1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:54,480 [Music] 2 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,220 Nat. 3 00:00:56,220 --> 00:01:24,240 [Music] 4 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Heat. 5 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:50,000 [Music] 6 00:01:50,000 --> 00:02:00,650 Hey, hey, 7 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:06,480 [Applause] 8 00:02:06,490 --> 00:02:13,710 [Music] 9 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,160 hey. Hey, hey, 10 00:02:17,170 --> 00:02:40,760 [Music] 11 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,570 hey. Hey. Hey. 12 00:02:44,580 --> 00:03:10,430 [Music] 13 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,370 Hey. Hey, hey, hey. 14 00:03:14,370 --> 00:04:02,080 [Music] 15 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:23,710 Heat. Heat. 16 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:31,510 N. Heat. 17 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:47,080 [Music] 18 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,530 Heat. Heat. Heat. 19 00:04:49,530 --> 00:05:15,480 [Music] 20 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:15,550 [Applause] 21 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:35,120 [Music] 22 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,670 Hey, hey, Heat. Heat. 23 00:05:38,670 --> 00:06:26,720 [Music] 24 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,180 Hey, hey, hey. 25 00:06:29,180 --> 00:07:46,309 [Music] 26 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:49,570 Heat. Heat. 27 00:07:49,580 --> 00:08:26,390 [Music] 28 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:43,850 Going back. 29 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:46,399 [Music] 30 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,670 You 31 00:08:50,680 --> 00:09:02,949 know, I'm looking around. 32 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:06,320 We start at the top and the bottom. 33 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,800 as well for the whole meeting. I'd like 34 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,720 to call to order Skiia City Council 35 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,040 committee meeting for Monday, May 19th, 36 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,320 2025. And the first committee is 37 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,680 finance. Mr. Min. Thank you. I would 38 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,040 like to call the finance committee to 39 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,080 order. And the first item is the home 40 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,519 American Rescue 41 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:28,680 Plan. Mr. 42 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:40,630 Brown filling in for Miss Car. 43 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Good evening. Um, this is a request for 44 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,680 a resolution awarding the homemark funds 45 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,670 in the amount of 46 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:52,399 $577,856 to the Ultimat Program, Inc. Uh 47 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,800 the homes consortium has uh committed 48 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,360 this funds uh for the ultimate program 49 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,680 in order to rehabilitate this scholar in 50 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:02,000 a non- congregate family shelter located 51 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,600 in the town of Colony that serves the 52 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,790 area. 53 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Questions? Seeing none, I have a motion 54 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,560 to move this power. Second. All in 55 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:16,399 favor? I thank you. Thank you. The next 56 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,079 item is authorize the commission of 57 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:20,800 finance to deposit the consolidated 58 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,800 local street and highway improvement 59 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,519 program ships extreme winter recovery 60 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:30,509 pave New York. Mr. 61 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,360 Wall the New York state has adopted 62 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,800 their budget. This year's budget 63 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,680 included funding for the paving of local 64 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,160 streets in the city of Skenctity. Um the 65 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,240 funds are as laid out. It's the CHIPS 66 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,000 program, the extreme winter recovery, 67 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,079 the pave New York program, the state 68 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:48,160 touring route program, and the pave our 69 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,800 potholes program. So, we have to accept 70 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,120 this funding in order for finance to set 71 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,519 up the codes so that we can pay our 72 00:10:55,519 --> 00:10:59,560 contractors who are paving our roads. 73 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:01,680 Questions? Go ahead, please. I just want 74 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:02,880 to know if we could get a copy because 75 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,480 people always ask of the paving schedule 76 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,760 of the streets. That's all. Thank you. 77 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,079 Any other questions? Seeing none, may I 78 00:11:12,079 --> 00:11:14,000 have a motion to move this item forward? 79 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,800 So move. Second. All in favor? I. Thank 80 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 you. The next item is funding support 81 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,680 for the Belmont Papa program. Mr. 82 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,600 Harley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just 83 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,880 wanted to bring this before the council 84 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,760 so we can have a a conversation about 85 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,839 fully supporting Belmont Papa program. 86 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:33,360 Belmont has been around the city for a 87 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 long long time serving um youth um in 88 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,240 multiple capacities. Um I I won't uh 89 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,320 belabor all of the benefits that the 90 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,480 program has has provided for our our 91 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,680 city youth. Um and as well as the 92 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,560 leveraging, you know, some of the uh 93 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,800 outcomes around, you know, public safety 94 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,399 and things of that nature. I think that 95 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,320 we all are pretty clear of how important 96 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,560 this program has been, but it's been 97 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,440 operating um on a shoestring budget with 98 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,480 really not a lot of uh well really no 99 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,720 institutional support. Um, and I think 100 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,320 that a time as we're seeing so much 101 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,920 going on in our community, it's really 102 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,800 important that we uh make an investment 103 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,639 um in a program with a proven track 104 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,360 record um that has been existing for as 105 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,720 long as it's been around. So, um I was 106 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,680 looking for us to uh fund this uh fully 107 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,399 fund uh the program. I slipped in a a 108 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:29,480 quick budget from um Belmont to your 109 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 mailboxes and it's looking like the 110 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,600 projected cost of the entire program is 111 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,560 uh around $30,000. So, but I was 112 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:41,040 speaking with um people in the program 113 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,399 and they were saying that every time 114 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:44,079 that they have a lot of youth that sign 115 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:45,920 up, but every time that it's time for 116 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,480 to, you know, uh for parents to have to 117 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 support paying out of their pocket for, 118 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,399 you know, some of the equipment and 119 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,240 things of that nature, they get quite a 120 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,320 steep drop off. So, I was just thinking 121 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,680 about all those kids that we could 122 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,880 support um and and really help and 123 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,720 really also help out with the city as 124 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,240 far as public safety and things of that 125 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,880 nature as well. 126 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,279 questions, comments. 127 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:12,480 M Mr. Carly, is it can you get a copy of 128 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,279 the um the prior source of funding? 129 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:17,200 Excuse me. The prior source of funding 130 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,320 from Belma, how they need funded before? 131 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Sure. I can do that. I can do that. 132 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,440 Yeah, if you don't mind that will help 133 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,880 us to guide them in terms of because 134 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,800 they're 135 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 looking at the budget here and looking 136 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,880 at what they ask is 40,000 47,000. It's 137 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,680 almost like a full 100%. 138 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,399 My concern is that u where are they not 139 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,000 getting funding from other sources to 140 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,000 carry this project program forward? So my understanding and I and you know 141 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,079 we can get uh make sure I get uh reach 142 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:45,360 out for the specifics there but my 143 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,839 understanding is they focus a lot on 144 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:50,720 fundraising you know um and again what 145 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,560 ends up happening is that you have a 146 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,320 huge interest in the program. So there's 147 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,440 a lot of kids that want to um play, but 148 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,680 when it comes time, you know, for them 149 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:02,480 to uh pay for the equipment, travel, all 150 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,839 the things that go associated with 151 00:14:03,839 --> 00:14:05,440 playing and you get rid of a steep drop 152 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 off. So to me that's indicative of you 153 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:14,399 know where we can kind of step in and and and bridge that gap from them 154 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:16,639 because look recalling from the recall 155 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,880 from the last budget and into the an 156 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,600 amendment we had allocated $150,000 to 157 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,440 the youth um line and then we alloc um 158 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,160 had a revision of $19,000 on the coco 159 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 house to help offset um youth services 160 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,920 costs. So there are potential that we 161 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,279 can utilize those lines to offset 162 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:38,959 already money that allocate but my 163 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:41,279 concern is 164 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:45,360 I um bman popcorn uh you know inclusive 165 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,120 we have to look across the board for 166 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,760 other leagues so because I don't think 167 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,440 it would be favor to give one and not to 168 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,519 give the others so I think we need to 169 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,760 look at who else is playing other 170 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,720 athletic league sports league who are in 171 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,480 need of funding so we have to be 172 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,160 sensitive in terms not giving one, not 173 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,959 giving the other because we just created 174 00:15:03,959 --> 00:15:07,680 a some friction there in our community. 175 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,440 No, I can appreciate that, but I also 176 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,800 would think that like, you know, we we 177 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,480 fund, you 178 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 know, other things. Um I mean I know I I 179 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,120 guess what my thought about that would 180 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,639 be like you know if other programs 181 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:24,639 aren't coming forward um or getting in 182 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,240 contact with us to say hey you know we 183 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,800 could use this support Belmont is you 184 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,920 know I wouldn't want to say no to them 185 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,519 because because then especially if 186 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:34,880 they're talk about our capacity to 187 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,959 support all you know then then that 188 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:39,040 becomes a different conversation. So, I 189 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,120 wouldn't want to hold up our support for 190 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,360 this program and and and thinking that, 191 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,959 well, there's another program or another 192 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:47,440 program that isn't coming forward. Um, I 193 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,839 don't know of any other, to my 194 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:51,360 understanding, I pretty much think that 195 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,160 this is the only uh uh poporn program in 196 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,000 the city of Skenctity that uh serves the 197 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,120 youth that they do. Um, so I do think 198 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,800 that there's uh, you know, there's some 199 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,560 value there and some significance there, 200 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,519 too. Miss, 201 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:07,440 so um, I just want to be clear on the 202 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,560 budget. So it says the total season is 203 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,920 47,000 and then there's a postseason of 204 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,079 30. So are they asking us just for the 205 00:16:14,079 --> 00:16:15,759 postseason? Are they asking us just for 206 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,120 regular season? Are they asking us for 207 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,720 all of it? So they're asking us for 208 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 47,000. Just the 47. So the postseason 209 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,880 we don't have to be concerned about. No. 210 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,639 Right. Um and my further comment 211 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:26,800 regarding what Mr. Mudren has to say, we 212 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,120 um I I have to agree with you that we 213 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,320 did we put money into ball fields. Um 214 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,079 what's the one over there on Michigan? 215 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:37,519 That one. be um the one over um on 216 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:39,759 Oregon Avenue. So, we have invested in 217 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:42,880 other um sports activities. Um this 218 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,560 happens to be uh football, the other 219 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,320 ones were softball, but we did make 220 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,639 investments through ARPA to re renovate 221 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:50,079 those fields. So, it's it's a different 222 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:51,440 kind of investment, but we definitely 223 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,199 made that investment. So, um and if I 224 00:16:55,199 --> 00:16:57,199 understand it correctly, the young 225 00:16:57,199 --> 00:17:00,600 people that go to these um 226 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,839 are have less ability to cover costs. 227 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:06,799 I'll just put it like that. And so, um, 228 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,240 you know, I think we should keep that in 229 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,160 mind. Let me just also say because this 230 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,760 is something that I I feel strongly 231 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,880 about, uh, that I understand that you 232 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,480 say the parents, you know, um, you know, 233 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,319 there's a drop off, but I think if we 234 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:19,760 could just get some level investment 235 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,079 from the parents, whether it's $5 or $10 236 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,319 or something. I just feel strongly about 237 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:25,760 that. And if you have a lot of children 238 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,199 and you know, maybe then we cap it. If 239 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:28,559 you have, I don't know, I know somebody 240 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:29,880 with eight children. So, let's use that 241 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,640 person. Let's say if you use if you have 242 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,080 eight children then maybe you won't have 243 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 to do that for all eight but I think 244 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,600 having a level of investment from um 245 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,679 from the family parents caregivers 246 00:17:39,679 --> 00:17:42,640 whomever is is worthwhile yeah a 247 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,120 worthwhile asks we um you know if we're 248 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,559 not just because we're putting money 249 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:48,080 forward just because I believe in 250 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,480 self-investment. Yeah. No and I think I 251 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,520 appreciate that madam president. I just 252 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,480 also Yes. and that the parents and and 253 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,480 family members um are I mean they've 254 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,039 done the car washes you know selling 255 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,600 popcorn the rapid I mean they this is a 256 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,720 very enga I if anything you know is a 257 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,400 testament to their investment is the 258 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,039 fact that they have been around for so 259 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,280 long in in the city without this in 260 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,640 institutional investment I think that positions them um uniquely compared 261 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,320 to other places and definitely so I 262 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,520 don't think that investment is going to 263 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,200 change but um I I can appreciate 264 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,760 I guess um I certainly support um Bob 265 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Warner um but I also support the Blue 266 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,480 Jays um and some of the other youth 267 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,400 recreation activities that we have in 268 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,120 the city. So I'd want to definitely be 269 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,280 involving our parks director within this 270 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,240 discussion. But I also wonder whether we 271 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,480 shouldn't be thinking about the 2026 272 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,799 budget and whether we can make an 273 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,440 investment in all of our youth um 274 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,080 recreational activities. Um, I know the 275 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,559 Blue Jays, for example, probably most of 276 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:57,120 us just donated to them um during their 277 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,360 fundraising campaign. I mean, they they 278 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:02,960 too have to, you know, go out there and 279 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,360 raise all the money that they that they 280 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,559 use to to to get the baseball going as 281 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,799 well. So I think it would be really a 282 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,440 valuable thing for us to consider um you 283 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,679 know how are we using our youth our 284 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:18,080 youth um 285 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,880 recre our youth lines in the budget and 286 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,840 I'm not sure midy year how we could come 287 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,600 up you know where do we take the money 288 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,760 from um you know to to do what you're 289 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,840 suggesting but I do think in a planful 290 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,919 way for next year we should be looking 291 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:35,840 at all of our youth activities and 292 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,720 figuring you know let's include Blue 293 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,880 Jays, let's include Pop Warner, let's, 294 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,520 you know, let's figure out a way to um 295 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,640 to some extent support all of the um 296 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,039 city's recreational activities for 297 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:50,559 youth. 298 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,000 And just to add to that, I mean, we just 299 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,440 need to look at what is available 300 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,679 against the 301 00:19:54,679 --> 00:19:56,799 $150,000 and what is available against 302 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,240 the $109,000 as under Koko 303 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,280 administration to see what available 304 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,559 funding we have there and look at the 305 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:05,919 support if we have the support of the 306 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:07,600 council to move forward and fund these 307 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,559 program and make and also consider take 308 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:13,400 into consideration are the other 309 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,720 programs that um already in the pipeline 310 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,440 against these um these two lines. 311 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,039 Well, so my question is this um to Miss 312 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:25,799 Patrick. So are you saying 313 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:27,840 that I'm a little unclear. Are you 314 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,960 saying that like it's we shouldn't if 315 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,280 Belmont we shouldn't look at how we 316 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,440 could support Belmont unless we're 317 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,159 looking at how we can support um other 318 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:40,480 programs who haven't came forward and 319 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,679 express the need. Is that what you're 320 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:43,200 saying? Yeah. I think it would be fair 321 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000 to really, you know, think inclusively 322 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,200 of all the sports um and all the youth. 323 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,679 Um again, I mean, you know, I think we 324 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:54,320 all probably support all these teams uh 325 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240 in our own in our own way, in our own 326 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,360 donations, but um I think in terms of 327 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,919 the city budget, um I think it would be 328 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:05,200 good to be inclusive of all the sports. 329 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,360 Go ahead, please. So, I think a point of 330 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,280 clarification is there's a difference 331 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,679 between equal and equitable. Um, and I 332 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:14,000 think it's really important to kind of 333 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,080 emphasize what Mr. Farley is saying 334 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,520 about our intentionality and what we're 335 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,200 doing as a city. I think to Miss 336 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,880 Porterfield's point, there have been 337 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,640 considerable investments in other sports 338 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,760 and recreational activities. Um, not 339 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,080 with the intent of how do we share or 340 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,679 replicate this in other areas, but for 341 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,520 just being responsive to the needs of 342 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,360 those organizations, I think it's 343 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,720 important for us to be clear in our 344 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,640 message in this instance. I think if 345 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,480 we're looking at the social economic 346 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,480 conditions that are identifying these 347 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,559 families at a greater hardship than some 348 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:43,919 of the other activities, I think it is 349 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:46,640 our responsibility as a city to look for 350 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,200 methods that we can support them on an 351 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,200 ongoing basis because the benefits of 352 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,280 these types of efforts, expands their 353 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,200 awareness, expands their understanding 354 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,280 of the world outside of scenario and 355 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,919 that has really tangible improvements to 356 00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:01,679 public safety and other areas that we 357 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:05,120 often talk about um to anium. uh so I 358 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,799 don't think we necessarily have to have 359 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,159 a discussion about all the other 360 00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:10,799 activities if our focus is how do we 361 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,880 support these youth and their support 362 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,080 and and their pursuit of having a a 363 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,679 better um broader quality of life. 364 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:21,440 So are they currently using the the 365 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,200 school facility for for their games? 366 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,880 So, so yes, I I believe they're using 367 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,240 some of the school facility for the 368 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 games, but where they practice at is 369 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,159 actually a city- owned property, which 370 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:33,960 is behind 371 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,880 um uh the Mount Pleasant football field. 372 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Um they use that for for practices 373 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,159 that's been happening for the last 20 374 00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:42,559 years um or more, but that's where they 375 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,039 where they're operating right now. So, 376 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,039 they they have they have an existing 377 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:48,559 fields. They have existing fields that 378 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,640 they're using. Well, yes, they do have 379 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,840 assisting fields that they're using 380 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,200 through partnerships or whatever. But 381 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,840 the issue um that was identified um was 382 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,520 laid out was more so some of the 383 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,000 equipment that is take the travel that 384 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,960 it takes and I mean thank you uh Mr. 385 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,799 Williams to really just, you know, echo 386 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,000 what his point is. You know, these are 387 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 also the same kids. You know, when they 388 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,600 won the Super Bowl and they're doing 389 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,600 these things, we bring them down here. 390 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,880 You know, we're very proud of them. 391 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,640 We're taking pictures with them. you 392 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,080 know, it's like we're at a point, you 393 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,080 know, I think that, you know, support in 394 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,600 our city council capacity looks like 395 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,440 let's figure out how to do this, you 396 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000 know, and I don't want to be, you know, 397 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,159 in a position where we are taking 398 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:32,080 pictures with kids and celebrating, you 399 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,679 know, their things, but then we have an 400 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:35,120 opportunity and they're coming to us 401 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,280 saying, you know, look, this is a need 402 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,120 here and we have an opportunity to be 403 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,480 responsive to the need. and I just I 404 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,440 don't feel comfortable um with saying 405 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,280 okay well let's look at where all the 406 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,360 other needs are throughout the city um 407 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:51,830 based on that that's my issue 408 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,520 I was going to ask a question do do you 409 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,520 know if they approach a school for any 410 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,120 funding assistance I don't know if they approach the school for any 411 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,760 funding um I'm not aware of that is it 412 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,440 something that you can find out for us 413 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000 certainly I mean you know there's I'm 414 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,559 sure that there's other avenues um where 415 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,480 they'll be pursuing because literally 416 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,360 they've been existing doing this work in 417 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,760 our community with zero institutional 418 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,480 support. Um, and so if that's the case, 419 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,159 I have all the faith in them that 420 00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:24,799 they'll be able to and aggressively 421 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:26,880 pursue other streams of funding. But the 422 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,400 reality is they're here. They have one 423 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,240 of the best proven track records if we 424 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,480 can of any sports league in the history 425 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,799 of our city here. and we need to be 426 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:38,480 supporting them um in order to make sure 427 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 that they can sustain. Um I just I don't 428 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,880 know what else it could be. Go ahead. So 429 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760 um to Mr. to Mr. Mr. Mer and to your 430 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,919 point there is money and we do we should 431 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:51,440 find out because what we don't want to 432 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,679 happen some of that money is ARPA money 433 00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:55,279 and what we don't want to happen is make 434 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,279 sure that that money does not get spent 435 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:02,159 down and so therefore you know we're um doesn't get spent down is yes 436 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,000 does not get spent. I want to make sure 437 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,919 it does get spent. So, I want to make 438 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,679 sure I don't want it to not get spent 439 00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:10,559 out we're caught like. So, um I think 440 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:11,919 that we should definitely be looking at 441 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:14,000 it. I don't really feel like we should 442 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,240 wait and say we're going to wait until 443 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,840 we make sure everybody else is okay. I 444 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,080 don't as as Mr. Farley said, they they came with an ask and I'm trying to 445 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840 think through when other organizations 446 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,200 come through with an ask and we always 447 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,559 say, "Well, let's let's wait and let's 448 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,240 just make sure everybody has a bite at 449 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240 the apple." I think others may come 450 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320 forward now, but I don't think that it 451 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,400 should be at the expense of this 452 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080 organization, us not considering them 453 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,840 because we want to like lay it out for 454 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240 everybody else. Um I I I really I think 455 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080 that's unfair. And there's other 456 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,400 programs that um most of it comes 457 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,840 through the police department, the fire 458 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,720 department, the 518 thing. And so, you 459 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,840 know, there's other things out there 460 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,760 that we don't that that get funded and 461 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,760 we don't wait till like it it's what 462 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,279 I'll call a level playing field because 463 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,440 it really isn't a level playing field. 464 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,880 Uh, so I think that we should really 465 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,640 give this some strong consideration if 466 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,120 we can come out of the 150 or out of the 467 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,200 108. I'm not sure how that would work 468 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520 based on what's described and how the 469 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600 money was given, but I think we should 470 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600 really definitely take a look. Um, Mr. 471 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,799 Vario, thank you for bringing up the 472 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:14,320 point that they do do fundraisers 473 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,640 because I've been to them and as all of 474 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,799 the uh organizations do and they do try 475 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:20,799 really hard and yes, we had them down 476 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,720 here two two years ago. The 477 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520 cheerleaders. Yeah. And and and the 478 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,799 team. That's right. That's right. and 479 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:28,320 then and they raised a lot of money to 480 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,480 go wherever it was they went that year 481 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,400 forward, I think it was, and didn't ask 482 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,400 us for anything. So, um you know, if 483 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,080 we're going to applaud them, then I 484 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,360 think we should also show our support in 485 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,559 other ways as well. So, I'm not sure how 486 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,080 long how long when's the season start 487 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,840 and how soon is this ask for? Well, so the well they're they're practicing 488 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,159 now on the field now. Uh um so I uh uh I 489 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:54,000 you know I can give you uh get some more 490 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,120 information to you around when the 491 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,440 season starts and and when the season 492 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,279 ends if those you know if that would 493 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,840 please the council. But what I'm really 494 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,520 looking for is for the council to step 495 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,520 up here and support this this uh 496 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 longlasting program that has been a huge 497 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,200 protective factor for hundreds and 498 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,039 hundreds of of kids um in the community. 499 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,360 And I'm I'm quite frankly not looking 500 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,000 for the political posturing and 501 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,600 gesturing and all of these things like 502 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,880 this is something that we can do that 503 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,480 can really impact our our kids and our city lives and I think that we 504 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,440 should just do it. So I'm so so what we 505 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,799 need to do um is to look at the 506 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,400 available funding against both lines 150 507 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520 that was in the budget and the 109 and 508 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,320 um they asked um to look at prior source 509 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720 of funding and the school u if they ask 510 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,320 the school and if they can ask the 511 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200 school for funding also you know it's a 512 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,720 backup plan either way can we get all 513 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,320 this information and bring it back to 514 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,279 the table yeah I I can I will I will get 515 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,279 the requested information. But again, I 516 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:01,120 don't want to be so concerned about them 517 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,919 asking the school for money um because 518 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,480 it's not a school program. Um there's 519 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,200 definitely some uh connectivity, but I 520 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 don't want us to start to create other 521 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,000 stipulations for them. Um they're 522 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,919 aggressively fundraising. They always 523 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:21,360 are. Um, so I don't see why, you know, I 524 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,480 I'll get the information, but I don't 525 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480 see why it wouldn't be relevant um if 526 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,000 the money is there. And this is, if you 527 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,440 remember, this is what I was talking 528 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760 about when we were in our budget process 529 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,880 around our youth line being um so poorly 530 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,919 funded. Um because now we have people 531 00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:40,720 coming forward with great programs that 532 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200 are producing uh results in the 533 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840 community. And now, you know, we I feel 534 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520 like we're increasing kind of moving the 535 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760 goalpost, pun intended, if you will, on 536 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,279 them to get the funding that they need 537 00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,480 to survive. So, um I guess my question 538 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,720 to the the council is and we can kind of 539 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,520 go around. 540 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Um I'm just trying to I guess the 541 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000 question is will you support it with 542 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,399 information? I know I'm sorry. This I'm 543 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:09,679 Is this a reoccurring manual? 544 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:12,159 Yeah, absolutely. I would be interested 545 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:15,440 to hear how it aligns with Mr. Messa's 546 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,600 priorities overall. And in our community 547 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,159 meetings, is this identified as 548 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,320 something that the community has 549 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,039 identified as something that they're 550 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,440 looking to support that we can support? 551 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,799 But if it's going to be an annual 552 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:32,000 occurring, I'm just curious on, you 553 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,520 know, Mr. Mistake is responsible to 554 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600 parks and recreation. Is this one of his 555 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240 priorities? And if not, can we put that 556 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,720 up and have a a budget request? moving 557 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,039 forward and how do we support this 558 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,559 ongoingly? 559 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,039 Yeah. So, I guess well as far as 560 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,120 community support goes, the fact that 561 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,640 they've been around for 30 years without 562 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880 anybody supporting them, they have been 563 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,480 surviving. So, I think that's a pretty 564 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,279 clear a glaring example of community 565 00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,039 support. So, I think that that so so 566 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,799 that answer that question. As far as Mr. 567 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,480 mistake is concerned, I know that we are 568 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,840 looking to pull money from the um well 569 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,279 their conversation was pulling money 570 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:09,679 from the uh police community engagement 571 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:13,440 fund or or uh no not there is funding 572 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,919 available to offset that program but 573 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:17,760 that's money that's money that is in the 574 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,120 police department right now. Correct. 575 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Police to offset those community um 576 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,120 events. Correct. Correct. Basketball. 577 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Yeah. Yeah. So and that that's for the 578 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,880 basketball. Um, and quite frankly, 579 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,960 that's another program that has been 580 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440 lasting and and and and really people in 581 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 the community have taken that program 582 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,279 under their wings and bid it, you know, 583 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,279 really off the off the muscle and the 584 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,880 community support. Um, so I this in a 585 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360 way just I don't want this to be in 586 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,960 competition of those things and I don't 587 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,799 think that we should view it as being a 588 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,880 competition and I know we will focus on 589 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,360 the cost of this. Um but I I really 590 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,880 think it's important that we recognize 591 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720 that this is an investment and not just 592 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,640 a cost. You know, this will actually 593 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480 save money when we have youth involved 594 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,039 in protective factors. We know what all 595 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,159 the national the data said for how long. 596 00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:06,159 Um so I think that you know this is this 597 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,559 is more of an investment um than is a 598 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:09,919 cost. So I think that's important that 599 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:13,039 we consider that. So um again, so I 600 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,320 guess I'll pull the council to see like 601 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,080 what the support level is for this. So 602 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,760 let's let's hold off on that. Let's uh 603 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760 let's let's look at can we just get the 604 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,279 information and then revisit this and 605 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,640 then it doesn't make any sense to get a 606 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 poll and it doesn't serve any purpose at 607 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440 this point in time to get a poll. Let's 608 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,200 um let's get the information that is 609 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,720 needed. Let's look at what is available 610 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,960 against the 150 line. Let's look at 611 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,720 available what is available against the 612 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,519 109 line under Cocoa House. And then you 613 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:38,720 brought up a good point there. Public 614 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,200 safety funding. We can ask I can ask 615 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,600 them if you don't mind make notes that 616 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760 the public safety available funding that 617 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,760 is $50,000 there and if they're not 618 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,880 going to most of the time they don't 619 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 utilize all the funding and if they are 620 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360 in a good uh position to say well we 621 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,960 can't use all that funding that is 622 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,919 allocated 2525 then more than likely 623 00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:00,799 that can help offset some cost. So we 624 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,080 have three source of funding at this 625 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640 point. So let's let's visit those source 626 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200 of funding. let's come up with some of 627 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840 the question that was asked and let's 628 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,240 revisit at that point in time. I think 629 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,600 at this point in time I don't think 630 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,120 anybody is against it at this point in 631 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,960 time but it's just that we need to be 632 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960 you know open and think it on a broad 633 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 about a spectrum. Sure. So my my point 634 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880 of pulling the council is to see like 635 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,559 what information that if no one's 636 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,799 against it that's good. So my question 637 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,320 is then you know what information 638 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,760 particularly would you need from each 639 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,919 council member to be for it. So, and I 640 00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:34,080 think that you were pretty clear and so 641 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,360 that's that's what I'm asking. That's 642 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360 why I want to go around and get a get a 643 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,799 feel from the council as to where they 644 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,519 stand on this. 645 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:46,630 Yeah, that's that's on there. 646 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,880 I'd like to speak to it because from in 647 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,880 my from my point of view, the question 648 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,120 is if there's funding, do would you 649 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,640 support it? And it sounds like there's 650 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,720 funding. So, um I'm not asking anyone 651 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,559 else to say anything, but I am saying 652 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,320 that I would definitely support this. 653 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,760 familiar with Pap Warner. Like I said, 654 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,120 we've had them down there. We've had Mr. 655 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Rose down there. This organization has 656 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,080 been working for years uh like in a in a 657 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880 grassroots kind of way. And so, um if 658 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120 the funding is there, I'm totally in 659 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000 support of of doing this. And I also 660 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,679 want to make sure if we're if we're 661 00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,200 asking for additional information, when 662 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,039 we come back to the table in two weeks, 663 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,399 we'll then be at the point where we're 664 00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:24,399 going to make a decision because I don't 665 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:26,000 want this to be like, okay, we ask for 666 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,039 information, then we kick it down the 667 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,080 road a little bit, and then we ask for 668 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,880 more information. And um so to Mr. 669 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Farley's point, if there's other things 670 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,640 that people want to know today, in order 671 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,720 to get to gain support, we should just 672 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,559 hash that out now. You know, say this is 673 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,200 what I'd need to be able to to in order 674 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440 to not necessar this is the information 675 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200 I need to know. So to make sure that he 676 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,120 comes back with all the information, we 677 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120 can make a decision in two weeks as 678 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360 opposed to having it then the four weeks 679 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,919 and then we're into the season. Thank 680 00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:57,600 you. Thank you for that. Uh that is a 681 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,320 question and I and I would like to hear 682 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240 from um each member of the council as 683 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,039 the position is on. So I would like to 684 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,000 hear from Mr. Meka um because he is 685 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,520 overseeing all of our recreation 686 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,679 programs. Um I do think that we should 687 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,320 be looking comprehensively at the other 688 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,240 activities that our youth participate in 689 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:20,240 because again I totally agree with Mr. 690 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,639 Farley that and Mr. Williams that these 691 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,639 programs are so important for for our 692 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,399 youth. Um I think we all uh know that in 693 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:29,919 terms of our own families, in terms of 694 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:33,599 our own past experiences um that you 695 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,280 know we want kids to be involved in 696 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,079 these kinds of activities. Um but I 697 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,359 think that we need to I do feel um that 698 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:43,599 we should be looking at all of them. Um, 699 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,040 and we we do have the 700 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,879 $150,000. Um, you know, so I think we 701 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:51,359 have we have funds. Um, if we can use 702 00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:53,520 that funding in that way, then that's 703 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,200 great. It is different from supporting 704 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,280 the fields across the city because those 705 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,760 are capital improvements that just, you 706 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,520 know, it's our responsibility to be 707 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640 making sure that we're our parks uh and 708 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,440 our recreational fields are in, you 709 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160 know, very high quality shape. Um, but 710 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,079 that's sort of a capital investment 711 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,560 versus a programmatic investment, which 712 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400 I also feel, you know, I definitely 713 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,000 would support this. I just want to make 714 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,680 sure that we have a comprehensive 715 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,079 recreational program that might include 716 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,400 pop water, that might include baseball, 717 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,640 that would include common unity, which 718 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,280 is the basketball aspect. Um, well, 719 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,560 common unity is like a whole bunch of 720 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,240 stuff. Oh, that's right. Yes. I'm sorry. 721 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,800 It is. Yes. But, you know, and and the 722 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,880 other programs that we support, I see it 723 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,359 all under an umbrella. And then I also 724 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:41,680 want to footnote that then when we come 725 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480 to October and we're planning for 2026, 726 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,160 I think this is something for us all to 727 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,880 be, you know, considering in next year's 728 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,400 budget as well. So I just annual the 729 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,119 annual thing. So um so in terms of that 730 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:56,320 being capital improvement, that's 731 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,280 absolutely true. The capital improvement 732 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,040 was made at the request of those 733 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,599 organizations and to their 734 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:05,200 specifications. So it's not the same as 735 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,720 the this but it was to their 736 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,920 specifications. They were out there 737 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,680 making sure you know I can name people 738 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,960 that that were out there are a part of 739 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,560 it sort of like the cricket field is 740 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,359 right now they make spec they made 741 00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:17,599 specifications like this is what we need 742 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,079 so it's not uniforms but it is specific 743 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,960 to the needs of those organizations and 744 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,200 um and also these Mr. Ma is the director 745 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,040 of parks. These children do not play in 746 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960 the park. That is the football field 747 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,560 that belongs to Mount Pleasant. Excuse 748 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560 me. Is it Mount Pleasant? Yes. Yes. 749 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,800 Mount Pleasant. So I I'm I'm guessing 750 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,079 that's why he's really not involved in 751 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,560 this because it's not in a park. So he's 752 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560 the director of parks and rec director 753 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,280 of parks and recreation, but he has no 754 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,880 he has mentioned it and in in anything 755 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,160 that he's doing. He talks about all the 756 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,599 activities that are taking place in the 757 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,440 park, which I understand because this is 758 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440 not but this is not in the park. So I'm 759 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,520 thinking that is why it would be it's 760 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,240 not something that would be on his radar 761 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,760 necessarily because it's not in the 762 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680 park. 763 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,240 Go ahead, please. Uh so in response to 764 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,760 the other comments I would be in full 765 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,520 support of this. I think another area of 766 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 focus is the potential cuts to Medicaid. 767 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,920 So I think as we look at demographics 768 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,440 throughout our community that is going 769 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160 to have a truly disproportionate impact 770 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,079 on what our city is able to respond to 771 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,400 with with consideration to healthcare. 772 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400 Uh so I think it is very important 773 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,480 you're going to hear another aspect of 774 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,720 uh these governmental roll backs later 775 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,200 in our agenda. I I think it's important 776 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920 for our city to step up and I think what 777 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,839 that shows to our youth is more 778 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:36,000 intentionality in our our language and 779 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,200 what we are willing to support 780 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,280 financially and I think to Mr. Farley's 781 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,760 point is trying to be very uh uh I think 782 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,320 uh uh appropriate in his language. I 783 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,160 think that performative nature I think 784 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,920 that that a time for that has come and 785 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160 gone and these moments we are not going 786 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,599 to be able to wrap our arms around 787 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,920 everything but the song and then making 788 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520 sure that wind shifts throughout our 789 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000 community is where I think that that is 790 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,560 how we have our greatest impact. 791 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,440 Okay. So I see where you stand Mr. 792 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,800 Williams. Thank you Madam President 793 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,720 Carmel. I think I understand what you're 794 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,240 saying, but I think that we're not going 795 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,839 to be able. So, this ask isn't the uh 796 00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:14,800 collaborative or more holistic ask right 797 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,480 now. This is um for Belmont program. So, 798 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,800 are you saying that right now? You won't 799 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,240 support it unless it's the whole 800 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,000 holistic thing. Is that No, I'm not 801 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,400 saying that. Okay. All right. I think 802 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,640 you know you have the 803 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,079 $150,000 so you know we have the funding 804 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,160 available. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, you 805 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480 would support it then? I would support 806 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640 it. Thank you. Thank you. And I would 807 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,079 support it under the umbrella. I mean, 808 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,240 I'm chair of health and recreation. I 809 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,839 just feel that, you know, moving 810 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,400 forward, we really need to I mean, I 811 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,599 think it's a really good thing to bring 812 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,000 up and I think it leads us to thinking 813 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,040 about as we move forward, how do we make 814 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880 sure that we're comprehensively looking 815 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880 at all of the youth recreation 816 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,520 activities in the city? But but in terms 817 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,440 of I mean, you are correct that they 818 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 came to us and asked for this. So, um, 819 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,680 you know, we're part of their 820 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,599 fundraising, you know, just like I mean, 821 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,359 you know, cuz all the other I mean, Blue 822 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:10,400 Jays are fundraising also. Um, you know, 823 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,560 so, um, but they made an ask. 824 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,839 Go ahead, please. 825 00:39:16,839 --> 00:39:20,480 Um, um, I'd like to know who who the ask 826 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,480 came from specifically 827 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,000 um, for this funding. Is there a 828 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,040 president? Is there a um, core group of 829 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680 parents? sister and I personally like 830 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,079 them to come whoever they ask us from to 831 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,119 speak to us. That's first. Second of 832 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,440 all, I'm all about youth sports. Um, 833 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,880 raising three daughters here in the 834 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,800 city. Um, the uh uh I was connected to 835 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,920 youth soccer club uh is another one that 836 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,720 that's basically always forgotten. Um, 837 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,280 we did invest a lot of money in uh the 838 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,800 Oregon Avenue fields, the uh Michigan 839 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,599 Avenue Fields. Um, and I think that 840 00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,920 those were investments in the fields. As 841 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,240 far as the actual program, um, I know 842 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,240 they they all do a lot of fundraising on 843 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,640 their own. And, you know, I'm I'm 844 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 definitely, you know, in support of uh, 845 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Belmont Pop Warner. Um, knowing a lot of 846 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,240 uh, a lot of students that play in the 847 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,119 environment. Well, um, I know that I 848 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,520 think Pop Warner was started in 1929 in the United States. So, it's been 849 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,200 around a lot. But to be fair and 850 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000 equitable to every youth organization 851 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,320 program, whether it's youth tennis, I 852 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,760 don't know if there's tennis club, I 853 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,359 don't know if there's a youth cricket 854 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:34,880 club. I mean, 15 month, pardon me, 15 855 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,880 love. I think all these organizations 856 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920 are entitled to the same benefits that 857 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,119 um we're looking to spend out of the 858 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:48,400 109, 150, and the um public safety uh group. and I'd be more 859 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,720 and I'm more than willing to support 860 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,040 each and every one of them. Okay. So, 861 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,760 just so for clarity, you said to be a 862 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,599 fair and equitable. what would be like 863 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,280 the 864 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,680 um I I guess really what are the 865 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,440 equitable 866 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,079 uh components of like where you're well 867 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:09,680 they make I think every every 868 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,680 organization wants at this point because 869 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,240 they came at least Belmont California 870 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,119 came with an yeah that's not that 871 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,599 wouldn't even be equal cuz but they came 872 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:23,760 to come with an ask to us and to be able 873 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,359 to decipher each ask I mean for going. I 874 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,480 just don't feel 875 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,560 I I I I hear you and I'm I'm confused 876 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,520 around like 877 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,960 if so if the Blue Jays come and say, 878 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,200 "Hey, hold on. Let me let me finish my 879 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,400 point just so you understand my 880 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,079 question, please." So the Blue Jays come 881 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:48,000 and say, "Hey, city, we need help with 882 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,720 this field to 883 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,800 benefit of, you know, our our our our 884 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040 league here." And then we say, "Okay, 885 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,760 bougie, we hear you." We don't go, "But 886 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,920 wait a minute. What about every other 887 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,400 field? What about this field? And what 888 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480 about we that's not how things are 889 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,640 happening. So I don't understand what's 890 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,079 different about I'm not talking about 891 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:09,920 the field. I'm talking about the actual 892 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,880 players." Sure. Right. Because 893 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,119 programming I I do know again a lot of 894 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:18,800 kids have to pull out. I know this 895 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640 personally. A lot of kids have to pull 896 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,079 out because they can't afford the 897 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,839 uniform. I can't afford the trip to 898 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:26,319 wherever. Their their, you know, um 899 00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:27,839 their their parents don't have the 900 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:29,920 network to fund raise as much as other 901 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,920 parents have the network to fund raise. 902 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,400 So, I I I know all of it. And I want 903 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,319 every youth in our city to be able to 904 00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:39,760 participate in football, basketball, 905 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,880 baseball, um Girl Scout. I'm just 906 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,240 throwing that in there, too, because 907 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,640 it's another organization uh that, you 908 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,079 know, doesn't have any funding. They're 909 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,480 all grassroots. they've all started here 910 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,040 on the ground and we're just trying to 911 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160 um I want them all to be able to 912 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,640 succeed. So, I I can't, you know, I'd be 913 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,960 more than happy to fund part of this, 914 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 some of this, all of it. I don't know 915 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,800 where the funding would come from, but I 916 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,400 want to make sure the ask is available 917 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,800 for for all youth organizations. Well, 918 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480 the ask is always available, and that's 919 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,839 why multiple programs come to us um for 920 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:16,560 support, right? So, so by by Belmont 921 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,760 coming forward, that didn't prevent 922 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,400 anyone else from not coming forward. 923 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480 Let's put it out there. 924 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,160 Since we're discussing this, I mean, 925 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,560 some time back, a couple years ago, the 926 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,800 socket flow had reached out to us asking 927 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,440 for funding and we didn't fund them. So, 928 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,720 I just want to bring that out to the 929 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,440 table and they directly reach out to us 930 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,960 requesting several years, couple years 931 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,560 ago. It's a different day and now we 932 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,400 have different but I just want to bring 933 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,079 that out to the table. you know, since 934 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,319 we're talking about all the different um 935 00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:46,319 components of um these leagues that are 936 00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:49,520 on top. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't cut 937 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640 you off. Oh, no. I I thought it was was 938 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Miss I don't know. So, I think we have 939 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,839 to ask um to find out where are we in 940 00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:00,560 terms of the availing availability. So, 941 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,599 Miss Michael, um would you take this or 942 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,920 would you like me to request it the 943 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,280 availability the funding availability 944 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,920 against the 945 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,319 109,000 line that is on the Cocoa House 946 00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,440 and the $150,000 under the budget, the 947 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,640 2025 budget and what is available under 948 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,720 the public safety foundation. Mr. Chair, 949 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,079 I'm trying to recap so we get 950 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:25,280 information from Yeah, I'm just trying 951 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,880 to remember the 150. Was that just for 952 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,280 summer employment though? Just you. 953 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,319 Yeah. I thought we had two two buckets. 954 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,640 I got looked back. But yes, one is under 955 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,240 of the 109 only and the 150 under the 956 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,079 our budget that we be approved. I guess 957 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,000 we just have to make sure what the what 958 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319 the resolution says in terms of when we 959 00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:46,400 put that money. We definitely did 150 960 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,079 for youth employment. Well, it wasn't 961 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,920 youth employment. That's in the time I 962 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,760 was saying that we should call it the 963 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,760 youth service line. It wasn't so it 964 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,520 wouldn't primarily just be for youth 965 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,960 employment. We don't look at 966 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,440 the so if the funding is available 967 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,880 that's what that's what I'm looking for 968 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,160 and I didn't get a chance to hear from 969 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,359 Mr. May and I want to make so Mr. Turo, 970 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:09,319 you're saying that if the funding is 971 00:45:09,319 --> 00:45:11,280 available, you could see yourself 972 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,200 supporting it, but not in the full ask 973 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440 and only if everyone gets a chance. Is 974 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,359 that what you're saying? If if if you 975 00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:18,560 know people watching the meeting 976 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,640 tonight, if you know the newspaper puts 977 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,480 out there, there's mass, there's money, 978 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,240 there's funding. So, if you need it, 979 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,160 come. 980 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,240 I'm just saying by your logic, you know, 981 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:31,520 uh Mr. Freeman came here with our parks 982 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680 director. He was talking about a program 983 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,280 that they're doing, right? And we're 984 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,040 funding that program. There's multiple 985 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,319 other AAOU programs that operate in and 986 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:44,560 around the city. We we said, "Hey, we're 987 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,440 going to we're going to fund this this 988 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,319 program in this park in sk right in 989 00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:52,160 Skenctity." Which I think is a good 990 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680 thing to do. But if you remember, he 991 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,960 came here and saying, "Oh, we're going 992 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,160 to fund raise." And I said, "Wait a 993 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,520 minute. There should be money to support 994 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,520 this." So, I'm glad I was able to raise 995 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,800 that point. But to based on your logic, 996 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,560 that means that we would have to before 997 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,560 we uh fund that with uh Mr. Freeman, uh 998 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,000 then we would have to make sure that all 999 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640 the other aid uh uh teams got a chance 1000 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040 to come talk to our parts director 1001 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,800 before we fund that. Is that what you're 1002 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,280 saying? Like it it maybe but I do recall 1003 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,760 that the 1004 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,079 police that's coming out of the police 1005 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,720 funding. Sure. No, absolutely. But and 1006 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:27,839 that's why we're wondering we want to 1007 00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:29,200 know where this funding would come out 1008 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,119 of. Mr. Moon is asking for some kind of 1009 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:34,720 you know support where where that's 1010 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:40,240 going to come out of and again I think other people should have an 1011 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,079 opportunity at this point. They do have 1012 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:42,839 an 1013 00:46:42,839 --> 00:46:44,520 opportunity 1014 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,079 for we have to wrap this up. So but Mr. 1015 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:49,680 I just, you know, I just have, if you 1016 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,520 don't mind, I just have to say I have to 1017 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,839 say that I'm really I am really um 1018 00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:55,839 really concerned that a organization 1019 00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:57,359 came for an ask and now we're putting 1020 00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:00,079 all these stipulations on that. That 1021 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,040 bothers me greatly. Um you brought up 1022 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,119 the point that Mr. Mr. Ma brought 1023 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:06,960 forward AAU and nobody at the table 1024 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,079 said, "Well, are we going to fund all 1025 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,400 the AAUs?" So, I I think that we should 1026 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,880 really consider what we're doing and if 1027 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,680 we're always using the same 1028 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040 measurements and if we're not, why 1029 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,200 aren't we? Because, you know, here's 1030 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960 organizations come for ask and I I see 1031 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,160 the, you know, the we just keep like raising the bar on 1032 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,520 what they have to do in order to get 1033 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,960 there. Moving the goalpost. Okay. All 1034 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,560 right. So, let's allow please let's 1035 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,040 allow one individual to So, yes, that 1036 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,720 that's it. That's it. I'm I'm done. I 1037 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,560 just we you've asked you said what we're 1038 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,800 going to do. Yes. So, Okay. So we'll 1039 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,079 have a list of things here that we need 1040 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,000 to um prior source of funding. Um does 1041 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,839 the school can provide any funding? I'm 1042 00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,560 just recapping building coming in next 1043 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,960 meeting. Is that why you you request to 1044 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,720 that? Well, no, I'm just hear from this 1045 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:56,480 immediate kind of need it sounds like 1046 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,079 but I do think that we need to be 1047 00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,760 thinking comprehensively as we move 1048 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,839 forward. Okay. Someone someone asked for 1049 00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:05,040 the organization to come in. Yes. Miss 1050 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,520 Michael, please document this for me, 1051 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,920 please. And I will follow up with Miss 1052 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000 Michael to make sure that the financial 1053 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,640 part of it that we follow up and get the 1054 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,280 available funding against these these 1055 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,760 lines. Thanks. The funding um Mr. uh uh 1056 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,280 Farley uh instead of youth programming, 1057 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,040 youth services, we had to check on the 1058 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,200 resolution. Can that be checked on? It's 1059 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920 a whatever the budget line item is. Mhm. 1060 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,599 The 1061 00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,200 resol resolution passed all that, but 1062 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,520 it's what each one of the line items you 1063 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,720 put in there. So, um probably touch base 1064 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,480 with the finance offer and find out 1065 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,559 where those line items are. That's where 1066 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,200 he's on vacation this week, right? I 1067 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,720 understand. Yeah, he's not here tonight. 1068 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,680 So, I don't Michael, can you um do that 1069 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,200 for us? And when you have that, can you 1070 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,760 share it to the council? What's left in 1071 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920 those lines? No, the the finance and 1072 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,839 also the budget resolution in terms of 1073 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:05,680 the specific detail description because 1074 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,440 I just want to point out and remind 1075 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,599 everyone that we did spend the money um 1076 00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,839 for youth employment over the summer. We 1077 00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:14,079 used, you know, we hired we hired all of 1078 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:15,920 the folks that worked in our parks all 1079 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,319 summer using that line. I'm pretty sure that was the line, 1080 00:49:20,319 --> 00:49:22,319 right, that we that we they are in the 1081 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:26,079 process of of um processing those hires. 1082 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:29,680 42 new somewhere around 40 40 plus plus 1083 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,760 they have some extras some reserve that 1084 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,040 they might add depends on the funding go 1085 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,960 ahead please thank you so so again I 1086 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,480 want to give you a chance to hear from 1087 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,680 Mr. Mancini immediately something um so 1088 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,359 I want to make sure I chance to hear 1089 00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:48,240 from Mr. Tennessee. And so, and it seems 1090 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,599 like the information 1091 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,319 uh that you need is uh what their source 1092 00:49:54,319 --> 00:49:59,200 of funding is. Um and currently um and 1093 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,760 you want to know if they ask the school 1094 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,200 district for money. Um and yes, I asked. 1095 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,480 Now, I'm just making sure I got that 1096 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,160 information right. And this is and we're 1097 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,040 not talking about uh uh Mr. Ma because 1098 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,680 this is something different, right? 1099 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,520 It's just looking forward to I would 1100 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,440 agree with you on that you know should 1101 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,040 be something that we talk about in terms 1102 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,119 of the compreh you know he plans our 1103 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,920 recreational programs it's not just the 1104 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,280 you know in terms of what the city 1105 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,760 supports. So sure and I also would um 1106 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,440 welcome any council member uh to to 1107 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160 think about where other funding within 1108 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,319 the city could come from. I mean I don't 1109 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:37,599 want to you know that's the whole point 1110 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:38,880 of these type of collaborative 1111 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,800 conversations. So, but I think they're 1112 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,720 existing right now. The question is if 1113 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,000 the funding is there, will you support 1114 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,880 it? Mr. Macy. So, and this brought so as 1115 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,480 we get to conclude this brought to a 1116 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,119 good point where we need to broaden the 1117 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,599 description in our budget the line youth 1118 00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:57,280 employment/ programming. I said that. 1119 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480 So, yes. So, we can do that uh and you 1120 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,160 know correct that description as we go 1121 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,559 into the 2026 budget. So, I'll make sure 1122 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,400 that that description is added. 1123 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,359 So, we are looking at employment and 1124 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,119 we're looking at programming to support 1125 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,839 uh leagues across the city cuz I would 1126 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:17,680 like to see that we support all the 1127 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,960 leagues in Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, 1128 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,079 we'll get this back. We got all 1129 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,200 information. We'll make sure we follow 1130 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,599 up with Michael and we'll get all this 1131 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:26,880 information. We'll get all the the 1132 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,839 relevant agency in and what is needed 1133 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:31,280 and we'll make sure that we have all of 1134 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,839 that prior to uh us meeting in two 1135 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,720 weeks. You see, I we have the money. I 1136 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:37,760 would be in support of that. I would 1137 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,440 honestly, you know, maybe this is coming 1138 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,440 to Santa Barbara and see if he's open. 1139 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,200 Doesn't come with a big check. Right. 1140 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,119 Right. Right. Then we can make 1141 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,319 him a resolution. 1142 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:52,800 So, how many how many young people Well, 1143 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,480 if you look down there, there there's 1144 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,880 kind of a breakout. They also do girls 1145 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,160 flag football, too, which is really 1146 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,440 um so like there there's a lot of really 1147 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,480 cool things happening in this program. 1148 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,680 Again, there might be other ways of 1149 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,760 funding. I appreciate everyone uh 1150 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,040 looking for other ways of funding 1151 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,920 outside of us, but as our in our duty as 1152 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,760 council and our official capacity, um um 1153 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,720 we have the ability to fund this 1154 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,079 program, and that's what I'm looking 1155 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,319 for, you know, and if you will, you 1156 00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:24,400 will. If you want, you won't. But let's 1157 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,599 just land on that. Thank you. All right. 1158 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,920 So, we'll have us back in two weeks for 1159 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,480 a 1160 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,190 vote. Mr. 1161 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,160 The the next item is uh creating a trust 1162 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,960 and agency account for band on Broadway 1163 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,480 event. The mayor's not here. Could you 1164 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880 tell me? 1165 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,040 Yeah, I just had a brief conversation 1166 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,559 with the mayor this afternoon prior to 1167 00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:54,280 the meeting. Um this is setting up an 1168 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,839 account for this um pro this I would say 1169 00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,960 event on uh on Broadway to receive 1170 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,440 funding from sponsors 1171 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,880 and other source of funding to help 1172 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,839 carry out this event um during the 1173 00:53:10,839 --> 00:53:13,920 summer. Go ahead, please. So um this is 1174 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,440 says we're partnering with restaurants. 1175 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,839 So um since we're being specific about 1176 00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,760 things, which restaurants are they? I 1177 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,520 would like to know. 1178 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,400 Okay. Um there's my restaurant on the 1179 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,960 Broadway that is I know it's on 1180 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,760 Broadway between Union and Liberty 1181 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,319 on Broadway. All three all the 1182 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:35,359 restaurant there. Yes. All the 1183 00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:38,400 restaurants there. Yes. So um what days 1184 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,910 and times? 1185 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,599 Well, I'm sure we can get that 1186 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,720 information days and time but to the 1187 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,680 council but I preview for that date and 1188 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,920 time but I was told it's summer. I don't 1189 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,280 know what exact 1190 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200 date but 1191 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,960 um the question is here is just creating 1192 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,599 the account so that we can um deposit 1193 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,160 sponsorship money without that we can't 1194 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,559 deposit the money. 1195 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:09,839 I have further questions. Go ahead. Go 1196 00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,359 ahead please. So, 1197 00:54:12,359 --> 00:54:14,960 um, I guess I want to know if if these 1198 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,480 are private businesses and they're 1199 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,800 getting sponsorships, then why is the 1200 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,559 money being funneled through the city? I 1201 00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,119 don't understand that businesses get the 1202 00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,359 downtown gets I see sponsorship stuff 1203 00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:27,440 all the time on various restaurants. So, 1204 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,680 I'm not really clear on why we are 1205 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,960 funneling this money or being the 1206 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,440 fidiciary for this money. And if we are 1207 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,920 doing that, are we getting paid to do 1208 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,950 that? 1209 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,599 Paid to do it. fidiciaries get money. I 1210 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:42,880 mean, we're doing it just for free. I 1211 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040 mean, why are we doing it? Okay, go 1212 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,880 ahead, please. Well, I just want to say 1213 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,839 I think that what what this is 1214 00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:51,920 suggesting is that Bands on Broadway 1215 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,520 would be a City of Skenctity event. So, 1216 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,000 it's going to be weekly. It's going to 1217 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,720 be um a band, a different band every 1218 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,240 week. It is going to be on Broadway. 1219 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,319 They're closed down the street. The 1220 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:06,480 restaurants are not um the restaurants 1221 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,960 will be involved. Um but and again it's 1222 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,559 remember it's an economic development 1223 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,880 thing too in terms of because people 1224 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,720 will be coming onto Broadway they'll be 1225 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,839 eating at these restaurants. Um I don't 1226 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:22,640 they're not going to I don't think that 1227 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,559 the sponsorships are coming from the 1228 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,559 restaurants. Um I think other 1229 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,880 sponsorships are going to be sought. The 1230 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,400 trust account that they're looking to 1231 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,160 set up is just to deposit that money 1232 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,559 into be like any of us in a in a private 1233 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,319 organization or you know at our 1234 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:39,200 workplaces. um you know, you need a 1235 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,359 place, you know, as a fundraiser, you 1236 00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:43,200 know, I sometimes I had to set up 1237 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,119 different accounts within our budget to 1238 00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,280 put the sponsorship money into those 1239 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,880 accounts. That's that's what he's trying 1240 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,359 to do. Um in other words, it's just not 1241 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,000 going to go into the city, you know, 1242 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,920 it's it's a that is my understanding 1243 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,599 separate account away from the 1244 00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:59,440 consolidated. 1245 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,040 So that is money is accounted for 1246 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,480 outside of um the regular 1247 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680 city budget funds, right? I just need to 1248 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,839 you said it's on the street and the LR 1249 00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:11,520 clearly says there will be a band 1250 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,599 playing in the Liberty Street parking 1251 00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,359 lot while Broadway will be closed. I'm 1252 00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:19,359 pretty sure they're shutting down the So 1253 00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:20,720 park shutting down the parking lot. So 1254 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,720 that brings me a further question which 1255 00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:24,079 goes back to the day and the time and 1256 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:25,599 what impact does it have on employee 1257 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:26,799 parking because that's where the 1258 00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:29,520 employees park. So 1259 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,960 um and also how much are the 1260 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,040 sponsorships and so I just have a lot of 1261 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,799 questions and this probably is for Mr. 1262 00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:39,520 Um, for Mr. O'Brien, uh, so are trust 1263 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,599 and agency accounts still being done? I 1264 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,920 know that Gatsby at 84 was some they had 1265 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,640 changed it. It's still being done. I 1266 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,559 mean, it's it's it's we can't use it for 1267 00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:51,599 our purposes for purposes, but it can 1268 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,559 still be still be done from what I 1269 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,400 understand and that was the course of 1270 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,040 action that was uh determined by the 1271 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,640 commissioner of finance. So, I'd like um 1272 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,480 if you don't mind us looking at it um 1273 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,799 what Gatsby 84 says in terms of having 1274 00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,559 TNA 1275 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,079 um because I know that there were some 1276 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,559 things that changed in that um 1277 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,319 legislation. So, I'd like us to take a 1278 00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:16,400 look at that. And again, I'm I just 1279 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,319 don't have a clear understanding of if 1280 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,160 there's a group of private businesses 1281 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,920 why they couldn't collectively create an 1282 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240 account to do the sponsorships and why 1283 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,400 it's going through the city. I I really 1284 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,880 need clarity around that. 1285 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,359 Go ahead, please. option then. 1286 00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:33,040 Unfortunately, the mayor is not here 1287 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,520 tonight. Maybe this is something that we 1288 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,359 bring back in two weeks when the mayor's 1289 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:39,200 here. 1290 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,040 Yep. 1291 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200 Go ahead, please. I would be in favor of 1292 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,280 that. But, um, Jasan J 1293 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880 um, Mr. O'Brien, do you know anything 1294 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,599 about that? How funds are No. Okay. I 1295 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:56,160 don't similar to that cuz I don't think 1296 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,280 we I I'm sorry, Mr. Wood. Go ahead, 1297 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,200 please. I don't think we have a TNA 1298 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,960 account at them. And you're right, it's 1299 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,440 pretty similar. It's like going through 1300 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,160 the the SIC. I don't know the answer to 1301 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,559 that question. So, you know what? I know 1302 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,920 who I can ask though because she's the 1303 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,359 person that started it. So, I can 1304 00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,040 definitely ask her how they they manage 1305 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,390 that. 1306 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,119 Bring it back. Go ahead, please. Uh, 1307 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,319 just only say as a point of 1308 00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:24,000 consideration, we al we often hear 1309 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,760 critiques about communication and how it 1310 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760 could have flowed better. Hindsight's 1311 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,359 always 2020. I think to Miss 1312 00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:30,960 Porterfield's point, I believe that's in 1313 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,319 the same parking lot with the school 1314 00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:34,960 district. Also, surrounding businesses, 1315 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,520 parking is very limited downtown. So, 1316 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,359 making a conscientious effort to inform 1317 00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:40,559 them. I don't know if that's something 1318 00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,640 that naturally happens, but again, I 1319 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,640 don't think you can overcommunicate. So, 1320 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,920 definitely if we have time, notifying. 1321 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,599 Go ahead, please. I mean, I think we I 1322 00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:51,760 agree that we need to have more 1323 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,400 information about this um series that's 1324 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,280 going to be city a city event. Um I 1325 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,640 think that we have to remember that it 1326 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,200 will be at nighttime. So in terms of the 1327 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,000 employee parking piece or um I don't 1328 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,640 know about the school district but um 1329 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,680 this is going to be an evening um is the 1330 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,400 school district use the the Broadway 1331 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,040 they uh that parking lot they they've 1332 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,200 had after hours events so I think this 1333 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,559 could conflict. So just sharing 1334 00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:20,319 information. So we're talking about the 1335 00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:22,799 cuz the school district uh has their own 1336 00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:25,680 parking lot behind uh Right. Right. 1337 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,920 So, but there is an agreement. I don't 1338 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,079 know exactly what the agreement is, but 1339 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:32,000 the building that's right next door 1340 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,920 there. So, I don't know exactly what 1341 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,160 that what what that agreement, but we 1342 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,400 definitely use that parking lot um as 1343 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,000 well. So, yeah, it might be something 1344 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,240 that 1345 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,559 I think Liberty Street is the the city 1346 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,960 lot for here. I think that's what we're 1347 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,200 talking Liberty and Broadway right 1348 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,839 behind. Right. Yeah. Over there, which 1349 00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:54,559 makes it right off of Broadway. that 1350 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:58,640 large city that you're talking about. 1351 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,160 Go ahead, please. I I guess regardless 1352 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,240 of the specifics about what night it is, 1353 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,920 what time it is, what bands are going to 1354 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,680 put there, I guess the ask is just to 1355 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,200 create a trust and agency and 1356 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,799 confirmation. 1357 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:12,000 Um, which I I guess we could I'm not 1358 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,319 familiar with this. Gatsby 84 could 1359 01:00:15,319 --> 01:00:19,760 or 84 84. Could you explain that to me 1360 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,520 or it's it's a certain accounting and 1361 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,520 principles government accounting 1362 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,119 standards board has certain guidance 1363 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:28,000 they put out. So we have to look at 84 1364 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,920 um or 34 to see whether it fits within 1365 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,880 that but as I I stated before it was my 1366 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,160 understanding that this you know the 1367 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,240 finance commissioner was okay with uh 1368 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,280 creating this type of account. Sorry. We 1369 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,960 can certainly look at the uh the 1370 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,200 standards board's uh policy documents. 1371 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,200 And also could you see if we have any 1372 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,040 other um uh trust and agency accounts 1373 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,440 within the city? 1374 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,000 There there was one for the dog park at 1375 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,240 one time but that was years ago. Yeah. 1376 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,839 And those but those were like 1377 01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:02,240 individuals who because it was for the 1378 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,559 dog park amendment. But was was it a 1379 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:06,079 business who was trying to get 1380 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,680 sponsorship and then going through the 1381 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,040 city? I think this is a little bit 1382 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,359 different. I think I think what they I I 1383 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:15,359 don't know for sure, but I think what they're looking for here is they're 1384 01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:17,839 going to have bands at that parking lot 1385 01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:19,839 and they're looking for, you know, uh 1386 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:23,440 donations to support that effort for to 1387 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,920 have the bands come to that particular 1388 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,359 location. I think that's what they're 1389 01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:29,119 looking for. 1390 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:32,319 I again I think we'll have the mayor 1391 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:35,440 talk about this next time, but it's not 1392 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,760 that the restaurants are sponsoring it. 1393 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,079 The city of Skenctity will sponsor Bands 1394 01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,000 on Broadway. So, we are looking for the 1395 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,000 sponsorships, not the restaurants. It's 1396 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,079 not private businesses that are seeking 1397 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,640 the sponsorships. It's the city is going 1398 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,400 to be seeking sponsorships. In the same 1399 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,040 way, if you think of Summer Night um 1400 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,640 which is a county um event, they seek 1401 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,799 sponsorships for summer night or they 1402 01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:00,799 seek sponsorships for the holiday 1403 01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:05,079 parade. Um, it's it's not, you 1404 01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,799 know, Grano on on State Street that's 1405 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,160 looking for a sponsorship for the 1406 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,480 holiday parade. It's it's the county. 1407 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,040 It's this and so this is going to be I 1408 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,799 believe my understanding is that this 1409 01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:21,599 would be a new city sponsored activity. 1410 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,760 Well, I appreciate the information. Um, 1411 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,520 I didn't have that. It does not say that 1412 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,280 in the LR. So, you're telling me 1413 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,280 something. Are So, is are these are 1414 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,599 absolutes? So this is no we need to hear 1415 01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,520 from the mayor. So no they say 1416 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,880 sponsorship sponsorship will be 1417 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,920 collected to pay for bands and operation 1418 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,319 of this event. So it's more of creating 1419 01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:43,440 this account, deposit the money and pay 1420 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,359 for the the bands um at this event and 1421 01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:51,200 then um yes we uh don't have a specific 1422 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,319 but I think um the specific is more 1423 01:02:54,319 --> 01:02:56,680 towards um the 1424 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,359 event and when the the hosting of the 1425 01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:02,960 event uh during the summer. So creating 1426 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,680 the account if we can I don't see a 1427 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,359 problem creating the account and then uh 1428 01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:08,799 we can have the mayor back in two weeks 1429 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:11,280 to kind of get provide us the uh the 1430 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,799 detail from you then for the city. I 1431 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:17,200 mean I think you guys pretty much know 1432 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:22,069 you have everything 1433 01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:25,470 the 1434 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,200 broader we have they have our that's all 1435 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,119 we have. you have the broad 1436 01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:32,640 understanding of what the event is 1437 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,599 about. Um, Thursday nights, I believe 1438 01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,319 the band is going to start around 5:00 1439 01:03:37,319 --> 01:03:39,839 5:30. Um, different brands every 1440 01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:43,280 Thursday. We are going to skip uh the 1441 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,240 July 4th Thursday. Okay, that's all I 1442 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,760 have about the event. 1443 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,839 Every Thursday 5:00 p.m. 5:30 5:30 is 1444 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:55,920 when the band's about to start to about 1445 01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,109 8 or 9. 1446 01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,720 Okay, go ahead. Um, I do know uh uh 1447 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,119 Jumping Jacks, Collins Park, whatever. 1448 01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,039 Different businesses on the Avenue or 1449 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:11,559 whatever sponsor the bands like Village 1450 01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:14,799 Pain sponsors the the Grand Central 1451 01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:16,640 Station that particular night. Maybe 1452 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,240 it's something like that. I don't know. 1453 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,160 But I mean, I guess just to get it 1454 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,839 going. I mean, if the recommendation is 1455 01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:24,000 to create a trust and agency thing, 1456 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,480 finance is okay with it. But again, no 1457 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,720 matter what the specifics are, just 1458 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,680 let's create. That's all we're asking. 1459 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,799 Go ahead, please. So, it seems like in 1460 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:37,760 because I'm hearing what our what the 1461 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,720 president is saying around uh us looking 1462 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,079 at like what's the um what changes could 1463 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,160 have happened. Um I think that we should 1464 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,160 probably hear from the mayor on that 1465 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,599 unless he you know, I think it seems 1466 01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:52,240 like he has some um perspective that 1467 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,920 might be missing from the table. I'd 1468 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,920 like to hear the what the mayor's 1469 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,559 thoughts are directly um before we move 1470 01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:03,599 forward in my opinion. Well, go ahead, 1471 01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,079 please. Are we still in finance? Yes, we 1472 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,319 are. I'm now making a motion that we um 1473 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:10,960 set up a trust and agency account uh for 1474 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:17,190 donations for bands on Broadway. 1475 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,160 I don't know if you're waiting for a 1476 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,440 second before there's discussion. It's 1477 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,160 up to you. I mean, I don't Can I Can I 1478 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,640 table? Sure. But any other discussion 1479 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,760 before we So I just again I'm concerned 1480 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,280 about whether we can actually do you 1481 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,160 want us to take a look at 84 and then get back to the uh the council 1482 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,920 on that and then if if if it's okay with 1483 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,319 that then move forward with the 1484 01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:43,440 legislation or or or you want to and and 1485 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,119 I know that the commissioner is out. So 1486 01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:46,720 can we get um since that came out of the 1487 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,000 comprollers's office can we get an 1488 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,520 opinion from the comprollers's office 1489 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,720 because he's not going to be here all 1490 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,119 week. We'd have to wait two weeks before 1491 01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:55,280 we moved forward if we if we're waiting 1492 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,200 for Mr. uh Wukamok. Yeah. Well, we can 1493 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,599 at least try to look and get 84. We'll give it a go and uh see what we 1494 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:05,440 can do and get the the guidance out 1495 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,440 from, you know, 84 or from the 1496 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,680 controllers or both. And uh regarding 1497 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,319 this trust and agency account um the 1498 01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:14,559 idea is the trust and agency account 1499 01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:16,079 will be managed by our finance 1500 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:17,839 department uh to ensure that the 1501 01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:19,079 transactions are accurate and 1502 01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:21,119 appropriate and that the finance 1503 01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:22,720 department will make dispersements from 1504 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,400 the trust and agency account and 1505 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,079 supporting marketing and fundraising 1506 01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:29,039 activities. So that that's the general 1507 01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:32,400 state of it. Um and that uh we can't use 1508 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,400 trust and agency accounts for any sort 1509 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,480 of city of skinnity operations. 1510 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,920 Understood. And uh that's just a broad 1511 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,559 overview. So we can take a look at that 1512 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,799 and report back to the council by the 1513 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:47,359 end of the week. Is that is that uh is 1514 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:49,359 that 1515 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:50,720 I mean I'd like to know who this what 1516 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,240 the sponsor. It's just it's a lot of 1517 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,480 vague information. Um you know but just 1518 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,599 for the broad you know just for the for just the the trust and agency just 1519 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,839 for that without getting into the 1520 01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:03,920 specifics of the program. I'd like to 1521 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,119 know where the funding is coming from. I 1522 01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:06,880 would like to know that. Okay. So, does 1523 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,160 that have anything to do with the 1524 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,119 creating the fund the the account? 1525 01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:13,440 Creating the account 1526 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,079 kind of No, I don't think so. Well, 1527 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,240 maybe not for you, but for me it does. 1528 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,319 But anyway, um so I'm not on this 1529 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,400 committee, so thank you for the time. 1530 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,799 um our city charter that we are allowed 1531 01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:27,280 to create um trust. No, you're you're 1532 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,920 allowed but we have to you know to get 1533 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,960 everybody you know that that level of 1534 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,559 everybody's on the same page. We will 1535 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:36,799 look to see you look at the uh 1536 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:38,319 government accounting standards board 1537 01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:41,599 guidance on the on trust and uh uh trust 1538 01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:43,760 and agency accounts for municipalities 1539 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,039 to you know button that up. 1540 01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:48,400 So you have a motion on the floor. So 1541 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,920 why don't we add that to the table? 1542 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,359 Right. Yeah. just because there were 1543 01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:53,119 more discussion. So why don't we add 1544 01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:56,240 that to the res the motion that you move 1545 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,240 contingent upon contingent upon getting 1546 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,640 that information that's in compliance 1547 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,119 with the government account that uh 1548 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:04,359 guidance 1549 01:08:04,359 --> 01:08:06,880 documents. So, the resolution would be 1550 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,520 that we would set up a trust and agency 1551 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:15,359 account um that was in line with the um 1552 01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:19,839 accounting. Yeah. Gas the gas standards 1553 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,199 which I'm sure our commissioner of 1554 01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:24,719 financing saying 1555 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:26,560 and you will you will get that by 1556 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,600 Thursday uh Thursday hopefully. I'm 1557 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,430 going to guess 1558 01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:34,400 Thursday. All right. So, that motion is 1559 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,440 on the floor. Do I have a second for 1560 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:39,199 that? I'm going to second it. All in 1561 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:42,239 favor? I I. Any other business support 1562 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:43,319 for 1563 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:45,440 finance? May I have a motion to the 1564 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,359 journ? 1565 01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:53,309 Second. All in favor? I. Thank 1566 01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:55,679 you. I'd like to call the order of 1567 01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,279 government operations. We have two items 1568 01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,120 on the agenda. The first one is a 1569 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,960 resolution to see you social security 1570 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,560 office president. Thank you. So, you all 1571 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,080 have the um the legislative request in 1572 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,080 front of you and I know that we've all 1573 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,560 heard about what is going on in terms of 1574 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,880 cutting staff at Social Security, 1575 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,199 cutting funding to Medicare, Medicaid, 1576 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,239 and so um we have the information about 1577 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,159 the bill numbers. So, what I'm seeking 1578 01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:24,000 right now is for the city council to 1579 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,759 pass a resolution that would support um 1580 01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:30,400 the um protecting American social 1581 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,159 security data HR 1877 and um and the 1582 01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:37,159 Social Security Expansion Act uh 1583 01:09:37,159 --> 01:09:39,759 HR1700. So, and then there's there are 1584 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:42,080 Senate bills as well. So, that's my um 1585 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,239 ask. Everything is here. I don't need to 1586 01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:47,040 read it for you. Um, I'm sure you've had 1587 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,880 uh the opportunity to take the time to 1588 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,839 read it through, but it does impact our 1589 01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,600 residents locally, not just the people 1590 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,920 that need the benefits, but also the 1591 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,000 people that work there as well. So, has 1592 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,560 a financial impact, an economic impact 1593 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,880 upon our city. So, I would like us to 1594 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,400 pass a resolution supporting those 1595 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,000 bills. Thoughts, 1596 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,360 comments? Go ahead. Yeah, Mr. Chairman, 1597 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,440 I think you've given the background 1598 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:13,520 information on that. I think it's a good 1599 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,000 summary of the situation and uh I think 1600 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,880 that that should go forward as as as 1601 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,760 proposed. Um I'm just adding to that. Um 1602 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,640 I know sometimes we change things um but 1603 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,719 I I think that's summarizes it as as uh 1604 01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:30,719 Madame President indicated summarizes 1605 01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:33,040 the situation. Thank you, Miss Spectre. 1606 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,960 Yes. Um because I had originally 1607 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,360 actually written a lot of this um 1608 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,800 proposal. Um, I pulled it at the last 1609 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,199 moment because I wasn't sure. We we were 1610 01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,920 talking about it and writing about it um 1611 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,400 prior to really knowing if the federal 1612 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,760 government was going to be moving 1613 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,480 forward with indeed what they now are 1614 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:54,159 planning to move forward to. So, I 1615 01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,719 absolutely support this. Um, the 1616 01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:58,760 language was something that um was 1617 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,640 suggested. Um, so um I am in favor of 1618 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,880 this. 1619 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,480 I would like to make a motion that we 1620 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:08,760 move forward supporting this 1621 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,360 resolution. I'll second. All those in 1622 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,719 favor? I pass. Second on our agenda is 1623 01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:16,800 followup discussion for chapter 93 city 1624 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,320 court regarding representation in 1625 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,360 civilian police review board. 1626 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,159 Thank you. So we we brought this uh 1627 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,960 forward before because sun became 1628 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,520 dormant. 1629 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,000 Mr. Williams and I actually went to the 1630 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,520 upper neighborhood upper union 1631 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,440 neighborhood association meeting and 1632 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,760 they were talking a lot about wanting to 1633 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,760 bring it 1634 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,239 back but 1635 01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:44,480 um no one stepped up to do it. So we 1636 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,960 definitely need to uh take a look at how 1637 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,520 we revise chapter 93. I haven't heard 1638 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,600 from you know um I was looking for 1639 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,199 council member u information on it. I 1640 01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:56,560 didn't receive any which is fine. I 1641 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,159 understand that but I think we 1642 01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:00,960 definitely need to do that. And what um 1643 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,360 Miss 1644 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,800 Pomiteer was has agreed to come and 1645 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,960 visit us um for 16th, not the second. 1646 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,480 Okay. 1647 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:13,360 June 16th. June 16th. And just explain 1648 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,360 where they are. Additionally, she is 1649 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,880 providing information for all of us 1650 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,800 tonight to talk uh it's their first 1651 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,120 quarter report on the type of complaints 1652 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,880 that they have seen and everyone should 1653 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,760 have a copy of that. I just want us to 1654 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,880 get this issue settled about how we uh 1655 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,679 staff that board and we're not so 1656 01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:34,000 they're not in put in the position of um 1657 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,520 continue of having to not have meetings. 1658 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,760 So my question is for Mr. Williams. Has 1659 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,719 that happened to your knowledge that 1660 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:44,560 they have had to postpone meetings or 1661 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,679 adjourn meetings at 1662 01:12:46,679 --> 01:12:49,840 uh in terms of 1663 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,679 uh so last month they were able to meet 1664 01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:53,600 the month prior they did have quorum 1665 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,880 issues. Um they're definitely to the 1666 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,719 best of their abilities. Uh this 1667 01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:00,560 document is to reflect that they were 1668 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,239 able to meet for the first quarter 1669 01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,480 entirely. Um but definitely addressing 1670 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,640 this in whatever capacity of the council 1671 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,840 just ensures that they have the 1672 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,280 appropriate number of representation to 1673 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,360 have 1674 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,679 continued attendance portfolio. And also 1675 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,239 I will say that there was an 1676 01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:17,760 organization that uh their member wasn't 1677 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,760 coming. They got a new gotten a new job 1678 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,600 and so therefore they weren't coming. So 1679 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,760 they are putting forth a new name to 1680 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,600 replace that person. So hopefully that 1681 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,679 will help with their uh the quorum issue 1682 01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:31,360 there as well. Mr. Ter, thank you. Are 1683 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,280 there any other organizations maybe that 1684 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,040 aren't included in in with 1685 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,800 representation on the board that we 1686 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,800 could reach out to or I don't know a 1687 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,480 thought? Well, there's specific 1688 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,640 legislation that I mean it's in a code 1689 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,400 but it's like these organizations, 1690 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,560 right? We could change it, but it's it's 1691 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,239 like there's very specific and then and 1692 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:51,760 then outside of those organizations, 1693 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,760 there's still room for I think there's 1694 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,480 two uh two maybe even I think actually 1695 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:58,640 four. I think there's four um other 1696 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,800 ones, but we could look at chapter 93. 1697 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,760 So, there are um there are other outside 1698 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,760 the agency's loops. I think we probably 1699 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,000 should kind of recommmit ourselves to 1700 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,239 this um as a council cuz I think this is 1701 01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:15,840 one of the things that came out of um uh 1702 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,360 the re police reform. And I think that 1703 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,400 as time passes away from um the brutal 1704 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,320 murder of George Floyd and Briana Taylor 1705 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,360 that we kind of sometimes can um get 1706 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,320 back to our business as usual type of 1707 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,600 thing. So I think this is something that 1708 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,520 we really need to demonstrate to the 1709 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,040 people of the city's connectivity that 1710 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,880 we're committed to the important work 1711 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,239 that this board does. 1712 01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:44,550 Questions, comments, concerns. 1713 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,320 So we'll see. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. 1714 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,560 Sorry. I just wanted to add in so with 1715 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,280 uh her tenative attendance at the 16th 1716 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,760 of next month that allows them time to 1717 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,080 meet the week prior. So they should be 1718 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,239 able to uh conceptualize their thoughts 1719 01:14:58,239 --> 01:14:59,440 and bring them back to the council 1720 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:03,520 collectively. Okay. Thank you. 1721 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,159 No, I no that's I was going to say that. 1722 01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:10,320 Okay. So any more issues on board 1723 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,159 government 1724 01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:13,760 operations? Hearing none I will accept a 1725 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,920 motion to close government operations. 1726 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:21,520 So move second in favor I I we are journ 1727 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,800 social security that's done 1728 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,080 I'd like to call to order the public 1729 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,679 safety committee we have one item on the 1730 01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:29,840 agenda tonight that is the discussion of 1731 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,679 traffic parking near hydrants and 1732 01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:33,199 signage for weight limits on King's 1733 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,199 Road. 1734 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:38,669 Okay. Um 1735 01:15:38,679 --> 01:15:42,719 so I'm sure we all get comments about uh 1736 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:45,199 traffic. We again at the same 1737 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,840 neighborhood association meeting we um 1738 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,560 had feedback on the 25 mph speed limit. 1739 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,239 We had some positive and there's some 1740 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:53,360 people say it didn't make any 1741 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,280 difference. So I guess it depends on 1742 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,040 where you live not where you sit but 1743 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,520 where you live in this case. So um I 1744 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,719 think we need a little bit more time 1745 01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:02,840 with that 1746 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,280 and in terms of traffic 1747 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,360 I we really have to take a look at 1748 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,120 because people are still speeding there 1749 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,480 just no no question. And um one of the 1750 01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:15,920 things that was also brought into the 1751 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,120 meeting was that in terms of putting in 1752 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,159 speed tables, how the determination is 1753 01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:27,310 made uh that it was 1754 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,520 um maybe it could be more than where 1755 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,600 accidents happen. So, so that was you 1756 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,320 know part of it. And the other thing 1757 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,480 that was also and this was just keep in 1758 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:38,239 mind this was the upper Union Street um 1759 01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:39,440 neighborhood association. So they're 1760 01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:41,280 around Union Street, around Central Park 1761 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,679 and all of that. And they had about nine 1762 01:16:43,679 --> 01:16:45,760 items. Wouldn't you say it was great? 1763 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,600 And so what we did was break it down who 1764 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,400 should hear what and started sending out 1765 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,239 emails and on the nine items which 1766 01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:54,400 department they should they should go to 1767 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,800 and um and one of the things was you 1768 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,320 know things that happening in Central 1769 01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,920 Park and you know we all know there was 1770 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,199 just a very recent tragedy 1771 01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:04,880 unfortunately. Um so we definitely want 1772 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,560 to be we are sending emails. It's Mr. 1773 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,760 Cannon um Mr. for the mayor. I mean, 1774 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,600 excuse me. Um, and who else was that? 1775 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,400 Oh, Mr. Wallen. Mr. Wallen. Mr. Wallen. 1776 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,760 And the police department that um got 1777 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,520 with the emails based on on what the 1778 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,199 concerns were and I know that Mr. Wallen 1779 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,120 is going to actually, I believe, going 1780 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,960 to Woodlaw to talk about traffic this 1781 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,960 week. So, there's a lot of conversation 1782 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,920 about traffic that's going on. Um, the 1783 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,560 other part of 1784 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,480 this is parking their hydrants. People 1785 01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:37,679 have been getting a lot of tickets 1786 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:39,960 lately. So, I have a 1787 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,320 question. Does everyone know how far 1788 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,199 away you have to be from Hydra? 1789 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:49,920 Does anyone know? How many? 50. 5. 1790 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,320 No, I was going to say 100. Oh, no. I do 1791 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,960 not. 1792 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,679 It's actually 15 ft. 1793 01:18:00,679 --> 01:18:03,199 Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty close to the 1794 01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:06,080 highway. Oh, actually, um, somebody 1795 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,719 thought it was 5T. That's close to the 1796 01:18:07,719 --> 01:18:09,760 hydrant. And I actually saw somebody 1797 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,280 park 2 feet away, and I'm like, I think 1798 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,679 you're a little too close. But, um, and 1799 01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:15,760 I So, what I would like to recommend is 1800 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,600 that we actually paint. You know, that 1801 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,199 there's places there's curbing, it's 1802 01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:20,960 painting. So, I'd like to recommend that 1803 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,960 we paint the curb. So, there's no 1804 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,920 guessing involved. Um, I'm not sure 1805 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,239 whose um department that falls under. 1806 01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:31,560 I've got something that would make 1807 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,679 that. Okay. 1808 01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:35,679 um but make that suggestion that if we 1809 01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:37,440 could um you know do that. I don't know 1810 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,440 if the code even says anything regarding 1811 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:41,040 that but people have gotten tickets 1812 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,960 because their lack of knowledge. So if 1813 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,040 we have the opportunity to define it for 1814 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,400 people without them having to look up 1815 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:47,840 the code or try to figure it out or 1816 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,600 guess I think that would be an 1817 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,679 opportunity for us to do that. So I'd 1818 01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:53,280 like to I would like to suggest that I 1819 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:54,560 guess I'd have to suggest it through the 1820 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,159 mayor's office and and I will definitely 1821 01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:57,480 do 1822 01:18:57,480 --> 01:18:59,920 that. Oh, I'm sorry. There's one thing I 1823 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,320 forgot to mention about traffic. 1824 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,239 Um cuz I know that you got the text 1825 01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:07,360 message as well. So you you got the text 1826 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,960 message. Um so we got three 1827 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,120 resolutions from excuse me petitions 1828 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,920 from Tracy Collins for the weight limit, 1829 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,560 the stop 1830 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,800 signs. What was the third? Speed. Speed 1831 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,600 speeding. Was it just speeding? It was 1832 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:30,030 definitely speeding on the petition. So 1833 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,800 um and in terms of the stop signs, we 1834 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,880 heard from our engineer and we heard 1835 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,440 from the uh traffic engineer in terms of 1836 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,679 whether stop signs make sense or 1837 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:41,040 something that we're would actually do 1838 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,520 there. And as I remember he's here to 1839 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,640 say to to talk uh to say so if uh we 1840 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,080 need that. But um that they that was not 1841 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,239 their recommendation even though the 1842 01:19:52,239 --> 01:19:54,480 petition they did submit a petition. So, 1843 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:55,760 I want to just make sure I bring it 1844 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,600 forward because uh there was a text 1845 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,320 message that was sent um saying 1846 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,760 essentially that we didn't care about 1847 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,400 the safety of people on Kings Road and 1848 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,199 all of that. Um there was a text message 1849 01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:09,280 which I I initially said something back 1850 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,480 in the text and I said, you know, this 1851 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:12,080 isn't this is not an official means of 1852 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,560 communication and I'll respond to you uh 1853 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,000 via email. So, I just want to know that 1854 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,840 that's out there and they are looking 1855 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,040 for a response to what we do on those 1856 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,960 petitions. And oh, part of the and the 1857 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,080 one of the petitions is um for the 1858 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,600 signage for the weight limit on Kings 1859 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,040 Road, which I did speak with Mr. um 1860 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,239 Collins, and I don't know if you all 1861 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:38,000 know, my understanding he's he's ill 1862 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,520 right now, so that's not why we're not 1863 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,840 seeing him there. Uh, one of them was 1864 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,600 the signage for weight limit on Kings 1865 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,800 Road and when I saw him at the 1866 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,239 comprehensive meeting for the for 1867 01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:48,239 Woodlon. I told him that one I would 1868 01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,159 bring forward and the others I felt like 1869 01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:51,600 there was some decision that was already 1870 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,520 made and so I would bring this one 1871 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,239 forward. So I did ask Mr. um Canon who 1872 01:20:56,239 --> 01:20:57,920 was here this evening to take a look at 1873 01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,760 that and so he is here to explain to us 1874 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,159 about the signage for weight limit on 1875 01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:14,830 King's Road. 1876 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,760 Okay, thank you. So, it's pretty simple. 1877 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,840 Uh, you have we have the list being 1878 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,840 handed out here of the roads that are 1879 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,800 posted for weight in the 1880 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,920 city and Kings Road is not on there. um 1881 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,000 we would we would do so if we see a 1882 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,760 reason to do that but uh it's not itself 1883 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,840 evident to do that. So and it has never 1884 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,520 been posted. I know that was a question 1885 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,000 did my homework on 1886 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,239 that. Mr. President, just question. So, 1887 01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,960 um, wouldn't this 1888 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,800 uh was the petition that's not looking 1889 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,520 at me? 1890 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,040 Uh, what what level of consideration are 1891 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,560 we giving that petition cuz I think the 1892 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,960 people are seeing that. 1893 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,880 So, I'd like to uh let our engineer 1894 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,480 speak to that in terms of how we make 1895 01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,639 those determinations and to my 1896 01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:08,719 knowledge, it's not my petition. Mr. 1897 01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:12,550 Wallen, 1898 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,600 we pardon. May I ask about wheat first? 1899 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,600 Oh, sure. Sure. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, wait. 1900 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,480 I'm sorry. It was on my committee. Yeah. 1901 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,440 So, Mr. So, um it's not on here. It was 1902 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,520 never on here. Um what would be the 1903 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,080 possibility of um because that's uh 1904 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,080 going over the new bridge and and 1905 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,840 construction and things that happened 1906 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,679 when I came through. Is it something 1907 01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:37,199 that we should consider to maintain the 1908 01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:39,679 road to maintain? So, it was never 1909 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:42,080 there. It was never there. Right. Right. 1910 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,920 So, 1911 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,760 is it something we can look into on 1912 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,280 different roads throughout the city that 1913 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,600 maybe not are listed on here? Is it 1914 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,760 something we can post there? Is there a 1915 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,679 lot of uh is there any way to um see 1916 01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:59,040 what type of trucks are using K's road? 1917 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,800 Um as far as, you know, again, we want 1918 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,639 to maintain our our our roads, the 1919 01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:07,440 asphalt, everything that's happening is it is it being used, I guess. So, a 1920 01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:08,400 lot of that would actually have to do 1921 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,600 with engineering and kind of the 1922 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,360 physical makeup of the road. question. 1923 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,760 Well, I guess Mr. My question would be 1924 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,560 why, you know, maybe you'll have answer 1925 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,560 this. Why not post the sign if there is 1926 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,239 a weight limit and there's a concern? I 1927 01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:24,239 know that there was just a water mane 1928 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,159 break there on Kings Road not too long 1929 01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:27,760 ago. I don't know if that's a result of 1930 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,280 that, but I mean, if the people in 1931 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,880 requesting that and there is actually 1932 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,840 wait by I mean I guess my question is 1933 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,400 why not put the sign up? 1934 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,000 Well, I can say that there's a business 1935 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,199 that's on there that already has 1936 01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:44,719 um trucks that are over 8 tons and the 1937 01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,400 business is already located there. So, 1938 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,480 that that's going to be a concern. Um 1939 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,440 yeah, my my my thing is if there is a 1940 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,239 limit 1941 01:23:53,239 --> 01:23:55,760 and then you know we should probably 1942 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,320 post it if people are saying that's what I'm saying. Why not post it? 1943 01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:59,920 But I I appreciate what you're saying 1944 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,000 because Yeah. Sorry. there's there well 1945 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,440 that would mean that if we posted it 1946 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,040 that that business would not be able to 1947 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,560 do business because the trucks they have 1948 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,800 are over eight limits and is it's an 1949 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,159 existing business so um I didn't even 1950 01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:14,320 realize what eight tons were but I got 1951 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,360 educated here by Mr. Wall told me what 8 1952 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,920 tons are. So I will let let him. So is 1953 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,000 the limit 8 tons right now? There is no 1954 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,040 limit right now. Okay. 1955 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:31,750 And never has. 1956 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,600 Is there a question? I was going to ask. 1957 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,199 Is there a question? Yes. Was there 1958 01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:36,560 further clarification that we were 1959 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,639 seeking of Mr. Wall? Yes. Well, whether 1960 01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:44,239 it makes sense, I guess you said there is no weight limit. You talked 1961 01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:45,600 about the Could you just talk about the 1962 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,840 business that's there versus and what 1963 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,840 the impact would be? Sure. In terms of 1964 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,120 that, in our industrial zoned area, 1965 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,840 which is at the toe of the bridge on the 1966 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,280 border of the city, there is a use of 1967 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,880 Badger con uh Badger back trucks. I 1968 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,080 think they have about a half a dozen 1969 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,239 back trucks and the back trucks weigh 1970 01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:09,199 somewhere around 15 tons. 1971 01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,880 So if we ever were to post a street, we 1972 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,840 would probably need to include local, 1973 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,920 you know, local traffic only, 8 tons 1974 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,159 local traffic only so that this person 1975 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,400 could stay in business or we would need 1976 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,120 to somehow res I don't I I don't know, 1977 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,080 reszone the area and he, you know, get 1978 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,520 this business out of there and say that 1979 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,639 we no longer want that. Um, and I I've 1980 01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:35,280 never heard of such a thing, but you 1981 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,199 know, that's what it is. And if we were 1982 01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:40,800 to sign it 8 tons and still allow the 1983 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:41,880 Badger 1984 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,880 trucks, the problem is still there. The 1985 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,520 problem is specific to these trucks 1986 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,480 mainly because of their size. So that's 1987 01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:54,320 whereas I don't know if this actually 1988 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,840 addresses the issue. 1989 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,320 Any other questions for So on the 1990 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,560 Roderdam side of the bridge, is there signs that that say eight tons? 1991 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,830 Yes. 1992 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,960 So, I don't know, you know, how we I 1993 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,159 don't I don't know how we change a 1994 01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:16,239 weight limit that excludes a business 1995 01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:18,480 that's existing. 1996 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:19,920 And I think Mr. Collins, as I 1997 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,199 understand, it was under the impression 1998 01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:23,199 that there was signage, but Mr. Cannon 1999 01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:25,679 is telling us that never that he he said 2000 01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:27,040 to us that the signs were up and then 2001 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,120 were taken down. Mr. Canon was saying 2002 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,600 that based on our city code that and 2003 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:32,960 there's a list of streets you all have 2004 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,120 in front of you that there was no there 2005 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,040 was never a um signage on that 2006 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,679 particular street. Mr. Toro, thank you. 2007 01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:42,639 Um tell me what 8 tons is. Like our 2008 01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:44,800 trash trucks are how many? Well, that'd 2009 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,520 be heavier than that. Um 8 tons is 2010 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,000 16,000 lb. I would guess our garbage 2011 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,800 trucks are probably similar to a vac 2012 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,360 truck. Somewhere around 12 to 12 to 18 2013 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,560 tons. And they're solid. So I I'm 2014 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,159 wondering though the property at the end 2015 01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:03,120 of the street is is it I mean although 2016 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,639 they're heavy and they have to travel to 2017 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:06,800 get to their business, could we ask them 2018 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,360 to go maybe 10 m an hour traveling that 2019 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,400 road? I don't know. Just to to you know 2020 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,639 maybe it's the I know what it's like you 2021 01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:16,239 know to have the house shake when big 2022 01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:18,480 trucks go down my street. I'm wondering 2023 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,199 if if it's a speed factor if we could at 2024 01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:23,760 least reach out to try to accommodate 2025 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,760 the homeowners on that street if maybe 2026 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,320 we would you know go a little less than 2027 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,560 a 25 mph speed limit. M I'm sorry. Yeah, 2028 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,000 Mr. W. Correct me if I'm wrong. The 2029 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,280 tonnage is a reference to the integrity 2030 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,800 of the road, right? That does that take 2031 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,960 into consideration its impact on local 2032 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,149 residents? 2033 01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:47,520 It could be that. Yes. Uh usually um 2034 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,520 it's for bridges. That's where you would 2035 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,639 see it. You know um you know this list I spoke with my predecessors about how 2036 01:27:54,639 --> 01:27:56,880 this list came to be and essentially 2037 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,040 this list came to be because of people 2038 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,480 who are your predecessors not mine. So 2039 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:04,159 if that makes any sense without getting 2040 01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:06,800 more elaborate into it uh I've mapped 2041 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,120 this. I can send you the map of these 2042 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,960 roads. The maps of these roads is 2043 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,600 scattered. It's illogical. Doesn't make 2044 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,639 any sense. Okay. Right. It predates me. 2045 01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:21,280 It predates Brian. It predates probably 2046 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,880 most of you. So to to ask if there was 2047 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,719 any logic behind this beyond why is 2048 01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:28,400 there a logic behind stop signs on 2049 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,239 console road, right? That would say that 2050 01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,080 your predecessors thought that this was 2051 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,480 the best course of action at the time. 2052 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:39,120 Uh I'm not going to stand and say that 2053 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,040 these roads cannot support more than 2054 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,880 four tons. I've never seen a two-tonon 2055 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,440 posting. that was new. A two-tonon would 2056 01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:46,639 mean that anything bigger than 2057 01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:48,159 essentially a Prius couldn't go down 2058 01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:50,560 that road. So, we want to start doing 2059 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,639 that. Then that would be interesting. 2060 01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:54,800 But, 2061 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,840 you know, um that I I wasn't even aware 2062 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,760 of this table till Brian found it. 2063 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,440 And it also says on there that it 2064 01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:05,840 doesn't exclude um it's not it can't 2065 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,120 prevent delivery or pick up merchandise. 2066 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,360 Correct. 2067 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,560 The idea was to 2068 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,719 prevent trucks going. You know, 2069 01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:19,280 similarly, uh you know, that was another 2070 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,520 reason certain one-way streets were 2071 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,840 created. Mhm. To make sure that trucks 2072 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:32,639 did not go down certain ways. So, it seemed that any decision we made 2073 01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:36,239 would grossly impact this one company. 2074 01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,960 And it sounds as if our intent is not to 2075 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,840 cause them any financial hardships um 2076 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,960 willingly or unwillingly. That's I I 2077 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,560 don't know what the direction is for 2078 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,199 that one aspect of it. Um but definitely 2079 01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:51,920 for the other areas of this uh the 2080 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,800 traffic and the uh parking hydrants. I 2081 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,000 definitely think it's our responsibility 2082 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,320 as a city to make sure we are setting 2083 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,560 people up for success. I know this is a 2084 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,639 revenue line and I think it will always 2085 01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:05,600 be present. Um but in response to the 2086 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,440 fee adjustments that we had at the end 2087 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:10,719 of last year, I think the felt changes 2088 01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:13,920 is that we are uh putting in place 2089 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,760 additional mechanisms to get more money 2090 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,199 out of people and that's not the type. 2091 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:19,920 It's how we promote uh safer and more 2092 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,800 efficient uh adherence to our city code. 2093 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,719 Um so I think that's updating our signs. 2094 01:30:24,719 --> 01:30:26,480 If that's painting, although it may be 2095 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,560 tedious, I imagine it will be. I think 2096 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,320 that just presents us as a city that's 2097 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,600 responsive to what the residents are 2098 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,880 saying. Um, but I do want to make sure 2099 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,440 we have a a time to address the aspect 2100 01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:38,880 of the weight limit because that is 2101 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,679 going to take a considerable amount of 2102 01:30:40,679 --> 01:30:45,590 conversation to get that moving. 2103 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,199 Are you requesting that only streets 2104 01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:50,400 with curbs be painted or all? No, that's 2105 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,520 an issue. Not all streets have curves. I 2106 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,760 always forget that. Mhm. M. 2107 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,239 So, so would so with with streets with 2108 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:06,480 no curbs, how would we even how could we even do that? I mean, you 2109 01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:08,080 can't spray the grass. It grows. It gets 2110 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:13,840 cut. So, you spray the road. Okay. Um I 2111 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,920 just Brian wants to say what that effort 2112 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,159 would be. It would be an effort. It was 2113 01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:19,840 to paint the roads. We get quite tied 2114 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,480 up. That was our newest endeavor to to 2115 01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:24,239 just to be clear to paint the curbs or 2116 01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:26,960 to paint the your objective is to paint 2117 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,639 on each side of the hyphen, right? To 2118 01:31:28,639 --> 01:31:32,639 make it clear as you can park. That's going to be similar to New York 2119 01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:35,199 City. New York City. Isn't there someone 2120 01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:37,120 who goes around and paints the hydrants? 2121 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,440 Isn't that I don't know if that person's 2122 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:40,960 even still doing that, but there I 2123 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,000 remember there being an article there 2124 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,000 was someone whose sole responsibility 2125 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,800 was just to paint hydrants. 2126 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,480 I we don't employ anybody that does 2127 01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,719 that. Okay. It was in the newspaper. It 2128 01:31:50,719 --> 01:31:51,920 was a volunteer. Oh, there it was a 2129 01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,440 volunteer. Hey, a volunteer. 2130 01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,400 Are you volunteering? Well, no. 2131 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,880 Can I just add the constituent that kept 2132 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,560 complaining? So, I went back to see 2133 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,800 Phyllis and uh she gave me a little jar 2134 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:05,920 and she said, "And that's for two 2135 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,000 hydrants." So, my friend and I went and 2136 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:09,440 painted his and then I painted the one 2137 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,440 in front of my house. So, anyone can do 2138 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:12,880 that. They will give you the paint for 2139 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:20,790 free. It has to be two hydrants. 2140 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,320 to the public. Well, Mr. Canon is saying 2141 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,199 that to do that would be 2142 01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:28,639 labor intensive and you don't have 2143 01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:30,159 anywhere to do that. Well, we do. It 2144 01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:32,639 would just tie us off quite well just 2145 01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,800 like I mean this is a a thought if just 2146 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,400 like we had the volunteer who was doing 2147 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,600 the P hydrants if if if it's allowed 2148 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,280 because I know there's union concerns 2149 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,280 and all that stuff. if that would be 2150 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,440 something that we'd be open to. All 2151 01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:47,280 right. I guess a suggestion would be if 2152 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,040 we're being responsive to the data that 2153 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,800 we received, is there any way we can 2154 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,840 compile a listing of hydrants that are 2155 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,080 frequently ticketed um and start with 2156 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,679 those and maybe have a staged approach 2157 01:32:57,679 --> 01:32:59,600 cuz sincerely it's not to preoccupy your 2158 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,679 time, which I imagine could be better 2159 01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:04,080 used. I think it's just how do we take 2160 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,760 intentional steps showing the community 2161 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,480 that we hear you and we are working to 2162 01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:11,360 alleviate that burden of not knowing 2163 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:16,229 what 15B is. 2164 01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:19,440 Mr. Tor, thank you again. I I I would 2165 01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:21,360 recommend we reach out to Chief Burns. 2166 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,280 Absolutely. And and have him put out a 2167 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,360 notice what 15 ft are. A lot of people 2168 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,840 are being ticketed. Uh 15 ft is, you 2169 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,840 know, just pretend your height double 2170 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,639 whatever. Um, triple triple triple for 2171 01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:35,440 some of us short. Um, be consistent. You 2172 01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:37,040 know, it's important that we have access 2173 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,239 to the having a fire in the in the wall 2174 01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:42,719 at my house. Um, you know, I'm out in 2175 01:33:42,719 --> 01:33:45,040 the middle of the driveway guiding the 2176 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,679 them down, even though the fire is 3 in 2177 01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:49,280 from my driveway farthered in. But 2178 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,440 anyway, um, on their Facebook page, on 2179 01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:52,880 their website, every time they put 2180 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,800 something out, you know, just to keep 2181 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,629 them clear. 2182 01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:00,639 So I I would like to like I mean just we 2183 01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:02,080 like we had volunteers that cleaned up 2184 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,800 8.90 up above 890. There's just a lot of 2185 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,480 if we can get a volunteer effort to do 2186 01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,040 that because I don't want to take the 2187 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,600 resources if um you know it would just 2188 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,040 be taking away from other things and if 2189 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,159 we if it's something we can get 2190 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,239 volunteers to do and you and it's 2191 01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:17,679 something that the union doesn't have a 2192 01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:20,159 problem with and that you're open to. 2193 01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:21,800 Um, yeah, I 2194 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:26,080 would I would probably uh not volunteer 2195 01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,159 any painting in the city at this time. I 2196 01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:32,159 think that would be a bad idea. Me, too. 2197 01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:34,480 Why is that? Painting. Any painting, not 2198 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:36,320 even the curbs. Correct. Okay. Any 2199 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:37,920 painting that our painters that are 2200 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,120 under us normally do. I would let our 2201 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,280 painters or someone like that normally 2202 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,520 do that painting. Oh, you would? Yes. 2203 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,760 Okay. What do I think? All right. I 2204 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,280 would 2205 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,000 um so then we would I guess start with a 2206 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,840 streamline list. Okay. Yeah. With a list 2207 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,000 of hide because people are I mean we 2208 01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,440 don't randomly bring things up. People 2209 01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:02,080 come to us like hey you know I'm getting 2210 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,000 tickets. A couple people I think last 2211 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,000 weekend and the one guy parked in 2212 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,440 fortunately for him even though I told 2213 01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:09,840 him I know you're too close. He's like 2214 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,040 yeah and he walked 2215 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,520 away. So thank you again. And one last 2216 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,760 time, I think it's important that the uh 2217 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,199 fire department knows, you know, that 2218 01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:20,880 the little handle on the top is up in 2219 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,120 the air because a lot of them are 2220 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,159 sideways and a lot of them don't have 2221 01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:26,159 them on there. I do report that. So when 2222 01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:28,000 you are parking, you can be aware that 2223 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,800 there's a fire hydrant maybe um with the 2224 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,800 grasses tall. Some of the hydrants are tiny, especially over in the 2225 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,880 woodline area. They're about this high. 2226 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,800 So again, that they're they're at least 2227 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,520 noticeable. 2228 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,320 All right, we'll get a list. Okay, thank 2229 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,520 you for your time. 2230 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,400 Uh, so with respect to the weight limit, 2231 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,400 um, I know you were looking to present 2232 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,480 this to council and the consideration 2233 01:35:54,480 --> 01:36:00,080 additional ass at this point. Um, I'm going based on what's been said by 2234 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,159 um, Mr. Cannon and and Mr. um, Mr. 2235 01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:05,920 Wallen in terms of there is there's no 2236 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,440 weight limit. I don't see how we change 2237 01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:10,550 that. 2238 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,159 And I think as we look to make 2239 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:14,320 considerations to accommodate individual 2240 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,920 interests, I think it's important to 2241 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,600 just know that there are individuals in 2242 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,360 these positions with the lived 2243 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,719 experience and knowledge of these 2244 01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:23,280 professions and um at this time there's 2245 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,280 no formal process to recognize a 2246 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,840 petition. Um but sincerely, if any 2247 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,480 residents affected by this decision feel 2248 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:32,880 so to continue voicing their concerns, 2249 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,639 please come to our council meetings and 2250 01:36:34,639 --> 01:36:36,800 make that point clear. Uh if there are 2251 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,080 no other items to uh or no other 2252 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,239 considerations for this specific item, 2253 01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:44,400 Miss Well, I just want Mr. Wallen, if 2254 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,560 you could just um once again for the 2255 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,119 sake of the public speak to how we came 2256 01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:51,760 about the decision about not um doing 2257 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,239 this outside. 2258 01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:56,719 Sure. We did traffic studies based on 2259 01:36:56,719 --> 01:36:59,040 volume. What? On Kings Road. On Kings 2260 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,040 Road. Yep. We did a traffic study a year 2261 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,280 ago that was presented to the council. 2262 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,440 We've done sensor data. We've done 2263 01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:08,080 counts and we have not found that 2264 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,520 traffic the stop signs are worn in the 2265 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,239 area. 2266 01:37:13,239 --> 01:37:16,000 So, are there concerns about like if if 2267 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,760 you to add a stop sign, are there like 2268 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,679 safety concerns about that or is it just 2269 01:37:19,679 --> 01:37:23,119 that it doesn't seem warranted? I guess 2270 01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:25,920 well um you know it was brought up that 2271 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,800 u by the mayor several meetings ago that 2272 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,080 uh one of the things that you could have 2273 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,239 if we weren't properly 2274 01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:34,960 um I don't know what we say vetted but 2275 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,639 you could get a rear end and somebody 2276 01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:38,239 could say that stop sign shouldn't be 2277 01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:40,320 there you know and maybe come and say 2278 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,080 something to the city. I mean the the 2279 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,719 whole idea with a stop sign is that you 2280 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:46,560 know you would need traffic to come from 2281 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,280 two directions not not just the one. So 2282 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,280 really you don't have cross traffic in 2283 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:52,719 the Woodlwan neighborhood that's a 2284 01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:54,880 generator significantly like Kings Road 2285 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,280 would be. So then you you wouldn't need 2286 01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,199 necessary to stop because the gaps are 2287 01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:01,199 present enough where cars coming from 2288 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,119 the side can get onto King's Road. I 2289 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:04,719 doubt anyone ever says that they had a 2290 01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:06,880 hard time pulling out on King's Road 2291 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,960 from any one of the side streets because 2292 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,280 it's a you know the traffic on there is 2293 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,639 not some kind of where you have like a 2294 01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:14,239 state street where it's a just a 2295 01:38:14,239 --> 01:38:17,119 continuous flow of traffic. Um, one of 2296 01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:18,719 the things that I was asked to look into 2297 01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:20,800 that I I will is that, you know, they 2298 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,199 are doing some development uh in the 2299 01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:25,119 Woodwan area. Someone came to planning 2300 01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:27,040 commission with some apartments and 2301 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,560 things like that. So, they were asking 2302 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,800 about that uh and how that development 2303 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,800 might affect traffic. Um, I will look 2304 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,080 into that because I'm sure I'm going to 2305 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,480 get questions on it Wednesday night. Um, 2306 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,560 but when the study was completed, there 2307 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,639 was no warrant and that's what for any 2308 01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:42,880 stop sign or any traffic signal, you 2309 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:47,350 have to meet a warrant. 2310 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:48,800 And I just um just want to remind 2311 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,760 everyone that so when Mr. um Mr. Collins 2312 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,119 has been coming to us about the concerns 2313 01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:54,560 there there have been some traffic 2314 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,960 calming measures that have been done in 2315 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,000 terms of crosswalk. Um was was there 2316 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,280 anything else besides the Well, we did 2317 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,440 crosswalk. We did road striping. Um you 2318 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,040 know, we narrowed the lanes. That's a 2319 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,400 number one thing that you do is you 2320 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:07,840 narrow the lanes to make the roads feel 2321 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,000 narrower. That does work. Um we did do 2322 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,760 guide rail at the corners around that 2323 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,679 area. Um you know the street was already 2324 01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:19,119 narrow. We made it more. Um you know we 2325 01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:21,280 like I said before that is it is a 2326 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,960 federally a eligible road. It's called a 2327 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,360 minor arterial. It is not kind of 2328 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,199 qualified as a local road like most of 2329 01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:28,880 the roads. So that you know we would 2330 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,280 like to keep roads like that flowing and 2331 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,960 we like to keep them open. Technically 2332 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,159 those roads are the ones that I've 2333 01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:36,320 recommended. We don't go putting speed 2334 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,080 tables and things on because those are 2335 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,920 the roads that we rely on to move 2336 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,560 traffic. um if we start with those then 2337 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,719 the local roads uh may get an influence 2338 01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:49,040 where you want to be on that. So it is a difficult situation because 2339 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:50,880 everyone here deals with homeowners and 2340 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,400 it is tough to tell a homeowner that 2341 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,199 lives on Union Street or not or you know 2342 01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:58,080 one of these local arterials that yes 2343 01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:59,840 you have traffic and it will be more 2344 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,159 commercial in nature. It's just that's 2345 01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:03,679 what it is because you know they it 2346 01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:05,199 affects their quality of life and most 2347 01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:06,880 of the things that bring up to you are 2348 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,760 quality of life issues. 2349 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,800 Mr. store. Um, when we were considering 2350 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,360 stadium selling and egress and people 2351 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,679 getting in or not, but it it was at that 2352 01:40:17,679 --> 01:40:20,960 point it was it was uh it was said that 2353 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,000 there was an eight 8 ton limit. Uh, but 2354 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,800 is that Roderdam side or was that side 2355 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,960 as well? Rodam side. And I do want to 2356 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,920 say that my first time I've come from um 2357 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:36,960 King's Road uh towards um Skenctity and 2358 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,800 there is a sign there isn't a digital 2359 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,600 sign there telling me my speed now. Um 2360 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,280 coming over the bridge I was at about 30 2361 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,679 and it was flashing my speed and then 2362 01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:50,960 down to 25. So um would it be possible 2363 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,800 to put something like that? I mean it I 2364 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,320 pay attention to that. Would it be 2365 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:55,840 possible to put something like that over 2366 01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,719 by Kingsway? the people coming towards 2367 01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:00,880 the bridge would slow down as well when 2368 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,320 they see the the the flashing sign. 2369 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,679 Sure. I can talk. It's usually PD. 2370 01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:09,040 They're the ones who own own those 2371 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,639 signs, but I can talk to them about it. 2372 01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:15,440 Start right cuz I just want to make sure 2373 01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:17,040 that everyone understands that we didn't 2374 01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,119 let it fall on deaf ears. No. Use the 2375 01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:21,360 recommendation of our engineer because 2376 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,920 Yeah. And I just want and I'll bring it 2377 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,639 up when I see Tracy again is that much 2378 01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:28,560 like everything else is that I just I 2379 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,920 feel like the council because I hope 2380 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,760 that they have faith in me. We lean on 2381 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,719 engineering a lot. We lean on 2382 01:41:36,719 --> 01:41:39,360 engineering to fix the problems and not 2383 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,400 enforcement of the properties. So, you 2384 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:43,760 know, we can do these things just like 2385 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,679 you say. We lowered it to 25. That's a 2386 01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:47,679 big change. New York State had to change 2387 01:41:47,679 --> 01:41:49,679 legislation. We had to do it for 3 years 2388 01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:51,280 and do a study. All right. Right. And 2389 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,719 now everybody's going, "Nobody's paying 2390 01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:55,840 attention to 25. That's not on me." Mhm. 2391 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,679 All right. And we haven't had issues on 2392 01:41:57,679 --> 01:41:59,560 Kings Road, but we're still having 2393 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,920 complaints. So now, you know, we're 2394 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,159 asked to fix issues that I have no 2395 01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:06,080 documentation of. And then when I do a 2396 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,760 study and the issues don't come up, I'm 2397 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,159 still asked to fix the issues. And now 2398 01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:11,920 it's a weight limit on a road. And even 2399 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,360 if I put the weight limit in place, 2400 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,800 there's tractor trailers that work on 2401 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,679 the road. So, you know, let's we just 2402 01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:19,760 have to really be logical about what 2403 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,520 we're doing. And you know, we can do all 2404 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,719 of these things, but then you have to 2405 01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:24,880 ask yourself, if we did everything, 2406 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,480 would we still have complaints? And I 2407 01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:28,800 feel like we would. That's why we're 2408 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,280 relying on you for your uh your advice 2409 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,840 in these things. I think that's also why 2410 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,600 it's important to Mr. Wallen's point, we 2411 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,600 have to support the decisions that are 2412 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,520 made and accept our uh I guess stance on 2413 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,440 accepting and valuing Mr. responds 2414 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:46,560 feedback because to his credit he is 2415 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,960 sincerely working with very strained 2416 01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,400 resources in the engineering department 2417 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,400 with the expectation to continue year in 2418 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,639 and year out to have greater impacts on 2419 01:42:54,639 --> 01:42:57,280 the city and what I imagine is part of 2420 01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,840 his unspoken uh frustration is 2421 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,600 continuing to have to respond to a 2422 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,560 project that he's already researched 2423 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,480 heavily and thoroughly. So I think part 2424 01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:08,320 of it is we are not going to please 2425 01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:09,920 everyone. I know we need talking to the 2426 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,639 choir. Um, but unfortunately there are 2427 01:43:12,639 --> 01:43:14,960 other efforts and areas in the city that 2428 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,880 require the same due diligence from his 2429 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,679 office and I would imagine part of it is 2430 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:21,600 needs to get on to those areas as well. 2431 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,560 That is not uh a disregard to the 2432 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,000 individuals and residents of this 2433 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,080 neighborhood. That is just unfortunately 2434 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,800 there is not the we're not able to 2435 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,320 accommodate your request and that 2436 01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:33,600 doesn't mean we don't value your 2437 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,119 opinions. It's just there's no 2438 01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:37,119 justification to support them as we look 2439 01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:38,400 at how you would roll that out to the 2440 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,880 entire city. Uh so I say there are no 2441 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,760 other questions or comments. Um asking 2442 01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:50,800 for a motion to adjurnn. So second. All those in favor. 2443 01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,000 Thank you Mr. Long. Um the next Oh, why 2444 01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,719 are you here for this as well? Yes. 2445 01:43:57,719 --> 01:44:00,639 Okay. Um so I'd like to call to order 2446 01:44:00,639 --> 01:44:03,199 city development and planning. And we 2447 01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:05,520 have nine items on the agenda. The first 2448 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,679 item is to authorize license for 2449 01:44:07,679 --> 01:44:10,560 construction and ax access easement with 2450 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,760 the Max Maxon Road, excuse me, Max and 2451 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,239 Alpha Holdings LLC for the Mohawk Harbor 2452 01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:19,280 Lookout project. Miss Barrage. 2453 01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,199 Oh, that was a refer to Mr. Wallen. 2454 01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:22,719 Okay. 2455 01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:24,400 Two sessions ago, we approved a 2456 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,000 construction contract to Carver 2457 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,320 Construction to construct a landing at 2458 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,639 Mohawk Harbor. The landing is not on 2459 01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:33,760 city property. In order to construct and 2460 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:35,199 then allow the public to use the 2461 01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:42,070 landing, we need an easement. 2462 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,639 Any questions? 2463 01:44:43,639 --> 01:44:47,800 Anyone? So, um, let's 2464 01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,719 see. I think I asked this question of 2465 01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:52,880 I'm not sure. So, this the doing this 2466 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,199 additional doing the with these this is 2467 01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:56,719 not going to add any cost to the project 2468 01:44:56,719 --> 01:44:59,360 essentially is my my question. No. No. 2469 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,560 Okay. So there's no additional cost. So 2470 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,880 any any questions at all? I move this. 2471 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,320 I'll second. All in favor? I thank you. 2472 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,119 And the next one is to award the bid 2473 01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:12,520 contract 2474 01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,440 for crack ceiling of select city streets 2475 01:45:15,440 --> 01:45:18,080 2025 to city mark striping LLC in the 2476 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:22,070 amount of $175,440. 2477 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,080 Yes. Yep. So every year we put out a 2478 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,000 crack sealing bid. Crack ceiling is the 2479 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,560 number one preventative man measure for 2480 01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,119 preventing potholes. Uh this year we 2481 01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:33,119 received five bids and the low bid was 2482 01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:36,000 from um city Martin. Uh we have not 2483 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,119 worked with them but we did call 2484 01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:38,320 references. They have worked 2485 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,639 municipalities and we have no reason not 2486 01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:43,600 to recommend that we move forward. Okay. 2487 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,760 Any questions? 2488 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,639 Motion. Second. All those in favor. 2489 01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:51,840 Thank you. Uh third I excuse me is to 2490 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,199 call for a public hearing for the 2491 01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:54,800 redirection of a portion of Chrysler 2492 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,719 Avenue from a two-way street to a 2493 01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:58,320 one-way street from the intersection of 2494 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,400 Craig and Main Streets to holster and 2495 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:04,800 their place. Mr. Wall U city engineering 2496 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,480 and development department has done 2497 01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,320 multiple studies uh that have been 2498 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:09,600 brought and approved by the city 2499 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,920 council. First one was the Craig Main 2500 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:13,199 corridor study and then that was 2501 01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:16,960 followed up uh recently by the Craig uh 2502 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,840 sorry Crane Albany corridor studies. Um 2503 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,920 part of that was the recommendation that 2504 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,480 Chrysler Avenue be turned to one way 2505 01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:27,760 between Crane Street and Orander. Um 2506 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,679 this is a section if anyone is familiar 2507 01:46:29,679 --> 01:46:32,320 that is extremely narrow. Uh it is 2508 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,000 difficult to navigate especially when 2509 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,320 there are two ways. Um and so the 2510 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,719 recommendation was to change it to one 2511 01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:41,119 way. Uh we are bringing this for you now 2512 01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:43,440 because I am in the process of about to 2513 01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:45,600 bid a intersection reconstruction 2514 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,719 project at Crane Chrysler in Maine and 2515 01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:51,520 the approval of this is necessary to 2516 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,350 move forward with that. 2517 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,159 So I I'm I'm sure most of us have driven 2518 01:46:58,159 --> 01:46:59,840 that street. It is a narrow street. Even 2519 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,440 when there's no snow, you still have to 2520 01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:04,080 pull over and let another car pass. Um, 2521 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,400 so the streets that that uh feed into 2522 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,040 that, are they both two-way streets? Uh, 2523 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,800 actually, no. It's the streets on either 2524 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,400 side of what's going to be the freshman 2525 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,400 academy when they open up next year. Uh, 2526 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,800 and I believe they're like one way going 2527 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,800 this way. Um, we have met though with 2528 01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,000 the school district. They are aware of 2529 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:20,960 it. We have met with the fire 2530 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,159 department. We met with the police 2531 01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:25,360 department. So, everyone is aware of it. 2532 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,000 Um, and and and I don't you shouldn't 2533 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,440 see any comments from them because we've 2534 01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:30,639 been working with them for about a year 2535 01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:32,800 on it. Okay. All 2536 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,480 right. And 2537 01:47:35,480 --> 01:47:38,159 so which where so which direction will 2538 01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:39,679 the traffic now be? It will go from the 2539 01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:42,159 intersection of crane towards Orander. 2540 01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:43,880 Okay. All 2541 01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,800 right. Any other questions? Anyone? 2542 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,920 Okay. I'll see a motion. So move second. 2543 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,480 All those in favor I. Thank you, Mr. R. 2544 01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:54,840 Thank you. You're welcome. 2545 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,480 Uh item number four. 2546 01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:01,199 Okay. was uh to reassess yearround 2547 01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,440 alternate side of the street parking 2548 01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:07,840 policy. Mr. Farley, sure. Um I thought 2549 01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:09,600 we were going to be bringing this back. 2550 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:10,719 That's what he's going to tell you. 2551 01:48:10,719 --> 01:48:12,880 Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, I've talked to the 2552 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,040 Bureau of Service uh deputy commissioner was out. He's on vacation, 2553 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,800 but the chief of police is also away on 2554 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,440 vacation. And the assistant chief asked 2555 01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:23,360 uh if that we could push this so that 2556 01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,000 they can have a uh detailed response 2557 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,840 regarding this issue as a group. Nope. I 2558 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,440 appreciate informed decisions, then 2559 01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:31,440 yeah, you can definitely do that. Okay, 2560 01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:32,960 we'll bring that back into the Thank you 2561 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,360 very much for your time. You're welcome. 2562 01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,520 All right, the remaining uh items are 2563 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,800 for property sales. So, um I enterain 2564 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,719 motion to recess planning. Second. All 2565 01:48:44,719 --> 01:48:47,520 in favor? I 2566 01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,040 I'd like to call the order of claims 2567 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,400 committee. We have one item on the 2568 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,520 agenda tonight. Um that is a discussion 2569 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,040 about the needs to be had in executive 2570 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,440 sessions. May motion executive session 2571 01:48:57,440 --> 01:49:01,600 motion second. All those in favor I 2572 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:03,600 session. Any members of the public will 2573 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,560 have to 2574 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:11,150 read. I don't see any 2575 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:45,840 [Music] 2576 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,920 Heat.