1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:20,390 the mayor's coming. Yeah. So, 2 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,039 okay. 3 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:24,720 Um, Mr. Mudar is running a little late, 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,199 so M, uh, Council President Porterfield 5 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:29,119 asked me to, uh, call the meeting to 6 00:00:29,119 --> 00:00:30,800 order. So, I'd like to call finance to 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,200 order. Um, we have one item on this 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,880 evening's agenda and that is funding 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,200 support for Belmont Pop Warner program. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,440 U Mr. Fley, would you like to speak to 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,320 that? Certainly. Um, so over the last 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,840 few times together um Belmont uh Pop 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,879 Warner program um has came forth to ask 14 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:50,399 of some institutional support to 15 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:51,520 continue the good work that they're 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,199 doing in the community. And um we 17 00:00:55,199 --> 00:00:57,680 discussed it at length two separate 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,320 occasions. last time we uh got to a 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,000 point where there seemed to be some cons 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,600 consensus on the room that we wanted to 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,040 support Belmont. We were just waiting 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,760 for some information um to figure out 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,520 exactly how much money was identified in 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,400 the account and hopefully we'll get that 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,520 information be able to move this 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,870 forward. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Okay. So, who was going to get us that? 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Oh, um our finance commissioner was 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,640 going to get that information for you. 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Yes. Um, did did anyone else receive any 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,159 information from our finance 32 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:29,200 commissioner around what was left on 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,320 their account? No. Um, so I did I'm 34 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,320 sorry. 35 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:35,920 I'll let the finance commissioner speak 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,040 to you know directly they'll be back 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,079 directly. Is that what you said? 38 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:44,560 No, he said he let him speak to it 39 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,799 directly. Sorry. What was the question? 40 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:48,720 Well, so the question was weighing on 41 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,119 information around the account that was 42 00:01:51,119 --> 00:01:53,439 identified um and to see how much money 43 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:55,600 was left in that account before we 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,720 decided how we were going to move 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,040 forward. information. I mean, I gave the 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 child myself and um had some 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,439 conversations, but um I believe that the 48 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:08,239 account um has no money has been spent 49 00:02:08,239 --> 00:02:11,039 down account besides I think it's in the 50 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:13,560 area of $8,000 that are here marked for 51 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,879 um for uh some students to come to work 52 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:19,040 within city hall is my understanding. Is 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,319 that your understanding as well, Mr. 54 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:22,560 Mayor? Having trouble hearing you say 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Teresa, which county talk about the 56 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,640 youth employment? Yes. And so there was 57 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,760 $108,000 that uh we that we took that 58 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,360 from us back. So that's the account I'm 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:39,680 talking about. Yeah. So the other um mention was my 60 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,920 understanding what the last thing was 61 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:44,480 that there would be here for was in the 62 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 county left over from the 150,000 for 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,120 youth employment as well as 108. 64 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,840 150 65 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,360 is 99% 66 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:04,750 commit some 67 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,200 point just got kids in the high 68 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,959 school 69 00:03:09,959 --> 00:03:19,350 DC so it's going to be a robust 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,000 part so where are we Does anyone have 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,519 this information in terms of the funding 72 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:26,400 is available that number 8,000? I think 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,560 the finance commission 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,840 I think finance commissioner is he 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,599 coming? Are you pointing to him? No, I 76 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:35,280 was thinking maybe we should shut the 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,120 door but I mean thought all these people 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,280 were wanting to come to us. Yeah, I I'll 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,959 look out. 80 00:03:41,959 --> 00:03:45,280 Yeah. So, we asked for information there 81 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,120 if they're in Did you get any 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,239 information? I never was 83 00:03:49,239 --> 00:03:51,360 council. Did any of the council members 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,070 get 85 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,840 They're coming. They're coming into the 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:29,830 meeting. 87 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:31,680 Looks like Demani is actually going down 88 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,830 to his 89 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:37,950 office. 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:05:12,670 Excuse me. You can public 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:53,749 Oops. Not 92 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,000 Mr. Charlie, sorry. Sure. I was going to 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,160 just ask you. Yeah, I I went down I 94 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,720 didn't see our finance commissioner. Um, 95 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,400 however, 96 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,280 like I said, uh, based on that earlier 97 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,520 of Miss Carver that there is out of the 98 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,479 $108,000 that we're talking about, 99 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:12,080 there's only $8,000 that's been 100 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,319 earmarked for kids who work here in city 101 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:18,240 hall. So, I mean, I'm comfortable moving 102 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,400 forward with that information that I got 103 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,710 and moving that uh to a vote. 104 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Well, I think that has anybody spoken to 105 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,479 Cocoa House to find out um the money was 106 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:35,360 earmarked for co Coco House um and the 107 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,840 programs that they run for it's not 108 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,479 right no the 108 no it oh it was 109 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:42,319 earmarked 110 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:46,080 for for the city but Coco House um was 111 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,319 housing it 112 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,479 Coco house and then we were going to use 113 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:53,000 it for the 114 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Right. Okay. So, now we're not using it 115 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,909 for some reason. 116 00:07:00,919 --> 00:07:04,400 Well, you're saying it's 8,000. I'm 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,039 saying out of the 180,000 8,000 has been 118 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:09,240 committed in 119 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,360 ear roughly $100,000. 120 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,759 No, some of it was allocated to to uh 121 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:17,759 work with what Mr. M was doing in the 122 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,880 park. So, there was a money that was 123 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,919 allocated there. Um my understanding is 124 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:25,599 um that was about 8,000 then there was 125 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:28,960 another 9,800 that is also allocated. So 126 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,639 other money I know there was a budget 127 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:34,639 that was submitted however there's no 128 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:37,520 work that I understand that really get 129 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,990 done to hire young people. 130 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,319 So Mr. So yeah, so it seems that there 131 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,319 so we wouldn't be abandoned. This is 132 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,800 money that talked about during the 133 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,720 budget period. What I was saying and I 134 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 asked for the council, I said the first 135 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,599 money that we bring back from the Arbor 136 00:07:59,599 --> 00:08:01,280 should be going to our youth services 137 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,879 line. This is that pot of money and it's 138 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:07,160 in complete alignment with our youth 139 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:14,150 services that you see here. So I don't I 140 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,319 Well, I have to say that I still feel 141 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:19,599 very strongly that um I feel like that 142 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:21,919 we really need to be thinking about all 143 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:24,960 of these leagues. Um not just one partic 144 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,879 not just singling out one particular 145 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:28,800 league. We got another request since our 146 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,759 meeting last week from our youth hockey 147 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,640 um league. Uh also now that they're 148 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,159 feeling that the conversation has been 149 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,080 open that they also are asking for 150 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,000 money. Um, my guess is if other leagues 151 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 knew about that, they too would come 152 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,399 forward. I myself would like to see us 153 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:47,920 have a conversation with our parks 154 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,279 director and consider funding um con 155 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,279 consider whether we want to fund youth 156 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:57,040 sports as part of our 2026 budget. But 157 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,519 right now with this budget, I I just 158 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:01,760 feel like it's not really to me it's not 159 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,200 fair to be signaling out one one league 160 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,560 um in particular, Mr. Far. 161 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:10,399 So again, the way that you're framing 162 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:13,120 that is a little problematic for me. We 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 didn't single anyone out and any youth 164 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,440 program has the same opportunity to come 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 forth and request support the way that 166 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Belmont did. So we're not singling them 167 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,600 out. They're not getting any special 168 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,600 treatment or have any special access 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,519 that any other youth program does not 170 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,160 have in the city. What's concerning to 171 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,720 me is that now it's being framed that 172 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,480 way almost in a way to almost pit 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,560 programs against each other. And I don't 174 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:39,920 want to do that. I'm actually I'm not 175 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,360 going to I'm not going to be a part of 176 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,519 that. But what I will say is we have 177 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,399 funded our youth service line advocately 178 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:50,240 when I did everything but beg to do so 179 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,800 in order to fund this line so our kids 180 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,920 and the community can get what they 181 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,600 need. We wouldn't even be having this 182 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,519 conversation. But being that we failed 183 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:58,440 to act 184 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,360 then, I can't accept that as an excuse 185 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,080 to fail to act now. The money is there. 186 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Belmont has come 187 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:07,920 forward with a request. We need to 188 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,080 answer the request. And the thing is, we 189 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,920 cannot say we support youth and youth 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,600 programs. And then when someone does 191 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,519 what any other youth program could do, 192 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:17,680 then we say, well, I think everyone 193 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,120 should have an opportunity. They did 194 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,880 have an opportunity. And they do. And if 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,440 you take and if you and if you follow 196 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,000 what or or at least gave some serious 197 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,800 consideration to what I brought forth in 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,320 the beginning, we wouldn't be having 199 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,240 this conversation. And last time we were 200 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,959 at this table, I believe that there was 201 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:37,200 more there was an expression of support 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,519 for for this uh legislation to go 203 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,600 through and now I'm I'm I'm concerned 204 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,519 about where the hesitation is. I'm 205 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:45,680 sorry, Mr. Williams. I'll just say 206 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:47,440 there's also a grand difference between 207 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,200 this and what the hockey association was 208 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,640 looking at. I don't think has had a 209 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,560 chance to reach out to them, but it 210 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,880 appears that it's a county resource. Um, 211 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,519 and then I perceive that as them trying 212 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:59,279 to understand the increase in their ice 213 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:01,120 time. So, I didn't necessarily see that 214 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,279 as a funding request, but more of a can 215 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,760 you help us ensure what is the 216 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,360 additional ask of what will be normally 217 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,320 expended for speeding time due to having 218 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,200 college in transitioning arena. I've had a conversation part two with Miss 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,680 Porterfield where we designated use of 220 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:20,240 the ARP performance to the arena with 221 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,600 the specific understanding that there 222 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,680 would be a lot of community partnership. 223 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,279 So I think that is simply a conversation 224 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,279 that we can have but I saw those as two 225 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:29,600 separate asks. I will say up to this 226 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,000 point we have not heard other of the 227 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 youth programs that you're highlighting 228 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,040 which I would also like to point out to 229 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Mr. Farley's point. Um we have this 230 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,920 program in front of us. Um I am all for 231 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 proceeding uh with their full ask. Um I 232 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,000 think if we're going to transition to a 233 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,720 conversation of what is your 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,240 comfortability as the only other member 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,120 of the finance 236 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,440 committee, but I I didn't want to take 237 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,360 any of the talk of anyone, but sincerely 238 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 the program speak for itself. Uh I think 239 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,560 these kids deserve it. So, 240 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,120 see, I guess the difference is that and 241 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,160 I think that all of our teams um have 242 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 some measure of need, have some measure 243 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,480 of um a desire for support from us. Yes, 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,240 this is the only one that has except for 245 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,279 hockey now um that has come forward this 246 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:23,360 year. I think we've in the past had 247 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,200 requests from youth soccer which we have 248 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,959 denied. Um, I just feel 249 00:12:27,959 --> 00:12:30,959 that in the middle of our budget year is 250 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:32,839 not the time for us to be having this 251 00:12:32,839 --> 00:12:35,079 conversation. 252 00:12:35,079 --> 00:12:39,040 Um, Mr. So, we amend budgets and do and 253 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,040 make changes to what we initially scope 254 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,800 every time every every year since I've 255 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,639 been on the council. There's been some 256 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,760 sort of um 257 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,160 uh amendment, if you will, to how we're spending money. So, in the 258 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,639 thought of what future programs might 259 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:57,279 come forward, if we go by that 260 00:12:57,279 --> 00:12:59,920 reasoning, then any programs that we did 261 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:04,320 support um like with uh uh the money 262 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,320 over $300,000 to the fields for the 263 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Blues any we would just say, 264 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,560 well, let's wait to see who else comes 265 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:14,240 forward and then let's wait to see who 266 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,160 else comes forward. Belmont's here. 267 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,760 they've come forward and it's I mean 268 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,680 they quite 269 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:22,720 honestly either we're going to do what 270 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,320 we say and be who we say we are we're 271 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,600 not Mr. Williams and I would just say to 272 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,360 respond uh there are comments in the 273 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,120 paper talking about the responsibility 274 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,959 of the council I think it would be 275 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:35,519 irresponsible for us to not consider uh 276 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:38,800 this request and it is beyond 277 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,399 frustrating to hear that because their 278 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:42,079 problems don't align with how we review 279 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:43,360 our budget that we're not going to 280 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,440 consider their needs. I think this very 281 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,800 much speaks to a point that I've 282 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,680 singularly made of making sure city hall 283 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,079 is meeting people at their doorsteps. 284 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:53,680 Oftent times there's a connect between 285 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,360 people understanding how the city hall 286 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,279 functions and city hall understanding 287 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,360 how uh there may be some gaps to move 288 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,959 forward with addressing the needs of the 289 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:02,800 community. Uh so I think it is our 290 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,880 responsibility as advocates for them, 291 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,040 hear them out as they come forward to us 292 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,360 and in these types of considerations uh 293 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,519 make those concessions. I think on an 294 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:13,839 ongoing basis, yes, I can see the 295 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:15,920 confidence of continuing to make these 296 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,680 types of considerations mid budgetary 297 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,560 season, but to my point or to my tenure 298 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,399 on this, the first time I've heard of 299 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,880 such a request and sincerely, I think 300 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,360 that there is a bonafide need to respond 301 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,790 in time. 302 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,480 So, and in terms of the ARPA funds, 303 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,000 because that's it seems like what's 304 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,920 boiled down to all the other line has 305 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,120 been spent that's in the budget, but the 306 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,920 ARPA funds that were uh we left under 307 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,720 the um control of Cocoa House, but still 308 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 for youth employment and as has been 309 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,560 said, there's still money on that line 310 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,560 that's not been expended. I think that's 311 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,800 a place that we can look and to make 312 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 sure because we have a deadline with our 313 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,279 we're facing that deadline very quickly. 314 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:57,920 So, in my mind, using this money from 315 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 that line 316 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,920 And as I said to Mr. Farley, I don't 317 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 know we be able to fund it entirely, but 318 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,240 that is the consideration that's being 319 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,880 asked and that money is there right now. So I'm not sure why we 320 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,720 didn't get the numbers from the um 321 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,480 finance commissioner that was asked of 322 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,480 him or that no one has seems to have 323 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,600 today. But uh in having a conversation 324 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,839 with u Miss Carver the director of 325 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:24,079 development in terms of the ARPA funds 326 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:26,079 because she is in control of that there 327 00:15:26,079 --> 00:15:28,880 is funding there that cannot been 328 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,279 actually allocated to anything out of 329 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,120 that $108,000 330 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,680 in your conversation with Clint has been 331 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,120 allocated hasn't been focused 332 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,240 allocated to youth employment. Yes. So, 333 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,760 but no specific has been right for any 334 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,760 specific folk. That is my question 335 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,560 though. Um because we have it allocated 336 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,519 to youth employment and it's an awful 337 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:56,440 fund. Um, can 338 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,079 we change the designation? What do we 339 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:01,920 need to do to change a designation of an 340 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,000 ARPA funding? 341 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,120 We have to do a resolution that I mean 342 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,040 from what I'm hearing is the council 343 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,720 wishes to use that 344 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 funding and understanding that's grant 345 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,079 funding and not a gift. And as such, 346 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,320 Coco House would administer the grant as 347 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:27,350 the recipient of the grant that we gave them. 348 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,199 But the city still would have some as we 349 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:30,800 do the fall grants. It still has 350 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,230 something. 351 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,880 Yeah, we're Yes, we we get the money 352 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,710 from federal government. 353 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,480 They look at us to make sure it's 354 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,310 properly administered and our 355 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,519 subsal responsible for getting the grant 356 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:56,639 ated and also created a proper audit 357 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:59,360 trail for this kind of money and it's 358 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,000 not a gift at this point. No, I think 359 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,440 everyone understands it's not a gift and 360 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,000 that is a grant funded and the 361 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,199 individuals who uh work who run Pop One 362 00:17:09,199 --> 00:17:10,319 would have to make sure that we have all 363 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:11,600 the receipts and everything that's 364 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,520 needed to do that. I think that's I 365 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,590 think resolution indicate 366 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,959 that you 367 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:25,880 so number one I don't want to put 368 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,280 any extra stipulation 369 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,679 um with this program that we wouldn't do 370 00:17:31,679 --> 00:17:34,799 it with any with any other program. So I 371 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:36,320 think that we need to be consistent in 372 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,320 that way. Um the money is there. The 373 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,960 money uh is 374 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,240 available. The money will be going to a 375 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,160 program that has 376 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,640 survived I believe since the 70s in 377 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Skenctity with no true institutional 378 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,720 support but a huge impact on our 379 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 community. I'm struggling to see why 380 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,799 we're not moving towards at this point. 381 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,360 I really am. I think again I know that 382 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:04,480 you've mentioned that you don't want to 383 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,240 pit sport against sport, but I think all 384 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,039 of our teams have a huge impact on the 385 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,440 youth that they're serving. They do. So 386 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,160 I think that's argument I'm not really 387 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,039 accepting. And then also the fact well 388 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:22,559 that statement the other piece about the 389 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:24,640 fact that we fund that we spent money on 390 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,520 our fields. Again I'm going to reiterate 391 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 that we own those fields. It's our 392 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,720 responsibility as a city to be properly 393 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,880 maintaining our parks and our fields. 394 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,360 This is different as would be any of the 395 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:38,880 teams. I mean, we would be having to 396 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,240 make um a considerable change. I guess 397 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,840 I'm just saying I don't want to keep 398 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,520 hearing about the fields and the money 399 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,960 that we're spending on the fields 400 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,039 because they're city of Skenctity 401 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:54,240 fields. Uh we own them. Um we don't own 402 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,600 GMA poper. So I again I'm just going to 403 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 discount that as well. I don't know if 404 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,640 we can completely discount that because 405 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,120 um the way the fields were constructed 406 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,840 were specifically working with Blue Jays 407 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,760 I believe they're called. So those 408 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,520 fields were created and done in such a 409 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,080 way that was specific to them. Uh the 410 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,679 cricket fields are being specific to 411 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:16,799 cricket because that's what's played 412 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,880 there. And I can also point out the fact 413 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,200 that many of the members of Blue Jays 414 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,280 are a traveling team. So there's a 415 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,039 significant amount of players there that 416 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,520 aren't actually disconnected res yet. We 417 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,880 still did that. So I just want to make 418 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,880 sure that that is part of the framing 419 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,679 when we talk about I proud of that. I 420 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:35,600 think that young people should have the 421 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840 ability and the opportunity to be able 422 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,600 to play sports. It builds character. It 423 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,720 does all those things that we don't need 424 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,039 to continue to repeat. But I don't want 425 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:44,640 to say that we didn't do something 426 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,120 specific to the team when in fact we did 427 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,840 and we did to their specifications and 428 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,600 that's not a problem. That's what they 429 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,880 needed. Do they know what they need? Cuz 430 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,039 I don't play so well. Well, yeah. I 431 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:56,640 mean, I think it we probably turn to the 432 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,720 expert just like we turn to experts when 433 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,480 we are thinking about what we do with 434 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,480 our roads and our streets. I mean, we 435 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,559 don't have the knowledge to be able to 436 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,400 figure that out. We have to have 437 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,440 consultants and and the city engineer 438 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,840 looks to the partners that he has. Um, 439 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,160 but then he's making decisions. What I'm 440 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,080 trying to say, they they have input on 441 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,600 what it should look like. Okay. Mr. 442 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,320 So I think again when um you talk about 443 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,480 our those fields of belonging to the 444 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,120 city and it's our word you use is 445 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:31,120 responsibility. Um I also believe in 446 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:34,559 fact I know you can disagree that it's 447 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:37,559 our responsibility to provide 448 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:39,440 opportunities and access to 449 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,679 opportunities for our youth in the city. 450 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:43,600 It's our responsibility to make sure 451 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,360 that we are making the investments that 452 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,200 align with the pictures we take and the 453 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,000 things we say all the time. Now, here we 454 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,200 have a situation where we're able to do 455 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,039 that. We're able to meet the need of a 456 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:56,360 program that came 457 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,159 forward. When they came forward with 458 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:00,000 their ass, there was no other ask on the 459 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,440 table. 460 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,039 So for us to almost penalize them for 461 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:06,880 stepping up and saying, "Hey, our kids 462 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,440 in our community need some support here 463 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840 to me is just it it it's unfound." I 464 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,440 just I don't understand that. Mr. 465 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440 Williams. And I think all this needs to 466 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,440 be taken into context because just 467 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,360 challenging myself and my own biases 468 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:20,960 when we had the discussion about the 469 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,600 irrigation system with the golf course. 470 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240 I initially was opposed to it not based 471 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,440 on its need based on a lot of $3 million 472 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,679 funding to that singular project. I can 473 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:33,760 guarantee you everyone in this room does 474 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 not golf. That is not an assumption. 475 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,000 That is me just putting it out there. 476 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,720 Now I would say at at this standpoint 477 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,520 it's understanding how do we ensure that 478 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,679 under considerations if we look at it 479 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:48,240 statistically it is not close but 480 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,400 sincerely how do we look at the need and 481 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,600 addressing the the interest of everyone 482 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,960 of our community and we're not even 483 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,080 talking about equally we're talking 484 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000 about equitably and as of right now this 485 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,400 is the 486 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,400 request Mr. 487 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600 F not trying to put you on the spot here 488 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 but I heard from everybody except Mr. I 489 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,919 was trying to get your thoughts on this. 490 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:10,159 Well, I appreciate you bringing it 491 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:12,640 forward and hearing from everyone. I 492 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520 think this um kind of brings a larger 493 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,520 issue for us is looking at um our park 494 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,559 and Rex director and looking at how do 495 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:24,799 we make this as a long-term plan. We 496 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:27,919 have this asked now and my understanding 497 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,960 is we have that money. It's not 498 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,960 allocated the 108 499 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 now. It's not in Cumber. Okay. So, out 500 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,710 there allocated but not in Cumber. 501 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Um, where is it? How is it allocated? 502 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,559 Like what what's the projection for 503 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,280 that? There's a little over 504 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,720 108,000 to Cocoa House 505 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,110 and Cocoa House has 506 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,960 administered we just heard to Belmont 507 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,549 that 508 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:11,480 108,000 is located 509 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,760 to house. So my understanding is that 510 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,760 the request here is to take it from that 511 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,039 link. So yes, it would be administered 512 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:24,240 by Coco House. 513 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,120 Does Coco House have that capacity? I 514 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,000 can't speak to that, 515 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Miss. Well, when we allocated, we knew 516 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,159 that they had to have some of them. So 517 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:35,679 they have to because it was for youth 518 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:36,880 employment. So that was going to have to 519 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,240 be done. So in this case, excuse me. 520 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,679 what I'm understanding and looking at 521 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:45,559 the budget um some of it is purchasing 522 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,000 materials materials uniforms and that 523 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240 kind of thing. So that's like creating 524 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,919 invoices and again the city um 525 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:55,760 department of development would make 526 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,159 sure that they're doing it 527 00:23:57,159 --> 00:23:59,280 properly. So, we all have the budget 528 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,559 here. 529 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,159 Um, and they're all they're not for the 530 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:05,440 out of state things. They're not asking 531 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280 the additional 30, but it's uniforms, 532 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,440 it's cheer uniforms, it's insurance and 533 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,840 leave fees. So, it's really just getting 534 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,159 those invoices and making sure that 535 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:16,640 they're paying based on on the budget 536 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000 that they they've um presented to 537 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,880 us. Madam Chairman, um yes, 538 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,120 uh members of the committee have chimed 539 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,360 in on this and spoken to this. As of 540 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,520 right now, it's 141 against the 541 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,360 resolution would fail. Um, as of right 542 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,919 now, there's a rule under the city 543 00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:40,240 council rules where if you get a 544 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240 co-sponsor for a piece of legislation, 545 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 if you get a co-sponsor, you get two 546 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,600 people, two two council members, they 547 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,360 can bring it to the next council meeting 548 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,360 or subsequent council meeting. Um, also 549 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,600 the rules are that would require 550 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,559 unanimous consent. In other words, for 551 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,320 example, the resolution were to fail 552 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,799 tonight, you could ask for a co a 553 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,000 co-sponsor, then that piece of 554 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,760 legislation could be as placed on, you 555 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 know, unanimous consent because it 556 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:14,880 wasn't presented by the deadline last 557 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Thursday. So, it's unanimous consent in 558 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,559 order for for you all to consider it. 559 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,200 That doesn't mean that everybody, you 560 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,640 know, if somebody could say, "Okay, 561 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720 let's just deal with this and I don't 562 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,760 want to vote for it, but 563 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,960 let's doesn't, it just means 564 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,960 that it won't be on the consent agenda." 565 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,480 In other words, somebody can say, "I 566 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,159 want to have a poll vote on this item in 567 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:42,480 order to get couple of procedural 568 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,320 things. One is if it fails a committee, 569 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,960 the sponsor co-sponsor doesn't need to 570 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,480 be a member of the committee. You can 571 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,400 get two council members to ask it be 572 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,600 placed upon the committee agenda tonight 573 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,240 and then for you to consider it tonight 574 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,039 meeting upstairs at 575 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,480 7:00, you would require unanimous 576 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,279 consent members present. 577 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:07,840 So what I'm saying is at this point, you 578 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480 know, if if if it's if it's going to 579 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,000 fail, but if the members want to push 580 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,039 the legislation forward for tonight for 581 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:19,880 at least get to the ask for unanimous 582 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,960 consent be placed on the agenda when we 583 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,679 have to draft a 584 00:26:24,679 --> 00:26:27,919 draft resolution. So that I'm just for 585 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:28,840 time 586 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,400 purposes. Mr. 587 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,799 So thank you for that. I I 588 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:38,240 I'm not sure that it would fail based on 589 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,520 previous conversations that have 590 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,679 happened. I respect the fact that you're 591 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,120 asking questions. We all need to make 592 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,159 informed decisions. Um but again, this 593 00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:49,960 is money earmarked for uh to support our 594 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,240 youth. We have one of the longest 595 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000 standing uh youth serving agencies in 596 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,760 the city of Skenctity um with strong 597 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,520 demonstration of grassroots effort. 598 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000 they've been surviving and and and and 599 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,880 doing things, you know, uh existing in a 600 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,039 space with zero to no institutional 601 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,200 support. So now we're in now we have an 602 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,240 opportunity to make sure that we support 603 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,799 them. So I don't again and I believe and 604 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,880 I don't want to speak for you um but I 605 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,640 believe in our our previous council 606 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,480 meetings that this um had your support 607 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,640 and I'm sure that in previous council 608 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,080 meeting that you said it had your 609 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,120 support as well, Mr. 610 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,640 So, I'm trying to figure out now. I 611 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,000 don't know if we just ask some questions 612 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,320 or are you saying that you're voting 613 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,520 against this? I'm just trying to get 614 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,039 what your position is and be clear about 615 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,960 that now. Well, I mean, I really have 616 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,120 put a lot of thought into this um over 617 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,679 the last week, and I really feel 618 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,000 strongly that if we're going to include 619 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,799 this type of activity in our budget, um 620 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,520 that we should be thinking about how we 621 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,360 support all of our I mean, again, as 622 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,360 chair of health and recreation, I think 623 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,880 it's important for us to be thinking 624 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960 about if we're going to do this at all 625 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,480 with any of our teams, um how do we, you 626 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,559 know, do it so that we can support beach 627 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,039 recreation in general the same way that 628 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,640 we're supporting youth employment. Um, 629 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,159 so that's sort of my position and what 630 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:13,679 I've been thinking about, I think, in 631 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:17,039 terms of, you know, really being 632 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,120 stewards for the for the money and, you 633 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,159 know, for our for our city's finances. 634 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:24,159 um knowing you know what's going to be 635 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:24,840 coming 636 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,000 ahead you know I'm just I just feel I'm 637 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 not even sure you know where we should 638 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640 end up on any of this um in terms of how 639 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600 it compares to our infrastructure how it 640 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600 compares to other things other needs of 641 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,440 the city um knowing that as you said I 642 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840 think last week you know we had to 643 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 increase our our our fees for trash 644 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,919 collection we you know had to increase 645 00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:49,600 our water fees we had to increase our 646 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,679 sewer fees I think all of that's going 647 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:53,520 to be worse in the next year's budget. 648 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520 What I'm coming to the table with after 649 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,679 thinking about this for the last week is 650 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:01,360 should we be considering and I know I'm 651 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,320 stepping ahead here but in our 2026 652 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,440 budget how do we think about youth 653 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,200 programs? And I also just want to say 654 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,600 that I you know Mr. Barrett's meeting is 655 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840 still uh underway uh so I'm not sure 656 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,440 he's going to make it uh tonight. So the money that we're talking about about 657 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080 right now is here now. You're talking 658 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,080 about in the future and I understand 659 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,480 that. But this money or spending this 660 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,240 money will have no uh impact to our 661 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,159 budget as it stands right now as the 662 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:34,320 money has already been allocated to 663 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,880 support the program. So So the things 664 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,080 that you brought up though are are are 665 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,760 very good points, but they're completely 666 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,520 irrelevant to to the issue that's on the 667 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480 table right now. So we are able to um 668 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,000 allocate this funding to this youth 669 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,880 program right now as it stands without 670 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,799 it making any difference to the budget 671 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,679 as it exists now and you still have the 672 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,600 time and the consideration to make 673 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440 moving forward around what it can look 674 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,480 like for all our programs. So I'm 675 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,039 starting to hear the 676 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,320 different reasons as why not. And it 677 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240 almost feels like we're fighting to find 678 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,080 reasons why we can't do it when it's the 679 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,399 money's here right now and it doesn't 680 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:18,919 impact us. Uh what our next year's 681 00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:22,640 budget Mr. May but I submit to the 682 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120 council for your consideration school 683 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,520 move down a path that provides some 684 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,919 support to do it. Uh it's an 685 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:35,120 organization that's for 50 years gotten 686 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,679 by with community support. All of a 687 00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:39,760 sudden this year saying there's no 688 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,039 community support. I didn't say that. I 689 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,399 just looking for the total amount to 690 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:48,640 come from the city. So what you just 691 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,720 talk go through it. Sorry Mr. May 692 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760 apologize. 693 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,399 Uh let's look to see what they would be 694 00:30:56,399 --> 00:30:59,840 able to raise on their own and put 695 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,159 something together to support that to 696 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:06,039 allow still to be a uh first 697 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:10,080 class uh organization that goes forward 698 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,080 because a year from now if we give them 699 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,240 everything that takes the 700 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,320 uh fundraising mechanisms that they have 701 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200 been using it creates a gap people 702 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080 sometimes won't you know if you give to 703 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880 an organization every year you that just 704 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520 becomes part of the business plan for 705 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,240 businesses for other 706 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,880 organizations if you fund it and they 707 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760 don't have to ask for 708 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,279 it a year from now I'll tell you we're 709 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,919 going to be in a much more difficult 710 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:43,760 budget process just you know the ARPA 711 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,840 money here has roughly $6 million 712 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640 uh is the hole we're starting off with 713 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,799 and then so we then take some numbers, 714 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,960 see what they can raise realistically, 715 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,080 come back and take a number that fills 716 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320 the gap and allows them to maintain 717 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 their program at a level that they have 718 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,559 in the past. He's part um I understand 719 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,320 that. I'd like to propose that we um 720 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,600 approach it differently though because 721 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,519 we've done this with other 722 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,480 organizations. I'd like to propose that 723 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,799 we give a specific amount. I'll just say 724 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,200 one thing you at least have and then 725 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,360 we've asked other organizations to if we 726 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,880 will allocate this and then you have to 727 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,880 have matching funds. So let's give a 728 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,679 number so that to say we will allocate 729 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:28,799 this much and then you have to have 730 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:30,399 matching funds and that way we can do 731 00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:32,720 that tonight and then say in order to 732 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,640 get this you need to have matching funds 733 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120 and then they have an opportunity to um 734 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,320 already go out there and get it. They 735 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,519 know that the city has made this 736 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:40,799 investment and they can kind of use it 737 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,399 to say the city has invested this amount 738 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,960 of money and would you now need this is 739 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720 the number we need to get to and are you 740 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960 willing to help us get there. So I would 741 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,559 propose it be handled with that that 742 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,120 yes I wouldn't disagree with everything 743 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,080 that the mayor entirely said but I would 744 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,830 say in its 745 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,159 uh in its framework isn't that in 746 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:05,519 essence what the community development 747 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,480 block grant does like annual repeat 748 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,360 funding to the same organizations year 749 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,559 in year out and I would say based on 750 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,240 that concept I would say if we are then 751 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,159 holding this organization to that 752 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,480 standard. Then we replicate across 753 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,200 entire operations across the city for 754 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240 your various points. So I can respond to 755 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,679 that because for my career as a 756 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,640 fundraiser um I pretty much every year 757 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,679 applied for a CDBG grant and they're 758 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,519 very competitive and you don't always 759 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,320 get them. Um the same organizations 760 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,519 don't get them. There's a whole 761 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,760 selection process. Anybody can apply for 762 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,000 it. Well, I mean, I shouldn't say that. 763 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,320 Um, you have to be a 501c3. You have to 764 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120 fit within the parameters of the CDPG 765 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320 grant program. Um, but the same 766 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,159 organizations are not funded every 767 00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:00,960 single year. It also people have to keep 768 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,640 in mind that it's a competitive grant 769 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,679 program. It's not automatically awarded. 770 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:09,520 Um probably I probably got rejected uh 771 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,079 many more times than I got funding from 772 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:16,079 CDBG um at my various uh workplaces uh 773 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:17,839 whenever I applied. So I just want to 774 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:19,440 you know make sure people are well aware 775 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,440 of that. 776 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,359 So let me just I want to add a level of 777 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:25,040 clarity. There are some organizations 778 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,480 who consistently over the years and the 779 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,079 records will show that they've always 780 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,599 there may been some organizations that 781 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,440 maybe they were new maybe whatever 782 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520 number of reasons but to Mr. Wayne's 783 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,960 point there have been there has been a 784 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,040 level of consistency actually it's come 785 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440 into question that we're consistently 786 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520 funding these organizations like if we 787 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,639 always give them they're never going to 788 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,399 have so there has been a level of 789 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,399 consistency when we funded the same 790 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:50,079 organizations over and over again I% and 791 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,320 so um I agree with Williams that that 792 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,359 maybe next year I'll learn uh should 793 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,839 look at CDBG funds but right now we're 794 00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:00,160 looking at the ARP funds which have a 795 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,680 deadline they you know have an 796 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,880 expiration 797 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,760 And again, we could if we can't do the 798 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,440 entire thing, we could come to this 799 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920 level of compromise where we're saying 800 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,839 this is what we can do and then then ask 801 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:14,480 for matching funds. 802 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Did you have your hand up? Oh. Oh, I'm 803 00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:18,960 sorry. 804 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,880 I generally agree with everything 805 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320 everybody's saying, but should also be 806 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160 cognizant of some of the changes in 807 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720 Washington. If anybody at this table can 808 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,880 predict what's going to happen, you 809 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,240 shouldn't be at this table. You should 810 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,599 be on the national news service 811 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,640 guiding the country. But if council 812 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560 president's outlined if you want to pick 813 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,720 a number 814 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:46,280 of 50% or 20,000 or 815 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,280 22,000 something of that level, make it 816 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000 work. 817 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,079 Mr. Farley, Mr. Williams, and I keep 818 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,599 thinking you have your ar your hand up, 819 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,359 but I guess you don't. You do? Yeah. 820 00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:01,359 Okay. No, I'm just Do we I'm still stuck 821 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:03,160 on the 822 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,240 um the the money. Is it possible some of 823 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,720 that can be covered and allocated? But 824 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:12,280 do we know if if there's been any um 825 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,960 programmatic advantage as there are some 826 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,880 restrictions on stuff and some of it's 827 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,359 to go through what the 828 00:36:20,359 --> 00:36:23,680 actual expenditures they're looking to 829 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,599 do. 830 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,200 Mhm. Sometimes looking at 831 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,760 the clips on the list today, there are 832 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,400 sometimes like uniforms or helmets or 833 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,240 other things that they might buy. I 834 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,320 haven't looked into this, but there may 835 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040 be some things where the city has 836 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,119 opportunity through state contracts that 837 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,680 we could buy those cheaper. So, we 838 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,280 wouldn't give them the money, just buy 839 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,839 the helmets and give it to them. And so 840 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,280 there would be a little bit more 841 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440 negotiations of trying to manage the 842 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,720 best value for the outcome of the things 843 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:03,589 that they're attempting to achieve. 844 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,800 Yes. I'm I'm sorry. Oh, are you Mr. 845 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,359 Crowley? So Mil's not asking us to um 846 00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:13,520 fully fund them. That's not that's not 847 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920 what the request. Um the request what 848 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,680 they're the requested amount would get 849 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,720 them through this season. Um, and they 850 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,720 would still have to fund raise and do 851 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,160 the hard work that they've been doing, I 852 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,520 don't know, for the last 50 years. I'm 853 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,920 sure that's not going to change um, in 854 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 order to um, get them through like the 855 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,839 postseason if they get to the Super 856 00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:33,359 Bowl, which they have, I think it was 857 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:34,640 like three out of the last five years. 858 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720 I'm not sure about that, but I know. And 859 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,000 how I know is because every time they 860 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,440 make the Super Bowl, we bring them down 861 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,880 here and we smile and cheer for them and 862 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,560 take pictures with them again. So what 863 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,839 I'm saying is that right now 864 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:52,720 uh the ask would uh help them through the season until they um win uh 865 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,640 the and get enough wins and go on to the 866 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,880 postseason which I have confidence that 867 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,119 uh they'll be able to do that. Um but um 868 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,920 it's not asked and again they hadn't 869 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,440 come to us with a request uh prior to 870 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,760 this because they've been working so 871 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,079 extremely hard to provide these young 872 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,599 men and women in our community the 873 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,760 protective factors that they um that 874 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,320 they supply. You know, I was just on at 875 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,760 uh the uh YMCA over the weekend where 876 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,480 the lieutenant governor was speaking. Um 877 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,800 he's a Belmont uh alumni. Uh the 878 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,720 executive director is also a Belmont 879 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,160 alumni and it got me to thinking about 880 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,520 all of the people that have uh raised in 881 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760 this community that has gone on to do 882 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,760 some pretty substantial things and you 883 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160 know Belmont is a part of that pedigree. 884 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,119 Um, so outside of the 50-year track 885 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,440 record, which I, you know, I I think 886 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440 speaks for itself, I think supporting 887 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,040 them that money will be in good hands 888 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,880 and put to good use. I think they've 889 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,640 already proven that with their actions 890 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,040 more so than what uh what we're talking 891 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,880 about, Miss Porterfield and Mr. 892 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Williams. Okay. I just wanted to bring a 893 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,640 time to attention to that we had a 7 894 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,480 o'clock meeting. So when we have a 895 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,920 resolution to this meeting, we have 896 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,839 probably about 15 more minutes to make 897 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:12,079 that happen. Thank you, Mr. Williams. Uh 898 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,160 so sincerely I was here ready to fully 899 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560 meet the uh requested amount for their 900 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,359 regular season seems as though that is 901 00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:20,880 not something that we're going to 902 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,040 consider. Um it's put out 50%. Is there 903 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,000 a number that we work with with um us uh 904 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,359 us having a motion on that allows for 905 00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:36,280 there to be additional funds in the 906 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,200 intent that we hear from other programs. 907 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,839 And I say that in a caution of I still 908 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,440 want to have this conversation if we 909 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,280 hear from no other program because I 910 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,440 still heartfully feel that we should 911 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,400 fully meet their ask. I would be happy 912 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,760 to um I would be willing to uh look at a 913 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,160 different number. I do you know I think 914 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,079 that you all know that I since we have 915 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,520 so many people here who don't know me um 916 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,280 they probably know I think they know 917 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,079 you. Um, I just need to say that I 918 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:12,000 really have to say that yes, we have 919 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,400 photo opportunities uh when we bring 920 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,240 people here, but I find it insulting 921 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,480 that you're acting like that's the only 922 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,160 reason that we do it. And I need people 923 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,040 that don't know me to know that uh and 924 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,640 I'm speaking personally here, not 925 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,119 necessarily my city council hat on, but 926 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,280 I do do a lot of work in this community 927 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,680 for youth and for other folks in this 928 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,640 community. So, I just have to honestly 929 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,680 say that it it is somewhat insulting for 930 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,480 you to say that we do things just for 931 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,920 photo opportunities. Excuse me. Excuse. 932 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,079 So, so I just I just really needed you 933 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,760 know that I I tend to be let's 934 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,760 all the conversation please to the I 935 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,000 needed to confront and but but I have to 936 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,760 say this he sent it to everybody in the 937 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,040 council so everybody could have felt 938 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200 that way but you know 939 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,880 I was the person that did do the 940 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,760 resolution for the Belmont children when 941 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,440 they went so I was taking it a little 942 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,960 personally. Let's redirect the 943 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,359 conversation please to whether or not 944 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:10,560 funding that we're going to have. We are 945 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000 time limited so we have to do that. And 946 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,319 so Mr. um I'm sorry it's your it's your 947 00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,960 committee Mr. O'Brien has his hand up. I 948 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960 would just say if if one if one of the 949 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200 members of the comm Mr. Williams is the 950 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,319 member wishes to make a motion for an 951 00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:30,240 amount um to authorize Cocoa House to 952 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,800 disperse previously allocated ARPA funds 953 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040 up to a figure. I don't know what that 954 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,440 number is. the Belmont Pop Warner 955 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,520 football program upon the presentation 956 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,440 of documented budgeting requests for 957 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,319 uniforms equipment 958 00:41:43,319 --> 00:41:46,240 transportation participant registration 959 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,599 fees by the Belmont pop football program 960 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:54,000 to the cocoa house that's dealing with 961 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,760 it's just put the number in I think 962 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,680 that's encapsulating everything also 963 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680 it's grant money we have to be make sure 964 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920 there's a paper audit trail 965 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,359 so and substance That's what I'm hearing 966 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:11,119 is a motion. It's a it's a it's a figure 967 00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:15,000 a number for me to put in there. 968 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,960 Mr. The question is what do you feel 969 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,160 comfortable because my number would be 970 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,760 47,000. 971 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960 Oh yeah. Hence what number figure I 972 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,720 think that we were I think was it Miss 973 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,720 Porterfield or the mayor um were 974 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,880 suggesting a compromise perhaps of half 975 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,760 FEMA. Did you just say that? I I did say 976 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,240 50% but I rounded it up to 25,000 in my 977 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,599 head. 978 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:36,800 So, is that a number that you'd be 979 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,400 comfortable with? Mr. Fley, 980 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,280 I want to be clear that I definitely 981 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,000 like to see um the funded and filled, 982 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680 but also part of our job here is to make 983 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,440 concessions and and work with each other 984 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680 to do what we think is best um for the 985 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,680 community. And if that's a number that 986 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,200 you would uh that you're comfortable 987 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,079 with, um then I would support that if we 988 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,359 could move that out. 989 00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:05,280 So with this whole conversation in mind, 990 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,240 I would like to make a motion that we 991 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,800 everything you just said. 992 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,349 Could you repeat it for us? 993 00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:19,520 But you said to put a little flexibility 994 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440 in there because there's still accounts 995 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,640 where you may be able to nickel and 996 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,160 dime,000 997 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,950 bucks, 500 bucks. 998 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,359 So just a lot of part get mad at me for 999 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:35,280 that. So just to be clear, are we saying 1000 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,960 25,000 here? But there's other accounts 1001 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,599 of other places that you could 1002 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,800 if you're taking it. So I had sent the 1003 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,760 message 1004 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,599 to Willis who said nobody has talked to 1005 00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:51,680 him. So Mark had to have a conversation 1006 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160 with him and we're taking the whole 1007 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,359 amount of money from him. he might not 1008 00:43:56,359 --> 00:44:00,640 be happy with it. So if I nickel and 1009 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,000 dime other accounts 1010 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000 to minimize that and I'm not saying 1011 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,440 there's money sitting 1012 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,640 around huge amounts 1013 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,040 but just a little flexibility in order 1014 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760 up to so in other words up to in other 1015 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,160 words if there's other funding sources 1016 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,720 there'll be flex flexibility from other 1017 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,400 funding sources up to 1018 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,240 So there's there's a firm figure, but 1019 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,960 it's up to here. So as the mayor just 1020 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,400 indicated, there could be other sources 1021 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,710 of that. So 1022 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:41,160 go ahead. Well, I was just 1023 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,560 So was there a plan still for Cocoa 1024 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,200 House to be using the money? I don't 1025 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,240 know. Oh, okay. I misunderstood what you 1026 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,520 were saying. So I'll speak to that. So 1027 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,520 if we did say summer employment, it is 1028 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,280 June 9th and so I would thought by now 1029 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,800 we would be hearing what that is going 1030 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,560 to look like and to my knowledge we have 1031 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,760 not heard that and so uh I don't first 1032 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,520 of all it's it's it's actually city 1033 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,440 money. We just asked Coco House to 1034 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,319 administer it. So it is city money. Uh 1035 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:15,040 so I don't um want to make sure that 1036 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,800 we're doing our due diligence and 1037 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,720 spending the money first and foremost 1038 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,560 and we're doing it. We I know they're 1039 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,480 saying is employment but you see the 1040 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,160 level of flexibility. We're we're still 1041 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,680 making sure that we are supporting young 1042 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,800 people in our community and in terms of 1043 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,400 the amount I say up to 25,000 and um 1044 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,160 that's not taking the whole 47 that was 1045 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,440 the ask um from from this organization 1046 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000 um doing a summer youth program and and 1047 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,240 still an opportunity to do the summer 1048 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,920 youth program. In addition to that, in 1049 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,920 the past that that particular program 1050 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,119 has used summer youth from the county as 1051 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,960 well. So we could look at all the 1052 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,160 different ways to make sure they're 1053 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,640 still supporting their summer employment 1054 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960 with some of this funding as well as the 1055 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520 funding that um the employees the young 1056 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,880 people that they're getting employed 1057 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,800 through the county. 1058 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,920 Mr. 1059 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,800 So, this money that uh that we're 1060 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,319 talking about um is part of the money 1061 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:12,400 from the legislation that I brought 1062 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,920 forth um to to fund to make sure that uh 1063 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,560 the Cocoa House uh got the funding and 1064 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,400 support that they needed. Um so, the 1065 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,079 last thing that will do is allow us to 1066 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,079 turn into something that we're taking 1067 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,480 from one organization's ability to serve 1068 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,359 youth. the money that was came back into 1069 00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:31,920 the city um from the Cocoa House was 1070 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,119 money that they were unable to spend um 1071 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,760 within the required deadline. So I 1072 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,119 advocated for that money to still serve 1073 00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,599 the same purpose, the ultimate purpose, 1074 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,760 which would be serving the youth of said 1075 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,359 community. So I think that's a really 1076 00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:48,720 important distinction to make and it's 1077 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,400 something that that uh I just want to 1078 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,760 make sure that we put on record. we're 1079 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,200 not taking from this organization um 1080 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,359 with their capacity uh to serve the 1081 00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,920 youth. Um I see this as very uh close 1082 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,560 alignment. And again, moving forward, I 1083 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480 would just think that we would um talk 1084 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,640 about funding our youth services budget 1085 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,119 line. Um I asked for it to be up to 1086 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,319 300,000 this year. It was only 1087 00:47:11,319 --> 00:47:13,359 $150,000. And maybe this will be a good 1088 00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:14,640 point of reflection for us moving 1089 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,079 forward to make sure that we don't have 1090 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:18,640 to make those type of distinctions. Mr. 1091 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,160 And just my closing statement because I 1092 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,920 do believe that there is a motion on the 1093 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,760 table. I would say if the youth of the 1094 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,640 community are benefiting, who should it 1095 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,480 truly matter where that money comes 1096 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,560 from? We're all destined to be here to 1097 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,200 improve at least in this setting uh the 1098 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,480 quality of life and living conditions 1099 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,680 for them. We're able to do that through 1100 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,880 any means or mechanism that is within 1101 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,400 our I feel personally responsible to do 1102 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319 that. But sincerely, I believe there is 1103 00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:46,720 a motion. Yes. Um I'll end the whole 1104 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:47,839 resolution. I'm going to read the 1105 00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:49,359 resolution to the council here. So 1106 00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:51,160 unless it gets printed 1107 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,920 up says, "Whereas the city council has 1108 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,440 reviewed the financial needs of the 1109 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,359 successful youth recreational activities 1110 00:47:57,359 --> 00:47:59,000 of the Belmont Pop 1111 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,520 Warner football program and whereas the 1112 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,200 city council finds that a grant 1113 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,960 allocating funds to the grant to the 1114 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,280 Belmont Pop Warner football program to 1115 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,800 assist with the cost of uniforms, 1116 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,720 equipment, transportation, registration 1117 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,040 fees in keeping with the public purposes 1118 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,599 in the legislative intent of the 2025 1119 00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,440 operating budget for allocation for 1120 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,240 youth and recreational 1121 00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,440 activities. And now therefore being 1122 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,280 resolved, the city council does hereby 1123 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,960 authorize Cocoa House to disperse 1124 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,040 previously allocated federal ARPA grant 1125 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,599 funding up to 1126 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,160 $25,000 to the Belmont Pop Warner 1127 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,520 football program upon the presentation 1128 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,040 of documented budget requests for 1129 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,200 uniforms, equipment, transportation, and 1130 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,520 particip participant registration fees 1131 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,440 by the Belmont Pop Warner football 1132 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,760 program to Coco 1133 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,800 House. Is everybody okay with that 1134 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,800 language? 1135 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,319 Oh, sorry that you were raising your 1136 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:55,280 hand. You raising your hand. Okay. Um, 1137 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,480 the motion needs a second. Oh, second. 1138 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,319 In favor. 1139 00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:02,319 You have to call. 1140 00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:04,480 Sorry, I'm I'm not usually in the role 1141 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,200 as chair of this committee, but um, all 1142 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,559 in favor? I I and Madame President, just 1143 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,240 to save time this because we have to 1144 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,000 draft this. Does the council have an 1145 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,760 endless consent to put this piece of 1146 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,240 legislation on Kent agenda tonight? 1147 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:19,839 Well, we have it on for unanimous 1148 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:21,040 consent, but we didn't know if it's 1149 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,319 going to happen, but we were prepared, 1150 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:24,640 right? It's on there for unanimous 1151 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,359 consent. And uh so we're we don't have 1152 00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:28,440 Are you going to be able to type that 1153 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,040 up? I have to you have to go type that 1154 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,680 up. Okay. But it is on the listed on the 1155 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,760 agenda in anticipation that would happen 1156 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,160 and if when things don't move forward on 1157 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,000 the agenda we can always remove it but 1158 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,359 thankfully we won't have to do that 1159 00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:45,119 tonight. Okay. Thank you. 1160 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,520 So I ask for a motion to Is there 1161 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,960 anything else that needs to come before 1162 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,680 the finance committee? Okay. Um then I 1163 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,960 ask for a motion second. All in favor? 1164 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,870 Thank you. We have nine 1165 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:14,150 minutes. How 1166 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:24,109 do you 1167 00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:28,119 feel good?