891 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,920 everybody and they would have to renew 892 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,839 it every year I mean we might be able to 893 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:19,640 again we're again I feel like a little 894 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,200 bit like we're getting ahead of ahead of 895 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,800 ourselves but I mean in that particular 896 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,480 case we also can I mean the idea of 897 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,599 talking with the school district is 898 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,560 maybe the school district helps to put a 899 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,040 bill for X number of IDs for their 900 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,440 students I don't know that they're 901 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920 already putting the idea how do you get 902 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000 away from duplicates so if you had kids 903 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,880 that have a city school district ID we 904 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,160 accept that and as Farley's point out 905 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,040 there some kids may not have that so how 906 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560 do you fill the Gap with that so you 907 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,520 know you still may make it access so you 908 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,400 have to pay $2 to get it and 909 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,560 it's valid for so many years I think the 910 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,800 two bucks would probably cover our 911 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,240 processing 912 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:13,560 costs I think the county did something 913 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,160 like with the library cards 914 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,599 like I'm sorry no I'm saying like I know 915 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:20,880 the county did something like to where 916 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,640 the library cards the cost of a library 917 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,319 card um um was greatly reduced and then at one point you can go get 918 00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:29,359 library card at no cost we we don't 919 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:31,680 charge money for our library cards um I 920 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,400 can't remember if there's a replacement 921 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,599 cost if I lose my no actually there is 922 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,599 not a cost because I actually did have 923 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,839 to go in and get a new card recently and 924 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,160 I wasn't charged for that but we what we 925 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,680 did was get rid of the FES um as well we 926 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,480 have no fines for overdue books right so 927 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400 that that was that was us eliminating a 928 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,200 barrier uh to to access because we 929 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,359 wanted to make sure the kids were and 930 00:40:54,359 --> 00:40:57,440 adults uh were were doing that there is 931 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,839 still a replacement cost if you have a 932 00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:02,880 book that gets lost sure um there is a 933 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040 replacement cost for that but I like the 934 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160 school ID I hear what you're saying but 935 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,440 I guess and again it would me need a 936 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,680 little bit more research but when I 937 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,720 think about like Destin prep um they 938 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,480 probably have school 939 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,280 IDs they probably have some sort of ID 940 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,760 for their own students at or a Catholic 941 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,000 School like have they don't have ID but 942 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,880 the right so so we're saying the same 943 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,319 thing I'm not saying either or I'm 944 00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,040 saying yes and like like let's if the 945 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,280 school district can be a resource that 946 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,800 where kids are getting this anyway then 947 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,880 it's like because if you have connected 948 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000 the city school district you City 949 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,280 connect I mean that that would be right so that might cover I don't know 950 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,680 90% of our students then we're only 951 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,520 working with maybe that 10% of the 952 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,960 school population that live in that are 953 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,720 come visiting the pool and maybe only 5% 954 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,040 of them go to different schools so it's 955 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,119 like we're just building some things so 956 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,920 you know we can accept different forms 957 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,760 based on what people's situation is but 958 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,079 I'm really my my largest concern would 959 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,720 be that that charging people even 960 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,359 residents kids to get in the how do we 961 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,760 moove that if we can obviously this one 962 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,560 I mean I think Doren pointed something 963 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,280 out at the beginning of the meeting also 964 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000 which is that for example if I had 965 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,599 somebody visiting from out of town um a 966 00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:20,400 niece or you know brings their two 967 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,559 children um I'd want to get those kids 968 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,040 in too so in that sense um it's me 969 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,559 showing me my ID as a resent 970 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:30,640 um and then paying perhaps for 971 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520 non-residents that I'm bringing with me 972 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,920 uh to to enter into the pool in that 973 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,480 case it's not a school ID but that's 974 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,000 easy right I mean I've got my driver's 975 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,359 license or you know something else some 976 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:44,280 of the other pools do have um for 977 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,280 example like a fob kind of thing but 978 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,160 that would be expensive um I think to 979 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,440 have to create something like that and 980 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,440 give out a fob to kids I don't really I 981 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,109 don't know what do you think 982 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:05,240 probably uh again like our city 983 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:09,040 IDs are ability to be encrypted so that 984 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,400 they can be used for 985 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,599 Access so those I don't know what the 986 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,040 cost for a blank 987 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:27,309 is it's minimal 988 00:43:27,319 --> 00:43:28,920 well Cony 989 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,920 allows three nonresident guests per 990 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,359 resident yes that's right there's I mean 991 00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:35,559 some of these have I mean I guess what 992 00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:37,079 I'm going to need you all to do is take 993 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,599 a look at these um we'll have to have 994 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,630 another 995 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,920 meeting because this is too much this is 996 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,040 really too much to absorb all at once 997 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,119 but you can see the differences I was 998 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,400 going to try to figure out how to um 999 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,520 what's the word take this information 1000 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,760 and kind of make a chart for you not 1001 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200 exactly but I I think we're all in agre 1002 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,839 the vill shouldn't be a resident charge 1003 00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:06,200 but I do like a a recreational fee for 1004 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,760 the ID with um uh certain circumstances 1005 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,480 of not being you know you got 10 kids uh 1006 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,480 you know $10 is a lot of money and could 1007 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,960 be looked at on a family basis but for a 1008 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,559 couple bucks just to cover the cost of 1009 00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,480 something that and the books is a fee to 1010 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,800 play at the tennis 1011 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680 courts right we don't charge that 1012 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,000 because it was costing us more to 1013 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,680 collect the money than what the people 1014 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,839 were paying now do you go back and do an 1015 00:44:36,839 --> 00:44:39,440 annual charge of 10 bucks or something 1016 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,880 for 1017 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,520 people I make you say are encrypted 1018 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,440 thing I mean they have to have that to 1019 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,760 even open the gates to the to the tennis 1020 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,960 courts I'm just saying right that's 1021 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,800 possible but you one person that has the 1022 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,520 let everybody 1023 00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,040 in Colony has the for their 18 over you 1024 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,390 get get a problem but no 1025 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,079 chargeall that one's in here I have in 1026 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,720 here and not get off cool you know have 1027 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,599 meeting with regards to pickle ball 1028 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:16,800 today and the same thing they we took 1029 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,480 some Brian can and I and 1030 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,760 um Richard under and 1031 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,040 um about signs the rules and regulations 1032 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,960 for pickle 1033 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,440 ball um and whether or 1034 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,040 not the council end up setting fees for 1035 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,240 pickle ball or is that just going to 1036 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,800 be the questions came up I don't know 1037 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,800 you know I mean that's you know we have 1038 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,599 fees like the mayor said 1039 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,920 for we had trouble to sta somebody there 1040 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,720 to try and collect the fees um we get 1041 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:54,480 all the fees um the Seas it sits there 1042 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,000 and some residents are very ad that um 1043 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200 they're not paying a feed they said they 1044 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,760 came out to me and told me I'm a I'm a 1045 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,800 taxpayer I'm not paying a 1046 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440 feed for the cours no the tennis courts 1047 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,960 for the tennis we you know we in 1048 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160 2022 Council approved a resolution and 1049 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,480 set fees for Resident non-resident 1050 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,839 nonprofit and a commercial entity but 1051 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:22,000 you know but there's not really anybody 1052 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,839 there collecting those fees no you know 1053 00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:25,000 and how do you tell somebody your hours 1054 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,790 up we need another $15 1055 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,880 um it's just and pickle ball because I 1056 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,680 played the winter down at the Li and 1057 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,440 that's where the M pickle ball Club 1058 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,680 plays and then they moved their outdoor 1059 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,200 session to that's rich younger right Rich younger and I'm like they're 1060 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,160 like but if if I showed up and I'm not a 1061 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,240 member of the the Le um I could put my 1062 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,240 you put your P there you so they rotate 1063 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,800 you in but still I'm a resident I show 1064 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,960 up with John and Josh and I'm on to play 1065 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,480 but we can't play together because you 1066 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000 have to be rotated in we charge that 1067 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,599 Mohawk do we charge them to use this no 1068 00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:07,200 you we discussed it today IM but it's 1069 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,520 public park or somebody want to play you 1070 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,680 know there there is the you know good 1071 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920 Sportsman where if you're on there I 1072 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,599 knowall you know it lasts anywhere from 1073 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,839 15 minutes you know up to 11 once you're 1074 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:22,559 playing me it's 3 1075 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,359 minutes you know and then would you get 1076 00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:26,160 off the court to let somebody else play 1077 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,119 and there's and you know I said I can't 1078 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:30,680 have anybody 1079 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,680 dominated you know I I I again this is 1080 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240 just hearsay but I definitely have heard 1081 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,319 that perhaps there is that particular 1082 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:42,680 leag is kind of dominating those courts 1083 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,280 and they own those 1084 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,720 Sports so and Valley to you know I said 1085 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,640 some basic signs and we'll do some 1086 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,559 things but people from everybody else is 1087 00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:57,800 from 1088 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,800 oh yeah no I over 200 members even when 1089 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,119 we were starting to talk about those 1090 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,400 ports I we got a hard time from from him in particular because we were 1091 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,520 putting him up there and not down in The 1092 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,000 Stockade and it was like you know I said 1093 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,640 Rich we're talking like a a f minute 1094 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,400 drive or something I mean it's not 1095 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,559 like we can't do everything the should 1096 00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,160 go forwards we got this great swimming 1097 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:28,119 facility you got the great a DI 1098 00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,160 great pickle B pickle ball is there 1099 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,079 music C is there we have to have some 1100 00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:36,079 money coming in for routine maintenance 1101 00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,400 and some of the staffing issues it's not 1102 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,160 like we're going to make huge amounts of 1103 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,839 money on it but to maintain the level of 1104 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:48,839 quality so that people can enjoy it uh 1105 00:48:48,839 --> 00:48:50,799 it's got to be a lower 1106 00:48:50,799 --> 00:48:53,760 eff he said that it's the way the courts 1107 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,079 were designed there you don't walk 1108 00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,559 behind other players all never Leed to 1109 00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,520 court and everybody loves how Hill horse 1110 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,200 was designed and oh yeah they love it up there they love it sort 1111 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,240 of like you know the a DI it's like our 1112 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:08,680 golf course now everybody comes to play 1113 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,480 golf 1114 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000 here that's right the good the good 1115 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,839 problems they have 1116 00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:16,680 right we have you know we have like just 1117 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520 high class facilities in all these 1118 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,960 situations but tennis has book 1119 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960 constantly on my phone between USDA and 1120 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,839 love they're just there constantly and you know most cours need some work 1121 00:49:28,839 --> 00:49:30,440 they want to stay there they bring 1122 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,720 people in from all over at least USA now 1123 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,640 they've given us they gave us a break on 1124 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,119 the um on something Chris Chris W 1125 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,200 presented to us what were 1126 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,079 they well they're giving us money or 1127 00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:45,319 they're 1128 00:49:45,319 --> 00:49:47,520 contributing this point a half million 1129 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,240 dollars toward the upgrade to the 1130 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,400 facility yeah so but you have to 1131 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,630 remember it sounds 1132 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,960 impressive they have a revenue stream to 1133 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,640 support that so they kind a big 1134 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,480 following people want to come here 1135 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,720 people want to 1136 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,920 uh take advantage of that facility so 1137 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,640 you know again we want to work with them 1138 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,760 we want to make it happen 1139 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,359 and don't want to discourage you right 1140 00:50:16,359 --> 00:50:18,280 so where do we go from here guys in 1141 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,319 terms of I mean I I feel like I need you 1142 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:25,599 guys to take a look at this stuff and sort of come up with the with the 1143 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,280 best of of what is we've got time 1144 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,400 because like we said well what we don't 1145 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,160 have time for is we need to make sure 1146 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640 that the budget for 2025 is going to 1147 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,400 include you know whatever we need but um 1148 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,280 in terms of like I mean at this 1149 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,359 point I don't I want to hear how you 1150 00:50:44,359 --> 00:50:45,760 guys feel but I don't think we can 1151 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,160 necessarily like change rules right now 1152 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,760 when there's probably like you know a 1153 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,960 month and a half left I 1154 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,359 agree we we can't add anything now I 1155 00:50:56,359 --> 00:50:57,160 don't 1156 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,040 no we'll have to modify our signs 1157 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,960 maybe 1158 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,960 signs yeah I mean there's no smoking in 1159 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,799 the park there's no smoking in the pool 1160 00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:11,960 area people are not necessarily 1161 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,760 compliant I 1162 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,119 know and that's where I think the kids 1163 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:17,400 are probably having a hard time 1164 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,960 enforcing stuff like that I'm sorry me 1165 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,079 that no parking on the lawn signs um the 1166 00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:25,280 guys up there and tell me they're 1167 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,200 constantly asking people to park on the 1168 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,400 lawn and being threatened and who's 1169 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400 going to because anyway they're looking 1170 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,680 for no parking on the lawn 1171 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,040 signs and smoking or vaping that face 1172 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,720 well that is that yeah cuz that's not on 1173 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,559 the sun says no alcohol no glass no 1174 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:48,880 coolers no knives no firearms and but 1175 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:56,720 there's nothing about smoking I mean 1176 00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,200 people are smoking all over the park 1177 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,160 believe me it's just not I was in such a 1178 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,839 bad mood at the music when I was in the 1179 00:52:04,839 --> 00:52:06,680 concession stand two weeks ago that I 1180 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,480 literally like went up to be I was like 1181 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,440 heading towards people to like grab 1182 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,960 their cigarettes somebody else no I know 1183 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,400 but somebody else somebody else cut me a 1184 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,240 different volunteer like got there first 1185 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,960 and and said sorry you Cann not be 1186 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,440 smoking here um so I said yes I turned 1187 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,559 around and right back into the 1188 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:26,839 concession stand but um I know 1189 00:52:26,839 --> 00:52:28,599 individuals too have problems with those 1190 00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:31,280 Cabanas people are putting up Cabanas 1191 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,160 those 1192 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,160 tents should can't be inside inside so 1193 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,799 people are claiming like their little 1194 00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:39,920 4x4 with 1195 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,880 the tents yeah and and for the infant 1196 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,880 one um I know in 1197 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,880 beachs you can't have any only have the 1198 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,400 unell that but there's a rule that you 1199 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,880 can have the um there's an infant t no these 1200 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,680 are like t t they should not be and also 1201 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,160 umbrellas because on a windy day they 1202 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,559 don't secure them here comes the 1203 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,119 umbrella about the down I've seen lots 1204 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,960 of people with umbrellas I I I agree I 1205 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,720 the sh there's no place to secure unless 1206 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:13,559 you put it through our asro tur be 1207 00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,440 problem well that's right I've seen 1208 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,160 umbrellas there you have to hold 1209 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,400 it so 1210 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,559 agree nexton comes a lot of different 1211 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,760 rules you know some of the sign we're 1212 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,960 going to have to modify take a sign down 1213 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,040 and we do it in house modify the sign so 1214 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,480 that um you 1215 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,920 know the basic rules there could be a 1216 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,599 list of maybe 16 or 20 rules that are 1217 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,720 there to be followed um you know we we 1218 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:47,839 work on that off season and have already 1219 00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:48,680 just 1220 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,040 whatever is decided upon what put rules 1221 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,119 and regulations in terms of timing I 1222 00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:58,440 mean in terms of like actually coming up 1223 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,920 with pool rules which would again I just 1224 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,640 want to reiterate that would be across 1225 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,559 the pools of SKC not just the Central 1226 00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:07,040 Park although the hours going be 1227 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,040 different because of the laps and you 1228 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,480 know that kind of thing um we have time 1229 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,359 right I mean we we probably wouldn't 1230 00:54:14,359 --> 00:54:16,400 need to like sort of finalize something 1231 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,630 like that no I mean the 1232 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,760 science well no you can move at your own 1233 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,440 pace you have to have some level control 1234 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,839 will be able to manage the facil so that 1235 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:33,680 my to do some things and 1236 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,040 most things looking do is what I call 1237 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,079 common sense it's not right like you 1238 00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:43,000 need an act to Congress to get people 1239 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,640 to but you will get people who challenge 1240 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,119 it and say where's the sign says I can't 1241 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,640 smoke it's over on right Avenue when you 1242 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,960 come in it's in the city 1243 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,880 cover well I that's up to I mean what do 1244 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,960 folks feel I mean we can either you know 1245 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:01,520 take a look at this and try to come up 1246 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,559 with a broader list um and try to get 1247 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,520 signs up if it sounds like that's what 1248 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,960 you would actually want to have 1249 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,119 happen well yeah the other thing I want 1250 00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:15,599 something 1251 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,319 that's more standardized so there might 1252 00:55:19,319 --> 00:55:21,280 be some modifications for quack at a 1253 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,000 bush or Front Street but it's got to 1254 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,440 kind of make sense on a wide basis so 1255 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,839 that we don't get people shifting from 1256 00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:31,200 one place to the other 1257 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,119 [Music] 1258 00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,559 to find a loophole and create a problem 1259 00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,000 no I I completely agree with that and 1260 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,640 whatever rules you put up you will still 1261 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,440 get people who will try and work an 1262 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,720 angle something it's golf course we post 1263 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,319 you can't bring 1264 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:54,119 alcohol the golf course you can buy it 1265 00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:59,200 people oh yeah sneak Con in their golf 1266 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,720 bag whatever and you know 1267 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:06,240 it's one isolated thing isn't 1268 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,280 necessarily an issue you get more more 1269 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,520 people doing it and you get people who 1270 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520 tend to make poor choices where you get 1271 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,880 glitter you get them doing other things 1272 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,390 that 1273 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,280 are just 1274 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,520 inappropriate I'd like to see no smoking 1275 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,599 and vaping signs at all of our Parks 1276 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,079 because I stopped bringing Ella to South 1277 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,559 Park because I was getting in so many 1278 00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,960 arguments over there um and I didn't 1279 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,920 want to get into a 1280 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,510 altercation I don't know where it is the 1281 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,440 FDA said that they would provide us sign 1282 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,559 for the entire park system Michelle was 1283 00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:50,440 following up on that so they would be 1284 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,640 things that are kind of standardized 1285 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,799 National level I think they have some of 1286 00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:59,400 the educational components in it to you 1287 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,480 know tell people the reason 1288 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,160 why be smoking should be vaping 1289 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,520 should that probably the woman that 1290 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,270 comes 1291 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,280 um yeah the to she probably has has 1292 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,160 stuff like that also they do have sign 1293 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,119 in the past they had a partner with us 1294 00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:20,119 provide they didn't provide this was 1295 00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,480 federal government I was trying to scr 1296 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,640 money over who we can we successful 1297 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,359 sometimes uh we should reach to them and 1298 00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:29,799 try to get some signs from them I would 1299 00:57:29,799 --> 00:57:31,680 like to see maybe that education 1300 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,839 component because that's kind of like 1301 00:57:32,839 --> 00:57:34,720 what they're charged with and if we can 1302 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,359 engage some of our younger people in the 1303 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:39,520 community to participate in that maybe 1304 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,039 even in that signage piece like they're 1305 00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:43,920 therefore you know we can kind of be um 1306 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,400 leveraging their mission and there's 1307 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,640 some education and then you get some 1308 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,000 buying from the community too if people 1309 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,280 are part of the process so I maybe we 1310 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,760 just talk to them about like maybe of 1311 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,240 community project that we want to work 1312 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,160 with them on around sign Elementary 1313 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,480 School poster contest yeah something 1314 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,079 like that that can that can engage 1315 00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:06,670 students 1316 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,240 iation uh um restroom 1317 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,559 monitors anything I I know there's been 1318 00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:14,920 a lot of 1319 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,400 flushing I mean we we increased the um I 1320 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,280 think one of the problems was the 1321 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,599 fixtures that were there were low flow 1322 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,920 to sa water okay 1323 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:32,480 to a a higher rate to to take some of 1324 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,440 the St because I know I heard about the 1325 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,960 one there was one issue that I heard 1326 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,760 about with somebody sticking something 1327 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,319 down there was a piece of rebar there 1328 00:58:41,319 --> 00:58:43,000 which could have came dur construction 1329 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,720 it just fell in there just didn't get 1330 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,160 noticed and was removin products so we 1331 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,119 did put more of the high rate fixtures 1332 00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:56,520 in have we been having any problems with 1333 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,359 diapers or anything like that in the 1334 00:58:58,359 --> 00:59:02,359 restrooms no um people still put wipes 1335 00:59:02,359 --> 00:59:05,960 in and you know we're checking when I 1336 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,520 was up there this afternoon one of the 1337 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,799 guys water plant was checking me the new 1338 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:13,440 St pumps that they have up there so it's 1339 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,240 just more animal quaintance thing and um 1340 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,200 you there are just certain items that 1341 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,200 shouldn't 1342 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,760 go I know are there signs like there are 1343 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720 in any public restroom on haven't in the 1344 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,240 lady room okay 1345 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,559 I can't remember now more of the 1346 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:31,079 problems are in the women's bathrooms 1347 00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:33,359 yeah yeah so 1348 00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:38,760 um I'll check that out also 1349 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,079 um CU those signs I mean those are just 1350 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,119 dur in terms of going to a restaurant 1351 00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:46,760 and make sure there's recepticles there 1352 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,240 that have a choice to put them in if 1353 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,720 they're not what happens is some you 1354 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,000 know they bring a you know young baby in 1355 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,200 and they're changing the paper and 1356 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,680 they're just throwing something in in 1357 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,000 the toilet 1358 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,440 and if it doesn't get flush the next 1359 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,119 person in they're throwing more stuff 1360 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,079 and then there's a point where it it 1361 01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:06,280 can't take all that you know it's um you 1362 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,400 know if you're going to use it it's got 1363 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,400 to be flush but you can't just put a lot 1364 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,920 of material in there um you know wipes 1365 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,760 use on the end you know babies and stuff 1366 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,799 to clean them off in in a diaper they 1367 01:00:17,799 --> 01:00:19,599 got to go a 1368 01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,799 can 1369 01:00:21,799 --> 01:00:25,359 not so do we so I mean I think the other 1370 01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:28,240 thing is the well you know a child of a 1371 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,839 certain age has to be accompanied by an 1372 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,240 adult me we don't have but we don't have 1373 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,960 that posted right yeah but we do 1374 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,960 have okay what is the age that we have I 1375 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,390 can look it 1376 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,400 myself it is sign so under 13 two more 1377 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,319 adults 18 years older must be president 1378 01:00:47,319 --> 01:00:49,200 pool and use with at least one adult on 1379 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,400 the pool deck children less than 16 1380 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,799 years old must at all times be 1381 01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:55,440 accompanied by a parent or guardian or 1382 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,119 similar responsible for their safety and 1383 01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:01,280 behavior while at Bing facility all 1384 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,559 Waters yeah and there's going to be some 1385 01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:05,760 things have be modifi because you know 1386 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,720 when we first started we you know we 1387 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,680 thought you know what is it way me a lot 1388 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,640 of 13y olds don't want to be with their 1389 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,160 mother at the pool you know it's just 1390 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,280 you know so somebody's going to have to 1391 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,160 decide what is the appropriate age level 1392 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,559 for a youth to be at the 1393 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,240 pool you know I mean you read the swim 1394 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,760 test in there lot of even Lake mour a 1395 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,599 lot of people have to pass that's where 1396 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,789 we 1397 01:01:33,799 --> 01:01:37,079 can if I was 1 my mother was standing 1398 01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:38,680 there watching me 1399 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,520 just 1400 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,760 yeah that would probably would have gone 1401 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,160 to the pool back yeah this one Albany 1402 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,160 definitely has children under the age of 1403 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,520 13 um and if they they have to leave the 1404 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,920 water and sit on the pool deck until 1405 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,400 their parents have returned um but again 1406 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,839 I mean I come back to 1407 01:01:58,839 --> 01:02:02,240 it's we have to talk to Shane as well 1408 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,599 into these discussions because I mean 1409 01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:05,760 you know we got to make sure that the 1410 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,400 kids are comfortable enforcing these 1411 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,480 rules you know and that's the we things 1412 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,520 out of the you know what you've provided 1413 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,680 to the even they're allowing things um 1414 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,839 again I think what we want is just 1415 01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:24,039 people dropping you know kids off and leaving them I mean when I was young 1416 01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:27,789 I Dro hard pool 1417 01:02:27,799 --> 01:02:29,079 I don't think they really careed who was 1418 01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,720 there with you I mean there was young 1419 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,480 kids there I mean um you know we just 1420 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,839 walk from diam homes and took your 1421 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,000 little brother with you and you kind of 1422 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,400 watched them at K why you were the 1423 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,079 bigger pool but I mean you know it are 1424 01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:48,960 different now yes 1425 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,720 you it's you what do we feel 1426 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,599 is is a safe age to have somebody there 1427 01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:56,480 where 1428 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,079 you know and how many you know during 1429 01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:00,960 the week how many parents they're 1430 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,960 working right can really you 1431 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,119 know 16's I think 16's kind of 1432 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:12,480 old not my decision something we don't 1433 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,279 have to be comfortable with that we feel 1434 01:03:14,279 --> 01:03:17,039 safe um 1435 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,240 and help 1436 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,559 too I and I I I apologize I should have 1437 01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,400 thought of that I should have probably 1438 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,440 um thought about 1439 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,240 having boys and girls club we 1440 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,920 knew so oh no I know I just wanted to 1441 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,680 get the balls I just wanted to get the 1442 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,079 balls when I spoke to Shane he really 1443 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:37,599 didn't know too much because he hasn't 1444 01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,960 been there right so Julie is right oh 1445 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,559 yeah Julie is there is she a director of 1446 01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:44,920 Education I think yeah and she's she's 1447 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,599 at the pool quite a bit she go she was 1448 01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:49,520 there this afternoon was there um and 1449 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,160 you know she to give us some you know 1450 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,680 some guidance and you know after being 1451 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,599 there at 16 right age of 14 and 13 I 1452 01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:01,680 mean you know I we'll 1453 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,359 have be a little lot better place make 1454 01:04:04,359 --> 01:04:05,279 sure 1455 01:04:05,279 --> 01:04:09,000 when so should we I guess my question is 1456 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,720 when do you want to get together again 1457 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,160 to um to think about this and we 1458 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,480 obviously I 1459 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,279 think I mean do you need do we need to 1460 01:04:18,279 --> 01:04:21,079 do something that's going to go for the 1461 01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:25,000 rest of the summer I'm feeling no I I I 1462 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,039 just want on that the real point of 1463 01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:29,720 contention is going to be a fee 1464 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,000 structure so what are you going to 1465 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,119 charge basically 1466 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:37,240 nonresidents having said that are there 1467 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,960 scenarios where you charge some 1468 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,880 residents 1469 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,039 for referred swim times or other things 1470 01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:46,839 for the people that are going in there 1471 01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:48,799 may be some of those scenarios you want 1472 01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:53,440 to look at the core of having 1473 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,760 kids from the city out using these 1474 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,920 facilities should be done at 1475 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:03,279 the most minimal cost so that they're 1476 01:05:03,279 --> 01:05:06,240 basically going in for 1477 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,000 free 1478 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,079 that's yeah I mean this you know it's 1479 01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,839 kind of high I think I mean how much do 1480 01:05:14,839 --> 01:05:16,480 they charge they're charging 10 bucks 1481 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,880 for well an adult 13 years in is that 1482 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,470 season 1483 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,119 um no that's a daily rate they have SE 1484 01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:31,319 at Nuna they have Season Pass rates and 1485 01:05:31,319 --> 01:05:33,880 they have daily rates and so yes I mean 1486 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,559 um 314 for a year for a family that's in 1487 01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:39,240 the same household it doesn't say that 1488 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,640 there's a size to the to that not at all 1489 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,599 um if you wanted to go in as and do lap 1490 01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:48,079 swim it's $15 for the whole season um 1491 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:49,960 but then they have daily 1492 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,359 rates um and I just I mean the children 1493 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:56,240 under under two years are free two years 1494 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,279 to 12 years it's $6 and so that would be 1495 01:05:59,279 --> 01:06:00,680 like literally every time somebody went 1496 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,200 to the pool a kid they'd be paying six 1497 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,599 bucks per 1498 01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:08,760 kid um so I mean I probably are hoping 1499 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:09,599 that they're going to come get the 1500 01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,279 season pass could yeah no I'm sure 1501 01:06:12,279 --> 01:06:13,279 that's what they're trying to do they're 1502 01:06:13,279 --> 01:06:15,200 trying to sell season pass they want you 1503 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,440 to buy the season pass because they know 1504 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,799 you're not going to cut every day they 1505 01:06:17,799 --> 01:06:19,200 also I mean I felt that this was a 1506 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,760 little complicated they have three 1507 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,839 different seasons even they have early 1508 01:06:22,839 --> 01:06:24,960 season regular season and late season 1509 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,319 and they charge different um they have 1510 01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:31,359 different hours depending on the season 1511 01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:34,039 and they even have a late season if you 1512 01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:36,640 only are going August 5th through Labor 1513 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,880 Day you only have to pay half price for 1514 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,680 those seon obviously you're not there 1515 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,359 for the whole season but I mean I think 1516 01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:44,799 that's kind of 1517 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:47,799 complicated most of the pools in there 1518 01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:51,119 school ends and you know Labor Day the 1519 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:54,359 end of August because most of your staff 1520 01:06:54,359 --> 01:06:56,599 are high school students or college 1521 01:06:56,599 --> 01:06:58,520 students you're going back to school 1522 01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,319 have the 1523 01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:02,640 staff you have to close it y I mean the 1524 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,400 colony town pool they do do the fobs um 1525 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,440 and you have to have a resident key fob 1526 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,640 and you apply for it at no charge from a 1527 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,279 recreation office um and you have to 1528 01:07:13,279 --> 01:07:15,039 show the key fog in order to use the 1529 01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:16,599 town the town 1530 01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:18,720 pool 1531 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,480 um you so that's I guess I need you guys 1532 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,079 to kind of absorb this stuff and and 1533 01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:26,079 pick out you know 1534 01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,240 stuff that you think so I guess moving 1535 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,839 forward next year most importantly too 1536 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:32,079 is what what we might need to put into 1537 01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:33,760 the budget for next year well right 1538 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,920 that's raising cost of 1539 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:42,279 chemicals uh extra staff uh from the Boys and Girls 1540 01:07:42,279 --> 01:07:45,279 Club depending on what we want so are we 1541 01:07:45,279 --> 01:07:47,440 thinking that we'll sub submit kind of 1542 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,760 like once we look through this then 1543 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,599 individually we'll submit like what we 1544 01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,039 think our ideal thing will be or should 1545 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:55,000 it be like a shared Google doc like 1546 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,119 we're working document with everyone I 1547 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,559 mean just you could do that I I would 1548 01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:01,760 have to figure out how to do that but I 1549 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,000 think better would be to to do exactly 1550 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000 how you started out I would ask that 1551 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,520 folks take a look at this and maybe 1552 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,799 submit um you can either I guess submit 1553 01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:15,839 them to me and um what what are some of 1554 01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:19,239 the key key rules that you Paul could 1555 01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:20,880 you send me that photo that you took 1556 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,600 today because I don't have that I only 1557 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,480 have the outside the outside one I went 1558 01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:28,239 up and took um does that sound good are 1559 01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:30,040 you talking with Fe structure or are you 1560 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:36,920 talking about rules I would say both I gave you as much information as I 1561 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,199 could find for all these different pools 1562 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:40,890 so you have quite a bit of 1563 01:08:40,890 --> 01:08:42,560 [Music] 1564 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,159 data what and if we want non-residents 1565 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:48,880 in if we do what Their fee structure 1566 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,319 is interesting to see who's coming so so 1567 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:53,719 that would be good too if we could get 1568 01:08:53,719 --> 01:08:55,120 some of that data but again we won't 1569 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,319 have the the whole season until the end 1570 01:08:57,319 --> 01:08:59,679 of August 1571 01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:02,520 right um I mean I I think we should wait 1572 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,719 until we have the full data I mean we 1573 01:09:05,719 --> 01:09:07,480 we're doing review of our budgets and 1574 01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:10,880 you know we in the Parks we we can 1575 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,600 estimate some things and finalize it 1576 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,960 prior to when the budget's being 1577 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,719 finalized but yeah I mean for sure on 1578 01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:19,520 this pool the more data we have talking 1579 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,880 the Boys and Girls Club the 1580 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,120 better because we'll have more of an 1581 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,000 accurate 1582 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,920 I think the fee structure is kind M 1583 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,159 thing and obiously the cost of you know 1584 01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:32,799 you you have a pretty good handle on 1585 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:34,440 that that's but I would think that like 1586 01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:37,520 for the rules we want to kind of go into 1587 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,920 this knowing that this is going to be 1588 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,279 kind of a living thing that we're going 1589 01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,640 to have to we should just give ourselves 1590 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,279 the ability to have some autonomy to say 1591 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:46,719 you know what we thought this was a 1592 01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:48,679 really good idea but it turns out it's 1593 01:09:48,679 --> 01:09:50,440 not and and and this is the reason now 1594 01:09:50,440 --> 01:09:51,839 for those things that we not might not 1595 01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,120 be able to fory as far as rules go um so 1596 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,520 I just don't you know you should know 1597 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,600 that this isn't going to be written in 1598 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,040 stone because we want to be able to be 1599 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,360 responsive to the you know the needs of 1600 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,320 the community so I I agree with you to 1601 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,560 Mo to a certain extent but I mean we do 1602 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,960 have to have some things that I mean if 1603 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,360 we're going to print signs if we're 1604 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,960 going to if if somebody's going to come 1605 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,000 to us to get an ID we want to be able to 1606 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,080 hand them you know I I'm pretty sure 1607 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,880 that we do that with dog when I get my 1608 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,960 dog license oh new stuff going on there 1609 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,840 what new structure new structure dog 1610 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,239 licensing 1611 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:28,040 to same I still can't get them to drive 1612 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,520 it's really unbelievable to me every 1613 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,280 time I get the renewal and the dog 1614 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,040 license they still don't know how to 1615 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,560 drive but um but I'm just saying I mean 1616 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,600 obviously when we when we give somebody 1617 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,400 an ID or whatever it is that we're going 1618 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,159 to use as our form I love I really like 1619 01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:47,360 the idea of a recreational 1620 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,120 idea I I don't right I don't think that 1621 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,120 we're going to be like you know what 1622 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,719 bab's okay we're not going to like 1623 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:53,880 change like certain things there are 1624 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,840 some core things that we know that like 1625 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,159 are likely not to change I'm just 1626 01:10:57,159 --> 01:10:58,800 thinking like around like maybe we get 1627 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,840 the school district to put on their ID 1628 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,800 that is a City Recreation 1629 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,960 ID then maybe it's just a cost of a 1630 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,760 sticker or something and people who 1631 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,920 don't have that might you know adults or 1632 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,280 other people who want it we charge them 1633 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,640 what the processing fee is together 1634 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,679 it part since you a fuse for tennis what 1635 01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:22,000 if he did a a teer recreational fee I 1636 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,239 some people like to swim some people 1637 01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:25,280 like to play tennis and pick a wall 1638 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,320 you're going to use all the city's 1639 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,239 facilities there there's a price for 1640 01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:31,600 this if you're just a kid that wants to 1641 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,280 go swimming you know maybe it's at 1642 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:38,199 certain age you yearly pric is $10 for 1643 01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:41,080 the whole year um you know 1644 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,040 but you know we have people playing 1645 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,040 pickle ball we play 1646 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,040 tennis maybe it's it's tiered setup 1647 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,560 where you know you're this is a you this 1648 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,920 is a full recreational pass it allows 1649 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,440 you to pickle it and everything I agree 1650 01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,480 yeah something different for just 1651 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:02,159 swimmers for because that's a that's a 1652 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:04,040 short season pickle ball they're out 1653 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,600 there if it's nice in April they're out 1654 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,080 there if it's nice in November they're 1655 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,760 there the same tenants they're they're 1656 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,600 out there till we take the Nets down 1657 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,040 yeah the swimming too is a staffing 1658 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:18,480 issue we don't hire kids we remember 1659 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,320 kids when they come in they want to work 1660 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,679 for the city for the rest of their lives 1661 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:28,360 this is in May oh they want this job 1662 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,199 well August 1st well you know I got to 1663 01:12:32,199 --> 01:12:35,560 take time off you got to leave early to 1664 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,199 go 1665 01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:40,639 back and so we have trouble you know 1666 01:12:40,639 --> 01:12:43,400 after that first week in August starts 1667 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,880 to be a staffing issue where it's been 1668 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,800 hot whatever we just have to have the 1669 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,159 minimum and Central partment is the last 1670 01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:53,560 pool we close so Front Street will get 1671 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,760 closed shutting down quck and Bush 1672 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,400 moving people to Central Park but 1673 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,760 there'll be times when we're probably 1674 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,880 going to have to 1675 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,639 limit attendance is the pool because we 1676 01:13:04,639 --> 01:13:06,960 won't have the lifeguards 1677 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,880 right one question before um so I was 1678 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,280 thinking with the school district what 1679 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,920 about the sheriff's department you know 1680 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,280 how they do the fingerprinting they work 1681 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,040 it into fingerprinting City ID kind of 1682 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,920 thing you know they always out I'm just 1683 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,280 I just put that out there because of 1684 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,120 school and this and that so that's a 1685 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,800 good suggestion from Paul the general 1686 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,239 IDE you know just sing Single it out for 1687 01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:30,270 10 pick them 1688 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,199 off 1689 01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:34,320 everything that way you kind of like 1690 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,159 control more control because we don't 1691 01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:37,800 have that IDE you can't show up at 1692 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,400 either one of those facilities well no 1693 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,800 one's enforcing pick we going to have to 1694 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,920 we're going to have to start put some 1695 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,520 resource there because the tennis thing 1696 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,280 drives me crazy in terms of not getting 1697 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:53,080 the money those are the facility we need to protect them but even if it 1698 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,840 was this you know an idea that had a 1699 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,679 stick or something I mean it could be 1700 01:13:56,679 --> 01:13:58,199 like a tennis racket a pool you know 1701 01:13:58,199 --> 01:14:00,639 what I mean like in the fee structure 1702 01:14:00,639 --> 01:14:05,679 when you go I guess to City FLIR you 1703 01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:08,120 know I don't know wherever you'd be 1704 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,800 getting the the ID um you'd have that 1705 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,760 this is going to let you use the pickle 1706 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,480 ball courts this is going to let you use 1707 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:17,840 the tennis 1708 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,280 courts I don't know so we still have to 1709 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,679 do more is it something where um you 1710 01:14:24,679 --> 01:14:26,679 guys want to make recommendations to us 1711 01:14:26,679 --> 01:14:28,320 or how do you what should be our next 1712 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,760 step should we obviously I think we need 1713 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,000 to all look through this stuff come up 1714 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,639 with just the pool yeah I want to focus 1715 01:14:35,639 --> 01:14:38,000 on the pool right now um but that 1716 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,440 recreational IDE I think is a good one a 1717 01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:43,239 good suggestion for so it's already in 1718 01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:45,590 the 1719 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,880 book 1720 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:53,639 just the PO I mean because we've got 1721 01:14:53,639 --> 01:14:56,920 five weeks left yeah and you know even 1722 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,719 if we started doing some signs we're not 1723 01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:00,719 going to be sure what we truly want so 1724 01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,400 the signs that are there we're I agree 1725 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,000 and you know the mayor said the 1726 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,040 biggest say little but biggest is is 1727 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,159 what you decide to set for fees or 1728 01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:15,480 resident versus non-resident and I don't 1729 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,000 have any recommendations so I guess I 1730 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,960 would ask you guys to um I mean again 1731 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,719 dor deani John will take your input 1732 01:15:23,719 --> 01:15:25,199 because you're sitting here but if you 1733 01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:28,880 would send me your thoughts maybe um 1734 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,440 maybe in a couple of weeks by a couple 1735 01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:32,159 of weeks to send me your thoughts on the 1736 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,719 fees on any of these rules that the city 1737 01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:36,120 because we have to obviously have a 1738 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,440 larger report back to city council as 1739 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:43,560 well um and you have to tell me because 1740 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,000 this is the first time that I'm holding 1741 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,920 a committee meeting but I know I have to 1742 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,000 give I have to get um we to have a 1743 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,679 written report to present a report we a 1744 01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:55,760 written report that these guys at least 1745 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,480 two of the three of us have to sign off 1746 01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:00,600 on or something is that is that the case 1747 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,520 for 1748 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,520 comme no no we can just do a 1749 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,800 report we used to the clerk's office 1750 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,560 prepares the minutes and members 1751 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,510 sign okay great told 1752 01:16:14,510 --> 01:16:18,199 [Music] 1753 01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:21,120 me if you were to do a committee report 1754 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,390 at our Council meting 1755 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,520 the most recent thing I've heard she 1756 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,480 told me I can no longer give chair Once 1757 01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:33,920 Upon a Time the chair was required to 1758 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,400 give a report 1759 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,840 yeah 1760 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,920 that's so Josh will give us 1761 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,520 minutes and we don't have to I mean we 1762 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,600 can just report on it at next you can 1763 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,440 walk out of this meeting walk to the 1764 01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,400 meeting upstairs and recap what you've 1765 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,440 done at this meeting interesting okay 1766 01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:56,960 anybody Telling You Different 1767 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,520 yeah I know that we we talking about our 1768 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,159 new structure and I know the department 1769 01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:05,120 had they're providing their new proposal 1770 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,840 to us why don't you help us in that way 1771 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,960 kind of like um okay let's look at the 1772 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,840 what is what is it passing us right now 1773 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,040 drop this pool maybe a month out or or 1774 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,120 thing and then we can factor that over 1775 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,320 you know things so that would help with 1776 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,560 kind of like how you know the fee as to 1777 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:29,550 like okay costing us x amount 1778 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,440 proposal give us some data to we're 1779 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:33,840 going to need it anyway when we do the 1780 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,520 budget I when we they'll give us a 1781 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,600 budget when he does it but I I think 1782 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,679 residents probably couldn't afford 1783 01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:43,880 what the we're meeting with the 1784 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,679 Department a new shift so we're pumping 1785 01:17:48,679 --> 01:17:51,320 more water at the 1786 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,600 pool that doesn't necessarily mean our 1787 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,560 overall costs of G 1788 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,679 we used to have to pump more water for 1789 01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:03,320 the Central Park Pool the well heads and 1790 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,960 so the electric costs are going to show 1791 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,040 up like we're spending more at 1792 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,840 the pool but will our overall electric 1793 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,400 cost go up they're probably going to go 1794 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,280 up to some because it's a hot summer and 1795 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,639 people use more water so it's not 1796 01:18:21,639 --> 01:18:23,800 necessarily going to be solely the 1797 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,080 swimming pool but we may not have the 1798 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,880 ability to break that down some of the 1799 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,159 chemical costs are up more Paul's 1800 01:18:31,159 --> 01:18:33,480 looking at ways how do you manage that 1801 01:18:33,480 --> 01:18:34,679 how do you 1802 01:18:34,679 --> 01:18:36,679 mitigate uh things and some of the 1803 01:18:36,679 --> 01:18:38,840 recommendations that were 1804 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:44,229 made may not be the most cost 1805 01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:46,400 effective I I think we should have a 1806 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,880 recommendation from the Poli 1807 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,639 staff give you much information whatever 1808 01:18:52,639 --> 01:18:55,480 we have so you know 1809 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:58,800 what the trend is where it is and the 1810 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,880 first year is always a little more by 1811 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,719 trial error we after good start so you 1812 01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:07,800 know if I could ask Maybe by um August 1813 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,560 7th if you guys would just get me after 1814 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,280 you absorb this stuff and just send me 1815 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,719 some thoughts um based on what our 1816 01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:17,400 conversation was today because Paul's 1817 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,040 work is going to come to us um as we 1818 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,639 start the budget season we'll hear about 1819 01:19:22,639 --> 01:19:25,920 the costs and the expenses for 1820 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,520 um all of the recreation not I me you 1821 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960 know we knew our costs you know previous 1822 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,280 shares with the three pools even the 1823 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,760 four pools when um was open so they were 1824 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,600 pretty pretty steady the only thing that 1825 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,360 was fluctuate is we don't control the 1826 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,760 Corine or the 1827 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,360 sodium um so this pool doesn't use 1828 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,120 sodium Hy it uses what's called pack TS 1829 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,719 so you know that's that's for us um 1830 01:19:53,719 --> 01:19:56,990 there just 1831 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,719 a theater like you have people have 1832 01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:00,000 their own home 1833 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,679 pool 1834 01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:04,280 so all right it looks like we're um I 1835 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,440 appreciate everybody being here um and 1836 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:08,880 looks like we're we need to head 1837 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,880 upstairs um relatively soon it's like 1838 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,920 6:48 I think do you need to adjourn 1839 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,520 anything 6:49 oh yes um so can I have a 1840 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,040 motion to adjourn okay second okay all 1841 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,239 in favor thank you and Josh you'll get 1842 01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:26,350 us 1843 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,199 did you get that AUD for them to give me 1844 01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:34,290 input you can pull the transer from 1845 01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:35,679 [Music] 1846 01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:37,560 the 1847 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,600 e thank 1848 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:45,110 you I appreciate 1849 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,600 it 1850 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,360 so I could just 1851 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,880 um got when she calls for committee 1852 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,679 reports tonight should I say the health 1853 01:20:54,679 --> 01:20:57,159 you getting met and yeah you can just 1854 01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:59,520 say you met earlier today and you know 1855 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,120 just summarize sumarized and then um you 1856 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,800 can if you com appoint you just take the take the transcript from Josh and 1857 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,760 just submit it this week these are just 1858 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,480 not yeah yeah that's fine and I'm I'm 1859 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:17,679 out of um I'm I'm on vacation as of 1860 01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:21,000 tomorrow should do just because um with 1861 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,080 Community the the minutes for the 1862 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:29,310 community is not the same as me yeah 1863 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,000 it's happened was here okay that's fine 1864 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,880 what you should do just give um MMA 1865 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,280 heads up that you will just give a 1866 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,600 summary and you will have the transcript 1867 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,520 um later I mean I think yeah sure she no no just tell her you're going to have 1868 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,000 um you're going to submit the transcript 1869 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,120 one J provided to you okay yeah but just 1870 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:53,510 give a fre for uh meting today 1871 01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:23,510 okay 1872 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,480 e for