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connecting city council committee

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meeting for Monday August 5th

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2024 the first committee is Public

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Safety I'd like to call Public Safety

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the order we have one item on the agenda

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tonight that is the standardize the

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specifications for PPE or turnout gear

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Chief know

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good evening

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everyone okay so here this evening um

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Sam I just thinked specs that you get

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them I did very good so the request this

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evening is that um we are asking that

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our turn out gear that's the protective

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gear we wear pants and uh jacket be

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standardized our specs to be the the

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gear that we buy we currently purchase

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them from globe in the last 20 to 30

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years that we've purchased this gear and

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over that time we've made adjustments

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depending on you know where we are in in

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our fire department our pockets are

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designed a certain way for tools for

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community ation uh and it becomes very

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important that everybody has that same

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gear everybody has the same layer of

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protection and we've had very good

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dealings with globe the issue has come

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up when Globe has removed themselves

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from the state contract list they no

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longer participate in state contracts

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and that's their decision it wasn't

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anything that they did and they were

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removed so we've been discussing it with

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purchasing

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and purchasing suggested that the best

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route that we could go is to standardize

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the gear and then you put it up the bit

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chances

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are um there there may be certain things

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that only Globe does and that would kind

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of preclude them

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into you know into fulfill we're

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more concerned with maintaining the STS

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doesn't have to be from GL can be from

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whoever but we don't want the specs to

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be

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deviated so I've submitted the specs to

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Pages um for you to review and as an

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aside Globe is always very competitive

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most times being the uh cheapest bid or

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the lowest bid I should

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say thank you uh questions or

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comments at this point in time we

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haven't you said to sent that the 22

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guide recently this afternoon yes so we um Council doesn't have have that

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opportunity to look at that yet right so

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your request of us is to review that and

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then U make a decision sure all right so

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and so they're not on the state list are

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you trying are they um the only ones

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that provide what you're asked looking

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for well some of the things they do are

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privary so they would be the only ones

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to provide those aspects okay be it a

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technique be it a certain material

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there's not a lot of that but there are

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some of that sprinkled within the U the

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specs any other questions or

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comments refer to the member of the c um

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so just to clarify further so if

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we agree to these being the specs which

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I would support obviously taking your

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recommendation so if

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glow changes what they want to in other

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words it's not that we're agreeing to

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for the future we're just we're agreeing

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to these specifications yes okay not

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asking for them to be a sole source if

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that's the way that I'm being advised by

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Council then I'm good with that my end

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goal is that these turnouts be the ones

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that we've been purchasing gotcha thank

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you just wanted to clarify Mr thing is

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we can't go perspects that are solely

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written around one vendor you

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can't put out criteria IA for a Chevy

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engine where you need something that's

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in a certain horsepower range Ford may

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have it somebody else may have it so

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that as long as anything is you're

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saying some this is proprietary but

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there has to be an ability

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for other vendors to bid on this absent

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going out for a so Source where they

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have some unique product or feature that

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makes them

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stand out and be more advantageous for

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what we

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want I understand that our dealings

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maybe not so much with turnouts when we

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talk about bigger items like

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apparatus um and those specs are you

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know multiple Pages if not hundreds and

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so a lot of times or sometimes it's been

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our experience someone would bid it

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saying oh yeah we'll follow those specs

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and then when they start building it

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they don't and they can't

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and then we end up with a a product that

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would not really couldn't be pleased

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with so that's why we're asking that

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these specs be accepted and I understand

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your point Mr Mayor about proprietary

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items Mr so if I'm understanding

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correctly um the request is is based on

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obviously uh your experience and and

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that of of p is that we want to have a

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certain standard of suit we're not

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talking about necessary necessarily a

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particular vendor but this particular

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vendor hasn't been to meet the needs

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historically so what we're saying now is

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that we're going to standardize this

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give other vendors an opportunity to

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meet this standard but really the

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standard of the suit is what we're

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talking about um and it's necessary you

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know for the things that we only be able

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to consider that you guys understand

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about being out in the field right

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correct okay yeah definely support that

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any other questions or comments Mr sure

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is this spec coming directly from your department within your department

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say then I'm sorry this the

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specification is it coming directly from

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your department that's what we've

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developed over the years working with

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globe

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yes so Globe have develop St we've been

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working with them over the last 20 30

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years so for me this is all about safety

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of course we're in environments that are

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not attainable correct you're in

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environments that could be ° on the

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floor and I'm not being dramatic they be

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1500° that's the ceiling though there's

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no room for you know I don't want to

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someone to come in and go yeah we follow

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that and it you know that's proprietary

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but our things is just as good and that

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we find out maybe it's not just good it

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safety for me and you guys know me well

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enough it is number one priority it's

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just that's my number one goal is to get

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everybody home just the way they can is

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no different and I'm a strong believer

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that these turnout gear that we have is

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what works for us and I want to maintain

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that and it and it goes to you know we

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have our radios in this pocket and we

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have our descending devices in this

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pocket and cudes in this pocket and you

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say well is that really a big deal maybe

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the manufacturer says can't do it here

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for whatever reason and some of the

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reasons are like really okay no we can't

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that's fine but now if you have a fire C

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down and I know that my descending

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device is in my right pocket and my

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pants and his is on the other side that

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could cause some issues cause some

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uncertainty delay the operations of

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getting the person out does that happen

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all the time it doesn't but we have to

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plan for

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it what other departments do they serves

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you know I can't give you a list I can I

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can't do it right now but there are

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other municipalities throughout the

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country that do this and this was

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working with Finance they said that's

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the best way for you to go being that

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glo's no longer on state

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contct chief did you budget for this on

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the capital sorry the start no gears did

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you budget um it's on our regular budget

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regular

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budget so we we um sorry you had

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apparatus I think under

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capital for coming up this year yes this

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year we have uh mon monitors uh EKG

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monitors and CPR uh devices that we put

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on

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there thank you we'll come back to talk

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to you about that I'm

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sure uh Mr R no I I

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want I wanted to ask you mayor does that

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address your

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concern his explanation of of uh who

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what what are you asking of the council

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tonight to adopt our specs as they are

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now to to make that as the standard for

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our turnout

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care so when we put it out the bid these

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are the specs that have to be

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met I assumption would be we would just

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put that out to bid with those

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effects then it comes back to the

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council for approv

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of the award of the bid because it's no

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longer on state

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contract my concern right and we could

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have further discussion obviously my

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concern is right now we're paying

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approximately $4,000 for the set and

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someone comes in

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3500 and as we look at that we're going

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no you're missing a couple of things

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that's going to be when I we just put

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the specs out in the viid going out it

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doesn't then go to the council before it

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goes out to bid

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right

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okay so Maring correctly Mr May you're

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saying you don't need to adopt a policy

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as long as you bid with those the

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council wants to say these are

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the specs but

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it's we going go down a path then be

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doing stuff

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forment two two steps as opposed to you

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know if it's on state contract we just

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pick the vendor out award the

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contract this prior of the department to

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put the specs together throughout to bid

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and then it comes back to the council

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for approval when they award the bit it

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has to be within budget and hence to

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meet those terms and

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conditions yeah if I'm interpreting it

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right then you proceed with the

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specifications as you identified within

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your department so it kind of absolves

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us absolves us us of having to wait on

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it anyway so so what happens if someone

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comes in with a lower bid and Council

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says why are you about purchasing these

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why aren't you purchasing the lower bid

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one well the council can do that they

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can ask the questions when it comes back

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but if it doesn't meet the specs it's

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not going to go to the council for

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approval okay Mr car I just want to say

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um regardless of how this you know we

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move forward I just want to say that um

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I think that's other members of the

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council I'll certainly speak for myself

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and saying that you know we trust um

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your judgment and understand why you

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know the very different calculations

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that have to be made to do something

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like this and to your point that

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scenario might not happen all the time

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but if it does happen one time it can

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cost somebody's life so I'm going to

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definitely defer to you and your

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expertise when it comes to that so you

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just have my full support and and

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putting specs out the way that you see

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for thank you Mr Mayor you feel that

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maybe it's not a need to to adopt it as

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a standard and we could have the same

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outcome the by awarding the bid the

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council will be adopting

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those

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standards okay once you go out to

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bid and so I understand your concerns

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but however if you put the specs out and

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someone doesn't meet the specs if even

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if they're a lower bid but they haven't

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met all the specifications it would not

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move forward to us anyway they would

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have to meet all of the specifications

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not just because they came in a little

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bit that be my hope I've seen it

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differently on at least one other

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occasion on an

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apparatus and that's a far bigger

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discussion so something came back to us

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and we it came to us to take a look at

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even though it didn't need the

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specification is what you're saying I'm

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I don't know if it was this us or

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another us

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whatever else it was at the

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time hope

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it yes that that did

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occur the apparatus is entirely

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different ball game in half million 3/4

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over a million dollar and there is

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advantages in terms of

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standardizing the apparatus the fact to

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say we'd like everything to be a

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Chevy Chevy doesn't make a lot of fire

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trucks but

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uh you get somebody who comes in with a

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bed says that

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they've got pumping capacity the aerial

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capacity horsepower whatever looking for

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but they're A4 million dollar less than

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what the mayor and the chief has

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recommended the council might approach

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it differently and go from

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American the France the Rosen B another

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vendor

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which then creates some issues with

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training and equipment or the chief talk

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about you want the

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standardization where it just allows

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operational efficiency in the

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field it's we we've been on uh our

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mission to have as many things standard

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in the fire service as possible it's

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taken us probably 10 maybe maybe 15

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years to standardize our apparatus so

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you can go to engine one you can go to

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engine four I can send any firefighter

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with either one of those blindfold them

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tell them to give me the whatever and

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they can go to that area and get me

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whatever because they're standard that

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is extremely important and so it's the

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same philosophy with the with the gear

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now if we can accomplish that with just

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having put it out the bed and not

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accepting anything that doesn't meet

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exactly even though it's lower I'm good

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with that so if you choose not to

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standardize

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it knowing that that's going to be our

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goal I'm good either

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way currently is uh the your the

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firefighters are using the mob for GL

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manufacturing are they tail individual

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to the firefighter or are they come in

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various sizes say again I'm sorry like

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are they measured by like firefighters

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measured and given the Year everybody SP

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so okay so it's very specific can it be

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used by someone else or that's their no

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it's it's assed to the yeah

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name what happen to that they turn it

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back in back and then then we'll use it

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for training new people so they're not

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um you know on the front line but they

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go to the academy and they beat it up

360
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they're you know they're crawling and

361
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they're climbing and they're falling and

362
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they're doing all that stuff but they're

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not subjected to that

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thermal um isue are there like what come

365
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with those like guarantees that you have

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with global manufacturing so you would

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want to maintain a relationship if if a

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suit is found defective or there's an

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issue with it that you would go back to

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them where if you have another vend that

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may be

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pratic well I I wouldn't think that'd be

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problematic if there was an issue I

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would think a reputable manufacturer is

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going to stand up for that but our

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relationship with globe has been

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longstanding we have a very good

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relationship and I think that plays into

379
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the price we get

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too but I think what what the mayor

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saying is correct is that if if you have

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the specific the specifications you want

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this and this only you know not um

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anything different than that then um

385
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putting it out to bid only accepting

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those bids that would um give those

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specifications as as long as we're not

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gearing those specifications only to one

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company and we're gearing specifications

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to the needs of the fire department

391
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correct so again we're following the um

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suggestion from Finance to do with this

393
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one Mr I just want to reer this is not a

394
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decision that we would be making or I

395
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think we should be making without you so

396
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I just want to kind of I mean I

397
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definitely you know want to make sure

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that you know you be reassured that any

399
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decision that we make would be obviously

400
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I appreciate your

401
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input not to throw anybody onto the bus

402
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but finances here have

403
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anything is there anything that I don't

404
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want to step out of procedures um would

405
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you like to come forward and

406
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explain did I explain it

407
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properly a little nervous

408
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so s in every yeah my name is Sarah I'm

409
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the purchasing supervisor and in every

410
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bid you have to have an equivalency

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Clause it has to be there it's mandatory

412
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so if another company puts in a bid and

413
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they say hey it's a great product but

414
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it's not Globe which they've been

415
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accustomed to and you know they've

416
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experienced with for years and years and

417
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uh but another company comes in he says

418
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it's great it's wonderful and it's

419
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$5,000 cheaper you're not going to it's

420
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not going to work because we have we

421
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can't be that detailed in our

422
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specifications you have to have that

423
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equivalency clause in

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there um so in order when we have that

425
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Clause you have to be able to accept

426
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other bits and you can't just put those

427
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specific specifications you can't

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exclude people if they meet the

429
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specifications at a lower

430
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cost it's just the

431
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law so that's why you bring it to

432
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council you have them standardize it we

433
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still put it out to bid but now the

434
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vendors that you choose from they have

435
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to be able to offer what you're

436
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requesting because we brought it to

437
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council and Council approved it and it

438
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was resolved and that's what we decided

439
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that was best for the fire department so

440
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if I'm hearing correctly you're saying

441
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that the fire department having

442
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standardize these specifications is it

443
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sufficient enough we have to validate at

444
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the council level correct okay so I'd

445
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say with hearing that new piece of

446
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information thank you excellent

447
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job you just save the

448
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day that's what I

449
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said okay I think that puts a new uh

450
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perspective on everything that we've

451
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just heard um so that it sounds like we

452
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have to pass this so I'm willing to move

453
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that we about the specification by all

454
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right thank you second second second all

455
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those in favor I thank

456
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you we did like A4 million budget a lot

457
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easier than

458
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that not really care other items that

459
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comef second all in favor

460
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I would like to call the finance

461
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committee to order and the first item is

462
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intergovernmental cooperation agreement

463
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give

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Lieutenant I experienc last couple of

465
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years anyways we've been awarded the um

466
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Gib Grant which is the

467
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gun involved violation of elimination uh

468
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Grant and that comes through the DCJS

469
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what we're asking for today is

470
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to accept the probation department at

471
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least partial of their funding um to pay

472
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for or help reimburse an employee there

473
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which is our anti violence coordinator

474
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and ultimately what we are asking for is

475
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the probation department of the county

476
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in conc to transfer $40,000

477
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to of their give Grant funds to the city

478
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to offset payroll cost for an employee

479
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the anti antiviolence coordinator uh

480
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theam requires no further funds and will

481
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be used to pay a portion of the salary

482
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of our existing anti violence

483
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coordinator question on this

484
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item go ahead so the anti-violence

485
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coordinator works for the police

486
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department or the probation department

487
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well that's a great question

488
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I I just want to pay her

489
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$40,000 to be honest it's more of

490
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cooperation the city

491
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payroll sounds like a great

492
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collaboration though I think it's it's

493
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good to have that collaboration that's

494
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right exactly um she's she's been very

495
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helpful to understand and so

496
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thanks any other a question seeing

497
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thenone we have a motion to move this

498
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item forward second all in favor I thank

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you the next item is a connect Police

500
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Department City Towing Service

501
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Lieutenant Miki yes thank you so the

502
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city of connect advertised proposals

503
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from interested parties and the capacity

504
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of Tow Motor Vehicles of varying sizes

505
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and in all weather conditions tow rates

506
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as set by current resolutions and

507
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ordinances ultimately the recommendation

508
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is uh for the city council to authorize

509
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the mayor or as designate to enter in a

510
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contract with ac2 recovery LLC and H&K

511
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Towing Inc uh to provide towing services

512
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to the city of conect for a 3year ter

513
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awarded contracts can be amended to

514
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reflect any changes in the toll

515
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rates open questions on this

516
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item just one go ahead please all right

517
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so um we had the RFP in front of us yes

518
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so I did um have a question about

519
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something with in within the

520
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RFP it says I saw here somewhere I

521
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highlighted it all right um so under

522
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Section 8 submission requirements items

523
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number 34 and 10 refer to the fact that

524
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uh any Towing of city-owned

525
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vehicles uh they will not whoever bids

526
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on this will not be reimbursed for that

527
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so I wasn't clear on

528
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how that calculation came about and what

529
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the impact has on any businesses that actually do

530
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that Sean I I want to bank on somebody I

531
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mean I could speak sort of anecdotally

532
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but I um if we you

533
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know the history

534
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Lieutenant so the way it's been I do

535
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have an inter understanding of the

536
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contract L of the request for proposal

537
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but uh we've been operating under a

538
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contract for the last three or four 4

539
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years uh and we've been operating off of

540
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that contract now granted it's been

541
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expired uh or I should say we've been

542
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out of contract for probably the last

543
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two or maybe 3 years um as it stands now

544
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depending I'm

545
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sorry are you speaking strictly of uh

546
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City Vehicles I'm speaking strictly of

547
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that City Vehicles not other vehicles

548
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obviously they charge for that but it

549
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says here that if they charge if they um

550
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so I was saying own vehicle then they

551
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cannot ask the city for reimbursement

552
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for their work right so that that's my

553
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question

554
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cuz uh that's just part of the agreement

555
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,760
that we've been operating under for at

556
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,919
least since 2018 I suspect probably uh

557
00:25:44,919 --> 00:25:50,590
much earlier than that as

558
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159
well well my concern with that is that

559
00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:56,039
it's a this is these are best basically

560
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,039
small businesses and I'm not sure I mean

561
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:00,399
I I need know the rationale behind that

562
00:26:00,399 --> 00:26:02,960
because and me looking at this it seems

563
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480
like then this is basically cutting into

564
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,200
their profit and is there some way that

565
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,960
they're

566
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,440
being compensated some of on some other

567
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,080
the level through this well I suspect

568
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,919
again I this is my own suspicion is that

569
00:26:16,919 --> 00:26:18,720
we tell a fair amount of vehicles in the

570
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,039
city so if you are one of two vendors

571
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,240
really in the city you're probably going

572
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,240
to get some some revenue generated that

573
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,000
way probably much more so than if you

574
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
hadn't been our

575
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520
contractor so I I think that's maybe

576
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,320
just a

577
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,799
small I want to say price to pay but it

578
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,840
works in the city's favor um to do that

579
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,200
now I I don't know how many times a year

580
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,880
that happens um but again we're talking

581
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,600
essentially police cars and small um

582
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,870
small vehicles under 10,000

583
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960
lounds go ahead please but it sounds

584
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,240
like that was just part of the

585
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:06,000
negotiating of this um contract that they it sounds like the the the the

586
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,720
bidder wanted to get the contract so

587
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,600
they you know it's just a something that

588
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,679
they agreed to

589
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:17,320
no I'm I see in the RFP that means that

590
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080
we ask that that's what we have before I

591
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,279
mean but somebody have a choice somebody

592
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,600
a bidder would have the choice

593
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,760
of so so I hear what what president P

594
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
was saying so so because if this if I am

595
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,720
a small business and obviously this

596
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,399
contract is going to be important to me

597
00:27:38,399 --> 00:27:41,640
in order to operate my business

598
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,640
then I might go and you know enter in

599
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,559
but I think that so your point if I'm an

600
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,159
owner and I got to send somebody out

601
00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:52,200
then I still have to pay that per

602
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,200
there's still Co cost associated with

603
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,399
that so as I'm kind of putting that

604
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:57,440
together in my head I'm just thinking

605
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,120
like okay what does that look like uh

606
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,279
you know is that a cost of doing

607
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,080
business with the city is that how

608
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,360
that's considered a cost of doing

609
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:09,919
business with the city that you have to City vehicles for free cuz I don't

610
00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:11,240
want

611
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,399
H historically TOS have this contract

612
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:18,480
his tow City vehicles at no charge and

613
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
we hope that that is a very

614
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,279
infrequent scenario but it does happen

615
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,320
where a police car will break down or a

616
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,990
vehicle's in an accident and to be

617
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,679
tow Lieutenant did any of the biders

618
00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:37,720
made um reference to this uh this item

619
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600
or made objection to it no not for

620
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760
anything under 10,000 so again they've

621
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600
been operating this way since at least

622
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,880
2018 so really been kind of a standard

623
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,360
um standard procedure at this

624
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,919
point I'd say wanting to be responsive

625
00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:57,760
to the comments around the table is it

626
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,159
EAS quantifiable just how many times

627
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:01,880
we've used this the mayor's Point like

628
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,960
if it's something that has been rely

629
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840
enforced I think it's kind of a new

630
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,200
point but if it's something that's been

631
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,159
trending upwards I think it is important

632
00:29:09,159 --> 00:29:12,200
for us to be considered of our small

633
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240
businesses again I can just speak sort

634
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,679
of anecdotally i i i as sort of

635
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:19,320
Technology gets better and you hope they

636
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,960
break down less and drive your safer so if there is a trend I suspect

637
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,600
we would be on a lower Trend uh though I couldn't say that right here now I you

638
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,950
know just going off of what I'm

639
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,389
thinking one two a

640
00:29:37,399 --> 00:29:39,519
month I just you know just keeping in

641
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,240
mind the the current uh resolutions

642
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000
regarding tow is the contractor May

643
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,799
charge a rate up to

644
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,000
$160 with an additional $35 fee paid to

645
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,919
the city of SKC so they can charge up to

646
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:57,720
$160 for current resolution on this for

647
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,120
this type of operation so um

648
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,120
that's a private tow if we asked them to

649
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,880
tow it's

650
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,240
$260 so you know without getting into

651
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,000
the minds of those who put in

652
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,919
proposals they're looking you know

653
00:30:14,919 --> 00:30:16,559
that's something they keep in mind they

654
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:20,080
say okay right how many toes does the

655
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,000
city have versus how many toes does the

656
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
city ordered to have on on other types

657
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,320
of vehicles so gu just go ahead I'd like

658
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,799
to speak from experience my previous

659
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:31,279
role was in the Traffic Division we had

660
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,480
a longstanding relationship with the two

661
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
cont a toe companies that were entering

662
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,320
or would like to enter in agreement with

663
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,159
um that's never been brought up as a

664
00:30:41,159 --> 00:30:43,840
source of contention I would say that if

665
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,200
we were to potentially lower those

666
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,880
standards would we attract other biders

667
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,760
that may not be as qualified uh and

668
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,480
maybe would be this would open up

669
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,279
perhaps a whole can of worms I can say

670
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:58,039
with certainty now that the two uh bids

671
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,480
that we have are excellent agencies

672
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,679
they're responsive uh they come

673
00:31:02,679 --> 00:31:05,080
essentially in all all weather uh I

674
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,880
would hate to compromise anything that

675
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,360
we have with those two um and that's

676
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,310
just again just from my own

677
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,799
experience so if uh if one of the

678
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,600
potential contractors because I know so

679
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,720
we've been dealing with the same

680
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,399
contractors for a number of years so if

681
00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:25,279
one of the potential contractors or both

682
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,240
of them said hey um I feel like for

683
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,880
whatever reason maybe because it's

684
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,200
starting to eat more and more to the

685
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,320
bottom line to say when this RP pain

686
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,080
comes out says or came out says you know

687
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,799
this is this has become a hardship for

688
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,279
me how how was that hand would that be

689
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,760
handled and then we can I would have to

690
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,200
defer to Sean would that be a

691
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,919
contractual change or would that be a

692
00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:50,509
change in the

693
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,399
RF hey Sean

694
00:31:53,399 --> 00:31:57,960
if the question was if down the road or

695
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,880
even now when the contractor was

696
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,480
uncomfortable with towing a city vehicle

697
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,639
for free how could they change that down

698
00:32:04,639 --> 00:32:06,200
the road that that is that separate from

699
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080
the RP would that be more contractual

700
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,760
you know the council we can do here

701
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,360
tonight just to you know help move

702
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,519
things along is then accept the two

703
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,000
recommended proposals and the uh RFP

704
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,360
does allow us into contract negotiations

705
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
with those twoo so if there those issues

706
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
then we can come back with the final

707
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,039
contract draft for your review we can

708
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,519
just move the for then we can have

709
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,080
discussions with the uh the two selected

710
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,919
uh vendors and then have further

711
00:32:34,919 --> 00:32:36,639
discussions because the RFP already

712
00:32:36,639 --> 00:32:38,240
allows for that and maybe that's the

713
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
best way to

714
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,159
go so RFP go out as is right and then

715
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:49,480
when it comes down no the I'm sorry Mr M go ahead please so you're

716
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960
saying let the r let us go into contract

717
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440
based on this RFP the RFP they've

718
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,039
already submitted their proposals based

719
00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:01,039
on this RFP mm the RFP allows us to go

720
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,000
in contract with any respondents whose

721
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360
qualif qualifications conforms with and

722
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,279
meets the specs by the city which we've

723
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,120
put before you okay so we

724
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,399
can accept those uh accept those

725
00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:16,440
respondents and then we can enter into

726
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760
contract uh negotiations if the city

727
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,960
council so wishes pursu to the terms of

728
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,470
the

729
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,240
RFP that's how we so we can just move it

730
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,039
forward and then have the contract

731
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,279
follow behind and then you review the

732
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,440
proposed

733
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,519
contract so with that said then the

734
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,399
recommendation to the council here that

735
00:33:35,399 --> 00:33:38,440
we need to change it to enter into a

736
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,960
contract negot negotiations contract

737
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,279
negotiation go ahead the contract

738
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:46,440
negotiations are with the mayor if the

739
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,720
council doesn't you no but no I mean if

740
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960
there's any concerns you wish to

741
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,960
incorporate into the negotiations we can do that right here and now and

742
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,360
then obviously mayor will be authorized

743
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,600
to sign the contract at a at a later

744
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
date if you so wish to take a look at

745
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,159
what the terms and conditions

746
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:09,119
are but I just just just move the the

747
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,560
process okay we've selected these two

748
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,480
let's have contract

749
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,639
negotiations and and it says uh when's

750
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,599
in the best interest in Su to do so we

751
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,399
can have negotiations with the

752
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:25,159
respondents and uh and move from there

753
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,960
with that said should we have a draft I

754
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,079
mean draft of a contract to look over we

755
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,879
can do that we can we can do that as

756
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,359
there's no we did receive this evening

757
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:37,960
but that was more a sample okay so we

758
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,639
kind of like if we can have a draft of

759
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,919
both of the two um company well the same

760
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,480
we'll have a sample just framework draft

761
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,599
a draft just a SLE I think that would be

762
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,280
the best way forward to have a draft and

763
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,320
let us review it and kind of move

764
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,639
forward based on what is in that dra

765
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,040
okay but in the in the in the short term

766
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,640
a resolution just accepting these two as the qualifications and then

767
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400
authorizing uh at a you negotiations to

768
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,480
go forward is that is that

769
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880
agreeable in other words we're not we're

770
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,200
just saying yes they they've met the

771
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,680
requirements and we're going to have

772
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,880
further discussions

773
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,480
with goad please yes I mean we've

774
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
already received these bids these

775
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,280
companies out of their own choice are

776
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,200
bidding based on this RFP so again I

777
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,760
mean it is a free market in the in the

778
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,400
United States that isue and they have

779
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880
determined that this is okay with them

780
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,280
these companies and we are you know in

781
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,680
the best interest of the city uh meing

782
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,960
to move forward so I I you know maybe

783
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
next year or next time we have to do

784
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,880
this um we look at it again

785
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,720
but we can't control the companies could

786
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,079
have decided not to put in vids if they

787
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,920
didn't like the the terms of this

788
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,839
RFP right again I think we're just

789
00:36:02,839 --> 00:36:04,839
asking that we move forward the RFP is

790
00:36:04,839 --> 00:36:08,920
out so there's still contracts we can

791
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,880
discussions and then all we're asking is

792
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,280
to go

793
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,119
forward interesting I'm move to go

794
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,240
forward have we done this in the past

795
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,599
where we adopted RFP or we just go

796
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,040
straight into the contract and the

797
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,720
contract before the council the council

798
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,960
review the contract make Amendment if

799
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,560
there's any and then move forward

800
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,680
authoriz we're just moving this forward

801
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640
because there's two vendors proposal

802
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,760
this way we can have those discussions

803
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,800
this way and you've also indicated some

804
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
concerns and they may have some concerns

805
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,599
so I think we should just go right into

806
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:44,960
the draft and have the draft and then

807
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,880
move

808
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,119
forward I

809
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:54,069
mean why why this and then the draft

810
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,839
contract I'm just suggesting that we we

811
00:36:58,839 --> 00:37:01,200
could do it in two weeks but I'm saying

812
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,720
this way we these are the two we've

813
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,040
selected there's a contract on meeting

814
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,800
of the mins in two weeks we'll have the

815
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,079
draft contract for you all to review and

816
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,079
then do a final resolution but at least

817
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,599
this way we can move it forward there

818
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:16,760
these are the vendors that we're going

819
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,000
to be that's this the resolution is to

820
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,839
for the mayor to enter into a contract

821
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:24,240
but I think the the chairman wishes to

822
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,280
no but I think we we're authorizing the

823
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,800
mayor so to enter into a contract

824
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,359
correct we don't even we don't know what

825
00:37:30,359 --> 00:37:32,760
the contract is so we can send you the

826
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,119
draft so that's why I'm asking if we can

827
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,200
ask the draft review the draft and move

828
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,720
forward we don't even need to adopt this

829
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,480
we go straight into the contract and

830
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000
move forward with the recommendation

831
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,760
from the police department and Port they

832
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,960
are recommending that we select AC

833
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,359
Towing and HK we just need the draft

834
00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:51,440
contract and move

835
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,160
follow and that what Mr suggesting so

836
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,839
you want to do that Monday night I mean

837
00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,160
we can provide

838
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,000
before I willing to to to me okay we can

839
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,599
do that too before

840
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,640
Monday do I think that that's the way

841
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,400
forward I don't I can't recall that we

842
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,520
did

843
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
this on the Cil here okay that we move

844
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,440
something separate from contract or RFP

845
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,200
then contract let's stick to what we've

846
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,560
been doing contract before the console

847
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,359
we review make Amendment if there's any

848
00:38:22,359 --> 00:38:23,800
move

849
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040
forward so can we get that draft the two

850
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,280
draft

851
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000
well do have a sample sample contract

852
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,440
and send it out to the comp what do you

853
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,400
mean sample in other words the framework

854
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960
of the comp not with the names in it yet

855
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520
because this is just you know if they're

856
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
this way it's open for you to add any

857
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,000
terms and conditions that you so wish no

858
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,280
you you selected to

859
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,800
company what I'm saying is is that if

860
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,480
there's any terms and conditions you

861
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,440
want to add you can oh but you want the

862
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,599
names of yeah yeah we we we power up it

863
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:58,119
to companies so everything should be

864
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,480
added there and if we as a council have

865
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,599
changes we'll we'll send back those

866
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,720
changes okay and if there's no changes

867
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,079
then we'll adopt

868
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,520
it go ahead please the only thing that I

869
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,200
would ask is because my concern was

870
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,400
about whether this cost is impacting the

871
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,839
small businesses so if if if is there a

872
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:19,560
way that we can get the information that

873
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,720
I that isn't impacting them

874
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:24,839
somehow in terms of us you know what the

875
00:39:24,839 --> 00:39:27,560
cost is to the businesses to to to be

876
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,400
doing that work without being

877
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,400
compensated yeah we can certainly run a

878
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,280
report and we can call we can um analyze

879
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,119
how many times they tow our vehicle sure

880
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,640
we do that all

881
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,839
right I would be

882
00:39:44,839 --> 00:39:48,079
that that would be my only

883
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,480
yes finance committee are we good with

884
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,599
that so we're going to have

885
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:58,319
to recess

886
00:39:58,319 --> 00:40:01,319
and finance committee

887
00:40:01,319 --> 00:40:05,680
Monday just you just move forward and

888
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319
just and then just forward with the

889
00:40:08,319 --> 00:40:10,480
resolution send the contract and if if

890
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,520
it's not to your liking just pull the

891
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,920
item from the agenda and then I'll come

892
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,930
back if

893
00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:21,599
[Music]

894
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,040
necessary yeah I I I would rather see

895
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,359
let's U recess so Monday evening

896
00:40:28,359 --> 00:40:30,319
five well you want to do the rest of the

897
00:40:30,319 --> 00:40:32,960
items first no no no I'm just saying

898
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960
that at the end we'll recess if you're

899
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,839
okay with that we can discuss it at the

900
00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:41,520
end at 5:30 Monday

901
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,760
M are you good with that yes okay all

902
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,160
right thank you very good thank you you

903
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,760
help from us no

904
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,960
problem the next item is the

905
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,839
Y WCA for critical repair contract

906
00:40:56,839 --> 00:41:04,670
Amendment

907
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,880
good evening city council mayor it's hot

908
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,079
in here it's very hot in here we have to

909
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,319
turn off the air so people can be heard

910
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:14,960
I know I'm sorry all

911
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,720
right um today we have the department of

912
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,359
development and planning received a

913
00:41:20,359 --> 00:41:23,599
request from our sub and the YWCA in

914
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,359
regards to arle funding they are looking

915
00:41:26,359 --> 00:41:29,079
to modify budget from the allocation

916
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,480
they received for critical um repairs um

917
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,440
today we have the CEO come here to

918
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,079
answer any questions in regards to those

919
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,160
changes I did submit the letter um to

920
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,760
the council for review so Kim is here

921
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:47,000
with her team kayb from the thank you Alexandria hi everybody good

922
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,880
to see you all again once again um this

923
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,079
is Kyla she is our grant coordinator

924
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,079
writer extraordinaire I'm Kim I'm the

925
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,839
CEO at the YW we'll take very few

926
00:41:56,839 --> 00:41:58,200
minutes of of your time and ky's going

927
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,000
to start are you good here we go hi

928
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,119
everyone so back in Fall of 2021 we

929
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,119
received the Ora Grant from the city uh

930
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,119
for critical Capital needs at our main

931
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,760
site at 44 Washington Avenue this grant

932
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,069
was for

933
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:27,309
$364,900 so far with $358,900

934
00:42:27,319 --> 00:42:29,160
to the larger need for affordable

935
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,640
housing in um skan County our original

936
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Grant the budget covered replacing the

937
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,240
windows at 44 Washington Avenue uh

938
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,160
rebuilding the front steps fixing the

939
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,760
dra drainage pits and getting a new

940
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,000
water

941
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,680
main so um as Kyla said our biggest

942
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,559
priority is our Harbor House project

943
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,240
just so you know we've been working on

944
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,240
that project since 2017 the project took

945
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,440
kind a new scope um for those of you who

946
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,760
have been here that along with us um we

947
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,720
had it in three phases one being the

948
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,960
building the new building um being

949
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,839
created behind us and then our current

950
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:09,280
building built in

951
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,079
1929 um being renovated and now we've

952
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:13,800
added an additional third phase which is

953
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,319
moving our Early Learning Center which

954
00:43:15,319 --> 00:43:19,200
is not part of this request um and so we

955
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,160
with those two things happening and now

956
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,599
finally coming to fruition in Spring of

957
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,720
2025 all the dollars close to $47

958
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:27,839
million

959
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:30,640
already um we are hoping to go under

960
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,559
construction let's say March so what we

961
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,720
would like to use these dollars for is

962
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,880
to support that Harbor House project um

963
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,839
and so Kyla is going to go on to the

964
00:43:40,839 --> 00:43:43,359
next section and we're almost done so

965
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,440
the bud budget modification we are

966
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,760
hoping to spend $98,000 of the full

967
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Budget on the water main replacement

968
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,280
this is part of the project that's

969
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,960
already underway we're in the final um

970
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,160
steps of finalizing the contractor

971
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,440
selection we request that the remaining

972
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:27,589
$266,400

973
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:30,520
um for which funds are most needed most

974
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,640
dire um and we uh without a doubt are

975
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
confident that we will expend all arpa

976
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,760
funds by the June 30th 2026 deadline so

977
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,280
to round it all up we sorry oh sorry not

978
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,920
try to give space we are using the funds

979
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,319
as we requested them initially in

980
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:55,800
2021 um we were awarded them at the end

981
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,000
of 2021 and now we're almost four years

982
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,559
from that so as you can see the project

983
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,760
has taken some different iterations but

984
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,800
we are ready but we needed to have a

985
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,200
little bit more flexibility so that's

986
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,520
really what we're coming to the council

987
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
for is a little additional flexibility

988
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,640
in regards to spending the dollars on

989
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,200
areas in the building um most of them

990
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,359
the same areas Windows front steps well

991
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:20,559
the front steps are done but the

992
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:23,000
drainage pits the water main um just to

993
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640
make sure that we are not overstepping

994
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,280
the use of the ARA funds and that's

995
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,960
really why we're here tonight so thank

996
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,359
you for your time does anyone have

997
00:45:30,359 --> 00:45:32,359
questions how much did you say for the

998
00:45:32,359 --> 00:45:34,240
water me

999
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,559
$98,000 okay here have

1000
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:41,319
62,000 that was four years ago yes yes

1001
00:45:41,319 --> 00:45:43,400
we now that we have the new bids and

1002
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000
this was the lowest um eligible bid that

1003
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
we received just again demonstrating how

1004
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,640
much construction costs have we have

1005
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,520
that in letter dat to July 10th yes and

1006
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,520
we we went to bid um just the weeks

1007
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,079
after that letter was written that

1008
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,280
letter I believe also includes Nava's

1009
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,400
house as part of the the project we

1010
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,200
decided to put before the council

1011
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,079
everything for Harbor House because that

1012
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:10,040
way it is specifically at the exact same

1013
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,640
site that the original AR funds were

1014
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,440
requested

1015
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,040
for go ahead please so so we have here

1016
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,400
what the original scope um was

1017
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,839
for what happens to all of these things

1018
00:46:22,839 --> 00:46:24,400
that that you wanted the money for

1019
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,319
they're wrapped into the larger $47

1020
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,079
million project so we're not going to

1021
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,839
replace windows right now at the

1022
00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:33,319
beginning of the project now that we are

1023
00:46:33,319 --> 00:46:36,160
getting our $47 million a part of that

1024
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160
is the window project um so it's just

1025
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,319
the the software cost at the beginning

1026
00:46:41,319 --> 00:46:44,440
of doing site prep that is is more

1027
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,240
integral I mean we didn't know that at

1028
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,359
the time in

1029
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,359
2021

1030
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:52,920
so go ahead please so so what I'm

1031
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,760
understanding is that the initial scope

1032
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,640
of work that you want wanted to get done

1033
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,440
will still be we still will be getting

1034
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,480
done it's just a different pot of pot of

1035
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200
money okay all right okay yes when we

1036
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,000
first wrote the grant essentially these

1037
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,880
were Standalone projects not wrapped

1038
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,520
into the larger scope now we're just

1039
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,559
hoping for the flexibility with the

1040
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,800
larger Capital stack to to um really

1041
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,630
wrap it in

1042
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,760
that did we did we not change this um

1043
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,319
one time the the requirement initially

1044
00:47:27,319 --> 00:47:32,200
you asked us to do was 365,000 was to do

1045
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,319
certain project and then you came to us

1046
00:47:35,319 --> 00:47:38,800
and ask us to change the the allocation

1047
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
to the Early Learning Center but it was

1048
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,800
outside of the city and so it was denied

1049
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,200
right am I correct in saying that

1050
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,160
correct it didn't actually um they

1051
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,839
wanted to move that money to the Early

1052
00:47:48,839 --> 00:47:50,720
Learning Center it was in Rotterdam and

1053
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,359
from our prior experience we're not

1054
00:47:52,359 --> 00:47:55,119
paying for things outside the city so

1055
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:59,920
didn't even get that not accept not AC

1056
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,880
so Mr M I do have um are you talking

1057
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,480
about this do you have

1058
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,240
it yeah go ahead so initially in in our

1059
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,000
resolution that we did in

1060
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,319
2022 um this

1061
00:48:15,319 --> 00:48:18,920
364,000 for uh permanent housing for the

1062
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:27,400
400 um single occup and units right and the repair of the building at 44 24

1063
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,520
Washton and this is still yes but the

1064
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Harbor House is really is it really at

1065
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:37,400
24 is it behind 44 Harbor House is the

1066
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,280
entire project now so it's the

1067
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,520
renovation of the current 1929 building

1068
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,400
and the establishment of the new

1069
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,720
building the funds that we're asking for

1070
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,079
you to reallocate or to be more flexible

1071
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,799
with are for that 44 Washington Avenue

1072
00:48:51,799 --> 00:48:55,359
1929 building and some of it for Harbor

1073
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:58,319
HS based on the entire project is called

1074
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:00,119
Harbor House it's just a project name

1075
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,960
yes Harbor House is two two phases so it

1076
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,200
includes the new development behind 44

1077
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Washington Avenue but it's also the

1078
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,640
substantial Rehabilitation of the 44

1079
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,710
Washington Avenue affordable housing

1080
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,480
units let's move there go ahead because

1081
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,960
in in the originally in

1082
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,520
2022 they're separate you have Harbor

1083
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,440
House which we gave $750,000 to and you

1084
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,160
call that something separate Harbor

1085
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,240
House and then the critical need

1086
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,520
was was separate so it was

1087
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,280
ited one B project so at that time it

1088
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,559
was a two-phase project that we were

1089
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,000
trying to get funded separately to do

1090
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,079
different funding streams since then

1091
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,599
we've put all of the funding together to

1092
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:46,440
do it in one phase being the renovation

1093
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,640
and the creation of the new building so

1094
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,920
it is all one phase of building going on

1095
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,720
and this is because of the tax credits

1096
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,160
that are available is that we are more

1097
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,119
competitive if we were to do it all in

1098
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:00,920
one stage

1099
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,400
lously thank you

1100
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,160
sure go ahead please uh thank you for

1101
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,240
the overview my one question is you said

1102
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,000
these new modifications for that

1103
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,680
allocated money you said they weren't

1104
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,319
wrapped into the larger project can you

1105
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:17,319
just explain why that we thought we were

1106
00:50:17,319 --> 00:50:19,200
going to get funded a lot sooner for the

1107
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,920
larger project and so as we were waiting

1108
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,440
and waiting and waiting and now we're

1109
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,119
getting the funding there was just

1110
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,359
there's this overlap now because as

1111
00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:31,480
xenolith who is our partner in the big

1112
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,720
project and they are the the contractors

1113
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,240
and the developers they're like we don't

1114
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,799
think we should do windows if we have to

1115
00:50:37,799 --> 00:50:41,240
do a baitman yet repeat that again like

1116
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,760
why would we put in new windows if we

1117
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,640
have to do let a batement and as best as

1118
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,559
a batement like so we would actually be

1119
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,400
wasting the city's money if we did some

1120
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,760
of these projects first rather than

1121
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,480
doing it in the way that you know

1122
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,839
christic construction is saying we

1123
00:50:54,839 --> 00:50:56,839
should do it so this has been a large

1124
00:50:56,839 --> 00:50:58,359
process of conversation to make sure

1125
00:50:58,359 --> 00:51:01,920
we're not wasting dollars by doing new

1126
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,319
windows and then all of a sudden we've

1127
00:51:03,319 --> 00:51:04,400
got to rip those out because there's

1128
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,680
this best of behind them so does that

1129
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,040
expl yes sir sure in your U original ask

1130
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,720
in the application you you mentioned

1131
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,400
that you need immediate need for repairs

1132
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,559
are those falling into safety

1133
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,160
concerns and why why why not why not

1134
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,559
repair them with this

1135
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:26,200
money we we are but they need to be

1136
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,920
wrapped in into the larger project

1137
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,160
because there's steps that have to be

1138
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,640
taken like step one is not to put new

1139
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,480
windows in Step One is going to be to do

1140
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,960
a batement within the building because

1141
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,680
it's a 1929 building so there's a lot of

1142
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,920
asbest or lead that needs to be taken

1143
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,960
care of and then we'll move on like I am

1144
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,119
not a developer nor am I a construction

1145
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,040
contractor so they have asked us to

1146
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,640
request this reallocation in light of

1147
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,960
the entire larger project to make sure

1148
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,799
we're not wasting the city's dollars by

1149
00:51:52,799 --> 00:51:55,799
doing something that seems a bit out of

1150
00:51:55,799 --> 00:51:57,559
line with the process that should take

1151
00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,880
place that's why I'm trying to get in

1152
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,799
terms of it was it was needed there for

1153
00:52:01,799 --> 00:52:04,559
immediate repair so why not do it why

1154
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,680
wait until next year cuz we'd be ripping

1155
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,520
them out and wasting the dollars to do

1156
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,319
other things that need to be done around

1157
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:16,000
say the windows or the drain pits or and

1158
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520
that's why the water man is the first

1159
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,799
thing we're doing CU that's kind of like

1160
00:52:18,799 --> 00:52:20,440
a hard crost you need a good water main

1161
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,680
to be able to put in the number of units

1162
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:30,630
we're going to be putting in

1163
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,400
I just want a clarification you said who recommended that you well the

1164
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,400
construction company okay y like Chris

1165
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,319
say is our big contractor on the larger

1166
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:44,040
project the $47 million project so we we

1167
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,520
don't want to go put new windows in if

1168
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,000
they're going to come back and say well

1169
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,400
now we're going to rip those out because

1170
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,680
so you know we're we're trying to work

1171
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,960
with there's nine or 10 of us on this

1172
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,839
project team so so far none of this work

1173
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,280
has been done well the water main is

1174
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,559
under we've got the specs and we've got

1175
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,599
the drawings and we've s it out to bid

1176
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,119
and we've got an approval from the city

1177
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:10,040
for the bidder and they're coming on

1178
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
site this week to actually do a final

1179
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,799
walkth through so that's going to

1180
00:53:14,799 --> 00:53:17,839
proceed imminently but the other areas

1181
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:18,760
are

1182
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,640
not and And to clarify that the timeline

1183
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,559
has changed because as we said we had to

1184
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,640
um pretty substantially change our

1185
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,720
strategy for the project at first it was

1186
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,240
two different phases and we were

1187
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,040
pursuing a different line of tax credits

1188
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,079
um which was deeply competitive and

1189
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,040
because we are in a historic district we

1190
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520
were already ineligible because our

1191
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,319
costs were higher no matter what we we

1192
00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:45,040
did so going toward this um new so from

1193
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,440
9% to 4% 9% to 4% that is why the

1194
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,480
timeline has shifted but we are really

1195
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,559
confident now we have our Capital sta in

1196
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:54,599
order and we're ready to go in early

1197
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:58,390
spring 2025

1198
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,160
go ahead please I know you can never be

1199
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,880
100% confident how confident are you

1200
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,319
that there are no other obstacles or

1201
00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:05,079
barriers ahead or how much of that

1202
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:08,440
funding is completely align I don't even

1203
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,720
want to think about that but um I'm

1204
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:13,480
going to say 99% sure we've spoken with

1205
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,200
people at the state level who were in

1206
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,640
conversations with all of the different

1207
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,160
funding sources which you know isi

1208
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,200
dollars the 4% tax credit folks uh uh

1209
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,880
HH HFA all all of the letters so um and

1210
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,200
they're all saying this is a go so I

1211
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,000
have to say unless some catastrophic

1212
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,040
world event

1213
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,799
happens we are a

1214
00:54:39,799 --> 00:54:42,400
go so that's kind of the follow up on

1215
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,280
his question so you you believe that all

1216
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,960
your money is going to be because you

1217
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,119
have a significant Gap the current Gap

1218
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:51,839
based on this this I don't know what

1219
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:52,960
you're looking at I'm looking at the

1220
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,640
letter that we said just the current Gap

1221
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,000
that

1222
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,160
that's so the the HCR funds that we are

1223
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,280
pursuing this is the final Capital stack

1224
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,559
that is the the tax credits that we were

1225
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,359
referring to we are essentially just in

1226
00:55:08,359 --> 00:55:10,480
line we're in line with the 4% tax

1227
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,559
credit yes um we have to wait until we

1228
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:17,200
are first in Q essentially and and that

1229
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280
is the remaining Gap there that we are

1230
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,039
referring to so when you go for a 4% tax

1231
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:24,119
credit the difference between 4% and 9%

1232
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:26,400
is that you get in a line for your

1233
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,880
project and we keep being told we are we

1234
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,680
are right there um meaning and they've

1235
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,559
given us the date they have given us the

1236
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,799
date of spring 2025 when we'll be ready

1237
00:55:36,799 --> 00:55:39,640
Darren Scott from HCR has spoken with us

1238
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,960
and told us that so until our number

1239
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,280
comes up in the queue it's like waiting

1240
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,160
for a transplant we don't

1241
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,720
know right when it's going to happen but

1242
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,920
all of the powers that be are saying

1243
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,039
early spring be ready to go and we are

1244
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,520
proceeding with our developers and all

1245
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,960
of the I mean we meet weekly sometimes

1246
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,440
twice weekly with everybody on the team

1247
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,280
because we're we're going like like I I

1248
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,880
don't know what else I can do other than

1249
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,480
I would need to get a letter from HCR

1250
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,960
but 4% tax credits don't work that

1251
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,520
way anybody

1252
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,119
else go ahead please so you say pending

1253
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:20,200
from the city 1.5

1254
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,079
million

1255
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,359
home the the home funds we are

1256
00:56:24,359 --> 00:56:27,760
reapplying for in order to um be better

1257
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,720
on the funding timeline with our home

1258
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,960
funds it was a timeline discrepancy so

1259
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,680
we have to wait for the answer is what

1260
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,280
we were told why we didn't get the home

1261
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,119
off which is a 1.5 request but we have

1262
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:46,520
47 40 let's say 44 other million dollars

1263
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,400
we're going to be using this isn't a

1264
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,559
like a one month project it's like a 12

1265
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,000
to 18 month project so the project will

1266
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,960
get underway with all the other dollars

1267
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:04,190
in the stack

1268
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:13,670
okay any other

1269
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:23,750
questions Mr Man put your hands

1270
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,319
with how this question for the council I

1271
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:29,079
mean I I can't recall that we move

1272
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:31,440
funding from one project to another

1273
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,359
project I think we move funding within

1274
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:36,559
the same project but a a little bit of

1275
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,760
deviation from the description the

1276
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,920
specification so this is that's all

1277
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,039
that's happening here is just moving it

1278
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:44,799
internally within the building what's

1279
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:47,359
getting done at what

1280
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:52,630
time that's what we

1281
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,960
do go have pleas I'm I'm comfortable

1282
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,480
with this I mean I think that have done

1283
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,520
their due diligence the construction

1284
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,079
project as you know again like Kim I'm

1285
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,520
not a construction manager or a

1286
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,480
contracting company but I think we all

1287
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,480
know that things can change um so again

1288
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,880
it is just using our money

1289
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,480
um to meet the changing needs that have

1290
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,520
happened but it's still the same project

1291
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,760
which is obviously still a really

1292
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,760
valuable project in terms of the folks

1293
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,640
that will receive this housing um you

1294
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,960
know it's very important that they do so

1295
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,960
I'm I'm in support of this go ahead

1296
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,839
please so I I so my question earlier was

1297
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:35,599
around like the scope of the project um

1298
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:38,160
to make sure that the original scope was

1299
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,640
still going to be met which is really

1300
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,920
important to me um and I think that my

1301
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,720
question is not around like you know

1302
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,280
importance of this project or whether

1303
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,119
it's important or not it just it does

1304
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,559
kind of make me think about like um our

1305
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,920
flexibility with other projects as well

1306
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,119
right and I want to just you know again

1307
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,720
I'm always going to be um trying to

1308
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,440
encourage us to use an equitable lens

1309
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,880
when we approach everything that we're

1310
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,589
doing here and I just I'm wondering

1311
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:14,839
about our consistency of um kind of

1312
00:59:14,839 --> 00:59:18,480
being flexibility with uh other projects

1313
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,079
that that we have too so that's just a

1314
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:21,599
thought in my had as far as this right

1315
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,640
here um I think that

1316
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,599
um if the buin of school for the project

1317
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:29,079
it's going to be met um then you know I

1318
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:32,440
could see why how we can make a a

1319
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,799
justification for doing it um but to

1320
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:39,039
your to what I think your point was um I

1321
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:40,880
don't know if we've had other projects

1322
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,559
come forth and request something similar

1323
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:48,079
and we haven't um given it to them based

1324
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,720
on what the original agreement was so I

1325
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,079
just think about that stuff I think that

1326
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:53,799
we want to continue to be flexible as we

1327
00:59:53,799 --> 00:59:56,720
can

1328
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,720
go ahead please and this project has

1329
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,400
changed dramatically in terms of its

1330
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,520
scope where it was originally proposed

1331
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,559
to do the new building on the rear of

1332
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:11,359
the campus and leave the front building

1333
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:15,520
in a disrespect less than a desirable

1334
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,920
condition then try and line up the money

1335
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,359
for it what has happened is they've

1336
01:00:20,359 --> 01:00:23,480
lined up the money for the whole project

1337
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,240
as a result that it's taken a little bit

1338
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,240
longer but there are these components of

1339
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,039
the water line some of the other

1340
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:32,599
features the front steps that were done

1341
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:35,359
that were always originally planned to

1342
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:38,079
be done just the timing has changed a

1343
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:40,599
little bit and so I again would ask the

1344
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:42,920
council to move ahead with these

1345
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,920
recommended changes and that is going to

1346
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,400
be a project that reflects well on that

1347
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,160
organization it is going to dramatically

1348
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,119
increase its ability to serve its

1349
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:57,680
targeted group and and everybody's going

1350
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,510
to look good at the end of

1351
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,520
this go ahead please I just have a

1352
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,319
question this question so what if for

1353
01:01:09,319 --> 01:01:11,799
what happens if the 1.5 million when you

1354
01:01:11,799 --> 01:01:13,920
go to the next round I and how it goes

1355
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,079
you you put it in and it doesn't work

1356
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:17,680
out you put it in again it doesn't work

1357
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,319
out what happens to your project if the

1358
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:23,359
1.5 million does not come through well

1359
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:26,839
1.5 million out of 47 million is really

1360
01:01:26,839 --> 01:01:32,280
a small and I know it's not small but in this particular situation we'd be

1361
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,480
going to the investors who have already

1362
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,720
signed off on the project to increase

1363
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,079
their support we have a number of large

1364
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:41,440
investors involved because it's 4% tax

1365
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,359
credit um so we'd do that I mean and

1366
01:01:44,359 --> 01:01:45,920
Kyla has been an extraordinary grant

1367
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,839
writer I can't predict the future I'd

1368
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:50,480
love to say that I'd love to predict the

1369
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
future the project would already be done

1370
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,559
um but because I can't you know that's a

1371
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:57,640
valid it's it's a really valid question

1372
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,880
but I don't think we'll stop until we

1373
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:04,240
get the bucket full if that does

1374
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,880
happen so so you're ready to to go ahead

1375
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,559
and spend $98,000 for the water man rep

1376
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,160
replacement well we have the bids ready

1377
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,039
and so and the balance is going towards

1378
01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:18,440
the Harbor House

1379
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,520
right right the 266

1380
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,559
449 and I have I have to uh you know

1381
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,799
think and Mr Harley and come in there

1382
01:02:27,799 --> 01:02:29,480
that I mean we're going to have to be

1383
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,680
open up if anybody else come forward

1384
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,000
before us you know with a recommendation

1385
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,960
wanted to move to a next project we have

1386
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:36,799
because this is the first time we're

1387
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:38,640
doing this we're moving an entire

1388
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,720
Project funding into another project so

1389
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,559
if some agency come before us we have to

1390
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:47,760
have an open lens to look at that yeah

1391
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,559
is that's what I'm trying to get at yeah

1392
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:51,599
definitely so so what I what I CU as far

1393
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,119
as this project here goes I mean this is

1394
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:57,359
even to the point I think that it has

1395
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:59,559
changed but it's Chang in scope and

1396
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:01,039
change for the back right I think that

1397
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:02,640
this is something that that's good that

1398
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,240
you'll be able to have a larger impact

1399
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,520
in the community I Ser do very important

1400
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,039
work so all things are uh you know all those things are true I guess my

1401
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:13,520
conversation um amongst the council is

1402
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760
that as we do this I think that we are

1403
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,520
in a really unique position with this

1404
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,880
funding that we can be somewhat more

1405
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,480
flexible than what we can do with

1406
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,440
traditional fundings I just want us to

1407
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,359
keep that same energy as we're

1408
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:27,480
approaching you know other projects that

1409
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,039
um have uh that um are living in the

1410
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,359
city and even some of our kind of

1411
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:37,119
smaller projects who don't um uh might

1412
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:41,520
not have the same capacity to raise um

1413
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,839
do the great work that you're doing

1414
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:44,559
institutionally right now at least that

1415
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,599
type of capital that was just my point

1416
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:49,200
absolutely I support that well I think

1417
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,880
um I just have to say that I I would be

1418
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,000
open to hearing if there were other

1419
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,920
projects but again I think we to really

1420
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,680
examine on a Case by case basis sure

1421
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,200
that you know what's their experience

1422
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,160
what's their expertise what is the rest

1423
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,799
of the funding package you know we I I

1424
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:08,480
guess I wouldn't want to be cart blanch

1425
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,079
I mean we'd be open to looking at other

1426
01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:14,559
things if they come up but we have to um

1427
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:17,319
make our judgments based on a Case by

1428
01:04:17,319 --> 01:04:19,240
case basis absolutely yeah so yeah so

1429
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,240
let me because I want clear confusion

1430
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,119
around me saying that like no obviously

1431
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:25,480
we have to make the informed decisions

1432
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,920
and right calculations is what you're

1433
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,319
saying what I was saying is that my

1434
01:04:29,319 --> 01:04:31,079
point is that to be Equitable in our

1435
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:34,240
approach is that to be is to make sure

1436
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,880
that we are being as flexible and

1437
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:44,200
responsive as we can be to all of the um agencies that are coming forth to do

1438
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,319
this work and I don't want to be in a

1439
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:49,400
position to where you know we're we're

1440
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,640
not showing that same flexibility and

1441
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,079
understanding cuz as important as it is

1442
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:55,160
in this which I'm full supportive by the

1443
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,119
way um I just want to make sure that we

1444
01:04:58,119 --> 01:04:59,760
have that same type of lens when we're

1445
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,240
looking at other people because

1446
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,079
sometimes I don't know that we do that

1447
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:05,160
without having that sense of

1448
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,279
intentionality and really staing it

1449
01:05:07,279 --> 01:05:08,480
explicitly in the beginning of a

1450
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,960
conversation that's why I think it's important to be

1451
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,839
noted go ahead please so I guess I'm

1452
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:17,400
trying to be considered of the next

1453
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,039
topic that's coming down the line of

1454
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:21,480
where the rest of our projects are uh it

1455
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,119
sounds as if I mean you've been very

1456
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,200
clear the water main replacement is this

1457
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,720
all po need to allow or approve this

1458
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,720
adjustment I'm very comfortable moving

1459
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,240
forward with that um can you speak to

1460
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,960
the critical health and safety updates

1461
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,960
is that something that you're in a

1462
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,039
similar position to also with the bidden

1463
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:39,920
contract or is that work that is going

1464
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,440
to be adjusted to the back end I guess

1465
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,119
from trying to identify is these

1466
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:45,799
additional like construction costs is

1467
01:05:45,799 --> 01:05:49,400
that ACC across the the entirety of the

1468
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,599
project where is it anything that we're

1469
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,440
talking about sense of urgency we have

1470
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,279
to be process right now or you just

1471
01:05:55,279 --> 01:05:57,039
trying to leverage the monies where

1472
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:59,119
you're not having to repeat work well

1473
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:00,920
this will be wrapped into the larger

1474
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,920
project that will start in March so

1475
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,839
again I will be at the mercy of the

1476
01:06:04,839 --> 01:06:07,279
contractors okay um obviously they'll

1477
01:06:07,279 --> 01:06:09,000
probably address the health health and

1478
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,559
safety issues first and one of the

1479
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:14,559
biggest ones is a a bait um and so

1480
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,079
that's where the scope might change a

1481
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,799
little but the the drainage uh not that

1482
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:20,559
the water main definitely needs to start

1483
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:22,119
because in order for us to create the

1484
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:24,599
new building in the back we need a

1485
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:27,440
higher level of water coming through um

1486
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,960
uh the drainage pits are going to be

1487
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,119
part of the larger project obviously we

1488
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:33,640
wouldn't be doing those until things

1489
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,920
that are going to fall from the upper

1490
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,559
levels with the renovation aren't going

1491
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,559
to destroy whatever work might be done

1492
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:40,920
down below and the windows will be done

1493
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,440
at a time when we know that we've

1494
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,760
rebuilt all the Sills the seals are not

1495
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,799
in great repair and then put the new

1496
01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:48,880
windows

1497
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,559
in by amending the budget to um to cover

1498
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:56,440
the early stages of construction being

1499
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,880
extra considerate of the the funding

1500
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,039
timeline and deadlines of arpa where

1501
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,039
even if something does change even if

1502
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:05,559
the timeline does God forbid change one

1503
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:08,920
more time we're it's absolutely going to

1504
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,880
be done by the June 30th 2026 deadline

1505
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,079
doing the early stages is if anything

1506
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:17,799
the best insurance that we can have from

1507
01:07:17,799 --> 01:07:20,720
for this project which it's changing day

1508
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,839
by day and taking so many twists and

1509
01:07:22,839 --> 01:07:25,319
turns um and while we are talking about

1510
01:07:25,319 --> 01:07:27,680
this in a larger broader context of the

1511
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,920
Harbor House project ultimately the

1512
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,200
original arpa Grant was for crial

1513
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,000
Capital repairs at 44 Washington Avenue

1514
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,920
and it is still for critical Capital

1515
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:43,510
repairs at 44 Washington

1516
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Avenue

1517
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,359
please I I think thank you for the the

1518
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:51,559
presentation I think the spirit and

1519
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:53,720
scope and intent of the proposal really

1520
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,559
the same and I think as as we all know

1521
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:58,599
variables change and they can change

1522
01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:01,640
rapidly um so I'm in support of of the

1523
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,400
modifications and also what council

1524
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,200
Farley mentioned is that we we need to

1525
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,839
be open to um looking at um as as people

1526
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:11,960
encounter barriers and and changes in

1527
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,680
the um original um proposals that there

1528
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,199
may be a need for that how we entertain

1529
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:21,880
that in a effable way this prob so I'm

1530
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,319
happy to support this I have a question

1531
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:28,600
um please so so you're taking nav's

1532
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:34,110
house out of this it was never in it

1533
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,880
nav na I'm by what I had goad Navia

1534
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,759
house was never part of the Harbor House

1535
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:45,120
project we were thinking about longterm

1536
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,159
our our funding prospects where we are

1537
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:48,799
still focused on Harbor House we are

1538
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,239
still focused on the Early Learning

1539
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,719
Center move uh there wasn't any

1540
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:55,080
flexibility currently to apply to other

1541
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,400
prospects for needed changes at Navia

1542
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,000
house that's why initially we we added

1543
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,799
it here but as as we spoke and realized

1544
01:09:03,799 --> 01:09:05,600
as we want to change as little as

1545
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,520
possible to the actual scope of our aror

1546
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,000
project we wanted to cause as little

1547
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,120
friction as possible which is exactly

1548
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:17,080
why we we removed we didn't do a good

1549
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,520
job that is why we

1550
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,520
removed lots of questions and kept it

1551
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,880
only at 44 Washington Avenue just to

1552
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,640
keep it as to the original proposal as

1553
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,719
possible so where's obious house

1554
01:09:29,719 --> 01:09:32,600
actually located oh you can't tell me

1555
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,159
next order the it's the oldest building

1556
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,839
in The Stockade um it's right next to

1557
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,319
the YW it's on that main campus it's not

1558
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:42,080
it's a little building next to all right

1559
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,000
thank you yeah no it used to

1560
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,480
be all right so what happens to that

1561
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:53,440
we've received other funding sources to

1562
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:57,159
support that we we've gotten 25,000 so

1563
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:58,960
far and we still have a gap but we can

1564
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,920
move forward with that LE some of the

1565
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,880
work thank you any other

1566
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,840
questions are you ready to spend this

1567
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,360
money it's just a game show yes get to

1568
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,760
R yes I'm I'm I'm in support of this um

1569
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:19,920
this

1570
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,880
reallocation and talking with

1571
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,640
our attorney here we're going to I have

1572
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,600
to amend this

1573
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,800
resolution and incorporate to allocation

1574
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,640
into one so I'm going to ask for a

1575
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,640
motion to amend resolution number 2024

1576
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,760
d224 to come back

1577
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:46,750
2020 sorry 2022 D

1578
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,679
224 and so so combine the Y

1579
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:55,679
WCA New York our critical Capital needs

1580
01:10:55,679 --> 01:11:00,120
request to Harbor House at YWCA noreast

1581
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,800
New York to combine total of 1 million

1582
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:10,350
$4,440

1583
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,640
all in favor I so just recap so we just

1584
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,320
combine the two lines into one and

1585
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,719
allocate the funding on the Harbor House

1586
01:11:19,719 --> 01:11:23,199
at y WCA NE n

1587
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:26,320
y yes do we have the yet it's already

1588
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,880
Ved was that voted oh thank you thank

1589
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,480
you very very much we appreciate your

1590
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:35,630
support and your

1591
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,870
flexibility go spend that

1592
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,920
money thank youbody good night good

1593
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,920
night the next item is a Continuum of P

1594
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:52,080
20 b contract Miss car we received our

1595
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,239
um allocation from HUD for the 20 minut

1596
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,080
in the amount of $8

1597
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,400
2,522 so today I'm coming before Council

1598
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,960
um asking for permission so the mayor

1599
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:08,030
can we can go into contract with the

1600
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,400
YMCA

1601
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,840
questions go ahead please so I just want

1602
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,960
on the evaluation analysis I just want

1603
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,320
to be to be clear about the uh $

1604
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:24,159
4,141 to the city in the wi so that's

1605
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:28,480
$8,000 it's double that so we get for

1606
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:30,679
admin

1607
01:12:30,679 --> 01:12:34,360
$8,200 and we split that so half for the

1608
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,960
4100 is for the Y and the 4100 is for

1609
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,320
the city and that's one time that is one

1610
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,320
time okay cuz it's the board monthly was

1611
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,080
in here and I was like we get that

1612
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,280
monthly you know I I submitted some of

1613
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,400
these under distress so

1614
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,360
my okay so that's a one time allocation

1615
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,440
thank you I'll take out the word monthly

1616
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:57,840
cuz we be looking for it thank you

1617
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,719
that's the only question any other

1618
01:12:59,719 --> 01:13:04,800
questions second all in favor

1619
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:09,040
I the next item is to review the 2024

1620
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,760
2025 final annual action plan

1621
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:18,440
allocation Miss far yes that is me um

1622
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:20,639
last but not least I am here with the

1623
01:13:20,639 --> 01:13:23,600
council for review and to accept our

1624
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,800
final allocation the HUD for the 2024

1625
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,000
2025 annual action plan we had our

1626
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,040
public comment period for 30 days we

1627
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,840
also had our public hearing and with

1628
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,719
success we had no comments um so I'm

1629
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:42,120
asking Council um to approve

1630
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,960
that go ahead please um so M car um I

1631
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,040
did see an organization on here let me

1632
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,239
see if I can find it now I did when I it

1633
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:52,840
to highlight it that was a privately

1634
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,159
owned business

1635
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:58,639
that we were where is it oh first page

1636
01:13:58,639 --> 01:14:02,239
on page 32 of your aik property I know

1637
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:05,040
that's a um everything else is like B

1638
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,840
bcni all of those are not for profits

1639
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,120
and so aik I know is a um privately

1640
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,239
owned business and I um this is my first

1641
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:16,440
time ever seeing us alloc so speak to

1642
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:19,400
that yes so I'm glad that you ask um

1643
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,560
this is probably the first time but our

1644
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,560
home funds and as a PJ which is a um

1645
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,719
participate in jurisdiction we've always

1646
01:14:27,719 --> 01:14:31,320
had the flexibility to use for-profit um

1647
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,440
as long as the project is in line with

1648
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,719
our com our Consolidated plan for the 5

1649
01:14:36,719 --> 01:14:39,239
years that we put for with HUD we can

1650
01:14:39,239 --> 01:14:41,440
use it and the same goes with cdbg funds

1651
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,600
we just have not had an entity that

1652
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,639
applied that will qualify and had a

1653
01:14:46,639 --> 01:14:49,280
qualifiable project okay so home funds

1654
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:54,719
is strictly for tenant based rental MH

1655
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:55,380
home home

1656
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:56,719
[Music]

1657
01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:59,920
buying and hold on you done got me all

1658
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:03,080
dis shuffled let me go to my notes sorry

1659
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,960
so there's four activities homeowner

1660
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,199
Rehabilitation okay home buying home

1661
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,280
buyer activities which a developer what

1662
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,480
is included rental housing and tenant

1663
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:15,480
based rental assistance so aik is

1664
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,360
looking to do affordable housing in an

1665
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,480
area to that we're addressing blight so

1666
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:25,120
that is in line with the the current com

1667
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,199
plan for Community

1668
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:31,239
Development as you also can see Madam um

1669
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:34,360
president they asked for a much more a

1670
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,199
significant amount more um so we do

1671
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:39,560
understand um that they've never done

1672
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,520
this before with the city Le we have to

1673
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,040
do a risk analysis to make sure that

1674
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,880
they are capable they have the capacity

1675
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,440
to manage this funding which is why we

1676
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,280
gave them a little bit to show that we

1677
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,639
are leveraging some of the for-profit

1678
01:15:51,639 --> 01:15:53,960
organizations in our community to

1679
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,679
address a has it okay and so their

1680
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,400
project is already it's all outline here

1681
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,679
so this is a specific project where this

1682
01:16:02,679 --> 01:16:04,520
funds together yes and our home

1683
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,159
specialist is going to give technical

1684
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,120
assistance to aik cuz we know we only

1685
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,239
gave them a small amount so that's that

1686
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:12,000
10 and something th000 is not going to

1687
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,760
be able to satisfy their whole project

1688
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,920
but maybe one

1689
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,719
unit thank

1690
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:21,960
you good so I have I have some specific

1691
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,800
questions about several of these so I

1692
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,320
don't know if you want to do them go

1693
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,320
ahead please so the first one would be

1694
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,440
for habitat of humanity um they asked

1695
01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:35,480
for 346 420 we're giving them 200 um and

1696
01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:37,239
maybe this answerers might cover some of

1697
01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:39,000
the other questions as well but will

1698
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,239
they then just adapt their project or

1699
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:44,719
are they yes they will have to give

1700
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:46,159
based on the allocation they'll give an

1701
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:47,280
updated

1702
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,960
budget to use those FS okay and then um

1703
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,440
the next one would be the city of Troy

1704
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,120
in that consortion agreement did they

1705
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,600
back out is that why we're not giving

1706
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,280
them any money no we gave them money

1707
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,760
well I mean

1708
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,880
um oh yes okay I'm sorry I I'm looking

1709
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,360
in the wrong column on that one sorry um

1710
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,960
to the uh boys and girls club in terms

1711
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,280
of the youth um programs that they do

1712
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:15,639
for us um is it that we have other money

1713
01:17:15,639 --> 01:17:17,320
that we've given them for Central Park

1714
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,120
is that they only applied for Jerry

1715
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,920
barough uh the one that's on page 34

1716
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,840
Quack and bu sign that's okay that's the

1717
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,280
internal y so that gets Boys and Girls

1718
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,800
Club does the work but it's managed

1719
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,040
internal internally by

1720
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,719
engineering okay so okay so this is not

1721
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:40,920
um this looks like it's the the

1722
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,360
activities that they're offering for

1723
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,880
youth are you talking about the for you

1724
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,360
a personal and non personal oh she's

1725
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,280
soen there yeah yeah I mean we're giving

1726
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,199
them what they asked for I was just

1727
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,520
curious as to you know whether they were

1728
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,320
getting other funding for Central Park

1729
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,920
but I do not see any money um for

1730
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,840
Central Park okay but engineering has

1731
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,880
funding for Park Improvement so I

1732
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,199
wouldn't see why that wouldn't fall into

1733
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:07,920
there

1734
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,920
okay

1735
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,719
um then just uh I was just wondering on

1736
01:18:15,719 --> 01:18:18,840
the SKC foundation's one SKC resident

1737
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,719
driven change whether anybody from the

1738
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:23,000
city is being represented on that

1739
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,920
committee if there's any I don't know if

1740
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,360
City I don't think there city council

1741
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:27,679
representation but I didn't know if

1742
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:29,440
maybe you or someone from your office

1743
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,239
was no we have not been invited yet to

1744
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:34,080
that yeah I'd like to see somebody from

1745
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880
the city get invited to to be a part of

1746
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:37,880
that

1747
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,159
Coalition um can I I can speak I I mean

1748
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:44,080
I think that's open and I was you know I

1749
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,600
was asked I was like I I really didn't

1750
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,000
have time so I think it's an open

1751
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,960
process it's been they've been doing

1752
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,800
this for a while so my understanding is

1753
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,080
there were invitations out there and

1754
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,480
there was an open process for people to

1755
01:18:53,480 --> 01:19:00,760
be a part of it oh okay I see what you're saying all right

1756
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:09,870
um skip that one for now

1757
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,920
um that that's it those are my questions

1758
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,760
thank you I have one under the funding

1759
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,239
for the Empowerment Center they had

1760
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,159
asked for

1761
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:23,719
262,000 and we we're the proposal here

1762
01:19:23,719 --> 01:19:26,910
is 75

1763
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:31,280
okay well they also Encompass in their

1764
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,679
application a lot of programming that

1765
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:36,239
doesn't exist right now so we scored

1766
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:38,760
these applications we have a scorecard

1767
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,960
um So based on what the empowerment

1768
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,679
spent Center spent last year is what we

1769
01:19:44,679 --> 01:19:47,800
allocated so last year they were awarded

1770
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,040
roughly 30,000 we gave them additional

1771
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,800
money that equaled up to 75,000 and they

1772
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,320
were able to

1773
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,120
majority of that down so that's where

1774
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,120
that 75,000 allocation came from okay go

1775
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,719
ahead please I'm glad you said scorecard

1776
01:20:03,719 --> 01:20:06,120
so I was going to ask um I know during

1777
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,440
our uh arpa conversations there's a lot

1778
01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:10,480
of criticism but one of the takeaways

1779
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:12,040
that I appreciate was having I know it

1780
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,719
was before your UH tenure here but

1781
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:17,199
having a I guess parameter of where the

1782
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:19,560
Planning Development um Department felt

1783
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,360
with each project for me I was asking if

1784
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,159
there's a way to include a Col

1785
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:29,239
to just highlight uh how many years said

1786
01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:30,600
organizations have been receiving

1787
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,719
funding but I guess what I'm

1788
01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:34,679
specifically asking for is what is their

1789
01:20:34,679 --> 01:20:37,120
ability to meet like the tangibles like

1790
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,960
that's the efficacy of them delivering

1791
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,280
so that's one of the things that they're

1792
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,520
scored on in the application right also

1793
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,440
being in compliant how they spend the

1794
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,600
money now the team has considered all of

1795
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,880
those things when looking at these

1796
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,159
applications some of our um I would be

1797
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:53,560
remissed if I didn't say this some of

1798
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,159
our sub reant were trying to kind of

1799
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:58,760
wing them off of support so to speak um

1800
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,920
to be sustainable without every year

1801
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,440
applying for the fund so that we can

1802
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,800
open up the pool and do maybe internal

1803
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,840
projects because right now a lot of our

1804
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,280
smaller subrecipients solely depend on

1805
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,920
the city of connected cdbg funding so

1806
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,440
we're trying to give them the support to

1807
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:17,480
be able to apply for other funding so

1808
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:19,360
that we can use some of the funding for

1809
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,440
some of our internal um

1810
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:26,360
priorities like trash

1811
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,760
is that is that information that you

1812
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,880
feel comfortable disclosing on this form

1813
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,679
not now I cuz I know we're at the final

1814
01:21:32,679 --> 01:21:35,159
probably not on this form but I can give

1815
01:21:35,159 --> 01:21:38,199
you um I can give you some of the the

1816
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:40,360
stats from the scorecards from the

1817
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,920
reviewer redacting who the reviewer are

1818
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,960
cuz my team was worried about that too

1819
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,159
if I tell you who reviewed the

1820
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:49,760
application but I I can provide you with

1821
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,199
that appreciate that thank

1822
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:53,840
you the next one I have here is um

1823
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,199
Wildwood um programs can you brief us on

1824
01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:02,400
this program Wildwood is a is part of is

1825
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,400
a shelter and as part of the Consortium

1826
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,639
actually so that's they're funded with

1827
01:22:07,639 --> 01:22:10,320
home and I don't have all of the Deets

1828
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,600
on um while would at the top of my head

1829
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,440
so I will have to send that to you

1830
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:16,400
councilman I

1831
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,360
apologize please send it to the entire

1832
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,320
Council no

1833
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,920
I Mr M she said Michael it's a lot of

1834
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,360
sub needs to remember every detail a

1835
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,120
great

1836
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,159
job any other

1837
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:34,600
questions go ahead please I just think

1838
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,239
uh you said that you're going to send a

1839
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,560
scorecard out to our yeah I'll give I'll

1840
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,880
send an overview or a summary on how um

1841
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,160
how they scored you know the the main

1842
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,520
[Music]

1843
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,320
points is that an internal criteria that

1844
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,120
you created for the score card or is

1845
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,760
that something it was not used in the

1846
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,320
past okay um

1847
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,790
but it is used

1848
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,239
now I think their version of a scorecard

1849
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:03,080
was just different they talked about it

1850
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,760
but nothing that we had receipts in case

1851
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,520
somebody challenged what we putting

1852
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,120
forward any other question no I just

1853
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,560
want to commend you um I know it was a

1854
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,679
lot of work but getting it there you

1855
01:23:15,679 --> 01:23:17,480
know make sure you had answers to all

1856
01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:20,360
our questions so really appreciate that

1857
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,580
thank you now I'm I'm really hot

1858
01:23:24,580 --> 01:23:26,199
[Music]

1859
01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:28,239
seeing no other question I have a I

1860
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:29,760
would like to move a motion that we

1861
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,560
adopted 2024 2025 annual action

1862
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,679
plan so move second all in favor I thank

1863
01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:40,510
you good

1864
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,080
work the next item is the downtown

1865
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,480
district Pump Station modernization

1866
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:56,310
project still

1867
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,199
good evening good

1868
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:00,639
evening the legislative request you have

1869
01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:03,120
FR you tonight is to authoriz the near

1870
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,239
entering the engineering and planning

1871
01:24:05,239 --> 01:24:08,840
Grant with New York State EFC for

1872
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,920
$50,000 uh towards a preliminary

1873
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,280
engineering study of two pump stations

1874
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,840
in downtown one southb street Pump

1875
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,000
Station and the other would be the

1876
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,600
Broadway Pump Station pump stations are

1877
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,800
old um they've been there and been touch

1878
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,000
other than Motors and parts um for the

1879
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,000
last 45 years I've been here so um our

1880
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,480
development has changed down there

1881
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:36,320
they're getting more flow um to the uh

1882
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,080
study from CL Harbor was $660,000 but

1883
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,880
there is a $50,000 Grant from EFC offset

1884
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,239
the cost of the cost is be

1885
01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:47,920
$10,000 the preliminary engineering

1886
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,159
review is sort of a prerequisite to move

1887
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:52,760
forward to be eligible for future Grant

1888
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,480
if we decide to do something with those

1889
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,719
pump stations um and go into a design um

1890
01:24:57,719 --> 01:25:01,320
for upgrading um so that is part of the

1891
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,040
um critera to have a preliminary juring

1892
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,960
report prior to doing something else

1893
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,760
with a project it puts us gives us

1894
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,199
eligibility for future grants for that

1895
01:25:12,199 --> 01:25:14,600
project

1896
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,679
questions seeing none we have a motion

1897
01:25:16,679 --> 01:25:17,960
to move this item

1898
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,239
forward second second all in favor thank

1899
01:25:21,239 --> 01:25:26,159
you m i well not this one particular

1900
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,280
project but I know that um we had

1901
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,920
another pump I didn't know there was so

1902
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,320
many pump stations for so let me just

1903
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,679
say that in the city so I knew that we

1904
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:35,880
had the pump station um you mentioned it

1905
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,520
at the legislative conference on

1906
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,440
Washington Avenue that's storm storm

1907
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:45,239
order okay so um is it a similar I think

1908
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:48,600
we uh last year we allocated money the

1909
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,760
difference is theing house we do have we

1910
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,840
do have current money to um working on

1911
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,920
that uh um that is storm water so that

1912
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,239
handles some storm water FL okay the two

1913
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,719
pump stations in towntown the South fa

1914
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:05,719
and the Broadway are

1915
01:26:05,719 --> 01:26:08,639
sanitary difference but they're impact

1916
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:12,280
because you know um we call I ey inflow

1917
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,480
and um infiltration is when storm water

1918
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:17,040
still because the pipes are 100 years

1919
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,320
old in the city they still Infiltrate

1920
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,600
The sanitary Lin so they're still um you

1921
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,360
know if it was a perfect enclosed PL

1922
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,520
system what everybody used as waste

1923
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,480
water in their houses apartments and

1924
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,360
restaurants and businesses would only be

1925
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,760
in that pipe but the flow is always

1926
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,639
greater because conditional pipes old

1927
01:26:35,639 --> 01:26:37,400
pipes they crack their clay pipes they

1928
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,440
just get natural infiltration so the

1929
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:41,719
mans they're brim so you get natural

1930
01:26:41,719 --> 01:26:43,760
infiltration which creates more water

1931
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,280
going through that pump station than it

1932
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,320
was just a PL sewer system so the

1933
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,880
Washington an pum station is another

1934
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,600
project which is part of the resiliency

1935
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,040
project along with with with the uh

1936
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,480
waste treatment plan River Homes so we

1937
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:01,880
do have grant money for that consider gr

1938
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,760
money that to us earlier in this year so

1939
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,080
do we have a time I mean is it going to

1940
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,320
be similar to this we have to have a

1941
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,320
study Etc and so on that study's been

1942
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,960
done we have the grant money okay now we

1943
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,119
have to um enter an agreement with a

1944
01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:19,000
consulting firm okay um and then um

1945
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,679
they'll do design that project is

1946
01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:26,119
probably 18 Maybe 20 24 months away

1947
01:27:26,119 --> 01:27:28,000
because it is a big project we're

1948
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:28,920
probably talking $20

1949
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,480
[Music]

1950
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:33,880
million just want to say it's not lost

1951
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,639
on us when we come forward and with

1952
01:27:35,639 --> 01:27:37,840
these projects and have already um

1953
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,480
secured some grant funding I know that

1954
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:42,400
that's like work that is not easily done

1955
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,320
and I you know as he walks in right on

1956
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,880
CU Mr W okay you're up I'm joking no but

1957
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,639
we do appreciate that you know the

1958
01:27:49,639 --> 01:27:51,719
efforts to try to um leverage funding

1959
01:27:51,719 --> 01:27:53,920
sources to to get these prod last five

1960
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,159
years I think we've got about $50

1961
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:59,440
million in Grant PR that's great thank

1962
01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:01,800
you Pa thank you have a good evening

1963
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,800
right thank you the next item is amended

1964
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,920
and reated of first supplemental Bond

1965
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,679
ordinance for Rice River Road treatment

1966
01:28:09,679 --> 01:28:14,239
plan Mr D hello good evening um so the

1967
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:16,960
council uh approved this on June 10th

1968
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,360
the resolution uh there was a small tweak in the verbage that was not

1969
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,320
included um it should have stated

1970
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,639
issuance

1971
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:27,080
of the project um P say purpose was

1972
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,199
increased by approximately 5 million um

1973
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:31,760
so there was a small mistake in the

1974
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,560
garbage but that has been

1975
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,680
adjusted

1976
01:28:37,690 --> 01:28:40,000
[Music]

1977
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,880
questions motion to to move this

1978
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,080
forward second all in favor

1979
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,560
I any other business of pro

1980
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,960
Finance I would like to recess um the

1981
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,800
finance committee to Monday

1982
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,440
um August 12th at 5:30 p.m. room 1110 to

1983
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:02,199
continue discussion on the um the towing

1984
01:29:02,199 --> 01:29:05,560
contract for HMK and ac2 you need an

1985
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:10,440
hour and a half for that no really

1986
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:14,040
5 six sorry thank

1987
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,600
you six sorry so we recess um Monday

1988
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,750
August 12 6

1989
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,920
p.m. need a motion yes yeah

1990
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,840
second second all in favor I thank

1991
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,119
you thank you mayor thank you um I'd

1992
01:29:31,119 --> 01:29:32,760
like to call to order City development

1993
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,920
and planning we have two items on the

1994
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,199
agenda first item is the uh followup for

1995
01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:42,000
arpa and Miss Carver's back and she's

1996
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,360
provided this information to us

1997
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,480
everybody should have received an email

1998
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:48,480
regarding where we were with that um so

1999
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:50,840
high level the most um

2000
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,920
significant um things that you should

2001
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,880
know is that electric City Co-Op they

2002
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,400
have reached all their

2003
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,679
pre-contractual um requirements and they

2004
01:29:58,679 --> 01:30:00,320
are pending to go in the contract My

2005
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,400
Hope was to have the contract um done

2006
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,440
and executed this week but that I was

2007
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:06,600
unable to get to that but um in the

2008
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,280
coming week I should have an executed

2009
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,520
contract with them they have gotten

2010
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,719
sight and supplied everything that was

2011
01:30:12,719 --> 01:30:15,719
required of them so that's exciting um

2012
01:30:15,719 --> 01:30:17,719
and they met that in the deadline that

2013
01:30:17,719 --> 01:30:19,080
they're the extension that the city

2014
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,239
council provided to them great um the

2015
01:30:22,239 --> 01:30:24,920
three items that are currently still

2016
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,159
pending is our Miracle on Craig project

2017
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:32,679
our DU foundation and the Empowerment

2018
01:30:32,679 --> 01:30:36,360
Center so we have met um with the

2019
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,119
Hamilton Hill Co-op after they've done

2020
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:41,719
their presentation um to city council

2021
01:30:41,719 --> 01:30:45,320
we've met with um D Foundation um I

2022
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,600
think that this needs it's time for this

2023
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,000
to be Revisited um by the council Dory

2024
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,880
um in meeting with them they are looking

2025
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:56,960
to have their

2026
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,679
$200,000 to go towards

2027
01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:02,440
programming um and so separated on what

2028
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:04,639
the resolution

2029
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:09,760
um States um it is my hope

2030
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,600
that I we can get all on the same page

2031
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,800
the mayor Department of development city

2032
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,280
council and all of the organizations to

2033
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,480
really kind of get this moving um moving

2034
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:23,760
forward so how much money are we talking

2035
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,119
about about um with between the uh well

2036
01:31:27,119 --> 01:31:28,800
what they're now calling the Hamilton

2037
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,400
Hill cooperative and dor I know

2038
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,400
initially D the Empowerment Center and D

2039
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,800
were merged into one um by development

2040
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,280
prior to you so I know that so how much

2041
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,679
money is there overall in that piece and

2042
01:31:44,679 --> 01:31:47,239
then looking another phone I have to get

2043
01:31:47,239 --> 01:31:49,679
a calculator CU I don't know that on

2044
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:54,520
hand okay so we have the 5 575 000 would

2045
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,119
be empowerment cuz they have they

2046
01:31:57,119 --> 01:31:59,360
empowerment and D re was together they

2047
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,350
had 875,000

2048
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,679
okay I'm sorry go ahead right can we

2049
01:32:05,679 --> 01:32:08,639
look on the paper that's for me here it

2050
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:10,040
is

2051
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,600
so we'll get there we have it cuz I know

2052
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,360
it's broken down but on the spreadsheet

2053
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,719
that I provided I broke that down um for

2054
01:32:17,719 --> 01:32:20,400
city council I don't think it's on this

2055
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:42,189
one okay

2056
01:32:42,199 --> 01:32:45,870
construction

2057
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,880
875

2058
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,639
Cent so there's a million between the

2059
01:32:51,639 --> 01:32:54,440
two there's a million

2060
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:59,040
there's a milli 75 500 correct and then

2061
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,480
1.2 for Carver

2062
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:06,600
yes okay I remember that now all right

2063
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,560
and has any of the money been spent yet

2064
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,880
for from the empowerment that was yes

2065
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,320
I've already deducted that oh okay so

2066
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,280
it's still the 1

2067
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,840
175,000 or not no that 875 is not the it

2068
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,080
was more than the 875 if I'm not correct

2069
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:34,830
it's all

2070
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,639
correct so you're saying that right now

2071
01:33:37,639 --> 01:33:40,639
it's been considered as that the the JY

2072
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:43,960
is asking to be removed from they they

2073
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:45,520
want to separate themselves and do their

2074
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,159
project separate and aart

2075
01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:51,000
okay M

2076
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,119
president so you just mentioned to us

2077
01:33:53,119 --> 01:33:54,239
that um there is

2078
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,560
$875,000 available for Brey and the

2079
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,320
Empowerment Center is that $875 for

2080
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,920
empowerment 200 for Dury oh 8 and5 for

2081
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:08,000
empowerment and 200 oh thought the

2082
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,480
empowerment didn't send any spend anyy

2083
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:14,000
let me go to my last spreadsheet I

2084
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,040
apologize isn't this the spreadsheet

2085
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,880
that's the update so let me see what I

2086
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:24,550
got from it's come back

2087
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:31,510
that's

2088
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,920
good no that's original not it is there

2089
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:42,470
in the

2090
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:46,590
description can't see

2091
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,239
this you can see it better P yeah it's

2092
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:52,760
just highlighted in yellow in what we

2093
01:34:52,760 --> 01:35:04,030
received email

2094
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:10,000
yes so the 875 is minus what Ron um what

2095
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,679
he spent already oh

2096
01:35:14,679 --> 01:35:18,199
okay so 875 minus what's already been

2097
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:19,600
spent we don't just we just don't know

2098
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,080
that number right now yes I'm going to

2099
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,040
get you the number it's already the 875

2100
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,639
that's the number I've already subract

2101
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:29,400
that represents actual right now what is

2102
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,239
available and I will get you the amount

2103
01:35:31,239 --> 01:35:38,510
that Mar

2104
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,400
okay okay let me correct myself mayor

2105
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,080
you making me nervous okay let me

2106
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,560
correct myself okay the Empowerment

2107
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,639
Center and I apologize city council has

2108
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:54,840
794

2109
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,080
$116 $6 he they spent

2110
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,960
$52,000

2111
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:24,790
and4 okay so that $52,400

2112
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,920
so moving forward the pl plan

2113
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,080
is my hope is that like I previously

2114
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,280
said that we can work with the

2115
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,960
mayor the entities that are involved

2116
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,320
City Council in development and really

2117
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,159
because I know that there's been some

2118
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:45,920
issues with how this money is to move

2119
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,960
forward so I would like to be able to

2120
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,560
help facilitate it moving in the right

2121
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,350
direction

2122
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,000
M

2123
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,639
no m m so because um could you just

2124
01:37:01,639 --> 01:37:03,760
refresh our memory in terms of the the

2125
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,600
deadline to spend the money and also so

2126
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,320
you're confident that this is going to

2127
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,239
get completed by that that any of this

2128
01:37:11,239 --> 01:37:12,440
work

2129
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:16,719
is I don't know Council woman

2130
01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:20,440
um the deadline to spend our internal

2131
01:37:20,440 --> 01:37:24,199
deadline is October 2026 but okay our

2132
01:37:24,199 --> 01:37:26,119
external deadline which I've relayed to

2133
01:37:26,119 --> 01:37:29,040
our sub recipients is June to give us a

2134
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,760
little bit of room to make sure we have

2135
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,320
everything that we need to report

2136
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,199
properly to the US Treasury okay so June

2137
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:38,119
30th is the our outward facing deadline

2138
01:37:38,119 --> 01:37:41,840
to the public okay just SP now but I I

2139
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,040
can't confidently answer um that

2140
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,400
question because either way the project

2141
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,520
Carver um the co-op there is still a gap

2142
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,840
and I think that um one of the concerns

2143
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,960
is just addressing how we're going to

2144
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,800
come how that money is going to move

2145
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,830
forward the mayor did have some some

2146
01:37:58,830 --> 01:38:01,520
[Music]

2147
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,040
ideas that was going to be my next my

2148
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,719
next question says that you want to

2149
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:09,080
share your you know how do you put the

2150
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,920
money together for car what the bigger

2151
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,520
project is and there's not enough money

2152
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,239
on the table so we're having discussions

2153
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:20,760
to see if can move more money into that

2154
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,920
build so it um so for the Cooperative

2155
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,840
because I'm going to start car The

2156
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:30,400
Cooperative uh because it's on where

2157
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,840
they're going to Craig May connection is

2158
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,760
are there not opportunities and because

2159
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,840
it's a historic building to um to assist

2160
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,599
as we've been doing with the Y to assist

2161
01:38:40,599 --> 01:38:42,000
with you know trying to find some

2162
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,719
funding for them and you know helping

2163
01:38:43,719 --> 01:38:45,159
them because they don't have the

2164
01:38:45,159 --> 01:38:47,320
capacity of the why we we all know that

2165
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,520
but is there ways to uh assist

2166
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,360
especially since it's sitting there

2167
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,080
right in a place where there going to be

2168
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,119
major

2169
01:38:54,119 --> 01:39:00,880
renovation so um that's for me with the Harvard building and my

2170
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,679
understanding is they're also um asking

2171
01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:05,480
seeking funding from other sources in

2172
01:39:05,480 --> 01:39:07,320
addition to what we

2173
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,280
provided yes they they they should have

2174
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,960
um we did ask for some additional

2175
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,280
information um from them recently with

2176
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,679
the deadline so I'm looking to get their

2177
01:39:16,679 --> 01:39:20,199
updated plans on how what the organiz

2178
01:39:20,199 --> 01:39:22,080
what organizations are included in the

2179
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,360
colop um and that will help us find

2180
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,360
other sources too um the department of

2181
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,560
development and planning supports that

2182
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,000
trying to find other sources to go

2183
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,560
towards the car center which I've

2184
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,400
already relay that to the mayor as well

2185
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:39,360
so we we have the information out to our city grant writer who has on her

2186
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:46,910
radar so we are looking um to to

2187
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,920
assist well I and if if the since they

2188
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:52,440
submitted their application separately

2189
01:39:52,440 --> 01:39:53,880
and they're asking now to have it

2190
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,360
separated again I I would be supportive

2191
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,360
of that so that they could move ahead

2192
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:59,960
while they're not so they're not waiting

2193
01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:02,719
for the Carver to L up all of their

2194
01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:04,280
funding if this funding is going to get

2195
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,920
them we needing to go without waiting

2196
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,480
that's um what I'm hearing you say that

2197
01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:11,599
they wanted to separate and so they they

2198
01:40:11,599 --> 01:40:14,040
did articulate

2199
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:18,960
that Mr M and Mr over here to your point

2200
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,320
I mean should uh I would suggest that we

2201
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,280
ask them for an updated uh budget

2202
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,960
because the last time it came it was

2203
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,280
$200,000 operating cost I mean it's a

2204
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,920
year and a half ago so I would recommend

2205
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,639
that we ask them for an updated um

2206
01:40:35,639 --> 01:40:37,520
budget in terms of operating cost so

2207
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,239
that we can see where it lands today

2208
01:40:41,239 --> 01:40:44,400
before we proceed to make any um final

2209
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,480
allocation are you are you both entities

2210
01:40:47,480 --> 01:40:51,400
are you just speaking about um but you mentioned about Dury moving forward

2211
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,000
they wanted to go separate

2212
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,599
and I want to join team with the

2213
01:40:56,599 --> 01:40:58,560
Empowerment Center so I'm speaking

2214
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,080
specifically about um durri Foundation

2215
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,520
okay for an updated

2216
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,000
budget okay Mr

2217
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,000
Williams um so my question is if we can

2218
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,679
kind of take step take a step back to a

2219
01:41:12,679 --> 01:41:16,119
previous agenda item the CBG uh final

2220
01:41:16,119 --> 01:41:18,440
approval when you are considering

2221
01:41:18,440 --> 01:41:21,320
funding organizations is that done with

2222
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:22,760
any considerations for other funding

2223
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:24,480
streams are you looking Singularity

2224
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:25,679
between the monies that you have

2225
01:41:25,679 --> 01:41:27,719
available to apply with your programs

2226
01:41:27,719 --> 01:41:30,400
say that again councilman so my my

2227
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,480
bigger question is I'm looking at the

2228
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,639
city's decision to fund the Empowerment

2229
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:37,119
Center at a considerably less level than

2230
01:41:37,119 --> 01:41:39,000
what they requested and I'm worried

2231
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,880
about us funding it and their

2232
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:45,000
scaleability to meet that big ask of I

2233
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,840
think you said what $8,000 is still

2234
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,560
outlining and if we're trying to

2235
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,400
identify additional funding to support a

2236
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,920
resource that everyone has been in

2237
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,920
agreement with supporting I think it

2238
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,960
makes sense to move a considerable

2239
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,960
amount if not all of that to support

2240
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:03,270
this larger

2241
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,560
effort I think that's kind of what's

2242
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,960
been on the table from the mayor to move

2243
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,199
the money that was allocated to the

2244
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:12,800
Empowerment Center to the larger effort

2245
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:14,480
but if I'm hearing them correctly and I

2246
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:18,239
know you can't speak right there uh the

2247
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:20,119
understanding it sounds like to

2248
01:42:20,119 --> 01:42:22,719
pull all three of these projects

2249
01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:24,920
together and I don't know if that's to a

2250
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:30,030
detriment to any singular on being

2251
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,159
affected what we're trying to work out

2252
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:36,000
money is not there in the initial review

2253
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:41,870
to do the

2254
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,719
carers do we know do we know how much

2255
01:42:44,719 --> 01:42:48,470
they need what would be

2256
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:50,520
sufficient we're talking the building

2257
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,880
inovations now number was in ballpark of

2258
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,920
3.2

2259
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,520
million2 I'm not comfortable even using

2260
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,639
that number because it's been a period

2261
01:43:02,639 --> 01:43:05,760
of time so in fact it may be a larger

2262
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:06,960
number

2263
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,440
to complete what would be an adequate

2264
01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:17,310
stabilization and adaptive reuse of that

2265
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,159
facility and the historic designation is

2266
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:25,470
not helping oh it's not

2267
01:43:25,480 --> 01:43:29,320
okay up or now no no I no okay my

2268
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,639
question I answered on conversation

2269
01:43:31,639 --> 01:43:33,800
that's all right

2270
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,480
um oh so if your hand is up see now now

2271
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:40,400
you got me so the one question I have is

2272
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,280
are we this is not coming for us for 30

2273
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,400
to separate them out tonight are we

2274
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,199
voting on that tonight no we're just

2275
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:46,840
having a conversation right now she's

2276
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,040
updating us on where we are with ARA

2277
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,960
sure and so these are the three projects

2278
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,199
that are outstanding with speaking of

2279
01:43:54,199 --> 01:43:55,760
them

2280
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,880
separately uh so that's what we're just

2281
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:59,199
having yeah I was just wondering if

2282
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:00,560
that's something

2283
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,639
that and seeing how much money there is

2284
01:44:03,639 --> 01:44:04,760
remaining out of the money that was

2285
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,760
originally allocated Mr mudaron has said

2286
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,960
that he would like to hear like to see

2287
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,920
an updated budget from J

2288
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,480
foundation

2289
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:17,760
and she's she's prepared to do that from

2290
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,520
our conversation as well since she's now

2291
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,520
asking when she came to present to

2292
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,040
council she was asking reasing for her

2293
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,119
original act before it was brought

2294
01:44:27,119 --> 01:44:29,440
together which was of like 900 and

2295
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:31,880
something, um so the budget that the

2296
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,560
council has for that does not support

2297
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,400
the programing so she is aware and we

2298
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,599
have acts for

2299
01:44:39,599 --> 01:44:42,560
that and do we also need to hear from

2300
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,280
the co-op as to where they are with

2301
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,719
funding yes we have um what we're in

2302
01:44:47,719 --> 01:44:49,679
August now we don't have a lot of time

2303
01:44:49,679 --> 01:44:51,880
no they both organizations were given

2304
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,080
the deadline for update budgets and

2305
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:55,960
outlining the demographics that they're

2306
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,320
going to serve as for Friday August 9th

2307
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,000
Friday

2308
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,800
okay all of the organizations have been

2309
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:09,360
given out the same not empowerment okay

2310
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,840
underst some of that empowerment money

2311
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,320
was to rehab the building so if you have

2312
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,159
another building the program delivery

2313
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:26,390
can be moved

2314
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,280
Mr Williams I I feel comfortable

2315
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,239
speaking plainly uh I I don't golf but I

2316
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:33,599
understand the importance of us funding

2317
01:45:33,599 --> 01:45:35,239
the irrigation system because that is a

2318
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:37,560
really good resource within individuals

2319
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,960
that partake in that Community um I

2320
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,199
understood the importance of us doubling

2321
01:45:44,199 --> 01:45:46,719
our funding for the Central Park Pool I

2322
01:45:46,719 --> 01:45:49,080
don't swim but I understand the

2323
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,280
importance of providing that resource to

2324
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,599
not only our youth but parents who don't

2325
01:45:53,599 --> 01:45:55,239
have the ability to keep their bodies

2326
01:45:55,239 --> 01:45:57,599
cool down and hot and uh climates as as

2327
01:45:57,599 --> 01:46:01,880
we've been experiencing throughout the summer this year um I'm looking

2328
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,800
forward to the investment that Arena

2329
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,599
will bring to our community among other

2330
01:46:07,599 --> 01:46:11,480
tangible uh budget budgeted allocated it

2331
01:46:11,480 --> 01:46:14,119
items that facilitate a certain need for

2332
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:16,560
a certain Community I think it is safe

2333
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,719
to say that this community resource

2334
01:46:19,719 --> 01:46:22,000
center I don't have the words cuz I'm

2335
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,520
very passionate about this we need to

2336
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,800
find the funding and if that means that

2337
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,280
we need to dissolve the Empowerment

2338
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,199
Center as of now I am in full support of

2339
01:46:30,199 --> 01:46:32,840
doing that if that means it buys time

2340
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,239
for us to leverage other opportunities

2341
01:46:35,239 --> 01:46:36,920
but to say at this point we're now

2342
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,560
skeptical because all the numbers don't

2343
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,960
outline I would say I was supportive of

2344
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,360
other projects and I'm asking for that

2345
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:50,350
for

2346
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,159
this Madam president

2347
01:46:53,159 --> 01:46:55,080
you um you mentioned that you ask um DY

2348
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,560
for an updated budget is there is there

2349
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,520
any timeline attached to that August 9th

2350
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,920
August a Friday it's Friday thank you I

2351
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,159
missed that sorry and one one um one

2352
01:47:07,159 --> 01:47:09,080
other thing actually this is like more

2353
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,159
for finance when we um when the auditor

2354
01:47:12,159 --> 01:47:14,119
came one of the things he said is that

2355
01:47:14,119 --> 01:47:16,440
there were still 31 million in arpa

2356
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:18,480
funds so I don't know what that

2357
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:21,719
breakdown looks like of uh but if

2358
01:47:21,719 --> 01:47:23,639
there's I'm not sure he just said 31

2359
01:47:23,639 --> 01:47:25,199
million so I didn't know if that meant

2360
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:26,880
money that we

2361
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,000
had I didn't know what that number was

2362
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,960
allocated encumbered I didn't know what

2363
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,639
but he said there was still 31 million

2364
01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:36,320
in his audit report of arpa funds so my

2365
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:37,400
question

2366
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,440
is how is that money broken down what's

2367
01:47:40,440 --> 01:47:42,400
been allocated what's been encumbered

2368
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,000
how is that 31 million and that question

2369
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,159
is not for you but that question would

2370
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:49,239
be as we're considering this and um

2371
01:47:49,239 --> 01:47:54,679
seeking ways to fund uh projects where is that 31 what's that 31 million

2372
01:47:54,679 --> 01:47:55,880
breakdown look

2373
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,280
like so we would need the answer to that

2374
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:01,360
question so can we request an updated um

2375
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,360
our of

2376
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:07,000
allocation from Finance Finance in terms

2377
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,599
of what was allocated what was spent to

2378
01:48:08,599 --> 01:48:11,320
dat and what is available yes I see a

2379
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:14,310
money has

2380
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,040
been allocated appropriate may not have

2381
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,080
actually been spent so some of the cash

2382
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,440
is still there and that was as of

2383
01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:24,280
December 31st so it's over half a year

2384
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,920
ago and we've closed out some of these

2385
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,280
contracts we spent the money we paid for

2386
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,920
the swimming pool the things at the golf

2387
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,119
course so that that money is nowhere

2388
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:37,280
near 31 million

2389
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,679
in fre

2390
01:48:40,679 --> 01:48:44,280
for opera account too I can't you come

2391
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,719
up here because I can't hear you and I

2392
01:48:45,719 --> 01:48:53,070
want hear

2393
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,199
thank you um so as you aware some of

2394
01:48:56,199 --> 01:48:58,119
that money was in the general operating

2395
01:48:58,119 --> 01:49:01,159
account there all the funds in that um

2396
01:49:01,159 --> 01:49:03,840
capital projects um and the list of them

2397
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,679
in that you've been or just now but if

2398
01:49:07,679 --> 01:49:10,000
you need a breakdown sure do that for

2399
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,320
you what's been actually spent

2400
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,800
encumbered

2401
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,599
all yes I think that we need to see that that would be ideal to the council

2402
01:49:19,599 --> 01:49:21,320
to see where we

2403
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:27,709
are thank you very very

2404
01:49:27,719 --> 01:49:30,560
much are there other questions for Miss

2405
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,510
Carver or anything regarding the

2406
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,840
ARA thank you very much for your we'll

2407
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,080
look forward to getting the updated

2408
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,199
budget

2409
01:49:39,199 --> 01:49:43,880
and is there a plan to put all in have a

2410
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,040
discussion yes I will reach out um to

2411
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,760
the director of operations get May

2412
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:54,229
schedule and coordinate

2413
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:57,669
all right thank you very

2414
01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:00,560
much the next item on the agenda is to

2415
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,159
Award Big contract for the Central Park

2416
01:50:03,159 --> 01:50:13,350
roadway improvements Mr

2417
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,880
Wallen hello hello as you're aware uh so

2418
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,000
wanted to move forward with a Central

2419
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,320
Park complete Central Parkway complete

2420
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,440
Street project part of the sidewalk

2421
01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:25,960
Assessment program that the council put

2422
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,239
in place several years ago uh project

2423
01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:29,840
went through several designs the design

2424
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,639
that was landed on was concept D concept

2425
01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:36,000
D was put together bid uh we received

2426
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,440
numerous bids for the work uh the bids

2427
01:50:38,440 --> 01:50:41,119
are in your package the bids uh with the

2428
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:44,000
exception of an outlier were very tight

2429
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,679
and the low bid was Keller construction

2430
01:50:47,679 --> 01:50:51,840
at which I have here $1.07 million uh we

2431
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,960
have worked with before um not too much

2432
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,960
recently but I did reach out to their

2433
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,360
project manager today and speak with

2434
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,840
them with our engineer and uh they're

2435
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,079
comfortable with their bid and they're

2436
01:51:02,079 --> 01:51:04,520
looking to move forward with it so we

2437
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,480
have uh no reason not to move forward

2438
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:07,679
with the

2439
01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:10,800
bid any questions Mr M would you able to

2440
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:16,320
give us a brief timeline so the timeline

2441
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,639
is we discussed it today cuz I knew you

2442
01:51:18,639 --> 01:51:19,840
would asked about it we don't think

2443
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:20,920
we're going to have enough time to do

2444
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,840
the entire Street given the size of the

2445
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,079
street um there's two options that we

2446
01:51:25,079 --> 01:51:26,599
have and the option is we can do half of

2447
01:51:26,599 --> 01:51:29,000
the street possibly and do one side of

2448
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,599
it get the concrete in and and get the

2449
01:51:31,599 --> 01:51:34,400
sidewalk curb and all that do bind your

2450
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,199
course and leave it or we can push the

2451
01:51:36,199 --> 01:51:38,400
whole project and wait till the spring

2452
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,040
um the reason that we don't want to push

2453
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,920
the project uh too late is that the

2454
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,719
project is a concrete project

2455
01:51:46,719 --> 01:51:50,800
um a lot of concrete a lot of time and

2456
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,520
it's already August so what we need is

2457
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,679
if we place the concrete in October and

2458
01:51:56,679 --> 01:52:00,280
then somehow we get ice in November um

2459
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,000
and we have anyone put any kind of ice

2460
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,480
Mount down we would have to go out and

2461
01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:09,079
almost police it because you need a

2462
01:52:09,079 --> 01:52:11,800
minimum of 30 days and then it also gets

2463
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,679
into the back and forth of if something

2464
01:52:14,679 --> 01:52:16,440
were to happen like sping which has

2465
01:52:16,440 --> 01:52:18,440
happen on rare occasions on some

2466
01:52:18,440 --> 01:52:21,320
projects um it comes into a he said he

2467
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,520
said uh is is it the concrete or is it

2468
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,400
the salt and then we go back and forth

2469
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,880
uh on that so I really don't want to get

2470
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,639
into an entertaining where we have even

2471
01:52:31,639 --> 01:52:33,719
the question of that I really want to

2472
01:52:33,719 --> 01:52:35,400
make sure that the concrete sets up for

2473
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,280
30 days um we just did talk with the

2474
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:39,800
contractor today this would be a

2475
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,679
subcontractor so he's reaching out to

2476
01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:43,719
the subcontractor this week to see what

2477
01:52:43,719 --> 01:52:47,040
he can do also it's a lot of curbing

2478
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,719
it's an incredible amount of Curbing and

2479
01:52:48,719 --> 01:52:50,159
as you recall last year there was a

2480
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:53,679
curbing shortage now that has eased up

2481
01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:56,079
so there may be but this is a given the

2482
01:52:56,079 --> 01:52:57,679
islands and that the street would be

2483
01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:00,560
complete May over a lot of curving

2484
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,199
so I mean we want to push but at the

2485
01:53:04,199 --> 01:53:06,159
same time we don't want to cut our nose

2486
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:08,599
to fite our face and push just to get

2487
01:53:08,599 --> 01:53:12,360
half done and then have complaints uh

2488
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,920
that there could be an issue or you know

2489
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,239
somebody you know what's going to happen

2490
01:53:15,239 --> 01:53:17,040
is someone is going to put out some type

2491
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:18,760
of a ro rock salt thinking it's not a

2492
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,880
rock salt and there could be an issue so

2493
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,440
uh to void that but I know that we said

2494
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:24,599
we're going to try to get it done this

2495
01:53:24,599 --> 01:53:26,199
year I'm not trying to make excuses but

2496
01:53:26,199 --> 01:53:27,960
the timing is what it is it's it's

2497
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,199
August and this is a very large

2498
01:53:30,199 --> 01:53:32,000
project there's also there's also

2499
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,320
drainage involved I just want to make

2500
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,119
sure you're aware of that we are this is

2501
01:53:35,119 --> 01:53:37,960
not this is a big project we're putting

2502
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,719
in all new catch basins we're redoing

2503
01:53:39,719 --> 01:53:41,440
some of the drainage we're putting in

2504
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:43,440
parking we're putting in new you know

2505
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:45,639
subbase where there currently is grass

2506
01:53:45,639 --> 01:53:48,320
so it's a large project it's much larger

2507
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,960
than the past um sidewalk assessment

2508
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,679
projects that we've done in the city

2509
01:53:52,679 --> 01:53:54,679
this is more of a street reconstruction

2510
01:53:54,679 --> 01:53:57,199
so that's why timeing if we were to do

2511
01:53:57,199 --> 01:53:59,560
half it would most likely be the side

2512
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,239
without the parking cuz we feel like

2513
01:54:01,239 --> 01:54:05,199
that side would be quicker um and so

2514
01:54:05,199 --> 01:54:06,639
there could be a benefit to doing that

2515
01:54:06,639 --> 01:54:08,840
but I just need to make sure that the

2516
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:14,310
sidewalk is in in enough time to cure

2517
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,400
inside so what would that be your

2518
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,239
recommendation to do half of it on the

2519
01:54:19,239 --> 01:54:20,840
side without the parking so that you

2520
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,920
have something there this year

2521
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,440
that's probably not my recommendation I

2522
01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:28,560
don't think to disturb everyone and go

2523
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,360
forward just to just to say that we did

2524
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,159
it I don't know if that's good because

2525
01:54:33,159 --> 01:54:34,599
we would get half of it done and let's

2526
01:54:34,599 --> 01:54:37,400
say we're all done and out of there by

2527
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,760
November 1st right all done paid uh to

2528
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,800
binder course we wouldn't be top course

2529
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,960
so I mean even saying that out loud

2530
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,199
right that would mean that if we put the

2531
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:48,960
curb in there we're an inch lower so our

2532
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,119
1in curber Beals now are 2 in at

2533
01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:52,360
driveway so I'm going to get complet

2534
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,440
complains about my driveway is too steep

2535
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,199
you know there's a lot that could could

2536
01:54:56,199 --> 01:54:58,040
go in and I don't know about the economy

2537
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,400
you know like we waited for Kings Road

2538
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,440
Bridge until the end of winter so that

2539
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,960
we could start and get it done in one

2540
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,079
season instead of starting and shutting

2541
01:55:07,079 --> 01:55:10,320
down and starting again so I would I

2542
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,440
would probably recommend that we just

2543
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,239
get it all done in one but I'll wait to

2544
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:15,760
hear back from the contractor you know I

2545
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,040
see you guys every 2 weeks I can report

2546
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,040
back to you at the next time but we just

2547
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:21,760
talked with them today I can see what

2548
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,800
their sub contractor schedu is but I

2549
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,119
don't think there's any I don't think

2550
01:55:26,119 --> 01:55:27,960
there's any right now C that has the

2551
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:32,599
entire Street done by November 1st I

2552
01:55:32,599 --> 01:55:34,440
just think it's too much of a project

2553
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,040
and we remember we have to do contracts

2554
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,000
and bonds and there you know there's a

2555
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,000
lot of leg work after you after you

2556
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,800
approve it as well so does is there any

2557
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,199
consideration to have multiple um

2558
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:50,400
contractor subcontractor for this

2559
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,679
project um is that possible

2560
01:55:53,679 --> 01:55:56,199
possibly to push it I I could see if we

2561
01:55:56,199 --> 01:55:58,159
really want to if that's something that

2562
01:55:58,159 --> 01:56:00,400
you want to look at is to see if I could

2563
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:01,679
you know said that we want to get this

2564
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:03,280
done by a certain timeline and see what

2565
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,599
they say

2566
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:08,760
sure I I think you should consider

2567
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:13,430
that as an option

2568
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:15,960
okay does that in facted the Integrity

2569
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,119
of the project by have that many hands

2570
01:56:18,119 --> 01:56:20,719
and that close to a

2571
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:22,679
space well I would have to make sure

2572
01:56:22,679 --> 01:56:24,639
they're all subs the issue that I would

2573
01:56:24,639 --> 01:56:26,880
have feel like that it would do is that

2574
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,480
if we were to push and ask them to put

2575
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,280
extra labor to set a deadline that I

2576
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,400
didn't state in the bid you know we said

2577
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,639
that you had 120 days to complete the

2578
01:56:34,639 --> 01:56:36,960
project um not that you had to get it

2579
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:41,800
done by October 1st um so if we were to

2580
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:48,719
do that you know inevitably what is the saying is you know cheap quick or uh

2581
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:50,960
you know cheap quick or good so I'm

2582
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,239
going to tell you if we we put a 60-day

2583
01:56:53,239 --> 01:56:54,599
deadline on this it's not going to be

2584
01:56:54,599 --> 01:56:55,960
any cheaper they're going to come back

2585
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:57,679
with us for some kind of a change order

2586
01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:01,320
which I could come to the table and talk

2587
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,040
about and and once again every there are

2588
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,360
jobs committed for these contractors

2589
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,360
We're Not The Only Game in Town doing

2590
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:09,520
construction this is something that

2591
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:12,679
they're putting on their agenda um if

2592
01:57:12,679 --> 01:57:16,119
you'd like I know I could reach out to

2593
01:57:16,119 --> 01:57:18,040
the second or third and and find out but

2594
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:19,800
that just delays the award and I don't

2595
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,280
know how that works with purchasing

2596
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:22,960
about you know setting a deadline that

2597
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,880
wasn't necessarily in the contract they

2598
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,950
said that they can do in 120

2599
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,760
days yes it's just worth having to make

2600
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,639
you said just ask the question see what

2601
01:57:34,639 --> 01:57:37,320
feedback you get you know um but I can

2602
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,280
get information before next Monday I

2603
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:40,639
would

2604
01:57:40,639 --> 01:57:43,719
I your judg get the

2605
01:57:43,719 --> 01:57:46,920
information so um so I I I would also

2606
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,400
have concerns if we had too many hands

2607
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:50,520
in the pot that we you know that

2608
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:51,880
concerned about the Integrity of the

2609
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:52,880
project

2610
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:54,480
and if it's rushed because we're saying

2611
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:55,880
to them you have to have by now I want

2612
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,719
to make sure that we're getting quality

2613
01:57:57,719 --> 01:57:59,159
projects that's going to last for years

2614
01:57:59,159 --> 01:58:00,239
and

2615
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:02,199
not that's the complication with

2616
01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:03,440
projects like this too is that the

2617
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,440
homeowners put money out of their own

2618
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,599
Pockets into these projects I know tax

2619
01:58:07,599 --> 01:58:09,280
dollars are everybody's pocket money but

2620
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,960
this is a little bit more close to home

2621
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,760
so on these projects they are a little

2622
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,079
bit more of a pain um because everyone

2623
01:58:18,079 --> 01:58:19,599
is a little bit more involved and there

2624
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:25,669
is a lot of uh community invol ment

2625
01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:29,159
so a deadline to get it done the entire

2626
01:58:29,159 --> 01:58:31,880
project this year makes a tough project

2627
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,119
harder but it's not to say it makes it

2628
01:58:34,119 --> 01:58:36,239
impossible this is also not my only

2629
01:58:36,239 --> 01:58:37,679
project

2630
01:58:37,679 --> 01:58:40,440
so cuz right now you're asking us to

2631
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,040
just go ahead and award this tonight

2632
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:44,920
however if you're looking at Subs then

2633
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:48,040
we wouldn't be able to do that

2634
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,520
no

2635
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,639
substitute so so should we should we

2636
01:58:53,639 --> 01:58:55,480
hold off on this until you come back to

2637
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,239
us for two

2638
01:58:57,239 --> 01:59:00,440
weeks the longer we wait the real thing

2639
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,239
is to award the

2640
01:59:02,239 --> 01:59:05,280
contract have Chris meet with the

2641
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,719
contractor and go over the timeline and

2642
01:59:07,719 --> 01:59:08,880
maybe things that are going to move

2643
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:10,840
faster than some of the assumptions are

2644
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:12,920
or it's just what the reality of the

2645
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:16,239
project is so does it get done this year

2646
01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:19,679
does it move till next year I would yeah

2647
01:59:19,679 --> 01:59:22,480
I would move forward as right now let me

2648
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,119
try to get you some information before

2649
01:59:24,119 --> 01:59:26,119
Monday and then if you don't want to

2650
01:59:26,119 --> 01:59:27,639
vote on it Monday that's your

2651
01:59:27,639 --> 01:59:29,679
prerogative to not vote on it Monday and

2652
01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:32,199
we can go to another step you know and

2653
01:59:32,199 --> 01:59:37,719
see what else we have here but just to not would delay us two more weeks to

2654
01:59:37,719 --> 01:59:39,159
get us and we're talking about trying to

2655
01:59:39,159 --> 01:59:41,199
save

2656
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:47,159
time okay all right and motion so second

2657
01:59:47,159 --> 01:59:50,920
all those in favor thank you very much M

2658
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:52,800
all right uh there's nothing else to

2659
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,719
come before City development and cling I

2660
01:59:54,719 --> 01:59:56,119
can a motion to

2661
01:59:56,119 --> 01:59:59,679
adjourn second all those in favor weour

2662
01:59:59,679 --> 02:00:02,280
thank you very much like to call

2663
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:03,960
government operations we have three

2664
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,320
items on the agenda um first being there

2665
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:11,159
regarding the raming of city street U to

2666
02:00:11,159 --> 02:00:15,800
Luigi Lane um so family have came forth

2667
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:18,280
and as you all know that um there's

2668
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,480
another uh family that came forth and

2669
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:22,599
wanted

2670
02:00:22,599 --> 02:00:26,639
um us to include and recognize um their

2671
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:28,880
family member who was also a large

2672
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,440
contributor um to the success of you

2673
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,960
know set establishment and also had some

2674
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:38,040
um pretty significant uh impact on the

2675
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:41,280
surrounding Community as well um

2676
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,960
received emails um from

2677
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,199
people asking us about this I just

2678
02:00:46,199 --> 02:00:47,280
wanted to kind of bring this a

2679
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,400
discussion on um I receiv the email

2680
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,800
today and I guess you know I would share

2681
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:58,000
my thoughts with the um for us to uh

2682
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:00,159
stay the course that uh we were moving

2683
02:01:00,159 --> 02:01:03,320
forward on um but renaming it um I think

2684
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,960
that there's other options um I mean

2685
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:07,119
again if you think about it it's kind of

2686
02:01:07,119 --> 02:01:08,599
a good problem to have right that we

2687
02:01:08,599 --> 02:01:10,360
have people who have contributed so much

2688
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:13,000
to our community um and we should look

2689
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:14,679
for as many opportunities as we possibly

2690
02:01:14,679 --> 02:01:17,800
can to celebrate them and their uh

2691
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:23,040
achievements and contributions so my uh thought would be um you know working

2692
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:27,400
with uh the family to find um a a

2693
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:31,480
separate and um way of kind to to to

2694
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,040
support and celebrate the contributions

2695
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,159
that uh the family member had that's

2696
02:01:35,159 --> 02:01:39,520
what I was thinking that's support so um

2697
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:40,840
as you stated that you know we had a

2698
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:42,400
public hearing and another family came

2699
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,880
forward and then we received um emails

2700
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:49,079
and also feedback from from others

2701
02:01:49,079 --> 02:01:52,679
including um Mr M I spoke about so so

2702
02:01:52,679 --> 02:01:54,040
there were three things that were

2703
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:56,159
presented so I'll just put those out

2704
02:01:56,159 --> 02:01:58,280
there that um could be considered

2705
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:00,599
obviously the very first one um keeping

2706
02:02:00,599 --> 02:02:04,639
at Luigi blae and then having a sign or

2707
02:02:04,639 --> 02:02:06,639
some I don't even know what you call

2708
02:02:06,639 --> 02:02:08,480
them similar to the one that they just

2709
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,760
did at the baseball field down behind

2710
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:13,000
the college uh where it just kind of

2711
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:14,679
outlines the whole history and obviously

2712
02:02:14,679 --> 02:02:16,840
within that history it would be the name

2713
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:22,360
of the um the owner after um Mr is this

2714
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:27,199
last name Luigi or first luig luig first

2715
02:02:27,199 --> 02:02:30,520
name okay so um that was the one one of

2716
02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:33,520
the options the other option was to keep

2717
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,560
the street name exactly the same Barrett

2718
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:38,520
Lane Barrett Village Lane and to have

2719
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:40,920
two cere ceremonial signs under it one

2720
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:42,800
saying you know one with each name

2721
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,320
that's been brought forward and then the

2722
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:48,000
third option was to just call it Luigi's

2723
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,320
Lane which then really named it after

2724
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,000
the restaurant and not the IND

2725
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:56,400
individual those were the three that um

2726
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,360
suggestions that were given to

2727
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:01,079
me

2728
02:03:01,079 --> 02:03:04,360
I what I'd like to see again I don't

2729
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,679
think I don't think we want to end up

2730
02:03:06,679 --> 02:03:10,800
taking away from the initial uh action

2731
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,159
course that we were taking because I

2732
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:15,599
think that uh this gentleman um deserves

2733
02:03:15,599 --> 02:03:18,800
the recognition and and its

2734
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:22,560
entirety so I I mean I would think that

2735
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,280
another kind of um I I guess plaque um

2736
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:26,440
that which you were talking about that

2737
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,880
was on the um ConEd Community College

2738
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,119
schools and I to which is a beautiful

2739
02:03:31,119 --> 02:03:34,280
thing I think that you know um find

2740
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:38,069
finding a way to

2741
02:03:38,079 --> 02:03:41,560
uh to celebrate um both individuals

2742
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,199
without taking away for one I think is

2743
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:45,960
that that's really the the best course

2744
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,760
of action but I definitely welcome

2745
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:49,880
council

2746
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,280
member I I agree with you

2747
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,239
um I've been thinking about this and

2748
02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:57,119
mulling over actually the three pretty

2749
02:03:57,119 --> 02:03:59,199
much the three things that you said um

2750
02:03:59,199 --> 02:04:01,559
Miss pfield and I do think moving

2751
02:04:01,559 --> 02:04:03,159
forward with the original course of

2752
02:04:03,159 --> 02:04:06,199
action is the way to go and the idea of

2753
02:04:06,199 --> 02:04:08,480
in some other way recognizing I mean

2754
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:10,079
there might be other people as well that

2755
02:04:10,079 --> 02:04:12,800
might have worked um at the restaurant

2756
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,920
uh as long as for a length of time uh

2757
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:17,920
similar to the other the other person

2758
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,440
that whose family came forward so I I

2759
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:22,280
agree with Mr Farley on this

2760
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,960
and I think it's also not I'm sorry I

2761
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:29,000
just oh probably not appropriate I just

2762
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:30,360
wanted to point one thing out cuz I've

2763
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:31,400
been talking with the family I just

2764
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:32,480
wanted to make sure I know that they're

2765
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:33,639
not supposed to speak is that the

2766
02:04:33,639 --> 02:04:35,679
original idea to your point was it was

2767
02:04:35,679 --> 02:04:37,679
Luigi the person not Luigi's the

2768
02:04:37,679 --> 02:04:38,960
restaurant I know we're all clear on

2769
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,679
that and even though it predated me uh

2770
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:43,239
from these restaurants from talking with

2771
02:04:43,239 --> 02:04:44,639
the community and even talking with Gary

2772
02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:45,920
in my office and I'm sure some of you

2773
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,719
might remember the the reason of the

2774
02:04:48,719 --> 02:04:51,320
push with the IG G's with the apost S

2775
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,119
possi not being the best and going to

2776
02:04:53,119 --> 02:04:55,719
something more um educational like some

2777
02:04:55,719 --> 02:04:58,040
kind of a plaque was that according to

2778
02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:59,280
the people I talked to that grew up in

2779
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,079
that area there were multiple

2780
02:05:01,079 --> 02:05:02,760
restaurants that were next to each other

2781
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,760
possibly a Stella's and Luigi's and a

2782
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:08,880
third and I just if we go down that road

2783
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,760
of the sign and being for a restaurant

2784
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:13,199
when there were many restaurants that

2785
02:05:13,199 --> 02:05:14,800
probably are very close to people and

2786
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,920
not the person I think you're opening

2787
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:19,559
yourselves up to just a larger

2788
02:05:19,559 --> 02:05:22,040
interpretation whereas we could stick

2789
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,880
with it is about a person not a place

2790
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,400
and that the signs could be about the

2791
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:29,440
place and I think it's not a terrible

2792
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:33,719
idea just because that area is newer it

2793
02:05:33,719 --> 02:05:34,920
does not really fit in with the

2794
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:36,079
character of the street even though it's

2795
02:05:36,079 --> 02:05:38,159
moose connect as we call it living concy

2796
02:05:38,159 --> 02:05:39,639
but something there to talk about the

2797
02:05:39,639 --> 02:05:42,559
old SKC might be worthwhile to do and

2798
02:05:42,559 --> 02:05:44,119
set some kind of standard for the rest

2799
02:05:44,119 --> 02:05:45,480
of the area I just wanted to make sure

2800
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:47,079
that got pointed out because a couple

2801
02:05:47,079 --> 02:05:48,760
people came up to me and said you know

2802
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,320
there were multiple restaurants there

2803
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,360
even though when I went to the wees

2804
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,440
there weren't because I can't date

2805
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:55,840
myself but we're talking about something

2806
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,480
that started in the ' 50s so I just

2807
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:01,639
wanted to make sure I pointed that

2808
02:06:01,639 --> 02:06:05,520
out yes so I think to to Mr as well this

2809
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,920
is about this is about a person and the

2810
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:09,599
contribution is not necessarily a place

2811
02:06:09,599 --> 02:06:11,119
I think the place is part of the larger

2812
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:15,239
story um and and you know uh family

2813
02:06:15,239 --> 02:06:18,280
members have reached out and um and have

2814
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:20,639
even said that you know that Miss

2815
02:06:20,639 --> 02:06:23,960
marleene Hill um has made significant uh

2816
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,280
contributions and they would love to see

2817
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,840
um her her honor in her own right um so

2818
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,760
I would again my my suggestion would be

2819
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,840
we move forward um as plan and work with

2820
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,639
the family of marlin Hill for something

2821
02:06:37,639 --> 02:06:40,000
that's going to be um acceptable for

2822
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:41,559
them and to broader Community to

2823
02:06:41,559 --> 02:06:44,639
celebrate her accomplishments as

2824
02:06:44,639 --> 02:06:48,229
well anyone

2825
02:06:48,239 --> 02:06:53,119
else I'm oh I'm sorry

2826
02:06:53,119 --> 02:06:55,639
I like that that plan I remember mother

2827
02:06:55,639 --> 02:06:58,320
phoh being one of those restaurants that

2828
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:04,629
used to go thean

2829
02:07:04,639 --> 02:07:08,119
and those owners had almost equal time

2830
02:07:08,119 --> 02:07:11,199
it was Luigi Hill came in and ran One

2831
02:07:11,199 --> 02:07:13,719
restaurant for a longer period of

2832
02:07:13,719 --> 02:07:16,639
time when when Luigi's long than the

2833
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:17,719
other

2834
02:07:17,719 --> 02:07:21,559
two Mama Pharaoh's and Mama bianes and

2835
02:07:21,559 --> 02:07:25,320
Luigi's were like the three anchors

2836
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,079
there they're about the same amount of

2837
02:07:28,079 --> 02:07:30,040
time oh

2838
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:33,119
okay so again it seems like we have uh

2839
02:07:33,119 --> 02:07:35,079
again these are good quote unquote

2840
02:07:35,079 --> 02:07:36,400
problems to have I think that we should

2841
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,520
be looking any way we can to celebrate

2842
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:40,000
how the contributions of the people that

2843
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:41,880
live here so I think that's what we'll

2844
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:43,920
do um is there any

2845
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,679
other thoughts on

2846
02:07:46,679 --> 02:07:49,639
that uh to your point I think it's it's

2847
02:07:49,639 --> 02:07:51,280
a beautiful thing and we can make sure

2848
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,079
we capture the history throughout our

2849
02:07:53,079 --> 02:07:55,000
community which is very very vast and

2850
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,360
identify ways to make sure as the Next

2851
02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:58,880
Generation comes about those items are

2852
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:01,040
not forgotten um I don't think there's

2853
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:02,480
any need to repeat any in the comments

2854
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:04,679
which I do agree just want to add that c

2855
02:08:04,679 --> 02:08:06,719
as

2856
02:08:06,719 --> 02:08:08,679
well

2857
02:08:08,679 --> 02:08:12,119
okay yeah I suggested that we co-name

2858
02:08:12,119 --> 02:08:14,679
the street to recognize both individual

2859
02:08:14,679 --> 02:08:16,880
who had made significant contribution to

2860
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,199
that block that street but I mean if

2861
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:20,559
majority of the comment like to move

2862
02:08:20,559 --> 02:08:22,840
forward and respect your recommendation

2863
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:25,119
to move forward with what we have for

2864
02:08:25,119 --> 02:08:30,800
the Luigi's Luigi um reaming but at the

2865
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,760
same time I welcome that suggestion to

2866
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:37,040
Let's honor the other individual also

2867
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:38,679
because both have made significant

2868
02:08:38,679 --> 02:08:40,320
contribution here based on the

2869
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,760
information that we have in front of us

2870
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,239
so we can move forward one and then at

2871
02:08:45,239 --> 02:08:46,760
the same time pick up the pace and

2872
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,520
trying to recognize the other individual

2873
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:53,119
in a short distance time

2874
02:08:53,119 --> 02:08:55,480
so in terms of moving forward with the

2875
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:57,119
um the other family and talking about

2876
02:08:57,119 --> 02:08:58,719
what I'm going to call a historic marker

2877
02:08:58,719 --> 02:09:00,520
that's going be on

2878
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:02,800
okay um I just want to make sure that we

2879
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:07,599
do that as you know sometimes um you

2880
02:09:07,599 --> 02:09:09,520
know things get lost and SAU but then my

2881
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:12,280
other question is generally

2882
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,040
who is that something cost we absorb

2883
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:16,880
mayor if we're renaming a street do we

2884
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:18,320
just do the new street sign that's all

2885
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:22,149
us on us

2886
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:24,559
and the responsibility is to the cities

2887
02:09:24,559 --> 02:09:26,480
to do it if somebody would like to make

2888
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,520
a donation on that behalf I of course we

2889
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:32,920
not turn that down yes and how about a

2890
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,440
historic marker if we did that would be

2891
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:38,760
the similar I just one to mix find out

2892
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:43,270
where the how the cost would be

2893
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:45,920
covered I move

2894
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:49,400
this second those in favor

2895
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:54,679
I okay next time we city code chapter 28

2896
02:09:54,679 --> 02:09:57,559
second 29 standing committee president P

2897
02:09:57,559 --> 02:09:59,880
thank you um so our standing committees

2898
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:01,880
aren't committees that meet on a regular

2899
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:04,119
basis ideally if we would then we'd have

2900
02:10:04,119 --> 02:10:05,199
more discussion at the standing

2901
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:06,119
committees than the Committees would

2902
02:10:06,119 --> 02:10:09,440
bring to the council um but that has not

2903
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,520
necessarily been the case however we did

2904
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,559
recently have a u meeting of the

2905
02:10:13,559 --> 02:10:15,520
standing committee and there were there

2906
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,199
was some discussion on how committee

2907
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:19,520
reports were handled so what I provided

2908
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:23,280
for the council is um chapter 28 um

2909
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:27,440
sections 27- 29 about how a f committee

2910
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,719
should operate and so you all have that

2911
02:10:30,719 --> 02:10:34,559
and the specific conversation was around

2912
02:10:34,559 --> 02:10:36,800
um uh section

2913
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:39,639
28-28 which is the Quorum and reports of

2914
02:10:39,639 --> 02:10:42,199
the committee and it states that two

2915
02:10:42,199 --> 02:10:44,000
committee members shall ACC to the quum

2916
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:45,840
and reports of the committee shall be in

2917
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:48,360
writing and shall not be received unless

2918
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:52,239
signed by at least two members so

2919
02:10:52,239 --> 02:10:55,840
um I mentioned that to the chair of that

2920
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,119
particular committee and there was some

2921
02:10:58,119 --> 02:11:00,000
discussion as whether or not that was

2922
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:01,599
correct my understanding is I wasn't

2923
02:11:01,599 --> 02:11:03,079
there but it was recorded and publicly

2924
02:11:03,079 --> 02:11:04,840
so I want to publicly have this

2925
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:11,239
discussion that um if whoever said that being me um based on the code you

2926
02:11:11,239 --> 02:11:12,599
know is not a person that needs to have

2927
02:11:12,599 --> 02:11:16,079
a seat at tables is what was said so um

2928
02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:18,000
I don't take well I guess I do take

2929
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:19,480
exception to that but I just want to be

2930
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:21,320
clear that any information that I

2931
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:22,719
provide to the council I'm getting it

2932
02:11:22,719 --> 02:11:23,960
directly from the code it's not

2933
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:26,040
something I'm making up or applying to

2934
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,800
one individual or one committee that is

2935
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:31,400
not apply to other committees so I just

2936
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,760
wanted to make sure that everyone um had

2937
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:35,400
this in front of them and knew that that

2938
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:37,040
is something that's actually in the code

2939
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:39,199
it's not something that I'm asking for

2940
02:11:39,199 --> 02:11:41,599
as a council president because it's my

2941
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:43,840
um my purview or my desire but it's

2942
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:46,440
actually in the city code so you know

2943
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,239
again that discussion take took place

2944
02:11:48,239 --> 02:11:50,239
publicly and was recorded So I just want

2945
02:11:50,239 --> 02:11:51,960
to make sure that it's public on record

2946
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:53,840
that this is a part of the city code in

2947
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,119
terms of those things being en wred for

2948
02:11:56,119 --> 02:11:57,559
the standing

2949
02:11:57,559 --> 02:12:00,119
committees that that's it so unless

2950
02:12:00,119 --> 02:12:02,199
anybody has any questions around that CH

2951
02:12:02,199 --> 02:12:06,280
comments on that so Mr saying that the

2952
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:08,599
committee chairs can make or over Courts

2953
02:12:08,599 --> 02:12:10,840
at committee meetings oh no I'm saying

2954
02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:13,159
we need both no absolutely they can do

2955
02:12:13,159 --> 02:12:14,280
that but we also have to have it

2956
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:15,800
submitted in writing for the records

2957
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:18,079
according to this that's I'm not I'm not

2958
02:12:18,079 --> 02:12:20,159
out saying no oral

2959
02:12:20,159 --> 02:12:22,320
reports because the the committee chair

2960
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:24,360
did give an oral report and then that

2961
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:25,480
report would be in writing and then

2962
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:27,480
turned in whatever was reported would be

2963
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:30,360
then turned in to um the cl's office

2964
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,960
just going by the code yes well actually

2965
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:34,880
um just for some clarification further

2966
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:37,079
then because I've now asked for um a

2967
02:12:37,079 --> 02:12:38,719
written report to come from the city

2968
02:12:38,719 --> 02:12:41,000
clerk's office of the minutes minutes

2969
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:42,760
were taken at the meeting and that was

2970
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,679
what I was then when I received that

2971
02:12:44,679 --> 02:12:46,559
I'll go to the other two committee

2972
02:12:46,559 --> 02:12:49,840
members um and ask them to you know

2973
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,000
hopefully we'll sign off on um on the

2974
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,440
minutes of the meeting that's what I

2975
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,840
thought that was suggesting no the

2976
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:57,400
written report should be the oral report

2977
02:12:57,400 --> 02:12:59,360
that you gave it should should reflect

2978
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:00,719
report that you gave now you submitting

2979
02:13:00,719 --> 02:13:02,440
in

2980
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:06,199
right okay the cour used to once upon a

2981
02:13:06,199 --> 02:13:08,520
time when I was on city

2982
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:11,880
council reduced the minutes and then for

2983
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,920
those minutes to be formalized it took

2984
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:17,000
the signature of at least two city

2985
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:19,599
council members who were in attendance

2986
02:13:19,599 --> 02:13:22,040
if three members are there and all three

2987
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,280
would sign the

2988
02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:26,239
Amendments I don't know do you still do

2989
02:13:26,239 --> 02:13:29,159
that Sam or we have meeting this was the

2990
02:13:29,159 --> 02:13:31,719
first time we've had since I've been on

2991
02:13:31,719 --> 02:13:33,159
Council this was the first time I've

2992
02:13:33,159 --> 02:13:35,880
participated in the committee meeting so

2993
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:37,719
um well we're in a committee meeting

2994
02:13:37,719 --> 02:13:39,960
right now well I meant I mean a

2995
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:42,199
sub a standing

2996
02:13:42,199 --> 02:13:44,520
committee Parks and Recreation is a

2997
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:52,599
standing Comm right so yes is the expectation for the

2998
02:13:52,599 --> 02:13:55,040
city clerk to be present at all

2999
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:57,360
committee meetings including standing

3000
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,280
committees I know that there would the

3001
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,800
deputy clerk was at the last meeting so

3002
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,239
again something that we have

3003
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:06,480
done so here we

3004
02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:08,840
are oh so the deputy clerk was not

3005
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:11,199
supposed to be I didn't I said it's not

3006
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:13,639
something that we have been have done so

3007
02:14:13,639 --> 02:14:15,199
I just want to make sure that we just

3008
02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:16,920
you know have those those minutes in in

3009
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:19,239
writing and so I'm

3010
02:14:19,239 --> 02:14:22,239
not I'm not clear why there's there's a

3011
02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:24,920
controversy around it so but it seem to

3012
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:28,189
have been at the meeting but I wasn't

3013
02:14:28,199 --> 02:14:30,800
present so everyone's pretty clear

3014
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:32,599
moving forward on that any questions

3015
02:14:32,599 --> 02:14:35,040
comments on

3016
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,280
that okay thank you m president move

3017
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:39,440
forward

3018
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:42,559
then okay last item on the agenda is

3019
02:14:42,559 --> 02:14:44,079
discussion of Charter divisions

3020
02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:46,880
president P thank you um the mayor

3021
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:49,079
brought forward about the CH revisions

3022
02:14:49,079 --> 02:14:51,800
based on um section

3023
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:55,320
6 C excuse me c 6-8 regarding the

3024
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:57,079
operating budget at our um last

3025
02:14:57,079 --> 02:14:59,079
committee meeting and there was um

3026
02:14:59,079 --> 02:15:01,599
discussion that was proposed to change

3027
02:15:01,599 --> 02:15:03,599
it only um that was submitted through

3028
02:15:03,599 --> 02:15:05,000
the law department on behalf of the

3029
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:07,280
mayor only to look at that but during

3030
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:08,800
the discussion it was noted that there

3031
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,320
were other revisions in the charter that

3032
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,360
maybe needed to happen and that we

3033
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:15,199
should take a comprehensive look um at

3034
02:15:15,199 --> 02:15:17,520
that so what I provided for you and I

3035
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,280
agree with that so um what I provided

3036
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:23,239
for you is we talked a little bit about

3037
02:15:23,239 --> 02:15:25,960
the um the methods of revising the

3038
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:29,520
charter so starting on well the page

3039
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,000
number overlaps so it's going to be hard

3040
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:36,159
for you to see but one two three like on

3041
02:15:36,159 --> 02:15:38,920
the back of the third third page in it

3042
02:15:38,920 --> 02:15:40,920
starts with approaches to Charter

3043
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:43,119
revisions um talks about revision by

3044
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:45,800
commission Charter rision by initi

3045
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:48,040
initiate initiative and referendum and

3046
02:15:48,040 --> 02:15:51,040
direct legislation so um I thought we

3047
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:52,760
need to have start having the discussion

3048
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:54,320
as we're going to be looking at the

3049
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:56,800
charter not uh in my opinion I don't

3050
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:58,480
know if the entire Charter certainly

3051
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:00,239
needs to be

3052
02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:03,480
um revised but the parts that do that we

3053
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:05,320
do it in a comprehensive way so that we

3054
02:16:05,320 --> 02:16:06,520
just move through all those things

3055
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:08,800
forward at one time so I'm bringing

3056
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:10,840
forward the um guidelines that I

3057
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:12,880
received from New York State on how this

3058
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,430
is

3059
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:18,480
done so I'm opening that up for discuss

3060
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:21,559
yeah I'm opening up for discussion

3061
02:16:21,559 --> 02:16:24,679
any questions or comments

3062
02:16:24,679 --> 02:16:28,040
on Yeah question um I'd like to ask

3063
02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:30,239
Council um whether we could still move

3064
02:16:30,239 --> 02:16:33,439
forward with looking at the one piece of

3065
02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:35,719
Charter revision that actually had a

3066
02:16:35,719 --> 02:16:38,800
time it definitely had sort of a timing

3067
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:40,599
kind of thing um although it wouldn't

3068
02:16:40,599 --> 02:16:43,200
affect us it was pling to affect the

3069
02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:46,760
2026 budget right not the 2025 Bud

3070
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:49,080
discussions but it's still bumping up

3071
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:51,920
against some time periods so I just if

3072
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:53,080
you want to have a public hearing you

3073
02:16:53,080 --> 02:17:00,830
can do it next week calling for and

3074
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:04,000
then maybe voting it on the 19th but I

3075
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:06,639
think that's cutting close but we can

3076
02:17:06,639 --> 02:17:09,280
look at that um because then it would

3077
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:10,840
have to go to

3078
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:14,200
the mayor after us and then he has to

3079
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:17,479
give notice for his public hearing M

3080
02:17:17,479 --> 02:17:20,160
which has to be 5 days M and then he has

3081
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:21,760
to make a decision

3082
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,559
if he accepts it then it's September 5th

3083
02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:27,399
I mean we're getting September 3rd I

3084
02:17:27,399 --> 02:17:29,559
think we're looking at Tuesday and the

3085
02:17:29,559 --> 02:17:31,800
3D so it's

3086
02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:35,679
getting getting close particular in

3087
02:17:35,679 --> 02:17:39,240
regarding this particular the council

3088
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:40,240
wishes

3089
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:43,200
to put anything on the ballot this fall

3090
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:44,719
for no

3091
02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:47,080
okay based on the last I'm sorry but

3092
02:17:47,080 --> 02:17:50,960
based on the last time that you told us that that that wasn't even

3093
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:53,280
possibility well it's because what you

3094
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:55,920
do is once again you're dealing with a

3095
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:57,439
local law and putting it on the

3096
02:17:57,439 --> 02:18:01,479
referendum and it would still be uh time

3097
02:18:01,479 --> 02:18:03,359
periods that we're talking about and

3098
02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:05,080
then you would have to put a commission

3099
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:07,880
together which you know and what what of

3100
02:18:07,880 --> 02:18:10,679
the if it's if it's created by the

3101
02:18:10,679 --> 02:18:13,200
legislature then you have to indicate

3102
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:16,880
how you wish to have that body who's

3103
02:18:16,880 --> 02:18:18,280
going to be the chairman count of

3104
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:20,519
members how they were appointed Etc so

3105
02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:23,760
that's in a in a process or is under the

3106
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:25,319
mayor

3107
02:18:25,319 --> 02:18:29,240
oral part of the municipal home rule law

3108
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,960
it already States how you know how many

3109
02:18:31,960 --> 02:18:33,399
you know the members and how it's

3110
02:18:33,399 --> 02:18:35,479
appointed and it's mayoral appointments

3111
02:18:35,479 --> 02:18:38,240
Etc whereas if it's created via the

3112
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:40,639
legislature commission it's it's much

3113
02:18:40,639 --> 02:18:43,359
more you have to develop the rules and

3114
02:18:43,359 --> 02:18:46,240
how many members and how you you know

3115
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:48,599
what their terms are etc etc so it's a

3116
02:18:48,599 --> 02:18:50,880
little bit more involved especially

3117
02:18:50,880 --> 02:18:53,439
we're talking about the time FR

3118
02:18:53,439 --> 02:18:56,669
involved

3119
02:18:56,679 --> 02:18:59,840
so but that is from what I looked at um

3120
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:03,519
in what we were sent um we could ask the

3121
02:19:03,519 --> 02:19:04,960
mayor to put together the charter

3122
02:19:04,960 --> 02:19:08,319
commission if we wanted to look at the

3123
02:19:08,319 --> 02:19:11,200
whole Charter but it seemed to me that

3124
02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:13,200
we still I guess I'm just asking the

3125
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:15,920
question because of the timing aspect of

3126
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:19,080
the one particular thing that came to us

3127
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:21,240
regarding that November one

3128
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,040
you know the budget discussion and and

3129
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:26,000
whether we decide on the budget by

3130
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:29,000
November one or not I I guess I'm I'm

3131
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:30,800
asking can we still do both of those

3132
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:33,399
things we could Mo with the one

3133
02:19:33,399 --> 02:19:36,120
discussion which is more time you know

3134
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:38,000
you could always do I mean if you want

3135
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:39,800
to have a discussion about creating a

3136
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:41,160
Comm condition that's still going to be

3137
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:43,800
a bobal law but then that has to go

3138
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:46,359
before the voters by the 60th day so in

3139
02:19:46,359 --> 02:19:47,720
other

3140
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:52,520
words you're you're to put that together

3141
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:55,439
um the composition of such commission

3142
02:19:55,439 --> 02:19:57,520
you know how you're going to do it the

3143
02:19:57,520 --> 02:19:59,399
providing the method tring a number of

3144
02:19:59,399 --> 02:20:00,880
members you know whether they're going

3145
02:20:00,880 --> 02:20:02,399
to be appointed how they're going to be

3146
02:20:02,399 --> 02:20:05,120
appointed etc those are those are things

3147
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:08,080
that you you as the city council if they

3148
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:10,439
decide if you decide to create a

3149
02:20:10,439 --> 02:20:14,200
commission you would have to do do those

3150
02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:17,680
parameters whereas you under the mayor

3151
02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:21,640
system under a mayor of any City

3152
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:25,200
um it's the law spells it out much more

3153
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:27,840
precisely such a commission cons consist

3154
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:30,640
of not less than nine no more than 15

3155
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:32,240
members all of whom shall be residents

3156
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:34,080
of the City original appointments to the

3157
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:35,600
commission shall be made by a mayor

3158
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:38,000
there certificate appointment and the

3159
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,399
mayor shall commit you know appoint the

3160
02:20:41,399 --> 02:20:43,399
chairman Vice chairman

3161
02:20:43,399 --> 02:20:46,120
secretary and that any membership

3162
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:49,080
vacancy of such commission is is filled

3163
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:52,680
by the mayor so you can see whereas

3164
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:55,200
that's dealing with a mayoral Commission

3165
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,520
on a charter commission whereas in the

3166
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:00,200
city

3167
02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:04,760
um the composition may also SP but um

3168
02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:06,319
but you would have to

3169
02:21:06,319 --> 02:21:09,160
really

3170
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,920
um fix the method to determine the

3171
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:15,240
number of the members of such commit so

3172
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:16,520
you have more

3173
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:19,479
latitude by having more latitude you

3174
02:21:19,479 --> 02:21:20,920
going to take a little bit more time how

3175
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:23,640
you want to have that

3176
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:27,359
structure now you

3177
02:21:27,359 --> 02:21:32,830
can you

3178
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:35,760
can so you can you can May adopt the

3179
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:38,479
legislative body you uh May adopt a

3180
02:21:38,479 --> 02:21:40,280
local law for the establishment of the

3181
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:43,200
commission to draft a new or revise City

3182
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:48,000
Charter and uh you can do that you and

3183
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,720
uh in in in the shorter or simplified

3184
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:53,280
but it does still you would still have

3185
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:54,960
to deal with the creation of a

3186
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:57,399
commission you can submit to the

3187
02:21:57,399 --> 02:21:59,920
electors of such City you know shall

3188
02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:01,560
there be a commission to draft a newer

3189
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:04,160
Revis in the charter as a proposed by

3190
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:06,760
local Law whatever so you can put it to

3191
02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:09,520
the voters shall we have a a a charter

3192
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:13,359
commission but that doesn't okay yes or

3193
02:22:13,359 --> 02:22:16,680
no I mean you it's still you would still

3194
02:22:16,680 --> 02:22:18,520
have to at some point deal with the

3195
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:25,230
issue of creating such a commission

3196
02:22:25,240 --> 02:22:26,399
thought

3197
02:22:26,399 --> 02:22:29,160
questions so my my point again was just

3198
02:22:29,160 --> 02:22:30,760
to bring It Forward because you know it

3199
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:33,560
did come and um I will say that I was

3200
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,080
what was presented to us I was not in

3201
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:37,080
agreement with but I don't disagree that

3202
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:39,240
we do need to do something I don't see

3203
02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:42,040
us doing it in time for this Bud uh this

3204
02:22:42,040 --> 02:22:44,560
um election season frankly um but I

3205
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:46,520
don't want the conversation to die

3206
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:48,880
either and if it's going to take a while

3207
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:51,000
as it seems like it is and with been yes

3208
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:52,680
ideal to start this conversation earlier

3209
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:56,080
in the year however we didn't and um so

3210
02:22:56,080 --> 02:22:57,600
how do we move forward to make sure that

3211
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:01,800
we don't but this is just go not go

3212
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:03,920
forward and in terms of the budget I

3213
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:06,280
think Mr mudaron um kind of spoke to

3214
02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:08,439
that the last time is that we just you

3215
02:23:08,439 --> 02:23:10,160
know we just have we weren't this would

3216
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:13,680
not have been um in time for this year's

3217
02:23:13,680 --> 02:23:17,600
budget period but that we have to work

3218
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:20,000
together and have conversations perhaps

3219
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:21,960
with the chair of finance and the mayor

3220
02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:23,720
and the president ahead of time so that

3221
02:23:23,720 --> 02:23:25,120
we can make sure that we're having those

3222
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:26,880
conversations and having agreements as

3223
02:23:26,880 --> 02:23:29,000
we move forward we don't want to happen

3224
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:31,240
what we had let happen last year however

3225
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,600
I think that it's possible that just it

3226
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:35,160
doesn't have to happen we just have to

3227
02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:38,160
be all open to communicating and making

3228
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,120
sure that it doesn't and and everyone

3229
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:41,680
coming to the table

3230
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,960
um with their concerns ideas and you

3231
02:23:44,960 --> 02:23:49,279
know input in the budget so

3232
02:23:49,279 --> 02:23:52,990
absolutely no I say

3233
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:57,429
absolutely those your comments on

3234
02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:02,800
that okay any action on that so uh this

3235
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:07,120
anything motion to go operations

3236
02:24:07,120 --> 02:24:35,429
so second all in favor I

3237
02:24:35,439 --> 02:24:38,300
look

3238
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:50,550
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3239
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:51,650
so

3240
02:24:51,650 --> 02:25:06,379
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