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you think that's a

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we're uh convening health and Recreation

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committee because um we started a

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discussion about um pool fees and rules

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um I had given out um fees and and rules

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from several

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different uh

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city city I I I sent I gave you guys Aly

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Troy Colony gildin Muna and Glenville uh

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to look over um at our last meeting but

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it was just so much information that we

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decided that we were just going to have

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to take it home and read a lot of it and

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then get back together um

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I what you have in front of you is a

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draft what I did was I took the

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information that Mr lefon gave us which

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was on the existing signage at Central

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Park uh regarding the rules uh that are

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posted there there's only a few of them

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posted I sent you guys those those

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photos um so I those are in here but I

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also then looked at the other all those

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other paper those papers and just pulled

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things that I thought were important um

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but obviously this was just my first

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stab um so that we'd have something to

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discuss um so obviously I don't and and

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the other thing I want to state is that

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again um we made it clear that whatever

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we talk about would not be going into

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effect until the summer of 2025 cor

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especially since this pool is was uh

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about to close down for the summer in a

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couple of weeks at least um the other

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thing we talked about was that

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everything should be uniform across all

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of our city pools um so so that's that's

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all I have that I'm giving to you um so

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you can see that these are the hours

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this is so the hours that I'm giving you

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are for Central Park um the capacity is

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for Central Park

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um my thought is that we would not

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charge city of connect residents any fee

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to get into the

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pool do you need do you need no I I I

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thought I made copies for everybody of

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just things that I oh that you had that

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I have but I we can make copies if you

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want well no no I can as we're talking I

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can okay so do you think are we any

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agreement that um residents would be

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free I'm in agreement residents should

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be free at this

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okay Joe I know you're not on this

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committee but just in terms of your

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input yeah I think I would support the

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residence for f okay and then at least

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you know until the next time we look

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over it okay um yeah cuz we I mean we

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have we're obviously way ahead of the

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curve I mean the only thing that I would

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say is that we do want to make sure that

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we have a discussion before the budget

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gets passed because if we have to come

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up with new signage which we will um

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then that needs to get incorporated into

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the city budget request but I don't I

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don't think it's a huge lift I mean it's

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only you know it's not that many pools

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it's not you know those signs I don't

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think are that we' only need like you

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know a few signs it's not like did the

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other um proposals you receed did they

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charge

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residents some

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some family charges Colony no um palisa

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no but guests I don't know if we had

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um Glenville had uh where was Glenville

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pool Mohawk River Park and pool is that

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that is Glenville right not yeah I

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wasn't you know they had a pool out

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there so they they have a fob that they

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that you can go and get a fog right so

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they charge a resent if you show up with

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no fog they charge $2 I'm going I can

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give you this to look at um well colony

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is resident restricted and I I think so

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is um miss yuno that it's only residence

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and tent there is a charge uh family

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pass of

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$125 so there are there are yeah and

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then they down at it also say for

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residents are $5 for adults and $3 go

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down a little bit further on that Maxine

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Maxine that's because those were my

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suggest prices next to as

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here's yeah so so here's a here's a few

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hi um yeah so this was just me abely

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open putting things out there so as far

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as the hours I would like to see them

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12: to 6 not only Saturday and Sunday

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but forever not forever um just said

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12:30 right I wonder why that is that

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it's 12:30 one day and 12:00 the other

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days Saturdays and Sundays um I don't

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know since the poison the Girls Club you

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know take care of the lifeguarding I

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just thought it would be nice to

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be Universal throughout um I guess 6:30

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I mean either or but as long as they're

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Monday through you know the same

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hours I think for I mean I can at least

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speak to Central Park on Sundays I think

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one of the reasons that it closes

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earlier is because music aen starts at

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7:00 so they were concerned about

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parking issues for music a um to have

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the earlier time but we could always go

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12:00 to 6:00 I I don't know I just kind

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of likeed at 6:30 is you know you got

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parents coming home from work um you

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know maybe you want the pool close they

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get the kids up on their way home they

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want to go home and have dinner I I I

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don't know I just thought it should be

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Universal yeah know that makes that

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makes sense it makes signage easier it

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makes rules easier when you have things

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the same so what about um you had

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mentioned before are is this something

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that we're responsible to do or I'm

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hearing out jury's out um the city

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council it sounds like according to um

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president pfield the city council would

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be able to set

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fees um but not necessarily the rules

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but what I explained to her was that I

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thought that she called me the other day

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um that we could at least make

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recommendations about new rules right

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because I fees and she said we couldn't

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set fees I I thought that's what she

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said at our our meeting we we normally

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set fees we do everything okay so the

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fees we can do but the U pool

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rules she said we couldn't do um but I

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said I'm still having the meeting

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because I think we we should have a

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voice and we should have input into

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recommendations that we could at least

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pass pass on to who well right now we

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don't have a Parks director so right now

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um the parks director did report to Mr

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leond um so I would hope that if we have

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a new parks director uh coming on board

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that um it would be still under Mr Leon

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so or just to Mr lefon what we think is

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appropriate yeah that's what I think we

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could make the recommendations

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to the mayor and the

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mayor good I just want to clarify that

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that's a good point let me just write

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down I just think Universal times either

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you know 12

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to I I will say that I've been remiss in

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that I have not looked at what is stated

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or is in place for on Front Street or um

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quack and Bush so Quack and

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Bush so I would have to do that but

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again I think we're way way ahead of the

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curve here I mean in terms of you know

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it's just it's just the idea of making

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sure that there's money in the budget

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for

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signage is the only

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uh do we so uh do we

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know the process of they keep track of

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who comes and who's the city resident

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who's not so if we had to look at it we

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would know they they do um check

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identification at the entrance but again

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that's a whole another Topic in terms of

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you know did we want

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to we we actually touched on this as a

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council at one of our previous meetings

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recently where we talked about um some

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sort of ID and one of the suggestions

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that I think the mayor made was that um

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the school district does issue IDs to

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its students so um you know we could use

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we to talk with them think Mr Carle said

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they were collected at the end of the

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year the school IDs so we'd have to talk

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with the school district and see if

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there's a way to piggy back on some sort

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of ID that way for the kids but I

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actually like the idea of a recreational

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pass of some sort um the issue would be

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that people would well what we would do

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I'm just brainstorming here but what we

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would do is we'd set up tables outside

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the pools um before the pools were going

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to be open and we would publicize that

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you know you want to come and get your

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ID we could also like for example piggy

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back with um the summer lunch program or

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something like that where we're making

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sure that the sheriff's fingerprinting

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which is all over this summer the unity

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cups things like that Summer's already

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started but yeah so we'd have so it

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would be an expense I'm sure it would be

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um but again I think um the mayor

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mentioned that that last I think it was

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a committee meeting um that he didn't

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see it being a huge expense to um like

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to see like what's at your doctor's

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office where you give them your name and

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your picture pops up so that you know

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who's going to lose their lanyard right

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their P the right iPads or something

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that right that they that they check do

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do they

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yeah well that's something to consider

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but um I I just looked at Front Street

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briefly and it's it's 12 to 600 closed

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every day closed on

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Sunday so well we wouldn't want to do

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that with

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the other two the other two um pools are

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closed on Sunday oh they are qu and Bush

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also yeah pardon me Quack and bushes y

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so the only one um open on on the

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weekends is Central Park on Sunday y

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I've gotten an email

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from individuals saying they didn't want

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the you know the neighborhood pool

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should be open you know it's hard for

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them to get to whever that's why I know

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they were both

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closed I don't know why they would be

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closed on Sunday they to

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you Staffing maybe I don't know well

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yeah I mean so that would be another

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budgetary piece is that if we decided

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that we wanted all three pools open on

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Sundays uh as well then we would have to

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pay for additional Staffing through the

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boys and girls club for

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that so do are you ready like in other

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words in terms of that would we like to

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see all all the I would like to see

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neighborhood

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126 um Monday through Sunday y all

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neighborhood

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pools as well as the city

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for

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okay all right your next um as far as

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about lap swim Monday through Friday 8

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to 9: of course I'd also like a senior

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swim and as well where where seniors can

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just go in the LA is for the lap Lanes

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um with eventually some type of water

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arobics but um and I'm wondering why

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it's 8 to9 I I guess I would like to see

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it maybe 10:30 to 12 or or 11 to 12 I

295
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think we have to ask that question right

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um mov it closer to the actual starting

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time it might be maybe they were trying

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to be able to have people go to work not

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seniors but I mean regular adults I mean

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other adults oh the right the the adult

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lap swim yes but I I to throw a senior

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in there like the adult lap you would

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kind of think like when when we could go

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to the high school it was like 6:00 a.m.

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before school opened I know um so that's

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that's you know probably the earliest

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time you know but I'm I'm thinking the

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you know uh I would like a

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senior swim um maybe 1030 they don't

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have to be in a lap they could do the

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aerobics or something like that

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so maybe 10 10:30 to 11:30 let's say

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right before the before the uh I think

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that's kind of important um lot of

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seniors been asking for it um there used

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to be the the the swim club at the

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Romana that was huge and then when that

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closed down um everybody went to the

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high school I went there for years and

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in the high school you know you can't go

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there any longer I Dr Cotto said you

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it's open again but I think so too but I

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I haven't gotten anything it's really I

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did it through the why at one point the

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YMCA had taken over that's how if you

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were a YMCA member you could go to the

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span the high school pool and they did

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do water robics and that thing I like it

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was not um the environment wasn't great

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in the locker rooms um so I sto I

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stopped doing that um but but so that's

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something I I think that's very

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important since it's a city pool you may

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as well get every age group to use it I

335
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think that's a great idea um so so I

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actually probably should look at I

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should try to get the capacity for

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quacken Bush and Front Street just so we

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have everything on one and and if it

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needs to be yeah 12:30 to 6:30 I guess

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but like you say music Haven as well it

342
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wouldn't be able to be till 6:30 on

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Sundays in Central Park so I like the

344
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idea of 126 um I don't think it matters

345
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and again they're home earlier yeah I

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think that's fine adults in the house

347
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but so if we're adding um I did not put

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you'll see like on some of those other

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forms that I gave you out that there is

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sometimes a discount for

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seniors um well seniors would be free

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yep in in Nuna seniors well yeah they'd

353
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be free if they were residents

354
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right okay so we could stick with the

355
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reason I said adults um if you look down

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at my fees here where I say guests of

357
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city of connecting residents which was

358
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one of the rules that I saw so you know

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we I think we should limit guests um of

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residents and I was saying no more than

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three so then therefore a guest of a

362
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resident would be $10 for an adult or $6

363
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for a children these are just my great

364
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and I just had a suggestion of five and

365
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three I saw somebody else had that like

366
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it's it's hard to to put an amount of

367
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guests on there because

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then you know there's the three of us

369
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there with our three kids just say so

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that's 12 people and then we each have

371
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three guests

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so 21

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people you know and there's lines over

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there so that's why I was limiting it

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are you suggesting limiting it less than

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three I am per day yeah and I thought

377
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the cost and I'll tell you my reasoning

378
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for the cost because um if I don't live

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in SC but I come and watch my

380
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grandchildren um every day and those

381
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three are free but I have to pay $10 a

382
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day you know that's $50 a week that I

383
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have to pay to watch my grandchildren in

384
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the pool so I that's why I and and I as

385
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a revenue Source I mean we need to pay

386
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for that's why I know chose the 10 was

387
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just because the cost of of the pool and

388
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trying to bring in some Revenue if we're

389
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going to be free and then I thought that

390
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the children could be $3 versus five

391
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again you know I'm a grandmother I pick

392
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up my other two grandchildren from colon

393
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you know so now I'm 10 you know how

394
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about a compromise of like five and

395
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eight I don't know $8 for I mean again

396
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we we the fees would have to come in

397
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front of the council oh yeah definitely

398
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we could yeah so so we have so we can

399
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give a few different recommendations to

400
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council we could say 10 and six we could

401
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say five and three and three go seven

402
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and four or seven and and and so for

403
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guests they must be guests compan by

404
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connected res yes that will cut down on

405
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the lines I mean again we did want to

406
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have some data given to us we asked for

407
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some data we didn't know that right 1 2

408
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3 we wanted zip codes actually we did

409
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ask for that yeah um so I'll have to

410
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follow up with Paul not couldn't strict

411
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r

412
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yeah we wanted to get data that they've

413
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already collected um and the in terms of

414
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um how many people they have been seeing

415
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what the lines have been like but um in

416
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the zip code data okay cuz they have

417
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been taking that in we did ask for that

418
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um you know 09 we would worry about 03

419
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and 06 but we could tell by the street

420
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address whether they were resents or not

421
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right right they were supposed to have

422
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that to

423
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well we'll have to remind St upon so 10

424
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and six 5 and three other numbers to

425
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throw

426
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[Music]

427
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out something in the middle it's go yeah

428
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seven and seven and four

429
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:23,279
yeah Joe what's your feeling on those

430
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,840
anything again these are for guests but

431
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:34,559
still right it as dorine said it could

432
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be a grandparent bringing out of town

433
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kids 7 and

434
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four okay so if we do the 5 and three

435
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the 10 and six and the 7 and four we'll

436
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make that presentation too

437
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:51,640
um the rest of like three guests

438
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,240
per I think

439
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:59,080
that's okay it seems reasonable to me to

440
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,679
not go more than three I don't even know

441
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,640
three people to bring but I'm

442
00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:05,960
just I'm just you know bring a bus for

443
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,080
and the whole thing is if there's a

444
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,600
parent you know bringing the neighbor

445
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,360
kids you know they're all residents

446
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,640
anyway so these would just be all

447
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:17,640
non-residents all right okay so I'm I'm

448
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,320
okay with three I don't know if I want

449
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:24,240
three Joe you okay with three yeah okay

450
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:28,360
so and before we get to your pool rules

451
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:31,200
so last um Wednesday St caterie they've

452
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been walking over for years summer camp

453
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,080
mhm and so um Ella was all excited was

454
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,600
her last day of summer camp normally

455
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,080
their field trips are on Friday I'm

456
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,519
sitting at home and I'm icing and I'm

457
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,080
thinking how they can I get in the pool

458
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:47,840
nobody's got an IDE nobody has anything

459
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,240
so I drove over and um they had just

460
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,840
gotten there the two different groups

461
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,120
the older group of and the young group

462
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,080
was over in the playground so I talked

463
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:59,080
to Miss Stein horse and she said well

464
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,720
for years they' go to pool they'd walk

465
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over but the uh couple of the graduates

466
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,240
were always lifeguards there so they

467
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would always let them in mhm so I said

468
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and there were probably maybe 40

469
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students from 4 years old up to 11 the

470
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oldest was 11 so I I I did text Shane

471
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and he texted Julie and so Julie Julie

472
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said not to worry you know just have

473
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them talk to me on the way in but moving

474
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:36,760
forward yeah um so and now you've got I

475
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I think um the older group had three

476
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chaperons with them and the younger

477
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group had you know whole bunch of

478
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grandparents because they were

479
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younger and um you know a few teachers

480
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who all had

481
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IDs

482
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but and you know Miss steinhart said to

483
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me you know 95% of these kids are

484
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connected I said that I understand as

485
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,240
well so that was just a little well no I

486
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,640
think that's a really good point and I

487
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,000
hadn't thought of it and I haven't seen

488
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,640
it on any of the other pool pools from

489
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,519
the other towns have bust $30 oh yeah

490
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,240
there is that there is that but you know

491
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:18,880
so that's an interesting we could have

492
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,799
another category of groups like camps I

493
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,159
mean it's going to be summertime so we

494
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:26,760
we figure out the heading um but there

495
00:29:23,159 --> 00:29:29,960
could be a group fee um that would

496
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,880
include up to X number of chaperon for

497
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,559
example I mean we maybe we should think

498
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,240
about that but how would we do

499
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:40,559
it we either have to charge a group of

500
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,640
fee right even though some of them might

501
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,159
be residents or most of them might be

502
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,480
residents right but it could also be a

503
00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:48,880
different time of the day it could be

504
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,640
like 10:00 it could be well we just said

505
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,480
10:30 to whatever we just said for the

506
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,159
um seniors but we could

507
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,480
say well she she did mention she knows

508
00:29:56,159 --> 00:30:00,279
that you know it's busier

509
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,919
earlier in the summer so they wanted to

510
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:06,159
wait till almost the last week to make

511
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:07,720
it easier on us and you know not and but

512
00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:11,640
just bring the younger ones into the

513
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:13,080
splash pad to make it easier on us but

514
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,919
you know parents were like well I want

515
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,559
my kids to go on a pool so you know what

516
00:30:14,919 --> 00:30:18,760
I mean so she did make it easy you know

517
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:21,200
want to make it easier on on how you

518
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,720
know controlling everything but it could

519
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,880
also be you know and everyone knows

520
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,720
their students at their camp and they

521
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:31,679
could always give a list of you know 30

522
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:35,600
resident students 10 non-resident

523
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:37,519
students that are paying $3 to enter or

524
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,960
we could have a flat fee for a group

525
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,720
because the interesting thing is and the

526
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,559
reason I like this though is think about

527
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,960
it like for example the YMCA does their

528
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:49,760
summer camp at Jerry barell um I'm just

529
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,320
saying it's not just the you're going to

530
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,000
have the like St cats or you know other

531
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,159
places like that just summer camps yeah

532
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,159
just summer camps in general but I mean

533
00:30:56,159 --> 00:31:00,399
I mean obviously like The JCC they have

534
00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:02,279
cool so their camps are all taken care

535
00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:04,080
of but there might be other

536
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:05,799
organizations out there that run there

537
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360
might be Bible camps for example

538
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:09,600
different at different

539
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,880
churches it might be a good Revenue

540
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Source in other words and even I mean I

541
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,760
could see that it would be it could be

542
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,880
something where it was like every I

543
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:22,360
think about the YMCA Jerry Burell like

544
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,200
they might very well want to go every

545
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,279
week have um a time that they take the

546
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,399
kids swimming they have a splash pack um

547
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:33,799
you know I'm just thinking like the post

548
00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:37,159
like events if somebody wanted to rent

549
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:40,399
it with a certain cost you got the and

550
00:31:37,159 --> 00:31:42,960
then you got the oh my goodness I know

551
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:44,679
certain that would be like after hours

552
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200
would have to be after hours but then

553
00:31:44,679 --> 00:31:49,039
we'd have to get the lifeguards and that

554
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:53,080
kind of thing good good thinking the

555
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:54,440
park is huge asset to this community I'm

556
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,519
going to put that down as something to

557
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,240
think about future oriented but I mean

558
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,960
the whole group thing I haven't given it

559
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,760
any thought so I think we a group of

560
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,440
seniors rham seniors want to come yeah

561
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,799
it's a great idea we I think we'd have

562
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,399
to probably uh do some digging around

563
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,559
and some thinking rather than trying to

564
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:14,880
figure that out right now but I that

565
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:17,720
came off in in Shan you know again Julie

566
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:22,440
helped out and everybody walked away

567
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:24,080
happy so okay actually Shane would be

568
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,120
somebody we probably should have come to

569
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:29,399
this come to a meeting or I don't know

570
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,840
the other jul she's the program director

571
00:32:29,399 --> 00:32:36,960
yeah she runs the the

572
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,960
pool all the pool yeah supervises the

573
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,519
lifeguards

574
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,799
okay this a good reason why we're

575
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,760
meeting so early in the year before

576
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:53,200
summer of

577
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:55,519
2025 I think that's a really looking at

578
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,440
I think that's a really good um so after

579
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,679
our rentals groups and inviting Julie to

580
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,880
another meeting is something we should

581
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:05,519
do at a at a future meeting so now can

582
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,840
we turn our attention to the rules for a

583
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:11,639
moment y yep we're it's only 5:00 so we

584
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,760
still have some time

585
00:33:11,639 --> 00:33:15,880
here so do you want to look at these

586
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,760
before we talk about them since I just

587
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,799
gave this out to you

588
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:24,120
but um I I like everything and then

589
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:26,320
under driver's license we would also

590
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,159
include New York state non-d driver's

591
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,600
license

592
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:32,919
noning Li yeah because people who don't

593
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:37,519
drive go to motor vehicle and get a a

594
00:33:32,919 --> 00:33:39,960
passport or green card as

595
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,240
well okay I didn't even think of that

596
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240
that's

597
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:49,639
great okay I mean I think the whole fog

598
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,080
thing is too much for us right now I I

599
00:33:49,639 --> 00:33:54,279
think so too I I think I you know I I

600
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:59,000
don't know anything about I don't know

601
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:59,799
much about uh software programs but um I

602
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,240
do

603
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:08,200
know a mom trying to take care of six F

604
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:13,839
six FS or six I or you know um just give

605
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:16,839
a name boom yeah and photo comes up um I

606
00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:21,079
agree but again I don't know the cost

607
00:34:16,839 --> 00:34:23,760
involved in that versus a so you know

608
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,760
when I think of

609
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:31,000
the um

610
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000
the sheriff's department when they do

611
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,599
the

612
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,040
um when they fingerprint you or whatever

613
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:38,440
and they take your picture and that's

614
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,960
there it's a program that they have you

615
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,679
know I don't know but we have the

616
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,679
capability of doing something like that

617
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,800
not as far as the fingerprints but

618
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:48,800
working that programing yeah well I mean

619
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,440
again that's something like they did do

620
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,480
something they did something um over the

621
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,520
weekend at the pool I can't remember

622
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000
what it was now but I mean inviting the

623
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,800
sheriff's department to come to the pool

624
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,800
oh yes they been yeah yeah is a good

625
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,560
thing good thing we're just finishing up

626
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,359
a prior meeting but you're welcome to

627
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,880
you're welcome to stay totally welcome

628
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:10,440
to stay

629
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,760
um okay so everything else in that first

630
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,760
statement does that sound I kind of I

631
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,560
mean we have to check with the school

632
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,880
district about the IDS again but

633
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:24,040
that lifeguards I was fine with

634
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:28,000
that yep again I still have the concern

635
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,839
which I mentioned at our last meeting

636
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000
you'll see okay look at the next one

637
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:34,640
this is actually this is actually on the

638
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,200
current rules two or more adults 18

639
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,880
years or older must be present at the

640
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,960
pool when the pool is in use with at

641
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,720
least one adult on the pool deck the

642
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,760
question is are those city employees or

643
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:50,000
did that just mean no I thought it was

644
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,680
the child right except that I know I I

645
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,800
didn't quite I think that has to get

646
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,640
clarified right um what that is on our

647
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,359
think it can be two two or more adults

648
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,280
must be present at the pool with at

649
00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:02,680
least one adult on the pool deck meaning

650
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920
that one of them might be inside the

651
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,599
water with their

652
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,400
kid um I didn't quite understand that by

653
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:11,440
the way I put anything that was already

654
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,079
existing on the on the signs at Central

655
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Park I put in here just so that we can

656
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,000
talk about it um I didn't really

657
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,520
understand that one no I didn't either

658
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,880
so okay this R was on the second sign

659
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:26,200
that one is on the C sign so I would

660
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,599
assume they're not employees it's a

661
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,440
format for the public but so that raises

662
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,960
a question though I I raised this last

663
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,079
time which is that we're basically

664
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960
putting a lot onto these lifeguards who

665
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,480
are

666
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,280
teenagers when you think about the fact

667
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,119
that we are going to be asking them to

668
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,920
enforce rules

669
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:47,119
like no smoking I'm just making that you

670
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,520
know but I'm just saying I mean again

671
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,760
that's a question for Julie from the

672
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,359
Boys and Girls Club but it is it is

673
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,480
asking a lot from teenage

674
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:58,480
employees um they are going to have to

675
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:02,040
be the people enforcing these unless we

676
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,520
have an adult that is a city

677
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,000
employee uh at the there there are two

678
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:11,359
policemen there every day I know police

679
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:16,520
officers so I guess my fear is unfounded

680
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:16,520
cu the left guards can basically the

681
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,359
police it's a topic that I think needs

682
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,359
some more discussion I I think I think

683
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:26,160
things need to be monitored as far as

684
00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:28,839
the restrooms the changing

685
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,319
areas um

686
00:37:28,839 --> 00:37:33,119
I think our teenage employees actually

687
00:37:31,319 --> 00:37:34,400
do do that they have to go in I mean

688
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,960
they have to go in and make sure that

689
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,319
the toilet paper and all that kind of

690
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,800
stuff is again that's something we can

691
00:37:38,319 --> 00:37:44,560
find from Julie what their what their

692
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,040
what their duties are responsibilities

693
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,440
okay so we're all good with number two

694
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:52,839
lifeguards so the authorities have

695
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,640
right number three we have questions we

696
00:37:52,839 --> 00:37:57,880
need clarification on number three okay

697
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,760
now

698
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,040
this one seems to make sense to me

699
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,480
children under if they're not considered

700
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,839
an adult I think they have to be

701
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,160
accompanied by an adult but and then

702
00:38:06,839 --> 00:38:10,920
it's confusing because that 16-year-old

703
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,720
who's that 18-year-old and the one above

704
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,160
it well see that's where um again I had

705
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:20,280
to look looking at the other pools in

706
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:23,359
the area in our region um that's why I

707
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:26,160
picked that I know great so should it

708
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:29,760
all be 16 or should it be

709
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:34,079
18 if that 18 even applies to people

710
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:37,079
swimming not I don't know I I got to

711
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:39,480
until I know more the 18 thing that that

712
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:41,520
I mean he's got two parents home or two

713
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,319
adults during the day to go with a

714
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,079
14-year-old not a lot of so on number

715
00:38:44,319 --> 00:38:48,839
three what do you think that year should

716
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:52,440
be or should it I think we can just need

717
00:38:48,839 --> 00:38:55,119
clarification on it I mean maybe maybe

718
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,680
that refers to the LIF guards there

719
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:59,839
there could be one 16-year-old but one

720
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,160
18-year-old oh that's true that's true

721
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:03,359
that's why I wasn't sure if they were

722
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,839
city employees okay actually I'm going

723
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:09,839
to pull up the photos that uh Paul sent

724
00:39:06,839 --> 00:39:09,839
us

725
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:18,599
um oops that's how you spell his name um

726
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Paul Paul I think or someone did have a

727
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:25,040
a concern um well last time we spoke

728
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,160
about it about a 16-year-old you know

729
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,480
with a parent even 14y olds right you

730
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,040
know who's going to want to hang out

731
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:37,000
with their Guardian parent um an adult

732
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,599
Grandma at 14 years old so did you

733
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,400
notice anything El I mean that's the

734
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,560
sign that's there now did you notice

735
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:49,160
anything else as far as an

736
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:49,160
age I did not need it let me see

737
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,880
here this is going to sound pretty funny

738
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680
but I well that I'll get to I'll get to

739
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,720
it in a second when we get to that next

740
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,040
one but um I'm looking at the existing

741
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,560
sign the existing sign that one's on the

742
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,200
existing sign two or more adults 18

743
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,400
years or older must be present present

744
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,640
at the pool when the pool is in use with

745
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,720
at least one adult on the pool deck

746
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,800
children less than 16 years these are

747
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:19,359
all you know let's just check those off

748
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,640
so that one the next one the children

749
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:25,119
less than

750
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:29,319
16 well I I I think we you even talked

751
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:29,319
about you know you had a 16

752
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:35,720
should be able to

753
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:37,520
attend the pool on their

754
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:40,319
own

755
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,920
um I I forget we we kind of passed that

756
00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:46,280
around last time as far as an age limit

757
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:50,119
maybe 14year

758
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,280
old I don't see I look through a lot of

759
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:54,520
the cool information you said I didn't

760
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,960
find

761
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:00,440
anything Aly said

762
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,119
children under the age of 13 must be

763
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,280
accompanied by

764
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:06,960
an I don't have Aly for some reason

765
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,560
didn't say Albany it just said it looks

766
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:13,319
like this I knew it was ALB cuz I

767
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,839
printed it off there so I I mean I think

768
00:41:13,319 --> 00:41:18,400
we're going to redo this sign bring it

769
00:41:14,839 --> 00:41:21,640
down to at least 13 and 14 person for

770
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,839
children less than yeah 13 and 14 I'm

771
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,640
okay with 13 or 14 which one do you like

772
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:28,359
better again we're just making

773
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,000
recommendations 1 okay Joe you okay with

774
00:41:28,359 --> 00:41:31,000
that

775
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:38,880
sure now the next one is wicked

776
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,839
important as far as I'm concerned the

777
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,480
swim

778
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:45,119
diapers they need and I know they're

779
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,400
expensive I know so but we could figure

780
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,000
that out also because maybe we make sure

781
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,800
that there's some swim diapers on hand I

782
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:57,720
don't know I'm just saying if we had

783
00:41:52,800 --> 00:42:00,079
to but I mean we cannot let people with

784
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:02,920
regular diapers into the pool I

785
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,560
mean so if they're not trained I mean

786
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:11,760
the the risk of having and I think there

787
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:14,400
are um uh racks that are you know

788
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,920
appropriate um they the

789
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,640
RS I think

790
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,079
um they this one this I thought was

791
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,160
confusing but Albany said children under

792
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,720
the age of three or not fully toilet

793
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,720
drained must be wearing a swim diaper

794
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:31,960
with the swimsuit or rubber pants right

795
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:33,640
over the top of the swim diaper then it

796
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,559
said regular diapers are not designed

797
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:40,280
for use in water which I definitely new

798
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:43,920
um I think that's very

799
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:47,040
important I I I don't like Colony also

800
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,960
requires the swim diapers Troy by the

801
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,520
way their pools basically were closed so

802
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,720
that's why there's so little information

803
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:57,880
from Troy having a lot of

804
00:42:52,720 --> 00:43:00,839
issues getting them to reopen see

805
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:04,200
and this is uh

806
00:43:00,839 --> 00:43:05,640
gildin they children in the age of five

807
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,200
they have to have life jackets by the

808
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,160
way I did not I don't think I put that

809
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,319
in there um I didn't no but I do see a

810
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:16,200
lot of kids with the with the swimming

811
00:43:13,319 --> 00:43:18,640
what that Buckle in the back this this

812
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,319
has appropriate swim attire where's the

813
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,440
thing

814
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:24,480
about they didn't even put anything in

815
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,599
there about diapers I mean they they do

816
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,800
make a three-piece swimming diaper PES

817
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:31,520
for seven 96 for three pieces which are

818
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,280
I I knew my my granddaughter had them

819
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,119
they're more like just a wrap or

820
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,520
something so um maybe swimming swimming

821
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:41,359
diaper pants or swimming diapers yeah

822
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,079
which are a lot more

823
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:47,000
inexpensive than these I mean again we

824
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:48,880
could also see if there'd be something

825
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,720
like a skincity shares kind of thing or

826
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,280
something where somebody might do a S

827
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:55,079
diaper dry that we would have on hand at

828
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,640
the pool so that if there really was

829
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,480
somebody that couldn't afford the swim

830
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:03,200
diaper I know but I think it needs to

831
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:05,760
stay in there okay all right

832
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,079
um and my next one is send are no

833
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,480
smoking chewing oh yeah what about the

834
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,200
the appropriate swimwear made sense to

835
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,760
me too yes you know okay so now the no

836
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,480
diving shallow water that's on our signs

837
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,800
now and that absolutely makes sense I

838
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,079
mean obviously you don't want that for

839
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,440
you know you don't want somebody to hurt

840
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:26,640
themselves then this one I actually

841
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,400
changed the language because but no

842
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:32,119
running horse play running on the pool

843
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,640
deck or foul language is allowed okay no

844
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:35,800
toys flotation devices and so in other

845
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520
words they're talking about we're

846
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,960
talking about floats there which would

847
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,839
obviously take up a lot of room masks

848
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,079
fins or and it hies the child a safety

849
00:44:42,839 --> 00:44:46,280
feature

850
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:50,640
right oh this is the one that I thought

851
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:53,040
was funny so on our sign right

852
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,960
now you're going to laugh because I do

853
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,800
have my graduate degree but I did not

854
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,040
know what this word was I had to look it

855
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
up

856
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:04,880
expectorating you guys know what

857
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:06,680
expectorating is Hawkers yeah yeah

858
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,400
that's what it says on our sign at the

859
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,839
pool I didn't actually know what that

860
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,880
was so I was just questioning whether

861
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:15,079
somebody in fourth grade might know what

862
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:17,760
that was but um maybe they do so I

863
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:20,040
changed it to spitting good um but it's

864
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,520
no urinating discharge of fecal matter

865
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,200
spitting or nose blowing in the pool

866
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,559
that's basically on almost every other

867
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,599
pool in the region right no smoking I

868
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:31,599
added chewing tobacco I mean I added

869
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:34,599
vaping oh good

870
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,760
one that way there and that means

871
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:39,520
whether it's uh marijuana or tobacco

872
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,480
well I said no alcohol well I said or

873
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,960
use of illegal drugs but you do know Al

874
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:48,240
it's a Federate well no but right now we

875
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,520
already have no smoking at all in any of

876
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:55,280
our Parks it

877
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:58,200
doesn't it's not uh necessarily enforced

878
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,200
but um that that's already a rule in the

879
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,599
park so I feel like it's fine to say

880
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,800
this no glass containers

881
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:08,520
obviously the no coolers I had a little

882
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,520
bit of an issue

883
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,640
with I mean if you wanted to like come

884
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,359
and have a picnic or you know be with

885
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,200
your family for your children I think

886
00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:19,720
the thing is that they must have to go

887
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,440
outside the pool area in other words

888
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,599
there's stuff outside the cool area

889
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,839
they'd be able to get back in but I I

890
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,800
think it's tough I I mean I guess we'd

891
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:30,359
have to have the cooler so inspected on

892
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,440
their way in

893
00:46:30,359 --> 00:46:35,480
yeah so should we take out no coolers or

894
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,160
and we could add a line of all coolers

895
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,400
we have to think about that yes okay

896
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,319
well let's think about it because I I'm

897
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,040
always packing

898
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:48,000
lunches always did for my girls yeah no

899
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:51,040
I mean it it it seems natural to me and

900
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,720
I have I have a big problem with that um

901
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,200
ice cream truck being out there every

902
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:57,800
day every day you know how do you say

903
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,599
but you have to say know your children

904
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,440
you got three kids you got one kid I

905
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:03,839
mean every day that that ice cream truck

906
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,720
is parked right in front so I don't know

907
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,680
what it's permit inails it don't on city

908
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,960
streets but I don't think it's

909
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,599
appropriate you know I think they do

910
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Stein Mets Park pretty pretty much also

911
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:19,480
I think the a lot of course you know

912
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,720
because they you know yeah um I do know

913
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:26,119
my daughter told me that in Cara they do

914
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:27,559
have affordable options for dollar menu

915
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:30,440
options

916
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:32,319
um on the truck including water that you

917
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,280
know but again if you can't bring a

918
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:36,000
cooler you can't you know like so there

919
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,119
water fountains your kids can drink out

920
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,559
but I want to make it you know

921
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:43,400
affordable for all everyone bringing

922
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,640
yeah children there okay so those are

923
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,520
issues for future right the ice cream

924
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,720
truck water I have to check there is a

925
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:54,079
water P there are water ponds um but

926
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:57,520
that's a good idea too low

927
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:59,079
cost we need jeie they may actually I

928
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,280
mean that could be a way that the boys

929
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,559
and girls club could leave I don't even

930
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,440
want to go there in terms of health

931
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,960
department etc etc but they might be

932
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,839
able to do some sort of treats that they

933
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,839
sell they might want to

934
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:17,319
sell it's hard like the um those things

935
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:20,960
we have at music Haven those Welches

936
00:48:17,319 --> 00:48:24,200
food snacks and can go to the concession

937
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,160
stand and stuff yeah we don't yeah we

938
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,079
don't have a concession right things to

939
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,520
think about I saw someone even rents

940
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:34,880
Cabanas which is uh I have no umbrellas

941
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:38,079
or canopies or Cabanas allowed okay we

942
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,640
need to add that yes um I I see people

943
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:44,160
marking your territory and those tent

944
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Cabanas are pretty big and um they're a

945
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,079
good source of

946
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,599
shade um because there's no shade

947
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:54,599
there um you know other than in in by

948
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:57,440
the changing area but we don't allow

949
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:59,520
them now right no but they they are

950
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,520
okay but that's a good point though if

951
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,559
you had a little kid you might want to

952
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,640
have an umbrella so that you have the

953
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:07,359
and over here is only astr Turf you know

954
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:12,559
that they can stick it in so we going

955
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:12,559
have to talk about that one I would say

956
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,160
right well we got to figure we got to

957
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,880
figure that

958
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,040
out um so no glass contain so the

959
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,799
coolers one we're going to question I I

960
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,960
think so no knives or firearms that

961
00:49:23,799 --> 00:49:29,559
makes sense right no animals allow them

962
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,960
area also makes sense except service do

963
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,960
service

964
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,440
animus okay and then all trash must be

965
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,640
disposed of properly yeah I think it did

966
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,280
a great job yeah thank you for doing

967
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,119
that then these waiting times that is

968
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,359
actually on the current

969
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,359
signage so it must be from

970
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:57,440
um late after last sight sound of storm

971
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,240
you'd also I just want to say we have a

972
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:07,359
sign that says what's the method of

973
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:09,440
summoning on premise CPR STA and what's

974
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:12,160
the phone number for emergency and it

975
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:15,839
doesn't happen okay just has a blank

976
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,839
line so

977
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,359
tfds I'll check that and I also have to

978
00:50:23,319 --> 00:50:29,400
get them to add

979
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:31,760
those right yep and he might be

980
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,799
coming

981
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:39,319
uh oh there's oh there's a 911 there's a

982
00:50:34,799 --> 00:50:41,720
call 911 saving a life thing sign

983
00:50:39,319 --> 00:50:44,799
yeah okay I don't I'm trying to figure

984
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:48,319
out where I saw that during we it must

985
00:50:44,799 --> 00:50:48,319
be on the it's on the pool

986
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,559
rules yeah I mean those things make

987
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,359
sense right so if there's thunder and

988
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,040
lightning they're going to make

989
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:56,799
everybody leave so what they're saying

990
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,240
is there has to be a 30 minute wa have

991
00:50:56,799 --> 00:51:00,720
to leave the fence they have to leave

992
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,880
the water I don't know if they have to

993
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:06,359
leave the fence for some

994
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:11,640
reason how do I access

995
00:51:06,359 --> 00:51:14,000
the um the city hall uh City uh of um

996
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,559
homepage you mean how do you

997
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,400
watch Sam Samantha said that I's right

998
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:23,280
here oh I didn't see

999
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:26,760
sorry um can I get on there for some

1000
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,599
reason I I saw them all walking out I

1001
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,119
think that they they might have to I

1002
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:34,599
don't know yeah

1003
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:36,319
we where do they go okay I think we're

1004
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:38,680
going to have to

1005
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:40,559
stop for now what else do you guys do

1006
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,799
you have anything else before we

1007
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,799
stop I

1008
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:01,520
guess anything before we oh call the so

1009
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:04,760
so when we when we do talk about trips

1010
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:07,240
or whatever um what's the ratio of adult

1011
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,960
and I guess it's even in the pool now

1012
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:11,720
what's

1013
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,240
the

1014
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:17,119
child I think this is this two or more

1015
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:20,160
adults thing must be presol that's one

1016
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,000
of the already children cannot have them

1017
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,240
under the AG

1018
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,119
of we don't have any rules about that

1019
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,960
right now

1020
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,960
I think that would

1021
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,880
be

1022
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:38,599
especially summer camp busing or even

1023
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,359
you know can I with neighborhood kids we

1024
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:42,559
can find that out because it's the same

1025
00:52:40,359 --> 00:52:44,720
like at my side when we have when they

1026
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:46,760
have field trips um there's a certain

1027
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:49,359
number of adults that have to be present

1028
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,640
in field trips right so that's a good

1029
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:54,520
ratio of adults to children for field

1030
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:57,520
trips field trips are even just

1031
00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:01,160
normal you know I'm calling

1032
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,920
under the but even on a regular Walkin

1033
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:08,440
basis all a sudden you know I'm going to

1034
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:11,559
I got you can only have got

1035
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,559
five the

1036
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,160
city responsible we should

1037
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:25,520
probably okay all right I'm going to try

1038
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:28,359
to well actually did you you took notes

1039
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,680
or um some notes um some of your

1040
00:53:28,359 --> 00:53:33,839
questions and the things that you did

1041
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,680
watch I didn't get the last part the

1042
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:38,400
notes okay so I will try to um write up

1043
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,880
some of this too and we'll just you and

1044
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,200
I can communicate and we'll get it back

1045
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,000
out to everybody we'll have to have

1046
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:48,000
another meeting okay thank

1047
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,000
you I mean those were some of my

1048
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000
highlighted

1049
00:53:52,839 --> 00:53:58,440
have great okay thank you

1050
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:06,079
was I had to set my alarm on my phone

1051
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:15,720
actually may I have a motion

1052
00:54:10,359 --> 00:54:17,400
to a second in favor I okay thank you

1053
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:22,319
thank

1054
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:24,400
you we are adjourned um good uh it looks

1055
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:28,359
like

1056
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,359
standing standing

1057
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:33,480
sorry can't come to church

1058
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:59,760
[Music]

1059
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,760
oh

1060
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:20,969
[Music]

1061
00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:38,500
[Music]

1062
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:56,239
yes I didn't

1063
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:56,239
[Music]

1064
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:46,489
[Music]

1065
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,749
[Music]

1066
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:16,959
[Music]

1067
00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:52,309
[Music]

1068
00:57:55,039 --> 00:58:22,420
she

1069
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:22,420
[Music]

1070
00:58:22,720 --> 00:59:00,269
this

1071
00:58:23,750 --> 00:59:00,269
[Music]

1072
00:59:00,359 --> 00:59:10,920
all

1073
00:59:02,830 --> 00:59:10,920
[Music]

1074
00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:56,289
[Music]

1075
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,490
w

1076
01:00:00,060 --> 01:00:04,590
[Music]

1077
01:00:01,490 --> 01:00:04,590
[Applause]

1078
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,570
[Music]

1079
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:28,190
[Music]

1080
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:31,789
I

1081
01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:31,789
[Music]

1082
01:00:35,330 --> 01:01:06,960
[Music]

1083
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,960
in

1084
01:01:09,170 --> 01:01:38,240
[Music]

1085
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,240
it's

1086
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:57,669
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oh okay

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great I'd like to call the orders conc

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the city council committee meeting for

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Monday August 19th

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2024 um where before we U going to our

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committees we do have two presentations

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uh first of all we do have a really full

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room I'd like ask everyone to please

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silence your cell phon to make sure that

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they're off and additionally this

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meeting is for the council only so we

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are we do not take

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comments uh from the public um and uh no

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applause no Amen Corner none of that so

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first we're going to have our two

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presentations and we'll start with um

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Miss Patrick yes um the SKC Foundation

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um has Representatives here of the on

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SKC Community change Council um which

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they've started

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um and we have some folks from the

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community change Council that are going

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to be making a presentation I know is

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here

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um speaking

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and speaking and name song speaking and

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we have other members of the council

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present

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um speakers are if you're going to be

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speaking come over here speak we need we

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need folks to come up here there's a

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microphone Who start

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Christine and I think you know Christine

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the microphone is for the people people

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better that's

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how sure take thank you I am Christine

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Moore and I am a member of the uh

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Community change Council here uh with

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the skincity foundation uh and tonight

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we are going to present on one skty as

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well as our particular initiative which

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is the housing ones concy together

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initiative so who is the commity change

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Council we are a team of residents and

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leaders we committed to

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participate in um a process which we

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didn't quite know what it was to begin

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with but um folks just decided to come

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together through the foundation and all

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of the great work that they've done um

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to discuss issues in our community where

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we could affect systems change so in

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that process process we started off with

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a three-day kickoff which was uh we

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included a consultant from the community

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science who came in to run that 3-day

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Workshop back in March

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wow so in that process we were presented

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with a few different possible

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projects um and narrowed it down to

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quality affordable

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housing I missed the last point there

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was that oh sorry sorry um and okay so

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there's still 18 members now actively

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engaged and there's still more interest

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coming that was the part that I I wanted

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to miss next slide so 90 days of action

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what does that look like so the

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community science basically gave us an

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outline to work from we identified

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different areas that we needed to

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address um and broke off into subgroups

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and began the work in 90 days now it is

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quite a task to tackle

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housing in 90 days

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um especially when you're not like

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myself necessarily close to the problem

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um with regard to some of the ways that

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it was presented I would say that we're

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all close to the problem because we all

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want quality housing so it involves all

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of us um but it wasn't an area that I

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had particularly tackled but with the or

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some of the people on the committee

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hadn't tackled but we were committed to

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90 days of action and so we started our

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process so next slide oh part of that

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process was branding and marketing

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deciding what exactly it is we were

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going to do so we created a vision in

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which our uh we envisioned a future

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where everyone in Connected can live in

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a healthy home that helps them Thrive

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and unleash their full potential so we

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all agree that this is what we wanted

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the outcome of this initiative to

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be so some of the challenges we faced

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were landlords tenants homeowners

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neighborhood leaders City staff we all

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have these important roles to play in

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improving housing for the SK conc um but

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we don't always communicate uh in in

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ways that are going to get us towards um

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improving housing

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here um so we sort of tackled that

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problem through Community

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engagement in one of the Committees that

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we had was research and policy so that

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committee went out and did particular

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work in looking at uh benchmarking

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existing policies around hous

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and and trying to find the gold standard

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that we could learn about and then model

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here in

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SKC uh through the work that I did on

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the engagement I leveraged my resources

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from Albany and we were put in touch

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with the United tenants Association

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which doesn't serve skincity to the

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capacity that it serves Albany but is

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yet serving the capital region and did

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have some data to to report back to us

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but what we found is they had um this

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tool called the Albany landlord report

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card um and it was aligned with what we

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were discussing in our initial 3 days of

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action and so we decided to move forward

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with exploration on how some a model

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like this could be applied here in

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skincity another component of our work

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was mapping out our Rich resources and

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skincity around housing and creating um

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an ecosystem which if you happen to have

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one of our handouts you'll notice the

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ecosystem there or you'll see it up on

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our slideshow so this is a work in

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progress there are lots of organizations

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that may not be um identified here in

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this ecosystem so there's it's potential

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to build on it but this was our starting

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point part and looking at some of the

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resources that we have and how they're

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connected around housing here so Second

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Step was

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to meet with slick and I see Chris

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Morris is here so we um had the

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opportunity to present at their August

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meeting I believe and to to hear

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feedback um and to offer an opportunity

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to engage in the process of developing

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the

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landlord um tool the landlord app we

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we're calling it lease so I just want to

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highlight that relationship a little bit

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because it wasn't smooth sailing when we

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started there are a lot of

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um there's there's a lot of things that

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have happened over the past few years

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between landlords and tenants in terms

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of relationships that needs to be

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rebuilt and conversations need to be

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opened um so that we're working together

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to provide landlords with good tenants

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that they need and our tenants with good

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homes where they need to live so this um

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I'm I'm proud to say that if within

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those 90 days of action uh that win was

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is a big one because we're continuing

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the conversations as we move forward

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with building the tool that will help up

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lift good landlords in our

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area step three feel like we skipped

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over some stuff and I'm sure we did it

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was a jamack 90 days

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um so yeah so we we started digging into

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some of the items that uh are needed to

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uh prioritize what we want

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to learn through the

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application um we want to provide

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information about rental properties and

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recognize that landlords who comply with

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the city codes so we need a lot of folks

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in this room on board uh we did create a

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community survey to make sure that this

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is something that our residents actually

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wanted and elely is going to present on

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some of that survey data for us

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shortly um and maybe just now

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so thank you so much my name is Elise

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Martin I work in housing over at connect

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Community Action Program or scap uh so

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you can see we had a really great

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response to our survey uh to 220

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responses the majority of them are from

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renters about a third of them from

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homeowners and we also had some landlord

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feedback as

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well um no surprise that the number one

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priority for everyone who is responding

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is the cost of housing when they're

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looking at where they're going to be

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moving um and then the quality of

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housing so is it safe does it pass code

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um is it in someplace that makes me feel

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safe does it have the amenities I need

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on a first floor uh washer dryer hook

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UPS Etc um and then the responsibility

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of the landlord to be responsive and

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building that uh working relationship in

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the beginning uh so that's what our

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community is

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prioritizing um and you can see that

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when we checked in to um ask if they

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were interested in some type of tool um

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that uh similar to the one that Albany

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has around 70% said yes they would be

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interested and it would be helpful for

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them when either uh trying to just uh

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address challenges that they have in

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their housing currently or when they're

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looking for a new

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housing um so a little bit more about

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what would go into this Tool uh so on

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the next slide uh there's a list of the

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type of data so just a couple uh

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examples here and this is in handout uh

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so you can read further uh eviction

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information code violation violation

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information this would all get fed into

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the report card uh to create a unified

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uh easyto read

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score um and the next steps for this

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project we are looking to engage uh

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stakeholders so we're here today like we

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mentioned we've been talking with the

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landlords we've been engaging the

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community uh so making sure this is

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really well well-rounded and that

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everyone's voice is at the table um

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looking for funding uh for the actual uh

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application and then working in

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Partnership to build out the tool

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all right and I'm going to hand it over

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to wrap up our

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presentation I guess

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it's we do need you I'm sorry to come

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over here so that you can be on the

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camera so bring over here do you want to

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bring your laptop with you yeah

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yeah

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hello how's that yeah it's it's just for

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the folks at home so um as going we

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started our next guest thank you for

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hosting us today um we want to uh

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continue to improve and increase contact

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with Community overall just building

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these uh

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relationships um and highlighting the

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intersectionality of of oversight and

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ferally distributed um funds and

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programs for people that consumer is

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live um I'm so proud to be part of uh an

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01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:05,400
agenda that includes the community um so

1357
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,800
we want to highlight that we are here

1358
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:11,000
with construct relationships and that

1359
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,320
we're still we're still um managing data

1360
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,320
and collecting

1361
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,320
data

1362
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:25,239
and so laity um played a lot of ground

1363
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:26,920
workor um the first n the action engaged

1364
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:31,520
um most of the people that are here

1365
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:34,280
today but also uh it reflects that when

1366
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:36,520
the community is included and things

1367
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,320
that uh concern them and their quality

1368
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:44,920
of life um it's important to make sure

1369
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:49,280
that we have a a base a a collective

1370
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:52,760
that um not just collects those that

1371
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:56,920
information but we create constructive

1372
01:15:52,760 --> 01:16:00,239
solutions for people here um especially

1373
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:03,280
we're a largely urban community and um a

1374
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:07,560
lot of the people represented by members

1375
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:12,159
here can tell you and agree that um it's

1376
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:16,159
people that that run the economy and we

1377
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:18,600
we um we're happy that sen is now

1378
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:20,199
recognizing that the foundations that

1379
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,360
are here agencies that already

1380
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:26,639
established can come together and agree

1381
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:30,199
that um helping consumers and residents

1382
01:16:26,639 --> 01:16:32,880
have a uh a place and have recourse for

1383
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:36,560
their concerns as consumers is

1384
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:39,800
important um so during the first 90 days

1385
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:44,239
um they took action by building the

1386
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:47,320
database that they're calling Le and um

1387
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:51,600
also making the

1388
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,600
uh we call

1389
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:03,480
identifying our assets so um I just want

1390
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:06,880
to make sure who going to the EOS system

1391
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:09,600
or ecosystem that includes yes that

1392
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:13,280
includes the community and um agencies

1393
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:17,000
that have already um Place their efforts

1394
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:19,719
toward agenda like ours and consumers

1395
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:23,679
and local tenants and local community

1396
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:25,600
members who um are largely consumers

1397
01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:27,320
here in

1398
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:30,199
so we want to highlight that building

1399
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:32,400
relationships that um are GE toward the

1400
01:17:30,199 --> 01:17:36,280
commit thank you for sharing your space

1401
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:39,679
by the way so

1402
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:43,440
um before you um move on to this side

1403
01:17:39,679 --> 01:17:47,719
just want to make sure that we

1404
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:49,280
also we also are proud to include that

1405
01:17:47,719 --> 01:17:50,920
um in the data that we've already

1406
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:55,120
collected there's

1407
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:57,239
220 um 220

1408
01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:00,800
are completed

1409
01:17:57,239 --> 01:18:03,560
already we want to make sure that the

1410
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,320
presence of the

1411
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,080
ecosystem

1412
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:10,360
intersectionality um and that a place

1413
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:14,280
for community

1414
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:16,800
members tenants residents longtime

1415
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:20,760
contributors to the local commy have a

1416
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:23,920
place that they feel safe to g a a place

1417
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:27,440
that they know they will not only be

1418
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:30,320
recognized but that their issues as

1419
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:32,679
consumers are going have the proper

1420
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,400
oversight and the proper attention and

1421
01:18:32,679 --> 01:18:38,040
that we know the researchers are already

1422
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:41,920
here for us to allocate a Equitable

1423
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:44,920
experience for all tenants of the local

1424
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:48,960
commit um

1425
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,960
so I'm use my

1426
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:57,719
SL am I okay SL yeah it just the next

1427
01:18:53,679 --> 01:19:00,760
steps so the next steps are uh obviously

1428
01:18:57,719 --> 01:19:04,280
to continue the survey the survey is

1429
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:06,800
going to be careed toward making sure

1430
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,120
we've explored every aspect of the

1431
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,080
consumer

1432
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:15,400
experience every aspect of tenants and

1433
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:18,080
um local concerns for their quality of

1434
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:21,480
life reability of

1435
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,760
hous um the responsiveness of the

1436
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:26,239
housing

1437
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:29,560
authority and I know personally that my

1438
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:31,360
um pursuit of fair housing has I've

1439
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:34,480
encountered many

1440
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,560
barriers um and I just want to voice be

1441
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:38,520
the voice

1442
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,360
concerned for people who haven't found

1443
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:43,280
uh a place for an agency where is

1444
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:47,800
directly here toward their consumer

1445
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:51,040
concerns but mailing you know

1446
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:55,080
applications doll to S

1447
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:58,920
applications uh the barriers that people

1448
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:00,960
um will encounter responsiveness of

1449
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:04,520
landlords and

1450
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:08,360
prorities this is all barriers that they

1451
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,920
they cost the consumer so much um

1452
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:14,239
they

1453
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,639
participating and a h program program

1454
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:19,120
you know that we

1455
01:20:15,639 --> 01:20:23,239
have you know we have requirements and

1456
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:25,600
tenant um we all have to live and and

1457
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:29,600
we're required to Pro

1458
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:32,920
that we come to come we we add up to a

1459
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:37,520
standard we that we uh we required to

1460
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:40,199
prove that we can um uh uh provide a

1461
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:43,760
certain standard or consistency for that

1462
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:44,520
vard and so we hope that that's going to

1463
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,560
be

1464
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:49,360
anable experience for all consumers and

1465
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:54,960
especially

1466
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:56,400
um and um and people they haven't have

1467
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,159
or

1468
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,080
place

1469
01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:04,040
is for

1470
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,760
time

1471
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:09,040
next do we take any questions yeah let's

1472
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,040
take

1473
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:18,360
questions the housing one's going to be

1474
01:21:19,159 --> 01:21:25,080
together I'm wondering if there's anyone

1475
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:27,120
um from slick and Al Andor um from The

1476
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:30,080
Sting Municipal Housing Authority that

1477
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:33,080
have been a part of the 15 or 18 people

1478
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:36,840
that have been putting this together um

1479
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:39,760
slick no Housing Authority no so

1480
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:42,280
initially initially in the initial group

1481
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,560
with the um for the systems change

1482
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:48,120
movement before the housing issue was

1483
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:52,000
decided it was open to any Resident from

1484
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:54,239
this County I believe uh City connecting

1485
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:57,440
to partic to choose to participate and

1486
01:21:54,239 --> 01:22:00,040
be part of a systems change movement so

1487
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:01,920
that Core Body those 18 people are the

1488
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,840
people who stuck with it throughout the

1489
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,960
90 days of action whether housing was

1490
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:09,400
their personal issue that they brought

1491
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,920
in the initial survey or not it was a

1492
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Collective Agreement to move forward

1493
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,560
since then engaging with the city

1494
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,880
council identifying the folks in the

1495
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,840
ecosystem who need to be have a seat at

1496
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,440
the table to talk about housing issues

1497
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,760
that was part of the 90 days in the

1498
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:27,159
process so in that process a

1499
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,440
presentation with the slick as well as

1500
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:32,120
you know continuing our relationship

1501
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:34,320
with SCA um there were particular rules

1502
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,000
and regulations with this committee and

1503
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,560
that if you had

1504
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,960
um certain decision-making abilities

1505
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:43,440
Through Your Role or position that you

1506
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:46,000
weren't a voting member so um you know

1507
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:48,120
we we got Stars if we could vote and if

1508
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,600
you were considered in a position of

1509
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:55,199
power um over the the group dynamic and

1510
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:57,280
you weren't giving a a voting privilege

1511
01:22:55,199 --> 01:23:00,040
um you have more oh yeah just want to

1512
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:03,600
say so scaff and Slick has been uh have

1513
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:06,800
been acting as advisory to it um because

1514
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,000
it is community Leed um so we're we're

1515
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,840
at the table we're meeting together uh

1516
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,760
but the the direct for is coming from

1517
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,480
the community members thank you and I

1518
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:18,199
will add that if you did complete the

1519
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:19,920
survey or it still is open if you

1520
01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:21,880
haven't there is a place to indicate

1521
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,480
whether or not you would be interested

1522
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,159
in contributing to the housing ones

1523
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:28,679
concy I know there's uh a lot of

1524
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:32,920
conversations regarding the lease app

1525
01:23:28,679 --> 01:23:34,480
and how uh we will wait the the system

1526
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,120
so that it's fair and Equitable and

1527
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:38,520
achieves the goals that we want it to

1528
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:42,360
achieve collectively it is not meant to

1529
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:44,480
be uh the Albany model here applied in

1530
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:47,040
connectivty this is meant to actually

1531
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:51,400
build upon the Albany model and improve

1532
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:54,960
it so that it's uh a resource um that

1533
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,960
that we want to use

1534
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,120
Mr par yeah so first of all thank you

1535
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,840
for this important work I really

1536
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,840
appreciate um the community engagement

1537
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:05,840
aspect of this um I did hear words like

1538
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,560
intersectionality and equity which I'm

1539
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,639
always excited to hear um I'm just

1540
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,760
wondering like during the survey what

1541
01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:16,400
type of demographic information are you

1542
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:19,000
collecting um to ensure that

1543
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:21,320
equable working across intersectionality

1544
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:25,159
to ensure like that's like our you guys

1545
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:27,120
like like your social economic uh race

1546
01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:28,600
type of demographic information as part

1547
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:33,120
of the surver to

1548
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Ure was the specifics just Z collecting

1549
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:37,880
um I didn't get the slide in there with

1550
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,760
zip codes um we have zip codes there's

1551
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:44,520
not a lot of demographic information in

1552
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:47,040
there um but we did extend the survey

1553
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:49,960
because we noticed that uh the zip codes

1554
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,639
that were responding were not uh the

1555
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,760
Target demographic that we're looking

1556
01:24:51,639 --> 01:24:56,080
for um so we're doing specific targeting

1557
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,199
in Hamilton H not pleasant Etc to make

1558
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,159
sure that we're getting a large scope as

1559
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:01,760
well as making sure we're getting

1560
01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:04,719
homeowners tenants and

1561
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,760
landlords so just one more thing

1562
01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:08,320
so I can see like you have to careful

1563
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,639
when you're doing surveys cuz people are

1564
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,679
don't like taking them if you're asking

1565
01:25:09,639 --> 01:25:14,280
a whole bunch so so I wanted to say that

1566
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:16,560
too that that's not lost to me um so the

1567
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:19,960
landlord report card piece is that like

1568
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,679
so what does that mean for a landlord is

1569
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,440
this just like more like a marketing

1570
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:27,159
tool for a landlord to say hey a plus

1571
01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:29,520
ated by this entity or is there any more

1572
01:25:27,159 --> 01:25:31,520
other any other type of incentives or

1573
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,440
things outside of that that yeah I mean

1574
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:36,000
we' we've talked in brainstorming that

1575
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:37,520
this could pull in resources for them

1576
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,480
and we've talked about different Grant

1577
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,440
fundings um and Foundation money you

1578
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:44,800
know could this lead to you're eligible

1579
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:48,719
for certain funding if you know you meet

1580
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,159
a certain rate it is also um good you

1581
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:52,080
know we talked a little bit about like

1582
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:55,280
HUD requirements so if you're high rated

1583
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,840
on this you're likely to be able to get

1584
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,480
um a voucher program which is a great

1585
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,440
setup for a landlord and get that direct

1586
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:01,719
payment because you probably done all

1587
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:03,520
the things you need to do to have your

1588
01:26:01,719 --> 01:26:06,199
apartment P inspection so it's about

1589
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,320
keeping your apartment up so you have

1590
01:26:06,199 --> 01:26:10,600
for all these things so I think it it

1591
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,400
lays a good foundation for us to use as

1592
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,400
like a unified tool across the community

1593
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,199
and I think have other possibilities

1594
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,800
thank

1595
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:22,040
you so in um in regards I see the

1596
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:24,600
priorities um issues were the housing

1597
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:26,239
costs quality of Housing and and in the

1598
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:29,760
context of the ecosystem what were some

1599
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:32,520
of the identified of responsiveness what

1600
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:35,400
was working well what on agencies with

1601
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:38,000
the needs of of residents being met

1602
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,199
areas of breakdown that we could focus

1603
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,679
on yeah so that's kind of our next step

1604
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:45,880
right right now what we built out is the

1605
01:26:42,679 --> 01:26:47,159
ecosystem and we are um pulling in

1606
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,199
people from different areas of the

1607
01:26:47,159 --> 01:26:51,840
community to make sure that we have

1608
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:53,040
everything on the map that we need um

1609
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,600
and we're looking at what the

1610
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,040
connections are both formal and informal

1611
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,800
and then building out that resource to

1612
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,840
see what the gaps are so those are our

1613
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,840
next

1614
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,960
steps

1615
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:07,239
okay that's it all right thank you so

1616
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:09,560
much time thank you uh and to members of

1617
01:27:07,239 --> 01:27:11,360
the public I saw somebody raised their

1618
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,560
hand so if you if you got the contact

1619
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,960
information you can contact them

1620
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:17,000
directly and ask any questions you

1621
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:20,440
have thank

1622
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:22,679
you um next Mr

1623
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:26,119
wall we'll give us some information on

1624
01:27:22,679 --> 01:27:26,119
the do he hear in the room

1625
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:33,639
he was here I thought he was as

1626
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:36,840
well

1627
01:27:33,639 --> 01:27:39,800
okay yes is that you okay that's not Mr

1628
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:43,800
wall Mr triny over

1629
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:48,239
here my hands you needed to that can be

1630
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:50,480
heard um yeah so I'm Brian triny um the

1631
01:27:48,239 --> 01:27:53,040
building inspector for the city of skty

1632
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:54,800
and along with that comes a flood plane

1633
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,639
hazard manager

1634
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:01,960
so um I am appointed flood plane uh

1635
01:27:57,639 --> 01:28:04,920
Hazard manager so uh there's some

1636
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:07,560
there's been some inquiry um from

1637
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:10,840
Council about uh some of the development

1638
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:13,880
that's going on in the Mohawk Harbor and

1639
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,560
um we've we've had some uh inquiry

1640
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:19,960
ourselves with

1641
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:22,560
DEC and uh that brought up some

1642
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,679
um Discovery there's been a change a

1643
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:27,719
passing of the torch at the East see

1644
01:28:24,679 --> 01:28:31,840
there's a new uh State flood plane

1645
01:28:27,719 --> 01:28:33,960
manager there and he has some inquiry of

1646
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:37,840
um how that has been managed and

1647
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:40,159
developed in Mohawk Harbor so uh we have

1648
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,600
been um Gathering documents and

1649
01:28:40,159 --> 01:28:46,000
supplying them to

1650
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:48,840
DEC uh and uh you know my

1651
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,360
predecessors uh from what I've been

1652
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:54,360
coming up with and discovering have been

1653
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:57,199
have managed that properly Mohawk Harbor

1654
01:28:54,360 --> 01:29:00,119
was um brought out of the flood plane

1655
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:01,800
elevation with Phil and uh this care of

1656
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:04,639
most of the properties that have been

1657
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:07,440
developed before uh before I was here at

1658
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:11,119
the city um and my intention moving

1659
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:13,880
forward is to uh keep managing these uh

1660
01:29:11,119 --> 01:29:16,199
this development properly and uh making

1661
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:20,440
sure the proper documentation and

1662
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:23,239
surveys are uh are are prepared as this

1663
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:25,040
development moves forward so uh what

1664
01:29:23,239 --> 01:29:27,639
what sparked this inquiry and

1665
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:30,800
development uh about flood plane

1666
01:29:27,639 --> 01:29:33,679
development here is um the doc project

1667
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:37,000
that we have at molar Harbor and U you

1668
01:29:33,679 --> 01:29:40,280
know that will um I I think Chris Wallen

1669
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:42,320
is here to elaborate on that doc project

1670
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:45,360
um but I did want to answer any

1671
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:46,679
questions that I could about um the

1672
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,760
flood plane

1673
01:29:46,679 --> 01:29:50,080
management so um we all received an

1674
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,960
email which prompted some of the

1675
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,520
questions so at this point in time I

1676
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,880
know do you had you have any specific

1677
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,679
questions Mr man well from from the

1678
01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:00,679
email it looked like that there were

1679
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:03,320
some concern um on on the part of the

1680
01:30:00,679 --> 01:30:05,280
state and so I wanted to you know kind

1681
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:08,840
of understand that a little bit better

1682
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:11,880
and where we were in that process and is

1683
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:16,600
that going to hold up this price any way

1684
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:18,360
so um I I'll I'll lean I'll lean to

1685
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,360
Chris on the doc project he can follow

1686
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:24,239
me up uh when we talk specifically about

1687
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:25,800
the doc project um that plan is 100% and

1688
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:28,639
he's very familiar with the U

1689
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:30,800
engineering side of that um but I'll

1690
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:33,239
pass it on answer that question okay so

1691
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,560
the docs we are designed and we were

1692
01:30:33,239 --> 01:30:39,400
ready to go to bid however the dec

1693
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,960
during their review asked for a flood

1694
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,760
survey is make sure that the

1695
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,920
installation of the peers they are 6

1696
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,520
18in Piers they want to make sure that

1697
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,159
that does not impact the uh flood

1698
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,800
elevation the final flood elevation of

1699
01:30:49,159 --> 01:30:54,000
the river um we do not think there's

1700
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,960
really any way that it could given that

1701
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,440
they are 18in cylindrical round piers in

1702
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,320
the River Bank however they want to see

1703
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:02,320
the Cs they want to see us go through

1704
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,239
that step I have a meeting with our

1705
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,600
consultant Wednesday morning to go

1706
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:09,400
through it but uh it's similar to um

1707
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,760
what we had to do for Mohawk Harbor or

1708
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,440
what GL group had to do for m haror just

1709
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,480
on a much smaller scale we are going to

1710
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:19,320
get there report so if you remember when

1711
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:22,400
when we took Mohawk Harbor out of the

1712
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:23,760
flood plane the now you're taking area

1713
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,239
out of the flood plane that otherwise

1714
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,080
would would flood so they want to make

1715
01:31:25,239 --> 01:31:29,119
sure you're not going to impact areas

1716
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,960
that would flood and put your flooding

1717
01:31:29,119 --> 01:31:34,880
elsewhere that's why that when we raise

1718
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,639
Mohawk Harbor's uh base elevation of

1719
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,440
ground they also had to pull the River

1720
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:40,520
Bank back because they had to do a

1721
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:42,520
calculation to say that if we're going

1722
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,440
to take away this volume we have to add

1723
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,400
the volume in a similar capacity so that

1724
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:48,760
we don't increase the risk of flooding

1725
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,840
to The Stockade or to the surrounding

1726
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:53,080
areas so it's a similar study just on a

1727
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:55,600
much smaller scale that they have to do

1728
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,760
because the rest of the the everything

1729
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:00,239
else is not permanent the docks are

1730
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:02,840
meant to float up or float down and then

1731
01:32:00,239 --> 01:32:05,159
in the winter season or non Canal season

1732
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,600
are removed from the river so the only

1733
01:32:05,159 --> 01:32:08,760
thing that will be left in the river

1734
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:11,440
permanently are these six cylindrical

1735
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,960
Piers uh and they're actually existing

1736
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:14,880
above What's called the average high

1737
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,480
water mark so they're not actually in

1738
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:20,360
the river but in a flood situation they

1739
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:22,159
are in the flood so so that would be so

1740
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,119
we have to do this additional Ser uh

1741
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:28,000
this additional study it will delay us a

1742
01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:30,119
little bit but it is what it what was

1743
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:33,520
requested anyone

1744
01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:36,840
else okay well thank

1745
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,840
you thank you

1746
01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:42,119
Chris next committee is Public Safety so

1747
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,719
I'd like to call to order to the Public

1748
01:32:42,119 --> 01:32:45,440
Safety Committee we have one item on the

1749
01:32:43,719 --> 01:32:47,400
agenda tonight that is revisiting a

1750
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:49,679
discussion about reducing the city speed

1751
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:52,400
limit to 25 M hour and other traffic

1752
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:53,840
safety measures M Patrick yes thank you

1753
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:56,920
um so we've been talking about this

1754
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:58,440
since August of 2022 I'm hoping that we

1755
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,280
will get to the point where we can

1756
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:02,400
actually make a decision about whether

1757
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:06,239
we're going to limit uh reduce the speed

1758
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:08,560
limit to 25 miles hour um so uh I think

1759
01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:12,480
it was two meetings ago we requested

1760
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:16,960
that U Mr wall and Mr Cannon and

1761
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:21,119
um uh Lieutenant uh

1762
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:24,119
Brian is it rle yeah boua uh would come

1763
01:33:21,119 --> 01:33:26,239
and talk with us today and U make some

1764
01:33:24,119 --> 01:33:31,280
commendations um about the reduction in

1765
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:31,280
the speed limit so take it away Mr

1766
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:39,320
W I will try to be brief uh but I this

1767
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,600
is not so much that but so much a lot of

1768
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,520
things all at once so I'm going to kind

1769
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,840
of hit you with some information and

1770
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,600
then you guys can think about the

1771
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,600
information we can come back I do not

1772
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,800
want you to think of this as a oneoff

1773
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,080
I'm here every other week so you can

1774
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,480
always ask for another update so we're

1775
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,600
going to call this an update because

1776
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,679
this is what we're going to do traffic

1777
01:33:55,600 --> 01:34:00,239
safety update I've been meeting now with

1778
01:33:57,679 --> 01:34:02,360
with uh Brian Canon and Brian bouga I

1779
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,880
tried to print these for you uh but my

1780
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,199
printer did not work with it and I can

1781
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:08,119
hand it out in the future but this is

1782
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:10,760
what I'm calling our Traffic Safety

1783
01:34:08,119 --> 01:34:12,560
update so I want to make sure we're

1784
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,520
asking the right questions when we're

1785
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,480
around this table the question shouldn't

1786
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:18,520
be how do we reduce speed right it's how

1787
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:20,199
do we increase safety so the number one

1788
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,000
goal when you meet with the no we meet

1789
01:34:20,199 --> 01:34:24,159
with anybody is how do we reduce serious

1790
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,080
injuries fatalities so speeding is a

1791
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:28,080
part of that but the number one metric

1792
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,800
that everyone uses is speed is serious

1793
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,360
injuries fatalities then you have

1794
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,800
speeding you have minor accidents and I

1795
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,600
know around this table you also want to

1796
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,960
reduce your complaints because that's

1797
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:41,400
what we hear from here from the public

1798
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:44,840
um we are not alone in this so I

1799
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:47,280
am just part of a bigger Cog here so we

1800
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,280
work with the dot we work with our no

1801
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,119
which is the capital region

1802
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:52,560
Transportation Council we work with

1803
01:34:50,119 --> 01:34:53,800
Federal highways we work with the CDTA

1804
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,080
we work with the regional planning

1805
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,280
commission and I'm sure I'm forgetting a

1806
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,199
bunch of people you know we work with

1807
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,639
the county we work with Community groups

1808
01:34:58,199 --> 01:35:03,960
but these are the main people um what

1809
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:06,280
we're talking about is not a city issue

1810
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,480
it is a national issue it is a state

1811
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:11,280
issue it's a worldwide issue it's just

1812
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:12,960
we're focused on the city so I don't do

1813
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,800
this alone I have lots of people to

1814
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,760
support me and this is also something

1815
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,880
that lots of people are also working on

1816
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:23,920
even in the city uh always talk about

1817
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:26,560
the three E I am 1e I am engineering we

1818
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:29,320
have education and we have enforcement

1819
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:31,000
um education is always the hardest one

1820
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,360
if everybody knew to cross on a

1821
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,000
crosswalk and weight if everybody knew

1822
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,080
to push a button if everybody drove the

1823
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,080
speed limit you know sometimes what they

1824
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:41,920
say is new laws are not the solution

1825
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:43,880
just obey the laws that are there that's

1826
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,800
tough all right and a lot of it falls on

1827
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,280
engineering right if nobody's going to

1828
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,760
obey the law if we don't have the staff

1829
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,440
to enforce the law then we got to

1830
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:54,080
engineer it so that people obey by the

1831
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:56,360
law and that gets difficult

1832
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:59,199
uh this is some data that the SPD

1833
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:01,679
provided me I just wanted to show it um

1834
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:03,760
this is a summary of the tickets issued

1835
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:05,480
last year and where we are to date of

1836
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,960
the tickets issue this year it's a lot

1837
01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:08,960
of information that's why I try to get

1838
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:12,080
it in a print out for you but I will

1839
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:14,520
express it but on the most part we seem

1840
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:16,800
to be trending very similar um just to

1841
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:20,719
let you know equipment I I had it you'll

1842
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:22,920
see the kind of a um where is uh 20% and

1843
01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:26,800
20% so that's the numbers are actually

1844
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:30,840
identical that year and equipment is um

1845
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:33,239
too loud of a car muffler noise um and

1846
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,880
then uh tinted glass things like that

1847
01:36:33,239 --> 01:36:38,119
that is what equipment is it's issues

1848
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,719
with your vehicle and then right of way

1849
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:41,400
is if you're driving the wrong way on a

1850
01:36:39,719 --> 01:36:43,159
road if you're cutting through a parking

1851
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,360
lot if you're doing anything kind of in

1852
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:47,880
the right away illegally but not within

1853
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,400
essentially the road itself um that was

1854
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:52,440
right away so those were the two that

1855
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:54,480
aren't as self descriptive as as I like

1856
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:56,800
but this is where we are today we use a

1857
01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:58,719
track system to do these things we've

1858
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,080
also just signed up to make sure we have

1859
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:03,440
it into uh the clear database which

1860
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:05,920
tracks accidents in a geographic GIS

1861
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:08,159
database and all this information is

1862
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:10,199
being provided um to the mayor's office

1863
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:12,840
for his reports and we are starting to

1864
01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:15,440
look at it for um future

1865
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,320
implementation um this you know this is

1866
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,400
one of the things I want to tell you

1867
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,760
when I say that we're all working

1868
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,199
together I had a meeting which I'll talk

1869
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,719
about briefly but I had a meeting last

1870
01:37:21,199 --> 01:37:26,480
week at the no the capital reg

1871
01:37:23,719 --> 01:37:27,520
Transportation Council and this is the

1872
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,800
information they have just for the

1873
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:32,360
city's connected using the clear system

1874
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:35,320
using all the data that's available they

1875
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:38,080
already have areas here that are in the

1876
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:40,239
city that they think are issues and they

1877
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,159
want us to look at so I just take this

1878
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:44,040
list and go one step further when I met

1879
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:45,760
with them they were happy to see that I

1880
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,920
I already know about this you don't know

1881
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,199
we're working on this this just things

1882
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,920
that we're doing so Crane Street Albany

1883
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:51,920
Street that was on the top of their list

1884
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,560
and they said hey do you want to do a

1885
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:56,000
Lincoln study and I said we already

1886
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,280
doing I said okay great they go what

1887
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,960
about Eastern Avenue I go we already

1888
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,360
replaced the signal with Eastern Avenue

1889
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:03,880
they go okay now we're 0 for three right

1890
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:05,520
Albany Str Brandy Wine North Elm we do

1891
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,040
have an area there that we're looking at

1892
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,599
that's the next phase of it but we

1893
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:12,239
already did all uh Liberty that's the

1894
01:38:09,599 --> 01:38:14,400
same area with that um city is connected

1895
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:16,400
down here the South Avenue Brandy Wine

1896
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,400
we just did that that was an H project

1897
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,520
so we don't have to go through the whole

1898
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,360
list but it's just to show you that I

1899
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,520
didn't generate this list this list was

1900
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,320
generated by one of our third party that

1901
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:27,159
is interested in all Al helping us get

1902
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:28,639
highway safety money and seeing crashes

1903
01:38:27,159 --> 01:38:30,080
would you see potential for safety

1904
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:32,560
Improvement so higher the number the

1905
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:34,920
better and killed in seriously injured

1906
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:37,679
down so this is a metric that they use

1907
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:40,280
when they write giving us Federal money

1908
01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:42,199
um current tools these are all the

1909
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:44,719
things that we're currently doing

1910
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:46,159
enforcement we have PD we have radar

1911
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:48,440
Science we just bought some more for

1912
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:50,199
school zones we have variable message

1913
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:53,000
radar signs there are the signs out

1914
01:38:50,199 --> 01:38:54,639
there that say high traffic area those

1915
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,119
also have a radar component they can

1916
01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:59,040
take data we have the temporary speed

1917
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:01,400
tables that we purchased and we have the

1918
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:03,800
optical sensors aka the smart nodes that

1919
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:06,639
we've deployed throughout the city um

1920
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:08,679
all of these allow us to collect data

1921
01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:10,480
and to try to push everything together

1922
01:39:08,679 --> 01:39:12,360
uh even talking with Brian Canon he he

1923
01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:14,560
shared with me you know abundant amount

1924
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,920
of data that the optical nodes uh gave

1925
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,760
us for some of the areas that we were

1926
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:20,880
looking at which broke down percentile

1927
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,080
speeds average speeds high speeds so

1928
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,000
that's what we're looking at those are

1929
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:27,000
the tools that we currently have uh I

1930
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,440
don't see anybody from SPD here but you

1931
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,760
know always they always say they could

1932
01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:32,239
always use more enforcement so you know

1933
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,800
more people on the street the more

1934
01:39:32,239 --> 01:39:36,920
enforcement that you have potential

1935
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,960
tools all right these are kind of what

1936
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,520
Cara would You' like to talk about so I

1937
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,199
numbered them a little bit right so we

1938
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:45,080
have the reduction of the Citywide speed

1939
01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:47,400
limit how do we do that City resolution

1940
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:49,199
we have permanent speed tables how do we

1941
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,480
do that I'd like to come up with a city

1942
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:53,480
procedure and possibly a resolution

1943
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:55,520
depending on what we need then we have

1944
01:39:53,480 --> 01:39:57,760
implementation of Red Lake cameras and

1945
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:00,080
implementation of school zone cameras

1946
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,400
both of these I don't have this tool I

1947
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,320
think it's bigger but I know that we

1948
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:06,360
talked about home rule last time but

1949
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:07,880
it's something there so the number one

1950
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,760
that we've been talking about for 2

1951
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,280
years right the reduction of the speed

1952
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:13,199
so like I said I had a meeting on August

1953
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,679
15th with the capara transportation

1954
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:16,520
Council and they're conducting about the

1955
01:40:14,679 --> 01:40:18,719
vision zero plan which was a federally

1956
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,639
funded plan through the safy streets for

1957
01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:22,840
all grant program so we're part of that

1958
01:40:20,639 --> 01:40:25,119
plan which includes many safety metrics

1959
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,360
which is also where that table came from

1960
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:28,599
uh what they'd like to do is take a

1961
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,440
couple select areas of the city look at

1962
01:40:28,599 --> 01:40:32,599
it do some reports and get some traffic

1963
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:34,400
data on those areas one of the big

1964
01:40:32,599 --> 01:40:36,920
things that I want to share with you

1965
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,639
that is going to help us with this is

1966
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,760
that previously we have done a speed

1967
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:42,880
study we did it on Kings Road and we did

1968
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:45,760
it on Rugby Road and I sat here and I

1969
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:48,760
said that using the do the New York

1970
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,000
state do metrics it was not applicable

1971
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:53,280
to reduce the speed on a road like K's

1972
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:55,840
Road it didn't meet the metrics the Fed

1973
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:58,080
Federal guidance is relaxed over the

1974
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:01,119
state Guidance the federal guidance will

1975
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:04,080
allow us to reduce speeds on roads like

1976
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:06,239
kan's Road on roads like State Street on

1977
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,360
those major roads so I'm going to show

1978
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:10,440
you that what I want to do right now is

1979
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,159
focus on the nonlocal so I'm going to

1980
01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:14,880
show you another this is called

1981
01:41:12,159 --> 01:41:16,920
functional class all right little lesson

1982
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:19,400
in roadways a little bit all these

1983
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:22,320
colorful roads are functional roads

1984
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:24,239
they're arterials they're collectors you

1985
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:27,400
know as the main road in the city if a

1986
01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:30,080
road on this map is not green blue or

1987
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:32,000
red it's a local road if we were not the

1988
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,480
city of skincity if we were the village

1989
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:36,199
or town of

1990
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:38,480
SKC we do not have the we would not have

1991
01:41:36,199 --> 01:41:40,440
the authority to change the speed limit

1992
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:43,280
on a lot of these roads if you hear

1993
01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:45,280
about the town of East Green Bush

1994
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,760
Village of Scotia any that reducing

1995
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,320
their speed limit they do not have the

1996
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,920
jurisdiction authority to reduce the

1997
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,960
speed limit on County and state roads so

1998
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:55,480
all they did is reduce it on local roads

1999
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,480
if that's all you were asking as a

2000
01:41:55,480 --> 01:41:59,840
council was to reduce the speed liit on

2001
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:02,199
local roads we could do it

2002
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:04,000
today but I don't think that's a further

2003
01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:05,719
action you want to take cuz a local Road

2004
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,960
and the roads are a little bit different

2005
01:42:05,719 --> 01:42:08,800
but I just wanted to show you the

2006
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:11,560
difference I am not concerned about

2007
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:13,040
local roads local roads should be 25 I

2008
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,000
don't have a problem with that it's

2009
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,800
these colorful roads that I just want to

2010
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:19,599
make sure if we're doing this hopefully

2011
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:22,599
one time everybody on the same page

2012
01:42:19,599 --> 01:42:25,360
reduction that I get these roads right

2013
01:42:22,599 --> 01:42:26,719
so then we get into oh it's gone I don't

2014
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:28,440
know where it went to this is a map of

2015
01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:30,679
the city with these two roads and there

2016
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:32,320
should be a map there but it's gone so

2017
01:42:30,679 --> 01:42:33,639
the two roads right now that Brian Canon

2018
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:36,679
and I were looking at if you can use

2019
01:42:33,639 --> 01:42:38,719
your imagination are uh to be designated

2020
01:42:36,679 --> 01:42:41,440
as 30 this is what just based off of the

2021
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:43,400
information that I have is right now

2022
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:45,639
this red line you see here is State

2023
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,639
Street that section of State Street goes

2024
01:42:45,639 --> 01:42:51,280
from the city line to Fair Avenue that

2025
01:42:47,639 --> 01:42:52,920
section of State Street is 35 mph is the

2026
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,639
only and the longest section of the city

2027
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:57,840
that 35 mph it is a commercial Corridor

2028
01:42:55,639 --> 01:43:00,599
and it is mostly commercial with very

2029
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,960
little residential Brian and I talking

2030
01:43:00,599 --> 01:43:05,679
we did not feel that that section is

2031
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:07,840
warranted to go down to 25 but we do

2032
01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:09,480
think that we could reduce it to 30

2033
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,159
after Fair Avenue the character of the

2034
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:14,320
street does change and we would be

2035
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:16,599
looking to possibly go to a 25 or

2036
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:19,320
possibly segment it more possibly like

2037
01:43:16,599 --> 01:43:21,639
mclen Street maybe you go 30 to mlen and

2038
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,119
from mlen all the way to the city line

2039
01:43:21,639 --> 01:43:24,960
again at the Western Gateway Bridge go

2040
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:27,480
close to 25 but these are the things I

2041
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,920
wanted to talk about with the engineers

2042
01:43:27,480 --> 01:43:30,760
before we come to the council with

2043
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:33,119
recommendation the other little squiggly

2044
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:36,159
line you see up there that is Maxim Road

2045
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:38,520
Extension Maxim Road Extension has no

2046
01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:40,239
residential it is a gateway to the city

2047
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:42,599
it leads to Erie Boulevard which is

2048
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:45,800
State controlled which has a 40 mph

2049
01:43:42,599 --> 01:43:47,520
Speedway so it would also if we were to

2050
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:50,239
leave that it would also hopefully

2051
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:52,560
funnel traffic away from such uh of the

2052
01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:55,599
residential districts and on the max in

2053
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:58,239
two Boulevard in there um as you notice

2054
01:43:55,599 --> 01:44:01,639
I do not have Erie Boulevard on here

2055
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:03,040
Erie Boulevard is an enigma to me we do

2056
01:44:01,639 --> 01:44:05,320
not own eie Boulevard from the

2057
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:09,360
roundabout North we own eie Boulevard

2058
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:11,280
from the roundabout South if this was 13

2059
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,719
years ago before I was city engineer I

2060
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:15,040
would tell you that I would not

2061
01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:18,520
recommend it be 25 mph I recommend it

2062
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:20,080
would be 30 plus however we have seen

2063
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,360
since I've been here and since the mayor

2064
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,119
has been mayor and since a lot of us

2065
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,000
have been here eie bouevard is really

2066
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:28,280
transformed from commercial into

2067
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:31,159
residential we have electric city we

2068
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,760
have the apartments F Apartments uh

2069
01:44:31,159 --> 01:44:35,199
where the old car wash used to be now we

2070
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:37,599
have wedgeway we have a lot more

2071
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:40,119
residential on that area and also with

2072
01:44:37,599 --> 01:44:42,159
the density it's really anybody going

2073
01:44:40,119 --> 01:44:43,679
that fast during peak times I'm not sure

2074
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:46,239
so that's an area I would like to look

2075
01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:48,320
at because it has transitioned from a

2076
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:50,080
primarily commercial into a half

2077
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,800
residential so I would like to look at

2078
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,239
that area but this is what we're talking

2079
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,480
about we're not talking about waving and

2080
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:56,760
say everything's 25 I just want to look

2081
01:44:55,480 --> 01:44:59,360
at it and make sure that we're getting

2082
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:02,400
it right and then this also goes into

2083
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:06,520
what we talked about Brian and I about

2084
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:09,360
signage where we have 30 mph zones will

2085
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,960
affect where our signage is so if we

2086
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,480
have a 30 hour street we have to make

2087
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,880
sure that street is 30 so we still have

2088
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:16,639
to change these signs cuz right now it

2089
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,480
says 35 so all the 35s come down all the

2090
01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:21,760
30s come up Brian uh and I were talking

2091
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:23,719
about the streets off of it we just want

2092
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:26,760
to make sure uh if we put up those signs

2093
01:45:23,719 --> 01:45:29,239
that say 25 mph unless otherwise noted

2094
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,960
do we need to put 25 on those streets

2095
01:45:29,239 --> 01:45:33,239
coming off I need to have a a

2096
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,199
conversation about that and then Brian

2097
01:45:33,239 --> 01:45:37,880
uh has uh been working on with John

2098
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:40,560
kucho on a number for the budget for

2099
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:42,480
what we want and the number is not as

2100
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,880
not as large as I had thought which is

2101
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:46,560
good because I think that by doing more

2102
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,239
we're lessening our load but it's still

2103
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:52,880
not nothing if you wanted to talk about

2104
01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:52,880
it at all I mean it's just a quick

2105
01:45:53,080 --> 01:46:00,880
my estimation is around 15 to 20K 15 to

2106
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:02,760
$20,000 upwards of $20,000 I'm hoping as

2107
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:05,520
we get into things we can keep it a

2108
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:07,040
little closer to the 15 but um crunching

2109
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:10,159
the numbers I believe it's right in that

2110
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,159
range that's

2111
01:46:10,639 --> 01:46:16,440
good uh so that's what we're looking at

2112
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:17,760
with regard to speeds um we'll go to the

2113
01:46:16,440 --> 01:46:19,040
end but so this is where we are with

2114
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,560
speed right now we're hoping to have

2115
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:22,360
everything done by the end of this year

2116
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,719
even though the vision zero plan is

2117
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,520
actually going to go to June I asked him

2118
01:46:23,719 --> 01:46:26,719
to roll it up so that we have it and

2119
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,280
we're working with him to make sure that

2120
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:31,280
we get all of our signage and things in

2121
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:32,679
place so the next thing tool two uh this

2122
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,320
came up I wanted to make sure this is a

2123
01:46:32,679 --> 01:46:36,719
kind of a discussion Point speed tables

2124
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,719
all right I remember the council asked

2125
01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:42,480
2022 2023 we wanted to implement a speed

2126
01:46:39,719 --> 01:46:44,719
table Wayne Avenue was our location for

2127
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:47,560
the speed table uh this is just a map of

2128
01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:49,199
work it shows you can see uh MLK School

2129
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,639
Dwayne Avenue and I'm calling them one

2130
01:46:49,199 --> 01:46:52,560
and two and then we have a stop sign in

2131
01:46:50,639 --> 01:46:53,840
the middle stop sign's important because

2132
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:56,599
it's not a straight through you do have

2133
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:58,719
to stop uh this is what the speed tables

2134
01:46:56,599 --> 01:47:00,440
look like uh they're very nice product

2135
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:02,400
little labor intensive to put down but

2136
01:47:00,440 --> 01:47:03,679
once they're down they're down um but

2137
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:06,159
and it is very we got the high

2138
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:10,119
visibility one it's a very nice product

2139
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:13,400
um PD did data pre and post using the

2140
01:47:10,119 --> 01:47:17,080
radar cameras uh and here is a summary

2141
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:18,880
of what they have so I just wanted to i'

2142
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:21,719
got a bunch of notes on here the period

2143
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:24,840
data was taken in uh where it was it

2144
01:47:21,719 --> 01:47:27,320
July so no school but in July and then

2145
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,280
the post data was in June school is in

2146
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:31,440
session the following year after the

2147
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,360
pumps were um if you notice the traffic

2148
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:35,880
was actually up I just wanted you to

2149
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:40,199
notice that because the volumes were up

2150
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:41,840
not huge but up and the speeding numbers

2151
01:47:40,199 --> 01:47:45,360
and the average speeds were actually

2152
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:48,440
down so we do think in the report that

2153
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:50,880
SPD put together did deem that the speed

2154
01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:55,560
tables were effective so you could see

2155
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:59,400
that we went from uh 11 % over to only

2156
01:47:55,560 --> 01:48:01,119
4% that's great our westbound similarly

2157
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,239
westbound is always a little higher the

2158
01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:09,159
other part of it is our Peak speeds 70

2159
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:11,599
mph down to 59 79 mph down to 61 and on

2160
01:48:09,159 --> 01:48:14,639
top of all this data that we have we did

2161
01:48:11,599 --> 01:48:17,880
not receive one complaint over the 3 and

2162
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:20,679
1/2 month installation um and so I I

2163
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,800
think that it was it was a good program

2164
01:48:20,679 --> 01:48:25,199
I think it's something that we have to

2165
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:27,239
look at so I put this together right so

2166
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:29,400
speed tables can provide traffic calming

2167
01:48:27,239 --> 01:48:31,320
and the right application so this is

2168
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:33,119
where I would push back here right is

2169
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:35,320
that I don't want to legislate for my

2170
01:48:33,119 --> 01:48:38,920
office does the city council want to

2171
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:42,119
install permanent speed tables if we do

2172
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:44,159
then the city myself and Brian and SPD

2173
01:48:42,119 --> 01:48:47,400
we can work together to give some

2174
01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:51,080
locations but if we are also going to

2175
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:53,560
allow the public um I have an

2176
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,719
example of uh you might have seen this a

2177
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,199
couple years ago if you want to pass it

2178
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:59,800
around one sheet of what I really would

2179
01:48:57,199 --> 01:49:02,440
like to get put into place for us to

2180
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:04,840
adopt which is an implementation guide

2181
01:49:02,440 --> 01:49:08,119
this guide is what the city of Rochester

2182
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:10,560
uses uh Chief Whipple found it last year

2183
01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:13,440
I think it is a just a terrific guide

2184
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:16,280
for something so that we can control the

2185
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:17,719
requests um of it you know if the city

2186
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,360
if Brian and I and the police are going

2187
01:49:17,719 --> 01:49:20,760
to put something in and it's already

2188
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,800
going to be based off of this

2189
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:25,239
information so the city will be

2190
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,960
following this information but we just

2191
01:49:25,239 --> 01:49:29,000
want to make sure that similarly to the

2192
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:31,000
sidewalk program and things that if

2193
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,560
somebody wants to request something that

2194
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:35,239
it's done in a more of a cohesive

2195
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:37,800
organized Manner and not at this table

2196
01:49:35,239 --> 01:49:40,280
and not through emails and maybe uh

2197
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:42,400
what's the proceed click fix um the only

2198
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:45,639
thing I do want to point out with this

2199
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:48,119
is uh restrictions uh this is a nice

2200
01:49:45,639 --> 01:49:51,440
little map I put together quickly about

2201
01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:53,000
where right now I would not advise so we

2202
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:54,320
have what's called priority streets in

2203
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,360
the city priority streets are usually

2204
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,560
come into effect when you plowing comes

2205
01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:00,320
you want you off the street when it's

2206
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:02,440
plow but priority streets are also our

2207
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,199
priority streets if you were to know

2208
01:50:02,440 --> 01:50:06,000
they're here they're most of our main

2209
01:50:04,199 --> 01:50:07,560
roads we also have an engineering What's

2210
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,520
called the primary Street which is

2211
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,800
essentially an expansion of the primary

2212
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:14,880
Street Network it's just not uh as

2213
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:16,960
important for the plow routs and these

2214
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:18,960
are the roads in the city that I would

2215
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:21,280
recommend that if we're putting together

2216
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:23,080
some legislation to say it that we would

2217
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:26,480
these are off limits we can do maybe

2218
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:29,800
other traffic calming measures but that

2219
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:32,280
speed tables and speed humps we remove

2220
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,880
that from the and I I tried to be I

2221
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,440
tried to be judicious with it you know I

2222
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,159
try to you know like where do you go we

2223
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:39,320
can talk about it Norwood you know right

2224
01:50:37,159 --> 01:50:42,119
by Mount Pleasant Norwood is feeding

2225
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:43,760
it's not a primary it's not a priority

2226
01:50:42,119 --> 01:50:45,320
that could be a main road that we look

2227
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,440
at doing something like that about

2228
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,480
working with the school district there

2229
01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:51,639
are roads secondary roads like that that

2230
01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:52,920
could be affected with feed buds but I

2231
01:50:51,639 --> 01:50:55,800
just want to make sure that we're doing

2232
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:58,320
it in a way and I I can't deny that the

2233
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:59,960
they did work they they did work in the

2234
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,639
right application so I don't want to

2235
01:50:59,960 --> 01:51:04,159
take that off I just want to talk about

2236
01:51:01,639 --> 01:51:07,520
that and then the last thing that we

2237
01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:09,400
have tools three and four they're speed

2238
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:11,360
enforcement cameras and speed

2239
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:13,599
enforcement uh both for red lights and

2240
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:15,280
school zones I talked to Bill Trudeau

2241
01:51:13,599 --> 01:51:17,639
who is the signal superintendent in the

2242
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:20,719
city of Albany uh he has been there for

2243
01:51:17,639 --> 01:51:23,119
I believe 30 plus years uh he says that

2244
01:51:20,719 --> 01:51:25,920
they do have 20 and they were legisl for

2245
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:27,880
20 in school zone so they have 20 and 20

2246
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,320
um they had to pick what school zones

2247
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,599
they're just going into this year I

2248
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:32,840
believe this is going to be their first

2249
01:51:30,599 --> 01:51:34,199
year with them but the uh red light

2250
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,199
cameras at the intersection have been

2251
01:51:34,199 --> 01:51:38,480
functioning so this is a tool that we

2252
01:51:36,199 --> 01:51:40,360
currently don't have but it's something

2253
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:41,960
that if we feel that it's effective we

2254
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:45,040
could make an effort for but I don't

2255
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:48,360
have the road map to get to this um so

2256
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:52,199
with that that's my quick as quick as I

2257
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:55,040
can be of of speed safety in the area um

2258
01:51:52,199 --> 01:51:56,719
we are starting to meet more regularly I

2259
01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:01,199
am meeting with the no I think that

2260
01:51:56,719 --> 01:52:02,880
Vision zero plan is good um but I I just

2261
01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:04,800
want to you know like these are things

2262
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,679
like I tried to show on that slide that

2263
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,599
my office and with Brian coming on board

2264
01:52:06,679 --> 01:52:10,400
these are things we're already doing

2265
01:52:07,599 --> 01:52:12,760
we've already take traffic and safety

2266
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:15,159
and you know we kind of lead the region

2267
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:17,199
in federal aid money AIT money safety

2268
01:52:15,159 --> 01:52:18,639
money but it's something that it's like

2269
01:52:17,199 --> 01:52:20,880
drinking from a fire hose there's going

2270
01:52:18,639 --> 01:52:23,440
to be there's a lot of need in the city

2271
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:25,679
but we are trying to do it so um in this

2272
01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:27,000
presentation I can update it we can try

2273
01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:28,199
to go forward uh a lot of the

2274
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,320
information is going to be updated in

2275
01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:32,320
the mayor's uh monthly smart cities

2276
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:35,239
reports going forward so that could be

2277
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:37,239
made available for his office so I guess

2278
01:52:35,239 --> 01:52:39,520
I'll open it up to the questions at the

2279
01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:41,560
time as always thank you that was a nice

2280
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,480
thorough presentation and then I think

2281
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,920
it very much highlighted that to your

2282
01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:47,040
point there's already measures being

2283
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:49,280
taken by the city and I thought the

2284
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:53,040
other um foot stomp that I would make is

2285
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:54,920
that this is not an issue uh that

2286
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:56,520
disconnect the and of itself is is is

2287
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,360
only experiencing this is a national

2288
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:00,920
issue so at that time I'd like to open

2289
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:03,360
up to any questions or comments as far

2290
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:05,679
yeah so Echo I'm that I'm wonderful uh

2291
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:09,040
very informed presentation so the

2292
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:10,520
question is um so there's some things

2293
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,800
that are in our control right there are

2294
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,840
some things that we can do as far as the

2295
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,840
speed tables which I think was a really

2296
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:17,719
you know showed them to be quite

2297
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,320
effective um when I'm thinking about

2298
01:53:17,719 --> 01:53:22,679
like some place like Kings Road in

2299
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:26,119
particular which um is you know extreme

2300
01:53:22,679 --> 01:53:29,119
high traffic Ro so my question is we're

2301
01:53:26,119 --> 01:53:33,280
talking about the possibility of

2302
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:36,679
reducing uh Citywide uh speed

2303
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:38,760
limit I'm saying all so what type of

2304
01:53:36,679 --> 01:53:40,920
graduated interventions would be

2305
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:43,239
appropriate for a place like King's Road

2306
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:45,599
because talking to Residents is

2307
01:53:43,239 --> 01:53:50,840
is there was like request for a stop

2308
01:53:45,599 --> 01:53:52,800
sign more than overall reduction of uh

2309
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:55,360
of the speed l in that are are in

2310
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:57,280
particular so I'm wondering like through

2311
01:53:55,360 --> 01:54:00,440
the course of that traffic study that we

2312
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:03,599
did um did it meet the requirements for

2313
01:54:00,440 --> 01:54:05,639
maybe a stop sign there instead of um

2314
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:08,679
asward doing this more comprehensive

2315
01:54:05,639 --> 01:54:10,360
piece yeah so that's one thing stop

2316
01:54:08,679 --> 01:54:12,079
signs are not on my list of tools

2317
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:15,400
because they're not a tool and we did

2318
01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:18,320
look at it um it did not meet the the

2319
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:20,040
Merit for a stop sign um I have a hard

2320
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,560
time I talked about this with Brian and

2321
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:25,400
I've talked about this a little bit

2322
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:27,960
internally is that um as a Judicial body

2323
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:30,079
of the city of SKC you are in your own

2324
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:32,280
right to put a stop sign up it is in the

2325
01:54:30,079 --> 01:54:34,719
city of connected however as the city

2326
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:37,520
engineer with a license I cannot sign

2327
01:54:34,719 --> 01:54:39,920
off that it would be a compliant

2328
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,920
mutcd stop sign however I've sent

2329
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,480
articles out municipalities have done

2330
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,040
this you know people have said that it's

2331
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,079
in the greater need of the community

2332
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:49,719
that we put this up and that that's what

2333
01:54:47,079 --> 01:54:51,760
we go we go forward with as a stop sign

2334
01:54:49,719 --> 01:54:53,920
um we would prefer uh Brian and I were

2335
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,520
talking about just a little bit is that

2336
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:58,239
um now with this once again another tool

2337
01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:01,560
is that Kings Road with the dot measures

2338
01:54:58,239 --> 01:55:03,639
was not able to technically be reduced

2339
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:06,000
but with the federal measures we now can

2340
01:55:03,639 --> 01:55:08,599
reduce the speed on King's Road um we

2341
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:11,079
did just put up a new signage on Kings

2342
01:55:08,599 --> 01:55:13,199
Road slow signage on the Kings Road last

2343
01:55:11,079 --> 01:55:14,960
week so we would like to see that

2344
01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:16,920
between the reduction of the speed limit

2345
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:18,840
on that road if it's recommended which

2346
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:21,040
most likely will go that route and then

2347
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:23,119
the new signage what what happens there

2348
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,880
we did put the crosswalk there we have

2349
01:55:23,119 --> 01:55:26,360
tried to make it you know narrower we do

2350
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,840
have the guide rail you know we're we're

2351
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,520
trying to put all the tools up there

2352
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:33,239
that we can I believe the police have

2353
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:34,880
had radar signs up there um but the stop

2354
01:55:33,239 --> 01:55:36,560
sign is not one of them that's why it

2355
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:39,560
was specifically left out and it has

2356
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,079
been discussed a couple of times K says

2357
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:42,400
the speed tables wouldn't be appropriate

2358
01:55:41,079 --> 01:55:46,040
for King's Road I don't think speed

2359
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,040
tables would be appropriate for K's Road

2360
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:53,119
no what have we done or is there more we

2361
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:56,280
could do on in the way of public ation

2362
01:55:53,119 --> 01:56:00,040
and put the message out there speed

2363
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:01,480
kills and other campaign you know one of

2364
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,800
the groups that I'm involved in that I

2365
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,199
didn't have up there I actually meant to

2366
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,280
is like the governor's traffic safety

2367
01:56:04,199 --> 01:56:08,360
board and some of the county sheriffs

2368
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:10,280
and they do a lot of they uh I was on

2369
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:13,239
the uh committee that started the

2370
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:16,000
CNBC uh campaign and that started with h

2371
01:56:13,239 --> 01:56:17,920
money for Central Avenue 8 years ago and

2372
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:21,360
that's been pretty successful I mean if

2373
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:23,000
we need materials the state uh the state

2374
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:26,440
office will give us all the materials I

2375
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:27,760
know that uh SPD does um I don't want to

2376
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,599
call it fake ticketing I don't know the

2377
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,920
word that they call but they they go out

2378
01:56:29,599 --> 01:56:32,920
and they'll do like an educational

2379
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:34,199
ticketing thing uh also the sheriff's

2380
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:36,079
office has done that where they'll

2381
01:56:34,199 --> 01:56:38,480
actually if they catch you jaywalking

2382
01:56:36,079 --> 01:56:40,560
they'll give you like a CNBC ticket

2383
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:43,079
which is kind of like a a fake ticket to

2384
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:45,119
say Hey you know this is a a violation

2385
01:56:43,079 --> 01:56:46,599
you should cross in the crosswalk things

2386
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:49,719
like that so like I said there are a lot

2387
01:56:46,599 --> 01:56:51,760
of Partners out there um um one of the

2388
01:56:49,719 --> 01:56:53,840
areas that the sheriff's office at are

2389
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,880
are monthly meeting was is you know up

2390
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:58,079
Division Street which was on the list by

2391
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,440
the McDonald's and the bus stop you know

2392
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:01,280
that is a really heavy area for

2393
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,480
pedestrian traffic they go up there they

2394
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:05,719
do targeted areas up there to try to do

2395
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,159
enforcement and education uh events

2396
01:57:05,719 --> 01:57:09,360
that's one of the also the reasons that

2397
01:57:07,159 --> 01:57:11,280
we're looking at working with the CDTA

2398
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,199
which is why it's up there to try to you

2399
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,000
know move the bus stops to try to stop

2400
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:18,000
all the different things there because

2401
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,679
we have people running around buses um

2402
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,639
but education would be great I I don't

2403
01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:23,320
know if you wanted to well yeah I I I

2404
01:57:21,639 --> 01:57:25,000
did not have a chance I was hoping to do

2405
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:27,599
that before today's meeting but one of

2406
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:29,800
the ideas which I thought was I was

2407
01:57:27,599 --> 01:57:31,920
trying to think outside the box and be a

2408
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,960
little creative I ran it by Chris cuz I

2409
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,480
thought maybe this is a little too wacky

2410
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,760
Chris actually didn't think it was too

2411
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:40,280
wacky so um you know I don't know if

2412
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,880
anyone has ever taken a defensive

2413
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:44,760
driving class um I took my last one

2414
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:47,239
during covid when we first started at

2415
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:49,119
covid um you know sitting there I

2416
01:57:47,239 --> 01:57:50,920
figured okay don't really have a lot

2417
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:53,520
that I can do today I'm going to do this

2418
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:55,480
defensive driving I definitely noticed a

2419
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,679
change in my behavior after I took that

2420
01:57:55,480 --> 01:58:00,440
defensive driving class so one of the

2421
01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:03,320
ideas that I had was trying to see

2422
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:04,440
whether I could get um a defensive

2423
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:08,000
driving

2424
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:09,400
course taught for free so in other words

2425
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,400
like you can get defensive driving

2426
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:14,520
through AAA you can get it in a number

2427
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:17,560
of places I was hoping that maybe I

2428
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:19,280
could get it so that either we would

2429
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:21,480
think about putting a certain pot of

2430
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:22,880
money together when we do our budgeting

2431
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:25,520
for

2432
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:27,719
2025 um where maybe we would pay for

2433
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,719
defensive driving or if I could just get

2434
01:58:27,719 --> 01:58:33,119
somebody to actually donate the

2435
01:58:29,719 --> 01:58:35,280
defensive driving um that if we could do

2436
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:37,560
that as an incentive to get people to

2437
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:40,800
take the defensive driving that at least

2438
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:43,239
it might be one dent in that was no pun

2439
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:45,560
intended but one way of trying to get

2440
01:58:43,239 --> 01:58:48,480
people to think more about their driving

2441
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:51,440
habits um I know that um when I first

2442
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:53,480
started this back in August of 2022 the

2443
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:56,320
first people called were the were you

2444
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:57,880
know the chief of police because I did

2445
01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:00,480
you know didn't know if it was just

2446
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:02,320
crazy the crazy idea also around

2447
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,960
lowering the speed limit the chief

2448
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:08,079
really felt that if we could lower the

2449
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:10,560
speed limit um that maybe we'd get

2450
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:13,760
people going 30 if the speed limit was

2451
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:16,440
25 it also might be easier for them to

2452
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:20,639
um again if people were going um let's

2453
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:23,400
say 40 in a 25 mph speed zone the police

2454
01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:25,239
have more latitude in terms of ticketing

2455
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:27,000
um which hopefully then would also be a

2456
01:59:25,239 --> 01:59:29,440
deterrent and might help to change some

2457
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:31,119
of these behavior um because I I

2458
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:33,840
definitely agree Chris mentioned this

2459
01:59:31,119 --> 01:59:35,920
earlier that out of those those ease

2460
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,880
that we've heard about now several times

2461
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:40,639
over the last couple of years education

2462
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:45,040
and behavioral change is going to be the

2463
01:59:40,639 --> 01:59:46,520
toughest part of this um so um that was

2464
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,159
that was the one idea that I had shared

2465
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:49,320
with Chris the other day and I will

2466
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:51,320
bring this up it is not in the

2467
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,560
presentation but stay tuned for future

2468
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,360
presentations cuz it's going to be a

2469
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:57,719
bigger issue is that there's a new

2470
01:59:54,360 --> 02:00:01,440
buzzword out there called micr mobility

2471
01:59:57,719 --> 02:00:06,000
and micr Mobility is electronic scooters

2472
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:09,480
skateboards Halls Wheels bikes it's all

2473
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:12,560
of the things that go 30 mph and are not

2474
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:14,719
registered vehicles and I don't want to

2475
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:18,880
you know that's an entirely side

2476
02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:21,079
conversation but it is also part of this

2477
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:25,679
because it's unregistered vehicles at

2478
02:00:21,079 --> 02:00:29,159
speeds on sidewalks on roads and it does

2479
02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:30,960
affect uh traffic and safety so as a

2480
02:00:29,159 --> 02:00:33,040
region we bring it up we're trying to

2481
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:35,040
figure it out I know SPD has a hard time

2482
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:37,000
with it because there's classifications

2483
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:39,599
there's a lot of things that go into it

2484
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:41,639
but that eventually will be up here and

2485
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:42,920
I don't know what the pool will be but

2486
02:00:41,639 --> 02:00:44,520
more and more you're going to be seeing

2487
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,599
that and that that's the term of it is

2488
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:48,520
called micromobility yeah that

2489
02:00:46,599 --> 02:00:52,159
definitely has to be something that we

2490
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:55,760
take on as well moving forward any of

2491
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:57,159
questions or comments M so Mr Wallen um

2492
02:00:55,760 --> 02:01:00,040
so you talked about a couple things that

2493
02:00:57,159 --> 02:01:01,800
could happen and our our real goal that

2494
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,560
we were trying to get to 25 mil an hour

2495
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,840
but you also talked about these speed

2496
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:08,280
tables so incrementally is there

2497
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,480
anything that we can do to can and the

2498
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,639
defensive driving actually I like I

2499
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,159
don't know about the money

2500
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:15,599
car but um I think that's a good idea

2501
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:17,440
and I'm wondering if insur if it impact

2502
02:01:15,599 --> 02:01:19,040
people's Insurance in a positive way

2503
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:21,119
well it would I mean if you take

2504
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:22,560
defensive driving for 3 years after you

2505
02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:24,199
take it

2506
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,679
you get a discount on your insurance so

2507
02:01:24,199 --> 02:01:29,920
that can be their incentive as

2508
02:01:26,679 --> 02:01:31,360
well we don't have can't give you money

2509
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:33,520
it definitely will take your insurance

2510
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:36,119
down so uh incrementally are there

2511
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:38,920
things we can do in in what short time

2512
02:01:36,119 --> 02:01:40,800
frame in terms of the speed tables and

2513
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,840
also the um lowering the speed limit I

2514
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,800
know you didn't want to do that

2515
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:46,119
individually but yeah so lowering the

2516
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,639
speed limit I mean I would really like I

2517
02:01:46,119 --> 02:01:49,040
know that you could just have patience

2518
02:01:47,639 --> 02:01:50,760
and bear with me as I go through with

2519
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:52,520
the engineers and Brian because it's

2520
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,639
there and we will we'll get and I I can

2521
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:56,280
even run some of this through them to

2522
02:01:53,639 --> 02:01:59,159
see if we can do it faster but in the

2523
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:01,119
shorter term things that we can control

2524
02:01:59,159 --> 02:02:05,560
um you know take Dwayne Avenue with the

2525
02:02:01,119 --> 02:02:07,920
speed table so I showed you the results

2526
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,480
I don't have any complaints we do not

2527
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:12,520
have any permanent speed tables in the

2528
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:14,440
area I would prefer that if we were to

2529
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:17,520
put speed tables in they come with some

2530
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:19,920
kind of a documented support from the

2531
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:22,199
council that says that you are okay with

2532
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:23,599
the implementation of these speed tables

2533
02:02:22,199 --> 02:02:26,159
and that's kind of what I'm looking for

2534
02:02:23,599 --> 02:02:28,239
is the procedures in it I do not believe

2535
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:30,280
and I can look that there's anything in

2536
02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:32,560
the city Charter that says that the city

2537
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:34,040
engineer can put speet tables in I'm

2538
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:37,400
sure you could find some language that

2539
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:39,320
says anything in his discretion but I

2540
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:40,760
would just like to have the support like

2541
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:43,360
you know if we're going to move forward

2542
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:45,719
if we want to put that in permanently we

2543
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:47,440
can move forward with in the spring I

2544
02:02:45,719 --> 02:02:48,920
know it's almost po but putting those in

2545
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:50,920
permanently coming up with standards

2546
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:52,960
we're going to need markers on either

2547
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:54,159
side for plows right we're going to need

2548
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:57,040
reflectors we're going to need to make

2549
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:58,840
sure you know but to that could be a

2550
02:02:57,040 --> 02:03:01,639
step that the the committee can take or

2551
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:04,520
the council can take as well as if we

2552
02:03:01,639 --> 02:03:06,960
want to entertain a form like Rochester

2553
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:09,159
if we want to entertain allowing us to

2554
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:11,159
move forward internally with identifying

2555
02:03:09,159 --> 02:03:13,119
a couple other locations and and doing

2556
02:03:11,159 --> 02:03:15,840
programs like this to to do that and

2557
02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:19,159
coming back because right now that was a

2558
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:21,119
was a test it was a pilot program pilot

2559
02:03:19,159 --> 02:03:23,520
program's over it didn't seem effective

2560
02:03:21,119 --> 02:03:26,199
I just don't know how move forward any

2561
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:28,440
other questions or comments Tor uh thank

2562
02:03:26,199 --> 02:03:30,800
you yes thank you Chris um so I know

2563
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:32,280
since we purchased the first one you had

2564
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:35,079
mentioned in Prior meetings that the

2565
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:38,280
cost has gone up substantially with the

2566
02:03:35,079 --> 02:03:40,840
um with the with the cost of them how

2567
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:42,199
much of the speed tables themselves okay

2568
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:44,119
they're not I don't I don't I wouldn't

2569
02:03:42,199 --> 02:03:45,520
worry about the cost of them necessarily

2570
02:03:44,119 --> 02:03:47,280
I mean if we're going to buy another set

2571
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,480
of them we have a set we just need to

2572
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:51,119
find the right spot to put them in based

2573
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,840
off of this information and I can I can

2574
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:54,960
bring that to you

2575
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:56,599
um but when they do work you know

2576
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,400
because this will be

2577
02:03:56,599 --> 02:04:00,960
a I'm I'm I don't know how to to control

2578
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:03,360
the floodgates necessarily if you were

2579
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:04,760
to go to Albany and go into the Arbor

2580
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:07,520
Hill Neighborhood I believe they spent a

2581
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:09,199
million dollars putting in speed tables

2582
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,239
throughout the Arbor Hill Neighborhood

2583
02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:13,400
so once again is that is a commitment of

2584
02:04:11,239 --> 02:04:15,880
City funds that currently you don't have

2585
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:18,000
in front of you so if we're going to do

2586
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:20,320
that you're going to say Chris we

2587
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:23,040
usually Bond you a million5 dollars to

2588
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,400
pave City roads we want to take a

2589
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:26,520
percentage of that and we want you to

2590
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:28,480
put it in the speed tables all right

2591
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:30,599
there's no funding source out there that

2592
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:32,679
I'm aware of I can see if H funding is

2593
02:04:30,599 --> 02:04:35,040
available but you know everything we do

2594
02:04:32,679 --> 02:04:37,520
has a repercussion from somewhere else

2595
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:40,239
and if we do Dwayne Avenue what's to say

2596
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:41,800
that a neighboring Street will not want

2597
02:04:40,239 --> 02:04:43,719
something similar if you're going to see

2598
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:46,280
it and then that's how you know when

2599
02:04:43,719 --> 02:04:48,280
Arbor Hill they did multiple streets so

2600
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:49,599
we have one it was a school zone it was

2601
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:52,320
picked because it was cut through it's a

2602
02:04:49,599 --> 02:04:54,280
good Street um you know Tri Street which

2603
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,679
is right identified next to it that

2604
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:57,320
traffic cing is going to be different

2605
02:04:55,679 --> 02:04:59,239
that traffic cing is we're narrowing the

2606
02:04:57,320 --> 02:05:00,719
road significantly we're putting that

2607
02:04:59,239 --> 02:05:02,480
cycle track and you know we're going to

2608
02:05:00,719 --> 02:05:05,239
be doing landscaping so that's a

2609
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:07,599
different type of

2610
02:05:05,239 --> 02:05:08,960
traffic um I usually like reserving my

2611
02:05:07,599 --> 02:05:10,199
questions to the end but because they're

2612
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:12,079
related can you talk around the

2613
02:05:10,199 --> 02:05:13,719
turnaround time of installing them and

2614
02:05:12,079 --> 02:05:16,520
then any maintenance issues that you

2615
02:05:13,719 --> 02:05:20,840
identified on this test of installing a

2616
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:23,679
speed HP I do not think they would be um

2617
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:25,480
a long lead time to install it is uh

2618
02:05:23,679 --> 02:05:27,599
typically they're asphalt we could look

2619
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:30,000
to do it in the concrete um but I

2620
02:05:27,599 --> 02:05:32,520
believe albes are all asphalt um if we

2621
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:34,159
were to design and put out a bid we

2622
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,880
could probably put them in this year but

2623
02:05:34,159 --> 02:05:37,559
I don't know if that would be something

2624
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:39,159
that we would put it in just in time for

2625
02:05:37,559 --> 02:05:41,719
clouds

2626
02:05:39,159 --> 02:05:44,119
um but it is literally you would Mill

2627
02:05:41,719 --> 02:05:46,440
out a keyway in the location then you

2628
02:05:44,119 --> 02:05:48,559
would put um probably some dowels to get

2629
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:50,639
it down and then you would just form it

2630
02:05:48,559 --> 02:05:52,040
with asphalt which is hand work but it

2631
02:05:50,639 --> 02:05:53,920
could be done and then then we'd have to

2632
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:55,239
see if we' like to paint it and that was

2633
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,840
something then we'd have to maintain the

2634
02:05:55,239 --> 02:06:00,239
paint but we definitely would want if

2635
02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:02,280
you were to go to um Colony they have

2636
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:03,840
indicators on both sides and then they

2637
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:05,800
have a sign ahead that says you know

2638
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:07,239
bump ahead you know we just have to put

2639
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:10,679
that package together similar to a

2640
02:06:07,239 --> 02:06:13,000
school zone so we have a speed table

2641
02:06:10,679 --> 02:06:14,400
package and it it anything can be done

2642
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:16,639
it's really I mean this is pretty

2643
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:19,639
standard to uh the mutcd books and

2644
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:20,960
things for when you have it um so I'm

2645
02:06:19,639 --> 02:06:22,199
not I'm not too concerned about it it's

2646
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:25,760
just when

2647
02:06:22,199 --> 02:06:27,199
and uh you know one I I can afford a

2648
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:29,360
dozen now we're starting to get into

2649
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:31,199
impacting other things in the budget

2650
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,679
then uh just the second part of that the

2651
02:06:31,199 --> 02:06:34,559
maintenance issues does it permanently

2652
02:06:32,679 --> 02:06:35,960
alter like the Integrity of the roadway

2653
02:06:34,559 --> 02:06:38,199
or was that something that you didn't

2654
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:41,159
identify as an issue no it it would only

2655
02:06:38,199 --> 02:06:42,800
alter that that location spe bump would

2656
02:06:41,159 --> 02:06:44,159
be and it would be it would be intergal

2657
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:46,480
itself it would only be if we did

2658
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:48,320
concrete it would be you know its own

2659
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,719
its own thing which might which might be

2660
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,760
where we go with it to make it last a

2661
02:06:49,719 --> 02:06:54,280
little longer any other questions m p so

2662
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,840
it does seem first of all thank you I

2663
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,520
know how much time you put into this and

2664
02:06:55,840 --> 02:07:00,639
I really appreciate it um it would

2665
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:02,599
obviously have budget implications I'm

2666
02:07:00,639 --> 02:07:05,599
looking at Mr Ferrari because I know he

2667
02:07:02,599 --> 02:07:08,239
doesn't like budget implications um but

2668
02:07:05,599 --> 02:07:10,639
obviously um whether it was speed tables

2669
02:07:08,239 --> 02:07:15,719
whether it's enforcement whether it's um

2670
02:07:10,639 --> 02:07:18,800
you know uh the the the the lights all

2671
02:07:15,719 --> 02:07:20,880
the things on the lights I mean how are

2672
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,840
we able to come up with those sort of

2673
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:25,280
budget Pro jections in terms of what we

2674
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:28,360
would need to if we were looking at this

2675
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:30,400
comprehensively um as you just did um as

2676
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:32,360
opposed to just the speed limit um are

2677
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:35,000
we able to you know put that kind of

2678
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:38,040
packaging together in time for how it

2679
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:42,280
would impact the 2025 budget and what we

2680
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:42,280
would need to discuss for the 2021

2681
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:47,280
budget I would I would probably start

2682
02:07:45,639 --> 02:07:48,800
with talking with Bill and Albany I

2683
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:51,040
believe when you set up these speed

2684
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:53,280
cameras there is more of a agreement

2685
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:54,880
part of it where the company that you

2686
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,960
sign up to do it it's like a revenue

2687
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:59,280
share to pay for somebody operating it

2688
02:07:56,960 --> 02:08:02,559
so I would have to but I believe that's

2689
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,800
how that was set up um one of the things

2690
02:08:02,559 --> 02:08:05,000
I I'll share with this this was an

2691
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,960
interesting one that we would just have

2692
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:10,119
to work through the logistic is

2693
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:12,840
apparently there is a law that with this

2694
02:08:10,119 --> 02:08:15,199
school zone speed cameras they have to

2695
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:18,280
issue the tickets within 14 days or the

2696
02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:20,719
ticket is null and that is done by the

2697
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:23,079
police department so they're trying to

2698
02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:24,360
figure out you know the resources to

2699
02:08:23,079 --> 02:08:26,559
make sure that they can turn around

2700
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:28,159
those tickets in a time that's adequate

2701
02:08:26,559 --> 02:08:29,639
to be able to get it out so that's one

2702
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:31,719
of the things that they're looking at is

2703
02:08:29,639 --> 02:08:33,159
that okay they're anticipating that when

2704
02:08:31,719 --> 02:08:35,639
they get up there for the first couple

2705
02:08:33,159 --> 02:08:37,639
of months the tickets are going to go

2706
02:08:35,639 --> 02:08:39,679
high high generation of tickets and now

2707
02:08:37,639 --> 02:08:42,159
they have to go through get them all out

2708
02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:44,880
so that's a that is a a labor question

2709
02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:47,840
that they have right

2710
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:49,520
now and you know if you if you guide me

2711
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:51,440
that way I will ask the questions and

2712
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:55,199
get the information like I said this is

2713
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:56,520
a Sandbox that I play in so I I know to

2714
02:08:55,199 --> 02:08:59,199
get it but it's just what what do we

2715
02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:00,520
want to do and then like you said if we

2716
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:01,800
if we were to bond you know you're going

2717
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:04,920
to come to the capital budget and if I

2718
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:06,639
put a bond of $1.5 million which is what

2719
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:09,559
a typical amount is that we would do

2720
02:09:06,639 --> 02:09:11,840
annually um the speed tables can come

2721
02:09:09,559 --> 02:09:13,440
out of that bonded money um that is an

2722
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:15,440
equ to come out of that but once again

2723
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:17,360
is you're you're not doing something on

2724
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,760
a road otherwise you're you're you're

2725
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:20,440
allocating the money differently which

2726
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:24,119
is fine I mean it's all for the benefit

2727
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:26,639
of the city but there is no nothing else

2728
02:09:24,119 --> 02:09:30,639
new everything's getting allocated

2729
02:09:26,639 --> 02:09:30,639
different any other questions or

2730
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:35,760
comments so with that being said I just

2731
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:37,679
wanted to clarify one point you made you

2732
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:39,960
said with respect to lowering the speed

2733
02:09:37,679 --> 02:09:41,520
limit to 25 mph you were asking for

2734
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:44,000
additional time to see out that studies

2735
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:45,480
the of the year is that correct yes so

2736
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,719
the recommendation from our city

2737
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:49,599
engineer is to pause and allow him time

2738
02:09:47,719 --> 02:09:52,000
to continue that work how does everyone

2739
02:09:49,599 --> 02:09:54,679
feel about that

2740
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:56,880
my hair has only gotten grayer no only

2741
02:09:54,679 --> 02:10:03,000
kidding but um I mean if we need to do

2742
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:05,840
that we need to do that um but um yeah I

2743
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:07,559
mean um but to your point Miss Patrick

2744
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:09,800
uh we have a proven method that does

2745
02:10:07,559 --> 02:10:12,599
work so those speed tables I I know

2746
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:14,840
we're trying to weigh costs as we enter

2747
02:10:12,599 --> 02:10:17,079
another budget season but I think with

2748
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:20,119
respect to loss of life I think this is

2749
02:10:17,079 --> 02:10:21,400
not uh a complicated issue I think it's

2750
02:10:20,119 --> 02:10:23,639
more or less just how we make those

2751
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,840
concessions with our other ask that we

2752
02:10:23,639 --> 02:10:27,199
have with regards to the budget in the

2753
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:29,599
city and then asking our residents to

2754
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:32,000
understand if we are positioning money

2755
02:10:29,599 --> 02:10:34,040
to affect change in this one area that

2756
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:36,079
might come at an expense to others

2757
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:37,079
because we cannot view everything uh so

2758
02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:39,559
he making sure there's a lot of

2759
02:10:37,079 --> 02:10:41,679
realization and understanding that the

2760
02:10:39,559 --> 02:10:43,520
enforcement and Engineering are aspects

2761
02:10:41,679 --> 02:10:46,119
that we can control but that education

2762
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:48,239
is a collective

2763
02:10:46,119 --> 02:10:49,840
responsibility so we can take these

2764
02:10:48,239 --> 02:10:51,760
steps but if the community is not

2765
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:53,360
working collaboratively with us

2766
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:56,079
and it will all be for and we'll be

2767
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:58,719
addressing the next micro mobility issue

2768
02:10:56,079 --> 02:11:00,040
as it comes in a decade or so oh that's

2769
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:04,000
going to come soon yeah sooner than a

2770
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:06,199
DEC that's way sooner than yeah

2771
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:08,559
um would you like me to move forward

2772
02:11:06,199 --> 02:11:11,559
with trying to create a city of connty

2773
02:11:08,559 --> 02:11:11,559
procedure

2774
02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:15,280
yes I say yes

2775
02:11:16,119 --> 02:11:20,400
yes I say

2776
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:22,760
yes and then I did want to get a

2777
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:24,960
clarification you said if we elected to

2778
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:27,280
today we could put aop a stop sign on

2779
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:29,159
King's Road the issue was whether it be

2780
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:31,639
effective or not can you just clarify or

2781
02:11:29,159 --> 02:11:34,159
did I not hear that

2782
02:11:31,639 --> 02:11:36,440
correctly be

2783
02:11:34,159 --> 02:11:39,559
effective well you said in the beginning

2784
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:42,400
so I I I know I I'm trying to be nice

2785
02:11:39,559 --> 02:11:44,880
and uh what was the word neutral with

2786
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:47,199
the word is that the the article like I

2787
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:49,079
sent out regarding the the town Bor and

2788
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:50,480
bson Spa whatever their elected body is

2789
02:11:49,079 --> 02:11:53,559
is that they thought it was in the best

2790
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:55,480
interest of the town and for town Safety

2791
02:11:53,559 --> 02:11:57,199
to put that stop sign there even though

2792
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:59,239
they acknowledge that it did not meet

2793
02:11:57,199 --> 02:12:02,000
the criteria laid out by the

2794
02:11:59,239 --> 02:12:03,360
mutcd and that was how it was worded and

2795
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:05,400
that's how it was stated as they wanted

2796
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:08,360
to put it there because they felt it was

2797
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,920
in the best interest of the Town um and

2798
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:11,719
that's what I am saying is that you know

2799
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,040
there's a lot of we just went through

2800
02:12:11,719 --> 02:12:15,040
some language here and I was reading out

2801
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:17,320
on federal highways that states that the

2802
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:19,000
jurisdiction ultimately has authority

2803
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:21,880
over their jurisdiction you know the

2804
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:23,440
mutcd is a manual it's not they're not

2805
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,480
going to come out and cut it down in the

2806
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:27,040
Boston spot article the dot acknowledged

2807
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:29,639
that they would not put that stop sign

2808
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:32,079
there but that the town has the

2809
02:12:29,639 --> 02:12:35,679
authority to do so me being a licensed

2810
02:12:32,079 --> 02:12:38,360
engineer I would prefer not to do things

2811
02:12:35,679 --> 02:12:41,040
contrary to the manual that you know I

2812
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:42,599
want to school for so that is why you

2813
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:45,440
know we we're I'm just trying I'm not

2814
02:12:42,599 --> 02:12:46,800
trying to to say that it's not possible

2815
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:47,880
it's impossible for you to do it if you

2816
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:49,079
do it you're going to get arrested

2817
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:50,840
they're going to tear it down it's

2818
02:12:49,079 --> 02:12:52,480
impossible to do I'm just saying that

2819
02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:55,040
you not get a letter of recommendation

2820
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:56,639
for me to put that stop sign there

2821
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,920
because it's not not one of the tools

2822
02:12:56,639 --> 02:13:01,280
it's not one of the things that we do as

2823
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:04,360
Engineers to control traffic but if you

2824
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:06,079
believe it is affected it has been done

2825
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:08,639
you will find stop signs you will find

2826
02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:11,559
signals in this city that have been put

2827
02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:13,800
up for reasons like this so that that's

2828
02:13:11,559 --> 02:13:15,320
where I'm trying to to put it the power

2829
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:17,400
can still be at this table it does not

2830
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:18,960
have to come through me to to do

2831
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,639
something like this you know we have

2832
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:24,159
signal superintendent we have the

2833
02:13:20,639 --> 02:13:25,239
ability to do things and they that's

2834
02:13:24,159 --> 02:13:26,880
what I kind of just wanted to make sure

2835
02:13:25,239 --> 02:13:28,520
everybody's aware of is that by me

2836
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,280
saying that I don't support it does not

2837
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,760
mean saying that anyone is going to come

2838
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:34,159
and say it is

2839
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:36,280
illegal thank you uh any other questions

2840
02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:37,920
there Mr Tor oh yes just relating to

2841
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:40,199
that thank you um what would be the

2842
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:42,960
legality of if we you know assigned a

2843
02:13:40,199 --> 02:13:46,800
stop sign to King's Road um and there's

2844
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:51,639
a got terrible accident there and it's

2845
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:51,639
not under any guidelines

2846
02:13:53,760 --> 02:14:01,400
I it's it's got to be the

2847
02:13:57,639 --> 02:14:01,400
guidelines for stop

2848
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,800
sign

2849
02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:10,800
yeah to make it legal to make it legal

2850
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,760
well I think it would be a mute point

2851
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:14,840
also I don't see an Ence of as

2852
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:16,360
completely disregarding or contradicting

2853
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:19,159
your

2854
02:14:16,360 --> 02:14:21,400
recommendation Mr those type of

2855
02:14:19,159 --> 02:14:23,960
situations

2856
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:26,559
hypothetically as opposed to any

2857
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:28,520
particular site you put a stop sign up

2858
02:14:26,559 --> 02:14:31,079
where it's not recommended or the

2859
02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:33,880
studies don't support it you're going to

2860
02:14:31,079 --> 02:14:35,639
tend to see an increase in the rear end

2861
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:39,440
collisions you're going to get they may

2862
02:14:35,639 --> 02:14:42,239
not be horrific accidents but you get

2863
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:45,159
personal injury accidents you get damage

2864
02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:48,520
to cars you get people who do suffer

2865
02:14:45,159 --> 02:14:51,360
some uh injury as a result of somebody

2866
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:55,480
stopping they're not geared to stop they

2867
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:59,559
run into them and those things also over

2868
02:14:55,480 --> 02:15:03,199
time tend to decrease but the initial

2869
02:14:59,559 --> 02:15:06,559
placement of it tends to create more

2870
02:15:03,199 --> 02:15:09,760
events than not having it there thank

2871
02:15:06,559 --> 02:15:12,840
you Mr Mayor thanks Mr yeah regarding

2872
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:15,320
the table in you know traffic table cing

2873
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:18,480
device um I would recommend that maybe

2874
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:21,040
you do it by ordinance giving the city

2875
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:23,079
engineer the authority to uh develop a

2876
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:25,400
policy that from time to time will be

2877
02:15:23,079 --> 02:15:29,360
updated according to the standards of

2878
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:32,400
the uh Traffic Safety uh community that

2879
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:35,040
way it's it gives him the city engineer

2880
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:37,520
flexibility to update that anytime it is

2881
02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:40,280
updated it's brought back to the council

2882
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:41,840
but just to delegate that and that if

2883
02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:44,960
you're being Comm if you're committing

2884
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:48,880
to that table those traffic humming

2885
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:50,639
devices um in the in the budget process

2886
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:52,239
um that that would probably be a good

2887
02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:54,159
time to do it because then you're really

2888
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:56,199
making the commitment you're making

2889
02:15:54,159 --> 02:15:58,599
we're going to spend x amount of dollars

2890
02:15:56,199 --> 02:16:01,040
for these types of devices and as such

2891
02:15:58,599 --> 02:16:04,639
we're delegating or not delegating we're

2892
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:07,280
empowering or clarifying or uh clearly

2893
02:16:04,639 --> 02:16:09,440
setting forth that the uh the city

2894
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:11,880
engineer has the authority and working

2895
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:15,719
with the signals people and the police

2896
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:18,119
department to develop this um standards

2897
02:16:15,719 --> 02:16:19,920
that will be PR presented to the council

2898
02:16:18,119 --> 02:16:22,119
and updated from time to time it's

2899
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:25,239
necessary notice to the

2900
02:16:22,119 --> 02:16:26,840
council so always like asking before

2901
02:16:25,239 --> 02:16:29,639
designor ass signing work is that a

2902
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:32,559
product your office can take on creating

2903
02:16:29,639 --> 02:16:35,679
that that language that

2904
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:39,040
narrative creating the language

2905
02:16:35,679 --> 02:16:41,200
just the ordinance and and regarding a

2906
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:44,040
policy we can work with the the engineer

2907
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:45,840
office regarding that that we have a as

2908
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:48,080
as Mr wall indicated there's a good

2909
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:50,519
template to work work off from the city

2910
02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:51,880
of Rochester that made this need to be

2911
02:16:50,519 --> 02:16:54,200
adjust

2912
02:16:51,880 --> 02:16:56,880
so we can work

2913
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:59,200
with thank you any other questions or

2914
02:16:56,880 --> 02:17:00,439
comments uh so at this point the only

2915
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:02,240
measure we're going to move forward with

2916
02:17:00,439 --> 02:17:04,479
is continuing with the study to outline

2917
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:08,319
some additional locations and I'm going

2918
02:17:04,479 --> 02:17:09,800
to update that update this um then

2919
02:17:08,319 --> 02:17:11,800
there's one other recommendation because

2920
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:13,519
I know we get emails like from people

2921
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:15,359
about the 25 miles hour we're going to

2922
02:17:13,519 --> 02:17:16,840
get them consistently I think that we

2923
02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:18,679
should put out some statement or

2924
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:20,280
something that we are working on because

2925
02:17:18,679 --> 02:17:21,359
we're being compared well Albany did it

2926
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:23,719
you haven't done it

2927
02:17:21,359 --> 02:17:25,399
so to your point Mr manini if we want to

2928
02:17:23,719 --> 02:17:27,359
let at least let people know the

2929
02:17:25,399 --> 02:17:30,160
direction we're moving in sure and and

2930
02:17:27,359 --> 02:17:33,840
once again Aly like I said they have

2931
02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:35,880
done it m but it's not done right so if

2932
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:38,719
we do everything and we and we hurry and

2933
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:41,040
we try to do it we we may close to them

2934
02:17:38,719 --> 02:17:42,599
so I mean right now if you'd like to

2935
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:43,960
that that's perfectly acceptable to say

2936
02:17:42,599 --> 02:17:45,200
that we're looking at it and then if we

2937
02:17:43,960 --> 02:17:46,920
say that we're looking at it we're going

2938
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:50,599
to do it then we're tied with all

2939
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:50,599
because they haven't done it

2940
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:56,080
okay well we'll put together our

2941
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:57,319
PSA from you to do that oh when don't

2942
02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:00,760
you like to see us back

2943
02:17:57,319 --> 02:18:03,880
on um well when when should we think

2944
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:06,000
about having you guys come back to us

2945
02:18:03,880 --> 02:18:07,679
it's give two cycles and we'll come back

2946
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:09,760
and I can do update to and we can put

2947
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:11,920
that on there Brian's already uh I just

2948
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:14,800
so he's already pulled data we already

2949
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:16,160
have data from uh PD to try to recommend

2950
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:18,599
a second spot and then that'll give me

2951
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:20,479
some time to put together our own format

2952
02:18:18,599 --> 02:18:22,040
with that and then Mr O'Brien can put

2953
02:18:20,479 --> 02:18:25,040
together his language and you can see

2954
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:26,760
what we what we've gotten but uh I think

2955
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,359
kind of trying to do it this way maybe

2956
02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:30,519
with a couple of updates and this this

2957
02:18:28,359 --> 02:18:32,080
group approach I think that will be more

2958
02:18:30,519 --> 02:18:33,559
positive to trying to get some results

2959
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:35,240
out of it and then getting the

2960
02:18:33,559 --> 02:18:37,679
information into the the mayor's data

2961
02:18:35,240 --> 02:18:41,120
report um now that we we know what we're

2962
02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:43,479
looking for and then U I believe um both

2963
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:44,920
Brian and then Michael Hamilton are inas

2964
02:18:43,479 --> 02:18:46,439
but they both signed up for the clear

2965
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:48,719
database so they're going to start to

2966
02:18:46,439 --> 02:18:51,880
try to pull some GIS data so we'll see

2967
02:18:48,719 --> 02:18:53,920
what that has GIS geographic information

2968
02:18:51,880 --> 02:18:56,399
it's a mapping where we can try to see

2969
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:57,800
hot spots and things like that so a lot

2970
02:18:56,399 --> 02:19:00,280
of information out there is just how you

2971
02:18:57,800 --> 02:19:01,840
do that together thank you uh any other

2972
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,920
questions or comments to fall Public

2973
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:07,599
Safety I just do want to um reiterate

2974
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:09,319
that again my my goal was um I always

2975
02:19:07,599 --> 02:19:12,639
knew that there were going to be streets

2976
02:19:09,319 --> 02:19:15,040
that needed to remain at a higher speed

2977
02:19:12,639 --> 02:19:16,960
um given the traffic density and and

2978
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:18,920
traffic flow as well as the fact that

2979
02:19:16,960 --> 02:19:21,479
there will be districts like School

2980
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:23,840
District um that would be still at

2981
02:19:21,479 --> 02:19:27,319
probably 15 mph so I just wanted to

2982
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:30,120
clarify that I knew that um and that you

2983
02:19:27,319 --> 02:19:32,439
know and totally support that we have to

2984
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:34,639
do you know certain in certain areas

2985
02:19:32,439 --> 02:19:37,200
that will be higher speed and I would

2986
02:19:34,639 --> 02:19:41,000
just also like in I say in my defense of

2987
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:42,760
it but the when we were here previously

2988
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:45,399
these requests they seemed like a

2989
02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:49,240
mountain with the state guidelines which

2990
02:19:45,399 --> 02:19:51,439
were expc very explicit in perspective

2991
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:53,160
80 percentile they had five steps that

2992
02:19:51,439 --> 02:19:55,560
he would go through we generated a

2993
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:57,600
report that was 30 pages for one street

2994
02:19:55,560 --> 02:20:01,240
and then we generated 25 the federal

2995
02:19:57,600 --> 02:20:04,560
guidelines being simplified allow us to

2996
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:06,760
do things so much more streamlined and

2997
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:09,040
efficient that this is just what we're

2998
02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:11,160
doing with the consultant is just going

2999
02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:13,359
through checking everything making sure

3000
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:14,800
we're you know we have what we want even

3001
02:20:13,359 --> 02:20:16,680
the conversations that I had today with

3002
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:18,920
Brian to get to that map with just those

3003
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:21,359
two streets you know that's efficient

3004
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:22,840
like I said is I I don't want to ber it

3005
02:20:21,359 --> 02:20:25,240
but like this map here this is the only

3006
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:27,240
reason is that this particular map here

3007
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:30,880
is I just always remind myself that if

3008
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:33,479
we were a town or a village most of the

3009
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:35,520
what color streets are they the green

3010
02:20:33,479 --> 02:20:36,800
and the red streets we wouldn't be able

3011
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:38,760
to do it cuz they wouldn't be ours they

3012
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:40,840
would be somebody else's jurisdiction

3013
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:42,160
and so you know if they're not doing it

3014
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:43,319
they're not even entertaining it I just

3015
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:46,840
want to make sure that we're stepping

3016
02:20:43,319 --> 02:20:48,479
forward correctly um so you know have

3017
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:50,920
faith and I will I will be back and

3018
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:52,439
we'll have it could you send would you

3019
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:54,439
mind sending this I will send this out I

3020
02:20:52,439 --> 02:20:58,160
meant to I was trying to hand it out and

3021
02:20:54,439 --> 02:21:01,280
I did not have the but I will send it to

3022
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:03,160
to thank you thank you very very much

3023
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:04,680
any other questions thank you very much

3024
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:06,760
any other questions or concerns for

3025
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:08,080
public Committee hearing on may have a

3026
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:12,160
motion to

3027
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:14,680
adourn so second all those in favor I we

3028
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:16,439
are adjourned like to call to order the

3029
02:21:14,680 --> 02:21:18,000
finance committee we have two items on

3030
02:21:16,439 --> 02:21:19,640
the agenda tonight the first of which is

3031
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:22,280
a call for public hearing to collect

3032
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:25,479
feedback from City residents on the cdbg

3033
02:21:22,280 --> 02:21:29,880
CV funding to prevent prepare for and

3034
02:21:25,479 --> 02:21:29,880
respond to coronavirus projects Mr

3035
02:21:33,359 --> 02:21:40,000
P hi my name is Ban Kar I'm looking for

3036
02:21:36,399 --> 02:21:44,359
the second public hearing for the uh the

3037
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:48,080
C CD BG fund we got for the Corona virus

3038
02:21:44,359 --> 02:21:50,680
pray of prent and uh that to do with

3039
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:52,600
that so uh

3040
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:56,439
that's my ask

3041
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:58,640
is thank you any questions or comments

3042
02:21:56,439 --> 02:22:01,000
when was the first public heing

3043
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:03,000
he it should be uh in the beginning of

3044
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:03,880
2022 so Mar that was the first one of

3045
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:06,640
March

3046
02:22:03,880 --> 02:22:08,800
2022 and in terms of the reporting um

3047
02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:10,600
how does this work in terms of

3048
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:12,280
development and they being a part of the

3049
02:22:10,600 --> 02:22:14,880
reporting because I know they're very

3050
02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:16,359
involved with cdbg so this part of it is

3051
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:18,399
this also include something that

3052
02:22:16,359 --> 02:22:20,240
development has to report the HUD or is

3053
02:22:18,399 --> 02:22:23,840
this separate in the par from that it

3054
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:27,319
says I think it's a separate funding

3055
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:30,720
this 2.6 Grand million was for the

3056
02:22:27,319 --> 02:22:33,920
separate from what B had so this was for

3057
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:37,520
the deployment for the Wi-Fi you know

3058
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:40,240
and we did uh um work with Daily Gazette

3059
02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:42,240
for the community uh development news

3060
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:45,000
and things like that so probably can see

3061
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:47,319
the news in their Gip code on their area

3062
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:50,800
what is going on and also one was the

3063
02:22:47,319 --> 02:22:54,760
stay well that is uh we partnered with

3064
02:22:50,800 --> 02:22:57,399
hospital to put on um one device called

3065
02:22:54,760 --> 02:23:00,800
ion to see if somebody has fever or

3066
02:22:57,399 --> 02:23:03,520
anything like that for the uh immun

3067
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:07,200
deficiency uh

3068
02:23:03,520 --> 02:23:09,640
patient thank you any other questions or

3069
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:11,560
concerns yes Mr chairman it's just it's

3070
02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:13,600
part of the close out

3071
02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:15,920
process because of this pot of money

3072
02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:18,279
it's under the car's act they required

3073
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:19,600
if you do if you get the money one

3074
02:23:18,279 --> 02:23:21,279
public hearing and then this is the

3075
02:23:19,600 --> 02:23:24,800
close out publicar hearing so this is

3076
02:23:21,279 --> 02:23:28,720
part of the closeout PO process so um

3077
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:28,720
this is part of theed process back to

3078
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:35,880
the thank you uh any

3079
02:23:33,399 --> 02:23:40,720
others may have a

3080
02:23:35,880 --> 02:23:43,760
motion so Mo I'll second all those in

3081
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:47,479
favor the next item on the agenda is the

3082
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:49,439
ARA der foundation/ Empowerment Center

3083
02:23:47,479 --> 02:23:51,880
uh and car resource center fund

3084
02:23:49,439 --> 02:23:54,160
reallocation m

3085
02:23:51,880 --> 02:23:56,520
good evening mayor and City Council

3086
02:23:54,160 --> 02:23:58,520
Members before I move into my

3087
02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:00,520
legislative request Madam president okay

3088
02:23:58,520 --> 02:24:03,680
if I just share for a

3089
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:06,600
moment so we're here today talking about

3090
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:08,600
ARA next week I'm coming up on my one

3091
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:11,240
year here with the city of SKC so it had

3092
02:24:08,600 --> 02:24:13,720
me reflecting on that time my second day

3093
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:17,240
on the job Anthony and Dereck says hey

3094
02:24:13,720 --> 02:24:19,359
Alex do you remind on reporting on R for

3095
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:21,800
the city council and I came up here

3096
02:24:19,359 --> 02:24:23,479
really reading off of a paper trying to

3097
02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:25,160
figure it out so we have come a long way

3098
02:24:23,479 --> 02:24:27,760
in 12 months and I just wanted to say a

3099
02:24:25,160 --> 02:24:29,319
couple of thank yous um first off Mr

3100
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:31,080
Mayor thank you thank you thank you

3101
02:24:29,319 --> 02:24:33,120
thank you for your open door policy

3102
02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:35,520
where allow me the space to come into

3103
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:37,720
your office five out of five days to be

3104
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:39,760
my authentic self with your leadership

3105
02:24:37,720 --> 02:24:42,080
and guidance given to me I appreciate

3106
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:43,880
you to the city council members thank

3107
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:46,520
you thank you so much thank you for your

3108
02:24:43,880 --> 02:24:48,359
dedication to the residents and taxpayer

3109
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:49,920
here at the city and some of you thank

3110
02:24:48,359 --> 02:24:51,640
you for your support in more ways than

3111
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:53,960
one you know who you are thank you for

3112
02:24:51,640 --> 02:24:56,080
the calls the check in I truly

3113
02:24:53,960 --> 02:24:57,840
appreciate it to my colleagues here at

3114
02:24:56,080 --> 02:25:00,040
the city of SKC who have made the

3115
02:24:57,840 --> 02:25:02,439
transition in this role and helping me

3116
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:04,960
get acclimated to support answering all

3117
02:25:02,439 --> 02:25:07,600
of my silly questions Chris Wallen Chris

3118
02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:09,600
Lum Paul Leon Al the maintenance team

3119
02:25:07,600 --> 02:25:12,439
the Law Department ban and my buddies

3120
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:15,160
and it codes Molly the entire Finance

3121
02:25:12,439 --> 02:25:17,160
team my city clerk family the mayor's

3122
02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:20,120
office and their team as I would say l

3123
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:22,680
Dy and everybody and last but certainly

3124
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:24,960
not not leas my wonderful wonderful team

3125
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:27,279
in the department of development we have

3126
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:29,640
succeeded four HUD audits in the last 12

3127
02:25:27,279 --> 02:25:32,960
months revamped our collaborative tree

3128
02:25:29,640 --> 02:25:34,920
program managed over $17.1 million in

3129
02:25:32,960 --> 02:25:36,439
federal funding 14 million of that is

3130
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:38,720
the ARA funding that was pushed out to

3131
02:25:36,439 --> 02:25:40,760
our local organizations and nonprofits

3132
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:43,359
and the City of SKC the remainder is our

3133
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:45,319
cdbg home and ESG funding we've

3134
02:25:43,359 --> 02:25:47,800
identified the gaps in our processes

3135
02:25:45,319 --> 02:25:49,680
we've updated our internal processes and

3136
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:52,319
procedures for Community Development

3137
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:54,160
we've even implemented a new CRM system

3138
02:25:52,319 --> 02:25:56,200
to manage Our Community Development

3139
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:57,920
Federal fundings we've established

3140
02:25:56,200 --> 02:25:59,880
internal workflows including other

3141
02:25:57,920 --> 02:26:02,120
departments we have increased in

3142
02:25:59,880 --> 02:26:03,680
capacity which was a big deal we on

3143
02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:05,760
boarded two part-time Community

3144
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:07,760
Development team members a Community

3145
02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:10,319
Development supervisor and an assistant

3146
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:12,240
planner and most of all the morale in my

3147
02:26:10,319 --> 02:26:13,920
department is boosted and I just wanted

3148
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:15,880
to simply just take a couple minutes to

3149
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:17,520
thank each and every one of you for your

3150
02:26:15,880 --> 02:26:19,560
partnership to the community for giving

3151
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,600
me grace and patience as I learned in

3152
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:23,399
the Justin this we've been walking all

3153
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:25,760
year so get ready we're going to start

3154
02:26:23,399 --> 02:26:27,399
jogging so thank you and I I see the

3155
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:31,439
mayor is getting terized so I probably

3156
02:26:27,399 --> 02:26:34,200
should move on my legislative request

3157
02:26:31,439 --> 02:26:37,680
you're not going anywhere right

3158
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:41,600
no she's got she's got an official

3159
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:44,319
shirt um so today we are addressing arpa

3160
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:46,600
funding D Foundation Empowerment Center

3161
02:26:44,319 --> 02:26:49,040
and the Carver re resource center for

3162
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:52,520
reallocation the arpa allocation for

3163
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:56,880
Empowerment Center and D total $1

3164
02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:59,800
m75 $875,000 of that was allocated to

3165
02:26:56,880 --> 02:27:02,319
the Empowerment Center and2 200,000 was

3166
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:04,920
allocated to the DOR Foundation the

3167
02:27:02,319 --> 02:27:07,439
Carver Center had

3168
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:09,160
$1,250,000 allocated for their

3169
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:10,560
Rehabilitation and that was noted in

3170
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:12,080
resolution

3171
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:15,319
22-

3172
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:18,040
214 today the DOR Foundation is asking

3173
02:27:15,319 --> 02:27:20,560
to separate their $200,000 ARA

3174
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:24,439
allocation from the Empowerment Center

3175
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:24,439
in addition they are requesting

3176
02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:30,880
$139,400 from the Empowerment Center

3177
02:27:27,160 --> 02:27:34,160
allocation giving them a total of

3178
02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:37,160
$339,500 to be used for operating cost

3179
02:27:34,160 --> 02:27:39,720
at the 311 huet Street property the

3180
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:43,279
second ask is the Empowerment Center the

3181
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:46,080
Empowerment Center ARA allocation amount

3182
02:27:43,279 --> 02:27:47,120
that would be left if we give Derby the

3183
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:52,000
additional

3184
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:55,640
139,900 would be7 94

3185
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:59,760
sorry forgive me the the Empowerment

3186
02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:59,760
Center balance to date is

3187
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:11,160
$794,000 that they are asking for in

3188
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:14,439
addition to their 200k the balance for

3189
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,439
the Empowerment Center will be

3190
02:28:17,770 --> 02:28:20,940
[Music]

3191
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:22,359
$654,900

3192
02:28:20,940 --> 02:28:25,120
[Music]

3193
02:28:22,359 --> 02:28:27,399
$1,250,000 remain with the Carver Center

3194
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:30,880
in addition to the balance left from the

3195
02:28:27,399 --> 02:28:30,880
Empowerment Center of the

3196
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:40,920
$654,900

3197
02:28:37,319 --> 02:28:40,920
4$ 1,

3198
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:49,000
94786 thank you so the ask is the city

3199
02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:50,560
council consider the above that was just

3200
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:52,359
noted

3201
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:56,160
any questions or

3202
02:28:52,359 --> 02:28:59,000
comments inspect I fully support um the

3203
02:28:56,160 --> 02:29:00,399
idea of giving the Dory Foundation which

3204
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:06,640
I always mispronounced I thought it was

3205
02:29:00,399 --> 02:29:06,640
du but okay um the uh

3206
02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:12,720
$39,375

3207
02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:14,520
3 um we attend a couple a few of us

3208
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:17,600
attended the meeting the other day and

3209
02:29:14,520 --> 02:29:19,399
they are currently doing that work um so

3210
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:23,520
this would allow them to continue doing

3211
02:29:19,399 --> 02:29:25,279
that work so I do support that um and

3212
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:26,600
then obviously the next one is just what

3213
02:29:25,279 --> 02:29:29,840
the balance would then be for the

3214
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:32,520
Empowerment Center um I still have some

3215
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:34,720
questions about the the Carver um so I

3216
02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:37,760
wanted to hear a little bit more about

3217
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:39,960
um that perhaps from in terms of I know

3218
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:41,479
that in terms of the building and and

3219
02:29:39,960 --> 02:29:43,640
maybe from the mayor in terms of what

3220
02:29:41,479 --> 02:29:45,680
you what you thought um moving forward

3221
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:47,040
with that but I I really would like to

3222
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:50,120
support the I don't know if you want to

3223
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:51,880
do this separately or as one but well

3224
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:54,120
have to do sep resolutions for for the

3225
02:29:51,880 --> 02:29:55,520
um for J and then we'll have to discuss

3226
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:58,720
the other part of

3227
02:29:55,520 --> 02:30:00,279
it so I'd be happy to make them well I

3228
02:29:58,720 --> 02:30:04,720
think we going leave it open to others

3229
02:30:00,279 --> 02:30:07,000
to have questions or comments okay any

3230
02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:08,720
so I I attended the meeting where um D

3231
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:10,319
came and asked for their additional

3232
02:30:08,720 --> 02:30:11,560
funding and I just you know want to

3233
02:30:10,319 --> 02:30:13,359
point out that it's been a couple years

3234
02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:15,720
since we've been going down this road

3235
02:30:13,359 --> 02:30:18,319
with this funding and in the meantime

3236
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:19,560
we've we've funded multiple other

3237
02:30:18,319 --> 02:30:21,240
projects and so we're getting to the

3238
02:30:19,560 --> 02:30:24,479
point where we have to be at the end of

3239
02:30:21,240 --> 02:30:26,160
this year have to allocate These funds

3240
02:30:24,479 --> 02:30:27,200
in order for that for it to you know

3241
02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:29,359
otherwise we would not be able to

3242
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:31,680
allocate it to this agency so I'm in

3243
02:30:29,359 --> 02:30:34,160
full support of this keeping in mind

3244
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:36,920
that initial initially Zuri asked for a

3245
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:38,720
lot more money however in the process a

3246
02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:39,840
couple years ago they were put together

3247
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:42,399
with the empowerments that are not at

3248
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:45,399
their request but as as a decision in

3249
02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:47,560
development um prior so um to me for

3250
02:30:45,399 --> 02:30:49,399
them to ask now for this amount of money

3251
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:51,800
um which is still overall less than what

3252
02:30:49,399 --> 02:30:54,359
they were asking for and it's not stated

3253
02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:55,840
here but their project is uh cost is

3254
02:30:54,359 --> 02:30:57,520
more because they have to they already

3255
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:59,399
have a building but they have already

3256
02:30:57,520 --> 02:31:01,439
gone ahead and gotten the funding to do

3257
02:30:59,399 --> 02:31:03,800
the building initially they asked for us

3258
02:31:01,439 --> 02:31:05,319
for the funding but it took so long that

3259
02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:06,520
they um went to another source to make

3260
02:31:05,319 --> 02:31:08,600
sure that they had the money for the

3261
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:10,240
funding so we would have to change it in

3262
02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:12,279
that way as well because the use of the

3263
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:15,080
funds are now to do programming as

3264
02:31:12,279 --> 02:31:16,240
opposed to um rehabing the building

3265
02:31:15,080 --> 02:31:18,880
because but they've already got funding

3266
02:31:16,240 --> 02:31:22,439
for that so additional money and also

3267
02:31:18,880 --> 02:31:24,439
change of use the CH they in our in the

3268
02:31:22,439 --> 02:31:27,000
resolution previously done it was just

3269
02:31:24,439 --> 02:31:29,200
for programm and not for Rehab 200,000

3270
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:31,760
so we would okay but we just have to

3271
02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:35,120
increase it yes all right so I'm I'm

3272
02:31:31,760 --> 02:31:37,160
fully in support of of of that and for

3273
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:40,080
just for clarity the Empowerment Center

3274
02:31:37,160 --> 02:31:42,800
as it stands will not exist at 818

3275
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:43,920
Albany Street which was originally the

3276
02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:45,399
process and some of the money that

3277
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:47,840
you'll see that's gone from the budget

3278
02:31:45,399 --> 02:31:49,880
is went to into stabilizing the building

3279
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:51,920
so but that's not where it would happen

3280
02:31:49,880 --> 02:31:54,359
so the Empowerment Center would be a

3281
02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:57,439
part of the caror Cooperative project

3282
02:31:54,359 --> 02:31:59,600
that that's being worked on uh so it

3283
02:31:57,439 --> 02:32:01,479
doesn't exists in its own as a stand

3284
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,600
alone because you know people that's

3285
02:32:01,479 --> 02:32:04,960
been a question that's been kicked

3286
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:10,359
around but the services that they would

3287
02:32:04,960 --> 02:32:13,399
provide would exist within um the Carver

3288
02:32:10,359 --> 02:32:15,240
building so um and and and let me just

3289
02:32:13,399 --> 02:32:17,279
say I do support uh that we continue

3290
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:20,000
moving ahead and look for other funding

3291
02:32:17,279 --> 02:32:22,040
in order to do this project within with

3292
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:23,800
in Harbor just taking a look at the

3293
02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:25,520
community and the investment that we

3294
02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:27,120
need to have happen people have

3295
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:29,200
continually been asking I know it's been

3296
02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:31,200
a road and one organization who had it

3297
02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:33,000
and then they moved away from it that

3298
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:36,240
doesn't mean that the need has gone away

3299
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:38,680
the need still exists so um the city

3300
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:41,479
we've identified ways to support other

3301
02:32:38,680 --> 02:32:44,160
organizations and agencies so I suggest

3302
02:32:41,479 --> 02:32:46,439
that we strongly look at ways and uh to

3303
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:49,600
to uh support this organization and

3304
02:32:46,439 --> 02:32:52,200
agency in a community that's really um

3305
02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:55,160
that needs a service and Carver's been

3306
02:32:52,200 --> 02:32:56,960
staple know it's been a while and just

3307
02:32:55,160 --> 02:32:59,040
for the facts it wasn't people from the

3308
02:32:56,960 --> 02:33:01,399
community it wasn't under their control

3309
02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:02,720
that it went to its current state so

3310
02:33:01,399 --> 02:33:04,520
just want to state that as well but I

3311
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:06,080
would support us not only giving this

3312
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:08,279
funding but finding other ways to help

3313
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:09,960
them get other funding and and nailing

3314
02:33:08,279 --> 02:33:12,080
down I know they said they have other

3315
02:33:09,960 --> 02:33:14,040
funding sources but nailing those down

3316
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:16,160
and finding out what those gaps are so

3317
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:18,520
to see if there's ways that we can um

3318
02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:20,800
close the gap they said they had a a

3319
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:22,600
verbal commit from the county and I

3320
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:24,240
forgot the other source Sant Barb and

3321
02:33:22,600 --> 02:33:26,520
Santa Barbara's office so they said they

3322
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:28,200
had verbal commitments and I recommend

3323
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:29,600
rather than counting them out that we

3324
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:31,880
look at what those commitments are and

3325
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:33,800
get them strong commitments and then see

3326
02:33:31,880 --> 02:33:36,200
how we can fill a gap to move this that

3327
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:38,600
project forward as well any other

3328
02:33:36,200 --> 02:33:42,439
questions or comments on Mr yeah so I

3329
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:44,760
would absolutely U 100% support our and

3330
02:33:42,439 --> 02:33:46,600
I would just note that I think that even

3331
02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:48,920
this um their request is extremely

3332
02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:50,520
humble um I think that's it's a very

3333
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:52,920
humble request Bas of the work that

3334
02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:55,040
they've been doing already without us

3335
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:57,680
being able to get them the resources

3336
02:33:55,040 --> 02:33:59,479
that they needed in a timely manner one

3337
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:00,840
indicator of someone's dedication to a

3338
02:33:59,479 --> 02:34:02,760
project is that they're going to find a

3339
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:04,240
way and so they haven't been just

3340
02:34:02,760 --> 02:34:07,760
talking they've been really doing and I

3341
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:09,040
think that um you know not only do I

3342
02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:10,760
think that we need to support them with

3343
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:11,720
they're ass I think that you know I

3344
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:13,279
appreciate all the work that you're

3345
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:15,880
doing in your office we're so blessed to

3346
02:34:13,279 --> 02:34:17,600
have you here and I think a big part of

3347
02:34:15,880 --> 02:34:18,960
that work is partnering with them to

3348
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:20,720
even not only help them with the

3349
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:22,680
resources that we can give them but

3350
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:24,120
helping finding some more other

3351
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:26,160
resources to support the work they're

3352
02:34:24,120 --> 02:34:27,760
doing I think it's absolute no-brainer

3353
02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:29,000
and I would really struggle to find out

3354
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:30,920
why anybody else at the table would

3355
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:33,960
think anything

3356
02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:35,880
different any other question there yeah

3357
02:34:33,960 --> 02:34:38,040
I attended the meeting as well my

3358
02:34:35,880 --> 02:34:40,840
question is on the

3359
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:43,479
Carver there was some concern to have

3360
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:47,960
enough money for the building

3361
02:34:43,479 --> 02:34:50,399
rehab um operational costs are another

3362
02:34:47,960 --> 02:34:52,560
is not part of the request

3363
02:34:50,399 --> 02:34:58,479
and that's another conversation but the

3364
02:34:52,560 --> 02:35:02,880
building do we will this 1.25 plus the 6

3365
02:34:58,479 --> 02:35:05,000
154,000 get us there do do we know would

3366
02:35:02,880 --> 02:35:09,120
look for the council to just deal with

3367
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:11,200
the dur uh component of this tonight and

3368
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:14,600
look to put together those other numbers

3369
02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:17,600
cuz right now I'm not comfortable with

3370
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:19,479
enough money on the table to do the

3371
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:21,680
appropriate rehab or the rehab that's

3372
02:35:19,479 --> 02:35:25,680
been outline in that building that we're

3373
02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:27,200
still working on that I been support

3374
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:29,120
forward

3375
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:30,800
that well that's why I'm saying they've

3376
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:32,319
had other verbal commitments so we would

3377
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:34,120
look to them to get those firm

3378
02:35:32,319 --> 02:35:36,479
commitments to see if they could get to

3379
02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:37,840
whatever that whatever the number is the

3380
02:35:36,479 --> 02:35:39,399
mayor stated at the meeting that it

3381
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:41,800
needed to was going to be higher than it

3382
02:35:39,399 --> 02:35:43,240
was when they initially asked for but

3383
02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:45,640
they're not there's no one present from

3384
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:48,040
the organization tonight but they did

3385
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:49,240
say that they you know had a plan so we

3386
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:50,880
would have to hear what their plan is

3387
02:35:49,240 --> 02:35:54,080
and how much funding they had to back

3388
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:56,359
their plan okay Patrick yeah I'd like to

3389
02:35:54,080 --> 02:35:58,200
say that I mean again the players that

3390
02:35:56,359 --> 02:36:00,520
were here the other night I I support

3391
02:35:58,200 --> 02:36:02,120
them and I um have talked with both of

3392
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:05,720
them the folks that were here the other

3393
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:08,520
day from Carver um and I

3394
02:36:05,720 --> 02:36:10,800
just it's gone through a lot of changes

3395
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:12,319
over the years um even just since I've

3396
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:15,840
been on Council in terms of what the

3397
02:36:12,319 --> 02:36:19,120
mission statement was for the um

3398
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:21,960
programming within the Carver so um I do

3399
02:36:19,120 --> 02:36:25,800
want to say that I support that aspect

3400
02:36:21,960 --> 02:36:28,920
of course of of what's Happening um and

3401
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:31,560
I do appreciate also that I know that um

3402
02:36:28,920 --> 02:36:33,000
from M Carver's office that there'd be

3403
02:36:31,560 --> 02:36:34,359
support and there'd be technical

3404
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:36,600
assistance which is something we've

3405
02:36:34,359 --> 02:36:41,399
talked about for a long time uh so that

3406
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:43,399
would be really great as well um I would

3407
02:36:41,399 --> 02:36:46,279
say that one of the things that we did

3408
02:36:43,399 --> 02:36:48,319
when we did award them the initial arpa

3409
02:36:46,279 --> 02:36:50,760
funding when it was in a previous

3410
02:36:48,319 --> 02:36:53,359
incarnation um we had a we had a

3411
02:36:50,760 --> 02:36:56,760
contingency in terms of you know by when

3412
02:36:53,359 --> 02:36:59,479
they would get the remaining funds um in

3413
02:36:56,760 --> 02:37:01,080
place solidly to be able to move forward

3414
02:36:59,479 --> 02:37:02,960
with the project and so I just throw

3415
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:04,439
that out to see what people think about

3416
02:37:02,960 --> 02:37:07,080
that and whether we need to do that

3417
02:37:04,439 --> 02:37:09,880
again because we are coming up on you

3418
02:37:07,080 --> 02:37:12,200
know a deadline of being able to spend

3419
02:37:09,880 --> 02:37:14,080
the money in a way

3420
02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:16,640
that you know we want to make sure that

3421
02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:18,640
money gets spent um by the time that the

3422
02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:22,479
federal government needs us to have it

3423
02:37:18,640 --> 02:37:24,240
spent so I just throw that out there so

3424
02:37:22,479 --> 02:37:25,680
I'd say what I feel comfortable um

3425
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:27,840
saying is first I want to make sure we

3426
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:29,319
give credit to the individuals that got

3427
02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:31,200
us this conversation that was the

3428
02:37:29,319 --> 02:37:33,000
original crew for like a better words

3429
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:34,920
that was leading that Miracle on credit

3430
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:37,160
conversation uh very much there was a

3431
02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:39,760
lot of learning and uh carrying this

3432
02:37:37,160 --> 02:37:42,120
conversation throughout truly a pandemic

3433
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:43,720
uh and it was a credit to their uh

3434
02:37:42,120 --> 02:37:45,720
dedication not only to the community but

3435
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:49,160
seeing that this building that was

3436
02:37:45,720 --> 02:37:51,760
dilapitated comes back to life uh from

3437
02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:53,640
that there were a lot of questions about

3438
02:37:51,760 --> 02:37:55,439
uh their ability to kind of structure

3439
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:57,160
and make sure that ourselves as

3440
02:37:55,439 --> 02:37:59,600
legislators we feel comfortable

3441
02:37:57,160 --> 02:38:01,560
designated large swaps of money because

3442
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:03,479
we need to have a plan in place and I

3443
02:38:01,560 --> 02:38:05,520
see the transition and transformation

3444
02:38:03,479 --> 02:38:09,279
that has happened since then with this

3445
02:38:05,520 --> 02:38:12,560
new uh I guess reinvigoration of this

3446
02:38:09,279 --> 02:38:15,040
current um project and how how it was

3447
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:19,240
presented to us I understand that this

3448
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:21,279
is not going to fully fill that Gap but

3449
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:23,640
there have been other projects that have

3450
02:38:21,279 --> 02:38:25,680
not been fully allocated for and that we

3451
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:29,960
have comfortably allowed them time to

3452
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:32,160
continue as is reference YWCA and the

3453
02:38:29,960 --> 02:38:33,800
confidence and their ability to fill

3454
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:36,520
those gaps I think there was a slight

3455
02:38:33,800 --> 02:38:39,960
hole not not and in compar in comparison

3456
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:43,439
to the entire budget our reflection was

3457
02:38:39,960 --> 02:38:46,479
we trust that you will figure it

3458
02:38:43,439 --> 02:38:49,920
out as we've had these conversations it

3459
02:38:46,479 --> 02:38:52,160
has talked about equitability and being

3460
02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:54,680
transparent with not just our community

3461
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:56,880
with this project uh again I think the

3462
02:38:54,680 --> 02:38:59,520
additional money allocating to that this

3463
02:38:56,880 --> 02:39:01,880
gets them closer I think as Miss pfield

3464
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:04,160
has identified there are other players

3465
02:39:01,880 --> 02:39:06,520
external Partners who's similar to what

3466
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:08,080
happened beautifully with my side where

3467
02:39:06,520 --> 02:39:10,200
this funding stream was able to be

3468
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:11,120
identified to keep this resource within

3469
02:39:10,200 --> 02:39:14,600
our

3470
02:39:11,120 --> 02:39:16,840
city I am confident this will be able to

3471
02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:18,640
occur again and then in my conversations

3472
02:39:16,840 --> 02:39:20,640
with members of their program team it

3473
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:22,640
was made clear that if we were able to

3474
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:25,040
position the city in a way that we could

3475
02:39:22,640 --> 02:39:28,200
leverage our capacity that again will

3476
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:30,080
make that Gap slightly smaller and then

3477
02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:32,279
just so I can capture this for everyone

3478
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:33,479
in the room but also listening again

3479
02:39:32,279 --> 02:39:35,000
getting to the end of the year doesn't

3480
02:39:33,479 --> 02:39:36,640
mean the project has to be done the

3481
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:39,000
money is has to be a lotted so there's

3482
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:41,120
truly no timeline in place as long as we

3483
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:42,920
can confidently say we are moving

3484
02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:46,680
forward I don't think it is anyone's

3485
02:39:42,920 --> 02:39:48,720
interest to have fund a project but

3486
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:50,399
again keep it in line with the manner in

3487
02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:54,439
which we respond to other projects I

3488
02:39:50,399 --> 02:39:56,439
don't think saying no or waiting I think

3489
02:39:54,439 --> 02:40:01,479
that sends a disservice to

3490
02:39:56,439 --> 02:40:03,040
them so your to manag abely uh any

3491
02:40:01,479 --> 02:40:05,120
questions or comments I'm Sorry Miss

3492
02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:06,800
Patrick well I just I do want to back up

3493
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:09,920
because some of the other organizations

3494
02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:13,040
that approached us for uh funding for

3495
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:17,200
example thew to your

3496
02:40:13,040 --> 02:40:19,520
example has been in operation for

3497
02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:22,479
decades um successfully doing doing

3498
02:40:19,520 --> 02:40:25,600
their work so this is a is different

3499
02:40:22,479 --> 02:40:28,439
because we will be taking a chance on an

3500
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:30,160
organization that has not at all started

3501
02:40:28,439 --> 02:40:33,359
their work

3502
02:40:30,160 --> 02:40:36,439
um in this in this Incarnation so again

3503
02:40:33,359 --> 02:40:39,560
I respect the leadership of the new

3504
02:40:36,439 --> 02:40:41,120
project um but it's apples and oranges

3505
02:40:39,560 --> 02:40:43,080
to try to compare it to something like

3506
02:40:41,120 --> 02:40:46,319
the YW because the YW has been

3507
02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:50,120
successfully doing their work for I want

3508
02:40:46,319 --> 02:40:53,160
to say like 100 years or something 135

3509
02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:55,359
years so you know we know that making

3510
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:57,920
that investment um there was experience

3511
02:40:55,359 --> 02:40:59,640
and expertise there um with a track

3512
02:40:57,920 --> 02:41:01,439
record for how they were going to use

3513
02:40:59,640 --> 02:41:05,760
the fund so I just I just wanted to

3514
02:41:01,439 --> 02:41:08,840
clarify that Mr So to that um I would

3515
02:41:05,760 --> 02:41:11,000
say that when we talk about um funding

3516
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:12,319
and funding allocation in terms of eff

3517
02:41:11,000 --> 02:41:14,240
what we have to understand is some

3518
02:41:12,319 --> 02:41:16,880
someone like the Y who has been around

3519
02:41:14,240 --> 02:41:20,040
for a long time doing a lot of valuable

3520
02:41:16,880 --> 02:41:21,479
work part of the reason why they can do

3521
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:24,200
that work is because they have the

3522
02:41:21,479 --> 02:41:26,560
capacity to do the work so we're talking

3523
02:41:24,200 --> 02:41:28,160
about Grassroots initiatives and not

3524
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:30,880
making decisions for people but making

3525
02:41:28,160 --> 02:41:33,560
decisions with people part of the the

3526
02:41:30,880 --> 02:41:35,720
culture if you will um of the original

3527
02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:38,760
intent was that things would have moved

3528
02:41:35,720 --> 02:41:42,319
a lot faster and even more maybe

3529
02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:45,120
efficient from a business lens if if the

3530
02:41:42,319 --> 02:41:46,359
leadership group there was just saying

3531
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:47,720
this is what the community needs and

3532
02:41:46,359 --> 02:41:49,040
this is what we're going to do really

3533
02:41:47,720 --> 02:41:50,399
what they're saying is that they're

3534
02:41:49,040 --> 02:41:53,359
getting getting that feedback from the

3535
02:41:50,399 --> 02:41:56,240
community um they're leveraging um what

3536
02:41:53,359 --> 02:41:58,640
is tons of Highly highly skilled people

3537
02:41:56,240 --> 02:42:01,240
and highly skilled people uh skill sets

3538
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:04,479
within the community to come together to

3539
02:42:01,240 --> 02:42:06,520
to to make this project work so when you

3540
02:42:04,479 --> 02:42:07,640
look at it through the lens of this is

3541
02:42:06,520 --> 02:42:11,439
community

3542
02:42:07,640 --> 02:42:13,040
based um and not just you know they

3543
02:42:11,439 --> 02:42:15,000
don't have the same capacity of some of

3544
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:18,000
our big box nonprofits that have been

3545
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:21,040
doing the work for some time then that's

3546
02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:23,040
literally the definition of equity is

3547
02:42:21,040 --> 02:42:25,520
that you're giving people what they need

3548
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:28,720
in order to be successful luckily to the

3549
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:31,200
why for years and years of funding and

3550
02:42:28,720 --> 02:42:34,920
support um and other nonprofits that

3551
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:37,479
have benefited from um uh systemically

3552
02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:39,080
unjust and inequitable system of course

3553
02:42:37,479 --> 02:42:42,200
they're in a position to do some of the

3554
02:42:39,080 --> 02:42:45,319
work that they're doing look at a a

3555
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:47,240
project like um what we're referring to

3556
02:42:45,319 --> 02:42:49,720
as Carver at this point you know they

3557
02:42:47,240 --> 02:42:53,000
haven't had that institutional support

3558
02:42:49,720 --> 02:42:55,200
for um the decades so I don't expect so

3559
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:57,160
to your point it is apples apples to

3560
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:59,200
oranges but maybe if we're looking at it

3561
02:42:57,160 --> 02:43:01,640
from a different advantage point it's

3562
02:42:59,200 --> 02:43:04,479
just highlights the extreme inequitable

3563
02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:06,800
and injust treatment of small community

3564
02:43:04,479 --> 02:43:08,760
um nonprofit trying to do big work and

3565
02:43:06,800 --> 02:43:10,680
I'm glad that we're all in support of D

3566
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:12,560
because I think that even though

3567
02:43:10,680 --> 02:43:14,319
something like d has not came to us

3568
02:43:12,560 --> 02:43:16,160
multiple times over decades fund and

3569
02:43:14,319 --> 02:43:18,800
they've been doing work in the community

3570
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:20,479
for 180 years so it's like when we think

3571
02:43:18,800 --> 02:43:22,920
about that just because we haven't seen

3572
02:43:20,479 --> 02:43:25,880
the work that's been done um in that

3573
02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:29,080
more in that broader scope of like a a

3574
02:43:25,880 --> 02:43:30,800
nonprofit sector the people that are at

3575
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:33,680
the helm of this have been doing the

3576
02:43:30,800 --> 02:43:35,640
work collectively I would say for for at

3577
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:37,080
least 100 years all the people that you

3578
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:37,760
have the leadership so you have to

3579
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:39,160
really make sure that we're

3580
02:43:37,760 --> 02:43:41,880
acknowledging that because that's the

3581
02:43:39,160 --> 02:43:41,880
definition of

3582
02:43:43,240 --> 02:43:50,479
equity we're not doing that any other

3583
02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:53,080
questions or comments uh m um so I just

3584
02:43:50,479 --> 02:43:54,720
wanted to highlight that with the

3585
02:43:53,080 --> 02:43:57,760
investment that the city is making on a

3586
02:43:54,720 --> 02:44:00,240
crave name connection it's important

3587
02:43:57,760 --> 02:44:03,600
that we address the Carver Center one

3588
02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:05,760
way or another um so I just want to

3589
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:07,640
stress that we we have a lot of money

3590
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:10,720
that we are putting in um to that

3591
02:44:07,640 --> 02:44:13,560
project so to we need to find a way to

3592
02:44:10,720 --> 02:44:15,720
execute it I know that um the mayor has

3593
02:44:13,560 --> 02:44:17,560
suggested that the city may keep

3594
02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:19,640
ownership and give the co-op a pathway

3595
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:21,080
to ownership but that still doesn't take

3596
02:44:19,640 --> 02:44:23,200
that still doesn't take the pressure off

3597
02:44:21,080 --> 02:44:27,080
the city with being able to find the

3598
02:44:23,200 --> 02:44:28,760
funds for The Gap um it's not a one

3599
02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:32,040
person thing here this is going to take

3600
02:44:28,760 --> 02:44:33,760
the collective um the collective group

3601
02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:35,920
because or else the mayor will be upset

3602
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:38,200
with me for

3603
02:44:35,920 --> 02:44:39,720
saying so um yes I was going to bring

3604
02:44:38,200 --> 02:44:41,120
the Craig name that's coming up so I

3605
02:44:39,720 --> 02:44:42,319
think that's important that we keep that

3606
02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:43,319
in mind we would just want to have a

3607
02:44:42,319 --> 02:44:44,800
building that's standing there and I

3608
02:44:43,319 --> 02:44:47,080
don't want to call it deric cuz it's you

3609
02:44:44,800 --> 02:44:48,720
know uh it's not deric it's actually

3610
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:50,240
standing pretty strong for the number of

3611
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:52,960
years in it's been there it's you know

3612
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:55,080
and the um the mlc group PRI to this did

3613
02:44:52,960 --> 02:44:57,080
some Sweat Equity inside so they really

3614
02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:59,120
tried really hard but let's keep in mind

3615
02:44:57,080 --> 02:45:00,560
they weren't actually given any um

3616
02:44:59,120 --> 02:45:01,760
funding necessarily it was on a

3617
02:45:00,560 --> 02:45:05,479
reimbursement basis which was

3618
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:07,319
challenging for a small organization and

3619
02:45:05,479 --> 02:45:08,560
to say that you know the Y has been

3620
02:45:07,319 --> 02:45:10,800
doing work for a very long time but

3621
02:45:08,560 --> 02:45:13,359
they've also got continuous support even

3622
02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:16,240
in this instance the money that we um

3623
02:45:13,359 --> 02:45:19,160
providing for this project for um

3624
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:20,920
consistently cdbg over the years so they

3625
02:45:19,160 --> 02:45:23,080
have that track record because we've

3626
02:45:20,920 --> 02:45:24,840
been supporting it over those years so

3627
02:45:23,080 --> 02:45:26,760
we when we start looking at newer

3628
02:45:24,840 --> 02:45:28,120
organizations I'm going to use the Coco

3629
02:45:26,760 --> 02:45:30,160
house they've been around for a while

3630
02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:31,880
and they did a lot on their own um and

3631
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:34,680
the reason they're able to substate even

3632
02:45:31,880 --> 02:45:36,760
though they're much newer than the YW is

3633
02:45:34,680 --> 02:45:39,240
because the city provided that support

3634
02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:41,560
as well and they moved forward so I and

3635
02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:44,319
I see us trying to do the same kind of

3636
02:45:41,560 --> 02:45:46,240
thing with the Carter which has been

3637
02:45:44,319 --> 02:45:48,279
there for very long time but because

3638
02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:49,479
because of the leadership at the time it

3639
02:45:48,279 --> 02:45:52,840
it just went on

3640
02:45:49,479 --> 02:45:54,800
so um to respond to a community response

3641
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:56,240
and then as a city to to look at it the

3642
02:45:54,800 --> 02:45:58,200
same way we look at some long

3643
02:45:56,240 --> 02:46:00,479
established agencies like the why I

3644
02:45:58,200 --> 02:46:01,840
think it's important for us to do and

3645
02:46:00,479 --> 02:46:04,040
not to just have it standing there we

3646
02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:05,640
can't build beautiful around it and do

3647
02:46:04,040 --> 02:46:07,240
this wonderful cman connection and

3648
02:46:05,640 --> 02:46:08,920
narrow the streets and have a bike path

3649
02:46:07,240 --> 02:46:12,520
and do all that stuff and then have the

3650
02:46:08,920 --> 02:46:14,760
building there unkempt so I I really we

3651
02:46:12,520 --> 02:46:16,720
have to you know pull that plan together

3652
02:46:14,760 --> 02:46:18,479
help with that plan so that it can move

3653
02:46:16,720 --> 02:46:20,600
forward and the city's keeping ownership

3654
02:46:18,479 --> 02:46:22,560
until they can move a pathway then

3655
02:46:20,600 --> 02:46:26,680
that's fine but something we can't just

3656
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:30,800
say nothing any other questions or

3657
02:46:26,680 --> 02:46:33,399
comments uh so hearing n

3658
02:46:30,800 --> 02:46:35,680
sorry I I fully support public

3659
02:46:33,399 --> 02:46:37,880
initiatives and and now as a associate

3660
02:46:35,680 --> 02:46:41,640
commissioner of the state we invested a

3661
02:46:37,880 --> 02:46:44,840
$9 million project into how we grow 9

3662
02:46:41,640 --> 02:46:46,920
million grow yeah how do we you know Jal

3663
02:46:44,840 --> 02:46:50,600
Justice settings how do we grow like so

3664
02:46:46,920 --> 02:46:52,359
the big box AG don't get bigger how do

3665
02:46:50,600 --> 02:46:53,840
we find ways to invest in those

3666
02:46:52,359 --> 02:46:57,279
Community Based agencies that serve the

3667
02:46:53,840 --> 02:47:00,240
community that live that the agencies in

3668
02:46:57,279 --> 02:47:02,840
those communities are growing and not

3669
02:47:00,240 --> 02:47:05,120
necessarily those larger agencies um so

3670
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:06,920
I I fully support this initiative the

3671
02:47:05,120 --> 02:47:11,359
only

3672
02:47:06,920 --> 02:47:13,840
what sorry so so but but working at a

3673
02:47:11,359 --> 02:47:15,920
nonprofit I do see the challenges in in

3674
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:17,640
in m in maintaining and getting these

3675
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:20,720
funding sources and how labor intensive

3676
02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:22,640
they are um um first thing I think we

3677
02:47:20,720 --> 02:47:26,640
need to look at is do we have enough to

3678
02:47:22,640 --> 02:47:30,240
do we have the building if we

3679
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:32,200
do and haror project doesn't come up

3680
02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:34,279
with the funding to start operational

3681
02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:36,520
programming do we not give them the

3682
02:47:34,279 --> 02:47:38,720
building I mean are there contingencies

3683
02:47:36,520 --> 02:47:41,680
we like our commitment here is to reh

3684
02:47:38,720 --> 02:47:44,479
have a building and do we move ahead

3685
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:47,120
with that but if the operational funding

3686
02:47:44,479 --> 02:47:49,439
is not there or we're not satisfied with

3687
02:47:47,120 --> 02:47:51,479
that we still transfer ownership and we

3688
02:47:49,439 --> 02:47:54,080
give them opportunities to start

3689
02:47:51,479 --> 02:47:55,479
operations and then decide that I I mean

3690
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:58,080
I don't know if those are options to

3691
02:47:55,479 --> 02:47:59,479
consider but I I think as much as we can

3692
02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:02,080
as a body and work with the count and

3693
02:47:59,479 --> 02:48:04,080
make this work we should make it work I

3694
02:48:02,080 --> 02:48:06,479
I like the concepts I I like the

3695
02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:09,439
opportunities of programming in the

3696
02:48:06,479 --> 02:48:11,399
communities that they serve um just like

3697
02:48:09,439 --> 02:48:13,520
how do we collectively find a way to

3698
02:48:11,399 --> 02:48:15,319
help them make that work it's possible

3699
02:48:13,520 --> 02:48:16,520
um I like the momentum I like The

3700
02:48:15,319 --> 02:48:18,439
Passion of the people that allow to

3701
02:48:16,520 --> 02:48:20,520
serve their community and and and

3702
02:48:18,439 --> 02:48:23,160
partner with us and I I would just like

3703
02:48:20,520 --> 02:48:24,600
to you know um keep that momentum going

3704
02:48:23,160 --> 02:48:27,600
and see what we can do both as the

3705
02:48:24,600 --> 02:48:30,359
council and the county and look at ways

3706
02:48:27,600 --> 02:48:33,200
we can make this work so I would say in

3707
02:48:30,359 --> 02:48:36,000
part to that there's a reflection of

3708
02:48:33,200 --> 02:48:37,960
teamwork and that no one person or no

3709
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:40,120
one organization is successful on their

3710
02:48:37,960 --> 02:48:43,479
own I would say case in point by that

3711
02:48:40,120 --> 02:48:45,640
lovely lovely uh uh depiction of all the

3712
02:48:43,479 --> 02:48:47,399
work that you've done in a short amount

3713
02:48:45,640 --> 02:48:49,560
of time truly is a reflection of not

3714
02:48:47,399 --> 02:48:52,720
yourself it is the the supports that you

3715
02:48:49,560 --> 02:48:55,240
have surrounding you in no way as you

3716
02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:57,439
discussed the Carver project has there

3717
02:48:55,240 --> 02:48:59,200
any sense of concern or weariness I

3718
02:48:57,439 --> 02:49:02,000
think it is all the more confidence that

3719
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:05,200
if you can apply the successful measures

3720
02:49:02,000 --> 02:49:07,080
that you allowed to successfully Drive

3721
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:08,399
these other projects into closing which

3722
02:49:07,080 --> 02:49:10,040
truly is an accomplishment I don't know

3723
02:49:08,399 --> 02:49:12,399
if anyone remembers where we were a year

3724
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:14,080
ago uh we are in a truly different place

3725
02:49:12,399 --> 02:49:18,960
thank you to your leadership and joining

3726
02:49:14,080 --> 02:49:21,880
this Sky family Sky Team um but where

3727
02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:24,520
they are now is not a depiction of of

3728
02:49:21,880 --> 02:49:26,359
where of where they will remain is kind

3729
02:49:24,520 --> 02:49:27,960
of what I'm getting at so there's no

3730
02:49:26,359 --> 02:49:30,120
wishful thinking or or hopeful

3731
02:49:27,960 --> 02:49:31,520
conjecture truly that the like you said

3732
02:49:30,120 --> 02:49:33,399
the momentum is going forward so are we

3733
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:35,439
going to salate that or are we going to

3734
02:49:33,399 --> 02:49:37,200
get behind them and push harder and I

3735
02:49:35,439 --> 02:49:39,160
think we do that by making the decision

3736
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:41,479
tonight and allowing Miss Carver to

3737
02:49:39,160 --> 02:49:43,520
continue doing the work that is evident

3738
02:49:41,479 --> 02:49:46,160
so that this group this this this

3739
02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:48,040
community carver can move forward and

3740
02:49:46,160 --> 02:49:50,120
then we transition our Focus to

3741
02:49:48,040 --> 02:49:51,920
addressing how how do we bring in Secure

3742
02:49:50,120 --> 02:49:53,920
those funding those funding streams and

3743
02:49:51,920 --> 02:49:58,640
those dollars so that we have that not

3744
02:49:53,920 --> 02:50:00,680
as a hope but as a a a a cemented

3745
02:49:58,640 --> 02:50:02,600
commitment so with that any other

3746
02:50:00,680 --> 02:50:06,160
questions or

3747
02:50:02,600 --> 02:50:09,080
comments Mr Harley so just I don't I I I

3748
02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:13,880
really want to be mindful that cuz what

3749
02:50:09,080 --> 02:50:16,399
I'm hearing I don't think that we are uh

3750
02:50:13,880 --> 02:50:18,200
pting one agency's records against

3751
02:50:16,399 --> 02:50:19,840
another I want to be clear that that

3752
02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:22,000
that's that's what I'm hearing from any

3753
02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:24,439
of my fellow council members what I'm

3754
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:27,279
what I'm thinking I'm hearing inment

3755
02:50:24,439 --> 02:50:28,600
from is concerns about sustainability

3756
02:50:27,279 --> 02:50:31,319
once you make the investment in the

3757
02:50:28,600 --> 02:50:34,680
project and I think that the Equitable

3758
02:50:31,319 --> 02:50:36,800
response to that is to assist as much as

3759
02:50:34,680 --> 02:50:39,920
we can help to capacity build to make

3760
02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:44,640
sure that um that that the project is a

3761
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:47,040
success and really just check the way

3762
02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:48,319
that we are valuing the skill sets of

3763
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:49,760
the people that are involved with the

3764
02:50:48,319 --> 02:50:53,439
project CU again even though there might

3765
02:50:49,760 --> 02:50:56,560
not be that institutional um length of

3766
02:50:53,439 --> 02:50:59,120
track record there's definitely um

3767
02:50:56,560 --> 02:51:00,920
individual success in the work that's

3768
02:50:59,120 --> 02:51:02,439
been happening in the community and that

3769
02:51:00,920 --> 02:51:05,680
is one of some of the things that people

3770
02:51:02,439 --> 02:51:07,359
like at the big nonprofits that's the

3771
02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:09,080
talent that they seek to go hire people

3772
02:51:07,359 --> 02:51:11,800
from the community to do what they're

3773
02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:13,319
doing so that's a really um valuable

3774
02:51:11,800 --> 02:51:14,840
skill set so I think that we I just want

3775
02:51:13,319 --> 02:51:16,560
to uplift and amplify that and at the

3776
02:51:14,840 --> 02:51:17,880
same time I think that we all are kind

3777
02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:19,520
of talking the same language or just

3778
02:51:17,880 --> 02:51:23,040
trying to figure out the best we for

3779
02:51:19,520 --> 02:51:26,840
right yes I just have to say in defense

3780
02:51:23,040 --> 02:51:28,920
of my profession of being in nonprofit

3781
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:31,279
and being a fundraiser in nonprofit from

3782
02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:35,080
which I'm now retired but I have to say

3783
02:51:31,279 --> 02:51:37,920
that I don't consider big box as an

3784
02:51:35,080 --> 02:51:42,120
appropriate term for a Bethesda house a

3785
02:51:37,920 --> 02:51:45,439
SCA a YWCA a City Mission they're all

3786
02:51:42,120 --> 02:51:48,359
organizations that struggle

3787
02:51:45,439 --> 02:51:50,720
struggle to well I'm just saying I mean

3788
02:51:48,359 --> 02:51:53,680
I I guess I I just have to say that

3789
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:56,160
they're all in my mind small nonprofits

3790
02:51:53,680 --> 02:51:57,880
serving this community meeting a need

3791
02:51:56,160 --> 02:52:01,319
each one of them has a mission that they

3792
02:51:57,880 --> 02:52:03,800
are definitely um you know serving the

3793
02:52:01,319 --> 02:52:06,160
people that come to them for services

3794
02:52:03,800 --> 02:52:09,000
and they all I can tell you from my

3795
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:12,840
years of working in this community um as

3796
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:16,040
a fundraiser they are out there pound

3797
02:52:12,840 --> 02:52:19,040
indoors um every day trying to find the

3798
02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:22,200
funding that they need uh to exist to

3799
02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:24,600
excel to succeed so none of them have

3800
02:52:22,200 --> 02:52:27,760
money trees in the backyard as my father

3801
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:30,720
used to accuse me of thinking he had um

3802
02:52:27,760 --> 02:52:34,319
they all are needing to really pound the

3803
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:36,880
pavement and look for dollars um so I

3804
02:52:34,319 --> 02:52:40,359
just I just I support what yall are

3805
02:52:36,880 --> 02:52:43,520
saying and I'm I I'll vote the way

3806
02:52:40,359 --> 02:52:45,840
you're saying but I just want to go back

3807
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:48,160
the agencies that I had in mind were not

3808
02:52:45,840 --> 02:52:50,040
anything that was started locally they

3809
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:53,200
ser State have every Community

3810
02:52:50,040 --> 02:52:57,840
throughout the state got yeah okay

3811
02:52:53,200 --> 02:52:59,560
thanks yeah so for clarity um there are

3812
02:52:57,840 --> 02:53:02,160
these things like so let's just talk

3813
02:52:59,560 --> 02:53:04,880
about the the the infrastructure really

3814
02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:07,479
quickly about the the agencies that I'm

3815
02:53:04,880 --> 02:53:09,600
talking about when I say Big B

3816
02:53:07,479 --> 02:53:11,319
nonprofits I'm talking about you know an

3817
02:53:09,600 --> 02:53:14,279
operation budget you know that's you

3818
02:53:11,319 --> 02:53:15,439
know over you know5 $6 million you know

3819
02:53:14,279 --> 02:53:19,120
what I mean that's what that's what I

3820
02:53:15,439 --> 02:53:20,720
mean um do you could tell through my

3821
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:24,760
voting record of supporting these

3822
02:53:20,720 --> 02:53:26,120
agencies um and my uh contribution

3823
02:53:24,760 --> 02:53:28,520
showing up over the years that I

3824
02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:31,080
definitely support and value them what

3825
02:53:28,520 --> 02:53:33,760
I'm saying is that if we look at the

3826
02:53:31,080 --> 02:53:36,640
city's track record of how we've been

3827
02:53:33,760 --> 02:53:38,840
allocating funds to certain nonprofits

3828
02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:41,120
it's been happening over a period of

3829
02:53:38,840 --> 02:53:42,960
time years and years and years and I

3830
02:53:41,120 --> 02:53:44,960
continue I think we should continue

3831
02:53:42,960 --> 02:53:47,080
along that path but it's but we need to

3832
02:53:44,960 --> 02:53:49,680
be clear that when we're talking about

3833
02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:50,960
Equitable we can't just say that word if

3834
02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:53,880
we're not going to do

3835
02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:56,160
it doing it is looking at the scope of

3836
02:53:53,880 --> 02:53:58,399
what people's capacity is recognizing

3837
02:53:56,160 --> 02:54:00,319
the strengths and then are if we're in a

3838
02:53:58,399 --> 02:54:01,840
if we're in a position to help them then

3839
02:54:00,319 --> 02:54:03,399
we can't just support them in words we

3840
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:06,239
need to do it in actions and that's what

3841
02:54:03,399 --> 02:54:08,399
I'm saying so again I feel like the

3842
02:54:06,239 --> 02:54:10,359
conversation is going towards like we're

3843
02:54:08,399 --> 02:54:12,120
starting to pit them against each other

3844
02:54:10,359 --> 02:54:13,399
and that's not what we need to be doing

3845
02:54:12,120 --> 02:54:16,000
no I don't think anybody's doing that

3846
02:54:13,399 --> 02:54:18,160
what I'm saying is what I'm saying is

3847
02:54:16,000 --> 02:54:21,000
the man's point I speak for myself very

3848
02:54:18,160 --> 02:54:22,439
very clearly is that I I've never

3849
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:24,359
insinuated that did any of these

3850
02:54:22,439 --> 02:54:26,239
nonprofits have more money than what

3851
02:54:24,359 --> 02:54:28,000
they know to do with I'm saying that if

3852
02:54:26,239 --> 02:54:29,359
there is a set plot of money then we

3853
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:30,960
have decisions to make and we need to

3854
02:54:29,359 --> 02:54:34,239
make those decisions equitably if we're

3855
02:54:30,960 --> 02:54:37,479
going to say that word every other five

3856
02:54:34,239 --> 02:54:39,399
minutes so i' say as I prepare to call

3857
02:54:37,479 --> 02:54:41,760
for a motion I would say just so it's

3858
02:54:39,399 --> 02:54:44,080
clear and understood my position in no

3859
02:54:41,760 --> 02:54:47,120
way do I plan to deviate from getting to

3860
02:54:44,080 --> 02:54:49,720
a a point where you are comfortable with

3861
02:54:47,120 --> 02:54:52,479
supporting all all this money in my mind

3862
02:54:49,720 --> 02:54:54,120
needs to go to Carver uh Point Blank and

3863
02:54:52,479 --> 02:54:55,960
I thank the work that your team has done

3864
02:54:54,120 --> 02:54:58,760
and getting us to this pathway and I

3865
02:54:55,960 --> 02:55:01,120
think with that that is one of what's so

3866
02:54:58,760 --> 02:55:02,600
many remaining steps in line to get them

3867
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:04,359
into a grand opening where the community

3868
02:55:02,600 --> 02:55:07,279
can truly Embrace this resource once

3869
02:55:04,359 --> 02:55:10,640
again uh so with that if there are no

3870
02:55:07,279 --> 02:55:12,399
other questions or comments um so yeah

3871
02:55:10,640 --> 02:55:15,000
so I just want to point out Miss M

3872
02:55:12,399 --> 02:55:16,720
Carver has mentioned this before that in

3873
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:19,319
terms of looking at the funding sources

3874
02:55:16,720 --> 02:55:21,479
she's looking at how who we funded over

3875
02:55:19,319 --> 02:55:23,239
and over again in ways to increase that

3876
02:55:21,479 --> 02:55:24,680
funding to other organizations that have

3877
02:55:23,239 --> 02:55:26,760
not had the ability to do that so that

3878
02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:28,520
is something among the all other many

3879
02:55:26,760 --> 02:55:30,319
things that she's doing so well that

3880
02:55:28,520 --> 02:55:31,840
that she is looking at so we you as a

3881
02:55:30,319 --> 02:55:34,359
council be able to see that coming

3882
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:34,359
forward as

3883
02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:41,200
well uh kind left I looking for some

3884
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:42,560
discretion do we need to look at each of

3885
02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:44,920
these items

3886
02:55:42,560 --> 02:55:46,479
individually on this one okay perfect so

3887
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:50,520
may I have a motion about proceeding

3888
02:55:46,479 --> 02:55:53,479
forward with the Dury reot so Mo second

3889
02:55:50,520 --> 02:55:55,520
all those in favor I I and then the

3890
02:55:53,479 --> 02:55:57,520
remaining items we will come before the

3891
02:55:55,520 --> 02:55:59,560
council again and we'll come back with

3892
02:55:57,520 --> 02:56:01,880
discussion after this all right thank

3893
02:55:59,560 --> 02:56:03,520
you again thank you thank you thank you

3894
02:56:01,880 --> 02:56:05,479
are there any other items to follow the

3895
02:56:03,520 --> 02:56:07,720
finance committee none may have motion

3896
02:56:05,479 --> 02:56:10,520
to adourn so move second all those in

3897
02:56:07,720 --> 02:56:12,040
favor I we areour thank you I'd like to

3898
02:56:10,520 --> 02:56:15,520
call the order of City development and

3899
02:56:12,040 --> 02:56:17,319
planning there are 11 items on the

3900
02:56:15,520 --> 02:56:18,479
agenda okay I'm just going to wait a

3901
02:56:17,319 --> 02:56:21,479
minute cuz it look like the room the

3902
02:56:18,479 --> 02:56:21,479
clear

3903
02:57:13,160 --> 02:57:16,239
pass sneaky could you move him away from

3904
02:57:14,840 --> 02:57:20,359
the

3905
02:57:16,239 --> 02:57:20,359
door no thank

3906
02:57:23,279 --> 02:57:27,080
you they're going to listen to

3907
02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:37,040
the okay so I've called together um City

3908
02:57:35,560 --> 02:57:39,239
development planning our first item on

3909
02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:40,640
the agenda is a word bidden contract for

3910
02:57:39,239 --> 02:57:42,840
disconnected City Hall ventilation

3911
02:57:40,640 --> 02:57:49,960
replacement Mr

3912
02:57:42,840 --> 02:57:49,960
Wallen hello hi I feel unpopular now

3913
02:57:50,080 --> 02:57:54,800
uh so the first one we have here SED

3914
02:57:52,359 --> 02:57:58,840
City Hall ventilation

3915
02:57:54,800 --> 02:57:58,840
is no no I'm just trying

3916
02:57:59,760 --> 02:58:05,279
that this is one of two bids we did not

3917
02:58:02,760 --> 02:58:07,840
get a bid for the mechanical portion of

3918
02:58:05,279 --> 02:58:09,680
it it is out uh as a rebid right now but

3919
02:58:07,840 --> 02:58:12,200
there's no reason that we can't reward

3920
02:58:09,680 --> 02:58:14,800
the electrical portion of it um what

3921
02:58:12,200 --> 02:58:17,239
this is to do is one of my bucketless

3922
02:58:14,800 --> 02:58:20,319
projects when I started uh was to

3923
02:58:17,239 --> 02:58:24,120
reinstate the broken ventilation system

3924
02:58:20,319 --> 02:58:26,640
in City Hall um that system will not um

3925
02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:28,840
affect most of the rooms however it will

3926
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:30,880
affect the bathrooms and it will affect

3927
02:58:28,840 --> 02:58:33,120
the council chambers room as those are

3928
02:58:30,880 --> 02:58:34,960
the rooms that have uh ventilation

3929
02:58:33,120 --> 02:58:37,720
systems in them all the ventilation

3930
02:58:34,960 --> 02:58:40,600
system does is exhaust air and pull air

3931
02:58:37,720 --> 02:58:44,279
from the hallways it is technology from

3932
02:58:40,600 --> 02:58:47,160
1940 but it will uh allow the building

3933
02:58:44,279 --> 02:58:50,120
to breathe a little bit um and so we

3934
02:58:47,160 --> 02:58:53,479
would like to put that system back into

3935
02:58:50,120 --> 02:58:55,800
place any questions or comments I'll

3936
02:58:53,479 --> 02:58:58,840
move in I'll second all in

3937
02:58:55,800 --> 02:59:00,920
favor thank you item number two is award

3938
02:58:58,840 --> 02:59:03,040
bidden contract for the SKC City Hall

3939
02:59:00,920 --> 02:59:05,560
Clock Tower restoration to Midstate

3940
02:59:03,040 --> 02:59:08,800
Industries L

3941
02:59:05,560 --> 02:59:10,960
limited so this is uh exactly it says

3942
02:59:08,800 --> 02:59:12,520
restoration of the existing Clock Tower

3943
02:59:10,960 --> 02:59:15,239
um as we know the anniversary the Clock

3944
02:59:12,520 --> 02:59:18,319
Tower from the down recently we they

3945
02:59:15,239 --> 02:59:20,760
covered that and um The Clock Tower does

3946
02:59:18,319 --> 02:59:22,600
refurbishment uh a lot of the wood that

3947
02:59:20,760 --> 02:59:25,680
makes up some of the decorative pieces

3948
02:59:22,600 --> 02:59:27,000
is rotten um there is peeling paint what

3949
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:29,800
we wanted to do is repaint but we don't

3950
02:59:27,000 --> 02:59:32,840
want to repaint onto bad wood um we also

3951
02:59:29,800 --> 02:59:34,960
are going to Reg gold the the Dome

3952
02:59:32,840 --> 02:59:36,160
replace the clock faces in the works and

3953
02:59:34,960 --> 02:59:38,359
make sure right now they're a little

3954
02:59:36,160 --> 02:59:40,200
loose so the times are different around

3955
02:59:38,359 --> 02:59:43,399
so it would be a total refurbishment of

3956
02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:45,319
the clock power um Midstate Industries

3957
02:59:43,399 --> 02:59:47,760
is the group that is also doing the

3958
02:59:45,319 --> 02:59:48,640
refurbishment of the northbury pump

3959
02:59:47,760 --> 02:59:50,120
station

3960
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:51,800
they're familiar with the city we worked

3961
02:59:50,120 --> 02:59:54,920
with them on several projects so we're

3962
02:59:51,800 --> 02:59:57,120
comfortable with them and their price

3963
02:59:54,920 --> 02:59:59,640
was significantly less than the second

3964
02:59:57,120 --> 03:00:01,479
bit which is also and the money is

3965
02:59:59,640 --> 03:00:03,680
already in the budget for the capital

3966
03:00:01,479 --> 03:00:05,680
budget for this yes this is coming from

3967
03:00:03,680 --> 03:00:07,160
a capital facility code not any kind of

3968
03:00:05,680 --> 03:00:09,160
an arban code this was something that we

3969
03:00:07,160 --> 03:00:13,120
bonded this year

3970
03:00:09,160 --> 03:00:14,600
okay yes Mr Toro oh hi thank you um the

3971
03:00:13,120 --> 03:00:19,120
difference between the

3972
03:00:14,600 --> 03:00:22,000
$1,608 and 800 and down to what they sh

3973
03:00:19,120 --> 03:00:24,520
what is the difference the 58 why why is

3974
03:00:22,000 --> 03:00:27,279
it so different yeah I did not call the

3975
03:00:24,520 --> 03:00:31,760
second bidder oh okay

3976
03:00:27,279 --> 03:00:33,359
I I didn't see that I saw PT just they

3977
03:00:31,760 --> 03:00:35,720
would have made a lot more

3978
03:00:33,359 --> 03:00:37,399
money we we call that leaving money on

3979
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:41,880
the table I don't know why I see number

3980
03:00:37,399 --> 03:00:44,120
one and number two there you go got

3981
03:00:41,880 --> 03:00:45,200
it I did talk with them just to let you

3982
03:00:44,120 --> 03:00:47,560
know I thought the question would come

3983
03:00:45,200 --> 03:00:49,640
up um this is a spring project not a

3984
03:00:47,560 --> 03:00:52,640
winter project just the scaffolding

3985
03:00:49,640 --> 03:00:54,600
alone we talked with u Midstate just a

3986
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:56,960
scaffolding alone will take a month to

3987
03:00:54,600 --> 03:00:59,640
set up wow so once the scaffolding gets

3988
03:00:56,960 --> 03:01:02,479
set up takes a month to set up then we

3989
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:04,560
have work we're going to be into just

3990
03:01:02,479 --> 03:01:07,080
inclement weather and we thought that

3991
03:01:04,560 --> 03:01:09,200
instead of trying to leave it up or do

3992
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:10,520
just start in the spring get it done

3993
03:01:09,200 --> 03:01:11,880
because it's going to be very elaborate

3994
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:14,640
to give me

3995
03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:16,760
this any other questions or comments

3996
03:01:14,640 --> 03:01:20,520
I'll move it I'll second all those in

3997
03:01:16,760 --> 03:01:22,399
favor I I thank you item number three

3998
03:01:20,520 --> 03:01:24,800
was going to be the ceremonial renaming

3999
03:01:22,399 --> 03:01:27,800
of the city street um was put on Mr mud

4000
03:01:24,800 --> 03:01:29,479
Mr mud was unable to be here tonight so

4001
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:32,000
we will I'll ask him and we'll probably

4002
03:01:29,479 --> 03:01:33,920
move that out for two weeks um you know

4003
03:01:32,000 --> 03:01:35,359
the information is in your packet and

4004
03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:37,640
I'm sure that all of you have received

4005
03:01:35,359 --> 03:01:39,520
emails regarding this particular

4006
03:01:37,640 --> 03:01:41,319
discussion so we'll bring that back in

4007
03:01:39,520 --> 03:01:45,000
two

4008
03:01:41,319 --> 03:01:48,960
weeks remaining items are all for um

4009
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:51,680
executive session their property sales

4010
03:01:48,960 --> 03:01:54,399
so I would entertain a motion to go to

4011
03:01:51,680 --> 03:01:57,680
the executive session so I'll second all

4012
03:01:54,399 --> 03:02:00,870
those in favor I IA session members of

4013
03:01:57,680 --> 03:02:26,379
the public would have to leave

4014
03:02:00,870 --> 03:02:26,379
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