personal benefit Clark as um Anthony
that went down from 56,000 to 55,000 is
that the person who had the job last
year was at a higher level okay and then
the person came in the middle of the
year and so she's just going up one step
there where she was but uh the person
that had the job before was making more
so yeah it's a C position so we started
at the great U step one whatever so this
is moving up to step two or three car
head thank you why any questions
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for Could you um I'm sorry you said
there was a person that did more gave
them a little more which which position
was that the
salary the bottom
of more more hours look
saying none thank you so much welcome
aboard I wish you all the best know
thank you very that was
e one more
question just when you
thought so the the Personnel benefits
Clos is that cdaa yes yes and so it's
gone up by
18800 to this but I thought that that we
were step that's a step so we're still
waiting for the contract correct yeah
really thank you thank you nice to meet
you all take
care all right we'll move to page one
May's mayor's office um sorry
manag page one may
off brief old the mayor's office 8 1210
total mayor's office increased by 2.2%
from 368,000 approximate
376,000
position in the mayor's office
anything so the 3% raises I put in for
management employees and the other items
are basically just carrying
existing have any questions no rise for
you would you make a try or
something well at some point we're going
to discuss that statute says one thing
the council does something else that's
my so we should we should discuss that
at some point in time next week what's
that in terms of
raises for the council and the May next
week I just brought it up as a topic
that we should consider next
week we'll we'll have more discussion on
that in terms of
May any question for the
mayor sting down thank you
yeah we'll move
into
Department say you still want to
wa um that's all right you given up
your that will
be
one page central Communication and then
we
have something to discuss under page 39
lightning that administrative expense I
have a please page 39 John is that what
you said page
16 16 at the bottom we have Central
Communications AG
1650 uh B also talking about Central
data processing um
a680 uh Central Communications increased
by 30% from 60,000 to 78,000 Central
Communications increased by 9 3 8% 6 763
835,000 and then will be talking about
his portion the street lighting for
smart
cityas yeah you want to highlight us on
anything on the um parment central
Communication Y and your Staffing
yeah yeah so this year we have no uh
still we have no fing attack when sec
ATT that is very good thing so we have
to be proud about that we're educating
the employees you know twice a year try
to do it by by early you know so we do
spring one in fall and by doing that we
had doing for like 2 years now we can
see some you know uh change in there we
can be good so security awareness
proficiency assessment if you see this
score compared to the industry Benchmark
they are at 6 4% here at 67% so at least
that's better and uh before I was
checking those fishing thing and the our
score account average f porn was like 4%
around now it is 2.7% so that
is we want to be zero but at least you
know this big change I see in there and
uh I really want to thank you guys for
providing me the capital funding last
year for the sery on this stories we
were able to complete that um by may I
guess yes so that we did on time so
because our server were going end up
life cies were get going end up life so
that that we
accomplished uh employee wise I have one
new employee we hired couple months back
and I'm trying to fill one more position
so like we have a lot in our plate to do
things around and uh from the Smart City side we have
360 access points around the city and uh
many cameras and in expansion John is
playing still playing very good role in
there so he's helping us even become
after through it but that's a big
help I'm going to try to be proactive so
you have to like always be you know
alert on what is going on
network in terms of software and
Hardware how are you with that
especially Hardware replacing all the
old equipments yeah so uh this Windows
uh U Windows 11 what happens is that
have the GPM is called in the bias and
old machine does not accept Windows 11
because of that so there is you know I
found some work around you can still do
that but if Microsoft you know knows one
day and then send up dates then then we
all G so we don't know in that situation
so uh I give list to D back how many
machines we have so we have still until
October 2025 to upgrade those machines
to 2011 so we're going phase wise I
think right byy couple this year if you
have Bud then in
2025 but even if you let's say if you
are not
100% then in 2026 early 2026 we can do
pretty much all so all machine will be
up
toate and Hardware are pretty pretty
good we're keeping like not the Legacy
software there's not much you know maybe
one or two in clerk Department which is
still um you know
not and flex you s I'm not sure who
support that like that we that's all the
old you have a cost did you do a cost
analysis on all the equipment to replace
uh yes I think I get the
numbers yeah the numbers I think it was
like 60 computers we had to replace
desktops and the cost is like pretty
much like 7800
each
but yeah but depending on you know like
you don't have to do all at a time you
know like the machine is still good you
can next year you can f out those
machines but for security reason would
you recommend us doing it yeah SEC we do
it until 2025 October so we have here
it's $60,000
to put us out of
risk yeah that's why I'm trying to get
you don't want to put yourself out at
risk because something coming out there
and one or two equipment they can buy
pass it into into your ccle yeah yeah
definitely thank you so that's something
we might want to consider when we start
our you John you're were saying that the
difference is somewhere around $60,000
and you're saying that this yeah High
number there about 6,000 can be less
you're saying this is like this a
priority yeah you should consider that
we restarting the process the process is
already in the works
right but we should fund whatever
remaining and just complet it and that
wasn't part of last
year's no I don't think so some some of yes some well I'm saying we've
been kind of chipping away at it and uh
and and also too you got to remember the
capacity these guys have to so even you
buy all tomorrow we can't put in the
next
day it will take a couple months to get
you know get out L more running so
that's something we should have the come
to I mean I wonder though are some of
the computers out of the um 60 um are
some of the computers that not needing
to be replaced I mean so this 60
computer needs to be reped oh okay 60 is
the number okay okay thank you they're
not
compatible
software the most advanced level of the
software and for the cyber security you
know Hardware is part of it but it's
continual
education of employees just to be cent
of the
emails yeah phone calls text messages
other things that com in you're
designing to compromise Z Anthony can
you share the cost to us please excuse
me the cost for the for the
60
60700 weig 800 I think was
like some cabling another things go with
it yeah you're going to have we figured
50,000 right or
60,000 fig th000 a piece I was trying to
get away with it at 800 but he
the you just
table I'm really thankful for you guys
for the great leadership you know mayor
and Council for supporting all these
Technologies you know you know because
uh you know this is the ransom where I
have just this from sofos if you read it
you know like the The Ransom price
increased 500 times yeah so so in 2023
it was like 1 million they will ask you
now they're asking 5
million and average cost of if you get
rans somewhere to get all these lawyers
different things to fix everything you
know like public uh reputation things
like that is 2.7 million AR spending who
got it so we have to keep that in mind
all the
time if the council has any other
detailed questions on
that won't have that addressed in public
session so that just some of the
protocols we use and some of the things
that are in place have to be done in
executive
session so that's something we should
consider because we need to protect
ourselves cyber security is not e thing
I know Mia and you have been working
really hard on protecting the
city so we want we at a council want to
provide Power of support yeah sure
appreciate that you should be waiting
any other question go
ahead which one I'll just say on a
personal note I find the trainings very valuable so um and I have learned a
lot and it definitely has helped me um
be more aware of um cyber security at
home and and with the work that I do so
I appreciate that yeah most of the time
70% of time it is a human error in this
all these cases so we have to the one
who is you know all these things we have
to
educate I have a question regarding a
16548 the phone expense um it's it's
increased so what happens is uh we pay
like uh u 2 years at a time okay because
uh to get some discount bigger discount
we pay annually like left so you could
see uh 2023 that was 2024
2025 okay thank
you any other question for this section
well this is it's about the smart city
but I guess it's really a funding uh
because so how much is left in in where
we have with the smart
cities which one smart C smart C I'm
going I'm going to turn I just want to
complete this and I will turn to this U
page page 39 okay he said was on page 39 yes any other question on this
section well my my question was about
the um fees for services line but it it
was answered here by um either ban or or
Derek and Anthony but um I was wondering
about the um what was included in that
line it's
16844 but I see it was the fees for
various um software packages so I just
wanted to let everybody know that other
than software packaging there anything
else service line so F service line um
yeah I think I want to add I think a GIS
software what we're doing is different
department with chicking and they'll do
uh you know give us like the cost is
like 23 grand every year almost so
engineering Police Department
development they will ship in some money
and do it this year also police
department they have give us big chunk
on their ground and development like big
CH so that's true we we're true but I
think next year I ask the chief did you
put any money and I was confused like
who is putting money on that right in
budget and uh seems like Police
Department put it like 8 Grand something
rest 16 Grand I I think I want include
somewhere some if other
department 16k we should check and make
sure it's in the police department is
what you're saying the police department
8 Grand oh put 8 Grand yeah but if
nobody put in the rest of it then I want
to put in my
somewhere okay any other question seeing
on we'll move to page 39 and that's
under Street lighting and a 5182 402
administrative expense there was a
question there and we need a a breakdown
on the
71 so I'll go from
so uh this 20 57 Grand uh which you see
in there that is for the smart uh smart
net
renewal this we didn't pay until last
year what happened was when we bought a
product the industrial product it comes
with 5 year of warranty and 5 year of
licenses in there so we are good until
last year this year we had to renew and
this year we found money uh from some
other uh accounts and for this year we
are good but uh I think we have to get
uh if this in next year we have to uh
get this money how much is that 57 Grand
oh 57 yeah so that is part of the
710 uh
51824 yes yeah that's part of that so
I'm just going line by line here so to
clarify these things and uh uh the smart
uh the other one is 35 Grand that is
also the license fee so other one of the
smart net was like if something breaks
they can fix it and replacement warranty
kind of thing but 35 Grand is a license
cost and U so I did like a lot of
negotiation with the companies and uh we
actually switch our licensing from alart
licensing to the Enterprise agreement
and they gave us quite a lot of discount
from that so um it was like 2 three
months of process for me to negotiate
with the vendors to give us good
pricing and other one is also 5600 is
also licensing 5600
yes uh yeah it's
here uh so I'm I'm just uh recking it
part so go ahead please okay and uh this
120 we had last year which is still 120
for the genetic U 120
12000 new number which you see here is
uh 460,000 this is uh this you didn't
have to
do uh before this is the first year
coming up because we have this with last
we have this R demo project going on
which is expired now so we have to
maintain all this did for the Smart City
that's why this uh cost is 460 in
here so it's a
main their licensing and data and all
those fees over Korea did you say that
was a nice I think is that what you
said oh National Grid okay
sorry okay and uh two more things here
uh so um one is that our video server is
going to end up live next year around
February so I want to get the replace
that server with the new hardware and
new uh storage in there so that is
costing us with the license is like 32
uh
45 I think adding those Mak it same time
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yeah you missing you know what we should
do we should uh copy that list yeah I
was ask you that share that section
alone yeah so that we
have go ahead please so um this is all
shown up it's administrative expense
when it sounds really like a lot of its
equipment and contracts is there a
reason that it's shown like that as
opposed to because administrative people
think that you immediately go to
somebody's getting paid individual is
getting paid as opposed to a company or buying supplies so I was just
wondering if there's a reason that's
shown like that as opposed to showing it
as just the way it I think we just kep
the
same just the problems this year
grown cion
yeah would it be wise to move that under
it department since it's it related
stuff just it Department yeah but it's it's under street stre it's out in
the field so it's should be in there
most of stuff happens how feel
right unless you you want to do a 4 402a
say equipment or license
software
equipment and administr so you can
description change so he doesn't you
look at it administrative expense it's
not really administrative
expense yeah it would be helpful if you
can do that
easy
yeah any question for go ahead please so
it's about the smart so is this coming
out of smart City no this
is all right so do
we what is our balance there and I guess
I I guess trying to figure out how what
part of lighting you were getting out of
smart cities thought that was part of
it actually paying for the things smart
city is actually still paying for
instulation of fiber and other stuff
that was finishing throughout the city
that's what the Smart City when C
balance that's what we're doing with
that this is actually like the light
power and gas with the lights that's
actually the uh Power
whatever the question was what is the
balance
SM oh he's he does have he just put it
down to answer the question
okay yeah pleas this this is separate
this is yeah
so it would it would be helpful let's
add a line and put that away from
administrative anything in
administrative line leave it in there
and just move it out okay change the
title all right yeah thank any other
question for
about anything else you're missing you
want to highlight to us that is
not that's confidential
yeah don't get ENT that we're not
supposed to
be yeah so I was going to if you have
question or anything I I was going to
break down on what services and things
like that but you know I
think you don't want to tell the public
what you're doing you know getting go
right
yeah any other questions all right thank
you so much appreciate all you're doing
keep up good work thank you very much
you want to go now or you want to
pass take here with us and we'll go and
complete our hearing
sure all right so let's see l
all Department P
seven
sorry
Start has one one word at the bottom of
page
seven I was lost trying toig something I
found it on the
bottom top of
page depart
842 the total law office inre by 1.9%
from 98,000 to 970,000
approximately so ask
just give us a summary briefing what's
happening in Department you know sure
so this year um we so we are a revenue
generating Department we've closed this
year on 61 properties for a total of
1,334
$581 we filed the LZ appendant for the
next foreclosure with 430 properties on
it 45 have redeemed so far we're
planning to file the Foreclosure
petition in the next two weeks in
conjunction with the police department
we've set up the school bus ticket
program it has issued
$4,850 tickets at
$250 so far this year potential
estimated revenue on such would be about
400
,000 we have um we have a first court
date for that scheduled on Friday for
people who are contesting their
tiets uh We've set up a process to
enforce the public nuisance Ordinance
one has successfully been prosecuted
three more are in the works we've done
all of this while still Prosecuting code
violations drafting legislation
defending the city in litigation and
providing legal advice with the council
the mayor and the partner
heads so in terms of our budget um we
have switched it up a little bit in
terms of attorney Staffing for next year
so there is a line for myself for the
Corporation Council there is a line for
a full-time assistant Corporation
Council then we have replaced the
deputy with and the full-time assistant
with four part-time assistant
corporation councils which are listed
under the
perum object
121 we have we also have budgeted 55,000
for uh law clerks and other
assistants also cover if any of the
assistant assistant Corporation councils
go above the number of hours that we
originally expected and then going back
up um our records access officer
um code enforcement specialist
confidential secretary ips3 uh those
positions are been standing in the
department um there has been I believe a
3% raise applied to my salary and to
confidential secretary for both
management employees the others are um
our Union and we'll find out what
they're paid exactly once their contract
is finalized
um in terms of other
expenses um we budgeted 25,000 for
postage 2200 for administrative
expenses 15,000 for advertising 15,000
for fees for services uh travel and
conferences that's uh that's
for label proba to be switched up a
little bit um that is for professional
development conferences as well as um
the bar registrations of myself and
other full-time assistant preparation
Council
um um outside legal services so we hire
outside Council
85,000 uh litigation support
35,000 supplies 4500 maintenance
agreements
5,000 title searches 70,000 we do that
as part of the foreclosure process the
title searches
so any questions yeah
so why are you opting for part time
rather than
fulltime um system we have found that
hiring um part-time we're able to get
much more experienced people so we're
getting better bang for our
bu thank you go ahead please so so I see
that
like there's like 88 they're getting
like 65,000 for the part for the
part-time um corporate all well two of
them are getting 65 one's getting 48 so
this is like increasing the cost overall
because the deputy Corporation
Council if you even take if you divide
the salary in half you're still pay more
by two
assistance the salary that you're taking
out in addition to the other
two um I'm sorry so you're saying you my
understanding is you said that you took
out the deputy right at
106 yeah and then uh added four parttime
four part time to cover that plus
another assistant plus a full-time
assistant fulltime assistant 82 and
106
28 180 188 we decrease the per DM so if
you look at 2024 there was 95,000
this year
budgeted or yeah so it's kind
of you've taken that out we've taken
that down to
55,000 so assistant so part-time people
are always perum is my understanding so
that's why they're listed um below perum
salary but if you look at last year they
had 95,000 in perum we in in general
prium so we have 55,000 basically start
some other and these other
numbers would have normally been up
here but it does
it it winds up being relatively neutral
okay I mean if we look at the bottom
line um actually your overall total for
your department is down um like like
close to
20 I was asked to make Cuts so why made
them
I want to say too even though they're
saying they don't get a salary of 65,000
part time to get paid by whatever they
work that's the max they can so that's
up to
65,000 cut
M can you cut them
off sometimes some guys 12 hours 15s
sometimes 20 you know so
um yeah I mean
we they're going on average now because
they are getting the ones that work by
the
hour uh they're getting paid less when
they work less than the number of hours
and more they so I'm going have to keep
an eye on the Total Lines
yeah have go ahead I think it's I mean
it seems like an interesting strategy
because you probably can bring in
different levels of expertise I mean
different um what am I trying to say
like different categories of expertise I
don't know the legal uh term but you
know so you might have
real estate you might have you know I I
don't know your work specifically but um
I looked at that and thought well that's
kind of cool that you can kind of um
handpick like different areas of
expertise um plus of course no benefits
so uh they don't get any benefits right
three of them do not get benefits one of
them does oh out of the part times yeah
but uh they don't the only benefits he
gets
is retirement
one of the part time does get benefits
but three
don't don't call don't they don't get
like medical stuff like that think he's
just in the retirement system that's all
which is required Social Security also
yeah any other
question go ahead please so just in
terms of hierarchy so the Corporation
Council is first with the next not be
Deputy or is it associate Corporation
Council um so the Corporation Council
will be at the top of the hierarchy and
then there are five assistant
Corporation councils if there was a
deputy would be the deputy fall next or
the depy would fall next yeah than
you any other
questions anything else you want I do
kind have a question this this just made
it C
so um so you're the fulltime offic
Corporation Council then we have the
assistant Corporation councel absent a
deputy Corporation councel and let's say
you're on vacation or your what at long
term so then who becomes that person
that is like kind of the law department
overall the skill set
for Gus Divine
Mission it could be part
time we work as a team part time here
and then Part Time Corporation
Council we work as a team so it could be
it depends on what the question is the
question is is who is like overall what
the question is coming up where you have
to answer it so whose expertise would
you call it oh okay so you're not what
is my question question
okay thank you ma'am
are we missing anything no I mean you're
more than welcome to add if you
like
yourself thank you so much thank you and
your team for all you doing for the city
thank you all right so you can have to
see there like um we'll go back to page
three no page two
sorry right yeah page
two Finance Administration
and we'll work our way down and close
Finance
Administration um the finance
Administration increased by
3.44% from 397,000 to
58,000 as you can see the increase is
due to the finance salary
increasing uh toct industry average
local p district uh the next um increase
is due to a retirement that will come in
2025
noing that up well since you since you
mentioned that um I noticed people asked
the councel for you know pay rais I
would consider not
reing 15% that's that's a serious
consideration Mak of
that okay and think about that sorry I'm just want to talk about the
reasons why the increase for both uh if uh if I if I were to leave and and we
need the opportunity to fill the
position deputy and and the
uh commissioner uh you we qualified
people and and the way to do it is is is
by salary to get qualified people if you
seen you read it in the paper like the
to of this commun uh there control which is a town of to 15,000 people
their controllers 142,000 a year uh the
town of uh the town of reram is 150,000
for their controller and uh city of Troy
which is also small house is 150,000 so
what I'm saying is these numbers we
trying to reflect is is toh to get the
uh you can need proper and educated and
experienced people uh in this position
uh and it's
and that that is why we requested these
raises and
salaries
um Finance Administration that be
complete oh go ahead please on finance
ad so it's kind of a two-part question
it's in this and the next but there was
a reduction in the traveling conferences
in this section in the problem section
so I don't know if that's
or we decided usually set two for each
department this year we set one for
each cut
cutu we're looking to cut the budget
where we
can thank
you if those travel confer training is
necessary why cut it we S one set two
comes back what we usually do we have
two people going come back have them
speak to our departments this time we're
just going to have one you know yeah but
you don't have a budget for
the oh yeah oh for on 1310 the reason is
because uh two free LIC two
Li one for
great any other
question see none we'll move into
accounts and disbursement page
three dispersements
a1315 um the total dispersements
increased by
4.10% 30,000
5,914 um the increase see is uh willing
to promote our Junior accountant to
accountant he's working really hard um
he's definitely a great to the team so
we uh it's another you know we want
retain good employees within the city um
other than that majority of this um
department has St to
in
questions see none we'll move to
page
177 on alloc
insurance right at the bottom of P
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17
overon oh sorry sorry I miss that
yeah yeah where are you what page right
on top of page um bottom of page 16 oh
yeah yeah yeah I had a hard time find
that one nothing
Chang yeah
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now
insance
yes page 17 thank you section is all
insurances FL Insurance general
liability insurance cber insurance Dr
insurance insurance that's
our come from
118% increase uh just due to the cost um
Mark
changes you know for general liability
stuff it's all part of insurance buiness
cost of things to repair and has
increased and you know we get got to pay
for
it any questions no seeing none we'll
move to page 18 judgments and claims and
undistributed expense a 1989 we did uh
have a mishap um we missed the senior
center 19 I believe coun Patrick noted
that so we are going adjust there and
we're going to be taking um 30,000 from
police and fire and our side of that and
mov into the senior for toal
6,000 time um so there's two portions
fire and police they have aror section
for OT uh we're going to be reducing
those by 000 respectively U and moving
that AR funding into senior center for a
toal
60,000 we we going through it today to
prepare for tonight we noticed it and I
think we sent the email to to you guys
to I I I did see that can may I just ask
a question so I did see that email but I
don't want to necessarily hurt the
police in fire overtime because I think
that we normally use all of that don't
we in a year
or increase
taxes no no we can take it
$60,000 it's not a big deal yeah exactly
it's not a big deal somewhere it's going
to come up from it's not to make a
difference all right rest of this uh
1989 contingency funds uh those are
mostly used for emergency demolitions um
or other
emergencies um you see the credit card
fees that's uh just Bas of the cost
Business Services uh CL he has parking
um and that's
it parking uh for merchant services
credit card um terminal so those are the
that come from
that department
do so I was what I ask so the fees
coming from parking and other service
not really related to paying taxes
correct
yeah fees are coming out of there Reven
going the revenue yeah any other
question on these two
sections seeing none will move to
page I don't think you touch the police
with board there is a there is a $15,000
there for for service we missed
it what page you page U
35
pleas
yes nothing's changed in this last year
um we're just looking at using
do you have the current actual PL
is, or
that's that's fine if you don't have it
that's fine
I I can find
it 3614 yeah
four uh the year to date is five
yeah go ahead please so of the 15,000 um
that's part of that for their training
to go to yes their conference well there
I know there's currently a conference
going on within the next month or
something so we wouldn't have gotten
those receipts yet because people are
paying out of their pocket and then
asking for re so we're going to see an
increase on that line
but not 15 but not over 15 I don't know
what it cost to the conference I have
like zero idea it
cost can we uh can we look into that
please there's any
outstanding is that like a annual type
of conference thing or yeah okay yes as
you can see in 2023 when they went spent
3400 like say all depends on how many go
any other question on that if we'll move
to page
um page
43 we
have service
40 a 651 we that same
as
expenses um we didn't change any of the
um fors
um
so the veterans and youth programs and
celebrations there's no
change any updates on the you
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program partnership that we have with
the school and other agency utilizing
this
allocation I don't have any updates but
put something together part next week be
a call yeah you don't mind the reason
why I want to make sure that we we are
funding this adequate to support our
school and any other agency that is
dealing with uh with this the type of
service
that may last year increased with
interns throughout all
City one question want to make sure yeah
I want to make sure it's very successful
we want to make sure we fund it
adequately go ahead please so out of the
150 were um there were you said there
were interns in City Hall and and were
there also does this include uh young
people who working other things outside
of City Hall I think we had some C yes
there were some parks I think Sam you
had one Finance it was uh
Finance
yes so yeah but from
school
she ex said the P was I'm sorry the pay
was not
no the P from the city
yeah they were
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1550 so when I said um outside of the
city I didn't mean just City Hall what I
meant is were there other opportunities
for employment through this youth
program where they were in businesses
other than the city no this money was
all spent supporting City operations
give disposure to City operations thank
you any other question
on if now will move to page
52 employee
benefits you want to discuss 875 today
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all right we got to go Friday
after
WR is is there not going to be a budget
22 or 21 where does it come out we
funded
it no there's been no expenses I
guess he's a volunteer Chris is a
volunteer yes okay I thought he was a
parttime employee was also a volunteer
yeah oh I didn't know that yeah we have
not funded way back in on this page here
2022 there were only $1,500 yeah since
2021
Bud
okay let's move to page
52 Anthony this all
yours toal employ benefits increased 8%
from 36.5 36.6 million to 39.6 million
most of that could be attributed to uh
U employee benefits for retirement um uh
as you can see our police uh and Fire
Work time benefits from 9.7 to 12
million this is Def again as I spoke to
you the other first day this directly
came from a state controller's office
and this is about funding the police and
fire and the new 384e for Poli
Department um the other big U increase
was uh from
uh Hospital medical insurance
um the biggest biggest increase went
from medical from 144 to
151 and the the Medicare reimbursement
from a million to a million to 200,000
increase uh this is just the cost of uh
you know what's happening in in the
medical business and Medicare we were
very conservative on this we actually
you
have person who specializes and it's to
look at it for us uh and we're we're
very like on the slim side of the margin
you know so if everything works out
we're not going to have a problem you
know if it doesn't you know we don't we
don't know all depends you know because
we're a self insurance so it really all
depends on one person because you know
we're really a small outfit if one
person gets very very sick uh you know
it can cost us you know a million dollars or so one of the biggest
things that we're working out with our
proac drug company is about specialized
U special specialized specialty drugs
which which has really in this last year
increased over
$700,000 cost you know
that's you know
hee TV what go the stuff fores believe
it or not is like you $30,000 a shot you
know
so that so that's that's the big thing
that we're watching we're working with
the not only with our COA company
they're working with the drug companies
for uh certificates
at yeah for rebates so that you know
that's where we're open uh
keep in this line at a tri Library we
were very lucky with our Medicare
Advantage plan last year we uh we got
into the plan with MP what we made to
guarantee us uh a certain rate for the
second year which which which they did
and as you can see it's costum sust it
did in
2023 when we had a different group um
but we only had a 6% increase but I
heard other agencies even close by had
close to 50% increase on
their on the reimbursement plan so we
were very lucky that we know already
that next year we're going have to start
looking for another plan and see we can
get another R again you know jez is
there one reason why we moved from y to
us care us is
MVP we're at yeah was pulling out of the
market
we went to MVP's us T so our our
retirees who live throughout the country
are covered okay got you and that's off
to uh me see what else have there next
page oh I'm sorry there any question on
this so let me just pull my questions
think I question I think I think M are
answer yeah you can ask
yeah I all right let's move to
page well I just want to I do want to
say that I think those discount programs
that might be an interesting like either
e newsletter or training um not training
but um something to get out to the
employees because I think there's so
many of them that's that's done behind
the scenes our we work with our drug
company that actually does that oh they
do do that they do that for us
okay more and more that's that's what's
keep helping us keep keep that line
going
but even with that the the cost doesn't
reflect the real true cost of the actual
medicine it's absolutely ridiculous oh
yeah it's
crazy country the world it's absolutely
disgusting we we actually in in our part
of our plan we have what's called canx
yeah which we get drugs that
unbelievably you know almost uh 30%
cheaper than the American said but
there's only they can only do a certain
um what's the word you call a certain
amount of drugs it can't be uh generic
so it's a very very small list very
small list and it saves US money but you
know uh it's just too small that it's
not to do drugs a lot of our employees
use you know we do we do have some Habit
to do two we save money on
it um I think the next big uh our next
big
U next
big is debt Debt Service page 54
that would be the end our Deb service
you know went from 7.6 million to 93
million U that was because of you know
uh
we banded more money last year now we
have two years Advance our if you see
our debt service for bonds and uh uh
other stuff that really actually gone
down for our serial bonds a big increase
was because we banded another year so
the cost of you know paying the interest
of those BS and principal you know is
went up
900,000 and also if you see the
installment purchases we purchased the
new fire truck so right now we have two
that we're paying off and so that's mil4
is that's is the increase
of and talking about Debt Service you
know our debt what we try to do is uh is
we're waiting to uh to see what the
interest rates go down we know it went
by went down half% what we do we work
with our fiscal advisers and we see what
the other municipalities are getting the
rates are that's when we decide uh if
we're going to B the bond we try
internally our our plan internally is
keep everything below
4% so really you know as you remember
the past few years we refinance all our
old Lins you know to below 4% so that
that's actually helping us in the long
run U right now our bands are right at
that limit they're like at 4
3.96 so that's why we're continue to
band if we see that the uh the interest
rates are go down then we we will bind
those bands you
know yeah it's always so you you got to
play the game to you know try to save
money absolutely yeah wait until the
interest rate um it's going to drop at
some point in time we we think it's
going to happen after the
election's going to be there I think
makes makes a
difference just wants to hear from I'm
not
pass talking about lead lead pipes in
the city thing I just read an article uh
I think it was last about uh President
Biden is actually putting out a plan yes
to to to you know fun that stuff so so
that's good news for us we're we're
about to do a survey we're going to have
funding to do the survey is coming up
Monday Tuesday when do the election so
we're hoping that if we can do that be
great for all of us it's a great help
and that was that's a question
everybody's asking who's going to pay
for this and that's why we need the
message all to the the community to let
them know that there is federal fund
available it's not available yet but
it's available but we just
have now you said it is available no
it's not it's going to be
available is pushing it we're looking at
Grand people to say yes they got to vot
it
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through any other question on this
section all right are we missing
anything there
think uh
commission we
everything yeah we did did Jud
that's so the major thing in this whole
budget as I mentioned the first day was
you know benefits uh
debt salaries
and and
retirement big
factors that's that's that's you got to
pay your employees you got to you know
you got to pay the benefits and that's
what the costs are and you know like if
you're a business you know you raise
your prices and government we try to
find the other revenues which which
we're doing with uh sales taxs with the
um cannabis with the bus stop with the
sell houses with you know do all this
but our other course you know you have
to raise fees and taxes and I'm sorry to
say that I don't want to do because I I
got to pay too you know but but that's just the thing of business you
know I mean you so living for your in
your house and you have to you have to
raise the fees and
taxes go ahead please just on a side
note I wasn't the one meeting with the
clerk's office and the dog licensing
fees that I think is fairly
straightforward to but I don't know see
if you covered it the
platform it's evolving would allow for
the registration of cats other
animals uh we're not looking to
licensing because that'll fill City Hall
people but people could put it into the
system put a picture there so that if
the fire department was going to the
house they'd know there's a cat there
that's great if the animal got lost or
something or other pets or other pets
too uh
but would look so it's not for free
there is a cost you type and maintain it
a little bit so it's you know 10 bucks
20 bucks and I don't know if that's been
included that's I want to say we need
something of the S to added in does that
need to be by resolution or does it need
to be an ordinance I don't I think it's
an ordinance well I don't know on that
fee structure was that change so that
the the dog licenses could be done by
resolution it wasn't changed to that we
were changing we're going to be having a
public hearing Tuesday to change the
ordinance for the dog licenses but that
doesn't include the other pets and it
doesn't include changing by
resolution but the other thing with cats
and other pets we have nothing in the
ordinance or CH regarding that I don't
know if that needs to be added in or can
put in my
resolution can we uh
maybe submit something in favor of that
so it's part of the record and the
council
to do it by resolution going forward and
adding the other pets in it you know
again say it's $20 registration it's one
time
fee
uh you want it a one time fee because
what if a person moves or they have you
know we want to have it maintained
yearly so that we know that the animal
is still there at the house like the dog
lies
yeah we put more burden on you doing the
upkeep yes that would be the
ideal component I mean because
eventually what we're hoping is that our
police would know that there's a pet
there to be rescued or you know taken
care of whatever the case
is is it registered how is it
registered we'll have a well we don't we
don't do a registry now but we're
looking to implement it put it
incription
work legal to see what is needed and if
we need an ordinance or a resolution or
we need to amend anything and move
forward to next week to add this as part
of our Fe structure those Fe they're not
in the is that Revenue oh oh yeah okay
yeah yeah the revenue yeah the PD add
all
those and also
afor so we'll follow up on that um in
the next couple
days so so would that up our Revenue
well actually we have okay S I see that
that's not going to be change the bottom
line offset a little bit of the expenses
and I hope to next year maybe add uh two
home rules to change the cost of birth
and death we haven't increased it in
maybe two or more decades Albany has
increased theirs but the only way we can
change it is through home roll
okay mean you mean to come and get a
death certificate yeah the cost to get a
copy of it we can't do anything with
marriages but birth and death
yes St raise their fees but don't allow
the locali to raise theirs I
see do you have to wait till next year
to start the home why don't we start as
hardly as we can and get those into the
assembly start in
January saying we can start put them
together and get them we it out yeah so
I think we should work on that in the
next couple Cycles
any other
questions go ahead the overall amount on
in this budget for ARA is one is 3.1
million yeah
Milli there was a spread sheet CL is
38278 all right um well the other
question that came up the other day um
Mr rush but you were sitting on
but um about the 88 properties which is
a little bit over 2 million that of U
pending for no
sales um so we have 86 properties
according to our
records
um cancel so be
83 um have 29 active
closings we have 12 that are waiting for
re
forclosure we have 15 that are
contracted to bcni as an
option um and two properties are
licensed and the others um are in
different phases some of these are from
old resolutions so we have to locate the
contracts my understanding is my
predecessor used to do some sales based
just on resolution so we're collecting
some data on some of the ones that we
need to locate the contracts on
so you said there was 29 that active
closings right now yeah so what I mean
by that is U we either got clear a close
or we've ordered title we're somewhere
in the middle of closing sometimes they
the buyer has to wait for the bank to
get back to them so um I mean there
that's what I counted from my my records
so there's no um like estimate of how
much money we would taken from those who
are at least in that process those 20 I
mean I can put that together for you for
Monday if you like Tuesday or Tuesday
for the next committee
meeting but yeah I can put that together
the amount from the active V Active
closings sure right thank you if you can
do that next week for Tuesday Yeah
Tuesday or Wednesday one of
those any other
this so we'll um we'll recess but before
we recess there is some over water so
and waste collection want to just have a
brief with Mr because he had to leave so
Tuesday we'll breing that and then we'll
go into Council discussion I encourage
you every member please if you have
questions reports you need please reach
out to myself Anthony Derek
mayor get to report submit your um your
email your text for call don't hesitate
because we're looking to aggressively
move Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and
Friday
and to make sure we work together to
achieve the conclusion as fast as we can
so I beg of you to submit your
questions answers report whatever you
need go through the all the report that
we have here we did not go through them
as yet in detail or please go through
them any question on the ARA please
reach out to Derek Anthony any one of
those report that you have the time over
the weekend the long weekend go through
them if you need an U actual not a copy
or you identify a specific line for
actual please reach out there's also a
new copy of the budget to separate the
arpa this copy here please go through it
the one we were giving the other day yes
so P reach out and let's um make sure
that we have all the information that
you
needed excuse I understand Tuesday are
we going to beet again yes is that
before yes we'll do we'll do um we'll
meet at 5:30 and then we'll close them
and go to our regular city council
meeting we don't want to waste an hour
and a half is is crucial so let's
utilize all the time that we have next
week so did you let yes I I notify him
yes any other business support finance
committee a motion to recess until 5:30
Tuesday October
15 second all in favor I thank you
everyone have a good evening
I so who won the non vet nobody won the
Nonet I said 630 I got Clos I said says
you said what she was I think I said 710
yes so I think I won
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