[0:00] so and when you um are looking for the
[0:03] full-time employees are you considering
[0:04] the seasonals who were good workers yes
[0:07] they they they are the first come we we
[0:09] look at our seasonals that we you know
[0:12] um we have a program to their seasonals
[0:15] that um if they'd like to go get their
[0:18] permit um they go get their permit for
[0:21] CDL we give them training we have two
[0:24] gentlemen um within the bar who are
[0:26] trained to provide the classroom
[0:27] instructions now because the uh CDL
[0:29] requirement have changed um we give them
[0:32] their required hours on the truck um and
[0:36] we give them a truck to go get their for
[0:38] test with and keep a couple openings
[0:41] because that is sort of the program that
[0:43] they are successful in doing that
[0:45] transition um then there's a
[0:47] recomendation recommendation made put
[0:49] them in as a permanent Meo which is a
[0:52] you know
[0:53] driver but some of the seasonals prefer
[0:56] they don't want the responsibility of
[0:57] driving or they still want whatever
[1:00] but yes all the labor loaders last year
[1:03] that we hired all came from the Good
[1:04] Seasons that were working already in
[1:06] jally and the four are granted in this
[1:09] budget those four will be they'll come
[1:12] from the seil that we have don't go
[1:14] outside don't think that would be fair
[1:16] so they're they're promoted from with it
[1:18] okay thank
[1:21] you go ahead please so I remember last
[1:24] year we were talking about that um that
[1:26] instructor uh kind of In-House
[1:29] instructor um I think you were hinting
[1:31] to that a little bit right now so that
[1:33] seems to be currently have two of them
[1:35] and um yes one
[1:38] um they do the in-house training that's
[1:41] required now for the federal Moto
[1:43] carrier um and then after that they uh
[1:48] you know it doesn't have to be them to
[1:50] give them the road hours any driver just
[1:52] like if you have a permit you can get in
[1:53] with a license driver they'll drive a
[1:55] truck with one of the other uh licensed
[1:57] drivers and then that trainer though
[1:59] that um he feels confident and he wants
[2:02] to take his road test that trainer will
[2:04] work with him um all morning scheduled
[2:07] the test early afternoon they work with
[2:09] them all morning you know to go over
[2:11] some of the things free trip different
[2:12] things like that they take him to the um
[2:16] you know where the test is given the
[2:18] road test is given um with one of our
[2:20] vehicles and it hopes that you know they pass if not they get another chance
[2:25] it's not like don't lose their job that
[2:28] really passes the test the first time
[2:30] so we do since the implementation of
[2:33] this we do have more CDL Drivers
[2:36] so three four um three I know gone
[2:41] through and gotten their licenses
[2:42] through it and there is one right now
[2:45] who is um trying to just get his
[2:46] required hours in so he can schedule the
[2:49] Dr test
[2:50] okay
[2:53] nice go ahead please you may have cover
[2:55] this what are the Tipping fees The
[2:57] Tipping fees are the disposal um the
[2:59] trash that's calleded out whether it's the um nssw is Municipal
[3:05] where the recycles or also um the uh
[3:10] yard waste we pay a tip fee to get rid
[3:11] of it I mean even though our yard waste
[3:13] Bill to the county we pay a tip fee our
[3:15] trash goes to the transportation but
[3:17] there's a tip feed go to the landfill
[3:19] and recycle H say so that's our cost for
[3:27] disposal any other question on
[3:30] W all right see then move to um
[3:36] water un that's separ out all the way to
[3:39] the
[3:45] back just briefly just run this
[3:48] back the
[3:54] expense um water budget uh increased by
[3:58] 2.8%
[3:59] 2.4 do the budget uh very small marginal
[4:03] increase of 282,000 uh there's no uh key
[4:06] rate increases for the water budget and
[4:10] uh use approximately 6 61,000 in
[4:13] appropriate
[4:19] fundal any question on the
[4:23] revenue speak none go ahead please you
[4:25] Zar out the line that we talked about
[4:27] before um FX
[4:30] 2041 yes
[4:35] making okay so we going that
[4:41] [Music]
[4:45] that and we'll go to
[4:52] expense specific questions on the
[4:56] expenses water Administration didn't
[4:59] Chang slightly
[5:01] um raises IPS there's an ips3 that now
[5:05] that there's a list established that
[5:06] position will be fill
[5:10] um longevity overtime slightly went up
[5:13] but that's anticipation of um there was
[5:15] some longevity increases so um somebody
[5:18] hit a different milone on
[5:21] longevity Qui need to put $2,000 in for
[5:25] Cas there's a computer that's getting
[5:27] quite old downstairs so have computer um
[5:32] other expenses pretty much stayed the
[5:35] same um there was no change in other
[5:38] expenses commercial accounts um again s
[5:43] did our plumber um longevity to go up by
[5:47] him because he hit the next the the next
[5:49] tier for longevity so very minor changes
[5:52] there um
[6:01] so be clear that's just that's a step
[6:04] that that increased there yeah there's a
[6:06] step on longevity um so um it's 5 years
[6:11] 10 years 15 years so it does increase
[6:14] that number comes straight from payroll
[6:16] um it goes based on their start date or
[6:17] their higher date so if they hit that
[6:19] next Milestone there's another it's also
[6:22] based on
[6:24] maneral
[6:26] guys benefits
[6:31] any other question on this
[6:38] SE Reservoir Supply the cost is
[6:41] Landscaping um we do have a contract the
[6:44] LA there now um two they're doing also
[6:48] on the water uh wellfield the contractor
[6:52] do that um we received quotes to do that
[6:55] um earlier in the year um the first
[6:57] contractor never showed up
[7:00] the next one um the next highest one and
[7:04] they're currently performing that I
[7:06] think they probably did their last
[7:07] mowing
[7:08] um last week so weather's changing so
[7:11] that should be done
[7:12] [Music]
[7:14] out please so is there a reason that the
[7:17] snap coup Cann that mow out there the
[7:19] snap
[7:20] CP or whoever mows all the other
[7:22] properties all the St that's probably
[7:24] just it they have all the other
[7:25] properties through the city to M um
[7:28] there's usually four or five people that
[7:29] come and do the reservoir because of the
[7:30] hills there um so it's quite extensive
[7:36] um it takes about 4 hours 4 and a half
[7:38] hours for a crew to do that um and then
[7:41] they do the U well fields on Race
[7:44] Road um it's it I don't know everybody
[7:49] must be where the reservoir is so it's
[7:51] all Hill um are some flat areas that I
[7:54] used to maintain um I don't maintain it
[7:57] more so somebody else was already doing
[8:00] the hills anyway yes the hills were
[8:02] getting done I was doing all the tops
[8:04] and the flats yes and somebody else was
[8:05] doing hill yeah and the
[8:08] rad I didn't know no they they do thank
[8:15] you any got a
[8:19] question but you are saving some money
[8:21] there I still answer all the
[8:23] calls so there's no overtime and um if
[8:27] the phone was given to a other member
[8:29] $7,800 to hold the
[8:31] phone and a 3our call out every time the
[8:34] alarm off so I still do that thank
[8:41] you
[8:42] pumping again salaries there um
[8:47] contractual U the number of employees
[8:49] haven't changed
[8:54] um overtime sickly obviously with the SS
[8:57] Going Up Overtime goes up a little bit
[8:59] so there's a little bump time and a half
[9:01] is time and a half there always go up
[9:05] um biggest um increase in the pumping is
[9:09] going to be the light power and gas and
[9:11] that is the um electric use um and the
[9:15] uh the chemicals chemicals are going up
[9:17] on a regular basis um we bid them every
[9:20] year um and power goes up too um
[9:26] so the amount of electricity that being
[9:29] used isn't going up but the rate for the
[9:32] electrical C per kilowatt is going
[9:38] up that's about like 400 almost
[9:41] $450,000 more
[9:46] M those pumps are 300 horsepower pump
[9:52] there and September that's at
[9:57] 89,000 that's actually not through
[9:59] September that's
[10:01] actually so through you know probably
[10:04] July through middle of August
[10:07] 8,000 just for this
[10:12] department and you got to realize we had
[10:14] a very dry um summer so people used a
[10:18] lot of water so we you know a little
[10:21] more water than
[10:26] normal good any questions
[10:30] uh water distribution and that's all the
[10:32] pipes that's coming out of the bureau
[10:33] service um not any big changes there
[10:37] some slight changes based on salaries um
[10:40] and then of course CCA
[10:43] um not settled their contract yet
[10:49] um hydrants um we to drop a little bit
[10:52] uh when I did the budget
[10:55] I I went through everything we had our
[10:57] inventory um last year we put $100,000
[11:00] into henss we have extra hens down there
[11:02] that we didn't have a really bad winter
[11:05] last winter so a lot of henss did not
[11:07] get hit and destroyed so um we do um
[11:10] build insurance companies when that
[11:12] happens
[11:13] and pretty successful getting
[11:16] reimbursement um but we do have a fair
[11:18] amount of so inventory so we did cut
[11:21] that back so it's a $50,000 cut there
[11:25] um overall I don't
[11:29] overall whole change on percent for
[11:32] water
[11:41] was
[11:44] 2.8% pretty flat there's no rate
[11:47] increases on
[11:54] water any questions on this section
[12:01] see we move
[12:02] [Music]
[12:22] to the Sewer budget po25 sewer budget
[12:26] request a 5.5% increase compared four
[12:29] adop budget uh increase of 864,000
[12:33] approximately uh we suggest no increases
[12:36] in
[12:37] fee to budget and we are using
[12:41] appropriate debt reserves 261,000
[12:46] any question on
[12:50] Revenue n Go ahead I do want to I mean
[12:53] so um looks like we're going up a bit in
[12:55] um septic sludge and um well course the
[12:59] interest 2122 up uh yep yes I was just
[13:03] wondering um that's a good thing I I
[13:06] think it's a great thing I just wanted
[13:07] to find out a little bit more about it
[13:09] no it's we have um you know we receive
[13:12] outside Sage from hallers at the wh Tre
[13:16] um that materal it's processed in our
[13:18] digesters um so we are taking in
[13:22] material from the outside haulers um
[13:24] they come in I'm anticipating that
[13:26] that's going to grow a little bit more
[13:27] this year um
[13:31] thank
[13:33] you any other question if not we move
[13:36] into
[13:52] expense shower they're not going up by
[13:55] much if you look at the administrator
[13:56] shows 182 to 19 one um about
[14:01] $10,000
[14:02] um some is contractual um some is
[14:06] management raises um there is an IPS in
[14:09] there um currently working there um
[14:13] unsure what that'll be because that's
[14:14] CSA again that contract has to be
[14:17] settled um s per DM no change in the
[14:22] number of employees U still 18 those are
[14:25] all um union members so anything that
[14:27] will be there is going to be contractual
[14:30] um same longevity went down a little um
[14:34] must have had somebody retire so that
[14:35] dropped a little bit um and also
[14:39] overtime um you know based on our today
[14:42] expenditures um I was I us that by about
[14:46] $6,000 I'm comfortable with those
[14:49] numbers um actually un comfortable with
[14:51] all numbers I would put them in the
[14:53] budget again the other
[14:56] grade that is the uh the Masons
[15:00] everything else is working and as our
[15:01] salaries go up those autog grades are
[15:03] going to go up to a little bit more
[15:06] so um standby pay um that is for the
[15:10] Emergency sewer truck the emergency
[15:13] sewer truck that's on 24 hours a day
[15:15] seven days a week so contractually those
[15:18] members get a standby pce for being on
[15:21] call for the weekends and
[15:25] holidays see per me in overtime um based
[15:30] on what we spent um and where we are now
[15:33] um that's why you're going to see the
[15:34] drop in the sanitary SCH
[15:37] compensation ini last year
[15:40] 107
[15:44] 145 is that just based on Staffing
[15:47] patterns because we're fos that still
[15:49] have some openings to fill
[15:51] there but
[15:53] again when we do our budget we look at
[15:55] where we are to date and where we think
[15:58] we're going to be and a
[16:01] year um I work with my other department
[16:04] heads um to come with a budget that we
[16:06] think is going to be accurate and
[16:07] reflect what we're going to spend next
[16:13] year so total ceter sewer um from the 24
[16:19] adopted budget 1.72 s um and 25 is going
[16:24] be 1714
[16:35] any
[16:40] question Tre
[16:44] disposal
[16:48] again I don't know if you have any
[16:50] specific line items but um you know
[16:53] staff has not changed
[16:56] um um in those uh s
[16:59] um we do have a couple opening currently
[17:02] I think Anthony I sent Anthony the
[17:05] vacancy request I think there's two
[17:08] um two maintenance personnel and uh I
[17:12] two traines um currently um we don't
[17:16] typically find operators um we start the
[17:19] train unforunately operators that
[17:21] usually come over from another
[17:24] municipality usually comfortable
[17:27] so probably by the we just lost one to
[17:30] retirement so um about two weeks ago so
[17:33] we'll probably be looking at filling
[17:34] that by the end of the year so we want
[17:36] to make sure there's no test scheduled
[17:39] for civil service because we want to
[17:41] make sure that we follow those rules and
[17:43] don't get somebody on and can't get the
[17:45] test so the vacancies is that what
[17:48] you're talking about you plan on filling
[17:49] or the one
[17:51] that we'll fill both of those um
[17:54] typically we try to do 10 operators um
[17:57] well 10 operators but normally one in
[18:00] what we'll call one training we'll
[18:02] probably have a couple trainings now
[18:04] again the waste water treatment plant
[18:07] your training um you take the Civil
[18:10] Service EX in because we don't send
[18:11] somebody to school um you know thought
[18:15] if they don't pass the civil service
[18:16] test we're not be retaining so there's
[18:18] an expense to the city there's a twoe
[18:20] course or laboratory there's a week
[18:22] course for activating Sledge um that's a
[18:25] cost the city pays to send them to
[18:27] school but we do that once
[18:29] complete their soci service exam and
[18:32] then um depending on when they do that
[18:36] um we require 3A license we'd like to
[18:39] see a 3A license at the waste water
[18:40] treatment plant and that takes four
[18:43] years of um experience at the plan
[18:45] before you can get a letter
[18:48] of uh from us to um sit down for the
[18:53] state
[18:54] examp get a letter of experience written
[18:57] by the city and then they could
[19:05] Tak other
[19:12] question there's a little bit of an
[19:14] increase in the overtime here again the
[19:16] was water treatment plan is7 operation
[19:19] so holiday Saturday Sunday up and shut
[19:22] down so we do have to fill the Shi
[19:26] if have a
[19:34] any other
[19:46] question see n thank you so much
[19:49] appreciate taking a time to be back here
[19:51] CLE projects yes sorry I think we that
[19:56] were there any question on that we did
[19:58] that already
[19:59] yeah
[20:03] Capital were there any question that
[20:05] need to be addressed
[20:08] on I have says I think um Mr L K went
[20:14] over he said he wasn't really really
[20:15] sure about the water and SE yeah okay just want me a touch Bas quickly
[20:22] capital for for water weal Feld
[20:25] improvements typically we redevelop um
[20:30] trying to do two Wells a year depending
[20:31] on the hours we put on the bo with the
[20:34] amount of hours we put on the wells
[20:36] because of the warm summer last year
[20:38] asked for um $250,000 to try and do two
[20:43] Wells and that's where um contract
[20:46] redevelops those walls cleans them new
[20:49] wall screens we take the motors out
[20:50] Motors go get rewound so it's it's what
[20:53] we call maintenance um you know
[20:56] underalls um the water distribution
[20:59] system repairs and improvements
[21:02] $350,000 that is you water our water
[21:05] bcks and you know replacing um vales um
[21:09] insert vales um so we always try and do
[21:12] something every year um and then the
[21:15] other thing too is we always have some
[21:17] of those emergency once they come off
[21:18] that we just can't handle them we have
[21:19] to have somebody set aside in capital
[21:21] for improvements um
[21:26] so the uh the hdv the H HD van um our um
[21:32] plumbing inspector SL plumber his van is
[21:36] I think it's got to be about 15 years
[21:38] old it's um just it's all the heart so
[21:42] um he does need a new van um he travels
[21:45] all over the city does a lot of work in
[21:47] all our facilities um because he's also
[21:49] the plumber so whether it's any City
[21:52] facility he's rebuilding all the pipes
[21:54] that the Vandal destroyed at um Hil Park
[21:58] um the pickle ball people didn't have
[22:00] water a few weeks ago because somebody
[22:02] broke in and took all the to so um he's
[22:07] he goes all around fixes everything hot
[22:09] water tanks the toilets everything so he
[22:12] does need a b and um that's the request
[22:14] for is in the
[22:16] van that are the three items for water
[22:20] wait we have we're going to be adding
[22:22] one for C and Main yeah PR and Main
[22:25] we're going to do um a million we're
[22:28] going to take a million dollar off of
[22:31] the um wastewater treatment plant bar
[22:33] Spring that million dollars because it's
[22:35] going to be
[22:37] borrowed and talking to Chris Wall that
[22:40] big project for the Craig main project
[22:44] um we have some large water mains here
[22:46] one only goes a couple blocks but there
[22:48] a 30in main that um suffered a break
[22:51] already once last year broke under the
[22:54] bridge was expensive for us to get fixed
[22:57] wasn't something um crew could
[22:59] handle so like we did with these um with
[23:03] Area Boulevard these big projects that
[23:05] are you know 1012 million we need to
[23:08] really go in and look at the
[23:08] infrastructure um before we do all the
[23:11] on top work so we're going to a million
[23:14] we're going to hold off on the bar
[23:16] Springs um design for a year and put
[23:19] that into the Craig main to make sure
[23:21] those water lines get replaced and U
[23:23] everything gets repaired there before we
[23:25] do all the surface work sidewalks
[23:28] everything
[23:29] okay and fig well you want to do a 121
[23:32] 13 million project we wanted the
[23:34] infrastructure to be well we you want to
[23:35] do the project then have to Red dig it
[23:37] and fix it you
[23:39] know we're trying to stay ahead of the
[23:41] game so Anthony you will that you will
[23:43] do that you know this has happened
[23:46] within the last few
[23:48] days sewer collection system repairs and
[23:51] improvements is just like above with
[23:53] water um we do lining do a lot of things
[23:56] in our sewer system a lot of repairs a
[23:59] lot of catch basing so um you know again
[24:02] we're going to continue to work on on
[24:04] major sewer
[24:07] repairs Vehicles obviously we need
[24:10] Vehicles a lot of our vehicles are well
[24:12] over 15 years and some of the smaller
[24:14] ones the um pickup trucks um the utility
[24:18] truck with the crane um so those are
[24:22] replacing just old worn out vehicles
[24:24] that we're putting a lot of money in the
[24:26] wastewater treatment equipment replaced
[24:27] there a list of equipment that um it all
[24:30] adds up to different things with return
[24:32] pumps so we just grew up we grouped it
[24:34] as a equipment
[24:37] replacement um and then the bigger item
[24:40] is the digestor number four upgrades the
[24:43] digestors
[24:45] um there two active digesters at the
[24:49] wastewater treatment plant one holding
[24:50] tank and one
[24:53] secondary they were constructed in the
[24:56] early to mid-50s still utiliz
[24:59] um they still work um but they do need
[25:03] repairs um they reduce the vola solids
[25:05] content and the sledge that we process
[25:07] that makes our Sledge capable of going
[25:09] to different homes when we dispose of it
[25:11] so um without that um we be restricted
[25:15] to more just single landfills where we
[25:18] can move our SED to different places now
[25:21] so um there's a gas system there um
[25:24] people gone by you've seen the flare
[25:26] burning um so again it's just one of the
[25:29] processes that it doesn't turn off there
[25:32] it runs
[25:34] constantly like I said the digestors
[25:36] were mid-50s so they do need some
[25:38] repairs and concrete worth um some of
[25:42] the uh the roof structures they need new
[25:45] seals so new heat exchangers
[25:53] um so then there was a no balance on
[25:56] approximately $7 million be in 2026 so
[25:59] that's going to be put on hold also
[26:00] because you're moving that million
[26:03] dollars yeah the waste water replace the
[26:06] Barre design only um because the
[26:10] upgrades that were done from The Pump
[26:12] Station the for for the Waste Water
[26:13] treatment in the past couple years give
[26:16] you a good example um our plant is
[26:18] designed to do 18 permitted to do 18
[26:21] half million gallons a day when it rains
[26:24] though we we exceed that that's not a
[26:26] violation it's the rain day that
[26:30] the 45 years I've been around um the
[26:33] most we've seen was Hurricane FL was
[26:35] about 39 million gallons um the storm we
[26:39] had say two months ago we hit 52 million
[26:42] gallons going to the plant it's never
[26:44] been there but with we have to handle
[26:47] all this flow now that was part of the
[26:48] consent order that we had so with bar
[26:51] Spring design there is to increase those
[26:55] so they can handle more FL they handle
[26:58] it but it struggles for them and they're
[27:00] also probably 15 years old so we thought
[27:04] we would look at the design this year I
[27:07] get ready and then if the design is
[27:09] there we all know that usually when I
[27:11] look at design it's because I want to
[27:12] try and get great money and if we're
[27:14] designed and shovel ready we have the
[27:17] potential to you know apply for grant
[27:19] money quicker um so you know the bar
[27:24] screens are working wanted to do the
[27:26] design but you know if you look at where
[27:29] your real critical needs are um doing
[27:32] $12 million of work on Craig at Maine
[27:34] and not doing the
[27:37] infrastructure it's a little bit of a
[27:42] tradeoff
[27:44] julo so does this make us does this hurt
[27:49] our ability or likelihood of receiving
[27:51] set grants because we're going to have
[27:52] to hold it off no because it would take
[27:54] them probably a year to keep design I
[27:56] think we we'll be fine I mean this is
[27:58] just something what you you start
[28:00] looking at things you try and look at
[28:01] least I do you
[28:03] know ahead and you know trying to get a
[28:07] jump start on the design you know would
[28:09] have been nice but um we're not you know
[28:11] it's not like they're down they're not
[28:13] going to fail tomorrow um you know but
[28:16] it was to get a jump start um but when
[28:18] you have to look and say what's more
[28:20] critical where should those dollars be
[28:22] SM I think it's um
[28:33] any other question but isn't this
[28:35] holding back the project I if you have
[28:36] the design working you have the design
[28:38] other thing you got to realize once the
[28:40] design is there you know that's the
[28:42] design um I think if you want to look at
[28:45] a budget number to replace those you're
[28:46] probably going to look at about $9
[28:50] million so it's a big project and you
[28:53] know can't you just do the design
[28:56] yeah I old days we had a lot of R there
[29:00] guys would rap the
[29:05] racks in my opinion we can we can
[29:14] here and the other question on this
[29:19] category St on thank you appreciate it
[29:22] you and all your St what you doing you
[29:26] want to you want to discuss
[29:28] it's to
[29:32] you
[29:34] the you any questions here I don't think
[29:37] that the council has been briefed on it
[29:39] at all last time you came you talk about
[29:41] kind of when you were asking about the
[29:42] Seeker but um didn't really go into that
[29:46] and there was a little confusion um and
[29:48] the Seeker obviously we we uh discussed
[29:51] that and I uh last Monday night um it's
[29:54] Ty so there's no environmental impact
[29:57] it's it's a survey so so there's no no but the second part of that was we
[30:04] was the award of the g m um and I think
[30:07] Derek did send something out um this
[30:10] afternoon and it's whether we can get
[30:12] this in because um we were awarded a
[30:15] grant for
[30:16] 6 I say $
[30:28] it's not going to cost us anything it's a grant um but it was part of the
[30:32] Seeker and in order for that to go
[30:34] through we have to have the Seeker which
[30:36] was discussed funny night and the
[30:38] council's approval to just accept that
[30:40] Grant and move forward it's um you know
[30:44] 100% grant money there's no City match
[30:46] it's just grant money um and I'd like to
[30:50] talk to Derek I would like to get it
[30:52] done so that we can move forward because
[30:54] the survey is out it's on the city's
[30:56] website um
[30:58] you know we have a lot of work to finish
[31:00] on this survey um and we do have a
[31:02] consultant that's working with us and
[31:04] now that this Grant's available we can move forward with the consultant
[31:07] and get it done um it's not something
[31:09] that's going to be done instantly
[31:10] because it does involve
[31:13] the we all saw the the surveys whether
[31:16] you have you know a lead service a
[31:17] copper service a plastic or you know
[31:19] galvanized service and again we don't
[31:22] have a big response from um Property
[31:25] Owners getting back to us um
[31:28] confusion the confusion with this uh
[31:30] with the grant was we did the Seeker we
[31:31] knew that was working but because we're
[31:33] told oh you got to have the Seeker apply
[31:36] for a grant so what that happened is
[31:38] once we let them know that's a secret
[31:40] pass and you know you know it's going to
[31:41] pass tonight you know they told us okay
[31:44] we we're we're going to give you a grant
[31:45] so we did not have to do the bond or
[31:47] because they didn't ask us to to do the
[31:50] bond it's not a bond Bing money usually
[31:53] what they do but we want usually what
[31:57] they do is before they give you a grant
[31:59] they want you to be serious and what
[32:01] they do is do Bond ORD so we know you're
[32:02] going to be serious about do this
[32:04] project this one they were just so I
[32:06] think the money they just want to give
[32:07] it to us so they told us we got the
[32:10] grant so we don't need the bond or you
[32:12] know so then we got gr it's not requ
[32:17] just to accept it Bond ORD is not
[32:19] required as part of the application that
[32:21] received to Grant so that's confusion
[32:24] just acceptance of the council accepting
[32:26] the grant
[32:29] so so this money is just to pay for
[32:32] the yes pay consultant and make sure
[32:34] consultant any work um you know any leg
[32:37] work that will have to be done by any
[32:39] other firms can help us because there'll
[32:41] be mailing again because the on surday
[32:43] went out we didn't get a very little
[32:46] response um it will help pay if um we
[32:50] have to get somebody to do door the
[32:53] door you know knock on the door leave a
[32:55] card and you call and set up an
[32:57] appointment
[32:59] the survey is required by EPA it's not
[33:01] something that you can just not do
[33:07] it's and you have to have I'm sorry that
[33:11] was kind of my question what is your
[33:12] plan because you said people aren't
[33:14] sending them back so how do we if if the
[33:17] survey is an absolute must in order to
[33:20] do this how do we how we get some level
[33:22] of completion and is there a uh only a
[33:24] certain amount like sometimes you have
[33:25] to get at least 75% of the people C your
[33:28] an amount 100% has to be 100% okay so
[33:32] what the survey will help pay for okay
[33:34] is like I said the Consulting Services
[33:36] mailing services um what I'll call um
[33:39] foot services for a company to come in
[33:42] and actually look we already discussed
[33:44] it internally with our consultant do
[33:46] like our districts go door to door and
[33:48] leave cards um if that doesn't work um
[33:52] some cities are actually doing holes
[33:54] before and after the curve box to
[33:56] determine it because
[33:58] we have to under the EPA EPA
[34:02] requirement know if we have le service
[34:06] or copper service or whatever it is so
[34:08] they are actually you know boring holes
[34:10] or using a vac truck on each side of the
[34:13] curve box so they can determine what's
[34:14] in there so uh it will help us with that
[34:17] and that's why some of this gr money is
[34:19] there and you know hopefully we will be
[34:22] successful G because an unknown is going
[34:24] to be considered um Le if you under the
[34:27] EPA or regulation if you don't know
[34:29] they're going to consider it
[34:33] left Paul's outlined fairly well there
[34:37] again some of that data is coming in
[34:39] from the survey we're also having
[34:43] plumbers when they're out doing regular
[34:46] work on properties just do an
[34:49] observation of the pipe so they can
[34:50] record it whether it's lead copper
[34:53] galvaniz
[34:56] plastic the timing on this I want to
[34:59] move as quick as we can that money will
[35:01] help us
[35:03] better uh put in place the requirements
[35:06] that the federal government's imposing
[35:08] on so that we'll have the
[35:11] 100%
[35:12] completion the realities will never
[35:15] quite get to the 100% you be in the '90s
[35:17] there be some reason one way or another
[35:20] you won't get in a
[35:22] house those will be designated as
[35:25] led what is
[35:28] uh important in this is the cost of this
[35:33] is
[35:37] huge if we can move ahead of this and
[35:39] we're moving faster than most
[35:41] communities now to get that survey in we
[35:44] would be in better position than for
[35:48] funding for the actual replacement of
[35:51] the lead lines and that's why moving
[35:54] this you think well two weeks doesn't
[35:57] make much difference difference here and
[35:58] there it's one of those things where
[36:00] every little bit of incremental
[36:02] difference in this could have an impact
[36:05] on the final project where we're going
[36:07] to be applying for money to do the
[36:10] actual Replacements and so that
[36:13] appreciate the council's consideration
[36:14] in that and then faster you can move
[36:17] that forward uh I think just sends the
[36:21] message that we're serious about it it's
[36:23] going to give us the resources to be
[36:24] able to do it and be able to actually
[36:26] implement it and then qualifies for
[36:28] additional funding going
[36:32] forward what ask May would it be
[36:35] possible to upload this entire surve on
[36:37] our website I know but people can access
[36:40] it by creating a username password it's
[36:43] to the same survey it's in the format
[36:46] the EPA requires so every city has the
[36:48] same one and I checked with the want
[36:50] today because it has to be out by
[36:51] tomorrow um he said it's on ours I
[36:54] didn't look at it but there's supposed
[36:56] to be a link there um and then that will
[36:59] grow because you know as we get the
[37:01] surveys in or you know um people are
[37:06] also doing this they're calling us
[37:07] because they're not sure so we have our
[37:10] water guys who are going out there
[37:11] they're setting up schedules with home
[37:13] owners to go in their basement and
[37:15] verify it and it gets put on the um on
[37:18] the database right now this is just one
[37:21] it's going to be one big database for
[37:22] every community in the country it's
[37:24] they're all going to have the same
[37:25] format you'll be able to you know plug
[37:27] in an address and you'll be able to see
[37:31] whatever address that is in conect and
[37:32] what that service is and then the next
[37:36] round is going to be like the mayor said
[37:40] we're going to have to be replaced and
[37:41] we don't own the services that's in the
[37:43] city po EPA doesn't really care who owns
[37:46] them um they're going to have to be
[37:48] replaced and that's the essence of this
[37:51] survey is to get this out so when the
[37:52] new round of grant money is available we
[37:55] can apply as quickly as possible and we
[37:57] have a most the most we could have on
[38:00] the survey that we can possibly
[38:02] have so it's going to grow every day you
[38:05] know it's you know that is going to have
[38:07] to get put in we are working with a firm
[38:09] 120 water right now that you know is
[38:12] working with us
[38:15] so goe sure okay so I was just thinking
[38:18] that this might be another opportunity
[38:21] for us to kind of partner with the
[38:22] school district right cuz we're
[38:23] constantly you know getting uh giving
[38:27] and getting information from um the
[38:28] community I think that minimum sharing
[38:32] the the link on the school district
[38:34] survey um asking them to distribute it
[38:37] via their social media but I think that
[38:39] you can kind of um leverage some of the
[38:43] structures within the school district as
[38:44] far as the community outreach goes um
[38:47] especially doesn't seem like it's much
[38:49] of a lift more than just making people
[38:50] aware and asking them to complete the
[38:52] survey from the school districts and I
[38:54] think that that would be a good vehicle
[38:56] to use
[38:57] yeah I mean we're like I said know once
[39:00] this is gone through we have a
[39:02] resolution everything we can work with
[39:03] our consultant again and go to the next
[39:05] step more
[39:07] Outreach
[39:11] and um to the mayor's point Thank You
[39:14] mayor um I'm thinking of newer
[39:16] municipalities that might have a small
[39:18] mix of like Waterford where I came from
[39:21] very small village older infrastructure
[39:23] but then tons of new construction so
[39:26] everyone knows what their new
[39:27] construction is and they're going to be
[39:29] getting their surveys in quicker uh not
[39:31] knowing and the grant money is going to
[39:32] go out so again it's important I think
[39:36] 198 86 or 87 but after that that was the
[39:39] ban on L so if you you know you pre that
[39:43] date you know that's where we really
[39:45] have to look to see if those people will
[39:47] either do the UN home test s us the
[39:49] results or you know call us and we'll go
[39:52] in and take take a look at it the house
[39:54] was built in the 90s we know lead was
[39:56] already banned so um you know those
[39:58] houses can be eliminated or put into the
[40:00] Z as you know not let so okay so is the
[40:06] consultant on board already pardon me
[40:08] you already have the consultant on
[40:10] board yeah we because this had we we had
[40:13] um 120 water working with us and you
[40:16] know now the grant came out so now we
[40:18] can do more because now we grant money
[40:21] so we can now do another survey do more
[40:24] mailings we can we said bring people in
[40:27] the help because the water department
[40:29] stuff can't we you know we we have seven
[40:31] guys we can't go go the door we we just
[40:34] don't have that so um you know this
[40:36] grant will help us to you know reach out
[40:40] to more people in different ways said
[40:43] whether it's mailing whether it's
[40:44] working with the school or whether it's
[40:46] just you know feet foot on the ground I
[40:49] don't to door door and you know we want
[40:51] to probably start in the neighborhoods
[40:53] that we know are um affected because
[40:56] they're they
[40:57] neighborhoods um and when you know where you have multiple family
[41:02] homes like one two three units and you
[41:04] have children at the house sort of like
[41:06] a light paint um issue so light
[41:13] paint this is something that all of us
[41:15] at this table here is going to have to
[41:17] help we're going to have to put our
[41:19] effort to make sure that we help spread
[41:21] the message out there and the
[41:23] neighborhood association there meting
[41:25] that department had me Council are
[41:28] attending please take a moment to
[41:30] highlight it and to help all of us help
[41:34] spread the awareness and to encourage
[41:36] people to um get the
[41:41] survey you to three so far pardon me
[41:45] three so far I did Mana I did Stockade I
[41:48] did um North End uh and G um B un forun
[41:55] was the same night we were here last
[41:56] Thursday
[41:57] and at G so
[42:00] I spread a
[42:04] little would you consider doing a press
[42:06] release out or have you done
[42:09] yeah we can do one from the council to
[42:12] typ of thing where it's not just one
[42:13] event it's like every day you got to do
[42:16] something to raise the awareness get
[42:18] people to fill it out Mr Farley
[42:21] suggestion of school
[42:23] district I think kids a lot of times buy
[42:26] into this quicker than the parents and
[42:29] they may be able to motivate their
[42:30] parents to look at the pipes and see
[42:33] what it is where the kids in fact can
[42:35] buest
[42:36] parents help them
[42:38] complete good test is a magnet the good
[42:41] magnet won't stick
[42:42] to could be a really good homework
[42:45] assignment maget stick to copper the
[42:48] magnet SS to Copper it won't stick to at
[42:50] all I know won stick to I think you
[42:52] stick for C that's the big test and I I
[42:54] have some things that one point water
[42:56] has already
[42:57] given us to you know they' mailed their
[43:00] stuff out can work with 121 they they've
[43:04] done this to with other communities are
[43:06] we're not the First Community work with
[43:08] or working with
[43:09] so
[43:11] okay so let us all get on board you
[43:13] don't have a choice and um make it
[43:17] happen any other questions for Paul or
[43:21] what what what is take away from this
[43:22] are we moving forward anything tonight
[43:24] or we just what what's the take away
[43:26] here well I thought you were my
[43:27] understanding is going to be brought
[43:28] forth on the next um committee cycle we
[43:30] just got even though um we just got it
[43:32] today just got it today even though
[43:34] there's no way to move it though even
[43:35] though it's just just saying we'll take
[43:38] you
[43:39] 637000 because all the did all the
[43:41] council members get what you sent to
[43:42] me no something to Sam okay because it
[43:46] was always like I'm I'm just always cent
[43:49] of the fact that everyone's not informed
[43:51] and didn't get all the information
[43:53] including the public and I just got it
[43:55] today and I see a hand that
[43:58] there yes you
[44:08] can
[44:11] get you can by Anonymous consent we do
[44:14] have a resolution written if the council
[44:17] so chooses you can choose to pass it
[44:23] mously can that share can that share um
[44:28] the backup document um email to council
[44:31] now so that we can get a couple minutes
[44:32] to review
[44:37] it you have it you don't have the backup
[44:40] back and then just to be clear the
[44:42] backup is October 7th but that that
[44:44] document was not present at that
[44:46] committee meeting I just
[44:48] want who has the document
[44:53] direct yes it wasn't of the the commit
[44:57] anyone would think it was there and we didn't have
[45:01] it okay can can we can we get a few
[45:04] heart
[45:05] copies you don't
[45:07] mind we're going to utilize a couple
[45:09] minutes so just and see where we
[45:22] are so let me ask question I think you
[45:25] mentioned about the
[45:27] so is uploaded online so if I were to go
[45:30] online to log in I can access that
[45:34] specific code from my
[45:37] property
[45:39] no put in your you have
[45:42] your the survey is just there for that
[45:45] you can't you can't add anything to that
[45:47] okay you can't do you you have to send
[45:50] the survey to 120 water or phis or call
[45:54] and we end it because the general can't
[45:57] access and change data you know what I'm
[45:59] saying so the data is there for you to
[46:01] look at as it grows oh so look but you
[46:04] can't yeah and you
[46:07] know example say you were to buy
[46:11] property such and such State Street you
[46:13] can look at that and you'll know
[46:16] Services coer POS no I I was more driven
[46:19] towards um the survey online you can
[46:23] complete the survey by creating a
[46:25] username password and direct to your
[46:27] information with a code so that way you
[46:30] are specific to what we asking for
[46:32] there's a there's a
[46:34] yeah the QR code on the postcard went to
[46:40] the website which allowed you to put it
[46:42] in so when you're going to the
[46:46] website on the city site you don't put
[46:48] in QR code you just put in your address
[46:52] the QR code is going to it's going to go
[46:54] the information you put in through the
[46:55] QR code is going to go to 12 water
[46:57] because they're the ones who developed
[46:58] everything for us and they all enter the
[47:01] data um into the survey and then um yeah
[47:05] you know and then you can look at the
[47:07] survey but the QR code doesn't directly
[47:10] have you input into
[47:13] the go ahead please is there a way for
[47:16] someone to see whether in fact they
[47:18] already did the survey um you know if
[47:21] they don't remember doing yeah there'll
[47:22] be there'll be some lag because men you
[47:25] know it's not like somebody sitting 12
[47:27] water
[47:29] and one put it
[47:33] in of work
[47:35] process it's going to take um good
[47:39] example I've tried to get
[47:41] into 17 properties um for another
[47:45] project we're doing and it's been months
[47:47] and I still can't get into for they
[47:50] don't want to let
[47:51] me do you suggest we mailed them I
[47:54] mailed mine but I was talking with Phil
[47:56] she said just to drop them off is there
[47:57] a preference people have dropped them
[47:59] off to us people have mailed them one
[48:02] thing I wor about you
[48:04] know could you come because people
[48:06] complain that they hear somebody in the
[48:07] background talking and they don't know
[48:09] who it
[48:10] is a lot of people are botom in in fact
[48:13] one gentleman brought probably about six
[48:15] or seven of them in you know have
[48:17] apartment buildings um which is nice cuz
[48:20] then we get them um the thing with
[48:22] mailing them
[48:24] um sometimes the mail just doesn't get
[48:26] to it
[48:27] um and sometimes the mail um didn't get
[48:30] out we you know gave them you know a a
[48:34] list from assessment of all the
[48:36] properties where things have to be
[48:37] mailed and you know even a few people
[48:40] within the water department never
[48:41] received them but their names were on
[48:43] the list but you know sometimes you know
[48:46] things do get lost in the mail
[48:48] unfortunately so that's why you know
[48:51] we'll do another repeat mailing because
[48:53] it's you don't know if somebody just
[48:56] didn't get it
[49:01] I think the next step we probably put
[49:02] something in you know in the media paper
[49:04] some other places um like I said we are
[49:08] scheduling appointments through staff
[49:10] within the water department to go out
[49:13] and they've even gone to a couple
[49:14] properties um when people have come home
[49:16] from work because people to work at 8:00
[49:19] sometimes they have come home and some
[49:20] my water staff had just gone over to
[49:21] verify it you know 4:30 5:00
[49:28] since since there are consideration to
[49:30] do another mailing me would you consider
[49:32] um doing a letter from your office to
[49:34] can highlight the importance yeah we're
[49:36] looking all these suggestions than
[49:39] willing to do it direct mailing from
[49:42] your office to highlight the importance
[49:44] and why they should complete it it's not
[49:46] like you receive it to just leave it
[49:48] there and is there indate for the
[49:53] survey EPA would like to have an end
[49:57] I think reality is you know it's going
[50:00] to take you know a lot of a while to get
[50:05] through I'm just thinking people are
[50:06] starting to do things around the
[50:07] holidays and so there'll be places where
[50:09] a lot of people will come and be GA and
[50:11] that might be an opportunity I just
[50:13] that's why I want to know if there's an
[50:15] ending we're going to keep doing it
[50:17] until we know we've got you know the
[50:19] mayor said hopefully in a 90 pertile of
[50:21] the you know the properties completed
[50:23] and um hopefully by then um
[50:27] when we're done with that there will be
[50:28] some opportunities to apply for some
[50:31] grant money to actually do The
[50:34] Replacements the service line
[50:35] replacement because we know that's going
[50:37] to be next the surveys is only going to
[50:39] lead to you know
[50:43] Replacements go ahead please I'm sure
[50:45] you code right because you have to pull
[50:47] or permit the so you know what
[50:50] properties maybe have been done over the
[50:51] past we looked we have old index cards
[50:54] that we've tried to find up in the AR
[50:57] you know um some of my staff down is
[51:00] very good um you know permit process has
[51:03] gotten better and like the mayor said
[51:05] when plumbers go in now to pull a permit
[51:08] um they're checking for us because
[51:10] they're going to the house normally
[51:12] they're already you know residents
[51:14] already let them in because they're
[51:15] going to do some Plumbing work and it's
[51:17] just really looking at the place coming
[51:18] through the wall it's
[51:20] just it's CER for good and does so the
[51:25] mail do they go to the Property Owners
[51:28] or the property itself because to the
[51:31] property owner the um owner of
[51:35] record because they send it just to the
[51:38] yeah that I some tenants are just going
[51:41] to they're going the list that we got
[51:44] from Molly is the actual where tax be to
[51:47] and some do are going to end up in um
[51:49] you know ESC because some people don't
[51:51] oh so you know
[51:54] we we're hoping we can we get there
[51:57] um I have a question now about the
[51:59] resolution that that um been put forward
[52:02] it says that the agreement agreement
[52:03] with under there um the last
[52:10] there's um so the last therefore be
[52:13] resolved it says there's a agreement
[52:15] with cha so um is that's the company
[52:19] that would also be trying to getting
[52:21] people to go door to door or is that
[52:23] something that CH works for a
[52:25] subcontractor um 120 water okay so they
[52:30] would be the ones yes we would contract
[52:32] with cha to to recruit people to go door
[52:35] too they would do everything they would
[52:37] work with 120 water and they would
[52:39] recruit with people um to go door to
[52:41] door CH is the engineering firm that has
[52:45] done most of our work so they're the
[52:48] lead on this and they would work with us
[52:53] and some of us for all say it's coming
[52:55] in slower than we'd like it's the
[52:58] reality what every communities in we'll
[53:01] still learn from that you know are there
[53:03] you know some neighborhoods where we
[53:05] have more information other
[53:06] neighborhoods where we don't so from
[53:09] that and just our discussion here
[53:10] hopefully we'll get a little press
[53:12] coverage and you know so where do we
[53:15] have to concentrate our efforts to again
[53:18] get that data in place and have it in an
[53:21] accurate manner so I'm really familiar
[53:24] with um cha obviously but I was
[53:26] wondering is there an opportunity I'm
[53:28] always thinking there an opportunity for
[53:29] people who are uh maybe uner commun who
[53:33] go right work within their community and
[53:35] have an opportunity to be able to get
[53:38] this pum for however long it is and so
[53:42] for us to be able to have that input as
[53:44] opposed to Cha may have a form that they
[53:46] normally use and they go to people so
[53:49] how can we maybe um have the opportunity
[53:51] to to recruit people from the community
[53:55] I was thinking deputize and Mr Farley's
[53:58] students he identifies
[54:01] move we might do some adults as
[54:09] well but seriously I think
[54:11] [Music]
[54:12] that to be effective that's definitely
[54:15] something we have to look
[54:20] at normally with these grants are Force
[54:23] accounts too so if you want to utilize
[54:24] your own staff um you can utilize that
[54:28] reimburse yourselves through the grant
[54:30] too they're they're called Force
[54:32] [Music]
[54:33] account so these grants so if you know
[54:36] if you wanted
[54:37] to we had some people that wanted to go
[54:40] out go to door too um we could get first
[54:43] city staff yes oh those are those are
[54:45] the force accounts there is a form in
[54:47] part of the grants that called Force
[54:50] accounts it's just it's there want use
[54:54] it sounds like
[54:57] jobs program president almost sounds
[55:00] like you could might be a jobs program
[55:03] in there some or something for I think
[55:06] there people people might want to do it
[55:08] so but I think we should present the
[55:11] opportunity
[55:19] [Applause]
[55:39] this
[56:06] did you send this to me the
[56:08] resolution no because we did it late day
[56:11] brought
[56:26] ch
[57:20] we just reading the next last paragraph
[57:23] in the letter about the second
[57:28] the
[57:29] DAT is the April date yes
[57:43] yeah that we had sent here yes we did I
[57:47] did that I sent that in yes yeah because
[57:51] um this letter came out in March and
[57:56] April 19th I think it was the day that
[57:57] it had to
[57:59] be it was s
[58:01] it's
[58:03] said we're going to get the so we
[58:05] actually accepted the grant like months
[58:07] ago no we said that we were pursuing it
[58:11] we wanted to do it and then the actual
[58:14] award said wasn't given to us till when
[58:17] Anthony we
[58:19] said we got the paper work today so what
[58:22] it what it is is you you're you're in
[58:25] line for the grand Grant if you want the
[58:27] grant you send the acceptance then you
[58:30] have to do the followup paperwork which
[58:32] is the resolution for the Seeker which
[58:34] is the actual acceptance as a resolution
[58:37] of the grant this is so that they don't
[58:39] if you don't respond by a certain date
[58:41] they're going to take the money give it
[58:42] to somebody
[58:43] else so that money has been on hold so
[58:46] we have you know there's a there's a
[58:47] period of time where we can do certain
[58:49] things and one is the resolution yes the
[58:53] grant is still there they're just
[58:55] waiting now for resolution on the seeker
[58:57] and a resolution to officially accept
[59:00] the Grant and then they'll do a contract
[59:02] no contract they design he just signed
[59:04] an acceptance we would like the grant so
[59:07] now we we'll get a once we send them
[59:10] this the grant will be
[59:18] finalized if we would like
[59:36] so this would have to go on for for me
[59:38] this consent we can't pass it we have to
[59:41] yeah yeah that's I'm say this is not a
[59:42] finance thing so we all have to U
[59:48] agree so um I guess we'll just basically
[59:51] just ask to make sure that everyone no
[59:53] one is opposed to this so start over
[59:56] here no no opposition to this I'm sorry
[1:00:01] no opposition to this I'm in favor yes
[1:00:04] vote Yes same mayor I'm okay with this
[1:00:06] to move forward totally okay I'm in
[1:00:09] favor of it I'm
[1:00:11] favor all right so we'll have to clear
[1:00:13] out
[1:00:17] upstairs so um Mr you want to move from
[1:00:20] the floor and then you'll need a second
[1:00:22] on that we have to take it from the
[1:00:23] floor yes we can yes yeah so we you have
[1:00:27] to make any corrections
[1:00:31] this yes we'll do that and yes from the
[1:00:35] Flo and we Finance somebody from Finance
[1:00:39] yeah again second doesn't matter can we
[1:00:42] reset so we can get work done yes that's
[1:00:45] I want to say I don't think we have time
[1:00:46] to to go in into these reports and
[1:00:48] things like that so I'm going to reset
[1:00:51] the finance committee for
[1:00:53] tomorrow 5:30 p.m. right here room 110
[1:00:57] to continue our um budget um negotiation
[1:01:01] sounds good motion on the favor second
[1:01:06] all in favor I thank you thank you
[1:01:14] [Music]
[1:01:49] okay I'll me