1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,630 Hey, hey, hey. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:46,239 [Music] 3 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:57,450 Heat. Heat. 4 00:00:57,460 --> 00:01:41,370 [Music] 5 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:47,190 [Applause] 6 00:01:47,200 --> 00:02:01,109 [Music] 7 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:04,540 Hey, 8 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:09,109 [Music] 9 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:11,080 hey, hey. 10 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:22,550 [Music] 11 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,290 Hey, 12 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:30,800 [Music] 13 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,780 hey, hey. 14 00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:57,280 [Music] 15 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,950 Hey, hey, hey. 16 00:02:59,950 --> 00:03:13,360 [Music] 17 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,420 Hey, 18 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:29,280 [Music] 19 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,820 hey, hey. 20 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:47,920 [Music] 21 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,740 Heat. Heat. 22 00:03:51,750 --> 00:04:11,670 [Music] 23 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Heat. Heat. 24 00:04:15,490 --> 00:04:17,680 [Music] 25 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,889 Hey, hey, hey. 26 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:56,230 [Music] 27 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:56,270 [Applause] 28 00:04:56,270 --> 00:05:23,430 [Music] 29 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,199 call to order connected city council 30 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:28,080 committee meeting for Tuesday September 31 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 2nd 2025. We're going to begin uh with a 32 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,639 presentation by our engineer chief uh 33 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:38,150 Chris Wallen. 34 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 [Music] 35 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,840 Thank you. Uh due to the length of the 36 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,680 agenda and all that I would just not 37 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,280 going to be a presentation public 38 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,960 information meeting talk about the 39 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,120 presentation. So as you see in your 40 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,080 legislative request form I have a the 41 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,080 background summary there. So what we did 42 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,759 is this as part of um the infra 43 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:01,440 infrastructure act a couple years ago 44 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,919 there was a safe streets for all SS4A 45 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:07,039 grants that came out through the DOS. um 46 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:09,440 our MO the Capital Region Transportation 47 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,680 Council um applied for one for the 48 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,560 region uh which we participated in. Um 49 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960 so they uh held the agreement with the 50 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,720 consultant and we were a participant in 51 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,280 that. Um what they did was they looked 52 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,720 at um crash hotspots in the communities 53 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,680 in each community. Um to Skenctity's 54 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,199 credit, they actually came and we met 55 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:30,720 and I believe Alex was at the meeting as 56 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,720 well and they came through and they said 57 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 um here's a list of the hotspots, Crane 58 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Street, Albany Street, um State Street, 59 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,759 Erie Boulevard. We went through and we 60 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:43,440 went down and said we did a Crane Street 61 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,360 linkage study. We have an Albany Street 62 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,800 project. We have an Erie Boulevard 63 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,039 project. So we actually are working on 64 00:06:49,039 --> 00:06:50,960 most of what their list was, but one of 65 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,199 the streets was also Eastern Avenue. 66 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:54,400 has seen a lot of 67 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,120 development in various ways and also a 68 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,199 lot of change. So, we decided to focus 69 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:01,680 on Eastern Avenue. So, the study area 70 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,240 was Eastern Avenue from Not Terrace up 71 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,440 to Elmer Avenue. Um, that area, like I 72 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,280 said, has gone through a lot of changes. 73 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,199 And what it is hard, I'll just try to be 74 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:13,039 as brief as possible with it, is for 75 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:15,840 people today to understand why certain 76 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,080 things existed who might not have been 77 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 here 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 40 78 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,199 years ago. So if you were to drive the 79 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,919 corridor, you would find two traffic 80 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:28,560 lights on the corridor. Um, one at 81 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Mcurving and one at Elmer. Both of those 82 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,880 lights were installed when there were 83 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 two active elementary schools. So we had 84 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,080 a school at St. Mary's, we had a school 85 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Elmer Avenue. The schools have changed, 86 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,520 neighborhood has changed, but the 87 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,479 signals remain. So part of this was 88 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:47,919 looking are those signals actually 89 00:07:47,919 --> 00:07:49,759 warranted and to bring something into 90 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:52,720 more perspective would be um over at 91 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,479 Becker and Brandy Wine we had an 92 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:56,319 automobile accident that took out a 93 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:59,039 signal right at that intersection. I'm 94 00:07:59,039 --> 00:08:00,560 working with our signal superintendent 95 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,879 who is not a local person and we're 96 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:04,240 trying he's looking through he's saying 97 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,520 this signal really doesn't make a lot of 98 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,840 sense. I said well what you don't know 99 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,400 is where the parking lot is where it 100 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400 seems like a very odd large parking lot 101 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,720 that was a school. So, this is another 102 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,960 signal that was put in during a school. 103 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,960 So, we are looking at putting something 104 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,720 back at that intersection that might not 105 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,240 be a signal. We're looking at a 106 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,240 different uh rapid flashing beacon, 107 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,520 something else so that you can cross the 108 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,919 street. But, as the city changes, we 109 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:29,919 don't need to develop it the way that it 110 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:34,159 was 40 years ago or 20 years ago. So, 111 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,560 that is what this is. Um, we will be 112 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,080 holding and I will leave these out even 113 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,839 though this was also developed. Uh, we 114 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:42,000 are holding a virtual meeting. This is 115 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,320 the preferred venue for this type uh for 116 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,680 this type of project. They've done 117 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,360 virtual meetings for the Albany project 118 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,200 and Saratoga project. So this is 119 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,839 Skenctities. Uh it's a week from now 120 00:08:51,839 --> 00:08:53,920 virtually Tuesday, September 9th, 5:30 121 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,880 to 7:00. And we'll be discussing uh two 122 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,440 concepts that we have. The first concept 123 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,519 is fairly uh simple to implement and 124 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:06,320 requires um new new crosswalks at 125 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,160 certain areas. U painting some new 126 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,519 crosswalks where we see a lot of 127 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,920 pedestrian activity. the removal of 128 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,600 those signals, insulation of um rapid 129 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,839 flashing beacons and things because, you 130 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:19,040 know, if you were to if you were to live 131 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,640 in the St. Mary's converted, you know, 132 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,560 that's a timed signal. It's not even 133 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,360 actuated. You just wait. Um and I've 134 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,959 never videoed it. We don't want to, but 135 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:28,720 you know, people might not wait just 136 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,920 because they're there. And then you get 137 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,519 into are people actually paying 138 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,120 attention to the signals. And that 139 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,200 actually for colleagues of mine who work 140 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 at um engineering areas in the DOT, 141 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,360 they've actually noted those signals as 142 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,200 being just completely outdated. Same 143 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,720 thing with Elmer Avenue. Elmer Avenue is 144 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,600 actually green for the entirety until 145 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 you activate it on Elmer and then it 146 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,120 will go into a flash system. So now that 147 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,040 it's not there, now it is a senior 148 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,959 housing. Is that really necessary? And 149 00:09:54,959 --> 00:09:56,959 then the second option, which is the 150 00:09:56,959 --> 00:10:00,080 more to a consultant, uh the more 151 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,240 alluring option is to actually turn 152 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Eastern Avenue into a one-way street 153 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,080 from not terrace to essentially ranking. 154 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Um and the idea with something like that 155 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,839 is if you were to do that, then you 156 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:14,079 could take that real estate second and 157 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:16,560 you could implement a bike lane for 158 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,200 both. Um and then you would have uh a 159 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,560 neighborhood bike lane and you would 160 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,800 still use Union Street as your two-way. 161 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,640 And most streets then we'd have to, you 162 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,000 know, the side streets would have to be 163 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,399 looked at. But um it gives you a lot of 164 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,959 opportunity. Uh parking on one side, 165 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:33,120 bike lane on one side and then and then 166 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,839 the traffic uh one way up. But that is 167 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:38,480 the the interesting uh the interesting 168 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,640 concept. Um I think it does have some 169 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,800 merit and I would look to hear from 170 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,399 people on the corridor what they think 171 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:47,440 of it. Um you know the corridor has 172 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,120 changed quite a bit. We do have quite a 173 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,800 bit of blocks in between that you would 174 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,560 be able to get on and off of it. the 175 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,560 bike lane would be two-way two-way just 176 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,560 to make sure it wouldn't be just up with 177 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:59,200 that. It would be an actual two-way bike 178 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,480 lane. And then there's, you know, 179 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,920 multiple ways to do it. You could do it 180 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,200 the way that we're looking on Craig 181 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Street, which is a completely separated 182 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,360 raised bike lane, or you could do it 183 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,800 just through striping, which is similar 184 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,560 to what we did on Washington Avenue with 185 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:13,680 a a bright painted or delineated thing 186 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,839 uh lane up the side. So, that's what 187 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,320 we'll be uh discussing on September uh 188 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,519 9th. Um there is no implementation 189 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:25,279 money. This is something that just like 190 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,000 uh the Crane Street projects and Albany 191 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Street and that this is going to you 192 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,680 know it's a study. I know people 193 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,279 sometimes get frustrated with studies 194 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,279 because it you know it took us a very 195 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:36,560 long time to implement Craig Street. 196 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:38,640 That's a $13 million project. This isn't 197 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,360 that but we also have to work together 198 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 as the council development engineering 199 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,680 and the mayor's office to see what are 200 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,720 our priorities. Um, if the reviews of 201 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,320 something like this are positive and we 202 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 think that there is a way to to 203 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,680 implement a one-way cheaply with paint 204 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:56,880 and we really think it'll have a 205 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,800 positive on the community, we could do 206 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,959 that. Um, if we think that it's 207 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:02,079 positive, but we want to do the 208 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:03,600 separated, well, now we're talking about 209 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,680 a multiple seven figure job and then 210 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:07,680 we'd have to go after funding. But do we 211 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:08,959 want to do that or we want to work on 212 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:10,480 Albany Street? You know, we really have 213 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,639 to weigh where we are. Um I don't know 214 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,959 how uh public works projects fit into 215 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:16,320 the comprehensive plan that we're 216 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,920 working on, but you know that's 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,360 something that we do have going on right 218 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,040 now is this comprehensive plan for the 219 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,120 entire city. And I'm hoping that there's 220 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,800 a little bit dedicated to the direction 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,360 of public works and where we put uh our 222 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,760 money. But um this is where we are. If 223 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,440 you have any questions, you can ask me 224 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,440 now or I encourage everybody to uh to 225 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,829 attend virtually in a week. 226 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:38,320 » Okay. 227 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,079 Now, we're going to leave these uh 228 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:41,600 on the counter outside the clerk's 229 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,560 office and then we're going to be 230 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,000 posting it. I believe there was already 231 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,079 a press release. Uh so, everything's 232 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:46,959 going to be going through with the 233 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:48,639 mayor's office and the CRTC going 234 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,639 forward just for public. 235 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:55,829 >> All right. Thank you. 236 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,800 » Okay. Our first committee is claims. 237 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,320 >> So, I'd like to call to order the claims 238 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,600 committee. We have two items on the 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 agenda tonight with the inclusion of the 240 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,760 new energy letter of intent to negotiate 241 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 at the mayor's request. It was in uh 242 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,360 city development and planning 243 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,279 previously. Um and I believe all three 244 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:14,639 of those items need to be discussed in 245 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:17,360 executive session. So I have a motion. 246 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,639 I will second. All those in favor I. Um 247 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:22,160 we are now in executive session 248 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,519 >> and members of the public will have to 249 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:25,600 leave. We will be going back into public 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,020 session after this. 251 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:41,839 [Music] 252 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:44,190 Hey, 253 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:49,519 [Music] 254 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:52,220 hey, hey. 255 00:13:52,220 --> 00:14:21,920 [Music] 256 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,240 Heat. Heat. N. 257 00:14:25,250 --> 00:15:04,480 [Music] 258 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,010 Heat. Heat. 259 00:15:07,010 --> 00:15:25,519 [Music] 260 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,410 Heat. Heat. 261 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:32,720 [Music] 262 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Heat. 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Hey, heat. 486 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,940 Heat. 487 01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:29,840 [Music] 488 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,220 Heat. Heat. N. 489 01:10:35,230 --> 01:10:49,970 [Music] 490 01:10:49,970 --> 01:10:50,000 [Applause] 491 01:10:50,000 --> 01:11:04,870 [Music] 492 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,450 Heat. Hey, Heat. 493 01:11:06,450 --> 01:11:27,430 [Music] 494 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:30,690 Heat. Heat. 495 01:11:30,700 --> 01:12:30,000 [Music] 496 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,340 Hey, 497 01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:37,840 [Music] 498 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,380 hey, hey. 499 01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:56,480 [Music] 500 01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,300 Heat. Heat. 501 01:13:00,310 --> 01:13:20,149 [Music] 502 01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:24,020 Heat. 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I would like to call to order the 518 01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,880 finance committee and the first item is 519 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,960 grant award New York State Highway 520 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:15,669 safety program 521 01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:17,270 almost. 522 01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:20,870 [Music] 523 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,760 » Good evening. Uh I'm not quite chief 524 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,480 lieutenant Scott. Um so tonight uh here 525 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,400 to 526 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,320 uh present that the city of connected 527 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,600 police department has been awarded 528 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,520 $45,600 529 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,320 um in state funding from the governor's 530 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,440 uh traffic safety committee GTSC. 531 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:43,600 They're in partnership with DMV. Uh this 532 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,320 is for 533 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,149 um 534 01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:52,000 I lost my place. Uh the highway safety 535 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,040 program. basically their uh in some 536 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,360 substance their initiative and goals to 537 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,080 reduce the number of crashes uh injuries 538 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,560 and deaths on New York New York's 539 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,840 roadways. Um so what this money does 540 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,040 we've been uh a recipient of this grant 541 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,080 for multiple years. Uh ultimately in a 542 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,640 nutshell this is just a supplement to 543 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,600 our already uh daily traffic enforcement 544 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,800 efforts. Um, this kind of gives us a 545 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,199 little bit of flexibility um with some 546 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,679 directed attention and patrol to certain 547 01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:27,199 areas if we're getting certain 548 01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:30,080 complaints in different areas. Uh, it 549 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,800 allowed us to supplement the efforts of 550 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,960 the speed limit change when that took 551 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,360 place. Um, and obviously we'll continue 552 01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,400 to do so. Um there's also money set 553 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,400 aside for training to attend yearly 554 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,199 conferences, uh DR training, the drug 555 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:48,080 recognition expert, um things of that 556 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,159 nature. And then it also funds 557 01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:51,679 specifically 558 01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:53,920 um there's a breakdown in there for 559 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,600 certain initiatives that the state holds 560 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:56,880 throughout the year like clicking or 561 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,280 ticket, um you know, distracted driving. 562 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,679 You've all heard these before. Um so 563 01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:03,199 during those times, whether they're 564 01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,360 months, weeks, whatever, certain monies 565 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,080 are allotted specifically just for that. 566 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:13,590 It's all in the breakdown under this. Um 567 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,600 there's an education portion of this. Uh 568 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,719 during pedestrian safety, um typically 569 01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,640 what we'll do is we'll send out um 570 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,239 officers 571 01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,480 to just educate people, educate 572 01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,000 pedestrians in some of the high traffic 573 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,320 pedestrian areas uh with just pamphlets 574 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,120 like you know notifying them that either 575 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,960 they were in the wrong or the driver was 576 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,600 in the wrong. giving them uh proper 577 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,960 documentation and education on the laws 578 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,560 um and just sending them on their way 579 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,120 without any tickets, just more of a 580 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,960 verbal warning. So, there's pieces in 581 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,790 place for that. 582 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,360 » Any questions? 583 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,480 >> Not a question, but a comment. I mean, I really appreciate that the police 584 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:57,040 department has um is getting so many of 585 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,280 these grants. um in particular, I 586 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,760 appreciate this one um because it is um 587 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,600 will add to some of the other traffic 588 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,320 calming measures that we've been talking 589 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,640 about and and putting into place. So, 590 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,159 >> Lieutenant Colin, who's in charge of 591 01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:12,800 that division? He's uh there's more on 592 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,320 the docket. Things haven't been decided 593 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,000 on yet. So, 594 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,760 >> thank you. 595 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,920 >> Any other questions come in? 596 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,360 >> Seeing none, may I have a motion to move 597 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,719 this item forward? 598 01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:23,600 >> So, moved. 599 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,320 >> Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. 600 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,480 The next item is amended and restated 601 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,400 bond ordinance for the Washington Avenue 602 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,640 pump station and the water resource 603 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:44,790 recovery facility. 604 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,600 » Hello, good evening. Um, we are looking 605 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,760 to amend and restate the Washington pump 606 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,679 station and the water resource uh 607 01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:53,920 recovery facility. As you can see in the 608 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760 analysis, we're looking to increase that 609 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,360 by approximately $7.6 million to a 610 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,280 maximum cost of 29 million 611 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,600 approximately. Uh we're requesting that 612 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,239 the U council approve this. Um it was 613 01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:10,960 originally adopted on July 10th, 2023. 614 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,480 So we're looking to just continue the 615 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,239 process. Um if you need further 616 01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,560 information, I I do have Commissioner OB 617 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,800 with me here to discuss any details with 618 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,800 you. 619 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,440 >> Any questions coming? Go ahead, please. 620 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:26,239 >> So, um, since we adopted this in 2023 621 01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,440 and I my question essentially is it's 622 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,840 two years and, um, if you just can 623 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,560 clarify why we're at this point now and 624 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,040 where is the, um, the work that's being 625 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,360 done, where are we with that? 626 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,960 >> I you sent a couple questions, so I'll 627 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,480 try and answer them if that's okay. 628 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:43,040 >> Oh, sure. 629 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,000 >> Sure. Does um, what what are the 630 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,000 projects entail? Okay. Well, there's two 631 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,360 projects, the Washington Avenue pump 632 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,840 station and the WRF, which is the 633 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,600 wastewater treatment plant that pumps. 634 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,159 Uh, what this is going to do is help 635 01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:57,760 with the resiliency program and increase 636 01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,360 the redundancy of the city's 637 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,040 infrastructure to reduce the inflow to 638 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,960 the treatment plant. And that's going to 639 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,719 be done by the old Washington Avenue 640 01:21:04,719 --> 01:21:06,159 pump house, which is the round building 641 01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:08,960 that sits over by county college. 642 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,640 >> That has been unfunctioning for years. 643 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,159 Okay. It will help with the flooding 644 01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:16,000 issues there. It will reduce the flow 645 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,239 going to the wastewater treatment plant. 646 01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,320 Um and it'll be part of the climate 647 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,120 water related adoption um report that 648 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,199 was done for the city. Now the river 649 01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,360 pumps uh because the the wastewater 650 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,920 treatment plant now takes more flow in 651 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,159 to the plant. The river pumps were put 652 01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:35,679 in in 1972. They were designed to take 653 01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:37,760 roughly 30 some million gallons out of 654 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,679 the plant when there's flooding. Well, 655 01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:41,760 we now receive up to almost 50 million 656 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,320 gallons. So in the times of flooding 657 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,920 along the river is high, we force feed 658 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,679 the river. On normal days, we gravity 659 01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:49,920 feed the river. Water comes in, gravity 660 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,080 flows out. But if there's a storm when 661 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,760 the river comes up, we have to force 662 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,679 feed the river. So that means we have to 663 01:21:55,679 --> 01:21:58,320 activate river pumps to come on. So the 664 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,239 river homes currently that are there are 665 01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:01,920 inadequate cuz they won't pump the flow 666 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,520 that's coming into the plant nowadays. 667 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,920 So they were installed, like I said, it 668 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,360 was with um money on the Clean Water Act 669 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,320 in 1972. So they're from 1972. So 670 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,120 they'll be upgraded to as part of this. 671 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,120 Um the second project was the rice road 672 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,400 um treatment plant the water wells and 673 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,719 that would be phase two and that's the 674 01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:26,080 next phase of the development of rice 675 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,600 road is the capital improvement plant 676 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:32,000 utilized um and we put three wells in a 677 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,960 couple years ago. So this project is two 678 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,960 phases. The wells were put in the well 679 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,960 houses are being installed now with some 680 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,199 of the piping. In phase two, the 681 01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:45,679 $300,000 increase, um, we will apply for 682 01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:47,360 bond money. It does have to be applied 683 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,239 for in September this month. So, we do 684 01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:51,600 have some money out there. We will put 685 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,440 in on the grant application. We were not 686 01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:55,199 awarded grant money for that. First 687 01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:57,040 time, we were awarded over a million 688 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,880 dollars to put the wells in. We were 689 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,679 awarded um almost 950,000 690 01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:04,159 to do the flidation system. So, we did 691 01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,000 have grant money for that. So, we will 692 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,600 be applying for more grant money to help 693 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,880 with the $300,000 um difference there. 694 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,679 As for the Washington Pump Station and 695 01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:16,639 the Ethone Pump Station, um the increase 696 01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,719 for $7 million is because we've been 697 01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:22,719 awarded $26 million in grants. So, we 698 01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:24,480 will maximize the expenditure by 699 01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:27,520 increasing the bond to to match those. 700 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,360 Out of that $26 million that we've 701 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,239 already awarded, we're responsible for 702 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:34,400 25% of the $10 million grant, which is 703 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,679 2.5 million, and the closing costs on 704 01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:40,080 the loan. Um, but that loan because 705 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,679 we'll be a um a um 706 01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:45,679 we'll get zero interest on the loan. So, 707 01:23:45,679 --> 01:23:48,960 that $20ome million, we're only um 708 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,120 responsible 2.5 million and at 0%. 709 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,199 >> And that will be part of the Washington 710 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:57,280 Avenue. 711 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,800 and the WRF which is the river homes. So 712 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,719 we have fully, you know, grant money for 713 01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:05,520 that up to, like I said, other than 25 714 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,560 2.5 million. Um, the projects you would 715 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,199 ask when they would be starting, 716 01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:20,000 um, 717 01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:22,000 [Music] 718 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:38,149 He's 719 01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:43,990 here somewhere. Just 720 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,199 Washington County Public Station. Um 721 01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:49,520 that is the design now. It should be bid 722 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,320 in 26 pending regulatory review and 723 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,920 approval. I'll have to go through their 724 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,159 part of it. Work is anticipated to be 725 01:24:56,159 --> 01:25:04,149 completed by December of 27. 726 01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:06,480 The rice road project city is presently 727 01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,159 finishing construction on phase one 728 01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:10,560 improvements to at the water plant and 729 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,159 the design phase improvements will 730 01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:14,400 commence in 26. project in the space of 731 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,040 the bid in early 27 pending regulatory 732 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,280 review and approval and construction 733 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,280 should be completed by the end of 27 734 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,600 early 28. 735 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,600 That's going to encompass um 736 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,719 a totally redundant system. We currently 737 01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:32,480 have I know I went over this when we did 738 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,639 the bond first time. We currently have 739 01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,960 one main sort of control building. All 740 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,480 the power comes into one main building 741 01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:41,040 at the water wells. This will add 742 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,600 another uh power service coming into the 743 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,960 water wells. The three new wells out of 744 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,960 the three new wells, two wells and one 745 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,800 old good producing well will be tied to 746 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,719 one complete new system with its own 747 01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:55,920 power, its own chemical feed system. So 748 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,520 if something was to happen to the main 749 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,840 building and we lost power there, the 750 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,600 city will still be able to provide water 751 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,679 to the residents um through the 752 01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:05,440 redundant system. So there'll be a 753 01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:07,199 separate coronation system, a separate 754 01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:10,400 redundant power system. So, um, it'll 755 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:11,440 provide the resilience and the 756 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,679 redundancy we need going into the future 757 01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:15,520 to keep a water supply to the residents 758 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,239 of the city of Scanity. 759 01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,639 >> Okay. 760 01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:22,800 >> Are there any questions? 761 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,440 >> So, number one, I just want to say kind 762 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,280 of to piggy back off what Miss Patrick 763 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,880 said, you are constantly coming forth 764 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,600 with like these grants that are really 765 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,560 extremely impressive. Um, and and I can 766 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,000 imagine us being able to do the things 767 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,679 we do without them. So, that's one of 768 01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:41,440 the notes. I something that's slightly 769 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,320 un is related issues. I I would love to 770 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,679 see I remember uh a conversation talking 771 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:51,520 about um helping our residents where 772 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,159 when their mainline breaks from the city 773 01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:56,480 and I was wondering if there's as you're 774 01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:58,320 pursuing any grants is there anything 775 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,120 that kind of could fall under that? 776 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,040 Well, we do have on the IUP $22 million 777 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,400 um and the intended use plan uh for leg 778 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,840 service line replacements. So, um it's 779 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,360 on the intended use plan. We'll apply 780 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,719 for it again. We applied for it last 781 01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:16,719 time because we do know the federal 782 01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:20,400 regulations change in 26. We will have 783 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,719 to have a comprehensive plan of um how 784 01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:26,800 we go from 26 to 36. and whatever lead 785 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,920 services have to rep be replaced, we 786 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,440 have to let them know that if it's a 787 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:33,199 thousand and we got 10 years to do it, 788 01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,199 you know, we're going to do, you know, 789 01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:37,280 100 a year. Um, we have to report the 790 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,040 pay. So, we are going to request 791 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,400 funding. Again, it's all on the funding. 792 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,480 So, um, and there was a time when I did 793 01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:46,639 come up with a a program to try and 794 01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:50,149 offer, 795 01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:51,920 I'll call it an insurance policy years 796 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,880 ago, uh, when I first came back as, um, 797 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,800 director of water and sewer, that the 798 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,239 residents would pay a fee, audits fee, 799 01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:03,360 um, for that policy, um, and the city 800 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,120 would do some of the work to do some of 801 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,159 the service lines or repairs. Um, but it 802 01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:11,280 was turned out. 803 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,670 >> Thank you. 804 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,790 [Music] 805 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:23,430 Oh, it's my 806 01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,120 » gohead, sir. I just got a wing of that 807 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,239 when you just mentioned that it was 808 01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:28,639 turned up. It was turned up because we 809 01:28:28,639 --> 01:28:31,360 were asking it to be a revolving fund. 810 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,600 So you're asking a taxpayer to pay into 811 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,040 a fund to repair broken means but at the 812 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,000 end of the year that money moved into 813 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,920 the general fund and you have to start 814 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,760 all over again 815 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,480 >> and we ask that it be a revolving um the 816 01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:50,080 funding remains throughout the lifetime. 817 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,040 >> Mr. Chairman with all due respect I put 818 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,400 forth the proposals Mr. Leavon outline 819 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,960 so that we would do the repairs and yes 820 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,679 it would be treated as a general fund. 821 01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:03,199 It's solely the discretion of the 822 01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:05,280 council if you wanted to set it up as a 823 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,080 revolving fund. So my recommendation was 824 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,960 to to get in those first years see what 825 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,840 the actual utilization was there would 826 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,000 have been a 827 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,080 I don't know dollar increase in the fee 828 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,159 but that final decision solely the city 829 01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:23,840 council in terms of how you account for 830 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,360 that how you expend the money and how 831 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,159 you retain the money 832 01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:30,159 >> I think that was that was the sore point 833 01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:31,920 at that point in time why didn't win 834 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,639 because of that not being revolving 835 01:29:34,639 --> 01:29:37,120 where where it's going to happen Who's 836 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,760 how do we fund it? I mean, if you if I 837 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,360 have to bring it back and make it a a 838 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,639 revolving um fund 839 01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:44,080 >> be a little more expensive. 840 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,960 >> No, we can revisit it. 841 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,040 >> I don't think we we want people to pay 842 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,840 into something and they're not getting 843 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,840 the benefit. 844 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,280 >> And I think that was that was one of the 845 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,440 reason why it was it wasn't shut down. 846 01:29:57,440 --> 01:29:59,120 It was it was question was asked. 847 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,320 >> Well, Mr. Chairman, so my thought was 848 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,600 because Mr. So far's been uh relatively 849 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,920 successful securing grant fundings for 850 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,920 the city. I was thinking that's what my 851 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,360 question was along those lines. Is there 852 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:12,639 something that maybe we could even 853 01:30:12,639 --> 01:30:15,360 leverage that if there's something 854 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,120 existing that aligns with that maybe we 855 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,080 could leverage it bring the cost lower 856 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,560 even for participants and then and then 857 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,239 obviously we can you know talk about 858 01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:28,080 what it looks like revolving or not. 859 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,360 That's just something that, you know, 860 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,679 I'd like to see it come back if indeed 861 01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:32,639 there's something out there. 862 01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:34,800 >> So, we got $22 million on the intended 863 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,800 use plan. We have to see how we score 864 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,280 for that. Again, that's a request. They 865 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,719 can say you get four. You can say you 866 01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:42,719 get one. It's not going to help a lot 867 01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:44,400 because we know there's probably quite a 868 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,639 few lead services still within the city. 869 01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:49,360 >> Um, but also if you have this policy, 870 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,600 it's a fund to draw off of rather than, 871 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,679 you know, we don't own the services 872 01:30:53,679 --> 01:30:55,440 currently. They're owned by the 873 01:30:55,440 --> 01:31:00,320 residents. So the thing is is okay we got to replace 874 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,560 them but they're not our responsibility 875 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:03,679 but the federal government's going to 876 01:31:03,679 --> 01:31:06,159 say they are our responsibility and if 877 01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:09,760 we have to do it by 2037 which somebody 878 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,159 else here but um it's going to have to 879 01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:13,199 get done and the funds are going to have 880 01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:15,920 to be found. So I don't know how you 881 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,679 know I mean I have my ideas but I'll 882 01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:20,960 keep them for myself right now. 883 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,120 >> Um how many surveys did we get back in 884 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,440 the mail? Um we're still doing it. We're 885 01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:27,840 going to start a round of um we'll call 886 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,679 boots on the ground because a lot of 887 01:31:29,679 --> 01:31:31,600 people have not responded. A lot of 888 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,320 people um they um they they just don't 889 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,040 want to us in their homes or you know 890 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,120 when we have to get into the home uh to 891 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,159 determine what's coming through the 892 01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:41,280 seller wall, whether it's copper, 893 01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:42,320 whether it's lead, whether it's 894 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:47,280 galvanized. Um so there is a um a group 895 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:48,960 that's going to come in put some boots 896 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,080 on the ground for us. Leave cards. uh 897 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,840 will accommodate them even if it's and 898 01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,080 we know some people are working u but 899 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,440 we've had some guys in the water wells 900 01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:59,360 that have gone out after 5:00 to meet 901 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,880 with people but it's been very very slow 902 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,639 um the response just isn't there 903 01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:10,320 >> thank you Mr. I I think that this would 904 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,239 be I know I brought this up briefly 905 01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:14,400 before. I don't know um if anyone acted 906 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,920 on it, but I think especially right now 907 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,000 as kids are returning to school, people 908 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,840 are coming in, parents are filling out a 909 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,679 lot of paperwork, so they we have a 910 01:32:21,679 --> 01:32:26,560 little bit of a, you know, a very uh 911 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:27,840 audience that's paying a lot of 912 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,520 attention to what these communications 913 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,199 are not are like. So, I think that that 914 01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:32,639 would be a really good opportunity for 915 01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,159 the city to kind of work with the school 916 01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:35,760 district to say, "Hey, this is the 917 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,120 information that we're trying to get. 918 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,159 Could you put this in your, you know, 919 01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:42,239 registration packets, uh, your back to 920 01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:43,520 school type of thing?" I think that if 921 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,280 we did it, attached it to that probably 922 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,440 have the greatest success rate. 923 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,199 >> Probably possibly do some flyers to 924 01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:52,159 students to bring home. I mean, just to, 925 01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:55,520 you know, get the attention and again 926 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,520 scheduling an appointment. Um, you know, 927 01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,679 and I know a lot of people work, but 928 01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:03,280 we're willing to do it, you know, in the early evening hours when we do 929 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,440 get home, you know, and we do send two 930 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:09,990 people um to a property. 931 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,040 » Any other go? 932 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,639 >> Yeah. So, you said you have you're 933 01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:14,320 hiring a firm or you have a firm to the 934 01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:14,639 boot. 935 01:33:14,639 --> 01:33:16,000 >> There is a firm. Yes. 936 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,080 >> So, that we've already hired. 937 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,480 >> Yes. It's a minority firm local here in 938 01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:22,960 Connecticut um that is willing to um put 939 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,560 some individuals out to work with us. 940 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,400 Yes. And that's been going through Alpha 941 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,480 Harbor Associates and interviewed them 942 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:31,199 and we did meet with them um in room 9. 943 01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:32,639 So, okay. 944 01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:34,800 >> Um, and you said the 22 million 945 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,239 requests. Could you just 946 01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:37,280 >> 26 million? 947 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:38,159 >> 26. 948 01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:39,199 >> Yes. There 949 01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:40,159 >> four million. Go ahead. 950 01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:42,239 >> There's different grants. There is the u 951 01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:46,000 the the bill money, the WEIA money. Um, 952 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,000 there's different funding um areas that 953 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,000 we got the money. So, out of the $26 954 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,600 million um you know, and you know, the 955 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,880 loan, we had to increase the bond so 956 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,920 that we maximize the loan in a sense. 957 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:03,199 Um, so all the loan will be dedicated to 958 01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:04,239 the project. 959 01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:04,800 >> Okay. 960 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,880 >> So we could, you know, we couldn't have 961 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,320 the the project being less than the 962 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,400 loan. So we're going to, you know, so 963 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,400 that's where it is. And like I said, the 964 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,560 last $10 million, the one final grant is 965 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,360 for $10 million and that is the 25% 966 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,840 match. So we'll be responsible for 2.5 967 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,520 million, but uh we'll get a 0% interest 968 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,480 because we qualify for hardship loan. So 969 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:31,679 it'll be payback is 0%. 970 01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:32,719 >> Thank you. 971 01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:34,480 >> Are there any other question on item 972 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,040 number two? 973 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,400 >> Seeing none, we have a motion to move 974 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,000 forward. Item number two. 975 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:42,800 >> So moved. 976 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,400 >> Second. All in favor? 977 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,239 >> I 978 01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:51,040 next item is amended and restated. 979 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,880 First supplemental bond ordinance for 980 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,280 Rice River Road. 981 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,280 I think I believe commissioner fond 982 01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,560 every ready to tackle this issue. 983 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,800 So we talked about them together. 984 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,600 >> Yeah. 985 01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,840 >> Are there any question regarding this? 986 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,199 >> Seeing none may have a motion to move 987 01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:07,760 forward. 988 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:08,639 >> So move second. 989 01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:09,840 >> All in favor? 990 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,560 >> I thank you. Um 991 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,400 >> thanks for coming. 992 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,080 >> Mr. Chairman, I just want to bring to 993 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,600 the council's attention the bond 994 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,880 ordinances both for items two and three 995 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,880 were previously prepared by bound bond 996 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,000 council for next week's uh meeting and I 997 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,400 think you got that a couple weeks ago 998 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,679 just for the record. Thank you. 999 01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:34,159 >> The next item is the 2026 budget calling 1000 01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:37,920 for public hearing. Mr. 1001 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,040 >> Can you believe it's that time of the 1002 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,560 year again? Um, we're looking to uh do a 1003 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,600 public hearing October 14, 2025 for the 1004 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:50,000 2026 uh budget. 1005 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,000 >> This is straightforward. 1006 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,000 Are there any question? Seeing no, may I 1007 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,760 have a motion to call for public hearing 1008 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,080 October 146 1009 01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:58,880 budget? 1010 01:35:58,880 --> 01:35:59,360 >> So moved. 1011 01:35:59,360 --> 01:35:59,760 >> Second. 1012 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,159 >> All in favor? I 1013 01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:04,159 >> may I have a motion to adjourn? 1014 01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:06,880 >> Can I ask a question? 1015 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,040 >> Go ahead, please. 1016 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,760 This is um actually kind of it's about 1017 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:16,480 finances. So um 1018 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:19,199 I I this is kind of I just saw this 1019 01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:21,360 recently and it has to do with how we're 1020 01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,360 collecting um a certain amount of money 1021 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,120 and how I want to know how that figured 1022 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,560 into our budget where it showed on the 1023 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,960 line. But the um stickers that we're 1024 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,360 selling for trash. Yes. 1025 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:36,080 um the the infant leads I came to get to 1026 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,360 some to hand out to people because they 1027 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,440 weren't doing it properly and on the 1028 01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:41,120 bottom it says that you can only pay for 1029 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,480 those in cash. So I wasn't really clear 1030 01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:46,159 on why that is. 1031 01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:49,280 >> Not 100% sure on that. Um I talked to 1032 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,440 receipts 1033 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:55,679 on um wasn't aware of that. Um, I wasn't 1034 01:36:55,679 --> 01:36:57,280 until the other day when I was trying to 1035 01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:58,239 give it to someone and they were like, 1036 01:36:58,239 --> 01:37:00,080 "Well, you know, I want would prefer to 1037 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,840 pay it by credit card and do all that, 1038 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,920 but it clearly says you can only buy it 1039 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,560 with cash." So, and then and I didn't 1040 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,360 know how that showed up in the budget. 1041 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:10,960 >> There's a budget. There's a line item in 1042 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,199 the budget um for that specifically. I 1043 01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:17,280 sent that to you. 1044 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,639 >> So, there's a line item for the 1045 01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:20,159 stickers. 1046 01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,239 >> Both items 1047 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:23,199 for the bold items. 1048 01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:26,480 >> Yes. Okay. All right. 1049 01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:28,880 So, who should I ask about or or will 1050 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,800 you ask about the cash? 1051 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,159 >> Well, I could ask ours department issue. 1052 01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:36,960 >> All right. If you would let us know. 1053 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,199 >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1054 01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:41,280 >> Motion to adjourn finance. 1055 01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:41,920 >> So move. 1056 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,920 >> Second. 1057 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,280 >> All in favor? 1058 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:45,679 >> I. 1059 01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:46,400 >> Thank you. 1060 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,639 >> Good time. 1061 01:37:48,639 --> 01:37:50,080 >> Like to call to order government 1062 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,679 operations. We have one item on the 1063 01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:53,119 agenda that is announcing the court 1064 01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:55,600 order council. 1065 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,840 >> Thank you. Uh so I'm very excited to be 1066 01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,840 before you all at this juncture. Um I'd 1067 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,360 like to say definitely had it uh 1068 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,480 growth uh for me specifically with uh 1069 01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:09,280 respect to identifying select group of 1070 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,040 individuals to take on a task that's 1071 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,800 never been like identified before and 1072 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,360 just grow together. Uh so I'm pleased to 1073 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,880 announce that uh I received uh five 1074 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,040 votes um from the committee who is 1075 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,159 looking to select Adonis Richards as 1076 01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:26,560 this connect's inaugural pro laureate. 1077 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,560 Um before I get into the background of 1078 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,320 how they arrive at that juncture, I 1079 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,239 would say at this point what I'm asking 1080 01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:34,639 of the council is to support that 1081 01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:36,480 nomination and then it would continue 1082 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:39,520 along to our council meeting for a full 1083 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,480 vote next week. Um, sincerely, I am not 1084 01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:44,400 one that says that they know everything. 1085 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,480 Um, I think it started with an idea of 1086 01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,320 how do we capture another voice for our 1087 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,199 community. Um, I think in identifying in 1088 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,199 all of our roles, how do we get into 1089 01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:56,000 that uh absent any bias I think from all 1090 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,000 of our seats and positions and that was 1091 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,760 creating a space with community 1092 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,840 representation from our local academic 1093 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,760 institutions and then some community 1094 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,960 members. Um, one of the takeaways that I 1095 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,040 noticed was doing that with our academic 1096 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,639 institutions during the summer where 1097 01:39:10,639 --> 01:39:12,400 they have time off and then as they get 1098 01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,880 back to school made the timeline uh a 1099 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,719 little more challenging. Um, but I would 1100 01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:18,800 say is throughout the discussions it has 1101 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,960 been nothing short of just very 1102 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,600 authentic collaboration. Um, and all the 1103 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,199 members were understanding that this is 1104 01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:26,719 a process that is meant to grow and 1105 01:39:26,719 --> 01:39:30,239 develop over time. Um 1106 01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:33,600 I would say uh the intent never was to 1107 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,920 start with a perfect process but was one 1108 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,800 of how do we just continue to move and 1109 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,159 position the efforts forward. Um so one 1110 01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:44,080 of the key takeaways was communication 1111 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,000 and I think naturally that is an area of 1112 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,080 concern we've always identified um with 1113 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:49,440 any of our efforts just how do we 1114 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:51,440 properly inform the community and the 1115 01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:53,760 hope is with this position uh they would 1116 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,639 serve as an additional just century with 1117 01:39:56,639 --> 01:39:58,960 just communicating things um providing a 1118 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,280 different perspective um but also one of 1119 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,520 the takeaways was expectation and I 1120 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,199 think that is something that doesn't 1121 01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:08,159 fall short of anyone um it's going to be 1122 01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:09,840 essential that this individual although 1123 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,800 it is currently unpaid um understands 1124 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,960 that this is a multi-directional 1125 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,719 opportunity, one that allows them to 1126 01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:19,600 leverage the title of Pope Lori um but 1127 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,040 also one that comes with a series of 1128 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:22,800 expectations because you'd be taking on 1129 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,960 a role that allows you to speak to a 1130 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,520 lesser degree for this city of Skenctity 1131 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,800 in certain efforts. Um so I'm happy to 1132 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,960 answer any questions or concerns. Um but 1133 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,239 sincerely I think uh from where this 1134 01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:38,480 started to where we arrived uh I can 1135 01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:40,239 confidently sit here before you all and 1136 01:40:40,239 --> 01:40:43,119 say that this is uh I think the best 1137 01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:45,760 candidate out of who applied and I would 1138 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,280 like to say out of the individuals who 1139 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,960 were presented with the opportunity. I 1140 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,000 think it was nothing um was recognized 1141 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,679 of a missed opportunity. It was more or 1142 01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:55,600 less of how do I stay engaged throughout 1143 01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,440 this process? how do I contribute in 1144 01:40:57,440 --> 01:40:59,600 different facets to ensure that they are 1145 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,880 supporting whoever uh the council elects 1146 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,920 to further support moving forward. Um 1147 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,960 that was one thing that I noticed uh was 1148 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,040 very ethic that everyone had the best 1149 01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,880 intent for the city at their hearts. So 1150 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,119 I just want to say congratulations 1151 01:41:17,119 --> 01:41:19,600 >> Mr. Williams. I think that this and I 1152 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,400 initially I um wasn't necessarily a 1153 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,320 naysayer but I didn't really appreciate 1154 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,239 I understand the gravity of this which 1155 01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:28,400 is saying a lot you know as you know I 1156 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,880 do my one of the largest poetry shows in 1157 01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,719 the state here right here in Skenctity 1158 01:41:32,719 --> 01:41:36,159 but I couldn't understand um how it 1159 01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:38,719 would really um what it would look like 1160 01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:41,360 in this capacity but going through this 1161 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,520 process and and and and learning more 1162 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,199 about it this is this isn't just 1163 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:48,560 something that is really for um you 1164 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,600 know, you know, expression, but it's 1165 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,639 also this is like a a a way that you 1166 01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:57,600 what they call keepers of culture in the 1167 01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,600 city. And I think that that is a is 1168 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,600 something that is extremely valuable. 1169 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,719 So, I really appreciate that this is um 1170 01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:06,239 something that's happening and I'm proud 1171 01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:08,960 of the entire council and and and 1172 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,320 supporting this. Patrick, 1173 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,480 >> congratulations on coming to a decision. 1174 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,480 I was just wondering how many people did 1175 01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:19,840 apply um for the position. 1176 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,080 >> So, I'd say four. Um and I think that is 1177 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,199 a number that's not missed on um I think 1178 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:27,040 the 1179 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,600 that is very very new. Um what I would 1180 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,719 say is it was not surprising but 1181 01:42:32,719 --> 01:42:35,520 definitely a point of consideration for 1182 01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,360 two individuals who stayed tuned in 1183 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,639 throughout the duration of all these 1184 01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:40,880 discussions. I thought that that 1185 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,159 identified that there are people that 1186 01:42:42,159 --> 01:42:43,840 continuously watch our council meetings 1187 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,480 which I thought was a very important 1188 01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:48,480 fact to underline but one that showed 1189 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:50,320 their deep rooted just interest in 1190 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,880 seeing this forward. Um I was very 1191 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,840 intentional at keeping um boundaries 1192 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,920 between um interested parties and 1193 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,159 ensuring that my only comments to them 1194 01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:03,360 was uh keeping them breast of moving. Um 1195 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,679 but even myself I have not looking 1196 01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:07,520 looked at the packets. I think truly 1197 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,440 wanting to trust the process and trust 1198 01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:11,199 that the committee members made these 1199 01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:13,679 decisions based on uh the materials that 1200 01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:15,280 put before them and also the criteria 1201 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,639 that they were looking to grade these 1202 01:43:16,639 --> 01:43:18,880 individuals on. Um what I've seen in 1203 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,199 other municipalities is there's been a 1204 01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:24,639 very key uh structure and I think that 1205 01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:26,000 is one that we can build here should 1206 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,159 this position be as viable as I know it 1207 01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:29,679 can be but one that the community is 1208 01:43:29,679 --> 01:43:31,920 going to receive also. So I think with 1209 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,080 some renditions in mind I think we can 1210 01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:38,639 get to the level that uh St. Louis was a municipality looked at a lot. We had a 1211 01:43:38,639 --> 01:43:41,840 very well structured polaroid program. I 1212 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,920 think Saratoga is there as well. So I 1213 01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,719 think we can get there. 1214 01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:49,760 >> A couple more comments. Um I do think um 1215 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,840 obviously we have to see how successful 1216 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,639 this is. Um, but I we had talked about 1217 01:43:54,639 --> 01:43:57,440 this earlier, but I think if we want to 1218 01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:59,600 move forward with this in future future 1219 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,199 years, and that was my other question is 1220 01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:03,600 when when will we officially like start 1221 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,920 doing some work and really be in the 1222 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,520 schools and and that kind of thing, but 1223 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,520 I think in the future again I think a 1224 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,040 small stipend um almost like an 1225 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,600 honorarium. I know the budget's really 1226 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,040 uh bad, so we're not talking about a lot 1227 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,480 of money. And again, it's something 1228 01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:19,920 where you might be able to get we might 1229 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,360 be able to get grant funding for 1230 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,159 something like this. Um, so I just want 1231 01:44:24,159 --> 01:44:26,000 to be on the record saying that as we 1232 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,199 move forward and then um, also I hope 1233 01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:31,360 that in the f I mean I think it's really 1234 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:32,800 important we should reach out to the New 1235 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,280 York State Writers Institute who handles 1236 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,040 our state poet laurate and our state uh, 1237 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,520 author and at least you know say hey 1238 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,480 we're on record we've got this uh, young 1239 01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:46,320 person that's going to be our poet 1240 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,880 laurate and you know who knows they may 1241 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,639 want to have um, Adonis come and you 1242 01:44:52,639 --> 01:44:54,239 know be part of their schedule at some 1243 01:44:54,239 --> 01:44:57,830 point as well. 1244 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,639 » I I I would add that I think that what 1245 01:45:00,639 --> 01:45:02,880 was really helpful what I saw as far as 1246 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,639 how the council operated this process 1247 01:45:04,639 --> 01:45:08,480 was that there were um questions and 1248 01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:10,560 rooted in genuine interest in ensuring 1249 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,199 that this was something that is really 1250 01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:14,800 uh 1251 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,440 valuable for the city. And I think that, 1252 01:45:17,440 --> 01:45:20,159 you know, when Miss Patrick brought up a 1253 01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:22,080 question before around like being like 1254 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,400 published author and that, you know, 1255 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,719 initially that was like I think that 1256 01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:28,320 that's something cuz I wanted to make it 1257 01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,400 inclusive and then it it it developed 1258 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,000 into the dialogue of like well what does 1259 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,480 publish mean and really added depth and 1260 01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:36,239 value to the conversation. So again, I'm 1261 01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:37,840 really happy the way that that happened. 1262 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:39,280 Um, I think that this is something that 1263 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,000 we could grow and and and to grow and 1264 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,239 adapt and I think that there is some 1265 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:46,880 unforeseen pro value as once this once 1266 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,480 it went gets wrong and I think that 1267 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,080 we'll see. So I just want to add that 1268 01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,480 and we'll close up. So uh so I do want 1269 01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:54,239 to go on record saying I was not opposed 1270 01:45:54,239 --> 01:45:56,719 to having an honorarium. I think having 1271 01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:58,719 that expectation be in addition to the 1272 01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:01,360 magnitude of this I think that would 1273 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,679 >> unfortunately I think it would be a very 1274 01:46:03,679 --> 01:46:05,520 big expectations going into this. I 1275 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,760 think for me personally and my 1276 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,199 perspective wasn't included. This was 1277 01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,040 truly the the committees wanted to have 1278 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,600 someone that was authentically uh in 1279 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,840 this this mode of communication and it 1280 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:20,639 was one that the two applicants that it technically boiled down to that 1281 01:46:20,639 --> 01:46:23,440 they both possessed. Um, but I also 1282 01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:25,360 wanted to add in what I thought was very 1283 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:29,119 organic was uh the desire to after this 1284 01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:31,760 selection was publicized or or made 1285 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,800 public that the committee would invite 1286 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,960 to hear from the selected polar in a 1287 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:40,000 social gathering 1288 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,719 >> just to have that um um I think natural 1289 01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:47,040 development of communication under 1290 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,520 underway. uh in our legislation 1291 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,239 identified like uh touch points of 6 1292 01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:53,040 months 1293 01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,639 >> looking for an assessment back and they 1294 01:46:54,639 --> 01:46:56,159 were like we can't be effective if we 1295 01:46:56,159 --> 01:46:57,679 wait 6 months like we would like to do 1296 01:46:57,679 --> 01:46:59,679 much. So it was it was beautiful to see 1297 01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:01,760 them understanding the expectations and 1298 01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,000 then developing these along the way and 1299 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,920 I'm happy to let them kind of take this 1300 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,600 and run with it and I look forward to 1301 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,119 what they're going to report back in 6 1302 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,440 months. 1303 01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:14,000 Um my question is so will we get like 1304 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,040 some timeline or expectation or how this 1305 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,560 is going to move forward where this 1306 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,679 person will present you know those kind 1307 01:47:21,679 --> 01:47:23,679 of things is that that kind of timeline 1308 01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:26,400 been u worked out or will it be worked 1309 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,639 out so we have a way to like put it out 1310 01:47:28,639 --> 01:47:30,400 there for people to let them know it's 1311 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,080 connecting out poet Lauren who will be 1312 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,080 performing here or doing or what's where 1313 01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,159 do they do their interural thing and if 1314 01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:37,600 you don't have those answers that's fine 1315 01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:39,199 but I just want to know if that kind of 1316 01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:41,840 thing is going to be mapped out uh as as 1317 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:42,880 we move forward. 1318 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:44,480 >> I can take that note. What I've 1319 01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:46,000 identified in other municipalities is 1320 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,159 there's like a formal ask for them to 1321 01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:51,840 create uh a body of work to speak at 1322 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,520 certain engagements. Um but I think 1323 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,760 there was also an intentionality to uh 1324 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,080 having um partnerships with the school 1325 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,159 districts um and our academic 1326 01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:02,560 institutions naturally. Um but to answer 1327 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,000 your point, I think we can develop a 1328 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,360 calendar or I'll present that to the 1329 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,000 committee and they can have discussions 1330 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,600 with the lawyer and then report back to 1331 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:10,239 us. 1332 01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:10,719 >> Thank you. 1333 01:48:10,719 --> 01:48:13,119 >> Uh so we think that we have to think 1334 01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:17,840 about what as we our expectation should 1335 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,159 at least be close relative to our 1336 01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:22,000 investment, right? So if we're having 1337 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:23,600 this person and having an expectation 1338 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,760 for them to 1339 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,600 have this level of commitment, then we 1340 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:28,960 have to really start asking ourselves 1341 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:30,239 like what are you know how are we going 1342 01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:32,560 to be able to come up with you know some 1343 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,639 level even if it's not maybe like even 1344 01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:35,520 grants like you were saying like 1345 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:36,800 something to at least be active to make 1346 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:37,760 sure that there's some level of 1347 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,520 compensation. I know we're not there 1348 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:40,719 yet. I'm just saying something to keep 1349 01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:42,080 in mind while we start to have 1350 01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,440 expectations for people. You know that's 1351 01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:48,960 a lot of time and preparation to do it. 1352 01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,960 Any of Mr. Sir, 1353 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,440 >> thank you. So I guess my how many I 1354 01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:55,920 forget how many individuals were on the 1355 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,920 board to select that. You had five votes 1356 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,239 for Adonis. How many? 1357 01:49:00,239 --> 01:49:01,920 >> So I'd say there were originally six. 1358 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,159 One of the areas of concern or one of 1359 01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:06,239 the areas that we noted was trying to 1360 01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:07,840 look at it from a unique lens from the 1361 01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:09,679 perspective of union. Uh so they 1362 01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:11,520 identified a student that was in the 1363 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,920 loyal uh program. It's very very 1364 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,199 prominent. Um, I think the nature of the 1365 01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:18,639 bases, they were a student that did not 1366 01:49:18,639 --> 01:49:21,040 live in the area and they went through 1367 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,280 some tough circumstances. So, it made 1368 01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,920 their ability to weigh in on these 1369 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,360 discussions very difficult. And what I 1370 01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,040 didn't want to do was to replace someone 1371 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,679 mid discussions. Um, especially without 1372 01:49:31,679 --> 01:49:33,280 having that discussion with the council 1373 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,280 because we are we were already in a 1374 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,280 tight deadline. Um, I think with 1375 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,280 consideration to the process, I think 1376 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:42,639 having an odd number was uh valuable. 1377 01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:44,719 Um, but I would like to have discussions 1378 01:49:44,719 --> 01:49:46,320 again with Union to see if that is 1379 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:47,679 something that we can replace, which I'm 1380 01:49:47,679 --> 01:49:49,760 confident we are. I just wanted to be 1381 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,480 respectful of the natural or the organic 1382 01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:54,560 chemistry that already happened absent 1383 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,960 their uh feedback and then not just want 1384 01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:58,239 to throw them into the process last 1385 01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:01,520 minute just to fill a seat. 1386 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,360 >> Thank you. So, I guess my other question 1387 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,920 was I had put forward about copyright uh 1388 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,639 Adonis comes up with this big uh has 1389 01:50:08,639 --> 01:50:10,880 that been addressed was 1390 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,199 >> uh copyright. So with that put comes up 1391 01:50:13,199 --> 01:50:15,360 well he's the poet laurate for the city 1392 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,560 of Skenkity um and he writes a poem 1393 01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,440 that's or you know puts a poem out there 1394 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:23,440 that goes 1395 01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:26,320 big time he gets accreditation for it um 1396 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,880 a lot of royalties 1397 01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,360 who's deserving of those royalties in 1398 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,520 addition to himself because he wrote it 1399 01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:34,800 for the city 1400 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,760 >> um question I had put that forward prior 1401 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,000 I I I don't know I'm just saying 1402 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,600 >> I would say it wasn't presented to 1403 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:42,639 formally. I think it was just a matter 1404 01:50:42,639 --> 01:50:44,639 of discussion at and then I we laid in 1405 01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:46,800 on it. Uh 1406 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,280 >> uh in all of my review I've never seen 1407 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,480 it as a point of concern. Uh so I 1408 01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:54,239 naturally haven't recognized an instance 1409 01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:55,760 in which that would be a matter of 1410 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,480 issue. Um to me personally it would be 1411 01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:00,880 the body of work of the the author. But 1412 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,800 I think if something rose to that level 1413 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,840 where we were requesting to be a 1414 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,000 recipient of truly something that was 1415 01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,560 their work, I think that that could be a 1416 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,000 disc or I would imagine that'd be a 1417 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,760 discussion with the committee to to 1418 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,679 discuss internally and then we would 1419 01:51:15,679 --> 01:51:18,560 kind of hear back from them. I I would 1420 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:22,470 think that 1421 01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:27,280 when you if the city we had requests for 1422 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,760 um an artist to I I guess in our world 1423 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,199 sometimes you can hire artists to 1424 01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:33,360 commission some work like we can say or 1425 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,600 we can request that you know there's a 1426 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:40,159 piece of work that's done that is um 1427 01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:43,520 done for a specific reason for something 1428 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:47,760 that's for the city and I think that might sometimes land outside the 1429 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:49,679 scope of what we're talking about here. 1430 01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:53,360 A poet um often times isn't necessarily 1431 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,679 always reciting their own original work. 1432 01:51:55,679 --> 01:51:57,599 Depending on what the circumstance is, a 1433 01:51:57,599 --> 01:52:00,320 poet could you know recite another piece 1434 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:04,719 that is relevant to whatever uh event or 1435 01:52:04,719 --> 01:52:07,199 with whatever happens is going on. Um, 1436 01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:10,560 so I think that to I would say 1437 01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,119 I would give a a high level of caution 1438 01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:14,960 have to consider like ourselves as a 1439 01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,119 city as someone who can take ownership 1440 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,360 of any level and anyone's like art or 1441 01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,360 intellectual property for that matter. I 1442 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,239 have this Patrick and I right. 1443 01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:26,159 >> Yeah, I guess that's something that I 1444 01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:28,239 guess could involve, but I'd want to 1445 01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:30,560 hear from councel and I mean will we be 1446 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,560 having a letter of commitment to Mr. 1447 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:33,599 Richards? 1448 01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:35,360 >> Um, 1449 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,360 you know what I'm saying? like I mean he 1450 01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:39,760 obviously would have to be told that 1451 01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,400 he's going to become the poet laurate he 1452 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,960 was accepted he was selected um so that 1453 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,480 would probably be something in writing 1454 01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:50,960 but I don't know and I guess also what do other municipalities you know 1455 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,440 since we do have other models out there 1456 01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:54,960 um 1457 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:56,239 but I think that's a good point about 1458 01:52:56,239 --> 01:52:57,679 they could be reading somebody else's 1459 01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:00,080 poem depending on the ceremony that we 1460 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,280 invite them to read at 1461 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,760 >> um Mr. Chairman, I mean this was, you 1462 01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,199 know, looking at your legislation, this 1463 01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:09,760 is an or honorary designation, neither 1464 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,800 an employee nor 1465 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,280 an officer of the city of Skenctity. And the legislation doesn't say that 1466 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,040 there was any commission works. 1467 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,850 >> Correct. 1468 01:53:20,850 --> 01:53:22,800 [Music] 1469 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,880 >> If this was a comm if if if you 1470 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,639 commission then that would be, you know, 1471 01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:28,400 then the ownership would be from the 1472 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,560 person who's commissioning the work. 1473 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,360 >> Absolutely. Mhm. Yep. 1474 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,520 >> Um the only thing the thing that I can 1475 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,560 um compare this to is like several years 1476 01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,320 ago there was someone who wrote a new 1477 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,719 song, the city song. 1478 01:53:42,719 --> 01:53:44,960 >> Um so the question what else can I call 1479 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,320 it? So who owns that work? I guess 1480 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,000 becomes my question and my understanding 1481 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,440 is the person that wrote the song. They 1482 01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,199 were just writing it about city. So I 1483 01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:55,520 think this is a similar circumstance but 1484 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,920 we certainly can take a look at who owns 1485 01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,639 that particular song. And when you come 1486 01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:01,920 back and tell us, could you please sing 1487 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:02,400 it as well? 1488 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,800 >> That wasn't a song. I wasn't here song. 1489 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,560 I think that song was commissioned by 1490 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,480 the city and the official song has been 1491 01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:10,320 adopted through the city code. 1492 01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,639 >> So that was a city song. Okay. 1493 01:54:12,639 --> 01:54:14,239 >> Wasn't commissioned, but it was written 1494 01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:19,040 by there was some formal adoption. 1495 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:19,520 So, 1496 01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,400 >> so the city owns 1497 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,400 >> we should be singing that every 1498 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:28,229 >> Yes, we should. 1499 01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:30,719 » So there's I think that's then it shows 1500 01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:32,080 the difference between what's been 1501 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,440 discussed here and what happened with 1502 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,520 the song. 1503 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:39,360 >> Okay. Any further questions, comments on 1504 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,000 that? We don't need to take a number of 1505 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,119 them. 1506 01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:45,040 >> I'm sorry. I just want to point CL. 1507 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,679 >> Yes, if I can just follow. Do you have a 1508 01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:50,239 name? The resolution calls for at your 1509 01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:51,760 first council meeting, the council 1510 01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,320 designates the person. So, a brief 1511 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:58,159 resolution. I can do a brief resolution 1512 01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:00,560 formally doing that. 1513 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,800 >> Okay. I entertain the motion. Oh, did 1514 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:03,520 you have questions? 1515 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:07,040 >> No. I entertain a motion to 1516 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:08,080 >> I will um 1517 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,719 >> second 1518 01:55:10,719 --> 01:55:12,719 >> I'll make the motion that we uh accept 1519 01:55:12,719 --> 01:55:15,520 the committee's recommendation of Adonis 1520 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,639 Richards as the uh inaugural poet 1521 01:55:18,639 --> 01:55:21,280 laurate for the city of Sket. 1522 01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:22,639 >> All those in favor 1523 01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:26,149 >> I 1524 01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:27,440 nothing else to come before government 1525 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,840 operations 1526 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:30,960 motion to close. 1527 01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,920 >> So move second. Those in favor, you're 1528 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:34,880 return. 1529 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,760 >> Thank you. I'd like to call to order 1530 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,840 city development and planning. We have 1531 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,080 11 items on the agenda now. And the 1532 01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,360 first one is review proposed 202526 HUD 1533 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,520 annual action plan. The public hearing 1534 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:51,119 was uh held on August 25th. We did have 1535 01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:54,000 one speaker. 1536 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,400 Good evening, city council mayor. I'm 1537 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,040 here before you asking for you to accept 1538 01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,920 the proposed final um the proposed 1539 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,960 annual action plan allocations as our 1540 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,239 final 1541 01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:08,880 >> allocations. 1542 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,280 Are there any questions? Yes, M. 1543 01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:12,880 >> I I have several. I'm sorry I wasn't 1544 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,880 here last week, although I did watch it, 1545 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,760 so I did see the person that that spoke. 1546 01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,440 Um so I have a couple of general 1547 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,119 questions and I have some specific 1548 01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:23,280 questions about the source the uh 1549 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:24,960 funding allocations. 1550 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,239 >> Sure. Um so the first is um when we talk 1551 01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:30,560 about Habitat for Humanity which is on 1552 01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,400 um well page 15 of our packet I guess 1553 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:38,239 was the second page of the the grid. Um 1554 01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:40,159 I was just wondering it says funds will 1555 01:56:40,159 --> 01:56:43,920 be used to construct one twostory house 1556 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,159 but then later it says both houses will 1557 01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:48,560 meet Energy Star standards. So I just 1558 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,239 wasn't sure if it was one house or two. 1559 01:56:50,239 --> 01:56:53,760 >> It's a typo. originally was two, but 1560 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,239 they got funded for one because they 1561 01:56:56,239 --> 01:56:58,560 went into a contract for one of the 1562 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,159 units which is which is a choice 1563 01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:02,320 limiting action and not allowed for the 1564 01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,480 funding source being used. 1565 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:09,430 >> Okay. So the $239,232 1566 01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:10,639 is for one. 1567 01:57:10,639 --> 01:57:12,880 >> No, it was cut in half, right? 1568 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,360 >> No, the Let me get to the page. My 1569 01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:16,000 apologies. 1570 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,760 >> That's okay. The I can tell you that the 1571 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,520 requested funding was 47. 1572 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,920 >> Yes. So that is half of Yes. So that is 1573 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,080 correct. That is for one. Okay. Do we 1574 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,400 need to um 1575 01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,239 Oh, I guess we need to change the 1576 01:57:28,239 --> 01:57:30,000 description or are we okay? 1577 01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,239 >> I can I can change I can change that 1578 01:57:32,239 --> 01:57:33,520 directly. 1579 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,480 >> And then um under city property rehab 1580 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,400 and ownership program. Um well no now 1581 01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,159 that question I don't need to ask 1582 01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:44,800 because so that money is okay for one 1583 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,960 house $200,000. 1584 01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,040 >> That's correct. have as a party it's 1585 01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,040 earmarked for one particular project. 1586 01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:59,679 >> Okay. And then um under on page the next page um 1587 01:57:59,679 --> 01:58:05,040 so the Hamilton Hill Arts Center went from 1588 01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:10,639 last year 40,000 to 150,000. Um is so is 1589 01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:12,960 it because of the number of children or 1590 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:13,199 um 1591 01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:15,440 >> the number of children their record with 1592 01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,840 they have they had a one of the top 1593 01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,639 applications okay submitted. 1594 01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:22,880 >> Okay very thorough they've shown 1595 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,679 significant um improvement in reporting 1596 01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:27,040 and spending now. 1597 01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,760 >> Excellent. Excellent. And then uh the 1598 01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:31,920 next one 1599 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,400 same thing. It was a a very large um 1600 01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,719 increase for the um Skencti Youth 1601 01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:39,280 Coalition and I just was wondering if we 1602 01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,080 had a sense of again is it because 1603 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,000 numbers served or what the 1604 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,080 >> So with the youth coalition which serves 1605 01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,119 12 organizations they had organizations 1606 01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:51,840 apply outside of the youth organization. 1607 01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,920 So what we did was we didn't separate 1608 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,679 them from the youth organization. We 1609 01:58:55,679 --> 01:58:59,520 just increase the youth coalition amount 1610 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:00,880 to fund. 1611 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,679 >> Okay. Great. So they had about four 1612 01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:06,080 organizations that are part of youth 1613 01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,320 coalition that applied separately. 1614 01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,199 >> Excellent. Okay. Um sorry, I just wanted 1615 01:59:11,199 --> 01:59:12,480 to get this 1616 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,880 >> absolutely the number. So the next page 1617 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:18,320 on the mom starts here program. I 1618 01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,639 actually just hadn't heard of that um 1619 01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:23,760 program yet. And um 1620 01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,400 is it out of the hospital? Is it is it 1621 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,800 with another healthcare organization? 1622 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,639 And is it a 501c3 or 1623 01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:33,199 >> It is a 501c3 and is in the city's 1624 01:59:33,199 --> 01:59:34,880 connected me. They do partner with the 1625 01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,880 hospital but it is not part of the 1626 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:37,520 hospital. 1627 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:38,560 >> Thank you. Um 1628 01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,960 >> and that is a new that is a new fund a 1629 01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:41,760 new 1630 01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:43,760 >> Yes. I I I and the same with the next 1631 01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:45,199 one, Strong Owls. That's a new 1632 01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:46,400 organization also, right? 1633 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:47,119 >> Yes, it is. 1634 01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:49,040 >> Okay. I look forward to hearing more 1635 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:50,400 about about these 1636 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,040 >> new 1637 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,800 >> Oh. Oh, not a new organization 1638 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:57,280 just 1639 01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,360 >> meaning like newly established but a new 1640 01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,159 organization for the city supporting the 1641 02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:02,880 funds. 1642 02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,480 >> Okay. And then um 1643 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,800 this is a minor point but for the boys 1644 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:11,360 and girls club you know I was just 1645 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,280 wishing that we could have found the 1646 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,199 other 3,860. 1647 02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:16,719 It's such a small amount of money that I 1648 02:00:16,719 --> 02:00:17,840 was kind of hoping we 1649 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:19,440 >> you know what it is a small amount of 1650 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:21,199 money but we have cats. They're public 1651 02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,599 service caps. So, we have to once we 1652 02:00:23,599 --> 02:00:26,159 find the amount we take from where to 1653 02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:27,840 kind of make to make it work. 1654 02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,480 >> Okay, that was good for me to know. Um, 1655 02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:34,239 and that is all of my specific 1656 02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:37,679 questions. Um, my other questions just 1657 02:00:37,679 --> 02:00:40,960 um are more general around um do we help 1658 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,040 the organizations that we didn't fully 1659 02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:45,199 fund? Do we try to give them any 1660 02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:47,440 technical assistance in terms of grant, 1661 02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:48,560 you know, trying to look for other 1662 02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:52,320 grants? Um, I was kind of thinking does 1663 02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,679 do you think that your office might 1664 02:00:53,679 --> 02:00:55,520 sometimes do like a grants development 1665 02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:57,360 workshop and invite the invite 1666 02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,320 nonprofits to come and and maybe 1667 02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,440 >> we we currently do not do that. I would 1668 02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:04,719 say that would be something our 1669 02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:06,960 affirmative action officer could 1670 02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,159 possibly do as far as development, but 1671 02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:12,239 we currently don't do that. And most of 1672 02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:14,080 the organizations that didn't get 1673 02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:17,119 funded, the amount that were asked are 1674 02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:19,920 they have multiple funding sources. That 1675 02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:21,760 was actually one of my other um 1676 02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:23,119 questions was whether there was some 1677 02:01:23,119 --> 02:01:24,400 divers, you know, if they were 1678 02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:26,719 diversifying their funding. So great. 1679 02:01:26,719 --> 02:01:29,199 Thank you. I Good work and I appreciate 1680 02:01:29,199 --> 02:01:31,679 all the work that goes into this. So uh 1681 02:01:31,679 --> 02:01:36,000 thank you very much. you knew about 1682 02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:36,560 the other side of it. 1683 02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:37,920 >> So, I want to just say and I hope I 1684 02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,760 don't steal any thunder from anyone else 1685 02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,520 aside from them being a really nice polo 1686 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,639 and city council 1687 02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:48,320 as well. That's my plug. Um I I know we 1688 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:50,400 heard from BC and I at our last council 1689 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:51,760 meeting and I know that they do good 1690 02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:53,199 work within the city. Um but I think 1691 02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:54,719 it's important to make a clarification 1692 02:01:54,719 --> 02:01:56,560 and then also just a statement. I think 1693 02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:00,960 the one it's um no is not a no. It's 1694 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:02,800 making room for others. And I think you 1695 02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:04,880 did a really good job at snapshotting 1696 02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,840 one new program or organization that was 1697 02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:09,920 funded. Uh what I've come to appreciate 1698 02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,440 about our city is that it's about 1699 02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,760 opportunities. So sincerely, I 1700 02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:15,520 appreciate the work that you and your 1701 02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,119 leadership um with your your team has 1702 02:02:19,119 --> 02:02:21,520 identified um creative approaches to 1703 02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:23,280 offer people those opportunities. I know 1704 02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:26,400 you spoke sincerely about uh the YW.CA 1705 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,719 CA during our ARPA application 1706 02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:32,560 discussions and how do we empower other 1707 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,719 lesser known organizations to get to 1708 02:02:34,719 --> 02:02:38,159 that level. Um uh and I think it starts 1709 02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:41,360 by just gradually. Um so I know some 1710 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,760 targets were short of what they were 1711 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,840 asking. Uh but I think it presents the 1712 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:47,440 question to them of 1713 02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,199 >> who else or what other steps can you 1714 02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:50,800 take because the expectation cannot 1715 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:53,360 continuously fall on the city. 1716 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,360 it will short change some other 1717 02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:56,960 organizations. Not to discredit the work 1718 02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,960 that those that have been doing it for a 1719 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,880 long period of time. I think part of it 1720 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,400 is just how do we provide some 1721 02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:03,760 additional opportunities to some new 1722 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,360 people. Um and I think you did well with 1723 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,960 that. So sincerely I think this was the 1724 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,440 first year that I've recognized those 1725 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,040 efforts coming to fruition. So thank you 1726 02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:12,639 and I look forward to what this means 1727 02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:15,360 for the city moving forward. 1728 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,920 >> Um so yeah and I want to um you know 1729 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,760 we've had these discussions before in 1730 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,679 terms of CDBG and I do remember once Mr. 1731 02:03:21,679 --> 02:03:23,199 Rudon was saying that we should be 1732 02:03:23,199 --> 02:03:25,280 looking at different organizations doing 1733 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,520 similar things and why aren't we trying 1734 02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,679 to make sure that we ask them to come 1735 02:03:29,679 --> 02:03:31,040 together and it sounds to me like you 1736 02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:32,639 did that with the coalition that even 1737 02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:35,040 though they applied outside of that that 1738 02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,199 you said you know working together works 1739 02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:39,199 better 1740 02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:41,360 I'm going to take the county uh so thank 1741 02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,360 you for that and for all the work and I 1742 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,119 appreciate the fact that you didn't just 1743 02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:48,239 do this based it on just your staff but 1744 02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:51,360 you asked other people to um to actually 1745 02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:52,639 to take a look at some of the 1746 02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:54,080 applications. I don't know if you were 1747 02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:57,119 all aware of that process and and uh a 1748 02:03:57,119 --> 02:03:59,119 couple council members did so and and 1749 02:03:59,119 --> 02:04:01,199 others as well and other me staff in the 1750 02:04:01,199 --> 02:04:02,320 city outside of department of 1751 02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:05,119 development. So there was a broad look 1752 02:04:05,119 --> 02:04:06,400 because you know what happens in 1753 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,080 development happens you know impacts the 1754 02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,239 entire city. So I appreciate you know 1755 02:04:10,239 --> 02:04:12,080 how you address that. We're excited 1756 02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:14,400 about what we're doing and I feel really 1757 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,599 proud of the equitable process that was 1758 02:04:17,599 --> 02:04:20,400 put before this year. When I came into 1759 02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,960 this role 18 months ago, I said we're 1760 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,560 going to do we're going to have 1761 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,679 everything online. We're we're we're 1762 02:04:27,679 --> 02:04:30,719 building our own CRM, customer relation 1763 02:04:30,719 --> 02:04:33,360 management system. And this year we have 1764 02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:35,520 done that from start to finish, meaning 1765 02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,800 our applications were online. how the 1766 02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,199 applicants were scored was online, how 1767 02:04:41,199 --> 02:04:44,000 it was um randomly selected and matched 1768 02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,320 with a person was online, our risk 1769 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:47,840 assessment. So, we're really proud of 1770 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,719 that um approach this year. 1771 02:04:50,719 --> 02:04:54,000 >> Great. Any other questions or comments 1772 02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:58,159 on this Mr. B? I was just um 1773 02:04:58,159 --> 02:05:00,320 I I think about like kind of like a I 1774 02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,239 know that doing this process in an 1775 02:05:02,239 --> 02:05:04,239 equitable manner is something that is 1776 02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:06,080 extremely difficult to do 1777 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:10,159 >> and also um it doesn't leave everyone uh 1778 02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:11,840 cheering it. Honestly, it just is what 1779 02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,480 it is. Um and I know that in process you 1780 02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:16,320 know sometimes there there was a saying 1781 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:20,560 that around that equity can feel like 1782 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:24,480 restriction to those in positions of 1783 02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,239 privilege. Meaning that if that 1784 02:05:26,239 --> 02:05:29,199 privilege is that you've been um 1785 02:05:29,199 --> 02:05:33,199 supported historically from the city, 1786 02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:36,080 when that time comes where you know we 1787 02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,239 are owning up to our values of equity 1788 02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:40,960 and opening the door for other people to 1789 02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:42,880 kind of take some of that opport to get 1790 02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:44,880 some of that opportunity to build the 1791 02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,360 organization as well. That can that can 1792 02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:49,119 feel, you know, people can feel 1793 02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:51,599 slighted, but that's really the price 1794 02:05:51,599 --> 02:05:53,119 you pay to do the job the way that 1795 02:05:53,119 --> 02:05:54,480 you're supposed to be doing it. saying 1796 02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:56,639 we do it and based on our express value. 1797 02:05:56,639 --> 02:05:58,719 So I I greatly appreciate that. And my 1798 02:05:58,719 --> 02:06:02,960 question is how many how many new uh 1799 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,119 first time I guess recipients do you 1800 02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:06,480 know I know 1801 02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:10,400 >> we had five new in total and three were 1802 02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,119 funded. The other two were incomplete 1803 02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:14,960 applications. So we didn't have all of 1804 02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,199 the information needed to score them 1805 02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:19,119 properly. 1806 02:06:19,119 --> 02:06:22,880 In total we had 39 applicants this year. 1807 02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:26,000 So 12 applicants 12 applications were 1808 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,880 not scored but of those 12 applications 1809 02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:31,040 nine had other applications that receive 1810 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:31,520 funding. 1811 02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:34,320 >> Oh okay. Okay. 1812 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:35,280 >> Thank you. 1813 02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:38,719 >> Are there any other questions Mr. 1814 02:06:38,719 --> 02:06:41,119 >> um page 14A 1815 02:06:41,119 --> 02:06:43,840 house homeless homeless housing and 1816 02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,480 eviction prevention. 1817 02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,679 >> Do you have the 2024 outcome report for 1818 02:06:49,679 --> 02:06:50,639 this program? 1819 02:06:50,639 --> 02:06:52,480 >> Yes. Would you mind sharing to the 1820 02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:52,960 council? 1821 02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:54,880 >> Yes. Yes. 1822 02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,760 >> And just a follow up on on the new uh 1823 02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:00,159 agency that we're funding. Are all the 1824 02:07:00,159 --> 02:07:02,400 agency have based? 1825 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:07,199 >> Yes. All agencies are have based. Yes. 1826 02:07:07,199 --> 02:07:09,920 >> Thank you. 1827 02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:12,880 >> Any other questions, concerns? 1828 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:13,119 >> All right. 1829 02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:15,119 >> See no m I move this. 1830 02:07:15,119 --> 02:07:17,280 >> All right. It's moved by Miss Lair. 1831 02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:20,159 Second. Second. Second by Miss Patrick. 1832 02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:21,199 All in favor? 1833 02:07:21,199 --> 02:07:26,149 >> I I thank you very much. 1834 02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:29,040 » All right. Our next item is discussion. 1835 02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:31,119 City of Connecticut Metroplex parking 1836 02:07:31,119 --> 02:07:34,079 services agreement. Lasal mobile payment 1837 02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:40,390 technology. Mr. Wall is present. 1838 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:43,119 » Hello. As some of you may know, the city 1839 02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:46,639 of Sky uh utilizes a payment of cash 1840 02:07:46,639 --> 02:07:49,520 called Passport. um it is our mobile 1841 02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,159 paying app. We are utilizing it through 1842 02:07:52,159 --> 02:07:54,880 a mutual agreement with Metroplex. 1843 02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,800 Agreement's been in place for 5 years. 1844 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,000 Metroplex I have David can't believe me 1845 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:03,440 has uh gone out for a new RFP uh done an 1846 02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:05,199 evaluation and is looking to move 1847 02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:08,239 towards a new platform called Glasgow um 1848 02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:09,840 which is outlined briefly in your 1849 02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,719 legislative request. So um I wanted uh 1850 02:08:12,719 --> 02:08:14,880 Dave to come over here today and explain 1851 02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,760 uh where Metroplex is. Um the city uh 1852 02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:19,440 has the option to continue to work with 1853 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,560 Metroplex and have a unified parking at 1854 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,880 downtown or the city could go off and 1855 02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:28,000 continue to use Passport um as it as it 1856 02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:29,920 is. Um but that's what we're here to 1857 02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:32,239 talk with you about uh today. Um and 1858 02:08:32,239 --> 02:08:34,239 just so you're aware the kiosk would 1859 02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:36,320 remain kiosk would be remaining in both. 1860 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:37,760 So uh David, if you'd like to just give 1861 02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,840 a recap of 1862 02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,599 everybody. Uh yeah, we're here to talk 1863 02:08:41,599 --> 02:08:45,119 about uh Lazo. So I I think most of you 1864 02:08:45,119 --> 02:08:47,599 know Metroplex has operated downtown 1865 02:08:47,599 --> 02:08:51,599 parking system since 2004. Uh you know 1866 02:08:51,599 --> 02:08:53,360 system was operated by the city the 1867 02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,599 parking garage uh there's a $4 million 1868 02:08:55,599 --> 02:08:57,280 debt on it. We signed it over to 1869 02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,360 Metroplex and took it over and then we 1870 02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:02,159 had the service lots uh uh taken over as 1871 02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:03,840 well. So you know really proud of our 1872 02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,679 parking operation. It's important to our 1873 02:09:05,679 --> 02:09:08,800 downtown services providing uh downtown 1874 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,079 businesses residents. We have a 1875 02:09:10,079 --> 02:09:12,719 residence program now as well. Um and 1876 02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:15,280 then visitors to uh destinations like 1877 02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:17,520 Proctor's Clean, efficient parking. Uh 1878 02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:19,920 since we were resumeing up for an RFP 1879 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,400 park services uh to manage the parking 1880 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,760 lot in 2005, Les Parking has been our 1881 02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:28,639 provider. Uh periodically through time, 1882 02:09:28,639 --> 02:09:31,679 we keep going out asking new uh folks to 1883 02:09:31,679 --> 02:09:34,480 uh take a crack at it. Uh and um we did 1884 02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:38,079 this in May and uh Laz again u came 1885 02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:40,560 forward with a a strong proposal for us. 1886 02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:43,280 uh and their proposal included uh their 1887 02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:46,239 own uh payment technology. Uh payment 1888 02:09:46,239 --> 02:09:48,480 technology does a few things. One, it 1889 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,560 gets rid of uh the need to download an 1890 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:53,119 app which is uh sometimes difficult for 1891 02:09:53,119 --> 02:09:54,880 people. Uh a lot of people, you know, 1892 02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,360 you do that QR code now and just hit it. 1893 02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,280 A lot of people have Apple Pay, so that 1894 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:00,800 new technology exists. They've 1895 02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:03,199 incorporated that. Uh and then it's also 1896 02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:06,480 just uh cheaper for us, too. the less uh 1897 02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:09,440 administrative costs um so that we can 1898 02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:12,000 continue to offer good quality parking 1899 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,360 uh for us on our uh off street locations 1900 02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,280 and then if you approve it we continue 1901 02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:20,480 to offer the same service uh for the on 1902 02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:23,679 street locations as well. Um, Lasco is 1903 02:10:23,679 --> 02:10:26,079 one of the biggest uh parking providers, 1904 02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:29,920 44 states, 639 cities. Um, great uh 1905 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:31,840 company. Their local presence and 1906 02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:33,360 management has done a terrific job 1907 02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:35,119 taking over some of our landscaping and 1908 02:10:35,119 --> 02:10:37,599 property maintenance activities. So, um, 1909 02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:40,239 we're very pleased that they uh um 1910 02:10:40,239 --> 02:10:42,560 responded to the RFQ and uh that the 1911 02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:43,760 metroplex board would like to move 1912 02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:46,079 forward with it. Any questions? 1913 02:10:46,079 --> 02:10:48,880 >> Yes. my um in ter now there's right now 1914 02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,880 if you have the the app on your phone 1915 02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:52,719 and you your time runs out you can add 1916 02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:55,280 money with the scanning this QR code is 1917 02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:56,560 that still an option 1918 02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,560 >> it still works the same way it'll still 1919 02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,719 push updates to your phone uh you won't 1920 02:11:00,719 --> 02:11:02,880 need to know your zone anymore once 1921 02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:04,880 you're in ask you yeah that would be 1922 02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:07,040 nice right uh but you can still the same 1923 02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,480 pricing you know we met with all the 1924 02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:10,480 department heads about this uh the 1925 02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:12,800 backend enforcement side uh still stays 1926 02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:14,719 the same for them so they're they're all 1927 02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:16,639 in good spirits about this But yeah, 1928 02:11:16,639 --> 02:11:18,800 it'll have do those same services uh 1929 02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:20,239 that passport has. 1930 02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:22,639 >> Okay, that's a question that was raised 1931 02:11:22,639 --> 02:11:25,280 from me. Um, Miss Patrick, just want to 1932 02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,639 say I was in uh Buffalo last week and 1933 02:11:28,639 --> 02:11:31,520 had to download their app and it turned 1934 02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:33,199 out I didn't have to download their app 1935 02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:35,440 really because I did, but it was 1936 02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:36,800 actually the passport. 1937 02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:39,119 >> Okay. So, because all my information was 1938 02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:43,760 already in my phone for Skenctity, um it 1939 02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:46,560 just was a and I was able to pay for the 1940 02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:48,000 parking in Buffalo. 1941 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,119 >> But you still have to kind of figure 1942 02:11:49,119 --> 02:11:50,800 that out. The nice thing about Laso is 1943 02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:53,360 if you just um you can there is still an 1944 02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:55,199 app there. People are comfortable using 1945 02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:57,360 apps. Uh but it really is you just look 1946 02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:58,800 up there's a sign. 1947 02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:00,480 >> Uh and then you just point your phone at 1948 02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:02,239 it and then you don't even have to store 1949 02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:03,679 your you talked about your credit card 1950 02:12:03,679 --> 02:12:05,040 information being stored. People don't 1951 02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,199 like that. uh you can do that or it's 1952 02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:08,719 just if you have Apple Pay, you double 1953 02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:10,880 click on the side or Samsung Pay or you 1954 02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,280 download on this side of your phone uh 1955 02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:15,520 tap on your phone and then it's taken 1956 02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:17,679 care of. So LZ is a great company. They 1957 02:12:17,679 --> 02:12:20,239 have you know a great track record and 1958 02:12:20,239 --> 02:12:22,000 um making sure the technology is safe 1959 02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,239 and and secure for everyone as well. So 1960 02:12:24,239 --> 02:12:26,400 they would um you know no cost to to the 1961 02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,280 city to make this uh transition. Uh some 1962 02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:31,119 of the devices that the enforcement team 1963 02:12:31,119 --> 02:12:32,800 uses will continue to work on the 1964 02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,679 enforcement side. Um, so we'd love to 1965 02:12:35,679 --> 02:12:37,199 have one system. I think that people 1966 02:12:37,199 --> 02:12:38,960 appreciated that both on street and off 1967 02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:41,199 street. Uh, uh, you know, we are going 1968 02:12:41,199 --> 02:12:43,920 to be moving forward with Lazo. Uh, you 1969 02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:45,920 we'll start making that transition on 1970 02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:47,360 the off streetet locations, the 1971 02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:49,840 metroplex lots in the fall. And then, 1972 02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:51,599 you know, making sure that there's a 1973 02:12:51,599 --> 02:12:53,440 good uh, public campaign, people 1974 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,360 understand it. We'd look sometime around 1975 02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,719 January 1 uh if you approve to enter 1976 02:12:58,719 --> 02:13:00,639 into management agreement to make that 1977 02:13:00,639 --> 02:13:03,280 change over on the um on that street 1978 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:04,639 locations. 1979 02:13:04,639 --> 02:13:06,239 >> Mr. Farley then 1980 02:13:06,239 --> 02:13:08,079 >> so 1981 02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:09,520 partnering with partnering with 1982 02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,040 Metroplex and it saves seems like it 1983 02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,199 saves the city some money. Um and I was 1984 02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:14,560 just wondering what is this like what is 1985 02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:17,840 our contribution to this as for the city 1986 02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,719 cost like right now? So we have covered 1987 02:13:20,719 --> 02:13:24,639 all of the administrative costs to have 1988 02:13:24,639 --> 02:13:28,079 um the technology and uh what we do is 1989 02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:31,360 it gets um allocated into where does the 1990 02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,280 funding come uh where does the revenue 1991 02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:37,040 come from city controlled uh areas on 1992 02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,520 street and then what is allocated 1993 02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,760 because it's all geoloccated uh from the 1994 02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:43,920 metroplex facilities and at the end of 1995 02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:45,840 each month we reconcile it and send it 1996 02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:47,440 over to finance for the check for your 1997 02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:50,400 share. So, we cover all the costs. Um, 1998 02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,920 you know, it's it's minimal work for us. 1999 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,159 Um, and we want to offer this service 2000 02:13:56,159 --> 02:13:57,920 anyways and make it an efficient place 2001 02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,760 to go downtown. So, um, you know, we 2002 02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:04,320 don't pass any cost on to the city. 2003 02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:05,520 >> One more question. 2004 02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,239 >> Yeah. So, Miss Patrick made me think of 2005 02:14:08,239 --> 02:14:11,280 something. Um, do we know like what Laz 2006 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,280 goes does with people's information? Is 2007 02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:14,719 there like as when we're cuz I know 2008 02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:17,119 they're a large company and anytime that 2009 02:14:17,119 --> 02:14:19,760 you do that you sometimes do you know 2010 02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:21,280 like if they like do they sell 2011 02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:22,800 >> they sell it or something like that? 2012 02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:23,440 >> Yeah. Like 2013 02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,040 >> yeah we'll check through the their 2014 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:26,560 policies to make sure we're comfortable. 2015 02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:30,400 You know we only contract um you know 2016 02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:33,119 obviously uh by law there's only certain 2017 02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:35,440 things you can do. If that is a a 2018 02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:37,679 concern, we'll address it and before we 2019 02:14:37,679 --> 02:14:39,920 enter into the management agreement, um 2020 02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,840 we'll just make sure that it meets all 2021 02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,520 city guidelines of what you can do with 2022 02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:45,679 uh uh individual information. 2023 02:14:45,679 --> 02:14:46,800 >> Thank you, 2024 02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:50,320 >> Mr. Toro. Thank you. So, the kiosk will 2025 02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:51,199 stay, 2026 02:14:51,199 --> 02:14:51,679 >> correct? 2027 02:14:51,679 --> 02:14:55,040 >> So, people can put uh change into there? 2028 02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:55,599 >> Yes. 2029 02:14:55,599 --> 02:14:58,239 >> Okay. Um because my my passport app on 2030 02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:00,400 my phone has about 15 different license 2031 02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:01,840 plates from people standing there in 2032 02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:03,599 front of the machine going like this and 2033 02:15:03,599 --> 02:15:06,000 I put their license plate on my on my 2034 02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:08,320 phone so I can help them out. And I'm 2035 02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,639 just worried because there's so many uh 2036 02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:13,840 individuals that I encounter daily uh 2037 02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:16,719 walking around that have no clue um how 2038 02:15:16,719 --> 02:15:19,440 to work a passport or download an app or 2039 02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:21,920 how to even probably hold a phone up to 2040 02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:25,760 anything and Apple Pay or some type of 2041 02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:28,079 payment. I mean um 2042 02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:30,000 >> yeah. So all the the kiosks, we have 2043 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,320 some in our main uh lots as well. Those 2044 02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:33,599 will continue to be there. They'll 2045 02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:36,000 accept cash. Um yeah, you know, 2046 02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:37,760 downloading an app is not for everybody 2047 02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:40,719 and uh not only can you uh take pictures 2048 02:15:40,719 --> 02:15:42,159 with the QR code, but you can also just 2049 02:15:42,159 --> 02:15:44,400 text and most people do text now. It'll 2050 02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,719 say text this number and then the link 2051 02:15:46,719 --> 02:15:48,400 will pop up on your phone. But yes, you 2052 02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:49,520 know, people who don't have a 2053 02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:51,679 smartphone, uh they'll continue to be 2054 02:15:51,679 --> 02:15:54,480 able to use the kiosks that are around. 2055 02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:56,560 Uh you know, Metroplex the garage also 2056 02:15:56,560 --> 02:15:59,199 accepts uh cash as well. Also, you know, 2057 02:15:59,199 --> 02:16:00,560 Metroplex lots are free nights and 2058 02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:01,520 weekends as 2059 02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:02,880 >> I was going to ask you. I just wrote 2060 02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:05,199 down free here. So to to make sure you 2061 02:16:05,199 --> 02:16:07,360 advertise that that you know I I yell at 2062 02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:09,119 people all the time you know after 4:00 2063 02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:10,719 you don't have to pay and 2064 02:16:10,719 --> 02:16:12,079 >> I don't pay 2065 02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:13,440 >> I think it's later than that 2066 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:15,690 >> nights and weekends are free 2067 02:16:15,690 --> 02:16:17,199 [Music] 2068 02:16:17,199 --> 02:16:19,920 cuz they go off but they go off duty at 2069 02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,719 4. So I'm figuring that's safe 2070 02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:25,760 for but that needs but people need to I 2071 02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:27,280 see people all the time just you know 2072 02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:29,679 trying to put money in or pay when it's 2073 02:16:29,679 --> 02:16:31,679 night. So we're going to do that's huge 2074 02:16:31,679 --> 02:16:34,000 for our city with everything we have 2075 02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:35,280 that's going on here. 2076 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:37,359 >> Yeah. And so Laz will do some uh they've 2077 02:16:37,359 --> 02:16:38,880 done some customer appreciation events 2078 02:16:38,880 --> 02:16:40,800 where they come out they'll table. Uh we 2079 02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:43,040 also have parksconnecty.com our website. 2080 02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:44,960 We'll update all the information of how 2081 02:16:44,960 --> 02:16:46,479 to use it. There's a good promotion 2082 02:16:46,479 --> 02:16:48,639 video. Uh and then uh some of the 2083 02:16:48,639 --> 02:16:51,200 signage for passport is uh faded now. So 2084 02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:53,280 it'll be all new fresh signage. We'll 2085 02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:54,639 work with the city team to make sure it 2086 02:16:54,639 --> 02:16:56,800 has the look and style that uh that the 2087 02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:58,399 city would like. 2088 02:16:58,399 --> 02:16:59,599 >> Sounds good, 2089 02:16:59,599 --> 02:17:00,880 >> Mr. Williams. 2090 02:17:00,880 --> 02:17:02,880 >> Uh so I definitely want to say um thank 2091 02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:05,439 you and kind of expanding from your 2092 02:17:05,439 --> 02:17:07,679 point just point of reflection. I've 2093 02:17:07,679 --> 02:17:09,439 never met anyone who's gone. I've loved 2094 02:17:09,439 --> 02:17:11,280 passport. So I think it's a struggle 2095 02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:14,719 even to to meet myself. Um, so I think 2096 02:17:14,719 --> 02:17:16,479 it's very appreciative to find uh 2097 02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:18,880 applications that take away the burden 2098 02:17:18,880 --> 02:17:21,679 of like downloading a software. Um, but 2099 02:17:21,679 --> 02:17:23,760 I do want to add to M to point about the 2100 02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:27,200 kiosk. I when I also have catch people 2101 02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,599 and it is just you feel so bad and 2102 02:17:29,599 --> 02:17:31,200 you're glad you're not in that position 2103 02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:33,519 yourself but going to help them. Is 2104 02:17:33,519 --> 02:17:35,840 there any considerations for more 2105 02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:38,800 streamlined kiosk? And then uh my second 2106 02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:41,599 question was how do we map to identify 2107 02:17:41,599 --> 02:17:43,679 to tell people you're in this area here 2108 02:17:43,679 --> 02:17:45,679 is where you can pay if you want to pay 2109 02:17:45,679 --> 02:17:46,960 with money. I feel like that's always 2110 02:17:46,960 --> 02:17:49,519 been a challenge as well. 2111 02:17:49,519 --> 02:17:53,200 >> So this is an on street question. I'd 2112 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,679 like Chris handle you know off street 2113 02:17:55,679 --> 02:17:57,200 you know we're going to do some uh 2114 02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:59,519 additional banners that draw attention 2115 02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:02,160 to you know free nights and weekends and 2116 02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:05,120 things like that. The point is to try to 2117 02:18:05,120 --> 02:18:07,040 parking is expensive. This used to be an 2118 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:09,359 annual million-doll deficit in 2004. I 2119 02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:11,280 think above what that's valued now for 2120 02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,160 the city. So, um you know, we don't run 2121 02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:17,519 it as a money making business, but we do 2122 02:18:17,519 --> 02:18:20,000 try to get as close to being um you 2123 02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:21,840 know, revenue neutral on it so that we 2124 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:23,439 can keep it nice and and make sure it 2125 02:18:23,439 --> 02:18:26,240 meets the standard that we want. Um 2126 02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,240 we'll continue to look at our kiosk. I 2127 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:29,439 think that there are some things you can 2128 02:18:29,439 --> 02:18:31,359 do to make it a little bit more 2129 02:18:31,359 --> 02:18:34,080 efficient. Um, you know, but the more we 2130 02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:35,439 can get people comfortable with this 2131 02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:37,120 technology, just the, you know, the 2132 02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:38,800 better it would be for for everyone 2133 02:18:38,800 --> 02:18:41,120 while still supporting our last given 2134 02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:44,639 data on on street. 2135 02:18:44,639 --> 02:18:47,280 Um, you'll see more of a presentation on 2136 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:50,319 the kiosk come budget time. Um, we are 2137 02:18:50,319 --> 02:18:52,399 looking to purchase some upgraded 2138 02:18:52,399 --> 02:18:54,559 kiosks. Um, you know, the screen 2139 02:18:54,559 --> 02:18:56,399 technology gets better every year. I'm 2140 02:18:56,399 --> 02:18:58,800 not saying we buy kiosks every year. Um 2141 02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,000 there's also um we do have to start 2142 02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:03,840 transitioning. One of the things that 2143 02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:07,200 we're always at um odds with is 2144 02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:10,319 technology itself. So I like this 2145 02:19:10,319 --> 02:19:12,160 transition, but I would just advise that 2146 02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:13,920 you know going to Glasgow that the 2147 02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:15,359 commitments how many years? 2148 02:19:15,359 --> 02:19:16,559 >> Uh it's 5 years. 2149 02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:18,399 >> So five I would you always advise we 2150 02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:20,000 don't go less than 5 years unless 2151 02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,639 there's some reason to just because it 2152 02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:24,479 is hard to keep up with technology. Um, 2153 02:19:24,479 --> 02:19:25,599 you know, we've had to invest in the 2154 02:19:25,599 --> 02:19:28,960 kiosk to replace all the 3G antennas 2155 02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:31,359 with 4G antennas because of the switch. 2156 02:19:31,359 --> 02:19:33,920 And now what we're looking at is making 2157 02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:36,639 sure that they have chips uh chip 2158 02:19:36,639 --> 02:19:38,240 readers. So, the new ones will have chip 2159 02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:41,040 readers because swiping is going away in 2160 02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:41,840 the next 2161 02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:43,439 >> within the next 5 years. I believe it's 2162 02:19:43,439 --> 02:19:45,200 going away. We've opened kiosks last 10 2163 02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,679 years. We're also looking at kiosks that 2164 02:19:47,679 --> 02:19:50,080 are underperforming and moving away from 2165 02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:53,040 having kiosks that cost us $40 a month 2166 02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:55,439 and service fees that generate $5 a 2167 02:19:55,439 --> 02:19:57,600 month. So, that is something and but 2168 02:19:57,600 --> 02:19:59,600 those areas we still are looking at 2169 02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,600 pushing trying to push people to the app 2170 02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,120 and that's kind of the conversation is 2171 02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:05,680 that um where we want to go also maybe 2172 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:07,760 reducing the amount of kiosk but trying 2173 02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:09,280 to make it so that you do know where 2174 02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,120 they are. loan for instance. We do have 2175 02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:13,280 four in this area right in front of city 2176 02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:15,359 hall where it could we get away with two 2177 02:20:15,359 --> 02:20:17,439 just trying to get more efficient. And 2178 02:20:17,439 --> 02:20:20,640 you know we do get requests for cash for 2179 02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,800 people to actually use cash at the 2180 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,160 kiosk. Cash is complex. Um you get into 2181 02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:29,520 using golf dollar coins as as change. 2182 02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:30,960 You get into counting differently now. 2183 02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:32,800 You just don't have a change box. You 2184 02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:34,319 have something else. So it does add that 2185 02:20:34,319 --> 02:20:36,000 complexity. And I don't know, you know, 2186 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:37,439 we've made a decision to go away from 2187 02:20:37,439 --> 02:20:39,600 cash 10 years ago. And if you've gone to 2188 02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:41,840 any event centers or public locations, 2189 02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:43,439 you know, they're going totally away 2190 02:20:43,439 --> 02:20:46,560 from cash, credit card only. Um, so I I 2191 02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:47,920 think that we stick with where we are 2192 02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:49,920 because coin is simpler, but I do know 2193 02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:51,920 that we have uh people that are and I do 2194 02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:54,479 know Metroplex uses cash at theirs, but 2195 02:20:54,479 --> 02:20:56,640 I think it's less kiosks than what we 2196 02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:58,640 have. So, I just want to point that out 2197 02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:00,479 that the the kiosk when I propose them 2198 02:21:00,479 --> 02:21:02,479 right now, they're still coin and 2199 02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:05,280 credit, not not cash, but it could be 2200 02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:07,280 added if it was needed. But once again, 2201 02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:09,040 you'd be left you'd be left with some 2202 02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,720 habits, some not. So you might get some. 2203 02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:14,640 >> That's perfect. As the technology 2204 02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,200 continues to evolve, is there a way to 2205 02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:22,160 Miss Doro's question where after I 2206 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:25,439 thought it was 6 p.m. but okay 5:00 p.m. 2207 02:21:25,439 --> 02:21:28,240 that you wouldn't be able to actually 2208 02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:32,000 input anything into uh you know I feel 2209 02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:33,920 like I feel like I've experienced that 2210 02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:36,880 also on a night or a weekend where it's 2211 02:21:36,880 --> 02:21:39,680 not going to let you use the app um 2212 02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:43,120 because you don't have to pay. So 2213 02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:44,800 >> there that may be possible. I haven't 2214 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:47,760 looked into it. May be possible, but 2215 02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:49,920 yeah, we would be 2216 02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:53,120 >> not receiving ancillary revenues. 2217 02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:55,840 >> That's true. 2218 02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:58,080 >> Yeah, I do think the app will have it 2219 02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:00,479 not anymore, right? It'll just say it's 2220 02:22:00,479 --> 02:22:02,000 not. You don't want to confuse people 2221 02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:03,520 more cuz I've been there in places as 2222 02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:05,439 well where I'm like, well, it worked and 2223 02:22:05,439 --> 02:22:06,960 it didn't work and you just don't know 2224 02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:09,200 cuz the sign's not around. So, 2225 02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:10,880 >> um, you don't want to just say it's not 2226 02:22:10,880 --> 02:22:11,760 functioning at this time. 2227 02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:14,399 >> I need that ding when it tells me that I 2228 02:22:14,399 --> 02:22:16,560 made my payment. Ding. 2229 02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:19,600 >> So, um, Mr. Well, you you you talk about 2230 02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:21,760 coin versus cash. Are you just talking 2231 02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:23,200 about people putting in dollar bills or 2232 02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:27,270 like dimes and nickels? 2233 02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:30,000 » Yeah. Um, the other thing is, um, 2234 02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:31,439 because this happens, and this might be 2235 02:22:31,439 --> 02:22:32,880 what you're experiencing, um, Miss 2236 02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:35,120 Patrick, there are times when coins will 2237 02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:37,280 not go in because I never download the 2238 02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:39,600 app and so I use coins on my credit 2239 02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:41,280 card. But there's times when coins go 2240 02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:42,960 in. Is that because it's full or that it 2241 02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:43,920 won't set? 2242 02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:44,880 >> It could be a jam. 2243 02:22:44,880 --> 02:22:45,600 >> Yeah, they get jammed. 2244 02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:47,280 >> Yeah, they do get jam and then Mike and 2245 02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:49,439 our department will go and and do it. 2246 02:22:49,439 --> 02:22:50,880 But yes, that that happens. Or someone 2247 02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:52,800 tries to put something in. It might not 2248 02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:54,399 be a coin to try to trick it and then it 2249 02:22:54,399 --> 02:22:56,560 gets in because it is a it is you know 2250 02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:57,520 you put something a little bit bigger 2251 02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:59,920 and it can get caught and I'm sure if uh 2252 02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:01,600 Mike Fa was here he would tell you all 2253 02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:03,439 about 2254 02:23:03,439 --> 02:23:05,040 operating the kiosk. 2255 02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:07,600 Um my other uh thing is this is actually 2256 02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:09,280 a concern because you talked about 2257 02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,840 reducing the number of kiosks perhaps 2258 02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:14,720 and my concern in that is that um that 2259 02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:17,359 people who are have mobility problems 2260 02:23:17,359 --> 02:23:19,040 have you know in the distance they may 2261 02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:20,800 have to walk now from their car to the 2262 02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:23,359 kiosk and then back again. So I just 2263 02:23:23,359 --> 02:23:24,720 want to make sure we take into 2264 02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,280 consideration as we're reducing this and 2265 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:28,399 I know we're trying to make it more 2266 02:23:28,399 --> 02:23:30,160 efficient but I believe we're also 2267 02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:32,240 trying to make things okay for our 2268 02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:33,920 residents. So that would be a concern 2269 02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:35,760 for me especially around city hall where 2270 02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,319 a lot of people come to pay their taxes 2271 02:23:38,319 --> 02:23:40,160 do various things that they don't do 2272 02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:42,399 online they come and pay it. So I just 2273 02:23:42,399 --> 02:23:43,920 want to you know that's something you 2274 02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:47,840 can take. So to that point, right, like 2275 02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:49,520 as we're reooking at things, if you're 2276 02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:51,600 saying trying to guess, so you could put 2277 02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:53,600 one key, we have, let's say, seven 2278 02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:55,600 kiosks around city hall because we're 2279 02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:57,359 trying to pick you up. Instead, we could 2280 02:23:57,359 --> 02:23:59,840 put a kiosk at the entrance to city hall 2281 02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:01,760 and a kiosk at the entrance pedestrian 2282 02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:03,760 jet. There's two. 2283 02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:05,439 >> Now, you might say, "What about the post 2284 02:24:05,439 --> 02:24:06,800 office?" Then you put one at that 2285 02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:08,800 corner. There's three, 2286 02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,399 >> you know. So I that's what I just want 2287 02:24:10,399 --> 02:24:16,479 to look at. instead of two and two and six, you know, if if we think 2288 02:24:16,479 --> 02:24:18,560 the generator is city hall, then I mean 2289 02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:20,240 to the point of metroplex, when you go 2290 02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:22,000 to the metroplex, the kiosk is usually 2291 02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:23,439 at the entrance exit. 2292 02:24:23,439 --> 02:24:23,840 >> Mhm. 2293 02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:25,840 >> Um now they're not trying to bet what 2294 02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:27,439 entrance exit you're going to. They 2295 02:24:27,439 --> 02:24:29,120 don't have, you know, one at every side. 2296 02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:30,720 Correct. And you have usually one 2297 02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:32,240 >> kios. Yeah. 2298 02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,319 >> Right. So you walk to that and then you 2299 02:24:34,319 --> 02:24:34,720 go 2300 02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:36,399 >> a sign. 2301 02:24:36,399 --> 02:24:38,160 And and this is just, you know, once 2302 02:24:38,160 --> 02:24:40,080 again me putting on my engineer hat and 2303 02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:42,160 trying to do things efficiently. If the 2304 02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:43,680 government and government is so 2305 02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:45,520 efficient, I know it's terribly 2306 02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:47,520 efficient government. Uh if we want to 2307 02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:49,439 put them all over the place, put them 2308 02:24:49,439 --> 02:24:51,439 everywhere. It's great. We'll put them 2309 02:24:51,439 --> 02:24:53,280 wherever you want. I'll buy more kiosks. 2310 02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:54,800 It's not a problem. We'll just have more 2311 02:24:54,800 --> 02:24:57,120 kiosks. We just have to budget for more 2312 02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:59,280 kiosks. And they do come with fees cuz 2313 02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:03,439 they're cellular. And so, you know, and then once again, if you put two 2314 02:25:03,439 --> 02:25:04,800 kiosks where one is, they're going to 2315 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:06,399 split the revenue and, you know, it just 2316 02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:08,800 it is what it is. But I have no problem, 2317 02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:10,720 you know, accommodating people and 2318 02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:12,080 putting them out there. I would just, 2319 02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:13,520 like I say, I get the revenue reports 2320 02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:15,280 and we're looking and we're trying to 2321 02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:16,880 just find where we can put them to make 2322 02:25:16,880 --> 02:25:18,240 them more efficient. 2323 02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:19,760 >> I understand. And let me just be be 2324 02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:21,760 clear, I'm not advocating for more. I'm 2325 02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:24,240 just also not advocating for less. just 2326 02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:25,680 want to make sure that people have what 2327 02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:28,160 they need uh in terms of being, you 2328 02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:30,479 know, um you compared to Metroplex, but 2329 02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:31,920 they have parking lots and you pull into 2330 02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,359 the parking lot and there's the kiosk 2331 02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:35,120 and then you park in the lot. That's a 2332 02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,120 little bit different for us. So, 2333 02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:38,960 >> well, I mean, so the zoo lot, the 2334 02:25:38,960 --> 02:25:40,240 Liberty Lot, you're going to pull into 2335 02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:41,920 the lot and park, right? 2336 02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:44,240 >> And the kiosk is at the entrance. So, if 2337 02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:46,000 you pulled into that lot and wanted to 2338 02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:48,240 go to 20 north, 2339 02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:50,560 >> that is over here. The kiosk is over 2340 02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:52,800 here. So you will have to walk over to 2341 02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:55,359 pay to go. So just like it's it's very 2342 02:25:55,359 --> 02:25:57,439 similar to off street. There will be a 2343 02:25:57,439 --> 02:25:59,280 little bit of a little bit of a walk 2344 02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:02,880 either way to do it. 2345 02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:03,680 >> Um 2346 02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:06,720 >> yeah. So I could have misunderstood 2347 02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:08,960 this. Isn't like so people who like who 2348 02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:11,120 have mobility issues who like um like 2349 02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:12,800 stickers or facts on their car on their 2350 02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:15,040 license plate um they are required to 2351 02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:17,120 pay the same fee that everyone else 2352 02:26:17,120 --> 02:26:19,120 pays. 2353 02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:20,720 >> Yeah. I wasn't sure. Not everybody 2354 02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:22,080 thinks they do cuz I've seen they put 2355 02:26:22,080 --> 02:26:23,600 their flashlight up and walk away like 2356 02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:25,439 I'm good. Mary, did you have something 2357 02:26:25,439 --> 02:26:26,720 you want to add to this? 2358 02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,359 >> It's part of the change in technology. 2359 02:26:29,359 --> 02:26:31,280 When people go to the kiosk, they don't 2360 02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:32,720 have to go back to their car, 2361 02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:33,120 >> right? 2362 02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:35,120 >> You put your license plate in, it goes 2363 02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,000 in the system and enforcement knows that 2364 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:41,439 you paid for it. That's even like 2365 02:26:41,439 --> 02:26:43,520 >> some businesses are very gracious. They 2366 02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:45,920 may be paying for more than just their 2367 02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:47,600 tie. you know, restaurants, other things 2368 02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,960 that say they uh it's a problem for 2369 02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:53,840 people having to pay to park. If they 2370 02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:57,120 want to pay the 50 cents or the dollar, 2371 02:26:57,120 --> 02:27:00,000 they can put in the license plate, pay 2372 02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:03,520 for that car, and 2373 02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:06,160 >> it is something that we can do 2374 02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:09,120 >> off street. I would never broadcast it 2375 02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:11,120 to take away from revenue from the city 2376 02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:13,120 though. So, but if there's a business 2377 02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:15,200 that wants to maybe they have a great 2378 02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:17,600 lunch crowd or um you know there's 2379 02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:19,120 certain events going on, it is something 2380 02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:21,200 that we we have uh one business that 2381 02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:22,560 already has expressed interest and is 2382 02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:23,680 going to move forward with they'll have 2383 02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:25,760 a promo code. You can go into their 2384 02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:27,280 business, you can snap, you can maybe 2385 02:27:27,280 --> 02:27:28,479 you've already paid there and like I'm 2386 02:27:28,479 --> 02:27:30,800 going to go have lunch and uh I can get 2387 02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:32,560 my 2 hours of free parking. So, it is 2388 02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:34,800 something that we can certainly do to um 2389 02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:37,040 with this new technology and again it's 2390 02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:39,359 just easier and more simpler and you 2391 02:27:39,359 --> 02:27:40,720 know I think everyone's texting 2392 02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:43,359 nowadays. So if you see you know text uh 2393 02:27:43,359 --> 02:27:45,680 you know 421 to this number and then it 2394 02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:47,920 snaps in much easier than downloading an 2395 02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:49,920 app and making sure you downloaded the 2396 02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:54,070 right app. 2397 02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:56,160 » Any further discussion? 2398 02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:58,080 So this is just just informing us this 2399 02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:00,399 is just up to the secondary end as well. 2400 02:28:00,399 --> 02:28:02,399 >> Yeah, this is to have an upgraded 2401 02:28:02,399 --> 02:28:04,319 updated management agreement now that we 2402 02:28:04,319 --> 02:28:07,439 moved from passport to the last system. 2403 02:28:07,439 --> 02:28:10,560 >> So you you ask for res this to be move 2404 02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:12,319 forward because it's on the agenda 2405 02:28:12,319 --> 02:28:14,560 simply as discussion. So that's why I 2406 02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:15,920 wanted to be clear. 2407 02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:17,600 >> So the next step would be we would have 2408 02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:21,040 a res agreement 2409 02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:22,240 parking service agreement. It's a 2410 02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:23,760 professional services agreement and 2411 02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:26,000 follows the same pattern that was put in 2412 02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:28,160 place in 2020. 2413 02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:31,520 >> But you um I'm just I'm curious. 2414 02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:34,080 >> Do you want to send that out first? I 2415 02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:36,080 mean after this and this was kind of a 2416 02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:38,800 broad overview of what what the plan is. 2417 02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:40,560 I don't and there was some questions by 2418 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:42,399 council members regarding some 2419 02:28:42,399 --> 02:28:43,840 specifics. 2420 02:28:43,840 --> 02:28:47,439 >> Um perhaps next cycle we'll have to 2421 02:28:47,439 --> 02:28:49,840 draft for the council's consideration. 2422 02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:51,680 This was this is still going to 2423 02:28:51,680 --> 02:28:53,359 metroplex board correct. 2424 02:28:53,359 --> 02:28:54,960 >> So we wanted to get in before that and 2425 02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:56,800 we wanted to make sure that the council 2426 02:28:56,800 --> 02:28:57,840 was 2427 02:28:57,840 --> 02:28:59,600 >> amable to going this way if there were 2428 02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:01,439 any concerns so that we could look this 2429 02:29:01,439 --> 02:29:03,120 is the next step would be after there 2430 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:04,640 that we would come back okay 2431 02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:07,680 >> with agreement for so this was just 2432 02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:09,359 informing the council in principle 2433 02:29:09,359 --> 02:29:11,359 what's going on so that everybody's on 2434 02:29:11,359 --> 02:29:13,439 the same page and then the agreement 2435 02:29:13,439 --> 02:29:16,080 after Metro it then we'll take a look at 2436 02:29:16,080 --> 02:29:18,640 it and then for final council action. 2437 02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:20,080 >> All right. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank 2438 02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:22,399 you very much, Mr. Lion. 2439 02:29:22,399 --> 02:29:22,960 >> Thank you. 2440 02:29:22,960 --> 02:29:24,160 very much for coming. 2441 02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:26,640 Appreciate it. 2442 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:29,200 >> Uh the next item number three is the 2443 02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,840 issuance of a revocable permit number 2444 02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,880 691 to Synthesis Architects 2445 02:29:34,880 --> 02:29:36,319 for a sign that will overhang the city's 2446 02:29:36,319 --> 02:29:37,600 rights. 2447 02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:40,640 >> Synthesis Architects is a longtime 2448 02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:43,600 architecture firm on J Street. Um they 2449 02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:46,800 have a old uh sign attached to their 2450 02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:54,960 building. Um, we looked to see and they have a revocable permit that's very old. Uh, insurance expired 2451 02:29:54,960 --> 02:29:56,960 under different formats. So, they were 2452 02:29:56,960 --> 02:29:58,560 amicable to coming in and getting a new 2453 02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:00,080 revocable permit for their new sign, 2454 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:02,240 which will hand you a similar location. 2455 02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:06,080 So, we'd like to move forward with that. 2456 02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:08,479 >> Any questions or concerns? I'll move it. 2457 02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:09,120 >> Second. 2458 02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:10,960 >> All those in favor? I 2459 02:30:10,960 --> 02:30:14,240 >> Thank you. Uh item number four is uh 2460 02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:15,760 award bid in contact with the city's 2461 02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:17,280 connecting fire station number three and 2462 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:19,280 number four generators. 2463 02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:21,200 Mr. Wallen. 2464 02:30:21,200 --> 02:30:24,399 So uh in an effort to increase the 2465 02:30:24,399 --> 02:30:25,840 city's resilience in emergency 2466 02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:29,120 situations. Um we are trying to or 2467 02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:31,840 looking to fix a a thing that we have 2468 02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:34,000 which is no emergency backup power at 2469 02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:35,680 two of our fire stations or two of our 2470 02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,479 older fire stations. Um, you know, the 2471 02:30:38,479 --> 02:30:40,080 city, we're fortunate where we actually 2472 02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:42,399 don't lose power very often. We have a 2473 02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:45,760 strong grid here. However, um, one of 2474 02:30:45,760 --> 02:30:47,359 the things that's brought to light is we 2475 02:30:47,359 --> 02:30:50,000 have new doors at the fire stations. 2476 02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,800 They are called screw style doors that 2477 02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:55,280 use, uh, almost exactly what it is, like 2478 02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:57,040 a screw. You go like that. Uh, and 2479 02:30:57,040 --> 02:30:59,600 they're slower open. Um, if your house, 2480 02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:01,840 you would have a pole with a spring and 2481 02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:04,319 your door would slide open. These are a 2482 02:31:04,319 --> 02:31:06,080 screw style door because how much we use 2483 02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:08,080 they're more wearable. However, when 2484 02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:09,760 there is no power, 2485 02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:12,160 >> they are extremely tedious to open 2486 02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:14,560 >> and it's brought to light that it really 2487 02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:16,640 should have it. And so we uh did a 2488 02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:18,960 review of the facilities and agreed that 2489 02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:20,880 they uh they should have backup power. 2490 02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:24,240 The facilities aren't large. Um so the 2491 02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:27,680 generators are just slightly larger than 2492 02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:29,200 uh you would have at home, maybe double 2493 02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:31,520 the size of that. Uh we put out a bid 2494 02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:34,240 for these and uh we got three bids from 2495 02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:36,720 three engineers that we work with. Uh 2496 02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,960 and the low was Burke Engineering. Um so 2497 02:31:38,960 --> 02:31:40,479 we're comfortable going with Burke for 2498 02:31:40,479 --> 02:31:42,479 the installation of these generators and 2499 02:31:42,479 --> 02:31:44,880 uh I really think um those that are 2500 02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:46,399 stationed at station three and four 2501 02:31:46,399 --> 02:31:49,040 would appreciate it. 2502 02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:51,760 >> Any questions or concerns? 2503 02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:55,040 >> I'll second. All those in favor? 2504 02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:55,680 >> Thank you. 2505 02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,080 very much for coming. 2506 02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:00,240 Uh we moved item number five. It's a 2507 02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:02,160 claim. So that's already been discussed. 2508 02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:04,560 And item number six is ceremonial 2509 02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:07,040 resolution for the honor of veteran. Uh 2510 02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:08,880 the person that we received the letter 2511 02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:12,160 from Mr. Frank is Michelle Johnson. So 2512 02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:17,680 um we finally got our information. Did you put a copy of the final 2513 02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:20,399 resolution? Okay. I did print that. 2514 02:32:20,399 --> 02:32:22,640 >> All right. So the um what was in the 2515 02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:30,630 packet was not the final resolution. So, 2516 02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:37,990 but that's 2517 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:41,429 everybody else. 2518 02:32:41,439 --> 02:32:46,560 Okay. So, um we just uh got the final 2519 02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:47,920 information. We did get some things, but 2520 02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:49,520 I knew it wasn't complete because most 2521 02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:51,520 many of you may even know who this is. 2522 02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:53,359 Um, so I knew there was some things in 2523 02:32:53,359 --> 02:32:54,960 English and rather than us presenting 2524 02:32:54,960 --> 02:32:56,000 something that didn't have all the 2525 02:32:56,000 --> 02:32:59,760 information asked for u her to fill in 2526 02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:03,359 the blanks. So um it just it tells you 2527 02:33:03,359 --> 02:33:05,200 about her and this is a ceremonial 2528 02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:06,800 resolution that will be resetted I 2529 02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:08,800 believe 13 when the county is doing 2530 02:33:08,800 --> 02:33:12,160 their honor program. So just looking for 2531 02:33:12,160 --> 02:33:16,309 a motion for 2532 02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:17,120 second. 2533 02:33:17,120 --> 02:33:18,880 >> All right. Thank you very much. Uh all 2534 02:33:18,880 --> 02:33:19,920 in favor? 2535 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:21,120 >> I. 2536 02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:23,359 >> Okay. Item number six, uh excuse me, 2537 02:33:23,359 --> 02:33:25,359 item number seven is the moratorium for 2538 02:33:25,359 --> 02:33:27,680 health and wellness spas. Mr. Toro. 2539 02:33:27,680 --> 02:33:30,399 >> Yes. Thank you. So I I'd like to propose 2540 02:33:30,399 --> 02:33:34,399 a six-month moratorium on um health and 2541 02:33:34,399 --> 02:33:38,720 wellness spas uh here in the city. Um so 2542 02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,280 that the uh code department um I'd like 2543 02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:44,960 to uh put forward that the uh the 2544 02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:47,040 specific health and wellness spas be 2545 02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,520 issued a certificate of occupancy to 2546 02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:51,439 what that does is it ensures that the 2547 02:33:51,439 --> 02:33:53,439 businesses and facilities are operating 2548 02:33:53,439 --> 02:33:56,880 safely legally and in compliance with 2549 02:33:56,880 --> 02:33:58,479 zoning 2550 02:33:58,479 --> 02:34:01,520 building fire and health codes. Um 2551 02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:03,439 they're not currently required at this 2552 02:34:03,439 --> 02:34:08,080 time uh to have a CEO. Um 2553 02:34:08,080 --> 02:34:12,640 other businesses in the city um 2554 02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:16,399 have to have a CEO. Uh barber shops um I 2555 02:34:16,399 --> 02:34:17,920 do have a list of them here. I can't 2556 02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:19,600 find them at this moment. So I'll just 2557 02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:22,319 continue with why it's important. So 2558 02:34:22,319 --> 02:34:24,640 some of the key points are um these 2559 02:34:24,640 --> 02:34:26,560 spawn wellness centers frequently 2560 02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:29,280 provide services um involving direct 2561 02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,680 physical contact and using specialized 2562 02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:34,160 equipment, massage oils and treatments 2563 02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:37,680 of things uh for skin treatment. Um 2564 02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:40,319 without oversight through a co there's 2565 02:34:40,319 --> 02:34:42,160 no guarantee that the facilities meet 2566 02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:44,800 the basic health, fire safety, 2567 02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:48,080 ventilation, sanitation, and structural 2568 02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:49,600 requirements. 2569 02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:52,160 Uh the CO would also require facilities 2570 02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:54,800 to demonstrate compliance with safety 2571 02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:58,319 codes uh protecting both patrons and 2572 02:34:58,319 --> 02:35:02,640 employees. Um some of the consumer uh 2573 02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:04,960 protection would be inquire uh requiring 2574 02:35:04,960 --> 02:35:07,520 a certificate of occupancy 2575 02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:09,840 um is a signal to our residents that 2576 02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:12,640 this particular building uh and this 2577 02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:15,439 particular business has been uh visited 2578 02:35:15,439 --> 02:35:17,520 by um our code department, fire 2579 02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:19,520 department, the mayor's office and a 2580 02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:22,399 certificate of occupancy is issued um 2581 02:35:22,399 --> 02:35:26,080 fostering um and encouraging um u 2582 02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:28,640 business growth for that particular for 2583 02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,280 that particular particular business. Um, 2584 02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:33,040 other here it is. Other uh 2585 02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:35,359 establishments that have a seal that 2586 02:35:35,359 --> 02:35:38,399 require a seal in our our our city are 2587 02:35:38,399 --> 02:35:42,319 um salons, barber shops, tattoo parlors. 2588 02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:44,800 So those are all um businesses that 2589 02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:47,600 require a certificate of occupancy. 2590 02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:50,479 Um 2591 02:35:50,479 --> 02:35:53,359 uh many uh another another reason is 2592 02:35:53,359 --> 02:35:56,080 professional accountability. So many of 2593 02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:59,200 the spa and wellness uh centers uh use a 2594 02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:03,280 massage uh therapist. So by um a 2595 02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:05,600 certificate of occupancy being issued by 2596 02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:09,840 our code department, it also um 2597 02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:12,000 uh ensures that the professionals who 2598 02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:14,720 work there um meet proper city 2599 02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:16,399 standards. 2600 02:36:16,399 --> 02:36:23,280 um at at the moment um our uh our code 2601 02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:25,760 for massage parlors um and that's what 2602 02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:29,680 it is uh in our in our our code book um 2603 02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:32,399 is just for massage parlors and there's 2604 02:36:32,399 --> 02:36:35,120 nothing in here um saying that they need 2605 02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:38,000 a certificate of occupancy. Um we've 2606 02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:39,600 noticed that there's quite a few just 2607 02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:42,880 popping up in the city. um one in 2608 02:36:42,880 --> 02:36:44,800 particular in in almost a residential 2609 02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:47,040 area with a small sign in the window 2610 02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:51,439 that says uh spa that's kind of lit and 2611 02:36:51,439 --> 02:36:54,640 um encouraging people to go there. So, I 2612 02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,800 think it's important at this time that 2613 02:36:56,800 --> 02:37:01,439 the um we we have a a 6-month moratorum, 2614 02:37:01,439 --> 02:37:04,399 a pause on uh all spa, health and 2615 02:37:04,399 --> 02:37:07,120 wellness spas in the city um and 2616 02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:10,319 prohibit any from opening until we can 2617 02:37:10,319 --> 02:37:12,720 uh uh go in and ensure uh that these 2618 02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:15,120 buildings and these places are safe um 2619 02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:17,520 and issue a certificate of occupancy 2620 02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:20,399 through our code department. 2621 02:37:20,399 --> 02:37:21,439 >> Yes, Miss Patrick. 2622 02:37:21,439 --> 02:37:22,960 >> Um 2623 02:37:22,960 --> 02:37:24,960 interesting. I I didn't know that we 2624 02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:27,520 didn't have to have the CO in these in 2625 02:37:27,520 --> 02:37:28,640 these places. So, this is good 2626 02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:30,960 information to know. Um I'm wondering if 2627 02:37:30,960 --> 02:37:32,960 they have to be licensed by New York 2628 02:37:32,960 --> 02:37:34,479 State. I mean, 2629 02:37:34,479 --> 02:37:36,399 >> like a like a what? 2630 02:37:36,399 --> 02:37:38,720 >> Yeah, I just want to chime in on 2631 02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:41,040 clarification. I I think clarification 2632 02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:44,640 before anybody who's masseuse 2633 02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:46,399 >> has to be licensed by the state 2634 02:37:46,399 --> 02:37:48,640 education department. Yeah, the legend 2635 02:37:48,640 --> 02:37:51,680 you know chapter 177 of the city code 2636 02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:55,439 defines massage paras any establishment 2637 02:37:55,439 --> 02:37:57,200 or business by whatever name call where 2638 02:37:57,200 --> 02:37:59,200 massages are administered. It's a broad 2639 02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:00,560 definition 2640 02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:03,520 >> and it also goes into you know it also 2641 02:38:03,520 --> 02:38:06,800 uh has some exceptions there. Um, but 2642 02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:08,800 you know, a licensed mass or a license 2643 02:38:08,800 --> 02:38:10,640 masseuse is any person that's licensed 2644 02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:12,479 to practice massage in accordance with 2645 02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:14,560 the provisions of article 155 of the 2646 02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:16,160 education law 2647 02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:18,880 >> to vi to do the violation of this city 2648 02:38:18,880 --> 02:38:21,120 code regarding that is an unclassified 2649 02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:22,960 misdemeanor subject to a penalty of up 2650 02:38:22,960 --> 02:38:26,160 to $500. It's also it's a it's a 2651 02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:28,240 licensed profession under the state 2652 02:38:28,240 --> 02:38:30,240 education law which makes it a classy 2653 02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:31,840 felony which may if somebody's 2654 02:38:31,840 --> 02:38:34,160 practicing that profession. Mhm. 2655 02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:38,800 >> Um, so there's a broad definition in in 2656 02:38:38,800 --> 02:38:41,120 chapter 177. Now, if there's going to be 2657 02:38:41,120 --> 02:38:43,040 a certificate of use, you know, there's 2658 02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:46,720 a certificate of use. Um there are 2659 02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:48,880 certain businesses over the years that 2660 02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:51,040 have been added to the certificate of 2661 02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:53,920 use which is a banquet facility, bar 2662 02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:55,920 business, cannabis or tobacco retailer 2663 02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:58,800 consumption or convenience store or 2664 02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:01,680 drugstore, private club or lodge, 2665 02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,080 restaurant or secondhand dealer store. 2666 02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:08,960 So um the the issue is the definition we 2667 02:39:08,960 --> 02:39:11,840 don't know the definition is broad for 2668 02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:14,640 our massage tolerance but whatever it's 2669 02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:16,720 called and and there's certain ex 2670 02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:18,960 exceptions regarding that. 2671 02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,439 >> Um but 2672 02:39:21,439 --> 02:39:26,319 >> the the you know the spa definition you 2673 02:39:26,319 --> 02:39:29,280 know what does that include? 2674 02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:30,960 >> What does that include? Because if you 2675 02:39:30,960 --> 02:39:33,120 if we're going to regulate something, 2676 02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:34,479 >> we got to define it, 2677 02:39:34,479 --> 02:39:35,600 >> right? 2678 02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:37,920 >> And such a definition isn't in our 2679 02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:40,560 zoning code. The only thing we can find 2680 02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:42,720 here is, you know, the massage parlor in 2681 02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:47,429 chapter 177. So 2682 02:39:47,439 --> 02:39:49,280 if if it's if we're going to do a 2683 02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:53,439 certificate of use procedure as well as 2684 02:39:53,439 --> 02:39:55,359 want to incorporate this into our zoning 2685 02:39:55,359 --> 02:39:56,880 code, we probably should have one 2686 02:39:56,880 --> 02:39:59,910 definition. 2687 02:39:59,920 --> 02:40:02,640 So 2688 02:40:02,640 --> 02:40:04,800 you in talking with planning and talking 2689 02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:07,920 to the zoning officer we don't you know 2690 02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:10,880 the health and and this as defined here 2691 02:40:10,880 --> 02:40:14,800 or or not defined here but uh health and 2692 02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:16,560 wellness spa establishments is not 2693 02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:17,680 defined in our code. 2694 02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:18,399 >> Okay. 2695 02:40:18,399 --> 02:40:21,840 >> So we need to define that and then work 2696 02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:24,160 from there because do you include gyms 2697 02:40:24,160 --> 02:40:26,160 in that? You know what do you include in 2698 02:40:26,160 --> 02:40:27,280 that? cuz they 2699 02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:30,479 >> I mean but the thing is if it's massages 2700 02:40:30,479 --> 02:40:32,479 that you're you're you've already got a 2701 02:40:32,479 --> 02:40:34,560 broad 2702 02:40:34,560 --> 02:40:37,120 >> brought something already in the code 2703 02:40:37,120 --> 02:40:38,399 that covers that. 2704 02:40:38,399 --> 02:40:40,720 >> Mhm. 2705 02:40:40,720 --> 02:40:42,560 >> That covers that and makes it you know 2706 02:40:42,560 --> 02:40:44,960 if if you're it says you know if you're 2707 02:40:44,960 --> 02:40:48,720 if if you're if if you're uh it shall be 2708 02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:51,760 unlawful this is 177-2. It should be 2709 02:40:51,760 --> 02:40:53,760 unlawful for any person to practice a 2710 02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:55,840 massage in a massage parlor who's not a 2711 02:40:55,840 --> 02:41:00,240 licensed mass or licensed masseuse. 2712 02:41:00,240 --> 02:41:04,479 >> So um that's that's a broad definition 2713 02:41:04,479 --> 02:41:06,080 but it goes on to you know talk about 2714 02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,840 this you know who doesn't practice 2715 02:41:07,840 --> 02:41:10,479 medicine etc etc. 2716 02:41:10,479 --> 02:41:14,080 >> This our code in chapter 177 mirrors 2717 02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:16,479 what's in the state education law as far 2718 02:41:16,479 --> 02:41:19,920 as the licensing exceptions what the 2719 02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:22,800 requirements are. So, um, if it's adding 2720 02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:25,840 a certificate of use to those list of 2721 02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:27,920 businesses, 2722 02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:30,319 we've got to figure out how we're going 2723 02:41:30,319 --> 02:41:32,560 to do that. And if you want to add that, 2724 02:41:32,560 --> 02:41:34,960 I would suggest you also add that 2725 02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:36,960 definition to the the zoning off the 2726 02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:42,399 zoning code as well. Um and 2727 02:41:42,399 --> 02:41:44,640 uh regarding you know application for a 2728 02:41:44,640 --> 02:41:46,399 certificate views has a whole laundry 2729 02:41:46,399 --> 02:41:48,960 list of requirements that have to be you 2730 02:41:48,960 --> 02:41:56,399 know um various you know security licenses 2731 02:41:56,399 --> 02:41:59,760 etc etc. There's a whole under 183-6 2732 02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:02,240 there's a whole list of requirements 2733 02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:04,000 that when somebody's applying for a 2734 02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:07,120 certificate of use has to provide the 2735 02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:08,960 city in order to get the certificate of 2736 02:42:08,960 --> 02:42:10,080 use. 2737 02:42:10,080 --> 02:42:11,760 >> So I just wanted to kind of in broad 2738 02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:16,240 brush say that 177 if if it's illegal 2739 02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:19,600 massage parlors the definition is is 2740 02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:21,359 very it doesn't have to be called a 2741 02:42:21,359 --> 02:42:23,920 massage parlor under our city code. It's 2742 02:42:23,920 --> 02:42:26,160 a very broad definition. 2743 02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:28,160 >> All right. So, let me just um So, let me 2744 02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:30,800 just clarify. So, don't don't all 2745 02:42:30,800 --> 02:42:32,560 businesses have to get a certificate of 2746 02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:33,840 occupancy for the building that they're 2747 02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:34,160 in? 2748 02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:35,200 >> Well, yeah, they have to use. 2749 02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:37,120 >> So, they have this certificate of use, 2750 02:42:37,120 --> 02:42:38,720 >> but they don't necessarily need a 2751 02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:40,319 certificate of use for that particular 2752 02:42:40,319 --> 02:42:41,280 purpose. 2753 02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:44,160 >> Okay. Just to be clear, oh, Miss Patrick 2754 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:46,000 and then uh cuz she wasn't finished, Mr. 2755 02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:49,040 And then Mr. Ma, Miss Patrick. 2756 02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:52,640 >> Yes. Um so, I guess I think there I 2757 02:42:52,640 --> 02:42:54,560 think what we're talking about right now 2758 02:42:54,560 --> 02:42:57,200 is a moratorum. Um I think there's a lot 2759 02:42:57,200 --> 02:42:59,760 of questions and a lot of research and a 2760 02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:02,720 lot of uh things that will have to be uh 2761 02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:04,640 discussed. So I think having the 2762 02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:07,280 moratorum on new 2763 02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:10,560 businesses of this sort um I could 2764 02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:13,040 support um because I think there's a lot 2765 02:43:13,040 --> 02:43:14,640 of questions. I mean I think when you 2766 02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:17,040 think about all the independent salons 2767 02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:18,880 that might have somebody coming over and 2768 02:43:18,880 --> 02:43:21,760 massaging I mean there's a lot of stuff 2769 02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:24,319 that can get 2770 02:43:24,319 --> 02:43:27,760 involved here. So I think the moratorum 2771 02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:29,680 would be okay while we try to 2772 02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:30,880 investigate all that stuff. 2773 02:43:30,880 --> 02:43:32,479 >> Well, I'm going to ask Mr. M to speak, 2774 02:43:32,479 --> 02:43:33,840 but I'm not sure how we do a moratorium 2775 02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:35,359 on something that doesn't really exist 2776 02:43:35,359 --> 02:43:36,960 yet. So Mr. M. 2777 02:43:36,960 --> 02:43:38,399 >> Yeah, just what I was going to ask on 2778 02:43:38,399 --> 02:43:40,720 the legal side, can we do something like 2779 02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:42,240 that? The council recommends something 2780 02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,720 like talking to the planner and the 2781 02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:47,040 zoning officer. If you recall, if you 2782 02:43:47,040 --> 02:43:49,279 recall, you know, our moratoriums for 2783 02:43:49,279 --> 02:43:51,920 the vape shops and and and the to, you 2784 02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:54,399 know, the cannabis shops, we had a 2785 02:43:54,399 --> 02:43:55,200 definition. 2786 02:43:55,200 --> 02:43:55,760 >> Mhm. 2787 02:43:55,760 --> 02:43:58,319 >> You had a definition in which to say 2788 02:43:58,319 --> 02:44:00,560 this is the type of estab, you know, 2789 02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:04,000 that that that's going to be um the 2790 02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:06,960 subject of a moratorum for 6 months or 2791 02:44:06,960 --> 02:44:09,600 we we work out what the zoning code is. 2792 02:44:09,600 --> 02:44:12,240 >> What I'm you know, I've got to get you 2793 02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:14,080 know, we've got you've got to get you 2794 02:44:14,080 --> 02:44:15,760 know, get a definition 2795 02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:17,680 before we even get to the moratorum 2796 02:44:17,680 --> 02:44:20,560 stage and 2797 02:44:20,560 --> 02:44:24,240 do we work off of what's in chapter 177 2798 02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:26,560 do we look at other localities we don't 2799 02:44:26,560 --> 02:44:29,200 mean we like I said you know how we 2800 02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:30,720 don't want to put gyms in this but you 2801 02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:33,520 know what how do you define what you 2802 02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:36,080 want to do and then once we get a 2803 02:44:36,080 --> 02:44:37,439 definition 2804 02:44:37,439 --> 02:44:39,840 >> that's that's workable 2805 02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:43,680 um then you can look at putting a 2806 02:44:43,680 --> 02:44:46,000 regulatory scheme in various chapters of 2807 02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:49,040 the code. But I am I I you know I talked 2808 02:44:49,040 --> 02:44:50,640 to the planners today. I talked to the 2809 02:44:50,640 --> 02:44:56,080 zoning all we don't have a definition of what is referred to here that 2810 02:44:56,080 --> 02:44:59,040 wellness and spot is not definition in 2811 02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:03,040 our code but we can work one out. 2812 02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:05,359 >> Yeah just follow Mr. Torio mentioned 2813 02:45:05,359 --> 02:45:08,160 during your presentation certificate of 2814 02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:11,359 occupancy and certificate of use. It is 2815 02:45:11,359 --> 02:45:12,960 my understanding that once a permit is 2816 02:45:12,960 --> 02:45:14,880 pulled, inspection is done, then a 2817 02:45:14,880 --> 02:45:17,040 clearance is given to occupy that space 2818 02:45:17,040 --> 02:45:19,920 or building. So if you're opening a 2819 02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:21,840 business, that should follow the 2820 02:45:21,840 --> 02:45:24,880 protocol. So I'm not sure if a 2821 02:45:24,880 --> 02:45:26,800 certificate of occupancy or are you 2822 02:45:26,800 --> 02:45:28,479 requiring a certificate of use? 2823 02:45:28,479 --> 02:45:30,240 occupancy because 2824 02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:31,920 >> not a certificate of use. 2825 02:45:31,920 --> 02:45:33,520 >> The certificate of use is the more 2826 02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:34,880 detailed detail 2827 02:45:34,880 --> 02:45:36,640 >> more detailed one, but at this time I'm 2828 02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:38,000 being told that a lot of them are 2829 02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:40,240 popping up without a certificate of 2830 02:45:40,240 --> 02:45:42,000 occupancy. 2831 02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:43,920 >> But I think the certificate of use may 2832 02:45:43,920 --> 02:45:45,840 get you where you want to go. Yes. 2833 02:45:45,840 --> 02:45:47,120 >> So that's why I want to clarify 2834 02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:48,720 certificate of occupancy. the permit 2835 02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:50,720 pull that protocol in place for 2836 02:45:50,720 --> 02:45:53,680 inspection approval 2837 02:45:53,680 --> 02:45:55,760 >> and then um the certificate of user 2838 02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:57,840 follows in terms of the regulation once 2839 02:45:57,840 --> 02:45:58,720 it's adopted 2840 02:45:58,720 --> 02:45:59,040 >> right 2841 02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:00,319 >> I just want to clarify 2842 02:46:00,319 --> 02:46:02,800 >> absolutely yes because I don't think the 2843 02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:04,479 mayor you wanted to make a point Mr. 2844 02:46:04,479 --> 02:46:05,120 here. 2845 02:46:05,120 --> 02:46:09,910 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh 2846 02:46:09,920 --> 02:46:12,000 these businesses that are popping up are 2847 02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:13,840 creating 2848 02:46:13,840 --> 02:46:15,680 really some adverse situations and 2849 02:46:15,680 --> 02:46:17,200 there's been some arrests made in some 2850 02:46:17,200 --> 02:46:20,479 of these some adjacent communities. So 2851 02:46:20,479 --> 02:46:23,760 that I would encourage the council to 2852 02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:27,840 uh go forward on this and is it Mtor 2853 02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:29,600 what you're outlining is like a two-step 2854 02:46:29,600 --> 02:46:31,600 process. you have to come up with a 2855 02:46:31,600 --> 02:46:34,880 definition, but could you come up with a 2856 02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:37,760 definition and incorporate it in the 2857 02:46:37,760 --> 02:46:40,240 moratorum? So, it's a one-step process 2858 02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:42,479 where it's not reflected in the code 2859 02:46:42,479 --> 02:46:45,520 until the end of the moratorum, 2860 02:46:45,520 --> 02:46:47,040 >> right, mayor? I mean, you could do it 2861 02:46:47,040 --> 02:46:50,000 all one. The point we can do a moratorum 2862 02:46:50,000 --> 02:46:52,479 legislation which you all did before and 2863 02:46:52,479 --> 02:46:56,240 in that it can have the definition but 2864 02:46:56,240 --> 02:46:58,720 what I want you know and that's the 2865 02:46:58,720 --> 02:47:00,640 moratorium langu which we can build off 2866 02:47:00,640 --> 02:47:03,439 of what we used previously that's 2867 02:47:03,439 --> 02:47:06,000 >> but I I what I'd like to do is for a 2868 02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:07,439 couple of weeks you know for our next 2869 02:47:07,439 --> 02:47:10,160 cycle to work on that definition give 2870 02:47:10,160 --> 02:47:13,279 you a definition maybe work that into a 2871 02:47:13,279 --> 02:47:15,279 moratorum piece of legislation where 2872 02:47:15,279 --> 02:47:17,359 this is all going to fit and give you a 2873 02:47:17,359 --> 02:47:18,880 working draft, 2874 02:47:18,880 --> 02:47:19,520 >> right? 2875 02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:20,640 >> To look at 2876 02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:20,960 >> that. 2877 02:47:20,960 --> 02:47:22,640 >> Just just as a working draft, so you 2878 02:47:22,640 --> 02:47:24,720 have a the definition we can you can add 2879 02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:27,279 to it, subtract to it, whatever. 2880 02:47:27,279 --> 02:47:30,080 >> That makes sense to me. Um, Mr. Barley. 2881 02:47:30,080 --> 02:47:33,439 >> Yeah. So, I think the mayor is talking 2882 02:47:33,439 --> 02:47:34,640 about some things that were happening. 2883 02:47:34,640 --> 02:47:36,479 You said in some adjacent communities. 2884 02:47:36,479 --> 02:47:36,800 >> Yeah. 2885 02:47:36,800 --> 02:47:39,520 >> Um, and I think that that was some real 2886 02:47:39,520 --> 02:47:40,880 >> sky police and the state police have 2887 02:47:40,880 --> 02:47:43,200 made similar arrests in the city of Sky. 2888 02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:46,160 >> Okay. At a spot. Um my so I my my 2889 02:47:46,160 --> 02:47:48,560 question would be um where's this 2890 02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:50,080 where's the spa at that you're talking 2891 02:47:50,080 --> 02:47:51,120 about that you were saying that 2892 02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:53,279 >> I haven't reported it to a co our code 2893 02:47:53,279 --> 02:47:54,080 department. 2894 02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:56,640 >> Okay. All right. So 2895 02:47:56,640 --> 02:47:58,800 >> do you not want to say 2896 02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:02,800 >> no there's a number of them throughout 2897 02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:04,240 which you don't want to say which ones 2898 02:48:04,240 --> 02:48:04,960 you're reporting. 2899 02:48:04,960 --> 02:48:07,040 >> Yeah. Exactly. I don't think we should 2900 02:48:07,040 --> 02:48:08,720 Sorry. I don't think we should do that 2901 02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:10,880 publicly call one or two because there's 2902 02:48:10,880 --> 02:48:12,399 a lot. 2903 02:48:12,399 --> 02:48:13,600 >> Sorry. 2904 02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:14,319 me. 2905 02:48:14,319 --> 02:48:16,720 >> Well, I just when we had a smoke shop 2906 02:48:16,720 --> 02:48:18,479 conversation, we were pretty descriptive 2907 02:48:18,479 --> 02:48:19,600 actually. We were saying there's one 2908 02:48:19,600 --> 02:48:20,960 here and there's one here and one here. 2909 02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:22,399 We were talking about that. So, that's 2910 02:48:22,399 --> 02:48:24,000 why I was asking about that. I'm trying 2911 02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:27,040 to get a better understanding. Okay. 2912 02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:29,040 >> All right. Um, so and and the other 2913 02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:30,160 thing I want to add to this conversation 2914 02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:32,240 is that we we're mentioning spas and so 2915 02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:33,840 there are places that you go that people 2916 02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:36,240 they call them spas and people women and 2917 02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:37,840 men go get their toes done, their nails 2918 02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:39,840 done and they're calling those spas. So 2919 02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:42,319 I think that we have to be clear that 2920 02:48:42,319 --> 02:48:44,080 what we're talking about otherwise you 2921 02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:44,960 know you're not going to be able to get 2922 02:48:44,960 --> 02:48:46,640 your nails done. 2923 02:48:46,640 --> 02:48:48,960 >> So um you know because it was mentioned 2924 02:48:48,960 --> 02:48:51,359 massage pallet and spas. So I think in 2925 02:48:51,359 --> 02:48:54,319 our whatever we put into the code you 2926 02:48:54,319 --> 02:48:55,760 have to be 2927 02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:58,240 >> or or you can I'm just thinking you just 2928 02:48:58,240 --> 02:49:02,800 use the definition that you've you know work off of the definition in 2929 02:49:02,800 --> 02:49:04,319 chapter 177. 2930 02:49:04,319 --> 02:49:05,359 >> Okay. 2931 02:49:05,359 --> 02:49:07,200 >> That will narrow it down to what you 2932 02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:08,160 want to do. Okay. 2933 02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:10,720 >> And it's already a regulated field via 2934 02:49:10,720 --> 02:49:13,359 our code and as well as the state. 2935 02:49:13,359 --> 02:49:14,479 >> Right. Right. 2936 02:49:14,479 --> 02:49:16,800 >> So we can work off of that and maybe 2937 02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:19,040 narrow it down so it doesn't go into 2938 02:49:19,040 --> 02:49:21,359 areas that you you all don't want to go 2939 02:49:21,359 --> 02:49:22,560 into. 2940 02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:24,160 >> Right. And I want to ask one other 2941 02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:26,640 question, Mr. O'Brien. So um for 2942 02:49:26,640 --> 02:49:28,640 individuals who are there their license 2943 02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:31,920 muse in wherever they work, uh does that 2944 02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:33,760 particular place need the health 2945 02:49:33,760 --> 02:49:35,840 department to come in and inspect at 2946 02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:37,439 all? 2947 02:49:37,439 --> 02:49:39,279 I I can't speak for the county health 2948 02:49:39,279 --> 02:49:40,720 department, but they, you know, they 2949 02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:43,760 have to have a state a licensed masseuse 2950 02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:46,640 is is is licensed and has to, you know, 2951 02:49:46,640 --> 02:49:48,800 by the state ed education department, 2952 02:49:48,800 --> 02:49:50,399 they have to keep their requirements up 2953 02:49:50,399 --> 02:49:52,720 and and and maintain to be licensed. 2954 02:49:52,720 --> 02:49:55,120 >> Okay. to them and if they're doing 2955 02:49:55,120 --> 02:49:56,080 something without 2956 02:49:56,080 --> 02:49:58,319 >> some of these businesses, madam chair, 2957 02:49:58,319 --> 02:50:00,640 are positions of convenience which 2958 02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:03,439 technical review might require the 2959 02:50:03,439 --> 02:50:06,080 department of health might require the 2960 02:50:06,080 --> 02:50:09,840 department of state some I think are 2961 02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:11,520 department of education some of the 2962 02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:12,080 licenses 2963 02:50:12,080 --> 02:50:13,439 >> right I mean this is all department of 2964 02:50:13,439 --> 02:50:16,319 education with sus it's all it's it's 2965 02:50:16,319 --> 02:50:18,479 one of the listed professions by state 2966 02:50:18,479 --> 02:50:20,560 ed or so there 2967 02:50:20,560 --> 02:50:22,000 >> yes Mr. Sure. 2968 02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:23,760 >> Thank you. So, I just want to say, you 2969 02:50:23,760 --> 02:50:25,439 know, when we do what spas you were 2970 02:50:25,439 --> 02:50:27,040 talking about, we all went to spas, you 2971 02:50:27,040 --> 02:50:28,960 know, we get our nails done or whatever, 2972 02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:30,640 but always on the wall are their 2973 02:50:30,640 --> 02:50:32,080 certificates, you know, from New York 2974 02:50:32,080 --> 02:50:34,960 State Department of Health, uh, county 2975 02:50:34,960 --> 02:50:36,960 health department, the New York State 2976 02:50:36,960 --> 02:50:39,200 Health Department. Um, so everyone has 2977 02:50:39,200 --> 02:50:40,880 their picture and things on there. So 2978 02:50:40,880 --> 02:50:43,600 again, we don't want to, 2979 02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:45,600 you know, implement this on businesses 2980 02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:50,080 that are doing uh, you know, better or 2981 02:50:50,080 --> 02:50:52,399 have certificates of use and 2982 02:50:52,399 --> 02:50:54,640 certificates of occupancy. This is just 2983 02:50:54,640 --> 02:50:57,120 to prevent um, businesses from popping 2984 02:50:57,120 --> 02:51:00,319 up in the city that aren't aren't quite 2985 02:51:00,319 --> 02:51:02,880 legal 2986 02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:04,640 and legal in the sense that they're not 2987 02:51:04,640 --> 02:51:06,399 registered with us. That's the only 2988 02:51:06,399 --> 02:51:09,840 thing that I mean, absolutely. 2989 02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:12,560 I didn't think you met anybody else. Mr. 2990 02:51:12,560 --> 02:51:13,680 M, do you have a hand up? 2991 02:51:13,680 --> 02:51:15,760 >> No, no. Because I mean, we can't blame 2992 02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:18,399 them because we don't have it in. 2993 02:51:18,399 --> 02:51:21,200 >> So that's okay because I mean I'm glad 2994 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:22,640 that it's being brought forward now in 2995 02:51:22,640 --> 02:51:24,399 terms of moving forward for a certain 2996 02:51:24,399 --> 02:51:25,439 views. 2997 02:51:25,439 --> 02:51:27,920 >> Well, we don't have that in the unlisted 2998 02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:29,760 this kind of business. 2999 02:51:29,760 --> 02:51:31,439 >> Well, we do. 3000 02:51:31,439 --> 02:51:34,319 >> So then why are we even Well, we do, but 3001 02:51:34,319 --> 02:51:36,160 it's not under certificate of use. if 3002 02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:37,760 you want to take it up and and then put 3003 02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:41,120 into zoning area and what about areas 3004 02:51:41,120 --> 02:51:43,680 that there is a license masseuse that's 3005 02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:45,279 you know where you want to have that. 3006 02:51:45,279 --> 02:51:48,240 >> So he's saying that we have massage pol 3007 02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:51,040 in her code already. So but Mr. Toro 3008 02:51:51,040 --> 02:51:53,439 says so it's a so the certificate of 3009 02:51:53,439 --> 02:51:55,680 occupancy happens but she's asking for a 3010 02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:57,359 certificate of use 3011 02:51:57,359 --> 02:51:59,840 >> and it's not a bad idea to put that in 3012 02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:03,040 the zoning code. So I mean between the 3013 02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:04,800 certificate use and and put that 3014 02:52:04,800 --> 02:52:06,880 definition into the code the zoning code 3015 02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:07,920 as well 3016 02:52:07,920 --> 02:52:09,520 >> and but right now we don't have that 3017 02:52:09,520 --> 02:52:10,399 there. So 3018 02:52:10,399 --> 02:52:12,479 >> it's just it's just in that one chapter 3019 02:52:12,479 --> 02:52:14,640 >> the next step is your hand up. 3020 02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:18,240 >> Yeah. question. And so like and then we 3021 02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:19,920 just talking about actual brick and 3022 02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:21,520 mortars or are we talking about people 3023 02:52:21,520 --> 02:52:24,560 who like go to people's houses like what 3024 02:52:24,560 --> 02:52:27,520 if that's also illegal 3025 02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:29,680 if they're 3026 02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:32,880 any p practice massage 3027 02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:36,800 um it doesn't you know um any person's 3028 02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:39,359 it is the application of scientific 3029 02:52:39,359 --> 02:52:41,600 system of activity to the it goes 3030 02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:43,920 through a whole definition 3031 02:52:43,920 --> 02:52:45,439 Um, 3032 02:52:45,439 --> 02:52:49,359 but it also has certain exemptions under the code. 3033 02:52:49,359 --> 02:52:51,200 >> I'm pretty sure that in New York State 3034 02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:52,720 that they have traveling mass. There's 3035 02:52:52,720 --> 02:52:54,000 people who pack up and go to people's 3036 02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:56,240 houses. That's traveling masseuse. Um, 3037 02:52:56,240 --> 02:52:57,600 >> right. But they need to still be 3038 02:52:57,600 --> 02:52:58,080 licensed. 3039 02:52:58,080 --> 02:53:00,880 >> Oh, 100%. 3040 02:53:00,880 --> 02:53:06,800 Without question. Because the issue is you've got to be licensed, 3041 02:53:06,800 --> 02:53:07,279 >> right? 3042 02:53:07,279 --> 02:53:09,200 >> That's the that's the key under our code 3043 02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:10,880 and under the state law. 3044 02:53:10,880 --> 02:53:12,640 >> See, that's my question. So, but we're 3045 02:53:12,640 --> 02:53:14,479 not So, 3046 02:53:14,479 --> 02:53:16,800 obviously, are we saying that that 3047 02:53:16,800 --> 02:53:18,160 there's people who are doing this right 3048 02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:19,760 now? The question is that they're not 3049 02:53:19,760 --> 02:53:24,080 licensed massage therapist. Yeah. And they're 3050 02:53:24,080 --> 02:53:26,479 doing this and I and there's is there a 3051 02:53:26,479 --> 02:53:28,560 difference between massage therapist? 3052 02:53:28,560 --> 02:53:31,200 True. Is that is that a important 3053 02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:32,080 distinction to make? 3054 02:53:32,080 --> 02:53:33,520 >> Well, the arrests have been made on 3055 02:53:33,520 --> 02:53:36,319 prostitution. 3056 02:53:36,319 --> 02:53:39,680 >> Well, that's where Okay. and and 3057 02:53:39,680 --> 02:53:42,560 >> we're already pretty clear that that's 3058 02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:45,760 right and Mr. Finally to mass mass or 3059 02:53:45,760 --> 02:53:48,240 massage shed service or pursuant to the 3060 02:53:48,240 --> 02:53:50,560 state education law are all grouped 3061 02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:54,720 together under uh under the uh practice 3062 02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:59,269 they're interchangeable. 3063 02:53:59,279 --> 02:54:00,960 » Yes. 3064 02:54:00,960 --> 02:54:02,000 >> Oh yeah. 3065 02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:02,720 >> That's okay. 3066 02:54:02,720 --> 02:54:04,880 >> So since we're we're we're talking about 3067 02:54:04,880 --> 02:54:06,960 reforming this to zoning should we 3068 02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:09,040 consider location like how we did with 3069 02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:12,720 the smoke shops and you know business? I 3070 02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:12,960 think 3071 02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:14,960 >> in terms of zoning location for these 3072 02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:15,920 type of business. 3073 02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:17,920 >> I think what we need to do is probably 3074 02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:19,600 work with the planners and the zoning 3075 02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:21,600 officer and then work with the 3076 02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:24,800 definition and then get a moratorum uh 3077 02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:26,640 framework together then come back to 3078 02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:27,279 you. 3079 02:54:27,279 --> 02:54:29,359 >> Okay. All right. Miss Patrick again. 3080 02:54:29,359 --> 02:54:31,120 That's exactly what I was going to I was 3081 02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:33,840 just going to remind us that 3082 02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:37,279 um council that had suggested suggested 3083 02:54:37,279 --> 02:54:39,120 that I think it's important to remember 3084 02:54:39,120 --> 02:54:43,120 that we're trying to um this would be to 3085 02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:47,279 try to um make sure that folks are legal 3086 02:54:47,279 --> 02:54:49,200 and also I think the health aspect is 3087 02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:52,000 very important. Um that those two things 3088 02:54:52,000 --> 02:54:56,070 that institutions 3089 02:54:56,080 --> 02:54:57,920 » and so Mr. So Brian, what what time 3090 02:54:57,920 --> 02:54:59,359 frame would you um 3091 02:54:59,359 --> 02:55:01,120 >> um let's let's give it a go for two 3092 02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:02,000 weeks. 3093 02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:05,120 >> I mean, you know, the next one uh next 3094 02:55:05,120 --> 02:55:07,760 month committee cycle. We give it a go 3095 02:55:07,760 --> 02:55:11,200 and see if what we can present to you. 3096 02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:13,279 >> Okay. So, Mr. Tro, this is going to come 3097 02:55:13,279 --> 02:55:14,000 back in two weeks. 3098 02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:15,600 >> Thank you. Okay. Thank you. 3099 02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:17,120 >> You're welcome. 3100 02:55:17,120 --> 02:55:19,439 >> All right. The final items have to do 3101 02:55:19,439 --> 02:55:22,880 with property sales and uh so therefore, 3102 02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:26,160 we'd have to go into executive session. 3103 02:55:26,160 --> 02:55:29,040 Um I make a motion to executive session. 3104 02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:31,120 All right. 3105 02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:32,479 >> I need a second for the executive 3106 02:55:32,479 --> 02:55:33,120 session. 3107 02:55:33,120 --> 02:55:34,000 >> So 3108 02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:36,319 >> all those in favor? We are in executive 3109 02:55:36,319 --> 02:55:38,080 session and members of the public will 3110 02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:40,720 have to leave. I will be right back. 3111 02:55:40,720 --> 02:55:50,950 Okay. 3112 02:55:50,960 --> 02:55:55,100 Heat. Heat. 3113 02:55:55,110 --> 02:56:15,299 [Music]