so and when you um are looking for the
full-time employees are you considering
the seasonals who were good workers yes
they they they are the first come we we
look at our seasonals that we you know
um we have a program to their seasonals
that um if they'd like to go get their
permit um they go get their permit for
CDL we give them training we have two
gentlemen um within the bar who are
trained to provide the classroom
instructions now because the uh CDL
requirement have changed um we give them
their required hours on the truck um and
we give them a truck to go get their for
test with and keep a couple openings
because that is sort of the program that
they are successful in doing that
transition um then there's a
recomendation recommendation made put
them in as a permanent Meo which is a
you know
driver but some of the seasonals prefer
they don't want the responsibility of
driving or they still want whatever
but yes all the labor loaders last year
that we hired all came from the Good
Seasons that were working already in
jally and the four are granted in this
budget those four will be they'll come
from the seil that we have don't go
outside don't think that would be fair
so they're they're promoted from with it
okay thank
you go ahead please so I remember last
year we were talking about that um that
instructor uh kind of In-House
instructor um I think you were hinting
to that a little bit right now so that
seems to be currently have two of them
and um yes one
um they do the in-house training that's
required now for the federal Moto
carrier um and then after that they uh
you know it doesn't have to be them to
give them the road hours any driver just
like if you have a permit you can get in
with a license driver they'll drive a
truck with one of the other uh licensed
drivers and then that trainer though
that um he feels confident and he wants
to take his road test that trainer will
work with him um all morning scheduled
the test early afternoon they work with
them all morning you know to go over
some of the things free trip different
things like that they take him to the um
you know where the test is given the
road test is given um with one of our
vehicles and it hopes that you know they pass if not they get another chance
it's not like don't lose their job that
really passes the test the first time
so we do since the implementation of
this we do have more CDL Drivers
so three four um three I know gone
through and gotten their licenses
through it and there is one right now
who is um trying to just get his
required hours in so he can schedule the
Dr test
okay
nice go ahead please you may have cover
this what are the Tipping fees The
Tipping fees are the disposal um the
trash that's calleded out whether it's the um nssw is Municipal
where the recycles or also um the uh
yard waste we pay a tip fee to get rid
of it I mean even though our yard waste
Bill to the county we pay a tip fee our
trash goes to the transportation but
there's a tip feed go to the landfill
and recycle H say so that's our cost for
disposal any other question on
W all right see then move to um
water un that's separ out all the way to
the
back just briefly just run this
back the
expense um water budget uh increased by
2.8%
2.4 do the budget uh very small marginal
increase of 282,000 uh there's no uh key
rate increases for the water budget and
uh use approximately 6 61,000 in
appropriate
fundal any question on the
revenue speak none go ahead please you
Zar out the line that we talked about
before um FX
2041 yes
making okay so we going that
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that and we'll go to
expense specific questions on the
expenses water Administration didn't
Chang slightly
um raises IPS there's an ips3 that now
that there's a list established that
position will be fill
um longevity overtime slightly went up
but that's anticipation of um there was
some longevity increases so um somebody
hit a different milone on
longevity Qui need to put $2,000 in for
Cas there's a computer that's getting
quite old downstairs so have computer um
other expenses pretty much stayed the
same um there was no change in other
expenses commercial accounts um again s
did our plumber um longevity to go up by
him because he hit the next the the next
tier for longevity so very minor changes
there um
so be clear that's just that's a step
that that increased there yeah there's a
step on longevity um so um it's 5 years
10 years 15 years so it does increase
that number comes straight from payroll
um it goes based on their start date or
their higher date so if they hit that
next Milestone there's another it's also
based on
maneral
guys benefits
any other question on this
SE Reservoir Supply the cost is
Landscaping um we do have a contract the
LA there now um two they're doing also
on the water uh wellfield the contractor
do that um we received quotes to do that
um earlier in the year um the first
contractor never showed up
the next one um the next highest one and
they're currently performing that I
think they probably did their last
mowing
um last week so weather's changing so
that should be done
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out please so is there a reason that the
snap coup Cann that mow out there the
snap
CP or whoever mows all the other
properties all the St that's probably
just it they have all the other
properties through the city to M um
there's usually four or five people that
come and do the reservoir because of the
hills there um so it's quite extensive
um it takes about 4 hours 4 and a half
hours for a crew to do that um and then
they do the U well fields on Race
Road um it's it I don't know everybody
must be where the reservoir is so it's
all Hill um are some flat areas that I
used to maintain um I don't maintain it
more so somebody else was already doing
the hills anyway yes the hills were
getting done I was doing all the tops
and the flats yes and somebody else was
doing hill yeah and the
rad I didn't know no they they do thank
you any got a
question but you are saving some money
there I still answer all the
calls so there's no overtime and um if
the phone was given to a other member
$7,800 to hold the
phone and a 3our call out every time the
alarm off so I still do that thank
you
pumping again salaries there um
contractual U the number of employees
haven't changed
um overtime sickly obviously with the SS
Going Up Overtime goes up a little bit
so there's a little bump time and a half
is time and a half there always go up
um biggest um increase in the pumping is
going to be the light power and gas and
that is the um electric use um and the
uh the chemicals chemicals are going up
on a regular basis um we bid them every
year um and power goes up too um
so the amount of electricity that being
used isn't going up but the rate for the
electrical C per kilowatt is going
up that's about like 400 almost
$450,000 more
M those pumps are 300 horsepower pump
there and September that's at
89,000 that's actually not through
September that's
actually so through you know probably
July through middle of August
8,000 just for this
department and you got to realize we had
a very dry um summer so people used a
lot of water so we you know a little
more water than
normal good any questions
uh water distribution and that's all the
pipes that's coming out of the bureau
service um not any big changes there
some slight changes based on salaries um
and then of course CCA
um not settled their contract yet
um hydrants um we to drop a little bit
uh when I did the budget
I I went through everything we had our
inventory um last year we put $100,000
into henss we have extra hens down there
that we didn't have a really bad winter
last winter so a lot of henss did not
get hit and destroyed so um we do um
build insurance companies when that
happens
and pretty successful getting
reimbursement um but we do have a fair
amount of so inventory so we did cut
that back so it's a $50,000 cut there
um overall I don't
overall whole change on percent for
water
was
2.8% pretty flat there's no rate
increases on
water any questions on this section
see we move
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to the Sewer budget po25 sewer budget
request a 5.5% increase compared four
adop budget uh increase of 864,000
approximately uh we suggest no increases
in
fee to budget and we are using
appropriate debt reserves 261,000
any question on
Revenue n Go ahead I do want to I mean
so um looks like we're going up a bit in
um septic sludge and um well course the
interest 2122 up uh yep yes I was just
wondering um that's a good thing I I
think it's a great thing I just wanted
to find out a little bit more about it
no it's we have um you know we receive
outside Sage from hallers at the wh Tre
um that materal it's processed in our
digesters um so we are taking in
material from the outside haulers um
they come in I'm anticipating that
that's going to grow a little bit more
this year um
thank
you any other question if not we move
into
expense shower they're not going up by
much if you look at the administrator
shows 182 to 19 one um about
$10,000
um some is contractual um some is
management raises um there is an IPS in
there um currently working there um
unsure what that'll be because that's
CSA again that contract has to be
settled um s per DM no change in the
number of employees U still 18 those are
all um union members so anything that
will be there is going to be contractual
um same longevity went down a little um
must have had somebody retire so that
dropped a little bit um and also
overtime um you know based on our today
expenditures um I was I us that by about
$6,000 I'm comfortable with those
numbers um actually un comfortable with
all numbers I would put them in the
budget again the other
grade that is the uh the Masons
everything else is working and as our
salaries go up those autog grades are
going to go up to a little bit more
so um standby pay um that is for the
Emergency sewer truck the emergency
sewer truck that's on 24 hours a day
seven days a week so contractually those
members get a standby pce for being on
call for the weekends and
holidays see per me in overtime um based
on what we spent um and where we are now
um that's why you're going to see the
drop in the sanitary SCH
compensation ini last year
107
145 is that just based on Staffing
patterns because we're fos that still
have some openings to fill
there but
again when we do our budget we look at
where we are to date and where we think
we're going to be and a
year um I work with my other department
heads um to come with a budget that we
think is going to be accurate and
reflect what we're going to spend next
year so total ceter sewer um from the 24
adopted budget 1.72 s um and 25 is going
be 1714
any
question Tre
disposal
again I don't know if you have any
specific line items but um you know
staff has not changed
um um in those uh s
um we do have a couple opening currently
I think Anthony I sent Anthony the
vacancy request I think there's two
um two maintenance personnel and uh I
two traines um currently um we don't
typically find operators um we start the
train unforunately operators that
usually come over from another
municipality usually comfortable
so probably by the we just lost one to
retirement so um about two weeks ago so
we'll probably be looking at filling
that by the end of the year so we want
to make sure there's no test scheduled
for civil service because we want to
make sure that we follow those rules and
don't get somebody on and can't get the
test so the vacancies is that what
you're talking about you plan on filling
or the one
that we'll fill both of those um
typically we try to do 10 operators um
well 10 operators but normally one in
what we'll call one training we'll
probably have a couple trainings now
again the waste water treatment plant
your training um you take the Civil
Service EX in because we don't send
somebody to school um you know thought
if they don't pass the civil service
test we're not be retaining so there's
an expense to the city there's a twoe
course or laboratory there's a week
course for activating Sledge um that's a
cost the city pays to send them to
school but we do that once
complete their soci service exam and
then um depending on when they do that
um we require 3A license we'd like to
see a 3A license at the waste water
treatment plant and that takes four
years of um experience at the plan
before you can get a letter
of uh from us to um sit down for the
state
examp get a letter of experience written
by the city and then they could
Tak other
question there's a little bit of an
increase in the overtime here again the
was water treatment plan is7 operation
so holiday Saturday Sunday up and shut
down so we do have to fill the Shi
if have a
any other
question see n thank you so much
appreciate taking a time to be back here
CLE projects yes sorry I think we that
were there any question on that we did
that already
yeah
Capital were there any question that
need to be addressed
on I have says I think um Mr L K went
over he said he wasn't really really
sure about the water and SE yeah okay just want me a touch Bas quickly
capital for for water weal Feld
improvements typically we redevelop um
trying to do two Wells a year depending
on the hours we put on the bo with the
amount of hours we put on the wells
because of the warm summer last year
asked for um $250,000 to try and do two
Wells and that's where um contract
redevelops those walls cleans them new
wall screens we take the motors out
Motors go get rewound so it's it's what
we call maintenance um you know
underalls um the water distribution
system repairs and improvements
$350,000 that is you water our water
bcks and you know replacing um vales um
insert vales um so we always try and do
something every year um and then the
other thing too is we always have some
of those emergency once they come off
that we just can't handle them we have
to have somebody set aside in capital
for improvements um
so the uh the hdv the H HD van um our um
plumbing inspector SL plumber his van is
I think it's got to be about 15 years
old it's um just it's all the heart so
um he does need a new van um he travels
all over the city does a lot of work in
all our facilities um because he's also
the plumber so whether it's any City
facility he's rebuilding all the pipes
that the Vandal destroyed at um Hil Park
um the pickle ball people didn't have
water a few weeks ago because somebody
broke in and took all the to so um he's
he goes all around fixes everything hot
water tanks the toilets everything so he
does need a b and um that's the request
for is in the
van that are the three items for water
wait we have we're going to be adding
one for C and Main yeah PR and Main
we're going to do um a million we're
going to take a million dollar off of
the um wastewater treatment plant bar
Spring that million dollars because it's
going to be
borrowed and talking to Chris Wall that
big project for the Craig main project
um we have some large water mains here
one only goes a couple blocks but there
a 30in main that um suffered a break
already once last year broke under the
bridge was expensive for us to get fixed
wasn't something um crew could
handle so like we did with these um with
Area Boulevard these big projects that
are you know 1012 million we need to
really go in and look at the
infrastructure um before we do all the
on top work so we're going to a million
we're going to hold off on the bar
Springs um design for a year and put
that into the Craig main to make sure
those water lines get replaced and U
everything gets repaired there before we
do all the surface work sidewalks
everything
okay and fig well you want to do a 121
13 million project we wanted the
infrastructure to be well we you want to
do the project then have to Red dig it
and fix it you
know we're trying to stay ahead of the
game so Anthony you will that you will
do that you know this has happened
within the last few
days sewer collection system repairs and
improvements is just like above with
water um we do lining do a lot of things
in our sewer system a lot of repairs a
lot of catch basing so um you know again
we're going to continue to work on on
major sewer
repairs Vehicles obviously we need
Vehicles a lot of our vehicles are well
over 15 years and some of the smaller
ones the um pickup trucks um the utility
truck with the crane um so those are
replacing just old worn out vehicles
that we're putting a lot of money in the
wastewater treatment equipment replaced
there a list of equipment that um it all
adds up to different things with return
pumps so we just grew up we grouped it
as a equipment
replacement um and then the bigger item
is the digestor number four upgrades the
digestors
um there two active digesters at the
wastewater treatment plant one holding
tank and one
secondary they were constructed in the
early to mid-50s still utiliz
um they still work um but they do need
repairs um they reduce the vola solids
content and the sledge that we process
that makes our Sledge capable of going
to different homes when we dispose of it
so um without that um we be restricted
to more just single landfills where we
can move our SED to different places now
so um there's a gas system there um
people gone by you've seen the flare
burning um so again it's just one of the
processes that it doesn't turn off there
it runs
constantly like I said the digestors
were mid-50s so they do need some
repairs and concrete worth um some of
the uh the roof structures they need new
seals so new heat exchangers
um so then there was a no balance on
approximately $7 million be in 2026 so
that's going to be put on hold also
because you're moving that million
dollars yeah the waste water replace the
Barre design only um because the
upgrades that were done from The Pump
Station the for for the Waste Water
treatment in the past couple years give
you a good example um our plant is
designed to do 18 permitted to do 18
half million gallons a day when it rains
though we we exceed that that's not a
violation it's the rain day that
the 45 years I've been around um the
most we've seen was Hurricane FL was
about 39 million gallons um the storm we
had say two months ago we hit 52 million
gallons going to the plant it's never
been there but with we have to handle
all this flow now that was part of the
consent order that we had so with bar
Spring design there is to increase those
so they can handle more FL they handle
it but it struggles for them and they're
also probably 15 years old so we thought
we would look at the design this year I
get ready and then if the design is
there we all know that usually when I
look at design it's because I want to
try and get great money and if we're
designed and shovel ready we have the
potential to you know apply for grant
money quicker um so you know the bar
screens are working wanted to do the
design but you know if you look at where
your real critical needs are um doing
$12 million of work on Craig at Maine
and not doing the
infrastructure it's a little bit of a
tradeoff
julo so does this make us does this hurt
our ability or likelihood of receiving
set grants because we're going to have
to hold it off no because it would take
them probably a year to keep design I
think we we'll be fine I mean this is
just something what you you start
looking at things you try and look at
least I do you
know ahead and you know trying to get a
jump start on the design you know would
have been nice but um we're not you know
it's not like they're down they're not
going to fail tomorrow um you know but
it was to get a jump start um but when
you have to look and say what's more
critical where should those dollars be
SM I think it's um
any other question but isn't this
holding back the project I if you have
the design working you have the design
other thing you got to realize once the
design is there you know that's the
design um I think if you want to look at
a budget number to replace those you're
probably going to look at about $9
million so it's a big project and you
know can't you just do the design
yeah I old days we had a lot of R there
guys would rap the
racks in my opinion we can we can
here and the other question on this
category St on thank you appreciate it
you and all your St what you doing you
want to you want to discuss
it's to
you
the you any questions here I don't think
that the council has been briefed on it
at all last time you came you talk about
kind of when you were asking about the
Seeker but um didn't really go into that
and there was a little confusion um and
the Seeker obviously we we uh discussed
that and I uh last Monday night um it's
Ty so there's no environmental impact
it's it's a survey so so there's no no but the second part of that was we
was the award of the g m um and I think
Derek did send something out um this
afternoon and it's whether we can get
this in because um we were awarded a
grant for
6 I say $
it's not going to cost us anything it's a grant um but it was part of the
Seeker and in order for that to go
through we have to have the Seeker which
was discussed funny night and the
council's approval to just accept that
Grant and move forward it's um you know
100% grant money there's no City match
it's just grant money um and I'd like to
talk to Derek I would like to get it
done so that we can move forward because
the survey is out it's on the city's
website um
you know we have a lot of work to finish
on this survey um and we do have a
consultant that's working with us and
now that this Grant's available we can move forward with the consultant
and get it done um it's not something
that's going to be done instantly
because it does involve
the we all saw the the surveys whether
you have you know a lead service a
copper service a plastic or you know
galvanized service and again we don't
have a big response from um Property
Owners getting back to us um
confusion the confusion with this uh
with the grant was we did the Seeker we
knew that was working but because we're
told oh you got to have the Seeker apply
for a grant so what that happened is
once we let them know that's a secret
pass and you know you know it's going to
pass tonight you know they told us okay
we we're we're going to give you a grant
so we did not have to do the bond or
because they didn't ask us to to do the
bond it's not a bond Bing money usually
what they do but we want usually what
they do is before they give you a grant
they want you to be serious and what
they do is do Bond ORD so we know you're
going to be serious about do this
project this one they were just so I
think the money they just want to give
it to us so they told us we got the
grant so we don't need the bond or you
know so then we got gr it's not requ
just to accept it Bond ORD is not
required as part of the application that
received to Grant so that's confusion
just acceptance of the council accepting
the grant
so so this money is just to pay for
the yes pay consultant and make sure
consultant any work um you know any leg
work that will have to be done by any
other firms can help us because there'll
be mailing again because the on surday
went out we didn't get a very little
response um it will help pay if um we
have to get somebody to do door the
door you know knock on the door leave a
card and you call and set up an
appointment
the survey is required by EPA it's not
something that you can just not do
it's and you have to have I'm sorry that
was kind of my question what is your
plan because you said people aren't
sending them back so how do we if if the
survey is an absolute must in order to
do this how do we how we get some level
of completion and is there a uh only a
certain amount like sometimes you have
to get at least 75% of the people C your
an amount 100% has to be 100% okay so
what the survey will help pay for okay
is like I said the Consulting Services
mailing services um what I'll call um
foot services for a company to come in
and actually look we already discussed
it internally with our consultant do
like our districts go door to door and
leave cards um if that doesn't work um
some cities are actually doing holes
before and after the curve box to
determine it because
we have to under the EPA EPA
requirement know if we have le service
or copper service or whatever it is so
they are actually you know boring holes
or using a vac truck on each side of the
curve box so they can determine what's
in there so uh it will help us with that
and that's why some of this gr money is
there and you know hopefully we will be
successful G because an unknown is going
to be considered um Le if you under the
EPA or regulation if you don't know
they're going to consider it
left Paul's outlined fairly well there
again some of that data is coming in
from the survey we're also having
plumbers when they're out doing regular
work on properties just do an
observation of the pipe so they can
record it whether it's lead copper
galvaniz
plastic the timing on this I want to
move as quick as we can that money will
help us
better uh put in place the requirements
that the federal government's imposing
on so that we'll have the
100%
completion the realities will never
quite get to the 100% you be in the '90s
there be some reason one way or another
you won't get in a
house those will be designated as
led what is
uh important in this is the cost of this
is
huge if we can move ahead of this and
we're moving faster than most
communities now to get that survey in we
would be in better position than for
funding for the actual replacement of
the lead lines and that's why moving
this you think well two weeks doesn't
make much difference difference here and
there it's one of those things where
every little bit of incremental
difference in this could have an impact
on the final project where we're going
to be applying for money to do the
actual Replacements and so that
appreciate the council's consideration
in that and then faster you can move
that forward uh I think just sends the
message that we're serious about it it's
going to give us the resources to be
able to do it and be able to actually
implement it and then qualifies for
additional funding going
forward what ask May would it be
possible to upload this entire surve on
our website I know but people can access
it by creating a username password it's
to the same survey it's in the format
the EPA requires so every city has the
same one and I checked with the want
today because it has to be out by
tomorrow um he said it's on ours I
didn't look at it but there's supposed
to be a link there um and then that will
grow because you know as we get the
surveys in or you know um people are
also doing this they're calling us
because they're not sure so we have our
water guys who are going out there
they're setting up schedules with home
owners to go in their basement and
verify it and it gets put on the um on
the database right now this is just one
it's going to be one big database for
every community in the country it's
they're all going to have the same
format you'll be able to you know plug
in an address and you'll be able to see
whatever address that is in conect and
what that service is and then the next
round is going to be like the mayor said
we're going to have to be replaced and
we don't own the services that's in the
city po EPA doesn't really care who owns
them um they're going to have to be
replaced and that's the essence of this
survey is to get this out so when the
new round of grant money is available we
can apply as quickly as possible and we
have a most the most we could have on
the survey that we can possibly
have so it's going to grow every day you
know it's you know that is going to have
to get put in we are working with a firm
120 water right now that you know is
working with us
so goe sure okay so I was just thinking
that this might be another opportunity
for us to kind of partner with the
school district right cuz we're
constantly you know getting uh giving
and getting information from um the
community I think that minimum sharing
the the link on the school district
survey um asking them to distribute it
via their social media but I think that
you can kind of um leverage some of the
structures within the school district as
far as the community outreach goes um
especially doesn't seem like it's much
of a lift more than just making people
aware and asking them to complete the
survey from the school districts and I
think that that would be a good vehicle
to use
yeah I mean we're like I said know once
this is gone through we have a
resolution everything we can work with
our consultant again and go to the next
step more
Outreach
and um to the mayor's point Thank You
mayor um I'm thinking of newer
municipalities that might have a small
mix of like Waterford where I came from
very small village older infrastructure
but then tons of new construction so
everyone knows what their new
construction is and they're going to be
getting their surveys in quicker uh not
knowing and the grant money is going to
go out so again it's important I think
198 86 or 87 but after that that was the
ban on L so if you you know you pre that
date you know that's where we really
have to look to see if those people will
either do the UN home test s us the
results or you know call us and we'll go
in and take take a look at it the house
was built in the 90s we know lead was
already banned so um you know those
houses can be eliminated or put into the
Z as you know not let so okay so is the
consultant on board already pardon me
you already have the consultant on
board yeah we because this had we we had
um 120 water working with us and you
know now the grant came out so now we
can do more because now we grant money
so we can now do another survey do more
mailings we can we said bring people in
the help because the water department
stuff can't we you know we we have seven
guys we can't go go the door we we just
don't have that so um you know this
grant will help us to you know reach out
to more people in different ways said
whether it's mailing whether it's
working with the school or whether it's
just you know feet foot on the ground I
don't to door door and you know we want
to probably start in the neighborhoods
that we know are um affected because
they're they
neighborhoods um and when you know where you have multiple family
homes like one two three units and you
have children at the house sort of like
a light paint um issue so light
paint this is something that all of us
at this table here is going to have to
help we're going to have to put our
effort to make sure that we help spread
the message out there and the
neighborhood association there meting
that department had me Council are
attending please take a moment to
highlight it and to help all of us help
spread the awareness and to encourage
people to um get the
survey you to three so far pardon me
three so far I did Mana I did Stockade I
did um North End uh and G um B un forun
was the same night we were here last
Thursday
and at G so
I spread a
little would you consider doing a press
release out or have you done
yeah we can do one from the council to
typ of thing where it's not just one
event it's like every day you got to do
something to raise the awareness get
people to fill it out Mr Farley
suggestion of school
district I think kids a lot of times buy
into this quicker than the parents and
they may be able to motivate their
parents to look at the pipes and see
what it is where the kids in fact can
buest
parents help them
complete good test is a magnet the good
magnet won't stick
to could be a really good homework
assignment maget stick to copper the
magnet SS to Copper it won't stick to at
all I know won stick to I think you
stick for C that's the big test and I I
have some things that one point water
has already
given us to you know they' mailed their
stuff out can work with 121 they they've
done this to with other communities are
we're not the First Community work with
or working with
so
okay so let us all get on board you
don't have a choice and um make it
happen any other questions for Paul or
what what what is take away from this
are we moving forward anything tonight
or we just what what's the take away
here well I thought you were my
understanding is going to be brought
forth on the next um committee cycle we
just got even though um we just got it
today just got it today even though
there's no way to move it though even
though it's just just saying we'll take
you
637000 because all the did all the
council members get what you sent to
me no something to Sam okay because it
was always like I'm I'm just always cent
of the fact that everyone's not informed
and didn't get all the information
including the public and I just got it
today and I see a hand that
there yes you
can
get you can by Anonymous consent we do
have a resolution written if the council
so chooses you can choose to pass it
mously can that share can that share um
the backup document um email to council
now so that we can get a couple minutes
to review
it you have it you don't have the backup
back and then just to be clear the
backup is October 7th but that that
document was not present at that
committee meeting I just
want who has the document
direct yes it wasn't of the the commit
anyone would think it was there and we didn't have
it okay can can we can we get a few
heart
copies you don't
mind we're going to utilize a couple
minutes so just and see where we
are so let me ask question I think you
mentioned about the
so is uploaded online so if I were to go
online to log in I can access that
specific code from my
property
no put in your you have
your the survey is just there for that
you can't you can't add anything to that
okay you can't do you you have to send
the survey to 120 water or phis or call
and we end it because the general can't
access and change data you know what I'm
saying so the data is there for you to
look at as it grows oh so look but you
can't yeah and you
know example say you were to buy
property such and such State Street you
can look at that and you'll know
Services coer POS no I I was more driven
towards um the survey online you can
complete the survey by creating a
username password and direct to your
information with a code so that way you
are specific to what we asking for
there's a there's a
yeah the QR code on the postcard went to
the website which allowed you to put it
in so when you're going to the
website on the city site you don't put
in QR code you just put in your address
the QR code is going to it's going to go
the information you put in through the
QR code is going to go to 12 water
because they're the ones who developed
everything for us and they all enter the
data um into the survey and then um yeah
you know and then you can look at the
survey but the QR code doesn't directly
have you input into
the go ahead please is there a way for
someone to see whether in fact they
already did the survey um you know if
they don't remember doing yeah there'll
be there'll be some lag because men you
know it's not like somebody sitting 12
water
and one put it
in of work
process it's going to take um good
example I've tried to get
into 17 properties um for another
project we're doing and it's been months
and I still can't get into for they
don't want to let
me do you suggest we mailed them I
mailed mine but I was talking with Phil
she said just to drop them off is there
a preference people have dropped them
off to us people have mailed them one
thing I wor about you
know could you come because people
complain that they hear somebody in the
background talking and they don't know
who it
is a lot of people are botom in in fact
one gentleman brought probably about six
or seven of them in you know have
apartment buildings um which is nice cuz
then we get them um the thing with
mailing them
um sometimes the mail just doesn't get
to it
um and sometimes the mail um didn't get
out we you know gave them you know a a
list from assessment of all the
properties where things have to be
mailed and you know even a few people
within the water department never
received them but their names were on
the list but you know sometimes you know
things do get lost in the mail
unfortunately so that's why you know
we'll do another repeat mailing because
it's you don't know if somebody just
didn't get it
I think the next step we probably put
something in you know in the media paper
some other places um like I said we are
scheduling appointments through staff
within the water department to go out
and they've even gone to a couple
properties um when people have come home
from work because people to work at 8:00
sometimes they have come home and some
my water staff had just gone over to
verify it you know 4:30 5:00
since since there are consideration to
do another mailing me would you consider
um doing a letter from your office to
can highlight the importance yeah we're
looking all these suggestions than
willing to do it direct mailing from
your office to highlight the importance
and why they should complete it it's not
like you receive it to just leave it
there and is there indate for the
survey EPA would like to have an end
I think reality is you know it's going
to take you know a lot of a while to get
through I'm just thinking people are
starting to do things around the
holidays and so there'll be places where
a lot of people will come and be GA and
that might be an opportunity I just
that's why I want to know if there's an
ending we're going to keep doing it
until we know we've got you know the
mayor said hopefully in a 90 pertile of
the you know the properties completed
and um hopefully by then um
when we're done with that there will be
some opportunities to apply for some
grant money to actually do The
Replacements the service line
replacement because we know that's going
to be next the surveys is only going to
lead to you know
Replacements go ahead please I'm sure
you code right because you have to pull
or permit the so you know what
properties maybe have been done over the
past we looked we have old index cards
that we've tried to find up in the AR
you know um some of my staff down is
very good um you know permit process has
gotten better and like the mayor said
when plumbers go in now to pull a permit
um they're checking for us because
they're going to the house normally
they're already you know residents
already let them in because they're
going to do some Plumbing work and it's
just really looking at the place coming
through the wall it's
just it's CER for good and does so the
mail do they go to the Property Owners
or the property itself because to the
property owner the um owner of
record because they send it just to the
yeah that I some tenants are just going
to they're going the list that we got
from Molly is the actual where tax be to
and some do are going to end up in um
you know ESC because some people don't
oh so you know
we we're hoping we can we get there
um I have a question now about the
resolution that that um been put forward
it says that the agreement agreement
with under there um the last
there's um so the last therefore be
resolved it says there's a agreement
with cha so um is that's the company
that would also be trying to getting
people to go door to door or is that
something that CH works for a
subcontractor um 120 water okay so they
would be the ones yes we would contract
with cha to to recruit people to go door
too they would do everything they would
work with 120 water and they would
recruit with people um to go door to
door CH is the engineering firm that has
done most of our work so they're the
lead on this and they would work with us
and some of us for all say it's coming
in slower than we'd like it's the
reality what every communities in we'll
still learn from that you know are there
you know some neighborhoods where we
have more information other
neighborhoods where we don't so from
that and just our discussion here
hopefully we'll get a little press
coverage and you know so where do we
have to concentrate our efforts to again
get that data in place and have it in an
accurate manner so I'm really familiar
with um cha obviously but I was
wondering is there an opportunity I'm
always thinking there an opportunity for
people who are uh maybe uner commun who
go right work within their community and
have an opportunity to be able to get
this pum for however long it is and so
for us to be able to have that input as
opposed to Cha may have a form that they
normally use and they go to people so
how can we maybe um have the opportunity
to to recruit people from the community
I was thinking deputize and Mr Farley's
students he identifies
move we might do some adults as
well but seriously I think
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that to be effective that's definitely
something we have to look
at normally with these grants are Force
accounts too so if you want to utilize
your own staff um you can utilize that
reimburse yourselves through the grant
too they're they're called Force
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account so these grants so if you know
if you wanted
to we had some people that wanted to go
out go to door too um we could get first
city staff yes oh those are those are
the force accounts there is a form in
part of the grants that called Force
accounts it's just it's there want use
it sounds like
jobs program president almost sounds
like you could might be a jobs program
in there some or something for I think
there people people might want to do it
so but I think we should present the
opportunity
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this
did you send this to me the
resolution no because we did it late day
brought
ch
we just reading the next last paragraph
in the letter about the second
the
DAT is the April date yes
yeah that we had sent here yes we did I
did that I sent that in yes yeah because
um this letter came out in March and
April 19th I think it was the day that
it had to
be it was s
it's
said we're going to get the so we
actually accepted the grant like months
ago no we said that we were pursuing it
we wanted to do it and then the actual
award said wasn't given to us till when
Anthony we
said we got the paper work today so what
it what it is is you you're you're in
line for the grand Grant if you want the
grant you send the acceptance then you
have to do the followup paperwork which
is the resolution for the Seeker which
is the actual acceptance as a resolution
of the grant this is so that they don't
if you don't respond by a certain date
they're going to take the money give it
to somebody
else so that money has been on hold so
we have you know there's a there's a
period of time where we can do certain
things and one is the resolution yes the
grant is still there they're just
waiting now for resolution on the seeker
and a resolution to officially accept
the Grant and then they'll do a contract
no contract they design he just signed
an acceptance we would like the grant so
now we we'll get a once we send them
this the grant will be
finalized if we would like
so this would have to go on for for me
this consent we can't pass it we have to
yeah yeah that's I'm say this is not a
finance thing so we all have to U
agree so um I guess we'll just basically
just ask to make sure that everyone no
one is opposed to this so start over
here no no opposition to this I'm sorry
no opposition to this I'm in favor yes
vote Yes same mayor I'm okay with this
to move forward totally okay I'm in
favor of it I'm
favor all right so we'll have to clear
out
upstairs so um Mr you want to move from
the floor and then you'll need a second
on that we have to take it from the
floor yes we can yes yeah so we you have
to make any corrections
this yes we'll do that and yes from the
Flo and we Finance somebody from Finance
yeah again second doesn't matter can we
reset so we can get work done yes that's
I want to say I don't think we have time
to to go in into these reports and
things like that so I'm going to reset
the finance committee for
tomorrow 5:30 p.m. right here room 110
to continue our um budget um negotiation
sounds good motion on the favor second
all in favor I thank you thank you
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okay I'll me