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Oh, thank you.

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something else.

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I'm not casual.

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Yeah.

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I'd like to call orders connecting city

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council committee meeting for Monday,

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June 2nd,

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2025. The first committee is finance.

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Mr. Matarin. Thank you. I would like to

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call the finance committee to order and

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the first item is the annual exterior

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permit application fee

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waiver. Since 2018, we have been um

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doing this program to give back to

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our neighborhoods in terms of encourage

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them to revitalize um the neighborhood

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and to participate in the

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exterior work.

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and to enhance their building. Since

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2018, we have seen a lot of success in

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this

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program. And I have attached uh some

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backup documents here. Um during last

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budget, we have increased the

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application fee from

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$56 to $75. So, that's a change there.

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And we're asking for the same um same

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program to roll into 2025.

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And I'm asking for this program to be

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from June 16th to September 14th. The

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reason why because I missed the last

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cycle to bring this to the council. And

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in 2024, we were able to um give back to

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our

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neighborhood homeowner/home at

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$13,410. That report is attached to your

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documents here. So once again, I'm

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asking for the council favorable

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consideration so that we continue this

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program.

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So you mentioned earlier that those

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program was a success. I would say how

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would you define success? Well, in terms

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of the the amount of dollars that people

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are buying into the program, we look at

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the dollar amount. Last year was a small

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year in terms of rolling out and some

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that we had last year. But overall, you

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look at the program, they're upward of

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$20,000 plus each year. So that that's

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the factor as people are actually

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planning the program and doing a full

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permits and taking advantage of this

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u this incentive that we have to

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offer.

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So the one change I would like to make

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on this area on the back of that. Oh,

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sorry. Uh, so I don't know if we can

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recall our conversation last year. A few

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of my reservations were behind whether

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this program was an accommodation or is

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it becoming an expectation and then if

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it is something that you plan to outline

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on an annual basis, my point was uh in

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2024 to build into the budget. Um, I

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definitely want to hear more of your

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continued conversation, but I think

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taking this into consideration with our

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recent fee increases, I think it sends a

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mixed message to code enforcement if

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we're going to raise the fees, but then

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in our busiest season

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provide fee reductions. Um, I would be

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more in tune with hearing this be done

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in a portion of the year where work

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isn't traditionally done, but to me it

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seems as though we are providing

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incentives for work that needs to get

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done. Um, and I was sending sending the

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wrong message to the residents, but then

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also in your spreadsheet who was

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benefiting from this program because I

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saw a number of blanks, there were

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people that were from outside of our

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community. Um, so again, to make sure

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that Scantadians were fit for the bill

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and every year we say that it is a

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budget crisis, uh, I think this is going

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to be a a challenging year that conflict

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will be able to overcome. Um, but

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sincerely, I know $32,000 to some people

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might not seem like a lot, but when we

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get to those budget meetings, everything

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adds up and

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starts. Well, I I wouldn't say outside

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of this, anybody own property is

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connected on occupy or rental unit up to

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four units. We had increased up to four

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units, I think, in the last two years, I

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think. So, because of No, I think what

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we did said was four units was then

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commercial, so we kept brought it down

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to three units. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

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So we keep that's how we end up with

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four units. It's three units and less.

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Oh, I mean people who are buying into

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this program is own occupy and rental

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unit. So you own a property in equity.

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something to the especially your rental

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property to make sure that those those

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property are in good standard so that

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renter can um you know live in a in good

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accommodation I think on your okay so so

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definitely in support of it and my I

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guess my only question would be cuz you

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were saying like the home these are own

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owner occupied so are we looking to

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maybe uh change this to where people

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have primary residence here in the city

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take advantage of it or because listen

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to your point kind of like people that

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live outside of the city of Skenkity um

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like so if I live in New York City but I

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own property here then I'm getting to

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take advantage of this program or is

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that are we looking to make sure that's

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just people primary residents here?

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Well, we we did look at that back then.

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We we we want to leave out rental

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property because we want to encourage

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landlord to bring their property up to

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code not only in the interior but also

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the exterior the property so that when

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tenants are living there they're not

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living in you know in a deplorable

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condition you know buildings you know

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that is not the standard. So that's

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where we kind of put our own occupied

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and rental

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property look at like how the tenants

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the tent impact I feel like how that can

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look like as far as

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like the parameters of it being just if

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you have this property and you are quote

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unquote acting as a slum lord. This

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would be an incentive for you to try to

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get your property up to so the people

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that you're renting to don't aren't

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living in subpar conditions. Yeah, kind

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of. And is encourage people to enable

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the revitalization to come. Okay, here

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is our incentive. You know, we have $75.

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We have this fun to go through um you

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know into the next 3 months. This is our

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incentive giving back to the so the

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homeowners so that they can beautify

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their

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property. You skip that please. Yeah, I

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think um the time period of June to

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September is um appropriate because

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that's when most people because of our

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seasons here in the Northeast. I mean,

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that's really the time that people

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really get to do a lot of work. Um and I

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think that the program is a really good

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one because we want to continue to

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encourage homeowners uh and landlords uh

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to be keeping their properties in good

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shape. Um I think it all adds to uh the

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quality of life in the neighborhoods um

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across the city. So I definitely support

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the support the program. Yeah. And we

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only waving the $75 application fee.

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They still have to pay for the cost over

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that whatever that percentage of

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increase 1% or fixed number and then

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they have 12 months. So if they were

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sometime something happened and they're

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not completing the work within 12

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months, they will have to to pull the

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you know renew the permit and they will

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have to pay the full fee. So it's not

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like they roll over no fee application

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at that point in

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time but just case in point there's

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still uh impacts to staffing um so the

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work in no way is subsidized and so uh

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that higher volume of work is being

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processed at a portion of what fee is

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designated for that line. So again I

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just think it sends a nice message.

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So going back to the four units, I just

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want to touch base on that. I think it's

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three. I can't recall. I think this was

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changed a couple years ago by somebody

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else. Originally, we said four, but then

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we discussed it four if I uh is

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commercial. It's what we consider

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commercial at this point. So I see what

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this says here, but I distinctly

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remember us moving it down to three

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because then it's not commercial unit. I

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don't have a problem doing that.

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It's not my

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So I think maybe I don't know maybe

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corporation council can tell us but

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should it say one to up to four instead

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of one to Oh I guess 1 to four is the

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same as one to three. 1 to three.

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So we need to change that. Yes.

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Any other questions? Go ahead please. So

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because we increased the speed this

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year, did you uh have an opportunity to

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calculate the budgetary impact um in

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terms of what we've done in years past?

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Yeah, we tried to do that but we don't

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know how many people going to buy into

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it. Last year we had 13,000. The year

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before we had 24,000. It's all about

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buying in because we don't want to say

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well we're going to we are looking at

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$25,000. It might not happen. Mhm. You

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know the numbers fluctuate years after

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years. And because there's a a fee

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increase, is there uh any thought

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towards maybe shortening the length of

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time? So what was said is that you know

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this is the building period from June to

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September. Uh however, we're giving them

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12 months. So really extends out past

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September. So we want to consider giving

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them 6 months and that really makes sure

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that they have to get the work done

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because I know our standard process is

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when they have to pay they get 12 months

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but in this case there's no payment.

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Interesting. And so can we, you know,

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shorten that time frame in consideration

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of our entries and deeds? Yeah, we did

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have 6 months prior there, but change

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recently because the city codes clearly

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say that permit is valid for 12 months

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and not 6 months. So even though this is

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a specialized program, you still have to

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stick with that. Yes, I had to change it

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back to change it to 12 months.

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Mr. Ryan, is there no way we can go

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outside of that?

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The trouble is that if this is an

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ordinance, the only way to amend an

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ordinance is to go through a public

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hearing and amend all. Okay? And this is

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just a a short-term program. So you're

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doing it by resolution. You're not

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changing the the framework of the

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parameters. So we have to go with 12

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months.

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Yeah. Prior years we had it 6 months and

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then we were told by corporation council

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we can't I'm just trying to figure out

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the budgetary impact because we did

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increase the fees.

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Go ahead please. So my last comment is

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again the intent is to have this be

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ongoing. I would actually want to

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identify like metrics and ensure that we

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are advertising this to the community.

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This is truly a a benefit. Um but then

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also I recommend maybe having a rolling

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average and then we anticipate that. I

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wouldn't agree with not budgeting

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because we don't know how much it'll be.

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I think it's better to have something

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that we have designated just so as we're

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making these considerations in November,

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it is a better better discussion. I I

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I've taken notes here. So we'll we'll

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discuss that in our budget and just talk

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to the mayor and the finance staff to

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incorporate a line and we can just

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attach a

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number an

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estimate based on this

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year's gift. Any other

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question? So, a couple changes we're

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going to bring back down to three

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units and we have to stick with the um

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the 12 months. So, I have a motion to

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move this forward. So, move second.

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I'm going to second it. All in favor?

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Thank

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you. The ne the next item

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is funding support for Belmont Pop

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Warner program. Mr. Par. Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman. I brought this uh to us in our

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last committee meeting. Um the Belmont

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Pop winner uh football reached out um

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looking for support for funding for

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their youth programs. Um obviously a

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strong uh supporter of all that Belmont

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has to offer. Uh especially um you know

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now I'm hearing about their new steps to

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be even more inclusive around flag

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football including girls. Um Belmont

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isn't just a a football program. is

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definitely a youth mentorship program

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that serves our community um and serves

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some of our youth that are at the most

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high risk youth um and really has been

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doing this making this great impact with

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little to no institutional support. Um

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as we were here at the committee meeting

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there were some questions to me posing

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me around like if has Belmont went to

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the school district. um they're here to

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elaborate a little bit more on that, but

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um to my understanding after speaking

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with the representative Belmont that

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they do partner with the school

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district, but the partnership with the

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school district um is the school

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district has

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uh I think renovated the field of $8

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million into renovations of the field

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and they allow Belmont to uh the use of

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that field as well as when Belmont are

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doing some other fundraisers, the school

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district will use their network to uh

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get that information out to the larger

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community. Um however um uh that's been

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the contribution of the school district.

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The other question was again how they

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have been uh surviving thus far and I

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think that that's the right word to use

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to survive. um hopefully we can help

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them thrive um through our actions, but

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it's really been through grassroots

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efforts um fundraising, even coaches,

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volunteers, people coming out of their

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own pocket um to make sure that uh youth

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have the opportunity to take advantage

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of this program and all the protective

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factors that it has to offer. Um so I do

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have uh you can see both my

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representatives are in the room today.

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Um uh Councilwoman Duro said that she'd

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like to hear um directly from them. So,

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I thought that that was a great idea and

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they're here to speak to uh any

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questions that that council has. Is

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there a representative that's here to

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speak?

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Mr. K. Can you

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please hold it or

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any questions?

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Well, those questions.

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Um the way we've been receiving funding

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as uh 2017 when I took over as vice

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president, it's just community

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um

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Moakonda. They they've been a a great

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len over the years. other than that

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people, families,

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um not a lot of huge sponsorships from

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the corporations. Stos was and still

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does um give us hot dogs, ice cream,

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juices for our hot dog day, which is our

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last sign up of the season usually. Um

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other than

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that, we're making it through. when I

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first took over in um 2017, I sat in a

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meeting with um coach Carpalo and Mr.

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George Rose and my question to them was

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after they asked me to be president. I

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said, "How much would it be for the

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season?" Um at the time, Mr. M uh Mr.

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Paulo looked at me and said probably

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about

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40,000. In that moment, we were $7,000

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in the hole as well. We owe for jerseys

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um the year before banquet. So coming in

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it was like,

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uhoh, I don't know how we're going to do

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it, but if we just put one foot in front

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of the other, we'll make it happen. So

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2025, you know, I'm standing here in

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front of you guys. If you'd like to

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help, we're here. If not, we're going to

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make it

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happen. My question is, so I appreciate

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the fact that you guys survived and I

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think that that's a testament to how

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strong the strength program. nothing

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lasts this long without institutional

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support without having a real impact and

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people recognizing that. Um, but can you

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speak to a little bit to like what does,

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you know, Belmont mean to the to the

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large community and especially some of

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the youth that you guys are serving?

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If he's okay with speaking, I would like

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to hand the mic off to somebody that can

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tell you exactly how this has affected

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their life. I'm good.

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Yeah. So, I'm Norman Booth. Uh I grew up

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through Pop Warner and I've lived in

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Mount Pleasant uh my whole life. Um I'm

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21 years old and I just graduated uh

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Utica University. Um and that's something that I feel like

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I can truly say that I would not be

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where I am today without Belmont Paborn.

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So as you all know, you know, this is our future. Uh, these young men

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are our future and and they always told

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me time flies and I never thought that

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I'd be thinking about rent and all of

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this stuff, you know, and and these are

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things that I told from he's he's been

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like there around my whole life and with

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his children, you know, and and Belma

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Puna gave me something to look forward

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to after school. gave me a reason to

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progress in school because not only was

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I held to a standard because of my

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professors, my teachers, I was held to a

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higher standard because my coaches

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depend on. And you know these this gives

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our our youth a purpose. It gives our

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youth something to to keep going. You

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know, and there's so many things that

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you can get into that are not positive.

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Especially in this world, there are so

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many things that divide us. And football

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is the one thing that brings us all

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together. And you know, these

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children one day they'll be running the

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world. and what will they have to look

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back on in their in their childhood, you

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know, and and who would they be able to

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call their brothers and and football and

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Belmont Warner gives them that? And you

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know, this is like my greatest memories

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are from, you know, traveling and and

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doing all this with my team and and just

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all of the stuff that Belmont brings uh

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to to a young man and and now young

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women's life, you know, and and I'm just

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extremely grateful that I I got to meet

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some of the greatest people ever, you

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know, and that doesn't always mean

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money. That means spirit. And so, and

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that's what Belmont has always taught.

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And and that's the foundation of of this

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city. I I believe in my heart that B my

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paw is one of the greatest things to

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ever happen in in my life. Um you know

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I'm very thankful for you guys giving us

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the opportunity to have a voice. Um

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because it's something that we really

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need in in a world like this today is is

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we need representation and and build my

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pap got us to a place where the city is

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hearing us and and and I think that this

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uh is very important for us to really

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not overlook because when this when when this is all said and done what will

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we have you know and and these this is

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our answer. This is our answer. These

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youth is our answer. So, you know, this

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is very important for us to to to invest

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in it now before it's too late.

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And that's that's all I got. Thank you

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guys.

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I um I had the pleasure of watching him

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grow up, watching him lose family

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members and having just this program to

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depend on um family members being his

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mother.

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So any other question? Go ahead, please.

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You mentioned before that you had

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corporate sponsors. You mentioned one

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name in particular. So, um, how is that

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going this year in terms of your

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corporate sponsors? Uh, the ask, as I

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understand it, was 47,000. Yes. So, the ask is 47,000. Um, which would cover

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the entire program. Does that include uh

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adding young women to it? Young girls as

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well. All right. So, um, are you again

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seeking corporate sponsors this year?

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that I if you guys were to sponsor us, I

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would say we would hold off on that

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until playoff time cuz so past two years

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um all padded level teams have made the

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Super

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Bowl. Three out of five and then five

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out of seven have won the Super Bowls

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locally. After that, we got to go to

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regionals, which is anywhere from

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Maryland to Jersey to or traveling.

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after regionals is nationals, which is

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Florida. Now, they just moved into North

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Carolina, so getting a team of 35 kids

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in North Carolina should be fun um to

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say the least. So, it seems like the

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well, it is the ask itself is to fully

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fund the program to get uh all the all

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of the participants through the season

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through the through the local the

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capital district, right? Capital

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district season. If you guys keep

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winning and doing the things that you're

532
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doing, then that there's more cost that

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can come after that. So, seeking

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corporate sponsorships and still doing

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00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:03,200
the things that you guys are doing to

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sustain will still be something that you

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need to do in order to sustain in case

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that you guys go on past the season.

539
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Absolutely. Okay. And

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um president,

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so um first of all, I just want to

542
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,960
apologize for being late. I got out of

543
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,559
work and then I had an issue on stuff

544
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,720
like that. So, I was doing a lot. Um,

545
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,919
but I just want to say that like yes,

546
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:23,440
for corporate sponsorships, we are

547
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,600
always seeking funding from any sources

548
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,200
that are available. Whether it's

549
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,960
business sponsorships, whether it's

550
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,480
local entities, whether it's

551
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,840
fundraising, like we'll get out and

552
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,279
we'll do things like we're working on

553
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:34,720
car washes, we've done fishing

554
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,400
tournaments, we've done everything you

555
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,840
name it. Concession stands, we do

556
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,600
raffles, like you name it. And we're

557
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,880
always looking for different things. The

558
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,000
main thing that we're always trying to

559
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,919
help as far as funding is concerned is

560
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:45,200
kids that are less fortunate, that are

561
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,880
having a hard time, families that aren't

562
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,320
able to actually pay the registration

563
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,480
fee. The registration fee is only $200,

564
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,919
but it doesn't even cover a fraction of

565
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:54,399
what's really the cost for each child to

566
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:57,360
participate. Helmets alone are $250 a

567
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,840
piece. Shoulder pads are about $75.

568
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,159
Uniform set is $100. So, that's well

569
00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:03,520
exceeding what the cost of registration

570
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,120
is, which we're intentionally keeping

571
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,880
lower than a lot of the other part a lot

572
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720
of the programs in the area and outside

573
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,720
of the area in order to accommodate our

574
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,559
families. But also, there's a lot of

575
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,080
like um financial insecurity around

576
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,600
coming through and asking for that type

577
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,120
of thing. So, if we can open the gates

578
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,640
and let people know that we can actually

579
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,559
step up and provide that for them, then

580
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,000
it's going to allow more kids to come

581
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,360
through. And then there's also a lot of

582
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,039
kids that come by and then we let them

583
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,320
know like, hey, listen, this is what the

584
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,520
registration fee is. And then there's

585
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,880
some hesitancy. And then when we try to

586
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,640
reach out, but people get weary about

587
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,799
asking for things too. And like we want

588
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,480
to be able to provide that for our

589
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,240
community. Like we're serving over 200

590
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,919
kids every single season. Somebody said

591
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:41,520
something about young ladies. We have

592
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,120
girls flag football. We have two girls

593
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,799
flag football teams. We spearheaded it

594
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,640
when we first popped off girls flag

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,000
football in the capital region. We had

596
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,919
the first teams. We also just won

597
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:51,360
championship games. Both of our girls

598
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,120
just won it this year, too. Very

599
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,279
successful. Uh we have a whole

600
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,799
cheerleading program that's been very

601
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,399
successful over the years, too. So,

602
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:00,159
we're serving over 60 girls, too,

603
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:02,320
between flag football and cheerleading.

604
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600
So, it's not just a boy sport. We have

605
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,360
um over 200 football players. Like,

606
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,039
we're we're doing a lot with a lot of

607
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:10,559
kids. I see a lot of other youth

608
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,039
programs in the city as well, but I

609
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,039
challenge any program to say that they

610
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:17,039
have as many kids as we do within the

611
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:18,320
community. And we have a lot more that

612
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320
want to participate, but due to those

613
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
financial insecurities usually don't.

614
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,399
So, I just want to be able to present

615
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:25,919
them with the opportunity to do that.

616
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:27,840
And we will continue to seek sources of

617
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,760
funding wherever wherever we can. I

618
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,480
mean, we've been operating since the

619
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,159
1970s on a shoestring budget. Like I

620
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:36,320
mean when I tell you like I I know

621
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,600
coaches that have personally come out of

622
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,120
their pocket to pay registration fees

623
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
for kids. And it's not that we don't

624
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,320
care to do that cuz we will and we'll

625
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,840
continue to do that and we'll continue

626
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840
to do whatever we need to do year in and

627
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,600
year out with or without you know

628
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,760
financial support from whatever places

629
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,520
we need to get it from. But I'm just you

630
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,039
know it would mean a lot to us and it

631
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,480
would mean a lot to the kids and to the

632
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200
community for you all to you know really

633
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,799
take this into consideration and do what

634
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,320
you can to help our kids out. So we

635
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440
appreciate that.

636
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,799
Go ahead, please. So, this is a question

637
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:06,080
I asked when you weren't here. Someone

638
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,480
asked whether you are here. Uh, it was

639
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,159
spoken to by Mr. Farley, but I'd like to

640
00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:12,320
hear it from you. Um, so I firmly

641
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,399
believe that we invest in ourselves.

642
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:16,720
Just believe in that. And, um, you ask

643
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,240
what you need, but you also give your

644
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,600
own personal investment because people

645
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,039
say, "Hey, we're investing ourselves."

646
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:22,480
So, I just want to know the level of the

647
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640
investment from um, parents, guardians,

648
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440
or whatever in in terms of this program.

649
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Yeah. So, um, our parents are the the

650
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,360
heart of the program. I mean, you'll see

651
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,039
some of our parents are here right now.

652
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,559
Not everybody can make it. We have a lot

653
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,080
going on cuz our kids are also involved

654
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,440
in different sports and extracurricular

655
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,640
activities and we try to keep them as

656
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,360
busy as possible. But like we're all

657
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,960
even when we're not, we're uncles and

658
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,799
we're aunts and we're family members to

659
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,799
kids that are not our kids, right? Like

660
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,320
every kid in this room, we all have all

661
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,399
the adults have attachments to them and

662
00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:51,600
every adult that's within our program

663
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600
has attachments. They're car pooling.

664
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,440
They're covering food and snacks and

665
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,399
things like that or they're getting

666
00:30:56,399 --> 00:30:57,840
hotel rooms when we have to go out of

667
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,520
town to be able to do that and give kids

668
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,880
experiences that they're not normally

669
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,240
getting whether it's in sports or

670
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
outside of sports. And not only sports,

671
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,760
we're encouraging academic success.

672
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,520
We're encouraging behavioral success.

673
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,039
We're encouraging doing the right thing

674
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:10,480
and being a good person first and

675
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,760
foremost and a part of your community.

676
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,120
And we try to model those things as

677
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,039
well. Like we try to show each other,

678
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,559
you know, love and support. And we work

679
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:17,919
through our differences and things like

680
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,120
that. And we try to model those

681
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,279
consistencies in front of the kids. So,

682
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,960
um, yeah, with the parents and the and

683
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,080
the families and the adults that are

684
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,679
within the program. They're the heart of

685
00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:26,720
the program. They're the reason that

686
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,840
we're able to continue. And it's

687
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,360
literally been like that since we were

688
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,200
kids. Most of the adults that you see in

689
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,880
here are part of this program since we

690
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640
were kids. And there were adults that

691
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,080
did those things for us. And that's why

692
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240
we're on the front lines now doing the

693
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,600
same things for the kids that we have in

694
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,799
our community because that's what's

695
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,399
important to us. So, somebody did it for

696
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:44,880
us. We're trying to do it again. Thank

697
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
you.

698
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,279
Any other

699
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,279
questions? two ideas. U Mr. Farmer

700
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,000
states that um he just said he says, you

701
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080
know, Belmont popcorner is high-risisk

702
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,240
youth. Um what makes them like to know

703
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080
exactly what makes them more high-risisk

704
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,840
than any other youth organization maybe

705
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,440
here in our city or any city. Um

706
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,880
you know, I could speak to that. Yes,

707
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,720
sir. Well, I'm asking him at this

708
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200
moment. Well, I can I can ask why I said

709
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,440
that. So, if you ask why I said Yeah.

710
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,519
Um, well, so I can tell you I work in

711
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:20,720
the school district as well. I work at

712
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Mount Pleasant Middle School and I've

713
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,919
worked in a number of different schools

714
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,600
and I've worked with these kids directly

715
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,399
for years now and I I am aware of most

716
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:29,840
of the other programs, but I'm also not

717
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,840
entirely aware of what their dynamics

718
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,000
are. So, I can mostly just speak to our

719
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320
program, but what I can speak to is kids

720
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,679
that I know that have been a part of

721
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,519
this program that have either stopped

722
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,399
being a part of it or moved away or were

723
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,799
no longer a part of it. I've seen have

724
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,799
issues with end up getting in trouble

725
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,880
with the law. Some of our children have

726
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,640
gone out and been murdered, things of

727
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,399
that nature. And also, they're

728
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:55,200
constantly in dire need. As I work as a

729
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,559
community school member or community

730
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,480
school coordinator for Mount Pleasant, I

731
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,240
provide resources and connect resources

732
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,600
to families and needs and things like

733
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,919
that. And our families are always on the

734
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:06,240
list always. They're struggling with

735
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,440
housing, they're struggling with food,

736
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,120
they're struggling with a number of

737
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,320
different things that are going on. So

738
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,159
when we're talking about how do I or

739
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:13,840
what makes me know that they're at risk,

740
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,679
the data also shows too, we have data

741
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,279
that shows what their incomes are in

742
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:18,640
their family households and they're far

743
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,159
below the poverty line on average. So

744
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,960
like just um there's a number of

745
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,159
different things I can speak to and the

746
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:25,440
experiences that we've had with the kids

747
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
that have been like would would really

748
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,720
tug on your heartstrings if I was to be

749
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,000
honest with you that I don't necessarily

750
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,440
have to speak on. You don't have to. I

751
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600
mean I'm just saying I'm sure it's it

752
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,919
overlaps into other areas of youth

753
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:39,039
sports as well. And if I could so just

754
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,480
to provide a little thank you for that

755
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,159
and provide a little more clarity to

756
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,080
what I'm saying. One of the reasons why

757
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,159
that makes um uh kids that are involved

758
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:48,320
in a program like Belmont higher risk

759
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,840
has been the lack of institutional

760
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080
investment in Belmont. So, and so when

761
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
you say higher risk, that means high not

762
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,559
high risk of only you know some of the

763
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:58,159
um you know things that we've talked

764
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:00,159
about like the you know incarceration

765
00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:03,840
and literal murder and things like that kids have been experiencing but

766
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
also they're at a higher risk not to

767
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,960
have an exposure to opportunities like

768
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,679
traveling and ongoing mentorship and

769
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,079
things like that directly because

770
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,480
Belmont has had to operate on that shoe

771
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,480
budget and the community support. So

772
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,079
that's why we have an opportunity here

773
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,159
to directly impact that by making sure

774
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,599
we surprise them provide some

775
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,320
institutional support.

776
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,480
Absolutely. And um you know what you're

777
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,040
saying to be honest with you like the main thing is um a lot of the kids

778
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,639
that are even at the highest level of

779
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,079
risk are the ones that we're missing out

780
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,599
on right now that would love to

781
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,440
participate. Like I said, I've worked in

782
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,399
the school. I've worked in elementary

783
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:41,679
school and middle school. Kids are

784
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,040
telling me all the time they want to

785
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,800
play. And then when I reach out to

786
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960
parents and a conversation is even

787
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,240
mentioned about there's a registration

788
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:50,399
or a cost associated with it. The

789
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,800
conversation stops and it's not through

790
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,800
the desire of the kid falling off. The

791
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,480
kid wants to play and often times a

792
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,240
parent wants them to play but the means

793
00:34:58,240 --> 00:34:59,839
aren't there and and that just makes it

794
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:02,560
difficult and I just for I you know and

795
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,160
my board could get frustrated in me at

796
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,440
times because I we have these

797
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,359
conversations. I never turn a kid away

798
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:09,839
for money. That's 100% I don't I won't

799
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:11,760
we we won't we will do whatever we have

800
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,359
to do to make sure that a kid is going

801
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:14,640
to play whether they have the money or

802
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,000
not. But there also takes a certain

803
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,480
level of parent followrough that was in

804
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,839
the the system for us to get them

805
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:20,800
actually registered and get their

806
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,000
paperwork in and everything like that.

807
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,680
Sometimes that conversation is a stance

808
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,390
that when money is brought

809
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,520
up I have a question for you. Are you

810
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,160
aware of uh we have a CDBG program. Are

811
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,079
you aware of that? The yearly CDBG

812
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,320
program. said CDBG. CDBG, community

813
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,079
development black grant. I'm not

814
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,440
familiar with that number. We can um put

815
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,760
them in contact with Miss Carver to see

816
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,079
next year, you know, something down the

817
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:47,760
line. Certainly, I think to become

818
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920
permanent in the future. Yeah, that

819
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,599
Yeah, thank you for that. I think that's

820
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,160
important that yes, we can help them

821
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,599
moving forward to go through that

822
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,680
process. Um I don't think that it will

823
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,599
be either or though I want to be clear

824
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,280
that you know we still have opportunity

825
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,359
to support them now and then looking to

826
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:05,599
the future. Um I think uh Miss Patrick

827
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,599
brought up a good point uh in our last

828
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,200
committee meeting was like you know in

829
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,599
the future how do we uh um

830
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,000
operationalize this so much so that it

831
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,760
might not just be one or two youth

832
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,440
agencies looking out. I think that I

833
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640
welcome us to revisit um that process as

834
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960
a council. However, the ask right now is

835
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,880
on the table. Um, and these young people

836
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,560
need our support now and then we can

837
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,000
look at what, you know, what the future

838
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,160
holds as well. Yeah. So, we'll

839
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,760
definitely uh put you in contact with

840
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Miss Carver to pay, you know, future

841
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,839
funding and see if that CDBG can

842
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,480
accommodate you in the future.

843
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,079
Appreciate that. Andy, you had a

844
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,440
question. Go ahead, please. So, not

845
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,560
necessarily a question, more of a

846
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,160
comment. As I look around the room and

847
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,079
see these young men, definitely I remind

848
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,560
myself remind myself of me. And then I I

849
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,800
think about where would I be if I didn't

850
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,240
have that sense of community that you've

851
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,560
all provided for them. I look at your

852
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,800
shirt right there and it doesn't say

853
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Mohawk Belmont. It says connectity

854
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,320
Belmont. So I do not think you are here

855
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
asking for anything. That name on your

856
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,359
chest, you are here as a partner. And if

857
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:06,880
you are functioning in this city and you

858
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,040
are identifying a need, that is nothing

859
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,359
to say that the needs of other youth are

860
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:13,680
any less than or saying it's different.

861
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
And if you're highlighting that they're

862
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,599
less fortunate and I imagine some of

863
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:18,800
your parents aren't here because they're

864
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,800
still working or there's child care

865
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,960
issues. Um my two young ones are at home

866
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,240
right now. Uh and there are there are

867
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,320
things that that that certain families

868
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
have to accommodate that others don't.

869
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,400
And I think when we um talk about um

870
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,720
like comparing our upbringing and our

871
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,160
experiences and I think that gets away

872
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,720
from the true point of you presented

873
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,160
yourselves with an ask and you shouldn't

874
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
be penalized because other programs have

875
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,200
not. Um so I am here to say we figure

876
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,079
out how to meet this ask. Um I recognize

877
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:51,839
that this is a collective discussion and

878
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:53,599
although other individuals around this

879
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:54,800
table might not feel comfortable with

880
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,560
that. I think we need to get close.

881
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Actually, no. I do not think we need to

882
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,320
get close because as we have police

883
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,599
officers here in this room, there are

884
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,839
other t tangibles that giving these

885
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,280
young men and young women something

886
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,800
positive to do. It not only uh uh it not

887
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,280
only protects their idol time and now

888
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,280
you are then providing them that sense

889
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,119
of community and ownership in this

890
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,480
program where they're the ones coming

891
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,320
back investing into this and you give

892
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,760
people reason to stay in the city of

893
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,119
Snickly and not feel like they have to

894
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,880
leave. Um so with that I I I definitely

895
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,320
think it is a challenge. It is a

896
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,680
difficult conversation whenever we talk

897
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
about money, but if you expect me to sit

898
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,280
in a conversation where we are making

899
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200
considerations for homeowners to a tune

900
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,800
of 17,000 in 2022, 23,000 in 2023, and

901
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,520
13,000 in 2024, I see all that as

902
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,800
potential money that could have went to

903
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440
this program. And that is not to say

904
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,359
that the issues and and needs of

905
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:50,160
homeowners are less than our youth. But

906
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,520
as you just heard from this young man,

907
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,200
if we do not invest in them now, when

908
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
you

909
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,510
can say something,

910
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,079
no problem.

911
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,640
I feel like Belmont is a beacon of light

912
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480
for a bunch of the underserved children.

913
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,000
They need that help. I'm a father. I'm a

914
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000
family of

915
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,240
six. I come out of my own pocket for

916
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,960
kids. I don't have it like that. But for

917
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,839
them to play, I do that. I feel like we

918
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,240
got to take this serious. Last meeting

919
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,160
you guys were in here discussing,

920
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,599
talking about the Blue Jays. The Blue

921
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,000
Jays have three

922
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320
fields. We don't have a

923
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,440
field to even practice on, let alone.

924
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
You're talking about cricket. I don't

925
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,599
know anybody who plays cricket or even

926
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,400
at a national level playing cricket

927
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,359
respectfully. It has nothing to do with

928
00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:48,800
anybody. But if there's a means for them

929
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,800
to have this, we came here before when

930
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,400
we were going to Florida. We got $100

931
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,720
from you guys. No, that was personal

932
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,760
donation. That was a personal donation.

933
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,000
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, Dad.

934
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Appreciate Appreciate you. But if you

935
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,040
don't want my help, we appreciate it. I

936
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,760
appreciate it. But we got more help

937
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,240
outside of the county and outside of the

938
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,240
city. And what are we what is the

939
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,240
message we're sending to the youth if

940
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,079
we're doing

941
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,079
that? They mean nothing. I want you all

942
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:19,280
right now to look in their face and tell

943
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,800
them they mean nothing. If that's what

944
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,680
it

945
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,960
is, come on. We got to do better.

946
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,839
Skenctity has to do better. I love

947
00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:28,880
Skenctity, but I'm eventually going to

948
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,359
move out if there's no help.

949
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:33,119
I can't do it all by myself. We can't

950
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,040
all do it by ourselves. We can't. We

951
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,720
need help. This is the ask right now.

952
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,000
That's all I want to say. Sorry about

953
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,760
that.

954
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,359
Okay. I al I also wanted to say on

955
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:46,720
that besides, you know, what you're

956
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,960
hearing from people here today um which

957
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040
are multiple compelling extremely

958
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,480
compelling reasons. um as far as uh like

959
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
what we're looking at this as a cost

960
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,960
where we should be looking at this as an

961
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,200
investment because the research will it's pretty clear that uh this type

962
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000
of investment um that dollar circuits a

963
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,839
community four times more than other

964
00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:11,760
dollars before they end up leaving the

965
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,839
community. Then you also have to look at

966
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:15,599
that these are protective factors for

967
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,880
youth um who otherwise might have that

968
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880
idle time. And then we start to save on

969
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:29,119
our public safety dollars and and and uh our police and fire um our other

970
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,599
community agencies that are uh uh

971
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,599
service providers. We start to save on

972
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,000
that resource because Belmont again is

973
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,359
not just about throwing a football back

974
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:40,319
and forth. This is with the most organic

975
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:42,720
um level of youth and mentorship and

976
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,400
family and community building. One of

977
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,520
the best examples that we have in our

978
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
community. So just also we should

979
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,960
recognize that as well. Thank you, Mr.

980
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Chair. Go ahead, please. Um I just have

981
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,040
a question for Mr. Farley. Where um

982
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,520
would you get the money from the budget?

983
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,200
So we have So well we have first I

984
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,640
definitely open that up to the council.

985
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,920
you know that's not a decision I can

986
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,079
make unilaterally but if it was I would

987
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,560
certainly uh say that um let's look at

988
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200
you know what is uh left in our ARPA

989
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,960
funds and if I would draw the attention

990
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040
back to our committee meetings that we

991
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,280
had where I was adamant adamant adamant

992
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,119
about let's make sure that we are

993
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,520
funding our youth services line more

994
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,839
than what it is I it was at the time was

995
00:42:26,839 --> 00:42:30,560
$150,000 and I pleaded with the council

996
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,319
to make that to to bump that to

997
00:42:33,319 --> 00:42:36,160
$300,000. So therefore, things like this

998
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,240
when people come come to us with a

999
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,880
proven product, a proven track record,

1000
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520
build a community um inside of our city

1001
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,200
and keeping our youth safe that we could

1002
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,359
provide them with the support we need.

1003
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:49,839
So where I would see us uh you know, we

1004
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,560
have a couple options um I believe um

1005
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,040
that are on the table now. Um, and I

1006
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,040
still, and me personally, I wouldn't be

1007
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,520
uh against even looking at our general

1008
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640
fund to uh to make sure that we give the

1009
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,119
youth what they need. So, did you have

1010
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,920
any other uh anyone else have any uh

1011
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,280
options around where we could get this

1012
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,440
funding from?

1013
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,800
We did a Sorry. We did talk about the

1014
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,720
$150,000 line in the budget. And then we

1015
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:20,960
talked about 108,000. Mhm. Uh it was um

1016
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920
we did an amendment um late last year

1017
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,040
that is with Koko House and then we have

1018
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,560
that the budget um available budget from

1019
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,079
the um the safety foundation in your

1020
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,480
package areas of the $19,000 each and

1021
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,720
the police and fire. It is my

1022
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,240
understanding that these funds are going

1023
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,640
to be utilized 150 and 108. Is that

1024
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,670
correct?

1025
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,520
It's for the youth program this year.

1026
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,280
which would like the 150,000 in in our

1027
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,440
budget and the one lady that we set

1028
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,800
aside under co house correct that uh

1029
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,119
meeting with uh kids in the school

1030
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,280
district I think next Monday to do the

1031
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,880
formal hiring for the summer so that at

1032
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,560
that point we'll know how many kids that

1033
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,720
we're going to be able to bring on board

1034
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,520
and how much of that money would be

1035
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160
committed over the summer.

1036
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,440
the public safety foundation. Those

1037
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,200
funds, there's uh 37

1038
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480
$38,000 that are listed is

1039
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,480
uncommitted at this point, but that

1040
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,319
funds the

1041
00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:36,560
uh 518 uh summer program in the parks.

1042
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Uh it does the uh Halloween parade

1043
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,079
through the city. Uh, and if you haven't

1044
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,560
participated in that, I would encourage

1045
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,079
you to do it. I'm really surprised the

1046
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,400
number of people that come

1047
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,680
out to that. So, that money is largely

1048
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,160
going to be committed for community

1049
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,359
engagement through the police and fire

1050
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:01,680
department and it's targeted toward

1051
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,280
youth in terms of existing activities.

1052
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,240
And the other ones is again I'll know

1053
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:11,359
after next Monday what our commitment

1054
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:12,960
would be during the summer and what

1055
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,280
would be possibly left over from that.

1056
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,920
But uh Mr. Mosaic is trying to staff

1057
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,640
that up to the budgeted amount. And

1058
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
you're speaking of both lines the

1059
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,680
150,000 plus the 108. Yes. Well, now you

1060
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,760
talk about the ones from Cocoa House,

1061
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:37,040
the some in Cocoa House, which I'm not

1062
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,720
fully aware of what the level of

1063
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,359
expenditure has been on those. Right.

1064
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:44,000
So, Morhead, that was my question about

1065
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,839
the coal house. Um, and I think we

1066
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:47,280
should check with Miss Carver as to

1067
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,280
where we are with that. The further

1068
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,720
question really around that is

1069
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,920
um and I'm not sure if we can do at this

1070
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,440
point. We would have to because we went

1071
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,880
to the budget to see what it says. It

1072
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,400
said youth employment. So we'd have to

1073
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,680
look to see if we could change that

1074
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160
description in order for it to to cover

1075
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,240
this. Um so as as the mayor said the

1076
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:08,640
what's he uh we got an email saying that

1077
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,160
it's been expended in terms of the

1078
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,520
police and fire and Mr. Ma in

1079
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,760
discussions with him uh did say that

1080
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,160
he's really looking to expend the 150.

1081
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,800
So at this point in time outside the the

1082
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,280
general budget looks like the 108 the

1083
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,040
only place we can look at this moment.

1084
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,599
So so how can we get that can we get

1085
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:30,839
that from this

1086
00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:41,550
car in terms of spend against the plan?

1087
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Yeah tomorrow discuss where we sit.

1088
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,240
Okay.

1089
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,079
And that's towards the one we

1090
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,359
correct. Go ahead. I just want to

1091
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:56,640
support that the $150,000 u Mr. MC has

1092
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,160
already done his interviews. I think

1093
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,720
he's looking at 42 youth who actually

1094
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,440
then have paid summer employment. Um, so

1095
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,400
that money is directly going um to

1096
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:12,319
support, you know, make sure that those youth are um viably employed,

1097
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:15,200
learning job skills, um assisting us

1098
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,280
with our recreational program for the

1099
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,319
summer. Um, and it also will keep them

1100
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,400
um you know, engaged and involved um

1101
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,079
outside of their school. You know, it's

1102
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,359
summer, so they'll be working um I think

1103
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:30,079
most of the day.

1104
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,240
But the 108 I do want to say I I would

1105
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,200
be supportive of using uh money from

1106
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Yeah. Let's find out what is available

1107
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,280
against that line and then go ahead. So

1108
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,079
the the $150,000 that's now marked under

1109
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:46,400
our youth employment line um is uh that

1110
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,280
was the line that I was um again asking

1111
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,920
the council to increase during our

1112
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,160
budget for specifically this reason. I

1113
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560
know what that that program line is is

1114
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,319
because you know I was the person who

1115
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:00,720
introduced that and when I introduced it

1116
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,920
then it was supposed to be a a pilot. So

1117
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,440
we were going to look at you know the

1118
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,200
success of it and then look to expand

1119
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,040
it. um the one the first year uh uh well

1120
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,960
I should not to speak to the first year

1121
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,319
but last year we didn't use um the

1122
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:19,359
entire $150,000 in the budget and that

1123
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:21,359
was the justification for not at the

1124
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,800
time of budget conversations of not

1125
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,480
adding to the budget and at the time I

1126
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,480
brought to the council to say that the

1127
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,359
money though the money not being spent

1128
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:33,119
it's not because the need isn't there

1129
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,359
that was our own internal um thing that

1130
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:36,800
we would have to address as far as the

1131
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,559
processes go and now it seems like that

1132
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,680
is being addressed and like I said now

1133
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,680
this is going to be expended. So I don't

1134
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,680
want it to feel like we are trying to

1135
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,760
pit one program against another. We

1136
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,000
amend budgets all the time. We make

1137
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,079
amendments all the time here. So this is

1138
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,079
another opportunity. If indeed that

1139
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,400
money um the line that you're

1140
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,000
identifying if it's not enough money

1141
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
there to support this then I would urge

1142
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,920
the council to yeah let's put our heads

1143
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,200
together and look at like how we might

1144
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,559
have to amend this budget so we can

1145
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:09,270
support our youth and not just say it.

1146
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Yeah. So my sentiment is exactly Mr.

1147
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,599
Farley that you did advocate for that

1148
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,680
last year and that we need to look at

1149
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,079
that moving forward. Absolutely. I think

1150
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,000
you had requested from every council

1151
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,000
member. I was the only one that voted

1152
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,520
against it. Whatever came back to the uh

1153
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160
from ARPA would go to that line and I

1154
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,599
think uh everyone agreed to that um

1155
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,079
except me. I wanted to see what would

1156
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:35,760
come back and where we might need it as

1157
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,599
well. But moving forward, we really need

1158
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,079
to to support our youth uh here in the

1159
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,319
city. Um I just want to say that when my

1160
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:44,800
girls played soccer, I personally

1161
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,720
couldn't afford the registration fee for

1162
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,000
all three um on the travel league. So I

1163
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,520
became the registar and was working with

1164
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,599
Mr. and uh everyone involved in the

1165
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,000
league till 11:12 at night registering

1166
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480
hundreds of kids to play soccer. So I

1167
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,720
know what the struggle is. um is just

1168
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,280
that there are a lot of youth programs

1169
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,839
in the city um that are struggling and I

1170
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,920
would like for each one of them uh to

1171
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,559
have the same opportunity uh to come and

1172
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,640
present itself. Maybe they didn't know

1173
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,400
it was possible. I don't even know if

1174
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,559
there's going to be any money to uh to

1175
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,880
fund these. Uh but I think uh every

1176
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,280
organization should have uh be able to

1177
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,680
come and present themselves to us.

1178
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Absolutely. I agree and I agree with

1179
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,920
that point. But I would be really

1180
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,559
careful how we how we frame that because

1181
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,880
when you say I would like for other

1182
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,760
youth programs to have the opportunity,

1183
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
they absolutely do. They did before

1184
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,559
Belmont did. Right. Right. They they all

1185
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,079
have. So we just don't want to make it

1186
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,319
seem like we are are giving any special

1187
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:47,920
consideration to this program. This

1188
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,000
program actually reached out and said

1189
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,319
this is our situation and we need help.

1190
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:55,680
So at that time it's in our our

1191
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,760
responsibility i.e. our ability to

1192
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,599
respond that we do.

1193
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,599
So, go ahead. And just my my final

1194
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,359
comments, I want to caution us against

1195
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:07,280
looking at that public safety foundation

1196
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,559
money as a funds that we can dictate or

1197
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,319
determine within this room. Very much

1198
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:14,200
the police and fire department have

1199
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,359
long-term ongoing expectations that they

1200
00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:19,440
use those funds for. And when we tap

1201
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640
into those without their input, I think

1202
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,400
it can unfortunately put other programs

1203
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,400
at risk where this is that comparing

1204
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,720
that Mr. Parley often cautions us

1205
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,680
against doing. Um, but very much um we

1206
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,680
often try to find like the the nice way

1207
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,200
to make things work. I don't imagine

1208
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,960
this is going to be nice. And to your

1209
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,800
point, Miss Doro, uh it may feel as if

1210
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,359
we are not accommodating others, but

1211
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:45,040
very much as I think about the language

1212
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,800
that sits in the front of city hall, the

1213
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,119
black lives matter, it doesn't mean that

1214
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,400
only black lives matter. It means that I

1215
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,720
see you, I hear you, and I'm going to do

1216
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,160
something to ensure that your living

1217
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,480
conditions don't reflect now and reflect

1218
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,319
where they should be. And I think as we

1219
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:02,960
take those steps in a calculated effort,

1220
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,520
um the narrative is important to make

1221
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,599
sure that we never truly control that.

1222
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,680
But the hope is that the youth do and

1223
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,559
that as they grow up and aspire to to

1224
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,920
new heights that they will be that four

1225
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,760
times fold investment that we will see

1226
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,920
within the city. Um but sincerely we

1227
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,760
often talk about the exodus out of New

1228
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,839
York State. Not to uh uh make this

1229
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:27,680
conversation much longer than it is. We

1230
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,880
need to figure it out. We need to figure

1231
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,559
it out and I'm on board to figure it

1232
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:32,800
out.

1233
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,800
Go ahead, please. So, my final comment

1234
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000
is um as well is that right now what it

1235
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,359
seems like the conclusion we've come to

1236
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:42,400
is $108,000 is the place that we would

1237
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,040
have to look and um also we should keep

1238
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,280
in mind we always talk about how much

1239
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,440
sports develop young people etc and so

1240
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,480
on. And this is our opportunity to do

1241
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,880
that.

1242
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,240
And we definitely also need to look

1243
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,040
forward to how we do it in years coming

1244
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,359
and to and for others that that come

1245
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:05,280
with an ask. But also, I think there should be ways and I believe

1246
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,000
there's people within this council who

1247
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,000
um can

1248
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,880
actually give advice on how to on how to

1249
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,200
fund raise and how to get money that um

1250
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,200
so if you're cuz not you would

1251
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,480
necessarily always have to come to the

1252
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,240
city for the entire amount but other

1253
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,160
ways to fund raise. So I'm not going to

1254
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,760
say anybody's name but if if the person

1255
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,760
that knows that has that ability wants

1256
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,400
to be able to assist um helping your

1257
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
organization to you know figure out ways

1258
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,319
to fund raise. So, um, you know, having,

1259
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,240
again, investing in our youth and having

1260
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,559
them grow up to be like this young man

1261
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,040
back here, uh, it it makes a difference.

1262
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,800
in our our

1263
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,920
community. It makes a difference in our

1264
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,200
city. It makes a difference in our

1265
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,400
world. So, um, I know it's it's

1266
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,640
challenging this year. We all know that.

1267
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,319
However, I don't think it's a challenge

1268
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:55,440
that we cannot meet,

1269
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,480
Mr. Chairman. So, couldn't uh could

1270
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,480
being that we still have to see exactly

1271
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,040
uh what amount of money is in that line,

1272
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
um could we make the motion that if the

1273
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,720
money is left in that line right now

1274
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,480
that we could move it forwards cuz I'd

1275
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,079
hate to have to go do another funding

1276
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,319
cycle. So if we could So when I was

1277
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:14,880
thinking about recess finance to Monday,

1278
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,880
get the information from the mayor and

1279
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,920
the finance commissioner and we can meet

1280
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,119
at 6:00 Monday,

1281
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,440
recess the committee, meet uh Monday and

1282
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,760
move forward whatever number we have and

1283
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,480
move forward with with application.

1284
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,280
Yeah, that's one way to look

1285
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,680
at that. That's the way to do it because

1286
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,359
we don't know what the money is right

1287
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:39,440
now to do a resolution. You need a the

1288
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,200
budget line item and the amount of

1289
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,359
money. So we couldn't do a resolution in

1290
00:54:46,359 --> 00:54:49,119
um where the resolution would be

1291
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,040
dependent upon if the money is there. We

1292
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,040
couldn't do that. It needs you know the

1293
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,440
finance needs a line item from where the

1294
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,079
money is going to be drawn from. So in

1295
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,880
between then and now there may be other

1296
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,720
line items in which money may be drawn

1297
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:08,079
from. I don't know. So, um I I you would

1298
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,319
you'd be making a resolution still not

1299
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:12,559
knowing what whether or not where the

1300
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,040
money was going to be coming from. So,

1301
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,359
this way you can vote in committee on

1302
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:19,200
Monday to vote it out. There'll be

1303
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,280
unanimous consent if there's money

1304
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,760
available to put it on the agenda if you

1305
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,760
have unanimous consents to put it on

1306
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,359
because

1307
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:29,240
well, it's been a

1308
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,440
committee. We wouldn't need I'm going to

1309
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,440
recess. That's why I'm recessing it so

1310
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
that we don't need unanimous consent.

1311
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,000
So you just have to move it out your

1312
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,480
finance and on to the floor. Okay. Cuz

1313
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,240
if you did something right now, it would

1314
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,240
be Yeah. You don't be you you'd still be

1315
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,880
dependent on that report on Monday. Mhm.

1316
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,200
So let's work on getting a report from

1317
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,640
the academy and let's miss Cargo and we

1318
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,079
can meet um which is good 6:00 next

1319
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:01,990
Monday. I'll figure out

1320
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,040
You're good. Monday and

1321
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,920
6 month. Monday 6 finance committee.

1322
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,880
Yes. Friday. Yeah. So, yes. So, we'll

1323
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,520
recess, we'll be move it out, look at

1324
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,440
the numbers, what is available and just,

1325
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,280
you know, from then on we can move

1326
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,280
forward. Okay. And being that we're just

1327
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,760
recessing. If if we do look into that in

1328
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,720
the particular line that we're

1329
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:24,559
discussing and the money is not there,

1330
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:26,559
um I still want us, you know, to look

1331
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,480
at, you know, possible other options

1332
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,319
because where there's a will, there's a

1333
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:32,319
way. And I think that we need to and

1334
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:33,680
that would also give the mayor the mayor

1335
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,760
has a meeting next Monday in terms of

1336
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,520
seeing what is available any

1337
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,760
availability on that 150 line. So we'll

1338
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,880
see on that line if any availability I

1339
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200
guess at 150. We got tons of money right

1340
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,400
Mr. Mayor we don't have tons.

1341
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,200
So I just want to add

1342
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,839
Go ahead. I just want to add that um we

1343
00:56:55,839 --> 00:56:57,680
should look at the CDBG as well. Not

1344
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,440
just that 108 but city. Well 108 was the

1345
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,839
city. So that was Harperite Harperite.

1346
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:07,200
That's what I mean. We we need to look

1347
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,880
at that as well. Well, we're going to

1348
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,359
encourage them to meet with Miss Carva

1349
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:13,119
and in the future to kind of like submit

1350
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,960
applications so going forward they can

1351
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,760
able to tap into that for CDBG. CDBG.

1352
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,160
Yeah. Go ahead please. I asked an

1353
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,970
answer all sadly.

1354
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:24,400
[Music]

1355
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,079
So I I'll hold everybody tells the

1356
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,079
finance committee until Monday. I'm

1357
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,240
sorry, Mr. Chairman. Just so everybody's

1358
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,160
on the same page. The committee will be

1359
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,040
at 6:00 on the time to be determined,

1360
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,599
but before the council meeting at 7:00

1361
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:38,520
at which

1362
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,079
time line items where money may be

1363
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,720
available will be presented to the count

1364
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,599
the committee. Yes. The committee will

1365
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:49,799
then vote out a

1366
00:57:49,799 --> 00:57:51,839
resolution where that money is coming

1367
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:52,720
from.

1368
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,440
And then unanimous consent is placing it

1369
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,319
on the the agenda because it hasn't it's

1370
00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:00,960
come out of committee but you're it

1371
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,799
hasn't come out of the committee before

1372
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:04,480
Thursday and that's where the resolution

1373
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,760
was but um that's where I'm reading the

1374
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,480
unanimous consent. In other words, it

1375
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,280
it's has all legislation has to be in

1376
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,359
the count in the clerk's office by noon

1377
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:18,000
on Thursday. This won't be there by noon

1378
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,480
on Thursday. And therefore, in order for

1379
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,400
you to consider it, okay, on Monday

1380
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,720
night, it'll require unanimous consent

1381
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,520
to be placed on the agenda. So, I mean,

1382
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,680
but Monday will do holding it till

1383
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Monday night will be Monday night

1384
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,079
because it hasn't um cuz we don't have

1385
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:37,359
the information yet, but I mean, we're

1386
00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:40,000
only talking. Do we uh do we not have

1387
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,920
the capacity to find out what's left in

1388
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,520
that line within the next day or two?

1389
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,440
I I mean that's up to the you know staff

1390
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,440
and and I think what what the mayor

1391
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,160
indicated earlier he's meeting with some

1392
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,000
individuals where there may be another

1393
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,720
pool of money available. So it's not

1394
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,799
only the ARPA money but there could be

1395
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:00,799
another pool and that we don't know that

1396
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:04,319
until Monday under the 25 budget. So

1397
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:06,480
that's why again factor because of the

1398
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,280
mayor's meeting Monday. We had a recess

1399
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:22,069
Monday at 6 o'clock.

1400
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,359
Any other question?

1401
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:28,640
Recess. We have a second. Recess on

1402
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,160
Monday.

1403
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,599
Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. Any

1404
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:36,960
other business? I'm sorry.

1405
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,950
Thank you.

1406
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,799
I'd like to call over city development

1407
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:47,119
and planning and we have five items on

1408
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:47,799
the

1409
00:59:47,799 --> 00:59:52,109
agenda. Uh the first

1410
00:59:52,119 --> 01:00:10,230
item we'll just wait for

1411
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:23,090
here.

1412
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:32,150
[Music]

1413
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,069
All right. So, we're in city development

1414
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:52,030
planning. We can't close the

1415
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,720
door. development and planning. Uh, and

1416
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,400
the first item on the agenda, as I

1417
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,920
understand, is being removed by Mr.

1418
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,520
Wallen. Okay. Yes. Um, you have you

1419
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,960
found other ways to do that. Is that

1420
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,480
correct? Is you're going to be doing

1421
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,000
something different than on item one.

1422
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,870
Come on

1423
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,040
up. Just want to stand.

1424
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,920
Yes. Well, you don't have to do that.

1425
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720
You can go like this.

1426
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,349
Okay.

1427
01:01:24,359 --> 01:01:26,720
Uh, you know, we had this on there. We

1428
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,720
talked with uh department heads and our

1429
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,319
architect and we'd like to see if there

1430
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:32,559
was uh another option that we can do.

1431
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,480
Uh, we do want to preserve the Woodlon

1432
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,480
Park roof. I have gone to the Woodlwan

1433
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,760
Neighborhood Association. They are

1434
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,680
interested in preserving the building,

1435
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,160
but uh that kind of investment in the

1436
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,359
building is something that we're trying

1437
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:45,040
to to lower just to make sure because

1438
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,119
that's a lot of money uh to make into

1439
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:49,520
the roof of the building uh for the

1440
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,520
limited use that it does have. So

1441
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,160
there's no huge urgency with it. So

1442
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,520
we're going to try to reevaluate what

1443
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,839
else we can do. Thank you. Uh item

1444
01:01:57,839 --> 01:01:59,280
number two is the Kings Road weight

1445
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,160
limit posting up at 8 tons. I brought

1446
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,079
this before. Yep. Uh to the last

1447
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:05,760
committee meeting. Mr. Wall has looked

1448
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,920
into it and found figured out how to um

1449
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,319
bring resolution to this. Yeah. So um

1450
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:15,040
the road was not posted. We all know

1451
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,760
that it was not posted. However, um you

1452
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,680
know, we did some research myself

1453
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,079
calling the county who owns Kings Road

1454
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:23,200
on the other side of the bridge and the

1455
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,720
town of Roderdam who owns Highbridgeidge

1456
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,520
Road on the other side of the bridge and

1457
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,839
they have it signed on their side for 8

1458
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,079
tons. I believe the article I saw some

1459
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,599
article the names and I didn't recognize

1460
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:34,720
the names in the article that was

1461
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,240
forwarded about it. So, I believe they

1462
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,559
were either county or town people. But

1463
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:41,040
regardless, looking at it, um it does

1464
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,160
make sense for me to recommend that we

1465
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400
uh post Kings Road with an 8 ton limit

1466
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,040
to say local traffic only because if we

1467
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,040
were to not have that and direct the

1468
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,440
vehicle down King's Road, when they get

1469
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,359
into Roderdam, there's literally nowhere

1470
01:02:55,359 --> 01:02:57,680
for them to go because their roads are

1471
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,079
posted the second you get into the into

1472
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:01,520
Roderdam. You can't use Highbridgeidge

1473
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,760
or you technically can't use Kings. So,

1474
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,240
if we post uh at Albany Street, Kings

1475
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,799
Road, 8 ton weight limit, local traffic

1476
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:11,359
only, um that would make us kind of in

1477
01:03:11,359 --> 01:03:12,559
cooperation with our neighboring

1478
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:15,829
municipalities.

1479
01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:18,960
Question. Yes. Um I just was wondering

1480
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,680
uh based on the discussion at the um I

1481
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,640
think it was at the neighborhood

1482
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,319
association that company that um Badger.

1483
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:30,000
Yeah. Um so with the eight tons um no

1484
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,079
they would be able to that would be they

1485
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:35,680
would be able to Okay.

1486
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,720
Any other questions? Yes. Madam

1487
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,119
President just and for the city engineer

1488
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,200
this require a public hearing. We're

1489
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,280
going to have to amend the the table of

1490
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,190
uh

1491
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,760
of weight limit roads just like oneway

1492
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,240
roads weight limit roads are in the

1493
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,480
ordinance. So do we do that here? Can we

1494
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,760
change this to a call for public

1495
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,160
hearing? Yeah, we can do that tonight

1496
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,319
and call public hearing for the you know

1497
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:07,280
for two weeks out and uh maybe um then

1498
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,119
at some after the public hearing then

1499
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:11,520
there'll be ordinance change that

1500
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,559
portion of the road. Um what portion my

1501
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:16,559
followup questions what what portion of

1502
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:18,480
uh of the road from where to where?

1503
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,640
Yeah. So it would be from Albany Street

1504
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,599
to city limit.

1505
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,480
Okay. Thank you. the entire ones. Yes,

1506
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,240
ma'am.

1507
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,960
Any other questions or

1508
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,000
concerns? Right. So, at this point in

1509
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,200
time, I'm going to call for a public

1510
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,400
hearing to change this. So, second.

1511
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,000
All's in favor. Thank you. Uh item

1512
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,799
number three is just a reminder of this

1513
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:44,240
public hearing for the redirection of a

1514
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,400
portion of Pricore Avenue from a two-way

1515
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,760
street to a one-way street from the

1516
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,240
intersection of Crane and Crane and Main

1517
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Street to Strander Place. and the public

1518
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,440
hearing will be happening on June

1519
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,119
9th. Okay.

1520
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:04,079
Um the item number four was to reassess

1521
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,920
year round alternate street side of

1522
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,799
street parking policy. Mr. Farley. Thank

1523
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:10,079
you, Madam President. So, I've been

1524
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,160
hearing a lot, I'm sure, um you guys

1525
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,440
have have often um

1526
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,960
uh people have been reaching out talking

1527
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,680
about

1528
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
their why they have to change um their

1529
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,119
side of the street when they're parking

1530
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:24,880
from this time to this time. I know some

1531
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,480
people are working like overnight shifts

1532
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,799
when they get out of work. They're they

1533
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:31,599
get home at this hour and then, you

1534
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:32,960
know, they're going to bed, but then

1535
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,720
they'd have to get up an hour or two

1536
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,960
later to switch sides. And I was, you

1537
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,880
know, my initial thought was, you know,

1538
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,520
the alternative side parking. Um, I was

1539
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,960
thinking that the primary function of

1540
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,119
that would be for like winter when we're

1541
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:48,799
trying to clear streets and things of

1542
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:51,440
that nature. Um, so I was wondering um I

1543
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:52,880
don't know if when's the last time we

1544
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,400
looked at that as a city. So, I kind of

1545
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,160
wanted to just look at that and have a

1546
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,599
discussion around like is that something

1547
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:00,240
that we need to uh maybe reassess to say

1548
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,160
like maybe this only happens during the

1549
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,480
winter months unless there's other um

1550
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,319
functions of it that we need to keep in

1551
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:08,319
place for all year round. So, that was

1552
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:10,640
just my thought. That's right. Um so, I

1553
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,799
know that Mr. Mr. Wallen and the police

1554
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:16,480
department are here as well to to

1555
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:23,190
come on up.

1556
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,960
I'm short enough so I don't have

1557
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,200
to There we go.

1558
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,760
Um hello. So, uh as you guys probably

1559
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,119
know, I worked in the traffic division

1560
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,760
part of the promotion. Um and so there's

1561
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,200
actually a lot of important reasons that

1562
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,359
alternate side parking exists out

1563
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,880
outside of um office of general

1564
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,640
services. Yes. Uh trash collection makes

1565
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,880
it more convenient. Um street sweeping

1566
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,039
obviously is another benefit. Um really

1567
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:50,799
when we look at it alternate side

1568
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:52,319
parking there's a variety of reasons

1569
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:55,680
that that the police sort of use that to

1570
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,400
our advantage. Um one of one of it

1571
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,079
believe it or not is there's a potential

1572
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,119
for for crash reduction for sure. Um

1573
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:07,119
that uh when the um parking enforcement

1574
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,319
is is uh we're adhering to way the

1575
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,079
signage we can actually reduce crashes.

1576
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,200
So we know that unconditionally. Um the

1577
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,839
other thing is for emergency services uh

1578
01:07:17,839 --> 01:07:21,599
fire trucks especially it's probably

1579
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,440
very very difficult if not possible to

1580
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,839
get an maybe two apparatus through or an

1581
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:29,280
apparatus in a police car. Um the other

1582
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,039
thing is that that when we go out there

1583
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:32,400
and the parking enforcement goes out

1584
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,240
there, not just the parking enforcement,

1585
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,799
but when the patrol officers are

1586
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:40,319
ticketing uh in the overnight hours, um

1587
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:42,799
it actually there's a benefit actually

1588
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,400
in reduction crime, if you can believe

1589
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,319
that. uh it's sort of this broken

1590
01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:47,839
windows theory that that we kind of

1591
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:51,440
adopt where if if we look at the small

1592
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,280
things and the public takes note of

1593
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,480
these small things that we're looking

1594
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,240
at, they're less inclined to commit

1595
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,920
bigger infractions. Um so there's a lot

1596
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,760
of different uh there's a lot of

1597
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,680
different things that that uh go into

1598
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,520
parking other than just parking. Uh let

1599
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,750
me see some other

1600
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,520
things. Yeah, just improves traffic

1601
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,679
flow. Uh we also have um if it were both

1602
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:20,480
side parking uh there's a likelihood of

1603
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:23,759
increasing pedestrian uh crashes. The

1604
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:25,920
trouble is especially for the youth

1605
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,759
they're small and by the time they get

1606
01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:30,640
beyond the beyond the car that's that's

1607
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,080
um already there. They're already into

1608
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,759
the traffic anyways and and perhaps

1609
01:08:34,759 --> 01:08:37,600
um you know a crash may occur that way.

1610
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,520
So uh that's just the perspective from

1611
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,440
the police department. Yep.

1612
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:43,679
I just want to just clarify that um the

1613
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:46,080
ask is not to create two-sided parking.

1614
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,560
That's the ask is um does one side park

1615
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,400
alternate parking still make sense in

1616
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,759
the way that it's done this side for

1617
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:56,000
these hours versus this and then moving

1618
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,920
over there for the other for the

1619
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,319
different hours. That that is the the

1620
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,960
real discussion here. Um so I just

1621
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,960
wanted to clarify that talked about

1622
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,880
emergency vehicles and all that. That's

1623
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,199
the ask is not can we make this two

1624
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:11,279
parking on both sides. Okay. All right.

1625
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:14,799
So, yeah. So, what Oh, excuse me.

1626
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:16,560
I was just wondering um given some of

1627
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880
the considerations and knowing what it's

1628
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,880
like to drive down streets where there

1629
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,480
is no alternate side of the street

1630
01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:24,880
parking whether we should be considering

1631
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,040
increasing um alternate side of the

1632
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,440
street parking in the city. Is that has

1633
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:31,759
that ever been come up at all? Well, I

1634
01:09:31,759 --> 01:09:33,600
know it's very difficult to drive on the

1635
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,239
streets where

1636
01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:37,600
um you know there's parking on both

1637
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,359
sides on many of the streets that are

1638
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:42,159
narrow. Um you know, it's a super

1639
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,920
interesting question. Chief Clifford and

1640
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,839
I spoke about it really if we wanted to

1641
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:47,679
get a deep dive into it. I think uh I

1642
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:49,520
think anal, you know, analysis of

1643
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,759
parking in general would be a good idea.

1644
01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:54,320
Um, you know, but it's funny as I'm

1645
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,840
going through this job and and you

1646
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,600
learn, you know, I have great ideas that

1647
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,520
my forefathers employed, but for a

1648
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,000
reason, right? And and so if we look at

1649
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,840
parking around the boulevards, Glenwood

1650
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,719
Parkwood, I think it's 2-hour parking.

1651
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:10,960
Um, and the reason was, at least as I

1652
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,000
understand it, is is is it gave

1653
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,600
residents a chance to park, but even

1654
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,679
more importantly, I think it prohibited

1655
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,360
uh the staff from Ellis Hospital, the

1656
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,920
school districts from parking there for an extended period of time. So,

1657
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,840
that's why I'm very cautious about

1658
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,440
making any concessions towards the

1659
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,760
parking. I just I don't know if we we

1660
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,360
don't know. We don't know, right? And I

1661
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,840
just I I wouldn't want to make a I want

1662
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,679
to say knee-jerk reaction, but a

1663
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:37,120
reaction that we don't fully understand

1664
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,400
the implications of um right off the

1665
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,280
bat. Um the other thing about the

1666
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,360
alternate side parking is that it gives

1667
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,920
us an opportunity to sort of identify

1668
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,520
vehicles that have been there for long

1669
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,760
term.

1670
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,719
Um I suspect that they had they could

1671
01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:56,960
potentially abuse the uh on street

1672
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,960
parking if it wasn't alternate signs. In

1673
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,560
other words, they can park their vehicle

1674
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,080
there and leave it there for extended

1675
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,239
periods of time and you know you sort of

1676
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:05,840
have these abandoned vehicles that

1677
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,080
potentially, you know, could be a

1678
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,159
problem especially in the winter. Uh so

1679
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,080
but the alternate side alleviates that

1680
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,560
for us now because

1681
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,600
obviously it sticks out like a sore

1682
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,480
thumb you it 2 days later if it's still

1683
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:20,960
there you know you can you can enforce

1684
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,560
the abandoned vehicle. We're not trying

1685
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,920
to do it alternate. It's not trying to

1686
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,440
do away with it. Just trying to see if

1687
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,159
the way it's being done now makes sense.

1688
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:29,920
the timing of it. So, not trying to say

1689
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,880
because you mentioned the street

1690
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,120
cleaners that that's important when they

1691
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,640
come that that they're able to get

1692
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:35,840
through. You mentioned the garbage

1693
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,640
trucks. So, not trying to say let's do

1694
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,239
away with it because that would that

1695
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:41,679
would cause a problem vehicles that stay

1696
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:43,600
there forever, but just trying to say

1697
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,040
does the timing of when people have to

1698
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,120
move their vehicles still make sense in

1699
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,360
the the way it is? And I guess one my

1700
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,679
question I'll get to you Mr. Carly uh is

1701
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:53,400
when is the last time that we did

1702
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,480
reassess the the timing of it? Now, this

1703
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,320
is what my understanding of it is that

1704
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,159
part of how we determined the alternate

1705
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:01,679
parking when General Electric was a

1706
01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:04,239
major employer in the city of Skenctity

1707
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,719
and the shifts that people worked, you

1708
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:10,560
know, dictated, you know, when they came and went in terms of parking.

1709
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,480
That's, you know, anecdotally that's

1710
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:13,679
what I was told. I don't know how they

1711
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,040
came, but that's where they came to, but

1712
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,880
that was part of my understanding. Mr.

1713
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,000
Farley. Yeah. Thank you, Madam

1714
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:23,120
President. You did hit on on some of the points that I wanted to raise. I

1715
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,360
think so to your point, sometimes we

1716
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,520
don't know the wisdom and why decisions

1717
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,840
are made until we kind of like start to

1718
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,520
look into them. So that's kind of like

1719
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,520
what the point is here. I also know

1720
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,640
sometimes um we sometimes we do things

1721
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,920
cuz that's just how they always been

1722
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,840
done. And sometimes that can, you know,

1723
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,400
stifle innovation and and and even

1724
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,000
create, you know, problems that we're

1725
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,360
not recognizing that we'll be to

1726
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,440
alleviate if we if we kind of look took

1727
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:50,719
a closer look at things. So again, the

1728
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:53,920
point as far as like the safety point um

1729
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,400
that that you that you bring up um and a

1730
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,719
couple of some of the other reasons

1731
01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:02,080
right now cars are parking on either

1732
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,159
side e they're parking on either side of

1733
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:05,520
the street. So on this street they're

1734
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,120
either parking on this side or they're

1735
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,679
parking on that side. And so to kind of

1736
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:11,520
echo what President Porter was saying,

1737
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,800
this isn't about like saying like now

1738
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,159
you can park on both sides cuz there's

1739
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:15,520
so many streets that you just can't do

1740
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,760
it on. It would just say like you

1741
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,640
wouldn't have to move your car um when

1742
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,800
you get off work Monday night, you don't

1743
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,600
have to uh when you know coming Monday

1744
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:26,640
morning from work, you don't have to get

1745
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,480
up and then move your car an hour later

1746
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,400
to the other side of the street. Like is

1747
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,120
there another way to do that? So you

1748
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,800
wouldn't prevent you know uh safety

1749
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,400
vehicles from making their way through.

1750
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,400
But it's just the alternative the

1751
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,960
alternate parking place and then is are

1752
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,920
we doing it at the right time? Do we

1753
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,960
need to kind of get some more

1754
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,480
information from people in the community

1755
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:50,000
as far as what they would like to see

1756
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,600
happen or like that's what we're trying

1757
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,760
to get. Yeah, I I get it. You know, and

1758
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,920
those are I don't know that I would have

1759
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,520
that information again without a study.

1760
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,199
I think we can speak kind of

1761
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:00,800
anecdotally, but you know, it is an

1762
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,960
interesting time because since co,

1763
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,239
right, a lot of folks aren't going to

1764
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:05,920
work anymore. So, I don't know should

1765
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:11,760
say going to work, but they're working. So, um yeah, I don't know. You

1766
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,440
know, I guess I'd like to add that. You

1767
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,120
know, I think about G was in full swing.

1768
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,120
We have 40,000 employees. I think the

1769
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,000
city population close to 100,000, right?

1770
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,120
We're around 70,000 now. I believe we

1771
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,880
can make it work, right? So, um I that's

1772
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,719
my two cents.

1773
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:31,199
Um did you want to speak to it all at

1774
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:36,910
all? I mean on the OS

1775
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,520
side a little um in the alternate side

1776
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,560
parking um we do get to schedule our

1777
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,280
street sweepers alter catch basins on

1778
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,679
one side of the road vehicles never move

1779
01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:49,520
everything gets trapped there trash gets

1780
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,199
there the leaves get there we can't get

1781
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:53,040
in there a sweep until there's a

1782
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,719
complaint that well the catch basins

1783
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,360
aren't taking the storm water no longer

1784
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,199
have a hold or posted to move your car

1785
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,040
so you can sweep so what we do is we

1786
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,040
plan sweeping based on alternate side

1787
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,280
parking. One one day we're doing it, the

1788
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,719
other they were doing it a different

1789
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,840
way. Um so there is an advantage. We do

1790
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,280
schedule work cuz we know the streets

1791
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,320
that are alternate. So if we're going to

1792
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,719
do curve work for pothole work, we know

1793
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:16,400
we can go down this street and do the

1794
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,239
right side today. Um and we do the left

1795
01:15:19,239 --> 01:15:21,840
side. If it's always one side, then we

1796
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,520
got to have resources go out and post

1797
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,840
that street and have everybody move. And

1798
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,360
hopefully some don't move over and the

1799
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,040
other ones stay in one place because now

1800
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,880
you're trying to get to buy two cars.

1801
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,400
So, there are some advantages when we're

1802
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,679
looking at how we're doing our

1803
01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:35,760
maintenance on our streets um with

1804
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,440
regards to street sweeping or repairs or

1805
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,080
curb work or even tree work. Um we know

1806
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,280
the streets that we can go in and do

1807
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,960
some work on because nobody's on our

1808
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,280
side and and again the exception would

1809
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,960
be winter where, you know, there should

1810
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,719
be open parking all time, you know, from

1811
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:53,360
November 15th to April 1st because it

1812
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,960
just makes our work easier to be able to

1813
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:00,400
do parking. So, you know, again, we're

1814
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,920
not trying to do away with that. Just

1815
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,000
trying to figure out if the timing

1816
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,320
works.

1817
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,679
Trying to accommodate people's work

1818
01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:09,120
schedules and that's different for

1819
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,400
everybody. So, you know, not not and not

1820
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,880
necessarily just like individual's work

1821
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,320
schedule. Obviously, we couldn't do

1822
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:17,920
that. It it's just one of those things

1823
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,040
that when people are bringing to the

1824
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,320
council saying like like this, you know,

1825
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,679
this doesn't make sense. So, my question

1826
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:23,760
then goes, okay, well, is there a better

1827
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000
way to do it? you know like in in in a

1828
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,239
better time the data. Yeah. Is there a

1829
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,320
better time? Is there a better pretty

1830
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,000
much a better time to move it? Is is

1831
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,280
there a a different uh mechanism we use

1832
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,719
to decide on what side people are on on

1833
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:41,199
what side or is it currently isn't it

1834
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:44,960
9:00 a.m. I think 9 a.m. I think it's

1835
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,199
Yeah. probably coming back you know when

1836
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,199
our forefather was doing it. We started

1837
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:51,920
working around 7:30. So 9:00 a.m. crews

1838
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,560
were out working. Um, you know, so you

1839
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,360
know, that side of the street was

1840
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,040
vacant. You know, if you did it at I

1841
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,080
mean there's always one side of the

1842
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,840
street or the other might be open, but

1843
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,840
on the OS side, that's what we look at,

1844
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,120
you know, street sweeping, different

1845
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,360
things like that. So with other study,

1846
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,600
we say what's the best time of day to do

1847
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,120
it, you know, is it at night? Is it

1848
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,350
noon? I don't know.

1849
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,360
So what would it take to re-evaluate

1850
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:30,790
study?

1851
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,760
So Mr. Wallen, could you give us a

1852
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,239
little bit of insight into that? What it

1853
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:38,960
would take for us to try to to reassess

1854
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,080
this? Hire another engineer.

1855
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,679
So could you come up? So um outside of

1856
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:47,440
hiring another engineer I know that

1857
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:49,280
sometimes you use consultants to do this

1858
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,199
work. The consultants are managed by

1859
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:52,640
myself and myself does not have enough

1860
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,360
time to do this. Mhm. So do we have

1861
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,120
another alternative? This is just

1862
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,880
another request made by the council that

1863
01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,800
I

1864
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,080
just do. We have a list of these

1865
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,600
requests that I can like this is just

1866
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,920
adding up a lot of requests. Hold on.

1867
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,080
Mr. W. Let's let me be very

1868
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,719
clear. This is not just another thing

1869
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,040
that the council's adding on. What we're

1870
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,239
doing is is is listening to what people

1871
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:17,600
are saying to us and being responsive

1872
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,040
and we're asking the question. The

1873
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,560
answer might hold on please for a

1874
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,560
second. The answer might be hey this

1875
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,320
doesn't work for the reasons that you're

1876
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,480
saying or the answer might be oh wow we

1877
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:27,679
didn't think about it like that. Maybe

1878
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:30,000
this work but it is our job to ask these

1879
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,520
questions. So I just don't I appreciate

1880
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,960
your frustration. You know, I'm a very

1881
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,480
big fan of the work you do, but I

1882
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:36,239
wouldn't want you to characterize me

1883
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:37,600
bringing this up as something just

1884
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,440
another thing from the council. I don't

1885
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:43,030
think that's fair.

1886
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,640
So, um Oh, okay.

1887
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,800
Oh, mayor. Okay. Why don't you just take

1888
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,719
the individuals who've contacted you,

1889
01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:53,920
forward that to Chief Noiki. You can do

1890
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,000
the initial

1891
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,280
evaluation and see if there is some

1892
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,920
scenario that

1893
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,239
would compensate for what their

1894
01:19:03,239 --> 01:19:07,280
uh awkwardness is, the inefficiency

1895
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,239
uh the timing of it. Yeah, I definitely

1896
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:14,600
could do so and start that is the and he

1897
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,080
can you know usually what prompts this

1898
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,480
also is not the timing, it's when

1899
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:24,040
somebody gets a ticket.

1900
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,679
And

1901
01:19:26,679 --> 01:19:29,280
so the reality is there's a little bit

1902
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,040
of soft enforcement at first hour, hour

1903
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,000
and a half and usually the enforcement

1904
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,640
doesn't take place till the time is

1905
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,679
clearly changed or the cars are creating

1906
01:19:42,679 --> 01:19:46,159
a hazard. the street becomes too narrow

1907
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,159
and they haven't moved back and forth or

1908
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:50,719
you get blocked, excuse me, black

1909
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:52,480
driveways that are too close to a fire

1910
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:55,600
hydrant or something else. So, mayor,

1911
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,679
should he say the names of the

1912
01:19:57,679 --> 01:19:59,880
individuals or the streets that are

1913
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,880
involved as opposed to an individual?

1914
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,360
Well, the

1915
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,120
individual, do they need it? Do they

1916
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,120
want it changed an extra hour? Do they

1917
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,520
want it a certain day of the week?

1918
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,520
uh you know it's just without dealing

1919
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,210
with the specifics it's hard to

1920
01:20:16,210 --> 01:20:17,800
[Music]

1921
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,480
say how it is and you get when you do

1922
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:23,440
the alternate side parking too the use

1923
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:26,880
of the side of the street that has fire

1924
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,440
hydrants on

1925
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:33,120
it creates more angst when parking's on

1926
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,880
that side because there aren't as many

1927
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,719
parking spots on that side and so people

1928
01:20:37,719 --> 01:20:40,080
park they're happier on the other side

1929
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,000
and when you move it to the side with

1930
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,719
the fire

1931
01:20:43,719 --> 01:20:46,239
hydrants. Somebody doesn't have a space

1932
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:49,960
to park. And when the city had 100,000

1933
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,840
people, some of the modes of

1934
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,719
transportation were still by

1935
01:20:53,719 --> 01:20:56,719
horse. And so we didn't quite have as

1936
01:20:56,719 --> 01:20:59,480
many cars. And so

1937
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,640
the whole dynamic has shifted. We've got

1938
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,400
less people, but we have a lot more

1939
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,120
cars. We sure do. M. It was I'm sorry.

1940
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,040
It was Mr. Williams, Miss Patrick, Mr.

1941
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,920
Toro. and we'll come back to you. So go

1942
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,320
ahead, Mr. Williams. So definitely I

1943
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,679
think our next step is the parking

1944
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:17,360
analysis. I hear and I had the

1945
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,040
opportunity to shadow Mr. Wallen

1946
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,719
definitely raised another question of

1947
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:23,280
staffing levels in the city. Truly if

1948
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,040
there are struggles with maintaining

1949
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,400
what is adding on has an impact and I

1950
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,760
can respectfully hear everything you

1951
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,280
said and I appreciate Mr. Farley for

1952
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,000
adding his context. Um I do want to add

1953
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,080
that a part of it is just being

1954
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,679
responsive to the driver's concerns.

1955
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:39,600
additional impacts that I've heard is

1956
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,840
how does parking read out in reality to

1957
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,560
members of our community where people

1958
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,120
are taking public spaces and saying this

1959
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,400
is mine we cannot park in front of our

1960
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,159
house and you can't make that claim on

1961
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:52,639
public road so as we are dealing with

1962
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:55,280
all these questions and comments uh I I

1963
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,560
do think it is our requirement to be

1964
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,400
responsive how we respond to that is

1965
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,280
important um and sincerely Mr.

1966
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,040
I don't I don't think justifying the

1967
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,719
street sweeping and the potholes is a

1968
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:06,080
strong argument just because there are

1969
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,760
people like I move my car every week

1970
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,920
potholes still there and that is a

1971
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,000
anecdotal comment but sincerely I think

1972
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,920
we need to take into consideration its

1973
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,199
impacts in 2025 and how that looks like

1974
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:19,040
I don't know it's a conversation um but

1975
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,320
I think we do have to start with this

1976
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,800
discussion Patrick I I think I just want

1977
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,880
to reply to that I think that we really

1978
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,560
have to take into consideration the

1979
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,719
street sweeping the garbage etc I Those

1980
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,480
things are really important as as well

1981
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:35,880
as the public safety pieces.

1982
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,920
So I you know I think it's important to

1983
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,400
Oh without doubt. So so I just want to

1984
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,639
be clear Mr. Leon that street sweeping

1985
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:47,280
is based on the alternate parking. Well

1986
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,120
we know what these we can go on that

1987
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,719
street and do that side of the road or

1988
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:52,560
not do that side of the road. Correct.

1989
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,800
after storms right after right after a

1990
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,760
storm um to clear catch basins we'll

1991
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,239
know if you know street X we can do the

1992
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:01,840
right side the catch basins are on that

1993
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,679
side some streets only have catch bas on

1994
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:06,000
one side sometimes on both so it does

1995
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,639
work to our families sometimes okay and

1996
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:11,520
so um in terms of the street sweep it

1997
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,560
doesn't have anything to do with the

1998
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,080
garbage collection schedule then no

1999
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,440
street sweepers as is a separate

2000
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,400
schedule okay thank you

2001
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,000
I think the bigger issue is the amount

2002
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,120
of as the mayor said the amount of uh

2003
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,920
limited parking and the amount of um as

2004
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,480
I I've said plenty of times the skinnity

2005
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:30,560
2 family which is now the skinnity 4

2006
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,760
plus family. Um so at time you know

2007
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,159
years ago you know each family may have

2008
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:38,000
had one car so you're talking about two

2009
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,000
cars on the street. Now you're talking

2010
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,719
about one one unit that has four units

2011
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:44,639
in it and everybody's got a car and

2012
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:46,239
maybe their kids. and others. I mean,

2013
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:48,719
there's just I don't believe enough

2014
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:51,920
parking on our roadways for the amount

2015
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,679
of cars and the amount of people living

2016
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:55,840
on their street. Um, I live on Wendell

2017
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,679
Avenue. There's no parking on my side of

2018
01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:01,280
the street between Union Street and

2019
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,120
Union Avenue, and it's a constant battle

2020
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,520
for um placement of individuals. So

2021
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,520
again, I you know, whether it's uh

2022
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,199
alternate parking or not, there's just

2023
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:14,719
not enough room for people to park

2024
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:17,280
anymore on any street. So, especially in

2025
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,800
our neighborhoods. And as far as

2026
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,840
alternate sides, yeah, we get a couple

2027
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,520
of complaints here and there. We have to

2028
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,679
get up and move our car. Um but most of

2029
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:28,480
the time the what I hear is, uh I like

2030
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:29,760
when it's on my side of the street

2031
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,280
because then I go shopping and it's in

2032
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,360
front of my house versus, you know,

2033
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:34,800
other side of the street I have to worry

2034
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,800
about crossing the street to my house.

2035
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,800
So, um, again, I think there's just a

2036
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,040
lot of cars in our city now, which is a

2037
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,120
good thing.

2038
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,159
It's back. We have lots of cars. Y,

2039
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:51,280
that's true. Um, so,

2040
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,960
if I may, I just like to add just one

2041
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,639
bit of information for you guys. Sure.

2042
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:56,159
So, I know you guys get tons of

2043
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:57,280
complaints. I know I've spoke to you

2044
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,040
about sort of parking complaints that

2045
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,880
come with increased enforcement, but

2046
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,800
what we probably don't hear about, you

2047
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,560
know, I get calls all day every day with

2048
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,560
the traffic division and we actually get

2049
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,639
a lot of calls people saying, "Thank you

2050
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:10,800
for finally doing this. Thank you for

2051
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,560
being here." And they're actually

2052
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,159
appreciating that we're enforcing it in

2053
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:17,440
the alternate uh side parking and the

2054
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:20,159
hours and I haven't asked them, but it's

2055
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,239
a benefit to them in some way enough

2056
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:23,600
that they actually call us and say thank

2057
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,590
you. So that's useful information.

2058
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,600
First, I'd like to say honestly, Officer

2059
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,440
Dolan and I never disagreed in parking

2060
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:35,440
ever. That's never a good thing. Um, so

2061
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,520
that's that's a good thing. But to the

2062
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,560
mayor's point around like um, you know,

2063
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,679
at one time, you know, we were there

2064
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:46,159
were more horses than there were cars.

2065
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,400
In this and that's in the spirit of what

2066
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,280
this conversation is being brought up is

2067
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,800
that we look at our city code. some of

2068
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,120
those things are outdated so much I

2069
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,320
think that they probably were when we

2070
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,080
did have horses. And I think that what

2071
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,199
we want to do is again is to look at

2072
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:04,960
what we have um is it working and not be

2073
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,880
afraid to say could it be working more

2074
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,280
effective you know um and just not be so

2075
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,960
committed to things just because the way

2076
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,880
and we often might find that there's a

2077
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,719
lot of good reasons and and there's a

2078
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:16,719
lot of wisdom into how decisions were

2079
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:19,040
made in the past but to the mayor's

2080
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,120
point and in and mine is that as things

2081
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,440
change we do need to revisit these

2082
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:24,639
things to ensure that we're being

2083
01:26:24,639 --> 01:26:26,400
responsible and maybe having the best

2084
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:27,520
for that's what the point of the

2085
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,320
conversation is. So I'm thinking um uh

2086
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,679
you know I welcome you know ideas around

2087
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:36,000
maybe we'd start with those with with

2088
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,320
the streets that people have been vocal

2089
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,560
about

2090
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,080
and get their feedback on that and go

2091
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,920
from there.

2092
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Um I think that's reasonable since um

2093
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,880
our city engineer said that doesn't have

2094
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,159
the capacity to do a citywide um

2095
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:55,120
reassessment. So just just to be clear

2096
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,280
though too, I think the easiest thing to

2097
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,800
do is I I think we're misunderstanding

2098
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,120
what a citywide asses is. It's a very

2099
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,280
large desk. You would go through the

2100
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,440
streets and I think uh you know Chief

2101
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,679
Wicki said it that the way that the

2102
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:09,920
streets are situated, right? The way

2103
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,320
that the parking is was mostly made by

2104
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,159
people around this table prior to us,

2105
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:16,080
our forefathers. Maybe it didn't make

2106
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,600
sense. Maybe it was done because someone

2107
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,080
got a ticket. So then when we hire a

2108
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,159
consultant to look at the map and try to

2109
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:24,080
make sense of it, they're going to have

2110
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,600
a lot of questions and they're going to

2111
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,199
wonder why any. So what they're going to

2112
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:28,400
look at, right, is they're going to look

2113
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,480
at all the streets in the city, 171

2114
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:31,840
miles. Then they're going to look at

2115
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,280
widths. Then they're going to look at

2116
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,719
the type of street. Then they're going

2117
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:36,639
to look at what's on the street. Is

2118
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:39,040
there a school? Is there a hospital? Is

2119
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,120
there something that takes up parking?

2120
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,199
So I think that if the council would

2121
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:46,159
like to do that, I could get some costs

2122
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:48,400
for what this would cost. people are out

2123
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,480
there that do things like this and then

2124
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,120
you would put it in the budget because

2125
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,280
this is something that I don't know

2126
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,159
where I would, you know, pull 20, 30,

2127
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,840
40, $50,000 out of to study the citywide

2128
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,440
parking. I mean, they would have

2129
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:05,120
meetings with the police, we'd have

2130
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,400
meetings with the fire department, we'd

2131
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,040
have meetings with the mayor, OS, uh,

2132
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,960
you know, this isn't something that you

2133
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,480
just do. Now, to the mayor's point, if

2134
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:14,960
we're looking at two streets and that's

2135
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,880
all we want to focus on, then that's a

2136
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,400
completely different thing. But, uh,

2137
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,760
that was my frustration was to just say,

2138
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,120
you know, would be great right now is if

2139
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,840
Chris could do a parking

2140
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,360
study. You know, that that means that

2141
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,440
it's a big task. It's something that we

2142
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:30,719
have to do and it's something that I

2143
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:32,560
don't have in my budget to to do a

2144
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,199
citywide assessment of parking. So, and

2145
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,520
just to be you said 71 miles, but not

2146
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,040
every street in the city is alternate

2147
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,360
parking. So, it would be a little And I

2148
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,320
see, but that's where you're going to

2149
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:43,760
get into a little gray area, though. I

2150
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,199
mean, because are you really looking at

2151
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:48,000
only alternate side parking areas? Would

2152
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,840
you look at all the parking areas? I

2153
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,040
would think that you want to look at all

2154
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,199
parking areas because, you know, what we

2155
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:54,639
just heard was it would be better if

2156
01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:56,480
some streets were alternate side parking

2157
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:58,320
that are one side parking cuz it would

2158
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,239
be more beneficial. So once again, if

2159
01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:02,000
you're focused and you just want to say

2160
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,520
those streets, but I think that those

2161
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,159
streets were most likely deemed

2162
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:09,159
alternate side parking for

2163
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:11,600
a political reason more than an

2164
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,880
engineering reason. So then we're

2165
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,920
singling out streets based off of

2166
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,679
non-engineering decisions. We're asking

2167
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:20,560
an engineer to make a justification on

2168
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,719
it. Engineers don't like things that

2169
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:24,000
don't make sense. I've talked about the

2170
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,760
weight limit map. The weight limit map

2171
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,920
makes no sense. that chart that we have

2172
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,480
in the city it makes no sense. So with

2173
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,080
me to look at it and then come to you

2174
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,159
and say why does his map there it you

2175
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:35,679
know it doesn't make any sense and the

2176
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:37,280
engineering predecessor said this was

2177
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,520
more of a complaints of trucks

2178
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,520
complaints of this. So we you know

2179
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,920
change things. So I would I would say if

2180
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,080
we're going to do it you you do it. uh

2181
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,159
you know 171 miles they don't all have

2182
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,480
all parking but we want to maybe focus

2183
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:52,719
on certain areas and do it more

2184
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:54,239
holistically because if you're going to

2185
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:55,760
do a parking study and not look at the

2186
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,719
area around Ellis hospital

2187
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:00,320
I don't you know I think that were the

2188
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,920
area around the high school or some of

2189
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,199
the other schools I think that would be

2190
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:04,920
a

2191
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,199
mistake if I just add one last thing too

2192
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:08,560
I think is important that we hear from

2193
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,679
those individuals because I think we

2194
01:30:11,679 --> 01:30:13,840
perhaps can do a better job of maybe

2195
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,840
either updating the signage report

2196
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,159
increasing the signage if it's one

2197
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:19,760
street in particular. I know one street

2198
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,440
there are signs out there that say no

2199
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:23,360
parking this side from 1:00 a.m. to 6:00

2200
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,000
a.m. If that's the problem and we're not

2201
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,880
street sweeping there and I'm not big

2202
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,639
rem, but if that's the case in point,

2203
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:31,920
it's a simple sign change and

2204
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,920
everybody's happy. So I guess to the

2205
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,159
point I'm trying to make is I I can feel

2206
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:37,920
these phone calls and I encourage them

2207
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,480
to call reach out or email me and tell

2208
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:42,159
me specifically what the street is and

2209
01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:46,560
what their concern is. you know, this may be an easy this may be an easy

2210
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,000
fix, I guess, is what I'm saying.

2211
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,360
Um, and I'd like to believe that

2212
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,360
decisions are made on engineering things

2213
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,239
and not politically, that we're doing it

2214
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:58,719
based on what's good enough.

2215
01:30:58,719 --> 01:30:59,840
Oh, that's right. We're not talking

2216
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,679
about us.

2217
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:05,920
Um, so as the mayor has stated that um

2218
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:06,840
and

2219
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,189
Sergeant, can you

2220
01:31:10,199 --> 01:31:12,320
say you got that promotion? I have to

2221
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,080
get that right. Has stated we should

2222
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,400
look at the streets cuz I I also have um

2223
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,199
you know, someone reach out to me um

2224
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,440
regarding where they live. So, you know,

2225
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:22,800
we can should look at those streets and

2226
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,239
start there. And I just want to really

2227
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:29,440
quickly say that I'm I'm not sorry. I'm

2228
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:30,960
sorry, Mr. T. Did you want to add

2229
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,120
something? No. Oh, okay. Good. So, what

2230
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,639
I was saying is that what I wanted to

2231
01:31:34,639 --> 01:31:36,480
say was that I'm not uh in any way

2232
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,560
suggesting that we change, you know,

2233
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,159
everything around for an individual

2234
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:42,000
person. I just want to be clear about

2235
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,400
that. But what we can if if we do look

2236
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,639
at the individual streets and there is a

2237
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:48,560
theme here that oh this works here, then

2238
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,159
it might be a practice that we look to

2239
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:55,040
move and expand. I think that that's a fair way to start. Okay. Thank

2240
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,600
you.

2241
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,440
So, at this point in time, and this is

2242
01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:01,280
for everyone, then if you're getting

2243
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,360
concerns from individuals regarding

2244
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,800
alternate um side parking, and I'm not

2245
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,280
whether it's being enforced or observed,

2246
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,199
I'm not really sure cuz I see signs.

2247
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:12,239
Sometimes I'm driving down the street

2248
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:14,080
and I see signs on both sides, but I

2249
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,560
also see cars on both sides. So, I'm

2250
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,000
like, okay, people aren't really

2251
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,679
observing that. And but there's still

2252
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:21,280
room to move forward. So, at this point

2253
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,960
in time, you would um provide to the

2254
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,520
mayor's office and to assistant chief

2255
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,440
miliki this brief that you're speaking

2256
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:29,600
about. And that that goes for everyone

2257
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,639
and I will do that as well. And um we'll

2258
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,080
take it from there. Is there more that

2259
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,840
you would like to see us move forward

2260
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,440
on, Mr. Farley? I think that that's a

2261
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:38,600
pretty good place to

2262
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,080
start just with the budget coming up.

2263
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,719
Would or would life like me to get what

2264
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:47,760
parking would cost?

2265
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,560
So that's ask question. I think the more

2266
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:51,920
information we have the better the more

2267
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,760
the cost but I don't know what the

2268
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,080
entails. So I think getting the cost

2269
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,520
would be great. Doesn't mean we have to

2270
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,199
do it.

2271
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:02,920
I just getting the cost would be

2272
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,199
contact engineers probably done this

2273
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:06,639
before and ask them what an approximate

2274
01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:08,480
cost would be just so I can have that

2275
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:11,840
for our budget time. Right. Including

2276
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,239
the concerns that were voiced by uh his

2277
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,480
farm. Chris and I will be in contact

2278
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:18,639
because what I'll do is as I if I don't

2279
01:33:18,639 --> 01:33:20,560
handle the calls myself traffic division

2280
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,480
but somehow keep a log or record of the

2281
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:29,600
concern. So it's not anecdotal. It's a time in place for it to Chris and

2282
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,080
we can work it. If after all this we

2283
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,159
only have a single concern. Not sure

2284
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:36,520
that you know it's worth proceeding but

2285
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,800
that my own.

2286
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,199
Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Well,

2287
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:45,199
thank you all for your input. Appreciate

2288
01:33:45,199 --> 01:33:48,560
you coming. Thank you.

2289
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,679
Uh the next item is the is a ceremonial

2290
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:53,360
resolution for Caribbean American

2291
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,040
Heritage Month. Mr. Mu. Thank you. June

2292
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,360
is recognized as a national Caribbean

2293
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,120
American Heritage Month. And I'm asking

2294
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,880
council once again to pass CR to

2295
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,920
recognize um the Caribbean American

2296
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,800
community.

2297
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,360
Oh, thank you.

2298
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,760
All in favor? All right, that was

2299
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,000
interesting. Um, I did one add one other

2300
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,480
thing to the agenda. I apologize, but um

2301
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,520
June 10th is coming up in June as well.

2302
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,639
And um so I'd like to for the council to

2303
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:31,760
um have a ceremonial resolution for

2304
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,400
observing Junth. So second all's in

2305
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,560
favor. Thank you very much for that. And

2306
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,800
I have nothing else to come for city

2307
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,560
development planning and I'll entertain

2308
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,040
a motion to adjourn. So move second. All

2309
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:58,110
in favor? I have a good evening

2310
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:02,230
everyone. Heat. Heat.

2311
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:32,359
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