1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,429 thank 2 00:00:06,439 --> 00:00:22,020 you oh thank you 3 00:00:22,030 --> 00:00:54,029 [Music] 4 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:55,680 like to call the EMP city council 5 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,320 committee meeting for 6 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Wednesday October 7 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,280 we have one 8 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,680 committee Finance thank you madam 9 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,280 president I would like to reconvene the 10 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,320 finance committee and we will continue 11 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:14,840 um our discussion regarding the 2025 um 12 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,560 proposed um 13 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,640 budget just to summarize we um concluded 14 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,520 our um hearing with the various 15 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,159 department heads and um tonight what I'm 16 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:26,640 going to ask there's a lot of reports 17 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,479 that are submit to us um that we 18 00:01:29,479 --> 00:01:32,159 requested some of us what I'll do I'll 19 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,280 just go through the reports one by one 20 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 and ask any questions after we finish 21 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,520 that then we'll we'll start an open 22 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,040 discussion of where we um what 23 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,799 suggestion we have 24 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:47,159 or and we an open dialogue as we move 25 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:49,399 forward U into any recommendation that 26 00:01:49,399 --> 00:01:50,680 we may 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 have so this evening um we have this one 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,680 here on Top This is the um report from 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,640 um B regards to the bre D or $710,000 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,759 and that has to do with the street 31 00:02:03,759 --> 00:02:09,850 lighting administrative expense 32 00:02:09,860 --> 00:02:17,670 [Music] 33 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,319 CLI on time if you have any 34 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:28,830 questions can help here 35 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,000 questions one of the the discuss 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,480 recommendation was to um 37 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,200 create another line instead of moving 38 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,599 some of these from administrative 39 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:39,760 expense that doesn't belong to 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,920 administrative expense to separate 402a 41 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:44,760 or one we were going to call it software 42 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,879 and equipment that okay with 43 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:50,319 you that's fin me I mean what the other 44 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,400 member think about it so that 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,760 WEP separate what is what is equipment 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,319 and what is actually administrative 47 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:00,599 exence 48 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:03,959 this is all software stuff here so so do 49 00:03:03,959 --> 00:03:06,959 we name the entire line no we'll have to 50 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:11,360 add another line 402 what is it 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,680 A2 believe B actually going to be 52 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,640 427 a518 53 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,239 4277 54 00:03:21,239 --> 00:03:24,480 yeah it's to be called software okay 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:30,149 yeah 56 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:34,120 what are you going to name it software yeah it's all software or 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Hardware to this is software and 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,869 Hardware this is mostly all 59 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:45,480 software server upgrades maintenance 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,040 lies 61 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:54,710 renewals software 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,519 renewals we have a we have a a count 63 00:03:57,519 --> 00:04:04,360 master in the count 27 is sof so oh okay that's want to know where we coming 64 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:10,390 to the 427 okay got 65 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,000 you all we go to this one here any 66 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,749 um question on the 67 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:24,000 breakdown the next one I'm going to go 68 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,960 the is the 69 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 arpa it's a break that we have we 70 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,639 received from Anthony regards to the 71 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:34,440 arpa spending and this 72 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:52,540 CH the arpa 73 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:54,160 [Music] 74 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,919 funding okay sorry I I have them in my 75 00:04:57,919 --> 00:04:59,360 order you may not have them in your 76 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,310 order 77 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,070 that's 78 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,680 it this copy here want no no we have we 79 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,280 should have copies everyone if you need 80 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,120 copies by any chance let us know or we 81 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,670 can share 82 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:31,790 [Music] 83 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,840 is the office open 84 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,330 S is the office open 85 00:05:37,330 --> 00:05:46,080 [Music] 86 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,490 yes two copies of 87 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:53,400 [Music] 88 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:01,270 this I 89 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:05,909 [Music] 90 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:07,600 we can make copies 91 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:36,039 [Music] 92 00:06:36,039 --> 00:06:43,710 a little 93 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,000 festivity everyone should have a copy of 94 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,280 this report here from um from fam with 95 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:49,400 regards to the 96 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,280 compensation for the reg 97 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,039 that 98 00:06:56,039 --> 00:07:00,080 yes please um P this if you have 99 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,120 questions we can uh we the stand and we 100 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,319 can go with 101 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:07,080 this but this is just telling us exactly 102 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:21,150 what 103 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:27,749 uh anybody need a copy of 104 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,800 this okay so have a copy so we can go 105 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,440 over um this if we have any questions 106 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,620 please um 107 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:54,270 [Music] 108 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,919 ask I he the questions go ahead please 109 00:07:56,919 --> 00:07:59,960 call me so um a441 110 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:01,759 assistant and city engineer moved to 111 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,000 police you explain that pleas yeah as 112 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,840 you Rec call remember the first day here 113 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 that was the long line we eliminated 114 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,000 that so what happened went to police 115 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,080 over time so the money that was there 116 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,639 yeah yeah because it was not an Aral 117 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:20,039 line because the uh the Aral line for 118 00:08:20,039 --> 00:08:22,960 assistant police chief the assistant uh 119 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,319 engineer we eliminated that 120 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:28,039 position and how much was that I believe 121 00:08:28,039 --> 00:08:30,639 it was 90,000 122 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,120 0 123 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,919 $19 probably in the first budget right 124 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,719 go ahead please I just wanted uh to 125 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:43,839 recall too uh uh we reduced uh peace 126 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:46,399 overtime and fire overtime by 127 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:49,160 30,000 because we want to supplement the 128 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,120 senior center program with arpa so we 129 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,600 took the arle money from police of fire 130 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,440 I spoke about this and we took it and we 131 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,600 moved it to Senior Center ARA yeah um 132 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,560 the question the question on that can we take that $6,000 from somewhere 133 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,040 else take a 134 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,279 look I I I would suggest that we take a 135 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:16,880 look and see if we can take that 136 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 somewhere from somewhere else 137 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,560 good um if you don't mind please make a 138 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:26,399 note of that so it's 30,000 plus 30 on 139 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:31,710 the Fire 140 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,279 it it doesn't show is something yeah you 141 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:36,640 did talk about it and then I think there 142 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,600 was some question around it Patrick has 143 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,320 some question about that too so why why 144 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,640 take it from the police Empire yeah so 145 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,720 recommendation is that if we can find 146 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,720 somewhere else take 147 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,399 it was it for for me it was like the 148 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,240 spur a moment thing that was the easiest 149 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,079 thing to pick 150 00:09:56,079 --> 00:09:57,959 up well we don't want to be the 151 00:09:57,959 --> 00:10:00,000 newspaper tomorrow that we're taking 152 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,269 the 153 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:09,920 police 154 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,720 so my big question is $3 million of arpa 155 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,880 funding for these um these position or 156 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,480 you know or or supplies or 157 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,880 equipments if we were to carry this into 158 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,760 next year and we don't have offer we 159 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,320 have to find $3 160 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:42,550 million to to sustain 161 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,639 this how how do we I'm trying to you 162 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,920 know be careful what I say how how are 163 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:54,069 we in appro genic here in terms of 164 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:57,800 this I have always looked at our our 165 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,279 biggest liabilities it's also one of our 166 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:02,760 biggest assets it's distressed 167 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,959 property so we doing the foreclosures 168 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:10,200 how do we bring it in and be able to 169 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,639 Market it 170 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:15,920 uh we keep chipping away at it as you 171 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,760 drive through neighborhoods you see the 172 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,279 improvements people are fixing up their 173 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:22,760 houses uh some of the sales of course 174 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,600 are not perfect but most of them done 175 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,680 are good stories people gone in bought 176 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,720 the houses fixed them up are living 177 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,360 there even ones that have been flipped 178 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,399 which you know it's not necessarily the 179 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:41,360 primary goal of the uh my Administration 180 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,600 for the council but we end up being 181 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,560 owner occupied houses and so that is 182 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,160 still an area 183 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,880 where 184 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,720 there's call it roughly $4 185 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,720 million in potential revenue and the 186 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,440 other side of it is the reduction 187 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,160 in general operating expenses so we 188 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,839 don't have to send code enforcement out 189 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:09,920 we don't have to send the police inqu 190 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,880 there we're not babysitting it uh and it 191 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,199 also encourages the adjacent Property 192 00:12:16,199 --> 00:12:18,000 Owners feel more comfortable in fixing 193 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,279 their property 194 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:22,760 up and this lead me to ask a question in 195 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,279 terms of the um Law Department hiring um 196 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:30,760 assistant operation Council 197 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,680 um there be any consideration to 198 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:38,680 hire one or few or three to with real 199 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:45,360 estate experience to help you push the sales is that something that can be 200 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,160 considered so can I strengthen the 201 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:52,680 office with more of legal yes it could be considered yes it is 202 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:56,519 considered and some of that is also uh 203 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,600 some of a dynamic process so that if in 204 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,720 fact we can get all the properties lined 205 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,920 up do the foreclosures be able to Market 206 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,959 them we can look to 207 00:13:08,959 --> 00:13:13,199 either uh bring people on to be on staff 208 00:13:13,199 --> 00:13:17,279 or reach out to existing law firms who 209 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:20,440 uh as we do for labor attorneys we have 210 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,560 firms on retainer that we pay more on an 211 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:27,040 as needed basis than as opposed to a 212 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,480 regular salary so that that builds some 213 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,160 flexibility into it where if we can use 214 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,519 the existing staff we'll do that if the 215 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:39,079 workload shifts or the opportunity is 216 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:42,040 there to move uh bigger projects or 217 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,279 bigger numbers that we have the ability 218 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:47,199 to go up and bring in outside 219 00:13:47,199 --> 00:13:49,760 Council yeah that that kind of lead me 220 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,800 back to you mentioned just about we're 221 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,839 seeing the impact in our neigh that 222 00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:55,639 people are investing people are you know 223 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:57,800 buying these houses they're spending a 224 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,240 lot of money but um My Little concern is 225 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,440 that 226 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,199 we i' say we going to put all of us in 227 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:07,000 that that we kind of lack code 228 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,399 enforcement what you mentioned I'm going 229 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:09,839 to use your word the common sense 230 00:14:09,839 --> 00:14:12,240 approach to what's happening there and 231 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,600 I'm glad that you doing something here 232 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 to address those things and kind of 233 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,800 address it nip it in the but can move on 234 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,399 apply Common Sense where we cannot we 235 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:24,000 need to bring people in right to provide 236 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,639 the service and if we are driving in 237 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,480 away we're losing revenue and what's 238 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,040 happening in some areas right now 239 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,000 because I don't feel people are talking 240 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,399 to me that why do I want to come in here 241 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:37,959 to do service when I have to wait you 242 00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:40,720 know six weeks four weeks so that and I 243 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 know that you approach that very your 244 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 message loud and 245 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,079 clear deal that no I'm just talking 246 00:14:47,079 --> 00:14:48,399 about it but you did you did approach it 247 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:50,120 and you put things in place and put some 248 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,759 changes so I just want to commend you on 249 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:53,600 that because those things if we didn't 250 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,320 address it it would have created a m 251 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,600 impact with C enforcement providing 252 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,639 service 253 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:03,639 to our home and some people do use an 254 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:07,720 example your family had a extremely 255 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,990 severe fire on 8th 256 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,759 Avenue 257 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:18,160 uh Fire Chiefs here they did a good job 258 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,560 came in uh you 259 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,279 know that house has basically been fully 260 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:27,759 restored yes there's one two blocks down 261 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:30,279 that is still sitting there there I was 262 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:33,040 there uh two days ago looking at it 263 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,639 again it's one where we've got a follow 264 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:38,480 up on uh you know again it was a tragic 265 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,040 event I believe that building had 266 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,040 insurance but you know people are just 267 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,279 making poor choices where you get a a 268 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:48,639 house that sits there 269 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,319 uh burned out vacant and uh you know 270 00:15:52,319 --> 00:15:54,839 it's really a negative influence where 271 00:15:54,839 --> 00:15:56,880 you come the example where you turned it 272 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,399 around and your family fixed up and yeah 273 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:02,120 he did a good job and thanks to the Fire 274 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,759 Department chief was there through the 275 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:06,319 day with his with his firefighters did a 276 00:16:06,319 --> 00:16:09,000 good job death fire out himself yeah no 277 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,399 he didn't I would say that um he was he 278 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,040 was there with know Serv and they restor 279 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,360 that building way before they got the 280 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,959 insurance money so they were aggressive 281 00:16:17,959 --> 00:16:20,000 they know what they have to do and 282 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,880 that's a that's a good example of people 283 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,509 taking responsibility and now leaving it 284 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,639 behind so mayor are you you said that we 285 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:31,480 have like $4 million in properties 286 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,480 distress properties currently that we 287 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 well approximately that if we sell them 288 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,120 that's what I'm proposing in the 25 289 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,990 budget 290 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,600 and you your questions on the 25 Budget 291 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,600 on the 26 budget of course the 26 budget 292 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,759 is harder to project but if we continue 293 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:00,839 to chip away on it there's real 294 00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:04,919 value so not not in the 25 that you're 295 00:17:04,919 --> 00:17:07,280 projecting it for the 20 that we sell 296 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,439 that because it's not in terms of U 297 00:17:10,439 --> 00:17:14,600 Revenue it's not showing there so yeah I think that was a question is that 298 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,679 this is this in this budget when we come 299 00:17:16,679 --> 00:17:18,679 next year for the 2026 budget we're 300 00:17:18,679 --> 00:17:19,880 going to have we're going to have to 301 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,679 locate $3 million that's what the M 302 00:17:22,679 --> 00:17:25,160 seeing towards where we are stearing on 303 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 $4 million in home sales right that can 304 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,120 help to offset this so that will show up 305 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:35,320 in revenue for the 2026 budget 306 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,760 corre ahead I'm sorry I'm just a little 307 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,799 confused about that so we do have it in 308 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:41,960 the 25 budget that we're projecting to 309 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,240 bring in um 4.5 million in home sales um 310 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,630 and so but we also 311 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,559 have the co assistance of this 3 million 312 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:00,400 in the revenue of the budget 313 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,679 so um so we still would have to make up 314 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:06,000 like a million something is that what 315 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,880 we're thinking question is if we were to 316 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,480 keep if we were to say okay we're going 317 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,440 to take the 2025 budget as is into 318 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,360 2026 how do we fund this AR allocation 319 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,720 where do we account for this $3 million 320 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,360 understand I understand but so would we 321 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,520 have to sell even more property I guess 322 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,799 is what I'm trying to say back down the 323 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:29,480 taxx roles so 324 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,640 tax revenue goes up gotcha is it's a 325 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,080 it's not it's an overly simplistic 326 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,720 analysis to say everything shows up in 327 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,640 one line so there's actually when people 328 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,880 fix their property up there's sales tax 329 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,240 revenue that goes out uh on our closings 330 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:53,039 now we we charge the $500 in advance for 331 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:57,120 putting the permit system in place uh so 332 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,080 again there's additional Revenue there 333 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,679 in reduction in expenses there's a 334 00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:03,520 combination add that is a tax base 335 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,919 increase the sale of the property 336 00:19:04,919 --> 00:19:07,880 mortgage tax and the the fees permit 337 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,559 fees I understand that thank you 338 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:11,799 combination of 339 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:14,640 everything 2026 no I just want to bring 340 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,320 that to the table so I don't want to 341 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,799 feel that well we're we're scaring on 342 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:20,720 anything there there opportunity out 343 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,280 there to address 344 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,919 this and also this doesn't include the 345 00:19:24,919 --> 00:19:26,400 um the pending sales that we talked 346 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,360 about couple days ago right when does or 347 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:31,520 maybe I should say does that figure 348 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,200 include those sales those 29 I think 349 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,320 prob some of it is going to happen in 24 350 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,240 okay some of it the nature of the 351 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,720 closings May drag 352 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,760 into 353 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,799 25 and we sometimes play around with it 354 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:54,159 a little bit in December you credit it 355 00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:57,880 in 24 or you credit it in 25 finance 356 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,440 department looks at it where was the 357 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,640 good 358 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,000 faith uh date that we thought it was 359 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,470 going to happen 360 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,029 so thank 361 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:16,080 you any other question on this 362 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,159 um see then move forward the next one 363 00:20:21,159 --> 00:20:24,039 um we should all have this um from Sam 364 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,960 and just explain the register 365 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840 on the money that was to that line is 366 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,960 not really as 367 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,440 tight so we just want to make sure that 368 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,960 we address 369 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:47,549 [Music] 370 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,039 that the next report is um what I would 371 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:55,000 say smart city so yeah Smart City 372 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,799 allocation we should all have this 373 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:00,230 report here 374 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:26,789 this is a breakdown from 20 2018 192 375 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,960 21 that 376 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,070 it was 377 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,720 $100 I remember 378 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:41,830 being yeah but I print print 379 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,080 on I'm sure I have it I just have to 380 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:55,390 find it 381 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,390 [Music] 382 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,159 just down we can make 383 00:22:03,159 --> 00:22:05,679 copies yeah that's fine we make copies 384 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:10,510 we have to go through 385 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,240 sorry 386 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,440 Char what's the name of it smart city oh 387 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,039 it was a newer one one new 388 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,720 on oh I have it right here on top yeah 389 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,799 for everyone 390 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:30,430 yes every report i reive y 391 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:43,660 oh okay 392 00:22:43,670 --> 00:23:01,679 [Music] 393 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:02,840 in the meantime you can you can pull 394 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,720 these two report these were questions 395 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,450 from um um 396 00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:30,789 [Music] 397 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:31,919 and the reason why I'm doing is you want 398 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:33,200 to make sure that we address all the 399 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,559 reports that was asked and provide to us 400 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,159 I I don't want to leave any behind and 401 00:23:37,159 --> 00:23:40,039 leave anything that is not um you know 402 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,840 discussed and if there's any outstanding 403 00:23:42,840 --> 00:24:00,430 questions you are welcome to us 404 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,880 Anthony anything that we need to brief 405 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,200 on here or this straight forward I think 406 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,919 it's pretty straight forward if you look 407 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:07,760 at the bottom part tells you what the 408 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,960 approved budget was tells you you know 409 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,720 any adjustments we made uh then it has 410 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,039 the approved budget amounts and then 411 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,440 expenditures through uh uh 412 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,360 2024 uh and then the over or the 413 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,440 balances are on the bottom line just 414 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,120 wanted to make sure to to let you know 415 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:29,120 the CV CV connection ig9 416 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,799 that is the cdbg grant through the state 417 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:34,880 that we received those funds um which 418 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,679 initially were just about to be receive 419 00:24:36,679 --> 00:24:39,159 those funds we are finishing up we have 420 00:24:39,159 --> 00:24:42,520 balance of 50,000 left and U as the 421 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,039 matter right they're still they're still 422 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:46,640 putting fiber in the ground right 423 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,480 correct it's 424 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,830 200,000 still out there 425 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,600 b for everything 426 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,600 off can get next the real value of that 427 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,279 project we some of who going to do an 428 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,360 executive set give a briefing on the 429 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,039 fire today but some of the things that 430 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:14,559 were uh deployed or used every day but 431 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:19,640 the fiber is going to be there for 50 or 432 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,480 100 years it's like water and sewer 433 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,360 telephone uh so more 434 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,159 things develop and can utilize that's 435 00:25:29,159 --> 00:25:33,269 going to be the full value of that 436 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:40,630 project any question on this smart City 437 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,440 allocation see now we move to um the 438 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,760 questions Miss Patrick I think some of 439 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,400 these were they were they were 440 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,080 [Music] 441 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,520 answer oh yeah I think we went we went 442 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,320 over them in detail at each of them 443 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,559 meeting so I'm comfortable but I I don't 444 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,480 know if anybody else anybody has any 445 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,470 followup to these 446 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720 questions see none we'll move to the 447 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,159 um we should all have go ahead sorry 448 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:14,279 please yeah um this question was asked 449 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,240 on the 9th of um of October and there is 450 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,880 the reduction in the public safety 451 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,360 foundation and so we yes I I have that a 452 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:29,600 note to talk about um the $5,000 yes 453 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,760 yeah well we can you can go ahead talk 454 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,799 about it so um that that was my question 455 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,240 I know that they said they were asked to 456 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720 reduce their budget and it was 25,000 457 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,240 and that's like what they do with 458 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Community engagement being out there and 459 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,559 all that and so that budget was reduced 460 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:44,279 to 461 00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:45,840 $5,000 462 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,240 so the the fire department remain the 463 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,120 same 25,000 but 20,000 is taken out of 464 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,120 here and so if we're really talking 465 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,960 about Community engagement all that in 466 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,320 terms of police with the community I 467 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,880 think we should we consider trying to 468 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,799 put that back on that budget line and 469 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,279 the other Dynamic with that is Public 470 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:10,559 Safety Foundation some of it uh real 471 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:14,279 goal is to have both departments work 472 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,480 with individuals within the community 473 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240 and do some independent fundraises the 474 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,399 old D program used to do a haunted house 475 00:27:23,399 --> 00:27:28,399 for Halloween and so some of it is that 476 00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:32,159 just use general tax dollars for it but 477 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:36,320 to encourage people to support the 478 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480 public safety foundation and hopefully 479 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,799 through that manner build a broader 480 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,640 network uh where people are working 481 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,880 together and supporting again those 482 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,960 efforts in the public safety field I 483 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,600 understand that but that's not in play 484 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,600 shap so this is really kind basically 485 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,519 decimated that line without that in 486 00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:01,159 place the foundation is there so some of 487 00:28:01,159 --> 00:28:03,039 the challenges people go out and raise 488 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,240 money but yes so understand what you're 489 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,760 coming from the 490 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,519 council yeah that was one of my um 491 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,399 suggestion when we discussed the budget 492 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:16,000 um line by line was um to continue to 493 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,960 fund that but at the same time you know 494 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200 we have 25,000 under the fire and 5,000 495 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,960 here and the approach is to encourage uh 496 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,360 um membership to go to seek um funding 497 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,070 from other 498 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,039 sources how much did they spend on that 499 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,080 line this year to dat yeah well not year 500 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,519 to dat but previous year they are they 501 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:44,360 using that money 502 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,630 sorry 503 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,240 [Music] 504 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,000 use the both department will share the 505 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,320 expense in terms of the outre they do 506 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240 within the 507 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120 community G the number are you 508 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440 requesting that I try to find no I'm 509 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,679 kind of I don't know if this feasible 510 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:07,039 since we are you could give them 15,000 511 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,960 fire department 15,000 of the police 512 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,880 department that's what I was thinking 513 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,799 it's feasible to kind of like a good 253 514 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:16,480 splited 155 each and can I encourage um 515 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,399 to go to seek um funding from other 516 00:29:19,399 --> 00:29:20,880 sources to help 517 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,279 them I here to see this line I do not 518 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,120 want to see this line go away ID 519 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Department to fund them 520 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,159 what's the L number please it's um a 521 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:38,080 2120 402b go ahead please a312 page 522 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:44,039 20 so it's a3120 402a 402b I Know Chief 523 00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,360 um Marino stepped out one of the things 524 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,080 I appreciate that the fire department 525 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000 does is they intentionally invest in 526 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,360 like different organizations throughout 527 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,519 the years so even if they're not in 528 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:56,000 place I think their impact or their 529 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,880 support of certain organizations is felt 530 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,559 and and I imagine that in Chief Marino's 531 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,399 capacity they have programs or 532 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:04,360 organizations they annually fund with 533 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,279 this ex with their full um allotment for 534 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,200 this line in place so I don't know if uh 535 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,960 splitting that between this and fire may 536 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,960 put some of those programs um at at a 537 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,480 negative expense um I will say publicly 538 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,679 I I think it looked poorly optically for 539 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:27,640 that to be one of the lines that were 540 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200 adjust Ed for the police department um 541 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200 definitely with conversations 542 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,039 surrounding community and police 543 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,000 interactions I am proud to say I'm I'm 544 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,480 confident in the work that's been done 545 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,600 and is being done especially within our 546 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,679 school district as we've had recent 547 00:30:42,679 --> 00:30:45,480 events it's important to have a fully 548 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960 sta police force in place um but 549 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,720 continually investing in the community 550 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760 is something that needs to be ongoing at 551 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760 the full capacity so from my 552 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,799 understanding this is my third budget 553 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,039 cycle definitely have having um a lot of 554 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,519 conversations in one go is is pretty 555 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:05,120 tasking so from my perspective I was 556 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200 looking at identifying just where 557 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,120 people's um stances were with some lines 558 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,320 and then allowing uh the finance 559 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,240 department to either adjust or we can 560 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,519 have follow on discussions throughout 561 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:18,679 the remainder of the week of how do we 562 00:31:18,679 --> 00:31:20,960 identify Monies to support any of our 563 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120 positions but I think having that 564 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,039 complicated conversation Al together it 565 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:29,240 just it makes for a tasking evening 566 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,679 I shared the same concern from the 567 00:31:30,679 --> 00:31:34,279 beginning I identifi this reduction and 568 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,919 you it what is the actual to 569 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:46,990 date you able 570 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,080 to 571 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,000 yeah you're absolutely 572 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,960 correct we've seen the the creation into 573 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,039 the neighborhood and the support toal 574 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,639 organization 575 00:31:58,639 --> 00:32:00,360 to kind of bring awareness to what's 576 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,360 happening police departments on the fire 577 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,679 and you know it's something that we 578 00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:08,240 should support I mean if it's 15,000 579 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480 20,000 it will help 580 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,389 a31 581 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:20,170 2042 through end of September 582 00:32:20,170 --> 00:32:22,480 [Music] 583 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,200 $3,646 584 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,549 25 2 585 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,799 corre yeah I meant 25,000 oh 25,000 25 586 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:35,440 so do we know if there's anything out 587 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,000 there that like right now they're coming 588 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,360 up they're doing what do they call that 589 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,919 thing is coming up this week scity or 590 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:46,320 whatever scity will come up and they buy 591 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240 candy so dides that come out of this 592 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,000 budget line usually yes what what is the 593 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,840 actual for the police department that is 594 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,000 3ry 410 595 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,080 28 fire department sorry 3410 4028 596 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,559 [Music] 597 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:10,240 4028 it's on page 28 I believe that's 598 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,679 correct 599 00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:18,149 28 I find it on 600 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:24,350 this2 316 is 601 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,590 $2,556 oh 602 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,919 they are doing 603 00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:34,600 op so we and we we still have to see 604 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,600 what the cost is 605 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,919 for but as Mr William said apparently 606 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,200 they're also helping organizations when 607 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,240 they put things on and that's how 608 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,240 they're spending their money as 609 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,120 well and in addition the police 610 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,039 department I think they get things 611 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,519 donated to them that's not costing them 612 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,320 anything because they give away some 613 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,760 serious 614 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 stuff and I believe uh I was told I'm 615 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,360 not I was told that some of the stuff 616 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,720 that they get was 617 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480 donated that may be how they keep that 618 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480 line down pleas also have 619 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:15,109 83142 a Outreach and that year get 620 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:16,839 530 621 00:34:16,839 --> 00:34:19,000 two yeah they've been drawing on the 622 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,310 line just above 623 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,839 that is 624 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:29,240 2 a 625 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,440 Outreach the other one you said they 626 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,350 another line 402 402b and then 627 00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:42,430 [Music] 628 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,399 402 20123 their actual expenses 629 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:51,320 were U uh out of this budget of 6,000 630 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,240 they spent 1,000 and not 25,000 SP 6,000 631 00:34:55,240 --> 00:35:06,109 in 2023 632 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,839 that's probably where they that's why 633 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:09,599 they probably felt comfortable 634 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,119 cutting well these are both um these are 635 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,960 both from arund so no matter how we cut 636 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,599 the must they won't be there next year 637 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,880 to spend so um one year they did spend 638 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,240 more than the 5,000 so I I definitely 639 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:25,680 think we should increase it beyond the 640 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000 5,000 641 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,480 15,000 was mentioned and again we have 642 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,400 the um expense that we don't know what's 643 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,800 going to happen for this October thing 644 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,480 and I don't know if they do anything in 645 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,710 um for 646 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,760 Christmas it's conceivable that there's 647 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,960 going to be more money spend in what 648 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,040 we're seeing right now we did have one 649 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,280 donor this year $110,000 or 650 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,960 $5,000 for what that for Public Safety 651 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440 Foundation Public Safety Foundation 652 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,920 H I know there was something with the 653 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,880 school 654 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,280 district the foundation I believe with 655 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,200 the haircut this 656 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,000 was this was just an individual who made 657 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,880 a donation to the city for that specific 658 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,480 use so is that money coming in help in 659 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,920 that yeah that's so that's that could 660 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,030 be 661 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:31,599 10,000 can we increase that the F to that 662 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,319 whatever that amount is for 663 00:36:35,319 --> 00:36:39,119 now okay my question would so it's it's 664 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:40,640 a donor then the money is there it's not 665 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,160 even our it's an outside donor who 666 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,200 specifically wanted to donate to that so 667 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,560 it's not even our bit other 668 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,480 money and where would that show up in 669 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,800 revenue or do you show that probably 670 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,760 under 671 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,069 miscellaneous Like Only You 672 00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,480 I think one of the challenges um just in 673 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,000 conversations I've had are that again I 674 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160 mean running events for them to be 675 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,960 running events and using that that 676 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480 funding is can be challenging also 677 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,319 because you know they're doing police 678 00:37:13,319 --> 00:37:16,359 work so I mean part of you know it might 679 00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:18,280 be interesting to think about whether we 680 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,440 need somebody that we use some of the 681 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,000 money to pay someone um that would 682 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,359 actually be working with either with 683 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:26,960 both either or both of the Departments 684 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,079 to actually put on some of these things 685 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,960 um just as just as a suggestion so I 686 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,560 think that's what they pay they pay a 687 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680 vendor to for supplies and things like 688 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560 that so they manage program or they just 689 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,680 pay for the supplies and and items or 690 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,839 you know Supply food water whatever to 691 00:37:44,839 --> 00:37:46,839 carry out that event I just mean 692 00:37:46,839 --> 00:37:48,720 coordinating the events you know you 693 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,119 know what I mean as opposed to the 694 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,200 supplies for generally they attend 695 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,359 events that other people have already 696 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:57,800 coordinated like the 518 like the 697 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,599 basketball thing that they were doing so 698 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,119 it's someone other group that 699 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,680 coordinates and then they invite them to 700 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880 come and bring all the goodies so I 701 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,240 don't know that we necessarily need a 702 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,640 separate coordinator because the events 703 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,599 happen and then the police show up um to 704 00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:14,119 support it and bring all the giveaways 705 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,400 like like part well National 9 was part 706 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,640 of 518 so you so I I don't I don't know 707 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040 that we could afford the expense of 708 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,920 someone because it's not like even a 709 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,760 full-time job no no it's not a full-time 710 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,960 job 711 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,119 just a suggestion and then also I think 712 00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:31,960 an important component is with these 713 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,760 community outreach lines in my 714 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,440 perspective it's how do we prevent fires 715 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,160 how do we prevent crimes and I think by 716 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,560 embracing and engaging the community 717 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,800 proactively where we address or provide 718 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560 some context to what they do or what 719 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520 policing involves or entails in in the 720 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,079 city of concy I think it reassures 721 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:52,880 people that the Poli are present and it 722 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,280 also provides a friendly face to if you 723 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,119 have any questions or if there are any 724 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,200 Miss interpretations but I think for the 725 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,079 benefit of this line it it helps to 726 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,319 present and address issues before they 727 00:39:06,319 --> 00:39:08,520 happen into Chief Marino's comment he 728 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,119 made earlier we can't quantify fires 729 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,720 that didn't happen we can't quantify 730 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,040 crimes that didn't happen but for this 731 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,079 budget I think it truly it pays for 732 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,480 itself and that's why I think having 733 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,920 this being ongoing permanent line in the 734 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,119 budget uh just ensures that generation 735 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,520 after generation they understand the 736 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,319 importance of the police their community 737 00:39:28,319 --> 00:39:30,160 and also it presents how the police 738 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,400 should interact with their 739 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,400 Community I think it's just really first 740 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,200 time you engage a police officer you 741 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,400 don't want it to be in the midst of a 742 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,760 crisis right and I think that's kind of 743 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,079 the same thing for our fire department 744 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,920 so that's pretty clear um value there 745 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,720 and I do think that them leveraging some of the uh Community uh things that 746 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,599 are already existing to kind of 747 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,040 contribute to it that again that just 748 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,760 reinforces you know partnership and in a 749 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,920 really meaningful way so it doesn't look 750 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,640 like um you know as you know a 751 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,240 performative thing just showing up it's 752 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,560 like showing up and contributing you 753 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,040 know uh to the cause is I think 754 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,680 important for that so I think we're on 755 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,880 the same 756 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,920 pact I I do want to clarify that I don't 757 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200 want to take money away from them um and 758 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,280 I absolutely value the them being 759 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,720 involved in all these 760 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,520 events I se a conversation here and I 761 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,480 think for many of us and I can speak for 762 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,119 myself is that we're looking to going 763 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,119 forward into next year to meet this line 764 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,800 permanent I don't think there's 765 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,560 absolutely no push back on that is to 766 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,960 make this line permanent so yes it's in 767 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,760 low this year but these lines will 768 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,359 eventually the next budget be permanent 769 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:50,720 in our budget and funded from General 770 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,680 Reserve I mean look at it it's to bring 771 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,079 it up to 25,000 is 20,000 772 00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:00,230 M um 773 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,079 if we have I don't know what the amount 774 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,520 is is 10,000 or $5,000 was donated can 775 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,480 we can we kind of subsidize that 776 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,400 whatever that amount is and put the the 777 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,839 balance and bring it back some of that 778 00:41:12,839 --> 00:41:14,640 in fact they may you s that money for 779 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,079 like buying some of the candy 780 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,920 for scare 781 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560 activity cheack that information down 782 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,680 tomorrow yeah whatever the difference is 783 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040 I don't have an objection I from the 784 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,440 beginning I said we need to bring this 785 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,560 line back to 25 to match the the fire 786 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,079 department and to keep it at $50,000 so 787 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,119 they have that money available to them 788 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,640 continue the Outreach continue the good 789 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,599 work they're doing uh in our 790 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:42,520 neighborhood to can of 791 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,440 subsidize these uh events from the local 792 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,720 organization and both department has 793 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:54,230 been doing a fantastic job sing 794 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,240 that so we wait we can put that as as an 795 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,400 item to revisit and we're just steering 796 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,480 down $20,000 which is not for 20,000 797 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:12,270 more right yes I look for it 798 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,000 tomorrow you got 6 got 60 already for 799 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,760 yeah I like that all right 20 800 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,240 tomorrow that's no I think all of us are very supportive of that yeah the 801 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,640 next one we'll talk about 802 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,760 the arle we should have this report here 803 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,000 let's go through this m I think there 804 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,380 are some some questions on 805 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:54,270 [Music] 806 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,599 this all right we need to make copies 807 00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:57,960 anybody 808 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,040 anybody's missing you get copy yes sir 809 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,640 all right 810 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:11,500 [Music] 811 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:12,990 [Applause] 812 00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:27,910 [Music] 813 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:35,349 all right this was a thank you all 814 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:38,160 right really fast before we move into 815 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,119 this discussion I just so um the 816 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,720 anti-racism training that's funded from 817 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,280 a different line for the police or that 818 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,200 call can you call the page oh oh sorry 819 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,520 page um 20 Page 20 up so uh 820 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520 402c 8120 402 the question was asked 821 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,839 when I fin were like um what was that 822 00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:02,960 question they um they last year or this 823 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,119 year I should say they had the anti- 824 00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:06,599 racism training that was done by the 825 00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,839 Underground Railroad and they don't it's 826 00:44:08,839 --> 00:44:10,440 not something that they do every year so 827 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,160 there that's that's not seeing any 828 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,280 funding so I'm not sure how it was paid 829 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,760 for this year but I know that it was 830 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,520 done this year through the Underground 831 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160 Railroad I'm not sure going forward if 832 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,079 there's if they just donated their time 833 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:23,640 and effort I'm not sure how they came 834 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,520 about that so I did raise that question 835 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,000 as well as as you can see as f for quite 836 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,280 some time right I saw and I I I was 837 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,000 looking I remember they're saying I 838 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,640 wasn't I was looking for some clarity on 839 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,119 I wasn't sure where that where it stand 840 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,839 because right now I think well that's that's a question that we could 841 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:41,520 kind of get from the chief like what the 842 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,000 plans are for that CU I think that's 843 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,680 really they had it done this year 844 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640 absolutely did but um it doesn't show 845 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,200 anywhere in the budget so I know that 846 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,400 they paid for it 847 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,200 underr it looks like it's 100% it 848 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,400 I thought that was taken out of a 849 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,520 training line yeah it's not here that's 850 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,960 what I 851 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,839 thought if you don't mind we can ask the 852 00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:11,630 chief have 853 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,640 something would you like yes 854 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,440 please the 855 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,839 chief ask the chief for a clarification 856 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:24,990 as to why the this line Z 857 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,520 out I know they the train 858 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,160 yes yes and where where the money uh 859 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,079 came from the pay for the 860 00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:38,069 training and when is it when is it next 861 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,760 training I know those are one of those 862 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,040 trainings that you like to see down 863 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,160 annually as but I'm sure that they're 864 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,440 good at finding like other resources and 865 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,760 if they're finding other sustainable 866 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,760 resources God bless them you know but if 867 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,200 not something we should and that's why 868 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,760 ask ask when the next TR the next is 869 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,480 next here then we need to know where we 870 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:01,990 can get to that 871 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:08,829 training all right let's go through 872 00:46:08,839 --> 00:46:17,400 thiso any question you have please 873 00:46:17,410 --> 00:46:52,990 [Music] 874 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,079 go ahead Mr Mr you gave report from the 875 00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:00,200 beginning there was a couple of um ones 876 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,400 that you said we were recouping and 877 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,030 bringing back to the general 878 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,520 fund oh for 2025 yes yes we got that 879 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,680 list right 880 00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:20,990 [Music] 881 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,000 there okay we're looking to take uh 882 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,240 1 1,2 50,000 from the Carver Community 883 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,440 rehab um 884 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,040 94,6 to from the sidewalk 885 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,520 program 886 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,079 65486 from the empart center repad and 887 00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,920 237,000 from Riverside Park 888 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,910 [Music] 889 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,000 for so they had 250 so they spent little 890 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,020 bit what's left correct 891 00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:00,880 [Music] 892 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,190 I believe that was 893 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,240 Riverside I believe it was for the 894 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,040 stting board I don't know I don't know 895 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,920 what are they I I I think they hadn't 896 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,800 made a decision I think they've gone 897 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,359 back and forth um about basketball 898 00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,119 versus other things so and I and I'm 899 00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,160 speaking to the engineer that says 900 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,760 there's no time he has no time available 901 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,839 to do that he's the one who suggested 902 00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:28,160 that we take that 903 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,559 Mr chairman go ahead please just s a 904 00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,400 message to Chief Whipple for the 905 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,079 anti-racism 906 00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:38,119 training that was paid for out of the 23 907 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,520 budget the number was in the amount was 908 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,920 in in December of 23 but the training 909 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,319 wasn't actually done until 910 00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:52,400 24 so again it's been done this year and 911 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,040 I think again they're looking to do it 912 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,440 like every other year okay as part of 913 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,119 the World 914 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:02,319 TR that's what he said the other night 915 00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:03,880 that's what I think he said when we when 916 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,630 we asked them the other 917 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,480 night so gu if I can speak to them the 918 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,040 last thing we highlighted was the 919 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,160 Riverside Park courts I would hope that 920 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,720 it was in response to that considered 921 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,760 skateboard effort um I know even 922 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,200 mentioned that out loud definitely 923 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,799 there's a lot of red flags with 924 00:49:23,799 --> 00:49:26,040 liability uh I would say I don't believe 925 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,960 in coincidence but I happen to run into 926 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,760 an individual that's a really prominent 927 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,200 figure in that area and he's like his 928 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,440 comment um paraphrasing was we're not 929 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,839 even asking for funding we just want to 930 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:40,880 it to be approved um I know the research 931 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,760 that I've done and I defin from the to 932 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,319 Corporation Council and it's the mayor's 933 00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:46,480 prerogative it kind of spoke along the 934 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,880 lines of as long as there's sound 935 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,200 infrastructure those uh understandings 936 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,040 kind of prevent us from any liability 937 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,160 and I don't know where the rest of the 938 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,920 council stands but I think if we going 939 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,400 to be removing quarter of million 940 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,720 dollars from that fund that could 941 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,640 potentially revamp that area for this 942 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,040 recreational activity I think in Li of 943 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,040 that there should be a considered effort 944 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,240 to identify how the city can make this a 945 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,720 legal activity within the community um 946 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,000 or we need to start enforcing the policy 947 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,559 that's currently in 948 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,160 place I just want to mention once again 949 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,760 speak nor engineer who said 950 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,200 with all the projects He has in place we 951 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,589 not be able to get for that 952 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,880 2026 that's why and that's not what I'm 953 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,559 advocating for so I apologize if that 954 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,000 was misconstrued I'm saying if we're 955 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,480 taking the money back I understand that 956 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960 we are in a financial position in the 957 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,920 city where we have to identify potential 958 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,920 fee increases and fine increases and 959 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,280 what not applying this that that means 960 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,799 to our tax tax base so I get that I'm 961 00:50:55,799 --> 00:50:57,440 saying if we're going proceed with not 962 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,079 pointing this line we should look at how 963 00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,520 do we identify a pathway for the city to 964 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,040 embrace this recreational activity as 965 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,200 opposed to turning a blind eye and not 966 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,559 supporting 967 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:14,200 it Mr L so we have had meetings with the 968 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,000 group um about the skateboard park and I 969 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,920 think that we had alternative you know 970 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,960 we had some suggestions um so we can you 971 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,880 know bring that back to the table and talk to them again um but and the 972 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,680 residents of The Stockade are also 973 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,920 there's there's some of those residents 974 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,319 that would be okay with a skateboard 975 00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:35,880 park and there's other residents that 976 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,119 say well maybe it should be a basketball 977 00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,599 court um and still others that have even 978 00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:42,799 tossed around you know tennis or or pick 979 00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:45,200 a ball so I think it's a good a good 980 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,680 idea to bring it back and it's something 981 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,200 that the health and Recreation committee 982 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,480 can put back onto an agenda as well but 983 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,520 there I mean I don't know if you've had 984 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,559 additional meetings um since the last 985 00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:57,720 one I attended but there definitely were 986 00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:59,640 you know some issues around liability 987 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,599 and that kind of thing with the 988 00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:03,520 skateboard but um it's clearly a 989 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,480 recreational activity so we should be 990 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,079 thinking about 991 00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,839 it so but if there's no money then we 992 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:11,480 can't we can't do basket we can't make a 993 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,880 basketball in 2025 yeah or a pick aable 994 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,880 court or anything there's no funding to 995 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:22,109 support 996 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,680 it I mean it's it's a city park so we 997 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,640 can fund it at any given time true 998 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,079 Capital it doesn't have to come from 999 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,040 oura you can come from any Capital 1000 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,480 project or special allocation into the 1001 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,920 budget it's City facility so regardless 1002 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,160 of our or general fund if we decide to 1003 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,760 move forward and we may and the 1004 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,960 administration decide to move forward it 1005 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,680 can be funded either 1006 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,359 way but then we have to look at the same 1007 00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,240 mean the morning topic 1008 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,799 liability so can not have people just go 1009 00:52:54,799 --> 00:52:58,240 into a public park and start to do 1010 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,160 construction 1011 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,799 without getting a building permit any 1012 00:53:02,799 --> 00:53:05,829 design 1013 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,640 standards there's just no good scenario 1014 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,119 yeah that's what I saying the warning 1015 00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:12,760 point is liability of these things I'm 1016 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,839 in there and and what the design layout 1017 00:53:14,839 --> 00:53:16,400 and all to make sure it's a safe 1018 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200 environment for everyone to to 1019 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,400 use me again I think also it has to fit 1020 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,079 into the I mean the city engineer does 1021 00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:27,000 have a lot of parks projects on his 1022 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,319 plate um as you can see from the from 1023 00:53:29,319 --> 00:53:31,520 the grid and then you know he's working 1024 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,720 away on those things so you know sounds 1025 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,280 like it's not going to happen in 1026 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,440 2025 right Mr Ferrari that's what he was 1027 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,960 that's what he told 1028 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,200 us I'm was saying I we have this Parts 1029 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,400 director position that is now occupied 1030 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,880 correct I think this would be a 1031 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,319 impactful uh topic for him start 1032 00:53:55,319 --> 00:54:00,319 reviewing um I can hear all sides but in 1033 00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:04,200 that there's no pathway of action so 1034 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,359 there is the 1035 00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:07,839 potential uh amount of money that would 1036 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:10,599 have impacted any one of those issues 1037 00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:13,400 that is now being removed and in replace 1038 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,880 of that we are putting W so I think 1039 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,200 there's already um items and Equipment 1040 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,920 there I understand 1041 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,720 1,00% that the city cannot allow a group 1042 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,760 of individuals to just make a makeshift 1043 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,760 skate park I get that however we need to 1044 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,640 totly address that that is there and 1045 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,880 they are using that so unless we're 1046 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,240 going to really work collaboratively to 1047 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,599 right side that issue we have to tear it 1048 00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:45,799 down and put up fences because I think 1049 00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:48,760 it sends a Mis message to say you can't 1050 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,599 use this park but we're going to nor 1051 00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:57,470 only allow people to use the par 1052 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680 and miss miss um could you stop I mean I 1053 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,599 didn't know about that there were 1054 00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:02,440 meetings that were taking place so 1055 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,799 you've been meeting with the a long time 1056 00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:06,520 ago the skateboard won it wasn't even 1057 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,839 this year oh okay yeah all right I 1058 00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:10,440 thought that was the last time that they 1059 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,720 oh it's been a while yeah oh okay thank 1060 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,319 you go ahead please I I do know that we 1061 00:55:15,319 --> 00:55:18,880 did suggest under the ramp down by 1062 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,920 predel that was a good suggestion to the 1063 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,119 uh State boarders um and they they at 1064 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,359 that point w in agree to get money part 1065 00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:30,920 of it for us to move them down there so 1066 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,319 again talks were were being held and 1067 00:55:33,319 --> 00:55:35,920 taking place so and as Miss Patrick just 1068 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,880 said bring it back to the table at some 1069 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,750 point 1070 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,520 so well and as Mr William said they're 1071 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,720 still skating down there that's not even 1072 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,440 you know I've not been there in a while 1073 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,000 but the last time I was there during the 1074 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,520 summer they still were and actually 1075 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,799 there was an an email where they thought 1076 00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:01,280 the council had just flashed their um 1077 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,079 idea and it didn't so let's say the 1078 00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:05,599 record that that did not 1079 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,640 happen or have that discussion I Reed 1080 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,450 email that they 1081 00:56:10,450 --> 00:56:13,750 [Music] 1082 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,710 believe just for clarity the 1083 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,440 question so yes so so just for clarity 1084 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,640 we're talking about a couple different 1085 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,480 things so the issue as it as we know as 1086 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,640 stands right now is liability clearly um 1087 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,440 but there's a way if this was to turn 1088 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,480 into a manifest into uh a skate park 1089 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,520 whether it's there or under uh the 1090 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,480 bridge I know uh I remember the man 1091 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,880 suggesting uh last year that the 1092 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,160 liability issue 1093 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,039 um will be mitigated if it is a skate 1094 00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:53,000 park and it you know it's not obviously 1095 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,160 a makeshift thing right so so we're 1096 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,960 saying that're so that's my for clarity 1097 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,119 we're not saying that we can't do a 1098 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:03,839 skate park at some point due to liary 1099 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:08,910 right we're not saying 1100 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,760 that correct okay something designed to 1101 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,079 acceptable standards criteria for skate 1102 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,240 parks 1103 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,920 sure I think to bring them back to the 1104 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,160 table let's have a continued discussion 1105 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,240 and to come up with a a design that 1106 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,039 that's you know that is acceptable to 1107 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,839 city and then you know potential of 1108 00:57:32,839 --> 00:57:34,799 moving 1109 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,799 forward can't be 1110 00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:39,680 high what do we do with that old pool 1111 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,359 has ni the right curve that's I actually 1112 00:57:42,359 --> 00:57:44,640 did suggest that I actually thought that 1113 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,079 would be a great 1114 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:50,280 idea Green Space or that's a possibility 1115 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,640 even though to say that that is 1116 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,240 M they do like a conr surface which is 1117 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,770 harder and 1118 00:57:58,770 --> 00:58:03,870 [Music] 1119 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,000 smoother go ahead please um follow if we 1120 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,599 could just go back for a second I missed 1121 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,720 um in term when Mr Ferrari was talking 1122 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,280 about the projects that we were 1123 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,480 considering eliminating the funding for 1124 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,319 I got Carver Riverside sidewalk but I 1125 00:58:19,319 --> 00:58:20,559 think there were some others the 1126 00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:22,760 Empowerment Center oh that's right we 1127 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,960 had those was it's on this page we 1128 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,079 should have a report I guess 1129 00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:30,109 oh 1130 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:34,520 I the summary should be the summary 1131 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,710 here thank 1132 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,440 you so right in the middle of it Capt 1133 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,119 the the breakdown gotcha of the um four 1134 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,150 um Pockets or the money is coming from 1135 00:58:51,150 --> 00:59:08,150 [Applause] 1136 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,480 let's continue I mean we can just go 1137 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,920 side by side because this one capture 1138 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,760 something let's continue with this um 1139 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,000 ARA report and then we'll move on to 1140 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200 anyone else in terms of any question 1141 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:27,390 that you may have 1142 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,520 so just just so we're just comfortable 1143 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,880 that I know that some people have well 1144 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,520 at least one or two but I can see 1145 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,559 already spent down and the rest we're 1146 00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:36,960 just comfortable every all the projects 1147 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,200 will be done by 1148 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,440 2026 because once we once we' allocated 1149 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,400 money by the end of this year we don't 1150 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,359 end there's no opportunity to recoup 1151 00:59:48,359 --> 00:59:52,280 from if they don't spend it it's just 1152 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,359 have to send it back to the give it back 1153 00:59:54,359 --> 00:59:56,520 we don't want that 1154 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,960 is that is that is that a true statement 1155 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,839 if they were to I mean I just want to 1156 01:00:00,839 --> 01:00:02,799 put that out is that a true statement 1157 01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:06,920 I'm continue um if we were to allocate x 1158 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,599 amount of money and they are not coming 1159 01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:10,720 up to par in trying to complete progr 1160 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,359 can we resend that excuse me can we 1161 01:00:14,359 --> 01:00:17,720 resend the contract yes and recruit the 1162 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,319 money back and bring it back in house 1163 01:00:19,319 --> 01:00:24,039 before 2025 yes it would have to happen 1164 01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:27,960 before 204 December 31st 2024 so that is 1165 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,000 something that we have to look at I will 1166 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,200 encourage them to you know all of us may 1167 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,599 administration department of development 1168 01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:37,039 it's so kind we have to be on top of 1169 01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:40,480 this project to see how they are faing 1170 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,440 out there and if they can come up to far 1171 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,480 we're going to have to we're going to 1172 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,799 have to amend um the resolution and to 1173 01:00:49,799 --> 01:00:51,880 take this money back 1174 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,520 unfortunately that is my personal 1175 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,039 opinion right now this point time 1176 01:00:56,039 --> 01:00:58,200 because it will hurt us more to see that 1177 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,200 we try to work with them all the way to 1178 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,160 the 21st of December and they can carry 1179 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,799 their weight they can add bring in 1180 01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:07,359 additional funding from other source and 1181 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:10,200 lose millions of dollars so I think this 1182 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,280 Council has an obligation to to look at 1183 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,640 this with the mayor and the department 1184 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,000 of development and we work side by side 1185 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,280 to make sure that we bring back these 1186 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,240 funds in 1187 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,599 house well um go ahead please think that 1188 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,200 we some of these funds some of these 1189 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,839 projects did not need matching funds so 1190 01:01:30,839 --> 01:01:32,839 we should like look at what didn't need 1191 01:01:32,839 --> 01:01:34,960 matching funds I mean this there's one 1192 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,480 for $50,000 and then so in the next 1193 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,440 couple years will they be able to spend 1194 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,640 40,000 on food or and I don't even know 1195 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,480 the date of thisy there's no date on it 1196 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:51,839 one was as I believe 924 924 so um I'm 1197 01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:53,000 guessing that there's still more money 1198 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,559 that they spent or will have spent by 1199 01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,400 the end of December 1200 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,599 so I if if we're even considering that I 1201 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:01,319 think we should 1202 01:02:01,319 --> 01:02:03,720 um that was the food deliver that was 1203 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,240 just one I chose but even if we 1204 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,520 like look at some of the others that are 1205 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,400 under contract and part of it is 1206 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,920 because they have to get their 1207 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,400 contractors going I'm not sure so I 1208 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,880 think before we decide that we have to 1209 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,720 see where they are with the 1210 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,410 projects can you ask U this car 1211 01:02:25,410 --> 01:02:28,400 [Music] 1212 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,680 you ask that was asked that and she said 1213 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,359 that she would do that like like for 1214 01:02:32,359 --> 01:02:34,760 instance right the Harbor House right 1215 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,799 now still has 1216 01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:40,160 $750,000 in there that still there's 1217 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,680 still a balance but do we really want to 1218 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,390 say we want to take that 1219 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,760 back um go ahead please yeah I mean 1220 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,079 again I think in that I mean I'm just 1221 01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:52,760 responding to that particular project 1222 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,880 but um we had um a comprehensive 1223 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,279 presentation by them and they outlined 1224 01:02:58,279 --> 01:02:59,480 how they were spending the money and 1225 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,000 what the timeline was that wasn't I 1226 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,359 wasn't asking I'll be taking their money 1227 01:03:02,359 --> 01:03:05,160 back I'm I'm to Mr mood Mar's point we 1228 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,520 have to we should do this line by line 1229 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,680 and see where everyone is as opposed to 1230 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,000 just saying well they haven't spent it 1231 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,240 it's almost the end of the year let's 1232 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,319 take it back I'm not I'm not choosing 1233 01:03:13,319 --> 01:03:14,880 them to take them back that's not what 1234 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,960 I'm saying okay it's a general statement 1235 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,760 making to safeguard us and to bring back 1236 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,559 some money rather than we lose it we 1237 01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:23,720 bring it back and keep it in the house 1238 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,200 so we can use it next year 1239 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,400 go ahead please to direct 1240 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,160 Anthony in these 1241 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,319 contracts project moves ah had I used 1242 01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:39,200 Harbor House as an example it's on 1243 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,440 Washington Avenue good project we all 1244 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,400 support it if they didn't use all that 1245 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,599 money to get to the end and there's some 1246 01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:51,000 residual that is out there can't 1247 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,720 complete it could we word the contract 1248 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,880 more generically 1249 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,839 says that we'll use it 1250 01:03:58,839 --> 01:04:01,359 for Harbor House 1251 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:05,480 or adjacent Street and sidew work so 1252 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,760 that we would put it back into the 1253 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,400 street 1254 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,480 uh somewhere on Union Street Washington 1255 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,920 avenet and that way at the end of these 1256 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,839 you know these big 1257 01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:22,079 projects the likelihood of everything 1258 01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:28,150 balancing out to zero is uh 1259 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,559 a little bit of a challenge but if we 1260 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:33,279 put some contingency there where there's 1261 01:04:33,279 --> 01:04:36,559 always Paving to be done there's always 1262 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:41,359 uh something that uh you know there a 1263 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:42,760 lot of these it's not going to be huge 1264 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,119 amounts of money it might be a little 1265 01:04:44,119 --> 01:04:46,599 bit the other hand maybe something does 1266 01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,920 shift and you end up with $100,000 you 1267 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,079 don't want to lose that but so I don't 1268 01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:54,119 know if 1269 01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:57,319 that if we could do generic wording like 1270 01:04:57,319 --> 01:04:59,079 that so 1271 01:04:59,079 --> 01:05:01,400 it's yeah it's not I don't believe 1272 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,599 that's a problem at all with any of 1273 01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:04,480 these we can do that I think what we 1274 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,720 have to look at what is the plan have 1275 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,319 they U have they got a contractor going 1276 01:05:11,319 --> 01:05:13,319 forward are they looking to start the 1277 01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:15,079 project that when are they looking to 1278 01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:17,400 start the project and again if they have 1279 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,960 enough money because usually with the 1280 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,720 cases with any of these uh fundings in 1281 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,720 my experience is we they always use the 1282 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,119 grant money first so before the end of 1283 01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:27,599 the project you know that they they'll 1284 01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:29,680 use it for the excavation for the 1285 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,079 foundation and you know it's always done 1286 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:34,480 before they even start you know really 1287 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960 believe it or not 750,000 or even 1288 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,720 500,000 doesn't go as far as they used 1289 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,079 to you 1290 01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:43,720 know and that's what I'm trying we need 1291 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,640 to know where they are and that's what 1292 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,400 I'm trying to like direct you know to be 1293 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,480 um more direct in terms of where we yes 1294 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,279 go to everyone and ask them where are 1295 01:05:53,279 --> 01:05:56,119 you in in your project do you have 1296 01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,480 matching funds where are you in terms of 1297 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,160 matching funds and if you're not there 1298 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,200 time is 1299 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,520 not in front of us we are we have to get 1300 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240 this done in about I would say push it 1301 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,119 in two cycles we have to be aggressive 1302 01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:12,680 because we need to bring it back in 1303 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,279 house make amendments and then 1304 01:06:14,279 --> 01:06:17,400 reallocate it to City projects that will 1305 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,640 take a month at least so we have to make 1306 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,160 sure that we don't wait until the end of 1307 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,000 December to come back start so I think 1308 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,079 this this work all of us need to get on 1309 01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:30,400 board to help make this happen it's 1310 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,400 unfortunate that we have to do this but 1311 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,200 we allocated you are unable to come up 1312 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,559 with your um expectation and we're not 1313 01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:41,480 going to lose the 1314 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,720 money I I think that Miss Carver has 1315 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,799 that kind of information because she has 1316 01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:49,839 come and made those she I think she 1317 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,000 probably knows exactly where each of 1318 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,200 these projects so I don't I I think 1319 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,079 maybe we could ask her to come 1320 01:06:57,079 --> 01:06:58,480 on the 1321 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,319 agenda next committee meeting kind of 1322 01:07:01,319 --> 01:07:03,880 give us update where we are and identify 1323 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,240 anyone 1324 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,710 that we need to 1325 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,559 Reco yeah definitely I mean there's a 1326 01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:13,000 number of them that have if you look 1327 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,279 down here on the balance side there's a 1328 01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:16,480 number of them have high balances as of 1329 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,880 September 24th that they're unextended 1330 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,359 there's a number I can I only see a 1331 01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,480 couple like I can count I can count the 1332 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,359 zeros that have no balance let me say 1333 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:26,279 that 1334 01:07:26,279 --> 01:07:29,440 so most of them have 1335 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,240 bance yes I have read the ones that have 1336 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,960 high dollar value we have to go after we 1337 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,599 have to address those course and then 1338 01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:40,870 look at the the 1339 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,549 smaller 1340 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:49,799 tomorrow already well you can always 1341 01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:52,119 ask yeah we can we don't need to wait 1342 01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:54,039 until that's right we can ask it because 1343 01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:56,079 it's a budget it's a budget item yeah I 1344 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:58,480 mean she's updated at us our council at 1345 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,720 our Council meetings our Council be 1346 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,000 prepared to talk in detail about the 1347 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,559 actual status would be something 1348 01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:07,880 different yeah I don't know if she can 1349 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,599 get I think that might be too premature 1350 01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:12,200 in terms of like asking or she might 1351 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,000 that able to I think we need to wait 1352 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,520 let's wait uh 1353 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,839 Monday next Monday to get that 1354 01:08:20,839 --> 01:08:26,390 update because this doesn't affect the 1355 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,960 trying to bring back 1356 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,149 in City projects 1357 01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:37,239 yeah the other thing I mean um I want to 1358 01:08:37,239 --> 01:08:40,600 talk about in terms of the the C outome 1359 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:45,829 program we are dropping off 940,000 1360 01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:48,799 it's something that is dear to all of us 1361 01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:51,239 I program we have received our fair 1362 01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:53,440 share of complaint from the mayor to 1363 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:56,239 every one of us none of us uh are are 1364 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:59,440 spared of that so when we are doing this 1365 01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,279 reallocation back I would like to 1366 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,480 recommend that we consider reallocate 1367 01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:06,080 some money to the sidewalk program 1368 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,120 because currently the Central Parkway 1369 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,600 sidewalk program slated for next year 1370 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,520 April 4S we also have melen Street EMT 1371 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,359 Street and Raymond Street 1372 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,839 petition that we need to consider and 1373 01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:23,600 I'm going to actually add it on the 1374 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:29,000 agenda for Monday that we discuss um mum 1375 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,279 event and uh Raven Street the petition 1376 01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:34,000 and how do we move forward in addressing 1377 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,960 those petition and have them line up for 1378 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,799 the next phase of sidewalk program in 1379 01:09:39,799 --> 01:09:41,839 2025 yes of 1380 01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:45,159 course and and Rond 1381 01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:47,799 yes and I would like to see that we 1382 01:09:47,799 --> 01:09:51,960 reconsider someone to our program so we 1383 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,880 going to leave it as is but try to 1384 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,080 figure out where find yes yeah I am okay 1385 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,760 with yes with the reallocation at this 1386 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,960 point in time to help us with u the 1387 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:02,520 budget deficit but um that's a 1388 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,320 consideration I am putting on to the 1389 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,719 table as we make final adjustments 1390 01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:08,840 towards the end of the 1391 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:21,790 year 1392 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:27,080 ex okay so go ahead sorry no I just want to point out that I don't have any 1393 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,000 friends on here just just last night 1394 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,719 just going to be clear so people can 1395 01:10:31,719 --> 01:10:33,330 have it and for those who agre 1396 01:10:33,330 --> 01:10:37,550 [Music] 1397 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,760 the be a lot more popular w't 1398 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,920 you I would have said yeah all of these 1399 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,360 people are my friends 1400 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,199 oh I just take some 1401 01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:52,520 more yeah any other question on this I 1402 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,320 think this is straight forward we'll ask 1403 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,920 um Miss car 1404 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,280 sorry please I would say sincerely if 1405 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,920 we're doing our last three attacks I 1406 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,719 definitely it was not missed how 1407 01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,360 passionate I was to see the pro 1408 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,480 Community project continue um I 1409 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:09,239 appreciate the work that was done to get 1410 01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,600 to this point I know the transition and 1411 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,800 Leadership was agrup to say the least um 1412 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,239 but I thought it was a concern enough 1413 01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:19,719 effort 1414 01:11:19,719 --> 01:11:22,760 um in my perspective my wife's a social 1415 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,719 worker so she's really big on using eye 1416 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:25,920 statements 1417 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,000 I thought the stance from the city was 1418 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,840 disingenuous I thought the manner in 1419 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,040 which the project was presented and the 1420 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,880 comments that were had around the table 1421 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,080 gave the impression that we were working 1422 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,480 with them and with the lack of followup 1423 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:44,400 and communication when the project was 1424 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,840 pulled I can yield to the fact that 1425 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,199 there are better lines or better suited 1426 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:51,760 um project managers I.E well I won't 1427 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,719 even speak because we haven't had 1428 01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,360 anything formally reled to us I 1429 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,000 appreciate the comments that were given 1430 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,840 last night in response to the 1431 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,639 individuals that came to speak um but 1432 01:12:00,639 --> 01:12:02,880 that is why I'm so passionately 1433 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,320 responding to making sure our community 1434 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,120 outreach lines are funded that we are 1435 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,840 funding other recreational activities 1436 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,360 throughout the city because in absence 1437 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,000 of providing this resource to youth in 1438 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000 the community we need to make sure we're 1439 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,880 actually putting some actionable items 1440 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,440 uh in front of them because I there's a 1441 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:29,440 lot of idle time and we hear of these 1442 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,800 um I want to be careful on how we 1443 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,920 capture recent events but it is 1444 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,520 unfortunate that our youth have been 1445 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,719 plagued with incident after incident and I think it is 1446 01:12:41,719 --> 01:12:44,120 important to make sure we put actual 1447 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,159 funding behind um the comments I hear on 1448 01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,639 the table and it is not easy um being a 1449 01:12:52,639 --> 01:12:55,480 member of the city council there is wish 1450 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,320 thinking and then there's how do we make 1451 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,719 it end up and how do we balance the 1452 01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:01,600 budget at the end of the year um but I 1453 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,360 would have been remissed if I didn't say 1454 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,360 anything regarding this I hope to see 1455 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,120 the the project to fruition and whoever 1456 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,280 this ultimately lands um but definitely 1457 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,040 this will be a loss for that community 1458 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,000 and we need to make sure we're 1459 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,560 intentional and other measures 1460 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,360 of of the city so that this isn't again 1461 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,390 this isn't lost 1462 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,719 just so just to kind add to that 1463 01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:30,639 um my 1464 01:13:30,639 --> 01:13:34,320 information I have this project cost 1465 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,400 about $3.7 million as of last year 1466 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,440 that's a number I'm sure that is way 1467 01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:43,440 above that I would say closer to $4 1468 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:46,400 million we our allocation is $1.2 1469 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,360 million at this point in time so they 1470 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,159 are way behind at this point in time in 1471 01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:53,000 terms of um the adequate funding for 1472 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,040 this project is yes fortunate to see it 1473 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,520 though but our $1.2 million is nothing 1474 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,400 towards this project it's a fraction and 1475 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,920 you know the other source of income 1476 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,360 funding um I don't know if was I for me 1477 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,840 it wasn't brought to this table and I 1478 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,239 don't know where it is at this point in 1479 01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:15,960 time I asked that question many times as 1480 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,800 to where where the other source of fund 1481 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,760 coming we heard about the names without 1482 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,960 not getting any concrete you know 1483 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,320 something of confirmation ideas I'm 1484 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,880 going to fund xyc but then on the other 1485 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,960 hand I'm hearing that the school is 1486 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,960 going to be funding this entire project 1487 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,040 so I don't think any we're not losing in 1488 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,400 the sense of school is going to be 1489 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,040 funding this entire project and work 1490 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:43,199 with this group this 10 group so yes we 1491 01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,639 we're taking back this funding of 1.2 1492 01:14:45,639 --> 01:14:48,360 million but at the same time information 1493 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,639 I am receiving the school is stepping in 1494 01:14:51,639 --> 01:14:53,280 so they are going to be place that they 1495 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,159 are going to be used and the facilities 1496 01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:57,480 going be there and the school is partner 1497 01:14:57,480 --> 01:15:00,560 with these agency to provide the service 1498 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,520 needed there I don't know if I'm getting 1499 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,199 that Rong I correct me please I don't 1500 01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:08,320 know you get ask more about that um 1501 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,639 you're saying that the school is going 1502 01:15:09,639 --> 01:15:11,320 to fund the project is the school going 1503 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,000 to fund the project as it was presented 1504 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,400 to us or the school going to do because 1505 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,800 generally the school like for instance 1506 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,080 they took over the building down here 1507 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,639 and then became administrative offices 1508 01:15:20,639 --> 01:15:24,639 down there so is it still going to be um 1509 01:15:24,639 --> 01:15:26,960 a commun some part of it anyway I don't 1510 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,760 expect the school to uh fund an entire 1511 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,400 Community Center and the school not have 1512 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,360 any role in the building so is a school 1513 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,480 going to what is the project and that's a question we we might want to 1514 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:42,320 ask ask the the lead person as a school 1515 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,480 as to what exactly that's information I 1516 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,480 don't have much I'm sharing what I again 1517 01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:49,199 it's still somewhat fluid where the 1518 01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:52,400 school district has a very serious 1519 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,960 interest in that building in that site 1520 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,320 and they're 1521 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,360 doing an evaluation in terms of will it 1522 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,679 fit their needs and I'm optimistic that 1523 01:16:03,679 --> 01:16:05,960 that's going to move 1524 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,719 forward 1525 01:16:07,719 --> 01:16:12,239 and it's a dynamic process but we we 1526 01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:15,400 don't have a plan B if it doesn't no 1527 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,120 okay well you know again it's um we 1528 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,440 don't have a plan B the city does it 1529 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:27,350 because we don't have the money for m 1530 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,080 so you know again I'll just bring up the 1531 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,840 point point that I know there was there 1532 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,800 was some um conversation like well you 1533 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,840 know um that that neighborhood had 1534 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,360 doesn't I don't know it kind of implied 1535 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,600 that it doesn't leave and that's what I 1536 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,280 took from last night's conversation um 1537 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,400 however um the boys and girls club was 1538 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,320 there is now in Mount Pleasant and this 1539 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,639 just another Boys and Girls Club so 1540 01:16:47,639 --> 01:16:49,440 maybe other communities don't have a 1541 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,440 community center necessarily but they do 1542 01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,199 have facilities for children the Boys 1543 01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:54,520 and Girls Club there's two of them in M 1544 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,880 Pleasant there's one in reram and then 1545 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,280 other parts of the city have have 1546 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,320 projects have places so um I just want 1547 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,000 to make sure that as we do the Craig M 1548 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,639 project that we don't have this 1549 01:17:06,639 --> 01:17:08,600 dinosaur of a building that's just 1550 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,320 sitting there and nothing is in it and 1551 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,719 that somehow we make sure that we're not 1552 01:17:13,719 --> 01:17:15,159 only it's something in it it's something 1553 01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:17,600 that it's just not only for the school 1554 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,840 district but people children in the 1555 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,400 community can 1556 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,080 um can be a part of it and I think Mr Mr 1557 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,360 uh Williams was saying is that not that 1558 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,520 he's necessarily he understands why the 1559 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:31,840 money was taken back but just in the 1560 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,400 method in which it was done that people 1561 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,679 were not informed and the way they found 1562 01:17:36,679 --> 01:17:40,040 out it was just uh then we started 1563 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,709 getting phone 1564 01:17:43,719 --> 01:17:47,120 calls well number one I 1565 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,320 mean correct me if I'm wrong the money 1566 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,520 hasn't been officially taken back yet 1567 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,000 right we still have decisions to make in 1568 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,199 order for that to happen correct what 1569 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:57,360 was that number one I would say that and 1570 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,280 I think that the program I mean I think 1571 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,320 the school district you know I can't 1572 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,360 speak to what you know again whatever 1573 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,639 you know assessments they have to make 1574 01:18:07,639 --> 01:18:09,400 sure that the building is feasible meets 1575 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,280 their needs U to the mayor's point I 1576 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,199 think that no matter who um is uh enters 1577 01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:19,280 into that space um you know we want to 1578 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,600 encourage them to work closely with the 1579 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,320 community so the community 1580 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,320 um it still has some autonomy during the 1581 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,080 process and a lot of times when larger 1582 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,400 entities um get involved in the process 1583 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,840 they don't leave that space I think that 1584 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,480 the current leadership within the school 1585 01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:40,360 district I think um we have a greater 1586 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,239 chance of of that being a reality that 1587 01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:43,800 there is some autonomy there and there 1588 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,400 is some a genuine Community Partnership 1589 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,120 um I just again I would just caution us 1590 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,120 because I don't know that 1591 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,600 we to the mayor's point it's still 1592 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:53,920 pretty fluid you know and it is a 1593 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,120 dynamic process so I you know I 1594 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,639 don't want to make any decisions based 1595 01:18:59,639 --> 01:19:01,080 on something that we don't really know 1596 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:08,750 is um going to materialize as 1597 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,199 yeah I do have one other I'm sorry we 1598 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:12,440 are we finish with that particular 1599 01:19:12,440 --> 01:19:14,280 discussion I I want to no I just want to 1600 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,840 ask any other question on this um these 1601 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,080 article yes go ahead questione because 1602 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,840 again I received an email regarding um 1603 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,560 doors and they 1604 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,360 had there was something that they 1605 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,280 already done the work but then they came 1606 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,000 back you remember this came back so you 1607 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,440 see also asked that during this budget 1608 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:37,960 season are we going to reconsider the 1609 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,840 70,000 for their project once to make 1610 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,510 sure every brought that question to the 1611 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,159 table so we we did initially uh allocate 1612 01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:51,400 this money and then we uh amend the 1613 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,159 resolution to take that money back 1614 01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:54,880 $76,000 1615 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,679 right and now you you receive an email 1616 01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:00,280 asking for this money back well we what 1617 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,239 we took back was money that they had 1618 01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:06,360 already spent and done before before the 1619 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,840 project before they received that and 1620 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,719 that was not allowed they couldn't we 1621 01:20:09,719 --> 01:20:10,920 couldn't pay for them for work that was 1622 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,600 already done but uh then they submitted 1623 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,320 something that said that we had had work 1624 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,239 other work that would 1625 01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:20,199 qualify and I don't think we ever got to 1626 01:20:20,199 --> 01:20:22,000 the point where we discussed 1627 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,639 that did you have something Miss Patrick 1628 01:20:25,639 --> 01:20:27,800 I think brought that up and discussed it 1629 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,040 I I think that we did discuss it in a 1630 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,239 committee meeting I don't know that we 1631 01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:34,120 came to a decision but we did discuss 1632 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,920 what you're what you're talking about 1633 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,120 right and I'm bringing it back because 1634 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,679 we did make a decision and because I got 1635 01:20:38,679 --> 01:20:41,800 an email to ask is there a possibility 1636 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,679 from Proctors yes from Proctors I should 1637 01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:46,560 be clear from Proctors yeah I am trying 1638 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,800 to recall when we discussed it our our 1639 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,560 balance at that point in time was almost 1640 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,159 zero yes yeah I think when you brought 1641 01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:55,760 us the allocation and B say that it was 1642 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,320 thata point where we we can't even 1643 01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,840 reconsider it because we did not have 1644 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,880 the funding correct 1645 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,159 yeah yes so yeah I can 1646 01:21:05,159 --> 01:21:07,400 yeah it's more than likely they already 1647 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,960 paid for that yes they new stuff 1648 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,560 again would be eligible 1649 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,840 again well the first one was because 1650 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,440 they did it even before their Grant was 1651 01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:18,440 submitted correct before we got the 1652 01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:24,709 money yes so definitely not 1653 01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:27,760 question so if looking at the 1654 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,159 outstanding balances in the OPA 1655 01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:34,840 funding and say say there's just a use 1656 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,520 of five half a million right and we 1657 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,280 talking the possibility of it going into 1658 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,560 sidewalk budget if we created a line for 1659 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,280 Youth Services on the park and wck maybe 1660 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,199 address some of the concerns that you 1661 01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:49,760 would we have to prescribe how it would 1662 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,280 be spent or if we just create a line use 1663 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,239 services and and say maybe that 500 1664 01:21:55,239 --> 01:21:59,239 that's put 250 for you services and kind 1665 01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:01,280 of look at the needs in the city and 1666 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,159 then some of the areas of concern and 1667 01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:05,280 Target 1668 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,400 activities um in those communities would 1669 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,480 that be an option for us we we do have a 1670 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:13,040 lineing the budget here for $150,000 and 1671 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,560 I think one of the question that was 1672 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,840 asked where are we in terms of spending 1673 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,280 that is it adequate do we need to fund 1674 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,080 it more into 1675 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,159 2025 the employment mean the employ you 1676 01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:26,320 employment we do 1677 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,360 programming oh you're talking about this 1678 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,480 generally here or yeah just just like 1679 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:32,360 come up with some creative ideas like we 1680 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,440 create a budget line so here are some 1681 01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,920 areas that you know at at nighttime 1682 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,480 right there's a lot of free time in this 1683 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,199 community we got some concerns us create 1684 01:22:40,199 --> 01:22:42,880 a night time program maybe an existing 1685 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,639 school that will fall into this the 1686 01:22:45,639 --> 01:22:49,709 youth allocation here that we have the 1687 01:22:49,719 --> 01:22:51,760 program my understanding from the mayor 1688 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,520 is that the youth program is they hired 1689 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,239 young people to work right in City Hall 1690 01:22:57,239 --> 01:22:58,880 so it was also used in the parks 1691 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,520 department too but but what I should say 1692 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,639 for City staff not necessarily into Hall 1693 01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:08,000 but all City staff not not outside of 1694 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,520 well it was used this year for the year 1695 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,560 prior to that we use it in the school we 1696 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,360 use the funding for the school district 1697 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,480 partner with them yes yes so I think 1698 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:19,040 it's not specifically for it was more of 1699 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,840 helping out this year in the 1700 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,840 city but I think that can spread out for 1701 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,760 all theity without 1702 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,320 agency this year was all the city that was the answer to the question so I 1703 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,040 don't know going forward if that's the 1704 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,199 plan or if there's also an opportunity 1705 01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:38,040 to use it beyond 1706 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,040 that or how that works well what council 1707 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,239 and is saying correct 1708 01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:48,920 is we could do programs it could be city 1709 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,440 employees but it might be in a school 1710 01:23:53,440 --> 01:24:00,080 building Poss yeah Co well I was wondering just 1711 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,600 um I mean again if the school district 1712 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,159 and I know where you know if the school 1713 01:24:05,159 --> 01:24:07,080 district was to take over the um 1714 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,679 Community Center then there'd be youth 1715 01:24:10,679 --> 01:24:13,000 programming you know going on in that in 1716 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,280 that facility Well I that's I was 1717 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,400 thinking um you know after school 1718 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,040 programming and that kind of that was 1719 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,120 qualify for cdbg 1720 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,920 funding so that is there so we would 1721 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,719 encourage to make an application at that 1722 01:24:25,719 --> 01:24:31,080 point in time and we will encourage um that application to be have a 1723 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,440 favorable 1724 01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,600 consideration and 1725 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,760 funding can be um can be available to 1726 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,880 help with the administrative CA to help 1727 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,400 run that U those programs there I 1728 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,280 wonder so uh thank you excuse me Joe you 1729 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,520 want to just take I I think there's a 1730 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,560 pretty stringent um restriction on our 1731 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,400 punds so how we can I understand take 1732 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,600 that money put a separate line save for 1733 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,960 ourselves to help the youth um I don't I 1734 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,920 don't know we could reach out to miss 1735 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,440 carer because that's exactly what you 1736 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:11,000 want to do but I don't think we can sa 1737 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,360 it but that's why we're trying to to 1738 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,239 spend you know find out what's happening 1739 01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:17,480 now so we can allocate that money but it 1740 01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:19,080 a great 1741 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,119 idea I was just going to say I think 1742 01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:24,920 part of the um benefits of partner with 1743 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,239 the school districts that they bring 1744 01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:28,360 resources and so I would think that the 1745 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,480 school district is going to bring put 1746 01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:33,159 the resources then maybe we should be 1747 01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:34,760 looking 1748 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:40,600 um uh to put you know maybe these uh 1749 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,639 leftover for black or better turn 1750 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:44,480 resources in in in in a different 1751 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,600 direction I would just think that you 1752 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,480 know one of question I asked the May to 1753 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:53,320 look at we have um expanded this um this 1754 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,920 year from L and to see do we need more 1755 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,080 or is 150 adequate to take us into 2025 1756 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,679 because we need to expand yes we're 1757 01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:04,639 doing a good job in employing people 1758 01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:06,760 here and to kind of you know introduce 1759 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,760 them to the workforce which is a good 1760 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,440 thing MH and it's a wonderful program 1761 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:12,920 but at the same time we can expand it 1762 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,480 out to continue to help and work with 1763 01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:18,270 the school 1764 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,000 district I think also that um part of 1765 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,159 the cdbg and correct me if I'm wrong but 1766 01:26:23,159 --> 01:26:25,719 I believe that there's Coalition still 1767 01:26:25,719 --> 01:26:29,560 of um nonprofits that are youth serving 1768 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,000 nonprofits that are um they get cdbg 1769 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,440 funding as a 1770 01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:37,679 coalition um and work together with our 1771 01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:40,400 director development to um provide youth 1772 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,679 programming too I'm all for more youth 1773 01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:45,560 programming but I just wanted to bring 1774 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,679 that up as well that we do have that I 1775 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:49,760 think that's still in place um I think 1776 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,080 it was like six or seven different 1777 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,040 organizations that were under one 1778 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,920 umbrella um 1779 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,280 but when we have this car when we have 1780 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,239 this Carver come in we'll be able to ask 1781 01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:01,520 for that too yeah so we can follow up 1782 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,040 with that in terms of the the actuals 1783 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,199 and expended to dat on that line and see 1784 01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:11,920 where we are if it's adequate yes if if 1785 01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,880 it's not adequate we can make a 1786 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,800 recommendation to see if where if we can 1787 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,159 find some funding and then use your 1788 01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:23,719 words money Tri yes the program that we 1789 01:27:23,719 --> 01:27:26,440 need to continue to to fund every year 1790 01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:30,360 mhm so I was just thinking um and this 1791 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:31,679 again this might be more a better 1792 01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:34,400 question for Miss carer but I think 1793 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,000 within the parameters of what's 1794 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,679 acceptable uses or funds for arpa youth 1795 01:27:38,679 --> 01:27:42,040 programming um definitely fits well 1796 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,520 within that so I don't think that we 1797 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,280 probably to your point I want to make 1798 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,000 sure we're using the money but I think 1799 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,199 that that's that would be an allowable 1800 01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:50,440 use though I do think 1801 01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:54,719 so that's how we have some of these the you program right current it's 1802 01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:58,159 funded um from but I think we can expand 1803 01:27:58,159 --> 01:27:59,880 it yeah yeah I was speaking to to Miss 1804 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,600 D's point and making sure that we're 1805 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,040 operating within the parameters of the 1806 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,600 AR are yeah I was thinking I was just 1807 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,910 saying I think that that would meet the 1808 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,400 criteria a prime example is the C house 1809 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,400 theying that to to advantage of the use 1810 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:27,950 abely there's several yeah page 43 1811 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,560 so that's on we can see the actual in 1812 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,119 2022 1813 01:28:33,119 --> 01:28:37,880 2023 it was almost close to us we had 1814 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,660 a 1815 01:28:41,670 --> 01:28:46,830 [Music] 1816 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,330 watch spent on 1817 01:28:49,330 --> 01:28:54,790 [Music] 1818 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,639 so I'm just going to circle back to the 1819 01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:58,600 prop question so is that something we're 1820 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,080 going to be considering or it just um 1821 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,639 not going to consider anything else in 1822 01:29:03,639 --> 01:29:07,790 terms of the other 1823 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,440 [Music] 1824 01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:12,719 funds at this point in time we don't 1825 01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:15,639 have funding 1826 01:29:15,639 --> 01:29:19,560 $843 46 $846 sorry thank you for 1827 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,920 correcting me so I think we yes we can 1828 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,360 consider it when we make these 1829 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,639 reallocation back and make amendments 1830 01:29:25,639 --> 01:29:29,719 when the next two cycles hopefully well 1831 01:29:29,719 --> 01:29:31,679 not hopefully we should the next two 1832 01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:33,360 cycle make this amendment yeah that can 1833 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,800 be brought back to the table for 1834 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,040 discussion and see where members are in 1835 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,440 terms of that I just for clear I'm not 1836 01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:43,440 in favor of it I think there are bigger 1837 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:46,960 needs in the off in the city uh I think 1838 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,880 the concessions that are being asked of 1839 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,119 our residents I know we're having these 1840 01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:52,440 discussions right now it is an 1841 01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:56,880 unfortunate circumstance but 1842 01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,080 I we're not proposing small 1843 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,560 increases and for very important reasons 1844 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,440 and then in forecasting what 2026 looks 1845 01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:09,239 like I think if there are any benefits 1846 01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:12,520 out there to be provided to the tax base 1847 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,679 and you have to do that 1848 01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:19,719 now because it is only going to get in 1849 01:30:19,719 --> 01:30:20,760 and I want to be careful so I don't want 1850 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,080 to scare anyone but I think I'm trying 1851 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,239 to be transparent we have had a very discussion from a very good 1852 01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:27,760 presentation from our Police Department 1853 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,480 our fire department their needs are 1854 01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:33,560 their needs and as we have ongoing Union 1855 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,840 nego or contract 1856 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,840 negotiations the number is going to get 1857 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,199 bigger so I think it is unfortunate I 1858 01:30:40,199 --> 01:30:41,840 appreciate Proctors and what they do for 1859 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,400 our community but I think there should 1860 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,760 be a clear message and just speaking for 1861 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,040 myself I I don't think we can do it now 1862 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:49,960 there are two other members in the 1863 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,679 committee but I just want to be clear no 1864 01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:53,360 you're Absolut you're absolutely correct 1865 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,800 and that's the reason I I am pushing I 1866 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,960 am pushing for us to revisit these um 1867 01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,920 allocation and if ageny are not of the 1868 01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,480 power bring it back in we make our 1869 01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,239 Amendment make our adjustment reallocate 1870 01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:08,760 to the city and let's keep it in house 1871 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,320 and that will help us in the 20126 by 1872 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,870 doing that partly rather than 1873 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,520 later the one question we were 1874 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,280 neighborhood neighborhood they talk 1875 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,199 about reallocating some money we made 1876 01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:26,280 one allocation $500,000 assignments part 1877 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,760 and there were some email I'm not sure 1878 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,239 if everybody was copy on it if not we 1879 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:32,719 can share it yes everyone got the email 1880 01:31:32,719 --> 01:31:34,800 they were asking for some reallocation 1881 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,040 to ker Street Park and we direct them to 1882 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,880 your office and the department of 1883 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,400 development to kind of like work with 1884 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,880 you and the department of development 1885 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,800 see what the the needs are there at car 1886 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,800 street and we we can make amendment to 1887 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,280 some 1888 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,719 recommendation this point not prepared 1889 01:31:54,719 --> 01:31:56,159 to make a recommendation out there's 1890 01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:59,880 still work to be done in Stein's 1891 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,400 part 1892 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,400 and i' like to make sure that gets 1893 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,239 done so that we're not kind of doing 1894 01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:13,280 half F projects in two parts and then to 1895 01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:17,360 focus on Harry Street we've worked with 1896 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,639 uh car street where we've done some tree 1897 01:32:19,639 --> 01:32:21,719 planting and some other modifications 1898 01:32:21,719 --> 01:32:24,840 there and so you know it's moving 1899 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,480 ahead uh there's some 1900 01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:30,760 internal uh discussions within that 1901 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,199 group you know it 1902 01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:36,280 wasn't best I can tell a formal meeting 1903 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,600 the goose Hill Neighborhood to make that 1904 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,080 recommendation to pull money out is a 1905 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,800 smaller group that part of the 1906 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,000 leadership I'm not saying anybody is 1907 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,560 wrong but there's uh discussions I think 1908 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,199 still have to happen before make any 1909 01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:55,920 final decision ision and the first being 1910 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,560 what are the actual costs we need in 1911 01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,320 Stein Park to get that done and before 1912 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,040 we look at K 1913 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,400 Street and they did bring it up at the 1914 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,080 meeting the most they brought that up 1915 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,600 and then I think after that there was an 1916 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,600 email that went to um that that came to 1917 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,280 me and asked I think it came to all the 1918 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,800 council and then I my resp my response 1919 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,000 was that they should go to the 1920 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,800 Department of development it's not up to 1921 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,400 us to take that information that send it 1922 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,280 to the Department of development inur 1923 01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,360 would then you know consider bring back 1924 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:27,400 whatever they had and bring it to the 1925 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,960 council although the other night I think 1926 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,360 that there was a misunderstanding that 1927 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,920 they could again come back to the 1928 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,400 council and um and ask that 1929 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,760 question no that's why I I didn't make 1930 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,080 that comment to a member that they need 1931 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,960 to speak to the mayor Department of 1932 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,800 development and the engineer and to kind 1933 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,560 of lay out what uh is needed ass 1934 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,239 signment and the f 1935 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:56,360 to complete that project and any left 1936 01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,320 over then it can be reallocated to that 1937 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,960 project but it will have to be um driven 1938 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:10,470 by um Fair estimate from the 1939 01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:31,790 engineering any question on this 1940 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,790 so just to address the 1941 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,320 um the hill 1942 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,679 hearts and the money that is available 1943 01:34:40,679 --> 01:34:44,280 Hill schol allocated 1944 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,760 $250,000 1945 01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,639 and it looked like they a balance of 1946 01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:52,760 $230,000 and the compensation that was 1947 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,360 center around this last time and the 1948 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,800 misinformation that was F that nobody 1949 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,440 wanted to move any money out from B is 1950 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,840 more about how do we spend this money in 1951 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:08,239 B within the park there and repair the 1952 01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,760 pool is I enough money to fix the pool 1953 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,400 or do we do a splash p and I think that 1954 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,880 M Patrick and Miss P was trying to to 1955 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,960 get in terms of um how do we spend the 1956 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:27,310 remaining money there internally 1957 01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,159 there are some spending there against 1958 01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:31,520 that L the hell horse 1959 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,760 pool the big question is is that 1960 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,480 adequate 1961 01:35:35,480 --> 01:35:41,080 $250,000 to complete the re there's 1962 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,400 uh some negotiations that are going on 1963 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:45,760 that 1964 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,600 uh 1965 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,679 say Council to Executive session if you 1966 01:35:50,679 --> 01:35:52,360 want be briefed on 1967 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,990 that other 1968 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,000 yes I I was going to actually discuss a 1969 01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,320 couple things more go in executive 1970 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,600 session we want to talk about some 1971 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,280 pending expens into next year that we 1972 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,320 are not accounting for the 1973 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,239 budget that 1974 01:36:07,239 --> 01:36:10,040 be and yes we can do that and then talk 1975 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:17,390 about the fire yeah put 1976 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,080 couple so just no I just want to clear 1977 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,239 the ear on this um Hill hor allocation 1978 01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:25,360 the allocation the one for the Fair View 1979 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,040 part and the pool no money is being 1980 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,239 removed from the the B allocation we 1981 01:36:31,239 --> 01:36:33,560 might we might to repair the pool and 1982 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,080 stuff that is no that is not happening 1983 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,600 that's no go that's just no the money is 1984 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,920 not adequate it's 1985 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,960 not and actually um you know you all got 1986 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,440 the email you saw the responses and so 1987 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,679 somehow the information was that at this 1988 01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:51,800 table that Miss Patrick and I were 1989 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,320 trying to figure out ways to remove the 1990 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,400 money that conversation didn't happen 1991 01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,080 the conversation was around the money 1992 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,159 that is currently here what can we do 1993 01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:02,239 with it and the suggestion that I made 1994 01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:04,000 was that could we do a slash pad and 1995 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,679 that was a conversation somehow that got 1996 01:37:05,679 --> 01:37:07,840 misconstrued to you're taking the money 1997 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,119 back an email came to us and an email 1998 01:37:10,119 --> 01:37:11,760 went out to the community or at least 1999 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,000 the Bel group just just so you know 2000 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,199 saying that this is what they're doing 2001 01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:17,040 and then an email said oh stand down 2002 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,159 that's not what they doing after they 2003 01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,360 got the email saying otherwise so just 2004 01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,840 want to make it clear at this table that conversation didn't take place then 2005 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,560 it's not taking place now um no one's 2006 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,080 asking to remove money from helpers but 2007 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,880 rather to figure out within the park how 2008 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,360 we use the money to the best um of our 2009 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:37,760 ability based on the amount of money 2010 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,119 that there 2011 01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:43,760 is so may would it be can we can you get 2012 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,920 an update to 2013 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:47,920 theate for this 2014 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,679 pool just for the sake of discussion to 2015 01:37:50,679 --> 01:37:53,560 see where where it lands in terms of how 2016 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,080 make adjustments in the next couple of 2017 01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,320 weeks I'm probably not going to be able 2018 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,990 to get a number that would 2019 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,760 be accurate No No something something 2020 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,239 that we can you 2021 01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:15,350 know well we did 2022 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:19,310 AOL we one in the 2023 01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,040 city yeah because if it's we allocated 2024 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,080 250,000 if it's like 100,000 more then 2025 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,080 consideration can be given to say okay 2026 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,719 if it's that amount I'm just thr numbers 2027 01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:33,239 out that number is too low and the 2028 01:38:33,239 --> 01:38:35,760 engineering issue with that pool is it 2029 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,800 was losing huge amount of water every 2030 01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:44,760 day um they could not identify where the 2031 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,159 water was going they can't find an 2032 01:38:47,159 --> 01:38:50,560 obvious Leep and what they're worried 2033 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,280 about is the potential to create a cab 2034 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,320 either underneath the pool or adjacent 2035 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,840 to the pool so that you 2036 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,239 would have people in swimming you would 2037 01:39:01,239 --> 01:39:04,599 have a catastrophic collapse of the pool 2038 01:39:04,599 --> 01:39:08,199 is why I closed it number of years ago 2039 01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:12,880 and you the repairs would 2040 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,149 be just 2041 01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:19,679 yes the millions so then the 2042 01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:23,639 consideration is a PL spash pad is the 2043 01:39:23,639 --> 01:39:26,840 ideal thing to to kind of replace 2044 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,280 that consideration can be given to that 2045 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,280 they need 2046 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:36,709 discussion all 2047 01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:39,679 right I don't have anything else on 2048 01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:48,149 this anybody else 2049 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:51,080 this the the connect Foundation the food 2050 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,000 program The Healthy Choice program it's 2051 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,159 still 540,000 2052 01:39:57,159 --> 01:39:58,960 there 2053 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,070 any you raise your 2054 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,119 hand Anthony or Derek they've been 2055 01:40:06,119 --> 01:40:08,960 drawing some money down yeah we have 2056 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,340 like about 2057 01:40:10,340 --> 01:40:11,719 [Music] 2058 01:40:11,719 --> 01:40:14,360 240 should be 2059 01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:19,880 the yeah yes that's correct yeah 21 2135 2060 01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:24,990 is 2061 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,750 bance of 2062 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,840 542 well I just want to say I think that 2063 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,760 the initial um allocation of 600,000 to 2064 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,440 this connecting Foundation was for a 2065 01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:39,280 three-year project so um I don't know 2066 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,000 because it is a lower figure that they 2067 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,599 have spended so far to date but I think 2068 01:40:43,599 --> 01:40:45,560 that that was the that was the overall 2069 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,119 plan I think when we first uh gave them 2070 01:40:48,119 --> 01:40:49,960 the the 2071 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,000 600,000 and they but we I think it would 2072 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,520 be to get some more detail on that um in 2073 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,239 terms of 2074 01:40:58,239 --> 01:41:00,800 um they they established a food Council 2075 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,480 that's connected County food council 2076 01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:05,560 with that with that funding um but I 2077 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,880 can't I I'm not sure funding that there 2078 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,400 that's going out into the community from 2079 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,159 is from that money I don't think it is 2080 01:41:13,159 --> 01:41:15,400 but I think we need to we probably would 2081 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,639 need to get some clarification from them 2082 01:41:17,639 --> 01:41:19,599 but it was a 2083 01:41:19,599 --> 01:41:21,280 three-year 2084 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,639 you yeah provide that update for 2085 01:41:25,639 --> 01:41:28,280 us miss car too any other comments on 2086 01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:34,629 this what D Miss car okay 2087 01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:39,480 Miss say that all right say 2088 01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:43,040 the there is one report of talk and then 2089 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,119 we'll go into exu session and then we'll 2090 01:41:46,119 --> 01:41:50,830 continue 2091 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,080 tomorrow hasib with 2092 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,560 the 2093 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,760 vacancies I think some question was 2094 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:05,149 asked 2095 01:42:05,159 --> 01:42:07,560 today 2096 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,960 address they everyone received this 2097 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,159 email 2098 01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:20,520 M yes Chief Clipper yes okay 2099 01:42:20,530 --> 01:42:27,550 [Music] 2100 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,400 this is an extra this is an extra vacy 2101 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:31,239 I'll give 2102 01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:32,840 it 2103 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,199 V oh everybody has the 2104 01:42:36,199 --> 01:42:39,719 vacancies VES make I had an extra copy 2105 01:42:39,719 --> 01:42:42,280 so I just put it on de's 2106 01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:46,080 pile let's make a three 2107 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,000 [Music] 2108 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,400 copies unless it's unless it's updated 2109 01:42:52,400 --> 01:43:12,070 [Music] 2110 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,560 yeah I took the one 2111 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:31,430 back it's a little different 2112 01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:34,760 8464 does she carry the B it's 2113 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:41,189 $846 yeah no I saw that yeah that's left 2114 01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:42,240 yes 2115 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:48,270 [Music] 2116 01:43:48,280 --> 01:44:04,109 that yo stretch yeah 2117 01:44:04,119 --> 01:44:08,910 that's a 2118 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,000 mile M 2119 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,920 stopped finally 2120 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:20,890 stopped so 2121 01:44:20,900 --> 01:44:28,109 [Music] 2122 01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:32,650 sometimes I wake 2123 01:44:32,660 --> 01:44:49,430 [Music] 2124 01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:54,159 up just stret it stretch it out 2125 01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:56,280 right up 2126 01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:49,790 [Music] 2127 01:45:49,800 --> 01:46:00,360 we were looking to do 2128 01:46:00,370 --> 01:46:01,639 [Music] 2129 01:46:01,639 --> 01:46:21,390 cut 2130 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:26,410 the have one of m 2131 01:46:26,420 --> 01:47:14,310 [Music] 2132 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:23,229 put 2133 01:47:23,239 --> 01:47:24,599 the 2134 01:47:24,599 --> 01:47:26,880 fun I'm just 2135 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,340 asking not quite yet not quite 2136 01:47:31,340 --> 01:47:51,589 [Music] 2137 01:47:51,599 --> 01:47:55,430 yet that 2138 01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:57,159 no I will let you know just couple 2139 01:47:57,159 --> 01:47:58,239 things we need to discuss and then we'll 2140 01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:01,080 go in ex session and W up for 2141 01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,639 7:30 we we just go for the vacy list 2142 01:48:04,639 --> 01:48:06,639 there were some questions to that and 2143 01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:08,800 this report for us we just want to go 2144 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,360 through it to make sure that we address 2145 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:11,400 all the 2146 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,239 concerns and if there have questions we 2147 01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:21,880 can ask 2148 01:48:21,890 --> 01:48:24,400 [Music] 2149 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:27,119 and I think this is an early list it's 2150 01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:29,960 like the code enforcement is actually 2151 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,520 the results came back on the test so P 2152 01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,800 some of those the Law Department doesn't 2153 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:43,109 reflect these positions there we those 2154 01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:48,560 to I sent follow email 2155 01:48:48,570 --> 01:48:55,950 [Music] 2156 01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:01,040 um go ahead please I just want to in the 2157 01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,719 engineering is it the IPS 3 that's 2158 01:49:03,719 --> 01:49:06,960 vacant or is it the IPS 4 on page 10 I 2159 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,400 don't know why I thought I have a note 2160 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,239 to myself but I don't know why I guess 2161 01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:18,070 three is the B it is 2162 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:24,830 okay thank you 2163 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,480 any question on 2164 01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:31,360 this go ahead please um it is in regards 2165 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,440 to the deputy Corporation Council I have 2166 01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:37,840 concerns with eliminating that 2167 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,239 um secondary role within that department 2168 01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:45,840 um I can understand the reasoning behind 2169 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,400 trying to replace that with a certain 2170 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,800 number of part-time uh assistant 2171 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,199 Corporation Council 2172 01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:56,119 positions um but to me definitely having 2173 01:49:56,119 --> 01:49:58,360 either a redundancy within the 2174 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:03,280 department even if more having a um like 2175 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,320 progression to support but also future 2176 01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,320 because uh our current Corporation C is 2177 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:10,599 not going to be there forever so I think 2178 01:50:10,599 --> 01:50:13,280 having the proper um training and 2179 01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,520 development is important um it is in 2180 01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,400 place in every other department so I 2181 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,560 think to have this not reflect that 2182 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,679 current standard um I think 2183 01:50:23,679 --> 01:50:25,840 is could potentially be an issue not 2184 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:34,870 saying that it will be saying it could 2185 01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:40,000 be I stay ask for help I if you guys 2186 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,400 want things to move quickly and 2187 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:46,079 efficiently more help would not be uh I 2188 01:50:46,079 --> 01:50:55,830 mean more help would be very appreciated 2189 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,239 so this followup question would be in 2190 01:50:58,239 --> 01:50:59,960 response to the number of positions that 2191 01:50:59,960 --> 01:51:01,920 you requesting assistant Corporation 2192 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,800 councils obviously if the council was to 2193 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,800 elect to still fund the deputy it 2194 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,599 wouldn't be the full ask are you 2195 01:51:08,599 --> 01:51:11,040 confident you would be able to fill all 2196 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,560 the requested positions that you did ask 2197 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,199 for in regards to the assistant 2198 01:51:14,199 --> 01:51:15,760 Corporation counsel if that makes sense 2199 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:19,800 so I don't know if iard question you're requesting four positions I don't 2200 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,119 have that 2201 01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:24,119 line so if we were to proceed with that 2202 01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:26,440 are you confident you would fill those F 2203 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:28,719 throughout the year those are filled 2204 01:51:28,719 --> 01:51:31,520 yeah those are filled yeah the parttime 2205 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,270 assistants are 2206 01:51:32,270 --> 01:51:34,800 [Music] 2207 01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,960 F so go ahead please so we'd be adding 2208 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,880 if Mr Williams So you you're are you 2209 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:43,880 thinking that we add the deputy cor 2210 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,840 Council back in at 2211 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,560 106,000 I 2212 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,920 think did you is it that 2213 01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,560 the Well it's thing I think we're trying 2214 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,840 to do like the assistant Corporation 2215 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,520 cons on the PDM and then um kind of take 2216 01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,000 some funding from that line upwards it's 2217 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,280 a movement within zero impact it's not 2218 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,000 going to be zero impact have to add some 2219 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,880 money if there's a consideration so 2220 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,840 defitely F the deputy Corporation 2221 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,400 Council 2222 01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:17,599 line well I mean we still need 2223 01:52:17,599 --> 01:52:19,199 c 2224 01:52:19,199 --> 01:52:22,760 um me 2225 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,520 my suggestion to you if you're concerned 2226 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,629 about 2227 01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:33,920 uh is perhaps add a uh you don't 2228 01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,079 necessarily need a deputy if you're 2229 01:52:36,079 --> 01:52:39,280 concerned about fulltime people you can 2230 01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,679 consider adding um another full-time 2231 01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:43,960 assistant Which is less expensive than a 2232 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,599 deputy that person would still be being 2233 01:52:46,599 --> 01:52:50,239 trained over time just like uh we have 2234 01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:53,560 someone who's 2235 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,639 going to be filling the full-time 2236 01:52:56,639 --> 01:52:58,679 assistant so I mean that person's being 2237 01:52:58,679 --> 01:53:03,069 trained over time if that's your 2238 01:53:03,079 --> 01:53:06,280 concerned so go ahead pleas would it be 2239 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,000 so if we're not going to do if you're 2240 01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,159 saying that the deputy this isn't 2241 01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:12,599 necessary but would it and if going to 2242 01:53:12,599 --> 01:53:14,360 hire an assistant Corporation counsel 2243 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:15,960 would it be better to hire someone that 2244 01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,560 already had the skill set as opposed to 2245 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,520 someone who we you know have to bring in 2246 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,679 and train even though could we get 2247 01:53:22,679 --> 01:53:24,719 someone at a I don't know what the cost 2248 01:53:24,719 --> 01:53:27,040 would be me I can certainly look that up 2249 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,440 so we could have someone who had already 2250 01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:31,119 had the skill set as an assistant as as 2251 01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:32,480 opposed to someone you have to bring in 2252 01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:35,560 a train well certainly the more you pay 2253 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,360 you're going to get someone with more 2254 01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,119 experience um I was just making the 2255 01:53:40,119 --> 01:53:42,239 suggestion because it's less expensive 2256 01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:45,159 to hire an assistant as compared to a 2257 01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:48,270 more experienced 2258 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,400 deputy just want to remind everybody too 2259 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,800 uh during the years Andrew col was here 2260 01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,560 was he four or five years he was here 2261 01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:57,280 yeah I was going to ask he only hired 2262 01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,719 one guy five years he didn't he at least 2263 01:54:00,719 --> 01:54:02,840 we have staff of people that you know 2264 01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,400 now whereas previously last five years 2265 01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,079 we only had one other 2266 01:54:08,079 --> 01:54:10,159 guy he was only there for the last 2267 01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:12,560 couple years too and if I'm not mistaken 2268 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,760 um any can help me with this for for 2269 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,239 many years we didn't have a deputy yeah 2270 01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:19,840 you didn't have anybody yeah for many 2271 01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,040 years I know I'm trying to recall this 2272 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,920 only happed like recently where this 2273 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,440 position was um funded over a couple 2274 01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:28,599 years if you're con I mean if you're 2275 01:54:28,599 --> 01:54:31,520 concerned about us being able to manage 2276 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,079 all the workload like the mayor had said 2277 01:54:34,079 --> 01:54:37,199 earlier about use perum and sometimes 2278 01:54:37,199 --> 01:54:39,719 outside Council you can consider just 2279 01:54:39,719 --> 01:54:43,639 adding more to the perum line um because 2280 01:54:43,639 --> 01:54:46,360 that's the line that like if we need 2281 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,040 another assistant another part-time 2282 01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,560 assistant it's going to come out of that 2283 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,280 perum line um and a part-time assistant 2284 01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,000 at 10 hours is 2285 01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:00,320 $32,500 and the perum is only 2286 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,639 $55,000 so if you want to do a cost 2287 01:55:03,639 --> 01:55:06,560 effective add to our department you can 2288 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,199 consider uh adding to that perum which 2289 01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:11,040 will give us the ability to hire more 2290 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,360 part-time people which like we had 2291 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,960 talked about earlier you get more bang 2292 01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,480 for your buck because you're getting 2293 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,719 people usually who have either retired 2294 01:55:18,719 --> 01:55:21,639 or have their own practice that are 2295 01:55:21,639 --> 01:55:23,880 experienced and they help they have a 2296 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,199 lot of experience in a particular area 2297 01:55:26,199 --> 01:55:27,520 and so you get a lot of bang for your 2298 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:31,119 buck when you I have found um and other 2299 01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:33,280 there are other 2300 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:37,760 um uh law Departments of municipalities 2301 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,079 that are also switching to this 2302 01:55:40,079 --> 01:55:43,239 part-time uh model because it's easier 2303 01:55:43,239 --> 01:55:44,079 to 2304 01:55:44,079 --> 01:55:48,920 attract uh talent that way um and so my 2305 01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,079 suggestion if this is your concern is 2306 01:55:51,079 --> 01:55:54,760 perhaps to add some Mone into the per DM 2307 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,920 and we that will give us the ability to 2308 01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:01,040 hire more part-time people who are uh 2309 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,079 experience and we do have a full-time 2310 01:56:03,079 --> 01:56:05,440 assistant well he's not licensed yet but 2311 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:10,480 he licensed in uh January Assuming he's 2312 01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,079 passed the bar exam which we are 2313 01:56:12,079 --> 01:56:14,159 optimistic on so there is another 2314 01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:15,520 full-time 2315 01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,599 person um that will be trained and that 2316 01:56:18,599 --> 01:56:23,000 will learn over time um from both my and 2317 01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,760 all of our part-time people who are so 2318 01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:29,079 skilled and experienced and um helpful 2319 01:56:29,079 --> 01:56:31,880 with us where is that in the budget 2320 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,679 they're already there um that money is 2321 01:56:34,679 --> 01:56:36,679 coming out of the assistant Corporation 2322 01:56:36,679 --> 01:56:38,040 Council 2323 01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:39,719 line 2324 01:56:39,719 --> 01:56:42,840 he's CU he's going to 2325 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:44,440 well 2326 01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,440 the HR adult with this the money is 2327 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:48,840 coming out of that line but that's not 2328 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:49,840 his 2329 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,000 title because he's not a lawyer yet yet 2330 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,079 but yeah so there is another full-time 2331 01:56:55,079 --> 01:56:57,599 person that or another person that will 2332 01:56:57,599 --> 01:56:59,719 be a lawyer full-time and will learn 2333 01:56:59,719 --> 01:57:01,280 from all of 2334 01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,199 us so just want to make sure I 2335 01:57:04,199 --> 01:57:05,320 understand this so there's a person 2336 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:06,599 that's working 2337 01:57:06,599 --> 01:57:08,760 full-time um they're not they haven't 2338 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,119 passed a Baro and then their their money 2339 01:57:12,119 --> 01:57:14,239 is coming out of one of the assistant 2340 01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:16,320 Corporation Council part 2341 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,679 timelines uh no money there's a 2342 01:57:18,679 --> 01:57:20,880 full-time there's two full-time 2343 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,679 assistant lines I think 2344 01:57:22,679 --> 01:57:24,280 so the money is coming out of one of 2345 01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:27,320 those lines but that's not his title 2346 01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:28,639 under civil service because he not 2347 01:57:28,639 --> 01:57:32,280 licensed yet but yeah so he's going to 2348 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,520 have that line that you have in the Arca 2349 01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:39,280 there's a blue line fulltime person so 2350 01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,679 um we do have a full another person that 2351 01:57:41,679 --> 01:57:45,000 will be full-time uh well him he's not 2352 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,320 licensed but uh if you're concerned 2353 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:49,840 adding to the prium would be very 2354 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:54,430 helpful 2355 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,950 thank 2356 01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,960 you I was concerned that there you were 2357 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,199 the only full-time person there so this 2358 01:58:03,199 --> 01:58:15,310 kind of um clarifies that thank 2359 01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,239 you any other question on this on the 2360 01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:23,460 vacancies on the vacancies 2361 01:58:23,470 --> 01:58:25,280 [Music] 2362 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,079 the other one we can touch on is the is 2363 01:58:28,079 --> 01:58:29,070 a letter from 2364 01:58:29,070 --> 01:58:31,760 [Music] 2365 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,000 the with regards to the information I 2366 01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:42,270 was 2367 01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,280 asked he's very specific 2368 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:48,950 um with this 2369 01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:59,180 um with his information here 2370 01:58:59,190 --> 01:59:04,750 [Music] 2371 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:07,280 yeah so I did and they take away from 2372 01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,239 this is that they looking to use this 2373 01:59:09,239 --> 01:59:13,239 money to um to purchase 2374 01:59:13,239 --> 01:59:18,990 equipment at some point in 2375 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,719 time go ahead please so um I did ask 2376 01:59:21,719 --> 01:59:23,800 that question question regarding the 2377 01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,599 asset for furance so they have like over 2378 01:59:26,599 --> 01:59:27,760 about 2379 01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,840 $228,000 in there and they also they 2380 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,480 list a number of things that they say 2381 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:33,840 they can use it for and one of those 2382 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,760 things is overtime satday so if they're 2383 01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,119 concerned about the overtime we 2384 01:59:38,119 --> 01:59:40,000 definitely don't want to reduce it but 2385 01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,800 there is funding that is here that I um 2386 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,480 feel like we could if 2387 01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,599 we're if we need to be able to um put 2388 01:59:48,599 --> 01:59:49,880 some money towards that line there's 2389 01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,440 just these assets that are there and I'm 2390 01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:53,960 not sure according the time over which 2391 01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,159 theyve collected them but according to 2392 01:59:56,159 --> 01:59:58,280 this email that we got on February 2393 01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:03,270 excuse me October 11th they do have 2394 02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:08,119 $228,000 we we also have to be this I 2395 02:00:08,119 --> 02:00:09,800 think the numers they had about 2396 02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:13,119 $69,000 in the account for a long time 2397 02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:16,079 and then in the last 6 months or 2398 02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:19,400 so this balance of money has come in and 2399 02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,800 there from 2014 2400 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:24,320 13 2401 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:25,840 133 2402 02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:29,119 cases yes so the logic by which some of 2403 02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:31,199 this money is disseminated from the 2404 02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:33,599 federal government escapes 2405 02:00:33,599 --> 02:00:35,520 me 2406 02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:39,079 uh this the lower number they've gotten 2407 02:00:39,079 --> 02:00:42,880 some bigger checks in from older 2408 02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,639 cases I I understand all that it's just 2409 02:00:45,639 --> 02:00:47,320 that right now we're looking money 2410 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,199 wherever we can get it and so if there's 2411 02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:51,079 money that can be allocated to overtime 2412 02:00:51,079 --> 02:00:54,400 to late some of the the amount of money 2413 02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:56,679 on that line and not saying take all of 2414 02:00:56,679 --> 02:01:00,079 it but I think they'll certainly I'm 2415 02:01:00,079 --> 02:01:03,360 being told for overtime is without 2416 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:06,320 referencing specific numbers if we 2417 02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,639 budget a million dollar a year for 2418 02:01:09,639 --> 02:01:12,360 overtime give would take a little bit 2419 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,320 you can't then all of a sudden say 2420 02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,239 you're only going to budget 2421 02:01:16,239 --> 02:01:18,480 $750,000 for overtime and then use a 2422 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:22,440 quar million of this money you you could 2423 02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,840 take where average has been a million 2424 02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,159 dollar and then move it up to 1.2 2425 02:01:28,159 --> 02:01:31,719 million but you can't create a scenario 2426 02:01:31,719 --> 02:01:34,599 where you're supplanting and replacing 2427 02:01:34,599 --> 02:01:37,639 existing budgeted money it's supposed to 2428 02:01:37,639 --> 02:01:40,960 be done for enhancement or 2429 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,639 additional public safety features with 2430 02:01:43,639 --> 02:01:46,639 policing so then let me ask this if in 2431 02:01:46,639 --> 02:01:48,880 fact they um they go over on their 2432 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,520 overtime is there an opportunity to use 2433 02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,199 this as opposed to use it from City 2434 02:01:52,199 --> 02:01:54,159 budget or they this cannot be touched in 2435 02:01:54,159 --> 02:01:57,239 any way regarding that if it if you 2436 02:01:57,239 --> 02:02:00,480 budgeted a million dollars 2437 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,560 and we go 2438 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,440 over then there would be scenarios where 2439 02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,239 it possibly could be 2440 02:02:07,239 --> 02:02:11,079 used it's uh the 2441 02:02:11,079 --> 02:02:14,159 uh two fires we 2442 02:02:14,159 --> 02:02:18,199 had uh on the same day happened like the 2443 02:02:18,199 --> 02:02:20,000 worst possible Day from a budget 2444 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,079 perspective 2445 02:02:22,079 --> 02:02:24,119 that was the actual Columbus Day for the 2446 02:02:24,119 --> 02:02:27,560 fire department so everything was double 2447 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,440 time and a 2448 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:31,880 half 2449 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:34,560 again that was not everybody was called 2450 02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:36,960 in everybody did a great job doing it 2451 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,960 but from budgeting perspective I would 2452 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:48,589 have prefer it be a day before a day 2453 02:02:48,599 --> 02:02:52,440 after cuz we generally go over on over 2454 02:02:52,440 --> 02:03:00,709 on the over time 2455 02:03:00,719 --> 02:03:03,280 budget there should be less pressure on 2456 02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,800 it going into 25 because our staffing 2457 02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,440 has come up where 2458 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,920 before some of it was 2459 02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:15,199 to CU the numbers were 2460 02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:18,280 down we were back filling Frontline 2461 02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:21,079 positions at time and a half where now 2462 02:03:21,079 --> 02:03:22,800 we'll be able to fill those front line 2463 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,280 positions with regular staff and there 2464 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:29,440 still will be 247 2465 02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:33,280 operation need for overtime but I'm 2466 02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:34,760 hopeful that there'll 2467 02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,719 be uh less pressure on that going in 25 2468 02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:40,400 so is the overtime budget larger this 2469 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,840 year than last year depends on which 2470 02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,800 Ling at it's because there's P time 2471 02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:48,400 there's investigative time there's 2472 02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,040 Patrol I I think have and I'm glad you 2473 02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:53,320 brought that up different um different 2474 02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,960 lines because I noticed in the 2475 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,159 administrative line they've only used 2476 02:03:57,159 --> 02:04:01,360 50% um of the overtime is there like 2477 02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,520 let's say they don't need all their they 2478 02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,679 only get to 65% for the end of the year 2479 02:04:06,679 --> 02:04:09,079 do is there can we move money out of the 2480 02:04:09,079 --> 02:04:11,960 admin overtime line to other over time 2481 02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:14,920 lines uh I believe Finance does that 2482 02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:16,920 balance it out we do have end of the 2483 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,440 year try to make it 2484 02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:20,440 so all 2485 02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:23,840 the all the lines are zero you know be 2486 02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:28,079 zero uh the AL the budget will be uh not 2487 02:04:28,079 --> 02:04:30,480 at negative 2488 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,520 numbers number 2489 02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,679 zero so the short answer is you would 2490 02:04:34,679 --> 02:04:37,880 move from in investigation or whatre we 2491 02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:40,559 need it for y all right y right thank 2492 02:04:40,559 --> 02:04:53,149 you 2493 02:04:53,159 --> 02:04:56,599 so we're limited of how we use this 2494 02:04:56,599 --> 02:05:00,079 money I mean how we can ask them to use 2495 02:05:00,079 --> 02:05:02,360 f how we can use it how we can ask them 2496 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,440 to use it very 2497 02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,960 limited but can but we can also they 2498 02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:10,079 could buy things could Can the police 2499 02:05:10,079 --> 02:05:12,639 department buy things from this money 2500 02:05:12,639 --> 02:05:15,639 and not charge it to a City 2501 02:05:15,639 --> 02:05:18,760 Line if it is above and beyond what 2502 02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:21,960 we've budgeted for okay has to be above 2503 02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:24,149 and 2504 02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:29,149 beyond okay thank 2505 02:05:29,159 --> 02:05:32,480 you go ahe so is it farfetch the thing 2506 02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,360 since they proposed a budget for the 2507 02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,559 community out reach of $5,000 that we 2508 02:05:38,559 --> 02:05:41,520 add $20,000 from this from the 2509 02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,800 perspective of other prevention and 2510 02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,760 awareness programs is there a component 2511 02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,520 that we could use to capture for 2512 02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:48,679 community 2513 02:05:48,679 --> 02:05:52,000 outreach uh that would be a creative use 2514 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,440 that would probably be 2515 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:56,360 applicable yeah it can be used for 2516 02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,719 caining an education it's hard because 2517 02:05:59,719 --> 02:06:04,030 we budgeted the larger number prior 2518 02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:07,440 years we dro 2519 02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:12,070 the it helped us damn it doesn't help 2520 02:06:12,070 --> 02:06:22,510 [Music] 2521 02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:25,920 the P they have mentioned um you know to 2522 02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:27,880 us that 're looking towards maybe 2523 02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,760 possible spend this money to equipment 2524 02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:33,320 to buy equipment clean house department 2525 02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:40,400 so that's a that's a uh for um use to 2526 02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,199 buy equipment that is not in the capital 2527 02:06:43,199 --> 02:06:44,920 that we already funded for but something 2528 02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:48,199 outside of that enhance the department 2529 02:06:48,199 --> 02:06:50,480 capability practical side of is they're 2530 02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,599 looking to buy it a c cap which is a 2531 02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:55,190 heavily armored vehicle 2532 02:06:55,190 --> 02:06:57,920 [Music] 2533 02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:01,719 to deal with OST situation we have to 2534 02:07:01,719 --> 02:07:06,000 breach uh security facility uh I have 2535 02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:07,800 not signed off on 2536 02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:11,400 that yeah that sounds 2537 02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:16,520 intense we do use it on a periodic basis 2538 02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,800 we have relationships with other 2539 02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,599 agencies that have it and so they bring 2540 02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:25,480 those units in here to work with the SC 2541 02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:27,079 Police 2542 02:07:27,079 --> 02:07:32,910 Department let's borrow there as long as 2543 02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:36,679 we all right any other question on this 2544 02:07:36,679 --> 02:07:40,800 yeah see done this 2545 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,800 um well we did talk about the loss 2546 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,800 Revenue everybody has a cop of this 2547 02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:47,559 think is straight 2548 02:07:47,559 --> 02:07:50,119 forward um this report that Anthony 2549 02:07:50,119 --> 02:07:52,920 provided to us with the detail 2550 02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,280 brief unless you have any question I 2551 02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,280 just this done but I think this straight 2552 02:07:58,280 --> 02:08:01,679 forward went details every 2553 02:08:01,679 --> 02:08:05,350 department and the 2554 02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:09,400 impact and then we did have the U also 2555 02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:11,599 the the 2556 02:08:11,599 --> 02:08:14,520 funds the outline of the the funds on 2557 02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:16,639 the draw down from each of the the funds 2558 02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:20,109 this report 2559 02:08:20,119 --> 02:08:29,510 here um 2560 02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,880 someone had asked for the 2561 02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:34,400 um 2562 02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,480 the races from the Department not races 2563 02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,679 but they ask from the Department the 2564 02:08:39,679 --> 02:08:44,840 management this was the report carries I provide you an updated one just now 2565 02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,800 yeah we just got that so this is a 2566 02:08:46,800 --> 02:09:00,069 report here someone that ask um it's off 2567 02:09:00,079 --> 02:09:01,760 oh 2568 02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:05,520 yeah yeah there were some that we I had 2569 02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:08,280 asked you know previous budget we avoid 2570 02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:10,920 mentioning names and not attaching this 2571 02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:31,430 deal with the title 2572 02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:35,410 any question on 2573 02:09:35,420 --> 02:09:47,870 [Music] 2574 02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:50,639 that so I do have a question go ahead 2575 02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:51,840 are we considering 2576 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,760 there's uh 2577 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:57,199 several requests for um 2578 02:09:57,199 --> 02:10:02,119 increases I only see that one was 2579 02:10:02,119 --> 02:10:03,639 actually 2580 02:10:03,639 --> 02:10:06,960 um considered and add to the budget so 2581 02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:13,470 we looking at any of the 2582 02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,679 others can you high with to the 2583 02:10:16,679 --> 02:10:20,400 bud I see everyone everyone of them has 2584 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:21,880 Delta 2585 02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:30,750 yep the Deputy Commissioner 2586 02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,199 finance and there's others that add were 2587 02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:55,470 added and I didn't see know that 2588 02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:56,760 yeah what was the highest increase we 2589 02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:58,520 had this year 2590 02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:01,719 4.25 some some 2591 02:11:01,719 --> 02:11:03,540 level was it four or 2592 02:11:03,540 --> 02:11:06,750 [Music] 2593 02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:14,270 four last year yes when fact this year 2594 02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:17,199 forward and across the board there is a 2595 02:11:17,199 --> 02:11:23,589 3% P for management correct 2596 02:11:23,599 --> 02:11:25,559 any question on 2597 02:11:25,559 --> 02:11:28,000 this that's my question and the first 2598 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:31,760 one the first um version of this that we 2599 02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:35,760 got um the request for that position was 2600 02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:38,440 110 the updated version that you gave us 2601 02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,840 was 2602 02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,800 120 was those are supplemental sheets 2603 02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,360 what's in the actual 2604 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:53,120 budget so 2605 02:11:53,130 --> 02:11:56,000 [Music] 2606 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,920 yeah I I brought it up to Anthony and it 2607 02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,000 was shouldn't it shouldn't be there and 2608 02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:04,199 that was a correction I made that's I 2609 02:12:04,199 --> 02:12:06,440 requested an updated copy and that's why 2610 02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:09,040 I brought this back to the 2611 02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:11,880 council that column should not have been 2612 02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:13,719 there that was a calculation they were 2613 02:12:13,719 --> 02:12:16,639 doing and some other stuff I'm sorry 2614 02:12:16,639 --> 02:12:18,800 I've lost you a little bit um on this 2615 02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,639 sheet here we replacing this sheet with 2616 02:12:20,639 --> 02:12:22,920 the previous she so I ask that you just 2617 02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:24,920 continue looking at that sheet there 2618 02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:26,679 were some columns and some cells that 2619 02:12:26,679 --> 02:12:28,320 should not have been there it was more 2620 02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:30,840 of a useful culation squ supposed to 2621 02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,239 take it out but but are these um these 2622 02:12:33,239 --> 02:12:35,280 salaries are not necessarily in this 2623 02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:38,480 budget yes they are yeah they are the 3% 2624 02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:40,000 yeah the 3% is 2625 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,719 it what do you see on this she the 3% 2626 02:12:42,719 --> 02:12:44,159 cost what do you see on this she here 2627 02:12:44,159 --> 02:12:46,880 it's in the budget the previous sheet 2628 02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,639 was a working document that some column 2629 02:12:49,639 --> 02:12:53,549 was not um 2630 02:12:53,559 --> 02:12:55,679 problem should have been hidden or 2631 02:12:55,679 --> 02:12:58,599 adjustment taken out it was working um 2632 02:12:58,599 --> 02:12:59,960 it was working 2633 02:12:59,960 --> 02:13:03,239 document so the 3% additional is in the 2634 02:13:03,239 --> 02:13:06,280 budget y yeah except that middle col Yes 2635 02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,239 except for this deputy corre and that 2636 02:13:09,239 --> 02:13:11,280 one is the 2637 02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,320 request no the deput is in in the budget 2638 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,679 that's the request yes not the 2639 02:13:17,679 --> 02:13:20,840 3% yes everybody else is the 3% corre so 2640 02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:21,920 what do you see that the number you 2641 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:28,470 seeing here it's on the about M I say 2642 02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,280 yes any question on 2643 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,440 this my question is why we're not 2644 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,480 considering other um other departments 2645 02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:40,159 heads who would requested that and 2646 02:13:40,159 --> 02:13:44,079 what's the rationale for that um that we 2647 02:13:44,079 --> 02:13:49,109 considered one ask and not any of the 2648 02:13:49,119 --> 02:13:51,960 others we heard from you know we heard 2649 02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:54,400 from the um I don't think the building 2650 02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:56,040 officer mentioned excuse me I don't 2651 02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:58,159 think the um building inspector actually 2652 02:13:58,159 --> 02:14:00,920 mentioned anything to us about his ask 2653 02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:03,880 but we did hear from the director of 2654 02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,040 development about the ask for herself 2655 02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:09,400 and for a member of her 2656 02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:12,800 staff principal plan the principal plan 2657 02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:22,490 thank you 2658 02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:26,629 [Music] 2659 02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:28,760 oh commissioner is he in there already 2660 02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:31,880 though let see I'm at 133 well that's 2661 02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:35,599 okay 3% okay that's 2662 02:14:35,599 --> 02:14:39,239 Wonderful's got 3% too oh so what are 2663 02:14:39,239 --> 02:14:41,840 you saying you should get some do I mean 2664 02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:45,000 say if you're going raise theirs raise 2665 02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:50,880 my so that's you know we we you know we 2666 02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:56,719 had have uh the the deputy clerk we have a lot we have the city clerk so 2667 02:14:56,719 --> 02:14:59,440 we haven't considered any others in so 2668 02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:02,239 how do we do that think that everyone's 2669 02:15:02,239 --> 02:15:21,310 working hard 2670 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,719 any question go ahead please I said how 2671 02:15:23,719 --> 02:15:27,320 do we consider increasing uh some some 2672 02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:29,239 of the increases that were asked and if 2673 02:15:29,239 --> 02:15:31,880 they're not then what is our reason why 2674 02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:35,880 not I know saying does lots of work is 2675 02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:38,480 probably not the best way to do it but 2676 02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:40,679 if we look at um what the reasonable 2677 02:15:40,679 --> 02:15:42,960 salaries are it say we did and did that 2678 02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,480 happen did we look at the other salaries 2679 02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:48,400 as you said that you did um with this 2680 02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:51,040 position to compete with right position 2681 02:15:51,040 --> 02:16:04,189 in New York 2682 02:16:04,199 --> 02:16:06,679 state these were to ask the question 2683 02:16:06,679 --> 02:16:10,880 that they gave us the mayor was said 3% 2684 02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:13,199 I explain to the mayor why we needed 2685 02:16:13,199 --> 02:16:17,280 hire money for that director uh and that 2686 02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:20,119 was the case was to get a qualified 2687 02:16:20,119 --> 02:16:22,840 person into the position like like you 2688 02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,000 talk about get a good lawyer full time 2689 02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:28,040 you're going need a good find person 2690 02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:30,280 full time and you seen and it's in the 2691 02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:32,479 paper actually was in the paper today 2692 02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:35,760 about what Tom roer and Tom miss the 2693 02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:38,280 city of TR going through trying to find 2694 02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:40,760 commissioner finances or or controllers 2695 02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:47,920 and or Finance people uh because uh you can't find it so that was the reason 2696 02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:52,800 U for that every else got 3% 2697 02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:57,280 I see that y including myself I see that 2698 02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:08,110 yourself 2699 02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:12,040 yes yeah so the qu so the question 2700 02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:16,160 was around so looking at did we do the 2701 02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:17,760 same due diligence for other department 2702 02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:19,840 heads and like and this is New York 2703 02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:25,469 state or the surround so 2704 02:17:25,479 --> 02:17:27,519 like oh yeah I thought it said I thought 2705 02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:30,359 it said New York state in there maybe I 2706 02:17:30,359 --> 02:17:37,790 thought what to 2707 02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:40,719 say question 2708 02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:42,800 becor direct development where she 2709 02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:44,439 brought that department from and all 2710 02:17:44,439 --> 02:17:47,719 those things so um and she she said to 2711 02:17:47,719 --> 02:17:50,399 us I'm going sure the meeting May that 2712 02:17:50,399 --> 02:17:51,800 um I don't believe you were that she 2713 02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:53,800 said that she had spoken with you and 2714 02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:55,960 that you told her that if any request 2715 02:17:55,960 --> 02:17:57,880 she should come to the council 2716 02:17:57,880 --> 02:18:01,599 with she's Mis phrased my word choice 2717 02:18:01,599 --> 02:18:04,240 and that my recommendation for salaries 2718 02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:17,669 is in the 2719 02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:30,509 budget any other question on this 2720 02:18:30,519 --> 02:18:34,070 all right we move 2721 02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:37,960 to there's one this report here a report 2722 02:18:37,960 --> 02:18:41,479 this copy of report may I thank you 2723 02:18:41,479 --> 02:18:44,519 report is very very helpful yes I would 2724 02:18:44,519 --> 02:18:48,519 I you please U send this to us and I 2725 02:18:48,519 --> 02:18:51,240 apologize it's been prepared 2726 02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:56,040 uh been done before it uh went staffing 2727 02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:57,479 issues putting together and it's been 2728 02:18:57,479 --> 02:19:00,359 compared for the last couple months and 2729 02:19:00,359 --> 02:19:02,240 had not been sent to the council so that 2730 02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:05,960 you'll get that now on a monthly basis 2731 02:19:05,960 --> 02:19:08,399 and probably would be a good idea to 2732 02:19:08,399 --> 02:19:11,760 have uh Mr Hamilton and Mr Douglas come 2733 02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:17,200 in and do a summary of what they're 2734 02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,319 doing in terms of data 2735 02:19:19,319 --> 02:19:22,000 collection and 2736 02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:23,679 I try and encourage them every month is 2737 02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:26,760 to expand that so if there's an area 2738 02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:30,439 that the council would like to see some 2739 02:19:30,439 --> 02:19:33,519 analysis done on uh don't hesitate to 2740 02:19:33,519 --> 02:19:37,040 reach out or uh raise your concern or 2741 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,040 ideas 2742 02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:42,399 on yes this report you got a time please 2743 02:19:42,399 --> 02:19:45,439 go it you have not detail report for 2744 02:19:45,439 --> 02:19:47,280 every single department and it shows you 2745 02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:49,680 where they are in terms of the workload 2746 02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:51,840 and the service they proving to the 2747 02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:57,670 residents very 2748 02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:00,080 we another report I know we did talk 2749 02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:03,120 about it I asked for a copy of this it's 2750 02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:06,080 the um it has to do with the STA 2751 02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,319 department and the enforcement they're 2752 02:20:08,319 --> 02:20:11,080 doing um you know I personally would 2753 02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,680 have to commend them I know D and I talk 2754 02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:16,040 about this to the work that they're 2755 02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:18,080 doing in terms of 2756 02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:21,000 um bringing people into compliance STS 2757 02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:24,359 of garbage impr improper storage of 2758 02:20:24,359 --> 02:20:26,439 garbage and to make sure that people not 2759 02:20:26,439 --> 02:20:28,960 stor in garbage and leaving it for days 2760 02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:31,319 out to pick up by our our Poli 2761 02:20:31,319 --> 02:20:33,560 department or also put their garbage can 2762 02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:34,760 in the front of the building and they're 2763 02:20:34,760 --> 02:20:37,840 taking over littering the entire Street 2764 02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:40,560 since this enforcement has been put out 2765 02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:42,520 here for the last couple months I 2766 02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:44,840 personally have seen a change in the 2767 02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:46,880 pattern of 2768 02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:49,880 peopleo also saw that so it's a good 2769 02:20:49,880 --> 02:20:52,479 thing people said well it's about it's 2770 02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:54,560 not a ref driven thing it's about how we 2771 02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:57,120 address Nuance how we address quality of 2772 02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,040 life I think this is one of the report 2773 02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:02,479 of you should have a report to see that 2774 02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:03,960 what these guys are 2775 02:21:03,960 --> 02:21:07,240 doing U from the N Department it's so 2776 02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:11,150 you know I have to come in and for 2777 02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:14,200 that I don't I think I know everybody 2778 02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:18,120 has a copy I did make a copy of it um if 2779 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:19,880 anybody else need a copy I can share it 2780 02:21:19,880 --> 02:21:21,760 but that's 2781 02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:25,070 I just want to address 2782 02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:27,720 that I don't think I'm missing any other 2783 02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:31,120 report um we had to some stuff from um 2784 02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:33,920 unless when I stepped out but the um 2785 02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:36,560 building permit Fe structure just that's 2786 02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:38,500 that part 2787 02:21:38,500 --> 02:21:40,240 [Music] 2788 02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:44,160 um I I TR recomend that we we have to do 2789 02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:45,600 the public hearing is on and then we 2790 02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,319 have to come back in for discussion so 2791 02:21:48,319 --> 02:21:49,840 that will address at that point in time 2792 02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,200 when we the public hearing is the next 2793 02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:53,920 cycle 2794 02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:57,920 26 25th 28 28th yes and then we'll 2795 02:21:57,920 --> 02:22:00,800 address it after 2796 02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:03,800 that yeah other than that I don't have 2797 02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:05,880 any other report unless you have 2798 02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:09,080 anything else I'm missing any report we 2799 02:22:09,080 --> 02:22:10,520 have the the actuals which is 2800 02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:12,680 straightforward go through that 2801 02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:16,200 every and the answer 2802 02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:24,070 questions I don't have anything else 2803 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:26,680 wage fees was the only amendment yeah 2804 02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:28,120 those were those going to address so 2805 02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:30,720 that's notd for but I just shared our 2806 02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:33,680 copy because it was during that time oh 2807 02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:35,640 we had the um aging of accounts 2808 02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:38,040 receivable as 2809 02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:41,960 well this one did I print it 2810 02:22:41,960 --> 02:22:45,000 out I think Tony gave it to 2811 02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:48,600 us aging aging of accounts receivable 2812 02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:50,240 and then I wrote police oh yeah because 2813 02:22:50,240 --> 02:23:00,870 it's um the value of penalties the total 2814 02:23:00,880 --> 02:23:03,560 paid we talked about it we talked about 2815 02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:09,670 it because when when AC Whipple was here 2816 02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:12,319 ENT um 2817 02:23:12,319 --> 02:23:14,840 violation yeah we did talk about this so 2818 02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:16,240 they kind of give us this report to show 2819 02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:20,000 us U where to break down yes so we did great if we could collect all 2820 02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,640 that money is basically that would be 2821 02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:25,680 like fantastic I mean it is something 2822 02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:27,279 that we we can ask them for an update in 2823 02:23:27,279 --> 02:23:28,600 the next three months to see how we 2824 02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:33,399 doing with the agency and collect the 2825 02:23:33,399 --> 02:23:35,600 outstanding those 2826 02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:40,240 outstanding it will be very helpful INE 2827 02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:43,120 our I don't have any other reports 2828 02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:44,800 anything else that you have in your 2829 02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:46,479 folder that we didn't address can 2830 02:23:46,479 --> 02:23:50,120 address it and then we um have anything 2831 02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:51,720 El we need to 2832 02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:54,120 address and then we'll we'll call for an 2833 02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:58,790 executive session so for some 2834 02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,670 points any other 2835 02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:04,880 business we need call on motion to go 2836 02:24:04,880 --> 02:24:09,960 into executive session so move all in 2837 02:24:09,960 --> 02:24:22,520 favor take a break take off the and 2838 02:24:22,530 --> 02:24:34,600 [Music] 2839 02:24:34,600 --> 02:25:19,309 just 2840 02:25:19,319 --> 02:27:19,150 for for 2841 02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:49,110 e 2842 02:27:49,120 --> 02:31:18,910 for for 2843 02:31:18,920 --> 02:31:48,830 e 2844 02:31:48,840 --> 02:36:18,550 for e 2845 02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:48,510 for 2846 02:36:48,520 --> 02:43:48,030 e 2847 02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:58,600 for for 2848 02:43:58,610 --> 02:44:48,030 [Music] 2849 02:44:48,040 --> 02:45:17,950 is 2850 02:45:17,960 --> 02:46:47,830 e e 2851 02:46:47,840 --> 02:48:17,710 for 2852 02:48:17,720 --> 03:30:44,910 e e 2853 03:30:44,920 --> 03:31:14,910 for 2854 03:31:14,920 --> 03:31:44,830 e 2855 03:31:44,840 --> 03:32:14,830 for 2856 03:32:14,840 --> 03:35:14,630 e 2857 03:35:14,640 --> 03:35:44,630 for 2858 03:35:44,640 --> 03:42:14,149 e 2859 03:42:14,159 --> 03:42:44,110 for 2860 03:42:44,120 --> 04:14:42,030 e 2861 04:14:42,040 --> 04:15:11,950 for 2862 04:15:11,960 --> 04:36:44,561 e e