1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:24,620 [Music] 2 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:24,660 [Applause] 3 00:02:24,660 --> 00:03:12,270 [Music] 4 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,640 off govern offic 5 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,879 first I'd like to call the ORD connect 6 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:19,640 the city council committee meeting for 7 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,040 Tuesday February 18th 8 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,360 2025 the first um committee is 9 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,319 government 10 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:28,280 operations I'd like to call order 11 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,319 government operations we have two 12 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,680 items on the agenda today the first is 13 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,959 the United neighborhood appointment to 14 00:03:35,959 --> 00:03:37,799 cprb Mayor 15 00:03:37,799 --> 00:03:39,959 McCarthy thank you Mr 16 00:03:39,959 --> 00:03:43,120 chairman submitted uh I think have the 17 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,879 attached 18 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:49,439 resume which was the recommendation 19 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:53,079 from son know council president raising 20 00:03:53,079 --> 00:03:54,640 a question on that but that just 21 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,280 happened it's still in the code 22 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,239 requiring that to be a standing 23 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:01,920 organization where we take references 24 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,040 from and so at this point 25 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,439 to look to be able to get a quum on the 26 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:12,360 board would ask for the council to move 27 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,120 this forward well the email said that 28 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,560 they're disbanding it and deactivating 29 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,919 it for now so sun's not even going to 30 00:04:18,919 --> 00:04:20,799 meet until they can get a number of 31 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:22,560 people there the email that Lori sent 32 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,400 and um she's going to send it to the 33 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 entire Council I just was got that one 34 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,039 which I forwarded to you so I would hope 35 00:04:29,039 --> 00:04:30,800 that we could wait until they made that 36 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,039 final decision before so you're going to 37 00:04:32,039 --> 00:04:35,479 change the criteria for the police 38 00:04:35,479 --> 00:04:37,479 Community review board also we would 39 00:04:37,479 --> 00:04:39,320 have to if they're going to deactivate 40 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,919 because they're on it's in the cold that 41 00:04:40,919 --> 00:04:42,520 they are part of them but they're saying 42 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,960 they're not going to meet anymore 43 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,199 something that we don't have control 44 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:48,479 over so if we could just wait until they 45 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:49,960 she's on vacation right now and she 46 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,120 comes back and we can have that 47 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,919 conversation on what that would look 48 00:04:52,919 --> 00:04:54,800 like and hold up until 49 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,759 then Mr um I have been in contact with 50 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:00,759 the chair for the even prb unrelated 51 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:02,720 this issue I will be attending their 52 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,680 upcoming meeting in March I know they 53 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,720 had a number of suggestions for changes 54 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,000 so I don't think that would be uh that 55 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,479 fall in line with addressing and 56 00:05:11,479 --> 00:05:17,309 bringing up this issue as 57 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,280 well so I was wonder if we could just 58 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,639 hold it for two weeks until m m uh the 59 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:23,840 president of of sun comes back and have 60 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:25,199 a conversation with her and I don't know 61 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,919 if we'll need to change the code but 62 00:05:26,919 --> 00:05:28,960 they she her email clearly was that 63 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,160 they're going to not be meeting 64 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,319 okay I don't have any problem with that 65 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:35,880 I don't have the information any other 66 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,479 questions comments concerns around that 67 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:41,960 I'm go to okay all right I'll bring you 68 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,880 back two weeks um second item on our 69 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,479 agenda is amending chapter 28 70 00:05:47,479 --> 00:05:50,160 disconnected the city code and updated 71 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,800 update the outdated language president 72 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,639 pteri thank you so uh we know that we 73 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:56,680 had our initial concern and what brought 74 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,039 this forward was uh about meet getting 75 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:02,199 meeting this is via email versus in in 76 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:06,479 person or or snail mail us U postal mail 77 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:08,720 so we already changed that but in that 78 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,360 conversation some other things came up 79 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,880 that people FL the language is outdated 80 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,960 especially as it related to gender so um 81 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,120 that's what this Mr uh O'Brien has 82 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,599 brought forward and put forward some 83 00:06:20,599 --> 00:06:23,280 things that and changed it from him to 84 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:26,479 them or there or um or the member so 85 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:28,479 this is for everyone to review I did 86 00:06:28,479 --> 00:06:30,039 have one other question though there was 87 00:06:30,039 --> 00:06:32,240 there's um one of the part on the code 88 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,720 because this isn't the entire code right 89 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,560 here right this is just what the 90 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,080 discussions are last time so the one 91 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,199 where the very last um item in there 92 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,800 about uh smoking and Chambers um you can 93 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,680 always leave that in there because that 94 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,039 way in case the law on nationally or not 95 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:50,400 nationally the the law Statewide changes 96 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,280 no smoke in the chambers always that I 97 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,879 mean it's it's it's you can delete it 98 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:59,039 but it's always good to have I mean I 99 00:06:59,039 --> 00:07:00,560 think 100 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,240 um I know it's it's Statewide but you 101 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,160 never know therefore you just leave it 102 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,000 as is okay whatever you want to do I to 103 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,960 me it's it's null and void because we 104 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,879 don't smoke inside I don't smoke period 105 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:16,400 but um but if living it there is no harm 106 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:23,120 then it yes M um I was just wondering on Section 107 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,759 2824 procedure for Resolutions it says 108 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:27,840 that we have to get our resolutions to 109 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,319 the city clerk no later than 12 12 noon 110 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,840 on the Thursday and I think it's isn't 111 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,520 it 1:00 or is that just practice now 112 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,280 it's probably this is the code so this 113 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,599 is 114 00:07:38,599 --> 00:07:43,000 the and because the reason um is that 12 115 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,280 noon is because the legislative 116 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,840 conference happens at 1:30 1:45 so Sam's 117 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,039 given that additional hour to give you 118 00:07:50,039 --> 00:07:51,960 that room but if you want if we want to 119 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,479 move it up we can we can always V 120 00:07:53,479 --> 00:07:55,560 strictly by the code and make sure it's 121 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,560 I like the 1:00 the 1:00 works for me I 122 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 just didn't know if changing in here 123 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,440 she's just giving that the grace that 124 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,479 you know so people can get it in the 125 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:09,560 same Mr chairman if if the council's 126 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,120 okay with proposed amendments as 127 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,199 indicated in the outline here um we 128 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,680 require a public hearing and I'll you 129 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,440 can do a resolution calling for a public 130 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,039 hearing and then uh this will be have a 131 00:08:20,039 --> 00:08:21,759 public hearing on the 10th and then you 132 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:32,750 can take care of this on the 24 of okay so a motion to um 133 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,440 call 134 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,240 to move I I'll move it I'll call for 135 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,039 public hearing when that will be the 136 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:44,800 10th of March okay I'll second okay all 137 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 those in favor hi hi okay that's the 138 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 last item on our agenda for government 139 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,959 operations um so I take motion to ajour 140 00:08:53,959 --> 00:08:56,279 so move second those in 141 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:58,480 favor I'd like to call to order the 142 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Public Safety Committee we have we have 143 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,320 one item on the agenda tonight that is 144 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,480 the discussion for the review of noise 145 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,160 permanent applications 146 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Mr thank you uh Mr chairman um and thank 147 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,760 you for holding this um until I get back 148 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,079 um this is something that we have been 149 00:09:16,079 --> 00:09:18,839 working um with for quite some time for 150 00:09:18,839 --> 00:09:21,240 a couple years now and finally we were 151 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,120 able to pass the noise amended noise 152 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,279 ordinance and I think it's fitting that 153 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:30,200 we um we also passed um look at a formit 154 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,959 application that we put in place so that 155 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:35,079 we do not deny someone who would like to 156 00:09:35,079 --> 00:09:37,720 do a 5-year-old birday party in the 157 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,560 backyard but at the same time we want to 158 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:43,880 put things in place that we can hold 159 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,680 these private events in your backyard 160 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,320 but at the same time have respect for 161 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 others in the surrounding neighborhood 162 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,480 so what we have here and I want to thank 163 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Corporation Council and staff for 164 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,000 working with this and put this together 165 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,920 and chief Clifford and team to review it 166 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,760 and to come back with changes to the 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,079 coporation council and to kind of um 168 00:10:07,079 --> 00:10:09,600 preliminary um agree with the format 169 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,839 that we have in front of us here so what 170 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:13,240 we have here I would like to just you 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,839 know open up for discussion review and 172 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:18,279 if you would like to suggest any changes 173 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:19,839 or you would like to add anything or 174 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:22,880 delete any any stuff let us know before 175 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,310 we move for with this um perit 176 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,560 application any questions M PTO so will 177 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,200 in terms of getting a permit is it going 178 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,560 to be similar to like when there's a 179 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,680 street closing multiple departments have 180 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,839 to sign off on it would it be similar to 181 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:41,720 that was that your that was not the 182 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,880 intent okay um Mr chairman the intent 183 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,639 was that just right now the code says 184 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:49,760 the the chief of police is the the 185 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,639 designated person or there designate and 186 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:54,880 that's what this is it goes to the chief 187 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,760 police they make the decision they know 188 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,040 you know where it's going to be and who 189 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,959 the points of contact are and and just 190 00:11:03,959 --> 00:11:07,040 following up with Mr M veren's comments 191 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 and and to thank him for providing us 192 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,560 with models from the city of New York 193 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,720 and some towns out on of Long Island so 194 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,000 this this template that see you know is 195 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,839 kind of a 196 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:21,560 u combining those and trying to make it 197 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:25,120 as simple and easy to use as possible 198 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:31,959 okay thank you m p yes um thank you um thanks for putting this together um 199 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:33,800 and I appreciate that we're doing this I 200 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,480 just had a couple of questions um I'm 201 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,880 wondering about the whole professional 202 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,279 fundraiser thing I'm assuming it that it 203 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:42,639 must be part of a law or something that 204 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:44,880 the person has to be a professional 205 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,639 fundraiser and where are you getting 206 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:49,240 that from on the first page on page well 207 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,880 in our packet is I think it's just it's 208 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,160 kind of is the applicant just just 209 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,079 putting us on notice this is a 210 00:11:56,079 --> 00:11:58,279 fundraising event or is it's a 211 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:00,279 professional fundraiser is going to be a 212 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:02,399 fundraising EV if you don't want to have 213 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:03,839 that in there you don't have to have 214 00:12:03,839 --> 00:12:05,480 that in there that was something we saw 215 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,320 in some of the applications out on one 216 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Island they have that mhm cuz I would 217 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,959 think that there might be you know um 218 00:12:11,959 --> 00:12:15,760 smaller Grassroots organizations that um 219 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,320 I I guess is that going to influence a 220 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,839 decision about whether somebody gets a 221 00:12:18,839 --> 00:12:21,079 permit because just as an example 222 00:12:21,079 --> 00:12:22,639 someone might be having an event at The 223 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:24,519 Pavilion at Central Park for example and 224 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:25,800 they might just be a 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,079 Grassroots volunteer organization that 226 00:12:28,079 --> 00:12:30,680 doesn't have um staff at all or 227 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:31,760 professional you know you know what I'm 228 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,560 saying so I'm not sure if we need that I 229 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:37,360 guess what I'm I mean if go ahead so I 230 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,360 think it's just for a point of 231 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,839 information I don't think it's going to 232 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:42,399 prohibit them from from smaller groups 233 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:43,800 that you talked about from doing it it's 234 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,560 just for our information to know who's 235 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:50,600 actually putting it on is how I see that particular question okay and then 236 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,880 um just two other things one is um in 237 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,279 terms of the proof of identity which I 238 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:58,360 think it needs to say proof of identity 239 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,160 but um same on still on page one down a 240 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,760 little bit got it um just wanted to 241 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,079 inquire about that so I want to make 242 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:10,880 sure that we're not um putting up a 243 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,720 barrier um you know if someone doesn't 244 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 have a driver's license I know it says 245 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,760 other form of photo ID but you know that 246 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,160 might be a passport um but I mean what 247 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 would be the other acceptable photo ID I 248 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,920 think the the beauty of that is official 249 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,839 it it doesn't limit you 250 00:13:29,839 --> 00:13:31,519 from an official means some sort of 251 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,079 government entity whether it be a 252 00:13:33,079 --> 00:13:35,959 passport or Sheriff's ID or a driver's a 253 00:13:35,959 --> 00:13:39,079 non driver's license ID issued by Motor 254 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:41,959 Vehicles something like that so the so 255 00:13:41,959 --> 00:13:45,079 the because we are asking the 256 00:13:45,079 --> 00:13:46,800 individuals to be have a responsible 257 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,519 contact responsible person Etc this is 258 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:51,279 just a matter of confirming that we'll 259 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,800 take some sort of official ID so the 260 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,320 person who's signing this is who they say they are so it's it's I think 261 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,880 by saying official photo ID we're not 262 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,279 limited to any particular Source but it 263 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,240 has to be a government and I think 264 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,519 that's implied okay and then my final 265 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:12,160 thing is um 266 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,680 whether we need to ask someone's age I 267 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,320 mean would there be um you 268 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,839 know if it was just a teenager with no 269 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:24,199 parent or Guardian um is that something 270 00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:26,600 that we want or once again I think it's 271 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,240 for situational Awareness on 272 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,120 right no we we don't have that on here 273 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,880 we don't ask we don't ask them for their 274 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,600 age I'm not again I'm not trying to put 275 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,920 up barriers but I just want 276 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,360 to I I don't you 277 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,199 know I we have not asked and you're 278 00:14:44,199 --> 00:14:45,880 saying we should ask is that what you're 279 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,160 saying I'm not sure I mean again must be 280 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,600 over yeah that's what I was if it's 281 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,920 using a public space if it's using no 282 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,959 these are private um private this is not 283 00:14:56,959 --> 00:14:59,839 for public space these are for private 284 00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:03,000 um private events then maybe somebody 285 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,360 would need to have a parent or Guardian 286 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,839 so whe rather than ask someone their age 287 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:09,880 we could if if if you feel there's a 288 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,920 stipulation there should be a 289 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,000 stipulation that younger a person under 290 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,440 18 let's use that it for example then we 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,480 could always put in there that um 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,600 permits are only issue to individuals 18 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,880 and older well or have a parent or 294 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Guardian signature or something the that 295 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,199 means that the parent would have to get 296 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:26,639 the permit maybe the parent would be the 297 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,079 getting the permit that's not a bad IDE 298 00:15:29,079 --> 00:15:31,120 yeah right so why don't we just add 299 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,959 applicant must be over 18 yeah we I just 300 00:15:35,959 --> 00:15:37,759 good point good point no that makes 301 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:39,399 sense so we can just put applicant must 302 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:43,600 be over 18 years yes any other questions 303 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,319 or comments um M Toro thank you so I I 304 00:15:48,319 --> 00:15:51,319 again will there be a cost associated 305 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:52,839 with this yes that's what I was going to 306 00:15:52,839 --> 00:15:55,040 address we discuss it but um we just 307 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,399 want to bring it to the council um there 308 00:15:57,399 --> 00:16:01,000 is no cost in the there is no fees for 309 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,680 this I mean the the sound noise 310 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,279 ordinance does not set a fee it says 311 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:12,360 that that it this is issued by the chief 312 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,639 of police and it does not set a fee so 313 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:16,839 whether you want a set a fee that's 314 00:16:16,839 --> 00:16:18,639 going to require an amendment to the 315 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:21,279 city code right now this is in keeping 316 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:23,319 with the code this is this is an 317 00:16:23,319 --> 00:16:26,079 application based on the code if you're 318 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:29,759 looking to formalize through a fee then 319 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:30,800 you're going to have to have a public 320 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,639 hearing and then the ordinance is going 321 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,360 to be have to be amended so it's up to 322 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 you what you want to do on on on that Mr 323 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,800 I was say can can I finish I have a few 324 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 questions is that was it an additional 325 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,920 question or were you going to comment on 326 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,959 that additional questions I think people 327 00:16:47,959 --> 00:16:50,120 going to comment on that response okay 328 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Mr so quickly what I was going to say is 329 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,160 that um this seems like a tool so in 330 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,120 case there's somebody at their house and 331 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,440 having an event 332 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,720 and it's loud and police have to respond 333 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,160 and therefore we have a record of the 334 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,640 point person who we can say listen you 335 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,360 know this is the person in J in charge 336 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,679 of this event so I think that that was 337 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:12,000 the purpose for this more than uh trying 338 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,720 to uh further tax people have another 339 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,400 fee I don't think that that's the 340 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,679 intention and then Mr M yes and exactly 341 00:17:20,679 --> 00:17:22,120 to the point when this was discussed 342 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:24,280 initially is how do we utilize our 343 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,520 police resource in a better way rather 344 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,000 than we sending to office or there just 345 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 to tell someone loading music down here 346 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,080 we have information on the desk and 347 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,280 precin to call this individual to let 348 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,799 them know that you're you know music is 349 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,039 loud we're getting complaint you need to 350 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:40,559 turn it down if you don't turn it down 351 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:41,960 we have to come out here we're going to 352 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,679 have to issue a citation so this is kind 353 00:17:44,679 --> 00:17:47,880 of like helping to kind of utilize or U 354 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,200 the Staffing in a better way at the same 355 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,039 time um in terms of fees yes we did 356 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:55,200 discuss it initially but um we didn't 357 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,120 arrive we were talking about 100 we're 358 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,360 talking about 50 we were talking 359 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,760 $25 so I say let's bring it to the 360 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,400 counil and let's see what collectively 361 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,080 we can add because yes this will will be 362 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,039 taken away sometime to put the permit 363 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,799 together and things like that and to 364 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:17,159 kind of like Mand this in a way that you know if there has to make calls and 365 00:18:17,159 --> 00:18:19,880 things like that so this this individual 366 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,320 which we hope not um so I think um I 367 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,039 have in agreement that we put a fee 368 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:28,200 attached to this but how much I will 369 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,200 defer to to my colleagues to say what 370 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,919 about the best possible fee we can 371 00:18:31,919 --> 00:18:33,520 attach here and at the same time yes 372 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,400 once we put a fee to this we'll have to 373 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,559 call for a public hearing so I'd say in 374 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:40,600 my response to that I would kind of 375 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,960 respond the the opposing I don't agree 376 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,640 with us putting in place a fe I think 377 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,799 especially in a year where taxes both in 378 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:49,360 the city and county I think there was an 379 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,440 article saying that those have increased 380 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,080 I would agree with Mr Farley that this 381 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,320 my support for this was to provide a 382 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 clear means of addressing just um 383 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,120 excessive noise and then also providing 384 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,360 the police as you highlighted with the 385 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:05,480 point of contact I think if we attribute 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,400 a feed to this too early I think it 387 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,400 might deter people from processing 388 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,679 forward with these um again I would look 389 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:13,480 at this from a cost savings to your 390 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,919 point Mr M if officers have this 391 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:18,640 information at the beginning um this may 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,840 make it easier for them to address potential uh calls for excessive 393 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,159 noise and I know Mr turo had additional 394 00:19:25,159 --> 00:19:27,640 points but mine was going to say to add 395 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,840 in a component that required or expected 396 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,520 anyone submitting for a permit to notify 397 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080 their adjacent neighbors just so that 398 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,880 ensures that there is just clear 399 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,950 communication all 400 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,400 around we can add that about the 401 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,440 application applicant acknowledgement 402 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,360 form we'll just add that and bold you 403 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,280 know a whole bunch of acknowledgements 404 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,120 down here we just add that Mr Carl um 405 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,840 thank you so I guess uh my next question 406 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,320 would be um we know that the response 407 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,919 time for police for noise complaints can 408 00:20:04,919 --> 00:20:05,880 be very 409 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,720 lengthy um who intends to make these 410 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,480 phone calls and um having a party do you 411 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,440 think uh the individual hosting the 412 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,039 party has a cell phone on them all the 413 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:17,679 time and if the music's Lou are they 414 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:19,240 going to be able to hear the phone call 415 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,840 which would prompt a visit from the 416 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,360 police anyway meanwhile the neighbors 417 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,880 next door are trying to enjoy an 418 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,600 afternoon um of peace after a hard week 419 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,039 of work or whatever gardening and 420 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:35,679 there's loud noise I probably have more 421 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:38,080 noise complaints and a combination of 422 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,679 all of you sitting around the table from my neighborhood at times uh where 423 00:20:42,679 --> 00:20:47,039 the complaints are addressed 2 4 6 8 424 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:50,240 hours later and only because that our 425 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,200 Police Department is busy making other 426 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,799 calls in the city I'm not in favor of a 427 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:59,000 permit to make noise um I just don't 428 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,880 think uh it's something that we should allow especially 429 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,640 just we're going to tell you there's six 430 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,360 points now that we just passed for noise 431 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,320 but yet you where you're allowed to make 432 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,159 noise if someone says you can make noise 433 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:18,200 at a certain hour I I just don't think 434 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,039 that we should have a sound here in the 435 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,400 city Miss bfield so I don't I don't see 436 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,279 this as a permit to make noise it's just 437 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:28,799 trying to regulate because they because 438 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:30,279 the noise is already being made the 439 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:31,760 noise is already being made I'll finish 440 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,200 my point and so this isn't u a permit to 441 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,559 say hey you can make noise cuz they're 442 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,679 already doing it this is a way for us to 443 00:21:38,679 --> 00:21:40,960 keep track of what's going on and and 444 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,520 also we just added that the neighbors 445 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,159 would have to be informed so this is 446 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:45,840 just what for us to try to get a better 447 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,120 handle on what's already going on and 448 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:50,320 making people aware that you're you 449 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,799 signing this permit that you will go by 450 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:53,440 these guidelines that you will inform 451 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,360 your neighbors and those things it's 452 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,440 already happening we're just trying to 453 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,880 essentially regulate what already 454 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,480 happening not not saying make more noise 455 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,159 cuz I am not going to pull a permit to 456 00:22:03,159 --> 00:22:05,480 make noise I don't I don't do that now 457 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,880 and many of my neighbors don't do that 458 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,159 now so I'm expected to start happening 459 00:22:09,159 --> 00:22:11,799 since we have this so who who who Mr 460 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:14,200 mudon will be responsible for calling 461 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,200 these individuals that are hosting a 462 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,279 city code um is clear that the police 463 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:22,200 department is responsible for this this 464 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,919 forment must yes I mean and just to 465 00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:26,760 follow up on the council president's 466 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,559 earlier comments the individuals by 467 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:31,600 acknowledging you still have to comply 468 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,919 with this connected city code in fact 469 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:38,360 they're giv a copy of the ordinance and 470 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,320 they still have to comply with the you 471 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,760 know the the the sound re you know you 472 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,440 know this the sound the noise limits as 473 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,159 set forth in that code this doesn't give 474 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:51,840 them an exemption this this is just 475 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,440 saying this is what we're doing we're 476 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840 putting you on notice this is what I got 477 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,440 to do and is just for for us and the 478 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,559 city to go out and if there's any issues 479 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:03,600 they have a point of contact in which to 480 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 reach but in order to get this there 481 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240 they're getting given a copy of the code 482 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,360 and the acknowledgement says and says I acknowledge the sound reproduction 483 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,559 rules of section 1824 J applied 484 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:18,039 regardless of a sound permit any 485 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:20,000 violations of disconnected noise ordance 486 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240 will be prosecuted so it's putting them 487 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,120 on notice in sound reproduction is um 488 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,679 you know noise you know between the 489 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:29,640 hours 11 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. the 490 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,520 following day I mean you can go through 491 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000 all the requirements of that section 492 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,120 dealing with that applies and they're 493 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,080 put on notice that 494 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,360 applies so they that's it's it's it's a 495 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,480 point of contact it's putting them on 496 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,279 notice and uh uh the noise ordinance 497 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,200 requirements all comply uh before 498 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,679 switching to Mr mudaron I would say I 499 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:58,080 think an underemphasized point from our 500 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,880 previous Year's budget proceedings was 501 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840 the fully um fully approving the 502 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,039 budgeted request from the fire 503 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:07,440 department and the police department so 504 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,960 on paper they have all of their 505 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,840 requested positions now does that mean 506 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,159 they have them in departments no because 507 00:24:13,159 --> 00:24:14,200 there's some individuals going through 508 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520 the academy however that pipeline was 509 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,039 fully funded so I'd say the expectation 510 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,360 very much is for them to respond based 511 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,000 on their priorit of calls but I would be 512 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,039 hesitant to not enforce this sort of 513 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,039 progressive measure based on the 514 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,760 perceived challenges or obstacles again 515 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,640 to miss porterfield's point I think 516 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,399 having information on the front end 517 00:24:34,399 --> 00:24:36,559 ensures that any response is more 518 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,480 streamlined which is Saving Time Mr M 519 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,200 yeah um thank you Mr Brian for 520 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,120 clarifying this I mean on page three it 521 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,559 outlined that the requirements and the 522 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:50,080 followup documents that will be 523 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200 accompanying this formit so in my words 524 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,799 it's not a free-for all I mean you have 525 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:58,559 to apply for this um this song format 526 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,399 it's not a noise formit it's a song 527 00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:02,360 formit so we just need to clarify those 528 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:06,080 words because words matters and uh they 529 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,080 clearly um given um private um homeowner 530 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,720 an opportunity to have an event there 531 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,840 but at the same 532 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,559 time you are doing it in a way that does 533 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:17,880 not affect your M birs and the 534 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,880 information that is being that is being 535 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,080 put on the application is to help our 536 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,360 police department and I'm sure there are 537 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,600 police officers there at the desk that 538 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840 can eventually identify this and we're 539 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520 not going to have 10 15 20 formates per 540 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,039 week I mean this going to come in a few 541 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,159 formates for weeks but theyve been able 542 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,240 to manage it better and this is you know 543 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,919 that's how we looked at it in a way of 544 00:25:40,919 --> 00:25:43,240 managing it and utilizing the resource 545 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,279 in a better way mrle yeah I think um 546 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,159 adding on to what Shar this is just this 547 00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:52,799 is a piece this is about accountability 548 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,080 as well as efficiency so if you have so 549 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,039 if we're you know if the concerns there 550 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:02,159 are our um police officers limited uh 551 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:03,679 ability to respond to some of these 552 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:04,919 things and thank you for highlighting 553 00:26:04,919 --> 00:26:07,399 that Mr that um the the request was 554 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,399 fully funded what this does is instead 555 00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,360 of those to earlier point two officers 556 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,960 may be going to a house whatever you 557 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,399 have a point of contact so which makes 558 00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:17,840 it more efficient so it really should be 559 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,039 doing um addressing another one of your 560 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,080 concerns around like well you know 2 to 561 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,080 6 hours responding now if there's some 562 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080 if a call comes in they can say let me 563 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,159 speak to Mr John hey you have your sound 564 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,039 permit here um to let you know that 565 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,960 there has been some complaints and being 566 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,640 able to mitigate that and and it's 567 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,440 really around that level of efficiency 568 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399 and accountability for the person people 569 00:26:39,399 --> 00:26:43,240 are far less likely to violate um the 570 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,279 code if they are going about it um and and doing this in the right way and 571 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:50,159 now it's the educational piece of hey 572 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,080 this is what the code is this is what it 573 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,880 says M 574 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,200 Patrick um I'm still thinking about my 575 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,480 question so Mr if someone doesn't get a 576 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,600 permit then what 577 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 happens same thing Happ well I mean my 578 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,000 answer to that would then they get shut 579 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240 down because that's 580 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,840 required something bring automatically 581 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:17,190 we'll get somebody over there in 4 to 6 582 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200 hours but I I do know and I think at one 583 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,799 point when we've talked about these loud uh parties or music or Sound 584 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,880 or whatever you want to call it that happens in the neighborhood 585 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,600 I I believe that the police have the 586 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,720 ability to confiscate the equipment that 587 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,520 I right there are depending on the set 588 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,159 of circumstances yes and do we have any 589 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,000 way and I thought I I thought that they 590 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,840 said that they do have a deciel kind of 591 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,320 reading uh so that or if they can hear 592 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,440 it 50 F 50 ft so 593 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,919 50 yeah it's the there's a DB 594 00:27:55,919 --> 00:28:01,840 rating so many bells and also a what the common sense 595 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480 component where if it can be heard so 596 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,799 many feet away within a certain 50 50 ft 597 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,600 yes yes and if it can be Hur in any 598 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,159 residence regardless of whether the 599 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:14,840 windows of the open are open or not so 600 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,480 it's 50 ft open or Clos it doesn't 601 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,640 matter if somebody's can hear it they 602 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 can hear it as they approach and it's 603 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,559 obviously so one more question so should 604 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,799 neighbors you know notify your neighbors 605 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,399 and your neighbors aren't willing they 606 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:30,960 might be having a little afternoon 607 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,960 brunch in the backyard and they're not 608 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,799 in favor of this I mean can they reach 609 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,440 out to the police department and say U 610 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,559 my neighbor is putting a request in for 611 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,640 a having a DJ birthday party in the yard 612 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880 and uh I'm having something of my own 613 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,799 that won't be of any nuisance to anyone 614 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:54,080 um then what happens Mr far so wouldn't 615 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,399 I mean again I think it states really 616 00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,760 clearly that you still even with 617 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,960 applying for this permit you still have 618 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,519 to operate within the existing 619 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,159 parameters of the code so that doesn't 620 00:29:05,159 --> 00:29:08,640 take away any of that so if I put in for 621 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 a sound permit and my neighbor was 622 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,360 putting in for a sound permit and then 623 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,399 I'm having um tea in my yard and their 624 00:29:15,399 --> 00:29:18,519 sound is still loud or louder than what 625 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,360 it should be then we still have those 626 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,159 existing graduated interventions that we 627 00:29:23,159 --> 00:29:26,519 would have now so um it this doesn't in 628 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,760 any way shape or form allow people act 629 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,799 outside of the code as it exists this 630 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,799 just is another piece of accountability 631 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,159 and efficiency to make sure they do 632 00:29:35,159 --> 00:29:39,399 so so should Che and every per they will 633 00:29:39,399 --> 00:29:41,720 uh they will accompany the city the 634 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080 section with regards to this uh the 635 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,279 noise every everybody will get a copy 636 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,120 everybody will have a copy attached to 637 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240 the form it so it's really going to be 638 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,960 defined in there and they're going to be 639 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,039 knowledgeable to know that you know if 640 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,159 there are things that stipulate how do 641 00:29:57,159 --> 00:29:58,840 we conduct ourselves not because you 642 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,200 have a permit you are free to do 643 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440 whatever you want there are also 644 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,399 limitation Mr 645 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:09,519 Mayor I'll defer to the council member 646 00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,120 Mr oh thank you so where will they will 647 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,120 the permits be available online will 648 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,360 they file in the F office or the police 649 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,720 department they'll be filed with the 650 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,240 police department because the current 651 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 code says the police chief or their 652 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,440 designate will issue it so it's a matter 653 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 of working up the rules and regulations 654 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,279 that the internally with the police 655 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,080 department but the code already says the 656 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,679 police chief can make rules and 657 00:30:32,679 --> 00:30:36,120 regulations to implement 658 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 this uh Mr Mar 659 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,519 yeah 660 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,000 again in terms of quantity sometimes we 661 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,559 get uh 8 10 15 sometimes 20 calls for 662 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,440 noise backed 663 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,720 up uh to make this 664 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,760 enforceable I don't believe you can 665 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000 allow just anybody to apply for the 666 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,480 perit it has to be a property owner 667 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960 somebody who has dominion and control 668 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320 over the site and that if in fact there 669 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,080 is a poor choice in their judgment that 670 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240 the strength becomes you ability to go 671 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,919 back 672 00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:20,120 and they are fined cuz you get there the 673 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960 police get there and say oh uh it's not 674 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,000 me it's John mudon that started this 675 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,120 permit but he left an hour ago oh no 676 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,919 it's uh Carl Williams that did it you 677 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:34,240 get this circular debate from people who 678 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,880 are doing these events and you have to 679 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,919 be able to have some ability to assess 680 00:31:40,919 --> 00:31:44,720 the penalty and go back to the property 681 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,360 owner is what I believe the strongest 682 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,919 message that we can send to try and get 683 00:31:50,919 --> 00:31:54,159 compliance from this m and I think one 684 00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:56,440 of the idea that we asked for the ID the 685 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,799 ID matches the address uh for the 686 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,559 applicant so can then that brought one 687 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,720 question should we say resident and 688 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,399 non-resident or should we remove the 689 00:32:07,399 --> 00:32:09,720 non-resident because that's a a good 690 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,159 point brought up by in terms of buy you 691 00:32:13,159 --> 00:32:14,880 know linking this to the 692 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360 homeon or the person who's living at 693 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,279 that address sorry I should broaden that 694 00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,120 Miss Patrick I guess you could change I hear what you're saying and that's a 695 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080 good point but if they're the owner 696 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,159 might be the non-resident in other words 697 00:32:27,159 --> 00:32:29,440 so it might just the the semantical 698 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,639 semantics in terms of owner or or or 699 00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:35,519 something like that but that's a that's 700 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,399 a good point and the only other question 701 00:32:37,399 --> 00:32:40,279 that I had was um a process question of 702 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,320 did did you um talk about this with with 703 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,240 the police department yeah okay thanks 704 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,919 it was V by the commission of Public 705 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,200 Safety uh Eric Clifford and his staff 706 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320 great thank you and our cooperation 707 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,710 Council 708 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,639 yeah I have a couple of questions well a 709 00:33:00,639 --> 00:33:02,760 statement actually so because the mayor 710 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760 talked about well first of all I think 711 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,399 that when if the police have to go 712 00:33:07,399 --> 00:33:09,360 somewhere in here we should have written 713 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,399 that um the permit must be produced if 714 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:13,919 police request because they may say oh I 715 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:15,720 have a permit that we should let them 716 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,360 know that if the police do have to come 717 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,039 you have to produce the permit that's 718 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,760 been issued um and in terms of homeowner 719 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,480 or resident or whatever we're going to 720 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,720 call them I guess for me the question 721 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,799 becomes what if it's a PR event but it's 722 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:33,159 at a it's someplace else it's in it's at 723 00:33:33,159 --> 00:33:36,240 a different venue rather than someone's 724 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,519 home then it's not the homeowner but it 725 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,080 definitely with the ID and whoever those 726 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,919 things should match but the question 727 00:33:42,919 --> 00:33:44,159 comes up again what if it's I'm not 728 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:46,080 holding it at my home I'm holding it 729 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,000 someplace 730 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,799 else I um go 731 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,039 ahead yes I mean there is a responsible 732 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,960 party has to be on premises Point time 733 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,000 so there has to be they're they're agreeing that you know they're 734 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,080 consenting to the inspection as well as 735 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360 that the responsible P 736 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,760 primary party or primary point of 737 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,839 contact shall be at the premises at all 738 00:34:10,839 --> 00:34:13,960 times wherever the premises is right yes 739 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,320 that's where we're talking where this 740 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,040 point is okay and um my other this is 741 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,359 food for discussion do we want to add 742 00:34:22,359 --> 00:34:25,320 something that says if after a violation 743 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,119 or a number of violations that people 744 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,240 are no longer 745 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,919 issued permits for a certain amount of 746 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:31,359 time well though then we would have to 747 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:33,359 change the code for that there's nothing 748 00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:34,720 in the code right now so you want you 749 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:38,599 would have to the code okay Mr U thank 750 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,359 you so I I do like the idea of the 751 00:34:40,359 --> 00:34:43,320 property owner for sure um having to get 752 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,240 the so if it's hold off premisis like in 753 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,040 a park a lot of people have things in a 754 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,119 park do they need a permit to use the 755 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:53,919 Park area they already do that's already 756 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:56,280 done Park Department right so they'd 757 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,200 have to um 758 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,160 you know being in Central Park and up at 759 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,200 Hill h a lot I mean there's just a lot 760 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,960 of um it it's beautiful you know uh 761 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,760 individuals who decide that day they're 762 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,720 going to just set up overide the duck 763 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,119 pond and have themselves you know little 764 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,599 canopy bring a barbecue you know all the 765 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,839 kids are there they got music flaring I 766 00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:19,839 mean is that being enforced that they 767 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:22,200 have a permit to be there at that 768 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,800 time and now with a sound permit as 769 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,480 well you just brought up premises I'm 770 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 wondering Miss Patrick I think it more 771 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,480 is just um on the public um on the for 772 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,200 example just to stick with the Central 773 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,119 Park it's the Pavilion I mean it's know 774 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,480 if they were on the you know the grass 775 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,359 um somewhere in you 776 00:35:44,359 --> 00:35:46,920 know near the rose you know on the other 777 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,400 side of the Rose Garden I don't think 778 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160 you required to have a permit to use the 779 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,000 public facility in aart I'm sorry 780 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,920 interrupt is a news person from Channel 781 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,440 13 supposed to see you at some point did 782 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,000 you do you know anything about that no 783 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,119 are you Mr M there yes should tell him 784 00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,480 he needs to leave yes okay he's not 785 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,079 filming but well they're it's a public 786 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,319 meeting so they can be in the building 787 00:36:09,319 --> 00:36:14,069 okay all right fine thank 788 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,079 you so they need the permit anywhere in 789 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,520 the park not just to rent not to use a 790 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520 space like Pavilion well in Central Park 791 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,839 I'm sorry in Central Park you actually 792 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:26,680 do have to pay for the Pavilion yes no I 793 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,359 know I know that's why we get complaints 794 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,400 in Central Park from people who bring 795 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,119 their cars there turn music up to 796 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,520 extraordinary 797 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,640 levels and whose logic behind that I 798 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,870 don't quite understand but it 799 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,200 happens M yeah so um I just want to 800 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,560 reference a couple notes that we're 801 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,599 taken in so we're making some adjustment 802 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,440 here so added to this application is 803 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,920 applicant must be over 18 years 804 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,680 and you must notify adjacent neighbors 805 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,079 and um thank you for your point U permit 806 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,760 must be posted so that way it's visible 807 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,720 that uh if the police happen to show up 808 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,119 there well they already know that 809 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,160 there's a permit but it must be visible 810 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680 to others to to notify the the 811 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,880 surrounding 812 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 neighbors I'm still going to go back in 813 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200 terms of the cost I mean this across the 814 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,720 board if you should not be charging or 815 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:28,230 just could be pastro 816 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,960 M bfield I'm I'm not in favor of 817 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680 charging at this point Mr Farley and 818 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160 know Miss 819 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,720 Patrick so I yeah I I think that right 820 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,880 now this is again about accountability 821 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400 and some level of efficiency so at this 822 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,400 point I think that we don't need to 823 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,400 assign a fee um to it uh because if 824 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,880 anything this operates in the way we 825 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,880 think it will make the enforcement of 826 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,920 the existing noise ordinance uh easier 827 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,760 to enforce without having those 828 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880 resources out so I don't see the logic 829 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,520 behind the signing a feed to it at this 830 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,200 time I mean I'm fine with that I think 831 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,720 that um you know they'll have to pay a 832 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,440 fine which is in the ordinates if if 833 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,920 they you know break this 834 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000 it Mr 835 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,839 Toro M uh Mr chairman you could always 836 00:38:20,839 --> 00:38:23,400 revisit this issue and add a fee and 837 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,319 like to see how this rolls out and if 838 00:38:25,319 --> 00:38:27,079 you feel you want to add a fee to it you 839 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:31,040 can do it a later date so you have that 840 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000 op U just being responsive to Mr M's 841 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 question um Mr to you response um I'm 842 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,520 not in favor of the permit to begin with 843 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,280 but I if anything that has to generate 844 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,359 time and paper and energy into um having 845 00:38:46,359 --> 00:38:51,430 a permit issue should be charged to 846 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400 fee and I just say uh in response to 847 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920 that U definitely reating what Mr 848 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,880 highlighted this is a living document um 849 00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,920 just because something has passed 850 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,480 doesn't mean it's going to fully address 851 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,920 all the issues so I think it's going to 852 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,960 require us to continue to UM Vet any 853 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,839 complaints or U comments that we reive 854 00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:12,520 in regards to this and just as a city 855 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,800 it's our requirement to be responsive to 856 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,280 those in Good 857 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,760 Nature Patrick yeah that was kind of 858 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,839 what I was going to say was um maybe you 859 00:39:20,839 --> 00:39:22,720 know once first of like when would this 860 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,319 go into when would this start and then 861 00:39:25,319 --> 00:39:27,680 um could we have an evaluation period 862 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,640 you know set something like 6 months or 863 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,800 whatever I don't know but um where we 864 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,599 come back and um evaluate whether this 865 00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:36,839 is working or you know what are the 866 00:39:36,839 --> 00:39:40,280 tweaks that type of 867 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,280 thing is this is this change the the 868 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,599 code in there and in 869 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,920 the existing fee structure for say the 870 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,000 street closing perits or is that able to 871 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,040 be done by resolution 872 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,400 or by ordinance Chang got be ordinance 873 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,240 especially for this 874 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,359 because right now it's the noise 875 00:40:08,359 --> 00:40:10,640 ordinance doesn't have it never created 876 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,359 that so it's just the council or time 877 00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:15,839 has always tried to move away from the 878 00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:18,160 change by ordinance but to be able to 879 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,760 change it by resolution so that if you 880 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680 were putting it in it just simplifies 881 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,839 the process down the road what what you 882 00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:31,119 could do do going forward is amend the 883 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,160 code allow for the fee and then say any 884 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,960 subsequent changes to the fee will be 885 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,280 done by 886 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,400 resolution but still I mean that's going 887 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,680 forward if you decide to do a 888 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,200 code Mr chairman just for the you know 889 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,599 for the short term I will go back take 890 00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,839 the revisions that were discussed here 891 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,920 tonight and then two weeks I'll give you 892 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,319 a final draft and then you can take one 893 00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:59,359 last look and then you can just pass 894 00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:00,680 that out the committee it doesn't 895 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,040 require any legislative action and then 896 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,000 our office the legal office work with 897 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,760 the police department on the the process 898 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,800 on the way ahead of working this 899 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,640 out uh Mr thank you for your work on 900 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,640 this is that a suitable recommendation 901 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,599 back in two weeks with the Chang that's 902 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,400 fine yes look there's changes we need to 903 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,240 see the revised verion and move for and 904 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,400 thank everyone for uh you know your 905 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,839 input in regards to this thank you okay 906 00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:29,400 uh if there are no other items thatall 907 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,040 Public Safety can I please have a motion 908 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,280 to adjourn second all in 909 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,800 favor I'd like to call the order St City 910 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,520 development and planning we have 10 911 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,839 items on the 912 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:43,480 agenda um the first item is just to Mrs 913 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,440 car is not here but simply a reminder 914 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,240 that St Clair's Redevelopment and 915 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,000 resoning will have a public hearing on 916 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,280 the 24th of 917 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,800 February the next item is a ceremony 918 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,599 resolution recognizing Reverend Bradley 919 00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:00,359 Jones Mr T yes thank you so 920 00:42:00,359 --> 00:42:03,520 uh Reverend has been a constant 921 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,599 throughout our uh years here at the city 922 00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,200 council with prayer and invocation for 923 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,680 us and uh he's retiring and um we like 924 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,680 to uh see that we give him a u 925 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,079 ceremonial resolution at his requirement 926 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,920 service in April and I've been in CL 927 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,000 with his office and they will give us 928 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 some information uh that we can put on 929 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,760 the ceremonial resolution for him 930 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,119 any questions or comments I'm Mo second 931 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:31,240 all in 932 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,400 favor the next is a ceremonial 933 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,359 resolution recognizing women's History 934 00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:38,440 Month Miss pck yes thank you um women's 935 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,480 history month is the month of March um 936 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640 and we have uh done this in the past 937 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,520 where we've had a ceremonial resolution 938 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,319 recognizing women's History Month this 939 00:42:47,319 --> 00:42:50,319 year uh the 2025 theme for women's 940 00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,880 history month is moving forward together 941 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,319 women educating and inspiring 942 00:42:55,319 --> 00:42:58,319 generations and so it really talks about 943 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:01,319 uh the ability to be able to nurture um 944 00:43:01,319 --> 00:43:03,200 in all of us but you know in young 945 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,800 people um you know how educators uh do 946 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960 nurture the idea of having critical 947 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,160 thought and and being able to have 948 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,800 debate and how that impacts impacts our 949 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,440 uh democracy um so I'd like to honor 950 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,440 that any questions or comments I'm Mo 951 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,400 those all second all in favor I thank 952 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,280 you the next item is a ceremonial 953 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,559 resolution welcoming the New York 954 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,200 Phoenix basketball team to SKC Mr 955 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,079 Williams so I going 956 00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:38,880 to curtail my excitement but I am beyond 957 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,960 uh uh for the longest time I've been 958 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,680 looking forward to a professional team 959 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,319 returning to SKC um as we highlight um 960 00:43:47,319 --> 00:43:50,240 the achievements of 961 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,200 um black or African-American teams in in 962 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,960 Prior years past with reference to the 963 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920 mo Giants I think skincity and our our 964 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160 booming City and the progressive steps 965 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,720 we're taking uh having a sporting team 966 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:05,280 that we can allow the city to Rally 967 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,760 behind um and I think looking beyond the 968 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,480 family fun and affordable entertainment 969 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,400 truly evaluating them on their 970 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,440 commitment to uh mentoring and putting 971 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,359 in place a lot of Youth Development 972 00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:19,480 opportunities truly speaks for itself so 973 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,720 I am uh calling in the existence that 974 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,920 this will be a successful partnership 975 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,720 and I hope that I will see you all on 976 00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,720 their opening night on the 20 977 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,400 I already brought my season courtside 978 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,559 tickets and I'm I'm identifying myself 979 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,720 as a Courtside season ticket 980 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:38,160 holder um but I'd be excited to um see 981 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,079 the support to push this forward Mr 982 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,359 Mayor Madam president will council 983 00:44:42,359 --> 00:44:45,400 member Williams make the first basket 984 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,640 present the resolution or if they allow 985 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,119 him I think he would really want to do 986 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:54,119 that it's all excited official 987 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:57,680 jersey I'm I'm about this oh I'll second 988 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,440 it all those in favor I thank 989 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,160 you um the next item is the lease 990 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,880 agreement 13 North Broadway M M 991 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,390 Bar 992 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,200 um so the city parking lot on North 993 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,920 Broadway and Liberty Street uh there is 994 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,440 a uh section of Green Space um take a 995 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,319 look at the 996 00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:26,559 separate um page in your folders excuse 997 00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:28,400 me can I I thought we were um there was 998 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,599 an email that we were bringing this back 999 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,640 in 2 weeks Oh I thought so but you 1000 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,440 called on before okay well then I 1001 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,920 thought that you okay your back I just 1002 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,670 wanted to you give you that 1003 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,520 opportunity I beg your pardon yes you 1004 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,760 were so we'll be bringing this back into 1005 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,119 two weeks have to go to make sure that 1006 00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,280 everything is um all the information in 1007 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,680 the uh permit was correct as the 1008 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,510 information I 1009 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,119 received okay 1010 00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:00,440 um the remaining items are property 1011 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,880 sales we will handle those in the 1012 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,640 executive 1013 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,079 session so I will ask for a motion to 1014 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,559 recess so move second all in favor we 1015 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,079 are recessed thank you I will call to 1016 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,640 where the claims committee we have one 1017 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,680 item on the agenda tonight I'm pretty 1018 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,720 sure that needs to be discussed in 1019 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,000 executive session yes Mr chairman all 1020 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,280 right so I'll ask 1021 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,559 for 1022 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:27,400 oops it's just him he left okay can you 1023 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,000 see him can you see him 1024 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,870 he for one 1025 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:41,630 minut you has some kind of 1026 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,119 BU you too what's that fight for I think 1027 00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:47,800 called 1028 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,119 yeah he 1029 00:46:50,119 --> 00:47:06,430 sick Sam Sam 1030 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,359 uh just asking for a motion to enter 1031 00:47:08,359 --> 00:47:10,760 executive session so move all right I 1032 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,079 second all those in 1033 00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,400 favor members of the public will have to 1034 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:21,060 leave 1035 00:47:21,070 --> 00:47:27,659 [Music]