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yes so to conclude with the um

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program and also the um the revenue line

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of the delinquent violation fee in terms

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recommendations so you should have on um

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cop that one this copy here should have

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items and then this one here is the

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course recommendation that we went

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and the entire council is an agreement

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uh at the recomend uh Chang it to what

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recommended and five ccil member are in

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agreement part as we hold this until we

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line and here we are in terms of

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discussing that discussing the um the

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revenue on the delinquent um parking

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violation and then there's one item I

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want to add in terms of the mayor's um

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increase and to discuss that so we'll go back and the started discussion

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the you service and the the Hot Topic is

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funding source yeah some of us um is not

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in agreement in terms of taking that

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whatever is been recommended out of the

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and we're asking to hold that and wait

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table by majority was to keep it at 150

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as is and then revisit

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it so I'm opening for discussion on

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that okay well being it that was my

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recommendation Mr chairman so so I would

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I think that the council is seems to be

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in agreeance around increasing that on

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youth budget line uh I guess

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the topic of the discussion is whether

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it comes out of the general front we

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wait until we retrieve some of the arpa

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money and go that route and

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reluctantly okay with the latter I guess

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what I would need from the council from

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each member of the council would be that

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we could agree that the first $150

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$150,000 of ARA funds that that um comes

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back into the city um we would uh that

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would be the first use of it um and I

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guess if I could get that um commitment

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from Council Members then I would feel

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comfortable go ahead please do you mean

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majority of us have mentioned on Friday

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this line it's an important line that we

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agreement to revisit that

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funds and that should happen in the next

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couple weeks sure yeah so what I again

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150 um should be prioritized for this

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line and if that if I could get the

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council members to agree to that then I

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concerns about now versus that but that

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the year um I would certainly support

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it I'm going agreement with it I am I'm

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on board as I state to Friday I'm on

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board with it because it's service we

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need to provide and

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expand I'm on board for revisiting it

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um I can't say that I guarantee when that money comes back to the first

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$150,000 can it be appropriated to this

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money there but I I I don't want to say

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right now that you know I would

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guarantee that that would happen on my

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part yes so we'll we'll revisit that at

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that point in time so we'll put that on

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until then funding increase of funding

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appreciate but you're saying I just

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don't want it you know I I hope that you

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know we we just honor our words here

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all so have that Mark as something to to

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look at when we are addressing the on

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fun that has going come back to us the

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other I just remember that you also

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mentioned um the director of development

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um there was an agreement across um five

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8% and then some of the discussion that

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development against the principal

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planner they seems to be close to each

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also WR I just remember that

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as um yeah Mr Williams the first we

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already clarifi it was 8% or 5% yeah Mr

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Farley had brought up some point I just

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want clarification on that so and I'll

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can I just think that um but I have to

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give some context I'm of the thought

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if we're going to as a counsel and it

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what we're doing is visit you know

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trying to delve into you know what's

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appropriate pay for people and what do

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we if we're going to do it then I think

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that we need to do it in a more uniform

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way which seems like we're talking about

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the market research happening which will

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assist in that um

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so but I also just kind of want to say

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that if we're how we're getting to the

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decisions that we're getting thus far I

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don't think that it's been I I don't

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think that it's really been um

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consistent and or Equitable however you

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know with a commitment to revisit that

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um and you know I could I could I could

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see myself getting there I think that um

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the request was for

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15% and I think that there was council

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members were are saying that they were

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okay with 8% and and then for the

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principal planner um it was 5% I think

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going to do it I don't even know that's something that we should be

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touching anyway I think that I I it

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probably be better if it was just 3%

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across the board for everyone until we

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get this uh market research done but

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think that you know that we should honor

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pretty minimum to be at like a a 10% um

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for the a principal planner but I Al I

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some daylight an appropriate amount of a

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space between their salaries but

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considering their uh the service here as well here's a

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service this is why I think it's

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that we're on if we're going to do it

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good Mr Mo again go ahead please um do

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we what was the salary that we landed on

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officer she um 89 oh it's on 9 75 yes

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top do you have it or you I don't have I

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must have the wrong one of those so

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I'm that's fine can we make a two copies

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you so the other thing Mr Harley you

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at a point in time to make any move we

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recommendation what do we do going

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and Equitable and you know based on what

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for the other increases in pay that

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um for multiple other people's uh

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positions and out of those that came

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decisions based on the market research

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that we'll get but if we're going to

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take an action now then we should be

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consistent um based on the people who've

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forward Mr yeah please Mr fr so I

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understand concerns and um I had similar

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concerns but when I looked back at what

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the um adop salary was in 24 for these

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director of development and the

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principal plan the amount between those

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$1,000 what we would thought to hear

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that's increased by like three times

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that so that that part of it them being

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between the two so I just want to make

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sure that that that's clear so that and

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that honestly I think that it was um I

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Derek who kind of brought that to our

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attention last time it wasn't it would

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be a concern of mine but initially it

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wasn't so he brought that um and I so I

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was like that's something obviously we

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need to pay attention to but that really

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only addresses I would say probably the

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smaller part of kind of

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the unintentional in equable and Inc

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consistent

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practice but I also think that once the

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study is out it will

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address these uh these

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differences I I don't have the numbers

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in front of me I couldn't find my sheet

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but the um no no no not that sheet um

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the uh principal planner when um the the

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amount of the increase was proposed and

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they had done some research themselves

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it was anywhere from some 25,000 to

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152,000 so I I mean you know who are we

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to decide when the study does come in

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are they worthy of the 100,000 120 152

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so again again I think it's a slippery

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kind of slope that that we're on that

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we're going there and as I stated before

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nobody references sour levels that are

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lower than

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theirs that's I said I don't have that

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she in front of me it's right here oh

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was so it was well it was 76,500 to 1527

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so yeah but then the average is well the

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average what I'm saying take into

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account benefit absolutely and general

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compliance with other aspects of the

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city that up yeah and then the study

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comes out before us they will address

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they will they will point us directly to

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what the recommendation yeah and and as

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I mentioned before you know the deficit

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we're facing increasing taxes I'm not in

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favor of the the pay increases but

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that's

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me well let me be specific on that city

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has a residency requirement these

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employees was not in compliance with

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that it's not in compliance with it now

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how do you want me to enforce

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that explain that a little further for

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he doesn't live in the city it's

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required to live in the

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city I wasn't that she that position

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doesn't live I think more than one

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individual right I know I've tried to

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enforce that you know the council in any

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respects has looked

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under go ahead please uh is that the

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only individual that would I'm going to

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just say it's not the only that's not

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the only individual that we're

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considering reasons for who Des reside

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in the city and we're aware of that and

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you

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know however it happen so um I just want

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to make sure that we considering that that is not the only

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person that that it applies

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to and since we on that topic The

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Residency board um should be you

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know reactivate that

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board word that board it's not

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functioning at this point in time so can

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we need to get that board up and and

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running and if it's the challenge has

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been to find someone who actually

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because of the what it consists of

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finding someone who really wants to be a

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member that's been my challenge me to

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say that to be on the board so that's

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been the challenge I think we need to

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look deeper and just get that board and

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the appointment is from you and the

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mayor 60% of the members are appointed

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by the city council president the mayor

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The Corporation Council are their

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designate and then three members

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appointed by the city council president

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so we know that one count was council

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member that um actually who actually

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brought forth Mr thank you who going to

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be and the other um would have to come

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they have to be a member of the city's

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staff so I think we need to look at it

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and get the board up and running put it

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on the agenda and let's discuss it at

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some point in time try to get the word

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out here and get

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members we can address U these concerns

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so as we're addressing this we're bring

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this in this discussion so where are we

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in terms of moving power but any any

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more adjustments

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go ahead please so I'm I'm you know

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based on what was recommended you know

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I'm not comfortable with

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um the large very large discrepancy of

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you

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know the uh suggested um percentage of

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raises I'm I mean I'm not there um I'd

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like to see us move the needle on a

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little bit I know that being that I

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committed to

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do you need some

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clarity no just not

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sure sure I was just trying to make sure

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that

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anyar so yeah I I think that that's um

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I'd like to see us get

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um closer to some s of a consistent

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um uh increase if were if the increase

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were based on the information that was

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shared at this table if there's out

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other out side factors that wasn't

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shared in this table then there's

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clearly no way that I could make a

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determination based on that but based on

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what was shared here at this table I'd

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like to see us be a little more fair and

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Equitable on what we're doing and you

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know

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literally three times percentage raise

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um for um some people who came forward

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or and then some people and

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then onethird of that for others I don't

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think that's I I haven't seen the

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justification from that being shared

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here and I know that there was talks

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about um an anticipation um of of Mr

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far's

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retirement um and I think at that point

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you know then we can of course we have

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to I think we have to cross that bridge

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when we get to it I don't know that we

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do that now and anticipation for that

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and I just feel that I'm just not there

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so I'd like to see us

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get a little more uh closer to what was

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originally

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asked what other council member thinking

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about this position be specific to the

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director of development because that's

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the one we're focusing on oh there that

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and then there's the principal planner

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as well but yeah I mean I guess I want

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to go back to um I think we were having

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an open discussion the other the other

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night and I think we were trying to come

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to some compromises but I do think also

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um looking at it with the yellow

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highlight on it um I mean I think we we

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also could look back to what the mayor's

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propos was um which might be the

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more in other words that was consistent

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except for the one

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position um so I don't know so the

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mayor's propos was right here okay so

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that was the percentage was it's three

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well uh um there 3% except for that one

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and what's that one which was what

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actually I was saying the other evening

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what you're saying before I decided that

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I would be have I would consider

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compromising to these I actually was

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still sticking with the down okay yeah

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on that I

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would I'm I don't even know how

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that yeah I I I don't I I couldn't get

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there from 3% for every other position

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and then 51%

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I mean that to me that's outrageous

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actually to

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me what what um go ahead please sorry I

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going say the reason for that is because

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he was only at 80,000 which was well

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below the position right position was no that I

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completely that's why it seems like

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whated that's right we're looking

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forward get to hire somebody when we

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that was the case yeah so but he was

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that position was below well Below based

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on

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what was

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Max

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okaying because when the mayor did his

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3% or 4% the prior year he didn't

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complain about it that's why was well

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sure I'm not I'm my argue my argument is

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not that it's wasn't well below or below

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or that's not what I'm saying what I'm

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saying well Below based on what what you

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deter what uh Deputy Commissioners make

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or or Deputy controllers make in this

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area I'm talking about even the small

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cities that as you see in the paper

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today the uh controller from the town of

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this un this unit was hired today at I

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think 142,000 you know we're talking a

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place where 12,000 people a budget a

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budget of less than 20 million you know

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right you know we're talking 100 you

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know between the general Capital

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whatever we're talking over $200 million

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budget that's

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B6 so right so I'm again really really

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simply I'm not saying that it wasn't

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below I'm saying that if we delve into

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this then we have to make the same

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considerations for other um positions so

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did we look at what

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the surrounding municipalities do for

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positions that's comparable um to the

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other positions CU I did and in fact in Albany there's

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uh the structure is a little different

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but it's more

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of it's almost two

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positions um for what for what uh what

494
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we're talking about here so again I

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don't think that the position um is I I

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want us to be able to pay people uh uh

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and keep people here that's exactly what

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I'm saying all I'm saying is yes and we

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should be able we should be doing that

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for everyone who came forward on that

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same ruler using that same metric if not

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then we have things like a 3% for you

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and 51% for you and that to me is

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absolutely outrageous I can't

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even imagine that so that's what I'm

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saying

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so now that we moved

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closer I'd like to see us move closer I think that's the reason why I I I

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discuss about doing a study to address

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these um these variances and we're going

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to get to that and we're going to

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address it and then come back for

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discussion at that point in time I think

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when we discussed on Friday is that

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majority of the council um you know

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decide to move forward with a compromise

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because some were asking 15% some are

518
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asking 5% and then they end up uh with

519
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to being to being eight one being five

520
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and the four and the three with the

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small

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am and to leave the the mission at

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$100,000 recommend because it's market

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across the we were able to address that

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when we one of our hearing and we decide

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to move forward on that I would just ask

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a broad question are there support to

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increase the director of development

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from what was a recommendation from

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Friday Beyond 8%

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we we need to move forward with this

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conversation not prong so I just

533
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commented on that statement I originally

534
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proposed 10% and 15% and as the

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conversations continued I think that's

536
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when the compromise came I just very

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plainly want to not undo the work and

538
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extensive conversation we had on Friday

539
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do I concede to the fact that I accept

540
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this is not perfect and this is us being

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responsive to the individuals that came

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before us um which I very much stand on

543
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is one of our primary principles um

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however I can accept that in the future

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a better compromise or better solution

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for all the city management staff is

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having this Market valuation and I think

548
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,159
based with that understanding in mind I

549
00:25:41,159 --> 00:25:43,039
can at least speak for myself having

550
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,440
that information it'll be prudent upon

551
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,000
myself to act on it and I hope that's

552
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,880
where the rest of the council is I know

553
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,919
that as we take into consideration like

554
00:25:50,919 --> 00:25:53,600
how that impacts our budget line again

555
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,200
this is not something you're giving to

556
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,320
the city staff as I said before it is

557
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,080
what they owed based on their talents

558
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,960
and experience and I think it is our

559
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,799
responsibility to make sure that that's

560
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,159
reflected in their paychecks but doing

561
00:26:05,159 --> 00:26:08,919
that uh uh holistically rather than as

562
00:26:08,919 --> 00:26:10,720
people come and present themselves I

563
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240
think that's how we fix it so again we

564
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,880
talked about this a lot I appreciate

565
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,120
everyone's opinions and sentiments but

566
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,240
to your point we have to move forward

567
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,159
yes go ahead please and I just want to

568
00:26:21,159 --> 00:26:22,559
point out that when we're talking about

569
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,039
salaries uh there's you know everybody's

570
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:26,960
not equal in terms of because when you

571
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,120
look at those salaries there's entry

572
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,360
level there's mean there's meeting and

573
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,520
then there's experience so when we're

574
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,399
talking about that we have to also take

575
00:26:35,399 --> 00:26:38,360
those factors into consideration um so

576
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,159
having said that I'm I'm comfortable

577
00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:42,320
with what we um you know because I took

578
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,000
a lot of time to look into this so I'm

579
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200
comfortable uh what we came up with on

580
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,159
Friday go ahead please yeah so so again

581
00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:53,159
appreciate the work that everyone does

582
00:26:53,159 --> 00:26:55,200
for the city um but I thought we were

583
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000
considering the position not the amount

584
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,919
of time that was a position that someone

585
00:26:58,919 --> 00:27:00,760
was in a position because one of the

586
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,360
positions someone's only been in a few

587
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,039
months does have experience or a year or

588
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,200
something so so again it's a position

589
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,360
not

590
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:13,399
the individual or the time that someone

591
00:27:13,399 --> 00:27:16,240
has in that position so just I just want

592
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,919
to be clear that's not I just said

593
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:19,320
nothing about time I'm talking about

594
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,000
experience and I'm not talking about

595
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,880
time I never said time so just clear

596
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,120
I've never

597
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,440
said so if if we are concerned about the

598
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,960
impact of the budget and we're saying

599
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,520
that we're going to do a map Market uh

600
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120
some market research to inform our

601
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,600
decisions wouldn't wouldn't our best

602
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,159
action be to give everybody um the same

603
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,159
3% across the board until we get that

604
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:45,110
information and then

605
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,799
move can I just get clarification so um

606
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:50,679
you're saying everyone everyone like

607
00:27:50,679 --> 00:27:52,159
we're not we're not pulling anyone out

608
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:54,880
of that every single employee gets 3%

609
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,760
remember what we're considering here we

610
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,640
take off the table not do not

611
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,840
that's what I'm saying I'm saying that

612
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,240
if we're going to do if we're going to

613
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,559
if if if what the feedback I'm hearing

614
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,919
is from my council members is hey let's

615
00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:08,919
move forward with what we have and then

616
00:28:08,919 --> 00:28:11,159
wait for the market um research to be

617
00:28:11,159 --> 00:28:13,720
done and I'm saying okay if we're going

618
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,039
to wait for the market research to be

619
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:16,760
done then we shouldn't be taking any

620
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
action that could be um unfair and

621
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240
inequitable until we get set information

622
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,000
but if we're but if we're going to take

623
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,440
an action and that action is has um some

624
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080
people getting uh three three times

625
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,399
matter raay as other people based on

626
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:34,320
only solely based on what was presented

627
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840
here um and what Mr far says around a

628
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,360
market then we need to make that same

629
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,840
consideration for everyone that came

630
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
through or we are absolutely being

631
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,279
unfair and inequitable and I'm not

632
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,799
comfortable with that I would be willing

633
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:50,000
to if we were if if council members were

634
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,720
willing to um uh move the needle to we

635
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,440
to us get a little bit further in that

636
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,600
direction which I think would have

637
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,200
pretty minimum um impact uh to things

638
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440
and I I I just in this in

639
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480
the space of of of getting through this

640
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,559
and making a very huge compromise I

641
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,279
would do that but as it stands right now

642
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,080
I can't I can't see myself getting there

643
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,720
you guys can do what you want though

644
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,799
yeah I think there was a lot of

645
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,120
compromise but I didn't have to agree

646
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,200
with Mr Williams a lot of compromise

647
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,679
there it was not that something we

648
00:29:18,679 --> 00:29:21,360
wanted to do and you know we we can't

649
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,519
prolong this we we have to come as I

650
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:24,960
stated Friday we have to come to a

651
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,000
conclusion at some point in time and the

652
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600
conclusion is this

653
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
evening I

654
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,519
umly say that we discuss this Friday at

655
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,960
L 3 hours you just want to revisit that

656
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080
position it doesn't seems that there is

657
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,360
going to be any movement here at this

658
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600
point in time so I says you know let's

659
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
stick with what was recommended Friday

660
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,399
and let's move forward and we'll address

661
00:29:47,399 --> 00:29:49,000
that when we do the market

662
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320
study and come back to us and we can

663
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440
make an adjustment to any variance up or

664
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,480
down

665
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,039
that's so

666
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,480
see will just stick to what we had in

667
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,519
terms of that Friday and I just want to

668
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:05,720
go through this for summary in terms of

669
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,720
the first recommendation I think

670
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,880
everyone is in agreement with this

671
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760
recommendation only item I I ask for is

672
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,519
to uh increase the delinquent um parking

673
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:21,240
um violation to 60,000 80,000 so and

674
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,519
then put that money back into

675
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,279
contingency line how much I did 60 to

676
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,240
80,000

677
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,679
for paring violation and to take that

678
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:34,039
added revenue and place that into

679
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,399
contingency L to bring that to Upward of

680
00:30:37,399 --> 00:30:39,600
300,000 I think that's doable because

681
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,799
when we were discussing the fee increase

682
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,279
they are aggressive approach to to to go

683
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,760
after this revenue and I think they're

684
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,600
doing a good job they in you know going

685
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000
after working with the agency and

686
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960
they're putting resource behind that so

687
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,399
I don't feel that um yes they have 6,000

688
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:00,000
in that line I think we can double

689
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,639
almost double that and we'll achieve

690
00:31:02,639 --> 00:31:05,880
it I just want to remind everyone that

691
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,120
we also agreed that line 189 1989 499a

692
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,039
that which is the senior center yes that

693
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,240
is that isn't here as far recommendation

694
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,639
all right 4, yes okay thank

695
00:31:19,639 --> 00:31:28,159
you yeah sorry yeah 40,000 on Friday yes okay um I did ask I thought um to

696
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:29,919
get some totals of how much we've

697
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,760
collected so far in the uh

698
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
parking the last time we with numbers I

699
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720
got from a Brian was like

700
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,080
$20,000,000 the first couple weeks when

701
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960
it started but I wonder how much the new

702
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,880
what the um what the the date date on it

703
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,399
was 30 60 90 days 120 days you know what this company thinks how far they're

704
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:54,440
going to get back and what anticipation

705
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,799
might be

706
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,440
of you know dat it

707
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,080
try to recall I think they were they

708
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,960
were going to get six months and older

709
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480
or something like that yes I'm trying to

710
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,240
recall the conversation that we had when

711
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
we yes so it's about that and the reason

712
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,480
I'm confident that they they can do more

713
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Revenue but they were very conservative

714
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,159
because they're rolling it now and they

715
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:18,799
were like okay we never approach this we

716
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:19,880
don't know what we're getting yourself

717
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
in but the feedback and the the response

718
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080
as being what they were looking for yes

719
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
and they're but it's it's a lot of work

720
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,039
you need to get done abely to to do it

721
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,720
and I think that adding that Revenue

722
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,679
it's not going anywhere sorry it's

723
00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:37,080
adding the revenue and keeping it in

724
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,120
contingency line to help with these um

725
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,639
fires and unforeseen um additional

726
00:32:42,639 --> 00:32:45,960
expense against the

727
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,639
city that is my recommendation on that

728
00:32:48,639 --> 00:32:51,039
to increase it by um to bring it to

729
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,080
300,000 so that will be $80,000 plus

730
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,360
$880,000 right now it's 220,000

731
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,549
contingency

732
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,200
L parking

733
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,039
funds 20,000 that's 240 you're saying

734
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,320
right no we're bringing the contingency

735
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360
line to 300,000 back to 300,000 okay and

736
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,880
we're adding

737
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,559
80,000 okay so the parking delinquent

738
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,399
parking

739
00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:22,320
,000 parking 8 8 Z it's going from 6 are

740
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,559
you going to add 80 you're going to go

741
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,279
from 60 to 140 yes oh okay I thought

742
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,840
joh can you just tell me the line please

743
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,909
oh revenue revenue line yeah 20

744
00:33:36,919 --> 00:33:39,880
a261 m m like Mar because when the

745
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,559
adjustment was done against this here

746
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,360
because

747
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880
um Anthony has Anthony took out the

748
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760
money against the police on the fire

749
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,720
over time and we were like no not don't

750
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,159
do that and then you went and took it

751
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:55,000
out against the contingency but then

752
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480
they there's there is you know room to

753
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,200
increase the revenue on one line and and

754
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,120
bring it back into the contingency okay

755
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,880
so the uh inqu parking now is gone from

756
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,440
60,000 to 140 that's correct and your

757
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,800
contingency is going up to

758
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,240
300,000 so he an in and out go ahead Mr

759
00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:19,280
I distinctly remember that you wanted to

760
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,359
double yeah I was looking at the top one

761
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:24,280
here 240 but then I realized there's

762
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,720
another contingency draw down here so

763
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,839
the first one was 240,000 balance but

764
00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:32,280
then there was another 20,000 that came

765
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480
out to to reduce it by another

766
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,320
20,000 now we're going to put it back to

767
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:49,270
300,000 and 140,000 140,000

768
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,119
yes are there any any other discuss on

769
00:34:52,119 --> 00:35:00,990
that any um

770
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,880
okay so we did we did I did U do strong

771
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440
on this and everybody is okay and five

772
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,440
indiv um council member are okay with

773
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,320
this um we'll just go to um before we

774
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,760
wrap up we'll go to um when we were

775
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,800
discussing the public hearing budget May

776
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,720
Mr chairman um last week when I sent the

777
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,680
communication around increasing the

778
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,800
youth uh budget line I also um requested

779
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,520
that we talk about um that we uh fund

780
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,760
anti-racism training for city employees

781
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,359
that was in that email Friday we

782
00:35:34,359 --> 00:35:36,839
neglected to get there so I wanted to

783
00:35:36,839 --> 00:35:38,040
make sure that we

784
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,230
didn't CL over

785
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,720
that you want to fund that for the city

786
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,560
employee or for the police department

787
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,520
back the bud so but so my thought was

788
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
that it should be funded for city

789
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,990
employees including the police actually

790
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,079
go ahead please I think that um what we

791
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,400
did I don't know was it two years ago I

792
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,800
can't remember but again through our MVP

793
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,480
I believe that the HR department was

794
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440
able to bring in some anti-racism

795
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,960
training for no cost to all city

796
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,800
employees wasn't that remember I think

797
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,599
you and I you and I went to that I do

798
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,560
remember um so I I guess I would rather

799
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,240
see if we could try to do the no cost

800
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,960
thing again through HR oh that's what we

801
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520
did right as I I don't know

802
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,990
[Music]

803
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,319
hold on I can't I'm I'm lost what you

804
00:36:35,319 --> 00:36:37,280
say we have other programs that we have

805
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,359
through HR department work SP is one

806
00:36:40,359 --> 00:36:43,880
of go through and basically

807
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,960
take antidiscrimination

808
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,990
anti-racism

809
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,880
I know so I was saying um I agree we

810
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,599
should fund the budget line and if we

811
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:58,880
have someone to come to do anti-racism

812
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480
training for free then let's do that

813
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,400
that's of course but in

814
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,599
the I don't think that it's something

815
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,240
that we can just like hope that we can

816
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,319
find for free I think that we have to

817
00:37:11,319 --> 00:37:14,599
prioritize that um as a you know

818
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,640
institutionally but it was part of the

819
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,119
health the health MVP program not

820
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:21,839
MVP

821
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:24,640
Insurance Prov and they provided free of

822
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,839
cost so why we can tap into that again

823
00:37:26,839 --> 00:37:29,079
and see that that's there because if we

824
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:31,400
were to if we were to put a cost to this

825
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,640
what is the

826
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,119
cost so I well I think that um it was

827
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,200
funded on the police line prior but but

828
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,400
I so I would say to at least just um get

829
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,520
back get back to where we were um and I

830
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040
think that there's a there's a there

831
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,880
might be um some distinctions that have

832
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,240
to be made behind discrimination

833
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,119
policies and training and anti-racism um

834
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,160
training um so they might have to make

835
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359
those distinct those distinctions for

836
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,880
the council members um I think that

837
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,920
especially uh since um George Floyd's

838
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,599
murder and um you know things that we'

839
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,400
that we've witnessed we've institutions

840
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,480
have start to not honor their commitment

841
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,280
to be anti-racist because you know

842
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,359
there's no longer the social political

843
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:18,960
Capital associated with and I really

844
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,160
want to make sure that the people of the

845
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,920
city of concy know that that's not our

846
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,760
position so I would say that we should

847
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160
fund that line and indeed if we can find

848
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,079
a service to to do for free Let's Do It

849
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,839
um did anyone here at the council go to

850
00:38:30,839 --> 00:38:33,680
the anti-racism um training that as

851
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
council members yes um it was through

852
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,920
our insurance yes yes company I think it

853
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,640
was just council president Porterfield

854
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,839
and myself that attended is that right

855
00:38:42,839 --> 00:38:45,040
that's correct okay oh cuz I cuz I

856
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,160
thought that that training was anti- uh

857
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,520
discrimination no this one was

858
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,760
anti-racism anti-discrimination is

859
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,720
definitely different than anti-racism

860
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,839
mhm yeah I think we it was anti-racism

861
00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:57,560
training that was taking I don't know

862
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,520
that that was the

863
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,079
case let me say this I did you worked

864
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,200
with Mar book remember we had so many

865
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,280
dates I'm not let's just be clear yeah

866
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,839
counil I didn't I did not book that

867
00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:13,240
training all right let's not talk please

868
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,160
I not book that training we were looking

869
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,119
for trainers outside of that and we

870
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,359
could not get a consensus on Council

871
00:39:20,359 --> 00:39:22,560
Members with the date to attend that

872
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,359
training that was how that happened and

873
00:39:24,359 --> 00:39:26,599
then um I'm assuming that the mayor gave

874
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,040
a director to HR to bring somebody in

875
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
and that is what happen Okay so I did

876
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,119
attend the training and um I've attended

877
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,240
multiple trainers that met including one

878
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,520
by the police department and I have to

879
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200
say uh that one in in my opinion was

880
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,960
left

881
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,280
wanting I think it needs to be really

882
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,079
much more intense it was very limited

883
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,040
time that was spent on it so um I don't

884
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,160
necessarily recommend I don't n I'm

885
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,599
going to take out necessarily I do not

886
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,720
recommend that we use that same process

887
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:02,560
I recommend that we use some because the

888
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,119
with our insurance companies like they

889
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:05,680
say they bring somebody in who does it

890
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,440
all the time that was not my takeaway

891
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,520
from that training and so um although I

892
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,119
went to a training with the police

893
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,040
department once and I was it was much

894
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,280
more intense training I thought was

895
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,200
great down right down zone five I don't

896
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,040
know who that who they brought in to do

897
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,720
that but there was a it was very

898
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,640
distinct and what they were willing to

899
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,440
address and how they were going to

900
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440
address it and it was also much more

901
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,240
interactive which to me is a better way

902
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,040
to have takeaways from training this

903
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,960
training wasn't it was more they asked

904
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,040
for interaction but there really wasn't

905
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,079
a lot however that one was structured

906
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:39,680
that was very interactive and there was

907
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,520
a lot more that people took away and

908
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,319
conversations happened amongst people

909
00:40:43,319 --> 00:40:44,800
that were the training so the one the

910
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,440
police department did was much better I

911
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,079
can say that and I'm not talking about

912
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:49,760
this recent one I'm talking about one

913
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,960
maybe two years ago own five so uh so uh

914
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,400
I I don't I don't remember any other

915
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,079
council member going to that one but you

916
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,440
may have yeah I came to the police one

917
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,839
um so I apologize for that but so if

918
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:05,160
we're going to do it then then we're

919
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,720
going to do it and we're going to just

920
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,680
not do it so that we check the box say

921
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,839
we did do it we should if we're going to

922
00:41:10,839 --> 00:41:13,119
we should really invest in it and get an

923
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,480
organization or individual or a company

924
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
or whatever we're doing who really does

925
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960
it on a regular basis and we can really

926
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,319
derive something

927
00:41:21,319 --> 00:41:23,480
from

928
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,240
that's go ahead so if I remember

929
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,440
correctly that training that the council

930
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,040
president was talking about was actually

931
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,640
an implicit bias training was the

932
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,720
language that we use um it wasn't an

933
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,240
anti-racism training um though they do

934
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,760
cover similar topic are there's key

935
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,359
distinctions um the same way that we

936
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:43,119
would say like workplace violence is one

937
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,000
training but sexual harassment in the

938
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,400
workplace is a different training even

939
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,359
though the two overlap there there are

940
00:41:48,359 --> 00:41:51,280
some key distinctions um and and through

941
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040
those conversations I was strongly

942
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,680
suggesting that we look at anti-racism

943
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,160
training as a Council body because our

944
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,160
biggest you know Duty as a council

945
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,400
member is to really is to oversee the

946
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,640
allocation of funds and if we're not

947
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,359
careful we can start to perpetuate some

948
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,560
of those inequities and institutional

949
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,440
racism through through our lens even

950
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,200
though that's not our intention we all

951
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,880
capable of doing that so I think

952
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
especially um in in light of recent

953
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,119
discussions that's something that we

954
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,359
should really be looking at and and and

955
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:22,760
doing something and making sure that it

956
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880
is exactly that not something to check a

957
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,559
box or something else that will kind of

958
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,160
touch on it but doesn't really deal with

959
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,800
it and so no to everyone's um

960
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,520
clarification we have not have any

961
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,800
anti-racism training for sees employees

962
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,559
of

963
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,440
connected besides the police office

964
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,480
there go ahead besides what the police

965
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,559
office there for that one okay U so what

966
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,800
is your in terms of all the various

967
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,760
trainings what is your position on thei

968
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,319
training as opposed to anti-racism

969
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:54,720
so um I think that depending on you know

970
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,760
we can get I don't want to get too much

971
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,880
into this semantics but and so just for

972
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,880
now you know for distinction here for

973
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,160
people uh Dei training Dei is diversity

974
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,760
equity and inclusion okay diversity

975
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,359
Equity inclusion diversity is something

976
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:11,160
that exists we all are diversity is not

977
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,440
something that we do we just are

978
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,520
everyone's diverse in very multiple ways

979
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Equity is making sure that we're

980
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,960
allocating resources to what people's

981
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520
needs um and inclusion is just that

982
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,359
inclusive space um anti-racism training

983
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:26,720
is really looking at the Historical um

984
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,319
disp arities that have happened in

985
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:30,760
institutions such as a city hall such

986
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040
you know we're not exempt from that um

987
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
by any means even through our best

988
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,920
efforts myself included we often

989
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,960
perpetuate some of those um inequities

990
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
and racist policies so that's why

991
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,160
there's a clear distinction

992
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,880
and that's why I would say that we need

993
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,309
to go under anti-racism

994
00:43:51,319 --> 00:43:54,119
chain if we were toach a dollar amount

995
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:57,720
what are you looking at um I don't what was the police

996
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,480
uh what was it funded at it wasn't it's

997
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,599
not yeah I think cuz I think they do it

998
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,200
like they don't do it annually was the

999
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,150
first put the

1000
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,680
budgeted

1001
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,319
23 to pay for it in

1002
00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:21,240
24 looking to do it every two

1003
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:25,640
years that's what that's what um AC told

1004
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,480
us during his presentation that they

1005
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,160
were going to do it next year you

1006
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,760
know yeah they do they do it every two

1007
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,119
years which

1008
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:38,559
is and that's for the police it's not

1009
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:44,640
for so so hold on please let's let's okay I'm sorry you you were

1010
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,640
speaking Mr no I was just trying to U

1011
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,400
answer there's nothing on that line so

1012
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200
that's I'm we don't have anything in our

1013
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,920
budget plan to show so we need to attach

1014
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,880
a number it was what 50,000 50,000 why

1015
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000
would I would just that but to the

1016
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,599
mayor's Point

1017
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,839
um you know I think the

1018
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:07,870
mayor yeah

1019
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,599
50,000 that's for 120 individuals maybe

1020
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:17,559
28,800 spent this year L 20,800 corre

1021
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,640
anti-racism training line okay say

1022
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,839
20,000 and that's for the

1023
00:45:22,839 --> 00:45:24,559
PD

1024
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,040
20 so that's just you pay by the person

1025
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,640
is that what why you're

1026
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,440
saying line just total I'm assuming it's

1027
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:41,230
encumbered from previous year oh

1028
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,640
okaying in fact don't have the numbers

1029
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,390
here but it's lying

1030
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,400
83120

1031
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,349
4

1032
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:58,119
2 yeah we don't have for

1033
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:05,549
back

1034
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,559
22000 I mean there's you know there an

1035
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:11,000
inservice training line I mean maybe that just got charged to a

1036
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,880
different line I don't know but he said

1037
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,720
it wasn't going to happen in

1038
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:21,280
2025 he said he did it January

1039
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,960
24 go ahead please but I what I hear

1040
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,000
from Mr Farley saying is that every

1041
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,800
other year he you feel sufficient well

1042
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,920
we do so I think like most places

1043
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520
there's um annual trainings that happen

1044
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,480
um and sometimes we uh do I'm just

1045
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,839
talking about like other institutions

1046
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:40,440
that I've been a part of we do like um

1047
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,359
universal precautions uh workplace

1048
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:44,760
violence sexual harassment those

1049
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
trainings happen annually um so I would

1050
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,920
say the best practice would be to

1051
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,240
incorporate that training for our all

1052
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,400
cities employees an annually and I think

1053
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,000
that to my knowledge that would uh

1054
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,119
$20,000 would absolutely cover that um I wouldn't even suggest that that that

1055
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:04,160
we needed to make uh such an investment

1056
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,040
I would say we could be really safe

1057
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,119
about doing that with half

1058
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,839
that in 2023 was adopted

1059
00:47:12,839 --> 00:47:15,920
$60,000 see see what I mean like how we

1060
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,640
went like from like oh this is really

1061
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,480
important to us and then things cha off

1062
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,079
and but I will say though to uh to the mayor and and police chief's

1063
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,440
credit the training we went to was very

1064
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,520
good I think that the police training

1065
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,839
has to be a little different cuz it has

1066
00:47:30,839 --> 00:47:32,920
to be a little more specific um so I

1067
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,760
think that there is a niche thing there

1068
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,520
which why needs to happen where there's

1069
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,160
a more broader training that for all

1070
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,839
city employees and of course City

1071
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:42,240
Council Members all right so if we if we

1072
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,760
were to attach a number here for 30,000

1073
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,880
be something 50,000 we need a number so

1074
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,920
we can move forward and let's let's go

1075
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,319
around the table and ask if that we have

1076
00:47:51,319 --> 00:47:53,880
the support for it go ahead please well

1077
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,200
I was just going to say I mean I think

1078
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,880
our HR department does does do regular

1079
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,599
trainings for all the city employees I

1080
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:01,440
know they've done sexual harassment we

1081
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,319
do a lot of cyber security so I think we

1082
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:07,280
need to look overall training the

1083
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,440
training budget I mean it doesn't and I

1084
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,839
think that M to Mr Farley's Point put

1085
00:48:12,839 --> 00:48:15,400
some money into the police budget

1086
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,760
separate maybe but I

1087
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,800
mean you see what I'm saying like I

1088
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,240
think we I think you touch a good point

1089
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,559
because May those training are mandatory

1090
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:29,950
that rolls out every year for all

1091
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,559
especially sexual harassment and workpl

1092
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:35,359
violence yes so those those training at

1093
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:38,880
there and employee must complete the

1094
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,400
choice they have they must complete his

1095
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,400
mandatory

1096
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,280
SS so let's put a number there let's you

1097
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,000
know address it and see where we where

1098
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,520
we are in terms of support and let's

1099
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,040
move forward I'm fine with putting money

1100
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,359
into it I would like to put money into

1101
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,480
it but I just don't know where in the

1102
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,720
budget it would go It Go HR in training

1103
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,640
or you see what I'm saying so I don't

1104
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,200
really need to make that I don't need to

1105
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,839
be a part of that I mean it's really

1106
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:08,200
it's an it's an HR it's an HR kind of

1107
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,119
thing yes go ahead please so an HR line

1108
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:18,119
1430 406 in service training is that

1109
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,839
what currently covers it it's

1110
00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:24,520
$15,000 oh so there is $15,000 there but

1111
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,240
maybe that's for a auto training yeah

1112
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,520
that all of the training but but again I

1113
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,400
think that I'm sure that um you can hear

1114
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,000
but I mean I know that some of the

1115
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,359
trainings that they offer through HR are

1116
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:40,359
part of what we I think get through

1117
00:49:40,359 --> 00:49:44,280
either through some insurance I don't I

1118
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,720
don't let me so maybe they're free no

1119
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,079
they're not free but you know we're

1120
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,680
paying for it in another way go ahead

1121
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,680
and in 2023 our actual expenses on that

1122
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,400
line was 29,5

1123
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,359
76 so I guess we we allocated in 2022 I

1124
00:50:02,359 --> 00:50:05,720
mean excuse me 2022 was 1,400 in 2023 it

1125
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,480
would have like double so we'd have to

1126
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,040
figure out what happened there and then

1127
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,079
in 2024 our adopted budget was 15,000 at

1128
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,200
on this line um do you know what our

1129
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,760
what we paid out so far

1130
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,880
1430 406 this is under HR and service

1131
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,030
train 1430 406

1132
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,359
of the

1133
00:50:30,359 --> 00:50:33,000
old the

1134
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,720
original if there $15,000 currently on

1135
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,000
that line budgeted 2025 right and

1136
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,359
nothing was spent in 2024 go ahead

1137
00:50:42,359 --> 00:50:44,640
please service training is is training

1138
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,240
for uh the members in the in the staff

1139
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:52,040
only yeah okay so nothing's been spent

1140
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,400
so far on that line so where's the other

1141
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,079
training coming from

1142
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,480
go ahead please so it's say compromise

1143
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,760
because I think part of the response is

1144
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,960
just because you can do something

1145
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,799
doesn't mean you are the best person to

1146
00:51:05,799 --> 00:51:09,000
do that um and I think also we look at

1147
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,680
like comparative advantages versus

1148
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,400
absolute advantages so I think if we

1149
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,920
have this budget line I do agree that HR

1150
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,960
would be the best entity to capture this

1151
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,000
uh within City Hall but I think we need

1152
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,040
to give them the proper tools and

1153
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640
resources if we're trying to use aign

1154
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,839
that hasn't been used previous year so I

1155
00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:32,119
think as a compromise we could look to

1156
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:34,559
send them to a train and trainer type

1157
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:38,559
course um or look at segmenting and

1158
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:39,960
taking a portion of this money and

1159
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,280
attributing it to order recommending

1160
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,640
trying to find an in-house or not an

1161
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,880
in-house like a training uh entity with

1162
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,960
a part of that line of

1163
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,960
$155,000 or two

1164
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,760
recommendations go ahead please I don't

1165
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,799
think the is nearly enough to do that if

1166
00:51:56,799 --> 00:51:58,720
we're going to do that Mr Farley is

1167
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,559
saying that 15 15,000 is just for the

1168
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:03,720
staff and HR and that's

1169
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:17,789
it excuse me Mr

1170
00:52:17,799 --> 00:52:19,960
Ferrari no you know what this was for

1171
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,480
the 15 for the FL RIS that was for the

1172
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,200
FL RIS where the groups that we had come

1173
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,960
here to do the train for us

1174
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,000
what the companies called f risk they were they were part of the

1175
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,799
companies that came in and did some of

1176
00:52:33,799 --> 00:52:35,799
the training for us for all employees

1177
00:52:35,799 --> 00:52:38,359
you mean for all employees

1178
00:52:38,359 --> 00:52:41,000
yeah we Haven haven't spent the D yet

1179
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,599
yes that's because I think it's because

1180
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,559
of get an annual cost not not even not

1181
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,200
only that I think the Bill's going to

1182
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,599
come up but uh the problem is too is we

1183
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:53,359
had an influx with Excuse me with the

1184
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:56,559
persons in

1185
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:00,400
El Mr T I'm just saying I I you know

1186
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,720
just in the police budget alone and if

1187
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:05,920
we want training for everyone and that's

1188
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,839
28,000 for staff plus police to say

1189
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:12,119
maybe 150 people and how many employees

1190
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:14,440
are there so I mean to to to get an

1191
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,000
appropriate amount on that line it would

1192
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,280
have to be I would thinking excess of

1193
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,839
$100,000 just thing so then add a

1194
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:24,000
nauseum if you're going to add something

1195
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,839
to the so if we're going to put number

1196
00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:28,440
on it which we have to where is that

1197
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,760
number going to come from and that needs

1198
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:39,190
to be the next answer from

1199
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,319
someone okay so so I I would say that if

1200
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:47,720
we funded the line uh previously

1201
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,200
at 60,000 yeah so then I I I would say

1202
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,160
that and in in my limited scope I mean I

1203
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,240
do know a lot about this in different

1204
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:58,760
organizations that do it but I will say

1205
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,640
that's limited um to some degree I would

1206
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,839
say that I think that we could

1207
00:54:02,839 --> 00:54:05,520
accomplish that with a budget line of

1208
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520
$115,000 I think that you could have two

1209
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,559
trainings um and yeah just talking

1210
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,359
racism let him finish please but

1211
00:54:16,359 --> 00:54:18,880
understand you're saying or 5 well no

1212
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040
I'm saying five I'm talking about just

1213
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,920
anti-racism okay yeah you should be able

1214
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,040
to add that um for

1215
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040
$155,000 I think that you be able to do

1216
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,680
for the anti-racism training 50,000 yes

1217
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,839
sir and where would you suest take it

1218
00:54:34,839 --> 00:54:36,200
out from

1219
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,520
General you like to increase revenue or

1220
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,119
take it out to General take it out

1221
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:46,910
General funds that's what I would

1222
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,599
say go ahead please you can also reduce

1223
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:56,549
the contingency by 15,000 there you go

1224
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,760
the mayor had two emergency demo U this

1225
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640
week last week into this week 40,000 45

1226
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,440
43 45,000 that's 100,000 right there the

1227
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,280
second CL that he calls us to make sure

1228
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,839
we have enough money

1229
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:12,119
to okay go ahead have a question so with

1230
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:14,520
those emergency demos are the insurance

1231
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,160
company reimbursing us at any level we

1232
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,520
try and get 100% sometimes we're lucky

1233
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,480
sometimes we're not uh again the method

1234
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,839
I use

1235
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:31,160
is there all these State rules and stuff

1236
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,480
it's the fire chief takes control of the

1237
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,039
scene fire chief takes control of the

1238
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:38,880
scene has absolute control any other

1239
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,400
regulations is put to the side I do not

1240
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,280
let the fire chief release the scene

1241
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,799
until the building is demolished and

1242
00:55:46,799 --> 00:55:48,280
nobody's challenged that they come in

1243
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,240
and talk about asbest and contamination

1244
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,319
and other things those things are all

1245
00:55:53,319 --> 00:55:55,520
good but I'm not going to let the

1246
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,359
building sit there for years and that's

1247
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:58,799
what happens to other

1248
00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:02,839
communities so that costs more money I

1249
00:56:02,839 --> 00:56:04,960
have to have firefighters which staff

1250
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,599
that scene time and a half this last

1251
00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:12,599
one uh which is still being evaluated we

1252
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:16,000
also treated as a potential crime scene

1253
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,559
so police officers also staff it so that

1254
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,000
becomes time and a half so you can run

1255
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,559
up several

1256
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:26,520
thousand very easily there and some of

1257
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,799
those costs we don't get reimbursed for

1258
00:56:29,799 --> 00:56:31,520
even though we try to

1259
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,400
get reimbursed well Al I mean if they

1260
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,400
have insurance on insurance they don't

1261
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200
have insurance on the building sometimes

1262
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,680
they don't have insurance or the

1263
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,520
building is under insured yes so it's

1264
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,559
the city is at at risk most all the time

1265
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:49,240
somebody go ahead yeah I would just

1266
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:50,920
caution us not even though I don't think

1267
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,200
that's the intention here that I don't

1268
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,520
we don't want to frame it um for the

1269
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,559
larger public that it's you know know

1270
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:01,359
anti-racism training or uh you know

1271
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,359
supplying our our contingency fund

1272
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:06,119
that's not I don't want to to have I

1273
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:07,760
think that there's a false Choice here

1274
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,440
thank you the contingency appreciate you

1275
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,720
Mr thank you for that so 15,000 15,000

1276
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,240
is been recommended by Mr Harley to add

1277
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,839
to the anti-racism

1278
00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:20,440
training go ahead i' like to make a

1279
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,680
point I like to ask a question first of

1280
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,640
all are you when you say 15,000 is this

1281
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,079
for the entire city incl police fire and

1282
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:31,119
every city employee so no I believe that

1283
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,000
the police already have um money in

1284
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,920
their budget to do that they do it every

1285
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,400
other year they don't they won't do it

1286
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,480
won't be anything in 25 25 budget doing

1287
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,200
it 24 we'll do it 25 then in 26 we will

1288
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,359
and the reality with that is just there

1289
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:52,280
are some training that has to occur

1290
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240
every year and then there's some that is

1291
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,720
done on a uh

1292
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,520
longer time plan and this seems to be

1293
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,760
one of those that fits in so that we can

1294
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,359
you know balance the amount of time that

1295
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,160
we have the amount of service or paying

1296
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,280
him overtime to do training yeah U Mr

1297
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,960
Mayor I I again I witnessed the training

1298
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,280
on the one time and it was a very good

1299
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Training I you know I definitely could

1300
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,599
tell that it was vetted what I'm saying

1301
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:23,359
is that um their training is specific to the police um and I think so and it

1302
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,240
does need to be so I'm not saying to

1303
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,240
really necessarily change anything as

1304
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,720
far as what they have going on I'm

1305
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,520
saying that if we put $115,000 in the

1306
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,559
budget we could offer um I'm sure that

1307
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,200
we could find a vendor to offer those

1308
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,880
trainings um maybe two trainings um and

1309
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,400
or maybe two or three trainings for that

1310
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,359
number and then obviously police and

1311
00:58:44,359 --> 00:58:46,039
fire and everyone City polies will be

1312
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:48,760
welcome to attend uh set trainings but I

1313
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,359
think that that that' be a place to

1314
00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:52,559
start again we're not going you know

1315
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,760
we're not in a position to operate off

1316
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,319
our wish list I just think that this is

1317
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:57,520
something that's that should be a

1318
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,200
priority it's part of our expressed

1319
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,799
values and what we have expressed to the

1320
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:03,240
public I think that we need to honor

1321
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,799
that I apologize I don't know what we do

1322
00:59:07,799 --> 00:59:11,359
like in ogs so like with office staff

1323
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:12,880
here can schedule okay you're going to

1324
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,240
come in here for a day for 4 hours

1325
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,520
whatever it is with people the waste

1326
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,720
collection I still have to do the full

1327
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,599
day's work so we have to and I not quite

1328
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,520
sure how we do some of that so budget

1329
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,200
some of those trains they done online

1330
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,119
different things for and that's worker

1331
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:39,760
safety some of the equipment that can uh

1332
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,520
do it but that would actually have a

1333
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,760
bigger impact in terms of the budget or

1334
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,799
have to pay you know everybody overtime

1335
00:59:47,799 --> 00:59:51,640
to do the training MH okay so so there

1336
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,559
is $15,000 against us so I mean against

1337
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,200
us flying anti-racism TR 15,000 being

1338
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,960
suggested do we have um support for this

1339
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,720
yes yes yeah so before answer do we

1340
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,880
incorporate that reduction in uh line A1

1341
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,200
1989 499a the senior center program

1342
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,039
because we could just attribute $115,000

1343
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:17,079
from that we already took that out

1344
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:19,760
already we brought it down to 40,000

1345
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,760
right great was it already incorporated

1346
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,160
into the budget CU I know we kind of

1347
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,910
Sprint it out on Friday yeah was not

1348
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,920
adjusted look at

1349
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,599
that no that came out of um that came

1350
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:36,799
out of contingency there was no Mone for

1351
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:40,200
Sen program 300,000 contingency 60,000

1352
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,000
to part0 and then at the bottom of the

1353
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,119
page they took another 20,000 bring it

1354
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:49,160
to two party so that's why I suggest to up that up back to 300,000 so we do

1355
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,720
not have it you will have to come out

1356
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,359
from Dem Reserve so if we were willing

1357
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:56,480
to spend out contingency for the C

1358
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,359
can't we just spend a compl for this

1359
01:00:58,359 --> 01:01:01,280
very important training

1360
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,599
great do that I thought that's what we

1361
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:04,920
were

1362
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,200
doing I don't have an objection on that

1363
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,799
15,000 out of that I will make it 285

1364
01:01:11,799 --> 01:01:18,150
25 still positive

1365
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,760
yes I know I saw like broken record on

1366
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,319
the oper money but I don't we don't have

1367
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:24,910
any

1368
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,599
$846 know I mean when we take some money

1369
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,039
back

1370
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,760
yeah all right what what is the support

1371
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:32,520
for

1372
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:41,760
this support support support support okay supp 20 yeah $15,000 I

1373
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,000
[Music]

1374
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,839
support

1375
01:01:44,839 --> 01:01:47,520
alliz this we'll have to move this out

1376
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,039
to committee and have time to clear it

1377
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,079
out so we have on we all on the same

1378
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,000
page of the recommended changes last

1379
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,240
when we were um discussing raises and I

1380
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,480
was discussing with the mayor why no why

1381
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,079
the May didn't put in any raises and

1382
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,359
then there are certain regulation in

1383
01:02:04,359 --> 01:02:06,359
terms of that and then our follow

1384
01:02:06,359 --> 01:02:08,079
transition is that may I would like to

1385
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,960
see um what is in the in the law the

1386
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,720
city CH and I ask Miss bar to look at

1387
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,520
how we how come up with a recommendation

1388
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,200
how do we proceed in terms of the May is

1389
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,599
and what's in the city Char and I know

1390
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,119
you submit some documents us last Friday

1391
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,240
and today would you like to kind of walk

1392
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,599
us through as to where we are what what

1393
01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:31,839
we need to

1394
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:34,520
do just make sure we're clear what my

1395
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,359
position is I came in here as mayor had

1396
01:02:38,359 --> 01:02:41,960
uh difficult Financial Times first cycle

1397
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,520
didn't ask for anything and my uh

1398
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,920
compensation is still probably $35

1399
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,960
$40,000 less than my

1400
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,799
predecessor uh the overall

1401
01:02:53,799 --> 01:02:57,440
package uh going back full 5 years ago

1402
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,480
what the charter says is that the May

1403
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,880
will be given pay raises equal to other

1404
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,599
management employees I had that number

1405
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:08,960
calculated I forget it was 14,000 or

1406
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,119
16,000 the council rejected that and

1407
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,480
gave me 4%

1408
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,520
raise this cycle I didn't put anything

1409
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,599
in because the law is quite clear and

1410
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,760
you're talented group here you've gone

1411
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,119
over every line

1412
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:29,920
uh nothing's been left unchallenged or

1413
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,799
unanalyzed and so last year you gave

1414
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:35,839
every management employee arrays except

1415
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:38,799
me uh so I can take a hint on that and

1416
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:41,359
really what I'm looking to do is you

1417
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:44,279
can't give pay raises during the term

1418
01:03:44,279 --> 01:03:45,880
but I got to clear it up for other

1419
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,079
individuals to be sitting in the seat

1420
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:50,760
and so really looking to litigate it

1421
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,760
would like it to be so the members of

1422
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,559
the council are liable for that that

1423
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:57,039
wasn't paid to me but it'll make sure

1424
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,839
that in future councils and Mayors

1425
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:01,559
people are going to live up to what the

1426
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:04,279
code is or the Char if you don't like

1427
01:04:04,279 --> 01:04:06,480
that you have the ability to change it

1428
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,839
you haven't done that and so you know

1429
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:12,680
I'm open to discussions but I'm

1430
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,240
generally not happy with the way the

1431
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,079
council's proceeded on

1432
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:20,000
that the other question is

1433
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:26,520
that can official salary within their t

1434
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,079
salary increase salary increase sorry

1435
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:29,799
thank

1436
01:04:29,799 --> 01:04:32,240
you and I think that was part of one of

1437
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,319
the U documents that it says that

1438
01:04:35,319 --> 01:04:38,039
elected official are not supposed to

1439
01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:40,960
receive salary increase within the term

1440
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,520
so how do we go about if we were to get

1441
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,720
that management raised to an individual

1442
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,359
how would that apply four positions were

1443
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:51,960
raised as of January 1st of this year

1444
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,400
and three remain at the lower level

1445
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,000
because you're in the mid portion return

1446
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,039
the power to fix and determine salaries

1447
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:00,760
compensation and benefits of all city

1448
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,079
employees officers the city council

1449
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,400
shall determine and

1450
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,480
establish great one the annual

1451
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,470
budget

1452
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,720
uh you can't get that's the

1453
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,039
spage the middle

1454
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:23,760
turn but then there's a section all the

1455
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,990
way down to page uh

1456
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,279
um four four four

1457
01:05:31,279 --> 01:05:36,069
yes um section

1458
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:41,670
F I'm

1459
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,240
ask

1460
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,400
Miss obri so can I explain this in terms

1461
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,319
of you're saying that okay you can

1462
01:05:49,319 --> 01:05:52,319
receive this salary inre between your T

1463
01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:54,440
but then this part

1464
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,160
here w what the position is I've taken

1465
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,480
is the salary should be adjusted every

1466
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,279
four years every four years right so my

1467
01:06:03,279 --> 01:06:05,920
term was up before I put in for a race

1468
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,200
the council rejected that and this time

1469
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,799
a year ago I didn't put anything in

1470
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:14,599
because I know the council's

1471
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:17,480
so detailed in their analysis that they

1472
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,920
would do what is fair and Equitable and

1473
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:27,990
live up to the Charter but you didn't

1474
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,319
just just for you know regarding a

1475
01:06:31,319 --> 01:06:34,079
little bit of Charter his history the

1476
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,440
references that are being made here as

1477
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,640
far as the the the strong Mater law came

1478
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,920
into went to a referendum in

1479
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,559
78 and that was the strong

1480
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:49,680
mayor

1481
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,760
referendum

1482
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,760
and in that and you've been given copies

1483
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,480
of yes section 90 of the on page 352 of

1484
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,960
the the code of the minute it says the

1485
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,920
administrative and executive powers the

1486
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,480
administrative and executive powers of

1487
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,160
the city including the power appointment

1488
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,799
of officers and employees are vested in

1489
01:07:09,799 --> 01:07:11,680
the elected mayor with the executive

1490
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,240
powers he shall receive such

1491
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,480
compensation be fixed by by the councel

1492
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,160
by ordinance or by law so that's was

1493
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,599
approved by the voters back back in back

1494
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:22,880
in the day in

1495
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,880
78 so then the following year city

1496
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,599
council passed the local law and it

1497
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:39,640
said it said um local law number four is is amended okay as amended the

1498
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,400
section 90 has amended by number for the

1499
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,559
base

1500
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:45,920
salary the we're talking about the base

1501
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,960
salary so in

1502
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,279
78 the city counts the the what goes to

1503
01:07:51,279 --> 01:07:53,799
before the voters is saying the

1504
01:07:53,799 --> 01:07:55,520
compensation is going to be set by the

1505
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,760
city council for the mayor the following

1506
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,559
year in 1979 the council passes a local

1507
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:04,240
law that says the base salary for the

1508
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,760
mayor is set at

1509
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,440
26,100 a year beginning January 1 198

1510
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,920
okay so it's set set a base and then it

1511
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,960
goes on to say any salary adjustment

1512
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,159
granted from time to appointed officers and employees

1513
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:21,920
not covered by a collective bargaining

1514
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,239
agreement is to apply to the salary of

1515
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:26,839
the mayor so so that's if you read the

1516
01:08:26,839 --> 01:08:29,239
two

1517
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:32,040
together this the council sets the in

1518
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,719
the first year they they set the set the

1519
01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:37,080
salary and then the second year they

1520
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,920
pass a local law that says here's the

1521
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,000
base and from time to time when you're

1522
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,480
when they adjustments to other

1523
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:47,120
management employees the man the mayor

1524
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:52,120
will get adjustments so it makes sense

1525
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,440
it's saying the salary if you're giving

1526
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:57,880
raises to other employees management

1527
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,560
employees then by operation of that

1528
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,799
local law that would apply to the mayor

1529
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:06,400
as well so it's anticipating

1530
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,199
that

1531
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:11,000
um you from time to time appointed

1532
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,520
officers not covered by the comple is to

1533
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,040
apply to the salary

1534
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,080
so it anticipates that from time to time

1535
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,359
that may be somebody's

1536
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:29,560
turn you know maybe somebody's term so

1537
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,000
because it has carved that out saying

1538
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,440
that how that can be done so you can

1539
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:38,520
make the argument that it's be done from

1540
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,560
time to time and the idea was I

1541
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,000
think that there's the base from time to

1542
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,440
time that salary will go up as

1543
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,960
management people get so that was the

1544
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,360
base from which started now over the

1545
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,640
years has that happened

1546
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,040
no no and so that that's where you know

1547
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,120
that's where we are that that

1548
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,120
Norm yeah but there there hasn't been

1549
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,640
that normal progression that if you look

1550
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,760
at okay if you're giving management

1551
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,080
employees a 3% raise just throwing under

1552
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,719
out um the mayor will get a 3% ra

1553
01:10:15,719 --> 01:10:17,679
management is getting a

1554
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:20,199
5% then management confidential

1555
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:22,080
employees would that would include the

1556
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,920
mayor um but that apparently you know

1557
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,360
has not done it's been the salary has

1558
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,159
been sporadically increased over the

1559
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,239
years but you know going back to that

1560
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:34,600
time period you read the two set those

1561
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,560
two local laws together you get you get

1562
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,560
it and it's the reason why I'm bringing

1563
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,280
it up for discussion we need to address

1564
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,679
it and you know we need to find a

1565
01:10:44,679 --> 01:10:47,760
pathway to address this and so this

1566
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,550
continue to

1567
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,520
happen go ahead please but but I think

1568
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,400
it's important to address the comment

1569
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,320
the Mayors speaking to like the morality

1570
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,360
or efficacy of our decisions I can only

1571
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,239
speak for myself and know do countless

1572
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,040
professional and personal experiences

1573
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,480
it's always said do not assume um I know

1574
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,440
coming into the city council uh I'm in

1575
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,159
my third

1576
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:13,800
year under my understanding as a

1577
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,120
legislator within the city it is my

1578
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,719
responsibility to present my opinions in

1579
01:11:19,719 --> 01:11:23,120
a fair and objective manner consistently

1580
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,760
I would say it is the expectation from

1581
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,719
myself onto the Corporation Council to

1582
01:11:27,719 --> 01:11:29,159
let me know if I can or can't do what

1583
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:31,320
I'm recommending and I would say based

1584
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,000
under that understanding we were

1585
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,560
collaboratively to make sure that we are

1586
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,880
supporting the residents of our

1587
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,880
community I would say if at any point in

1588
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,040
time we weren't doing that or or

1589
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,080
proceeding in a consistent manner I

1590
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,360
would think it would be I'm not pointing

1591
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,000
at you Mr BR you recently joined us or

1592
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,400
you Mr O'Brien I would say if we are

1593
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,960
doing something or acting out of good

1594
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,679
conscious I can already hear Mr Farley's

1595
01:11:52,679 --> 01:11:55,639
comment of two things can be right so so

1596
01:11:55,639 --> 01:11:57,239
two things can be true two things can be

1597
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:59,760
true sorry sorry sorry uh I've been

1598
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,719
saying it more recently from my employer

1599
01:12:01,719 --> 01:12:03,520
it's give each other Grace and I think

1600
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,080
as we're having this conversation right

1601
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,840
now I can uh say that I haven't looked

1602
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,560
at the stagnancy with a raised eyebrow

1603
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,719
as I see other salary lines increasing

1604
01:12:15,719 --> 01:12:18,199
um however taking the mayor's proposed

1605
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:21,520
budget as the mayor's proposed budget I

1606
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,880
looked at it as as it was presented so

1607
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,719
as it's been informed to us that this is

1608
01:12:25,719 --> 01:12:28,159
an issue that we need to correct let's

1609
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:30,679
continue this conversation so back to

1610
01:12:30,679 --> 01:12:31,719
coration

1611
01:12:31,719 --> 01:12:34,840
council what do we need to do what

1612
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,639
recommendation that you need to this

1613
01:12:37,639 --> 01:12:40,199
Council that we move in the right

1614
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:45,390
direction you can May the

1615
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:50,550
race I ask for it

1616
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,719
3%

1617
01:12:52,719 --> 01:12:54,800
most yeah that's what that's what the

1618
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,480
general prob the

1619
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:59,280
at% I don't want to go ahead and then so

1620
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,840
I just want to be clear mayor are you

1621
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,719
saying that the prior mayor made more

1622
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:05,800
than you compensation was more I don't

1623
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,280
take the retirement don't take the

1624
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,239
health care sold the mayor's car pay for

1625
01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:13,560
my own cell phone don't incur any of

1626
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,960
those other expenses that my

1627
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,800
predecessors

1628
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,760
have Miss

1629
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,080
Patrick I was wondering um because I

1630
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,800
don't think that we've given the mayor a

1631
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,360
raise since I've been Council couple

1632
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,920
years well a couple of years ago four

1633
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:34,070
year five years yeah all

1634
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,199
that

1635
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:40,189
was

1636
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:43,719
forgot 19 what

1637
01:13:43,719 --> 01:13:51,510
2019

1638
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,239
1998

1639
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:56,080
question what do we need to do 3% but

1640
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,440
does does that mean that it may have

1641
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:00,480
come January course he's entitled to

1642
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:04,880
this 3% or that's that's not that's not

1643
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,920
the level of equity that that intent in

1644
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:12,080
the code says it's the position cannot

1645
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,080
get a raise

1646
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,600
midterm well that that's because that's

1647
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,400
it's a it's a conflict in in in in in in

1648
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,159
the law and the code but there's there's

1649
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:28,719
controller's opinion for that that we

1650
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:30,480
haven't taken a deep dive and this is

1651
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,000
just something we've taken a look at so

1652
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,880
in

1653
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,400
which this sort of this sort of uh

1654
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,840
automatic pay raise if you will puru to

1655
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,760
the local law is is okay even though

1656
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,719
it's in the middle of the

1657
01:14:45,719 --> 01:14:48,760
term so

1658
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,320
because but we have to look at in detail

1659
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,520
that that

1660
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,639
opinion because it's anticipating that

1661
01:14:56,639 --> 01:14:59,320
if you read if you're reading the that

1662
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,239
the four corners of that local law it

1663
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,040
anticipates that during the course of

1664
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,639
somebody's term it's going to be going

1665
01:15:05,639 --> 01:15:07,040
up

1666
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,239
yes so if there's

1667
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,800
you controllers opinion and they're not

1668
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,719
recent controllers opinions that have to

1669
01:15:15,719 --> 01:15:20,280
take a look at but um and I thought some

1670
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,920
of those were based on we use the

1671
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,080
example

1672
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:25,920
like

1673
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,920
longevity so that every city employee

1674
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,120
gets a bonus at five years 10 years if

1675
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,800
that is in normal salary structure in

1676
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,639
the mayor is in 10 years sorry get that

1677
01:15:41,639 --> 01:15:45,040
and it happens to be in midterm

1678
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,320
it's applicable yeah

1679
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,120
so I'm trying to how how can we move

1680
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,360
forward in terms of addressing all that

1681
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,040
apply a salary

1682
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,080
increase and the mayor's entit January

1683
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,320
1st based on the that recommendation

1684
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,239
there that's only appli to the mayor but

1685
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:10,960
not any other elected

1686
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,440
official there there's there's also you

1687
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:16,239
the municipal home rule La you know

1688
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,239
section 24 that says that you can do a a

1689
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:22,080
pay raise you for I think that was last

1690
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,199
year council members got pay raise but

1691
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,080
the the pay raise wasn't affected until

1692
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,280
45 days after the period that somebody

1693
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,199
could submit a a a petition which is

1694
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:34,239
referred to as a permissive referendum

1695
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,960
in other words somebody somebody would

1696
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,880
have to go out and collect signatures or

1697
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,280
a group of people would have to go out

1698
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,280
and collect a few a bunch of signatures

1699
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,880
to satisfy the

1700
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,000
requirement but that was not what was

1701
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,600
used last year as pay raise took effect

1702
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,920
the beginning of their new

1703
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,280
term the law wasn't in fact December

1704
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:01,149
21st ter effect January

1705
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:05,320
1st that's the other rule law section 24

1706
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,560
deals with Miss referendums somebody's

1707
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,639
getting a pay increase in the middle of

1708
01:17:09,639 --> 01:17:11,719
their time but can we address that by

1709
01:17:11,719 --> 01:17:14,960
amending the city um

1710
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,280
Charter so would that be a

1711
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,199
recommendation from the Department to

1712
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,800
address that to go for to going forward

1713
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,440
every year just not have to you know

1714
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,679
pile up only wa four years or does it

1715
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:30,800
happen every January 1st or then elected

1716
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,800
city council member in the

1717
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,199
future it's up to the council it's up to

1718
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,920
the council to to to push that

1719
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,679
amendments okay go ahead please so I

1720
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:44,480
it's kind of awkward I guess to ask

1721
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:47,280
somebody if their boss deserve a raise

1722
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,600
so but I guess so if we're I'm wondering

1723
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,440
like what we would what metric we would

1724
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,480
use because like again like so we have

1725
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:58,159
some people that are getting 5% other

1726
01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,800
people are getting

1727
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,719
25% um and some of that justification

1728
01:18:03,719 --> 01:18:06,360
was as long as somebody worked here but

1729
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,520
then but that to the mayor's point I

1730
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,639
believe that the long longevity is

1731
01:18:10,639 --> 01:18:12,760
already built into a person to

1732
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,800
managements is it not to all management

1733
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,159
employees except May oh okay so that's

1734
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:20,120
probably that's what I mean that's

1735
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,639
probably something that we should some

1736
01:18:21,639 --> 01:18:23,000
people said that it does apply to the

1737
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:29,719
mar just never take because it doesn't specifically exclude the mayor

1738
01:18:29,719 --> 01:18:32,280
okay so that's what we got um Friday

1739
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,520
that's what that was a factor when we

1740
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,120
were talking about the principal planner

1741
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,600
position you're saying around um for

1742
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,239
years of service but it seems like

1743
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:42,960
longevity already calculated in that so

1744
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,239
that's just another thing that we have

1745
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:46,719
to well the longevities carried in a

1746
01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:48,719
separate

1747
01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:52,920
line okay in their

1748
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,120
budget do you have any idea what other

1749
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,960
Mayors in the area

1750
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,030
make not

1751
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,080
enough the right you have

1752
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:21,390
any makes

1753
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,719
Troy what would be your recommendation

1754
01:19:23,719 --> 01:19:25,920
from the Law Department

1755
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,560
on

1756
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,760
as um our

1757
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,960
recation would be uh to back the last

1758
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,760
time the mayor had a raise um the

1759
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,719
finance department would have to do that

1760
01:19:37,719 --> 01:19:40,800
and look at the amount that management

1761
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,320
was increased each year since sun and

1762
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,920
take a look at that number see what it

1763
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,080
comes

1764
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,800
to go

1765
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,920
retroactive yeah yeah one at a time yeah

1766
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,800
please

1767
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,760
question would it would he get a raise

1768
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,840
every fourth year of his election or

1769
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,280
every year every fourth year every

1770
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,920
fourth year so so it me the fourth year

1771
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:09,000
if we got 4% he wouldn't like say for four years it's four four four four

1772
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,920
yes he wouldn't get 16% yes he would get

1773
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,440
16% oh okay that's what I put in for

1774
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:17,400
five years ago and the council rejected

1775
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,440
it was the number was considered to be

1776
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:21,920
too big even though You' given it to

1777
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,120
everybody else

1778
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,280
so that would be the

1779
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,840
recommendation

1780
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,360
recation so so Anthony is it possible

1781
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,400
that you can U or dere work up that

1782
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,520
number for us and come back to us did a

1783
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,760
research we're going to need it tonight

1784
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,880
from 2019 yes was that the last was the

1785
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,639
last phas that

1786
01:20:44,639 --> 01:20:47,080
2019 my position would be that that was

1787
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:53,229
inadequate and didn't

1788
01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:57,830
comply far back you

1789
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,280
2019 would that be a recommendation of

1790
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:05,830
2019 all the way to

1791
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,239
20124 so the mayor's saying that that's

1792
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:09,960
he doesn't feel that's sufficient even

1793
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,000
every four if we went every four years

1794
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,440
at whatever percentage with it I think

1795
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,560
it was mostly four during those years

1796
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,679
for the management but you're saying um

1797
01:21:18,679 --> 01:21:21,560
based on the last the last increase was

1798
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,239
not adequate you feel that that would

1799
01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:26,320
not be adequate

1800
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,880
correct and I'm really looking going

1801
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,560
forward the council can convince me of

1802
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,679
some way that's going to ensure was ever

1803
01:21:34,679 --> 01:21:36,280
sitting on the council and sitting in

1804
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,600
this position that it'll be addressed

1805
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,880
yeah these numbers just so that's why

1806
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,600
I'm kind of asking if we can just go

1807
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,120
back and just do a calculation from 2019

1808
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,800
to 2024 and let's come up with a number

1809
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,360
and then bring it for discussion and

1810
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,719
move forward you know thank you I look

1811
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,000
forward how can be address this I mean

1812
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,239
if you go back to the last increase in

1813
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:01,679
2000 yes you know they were back and

1814
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,159
forth on the council like remember that

1815
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:06,159
you know it was it was a challenge to to

1816
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:08,440
get uh members to approve it and it was

1817
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:10,239
not easy at that time in

1818
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:13,320
2019 go ahead so there it's my

1819
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,520
understanding that sometimes like um

1820
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,840
some some management positions they'll

1821
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,800
be uh ra like raises will be built in on

1822
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,480
different lines sometimes and like it

1823
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:24,920
might not be as a parent when you're

1824
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,679
looking at it like so someone can be

1825
01:22:28,679 --> 01:22:31,440
manager here and then like their raise

1826
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:34,360
could be a percentage um and then it

1827
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,239
could be like a 0 five over here in a

1828
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,480
different space is that is that true

1829
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:43,149
talking about certain

1830
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:45,719
positions Char different funds I'm not

1831
01:22:45,719 --> 01:22:47,639
going to get into any oh no I'm just

1832
01:22:47,639 --> 01:22:49,239
asking for clarity from

1833
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,600
myself to be there so it's clear yeah I

1834
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,159
know but I'm asking Derek a question

1835
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:56,199
though so I can so I can make a informed

1836
01:22:56,199 --> 01:22:58,000
decision like so could you give me like

1837
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,520
an example of like like the police

1838
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,520
commissioner charged out of police and

1839
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,920
fire so there two lines poon is charged

1840
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,080
out of water

1841
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,159
sewer operating fund so sometimes we've

1842
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:13,840
done that based on the

1843
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,639
workload don't we do that with Masons

1844
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:19,080
too like during the summer the Masons

1845
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,719
they get more money according to the

1846
01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:23,320
contract during the summer yeah it comes

1847
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,320
out of a different fun so it's matching

1848
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,239
up what the actual work that is that

1849
01:23:27,239 --> 01:23:29,440
they're doing okay so so it wouldn't be

1850
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:31,480
like a manager like we say okay everyone

1851
01:23:31,480 --> 01:23:35,920
gets a A 3% raise um that would be a 3%

1852
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,159
of their

1853
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:39,679
total so it's not like a 3% raise in

1854
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:41,480
this line or anything added in another

1855
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:43,600
line that couldn't be the case right

1856
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,080
okay so go ahead please I was going to

1857
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,840
say for the sake of asking it the mayor

1858
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,000
said that the current rate was

1859
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,679
inadequate to save some time and

1860
01:23:52,679 --> 01:23:54,639
additional L work to have inadequate

1861
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:58,120
number Mr I haven't calcul we did the

1862
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,159
calculations up 219 that was I put that

1863
01:24:01,159 --> 01:24:04,120
in the budget Council rejected I wasn't

1864
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,320
remember that budget you have to

1865
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,360
remember so so here the recommendation

1866
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,400
is go go and make a finance P yes but

1867
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,880
let's look at 19 20 21 22 23 24 and come

1868
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,040
up with a number and then we'll move

1869
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,679
forward and move this budget out tonight

1870
01:24:18,679 --> 01:24:23,080
it's going to happen tonight sorry I'm confused because I thought the mayor

1871
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,440
said every four years not every year but

1872
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:27,239
we have to address all these years that

1873
01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:30,880
was not accounted for yeah so yes and

1874
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,159
then we need to move forward whatever

1875
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,800
that number is wa so you're saying when

1876
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,960
it comes to every the fourth year mayor

1877
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,920
that you're the three years that

1878
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,800
preceded it they should calculate into

1879
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,880
the

1880
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,960
that okay I just want to make sure

1881
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,719
question where where would that money

1882
01:24:47,719 --> 01:24:48,800
come

1883
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,000
from what what where would that money

1884
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,280
come from do you have any suggestions

1885
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,280
chair on where that money would come

1886
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,639
from General General Reserve where

1887
01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:59,520
salary salary line that money comes out

1888
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,040
for

1889
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,560
salary come from comes

1890
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,679
out General

1891
01:25:06,679 --> 01:25:11,600
Reserve take yesal sorry so can we get

1892
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,960
those numbers please okay we start right

1893
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,119
now yeah thank you yes from 2019 so

1894
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:19,239
we're saying that comes out of the fund

1895
01:25:19,239 --> 01:25:21,440
balance yes oh so now yall all ready to

1896
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:23,199
take money out the fund balance again

1897
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,440
okay all right

1898
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:27,960
going on here no we asked where

1899
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,719
like supped to come from

1900
01:25:31,719 --> 01:25:41,550
sucy and nobody has any objection that

1901
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,639
right I think it's because we're

1902
01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:53,229
correcting an inequity that this

1903
01:25:53,239 --> 01:26:23,229
happened

1904
01:26:23,239 --> 02:16:35,150
e e

1905
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:36,599
sa

1906
02:16:36,599 --> 02:16:40,399
trees want one I don't need it Sean you

1907
02:16:40,399 --> 02:16:42,160
have one

1908
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:45,000
Sean you need to go through it and I'll

1909
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:48,760
take it I'll take it go through this yes

1910
02:16:48,760 --> 02:17:01,320
you exra here I

1911
02:17:01,330 --> 02:17:15,270
[Music]

1912
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:20,990
Cofe remember my kid

1913
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,120
[Music]

1914
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:25,960
very beautiful

1915
02:17:25,960 --> 02:17:37,629
kids they look like the

1916
02:17:37,639 --> 02:17:39,880
mother so what you have before you is is

1917
02:17:39,880 --> 02:17:45,950
a list of all the changes on one

1918
02:17:45,960 --> 02:17:48,840
sheet and you also include the um the

1919
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:51,000
capital the adjustment that capital

1920
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:54,599
there some movements on the capital

1921
02:17:54,599 --> 02:17:58,120
side and the first two sheet is the

1922
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:03,309
um council's

1923
02:18:03,319 --> 02:18:05,840
um

1924
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:08,120
change Anthony just want to highlight

1925
02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:11,160
that I like which

1926
02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:14,319
part okay let's start from the beginning

1927
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:16,200
I'm going to do uh going to do with

1928
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:19,040
expenses first the first is the city

1929
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:22,240
clerk salary uh which the May of

1930
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:23,920
proposed budget was

1931
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:28,840
8235 um we raised the fee by$

1932
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,240
4,41 and then again we added the 5,000

1933
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:35,960
for the register and it brings her up to

1934
02:18:35,960 --> 02:18:38,319
92376 uh the depy

1935
02:18:38,319 --> 02:18:41,240
regist is because she's not because the

1936
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:42,960
city Kirk is doing the regar is going to

1937
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:46,599
be reduced by 5,000 to 4

1938
02:18:46,599 --> 02:18:50,120
47462 and the Sten which was 8,000 in

1939
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:52,760
the budget is going to be reduced to

1940
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:56,960
3,000 which is uh for the uh city clerk

1941
02:18:56,960 --> 02:18:59,399
our senior center program ARA is going

1942
02:18:59,399 --> 02:19:03,120
to be increased uh by 40,000 as we

1943
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:06,160
requested uh we have the AOG grade uh uh

1944
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:09,240
for M MOA with csca

1945
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,639
for

1946
02:19:11,639 --> 02:19:13,760
8,348

1947
02:19:13,760 --> 02:19:17,599
uh Maxine that's for

1948
02:19:17,599 --> 02:19:21,639
your the record access person okay then

1949
02:19:21,639 --> 02:19:24,040
we increased the uh the public safety

1950
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:27,200
Foundation from 5,000 to 25,000 so

1951
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:28,920
that's the other 25

1952
02:19:28,920 --> 02:19:32,439
2,000 we are adding in the

1953
02:19:32,439 --> 02:19:35,080
anti-ra racism

1954
02:19:35,080 --> 02:19:38,240
training from 0 to

1955
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:40,639
15,000 uh and then we have the uh

1956
02:19:40,639 --> 02:19:42,639
development raises we have the director

1957
02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:46,359
of development going up 4,000 272 to 92

1958
02:19:46,359 --> 02:19:50,720
281 the zoning officer is going up 657

1959
02:19:50,720 --> 02:19:51,920
to

1960
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:55,120
67,500 you have the principal planner uh

1961
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:59,240
going up 1697 to 8975 and on the back of

1962
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:01,840
the Cent page we have the home

1963
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:04,800
coordinator going from uh

1964
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:07,080
69821 to

1965
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:10,000
70,000 uh we have the uh Deputy

1966
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,920
Commissioner which was in the Mar's

1967
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:16,040
budget at 12803 to 100,000 so reduces by

1968
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:19,200
20, 803 and then uh we have the mayor

1969
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:24,280
salary going from 1, 568 to 118

1970
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:28,120
849 how do we get those right and uh how

1971
02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:31,080
do we get that we're uh we're reducing

1972
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:33,800
we're increasing the we parking finance

1973
02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:37,760
by 80,000 and at the same time uh we're

1974
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:40,040
also reducing the appropriated fund out

1975
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:40,920
by

1976
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:46,080
$1600 so we still which is good yes and

1977
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:49,240
that equals the

1978
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:52,000
78324 equal

1979
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:57,469
78,000

1980
02:20:57,479 --> 02:21:00,880
24 um want to go to water yes go ahead

1981
02:21:00,880 --> 02:21:03,840
something the water uh what we did we

1982
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,000
took there's not going to be any rental

1983
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:07,280
of that property because of the shape

1984
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:09,920
the building's in so we we just

1985
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:12,280
subtracted the 5,000 out of Revenue and

1986
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:16,319
we took that 5,000 out of expenses of

1987
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:19,640
light p and gas so it's - 5 -5 on each

1988
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:22,590
side

1989
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:25,960
last but not least is the Capal projects

1990
02:21:25,960 --> 02:21:28,840
uh which reduces borrowing by

1991
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:36,470
25,000 as you can see

1992
02:21:36,480 --> 02:22:17,790
[Music]

1993
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:21,240
questions go ahead please s timately no

1994
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:23,319
adjustments to the contingency

1995
02:22:23,319 --> 02:22:26,160
line there's no adjustments to the concy

1996
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,479
line stays at 300,000 which is a

1997
02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:30,840
proposed in the

1998
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:33,560
budget but I thought there was some

1999
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,399
movement along that line that be

2000
02:22:35,399 --> 02:22:37,080
reflected on

2001
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:40,560
this there was no move because we we

2002
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,240
didn't touch it we're not changing we're

2003
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:45,080
not

2004
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:49,560
changing they fig you fig Senior Center

2005
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,399
40,000 coming out of the linkoln parking

2006
02:22:52,399 --> 02:22:54,439
the 15,000 is coming out of the LOL

2007
02:22:54,439 --> 02:22:56,319
parking the May salary is coming out of

2008
02:22:56,319 --> 02:22:57,960
the linoln parking and the rest is

2009
02:22:57,960 --> 02:23:03,120
coming to the reduction of of salary

2010
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:17,200
of finance that so so we just added what

2011
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:22,240
essentially what 35 75,000 8,324 to the

2012
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:25,560
buget but we added that we took it from

2013
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:27,200
we just added it into projected money

2014
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:29,800
from the parking

2015
02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:31,720
correct I thought we just added to

2016
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:34,080
delinquent parking prior to this didn't

2017
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:35,279
we do that to

2018
02:23:35,279 --> 02:23:41,680
add no 60 added 80 okay so that's a

2019
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,359
revenue and we we offset it by the

2020
02:23:44,359 --> 02:23:47,120
expenses okay right so what I'm saying

2021
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:51,269
is that Friday

2022
02:23:51,279 --> 02:23:53,880
I think uh Mr Mudan was suggesting that

2023
02:23:53,880 --> 02:23:56,080
we increase delinquent

2024
02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:59,120
parking which no right but we increased

2025
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:01,880
it how much 80,000 no that's all

2026
02:24:01,880 --> 02:24:04,240
together that's including tonight no 60

2027
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:08,000
plus 80 140 okay so no just tonight we

2028
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:09,640
just increased it he discussed it and

2029
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:12,840
actually said 6 Friday and then 80 today

2030
02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:14,800
so we didn't do it on Friday discussed

2031
02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:16,760
it in I don't believe it's reflected

2032
02:24:16,760 --> 02:24:18,920
here oh okay it's not reflected here not

2033
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:22,399
the 60 because this is what we got now

2034
02:24:22,399 --> 02:24:23,720
so is that all the money that we think

2035
02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:25,279
that we can get out of the link partner

2036
02:24:25,279 --> 02:24:26,560
cuz if there's more money over there

2037
02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:29,600
then could we just if it seems like

2038
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:32,439
it's that's the money pot that's a yeah

2039
02:24:32,439 --> 02:24:34,399
I I think that's a good number for the

2040
02:24:34,399 --> 02:24:39,389
first

2041
02:24:39,399 --> 02:24:42,680
year they're pushing it you know we're

2042
02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:45,800
really trying to get them going you know

2043
02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:48,359
M we're contacting the company almost

2044
02:24:48,359 --> 02:24:51,399
every day no yeah no I'm saying this is

2045
02:24:51,399 --> 02:24:52,600
seems kind

2046
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:56,800
of all right so how much

2047
02:24:56,800 --> 02:25:00,510
the

2048
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:04,040
addition the projected increase in so

2049
02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:05,920
you used yes I used

2050
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,279
everything and and I I used the

2051
02:25:08,279 --> 02:25:10,640
difference I reduced our appropriated F

2052
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:13,399
balance and the use of it instead of

2053
02:25:13,399 --> 02:25:17,520
using you know you know 594 65 we're

2054
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:25,950
going to use 5946

2055
02:25:25,960 --> 02:25:28,360
any other

2056
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:30,080
[Music]

2057
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:33,200
question all right seeing n so I'm going

2058
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:36,319
to ask for the move in motion for the

2059
02:25:36,319 --> 02:25:38,760
budget ordinance for 2025 can I just

2060
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:40,080
make a statement before we do that

2061
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:41,760
please it's not a question but it's a

2062
02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:44,279
statement go ahead so I just first I

2063
02:25:44,279 --> 02:25:45,720
want to say thank you everyone for this

2064
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:48,680
process I there was a very this thus far

2065
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:51,279
has been a lot smoother been managed a

2066
02:25:51,279 --> 02:25:54,120
lot better than um uh my last year's

2067
02:25:54,120 --> 02:25:55,240
experience so I want to thank all the

2068
02:25:55,240 --> 02:25:57,319
council members for that um including

2069
02:25:57,319 --> 02:25:59,080
our chair I think that uh you handled

2070
02:25:59,080 --> 02:26:03,720
this uh well this year um but with that

2071
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:06,640
I just want to say that me personally

2072
02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:09,840
due to the fact that you know I didn't

2073
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:13,439
get the UN unanimous um commitment from

2074
02:26:13,439 --> 02:26:16,000
the council from some members I did but

2075
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,120
not unanimous commitment to increase

2076
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:21,000
that youth uh line via

2077
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:23,840
and I think that there's some some

2078
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:26,720
inequitable

2079
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,560
um formulas um that we're getting to

2080
02:26:29,560 --> 02:26:31,520
where we're at I that's I I can't

2081
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:33,760
support the budget that's my position

2082
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:34,880
quite frankly I don't think the mayor is

2083
02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:37,359
going to either but that's just my guess

2084
02:26:37,359 --> 02:26:39,439
so but I do think that the process was

2085
02:26:39,439 --> 02:26:40,960
done in good faith and I appreciate you

2086
02:26:40,960 --> 02:26:45,319
guys time for doing that just the

2087
02:26:45,319 --> 02:26:47,080
finance no I understand that I know that

2088
02:26:47,080 --> 02:26:48,880
I know I know the process I'm just

2089
02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:54,880
saying okay yeah so the motion U for the

2090
02:26:54,880 --> 02:26:57,960
budget ordinance for 2025 operating and

2091
02:26:57,960 --> 02:27:02,080
capital budget as

2092
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:08,399
amended motion is on the Flor second all in favor

2093
02:27:08,399 --> 02:27:15,630
I thank you

2094
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:21,920
everyone we're going to vote on Monday business finance

2095
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:24,200
Mr chairman just for for the council

2096
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:26,720
members we will G we'll get a draft

2097
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:29,160
ordinance to you by no later than

2098
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:31,279
Thursday so you can look at it Thursday

2099
02:27:31,279 --> 02:27:33,520
at the latest Wednesday hopefully and

2100
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:35,439
we'll be working a lot arm work with the

2101
02:27:35,439 --> 02:27:37,080
finance department to go through the

2102
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:39,800
numbers and and and you know look at the

2103
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:42,120
numbers and put them into the ordinance

2104
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:44,920
and as you know the Amendments will be

2105
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:47,439
attached to the proposed budget and

2106
02:27:47,439 --> 02:27:52,080
that's all part of the so will go on the

2107
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:54,960
before you next Monday so that's just

2108
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:58,800
some housekeeping way ahead for you

2109
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:02,319
all um Mr M should we do a stra pole to

2110
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:04,760
see

2111
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:06,760
because because if it's not going to

2112
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:09,439
pass maybe we should be having meetings

2113
02:28:09,439 --> 02:28:11,600
before I I think we we did that Friday I

2114
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:14,040
mean oh okay we did that Friday okay we

2115
02:28:14,040 --> 02:28:16,800
can do it back again um no okay we can

2116
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:22,429
do it back before we close okay

2117
02:28:22,439 --> 02:28:25,240
ex okay no we don't need to do it again

2118
02:28:25,240 --> 02:28:29,269
that's my

2119
02:28:29,279 --> 02:28:32,680
now any other business will find a

2120
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:34,080
motion

2121
02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:38,240
to Second all in favor thank

2122
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:41,070
you

2123
02:28:41,070 --> 02:28:44,870
[Music]

2124
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:46,439
thank

2125
02:28:46,439 --> 02:28:50,880
what oh these

2126
02:28:50,890 --> 02:29:19,389
[Music]

2127
02:29:19,399 --> 02:29:22,830
only

2128
02:29:22,840 --> 02:29:25,250
have to come

2129
02:29:25,250 --> 02:29:43,670
[Music]

2130
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:49,030
back

2131
02:29:49,040 --> 02:30:18,950
that's

2132
02:30:18,960 --> 02:32:22,880
e e