1 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:19,340 Okay, I'll call to order the Tuesday's preventive meeting of personnel, ways and means. I have a one request to speak to the commission on an agenda item. Todd Gilman. 2 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:36,540 Good morning. My name is Todd Gilman. I'm from Cambridge Township. I'm also a sitting member of the Michigan Republican Party and the President of Illinois County Conservatives. I would like to speak today about the administrator's contract. 3 00:00:36,540 --> 00:00:42,600 I don't believe since we are less than 60 days from the general election I don't think 4 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:51,320 it's prudent for this board to take up an expense like this I believe it's supposed 5 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,060 to be for three years I don't think it's physically responsible for the board to vote on this 6 00:00:57,620 --> 00:01:02,640 as we are going to be getting three minimum three new members or the board and I believe 7 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,880 that would be handcuffing the future board I believe this administrators contract should 8 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,860 be pushed back to at least January to allow the new board members to be seated and to 9 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:16,680 vote on them because it's going to handcuff them for future budget proposals. 10 00:01:17,580 --> 00:01:22,240 I also believe it's such a bad precedent for the rest of the county employees that if 11 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,620 we give one employee a three-year contract, I believe all the other employees will then 12 00:01:26,620 --> 00:01:29,800 have reason to believe that they deserve a three-year contract. 13 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:37,500 This has nothing to do with the abilities of the county administrator. 14 00:01:38,420 --> 00:01:43,260 She could be doing a great job, that would be awesome, but a three-year contract handcuffs 15 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,260 the new board that's going to be coming in in January, and I don't think it's physically 16 00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:53,380 responsible to vote on such an expense right now with three members of this board that will 17 00:01:53,380 --> 00:01:57,060 no longer be a part of the board come January 2025. 18 00:01:57,060 --> 00:02:04,260 five. These take that under advisement, as this is something that you should leave to 19 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:08,520 the next board that's going to be sitting for four years, not two. So, thank you very 20 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:17,000 much. Thank you, sir. I will move to approval of the minutes from the previous meeting. 21 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:23,440 Some of what was part of the range of discussion. Very not all of them forever say hi. 22 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,260 I, I, both same sign, Ocean Carey's. 23 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,780 We'll now move to personal business. 24 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:33,680 You all have a copy I believe or it's in your packet 25 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,700 of the employee, employee changes within the county. 26 00:02:38,420 --> 00:02:41,020 Are there any questions, comments, concerns? 27 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:46,650 Every nun will move to next item on the agenda 28 00:02:46,650 --> 00:02:48,110 the administrators contract. 29 00:02:49,330 --> 00:02:50,850 I'll open the floor for discussion. 30 00:02:58,770 --> 00:02:59,210 Mr. Chairman. 31 00:03:01,250 --> 00:03:19,310 So the reason I asked for that to be on the agendas because as we all know, there's an evergreen clause in the contract for six month notice and I just wanted a commission to be aware that the contract automatically renews without any action on that part. 32 00:03:19,310 --> 00:03:29,350 So it's actually an action item under paragraph two so that's the reason I had to put on the agenda. I have no problem with the commissioner or excuse me. 33 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:31,810 The administrator having a contract for 34 00:03:35,710 --> 00:03:36,330 the discussion. 35 00:03:40,630 --> 00:03:41,270 Mr. Martis. 36 00:03:43,070 --> 00:03:50,690 I want everybody to be aware that I did take the time to call administrator Murphy before I went on vacation to let her know that I have no issues with the performance. 37 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:53,670 And my only concern with the contract is the evergreen clause. 38 00:03:54,010 --> 00:04:03,110 I think it's bad policy to for the county or anybody in their own business for that matter to enter into a contract that automatically renews without affirmative action. 39 00:04:03,630 --> 00:04:07,430 But I don't intend to make any motion at this point for 40 00:04:11,590 --> 00:04:18,850 the discussion or request for a or make sure to tell us. 41 00:04:18,850 --> 00:04:30,330 Well, I don't see any reason why we ever had to ever green part of the contract. 42 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:37,830 I said here and listen to all nine commissioners give her an outstanding review. 43 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:51,330 And then is outstanding as that review is have a concern because we would have a 44 00:04:51,330 --> 00:05:00,730 contract for three years, I think it's really foolish because number one, you can look all over 45 00:05:02,590 --> 00:05:09,230 Midwest to come up with a person that has done or would do equally as well as she has. 46 00:05:10,830 --> 00:05:19,130 And I really think that I don't think a three year contract is long, long, long at all 47 00:05:19,130 --> 00:05:30,690 in that particular instance, either I misunderstood this board when she had a review. 48 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:40,390 Everybody gave her an outstanding grade. 49 00:05:40,390 --> 00:06:03,630 So I just, I think really, we just need to, number one, I'd like to get rid of that, that evergreen clause, but I think a three-year contract is to our advantage as well as it is to her advantage, and I don't know where I would go out and find somebody. 50 00:06:04,490 --> 00:06:09,610 She got any more capability than she has, and she showed it. 51 00:06:09,730 --> 00:06:14,010 This isn't something you just thought about for three months. 52 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:23,130 She showed that she has that ability, and today's world, when you got somebody that does 53 00:06:23,130 --> 00:06:31,630 the job the way you need it to be done, it's a situation where why is anybody trying to 54 00:06:31,630 --> 00:06:33,070 to fix something that ain't broke. 55 00:06:33,530 --> 00:06:35,050 I just don't understand that. 56 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:40,190 Maybe the rest of you people can explain that to me. 57 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,540 Mr. Stipson, because members of this board, Ralph, 58 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,500 went about, and their campaign 59 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:50,520 about cleaning up corruption in the Administrator's office. 60 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,160 They made speeches about it. 61 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:53,260 That's why we're here today. 62 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:55,820 There's nothing to do with Administrator Murphy. 63 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:58,800 Because they're here because they're trying 64 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,800 to fulfill campaign promises that they made. 65 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:07,820 Every green clauses are in almost every executive contract I've ever reviewed over in 20 plus years. 66 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,440 They're standard clauses and they made promises they were going to get rid of this Murphy. 67 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,780 So they're here to try to do that. 68 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:18,560 Now they're not making a motion because they know they don't have support. 69 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:21,680 That's why. 70 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 That's the plain simple truth. 71 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,620 This is the fourth time members of this board are trying to bring this contract forward. 72 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:37,840 cost in the taxpayers hundreds of thousands in legal fees because they don't like it, but it is 73 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,720 the contract. Any action on this contract, quite frankly, would open us up to some significant 74 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:50,180 liability. If I were to counsel Ms. Murphy as an attorney, I would tell her that she has significant 75 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:52,160 causes of action against those members. 76 00:07:54,490 --> 00:07:57,910 But that's the truth. They want to talk about transparency, 77 00:07:57,910 --> 00:08:03,310 They want to talk about how we're going to do things this way, but that's not how they act. 78 00:08:04,770 --> 00:08:09,450 So yes, I'm being a little bit chastising of the people who brought this forward because it's ridiculous. 79 00:08:11,290 --> 00:08:13,810 It's not being open and honest. 80 00:08:14,490 --> 00:08:17,850 They have grudges to bear, and they're trying to bear them out. 81 00:08:19,090 --> 00:08:20,350 So it is ridiculous. 82 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:24,750 I will not vote in support of changing any aspect, and her contract should be renewed. 83 00:08:24,750 --> 00:08:25,830 Mr. 84 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:33,770 Bales. Thank you. And I have to say this contract has been repeatedly 85 00:08:33,770 --> 00:08:40,690 attacked for two years, reviewed four times by multiple attorneys, and they found 86 00:08:40,690 --> 00:08:45,170 it legally found and bailed every time. Yet some continued a question 87 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:49,870 administrator Kim Murphy's contract for what logical person would say as a 88 00:08:49,870 --> 00:08:56,770 personal vendetta. And they do this at the taxpayer's expense. We you know ask 89 00:08:56,770 --> 00:09:02,530 yourself how many times that went to the attorneys to be reviewed and the taxpayers paid that. 90 00:09:03,130 --> 00:09:08,150 We run and take political office, our constituents have a place, 91 00:09:08,610 --> 00:09:14,390 have placed the power with us to make decisions that impact the residents of Lennwy County. 92 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:21,310 That role is powerful and vital in our governmental process. When we violate that trust by making 93 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:28,190 our personal agendas, the forefront of our plans for the county and not what is best 94 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:33,370 interest of our residents. We not only violate the very principles of our country was founded 95 00:09:33,370 --> 00:09:38,570 on, but we violate our friends, neighbors and the very people that we care about and trust. 96 00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:45,710 I can no longer sit idly why this continues to happen. Some of the Newark commissioners 97 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:52,470 ran their platforms on transparency, why challenge them in that transparency as they are the 98 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:59,310 same commissioners who continually challenge the administrators contract and ran their own 99 00:09:59,310 --> 00:10:06,770 political platform on reforming the dysfunctional administrators office. You beg the question, 100 00:10:06,770 --> 00:10:10,930 are you doing what Lenway County residents need or are you self-serving your own propaganda, 101 00:10:10,930 --> 00:10:13,390 and thus far it proves the letter. 102 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:14,770 Thank you. 103 00:10:17,390 --> 00:10:20,350 For the comments, discussion, 104 00:10:22,410 --> 00:10:23,250 Mr. Bolton. 105 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:25,150 Thank you. 106 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:28,270 I just want to say we are not a lame duck commission. 107 00:10:30,210 --> 00:10:32,950 Kim Murphy has had an open to her policy 108 00:10:32,950 --> 00:10:35,530 for all of our commissioners, for all of the employees 109 00:10:35,530 --> 00:10:37,890 to come and talk to her on any issue 110 00:10:37,890 --> 00:10:39,670 and I truly appreciate it. 111 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:43,290 She has brought consistency not only to the board, 112 00:10:43,290 --> 00:10:49,050 but to the employees of the county as well as the constituents and that is very 113 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:54,770 important for continuation and planning for the future. We have momentum 114 00:10:54,770 --> 00:11:01,590 through Kim. One of the things that I have stated earlier is that I have sat 115 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:08,090 with four different administrators for our county. I am the most excited at this 116 00:11:08,090 --> 00:11:12,510 time for the future of our county because of her administration. 117 00:11:15,330 --> 00:11:16,550 Her review was great 118 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:23,330 and I don't know why this question has come up, but we need to give our administrator confidence 119 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:30,790 in her job without continual questions on the contract and leaving her up in the air or time 120 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:33,770 and time again. Thank you. 121 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:40,550 Mr. Bandoorn. Okay, this is my second time, so I know it's my final time, 122 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:48,230 I'm a little perplexed here, I don't know what you wanted me to do. 123 00:11:48,410 --> 00:11:51,170 I mean, there's an action item in the contract. 124 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:53,950 So I just brought it to everyone's attention. 125 00:11:54,730 --> 00:11:58,910 I agree, Administrator Murphy has done an outstanding job. 126 00:11:59,650 --> 00:12:01,830 I think she had a great review process. 127 00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:04,290 I think that speaks for all the commissioners 128 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:08,150 and how they rated the administrator and the fact 129 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:16,710 that they addressed any issues and gave her high marks, so I'm just a little befuddled 130 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:24,170 while we've taken this so personally here and defensive because we're all in support 131 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:30,770 by the review process that we appreciate everything that she's done. She's done an outstanding job. 132 00:12:31,490 --> 00:12:57,730 You know, there's I can I can name the action items. I mean from Marie Spira campus to the budget to the personnel adjustments and wages to all the studies. I mean phenomenal job. So please. I mean don't take this that there's some sort of berating of the administrator in this action. It's an action stuff that you put in the contract. 133 00:12:59,330 --> 00:13:06,510 That says that six months ahead of time, the contract, if you want to do something with 134 00:13:06,510 --> 00:13:10,030 the contract, you should do with it, otherwise it automatically renews. 135 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:12,530 So I just brought that to the attention of the commissioners. 136 00:13:13,510 --> 00:13:17,450 So please don't take it personally, you're doing an outstanding job. 137 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:18,910 Thank you. 138 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:23,410 Mr. Murph. 139 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:29,690 Which is precisely why I took the time to preemptively reach out to Administrator Murphy on this very 140 00:13:29,690 --> 00:13:35,150 issue to explain that I simply had one concern, and that's that I don't think auto renewing 141 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:41,990 contracts are good policy. And to continue to hear allegations that were seeking to do other 142 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:48,710 things, some sewing seeds of discord and distrust is frankly beneath dignifying with a response. 143 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:59,220 The comment, discussion. I too had some concerns about this when I heard it was going to be on the 144 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:05,260 agenda. One, it is not a rarity. It exists in several contracts. The county 145 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:11,100 to our immediate east, Madrow, has such a clause in the administrator's 146 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:16,240 contract. I have looked around and such a clause exists in many county and 147 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:23,820 city administrators contracts. This is not rare. This is not uncommon. Let me pose 148 00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:31,640 the question. If in fact we don't have such a clause, the six month notice. And we wait 149 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:38,460 till the final hour and say, we're not renewing, you're done. That gives us virtually no time 150 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:44,540 to find a new administrator. That gives the existing administrator virtually no time to find 151 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:52,660 other employment. I think the six month clause is adequate. Secondly, I don't see it as an 152 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:59,980 action item. It's not an action item unless we're willing to to take advantage of it. So I've no 153 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,740 Nobody here, and I'm not hearing anybody. That says they have an issue with Administrator Murphy. 154 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:13,860 Why they need to speak up now at the final hour. The six month notice is in the contract. 155 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:19,920 The contract has existed for two years. In that two year period, it has not been bought 156 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,860 up until the final hour. If someone wanted to terminate the contract, it should have been 157 00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:30,800 discussed and bought up, then we could bring it up. I'm not hearing anybody saying they 158 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:39,000 wanted to eliminate the contract. And I'll sound a bit redundant because this contract 159 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,560 has been under review multiple times, multiple times at significant expense, and multiple 160 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,160 times has been shown to be valid and legal. 161 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:53,300 I think administrative move we have done an 162 00:15:53,300 --> 00:16:01,500 outstanding job as administrator, as everybody else has said. I see no reason to take any action. 163 00:16:02,180 --> 00:16:07,420 The only reason to have this on the agenda would have been to take action and to say, 164 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,060 well, it's an action item so the commissioners need to know. Is there any commission here that 165 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:15,240 doesn't have or hasn't had a copy of this contract? 166 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,080 If there are none, why didn't they read that? 167 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Why didn't they know that before? 168 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,500 It's not all of a sudden actual action item. 169 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,060 It's an item that has been in existence for two years. 170 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:38,280 To say that we burden a future commission with the non-action, 171 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:41,460 if you would now, because we are lame duck, 172 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,580 then why are we voting on that budget here shortly? 173 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:48,780 Why are we voting on a multi-million dollar budget 174 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:50,840 and that will affect the next commission. 175 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:54,080 That doesn't make sense. 176 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,140 That's to say lame duck commissioners 177 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:57,360 that just set their chairs, 178 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,960 have a meeting for the rest of their tenure 179 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,180 and open a meeting, close a meeting, go home. 180 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,820 If your lame duck commissioners can vote, 181 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,760 you still have a responsibility. 182 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,320 So I, for one, I'm angry when I saw it, 183 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,800 I'm angry now that it had even was even bought up 184 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,920 unless there was gonna be some action taken on it. 185 00:17:22,810 --> 00:17:23,470 We're the comment. 186 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:31,680 Okay, here you go. I got a question. Yes, sir. Minerow, what's the extent of the 187 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:37,440 I don't know the length. The length of it. I don't think it's the entirety of the contract. 188 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:46,220 Administrator Bussamick has a three-year contract and every year upon his evaluation another year is 189 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:50,680 added. So his contract continues to be a three-year contract. Is 190 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,240 there any other personnel business 191 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,940 we bought to this committee. Any other personnel business, 192 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,620 very none, we'll move to ways and means 193 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:12,920 for the finance report. 194 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Okay, the finance reports here in your packet and they are as of August 195 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:27,160 26th. I will start with the governmental funds and within that is the revenue for general fund. 196 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:34,280 And currently, to date, we have a budget of 37 million for the revenue totals, and we 197 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,320 are at 14 million 137,000. 198 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,020 That is approximately in total, 38% of the budgeted revenue. 199 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:46,940 As you all know, tax bills are going out and over the next few months, you're going to 200 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:49,020 see that revenue total climb. 201 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:57,140 As we move on to the expense, you can see that against a budget of 37 million, we have 202 00:18:57,140 --> 00:19:01,880 have a year-to-date actual expenditures of just over $23 million, 203 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,900 which is at about 63% of the budgeted expenses. 204 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,980 As we move on to the Fund Equity Changes Report, 205 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:13,040 again, just as a highlight of the governmental funds, 206 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,020 General Fund have year-to-date revenues of $14,137 207 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:22,620 against year-to-date expenses of $23,299,000. 208 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Moving on to your special revenue funds. 209 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:37,480 You have year-to-date revenues of 17,882,000 against year-to-date expenditures of 18,094,000. 210 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,240 We continue on to the debt service funds, which show year-to-date revenues of just over 211 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,200 1.4 million against year-to-date expenses of 1.5 million. 212 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:57,380 The Fund type capital projects fund have year-to-date revenues of $791,000 against expenditures 213 00:19:57,380 --> 00:19:58,980 of $1.1 million. 214 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,540 Moving down to the Capital Project Fund Special Assessment Districts, we have year-to-date 215 00:20:06,540 --> 00:20:11,040 revenues of $4.2 million with expenditures of $3.6 million. 216 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:17,900 So total for all of your governmental funds, you're showing year-to-date revenues of $38 217 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:25,840 $8,498,000 against expenditures of $47,687,000. 218 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,700 From here we'll move on to the proprietary funds, more specifically the enterprise funds. 219 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:34,880 These are more of your business-like funds for those of you that are wondering. 220 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:45,780 These show revenues of $21,273,000 against expenditures of $15,996,000. 221 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:53,620 Our internal service funds are showing revenues of 216,000 against expenditures of 321,000. 222 00:20:54,340 --> 00:21:05,120 So your total for your proprietary funds to date is 20,490,000 in revenues against 16,317 in expenditures. 223 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:16,120 grant total for all county funds at a beginning balance of 96,694,000 year-to-date revenues 224 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:22,840 are currently at almost 60 million year-to-date expenditures are just over 64 million. 225 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,200 And with that, if you have any questions, I will try to answer those. 226 00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:38,510 As I mentioned earlier, the bulk of the revenue that we're going to be seeing will be coming 227 00:21:38,510 --> 00:21:41,670 coming in in the next couple of months as tax bills are paid. 228 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:47,700 Questions, comments, 229 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:55,400 the fourth quarterly, allotment of appropriation, 230 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,300 Senator Murphy? 231 00:21:57,140 --> 00:21:57,940 So moved. 232 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Spoons and supporters are in discussion. 233 00:22:05,260 --> 00:22:06,480 They're not known for every say aye. 234 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:06,940 Aye. 235 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:09,360 Most same side, motion carries. 236 00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:14,340 Review of the 2025, Illinois County budget. 237 00:22:15,980 --> 00:22:17,820 So you may I'm going to come up to the podium. 238 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:18,860 It's 239 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,680 been a while since I've been on this side. 240 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:38,180 So all of you have been made aware. 241 00:22:38,420 --> 00:22:40,680 We have a draft budget we're going to be talking about today. 242 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,700 Some of you as commissioners have requested the budget workbook. 243 00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:48,840 So if you requested one, it is at your desk for your review today. 244 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:54,600 If any of you decide after hearing this proposal and some of the proposals that are coming forward 245 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,000 after this, you want a printed copy. 246 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,280 please let us know and we can get you a copy for your review. 247 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:16,740 This is a PowerPoint overview of a very detailed and lengthy process that the county has been undergoing as we have gotten to today's ability to present you with our 2025 draft budget. 248 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:20,400 So we can move forward with the slide. 249 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:23,260 There's a, we're going to be highlighting a number of things. 250 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:26,660 You have a table of contents as you can see it in your presentation. 251 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,460 This budget has been put together through a team work of people. 252 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:35,440 I would like for these individuals to stand if they are in here to be recognized. 253 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,060 Shannon Elliott, the deputy administrator. 254 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,940 Daniel Zamolzac, who is our new finance director. 255 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:46,060 Bev Aillers, our HR director. 256 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,080 Tracy Stase, our budget analyst. 257 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,140 And Jennifer Ambrose, our communications and marketing coordinator. 258 00:23:53,140 --> 00:24:02,360 All of these individuals are responsible for working with all of the departments and do a large amount of analysis in order to get what we are doing presented to you today. 259 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,920 So I just want to thank them. 260 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:13,740 So what does county government do? 261 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,040 For those of you that are commissioners, you're pretty much aware of that. 262 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:22,440 As residents, oftentimes, our residents are not necessarily as familiar with what lunaway county government is. 263 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,200 So county government provides some oversight. 264 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:32,440 We work with public works we obviously we have elections which we're in the thrust of right now 265 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,980 We have courts public safety emergency management health. There's so many different departments within the county 266 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:46,860 It takes all of these departments the ability to work together to be able to provide the services that our residents are able to enjoy 267 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,160 As we go on to the budget process there's a lot of collaborative effort that happens 268 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,880 I just mentioned some of the individuals that are responsible for helping put this budget together, 269 00:24:56,980 --> 00:25:01,000 but it also takes all of the departments, those leading the departments, 270 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,480 and their ability to understand what they have going on and what their needs are moving forward. 271 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,760 We work with them in great detail to make sure that we are able to identify their needs 272 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,560 and quantify the expenses associated with that and the determine if it's something that we can do moving forward or not. 273 00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:23,740 The budget timeline, if you recall, you approved a budget calendar back in April, which is when 274 00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:31,600 the budget team was formally put together. Through the months of May and July, the human resources 275 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,480 was putting together what we call personnel projections. This is looking at average single 276 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:45,820 position within the county, both elected and non-elected, understanding where everyone is in the 277 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:51,360 wage and compensation study, a step increase as a result of an anniversary date, assigning 278 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:58,580 a COLA adjustment in January, and taking a look at anticipated insurance increases and 279 00:25:58,580 --> 00:25:59,660 guesstimating what those are. 280 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:05,840 It takes a lot to understand the largest expenditure of the county and our largest asset, which 281 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,540 is our personnel. 282 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:10,540 So, there's a lot that needs to be done there before we can move it on to finance. 283 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,200 In the meantime, finance is working on revenue and working with the Equalization Department 284 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,680 to determine what does that look like for our biggest resource is our property taxes and trying 285 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,860 to figure out what does that look like because we have to have an idea of what our revenue looks 286 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:31,380 like before we can then put the final budget together. So once we've gotten through all that we begin 287 00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:36,600 working with the department to find out what their needs are and working all that we've put it all 288 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,440 together into a budget document which is a document that is several hundred pages long 289 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,520 And for those of you who are interested, it will be on our website so you can look at the detail behind it. 290 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,720 We are currently at the admin draft budget timeline on here, where we are present. 291 00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:59,320 Well, excuse me, we are actually at the Board of Commissioners, but we have put together in August this draft budget and are presenting it to you today. 292 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:10,140 The hope is after reviewing the budget, you've had a copy to look at and talking about it today that we will be moving this budget on to the Board of Commissioners tomorrow. 293 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:15,760 and asking that the Board of Commissioners set a public hearing in October to be able to approve 294 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,920 the budget. This goes along with the timeline that the Board of Commissioners established earlier 295 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,740 this year and then will then allow us the ability to publish this and have it available for public 296 00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:31,600 inspection. The hope is then in October we have the hearing and it will then be adopted and then we 297 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,000 can move on to regular business as we close out the end of this year. 298 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,420 So moving on is an overview 299 00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:48,560 for what you were looking at for the 2025 budget that is balanced, this is a budget that is $41,662,899. 300 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,080 Of that, we have planned to use $4.6 million in fund reserve. 301 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,780 A large portion of that is going into our capital fund. 302 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,880 We have heard the commission indicate that they want to make a priority of looking at our building infrastructure, 303 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,100 our technology needs, our vehicles, and make sure that the fundamentals of our ability 304 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,280 to operate are addressed. 305 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,760 So we are including a $3.5 million into our capital fund we're in the past that was 306 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,640 only a $1 million expenditure. 307 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,260 We also have a healthy contingency built into the budget of $1 million. 308 00:28:24,060 --> 00:28:29,660 This is a take care of any unexpected expenditures that we may see in 2025. 309 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:36,880 And last year was the first year that we moved the debt service payments out of delinquent 310 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,760 tax and into the general fund. 311 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,920 So you will see $1.2 million for those debt expenditures in the 2025 budget. 312 00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:50,470 In order to kind of project forward, we also look backwards. 313 00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:52,610 We look at trending and what have we seen. 314 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:58,390 And you can see here what the trending has been with revenues and expenditures. 315 00:28:59,330 --> 00:29:07,710 we just heard the audit report for 2023 and so we are able to actually formally identify the actual amount of revenues and the expenditures. 316 00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:14,310 For 2024, which is where we are working at right now, we are working with a budget of approximately $37 million. 317 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:19,910 And next year at this time, we'll be able to see how that actually computed out with revenues and expenses. 318 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:26,010 There's a few things I want to point out that we have seen over the last few years with our revenue and expenses. 319 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:33,910 So you may recall, in 2022, we did make a $9 million transfer out of delinquent tax into the capital fund. 320 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,380 In 2023, we saw increases in revenue as a result of some COVID funds that were coming in. 321 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:52,160 In 2024, this year, we're starting to finally see our revenues and our expenses normalize to our new normal post-COVID. 322 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,860 And as I said, in 2025 we are increasing the amount we're putting into our capital fund. 323 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,900 Investments, meaning our infrastructure, by another 2.5 million compared to what we have been 324 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:15,080 doing previously. So as we move on to the 2025 revenue considerations, I wanted to point 325 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:21,720 out that overall we are anticipating in 2025 about a 4% increase in revenue. Where does 326 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,320 that come from? The biggest portion of that as I talked about in our finance reports earlier 327 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:33,800 is from property taxes. We are expecting an increase of about 3% in property 328 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:40,580 tax values in 2025. We do try to budget conservatively to make sure that we 329 00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:45,840 are not overestimating revenue coming into the county. It's also included 330 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:54,520 includes revenue from the state which is part of our revenue sharing and then we 331 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,060 We have state and federal grants that remain consistent, and as a reminder, we manage just 332 00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:02,120 over 120 state and federal grants in the county. 333 00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:09,080 So getting into a little bit more detail of what that revenue looks like and how it's 334 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,480 broken up, there are some main classifications in which revenue is identified. 335 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:20,420 And as you can see in the top line, the property tax is a count for the majority of what we see 336 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:21,080 in revenue. 337 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:26,820 I want to point out the very bottom line here where it says other financing sources. 338 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:30,100 You're seeing 5.644 million. 339 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:36,600 That is, the revenue that comes in under other financing sources is the transfers in for 340 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:43,540 indirect cost, as well as the transfer in from fund balance to utilize towards the capital 341 00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:47,740 fund that we were talking about earlier, so that $4.6 million in total that we're bringing 342 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:51,300 from fund balance is reflected in the other financing sources. 343 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,100 So you can see over the last few years, we have been increasing that transfer in from 344 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:59,940 indirect costs and other sources to increase our revenue. 345 00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:08,970 As we move on, there's some other items that are typically talked about and when we hear 346 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:13,790 annually from the Equalization Director, what that report looks like for our property 347 00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:14,210 values. 348 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:19,050 And I wanted to include this screen so that you can see the breakdown 349 00:32:19,050 --> 00:32:23,930 between real property and personal property, as well as the priority of where 350 00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:27,130 the bulk of our revenue comes from and you can see that the bulk of our revenue 351 00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:31,390 comes from residential classifications, the second largest one is our 352 00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:36,150 agricultural classifications. One of the questions that comes to me quite often is 353 00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:40,530 when we had the pipelines go in, where's the pipeline money go? Is there a line item 354 00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:44,710 in our budget for pipeline money? The answer to that is no. There's not a line for 355 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:51,270 pipeline because that is considered property that is identified in this screen. That is considered 356 00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:56,330 and it goes to not only just the county but to all of the tax and jurisdictions where that pipeline 357 00:32:56,790 --> 00:33:03,370 runs. So I wanted to make sure that was identified here. As we move on to some of the other items that 358 00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:09,910 revenue comes from, there is something that came around a few years ago called the local community 359 00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:14,790 stabilization fund. This is a replacement form of revenue that the state is 360 00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:18,170 providing us as they have allowed small businesses to increase their 361 00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:23,390 exemption in personal property tax revenue. This is fairly consistent and we've 362 00:33:23,390 --> 00:33:30,390 budgeted about $1.1 million in revenue for this purpose. Anyone who's been 363 00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,570 watching what's going on at the legislature you can see where MAC has been 364 00:33:34,570 --> 00:33:38,410 advocating on behalf of county governments to come up with a better formula for 365 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:45,890 revenue sharing. Currently, we have received our funding notification from the State of Michigan 366 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:52,710 that we will be receiving about $2.6 million in revenue sharing, which is about a 7.9 percent 367 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:59,290 increase over last year. And the other big one that we're asked about a lot of times is the 368 00:33:59,290 --> 00:34:06,370 marijuana tax revenue. Well, I'll indicate there are two forms of marijuana money that comes 369 00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:12,470 in the first is medical. That was when people had their medical marijuana cards. That funding 370 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:17,950 that comes in is dedicated specifically to the Sheriff's Department. However, that funding has 371 00:34:17,950 --> 00:34:24,970 gone down drastically since recreational marijuana became allowable, I will say, in the state of Michigan. 372 00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:33,650 So we are budgeting conservatively of about $801,000 in revenue. We are waiting to see how this revenue 373 00:34:33,650 --> 00:34:39,170 may be impacted as Ohio has started to change their state laws and since we are a border 374 00:34:39,170 --> 00:34:41,890 county we're waiting to see what that will look like going forward. 375 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:51,080 So as we move on to some of the 2025 expense considerations, on the expenditure side we have seen 376 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:58,780 an overall increase of about 11% in increases compared to last year. That is a result of a number 377 00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:04,460 of different things. Personnel is a large portion of that. It has increased by about 2.25 million. 378 00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:09,580 And if those of you that have a workbook, if you look under tab six of that workbook, 379 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:13,140 you're going to see where a lot of those positions and stuff are coming from. 380 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,860 Because we have done some additional staffing, some additional staffing is included 381 00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:19,280 in the 2025 budget. 382 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:21,720 We do have a few positions. 383 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,300 We also have a couple of offices that are going through a total reorganization. 384 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,740 Those are included in your, in this budget. 385 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:34,920 That only did we have a wage and compensation study, which the first year took effect 386 00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:40,360 in 2024, and so it will be the second year of those changes in 2025. 387 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,880 We also did a study on all of the elected positions, commissioner positions as well 388 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,580 as the other elected that we have in the county. 389 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:55,060 Those recommendations that were voted on earlier this year have been included in the compensation 390 00:35:55,060 --> 00:36:00,900 study for 2025, and not only is that for as commissioners, not only the wages, but any changes 391 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:06,200 that we made to produce or anything else that would have happened throughout that recommendation. 392 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:13,180 Also, we have budgeted an increase in our health insurance premium. When we were preparing 393 00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:20,660 the budget, we did budget a 10% increase in that premium. Good news. You will be getting more 394 00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:26,240 detail on this next month, but we have preliminary numbers that it looks like the overall blended 395 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:30,580 increase for the county is going to be just under eight and a half percent. 396 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,940 So we do have a little bit of extra budget in the budget. 397 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,420 We also are seeing some increases in non personnel expenses. 398 00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:43,960 As I mentioned, we're putting extra money into the capital fund this year. 399 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,660 That amount will be going directly into the contingency fund, 400 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,220 that extra to allow the full board to use that funding for any kind of infrastructure 401 00:36:53,220 --> 00:36:58,100 improvement that it has, as well as we walk through the considerations of what we are 402 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:02,740 going to do with the judicial building. We know that we're going to have some expenditures 403 00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:07,260 there, so that is what we're trying to plan for through the budget process. And then, of course, 404 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:10,500 we do have our normal inflationary cost of operations. 405 00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:17,570 General fund is also divided into various 406 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:24,650 functions of government. We've got the legislative judicial. You can read these up here. One of the 407 00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:32,210 questions that are often asked is what is under the health and welfare because that's a big number? 408 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:38,490 And under this function you're going to see the medical examiner, the health department, 409 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:46,950 veterans affairs, MSU extension, department aging, some of those offices you're seeing contained in 410 00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:53,490 that line item. The other one is community and economic development. Although we don't have much 411 00:37:53,490 --> 00:37:58,950 there. I did want to pull that out. That is actually more of the land bank and housing and 412 00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:02,570 stuff like that. That's what's classified in the community and economic development right now. 413 00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:11,890 So I just wanted to kind of point out that the fund expenses are contained in all these various 414 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:21,370 different functions, which is bringing us to our $41,662,000 2025 proposed budget. As we move on to 415 00:38:21,370 --> 00:38:28,650 the debt service. This is where we have, we currently have two bonds that we are continuing 416 00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:35,810 to pay on a few years ago. We did some improvements to the Sheriff's Office. So we do have a 2018 417 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:45,270 bond for that. That final payment will not be until 2038. And in 2020, we implemented a bond 418 00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:50,630 for the restoration and renovations of the old courthouse. That final payment will not be 419 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:58,310 until 2040. I am very excited about the due diligence on behalf of the commissioners 420 00:38:58,310 --> 00:39:06,990 that we are able to do a $20 million improvement to Morisphere Campus without incurring an additional 421 00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:12,950 bond on behalf of our taxpayers. So we will continue with these two bonds as we are able to make 422 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:21,400 major improvements at Morisphere Campus. As we move on to basically a summary of the budget 423 00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:28,920 The 2025 budget is balanced, although we are using some of our fund balance. 424 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:34,500 You did also hear that we did put a little bit back as part of our audit process, and 425 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:38,560 we are trying to use this to look forward to our infrastructure improvements that we know 426 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,080 that we have. 427 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,920 We have worked with every single department within the county. 428 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,440 We have held meetings with almost every single department brought them in, reviewed their 429 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,500 their budgets line by line to make sure that we are all on the same page. We're 430 00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:57,600 appropriate and we're helpful to the individual departments. We have added more 431 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,760 detailed account numbering so that we could identify costs more easily. All of 432 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,400 the personnel projections that I have listed earlier have been included and all 433 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,720 non-general funds appropriations have also been considered and included in your 434 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:21,200 budget. If you have any questions, I will try to answer those. Oh, I'm sorry. I have one more 435 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,220 screen or two. I got excited. Future considerations. This is important. As we move forward, we were just 436 00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:31,600 talking about the board that may be coming on in January and what they're going to be looking at. 437 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:38,800 This Human Services Committee has actually brought forward the thought of doing a 438 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,160 Lennon Way County's strategic plan. This is for Lennon Way County government for 2025. 439 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:51,560 The administrator's budget does include $50,000 to put towards that sort of planning. 440 00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:56,580 So we will look to see what that looks like as we move forward into 2025. 441 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,900 We have considerations that the Rex B. Martin's judicial building. 442 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:07,040 We did have a study performed and evaluation and some ideas of what that could look like, 443 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,940 But what we will move forward doing is yet to be determined, but we do know that whatever 444 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:15,140 we do is going to cost money. 445 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,460 The collective bargaining agreements will still be impacting the budgets going forward. 446 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920 Those were brought into consideration for 2025. 447 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:28,720 They were three year bargaining agreements that were settled in 2023. 448 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:33,300 So we will be dealing with those collective bargaining agreements over the next few years. 449 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:43,220 And of course, as we continue to look at infrastructure and you're going to hear me say this, we will continue to build what we can into the capital fund for those improvements. 450 00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:48,630 I don't know whose telephone that is, but you might want to get it. 451 00:41:51,990 --> 00:42:03,490 So the next steps, as I mentioned earlier, would be if this commission would so deem is to recommend the 2025 draft budget to the board of commissioners for publication. 452 00:42:03,490 --> 00:42:07,730 and to hold the public hearing on Wednesday, October 9th, 2024. 453 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:11,910 And with that, I will answer any questions that you may have. 454 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:21,760 Before I begin discussion, I'll ask for a motion to accept and forward it to the full board and then we can have discussion. 455 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:22,680 Full motion. 456 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,680 The motion is supported. 457 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,780 Now is your discussion. 458 00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:26,540 Questions? 459 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Mr. Martin. 460 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,160 I just want to say again, I appreciate the time you've taken with us in the last two years to review the budget. 461 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,100 I think that's been very useful to give us a good baseline of understanding as we worked on that together. 462 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,660 It's been a very collaborative process. 463 00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:47,080 I'm also very pleased with your plan to try to forward budget for the any improvements to the courthouse. 464 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,240 I think that's very sound policy and I'm glad we're taking that approach. 465 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:52,060 For 466 00:42:55,330 --> 00:42:59,130 the questions, kind of, Mr. Stimson. 467 00:43:00,670 --> 00:43:07,690 Again, I echo the commentary that you've done an excellent job, your staff has done an excellent job, and the departments have done an excellent job. 468 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:14,470 I want to point out one particular fact that if you look at that budget, you're a little over 2% of debt service. 469 00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:15,730 That's it. 470 00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:21,110 Meaning of all the county funds going back decades, 471 00:43:21,110 --> 00:43:28,030 This administration, these commissioners who have been here for decades, have been very, very responsible with money. 472 00:43:28,850 --> 00:43:36,390 If you look at most private enterprises or even governmental enterprises, they have way more debt service than 2% of their total dollar. 473 00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:38,030 That's amazing. 474 00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:44,270 Questions, comments? 475 00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:51,690 that's being done. All those in favor say hi. Oh, same side motion carries. 476 00:43:53,070 --> 00:44:02,210 Moving down to the E at 911 five years strategic plan. Everybody has received a copy of the capital fund. 477 00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:08,650 Oh, I'm sorry. Let's keep my record. We're at the capital improvement plan by mistake. 478 00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:13,010 That's okay. It's a tall order to follow the administrator. 479 00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:22,890 I'm warning commissioners, you will find in your budget books should you have one under tab seven, the capital improvement plan, the proposed capital improvement plan, excuse me. 480 00:44:23,610 --> 00:44:30,930 The capital improvement plan projects out five years in areas such as infrastructure, IT, county vehicles and department projects. 481 00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:38,570 Creating the capital plan assists the county in future forecasting and allows for a more seamless resource delivery service to the residents of Lenaway County. 482 00:44:38,570 --> 00:44:51,070 The 2025 capital budget proposes a $3.5 million allocation from the general fund with a 216,500 coming from other funds for a project total of just over $3.7 million. 483 00:44:52,210 --> 00:44:56,390 If you're looking at your budget summary, you could move down to that. 484 00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:29,840 The operational budget for 2025 is broken down by division. You will see the building and site division has a total of $654,985 with $200,500 coming from the meeting from the human services building, fund for the lot, seal, meeting and panels and interior and a capital distribution in the amount of $454,485. This distribution will cover various building infrastructure needs throughout the county and can see into $20,000 contingency. 485 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,940 As well as two department requests for the jail, a control center, and the amount of $50,000, 486 00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:39,940 and a restructure of the emergency operations center for emergency management in the amount 487 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:41,440 of $24,500. 488 00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:46,840 Moving down to the risk of your campus division, you will see that is a request in the amount 489 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,620 of $200,119, again, with the $20,000 contingency bill to end. 490 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,120 This request will cover things for the administrative building, exterior border, cocks, seal, things 491 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:03,180 of that nature as well as roof replacement for the existing detention facility. Nothing to do with 492 00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:09,240 the expansion or remodel of Reese for campus. The park division has a division total in the 493 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:16,520 amount of $105,606 with a building contingency of $5,000. This will address various projects in 494 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,320 Garber Park as well as the basketball slash pickup ball resurfacing at Medina Park. This total also 495 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,980 So as an 8,606 dollars to the fund balance for future projects. 496 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:29,160 As we're again, we're forecasting out her parks. 497 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:36,880 We recognize that there is a need to put more funding into our parks, as well as for our parks survey and our parks plan, which we've heard from our residents. 498 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,980 They would like some more infrastructure built into our parks. 499 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:50,060 The IT division has a total of 235,000 with a $25,000 contingency for several projects such as computer replacement for accounting employees. 500 00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:54,600 Excuse me, not all county employees, but it's a rolling replacement for county employees 501 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,720 and departments, as well as several projects such as Cisco agreements and replacements. 502 00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:06,240 The Sheriff's Vehicle Division has a total of $405,200 for the purchase of four vehicles, 503 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:11,240 and then we have our lease obligations, as you can see for the years 1921 and 23. 504 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,680 We are moving towards no longer leasing vehicles, just purchasing them outright, so we will see 505 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,640 those legacy costs continue to fall off, 506 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,080 allowing for a little more flexibility 507 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,640 in the purchase of those vehicles. 508 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,780 Building and grounds vehicle division has a department 509 00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:28,720 total of 78,590 with a capital distribution, 510 00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:31,160 the amount of 62,590. 511 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,120 There is also an allocation from parks 512 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,560 and the human services building in the amount of $16,000. 513 00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:41,720 And again, the allocation is utilized because those two entities 514 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,280 often utilize the building and grounds vehicles, 515 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,640 bills, plows, trucks, all those kinds of things, if you will. 516 00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:53,140 Vehicles other department has a proposed distribution of $20,000 for the replacement of vehicles 517 00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:54,340 within other county departments. 518 00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:56,800 You will see that there's not a request there currently. 519 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920 However, we do have some aging vehicles in some of the other departments. 520 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,040 Again, those departments are trying to be as frugal as possible with expenditures, but we 521 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,880 do want to make sure that we have some money in case something should happen in the interim 522 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,640 of the capital plan. 523 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:16,760 To come see products, division has $17,000 for grounds keeping throughout the year. 524 00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:20,560 We've been monitoring our expenditures at the Come See products site and we feel that 525 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,580 $17,000 is a good place to stay or bush hogging, mowing, all of those kinds of things. 526 00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:30,300 And lastly, we've been discussing an administrative murky, took a lot of my thunder and that's 527 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,840 when she talked about the capital improvement plan, but we've talked a lot about large projects 528 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,820 in the horizon for Lenaway County and again, she's specifically called out one of the judicial 529 00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:40,460 additional building, the rest of the martin judicial building. 530 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,120 We know that something must take place there. 531 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:47,740 We had a need assessment that showed that there are significant operational deficits within 532 00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:48,260 that building. 533 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,340 And so something will have to take place in the future, whether near or the next five years. 534 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,460 And so what we were able to do is put $2 million in the contingency component of the capital 535 00:48:57,460 --> 00:49:03,240 fund to plan for those large expenditures that we know are on the horizon for Lenaway County. 536 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,940 And that reduces what we'll have to put on our taxpayers. 537 00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:20,460 So, again, having that too many contingency allows us to plan, utilize different mechanisms for example the needs assessment in itself was really helpful to understand where we have those deficits in the judicial building as opposed to just kind of going in and starting to build and make additions. 538 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:28,320 Now we actually have an idea, if you will, of where those deficits really lie and how do we address those deficits, not in the short term but in the long term. 539 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,020 So that can be really helpful for us moving forward. 540 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:44,820 You will also find in the appendices of this plan, you will find the airports five-year plan from 2025 to 2030 with expenditures as well as funding sources for what the airport plan would look like. 541 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:53,900 Previously, this mission had asked that we blend these two entities and we have one place for our projected long-term plans, our capital plan, our airport plan. 542 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:55,660 and then the following will kind of see B, 543 00:49:56,020 --> 00:49:58,960 excuse me, appendix B, you will see the 911 surcharge. 544 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,380 That is an executive summary of that plan 545 00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:03,260 as you will, that plan will be presented to you. 546 00:50:03,860 --> 00:50:05,620 Immediately after me is Commissioner Collins 547 00:50:05,620 --> 00:50:07,260 called that, called for that. 548 00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:10,160 There is no action requested of you today. 549 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,800 As you know, you heard from Administrator Murphy 550 00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:16,820 that this, the capital plan is built into the overall 2025 budget 551 00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:19,920 and upon should you adopt the 2025 budget, 552 00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:22,640 you will be adopting this capital improvement plan as well. 553 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,120 But I can answer any questions, or I will attempt to answer any questions, should you have them? 554 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,760 I think it's better require the action. 555 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,820 That's correct. 556 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,220 And stated before, this does not require action at this time. 557 00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:44,160 So for any questions or comments, that was the time. 558 00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:50,220 During that, thank you. 559 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,040 We will now, to the E-9-1-1 strategic five-year plan. 560 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,340 I assume you all have a copy of the plan. I've received it a chance to review it. 561 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,460 I'll entertain a motion before we have discussion. 562 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:08,000 Report. 563 00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:11,700 It's moved and supported. Now is there any discussion or questions? 564 00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:19,230 During none, all those in favor say aye. 565 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:19,670 Aye. 566 00:51:20,170 --> 00:51:22,830 Oh, same sign. Motion carries. Thank you. 567 00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:23,690 All right. 568 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:25,590 I like those. 569 00:51:25,850 --> 00:51:26,010 Yes. 570 00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:35,530 We move now to the Mr. Michigan Neighborhood Grant, Mr. 571 00:51:35,650 --> 00:51:35,870 Murphy. 572 00:51:40,610 --> 00:51:43,430 Sorry, that is off of the agenda. 573 00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:49,510 The reason for that is that there was some confusion between the granting authority and 574 00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:56,070 the county on the documentation that we needed in order to act on that today. 575 00:51:56,070 --> 00:52:05,310 So we are working with Mishda today on that my neighborhood grant application to try to get the appropriate documentation if we do get it. 576 00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:11,450 It will be on your agenda tomorrow for consideration for those of you that are not aware. 577 00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:20,250 We have verbally been advised that we may have a $75,000 grant available to us for Gerber Park. 578 00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:25,890 work. So that is something that we are working towards. We just need to get the finalized paperwork 579 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:31,870 so that we can get your authority to approve that, to accept that grant and to move forward 580 00:52:31,870 --> 00:52:34,530 with the process. So more to come on that tomorrow. 581 00:52:37,710 --> 00:52:44,530 Questions, comments? Hearing none, we'll move to the energy efficiency request. 582 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,320 Again, 583 00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:06,440 are we not being asked to act on this today? 584 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,320 That's what I thought. 585 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:10,420 I'm sorry. 586 00:53:10,660 --> 00:53:11,940 It's a review and it's not in time. 587 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,180 I'm sorry. 588 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:12,720 Okay. 589 00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:15,540 I move that we reject the solar part of this proposal. 590 00:53:16,220 --> 00:53:16,480 Support. 591 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,160 I'm sure you say that you reject the solar portion of the solar part. 592 00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:21,900 Is that too? 593 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,940 Is that to say except the... 594 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,300 No, I'm husband. 595 00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:26,920 I just addressing that one part. 596 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:27,280 Okay. 597 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:32,180 Mr. Simpson, I just a point of order. 598 00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:39,440 I think the proper process would be to either approve positively a motion forward on what you do except 599 00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:42,240 rather than a 600 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:50,000 negative motion that elicits some sort of other aspect because that's that's the typical manner in which you would do it correctly under Robert's rules 601 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:56,320 You can check with our parliamentarian if I'm out of order, but I think that's the proper way to do that. I'll turn it a little 602 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,480 And my within legal balance with my motion. 603 00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:08,900 I believe the commissioner Stimson, the way it was presented in the agenda packet is that the request was to review and consider the specific proposals generated. 604 00:54:09,740 --> 00:54:15,120 You are certainly within your right to move to reject the proposal submitted. 605 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:23,300 And then it would be much more feasible, so to speak, to go back to the drawing board and consider other options. 606 00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:24,740 questions. Do 607 00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:33,560 we have a motion to reject the solar portion, other proposal, Mr. Stemson? 608 00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:38,620 I think just what I'm trying to get at is what should be said is that if you want to reject 609 00:54:38,620 --> 00:54:43,840 a proposal fine, then you need to put for a positive motion of I wish to accept X, Y, 610 00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:48,680 and Z Commissioner Mardis. That's really where I'm getting at. So there's a positive motion 611 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,060 on the floor that can be voted on. When you say something as big as the solar part, you're 612 00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:57,680 unclear in your motion, which is why I'm asking for clarification and point of 613 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:04,140 point. Again, attorney Galuli, is my motion clear? Is it legally defensible? 614 00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:15,430 Your motion is clear to me without a doubt. I still think it would be better, 615 00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:22,530 sort of as an in-between to both proposals. The proposed recommendation was to vote on the 616 00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:31,990 proposal generated by Verigee. If you're not satisfied with the proposals generated by Verigee, 617 00:55:32,270 --> 00:55:41,090 my recommendation would be a motion to decline the proposal submitted and then bring up a motion 618 00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:49,650 to that which you would approve. If I may amend my motion, is that acceptable now? Does 619 00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:51,050 does not have to withdraw his second. 620 00:55:53,330 --> 00:56:00,430 You can amend it with approval of the supporting individual or you can withdraw your motion. 621 00:56:01,770 --> 00:56:04,210 Can I amend it with your approval, Commissioner Crandy? 622 00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:05,690 Yes, sir. 623 00:56:06,070 --> 00:56:06,530 Thank you, sir. 624 00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:13,570 I amend my motion to say I move that we reject the solar portion of this proposal and delay 625 00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:18,350 any action on the lighting portion until we receive two additional bids from local contractors. 626 00:56:19,070 --> 00:56:19,750 support. 627 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:30,220 Been moved and supported that we reject the proposals as it relates to the solar 628 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:39,500 portion and defer the request on the lighting and tell such time as we have two competitive 629 00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:48,000 bids. My question I would submit is what is your most to say if we don't get to if we 630 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,440 one. 631 00:56:51,230 --> 00:56:53,790 I stand by my motion and I can answer that question. 632 00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:58,920 Mr. Vendorn. 633 00:57:01,940 --> 00:57:07,860 Thank you. We have some discussion about this prior to the meeting. So did you have a chance? 634 00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:16,800 Administrator Murphy looked at the contract to see if there's any clause in there about getting additional people to bid on it. 635 00:57:17,660 --> 00:57:22,760 I'm sorry. Did we who's we and when did we recognize the administer recognized? I'm sorry. 636 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,200 All right. Okay. I'll clarify that. The administrator and I. 637 00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:33,710 So should you decide not to go forward with this project, there's a letter in your packet. 638 00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:36,930 It's called the letter of intent. We will need to repay 639 00:57:37,570 --> 00:57:42,230 Verigee for the worth that they've done, and that is the amount of $29,250. 640 00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:50,850 As it applies to the bidding, I think it's important to recognize that this project as part 641 00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:56,590 of variegies, due diligence, did bid it through what's called, I'm going to get this 642 00:57:56,590 --> 00:58:05,030 wrong, GP1-1GP, okay, which is very similar to the Michigan Mydeals that more of us 643 00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:11,290 are familiar with, where the state does receive bids and then they post the low bid and that's 644 00:58:11,290 --> 00:58:16,510 how we oftentimes purchase vehicles or other services. There is a very similar service which 645 00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:23,890 the county is a member of or these types of services and it has been vetted through that service. 646 00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:30,890 So any vendor who wishes to bid on projects, lighting projects, solar projects, 647 00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:35,530 anything that falls into the realm of what we're speaking of today has the ability to submit 648 00:58:35,530 --> 00:58:41,710 bids on what their prices would be and then to be considered. So although we did not specifically 649 00:58:41,710 --> 00:58:48,630 as a county go out and ask local bidders to bid specifically on a particular project, 650 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:54,650 much like we have done with other projects where we purchase vehicles and don't put out an RFP, 651 00:58:55,330 --> 00:58:57,870 it has been vetted through this agency. 652 00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:04,970 So I'll follow up on that, sorry, just so basically my understanding of what you just told me 653 00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:17,810 is that our liability is the extent of the original liability where we said that if we reject the project we owe 30 whatever the amount is that's the amount of our liability. 654 00:59:18,190 --> 00:59:20,610 That is the amount we would owe back to Verigee correct. 655 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:28,870 Otherwise, if we accepted it, then that would have been included in the bid process and absorbed within the bill, right? 656 00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:33,010 That is included in the cost that we would have to pay for the project, yes. 657 00:59:33,010 --> 00:59:33,130 Yes. 658 00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:33,870 Thank you. 659 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,040 Let me boil the stock order further. 660 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:45,360 Obviously, to reiterate what Ms. Radorn said, if we refuse in totem, then we have to pay 661 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,240 very GD $30 plus $1,000. 662 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,880 And let me go further and boil the stock if I can. 663 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,640 Other entities have had the opportunity to bid on this. 664 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,980 So, I want to make clear, we did, we, it's- 665 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,880 The county did not put out an RFP saying Lenaway County may have this project and may be looking for bidders. However, we don't do that with vehicles either when we are considering the mydeal contract because the state already bids all of that out and says, here's the product it has been vetted and this is the best price available to you. That is the same situation with this organization in that for the lighting or for the solar or for any of the other types of services. 666 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:38,140 that are providers of this contract, they have already bid out the specific product and so if we 667 01:00:38,140 --> 01:00:45,040 were to go with what Verigee is quoting, they are pulling that bid from that particular program. 668 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:52,220 So, in a sense, we would not have to do another RFP because it's already been vetted by another 669 01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:58,720 this other agency. Mr. Martin. Just to be clear, I have no problem with Verigee doing the lighting 670 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:10,780 base of this project, I simply want a couple independent vids to prove that we're paying fair market value, and it may be entirely possible that a couple of local contractors can save us the $30,000 671 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:22,520 dollar feasibility payment that we're at risk right now. And until we ultimately reject the entire project, I don't believe we're going to be encumbered by that, but right now we don't know. 672 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:29,220 We don't have any competitive bids on the lighting side to know whether or not their numbers are as good as we can get for the taxpayers. 673 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:46,900 I think what I understood Minister Murphy to tell me is that it has already been vetted to know that this is in fact the best pricing for this specific project through the third party agency, which is pretty commonly done in projects like this. 674 01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:52,860 Not to mention all the aspects that are associated with our past dealings with Verigee and their 675 01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:56,900 predecessors and interests in the work they've done all over the county as a preferred vendor. 676 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,840 We could all vote no on this particular motion and then we have the opportunity to turn around 677 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,920 and offer a motion approving the lighting portion of this without all the conditions 678 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,200 that were proposed by the motion in support. That is something that would still be allowable, 679 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,120 would avoid any of the penalties associated with it, and we can move forward right away 680 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,340 and try to get those done with the incentives that are in place, which is a big part of this. 681 01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:26,640 This feels like a delay tactic in order to just push it off to another time period. 682 01:02:26,780 --> 01:02:31,160 This project was before us two, three months ago, and we wanted to make sure it had as due diligence 683 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,860 and some people had time to look at it. And what we found is it has been embedded and has gone out 684 01:02:35,860 --> 01:02:40,220 for the lowest bid, and we're still here today to move forward on the project one way or the other. 685 01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:47,980 I mean, I know that I will be voting no on this motion and then if it fails, I will be offering a motion to approve the lighting portion of this contract immediately. 686 01:02:50,060 --> 01:02:55,820 So let me, let me ask her, you know, I'm not so much for clarification, maybe just statement. 687 01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:04,000 If in fact, we neglect this, excuse me, refuse this, because we don't have competitive bits, 688 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:10,520 We're going to do so also when we buy vehicles off the statement, we're going to ask local 689 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:17,040 car dealers for competitive bids, but it's the same thing, it's the same comparison. 690 01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:19,560 Mr. Krasnick. 691 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:27,500 That comparison to a labor-filled project to an item that is commonly purchased by local 692 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:33,360 units of the government, like a law enforcement vehicle, is not even close to being germane. 693 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:42,780 When you're talking of millions of cars that are produced and put out there has nothing to do with how much it's going to cost to change a light bulb in different facilities. 694 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,200 So I do not accept that association at all. 695 01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:54,180 We don't buy millions of cars and I will stand by my position even though this is labor intensive. 696 01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:59,220 It is vetted through the state program much the same as a vehicle purchase. 697 01:03:59,220 --> 01:03:59,880 You 698 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:03,740 should tell us. 699 01:04:04,420 --> 01:04:05,260 A question. 700 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:13,780 Locally, we all like to be involved as much as possible. 701 01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:17,980 Under the state guidelines, 702 01:04:20,260 --> 01:04:26,240 does people in our local Lenaway County 703 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:36,780 and engage with the state as to bidding situation like this. 704 01:04:37,060 --> 01:04:37,380 Arditelle. 705 01:04:40,090 --> 01:04:43,710 It's my understanding that that is available to anybody within the county. 706 01:04:44,350 --> 01:04:48,950 As it relates to vehicles, for example, I can tell you from previous experience. 707 01:04:49,610 --> 01:04:52,270 The state that's out the vehicles. 708 01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:59,670 and let's say, well, back to the older days, it was a Chevy Caprice, and they will pick 709 01:04:59,670 --> 01:05:05,530 dealers who will submit bids also. Those dealers would have to comply with the state-bid 710 01:05:05,530 --> 01:05:09,930 program, and all dealers will. In fact, most dealers won't, because that's a lower price. 711 01:05:10,890 --> 01:05:17,610 So the opportunities exist there for them to make sure to tell us about that. 712 01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:21,830 And that's what I'm trying to find out 713 01:05:22,550 --> 01:05:30,870 is to local people have to belong to this state organization 714 01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:33,550 in order to bid and rat. 715 01:05:35,710 --> 01:05:37,170 I just don't understand. 716 01:05:37,230 --> 01:05:37,750 Mr. Mandor. 717 01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:41,770 I think it's a much like the process 718 01:05:41,770 --> 01:05:45,890 where they put this out Ralph and everyone has an opportunity 719 01:05:45,890 --> 01:05:46,710 to do it. 720 01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:51,270 but they just put a general RFP out and bring them in, 721 01:05:51,350 --> 01:05:54,790 but I happen to agree with Commissioner Crazney 722 01:05:54,790 --> 01:05:58,110 to some extent in the fact that automobiles 723 01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:01,130 versus getting down into electrical suppliers 724 01:06:01,130 --> 01:06:04,170 here in Oneway County, they probably, 725 01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:06,230 there's so many of them that they probably 726 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:08,950 don't even get involved in the state building. 727 01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:10,850 Maybe that's their fault, maybe they should 728 01:06:10,850 --> 01:06:12,630 and then they've been involved in this, so. 729 01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:25,150 but the fact that, you know, the state knows that they contacted every one of them to see if they wanted to bid on it, probably in most of them in Loneway County or not. 730 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,020 For the questions, comments. 731 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,520 We have the motion read again for clarification. 732 01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:36,790 Do you have it? 733 01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:44,040 The original motion. 734 01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:54,280 by Commissioner Morris was to reject the solar portion of the proposal. The motion was amended 735 01:06:55,090 --> 01:07:02,120 to reject the solar portion of the proposal and change the current proposal to obtain two 736 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:08,640 additional bids from local contractors. Is there any question on the motion? Is it cleared everyone? 737 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,420 just to be clear, are we voting on the amendment first? 738 01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,580 That's the only motion that's pending is the amended motion. 739 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,420 There's no other motion available. 740 01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:24,840 It's not an amended to the first motion. 741 01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,040 It is. It's an amended motion. 742 01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:29,280 The first motion was amended. 743 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,900 That means the first motion was taken off the table. 744 01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:32,680 Okay. 745 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,860 The only thing you're voting on is the. 746 01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:35,440 With you. 747 01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:36,760 Thank you. 748 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:37,940 For the questions. 749 01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:45,280 There's an indication, there ain't none, nor a roll call vote, roll call. 750 01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,460 Commissioner Bales, 751 01:07:50,970 --> 01:07:58,090 Commissioner Bolton, no, Commissioner Collins, no, Commissioner Crasney, 752 01:07:59,710 --> 01:08:06,690 Commissioner Jenkins Arno, Commissioner Mardis, yes, Commissioner Simpson, 753 01:08:09,070 --> 01:08:09,890 Commissioner Tillerson, 754 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:31,720 We move forward with the lighting portion of this contract while rejecting the solar portion. 755 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:32,100 I 756 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:42,480 don't hear a second support. 757 01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:49,460 It's moved in support that we move forward with the lighting portion of this contact and reject the solar portion. 758 01:08:54,530 --> 01:09:00,330 If I might have a friendly amendment to just approve the lighting portion and then address 759 01:09:00,330 --> 01:09:03,990 perhaps the solar portion on a third motion, I would be up to that. 760 01:09:04,990 --> 01:09:09,310 If there is so inclined, otherwise again, I will be asking to vote no, and it will offer 761 01:09:09,310 --> 01:09:13,270 a motion following that, if it's defeated, to simply pass the lighting portion. 762 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,500 There's caution. 763 01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:19,400 So 764 01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:27,070 I guess I'll move to amend the motion at this time to remove the provisions associated 765 01:09:27,070 --> 01:09:30,730 with solar and adopting only the provisions associated with lighting. 766 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,440 If that is an amendable motion in that form, it could be contradictory to the entirety. 767 01:09:37,780 --> 01:09:41,480 I go to Mr. Lulee as it relates to that aspect. 768 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:44,620 He rejected your proposed friendly amendment. 769 01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:50,600 amendment. I think your proposed motion there needs to be a vote on the maker's original motion. 770 01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:56,380 So no vote back to what I was discussing and then I could offer another motion. 771 01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:00,400 You could. We'll call vote please. 772 01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,400 Well, we were not over discussion. Commissioner, tell us. 773 01:10:05,380 --> 01:10:09,280 Before we vote, I would like to understand the motion. 774 01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:15,770 The motion before you is to move forward with the lighting portion of the project and reject the 775 01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:16,910 solar portion of the project. 776 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:18,430 That's correct. 777 01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:19,150 Yes, sir. 778 01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:19,690 You want to see. 779 01:10:21,670 --> 01:10:23,230 You have some. 780 01:10:23,230 --> 01:10:23,970 You want to say commissioner? 781 01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:24,730 No. 782 01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:26,010 Somebody here. 783 01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:26,510 All 784 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:28,680 right. 785 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,880 Let's roll call vote. 786 01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:31,980 Commissioner Bolton. 787 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,080 No. 788 01:10:35,340 --> 01:10:36,440 Commissioner Collins. 789 01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:37,980 No. 790 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:39,680 Commissioner Cresney. 791 01:10:39,980 --> 01:10:40,340 No. 792 01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:42,520 Commissioner Jenkins. 793 01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:42,900 Arnold. 794 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:44,880 I'm sorry. 795 01:10:46,780 --> 01:10:47,820 Commissioner Martis. 796 01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:48,240 Yes. 797 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,060 Commissioner Stimson. 798 01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:50,620 No. 799 01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:57,680 Commissioner Tillerson, Commissioner Vandoren, and Commissioner Bales. 800 01:10:59,260 --> 01:11:02,640 Eight knees, one yay, motion, Bales. 801 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,300 I move to adopt and approve the lighting portion of the proposal. 802 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:13,480 So far, smooth and supportive to accept the lighting portion of the proposed misery of discussion. 803 01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:21,210 Mr. President, by all that grandstanding that we just saw wasting everybody's valuable time, 804 01:11:21,390 --> 01:11:26,870 all we did is negate local companies from being able to bid on this project. 805 01:11:27,330 --> 01:11:31,230 For the public that's viewing this, for the people in the audience, that is all that took place 806 01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:34,630 through all those shenanigans that we just saw. 807 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:40,130 They're all the shenanigans we just saw, or it currently saw. 808 01:11:43,490 --> 01:11:48,550 Mr. Stimson, echo that statement, that's grandstanding. What took places, 809 01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:52,270 is what we asked for. You could have avoided that. That's just 810 01:11:52,270 --> 01:11:58,490 grandstanding and blowhardness. And it continued. You do a 811 01:11:58,490 --> 01:11:59,850 wonderful job at Commissioner Mardis. 812 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,360 Volkhovo. Volkhovo. 813 01:12:06,910 --> 01:12:09,640 We have a motion to continue with the lighting portion of this 814 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,500 project only. Commissioner Collins. Yes. 815 01:12:12,980 --> 01:12:16,600 Commissioner Crasney. No. Commissioner Jenkins Arno. 816 01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:19,340 Commissioner Mardis. 817 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:36,600 Commissioner Stimpson, Commissioner Tillerson, Commissioner Vandoren, Commissioner Bales, Commissioner Bolton, six years, three days, motion passes. 818 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,400 Mr. 819 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,880 Stipson? No, no further motion at this time. 820 01:12:46,150 --> 01:12:47,490 Any other motions to be offered? 821 01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:51,450 Thank you, sir. 822 01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:52,850 Thank you very much. 823 01:12:52,910 --> 01:12:53,150 Thank you. 824 01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:54,550 We'll do a good job for you. 825 01:12:55,170 --> 01:12:55,550 Thank you. 826 01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:55,990 Thank you. 827 01:12:57,310 --> 01:13:01,330 Okay, we move down to committee referrals and recommendations. 828 01:13:02,350 --> 01:13:06,430 There's a request for the Exxon Taser Time Track. 829 01:13:06,910 --> 01:13:07,570 Sheriff Guillaume. 830 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,820 Everybody has a copy of this request. 831 01:13:13,820 --> 01:13:21,800 The request is the approval of the axon with the axon for the upgrade of taser 10 devices. 832 01:13:23,220 --> 01:13:26,900 Just, I thought it, when I first looked at this, it's not 10 tasers. 833 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:29,420 This is the taser 10 project. 834 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,400 That's your sentence. 835 01:13:31,660 --> 01:13:32,900 Move to approve the request. 836 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,580 Support. 837 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,180 Support is a rain discussion. 838 01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:38,710 Any none? 839 01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:39,810 I would never say aye. 840 01:13:40,010 --> 01:13:40,310 Aye. 841 01:13:40,890 --> 01:13:42,410 For the same side, motion carries. 842 01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:43,130 Thank you, Sheriff. 843 01:13:43,550 --> 01:13:43,870 Thank you. 844 01:13:45,980 --> 01:13:50,980 Yeah, you're articulate today, Sheriff. Both counts. 845 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:59,420 Have we have a request for military grounds, whether approval to accept Adrien mechanical 846 01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:08,500 quote of $65,780, or the installation of eight electronic shower controls, 11 lavatory 847 01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:17,620 controls, and programming of controllers contingency of 15% over $9.87, $67. 848 01:14:17,620 --> 01:14:22,520 doubling amount of the request 75,647. 849 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:23,680 Oh my name. 850 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:24,140 Support. 851 01:14:26,270 --> 01:14:27,790 Motion support is a discussion. 852 01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:29,370 Mr. Crasney. 853 01:14:29,470 --> 01:14:30,910 Did we put this out for an open bid? 854 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,000 Building and grounds did bid this out. 855 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:35,480 I think we don't. 856 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:36,140 Just check it. 857 01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:40,600 They attached some of the bidding attachments were included in the physical resources meeting 858 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,260 which I believe we had last week. 859 01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:42,600 Right. 860 01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:44,020 Did I share it? 861 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:44,440 Thanks. 862 01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:45,720 That's because it's not a car. 863 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,940 It's enough. 864 01:14:50,180 --> 01:14:50,500 I'll see. 865 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,380 Both of you. 866 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:51,780 That's enough. 867 01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:59,960 All right, we move now to the request for the MSC Extension Project Noob Fiber 2. 868 01:15:08,350 --> 01:15:24,500 All those in favor say, hi, motion carries, we start up here. Now we will ask for the MSC extension project, Mr. Mayor Murphy. 869 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,860 This project was recommended also through building insight, and this is to recommend approval. 870 01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:37,400 So for an allocation of funding to put in a new fiber runs from MSC administration building, 871 01:15:37,820 --> 01:15:42,480 to the old detention and chapel to the things in the amount of $26,329. 872 01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:43,360 Oh. 873 01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:43,980 Sport. 874 01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:47,140 Sport is a very discussion. 875 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,840 During non-nose and paparazzi, I, both same sign, motion carries. 876 01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:03,480 Is there any other business or ways and means? 877 01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:08,780 If there are any other business or ways and means, 878 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:22,000 any additional items for the consent agenda, any additional items for the consent agenda, any none out of the board of public comment? 879 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:32,440 I just want to comment, although the budget did receive a unanimous motion to move forward 880 01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:37,620 to the Board of Commissioners, it will be shown as a separate line item on your agenda 881 01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:39,920 to take formal action for the setting and public hearing. 882 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,760 I'm on the table. 883 01:16:44,540 --> 01:16:46,700 My name is Todd Giltman, again, Cambridge Township. 884 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,940 The few things I'd like to talk to, John, a few of the commissioners talked about transparency. 885 01:16:52,920 --> 01:17:05,960 I would like to know about the lack of transparency with the sale of the to come see products especially after it was just brought to my attention that we spent $17,000 a year to maintain grounds on a piece of property that we should have sold already. 886 01:17:07,340 --> 01:17:12,260 Where was the transparency when we started when we approved cutting down trees around the airport. 887 01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:15,680 Those people in that area did not know about it until the last moment. 888 01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:29,500 I'm kind of really taken aback by we're going to use a bidding system out of Lansing and we're going to box out our local contractors and we're going to spend this kind of money. 889 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:35,520 Why don't we give local contractors the opportunity to do the job and keep the money in Lennon Way County. 890 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:46,580 There was no transparency on that you're just going off some system up in Lansing and now we're going to send that kind of money out of our county when we could have kept it in our county. 891 01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:49,860 We struggle to provide jobs in this county as it is. 892 01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:52,080 We've lost a lot of businesses over the years. 893 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,420 Where was the transparency when you guys voted to take away the road commission's health insurance. 894 01:18:00,220 --> 01:18:02,580 And then provide health insurance to the pay raise to yourself. 895 01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:07,000 There was a few members of this board that were upset that their names were going to become public. 896 01:18:07,300 --> 01:18:09,200 We're taking taxpayer funded health insurance. 897 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:15,100 They did not want that information to be known to the public, no transparency there. 898 01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:22,860 We're the transparency on Commissioner Stimson's property that joins the 899 01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:28,140 dependency products. He stands to personal money, personal gain, when that 900 01:18:28,140 --> 01:18:32,040 property is eventually sold, but it doesn't, they don't want, you guys don't want 901 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,160 to sell it for the next four years. 902 01:18:36,430 --> 01:18:40,350 I don't understand why you guys are doing 903 01:18:40,350 --> 01:18:43,870 some of the things you're doing. You don't have a problem spending other people's 904 01:18:43,870 --> 01:18:48,770 money. If you're going to spend our money, give it to people that live in the county. 905 01:18:51,380 --> 01:18:54,550 Going through some bidding system out of Lansing is unacceptable. 906 01:18:57,420 --> 01:19:00,840 Casual Republicans, act like it. Thank you. 907 01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:15,210 I have everybody. My name is Deborah Comstad. I'm the editor and publisher of the Lentaway 908 01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:21,810 Voice. One of the reasons we started this paper was because we needed objective news, 909 01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:27,790 good journalism, and we needed to heal this community with good information. 910 01:19:28,750 --> 01:19:35,110 It's tough to build a team. It's tough to find talent here. I haven't had a terrific 911 01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:43,230 team that puts out a paper that goes to 19,000 people in this county, and we haven't 912 01:19:43,230 --> 01:19:50,680 even reached our one-year anniversary. My comment is about him. She's put together a 913 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,840 terrific team here. Not hard to do. I mean, it's hard to do in 914 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,980 Illinois County. We just don't have talent. And in terms of 915 01:19:58,980 --> 01:20:02,180 bidding on projects, sometimes we don't have the talent required 916 01:20:02,180 --> 01:20:05,400 to do these big projects. We have to rely on 917 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,120 Lansing, just like we have to rely on Lansing now for solar, 918 01:20:08,580 --> 01:20:11,260 because our local talent chips were not competent, making good 919 01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:15,940 decisions. So here's my thought about it, my takeaway. When 920 01:20:15,940 --> 01:20:20,540 you got a good team, and you got good talent, and you got good 921 01:20:20,540 --> 01:20:28,850 people, you reward them, you protect them, you keep them because you know what? In this county, 922 01:20:29,010 --> 01:20:35,830 you may not be able to replace them. My thought is I value my newspaper team more than I can tell 923 01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:41,390 you because they're exquisite in their talents and we have the same thing here. I think we should stop 924 01:20:41,390 --> 01:20:46,670 quibbling about silly little contractual things and get down to the business that's in the best 925 01:20:46,670 --> 01:20:52,730 interest of this county and what's in the best interest of this county is economic development 926 01:20:53,230 --> 01:21:00,150 bringing in solar, bringing in new corporations so we can have good jobs and when we get those jobs 927 01:21:00,150 --> 01:21:05,950 and just like Adrian and Sienna has the biggest class this year ever we need to figure out how to 928 01:21:05,950 --> 01:21:13,350 keep those kids here because if we don't it's a dead zone you've got a good team I'm not here to 929 01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:17,810 recommend anything. I'm here to say when I got a good team, I take care of them. 930 01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:23,120 Any further public comment? 931 01:21:25,220 --> 01:21:27,780 Any further public comment? 932 01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:31,040 I'll go to Commissioner's comment. 933 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,080 The Commissioner's having comments to make. 934 01:21:36,140 --> 01:21:37,420 Commissioner Bolton. 935 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:45,020 I'm just extremely disappointed in myself and other commissioners not to bring up 936 01:21:45,020 --> 01:21:53,680 the motion for the solar because that is something that is the future of our community. 937 01:21:55,020 --> 01:22:02,360 And I really think that that is something that will be savings to us. 938 01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:07,220 And I think it's something that is important, especially for the human service building. 939 01:22:07,220 --> 01:22:12,200 If we can reduce the rent because of the energy that is being saved there. 940 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:19,240 If we can put in charging stations for the employee's vehicles to encourage 941 01:22:21,700 --> 01:22:28,760 clean vehicles, if we can put one in in the Sheriff Department area to encourage the 942 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,460 clean vehicles in that. 943 01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:38,560 I really think that this is something that we are missing out for our future. 944 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:44,400 So I just want to say I'm ashamed of myself for not bringing that up at that time. 945 01:22:44,980 --> 01:22:47,660 Let me pose a question for council at this time. 946 01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:55,700 There was not a motion that passed that negated the solar proposal, by correct? 947 01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:56,740 Correct. 948 01:22:57,220 --> 01:23:00,300 So that's going to exist, the proposal is going to exist. 949 01:23:00,460 --> 01:23:06,280 The proposal exists, so it would have to be brought back to the board for deliberation and vote. 950 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:13,120 So subject to the contractor willing to abide by the same terms. 951 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,560 Any further partner, excuse me, commissioner coming. 952 01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:22,960 We're in now, now we're going to entertain the motion to adjourn. 953 01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:23,300 Hello. 954 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:24,640 The board. 955 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,140 Moving supported. 956 01:23:27,300 --> 01:23:28,480 The board will never say hi. 957 01:23:28,820 --> 01:23:28,920 Hi. 958 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,140 No, same sign. 959 01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:30,980 Motion carried. 960 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,200 We are adjourned. 961 01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:33,700 Thank you. 962 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:36,240 That's it. 963 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:36,880 That's it. 964 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,780 no barriers in the bedroom.