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» I'd like to call to order the city

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caucus meeting for Monday, July 14th,

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2025.

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We have 14 items for original

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consideration and one item for

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introduction only. If the clerk would

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please read the local law being

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introduced.

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A local law to create article 5 section

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210-20 to chapter 210 of disconnectity

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city code prohibition of eviction

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without good cause.

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>> Thank you. If the clerk could please

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read item number one.

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>> Item number one for final consideration.

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An ordinance to amend article 7 trucks

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section 248 of the Skenctity city code

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to exclude trucks, tractor and tractor

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trailer combinations over eight tons on

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Kings Road from Albany Street to the

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city line.

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>> Discussed in committee without objection

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on consent. Item number two.

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>> Item number two for original

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consideration. A resolution calling for

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a public hearing to create a local law

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for article 5 section 210-20 to chapter

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210 of the Skenctity city code

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prohibition of eviction without good

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cause.

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call for roll call.

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>> Roll call on item number two. Item

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number three.

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>> Item number three for original

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consideration. A resolution authorizing

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the Department of Finance to make a

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second budget amendment to the 2025 golf

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course budget.

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on consent. Item number four. Item

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a resolution to authorize the mayor or

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his designate to enter into supplemental

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agreement number one with New York State

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Department of Transportation for the

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Crane Street Bridge Rehabilitation over

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CSX Amtrak, City of Skenctity, New York

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State, DOT, pin number 1762.36.

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» Discussed in committee without objection

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on consent. Item number five. Item

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number five for original consideration,

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a resolution authorizing a 2025

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reallocation related to an agreement

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between the city of Skenkity and CSEA

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local 1000 AFS CME AFL CIO unit 8501

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on consent. Item number six.

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consideration. a resolution authorizing

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a 2025 budget reallocation related to

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the to an agreement between the city of

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Skenkity and the International Union of

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Operating Engineers, local 158 district

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106 operating engineers.

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>> Discussed in committee without objection

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on consent. Item number seven.

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>> Item number seven for original

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consideration a resolution authorizing

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the mayor to enter into an agreement

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with for the city hall parking lot 27

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Broadway license. discussed in committee

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without objection on consent. Item

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consideration, a resolution authorizing

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the sale of 652 Sunset Street for

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objection on consent. Item number nine.

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consideration, a resolution authorizing

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the sale of 714 Broadway for $31,000.

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on consent. Item number 10. Item number

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10 for original consideration, a

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resolution authorizing the redemption

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and withdrawal of 2110 Lennox Road from

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consideration. A resolution authorizing

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the settlement of a tax certary action

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by the owner of of property located at

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433 State Street.

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objection on consent. Item number 12.

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consideration, a resolution authorizing

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the settlement of a tax certary action

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by the owner of a property located at

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450 Dwayne Avenue.

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>> Item number 13 for original

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consideration, a resolution authorizing

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the settlement of a claim by Mount

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Pleasant Bakery, Inc. and Joseph Ratano.

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objection on consent. And item number

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consideration. A resolution recognizing

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the March for Jesus 20th anniversary

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on consent and this will be presented at

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their march on July 26th.

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» Thank you. If there's nothing further to

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come before the city council caucus, I

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ask for a motion to adjurnn. Motion by

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Mr. Mutar, second by Miss Patrick. All

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in favor? I. We are adjourned. I'd like

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to call the city council me meeting to

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order for Monday, July 14th, 2025.

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And I'd like to call on Reverend JC for

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the prayer invocation.

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» Father, we thank you once again for this

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in this place.

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We thank you for giving us another day

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in this land of the living.

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Now we pray for wisdom, Father.

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Wisdom to ask the right questions.

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Wisdom to get the right answers.

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For you are the God of wisdom. Without

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that wisdom in display this tonight, oh

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God, in this place and we give you

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thanks in Jesus name. Amen.

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>> Amen. I'd like to call on Harleen

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Andress to lead us in the pledge of

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allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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>> Thank you.

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» I'd ask the clerk to please complete the

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roll call.

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>> Mr. Toro,

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>> Mr. Farley,

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>> Mr. Mancini

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>> here,

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>> Mr. Muver.

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>> Present.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Miss Patrick

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Williams is absent. Miss Porterfield

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>> here.

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» Thank you. I'd ask for approval of the

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minutes for June 23rd, 2025.

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>> Moved by Mr. Mudarin, second by Miss

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Patrick. All in favor?

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>> Thank you. I'd ask the clerk to please

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read any communications and petitions.

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>> Communications presented to the city

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council for Monday, July 14th, 2025.

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Under official, there were none. Under

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general, there were none. And under

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petitions, there were none.

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>> Thank you. Calling on council members to

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provide any committee reports.

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Okay. At this time, we will have

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privilege of the floor related to the

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legislative agenda. And

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I'm going to guess at a number, but it

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looks like we have about 23

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people signed up to speak.

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The first person signed up is Justennia

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McCully.

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Just McCully.

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She did submit an online she does we do

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have an online submission for this uh

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individual.

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She wrote, "Nitrous oxide, often sold in

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small canisters as galaxy gas or

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whippets, is being used by teens and

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young adults across the country,

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including here in Skenctity. New York

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Public Health Law Section 338

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3380.

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It is unlawful to sell or deliver

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nitrous oxide for inhalation purposes

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except for lawful medical, dental, or

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industrial use. Vendors must have a

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legitimate reason for sale and cannot

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knowingly sell for recreational

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inhalation.

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The New York General Business Law 339-H,

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retailers must post signs warning

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against unlawful use of nitrous oxide.

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Failure to do so can result in fines.

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I am proposing adopting language to make

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the sale of nitrous oxide outside of

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grocery stores illegal in Skenctity.

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>> Thank you, James Samino.

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>> Good evening.

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>> I am speaking about good cause eviction.

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Now, if it was my choice,

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um I would like to see uh code

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enforcement have enough uh staffing to

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make sure that every apartment in New

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York uh state, but Skenctity

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specifically, is safe

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and habitable by any reasonable

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standard. I would also love to see a

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fund created so that people with low

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income in an emergency would have access

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to some way to maintain their residence.

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But it's not Christmas and as far as I

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can tell, there are no saints here for

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miracles.

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What we can do very realistically

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is do what New York State has already

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given us the opportunity to do, which is

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pass good cause legislation in

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Skenctity.

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I just want to toss a few quick stats at

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you. um for this is 2022 and it's

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according to that infamous communist

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organization the United States Census

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if you live in the zip code

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12307

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one in every 6.8 renters faces eviction

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one in every 9.5305

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one in every 10.2 2 1 2 12304

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one in every 10.6.

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Now, if we go to some of the um other

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zip codes, Roderdam 12306, one in every

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Glennville 1 2302,

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one in every 922,

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and in Isuna,

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one in every 70.

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Now,

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I agree that landlords should have the

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right to protect their buildings, but

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here are the rights that landlords still

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have under good cause. You can evict

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someone for non-payment of rent. You can

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evict someone for violation of the lease

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as long as you've provided a 10-day

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notice to cure. Nuisance behavior,

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neglect of property, gross negligence,

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still can evict someone for that. Um the

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occupation of the of the unit is not um

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safe. Failure to give access. Using the

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apartment for illegal purposes,

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plans for the owner or or close family

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member to occupy.

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Um no longer going to be a rental.

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Tenant refuses uh

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to sign a new lease with proper notice.

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And the rent increase, of course, is

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limited to um 5% plus uh the rate of

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inflation

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or 10% cap.

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As I read through these today, again,

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kind of reviewing the good cause law, it

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struck me that I can't understand why

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someone would oppose

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this.

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You can still evict someone for all the

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reasons you used to be able to. What you

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can't do is evict someone randomly. Hey,

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I don't like them. I don't like their

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attitude.

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Well, tough.

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There's a process for people to be uh a

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lease not renewed or evicted should that

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process go forward. So, with all of that

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and all these landlord

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protections,

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>> I need you to summarize.

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>> Thank you. I don't understand. I mean,

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it just seems like to oppose this is

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more of an act of cruelty

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>> than it is responsibility.

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>> Thank you.

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[Applause]

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Ladies and gentlemen, we do have a full

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house. I want to remind speakers that

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you do have three minutes and also

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please do not boo other speakers.

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Everyone has a right to their opinion.

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Greatly appreciate that. Thank you.

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Can Canyon Ryan?

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Hello, my name is Canyon Ryan. I'm the

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executive director of United Tenants of

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Albany, but we have a vested interest in

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the capital region tenants and

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especially good cause eviction. Um, what

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I've asked the council member to

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distribute is a little document that I

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wanted to share with everybody. It's a

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list of the publicly available

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information that I think is relevant to

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good cause eviction. The one thing I

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wasn't able to get was the amount of

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evictions that have been executed. I had

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to submit a FOYA to Skenctity County and

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that hasn't been responded to yet.

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Between 2022 and 2023, Skenctity was the

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uh third highest county for evictions

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per 100 renters as the former speaker

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kind of already acknowledged. Um the

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capital region tenants

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disproportionately are impacted by the

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eviction crisis is demonstrated by Wler

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being number one and Albany being tied

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for number four, but Skenctity is tied

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for number three. Um I've also included

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some statistics about evictions for the

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major uh zip codes in the area. On the

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second page, you'll see the types of

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eviction in the city. Um, between 2022

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and 2025, we see that holdovers

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represent about a fifth of all eviction

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proceedings, of which could cause

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eviction would likely reduce that

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significantly. Um, we also see that the

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total number of eviction filings have

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gone down. Um, not significantly, but

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they have. I just want to note that in

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Albany, eviction proceedings have gone

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down about 20%, but eviction executions

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have actually increased. So there's less

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frivolous lawsuits or frivolous eviction

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proceedings being taken uh into into the

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courts, but there's still an issue here

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nonetheless. I also included below this

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um oh and sorry. So just to say that

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demonstrates that one in every 10

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renters across the city face eviction

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here in Skenctity. Um next is the fair

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market rent between 2020 and 2025 as

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well as the area median income between

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the same period. What it demonstrates is

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that for a one-bedroom and a

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two-bedroom, there's been a respective

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increase over the last 5 years of a

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43.85%

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and a 41.08%

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for two bedrooms. U meanwhile, the area

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median income has only increased 17%,

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which demonstrates that over the last 5

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years, fair market rents have increased

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at a rate of higher than 2:1 um the

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tenants average income, which I think is

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really remarkable actually um that rents

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are outpacing our wages by 2 to1 over

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the last 5 years. Um, and they also

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included a list of the localities that

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have opted into good cause as of April

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23rd, 2025, according to DHCR's website.

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What you'll find here is that the only

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changes uh aside from so two things the

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city can change is the maximum fair

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market rent and then the definition of a

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small landlord. All of these cities have

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opted to define a small landlord as

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those with one unit anywhere in New York

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State within their rental portfolio. And

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they've only changed the maximum fair

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market rent, which I think is the right

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call here. And the reason for that is

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because it's very difficult for tenants

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to know if they're protected by good

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cause eviction if it's not in their

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home. If they look upstairs, they know

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that there's a renter upstairs, they

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know that they're protected. If they

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look upstairs and their landlord lives

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there, they know that they're not

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protected. They're exempt from good

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cause eviction. And then on the um the

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final two pages, I've just included some

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case studies, one from Danker Village uh

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and one from Bleecker Terrace where

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tenants were facing egregious rent hikes

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um and we were able to win good cause

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eviction in both of these cases at

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different time periods. what's and I

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I'll kind of rest my case there. I hope

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that this is helpful. Um I heard council

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member Mancini say that he wanted to see

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more data and I thought that it would be

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helpful if I prepared some for you.

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Thank you so much.

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>> Thank you

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[Applause]

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>> Vivian Zazzley.

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Good evening.

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I'm here tonight because I'm stoked

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about having an opportunity to speak.

449
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:13,200
Can you hear me? All right.

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00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,320
>> Not really.

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>> Yeah.

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>> No.

453
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>> Can you take the mask?

454
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I can't

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>> I'll take care of it. Young PE people,

456
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please. Thank you.

457
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,640
>> Would you just like to You could leave

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your statement with us if you would

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like.

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>> I don't I have a a notepad. I I can't

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take my mask off. I'm

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00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,480
>> If you Okay, ma'am, if you want to. Uh

463
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
um ma'am,

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>> yes, ma'am. Excuse me. Can Can you let

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me do this? I appreciate it. if you

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could just go ahead and speak and we'll

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try the best if you can get as close to

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the mic as you can. Okay.

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00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,830
>> Thank you.

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One of my main concerns

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is landlords don't need to show that

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they have good reason to get rid of a

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tenant. So, they're non-renewing tenants

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in retaliation for asking for basic

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repairs.

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I am here to speak for a group of people

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that have no voice and get no respect.

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For the past 10 years, I lived in the

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YW.CA of Skenctity and the stockade.

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The assumption is that people who live

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in the YW.CA CA are illiterate and

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ignorant and that they are old hookers

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who can no longer make a living selling

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you know what

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I have two master's degrees

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I taught at Sunni

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and I can speak for myself

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something happened and my life took a

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turn and that's how I ended up at the Y

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moved out of the main building because

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they're shutting it down

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because of it needs repairs.

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And I moved into a house in the stockade

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for the past two weeks.

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My temperature in my house, my I'm on

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the top floor of a two apartment house

497
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has been between 85 and 100 degrees.

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When I left home this evening at 6:15,

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it was 90 degrees.

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I have no air conditioner

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and I can't open my windows because they

502
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either don't have screens or the screens

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are in the windows but they're not in

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the grooves.

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When I first moved in in November of

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2024, I couldn't open the windows

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because they were painted shut.

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Because the house was built in the

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1800s, it's got some peg in it, and

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nobody told me how to open the windows

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that I could get open.

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Now,

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I'm in an apartment for over two weeks

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since the heat wave started.

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between 85 and 100 degrees every day. I

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can't open the windows because when I

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do, there's no screens and the bees and

518
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the mosquitoes come in and I'm allergic

519
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to them. I'm 65 years old. I have asthma

520
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and have dealt with atrial fibrillation.

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When I moved into the apartment in

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November of 2024,

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I told them that there were problems

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with the windows. It's now July. They

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still haven't been fixed.

526
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I also requested a peak hole because I I

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can't see who comes to the front door or

528
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my apartment door. That was in November

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of 2024.

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I only got the peak hole a few days ago.

531
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Recently, a man came to the door. He was

532
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wearing a helmet and a yellow reflective

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vest, and he wanted to come in and see

534
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,679
my meter. I don't have a meter. I

535
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:15,440
refused to let him in because I was

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alone in the house, and I was scared.

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When I called the utility company,

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00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:24,720
there was no work order for a man to

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come into my house.

540
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,720
>> I need you to summarize, please.

541
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,320
My point in coming tonight in summary is

542
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that I have no rights.

543
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,120
I can't I'm living in an unsafe

544
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,720
environment.

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00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600
I'm paying rent, but my landlords don't

546
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,399
have to do anything. And it's the YW.CA.

547
00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,320
They're supposed to be taking care of

548
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,350
women.

549
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,200
And it's not that way at all.

550
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Some of them, the women who live there

551
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are hookers and they are on drugs.

552
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,279
>> I need you to summarize, please.

553
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,320
>> But not everybody is. So what I'm saying

554
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,240
is is please remember not everybody is

555
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
worried about their rent being raised

556
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,679
because I'm in rent control and I only

557
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pay onethird of my very small income.

558
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,670
>> Thank you.

559
00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:29,120
[Applause]

560
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:40,950
Ellie Pepper. Ellie Pepper.

561
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Good evening, Mayor, Madame President,

562
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,679
city council members. My name is Ellie

563
00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:48,640
Pepper. I live in the city of Skenctity.

564
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,320
We often hear landlords describe

565
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,480
themselves as small business owners, and

566
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,519
they are. But every other small business

567
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,919
knows that to stay open, you have to

568
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:03,200
treat your customers well. If a coffee shop gave you burnt coffee or

569
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760
refused to fix a broken table, you'd

570
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,880
stop going there. Tenants are housing

571
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440
customers, but unlike other customers,

572
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600
they can't just walk out the door

573
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000
because housing is essential and moving

574
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,559
is expensive and disruptive.

575
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,880
That's why some baseline protections are

576
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,279
necessary. Good cause doesn't prevent

577
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,320
landlords from making a fair return. It

578
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,480
just asks them to have a good reason for

579
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,679
ending someone's tenency.

580
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:33,279
I also want to correct something the

581
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:35,279
mayor recently said. He claimed he

582
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:36,799
hasn't heard from anyone who fears

583
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,600
retaliation for requesting repairs.

584
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,679
That's simply not true. Just a couple

585
00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:44,240
weeks ago at the rail, a few people

586
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,360
talked about this very issue. One woman

587
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,519
in particular, who's here again tonight,

588
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,440
spoke about how she has lived in her

589
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,480
apartment for 12 years and always paid

590
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600
rent on time. When a new owner took over

591
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,320
and neglected maintenance, she asked for

592
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,760
the needed repairs. The response, she

593
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
was told she could move if she didn't

594
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,800
like it. That is retaliation, and it's

595
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,560
exactly what good cause is meant to

596
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,720
prevent, and she stood up here and

597
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,639
talked about it.

598
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,720
Finally, I want to raise concern over

599
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,639
the mayor's repeated framing of this

600
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,200
issue as about protecting the middle

601
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000
class. That may sound neutral, but it's

602
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040
a dog whistle. It implies that tenants,

603
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,679
especially those in need of protection,

604
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,240
aren't part of the middle class. That

605
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,200
they're somehow other. In reality,

606
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,839
tenants are middle class. They're also

607
00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:42,560
workingass, retired, disabled, parents,

608
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,440
students, and essential workers. And

609
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,280
even if they're not middle class by

610
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,399
income, don't we want a city where

611
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,960
everyone is protected from unfair

612
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,359
treatment, regardless of their

613
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:58,480
socioeconomic status? This is a moment

614
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,160
to show that we value fairness,

615
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,680
stability, and dignity for all

616
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,760
residents. Please pass good cause

617
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,580
eviction protections. Thank you.

618
00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:09,920
[Applause]

619
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960
Thank you.

620
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:28,069
Jamaica Miles.

621
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,880
one copy.

622
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Good evening everyone. Um, I first want

623
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,880
to start off by saying thank you to the

624
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,400
council members that moved this out of

625
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,839
committee, that made sure that good

626
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:41,839
cause didn't stay in some perpetual

627
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:44,560
turning cycle of of debate, but did move

628
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640
it forward is very much appreciated. And

629
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,839
not just that it was moved out of

630
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:50,320
committee, but that yeah, it's just one

631
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160
copy of all the petition signatures. I

632
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,880
apologize. Um, but that it's the

633
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,480
strongest possible version of this

634
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,800
legislation that Skinnctity didn't just

635
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,720
cowtow and say we're going to

636
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,960
compromise, but went forward with

637
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000
finding the most

638
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839
powerful piece of legislation that we

639
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:11,200
could in this moment to support

640
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,240
renters in this city. It's a copy of the

641
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,920
petition signatures that have been

642
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
collected over the last few weeks. The

643
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,800
total number of signatures happens to be

644
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,760
194 and of those 148 of them in

645
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,839
Skenctity. Some of the comments that

646
00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:27,839
you'll see is John Romano who said

647
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:30,160
stable housing lowers the crime rate or

648
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Sabrina Henkins I agree things need to

649
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,000
change. These are real people having

650
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,400
real issues. Or Alex Solomon, this would

651
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,000
be a tremendous good cause for the

652
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,400
people of Skenctity. Or Karen Dixon who

653
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040
said rent is outrageous. Rent don't

654
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,000
match pay. or Lisa Russo. Tenants need

655
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,520
time to find an alternative if things

656
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,359
aren't working out. They need solid,

657
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:51,200
helpful, free resources and support to

658
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,480
help them understand their rights and

659
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560
their opinions. I mean, their options

660
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,240
and the support to be able to follow

661
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,280
through. Or Kima Haynes, they also need

662
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,040
to put a cap on how much rent can be

663
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
charged up here. These landlords are

664
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,400
living in New York City and charging

665
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,320
rent up here like it's New York City and

666
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
people's incomes can't even afford the

667
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,960
rent. Christine Walder, stop outrageous

668
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,480
rent increases for our people of

669
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Skenctity. People should have affordable

670
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,400
places to live if we want skinnity to

671
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,240
thrive. We need a place for all people

672
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,760
to live with dignity and affordable

673
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,560
homes. Or Andrew Tobias Nelson, our

674
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,480
communities thrive with stable housing.

675
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Without a safe place to rest, it is more

676
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,839
difficult to keep a job, to learn in

677
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:29,680
school, to stay healthy. Affordable

678
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,520
housing makes livable communities for

679
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,800
all of us. For all of us. Or Leanne

680
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,599
Earing, evictions upend lives. Moving

681
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,359
when you can't or don't want to is

682
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:41,520
traumatizing. People who pay their rent

683
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,119
should not live in fear of losing their

684
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,640
home because of greedy or lazy

685
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,720
landlords. Owning a rental property

686
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,960
doesn't make you a god. You aren't

687
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
providing housing. You are extracting

688
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,800
wealth from the working class. Or

689
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Juliana Ratigan. I hope the council sees

690
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,839
this for what it is. A chance to sew

691
00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:00,000
what's best for the a chance to do what

692
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,599
is best for the people of Skenctity

693
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,599
instead of doing what is best for the

694
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,160
personal profit. That's just an example

695
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,320
of the sentiment that has been expressed

696
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,320
for a very long time. I myself stood

697
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,320
here and talked about my own personal

698
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,320
experience in the city of Skenctity,

699
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,320
which apparently fell on some deaf ears

700
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,640
and not recognizing what I shared, the

701
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,440
personal stories I shared of my life in

702
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,200
this city and the number of times I had

703
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,760
to move and the hardship that it caused.

704
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,280
But here we are with this great

705
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,280
opportunity to ensure that we move the

706
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,119
city in the right direction because I

707
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,280
was told this is a new skenctity. So if

708
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,960
this is a new skenctity, then I look

709
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,480
forward to good cause passing

710
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,880
unanimously and supporting the idea of

711
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,560
there being a new skenctity, one that

712
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,760
supports everyone regardless of their

713
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,760
economic base, the neighborhood they

714
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480
live in, or any other determining factor

715
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,520
that might treat someone as an other.

716
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,830
Thank you.

717
00:38:52,830 --> 00:39:03,760
[Applause]

718
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:16,150
Thank you, Shimina Bong.

719
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640
» Good evening. Thank you to the ladies

720
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
and gentlemen of the council and for our

721
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,800
city for hosting this. My name is Shima

722
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Bong. Um, I'm coming here to speak on

723
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,320
behalf of the consumer and someone who's

724
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,520
had to navigate the crazy housing market

725
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,880
and the completely disruptive habits of

726
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,599
um, agencies and uh, the processing of

727
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,359
having to do a transfer of housing or to

728
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:52,240
transition from a stable renter who is

729
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,000
paying their rent on time and being

730
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,359
placed into a position where um where we

731
00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:01,599
referred to and I'll use a quote by um

732
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,160
used by some of the people opposing uh

733
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160
those people. And I'm just going to read

734
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,400
some of the um the effects of having to

735
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,880
be upended um unfairly as a consumer and

736
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,359
someone and the constituency that I've

737
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:20,880
had to basically battle homelessness

738
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,119
when it wasn't supposed to be an enemy

739
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:24,800
of mine.

740
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Emotional and mental health, strength,

741
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,800
anxiety,

742
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,720
and this is the impact on children.

743
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,880
interrupted education, loss of routine

744
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,240
insecurity, uh debt and instability,

745
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,800
barriers to future housing, the way that

746
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,200
it impacts your credit or your

747
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,880
credibility when you're trying to

748
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,640
transfer from one unreactive housing uh

749
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,200
providing office to another. So, I feel

750
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,760
that it is unfair to undermine the

751
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,400
importance of the consumers. Um, it

752
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,440
seems obvious that if you were to deny

753
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,599
or uh oppose fair evictions that you

754
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,040
actually um should understand and do

755
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,079
understand that directly causing social

756
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,640
impacts like displacement uh from social

757
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,680
networks, weaken community ties. um it

758
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,440
affects a certain demographic. Um and

759
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920
those people um where the burden falls

760
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,280
on them to then send applications to

761
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,200
landlords who are not local, who are out

762
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,480
of town to wait for unresponsive

763
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,280
uh processing uh paperwork and uh

764
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,040
including the fees and those of us who

765
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,720
have to deal with time constraints

766
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,440
because of these unreactive actors. I

767
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,200
feel like all that burden found

768
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,000
themselves on top of the consumer. It

769
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,599
would make it obvious that the the

770
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,119
consumer and people who are paying rent,

771
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:48,720
who are struggling to pay these

772
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,839
mortgages um for landlords that are may

773
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:53,599
or may not be here, they are the

774
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:55,520
backbone. They are the backbone of the

775
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,839
city. The consumer is the backbone of

776
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:00,960
the city. So having a legislation that

777
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520
lacks any language that protects those

778
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,000
people, it seemed would be obvious that

779
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,960
it's clear um

780
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,480
health risks. Um and in particular being

781
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,240
again one of those consumers who had to

782
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,480
deal with bouncing from health provider

783
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,280
to health provider to find out whether

784
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,599
my son was exposed

785
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,040
to lead when it's the properties that

786
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,119
contain the lead. And again the burden

787
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,760
is on the consumer not to be sick and

788
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,480
not the land the landlord to clear their

789
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,400
house of uh hazardous um materials.

790
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,720
It again it it sheds light that the

791
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,160
consumers bear the burden of this

792
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,280
housing uh this housing market and they

793
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,599
should be protected and that's why you

794
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,680
should pass good evictions

795
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,960
>> for the consumers because they're the

796
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,520
backbone.

797
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,500
>> Thank you.

798
00:42:53,500 --> 00:43:00,079
[Applause]

799
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:14,069
Sean Ratigan.

800
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,960
All right, you can hear me. Um, yeah.

801
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Hi. Uh, good evening. On June 23rd, the

802
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,319
council heard from both sides of this

803
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,800
issue. I was a bit taken back at so many

804
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,480
of those speaking against good cause

805
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,599
eviction using the fears of bad landlord

806
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,839
behavior being used as an argument to

807
00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:34,800
not regulate landlord behavior as good

808
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,119
cause eviction would do so. Several of

809
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,200
the individuals speaking against opting

810
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,760
in were concerned that somehow by

811
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,400
requiring a reason for eviction or

812
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,119
limiting rent hikes to a maximum of 10%

813
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,520
without justifiable reason would push

814
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,000
out landlord good landlords and we'd

815
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,040
only be left with predatory absentee

816
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680
landlords. This is fear-mongering and

817
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,160
the opposition has offered no data to

818
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480
back up these claims. I did a little

819
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,359
processing of the tax uh assessment from

820
00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:09,829
2025 and

821
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:13,040
estimated that at least 11,000 units

822
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,359
would likely be affected by good cause

823
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:18,319
eviction law. That's over 11,000

824
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,800
individuals and families that passing

825
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,920
this law can benefit. Those 11,000 units

826
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,480
are estimated using the 1,00 the 2,100

827
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,200
one family, 2,900 two family, 300 three

828
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,040
family, and 590 apartment properties

829
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,280
listed in the tax assessment. I

830
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,200
estimated four units for each of the

831
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,119
apartment properties to be conservative,

832
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,520
but that could be way higher than that.

833
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,440
So, that's really not accounting for all

834
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,760
of the large apartment buildings and

835
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,160
complexes in the city because most of

836
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,160
the buildings in the city likely were

837
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,200
built before 2009. And I excluded any

838
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,960
properties where the owner's address

839
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,119
matches the property's address to

840
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,680
account for owner occupied units. So, I

841
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,560
feel 11,000 units is a fairly solid

842
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440
estimate. So, you have the numbers.

843
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,240
You've read the law. You have heard

844
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,000
tenants tell you how they need these

845
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,680
protections. You've heard about how

846
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,720
concerns of the courts being overwhelmed

847
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,359
will be was has been proven to not be

848
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:25,520
the case in areas implementing similar

849
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,200
law.

850
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,839
You know that landlords can still evict

851
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:32,240
tenant tenants who damage property,

852
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,720
cause nuisance and don't pay rent or

853
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,960
otherwise breach breach the lease

854
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,000
agreements. You know that landlords can

855
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,720
still raise the rent beyond 10% for

856
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,160
various reasons in the law. So please

857
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,720
let's build a better skity where tenants

858
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,040
can lay down roots and stay in their

859
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,440
homes. Thanks.

860
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,370
>> Thank you.

861
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:56,420
[Music]

862
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,680
[Applause]

863
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:08,230
Thank you, Laurel Barnes.

864
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,000
Good evening, Madame President,

865
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Councilman, Mr. Mayor.

866
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,200
As you remember my last speech here,

867
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,880
I feel it was very powerful and

868
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960
meaningful.

869
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,640
I have heard from many people

870
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,440
uh a lady that

871
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,359
has a shop down on J Street. Her sister

872
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:33,599
was kicked out of her apartment and she

873
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,640
had a family all because the landlord

874
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,319
had a relative that needed the

875
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:40,160
apartment.

876
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,680
You can't tell me that that's not

877
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,880
disgusting cuz it is.

878
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,880
They had no right doing that to her and

879
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,800
her family. She had kids.

880
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,960
I'm still afraid to even talk to my

881
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880
landlord

882
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,200
for fear he is going to remember what he

883
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,359
said and he's going to kick me out next

884
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:00,960
year.

885
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,640
And believe me, none of you want to see

886
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,640
that happen because I will not be in a

887
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,200
good way.

888
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,839
I will not.

889
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:12,079
This is new skenctity.

890
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:16,319
Why don't you make it a better light

891
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:19,359
that it will bring people in who want to

892
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:23,200
stay here and live here

893
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,560
and bring their light to all of us.

894
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,280
And if you don't feel that's fair,

895
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,880
I really don't understand.

896
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
You'll be hurting a lot of mentally ill

897
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,359
people who can't take being thrown out

898
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:46,240
because we don't have the money. I live

899
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,560
off disability.

900
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,560
I make about $15,000 a year. I don't

901
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,000
have a I don't have the good graces of

902
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,800
being able to move. And I like where I

903
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,280
am.

904
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,150
The landlord is just a jerk.

905
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,880
He has no respect for anybody in his

906
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,119
buildings.

907
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:12,880
Nothing.

908
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,440
And he hardly ever shows up for anything

909
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,480
unless it's a serious emergency.

910
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,880
And he goes over to his gas station at

911
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,520
the Sicko Place, which is right across

912
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,400
from us. He never comes by to check to

913
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,880
see if everything's okay, cuz he doesn't

914
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,880
care. I've got windows that allows bees

915
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,640
to come in and all these other

916
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,200
bugs.

917
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,200
And

918
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
you know,

919
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,880
one of the things I think we all want

920
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,720
are better windows so we could keep the

921
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,240
heat in and keep the cool in and not

922
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,160
have to worry about it. I live on the

923
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,079
second floor

924
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,480
and the first two years I was there, I

925
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,559
didn't have an AC.

926
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:05,599
I lived on ice packs and a fan.

927
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,720
And the landlord, even before this one,

928
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,680
he was a good guy, but he still didn't

929
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,200
care enough.

930
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,839
And I want to leave you with all this

931
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:20,559
one quote.

932
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,559
Please don't hurt the people that are

933
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,200
part of this city.

934
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Just don't hurt them. The landlords are

935
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,480
still protected. But this is basically

936
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,640
going on the LLC's who are the evil

937
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,240
ones.

938
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:35,839
Thank you and have a good night. Thank

939
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:37,940
you.

940
00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:41,520
[Applause]

941
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:54,549
>> Mohamad Hz.

942
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,559
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Madame

943
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,400
President, city council member. My name

944
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,599
is Muhammad Hafes and I'm here to speak

945
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,829
as a land connecting landlord.

946
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:07,599
I'm speaking again is to propose good

947
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,920
cause eviction law because there are

948
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,520
plenty of new apartment that the city

949
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,240
has built for lowincome tenants on

950
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,559
Albany Street, Crane Street, Van Rankin

951
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,720
Avenue that we actually have to compete

952
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,200
against. It's this low rent and a bunch

953
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,599
of other places. For those tenants who

954
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,440
are unhappy with their current landlord,

955
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,839
please move out to one of these control

956
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:30,640
controlled uh rent apartment that the

957
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960
city has built or other projects that

958
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,680
are being built right now.

959
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,839
You will be happier in another place.

960
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:39,359
And for those people who complain about

961
00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:41,200
a screen window, I mean the Home Depot

962
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,720
sells a screen window for 15 $15 that

963
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,280
will protect you. And landlords, I know

964
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,960
a lot of landlords just provide that if

965
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,880
the screen is missing. I had screen

966
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440
windows that tenants just push out to

967
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,040
put on air conditioners and they don't

968
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,119
bother picking it up from the ground and

969
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,640
then they wind up having no screen

970
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,960
window. We replace it with a $15 screen

971
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,880
window from the Home Depot. So, it's

972
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,640
always a tenants damage that caused

973
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,280
this. For years, the city of Skenkity,

974
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,200
HUD, and banks have been selling homes

975
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,200
for a lot less than the market price.

976
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,359
So, go ahead, try to buy a new house.

977
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,440
Try to get a loan like we did. We

978
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,440
started that way. We started with

979
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,359
applying for a loan to buy a property

980
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:23,520
and it went on and on. The 5% the 5% or

981
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,280
yearly increase that some of the council

982
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,599
members are talking about. It's way too

983
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:29,760
low to cover the increase in operating

984
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,559
cost. We have the water, sewer, and

985
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,480
trash collection fee that you have

986
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,559
increased on us. The city has increased

987
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,720
on us. We have the material and supply

988
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:42,000
costs that quadruple in some cases.

989
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,839
We have insurance premium that increase

990
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:46,400
for about 30% on average. I know because

991
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
I'm in the insurance business. We have

992
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,559
the higher legal cost. We have to hire a

993
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,880
lawyer if we have a corporation or LLC.

994
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
We have we have higher legal cost to

995
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,680
evict non-paying and problem tenants.

996
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,000
And the char the retaliation issue they

997
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,079
all talking about

998
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,920
and they all worried about, you know,

999
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,240
being retaliated against. There's a

1000
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,720
bunch of other federal and state laws

1001
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,119
that protect you from retaliation. Why

1002
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:14,079
add another law? It's useless. There's

1003
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,109
no need for it.

1004
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,760
If this law passes, I promise you a lot

1005
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,599
of the landlords will keep the apartment

1006
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:23,839
vacants until we sell the property. I

1007
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:26,480
promise you I'll keep mine vacant until

1008
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,880
I sell my properties. And that's guess

1009
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,800
who's going to buy? The absentee

1010
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520
landlord that everyone dislikes in this

1011
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,000
town.

1012
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,920
We all know that pressing this law

1013
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,839
before November election is a

1014
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:43,200
politically motivated issue. While it

1015
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,160
may appear to be helping tenants to, you

1016
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,880
know, to get their votes,

1017
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,359
it will just make it finding affordable

1018
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:53,599
apartment a lot harder for them in the

1019
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,000
long run. So, please do not vote for the

1020
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,839
good cause eviction loans connector.

1021
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:02,100
Thank you.

1022
00:53:02,110 --> 00:53:04,160
[Applause]

1023
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:12,950
>> Thank you, Valerie Triano.

1024
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Hi. Uh, good evening, city council

1025
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,119
members. I'm here tonight to urge you

1026
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:19,920
all to vote yes on Skenctity opting into

1027
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,720
the good cause eviction law. Skenctity

1028
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,119
residents desperately need good cause

1029
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,280
eviction law protections. According to

1030
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,119
the city of Skenctity 2020 through 2024

1031
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:34,079
consolidated 5-year strategic plan

1032
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:35,839
overview in the capital region housing

1033
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:40,240
affordability study by CDRPC. In 2020, a

1034
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:41,680
household in Skenctity would need to

1035
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,079
earn at least $44,600

1036
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,119
per year. That's $2144

1037
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,079
an hour to avoid a two-bedroom rental

1038
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,960
unit at fair market rates. However, the

1039
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,480
hourly mean wage for a renter in

1040
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,599
Skenctity County was only $15.16.

1041
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,640
As of 2023, the average hourly wage

1042
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
needed to afford a one-bedroom apartment

1043
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,640
in the capital region, including

1044
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Skenctity, was $20.25.

1045
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Renters in Skenctity County face rent

1046
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,400
deficient

1047
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,960
with their hourly wages insufficient to

1048
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,800
cover housing cost for both one and

1049
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200
twobedroom apartments. This is not just

1050
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,190
a housing issue.

1051
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,760
It's a wage gap, a cost of living

1052
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,599
crisis, and a public policy failure

1053
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:29,920
allinone. Good cause eviction does not

1054
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,240
eliminate a landlord's right to evict.

1055
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:33,920
Landlords will still be able to evict

1056
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,400
tenants for non-payment

1057
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,200
uh illegal activity, lease violations,

1058
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,200
and property damage. They will still be

1059
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,240
able to raise rent so long as those

1060
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:45,839
increases are reasonable and based on

1061
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:48,559
actual costs. What this law does do is

1062
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:52,240
protect tenants from unjust evictions,

1063
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:53,839
retaliation, and unaffordable rent

1064
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:55,599
hikes, especially when those tenants are

1065
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,240
simply advocating for safe and livable

1066
00:54:58,240 --> 00:54:59,839
housing. This is not about punishing

1067
00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:01,680
landlords. It's about protecting

1068
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,760
residents, particularly those who rent

1069
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,160
from small local property owners. In

1070
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,640
fact, this law can help preserve local

1071
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,400
ownership by preventing corporate

1072
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,400
landlords from artificially inflating

1073
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,319
rents and pricing out community-based

1074
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:16,960
landlords. At the last meeting, I heard

1075
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,720
concerns from landlords suggesting that

1076
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:22,400
if good cause passes, they may

1077
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,720
leave units vacant, tighten rental

1078
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,640
requirements, or sell their properties

1079
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,280
to corporate owners. But let's be clear,

1080
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,760
those are choices.

1081
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,920
If a landlord responds to fairness with

1082
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,480
retaliation, that reflects their values,

1083
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,280
not the intent of the law of this law.

1084
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,160
I'm sorry. Good cause does not force

1085
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,440
anyone's hand. It simply sets a baseline

1086
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,559
of decency. So, I urge each of you to

1087
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,880
read the good cause eviction law

1088
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,000
carefully, set aside disinformation, and

1089
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
reflect honestly on what this means for

1090
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,920
the people's connectity. We need

1091
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,920
policies that support stability,

1092
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,160
dignity, and affordable

1093
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,640
living for all residents. Thank you for

1094
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,359
your time and consideration.

1095
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:12,930
Thank you.

1096
00:56:12,940 --> 00:56:15,760
[Applause]

1097
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:28,549
Thank you, Joan Justice. Joan Justice.

1098
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:30,559
Good evening,

1099
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:33,599
Madame President, council members, and

1100
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:37,030
Mr. Mayor.

1101
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,079
I believe that many residential property

1102
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,280
owners are conscientious.

1103
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,400
They maintain their properties well, and

1104
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,040
they are truly concerned about good

1105
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,599
tenant relations.

1106
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:55,200
We don't need good cause eviction

1107
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,640
for those

1108
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,079
rental property owners.

1109
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,680
There are many who are not

1110
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,280
conscientious

1111
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520
and interested in good communications

1112
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,960
with their tenants.

1113
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,400
I also request that you consider that

1114
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,599
many business investments

1115
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:21,920
do not involve people's

1116
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,950
homes.

1117
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,680
I do feel threatened about retaliation

1118
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,559
because I have asked for proper care of

1119
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:35,920
my appointment apartment and maintenance

1120
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,520
even in involving proper ground faults

1121
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,760
protections.

1122
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,400
This is what I heard.

1123
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,589
You play with me and I'll play with you.

1124
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,599
Is that possibly a threat of

1125
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:53,920
retaliation? I have to operate under

1126
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,640
that concern.

1127
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,640
I too am a person who having worked for

1128
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,599
pay since I was 14

1129
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:06,319
am now no longer able to work both by

1130
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:10,400
age and by granted full disability

1131
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,160
status.

1132
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,520
My income is very limited.

1133
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,200
I do have access to all the help

1134
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,319
available to me and I am very grateful

1135
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:27,359
and I appreciate it.

1136
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:29,839
But I'm here to tell you that there are

1137
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:33,839
some landlords who are so emboldened

1138
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:39,599
by abilities to remove tenants without

1139
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,079
good cause

1140
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,520
that just this Thursday,

1141
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,839
an adjacent property owner, not my

1142
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:53,040
building owner, one who shared a

1143
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,240
property line with my building owner,

1144
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,119
This is an owneroccupied

1145
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:03,040
building.

1146
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,119
One of the partners in this business

1147
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,839
that own this building does occupy an

1148
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:09,760
apartment.

1149
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Since their arrival for two months, we

1150
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,000
have been unable to use our parking lot.

1151
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Access has been dei denied regardless of

1152
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,599
easement rights.

1153
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:24,480
Parking on other people's property is

1154
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,319
taken because this owner occupier allows

1155
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:31,920
guests.

1156
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,720
I do I've witnessed it's been encouraged

1157
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,789
that such a thing

1158
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:43,920
be allowed. I've heard it and recently

1159
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,720
the other property owner adjacent same

1160
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,880
building threatened to contact my

1161
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,359
building owner to indicate that I was an

1162
00:59:55,359 --> 00:59:57,200
issue

1163
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,760
because I wanted

1164
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,799
less noise after 12 midnight

1165
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:08,960
because I can't go anywhere. I have no

1166
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,960
options and I beg you, I am begging you,

1167
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,640
protect

1168
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,720
us.

1169
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,580
>> Thank you.

1170
01:00:23,590 --> 01:00:29,990
[Applause]

1171
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,720
Bridget Savage Spies

1172
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:41,750
Bridget

1173
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,240
Hello, my name is Bridget Savage Spees.

1174
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,880
Um, I wanted to thank the council for

1175
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,559
moving forward with the strongest

1176
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,480
possible version of good cause eviction.

1177
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,400
Um, we really appreciate it. Um, I

1178
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,760
really appreciate you guys giving this

1179
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,440
topic the consideration that I think it

1180
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,400
deserves. Um, I've heard I heard last

1181
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,520
time that the council would like a

1182
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,520
little more information on as to the

1183
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,920
impacts of good cause. Um, while Sean

1184
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,599
spoke to that a little bit, I want to

1185
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,599
say that over half of skinnctity is

1186
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,240
renters. Um, and 88% of those renters

1187
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,040
would be covered by this version of good

1188
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,440
cause that you guys have presented. Um,

1189
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480
so with that, the impacts are wide

1190
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,240
reaching um, with the potential to

1191
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,839
significantly improve the lives of

1192
01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:28,079
tenants throughout Skenctity.

1193
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,079
Now, it can be hard to track how many

1194
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:33,680
lease non-renewals there are um because

1195
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,040
they're not filed with the courts like

1196
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,119
an eviction is, but studies by Rand

1197
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,119
suggests that there are five and a half

1198
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:40,880
informal evictions, they call them, for

1199
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,839
every eviction filed in the court. Um,

1200
01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:45,599
further research suggests that children

1201
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,040
are more than twice as likely to

1202
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,880
experience any type of eviction with the

1203
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,720
problem being dramatically worse for

1204
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,720
black children.

1205
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,319
any type of eviction or housing

1206
01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:56,240
instability can be extremely harmful to

1207
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,079
those children with a study from NYU

1208
01:01:58,079 --> 01:01:59,920
Grossman showing that instability

1209
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,760
regardless of the degree if it happens

1210
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,520
one time or 10. Um it can lead to worse

1211
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,559
health health outcomes later in life. Um

1212
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,000
and of course if children need to

1213
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,520
transfer schools it's disruptive to

1214
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,680
their education socialization.

1215
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,160
Displacement impacts um the whole

1216
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,520
community, not just those who are

1217
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,400
displaced. Um but the community and the

1218
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,480
city, the whole city feels the loss when

1219
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,400
a community member or a family is forced

1220
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,240
to leave.

1221
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,680
Telling someone that they need to leave

1222
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,960
their home is extremely serious. Um I

1223
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,640
heard a property manager at the last

1224
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,720
comment period in June say that under

1225
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,079
good cause they would have to provide

1226
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:38,559
proof to get a tenant out of their home.

1227
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:42,799
Um and I hope so. Um

1228
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:45,760
it If a decision to remove a tenant or

1229
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,200
and their family can be made

1230
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,440
unilaterally in silence without

1231
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,680
supervision from or oversight from

1232
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,520
courts or anyone um then it can and as

1233
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,960
we've heard today does go wrong. Um good

1234
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,040
cause if nothing else at least brings

1235
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,760
that process out into the light. Um it

1236
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,520
at least shows us where the problems

1237
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,440
are. It determines whether or not a

1238
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,359
landlord has a good cause to remove a

1239
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,680
tenant or if it is something simply ret

1240
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,920
like simple retaliation. Um

1241
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,440
while there are laws that prevent

1242
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,839
retaliation, they protect tenants after

1243
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,880
they've been displaced. Um whereas good

1244
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,799
cause prevents that from happening in

1245
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:28,000
the first place. Um, I really urge you

1246
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,079
to vote yes on good cause eviction

1247
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,160
because I believe that it makes the

1248
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,240
fabric of the city stronger and it has

1249
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,319
done so for other cities across New York

1250
01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:38,079
and I hope it can do so for Skenctity.

1251
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:38,880
So, thank you.

1252
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,970
>> Thank you,

1253
01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:46,950
[Applause]

1254
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,710
» Chris Sue. Chris Sue.

1255
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,640
» Hi, my name is Chris. I'd like to speak

1256
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,480
on behalf of tenants like myself in

1257
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
support of good cause eviction. So 17 is

1258
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,680
the number of cities and villages that

1259
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,520
have already opted into good cause

1260
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,640
across the state. Um and good cause is a

1261
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,640
state law that's already a compromise

1262
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,720
that doesn't punish good landlords while

1263
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,599
providing necessary stability

1264
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:16,640
um and uh tenant protections to ensure

1265
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,960
stability in people's lives.

1266
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,240
Um, good cause eviction should really be

1267
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,720
called common sense protections. Clear

1268
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,760
guidance on what constitutes good cause

1269
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,160
should lead to less backlogs in the

1270
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,920
courts and better outcomes for tenants

1271
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:38,079
and landlords. Um, so the limit of 5%

1272
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,520
plus CPI for a one-bedroom home, which

1273
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,119
is currently um 1,265

1274
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:50,480
according to the HUD for 2025, is $14

1275
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,599
per month. That's a allowable rent

1276
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:57,520
increase, which is $1,245

1277
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,720
per year. So I I think that's already a

1278
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,960
pretty large amount for people um um to

1279
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,119
see as um an annual increase and there

1280
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,440
are already carveouts to consider

1281
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,559
property tax and other tax increases and

1282
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:18,559
expenses for the landlords.

1283
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,920
So, I encourage the council to pass the

1284
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,440
strongest version of good cause because

1285
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,760
there are already these carveouts for

1286
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,240
the landlords and um to close the small

1287
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,359
landlord loophole of having one unit and

1288
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:35,359
um having the fair market rent at a high

1289
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:40,079
level. Um and in summary, um vote yes to

1290
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:42,400
pass good cause eviction. It'll help the

1291
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,839
community grow in the future. Thank you.

1292
01:05:45,839 --> 01:05:47,130
>> Thank you.

1293
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:51,670
[Applause]

1294
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:59,750
Holly Loth.

1295
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,920
Oh goodness.

1296
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,480
Good evening. Um, we've been very

1297
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,520
focused so far on who would benefit from

1298
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,880
or be harmed by opting into good cause,

1299
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,400
but we haven't really talked about who

1300
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,520
benefits from the status quo. who gets

1301
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,400
the best deal if things stay exactly as

1302
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,799
they are. And I think Slick is making

1303
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:23,760
the case that landlords as a group are

1304
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,680
the ones who benefit from the status

1305
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,160
quo. But I don't think that's true

1306
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,599
because I think there's actually a

1307
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,480
really big really fundamental divide

1308
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,359
among landlords and the status quo

1309
01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:38,240
really only protects one subgroup and

1310
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,559
it's not the good landlords.

1311
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,960
As things stand now, the people getting

1312
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,520
the very best deal are the ones who

1313
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,000
benefit the most from renters being

1314
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,520
unprotected.

1315
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,599
The people who benefit the most from the

1316
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,240
status quo are the landlords who want to

1317
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,480
take advantage of people, whose business

1318
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,039
model depends on being able to evict

1319
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:01,039
people for no good reason, whose

1320
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,520
business model depends on providing

1321
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,000
substandard housing, whose whole

1322
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,480
business is just being as horrible as

1323
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,319
they can possibly get away with in order

1324
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,920
to make a buck. Good landlords. And I'm

1325
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,920
confident that lots of the folks in

1326
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,440
Slick are good landlords. Good landlords

1327
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,240
are not protected by the status quo

1328
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,039
because their own standards and ethics

1329
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:28,000
are already imposing stricter limits

1330
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,880
than the new law would. If you are

1331
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,520
already using eviction only as a last

1332
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,480
resort, if you are already worrying

1333
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,319
every time you have to raise the rent to

1334
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:41,200
cover your costs. If you're already

1335
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,440
making sure that the heat actually works

1336
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,680
and the dryer gets fixed in a reasonable

1337
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,319
amount of time, then your personal

1338
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:50,960
standards are already higher than the

1339
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,720
standards that this law would apply to

1340
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,240
you. But decent landlords are competing

1341
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,799
in a marketplace with people who do not

1342
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:00,640
have high personal or professional

1343
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,359
standards. Decent landlords are

1344
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:05,440
competing in a marketplace with people

1345
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520
who treat tenants like scum and

1346
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,400
properties like trash. And I know that

1347
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,119
my neighbors in Slick know probably way

1348
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,680
better than I do exactly which landlords

1349
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,000
I'm talking about. And those are the

1350
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,799
landlords who are protected now. Those

1351
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,880
are the landlords who will win if

1352
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,000
Skenctity chooses not to opt in to to

1353
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,319
good cause. And so I would invite my

1354
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,880
neighbors who are good landlords, who

1355
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,199
know that nobody would describe them as

1356
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:36,000
slum lords to look very closely at

1357
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,880
what's actually in the good cause law.

1358
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,839
And then to ask yourselves, who exactly

1359
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:44,400
does it benefit for our city to keep

1360
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:53,349
giving slum lords a pass? Thank you.

1361
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,950
[Applause]

1362
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,560
» I'm not sure the first name, the last

1363
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:07,510
name. Suk Dwan.

1364
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,040
» Mr. Mayor Counelors,

1365
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,839
good evening.

1366
01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:16,880
Good cause eviction would bring more

1367
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,080
hardship on landlord.

1368
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,239
As it stands,

1369
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,480
most tenant

1370
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:27,839
remain in their rented apartment without

1371
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:31,839
paying rent for at least six month. That

1372
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,480
is what it stands now.

1373
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:36,640
How are the landlord going to maintain

1374
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,839
their property and go on? And if we make

1375
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:43,279
it worse, what would happen?

1376
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,120
Many

1377
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,520
tenants are deliberately withholding

1378
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,159
their rent because they know they can

1379
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:52,719
stay in an apartment for 6 months

1380
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:55,760
without paying any rent and then they go

1381
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,000
find another one and the system continue

1382
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:04,470
like that. We observe those pattern.

1383
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:08,239
If the good cause eviction is accepted

1384
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:12,000
by the city of Skenctity,

1385
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,080
tenants would abuse the privilege.

1386
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,120
Landlord would not be paid their rent.

1387
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,760
As a result,

1388
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,480
they would not be able to

1389
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,520
maintain their property. Skenctity would

1390
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,000
once again deteriorated like it used to

1391
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,760
be before.

1392
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,880
and abandoned building would abong once

1393
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,560
again. Thank you.

1394
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,560
>> Thank you,

1395
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:43,040
[Applause]

1396
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:49,750
>> Chris Morris.

1397
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:56,870
Look what I got.

1398
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,880
» Good evening everyone. Can you hear me?

1399
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,280
>> Yes.

1400
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,320
>> This is too high for me.

1401
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:07,189
Don't get old, you get shorter.

1402
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:09,760
» My name is Chris Morris. I'm the founder

1403
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,159
and director of Slick

1404
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:16,080
Connectity landlords influencing change.

1405
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,320
We are the only organized group of small

1406
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,560
landlords, realtors, and property

1407
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,760
managers in the city. And our ultimate

1408
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,239
goal has always been to provide

1409
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:30,960
education, information, and updated data

1410
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,040
on how to properly run properties,

1411
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,080
rental properties. That is always

1412
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,040
strictly our goal, our main goal. There

1413
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,960
are three major factors in the housing

1414
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,760
rental equation. First, the rental

1415
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,840
property itself.

1416
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,080
Second, the owner of the property. and

1417
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,040
third, who the owner chooses to live

1418
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,640
there.

1419
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,600
It should be clear that a much larger

1420
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,600
investment is made by that property

1421
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,640
owner and taxpayer

1422
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,320
when there is a problem with upkeep,

1423
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,040
repairs, trash removal, trash removal,

1424
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,600
code violations.

1425
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,520
It's the owner's responsibility to

1426
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,600
comply even if the problem is caused by

1427
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,800
the tenant and it's his expense.

1428
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,760
Without question, we agree that tenants

1429
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,159
should be provided safe, affordable

1430
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:24,400
housing. And of course, that affording

1431
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,040
is determined when you're signing your

1432
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,960
lease or when you're you're getting on

1433
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,640
board with the property before you move

1434
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,239
in. So, the stability of the housing

1435
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:37,199
depends largely on the tenants's ability

1436
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:40,960
to coexist within the home and abide by

1437
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,800
the terms of a signed rental agreement.

1438
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,239
Certainly, the owner is continually

1439
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,400
bombarded with rules and regulations and

1440
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,600
requirements and spiraling expenses by

1441
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,560
both the city and the state and the

1442
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,199
material and service providers.

1443
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:02,320
Bottom line, owning and operating a

1444
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,600
rental property is a business and should

1445
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,960
be understood as such. Property owners

1446
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,280
should have the right to determine who

1447
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,560
lives and continues to live in their

1448
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,640
properties.

1449
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,199
We urge the council to hold off on this

1450
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,440
good cause and give Slick the

1451
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:24,640
opportunity to get back on track with

1452
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,040
that proposed preferred properties

1453
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,880
program.

1454
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,600
a collaborative that was designed by a

1455
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,800
task force of city and Slick officials

1456
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,120
which features both a required landlord

1457
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,159
and tenant training program and Slick

1458
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,880
membership and meeting attendance. In

1459
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,679
return, landlords would be recognized as

1460
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:47,600
a preferred properties on a preferred

1461
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,120
properties list that would be made

1462
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,800
available and recently I heard that that

1463
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,239
was something that tenants would be

1464
01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:54,000
looking for. Who are the good

1465
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,400
properties? Who are the considered good

1466
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,640
by the city? and you would be uh that

1467
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,480
would be made available to you by the

1468
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,520
city. Participants would also be

1469
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,280
eligible for some yet to be determined

1470
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,199
incentives such as maybe some reduc

1471
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:09,199
reduced price of required rental

1472
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:11,840
certificates. And one last thing, for

1473
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,440
some reason I been affected by this. Why

1474
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,760
is it that only the tenant seems to be

1475
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,000
considered people? For some reason, I

1476
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,239
hear people re in regarding to tenants

1477
01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:24,960
by themselves and by others as well. It

1478
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,440
must be stated that small landlords are

1479
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,239
people too. They are hardworking

1480
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:32,159
investors in our city. They have

1481
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:34,239
families. They have hopes and dreams for

1482
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:36,960
their future. And they deserve respect

1483
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,320
and work hard to survive and provide.

1484
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:40,960
Thank you.

1485
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,440
>> Thank you,

1486
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:47,840
[Applause]

1487
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,910
>> Pearl. Ha.

1488
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,679
» Could you hear me?

1489
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:55,840
Yes, I could hear you.

1490
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,560
>> Good evening,

1491
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,640
>> Pearla.

1492
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,920
>> Good evening, Madame Chair, council

1493
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,760
members and mayor. My name is Pearla.

1494
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,679
I'm here to speak to urge you say no to

1495
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:13,120
good cause eviction. First of all, the

1496
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,400
vast majority of landlords are

1497
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,760
incentivized to keep landlord in their

1498
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,280
homes simply because it provides stable

1499
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:29,679
income and avoids very costly vacancies.

1500
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:32,800
Secondly, there are already legal

1501
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,880
protections in place for retaliatory

1502
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,400
evictions and unsafe housing.

1503
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,080
New York State Real Property Law Section

1504
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,480
223B

1505
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,080
explicitly prohibits retaliatory

1506
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,600
evictions.

1507
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,280
New York State Real Play Law Section

1508
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,280
235B

1509
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,199
ensures that landlords must maintain

1510
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:09,199
livable, safe, and sanitary conditions.

1511
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,960
Therefore, strengthening enforcement of

1512
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,600
current laws makes sense then upending

1513
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,960
the tenant and landlord relationship.

1514
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:21,679
Thank you.

1515
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:24,620
>> Thank you,

1516
01:16:24,620 --> 01:16:28,560
[Applause]

1517
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,520
>> Mina. Badu.

1518
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,830
>> Mina bedu.

1519
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,520
» Mina.

1520
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,040
>> Okay.

1521
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,189
Is she still here?

1522
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:54,390
» Okay, Steve Markham.

1523
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,320
» Good evening to all. I appreciate your

1524
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,719
time and attention here. Uh, my name is

1525
01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:00,560
Steve Markham. I am a member of Slick,

1526
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,480
but I'm speaking for myself tonight as

1527
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,199
well. I am urging you to vote no on the

1528
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:07,760
good cause eviction law. I see this as a

1529
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,600
New York City mandate to deal with the

1530
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,840
issues that this bill addresses there

1531
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,840
and I really have my doubts to its

1532
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,760
actual significance in the city of

1533
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,560
Skenctity. We now have city codes,

1534
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,880
rental inspections with a landlord

1535
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,120
registry to help weed out the less than

1536
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,440
adequate apartments. There is a landlord

1537
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,280
and tenant training available through

1538
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,000
SCAP and other entities that oversee our

1539
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,920
commitment to provide safe, stable

1540
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,040
housing and educate both. Uh, I would

1541
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,280
prefer to see the city's plan landlord

1542
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,080
registry program have the opportunity to

1543
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,120
refine and help remedy the issues rather

1544
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,000
than a knee-jerk situation brought to

1545
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,920
the attention of the city council by a

1546
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,920
paid activist and a group from Albany

1547
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,440
wanting us to jump in the boat with

1548
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:54,320
them. I have been a rental home provider

1549
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,360
for 25 years in Hamilton Hill. I rent

1550
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,440
five apartments out and I've lived in

1551
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:03,040
one for 18 years. Um,

1552
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,199
the three two family houses I have were

1553
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:07,679
all previously boarded up, as was most

1554
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:09,760
of the street. The rents I currently

1555
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,760
charge are far below the section 8

1556
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,760
rental allowances and do not even

1557
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,840
compare to New York City rents and

1558
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,320
quality of units offered. Such as

1559
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,080
tenants need a good, stable, and

1560
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,480
affordable place to call home. We need

1561
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:25,760
good, stable tenant to afford us the

1562
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,560
capacity to provide, do the necessary

1563
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,040
repairs, and come out more ahead than

1564
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,600
not. As of last Thursday, I currently

1565
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,360
have a water mane leak that is being

1566
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,360
addressed. There is no procrastinating

1567
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,520
on an issue like this. The price tag

1568
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,520
$5,500.

1569
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,840
Eviction when necessary is not used

1570
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,719
hastily by any landlord as it is an

1571
01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:49,679
expensive and timeconsuming prospect.

1572
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:51,679
always leaves us with an enormous

1573
01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:54,159
cleanup and rehab afterward. Not to

1574
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,159
mention the incredible personal stress

1575
01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:59,520
and anxiety and in some cases fear and

1576
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,520
actual retaliation.

1577
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,600
Not to mention the loss of income while

1578
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,840
the cost and time and funding come out

1579
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,640
of our pockets and any savings we have

1580
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,960
managed to acquire towards maintenance.

1581
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,640
Quite a few of our landlords in this

1582
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,120
city have followed this recipe. Invested

1583
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,520
literally blood, sweat, and tears,

1584
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,840
family money, credit card debt, mortgage

1585
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,960
debt, pay skinnity city and school taxes

1586
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,679
while improving the over 115year-old

1587
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:28,400
housing stock in the existing Skenctity

1588
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,719
communities in order to create some form

1589
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:32,960
of wealth and in my case the only

1590
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,080
retirement I am looking forward aside

1591
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,960
from social security. We have skin in

1592
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,840
the game. And lastly, I not I do not

1593
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,000
believe a worthy and realistic due

1594
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,400
diligence has been performed for the

1595
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,120
rate of perceived occurrences that this

1596
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,679
new law will impact. Help very few, if

1597
01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:53,840
any, and have adverse effects on

1598
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,760
potential tenants looking for a place to

1599
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,000
call home while quality housing

1600
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,920
providers contemplate staying in

1601
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,320
business, re-evaluate selling, and

1602
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,400
changing course. Should this be passed

1603
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,560
by the city council, I would request

1604
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,199
that Mayor McCarthy veto it and have the

1605
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,840
city council be profess be professional

1606
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,719
and do a real study that we can revisit

1607
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:17,040
next year. Thank you.

1608
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,280
>> Thank you.

1609
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:24,470
[Applause]

1610
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:30,310
» Last name Husan. Han.

1611
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,960
Last name Husan.

1612
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,400
Uh, no, that's not you, sir.

1613
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:48,709
>> Nan.

1614
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:50,560
» Good evening.

1615
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,320
My name is Fadila Hussein.

1616
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,040
[Music]

1617
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,880
Good evening.

1618
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,280
My name is Fidila Hussein. I'm a small

1619
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,920
landlord in Skenctity. And do you know

1620
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,640
what landlord need most in their

1621
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,520
business? Tenants. We are happy to

1622
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,600
provide tenants with safe and decent

1623
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,080
housing as proven by the rental

1624
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,880
certificate. We want long-term tenants

1625
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,960
who will show care and pride in their

1626
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,440
units. So why would we want to evict our

1627
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:23,199
tenants? We are not we are not in the

1628
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,679
business to do evictions. This is our

1629
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:28,480
last resort to regain possession of our

1630
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:31,120
property. Eviction cost us money, time,

1631
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,679
and stress. Both landlord and tenants

1632
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:36,080
have an agreement through a lease. So,

1633
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,480
what is good cause eviction? What's the

1634
01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:40,560
reason for this proposal? And what is

1635
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,280
the benefit? Any violation to the lease

1636
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,080
is a good cause for eviction. However,

1637
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,920
some violations cannot be proven in

1638
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,640
court. Example, if the lease say no pet

1639
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,960
and there is obviously pet in the

1640
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,120
building, a dog in the building, how can

1641
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,520
we prove that the dog moved in? Another

1642
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,520
example we face is more people moving

1643
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,719
after the lease is agreed upon.

1644
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:04,719
They are seen there over a period of

1645
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:07,440
time. They suble and collect money from

1646
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,239
these illegal residents. How can we

1647
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:13,679
prove this is violation to the lease?

1648
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,679
Then they destroy the property. I have

1649
01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:19,440
seen beds set up in the basement.

1650
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,440
Us landlords want to be protected from

1651
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:24,400
these devious and unethical behaviors.

1652
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,600
And how do we get these extra names of

1653
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,000
these illegal residents?

1654
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,320
The sheriff need all the names for a

1655
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,040
lockout. This is why good cause eviction

1656
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,600
is a threat to landlords.

1657
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,440
The authorities making these rules

1658
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:42,000
against us has no idea of our struggles.

1659
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,400
They take away our ability to manage our

1660
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,639
business. I had a tenant behind four

1661
01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:48,639
months in rent. She had a roof leak did

1662
01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:50,480
not inform me. The roof cave in and she

1663
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:53,360
called codes. codes issue issue a notice

1664
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,560
to vacate. This notice is meaningless

1665
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,400
because the tenants still continue to

1666
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,639
live there and code does nothing about

1667
01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:03,199
this. They don't even enforce their own

1668
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:05,679
notice. How unprofessional and

1669
01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:08,239
disrespectful to us. It took nine months

1670
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,560
to finally get her out with zero rent

1671
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,280
for nine months while I had lawyer fees,

1672
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,280
late payments of mortgage, taxes,

1673
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,760
insurance, all with penalty. But we

1674
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,480
collect late fees. But we cannot collect

1675
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,880
late fees in an eviction. They left

1676
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,639
almost every this these tenants left

1677
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:27,120
almost everything behind. Caused me to

1678
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,600
dispose of it plus repairs the floors,

1679
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,679
bathroom, replace kitchen cabinets,

1680
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:34,159
toilet, sink, and refrigerator. This was

1681
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:36,800
only one of my experiences with tenants.

1682
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,719
I have had others over the years,

1683
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:42,080
including verbal and physical abuse. How

1684
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,600
can we survive like this? I vote no to

1685
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:52,629
good cause eviction. Thank you.

1686
01:23:52,639 --> 01:24:05,270
» Tom Kennedy.

1687
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,120
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor, City Council.

1688
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,040
Name's Tom Kennedy. I'm a chair of the

1689
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,400
Republican party. I stand to oppose this

1690
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,199
good cause eviction. I'm not a home. I'm

1691
01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:17,920
not a landlord, but I represent many.

1692
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Um, I'm going to do a little walk

1693
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,080
through of little history for maybe some

1694
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,120
people that weren't here as long as some

1695
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,840
of us were. There was a time in which we

1696
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,840
walked through the city and every other

1697
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:35,920
house was boarded up. uh and uh the gy

1698
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,080
people came from New York City, spent

1699
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:42,159
their time, energies, and capital and

1700
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:43,760
basically rebuilt a lot of the city of

1701
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,159
Skenctity. Um that's just the truth of

1702
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:50,719
it. Um Mr. Hz, I'd like to I'd like to

1703
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:54,159
repeat his uh testimony because it it

1704
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,560
means something. Uh he's lived here.

1705
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,480
He's been a part of the community that

1706
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:02,000
has rebuilt Skenctity. Uh so we hear

1707
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,840
tonight a lot of different things a lot

1708
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,400
of everybody has a lot of stats and a

1709
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,719
lot of you know different uh things that

1710
01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:10,320
you know let's say you know figures

1711
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,080
lying liars figure that's it's an old

1712
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,199
saying so we have 11 cities in the city

1713
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:18,719
in in New York state that has this um we

1714
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:20,880
have 944

1715
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,960
cities and towns

1716
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,600
so um just want to make make that clear

1717
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,880
we also have said that um there's no

1718
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,239
there's been No um no reports or no

1719
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,080
problems. Well, you go to Wall Street

1720
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,840
Journal

1721
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,520
and I apologize for doing this, but uh

1722
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,080
Wall Street Journal

1723
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,040
uh June 26, 2025,

1724
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,040
New Yorkers vote to make their housing

1725
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,120
shortage worse. Well, I I can I can uh

1726
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,719
attest that is what's going to happen to

1727
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:55,520
the city of Skenctity. These these these

1728
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,880
landlords are going to say it's not

1729
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,840
worth it. Uh they we They they've had

1730
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,560
tax increases of 3% this year. You guys

1731
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,440
know you did it. Um you got garbage fees

1732
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:09,440
that went up. Now I mean these fees and

1733
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:10,960
on top of what Mr. Markham said about

1734
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,480
fixing his property and having to do

1735
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,120
that, those are real expenses. You can't

1736
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,639
walk away from those. So you know their

1737
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:21,760
expenses are going up and so therefore

1738
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,080
the rents are going up. Now here's the

1739
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,400
other problem that you have is in CSK.

1740
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,639
We can't build our way out of the the

1741
01:26:28,639 --> 01:26:30,880
housing shortage. Can't do it. So,

1742
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,239
they're going to build this huge place

1743
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:34,159
out in St. Clair's. They're going to be

1744
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:36,400
240 apartments. They're all going to be

1745
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,360
about 700 to,000 square ft. So, that

1746
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,760
means you're going to have one family uh

1747
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,120
not even one family in there. They're

1748
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,280
basically studio apartments. So, the

1749
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,480
studio and those studio apartment,

1750
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,320
they're going to be about $2,000 a

1751
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,520
piece. Well, what do you think that's

1752
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,280
going to do to the housing market or the

1753
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,120
rental market? Boom. They're going to go

1754
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,600
up. So, I mean, you know, and if you

1755
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,000
look in into our all our hotels

1756
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,400
downtown, they're all full of DSS

1757
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:01,679
recipients because they can't find

1758
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:04,560
places. So,

1759
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,760
I agree with Mr. Markham, Mr. Hz. We've

1760
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,159
got to take a pause here before we do

1761
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:13,120
anything that can really do irreparable

1762
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,520
harm to the city of of Skenctity. You

1763
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,159
guys have that power and I I suggest

1764
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:20,400
that you look at the preferred uh

1765
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,239
properties list uh that the mayor is

1766
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:23,840
working on with that with the task

1767
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,880
force. That may be a I don't know. I

1768
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,800
don't know enough about it. But I uh

1769
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,920
thank you madam Porterfield for

1770
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,800
indulging me after the time. And uh I

1771
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,320
just think that it's time everybody

1772
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,080
starts working together here and fixing

1773
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,920
this problem because it's going to get

1774
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,320
bad very quick if we do something that

1775
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,920
not is not good for everybody. Thank

1776
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,040
you. Thank you.

1777
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,520
[Applause]

1778
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,320
Heat.

1779
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,000
>> Hey, Hemat.

1780
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:13,430
No. Okay, no worries. Um, Mike Dorenzo.

1781
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,600
Good evening, mayor, council president,

1782
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,120
council members. This is the first time

1783
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,840
I've appeared before you. You cannot

1784
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,600
hear me. You're going to hear me. Good

1785
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,360
evening, mayor, council president,

1786
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,360
council members.

1787
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,880
There's no good cause to pass this bill.

1788
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,280
The tenants already are afforded many

1789
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,760
venues to air their grievances. They

1790
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,480
have the court system. In many cases, if

1791
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:41,600
qualified, it's free. It's not free to

1792
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,360
us.

1793
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,040
They can report their agreements as the

1794
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,840
code. They can make sure the apartment

1795
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,320
has a rental certificate before renting

1796
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,320
it.

1797
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,159
I don't understand how some people come

1798
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:56,159
here and testify that they've been

1799
01:28:56,159 --> 01:29:00,000
evicted many times.

1800
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,400
No property owner evicts a good partner.

1801
01:29:06,410 --> 01:29:10,239
[Applause]

1802
01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:15,040
The goal is to keep a good partner.

1803
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,080
I use the term partner because it is

1804
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,880
what they are. They are partners.

1805
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,830
It is not a one-way street.

1806
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,159
The eviction process is long, arduous,

1807
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:32,960
and expensive. Eviction is the last

1808
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,960
resort.

1809
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,360
Landlords have to follow arduous

1810
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,880
procedures.

1811
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,360
I no longer interview prospective

1812
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,719
partners. I can't ask them have they

1813
01:29:44,719 --> 01:29:48,560
been evicted. I can't ask them if they

1814
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,719
are felons. I don't know what are the

1815
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:53,120
things I can't ask to protect my

1816
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,280
property. So I hire a professional that

1817
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,040
costs.

1818
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,040
The eviction process is so cumbersome

1819
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,120
that I no longer do it.

1820
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,120
I've only used the court system once in

1821
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,920
30 years, and I have a worthless

1822
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,320
judgment for $1,200.

1823
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,880
I will sell it to any council member for

1824
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:19,110
$1.

1825
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,080
Therefore, I must hire a lawyer

1826
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:27,270
more money.

1827
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,960
Don't add another regulation to an

1828
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,400
already overburdened business. Don't

1829
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,199
make me raise my rent to my good

1830
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:41,360
partners to compensate for the bad. Good

1831
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,239
partners don't deserve this. Thank you

1832
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:44,960
for your time.

1833
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,300
>> Thank you,

1834
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:50,159
[Applause]

1835
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:58,390
>> Rocky Palmer.

1836
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,120
Hi, mayor, council.

1837
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,120
>> Hi, mayor, council president, and the

1838
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,080
council members. Um, I just want to

1839
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,960
address a few things I keep hearing. Um,

1840
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,560
there are already already baseline

1841
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,239
protections from New York State and the

1842
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:14,800
city. Um,

1843
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,199
I heard something about lead levels and

1844
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:20,000
um, apartments. As soon as a lead level

1845
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,080
is registered, the county is notified.

1846
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,000
They notify the property owner. I'm

1847
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,920
speaking from experience.

1848
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,719
Um, let's just say they make sure that

1849
01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:31,040
the problem is rectified.

1850
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,800
Um,

1851
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,080
I read all 16 pages

1852
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,600
of the of the law

1853
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,000
and um,

1854
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,600
there's not one sentence about bad

1855
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,199
tenants.

1856
01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:48,639
the tenants who abuse constantly abuse

1857
01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:50,400
the system,

1858
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,960
destroy property,

1859
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,560
and um make the landlord and ultimately

1860
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,679
the good tenants pay more. Not one

1861
01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:01,120
sentence, and I don't think I've heard

1862
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,639
anybody from the other side bring it up.

1863
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:06,320
And I just find it surprising in all

1864
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,280
this law here, there's not one reference

1865
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,440
to

1866
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:13,520
dealing with these bad tenants. and we

1867
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,159
all have our stories. Uh I would urge

1868
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:18,560
you to vote no. I just think the bottom

1869
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,639
line is good cause will allow tenants to

1870
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,320
challenge

1871
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,080
um an eviction just meaning again longer

1872
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,440
court times and just more unpaid rent

1873
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,440
and it will just mean higher uh rents

1874
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,360
for future tenants. Thank you.

1875
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:42,149
>> Thank you.

1876
01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:48,550
Okay, this um not uh Chem

1877
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:55,430
last name. It's really hard to to

1878
01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:02,950
Chemraj.

1879
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,520
» Good evening everyone.

1880
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,560
Uh most of my brothers and sisters say

1881
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,639
what I had in mind but it have good and

1882
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:15,440
bad in all. You have good tenants, you

1883
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,520
have good landlords. They are slum lards

1884
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,560
too and they're bad tenants too.

1885
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,280
For example, I know in a guy right

1886
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,440
through my street where I live. He

1887
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,840
didn't had rent for 6 months. He had to

1888
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,920
go through all the eviction process to

1889
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,639
get the guy out. lose six months rent

1890
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:34,800
plus they throw the garbage out on the

1891
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,120
street and obviously we got to pay to

1892
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,040
remove the garbage because the city of

1893
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:44,000
Sket passed that. So I'm just trying to

1894
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,080
say no.

1895
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,760
All right. Thank you.

1896
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,240
>> Thank you.

1897
01:33:52,250 --> 01:33:55,280
[Applause]

1898
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,270
Raymond Player.

1899
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» Raymond Player.

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First of all, I don't know enough about

1901
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all this good cause, bad cause stuff,

1902
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but I hear everybody's story and I just

1903
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,000
feel like there's a lot of division and

1904
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it needs to come to an agreement because

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at the end of the day, everyone's going

1906
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to lose. I don't care what anybody says

1907
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because like you said, you fighting

1908
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against them building apartments. They

1909
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building apartments every day. So, your

1910
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property doesn't really even matter. So,

1911
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And that's what I'm saying. So there's

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Hello. So it's just a lot of stuff where

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if y'all don't come to an agreement,

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it's going to be a lose-lose situation

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for everybody. And and that's all I

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could say is I can't pick no sides. I

1917
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hear the story, but it's no

1918
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it's just bad. It's already bad, you

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know, and that's the main point of the

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whole thing. So if y'all don't get it

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together, then everybody's going to

1922
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move. There's people that got money that

1923
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live here and don't like the

1924
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neighborhood. Not because the landlord,

1925
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not because the tenant, because of

1926
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everything else that's failing. And a

1927
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lot of the issues is coming from the

1928
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city that nobody's addressing with the

1929
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city. So they taking out on each other.

1930
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So they fighting each other. They

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causing a riff with each other. They got

1932
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to live next door to each other. But

1933
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their main problem is with the city. So

1934
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until they start addressing things with

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the city, then they always going to have

1936
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this problem. They always going to have

1937
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this riff. They're always going to have

1938
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this beef. They always going to feel

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like they can't do enough and somebody

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else going to do enough. While y'all

1941
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arguing and complaining, somebody else

1942
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is building and somebody else is moving

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in and somebody going to continue to

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move in. Just like all these apartments

1945
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that's coming. So everybody's getting

1946
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older and nobody's getting younger. So

1947
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your retirement is easily going out the

1948
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window. Everything that you're holding

1949
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on to is easily going out the window. I

1950
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don't speak for everybody. I speak for

1951
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myself. I speak how I see things. I'm

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not following no crowd because what

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worked for him is not going to work for

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me. how he treats somebody is not how I

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treat somebody. I'm not following nobody

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but myself. So,

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you know, everybody got groups,

1958
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coalitions, committees, but it's all

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failing because no one's fighting the

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real fight are the people they need to

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fight with.

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Thank you,

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» Dan Benian.

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» Good evening. Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

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Uh, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Dan

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Bennison. I'm an attorney here in

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Skenctity. I've been practicing in

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eviction court for more than 11 years. I

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know both sides because in my first

1970
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three years I worked for legal aid on

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the tenant side. After I got sick and

1972
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tired of politics, I got out and I

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started on my own. Now I work for

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landlords. So I know both sides both uh side of the stories. Now uh my

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prior interlocator had a very good

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point.

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uh in in the current situation okay uh

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if we are keep fighting each other will

1979
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be a lose lose situation everybody will

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lose and let me tell you why because

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right now the good cause eviction

1982
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doesn't what does for sure it will make

1983
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harder for a tenant to be evicted that's

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true but the other point of the story

1985
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the other side of the story is that also

1986
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this good cause eviction will make

1987
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harder for a tenant to get in. Why?

1988
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Because nobody's stupid. Uh all these

1989
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increased costs which are due to uh

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increase in time frame that you have to

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evict the tenant, increase in lawyer

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fee, all these costs will be passed on

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the tenant. It's exactly like minimum wage per economy. They ask for

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$15 minimum wage. All those increase are

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01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,960
passed by the to the consumers because

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all the products were increased. The

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same will happen here. So for now on I

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believe everything is fair and we have

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three great judges here and uh this

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court can be named uh a fair uh moderate

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liberal court. Uh I have been practicing

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in this court like I said for uh at

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least seven years even more and I have

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not heard uh any of these judges to deny

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a retaliation claim. Always when the

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tenant claims retaliation, there's

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always a hearing. And good side of the

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story is this court is not congested by

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like Albany court. I practice in Albany

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court as well. And people said it's not

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congested. Oh yes, I tell you as a fact.

2012
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If you ask for a trial in Albany, you

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will get a trial in October. Here is

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connected. You'll get a trial in 30

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days. And all these judges that like it

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or not because again uh uh uh you cannot

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uh you have to obey what the judge is

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telling you to do. Like it or not the

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judge is giving you a decision right

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there on the spot. They don't take 60

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more days to render a decision. And of

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course all these 60 days and all these

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three, four, five months the tenants are

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not paying rent and of course the

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landlords are prejudiced and this

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creates friction.

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uh friction which cannot be easily

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repaired and also what this good cause

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eviction does it takes away our ability

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to have friendly settlements. Why?

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Okay. So I'll be short. Uh I I I urge

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the committee to vote no on this uh uh

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law because again it damages both sides.

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So that's it. Thank you so much for your

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attention.

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Colin McName Colin McNamer.

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Hello again, folks. I've learned a lot

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tonight, including that I'm a paid

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activist. So, if someone has my check,

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please send it to my home. I would

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appreciate it.

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All right. I just want to emphasize just

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how little we're asking for here. I

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really can't emphasize this enough.

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Earlier today uh we heard a stat I

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believe Sean it was I believe it was my

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friend Sean had it here that of no sorry

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it was Ellie we have uh about oneif of

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evictions in this court are holdover

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evictions okay so that's 20% which means

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80% are non-payments there might be a

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very small percentage of illegal

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activity evictions which are a separate

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category but probably close to 80% are

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non-payments

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what's really not affected by good cause

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eviction y'all

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non-payment evictions only if it is a

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massive rent hike. Presuming that that's

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not happening, if it's just a person who

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just fell behind on rent and honestly

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not affected by good cause eviction.

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That is a number one of good cause to

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01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,280
evict a tenant. I also heard earlier

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today that there's not a word about bad

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01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,040
tenants in the good cause eviction law.

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There are so many words about bad

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tenants in the good cause eviction law.

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You can find them helpfully categorized

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under RPL 216, grounds for eviction.

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There are 10 categories that are grounds

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for eviction of tenants. They start with

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the obvious ones like non-payment of

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rent, like destruction of the property,

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like illegal activity in the property,

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and they move down to the more kind of

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weird and arcane ones like removing the

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property from the rental market or

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choosing to demolish the entire

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building. There are so many things about

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01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,920
bad tenants in the good cause eviction

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law. If you have a bad tenant, if you

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01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,600
have a tenant who's not paying rent, you

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01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,920
can get them out. This does not affect

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you.

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» We are asking for very, very little of

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you. I was not one of the people who was

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incredibly thrilled when good cause

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eviction passed at the state level

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because it wasn't the bill that we

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wanted. It is laced with compromise. The

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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,800
bill in front of you, the bill that you

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01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,440
are voting on is a product of tortured

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negotiation and compromise at the state

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level. That's why it contains so many

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exemptions. That's why it has a

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01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:28,560
relatively extensive

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uh listing of grounds for eviction.

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This will affect a relatively very

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vanishingly small number of evictions in

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the city of Skenctity. But for those

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ones that it affects, it will save their

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lives. It will keep people from being

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evicted for literally no reason simply

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because the landlord felt it like it. I

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have I I know landlord lawyers. I go I'm

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against them all the time. I too

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practice in this court. I was against

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Mr. Benzian the other day. I know I know

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how it looks in here and I can tell you

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I had a landlord lawyer a friend of

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mine, a man I respect and consider a

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friend. He told me the other day, Colin,

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there's no such thing as a as a no cause

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eviction. Every eviction has a cause

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behind it. Every even these no cause

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holdovers, which is what would be

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effective. There's always a reason.

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Well, then say it and put it in the

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court papers. We're not asking that much

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of you. Thank you. Thank you.

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[Applause]

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I have I have no one else signed up to

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speak, so I declare the public comment

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on the legislative agenda closed.

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This time ask for approval of the

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legislative consent agenda.

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>> Moved by Mr. Mutiver, second by Mr.

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Farley. All's in favor.

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>> I. All right. We do have a roll call. We

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have one resolution for roll call this

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evening and the clerk would please read

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item number two.

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» Item number two for original

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conservation.

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>> Oh, yeah. Go ahead.

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A resolution calling for a public

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hearing to create a local law for

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article 5, section 210-20

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to chapter 210 of the Skenctity city

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code, prohibition of eviction without

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good cause.

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I need a motion.

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for this to move by Mr.

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Mutarin, second by Miss Patrick.

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Is there any discussion on this item

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before the clerk calls the role?

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Mr. Farley.

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» No.

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>> So, I just wanted to uh Madam Chair, um

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thank you. I just want to say really

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briefly that uh this is this is about uh

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the public hearing

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um for good cause. Is that correct? Is

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that that we're talking? So

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>> we're not voting tonight. We're just

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asking if it's called for a public

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hearing, sir.

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>> Absolutely. So I guess I'm surprised

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that we are having a roll call um to

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talk about just a public hearing. I

2162
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:18,560
think on either side of this issue, and

2163
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,159
I think there's a lot more than two

2164
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:22,239
sides, and there's a lot of nuance here,

2165
01:45:22,239 --> 01:45:26,639
everyone would agree that a responsive

2166
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:29,040
and responsible governing body would

2167
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,040
allow

2168
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,119
time to hear voices so we can make a

2169
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:35,600
more informed decision.

2170
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,679
So, this is not voting right now for or

2171
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:43,840
against opting in. This is simply about

2172
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,679
having a public hearing and allowing the

2173
01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:47,920
public to weigh in more extensively on

2174
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,800
this issue. And I would I think it's

2175
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,000
very telling and quite frankly somewhat

2176
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,400
embarrassing that we're having that we

2177
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:57,440
think that that should be something

2178
01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:00,719
that's up for debate.

2179
01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:04,159
>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

2180
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,960
>> Okay. Clerk, please call if the clerk

2181
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,280
would please call the role.

2182
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:10,560
>> Mr. Mr. Toro,

2183
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,400
>> no.

2184
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:13,760
>> Mr. Farley,

2185
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:14,800
>> yes.

2186
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,320
>> Mr. Mancini,

2187
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,400
>> no.

2188
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:19,679
>> Mr. Mutu,

2189
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:21,040
>> no.

2190
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,040
>> Miss Patrick,

2191
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,480
>> Mr. Williams is absent. Miss

2192
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:25,360
Porterfield.

2193
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,360
>> Thank you. I'd like to explain my vote.

2194
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,440
First of all, as Mr. Farley said, "This

2195
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:31,840
is simply calling for a public hearing,

2196
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,320
giving the public an opportunity, all

2197
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,159
sides of the public, regardless of which

2198
01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:38,159
side of this issue that you're on, an

2199
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:40,560
opportunity to more than one time,

2200
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,800
because this is an issue that obviously

2201
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,520
is very uh passionate for a lot of

2202
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,320
people. So this gives the public and not

2203
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,480
only the people that we're accustomed to

2204
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:53,440
hearing from but a people that who don't

2205
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,920
normally come here are then become aware

2206
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,840
of what's going on and give those

2207
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,000
individuals an opportunity to come as

2208
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,239
well. Now we know that there well maybe

2209
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:03,679
you don't know there also has to be a

2210
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:05,360
public hearing that the mayor will have

2211
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,360
to that will have to be um before the

2212
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,760
mayor because that's how a local law is

2213
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,960
passed. So there would have been two.

2214
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,920
So, this was simply again calling for a

2215
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,960
public hearing, giving the folks that we

2216
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,400
uh represent to come before us and say

2217
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,880
whatever their whatever their position

2218
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,600
is on this. It was not this is not to

2219
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,719
pass this tonight, but simply to hear

2220
01:47:30,719 --> 01:47:33,360
from our constituents, which I I'm not

2221
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,119
really clear on why we would not want to

2222
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:37,840
do either. However, we all have a a

2223
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,360
position that we we make and um so I

2224
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,159
vote yes on passing on having the public

2225
01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:47,840
hearing. However, um the motion is

2226
01:47:47,840 --> 01:48:00,950
defeated by four to two.

2227
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,880
It's only the public hearing motion,

2228
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,639
just to be clear, that's defeated young

2229
01:48:04,639 --> 01:48:06,560
people tonight. It's only the public

2230
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,360
hearing. We still have things to do. The

2231
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,600
lake, the local law has been introduced

2232
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,600
tonight. Our corporation council

2233
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,280
explained what needs how that goes

2234
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,159
forward. So, the local law has been

2235
01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:20,159
introduced and it has to lay before the

2236
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:22,159
council for a certain certain amount of

2237
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:24,800
time. It does not mean that we have made

2238
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,639
a final decision. So I just want you all

2239
01:48:26,639 --> 01:48:31,040
to understand how that works.

2240
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:32,800
At this time we'll have privilege of the

2241
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:38,390
floor regarding general city business

2242
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,719
and I have seven people signed up to

2243
01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:43,600
speak and the first person in is Anthony

2244
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:52,390
Kurada.

2245
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,239
Good evening Mr. Mayor city council

2246
01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:56,320
madam president.

2247
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,440
Now this is just strictly my opinion. As

2248
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:03,360
a lawy citizen I stand with support and

2249
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:08,560
respect all law enforcement officers.

2250
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,400
Now

2251
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,040
for quite some time

2252
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,199
law enforcement has been getting a bad

2253
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:19,440
rep. Even though law enforcement itself

2254
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:22,080
certain brave men and women of law

2255
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,000
enforcement there has been instance

2256
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,000
where they have overcept the balance of

2257
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,880
their job now understand in certain

2258
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,400
communities where the individuals in

2259
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,800
certain communities the trust issue

2260
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,760
that's fine and dandy

2261
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,119
law enforcement for six years now has

2262
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:41,520
been trying to rebuild that trust with

2263
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,920
certain communities.

2264
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,440
Now Friday while you

2265
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:50,639
and your county part there in the county

2266
01:49:50,639 --> 01:49:53,040
and any government body

2267
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
will be

2268
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,360
uh public events

2269
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,239
that lately prior to that this

2270
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:04,080
government body or any government body I

2271
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,239
don't know why certain individuals and

2272
01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:10,080
government bodies want to defund the

2273
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,239
police

2274
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:13,760
If

2275
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,360
you all were to defund the police, they

2276
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,360
would not be in certain situations to

2277
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,239
deescalate. You would have so dead

2278
01:50:22,239 --> 01:50:23,520
social workers. That's where you would

2279
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,760
have a set of police officers doing

2280
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,920
their job.

2281
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,000
I understand the last time you tried to

2282
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,400
do the budget, three individuals on this

2283
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,400
council said defund the police. Why?

2284
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,239
Because you believe lies are perpetrated

2285
01:50:38,239 --> 01:50:41,920
by the media. The cop

2286
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,239
are brain men, women in law enforcement.

2287
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:45,760
Now, I could be wrong about these

2288
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,159
factors, but you can look them up if you

2289
01:50:48,159 --> 01:50:50,400
don't believe me. I forget what

2290
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,280
percentage it is, but a brave men and

2291
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,119
women law enforcement are less than

2292
01:50:55,119 --> 01:50:58,320
likely less than likely to pull a

2293
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,480
service weapon at people of color and

2294
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:02,800
Hispanic origin. They're less than

2295
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,800
likely to pull the service weapon of

2296
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,199
someone like me. Okay, those are the

2297
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:09,760
facts. And the also the thing is that

2298
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,600
prior to at that event a 14-year-old for

2299
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,040
whatever reason was trying to disrupt

2300
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,719
that law enforcement were

2301
01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:21,760
trying to deescalate the situation. That

2302
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,840
individual was trying to resist arrest.

2303
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,280
Why? Law enforcement are brave men and

2304
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,280
women in law enforcement

2305
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,360
have been doing the job will be doing

2306
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,280
the job. They're here to protect our

2307
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,000
safety from everybody. That's why

2308
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,000
Saturday I was dressed just as Chase

2309
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,119
from Paw Patrol, the police club at the

2310
01:51:41,119 --> 01:51:43,599
Comic Con there at the library. I

2311
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:46,320
respect law enforcement unlike somebody

2312
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,679
here who thinks the race that law

2313
01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:51,760
enforcement is racist when law

2314
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,080
enforcement is not racist. They're just

2315
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:55,599
doing their job.

2316
01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:58,960
>> Mr. Kurata, address the chair. Mr.

2317
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:02,950
Kurata,

2318
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,760
» watch your step. M listen. That's not

2319
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:14,790
going to happen here.

2320
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,920
Crystal Dion.

2321
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:23,030
Crystal

2322
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,520
going third time. Crystal.

2323
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:34,550
Okay. Cynthia Farmer.

2324
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,599
» Good evening.

2325
01:52:37,599 --> 01:52:40,239
Um, Madame President, mayor, and

2326
01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:42,320
council,

2327
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,480
I've heard a whole lot this this

2328
01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:48,400
evening, and um, I'm here to address the

2329
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,880
homelessness that's happening on State

2330
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,480
Street. It has become a very big

2331
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:57,679
problem. People are sleeping in the bus

2332
01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:00,800
um shelters and um people are just

2333
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,000
walking around. Our children

2334
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,719
um have to walk past that in the morning

2335
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:12,400
when they go to school. And um I just

2336
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,480
think that there's something that we

2337
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:16,239
need to do. We got to come up with some

2338
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:18,960
kind of solution for these people to be

2339
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,360
sleeping in the shelters. I talked to a

2340
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,000
young man, his name is Tony. Um he

2341
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,800
didn't have any shoes on his feet and I

2342
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,320
said, "Where's your shoes?" He said,

2343
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,040
"It's in the bus um shelter. That's

2344
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,360
where he sleeps because he was kicked

2345
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,320
out of the car house and the Bethesda

2346
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,960
house because he talks too loud." Well,

2347
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,320
the young man is deaf,

2348
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,800
can't hear. So, May Mayor McCarthy, you

2349
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:48,159
got to do something.

2350
01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:49,440
>> You have to address the chair.

2351
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:51,760
>> It's um

2352
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:55,119
dress the chair. Oh, okay. You have to

2353
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:57,199
do something about this. You got people

2354
01:53:57,199 --> 01:54:00,800
sleeping in the um cemetery.

2355
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,199
People pay for their loved ones to be

2356
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:05,360
rested there and you got people laying

2357
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,000
and sleeping on top of them. You have

2358
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:11,599
the people bring mattresses

2359
01:54:11,599 --> 01:54:14,639
in the bus shelters. They take the

2360
01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:17,360
furniture that people put out and then

2361
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,679
they take it and put I seen a whole

2362
01:54:19,679 --> 01:54:21,199
sectional

2363
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:24,560
in front of the cemetery further up

2364
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,800
where people were laying and sleeping

2365
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:28,639
all night.

2366
01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:30,880
We have to do something. We got to come

2367
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,800
up with a solution. We're building all

2368
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,360
these and then you're talking about um

2369
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,080
landlords and and the tenants and people

2370
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,159
can't afford this young man that I

2371
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:43,360
talked to. He only gets $1,300 a month.

2372
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,320
He can't afford any um rent here. We got

2373
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,320
to think of something to to do with

2374
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,400
these people. They need help. They're

2375
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,480
not going to be able to get a job. They

2376
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:54,159
can't. And then I don't understand why

2377
01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:56,880
you put the Cara House in the Bethesda

2378
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:58,320
House and they let the people sleep

2379
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,760
there and then they put them out in the

2380
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,880
morning and then they hang out all day

2381
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,960
until they can go back in at night.

2382
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,520
So we have to come up with some kind of

2383
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:16,800
solution to remed this problem. I mean I hear the other problems but you know

2384
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,320
and I don't understand this new

2385
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,040
skenctity thing. Why we have posters all

2386
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,719
up and down um 90 and all over here new

2387
01:55:24,719 --> 01:55:26,880
skenctity. When did we change our name

2388
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,080
from skenctity to new skenctity and we

2389
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,880
got all this problem. It's embarrassing

2390
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,199
to have all these people running up and

2391
01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:38,320
down their sleeping and walking up and

2392
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:43,280
down um State Street. So, thank you.

2393
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:47,109
>> Thank you,

2394
01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:56,790
» Jamaica Miles.

2395
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:58,239
I'm going to talk really fast. Y'all

2396
01:55:58,239 --> 01:55:59,520
gonna have to just deal with it. Um

2397
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:00,960
because on Friday, July 11th, the

2398
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,639
Skenctity police harassed and assaulted

2399
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:06,080
several black children um 14 years old,

2400
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,599
injured and restrained on the ground by

2401
01:56:07,599 --> 01:56:09,440
multiple officers. This happened in

2402
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,119
broad daylight at a city sponsored event

2403
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:12,480
meant for youth and families called

2404
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,480
summer night. Yes, I talked about it on

2405
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,239
Alive. That sure as hell did happen.

2406
01:56:16,239 --> 01:56:17,760
This is not a misunderstanding. This is

2407
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,280
not community safety. This is violence.

2408
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:20,719
This is system failing our children

2409
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:22,800
again and again. We will not be silent

2410
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,480
because back in May, an officer fired

2411
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:26,800
his weapon at a child who was having a

2412
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,560
mental health crisis. there was an

2413
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,080
investigation or at least the chief said

2414
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:31,520
there was going to be an investigation.

2415
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:32,880
Ain't nobody heard nothing about the

2416
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,400
investigation back in May, but we're

2417
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:35,760
going to just feel okay about what

2418
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,440
happened on last Friday. That's not

2419
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,639
going to happen. And when we turn

2420
01:56:38,639 --> 01:56:41,199
ourselves back to the good cause, thank

2421
01:56:41,199 --> 01:56:43,280
you for the honesty on telling people

2422
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:44,880
that they should just get out if they

2423
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,480
don't like their apartment that isn't

2424
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,639
habitable. And again, any expense that

2425
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:50,719
you have and can justify is allowed.

2426
01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:52,400
Both property owners and renters should

2427
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,159
be concerned with increases in fees and

2428
01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:56,159
taxes in this city. If you are willing

2429
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:58,159
to leave for being held to a standard of

2430
01:56:58,159 --> 01:57:00,880
being a good business owner, goodbye.

2431
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,800
Tenants holding rent for six months.

2432
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,560
You're waited six months. Someone waited

2433
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,000
six months before they started the

2434
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,080
eviction process. That's um an

2435
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,159
interesting business model. Um how to

2436
01:57:10,159 --> 01:57:11,840
run rental property is something that

2437
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,080
individuals say that they are teaching.

2438
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,920
Well, it's not going very well for a

2439
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,599
number of the property owners. Those

2440
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:19,760
that are doing right are doing right and

2441
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:20,880
those that are not should be held

2442
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,800
accountable. The property owner is

2443
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:24,320
responsible for the property. And if

2444
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,639
damage biz is done by the renter, they

2445
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:28,560
have the right to charge the tenant for

2446
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,880
those repairs. This doesn't go this

2447
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,199
doesn't change under good cause. Who

2448
01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:34,960
lives and continues to live in a

2449
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,960
property because you rented it to them

2450
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,880
and you changed your mind and now you

2451
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,239
don't want them to live there, but you

2452
01:57:40,239 --> 01:57:42,239
don't have a good cause. Yes, we're

2453
01:57:42,239 --> 01:57:43,599
saying that you shouldn't be able to do

2454
01:57:43,599 --> 01:57:45,599
that. The idea that we should just let

2455
01:57:45,599 --> 01:57:47,920
Slick get on task with training their

2456
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,599
property owners and not continue to move

2457
01:57:49,599 --> 01:57:51,679
forward this piece of legislation is

2458
01:57:51,679 --> 01:57:55,920
lazy and ridiculous. Yet we all want we

2459
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:57,599
all want a preferred property owner

2460
01:57:57,599 --> 01:57:59,599
list. I would have loved one for every

2461
01:57:59,599 --> 01:58:01,520
year that I had to move out of my

2462
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,080
property. No. Nobody said that they were

2463
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,000
evicted over and over again. We had to

2464
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,760
move because we didn't have quality

2465
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:09,920
apartments to live in. The vast majority

2466
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,480
of landlords are incentivized to keep

2467
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,560
people in their homes based on what?

2468
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:15,840
Tell me where are your statistics?

2469
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:17,679
Because yes, we did hear a lot of data

2470
01:58:17,679 --> 01:58:19,679
and statistics and it seems that some of

2471
01:58:19,679 --> 01:58:21,440
the council members are not taking it

2472
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,760
seriously and don't believe in credible

2473
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,920
messengers or the data that's in front

2474
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,080
of them unless it fits their current

2475
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,239
narrative. The doubts to the

2476
01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:32,639
significance of that data. I'm sorry

2477
01:58:32,639 --> 01:58:34,560
that you just don't believe math and

2478
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,320
science no matter who puts it forward if

2479
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,480
it goes against your beliefs. A landlord

2480
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,320
registry program, yes, that absolutely

2481
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:41,520
should happen. It doesn't mean that we

2482
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,440
don't move forward with good cause. the

2483
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:44,800
idea that there's a knee-jerk reaction

2484
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,119
that is as if this has not been an issue

2485
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:49,040
for years and that there was immense

2486
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:50,960
compromise around good cause and it is

2487
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,320
something that's been talked about over

2488
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,239
and over again. This is not a knee-jerk

2489
01:58:54,239 --> 01:58:56,400
reaction. It is a lastm minute call by

2490
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:57,679
some people who should have done this a

2491
01:58:57,679 --> 01:59:00,239
really long time ago. But hey, do you

2492
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:01,679
really want to have another study and

2493
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:03,199
revisit this next year because we're

2494
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:04,960
willing to sacrifice people for another

2495
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:07,520
365 days? You think it's okay to

2496
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,599
continue to kick the can and let people

2497
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:11,840
be homeless, to let individuals face

2498
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,320
retaliation for our children to be in

2499
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,000
the most transient city that one can

2500
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:17,760
imagine? Because that would make you a

2501
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:19,199
really good representative. Why wouldn't

2502
01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:22,800
it? The idea that we were not even

2503
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,239
willing to have a hearing, you would

2504
01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:29,920
deny people the right to be heard. Why?

2505
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,360
Because we're going to show up anyways.

2506
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,440
Is that what it is? We shouldn't have

2507
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,920
some type of formal hearing from

2508
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,840
individuals giving them another chance

2509
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,320
to be heard on an issue that is good for

2510
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:43,280
the majority of sketity. That is

2511
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,679
absolutely and yes, I'm going to say it

2512
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:48,639
deplorable. And with that, may God bless

2513
01:59:48,639 --> 01:59:50,320
you and keep you because y'all need

2514
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:51,920
prayer.

2515
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:58,310
>> Thank you,

2516
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,159
Valerie.

2517
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:06,310
Triano. Triano. Valerie.

2518
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:09,119
Hello again. I'm just here to sign up to

2519
02:00:09,119 --> 02:00:11,199
speak.

2520
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:12,639
Oh god. I'm sorry. I'm I'm kind of

2521
02:00:12,639 --> 02:00:16,560
winging this one. Um, so bear with me.

2522
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:20,560
So I'm here to state

2523
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,199
shame on Skenctity Police Department for

2524
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:26,719
what they did to a child during summer

2525
02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:28,560
night.

2526
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,119
Police are supposed to be trained on

2527
02:00:31,119 --> 02:00:33,920
nonviolent deescalation. And I last I

2528
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:35,520
checked, I don't think nonviolent

2529
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,320
deescalation includes slamming a child

2530
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:39,920
on the ground where they hit their head

2531
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:43,679
on the pavement. And also,

2532
02:00:43,679 --> 02:00:46,800
I would like Mayor McCarthy to hold

2533
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,080
those officers accountable for

2534
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:54,320
assaulting a minor. These are 14year-old

2535
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:57,440
boys. How would you feel if a man who

2536
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,599
had the power to be okay and get away

2537
02:01:01,599 --> 02:01:04,800
was shooting somebody with a gun to slam

2538
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,199
your 14-year-old child on the ground?

2539
02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:11,920
You wouldn't like it, now would you? So,

2540
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:16,560
hold those officers accountable. And

2541
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,599
if you don't, just remember, we the

2542
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:22,159
people are the ones who vote you guys

2543
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:24,239
in. and we can kick you out of your

2544
02:01:24,239 --> 02:01:26,159
seats.

2545
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:29,760
Keep that in mind. Shame on the police

2546
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:33,760
department and hold those

2547
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,639
minor assaulters accountable. And a

2548
02:01:36,639 --> 02:01:40,000
grown man should never lay their hands

2549
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,679
on a child. Never

2550
02:01:43,679 --> 02:01:46,000
hold them accountable.

2551
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,760
And to the landlords who keep

2552
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,080
complaining today, I'm going to give

2553
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:52,800
them a little piece of advice, which is

2554
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:56,000
pull your boots up with a bootstrap and

2555
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:57,679
get a second or a third job. If you

2556
02:01:57,679 --> 02:02:00,639
can't afford all of this, just do what

2557
02:02:00,639 --> 02:02:02,560
everybody always tells us people who

2558
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,719
complain about being poor, which is get

2559
02:02:04,719 --> 02:02:08,639
an actual job and a third or second job.

2560
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:11,040
That's what when my father was

2561
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:13,520
struggling with rent, that's what my

2562
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,679
grandmother told him. Stop complaining.

2563
02:02:15,679 --> 02:02:18,480
Stop mooching and leeching off of us to

2564
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,679
help you pay your rent and get a second

2565
02:02:21,679 --> 02:02:24,159
or third job. That's what I've done when

2566
02:02:24,159 --> 02:02:27,199
I start started with New York State Tax

2567
02:02:27,199 --> 02:02:30,400
and Finance and they you could get no

2568
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,400
pay for five weeks because of the

2569
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,440
processing. I pulled myself up with the

2570
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:37,280
bootstrap and got a second job and I

2571
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:41,360
worked seven days a week. I worked

2572
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,520
during the week for New York State and

2573
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,520
then on the weekends I did Instacart. I

2574
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,119
pulled myself up by the bootstraps. I

2575
02:02:47,119 --> 02:02:48,960
made sure I was getting income in for

2576
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:52,159
those months. That one five weeks I

2577
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:54,159
would not have income coming in. Did I

2578
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:56,480
complain? No. I pulled myself up the

2579
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,719
bootstraps. So landlords, get a second

2580
02:03:00,719 --> 02:03:03,599
income. Get a second or a third job just

2581
02:03:03,599 --> 02:03:06,880
like everybody tells us to do. I heard

2582
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:09,040
your laugh.

2583
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:09,920
Thank you.

2584
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:12,160
>> Thank you,

2585
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:18,070
[Applause]

2586
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,719
Shamina Bong.

2587
02:03:20,719 --> 02:03:23,440
Shimina Bong, is she still here?

2588
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:33,589
>> Okay, thank you. Terry Robin.

2589
02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:38,000
Hi. Um I'm just um I don't know. I I

2590
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,719
read the articles in the paper recently

2591
02:03:40,719 --> 02:03:43,679
about how this is working in other

2592
02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:47,360
cities including Albany, Hudson, New

2593
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,679
York City, other places and it seemed as

2594
02:03:49,679 --> 02:03:51,599
if there it was working pretty well this

2595
02:03:51,599 --> 02:03:56,239
good cause eviction law. Um I didn't

2596
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:59,199
read any what I read in those in the

2597
02:03:59,199 --> 02:04:01,840
Gazette was that uh these cities didn't

2598
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:03,679
seem to have any big problems with it.

2599
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:05,360
And in fact, they thought it was working

2600
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:07,760
quite well, which made me feel good

2601
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,400
because it does seem to me like it's

2602
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,119
only just that you would have to have a

2603
02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:14,960
good reason to throw somebody out of

2604
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:19,119
their home. Um, I have been on both

2605
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:22,000
sides. I've been a renter, I've been a

2606
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,480
homeowner, and I've been a a landlord.

2607
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:26,320
And by the way, I think that the reason

2608
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,599
Well, she's gone now. Um, I think that

2609
02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:31,679
if landlords want to be called people,

2610
02:04:31,679 --> 02:04:33,199
then they should stop calling themselves

2611
02:04:33,199 --> 02:04:36,719
landlords and tenants should be people,

2612
02:04:36,719 --> 02:04:38,960
too. So, maybe it should be property

2613
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:42,239
owners and renters as opposed to

2614
02:04:42,239 --> 02:04:46,639
landlords and tenants. I don't know. Um,

2615
02:04:46,639 --> 02:04:50,800
I think that as a landlord myself of if,

2616
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,520
you know, one building with two flats

2617
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:56,880
and built-in tenants that when we bought

2618
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,199
the place and we bought it as a favor to

2619
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:02,239
our friend who was trying to sell it and

2620
02:05:02,239 --> 02:05:06,239
we had gotten a very lucky thing

2621
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:07,920
happened to us. So, we decided instead

2622
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:09,360
of putting our money into stocks and

2623
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,679
bonds, we would buy this place and help

2624
02:05:11,679 --> 02:05:14,080
her out. and we kept these tenants and

2625
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:15,760
they're still there and they we haven't

2626
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:17,760
we we've only raised the rent like twice

2627
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,679
in 20 years and you know it's just

2628
02:05:19,679 --> 02:05:21,840
because we don't really need to get more

2629
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:25,599
money than we're getting. Um and we want

2630
02:05:25,599 --> 02:05:27,360
them to stay there because we they're

2631
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,760
good tenants and we'd rather not have to

2632
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:31,760
try to find another tenant that we don't

2633
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,000
know. So, you know, our objective was

2634
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:35,840
not to get rich. It was just to do

2635
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,400
something with this money that we had

2636
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,760
been fortunate enough to get. Um, it

2637
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,599
just seems like if and and you know,

2638
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:46,800
people that have 20 apartments or 20

2639
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,199
buildings or whatever,

2640
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:51,280
you know, they don't need all that. If

2641
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,440
they if they really have so many

2642
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:55,760
problems handling all that, then they

2643
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:58,960
should probably scale down and, you

2644
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:00,960
know, work with what they can work with.

2645
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,040
Um

2646
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,280
we uh

2647
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:07,360
I I lived in apartments where the

2648
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:09,440
landlords continued to raise the rent

2649
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,440
every six months in the stockade. This

2650
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:14,639
is many dec you know 30 years ago but it

2651
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:17,440
was like they wouldn't do anything to

2652
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,719
fix the problems at all but it would be

2653
02:06:20,719 --> 02:06:23,440
like you'd still get a rent raise every

2654
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,840
six months and it made no sense to me.

2655
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,239
And then I there was another place I

2656
02:06:28,239 --> 02:06:31,199
lived downtown Skenctity where the owner

2657
02:06:31,199 --> 02:06:34,719
was a pharmacist and he would not

2658
02:06:34,719 --> 02:06:37,920
um do anything to raise the temperature

2659
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,560
during the winter. We had to we had we

2660
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:42,960
had to show him how there was you know

2661
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:44,480
three inches of snow on the inside of

2662
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,000
the windows and we were having to wear

2663
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:49,040
mittens and jackets all the time and and

2664
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,280
you know tenants don't usually have much

2665
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:53,840
power that's for sure. So, I don't think

2666
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,079
it's a bad thing to give them a little

2667
02:06:56,079 --> 02:06:59,920
more dignity, respect, and power and,

2668
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:03,599
you know, equality. I mean, land

2669
02:07:03,599 --> 02:07:05,280
landlords

2670
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:08,000
shouldn't just be able to wield all the

2671
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,360
power. When you're not rich, it's hard.

2672
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:13,760
When you're poor, it's hard. I also

2673
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,280
lived and worked in a homeless shelter,

2674
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:16,480
so I know

2675
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:18,719
>> all about homeless people, too. And they

2676
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:20,239
don't all deserve to be homeless,

2677
02:07:20,239 --> 02:07:21,599
believe me. Thank you.

2678
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:25,270
>> Thank you.

2679
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:26,960
[Applause]

2680
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:29,440
This is the last one. I have no one else

2681
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,199
signed up to speak, so I declare the

2682
02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:34,400
public comment of city business closed.

2683
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,239
At this time, any miscellaneous business

2684
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:40,629
of council,

2685
02:07:40,639 --> 02:07:49,669
Miss Patrick,

2686
02:07:49,679 --> 02:07:52,719
thank you. Um, I just wanted to say that

2687
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:54,880
the summer lunch program that the

2688
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:57,920
Sycamore Collaborative has underway is

2689
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,920
in full swing. They're already seeing

2690
02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:03,119
like a huge increase um in the numbers

2691
02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:05,599
of uh people that numbers of children

2692
02:08:05,599 --> 02:08:09,119
that they're feeding. Um, so I wanted to

2693
02:08:09,119 --> 02:08:11,520
suggest that um there's a list of the

2694
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,760
sites obviously um on the Sycamore

2695
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:17,760
Collaborative uh website, but they also

2696
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:20,000
need more volunteers uh to help with the

2697
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,320
summer meals program. So I would

2698
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,800
encourage people to reach out um

2699
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,400
specifically to Carrie Wolf Picod at the

2700
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,960
Sycamore Collaborative um if you are

2701
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:32,719
interested in volunteering to help give

2702
02:08:32,719 --> 02:08:35,840
out the summer meals. Um Carrie's number

2703
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:39,910
is 518-374-2683

2704
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:43,920
extension 120 over at Sickum. Um and the

2705
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:48,000
meal program is uh at many of our city

2706
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,320
parks um at the library and there's a

2707
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,560
whole list here that I'd be happy to

2708
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,320
share with folks, but you can find it on

2709
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,280
the Sycamore uh website as well. Um I

2710
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:58,960
also wanted to mention that last night

2711
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:01,679
was the first concert for Music Haven at

2712
02:09:01,679 --> 02:09:03,840
Central Park. It was just unbelievable

2713
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,159
how many people uh were there for the

2714
02:09:06,159 --> 02:09:09,199
first concert which was uh a wonderful

2715
02:09:09,199 --> 02:09:13,040
uh Punjabi uh group called Red Barat.

2716
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,280
This Friday is the next concert which is

2717
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:18,400
the Sunnis skenctity faculty jazz combo

2718
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,639
with featured guest Neestor Torres. So

2719
02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:23,280
that should be an amazing jazz concert

2720
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,760
um on Friday evening at Music Haven in

2721
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,679
Central Park and that would be at 700

2722
02:09:27,679 --> 02:09:31,119
p.m. The concessions open at 6 pm. Um,

2723
02:09:31,119 --> 02:09:33,679
also the Skenctity County Food Council.

2724
02:09:33,679 --> 02:09:36,639
Um, I'm I'm a member of the advocacy

2725
02:09:36,639 --> 02:09:39,599
group for uh the food council. Um, they

2726
02:09:39,599 --> 02:09:41,920
are having uh another community

2727
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:44,560
listening session to hear more about

2728
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:46,880
from folks about their hunger issues.

2729
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,159
Um, that is Wednesday, July 30th over at

2730
02:09:50,159 --> 02:09:53,119
the Electric City Barn at 5 Well,

2731
02:09:53,119 --> 02:09:54,880
they're going to serve food as they

2732
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,280
always do at 5:30. Um, and then the

2733
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,679
program will begin at six o'clock. So

2734
02:09:59,679 --> 02:10:01,440
again, that's the Skenctity County Food

2735
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,360
Council, and you can find that as well

2736
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,400
on on their website. Um, I also wanted

2737
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:08,560
to mention that the library summer

2738
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:11,760
reading club reading program is underway

2739
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,000
for both children and adults. It's

2740
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,719
called Color Our World this year. Uh

2741
02:10:16,719 --> 02:10:18,400
there's really a lot of fun activities

2742
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,239
that the library has planned to try to

2743
02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:24,079
encourage both children and adults to uh

2744
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:26,320
do a lot of reading this summer. Uh, so

2745
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,079
I hope that folks will take advantage of

2746
02:10:28,079 --> 02:10:30,560
that and get your bingo card and try to

2747
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:33,119
fill it in by reading uh different kinds

2748
02:10:33,119 --> 02:10:36,320
of books and poetry uh this summer. And

2749
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:37,840
that's all I have, Madam President.

2750
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:38,159
Thank you.

2751
02:10:38,159 --> 02:10:40,239
>> Thank you,

2752
02:10:40,239 --> 02:10:42,239
>> Mr. Farley.

2753
02:10:42,239 --> 02:10:44,880
>> Thank you, Madam President. Um, geez,

2754
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:48,800
not really sure where to start. Um

2755
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,520
I think um as you know it was important

2756
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:53,360
to me that I was listening really

2757
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:56,000
intently to all sides of the issue.

2758
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,480
Again I think there's more than um than

2759
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,960
two here. Uh I think it's a far more

2760
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,119
nuance than um than people are giving

2761
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:05,760
credit to. But, you know, in my

2762
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:08,159
conversations with landlords, which I've

2763
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:10,159
reached out to Slick multiple times to

2764
02:11:10,159 --> 02:11:11,760
say, "Let's sit down and have a

2765
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:12,960
conversation so I could better

2766
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,440
understand um your position." Because

2767
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:17,520
the members that I've spoken to that

2768
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:19,119
were members of Slick, we sat down, we

2769
02:11:19,119 --> 02:11:21,040
had a meeting, and the question that I

2770
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:25,119
asked them was, "What reason as a

2771
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:28,480
landlord have you evicted someone or

2772
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:31,119
would evict someone that's not on the

2773
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:32,719
list?"

2774
02:11:32,719 --> 02:11:34,719
and all of the I believe it's I'm up to

2775
02:11:34,719 --> 02:11:37,840
six now, not one landlord has been able

2776
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:39,520
to provide me with a reason that they

2777
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,239
would evict a tenant or have evicted

2778
02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:44,800
tenant that's not all already allowed on

2779
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,760
the list. Um so I understand people's

2780
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:50,320
emotions. Um but the reality are the

2781
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:52,880
facts just don't support what's said.

2782
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:54,880
The facts just don't support what's

2783
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:58,000
being said. Um, I would also just, you

2784
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:00,079
know, for my colleagues on city council,

2785
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:04,000
I think that, um, if we're not careful,

2786
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:05,679
we start to go to a place where

2787
02:12:05,679 --> 02:12:09,199
sometimes we oppose things,

2788
02:12:09,199 --> 02:12:12,000
legislation based on who who's bringing

2789
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:16,320
it forward more than the the um, uh, the

2790
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:18,800
legislation itself. I say that

2791
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,480
gracefully. I don't say that to be

2792
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:21,760
accusatory. I actually say that

2793
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:26,079
gracefully because I don't believe

2794
02:12:26,079 --> 02:12:29,040
that we can listen to people, get up

2795
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:31,440
here, be extremely vulnerable, and talk

2796
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,000
about their situations and things that

2797
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,199
they've experienced and act like this is

2798
02:12:37,199 --> 02:12:39,920
not a worthy cause or worthy legislation

2799
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,880
to pass. So, I don't think that

2800
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:44,960
and and to that point further, I was

2801
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:46,239
like, why wouldn't we at least want to

2802
02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:48,000
have a public hearing? Well, I'm going

2803
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:49,520
to be graceful to say again, I know that

2804
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:51,520
the mayor is required to have a public

2805
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:53,280
hearing, but I also think that it's

2806
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:54,960
difficult to sit here and listen to

2807
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:56,719
people who are coming and saying like,

2808
02:12:56,719 --> 02:12:58,480
"Look, this is my reality. This is my

2809
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,159
neighbor's reality." And then on the

2810
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:01,840
other side of the issue, even every

2811
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:03,599
landlord that got up here today and

2812
02:13:03,599 --> 02:13:07,599
spoke, they didn't give one reason. They

2813
02:13:07,599 --> 02:13:08,880
talked about people who are not paying

2814
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:10,480
the rent. It's already in the

2815
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:12,079
legislation. They talked about people

2816
02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:14,560
who damaged property. That also is is in

2817
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:16,880
the legislation. So again, it's one of

2818
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:18,800
those issues where the facts don't

2819
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,199
support it. So I don't know how someone

2820
02:13:21,199 --> 02:13:23,280
can really read through this legislation

2821
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:25,040
and disagree with it that you need to

2822
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:28,960
have a good cause to uproot a family. Um

2823
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,960
I'm a little disappointed, but I'm going

2824
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,599
to again be graceful gracious to say

2825
02:13:33,599 --> 02:13:35,760
there must be something that I'm

2826
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,000
missing. And I super invite my

2827
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:39,520
colleagues, I've reached out to to

2828
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,360
multiple my colleagues here to explain

2829
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:44,800
to me um why that h what piece of this

2830
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:47,599
I'm missing because I just absolutely

2831
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:49,520
don't get it. Thank you.

2832
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:51,720
>> Thank you,

2833
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:55,270
[Applause]

2834
02:13:55,280 --> 02:14:00,470
» Mr.

2835
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:02,400
Thank you. I'd like to thank everyone

2836
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,800
that came out this evening and previous

2837
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:08,480
evenings and repeatedly on each each um

2838
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,719
uh what they wanted to speak on. I'd

2839
02:14:10,719 --> 02:14:12,719
like to just speak right now on um our

2840
02:14:12,719 --> 02:14:17,440
city pool. Um so uh I just want to um

2841
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:23,119
let everyone know that there are many swimming lessons available at the

2842
02:14:23,119 --> 02:14:27,119
city pool and at the high school. Um

2843
02:14:27,119 --> 02:14:29,040
there's uh today I brought my

2844
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:31,119
granddaughter to the high school and

2845
02:14:31,119 --> 02:14:34,719
coach Crannle I believe his name is sat

2846
02:14:34,719 --> 02:14:38,000
stood there and spoke to every parent

2847
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:41,840
grandparent guardian and child uh before

2848
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:45,040
the 10:30 swim lesson. We don't want to

2849
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:48,239
leave any child behind when it comes to

2850
02:14:48,239 --> 02:14:51,760
uh swimming life safety.

2851
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:54,480
So, there's a website that you can sign

2852
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:56,960
up on or Coach Crannle said just bring

2853
02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:02,639
your child on over. Uh it's from um um

2854
02:15:02,639 --> 02:15:05,199
levels one, two, three, and four where

2855
02:15:05,199 --> 02:15:06,880
they're diving off the board. But I want

2856
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:09,440
to encourage everyone to take advantage

2857
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:11,840
of bringing anyone you know. He said,

2858
02:15:11,840 --> 02:15:13,520
invite your friends, your family,

2859
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:15,920
anyone. It's so important. There's

2860
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:18,880
lessons from 8:30 in the morning until

2861
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:20,800
3:00 in the afternoon with plenty of

2862
02:15:20,800 --> 02:15:24,400
lifeguards there at the Skenctity High

2863
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:27,920
School pool, but also with in our public

2864
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:29,840
pools throughout the city. And I want to

2865
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:32,719
thank um all of us, the Boys and Girls

2866
02:15:32,719 --> 02:15:34,800
Club, for making that possible because

2867
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:37,440
it's extremely important for our youth

2868
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,960
to know how to swim. Thank you.

2869
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:43,280
>> Thank you,

2870
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:46,950
>> Mayor

2871
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:48,719
Thank you, Madam President. Appreciate

2872
02:15:48,719 --> 02:15:50,480
everyone coming out tonight and their

2873
02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:52,639
thoughts and opinions on the issues that

2874
02:15:52,639 --> 02:15:55,040
are facing us. Uh I believe it's

2875
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:57,920
slightly cooler outside than in this

2876
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:00,480
chamber, so I'll yield any uh time. Back

2877
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:01,599
to the president.

2878
02:16:01,599 --> 02:16:03,520
>> Thank you. I'd like to thank everyone

2879
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,040
that came out tonight that voiced their

2880
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:09,040
opinion, whichever uh side of the issue

2881
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:11,840
um that you were on. Uh, I think it's

2882
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:13,280
important, I've always said this, that

2883
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,599
we hear from our constituents. And I

2884
02:16:15,599 --> 02:16:17,199
know that some people say, "Well, not

2885
02:16:17,199 --> 02:16:20,000
everyone that was here tonight uh spoke

2886
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:21,360
that spoke is from the city of

2887
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:23,599
Skenctity, but it's also important to

2888
02:16:23,599 --> 02:16:26,880
hear from people who are well informed

2889
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:28,960
about the topic so that we make sure

2890
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:31,199
that we get the information necessary

2891
02:16:31,199 --> 02:16:34,800
and we're not just um counting on people

2892
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,439
who just heard what someone else said."

2893
02:16:37,439 --> 02:16:39,040
So having people even if they're from

2894
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:41,200
outside the community, if they're well

2895
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:43,120
informed, have studied the legislation,

2896
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:44,800
etc. I think it's important to hear

2897
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:47,200
those voices as well. We we listen to

2898
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:50,960
other um governmental um we often say we

2899
02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:52,719
let's look what another municipality is

2900
02:16:52,719 --> 02:16:54,160
doing and that isn't that much

2901
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:58,080
different. Uh in terms of um the this

2902
02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:00,479
good housing, good um cause eviction. At

2903
02:17:00,479 --> 02:17:04,160
the last meeting, I stated that SCAP I

2904
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:06,800
incorrectly ska stated um Scap's

2905
02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:08,319
position. So, I just want to correct

2906
02:17:08,319 --> 02:17:11,040
that. It was stated that CAP SC Scap

2907
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:15,040
said they were against good cause and um

2908
02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:16,880
but then if you went to the Scap

2909
02:17:16,880 --> 02:17:18,479
website, they said they were not taking

2910
02:17:18,479 --> 02:17:20,719
any position on it. So, I just wanted to

2911
02:17:20,719 --> 02:17:22,559
clarify it was brought to my attention

2912
02:17:22,559 --> 02:17:24,719
after I said it. So, now I'm correcting

2913
02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:28,639
it. I just als I also want to um just

2914
02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:30,960
remind folks that there is also a

2915
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:33,040
housing forum tomorrow at the Skenctity

2916
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:34,800
Public Library. It's the second one that

2917
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:37,920
they've had at 6 pm. So individuals that

2918
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:40,000
want to go um it is really around

2919
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,000
housing in the city of Skenctity. So if

2920
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:43,439
you're a Skenctity resident, you want to

2921
02:17:43,439 --> 02:17:46,080
attend talk about it, hear different

2922
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:48,240
things, talk about different solutions,

2923
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:51,519
I invite you to all to go there. And

2924
02:17:51,519 --> 02:17:52,880
there's one more one thing that was said

2925
02:17:52,880 --> 02:17:54,399
at the rail today that I want to

2926
02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:56,719
correct. There was a individual that

2927
02:17:56,719 --> 02:17:58,160
came that said that three council

2928
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,080
members um stated that they wanted to

2929
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:03,679
defund the police. That was not said. So

2930
02:18:03,679 --> 02:18:05,519
I just want to clarify that they didn't

2931
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:07,200
give names and I don't know who they're

2932
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:09,040
talking about, but I know that no

2933
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:11,519
council member said defund the police.

2934
02:18:11,519 --> 02:18:13,439
So I just want to clear the record on

2935
02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:16,080
that. There's often things attributed to

2936
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:17,920
council members saying that they didn't

2937
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:19,679
necessarily say. So if I have the

2938
02:18:19,679 --> 02:18:23,679
opportunity to correct that, I will.

2939
02:18:23,679 --> 02:18:25,280
That's all I have this evening. So I

2940
02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:27,599
entertain a motion to adjurnn. Moved by

2941
02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:29,920
Miss Patrick, second by Mr. Mutiveran.

2942
02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:32,319
All those in favor? I. We are adjourned.

2943
02:18:32,319 --> 02:18:56,090
Have a good evening.

2944
02:18:56,100 --> 02:19:04,479
[Music]

2945
02:19:04,479 --> 02:19:06,790
Hey.

2946
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:39,990
[Music]

2947
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:41,340
Heat. Heat.

2948
02:19:41,340 --> 02:20:02,230
[Music]

2949
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,400
Heat.

2950
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:18,630
[Music]

2951
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:22,330
Heat.

2952
02:20:22,340 --> 02:20:58,150
[Music]

2953
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:01,510
Heat. Heat.

2954
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:03,060
[Music]

2955
02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:08,860
[Applause]

2956
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:22,790
[Music]

2957
02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:26,210
Hey.

2958
02:21:26,220 --> 02:21:35,559
[Music]