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so hearing discussion regarding general

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parts and pools waste collection

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disposal and recycle water so

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budget we'll start with um engineering

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evening we got Mr whole evening last

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yesterday so we'll go to page um 10 10

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I got to use my old my not all right

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we're first going to work with at Public

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a1140 Public Works admin increased by

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2.44% very marginal increase

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engineering Construction and design

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a441 engineering construction design

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a this also comprise page 12 also 10 11

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any question for Mr w

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just his overview yeah yeah so um you

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just want to give us a highlight what's

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happening in Department anything we need

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to know to

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cap the biggest thing that we're waiting

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on is we just got the list for an

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ips3 um we had an ips3 last year and uh

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for only matter of months it was really

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nice to have the ips4 with the ips3 um

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uh ended up taking an internal promotion

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um which was great for her but then when

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she was promoted we had the vacancy and

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the test came out test came out in March

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we was waiting and we just got the list

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a couple weeks ago so we're working with

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um K and MaryAnn on what the list is

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eligible for and working on that that's

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the big that would be the big get if we

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could actually replace and fill that

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because as a lot of you know a lot of

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the work that we do because of the

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grants and contracts is just paperwork

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so there is a lot of paperwork that goes

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into doing all these projects so having

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that ips3 uh in engineering would be

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great um otherwise everything is pretty

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much status quo we have maintenance

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contracts in here so we pay for the bike

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share and some of the other smaller

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contracts sign rental on 890 things like

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that come out here so that's all status

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um fees for service line that's how I

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pay for engineering consultants for

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smaller projects ms4 work things like

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that so that's why that should remain

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because that's a un necessary thing

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especially now that there's new ms4

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requirements that are pretty stringent

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so and then the only other thing is the

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on my budget it's blue right it's not

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going to be blue it's not blue anymore so that was that

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clear the the position is still there

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it's just the funding is not from from

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the blue corre correct from

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our go ahead please the ips3 um where

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which um does it go under um Public

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so Capital this year um could go from

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top to bottom first one we had is the uh

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small Harbor Docks the large vessel

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docks um we've identified a gap in the

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funding given that the CFA grants that

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we had were essentially preo everything

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from preo has increased in price um and

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the docks are quite large uh compared to

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other things in the area so this is

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uh to make up that Gap um try to make

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sure that maybe the title Anthony one of

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the things I just want to make sure with

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the title for it is that flexible um

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just because if we if we don't use all

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of that 750 I would hate to have have to

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buy another dock or something I know how

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we do something where it's you know

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infrastructure or something that

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change yeah I I just we we an older way

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that we used to haveen is that when we

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used to bond money for streets we would

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were kind of stuck in having that street

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with that money even though we had needs

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in other areas so we're just trying if

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you know this is worst case scenario if

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we you know if it comes in at 500

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$400,000 paid to have a balance sitting

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in a capital code that says docks

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because we don't have docks

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um Street improvements this is a little

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bit higher than normal um but the reason

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that we're doing this is because this is

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I'm hoping to have a flexible fund next

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year we have several very large projects

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happening and I really need some

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flexibility when it comes to financing

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next year we're starting our Craig

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Franklin Street project we're also

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hoping to start our J Street connector

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which is our project connect City Hall

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to m Harbor um specifically the J

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conector Project um we would need bonded

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money to pay for our share of that which

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is to be determined um since it isn't an

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existing Road it's hard to use other

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forms that we typically do because it's

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a brand new street so that's why usually

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2.5 um the tennis courts that we see

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here um this is to not renovate but

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replace um the upper eight tennis courts

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with nine new pre-cast concrete

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pretention concrete tennis courts um we

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have a verbal agreement with the USA

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that if we make this investment of $2

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million they will contribute an

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additional million wow so that is a a

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verbal agreement that we have in place

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with them if we're going to move forward

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with this and then the general facility

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improvements um some of these are are

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smaller but they add up which is we

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really have been talking with the fire

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department about removing all their

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carpet um we no longer want carpet in

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areas like a fire department it's just

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uh traps for bacteria and things like

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that they're coming in and out of the so

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we really want clean uh disinfectable

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surfaces in those areas um the chief uh

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approach me about generators at stations

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3 and four stations 3 and four do not

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have generators and we did replace their

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doors with uh new uh doors and the issue

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with the doors just getting is you might

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see a door that has a chain and the door

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goes up the new style door because they

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go up is a screw and it it takes a

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little while so to manually open that

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door you're literally turning a screw on

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and so they really would like to see

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generators at the stations uh I thought

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that was a good request um PD building

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control upgrades that is literally a

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computer system just to try to get that

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system by we use a seen control Network

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it hasn't been updated I don't think

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1992 um and it's on a computer that I

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can't believe still works the computer

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is very old and we're going to have to

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update that so that we can able to run

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the building systems and then uh lastly

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kind of related to that I'm asking for

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some money to start to design the

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replacement of the HVAC system at the

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police station we're anticipating that

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this could be upwards of $6 million

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project to replace the hbac system in

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the building um right now a part of last

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year's Capital we're looking at

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upgrading the electrical services um so

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if you were to go into the basement we

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have all of our panels uh for the SPD

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electrical the panels are no longer

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serviceable so if anything breaks on one

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panel we try to replace it with pieces

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of another panel and move things around

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because the panels are original to the

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building so this coming year we're

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looking to replace all those panels with

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Mod switch gear so that we have the

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ability to upgrade and then we're going

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to study the replacement of the hdac

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system um when I have those costs you

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know we can talk about it um you know

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I'm sure that the police chief would

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more than welcome a new station but this

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is what we have to decide on is because

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um that station you know it doesn't have

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operable Windows everybody's seeing the

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station is a very interesting uh thedes

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and Schmid design simil more to the

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library um and we just have to we have

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to upgrade and when we do that we have

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to bring things to code and the building

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certain things are not to code right now

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which is uh the boiler the chiller the

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air every single component in that

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building is a one giant room code would

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not allow you do that you can't have

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combustible air and cooling air and

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filtered air all the same room so if we

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bring this up as part of the cost if we

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have to actually split the mechanical

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room and start putting fresh air in

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certain areas for it so that's part of

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that design uh last on here is the

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hearing room we budgeted some money for

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it last year however you know our

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estimates are are higher for that this

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would give us approximately $1.5 million

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to put towards the hearing room which is

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also at the police station um part of

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this will be um funded this project will

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be funded by the

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courts anything that we improve within

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the existing courts footprint the courts

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will pay however this is an expansion uh

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we'll be taking over some holding cells

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and some office space and doing some

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Renovations so that expansion um is not

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paid for once it is expanded and they

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have uh under their lease agreement that

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new square footage that any improvements

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then going forward would be under uh

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their expenses to pay for so I'm I'm

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anticipating that um they're going to

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have it's probably going to be like a 66

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City 33 um State split but I don't have

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those numbers now we're still working I

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just had a meeting today with the chief

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uh and our architect we're going going

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to the sheriff's department and then the

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corrections office just to make sure

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everything has to be signed off before

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we move forward with any kind of

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big question so you go ahead talking

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about the Court's

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lease so if when this renovation happens

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Revisited I imagine right yeah well the

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lease would be Revisited but really the

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only thing that would changed as far as

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I is that we they pay us per square

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footage of use okay um

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yeah so every time they take a little

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bit of space from City Hall over the

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police station we make sure that we

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account for that in our lease because

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they pay us for the maintenance and

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utilities and things like that based off

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of equations that they have so right now

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they aren't leasing the space but once

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they do take it you another approxim

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let's say, 1500 square ft then that,

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1500 ft will go onto the lease and

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they'll start to pay us for the use of

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that space the the other benefit that

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this project will have is what we're

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hoping is right now if you go into the

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police station it feels like it's courts

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um and the police and the courts are

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like this and just because we're all you

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know one big happy family we're all

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getting along with that but really it's

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easier for us easier for the police if

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we separate it so one of the things that

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this would do is uh the police station

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has these four doors when you enter and

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it would split two and two now so that

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if you wanted to go to the police you

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would go to the right if you wanted to

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go to the courts you'd go to the left

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and then you would have uh barrier in

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between so that they're not so mixed up

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and I think that would

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help go ahead please um Mr did we um

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have in the ARA bu did we have money for

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H was it for the SPD no no for here we

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had it for here for here yes and we are

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doing that project that was already a

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work thank you yep we we had some money

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for tennis court we did we had 500 still

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we still do yes any other

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questions goe please on the uh courts

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the uh Mr wall is outline with the oca's

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position is I don't share that uh

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position the

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cells uh they say that they're only

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there for the police department we don't

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need them all the time sometimes they're

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there to hold uh individuals Court

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appearances and that that in fact should

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be treated as Court space which would

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shift the reimbursement

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formula so that's a point of contention

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that's there how much uh

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OCA uh would contribute to this and

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again some of this it's been a long

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standing uh concern of mind the inness

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and inefficiency within the courts

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where we shouldn't be doing any of this

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work they should be running the Night

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Court which would allow utilization of

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space uh double the capacity and keep it

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at a single cost uh they take some

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conduted theory on that that they can't

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work at night uh it's just

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foolish

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so were these numbers I think Mr Wall's

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outline are fair representations that

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they're still subject to

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negotiation and possible litigation

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and on the other thing upgrad to the

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tennis courts we've done music C and

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done the A and and stuff the tennis

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courts kind the swimming pool uh Council

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has on the books a fee structure for

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using the tennis courts you'll basically

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play for free there now uh there's

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utilization by Muna Muna School District

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that we have to tighten up and part of

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this budget is put in place

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a fee

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structure that uh again will be fair and

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we want to you know do these upgrades

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have the resources there and it's no

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different in the golf course you want

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you'll be able to use the golf course

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but you have to pay for

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it go ahead so with that would that

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include a staff person that we would

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have to um that would be in charge of

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the collecting the fees and maybe for

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the pool at the same time I don't know

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that might be a lot for one

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person that's a scenario there might be

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some automated systems or you buy uh

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seasonal pass and something that would

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scan it validate it uh be able to verify

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it any other question from are we

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missing anything Capt everything St

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questions thank you so much ship all

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your team good

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work team

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13 so we'll start on page 13 and just

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flow

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through page 13 and we'll go down in

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order 14 start at 14

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no all right all yours we'll do one um

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time Property Management

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a621 marginal increase of 1.11% I know I don't have a lot to

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explain I think yeah you're

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not other than you know you have you had

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question on 1621 404 what's included in

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that line dat so much lower than

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anticipated um we do to pre removal

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custom control removal abandoned

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vehicles some of the tree um you bit out

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have not been received yet those you

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know those um bill are still out there

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so there is some those that come in

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later in the year um we do more more

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trees but that's what we that is what's

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in that line um Pest Control Pest

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Control now we are um invoicing the

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property for

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reimbursement um because in the past

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that was just a strict strictly a cost

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to the city um and now we are doing um

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reimbursements to the property owner um

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for the treat of whether it's whatever

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are thank

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you so since we here we talk about the

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snap crew up going to places that in

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violation of that cutting grasses like

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that are we um I know we in the past we

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charged a minimum fee are you looking to

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kind of up that charge the actual fee we

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charge the actual time and material so

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the hours of the employee that's there

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and equipment that's on site and then

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anything that is disposed of with a

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weight ticket for the transfer station

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or if it's got to go to the county so um

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we don't have a flat rate we charge

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based on TN okay perect

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thankes go ahead please I'd like to step

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back to the question on uh 82 81621 404

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uh right at 75,000 right now we're about

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almost about 15 145 so you're

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anticipating we're going to get 75 I

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don't know we're all we to 75 our trees

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go up to bid as people call in break

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complaints for trees we use two lines we

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use some of the park money we use some

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of the money depending on where the tree

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is we do have an agreement now with we

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have agre with na grid so some of the

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trees involve power lines or F lines

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they've been taking them down all we do

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is clean up um and the other thing is um

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we do have a a very good um experienced

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senior tree trimmer now so we are doing

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more in heal

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way more than we did before so

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um and he is the gentleman that would

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hopefully will pass this exam think the

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end of this month beginning November 4th

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and our so so we are seeing the savings

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there thank

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you any other question on for the

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section see now will move to a facility

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building and maintenance page 15 facil

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81622 fail is increased by 8.67% and

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that's uh mostly due to the repair

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line I'm sorry the what line repairs oh

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thank

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you that's I just talking to our C

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engineer about he pulled somebody out for Capital do some repairs

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this year but between all the repairs

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between City Hall Bure service police

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supp stations um you know in discussions

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with Chris and how U we feel there's a

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lot of repairs that these facilities and

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200,000 you know $1,000 is is going to

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be need for

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25 now you know our our goal is not just

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to repair stuff but also maintain it

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right so you know we're buying

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purchasing through the that through that

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line

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and the build request I just brought

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forward Monday night for the glycol

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system that's getting pull out of

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capital walking right now through um

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facility that was $9,000 that's one

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repair at the police station it's

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$90,000 Bureau I'm

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sorry so they for the bureau City Hall

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and what else did you say everything

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fire stations All City own buildings

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okay okay I'll just put down City own

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building okay thank

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you any other question for this

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section if not we'll move

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to page

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5 service

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Administration service Administration uh

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increased by

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6.61% there is no questions on this want

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any

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questions just give a statement go ahead

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please the statement on line 850

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Z

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$3,000 all the way to the bottom last

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page

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35

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Street That's Mike that's my street

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supervisor That's

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Mike just avoid calling me

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please for the sake of the public and

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you know people name out there we ask

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respectfully as so we do not mention

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names thank you other question go please

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85 010141 the uniform and school

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allowance 750 what does that cover what

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the number please uh

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5010 141 on top page

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36 on the New budget or the old budget

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I'm I'm so I'm going by the one I had

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that marked up okay that's what I'm

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doing too

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okay those are the safety shoes that are

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required contractually the same he said

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three PA 250 or 250 P so this is just

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for three people yeah but everyone gets

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Bo everybody different items everybody yes all our all our play saf

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shoes so they get allowance just to be

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clear they get allowance but they don't

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always necessarily buy because sometimes

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I see them as neighbors oh I don't

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personally take them to the store but

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maybe we should give him a card that can

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use at the store um no but I mean really

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in terms of safety Sometimes using

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wearing sneakers and things is just not

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they for what they're doing out there I

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won't I don't disagree with you and just

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follow should we make them mandatory

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that they should

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have it is it's in their contract that

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they are required to get them safety

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boots and if you're paying for safety

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boots as their employ

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we would expect them to wear the safy

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boosts to avoid any

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accidents and you know it's it's a daily thing your safety boots on and

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then starting to send people home to go

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get their safety boots and delaying the

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whole work day but yes I'm not going to

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disagree when it comes to safety they

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should have their safety boots

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onely yes and it's not just cuz I I know

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when we look at it I see think most

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people we see with their sneakers are

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know where call division but this rule

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has to be um you know enforced all the

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way across the board from the water

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wells the wastewater treatment plant to

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water sewer streets snap

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Parks if you get a boot of

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Ls you should have a pair of boots on

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yes agree something we can work

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on thank

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you um I have a question about the the

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stien for the street supervisor uh we

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had a discussion last evening about a

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stien for the city clerk um who who we

551
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,880
put that stien up under her salary as a

552
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,279
line up under it the clerk's salary as a

553
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:14,559
line what's the difference here the

554
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,919
$5,000 so why does the sement

555
00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,360
stay there's other sement too within the

556
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,720
contract I don't know these St have been

557
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,679
there it's not the same it's different

558
00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:29,279
because uh being the

559
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:34,399
registar is as we defin with the law is

560
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:36,519
a salary and not part of the typ and

561
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:40,440
that's the difference now the S is for

562
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,880
uh is being register and the typen like

563
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,840
for this position or the other positions

564
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320
are you know working at night uh taking

565
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,120
phone calls coming in in the evenings

566
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
work in the evenings that's what s this

567
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,080
before right I thought that's what the

568
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,279
stien for the city clerk was because

569
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,840
they were we

570
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000
for being a reg which

571
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,399
is separate title correct yeah and Main

572
00:29:05,399 --> 00:29:08,159
m m you have that on paper so can I

573
00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:10,480
highlight is can you share that with the

574
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,399
council please any other question for

575
00:29:13,399 --> 00:29:15,000
Street

576
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,159
Maintenance if not we'll move to

577
00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:21,240
um mechanical equipment

578
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
garage p37

579
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,679
[Music]

580
00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:32,360
5132 yes you want to skip skip yeah yeah

581
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,789
we didn't do

582
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,000
street we did have those CH

583
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360
85110 increased by

584
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,480
2% U if you look at the interior theary

585
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:54,190
uh increas uh approximately

586
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,519
50,000 and this was the last night where

587
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,640
the AR line the amount changed you see

588
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,399
that you see the new

589
00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:09,080
one so there are two two uh being funded

590
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,399
by

591
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,159
correct

592
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:14,880
yes any question but that had to drop

593
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640
down that was the

594
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,440
right

595
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,430
correct so come down

596
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,600
13152 yes that's correct there

597
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,799
than any question on the section if not

598
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,460
we'll V to page 37

599
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:40,159
[Music]

600
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,840
garage mechanical equipment garage

601
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:58,070
increased by 1.4%

602
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,720
you want to highlight this no I mean

603
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,399
there just minor increases I me if you

604
00:31:01,399 --> 00:31:05,000
look in the um in the uh motor vehicle

605
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,320
repair line the 5152

606
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,559
462 you know um from 23 it dropped from

607
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:17,200
a million mil 71,000 to 990 stay St just

608
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,960
higher ticket items um repair parts are

609
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,440
coming up a little bit there 15,000

610
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760
added for parts just to the this parts

611
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,919
for vehicles are getting more and more

612
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:29,600
expensive and there just 15 ,000 jump in

613
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,639
few

614
00:31:31,639 --> 00:31:36,080
anticipating going up it's not you know

615
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,029
not a big

616
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,080
Jump part my heads myself first one

617
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,120
spent a lot of time going through these

618
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,159
budgets to make them as tight as we can

619
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:50,389
as accurate as we

620
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:53,720
can that's my go ahead please U so is

621
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080
this the where we last year we had the

622
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,480
discussion about the mechanic that we

623
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,559
add just where this is yes who this

624
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:05,240
individual is is here is um so a513

625
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320
2121 the Master Mechanic is that no he

626
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,680
is

627
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,519
[Music]

628
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:14,440
the he's mechanic

629
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,639
one motor equipment oper

630
00:32:17,639 --> 00:32:21,389
mechanic

631
00:32:21,399 --> 00:32:23,639
P was

632
00:32:23,639 --> 00:32:28,720
hir months months ago so he didn't get

633
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,880
hired not like at the beginning of the

634
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
year no no we didn't find one at the

635
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880
beginning of the year um he was hired

636
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,919
when about two and a half months ago

637
00:32:36,919 --> 00:32:39,279
maybe three months ago he was

638
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,600
hired so we had to get a lift also I beg

639
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,559
you pardon we had to get a lift for the

640
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,679
gentleman to work with that was in last

641
00:32:46,679 --> 00:32:49,240
year's budget also so was ordered was in

642
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,399
so he he is working he just getting a

643
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:54,200
feel for things and then eventually he

644
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,639
will move to an off shift but our our shift will be changing in a little

645
00:32:59,639 --> 00:33:00,799
more than a month because we normally

646
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,960
break our shifts um usually the first

647
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,279
Monday of December is when we go to the winter

648
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,120
schedule after that he will be trained

649
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,679
well enough where he will work on the

650
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:14,159
second shift um but we're getting a lot

651
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,279
more ACC with him a lot more of the what

652
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,639
we'll call basic maintenance oil changes

653
00:33:19,639 --> 00:33:22,919
Tire Replacements um lights uh and this

654
00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:24,519
is what we needed somebody for to do

655
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,880
some of the just a normal regular

656
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,320
maintenance items on the trucks so we're

657
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,480
not sending them out pardon so we're not

658
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,639
sending them out as these little things

659
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:37,720
it's another it's another body in the

660
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600
shop it's getting done to get the trucks

661
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,159
back on the road

662
00:33:41,159 --> 00:33:43,639
quicker and then go to the night shift

663
00:33:43,639 --> 00:33:45,720
correct and so the first seven months of

664
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,240
the year we just that money we really

665
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,399
recapture goes back to the we money in

666
00:33:49,399 --> 00:33:51,080
the budget we didn't spend it it's it's

667
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,200
in the salary line it's still there okay

668
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,799
thank you go ahead please uh the city is

669
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,399
definitely taking uh

670
00:33:58,399 --> 00:33:59,919
measures with purchasing more EV

671
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,000
vehicles have you noticed any negative

672
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
effects of Maintenance or have those

673
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,840
costs the EV vles we have right now are

674
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,800
fairly new the where we see a little bit

675
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:16,200
of a delay is in the older um Chevy Vols they juston that so parts are

676
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,599
not as regularly available so um we

677
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,679
don't we don't work on electric vehicles

678
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,440
we just not qualify to work so the

679
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,040
electric Fels do have to go out to the dealerships so uh and we're at

680
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,679
Comm Mery the availability parts so you

681
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,480
know the parts not available you

682
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,520
unfortunately the vehicle will sit there

683
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,919
so the newer Vehicles we are not seeing

684
00:34:38,919 --> 00:34:42,520
the bolts and you know these vehicle are

685
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,280
older you know BTS if they just they

686
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,399
don't produce no more MH thank you

687
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,960
they've also just discontinued the bolt

688
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,440
after we

689
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,040
invested the B's gone the Bolt's

690
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,520
gone go ahead just correct me from WR

691
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400
but wasn't there some Federal grant

692
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,320
money around our EV Vehicles purchased

693
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200
or

694
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,079
no there's grant money we have purchased

695
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,000
under grants right with grants or

696
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,829
subsidized

697
00:35:16,839 --> 00:35:20,160
rebates 26,000 there is some money for

698
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,640
large larger

699
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,599
Vehicles

700
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,640
there any other question for

701
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,920
garage if not we'll move to page 39 snow

702
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,400
and

703
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,119
ice snow and ice

704
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:41,640
85142 Red by 13.92% from 1, 85,000

705
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,630
approximately to

706
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,240
934 I'm sorry was what was the decrease

707
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,800
percent I'm sorry 13.92% thank

708
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,880
you questions any you want to talk about highlight oh

709
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,680
just the you know the two still a

710
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,280
smaller budget but the two two biggest

711
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,119
reductions were the um fees for services

712
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,040
and the um Road materials um based on

713
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,200
what we spent this year for Road

714
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,240
materials and what we have for salt in

715
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,240
the um salt shed right now we're

716
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,480
confident that we'll get through 25 with

717
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,440
what we have in the budget in 934 500

718
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
and these are service covers uh are

719
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,599
private contractors personal f um the

720
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:34,510
loaders that are have vs of their

721
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,800
own and that's all that's it we do have

722
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,599
the same rate but that's we have they we

723
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:43,960
kept the rate the same as last year and

724
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,800
yes okay good perfect any other go ahead

725
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,040
please just out of curiosity how many do

726
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:56,000
we have like private we had any 21 every storm or a certain amount of

727
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
storm they they they're there on site

728
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,240
they're brought in um different parts of

729
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,319
the City

730
00:37:02,319 --> 00:37:05,440
View the North End um so the equipment

731
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,720
is already there ready so when they're

732
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,960
called for General P great those drivers

733
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,560
come in we don't have to wait for them

734
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
to get the here because takes hours

735
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,160
sometimes these are not machines you're

736
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,839
just going to bring quickly so these

737
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:20,000
machines are sitting in different places

738
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,720
within the city and the routes are

739
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,720
already established with the contractors

740
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,119
so they know where they have to go they

741
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,640
give them their machines they fuel them

742
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,599
we don't provide fuel or anything um and

743
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:33,040
they do their wants thank

744
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560
you go ahead do do you think that the

745
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,240
250 is going to be enough I know that

746
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,440
the year to date I feel like the year to

747
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:46,079
date when I like 239 I know no snow I

748
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,280
would love no snow I mean it's you know

749
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,920
it's a guess with the weather yeah I

750
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,200
mean the one year um we all know what

751
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,839
happened when we had the 30 some Ines we

752
00:37:55,839 --> 00:37:59,440
spent that LST was million do we can't

753
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,400
anticipate and just budget because we

754
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,839
think something may come um you know if

755
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:07,680
uh we have a year like we did last year

756
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,240
we should be fine yeah

757
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,119
okay there's two aspects of it one is

758
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:16,760
big storms or a lot of little storms we

759
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,920
have 4 in 4 in 5

760
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,440
in you got to mobilize

761
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,520
everything and our bigger storms we

762
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,680
involve we do have to go out is you we

763
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,280
have the loaders that pushing the snow

764
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,920
we have a storm like we did you know a

765
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,800
few years ago now we have to go in snow

766
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,920
removal so now we're hiring dump trucks

767
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,240
to on top of it the hall snow and then

768
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,440
that's when you know um you know they're

769
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,920
running 24 hours to get the streets

770
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,680
cleared because there's no way to push

771
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,520
the snow another snor St comes in so

772
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,280
it's not just for the loaders you know

773
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,640
it's everything else running around the

774
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,160
clock and our guys usually run around

775
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,280
the clock

776
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,440
and at the same time on the same subject

777
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,599
uh complian is is Big where you have

778
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:00,000
like the onesie TWY cars that are

779
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,280
blocking the plows from being efficient

780
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,480
has that been an issue that you've

781
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,240
noticed or have residents been

782
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,800
responsive to efforts of like

783
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,280
no I've been around for 45 years I

784
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,359
started in the street in

785
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:15,400
1979 there a lot of different falling

786
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,800
snow back there we didn't have a 10

787
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,280
wheeler dump truck we had six whe dump

788
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,440
trucks we didn't have Wing blades okay

789
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,720
um but there was a lot less cars park

790
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,839
people nowadays every family member in

791
00:39:26,839 --> 00:39:29,000
the family has car nobody uses the

792
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,480
driveway because when somebody wants to

793
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,160
get out he looks outside or she looks

794
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,640
out says I got to move five cars to get

795
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,240
mine out so everybody leaves the

796
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,480
driveway open it parks on the street it

797
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,760
makes it very difficult for our plows to

798
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680
get down these streets and maneuver

799
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,160
around cars it's it's not going to

800
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
change it's sows we're going to get

801
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,720
complaints um it's just the nature of

802
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,680
the

803
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,119
Beast well Paul I have to say since we

804
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:54,400
since this was

805
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920
implemented we have seen a lot of less

806
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,079
complaint about snow on the straight vle

807
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,400
them out their equipments are out and

808
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,480
they know maneu the straight taking care

809
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,720
of the snow so I would say that you know

810
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,040
it's working and we just want to make

811
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400
sure we maintain that line so that we

812
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,240
have this available whenever it happens

813
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,160
we started our contractors a little

814
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,240
earlier now General P sometimes we wait

815
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,440
because it's a time where we think we

816
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,680
can keep ahead of the storm and then

817
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,960
sneak up on you and next thing you know

818
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,960
you're behind it so we get the private

819
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,240
contact a little earlier now and start

820
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:29,839
getting streets

821
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,440
clean it's a lot of coordinated effort

822
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,000
with the police department getting them

823
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,240
out in front of us and and notifying

824
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,480
when they don't they're starting to tell

825
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,720
and they and they've been very good

826
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,960
working with Mike um coordinating the

827
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160
priority streets because priority street

828
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,040
is a priority street because there's a

829
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,319
reason and those are the streets that we

830
00:40:49,319 --> 00:40:51,319
have to have the cars off and you know

831
00:40:51,319 --> 00:40:52,520
it's obviously where the police

832
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,240
department starts and they notify us so

833
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,560
we get the plows up there as soon as

834
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,870
possible and

835
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,160
clear good job on that yeah any other

836
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,319
question all right seeing none we'll

837
00:41:05,319 --> 00:41:06,960
move to

838
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,880
page 40 and as on Parts

839
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560
maintenance Parts

840
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,780
Main inre by margin

841
00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:23,599
[Music]

842
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:27,720
2.18% maintenance pars maintenance

843
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,480
you know most of it is in salary it's

844
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,760
and benefits um but you know if you look

845
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,520
even fees for services in the Parks has

846
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,200
come down a little bit $10,000 there are

847
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,520
no single big items um you know other

848
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,440
than you look at overtime we anticipate

849
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,200
snow the parks take care of their own

850
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,280
parks and certain seity which are the

851
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,000
island streets off Eastern um obviously

852
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,280
you look at increases in t that

853
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,680
increases a time and a half and double

854
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,119
time and it's overtime so overtime

855
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,750
follows accordingly

856
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200
questions go ahead please um and this

857
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,560
has been a question throughout the

858
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,200
process the blue highlighted blue is

859
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,119
parer money and then on this budget the

860
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,079
um director of parts and W is paid out

861
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,160
of that which we know we

862
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,559
just High um so um after many quite a

863
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,440
while saving that short per had someone

864
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,880
else what's the thought process in terms

865
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,920
of moving forward

866
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,880
to to be able to keep this individual uh

867
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,040
I think the director parks and

868
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,119
reparation is an important or critical

869
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:37,040
person keeping the parks we've run for

870
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,480
years without think the last long

871
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,520
standing PR Parts was the I think he's

872
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
been gone for 20 years I don't know he's

873
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,200
been gone a long time um we've limp a

874
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680
along but when you limp along it creates

875
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,559
problems too some of the more important

876
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,520
things you want to look at with the

877
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,079
parks okay we just have somebody that's

878
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,040
just dedicated to do that now with the

879
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,119
park structor in place we have somebody

880
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,599
who's dedicated somebody who's actually

881
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:06,319
familiar with the parks and City

882
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:09,680
operations so um it will be an asset to

883
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480
the city moving forward um funding that

884
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,359
now and then removing it later just

885
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:16,400
going you know we're going to go

886
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,319
backwards it's one step forward two

887
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:22,440
steps backwards so um I think it's Pro

888
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,559
upon the Council next budget cycle if

889
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,839
it's in there to keep it definitely

890
00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:30,440
that's that wasn't my question whether

891
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,040
way should keep it or not just wondering

892
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,040
about how we think about making sure

893
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,680
that it is there because right now it's

894
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,280
out of arer funds which won't be there

895
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,230
next

896
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,400
year generate more money from the

897
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:50,480
tennis baseball I mean there are some

898
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,400
fees that are set within the parks and

899
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,880
we look at increasing fees in building a

900
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,200
codes at times it may be time that we

901
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,720
have to look at increasing some of the

902
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,960
fee structures that are people are using

903
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,480
their Parks from everything from the

904
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,119
Rose Garden to The Pavilions everything

905
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:07,040
I

906
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,720
mean we have our needs and if our needs

907
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,720
are important we have to find a way

908
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,620
to pay for those

909
00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:14,880
[Music]

910
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,520
needs thank you it's a very important

911
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,760
position and it's funded by arook we

912
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,119
fortunate that it was funded by arook

913
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,280
for the last couple years we'll have to

914
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,400
absorb it into the general budget

915
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,760
I mean this is one of them but once we

916
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,240
make the investment that we made in our

917
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,760
Parks it would just be it would be crazy

918
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,960
not to have that position operating

919
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:45,040
exactly and they par getting better oh um the senior tree trimmer and

920
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,800
the tree trimmer is after new gentleman

921
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,599
who's going to take us which one senior

922
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,800
the senior tree trimmer is the is the

923
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,599
gentleman who was going to be taking his

924
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,319
um arborous exam in fact we just got

925
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,280
some equipment form downstairs very

926
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,720
qualified very experienced um he does a

927
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,170
great job he's he's saving us

928
00:45:05,170 --> 00:45:07,599
[Music]

929
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,119
money um I know that the new parks

930
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:12,520
director is you know putting together

931
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,640
lists of equipment park by Park uh

932
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,520
things that we need swing swing

933
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,119
replacement um wood chips etc etc um I

934
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,559
I'm concerned about the 25 I um for for

935
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:28,119
equipment that we might need more money

936
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,680
than that but I'm hoping we can figure

937
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,839
that out but we just got a fairly amount

938
00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:35,240
of equipment

939
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:40,000
for should be good fors through the

940
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,680
um

941
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,280
Foundation um but a lot of this what um

942
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,960
Mr M is doing is um he's looking at um

943
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,680
the repair things the swings that get

944
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,119
broken during summer the you

945
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,440
know tiers the basic maintenance so we

946
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,319
have all

947
00:45:59,319 --> 00:46:03,520
the play and then obviously start to

948
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,280
develop where we want to go the part in

949
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,119
the

950
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,720
future I'm I'm excited about it I think

951
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,960
that you know it's going to be pretty

952
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,870
planned out and and it's

953
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,240
great any other question Parks

954
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,200
maintenance say none we'll move to um

955
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,349
pools

956
00:46:24,359 --> 00:46:27,960
maintenance which part you want

957
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,520
oh full maintenance a

958
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,319
7115 increased by

959
00:46:33,319 --> 00:46:37,040
22.4% uh this the request of security

960
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:46,230
staff and meance workers for the uh

961
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,160
new would you like explanation please go

962
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,880
ahead stuff no

963
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,000
I I think we know

964
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000
it um and and new pool it's a beautiful

965
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,240
pool um it's a complicated pool it's not

966
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,599
what we're used to in Central Park um

967
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:05,720
the fter

968
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:09,119
system um because it's new techn it's

969
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,720
today's technology not what we have

970
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:13,280
water running in it and then overflowing

971
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,800
at the other end um so the requirements

972
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,119
to the health department on ph forine

973
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,079
and different things is a lot more

974
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,319
strict um when they come in and monitor

975
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,760
the pool check the pool and they come in

976
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,160
regularly um so the chemical usage is

977
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,599
different there um you know so staff she

978
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:34,400
you know help with the monitoring of

979
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,160
that pool right now we're using staff

980
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,559
certified from the Wast to do Chemical

981
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,319
Testing there's it's different the old

982
00:47:45,319 --> 00:47:48,200
Central Park have no filter system so

983
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,359
the cost to operate the filter is a

984
00:47:50,359 --> 00:47:53,079
little bit more and obviously the

985
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:55,440
security is um it's based on what we

986
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,440
went through in the first year we're

987
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,359
and people are entering the pool at

988
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:05,950
night um

989
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,839
so L of hands quickly lot of hands just

990
00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:12,599
quick so our last with the last pool we

991
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,119
were essentially emptying and refilling

992
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,240
like every day right like in nor really

993
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,079
what it was there was constant stream of

994
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:23,079
frh water rning okay okay sometimes you

995
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:24,880
would have to empty it though with I

996
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,480
mean and the other thing

997
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,559
we all know the problem with the geese

998
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,680
so yes we did have to empty the pool

999
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
clean the pool and then refill the pool

1000
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,440
and you know clean the deck you know

1001
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,720
around constantly because of issues with

1002
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:39,839
the heat

1003
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,240
yes and the heating

1004
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,839
fuel for the pool for the pool the

1005
00:48:44,839 --> 00:48:46,200
heating fuel is for everything there's

1006
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,680
the the original building where um all

1007
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,359
the servers are um the Central Park

1008
00:48:52,359 --> 00:48:55,359
building used to be the office is

1009
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:58,359
there yeah yeah that building was heated

1010
00:48:58,359 --> 00:49:00,400
it's the building not no we don't heat

1011
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,020
the pool

1012
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:06,040
[Music]

1013
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,960
wi there's no heat in the pool or

1014
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,920
buildings it's it's for the the

1015
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,720
administrative building

1016
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:18,920
is go ahead um yes I wanted to um ask um

1017
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,559
in terms of pill first um didn't know if

1018
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,960
there was any thought about um whether

1019
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,760
we could put a splash pad instead of the

1020
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,559
pool uh so that's one question I have um

1021
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,079
or just wanted to bring that up and if

1022
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:33,839
so how much would that cost I think

1023
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:36,880
around 75 but I'm but I'm not sure

1024
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,440
and could be

1025
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,920
considerably Les less expensive than

1026
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,319
tring rep the that's we got on the pool

1027
00:49:45,319 --> 00:49:47,200
I I think it was three years ago we had

1028
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
a report on it that was about

1029
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,559
$500,000 um since then the pool

1030
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,680
everything um all the controls the El

1031
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,359
that's in the pit next to the P shot um

1032
00:50:00,359 --> 00:50:01,880
the whole pool would have to come out

1033
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,349
you'd have to go whole

1034
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:12,190
pooling Million by the time you all the

1035
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,960
anything a decision

1036
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,920
that director car will maybe next year

1037
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,640
budget for you 26 for a

1038
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
uh it's only

1039
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,720
26 with that said there's some there was

1040
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,200
AR money that was um dedicated to

1041
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Hillhurst and Mr fer is looking up now

1042
00:50:32,799 --> 00:50:35,000
to see if there's any remaining and I

1043
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,880
was I'm not sure Mr if that's really um

1044
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,720
what that that what been what supposed

1045
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:46,470
to be used for

1046
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,359
thatle so he said there's 200,000 that's

1047
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:51,319
pickle ball is not paid for yet no the

1048
00:50:51,319 --> 00:50:53,079
pickle ball is I'm assuming it's paid

1049
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:54,280
through engineer I'm assuming that's all

1050
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
been paid talking about the

1051
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,839
there's money set aside just for

1052
00:51:00,839 --> 00:51:04,000
repair it's just not enough no near

1053
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,799
enough we I think there was talks put

1054
00:51:06,799 --> 00:51:09,079
the dog park right or

1055
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:11,960
something the dog there was um talk

1056
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,599
about a dog park and there was also

1057
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:14,960
something to do with the basketball

1058
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,280
courts up at Hillhurst it was all whole

1059
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,760
all part of one plan um that we had

1060
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,000
worked on um with residents from that

1061
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,480
area um and it also we talked a little

1062
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,160
bit about fair but I think the Fairview

1063
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,920
stuff happened but the big thing were

1064
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,839
the pickle ball courts um but yeah the

1065
00:51:30,839 --> 00:51:34,160
dog park the um and what did I say the

1066
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,880
basketball court um were something there

1067
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,799
but maybe some of that 200,000 couldi

1068
00:51:40,799 --> 00:51:43,920
courts going into Fair can't remember

1069
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:54,160
what what was with fa two yeah Pi balls are hit yeah the the

1070
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,839
basketball courts being made over to a

1071
00:51:56,839 --> 00:52:03,799
dog park cut Center section out M yep so the money that's left is going to

1072
00:52:03,799 --> 00:52:05,400
cover all that there's no room there's

1073
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,079
no uh funding left for considering a

1074
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,599
splash pad well unless you divert what

1075
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:12,640
you have towards a splash pad and then

1076
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,200
you know see what the total cost of The

1077
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,319
Flash p is you know but there might be

1078
00:52:17,319 --> 00:52:21,040
some sits finished up

1079
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,040
so it's only go ahead um so the other

1080
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,839
questions I have um well I just wanted

1081
00:52:26,839 --> 00:52:28,440
to say that the health and Recreation

1082
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,240
committee um did meet um to discuss

1083
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,760
possible fees and pull rules um I think

1084
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
you you attended that meeting Mr Leon

1085
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,280
thank you um and so we did come up with

1086
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,359
some ideas we never moved it forward or

1087
00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:44,280
voted on anything but we can continue to

1088
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,280
have that you know discussion to try to

1089
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,359
generate some Revenue um what we had

1090
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:52,280
talked about was non residents um having

1091
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,040
to pay fees for the pool but we haven't even brought that forward yet

1092
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,599
but um um it might give us you know some

1093
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:00,559
additional Revenue but my other question

1094
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:03,839
is so have we thought at all about the

1095
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:07,240
old pool at Central Park and what we

1096
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,000
would do with that I mean I know there's

1097
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,480
been a lot of ideas tossed around um but

1098
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,920
when would we take care of that well

1099
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,570
really depends on um green

1100
00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:19,839
[Music]

1101
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:23,280
spaceace some people have asked for back

1102
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,079
ice skating the small one it wouldn't

1103
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:27,480
take up the whole pool area

1104
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,960
some ask you for um was it the

1105
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,119
volleyball there's no volleyball the

1106
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:35,319
sand area where one in is volleyball

1107
00:53:35,319 --> 00:53:39,040
there's a number of people who you know

1108
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,400
sort of comment on a couple things that

1109
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,680
would be nice there but again solid plan

1110
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,960
um me particular I think back when I was

1111
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,720
young and used to ice gate at Central

1112
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,000
Park yeah and um you know if you did

1113
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,160
something there you could control the

1114
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,359
depth where you don't have to worry

1115
00:53:55,359 --> 00:53:57,400
about you know having red FL up all time

1116
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,640
it's just not safe you know you make it

1117
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,960
12 in deep you don't have to worry about

1118
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,280
you know somebody falling in and going

1119
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,599
under the ice um so there's a number of

1120
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:09,960
things it's you I think um this

1121
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,789
winter B for

1122
00:54:14,799 --> 00:54:17,000
a parks

1123
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,280
and and see if we come up this what's

1124
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,789
the best use for that

1125
00:54:23,799 --> 00:54:27,480
area go ahead well uh I do remember the

1126
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,440
woman that came forward that

1127
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,640
wanted hles where are we with that

1128
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,640
because it's going to be next year

1129
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,470
pretty soon I'm sorry want

1130
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,000
it to back from

1131
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,349
her

1132
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:51,200
looking to her yeah we did at the

1133
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,079
address that she indicated that she

1134
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:55,960
could be reached at not heard back so

1135
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,720
that's as a follow and if there's

1136
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,160
anything more I'll bring it to the

1137
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,520
council's attention I get from okay I

1138
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,640
just want to make sure because last time

1139
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,760
was like I did this for since 2022 and

1140
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,319
here I am again and nobody's helping me

1141
00:55:09,319 --> 00:55:11,280
so just want to make sure that we get

1142
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,280
our good

1143
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880
those Paul since pool and the Central

1144
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Park Pool the new pool what is your

1145
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,640
takeway from the usage this year what

1146
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,680
would you if anything change for next

1147
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,119
year what would

1148
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:27,319
you change and usage

1149
00:55:27,319 --> 00:55:29,960
um we we based the usage on what we

1150
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,720
thought was the safe number that the

1151
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:37,720
um boys and girls can handle um and it

1152
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,880
was 450 and that pool was maxed out for

1153
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,359
it was hot summer so it was maxed out

1154
00:55:42,359 --> 00:55:45,760
all the time um and you

1155
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,119
know it was the first year whether it

1156
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,000
was the novelty of it and next year

1157
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,960
we'll see you know what happens but you

1158
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,319
know I there's nothing I would do

1159
00:55:55,319 --> 00:55:58,240
differently in that po uh with regards

1160
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:01,319
to other than possibly you know trying

1161
00:56:01,319 --> 00:56:02,960
to extend hours because people really

1162
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,799
enjoy the pool I mean obviously when

1163
00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:06,880
it's h people enjoy it but that would be

1164
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,960
something we'd have to work out

1165
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,000
contraction with um you know the

1166
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,960
contractor who's going to you know do

1167
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,960
the life regarding and stuff for us but

1168
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,039
um it's a short season and we get eight

1169
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:18,960
to nine weeks out of it um and then

1170
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,720
unfortunately most of the staff that's

1171
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,599
working goes back to school whether it's

1172
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,160
college or high school so you know it

1173
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,440
doesn't last much longer you know but

1174
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,839
maybe hours and there was a lot of

1175
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:33,720
activity very early in the morning for

1176
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:36,480
the lap pool um it was amazing even if

1177
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,880
it was raining as long as there wasn't

1178
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,160
thunder lightning they were using a la

1179
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,280
pool even in the rain so um it was a

1180
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,589
great

1181
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:51,839
success um I don't think it was a

1182
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:54,280
novelty I think I think it's just a huge

1183
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,760
asset to our city i' see kids walking

1184
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,319
all over the city with towels seriously

1185
00:56:59,319 --> 00:57:01,480
to and from it was really beautiful I

1186
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,480
liked it uh my question is

1187
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,839
um uh uh security staff so I I thought

1188
00:57:08,839 --> 00:57:10,720
Chief Clifford mentioned yesterday they

1189
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,520
had some type of Grant he paid they paid

1190
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,119
part of that the community was up there

1191
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,200
when I saw the truck there was some

1192
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,440
people up there that you know there were

1193
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,799
some there were some problems or some

1194
00:57:23,799 --> 00:57:26,760
issues at times you know with with the

1195
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,039
people you know Vis po um you but at the

1196
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,640
funding

1197
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,319
part did it come from the PD or just

1198
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:37,240
came from you don't know I don't know I

1199
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,880
know after the mayor had requested that

1200
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,240
there was an officer there more in the

1201
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,079
afternoon sessions because that's when

1202
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,400
it got a little more crowd and

1203
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,039
especially when the pool is shutting

1204
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:49,680
down getting people to leave the pool so

1205
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,400
I'm not sure how it was funded whether

1206
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,599
it stly through the PD or whether it was

1207
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:56,480
a grant or something

1208
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720
I I can I can also offer that the police

1209
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,599
were there in the morning in the

1210
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:01,160
afternoon I played tennis there in the

1211
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,599
morning and they were there like 8:30 in

1212
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:04,839
the morning um so they were there I'm

1213
00:58:04,839 --> 00:58:07,680
just wondering the funding line most of

1214
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760
our issues are SS people didn't want to

1215
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,839
leave the

1216
00:58:10,839 --> 00:58:13,280
C you making nice and you ask them to

1217
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,559
leave the funding was directly through

1218
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:17,760
the police department because you know

1219
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,720
okay you know we weren't planning at

1220
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,400
having police because of TR we

1221
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,359
started started TR

1222
00:58:26,359 --> 00:58:28,839
so it's been a learning curve now we've

1223
00:58:28,839 --> 00:58:31,799
up some of the uh other levels of

1224
00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:34,960
deterrence with the camera

1225
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,680
systems uh again

1226
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,280
there's two factors one is uh

1227
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,960
maintaining

1228
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,079
uh appropriate activity during the

1229
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:51,039
operational hours of the parks and then

1230
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:54,160
it's people are choosing to go in there

1231
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,319
after hours

1232
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:59,319
people jumping the fence and so it's how

1233
00:58:59,319 --> 00:59:03,240
do you balance that out uh with will be

1234
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,520
uniform police or other security that

1235
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,760
might be a little bit cheaper and more

1236
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,240
complimentary to just activities within

1237
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,079
uh we're talking about the pool now but

1238
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,760
I look at uh his a diamond his music cap

1239
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,200
and so there places in the park where we

1240
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,760
want people to have fun be able to enjoy

1241
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,520
it and uh some of it is just being

1242
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,039
approached with a little bit level of

1243
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:33,240
flexibility what we learned this year

1244
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,240
and how do we implement it going forward

1245
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,000
next year again to get most cost

1246
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,319
effective results but making sure people

1247
00:59:41,319 --> 00:59:43,359
are behaving themselves and having a

1248
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:44,280
good

1249
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,920
time when and you called your committee

1250
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,680
toward I think one of the discussion was

1251
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,359
um security cameras um we talking about

1252
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:55,880
security having enforc security but what

1253
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,880
about was um buying some cameras Oh we

1254
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,720
have cameras

1255
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,680
here J was that they lagged in the

1256
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,039
installation so pool was done some of

1257
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:07,880
the cameras weren't placed it was uh

1258
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,119
laying some fiber optics uh everything

1259
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:14,480
now I believe is up and

1260
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,799
running

1261
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:19,640
okay yeah I mean I think we could still

1262
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,880
use a few more cameras um but I think

1263
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,839
the lighting is the other piece that

1264
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,480
really helped I mean we're having

1265
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,920
vandalism I mean there's there's no

1266
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,680
doubt but I think the additional

1267
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,280
lighting that came as part of the um

1268
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,280
overall project of the pool the tennis

1269
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,280
courts Etc the road um really was great

1270
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,839
and um you know helpful at night in the

1271
01:00:42,839 --> 01:00:44,599
park I know during the music Haven

1272
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,559
season at least it was it was definitely

1273
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,599
a little bit easier to maneuver around

1274
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,079
um so I appreciate and the lighting is I

1275
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,680
love those um those lights as well I

1276
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,839
mean they're really very beautiful

1277
01:00:58,839 --> 01:01:01,799
so and just back in terms of the

1278
01:01:01,799 --> 01:01:03,599
security staff cause is that what could

1279
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,880
cost us this year oh I no I don't I

1280
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,880
don't have the I don't have the

1281
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,599
information it's

1282
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:12,520
15,000 have

1283
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,920
somebody through the whole season you

1284
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:21,190
can look that up and you tell me give

1285
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,319
behav you know it's unfortunate that we

1286
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:25,319
have to do this for a nice facility like

1287
01:01:25,319 --> 01:01:26,520
that

1288
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,160
people are

1289
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,319
just oh it was coming out of the police

1290
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:37,400
budget okay I think the special police I said this year the police security was

1291
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,280
paid out of the police budget yeah okay

1292
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,960
that makes

1293
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,480
sense I think to miss Toro's Point um it

1294
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,119
might have been under special police

1295
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:49,400
officer when the um when the police

1296
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,240
presented

1297
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,440
gent and the gentleman that work

1298
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,160
downstairs in the pool that's right the

1299
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,760
pool Bas numbers on two shifts the

1300
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,720
second and the third shift be $25 find

1301
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,880
my pool we canet it here and if we have

1302
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880
to revisit it we'll revisit it when um

1303
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,960
the parks right committee comes up with

1304
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,000
their fees and decide to move forward

1305
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,839
with their fee

1306
01:02:12,839 --> 01:02:15,319
I'll all right any other question on the

1307
01:02:15,319 --> 01:02:16,319
full

1308
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:20,160
maintenance if not we'll move to page 44

1309
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,400
waste Administration our favor here we

1310
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,160
go

1311
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,279
waste admin increased by

1312
01:02:30,279 --> 01:02:32,400
6.15% I'm just going to go through the

1313
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,640
rest of the waste collection a 8161

1314
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,559
inreased by

1315
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:42,200
9.85% waste disposal increased by

1316
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,220
6.1% and waste recycling increased by

1317
01:02:46,220 --> 01:02:48,319
[Music]

1318
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:54,430
9.02% we Recreation I did

1319
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,279
a712 oh sorry all right let's go back to

1320
01:02:58,279 --> 01:03:01,000
page 42

1321
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,400
bottom full Recreation FS of recreation

1322
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,230
87125 increased by

1323
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,450
4.72% I think that's mostly due to the

1324
01:03:11,450 --> 01:03:12,880
[Music]

1325
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,269
board fees for services

1326
01:03:17,279 --> 01:03:19,200
correct

1327
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,359
staff well the state changed

1328
01:03:22,359 --> 01:03:25,940
the minimum all R for lifeguards so

1329
01:03:25,940 --> 01:03:27,839
[Music]

1330
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:30,870
yeah

1331
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,359
reflects and this is funded by ARA we

1332
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:35,160
had some make

1333
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:42,240
202 2026 per y in the general budget any

1334
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,119
question on this that's all the pools

1335
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:46,680
not just um right not just not just

1336
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,309
Central I just wanted to point that

1337
01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,990
out yeah

1338
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,319
sorry yeah

1339
01:03:57,319 --> 01:04:01,039
okay so we'll move to page 44 W

1340
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,400
Administration prob can just give us an

1341
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,559
update on Administration and we'll take

1342
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,559
question and go colle how much

1343
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:11,359
Administration than some increases with

1344
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:15,880
the to um Staffing or the deputy

1345
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,279
director of

1346
01:04:18,279 --> 01:04:21,720
um General Services one thing we look at

1347
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,000
is retaining help and attention here and

1348
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,119
um there are some increase in order to

1349
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,440
um compensate the employees that are

1350
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,119
doing the work here um we have Union

1351
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:36,000
employees that are exceeding the

1352
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,200
salaries of

1353
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,359
managers U which is um you know trying

1354
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:43,359
to move somebody up from the to the next

1355
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:45,240
manager spot he's not going to leave his

1356
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,599
Union spot because has the full

1357
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:48,440
protection of the bargain unit and he's

1358
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,720
making more than the

1359
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,960
manager it's um

1360
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,000
and it's just something we have to look

1361
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,400
at as a whole

1362
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,599
um we start looking

1363
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:02,480
at retaining good management within the

1364
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,279
organization any question on this on

1365
01:05:05,279 --> 01:05:07,839
wasted men right waste

1366
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:10,799
Administration go ahead please uh so the

1367
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:12,720
deputy Street manager

1368
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,000
81601 100 so he's half part time half

1369
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:22,000
time here and half time where streets so

1370
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,359
okay go ahead sorry but to that point

1371
01:05:25,359 --> 01:05:28,079
Miss on is there truly no ceiling for

1372
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:32,039
salaries or for that that

1373
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:34,359
um example you had where you have

1374
01:05:34,359 --> 01:05:37,319
employees superseding like salaries of

1375
01:05:37,319 --> 01:05:40,319
managers That's goes back to the

1376
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,799
negotiations with the barain so when you

1377
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:45,920
look at that and you know youing them

1378
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,680
are you know

1379
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,920
$98,000 um without their own

1380
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,799
time yeah for a phone you it's you know

1381
01:05:55,799 --> 01:05:57,279
it's disappointing to the manager from

1382
01:05:57,279 --> 01:05:58,799
supervising him and you know after the

1383
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:00,799
first two weeks of the winter he's

1384
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:02,240
already exceeded what the manager's

1385
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,240
making and you know so when you look at

1386
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,559
moving you know a manager leaves because

1387
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:08,839
find something different maybe um that

1388
01:06:08,839 --> 01:06:09,880
person doesn't want to move up to the

1389
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,319
manager spot he's making more where he

1390
01:06:11,319 --> 01:06:14,799
is within the unit so it's you know

1391
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:18,119
we've got to change that Delta between

1392
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:19,640
some of the bargaining units and some of

1393
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,109
the managers that are

1394
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,760
managing go ahead please so I see that

1395
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,799
you have uh your info processing

1396
01:06:27,799 --> 01:06:30,240
specialist three but that that position

1397
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,880
is not being filled is this I guess this

1398
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,000
is probably a a question for the mayor

1399
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,440
and um Mr Ferrari is this consistent

1400
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,760
throughout that we're moving all the um

1401
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,079
info processes especially either we're

1402
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:43,760
filling those positions or moving them

1403
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,359
up to fours and getting rid of the lower

1404
01:06:46,359 --> 01:06:49,520
uh clerk kind of positions so looks like

1405
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,599
it's happening and I think I think you

1406
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,000
know uh I think the reason for that is

1407
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,520
to uh is to keep uh retention of of the

1408
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,359
employees that are broader level of job

1409
01:07:02,359 --> 01:07:05,839
duties that can be assigned to the four

1410
01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:07,960
as opposed to the three so we get more

1411
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,720
value out of the actual workload plus

1412
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,549
you get your attention

1413
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:17,480
employe so the the clerk like we were

1414
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,680
talking

1415
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,839
about um the clarify Position will be no

1416
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:25,760
more within the city at all

1417
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,640
we will but in fact in fact at the

1418
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,839
police department they're getting rid of

1419
01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:31,760
I3 and adding it

1420
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,440
claric so it's recruit so you have to

1421
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,559
match

1422
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:39,520
up what the skill set of the employee is

1423
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,240
with the actual demands of the job for

1424
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,319
the

1425
01:07:43,319 --> 01:07:45,079
workload because well you weren't here

1426
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:46,480
may but there was a lengthy discussion

1427
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,160
about um an ips3 position being move a

1428
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,760
clerical a position being removed ips3

1429
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,520
being added and the impact it would have

1430
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,799
on that particular because there's an

1431
01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:59,000
individual in the clerical Aid and that

1432
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,799
person could see conceivably um not have

1433
01:08:01,799 --> 01:08:04,000
a job if they had an ips3 who was on the

1434
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,359
list which there is a list now to fill

1435
01:08:06,359 --> 01:08:09,440
it so that's why I was wondering um the

1436
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,480
rational most things do happen with

1437
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,559
civil service and long stop trying to

1438
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:16,520
figure out the full logic behind the

1439
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,520
civil service system clerical Aid is not

1440
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,520
a civil service it's not a tested

1441
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,759
position correct but what you're saying

1442
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:27,199
is on the other side where somebody

1443
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:29,920
might be in a position there is a test

1444
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,719
they would not be reachable on the list

1445
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:34,760
and they would be out of a

1446
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,000
[Music]

1447
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,319
position go ahead please well I think

1448
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,120
that I think it might have

1449
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,400
been we talked about this when you were

1450
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,520
presenting last night and I think that

1451
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,239
did you mention that we would do

1452
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:48,600
everything in our power to make sure

1453
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,000
that that person would be working still

1454
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,520
within the city uh somewhere and I also

1455
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,239
just want to say and I have very limited

1456
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,440
experience in this just from one of my

1457
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:01,600
previous roles but I do find it frust I

1458
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,839
found it frustrating as a supervisor but

1459
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,159
I also want to say that again I think

1460
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:09,000
that recognizing and trying to promote

1461
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,960
recognizing people's skills trying to um

1462
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,480
encourage them to move up and and

1463
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,480
appreciate their skill level is really

1464
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:19,799
important um especially around retention

1465
01:09:19,799 --> 01:09:22,120
um so I appreciate when people are you

1466
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,560
know like what the police department

1467
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,159
said especially because that clerical

1468
01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:28,359
the job

1469
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:31,400
description um I I think is really just

1470
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,560
so limited in terms of what that person

1471
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,920
can actually do unless they're working

1472
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,520
outside their job title and that could

1473
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,279
get us into trouble so I didn't see did

1474
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,040
they present us with a job description

1475
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,359
of a clerical Aid because I didn't see

1476
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:45,920
that I don't think that they did but I'm

1477
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,319
just saying they talked about the fact

1478
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:49,080
that I believe the clerical Aid mostly

1479
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,400
it's like answering phones for example I

1480
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,839
mean once you start to use the computers

1481
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:57,280
and you know typee

1482
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,360
ition so you know I can't make that

1483
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,080
comparison I didn't see either job

1484
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,600
prescription since we're on that topic

1485
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,600
and it's related to code I'm just going

1486
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,800
to make comment would it be wise to keep

1487
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,400
that position because of the workflow

1488
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,280
and

1489
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,640
codes yeah because there's so much so

1490
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,480
much for happening now and so much

1491
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:16,440
things need to get look at is you know

1492
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,560
the actual job description cleric versus

1493
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,080
what a ips3 can do or

1494
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,520
cases4 you know when you deal with the

1495
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,719
Bary unit if you run say Clark to say

1496
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:29,320
look I I need you to you know do a

1497
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,159
spreadsheet and give me a report a job

1498
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,120
description I I to do it so you you you

1499
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,920
know you got to look at your needs in

1500
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,280
the department and then look at how you

1501
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,120
going to fill those needs if you got six

1502
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,239
people answering the phone but nobody

1503
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:47,330
can write a report we only

1504
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:50,990
[Music]

1505
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,880
one that's why we moved you know up to

1506
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,360
you know for the IPS from IPS 2 IPS 3

1507
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,800
because the salary is not a big jump but

1508
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,560
you get a lot more um respons

1509
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,880
responsibilities and they can do a lot

1510
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,840
more for you under that title

1511
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,800
um and the only way that person if if

1512
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,640
they their their job was because

1513
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,000
somebody else wanted a job the only way

1514
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,440
for them to do that is to move in the

1515
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,360
position where if they had seniority but

1516
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,560
with the same job title in a different

1517
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,040
[Music]

1518
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,470
department that's

1519
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:30,560
has to be in that

1520
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,840
group it's really

1521
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:38,560
complicated okay and to I have about

1522
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,120
five minutes maybe eight I have to be at

1523
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,239
the

1524
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:46,280
um plot meeting

1525
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:53,750
so we'll don't worry don't

1526
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,719
worry all right let's go any other

1527
01:11:55,719 --> 01:11:57,360
question for Waste admin if not we'll

1528
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,880
move into waste

1529
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:04,189
collection bottom of page 45 into

1530
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:07,840
46 there was a question submitted 81611

1531
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,280
125 are waste working hours that is when

1532
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,239
employee from another department comes

1533
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,440
down to assist waste there's that $2 an

1534
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,120
hour bump that they get so if we're

1535
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,120
short or there's a lot of call outs and

1536
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,760
weight and get somebody some Street stn

1537
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,840
pars they get that $2 an hour and we did

1538
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,880
approve that in the contract yes so that

1539
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,880
was approved by us contractual thank

1540
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,000
you any other questions on this

1541
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,280
section if not we'll move to page um 47

1542
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:46,669
at top W

1543
01:12:46,679 --> 01:12:50,120
disposal please U just on 46 and 47

1544
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,000
increasing the labor loader from uh 3 to

1545
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,600
5 and 5 to 7 I think that's a a good

1546
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,159
deal I think it's important and I just

1547
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,400
want to put that out there disposal

1548
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,440
let's do disposal

1549
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:05,199
uh one no no no right here uh but

1550
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,360
dealing with this one here oh but we

1551
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,920
this this is up here on page 46 so it's

1552
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,840
um a

1553
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,440
8161

1554
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:20,679
121 so 3 to five yeah um and what it was

1555
01:13:20,679 --> 01:13:23,000
there's two in one two in the waste

1556
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,719
colle two in recyc have a lot of very

1557
01:13:25,719 --> 01:13:29,440
good labor loaders that do a great job

1558
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:32,040
um they're never going to get you know

1559
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,880
they not have no incent to get a

1560
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,800
driver's license to a CDL for other

1561
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,679
reasons right but you know um they

1562
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:42,040
should be looked at to move up to get

1563
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,440
benefits from the city because of the

1564
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:46,520
work they're doing and you know we were

1565
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,360
kind enough to put five in last year

1566
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,760
requesting four more this year and those

1567
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,080
are would be four labor orders that are

1568
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,120
will call cream the crop they come in

1569
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,600
every day they do a great job um you

1570
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,560
know and you know and move them from

1571
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,600
seasonal to um you know full-time

1572
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,159
position here I think that's wonderful

1573
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:08,800
um and they don't need their CDL at this

1574
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,320
point but hopefully they'll be working

1575
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,920
right along and and want to get it and

1576
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,679
that'll increase up the line for CDLs

1577
01:14:14,679 --> 01:14:18,880
for for trash drivers thank you go ahead

1578
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,760
just really question from we kind of had

1579
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,320
this discussion around a different um

1580
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,520
department so this this 15 is this

1581
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,230
really people in this

1582
01:14:26,230 --> 01:14:31,070
[Music]

1583
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:37,110
position

1584
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,669
okay all right so that one did get

1585
01:14:42,679 --> 01:14:47,629
Bren five is funded

1586
01:14:47,639 --> 01:14:53,270
by five is funded

1587
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,430
by any other question

1588
01:14:57,440 --> 01:14:59,000
mve to page

1589
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,669
47 where

1590
01:15:02,679 --> 01:15:05,199
disposal Way

1591
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:08,280
Recycling the the big increases are

1592
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,280
there obviously in our tiing fees and

1593
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,639
that'll answer the question for the way

1594
01:15:11,639 --> 01:15:16,239
recycling to the contract is by CPI okay

1595
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:20,320
um I'm sorry what is that consum price

1596
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,600
yeah the contracts do go by CPA because

1597
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,320
the landf fees go um every year Fiel

1598
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,400
prices go um and with recycling there is

1599
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,120
no guarantee with recycling we don't

1600
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,080
even have a contract that takes us a

1601
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,480
past two years because that's all based

1602
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:37,760
on you know we go back four years ago

1603
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,920
three years ago we didn't pay for

1604
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,560
recycling right and now we're paying

1605
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,920
more for you know disposing of recycles

1606
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,199
recyclables than we are for MSW so it's

1607
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:50,000
an unknown we could well be been higher

1608
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,560
um not anticipating much higher but it's something that nobody can guarantee

1609
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:56,370
us on a regular

1610
01:15:56,370 --> 01:15:57,760
[Music]

1611
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,430
basis questions thank

1612
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:04,700
you

1613
01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:06,239
[Music]

1614
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:09,639
question see on we'll move into

1615
01:16:09,639 --> 01:16:11,600
um water

1616
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,480
fun I I can't be like they put me on as

1617
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:18,239
first at their meeting and Mr Warner

1618
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:21,199
wants to talk about the high SCH and I

1619
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:22,679
don't want to

1620
01:16:22,679 --> 01:16:25,679
get be for that if you want I know you

1621
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:29,199
have unfinished business for um today

1622
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:30,960
you want to be watering store have no

1623
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,080
problem well I may be able to answer the

1624
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,719
question Chris you leaving

1625
01:16:35,719 --> 01:16:37,719
also would you able

1626
01:16:37,719 --> 01:16:40,560
to I I can fumble through on water but I

1627
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,679
think you're your specialist is to my

1628
01:16:42,679 --> 01:16:43,760
right

1629
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,189
[Music]

1630
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,719
H um we'll see what questions you have

1631
01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:52,199
yeah let's go through it and if we have

1632
01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:55,199
anything we'll just yes we'll let tell

1633
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:57,360
me abolutely tell me I'll give you an

1634
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,570
answer okay I apologize good luck

1635
01:17:00,570 --> 01:17:05,189
[Music]

1636
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:07,360
thanks this is still kind of on waist

1637
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,960
based on the

1638
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:14,679
um Mr um told us about the plans about

1639
01:17:14,679 --> 01:17:16,159
the bags Etc and then we got the email

1640
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,440
today we're going to be discussing um

1641
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:21,320
the email that was that was sent out

1642
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,920
from the discussing the email about the

1643
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,880
turn from yes I I don't have we we can

1644
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,280
discuss that when we have unfinished

1645
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,400
business next week yeah yes because yeah

1646
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,520
that's yes did you see it again yes so

1647
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,080
we we can address that um next week next

1648
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,199
Tuesday let's finish off working with

1649
01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:43,560
the department and go through whatever

1650
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,520
we have

1651
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,480
and process all time the budget review

1652
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:52,360
let's move to water and let separate

1653
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:58,629
time

1654
01:17:58,639 --> 01:18:04,390
so you can go through the revenue

1655
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,880
please there's not really much to say

1656
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,480
about the revenue we didn't increase any

1657
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:15,639
fe uh I believe that um some of the uh

1658
01:18:15,639 --> 01:18:18,000
properties in and out of the city

1659
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,360
depending on the year increase decree

1660
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,360
that's how what you're seeing in the

1661
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,159
differences markal differences in the

1662
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:25,440
revenue

1663
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:28,000
um throughout the water budget other

1664
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:34,280
than that um absolutely the same

1665
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,159
zero oh yes we're also added some

1666
01:18:37,159 --> 01:18:43,800
appropriated fund balance $61,900

1667
01:18:43,810 --> 01:18:54,910
[Music]

1668
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,480
moving line FX2 410 we're zeroing it out

1669
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,280
because there's no one it's at 5,000

1670
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,719
because there's um that property is not

1671
01:19:03,719 --> 01:19:07,440
rented it's not rented uh I I you know

1672
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:10,440
my talk PA you think we get some of for

1673
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,639
six or something go I don't goes maybe

1674
01:19:13,639 --> 01:19:16,800
I'm not running it out not running not

1675
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,440
back council with that requires upgrades

1676
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:24,280
it cost more money and not going to go

1677
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,629
down that

1678
01:19:27,639 --> 01:19:29,000
so we're taking that amount out of the

1679
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,520
budget

1680
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,350
y

1681
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,070
other be one of

1682
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:41,910
[Music]

1683
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,800
Chang any additional question on what go

1684
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,600
ahead please the Met water cells outside

1685
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,960
City the 2022 act Rue line please

1686
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:54,239
correct me if I'm wrong but it seems a

1687
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:55,719
lot Clos certain I don't understand the

1688
01:19:55,719 --> 01:19:58,000
reason why but as you can see throughout

1689
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,639
the years AC high has all but

1690
01:20:01,639 --> 01:20:05,320
doubled um so wanted to ensure that

1691
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,920
we're not just attributing all of the

1692
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,600
increases to our city residents

1693
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,120
especially if external residents are

1694
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,639
still equally benefiting from the same

1695
01:20:13,639 --> 01:20:16,199
resource so that's my question is just

1696
01:20:16,199 --> 01:20:17,960
what would be the process ially speaking

1697
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,800
if we're interested increasing that line

1698
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,639
for outside actually we did increase it

1699
01:20:23,639 --> 01:20:26,120
last year uh but and you have to speak

1700
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,360
to PA about that because he he the very

1701
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:30,820
correct

1702
01:20:30,820 --> 01:20:32,040
[Music]

1703
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,199
answer well these some of those are

1704
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:36,800
would be

1705
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,480
Beyond public session some subject to

1706
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,800
negotiation with some of our sister

1707
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,400
communities

1708
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,280
or some

1709
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,760
are work with some are less than good to

1710
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,390
work

1711
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,320
with we've done a proposal years ago go

1712
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,320
hit SK in there big debate over water

1713
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,280
City could provide 100% of their water a

1714
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,679
lot less than what they're charge in

1715
01:21:02,679 --> 01:21:03,639
their

1716
01:21:03,639 --> 01:21:06,400
residents I'm not any negotiations with

1717
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,600
them at this point to actually undertake

1718
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,960
that but uh there are times when we

1719
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,480
provide 100% of the water for unit we

1720
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:17,480
have the capacity to do

1721
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:21,840
that most times it's more of a split

1722
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,800
depending on their capacity out of their

1723
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,669
Wells

1724
01:21:26,679 --> 01:21:27,560
thank

1725
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,120
you any other question on this water

1726
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,960
section have pleas um on the on an um an

1727
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,840
expense line um the reservoir source of

1728
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,199
is that the same Reservoir sour of um

1729
01:21:42,199 --> 01:21:45,990
expense line

1730
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,920
fx8320 um 458 Landscaping it's under the

1731
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,960
reservoir and I was just wondering what

1732
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:59,480
was included in that line cuz that is you know a big jump we're going

1733
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:03,040
from um 14,000 to

1734
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,000
30,600 Paul used to mow the grass he's

1735
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,360
not there he's not o the grass ah so

1736
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,480
that's we're paying okay thank

1737
01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:14,639
you don't we just have another St um

1738
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:16,360
somebody else from the city just go M

1739
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,800
the grass wouldn't it just be another

1740
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,080
staff member that Ms other properties

1741
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,560
that we have but I think we weren't

1742
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,080
paying we weren't paying all to do the

1743
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,800
work so it's an additional work but I am

1744
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,440
looking at that within

1745
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:33,320
the stack

1746
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,280
see just balance our resources out we

1747
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,840
get complaints where we're not going to

1748
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,600
grass and Parks some of the islands and

1749
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,760
other sours to keep up with

1750
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,830
the overall

1751
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,120
demand so does that I'm not clear does

1752
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,400
that mean that snap crew doesn't

1753
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,679
wouldn't be doing that no right now the

1754
01:22:53,679 --> 01:22:56,120
proposal is is to have an outside vendor

1755
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,440
from the door it which has been done for

1756
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,600
the

1757
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:06,870
last 6 weeks 8

1758
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,440
weeks and then go ahead 83 am I still in

1759
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:12,400
the same section oh no now I'm in

1760
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,560
pumping do you want me to ask a question

1761
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,520
or no go ahead let hold okay

1762
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,080
8321 425 light power gas I wasn't I mean

1763
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,840
it's a it's a big increase but I just

1764
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,960
assumed it was probably increases in gas

1765
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,800
and you know lighting but I wasn't

1766
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:36,280
sure um page eight sorry page four light

1767
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:44,159
yes you know we're adding fa is it

1768
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:46,760
because of other pumping

1769
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,440
station pumping stations add new water

1770
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:51,800
ws and it's also not you know it's also

1771
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,800
for electric and U gas also yeah so it's

1772
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,679
just the the increases that we're all

1773
01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:00,679
facing in those in those areas but okay

1774
01:24:00,679 --> 01:24:01,679
so

1775
01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:07,760
the electric cost gas cost correct oh

1776
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,880
yeah I mean I only there's nothing we

1777
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,719
can do about it is basically what what

1778
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:14,360
I'm thinking but hope for a better

1779
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:18,870
contract next

1780
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,960
time any other question on Water Well in

1781
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,040
that things that we're trying to do we

1782
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,880
had the proposal to uh sell the one lot

1783
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,960
in reram for half a million dollars

1784
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,719
that's been on hold because rather than

1785
01:24:35,719 --> 01:24:38,710
put in place a moratorium

1786
01:24:38,710 --> 01:24:39,920
[Music]

1787
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:44,520
for solar fields and battery storage we

1788
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,600
have adjacent property there we're still

1789
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,800
looking uh the option of putting

1790
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,320
solar

1791
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:58,520
panels under two models one uh you put

1792
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,320
the panels in generate the electricity

1793
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,600
and sell it back to National Grid the

1794
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,639
other one would be because of our high

1795
01:25:05,639 --> 01:25:10,000
demand for those uh pumps at the well we

1796
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,520
would just use the electricity right on

1797
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,560
sight uh but with solar again it's

1798
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,960
a uh condition upon the time of

1799
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,840
day the pumps

1800
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:28,550
run to very 24 hours a

1801
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,000
day you would never have full capacity

1802
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:38,990
of so

1803
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,080
there just want to let you know too

1804
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,119
currently we're at

1805
01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:45,000
$89,000 per

1806
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,600
year for electric yeah I have

1807
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,639
that yeah I saw

1808
01:25:52,639 --> 01:26:00,040
that yep

1809
01:26:00,050 --> 01:26:02,159
[Music]

1810
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:07,790
we'll move to

1811
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:19,230
Su from the

1812
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:24,550
[Music]

1813
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,960
okay so the sewer fund it's only a 5.5%

1814
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,600
increase 24 adopted to the proposed 2025

1815
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,320
there's no increases in the

1816
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,760
flat sewer

1817
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,119
rates um basically the same thing as the

1818
01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:41,639
water um depending on what comes online

1819
01:26:41,639 --> 01:26:45,400
go offline um we are using appropriate

1820
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,590
debt reserves of

1821
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,440
$69,000 other than

1822
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,239
[Music]

1823
01:26:53,239 --> 01:27:18,950
that for

1824
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:25,750
[Music]

1825
01:27:25,760 --> 01:28:14,430
if you have a question go ahead please

1826
01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:16,239
I was to call you I I just know that

1827
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:18,320
Paul probably want to let you know that

1828
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,679
the sludge hauling and grit yeah because

1829
01:28:21,679 --> 01:28:25,520
just the contract has increased

1830
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,040
going up to 150 something dollar a know

1831
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,080
you been complained so going from

1832
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,080
1,700 1950 I know that it's a big point

1833
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,600
of contention for them you know I know

1834
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,159
he's trying to work hard to try to get

1835
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:41,840
better deals all the time it's not 1700

1836
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,639
1.7 to 1.97 to

1837
01:28:45,639 --> 01:28:48,040
1.9 if I know you would want to talk

1838
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,679
about that so that's a question you guys

1839
01:28:50,679 --> 01:28:53,040
can ask when it comes back to again yeah

1840
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,679
you want to summarize on the

1841
01:28:54,679 --> 01:28:58,590
benefits

1842
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,600
uh and the benefits uh uh pretty much

1843
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,880
all the same from last year the biggest

1844
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,480
increas is uh uh again like we said last

1845
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:10,960
year was U we knew this was going to

1846
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,840
happen was for Debt Service and uh

1847
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,040
Health uh but you know because you know

1848
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,880
we had our plan to increase our the

1849
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,239
rates from last year you know that's why

1850
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:30,109
we have to rate this year

1851
01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:32,719
questions yes yeah under the workers

1852
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:35,950
comp Medical

1853
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:41,080
Services 2023 was at 11,000 and 2024 50

1854
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,280
and went back down by

1855
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,320
50 um yeah what had what had happened

1856
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,950
was uh

1857
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,560
in23 was someone who got and you

1858
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,960
contining the services so we knew it was

1859
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,639
going to increase and now uh everybody

1860
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:01,639
seems to do good so we're keeping it at

1861
01:30:01,639 --> 01:30:03,600
looking at lower it you know cuz you

1862
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,119
know there's really not it's not really

1863
01:30:05,119 --> 01:30:08,159
a huge uh number of people so if one guy

1864
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:14,350
gets hurt it's will cause

1865
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,120
the any other

1866
01:30:18,130 --> 01:30:22,750
[Music]

1867
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,960
questions got

1868
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,960
water and SE is definitely Paul's

1869
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,480
Forte General general service questions

1870
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,880
I can answer all that if for some reason

1871
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,840
not satisfi we can uh we can have him um

1872
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,960
be available either Friday or

1873
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,400
Tuesday so kind of answer any additional

1874
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,119
questions we may

1875
01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:46,360
have chrisan you do Capital yes I was

1876
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,880
going to roll capital

1877
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,189
and capital straight forward

1878
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:57,629
I

1879
01:30:57,639 --> 01:31:00,950
don't we can share that one I'm going

1880
01:31:00,950 --> 01:31:10,629
[Music]

1881
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:14,800
to it's a poli collection it's proposals

1882
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,680
for two rear

1883
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,910
[Music]

1884
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,520
loers Parts proper yes yeah start from

1885
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:25,760
the top

1886
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:30,040
and uh 2f 350 regular pickups with plows

1887
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:34,239
uh crew cab with the plow and two golf

1888
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:38,679
carts um one of our golf carts was uh

1889
01:31:38,679 --> 01:31:41,400
was crashed uh this year the other one

1890
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:45,119
is in very poor shape it's how um our

1891
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:51,199
staff get moves along Central Park and gets from one side to the other um

1892
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:54,520
the fleet pickups are are needed uh um

1893
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,080
especially our our our plowing abilities

1894
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,960
for our Parks they have a lot of Aging

1895
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,600
vehicles in our waste collection um Paul

1896
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,719
had also put in for two rear load of

1897
01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:11,360
Packers um I I believe this is an

1898
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,440
excellent investment to continue to uh

1899
01:32:14,440 --> 01:32:17,719
improve and replace these repun these

1900
01:32:17,719 --> 01:32:20,880
trucks on a yearly basis uh taking a

1901
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,520
couple of these in uh I remember a few

1902
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,639
years back three or four years back you

1903
01:32:25,639 --> 01:32:28,239
would put four in and now we're down to

1904
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,119
the point where we can start maintaining

1905
01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:35,480
at a a two truck level I think that's an ongoing budgeting

1906
01:32:35,480 --> 01:32:37,960
thing no onment really quickly does that

1907
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,239
increase the number of trucks you're

1908
01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:41,159
able to put out a daily or does that

1909
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:43,520
ensure that all the trucks are in a good

1910
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,880
maintenance like standard it is it is

1911
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,719
for more of a maintenance Factor um we

1912
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:50,960
see uh with the the older trucks when

1913
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,560
they break down uh there's a cost to

1914
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,639
Main maintain those and a lot of those

1915
01:32:55,639 --> 01:32:57,920
have to be sent out for for a lot of the

1916
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:58,960
larger

1917
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,639
issues um so we' be sending uh uh

1918
01:33:02,639 --> 01:33:06,520
usually it's 17 trucks going out daily

1919
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,159
and um it depends that that varies a

1920
01:33:09,159 --> 01:33:12,159
little bit uh depending on uh the time

1921
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:17,239
of year for U yard waste and recycling

1922
01:33:17,239 --> 01:33:19,679
it it's heavier sometimes so we do put

1923
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,560
out some more but we we try to put a

1924
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,280
constant number out daily

1925
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,520
thank next one be

1926
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,950
sweet Street Department

1927
01:33:29,950 --> 01:33:32,119
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1928
01:33:32,119 --> 01:33:37,400
y uh two six wheel uh dump trucks with

1929
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,280
plow and spreader and then uh six whe

1930
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,440
dump truck with front plow uh Wing

1931
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:44,840
blades and a salt and

1932
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:51,159
spreader um our plow trucks are aging I believe

1933
01:33:51,159 --> 01:33:55,280
um they are 06s that we're

1934
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,560
replacing

1935
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:06,080
04 104 Paul 18y old 18 yeah yeah they're

1936
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,199
um as they were coming in last year they

1937
01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:12,040
were coming in on the recer um they

1938
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,119
there wasn't a storm that we didn't have

1939
01:34:14,119 --> 01:34:17,119
breakdowns with our CL fet

1940
01:34:17,119 --> 01:34:19,679
um this is why we put them trying to

1941
01:34:19,679 --> 01:34:21,960
replace it do you still run two people

1942
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,910
on a wing truck or no one too

1943
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:35,050
yeah any question on these Capital

1944
01:34:35,060 --> 01:34:38,669
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1945
01:34:38,679 --> 01:34:40,560
items Water and

1946
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,760
Sewer you have water and sewer if you

1947
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,030
can

1948
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,480
just again I'll I I'll refer to fall I

1949
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:53,159
can go through this and uh um I I have

1950
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:54,800
very little involvement in water and

1951
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,320
sewer

1952
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,880
um sewer you know I deal with these guys

1953
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,770
but he he uh

1954
01:35:02,770 --> 01:35:04,480
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1955
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:06,840
he

1956
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,040
question let's go them you have question

1957
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,520
like well field uh is for the two

1958
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,239
existing Wells that want to revelop to

1959
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,840
with the wells that are there uh where

1960
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,970
know

1961
01:35:19,970 --> 01:35:22,119
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1962
01:35:22,119 --> 01:35:25,239
where Road other Wells and then the

1963
01:35:25,239 --> 01:35:27,440
water district repairs and improvements

1964
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:28,400
uh

1965
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,440
350,000 that's for you know any

1966
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:33,280
Improvement that they doing on the water

1967
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,360
line throughout the city they need a van

1968
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,679
for the plumber and all these were going

1969
01:35:38,679 --> 01:35:41,199
to be using a capital reserves uh so

1970
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:43,199
we're not borrowing any money for

1971
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:46,600
that and the sh this this is where you

1972
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,480
know it's you know power you but I just

1973
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:52,480
want to make one thing that there's a

1974
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,159
Wastewater replac bar screen designed

1975
01:35:55,159 --> 01:36:01,440
only for like a million dollars uh and we put some as on the bottom say

1976
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:04,560
that that is going to determine what the

1977
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,679
cost is going to be

1978
01:36:06,679 --> 01:36:09,960
but million $7 million more so just want

1979
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:14,800
to let you guys know that uh uh the

1980
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,520
utility cabs the truck and the was

1981
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,520
treatment equipment replacement we're

1982
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,800
going to be using the capital reserves

1983
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,480
and then we're going to borrow money for

1984
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,560
the the collection system repairs and

1985
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,840
Improvement uh the digestor which is

1986
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,400
he'll have to explain that to you

1987
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,679
because that's a a bit a quite a quite

1988
01:36:34,679 --> 01:36:37,280
St and then

1989
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,840
again I just want to get out that so so

1990
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,800
that when you see them it put you your

1991
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,520
mind that have to ask them about this

1992
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:49,520
stuff yeah goad please maybe for the mayor or

1993
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,440
Anthony so the survey we got on the

1994
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,119
water you know what our water

1995
01:36:54,119 --> 01:36:56,960
is that do we are is the city

1996
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,159
responsible for replacing anything from

1997
01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:01,560
the any part of

1998
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,560
that and where would that money come

1999
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:04,639
from if we

2000
01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:07,040
are there are scenarios where we would

2001
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,040
be responsible at this point we're doing

2002
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,000
the survey looking to line up for

2003
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,719
federal and state money that's going to

2004
01:37:13,719 --> 01:37:16,119
be available for that so I'm not at this

2005
01:37:16,119 --> 01:37:18,639
point assuming that there's going to be

2006
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:21,679
any expenditure of local

2007
01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:24,220
dollars for any of those

2008
01:37:24,220 --> 01:37:25,560
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2009
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remediations yeah Paul mentioned that to

2010
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:33,199
us possibility that stand look into

2011
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:35,400
there there is grant funding uh for

2012
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,480
talking about they um replacement for

2013
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:40,760
the survey there's um there is grant

2014
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,880
money that's 100% reimbursable to the

2015
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,840
city and what I would ask the council do

2016
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,159
is when you're out with groups or

2017
01:37:47,159 --> 01:37:49,719
talking the individuals matter what

2018
01:37:49,719 --> 01:37:52,000
you're talking about remind people to

2019
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,000
fill out their Sur

2020
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,920
send it in so that we have a

2021
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,239
better inventory of what's in the field

2022
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,159
and have a better way to estimate some

2023
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:05,750
of those potential

2024
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,920
costs any other

2025
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,440
questions seeing none thank you um all

2026
01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:16,440
thank you Chris thank you everyone U any

2027
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:18,520
other business ofal finance I would like

2028
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,599
to reset Finance for Friday October 11

2029
01:38:21,599 --> 01:38:24,119
5:30 p.m. right here

2030
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one so moved second all in favor thank

2031
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you have a good night everyone thank you

2032
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:34,570
everyone

2033
01:38:34,580 --> 01:39:10,790
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2034
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I

2035
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2036
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Ian

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e for