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I'd like to call the ORD this connected

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city council committee meeting for

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Monday January 6 2025 happy New Year

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everyone and our first um committee is

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finance thank you madam president so I

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would like to call the finance committee

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to order and one item on the agenda just

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connect to the police department

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temporary portable bathroom trailer

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chief on

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good evening good evening good evening

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uh we are going through the transition

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and update in the city uh police

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department currently we are without

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showers or bathrooms in the basement um

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so we are respectfully asking uh the

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mayor design to enter into contract with

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Mike's Portable they are a local company

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uh that's currently offering us portable

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showers and um toilets uh in their rate

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is $5,200 per

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month can you just tell them about the

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background a little bit on that there's

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a bit of a background right so initially

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um Mike's we contacted them because they

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were local and they've done a great job

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we put it out to bid we had two biders

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uh one the winning bidder for $5,200

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came from Tent South LLC they're out of

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uh South Carolina uh they they came up

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here and ultimately experienced problems

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with uh freezing temperatures and um

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basically just just bad luck on their

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part they pulled out the next day and

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could not honor the contract anymore U

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Mike's Portables really kind of give

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them some accolades and and a shout out

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initially their uh contract was for 6560

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per month but um they they actually

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suggested that they can honor the $5,200

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per month uh which was the lowest

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bit Mr chair follow what theant just

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said this was terminated for the mutual

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convenience both the uh for us and for

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the uh the vendor um they couldn't

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perform they thought they could it was

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logistical was as as the lieutenant has

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indicated so we both mutually terminated

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the the city as well as the uh as the

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vendor that's on the record in the city

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purchasing officer office so my

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recommendation is that the resolution go

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forward and will'll make reference to

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the previous resolution in the new

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resolution that the other one is is

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recent previous resolution we awarded we

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seem and we're awarding it uh to the new

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vendor at the at the price

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indicated so so we don't need to Res no

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it will be be incorporated by reference

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into that so you we don't have to do you

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don't have to do a separate Standalone

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resolution you can do in one resolution

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which makes reference that the reason

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why you're doing this new re resolution

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is that it was terminated for

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convenience okay any other questions I I

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support this um but I just was wondering

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so the contractor on the bathrooms does

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think that it could take a year for the

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new bathrooms in the no we're actually

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expecting the uh project to be completed

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by uh February of 2 this year so

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mid-February of this year which uh is

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ahead of schedule okay I think when we

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originally written The Proposal uh we

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had put in there um a potential six

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Monon extension uh just to just to kind

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of cover cover all the grounds

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okay any other question

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seeing may have a motion to move this

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item forward second second all in favor

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thank you thank any other business

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support Finance motion to adjourn so

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move all in favor thank

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you I would like to call the order of

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the Public Safety Committee we have

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three items on the agenda tonight the

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first of which is the discussion update

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on vehicle vandalism Mr

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M thank you Mr Williams I asked for this

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item to be added to the agenda um over

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the weekend because of What's um

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happening over the last two weekend

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there have been multiple U vehicle uh

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vandalism in the city in specific into

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area like Hamilton Hill and mon Pleasant

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and you know it's like a pattern last

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Saturday the previous Saturday and I

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would like if Chief clip may can give us

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an update as what can we do or what

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action can be take to kind of like

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increase Patrol in these areas to kind

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of you know push these um corpet trate

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off that not power in the future go

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ahead please chairman again the uh

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police

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department an hour ago

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or more put out a press release

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summarizing some of that and asking for

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Public's assistance put out some

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photographs Tings to help

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identify uh the individuals depending on

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what questions you're going to look for

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would questions be done an executive

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session because it's still a active

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ongoing criminal

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investigation I I can some some of the

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question or thing been asked to um by us

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on the resident and said what can the

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police do to help you know push this off

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people on show back again next weekend

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again and you know vitalizing car what

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action what increase Patrol things like

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that I don't think we want talk about

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you know the arrest or you know what is

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the investigation or things like that to

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be it's more of an action kind of item

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as so increased Patrol will be there you

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know somebody helping identify those

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pictures very quickly make sure it

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doesn't happen so in the press that I

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went out today it has image it has yes

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there are images available okay would

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you like me to read you the press

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release so you no that's fine that's

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fine we we'll grab all of it but I just

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wanted to know um can you and your

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officers have increase Patrol in those

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hot spot areas to kind of U detour them

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from doing this again because I mean

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it's like almost 100 vehicle sure and

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you know a lot of expense talking about

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$60,000 of expense that's a lot

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especially in working class neighborhood

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where people are struggling and have to

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you know wake up in the morning trying

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to get to work and here are four tires

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or two tires are slash and they can't

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get to work and i' only get to work but

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you're putting them in additional

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expense to to do that so they're asking

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us what can do to help and that's why

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here putting an agenda to ask we need to

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do something to help them sure so I

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would say that uh the first thing that

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we can do is is the public in the in the

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Mount Pleasant neighborhood because

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that's primarily where these are is to

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be extra vent with with looking outside

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their Windows if they hear a noise if

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they hear uh kids walking down the

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street making loud noise it could be

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these individuals um we don't know if

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they're juveniles or adults but we we we suspect the juveniles we're just not

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sure what age they are um if they have

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cameras call us there's a tip line

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that's going to be put out um with a

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press release call the tip line let us

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know about it lock their car doors don't

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leave anything in sight of them a couple

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cars have been stolen so lock their

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doors if they had the ability to park

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off Street in their driveways where

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there's motion detecting lights that

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would be very beneficial um so that

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you're limiting your risk to having your

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playes uh vandalized

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um as far as what we're doing um we have

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our our detective assigned to this case

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that works our 800 p.m 4 a.m. p uh uh

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time frame he''s been Consulting with

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our school resource officers our uh our

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the probation department um every every

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Network that we have Citywide that might

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be able to ENT identify young

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individuals that we believe are doing

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this and

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um we also have increase Patrols in

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those areas so uh we spoke with the

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patrol Chief this uh this morning and we

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will be having uh additional patrols

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regular a regular timed interval uh

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overnight uh throughout this week um so

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that we can we can make sure that we're

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out there um and as the mayor already

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indicated we put some photos out um that

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do have identifiable clothing we'd like

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to know who these individuals are so

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please give us a call if they have any

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idea and uh we're looking to identify

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them and get restitution for the for the

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victims if

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possible that's

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for thank you so is there a special

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number people should call should they

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just a non-emergency number what number

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should people call to for this

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particular our tips line is 518

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6566 and you can always call the

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dispatch the non-emergency dispatch

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numbers and and your website's wonderful

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too for reporting a tip or a crime if

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you're on your computer so yes yes Mr so

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thank you Chief my question was I don't

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necessarily want you to say anything

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that's going to like tip the people off

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like so then they're like where what

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this I guess my question is is there a

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like a certain time frame or like that

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this is happening in or is that

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but only obiously answer that if you

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feel like that that won't impede on your

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investigation I was just like wondering

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if there's like a theme there in both in

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both instances they've been the

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overnight hours okay yeah okay if if you

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had a chance to look at the ring cameras

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the videos it's about like three-ish two

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around that time most most of them not

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all of them but some of them press

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relase release time because a lot of

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residents have been uploading the U the

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videos so if you get a chance you can

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look at the videos and help I encourage

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to do that because that's how we are

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getting information on the calls yeah um

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you know because of what's going on if

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they if they have any outdoor lights

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leave them on overnight the better the

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lighting the better the cameras work you

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know they don't work work great in the low light situations um but you know

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we have a lot of cameras in Mount

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Pleasant you know there's no doubt that

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we will be able to identify them so with

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the public assistance we'd rather do it

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sooner than later and uh find out what's

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going on with these individuals and get

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them stopped

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no I appreciate U the proactive approach

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U you're taking on your your department

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is taking because it's a serious um

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concern of there res sure we certainly

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understand that and uh you know

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detective konis is the tough sign

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detective and he's been working on it

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for the last week I want to make sure

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everybody is aware of that that he has

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been working on it he's been making

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progress It's just unfortunately hasn't

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been able to make an arrest yet one of

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the concern and I told most of the

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residents who be calling is that they're

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asking that the police response time to

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them is like you know couple hours out

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but I can't you know notify them that

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they have to deal with so much um so

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much of complaint so much of call for

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the very same thing so they're working

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their way towards that is that a true

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statement is the kind of tell from yeah

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from a Tre perspective we always uh

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prioritize uh you know incidents that

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have all people over property so that

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most so that that's it's possible that

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especially on a weekend that may have

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happened

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so so I did get some of this information

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but 100 cars is

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missing I think it's up of that TS I wow

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I didn't know was that significant I

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know it was a lot yeah we had

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uh 25 to 30 vehicles on the first night

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then

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approximately it says the second

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night yeah so it it it could be close I

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don't think it's nearly 100 yet but it's

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might be 100 tires I think closer to 60

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Vehicles

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yeah

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30 Chief you mentioned about storen

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vehicle do you have look at the number

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come that because I know the first the

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first Saturday I mean last Saturday this

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have avable to a stolen vehicle is that

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correct correct two stolen vehicles both recovered and crashed crashed and

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recovered so of course you know there's some leads that'll follow those recovering vehicles

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too still working on

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that and if people have videos can they

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how can they get them to you um so the

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best way to do it is just to call us and

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let us know that they have it and then

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we'll walk through the process but

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there's a an easy way that they can

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upload them to us but we're going to

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want to speak to them and you know

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verifies their video and all that but we

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have an easy way that they can send them

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up to us um via the internet but they

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should call First yes all right thank

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you thank you any other questions or

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comments no just thank you Chief and and

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your off you know for doing this awesome

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thank you thank you apprciate you the

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next item on the agenda is a discussion

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to amend city code chapter 183 which is

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nuisance um if you can recall our

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conversation previously it highlighted

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that the ongoing nature of just noise

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complaints throughout the city is

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definitely something that continues to

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affect us the quality of life for a lot

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of our

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cadians um in the special meeting that

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we had the commissioner Divine

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recommended adjusting our nuisance code

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specifically and improving or raising

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the value Point threshold for noise from

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fre and he didn't give us an actual

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number to change it to however my

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recommendation is increasing it to six

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which would be the maximum and I think

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that takes into consideration just the

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ongoing nature of just how disruptive

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noise is to our residents and although

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it would lower it from three or four

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instances to two to have to meet that

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12p point threshold I think it takes

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into consideration not every call is

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having one infraction there might be

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multiple calls associated with each

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infraction

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um so I think it shows or presents a

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very aggressive response from the city

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and that this is something that we do

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not want to continue to tolerate and

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absolutely we understand that

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individuals enjoying their themselves uh

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and their parties or with their vehicles

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is definitely nothing we're trying to um

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disrup but making sure you do that in a

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manner that is appropriate and not

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infringing on other people's um personal

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space so if there any question questions

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or comments Mr Mr chairman you've got in

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your packing of a copy of the proposed

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ordinance which the chairman indicated

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increases uh the penalties from one

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category up to the sixth category so a

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lot of that's adding it on and deleting

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you know ring the paragraphs and also

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the bottom portion of it is dealing with

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the actual fines Mone money portion

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there's no you can that's the current

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schedule I didn't do anything to amend

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what the penalties are there for 250 400

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Etc the council wishes to as part of

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this overall package which wishes to

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increase

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those fine amounts if you do so part of

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the overall Amendment of the

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ordinances thank you any questions or

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comments Mr L yeah thank you when we had

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initially discussed this we had talked

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about the um application fee I know that

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I some templates for the Corporation

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Council and he updated some we're

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working on but the current code allows

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for a permit process and we have to

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develop the form so we'll be in the

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process of developing that particular

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form for the sound permit the code calls

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for it but as far as the form has to be

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developed and we're using the forms that

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you provided as the basis in which to

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create a simple form for folks to

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use can we at that find

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together two cycles from yes two cycles

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so we'll have two cycles talk The Form

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application the form the form

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okay thank you any Mr T yes I appreciate

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the work you've done on

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this Mr Williams um you said your

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recommendation is six points I'd like to

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know you know just in reading through

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sexual performance by a child versus um

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gambling offensive they're all six

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points I I would think that some would

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be a little higher and I mean there I

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mean this is your personal

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recommendation can we have um maybe the commissioner come back in and give

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us his recommendation I'd like to see

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some of these things a higher point six

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and then some a little lower I'm not

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sure

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um what is your well I guess my my my

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issue would would be six points for um

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offenses involving marijuana so would

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that just be smoking it on the street or

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you know six points I mean since it's

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kind of legal you know and we're selling

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it at dispensaries and things so should

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that be six points versus um you other

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things that that are on here that may be

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especially yeah a little bit more un LLY

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dealing with a child I mean different

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things like that

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so yes if you understand what I'm saying

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I I'm in favor of this I just wondered

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these are your recommendations if we

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could get some you know I say with

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respect to the noise it is if there are

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other items that are U other individuals

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like to address absolutely but I would

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say for me was specifically highlighting

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on noise um and focusing on adusting

439
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that one issue um I think often times

440
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when we do expand our scope sometimes we

441
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lengthen the timelines and I think this

442
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has been an issue that's been ongoing

443
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for years since I've from the council so

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I think wanting to just remain um with

445
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addressing this one area but if you'd

446
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like to expand that absolutely I would

447
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just want to make sure that did not

448
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delay our response in total um I think

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that's for Mr just to follow up on that

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Mr chairman I mean you can move forward

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with a call for a public hearing on

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amending this portion of the noise and

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then always revisit whatever portions of

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those various C you know those other

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categories as points so you can do it as

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a stand alone rather than doing all at

457
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one time so that's that's your option so

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you can go back and revisit those other

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sections thank you m Patrick no I just

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was not in agreement with that mooving

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yes so section two is saying that the

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following um violation is going to um

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generate um six points and if you go

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under section three that will say these

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offenses generating three points

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so there is a comparison there certain

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offens is high level one versus are low

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level point so I kind of think it's it's a good step and I agree with

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Corporation let's move forward and call

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for the public hearing let look at this

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here but we need to move forward because

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we have been discussed this way until

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last last year and we need to move on in

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because next couple months will be

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summer

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again we need we need to do something

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about it because you go across the city

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and you hear complain about the time you

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know loud music you know exhaust and all

480
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these things are happening loud music

481
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from Cars so we we need to act

482
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so it's it's a good working

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document any other questions or

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comments probably because I agree uh

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with uh Mr M was saying as far as like

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addressing this now before we weather

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breaks and we have more people outside

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more people having events things of that

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nature and I would just you know kind of

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um also let the amplify the fact that

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this again that there's an educational

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component to this as well um so as we're

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making these changes we're just you know

494
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letting people know that you know that

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we are taking a more um a Ser stance on

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this therefore I think that some of that work can be preventative so

497
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I think that that's an important part

498
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there I just didn't want of those in

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conversation Mr and that will factor in

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the the permit um application process so

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that if if someone has an event they can

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come and apply for a permit so we know

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all the details who who's promoting this

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event and you know the approval process

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they contact information so the police

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can directly contact them they don't

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need to go show up on the property they

508
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can call them or let them know you know

509
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we're receiving complaint you permit is

510
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11:00 or 10:00 you need to shut down we

511
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don't need to come over there they can

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do that in house so that perit process

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will help but this

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also and I would say last comments I

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know a lot of people uh within the city

516
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say well I call the non-emergency number

517
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and I don't necessarily see a response

518
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uh in this case this will help build a

519
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justification on the back end for

520
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Corporation Council to proceed with

521
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legal actions so if you are experiencing

522
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these types of noise issues in your

523
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immediate area please document it by

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calling the nonemergency number um and

525
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then that will help us understand uh how

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many times and that'll fuel into this uh

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nuisance adjustment moving forward Mr

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Tor thank you

529
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so again you know

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you can get a permit to make noise from

531
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noon to 6 when your neighbors whatever

532
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and I'm sure we're going to work that

533
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out but I'd also like to ask Chief

534
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Clifford maybe if he can come forward to

535
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maybe address um just a little bit about

536
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the new ticketing system um that you

537
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have which will make your officers and

538
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Patrol men uh easier to ticket uh when

539
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these instances come up like right away

540
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and how that's moving along with the

541
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department and getting to the courts

542
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so um so City Court ordinances um the

543
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way that we enforce that is it's it's we

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process it the same as we would do in

545
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arrest so the old way was we have to go

546
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and take a person into custody literally

547
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which may or may not involve handcuffs

548
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we have to we have to write an incident

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report um and then we have to complete a

550
00:24:55,159 --> 00:24:57,799
master name on the individual go back to

551
00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:59,039
the police station

552
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,679
jump on a computer write an accusatory

553
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:03,799
instrument file that paperwork with the

554
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,120
death Sergeant book that person and then

555
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,880
released them on an appearance ticket

556
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,279
that was the old way um we've we've now

557
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,679
streamlined that process to make it more

558
00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,000
like receiving a traffic ticket where

559
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,360
right there on the spot we can do all

560
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,760
the paperwork issue a person an

561
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,640
appearance ticket on the spot go back

562
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,120
the death Sergeant would still have to

563
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,559
book the person but there's a lot less

564
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,720
paperwork and that means that we we can

565
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,320
make the arrest a lot uh faster more

566
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,559
efficient um while accomplishing the

567
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:39,520
same goal um so that what that does is that that encourages our officers to

568
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,960
make that arrest um so that we hold the

569
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,480
people accountable um a lot of the

570
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,399
hesitations in the past which led to um

571
00:25:48,399 --> 00:25:50,880
advisements is that it's a Saturday

572
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520
night we're low on Staffing the call

573
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080
volume is up and officers just didn't

574
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,039
want to get bogged down for 45 minutes

575
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,640
making a loud music arrest when they

576
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
know that we have other more important

577
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,039
calls um I should say not more important

578
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,399
but more violent calls coming in calls

579
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,200
that really needed their attention were

580
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,559
coming in and they didn't want to get

581
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,200
tied up on them so um so we've been able

582
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520
to implement that process we had a few

583
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,120
hiccups with the court system and we we

584
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,240
finally worked it out with all the

585
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,120
judges to make sure that they're all okay with it uh we we tested

586
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,480
the process this year uh specifically in

587
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,679
the summertime it worked well so we're we've implemented that and we're

588
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:32,360
starting to utilize that more often now

589
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,960
thank you Mr parley yeah so Chief I

590
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960
remember in the conversations um well

591
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,320
some of the conversation was around like

592
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,880
how do we distinguishing or measuring

593
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,799
kind of like that noise like the valume

594
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:45,360
and like how how that's going and my

595
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,080
question is to you is that you know is

596
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,760
there anything that you need you know

597
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320
further from us as city council to be

598
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,600
for you to be able to enforce that like

599
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,039
cuz I don't know do we have the right

600
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,320
type of instruments or to to to make

601
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,480
that distinction between okay you were

602
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,760
just being allowed but now you're kind

603
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,640
of over this thing or do you need

604
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,080
anything from us for anything further

605
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,720
from us to support from that uh right

606
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,679
now I don't believe we do that might

607
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:11,559
change in the future as we test this

608
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:12,960
process and they go through more through

609
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,279
the courts if the if the judges require

610
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,159
some some kind of instrument reading

611
00:27:17,159 --> 00:27:20,120
then we might um but but as of right now

612
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,919
I'm not aware of it if an officer shows

613
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:23,840
up and they feel that's unreasonable

614
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,880
noise um they can make the

615
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,159
arrest thank you Mr Chief is this the

616
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:32,399
same ticket process we had passed

617
00:27:32,399 --> 00:27:34,200
through city council several years ago

618
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,600
and you had some problem with it the

619
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,559
office is there and they were thrown out

620
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:39,600
by the court and it was pushed back to

621
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,919
Corporation Council for them to revisit

622
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:45,519
the tickets yes so that was done a

623
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,720
revision and the done by cooperation

624
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,559
Council the ticket that you're rolling

625
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:55,519
out now yeah okay yeah and you have

626
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:58,360
discussion with the the court system to

627
00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,600
make sure that we're not going to have

628
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,679
another sort of a problem correct yeah

629
00:28:02,679 --> 00:28:05,279
we uh we had to change the form um so

630
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:07,799
it's all on the front page so so so

631
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,000
nothing on a second page correct yes

632
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000
that that was the problem with the

633
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,039
second page uh constitute another um

634
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,159
incident so instead of one incident it

635
00:28:17,159 --> 00:28:18,799
was two incidents and it was not

636
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,200
recorded properly something like that yeah the judge

637
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,399
wanted it um Wanted The Originals um and

638
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:27,159
by by putting it on the back that wasn't

639
00:28:27,159 --> 00:28:28,720
sufficient so we made pH photo copies

640
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,519
and so the judge just we we compli with

641
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,519
what the judge was asking for and then

642
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:35,720
we tested the process and it's been uh

643
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080
it's been working fine so so when we had

644
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,240
passed that ticket I'm trying to

645
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,880
recollect back a couple years ago on the

646
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,760
city council here it was more not for

647
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000
noise it was more General to purpose you

648
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,720
can go there and site for for

649
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200
litter uh things like that is is it the

650
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,320
same it's the same yep Yeah we actually

651
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,080
on the ticket itself it has multiple

652
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,880
City Court coordinate violations that are you probably the the ones that

653
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,159
are um that people mostly complain about

654
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:05,760
that are on there but we also have a

655
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,519
last spot that we can put anyone in

656
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:09,840
there that we wanted to so that we could

657
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,240
just like an other where we could write

658
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
it in there is it possible you can share

659
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,720
that template to the council so look at

660
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,279
that um the revise um that VI good I'm

661
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:24,000
thank you thank you me a couple years in the works when we passed it

662
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,039
originally and then we had some push

663
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,360
back from the court system and I'm glad

664
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,720
working with Corporation com to move

665
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,240
forward because that was a big quality

666
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
of live back in then we move forward

667
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,760
with that and I think it's going to be

668
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,559
well received out there and kind of make a difference in our city

669
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,559
yes um so people don't now get any

670
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,320
warning at this point in time so if

671
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,799
someone gets a loud if there's a loud

672
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:50,840
noise will call your officer show up

673
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,799
there's there's before it was like turn

674
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,679
the noise down so we don't have to come

675
00:29:54,679 --> 00:29:58,559
back Etc so now is that no longer

676
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,519
happening there there's no guaranteed

677
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,000
one warning okay you know there's a lot

678
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,039
of misconception out there that you got

679
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,159
the first first one for free there was a warning and that's not the case it

680
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:09,559
always comes down to discretion of the

681
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:14,600
officer and the condition of what they they walk into okay um and you know

682
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,799
they'll look at the premise history and

683
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,039
see if they've been they've they've been

684
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,159
spoken to before um but um you know

685
00:30:21,159 --> 00:30:22,360
there's it always comes down to the

686
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,039
situation and you know they're not out

687
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,600
there looking to write tickets uh you

688
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,720
know for any reason other than

689
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,559
enforcement and um you know if if they

690
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:33,840
can if they feel that they can get the

691
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,240
mission accomplished by speaking to the

692
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,399
person then they do it they feel like U

693
00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:40,480
this needs to be sent before the judge

694
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,919
then they'll write the ticket and and

695
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:43,960
ask them to to go and speak to the judge

696
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,039
about it okay thank you danan I remember

697
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,559
part of the um we the discussion

698
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,960
assistant chief an noic spoke about when

699
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
an officer responds then you have your

700
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,840
change over making sure that

701
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,880
communication is transferred over to the

702
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,279
next shift um but I think in a similar

703
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,240
fashion to the response with vehicle

704
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000
vandalism I I think there were a lot of

705
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,720
trigger words back in the day where you

706
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,760
hear community policing it's important

707
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,080
to recognize that putting all of the

708
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,200
onus on to law enforcement might not be

709
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,399
the best and most appropriate Way

710
00:31:13,399 --> 00:31:15,440
Forward so it's working collaboratively

711
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,799
with the community um to make sure that

712
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,559
this is received well and that we're

713
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,960
also doing our actions on our

714
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
part there were no other question one

715
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360
more question in terms of a timeline for

716
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,919
an officer to complete that process K I

717
00:31:28,919 --> 00:31:31,159
know back in then when we we pass like

718
00:31:31,159 --> 00:31:33,840
45 minutes do you have like a timeline

719
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,440
to that now if you were to go there and

720
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,559
write that ticket how much of a time

721
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,240
would it take yeah I mean you're you're

722
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,279
right in that um the old way it was

723
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,120
definitely 45 minutes probably somewhere

724
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,799
between 45 minutes in an hour and now

725
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:49,240
it's probably more like 20 to 30 minutes

726
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,639
so it's it's I'd say cut in half

727
00:31:52,639 --> 00:31:55,200
nice so the in Chief if there are no

728
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,159
other questions or comments Mr Mr

729
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:01,080
chairman I just you know uh section four

730
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,840
increase of penalties you wish to

731
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,200
increase penalties since you're going

732
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,679
for the you know calling for a public

733
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:08,519
hearing on you know increasing the point

734
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,360
system do you wish to double the range

735
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,480
that's already in there from a minimum

736
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,240
of 250 to second offense from 250 to 400

737
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,639
are you at this point okay with the uh

738
00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:22,919
the penal the fine phase at this point

739
00:32:22,919 --> 00:32:25,200
just want to increase the uh points

740
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720
system for the nuisance I would say for

741
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,200
me personally just wanted to U ensure

742
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,960
the process works complete so I think at

743
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,200
this point is just making sure the

744
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
points actually reflect the degree of

745
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,200
Destruction to the community so I am

746
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,799
safe with leaving the fines as is okay

747
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,639
um but I'm only one of members in the

748
00:32:42,639 --> 00:32:45,710
committee

749
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480
else I would agree that we should um

750
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,039
leave finds as is um and increase the

751
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,080
points okay I'm okay with that too yeah

752
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,399
I think that's what that was discussed

753
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:57,519
when we discussed this last year in

754
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,320
terms of

755
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120
General consensus was to keep it as as

756
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,720
is so hearing no other questions or

757
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840
comments may have a motion to does need

758
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
to be call for a public hearing for the

759
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,639
amendment of The ordinance increasing

760
00:33:12,639 --> 00:33:15,519
the points

761
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,039
voice so second all those in favor I

762
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,960
thank you and the last item as a

763
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
reminder amending the certain sections

764
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960
of the scy city code chapter 248

765
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,279
regarding setting a Citywide speed

766
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,159
at 25 mph there is a public hearing that

767
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:34,279
will be on January 13th H Patrick did

768
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:36,120
you have any other no that's I mean we

769
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,320
just wanted to remind folks to about the January 13th public hearing um

770
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,159
and again reinforce the idea that we're

771
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:47,840
uh proposing this as a safety feature uh

772
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760
and and we'll see how it

773
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,279
goes if there are no other items to

774
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,039
Public Safety may have a motion for so

775
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,360
all in favor

776
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,600
I'd like to call the order government

777
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,440
operations we have one item on the

778
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760
agenda um that is to review the chap

779
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,960
chapter 28 the city council of President

780
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,720
Porterfield thank you um so this well as

781
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,560
we all know the chapter 28 governs how

782
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,760
the city council works and this is

783
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,560
coming before you because at our for our

784
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,879
last special meeting there was some

785
00:34:19,879 --> 00:34:22,320
question about whether or not the

786
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,040
notification was proper in terms of our

787
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,320
special meeting um so in particular that

788
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,399
the um it was delivered via email and

789
00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:32,800
whether that was considered personal

790
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440
delivery so um based on the

791
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,800
recommendation from Corporation Council

792
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,919
it seems uh the best course of action to

793
00:34:40,919 --> 00:34:43,800
actually include that specifically in

794
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,399
the code to make sure that that that it's no longer a question so um

795
00:34:49,399 --> 00:34:50,960
what's coming before you tonight is

796
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,240
actually to amend section

797
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:56,240
28-3 regarding special meetings and that

798
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,240
email um

799
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,760
be accepted as a a notice of delivery uh

800
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,800
I will say that there were other

801
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,280
questions that came up regarding the

802
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,320
entire chapter which everyone has

803
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,320
printed out for you um and in

804
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,040
particular one of them was and Mr uh Mr

805
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,960
O'Brien has given us copies of the the

806
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,160
amount of time required for notice so at

807
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,079
this point in time it's 3 days um there

808
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,000
was a question whether it needed to be

809
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200
three days and he provided with the

810
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,280
second City's class laws which says it

811
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,320
can be um at least 24 hours and

812
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,839
um yeah so um so really opening that

813
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:42,000
discussion up whether we're um first of

814
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,800
all to amend regarding the email

815
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,680
notification and secondly whether we

816
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,119
want to um to change the the length of

817
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,880
time that the notice is required to be

818
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
out in front and let me just add one

819
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,440
other um one that I looked at that no

820
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,160
longer longer really even makes well

821
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160
makes any sense actually is uh 28-31

822
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,720
smoking in council chambers because you

823
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,760
can't smoke indoors anywhere so we could

824
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
just lose

825
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,000
that so um so it's opening up for

826
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,839
discussion on these

827
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:20,880
items I just have a suggestion in terms

828
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240
of us saying um by email can we use the

829
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,520
word

830
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,390
electronic delivery

831
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,079
I'm looking at this one

832
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,440
yeah

833
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,079
transmitter is this the um proposed

834
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,160
resolution gra yeah so I'm suggesting to

835
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,839
take the the electronic transmit here

836
00:36:46,839 --> 00:36:50,240
and replace it by by email so that way

837
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,200
we're covering all the all the bases in

838
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,880
terms of like we don't have emails we

839
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,800
can do by Tex or any other forms of

840
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,119
electronic mayor okay Mr

841
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:03,920
Mayor well I would question that that

842
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,920
you know it's how do you verify people

843
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440
are getting the proper

844
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,200
notification and my preference for the

845
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,079
wording would be for this official City

846
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,800
email address you know because you say

847
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,400
email addresses people

848
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,119
have multiple ones they have business

849
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:24,960
ones they have some that are active they

850
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,319
have some that are

851
00:37:26,319 --> 00:37:28,440
inactive uh

852
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,119
and you're going to get

853
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,880
the fact pattern where again it becomes

854
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,400
a question of whether or not people were

855
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,119
properly

856
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:40,720
notified president Port um I have the

857
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,640
same concern saying electronic that

858
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,119
means that you could text it to someone

859
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,520
and none of us are given um none of us

860
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,800
have phones that are given to us by the

861
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,480
government we we're using our own

862
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,200
personal phones so if something should

863
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,480
come up then we and they need to look at

864
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,119
our text message Etc that means you're

865
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:59,240
turning over your own personal phone so

866
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,079
I I would agree that email and

867
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:02,920
government email I hadn't um thought

868
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,280
about narrowing it down to that is

869
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
probably the best way to do it um

870
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200
because I guess I was electronic also

871
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,839
was indicated that it meant that by

872
00:38:10,839 --> 00:38:14,000
facts people are facts but that is

873
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,640
electronic delivery so um I I support um

874
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,520
you know using the government email but

875
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960
um I I would caution against us just

876
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,280
opening up to electronic delivery

877
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,560
especially given the fact that we don't

878
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,000
have phones that are given to us for

879
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,750
work

880
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680
purposes any other questions comments on

881
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,079
that Mr Williams uh so thank you for

882
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,880
bringing this forward um I did have a

883
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,359
chance to read the chapter in its

884
00:38:40,359 --> 00:38:42,880
entirety and I think as you get to

885
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,280
section

886
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,560
2018-14 uh there tends to be a lot of uh

887
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,640
certain pronouns and I thought it would

888
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,079
be important to have some gender neutr G

889
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,040
gender neutral language um as glad to

890
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,839
see that there have been a lot of

891
00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:02,040
progressive steps taken since

892
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,920
1989 thank you Mr I guess I would just

893
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,599
the fact that uh as we're as we're um

894
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,160
reviewing anything in the city code we

895
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,359
want to make sure that we're using our

896
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:17,760
Uh current luns of today so I think that would just be a best practice Mo

897
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000
for to have like home pigeons on so I

898
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,280
think any other uh questions

899
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,240
or thoughts on this so are we talking

900
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,710
about meing this right

901
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,599
now we couldn't because this is just

902
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:36,880
Essen to review it and to bring up what

903
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,839
people are bringing up the the gender

904
00:39:38,839 --> 00:39:42,640
using the government email and um what

905
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,079
I'd like to see is for us to to provide

906
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,400
the feedback that from today's meeting

907
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,440
and then to bring it back in two weeks

908
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,280
um to provide it to uh Mr O'Brien and

909
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,960
then to bring it back for us to um

910
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,440
review the changes that people are

911
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,400
bringing

912
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,079
forward Mr M can we just go ahead and

913
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,640
call for public Hearing in the meantime

914
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,280
because we have to amend the city chart

915
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,079
at the same time just you know flushing

916
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,240
out information because I don't think

917
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,359
it's a lot of information needed to

918
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:12,240
amend this section is more of a a few

919
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,640
change language I I'm certainly fine

920
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,040
with that I just want to make sure that

921
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,640
people have an opportunity to give their

922
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,839
input yeah find move we call a public

923
00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:25,440
hearing to amend the

924
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,040
section Mr Mr chair chairman as the

925
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,560
council president has said this this is

926
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,480
an opportunity for you all to review

927
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,359
thew the chapter 28 see what other

928
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:39,640
things need to be amended call for the

929
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,119
public hearing I guess that would be on

930
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,920
January 26 uh 27th and now we'll give

931
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,319
another committee cycle then to go

932
00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:49,680
through 28th and then do the the final

933
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,920
res divisions and get that out prior to

934
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,240
the uh prior to the public hearing so

935
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,000
all those changes can be made at one

936
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,480
time as just doing each

937
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,880
here so I'll AC a motion for a public

938
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,119
hearing um so second second those in

939
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:14,440
favor I I have nothing else to come before

940
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720
government operations so motion to

941
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,750
adjourn

942
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,720
so we

943
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,800
areour um all those in

944
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,440
favor thank you I'd like to call the

945
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,319
City development and planning we have

946
00:41:29,319 --> 00:41:32,000
two items on the agenda the first item

947
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,839
is recommend recommendation to the city

948
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:35,200
council from the Planning Commission

949
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,599
regarding draft cannabis dispensary

950
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,480
zoning legislation Miss

951
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,990
barash

952
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,400
um um IAM chair I'll take mrri okay um I

953
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,760
also have uh Mr Connelly from the uh

954
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,440
planning department here also to give

955
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,000
out uh uh maps of of the districts uh as well as to explain what some of the

956
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,280
districts are and while he's doing that

957
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,960
um just a a bit of

958
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,079
a you know refresh everybody's

959
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:11,560
recollection this was last before you uh

960
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,280
last month referral was made to the city

961
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,640
plan commission to uh pursu of disc

962
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,960
connected city code for their review and

963
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,079
input uh they uh reviewed it and then

964
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,640
they have submitted a uh their

965
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,280
recommendation to you regarding this um

966
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,760
the moratorium is still in effect

967
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,200
however it's expires next month it's

968
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,079
February 11th so with the cycle that

969
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:41,400
they are and the time that it the time

970
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,079
that it is um you're going to have to

971
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,280
call for that public hearing for January

972
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,800
27th on the draft and then pursuing to

973
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,520
article 12b the general Municipal

974
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,760
law amendment of a zoning code that hits

975
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,440
on the orders of other municipalities

976
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,720
has to be ref uh referred to the County

977
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,559
Planning Department because this is

978
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:07,319
Citywide so these districts obviously

979
00:43:07,319 --> 00:43:09,839
are hitting the boundaries of all the

980
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:12,599
neighboring communities so assum article

981
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,599
12b of the general Municipal law just as

982
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,520
you recall from back in the spring of

983
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,119
last year we had to do a referral up to

984
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,319
the uh County Planning Department for

985
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,720
The Vape ordinance for their comment and

986
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,520
review uh uh review and comment the same

987
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000
thing here they have up to 30 days so

988
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:37,079
you can see how time is now moving along here so um the two asks U

989
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:38,720
before we get into the details here the

990
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,079
two asks added for this committee and

991
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:44,280
for the council for the next cycle one

992
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,880
calling for that public hearing on the

993
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,359
draft on on on the 27th of January and

994
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:53,559
two a transmitt resolution of the draft

995
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:55,760
up to County planning for their review

996
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,000
and comment so those are the the asks

997
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,119
the immediate asks that you uh that are

998
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:06,079
before you to move the process along

999
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:10,240
um regarding the uh the the the proposed

1000
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,200
ordinance is that the Cannabis

1001
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,280
establishments which include uh retail

1002
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:24,000
dispensaries um as well as uh uh onsite

1003
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,720
consumption

1004
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:30,079
and uh retail dispensaries uh and micro

1005
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,720
businesses with a retail portion with a

1006
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,640
retail portion that's the kind

1007
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,040
of aspect that brings them into our our

1008
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,680
code here um cannabis estab

1009
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,559
establishments is defined above and

1010
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,920
that's in the in the code that's

1011
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,000
highlighted for you and those

1012
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520
definitions are before you um are going

1013
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,400
to be limited to as we discussed before

1014
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,880
the M1 the industrial districts M2 C4

1015
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,240
and C5 Zone districts and C2 and C3 Zone

1016
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,119
districts subject to special use permit

1017
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,400
and uh uh Mr coning will tell you about

1018
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,599
the special use permit and then uh so at

1019
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:11,200
this point I'll let I'll turn it over to

1020
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,839
him regarding the maps and as well as to

1021
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:15,480
explain those districts and giving

1022
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640
examples into those districts thank you

1023
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,480
so what the map is showing the the map

1024
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,920
is showing schools and churches as uh

1025
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,599
provided by our assessment office um as

1026
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,440
the the legislation is going to prohibit

1027
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,000
any new dispensaries or onsite

1028
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480
consumption spots within 500 ft of those

1029
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,920
so all those dots whether they be in

1030
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,520
residential zones or not um no no

1031
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,079
establishments going forward could be

1032
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:43,960
within 500 ft of those locations and

1033
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,000
vice versa if there is a new dispensary

1034
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,760
or outside consumption spot that comes

1035
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,640
in um a new school church so on and so

1036
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,079
forth could not operate in those areas

1037
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:56,119
without getting the approval from the

1038
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:59,319
zoning board to for those uses as uh you

1039
00:45:59,319 --> 00:46:01,440
know dispensaries and onsite conception

1040
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,760
establishments have been deemed by the

1041
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,440
state and the office of can Canabis

1042
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,280
management as locations that are not fit

1043
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,079
for these locations you know around youth miners so on and so forth

1044
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,160
um the planning commission's

1045
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,559
recommendation was to have it have uh

1046
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,079
their main change from Mr O'Brien's

1047
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:22,920
original legislation was to have onsite

1048
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,800
consumption spots via special use permit

1049
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,520
only um as that gives them essentially

1050
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,520
more authority to protect the

1051
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,800
residential interests um General site

1052
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,359
plan approval well if it's just

1053
00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:35,800
permitted as of right they don't

1054
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,119
necessarily have the authority to look

1055
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:39,480
at issues such as

1056
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,520
nuisances um if there's any fumes from

1057
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,839
uh you know smoking outside whatever it

1058
00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:47,880
may be they don't if it was permitted as

1059
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,559
of right that wouldn't be aspects that

1060
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:51,400
they were able to look at having the

1061
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,760
special use permit gives them the

1062
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,280
opportunity to do so and although the

1063
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,280
Office of canas canabas Management has

1064
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,880
the authority to issue onsite

1065
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,000
consumption licenses they have not

1066
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960
rolled any out yet so we don't know what

1067
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,240
these on-site consumption spots are

1068
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:06,440
going to look at and the Planning

1069
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Commission made the recommendation to be

1070
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,400
more proactive with their zoning and if

1071
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,160
the time comes when these establishments

1072
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960
are rolled out and they're relatively

1073
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,800
unobtrusive to neighborhoods and and

1074
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Residences then we can roll back a

1075
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,079
little bit but the intent was to be

1076
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,319
proactive instead of reactive um and

1077
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:31,000
give them the most Authority possible to protect the interest of the

1078
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,440
residential neighborhoods that might be

1079
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,800
adjacent to our commercial

1080
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
corridors um Madam president yes um I

1081
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,040
would just ask Mr Connelly to tell us

1082
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
about M1 M2 C4 and C5 what are those

1083
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,040
districts and uh you know give us

1084
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,319
examples for those districts yeah so M1

1085
00:47:49,319 --> 00:47:52,400
and M2 are strictly strictly industrial

1086
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,680
and warehousing no no residentials

1087
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,559
allowed um no single family multi family

1088
00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:59,880
none of that nothing of that sort um as

1089
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,240
you can see in the second half of there

1090
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:02,880
Technology Drive is an example of a

1091
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,839
heavily industrial Corridor um the Lower

1092
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,760
Broadway and grand grand uh Street areas

1093
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,800
as well off of Broadway industrial

1094
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,520
they're very there there aren't many of

1095
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,880
these M1 and M2 corridors um but their

1096
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,839
Express purpose is to have the uses that

1097
00:48:18,839 --> 00:48:20,440
aren't fit to be around the residential

1098
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,000
NE so we thought it would be appropriate

1099
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,839
to have it as of right in those areas um

1100
00:48:26,839 --> 00:48:31,520
C5 is the least restrictive commercial

1101
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,079
Corridor it's it's essentially the

1102
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:34,640
closest commercial corridors that we

1103
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,400
have to these industrial districts so

1104
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,440
while it's closer and more adjacent to

1105
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,920
residential neighborhoods um we there aren't very many of them and we

1106
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,400
generally allow higher leniency in terms

1107
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,680
of the impact that uh businesses may

1108
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,200
have so for example Upper State Street

1109
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,240
past cross toown Plaza is one of our C5

1110
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,799
business districts um cross toown Plaza

1111
00:48:57,799 --> 00:49:00,920
itself C5 um the section of Dwayne

1112
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,720
Avenue if you familiar with the the big

1113
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,040
storage Warehouse off of 890 over by

1114
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Odell Street these are just to give you

1115
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,359
a brief overview of some of our C5

1116
00:49:10,359 --> 00:49:13,000
districts um commercial but not

1117
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,359
necessarily in the same regard as a C2

1118
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,319
District like uh Broadway in bellw or

1119
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:21,079
van Franken in the north side which are

1120
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,400
commercial in nature but are much more

1121
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,880
residentially oriented than some of

1122
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,240
these C5 districts um and then C4 is our

1123
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,000
downtown which is intended to be uh you

1124
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,520
know very commercial in

1125
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,960
nature we have or should I say New York

1126
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,359
State the ocm has uh legislation in

1127
00:49:40,359 --> 00:49:43,319
place to restrict how many

1128
00:49:43,319 --> 00:49:44,960
establishments can be in proximity to

1129
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,839
each other I believe we can't have any

1130
00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:49,520
dispensaries within 1,000 ft of one

1131
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,559
another so even though the downtown

1132
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:57,160
district is very residential in some aspects um that prohibits sort of

1133
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,720
an over congestion of U dispensaries in

1134
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,960
that

1135
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,000
area um Madam chair regarding the

1136
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520
special use permit for um what are the

1137
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,880
criteria when what's the planning board

1138
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,680
mandated to to look at what are the

1139
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,880
things that the planning board has to

1140
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,760
look at if they have to if applicant has

1141
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,480
to go before and get a special use

1142
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,520
permit that's going to look at it it

1143
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,440
looks at the impact the the more

1144
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,280
holistic so to speak impact that it

1145
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,079
might have on the on the residences if a

1146
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:30,920
general site plan approval we look at

1147
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,720
purely code is this curve cut legal um

1148
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,640
you know as is the sidewalk up to code

1149
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,760
so on and so forth this is going to look

1150
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,680
at how traffic patterns might be

1151
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,960
impacted as a result of this um we were

1152
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,640
talking earlier about the noise

1153
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,559
pollution that's been happening

1154
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:50,040
throughout the city that gives us a

1155
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,839
greater authority to analyze that um for

1156
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:55,799
example something that's already

1157
00:50:55,799 --> 00:50:57,720
issuance to AAL shoes permit is is

1158
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,640
drive-throughs in most areas um the

1159
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,040
reason being is because of the pretty

1160
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,240
significant traffic impact that that can

1161
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,240
have on Commercial areas that might be

1162
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:13,119
next to residential corridors um so it gives us an expanded area to to view

1163
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,520
those impacts and how it might impact

1164
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,280
the day-to-day lives that we wouldn't

1165
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,480
have if you know for example a more

1166
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,839
mundane use that that could be allowed

1167
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:22,640
in those

1168
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,280
districts if that answers your question

1169
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,200
thank you yeah

1170
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,359
um so Mr Brian so the current

1171
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:35,559
existing um locations for cannabis will

1172
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:37,400
they will not be impacted by that that's

1173
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,359
correct they'll be grandfathered in in

1174
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:40,760
other words there'll be IL legal non

1175
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,000
performing use as long as they remain in

1176
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:49,119
that particular business the minute they move out and if a cannabis

1177
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,720
establishment does not move in then they

1178
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:55,480
lose their legal nonconforming use so

1179
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,079
those entities that are where they are

1180
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:00,559
right now that may not have fit into

1181
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,040
this category will stay there until such

1182
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,440
time they they're no longer business and

1183
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,440
for those there's some that um haven't

1184
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,359
opened yet but they they've chosen their

1185
00:52:10,359 --> 00:52:12,880
location which is outside of what we're

1186
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,400
currently discussing that this ises

1187
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,960
impact anything that's that's already in

1188
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,880
the pipeline anything that was already

1189
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,000
in the pipeline would have wouldn't been

1190
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,200
impacted they would have been

1191
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,760
grandfathered and this pursuant to the U

1192
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,520
the moratorium that you all put in place

1193
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,240
back uh in November I think and if they

1194
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,280
had put their applications in then they

1195
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,720
were grandfathered in as well um and I

1196
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,280
know that two of them also had to go

1197
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,119
through special use permits the ones

1198
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:43,319
that were already in the process also

1199
00:52:43,319 --> 00:52:45,960
had went through the special use permit

1200
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,440
process uh and approval by the planning

1201
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,520
board and that there's only one

1202
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,000
outstanding there's one outstanding it

1203
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,280
still needs to get a special use permit

1204
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,720
as well that is for a drive-thru it's

1205
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,160
not a special use permit to allow the

1206
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,280
use

1207
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,119
um to the locations wanted

1208
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,200
drive-throughs for their establishments

1209
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,400
that's why they need the special use

1210
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,359
drive-throughs are you know I know that

1211
00:53:04,359 --> 00:53:05,880
drive-throughs are allowed by the office

1212
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,359
of Canabis management are they

1213
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:10,200
yes

1214
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,520
okay all right Mr F sure I was just I

1215
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,280
was just uh curious as to like um is is

1216
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,040
this kind of similar to like what we

1217
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,839
look at when when people are like maybe

1218
00:53:22,839 --> 00:53:25,359
trying to open up a a bar or a pub or

1219
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:26,839
something like that is there any kind of

1220
00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:29,839
consistency and we view that to for the

1221
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:32,520
time being no in terms of onine

1222
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,520
consumptions for the comparison for

1223
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,040
consumption to consumption no no no just

1224
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,839
um right now it's going it right now

1225
00:53:40,839 --> 00:53:42,480
it's a little bit more restrictive the

1226
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,000
reason is for two reasons first of all

1227
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,240
ocm has restriction guidelines in terms

1228
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,920
of distances that are not in place for

1229
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,200
bars um and secondly as I mentioned

1230
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,920
there's we don't have any guidelines on

1231
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,359
how on-site consumption spots are going

1232
00:53:54,359 --> 00:53:57,839
to look yet um so if it turns out to be

1233
00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:00,680
an instance where maybe it's it's only

1234
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,680
THC infus selters or gummies or things

1235
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,200
of that sort where there's no smoking

1236
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,160
allowed maybe we could roll back some of

1237
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,720
the restrictions we could analyze it as

1238
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,880
those licenses come out but we don't

1239
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,119
know if that's going to be the case yet

1240
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:13,520
we don't know if it's going to have

1241
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,079
outdoor smoking patios or whatever it

1242
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,720
might be we just don't know so that's

1243
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,160
why we did it the way we did I guess I

1244
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,400
was thinking along lines of like um the

1245
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,920
churches and schools like the proximity

1246
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,079
the church schools as far as like what our so if somebody wants to open up

1247
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:33,799
a pup next to a school or something like

1248
00:54:33,799 --> 00:54:36,480
that it doesn't we don't have anything

1249
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,319
that this wouldn't be anything that

1250
00:54:39,319 --> 00:54:43,079
uh closely mirrors how that not on the

1251
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:47,079
local level I don't know the state lier

1252
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:49,520
Authority keeps those distances as far

1253
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,960
as and a lot of the distance you see

1254
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,720
here are based on state law the 200 ft

1255
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,960
the 500 ft to a school

1256
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,799
to state law from state that was

1257
00:54:58,799 --> 00:54:59,839
something that was discussed at the

1258
00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:01,119
Planning Commission meeting they wanted

1259
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,839
to in some instances expand those to

1260
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:06,680
make it different Mr O'Brien advised us

1261
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,240
that we couldn't alter it one way or the

1262
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,599
other just because we had to comply with

1263
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,230
the state

1264
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:16,240
guidelines Mr Tom thank you how how many

1265
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,280
applications are still pending that

1266
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,200
would be grandfathered in just one

1267
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,960
there's one there only one only one

1268
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,200
outstanding we had two at the last

1269
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,599
meeting um we have one outstanding one

1270
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,520
on Eastern Park way going into they want

1271
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,520
to go into the Old Key Bank across from

1272
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,880
the Family Dollar over there that's the

1273
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,359
only outstanding one that's left on our

1274
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:36,799
agenda on your agenda okay how how many

1275
00:55:36,799 --> 00:55:39,200
dispensaries are open in the city or how

1276
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,559
many with that one pending would there

1277
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:45,400
be eight or nine or so we have one on

1278
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,240
Upper

1279
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,839
Union three or four downtown one in the

1280
00:55:48,839 --> 00:55:51,160
I knew there were a lot in PE kind of I

1281
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,319
the applications coming in so there were

1282
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,400
three that got in right before the

1283
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,280
atorium two of them two of them have

1284
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,160
passed along um one of them has not

1285
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,599
provided all the sufficient application

1286
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:05,480
materials necessary so there's still so

1287
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,599
kind of this is it really have there

1288
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,640
been any more that have come in no not

1289
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
since the moratorium has been in place

1290
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,400
no well just to clarify this is it for

1291
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,480
within you know that we that's not going

1292
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,440
to be relegated to the areas that we're

1293
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,839
talking about they can still be within

1294
00:56:20,839 --> 00:56:24,640
the city it's just like M1 M2 and then

1295
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,599
speci I wondered if there were any p

1296
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,280
applications no the the only one that I

1297
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,799
mean the one on Eastern Parkway would

1298
00:56:31,799 --> 00:56:33,799
not fit in with this legislation um

1299
00:56:33,799 --> 00:56:35,200
that's the only last one that that would

1300
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,000
be grandfa and as Mr O'Brien said if the

1301
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,920
one on Eastern Parkway opens and then

1302
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,599
has a change in ownership or same same

1303
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,079
goes for the one on up Union Street

1304
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:45,480
those would then be subject to these

1305
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,520
regulations and and the process would be

1306
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,559
different going forward um so let me

1307
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:51,119
just there was another one on Eastern

1308
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:52,720
Park like almost across the street did

1309
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:53,920
that one not get through the process

1310
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,920
this is the same same owners so so that

1311
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,119
Family Dollar location didn't work for a

1312
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:00,720
myriad out of reason so they purchased

1313
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:05,359
the lot across the street oh okay okay

1314
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:07,839
interesting uh my and this question

1315
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:09,760
actually probably is for you Mr O'Brien

1316
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,280
so there is within the state guidelines

1317
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,440
no limit of the number that we can have

1318
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,599
within a municipality right if we can't

1319
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:18,760
cap

1320
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,200
it okay

1321
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,880
wow if we can't we can't but

1322
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,839
geez who do we talk to about I mean

1323
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:31,680
there could just be a number so I think

1324
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,599
um based on what we're doing it's

1325
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,400
probably the best way to go at least we

1326
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,039
can limit where they are if we can't cap

1327
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:42,470
the number within our

1328
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,799
municipality so at this point in time um

1329
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:46,440
those were recommendations and Mr

1330
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,039
O'Brien you're I'm sorry were there any

1331
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:49,319
other questions or comments thank you

1332
00:57:49,319 --> 00:57:50,799
very

1333
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:54,520
much so Mr O'Brien so are you saying

1334
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,640
that we need to both call for a public

1335
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,440
hearing and and also pass that with

1336
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,640
transmit it to County Planning yes Madam

1337
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,839
president yes two two resolutions uh to

1338
00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:07,520
pass you one call for the public hearing

1339
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,880
on the 27th on the draft and the draft

1340
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,559
going up the county planing for its

1341
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:14,920
review and com right Mr man did you have

1342
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,280
are there yeah are there um would this

1343
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,599
apply to any site that want to cultivate

1344
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:22,440
cannabis well that you know the

1345
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,760
cultivate is the micro business has to

1346
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,720
have a retail aspect to it and then you

1347
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,799
know if it's a if it's a a micro

1348
00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:34,359
business is is for an analogy like a

1349
00:58:34,359 --> 00:58:35,720
micro Brewery in other words they

1350
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,160
develop their own product they grow

1351
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,400
their own product and then

1352
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,160
sell so they have to have a retail

1353
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,440
aspect and that's what this is is

1354
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,119
looking at is retail and you know

1355
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:53,880
and as indicated every Everything uh is

1356
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,359
going to require a special use permit

1357
00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,599
whatever can this establishment in the

1358
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:07,150
C2 and C3 distri

1359
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,079
districts and the uh on-site consumption

1360
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:12,280
is is Mr

1361
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,799
uh is indicated is is that that

1362
00:59:15,799 --> 00:59:18,200
regardless of zone is going to require a

1363
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,079
special use permit because you would ask

1364
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,520
The Regulators the the

1365
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,559
applicants um and and us this is a

1366
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,680
developing area of the

1367
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,599
law and that's you know we're all going

1368
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:36,839
through this so if you ask any any of

1369
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:40,160
them um uh any of the actors The

1370
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,960
Regulators the local municipalities the

1371
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,319
applicants it's a a developing area of

1372
00:59:45,319 --> 00:59:47,079
the law and I think that recognizes that

1373
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,720
fact giving local control but

1374
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,119
also allowing these but also taking in

1375
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,440
consideration how they fit in

1376
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,000
and so just a follow because you and I

1377
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,359
had already discussed it's about the

1378
01:00:00,359 --> 01:00:02,559
micro businesses right and you have to

1379
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:03,760
have a we know that you already have to

1380
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,599
have an establishment um but my concern

1381
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:08,599
was that if you were had an

1382
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:10,760
establishment where could you actually

1383
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,599
what is the distance does it have to be

1384
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,200
25 miles outside the city is it within

1385
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,319
25 miles of of their business what is

1386
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:24,160
yeah Madam chair it's it's 25 miles if

1387
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,680
they have one in here within that 20 M

1388
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,880
radius their

1389
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,640
cultivation part has their cultivation

1390
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,359
part of the operation has to be within

1391
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,480
that 25 mile radius of where they're

1392
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,990
located for the retail

1393
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,880
operation and they would have to have a

1394
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,920
special permit to for the

1395
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,520
cultivation um in those those C2 or C3

1396
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,359
now you know you know regarding the

1397
01:00:49,359 --> 01:00:52,920
cultivation aspect that has you know

1398
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,000
whole separate requirements as far as

1399
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,520
you know how many square feet

1400
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,839
Etc so

1401
01:01:00,839 --> 01:01:03,559
um you could ask for a special use for

1402
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:05,599
the cultivation aspects of it for

1403
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:09,079
example cultivation aspects only not the

1404
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:12,680
retail aspects right so cultivation

1405
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,760
aspects because that's a whole different

1406
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,880
aspect it's not a retail it's not it's a

1407
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,760
cultivation well for the sake of the

1408
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,799
council um I I think that that may be

1409
01:01:23,799 --> 01:01:26,119
something we want to consider uh for a

1410
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,440
special permit for a cultivation aspect

1411
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,880
because based on what what I'm

1412
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,200
understanding is that conceivably if you

1413
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,559
have a large enough property within the

1414
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:38,319
city you can use it for cultivation if

1415
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:43,670
you own or own an

1416
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,640
establishment I don't know how long is

1417
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,160
the large Jack you

1418
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,640
know I I don't know exactly the

1419
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,240
specifications for the lot size that

1420
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,359
would be required for this but you

1421
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:54,720
couldn't just put it anywhere you know

1422
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,079
it would still need to be commercial

1423
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:58,880
owned um and it would it would still be

1424
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,520
sub you know if it was M1 M2 C4 or and

1425
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,319
C5 C4 would probably not fit into that

1426
01:02:05,319 --> 01:02:07,079
just because the generally speaking the

1427
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:12,119
lot sizes are smaller um M1 M2 C5 have

1428
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:14,000
been determined that those would be more

1429
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,200
suitable for it as they're more

1430
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,839
commercial more business

1431
01:02:16,839 --> 01:02:20,799
oriented if it was that case C2 C3 would

1432
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:22,680
be as we said before special use permit

1433
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,200
and it wouldn't apply to any residential

1434
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,000
zones at all so Mr if you could just provide us with

1435
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,520
the information about the cultivation

1436
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,520
part of it I know that we're going to

1437
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,400
move ahead what you can do just you know

1438
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,039
just move things forward here is just

1439
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,119
you know we change that one aspect where

1440
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:45,720
it requires a special use permit for the uh the on-site consumption and just

1441
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,279
say micro bus the cultivation

1442
01:02:49,279 --> 01:02:51,480
aspects not the retail but the

1443
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,400
cultivation aspects of of a micro

1444
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,990
business will require a speci

1445
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,359
yes I would I think that would um make

1446
01:03:02,359 --> 01:03:03,960
it at least that would be some say and

1447
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,000
have to come before the Planning

1448
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,640
Commission

1449
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,640
yeah we can do that I I can you know

1450
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,520
I'll mark that up add that into that one

1451
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,799
section down there and then you can go

1452
01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:16,880
forward with the resolutions and and

1453
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,279
you'll have the final draft for next

1454
01:03:20,279 --> 01:03:21,559
week anyhow because it has to be

1455
01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:23,720
transmitted up to the county so I'm

1456
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,000
going to add that language okay thank

1457
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,799
you any other discuss discussion on this

1458
01:03:29,799 --> 01:03:32,200
okay so um our next item is to actually

1459
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,799
call for a public hearing regarding the

1460
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:38,880
zoning ordinance so second all in

1461
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,760
favor and um also additionally we need

1462
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,599
to um um have a motion to transmit to

1463
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:48,279
the count to County

1464
01:03:48,279 --> 01:03:53,390
Planning some second all those in

1465
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,240
favor is there anything else to come

1466
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,039
before development and

1467
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,400
planning if not ask for a motion to

1468
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,520
adjourn so move second all in favor we

1469
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,720
are adjourned thank you like to call the

1470
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,039
order of the claims committee we have

1471
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:08,400
three items on the agenda tonight um

1472
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,079
three of these will need to be discussed

1473
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:11,720
in the ex

1474
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,079
session have Mo ex

1475
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:17,920
session second session all those in

1476
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,799
favor all we are exective session

1477
01:04:19,799 --> 01:04:26,460
members of the public will have to

1478
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:34,319
[Music]

1479
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:36,960
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