1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 my brother Vince had his knee done yeah 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,840 I got my knee done GE got to get his hip 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,960 done oh his hip yeah they say that's 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,840 pretty easy to cover yeah I know you 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,120 know saying that's they that kitchen 6 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:15,040 killed us oh absolutely you know my 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,600 brother worked for gold since 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:24,550 1977 cleaning it 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,279 cut seat Center 10 00:00:28,279 --> 00:00:31,380 here 30 11 00:00:31,380 --> 00:00:44,560 [Music] 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,090 [Applause] 13 00:00:46,090 --> 00:00:54,910 [Music] 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,719 yeah you're doing really well my brother 15 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:00,869 I 16 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:06,830 tonight T absolutely away my brother 17 00:01:06,830 --> 00:01:09,799 [Applause] 18 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:12,680 they we having a good time let's invite 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,190 them yeah what's what 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 today let's make it a short one today 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,360 take tomorrow take 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,910 tomorrow 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,200 I a short one today right your out there 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,360 F than that I don't have one of 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,159 those yeah we can make a shark max know 26 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:39,040 Max is coming in millions of dollars 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:47,350 thank you Max appreciate that got 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:02:26,190 [Music] 29 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,239 I'd like to call the conect city council 30 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:32,599 committee meeting for thday October 31 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:36,080 17th 17th more than half the month is on 32 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,280 we have one committee tonight turn toiss 33 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,840 for finance thank you madam president I 34 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,680 would like to call the finance committee 35 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,480 to ARA and we have a couple items held 36 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,000 over from today we have some new 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 um questions and 38 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,280 answers from 39 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,239 today and the first item we going into 40 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:01,120 is the ARA discussion question follow up 41 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 from um 42 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,640 yesterday they were some questions from 43 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:11,440 yesterday and we ask Miss Cara to be 44 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,159 here to help us navigate those uh those 45 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:16,670 questions 46 00:03:16,670 --> 00:03:23,850 [Music] 47 00:03:23,850 --> 00:03:30,830 [Applause] 48 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,920 so if we can first go to our um our ARA 49 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,230 allocation um 50 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:56,429 [Music] 51 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:58,879 sheets course sorry to put you on the sh 52 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:02,319 notice um you were hoping to get you 53 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:04,400 next Monday or CLE but you're going be 54 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,879 off so we have to 55 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,159 utilize the small amount of information 56 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:11,599 you may have for for us okay I'm ready 57 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,519 for you I'm ready there's no pressure 58 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:14,640 there no pressure If you don't have the 59 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,880 information you can always email it to 60 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,239 us 61 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:21,479 okay um the take away from yesterday is 62 00:04:21,479 --> 00:04:22,520 that 63 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 um I know you and your your department 64 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,639 is aggressively going um 65 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:30,800 on so Poli these contract out to the 66 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,199 relevant agencies who was awarded on the 67 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,680 alpha funding there are some agency that 68 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,400 is still U you're working with them they 69 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 are still they're still trying to get 70 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,639 the documents in place and also try to 71 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:46,800 leverage the other funding from the 72 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,400 other agencies so there are a couple 73 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,080 agencies here that um we would like you 74 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 to kind of tell us if you have the 75 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,680 information as to where they are in 76 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,120 terms of the 77 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:07,710 their portion of the work and okay 78 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,639 and that would be the first one um 79 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:14,039 Habitat for Humanity Habitat for 80 00:05:14,039 --> 00:05:16,919 Humanity 500,000 is allocated to the 81 00:05:16,919 --> 00:05:20,360 ranking house um their project is due to 82 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,960 start March of 2025 for that house so 83 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,319 they have all of the other funding but 84 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:27,919 it's not going to be done be ready to 85 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:30,280 take so March here they have all the 86 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:33,000 fundings yes and you have all the 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,080 documentation regards to that yes so in 88 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,960 terms of signing a contract with them 89 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,560 they're already in contract we only have 90 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,039 one organization that is not in 91 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:46,199 contract which has been reported um to 92 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:47,960 the city council so we just have one 93 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,919 which is 94 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:54,080 Dory in Dory Foundation is the only subp 95 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,520 that is not a 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,070 contract what about BC and handon 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,280 like the $500,000 for bcn they are on 98 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,319 contract there was some issues with the 99 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:10,639 title on a city owned property not clean 100 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:12,800 title um but that do have a question 101 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,120 mark if they are going to be they had 102 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,000 some hiccups with some of their leverage 103 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,080 funding that they were going to use for 104 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,240 that entire 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,919 project these hicups will affect the 106 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:30,189 funding from our end 107 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:32,160 if you don't have the answer yeah I 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,639 don't have the answer on that I will say 109 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:37,400 that we asked for a spending plan from 110 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,280 bcni um I should have that by the 23rd 111 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,960 deadline is next week so I should have 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,360 that from dcni on their plans on how 113 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,880 they're going to spend this money down 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,720 by the 115 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,080 deadline I'm talking about bcni what 116 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,720 about the the $1 million the $1 million 117 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,479 myself as a department of development I 118 00:06:54,479 --> 00:06:56,120 do have concerns with being able to 119 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,599 spend that down um in the time manner 120 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:01,039 because they do have other funding for 121 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:03,759 owner occupy reand from our 122 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:07,800 cdbg so that is$ million right now 123 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,430 they've only spent 124 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 down 125 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,919 $3,000 yes would be able to share those 126 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:20,110 from email to us 127 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,599 sure and the next one I think is the 128 00:07:22,599 --> 00:07:25,360 Hamilton hill art 129 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,720 centor again we have requested the 130 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,000 spending plan for the Hamil Center they 131 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,680 don't have site yet so that is a concern 132 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,160 for the Department of development they 133 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,749 have not secured a site for this 134 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:41,879 project so all in all there bcni $1 135 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:47,080 million and the Hamilton Art Center 1 $2 136 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,159 million yes is of concerns yes and we 137 00:07:51,159 --> 00:07:52,879 you have contracts for have that 138 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,520 $500,000 bcni 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,800 500,000 and $1 140 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,280 million yes they are 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 contract am I missing any other um 142 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,160 agencies please 143 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:21,990 [Music] 144 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,080 help where's 145 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,280 second the YW so 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,840 the Y 147 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,120 in Washington so they've spent 106 148 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 already of the 364 so what are their 149 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,320 plans we ask for a spending plan for 150 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,440 them to their project they are still for 151 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,240 their Harbor House project they did come 152 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,039 to city council and ask for some of 153 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:44,959 those for the capital project to be 154 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,080 moved to the Harper house which was 155 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 approved by resolution but there are 156 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,320 funding um issues they're still lining 157 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,120 up all their funding to move forward 158 00:08:53,120 --> 00:09:00,389 with the har 159 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,000 what's the latest with the Electric City 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Food Coop they went into contract just 161 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,040 two and a half weeks ago so they we 162 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,600 received only pre-contractual documents 163 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,279 and they are in contract and prepared to 164 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:13,920 start spending down as soon as possible 165 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:29,330 as well 166 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:30,600 [Music] 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,279 did you already talk about Carver before 168 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:35,200 I came into the room the Carver no no no 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,750 anything on offer 170 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:52,350 please so Carver is not in contract 171 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 okay into the budget was came out of us 172 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,480 we resend it essentially their funds 173 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,860 were put back into the budget so 174 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:07,269 [Music] 175 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:10,600 go Ahad so am I correcting U these 176 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,320 monies just have to be allocated by 177 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,519 December 31st but spent by December 31st 178 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:20,670 of 179 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:23,200 20252 a construction project they needed 180 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,000 to have sight they needed to have sight 181 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,480 by the end of this year 182 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,079 construction we cannot make 183 00:10:33,079 --> 00:10:35,720 changes 184 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,279 in5 that is not clear Trey guidelines 185 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:42,040 are I believe the city the municipality 186 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,470 has some 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,839 flexibility it's not just allocated the 188 00:10:48,839 --> 00:10:50,120 council can allocate something we have 189 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,079 to be under 190 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:55,800 contract with it by the December 31st is 191 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,839 that 192 00:10:56,839 --> 00:11:00,320 correct that's 193 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,959 but also is that like she said if you're 194 00:11:03,959 --> 00:11:06,720 construction you got to have S command 195 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,360 you got to have like that um we we can't 196 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 go under contract if so he doesn't 197 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,839 have correct as part of the 198 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:21,629 pre-contractual documents that are 199 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,600 required so who the that effect on this 200 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,440 list she just BC right 201 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,880 everybody they're all in contract just D 202 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,200 is not in contract and they're not 203 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,720 construction so they're working on 204 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,440 getting they have about 85% of the pre 205 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,040 contractual documents we're just waiting 206 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 on a few items there what the lower 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,389 policy you know minor 208 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:49,440 things did you say b a million dollars 209 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,920 was a concern just if they're going to 210 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,480 be able to spend a million in the time 211 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,399 frame that is allowed for ARA is a 212 00:11:57,399 --> 00:12:00,120 concern because they also have other 213 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 we've allocated other funding to them 214 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,920 and they're slow with spending it down 215 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,150 which is why we act for spending 216 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,399 plan and so far Hilton Art Center is the 217 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:15,480 one that does not 218 00:12:15,490 --> 00:12:17,480 [Music] 219 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 have is that the infill development 220 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,680 project or the 1 million to bcni oh 221 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:28,920 that's that was I was going to ask what what was the second bcni project 222 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,310 okay gotcha it's 223 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,320 [Music] 224 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,760 right have that 225 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:45,509 sheet oh sorry I missed the sheet 226 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,740 sorry focused on the other 227 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:50,880 [Music] 228 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,880 sheets go ahead please Carver is there a 229 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,079 deadline for when you requested to have 230 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,560 those spin back just we can still action 231 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,519 oober 232 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:02,680 I'm sorry October October 233 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:06,000 23rd to have all the documents in to 234 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,040 have a spending plan so that I'll be 235 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,000 able to present that to Finance on where 236 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,880 they are when spending down the money 237 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 not to have all documents Mr 238 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,880 [Music] 239 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,480 M we we have all of the documents if 240 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,079 they're in contract we've collected 241 00:13:21,079 --> 00:13:23,000 everything that they needed according to 242 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,199 what we set forth for the 243 00:13:24,199 --> 00:13:26,760 pre-contractual requirements so we have 244 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,320 those documents on F 245 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,710 go ahead please um gr Park we only spend 246 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,630 18,000 247 00:13:38,630 --> 00:13:40,760 [Music] 248 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 correct that is correct and the park 249 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,959 allocation on councilwoman is more 250 00:13:45,959 --> 00:13:47,480 engineering has 251 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,639 been 252 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:52,040 for City 253 00:13:52,040 --> 00:14:00,310 [Music] 254 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,240 and we do have a couple of organizations 255 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,360 that are slow spending but they are 256 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 aware that they are slow and the team is 257 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,440 constantly reminding of the deadline and 258 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,590 they need to spend it down for the most 259 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,199 part our our our deadline to possibly 260 00:14:20,199 --> 00:14:24,480 Rec coup those funds is sooner than AR 261 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,279 deadline right we're communica to them 262 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:28,160 that if by this date you don't have that 263 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,800 or maybe not by a spefic specific dat 264 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 but if things AR moving in in 265 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,800 a at a good Pace then there you know we 266 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,320 might have to recuit those funds I I've 267 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,600 sent down notification saying that you 268 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,720 know for example to be cni that the 269 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 funds are at risk 270 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,759 captured so would it will not be a 271 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:49,880 surprise but I use that as leverage to 272 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,269 get the spending plan sure from the 273 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:57,800 organizations go ahead please and I I 274 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,480 the this came up the other night at our 275 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,720 meeting um you actually asked for 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,880 reports on a regular basis from the 277 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,720 folks right yes that's what I thought 278 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,440 yes we're the team is working what I 279 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,519 sent an email out to say that we just 280 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:12,759 Clos out the fiscal year so reports were 281 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:14,320 due to the Department of development on 282 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,160 the 15th so we have a couple of 283 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,480 stragglers so versus sending numerous 284 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,199 emails with the report we're just kind 285 00:15:20,199 --> 00:15:22,079 of waiting for the stragglers to submit 286 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:24,279 so I can send you that final report for 287 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:26,680 the fiscal year versus every single 288 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,680 quarter for every single sub because the 289 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,480 report is cumulative so when you look at 290 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,160 the last report for the year you're 291 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,800 going to be able to see everything that 292 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,600 they spent their accomplishments the 293 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,160 demographics that they Ser with the 294 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 funding and they list out the challenges 295 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,560 that they may have experienced spending 296 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:55,550 down the 297 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:05,870 funding are there any other question 298 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,959 please I guess just because I've never 299 00:16:07,959 --> 00:16:10,639 been a part of this scenario but should 300 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:13,120 we recoup funds after we theoretically 301 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,720 already passed the budget how does that 302 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,629 process proceed 303 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:21,880 wel can I ask a question what time frame 304 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,959 if the spending plan date that I've 305 00:16:23,959 --> 00:16:26,920 given of October 23rd does that work to 306 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,600 give the information so that then you 307 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 can make a decision based on a plan that 308 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,110 the sub 309 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,199 provide at this 310 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:39,880 point it's what we 311 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,480 have that's a good question well I think 312 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,880 that you were mentioning that you were 313 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,000 hoping that we were actually going to 314 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,720 finish our work this week yeah and so we 315 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,639 kind of 316 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,639 need cross well no I mean I think that 317 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:54,920 um that was what I Mr mudar has said 318 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,440 that a few times but um I'm certainly 319 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,600 hoping that we're going to finish our 320 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,480 work by November 1st this year but um it 321 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,160 seems to have been going smoothly enough 322 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,520 that I was kind of hoping that we might 323 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 be able I was on the same page as Mr bu 324 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,679 and hoping that we could try to do it 325 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:11,360 this week but I 326 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,439 was 327 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:15,959 what these are these a good a good 328 00:17:15,959 --> 00:17:19,039 question that you ask but I my 329 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:20,720 understanding was that the the AR 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,160 wouldn't necessarily be for this budget 331 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,679 if anything brought back would just be 332 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:26,240 used in house because now it exists here 333 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,559 and I think we probably have enough 334 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:30,200 projects to be able to spend it on so my 335 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,640 understanding was not we were trying to 336 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,640 get it to do anything with this budget 337 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,960 but that we would be able to have it in 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,559 our you know because if the city has in 339 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,320 you know in our fund then we still have 340 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,240 two years spending on projects that was 341 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,880 my understanding that we this wasn't 342 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,400 necessarily to balance this budget 343 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,140 because this well this budget's already 344 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:51,080 [Music] 345 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,799 balanced correct that would be my 346 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:55,320 position 347 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,990 also in some of those 348 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,240 you know their organizations have good 349 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,840 intent and it may be that uh I'll use 350 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,080 bcni or habitat hypothetically without 351 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,520 referencing them specifically they have 352 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,760 mapped 353 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,919 out broader 354 00:18:16,919 --> 00:18:20,799 scenarios it might be that habitat can't 355 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:23,360 do all the houses or bcni so they might 356 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:28,200 be able to do one or two so it might be 357 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,520 submitted to councils not take all the 358 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,799 money back but take a portion back that 359 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:34,880 they're not going to be able to use and 360 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,360 then to look for some other criteria 361 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:41,640 ccil president's pointed out that would 362 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,200 uh be a project within the city that we 363 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,679 could do meeting the criteria 364 00:18:46,679 --> 00:18:51,070 implemented within the 365 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,880 timeline be also sorry bear in mind also 366 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,360 we do fund these agency through cdbg so 367 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,799 it's not like a loss they always can 368 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:00,799 funding is all always there for them to 369 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,840 tap into regardless of ARA is going to 370 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,720 be available through 371 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,799 cdbg just because we use bcni as example 372 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:15,430 I wanted to chime it I think um I 373 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,640 said we we hold some of the 374 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,760 responsibilities or not we didn't go 375 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,919 forth with um closing of those 376 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:24,559 properties the titles weren't clear so 377 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:26,960 that's part of the hold up why they 378 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 couldn't move forward with the project 379 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 as well so I think that should be taken 380 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,200 into consideration we think if we're 381 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,159 going to recapture the part that we 382 00:19:35,159 --> 00:19:38,000 played as a city too because those 383 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 projects were dedicated that money 384 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,440 funding in the resolution is dedicated 385 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 to be used for certain city owned 386 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,070 properties we laid that out in a 387 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,640 resolution I was I was just kind of to 388 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,360 your point around like agencies that 389 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,320 we've been um historically funded I also 390 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,400 what want those agencies to presume that 391 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,400 we would continue to um fund them 392 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,799 because of s we've done it through the 393 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:08,200 community block grant money I think just 394 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,799 one thing that I think is important is 395 00:20:09,799 --> 00:20:13,360 that we look at you know a more continue 396 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,559 to work towards a more Equitable 397 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:17,799 resource allocation plan and I think so 398 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:21,480 sometimes some of those uh agencies that 399 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760 we have funded for historically over a 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,320 period of time can grow almost dependent 401 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,440 on that and that's not really a 402 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,120 sustainable model it's just that they 403 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:40,669 should be made 404 00:20:40,679 --> 00:20:44,120 aware so so really the only four that we 405 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,080 need to I mean the only four that are 406 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,640 part of this 2025 budget 407 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,480 then are well there were there were four 408 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,880 that the finance department recommended 409 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,480 that we take the money back and that is 410 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,600 the Carver the Riverside Park the 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,120 sidewalk program and the Empowerment 412 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,000 Center so really it's wonderful I would 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,559 you know we all wanted to see you here 414 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,720 tonight because we had questions but in 415 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,440 terms of our you know finishing our 416 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,720 budget negotiations um we can we have 417 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,400 time in other words to think about the 418 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520 rest of these ARA projects besides those 419 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,000 four is what I'm hearing if we can't use 420 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,919 this money um except for those four 421 00:21:24,919 --> 00:21:28,279 projects then we can kind of table this 422 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:30,039 correct cor I just wanted to make sure I 423 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:32,320 was understanding you guys saying that's 424 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480 what a thinking thinking is about here 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,440 because um there's certain speculation 426 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,039 but like say for example if we have the 427 00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:42,320 full funding from bcna and sorry to use 428 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,080 the name not nothing against you 429 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,240 BC would they qualify for CBG funding 430 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,279 for this specific project under this $1 431 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:54,520 million or 432 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,799 home funding okay which they get get 433 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:00,039 funding but they never they never the 434 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,240 amount that arpa gave is much larger 435 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400 than you know annual allocation would 436 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 give them to the arpa funding allows 437 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,559 them more cap more funding to do more 438 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:13,520 bigger projects than what they would be 439 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,919 able to do with our annual allocation go 440 00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:18,760 ahead please and and in addition to that 441 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,880 you said that we've played a role in it 442 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,000 them doing that and just we need to 443 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240 think about what bcni does and how they 444 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,039 you know provide affordable housing and 445 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:30,520 all of that so if if if they they hold 446 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,159 up with us and they're still able to 447 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:33,919 complete their project within a couple 448 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:37,799 years um I don't know that to me taking 449 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,480 their money back does not would not 450 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600 benefit them it would benefit residents 451 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159 of the city hous that's a you know 452 00:22:45,159 --> 00:22:47,200 housing crisis is one of the things that 453 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,960 we are facing for people in certain 454 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760 income categories so well I I don't 455 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,400 think you want to take back but if 456 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,520 they're if they're not coming up or 457 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,720 stepping up to par to provide whatever 458 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,440 is needed then we don't want to lose 459 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,000 that funding I mean our well it's not 460 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,760 our fa but we we don't want to be in the 461 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,960 same Bo of losing it by trying to work 462 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,720 with them all the way to the end of 31st 463 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,400 of December and it dropped right there 464 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760 and we lost it that's not what she said 465 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,720 that she I'm just making a statement I 466 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,000 know but I'm just making you know 467 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,120 speaking out loud and we don't want that 468 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,559 to to ever happen I think the infi 469 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:25,960 project will happen the one that I had 470 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,120 the concern was was the million dollars 471 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,720 on occupy rehab funding there was 472 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,679 changes in leadership one there there 473 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:37,039 was some capacity changes and they have 474 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,159 other funding that we've given them that 475 00:23:39,159 --> 00:23:41,120 they haven't spent down yet so that's 476 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,679 why the million is a concern for me 477 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:45,240 because the other funding is still on 478 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,360 the table they're currently right now 479 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:51,440 requesting extensions on cdbg funding so 480 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,320 that's why the 481 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,640 million for the record that's why it's a 482 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,320 concern because we have other funding 483 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,440 that all to them that they have 484 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000 struggled with spinning down yeah and 485 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,400 exactly that's the one I'm talking about 486 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,559 the other $500,000 is pretty much a done 487 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,559 They just got to process all milon it's 488 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,669 a million 489 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:17,039 dollar and go ahead I couldn't uh 490 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,400 remember when I know that um we've given 491 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,799 extensions to the Carver project but I 492 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,000 actually thought that the last extension 493 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840 expired on September 30th but I haven't 494 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520 been able to get answer about that I 495 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,960 don't think that we gave well the Carver 496 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,880 because the co-op came on we never 497 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,120 presented give give them a gave them a 498 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,760 time I thought that we had a contingency 499 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320 on the funding that they had to raise 500 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,799 never we never reallocate the money we we made an amendment they they 501 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:48,799 brought back the property to us can we 502 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:50,840 send the property back to us call up and 503 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,600 quick for yes no car car Community 504 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,990 yes oh the 505 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,679 they never came back to us with their um 506 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:05,120 their plan and then we never moveed 507 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,000 forward to reallocate the money to them 508 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,279 so that money was there in back into 509 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:15,430 our without being realita 510 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,679 to I don't understand what your point is 511 00:25:18,679 --> 00:25:20,960 um I thought that we had a contingency 512 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,440 on that money and I thought that thaty a 513 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919 long time that was that was with 514 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:29,279 car previous organization but not with 515 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,080 the court the previous organizations 516 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,720 didn't meet the criteria so the money 517 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:38,399 came back into the City and the new uh form organization we we never 518 00:25:38,399 --> 00:25:41,720 reallocated that money to them okay so 519 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,200 worry about that so that was sitting 520 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,159 there and the gotcha I am I I understand 521 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:48,360 now I don't know why I thought we 522 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,520 still we had them here and we had 523 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,320 conversations with them and we implied 524 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,880 that that money was available to that 525 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,240 particular group but as they were 526 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,279 supposed to they were supposed to come 527 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,559 back to us they supposed to come back 528 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,080 and provide a list of things that I 529 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,159 don't know how much was ever since but 530 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:08,200 that never just came didn't come back to 531 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,480 the council gotcha and it's very 532 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,760 unfortunate because project that you 533 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,880 know would have been very beneficial but 534 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:28,470 we now we're at this point 535 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,039 I look at the face no I just I think 536 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,960 it's more question and answer yeah yeah 537 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 this is developing into more questions 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600 and answer yeah all right any other 539 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,690 question from 540 00:26:40,690 --> 00:26:42,399 [Music] 541 00:26:42,399 --> 00:26:46,520 Miss see none thank you so much time 542 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480 app you going to email that 543 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,350 um talk to us yes remind 544 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,240 me I'm just 545 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,870 Jing I'm just joking 546 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:15,389 [Music] 547 00:27:15,399 --> 00:27:18,160 I so we have we have some work to do on 548 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,919 [Music] 549 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:21,620 the serious 550 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:23,960 [Music] 551 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,799 work um we had some items from last 552 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,919 evening that we asked for you to BR okay 553 00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:34,159 do you want to go through that and then 554 00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:41,669 I will 555 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:44,640 talk can can you go to your list from 556 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600 yesterday 557 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,360 please what can you go through your list 558 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,679 from yesterday what do you mean 559 00:27:52,679 --> 00:27:56,640 my okay uh yes you ask me to bring 560 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,679 back uh that $10,000 donation was yes 561 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:06,280 sir I got that pass 562 00:28:06,290 --> 00:28:09,919 [Music] 563 00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:13,600 out and what happened was that the 564 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,640 10,000 did come in and it went right 565 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,519 into the code a31 566 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,080 2402b 567 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,000 so so what they did is you can see I try 568 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,600 to dark line it where the where the 569 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,760 credit came in they credited the the 570 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,799 expenditure side of it so uh they really 571 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,840 spent 572 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,399 $133,000 because that what they did is 573 00:28:39,399 --> 00:28:41,799 that by putting the credit into that 574 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:44,080 expenditure account it raised the 575 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 balance by $10 more and the reason why 576 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,799 that the chief wanted to do that is 577 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,159 because he wanted to use that money 578 00:28:51,159 --> 00:28:52,480 directly he didn't want us to put a 579 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,919 revenue and like not increase the budget 580 00:28:54,919 --> 00:28:56,679 you know what I mean so it was for him 581 00:28:56,679 --> 00:28:58,799 his way to like make sure that he got it 582 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:04,430 into that 583 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,919 budget you guys see that yes uh another 584 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:11,760 thing you asked for was the copy of so 585 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840 far what we have for 586 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,760 changes is you guys requested 587 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,080 yes so I have changes on the general 588 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,880 fund revenues and expenses the second 589 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,320 page is uh capital projects changes and 590 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,679 the third is water fund with 591 00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:50,180 the revenue that 592 00:29:50,190 --> 00:30:02,350 [Music] 593 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,000 so you want to talk about those first 594 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,399 the 595 00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:08,279 changes yes go ahead okay so the first 596 00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:10,679 very first one is uh what we did the 597 00:30:10,679 --> 00:30:14,840 very first day was to move $5,000 from 598 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,840 the depy registar into the uh City Court 599 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,480 salary so what we what we're doing we 600 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,720 subtracted the 5,000 from um the deputy 601 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,640 registar salary brought up to 47 ,000 602 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000 added it to the city clerk salary and 603 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,720 she went from 83 to 604 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,640 88 then the S we took that out because 605 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,120 uh that's where we had the stien for 606 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,240 5,000 plus 3,000 so we took the 5,000 607 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,559 out of there we reduced the appropriate 608 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:47,919 fund balance by that 5,000 and so 609 00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,960 there's 3,000 left for the city clerk 610 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000 right the second one is the city City 611 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,039 Senior Center Program uh you ask not to 612 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,559 use the police overtime so what we did 613 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,559 is we increased the senior program by 614 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,639 60,000 and we're reducing the 615 00:31:04,639 --> 00:31:06,559 contingency by the 616 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,720 60,000 so there's no change in the 617 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,840 budget at all uh we had a MOA for 618 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,399 autograde for uh uh one of the record 619 00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:21,360 access courts in in law depart for csca 620 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080 uh that the sea demanded that we put in 621 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,840 the budget and so until until there's 622 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,679 actual actual U negotiations complete 623 00:31:32,679 --> 00:31:34,480 we'll be doing it we'll put it out of 624 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,399 grade until uh until the contract is 625 00:31:37,399 --> 00:31:39,919 complete and again we're using uh taking 626 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:42,080 that out of judgment and claims uh 627 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,279 because as reference with the uh water 628 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,080 department uh the last one was the 629 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,519 20,000 for Public Safety Foundation you 630 00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,279 wanted to put the 20,000 back in so we 631 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:55,559 went from 5 to 25,000 and again we're 632 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,960 taking another 20 out of uh so there is 633 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880 no uh budget changes the proposed 634 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,279 changes is equal 5,000 in the revenue 635 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,559 side and 5,000 on the uh expense side so 636 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:10,840 it's 637 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,720 equal uh the second phas is capital 638 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,919 funding um we're moving uh Utilities in 639 00:32:16,919 --> 00:32:22,399 it we taking to 200,000 uh and uh we're 640 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:26,880 as we're taking 140,000 out of 200an say 641 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880 the servers are okay as you remember you 642 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440 said and the 60,000 is to upgrade all 643 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,559 the computers as Mr van asked thank you 644 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:38,600 for it's a reduction of 140,000 under 645 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,720 golf that's a reduction of 140,000 646 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960 yes 647 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,360 uh so we're going from 200,000 to 60,000 648 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,600 for utilities yes because the the theet 649 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,360 said that the servers were good and then 650 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480 Mr you actually purchased them this year 651 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,120 oh got yeah and Mr wanted him to update 652 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,320 all the computers instead of waiting so he requested originally and the 653 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840 budget was 200,000 again but he said 654 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,679 we're go with that and so he he only 655 00:33:12,679 --> 00:33:14,880 needed the 60,000 for the 656 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,399 upgrades okay okay so that just reduced 657 00:33:17,399 --> 00:33:20,720 Capital yeah got it go 658 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,039 ahead wrong the mayor or um B said that 659 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,360 if they purchased the computers they 660 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,480 wouldn't potentially be able to get to 661 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,799 all next 662 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:33,399 year not in a couple months but they will they will work on them in into 663 00:33:33,399 --> 00:33:35,639 until next year make sure that they get 664 00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:38,039 it done for the 12 month duration but 665 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,240 not like two or three months to get all 666 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,360 done it will take 667 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,960 time thank you okay uh we're going to 668 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720 the golf course this is all other 669 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,919 Capital reserves sweeper originally uh 670 00:33:50,919 --> 00:33:54,320 Mr W was yeah 15,000 but it was actually 671 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,000 45,000 so we had to increase that by 672 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,399 30,000 673 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:00,399 but again the grass mow which he had 674 00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:03,000 budgeted for 150,000 is actually only 675 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 50,000 so we're subtracting the 100,000 676 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,720 out of that and the utility C which he 677 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,879 had is 18,000 it's actually 678 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:15,919 23,000 so we're adding 5,000 on that uh 679 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:18,599 and then uh uh the Water Department as 680 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,159 we mentioned we're adding water 681 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,159 infrastructure for the CR Main Street 682 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,720 for a million dollar and we're 683 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,919 decreasing a million dollar for the bar 684 00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:28,720 streen design the swore by million 685 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,800 dollar so total capital u total Capital 686 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,440 funds are going down by 687 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,159 [Music] 688 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,119 $25,000 next one is uh third third one 689 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,760 stage is water fund U the water rental 690 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,800 we're making a change from 691 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,639 5,000 revenues they decreasing that by 692 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,560 5,000 so new budget will be zero and so 693 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,440 we're taking that 5,000 out of light p 694 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,160 and gas from from 9 9 695 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,359 5,500 to 696 00:35:00,359 --> 00:35:03,480 98,500 that way we don't have to deal 697 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960 with appropriate fun balance or anything 698 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,359 so makes it makes it a c 699 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:11,720 sweet so those are those are the changes 700 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,680 so far I mean nothing is uh 701 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000 [Music] 702 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,400 guarante thank thank you for for pushing 703 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,300 these ches for 704 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:26,430 [Music] 705 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,599 providing what our contingency 706 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,010 today B chance you have 707 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:41,550 [Music] 708 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,720 your it yes you have you have 709 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,390 your here I'll let 710 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,920 you we are currently 711 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,000 199y um this is uh for period of end of 712 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,440 September 24$ 713 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680 33156 I'm sorry could you say that more 714 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920 slowly please 715 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,319 3316 thank 716 00:36:07,319 --> 00:36:09,680 you that's what we 717 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,750 SP and we're bringing this down to 718 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:14,960 [Music] 719 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,599 220,000 no 720 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,079 fires Marina was going to teach people 721 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:25,470 not have 722 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,119 fires have a fire just having ins 723 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,680 right like said if you got to cut 724 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,599 something we got to take away in one we 725 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:36,079 got to take away 726 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,960 something if you want something you got 727 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200 to take away from some else to me that 728 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,680 seems one what I heard any other 729 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,640 departments any question on on these um 730 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:54,349 changes as of 731 00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:59,240 now any other there were 732 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:04,790 more from last 733 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000 evening the salary list did you want to 734 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,190 do the salary 735 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,440 list I have I thought see I didn't make 736 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,800 a lot of notes last night those I was 737 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,400 looking at I saw you notes I think that 738 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,309 was all the gas that was 739 00:37:24,319 --> 00:37:26,800 all what was the Sal list we're talking 740 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,079 about 741 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,880 gave that last night yeah you did that 742 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:37,790 last 743 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,790 night anyone has question on the salary 744 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,280 list I think yeah I was going to touch 745 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,599 in your um your questions now if nobody 746 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,119 else has anything we'll just go straight 747 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,950 into 748 00:37:53,960 --> 00:38:00,350 your in your documents today there is a 749 00:38:00,350 --> 00:38:02,000 [Music] 750 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,800 page set a document reive today we have 751 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,240 a page here a list of 752 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:15,990 um 753 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,240 questions that you're talking about yes 754 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,040 we that yesterday unless there was 755 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440 anything we can address we'll address 756 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,359 them okay and then the papers that we 757 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:28,079 got today they were some questions and 758 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,920 it I did print the question and attach 759 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,810 it to the back 760 00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:38,040 [Music] 761 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,359 up so should we take a minute to read 762 00:38:40,359 --> 00:38:42,720 through the paperwork yes go ahead we 763 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,440 just started go ahead then we'll go 764 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,319 through each of the U the 765 00:38:47,319 --> 00:38:49,440 questions we didn't get chance to answer 766 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,370 all of them we get 767 00:38:52,370 --> 00:39:03,910 [Music] 768 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,960 can you make a copy for 769 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,820 the 770 00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:20,680 [Music] 771 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000 please this is just a question there's 772 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,560 no answer right yeah no I think if you 773 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,960 look at some of the backups here there 774 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,640 were like to U Got answer the rest we'll 775 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,400 just go through them 776 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,560 maybe can address them or we'll 777 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,240 just if not we'll just have to wait so 778 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,280 we'll just go through them all right 779 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,760 yeah we'll go through them whatever can 780 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,160 answer today we'll answer if not we'll 781 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:54,070 have to RIS it tomorrow 782 00:39:54,080 --> 00:40:15,430 [Music] 783 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:34,850 Wonder 784 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:36,520 [Music] 785 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,599 if you turn to the same package that we 786 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:53,010 received today there's a question 787 00:40:53,020 --> 00:41:05,550 [Music] 788 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,319 so under revenue and it's I think it's a 789 00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:10,520 2130 790 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,480 F excessive 791 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,240 um W collection fee so we we have a 792 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:22,240 revenue in it against that but 793 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,440 um 794 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:31,030 21 2130 21 795 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,119 130 so you will see that there's a 796 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,160 $500,000 797 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,040 there so aside for that Revenue 798 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,880 L what page was that in R page 799 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,720 Revenue 800 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:51,359 page two almost to the bottom a 213 have 801 00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:54,390 oh I got 802 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,040 it so committee people set up and um and 803 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160 review this over time um we need to act 804 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000 on it to move forward with to because 805 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,400 it's there in budget so next Monday you 806 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,560 will see an agenda item for us to 807 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,680 discuss and move forward with um with 808 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880 this um program in terms of the Fe 809 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:23,160 structure for um for this um 810 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,510 line just a 213f the rest of we 811 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:34,190 [Music] 812 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,359 are we getting a policy or any documents 813 00:42:36,359 --> 00:42:39,599 or presentation yes there will be 814 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,599 documents will be in the package for 815 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:47,510 tomorrow and presentation may just want 816 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,770 to any discussions with that 817 00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:54,790 [Music] 818 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,920 apprciate I know your part you want to 819 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,640 stand about 820 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,840 it some of 821 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,160 [Music] 822 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,359 us was going to ask and we've decided or 823 00:43:08,359 --> 00:43:11,079 yes I I think the the the team decided 824 00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,280 to move forward with it on this point 825 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,200 time and they can do a presentation on 826 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,960 Monday and so call for a public hearing 827 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,920 on the proposed 828 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480 uh I've kind of heard what you've heard 829 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,200 which um I don't think we as far as I 830 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,240 was in about there was nothing 831 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,839 definitely put forward um I've heard 832 00:43:30,839 --> 00:43:33,599 what Mr lefant had to say at the meeting 833 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,200 here I haven't been to one of the 834 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,760 neighborhood meetings where he's for 835 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,440 present um looking forward to the 836 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,599 presentation um there were multiple 837 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:45,870 things that we discussed a lot of 838 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,760 different no I just want I just want to 839 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,359 brief you on that because more more will 840 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:51,599 be discussed Monday at the uh committee 841 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,480 meeting but I just want to that' because 842 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,400 um we have it in Revenue but we need to 843 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,200 activate to to review it to make amend 844 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,680 as possible how much we can and to um 845 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,920 call for the public hearing and move 846 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,559 forward so that we can adopt this until 847 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,559 next year because it's in the 848 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,319 budget so does that hold up the approval 849 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:12,480 of the budget until we have the public 850 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,119 hearing 851 00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:16,559 no but we just you know putting 852 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,160 everything in line to make it happen 853 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,839 it's the C it's on a council allow to 854 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:24,040 act on it do we move forward what is 855 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,160 recommended do we make changes it's up 856 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,800 to us and us as a council we've really 857 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,680 done 858 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,990 nothing well I would't say that so 859 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,240 low I say that so L because the 860 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,559 committee was fored there was no 861 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,520 recommendation from the committee to us 862 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,839 until we um Anthony I been discussing it 863 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:46,119 in terms of Revenue in terms of all 864 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:47,640 these things we need to put them in 865 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,480 place it's not in place what do we need 866 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000 to do we need to act and that's how this 867 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,720 is coming forward so I think um it's not 868 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,800 a blame game it's about some everybody 869 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,880 has thing to do and um the committee 870 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,319 worked really hard we have to give them 871 00:45:01,319 --> 00:45:08,599 credit we did and we now have to do our work so like we clean it 872 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:11,359 up and move forward with 873 00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:14,520 in so Mr if it's already in the budget 874 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,280 and this is not going to impact this 875 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,000 budget so where is the 500 is that 876 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,200 coming out of the fund balance right now 877 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000 what's how it's reflect in the budget I 878 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,559 propose these changes would go forward 879 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,359 to create a revenue stream that would 880 00:45:26,359 --> 00:45:28,839 equal 881 00:45:28,839 --> 00:45:31,480 $500,000 so right now but you just said 882 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,079 that it wasn't in the budget so right 883 00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:34,520 now it's in the budget the budget is 884 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,359 balanced so where is it where you 885 00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:38,200 presented it coming from at this moment 886 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,319 it's balanced with an anticipation the 887 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:43,800 way it comes antip yes we going to adopt 888 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,880 this change and move forward so the 889 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,800 finance because we are in a finance 890 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,599 committee meeting we can't um because we 891 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,280 have to have a public hearing about 892 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,720 these changes we can't just okay so 893 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,280 that's a timing that's a timing so we 894 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,559 need to get this done before for of 895 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:03,920 January I don't see how can we vote on 896 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,720 the budget I guess I'm not really 897 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:07,000 understanding how we can vote on this 898 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,440 budget these figures we talked about it 899 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,280 as it moveed forward we now looking to 900 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,319 move it 901 00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:15,400 forward proposal that making changes in 902 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,520 the code would generate 903 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,359 $500,000 in revenues to go after those 904 00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:25,839 individuals that drive up the cost and 905 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:28,079 increase our expenses 906 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,040 if the council chose not to move forward 907 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480 in that I am very confident that I can 908 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,119 generate $500,000 in Revenue with the 909 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:39,760 current code it'll it'll require okay 910 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,400 some reallocation of police uh use the 911 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,240 snap Cruise other ones but nobody's 912 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,400 garbage is in compliance so we'll do is 913 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960 we would site every house for 914 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,079 $50 because the code is just out of date 915 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,680 and it has not been changed and 916 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,079 very easy to generate half million doll 917 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,359 this would affect the budget because 918 00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:06,440 look at the police fees look at code Enforcement we budgeted for 919 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,800 anticipated fee increase and revenue 920 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,160 from various Department that will get 921 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,319 implemented next year so we are just 922 00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:16,760 projecting ahead that this is going to 923 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,480 happen next year so this is one of them 924 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,839 okay unfortunately it's it's a little 925 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:23,800 late but it's not too late for us to 926 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,440 review and make our recommendation and 927 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,880 follow because we need to adopt 928 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520 it and and not you know I know we're in 929 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,760 finance but I think it's very important 930 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,079 and imperative that we do this again as 931 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:40,119 the mayor States our code is so outdated 932 00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:41,880 um it's in our code that that no bu 933 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,640 guids are in there we all know we throw 934 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,839 bulk items out so 935 00:47:46,839 --> 00:47:50,280 to to generate the $500,000 I think is 936 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:57,510 feasible for this year's coming budget 937 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,839 I'm just saying from my perspective it's 938 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:02,480 presumptuous to assume that it's going 939 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960 to continue through with no additional 940 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,000 hitches as we've already received an 941 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,599 email from an individual speaking to how 942 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:12,760 it's going to be implemented so I can 943 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,920 understand the uh practicality and I 944 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,359 appreciate the additional reassurances 945 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:20,599 that regardless of how this proceeds the 946 00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,040 May was confident that he'll be able to 947 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,319 recoup those funds which I think is a 948 00:48:23,319 --> 00:48:25,400 reassurance at least for me but duting 949 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,280 with the STS to work that the committee 950 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000 has been doing there's an important 951 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,319 segment that still needs to be done 952 00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:32,160 which is hearing from the community and 953 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,200 also we haven't talked about again the 954 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,119 email we received and how this is going 955 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,720 to impact those individuals on the 956 00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:40,800 ground so the what would come forward 957 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,720 Monday is a series of proposals still 958 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:46,200 the discretion of the city council to 959 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,000 modify those in a number of ways and 960 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,240 again the goal is to some efficiency 961 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,240 into the system and cover our current 962 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:05,670 operating 963 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,319 cost the O commissioner um will be will 964 00:49:09,319 --> 00:49:12,960 be at Monday's meeting to present this 965 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,640 and you know we are sure to ask 966 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,799 questions and so make 967 00:49:18,799 --> 00:49:22,720 changes yeah would we just be able to 968 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,960 add that to projected revenue for this 969 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:34,720 budget though it's already it's in there that's why it's like all the other agency like us police 970 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,119 increase the code enforcement fee 971 00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,040 increase is already in there we just 972 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,760 going through the process of calling the 973 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,880 public hearing getting it done and 974 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,200 adopting that resolution or ordinance 975 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,760 and just okay do the pr portion of it 976 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,079 and let people know that these things 977 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,359 are out there and U defective things 978 00:49:52,359 --> 00:49:54,160 right what we're saying is that whether 979 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,839 this moves forward or not out of that 980 00:49:55,839 --> 00:49:57,400 same department will be able to recoup 981 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,839 the money based on the way things are 982 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:01,240 existing right now if there were no 983 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,960 changes 984 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,359 that's yes it will be as Z impa 985 00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:07,920 regardless yeah but if if we implemented 986 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,559 this and it's 987 00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:11,720 sucessful puts a lot of pressure on the 988 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:15,910 city council to make quick 989 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,280 changes literally every house is going 990 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,280 to get sighted so yes everybody is not 991 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,319 in compliance with regards to city code 992 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:26,280 in terms of do we want to do that no so 993 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,440 let's ask and you know bring bring some 994 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,799 things into in line yeah I'm totally 995 00:50:30,799 --> 00:50:33,680 fine with this the pr segment is going 996 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,319 to be out there to kind of notify people 997 00:50:35,319 --> 00:50:36,430 of these um 998 00:50:36,430 --> 00:50:38,480 [Music] 999 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,599 changes so we'll have more I just want 1000 00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:41,920 to bring that up to the council because 1001 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,119 it's part of the budget and as to you 1002 00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,000 know not mention it because as I 1003 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,079 promised um last year budget is to look 1004 00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,160 at all the fees and that's what I'm 1005 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160 doing working with department head 1006 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,280 working with Finance working with the 1007 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,119 man to make sure that we bring all these 1008 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,200 Fe in line with today's um service the 1009 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,119 cost of 1010 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,640 service and know those are all the 1011 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,760 components unfortunately I wasn't on 1012 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,799 that committee but um you know as the 1013 00:51:09,799 --> 00:51:11,920 finance chair I have to drive it to make 1014 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,079 sure that we we do not have hold in the 1015 00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:19,599 budget and I'm sure that we're not going 1016 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,920 to uh Le use this as a process to 1017 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,760 leverage action from the city council 1018 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,160 I'm sure that the mayor is not saying 1019 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,240 that 1020 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,240 okay 1021 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,710 ni so 1022 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:39,040 no that's nice all right well we'll have 1023 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,079 more detail on that next Monday let's go 1024 00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:43,119 through um the question you should have 1025 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:47,599 a shate Mr Williams um questions so 1026 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,160 we'll um we'll just go through each one 1027 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,520 and um if Mr Ferrari can answer if not 1028 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,119 far and come back tomorrow and and get 1029 00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:03,430 the answer um for Mr Williams 1030 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,200 tomorrow um the first one is um a 1031 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,040 8686 director of 1032 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,640 development 10% increase 24 1033 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,640 Sal um 10% increase with increase your 1034 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,319 salary from the May's proposed budget of 1035 00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:27,880 88,000 to 93,000 1036 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,470 991 1037 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,230 93,9 1038 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,079 991 and just a reminder let let's um 1039 00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,119 avoid any name attached to this let's 1040 00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:52,349 deal with the um the 1041 00:52:52,359 --> 00:52:56,559 position the next one is um a 8686 1042 00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,160 zoning officer zoning officer at the 1043 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,240 mayor's proposed 2025 budget is uh at 1044 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:05,400 proposed salary at 1045 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,319 66,800 1046 00:53:07,319 --> 00:53:09,480 U and with the 1047 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,109 657 it would go to 1048 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:18,079 67,500 oh that's already written here 1049 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:24,599 y the next is a 8687 homes coordinator under the mayor's 1050 00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:27,960 proposed budget his salary would be $ 1051 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,520 69,8 1052 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,960 21 with the proposed for Mr Williams 1053 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,150 $179 to 1054 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,440 7,000 that's even 1055 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,880 yeah again I think on this sheet that 1056 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,910 you 1057 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,480 just and then the next one is a410 City 1058 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,079 Park C cler under the mayor's proposed 1059 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,000 budget is 1060 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,280 $83,200 with 10 % increase it would go 1061 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,789 to 1062 00:54:00,799 --> 00:54:03,559 88,89 plus the 1063 00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:08,910 $5,000 register would come to 1064 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,760 93,94 1065 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,359 938 1066 00:54:12,359 --> 00:54:19,829 93892 thank 1067 00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:22,040 you and then the next question is the 1068 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,319 commissioner Finance recommend um may 1069 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:25,799 your discretionary fund to address 1070 00:54:25,799 --> 00:54:28,559 future qualify applicant Deputy 1071 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,920 Commissioner Finance additional 1072 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,119 15% I thought that that was just the way 1073 00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:35,359 in which it was presented if we're 1074 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:37,440 trying to just have an adjustable means 1075 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,040 to respond to candidates the way it's 1076 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,920 been presented previously was that would 1077 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,829 be an appropriate 1078 00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:50,710 use I didn't think I put 1079 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:53,880 anything what's this yeah I had a 1080 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,030 question on that and 1081 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,640 [Music] 1082 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,000 15,000,000 1083 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,240 that's that's not for a salary that's 1084 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:11,599 for discretion for his travel the keys 1085 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:15,359 to the city all the other stuff so 1086 00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,200 commissioner isn't that what we had to 1087 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,520 call it for for 1088 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160 discretionary AR we had the AR we took 1089 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,480 it out put it out last year for for 1090 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,839 salaries so when I looked at it 10,000 I 1091 00:55:26,839 --> 00:55:27,960 thought that was 1092 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,190 it yes so there's 1093 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,320 no 1094 00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:49,789 [Music] 1095 00:55:49,799 --> 00:55:52,240 15,000,000 1096 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,359 take it 1097 00:55:54,359 --> 00:55:56,960 out 95 1098 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,200 958 49 4958 page of 18 in the 1099 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,760 book as you recall what happened tried 1100 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,599 to use it uh The Corporation Council T 1101 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,640 he can only use for his 1102 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,920 own St own Bureau and not for others so 1103 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,480 that's why we moved it into 1104 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,079 undistributed so we can move it for 1105 00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,240 other people and then they we just took 1106 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:23,920 it away we just Tak zero yeah it's why 1107 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,789 some people AR employed by the city 1108 00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,480 but if I can recall our conversations 1109 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,039 last year funds no everybody works for 1110 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:37,640 this let's let's not do that yeah sorry 1111 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:43,039 I thought let's let's um let's stay Focus go ahead please um 1112 00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,160 Mr if I can recall from last year I I 1113 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,599 can remember that conversation but I 1114 00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:50,520 thought we switched our Focus to saying 1115 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,079 that the mayor could use that 1116 00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,280 discretionary fund line to achieve those 1117 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,559 same needs yes that's why it was move to 1118 00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,480 this I remember I 1119 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,079 was 1120 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,589 away oh it's still 1121 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:06,039 funed no the discretionary fund is so 1122 00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,600 that discre is not for there's 1123 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,559 [Music] 1124 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,839 no $1,000 in this year's budget but 1125 00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:17,520 mostly mostly that 1126 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,559 10,000 pla things for the city the 1127 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:23,720 proclamations all stuff that's 1128 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,359 what and there was 13,000 1129 00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:33,240 in expense in 2023 yeah it was it was 1130 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,400 yeah was never able to I mean 1131 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,640 discretion well I will say reimbursed on 1132 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,400 something there 1133 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,319 so had to try to use that it didn't work 1134 00:57:45,319 --> 00:57:51,109 out individual 1135 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:57,680 I yeah what is your take CS would like to 1136 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,920 see what 1137 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,880 15% or 1138 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,760 something are some funding there yeah I 1139 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,839 totally got of that because I I looked 1140 00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:10,319 at the the M discretionary M 1141 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,280 discretionary and that's 1142 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,599 $10,000 there still for that great and I 1143 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:18,720 say of the uses that are primarily used 1144 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,520 from Mr Ferrari that 1145 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:26,119 sign be 8 121 450 so I think with it 1146 00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,440 being entitled discretionary I don't 1147 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,240 think we need to ask for an assessment 1148 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,920 of what's using those funds but again 1149 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,520 from last year I thought an appropriate 1150 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,720 use was in these instances similar to 1151 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,440 one that we're discussing right now with 1152 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,799 adjusting line so that's why I 1153 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:43,520 recommended it so so can I just ask 1154 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,599 question so are you saying that in your 1155 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:50,760 email today are you recommending that 1156 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,240 the mayor's discretionary fund is used 1157 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,000 to increase the of the commissioner 1158 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,520 Finance because that's the way I'm 1159 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,760 reading this in your email we're having 1160 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,319 this discussion because there is a 1161 00:59:03,319 --> 00:59:05,799 potential that it is not going to be 1162 00:59:05,799 --> 00:59:08,240 inappropriate uh the salary will not be 1163 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,440 enough to entice people to apply to that 1164 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,599 line I get we're not even in that 1165 00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:14,599 situation yet so my response is if we 1166 00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,799 are then in that position using an 1167 00:59:17,799 --> 00:59:20,079 already allocated fund the discretionary 1168 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:22,839 fund to fill that 1169 00:59:22,839 --> 00:59:27,440 cap so we would take we would take 314 1170 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,039 from the 10,000 and leave the rest of it 1171 00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:31,760 for the mayor's discretionary fund is 1172 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,520 what you're recommending I'm just trying 1173 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,160 to clarify yeah no which would be less 1174 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,039 than what's currently allocated to that 1175 00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:38,079 line so 1176 00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,440 yes if we needed it except that what 1177 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,240 would we do to make up the rest of the 1178 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,359 expense like I'm saying last year 1179 00:59:44,359 --> 00:59:47,880 $113,000 was spent on that line in as 1180 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,359 the mayor's discretionary fund so we 1181 00:59:50,359 --> 00:59:51,720 would we would just have to figure out 1182 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,640 where would the rest of discretionary 1183 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,400 funds come if we were to use 1184 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,680 discretionary funding to increase the 1185 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,039 salary of the commissioner Finance I 1186 00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:00,760 just want to clarify just but again we 1187 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,440 don't know if we'll need it so again 1188 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,680 we're talking about a 1189 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,599 hypothetical and then also the mayor's 1190 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:10,549 discretionary fund is year year to 1191 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:13,359 year are you could no I'm not confused 1192 01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:14,720 at all I just want to ask the question 1193 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,799 what's it been used on has it did you 1194 01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:18,119 use some of this was some of the 1195 01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:21,200 discretionary For Hire or was it all for 1196 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,000 number um I want to know how so is it 1197 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,839 all for um 1198 01:00:26,839 --> 01:00:28,960 giving out keys to the city and those 1199 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,599 kind of things cor none of it was used 1200 01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:32,400 for salaries none of it was used to 1201 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,880 entice someone else 1202 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,079 to and most times if that situation 1203 01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:42,160 occurs a position is vacant for a period 1204 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,039 of time so the council I use $10,000 as 1205 01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:47,920 an 1206 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,559 example if well use 12,000 it's easier 1207 01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:52,720 for the 1208 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,230 math if 1209 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,559 uh the position is 1210 01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,119 open council's authorized 1211 01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,599 $112,000 I haven't been able to hire 1212 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:09,079 somebody for two months I can actually 1213 01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:12,119 pay them on an annual rate of 1214 01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:16,000 $4,000 for the remainder of the year and 1215 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,839 then where that has occurred then I 1216 01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,400 would come back to the council in the 1217 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,960 next budget and say we've hired so and 1218 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160 so we had to pay a little bit more for 1219 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,200 it and make make the budget in the next 1220 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,680 year reflect what the actual salary 1221 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,950 is what's going I'm 1222 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,710 sorry that's the uh take back 1223 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,480 the that's right okay they didn't get a 1224 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,069 noise perm 1225 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:50,789 though come 1226 01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:52,520 on 1227 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,400 so what what was it take away at this 1228 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,599 I'm just trying to get a number towards 1229 01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:01,640 this line so we're looking like to 50 oh 1230 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,520 there is no discretionary line at this 1231 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,599 point in 1232 01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,160 time sounds like it sounds like the 1233 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,960 council already has the prerogative and 1234 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,400 the mayor already has the ability to 1235 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,599 authorize that additional and it's a new 1236 01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,000 Point there's all there most of the time 1237 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,079 there funding available in is L that now 1238 01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:23,880 said they shift like or I come back to 1239 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,559 the city council and say I've got to 1240 01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:31,150 hire somebody and I 1241 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,200 need 10,000 1242 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,920 bucks 1243 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,279 mhm we have done that in the past many 1244 01:02:38,279 --> 01:02:41,589 times budget re 1245 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,880 appropriation and the line was not 1246 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,960 technically overspent last year that 1247 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,880 was 1248 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,240 uh Jamaican power system asked me to go 1249 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,760 to Jamaica as part of the Smart City 1250 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,610 conference 1251 01:02:56,610 --> 01:02:57,960 [Music] 1252 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,799 and I paid for it from the city and then 1253 01:03:00,799 --> 01:03:04,760 they reimbursed the city for that 1254 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,599 expense so it looks like we overspent 1255 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,520 the line but in fact there's more 1256 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,960 Revenue coming in to offset those 1257 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,279 expenses that happed in past years where 1258 01:03:15,279 --> 01:03:18,000 myself and John kucho N National 1259 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,640 Institute is technology was a routine 1260 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,559 speaker at some of their 1261 01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:27,920 events they would pay my expens to 1262 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,400 go despite all of that I mean what is 1263 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,400 the do we want to put back down I'll put 1264 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,480 back for you want to put $15,000 to the 1265 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,880 plan $20,000 to the plan and half day 1266 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,160 available to the man you mean the 1267 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:47,390 recruitment line not the discretionary 1268 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,400 yeah and that would be yes the May 1269 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,829 recruitment f 1270 01:03:55,839 --> 01:03:57,440 table because the question asked I'm 1271 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,880 okay not adding that back in again I 1272 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,870 don't think we need to do anything 1273 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,720 okay so you suggesting leing the salary 1274 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,760 with just a 3% and then when somebody 1275 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,079 else is higher than a comes back to 1276 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:14,680 it yes it's going to be 1277 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:22,230 clear so that's the 1278 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,960 commiss the next one is um a 2120 1279 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,109 -200 and 1280 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,480 203 one more time 1281 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,119 8312 oh that's for 1282 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:41,200 uh uh Alliance the 1283 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,880 police 1284 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,880 831 uh that's for receiving the grants 1285 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,480 yeah yes so you should have you should 1286 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,039 have a document a answer to that 1287 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:54,640 question back up Mr skipped over the 1288 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,319 deputy position 1289 01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:59,119 at the bottom did I 1290 01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:04,319 yes sorry let's go back up sorry okay 1291 01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:06,359 Deputy Commissioner 1292 01:05:06,359 --> 01:05:11,190 Finance additional 1293 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,440 15% okay the mayor's uh proposed budget 1294 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,200 was 1295 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,079 120,000 and at 15% of the 24 salary come 1296 01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:22,440 to 1297 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,880 92,000 Ethan 1298 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,190 I 1299 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,799 correct um so so then I know you've 1300 01:05:33,799 --> 01:05:34,960 talked about a lot someone just going to 1301 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,520 say that loud so when then when you 1302 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,599 retire the assumption would be that the 1303 01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:43,160 current Deputy would move up and would 1304 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,390 they come in at that 1305 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,279 salary since I know that when we hire 1306 01:05:50,279 --> 01:05:52,000 people that are you know aren't 1307 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,200 employees that they may come in a lower 1308 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,880 salary but if it's an existing employee 1309 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,520 would you bring them in the same salary 1310 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,240 as the employee that's leaving and 1311 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,039 haven't been in that 1312 01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:05,680 department don't have a position on that 1313 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,960 it's when the situation actually 1314 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:16,190 occurs evaluate it take it 1315 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,920 appropriate should you're not going be 1316 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,559 able to get anybody at a 1317 01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:26,069 133,000 the truth 1318 01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,549 you're 1319 01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:30,960 not well again but for the Deputy 1320 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,960 Commissioner I mean I guess I would say 1321 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,079 that we're not going to get anybody for 1322 01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,599 824 or 92 I don't know but I'm just 1323 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:39,520 saying um is that what you're saying yes 1324 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,510 that's that's why we propose that 1325 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,000 have because you know you know being the 1326 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,599 commissioner Director of Finance is not 1327 01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:53,039 it's a very difficult job you know and 1328 01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,279 uh I you trade together for a while but 1329 01:06:56,279 --> 01:06:58,680 he does need a backup it's somebody 1330 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,240 who's who's capable capable of helping 1331 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,559 him and call forward 1332 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:09,279 too so Mr Williams's um suggestion is 1333 01:07:09,279 --> 01:07:10,720 sort of in the 1334 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:17,470 middle of those two 1335 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,760 figures I would say the minimum for 1336 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,520 Deputy Commissioner has to be at least 1337 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:28,069 100,000 1338 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:33,029 sorry sorry who Mar oh 1339 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:36,640 Mar 120,000 is what we've thought 100 I 1340 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,920 think the minimum you could go for 1341 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,640 100,000 I'm just going to get something 1342 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,230 experience is D in this room 1343 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:52,910 yes we got send 1344 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,680 D all right I would say hearing that we 1345 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,319 were able to readjust the money that was 1346 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,920 originally appropriated to the Deputy 1347 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,559 Commissioner Finance I I would be an 1348 01:08:03,559 --> 01:08:06,279 agreement with that say that say that 1349 01:08:06,279 --> 01:08:08,359 again $100,000 so if the original ask 1350 01:08:08,359 --> 01:08:11,240 was for an additional 32,000 37,000 if 1351 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,000 we can take into consideration all of 1352 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,640 the management raises these risk 1353 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,679 recommendations if it was still able to 1354 01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:19,000 be captured without any additional 1355 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,279 movement within the budget I would be 1356 01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,719 responsive to the $100,000 that the 1357 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:31,950 commissioner just 1358 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,440 is somebody making notes on on that side 1359 01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:39,080 there so so we're looking at in the dep 1360 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,839 commiss of Finance going from0 to 1361 01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:44,760 100 that is what suggested right on the 1362 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,560 [Music] 1363 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,120 table 1364 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:57,349 discussed we now have 824 92 or 100 yeah 1365 01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,560 all right the next one is a 1366 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,239 a320-200 and 1367 01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:06,799 203 and that's the 1368 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:10,910 P there is an email 1369 01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:24,359 [Music] 1370 01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:29,149 from keep track of 1371 01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:34,070 this so this is the answer 1372 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,970 to a 1373 01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:42,229 [Music] 1374 01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:46,580 31223 it's 1375 01:09:46,590 --> 01:10:04,280 [Music] 1376 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,000 response or you need anything additional 1377 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:20,120 to 1378 01:10:20,130 --> 01:10:22,719 [Music] 1379 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:26,159 this okay the next one is A3 1380 01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:30,000 31-100 is it 100 um correct no that's 1381 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,719 not correct should be 200 200 I saw the 1382 01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:34,000 emails 1383 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,159 back yes yes so you should have you 1384 01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:40,840 should have an email from also all that 1385 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,790 just for 1386 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,040 that is that a Brian 1387 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:54,229 [Music] 1388 01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:58,520 Canon find his response to that ion this 1389 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,199 is um a 1390 01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:04,560 5132 go ahead please so I was going to 1391 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,480 say it wasn't a mistake during the 1392 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,320 conversation discussion about the future 1393 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,719 so our upcoming budget year and how one 1394 01:11:13,719 --> 01:11:15,760 of the positions was designated this 1395 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,400 year as ARA funding and the conversation 1396 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,120 was how do you propose funding this line 1397 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,760 in the future to which the respon is 1398 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,679 potential EV funding streams so my 1399 01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:28,199 question simply was is there any ability 1400 01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:30,080 for us to try and capture that funding 1401 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,000 for this year's budget to offset that 1402 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,159 line the answer was no but it was not a 1403 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:35,920 mistake on my oh sorry yeah yeah I 1404 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,639 remember you asked that question and yes 1405 01:11:37,639 --> 01:11:44,110 that question was asked yes sorry 1406 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,280 yeah so may going forward in terms of 1407 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,040 funding revenue from the target station 1408 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:57,430 is that something in the future 1409 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,840 oh the some of the charging stations we 1410 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,040 have to provide free 1411 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,440 electricity other ones we're charging 1412 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:07,560 for but really it's at the level to 1413 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,560 cover our expenses for so it's not going 1414 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:18,629 to be this point a big Revenue 1415 01:12:18,639 --> 01:12:21,520 Source yeah and I remember Brian did say 1416 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,960 that now the the DC charges station 1417 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:31,430 that's looking to put in 1418 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,440 on 1419 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:37,760 yri those had the potential generating 1420 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,950 positive 1421 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,360 Revenue the reality is the lead time for 1422 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,600 that 1423 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,000 is like 9 months so you're not going to 1424 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,840 see that installs those are half no 1425 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,639 installations 1426 01:12:55,639 --> 01:13:00,350 34 of the way through next 1427 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,629 year 1428 01:13:03,639 --> 01:13:20,430 that's budget money based that that is a note for 1429 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:23,590 budet 1430 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,639 okay that 1431 01:13:26,639 --> 01:13:29,840 yes the next one is a 1432 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,149 5132 1433 01:13:33,159 --> 01:13:36,719 d460 you know prob did not give answer 1434 01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:39,920 back but he did call me and he asked me 1435 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,920 just you know what they mean by that 1436 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,120 exactly what it says he says that you 1437 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,719 know as of right now because our cars 1438 01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:49,280 are so new you know they're warranted 1439 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,320 Tak to the a warranty the dealership for 1440 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,480 a warranty but he say you know they're 1441 01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,600 very considerate doing this because as 1442 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,000 we are gaining more cars as we want to 1443 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,719 give staff to uh train we can't train 1444 01:14:03,719 --> 01:14:05,880 them he says CU nobody in our staff 1445 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,520 knows about it send them you know one at 1446 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,400 a time to training you look at it's 1447 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,960 going probably be within the future he 1448 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,000 not that for 1449 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,360 2025 it was a very good 1450 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,000 question just do you know where that 1451 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,800 train where locally do that training I I 1452 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,480 think I think uh just like how the uh 1453 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,880 the dealerships their guys get trained I 1454 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,800 think there's places where we would hon 1455 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,400 Valley has some training in that area 1456 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,880 it's an emerging market so I don't know 1457 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,760 to what 1458 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,239 degree Poli exp 1459 01:14:49,239 --> 01:14:53,000 for that's sending people there we have 1460 01:14:53,000 --> 01:15:07,570 Professor something come here 1461 01:15:07,580 --> 01:15:18,350 [Music] 1462 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,880 okay 1463 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,639 7310 you have a question 1464 01:15:22,639 --> 01:15:28,430 no yeah a 73 10- 1465 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,480 41A requesting local 1466 01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:34,840 business allowed to apply with the with 1467 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,719 the youth employment 1468 01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:40,760 opportunity that's a youth program 1469 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,520 allocation I think it's a good idea 1470 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,120 forar will be first in line I think it's 1471 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,950 a good idea too we 1472 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,040 can the question I think is broadly 1473 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,159 discusses not only City Hall to work 1474 01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:58,639 help dependent work BR to help with work 1475 01:15:58,639 --> 01:16:01,520 put placement into other business it's a 1476 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,880 good 1477 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,880 idea I I like I agree with that idea um 1478 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,000 I'd also like to see us um you know 1479 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,360 increase that that line in order to ACC 1480 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,520 accompany that right um I did ask for 1481 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,120 ash we to dat but 50,000 56,000 56,000 1482 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,080 out of 150,000 so we're about 0 we don't 1483 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,840 have any outstanding um any outstanding 1484 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,080 invoices from the school 1485 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,560 district the city so that's all we spent 1486 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,639 was 50,000 56,000 out of the 150 from 1487 01:16:36,639 --> 01:16:37,560 last 1488 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,920 year so there was there would have been 1489 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,360 an opportunity than to have young people 1490 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,400 in other places outside of City Hall um 1491 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,520 long time ago to do the program through 1492 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:53,280 um wellts they put young all over 1493 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,159 including like MP alties and all that 1494 01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:58,679 but also in um private businesses and 1495 01:16:58,679 --> 01:17:01,159 things like that so um I agree I think 1496 01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:04,040 that's something that we could explore 1497 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,000 again go ahead please I think it's a 1498 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,719 good idea actually also um certainly I 1499 01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:12,080 know from my pre-retirement um I would 1500 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,800 have loved to have had the opportunity 1501 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,280 to hire somebody and have somebody else 1502 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,159 pay for it no seriously no I'm just 1503 01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:19,520 saying I mean I think it's a really good 1504 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,120 idea and then plus there's kids that 1505 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,639 there's youth that have different career 1506 01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:26,080 interests so it really is a nice 1507 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,880 partnership with whether it's businesses 1508 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,560 whether it's nonprofits it would be a 1509 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,760 good idea in terms of what uh president 1510 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,600 Porterfield just said didn't we last 1511 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,159 year give some money to sjta to thought 1512 01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:44,800 we did years last two 1513 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,960 years but we're not considering that 1514 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,840 this year I guess I don't 2025 I think 1515 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,920 that's what they asked to the table is 1516 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,990 toes have it plug no 1517 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,360 ask Anthony where money that went 1518 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,480 usjt we put money into the county 1519 01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,719 program I don't know this year they 1520 01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:09,159 didn't give us anything they didn't give 1521 01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:10,199 us any 1522 01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:12,320 bills but that's the line that that 1523 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,280 would is that the line that that would 1524 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,120 have come out of yes okay I just wanted 1525 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:18,960 to make sure that we're still doing 1526 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,600 that yeah the question is do we have do 1527 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,120 we have enough money and I think I asked 1528 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,159 it's back here look at the today is 1529 01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,639 $56,000 and if all that was spent to 1530 01:18:31,639 --> 01:18:34,159 kind of the youth employment in City 1531 01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:37,280 Hall so we're talking about 1532 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,719 94,000 Sor so we're looking about 1533 01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:44,159 $94,000 of if we were to imply them back 1534 01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:47,960 at City Hall and the parks another 50 1535 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,840 $60,000 so we're looking at um you know 1536 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:55,040 $90,000 there available to help out out 1537 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,760 of 1538 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,679 business I don't think that's 1539 01:18:58,679 --> 01:19:01,320 enough I I was just wondering why we 1540 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,880 didn't spend the whole amount of money 1541 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,199 in other words what you're saying is the 1542 01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:07,719 county didn't didn't I know again I want 1543 01:19:07,719 --> 01:19:11,280 to say in the city some in the summer 1544 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,960 programs did 1545 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,719 not take off the way I thought they were 1546 01:19:15,719 --> 01:19:19,520 going to and could 1547 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,639 construction uh there may have been some 1548 01:19:22,639 --> 01:19:25,639 things that Chris L hired that have been 1549 01:19:25,639 --> 01:19:29,239 charged out of other accounts so that 1550 01:19:29,239 --> 01:19:31,280 number might 1551 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,080 be 1552 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,560 uh a little high in terms of what is 1553 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,080 actually there it's not significant 1554 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,480 might be 5,000 bucks 1555 01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:45,960 but go ahead um can Mr Farley bring me 1556 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,679 back to I think your first year of 1557 01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:50,320 council that was there were a whole 1558 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,480 bunch of students that you hired or not 1559 01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:56,960 you person on the city 2022 we did a was 1560 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,159 a partnership with the city and the 1561 01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:01,639 school district right so was the county 1562 01:20:01,639 --> 01:20:04,880 yes okay was this this line or no 1563 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,960 yes what did we do you recall what we 1564 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,440 spent that 1565 01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:14,860 year 1566 01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:17,199 [Music] 1567 01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:19,800 it 1568 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,120 14,2 they they really utilize that money 1569 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,000 that2 1570 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,080 yeah right and I think so initially um 1571 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,360 during cuz now you're kind of triggering 1572 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,199 my memory here that there was 1573 01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:35,440 conversation around whether uh the 1574 01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:37,840 county was the appropriate partner or 1575 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,560 something that we wanted to bring more 1576 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,000 inhouse so I don't know if that Dynamic 1577 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,159 shifted and which is why we would see 1578 01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:49,560 you know go from spending uh 140,000 1579 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,679 to to 50,000 so I don't know if that you 1580 01:20:52,679 --> 01:20:55,159 know that it was a promat programmatic 1581 01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:56,920 change that could have happened because 1582 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,960 are we do this year are we still 1583 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,719 partnering with the 1584 01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:03,960 county well then that that exp happened 1585 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,760 to our person who was 1586 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,360 running Park store yeah he had left will 1587 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:15,239 left don't happen since then that's what 1588 01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,159 happened to go ahead please well no I 1589 01:21:17,159 --> 01:21:19,719 think I mean I think um whether we leave 1590 01:21:19,719 --> 01:21:22,159 it at 150 or if we add more money I 1591 01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,000 think it's really valuable I mean I 1592 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,560 don't we never know whether actually 1593 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,320 youth um you know just again based on my 1594 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,920 when I was working but I mean sometimes 1595 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,800 we had trouble recruiting youth even 1596 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:34,760 through 1597 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,679 sjta um they sometimes have trouble um I 1598 01:21:38,679 --> 01:21:41,520 think right not anymore maybe maybe I 1599 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,639 mean this is I'm talking about when I 1600 01:21:42,639 --> 01:21:44,920 was working so so I mean but I mean I 1601 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,920 think it's a really valuable program I I 1602 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,040 really can't emphasize that enough so 1603 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,040 whether we stay at 150 or whether we add 1604 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,880 money but again if we add money we have 1605 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,520 to take money away from someplace else 1606 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,280 there is no doubt it's a very successful 1607 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,840 program and to to kind of like getting 1608 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,120 bu you out there into the into the 1609 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,840 working environment because if we can 1610 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,120 recall in 2022 when Dr zaka came here 1611 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,360 and did a presentation after the the 1612 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,920 work program and he was like telling us 1613 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,239 that these business were asking these 1614 01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:17,480 you to come back and to do parttime 1615 01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,120 because of the work ethics they were 1616 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:24,120 developing at a point in time those are things that you know hit you 1617 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,920 to see that that we continue to fund 1618 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,360 them and that's why I always ask and all 1619 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,960 of us none of us are asking to to get 1620 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,400 rid that we're asking to can help it but 1621 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,600 at the same time we need to spread it 1622 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,400 and utilize it so so I think there need 1623 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,840 to be a more a more broader partnership 1624 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,840 with the city the parks department City 1625 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,480 Hall parks department and the part of 1626 01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:47,840 business in um in the city yeah I think 1627 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,600 you definitely need to expand it beyond 1628 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,600 that um working for the cities want to 1629 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,040 focus on um working in the Parks depends 1630 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,280 on what you like I think there's so many 1631 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,199 other opportunities and so many other 1632 01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:01,320 industries that are emerging young 1633 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,520 people can gain skills and like you said 1634 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,840 if you had a business and you didn't 1635 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,400 have to pay somebody but you could they 1636 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,360 get training and then you get some extra 1637 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,760 help and like I said there's emerging 1638 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:10,840 things that young people are really 1639 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,840 interested in that um we have those 1640 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,639 companies yeah like I don't know does 1641 01:23:15,639 --> 01:23:17,639 anybody work in the it it Department 1642 01:23:17,639 --> 01:23:20,360 this year I think that would be a great 1643 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,239 place to 1644 01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:25,159 work we did not have 1645 01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:29,870 people worked in the 1646 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,440 it those are sensitive 1647 01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:34,480 Department we have to 1648 01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:37,199 have Cy security sensitive Department 1649 01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:40,400 you can't have parttime or or people who 1650 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:47,159 are inter there they St I think this is calling for a more discussion 1651 01:23:47,159 --> 01:23:51,639 and to bring in um players into this uh 1652 01:23:51,639 --> 01:23:52,719 to kind 1653 01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:56,679 of you know profile a u a plan how do we 1654 01:23:56,679 --> 01:23:59,920 um involve everybody funding was there 1655 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,280 funding is there next 1656 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,560 year I don't I don't think the funding 1657 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,520 is adequate that's what I'm saying as 1658 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:12,840 you see we didn't spent 150 no no so for clear because the money wasn't spent 1659 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,080 does not mean that the need is not there 1660 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,040 I would I would there lot of need we 1661 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,800 that I know absolutely so so the point 1662 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,760 of this process is as to we assess the 1663 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,679 need then we respond in kind and what 1664 01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:25,760 I'm suggesting and what I don't think we 1665 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,199 need uh even though I like collaboration 1666 01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:29,719 and partnership I don't think we need 1667 01:24:29,719 --> 01:24:31,159 other people to come in here to tell us 1668 01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:32,880 that our youth need uh greater 1669 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,080 investment in our youth um so I think 1670 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,560 that that's a pretty that's a simple 1671 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,560 position that I'm pretty confident in 1672 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:39,840 taking and saying I think that we need 1673 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,159 to respond and I think that we need to 1674 01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:44,800 uh boost that budget and and it seems 1675 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,040 like the mechanism has changed from 1676 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,320 having a partner with a broader reach 1677 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,920 and then that partner is no longer a 1678 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,520 part of it and I think that that would 1679 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,840 be reflect more of why we're at 1680 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,560 the number that we're at not the need of 1681 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,719 the youth kids need employment this is 1682 01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:02,159 actually to um and I definitely credit a 1683 01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:03,800 city council and the mayor for this this 1684 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,360 was the first time the city actually um 1685 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,719 this is usually a county thing um so 1686 01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:10,600 this the first time we did this was you 1687 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,280 know the city um taking some ownership 1688 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,320 in that process and I think that it was 1689 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,320 extremely successful and we could tell 1690 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,760 about the climate of our community these 1691 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,560 things are needed more and more so yeah 1692 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,360 I think it is a serious consideration I 1693 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,600 don't need I don't know that we need a 1694 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,840 whole bunch of 1695 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,320 uh further research to know that so I 1696 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,719 think that that's something that I'm 1697 01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:30,960 willing to look at and I think I welcome 1698 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,679 my colleagues to do so as 1699 01:25:32,679 --> 01:25:35,080 well and the evidence is there when we 1700 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,520 had the larger partnership back in 22 1701 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,440 that we spent almost all money so so and 1702 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,560 I back to broader discussion with all of 1703 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,080 us including the mayor to bring the 1704 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,960 players to the table and say 1705 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,440 okay we need to expand this we need to 1706 01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,280 utilize the funding whatever the number 1707 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,119 is and let's maximize it to benefit 1708 01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:56,960 the use okay we we're going to be able 1709 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,600 to do that before the budget no we don't 1710 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,119 can we pass the budget and then we bring 1711 01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:03,560 those and and then we set the me and you 1712 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,000 on the same page that's what I'm saying 1713 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,639 let's allocate the funds and then 1714 01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:08,159 programmatic 1715 01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:10,840 decisioning start implenting how do we 1716 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,840 move forward to spending yeah so how 1717 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,750 much are we 1718 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,960 allocating Council will we making those 1719 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,159 decisions right now or are we still 1720 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:21,560 going 1721 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,360 through did like how Anthony came back 1722 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,159 for the draft of whatever we had 1723 01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:28,159 suggested it's not something that we had 1724 01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:30,400 agreed on it suggested changes from the 1725 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,719 yesterday so something this where just 1726 01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:35,440 you know kind of like brainstorming and 1727 01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:37,600 trying to put some numbers against these 1728 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,719 lines to see where we are remember when 1729 01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:42,880 ask you have to take yes that's what 1730 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,440 saying that's what you did here it's 1731 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:47,800 more of a for us look that seems to be 1732 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,400 the case in every budget line right 1733 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,400 every l so this one's no different okay 1734 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,679 whatever you're taking out whatever 1735 01:26:52,679 --> 01:26:53,880 you're adding you have to take on 1736 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,000 something 1737 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,600 y we should ask do I do I have a do I 1738 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,199 have a suggested am like to see i' like 1739 01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:04,159 to see another $100,000 in that L what 1740 01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:06,239 are you I said I would like to see 1741 01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:08,840 another $100,000 in that L to make add 1742 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,360 to 250 1743 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,800 yep well at the same time you know we 1744 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,719 put you on the spot we need to look at 1745 01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:19,360 um where is a 1746 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,280 100,000 coming from but you know I'm 1747 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,560 just that 1748 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,960 you can go uh we have some work no no 1749 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,320 I'm with you I mean I just think that we 1750 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,880 every time we talk about adding that's 1751 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,239 the same formula we have to use right 1752 01:27:33,239 --> 01:27:35,520 I'm fully aware has to be an in and out 1753 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,639 fully aware you say that every time we 1754 01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:41,320 talk about soad please the lifeguards 1755 01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,960 are in a different place I just want to 1756 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,440 point that out so we do also hire youth 1757 01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:50,080 um um boys and girls that's a contract 1758 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,199 to the boys and 1759 01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:58,750 girls those are funding already going to 1760 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,480 say there's one also hired at the golf 1761 01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:06,520 course summer but I think so too this 1762 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,199 ER because Matt D was looking for sum 1763 01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:10,560 but again 1764 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,119 that wasn't charged out of this money 1765 01:28:13,119 --> 01:28:15,840 but it was kind of conceptually 1766 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,639 something that should have been there 1767 01:28:17,639 --> 01:28:20,080 you need to reappropriate those money 1768 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,080 you need to put them in the rightful um 1769 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:30,470 line 1770 01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:33,880 leave it in golf if it's in golf I agree 1771 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,440 but I think we're all it sounds to me 1772 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:37,000 like we're all in agreement that we want 1773 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,760 to support youth employment yeah so I 1774 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,840 just I think we can move on but so we're 1775 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,960 all in agreement with my 1776 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,920 $100,000 the whole thing first okay I'm 1777 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,719 just 1778 01:28:47,719 --> 01:28:51,040 one go ahead please so question all 1779 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,199 right all right we were talking about 1780 01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:55,400 potential and there's a probably good 1781 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:56,719 chance right some of the Opera money 1782 01:28:56,719 --> 01:28:58,719 will be coming back yeah and and we're 1783 01:28:58,719 --> 01:29:01,880 looking at changing up this program a 1784 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,560 bit right in the Partnerships so that 1785 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,320 would be a source excellent source and 1786 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,159 then see how we do for that year and 1787 01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:11,400 then fund it the following year if it 1788 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,440 goes well at that same amount I I I 1789 01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:17,080 think that's an excellent suggestion 1790 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,360 because if we take back money um from 1791 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,760 arer I believe that this would be a 1792 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,600 legitimate use of arur 1793 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,480 because we have I think yeah but I think 1794 01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:30,040 that all these prog all these program 1795 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,920 questions you 1796 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,840 know we can address after we pass a 1797 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,000 budget but um you know it's a it's a 1798 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,320 good suggestion but I think what was 1799 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,920 discussed um the last couple U meetings 1800 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,520 is that we it's funded by arpa currently 1801 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,280 so we're looking I made a suggestion to 1802 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,080 fund it permanently in the budget next 1803 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,800 year because our is going away so next 1804 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,360 year we would not be with the blue line 1805 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,320 it will be coming out directly from the 1806 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,560 general fund for thisth employment BL 1807 01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,560 line so what 1808 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,360 I we an agreement to what 1809 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,639 250,000 it will have to be per meance in 1810 01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:14,119 the budget funding from general fund 1811 01:30:14,119 --> 01:30:15,800 again and I know you guys get sick of me 1812 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:22,040 putting on my fundraising hat but nobody anybody in any case this is 1813 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,239 something when we look at overall we 1814 01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:25,239 finished going through all these 1815 01:30:25,239 --> 01:30:27,520 questions but I mean again it would be a 1816 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,960 staff not us but um you know I think 1817 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,040 there's ways to raise money um to make 1818 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,800 up some of that money as well for for 1819 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,719 something like that I could see that we 1820 01:30:37,719 --> 01:30:40,199 might have businesses or whatever that 1821 01:30:40,199 --> 01:30:42,800 might make donations into a fund that 1822 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,760 was funding empy that's a good because 1823 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,639 if we're if we're if we're sending 1824 01:30:47,639 --> 01:30:49,560 employment parttime employment to them 1825 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,239 at some point in time they can make a 1826 01:30:51,239 --> 01:30:55,159 donation toward a program or 1827 01:30:55,159 --> 01:30:59,239 y see coming in good keep that 1828 01:30:59,239 --> 01:31:02,679 hot half the salary another thing that 1829 01:31:02,679 --> 01:31:04,679 is that we have to look at is that how 1830 01:31:04,679 --> 01:31:07,119 does this impact you know and drive down 1831 01:31:07,119 --> 01:31:09,280 cost in other areas once you have youth 1832 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,360 with less idle time um yes and that and 1833 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:13,480 that's and the other point that we want 1834 01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:16,040 to consider is that that money that's um 1835 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,800 going into youth is likely going to 1836 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,800 recirculate within our local economy so 1837 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,080 there's a couple variables that we have 1838 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,119 to really consider when we're making 1839 01:31:22,119 --> 01:31:24,679 that decision good those new points I 1840 01:31:24,679 --> 01:31:26,320 think my $100,000 suggestion was a 1841 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,350 little low so we'll revisit that we get 1842 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,600 there a little little low on that 1843 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,080 actually 1844 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:40,199 so okay it is noted we have notes umy um 1845 01:31:40,199 --> 01:31:43,600 we're taking notes of these um suggested 1846 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,320 numbers 1847 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,520 sest we're not asking for change the 1848 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,840 point time just to kind of like put that 1849 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:51,679 on 1850 01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:54,639 paper now 1851 01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:58,119 the next one is um Revenue a213 1852 01:31:58,119 --> 01:32:01,360 D I spoke to Paul about these he says 1853 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,719 the city we in negotiations with the 1854 01:32:03,719 --> 01:32:06,080 towns 1855 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,360 of 1856 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,000 [Music] 1857 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,199 Miss scoa and 1858 01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:16,000 Scotia so not we are in negotiations 1859 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,639 right now with those for water 1860 01:32:18,639 --> 01:32:20,239 and 1861 01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:24,119 okay and not sure we actually open negot 1862 01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:27,440 yeah I don't think we discuss this in um 1863 01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:30,320 session so if there's more if there's if 1864 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,800 there if we need to elaborate on this I 1865 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,520 think we need to at the 1866 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,600 end yeah we need to go in executive 1867 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,360 session and conclude 1868 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,719 um Mr Willi would you like more 1869 01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:44,920 discussion on this as to where they 1870 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,840 are we 1871 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,880 canate okay so we'll we'll then do that 1872 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,159 like we did last night and then go and 1873 01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:54,360 you will 1874 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:55,800 we'll get some more information the next 1875 01:32:55,800 --> 01:33:00,639 one is um Gulf CR 2025 M right before I 1876 01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:03,400 came to the meeting Matt sent me a 1877 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,040 message did i s was I can't remember no 1878 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,400 but I you said the breakdown membership 1879 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,280 is 50% of City residents and 50% 1880 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,159 nonresidents on seasonal membership um 1881 01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:21,280 and he also says uh the 1882 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,760 rounds 22,000 rounds for non 1883 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:29,550 residents 6,000 rounds from 1884 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,239 residents 1885 01:33:31,239 --> 01:33:34,360 that regular rounds whole starts for the 1886 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,080 season 9 18 whole rounds over 1887 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,400 overwhelming non-resident with 1888 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,119 approximately 22,000 rounds coming from 1889 01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:44,119 non-residents Ando 6,000 coming from 1890 01:33:44,119 --> 01:33:53,990 residents 1891 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,360 you says you have 1892 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,560 that can you share that I will pass it 1893 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,679 on to it was just when I was leaving to 1894 01:34:00,679 --> 01:34:04,500 members 1895 01:34:04,510 --> 01:34:05,960 [Music] 1896 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,440 yeah don't that's I think that's all 1897 01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:10,800 your question 1898 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,199 U we didn't miss 1899 01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:16,400 anything uh I know for this question 1900 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,840 specifically those so deling a little 1901 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,480 deeper I know I'm not necessarily a 1902 01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:21,719 golfer but trying to identify other 1903 01:34:21,719 --> 01:34:23,480 segments in the community to see if we 1904 01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:26,159 can boost membership uh or see if there 1905 01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:28,679 are other concerned efforts we can make 1906 01:34:28,679 --> 01:34:31,040 you can contribute a significant amount 1907 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,920 of arpa dollars to 1908 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,320 this one area of the city um and I think 1909 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,760 trying to look or evaluate ways to 1910 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:40,920 increase partnership from our local 1911 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,560 residents is important but without that 1912 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,719 uh truth data that Mr Farley always 1913 01:34:45,719 --> 01:34:47,760 highlights we might not be aware of any 1914 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,360 additional efforts we need to make to 1915 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,639 entice some of the 1916 01:34:51,639 --> 01:34:55,080 communities I will say kids on a on the 1917 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,920 golf course uh with uh uh shout out to 1918 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,480 Brian Le better he's had a group of 1919 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,400 young men um who actually is a golf team 1920 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,639 now um and it's it was really really 1921 01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:09,119 interesting and really great to see so 1922 01:35:09,119 --> 01:35:10,920 but yes we would like to I agree with 1923 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,159 you Mr Williams that's something we want 1924 01:35:12,159 --> 01:35:16,199 to increase Mr yeah just that school 1925 01:35:16,199 --> 01:35:19,719 district did not have a golf team is now 1926 01:35:19,719 --> 01:35:24,280 reconstituted it uh and I tried to hire 1927 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,280 one of the 1928 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,920 kids now my m is coming back for the 1929 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,600 golf course and he had 1930 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,199 other uh opportunities so it's 1931 01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:37,480 nothing it's all good but just that is 1932 01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:39,960 how do you get people uh taking 1933 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,440 advantage of you know whether it's the 1934 01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:44,280 golf course the swimming pool the a 1935 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:48,960 diamond uh basketball courts the amities 1936 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,719 that we have within the city so that uh 1937 01:35:51,719 --> 01:35:54,400 and they can uh hopefully turn it into 1938 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,440 lifetime Pursuits 1939 01:35:57,440 --> 01:35:59,719 yeah I mean this is something that we 1940 01:35:59,719 --> 01:36:02,760 can have on M back at some point in time 1941 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,719 a committee meeting to talk about that U 1942 01:36:05,719 --> 01:36:07,480 this good points that you're you're 1943 01:36:07,480 --> 01:36:09,360 bringing up there and I think they do 1944 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,360 come for every year to kind of like look 1945 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,520 at fees almost every year as as they 1946 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,040 been here and they will come and they 1947 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,719 will suggest that we increase the fee at 1948 01:36:17,719 --> 01:36:19,199 the same time tell us you know what's 1949 01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:21,440 happening over there and their your 1950 01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:25,390 competitors 1951 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,320 we can 1952 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,560 talk not talking about playing all I was 1953 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,080 supposed to play today but never made it 1954 01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:36,320 but anyway um we had a pretty hefty uh P 1955 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,159 increase uh for season passes I think 1956 01:36:39,159 --> 01:36:42,119 two years ago um which affected I think 1957 01:36:42,119 --> 01:36:44,639 a lot of our residents so um as far as 1958 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:47,440 the fee pce but I'm just so proud of our 1959 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,679 course and what we have to offer that 1960 01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:53,159 22,000 nonresidents are coming to play 1961 01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:55,719 um and 1962 01:36:55,719 --> 01:36:58,880 um as far as putting amount the amount 1963 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,040 of resources we did into into this 1964 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,199 course the the 3 million for irrigation 1965 01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:05,360 which will only I think improve 1966 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,000 residents and non-residents and light 1967 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,440 coming in but we've also spent a whole 1968 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:10,880 lot of money in different parts of the 1969 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,840 city um where you know there's not much 1970 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,199 revenue that comes in from there so 1971 01:37:16,199 --> 01:37:19,360 again I think it was a huge asset of 1972 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,679 what we put in there and I'm proud of 1973 01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:24,119 what the city's done what we've done and 1974 01:37:24,119 --> 01:37:26,080 it will continue I think to be a big 1975 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,360 very large Revenue Source moving forward 1976 01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,080 so thank you I would throw out to the 1977 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,239 council ceremonial role mayor is opening 1978 01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:37,239 the golf course I drive up the first and 1979 01:37:37,239 --> 01:37:41,800 have been challenged by of 1980 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,520 Team generally the mayor doesn't do too 1981 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,199 well and so I would open that up 1982 01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:51,960 to challenge the city council when we 1983 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,760 open it up and we can all 1984 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,639 [Music] 1985 01:37:55,639 --> 01:37:58,159 we all have our strengths that is not 1986 01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:01,080 one of mine that is not one of 1987 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,920 mine we will we will take our our 1988 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,679 training 1989 01:38:05,679 --> 01:38:08,040 lessons I will I will come and laugh at 1990 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:09,320 you guys when the kids kick your butt 1991 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,679 but I will not they do I will not 1992 01:38:12,679 --> 01:38:14,560 participate well I just want to say I 1993 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,119 mean again I am not a golfer as Mr 1994 01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:19,360 William said but it's just you know I 1995 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,199 spend a lot of time talking with Matt 1996 01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:22,360 and just because my health and 1997 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,440 Recreation role here but um it's an 1998 01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:27,599 amazing course I have so many friends 1999 01:38:27,599 --> 01:38:30,000 that are golfers who just talk again I 2000 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,320 can't speak for myself but you know that 2001 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,000 it's such an excellent course that it 2002 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,480 Rivals private private clubs so I just 2003 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,880 think Matt does you know an amazing job 2004 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,760 and I also want to say we have a really 2005 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,719 active golf advisory committee as well 2006 01:38:43,719 --> 01:38:46,480 and they are very committed to the to to 2007 01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,080 the course and they you know they're 2008 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,880 just a really active group of volunteers 2009 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,199 as well no I just so add to that I the 2010 01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:54,840 golf we have invest a lot of money into 2011 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,920 the parks and I mean yeah aggressive 2012 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,000 approach from the mayor from us on you 2013 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,880 know the department so all of part 2014 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,280 seeing a lot of investment and they're 2015 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:05,920 generating Revenue to because people are 2016 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,159 paying fees uh you know for certain 2017 01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:11,760 things to to use the facility so all 2018 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,520 these things are you know coming into 2019 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,800 place and development are happening 2020 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,920 across the city in terms of facility 2021 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,159 that people can 2022 01:39:19,159 --> 01:39:22,520 use and um you know benefit from and at 2023 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:23,760 the same time we Genera take some 2024 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,320 Revenue to help offset cost I just want 2025 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,760 to clarify so um are you saying that Mr 2026 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,320 Charo that that the fee increase was 2027 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,159 prohibited for some residents you felt 2028 01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:36,480 like we had a drop off there I I I 2029 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:39,159 seriously do I do um I don't I think it 2030 01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:44,159 if it was huge not huge I'm sorry don't 2031 01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:47,599 say and I think 2032 01:39:47,599 --> 01:39:51,679 doubled well let's be clear it's not the 2033 01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:55,159 fee to play Just Around golf it is the 2034 01:39:55,159 --> 01:40:00,639 season pass and I will tell you that is one of the best 2035 01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:03,480 values in the capital region yeah that 2036 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:06,239 was yeah so I was I was about to say 2037 01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:07,920 that because when Matt came to us he was 2038 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,119 saying that our fee is regardless of him 2039 01:40:10,119 --> 01:40:12,679 raising it up it's still below our 2040 01:40:12,679 --> 01:40:14,639 competitors around the capital region 2041 01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:18,880 and we offer more the best 2042 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,800 facility it it was a season pass and I I 2043 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,520 do know quite a few people reached out 2044 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,639 to me that they had to drop their season 2045 01:40:25,639 --> 01:40:27,960 pass membership they they could go out 2046 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:28,639 and 2047 01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:31,080 play four times a day if they want it 2048 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,920 365 days year of course was open but 2049 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,560 some of them are there 2050 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,880 36 they get their money's worth but it 2051 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:43,390 was it was quite an investment too a 2052 01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,480 lot there's it's a good point and I 2053 01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:48,440 don't know the number what is it 2054 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:52,320 $1,500 yeah yeah so pay $1,500 and then 2055 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,639 you can basically play whenever you 2056 01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:57,760 want as opposed to going up and paying 2057 01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,760 for the the 18 holes I and I think it 2058 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,920 was maybe 800 2059 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,599 prior so it was but we approved it so 2060 01:41:07,599 --> 01:41:10,880 yeah so I think when mat is back I'm 2061 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,520 sure he's going to be back here next 2062 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,760 year before us we can we can raise these 2063 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,880 um the conversation with him to talk 2064 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,560 about um you 2065 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,639 know the raises of would affect the 2066 01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:26,679 usage because I don't I don't have that 2067 01:41:26,679 --> 01:41:29,920 chart with me now but I mean even and 2068 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,960 again my my golf knowledge is limited 2069 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,000 but um I hear what M Doro is saying but 2070 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,800 I know that the other fees go up very minimally um when when Matt comes 2071 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,840 to US every year well and I think if I 2072 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,599 can speak I mean for myself maybe I mean 2073 01:41:45,599 --> 01:41:49,320 we trust him with his AB we should and 2074 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,199 he he's out there he's a pro so that's 2075 01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:52,400 what kind of like you know what he's 2076 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,440 bringing this to us he asking this he's 2077 01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:56,880 giving us comparison at that point in 2078 01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,080 time to show that hey what's happening 2079 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,960 out there in Colony and Leon here we and 2080 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,960 we're still under and I I do think I'm 2081 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,599 sorry but I just want to say I mean 2082 01:42:06,599 --> 01:42:08,080 again for the last few years I've been 2083 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,760 talking with him about the whole getting 2084 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,719 more youth out there so the idea that 2085 01:42:11,719 --> 01:42:15,040 the school has um reinstituted you're 2086 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,840 saying a golf team is awesome I mean 2087 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,320 that'll be really uh great 2088 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,199 for for all of us I mean and I think as 2089 01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:25,280 mayor said it if they get into a 2090 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,199 lifetime habit um it's a good thing the 2091 01:42:28,199 --> 01:42:31,440 mayor will get his um inter this year 2092 01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,639 next year an inter to do the first golf 2093 01:42:33,639 --> 01:42:34,960 shot for 2094 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:39,440 him yeah but I I I guess I think what 2095 01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:42,960 that kind of hike in the feed was more 2096 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,119 responsive to the fact that they hadn't 2097 01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:51,960 been raised consistently so I think at a consistent rate to be consistent 2098 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,679 with the other municipalities to have 2099 01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:55,400 cuz when he came and presented he said 2100 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,280 hey we're still way below so I think 2101 01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,040 what some of that what you might 2102 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,440 experience is a little bit of ticket the 2103 01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:06,320 ticket shop right of wow and then maybe 2104 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,560 after that because you know once you 2105 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:08,520 once you're getting something at a 2106 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,320 certain value even if if it doubles even 2107 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:12,920 if you're still getting it as you know 2108 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,880 even if it's still a far greater value 2109 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,360 you could you can experience a little 2110 01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,440 bit of ticket shot but I think that 2111 01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:20,159 that's something that will you know kind 2112 01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:22,520 of self-correct people start to come 2113 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:23,960 back 2114 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,080 goe Mr chair and the problem that's Evol 2115 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,239 the golf course is just what Mr Fry's 2116 01:43:31,239 --> 01:43:34,159 talking about is you cannot get a tea 2117 01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:37,920 timee the demand is there so that people 2118 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,199 are lining up and so we raised the 2119 01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:44,360 prices on some of that to again level it 2120 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,239 out so in fact people could play and 2121 01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:50,280 enjoy it having said that there's still 2122 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,679 times on like Sunday afternoon and other 2123 01:43:52,679 --> 01:43:55,599 times when utilization is very low we've 2124 01:43:55,599 --> 01:43:58,239 talked about it before uh that's 2125 01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:00,040 specifically this Council but 2126 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,719 historically is how do you get people to 2127 01:44:03,719 --> 01:44:06,920 uh come in on the Sunday afternoon later 2128 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,320 on some of the other afternoons where 2129 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,040 it's 2130 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,440 slow to take advantage of the investment 2131 01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:15,080 that we've made be able to have a good 2132 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,599 time and uh maybe play golf when they 2133 01:44:18,599 --> 01:44:21,480 wouldn't otherwise play bring people 2134 01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:23,960 in uh for the experience where they 2135 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:28,040 could uh learn Golf and take it up as a 2136 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:32,400 continual activity going forward I 2137 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,360 20% I'll just listen people advertise 2138 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,709 free golf hot dogs 2139 01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:43,599 $39 I mean it gets you in 2140 01:44:43,599 --> 01:44:46,920 there anyway there's lots of different 2141 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,470 there thank you 2142 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:53,560 yeah well this is this was interesting 2143 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,040 yeah so we we can we can address that 2144 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,320 mat before here or if we need to bring 2145 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:04,400 him in ear you know we can Parks sh Elon 2146 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,920 W sh to bring m m you know 2147 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,560 yeah if we need 2148 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:15,520 to before he comes us suggested um 2149 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,599 Revenue increase next year because he 2150 01:45:17,599 --> 01:45:19,840 does he does that all the 2151 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,599 year any other question on this so 2152 01:45:22,599 --> 01:45:24,599 Anthony what I would ask take away from 2153 01:45:24,599 --> 01:45:26,880 this is that um we can't do an in and 2154 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:32,360 out of this but if you can just create a seure to show what it was CA 2155 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,560 associated with the 2156 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,280 recommendation the associate cost but 2157 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:48,149 not not in out just a cost 2158 01:45:48,159 --> 01:45:52,320 yes there is a backup in here is this um 2159 01:45:52,320 --> 01:46:05,040 Accord to Mr continency $20,000 20,000 so there's 2160 01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,400 no need to discuss that what is that 2161 01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,080 what is remember that was where they 2162 01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,840 were going to take the money 2163 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,599 from from the the police money and but 2164 01:46:15,599 --> 01:46:19,599 now it's coming out the contingency the 2165 01:46:19,599 --> 01:46:22,119 planting there there is a suggestion on 2166 01:46:22,119 --> 01:46:23,840 the table to take out the 2167 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,159 frency so that's and I'm I'm fine with 2168 01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:37,310 that okay so yes okay all 2169 01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,159 right are we missing any questions from 2170 01:46:40,159 --> 01:46:42,119 last night are we missing any stuff from 2171 01:46:42,119 --> 01:46:43,599 last I thought we had a couple we didn't 2172 01:46:43,599 --> 01:46:46,040 go over all these yet have we did we go 2173 01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:47,880 over these three pieces that we had in 2174 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,239 our packet when we got 2175 01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:54,750 here yes 2176 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,280 yeah this is the one I talk about the um 2177 01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:03,990 on the presentation but the 2178 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,760 um this is the one with the um the fee 2179 01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,159 excessive W fee I asked if I wor 2180 01:47:09,159 --> 01:47:12,560 knowledge Ming forward to move that um 2181 01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,320 hopefully calling for public hearing if 2182 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,880 council is an agreement we'll call for 2183 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,320 the public hearing and move for this one 2184 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:22,119 here is the um new program I asked for 2185 01:47:22,119 --> 01:47:24,000 year to the 2186 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,599 okay 2187 01:47:25,599 --> 01:47:27,719 actual no I just wanted to make sure we 2188 01:47:27,719 --> 01:47:32,470 recover yes you 2189 01:47:32,480 --> 01:47:36,599 did there's no on sorry it's confusing 2190 01:47:36,599 --> 01:47:40,990 it printed on um both 2191 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:55,229 sides we got the 2192 01:47:55,239 --> 01:47:59,040 and we did address the um the AR reports 2193 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,159 but the outstanding um that we had from 2194 01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:07,589 last 2195 01:48:07,599 --> 01:48:10,150 evening all right 2196 01:48:10,150 --> 01:48:36,589 [Music] 2197 01:48:36,599 --> 01:48:38,840 are there any other questions uh need to 2198 01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,760 be submitted to to Anthony or any 2199 01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,360 department 2200 01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,760 head I like if we can wrap up all the um 2201 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,679 no no hard feelings but I would like to 2202 01:48:50,679 --> 01:48:53,320 wrap up all the questions and if we have 2203 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,159 any please submitted so we can get 2204 01:48:55,159 --> 01:48:57,599 answer because um at some point time we 2205 01:48:57,599 --> 01:48:59,560 going to have to 2206 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,159 like cut out the questions and and start 2207 01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:05,720 move in the direction of uh 2208 01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,119 [Music] 2209 01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:09,239 conclusion so please if you have any 2210 01:49:09,239 --> 01:49:11,800 question please ask now or submit it um 2211 01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,000 this 2212 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,880 evening um I would really appreciate 2213 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:19,400 because um I would like us start move in 2214 01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:26,830 a to arrive at a conclusion 2215 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,920 and again please reach out to the mayor 2216 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,360 please reach out to Anthony if you have 2217 01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,960 any questions any concerns any 2218 01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,520 recommendation make sure you send oh 2219 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,870 sorry 2220 01:49:39,870 --> 01:49:41,320 [Music] 2221 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,360 I yeah please copy Derek also and 2222 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:50,560 Anthony copy the mayor so you know I we want you to ask question we want you 2223 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,000 to get answered and I 2224 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,800 am I 2225 01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,679 am hoping that all the questions have 2226 01:49:59,679 --> 01:50:01,400 been answered and if there's anything 2227 01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,920 outstanding we can answer tomorrow and 2228 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,760 I'm hoping that we can deliver it 2229 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,400 tomorrow for a 2230 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:13,320 conclusion I think we can do that we I 2231 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,560 don't see a point at this time um any 2232 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,800 question outstanding or any any hot 2233 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,400 topic that is the 2234 01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,960 table that needs to be addressed if 2235 01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:24,560 there's anything that I'm missing please 2236 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:25,679 let me 2237 01:50:25,679 --> 01:50:28,480 know go ahead I guess um just in terms 2238 01:50:28,480 --> 01:50:30,159 of prepping for tomorrow night if 2239 01:50:30,159 --> 01:50:31,920 there's anything that people feel like 2240 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,920 they're going to raise that might be 2241 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,760 items that we might need to debate it 2242 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,360 would be good to have sort of heads up 2243 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,599 on that so we can think about that so I 2244 01:50:40,599 --> 01:50:43,040 mean we we really haven't talked at all 2245 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,440 about about that so I want use that 2246 01:50:46,440 --> 01:50:50,079 word well you know want to want yes 2247 01:50:50,079 --> 01:50:52,119 thank you we want to discuss it friendly 2248 01:50:52,119 --> 01:50:54,560 discussion not debate we we going to 2249 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,119 change the way how we do things so we 2250 01:50:57,119 --> 01:50:59,119 have friendly discussion so yes and 2251 01:50:59,119 --> 01:51:01,560 thank you for that if you you know go 2252 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,679 back after this tonight tomorrow morning 2253 01:51:03,679 --> 01:51:05,560 during the day please reach out with 2254 01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,599 your recommendation if you want to see 2255 01:51:08,599 --> 01:51:11,719 you know like just use um the money 2256 01:51:11,719 --> 01:51:14,440 $250,000 300,000 yeah 2257 01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:17,400 know you're not allow 2258 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,360 I I'm just making a suggestion you're 2259 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,320 making a suggestion of 250,000 2260 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,480 guide help us to where do we take that 2261 01:51:25,480 --> 01:51:27,440 off from sure where do we do we increase 2262 01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:29,119 Revenue do we take it out the line make 2263 01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:31,639 a suggestion so that way helps anony it 2264 01:51:31,639 --> 01:51:33,119 help us to move and that's a 2265 01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:35,840 recommendation that would avoid a LLY 2266 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,639 discussion as to back and forth sure 2267 01:51:37,639 --> 01:51:40,000 thing so come up with that everybody I'm 2268 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,199 just using an example anybody else 2269 01:51:42,199 --> 01:51:44,079 myself to include it if I'm going to 2270 01:51:44,079 --> 01:51:46,159 make a recommendation to say that I 2271 01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,800 think that we should increase XYZ I need 2272 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,400 to come up with a plan where do we take 2273 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,360 it from we cannot uh suggestion on the 2274 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,560 table with yesterday's uh 2275 01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,920 recommendation Anthony came came back 2276 01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:59,199 with a 2277 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,119 suggestion 2278 01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:03,320 contingency now we have to be careful 2279 01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:07,229 our actual to date is 2280 01:52:07,239 --> 01:52:10,760 332,000 and if you're dropping up to 20 2281 01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,599 that's that's a little dangerous so we 2282 01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:16,639 need to we need to at a point you know 2283 01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:20,599 bring that to the table and say is that 2284 01:52:20,599 --> 01:52:23,560 realistic to me no no that's not 2285 01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,880 realistic because our contingency needs 2286 01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,360 to stay at that point in time for fire 2287 01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,639 it happen all the time we can avoid it 2288 01:52:31,639 --> 01:52:33,719 we have to do emergency demo they need 2289 01:52:33,719 --> 01:52:37,470 funding on that line to help with 2290 01:52:37,480 --> 01:52:39,800 that if you want to add something you 2291 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:44,589 have to take that's 2292 01:52:44,599 --> 01:52:51,229 what today 2293 01:52:51,239 --> 01:52:53,560 take back 2294 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,040 yeah not only not only take it out if we 2295 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:57,360 suggesting to take it out of certain 2296 01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,679 lines we have to be you know we 2297 01:52:58,679 --> 01:53:00,599 realistic and at the same time we're 2298 01:53:00,599 --> 01:53:03,000 look at if you want to increase Revenue 2299 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:04,239 you know those are suggestion that we 2300 01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:05,280 need to bring 2301 01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,480 tomorrow no question Anthony what do we 2302 01:53:07,480 --> 01:53:11,119 have to do if we add something you clear 2303 01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:13,679 that okay got it got 2304 01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:17,760 it we know that okay got me to follow an 2305 01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:19,119 email for you yeah please if you would 2306 01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:24,159 mind help me a little bit Y show me them 2307 01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:26,840 some so please all of us including 2308 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,159 myself recommendation as to how we move 2309 01:53:29,159 --> 01:53:32,159 forward and conclude tomorrow so if you 2310 01:53:32,159 --> 01:53:34,239 can subit that ahead of time that will 2311 01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:37,400 be very very helpful so Anthony can um 2312 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:41,840 bring um suggestion and the cost 2313 01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,920 associated with your suggestion so we 2314 01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,480 need so before tomorrow night's meeting 2315 01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:48,599 will we have an update on the changes 2316 01:53:48,599 --> 01:53:50,400 that have been at least sort of 2317 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,199 suggested I know we got this right so 2318 01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:57,800 yes this is it just cost analysis on 2319 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,040 this you're just looking for cost analis 2320 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:06,199 oh no no no no no this is just yes but if we can get it ahead of time at 2321 01:54:06,199 --> 01:54:07,599 least we'd have time to think about it 2322 01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:09,199 before we come to the table just I guess 2323 01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:11,159 I'm just trying to avoid any shocking 2324 01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:13,800 kinds of things that when we come to the 2325 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,760 table I'd rather have good point if we 2326 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,440 can do this tomorrow morning you should 2327 01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:20,400 share with us morning so that to the 2328 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,639 counil so we have this here at this as 2329 01:54:23,639 --> 01:54:25,679 another proposal the one that we 2330 01:54:25,679 --> 01:54:28,159 received today versus this one 2331 01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:30,679 tomorrow 2332 01:54:30,679 --> 01:54:33,000 yeah submit your proposal if you don't 2333 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,000 want to submit it please call the mayor 2334 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,199 call Anthony discuss have a you know 2335 01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:41,880 your free have open open phone 2336 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,639 conversation with the mayor with Anthony 2337 01:54:44,639 --> 01:54:47,079 dere you may not want to P in an email 2338 01:54:47,079 --> 01:54:48,840 please make phone 2339 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,320 calls I'll call you 2340 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,639 here make phone calls and come to the 2341 01:54:53,639 --> 01:54:56,119 table with you know with um with an 2342 01:54:56,119 --> 01:55:00,069 understanding of how we uh move 2343 01:55:00,079 --> 01:55:02,040 forward if you want to talk about the 2344 01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,599 arpa and the reallocation that we didn't 2345 01:55:04,599 --> 01:55:06,960 touch on talk about it openly see where 2346 01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,400 we are we have we have you know some 2347 01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,040 agency that not not off the par what do 2348 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,079 we do there you brought up a good point 2349 01:55:14,079 --> 01:55:16,920 earlier you know should we consider this 2350 01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,239 into this budget that's that's open 2351 01:55:19,239 --> 01:55:21,679 question but but it was my understanding 2352 01:55:21,679 --> 01:55:23,199 from when this Carver was here that we 2353 01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:26,320 can't consider it into the budget right 2354 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,320 is that what I heard or that's we only 2355 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,840 are looking at those four things no 2356 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,679 that's already in the budget to bance a 2357 01:55:33,679 --> 01:55:37,480 budget we can an out that okay so we can 2358 01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,920 still funding from other pieces if we 2359 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:42,880 were to make any adjustment on those 2360 01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,679 four recommendation on the Aral line we 2361 01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:47,199 would have to find other source of 2362 01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:50,679 income Revenue to offset that now we 2363 01:55:50,679 --> 01:55:52,760 were talking about earlier there that 2364 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,360 we're talking about that we're steering 2365 01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,159 down and that's what you made some 2366 01:55:58,159 --> 01:55:59,520 reference towards it and that's what 2367 01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,360 kind of like brought it on 2368 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,760 that but if we if we if we're talking 2369 01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,079 about that I think that we should aim 2370 01:56:06,079 --> 01:56:08,560 our the aimed at City things within the 2371 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,199 city yes and and I don't mean salary so 2372 01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:14,159 I mean other projects like the parks 2373 01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:15,800 things in the Parks whatever else needs 2374 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,239 to be done 100,000 what you're saying so 2375 01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:20,119 if we take other funds from other 2376 01:56:20,119 --> 01:56:22,719 agencies 2377 01:56:22,719 --> 01:56:24,159 it's not going to 2378 01:56:24,159 --> 01:56:27,320 ouren is going to be remain in house go 2379 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,639 offet um some of the we just talked 2380 01:56:29,639 --> 01:56:32,910 about exactly 2381 01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,800 yes I think that's that's that's what I 2382 01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,079 was thinking when I was going over 2383 01:56:37,079 --> 01:56:41,310 everything today so 2384 01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:45,199 yeah so we have our homework tonight and 2385 01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:49,079 into tomorrow uh tomorrow evening and 2386 01:56:49,079 --> 01:56:51,400 Anthony will provide that um cause 2387 01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,719 breakdown for us 2388 01:56:53,719 --> 01:56:58,119 and do we have anything else 2389 01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:02,360 Joe no I think we have much so we'll 2390 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,320 just we'll just um we'll just U go into 2391 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,679 executive session we'll deal with u the 2392 01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:11,119 revenue um the three items and then 2393 01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:13,119 we'll break until tomorrow oh we're 2394 01:57:13,119 --> 01:57:15,400 going into s yeah so I just need a 2395 01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,320 motion to go into executive 2396 01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,400 session motion more 2397 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,679 clear ex session 2398 01:57:22,679 --> 01:57:28,159 it's um there three items a 2130b FX 2399 01:57:28,159 --> 01:57:31,040 2140b and G 2400 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:35,480 21 outside contract 2401 01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:36,560 negotiation 2402 01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:37,679 [Music] 2403 01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:43,350 MP okay that is pending 2404 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,239 and 2405 01:57:45,239 --> 01:57:48,639 tomor I'll make a motion second all in 2406 01:57:48,639 --> 01:57:51,119 favor we're in executive session make a 2407 01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:52,760 motion 2408 01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,360 me too not 2409 01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,620 allow 2410 01:57:57,630 --> 01:58:02,030 [Music] 2411 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:03,880 okay I 2412 01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,990 also I had Larry 2413 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,239 speak in case anybody's interested I 2414 01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:12,520 only have four copies but part of the 2415 01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,159 budget oh no not for the budget I just 2416 01:58:15,159 --> 01:58:21,109 in case anybody 2417 01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:51,030 want 2418 01:58:51,040 --> 01:59:21,030 for 2419 01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:51,030 e 2420 01:59:51,040 --> 02:00:50,910 for 2421 02:00:50,920 --> 02:03:50,709 e 2422 02:03:50,719 --> 02:04:20,709 for 2423 02:04:20,719 --> 02:09:20,350 e 2424 02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:50,310 for 2425 02:09:50,320 --> 02:11:20,229 e 2426 02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:50,229 for 2427 02:11:50,239 --> 02:18:19,750 e 2428 02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:49,709 for 2429 02:18:49,719 --> 02:19:49,630 e 2430 02:19:49,640 --> 02:20:19,630 for 2431 02:20:19,640 --> 02:30:48,910 e 2432 02:30:48,920 --> 02:31:18,910 for 2433 02:31:18,920 --> 02:33:52,760 e for