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like to call for finance meeting for um
well
City we have one um committee which is
finance turn to Mr mud thank you madam
president um I would like to call the
finance committee to order for this
evening and this evening we are
discussing going into our budget hearing
for our 2025
budget uh um this evening we're going to
be um doing a budget review and then
we'll get into Revenue Council clerks
police fire department utility Street
lighting development codes golf fund
assessment receipt and we will also
address capital budget for the various
Department if needed so I would like to
hand this over to Mr Ferrari for a
budget
review thank you Mr M mam president city
council people uh let's say I'm welcome
to be here for our 2025 edition of the
budget I'm hoping that we all work
together here you budget here off time I
think I think we the mayor's put
together pretty good budget and uh let's
uh go through it with you um I just want
to mention there's a few Corrections in
this proposed budget of course let's
start on the fourth page uh where the
taxable assess value is the fourth page
from the beginning
it's where the where the graph is uhhuh
okay if you look under the year
2025 what page is it so is it P
Unum
yes uh under 2025 uh the New York State
Equalization rate is not 71 it should be
67% and 6
68.4 okay 68
8.45
2025
68.4 and the next line full value would
also change by
68.4 we are going to we're going to
change that when we do the adoped budget
because it's not here sorry the state
gave us that the game us that rate yeah
start1 first first I got was 71
684 by changing that from from 71 to
68.4 would that affect the it's going to
affect the full value of course it's going to be up over 3 bli
700,000 so that will drive the rates no
it doesn't affect the rates at all it
doesn't affect the r okay because it's
just a full value I just wanted to make
that clear on page 11 and what we did in
this whole budget when we have a blue
line that uh that indicates that uh we
plan to use some ARA funding for that
but on page 11 the ARA funding should
not be there that the job was for the so
Legend ER has been eliminated so there's
no need for
that we're moving that and
we on page 36 the other Blue Line AR
funding should be one R down it's not
for uh operating engineer I'm sorry what
page 36 page 36 it should be one down
for two NEOS one two NEOS for 13
1,852 P 36 yeah you got yeah I know so
you're CH you're moving all this is
197,000 you ask yeah it's going to move
down one but the total amount we're
going to use is 131
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852 it's not correct you have three here
yeah but that's incorrect it should go
down to there's only going to be
two okay yeah yeah it's going for 131
852 okay
yeah and again that'll be corrected be
done about 60 Grand 60 something Grand
all right
uh all right so uh Mr much gave me 10
minutes to go over this real quick so
I'm going to try to do a high level and
quick but I'm going to use every every
minute that he gave me okay all right uh
we're going to do uh the general fund
because that's the most important fund
that we're working with here the propos
po 2025 budget that the mayor has sent
out is for $ 116
m674
254 it's 6.31% larger than the 2024
adopted budget by
6,920
692 real the uh property tax levy is
going to be increased by
1,333
n34 and that is from our Levy from 2024
of $32 million 60,000 and our proposed
uh Levy for
2025 is 33 mil 393
394 uh this will raise the tax rate the
tax rate uh is going to go from
$12.90 to uh 13, 37 cents that's a 3%
increase okay and uh also in the budget
you're going to notice a increase in
waste collection fees uh the waste
collection fees were is proposed to r
one a week this equates to
$52 annually for a non-exempt union unit
so the units will go from $288 to 340
and this results in
1,180 679 addition additional Revenue
compared to the 2024 budget also we want
to increase uh uh exempt units uh an
additional $1.75 a week or $91 per year
and it go from the exemp UN for 137 to
228 ex exempt units have not been raised
for at least 8 years that we've been
here so I just want to do that uh we can
you clarify exempt units exempt units so
what's an exemp unit Molly it's anyone
who has an exemption that's senior low
income that's disability physical
disability and low income and uh
veterans disability and that and so they
get a reduced amount and that's for if
you have one two or three units it's
always going to be that one price one
yeah yeah do not increase for units just
the one
price so you're increasing for those
categories we want to increase for those
ceg
okay okay uh and so before so let me say
exemp does that include um non for
profits no it does not any non
for-profits that have a one two or three
family unit are charged the the trash
fee cuz they are putting trash out at
the side of the
curve so we we have corrected that in
the past it's been different but we've
corrected that because city code calls
for that so if you're not exemp if you
have one unit is 340 two units is uh
would be 680 like that except for exemp
units no matter if you have one two or
three units you're going to be two it's
going to be $228 under this
policy uh also we increased uh this if
the code fees uh are passed by the city
council uh we expect the revenues uh for
the code Department to increase by
210,000 and also in this budget uh the
police parking we anticipate an
additional 370,000 from the increase
from the
224 2024 budget uh so the increase in
code fees and police fees will increase
Revenue by 580,000 that's what we're
looking to do 58,000 total between and
police right could you tell me the
police one again please uh please is
370,000 thank you I'm going to give you
guys a copy of this whole rundown so
later okay just it's good that you take
notes so you don't forget okay uh okay
one of the things that we've done into
is that we're going to request that we
capture some ARA funds uh this the
amount of 3
82,2 78 this includes um the Carver
Community rehab of 1,250,000 uh sidewalk
program
$94,400
empowerment rehab
$54,600 we're proposing to recapture
this uh funds for the blue lines that we
put into that budget to help help us uh
for this budget and that's a total
amount of
382278 okay also in the 2025 proposed
budget we're also uh asking to use
5,465 32 and appropriated fund
balance currently the city has 18.9
million in fund balance which is made up
of uh 6.5 million of restricted
funds uh 3.8 million of assign funds and
8.6 million of unassigned funds if the
city utilizes the 5.5 million that we're
requesting uh there approximately be 3.1
million left over the time funds now
we're hoping that we don't use any of
the fund balance but you you have to put
in there to to make sure that we can you
just explain the restricted and
nonrestricted for some members who might
want okay I'm going to start with the
okay let me start with what the Capal
restricted okay the 6.5 million is uh
1.1 million for the debt Reserve we have
Capital reserves for uh if we need uh uh
to buy things that are not budgeted 4.2
million our tax Searcher rity uh uh is
621,000 in case uh you know there's no
budget money for any changes in seary uh
we have a 150,000
$157,300 for uh snow and ice in case we
have one of one of those big ice storms
like we did a few years ago where we we
had like almost a million dollars in
here we used 900,000 which did not
destroy the budget and also we have
litigation and claims for
24,99 we have uh 3.8 million in assigned
funds and the assigned funds is uh is uh 2023 purchase orders that rolled over
into 2024 plus the 3 uh 3.1 million that
we that we using for the 2024 budget if
you recall the budget so that's the
assigned funds un assigned the
unassigned fund is you know money that
we have that's not regulated that you
know we can move around if we need it
that is the portion that we're going to
use the 5.5 million out of that 8 8.6
million all right now we did a we did a
lot of revenues over there now we're
going to look at some uh high points of
I shouldn't say high points but
uh cost on expenses
and revenue yeah and in previous budgets
we continually talked about the police
department having a large amount of
unpaid parking tickets and I I haven't
been seeing that coming up in the budget
although conversations is I don't see
anyone here um is that they're doing
something about it but I don't see it
like
anywhere number I could ask for for a
briefing and that
Chief okay thank you for um and more
Revenue
questions so for line a 2025 DX last
year we didn't have anything in there
and then this year we had 1200 and um
that's Simon Park I believe it is and
how is that
determined line
2025 and the Reven
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that that how how how's that determined
that is from the uh rental of
the The Pavilion pilion and the room
they have so last year they didn't do
anything at all with that correct okay
um my other question is about line 2025
F the tenen Le ke last year was 2000
this year this year you anticipating 500
uh we're we're anticipating to do
um what's it called Rehab of the den
cour and we we F that number come from
not going to be able to use all the
quotes Okay uh we're actually I just
want to remind you guys that we're going
to go into detail
of next all right so I'm just trying to
get an overview for you the whole budget
but you know we'll take the questions as
they come uh all right uh we talked
about revenues now we're going to talk
about
expenses we're retirement for
2024 2025 proposed budget is increased
by
2,450
359 that's a 22% increase from the
adopted 2024 budget it's going from 11
Milli 161 641 to 13
million6 13.6 million this is due to
State Controllers uh calculations with
the PBA negotiated uh 384 plus the uh
fire department retirement which is you
know the biggest bulk of the of the uh
cost health insurance our health
insurance increased by 5% we're going to
go from 14, 400,000 to 15,
11246 we're we're praying that this is
going to be right there and we're
looking for instance uh for
2024 to basically just be at zero or a
small deficit so uh we're you know we
have uh you know our agents and stuff
like that actually says they're looking
at a 6 to 12% increase uh especially
because of uh specialty drugs as you all
watch on TV which uh if you see what the
costs are which someday I got to bring
them in one of these days it show what
some of these things cost you're not
going to believe what we pay
as a as a an insured as a self-insured
group okay so we talked about uh retir
going up 22% we talk about health share
going by 5% also in this budget our debt
Services increased by 211% resulting in
1,637 1880 of additional cost our debt
service has gone from 7.7 million to 9.3
million this is because we're just
borrowing more we've actually have a
plan in place where the last two years
we have not bonded we got we did bands
of ban anticipation gos that is to keep
the uh cost of Interest low and uh and we're trying to wait for the uh for
the market to be right to actually B
those monies uh we thought with this uh 5 uh half% uh decrease in Federal
Reserve uh the M will go down but the really the rates have really not
gone down as of yet we're hoping that
after election we we'll see something
happen better for for us I just want to
remind everybody too uh that what's not
in here is uh there's Union negotiations
that are in progress uh we have the fire
department local 28 we have csca and we
have Operating Engineers um we have not
anticipated or we haven't got any
anticipation from the mayor or from the
unions of what the settlement cost is so
that cost is not within our uh excuse me
and not within our budget any negotiated
cost will come out of fund balance again
okay so that those are the highlights
for the general fund let's talk about
water
funds the proposed 2025 water fund
budget is a modest 2.88% increase from
the 2024 adopted budget uh the total
budget increased by only $282,100
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with this proposed a water bu budget we
are going to use
$61,900 the proposed uh Sur fund uh
budget for 2025 is 5.5% increase uh
compared to the 2024 budget it's an
increase of
864,000
$65 again uh there is no uh rate
increase uh proposed in the SE budget uh
we are planning to use debt reserve of
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261,000 request is only a a
2.29% increase compared to
20224 doap the budget uh the whole Golf
Course budget is increased uh margely
increased by $ 35,6 65 it's been doing a
great job of Matt's been doing a great
job running it um Chris Wall has been
doing a great job overseeing uh uh the
everything that's happening so uh
looking for a modus increase
without uh and 35,000 can't beat that
okay now as you looked at our capital
budget our capital budget we have
proposals of $18 million
request and out of the $18 million $1.6
million we're going to use capital
reserve 3
362.00 in Gulf
665,000 for water 575,000 from swer
we're going to use Capital reserves oh
let's not forget 40,00
of from the Community Development Fund
we're going to use this to utilize the
reduce the total to 16 million at 38
16.38
million um I'm going to have a uh I'm
going to have uh Derek go line any line
ask any questions about revenues he's
got the highlights for
you before you go into the um let me
just open the anybody who have any
questions so I just want to recap so the
proposed budget right now carry a taxx
increase of
3% and the waste increase of $1 per week
for non-exempt units and the exempt unit
is $1.75 per
week okay thank you any questions before
we move into
Revenue but we'll be going line by line
later right okay yes yeah I did want get
a clarification when you were talking
about um you said 40,000 from
development
I don't cdbg CDG I think develop is
Right
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right any other questions com I just
want to mention too I didn't realize it
just till now until m p showed me and
the capital funds are blue lines in it
those are not
AR you sure put these in the back these
are not our sorry those are those are
whates Capital reserves that we're going
to be using on the cap in the capital
budget blue is is not our it's Capital
reserves yeah I should have did
different color I'm sorry I didn't think
about it I like the baby
blue any other questions
comments if not we'll just move into
revenue and it's over to Derek good
evening Council I'm just going going
through some R highlights for the 2025
budget um sincey
went through a couple of these uh high
level revenues uh building alteration
permits uh parking finds the uh fund
balance and uh Federal C assistance will
not be going those uh but let's first
start off with the Sal and use tax uh we
received approximately 18.4 million in
2023 we're expecting about 18 million in
2024 and we're anticipating 18.3 million
in 2025 uh these numbers also by the
county so we're spot on those uh cannab
cannabis excise tax uh we received
532,000 in 2023 expected 800,000 in 2024
and we participating approximately
850,000 in
2025
um fire protection
contract sorry I had a question Mr goad
please does that take into consideration
like the new businesses that are
currently in the P that projections yeah
we're projecting with based on the new
businesses in the pipeline thank
how many please how many how many we
determining that based on
four fire protection contract before you
sorry So currently we're
$800,000 actual on this line no we're
expecting expecting
800,000 we're still qu 3 and quarter 4
is so actual is like 580 something as of
September or that's
all well actually as of J Fe March April
May June as of June yeah CU we have to
get August but we can look up August
July August and September we haven't
gotten yet and then the last two months
that's six
months but as you can see as the new
businesses are
opening you know we're we we we feel
it's going to be increased but it's not
going to it's going to the other
business will have less these you know
people move around you know yeah all
right continue please uh the next one is
the fire protection contract um there's
a new negotiation actually I think the
uh fire department already put a
contract together with G which should be
receiving 75,000 in Revenue uh with them
uh believe the commissioner also um
talked about the trash charges so I'll
skip that as well excuse me um Derek may
I just ask where was that $75,000
fire protection contract previously in
other words it says zero across it was
in the budget but it's been I think zero
for the last few years yeah before I
think was a year or two year ago we got
a truck five years yeah five yeah we got
a truck and something else yet so we
haven't we haven't got cash before this
the first time got cash before that yeah
before that so we haven't had cash in
the last you know since prior to uh
Co okay thank you thank you D just back
up a little and let's talk about um the
pilot uh see you're 2.5 last year we um
adopted
2.55 it's almost the same with inre
basically we in then that area 2.3 2.4
2.5 so we have not really gone over that
yeah in 24 I build 2.3 yeah so we're
right we're right in that area you know
what line that that is right from the
top of the first page
a
1081 first
page
okay while while we in the subject of
Pilots is there anyone to quantify like
the monetary
gains can you I'm sorry can you ask that
again so I think just trying to
understand like the long-term benefits
of having Pilots continue is there any
way to in layman's terms well I mean I I
guess the best thing about a pilot is
every year there's a reduction in the
percentage so we're getting more every
year the problem is that we're also
getting more pilots every year so as we obtain more money from the pilot
we also have more Partnerships and more
pilots
so
yeah is there is there a standard link
of time on Pilots or depends on whether
it's a met Lex pilot or it's a Ida pilot
there is a standard for Ida Pilots it
should be 10 years though we've seen
some differences in that and then for
Metroplex Pilots
unfortunately we're I I I think it
serves really well for the city but
we're at the vein of the of Metroflex
because they can do basically whatever
they want they can have Pilots for as
long as they want and they can put them
immediately on the they don't follow the
taxable status
calendar March 1st
to uh April or excuse me February 30th
they so property is obtained Metroplex
can put a pilot on it
immediately so there there's some
nuances to both of
those um plus plus the extend Pilots to
they do so if if if there's something
that's coming
up G for instance they in perpetuity
have extended that pilot
so it's um you know I mean it's tough because it forces the burden
on the taxpayer the the residential
taxpayer I should say and at the same
time they give the pilots to uh bring
businesses in C it's a double-edged
store for all of us it's a double-edged
store it's one of those things where
it's really good for the city but at the
same time it's it also it it hurts us in
some all right so just to be clear um
you can you said that the ibaa pilots it
can be up to 10 years it doesn't have to
be there I've seen some that are
negotiated differently but that's they
have there's more regulation with IA
than there is in terms of
metr and and I agree it does help the
city however I mean I think we're we've
really done well in terms of you know
developing businesses so I was just
thinking that as we get better than and
have so many businesses we' be seeing
some reductions in that so that that
money can get back for absolutely and we do you know every year those
Pilots are built so that every year
there's more Revenue coming into the
city but at the same time as we get more
Revenue coming into the city and we have
more pilots coming on board we're taking
assessed value off the books or taxable
value of the books so
okay right thank you yes
go
ahead um so again uh anthy commissioner
Ferrari trash chares those um excess
waste fee um C is in development the
plan under the mayor's post budget we're
anticipating that 500,000 in Reed by end
of25 2130 f
okay so we're so this is
covering we're talking
about the I don't even know what to call
it the I know what you're saying that's
what we're talking about
okay the larger yeah okay well they
were to me jackpot supposed to be a good
thing these aren't good things so that's
what we're talking about all right thank
you so the the question is last year we
um we budgeted
$100,000 and this year we're budgeting
anticipating a
$500,000 I know there were committee set
up to meet and to bring forth a
recommendation to the council up to now
we didn't there's no recommendation to
the council right I'm going to make sure
that you get recommendation to the
council you know I'm making sure that so
what we need to do we need to know where
the committee is in terms of that and
the recommendation need to come to the
council because at this point in time
the council has not been briefed to what
is actually going to happen if it's
going to be a standalone jackpot that we
call it a jackpot or it's going to be
additional garbage in terms of how do we
move forward so we need to come to the
council at some point in time that we
can move forward and achieve this
$500,000 that I set out there wouldn't
we be talking about it when we have our
presentation on trash yes okay but I
just want to make that that point out
there because at this point in time time
no recommendation was brought to the
council to move forward with adopting
the this um policy in terms of us going
to in terms of the the jackpot garbage
that what we were supposed to
address but it's showing up but I just
want to make that statement and we we I really plan to have it done in 2024 so
I'm going to really push and make sure
it's done for
2025 myself
thank you please please
proceed next item is the patrol safety
findes um Accord to the police's
analysis we're estima approximately 600k
for 2025 I'm sorry line line number uh
yes that is 26 a
2610n is that it oh yeah that's the bus
Patrol yeah
M next big ticket item sale of houses A2
60a uh with a plan spearheaded by the
director of development and supported by
various departments in the city are
expecting 4.5 million Revenue um
currently uh there are 88 properties
timing sale a total value of 2.6
million we're already at 3 million oh we
at million now and and we have pending
88 how much money 2.6 2.6 so how do we
get from pending to collection and you
know how
we're uh there's wonderful Development
Department our wonderful lawyers are
going to be closing like crazy so if
they're pending then that means they've
already moved out of development are
they now in that's correct okay so so
that's see once once the contractor sale
ass signs over the law and we started
towards close so so I guess ultimately I
guess my my question trying to figure
out is um if so it's in law right now
the
2 6 million is is everything's in the
law department and then we can just wait
till they close
and 2.6 million 8 properties for the 8
properties that are
pending are there other 80 properties
that have contracts on yes okay then
yeah the staff's working on
it no way we're going to close this by
the end of the year
uh probably not 88 but
maybe we you know we can like enum it I
that's what I was going to ask yeah yes
we'll see where we are by the end of the
year you usually go to March because
it's really contracts been signed at 24
so we usually wait till March and then
anything up to March because that's the
last day for you know you usually get 90
days after the first of the year to uh close your books you know MH so
that's that's our plan I can look into
double check that tomorrow but before I
confirm that I want to double check
there are 8 in under contract in law I
will check it just would be ideal we can
get as much money as possible absolutely
this year all right thank you and if we
can continue on the sales of the home
program line is can anyone speak to just
the that program of itself does that
$4.5 million represent like the ceiling
for this line or is there still room for
growth or is that a premature question
um I think I think there's a room for
growth because we're just about uh we
just have completed the foreclosure for
the 21 and 22 properties right for the
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2022
foreclosure was
completed um we're now waiting on a
motion for some judgement for um about
20 properties and then we have started
the wheels in motion for the next
foreclosure um Liz pendant has been
filed title is done the next step is to
file the petition so that's in motion so
how many properties so the next the
Foreclosure we're working on currently
we started with 429 properties some
people have redeemed though so theyve
paid
um probably I don't know exactly how
many are closing on but there are people
redeeming
39 39
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that's thank
you any other questions if
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not of course uh temporary St uh did
received 1.3 million in
2024 and we will receive uh 1.3 million
in
2025 D can you please talk about this
why this is going to go away in 2025 is
that correct yes we this isting 1.3
million 2026
okay uh next L item Casino license fee
um in 2023 the city received
approximately 3.7 million in Revenue uh
we anticip
3.9 million at the end of 2024 and we're
looking at 4 million in
2025 yeah this is confirmed
with those are allor highlights um
commissioner dve did talk about the
appropriate fund balance in detail and
the federal Co assistance of the 3
million so um let's see I mean do you
want all the questions now or no no we
just talk about Revenue question well no
question all revenue questions though
okay so um the police the increase in
the police fees are included in this um
yes okay that's good and um so that's
like sort of across the board many of my
questions
um the building and alteration permits
um of projecting 600 um and that is line
that's included with his
proposal
okay it was
2555 building and alteration permits so
that's
2555 so you're saying that this 600,000
includes what he's proposed before we go
through the whole public process okay
that's 210,000 increase and police is
370,000
okay and so that's the parking finds
um
okay uh I think that was all of
my that is all of my questions for
Revenue line a
15898 abandon B property fee in 2024
there was a significant increase in 48
450,000 and back down 250 what accounted
for that inre that's Theos no which line yeah vacant property fees
15589 each that went down yes it's yeah
uh actually it's going down because uh
in between 20 23 24 properties were
being uh the banks were were uh that
were holding L these abandoned
properties they're actually summoning
them after because they had for so many
years they're able to write off the
losses after so many years so they
actually were sell and that's the reason
why it's what went down so it's not as
many as
abandon buildings that you know I'm not
talking about foreclosed banding talking
about Banks or or property owners who uh you know like move to Florida
left their houses there you
know it was more of addressing the BLS
and the abandoned building that people
just leave it there and walk away and
don't do anything and we are incurring
costs to maintain these so we passed
that um couple years ago to address to
pass on the cost to the home owner and
at the same time attach a fee right
these are mostly mostly those hous these
houses we're talking about are houses
that the tax are being paid but they're
still not being maintained or
lifted I so mostly this going were for
closing that's mostly where where it was
coming from
any other question on Revenue one second
I just want to make sure CU I think they
answer them make sure talk about 116
that's about the Cannabis oh um okay we
talked about tennis we talked about all
right I think we got
everything except the unpaid parking
tickets which you said the police depart
I to give us that because that is
something that they are going after now
L Awards so we need to address that and
see where we can up the revenue that
okay any other
questions seeing no I will just go into
counil
and the Clark
Department C
8110 um C budget has increased by 10% uh
is due to the removal of outside Legal
Services uh we figured that it wasn't
needed so to hasn't been utilized in the
last couple
years um the clerk's uh office
a1410 Clerk's budget has increased by
4.24% from
2993 to
33231
um to supply P six thank you
Miss Michael can you just give us a
brief summary on your for your
departments and talk highlights on
anything that you need to address with
us is Michael yes I
hear I go for it if you
want um most of the uh Parks budget is
the same um I think one the council
members did note um there's an increase
in stien um that was du to we mov the uh
Deputy registar 5,000 which was included
in the salary line can you can you speak
up a little bit please I'm sorry we move
the deputy registers $5,000 stien from
their salary line into the stien line so
you see the increase there um it giv a
3% increase in that in salary
CCA has not negotiated their contracts
yet um so there's no increase in those
salary lines other than that the
increases are due to supply increases
that's okay I have one correction on
that the the siphon that's or called
Sion for the deputy register is actually
under the public health law section 4124
provides for the local regist to paid on
a Fe basis that's not really a SI that's
like a register
fee to be
paid so that would go under my budget
not the reg or depuy's budget that would
go
your so you want us put back in
salary that's what it is yeah in your
salary line or the deputy reg the deputy
but into Deputy register and not you is
what they're saying
so you say move the 5,000 to dep regist
from 52 to into the regist which
is s that she's talking about down here
line 81410 36 okay we don't have it's a
pay it's not a sment right so you want
to put it into you want to it out of
there yeah into the salary and the Sal
so the dep regist will go from 52462 to
57
you're saying it's not the deputy it's
me the
register so we're increasing your salary
5,000
then
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that's you
receive in the
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past to increase from 83 to 8 and the
reason for that is
because since I've started I've been
doing all the registry work even the
nights and weekends when I'm getting
calls from F directors or the
state so since this is not a salary line
why don't we create a line a410
1368 name it this the deputy register
um whatever that I put that 5,000 there
because this is not salary
okay so did you say that again this is
not salary it's 5,000 yes okay it's a
Sal butless it comes with
benefit that's why affect the benit I
thought it was a benefit too that's why
you put it as a stud because it show up
as a salary if we it's supposed to be a
salary but if we put it with salary then
we are going to have to increase the
benefits I think is what Mr one of you
is saying right no you don't increase
wouldn't the salary go from 83 235 to 88
235 and then wouldn't that affect the
percentage don't we don't we do benefits
based on a percentage of salary her
benefits W change
though because if we already put 5,000
it's already in the budget
5,000 okay it's already it's already end so so
what you're saying is that on the
benefit line which is i' have to find
that but
back talking social security stuff like
that right so she makes more money her health insurance is not going to
change nothing
changes okay what Social Security would
change it's already accounted for
because as as it's accounted for okay as
long as it's
already that's great it's part of if
it's on the compensation language is
like
okay so moving forward we would put the
5,000 up to um
1410100 city clerk okay and we would
leave 3,000 in uh 1410 136
stien correct yes okay thank you I just
want to say this I didn't hear this
before supp heard about it so because
it's been happening for over 15 years
that I've been but the de was always at
5,000 prior correct but they were also
doing more
work I I was unaware of this
change we talked
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about go ahead
pleas yeah go ahead so where where was
the 5,000 prior to this in the deputy
register salary in the deputy register
salary oh okay all right so 54,000 then
minus 5,000 now
it was
an8 no he'll get no was it de regar was
50,000 she was making 40 45
45,9 34 plus I'm sorry was 59 5934 right
she was it was at her salary would have
been 45 934 because as a depy register
she received extra 5,000 and made it go
to the depy reg from from 45 to
50,000 right and
proposed so now instead of
52462 totally she'd be getting or
whoever I mean it's
55462 Is What It ultimately will be no it's going to be the 52 minus the
five minus 5,000 ohus yeah so we're
taking it from the deputy registar and
giving it to the
clerk correct 5,000 y so
47462 got it so starts 47 42 and we're
taking off the stiping line and taking
off the S line except for 32,000 instead
of
8000 all right done
gotta
okay any other
questions okay we'll move
into assessment sure
assessment all right assessment the toal
assessment budget increased by 2
61% five page five page five bottom
five you have
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order go the smaller um Department I
will do assessment receipt development
and then I will go into
utilities and then golf codes fire and
police thank
you
okay so the assessment budget has
increased small marginal amount of
2.61% from
35,000,000
that's it yeah so I mean salaries
increased based on the steps for the um
and then whatever management amount yeah
that they had um the I had a computer
for 10 years so I need a new one so we I
didn't realize that the in has increased
so they increased my computer budget
that I had um so that was an increase in
the amount and then I recently got
elected to the Executive Board of my
Association and there may be some travel
Associated I think they cover some of it
but just I I gave an overage for um
professional development just in case
that there was some other necessary
stuff I think there's only we do two
Zoom meetings a year and then
two onsite meetings and one of them is
in Green Island so it would not require
anything but one is in Syracuse so I
don't know I have to wait and find out
but that I think those are the only real
increases nothing you know nothing we
don't really spend I I think supplies
have been okay um we've gotten to the
point now where we can not have to print
our assessment role we can put it online
as a PDF which is a huge savings with
copying and and all those fees just
right after you got your new copier too
I know
it actually works really well um but
other than that you know other than
increases in salary I
think uh what's the longevity I think
those are the you know the bigger areas
that we've
increased also want to mention that Umi
has a has an advanced Pastor yeah and I
just got an award of my
com
congratulations yeah it's it's fun I
appreciate being in this position I
really love working for the city it's
just yeah I mean these are tough times
so I understand um we don't we don't ask
for a whole lot and we try to do a whole
lot
so so so I ask everybody this you know
is being handed down to me we ask every
Department give us a brief what's
happening in your department what is new
what is old what needs to change sure
tell us um I mean I think you know as
our Equalization rate continues to go
down I think the city needs to think
about being in a place where maybe a
reval is something that we look at um
it's not going to solve all our problems
but financially it puts us in a better
position um it doesn't inre the levy is
what it is and with the Caps that we
have with the levy you know you can't go
much more but it it puts more of the
burden on the places that we're seeing
where there's change in um ship where
there's change in there there's a lot of
flips going on in the city I mean we've
got we've got places in the city that
we've got sales of
319
320,000 that we wouldn't have
necessarily seen before because people
are actually putting some money into
those areas so I think that's really
fantastic but it it's unevenly
distributed in terms of where you look
at the assessed value so it's something
that we should look at I've got some
quotes you know not saying it's
something the the market is still a
little unstable so it's we don't know
what's going to continue to happen and as the state continues with our
Equalization rate they' looked three
years back so we're still faced with
some of the postco um the the market
stuff that's going on um but it it's one
of those things that I think we need to
think about um you know and is our
Equalization rate you know it's a I had
declared on our tenative Ro 64 but then
the state came back to me and said 68.7
or 68.4 five so it's not a big deal but
when you're looking at properties where
you're
revaluing that 4 and a half% is is a
pretty big deal that's Revenue that we
could be taking in so it it's just
something to it's something to think
about um it's an expense especially with
a municipality our size how much about
could be at the very least one and a
half million um but as you increase with
other tools that could allow us to
continue to stay at 100% in the future
you could go anywhere from one and a
half to 2 million and those are expenses
that probably would be yearly so yeah
they're things like um imagery so you've
got a fly over and you've got a fly over
you know you've got a plane flying over
with a really fancy camera and they're
looking down at an inch level so you can
see everything they also have tracking
software so year to year when they do a
flyover they can tell you what has
changed in your municipality so it's not
even a benefit for us it's a benefit for
the codes office it's a benefit for the
police for fire for access points for
you know I I'm not suggesting that we go
full on but there's some thought that might be it might put us into a
better situation financially going
forward if we're at
100% um I think there's more work and
research that needs to be done um but at
the same time I have talked to some
folks there's some agencies out there
that do or some places that do some
really good work for a municipality our
size I think it would be best to
Outsource that um rather than trying to
do it in house because the resources
that a company has
um more than we have internally um in
terms of Staffing and just resources in
general looking at different uh
platforms that give you more access to
properties so go ahead please so do you
think that this might be something that
we should anticipate including in the
2026 budget um yeah I would say look
into the future I wouldn't say
necessarily I mean I think financially
you know we're in a place where we have
to kind of weigh some things and again
it's one of those like does the cost of
this
outweigh the financial position it might
put us in and I think it we could put
some rfps out there we could talk to
some people that are way more
knowledgeable than me
about um and I've had a couple of people
approach me and say that they'd be
willing to talk to city council they'd
be willing to talk to the mayor so
um I I'd love to look into it more
before I say anything but I I certainly
think with Bond ratings and every you
know financially for the city it it
might be worth looking into so you're
saying million initially and then you
said every year after that it's not a
matter of every year after that that we
have to do so the way that it's built
the one proposal that I got because I
looked into I just asked um it's a
matter of spending over four years so
it's not you don't have to pay in one
year
and there's payment plans and they work
it they they make sure that it fits the
need of the
municipality so it's a long process it's
not just a all of a sudden you're going
to have a
change um so you spread that over a
couple of years but at the same time
what it allows us to do is when we work
with an outside agency we have the
ability to then use them in future years
to continue keeping the uh rate at 100
as opposed to since I've been from we
we've gone from
123% to now 68.4 5% that's a huge swing
and now some of that was the market but
some of it was
just um before I came it was not having
stability in the office and checking the
sales like we should so it's just a
matter of being able to have the
resources going into the future to
monitor all of that stuff and be able to
keep us do some sales analysis to do
some assessment analysis to see where
the neighborhoods are carrying more
value thank you so I just remind myself
of something and I'm sure you're aware
of it um from the May with regards
to visits from your department to
specific houses and I'm asking an visit
asking for an inspection can you address
that because I know it's a sore point
that people have be complaining about it
not happy about it uh can you elaborate
to the council why is that being done
and how can we strengthen that or make
it more pleasant to people out there and
that create an atmosphere sure well okay
so I guess what I have said in the past
is that we don't generate Revenue unless
we're able to follow up on permits and
work that's being done in the city so
any work that's being done without
permits any work that's being done where
we're being denied access to a property
any work that's being being done where
we have a problem being able to even see
the property we don't generate any
revenue from that and a lot of times
those properties are flipped so you have
someone who's putting in a lot of work
maybe they're not getting permits and
then they're selling the property for
three or four times what we have it
assessed at so if you think of a
property being assessed at maybe 50,000
and it's selling for 300,000 we're
missing out on
$250,000 of potential tax revenue not to
say that value or that cost or equates
to
Value but if we're not able to capture
that we're not able to move the city
forward so it's it's I mean it's
difficult for us it's not that we're
looking to go onto properties illegally
or whatever everyone has the opportunity
to say that they won't allow us in their
house but when I find their property on
MLS and I see that they've complet we
flipped it of course I'm going to look
at it there's an obligation for me to
the city to say you've done something to
your property whether you had a permit
or not we need to engage in that because
there's a huge change in the property
and and I mean I guess and I'm not
saying this to you fight me on that like
I don't I'm okay with that like question
me on that but that's why we have agance
process in place so that you don't agree
but if you sell your property for
300,000 and it's currently assessed for
100,000 and you're not interested in
seeing a change in that or you're GNA be
concerned about a change in that I have
a problem with that because what you're
doing is not going
by the
right you know I guess I don't
have that's
so I guess I I know this has come up
before John and I don't we're not trying
to create a problem but we're trying to
do our job the best for the city and
we're trying to you know we're looking
we're facing this huge deficit in our
budget and the
weight I hear people talking about
revenue and this and that and pardon my
language I'm like hold my beer I mean
this is what we do this is how we
increase the tax base in the city is by
going out and looking at properties that
have been renovated we're not and I know
you're going to continue to think that
we are targeting no no that's I don't
sorry I don't but I that's that's what
the people are saying out there but
that's the constant thing that has come
up and that's
not so the follow question to that is
can we put something a formal process in
place that rather than going out to the
specific house on an evening can we just
do a formal process send a letter to
them and if they if they're not then we
knocked on the door but we've we've done
that we've done everything we possibly
the formal process correct every this
has been the process that has been in
place since I've been here and we've
done this every single year especially
when it's come up I mean there are a
couple of times you've had us come in
and present in Council I I I'm not
trying to be difficult but either you
want us to do our job or you don't and
if we don't do what we're supposed to do
then we don't increase the revenue for
the city and I I guess that's
where that's the thing that I'm
stumbling with is do do you want us to
like our taxable value has to go up at
some point if we don't do that then
we continue especially when we have
Pilots we continue to force the burden
on the residential taxpayers and if the
residential taxpayers aren't paying
what you know I mean I can go on I
apologize I'm not I'm not trying and I
sorry if I sound defens it's just well
goad I do want to point out that I think
that um was it earlier this year that
you did the presentation to us I think
with codes correct if I remember and and
it was last year I thought it was
earlier this year there maybe there was
another maybe because I think Naim was
probably but I think it was really clear
at least to me through that presentation
that um because there were you know
accusations about targeting um certain
populations but I think that what I
heard in that presentation was that
you're you don't even necessarily know
the who owns the property so when you're
going out to do these um es if it's um
you know uh not occupied but I mean it
became very clear through the
presentation that those that you're not
targeting uh specific populations
because owners come up on the that
there's a lot of people that are owner
occupied but also contractors that do
the work we don't we don't have any idea
we look at a property that has a permit
and depending on the scope of work
that's what we follow up on and it it
doesn't it really has nothing to do with
who it is that owns it and I mean I
don't know how more to say that other
than to show the exact report we pull
from munice I mean you guys you you guys
built the report for us yes and we pull
a report to look at all the permits so
we look at demos we look at there's
certain things we don't look like we
don't care about Paving you know I mean
if you want to pave your driveway you
want to pave whatever that doesn't you
know there's certain permits that don't
you put a roof on your house great
everybody has to have a roof on their
house it doesn't add any more value
anyone
else's anyone but I I I think that the
re clearly is something that we're going
to have to take a look at but we won't
be doing this budget no no I'm sorry
yeah I only brought it up because I
think as as our Equalization rate goes
down we need to possibly think about
what that means sure so I no okay Mr M I
understand like and I appreciate you
asking that question I just I hope that
you understand hope that the people are
listening to your explanation we should
detail explanation and I ask anyone who
has a question with that please just
come into our office and ask it's not
you know I mean that's that's not what
we try to do if someone feels targeted
we want to make sure that we're not
doing that
um anyways go ahead please and and I
kind of get the opposite question I get
calls all the time and that I report
over to code or someone about work
that's being done with no permits and
um you know for you know re you know
revalue of the home so and you know it's
Our obligation to report what people
report to us so yeah but I thank you for
doing your job absolutely I mean it's tough I don't it's
not I understand nobody wants to pay
more than you know wants to pay morees I
get that but no I'm just a messenger no
okay I was in this room here couple
months ago full room with the mayor and
with several homeowners and contractors
talking about how many concern they have
I know the mayor talked to you about it
he did mention that me so that's I'm
going to highlight it so the public hear
from you what is actually happening
right and to you know well I would
encourage anyone who has a question or
concern to come into our office that's
all I mean that's all we can do is just
be more transparent how we VI our
process any other question
for the assessment
office seeing none thank you so much
have a good evening we'll go into
receipt and that is on page four bottom
receipts a
1325 receipts budget has only increased
by
2.03% I'll let Lindsay talk about our
budget um well my budget really doesn't
change ever
much very boring
um but
um supplies and um equipment continues
to be something that's increasing um in
price as everyone else has in the last
few years um our validators that we use
to give customer receipts um have gone
from $400 to just about $900 a piece and
um we use them constantly well you know
it's a constant thing so we do have to
have a little bit of padding there and
also as Molly stated my computer is also
not compatible with um Microsoft 11 so
it's something that you would have to
have but otherwise there really isn't
much of a change in anything um to
our so can you just give us just what's
new what what's on the pipeline through
Department um right now what's new is
um we are well working in Junction with
the law Department of course we have a
forclosure um list that is um started so
we've been trying to um we continue to
try to educate people um the order in
which they should pay their taxes when
they have
leans um and um really trying because
right now we're faced with a little
longer period than we've had in the past
so we're going to go into next year
before the Redemption date so the 202
24s are going to turn into tax leans so
by law they'll have to be paid first
before the 23s and the 22s and the 21s
so it's something where um it it could
turn into where people might normally
only have two years to pay they might
end up having three or four so we've
been avidly trying to reach out to
anyone that's stopping in to make
partial payments and we do have a lot
of our tax base is expanding how is that
think your work the resource that you
have um well I think it's the nice thing
about the past few years is that um more
people have been using our website for
payments um we still do get a lot of
foot traffic um we do a lot of cash
payments um every quarter we have people
that stand in line for a long time to
paying cash um and you know it is what
it is so it's um we still get that um
but we do have people that use the
website you know quite often and um
people still use the Dropbox because we
have a lot of elderly people that don't
want to come upstairs they want they
don't want to worry about their mail
getting lost and they want to get a
receipt in the mail so they put it in
there and um so we really made it
there's really every Avenue that you
could try to make a payment you can make
one so yeah nice ni that's great doing
much with the little you have yes go
ahead please um so online there's a
certain percentage you pay over your so
if you use an e check so if you just use
your checking account number and your
routing number it's 55 cents so that's
just like postage right when you use a
card so we are not allowed to absorb
those fees because we're municipality so
the company that that runs that
paymentus they receive the fee for those
which is 2.64% of the amount so that can
be rather steep yes um and then once we
get into people having two years of
leans they do have to pay with
guaranteed funds so they have to pay
with either a cashier's check bank check
or cash um because they can't use a
personal check in that situation just
because of the status of where they are
in their in their
process we can't use a credit card for
that no because credit cards are
disputable um so you can and we
unfortunately have had this happen um
you can come in and pay it take you off
the you know foreclosure list and then
you know a month later you dispute the
transaction so we've had to go where
that is something that you can use it
you know when you have one year of leans
you can if you have 23s right now you
could use a credit card if you wanted to
but once you get two years and you're on
that you know when you're on the list
technically then you
cannot question I know that this year
there's an issue with people in the
school taxes and the Pro everything not
coming over um and so can you tell me
what impact that had on your office and
if there's any remedy if that happens
against the the the um company that we contract with well the company
is munice it's Tyler Technologies um we
do have a contract with them that we um
that's our whole Software System for um
we also use micity but that's separate
um munus is the real Financial system um
every year we in may we received the
delinquency file from the school um and
we import it and generally speaking
around the 20 1st of May people can
start making payments on their
delinquent School this year the file
would not import um and I will say and
Tony and and Derek are aware um since we
have converted to our new version of
munus we have been having a very low
response time to our problems
um and it's something that we probably
need to address the next time we have a
contract negotiation with them because
um I had spoken with John guio in the
past when he was here and there doesn't
seem to be an accountability Factor as
far as how long they have to respond to
some of our critical problems um so when
that happens you put in an online case
and then you must try to contact the
person repeatedly to get some some
answer
how it affected us was we weren't able
to import the file until July 2nd um it
didn't it impacted the taxpayers
obviously because they had the
inconvenience of not being able to pay
it however as you all know um there was
legislation passed to delay the penalty
so they weren't charged anything more
for not being able to pay it it was just
a matter of not being able to pay it
which I understand and yes it was it's a
lot lot of phone calls a lot of foot
traffic um to both us and the school for
why it wasn't there but it was something
unfortunately that um they couldn't
resolve July yeah it should have been
resolved by one well when we import the
file okay which I get May 21st it didn't
work okay so then they told me they had
it fixed the first week of June so I
attempted it again and it failed again
so then it did take them almost a month
to fix it the way that this system works
is they have to send something to
development and it actually runs into
where they have to do a complete
software fix that then it has to run
into our
system and as a result of the issues
that I've had since we've converted um I
am going to be doing I normally do my
mock tax bill run in November November
or early December but I'm actually doing
it in October okay um because I want to
make sure that we are able to get any
errors corrected if we have a long time
to wait when was the last time we
negotiated that contract with believe it
three more years
oh Tyler is just a part of what happened
with the
whole U the virus
thing is you know they lost all their
people left and they're having lot of
trouble finding new system people up and
then you get new people then they have
to warn the systems
so
all really set them back a b yeah and I
there are a couple contacts I have there
that have been there for I've been here
for 19 years and some of them have been
there for that long but and they will
get back to me but unfortunately it's
like the hierarchy of how many people
are in front of me that have already
reached out to them and it's it's
definitely been an impact this
year thank you so if I can add um I
would like to see if we could review
what that exit clause would look like
cuz if your office is having to
subsidize and take on that additional
burden and there seems to be no
improvements I would say unless there's
a lack of other vendors out there I
think there has to be an accountability
Factor if you disagree yeah I mean Unice
should have to respond within X number
of of days because we do pay them on a
regular basis quite a bit of money so um
I don't I don't think it's not and they
are one of the biggest providers to
municipalities around um and it's not
that I'm dissatisfied with M as a whole
I would say no but when you have a major
problem like not being able to emplo
file you can't wait you know almost two
months for that to be rectified it finds
we find it hard to understand too is
because we've done it for Less 19 years
and all of a sudden it's like it's like
what's different about it I've done this
my sleep yeah and then it just kep
failing so just you know you know don't
have the power to fix
it and if we have to if this is an issue
and we're paying them at the same rate
regardless of how they deliver service I
don't know if there's an opportunity to
renegotiate that and said if you don't
get it done by this then you know we
reduce how much we pay you by that I
don't know right and I do think it needs
like CU When we enter a case we can say
this is a medium importance case or this
is a critical case and I think there
needs to be something where a critical
case needs to be addressed within you
know a day or two like it used to be you
know whereas a medium okay I don't need
this right now and that could be but it
seems something needs to be worked out
there because it affects thousands of
people every time I mean I had 2800
delinquent School tax bills that
couldn't come in that's what it is
so thank you any questions a lot of
work get you get it done thank you we
appreciate what do thank you very much
even we'll move
into
development and that is page
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4.6% Total Community Development
increase by
16.15% uh there's no increase in the
board appeals no increase in the
Planning Commission and there's no
increase in historical
commission I just want to add biggest
reason we increase is that the zoning
officer was add to that uh to part of
the government Administration that
caused the I see okay so it was in a
different department before corre so
we'll see that decrease in Zod then in
COD corre thank
you you can just go
through I your like make and then ask
you to give us a brief what's new what's
the pipeline in your department um as
they said no real U major changes I
think the one change that probably would
highlight will be our part-time seasonal
salaries as you can see there's an
increase there of the
54,000 um we have um a part-time home
specialist helping manage the federal
home funds the mayor has asked um for a
plan um for that this week so I will be
working on that um who wants to address
that in the budget
line can I can I just clation on address
that and watch
meaning the person that is part-time
having a end date or there needs to be a
plan in place because they were a
temporary part-time
person so he he's asked for an update on
where we are with with that
and what is their what is their title
again they they it's just a clerk their
title was a clerk but they help um
manage the home funding of for the
Community Development Department in fact
that person we we we were in because
there was such a lapse at at home after
uh the person had the position before
this person came in and helped us tie in
uh address the audits Audits and stuff
like that with a consortion with Troy
and County because actually she was an
expert at this know who done this for
her career so she really helped us out
is this line 86
yes 8687
so so what you're saying is that that
will go away yes this will probably be
the last
year thank you any other questions go
ahead please so is that the only part
there are no other part two but the
other yes the other part-time person is
drawing from our community development
assistant
line okay
see so that so this is a
full two two part-time people working
between 10 and 15 hours a week so I just
so the
47,000 five is we is compensation for
one individual no as part time she she's
not that's a vacant position it's vacant
but that's where she's getting paid from
right now she's not included in that
part-time seasonal salary that is for
the one person working that 20 hours so
actually it's going to be a little bit
less than the 47 if they're only part
time correct correct but the goal um
Madam president is to fill that position
the goal for the Department is to gain
capacity because this is full-time work
it's not part-time work so the part-time
people have been extremely helpful and
they got us through the fire um but we
need to have full time we the the job is
full-time okay the goal is to increase
our capacity in the department all right
thank you fees for service last year we
uh budgeted U 160 this here
your B 100,000 So based on what we spent
um down our fees for services are really
our con our consultants and our arborous
so 160 was a little bit above what we
needed based on what we said I'm sorry
what line is thate Mr that's u
a page 50 right the b86 8686 oh yeah I
have that highlighted also okay
any go ahead please so
um under your department the um lead
inspector is there correct and I read
the article in the paper that we got
this Grant and so how that W impact her
level of work uh and does does she have
everything she needs to do that is you
know could it will impact her it would
impact her level work she's already
doing the work um
we I went this is something with the L
inspector that was try I was trying to
work last year when I came to city
council that was from our predecessor to
get a pay increase for her so we went I
went to csca to say they said they would
try to work a title with supervisor not
moving her to management but with some
supervisory skills because she's going
to have to train other inspectors we
have a a grant program coming down from
the county as well for Leed for the um
the rental apartments and for landlords
so her role as a lead inspector will
increase you have to be EPA um EPA risk
assessor certified and we only have two
in the city and that's including her and
one in codes right now and I believe
Brian said we have three that are
pending if I'm right for testing to pass
a test to help with that so her role her
job will
increase I don't see an increase in tell
because csca is
under so I I did submit that um as a
request but by default you don't see
that in this bu but I did ask that for
her all right thank
you and we're working with the the CCA
rep to kind of address the job title cuz
she's maxed out where she's at so I have
gone to Steve um for that information so
the ball is in
csca hands
thank you so this could this is
definitely going to increase once we do
the finish the
contract we don't negotiate cont yeah
then have pass it just say
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yes any other
question um I have a question regarding
the zoning office now under your um
Department um over the last several
months we have failed a lot of complaint
in terms of turnover time from the
zoning office getting people's permit
back out on time I'm sure you a of that
we talk about it to talk to you about it
what are in place what do you have in
place sorry to address these um these
question so I would like to correct yall
and say over the last several months it
will be predated because over the last
several months we've made the changes
and implemented a process and if I may I
will look up what the process is cuz I
don't know the dates off offline but we
give her six to9 business days to
process those
appliations it is 6 to9 business days
the complaints come from internally not
being able our departments meaning code
and development not really communicating
properly but working closely with Brian
and the code staff we have been trying
to foster a more collaborative work
environment to address that issue so now
Nora
um just let me pull that up I'm sorry
Mak me nervous now
should news that in development now that
nor is up in development she's been
working with the planning department
also which she's getting support from
whereas previously she was not getting
as much support I was just say so not
only from the development department but
uh from Alexander but also from the
planners and stuff like that so they're
all working together turn out to be a
really good uh so that change has been
made and change has been made the
process will improved the process has
improved and we're still working with
our co- officers it's all about how we
deliver the message to the public right
if the public is coming in versus saying
it's held up in development we should
probably say it's still in process right
she has six to n businesses if we're
not we have to protect oursel inside
public face and we're public servants
but we still have those aren't we
colleagues we have to work together so
we Brian and I have worked together to
kind of streamline a process like I said
Foster more communication and saying to
our team listen if you get something and
it's held up let's let's go by what we
have in place it's it's still in that 6
to9 business days and then outside of
that then you let us know and we'll
address it but I think the public wants
rapid gratification John right you put
an application in
3 days later it's been a holiday we
didn't had two days off they looking for
it to happen right there so I will um I
will try to circulate what this memo is
um to city council yeah if that's okay
no the reason why I B that because I
mean I'm glad that changes were U put in
place on the 6 to 9 day that's you know
that's reasonable for turn around to get
the documents review and back up because
we have heard and seen people waited you
know several weeks performing 20 room
and she's one zoning officer too so this
is why it was important to give her a
time frame so she had there's 6 to 10
business days after a request has been
received invoice in process into
municity that's for zoning compliance
request for permits is 6 to 10 business
days after Code Enforcement Officers
assign the task to the zoning officer IM
municity she we have office hours now
just for walk-ins where you don't need
an appointment so 9 to 10 and 3: to 4:
every day the public can stop them
without an appointment that doesn't stop
the public from making an appointment
with her so that because the zoning
officer is also in the field so a lot of
times people come in looking for her but
she's out she's out in the
field um for routed plans for large
developments there's six to 10 business
days after the routed plans have been
given to the zoning officer and for
complaints because we do get a lot of
complaints we have that um they should
be submitted over the C click fix or
formal complaint um these forms are
found in the buildings department and
should be submitted to the Buildings
Department for processing we put
something in place for same day
approvals no permits will be approved
the same day regardless of the
circumstances every member of the
Public's application will be reviewed on
a fair and consistent basis
so and the last but not least is
Christine handles the change in Tennesse
waivers and there's a three to five
business days for that this involved
going out to check the properties to
make sure they are in compliance with
the prior site plan approval so we sent
the memo out to um department heads um
in the mayor's office on June
24th that's nice and you're going to
share that with oun thank you appreciate
that and I appreciate the changes in
place open for
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questions um one thing that we asked for
um was the vacancy list currently so
right now um uh the Community
Development assistant is is it's not
filled it is not it is not filled but we
are we have been actively looking so we
have the Community Development assistant
and the program monitor so one of the
part-time people is right now working as
the Community Development assistant
helping with management of the federal
funding in arpa um so she's kind of
filling that role temporarily and the
program mon
we've been getting applications we um
there were a couple of candidates that
we like but they didn't get through the
Civil um service piece and we have one
candidate that maryan was working on
prior to the transition so we're hoping
to have an answer on that um as the new
HR administrator gets activated but
these are positions you're definitely
looking to fill definitely looking to
fill thank you the Community Development
assistant you said is filed that's what
we just talked about right is she's part
time
okay any other questions comment just
want to mention that the capital
projects development got uh is
requesting three vehicles one for
planning one for zoning and one
for 40,000 CG is that in in the C yes
that's what that 4,000 yeah so you can
get three vehicles for $40,000 no like
are right it's right here 114 out of
that 40,000 is coming from C because one
can go if one is for Community
Development that is an allowable expense
for CBG funding so these these say these
are all electric vehicles and we just
talked about the um lead inspector are
any of these a vehicle that's like a
truck yes so it is proposed a a Transit
is what we were looking at um for it I
don't it's electric car I think we have
some a trans it's like a van oh okay um
because right now she has a smaller car
where she has to put a ladder and all of
these things it the smaller car doesn't
work for the job so you are looking at a
vehicle that better accommodated yes
we're also looking at Mavericks which is
a like a small truck oh it's a truck
yeah for electric small
truck nice but all electric
vehicles right any other question thank
you see young thank you so much
appreciate all you're doing why you
didn't ask me what I had
going told tell me what's new
what's didn't hear me so tell me what's
new going
on so I want to I want to share with the
city council that we um we launched our
new software neighborly um that is to
help Community Development manage all
federal funding um it is going to help
us be more efficient um with invoicing
with processing with reporting with the
quarterly reports and this will free up
some of the time where we actually can
because the system will be working for
us um that we can find other funding
sources to manage I'm so I'm I'm really
excited about that I know you talk we
talked a little bit about the city
property so I don't know if this fill
would go but I was going to say we're on
target to meet our 2023 budget for City
owned properties but if we're carrying
over to
2.6 million to 2025 I guess I can't brag
about that cuz they're all pending no
you can still brag about that because
you you you you you achieve it process
all the paper all the necessary
documentation to get it where it
is lot of work inails they're pending
until March 31st you got yes I want to
also highlight I know I've reported to
City Council on this um you know
throughout the time that we are like 99%
in compliance with arpa and that's
invoicing quarterly
reports um with all of our subrecipients
we have some arpa funding that has been
at a standstill but Anthony advis to get
a plan so we have put out a letter to
those subrecipients for and working the
team is worked with them to put a
spending plan together to make sure that
they are accessing their funds and
spending them down um in the appropriate
timeline that are for allow
how much is that I just want to remind
everybody talking about ARA um so of
that we talked about that are stand
still they have till December uh 31st to have contracts or or actually have
some contracts with their vendors to
actually get to work started or uh
projected and if they don't and they go
past that time we cannot re appropriate
that money we lose it so we have to
start thinking about prior to December
do we lose it or can we can we take it
back no we can't no we lose it we we we lose the money so we talk about we
got be very careful with the December
31st we don't have December
31st we have to make sure that we
revisit this prior to seator for and
reallocate these money back to the city
right and we have one that is really in
Jeopardy so our team is being very
intentional to work with that how much
is out there as far as those not being
approp
I would say just just one just one money
how much 1.2 I believe is what and could
be that one for a million too one yeah
the 1 million one one too is Pretty
Tough we have this oh yeah I
seeon so this this gives us all the
information that you just talked about
yes yes but the department is
actively we want to support um those
Community or organization so we are
we're doing our part to kind of just
encourage them this reminding them that
time is of the
essence but December is right around the
corner so when you sorry when you when
you're going out reminding them are you
getting a positive feedback from them
are they working with you on your
department something but I they've been
given positive feedback from the start I
think they're just having difficulties
and and that that brings me to the next
statement is capacity
right it's a large amount and one of the
organizations just doesn't have the
resources compared to some of the other
organizations to actually execute the
project So the plan is there but it's getting other resources to work
with
our so on the same lines of arpa those
recouped arpa funds were those projects
that were in consideration were they
notified of this new position the city's
taking I I was not part of that
conversation so I'm so so sorry I did
not I was not able to notify because I
didn't find out until I seen the
proposed budget thank you go ahead I can
speak to that because I got an email
from one of the projects and the answer
to that question is no they were not
informed until they sent an email
actually to ask where it was and they
included myself and the mayor and Miss
Carver um and I responded and said you
know this is what the situation is I
know was in the budget they were not
aware that they're that they were being
considered to have those um those phones
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sended I thought car they
left what do you mean left I thought
they they gave up their no the old group
did but then we had the co-op who came
and to the grp 50123 it was
the car
was so when okay step back was not
501c3 to my knowled they were not a
501c3 and um did you think they were to
I did think that but I mean you know I I
don't believe they were however the new
group did have Community Fathers as part
of it which is also a 501c3 if if that
seems to be the sticking point so they
were definitely a 501c3 we we didn't
have a contract with them we had it with
the other group right and the other
group returned the building and then but
this group was in discussions we as a
council sat here and heard them and so
they were W the understanding that we
were working with them so you we can
talk about the the contract no idea but
we never and we never said otherwise so
they came here discussing this with us
so they understood that we were working
with them so you know nobody ever said
you got to sign this contract um so I I
can't I don't think we could just go
down that road um so I don't know what
happened how it happened I just know
that I read it in the newspaper um that
was I read newspaper then I went looked
in the budget to to confirm that what I
was reading think was correct and and
that was but I was under the assumption
that that origal group gave it up and
that it was pended we wanted to use it
before we lose
it questions and so I'm just going back
to say okay Mar and Craig wasn't a 5013
or still not a 5013 we did transfer a
building to
them and the other group that took over
was on a 5 want prce but we we didn't
transfer the build into that I we no we
didn't no that's why I so the question
is why did we did it for one and we
didn't do it for the ud I I was on the
presumption that the first group was a
501c3 well let's go out and verify that
I do not believe but I will
definitely however but we can't but but
let's not also say I just want to make
clear that we never said to the group
are you a 501c3 as we had those
discussions with them and they were
doing the project and if I if my m
resarch new correct when they presented
they weren't going to go to 501c3 route
um and they were saying that they were
going to work to get um their formal
they wer going to do the 501c there's no
way there going to be a 501c3 by
December this is the new group you mean
when we had meeting when we had the
meeting here yes the Hamilton Hill
Cooper so Mr carrari how can we have a
formal email letter out to this group
the last group to inform them I don't
know who the group is is it I know who
is I know who the group is all right
we'll get
together I think the mayor's part of
this discussion and um because he was on
my email so just um just just so we not
I know that he's not here tonight
leaving him out of what this discussion
is to he is definitely a part of that
email that was coming from the
cooperative and I did speak to the mayor
briefly this week and he said he was
going to reach out and have a
conversation so he is aware I did try to
follow up with him on the email that
yeah I also I was not aware of that but
I also heard that there was other other
institutions that that
were other place other companies that
were interested interested in but I
think the go I think the goal from where
I said I thought think the goal was to
have a collaborative effort between the
community and another organization that
has capacity to support support the
Carver um and and so Circle back to your
question no they were not formally
informed that was that's what I'm asking
for a formal notification to let them
know what is going on yeah I think that
should come from the main not me I'm
making a statement I
as
yeah I just thought it was in limbo and
you know it's the money that we can use
it we wanted to get it used before
December go ahead please um thank you
Missy on this is there any any um have
you gotten any uh whoever's gotten their
money spent it um the way they needed to
appropriate appropriate the funds have
you gotten any reports from anyone is we
collect reports quarterly okay so we um
the only person that has there's only a
couple of people that have fully
expended and we're working to get close
out reports for them but everybody's in
compliance they spent it based on what
they said they were going to spend it
with their proposal can not be passed
along to the council at any so you want
the final report or you want the
quarterly report quarterly yeah see come
on that is so
much she just no problem thank you thank
you my friend thank you all any other
questions
I'm I want my time you you tell you
wanted to talk about the highlights
would been out of here no I just have I
just wanted to highlight two more and
that was that we addressed um all
outstanding HUD audit findings from 2020
2021 2022 so we had three years of
findings when I started a year ago that
were still pending and all of those have
been addressed and cleared up um with
the federal government um and for the
first time when I look back at our and
being on the other side of being a
subrecipient of the city we've always
received our community development
grants 6 seven months after the fiscal
year has started and for the first time
at least minimum um 7 years we have our
contracts ready to go out into the
public into the sub reian within the
first 30 days of our HUD FIS schal year
starting so I'm really proud of the team
and the work that um the department has
done with that great
nice detail thank you yeah thank you um
M Carver for for for the work that
you've done the year and bringing us up
today now did you talk about um the
other and your team as well I know
that's not one person it's the team but
you are the team leader the other one we
I read in the paper of the Department of
Labor did you mention that one um you
didn't do you want I don't oh where um
there was there was something that you I
think you mentioned it here and then it
was there was an artic in the newspaper
about it but I didn't see that the
development team was mentioned at all
are you all the pro housing all the pro
housing community designation I didn't
highlight that but we did we did get
that so as a city we have access to
discretionary funding that other
municipalities may not have eventually
New York state will make that mandatory
I don't know if that happened for all
municipalities but we were we were in
the beginning where it wasn't mandatory
so we um completed all of the zoning and
planning and Community Development um
research and gave the data to get the
designation for the city so we are
designated as a pro housing community
highl okay and that happen watch yes yes
like a lot we I mean I think I when you
think of Department of development let
me just be clear it's it's more than
just development it's Community
Development it's planning it's you're
the LED program director you do sah it's
the historic commission it's the bza
it's the Planning Commission it's the
city owned properties there's a lot um
that falls under that umbrella and it's
important that I just say that on the
record it's not just development it is a
large umbrella and we are working and
making the most appropriate changes um
in finding out what's most advantageous
for the city in a whole with processes
procedures policies we have addressed
that this last year so it's it's just
important for you to know that we're
working upstairs I wish we would have an
opportunity to eat Truffles and you know
Dum Dums but um we're we're we're busy
working Madam president there were two
things that said um I did request um for
the in the budget and I did have a
conversation um with the mayor about it
and he said that I should bring it
before Council so ma this up to the
finance direct please sorry it's all
yours so the um and for the record I had
the conversation with my boss and he
said it is at the um city council
discretion
okay the uh planner one sent a formal
request for a pay increase of 10% repage
that would be um 86 886 100 principal
plan I'm sorry
86 you yes the principal planner put a
formal request in for 10% pay
increase okay and myself the director of
development put a request in for a 15%
pay increase so principal planner how
much 10% 10% requested okay
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and development inre
15% are there anyone
else no understanding the the rest of
the team they they had amounts but I
think those are the two biggest that I
will um bring before you
today in addition to the probably 3%
that's there already not in addition so
be 12% or 7% in other words yes okay yes
50us three that was a good clarification
Mr can you correct me if I'm wrong how
would it be the council's perview to
dictate the mayor's proposed budget well it's not dictating it's making
changes which is beond but great saying
is he can to do as the mayor what he
eles to do in that's that's a good
question and we can related to this over
years as being in his Council here and
his Finance um chair that um many times
a May says you know what he is his staff
he put in a salary that he thinks that
is
reasonable and sometimes it doesn't go
well when the council tries to make
changes to Staffing and salary and
that's a good point we brought up there
so we will have to consider
these openly with within the council
with an open L this year and I I did
have a conversation with my boss of
course I respect my report with him so I
would never bring something before you
that I have not discussed with him and
he heard me and I asked him what um what
would he suggest that I do and he said
bring it before counsel so that is just
what I'm doing um on this evening you
know whether it is honored or not I'm
doing what I feel is best advocating for
myself and advocating for my team as
I've just highlighted the work that has
been done um thus far and not what has
been done this far but even taking into
consideration on where we're going cuz
we're we're still walking we haven't
even begun um to run and put dust behind
our feet so get
prepared you should applicate for your
team and for yourself every
time well I'm not really understanding
your question I mean we have had this
happen in the past as well where um
staff people have been um you know the
salary inrees that they requested the
mayor were
not put into the Bears budget and so we
have had had the opportunity to then
discuss those um increases in salary
here as Council relatively new though it
hasn't like in maybe prior to you but
Rel before that that didn't really
happen that's kind of a new um yes
phenomenon that that that that people
would I can't tell you exactly where it
began but I think I remember who it
began with which staff person but
generally speaking um that didn't happen
but there's IND individual who felt very
strongly about the request that they
made therefore they came to advocate for
themselves so so you're aware I'm saying
this according to M Alexander's account
that the mayor felt so entailed to put
the increase in he could have just put
the increase in and then spoke to it to
us so that to me is the proper way to go
about it I can understand this way but I
just wanted to have a clarification of
we review his proposed
budget we do but again because we have
our department heads come in during
these nights um let's move it away from
personnel and salary but I mean clearly
we have instances where our department
heads are going to ask us uh to think
about things that the mayor has already
rejected I mean it's just been part of
the pro at least I mean again I'm only
in my second term on city council um but
it certainly has been this way since
I've been on city
council department heads um it was
presented that the mayor was in favor of
this and said the correct way to go
about it is to discuss this with the
council oh
you put in a request for the 15 and 10%
he gave you what's
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here I went back to the mayor and said
can you please reconsider my request and
he said he thinks this is a sound budget
and I said well what do you think that I
should do he said bring it before city
council so he wasn't saying he supports
it he just said come talk to have a
me you have something you good you
finish yeah yeah that's I understand
yeah yeah he didn't say he supported he
said bring it before city council so I'm
just following Direction yeah we got to laugh sometimes this is
always when we talk about finances and
when you're advocating for yourself they
tough conversations to have before the
body the council so thank you I respect
thank you no you have all right to
advocate for yourself and your
department that is your duty yes because
that's how you been able to streng your
department and that's how you build your
department
any other question for Miss no thank you so much thank you so much
thank you Anthony thank you D thank you
C thank
you we will go into utility and Street
Li am I missing anything under your
department I'm
sorry account codes are 862 83310 8331
85182 can you just tell me the page
numbers I'm sorry just so we can to it
page 24 thank page 12 I think page
12 go back to start let's start on page
12 and then work down thank you the uh
utilities Administration decreased by
12.46% um this huge increases du2
retirements in 2024 okay sign
maintenance increased by
12.28% total traffic increased by
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7.60% uh the total Street lighting
increased by
4.86% uh that's from 1, 690,000 to 2,
380,000 um Guan will explain the portion
is portion on Friday it's a smart City
portion so U Brian will adjust his
portion okay thank
you so let's go through one the utility
admin and then we'll go to the next one
because it's multiple page done so we'll
head it over to Brian and just walk us
through tell us um anything that you
need to address we you need um you need
to address before us in regards to
utility
Administration so that's myself uh
coordinating line workers painters sign
maintenance workers like to the city
traffic you know whether that's making
uh drivers andest are like safer so
that's something that I do and then
there's the ips3 which right now is um
Lisa filling that position but we're
looking to obviously with her being
semi-retired get someone else in there
to assist with in office duties whether
that be Financial
or
general question go ahead please
regarding that so you saying that LE is
still coming in working one day a week
yes one day a
week um the other one for the principal
billing CL which was a last year half
part time and now just doing away with
that so this question direct you see
signal superintend Lang has to be do
with
grade the signal superintendent um
salary 111 to
97 I believe the 111,000 was originally
uh John
um they hired Brian at a certain salary
and then it's increased by 3% so the
97,000 3% of
currently 3% increase so
yeah I have a question go ahead please
so my understanding in addition to Lisa
is Mr pucho also doing some work with
the city correct so where where we see
that on the fees for service is where
are we seeing that that won't continue
into next year
anticipating it will not
okay that
was any other question on this section
uh go ahead please is 33 111200 in this
section utilities traffic 3311 sorry I
I'll get to that yeah yeah get just
asking about page um no I don't have any
more questions on that page if not we
can move to
um page 24
4
24 25
okay oh
yeah sobody just walk us through the
sign maintenance and then we'll go into
traffic so pain anything Crosswalk
Center Line basically anything that
isn't uh specialty they can do um also
making signs and downtime or the day or
the months that they can't be outside
you know doing their typical duties uh
sign maintenance supervisor leads uh
whether it's the painters or the sign
maintenance crew for the day and then I
talk with that same ass me and
supervisor and make sure that we're on
the same page as far as what they're
doing and using their time
op please uh as we heard from the police
department on number of instances about
needing to have signs replaced is there
like a normal turnaround time for signs
or is that a backlog project so I'm glad
you said that I actually have a report
from the police department that we're
going through they gave me their signs
that they feel need to be replaced we're
doing our own um inhouse uh observation
of what signs so I actually have to
follow up with my sign supervisor will
tomorrow make sure that we're on the
same page as far
as thank you for being on top of that we
need that yeah any other question
regarding sign maintainance seeing now
we'll move into the next page and uity
sorry I'm sorry go ahead what is
the oh okay nope I changed my mind I
don't have that question
anymore
traffic utility traffics traffic traffic
so bline workers assisting with we have
our Smart City initiative uring any
conduit that we have that we own is uh
Incorporated properly into the system
and protected and marked properly um
tend the street lights signals um
anything that we
really line worker crew
willine and with the supervisor line
worker uh similar to the supervising
sign maintenance worker uh getting with
me and making sure that day to day is um
optimally used and touching b on certain
things that may arise and uh making sure
we handle those things properly
quickly there's a on the traffic there's
a bump in on you leave Ferrari can you
help with
that EXC one of the supervisors going to
be reti next year we want to prepare for
okay got
you go ahead please I would say these
are conversations that continu from last
year with continuing to fund positions
with ar Club funding are can you speak
to just the need to this position not
that it's addressed this year but for
next year when the ARA dollars are going
to be
nonexistent is this a position you could
reabsorb in a different manner or is
this a position that can be without
better words just eliminated so no I'm
always looking for different
opportunities to find funding EV charger
funding is one to highlight in
particular that I'm actually looking to
get a hand over from tdon um probably
later this month but that I would look
to see as being a possible replacement
if you will probably not going to be the
same effect but um already have my eyes
set on that thank
you any other questions on this if I I
do on traffic equipment um aa3311
$220,000 um I wasn't sure um exactly
what was under traffic equipment so I do
need to know that but then my followup
is depending on what that answer is um
will this um be enough money if we are
um making any changes um on any of our
traffic caling um measures um will we
need to have more money there I don't
think with the traffic calming measure
that that would um be impacted by this
so what what I intend to use that money
for is for controllers uh that go within
our traffic cabinets I can get about
four with that amount um so to answer
your question no that that wouldn't
really affect it but that's it's very
useful for if we have a new intersection
want to revamp our equipment it will
list a short list of a couple that
probably seek some revamping so that'll
be what that Mone will most likely get
out okay great thank you very
much any other questions go ahead so can
I just go I'm sorry can I go back to um
just I'm just I want to be clear about
under under a
3310 signment for there three painters
I'm sorry this on page 2 there's three
painters Cor one's vacant right what's
that is there one vacant position well
it's a parttime so it's like two
painters and then we have a third that's
U I'm sorry he's a the sign
name page here it's page 24 what what's
it number a it is um 83310 yep and then
110 so yes that would
be the two painters and then the one
that we have a guy that's parttime that
can do multitude of things that we kind
of use in that that third position and
what what the percentage of
incre is what's the percent increase for
those
salers they have their own Union so it's
we didn't approve their uh contract
excuse me did we not approve their um
their contract yes so this will be
contractual increase yeah
okay yes all right
any other
questions if not we'll move to
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page I want to mention Capital yeah I'm
yeah page
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39 just the yeah oh
boy uh Power gas light power gas and the
Smart City National gri payment there um
402 ban will be able to touch on more I
believe that's more to do with
software and then repairs kind of is
kind of speaks for itself street light
Parts what we may
need so we'll hear about that on
Friday uh 402 will be to expand on
more B one will be able to
expend okay am I missing any another
department I got just uh vehicle No Cap
can I just ask this I know that one
expand administrative expense so we have
no numbers in here it's
just
isay has to do with Smart City expens so software Mr Ferrari can we have a
breakdown because it's software and it's
smart city
and Friday it break down yeah he has it
so I just said it's administrative so
isn't that individuals as opposed to you
because we're talking about um parts and things like that but this is
Administrative so these people that
we're talking about this is where we've
been spending the uh what's that called
the internet
money as administ expens
forof uh in relation to the Smart City
stuff so I just going to ask back the
same question can can you have one email
that to us prior to Friday so we have an idea breakdown that down we
don't come here and we just have a load
of
question I know yeah you should have a
breakdown because 710 we have to arrive
at
numbers um any other question if not
we'll go into
Capital um Capal Ono Capital you got one
utility and traffic signal replacement
250,000 thank you servers that's for the
also so the utility truck one and the
traffic signal
replacement those are the only two items
for um right
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any
questions just want to give us an
overview like what's happening what's
new Department things we need to know
abolutely
I'll allude to the first thing actually
first change I made in the city at
Wendell Union in rugby did a change most
of you probably are aware uh did a
change signage over um it's going to be
stried here shortly some feedback from
the residents to uh improve sight
distance as well so just making sure
that um drivers coming from the KN
Street side of wend uh you have enough
time to see someone speeding by which
we're trying to mitigate but uh does
happen so we're working with that uh
Corridor there uh the Smart City
initiatives is another that's just
ongoing um we actually are installing a
myo Vision system tomorrow tomorrow
morning uh over at eie Union and eie and
Liberty um that would
be the expanse of our uh Mion system is
going to be it's going to be added a
couple more there and then this will
give me that much more data to then um
either whether I'm doing track of coming
or trying to provide data to the council
uh to get back or I want to work with
the mayor on something an initiative uh
that in tandem with um where I got my
speed data which is ubiquia I don't I'm
sure anyone knows kind of that company
in charge of the smart nodes throughout
the city so with myo vision and ubiquia
working together and me identifying
where I need to kind of focus and and
spend my time and correlate data that
would be um beneficial for the path
forward and whatever case you see to
tackle we are expanding our equipment to
the point where that tax is
not so sight to me to be able to have
enough under my belt to be able to uh
that and take it
AP go ahead
please that a turn signal
on excuse
meior there we go I was focused on the
my vision but yes we're getting a left
turn signal as well on to you from Erie all right under the um uh
under the understanding that it'll be as
far as pedestrians everyone will have a
walk or no walk so there won't be any so
people will be able to cross
appropriately correct so my more signal
nobody
walk mod is more for drivers and it kind
of f sense um when a driver is queued up
and then that will allow it can
incorporate with the uh pedestrian sign
yes but uh thank you that was not more
time don't be missing anything we need
could he everything all the good
things um I'm working with the son um to
in the different neighborhoods there to
improve pedestrian safety I already
started on Upper Union Street moving on
to bana and Boose Hill so um just really
trying to hear as many as many people as
I can out without you know getting lost
in the noise so you know it's easy on
see click fix with a lot of the
different voices you hear there but um
just trying to make sure that I don't I
don't bury the lead so they going a
change so I just would like to add one
thing about if we're talking about P
stre safety and I asked for this several
years ago when they actually built the
new library well some old new but the BN
Branch library on State Street they also
built us a family do um the crosswalks
are quite a ways away and I see people
on a regular basis Crossing like they
just go across the street and then go
straight back um and I know that we have
crosswalks in other places in the city
that you it's a pedestrian crossb people
have to stop Etc so I recommend and and
I would certainly advocate for that
because there's a lot of elderly people
there there's a lot of pedestrian
traffic in that neighborhood and people
are crossing with their children so um
it was you know so we're talking about
pedestrian
safety is that haulk street Mar hul
yes CDTA are also uh revamping going
down State Street um the traffic signals
and pedestrian signals allowing for
better bus travel um and we're going to
have in addition to our our sign so
vamping all around uh we just had a
meeting today and Brian's you know
introduced them to CDTA in context there
that's great the State Street is uh
cta's number one travel Corridor it is
their number one line which is called
the red line and the CDTA is working
with the city we had all Department meeting you had police fire
ogs everyone today with the CDTA and the
CTA is doing the looking at the entire
Corridor so they're going to be making
some signal improvements that Brian just
mentioned and then almost all the
signalized intersections are going to be
doing ramps and crosswalks so what we
will do is make sure that the ramps and
crosswalks that you were talking about
in that area try to get folded in to
their project because their Project's
being paid with uh Federal a money
through a separate the city doesn't have
to so it's a it's a really boom to the
city Bri you want to say what they're
upgrading their signals to the program
what's that they're upgrading all their
main signals to this program correct y
so we're going to be able to get
information and data that we don't have
and it's going to be paid for by the
transit authority but yeah I know we be
a Coke about that we will put it on the
list because they're doing more than
even we thought they were doing because
I thought they were only focused on
signalized intersections but actually
looking at almost all of the
intersections as it goes up the great
thank
you any other
question again we're not missing
anything those are all good things that
happening yes that's everything thank
you so much thank you for all what
you're
doing thank you all have a good
even we will go into Cotes are you
ready you want to give your time up to
someone
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yes so the post Department
8664
tion increased by
3.0% thank
you to the zoning officer going back to
the dev
dep so Fran just walk us uh through
anything that will be on this the
admin changes anything you need to
address with us and then we'll go ask
you to question and then we'll ask you
go into tell us what's happening in your
department yeah Staffing uh you have
three vacant positions for uh code
enforcement officers that we are looking
fill you know we want to be fully
staffed so we can accomplish our goals
there in the F in our department um we
also have we're eliminating we're
proposing to eliminate a u the clerical
Aid
position which is the most entry level
of um administrative staff and uh
picking up one ips3
position so uh yeah other than that
we're fully staffed those four positions
are you changes that are going
on um Staffing that's where we're at
go ahead please sorry so um so you're so
the position that so these are both
filled positions at this point in time
I'm sorry these positions are both
currently both
filled the
uh the a the aid position is filled uhuh
um we're going to we're going to
eliminate that position and we're going
to pick up we're proposing to pick up an
ips3 position in place of that which
gives you two ips3 are there current is
there currently one ips3 there is yes
so
what is this like a tested position and
how does that impact the employee in the
position it's competitive um I'm going
to I'm going to recommend that we
um put our clerical Aid into that ips3
appoint we're going to appoint her to
that until the test comes up that that's
I that's where I'm leaning right now
um
so there's no current list then right
now excuse me there is no current I
expect that list to be depleted by the
time it comes around to to that in 20 by the time uh it comes around to a
point to that position I I don't think
there will be a list from what I seen
there's currently an ips4 little
correction on Roberta is still with the
city ips4 we put in an
ips3 uh to better retain administrative
staff it seemed like when we were at at
the lower clerical positions we're
having a higher turnover in Code
Enforcement so to uh retain better admin
staff instead of retraining uh new staff
that's the reason we're putting an ips3
in if the list is out now well we do and
not a huge correction correction on
correction um we do we do have an ips3
filled as we speak right now so she's
out on maternity leave but she will be
back next week so that's that's
Christina yeah
so there is
aent
weeks they're they're being released to
the Departments now uh top three at a
time I
believe we're currently going through a
couple of those people on that list are
currently employed with the city
so so there's a list there is a list
we're clear about that and the
individual that we're talking about
that's clerical Aid is not on that list
so that person could conceivably someone
else could conceivably say I want this
job and then that person is then out of
the job am I correct in
that yes you're correct um yeah you're
correct but I these these changes so I'm
new here so correct me if I'm wrong but
these changes are going to happen in
2025
correct as long as you're accepted and
we move forward with them so uh from
what I understand um there's a few ips3
positions being filled throughout the
city M there is and um so hopefully yeah
so uh you know I think this I'm pretty
sure I'm pretty confident that there
won't be a list anymore it'll be
depleted if there is a list have to
follow service
law that's essentially my
question understood I I think the point
he's making is we do have somebody in
the the clerical Aid position who is a
very good staff that if she fits the
bill when it comes around there's an
opportunity to fill that position he'd
like to put her in that position
absolutely so of course I understand
that we need to H off the list if there
is of course um so let me rephrase so if
there is a list at the time when it
comes time to fill that position of
course I'll hire off the list and yes it
will that means this person would have
been current city employee would then
not be a city employee anymore because
you would have to or yeah You' have
they'd have to be like oh because you've
gotten rid of their position and they
not on the
list okay I just wanted to be clear
that's that that's a clear
possibility
understood I don't think we would put
anybody in the position of potentially
losing their job if there was a list we
wouldn't hire that person and and
transfer to that he me there was a list
so no no there is a list that's correct
right but most of the jobs would be I
think he would his his point was he that
we have a really great admin in in the
staff he's putting his hopes out there
to have that person in that position if
it is
available following Civil Service law
right and if it's not available if it's
not available it's not
available option have come back to coun
make make that job
into that's
right just want to be clear that that's
a possibility understood it's I've
understood that possibility all along
and I support what we're proposing
here because sometimes we make those
changes if not necessarily to our
advantage so the so tell me the
difference of the duties between the
clinical a and IPS the ne why you feel
it's necessary to um to that person that
position yeah so we' got some
discussions about this and I might lean
on Chris a little bit but um just the entry level duties of the clerical
Aid
position um I don't believe they fit our
department we need some uh more uh more
skilled duties out of that position
um you know answering the phones just
not cutting it and it's not much Beyond
answering the phones for that claric Aid
position um so we want somebody that can
have a little more
um yeah the
job you're looking for it it does thank
you thanks yeah so with the municity and
software systems that a lot of the data
entry is electronic so entry to those
systems
uh you know and the qualification a
person would be at that IPS level could
be at an IPS 2 but I feel that the ips3
is a better fit for the city
agree so but you but you still but you
still say that if there's an opening you
would appoint that person until it
provisionally is that what you're
saying if there's an opening in the list
is already depleted Etc correct yeah and
I I think it I think it totally makes
sense the way okay uh being aware of
what is what the list looks
like uh I think my explanation of that
fits perfectly um and knowing what's
going on in the city uh and how many
ips3 positions are needing to be filled
um I I I think it's pretty accurate it's
always good to have in City uh somewhere
for somebody to move up and Achieve you
know and I guess three you know they
start as clar FL they they feel a good
fit they've been here quite a while uh
the ips3 you know is is a more of a
promotional fit for for a person do have
an ips4 in your department um you know
and that could grow in the future
too any other question this all ran so
just kind of walk us through what's
happening in your department since you
took what's
new what's uh what we need to hear or
what we tell us so things are going good
in the department um we are working
on we're working on developing our
structure our our leadership structure
so on a management level and we recently
filled the supervisor position and uh so
we're developing that hierarchy or that
uh leaders there leadership roles and
we're defining our our our positions and
uh so that's work in progress and it's
going well uh we're jelling well as a
team um things are going good we were
short staff uh on a on a scary level uh
being new and seeing that um it was it
was was a little scary for me but we
we've come back up a little bit um EVs
and flows we're going through and um
things are going well there um Staffing
is better I still want to fill the
vacant positions and it's a priority for
me so we can be more thorough in
our inspections our follow-ups we're not
rushing through things we are um you
know capturing the revenue following up
properly on violations and um seeing
things do properly so um you know being
well staffed all supports my goals there
um so you know that being said um you
know developing our structure and um
developing consistency in the department
um you know constant yeah constant work
um uh in staff meetings to reiterate um
you know policies and procedures and um
you know so working on that consistency
so you know being brand new in this
position it's say um it's it's it's
development and learning internally for
myself and my team and U there's been a level of of acceptance that I've seen
recently that is beautiful um you know
there's I think everything is natural
that I've experienced so far here you
know at first I I felt some resistance
our our our Department's very Dynamic so
all the stuff I'm speaking of um it is
you know is fitting so um you know when
I say it's Dynamic it's dynamic in what
we do and it's Dynamic with
personalities um there's so um you know
some of the things that I've experienced
are are wonderful and um you know some
resistance early on but it's developed
into acceptance and uh some really um
good um you know working together as a
team and it's developing well and U you
know that's what's going on in the
department um I have goals and visions
that are um just very preliminary and uh
you know in the infancy stage but um
being worked out being thought about and
um you know so I I look forward to uh
growing with the department and growing
in this position and um I'm happy in the
position and I I I I I feel I'm doing a
decent job there's a lot to learn um
Deputy Commissioner told me it was going
to be two years before I'm in this
position very well and I said I said I
don't think so I think I'm going to
shorten that but you know I I think you
might been spot on it might be two years
but I'm still looking to uh know this
position inside and now uh quicker than
that you know that's what's going on in
the department it's exciting it's
Dynamic there's a lot going on uh you
know we we heard Alexandria talk about
the uh the Dynamics of her department
and and and the big umbrella that it's
on Earth and it's very similar in code
enforcement code enforcement envelopes a
um a number of departments and uh you
know there's a lot to handle there I
look forward to uh tackling
it it well yeah you know I'm going to
ask you this question because I ask um
Miss Caro when you took over you made um
several changes in terms of the policy
that was not in um in complies and you
had to undo them because there were so
much concerns can you address those uh
where are we today in terms of what
happened several months ago in terms of
the problem that we were having when
there were several meetings with the
mayor in terms of addressing is you had
to you had to walk back some of them
where are we today it at so uh let's be
clear um I put one policy in place that
wasn't there before me um it's still in
place um and it's going to remain in
place it's a great policy um it did it
did um
break it did break uh um I I broke
something sometimes you got to break
something to fix it it was broken
accidentally it was something I was
unaware of so my policy I put into place
which was a pre-approval process so um a
pre-approval process a formal policy
that I put in place the only one I'd
like to be clear on that um and this is
where the officers do their um review
and they do their um
they do their work on an application
before it turns into a permit and then
they bring it to me and we go over it
one onone and uh before it gets moved
along to the permitting process so
before a formal approval goes into place
and a permit is issued we have a
one-on-one and U about you know and the
projects are they vary great and you
know we could have Windows and
Doors we can have a major addition
outside and everything in between um so
you know these conversations can be a
two minute productive conversation about
a job and they could be more of an
in-depth 10-minute meeting and um it's
just going developing consistency making
sure their job is done thoroughly uh
making sure the review process is done
thoroughly making sure um plans that
being uh plans that are needed
internally plot plans and uh
you know that go to other departments or
whether they be blueprints that relate
directly to the project making sure that
is uh
there's um the necessary level is coming
in so for instance if they hand John
plans or if stamp plans are required um
you know
because uh to be quite honest with you
there uh is was there was a level of
incomp there's still a level of incomp
competency and maybe it's not maybe it's
a poor choice of words but um there's
some training that need to be done and
um you know this was a training tool it
it's it's still it's out of my hands U
it's in my supervisor's hands it's
pre-approval process that is spelled out
um it's it's it's a wonderful process it
is developing um uh consistency and um
that's the only process that's the only
official policy uh that doesn't have to
do with attendance or uh anything like
that anything that has to do with the
building department is the only policy
that I put into place and I haven't
backed I haven't walked it back I won't
walk it back um
until when I do walk it back um it it'll
be only because we have a great level of
consistency among our officers and it
will still be in place for any new hires
that we have until they're up to speed
so that's can
okay can you address the terms of the U
the stamp drawing in terms of what's in
our code versus what you are asking for
when you took over I think um Chris can
help you with this too because he okay I
don't need any help well maybe I do yeah
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you it's just a summary I would just say
that any policies or procedures that was
put into place was put in for the
protection of the
city um City departments uh and and uh
you know with development engineering
and code enforcement with the uh lack of
experience that our code enforcement
department has uh we don't want to have
any erors so I think having oversight at
a higher level was needed uh to to
protect this and the officers for that
matter they carry a a high level of
liability so so I just want to so what
are we doing currently in terms of um
the stem drawing are we require stem
drawing for a minor repair on a front
porch Back Porch or are we going to the
city core where it says require stamp
drawing for $20,000 plus so we we follow
the state regulations and the rules that
are applied there um so any project that
is U over is it $25,000 20,000
$20,000 or is a state mandated yeah it
is State
mandated and that's nothing that we put
in place uh currently for uh the CI it's
just uh following the rules that are
applied to us um so we we do require
that and that's just uh to uh satisfy
the needs of the state so let me recap
so so any any work that's cost a work
over
$225,000 20,000 requires that drawing
anything below that does not require is
time
drawing well um if it involves
structural Integrity okay okay that is
at the Judgment of the authority so and
I I with the level of experience that I
have that I ring um I I feel um I I I
have a
um a perfect
um the point I'm trying to get at is do
we need to revise City CH to put that in
because it doesn't spell out it says
anything over 20 $20,000 should we
revisit that and kind of address it and
broaden the scope in terms of if is
structural yes you require so what the code allows us to do is
anything more stringent than what the
state requires but anything less
stringent would would not be
accepted okay let me just go on come
back please oh so can I'd like to
suggest this because it sounds like this
really needs to be more in-depth
conversation so we like Mr M and I get
bring them in at a committee meeting and
really go over all of the stuff because
it sounds like a lot um and because I
have some questions about the one one
but I'm not going to delve into that
because it sounds to me inservice
training would be the route but that's a
different day for different conversation
but I do want to ask about you said that
you have three Code enfor Enforcement
Officers vacancies and I see them on
here under the Aral line yes there's uh
12 and you have nine you have 12 for 20
25 and you have nine u currently working
correct yes yeah so these these that
these proposed fills for 2025 out of
arpa funds that two out out of two so
two of them so once the arpa money goes
away what happens to those positions and
then also the same question for the code
enforcement
supervisor I yeah no I I I need some help on that
topic very U that's a it's a budgetary
thing need historically prior to um
having arpa funds the supervisor was in
there I think we've worked uh very hard
to get the positions that uh code
enforcement needs in there they
currently funded through barpa I would
hate to see us go backwards on uh losing
code enforcement positions after all the
work that and I appreciate all the the hard work of the council to to give
us those position so I I believe they're
funded for that but um in the future
we're going to have to find a way to
either fund that or lose those positions
I just want to be clear that it is in
there for arpa and arpa's going to go
away and so what are we going to do then
that's not a conversation for me that
ends that starts when it goes away it's
a conversation that starts now and I
think this is a conversation we had um
with with uh Mr M with uh you know
raising the fees and and meeting with uh the Council on uh looking at the
building department fees and how to be
sustainable and the level that where
you're currently
staff go ahead please sorry
I um I think this is a large discussion
anyway because anything that's blue
lined my understanding is that anything
that's blue lined in this budget is arer
funded
exactly right so it's not just uh these
guys in this department but a large
discussion in terms of like I want to
know in their Department do yeah we're
going to
beg he got a swing sounds
like No And um I think that's that's the
reason why we started last year budget
into this year to kind of look at the
fees and we are at that point looking at
fees I'm sorry I missed it I had person
here but um I'm going to follow make
sure that we uh move forward with that
and get public hearing and address it
and if there's any tweak that we need to
do we'll tweak and move forward it's a step in the right direction to
bring in some additional revenue and
we'll address these um these position as
we go forward in the
budget any other
question I have one
more since you know talking about permit
um can you just elaborate and I know
Chris and I work on this in terms and
the council's very supportive of this
the uh permit fee waiver period I know
you're not a big fan of it but something
that the council wanted the May wanted
many many years ago and the reason why
we did it is because we going out in the
community the neighborhood association
they wanted us what are we giv back to
the community we want to revitalize our
neighborhood our property what is the
city giv back so we came up with this
idea many many years ago and he says
okay let's get back something so we wait
to perit for the last 3 months and we
had some good work with Chris and his
team back in time and we achieved 27
$30,000 within that given period and you
know yes it's a l to the city in terms
of Revenue but it's a gain to our need
what
so this year I am kind of disappointed
that we only did
$133,000 because of perit was taken 6
weeks and four weeks to get out and
people were so frustrated and we had a
conversation with me and back and forth
going forward because we intend to keep
this program I would like to see that
you kind of put something in place next
year to kind of like work with the
counil work with our neighborhood to
kind of like deliver this program to
help Revitalize and increase property
value that was our main go this year but
to see that it was not implemented
properly this year you know me
personally I'm disappointed because
that's something that we work on many
years yeah well I help you understand
how new I was and um you know stuff
coming at me through a fire hose and um
so that I think when we first met and
discussed that um it was maybe June 6th
and I was unaware I was unaware that it
was even going on um so um it it it came
quick
um as a lot has since I've been new this
position I'll be ready for it next year
um you know every step of the way is a
learning process for me and um I'm
taking it all in I think I'm fitting the
role nicely and um I'm on board um I I
didn't point that one bit um I I
expressed My Views early on and I I you
know not everything's going to make
sense when I'm brand new and um so um
I'm on board I'm on board with that
process and um you know the uh I know
you talked about the permits the
anything that was submitted in that time
period we were still honoring
a so I don't know if the uh report
reflected all of that but it possibly
was a little higher than what we
provided to you in the report I I will
have to look for a report with you Ma
see if any chart Falls and we'll have to
address it sure because we talked about
in previous year when there were some
missteps that we had to issue refunds
because if we're given waiver period And
if we didn't apply the waiver then we
will have to the right thing to do is to
refund the person who pulled for you so
we'll work down the road on that and
address those concern and I will bring
it to
C any other question is there anything
else that you need to
address I just say on that point um you
know one thing I've noticed is is just
an invite is needed from councel to the
department head uh when these things are
happening U just to get him I think
prim's really new here um you know not
excuse for making mistakes but um at the
end it was made but um having him
involved and giving the feedback um you
know for things that I saw in my time as
building inspector that um such as uh
roofing permits are usually you know uh
contractors are out there 6 eight you
know a year they're booking them in
advance they're charging the people for
the fees so they're not the people we
want to have the the deduction are not
really receiving it it's the people that
are doing the work anyways so roofers
are out there that's their time of year
so I think there's just some things to
think about um the way we we we go about
um issuing those waivers I think there's
some great things I've seen you know the
uh the fences and the exterior uh
Improvement
uh the
porches it's great work out there it is
and we did talk about that making sure
that the home only is pulling the
apartment rather than the contractor so
we going to address that we go next year
and I'm glad you brought it up in the
last several weeks that we
met any other
questions seeing none thank you so
much thanks we will go into gol our gol
do you want to wait we take
yeah you're not doing this to
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quick we're play
through thisy serious see now I know
what that
means all right so all right so just
brief brief
over minute very quick sou CR 7180 CR
7185 um special recreation facility
increased by
17.19%
um and there is no increase in the total
B pro
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expenses yes sir um I think uh
commissioner Ferrari also stated that to
the summary that u f fund budget uh only
increased by 2.29
% from the adopted 24 to the proposed
2025 budget only
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3,665 that's it okay mat it's all yours
and you walk us through anything that
you need to know and then give us you
know what's happening after the C SCH
yeah um definitely the best year we've
ever enjoyed there this year but you
know the weather is going be incredible
compared to last year I
mean last year was a completely
different story we were talking about
rain I think all sudden and done we had
about 45 rain outs yep in some capacity
and this year I think we've had about
three um so we're miles ahead of any
year that we've ever had up there the
new irrigation system has been installed
uh some other things that need to be
completed but the Bare Bones of it all
is going to installed and the uh course
is definitely reaping the benefits of it
it's the best I've been playing golf in
there a long time I've never seen the
course in the condition that it's in
right now it's just amazing and the
feedback that we're getting from players
is as as suchan you played there few
times you seen it
just yeah I'm
just so yeah they have to answer any
questions that you may have so you talk
about the golf course the maintenance
and the work that we did through arpo
and all that is completed what about the
golf
cart pchas some new golf cars you want
to talk yeah this is the second year of
pleas yeah how is that going great yeah
they're uh lium battery CS um they're
just they're better no question they're
quieter lighter um you can operate one
golf cart I Believe on the 54 Vol Char
you go three rounds on one charge for the lithium battery but they just
they they're faster they're smoother
safer yeah I mean everything about them
is better and uh the feedback we get on
those has been very
positive go ahead please um in terms of
the irrigation system M the it looks
like we still haven't we just haven't
outlaid all of that money yet is it is
it just that there's grow
still pending in terms of the offer
funding but we will be using that
funding we all of we spend that plus
some yes okay so our money is gone okay
just wanted to clarify that so the so
just just to let you know so what we've
been doing is uh I really think that you
know it has cost of money and thank you
for the art funding which was key to
every um we are really working on
hardening the golf course and making it
just really a top facil fac both not
only not only physically but financially
and structurally so now that we have the
new irrigation system we have we are you
know Cutting Edge we have the system
that we need um we put in the new water
line that was part of the aror project
as well the new water line now is
providing water to our maintenance
facility um just to you know go on the
record our previous superintendent Mike
cesne was an angel he was a terrific
person and he put up with a lot he put
up with porta potties and insufficient
facilities and the manual irrigation
system and I will never speak poorly of
Mike um the new group that we have is
extremely professional we're paying for
that professionalism but they are a Next
Level type of ir na company and because
of that we are trying to raise all of
our facilities our infrastructure and
our game to match um you know Matt was
the first step when we really wanted to
change from New Era and having mat there
really change the
face of the golf course because Matt is
the face of the golf course um but this
is really changing and we're really
working on changing the bones of the
golf course the water line we have
three-phase power now to our maintenance
facility we have relocated our Pump
Station from behind the home on Console
Road to um the maintenance facility
we've eliminated a garage that was about
to fall down we're hardening our new
garage uh with offices break room we
actually have a bathroom now with water
we are no longer reliant on a Porton um
we have a heated space I mean we have
really made strides to make the course
um just a more professional environment
it is really I mean Matt what were they
call immun now I mean IM mun is conc
National excellent excellent we we
really have changed the perception there
it's taken a long time but it is it is
coming around um you know we can get
into the capital part of it but we we
have other things that like to do um
with it like you know talking about
around the clubhouse regards to the
patio um we don't have any outdoor
seating we see that as a big hindrance
to really turning the page because you
just can't sit out there and view the
golf course as it is um you know we uh
as part of the irrigation system we have
uh we added some extra heads in our area
we have a s Farm started we didn't have
a s Farm before so that we can now have
native grasses if we need to do any kind
of repairs on the greens we are going to
be had use our own now oh that's yeah so
they basically we had three practice
putting greens at the facility and we
eliminated one of them cuz we didn't
need three so we just took the smaller
one it was located right next to the
first te and they just taken that s and
transported it to an area closer to the
maintenance facility like Chris said so
that s firm will be used there and uh
there is an irrigation line there to
help uh keep it treated and just it's
just going to be better for them
definitely uh something every course
should have that we never did before so
that's definitely another positive for
sure and it was absolutely no cost to do
that it was just labor that we know that
we're already pay for as it is and we
will be bringing uh an addition to the
three- face power which all we're
waiting on is an inspection so we'll be
very close to turning that on in the
next coming days we're putting a
spectrum cable uh to the clubhouse
because the new irrigation system will
be connected to the cloud it'll be able
to be used on a phone device so that we
can do that but we really because of
it's location we really want to have it
hardwired not uh any kind of a mobile
device so we're working with a spectrum
on that something pretty cool too that
you guys will like um one of the
features of the new irrigation system it
has lightning detection built into it um
each each head basically has a computer
chip beded embedded into it and so it
could detect lightning and within a 5
mile radius so what they did is they put
these posts with big giant horns all
around the golf course in the furthest
point so anything within that radius
it'll detect it shoot an alarm off and
alert golers which makes it easier for
us because it's it's very hard to
determine whether storms are going to
hit or not and sometimes you don't know
until they're right on top of you until
it's too late so this will be
good it'll warm the golfers Lightning's
in the area you might want to come in
wait till it safely passes and then
we'll send them out but it's it's pretty
neat to have that I don't know if any go
course around that
does so the the other thing I would draw
your attention to just because it's
Unique I guess it's going to be um we
talking about here you talk about it the
last line advertising golf advertisement
so you know we have other than raising
rates um which we may propose as the
improvements come we usually come and
raise rates a dollar here or there we do
that before the season and we try to
continually make sure that we're
competitive we don't propose that until
we see what our competitors and are are
doing for the coming year because we
like to be you know competitive but we
don't not ever want to be top we are
meeting course we understand that um but
you want to talk about who we've signed
up for our advertising the goal with
that yes it's one company uh uh the name
of the business is called obad and so
basically what they do is they do all
the work for you they'll go out and get
the advertising for you um we can sell
advertising on the GPS screens uh for
all the T boxes and just various areas
that we're looking to get that and
they'll go out and they will actually do
all the leg work for us which is pretty
nice because it's not an easy thing to
run the golf course and try to find
advertising at the same time so it would
be nice to have that and uh I don't even
think their cost was very high no it's a
percentage of what it is we get to
dictate um how many ads uh you know if
you've ever been immune and you've
looked up our scorecard um one of the
things that I made sure is and this is
not a knock on other courses but certain
courses have scorecards that look very
similar to the diner
menu they're very to busy very many ads
and that is fine and I will never
begrudge someone for making Revenue but
we have a very nice card we do ourselves
with two prime sponsors on that card but
I mean one of the things that we have
been and the mayor has asked us to do
but it's just such a challenge is the
majority of courses that run GPS the GPS
usually should operate at a net zero
that GPS should be used to advertise
every ble can be geofence so that when
you come to a green when you come to a
location it tells you what you're should
be doing and Matt and I do not have the
background or the time to actually
procure you know what would could be
anywhere from you hope minimum 18 one
for whole but really you're hoping for
36 you're hoping for a t box in the
green t box in the green and that that
screen turns over um and that's what
we're really hoping that they would get
involved in is helping us Market that
and bring some Revenue so we we put a
modest amount here but we're really
looking at you know what what we can do
uh when this company comes in because it
is one of the only areas left that we
have to try to increase
Revenue
nice go ahead please uh I know the
police department was successful in
partnering with their CEO program and
having their local uh school car
designed by a high school student which
I thought was an amazing component any
thought and partnering with some of our
local universities to have either a
Capstone class they can kind of partner
and provide that marketing assistance
where it buys in that whole V concy
mentality just a thought I wasn't being
close to that get a little more educated
on it for
sure um again great course many many
improvements over the years I just got
somewhere and I don't remember they were
electric carts and they were advertising
every time we pulled up to to somewhere
um didn't bother me at all get out and
hit the ball but um as far as in those
uh porns um you know in years past you
know I'm out wherever and somebody one
of your one of the attendants is driving
in a carart you know you know calling everybody in yeah so when you
can't get in um I you know I I I I asked
about this before you thought maybe our
Carpenters could do it I think it's very
important for safety reasons to have a
couple sheds to bring back the shelters
shelter shelter we used to have Shel
shelters and we had to take them down
you think bring them back I mean I think
it's extremely we had a far course might
not be a bad idea to have something like
that said sometimes you can't get in
there were a couple place for stuck out
there a few weeks ago Matt had to go out
and get them and bring them in um it was
extremely dangerous as for the um the
design of the shelter would be
imperative it would really um we would
really have to focus on how to make a
covered area that is also very
transparent and visible um because the
old shelters were more like a shed and
they could be Hangouts I mean the golf
course as it is and already you know
seen that we do have nor parent and
child nearby um but that's not the
outreaches of the course I know where
you're thinking we can look into it you
are right it is an many that it has on
several courses and we do not have them
anymore I remember them when they were
there I can tell you right where they
were but yeah that but that just go
right to especially when you're walking
you hear that Five Mile thing coming up
you know you're looking where to go MH
you know when
you're okay hopping a ride with somebody
on a cart they don't have room for your
clubs and your push car and uh if you
notice I wish I had the picture on me
but our Carpenter uh it was a Steve
built a beautiful new staircase on a
whole was it 11 12 and
uh and it was in need of repair so they
repl up all right so the capital before
you gois you mentioned a potential free
did you did you a that on the CR 2025 J
or is that what our revenues are based
off of no increase because you have not
approved any increase so this is this is
based off of if you go into next year as
it as is so what do you we adopted the
adopted 2024 Revenue was 550,000 y this
year you are proposed 600,000 so there's
a 50,000 increase there yeah yeah
and uh as you see in 2023 we actually
hit almost hit 600,000 and this year
we're going to probably hit I don't
we're going to be well over
600 so I mean I mean if we're talking
Revenue lines right now Matt what's your
projection we were talking about it I
mean be a little conservative but it's a
big number this year yeah I mean we're
going to be over 1.6
million okay in Revenue fees yeah
Revenue oh over
overall theine no no whe we determines how good it is we
had a great year well yeah I mean I
can't say for sure next summer is going
to be like this one obviously I mean I
would have to think it's
not PS you won't have to cancel right if
there's cut pths you know I I also just
want
to we talk about that Capital
practice I see right here so capital
projects uh I don't know what you're
looking at I'll tell you what
atal second
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page so I just want to make sure that
our so so right now what we're looking
at is a spreader it's a very
simple piece of Machinery that attaches
to the back we use it for fertilizer
spreading we're looking at a core
sweeper a core sweeper is kind of exact
what it sounds like if you've ever been
on the golf course after we air rated
there these little core called them
plugs uh this machine is a specialized
machine that picks them up uh a chemical
mixer which is almost like a giant thing
that you see in high school uh chemistry
class just so that we can mix some of
our fertilizers together uh greens mower
um the greens mower actually I got a
quote on it I was thinking of a fairway
mower so I will be adjusting that cost
in the budget a greens mower is
$50,000 fairway mower
is150 um the clubhouse patio um that is
I have a rendering I did not bring it
but um we are looking at doing a simple
uh paper patio outside and doing some
cart workk to try to make an outdoor
space and then uh a greens roller we
bought a greens roller 8 years ago a
greens roller really adds to the um
Quality and then um we're looking to buy
our first uh lithium ion utility cart um
so we've had good luck with our lithium
ion carts I was on the course for an
event and they have the utility card
that they do the trash and some of the
pick up with it's gas it idles you hear
it everybody can hear it so we thought
that maybe moving to you know we were
trying to go electric with all of our
equipment so moving to this part giving
it a try uh it'll be quiet and Silent as
it runs around while people are playing
gol I think it would be a nice asset so
the new Total just so you're where um
with all the cost updated is
29757 297
MH 500 297 297 500 okay thanks so and
that is paid for out of Reserve reserves
that is not a bonded item so you know
you'll see time to time if I need
equipment because usually the golf
course pays for out reserves I'll come
and ask the council permission to add a
piece of equipment but this is our ass
for the year
so go ahead please so if if we do put in
a uh uh patio would the fee for the I
saw the $5,000 something in there for
the clubhouse would that go up or would
it be so so just just yeah so we're on
the same page of this so this year is
the last year of the current tenants uh
agreement so what I asked to do is the
reason that I have the renderings is I'm
trying to put a little bit more meet on
the bone for people to come in bid um
because if you look at the revenue line
one Revenue another Revenue I can't
increase what I would love to is the
concessions right if you look at the
budget right we're a $1.6 million
operation and the concession pays us
$35,000 a year so you know I mean the
concession is literally just there to
serve people it really does no um direct
Financial impact it is a complimentary
function of the golf course we're not
making money really off of that but we
are because we wouldn't have leagues and
tournaments that we want but we we have
to compliment but I just feel like so
what I did is I met with Matt we met
with our architect we had a nice
rendering proposed that we could afford
to do and I put it in the RFP package to
say that the city is looking to build
this thing because I don't think I think
it's the first question that would come
up with someone that would be reasonably
looking at it is that I'm on a golf
course and you have no outdoor space and
I mean that's what I will get if you go
to Orchard Creek we go to Eagle CEST we
go to anywhere outdoor space Manhattan
huge outdoor space and uh so we we
needed that so that's why did the
rendering put it in and that's what
we're hoping and we're hoping once again
is to answer your question that's why we
put it higher we're hoping that somebody
looks at it and says okay I can make
some more money maybe have some more
people pay a little bit more thank
you I I support that because I think
that there's just huge potential for you
know different kinds of events that many
of us probably attend at other at other
courses where there's a baby shower or a
wedding shower or something like that so
I think the improvements to the patio in
combination with you know the RFP for
the for the vendor is you know hopefully
going to generate more
revenue goe on gol Le grounds there was
a high of 254 in 2022 then it really
dipped and now it's 230 and 2.5 can you
explain that is that weather related
ground
cr2025 m is it yeah from 2023 yeah yeah
so last year that were uh that was there
were so many rain dates so we had to
credit back a lot of of the leagues so
with this year
being a much better year we're not going
to have that issue next
year so we're going to see a significant
increase in that but yeah a lot of the
leagues I mean I think um Tuesday night League specifically did
not play for the entire month of
July they had I think six rain dates in
total that they just couldn't play with
the course were unplayable and that
happened on a multiple evenings so we
just got hit pretty hard in terms of
that I just have one about the budget um
in terms of the you said the green mower
um Mr long it it's going to ,000 as
opposed to
150,000 I was in my head I had it as a
fairway mower a fairway mower is
significant larger and more expensive
and so when I got the quote it was so
it's 50,000 yes so so but so we're
taking 100,000 out of this I yeah I
stated the new amount yeah but it but
it's it's like 35,000 more than it would
be if you if you it was just 100,000
then it would be
262,525
maybe my math is wrong 3, 45,000 I
can should be 26
262 you said
297
262500 okay thank
you thank you see what I crossed out all
right that was it thank you for me any
other
question anything else any great job uh
thank you so much thank you for all
you're doing there yeah thank you very
much go make some money for
us hold on just one
second I'm I'm just sorry Anthony I'm
missing something you want to go back to
the capital yeah my number is my number
is adding up so that means there's
something
missing
3,000 oh I'm sorry did I not tell you
the the core sweeper is not
$155,000 oh that's the core sweeper is
very expensive I didn't realize that I
got the core sleep byon spread 3,000
core sweeper
45,000 chemical mixture 1500 greens
mower 50 Clubhouse patio 150 greens
roller 25 lithium carp 23,000 instead of
18 there
you so it comes 2975 so
else there was there was a there was a
bunch of adjust the cor wor 45,000 not
15 3,000 45,000
45,50
25 is
50 297 lithium ion cart is 23,000 not 18
okay that that accounts for the other
5000 so what I while I was doing the
budget I reached out to all of these
vendors you have to work through a
wholesale vendor and they got me the
quotes back a couple weeks ago but it
was after I had submitted estimates so
now I have I I submitted it to Anthony
Derek today when I have everything as a
package so that number is the 297 is now
correct 29751 I'm sorry I didn't I
didn't think of M yet I have the sheet
that I sent if you don't have this sheet
no it's okay I just wanted to CU the
math wasn't math for me so thank you the
math was not any other question from M
or PR thank you so much again thank
youate anybody want anybody want to take
a minute break minute break no I want to
get
abely getting more water I at
mybody
sorry who's next hurry up
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all right all right so we'll move into
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department
very can you just give me the page
number please picking up Anthony's page
27 thank you oh now you're picking up
your work he wants to do an over
very yeah before you start Chief we'll
hand it over to the direct just do a
brief overview and then we'll hand it
over to you and you walk us through okay
everything that we need to know within
your department and then we'll ask you
to kind of highlight what is happening
in new and what we need to
know so the fire department budget
increased by
1.96% very small amount um just note uh
the local 20 uning has not been
negotiated uh CA has negotiate so they
do become uh negotiate for 2025 the
budgets will
increase okay before I start I'm just
going to tell you it's been very
stressful the last three hours I have to
listen to the development talk about
putting fires out codes talking while
drinking from a fire hose and then the
golf course talks well with the
environment so I might be a little
rled the
it's only it's only like 68 golf carts
so one
building
um I'm not the uh most tech guy I got a
lot of help uh Judy and others in the
office helped with the uh PowerPoint and
she said that red looked angry but
respons no I'm not angry okay a little
too red we're going to move on anyways
all right so what I want to do is just
take a few minutes
to show our department compared to other
departments other departments that are
very similar to us and what I hope do is
when we get done you can see just what
this department does this is a very good
Department it's working with short
staffing and it it provides a lot to the
community and it does it if
so we'll go through this quick not to
keep you
long n Falls 50,000 people smaller than
our city uh but they have a lot of they
do have a lot of uh visitors coming five
stations 132 firefighters they have 26
per day and they do 7,500
calls we go to
Bingington about the same size 47,000
five stations 17 firefighters per day
I'm sorry 117 firefighters on on this
job 21 firefighters per day they do
11,000
calls
Troy 50,000 people six firehouses
117 24 per day they do 13,000
calls uica pretty close to us although
their city is bigger in in
Mass six stations 132 firefighters 23
per day they do
17,000 now the next one is
Al bigger Department right 102,000
population eight firehouses that's
double the size of us 260 firefighters
that's double the size more than double
the size
47 that's crazy per day look at that
number of what they do per year 25,000
great 25,000 that's the number I want
you to focus on and now it's connected
almost 70,000 population for
firehouses back in the uh Stone ages
when I came on we had six firehouses
before that there were
10 we had 155 when I came on now we're
119 but we have 110 available I'll get
into more that minimum Staffing is 20
and we're approaching 20,000 calls just
take a beat back at
Albany over double the
size huge number per day and they're
only doing 5,000 calls
more so Department comparisons kind of
hard to see there but I just wanted to
focus what everybody else is doing
compared to us hope you and I'm sure
you're getting the point that I'm trying
to
make um this is
another U comparison done by the
graph the
tall uh the pillars that's the number of
people that you have per day and then
that black line going up is the number
of calls as you see we're the shortest
pillar and where they almost touch in
ofing okay that gives you the comparison
of how many people we have how many
calls we're
doing so what are we doing Fire
Department fire suppression right that's
obvious we are the primary paramedic
service in the city our people are
trained to a very high level of
medical we are very happy to support the
police department with their SOS team
their swap team they asked us if we
would provide that with tactical Medics
and we happily did that that's another
service we're providing uh and our
people are highly trained to work with
the police our special operations Team
part of that is the county HazMat team
we go all throughout the county if you
remember earlier this year later part of
last year we had some issues with um
trucks
carrying propane
liquid uh fuel right we had within a
week or two I can't remember exactly two
major incidences and our people were
there for that uh confined space we
provide that throughout the county uh
landbased water
rescue uh we have now developed a we're
working with the county with their drone
program we're supplying we're supplying
pilots and since the Inception of that
program uh there have been 50 missions
from and it's getting more you do the
more we're
doing uh community outreach I've been
here a long time we've never been in the
community more than this
year and just listed a few of the people
few of the organizations that we've had
the privilege to work with from a Coco
house to a little bit of love to uh the
sound the alarm stop the bleed program
Community CPR just to mention a few fire
investigation you've heard me say this
before I've said it individually I've
said it in public we've got the best
fire investigation fire prevention
unit in the area in the region in the
state they're good they're really good
they have 100% conviction rate for any case that goes to travel that number
is astounding we have a Smokehouse
that's our traveling classroom we're in
the community we're at the schools
teaching the youngest when people when they're most impressionable on fire
safety and I'm going to tell you a
couple stories about that uh juvenile
fire Setters program that's us working
with the school district working with
Social Services identifying people
children that may have an issue and
dealing with it early so it doesn't
become more of an issue as time goes
on Staffing now Staffing tell you I get
a headache talking about Staffing trying
to figure out Staffing we we confer
about this a lot I want to just focus on
a little bit on available people we're
not that far from
full staff we're five vacancies right
now supposed to be
119 uh we're down to 114 so you look at
me and go J Maro why are you crying
you're almost full Stu well I'm crying
because we have seven people in school
so you take the five and the Seven
that's 12 we've got five
more by April that are going to be
leaving
retiring you talking a big
number um so this here but I'd like you
to take away from this we're going to
start the year 2025 with 109 people and the number is going to fluctuate 109
people available to us and going to go
up through the year it's going to go
down it's going to go up we're going to
end the year with
109 available people what does that mean
that means the people that are on the
front lines every day are are working
more and more and
more
so in summary we're the busiest Fire
Department in the region in the state
for firefighter no
one does more calls per fire fighter
than it's going no one provides the
amount of service that we do to our
community the new hiring model is
working and I want to thank
the council and thank the mayor for you
believing in what we told you that we
needed to change how we hire didn't
change our
requirements we just changed how people
are going to get those
requirements we're we're helping people
that want to be here that maybe can't
afford to go to paramedic school at
$8,000 to the program or they don't have
the time because they're raising the
family so you allowed us to change that
we've hired 11 people this year seven of
which we would not have been able to
hire if you did not allow us to do that
so I thank you very much for that and we
have to keep going with it
um we're very conscious of how much
things are and what we need to
do uh our office staff led by Judy and
the ladies the two other ladies Leah and
Jenny in there I just want to say that I
talk about how great our department is
and how they work with less and they're
doing so much more that goes for the
office staff too you you actually need
three more people in that office they do
tremendous work but we have tried uh we
went for a safer Grant this year first
time ever we're trying to uh up our
staffing with that and
we were
unsuccessful three years ago 10% of the
applicants were successful last year 8%
of the applicants were successful this
year 6% of the applicants were
successful we made it to the final round
uh we just didn't get to the end um afg
we applied for a a grant that would pay
for our people to go to school to kind
of to lessen the burden on the city
because sending them School send them to
paramedical school on the fire academy
it's not
inexpensive we are unsuccessful and we
will try again next
year Staffing level is going to remain
the same it's going to remain a
challenge for next year but we have to
keep doing what we're
doing everything I just spoke to comes
at a cost comes at a financial cost it
comes at a physical cost or people for
our members because they're out there
every day doing more they're more
susceptible for illness we we have we've
been struck by the cancer book we've
have several people that have been
diagnosed with cancer and some other
issues and it comes at a mental health
cost so does does this matter anything
what I said in the last 10 minutes does
it matter I think it matters um can tell
you a little story you may have heard
this a little bit
before um our fire prevention staff was
at z school October 19th
2021 little girl Chloe
attended and very attentive young lady
she went home that evening gathered up
the family and said firemen were there
today at school talked about this and
Mom Dad we got to do this this and they
did they came up with a with an
evacuation plan they came up with what
do you do if they smoke in the house
they came up with meeting place
everything we all know they came up with
it all that was October
19th well on October 24th 5 days later
Chloe looks out the window and sees her
house on part and immediately goes into
action and does everything she was T and
got everybody out of the house safely no
one got
injured that was October 24th and
October 29th 5 days later our fire
investigation unit was able to make an
arrest the person that set the fire it's
when everything happens right everything
went according to
plan one of the council members asked
me je how many players to prevent I
can't tell you that I don't know what we
prevent it I wish I could tell you that
can tell you how many players we've had
can't tell you what we presented but
Chloe's one of many what we do matters
what that what our members do
matters uh another um story we're in the
schools now teaching a program that's
called stop the
bleed we've been doing it for three
years and in that program we teach how
to manage sever h
this year we were there just at to start
a school taught the program teach people
how to apply
tourniquets couple of weeks later there
was an issue at the high school someone
was was injured severely had a had a
major Hemorrhage one of the staff
members that were at that class knew
exactly what to do had a tette and
control that bleeding and if he didn't
do that the patient would have suffered
more severe injuries than he already did
so does it matter it matters it
definitely matters so what what would I
like everyone here in this room anyone
watching to take away is be proud of
your fire
department you all know we're not
perfect we're not
perfect
but the people that come to work every
day and are on on the line every day put
their lives on the line they do a great
job they do an awesome job so everything
in that budget are things that we need
and I think you know the times I've been
here we don't ask for things we don't
need we ask the things we need we're
efficient with it
um it's about all I got to say and thank
you for passing my budget and I'll see
you next week thank
nice
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try I hope you're ready for your
presentation sure I am song and dance
yeah all right
so we'll start with um just we'll go
through uh fire Administration and let's
go through and if there's anything that
we need to questions we ask answer and
we move
forward into various uh departments
under your control
um page 26
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let our budget went up um 1.9% from last
year I'm sorry what was that 1.9% from
last year what went I'm sorry the entire
budget I can you with facts and figures
but whatever you want
to we'll go through uh page 27 okay if
you can just walk us through and we'll
just roll into the
next anything that we need to do you
don't need to anything I don't think
there's anything and open for question
please go ahead uh assistant chief so if the new amounts or contracts haven't
been out I
whoever that individual is has a raise
well it's a this is a two-parter
okay all the all the
positions have an 8% differential so
from lieut to Captain Captain the deputy
chief okay has an 8% the assistant chief
that position was behind that 8% so I
have
requested um an increase so between the
chief and the assistant chief there' be
an % differential when I had asked for
that I was informed that I can't just
ask for that I have to look at
legislation which I did There's
legislation there's an ordinance
out well when I did that I found that we
haven't been following that formula so
you see that in the budget was 159
that's what we left it at but when we
applied a form
that position actually should be
166
967 so to follow the formula at the
legislation it should be even higher
than the 159 I asked for and with the
Chief's position that position should be
about $3,000 more it's
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17334 and the budget it really should be
176
684 it did not put it in the budget
because I was told I had to look at the
legislation which I did and then um I
got permission to increase it yeah for
the
8% well the 8% was that's what motivated
me to ask for a raise for that assistant
position and in so doing and doing the
research I found well we're those
positions are either they're getting
paid even less than they should
according to
legislation s can you please make note
of that and we can
look I think it's under the mayor's
discussion um how he's going to proceed
with those
salaries any questions go ahead please
so my question is overall of the blue
lines which means it's
arine um so you know which will be for
all departments to have it is at this
point in time how are we going to move
be able to move forward because they're
needed lines I mean they're small
amounts of money for the most part
mostly supplies and things um just want
to make oh no the firefighter Academy
well can I adjust the blue line can you
adjust it I can address it can I address
it yes okay uh I learned about the blue
line when we started these talks today I
did not know about the blue line I was
surprised to see the Blue
Line uh so if the blue line is there or
not it's still funds we need that that's
more how Finance would like to account
for it because we did not have those
funds we just were requesting the funds
we need I see you didn't know the source
correct got it and and about the red
screen it it I didn't make me angry but
it certainly changed when I look back at
my paper I'm like I keep seeing this
use a different background
team J told me to I didn't do it she's
100% well we're going to go with blue or
police all right any other question
for any stuff on page 27 if not we're
all next page see what page I'm on um 28
is
that well on page 28 I'll point it
out I have a341 404 404 I have a
question about that okay
um so half of the explanation
is all these things go up are psych
evaluations are Dr extrem so that's what
the servic that's what my question is
what are the services that are in that
okay okay
um down recruitment is in there the
website fees are in there but Dr tolin
fees okay and she's our clinical
psychologist um so she is she gets
$1,400 a month which is quick math it's
at 168 a year 14,000 plus
28 what does that come to 28
two so that's half of that increase okay
all right
mhm uh you want to touch
on which one already
410 465 we had it did we were using um our
reporting system was probably 5 years
old and they the company was no longer
supporting that
system what that means is when things
broke down they weren't fixing them and
they weren't doing um you know do
products to to improve on it and it
became obsolete so we were forced to go
into a couple of different reports one
report one reporting system is called P
staff the other one is called fire
reports um and they were all more
expensive than what we were previously
using
that's why that's
M any questions from page
28 if not we'll move to page
29 see anything major there I went
up the next one I have of a of an
increase is a 341146
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from 45,000 last year to 64,000 this
year it's because we're sending people
the school that covers um
is it's
$8,000 um a person theem paramedic
school right yes
Ma and then the next one will
be uh 465 same category
that went up $8,000 and that's just that
uh for our Reporting System again our
EMS charts that's our digital
pcrs Striker that's um our maintenance
feed for our
monitors and they those mten contracts
from uh I'm on page 30 now
I don't
see anything nature there public safety
equipment any want to discuss from that
which are that is
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423 it's on that same page page 30 at
the
bottom at the bottom
um those are our our turnout Gees
turnout
and so we're on a we're on a
schedule uh where we try to replace them
they have a 10-year life so we're on a
schedule where they get replaced at the
appropriate
time any other question on page Char I
just go ahead please it's more of a
comment and I Know Chief and I have had
a lot of conversations and I appreciate
them and I appreciate the context that
your brief gave I think it's just
identifying that we're in a difficult
spot where we paid for temporarily
permanent positions and it's pretty much
impossible to go
backwards I'm sorry can you so to AR
funding is a temporary funding source
and we've permanently adopted these
positions into like your your workflow
so the worry is that it's evitable it's
inevitable we can't go backwards so I
think it's just a realization of this is
the position that we currently are in
with using a temporary funding source so
it wasn't a question it just a
realization and then I think it was made
very evident with your briefing um but
as the com comment that has just been
constantly uh highlighted throughout the
conversation is what do we do when ARA
is no longer
here I thought ARA was
gone I thought who's gone this year it's an issue larger than just your
department sorry it's an issue much
larger than your department yes
absolutely but when we put the put our
budget together we never considered our
but we've had many need and this I was
surprised that there was AR money it
doesn't change what we need no doesn't
change there's 13 positions from two it
was two and now at the
13 I just want to note that the so for
a34 1200 it's not that entire amount
it's we're just trying to use
43,000 and that reflects that 3 million
that's in the revenue um so to recapture
those funds to
help bridge the gap we have in revenues
and
expenses but still my comment was you
had the ARA firefighters going through
the academy so we introduced those six
new bodies or 160 firefighters into this
P
plan if we don't have
those I'm not
yeah6 is looking ble all right hold on I do think that um cuz the bottom line
is that it's still the same number of
people I think 112 and 112 am I reading
that wrong so I think what happened was
things got shifted but let me look
that's what I wrote on my Note when I
was going through this that the lines
shifted I think a question I me ask is
that why it was two last year on that
line why
turkey why not stay
2412 100 yes
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I'm sorry where are you John John where
are
you number the amount of money is
700,000 it's
only3 343 so you're looking at these
fire
captain
right okay so the firefighters we have
different levels right so when someone
becomes a firefighter there's step one
then the next year to from step two step
three step four so those numbers will
constantly change but it's still this
it's the global
number we budget for 119 but next year
uh that 13 might be 10 five because they
moved out of that step and moved into
another step it's
not don't get confused that those are
additional people no just I don't think
that's the question the question is
why why take of
our yeah that's that's a
final question yeah that's I'm that am
of um firefighter that you have in in
this apartment is more of the funding
source because when this when this goes
away next year where are we going to
find a million dollar I thought it went
away this year
question raise taxes so but Mr um mrar
was saying no but that's true that's
what we're going to have to do but Mr
Ferrari was saying that this number
doesn't really represent a whole the
same amount what you explain to them
even though they put the 700,000 that's
not really what it is is right what we
did is is because we're not sure AR's
going to pass or not so what we did is
we put the clue line in but you're going
to receive a package tonight it's going
to show the amounts like for instance
8341 12100 is only for 300 where
842 343 469 total not 700 and the other
number
that's so that's not that's not that's
not it's a it's a it's we're showing you
what's going to be our Prof funded but
we're going to show you this the mou and
separ Page the line underneath that
there is seven in 2024 and then one for
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2025 if you look at the total number
it's 112 see so it's still the same so
total number so this leave me to um to
ask for can we separate these in terms
of okay you don't need
seven we will bu is adoped we will
separate because shouldn't we be looking
kind of at the bot I mean what did you
say the bottom line was it's a 1.9%
increase or something I
mean no um the question is we need to
know how much is going towards this line
from AR it is not 78,000 from AR it's
300,000 I think I think there needs to
be a report uh for us to look
at it doesn't send a wrong
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message into next year that we need
700,000 thank
you right now it's right now here if you
look at this I'm telling myself this is
exactly how it's reach 7 or 8,000 from
our
you look at the revenue section the
total amount 3 million is
what we use
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our F balance for 2026 did you hear that
I I I don't know I don't know if
everybody heard you say that t so but
the question is not is not I understand
what you're saying however this doesn't
truly reflect because we're seeing 78
but you're telling it's really only 300
so we really would like to see exactly
I I understand but this is all we had in
the
me oh I I would like to see this
Revis it will be I think right don't you
give us a REV before before we adapted
we should have
rev
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fix this is I yeah oh okay this is what
about okay perfect thank
you did you get one I'm
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sorry he he only gives it to people that
were in the
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room all right yeah we can take care you
can do that yeah if you don't mind
please we'll do that tomorrow yes so
let's have a
clear yeah thank you have a clear
picture of of where the funding are
coming from all right any other question
on page
30 see now I move to page 31 31 I'll
point out um 3342 453 clothing and Dry
Goods um we've been dealing with an
issue with with our class A uniforms in
particular we have 30 people that do not
have uniforms and they're supposed to be
issue that when they come on the job so
we propose that we take care of 20 of
those next year and
um they $500 a piece so that
takes that is part of that increase the
rest of that increase is just uh
increase amounts for for our uniforms
for our church ands andu all those all
those costs have gone
buying 20 what you say 20 30 we're we're
planning on buying 20 to try to fix the
problem thank you right now what's
happening is someone it's going through
an event or whatever funeral whatever it
may be and we have to scr around and hey
you're working can I borrow your
CL any other questions any question on
page 31
see have Lieutenant have
three4 two
is motion are you u under
343
yes if you remember I came to the
council and I proposed that we take one
of the lieutenants and make that a
captain spot so that that's what this
reflects instead of three lieutenants
you have two
any other question let's move to page
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32 I don't see
anything I guess you could point out
um for 50 supplies and what that is
that's um fire safety material that just
goes to the
um to the point that we're in the
community so much these are things that
we buy uh for
giveaways those are nice yeah
pamphlets uh fire safety pamphlets uh
giveaways for the kids M cops always
givea away
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love but we we got a little we got a
little cute to give away a lot of
beautiful gifts right so what we did was
we went out and bought bag that say it's
conc fire department and the kids take
all the giveaways from the cops put them
in our bag they but um just talk about
seriously buying goodies we also have
the um going back to 2410 4028 $25,000
that is set aside for the public safety
Foundation that is also to buy supplies
and things like that for your own G that
is for when we support the organizations
we make donations to the organizations
donations Coco house a little bit of
love on the on the H okay so it's more
of sponsorship both sponsorship that
that's what the council gave us the last
two uh budgets now this year we did not
receive that so well we were told we W
going to receive it so we put it in our
budget so there thank
you you want to increase it where is
that
John Sor for um page page 28
8 3410
4028
25 oh yeah we have done that over the
year we split it it was 50,000 to the
police department and may have requested
that we split it 25 y fire 25 to police
that's been tremendous that does that's
been tremendous support for the yeah it
does and it helps with the community
outreach and that's you know that's
something that we need to to focus on
more and glad you all Department are
doing it the it
helps okay
page
32 anything on that if not we'll move to
page
33 33 the Fig increase will be found in
406 in service
training uh that's we are hoping we're
planning on hiring
10 next year and that's to send to the
academy
$41,000 it's $4,100 per candidate wa I
I'm not seen what line is that that is
that's around 33 33 all the way to the
bottom 3414
406 so it's so it's actually on page 32 page 32 page 32
yes it's hidden yeah I know it's you you
got a page I just want to point out that
it took me until just a couple of
minutes ago to realize that uh you put
the page numbers up on the top on the
top I kept going like this if you the
page numbers and you actually had
already fixed it for me ahead of time
but I just figured that out a little bit
ago and get a question on
this I that concludes our um review for
the Fire Department chief are we missing
anything is there anything you want to
tell us Chief do you just have the
capital oh Capital before we go to
Capital anything you missing anything
you want to tell the council uh I cover
it
in the red Power And The Angry power
point oh it's a fir it is it is a
fire good job there all right all right
let's go Capital fire department you
want to highlight U our
revenues that we already did that
already did did so we'll just go through
your Capital um
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items cardiac
monitors our cardiac monitors have a
10-year life on them
um not saying that they can't be used at
10 years they can but the uh maintenance
fee skyrockets and it makes the cost
prohibited so we're asking for $800,000
to replace our all our monitors and also
with that we're asking for a mechanical
CPR
device
um all the research is coming in that
early CPR early good CPR
increases survival rate for the patient
anywhere is from double to
triple and if ween it the device it's
mechanical you set it up and it's
precise we as as humans we're not
precise right our depth can change our
rate can change when we're moving the
patient you stop CPR and all the
research shows once you start CPR you
don't stop because once you stop it
lowers the circulation rate and you have
to work that much harder to get it back
up there so this device once it's in
place will continue CPR from the time
where we start with that patient to the
time we deliver that patient to the
hospital or or pulses are returned it
is it will really add to the quality of
what we do so that's Incorporated in in
the monitors
$800,000 questions how many
managers
10 I think 10 I can get you that answer
I think
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it's any question so if you can speak to
that is that done in Li of a person
sorry are you saying that's done in Li
of having a person doing doing that will
you still need someone monitoring that
device or is that something you can put
on and then you would know absently that is continuing on those important
well once we yeah not really a set in
for that you apply it you're not going
to go go to the
bathro stop on along the way um it has
to be monitored but it it free up
someone to now that is working and now
maybe I can start an IV maybe I can call
a do or I start with
medications um it
does it's more precise it's more
efficient and it allows someone to do
other important things thank Chief yes
any other question
chief chief thank you for
presentation thank you to your
department keeping us safe appreciate it
thank you
for thank you you
ready want
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challenge is
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on had would
be
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power so we just know
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yeah so that will be paid starting on
page um
19 um right at the bottom of page 18 and
into
19 byebye thank
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you ready go ahead give us an overview
and then we'll pass quick overview
police count a3120 through a
3123 also a 3320 and a
3510 the police department increased by
approximately
3.25% uh there's the PBA Union
negotiated uh contract uh has been
negotiated be effect stting
2025 um one key aspect of that the
retirement they had got 34e and that's
contributing to about 1.2 million
increase are
retired
okay chief hand it over to who is taking
the
lead on
the okay so we'll just go to public um
police Administration and just on page
bottom of 80 into 90 and we'll just roll
with it any question ask the Chiefs you
want a brief overview of the department
now or later or not at
all yeah we can can want to do that yeah
we ask yeah you can do that overall you
know well we're talking that' be perfect
yes yeah so that's be good it in here
yeah each of the each of the um police
Administration you just talk what is
happening and then we'll address any
um H items that needs to be address so is the question do you want to give
us overview or not is it a question yeah it will be an overview for each of
the sections as we're going through it
he I was just going to give you some
statistic that I can add because we kind
of have done that with every other
department right I kind of started with
an overview of every
other I can do it I can do it that way
let's do it that's three minutes wasted
go ahead if you want F yeah go so so
we're going to start off with the
administration yes yeah right so in the
administration this year we are
requesting that we uh remove a
ips3 um it's been vacant for two or 3
years and with that we're requesting one
of our threes go to a four take over
some other duties um so other than that
everything else stays the same in the uh
police Administration so we went from 22
and2 bodies down to 21 and2 bodies is
the quest and all those raises are the
1.75% which covers the 3 and half%
throughout the year raise that's so what
is the fs3 go to uh one ips3 disappears
and one ips3 goes to an
ips4 okay so one you just Lo getting rid
of the position yes ma'am okay and in
that we in that line we also uh reduced
our police chaplain line down to 2500
which is what it originally was for our
police chaplain this siphon that we gave
to the volunteers um that went away cuz
that was
arpa that was arpa and it was the fire
department went up 20% you guys went
down a lot in the chap line yeah so he
still funding it
for father car fire department he cost
more I know he's got a
yeah so the person is I mean I guess you
haven't told him yet that I mean I some
like wondering how how you do that like
you went from so so the one chapl that's
going to get to 2500 already received
2500 the other was for other chapain
that we had we had another group of them
we receiving um I think it was must have
been uh maybe less than a thousand a
year okay and then we have uh let them
know that we were not going to be
continue again so less people to pray
yes well we're still maintaining the
program there's not as sment
Sor good job all right well
I'll you you want to continue on all the
way to the end of our Administration and
then we'll open for any
questions okay next p page
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20 next
thing
203 oh yeah one yes uh so 203 the public
safety equipment
software that's the big number um that
is our axon software so when the origin
was brought to the
council would be about two to three
years worth of payments um spend about
three and a half years that we've been
able to do out of our budget and rant
work and this year we're requesting
265 the total balance every year is
488,000 so next year um that a little
closer to 488,000 where we have a little
bit of remaining grant funds um that we
have stashed away that we can cover off
the rest of that don't be saying that to
the council stashed away it it is sit
away for the to cover the remainder of
the 488 but then next in 202 we will
need the full full 400 488,000 in
2026
and can we
Outreach we would like to have more in
that line like department is
receiving I was going to ask that
question as why 5,000 on this line I
would like to see that line even
discussing this I would like to see the
line go back to match with the fire
department we only lower it to to to be
the request to try to turn the
bud 20,000 nothing6 $160 million bud so
we I would I think publicly recommend
this fa that we need to match today
because they're doing a lot of work in
the community and to help sponsor local
um events within our community to spread
awareness and to the alre that we talked
about during our police reform that so
Bridge a gap and the reason why the
money was allocated was one of the the
was a main reason and the rest of the
lines are they're the same or we trimmed
from last year that's down the line we
recognize as a tough year we looked to
see what we were spending and what we
didn't need to spend um so we chopped
them down a little bit not much but
there was a few lines were 5,000
20,000 um
2,000 so just to be just to be clear
that so it's 402b it's that because you
didn't spend that much money that no we
spend we were when we were going through
the budget we had a we were requested
that we chop some of our money and that
was El who
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child I definitely would support I mean
that was that was the only that was the
only question I had for the whole police
budget years Outreach the impact and the
success stories so we want to continue
that with the partnership with the th
Department
and to provide a resource that is needed
yeah and
yeah for
it I'm going to make sure we're all
together
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on it's it's in your budget but it's a
zero out line and I understand that you
already have the training though um for2
402c the anti-racism training I see
there's no money there but my I was told
that you had that training by some by
that Grom yes underr underground yes we
did have it um everyone in the
department was trained and that was a
one
time2 in 2024 sorry we were training in
2024 it was funds that uh you dve Us in
2023 that we rolled over in 2024 so
there I think there might actually be
the last one just happened um last one
or two months ago so so the training is
finished training finished so there's no future
um currently there's no future um
training go ahead please uh line
uh
404c County dispatch so I mean is each
County um uh assessed on how many calls
come in just
one that's the fire department and the
police department that's everyone um
this year it went up 2% % from last year
um typically it's been going up roughly
2% well they have to be paying adj at
the end of the year too depend number oh
is it so that's that's like the base
figure 2% increase and then it gets
adjusted at the end and sorry to say the
last couple years is more I believe
we're like
50 I think we 50% of the budget over
there um I can look that up if you need
it but no I wonder if that was how we we
were yes we're roughly
50% of the
whole thank you a couple years ago we
had talked about priority calls and to
reduce the number of calls topat and
take that Poli that is that still viable
we've been doing that yeah we've been
doing that we have we have a
call what we call call screen call
screener now that so we will take
somebody that's maybe injured on duty um
and utilize them to do be a call
screener so any pending call that's
sitting there we call they hand over the
phone okay so they may reducing call of
service that way and the Drone is the
next gate of that is to to start
utilizing then
we we'll say it now we've been doing it
for the last month we've been doing a
pilot of the Drone use on top of Sumit
Towers we've already started clearing
out some calls so police officers don't
have to go there so we won't get our
full equipment that we purchased until
the end of the year so we're using our
old equipment and we're also limited by
uh line of sight you have that a person
watching the air the the aircraft once
we get our radar solution um which we
can talk about in the
capital and the FAA allows us to we'll
be able to go beyond visual line of
sight and be able to fly that drone
basically wherever we need it to go a
ously from the police
and that leading to
um Corporation Council so um in terms of
we did have a discussion in terms of
legislation for the
Drone is there any movement on that are
we still in the words it's in the works
um we have been looking at it um in the
office as well as policy so uh we can
update you at the next committee meeting
yes and the reason why I asked because I
want to make sure that you know protect
the police department from anything
liability out there because it's a new
technology out there make sure you have
the protection that we need to act on
doing constantly to act doing anything
to change the legislation we need to do
that as you roll this out we we have
this there as you know protecting the
police department Miss is working
on yeah I don't know if it's going to be
legislation or policy
review I thought we stuff that we want
to just make sure that that we what Mr
o'ri said we could make sure that we
were within we weren't violating
anybody's rights or a privacy when we
were that's what he said he was going to
be looking at right with the drones
because I understand it's not your
intention but yeah we'll have in our
policy that the drum camera stays up
until it reaches its location before it
comes down so if it's flying over
somebody's yard that where they have an
expectation of privacy it will not be
recording
you U go please it's on page 19 line
a3120 1114 un vacation so it seems to be
up and then down and up and then down so
next year should we anticipate an upe or
can we just explain why it's that's
retirement re re we look at our senior
list when people can retire and then we
kind of have a feel out who's going to
retire um some people are very vocal and
let us s they leaving other people kind
of hide it to last minute but um the in
that was ASB currently there's nobody I
think there's only two of the people are
eligible for retirement and they told us
they're not going to
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retire have time on
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yet and actually the people later on
going back and further the ISB there's
going to be the three they're leaving
and we did a mock what the buy out would
be already so we could see what it was
and if we could
accurately that thanks any other
question go ahead please um on page 20
though um back to 20 on the inservice
training
31246 um it's down by like
25,000 um is that going to be enough
or So currently we don't have any
planned large scale um in service
training sorry so we do have some um and
we actually have
one that we do every year that's a uh a
countywide joint one and we uh just
submitted the request yesterday to be
able to use we have $16,000 in Grant
fund for training and we requested that
we use this for that training so that
would kind of make up for part of it
gotcha
it's security has to approve it because
it's not third see but uh we have to
submit it I think it's 3 or four months
in advance and the training would be in
April so
we we feel need the guidelines that they
require us to okay thank
you any other question go ahead please
um so on a31 2465 maintenance contracts
what what maintenance contracts that c
yes list of
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here so r is we have a clear which is
investigative software our Northeast is
which is our in building phone system
celebrate uh another detective software
called Casper uh Baron which is our
radio maintenance Lexa PA is our policy
maintenance Ricky fingerprint service
polium our Cad and ours vendor I'm sorry
it's our um the RMS
vender uh portion of our
e software um our Adobe guarding
Alliance Cliffs are internal
cameras our Beast software which the
evidence Tex use Verizon IBM Harris cor
Higher Ground um a minor portion of Aon
is coming out of there and potentially
The Brak drones in the future as well
need be once the uh gr RS
out and have question it's hidden in the
fold but the public uh public half of
the commission of Public Safety with
then your administrative budget as well
the other half is in the fire yes ma'am
yes 50% on ours
% he's on 18 AG 18 AG 18
yes there was a a 3%
ra any other question on page
20 I mve to page 21 and that will be
police F service be so on the top there
the it looks like we have an exra
Lieutenant but it's not we just moved
that from ISB so you'll see the ISB went
down lieutenant and we just moved it
here the money is the same just for um
operational need we moved it from one
spot to another spot other than that the
numbers um are not
changing same question to anony the arpa
allocation for step one step two are
these fully funded by arpa
no if not can you please uh May separate
that get separate them and by tomorrow
night we'll have all new budgets for you
thank thank you sry go ahead that's the
T one special police officer we're
adding $110,000 of the ones that work
over here in City Hall they just been
covering more meetings and doing
different things so we just asked for
there's no rate increase the same amount
of officers just to cover more events
that they're working here the overtime
we're requesting slight more than what
Grant to us this
year
and the holiday P everything else
go overtime has increased due to the
fact of the r
that the raise is
1.75% onever so takes and Fates June 1st
it's 3 and a half% starting June 1st or
July 1st July 1 July 1 so the second
half at a312 2112 yes I just want to
note that UMR year to date that Police
Department a
98.2% there's 112,000 I as of today that
will definitely go work
between CHR Christmas Peri will be 30
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something, this
AA
4122 page 21 at the bottom right at the
bottom oh okay
overtime
yes any questions on
page you just want to complete complete
the next page
ask going down to uh the Poli
investigation line no no no just
p and then we'll ask question any
additional question move into police
investigation over time say the same the
temp siphon that's the fire department
um that's their team their medic work
with our SWOT team so they they create
the budget we just put half in ours and
half in others that's their request okay
open for question on police field
service
be
no any additional
questions so if the county is now
running the parade then um
why are
we why you why aren't they paying you
for that they do I believe they never
did and then this year they they they
gave us I think $30,000 to cover summer
night and and the parade um it's not
even a fraction what
the that's better than nothing they were
for a while that's nothing they came out
our
budgeters
yeah yeah when it was ours but it's
theirs now and we need every we
compensate everybody else we need to be
able to get some of that compensation
back so I think I don't know who's who
start that conversation
but are are we ready start that
conversation I think it would have to be
it wouldn't be I I remember this from a
few years back right I mean it's not
these guys it would be um I'm not asking
no I I'm
not it would have to it would have to be
a collabor collaboration between us and
the mayor to kind of you know talk to
the county and try to see if we can get
some
additional yeah in terms of that yeah
330,000
uh yeah is something that we can we can
address additional Revenue it's a good year to probably address it with
it's upon all of us to get involved and
to bring more Revenue okay let's let's
do it while they still have their arpa
funding as well no I'm not kidding
though I know it sounds funny but I mean
they all right Let's uh let's move on
anyway go ahead please so there are many
events in the city where the police
right you guys are out there and um the the uh whoever holding the events
aren't paying for any type of police at
their events I mean there
AR what do you think you spend on
different events throughout the city um
where does that come
right you get paid for some of ston
reimburses us the Stockon we do get paid
for that okay but we um that goes in our
Revenue line nice but we for the uh
Christmas the Christmas parade the
holiday parade and the summer night
that's this year there was money given
back yeah
30 we
spend that would be good to know how
much spent how much you would reimburse
you have
well it's not only just the police
department bar
Department oh yeah departments that
possibly reimb par parks department for
events in the park all the events in the
park 2023 we spent
33,8 56 on summer night that was last
year this this year I can I can get all
those numbers we I have them I just
don't want to take that all your time
actually the 20 2024 summer night was
28134 2023 holiday parade was
30,500 parade did you the parade the
parade uh the parade last year was
30,500 and the summer night this year
was
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2813 and the Stockon is 11,200 but they
reimbursed they reur you in
full they reimbursed you in full I
believe they reur Us in full yes 11,24
.97 in
2023 what about events over in the park
like music mement I mean those things
are all I mean there's a couple of
officers on duty are they private or
they pay them
yeah so just to be clear then we people
can hire your guys even though they get
to wear the uniform but they're hired
they hire them separately
like we essentially they get to wear
their uniform but they're really not on
the clock with you I don't they have the the polo shirts with the
um the police they're definitely
identified as police officers but to
your point yes um they can wear uniforms
and get paid privately okay thank
you but not not at all events specific
has to be specific events they have to
be approved by me okay which ones what
they're allowed and typically won't
allow everything can't work in a bar
give me
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a that's why I asked go ahead please I
say would even help like future councils
at least for me is having a breakdown of
what that overtime encompasses CU if it
is like event overtime I think that's a
distinction that is
valid and you get reimbursed for Val
right that's and before we have the
conversation but not to say we do that
now but I think it's at least worth
having a conversation if you would like
at one time Chach person I can uh come
in and speak to you about we have like
30 or 40 different or man codes and it
breaks it down some of this
investigations like I can tell you one
investigation last year cost like
$50,000 so I can break it down as far as
what they are sometimes sometimes it's
so close so tight I can't we can't but
you can get a really good picture of
what it looks like if we I appr thank
you I think especially the overtime when
it's events and if we're if it's coming
out of like Christmas
the summer night and you know it's
coming out of our budget and it's an
event
yes it it's gets real complicated as far
as you can get into the weeds with this
like Patrol over time could have like
just as an example for our give Grant
has $35,000 worth of Patrol over time
which comes out of that 2.4 million and
then it's part of the full Grant give
Grant Revenue salaries and everything
but it also includes the
$35,000 that's part of the revenue but
we spend it out of here and then we
spend another $35,000 investigation over
time on the give Grant that's reimbursed
so a lot of Grants well not a lot but
many grants reimburse over
time it's very hard for us to be able to
we can give you a breakdown of what
where they're
exp all right any other question on fuel
service see none we move to uh bot I
kind of did have a question but it's
probably more about Revenue because you
talked about grants so that just
triggers um so are all the grants that
you receed shown up on Revenue Lines
within our revenue is every single grant
that you receive to do everything that's
in your budget are they shown no revenue
on I know because I know you apply for a
lot of Grants yes I believe um unless
it's a onetime thing that we're not used
to getting that I believe those are all
in our um budg line
some grants are on a specific Grant Line
like an where it's not in it's not not
charged here it's charged to a grant
budget not charged
to our give Grant is on there um I would
think that like the one that's not on
here we recently got last year was uh
$75,000 for the basically the SWAT te
that one was not on we getting it that
was a a surprise to us the one that I
know that lieuten Wiki was here the
other night he came here for the traffic
safety Grant
that's
um vest Pro vest the not
on here's a cop
gr yeah the cop Sprint that's that one's
on there the actually our equipment like
we got one for gym equipment that one
wasn't on there that was and then the
other one that's not on there is
um we received one for grants for our uh
a new firearm upgrade last year firearm
fer stuff like that it was just given us
from DCJS that's not
theology
technology so my concern is that there's
grants that that aren't showing up
however it's showing up in the cost line
so no no they were given pay codes so
separ separate from so we we have the
funds we get um from from M far team we
get a code and that doesn't show up on
the regular budget it shows up separ it
shows it's a grant grode you like so we
won't see the V on here because separate
Grant those are separate grants that are
is not in there you don't see the
revenue because send a gr fund Grant
fund yeah gotcha and my other question
is about the um I forgot what you call
it when you take people's money what you
call forfeiture asset forfeiture yes um
and so I know that it can only be spent
on specific things so does any of the uh
asset forfeiture at all get spent we
have not spent any since at least two
years or so
um and I can look to see what we have in
there I know that it it flow on want we
have $34,000 in the other one I think
there is um over 100,000 but I'm not I'm
not sure that was from this
year's you're not getting as regular as
you used to be we don't get and of stop
typ program some of the money we just
got was from 2013 so it was it takes
quite a while for it to clear it out and
but if we have that asset fores is
there's nothing in our budget that we
can spend something some of it on I I
know it's specific but there's
absolutely nothing I know in the past we support like
$440,000 a year out of it but we have't
done that quite a while so I can work
with the chief commissioner on that I
don't know enough about what we can and
can't spend on I know we I'm not sure
there's a l if you can't plan from what
some in the budget but I don't I just
don't understand I don't know if that
would be spending or if we're allowed to
use that for you might be able to use it
for certain investigations maybe now you
can't use it for invations it's like
purchasing of you know Police Supplies
and stuff and you can buy equipment
things so so that makes sense to me that
would be it if there's if there's things
that we can use it for this if you have
100,000 I guess I
think I think I don't know I'll top my
head said Che he said he would check
into it let's please we got we got to
finish this off so um if if you could
look at that if there's something that
you know if you have that money there it
can be spent and I know it's maybe a
smaller amount but we're we we got to
cover every base we can so can you get
that to the council at some point in
time no that's what I was just saying he
said he would check into it any any
other
questions on on F service for that no if
not I'm not familiar with What U Miss
pfield was what is that money it comes
from the se's assets so um cases that
involved sometimes drugs or just cases
that somebody has money you're not
supposed to have and then it goes
through the whole court and sometimes
the Court gives some of it back and
usually you know the cases we get some
so our guys that work on task forces
they'll say you get you know 8% of
whatever the for your amount is and then
it takes you know we had from 2013 so it
took 11 years for us to get the money
eventually the de just got it the only the only thing I'm going to say
about that is that our seed assets we
typically have them part of our budget
planning process so where we might be
saving for piece of equipment that we
didn't put in for a capital request
because we were saving for so okay so
that so when you identify how much you
have then you might want to just go back
and see if you have anything that
is equipment
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toe yes perfect um next if no further
question we'll move into police
investigation the bottom of page
22 that shows the subraction of the
lieutenant subtraction because
Lieutenant to the uh
investig investigator inv to
the
and it's still 52 keep going all the way to page 233
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investigation
question okay oh go ahead please so do
crime analysts do you share them with
the county is this yours is the person
belong to you and the police department
these are ours so we have three crime so
we have the director and we have two
others those there are one of them is
stationed in Albany at the AL C um the
AL the AL crime analysis centers okay um
but she works for the city and she only
does work for us even though she's over
there no she can do work for other
agencies as well while she's there she
can she does primarily ours but there's
a team of I'm not sure how many there
are six or eight over there that will
work on something for conected even if
she's needed she'll work on something
for another agency as well Shar service
yeah shared services is also shared
costs uh no so we pay for just her
everyone else pays for their own whoever
supplies one and then the um CER has
their own budget as well for several
people I think they're actually in Aly
police departments police station so I
that they I think they have two officers
or two analysts assigned to it and I
don't know how many po there are but you
know there's a new facility over there
we just pay her
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salary we pay her Sal but she has the
office in allice Yes and she'll come
back here as well youit of that
intelligence yeah that's I was going to
say prob because they did that while ago
is it similar to like the comp crime
task force or very Sim similar yeah so
perhaps it's cases where you know it
goes beyond SKC it might be like they're
working as a team to look at I I don't
know I mean other words it might be
something where somebody from Troy and
somebody from yeah so and somebody from
maybe it's all like working together on
this crime I mean they do that as well
as um I know like we have our we have
certain reports that she works on our
report 14 or she's there and she has
access to other technologies that we
don't have um and she's learned a lot
while she's over there too actually cuz
she's there's more people more
techniques more technology that she's
able to get for but we are under no we
no contract we're not set there so if
the chief ever felt that she'd be more
beneficial to be just in house we can
pull her back tomorrow and there's no no
agreement in place we're free to utilize
their services without giving them an
asset um but the we're the second
highest utilization behind all the
police department there um so I just
felt it was right to give them the extra
body and she's dedicated to us and they
also have a dedicated supervisor for us
so they they do a lot of work for us our
investigators save a lot of time doing
workups on people because they'll just
send them over there they'll do it I
they go and hit the streets they have to
do
so one one thing I want to not on page
22 you look at police officer
investigator went 35 to 36 that was
because last year we made a mistake the
state gave us a grant for a non-fatal
shooting investigator that was fully
funded and the grant came right around
budget time and we did not increase it
last year but we got the revenues last
year so this year we just corrected
it so the police
officer yes 35 to 36 I see not it's like
the third thing the one body that you
third thing up from the bottom of the
sheet okay you went up 36 okay any other
question for app Sal
section we'll go into
3123 Auto
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compensation so the again we requesting
an increase on the overtime line from
93,000 to a million um partially from
the raise that they'll be receiving
salary line we able to decrease the on
sick leave we did increase the onuse
vacation those are numbers that we
forecasted out that are in planned for
the at least the three retirement that I
know that are
coming the standby phase uh the on call
detectives great that's standing same
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any question on
this police investigation seeing none I
think I conclude um the police
department review we have two other
section the parking and animal control
and that will be on page
26
parking so for the parking uh we're
looking for the same amount of Staffing
the rates went down a little bit just
because of uh new ties um we're looking
to hire actually right now we have two
open vacancies and the parking meter
attendance those and we have uh one and
the inut processing specialist two and
that is why the rate went down the same
number just because they would be
starting their new Step person retired
previously and now the rates is a little
lower because they' be starting at a
lower
St and the rest
is since we under parking I'm going to
question go ahead please so um under the
administrative salar there's no increase
for the Civil supervisor traffic
Services I think that may be an overate
I think
they're
CA so it's coming thank you well since
we are parking and we're talking about
um fees increase at
asq yeah we didn't go over the we go
over the re no there there's something
special I want to talk about you're
talking about the past few finds that
the police department is is working with
um
agencies so kind of lock for lock of
work go off to these um people who are
not paying the CLS I will give a very quick you can just brief us and um
if you have anything to share you can
share with us a long time ago uh in
2020 the city was with a company called
comp plus they switched over to
passport in the meantime plus was also
out by passport so from 2020 until I
believe it was mid
2021 uh commissioner brought to our
attention that we were receiving what we
call delinquent funds which is a budget
line it's a separate Revenue line so we
started looking into it it took way
longer than it should have um between
the different companies the Law
Department we finally got a contract
signed with a collection agency of
December of
2022 and what they do is they letters
EXC and they add fees on top of the city
fees so we're not paying them any money
when somebody pays a delinquent ticket
which it delinquent by code has to be
over 6 months past when the ticket was
originally due that's in the section of
Fe section that we're currently working
on with the uh uh Council and that uh by
the time we were able to get a ticket
approved and get it set through all the
Motions long story short is finally
about a month ago they the letter
started going out so we received
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$54,000 of that money so far um now that
letter that went out is an incorrect
letter because they never they never
included the extra 25% fee on there so
that's not going to be our problem
that's going to be their problem that's
going to be their that's their problem
that we're working on um but there is um
s in the last roughly 6 months or sorry
six weeks I think is when the letters
went out 10 the week you looked it up
today of tickets that were 6 months and
older that were sent a collections
letter is 54,000 revenue for that
overall
so anything that is older than roughly 3
and 1/2 years has already gone to
collections they already tried to
collect that money in anything less than
3 years it's just starting to go up now
the letters went out want to know um we
be checked in that the one collection
agency or passport sent to Capital
recovery they had said that they just
received 10,000 files so there's files
lots of letters going out all over the
place and hopefully this revenue is
going to pick up but just to give you a
little summary what we have in Revenue
that is 10 years old and older so the
really old money we have $2.2 million go
that's money that's over 10 years old
see um the money that's 30 days old is
60,000 31 to 60 days is
36,000 91 to 80 is
41 181 to one year is
193,000 one year old and older is
358,000 2 years old and older 28,000 so
I can provide this to can he can share
it
to all of us the total yeah so we're not
going to get anything L you know from
older than 3 years from now so old than
three years that's already been tried to
collect for several years Capital
recovery was doing that we may get lucky
and somebody may decide to pay when they
get this but that's something that's
already been tried to collect and it's
not
there you have you have to come in you
and the others who work in your team to
kind of go after it it weren't going
after it and see where we we are because
we're not losing anything we're not
paying the collection agency to do this
they going to get um the 25% mark up on
whatever they collect so it's a good
effort $4.7
million we're definitely hoping to get L
of that the other op the other thing
that I know we SP quickly is we do what
we call scotf FL details so if you owe
um I believe it's now it's more $200 and
I'm sorry maybe $300 now your list gets
put into our lprs and our cars and it
goes around and beeps and officers will
either pull a car over or if it's parked
on the side of the road early hours or
at night in the morning they do these
details they to the car you can't get it
back until you
payow there's just I only pull two
months worth of data um CU that's what
get quickly before I came over today and
some in one detail we spent $1,524 of
Officer I'm that's two different details
an officer's Personnel cost and we were
able to retrieve 2,150
of outstanding parking fees wow another
time we were able to take in spent 1314
and we took in
14,550 and these details are what we're
doing we're doing a couple of these a
month and that's why our parking fee
revenue is going up right now I believe
we've taken in we think we 7,000 shy or
540,000 that we had forecasted for 2024
so we're going to blow that um a
proportion for what we expected to take
in for Revenue we're going to be than
that and part of it is this these
details that we're running to go after
to the Scout fls so um because in terms
of all
the so that um make the fines that are
in our Revenue budget I believe I I
might have um checked in on this already
but I just want to verify that these
various
fines uh that are police related in our
Revenue budget yes do
not in include yet the increases that um
it does I do believe they they do
include that oh they do okay that makes
more sense to me I I for some reason I I thought I had asked um and they
weren't included in there they said yes
the answer on your said yes it was the
reason why we pushed it to kind of call
for the public hearing and to kind of
allow the department to incorporated
into the parture because it is something
that we address and I don't think um
we're going to hold that we're moving
forward yeah no I I mean includ bu putot
enforcement and um Police Department
okay but we haven't yet totally voted on
this yet right no on that part because
there's public
hearing next Monday okay and once we do
that it will it will take effect January
1st 225 budet okay all right any other
question on parking I go ahead please go
ahead um so you said the ones that were
two years the 2.2 million Mr fiz We're
Never Getting that but saying
that 10 years I mean you know people
could be anywhere well true um but they
could be still here somewhere in the
Europe so is it still like if you
there's a you know this thing where if
you own something and you go to register
your car or something like that it pops
up you can't register your vehicle so
none of this came up on that no so there are a few of them um that so every
once in a while we do get letters from
the DMV that they have to come in there
to take in order to do that um usually
it's the people who have their cars
towed and they're they have a plate
still on the car and then they can't
register the new car because of the
insurance laps and things like that so
then they will sometimes people come
into US say they lost their plates
because the cars were towed then we have
to get a little a little bit of a
disagreement with them because we can't
give a lost or stone plate because it's
not lost or stone it's just we have your
car you have to pay us the the fines
that that you're outstanding but as far
as that goes I don't know what the DMV's
requirement is but I do know that um
randomly we do get letters from them
from people coming in that say they have
to pay their bills and register their
cars but I don't know what the
requirements for that are there's
obviously some requirement I mean do we
need deeper into that so that people
can't go register their car if they have
this out standing debt to the city yes I
don't like some if if you said 200 or
300
so there's people so in order for your
car to get to it's $300 right now it's
set um for $300 $300 because it's I
believe we worked with the last
Corporation Council on that number just
because it was we can we can hold it for
anything for whether it's one ticket at
week but because the cost of the toe
they're going to pay is like $230 I
think to get the car towed so we wanted
to make it you know not an unreasonable
number so we were towing a car for $70
outstanding then you had to pay $235 to
get your car back that's little if you
had $300 you have either one I guess
You' say major ticket that's already
doubled or you have several little
tickets and that's usually what it is is
multiple little tickets and they've been
contacted several times so it's a
little um easier to swallow I guess for
your car if knowing that you have
multiple tickets that
you the reason why you to say Vehicles
over 10 years old we're not going to get
it most of these vehicles have are off
the road uh they've been crushed uh you
know mostly are gone or plates that you
know people just you know got new plates
got rid of the old ones stuff like that
that's that's what we talk that's what
we were told yeah but cars can be gone
they're tied to you you people know that
you own the car it's not like you get
rid of a car and nobody knew that you
were the ownership that's I'm saying
that's what people just won't pay
because they don't have the car you
there's nothing you can do CU you're not
registered anymore maybe stoping from
registering the Cent car oh I don't you
do that go ahead please so I know me and me
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and late I know blame me for that we are
we had the email exchange that was going
on where you were replying some
responses based on the ticket
spreadsheet that you provided and thank
you for those follows which I really
appreciate it I do think if we're
starting to collect some some of these
outstanding tickets there is an
requirement from our city to be
responsive and not saying that you're
not I think your response is proved
otherwise I just wanting to reiterate
the importance of us being respondent to
putting in place other measures where if
there are tickets being expended that do
not need to be or are the result of like
unclear signage or we have an obligation
to work with the community also because
I think as we start to have these fines
go out if we're not working or being
responsive in how our signs are
advertised or what what what are they
illustrating I think it can send a very
unclear message we're just trying to do
another money grab and I don't think
that's the intent it is how do we
enforce our laws and again if signs are
not effective how do we update those
signs that we're working with the
community I don't disagree with any of
that I know that right now with the
signs if there's a a sign issue or um
going through core process that tiet
gets it's taken out that assign was put
on the list and it was after to the
assign Department to to work on updating
it and our officers and the parking
officers won't actually ticket anybody
that but anything that we can do as far
as
um that's the fire Hydra thing again I
don't know how expensive that would be
to to actually do something like that
but we be able to proba B before and
after um if you want want to try a
certain area but if there's any thing
that we can do to assist in in bringing
awareness to that we're definitely going
to help absolutely I think Brian Kon was
mentioning that they working with u the
police department in terms of addressing
the signs yes so you guys provided uh
funding many years ago for science a
finally get get here for a few months
now with uh team and the bureau to
get I have to command you and your
aggressive approach approach to towards
these house past
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you it's a good thing and you and your
team are doing everybody including Chief
it's something that we have to go after
if it's 30,000 40 50,000 100,000 is
something coming in as a revenue to the
department and over the years people are
going to get a wing of hits and they
have to pay
any other questions if not on parking
we'll move to annal control page
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34 and that will conclude our
um the big change here with that as um
we are requesting to decrease one and
add a control supervisor position I see
there's a a significant raise there uh
we would like to elevate the one inol
one of the two that we have currently in
their supervisor role doing an
absolutely amazing job
and the this is a she's acting at a
supervisor currently she's already aison
she multiple different places um get
nothing but great feedback all the time
we want to try to retain her
employee increasing her salary
would that
and I am going to ask that we are also
looking to increase the fee here so M
Michael you want to talk on
this the revenue you mean the revenue
part on this increase the fees on the
dog licenses yes this this has nothing
to do with this no this is separate yes oh
yes so just so you have two Dev Control
Officers and you just want to give one a
raise and and call them the supervisor
yes ma'am thank
you any question on this
section are we missing anything you want
to give us any U no just before we go
Capital anything that we need to address
for the
council any new new things that
happening in the police department
anything the
pipel um not really I mean nothing the
only thing new I probably have to report
is New York State Police are finally up
staff so they're going to start doing
blue gr controls next Thursday so who do
they doing the New York State Police are
going to start helping us control the
streets again they're finally up to full
Staffing so we'll start seeing Troopers
working with our offices again start
Thursday so that's really thing to
report and chief T the Staffing can you
address the Staffing I know that you are
problem most capacity or capacity yeah
we were at full Staffing uh we have four that are actually going to be out
of field training soon four that'll be
done within a month eight in the Academy
of those eight seven of them are in our
new Apprentice
program we'll be and we could probably
actually uh it'll be coming before the
end of the year but we're going to get
probably I think $3500 in revenue for
those seven officers through this
practice
program great email just came out today
so it's good it's a good program so it's
helping us
there what the retirement in the next
year are there plans any I know three um
right after New Year so one's talking
January and one's talking February one's
talking March so I know I have
three Senor office anything
else no crimes up
88.1% 12.3% compared to the 5year
average that's the bad news the good
well it's not bad news but it's not
great um our shootings um we we've done
such a great job with our give uh Grant
um and our non-fatal shootings that I
was invited to present at this uh
International Chiefs of police
conference coming up in two weeks in
Buffalo Boston or Boston not bu
definitely not Buffalo um so the state's
going to be presenting and that and I
I'll be representing uh a local police
department with them doing that our
shots fired are down 42% our shooting
incidents are down 38% our shooting
victims are down 33% and that number 33%
is big but as of right now it's only 10
people this year you know if we can keep
it that low the rest of the year we'd
like to but um the Outreach Hub our
partnership with the county they've
reached over 120 individuals year to
date keeps getting stronger every year
they'll they they'll be presenting at
the party conference uh next year early
next year the work that they've been
doing there so you know a lot of good
work being done by our officers rsro
program school resource officers
certainly paid dividends early this year
with the incidents that they had having
that structure in place I believe kept
it controlled they're also very
beneficial this summer protecting our new pool um when things started
going a little crazy there we had our
officers there working every day and I
think get helped helped having their
presence there they do everybody so uh I
think it was a good summer overall so
worked out
well go ahead please so um so you said
overall Prime was up but but I know that
so you use that Global term but in terms
of different part you know different
part categor part one part two and all
that stuff and then then there's this
thing where govern article today that
said that our SHO shoting are down 42%
based on state
data so can you just tell us where since
there's a rise where is the where is
that riseing crime the rise I mentioned
is part one crime so we're talking the
assaults the robberies the um the laries
burglaries that that's what went up but
she is right that shootings are down and
that's why our shots fired are down
actually 42% shooting incidents are down
38% shooting victims down 33% because
we've been focusing so much on guns and
shootings um we've been putting a lot of
effort into that Statewide we have
through this initiative so that we've
been receiving positives from as a
result of that and I think are the two
highest increases burglaries and arenes
were the two highest increases I that
include them stealing my Amazon package
that would be that would be one
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iort that that will be another
initiative that we will be working on
um uh is a organized retail crime we're
working with the state police on that
but we're also going to be doing
something ourselves working on that a
lot of people a lot of individuals are
out there stealing from our businesses
and selling them to our other businesses
oh which are hugely high crime areas so
we'll be focusing on that it
disappointed when they myage I think but
I just wanted to to add the comment you
said the just realized what you said I'm
sorry about the SRO I just want to add
to that I know that you said that it's
because the offers of the school but I
have I have to tell you I was there for
the lockdown and the safety team is a
great part of what happens because
there's more safety team members than
there areos they definitely work
together but part of that is that safety
team they have in place which are
civilians who are from the community
that people know Etc and so on because
when I was when I was when I was in the
room in lockdown the SRO said they oh
I'm sorry they're called CEOs
yes right had been there earlier but
they' left so all of the management of
what was going on in that cafeteria was
done by the safety team and and um other
members of the administration so I just
wanted to make sure that they work in
conjunction but they play a great role
in
that that can you briefly just talk a
little bit I mean I've been getting more
calls um about
panhandlers um and I know the Hub is you
know really trying
to work on that um but yeah I I mean I
you know I'll just give you one example
my most recent call was um someone who
wanted me to put out legis said I know
we prevent panhandling in the street but
can you put out some legislation to
prevent it on the sidewalk and I was
just like well you know sidewalk Street
I mean they're going to just be in the
air I mean like where are they supposed
to go but I'm but I'm just thinking you
know what what can we for me I feel like
it's like that bigger issue of poverty
and so you know what do we do to support
our organizations that are working on
anti-poverty initiatives but I I just
wanted to because I'm hearing it more
and more so I just wanted to get your
take no doubt that it's a problem it's a
problem it's scates problem in every
Community I saw there C Parks huge yes I
saw yeah the aggressive the aggressive
legislation roer B that passed it also
so it's um you know there certainly a
problem The Hub is is addressing it
although there are uh we were told this
morning at our compat meeting this
morning right been a long day um uh that
uh there's five individuals out there
that are no longer uh interested in any
work from The Hub so if they do
something we will be arresting them so
we're trying not to arrest first but we
will arrest if we have to they're
aggressive and we know there's
aggressive individuals out there it's
just a matter of they move around so we
have to be able to catch them in the app
and doing it which is difficult when
everything else is going on but it's a problem that we we recognize and
we're working on is there anything that
we can be should be doing or and your I
know shoulds a hard word but I mean do
you have advice for us as a council
should we be thinking about any
legislation
or I mean think about it and let us know
but so I know there was a local
municipality that put out language
paraphrasing since was like don't get
money to the homeless and as you can
imagine that language just did not sit
well C MERS of the community absolutely
what I would say is s accting is very
resource Rich so my wife's a social
worker and IID say Mr manini can
probably speak to some of that a lot of
the individuals after conversations with
U City Mission director Mr sosio he's
like there are individuals that are
seeking certain like behaviors that they
aren't willing to accept within their
facilities so in those conversations
that I'm interacting with people I'm
directing them either to the thda house
C Mission and instances they're
disregarding it and that's their
prerogative but essentially each time a
resident gives the money that reinforces
the reason that they stay out there so
it's just an
unfortunate outcome and I was speaking
was a police officer I'm pretty sure I
was speaking to that there's a there's a
particular there's like this high Archy
among the homeless I just learned this
what you are you a president there I was
not but recently heard this this is
hierarchy and there's this couple who um
they frequent Broadway and
state and um and when they're there
nobody else comes because you know
they're but they also turn down any help
because they're making so much money on
the corner well I I mean I've heard a
similar story from one of our officers
who there's an organization that was
giving out tents and and sleeping bags
and so folks weren't wanting to for
example leave Veil park because they
were okay they had a tent and sleeping
bag and as far as they were concerned
you know they were kind of set um
so almost it's like the organization was
kind of
enabling this to continue so I don't
know I I I that was sort of eye opening
for me you know having had a long career
in a nonprofit and that kind of thing
but um I was kind of like you know maybe
we're doing that was too much do you
know what I mean helping um I don't know
but I just don't know what we should do
what we should be
doing Chief you mentioned that that
crime is up % um was that a 12 months
data or 6 months uh 8% um it's up 8
point uh 88.1% part one crime up
8.1% and that is year to date um and and
then the
12.3 I'm sorry 88.1% up compared to this
time last
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year compared to 10 ones last
year October 23 October 24 is that
comparison and then the 12.3 is compared
to a 5year
average uh if I can segue go ahead
please I think it's important to kind of
dispel either misinformation or just
misinterpretations of information so I
know we had a very contingent overtime
discussion in the last budget cycle is
any of that related in your response to
Public Safety or in this increasing
crime in those specific
Parts no I
mean we we haven't changed our operation
based on what happened last year and
uh the the unfortunate thing is that we
have officers that are working very hard
every day and they're getting burn out
so we probably had more openings for
over time that we've had volunteers to
work it um but we recognize the budget
is tight this year and we started
scaling it back and we're starting to
fill the shifts now because we're we're offering out less in anticipation
of a tight year so but um up to this
point it had had an effect on it but we
should see a shift because of the the
Staffing capacity right now so we should
see a shift because that's what you know
we mentioned over the last couple years
that um High offic would help to ease
the baren only over time and fill all
the shifts and I was good de you're
doing that
appreciate Public Safety would not
suffer by your tightening up these
you're not putting it out there I mean
you're still out there time last year we
got nine out of the Academy I think we
left we lost a couple of the
retirements and then we um and then
we're going to be
getting I think we got 99 so I think
we've actually probably netted about 15
officers on the street since this time
last year that's awesome and then we
will again we'll be getting another four
soon another four in a month and then we
have eight in the academy but that won't
be until May next may we see see a
difference with them so that's great and
by then we'll have probably another four
or
five we have three by for sure yeah good
stff good stff good and I'm sure you
have um things in place to address the
part one we do please we do yeah we we
focus on what's what's spiking and right
now assaults and laries are spiking
burglar are spiking it's that time of
the year so we're we're actually looking
at um our assaults as possibly being
over
reported U or somebody will call in say
I was assaulted so that'll be the way
it's categorized and we'll get out there
turns out that they were just slapped in
the face so it was a harass we might be
over so we have to look at that bad it
does like what what constitutes
assault has has to have physical
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injury no hold a question I would you
able to say specifically which um
neighborhood these CRI
yes yeah our hotpots have not changed
that much
so they primarily been the same um
Central stage Street Grandy wine area um
veale neighborhood you
know pockets of M Pleasant most our
house actually M Pleasant got pool for a
while I think Eastern Avenue popped up
but now it's start so once that please
close down any other question if not
we'll move to Capital pleas Department
there are two
items the two uh the vehicles um we
request actually I don't have my most
recent one here you go SUV uh two SUV
for patrol that would be uh the hybrid
and the three hybrid sedans would be for
our detective Division and three hybrid
Vans or um some sort of smaller SUV for
our evidence
technicians and then the Drone radar
it would be uh to increase so we don't
have to have visual observers the chief
mentioned earlier but it would be uh
technology that be put in place so that
the anything that's flying from a drone
to the biggest airplane out there would
be caught on like a on radar it's like
the radar screen that you see um you to
see on the TV shows um you would see
actually where it is in the city and
you'll see a picture of it as well so
it'd be manned and unmanned aircraft to
show up um on it and that would be a
requirement from the FAA in order to get
the get be online site so you do not
need a visual Observer at all so so in
addition to helping us with our drone as
a first responding program it would also
provide uh safety to our community for
people drop flying drones that could be
harmful so especially during special
events we would know if a a drone shows
up um that could possibly harm somebody
so that it's got that add feure to well
any
question go ahead so buy eight more
Vehicles this year how many we buy last
so we didn't buy any at all in sorry so
right now we're trying to buy uh the
capital that you guys provided last year
was for seven
SUVs uh
two DD Vehicles one ASV vehicle and S so
band so last year was I believe it's 11
vehicles that we haven't bought yet that
were in the process of purchasing the
money became available in May and they
were um Avail a few different options
for purchases Leasing and some other
things and it was determined not to go
that way so uh we're working with
Finance now purchasing to work on
getting the vehicles so the 11 from last
year were just buying and then this is
addition eight this is uh eight yes and when we
money come into May after so you have to
wait
until and then once we the two vehicles
the the police vehicles those so right
now we're ordering them in may they come
in or I'm sorry if we order them now
they come in January to February and
then after that then it takes usually
another two to three months to get them
upfitted so it's a
constant struggle down the road I mean
it's these are forecasted out several
years and the vehicles that we're
driving right now will be replaced by
these
vehicles what kind of money do we get
for trading yeah usually we don't trade
them usually it's uh they go to the
scrapyard so I think last year we
scrapped four of them I believe and I
think we got4
or500 sometimes we pass them on
throughout the city L we pass them to
other departments instead of purchasing
vehic sometimes they don't you Au
them yes police yes so we we just had an
auction throughout the summer we
actually cleaned out our Police
Department of like everything we
possibly could our our ASB team I me I
love those they're awesome um I think we
took in like 26 or $27,000 just if it
wasn't bolted down we didn't need it it
went the
auction there was no cars there's cars waiting to go now I
believe is less this year normal
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oh yeah Capital
request seem to be less than was last
year I believe our total for our two two
numbers our car requested to drop down
and we didn't uh last year we had um
some s or SOS gear and something else
it's actually not and we typically ask
for some some kind of computers for
Capital request but we got the grant
this year PA form so
we are there any other question
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if not thank you so
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much
work
um tomorrow our meeting
continue we will meet with department at
streets sow ice Property Management
Facility parks
pools waste collection disposal recycle
water at sewer fund engineer
and capital budget if there's nothing El
ask a motion to recess until tomorrow
5:30 p.m. so second all in favor thank
you good night have a
goodn you
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sorry oh boy she just have to be here
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does she oh she was she was being I
think she was
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represen do we have to do anything with
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this thank you everybody
have a good
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night what
left it's going to be pajamas for
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me we'll have tomorrow thank you put it
in you and put it in a folder it
I excuse me sorry
I
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think come
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