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» Was a big moment against Boston.

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Let's check it out.

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» As always,

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>> you guys doing

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>> Should say maybe I'll catch a fire.

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» You might be recording. Okay.

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I just want to be there to help you.

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>> How does that sound? Right. You have to

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>> You can't control what happens.

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I talked to my uncle this morning. I

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told him I was going to be here. He

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>> I think he came to everyone.

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>> Does anybody else feel

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» Well, we all have phones.

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>> Yeah, I was watching them in Europe. My

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wife had played the European trip. So

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» Hi, how are you?

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» I brought snacks.

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» Hi, Derek. How are you?

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>> How's it going?

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» Oh, that's the balls.

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sort of force

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definitely going to sit up.

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Hello.

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Go get it.

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I know I have to offer this.

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everyone. I'm going to start recording.

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questions for a long

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I got a little for you.

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» Okay.

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and then it is consistent.

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like the order

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meetings under the finance committee is

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Wednesday October 8th.

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Great. I'd like to turn it over to the

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problem.

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call the finance committee to order and

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the order of business today is to review

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the 206

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proposed budget from authority

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and we will start in order of asking the

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commission of finance to give us a high

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level overview of the 2026 proposed

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budget and then we'll move into the

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relevant department.

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>> Good evening council. uh four starts for

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that field. Uh in the back we have the

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uh budget for 26 over here

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each uh fund and revenue expenditures.

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Uh we've also had historical analysis

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compared with the overtime rate for each

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department. Uh so show you from year to

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date as of 9:30

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see we also included open MBS for the

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council to review

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and the last document is analysis

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the general fund just a few items

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So the proposed 2026 budget is

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120 million

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uh which is a 3.17%

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within the 2025 adopted budget by

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3,71,747

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the adopted 2025 budget compatible with

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116 million 117 million

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6.3%

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of 2024

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Real property tax increase by 5,949,4

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that's 173

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increased in 2025 without the budget a

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2.39 tax rate increase from 1330 to

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15.77.

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Uh just for a historical analysis uh

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from 2015 to 2025 the average percentage

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of levy budget to levy to budget is

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33.84%.

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Projected 2026 level is only 32.66% of

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the budget. So from 2015 to 2025

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gradually decrease from 38.73 to 28.6.

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An increase in waste collection fees

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resulted in 2.329126

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additional revenue for credit 2025

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adopted budget. It equates to 110

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increase annually for nom units which

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equals to 2.12

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per week

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that 340 to 450 and $768

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at 46 per week.

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The proposed 2026 budget also asks for 2

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million in appropriated fund balance.

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Currently, this city has 18.9 million in

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fund balance which is made up of

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6.6 million restricted. This includes

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reserve for debt 1.1 million. Capital

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reserves about 4.3 million taxes of

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858,000 and snow and ice 157,000

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approximately litigation and claims

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218,000 approximately and 6.2 2 million

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for funds the 2020 which is part of it

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is the 2025 adopted appropriate fund

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balance and open orders.

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>> Excuse me. D could you please tell me

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that number again for the fund balance

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the current fund balance 18.9.

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>> Thank you.

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>> But that's broken up into restricted and

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assigned and unsigned.

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We have about $6.1 million unassigned

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funds with the city uh the city

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utilizing 2 million fund balance for

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2026. There'll approximately be 4.1

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million left over funds. Um this also

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see the city does not require more than

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the 2025 adopted appropriate fund

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balance at year end.

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the 20 the 2026 retirement increased

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by$1.1

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million and 8.13%

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increase from the 25 budget of $13,612

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13,612,000

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MVP health insurance increased by 12.49%

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49% 15 million approximately 2025 post

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2026 budget for 17 million and this uh

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to the many factors including employment

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growth medical trends pharmacy trend

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stop loss premium increases uh including

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utilization high cost payments uh

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increase in specialty drugs these are

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the one medications

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um we are taking a very good proactive

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measures reducing forecast from 19

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million to 17 million budget uh by

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leveraging key formal areas uh which

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manages pharmacy spend and boosted

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rebates and targeting plan design

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adjustments.

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The 2026 proposed budget debt service

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increase by 6.79%

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resulting in 632,000

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additional cost that's 9.3 million to

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9.9 million. We have union negotiations

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that are up progress both 28 and 1037.

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Uh we negotiated cost will come out

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excuse me when negotiated the cost will

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come out of fund balance.

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Uh moving to the water fund.

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budget for 26 reflects a

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5.39% increase with the 25 2025 or

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approximately $543,000.

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This growth is driven by increased

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operating cost to effort to support the

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city's general fund

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for proposed water budget liter

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That's approximately 01082 per gallon or

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gallons and meter water sales in city

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commercial units 2.971 to 3.56594

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per gallon or.59

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per thousand gallons to close the

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remaining budget gap city will

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appropriate $485,751

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from the water fund balance additionally

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city fund transfer to the general fund

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by appropriately by approximately

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$400,000 providing for budgetary

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support.

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Sewer fund 2026 sewer fund request 6.04%

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increase compared to the 2025 do budget

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increase of $1 million. No fee increases

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are advised for the proposed tour

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budget. Appropriate debt reserve of

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100,000 will be utilized to pay off

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debt. Transfer to the general fund has

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increased by $100,000 from approximately

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2.2 2 million to 8.3 million

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post

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request 8.54% compared to the 2025

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budget. This is a marginal increase of

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131,000.

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A modest rate of adjustments anticipated

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and will be addressed in January 2026 on

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prior practices.

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The capital budget the proposed capital

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budget for 2026 totals approximately

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11.4 4 million which includes 6.2

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million demo 376,000 golf 1.9 million

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reorder and 2.9 million

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and requests which in request of which

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1.3 million capital reserves and 800,000

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state funds for net share of 9.3

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» Thank you for the

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Um, we'll now go into the detail of the

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revenue. We'll start with revenue and

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>> Can you please provide council members

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talking?

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So we'll go into revenue

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if you can just walk us through.

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>> Yeah. I'm just going to go some key

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facilities from the general plan

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for sales and use tax. U we received

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18.7 approximately 20.46.

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Uh these numbers also verify the county

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our county sales tax,

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door of 70025k

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>> What was that last number?

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>> 700,000

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» uh trash charges paid 2138. The city

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anticipates receiving approximately 203

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million more revenue for 2026 from 7

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The excess waste fee this revenue has

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been removed as no legislation has been

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passed.

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Fines parking city has received 640k for

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the budget

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640k budget 910,000 for 2025

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anticipating the same figure in 2026. We

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have the new revenue code speed side

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counters for schools. Uh with announces

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from the police department, we're

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estimating approximately 2.300 to 20.6.

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The profiles uh estimating 400,000 for

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2026

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sale homes that houses A260A with we are

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anticipating $30 million in revenue for

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2026

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per capita state aid

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if you will,6

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context the city has received a

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that didn't figure.

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>> Which one was that again please?

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>> That is the capital state.

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>> Oh 89k.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> We are receiving a temporary

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8301.3

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million in 2026. There's no guarantee

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that it will exceed this amount of

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future meters.

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The license 83089H

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2020 the city received approximately 3.9

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million in revenue anticipates 4 million

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again 2025 budget 4.1 million6

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again this is based upon funding as well

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the appropriate fund balance 85996

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budget also ask for 2 million

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appropriate fund balance currently the

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city at 189 million fund balance which

300
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6.6 million and discuss this earlier

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during the key overview. Um so again if

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the city was 2.2 2 million fund balance

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approximately 4.1 million sign

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and this again this assumes that we

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don't uh require more in 2025

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federal co assistance art 8499

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as everyone

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aware of funds remain

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» are there any questions

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to the revenue

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Just making sure I I was my questions

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got answered in advance. So I just want

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to make sure I don't have any additional

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questions before we move on.

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>> Go ahead, please.

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>> Um under A1170

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grand.

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Um I know it looks like the electric

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solid waste. What specifically is that the 720,000?

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>> All right. What was that? um under

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revenue. Yeah. Franchises.

322
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» What's the number?

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>> A17

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project.

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>> So I I know we get some utility first

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receipts.

327
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I was just wondering is it electric

328
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fable gas um solid waste specifically

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are those detail receipts

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that

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question I'll get back to you. Thank

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you.

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» Go ahead, please.

334
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>> Um,

335
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well, it doesn't have a code yet called

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new. It's on page 12,

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please.

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>> Police department. So, I don't know if

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they're in the room,

340
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but maybe detail to that.

341
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>> Thank you. What what line is that again,

342
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please?

343
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:48,559
>> It doesn't have a line. It's on page 12.

344
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It says new.

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» Can you make a note?

346
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>> We'll email and try to get an answer

347
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with regard to the program.

348
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» Any other question regarding revenue?

349
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,679
>> Not that we have anything.

350
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>> Yes, that's we'll make notes and We'll

351
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revisit two questions regarding the

352
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revenue section.

353
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» And if you have not submit question,

354
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please you can answer it. It's not late.

355
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You can submit your question regarding

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the revenue and we'll get answers.

357
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,640
>> Okay, we'll move on. We'll move to city

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council

359
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commissioner. You just give us give us a

360
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walk highlight.

361
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Any question we'll ask and then move

362
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forward into the next um

363
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department.

364
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>> I can tell you that I did an email and

365
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they didn't respond. Not just now

366
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responded just yet.

367
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I'm pretty sure that

368
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I list them and list

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the documentation and then once we are

370
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That's great.

371
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» We'll make sure we go through all the

372
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questions that the answers are there and

373
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that we'll just have to revisit it and

374
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ask.

375
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» So, council P10,0007,000

376
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4,45 increase. Uh this is just a

377
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reduction of some other expense line

378
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items looking at your dates that

379
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we made a decision to do some

380
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» 104 that there

381
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» can you tell us what those reductions

382
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Why are they producing

383
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year to date we have 2030 there are

384
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16,000 and 24,000

385
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,520
uh last time we checked the year it's

386
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going to be around that figure so

387
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to reduce that by $10,000

388
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and

389
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So conserves us the budget proposed

390
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budget and 24 zeros actual usage.

391
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>> Um so we felt that we could reduce it by

392
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another 235.

393
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>> Do we have a year to date on that?

394
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>> Uh it's in the packet.

395
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Are there any questions?

396
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,880
>> Seeing none, we'll move to the Mia

397
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office 8 12.

398
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>> Okay.

399
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office increased by 3.29% from 395,000 5

400
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to 48,000 to $13,000 increase. Um

401
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there's uh increases due to um one one

402
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,840
to the executive salary for the U

403
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000
secretary to keep in mind with the

404
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chief's uh executive secretary

405
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um and the $3,000 for the director of

406
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operations uh for outside working hours.

407
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» Go ahead.

408
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,640
>> So you're saying for the executive

409
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secretary to keep in line with the

410
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police chief's executive secretary and

411
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fire chief executive.

412
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:19,840
>> Okay. Um

413
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would be similar. And how about the

414
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length of service? That was that taken

415
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:26,720
consideration as well?

416
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,120
>> No, it was not. um we have different

417
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duties.

418
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to engage

419
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» but I thought the engagement was based

420
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on similar based on the fact that

421
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there's

422
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any other question.

423
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Let's

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find out

425
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the other HR

426
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unless you want to sit with us

427
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,880
process. So we'll do receipts and that

428
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,710
is on page 16

429
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overview for receipts 1325.97%

430
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from 339,000

431
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approximately 27 37

432
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staff.

433
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» You just want to give us

434
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» Did you have specific questions?

435
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,919
>> No, just can just give us an overview of

436
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:04,310
what's happening.

437
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,919
» We don't need to talk about

438
00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:09,039
similar to last year.

439
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:10,559
>> Yeah, there's there's really not a lot

440
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,279
of it was shady. I mean, we did try to

441
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:19,430
trim down um some of the extens

442
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,640
we bring that back a little bit. What I

443
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320
propose I think we I think with the more

444
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,080
foreclosures that we've had and then

445
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,440
sending out less leny notice is more

446
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,039
people are paying but it's still

447
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:34,799
sizable. So, we have to take the race

448
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,320
into consideration. Um my real estate

449
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,919
tax specialist salary was um raised by

450
00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:45,840
an MOA um that was retroactive to

451
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,000
January. So that we see that um jump

452
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,919
there

453
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,720
and then we have longevity increased

454
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,519
this year as well. So that did affect a

455
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,240
few of us as far as that increase.

456
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,039
Overall it's

457
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:07,669
very small.

458
00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:15,750
Are there any questions?

459
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120
» Thank you so much.

460
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,240
>> I wish we had everything.

461
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,679
Thank you.

462
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:27,919
>> We'll do um we'll skip into HR and that

463
00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:31,919
is on page 21

464
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:34,640
please.

465
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:42,710
Page 2130

466
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from 450

467
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hours 4,614.

468
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
» Just want to give us a little summary.

469
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Anything that

470
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,519
highlight anything significant?

471
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,440
>> Um there is not a big increase in salary

472
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200
as well. I mean my my budget sorry

473
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,360
um we have the two CSA full-time

474
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,120
employees

475
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
salary increases are based on that um

476
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,399
management ones the HR administrator

477
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:23,760
action officer are at the 3% one that is

478
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,039
higher as a manager

479
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,679
but that employees salary in line with

480
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other same level management

481
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Salaries similarities

482
00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:41,750
longevity

483
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,750
receiving that $1,000 each

484
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:53,750
part.

485
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,039
As far as expenses,

486
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,559
they're pretty much either the same or

487
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,159
lower.

488
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:12,869
last

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part.

490
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,839
>> Yes.

491
00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:17,280
>> Any question?

492
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,240
>> I mean, I'm sorry. Go ahead, please.

493
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,879
>> So, in terms of the salaries of those

494
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:24,399
increases, if they're percentage of

495
00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:28,230
increase on salaries,

496
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:32,560
» the salaries specifically

497
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,079
So there's certain positions within

498
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:38,720
there that are CCA that are being so

499
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:42,639
shown from 25 to 26. These 25 numbers

500
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,440
are from the 24 budget.

501
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,720
So the increase in 2025

502
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,639
this doesn't reflect the increase they

503
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,599
receive in 2025 plus increase they're

504
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:59,030
receiving6.

505
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:07,670
Any

506
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,800
other questions? Go ahead, please. So,

507
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,640
make sure I'm reading this. Where are

508
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,470
they?

509
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,119
So, uh, A1430, our

510
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,520
anti-racism training,

511
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,960
$15,000. I think that's gone. Can we use

512
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,760
that in 2025? We haven't used that

513
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,599
in budget either 23 or 24 that 24 either

514
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,240
25 we haven't used any I don't believe

515
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,520
um but we do have other options uh the

516
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,599
insurance company um we have something

517
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,359
called Grisk

518
00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:51,359
uh and there's plenty of models on there

519
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,920
we actually had discussion the firmament

520
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,400
action officer the last couple days and

521
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,240
they're going to help us

522
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,800
implement some of these modules

523
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:07,030
I believe there's

524
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:12,880
numerous modules that seem to utilize

525
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,920
so but we haven't utilized those up

526
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,880
until this point

527
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,800
>> those modules

528
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,800
>> no we're going to be in a month or two

529
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,400
>> are social.

530
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,920
>> Uh yes, they are wonderful if we do ask

531
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
for certain departments who they can be

532
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,480
in person.

533
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,359
>> I guess my question is why we never had

534
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:41,599
the training

535
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:45,920
was budgeted and and clearly a need was

536
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,359
there. That's why it's put in there. Is

537
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,280
there a reason that we never implemented

538
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400
the training?

539
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,880
>> Go ahead.

540
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,880
>> We tried to put training in place.

541
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,040
offered to it. It's the city council

542
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,240
that hasn't been able to

543
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,280
do the training and the timing.

544
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,880
>> Well, the city council would never

545
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560
specifically say we'd like to do the

546
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,839
training and could you recommend

547
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:11,359
somebody and if it's in the budget for

548
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:13,520
the human resources, then I would think

549
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,119
that it would be under the human

550
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,720
resources to pull that train together.

551
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,760
There's no objection from the city

552
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,640
council because we weren't asked.

553
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
>> The record will reflect a different

554
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,320
process.

555
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,230
to bring us here today.

556
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,119
» And I I don't um step back and say that

557
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,440
we clearly something has happened more

558
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,119
recent most recently that we it's not

559
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,480
something training that we need to take

560
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,720
out and it really needs to be I know

561
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,119
there was one training I attended it by

562
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,560
insurance companies um and I think that

563
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520
it need more and um again based on our

564
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359
recent occurrence I don't think it's

565
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:52,560
something that we write out of the

566
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,839
budget something we need to make sure

567
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:58,480
that we implement and fairly um virtual

568
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800
because that just means a person can

569
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
give a screen but you can make

570
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,750
interaction.

571
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Are there any other question

572
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,440
for

573
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,240
seeing none? Thank you so much. The rest

574
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:25,510
of the evening

575
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:33,589
we're going to move into

576
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:46,069
the rest of the evenings.

577
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:55,589
Just a quick overview,

578
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:57,920
949,500

579
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:04,790
28,000 central.

580
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,680
Good evening, council members, mayor.

581
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,599
Uh

582
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,640
budget has

583
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,359
requests um

584
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:18,720
corporation council salary, a deputy

585
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,680
full-time deputy corporation council and

586
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,320
full-time assistant corporation council

587
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,760
as well as one part-time assistant

588
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,920
corporation council. So rather than have

589
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,720
multiple part-time assistant corporation

590
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,720
council. We've switched to a model of

591
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:41,520
having three full-time attorneys and one

592
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,599
part-time attorney.

593
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,960
In terms of the office staff, um the

594
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,040
records access officer

595
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,240
uh position remains the code enforcement

596
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,359
specialist line has been replaced with a

597
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:02,160
paralleal to line. Um confidential

598
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,760
secretary

599
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,400
received an increase of about 3%

600
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,119
and there's an IPS3

601
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,400
would receive an increase for the

602
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,240
contract.

603
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,960
In terms of the rest of the budget, we

604
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,880
have postage.

605
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,720
We've budgeted a little more for that

606
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,800
this coming year. There's a lot of

607
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
postage because of the foreclosure

608
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,670
mailing that we have to do.

609
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Administration expenses, advertising,

610
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,440
fees for services. There's no budget for

611
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,240
travel conferences.

612
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:44,240
>> $85,000 for outside legal counsel,

613
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,240
$40,000 for litigation costs and

614
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,079
expenses, 2500 for supplies,

615
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,160
maintenance agreements, and then there's

616
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,680
zero for tuition and reimbursement.

617
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,599
And um that is our relatively simple

618
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,440
budget question. to answer any questions

619
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,240
we council have.

620
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,079
>> So, I just want to clarify. So, what

621
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,079
you're saying is that the three

622
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,200
full-time and the one part-time

623
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
um will make up for these various

624
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,440
assistant councils part-time that are on

625
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440
the next

626
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,240
right here.

627
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,160
>> Yeah, you're seeing those because this

628
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,520
reflects um last year and this year. So

629
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,240
yes, the money that would have gone for

630
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,760
part-time attorneys is now going for

631
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,440
full-time salaries.

632
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,030
>> I think that's that's

633
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,790
just

634
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,680
» uh we currently

635
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,589
transition.

636
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,640
Go ahead.

637
00:41:52,640 --> 00:42:19,190
your state on the council.

638
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,910
» 4402.

639
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,510
440. Yes.

640
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:41,750
» And this as of September 30th, 2025.

641
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,520
» Are there any other question for

642
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,270
cooperation?

643
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,670
See none. Thank you so much.

644
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,280
Okay, we will back and then we'll go

645
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:05,910
into finance and we'll go through.

646
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,069
» Sorry.

647
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:20,550
So, let's do

648
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,480
page

649
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480
1974

650
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,599
and 481.

651
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,400
>> I'm sorry. What page is it?

652
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:28,880
>> Thank you.

653
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,790
>> At the bottom

654
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,319
25 26 it's a 4.5% increase from 356,000

655
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,960
approximately 350,000

656
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,720
that had approximately $16,650

657
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,119
difference.

658
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,760
So judgments and claims has been

659
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,079
increased to 300,000.

660
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,160
Certiary actions has been decreased to

661
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,000
50,000.

662
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Um reducing the total budget of judgment

663
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,950
claims%.

664
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,079
» Go ahead please.

665
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,079
>> Um yes could based on that we get we um

666
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,640
I'd like to know how we be reduced

667
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:18,470
made.

668
00:44:18,480 --> 00:45:08,230
What is our actual date on those?

669
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:15,349
1930.

670
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,680
» Thank you. Turkey 482 or 481.

671
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,829
>> 481.

672
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:24,960
We haven't refunded.

673
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,800
>> We haven't had any funds this year that

674
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,599
I can think of. So

675
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,960
at this time it would be zero.

676
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:40,069
>> I thought we done something.

677
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:42,319
» I thought we done at least one

678
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:43,920
>> one Broadway tower.

679
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,680
>> No, one peter refund.

680
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,280
>> Yeah. The only I think of is one

681
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,240
Broadway Tower which um is currently

682
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,040
adjourned. Uh and so nothing has been

683
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,720
paid out and nothing has been settled on

684
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:06,790
that place.

685
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,119
» Go ahead.

686
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,359
>> Yeah. So back just a little bit. So how

687
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:13,440
long have we been fully staffed?

688
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,240
>> Um for about a month.

689
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,200
>> Oh my good. I mean, is there a reason

690
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,760
why we're spending so much money on

691
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,000
outside legal counsel? Do you feel like

692
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,440
being that you're fully staffed now,

693
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,760
we'll be able to

694
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,760
>> It may look like a lot, but it's it's

695
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,960
just not. There's a lot of

696
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,480
specialized litigation that is required

697
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,800
that takes a tremendous amount of time.

698
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,640
If you wanted to replace that line,

699
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,240
you'd have to put

700
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,400
>> probably at least, excuse me, two

701
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,400
full-time

702
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,480
>> you know, very specialized attorneys to

703
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,160
replace that because we use outside

704
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,160
counsel to um in specialized areas to

705
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,760
deal with certain um special issues that

706
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,400
come up,

707
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040
>> right? So uh although it looks like a

708
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,119
lot of lawyers charge a lot of money

709
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,839
certainly uh and there are legal issues

710
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:08,880
that come up that it's more efficient to

711
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,280
uh hire outside

712
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,280
>> right cuz I can imagine like if it's

713
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
something specialized by the time we

714
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,680
have somebody to do all the research but

715
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,440
it's better more efficient to do it that

716
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,760
way.

717
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,160
>> Exactly.

718
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,520
>> So do you think that based on our um but

719
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,280
being fully staffed now do you don't

720
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,800
expect to see that number go down at

721
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200
all?

722
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,480
No, I mean we

723
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,680
the office. So we we had last year

724
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,280
multiple part-time attorneys.

725
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,920
>> Mhm.

726
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,520
>> So now instead of having multiple

727
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,119
part-time attorneys, we still have one

728
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,720
part-time attorney, but we have it. It's

729
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,560
basically a shift of the time. So

730
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,560
instead of using partnering part-time

731
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,720
attorney a time, we're using full-time

732
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,680
attorney time.

733
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,000
>> Yeah.

734
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,200
>> In order to keep the budget balanced.

735
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,599
from last year.

736
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:00,960
>> Okay. So, you don't really see any

737
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,079
really Okay. Okay. So, it's not

738
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,640
necessarily going to impact the budget.

739
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400
It's just where the workloads being

740
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,480
concentrated now versus it was kind of

741
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,480
split up among multiple people.

742
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:12,800
>> Yeah.

743
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,160
>> But, but so it's not a matter of

744
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,720
capacity then. No, I mean it may go down

745
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,839
slightly, but it depends on how many

746
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:21,920
lawsuits the city winds up in that are

747
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,559
not covered by insurance. Um, and how

748
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:27,680
many specialized legal issues come up.

749
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,400
Um, maybe we won't have any lawsuits

750
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,599
anymore and then

751
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:38,000
>> then we we could get that number down.

752
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,200
>> Good way to start with that and start

753
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,000
some of these trainings maybe.

754
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,079
>> Good way to start. Mr. Chairman and the

755
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:48,880
collective bar

756
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,559
expired

757
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,119
at the beginning of this year through

758
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,480
negotiations were still fairly far apart

759
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,800
going into mediation and there's a good

760
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
chance that that contract will go into

761
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,000
binding our treasure. Our agreement with

762
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,559
the county with the sales tax is they

763
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,960
provide counsel to us for labor

764
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,960
negotiations up to but not including

765
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,200
mining arbitration. That would be

766
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,839
expensive and this budget reflects that

767
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:21,359
and

768
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:24,079
just the reality of what we're dealing

769
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:25,440
>> in terms of outside.

770
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,190
>> Correct.

771
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,280
» Go ahead please. Just expanding on your

772
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,280
definition of specialized skill sets. Um

773
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,880
does that reflect skill sets not

774
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,319
currently captured or is that a general

775
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:38,800
term addressing another category all

776
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,319
itself?

777
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:45,280
>> Um I mean it can it means specialized uh

778
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,160
council. So like what I meant by that

779
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,880
statement is like for example we are in

780
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,880
extended litigation with another

781
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,240
municipality over um

782
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,040
is it sewer or water?

783
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,960
there are things that come up that like

784
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,440
for example we needed

785
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,559
an attorney to handle a very specialized

786
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,800
assessment issue

787
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,520
um that

788
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,280
you know that we hired a law firm with

789
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,119
an attorney that has handled those kinds

790
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,160
of cases in the past like normally we

791
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,720
handle taxerts in house this is a taxert

792
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:24,400
that the city had to bring itself

793
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,040
against another municipality so there

794
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,119
are just things that come up There's

795
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,960
arbitration, there's contract

796
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,880
negotiations with unions. Um trying to

797
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,839
think of what else

798
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:40,480
but there's various issues that come up

799
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,880
that are dealt with from day to day and

800
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,520
that's the reality of of

801
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,430
the dayto day.

802
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,040
» Any other question for corporation?

803
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Seeing none, I think this one. Thank

804
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
you.

805
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,599
All right.

806
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,440
So, we'll back up and go back and go

807
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,280
into finance

808
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,119
and commission of finance. Can you walk

809
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,440
us through everything from finance has

810
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,960
been page 14?

811
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,480
We'll work our way through all the

812
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,400
finance

813
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:31,030
categories.

814
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,920
Finance

815
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,079
page 14

816
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,839
the finance decreased by 15.67% 67% from

817
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:44,069
497,7197

818
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,720
that's approximately $78,000

819
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:53,589
increase

820
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,839
also the deputy commissioner district's

821
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:59,750
currently vacant

822
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,520
within that order for lines are status

823
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:10,710
quo this covers

824
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:15,040
audit or any fees associated.

825
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,640
We have our bond council

826
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,400
from the administrative expenses and

827
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,960
fees for services lines.

828
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,040
We have travel for conference lines

829
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,960
still in the budget

830
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,079
$20,000 for inservice training,

831
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:37,109
$6,000 for supplies.

832
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,359
already had a question finance

833
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:40,319
administration.

834
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:42,079
>> Yeah. What's uh can you tell a little

835
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:47,280
bit about uh the 136 the stipen

836
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,359
>> sorry the 36,000?

837
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:50,400
>> Yeah. What's that?

838
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,599
>> That is uh for my uh the commissioner

839
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:58,160
and the deputy commissioner for afterour

840
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:07,030
meetings um has been budgeting that

841
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,079
Go ahead, please.

842
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,599
>> Um,

843
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,000
hi. Um, the assist the open position of

844
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,440
the deputy commissioner, do you think

845
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,640
that you will be um, you know, trying to

846
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,760
fill that or?

847
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,599
>> Yes, we went through an extensive

848
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,240
process. Uh, unfortunately, you didn't

849
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:26,319
find candidate position. Um we'll

850
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:36,230
probably open up uh 2026

851
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,920
finance department.

852
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,680
>> Thank you.

853
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,750
>> Go ahead please.

854
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,319
» It's it's multiple uh things but uh the

855
00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:48,720
majority is it audit services that we

856
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:53,200
have an annual basis. uh audit firm

857
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,920
comes in at the end of the year usually

858
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,640
in December they do a soft audit and

859
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,000
then they come in March

860
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800
for two weeks.

861
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,640
So I know that our fire station is still

862
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,829
working on some

863
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:19,270
department.

864
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,960
» And what's our year to date on the

865
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,040
stipen?

866
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:35,589
>> Um it's less than 3,000. Uh,

867
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:36,960
» are there any questions? Financial

868
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,880
administration.

869
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Seeing none, I'll move on to accounts on

870
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:48,390
dispersement page 15.

871
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,760
The council dispersement 1315

872
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
increased by 11%

873
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,800
51,14 to 39640 approximated 30,000

874
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200
entries all positions are filled within

875
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,230
this department

876
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,160
raises

877
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,680
union

878
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,950
as well as the management increase

879
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,280
the 100 lines and Under lines are again

880
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,359
basically status quo. We did nitpick

881
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:22,640
some of the lines and reduce

882
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,589
accordingly.

883
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,760
Any questions?

884
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,720
>> Go ahead please.

885
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,000
>> Thank you. Which ones were which um job

886
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,160
items were contractual?

887
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,559
>> Um we had involved the cabinet the

888
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,559
senior audit a clerk and the mail and

889
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,559
accounts clerk.

890
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:48,160
>> Okay. Just the two of them,

891
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,880
>> right?

892
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,720
>> I'm sorry. What was the first one?

893
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:51,920
>> The accounting.

894
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,799
>> Oh, the

895
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:59,270
>> senior life and counseling.

896
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,319
» Go ahead, please.

897
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:03,280
>> So, the accountant salary

898
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,319
is right. It's increase of over $1,000.

899
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:08,079
You said that was contractual.

900
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:11,680
>> Uh, yes. So, it was contractual. Also,

901
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,079
they received an increased step to to

902
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,559
all the work they provide, especially

903
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,520
Since we are finishing deputy

904
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:32,230
commissioner soc

905
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,720
» and oh yeah the whole so the $10,000

906
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,720
raise for the accounting supervisor and

907
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:44,630
$11,000 raise for the accountants.

908
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,880
Was

909
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,040
the male and account clerk an ARPA

910
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,319
position before?

911
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:51,920
>> I mean, did we pay for it last year out

912
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,880
of ARPA?

913
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,799
>> Okay. So, I was just concerned. I kind

914
00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:59,359
of thought it was, but um just was

915
00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:09,190
wondering about that. Thank you.

916
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,280
» More sense

917
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,670
increase the position will be eventually

918
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,630
still that position still

919
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,680
» position for the three and understand

920
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,280
the justification now definitely with

921
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,599
not having fully staff departments

922
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:33,040
having exceptional team members that are

923
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,480
still in place that do the work is

924
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,000
definitely a rarity so I appreciate

925
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,319
those individuals accepting a challenge

926
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:39,839
but sincerely the expectation it won't

927
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:41,839
be too fill it once that happens that

928
00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:44,000
work

929
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,160
with them or should not.

930
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,400
>> Um I mean in my opinion for this

931
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,520
specific individual uh this individual

932
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,799
the city probably 27 plus years now has

933
00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:57,680
a lot of knowledge

934
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,599
and

935
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:02,400
so they're a huge asset to the team. Uh

936
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,079
and this is also my department head

937
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,720
to look at for example development and

938
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,990
assessment.

939
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,839
Um there hasn't been a junior

940
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:18,079
accountant. Are they looking to put

941
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:19,280
someone in that position?

942
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,240
>> No, not at this time.

943
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Accountant previously the junior

944
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,400
accountant has increased their

945
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,680
responsibilities.

946
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,030
>> Thank you.

947
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,839
» You had a question.

948
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:34,160
>> So right

949
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,720
now there's a hiring increase and so

950
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,960
would that impact you trying to hire

951
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,319
people for these positions

952
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,720
>> or the deputy commissioner.

953
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,440
>> Currently, we're not looking at this

954
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,880
group.

955
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,319
>> Not intended to do it until we go

956
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:55,589
through the budget first.

957
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,680
» Any other questions?

958
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,680
We'll move to page 29

959
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:09,750
insurance.

960
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,079
And please if you have question

961
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,880
I'm taking notes so please call me out.

962
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,480
I would I'm trying to keep up with the

963
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,260
soon

964
00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:25,990
[Music]

965
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,359
insurance 10.7

966
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:32,079
insurance by 6% from 1.455

967
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:37,520
553 of 42,0002

968
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,920
just in comparison for 25 um increase by

969
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:49,510
11% from 1.3 to 14.

970
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,960
» Are there any questions regarding the

971
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,400
unallocated insurance?

972
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,559
Seeing none, we'll move to the next page

973
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:59,200
on the top of page 30. Undistributed

974
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,520
item expense other miscellaneous

975
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:07,910
undistributed expense.

976
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,760
The uned

977
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,440
expense of the display 1989.

978
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Um budget

979
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,200
removed the senior center from the

980
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,079
budget currently. Um the total energy

981
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,280
expenses increased by 19.15% from

982
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,359
355,000 to 423,68,000

983
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:31,200
increase.

984
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,760
I believe there was a question about

985
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,359
contingency that was answered

986
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:44,470
that

987
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,150
sorry

988
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,119
for questions about funds and majority

989
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:56,480
of that is for emergency demolitions

990
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,640
for seeing emergencies throughout the

991
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,829
year.

992
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:11,190
Are there any questions?

993
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,349
» I'm sorry.

994
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:20,789
» Yeah, it's good for you to take on that.

995
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:22,640
» Maybe just tell us the page too on that

996
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:33,510
one.

997
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:47,030
is currently at $282,58.

998
01:01:47,040 --> 01:02:00,230
» Any additional questions?

999
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,240
See now

1000
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,960
page

1001
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,760
63

1002
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:17,270
employee employee benefits

1003
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,400
» page 63.

1004
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,720
>> Yes.

1005
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:25,510
Bottom section

1006
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,200
» benefits

1007
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,510
1910 through 89896

1008
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,400
the employ 8.72% 39

1009
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,079
6 million to 43 million increase

1010
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,240
the retirement figures which is based

1011
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,640
off the state's projections and our

1012
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,870
health

1013
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,079
Um the comparison the 25 total benefits

1014
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:59,349
increase about 8.07%.

1015
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:02,799
» Are there any questions?

1016
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:07,839
>> Yes. Um under 89 8989

1017
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:11,280
840 is testing. It went from 10,000 down

1018
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,920
to 6,000.

1019
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,160
And is it

1020
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440
things that we have using it.

1021
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,960
So if you look at 23 24

1022
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,960
6,000 for 23,000 for

1023
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,440
Um, I believe that was in line with

1024
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:48,870
those figures for 25.

1025
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Commission for the record. So these

1026
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,480
increases are driven because of the

1027
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,270
increase in market risk.

1028
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,760
» There's multiple factors

1029
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:11,430
medical

1030
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,319
in the beginning or the year. Um so it's

1031
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:36,069
the lower part.

1032
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:37,760
» Do you do you have the performance in

1033
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,799
place for these?

1034
01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:42,640
Do you have to perform an invoice for

1035
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720
these inputs or

1036
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,920
>> so currently

1037
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,599
>> just

1038
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,720
>> yeah we do have estimates for these um

1039
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,240
currently I believe we're looking

1040
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,559
between um 18 million approximately a

1041
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:01,440
little over 18 million um or for 2025 uh

1042
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,599
but we taking proactive steps to reduce

1043
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,640
these costs so uh we felt uh pretty

1044
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,160
confident uh we have a $17 million for

1045
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,630
2026.

1046
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,880
» Are there any question of the benefit?

1047
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,680
Go ahead, please.

1048
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,599
>> So, you said it's like an 8% increase

1049
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,640
overall in our in the benefits expense.

1050
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,839
Um, yeah, that seems pretty low. I mean,

1051
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:27,520
I would have expected it to be higher

1052
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,839
with health insurance and all, but good

1053
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:32,480
job in terms proactive steps to reduce

1054
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,200
those costs, different formularies.

1055
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,910
>> Um,

1056
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,480
really good at working with our own

1057
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,240
scientists.

1058
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,200
>> Great. Thank you.

1059
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,359
>> Any other questions?

1060
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:50,160
>> Go ahead, please.

1061
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,720
>> Thank you. The human standalone PO is

1062
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,480
just that no one participates in that

1063
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,270
any longer. A 9060.

1064
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,280
» A 9060.

1065
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,750
You may understand the comp

1066
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,799
that is um we don't use that anymore.

1067
01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:11,280
That is now Medicare Advantage plan.

1068
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,960
>> Medicare advantage. Okay.

1069
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,880
>> And what line is Medicare Advantage?

1070
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,750
>> The one right above

1071
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,920
» or USA Care Ps.

1072
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,640
>> Okay.

1073
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,589
>> USA.

1074
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:33,910
Yeah. Okay.

1075
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,920
Are there any other question for the

1076
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,400
benefit section?

1077
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,599
See now we'll move into that service

1078
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,520
page

1079
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,039
65

1080
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:53,270
bottom section.

1081
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,520
So the 2026 total debt service by 6.79%

1082
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,870
approximately

1083
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:08,950
to respond here.

1084
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:18,549
» Any specific questions?

1085
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,960
» Any question?

1086
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,760
>> So our in the once 9785700

1087
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:30,319
our increase our interest doubled

1088
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:32,880
It depend. Yes. It depends on how much

1089
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,839
we borrow. So for I think last year we

1090
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:40,559
borrowed quite a bit here too. Um and

1091
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:44,319
we're doing pretty solidation

1092
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:49,039
notes. Uh we got rates for 125 capital.

1093
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:54,240
Uh one rate was 30%.

1094
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,720
Uh over that same period the majority of

1095
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:03,109
the rates were only 4%.

1096
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:05,119
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to give a

1097
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:07,839
breakdown of what

1098
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:09,520
the

1099
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,710
interest.

1100
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,070
» Yeah, the capital.

1101
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,920
» What line items I can ask you? I just

1102
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,470
want to

1103
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:37,590
» 700. Yes. Got

1104
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,080
a question regarding this?

1105
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,000
Seeing none, I think we have complete

1106
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,239
our finance um categories.

1107
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:48,239
Mr. Chair, um commissioner, I'm missing

1108
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,520
any I don't think so.

1109
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,040
>> Am I missing any of your

1110
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,799
categories?

1111
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:59,359
>> I think After all,

1112
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:03,349
um,

1113
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:13,110
if you want to get the veteran service,

1114
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:27,030
» let's let's go back one more time.

1115
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,520
Yeah. Can you tell us the pages?

1116
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:51,430
>> Page number programs on page 55.

1117
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:55,360
So we reduced that to zero. Um one of

1118
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,719
the questions from council um indicated

1119
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:02,239
there's other types of funing out there.

1120
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:03,920
Our director of development indicated

1121
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,960
there's possible CD funding that could

1122
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,280
source this

1123
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,070
coverage

1124
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,709
of it.

1125
01:10:18,719 --> 01:10:21,280
Can can the council get a copy of those

1126
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,120
uh documents to show that there is

1127
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,270
funding available?

1128
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,679
» She's working up some of the things so

1129
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:31,280
that

1130
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,800
I don't know if she can give you an

1131
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:40,149
exact number

1132
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,080
» but essentially designating another

1133
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,080
funding stream takes away from other

1134
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,840
efforts that

1135
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,560
floor. I just feel it's more of a

1136
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,830
commenting

1137
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,400
taper. They send a very negative message

1138
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,679
not singularity for our youth also to

1139
01:10:57,679 --> 01:11:00,239
just investment in their continued

1140
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:11,990
involvement across the city.

1141
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,800
So,

1142
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,800
I would just again, you know, this has

1143
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,960
always been a area where I've been really strong on

1144
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,560
and making sure that we did this. And I

1145
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,480
think that we need to consider the fact

1146
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,159
that,

1147
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:29,040
you know, there's money to be saved um

1148
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,840
in other areas and we save on expenses

1149
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,560
when youth are proactively engaged in

1150
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,880
pro-social activities as well as, you

1151
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,880
know, the circulation of the money um

1152
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,640
that we're spending staying um within

1153
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,040
our local economy. Um, I just think that

1154
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,360
that's something that we we need to uh

1155
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,159
strongly consider and for it to be kind

1156
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:54,550
of completely xed out and not um,

1157
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400
you know, just completely done away with

1158
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,760
I think is uh,

1159
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,640
not only glaring a glaring mistake, but

1160
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:08,000
it it really undermines what we've been

1161
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,960
expressing our values to be as a city

1162
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,159
here. are just that's pretty

1163
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:17,830
disappointing.

1164
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,440
» Any other questions? Go ahead.

1165
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,760
>> Yeah, I I also u would like to see the

1166
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,480
youth employment uh line back in even if

1167
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:27,600
it was at a a different rate. Um we had

1168
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,159
a really successful youth employment uh

1169
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:33,600
program this summer hiring uh 42

1170
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,159
youth uh that worked in our parks and

1171
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:39,120
really it's the labor but also it's

1172
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,120
really the the career skills the

1173
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,480
mentoring of our uh of their supervisor

1174
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,880
um it was really a valuable resource but

1175
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,280
I do think that you know as we work

1176
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,880
through the rest of the budget and we

1177
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,560
come to the end and we have to then

1178
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,440
start to negotiate around um all of

1179
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,760
these lines where there's been changes

1180
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,640
that we all um you know feel strongly

1181
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,400
about that. I do hope that we are able

1182
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,320
to get back that funding um and I guess

1183
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,560
the discussions will play that out as we

1184
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,400
move into that segment of our budget

1185
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,590
negotiations.

1186
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,239
» Any other question? I really agree it's a very important line. Um looking

1187
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:20,080
at some of the other lines where we're

1188
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,560
doing a lot of prevention um uh or

1189
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,239
actually it's not prevention they say

1190
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:27,840
it's prevention but it's like after

1191
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,600
we're doing treatment. So this is like

1192
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,400
preventive measure in terms of our youth

1193
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,800
and our investment in them. So I would

1194
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,719
have to support that as well that we

1195
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:38,640
should definitely look at putting

1196
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,560
something back in the budget especially

1197
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,120
since Mr. has indicated that Miss Carver

1198
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,640
is going to look at something that is

1199
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,080
lesser amount. So, we should definitely

1200
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,040
make sure that we I would ask that we

1201
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,280
funded at that amount minimally at the

1202
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,669
amount that we did last year.

1203
01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:00,239
» And I also think that knowing that

1204
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,320
there's

1205
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,560
possible funding available is different

1206
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,679
than knowing that there's funding that

1207
01:14:07,679 --> 01:14:09,600
we'll be able to access. I think that we

1208
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,440
need to make a distinction of that when

1209
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,719
we're clear distinction around that

1210
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:16,550
while we're having this conversation

1211
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,480
because there's funding that might be

1212
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:21,520
out there um isn't the same as making

1213
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,280
sure that there's funding there. And I

1214
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,920
almost see, you know, I'm

1215
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,320
half cynically hoping that this was kind

1216
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,719
of like we'll cut this out completely

1217
01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:36,320
and then when uh

1218
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,400
Demani starts to say what are we doing

1219
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,000
then we'll give them a little bit like

1220
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,960
I'm I'm hoping that that was because I I

1221
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,840
can't see a budget a serious budget

1222
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,000
where we are completely considering

1223
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,880
taking out our youth employment and you

1224
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,719
serve or which I would like to refer to

1225
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:56,080
the youth services line. I think that would be

1226
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,640
truly irresponsible.

1227
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,040
>> I mean last year we had a passionate

1228
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,880
discussion about this money. I think all

1229
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,880
council member were in support of uh

1230
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,400
funding this. I think uh we settle at

1231
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,480
150,000 and then we did eventually did

1232
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:12,800
an amendment sort of house funding for

1233
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,719
funding to reallocate $18,000.

1234
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:19,040
Would it would it be possible for you to

1235
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:32,390
find out what is available against that amended allocation?

1236
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,679
» And where are we at the year to date

1237
01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:39,510
with that now?

1238
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,520
» I think this packet is actually all year

1239
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,679
to dates if you wanted to look it up.

1240
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:56,550
>> Yeah, look it up. Come

1241
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:15,750
on.

1242
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,000
We use follow

1243
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,310
right now.

1244
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,590
» I am

1245
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,110
» here

1246
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,600
to 89289.

1247
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,360
So, and if you remember last year's

1248
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,480
conversation, I was trying to

1249
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:40,000
strongly advocate for us to increase

1250
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,360
that line because of the great need. So,

1251
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,800
the fact that we exceeded that line

1252
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,360
uh and now we're

1253
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,960
considering completely removing it.

1254
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,440
Again, I just hope that that's more of a

1255
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:55,120
measure of negotiation than it is

1256
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,440
something that's rooted in a reality for

1257
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:59,120
us.

1258
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,560
>> Mr. advance.

1259
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,320
>> Yeah, I think also we do need to enter

1260
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,600
into discussions with the school

1261
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,280
district around support for this as

1262
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,880
well. As a matter of fact, I think that

1263
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,199
our parks director has initiated some of

1264
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:12,480
those discussions. Um the program was

1265
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:13,920
very successful. I think the school

1266
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,679
district was very supportive of it as

1267
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:19,120
well. Um and the you know the youth

1268
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,040
really it was just a very valuable

1269
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,480
experience. I think we're going to need

1270
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,880
to do what we you know to to try to to

1271
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,159
try to make the number. I will also say

1272
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,640
um you know 42 students. It was a lot of

1273
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,520
supervision uh that was required by one

1274
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,480
individual. Um and I think that person

1275
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,040
enjoyed it. Um but um you know we have

1276
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,120
to take that into consideration as well.

1277
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,880
Um in terms of the supervision because

1278
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,719
we want to make sure that the students

1279
01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:46,880
are getting you know a really valuable

1280
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,800
experience as well.

1281
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,880
>> You mentioned I think I missed regarding

1282
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,719
the $108,000.

1283
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:54,800
Did you say that um an update was

1284
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,679
submitted or it's been worked on in

1285
01:17:57,679 --> 01:17:59,040
terms of how many money was spent

1286
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,760
against that reallocation?

1287
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:06,159
>> Yes, for the 180k funding.

1288
01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:08,000
>> Can you can you please uh look into that

1289
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,800
and provide us with the

1290
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,189
>> the available funding?

1291
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:17,280
Go ahead, please. uh to Miss Patrick's

1292
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,159
point around the super vision aspect

1293
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,840
originally um in the very beginning of

1294
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,679
this uh project we had the county on as

1295
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:29,520
a partner because they already kind of

1296
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,440
had the infrastructure to do some of

1297
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:34,719
that. They came on um as a partner

1298
01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:36,800
actually I don't believe it cost us

1299
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,880
anything um for them to partner with us.

1300
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,040
I'm not exactly sure why we moved away

1301
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,199
from that model, but that might be one

1302
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:47,280
way to if if we can kind of take, you

1303
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,000
know, delve out exactly how much money

1304
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,840
was

1305
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,360
effort into the whole supervision

1306
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,199
aspect. I'm sure that based on our

1307
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,440
partnerships with the county, we could

1308
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:59,360
they might be interested in revisiting

1309
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,440
that and therefore we can kind of

1310
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:02,560
relieve some of the stress of the

1311
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,640
program there.

1312
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,840
>> Go ahead, please. I I agree with both

1313
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,520
Patrick and Mr. Farley. I mean, as far

1314
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,040
as the school district, I think they

1315
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,719
have a huge um this is a huge asset to

1316
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:16,719
them. We're pulling everyone from the

1317
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:18,560
school district and and the county as

1318
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:23,510
well. So, I think it should be multiple

1319
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,080
you can get to your 300 our 300,000

1320
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:31,199
because we we can't not support our

1321
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:33,360
>> I I think part of the discussion is to

1322
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,360
bring all the agency you know involve uh

1323
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,080
part of this uh effort to support a

1324
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,640
youth employment program. So having a

1325
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,360
county, a school and a city together, it

1326
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,159
will help bring those numbers up. And I

1327
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:49,920
think impossible like you say there is

1328
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,520
support for this line, every member last

1329
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,360
year on into this year.

1330
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,400
>> Last year we didn't.

1331
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:56,800
>> Yes,

1332
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,840
>> we didn't fund the line.

1333
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,640
>> Well, we did fund it 150 plus,

1334
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,560
>> but is it enough? Absolutely not. So we

1335
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,480
did our best. We did our best.

1336
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:14,000
Um, so, um, Mr. You're going to find out

1337
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,679
how much of that $18,000 is left for us.

1338
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:24,390
>> Yes. I'll speak with our director.

1339
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,920
» Okay. Is there any other question

1340
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,679
regarding this line?

1341
01:20:27,679 --> 01:20:31,520
>> Okay. Uh, we'll move down

1342
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:45,189
the very same page.

1343
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:47,199
One of the nothing much here to talk

1344
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:48,719
about

1345
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,760
historical submission are any other

1346
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:59,350
section

1347
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:05,189
mention

1348
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:08,870
» are So,

1349
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,199
» no,

1350
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:15,830
we're just looking

1351
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,400
» page 52 subsection.

1352
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,480
>> I was looking

1353
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,480
trying to recall conversations about

1354
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,159
that

1355
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:27,440
fees for service.

1356
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:30,159
>> We'll have the assessment

1357
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:33,120
assessor here next

1358
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:33,679
>> Wednesday.

1359
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:36,159
>> Next meeting. expensive.

1360
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:38,800
>> Yeah, we'll go through with the assessor

1361
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:43,360
budget and then the board's assessment

1362
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:55,189
page 52 top section.

1363
01:21:55,199 --> 01:22:02,390
» This is straightforward.

1364
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,360
page 52 veterans service.

1365
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,920
>> As you can see, there's no change or

1366
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,840
adjustment

1367
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,280
budgeted for 9,000 this year for 26 and

1368
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:18,070
for the same

1369
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,040
question. Go ahead, please.

1370
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:25,510
What do we rent this from?

1371
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,199
The rental of the boat. What are we

1372
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:31,189
renting?

1373
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:33,360
I don't know if

1374
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,120
>> organization

1375
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,199
places in different buildings if you

1376
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:43,510
offset some cross.

1377
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,030
Any other questions?

1378
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,800
I think this time we complete all the

1379
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,360
finance.

1380
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,950
Yeah.

1381
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:12,870
» Police.

1382
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,679
» Anybody would like to take a break

1383
01:23:15,679 --> 01:23:19,679
water? Okay. We'll then move them to

1384
01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:35,189
we'll move them to the five department.

1385
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:36,719
» Oh,

1386
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,840
please. Um

1387
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:47,590
39 page 39 section.

1388
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,560
Go ahead. Go ahead. Give us a little

1389
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,679
budget by 1.3%

1390
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:59,440
14 million approximately to 13.9 million

1391
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:04,390
that happened in approximately

1392
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,000
28

1393
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,149
negotiations.

1394
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:11,520
» You just want to give us some of what's

1395
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,550
happening.

1396
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,239
ask me to talk about fire department.

1397
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:20,719
>> Uh so I know one of the questions was uh

1398
01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:22,639
any open positions. So I'll address that

1399
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:24,000
real quick here just to get a better

1400
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,840
understanding. Right now we're at 121

1401
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,000
firefighters, but that's not realized.

1402
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,679
That's not boots on the ground. We're at

1403
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:31,360
106

1404
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,280
uh firefighters that are active duty.

1405
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,920
The 15 are in school. 13 are in Hudson

1406
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,760
Valley after medical school and two are

1407
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,719
in uh music of fire academy. So, those

1408
01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:44,880
13 we will not see until next December.

1409
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,040
Okay. Uh, moving forward, we're going to

1410
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,120
have seven known openings by March of

1411
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,360
26, and there's potentially five or six

1412
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,120
more that may be leaving by the end of

1413
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,159
25th. So, while we just hired 15, we're

1414
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:57,440
barely keeping our heads above the

1415
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:00,960
water. Um, so it's currently 99

1416
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,360
call. Uh, other than that, EMS calls are

1417
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,880
up 3.4% at 10,113 to date. Right now

1418
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,760
we're projected about um 13,700 calls.

1419
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,159
Our readiness um operational readiness

1420
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:15,840
has increased. We took delivery of our

1421
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,400
Lucas automated CPR machines. They will

1422
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,639
deliver continuous uninterrupted

1423
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:24,080
efficient CPR. Uh our new EKG monitors

1424
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,760
on last year's capital project will be

1425
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,639
in service by next month. Uh station one

1426
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:30,480
has their generator in service. Uh so

1427
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,000
all station one will be powered with a

1428
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,520
power outage that we're seeing happen

1429
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,840
more often. Uh new generators for

1430
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,159
station three and four should be updated

1431
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:42,400
soon are installed. New HVAC HVAC system

1432
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,239
has been completed. That includes a new

1433
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,560
floor and a new ceiling and duct work.

1434
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,800
Uh so the conditions at station one for

1435
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,280
our most valuable resource or people uh

1436
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,880
has improved. Like I said, they're

1437
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,080
working a tremendous amount of hours. So

1438
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,600
we're starting to see that physical

1439
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,239
toll. Um we're trying to address some of

1440
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,239
that staffing shortage with change in

1441
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:03,280
our civil service language uh for the um

1442
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,639
candidates applying. So good news uh by

1443
01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:08,400
next week the civil service the next

1444
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,000
little step should be announced for

1445
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,040
firefighters and it is on January 10th

1446
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,480
for anybody that wants to be done on

1447
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,400
connect city firefighter. Uh come and

1448
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,320
take a test give us a call we'll help

1449
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,719
you get there. Uh we're going to do that

1450
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:22,800
physical ability test to get on our job.

1451
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,000
How are we going to lower those barriers

1452
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,600
for entry? But that does not mean we're

1453
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,000
going to lower our standards. Right? So

1454
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,840
that physical agility test is going to

1455
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,760
be offered inhouse and we're going to

1456
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,159
open that to the candidates to come work

1457
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:35,679
on the course before they actually take

1458
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:37,440
the test. Hopefully prep them a little

1459
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,360
bit better and get more people to our

1460
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,880
table so we have better options moving

1461
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,080
forward. Um and we'll start to uh talk

1462
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,000
with the second school district once

1463
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,239
again on trying to get the EMT program

1464
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:49,840
off the ground for moving the school

1465
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,760
district. give them a pathway, give our

1466
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,120
students a pathway to emergency services

1467
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,000
like that.

1468
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,800
>> Okay,

1469
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,840
we'll just go through to the department

1470
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,960
by admin.

1471
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:05,679
>> Mhm.

1472
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:06,960
>> Any I don't think there's any

1473
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,159
significant change here because the

1474
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:09,840
budget and the contract is still in

1475
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,639
negotiations. there's no increase and if

1476
01:27:12,639 --> 01:27:15,360
there's any increases contractual for

1477
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,880
the

1478
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,840
invol specialist I want to say yeah

1479
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:24,790
there's some increase there

1480
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,480
» any question regarding the fire

1481
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,679
administration section

1482
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:32,159
>> please

1483
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,960
>> just clarification for u there's an info

1484
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,080
processing specialist for um and it's

1485
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,159
point

1486
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:40,880
25.

1487
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,560
>> Yeah. Well, it's three. It was 0.5 in

1488
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,080
2025 and now it's

1489
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,440
>> 30.

1490
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:49,840
>> Okay.

1491
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,840
>> So, we were supposed to hire uh from one

1492
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,159
of our ladies retiring back in June and

1493
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:56,400
we haven't hired yet hiring threes. Uh

1494
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,880
she anticipated to be retiring first

1495
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,080
part of next year. So, that's a

1496
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,199
reduction in time.

1497
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:08,470
>> Thank you.

1498
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:10,719
Just you mentioned that trying to uh

1499
01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,239
change the language of the civil

1500
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:13,280
service.

1501
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:13,840
>> That's correct.

1502
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,199
>> Tell me a little bit more about that.

1503
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:16,880
>> Uh so we took away the college credit

1504
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,719
hours. Uh we provide them the college

1505
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:20,159
credit hours when they come in between

1506
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:22,320
the academy and Hudson Valley. It also

1507
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,159
opens our options when we hire these big

1508
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:26,080
groups uh hopefully hire these large

1509
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,719
groups that we if we have a college

1510
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:32,639
requirement we have

1511
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:34,159
and they wouldn't be able to handle

1512
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:35,600
maybe if we say I'm just going to pick

1513
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,120
another 20 people they wouldn't have

1514
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:38,719
enough spots for us. So this will allow

1515
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:41,120
us to go to uh different fire academy

1516
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,880
such as the state fire academy at Montto

1517
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,679
Falls maybe Westchester County that's the big change then along with

1518
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:49,360
that physical desk

1519
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,560
>> that sounds so kind of to your point you

1520
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,199
might change the entry threshold but

1521
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:56,960
you're not changing the expectation

1522
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,639
correct or the quality service. That's

1523
01:28:58,639 --> 01:28:59,360
awesome. Thank you.

1524
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,719
>> We're going to invest in our people get

1525
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:02,400
in the door and invest.

1526
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,239
>> That's awesome man. Thank you. Any

1527
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,040
other questions? We'll move on.

1528
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,320
>> Oh, I they could be anywhere in this. Do

1529
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,800
you know how we compare um salary wise

1530
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,400
to other municipalities?

1531
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,480
>> Um I believe we're low especially at the

1532
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,719
starting level. I think it's around 50

1533
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:23,760
something,000 or 49. I don't have the

1534
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,310
data.

1535
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,159
Okay, we'll move into emergency medical

1536
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:45,350
services page 40 bottom section

1537
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,590
» anything you need to highlight there.

1538
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,239
» No, it's pretty standard report from

1539
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:57,110
last year.

1540
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:57,520
Go ahead.

1541
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,560
>> I'm sorry. Big decrease in overtime. You

1542
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,820
just don't count that at some

1543
01:30:02,820 --> 01:30:03,920
[Music]

1544
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,670
8412.

1545
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,520
[Music]

1546
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,320
>> Yeah. So that's um that overtime is for

1547
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,320
continue education is contractual. We

1548
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,760
pay them out for the amount of time that

1549
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,000
they do continue education. Some of the

1550
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,560
details, the EMS details that we uh we

1551
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,080
provide. Um, and then our QAQI

1552
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,920
uh for our quality assurance and our EMS

1553
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,960
calls, they review the PCRs uh once a

1554
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,400
month, the end of the month, every

1555
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,920
month. Um, and then EMS meetings. So, it

1556
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,360
just decreased a little bit just based

1557
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,199
on where the salaries are for that

1558
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:38,880
content. That would be a big fluctuation

1559
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,960
there.

1560
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,840
>> Chief, you want to touch on the 40 46

1561
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,400
8411 46

1562
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:49,280
>> any service training?

1563
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:49,760
>> Yes.

1564
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:54,159
>> Yeah. So, that went up. So that's school for um

1565
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:56,080
the cost of school for 18 positions, but

1566
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,080
those 18 positions are both over the

1567
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,040
hiring for this year through next year

1568
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,159
and then um additional positions for

1569
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:05,760
next year.

1570
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,960
>> Miss Yeah, I'm just trying to for the

1571
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,880
mayor. Um I think we all got the email

1572
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,679
about um there's a bill for the governor

1573
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:17,920
that take EMS out of um being counted

1574
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,400
towards the tax cap. Mayor would have

1575
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,840
any that would I'm not sure the time

1576
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,520
frame in terms of signing that impact

1577
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,639
this budget in terms of tax

1578
01:31:28,639 --> 01:31:31,360
>> the uh governor's office he's not moved

1579
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,120
on it

1580
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,159
so right now I'm assuming that it will

1581
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:40,550
impact on this

1582
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,229
» thanks

1583
01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:47,199
» go ahead chief I know you talked about

1584
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:50,400
the success of the program um kind of

1585
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,159
bring on candidates and giving them the

1586
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:54,239
curriculum and the tools they need to

1587
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:57,600
succeed and qualify for positions. Is

1588
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,719
there a point where you think you will

1589
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:01,280
be right sized? What I mean by that is

1590
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,280
usually catch up just due to the lack of

1591
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,000
I think you highlighted applicants for

1592
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,600
the

1593
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,480
on the testing

1594
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:15,600
what was the uh job placement whatever metric or program they used to

1595
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,600
apply into. I guess my question is is

1596
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,360
there a balance where we'll get to

1597
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,960
having like new replacing the the

1598
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,560
outgoing firefighters because what

1599
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,719
happens similar to the military is you

1600
01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:28,880
open it to increase your applicant pool

1601
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,639
but then as you fill your position you

1602
01:32:30,639 --> 01:32:32,639
can become more stringent. So do you see

1603
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,080
this program as always existing or

1604
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,080
trying to get through kind of the low

1605
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,239
and and higher?

1606
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:39,679
>> So that's a tough question to answer

1607
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:40,960
because I can't predict the future and

1608
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,320
how many people are retiring. is

1609
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,239
definitely becoming a younger job when

1610
01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:45,600
we're seeing a lot of that legacy

1611
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,080
knowledge leave and that experience and

1612
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,800
that concerns me because that translates

1613
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,639
into safety, right? And having that

1614
01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:54,639
experience to realize, you know, how how

1615
01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:56,480
far am I going in this houseire? Am I

1616
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:59,440
getting in too deep? Uh so realistically

1617
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:01,520
maybe yes, you know, we could we could

1618
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,120
tighten down some things, but at the

1619
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,639
same time maybe we're getting better

1620
01:33:04,639 --> 01:33:08,149
candidates.

1621
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:10,800
» Any other questions?

1622
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,639
So now we'll move to the bottom page by

1623
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:27,830
typing A412

1624
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,800
highlights

1625
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,310
>> uh the overtime line the 341212.

1626
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,639
» Yep. 1.475 million. Um, so we were

1627
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:42,960
looking at a little bit more with I know

1628
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,679
we always talk about it. Chief Realing

1629
01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:47,840
best question. The people going out the

1630
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,400
door. Some of that is covered in the

1631
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,800
open salary line. So if we have I'm

1632
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,960
going to say I retire in January. We're

1633
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,880
budgeted for my salary for the whole

1634
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,560
year. So we're saving some money there.

1635
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,120
At that 1.475, we have no room for

1636
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,880
error. Too many people out the door will

1637
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,870
be upside down on this.

1638
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,440
» Questions?

1639
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:12,800
on the firefight section.

1640
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,920
>> Go ahead, please.

1641
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,400
>> Um, under the firefighter academy

1642
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,719
341200.

1643
01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:20,639
So, is that some of the money that's up

1644
01:34:20,639 --> 01:34:22,800
there? I mean, um, school for the 18

1645
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,080
positions because there's nothing

1646
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,600
budgeted on this line.

1647
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:26,960
>> I'm sorry, what?

1648
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,080
>> Which line?

1649
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,320
>> Um, A3412100

1650
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,760
firefighter academy. As here we budgeted

1651
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,280
47,21.

1652
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,719
This year you have zero. Yeah, I think

1653
01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:42,229
she just moved.

1654
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:45,040
» Go ahead. Uh chief, there's always a

1655
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:46,560
point of conversation with people, you

1656
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,080
know, just talking about the I mean, but

1657
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,239
calls that don't necessarily the fire,

1658
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:55,360
but you respond to is there any way to

1659
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,080
differentiate those like calls where you

1660
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,840
do have to send a rig or do have to send

1661
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,520
staff, but they're for identify just who

1662
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,360
are the again

1663
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,719
users and his arrows has identified that

1664
01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:12,000
community as a way to put other

1665
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,239
resources address that ongoing just

1666
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:16,239
drain of our system if that makes sense.

1667
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:17,760
>> Yeah. So there could be a lot of ideas

1668
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,040
like one of them would be community

1669
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,719
parame medicine but it comes at a huge

1670
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:22,639
cost right part of community parame

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01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:24,719
medicine would be put people on for

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01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:27,040
followup then you've been discharged

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01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,159
from the hospital or we've came and we

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01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:32,480
see what your problem is and have you

1675
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:34,400
taken your medication right just to

1676
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:35,600
follow up with that but that comes with

1677
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,920
a huge cost to have more people staffing

1678
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,360
what fire engine you may send a fly cars

1679
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,719
so there's different ways to address

1680
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:45,040
that I know one of the mayor's things is

1681
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,719
how can we reduce some of these calls

1682
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:51,040
and maybe look at dispatch. Uh there's all kinds of ideas getting them

1683
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,040
implemented and better education is

1684
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,560
always a hurdle. So we're definitely

1685
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,000
trying to work on the education

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01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,840
component. When to call 911 91, right? I

1687
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,280
got a small cup. I don't need to call

1688
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,800
911.

1689
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,639
But if I explain, I I don't disagree

1690
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:08,480
with you. I think my only point of

1691
01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:11,280
concern is in your budget there was a

1692
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,880
cut to the public safety foundation

1693
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:14,880
fund. I think my caution is just where

1694
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,880
do you place or how do you incorporate

1695
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,960
that education?

1696
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,000
It's going to be tough but going to be

1697
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,840
probably a lot more word of mouth social

1698
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:33,350
media uh that brought me

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01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,080
ahead please. I do know a few years.

1700
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,239
>> He's taking notes.

1701
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:40,480
>> I do know a few years ago you were

1702
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:42,639
working on something very similar to

1703
01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:46,320
that prototype out

1704
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:51,840
with Chief Marino um to uh um assess the

1705
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,679
situation and give them appointment the

1706
01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:55,360
next day for an urgent care or things

1707
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,840
like that. Is is that something that

1708
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,600
you're talking about that could be

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01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,199
>> still doing that? had recent

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01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:05,440
conversations this week with MVP to look

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01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:08,960
at uh their whole subscriber base in the

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01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,880
city of Skenctity. How do you better

1713
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,199
manage those? How do you direct people

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01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,760
to the appropriate level of service?

1715
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,760
Most people do not need the full suite

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01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,760
of services that are available in an

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01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,679
emergency department. absent trauma,

1718
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:26,719
cardiac event, stroke, most people can

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01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:29,119
go to an urgent care, go to their own

1720
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:32,719
physician, seek some other level of uh

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01:37:32,719 --> 01:37:35,440
care. In the emergency room, you get the

1722
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:38,320
other people in this chief's outline. it

1723
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,520
backs up that facility and sometimes the

1724
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,920
people who really need the higher level

1725
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,360
of care get pushed back while they're

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,480
dealing with people who have lesser

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01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:54,960
medical issues. So we are looking at it

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01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,480
uh

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01:37:56,480 --> 01:38:00,719
assistant chief and uh chief actually

1730
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:04,560
looked recently with the company who has

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01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,800
the ability

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01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,960
talk about is the ability to prevent

1733
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,320
cardiac events from

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01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,280
the data that's derived from a normal

1735
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,040
EKG

1736
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:21,199
really uh life saving and dramatic

1737
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:24,000
change. Is there a way that we could put

1738
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:28,080
that in place in our EMS system working

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01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,760
with

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01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,520
primarily Ellis or also already met the

1741
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,119
regional trauma center so that uh there

1742
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:38,239
are things that we're doing on an

1743
01:38:38,239 --> 01:38:40,480
ongoing basis. How do you improve the

1744
01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:42,800
delivery of service improve the outcomes

1745
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:47,910
and do it the most cost effective ways?

1746
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,159
Um I know that um the fire department,

1747
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:51,280
police department have been really

1748
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,600
successful grants and I can see that

1749
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,000
reflected in your in this budget in

1750
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,239
terms of the equipment lines. Um so I

1751
01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:00,000
just wanted to say I appreciate all the

1752
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,400
work that you and your team, Jennifer in

1753
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,360
particular, uh does uh with the grants

1754
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,679
development and just keep it going. You

1755
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:09,199
guys are really successful with that.

1756
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:12,239
>> Yeah. Thank you. That's nice.

1757
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:16,639
You got a question? See move on to page

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43 prevention arson.

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01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:27,990
Anything you like to highlight there?

1760
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,199
Pretty straightforward.

1761
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:34,320
>> Any question? Seeing none, we'll move to

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final final branding 44.

1763
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,679
I see a couple of new things there.

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343.12.

1765
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,719
Uh that's an overtime line for that

1766
01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:51,040
firefighter mobility test to have our

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01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:58,390
people come in and pract

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01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,760
450. Uh we added in some supplies. We

1769
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,440
have to build that course.

1770
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:07,040
>> I'm sorry. Which one is that? I'm sorry.

1771
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:12,639
Uh the supply line uh 3450 450 supplies

1772
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:13,600
it was 600.

1773
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,600
>> Oh, got it. Okay, thank you. Yep.

1774
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:18,159
>> Go ahead.

1775
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:20,080
>> And there'll be a number of cost savings

1776
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,080
on what line.

1777
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,560
>> Um cost savings for there's there's no

1778
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,719
cost.

1779
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:32,229
>> Oh, okay.

1780
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,159
» I I missed what you said the 10,000 was

1781
01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:35,280
for

1782
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,880
>> um in line 3414 1112. That's overtime.

1783
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,400
That's going to be to pay the

1784
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,320
firefighters to come in and proctor that

1785
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,679
physical agility test and to allow the

1786
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:47,440
candidates access to that course prior

1787
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:48,800
to the testing.

1788
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:53,109
>> Thank you.

1789
01:40:53,119 --> 01:40:55,600
» Any other question?

1790
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,199
Okay, see we'll move Phil

1791
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:05,990
bottom of page 44 into page 45.

1792
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:11,669
Any

1793
01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:13,520
questions?

1794
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,159
Seeing none, we'll move to five retro

1795
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:20,870
bottom of page 45

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01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,239
came to page 46 and we'll conclude the

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01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:30,709
fire department review.

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01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:33,040
» Are there any other questions? Go ahead.

1799
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,360
Yeah. So there's there's like nothing

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01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,760
the whole section there's nothing

1801
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,679
>> I don't know that if it's just gold

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01:41:39,679 --> 01:41:40,800
lines or

1803
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:48,470
>> it's

1804
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:52,950
any other question.

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,560
» So there might be something there might

1806
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,600
be something coming in those lines.

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,040
>> Oh okay.

1808
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,639
>> All right. Seeing none. Thank you so

1809
01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:03,360
much. Thank you for all you're doing.

1810
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:22,550
>> Appreciate

1811
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:34,550
the police department.

1812
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,080
And we are doing them police uh

1813
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:44,790
department starting.

1814
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,679
These are 8:31

1815
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:52,960
coming through 8:30 and also 8:30.

1816
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,440
Overall uh police department decreased

1817
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:02,790
that by 8.6%.

1818
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:14,629
5.6 million,000 increase uh achieve

1819
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:17,600
» summary. Give us a little summary

1820
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:18,719
now.

1821
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:21,760
>> I guess we're going to start off

1822
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,119
this evening.

1823
01:43:23,119 --> 01:43:26,880
Um I talk talk about uh you know what

1824
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,400
we're doing here as police department

1825
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,560
methodology we're using started out by

1826
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,360
saying it's working crime down crime

1827
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,159
down 20.8% 8% compared to this time last

1828
01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:40,320
year. We're also down 3% compared to the

1829
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,040
five year average. That's that's crime,

1830
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,480
which is the crime that we're really

1831
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:46,560
focused on. These numbers are good. We

1832
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,400
should be proud of them.

1833
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,920
But we all know that crime is regional

1834
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,880
cyclical and before we pat ourselves in

1835
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,480
the back too much, we have to realize

1836
01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,400
that hold and Detroit both facing us

1837
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,280
right now with the reductions

1838
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:02,960
just in the way that you know the crime

1839
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:04,719
is going down. You know, our numbers are

1840
01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:07,920
good, those are better. So uh with that

1841
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,199
knowing that cyclical you know we're

1842
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:12,639
very cognizant that we can't take our

1843
01:44:12,639 --> 01:44:15,760
foot off the gas continuously work on

1844
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,520
our methodology. What is that

1845
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,360
methodology? has been safe for the last

1846
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,600
nine years.

1847
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,360
Have a heavy investment in community

1848
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:24,800
building trust engaging the

1849
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,080
neighborhoods. having a public campaign

1850
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,000
of information sharing, asking for

1851
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,760
voluntary compliance on many different

1852
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,560
levels, whether it's obeying the speed

1853
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,760
limit, just being proactive, seeing our

1854
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:44,550
officers

1855
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,080
out there in the public safety

1856
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,800
community, from the school district,

1857
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,280
county jail department, state police. We

1858
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,480
do do great patrols. We have a very good

1859
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,679
uh partnership with ECJS. We a lot of

1860
01:44:57,679 --> 01:44:59,679
programming all the money that comes in

1861
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:03,679
federal task forces, DEA, FBI, ATF, US

1862
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:05,280
Marshals, they all come with funding

1863
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,560
attached to our as state police and the

1864
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,760
sheriff's task force. We we partner with

1865
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,239
many businesses both locally and

1866
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,480
nationally to bring things through our

1867
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:18,400
community. Some of them have financial

1868
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,040
benefits and of course we do have

1869
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:22,639
technology investments that have helped

1870
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:25,600
us do our job. Some of them are some are

1871
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:26,880
costly. I'll talk about that in a

1872
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,360
minute. But we still have challenges.

1873
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,440
that we face right now are

1874
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:34,400
again violent crime. It's regional.

1875
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,960
This has gone down.

1876
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,280
We're seeing a significant reduction in

1877
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,480
gun violence. But it's still happening,

1878
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:45,040
still comes around people come from

1879
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,080
outside the area. Differences here

1880
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,560
because of the regional social problems

1881
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,440
persist persist. Uh we have a rise in

1882
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:56,000
juvenile incidents. Our investment in

1883
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,520
schools has helped us there, but we

1884
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,440
still see it. There's a lot of

1885
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:01,119
aggressive driving. The speed of

1886
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:02,880
reduction has helped that, but still

1887
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,040
happening. We have many nuisance

1888
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:06,639
businesses that are operating. They

1889
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:09,119
continuously pop up.

1890
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:10,880
our

1891
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,040
out of compliance businesses, after hour

1892
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,360
clubs, some gas stations, corner

1893
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,840
strollers, massage parlors,

1894
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,239
and then the reality of this because

1895
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:21,760
everybody at the table has done such a

1896
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,320
great job. We're very vibrant city has a

1897
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,560
lot going on, which means that we have a large draw on our resources. Asking

1898
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,719
for assistance with just maintaining

1899
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:35,119
order was a big draw on our on us.

1900
01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:37,280
Uh back home at the police department,

1901
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,679
uh we do have some facility challenges.

1902
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,600
Our evidence storage is overflowing.

1903
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,840
It's it's expensive to pay our guys to

1904
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,080
stay and encourage that evidence.

1905
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,639
Something that we're going to have to do

1906
01:46:48,639 --> 01:46:50,400
by by just not having any place to put

1907
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,239
it.

1908
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:55,119
We do have HBAC problems at our place.

1909
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:56,639
Um

1910
01:46:56,639 --> 01:46:59,199
as a as a building as a whole, recently

1911
01:46:59,199 --> 01:47:00,960
investments into our real time crime

1912
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,280
center has solved that problem for HBAC,

1913
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,440
which is very good.

1914
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:06,800
On the positive side, our men and

1915
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,639
women's locker rooms are complete. They

1916
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:10,719
look really nice. Anybody else wants to

1917
01:47:10,719 --> 01:47:12,400
come and take a look at them? Welcome to

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01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:13,440
see it.

1919
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,360
>> Our gym was redone thanks to Chief

1920
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,679
Whipple getting a grant from the state.

1921
01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:19,119
Buy some new gym equipment for our

1922
01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:21,199
officers.

1923
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:23,520
Some past projects, but there's looking

1924
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,199
better the other day. Our classroom, our

1925
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:27,440
pistol range, and our break room are all

1926
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:29,679
completed. So, facilities looking pretty

1927
01:47:29,679 --> 01:47:32,960
good. Currently have a table of

1928
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,239
organization of 168 officers,

1929
01:47:36,239 --> 01:47:38,880
five in the five within the academy, two

1930
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,480
officers on long-term military leave. Um

1931
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:44,560
we have multiple children being born. So

1932
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,400
we have a lot of maternity and maternity

1933
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,840
leave uh coming up soon.

1934
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,920
>> A lot of our ancillary jobs, a lot of

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01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,880
jobs we have are assigned to task forces

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01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,440
which are ancillary jobs that support

1937
01:47:57,440 --> 01:47:59,920
our core missions. So we have task force

1938
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:04,080
officers training arm reduction officers

1939
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,639
professional standards just keeping up

1940
01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:11,440
our training and our professionalism.

1941
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:13,679
We do have an ongoing staffing analysis

1942
01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:16,000
that's requested by the state to assess

1943
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,199
our staffing needs. And then of course

1944
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:20,800
everything we do, we have to look at

1945
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,639
accreditation, make sure that we're in

1946
01:48:22,639 --> 01:48:25,199
compliance with accreditation.

1947
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:27,920
We all need every day from the

1948
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,159
technology perspective. It's very

1949
01:48:30,159 --> 01:48:32,080
expensive. We all know that it's going

1950
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,639
to be part of this budget conversation.

1951
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:38,080
Axon body cameras, tasers, virtual

1952
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,560
reality training, electronics feminist

1953
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,440
storage. Um, and by that what I mean is

1954
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:46,800
our interviews and our body camera

1955
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,239
footage. All the video, everything

1956
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:50,639
electronic goes into evidence.com with

1957
01:48:50,639 --> 01:48:52,880
cloud based storage

1958
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,440
incar videos which come with LPR. So

1959
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:57,199
that helps us more than pay for

1960
01:48:57,199 --> 01:49:00,719
themselves and be in New England. Also

1961
01:49:00,719 --> 01:49:04,000
our drones, burnt drones fully funded

1962
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,520
until 2030, the end of 2030.

1963
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,400
This will help us close the gaps needs,

1964
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,159
but we're still working the kinks out.

1965
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:16,229
So we're not going to

1966
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:18,960
a fully funded grant from DCS got

1967
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,520
laptops in all the officers hands. uh

1968
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,840
which now they're using them for enhance

1969
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,920
cyber security and just to help them

1970
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,440
deal with information overload,

1971
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:29,440
technology overload.

1972
01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:32,080
um we become a little bit more efficient

1973
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,080
on the community end. Just a reminder,

1974
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,480
we engage with the school district, many

1975
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,480
community groups such as Coco House C

1976
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:43,920
Center, Y WCA, YW WCA, YMCA, Boys and

1977
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,159
Girls Club, City Mission, neighborhood

1978
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:49,040
associations, business groups, business

1979
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,119
associations.

1980
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:55,669
Um

1981
01:49:55,679 --> 01:49:58,080
and what we've been really aiming to do

1982
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,840
is be responsive to what our community

1983
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:01,920
has been asking us for specifically in

1984
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,840
the last five years. A professional

1985
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,320
trustworthy department and to do that we

1986
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:07,920
focus on training policies and

1987
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,400
procedures engaging with our community.

1988
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,080
We want to be held accountable. That's

1989
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,040
where our cameras come into play and we

1990
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,560
want to be responsible to our community

1991
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,320
needs. That means we have to be properly

1992
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:19,760
staffed. We have to have the resources

1993
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,760
to get the job done. We have to

1994
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,679
continuously educate ourselves to

1995
01:50:23,679 --> 01:50:26,480
changing trends, growing trends, growing

1996
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:42,070
emerging threats in our community.

1997
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,350
» Okay.

1998
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,600
» So, we'll go into

1999
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:52,629
Thank you, Chief. Uh, page 30.

2000
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:57,669
go through the order

2001
01:50:57,679 --> 01:51:00,080
just if you would like to highlight

2002
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,480
anything on the police administration

2003
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:04,239
starting

2004
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:07,040
you can question and then move to the

2005
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:13,350
next um

2006
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,760
go ahead please so chief first of all

2007
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,840
thank you for the overview and also

2008
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,320
thank you um very much for reduction in

2009
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,600
the budget. Uh and I know that was very

2010
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,199
helpful to some of the grants that you

2011
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:26,800
got and thank you for answering the

2012
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,400
email regarding that. Um in terms of

2013
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,199
this particular um the administration

2014
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:36,000
and then the question will go throughout

2015
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,159
are are some of the grants that you've

2016
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:40,719
identified that will be uh paid out in

2017
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:43,920
2020 for budget year 2026 are any of

2018
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,119
them helping to offset

2019
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:52,400
any salaries or overtime at all?

2020
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:56,560
>> Brand is grant covers

2021
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,599
>> two detectors two detector is a half of

2022
01:51:59,599 --> 01:52:04,320
an analyst and a minimum amount.

2023
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:08,960
The give grant covers three detectives,

2024
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,599
a full the give analyst position that's

2025
01:52:11,599 --> 01:52:19,430
listed separately and a minimum.

2026
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:20,080
» Go ahead, please.

2027
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,520
>> Just earlier you you were talking about

2028
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,599
you said LPR and I just didn't know what

2029
01:52:23,599 --> 01:52:24,480
that was.

2030
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:25,599
>> License plate.

2031
01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:28,639
>> Okay. Sorry about that.

2032
01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:31,679
>> I know.

2033
01:52:31,679 --> 01:52:33,360
>> Any other question about the police

2034
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,679
administration section?

2035
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:36,639
>> Go ahead, please.

2036
01:52:36,639 --> 01:52:39,040
>> I think moving forward similar to how we

2037
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,040
uh identify the car funded positions,

2038
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,400
would it make sense or is there a

2039
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,960
consensus to identify grant funed

2040
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,320
positions on budgets moving forward?

2041
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,040
>> Is that something that's uh

2042
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,679
commissioner? Can you

2043
01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:55,040
provide that report?

2044
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:56,560
>> Not for this year.

2045
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:57,520
aren't done.

2046
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,360
>> Yeah, I mean that's a possibility to

2047
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:00,480
look into it.

2048
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:02,960
>> Thank you.

2049
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:09,119
>> Chief, on the overtime 80 3120 112 it's

2050
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:12,880
like down 63% from 150,000 to 55

2051
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:18,229
>> be an extremely difficult goal,

2052
01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:19,920
» right? I mean

2053
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,239
>> that that I I can explain that number.

2054
01:53:22,239 --> 01:53:24,560
You'll see that that we took a tax

2055
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,080
position

2056
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,510
salary

2057
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,360
next page

2058
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,480
created a professional standard

2059
01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:51,830
part of that over time.

2060
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:52,560
That's

2061
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,320
>> the ASP is about.

2062
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:55,280
>> Yeah.

2063
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:56,639
>> Any other questions for the police

2064
01:53:56,639 --> 01:54:00,080
administration section?

2065
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:06,709
>> Seeing none, we'll move to

2066
01:54:06,719 --> 01:54:12,310
» Sorry.

2067
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,800
So, um this topic came up under the

2068
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,119
other department. I see that you also

2069
01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:19,040
took up A3120

2070
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,159
floor 2C which was the anti-racist

2071
01:54:22,159 --> 01:54:24,080
campaign department. I know that that's

2072
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,199
something we've been doing.

2073
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:30,000
>> It was there in 2024. We had access and

2074
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,040
I think in 2025 I thought there was a

2075
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,760
conversation because every two years so

2076
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:42,070
often that type of change.

2077
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,599
No, that was ARA funed one time the

2078
01:54:45,599 --> 01:54:48,159
whole department and we never had any

2079
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:52,000
more fun completed for new officers.

2080
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,599
>> So the new officers don't go through

2081
01:54:53,599 --> 01:54:55,360
that

2082
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,080
>> since since we gave it last year 2024.

2083
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,599
So in 2025 we have not done it

2084
01:55:01,599 --> 01:55:04,719
probably had

2085
01:55:04,719 --> 01:55:06,960
we didn't hire last year we have

2086
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:08,719
probably less than five officers that

2087
01:55:08,719 --> 01:55:15,669
are joined us.

2088
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:17,520
Thank you

2089
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,239
chief to you mention this near

2090
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:22,560
the public safety equipment software

2091
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,480
that is primarily driven because of the

2092
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,639
new technology and the software

2093
01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:28,000
>> that's the one that unfortunately I

2094
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:35,360
mentioned last year this year that's the axon 495,000 of that is axon

2095
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:39,119
uh the remainder of it is a call aurora

2096
01:55:39,119 --> 01:55:43,840
or that uh is going to be reimbursed and

2097
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,719
I included that in the revenue line from

2098
01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:48,960
county exports agreement. That's not you

2099
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:50,239
guys haven't seen it yet. It's not

2100
01:55:50,239 --> 01:55:52,239
completed yet, but the rest of the money

2101
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:56,080
is in the revenue line for

2102
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:59,199
>> So the 495 is that software equipment

2103
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:00,239
and software

2104
01:56:00,239 --> 01:56:03,760
>> that is all it's all

2105
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,280
it's like 493 and change I think but 495

2106
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:11,920
is all goes all the year. the first

2107
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,840
chief sever

2108
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,840
for two years with other paper for three

2109
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:25,669
years. This is the first guys.

2110
01:56:25,679 --> 01:56:26,320
» Go ahead.

2111
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,000
>> I think my question comes at the end.

2112
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:29,440
So, we still are going all through all

2113
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,119
these other categories.

2114
01:56:31,119 --> 01:56:33,119
>> Well, I just am concerned when we get to

2115
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:34,800
the end. I mean, we're down four

2116
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:38,560
positions overall. Um, and I find that

2117
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,480
concerning our police department to be

2118
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,679
down uh that many folks. Um, it does

2119
01:56:43,679 --> 01:56:48,560
seem like that would have um an impact,

2120
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,400
but we can talk about it at the end of

2121
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,119
your entire presentation. That's up to you.

2122
01:56:53,119 --> 01:56:54,719
>> Well, you can ask it since you asked a

2123
01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:56,639
question. Let it be an answer or

2124
01:56:56,639 --> 01:56:59,119
address. So this budget right here

2125
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:03,360
represents 168. So 168 the total number

2126
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:08,800
of officers is 168 number 16

2127
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,760
>> the numbers all add up to 168. So

2128
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:16,080
there's no um numbers take it out

2129
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:17,599
>> unless there was something done that I

2130
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:18,639
was

2131
01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:20,080
>> she mentioned that we have five in the

2132
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:25,510
academy

2133
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,800
» longterm military

2134
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,960
>> position in the civilian

2135
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,000
dog.

2136
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,199
>> Yes. He loves civilians. We have an

2137
01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:37,599
animal control officer, a gear or a

2138
01:57:37,599 --> 01:57:42,639
crime analyst, a matron, and

2139
01:57:42,639 --> 01:57:44,800
an IPS2 in parking. So, we have four

2140
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,440
civilian positions, but no more

2141
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,599
positions that I'm aware of.

2142
01:57:49,599 --> 01:57:51,840
>> I was just looking at the line on

2143
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,480
>> So, the position that is being uh

2144
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,560
>> they were reduction is more of a

2145
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:58,960
civilian.

2146
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,360
>> Gotcha. They were removed from there,

2147
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,840
but they were moved into A312A. They

2148
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,520
were just moved to a different spot. So

2149
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,199
everybody was

2150
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:08,880
>> Okay.

2151
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:14,080
So they moved from 31 to 32.

2152
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:15,280
>> Okay. I was just looking

2153
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:16,800
>> I was looking.

2154
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:24,880
>> Yeah. Yeah. On page 35 it says in 2025 we adopted 188.5

2155
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,480
but in 2026 the code was 184.5. So

2156
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,199
that's the four position that static is

2157
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:33,119
referring to that somewhere throughout

2158
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:34,800
look like

2159
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:39,350
based on the total that's needed

2160
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:39,760
on page

2161
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,109
>> 35.

2162
01:58:43,119 --> 01:58:44,880
» Yes.

2163
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,520
>> Thank you.

2164
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,360
>> All right.

2165
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:52,480
Okay. Let's u move to the professional

2166
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,920
standard bureau page 32

2167
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,400
and let's

2168
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:02,390
budget

2169
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:08,709
what is happening there.

2170
01:59:08,719 --> 01:59:11,199
So

2171
01:59:11,199 --> 01:59:13,280
recognizing that the captain is in

2172
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,920
parking unit

2173
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,480
typically would make

2174
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:20,960
more the salary line is when you add

2175
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:25,360
overtime into it and u in addition to

2176
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,920
that the commander of the professional

2177
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,560
standard bureau conducts investigations

2178
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:34,320
some on other department members so I

2179
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:37,119
discussion with the mayor my my idea my

2180
01:59:37,119 --> 01:59:38,880
thought was to change the captain's

2181
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,199
position to a deputy chief position a

2182
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:44,960
set salary line and make it bud budget

2183
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:50,149
neutral by taking

2184
01:59:50,159 --> 01:59:58,950
happens over time.

2185
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,760
» It's it's really as simple as that.

2186
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,080
Another bureau including all the people

2187
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:11,830
underneath the captain.

2188
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:13,599
Are there any questions regarding the

2189
02:00:13,599 --> 02:00:16,960
section professional standards?

2190
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,400
Go ahead please.

2191
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,480
>> I know in your

2192
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:24,320
uh introduction she definitely captivity

2193
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,800
and respect still there's more work to

2194
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,320
do. Um concentrating on this can

2195
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,480
identify the benefits of that stand

2196
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:34,320
employment and just what some

2197
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:35,679
expectations that the members of the

2198
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:39,119
community expect.

2199
02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:42,639
Um well again

2200
02:00:42,639 --> 02:00:45,040
not there was ever a concern but I do

2201
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,119
think from an organiz organizational

2202
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:49,360
perspective or accountability

2203
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,599
perspective having somebody who's not

2204
02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:53,920
tied to a police union or same

2205
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,560
professional standards which also is

2206
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,840
internal affairs wouldn't make sense and

2207
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:04,239
um but also to to have a deputy chief at

2208
02:01:04,239 --> 02:01:09,520
a higher level command staff level and this

2209
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,440
It's not that high of a level in a

2210
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,560
Catholic. It's maybe a tiny bit higher,

2211
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,440
but really taking into consideration

2212
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,639
um professional standards, risk

2213
02:01:20,639 --> 02:01:23,760
management, liability,

2214
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,000
policy, all the things that kind of

2215
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:29,840
interwe together, use of force, um

2216
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:32,480
really to reduce risk for the city, um

2217
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,800
police department, and improve our

2218
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:36,719
professionalism.

2219
02:01:36,719 --> 02:01:39,280
Taking a global picture all of those.

2220
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,480
That's why we have uh under this bureau

2221
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,599
um the sergeant professionals, our

2222
02:01:45,599 --> 02:01:56,149
training sergeant and our offices

2223
02:01:56,159 --> 02:02:04,070
are unfounded, but even if an unf.

2224
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:05,679
And uh and that that's where we get

2225
02:02:05,679 --> 02:02:10,239
better from a training perspective. Any

2226
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:13,040
other question? All right. See now we'll

2227
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:21,510
move to page 333.

2228
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:25,280
Anything to highlight here

2229
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:43,589
to talk about

2230
02:02:43,599 --> 02:02:49,109
this one is

2231
02:02:49,119 --> 02:02:52,800
» the special police officer doing brief.

2232
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:54,480
>> No, that's that's more just to get in

2233
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,880
line with what we're trying to

2234
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:02,229
exemplify.

2235
02:03:02,239 --> 02:03:03,199
» Go ahead, please.

2236
02:03:03,199 --> 02:03:06,159
>> So, the police m um so that was one of

2237
02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:07,520
those civilian positions that you're

2238
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:08,080
speaking on.

2239
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:09,119
>> Yes.

2240
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:11,280
>> And how does removing one impact the

2241
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:13,679
overall service or functioning of the

2242
02:03:13,679 --> 02:03:14,560
police department?

2243
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,199
>> I can honestly say that one is the one

2244
02:03:17,199 --> 02:03:19,199
position that will not affect anything.

2245
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:21,040
>> Okay. Right.

2246
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,560
>> We have an agreement with the sheriff to

2247
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:26,159
take our our

2248
02:03:26,159 --> 02:03:28,960
preies to the sheriff's department.

2249
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:30,080
>> So, we really just need to make sure

2250
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,639
during time is open.

2251
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:33,599
>> Other than that, they go to the

2252
02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:37,669
sheriff's department.

2253
02:03:37,679 --> 02:03:39,920
» Sheriff service.

2254
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:41,360
>> Well, I'm very concerned about the

2255
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,440
reduction in the overtime. Um, but I

2256
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,040
think in asking that question ahead of

2257
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:46,400
time, it looked like it was something

2258
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:47,679
that we might have to talk about in

2259
02:03:47,679 --> 02:03:50,880
executive session. Is that

2260
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,599
In terms of the response I received,

2261
02:03:53,599 --> 02:03:56,080
>> I mean

2262
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:58,239
the number that's there is reflective of

2263
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:00,560
the request to

2264
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,560
reduce our budget. It's not reflective

2265
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,800
but what we need. I know these are

2266
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,880
challenging times and we just didn't

2267
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:08,320
have anywhere else to take it from.

2268
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:10,560
That's what it comes down. So I appreci

2269
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:11,360
I appreciate you

2270
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,280
>> the variable cost that we have the

2271
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,199
ability to say but for everything else

2272
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:18,239
we truly looked at five or six times I

2273
02:04:18,239 --> 02:04:23,189
said don't need it we need it

2274
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:25,280
really

2275
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:30,390
looking

2276
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,040
» so so with the reduction in all over all

2277
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,400
the overtime that's being cut back out

2278
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:39,040
what does that mean to us as revenues

2279
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:43,360
here additional maybe

2280
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,760
uh community events. What are we looking

2281
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:49,520
at? How's it going to affect us?

2282
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:52,719
Oh, you know if that line was

2283
02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:55,520
one year

2284
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:56,960
every day is going to be like a Saturday

2285
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:58,560
afternoon.

2286
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:01,679
We had 34

2287
02:05:01,679 --> 02:05:04,639
to respond priority ones the staffing

2288
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:08,000
levels just what they are

2289
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:12,960
>> and mandate levels just to cover just I

2290
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,280
don't think that that will cover that we

2291
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:19,030
did analysis

2292
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,840
was just

2293
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:24,080
It wasn't good.

2294
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:27,830
It's uh

2295
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:30,560
yeah, the number that chief will put

2296
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:34,080
together originally is is a realistic

2297
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:38,080
number which was close to 2.75 million.

2298
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:41,199
We thought we could struggle and make it

2299
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:44,560
through 2.4 million.

2300
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:46,400
This is including the waste that will

2301
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:51,440
come through next year. Keep that alive.

2302
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,719
and have some debt to to make to make

2303
02:05:54,719 --> 02:05:56,880
those numbers happen. We have to start

2304
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,760
polishing uh investigative jobs to put

2305
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,800
them into control just to answer calls.

2306
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,040
We know what the domino effect of that

2307
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,000
is the methodology that explain

2308
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:11,360
breaks down. We have less investigations

2309
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,760
going on more stuff going on in our

2310
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:17,360
communities that we can't react to.

2311
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,800
The regional crime element knows that

2312
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,639
and they start setting up here and

2313
02:06:22,639 --> 02:06:26,719
that's when things go backwards. So

2314
02:06:26,719 --> 02:06:29,199
that's my assessment.

2315
02:06:29,199 --> 02:06:32,639
>> So again, um like task force

2316
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:35,920
that individuals from our our police

2317
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:37,360
department are assigned to will have to

2318
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,440
be pulled off the task force to come

2319
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:41,840
back to help out

2320
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,560
in the task force uh without

2321
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:46,079
>> that's one option you would ask.

2322
02:06:46,079 --> 02:06:48,639
>> One option. Um, and what about like the

2323
02:06:48,639 --> 02:06:51,040
fire department? Uh, Chief Burns said,

2324
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:52,639
you know, the health and and mental

2325
02:06:52,639 --> 02:06:55,280
health and well-being of your officers

2326
02:06:55,280 --> 02:07:00,790
um being out there more and more and more.

2327
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:04,560
Well, I mean, he's he's 100% correct.

2328
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:05,840
We're kind of dealing with that right

2329
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,400
now at the levels that we have. That's

2330
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,679
why I asked for a staffing analysis. Um

2331
02:07:11,679 --> 02:07:13,920
it's just the reality of the generation

2332
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,079
that we're hiring now and and where

2333
02:07:16,079 --> 02:07:18,159
we're at. Something that we monitor

2334
02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:21,599
daily regularly and uh we're watching

2335
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:25,040
closely and um

2336
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,760
those

2337
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,280
community events

2338
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,040
>> I mean will there be

2339
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:36,550
>> funding for

2340
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,760
those events have to pay for themselves?

2341
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,079
>> I know. At our church, we we pay

2342
02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:45,119
officers saying,

2343
02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:47,440
>> but but even then if this number were to

2344
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:47,920
stick,

2345
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:48,560
>> you won't have

2346
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,079
>> if we hired the officers, it comes out

2347
02:07:50,079 --> 02:07:51,520
of that number. Then when it gets

2348
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:53,040
reimbured, it goes into the general

2349
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,520
fund. Doesn't go back into that line. So

2350
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:57,520
that number is only going to last for so

2351
02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:59,679
long before it's gone. I mean, I know we

2352
02:07:59,679 --> 02:08:01,599
could probably commissioner and ask for

2353
02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:04,800
funds to be moved, but

2354
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:08,800
>> that's not the way that we got it.

2355
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,480
built into that number is the

2356
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,079
reimbursement.

2357
02:08:12,079 --> 02:08:14,079
I guess that's the better answer.

2358
02:08:14,079 --> 02:08:17,840
>> So, chief historically um I mean I

2359
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,840
looking at the budget back as long as I

2360
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:23,679
be on the council we have uh pretty much

2361
02:08:23,679 --> 02:08:26,079
um whatever we budget normally have to

2362
02:08:26,079 --> 02:08:27,760
spend on this money because you have to

2363
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,480
provide us you have to send the office.

2364
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:32,480
So regardless if we were to say today we

2365
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:36,800
a total budget $1.1 million

2366
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:38,400
you're going to stay within that budget

2367
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,280
or you are you going to exceed it

2368
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,040
historically

2369
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:44,400
we're not saying that you have to stop

2370
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:47,360
at 1.1 but you have to provide a service

2371
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:49,920
to the community so is that something

2372
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,639
that been trending over the years the

2373
02:08:52,639 --> 02:08:54,719
line is there the budget is there but

2374
02:08:54,719 --> 02:08:56,480
you have to provide a service and and

2375
02:08:56,480 --> 02:09:00,229
spend

2376
02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:01,840
Well, I mean, I can say that

2377
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,719
historically that we we operate in a

2378
02:09:04,719 --> 02:09:06,960
manner where we we strive to stay within

2379
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:08,960
the budget, but you're right, at the end

2380
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:10,960
of the year, we typically get close to

2381
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:14,480
it, possibly go over it. At that point,

2382
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:17,440
either chief or chief takes a phone call

2383
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:19,360
to the commissioner of finance and sees

2384
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,159
some of our vacancy funds can be

2385
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:24,639
allocated towards the overtime. We

2386
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:26,719
ultimately

2387
02:09:26,719 --> 02:09:28,800
At least I'm not I'm not so positive

2388
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,320
about the last couple years, but

2389
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,360
historically the first

2390
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,239
six years I was cheap. We we came in

2391
02:09:36,239 --> 02:09:40,079
under budget total budget um by the end

2392
02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:42,320
of the year. Um and many years we were

2393
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:44,560
able to make some purchases for some

2394
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:46,079
stuff that we needed the next year

2395
02:09:46,079 --> 02:09:48,480
because we were under. But you know

2396
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,639
those lines typically always go over

2397
02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:52,719
because of the either the need or the

2398
02:09:52,719 --> 02:09:55,520
uncertainty where we hate to say no to

2399
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:57,280
anything. he's asking for is they're

2400
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,840
asking for a reason. It's not a a luxury

2401
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:01,040
usually.

2402
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:02,719
>> So So there is an opportunity to move

2403
02:10:02,719 --> 02:10:04,880
funding around as we just mentioned from

2404
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,520
one to help cover additional costs in

2405
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:09,360
terms of safe not really savings but

2406
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:12,719
it's like money that is in a department

2407
02:10:12,719 --> 02:10:15,280
that is on that can help offset some of

2408
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:16,000
the over time.

2409
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,199
>> So at the end of the year if there's

2410
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:19,760
vacancies left and there's money over

2411
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:23,840
the finance department moves it over.

2412
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,440
And I think we discussed this last year

2413
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:27,199
in terms of the staffing in terms of you

2414
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:30,560
have people retiring or not hired which

2415
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:32,880
at a given time six months four months

2416
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,960
of that unused funding. So that will

2417
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,480
then transfer to all the overalls.

2418
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:39,199
>> Yes.

2419
02:10:39,199 --> 02:10:43,189
>> Across all the departments.

2420
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:45,599
I I I just I just want to point out that

2421
02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:48,880
right now um it looks like we we're at

2422
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:52,149
1.746395

2423
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:55,440
in overtime which is actually larger

2424
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,280
here now. Um you said these these

2425
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:58,960
figures the budget to date was that I

2426
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,679
forget when you what date was

2427
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:03,119
>> the year to date is that up to

2428
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:03,760
>> 30th

2429
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:05,599
>> September 30th.

2430
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:07,679
>> So as of 9:30 we were already at

2431
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:10,480
1.746395.88

2432
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:15,840
88 which is like 600,000 over um the

2433
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,880
overall proposed budget uh for that line

2434
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,920
for 2026. So um I mean I just think

2435
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,800
about even some of the community events

2436
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:28,159
um the large scale events in the park um

2437
02:11:28,159 --> 02:11:31,199
those types of things. I mean I guess

2438
02:11:31,199 --> 02:11:33,920
we'd either have to scale back on those

2439
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,480
events maybe not give permission for

2440
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:38,800
those events to be held. Um I I don't

2441
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:40,079
know. I'm just saying, but I I think

2442
02:11:40,079 --> 02:11:41,440
it's something we all really going to

2443
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:42,960
have to talk about as we progress

2444
02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:44,880
through these discussions over the next

2445
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:45,599
couple of days.

2446
02:11:45,599 --> 02:11:47,360
>> I I will note that when you're looking

2447
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,840
at uh what we expect year to date

2448
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:52,480
through September, I should say in 2025

2449
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,199
compared to 2024.

2450
02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:58,400
>> I didn't that we're about a quarter of a

2451
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,560
million dollars less intentionally.

2452
02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:02,400
>> Okay.

2453
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:03,679
>> Spoke to the mayor.

2454
02:12:03,679 --> 02:12:04,800
>> Oh, I didn't see that

2455
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:07,119
>> early summer and he stressed the

2456
02:12:07,119 --> 02:12:12,239
challenges that we'd be facing. So, we changed our staffing levels probably

2457
02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:13,599
mid August

2458
02:12:13,599 --> 02:12:16,000
>> and and we've been saving money, but we

2459
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:18,560
certainly have been paying a price for

2460
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,119
multiple calls for officers not showing

2461
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:24,079
up for a while. It it takes to the point

2462
02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:26,159
where we're we have a daily discussion

2463
02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:28,400
about whether we put them back up or

2464
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:30,480
keep them down. Knowing what we're going

2465
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,480
into next year, it's a something that

2466
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,440
we're monitoring very closely, but we've

2467
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:38,800
been for not have the calls that come

2468
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,040
in, but we have to just send people.

2469
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:42,719
It's something we're monitoring closely.

2470
02:12:42,719 --> 02:12:45,599
But we have reduced our staffing levels

2471
02:12:45,599 --> 02:12:50,719
up to a a very low number for the last

2472
02:12:50,719 --> 02:12:53,679
eight weeks.

2473
02:12:53,679 --> 02:12:56,000
>> Yeah. Does it change with those with

2474
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:58,560
those cost of creation? Does does it

2475
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,360
exceed your budget overall budget within

2476
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:03,840
the department

2477
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:05,440
>> or do you stay within the

2478
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,159
>> So the last last few years we save very

2479
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:09,440
much. So even though we went last year

2480
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:15,119
we went over um about $700,000 over all

2481
02:13:15,119 --> 02:13:19,040
over 600,000 over we were within

2482
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:20,960
we were under under our entire budget

2483
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,480
>> and because I mentioned moving on to

2484
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:31,669
help increase all the department.

2485
02:13:31,679 --> 02:13:35,840
» So question so more clarity on that. So

2486
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:38,560
we like kind of get kind of a breakdown

2487
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:40,400
of what that looks like maybe over the

2488
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:41,920
last two or three years like when things

2489
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:44,239
have to be shifted over because it seems

2490
02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:46,320
like they call like you guys call

2491
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,880
finances you guys

2492
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:56,229
be sharpened by transfers

2493
02:13:56,239 --> 02:13:58,000
» I think you're asking you would like to

2494
02:13:58,000 --> 02:13:59,440
see those transfers

2495
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,480
>> yeah just yeah maybe stra if you could I

2496
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:08,870
don't know I'll later test that for

2497
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:09,520
Go ahead, please.

2498
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:10,800
>> So, I just want to get some clarity on

2499
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,880
what you've said about overtime and

2500
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:16,159
reimbursement from community events.

2501
02:14:16,159 --> 02:14:18,880
>> So,

2502
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:22,719
you the community events have to pay uh

2503
02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:25,119
organizers have to pay, police officers

2504
02:14:25,119 --> 02:14:26,639
to be there, whatever their overtime

2505
02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:29,119
rate is, all everything included their

2506
02:14:29,119 --> 02:14:31,599
standard rate. There's no there's no um

2507
02:14:31,599 --> 02:14:35,760
they don't get a break on that. that

2508
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:39,679
>> we have a separate um the you know

2509
02:14:39,679 --> 02:14:41,440
depends on what number you're talking

2510
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,400
about but they at a minimum they pay the

2511
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:46,719
officer's salary that's going the

2512
02:14:46,719 --> 02:14:48,400
paycheck

2513
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,000
>> the fringe is something else on top of

2514
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:51,520
that

2515
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:54,400
>> and then when the paper comes to to the

2516
02:14:54,400 --> 02:14:56,079
city you're saying it goes to the

2517
02:14:56,079 --> 02:14:58,960
general fund doesn't go to here but

2518
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:00,239
>> that's my understanding that's the

2519
02:15:00,239 --> 02:15:03,119
commissioner

2520
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:13,750
general fund revenue.

2521
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:15,040
» Okay.

2522
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:17,920
>> All right. So, how do you like right

2523
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:20,079
now? How do you determine that? How much

2524
02:15:20,079 --> 02:15:22,159
that's going to be if we don't know

2525
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:24,239
events? How do you determine how much

2526
02:15:24,239 --> 02:15:27,119
that would be?

2527
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:29,199
>> Well, we we can only forecast what we

2528
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:31,840
anticipate that we know. something like

2529
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:33,520
the stock age, you know, do that every

2530
02:15:33,520 --> 02:15:35,360
year. We're going to get reimbursed is

2531
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:36,880
built into our budget.

2532
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:38,560
>> But if if something comes up out of

2533
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:40,480
nowhere and they ask us to order it and

2534
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:42,159
we say, "Yeah, okay."

2535
02:15:42,159 --> 02:15:44,639
>> And we get reimbured for and we spend

2536
02:15:44,639 --> 02:15:47,840
$10,000 for that, that's $10,000 less we

2537
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,000
can spend out in the community fighting

2538
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,040
crime.

2539
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:52,639
>> And now we just spend at a community

2540
02:15:52,639 --> 02:15:54,320
event and we don't get that put back

2541
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:56,400
into fighting crime.

2542
02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:59,040
So it's just it's one of those if it's

2543
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,679
unanticipated that we do it. That's why

2544
02:16:01,679 --> 02:16:04,800
we like to properly plan and we like to

2545
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:06,639
we

2546
02:16:06,639 --> 02:16:08,320
give you the commitments to reimburse

2547
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:10,079
those to actually have those

2548
02:16:10,079 --> 02:16:12,320
organizations pay us.

2549
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:14,560
>> So the standards like you said the stock

2550
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:16,480
like the Caribbean vest and you know the

2551
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:19,199
group vested all the one that are every

2552
02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:22,000
single year happen you've budgeted that

2553
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,560
in for the amount of over time that

2554
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:27,040
would be there. Yeah, the the ones that

2555
02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:29,280
we don't anticipate maybe is somebody

2556
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:31,040
comes to Proctors and they need they

2557
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,200
need details there. We didn't anticipate

2558
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:33,679
it.

2559
02:16:33,679 --> 02:16:35,760
>> So they say that they'll pay for it. We

2560
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:38,160
have to send officers there knowing that

2561
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:40,479
the the performers going to reimburse

2562
02:16:40,479 --> 02:16:43,040
us.

2563
02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:44,479
>> So So in terms of these community

2564
02:16:44,479 --> 02:16:47,120
events, are all the officers on overtime

2565
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:51,439
for these events or do we have a mix?

2566
02:16:51,439 --> 02:16:52,559
>> Typically it's over time.

2567
02:16:52,559 --> 02:16:55,120
>> All time. Yeah, very rarely would we

2568
02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:58,080
have the staffing available to put them

2569
02:16:58,080 --> 02:16:59,760
there. That doesn't mean that we don't

2570
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:03,359
have events that we

2571
02:17:03,359 --> 02:17:05,679
won't send officers on patrol just to go

2572
02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:07,840
in and out just they won't they wouldn't

2573
02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:09,519
be posted there. They're posted there.

2574
02:17:09,519 --> 02:17:12,800
They're getting paid there

2575
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:14,240
during the day in the summer time.

2576
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:18,479
Sometimes the school cos are there.

2577
02:17:18,479 --> 02:17:20,160
If you were to put an estimate in terms

2578
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:22,080
of like let's say all the event that we

2579
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:24,719
had this year and do a comparison

2580
02:17:24,719 --> 02:17:26,319
>> would you able to attach an estimate

2581
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:29,599
dollar amount to that what it will cost

2582
02:17:29,599 --> 02:17:31,679
if you don't have

2583
02:17:31,679 --> 02:17:33,599
you can provide that to us. So we've

2584
02:17:33,599 --> 02:17:35,920
looked at it because if that is over

2585
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:37,359
time I don't think that will break the

2586
02:17:37,359 --> 02:17:39,439
bank here it would be you know thousands

2587
02:17:39,439 --> 02:17:41,679
of dollars but it won't be hundreds of

2588
02:17:41,679 --> 02:17:45,280
thousands. So we have a reimburseable

2589
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:52,070
details was last year was 67,733

2590
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:56,000
and year to date build 39,832

2591
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:57,120
so far

2592
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:59,359
>> 2024 was 68k

2593
02:17:59,359 --> 02:18:01,760
>> that's reimburseable details that

2594
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:03,840
doesn't include

2595
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:07,359
>> Oh yes summer night Christmas stuff that

2596
02:18:07,359 --> 02:18:07,840
we

2597
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,200
>> What do you have for your actual this

2598
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:12,080
year? I mean so far it's 40,000

2599
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:14,240
>> 40,000 over here today

2600
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:17,040
>> about 150,000 total

2601
02:18:17,040 --> 02:18:19,840
>> give or take about 150

2602
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:22,160
>> okay some of that's not reimburseable

2603
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:22,960
Christmas

2604
02:18:22,960 --> 02:18:25,120
>> rivers casino last year was 67 so

2605
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:26,559
there's certain

2606
02:18:26,559 --> 02:18:28,719
>> we have a couple different lines that we

2607
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:34,549
have to

2608
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:38,000
» is reverse casino part of an agreement

2609
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:42,719
is that That's it's reimburseable but not over time.

2610
02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:45,040
>> It's it's over time. Yeah. It's like a

2611
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:51,990
separate billing that's

2612
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:52,960
even number.

2613
02:18:52,960 --> 02:18:55,599
>> Okay. Yeah.

2614
02:18:55,599 --> 02:18:56,880
>> So you want the total?

2615
02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:58,719
>> Yeah. Just an estimate of what it would

2616
02:18:58,719 --> 02:19:01,519
cost us if we were to

2617
02:19:01,519 --> 02:19:08,549
surface to all these um events.

2618
02:19:08,559 --> 02:19:09,840
Go ahead please.

2619
02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:11,840
>> Uh I think it's just important to

2620
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,719
highlight that the only difference in

2621
02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:18,000
how this overtime conversation is being

2622
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,319
discussed that this has been included in

2623
02:19:20,319 --> 02:19:22,880
the proposed budget. Sincerely and with

2624
02:19:22,880 --> 02:19:24,800
all respect everyone at the table the

2625
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,800
comments and response to this car milder

2626
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,359
in comparison to what individuals such

2627
02:19:29,359 --> 02:19:31,120
as myself

2628
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:33,439
Mr. Farley when raising the same issues

2629
02:19:33,439 --> 02:19:36,000
and concerns. Although it's slightly

2630
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:38,960
worrisome that number would be included

2631
02:19:38,960 --> 02:19:40,639
in the proposed budget. I'm in agreement

2632
02:19:40,639 --> 02:19:42,240
with the fact that we have to be more

2633
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:45,040
strategic in how we operate

2634
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:48,240
with the police. Um I think the worry is

2635
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:50,880
just how sick and then sincerely not

2636
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:52,240
wanting to put you and your officers.

2637
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,920
She put her in harm's way when needing

2638
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,520
to kind of delay responses to the

2639
02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:00,720
community. Um but I think my worry is

2640
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:02,880
we're making considerable investments in

2641
02:20:02,880 --> 02:20:04,560
technology.

2642
02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:06,720
saw the conversation that we just had.

2643
02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:08,560
Those are either not sufficient or

2644
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:10,000
they're not working. And I don't think

2645
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:12,399
that's a difficult or

2646
02:20:12,399 --> 02:20:14,479
wrong thing to say. I think this

2647
02:20:14,479 --> 02:20:15,840
identifies there needs to be a different

2648
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:20,240
approach. Um if you care to comment, but

2649
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:23,040
I think in hearing how these budget

2650
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:25,280
talks have continued over the years,

2651
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,080
it's clear to me that it's fluid. So we

2652
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:30,240
put anywhere

2653
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:32,479
as long as it bottoms out or evens out

2654
02:20:32,479 --> 02:20:33,680
at the end of the year that's what

2655
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:35,520
matters. So I think what I think would

2656
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:38,000
be more valuable is how do we condense

2657
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:43,200
this year to date budget which is very rough on the eyes to understand

2658
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:46,000
what the actual numbers are and that

2659
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:47,280
would get them right away. So I'm going

2660
02:20:47,280 --> 02:20:49,760
to be taking time to read through that.

2661
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,000
Um but sincerely I would hope

2662
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,000
that confident aligning at the end of

2663
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:58,319
the year.

2664
02:20:58,319 --> 02:21:02,000
But since those are your comments,

2665
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:04,319
>> yeah, just to add to that, like I can

2666
02:21:04,319 --> 02:21:06,640
recall two years ago, three years ago,

2667
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:11,359
we were down like 140 officers in I

2668
02:21:11,359 --> 02:21:13,520
think every time we come to the council

2669
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:17,120
say they wanted us to hire more officer

2670
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:19,600
and we're talk about hiring more officer

2671
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:22,000
will help with the reduction over time.

2672
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:24,479
And at the same time our investment in

2673
02:21:24,479 --> 02:21:28,080
technology new technology and advanc

2674
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:29,600
health will reduce the over time and

2675
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:31,359
that's something you have brought to us

2676
02:21:31,359 --> 02:21:33,760
and kind of you know we we partner with

2677
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:36,560
you because of those suggestion that you

2678
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:39,840
have brought forward to us. So I think

2679
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,240
the overtime reduction

2680
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,880
is in partnership with new technology

2681
02:21:44,880 --> 02:21:48,319
with a full complement of 168 officer

2682
02:21:48,319 --> 02:21:52,960
give and take. We had six out. So

2683
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:54,800
is that still working with a full

2684
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:57,359
complement of the uniform officer plus

2685
02:21:57,359 --> 02:22:00,800
all the advanced technology that we have

2686
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:05,040
still need the full capacity of time

2687
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:07,600
historically

2688
02:22:07,600 --> 02:22:09,760
I think my response to that is and this

2689
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:12,479
is this is why I requested a staffing by

2690
02:22:12,479 --> 02:22:15,760
the state I actually requested one

2691
02:22:15,760 --> 02:22:19,680
precoid it got stopped because of co and

2692
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,280
they didn't finish it And then when I

2693
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:23,680
circled back, finally got it to be done

2694
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:26,399
again, the response they gave me is this

2695
02:22:26,399 --> 02:22:28,000
is actually good for you and the

2696
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,160
department because the state has

2697
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:32,080
re-evaluated the way that they conduct

2698
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,640
staffing analysis for police departments

2699
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,439
because of the shift of our world we

2700
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:39,520
live in. The shift of technology, the

2701
02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:42,640
shift of society. We're dealing with so

2702
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:44,399
many things, more things now than we

2703
02:22:44,399 --> 02:22:47,040
were nine years ago. Um, nine years ago,

2704
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:48,720
we weren't dealing with the social

2705
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:50,880
problems that we're dealing with now.

2706
02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:52,720
Um, you know, the police department's

2707
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:55,120
dealing with homelessness, with poverty,

2708
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:57,520
with food insecurity, with pan handling.

2709
02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:58,800
We're dealing with that now. We weren't

2710
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:00,560
doing it, nine years ago.

2711
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:03,840
>> We're dealing with aggressive uh

2712
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:07,840
juveniles on electric bicycles in

2713
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,399
traffic, punching cars, punching people,

2714
02:23:10,399 --> 02:23:13,520
robbing people, you name it. And those

2715
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:14,960
things didn't exist before. they were

2716
02:23:14,960 --> 02:23:16,160
pedal bikes.

2717
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:20,240
>> We're dealing with an increase in needs

2718
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:24,000
between cell phones or apps to commit

2719
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:27,760
crimes um to report crimes and it's just

2720
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:30,319
I think it's shifted the job that we're

2721
02:23:30,319 --> 02:23:34,000
doing and yes the technology is is

2722
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:37,120
basically close the gap for us to keep

2723
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:40,080
our staffing numbers consistent but I

2724
02:23:40,080 --> 02:23:42,880
might I might argue that without that

2725
02:23:42,880 --> 02:23:46,240
technology maybe We would need 225 cops

2726
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:48,800
to do the job that we're doing now with

2727
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:52,000
165. So I until we get this analysis

2728
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:53,600
done, we won't know the right answer.

2729
02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:57,439
But um I I completely understand the

2730
02:23:57,439 --> 02:23:59,840
concerns because you're not wrong, but I

2731
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:01,280
did come here and I said, "Yeah, we do

2732
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:03,040
this. They should say this and that was

2733
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:05,280
the thought at the time, but society

2734
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:07,680
shifts sometimes."

2735
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,840
>> Go ahead. I would say I appreciate that

2736
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:11,439
uh those additional comments because it

2737
02:24:11,439 --> 02:24:14,319
does change the context and what

2738
02:24:14,319 --> 02:24:16,880
given you.

2739
02:24:16,880 --> 02:24:19,200
>> Any other comments?

2740
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:21,520
>> So, chief, as you're talking about the

2741
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:24,640
chip in society and things that you guys

2742
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:26,640
are being tasked to deal with, I think

2743
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:28,319
that that is a conversation that needs

2744
02:24:28,319 --> 02:24:30,800
to be had because I don't think that um

2745
02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:32,479
you know, calling the police or police

2746
02:24:32,479 --> 02:24:34,960
responding to every situation is good

2747
02:24:34,960 --> 02:24:36,640
for the community nor good for you guys.

2748
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:39,280
So, I guess what are some of the things

2749
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:42,319
um that you're

2750
02:24:42,319 --> 02:24:45,840
responding to that that maybe you think

2751
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:49,760
it'd be a a better response, you know,

2752
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,000
or maybe a different level of

2753
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:54,720
intervention that doesn't involve the

2754
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:57,200
police or involve the police so uh

2755
02:24:57,200 --> 02:24:58,960
significantly. If you haven't anything

2756
02:24:58,960 --> 02:25:03,750
come to mind

2757
02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:05,439
we had some ideas and we tried to

2758
02:25:05,439 --> 02:25:07,520
implement things that the reality of it

2759
02:25:07,520 --> 02:25:09,200
is part of the biggest problem as a

2760
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:10,880
society we have is not finding people

2761
02:25:10,880 --> 02:25:13,359
that want jobs. They don't want to work.

2762
02:25:13,359 --> 02:25:16,399
So we're doing things that in perfect

2763
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:19,280
society we have mental health workers

2764
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:22,560
responding to but they're work by

2765
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,600
themselves. So so who do you call when

2766
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:28,720
nobody else respond? call the police the

2767
02:25:28,720 --> 02:25:30,960
last resort. So, we're going there and

2768
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:33,840
because we weren't properly trained to

2769
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:36,000
do the job, we were forced to be

2770
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,160
properly trained and and build out a

2771
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:41,520
whole unit which we've done and an

2772
02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:46,240
expense additional cost. Um and because

2773
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:49,840
those are very challenging

2774
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,240
situations and specifically those with

2775
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:55,520
mental illness, we need to have

2776
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:56,880
accountability. We need to have that

2777
02:25:56,880 --> 02:25:59,280
technology to deal with the body cameras

2778
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:01,840
so we can get a better idea

2779
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:05,920
to see how we're doing with it. Um we're

2780
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:08,000
constantly thinking about different ways

2781
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:09,840
that we can do things. That's why we

2782
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,000
attend training conferences that we do

2783
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:13,520
to see what other people are doing in

2784
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:14,640
other parts of the country or other

2785
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:17,359
parts of the world. And we've been very

2786
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:22,080
intimidated here doing things. Um

2787
02:26:22,080 --> 02:26:26,870
that magic bullet to the solid.

2788
02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:30,800
» So I somewhat related is

2789
02:26:30,800 --> 02:26:34,479
uh you know one of our

2790
02:26:34,479 --> 02:26:36,319
large stakeholders in the community is

2791
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:41,680
Union College. Um, and I'm wondering

2792
02:26:41,680 --> 02:26:44,880
how Union College there our relationship

2793
02:26:44,880 --> 02:26:48,160
with Union College. Um, on some of our

2794
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:51,520
services, how is that evening out or

2795
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:54,630
measuring?

2796
02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:58,800
» I mean, are a graduate of the union?

2797
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:00,240
>> Okay. So, I think you want to answer

2798
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:02,479
that.

2799
02:27:02,479 --> 02:27:04,160
>> Had a close relationship with him, but

2800
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:05,520
every time I've reached out and I've

2801
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:08,319
reached out multiple times

2802
02:27:08,319 --> 02:27:10,800
They have not helped. They have not come

2803
02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:15,280
to help us multiple times.

2804
02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:16,880
You can only ask so many times before

2805
02:27:16,880 --> 02:27:22,630
you look somewhere else.

2806
02:27:22,640 --> 02:27:26,240
» But the college went home not so much.

2807
02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:30,560
>> So I so I in preliminary conversations

2808
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:32,080
with some of the leadership of union

2809
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:34,319
around this issue. Um, I guess I'm

2810
02:27:34,319 --> 02:27:35,840
talking a little bit more specifically

2811
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:39,840
around like the use of service, like the

2812
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:45,750
use of our services. Um, would it be

2813
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:49,040
wrong or inaccurate to say that they are

2814
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:51,600
kind of extracting some of our services

2815
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:54,960
cuz they call us, but there's there's no

2816
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:57,359
reciprocal.

2817
02:27:57,359 --> 02:28:01,040
Would that be accurate for you to say or

2818
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:09,349
>> Okay, thank you.

2819
02:28:09,359 --> 02:28:11,439
Um I'm just wondering and maybe it's

2820
02:28:11,439 --> 02:28:13,600
someplace else and I just am not

2821
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:15,760
remembering it correctly but in terms of

2822
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:18,399
like the mental health counselor that we

2823
02:28:18,399 --> 02:28:21,520
did have employed um

2824
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,800
for you guys you know for

2825
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:27,359
first responders. Is that person still

2826
02:28:27,359 --> 02:28:28,960
with us? Where is that?

2827
02:28:28,960 --> 02:28:30,960
>> She was under feature services.

2828
02:28:30,960 --> 02:28:35,439
>> Oh thank you.

2829
02:28:35,439 --> 02:28:36,800
>> Okay, great. Oh, there we go.

2830
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:41,590
>> We didn't approve that.

2831
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:42,560
» Thank you.

2832
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:43,040
>> Yeah,

2833
02:28:43,040 --> 02:28:45,200
>> she is. She is very wonderful. She's

2834
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:47,040
help.

2835
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:48,399
>> That's great.

2836
02:28:48,399 --> 02:28:49,760
>> She's also the same individual that

2837
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:50,720
supports the entire department.

2838
02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:52,399
>> Yes. And we definitely appreciate your

2839
02:28:52,399 --> 02:28:53,439
support of

2840
02:28:53,439 --> 02:28:57,040
>> Yes. All right. We'll move to next page.

2841
02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:03,270
Police investigation page 34.

2842
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:04,560
Chief, anything you would like to

2843
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:09,680
highlight here for us? Any movement? Any

2844
02:29:09,680 --> 02:29:11,840
increase here?

2845
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:13,520
52

2846
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:15,920
bill. So 53.

2847
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:17,520
Is there movement from one department to

2848
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:18,720
the next?

2849
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:22,230
>> Next one.

2850
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:25,040
crime analyst in general is no

2851
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:27,280
longer in the budget. And the give

2852
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:30,800
analyst is was one of the crime analyst

2853
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:34,479
assistants. Now they're working so they

2854
02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:36,399
have a new title of give analyst and

2855
02:29:36,399 --> 02:29:38,479
that is funded.

2856
02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:39,120
>> Okay.

2857
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:44,080
>> And that is in the give

2858
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:48,160
no longer in there that was funded

2859
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:50,399
through a grant and now one of our

2860
02:29:50,399 --> 02:29:58,550
partners

2861
02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:00,240
to us.

2862
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:01,200
>> Any questions?

2863
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:04,160
>> But still serving that serving.

2864
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:05,520
>> I remember that from

2865
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:07,600
>> it's a different person now. That person

2866
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:08,000
>> Okay.

2867
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:11,920
>> arms left us part.

2868
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:13,040
>> Okay.

2869
02:30:13,040 --> 02:30:14,399
>> Yes. Go ahead.

2870
02:30:14,399 --> 02:30:16,640
>> Say I'm trying to figure out the change

2871
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:23,760
where there it's looks like there's one more fil than there was in 25.

2872
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:25,600
36

2873
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:27,359
investigative.

2874
02:30:27,359 --> 02:30:30,160
>> Yes. One describe detective that we

2875
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:31,359
>> fully funded.

2876
02:30:31,359 --> 02:30:33,520
>> Yes. When we went we came to the um

2877
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:37,120
council last year our number was 167

2878
02:30:37,120 --> 02:30:39,439
total bills and then a few months ago we

2879
02:30:39,439 --> 02:30:41,120
came with a strive grant right

2880
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:43,280
>> and when we asked you to accept that we

2881
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:45,600
asked for it would increase our number

2882
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:48,880
by one for the stage.

2883
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:50,800
So

2884
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:52,960
I'm looking for that under that like I'm

2885
02:30:52,960 --> 02:30:54,880
not maybe that particular name but I see

2886
02:30:54,880 --> 02:30:58,560
detective under this particular one for

2887
02:30:58,560 --> 02:31:00,720
that for the stri under police

2888
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:03,359
>> that's just that would just be under

2889
02:31:03,359 --> 02:31:05,840
investigator sorry I'm using the word

2890
02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:07,120
detective but investigator

2891
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:10,479
>> okay investigate okay and I see thank

2892
02:31:10,479 --> 02:31:11,200
you

2893
02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:15,910
>> any other questions for this section

2894
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:16,960
» well

2895
02:31:16,960 --> 02:31:19,120
M I just want to say just as I did with

2896
02:31:19,120 --> 02:31:20,160
the fire

2897
02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:21,520
>> department. I mean, I appreciate the

2898
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:24,560
grants that you all um bring in

2899
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:26,880
regularly and come to us with uh to

2900
02:31:26,880 --> 02:31:29,439
exact. I appreciate that you do your

2901
02:31:29,439 --> 02:31:31,439
best to try to offset some of those

2902
02:31:31,439 --> 02:31:35,120
expenses to all

2903
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:36,720
the

2904
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,319
investigative

2905
02:31:38,319 --> 02:31:40,319
the uh

2906
02:31:40,319 --> 02:31:44,160
the overtime 750,000

2907
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:47,760
not as target I think as field services.

2908
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:54,469
Okay. our analysis. Uh

2909
02:31:54,479 --> 02:31:58,080
» what was your initial um estimates?

2910
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:00,800
>> 1.1 million. We knocked it down to a

2911
02:32:00,800 --> 02:32:03,680
million after reevaluating

2912
02:32:03,680 --> 02:32:06,720
with the raises.

2913
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:10,399
>> Hopeful hopeful knocks

2914
02:32:10,399 --> 02:32:14,080
major cases like homicides

2915
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:15,920
the realistic number we're looking at is

2916
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:19,270
850.

2917
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:22,880
But um again investigation gives you a

2918
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:24,800
little bit more discretion. Our chief

2919
02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:26,479
has assured us he'll he'll do his best

2920
02:32:26,479 --> 02:32:30,160
to stay within it.

2921
02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:32,319
>> May have not

2922
02:32:32,319 --> 02:32:34,160
for some

2923
02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:43,990
time that uh might be hard to

2924
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,160
» if we had to go to reduced budget line

2925
02:32:46,160 --> 02:32:48,160
there for overtime. We might have to

2926
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:49,920
pick and choose what what we send

2927
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:52,560
detectives in to investigate. um maybe

2928
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:55,280
some burglaries. There's nothing out. We

2929
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:56,800
wouldn't come in and process those

2930
02:32:56,800 --> 02:32:58,800
scenes. You just have to make decisions

2931
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,600
on what we're calling detectives in for

2932
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:03,760
that can't wait till the next day

2933
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:06,160
straight time to answer. But we prefer

2934
02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:09,200
to we prefer to exercise bunches of

2935
02:33:09,200 --> 02:33:11,200
caution on on anything that's a part of

2936
02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:14,640
crime or felony level, but we might have

2937
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:19,990
to make those hard decisions sometimes.

2938
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:21,520
I think there was a question on the

2939
02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:24,560
confidential fund. Was that answer or is

2940
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:30,230
it being

2941
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,200
» wasn't me? I don't think

2942
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:34,800
>> hopefully we'll follow up and make sure

2943
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:35,520
that

2944
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:38,479
>> an answer is provided.

2945
02:33:38,479 --> 02:33:39,520
>> Are there any questions for this

2946
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:42,399
section?

2947
02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:46,399
And now I'm going move to page um

2948
02:33:46,399 --> 02:33:48,000
38

2949
02:33:48,000 --> 02:34:01,910
uh parking

2950
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:07,600
there. We uh remove one IPF2 that's the

2951
02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:19,270
works the window so that we position Any

2952
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:21,439
questions regarding this section

2953
02:34:21,439 --> 02:34:26,870
parking?

2954
02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:30,720
Now we'll move to page uh

2955
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:32,640
page 46

2956
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:37,030
animal control.

2957
02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:38,319
» You said 46.

2958
02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:46,469
>> Yes.

2959
02:34:46,479 --> 02:34:56,070
This one.

2960
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:57,840
» Are we going to have that position or is

2961
02:34:57,840 --> 02:34:59,760
the supervisor going to be taking

2962
02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:04,160
control of? Um, we would love to have

2963
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:10,630
control of position but uh

2964
02:35:10,640 --> 02:35:12,960
it was vacant. So going through the

2965
02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:14,960
budget

2966
02:35:14,960 --> 02:35:20,070
all vacant positions were

2967
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:22,560
taken out there was any funding that

2968
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:24,080
could be found. We would absolutely love

2969
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:25,120
that.

2970
02:35:25,120 --> 02:35:26,640
>> Was a big company?

2971
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:29,359
>> Uh no I think it was six months this

2972
02:35:29,359 --> 02:35:36,950
year. We had somebody

2973
02:35:36,960 --> 02:35:43,040
we did try to hype up a little bit and

2974
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:48,070
not

2975
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:50,319
» so we just have so right now we just

2976
02:35:50,319 --> 02:35:53,840
have the dog control supervisor who does

2977
02:35:53,840 --> 02:35:55,760
the duties of well there's already

2978
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:57,760
supervised um so they do the duties of

2979
02:35:57,760 --> 02:35:59,600
the dog control officer

2980
02:35:59,600 --> 02:36:01,200
She's doing the duties of everything.

2981
02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:03,280
She's absolutely amazing.

2982
02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:04,800
>> Um,

2983
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:07,120
she's awesome. So, she's doing

2984
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:15,510
everything she possibly can.

2985
02:36:15,520 --> 02:36:16,560
» Yeah.

2986
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:19,840
>> Is there any I know Lieutenant works

2987
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:23,280
with human any grants that he can look

2988
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:26,640
into as far as filling that position or

2989
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:29,439
has that I don't know.

2990
02:36:29,439 --> 02:36:38,870
Certainly, but we have been all over.

2991
02:36:38,880 --> 02:36:42,160
» Okay. He's helped us get three different

2992
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:47,670
animals.

2993
02:36:47,680 --> 02:36:51,280
» So, I want to say uh just the other was

2994
02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:53,680
it last week there was a loose dog in my

2995
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:56,080
neighborhood. There was a call made. Um

2996
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:58,160
it's really cute dog. I saw that.

2997
02:36:58,160 --> 02:36:59,439
>> Yeah.

2998
02:36:59,439 --> 02:37:02,160
>> Long story. However, animal control

2999
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:03,760
officer, she was

3000
02:37:03,760 --> 02:37:05,280
>> there right away.

3001
02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:08,479
>> Um and and really gave a lot of good

3002
02:37:08,479 --> 02:37:09,600
information to me and some of my

3003
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:11,520
neighbors of how to proceed, you know,

3004
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:13,280
and what what the options would be and

3005
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:15,120
really what would happen if they had to

3006
02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:16,960
kind of take the dog, which was a little

3007
02:37:16,960 --> 02:37:18,880
scary and a whole another situation. But

3008
02:37:18,880 --> 02:37:24,000
I guess I remember us talking about and maybe I'm conflating two things. Um

3009
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:25,680
so forgive me if I am, but we talked

3010
02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:27,520
about

3011
02:37:27,520 --> 02:37:30,319
There were some funds that we were for

3012
02:37:30,319 --> 02:37:32,000
maybe lack of a better term maybe

3013
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:35,600
reallocating for another

3014
02:37:35,600 --> 02:37:37,200
animal shelter if you will. there was

3015
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:39,120
like some cost efficiency things that

3016
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:42,160
were happening there and is then that

3017
02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:45,680
wasn't related to uh to staffing or was

3018
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:49,190
that just for

3019
02:37:49,200 --> 02:37:52,560
» currently right now we have

3020
02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:55,520
uh the council approved $150,000 two

3021
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:58,160
years ago for capital funds for

3022
02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:01,840
renovation support for shelter

3023
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:04,240
>> and then we received a grant for

3024
02:38:04,240 --> 02:38:07,040
$200,000 that council accepted to

3025
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:08,720
renovate

3026
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:10,640
new animal shelter. So we have a total

3027
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:14,160
of $350,000 for animal shelter

3028
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:19,520
>> that now we're working on they wanted to

3029
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:21,840
rent one we have now

3030
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:23,600
>> with the new standards that are coming

3031
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:26,240
out I believe it's the end of this year

3032
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:29,120
the one we have now would be not

3033
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:31,200
suitable for the new standards.

3034
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:33,840
>> Okay. So working on getting our grant

3035
02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:36,640
modified in order to build a new one.

3036
02:38:36,640 --> 02:38:38,560
There was a lot of hiccups in that

3037
02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:40,319
process, but we're working on the final

3038
02:38:40,319 --> 02:38:42,640
paperwork now and we're working on

3039
02:38:42,640 --> 02:38:46,000
building a new one on city property as

3040
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:47,920
well next to the old one.

3041
02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:48,720
>> Okay.

3042
02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:51,359
>> So that would take care of building a

3043
02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:53,760
new shelter, but that would still we

3044
02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:55,680
still have a partnership with Mohawk

3045
02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:57,920
Hudson we have now.

3046
02:38:57,920 --> 02:38:59,520
>> And the idea would be that they'd be

3047
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:02,080
able to help

3048
02:39:02,080 --> 02:39:05,760
host some classes and things for some

3049
02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:08,560
residents and then have some volunteers

3050
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:10,080
come up and help with the animals things

3051
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:11,920
like that.

3052
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:12,640
That's what the

3053
02:39:12,640 --> 02:39:12,960
>> Yeah,

3054
02:39:12,960 --> 02:39:16,240
>> that's what the the grand plan would be.

3055
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:19,760
They would be out patrolling they would

3056
02:39:19,760 --> 02:39:21,280
be able to we'd be able to bring the

3057
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:23,040
animals to here instead bring them out

3058
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:26,399
to the volunteers be able to bring them

3059
02:39:26,399 --> 02:39:28,640
back to the hose.

3060
02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:30,560
So we don't have to do that right now.

3061
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:38,710
If we bring pick a then the accompan

3062
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:41,600
so she's out of city.

3063
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:45,200
>> Okay. So the $150,000 that we approved

3064
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:47,040
outside of the grant. Was that matching

3065
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:48,560
funds for the grant or that was?

3066
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:50,479
>> So we are going to be using that. So it

3067
02:39:50,479 --> 02:39:52,000
wasn't you guys actually approved that

3068
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:54,960
before we got the money that that was

3069
02:39:54,960 --> 02:39:58,000
before my time in the in the position I

3070
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:00,160
was in. It was to

3071
02:40:00,160 --> 02:40:03,280
uh make some adjustments to the down

3072
02:40:03,280 --> 02:40:06,160
there and still operate what was down

3073
02:40:06,160 --> 02:40:09,840
there. I should be going down there.

3074
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:13,349
>> Yeah.

3075
02:40:13,359 --> 02:40:15,840
» And then

3076
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,280
the grant to get these nicer but there's

3077
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:23,040
some air quality standards.

3078
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:26,000
There's been some talk around

3079
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:30,319
this new articles and things like that

3080
02:40:30,319 --> 02:40:33,600
now the one we have now it's going to be

3081
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:36,319
very very expens so the new one's going

3082
02:40:36,319 --> 02:40:37,120
to be cheaper.

3083
02:40:37,120 --> 02:40:40,319
>> Sure. So I guess I'm just wondering that

3084
02:40:40,319 --> 02:40:41,600
seems like that's something that's a

3085
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:43,680
little down the line at best. Would it

3086
02:40:43,680 --> 02:40:47,040
be that $150,000 that we allocate that

3087
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:49,200
we allocated for for the use of that

3088
02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:52,479
purpose? Would it be more beneficial to

3089
02:40:52,479 --> 02:40:55,280
the larger community to maybe reallocate

3090
02:40:55,280 --> 02:40:58,960
that $150,000 to bring on a second um

3091
02:40:58,960 --> 02:41:04,550
officer in between in the meantime

3092
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:05,439
is also matching

3093
02:41:05,439 --> 02:41:09,429
>> funds

3094
02:41:09,439 --> 02:41:14,160
for this grant paperwork completed um

3095
02:41:14,160 --> 02:41:16,560
the you know would actually have to be

3096
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,920
completed I believe it's by September

3097
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:21,680
next year.

3098
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:23,840
So it's not completed by

3099
02:41:23,840 --> 02:41:26,960
>> Okay. So expectated timeline. All right.

3100
02:41:26,960 --> 02:41:27,760
Thank you.

3101
02:41:27,760 --> 02:41:29,520
>> Thank you.

3102
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:32,479
>> So I found myself thinking about um

3103
02:41:32,479 --> 02:41:34,160
military years and I was a newly

3104
02:41:34,160 --> 02:41:36,399
commissioned officer. Bear with me. Um

3105
02:41:36,399 --> 02:41:39,280
one thing they told you not to do is not

3106
02:41:39,280 --> 02:41:42,479
to be the idea fairy. Just throwing out

3107
02:41:42,479 --> 02:41:44,160
ideas. So I can only imagine what it was

3108
02:41:44,160 --> 02:41:48,479
like to hear just our good intention

3109
02:41:48,479 --> 02:41:50,880
just recommendations to you all about

3110
02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:53,600
and that good uh is there any ability to

3111
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:55,840
have a perspective like I can count on

3112
02:41:55,840 --> 02:41:58,000
my hand if individuals

3113
02:41:58,000 --> 02:41:59,840
that part

3114
02:41:59,840 --> 02:42:03,439
of like um training and dealing with

3115
02:42:03,439 --> 02:42:05,920
dogs or what have you. Is there any

3116
02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:09,200
ability to guess deputize them or use

3117
02:42:09,200 --> 02:42:10,960
their services without having to bring

3118
02:42:10,960 --> 02:42:12,640
on a full-time individual with the help

3119
02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:15,920
of that on the supervising?

3120
02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:18,160
>> Um, that would be a question for the the

3121
02:42:18,160 --> 02:42:21,680
CSA also because there' be a union

3122
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:23,600
issues

3123
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:26,960
and possible some liability for workers

3124
02:42:26,960 --> 02:42:29,040
comp and some other things. We've had

3125
02:42:29,040 --> 02:42:31,040
several ACOs

3126
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:33,920
previously. Our current one now is she's

3127
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:35,439
been briefed but

3128
02:42:35,439 --> 02:42:38,399
something that

3129
02:42:38,399 --> 02:42:42,800
said work for a while. So there's but it

3130
02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:46,560
is a good idea if it works out. Um, so

3131
02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:48,319
if it is possible and somebody's willing

3132
02:42:48,319 --> 02:42:50,240
to do that kind of work at no charge or

3133
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:57,590
something like that that

3134
02:42:57,600 --> 02:42:59,680
we did have a part time we did have a

3135
02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:02,960
part-time officer or one for a little

3136
02:43:02,960 --> 02:43:05,840
while gotten

3137
02:43:05,840 --> 02:43:09,840
we had very minimal salary in that um

3138
02:43:09,840 --> 02:43:12,880
and through the see it through the union

3139
02:43:12,880 --> 02:43:15,600
that we had to offer anything to the

3140
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:18,720
full-time officer first before you go to

3141
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:20,399
part time. So there was

3142
02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:21,760
>> if they needed something, it had to go

3143
02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:23,920
to them first before going to part time.

3144
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:26,240
So that's something just we have to work

3145
02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:29,200
around or have to discuss with the CCA.

3146
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:31,520
We're doing that. But if that was a

3147
02:43:31,520 --> 02:43:33,439
discussion of we're going to have these

3148
02:43:33,439 --> 02:43:36,000
part time, we're able to have more. I

3149
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:37,520
think the current one would be more than

3150
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:40,160
happy to work with somebody just to have

3151
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:43,520
more hands on deck.

3152
02:43:43,520 --> 02:43:46,080
>> Go ahead. last question or statement

3153
02:43:46,080 --> 02:43:47,359
around this. I mean there's nothing

3154
02:43:47,359 --> 02:43:48,800
>> and clearly my ideas were better than

3155
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:51,040
Mr. Williams so we don't have to that's

3156
02:43:51,040 --> 02:43:52,720
just nothing need to be said but I

3157
02:43:52,720 --> 02:43:55,680
thought we should note that um so is a

3158
02:43:55,680 --> 02:43:58,960
way to work with like I you know in this

3159
02:43:58,960 --> 02:44:00,399
recent situation looking at like working

3160
02:44:00,399 --> 02:44:03,920
with like there's like rescues like like

3161
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:06,479
you know nonprofits actually 501c3s who

3162
02:44:06,479 --> 02:44:09,840
are like that's their thing to do that

3163
02:44:09,840 --> 02:44:11,760
you know to come you know get animals.

3164
02:44:11,760 --> 02:44:15,840
Is there a way for the city to do it to

3165
02:44:15,840 --> 02:44:18,399
partner with them but avoiding you know

3166
02:44:18,399 --> 02:44:20,560
um significant liability being that that

3167
02:44:20,560 --> 02:44:24,240
would be who you know if I'm calling

3168
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:26,960
animal rescue for animal then you know

3169
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:30,319
maybe like that officer says oh well you

3170
02:44:30,319 --> 02:44:32,960
can also make this call to this agency

3171
02:44:32,960 --> 02:44:35,600
and they do that like was that is there

3172
02:44:35,600 --> 02:44:37,040
a way to do because I feel like that's

3173
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:40,319
one area where we and maybe I'm just I

3174
02:44:40,319 --> 02:44:43,600
could be wrong about this but there's a lot of interest in people that

3175
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:46,960
are willing to, you know, kind of yes,

3176
02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:48,399
donate their time, but also like there's

3177
02:44:48,399 --> 02:44:50,240
like 501c3s that actually do that.

3178
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:52,399
>> So, there might be, but I know a lot of

3179
02:44:52,399 --> 02:44:54,960
times there's a lot of them are full, a

3180
02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:57,200
lot of people that are always reaching

3181
02:44:57,200 --> 02:44:58,960
out to us. I mean, I'm part of the email

3182
02:44:58,960 --> 02:45:02,160
chain that there's always too many

3183
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:04,319
animals places. So, I was looking all

3184
02:45:04,319 --> 02:45:06,720
these foundations and places that are

3185
02:45:06,720 --> 02:45:07,840
willing to go do the work. They're

3186
02:45:07,840 --> 02:45:10,560
always find trying to find places like

3187
02:45:10,560 --> 02:45:12,160
put the animals places.

3188
02:45:12,160 --> 02:45:16,240
>> Um and then once I believe the city is

3189
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:19,040
could be run the city is liable to we

3190
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:21,040
have to house the dog for we have to

3191
02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:24,080
keep the dog in certain amount of days.

3192
02:45:24,080 --> 02:45:26,640
So if we lose dog we find it we have to

3193
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,000
keep them for 5 days

3194
02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:29,680
>> specific protocols that's why we have

3195
02:45:29,680 --> 02:45:30,640
the relationship with

3196
02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:32,080
>> Mohawk

3197
02:45:32,080 --> 02:45:35,760
>> which is the best financial

3198
02:45:35,760 --> 02:45:38,640
shot around

3199
02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:41,840
it applies primarily to dogs. If you

3200
02:45:41,840 --> 02:45:46,720
have raccoons, other uh squirrels, other

3201
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:49,920
times come in for other animals. There

3202
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:52,319
are different

3203
02:45:52,319 --> 02:45:55,920
uh agencies and groups that will rehab

3204
02:45:55,920 --> 02:45:58,880
or take those that we don't have the

3205
02:45:58,880 --> 02:46:02,399
same responsibility. So they can go from

3206
02:46:02,399 --> 02:46:05,279
the enablement finding

3207
02:46:05,279 --> 02:46:08,960
cats and dogs have probably the biggest

3208
02:46:08,960 --> 02:46:12,240
support network and we primarily focus

3209
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:15,120
on dogs and a lot of it's just educating

3210
02:46:15,120 --> 02:46:16,640
people to make sure the dogs are

3211
02:46:16,640 --> 02:46:19,680
licensed. People are playing by the

3212
02:46:19,680 --> 02:46:23,760
rules so that when they do get loose or

3213
02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:25,920
people find them they're easily

3214
02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:28,800
identifiable. that can be uh either

3215
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:30,880
scanned through a chip or their tag is

3216
02:46:30,880 --> 02:46:32,560
on them so that they can be quickly

3217
02:46:32,560 --> 02:46:35,760
returned to their owner as opposed to

3218
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:39,920
having to house them Hudson

3219
02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:43,120
the people down and uh you know it ends

3220
02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:45,760
up being an expensive process.

3221
02:46:45,760 --> 02:46:49,359
There are some people who

3222
02:46:49,359 --> 02:46:51,359
landlords and property owners probably

3223
02:46:51,359 --> 02:46:54,160
shouldn't own pets

3224
02:46:54,160 --> 02:46:58,960
in you know control officers in there

3225
02:46:58,960 --> 02:47:03,590
use less than ideal conditions

3226
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:06,640
dangerous dogs some cases that go to

3227
02:47:06,640 --> 02:47:08,160
trial

3228
02:47:08,160 --> 02:47:11,120
and those begin to become

3229
02:47:11,120 --> 02:47:13,200
time consuming and expensive when the

3230
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:18,479
dogs have to be house for

3231
02:47:18,479 --> 02:47:20,800
she's talking about five days sometimes

3232
02:47:20,800 --> 02:47:22,960
comes longer periods of time because of

3233
02:47:22,960 --> 02:47:25,120
the courts

3234
02:47:25,120 --> 02:47:27,120
can go for two months sometimes and the

3235
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:29,439
only thing I would

3236
02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:32,240
have

3237
02:47:32,240 --> 02:47:34,399
agreements again for

3238
02:47:34,399 --> 02:47:37,359
somebody else come up and do their work

3239
02:47:37,359 --> 02:47:39,040
something else

3240
02:47:39,040 --> 02:47:40,720
>> yeah I was going to ask that question

3241
02:47:40,720 --> 02:47:43,200
because how I understand it animal

3242
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:46,319
cruelty isn't nec necessarily to be

3243
02:47:46,319 --> 02:47:50,800
handled by the uh animal officer like

3244
02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:52,640
that like that animal cruelty is a

3245
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:55,439
crime. So that's not

3246
02:47:55,439 --> 02:47:57,439
that type of investigation things will

3247
02:47:57,439 --> 02:47:59,920
come out of what the general whatever

3248
02:47:59,920 --> 02:48:02,800
the larger expenses are the same same

3249
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:04,560
way right like there there's not like a

3250
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:09,920
>> they'll assist in

3251
02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:13,200
>> okay SPCA

3252
02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:18,469
that

3253
02:48:18,479 --> 02:48:19,279
» go ahead please

3254
02:48:19,279 --> 02:48:21,120
>> just as a side not there's wildlife

3255
02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:24,160
rehabilitators Um, mama Posum was in my

3256
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:26,479
yard and she ran and left like five of

3257
02:48:26,479 --> 02:48:29,120
her babies and my daughter Googled this

3258
02:48:29,120 --> 02:48:31,920
rehabilitator and she actually lives in

3259
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:34,319
Radan. She took all the babies and she

3260
02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:35,760
has to raise them till they're three

3261
02:48:35,760 --> 02:48:37,840
pounds in her kitchen. So different

3262
02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:40,240
Yeah. And she had So there are people

3263
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:42,479
out there who just have a place only in

3264
02:48:42,479 --> 02:48:43,600
my house.

3265
02:48:43,600 --> 02:48:44,560
>> Seriously? Yeah.

3266
02:48:44,560 --> 02:48:45,359
>> Why your house?

3267
02:48:45,359 --> 02:48:49,040
>> For no money. I mean we did I do for a

3268
02:48:49,040 --> 02:48:51,279
nice donation but there are individuals

3269
02:48:51,279 --> 02:48:53,120
that do that out there right in our

3270
02:48:53,120 --> 02:48:55,040
area.

3271
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:57,200
>> All right any other question for this

3272
02:48:57,200 --> 02:48:57,920
section?

3273
02:48:57,920 --> 02:48:59,279
>> I don't have any questions but I think

3274
02:48:59,279 --> 02:49:01,760
that know based on this conversation

3275
02:49:01,760 --> 02:49:04,560
that just happened around all that stuff

3276
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:05,920
there might be an opportunity for you

3277
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:08,240
all to come just explain all that you

3278
02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:08,960
know

3279
02:49:08,960 --> 02:49:11,120
>> the opportunities the because I didn't

3280
02:49:11,120 --> 02:49:12,479
know about if you had a chair you could

3281
02:49:12,479 --> 02:49:14,080
get your dog back and all that stuff. So

3282
02:49:14,080 --> 02:49:15,279
I think an opportunity that's not a

3283
02:49:15,279 --> 02:49:17,760
budget session would be nice to have to

3284
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:19,840
know all that information. So thank you

3285
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:22,240
for that.

3286
02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:24,000
>> All right, we'll move on. Since we on

3287
02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:26,319
this page, we'll just uh complete the

3288
02:49:26,319 --> 02:49:33,030
police review board

3289
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:41,510
» and that is going down to $10,000 from

3290
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,160
any question regarding that and then

3291
02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:47,200
we'll move into since we have

3292
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:50,800
chief here we'll go into the capital

3293
02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:54,560
project budget that so they completely

3294
02:49:54,560 --> 02:49:57,680
>> pull it apart.

3295
02:49:57,680 --> 02:49:58,880
>> So I do have a question about the

3296
02:49:58,880 --> 02:49:59,760
10,000.

3297
02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:01,359
>> Go ahead please.

3298
02:50:01,359 --> 02:50:04,080
>> Uh so that is to send

3299
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:06,319
people in training. Is that correct?

3300
02:50:06,319 --> 02:50:08,399
>> So we actually

3301
02:50:08,399 --> 02:50:15,269
are independent. So actually no

3302
02:50:15,279 --> 02:50:28,630
ask let's ask for a commissioner.

3303
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:31,120
some of the um

3304
02:50:31,120 --> 02:50:33,200
items.

3305
02:50:33,200 --> 02:50:35,840
They showed off their

3306
02:50:35,840 --> 02:50:46,950
little tablecloth and otherwise

3307
02:50:46,960 --> 02:50:49,279
for more fun. And how much do they spend

3308
02:50:49,279 --> 02:50:50,479
for training this year? Because I know

3309
02:50:50,479 --> 02:50:50,800
they sent

3310
02:50:50,800 --> 02:50:52,560
>> people

3311
02:50:52,560 --> 02:50:54,800
historically if you look it's under

3312
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:57,600
$4,000.

3313
02:50:57,600 --> 02:50:59,359
>> I know historically spend they've been

3314
02:50:59,359 --> 02:51:10,389
more mindful but to find out that they

3315
02:51:10,399 --> 02:51:12,479
think I think it's different people

3316
02:51:12,479 --> 02:51:14,640
every year. They've been trying to um

3317
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:16,160
circulate through the people so that

3318
02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:18,560
they don't send the same people so that

3319
02:51:18,560 --> 02:52:05,190
they're trying to get everybody trained.

3320
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:06,960
It's not these

3321
02:52:06,960 --> 02:52:11,670
No, that is a

3322
02:52:11,680 --> 02:52:16,319
» doesn't want to leave because

3323
02:52:16,319 --> 02:52:18,240
it

3324
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:19,760
>> has it there.

3325
02:52:19,760 --> 02:52:21,439
>> We all have an actual sheet so we can

3326
02:52:21,439 --> 02:52:22,560
look it up.

3327
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:25,200
>> I did find it. It says, well, year to

3328
02:52:25,200 --> 02:52:27,920
date actual ads of September 30th was

3329
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:30,560
$500. So, we

3330
02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:32,720
>> maybe they haven't maybe those bills

3331
02:52:32,720 --> 02:52:33,680
haven't come in yet or something.

3332
02:52:33,680 --> 02:52:35,760
>> I would say possibly

3333
02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:38,640
>> I would say because I know we get to go

3334
02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:42,319
on a hotel and all that stuff.

3335
02:52:42,319 --> 02:52:47,200
>> So, I know that that can't be.

3336
02:52:47,200 --> 02:52:47,600
>> All right.

3337
02:52:47,600 --> 02:52:49,279
>> So, can we follow up on that? Make sure

3338
02:52:49,279 --> 02:52:50,560
that we have the actual

3339
02:52:50,560 --> 02:53:03,750
>> Absolutely. So let's take

3340
02:53:03,760 --> 02:53:08,000
Okay, we'll move into um capital project

3341
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:09,920
and we'll go to the police department

3342
02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:13,990
section.

3343
02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:19,990
If you want to walk us through this

3344
02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:24,399
» two items first vehicles three SUVs

3345
02:53:24,399 --> 02:53:26,479
which would be regular frontline

3346
02:53:26,479 --> 02:53:28,240
vehicles

3347
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,399
on marked car which are protected

3348
02:53:30,399 --> 02:53:36,630
vehicles one parking

3349
02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:37,439
beautiful

3350
02:53:37,439 --> 02:53:39,200
>> what type of SUV

3351
02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:42,479
>> we do four hybrid SUVs with the quarter

3352
02:53:42,479 --> 02:53:45,279
developers.

3353
02:53:45,279 --> 02:53:46,640
>> Okay.

3354
02:53:46,640 --> 02:53:51,120
>> The unmarked cars. Um

3355
02:53:51,120 --> 02:53:53,439
we're using the Chevy.

3356
02:53:53,439 --> 02:53:54,160
>> Okay.

3357
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:58,240
>> And then the parking be

3358
02:53:58,240 --> 02:54:00,240
next year supposed to be the Chevy Bolt

3359
02:54:00,240 --> 02:54:01,520
is supposed to be back again, which

3360
02:54:01,520 --> 02:54:04,880
right now we have um two of those in

3361
02:54:04,880 --> 02:54:06,560
2026.

3362
02:54:06,560 --> 02:54:09,600
Making that again. And that's a nice car

3363
02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:12,319
for parking. It's a very an inexpensive

3364
02:54:12,319 --> 02:54:14,560
electric vehicle. So for that

3365
02:54:14,560 --> 02:54:18,080
>> and then the evidence uh is also a

3366
02:54:18,080 --> 02:54:22,950
hybrid explorer.

3367
02:54:22,960 --> 02:54:24,720
» Any question regarding these capital

3368
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:29,910
project items?

3369
02:54:29,920 --> 02:54:32,080
» Do we do any kind of rebate or refunds

3370
02:54:32,080 --> 02:54:34,720
or trade in for the older cars or what?

3371
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:38,000
Um historically we not recommend them

3372
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:41,840
into the we do auction off. I'm not sure

3373
02:54:41,840 --> 02:54:43,359
um

3374
02:54:43,359 --> 02:54:47,600
if we did have a bunch down um on still

3375
02:54:47,600 --> 02:54:49,200
there

3376
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:50,479
and they end up in the budget and

3377
02:54:50,479 --> 02:54:54,080
there's a budget line for

3378
02:54:54,080 --> 02:54:57,520
not our budget but

3379
02:54:57,520 --> 02:55:03,030
>> there are several

3380
02:55:03,040 --> 02:55:07,510
evidence.

3381
02:55:07,520 --> 02:55:09,760
» Sure. Um as I mentioned earlier we have

3382
02:55:09,760 --> 02:55:10,960
evidence

3383
02:55:10,960 --> 02:55:15,920
prices going on. This would be um

3384
02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:18,160
those shipping containers,

3385
02:55:18,160 --> 02:55:20,000
fancy one, one that has temperature

3386
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:24,240
control that we put evidence in it. Um

3387
02:55:24,240 --> 02:55:27,279
our highest priority is frozen evidence.

3388
02:55:27,279 --> 02:55:29,120
um

3389
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:31,600
DNA rape kits that we right now we

3390
02:55:31,600 --> 02:55:35,200
brought nine industrial

3391
02:55:35,200 --> 02:55:38,160
freezers in our basement

3392
02:55:38,160 --> 02:55:41,680
from $1,000 each.

3393
02:55:41,680 --> 02:55:43,279
The idea would be to get a box truck

3394
02:55:43,279 --> 02:55:45,359
that's refrigerated that we put all that

3395
02:55:45,359 --> 02:55:48,880
evidence in get those nine refrigerators

3396
02:55:48,880 --> 02:55:51,040
that use a lot of energy out of our

3397
02:55:51,040 --> 02:55:52,399
basement. They also create a lot of

3398
02:55:52,399 --> 02:55:56,080
heat. um and put that benefits in there.

3399
02:55:56,080 --> 02:55:58,960
And then, you know, from a perspective,

3400
02:55:58,960 --> 02:56:02,000
so longer term solution would be to

3401
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:04,080
potentially get a temperature controlled

3402
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:06,640
one or evidence that we currently keep

3403
02:56:06,640 --> 02:56:11,760
in a garage that we would be using for

3404
02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:13,840
our motorcycles and bicycles and all

3405
02:56:13,840 --> 02:56:16,960
that stuff instead of sharing our sal

3406
02:56:16,960 --> 02:56:18,160
there. So,

3407
02:56:18,160 --> 02:56:20,000
>> more of a longer term solution, but this

3408
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:27,349
will be the first step for that. Any

3409
02:56:27,359 --> 02:56:30,080
other questions?

3410
02:56:30,080 --> 02:56:33,200
>> Thank you for a wonderful presentation

3411
02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:36,160
always.

3412
02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:37,600
You can sit with us and have the rest of

3413
02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:43,190
the fun.

3414
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:44,960
I'm requesting that we take a a couple

3415
02:56:44,960 --> 02:56:47,920
minutes break and then we'll get back to

3416
02:56:47,920 --> 02:56:50,080
>> Thank you.

3417
02:56:50,080 --> 02:57:08,870
Yeah.

3418
02:57:08,880 --> 02:57:16,150
» We're taking a break.

3419
02:57:16,160 --> 03:16:25,510
Is that

3420
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:39,110
I did. Thank you. Thanks.

3421
03:16:39,120 --> 03:16:55,910
» That's going to be Chris.

3422
03:16:55,920 --> 03:17:00,389
Yes.

3423
03:17:00,399 --> 03:17:15,030
» Yes. Yeah. Then we'll go to

3424
03:17:15,040 --> 03:17:18,309
Wherever.

3425
03:17:18,319 --> 03:17:22,229
» Oh,

3426
03:17:22,239 --> 03:17:23,760
she

3427
03:17:23,760 --> 03:17:25,120
>> she's just taking

3428
03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:30,870
>> Yes.

3429
03:17:30,880 --> 03:17:35,510
We're going to start on page 25.

3430
03:17:35,520 --> 03:17:37,600
Coffee management staff building and

3431
03:17:37,600 --> 03:17:53,750
grants.

3432
03:17:53,760 --> 03:17:56,399
» Oh yes, let's do that. We missed the

3433
03:17:56,399 --> 03:17:59,520
capital for the fire department and they

3434
03:17:59,520 --> 03:18:02,080
have one item

3435
03:18:02,080 --> 03:18:05,439
commission for that one item which is

3436
03:18:05,439 --> 03:18:07,920
the rescue

3437
03:18:07,920 --> 03:18:23,110
vehicle.

3438
03:18:23,120 --> 03:18:42,870
Thank you.

3439
03:18:42,880 --> 03:18:43,760
Yes. Ready?

3440
03:18:43,760 --> 03:18:45,279
>> Yes. Go ahead, please.

3441
03:18:45,279 --> 03:18:47,680
>> Um, so there's one fire deployment

3442
03:18:47,680 --> 03:18:49,920
capital request. It's for a fire

3443
03:18:49,920 --> 03:18:52,319
department rescue vehicle. uh cost is

3444
03:18:52,319 --> 03:18:55,510
$250,000.

3445
03:18:55,520 --> 03:18:57,760
The description have here is the rescue

3446
03:18:57,760 --> 03:19:00,000
one is the top five busiest life support

3447
03:19:00,000 --> 03:19:01,920
vehicles

3448
03:19:01,920 --> 03:19:04,479
approximately 6,000 incidents per year.

3449
03:19:04,479 --> 03:19:06,479
In 2019, the current rescue one was

3450
03:19:06,479 --> 03:19:08,080
built at the current for six years. This

3451
03:19:08,080 --> 03:19:09,920
vehicle service has responded to

3452
03:19:09,920 --> 03:19:11,520
approximately 36,000 incidents

3453
03:19:11,520 --> 03:19:13,439
throughout the city. Rescue one is the

3454
03:19:13,439 --> 03:19:15,760
most visible fires in the city both

3455
03:19:15,760 --> 03:19:18,239
residents and visitors.

3456
03:19:18,239 --> 03:19:20,080
In addition to responding to emergency

3457
03:19:20,080 --> 03:19:21,439
incidents throughout the city including

3458
03:19:21,439 --> 03:19:24,560
but not limited medical fires assistance

3459
03:19:24,560 --> 03:19:26,080
NBC's

3460
03:19:26,080 --> 03:19:28,080
homicide and special hazards rescue

3461
03:19:28,080 --> 03:19:30,560
apparas are also they showcase at events

3462
03:19:30,560 --> 03:19:32,880
like summer nights running events at

3463
03:19:32,880 --> 03:19:36,319
central park and other detail requested

3464
03:19:36,319 --> 03:19:37,760
the car and rescue one will replace the

3465
03:19:37,760 --> 03:19:40,080
current rescue 3 which is now 10 years

3466
03:19:40,080 --> 03:19:41,040
old.

3467
03:19:41,040 --> 03:19:43,120
3 will be used as a return for meetings

3468
03:19:43,120 --> 03:19:47,349
and other detail that's needed.

3469
03:19:47,359 --> 03:19:53,910
» Are there any questions regarding this?

3470
03:19:53,920 --> 03:19:58,000
» Sorry miss additional question we can

3471
03:19:58,000 --> 03:19:59,760
chief

3472
03:19:59,760 --> 03:20:01,920
provide answer.

3473
03:20:01,920 --> 03:20:05,520
>> Okay. Page 25 property management staff

3474
03:20:05,520 --> 03:20:07,920
buildings and drawings.

3475
03:20:07,920 --> 03:20:11,359
D, you just want to give us a

3476
03:20:11,359 --> 03:20:14,239
these are multiple departments.

3477
03:20:14,239 --> 03:20:18,880
Oh, do you want Okay. Um, I can just run

3478
03:20:18,880 --> 03:20:21,279
off general services and give the brief

3479
03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:23,680
description and then I guess maybe one

3480
03:20:23,680 --> 03:20:25,520
at a time.

3481
03:20:25,520 --> 03:20:30,389
>> Yeah, let's do one.

3482
03:20:30,399 --> 03:20:32,800
» Absolutely. Uh for property management

3483
03:20:32,800 --> 03:20:34,640
1621

3484
03:20:34,640 --> 03:20:36,640
uh the total property management by

3485
03:20:36,640 --> 03:20:38,560
14.515%

3486
03:20:38,560 --> 03:20:40,080
from 1.2

3487
03:20:40,080 --> 03:20:42,160
million

3488
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:45,520
approximately 154,450

3489
03:20:45,520 --> 03:20:51,269
decreased uh mobile

3490
03:20:51,279 --> 03:20:53,920
to

3491
03:20:53,920 --> 03:20:55,840
make

3492
03:20:55,840 --> 03:21:03,269
for anis.

3493
03:21:03,279 --> 03:21:05,760
just want to give us a snapshot of

3494
03:21:05,760 --> 03:21:07,279
what's happening within this department

3495
03:21:07,279 --> 03:21:10,239
and address

3496
03:21:10,239 --> 03:21:13,200
>> yeah the administrative size we maintain

3497
03:21:13,200 --> 03:21:16,239
the same number of nuisance officers the

3498
03:21:16,239 --> 03:21:18,720
um three nuisance inspectors the one

3499
03:21:18,720 --> 03:21:20,720
senior nuisance inspector and the

3500
03:21:20,720 --> 03:21:23,760
working crew leader um the rail actually

3501
03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:26,960
the um the snap crew

3502
03:21:26,960 --> 03:21:29,920
property management crew um under the

3503
03:21:29,920 --> 03:21:34,399
per employees um we have one person uh

3504
03:21:34,399 --> 03:21:37,120
leave and we're holding ourselves with

3505
03:21:37,120 --> 03:21:39,680
two carpenters now from last year's

3506
03:21:39,680 --> 03:21:43,359
three um or we're

3507
03:21:43,359 --> 03:21:45,200
going to be very minimal impact with the

3508
03:21:45,200 --> 03:21:49,439
carpenter with one carpenter. Um

3509
03:21:49,439 --> 03:21:52,479
the seasonal labor lawyers um seasonal

3510
03:21:52,479 --> 03:21:54,239
labor

3511
03:21:54,239 --> 03:21:59,439
$75,000 was reduced uh 256,240

3512
03:21:59,439 --> 03:22:02,080
to more reflect the need of the SNAP in

3513
03:22:02,080 --> 03:22:07,120
the past we had various under the 121

3514
03:22:07,120 --> 03:22:10,479
and we had labor temporary for $70,000

3515
03:22:10,479 --> 03:22:12,000
and

3516
03:22:12,000 --> 03:22:14,880
you recall when I was here the waste

3517
03:22:14,880 --> 03:22:17,120
some of the seasonal for being paid out

3518
03:22:17,120 --> 03:22:19,680
of the snap line. They just happen to

3519
03:22:19,680 --> 03:22:21,760
bunch the seasonals there. So we can

3520
03:22:21,760 --> 03:22:24,080
move those to waste to reflect actual

3521
03:22:24,080 --> 03:22:26,800
costs and waste because we do run 14

3522
03:22:26,800 --> 03:22:29,600
seasons in waste.

3523
03:22:29,600 --> 03:22:31,359
Those some of the money was transferred

3524
03:22:31,359 --> 03:22:34,479
over the waste. Um motor equipment

3525
03:22:34,479 --> 03:22:40,319
operators did go from a six to five

3526
03:22:40,319 --> 03:22:41,760
was a permanent position but it is

3527
03:22:41,760 --> 03:22:44,800
vacant now. So it

3528
03:22:44,800 --> 03:22:46,479
I don't feel there'll be any impact. We

3529
03:22:46,479 --> 03:22:49,520
do have seasonal but that's a decision

3530
03:22:49,520 --> 03:22:51,279
of I think that was one of the question

3531
03:22:51,279 --> 03:22:53,920
decision of finance and you you want to

3532
03:22:53,920 --> 03:22:58,469
put that back.

3533
03:22:58,479 --> 03:23:02,239
» I have a question regarding that that we're talking about that particular

3534
03:23:02,239 --> 03:23:04,560
one. So you said it was vacant and was

3535
03:23:04,560 --> 03:23:06,800
it um because someone left it was just

3536
03:23:06,800 --> 03:23:08,319
been vacant for a long time. How long's

3537
03:23:08,319 --> 03:23:10,640
that vacancy been?

3538
03:23:10,640 --> 03:23:13,200
there a while. We do try to

3539
03:23:13,200 --> 03:23:16,000
keep a vacancy within some department.

3540
03:23:16,000 --> 03:23:17,840
We do have a program where people are

3541
03:23:17,840 --> 03:23:21,750
seasoning

3542
03:23:21,760 --> 03:23:26,399
their permit for CDL. Um and we do find

3543
03:23:26,399 --> 03:23:30,640
education um for the EDU uh to get their

3544
03:23:30,640 --> 03:23:32,399
license and get their test. We give them

3545
03:23:32,399 --> 03:23:35,439
the vehicle to take their test and we

3546
03:23:35,439 --> 03:23:37,520
have you know openings various openings

3547
03:23:37,520 --> 03:23:40,239
and still ways for me. So, it does give

3548
03:23:40,239 --> 03:23:43,359
them an opportunity uh to move up. We've

3549
03:23:43,359 --> 03:23:44,640
had a couple people go through the

3550
03:23:44,640 --> 03:23:48,800
program um and we have people who are

3551
03:23:48,800 --> 03:23:51,120
they're content what they do. They don't

3552
03:23:51,120 --> 03:23:52,720
want to for whatever reason they don't

3553
03:23:52,720 --> 03:23:55,760
want to move up to get that license.

3554
03:23:55,760 --> 03:23:57,600
>> So, it's been a vacant for a while and

3555
03:23:57,600 --> 03:23:59,200
you didn't there was some anticipation

3556
03:23:59,200 --> 03:24:01,040
that you said that some people do take

3557
03:24:01,040 --> 03:24:02,880
it and then move up but that has not

3558
03:24:02,880 --> 03:24:04,720
happened in this particular department.

3559
03:24:04,720 --> 03:24:06,880
>> There is a person who took his license

3560
03:24:06,880 --> 03:24:10,000
in that department. Um get his license

3561
03:24:10,000 --> 03:24:12,640
and Chris and I are evaluating because

3562
03:24:12,640 --> 03:24:15,760
some employees when we don't know if

3563
03:24:15,760 --> 03:24:17,840
they're quite ready they still don't

3564
03:24:17,840 --> 03:24:20,479
show off the work.

3565
03:24:20,479 --> 03:24:22,560
>> So if you want to be more specific about

3566
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:24,640
certain things and we would do executive

3567
03:24:24,640 --> 03:24:28,239
sessions because um just getting your

3568
03:24:28,239 --> 03:24:29,920
license doesn't qualify you become a

3569
03:24:29,920 --> 03:24:31,760
permanent full-time employee. There's

3570
03:24:31,760 --> 03:24:34,319
more to that. There's work ethics and

3571
03:24:34,319 --> 03:24:37,200
there's attendance.

3572
03:24:37,200 --> 03:24:39,359
>> Okay.

3573
03:24:39,359 --> 03:24:41,200
And there are other openings in other

3574
03:24:41,200 --> 03:24:43,439
departments. So an in throughout the

3575
03:24:43,439 --> 03:24:58,950
city and staff membally

3576
03:24:58,960 --> 03:25:00,239
across the board to different

3577
03:25:00,239 --> 03:25:02,560
departments because the rate is the

3578
03:25:02,560 --> 03:25:04,720
same. Job description the title is all

3579
03:25:04,720 --> 03:25:06,720
the same. That's what I'm so

3580
03:25:06,720 --> 03:25:18,710
descriptionally

3581
03:25:18,720 --> 03:25:22,880
just people leave.

3582
03:25:22,880 --> 03:25:26,720
um overtime uh is slightly higher but

3583
03:25:26,720 --> 03:25:29,760
again we do have to realize that um the

3584
03:25:29,760 --> 03:25:32,880
1037 contract will come up and somehow

3585
03:25:32,880 --> 03:25:37,680
this has to be adjusted once you know

3586
03:25:37,680 --> 03:25:40,319
them. So if there's a rate increase we

3587
03:25:40,319 --> 03:25:41,520
put a little bit of money in there to

3588
03:25:41,520 --> 03:25:46,150
cover cost.

3589
03:25:46,160 --> 03:25:51,680
So, this is in anticipation of their

3590
03:25:51,680 --> 03:25:52,560
negotiation.

3591
03:25:52,560 --> 03:25:54,239
>> There's a little bit more over time when

3592
03:25:54,239 --> 03:25:56,640
we do look at where we are here to date.

3593
03:25:56,640 --> 03:26:00,880
Um, so a little bit more over time

3594
03:26:00,880 --> 03:26:03,439
salaries go up

3595
03:26:03,439 --> 03:26:07,120
kind of stays the same based on hours

3596
03:26:07,120 --> 03:26:08,880
the cost goes up.

3597
03:26:08,880 --> 03:26:11,120
>> No, I understand that. Uh so this is a

3598
03:26:11,120 --> 03:26:13,200
this is in anticipation what's going to

3599
03:26:13,200 --> 03:26:14,960
happen and should it not happen then

3600
03:26:14,960 --> 03:26:16,239
that number would change. It's not a

3601
03:26:16,239 --> 03:26:17,680
significant number.

3602
03:26:17,680 --> 03:26:22,720
>> We don't use a lot of blue tank in the staff. You know we do some

3603
03:26:22,720 --> 03:26:27,040
Saturday alleyway cleanups in um certain

3604
03:26:27,040 --> 03:26:29,439
areas where there's traffic on the

3605
03:26:29,439 --> 03:26:31,120
weekend there's less traffic. There are

3606
03:26:31,120 --> 03:26:34,319
some things that we do but we pretty

3607
03:26:34,319 --> 03:26:36,800
much keep a good eye on that and and you

3608
03:26:36,800 --> 03:26:40,319
know stay

3609
03:26:40,319 --> 03:26:43,680
Just going back on the staffing

3610
03:26:43,680 --> 03:26:47,439
um we did we did receive an email the um

3611
03:26:47,439 --> 03:26:50,000
the union and our president against us

3612
03:26:50,000 --> 03:26:52,160
reduction in staffing. I'm not sure if

3613
03:26:52,160 --> 03:26:54,080
you're aware of that even though

3614
03:26:54,080 --> 03:26:57,120
>> they are. Okay.

3615
03:26:57,120 --> 03:26:58,640
Any other question regarding this

3616
03:26:58,640 --> 03:27:03,910
section?

3617
03:27:03,920 --> 03:27:09,359
Seeing none, we'll move to the 26

3618
03:27:09,359 --> 03:27:13,830
vicinity buildings maintenance.

3619
03:27:13,840 --> 03:27:16,560
» The commission

3620
03:27:16,560 --> 03:27:18,800
increased by 4.29%

3621
03:27:18,800 --> 03:27:24,080
and approximately 85 85,000 to 817,000

3622
03:27:24,080 --> 03:27:30,070
approximately 36k increase.

3623
03:27:30,080 --> 03:27:34,399
Give us a brief summary and

3624
03:27:34,399 --> 03:27:36,640
anything to be

3625
03:27:36,640 --> 03:27:38,720
>> there's not a lot in this obviously know

3626
03:27:38,720 --> 03:27:40,239
what facilities are going to hang in

3627
03:27:40,239 --> 03:27:43,600
here the ground city hall um you know

3628
03:27:43,600 --> 03:27:45,920
all facilities that you know parks

3629
03:27:45,920 --> 03:27:47,520
buildings administrative building up in

3630
03:27:47,520 --> 03:27:51,760
central park uh assignments bathrooms um

3631
03:27:51,760 --> 03:27:54,399
they also have two people assigned to PD

3632
03:27:54,399 --> 03:27:56,000
that are the cleaners that work on

3633
03:27:56,000 --> 03:27:58,399
facilities there's two gentlemen over

3634
03:27:58,399 --> 03:28:01,120
there that work and clean um they go to

3635
03:28:01,120 --> 03:28:04,319
assignments uh home on a weekly basis

3636
03:28:04,319 --> 03:28:07,680
being tight there.

3637
03:28:07,680 --> 03:28:11,520
Um there's currently one vacancy here.

3638
03:28:11,520 --> 03:28:14,239
Um and that's anticipated.

3639
03:28:14,239 --> 03:28:17,439
Um we just had somebody um move through

3640
03:28:17,439 --> 03:28:20,960
that side, but that just came up fairly

3641
03:28:20,960 --> 03:28:22,800
recently.

3642
03:28:22,800 --> 03:28:25,520
>> I already had a question for this.

3643
03:28:25,520 --> 03:28:28,239
>> I think you have a question that came

3644
03:28:28,239 --> 03:28:31,120
out about the sag.

3645
03:28:31,120 --> 03:28:33,200
There was no staging pay. If you look at

3646
03:28:33,200 --> 03:28:36,080
the budget, her pay was increased from

3647
03:28:36,080 --> 03:28:39,279
23 and 24. It was increased from 24 to

3648
03:28:39,279 --> 03:28:41,840
25. It doesn't show an increase from 25

3649
03:28:41,840 --> 03:28:44,080
to 26 because the union contract has not

3650
03:28:44,080 --> 03:28:46,239
been settled.

3651
03:28:46,239 --> 03:28:48,560
So, and

3652
03:28:48,560 --> 03:28:50,080
that same paper would go across the

3653
03:28:50,080 --> 03:28:52,160
board to all 37 members, even the

3654
03:28:52,160 --> 03:28:56,319
streets, parks, water, sewer. So, um

3655
03:28:56,319 --> 03:28:58,080
that's why we've seen that where it

3656
03:28:58,080 --> 03:29:00,080
didn't move from the previous year

3657
03:29:00,080 --> 03:29:01,279
because

3658
03:29:01,279 --> 03:29:07,110
expires this year instead of

3659
03:29:07,120 --> 03:29:08,640
» sorry

3660
03:29:08,640 --> 03:29:10,800
I say that stag kind of reflected I

3661
03:29:10,800 --> 03:29:12,560
don't we don't see the adopted bills

3662
03:29:12,560 --> 03:29:15,520
from 23 24 but splitting that across the

3663
03:29:15,520 --> 03:29:18,080
number of individuals not content that

3664
03:29:18,080 --> 03:29:18,479
margin

3665
03:29:18,479 --> 03:29:19,840
>> in the cleaners

3666
03:29:19,840 --> 03:29:23,510
>> yes

3667
03:29:23,520 --> 03:29:28,800
» cleaner on page 27 shows 256 bills and

3668
03:29:28,800 --> 03:29:30,319
proposed 26

3669
03:29:30,319 --> 03:29:34,000
six bills A6221

3670
03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:35,439
cleaners

3671
03:29:35,439 --> 03:29:38,239
>> the bills my question was or not my

3672
03:29:38,239 --> 03:29:42,080
comment was 23.4 four it doesn't

3673
03:29:42,080 --> 03:29:45,200
allocate it doesn't or identify how many

3674
03:29:45,200 --> 03:29:48,720
bills so that divide across like a

3675
03:29:48,720 --> 03:29:51,600
number marginal

3676
03:29:51,600 --> 03:29:54,080
I don't I don't put the spreadsheet

3677
03:29:54,080 --> 03:29:56,160
together but I could tell you that the

3678
03:29:56,160 --> 03:30:01,359
same bills were there in 22 23 24 25

3679
03:30:01,359 --> 03:30:04,319
there 26 the number of cleaners has to

3680
03:30:04,319 --> 03:30:05,439
change

3681
03:30:05,439 --> 03:30:08,720
>> great circle

3682
03:30:08,720 --> 03:30:10,800
23 to

3683
03:30:10,800 --> 03:30:14,080
do the math. $15,000 divided across six

3684
03:30:14,080 --> 03:30:16,720
people and we identify how technical

3685
03:30:16,720 --> 03:30:18,960
they play in the sleep. Well, they're

3686
03:30:18,960 --> 03:30:21,120
there, but sometimes they leave, we have

3687
03:30:21,120 --> 03:30:22,319
to refill. So, there's going to be

3688
03:30:22,319 --> 03:30:24,800
periods where there's no no salary to

3689
03:30:24,800 --> 03:30:28,000
them. Those are just actual amounts from

3690
03:30:28,000 --> 03:30:36,229
the 23 24 previous budgets

3691
03:30:36,239 --> 03:30:39,200
or whatever was budgeted for 243.

3692
03:30:39,200 --> 03:30:40,960
So that could be someone moving in like

3693
03:30:40,960 --> 03:30:43,200
Paul and situated

3694
03:30:43,200 --> 03:30:47,200
in if somebody vacated the position it

3695
03:30:47,200 --> 03:30:50,479
for a few months the you know the annual

3696
03:30:50,479 --> 03:30:52,560
salary the extended would be different

3697
03:30:52,560 --> 03:30:54,239
if somebody stayed in that position for

3698
03:30:54,239 --> 03:30:57,279
the full year it would be because all

3699
03:30:57,279 --> 03:30:59,200
those positions are the exact same

3700
03:30:59,200 --> 03:31:01,120
there's no steps there it's it's a flat

3701
03:31:01,120 --> 03:31:06,389
rate

3702
03:31:06,399 --> 03:31:08,160
» ahead please

3703
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:12,000
>> excuse on a 162200 for the supervisor

3704
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:13,600
building. There's a significant raise

3705
03:31:13,600 --> 03:31:18,550
there

3706
03:31:18,560 --> 03:31:23,840
from 75. Um he responds to a lot of

3707
03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:27,600
calls around the clock at night

3708
03:31:27,600 --> 03:31:30,630
golf

3709
03:31:30,640 --> 03:31:32,800
um

3710
03:31:32,800 --> 03:31:36,870
bureau service.

3711
03:31:36,880 --> 03:31:45,590
So then who does the stipen go to? St.

3712
03:31:45,600 --> 03:31:49,120
» And then we're um uh proposing a over

3713
03:31:49,120 --> 03:31:51,120
about a $66,000 raise.

3714
03:31:51,120 --> 03:32:03,670
>> 66,000

3715
03:32:03,680 --> 03:32:06,399
» work.

3716
03:32:06,399 --> 03:32:11,040
Any other question for this department?

3717
03:32:11,040 --> 03:32:16,229
Okay, seeing none, we'll move to

3718
03:32:16,239 --> 03:32:19,520
page 47.

3719
03:32:19,520 --> 03:32:21,680
>> Bottom section.

3720
03:32:21,680 --> 03:32:23,920
Service.

3721
03:32:23,920 --> 03:32:25,439
>> I'm sorry, you said 47.

3722
03:32:25,439 --> 03:32:27,600
>> 47.

3723
03:32:27,600 --> 03:32:32,950
>> Thank you.

3724
03:32:32,960 --> 03:32:34,399
The public service administration

3725
03:32:34,399 --> 03:32:36,880
increased by 84%

3726
03:32:36,880 --> 03:32:40,720
approximately 3,000 329,000

3727
03:32:40,720 --> 03:32:47,269
is uh approximately $26,000 increase

3728
03:32:47,279 --> 03:32:54,309
for street administration. Um

3729
03:32:54,319 --> 03:32:56,960
» we still have increased by half a

3730
03:32:56,960 --> 03:33:00,800
person. Okay. Manager

3731
03:33:00,800 --> 03:33:03,349
um

3732
03:33:03,359 --> 03:33:05,279
There was 3.5 last year. There's four

3733
03:33:05,279 --> 03:33:25,269
this year. Um.5

3734
03:33:25,279 --> 03:33:28,880
» so street department manager is.5.

3735
03:33:28,880 --> 03:33:32,160
>> The IPS. Oh, I see.

3736
03:33:32,160 --> 03:33:35,200
>> The PSA increase

3737
03:33:35,200 --> 03:33:37,200
that increase for the civil service

3738
03:33:37,200 --> 03:33:38,239
employees.

3739
03:33:38,239 --> 03:33:40,000
>> Gotcha.

3740
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:42,000
>> So, going back to the street maintenance

3741
03:33:42,000 --> 03:33:46,560
crew leader, the increases based on

3742
03:33:46,560 --> 03:33:50,000
>> Yeah. their crew leaders are also CSA.

3743
03:33:50,000 --> 03:33:52,239
So, those are other than the street

3744
03:33:52,239 --> 03:33:54,239
department manager

3745
03:33:54,239 --> 03:33:56,960
that is that's management obviously. So,

3746
03:33:56,960 --> 03:33:59,520
the crew leaders are contractual. So

3747
03:33:59,520 --> 03:34:00,399
it's the IPS.

3748
03:34:00,399 --> 03:34:03,359
>> Okay. Yeah.

3749
03:34:03,359 --> 03:34:05,040
Any other questions? Go ahead.

3750
03:34:05,040 --> 03:34:07,920
>> So

3751
03:34:07,920 --> 03:34:10,640
85010

3752
03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:12,319
those

3753
03:34:12,319 --> 03:34:14,239
you're saying that like it's like

3754
03:34:14,239 --> 03:34:15,200
$8,000.

3755
03:34:15,200 --> 03:34:16,880
>> They're CSA. Yes.

3756
03:34:16,880 --> 03:34:19,439
>> Those raises are steps and all that.

3757
03:34:19,439 --> 03:34:21,359
>> Those are contractual. Those are the CSA

3758
03:34:21,359 --> 03:34:23,279
raises.

3759
03:34:23,279 --> 03:34:25,120
There are also steps involved. I don't

3760
03:34:25,120 --> 03:34:32,600
know what step

3761
03:34:32,610 --> 03:34:34,000
[Music]

3762
03:34:34,000 --> 03:34:39,030
number

3763
03:34:39,040 --> 03:34:40,800
» I think it was explained to when we were

3764
03:34:40,800 --> 03:34:44,160
doing or somebody same thing it's it's

3765
03:34:44,160 --> 03:34:50,870
contractable

3766
03:34:50,880 --> 03:34:53,600
» yeah so they received in 25 they

3767
03:34:53,600 --> 03:34:56,319
received retro

3768
03:34:56,319 --> 03:34:58,399
New South

3769
03:34:58,399 --> 03:35:07,030
that doesn't reflect what was adopted.

3770
03:35:07,040 --> 03:35:10,399
» Okay. We move to PH 40th

3771
03:35:10,399 --> 03:35:18,950
>> and that is

3772
03:35:18,960 --> 03:35:21,520
» we did eliminate two AR positions out of

3773
03:35:21,520 --> 03:35:25,520
the uh B51 pen line. Um there were two

3774
03:35:25,520 --> 03:35:27,520
AR positions in there last year. They

3775
03:35:27,520 --> 03:35:32,640
were pink. Um one is now deleted. home.

3776
03:35:32,640 --> 03:35:36,479
So those two have been removed them for

3777
03:35:36,479 --> 03:35:37,760
cost measures.

3778
03:35:37,760 --> 03:35:38,800
>> They're vacant anyway.

3779
03:35:38,800 --> 03:35:40,640
>> They were vacant anyway.

3780
03:35:40,640 --> 03:35:43,760
>> Nobody's been displaced. Okay.

3781
03:35:43,760 --> 03:35:48,630
>> Thank you.

3782
03:35:48,640 --> 03:35:52,880
» Any questions regarding the section?

3783
03:35:52,880 --> 03:35:54,319
>> Go ahead.

3784
03:35:54,319 --> 03:35:56,239
>> Uh just from my knowledge, are there any

3785
03:35:56,239 --> 03:35:59,439
differences pay salaries for

3786
03:35:59,439 --> 03:36:02,800
SNAP and street? ask is just is there

3787
03:36:02,800 --> 03:36:09,590
any value in merging those two

3788
03:36:09,600 --> 03:36:12,319
which is equivalent there across the

3789
03:36:12,319 --> 03:36:18,150
board no matter where you are map parks

3790
03:36:18,160 --> 03:36:20,640
it's all the one title it's all the

3791
03:36:20,640 --> 03:36:32,229
exact same Overall

3792
03:36:32,239 --> 03:36:33,840
total street maintenance budget did come

3793
03:36:33,840 --> 03:36:40,790
down.

3794
03:36:40,800 --> 03:36:42,800
» Any other questions? We'll move to the

3795
03:36:42,800 --> 03:36:45,439
bottom of page 49.

3796
03:36:45,439 --> 03:36:50,080
This mechanic equipment garage

3797
03:36:50,080 --> 03:36:52,960
section for the day 5132 increased by

3798
03:36:52,960 --> 03:37:00,309
5.72%.

3799
03:37:00,319 --> 03:37:02,160
Fleet manager. We put in an assistant

3800
03:37:02,160 --> 03:37:04,720
fleet manager. Um

3801
03:37:04,720 --> 03:37:06,640
we picked up a lot of equipment down

3802
03:37:06,640 --> 03:37:08,399
there. We have a lot of vehicles that we

3803
03:37:08,399 --> 03:37:13,520
take care of. Um and we need a couple

3804
03:37:13,520 --> 03:37:14,960
more

3805
03:37:14,960 --> 03:37:24,950
the management of the denomin

3806
03:37:24,960 --> 03:37:27,920
workers comp. Um,

3807
03:37:27,920 --> 03:37:32,399
one is still out. Just came back in

3808
03:37:32,399 --> 03:37:35,840
last month. So, one will be out almost a

3809
03:37:35,840 --> 03:37:40,239
year at the end of game.

3810
03:37:40,239 --> 03:37:42,399
It's very difficult to maintain and keep

3811
03:37:42,399 --> 03:37:48,479
up with our sleek. um so many people out

3812
03:37:48,479 --> 03:37:53,120
our current fleet manager um is in there

3813
03:37:53,120 --> 03:37:55,600
turning wrenches um sorry to keep up

3814
03:37:55,600 --> 03:37:57,279
with the daily reports and stuff when

3815
03:37:57,279 --> 03:37:59,760
you're actually in a bay um turning

3816
03:37:59,760 --> 03:38:02,960
wrenches. So um the assistant fleet

3817
03:38:02,960 --> 03:38:05,040
manager so we are looking to put the

3818
03:38:05,040 --> 03:38:06,720
fleet manager back in keep an assistant

3819
03:38:06,720 --> 03:38:10,880
fleet manager um

3820
03:38:10,880 --> 03:38:13,359
overall again the budget came up also

3821
03:38:13,359 --> 03:38:15,200
because of that extra position but it's

3822
03:38:15,200 --> 03:38:20,000
well needed it's critical value

3823
03:38:20,000 --> 03:38:21,760
we don't have to tell you how many waste

3824
03:38:21,760 --> 03:38:23,439
trucks we have how many gun trucks and

3825
03:38:23,439 --> 03:38:25,279
then getting we already started getting

3826
03:38:25,279 --> 03:38:28,560
the the trucks ready for win start a

3827
03:38:28,560 --> 03:38:29,760
couple months in advance getting the

3828
03:38:29,760 --> 03:38:30,640
files

3829
03:38:30,640 --> 03:38:34,469
any better

3830
03:38:34,479 --> 03:38:36,720
» for this department. Um, do we have any

3831
03:38:36,720 --> 03:38:38,479
intergovernmental cooperation with the

3832
03:38:38,479 --> 03:38:39,680
county?

3833
03:38:39,680 --> 03:38:42,960
>> Yes, we can stand up to the county as we

3834
03:38:42,960 --> 03:38:45,520
have done this before. Um, but we are

3835
03:38:45,520 --> 03:38:46,960
saving money by doing a little bit more

3836
03:38:46,960 --> 03:38:50,000
in house. Um, other departments, PD uses

3837
03:38:50,000 --> 03:38:51,680
the county a little bit more frequently

3838
03:38:51,680 --> 03:38:54,160
than we do. Um, there's a lot of things

3839
03:38:54,160 --> 03:38:56,319
that we'll send to the county that, you

3840
03:38:56,319 --> 03:38:57,680
know, they couldn't perform and then it

3841
03:38:57,680 --> 03:39:00,800
goes out to a third party. So we just

3842
03:39:00,800 --> 03:39:02,080
lose that piece of equipment for a

3843
03:39:02,080 --> 03:39:03,840
longer period of time because it goes

3844
03:39:03,840 --> 03:39:06,479
from us to them. We've evaluated it's

3845
03:39:06,479 --> 03:39:07,920
over their skills and then it goes to

3846
03:39:07,920 --> 03:39:10,960
somebody else. So we we evaluate now if

3847
03:39:10,960 --> 03:39:12,399
we can't do it we're going to send it to

3848
03:39:12,399 --> 03:39:14,399
third party us.

3849
03:39:14,399 --> 03:39:16,000
>> I'm trying to recall last year when you

3850
03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:17,680
were doing this review I did mention

3851
03:39:17,680 --> 03:39:20,479
about keeping a lot of house

3852
03:39:20,479 --> 03:39:22,239
>> and that's why you were trying to back

3853
03:39:22,239 --> 03:39:23,040
this department

3854
03:39:23,040 --> 03:39:24,880
>> and we put an extra mechanic on last

3855
03:39:24,880 --> 03:39:26,800
year off

3856
03:39:26,800 --> 03:39:29,200
>> he's not been able to off because muscle

3857
03:39:29,200 --> 03:39:30,960
you been out to me on the day they

3858
03:39:30,960 --> 03:39:33,520
shift. So I have not been able to move

3859
03:39:33,520 --> 03:39:35,680
somebody to do some of the what I would

3860
03:39:35,680 --> 03:39:38,239
call when you approved it last year the

3861
03:39:38,239 --> 03:39:41,120
basic stuff like your oil changes tire

3862
03:39:41,120 --> 03:39:44,000
changes and things like that and if we

3863
03:39:44,000 --> 03:39:47,279
had a full staff and they also know that

3864
03:39:47,279 --> 03:39:49,200
when I can get back to full staff

3865
03:39:49,200 --> 03:39:51,120
somebody will go to that meeting ship

3866
03:39:51,120 --> 03:39:53,120
right now in all last year this past

3867
03:39:53,120 --> 03:39:55,680
year having two people off for almost a

3868
03:39:55,680 --> 03:39:58,000
year it would

3869
03:39:58,000 --> 03:40:00,080
>> it would devastate us on day times we

3870
03:40:00,080 --> 03:40:02,960
would get things stuck. So, it wasn't um

3871
03:40:02,960 --> 03:40:04,960
wasn't feasible yet. Still looking

3872
03:40:04,960 --> 03:40:07,680
forward to it, but until we get a full

3873
03:40:07,680 --> 03:40:12,319
staff and everybody back off,

3874
03:40:12,319 --> 03:40:17,590
one individual stays in base.

3875
03:40:17,600 --> 03:40:21,680
» How much how much of that is that the

3876
03:40:21,680 --> 03:40:25,680
two staff of work? How much of that is

3877
03:40:25,680 --> 03:40:27,520
still going to the county in terms of

3878
03:40:27,520 --> 03:40:29,279
like

3879
03:40:29,279 --> 03:40:32,000
>> we could either send a third party

3880
03:40:32,000 --> 03:40:34,880
the county you know we we still get you

3881
03:40:34,880 --> 03:40:36,160
know we send something there and they

3882
03:40:36,160 --> 03:40:39,040
can fix it but we've been doing almost

3883
03:40:39,040 --> 03:40:41,359
of it in house.

3884
03:40:41,359 --> 03:40:43,840
>> So in terms of the police can can we

3885
03:40:43,840 --> 03:40:46,000
take those I mean some or is that

3886
03:40:46,000 --> 03:40:48,800
>> the goal is too much? The goal last year

3887
03:40:48,800 --> 03:40:51,840
was the um the when we came to go on a

3888
03:40:51,840 --> 03:40:53,279
night shift that we could do some of the

3889
03:40:53,279 --> 03:40:54,640
basic stuff for some of the police

3890
03:40:54,640 --> 03:40:55,840
vehicles

3891
03:40:55,840 --> 03:40:58,239
>> um you know they were not being used to

3892
03:40:58,239 --> 03:41:06,389
shal

3893
03:41:06,399 --> 03:41:09,359
you save some money by doing it because

3894
03:41:09,359 --> 03:41:11,520
there it's some of this more basic

3895
03:41:11,520 --> 03:41:12,960
maintenance

3896
03:41:12,960 --> 03:41:16,399
>> um but again um I've got to get the

3897
03:41:16,399 --> 03:41:17,600
mechanical

3898
03:41:17,600 --> 03:41:22,950
back and working before we can do that.

3899
03:41:22,960 --> 03:41:26,560
» Does this look like a long-term work?

3900
03:41:26,560 --> 03:41:29,359
>> Um,

3901
03:41:29,359 --> 03:41:31,760
I think, you know, there's there's

3902
03:41:31,760 --> 03:41:33,520
things that can be addressed after one

3903
03:41:33,520 --> 03:41:37,840
year, but again, um, there's there

3904
03:41:37,840 --> 03:41:40,160
things that can be done, but I come back

3905
03:41:40,160 --> 03:41:45,910
before it reaches that one year mark.

3906
03:41:45,920 --> 03:41:47,200
You have two people out.

3907
03:41:47,200 --> 03:41:48,319
>> One just came back.

3908
03:41:48,319 --> 03:41:50,080
>> One came back. Now there's just one

3909
03:41:50,080 --> 03:41:52,479
person.

3910
03:41:52,479 --> 03:41:54,640
>> All right. So, and that person that just

3911
03:41:54,640 --> 03:41:58,479
came back is gone for

3912
03:41:58,479 --> 03:41:59,840
>> since last November.

3913
03:41:59,840 --> 03:42:00,880
>> Last.

3914
03:42:00,880 --> 03:42:03,600
>> Wow. So, now that you have them back,

3915
03:42:03,600 --> 03:42:04,319
>> we have one back.

3916
03:42:04,319 --> 03:42:06,319
>> One back. Now that you have that one

3917
03:42:06,319 --> 03:42:09,120
back that we still can't move that back

3918
03:42:09,120 --> 03:42:09,920
person over

3919
03:42:09,920 --> 03:42:12,560
>> now we're preparing all our plows and

3920
03:42:12,560 --> 03:42:14,560
stuff for win. So it's it's

3921
03:42:14,560 --> 03:42:17,910
>> hectic

3922
03:42:17,920 --> 03:42:20,960
go down you know the whole idea was you

3923
03:42:20,960 --> 03:42:25,680
know he's he's grown he's become

3924
03:42:25,680 --> 03:42:28,000
again

3925
03:42:28,000 --> 03:42:30,000
we're looking to just do like an oiler

3926
03:42:30,000 --> 03:42:33,359
basic stuff because we were short he's

3927
03:42:33,359 --> 03:42:36,640
grown considerably within the shop and

3928
03:42:36,640 --> 03:42:39,680
able to do a lot more than you know we

3929
03:42:39,680 --> 03:42:42,319
would have had to

3930
03:42:42,319 --> 03:42:47,750
so Any

3931
03:42:47,760 --> 03:42:49,200
other question? I know the reason why I

3932
03:42:49,200 --> 03:42:50,239
ask the question because I know last

3933
03:42:50,239 --> 03:42:53,840
year just because you want you know

3934
03:42:53,840 --> 03:42:56,239
Spanish this apartment when it was it

3935
03:42:56,239 --> 03:42:59,920
was double size so many years.

3936
03:42:59,920 --> 03:43:00,560
>> Two people.

3937
03:43:00,560 --> 03:43:02,720
>> Yeah.

3938
03:43:02,720 --> 03:43:05,680
Any any uh any good

3939
03:43:05,680 --> 03:43:08,479
hope uh hope for the better.

3940
03:43:08,479 --> 03:43:10,960
Okay. Any other question?

3941
03:43:10,960 --> 03:43:16,319
We'll move to page 51. And there's one.

3942
03:43:16,319 --> 03:43:24,950
>> You got to be careful.

3943
03:43:24,960 --> 03:43:27,680
» It's not budget obviously. We know what

3944
03:43:27,680 --> 03:43:29,760
it's more. It's grown slightly and

3945
03:43:29,760 --> 03:43:31,199
that's really to accommodate a couple

3946
03:43:31,199 --> 03:43:33,359
things is our fees for services for

3947
03:43:33,359 --> 03:43:35,840
outside services we increased by

3948
03:43:35,840 --> 03:43:37,359
$25,000.

3949
03:43:37,359 --> 03:43:40,960
Um and the road materials masonary that

3950
03:43:40,960 --> 03:43:43,680
is really our salt that we buy um and

3951
03:43:43,680 --> 03:43:47,279
they've increased that by um $30,000.

3952
03:43:47,279 --> 03:43:50,080
Um there was a little bit for tools and

3953
03:43:50,080 --> 03:43:52,720
hardware um just for some equipment

3954
03:43:52,720 --> 03:43:57,429
stuff in the shop.

3955
03:43:57,439 --> 03:44:00,080
Middle increase. We all hope that snow

3956
03:44:00,080 --> 03:44:05,189
is light but mother nature

3957
03:44:05,199 --> 03:44:07,760
grow nice.

3958
03:44:07,760 --> 03:44:09,279
Yeah,

3959
03:44:09,279 --> 03:44:10,479
>> we're going to knock on wood on that

3960
03:44:10,479 --> 03:44:12,399
one.

3961
03:44:12,399 --> 03:44:15,279
>> Any questions? Go ahead, please. Just uh

3962
03:44:15,279 --> 03:44:18,560
quickly around like how it seems like we

3963
03:44:18,560 --> 03:44:20,160
are outsourcing a lot of that snow

3964
03:44:20,160 --> 03:44:22,560
removal stuff like is that is there a

3965
03:44:22,560 --> 03:44:23,520
reason why we

3966
03:44:23,520 --> 03:44:25,840
>> we've been consistent with um the

3967
03:44:25,840 --> 03:44:30,640
contractors going back to even caring?

3968
03:44:30,640 --> 03:44:32,319
It's always been the same.

3969
03:44:32,319 --> 03:44:34,800
>> Yeah. Sure. So what I'm saying is like

3970
03:44:34,800 --> 03:44:37,439
but it's we're outsourcing a good amount

3971
03:44:37,439 --> 03:44:38,960
of it though, right? Like we like they

3972
03:44:38,960 --> 03:44:40,640
have more routes than than we have.

3973
03:44:40,640 --> 03:44:42,239
Correct. For snow removal.

3974
03:44:42,239 --> 03:44:44,000
>> I don't say they have more. They have

3975
03:44:44,000 --> 03:44:46,000
certain areas that they do.

3976
03:44:46,000 --> 03:44:48,560
>> Um some are congested areas like

3977
03:44:48,560 --> 03:44:50,399
Hamilton and the loaders are doing in

3978
03:44:50,399 --> 03:44:54,239
there. Um Woodlon area they stage their

3979
03:44:54,239 --> 03:44:55,760
loaders in different parts of the city.

3980
03:44:55,760 --> 03:44:58,239
So they're ready for us. Their fuel

3981
03:44:58,239 --> 03:44:59,600
tanks are there. So they fill up

3982
03:44:59,600 --> 03:45:02,800
themselves right there. Um

3983
03:45:02,800 --> 03:45:05,680
And you know they're they're contracted

3984
03:45:05,680 --> 03:45:08,479
with us for emergencies only. And you

3985
03:45:08,479 --> 03:45:12,080
know our staff is still

3986
03:45:12,080 --> 03:45:14,479
if they want to come in

3987
03:45:14,479 --> 03:45:19,590
>> do they still maintain the same

3988
03:45:19,600 --> 03:45:22,479
» three in or something

3989
03:45:22,479 --> 03:45:23,040
come in?

3990
03:45:23,040 --> 03:45:26,000
>> General come in. Okay.

3991
03:45:26,000 --> 03:45:29,120
You know, last year uh wasn't a bad bad

3992
03:45:29,120 --> 03:45:31,120
year for snow, but the complaints were

3993
03:45:31,120 --> 03:45:33,760
minimal. Um we get, you know, get the

3994
03:45:33,760 --> 03:45:38,160
subcontractors out early, 3 in or we

3995
03:45:38,160 --> 03:45:39,600
watch the weather, you know, for at 2

3996
03:45:39,600 --> 03:45:41,359
and a half inches. We know it's not

3997
03:45:41,359 --> 03:45:42,960
going to stop for the next five hours.

3998
03:45:42,960 --> 03:45:45,199
They're called, they get mobilized. Um

3999
03:45:45,199 --> 03:45:48,160
and again, they don't um take anything

4000
03:45:48,160 --> 03:45:51,120
away from our staff. Our staff is, you

4001
03:45:51,120 --> 03:45:53,520
know, we never have enough of our own

4002
03:45:53,520 --> 03:45:55,439
staff. Okay. They'll come in, they work,

4003
03:45:55,439 --> 03:45:56,880
but they do get tired. They got to go

4004
03:45:56,880 --> 03:45:58,960
home, driving big trucks.

4005
03:45:58,960 --> 03:46:01,439
>> Um, you know, because of safety issues.

4006
03:46:01,439 --> 03:46:04,640
So, but again, overtime is not

4007
03:46:04,640 --> 03:46:06,000
mandatory,

4008
03:46:06,000 --> 03:46:07,840
>> right?

4009
03:46:07,840 --> 03:46:11,680
>> And, um, we do have struggle sometimes

4010
03:46:11,680 --> 03:46:14,800
over time. Last year's first storm was

4011
03:46:14,800 --> 03:46:16,800
Thanksgiving.

4012
03:46:16,800 --> 03:46:17,920
Not a lot of people want to leave the

4013
03:46:17,920 --> 03:46:20,000
family at Thanksgiving. So,

4014
03:46:20,000 --> 03:46:22,080
>> I think also the additional cost of

4015
03:46:22,080 --> 03:46:25,279
maintaining 15

4016
03:46:25,279 --> 03:46:28,800
trucks would be taxing on the city. You

4017
03:46:28,800 --> 03:46:30,399
know, the government's trucks now are

4018
03:46:30,399 --> 03:46:32,640
costing us three and a quarter of these

4019
03:46:32,640 --> 03:46:36,640
new uh trucks. But the new technology

4020
03:46:36,640 --> 03:46:38,800
to, you know, limit the amount of salt

4021
03:46:38,800 --> 03:46:42,000
that goes on the roads and we're talking

4022
03:46:42,000 --> 03:46:44,319
close to half million dollars for those

4023
03:46:44,319 --> 03:46:46,080
quite

4024
03:46:46,080 --> 03:46:46,880
>> a maintain

4025
03:46:46,880 --> 03:46:49,199
>> and then maintain

4026
03:46:49,199 --> 03:46:51,120
trucks on

4027
03:46:51,120 --> 03:46:54,000
>> so it's cost effective. Yeah.

4028
03:46:54,000 --> 03:46:55,920
>> Is it based cost effective based on

4029
03:46:55,920 --> 03:46:58,720
machinery or the past staff capacity or

4030
03:46:58,720 --> 03:46:59,279
kind of

4031
03:46:59,279 --> 03:47:01,120
>> everything? It's just it's just total

4032
03:47:01,120 --> 03:47:04,479
cost package to buy the machine.

4033
03:47:04,479 --> 03:47:05,920
Some of these machines machines will

4034
03:47:05,920 --> 03:47:07,600
just sit all summer

4035
03:47:07,600 --> 03:47:10,479
>> where pay but that service has paid off

4036
03:47:10,479 --> 03:47:12,080
and then they do run when they break

4037
03:47:12,080 --> 03:47:15,199
down come and get repaired. Um, so

4038
03:47:15,199 --> 03:47:18,160
>> yes, you look at, you know, the the two,

4039
03:47:18,160 --> 03:47:23,760
you know, 250 275,000 we budget for the storm for the whole year for,

4040
03:47:23,760 --> 03:47:25,760
you know, a private contractor.

4041
03:47:25,760 --> 03:47:30,790
>> That's like a 500.

4042
03:47:30,800 --> 03:47:32,479
» I have to say when we discussed this

4043
03:47:32,479 --> 03:47:35,279
couple years ago at this to help, okay,

4044
03:47:35,279 --> 03:47:41,910
there were so many companies

4045
03:47:41,920 --> 03:47:44,960
and that's the service added. It it

4046
03:47:44,960 --> 03:47:46,720
really helped and I have to commend you

4047
03:47:46,720 --> 03:47:47,680
and your team

4048
03:47:47,680 --> 03:47:50,000
>> because our complaint has dropped

4049
03:47:50,000 --> 03:47:51,760
significantly

4050
03:47:51,760 --> 03:47:53,840
of people not getting their street well.

4051
03:47:53,840 --> 03:47:55,920
But thank you.

4052
03:47:55,920 --> 03:47:57,680
It's good that we have this there and

4053
03:47:57,680 --> 03:48:00,080
it's available at your disposal to make

4054
03:48:00,080 --> 03:48:06,309
sure that our streets are are clean.

4055
03:48:06,319 --> 03:48:08,880
» Any other questions regarding this?

4056
03:48:08,880 --> 03:48:09,680
>> No.

4057
03:48:09,680 --> 03:48:14,080
>> Okay. We will move to page

4058
03:48:14,080 --> 03:48:16,080
52

4059
03:48:16,080 --> 03:48:28,870
parts maintenance.

4060
03:48:28,880 --> 03:48:33,269
He's

4061
03:48:33,279 --> 03:48:37,030
back at the table.

4062
03:48:37,040 --> 03:48:40,560
When last you were here,

4063
03:48:40,560 --> 03:48:44,950
>> yeah, well,

4064
03:48:44,960 --> 03:48:47,520
thank you.

4065
03:48:47,520 --> 03:48:52,309
>> Maintenance A710Ere%

4066
03:48:52,319 --> 03:48:58,150
that's only an increase of $19,511.

4067
03:48:58,160 --> 03:49:01,349
season.

4068
03:49:01,359 --> 03:49:03,279
» You want to give us an overview? Tell us

4069
03:49:03,279 --> 03:49:05,199
what's happening. Tell us the good

4070
03:49:05,199 --> 03:49:07,040
things are happening over there and the

4071
03:49:07,040 --> 03:49:08,319
things that we need to know to improve

4072
03:49:08,319 --> 03:49:09,279
it.

4073
03:49:09,279 --> 03:49:11,520
>> How many things major change we made in

4074
03:49:11,520 --> 03:49:13,520
A7100?

4075
03:49:13,520 --> 03:49:16,479
We have our senior troopers.

4076
03:49:16,479 --> 03:49:17,840
>> That was one of the questions that came

4077
03:49:17,840 --> 03:49:19,359
up.

4078
03:49:19,359 --> 03:49:21,520
>> That was we had a senior troomer. He

4079
03:49:21,520 --> 03:49:25,600
actually comp.

4080
03:49:25,600 --> 03:49:27,120
who went to school, got himself

4081
03:49:27,120 --> 03:49:29,520
certified, and came back, which serves a

4082
03:49:29,520 --> 03:49:32,160
great uh great asset to the city's

4083
03:49:32,160 --> 03:49:33,520
connected. He's able to go out and

4084
03:49:33,520 --> 03:49:36,239
identify. He's not a dead end disease.

4085
03:49:36,239 --> 03:49:38,319
He's fully certified by New York State.

4086
03:49:38,319 --> 03:49:40,800
It's fantastic. There's no question

4087
03:49:40,800 --> 03:49:42,800
about anymore. We've made the right call

4088
03:49:42,800 --> 03:49:43,840
on a tree.

4089
03:49:43,840 --> 03:49:46,399
>> And we were and we were paying an

4090
03:49:46,399 --> 03:49:48,960
outside consultant through development

4091
03:49:48,960 --> 03:49:51,199
>> up to $80,000 a year just to be our

4092
03:49:51,199 --> 03:49:53,600
arborist. Now we have a senior tree

4093
03:49:53,600 --> 03:49:56,080
chairman who is in our works and it goes

4094
03:49:56,080 --> 03:49:59,120
back to um

4095
03:49:59,120 --> 03:50:02,800
retaining good people.

4096
03:50:02,800 --> 03:50:06,399
>> So do we have the equipment to help them

4097
03:50:06,399 --> 03:50:09,600
harbor the knowledge of trees and it

4098
03:50:09,600 --> 03:50:11,680
lets us know what type of tree you know

4099
03:50:11,680 --> 03:50:13,760
plant tree comes down on the edge of the

4100
03:50:13,760 --> 03:50:15,840
road. Sometimes people plant trees that

4101
03:50:15,840 --> 03:50:17,279
really are too big to put on the edge of

4102
03:50:17,279 --> 03:50:19,359
the road. He makes recommendations to

4103
03:50:19,359 --> 03:50:21,439
Billy myself what trees should be

4104
03:50:21,439 --> 03:50:24,080
planted there. He's evaluating the trees

4105
03:50:24,080 --> 03:50:26,960
in the past. We would you know we would

4106
03:50:26,960 --> 03:50:28,720
have the arousers come in that we were

4107
03:50:28,720 --> 03:50:31,439
sort of subcontracting with

4108
03:50:31,439 --> 03:50:32,960
they would look at the tree and tell him

4109
03:50:32,960 --> 03:50:35,120
if it was dead we would get the bill for

4110
03:50:35,120 --> 03:50:37,920
his call. We were getting build for you

4111
03:50:37,920 --> 03:50:40,399
know almost like a wire in 15 minute

4112
03:50:40,399 --> 03:50:42,479
intervals if he was email or anything.

4113
03:50:42,479 --> 03:50:45,040
So what we did is this gentleman went to

4114
03:50:45,040 --> 03:50:48,960
school, took a state exam, got certified

4115
03:50:48,960 --> 03:50:51,520
and we really want to retain him because

4116
03:50:51,520 --> 03:50:53,520
he is an asset now.

4117
03:50:53,520 --> 03:50:54,880
>> We're not paying somebody else to come

4118
03:50:54,880 --> 03:50:56,800
in and do this job on top of paying him

4119
03:50:56,800 --> 03:50:59,279
as a

4120
03:50:59,279 --> 03:51:01,520
>> so so what whatever recommendation is

4121
03:51:01,520 --> 03:51:05,760
made to you, you have the equipment to

4122
03:51:05,760 --> 03:51:06,960
go and take down the

4123
03:51:06,960 --> 03:51:08,560
>> Oh,

4124
03:51:08,560 --> 03:51:11,520
yes. He's an also fighter. So he's very

4125
03:51:11,520 --> 03:51:13,279
experienced in the in the bucket truck.

4126
03:51:13,279 --> 03:51:14,880
He's a climber.

4127
03:51:14,880 --> 03:51:20,550
>> He's

4128
03:51:20,560 --> 03:51:23,920
actually he's been helping

4129
03:51:23,920 --> 03:51:25,920
Jan development. He'll come out and he

4130
03:51:25,920 --> 03:51:27,359
can tell you what trees are, what

4131
03:51:27,359 --> 03:51:29,520
species you put along, streets to escape

4132
03:51:29,520 --> 03:51:31,199
and stuff.

4133
03:51:31,199 --> 03:51:33,840
>> We are seeing the savings down

4134
03:51:33,840 --> 03:51:35,120
using somebody that was being

4135
03:51:35,120 --> 03:51:38,399
subcontracted to

4136
03:51:38,399 --> 03:51:41,439
>> questions. Go ahead, please.

4137
03:51:41,439 --> 03:51:43,760
>> Um, definitely someone that does not

4138
03:51:43,760 --> 03:51:46,720
grow or have that understand I think not

4139
03:51:46,720 --> 03:51:49,279
how much science goes into it. Um, but

4140
03:51:49,279 --> 03:51:53,279
in walking the streets there is a very

4141
03:51:53,279 --> 03:51:56,000
direct need that evaluations came from

4142
03:51:56,000 --> 03:51:57,600
it. Is that something this individual

4143
03:51:57,600 --> 03:52:00,960
would be able to is it a true study or

4144
03:52:00,960 --> 03:52:02,880
there was a tree study a while back ago

4145
03:52:02,880 --> 03:52:05,520
and he does on people who call with you

4146
03:52:05,520 --> 03:52:07,520
know problems with the tree or you know

4147
03:52:07,520 --> 03:52:09,040
tops of them dead. I mean, we have a lot

4148
03:52:09,040 --> 03:52:12,560
of the large silver oak trees that

4149
03:52:12,560 --> 03:52:14,399
they've just got to the end of their

4150
03:52:14,399 --> 03:52:16,319
life.

4151
03:52:16,319 --> 03:52:19,279
They've got to the end of their life.

4152
03:52:19,279 --> 03:52:21,520
>> And he goes up, evaluates, he tells us

4153
03:52:21,520 --> 03:52:25,359
that the tree is comes out and if he

4154
03:52:25,359 --> 03:52:27,120
handles the tree, he takes it down.

4155
03:52:27,120 --> 03:52:28,560
There are some trees that we can't,

4156
03:52:28,560 --> 03:52:29,760
whether they're too big, we need

4157
03:52:29,760 --> 03:52:31,920
praying. And then, you know, we

4158
03:52:31,920 --> 03:52:35,040
establish a list, it's up to bid, you

4159
03:52:35,040 --> 03:52:36,960
may put four white trees on it and do a

4160
03:52:36,960 --> 03:52:40,560
bid. Um, so we have an agreement with

4161
03:52:40,560 --> 03:52:42,720
National Grid. If there's tree that's

4162
03:52:42,720 --> 03:52:45,279
involved with wires, National Grid comes

4163
03:52:45,279 --> 03:52:47,840
evaluates it, they'll take it down on

4164
03:52:47,840 --> 03:52:50,880
the wires and we do the cleanup. So, um,

4165
03:52:50,880 --> 03:52:54,319
it's that program is it's come a long

4166
03:52:54,319 --> 03:52:58,399
way. help in the city.

4167
03:52:58,399 --> 03:53:00,479
>> When I came back on board last fall, we

4168
03:53:00,479 --> 03:53:02,880
had I met with this gentleman that stole

4169
03:53:02,880 --> 03:53:05,760
our trees and we set a program to start

4170
03:53:05,760 --> 03:53:07,760
in the winter time and he fell through

4171
03:53:07,760 --> 03:53:09,920
the ice fishing in January. So, the

4172
03:53:09,920 --> 03:53:11,840
whole program went backwards by about 6

4173
03:53:11,840 --> 03:53:13,920
months. So, he just came back in June

4174
03:53:13,920 --> 03:53:17,600
and what was it? May when we hired the other tree trimmer.

4175
03:53:17,600 --> 03:53:19,840
>> Uh the not the same.

4176
03:53:19,840 --> 03:53:21,199
>> Yeah. So, we hired the other tree

4177
03:53:21,199 --> 03:53:22,479
trimmer. So, we're about to get we just

4178
03:53:22,479 --> 03:53:24,000
got the kid fully trained. We got them

4179
03:53:24,000 --> 03:53:25,120
ready to go. So, we're about to come

4180
03:53:25,120 --> 03:53:27,279
back up again with a full program of

4181
03:53:27,279 --> 03:53:28,880
evaluating street by street by street.

4182
03:53:28,880 --> 03:53:30,560
We're going neighbor by neighborhood,

4183
03:53:30,560 --> 03:53:32,080
determining where our complaints were,

4184
03:53:32,080 --> 03:53:33,359
what was coming in. Obviously, quick

4185
03:53:33,359 --> 03:53:35,439
fix, looking, evaluating, setting them

4186
03:53:35,439 --> 03:53:36,399
up, and then going into the

4187
03:53:36,399 --> 03:53:40,000
neighborhoods and removing trees.

4188
03:53:40,000 --> 03:53:42,960
>> I'd just like to add that we have two

4189
03:53:42,960 --> 03:53:46,720
tree guys in the entire city.

4190
03:53:46,720 --> 03:53:49,359
>> We have a lot of taxing on these

4191
03:53:49,359 --> 03:53:51,279
gentlemen. One of one of the problems we

4192
03:53:51,279 --> 03:53:53,040
have is we have two tree guys, but we

4193
03:53:53,040 --> 03:53:54,640
only have seven people in the parks

4194
03:53:54,640 --> 03:53:57,199
department. So when we have to do monic

4195
03:53:57,199 --> 03:53:58,960
tree jobs, something has to stop. We

4196
03:53:58,960 --> 03:54:00,560
have to either stop doing mowing or

4197
03:54:00,560 --> 03:54:01,920
doing maintenance somewhere because we

4198
03:54:01,920 --> 03:54:04,080
have to we have to fully staff that tree

4199
03:54:04,080 --> 03:54:06,560
crew where we have to have flags. We

4200
03:54:06,560 --> 03:54:08,479
have to have blind men. It's a whole

4201
03:54:08,479 --> 03:54:10,800
complicated thing. So it's a

4202
03:54:10,800 --> 03:54:12,960
>> they come in at night during all the

4203
03:54:12,960 --> 03:54:13,920
storms and the

4204
03:54:13,920 --> 03:54:18,160
>> we trees trees come down. I give I I h

4205
03:54:18,160 --> 03:54:20,479
appreciate for these guys the the work

4206
03:54:20,479 --> 03:54:25,750
that they're doing every day for us.

4207
03:54:25,760 --> 03:54:29,279
» So um we never with all the trees that

4208
03:54:29,279 --> 03:54:32,239
we never ever call outside company ever

4209
03:54:32,239 --> 03:54:34,080
to help us with that.

4210
03:54:34,080 --> 03:54:36,800
>> There are trees like I we said a few

4211
03:54:36,800 --> 03:54:38,560
minutes ago there are trees that are

4212
03:54:38,560 --> 03:54:42,080
just they need a CR you know where

4213
03:54:42,080 --> 03:54:44,239
they're sitting or in their house you

4214
03:54:44,239 --> 03:54:47,040
know um he can't take you down. He's

4215
03:54:47,040 --> 03:54:48,960
very honest. He says, "I can't." Then we

4216
03:54:48,960 --> 03:54:52,399
do, you know, we establish a list. We do

4217
03:54:52,399 --> 03:54:54,239
send that out. Usually there's six to

4218
03:54:54,239 --> 03:54:56,479
seven companies. They we mark the

4219
03:54:56,479 --> 03:54:57,840
treats. They go out, look at them, they

4220
03:54:57,840 --> 03:55:00,239
send the price in, um, and they'll do

4221
03:55:00,239 --> 03:55:02,560
it.

4222
03:55:02,560 --> 03:55:05,120
There are just some that are beyond our

4223
03:55:05,120 --> 03:55:07,840
capabilities,

4224
03:55:07,840 --> 03:55:09,680
>> but we're still saving money because

4225
03:55:09,680 --> 03:55:11,600
instead of the initial cost for somebody

4226
03:55:11,600 --> 03:55:13,520
to go out identify, he's in house doing

4227
03:55:13,520 --> 03:55:16,080
that now. Well, also our response time,

4228
03:55:16,080 --> 03:55:17,600
especially at night when we have major

4229
03:55:17,600 --> 03:55:19,600
storms, uh depending on our loads are

4230
03:55:19,600 --> 03:55:21,279
blocked. If we're tying up policing

4231
03:55:21,279 --> 03:55:23,920
fire, we have a major tree down, we

4232
03:55:23,920 --> 03:55:28,630
respond with our proof there right away.

4233
03:55:28,640 --> 03:55:31,199
» Can you touch on

4234
03:55:31,199 --> 03:55:34,479
line 120, part-time seasonal salary?

4235
03:55:34,479 --> 03:55:41,040
It's almost um doubling up 20 25

4236
03:55:41,040 --> 03:55:44,070
>> 133

4237
03:55:44,080 --> 03:55:55,670
It's 52 bott,000.

4238
03:55:55,680 --> 03:55:57,439
There's two line items in staff when we

4239
03:55:57,439 --> 03:55:58,160
did it.

4240
03:55:58,160 --> 03:56:00,000
>> One was moved over because what we were

4241
03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:03,120
trying to do is for some reason the

4242
03:56:03,120 --> 03:56:04,880
season were all lumped together in

4243
03:56:04,880 --> 03:56:07,760
staff. So they're all getting paid and

4244
03:56:07,760 --> 03:56:09,760
what we're trying to do is put the cost

4245
03:56:09,760 --> 03:56:13,680
where the costs go st. So that didn't

4246
03:56:13,680 --> 03:56:15,680
that came up but it also got moved out

4247
03:56:15,680 --> 03:56:18,000
of snap. So if you go back to the snap

4248
03:56:18,000 --> 03:56:29,930
object

4249
03:56:29,940 --> 03:56:37,110
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4250
03:56:37,120 --> 03:56:42,469
» page 55

4251
03:56:42,479 --> 03:56:45,439
» management it's um

4252
03:56:45,439 --> 03:56:50,960
1621 21 had labor sleep 175,000

4253
03:56:50,960 --> 03:56:54,319
>> then we had labor temporary 70,000 if

4254
03:56:54,319 --> 03:56:57,199
you look we reduced the labor season

4255
03:56:57,199 --> 03:57:00,640
from 175 to 156 but we removed the 70

4256
03:57:00,640 --> 03:57:03,199
and moved it to because what we're

4257
03:57:03,199 --> 03:57:06,319
looking at is Bill and I spoke how many

4258
03:57:06,319 --> 03:57:08,160
people he uses on a regular basis as

4259
03:57:08,160 --> 03:57:11,199
seasonal in the park for roughly how

4260
03:57:11,199 --> 03:57:13,680
long a period to cover summer and into

4261
03:57:13,680 --> 03:57:16,319
the fall and then and allocated those

4262
03:57:16,319 --> 03:57:18,800
seasonals down into parks. So we got

4263
03:57:18,800 --> 03:57:22,080
moved from one put together.

4264
03:57:22,080 --> 03:57:24,479
What allows us to do is when we actually

4265
03:57:24,479 --> 03:57:26,399
start to move forward with more trees, I

4266
03:57:26,399 --> 03:57:27,920
can remove my permanent people, put them

4267
03:57:27,920 --> 03:57:29,680
on the tree. So I'm more confident that

4268
03:57:29,680 --> 03:57:31,199
I can put them on the trees and they're

4269
03:57:31,199 --> 03:57:32,640
going to be safe and use the seasonal

4270
03:57:32,640 --> 03:57:35,120
people probably do the mundane things in

4271
03:57:35,120 --> 03:57:39,670
the park that we have.

4272
03:57:39,680 --> 03:57:43,680
» PL to show the people where they work.

4273
03:57:43,680 --> 03:57:46,239
Um so there are two significant raises

4274
03:57:46,239 --> 03:57:49,439
also on the set of A71.

4275
03:57:49,439 --> 03:57:55,510
Um the park supervisor

4276
03:57:55,520 --> 03:57:57,920
is CSA. So it's going to follow the same

4277
03:57:57,920 --> 03:58:01,439
line as that and

4278
03:58:01,439 --> 03:58:03,359
>> the tree trimmer is because he's now an

4279
03:58:03,359 --> 03:58:05,439
arborist.

4280
03:58:05,439 --> 03:58:08,160
Well, the tree

4281
03:58:08,160 --> 03:58:10,560
>> there was error I think in the past if

4282
03:58:10,560 --> 03:58:12,880
you look at the old salaries the tree

4283
03:58:12,880 --> 03:58:14,479
was making

4284
03:58:14,479 --> 03:58:19,359
>> I think was it dollar something more

4285
03:58:19,359 --> 03:58:21,600
>> than the so you know

4286
03:58:21,600 --> 03:58:21,920
>> what

4287
03:58:21,920 --> 03:58:23,199
>> than the

4288
03:58:23,199 --> 03:58:25,439
>> so he's cutting trees for a dollar more

4289
03:58:25,439 --> 03:58:28,560
an hour and you have to keep somebody

4290
03:58:28,560 --> 03:58:30,479
there who cut trees and gone at night

4291
03:58:30,479 --> 03:58:33,680
for an hour they'll just go back to

4292
03:58:33,680 --> 03:58:35,920
help.

4293
03:58:35,920 --> 03:58:41,760
It's just one of these items that the pay wasn't right for the the job and

4294
03:58:41,760 --> 03:58:44,399
it somehow that's how it was done and

4295
03:58:44,399 --> 03:58:47,590
you know

4296
03:58:47,600 --> 03:58:49,040
you want to rectify it if you'd like to

4297
03:58:49,040 --> 03:58:52,319
rectify it

4298
03:58:52,319 --> 03:58:54,640
but he's a tree trimmer

4299
03:58:54,640 --> 03:58:58,560
and he also maintains his um CDL so he

4300
03:58:58,560 --> 03:59:01,760
also has the CDL like everybody else but

4301
03:59:01,760 --> 03:59:05,990
he's not trim for a

4302
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,439
is responsible for equipment

4303
03:59:07,439 --> 03:59:08,960
maintenance. He makes sure his blades

4304
03:59:08,960 --> 03:59:10,160
are sharpened. He keeps his blade

4305
03:59:10,160 --> 03:59:11,279
sharpened. He takes care of his

4306
03:59:11,279 --> 03:59:14,239
equipment. He knows how to bloom truck.

4307
03:59:14,239 --> 03:59:17,199
They run they run stump grinder piece of

4308
03:59:17,199 --> 03:59:20,560
equipment on the um you know

4309
03:59:20,560 --> 03:59:22,800
the chipper on the back of the truck to

4310
03:59:22,800 --> 03:59:24,960
you know put all the locks in. It's a

4311
03:59:24,960 --> 03:59:31,349
dangerous job.

4312
03:59:31,359 --> 03:59:35,199
» Uh 871 and 120 that part one the year to

4313
03:59:35,199 --> 03:59:37,439
date that's 30,000

4314
03:59:37,439 --> 03:59:40,560
you can identify how busy seasons are

4315
03:59:40,560 --> 03:59:44,560
the gap on that well again the year

4316
03:59:44,560 --> 03:59:46,319
parks you have to go back and look and

4317
03:59:46,319 --> 03:59:52,870
see what was being spent in SN

4318
03:59:52,880 --> 03:59:54,880
question for parks

4319
03:59:54,880 --> 03:59:58,640
seeing none of the next page

4320
03:59:58,640 --> 04:00:04,630
pools maintainance

4321
04:00:04,640 --> 04:00:33,189
Maintenance by 9.24%.

4322
04:00:33,199 --> 04:00:35,600
again

4323
04:00:35,600 --> 04:00:38,479
helping with chemicals um moving

4324
04:00:38,479 --> 04:00:41,840
chemicals around our shelves there. Um

4325
04:00:41,840 --> 04:00:45,040
so the the pool maintenance equipment um

4326
04:00:45,040 --> 04:00:50,950
that item there came down PS maint

4327
04:00:50,960 --> 04:00:53,600
um where we've seen our increases is in

4328
04:00:53,600 --> 04:00:55,199
our fees for services. weekend

4329
04:00:55,199 --> 04:00:57,760
anticipated, you know, a rate increase

4330
04:00:57,760 --> 04:00:59,439
from Boys and Girls Club to do all the

4331
04:00:59,439 --> 04:01:01,760
lifeguarding. Again, their salaries are

4332
04:01:01,760 --> 04:01:04,319
going to go up. So, we did increase that

4333
04:01:04,319 --> 04:01:09,040
slightly from 202500 to 209 588. Um

4334
04:01:09,040 --> 04:01:14,720
supplies um slightly up 1750 to 2250. Um

4335
04:01:14,720 --> 04:01:16,720
closing and direct bids, we did drop

4336
04:01:16,720 --> 04:01:19,680
repairs uh 5,500.

4337
04:01:19,680 --> 04:01:22,790
Um,

4338
04:01:22,800 --> 04:01:25,359
you know, overtime

4339
04:01:25,359 --> 04:01:30,150
question for overtime.

4340
04:01:30,160 --> 04:01:32,640
» And the repairs every year on some of

4341
04:01:32,640 --> 04:01:35,120
the pools, nothing new, but the pools,

4342
04:01:35,120 --> 04:01:38,080
the health department has us co. Now,

4343
04:01:38,080 --> 04:01:39,920
this year, we had some paint left from

4344
04:01:39,920 --> 04:01:41,199
last year, so we could spend as much

4345
04:01:41,199 --> 04:01:42,800
because there was some of the um

4346
04:01:42,800 --> 04:01:45,439
rubberized paint um that our painter did

4347
04:01:45,439 --> 04:01:48,319
the the pools with. So, um the paint

4348
04:01:48,319 --> 04:01:50,160
will come out of that that paint. I

4349
04:01:50,160 --> 04:01:52,960
think the last time to go was around

4350
04:01:52,960 --> 04:01:54,800
$15,000.

4351
04:01:54,800 --> 04:01:57,359
Um and then it covers tile work and it

4352
04:01:57,359 --> 04:01:59,199
also covers every year at least we have

4353
04:01:59,199 --> 04:02:02,239
to have somebody come in and um certify

4354
04:02:02,239 --> 04:02:03,840
the

4355
04:02:03,840 --> 04:02:07,520
um the lifts um for the handicap lifts.

4356
04:02:07,520 --> 04:02:10,399
Usually maintenance on those company.

4357
04:02:10,399 --> 04:02:13,359
So, it's not just one pool. It's just

4358
04:02:13,359 --> 04:02:17,359
Yeah, it's black and bush. front street

4359
04:02:17,359 --> 04:02:19,439
is Central Park.

4360
04:02:19,439 --> 04:02:22,720
>> So, can you give us a recap of the

4361
04:02:22,720 --> 04:02:24,800
Central Park in terms of the changes

4362
04:02:24,800 --> 04:02:26,720
that was recently adopted in terms of

4363
04:02:26,720 --> 04:02:28,479
the attendance last year? I know we had

4364
04:02:28,479 --> 04:02:30,720
open to everybody this year. We kind of

4365
04:02:30,720 --> 04:02:33,279
cut it back to resident with with a

4366
04:02:33,279 --> 04:02:35,840
little bit of leeway in terms of who can

4367
04:02:35,840 --> 04:02:36,800
come.

4368
04:02:36,800 --> 04:02:38,319
>> Can you give us a snapshot of what

4369
04:02:38,319 --> 04:02:40,720
happened? How is it? Did it better?

4370
04:02:40,720 --> 04:02:42,560
It was uh the first week was really

4371
04:02:42,560 --> 04:02:43,840
tough because people didn't really

4372
04:02:43,840 --> 04:02:45,359
understand the changes that took place.

4373
04:02:45,359 --> 04:02:46,960
We we've seen a lot of people come out a

4374
04:02:46,960 --> 04:02:49,199
lot a lot of people if you look at your

4375
04:02:49,199 --> 04:02:51,359
driver's license says connectity on it.

4376
04:02:51,359 --> 04:02:53,199
We don't go by what's connected by the

4377
04:02:53,199 --> 04:02:55,199
way street business. A lot of people

4378
04:02:55,199 --> 04:02:56,479
don't understand that for mailing

4379
04:02:56,479 --> 04:02:58,880
purposes. The first four or five days I

4380
04:02:58,880 --> 04:03:00,319
actually stayed up. I worked the gate up

4381
04:03:00,319 --> 04:03:02,160
there with with our people and we

4382
04:03:02,160 --> 04:03:04,880
probably turned away 100 to 120 people a

4383
04:03:04,880 --> 04:03:08,880
day that were from Miss Una but we

4384
04:03:08,880 --> 04:03:10,080
didn't have line disconnect any

4385
04:03:10,080 --> 04:03:11,760
residents standing outside full looking

4386
04:03:11,760 --> 04:03:13,199
in while residents from other

4387
04:03:13,199 --> 04:03:15,439
communities were so it actually worked

4388
04:03:15,439 --> 04:03:16,720
some of the people from outside our

4389
04:03:16,720 --> 04:03:18,720
community were were a little iate with

4390
04:03:18,720 --> 04:03:20,880
us but after a while they understood and

4391
04:03:20,880 --> 04:03:22,319
then the scan people were very happy

4392
04:03:22,319 --> 04:03:23,600
because they got in the pool I don't

4393
04:03:23,600 --> 04:03:25,359
know how many came up said I stood

4394
04:03:25,359 --> 04:03:26,800
outside last year for two hours to get

4395
04:03:26,800 --> 04:03:28,960
in this pool but he can't put a front

4396
04:03:28,960 --> 04:03:30,560
water and this unit for swimming or

4397
04:03:30,560 --> 04:03:33,120
pool. So, it worked pretty good. It was

4398
04:03:33,120 --> 04:03:35,359
It worked out really good. And one of

4399
04:03:35,359 --> 04:03:37,359
the benefits we had with the school, our

4400
04:03:37,359 --> 04:03:38,880
arrangement with the school district was

4401
04:03:38,880 --> 04:03:40,080
really good this year. There was even

4402
04:03:40,080 --> 04:03:42,720
better security people up there. We had

4403
04:03:42,720 --> 04:03:44,479
some issues like the first week till the

4404
04:03:44,479 --> 04:03:46,319
kids got acclimated that we actually had

4405
04:03:46,319 --> 04:03:48,080
security at that point there.

4406
04:03:48,080 --> 04:03:49,920
>> It was good because the security people

4407
04:03:49,920 --> 04:03:53,439
knew the children had little issues in

4408
04:03:53,439 --> 04:03:55,120
the school. They knew they knew who they

4409
04:03:55,120 --> 04:03:57,040
were already and the security people

4410
04:03:57,040 --> 04:03:58,239
knew who they were. so that right away

4411
04:03:58,239 --> 04:03:59,840
they'd rather talk to him right away. So

4412
04:03:59,840 --> 04:04:01,279
it worked out really good.

4413
04:04:01,279 --> 04:04:04,000
>> What would you change or improve into

4414
04:04:04,000 --> 04:04:08,469
the next year? For example,

4415
04:04:08,479 --> 04:04:10,239
» one of the biggest problems we had is

4416
04:04:10,239 --> 04:04:12,720
people and the hygiene of their children

4417
04:04:12,720 --> 04:04:16,399
that would go down call a code brown.

4418
04:04:16,399 --> 04:04:19,040
That's that was a major problem that

4419
04:04:19,040 --> 04:04:20,720
happened a few times. At one time it was

4420
04:04:20,720 --> 04:04:21,840
really big. They had a call. We had

4421
04:04:21,840 --> 04:04:24,479
called me care. We had we had actual

4422
04:04:24,479 --> 04:04:28,560
post for 24 hours circulated,

4423
04:04:28,560 --> 04:04:30,319
>> you know, trying to get and it's posted

4424
04:04:30,319 --> 04:04:32,479
on all signs. It tells people that you

4425
04:04:32,479 --> 04:04:34,000
must wear the proper swimwear when

4426
04:04:34,000 --> 04:04:37,680
you're in the pool and

4427
04:04:37,680 --> 04:04:40,880
>> expensive too.

4428
04:04:40,880 --> 04:04:42,239
>> But how how would you address that in

4429
04:04:42,239 --> 04:04:47,750
the future?

4430
04:04:47,760 --> 04:04:49,920
» I think maybe we have to adjust the

4431
04:04:49,920 --> 04:04:51,199
parents. that they're dressing up. They

4432
04:04:51,199 --> 04:04:52,479
can with their children, explain to them

4433
04:04:52,479 --> 04:04:53,840
that they have to stay on top of that

4434
04:04:53,840 --> 04:04:55,120
because it causes a problem for the

4435
04:04:55,120 --> 04:04:58,800
whole pool. One of those not a bunch if

4436
04:04:58,800 --> 04:05:00,560
it happens in the baby pool because

4437
04:05:00,560 --> 04:05:02,399
that's an isolated pool that that shuts

4438
04:05:02,399 --> 04:05:04,160
down. That's fine. But when it happens

4439
04:05:04,160 --> 04:05:11,269
in the big pool that the whole

4440
04:05:11,279 --> 04:05:13,279
tested, everybody's going to be out of

4441
04:05:13,279 --> 04:05:15,199
it.

4442
04:05:15,199 --> 04:05:17,199
>> So, what is currently there? your

4443
04:05:17,199 --> 04:05:20,560
comfort moving into next year with those

4444
04:05:20,560 --> 04:05:21,199
rules.

4445
04:05:21,199 --> 04:05:22,399
>> Yeah, I think the rules are good. I

4446
04:05:22,399 --> 04:05:23,520
think everything that was put in place

4447
04:05:23,520 --> 04:05:25,040
that we discussed back in the springtime

4448
04:05:25,040 --> 04:05:26,560
worked out really good. I think it

4449
04:05:26,560 --> 04:05:29,279
worked out

4450
04:05:29,279 --> 04:05:31,920
>> and going in here too.

4451
04:05:31,920 --> 04:05:35,040
So, you know, the people from they they

4452
04:05:35,040 --> 04:05:37,120
know there's a little bit. So, the first

4453
04:05:37,120 --> 04:05:39,600
year like anything the first year is

4454
04:05:39,600 --> 04:05:41,760
it's the learning process.

4455
04:05:41,760 --> 04:05:43,600
>> Oh, and we've made arrangements. So, we

4456
04:05:43,600 --> 04:05:46,160
had made arrangements with we had uh one

4457
04:05:46,160 --> 04:05:48,319
of the Catholic schools or one of the

4458
04:05:48,319 --> 04:05:51,920
organizations we anticipated that

4459
04:05:51,920 --> 04:05:54,239
they had a bunch of sketity kids that

4460
04:05:54,239 --> 04:05:56,239
they identified. The problem was is they

4461
04:05:56,239 --> 04:05:59,920
brought their uh their sher with them

4462
04:05:59,920 --> 04:06:01,600
that weren't connectedity. We screened

4463
04:06:01,600 --> 04:06:04,000
them. We let them they called me before.

4464
04:06:04,000 --> 04:06:05,359
So I met them up there. We got them in

4465
04:06:05,359 --> 04:06:06,399
regard to the pool.

4466
04:06:06,399 --> 04:06:06,720
>> Yeah.

4467
04:06:06,720 --> 04:06:08,399
>> So we accommodated that. That was one of

4468
04:06:08,399 --> 04:06:09,520
the questions that everybody had brought

4469
04:06:09,520 --> 04:06:12,800
up and we worked that out.

4470
04:06:12,800 --> 04:06:15,439
>> Go ahead, please. Do we quack and bush

4471
04:06:15,439 --> 04:06:17,840
on street? It's residents only as well

4472
04:06:17,840 --> 04:06:21,040
there as correct. Not long

4473
04:06:21,040 --> 04:06:21,840
anybody

4474
04:06:21,840 --> 04:06:25,680
>> any just central

4475
04:06:25,680 --> 04:06:28,960
the uh

4476
04:06:28,960 --> 04:06:31,279
front street where people have to be you

4477
04:06:31,279 --> 04:06:32,720
know turned up turned away.

4478
04:06:32,720 --> 04:06:33,439
>> Thank you.

4479
04:06:33,439 --> 04:06:34,720
>> Go ahead please.

4480
04:06:34,720 --> 04:06:36,479
>> So the what you just explained about

4481
04:06:36,479 --> 04:06:38,000
chat rooms because they were from a

4482
04:06:38,000 --> 04:06:40,000
school and children were from the um

4483
04:06:40,000 --> 04:06:42,399
from the city. Does that extend to

4484
04:06:42,399 --> 04:06:44,080
parents who live outside the city and

4485
04:06:44,080 --> 04:06:45,520
you can confirm that their child goes to

4486
04:06:45,520 --> 04:06:46,239
school there?

4487
04:06:46,239 --> 04:06:48,160
>> If they can confirm that and that's one

4488
04:06:48,160 --> 04:06:49,359
of the thing the great part of having

4489
04:06:49,359 --> 04:06:50,720
the school security people there. We

4490
04:06:50,720 --> 04:06:52,560
have the school system there. I forgot

4491
04:06:52,560 --> 04:06:54,239
what it's called in

4492
04:06:54,239 --> 04:06:55,439
>> the safety team.

4493
04:06:55,439 --> 04:06:58,000
>> The safety

4494
04:06:58,000 --> 04:07:00,960
go tell you if you were connect so so

4495
04:07:00,960 --> 04:07:02,399
you're safety school.

4496
04:07:02,399 --> 04:07:04,160
>> Yeah. The safety team had it there. So

4497
04:07:04,160 --> 04:07:06,080
if you came you were the stepfather and

4498
04:07:06,080 --> 04:07:09,199
you said oh my son goes to school.

4499
04:07:09,199 --> 04:07:11,120
>> We brought his name in said fine. at me

4500
04:07:11,120 --> 04:07:13,520
brought them right in. We had a lot of

4501
04:07:13,520 --> 04:07:15,520
people show up. We had people show up

4502
04:07:15,520 --> 04:07:18,319
that claimed they were connected, but

4503
04:07:18,319 --> 04:07:19,680
when they ran them through the system,

4504
04:07:19,680 --> 04:07:21,199
they didn't pop up in the system and

4505
04:07:21,199 --> 04:07:22,880
they tried to and to school safety

4506
04:07:22,880 --> 04:07:24,160
people said, "No, they're in the school

4507
04:07:24,160 --> 04:07:25,439
system, they will pop up in that

4508
04:07:25,439 --> 04:07:27,840
system." So I don't want to extend this

4509
04:07:27,840 --> 04:07:29,359
conversation because it's really

4510
04:07:29,359 --> 04:07:31,359
something that

4511
04:07:31,359 --> 04:07:33,920
however a child lives in you go to

4512
04:07:33,920 --> 04:07:35,760
another school like a charter school in

4513
04:07:35,760 --> 04:07:37,600
Albany or some place they won't show up

4514
04:07:37,600 --> 04:07:40,880
in the system but still resident and so

4515
04:07:40,880 --> 04:07:42,319
I don't know how that's getting handled

4516
04:07:42,319 --> 04:07:44,160
but that's another situation that was

4517
04:07:44,160 --> 04:07:45,199
brought forward.

4518
04:07:45,199 --> 04:07:47,040
>> So

4519
04:07:47,040 --> 04:07:50,070
there

4520
04:07:50,080 --> 04:07:51,600
I don't want to I don't want to try to

4521
04:07:51,600 --> 04:07:53,760
get you to do the whole uh figure it out

4522
04:07:53,760 --> 04:07:55,840
thing here. I just want to be able to

4523
04:07:55,840 --> 04:07:57,520
say those kind of things come up. So I

4524
04:07:57,520 --> 04:08:00,720
just was wondering if there was ways to

4525
04:08:00,720 --> 04:08:03,439
any plans for next year.

4526
04:08:03,439 --> 04:08:06,399
>> So um there might be like some

4527
04:08:06,399 --> 04:08:09,040
more you know extreme extenduating

4528
04:08:09,040 --> 04:08:12,239
circumstances for maybe maybe kids but

4529
04:08:12,239 --> 04:08:14,880
any kid that is say that you live in

4530
04:08:14,880 --> 04:08:16,960
Skenctity and you go to a charter school

4531
04:08:16,960 --> 04:08:19,600
in Troy or Albany or something like that

4532
04:08:19,600 --> 04:08:21,920
you still will show up in the database.

4533
04:08:21,920 --> 04:08:24,160
If you are a kid that goes to that lives

4534
04:08:24,160 --> 04:08:26,479
connectity and you go to some of the

4535
04:08:26,479 --> 04:08:29,600
private schools um

4536
04:08:29,600 --> 04:08:32,000
well you can and still should show up in

4537
04:08:32,000 --> 04:08:33,760
the database that might be like I said

4538
04:08:33,760 --> 04:08:36,000
that might be a little a little more

4539
04:08:36,000 --> 04:08:38,000
tricky but definitely charter schools

4540
04:08:38,000 --> 04:08:40,880
there still connected these cities.

4541
04:08:40,880 --> 04:08:42,560
>> Yeah, we're talking there was a few

4542
04:08:42,560 --> 04:08:44,319
problems we manage that

4543
04:08:44,319 --> 04:08:45,840
>> but some of the things we identified

4544
04:08:45,840 --> 04:08:48,080
with people we know because what we had

4545
04:08:48,080 --> 04:08:50,800
is we denied people access to the pool.

4546
04:08:50,800 --> 04:08:52,880
There was people said, "Give me $10 and

4547
04:08:52,880 --> 04:08:56,000
I'll bring you." They were doing

4548
04:08:56,000 --> 04:09:00,870
wheels out there.

4549
04:09:00,880 --> 04:09:03,120
» But it's really it's exceptions,

4550
04:09:03,120 --> 04:09:03,760
remember? I mean,

4551
04:09:03,760 --> 04:09:05,439
>> right. It's not the norm. It's just

4552
04:09:05,439 --> 04:09:07,680
certain things that happen that like you

4553
04:09:07,680 --> 04:09:09,040
said, Mary. Different things that we'll

4554
04:09:09,040 --> 04:09:10,640
address as we as we move forward again

4555
04:09:10,640 --> 04:09:11,760
next year, we'll address them. We'll

4556
04:09:11,760 --> 04:09:16,229
look at the situations.

4557
04:09:16,239 --> 04:09:17,600
» I was going to say briefly, you talked

4558
04:09:17,600 --> 04:09:18,960
about those code rounds. Would you say

4559
04:09:18,960 --> 04:09:22,160
it's more to like parents not knowing or

4560
04:09:22,160 --> 04:09:24,560
lack ability to the resources? I was

4561
04:09:24,560 --> 04:09:25,600
thinking

4562
04:09:25,600 --> 04:09:28,800
>> cost of clean. Is there any thought in

4563
04:09:28,800 --> 04:09:30,399
like hedging the bets and offering

4564
04:09:30,399 --> 04:09:33,920
services or offering supplies?

4565
04:09:33,920 --> 04:09:35,760
>> I'm sorry. I don't understand.

4566
04:09:35,760 --> 04:09:39,199
>> So it cost dollars to to remedy that

4567
04:09:39,199 --> 04:09:43,279
type of situation would have

4568
04:09:43,279 --> 04:09:44,960
>> Oh, I saw I didn't know what you I

4569
04:09:44,960 --> 04:09:47,040
didn't

4570
04:09:47,040 --> 04:09:50,399
I understand. It wasn't the diaper. They

4571
04:09:50,399 --> 04:09:53,279
were just an accident.

4572
04:09:53,279 --> 04:09:54,560
>> Oh,

4573
04:09:54,560 --> 04:09:58,160
>> they were probably

4574
04:09:58,160 --> 04:09:59,840
>> they just didn't make it.

4575
04:09:59,840 --> 04:10:02,960
>> But to Mr. Williams point in the that's

4576
04:10:02,960 --> 04:10:05,279
a couple bucks and I don't want to speak

4577
04:10:05,279 --> 04:10:06,800
for the school district, but there's a

4578
04:10:06,800 --> 04:10:09,040
lot of resources that you know even

4579
04:10:09,040 --> 04:10:11,040
through sketity shares we could stock

4580
04:10:11,040 --> 04:10:13,279
something like that.

4581
04:10:13,279 --> 04:10:14,800
>> But that's a really good point.

4582
04:10:14,800 --> 04:10:17,359
>> It's cool. The

4583
04:10:17,359 --> 04:10:19,600
t-shirts or any other pantries and

4584
04:10:19,600 --> 04:10:20,800
>> we could do a special

4585
04:10:20,800 --> 04:10:23,359
>> a special for the summer. That's not a

4586
04:10:23,359 --> 04:10:25,120
bad idea. But even, you know, at the

4587
04:10:25,120 --> 04:10:28,720
pantry, I mean, we keep some diapers.

4588
04:10:28,720 --> 04:10:31,760
Um, it's not something that sometimes

4589
04:10:31,760 --> 04:10:33,279
people just ask us, you know what I

4590
04:10:33,279 --> 04:10:34,000
mean?

4591
04:10:34,000 --> 04:10:35,600
>> Um, so we do have some diapers.

4592
04:10:35,600 --> 04:10:37,760
>> Yeah, they're the swim diapers.

4593
04:10:37,760 --> 04:10:39,600
>> Swimming

4594
04:10:39,600 --> 04:10:41,439
explain what the swim diapers were

4595
04:10:41,439 --> 04:10:42,720
because a lot of the people didn't

4596
04:10:42,720 --> 04:10:44,160
really understand what the swim diaper

4597
04:10:44,160 --> 04:10:44,399
was.

4598
04:10:44,399 --> 04:10:46,800
>> It's a good idea for us to think about.

4599
04:10:46,800 --> 04:10:49,840
We not

4600
04:10:49,840 --> 04:10:51,359
It's a special type paper.

4601
04:10:51,359 --> 04:10:51,840
>> Yeah,

4602
04:10:51,840 --> 04:10:52,560
>> right. It is

4603
04:10:52,560 --> 04:10:53,920
>> good suggestions. Something that we

4604
04:10:53,920 --> 04:10:57,040
should look into next year

4605
04:10:57,040 --> 04:10:59,120
>> to have that available. It's a good idea

4606
04:10:59,120 --> 04:11:02,080
>> for hearings.

4607
04:11:02,080 --> 04:11:04,080
>> Okay. Any other questions before we move

4608
04:11:04,080 --> 04:11:06,800
into p

4609
04:11:06,800 --> 04:11:08,319
56

4610
04:11:08,319 --> 04:11:12,550
waves administration?

4611
04:11:12,560 --> 04:11:15,520
» I'm sorry.

4612
04:11:15,520 --> 04:11:20,389
>> Go ahead.

4613
04:11:20,399 --> 04:11:29,429
Oh, you want to talk capitals?

4614
04:11:29,439 --> 04:11:31,680
» Yes, we do.

4615
04:11:31,680 --> 04:11:32,800
>> Yes, there are.

4616
04:11:32,800 --> 04:11:36,960
>> So, before we turn to P6,

4617
04:11:36,960 --> 04:11:42,239
let's uh go to capital with parts

4618
04:11:42,239 --> 04:11:46,160
>> before we let uh take out there. just

4619
04:11:46,160 --> 04:11:53,110
low speed

4620
04:11:53,120 --> 04:11:54,800
property management. But I'm pretty sure

4621
04:11:54,800 --> 04:11:57,439
that I know the grounds master mower is

4622
04:11:57,439 --> 04:11:59,040
one of the bigger mowers now to do the

4623
04:11:59,040 --> 04:12:01,439
fields. Um it'll be the new ground park

4624
04:12:01,439 --> 04:12:05,520
field. It will be the the ball field the

4625
04:12:05,520 --> 04:12:07,680
C diamond field diamond. So that's the

4626
04:12:07,680 --> 04:12:09,199
new master mower to do the bigger

4627
04:12:09,199 --> 04:12:11,680
fields. Okay. Uh that would be in the

4628
04:12:11,680 --> 04:12:16,640
parks and the F350 regular cab with

4629
04:12:16,640 --> 04:12:20,560
plows, two of them. Was that both Chris?

4630
04:12:20,560 --> 04:12:22,080
Do you remember? Was that both for parks

4631
04:12:22,080 --> 04:12:25,359
or was one parked and one property man?

4632
04:12:25,359 --> 04:12:27,199
>> Um

4633
04:12:27,199 --> 04:12:27,840
both.

4634
04:12:27,840 --> 04:12:29,040
>> Okay. So they were both parked and

4635
04:12:29,040 --> 04:12:31,520
they're going to replace any any vehicle

4636
04:12:31,520 --> 04:12:35,279
replaced is 10 plus years older. And I

4637
04:12:35,279 --> 04:12:37,680
think some of these pickups go back to

4638
04:12:37,680 --> 04:12:42,880
probably 15 or 16 years old. So they're

4639
04:12:42,880 --> 04:12:49,269
>> the vehicles in parks are

4640
04:12:49,279 --> 04:12:51,199
» so the bottom two were from the parks.

4641
04:12:51,199 --> 04:12:52,960
the other ones if you want just real

4642
04:12:52,960 --> 04:12:55,439
quick because we did property management

4643
04:12:55,439 --> 04:12:57,120
um the rolloff truck that's the property

4644
04:12:57,120 --> 04:13:01,750
management truck that

4645
04:13:01,760 --> 04:13:03,680
truck is getting quite old and some

4646
04:13:03,680 --> 04:13:05,760
rolloff boxes I think that will give us

4647
04:13:05,760 --> 04:13:08,880
about eight boxes $45,000

4648
04:13:08,880 --> 04:13:11,279
and the Toro with the dingle attachment

4649
04:13:11,279 --> 04:13:13,920
is a small piece of equipment that we

4650
04:13:13,920 --> 04:13:16,960
can go in and appear to be easier some

4651
04:13:16,960 --> 04:13:18,960
of these um abandoned properties or

4652
04:13:18,960 --> 04:13:20,800
properties that people have to take care

4653
04:13:20,800 --> 04:13:21,920
rather than trying to use a weed

4654
04:13:21,920 --> 04:13:23,359
whacker. It's a little bit beefier piece

4655
04:13:23,359 --> 04:13:25,520
of equipment. Uh the dingo you can stand

4656
04:13:25,520 --> 04:13:29,760
on it and cut your head. Um you know

4657
04:13:29,760 --> 04:13:31,439
some of these properties it's it's not a

4658
04:13:31,439 --> 04:13:41,030
long cut. It's a lot of brush

4659
04:13:41,040 --> 04:13:44,880
» questions on this capital project.

4660
04:13:44,880 --> 04:13:47,760
Thank you so much.

4661
04:13:47,760 --> 04:13:49,760
>> Thank you. Thank you.

4662
04:13:49,760 --> 04:13:55,429
We're going to go to

4663
04:13:55,439 --> 04:14:03,030
» 56.

4664
04:14:03,040 --> 04:14:05,120
» We hit street from big.

4665
04:14:05,120 --> 04:14:07,520
>> Yeah, I was going to wait until we

4666
04:14:07,520 --> 04:14:15,590
>> Yeah, that's why I did

4667
04:14:15,600 --> 04:14:19,910
» socks.

4668
04:14:19,920 --> 04:14:22,080
Starting with police administration.

4669
04:14:22,080 --> 04:14:24,159
>> Yes.

4670
04:14:24,159 --> 04:14:25,760
>> Police administration decreased by

4671
04:14:25,760 --> 04:14:29,840
27.04% 04% from 299,41

4672
04:14:29,840 --> 04:14:36,710
to 218,5,000

4673
04:14:36,720 --> 04:14:39,520
» just

4674
04:14:39,520 --> 04:14:42,630
sorry

4675
04:14:42,640 --> 04:14:44,479
» obviously we did the waste

4676
04:14:44,479 --> 04:14:46,800
administration we did move some um some

4677
04:14:46,800 --> 04:14:51,840
salaries around um help fund

4678
04:14:51,840 --> 04:14:54,159
my back

4679
04:14:54,159 --> 04:14:55,920
watery

4680
04:14:55,920 --> 04:14:58,479
water waste water. So we move that

4681
04:14:58,479 --> 04:15:01,199
outside of the one out of the waste

4682
04:15:01,199 --> 04:15:04,800
administration budget. Um

4683
04:15:04,800 --> 04:15:07,279
that you know actually reduced obviously

4684
04:15:07,279 --> 04:15:11,760
the um you know the 100 million um it

4685
04:15:11,760 --> 04:15:14,080
reduced the longevity

4686
04:15:14,080 --> 04:15:18,309
or kind of stay the same

4687
04:15:18,319 --> 04:15:24,710
tools and uniforms stay the same here.

4688
04:15:24,720 --> 04:15:27,279
go down through we made some cuts almost

4689
04:15:27,279 --> 04:15:28,960
and everything that we could. If you

4690
04:15:28,960 --> 04:15:32,080
look at supplies, we went from 1750 to

4691
04:15:32,080 --> 04:15:34,239
a,000 and based on looking at what we

4692
04:15:34,239 --> 04:15:37,359
spent so far this year

4693
04:15:37,359 --> 04:15:40,000
for next year.

4694
04:15:40,000 --> 04:15:42,640
That would be the waste administration

4695
04:15:42,640 --> 04:15:44,720
waste collection.

4696
04:15:44,720 --> 04:15:48,469
No.

4697
04:15:48,479 --> 04:15:51,600
» So you move yourself out of part of your

4698
04:15:51,600 --> 04:15:54,080
salary administration to where?

4699
04:15:54,080 --> 04:15:55,199
>> Water.

4700
04:15:55,199 --> 04:15:57,840
>> All. So you all right now?

4701
04:15:57,840 --> 04:16:02,080
>> So 5050 water.

4702
04:16:02,080 --> 04:16:05,840
>> Okay. Um the second part is for the

4703
04:16:05,840 --> 04:16:08,720
assistant solid waste supervisor. Is

4704
04:16:08,720 --> 04:16:11,279
that also um

4705
04:16:11,279 --> 04:16:12,159
traffic?

4706
04:16:12,159 --> 04:16:16,710
>> Yeah, that's back.

4707
04:16:16,720 --> 04:16:18,800
» Any other questions for W

4708
04:16:18,800 --> 04:16:21,520
administration?

4709
04:16:21,520 --> 04:16:25,840
>> See, now we'll move to W collection.

4710
04:16:25,840 --> 04:16:38,550
>> Waste collection approximately 30%,000.

4711
04:16:38,560 --> 04:16:39,920
The two assistants on the way

4712
04:16:39,920 --> 04:16:41,600
supervisors are contractual. Again,

4713
04:16:41,600 --> 04:16:45,600
there's free conditions. So again,

4714
04:16:45,600 --> 04:16:48,239
that's a contractual through CSCA.

4715
04:16:48,239 --> 04:16:51,279
Um labor loader,

4716
04:16:51,279 --> 04:16:54,560
we are requesting two more in waste

4717
04:16:54,560 --> 04:16:56,479
collection. Five last year, we're

4718
04:16:56,479 --> 04:16:59,520
looking at seven this year. Um motor

4719
04:16:59,520 --> 04:17:01,760
equipment operators are maintaining 15.

4720
04:17:01,760 --> 04:17:03,199
Those are the drivers. Those are the

4721
04:17:03,199 --> 04:17:07,040
annuals mediums and the labor loaders.

4722
04:17:07,040 --> 04:17:10,319
on the back. Um, we rely on them to do a

4723
04:17:10,319 --> 04:17:14,880
good job. We run 14 seasonals.

4724
04:17:14,880 --> 04:17:21,510
Um, and we have the labor loaders.

4725
04:17:21,520 --> 04:17:23,439
The big jump. Yeah, the big jump in

4726
04:17:23,439 --> 04:17:25,439
season label loaders is to really pay

4727
04:17:25,439 --> 04:17:27,439
the cost. Like we talked about, we

4728
04:17:27,439 --> 04:17:29,920
didn't have seasons in waste. They were

4729
04:17:29,920 --> 04:17:32,800
being pulled from staff. So, uh, there

4730
04:17:32,800 --> 04:17:35,600
was a line headed to the 8161, which is

4731
04:17:35,600 --> 04:17:38,800
the seasonal labor loader variance 214

4732
04:17:38,800 --> 04:17:40,560
396

4733
04:17:40,560 --> 04:17:43,279
that'll reflect 14

4734
04:17:43,279 --> 04:17:47,760
current season that we have on that

4735
04:17:47,760 --> 04:17:49,840
>> and that we're going to see that go back

4736
04:17:49,840 --> 04:17:50,720
to snack there

4737
04:17:50,720 --> 04:17:52,560
>> no that's came out of snack

4738
04:17:52,560 --> 04:17:53,439
>> oh okay

4739
04:17:53,439 --> 04:17:55,760
>> because again it wasn't reflective of

4740
04:17:55,760 --> 04:17:59,199
the true costs in waste

4741
04:17:59,199 --> 04:18:01,680
>> because we were paying snap

4742
04:18:01,680 --> 04:18:04,000
>> right okay

4743
04:18:04,000 --> 04:18:07,279
>> so these are these show the true actual

4744
04:18:07,279 --> 04:18:08,720
department.

4745
04:18:08,720 --> 04:18:11,920
>> So now I know over the years we we

4746
04:18:11,920 --> 04:18:13,520
bombarded your question as to why the

4747
04:18:13,520 --> 04:18:15,199
vice map is so

4748
04:18:15,199 --> 04:18:16,720
>> overloaded in all these costs,

4749
04:18:16,720 --> 04:18:18,399
>> right? And it was just that you know

4750
04:18:18,399 --> 04:18:20,960
they put the seasonal in one area and it

4751
04:18:20,960 --> 04:18:23,199
was a general fund.

4752
04:18:23,199 --> 04:18:25,520
Now what we're trying to do is put the

4753
04:18:25,520 --> 04:18:30,560
cost into the departments that they go.

4754
04:18:30,560 --> 04:18:32,800
>> Um

4755
04:18:32,800 --> 04:18:34,800
so that's those are the biggest I'll

4756
04:18:34,800 --> 04:18:37,439
take some questions.

4757
04:18:37,439 --> 04:18:39,040
>> It was waste working hours.

4758
04:18:39,040 --> 04:18:41,199
>> That was I think that was me.

4759
04:18:41,199 --> 04:18:44,319
>> That's the $2 everybody in waste.

4760
04:18:44,319 --> 04:18:46,640
>> Everybody in the waist receives $2 from

4761
04:18:46,640 --> 04:18:48,720
the work. Um and if they come from

4762
04:18:48,720 --> 04:18:51,120
another department for that day because

4763
04:18:51,120 --> 04:18:53,199
you know we were short-handed, they pick

4764
04:18:53,199 --> 04:18:56,399
up that $2.

4765
04:18:56,399 --> 04:18:58,399
Mr. Williams.

4766
04:18:58,399 --> 04:19:00,239
>> Yes. I ask what's the pay rate for

4767
04:19:00,239 --> 04:19:01,520
seasons?

4768
04:19:01,520 --> 04:19:04,399
>> Yep.

4769
04:19:04,399 --> 04:19:12,149
Oh, damn.

4770
04:19:12,159 --> 04:19:14,159
I guess

4771
04:19:14,159 --> 04:19:16,960
>> I'm sure all the pockets.

4772
04:19:16,960 --> 04:19:18,960
>> Um,

4773
04:19:18,960 --> 04:19:22,239
right now for 2025, a labor loader is

4774
04:19:22,239 --> 04:19:24,960
21108. Okay,

4775
04:19:24,960 --> 04:19:28,399
>> that's a labor and they get $2 obviously

4776
04:19:28,399 --> 04:19:32,479
for being engaged. The seasonal 1750 and

4777
04:19:32,479 --> 04:19:39,110
they get $2 more for being anyway

4778
04:19:39,120 --> 04:19:42,080
» $2 at that time.

4779
04:19:42,080 --> 04:19:43,760
>> That's across the board whether you're

4780
04:19:43,760 --> 04:19:46,640
seasonal, whether you're if you're

4781
04:19:46,640 --> 04:19:48,880
assigned to waste,

4782
04:19:48,880 --> 04:19:51,680
you get the $2 more an hour. Um it's

4783
04:19:51,680 --> 04:19:53,520
really because they're out there today

4784
04:19:53,520 --> 04:19:58,560
in the pouring rain out there with other

4785
04:19:58,560 --> 04:20:00,880
pullbody staff for sure. They get that

4786
04:20:00,880 --> 04:20:04,000
$2 for the for the day's work, too.

4787
04:20:04,000 --> 04:20:04,479
>> Yeah.

4788
04:20:04,479 --> 04:20:07,520
>> There there's also an additional dollar

4789
04:20:07,520 --> 04:20:10,319
if they're one man on the back of the

4790
04:20:10,319 --> 04:20:14,640
truck versus a two man.

4791
04:20:14,640 --> 04:20:15,920
>> That's great.

4792
04:20:15,920 --> 04:20:18,000
>> They they have the option. It's not uh

4793
04:20:18,000 --> 04:20:20,239
it's not mandatory, but if we run short

4794
04:20:20,239 --> 04:20:21,760
and somebody says, "I don't mind. I'll

4795
04:20:21,760 --> 04:20:24,960
load long." They pick up another dollar.

4796
04:20:24,960 --> 04:20:26,880
So

4797
04:20:26,880 --> 04:20:30,000
>> do we see that regularly

4798
04:20:30,000 --> 04:20:31,920
one person?

4799
04:20:31,920 --> 04:20:33,760
I know we blast here sometime we talk

4800
04:20:33,760 --> 04:20:35,680
about

4801
04:20:35,680 --> 04:20:37,680
stuff

4802
04:20:37,680 --> 04:20:41,680
talking about people you know over

4803
04:20:41,680 --> 04:20:43,040
>> you see that often

4804
04:20:43,040 --> 04:20:50,080
>> there are some guys that you know they work hard and you know they will if

4805
04:20:50,080 --> 04:20:51,359
I want that extra

4806
04:20:51,359 --> 04:20:53,439
>> there's a lot of guys that actually ask

4807
04:20:53,439 --> 04:20:56,319
for it to be alone

4808
04:20:56,319 --> 04:21:00,080
that that want that extra dollar

4809
04:21:00,080 --> 04:21:03,910
that's a tough

4810
04:21:03,920 --> 04:21:08,550
It's a really tough job.

4811
04:21:08,560 --> 04:21:09,439
» Question please.

4812
04:21:09,439 --> 04:21:13,279
>> Is that a contract agree? That 1750 1950

4813
04:21:13,279 --> 04:21:14,720
is that a contract agree?

4814
04:21:14,720 --> 04:21:17,199
>> Yeah, that's the seasons are still under

4815
04:21:17,199 --> 04:21:20,319
the under the 1037 agreement and that $2

4816
04:21:20,319 --> 04:21:25,429
part of that agreement.

4817
04:21:25,439 --> 04:21:27,120
It's probably the worst time to ask this

4818
04:21:27,120 --> 04:21:28,560
being that we're going in negotiations,

4819
04:21:28,560 --> 04:21:33,199
but like how are we situated uh in

4820
04:21:33,199 --> 04:21:35,199
comparison to like other local

4821
04:21:35,199 --> 04:21:36,239
municipalities over here?

4822
04:21:36,239 --> 04:21:42,479
>> There's not a lot of local people that pick up.

4823
04:21:42,479 --> 04:21:45,439
just different, you know, like Mosqu,

4824
04:21:45,439 --> 04:21:47,040
they're all picking up, you know, they

4825
04:21:47,040 --> 04:21:49,040
all

4826
04:21:49,040 --> 04:21:50,479
>> um you know, there's not a lot of teams

4827
04:21:50,479 --> 04:21:52,239
that actually have guys on the back of

4828
04:21:52,239 --> 04:21:54,239
the truck anymore,

4829
04:21:54,239 --> 04:21:56,479
>> right?

4830
04:21:56,479 --> 04:21:59,680
>> And they are up. So,

4831
04:21:59,680 --> 04:22:03,600
>> um I mean, you can look around.

4832
04:22:03,600 --> 04:22:06,479
>> I was just Yeah, just

4833
04:22:06,479 --> 04:22:08,560
>> I just went back

4834
04:22:08,560 --> 04:22:11,439
this over and over safety.

4835
04:22:11,439 --> 04:22:13,120
Are we still having that issue? People

4836
04:22:13,120 --> 04:22:14,080
out.

4837
04:22:14,080 --> 04:22:15,520
>> They're showing up with safety boots.

4838
04:22:15,520 --> 04:22:16,800
Are they getting reimbured? And they

4839
04:22:16,800 --> 04:22:17,359
will ring it.

4840
04:22:17,359 --> 04:22:19,439
>> They get reimbured. The checks go up by

4841
04:22:19,439 --> 04:22:23,990
August. Um

4842
04:22:24,000 --> 04:22:28,550
» I don't see them wearing them.

4843
04:22:28,560 --> 04:22:30,720
» We have some videos. We have pictures.

4844
04:22:30,720 --> 04:22:32,720
Uh people are sending that these guys

4845
04:22:32,720 --> 04:22:33,359
around.

4846
04:22:33,359 --> 04:22:36,159
>> It's a tough point with

4847
04:22:36,159 --> 04:22:39,199
>> We could send them all home and pick up

4848
04:22:39,199 --> 04:22:41,840
the garbage.

4849
04:22:41,840 --> 04:22:43,840
That's it is something that we need to

4850
04:22:43,840 --> 04:22:46,000
>> we remind them they get they get their

4851
04:22:46,000 --> 04:22:48,080
safety glasses, they get their gloves,

4852
04:22:48,080 --> 04:22:51,040
they get their safety vests

4853
04:22:51,040 --> 04:22:54,720
about safety boots and a while and they

4854
04:22:54,720 --> 04:22:56,319
because they're on their feet walking

4855
04:22:56,319 --> 04:22:59,680
down the streets all day long. Um, we

4856
04:22:59,680 --> 04:23:05,600
can be more diligent. Um, but we

4857
04:23:05,600 --> 04:23:06,000
>> so

4858
04:23:06,000 --> 04:23:09,120
>> I I I don't see many honestly

4859
04:23:09,120 --> 04:23:11,920
I don't see a lot of feet injuries,

4860
04:23:11,920 --> 04:23:13,840
you know, twisted ankles and stuff like

4861
04:23:13,840 --> 04:23:16,239
that. A lot of uh, you know, it's back

4862
04:23:16,239 --> 04:23:18,319
injuries, a shoulder, it's a it's an

4863
04:23:18,319 --> 04:23:20,800
elbow, it's they get their fingers

4864
04:23:20,800 --> 04:23:24,319
crushed in the machine. Um, you know,

4865
04:23:24,319 --> 04:23:26,159
that that's the injuries we've seen. And

4866
04:23:26,159 --> 04:23:29,279
I don't want to say that I'm fighting

4867
04:23:29,279 --> 04:23:34,720
for, you know, sneakers or boots, but

4868
04:23:34,720 --> 04:23:36,800
it's a tough job that these guys have on

4869
04:23:36,800 --> 04:23:41,520
their feet all day uh running around.

4870
04:23:41,520 --> 04:23:43,600
>> Yeah. I I think that the whole idea is

4871
04:23:43,600 --> 04:23:46,720
for them to, you know, show up show up,

4872
04:23:46,720 --> 04:23:48,880
have a safe working environment, and be

4873
04:23:48,880 --> 04:23:51,040
back home with their family. I I go

4874
04:23:51,040 --> 04:23:54,000
through these boxes of of safety guys

4875
04:23:54,000 --> 04:23:58,239
and boxes to give these guys safety, you

4876
04:23:58,239 --> 04:24:00,159
know, because I want them wearing, you

4877
04:24:00,159 --> 04:24:02,319
know, and

4878
04:24:02,319 --> 04:24:03,840
you have a lot of the tough guy

4879
04:24:03,840 --> 04:24:07,199
mentalities out there,

4880
04:24:07,199 --> 04:24:08,640
you know, the next thing you know,

4881
04:24:08,640 --> 04:24:10,479
they're they're gone.

4882
04:24:10,479 --> 04:24:15,600
So there's no way to mandate that

4883
04:24:15,600 --> 04:24:17,680
they had that horrible accident which is

4884
04:24:17,680 --> 04:24:20,000
>> odd

4885
04:24:20,000 --> 04:24:21,040
though.

4886
04:24:21,040 --> 04:24:27,349
>> It is mandated. But like Paul says

4887
04:24:27,359 --> 04:24:29,120
if we send them all home at the end of

4888
04:24:29,120 --> 04:24:30,880
the day the garbage isn't going to get

4889
04:24:30,880 --> 04:24:34,720
picked up. You know, it's it's a tough

4890
04:24:34,720 --> 04:24:37,040
job. You can have to

4891
04:24:37,040 --> 04:24:39,920
>> you can chase it and you know down the

4892
04:24:39,920 --> 04:24:41,120
next lock and take them put them in

4893
04:24:41,120 --> 04:24:44,080
their pocket. You know, you you can't be

4894
04:24:44,080 --> 04:24:44,880
there.

4895
04:24:44,880 --> 04:24:46,239
>> How would you do that?

4896
04:24:46,239 --> 04:24:48,080
>> You can tell them every day, we want you

4897
04:24:48,080 --> 04:24:49,600
to come in. We have to be safe. We want

4898
04:24:49,600 --> 04:24:51,680
you to go home. Your family safe.

4899
04:24:51,680 --> 04:24:55,520
>> Okay. But you can't be on every truck

4900
04:24:55,520 --> 04:24:57,760
making sure they're doing exactly what

4901
04:24:57,760 --> 04:24:59,840
you want all the time. And safety shoes

4902
04:24:59,840 --> 04:25:02,479
is in the contract. It has to be across

4903
04:25:02,479 --> 04:25:04,800
the board, not just waste,

4904
04:25:04,800 --> 04:25:08,960
>> water, sewer, parks, map, streets,

4905
04:25:08,960 --> 04:25:12,159
>> everybody. If you're And we want

4906
04:25:12,159 --> 04:25:14,080
everybody

4907
04:25:14,080 --> 04:25:17,760
>> and like Chris said is most of our I

4908
04:25:17,760 --> 04:25:19,120
don't remember the last time somebody,

4909
04:25:19,120 --> 04:25:21,279
you know, had a foot injury. It's it's

4910
04:25:21,279 --> 04:25:22,880
obviously they hurt their back. They

4911
04:25:22,880 --> 04:25:24,800
sprained their back, their shoulder, an

4912
04:25:24,800 --> 04:25:28,560
elbow. Um, and

4913
04:25:28,560 --> 04:25:32,309
we give them everything they need.

4914
04:25:32,319 --> 04:25:36,800
So, so I imagine the safety boost is the

4915
04:25:36,800 --> 04:25:38,399
primary functions like the steel toe

4916
04:25:38,399 --> 04:25:40,399
type of things that we're trying to

4917
04:25:40,399 --> 04:25:41,920
>> Yeah, they they have to have OSHA

4918
04:25:41,920 --> 04:25:44,640
approved which can be plastic now.

4919
04:25:44,640 --> 04:25:47,040
There's composits

4920
04:25:47,040 --> 04:25:50,080
really cold. They have composits now.

4921
04:25:50,080 --> 04:25:51,520
>> I was going to say like there's a lot of

4922
04:25:51,520 --> 04:25:52,720
different

4923
04:25:52,720 --> 04:25:55,520
>> more comfortable

4924
04:25:55,520 --> 04:25:57,840
uh shoes now that meet the requirements.

4925
04:25:57,840 --> 04:26:03,680
So, you would hope that, you know, they'd be able to like

4926
04:26:03,680 --> 04:26:04,960
make some changes with that.

4927
04:26:04,960 --> 04:26:06,399
>> Yeah, sneakers out there.

4928
04:26:06,399 --> 04:26:09,680
>> Yeah, they do have sneakers.

4929
04:26:09,680 --> 04:26:16,389
>> I bought a pair for myself and I wear

4930
04:26:16,399 --> 04:26:17,840
step out some sneakers and see if they

4931
04:26:17,840 --> 04:26:19,439
stay out.

4932
04:26:19,439 --> 04:26:20,479
>> No, because it's one of those things

4933
04:26:20,479 --> 04:26:23,920
that goes wrong, right?

4934
04:26:23,920 --> 04:26:25,920
>> All right. We don't we don't want anyone

4935
04:26:25,920 --> 04:26:29,520
to get hurt. Absolutely. We'll work at

4936
04:26:29,520 --> 04:26:32,319
some reminder and put a couple some

4937
04:26:32,319 --> 04:26:36,880
little bulletins and reminders to

4938
04:26:36,880 --> 04:26:39,040
it. Overall, it's a safety concern and

4939
04:26:39,040 --> 04:26:40,960
it's for their benefit.

4940
04:26:40,960 --> 04:26:42,080
>> Oh, absolutely.

4941
04:26:42,080 --> 04:26:43,840
>> And we just need to make sure that we

4942
04:26:43,840 --> 04:26:46,880
enforce it.

4943
04:26:46,880 --> 04:26:49,760
>> Any u question regarding waste

4944
04:26:49,760 --> 04:26:50,960
collection?

4945
04:26:50,960 --> 04:26:54,880
>> Okay, we're going to move to uh

4946
04:26:54,880 --> 04:26:57,680
waste disposal.

4947
04:26:57,680 --> 04:27:02,319
We just sold by 850%

4948
04:27:02,319 --> 04:27:05,760
approximately 1.8 million to 1.9

4949
04:27:05,760 --> 04:27:11,990
million.

4950
04:27:12,000 --> 04:27:13,760
» All of that is actually right in the

4951
04:27:13,760 --> 04:27:16,960
tipping fee. Um we do have a contract

4952
04:27:16,960 --> 04:27:19,680
with county waste. So um you know they

4953
04:27:19,680 --> 04:27:23,840
go up by CTI on an annual basis.

4954
04:27:23,840 --> 04:27:25,439
fuel prices have been down, but there

4955
04:27:25,439 --> 04:27:28,080
are escalators in there with regards to

4956
04:27:28,080 --> 04:27:33,439
um you know fuel prices charges. Um but

4957
04:27:33,439 --> 04:27:35,520
you know again

4958
04:27:35,520 --> 04:27:36,640
>> it does

4959
04:27:36,640 --> 04:27:39,680
>> based on some CPI numbers we all have a

4960
04:27:39,680 --> 04:27:44,399
tip as well every year know the pies

4961
04:27:44,399 --> 04:27:47,520
we're going to pay for slage disposal

4962
04:27:47,520 --> 04:27:53,510
recycles um

4963
04:27:53,520 --> 04:27:59,830
any questions on this

4964
04:27:59,840 --> 04:28:02,319
» see now move waste recycling right on

4965
04:28:02,319 --> 04:28:05,439
the bottom of page 58 to 59.

4966
04:28:05,439 --> 04:28:09,840
>> Waste recycling increased by 15.4.4

4967
04:28:09,840 --> 04:28:12,319
million to 1.6 million approximately

4968
04:28:12,319 --> 04:28:16,149
that's

4969
04:28:16,159 --> 04:28:17,040
» you just want to give us

4970
04:28:17,040 --> 04:28:19,279
>> and again what we did is you know we

4971
04:28:19,279 --> 04:28:20,960
split the difference on seasonals

4972
04:28:20,960 --> 04:28:22,960
between recycling and waste because it's

4973
04:28:22,960 --> 04:28:26,159
what we do with the two 15 and 15. So we

4974
04:28:26,159 --> 04:28:27,520
do it with the labor loaders and we did

4975
04:28:27,520 --> 04:28:30,239
it with the seasonals.

4976
04:28:30,239 --> 04:28:33,439
So they sort of mirror each other with

4977
04:28:33,439 --> 04:28:35,359
recycling

4978
04:28:35,359 --> 04:28:38,000
with the uh the staffing

4979
04:28:38,000 --> 04:28:39,760
and there are some vacancies in there

4980
04:28:39,760 --> 04:28:42,880
and again we do maintain a couple

4981
04:28:42,880 --> 04:28:44,880
vacancies because of the training

4982
04:28:44,880 --> 04:28:48,000
program that we offer. So we have had

4983
04:28:48,000 --> 04:28:51,040
ways we had two or three right at least

4984
04:28:51,040 --> 04:28:57,510
two or three

4985
04:28:57,520 --> 04:29:02,149
in the waste of

4986
04:29:02,159 --> 04:29:06,870
» question on waste recycling.

4987
04:29:06,880 --> 04:29:09,840
» Is there a timeline for that?

4988
04:29:09,840 --> 04:29:13,600
>> Once they get their permit it starts to

4989
04:29:13,600 --> 04:29:16,880
clock for 9 months. Okay.

4990
04:29:16,880 --> 04:29:18,640
If they, you know, if they take their

4991
04:29:18,640 --> 04:29:21,199
road test and they pass, they just

4992
04:29:21,199 --> 04:29:23,760
resign again. If you see that they're

4993
04:29:23,760 --> 04:29:26,800
actively trying, yes, because what we

4994
04:29:26,800 --> 04:29:29,279
do, there's just that seasonal, they get

4995
04:29:29,279 --> 04:29:33,199
their permit after so many um 160 hours

4996
04:29:33,199 --> 04:29:35,600
of drive time a day. We give it to them

4997
04:29:35,600 --> 04:29:37,760
and then we give them a little point for

4998
04:29:37,760 --> 04:29:39,680
temporary as an incentive. We see that

4999
04:29:39,680 --> 04:29:42,080
they're making progress. But what we

5000
04:29:42,080 --> 04:29:43,279
don't want to do is have somebody just

5001
04:29:43,279 --> 04:29:45,520
get to temporary stay there. We watch

5002
04:29:45,520 --> 04:29:49,840
them build that get their license and

5003
04:29:49,840 --> 04:29:55,750
we may recommend there.

5004
04:29:55,760 --> 04:29:57,760
So there's instances of seasonal to

5005
04:29:57,760 --> 04:30:00,479
labor to

5006
04:30:00,479 --> 04:30:02,479
>> seasonal.

5007
04:30:02,479 --> 04:30:05,199
Yeah. And then since when they get their

5008
04:30:05,199 --> 04:30:08,239
permit, we move them into a

5009
04:30:08,239 --> 04:30:10,159
position. And then once they get their

5010
04:30:10,159 --> 04:30:12,880
license, then we take the test. And we

5011
04:30:12,880 --> 04:30:15,279
have one of the trainers and workers,

5012
04:30:15,279 --> 04:30:16,800
you know, all morning before the road

5013
04:30:16,800 --> 04:30:19,040
test to try to ensure that he was

5014
04:30:19,040 --> 04:30:21,520
pre-trip and everything else. And if he

5015
04:30:21,520 --> 04:30:24,080
passes, um, you know, he's still

5016
04:30:24,080 --> 04:30:26,239
valuable because he still need people to

5017
04:30:26,239 --> 04:30:28,479
come to work. Have a good record, good

5018
04:30:28,479 --> 04:30:30,960
work ethic, too.

5019
04:30:30,960 --> 04:30:33,279
Any

5020
04:30:33,279 --> 04:30:35,600
other questions?

5021
04:30:35,600 --> 04:30:39,750
>> Well, the document that you provided

5022
04:30:39,760 --> 04:30:44,720
analysis and so is this essentially

5023
04:30:44,720 --> 04:30:46,319
revenue.

5024
04:30:46,319 --> 04:30:51,830
>> Yeah, that

5025
04:30:51,840 --> 04:30:57,279
that's all the revenue from year 25.

5026
04:30:57,279 --> 04:31:01,520
Um you see the revenue access

5027
04:31:01,520 --> 04:31:05,760
uh no legislation so I put there so it's

5028
04:31:05,760 --> 04:31:07,920
not included

5029
04:31:07,920 --> 04:31:11,349
expect

5030
04:31:11,359 --> 04:31:18,469
so that numbers

5031
04:31:18,479 --> 04:31:23,830
that

5032
04:31:23,840 --> 04:31:27,030
there

5033
04:31:27,040 --> 04:31:34,710
around 97,000 shortfall

5034
04:31:34,720 --> 04:31:38,469
for 256

5035
04:31:38,479 --> 04:31:41,120
at the bottom

5036
04:31:41,120 --> 04:31:44,080
as commissioners

5037
04:31:44,080 --> 04:31:46,479
benefits

5038
04:31:46,479 --> 04:31:51,590
26

5039
04:31:51,600 --> 04:31:55,750
water

5040
04:31:55,760 --> 04:31:57,359
If you look at the revenue, that's the

5041
04:31:57,359 --> 04:31:59,840
increase of

5042
04:31:59,840 --> 04:32:06,070
110

5043
04:32:06,080 --> 04:32:09,269
properties.

5044
04:32:09,279 --> 04:32:11,359
And what

5045
04:32:11,359 --> 04:32:15,349
the

5046
04:32:15,359 --> 04:32:18,950
» new trash

5047
04:32:18,960 --> 04:32:24,950
that's the new budget amount

5048
04:32:24,960 --> 04:32:28,880
waste cost. So this debt service

5049
04:32:28,880 --> 04:32:46,229
benefits workers compility

5050
04:32:46,239 --> 04:32:49,520
for fuel buildings and repairs and

5051
04:32:49,520 --> 04:32:59,670
labor.

5052
04:32:59,680 --> 04:33:05,269
So, so the mechanical

5053
04:33:05,279 --> 04:33:09,029
» these are only

5054
04:33:09,039 --> 04:33:16,789
» not just back up only waste.

5055
04:33:16,799 --> 04:33:18,639
» We put usually around 10 trucks out a

5056
04:33:18,639 --> 04:33:24,551
day.

5057
04:33:24,561 --> 04:33:27,199
We don't have 14 trucks out a day in um

5058
04:33:27,199 --> 04:33:28,959
you know in other parts of LGS the

5059
04:33:28,959 --> 04:33:30,000
street department unless there's a

5060
04:33:30,000 --> 04:33:32,959
snowstorm. So the garbage trucks are are

5061
04:33:32,959 --> 04:33:36,240
used heavily regularly every day. So

5062
04:33:36,240 --> 04:33:38,959
they get a lot of wear and tear

5063
04:33:38,959 --> 04:33:44,949
maintenance.

5064
04:33:44,959 --> 04:33:48,160
» 2026 amount that you're showing includes

5065
04:33:48,160 --> 04:33:54,470
the proposed increase. So that's that

5066
04:33:54,480 --> 04:33:56,639
number.

5067
04:33:56,639 --> 04:34:11,029
>> Thank you.

5068
04:34:11,039 --> 04:34:13,600
» Any questions?

5069
04:34:13,600 --> 04:34:16,320
>> Okay. You see now

5070
04:34:16,320 --> 04:34:30,150
water pow

5071
04:34:30,160 --> 04:34:32,400
have revenue

5072
04:34:32,400 --> 04:34:41,830
expenditure

5073
04:34:41,840 --> 04:34:47,039
» the revenue alliance I know you first

5074
04:34:47,039 --> 04:34:49,520
I briefly mentioned it in the uh

5075
04:34:49,520 --> 04:34:52,000
overview um but I can just repeat um

5076
04:34:52,000 --> 04:34:54,320
eventually with the fee rate increases

5077
04:34:54,320 --> 04:34:56,719
uh who went through the budget here um

5078
04:34:56,719 --> 04:34:58,320
it's really going to affect the

5079
04:34:58,320 --> 04:35:00,320
commercial units within the city and

5080
04:35:00,320 --> 04:35:03,199
then outside city so the residents are

5081
04:35:03,199 --> 04:35:06,639
not being affected by any rate increases

5082
04:35:06,639 --> 04:35:08,240
uh

5083
04:35:08,240 --> 04:35:11,359
and we did increase the appropriate fund

5084
04:35:11,359 --> 04:35:13,039
balance

5085
04:35:13,039 --> 04:35:16,561
um which reflects 400,000 is u reflects

5086
04:35:16,561 --> 04:35:18,719
that increase which we're moving into

5087
04:35:18,719 --> 04:35:21,600
the general fund budget to help mate

5088
04:35:21,600 --> 04:35:23,520
that gap

5089
04:35:23,520 --> 04:35:25,600
>> yeah revenues and expenditures within

5090
04:35:25,600 --> 04:35:28,400
the general fund other than that

5091
04:35:28,400 --> 04:35:34,390
basically

5092
04:35:34,400 --> 04:35:40,310
something

5093
04:35:40,320 --> 04:35:44,000
» and then just again it's only 5.39%

5094
04:35:44,000 --> 04:35:53,429
increase. So for 25 it's about

5095
04:35:53,439 --> 04:35:57,199
» that's overall

5096
04:35:57,199 --> 04:35:59,520
distribution administration

5097
04:35:59,520 --> 04:36:05,189
>> reservoir everything

5098
04:36:05,199 --> 04:36:08,869
» question

5099
04:36:08,879 --> 04:36:12,959
on the taxes that came through um in

5100
04:36:12,959 --> 04:36:15,199
But it is the property that we have at

5101
04:36:15,199 --> 04:36:18,719
the wfield moist road the assessed value

5102
04:36:18,719 --> 04:36:22,240
has been reduced. So um

5103
04:36:22,240 --> 04:36:25,199
the assumption is that those taxes will

5104
04:36:25,199 --> 04:36:27,760
drop

5105
04:36:27,760 --> 04:36:30,561
550,000 or maybe less but on the safe

5106
04:36:30,561 --> 04:36:33,359
side we probably do 550,000 because the

5107
04:36:33,359 --> 04:36:39,269
assessment reduction.

5108
04:36:39,279 --> 04:36:41,039
Any question?

5109
04:36:41,039 --> 04:36:44,959
>> See now we'll move into a solar fund.

5110
04:36:44,959 --> 04:36:49,590
Commissioner just give us

5111
04:36:49,600 --> 04:36:58,070
quick snapshot.

5112
04:36:58,080 --> 04:37:00,160
There's no fee increases that are

5113
04:37:00,160 --> 04:37:01,680
biased.

5114
04:37:01,680 --> 04:37:03,840
We did increase the appropriate tax

5115
04:37:03,840 --> 04:37:07,279
return to 100,000. Um and we did

5116
04:37:07,279 --> 04:37:10,160
increase the general fund transfer by

5117
04:37:10,160 --> 04:37:13,520
another 100,000. So 2.2 million 2.3

5118
04:37:13,520 --> 04:37:24,390
million said where's that cap?

5119
04:37:24,400 --> 04:37:28,240
» Any question regarding the fun?

5120
04:37:28,240 --> 04:37:29,760
>> Go ahead.

5121
04:37:29,760 --> 04:37:31,680
>> So

5122
04:37:31,680 --> 04:37:35,600
you said that um your

5123
04:37:35,600 --> 04:37:37,359
down split between the store

5124
04:37:37,359 --> 04:37:38,240
>> water and store

5125
04:37:38,240 --> 04:37:40,160
>> and that's it.

5126
04:37:40,160 --> 04:37:43,119
Um is there a salary increase for you on

5127
04:37:43,119 --> 04:37:43,920
that?

5128
04:37:43,920 --> 04:37:46,879
>> I would assume 3% or

5129
04:37:46,879 --> 04:37:49,680
it needs to be a third from general

5130
04:37:49,680 --> 04:37:55,590
water

5131
04:37:55,600 --> 04:37:56,879
» should be a 3% increase.

5132
04:37:56,879 --> 04:37:59,760
>> So this so this so what we saw in 2025

5133
04:37:59,760 --> 04:38:01,119
was a third.

5134
04:38:01,119 --> 04:38:04,320
>> Okay. Thank you.

5135
04:38:04,320 --> 04:38:06,879
Any other questions?

5136
04:38:06,879 --> 04:38:11,199
Seeing none, I think we forward

5137
04:38:11,199 --> 04:38:22,070
everything.

5138
04:38:22,080 --> 04:38:26,000
the where would I find the um MEO

5139
04:38:26,000 --> 04:38:29,520
position and SNAP and the two in street

5140
04:38:29,520 --> 04:38:33,279
maintenance that were um

5141
04:38:33,279 --> 04:38:34,320
taken out from

5142
04:38:34,320 --> 04:38:36,959
>> and they're in the

5143
04:38:36,959 --> 04:38:40,480
former art

5144
04:38:40,480 --> 04:38:45,590
street ones were formerally artific

5145
04:38:45,600 --> 04:38:48,879
So the two of these were okay.

5146
04:38:48,879 --> 04:38:51,600
And the one meal and snap, it's still

5147
04:38:51,600 --> 04:38:54,240
there, right? It's just not filled.

5148
04:38:54,240 --> 04:38:57,359
>> Well, it's it's just

5149
04:38:57,359 --> 04:38:59,199
okay.

5150
04:38:59,199 --> 04:39:01,039
That was my request.

5151
04:39:01,039 --> 04:39:05,840
>> Okay. We'll move into capital projects.

5152
04:39:05,840 --> 04:39:08,240
Uh well person

5153
04:39:08,240 --> 04:39:20,230
collection

5154
04:39:20,240 --> 04:39:21,039
» you said capital.

5155
04:39:21,039 --> 04:39:24,639
>> I'm not taking out anything

5156
04:39:24,639 --> 04:39:33,330
capital

5157
04:39:33,340 --> 04:39:35,039
[Music]

5158
04:39:35,039 --> 04:39:39,510
or

5159
04:39:39,520 --> 04:39:40,638
What are we doing?

5160
04:39:40,638 --> 04:39:44,080
>> Waste collection. Collection waste

5161
04:39:44,080 --> 04:39:47,270
collection.

5162
04:39:47,280 --> 04:39:51,120
» For our supervisors and two new garbage

5163
04:39:51,120 --> 04:39:52,638
truck

5164
04:39:52,638 --> 04:39:56,240
been trying to keep up the per year.

5165
04:39:56,240 --> 04:39:56,718
>> Yeah.

5166
04:39:56,718 --> 04:39:59,360
>> In place. Uh we've been buying those off

5167
04:39:59,360 --> 04:40:00,878
the

5168
04:40:00,878 --> 04:40:11,830
police

5169
04:40:11,840 --> 04:40:17,750
again.

5170
04:40:17,760 --> 04:40:20,320
» Any questions?

5171
04:40:20,320 --> 04:40:27,750
See now we'll move to street mechanical.

5172
04:40:27,760 --> 04:40:29,600
being available equipment. It's going to

5173
04:40:29,600 --> 04:40:32,400
be for two regular cat pickups with plow

5174
04:40:32,400 --> 04:40:33,840
and replace the two oldest ones in the

5175
04:40:33,840 --> 04:40:36,080
fleet that are said everything we're

5176
04:40:36,080 --> 04:40:38,560
replacing is 10 plus years old. Um

5177
04:40:38,560 --> 04:40:40,718
there's two pickup trucks. A hot box

5178
04:40:40,718 --> 04:40:42,480
truck is a 10 yard single kind of truck

5179
04:40:42,480 --> 04:40:45,920
that keeps our laptop hot so we can you

5180
04:40:45,920 --> 04:40:49,440
know when we start early

5181
04:40:49,440 --> 04:40:52,400
eats it up we use it all the time makes

5182
04:40:52,400 --> 04:40:56,958
more pl so we can do ples you know

5183
04:40:56,958 --> 04:40:59,840
and a forklift our forklift

5184
04:40:59,840 --> 04:41:03,270
I think

5185
04:41:03,280 --> 04:41:08,708
for

5186
04:41:08,718 --> 04:41:09,760
the neuros

5187
04:41:09,760 --> 04:41:12,000
load trucks with plows, different

5188
04:41:12,000 --> 04:41:15,280
things. It's just

5189
04:41:15,280 --> 04:41:17,040
exceeded it.

5190
04:41:17,040 --> 04:41:23,270
>> The note you have on here is from 1988.

5191
04:41:23,280 --> 04:41:25,600
» I8

5192
04:41:25,600 --> 04:41:26,718
say 198.

5193
04:41:26,718 --> 04:41:27,200
>> Yeah.

5194
04:41:27,200 --> 04:41:28,320
>> Wow.

5195
04:41:28,320 --> 04:41:30,160
>> We've got our

5196
04:41:30,160 --> 04:41:32,080
>> Yeah.

5197
04:41:32,080 --> 04:41:35,440
>> Okay. Any question on that?

5198
04:41:35,440 --> 04:41:38,080
>> It's like half

5199
04:41:38,080 --> 04:41:44,070
water.

5200
04:41:44,080 --> 04:41:46,638
I was going to ask for a utility

5201
04:41:46,638 --> 04:41:49,200
van electrician. We bought one I think

5202
04:41:49,200 --> 04:41:52,160
four years ago

5203
04:41:52,160 --> 04:41:56,638
using one of the old um fire

5204
04:41:56,638 --> 04:41:58,160
off. We've been losing for a couple

5205
04:41:58,160 --> 04:42:00,000
years. We tried to get the last out of

5206
04:42:00,000 --> 04:42:02,240
it and we are looking for a new utility

5207
04:42:02,240 --> 04:42:04,080
for the electric and he travels all

5208
04:42:04,080 --> 04:42:06,400
over. He's not just to the water.

5209
04:42:06,400 --> 04:42:07,920
police department, fire department, all

5210
04:42:07,920 --> 04:42:10,320
our buildings. He works throughout the

5211
04:42:10,320 --> 04:42:15,040
city for all departments. Um

5212
04:42:15,040 --> 04:42:16,798
water distribution repairs. That's

5213
04:42:16,798 --> 04:42:19,440
typically $100,000 to do some main work

5214
04:42:19,440 --> 04:42:21,680
uh or some we've been trying to do now

5215
04:42:21,680 --> 04:42:25,840
is we call um insert tunnels. Um a lot

5216
04:42:25,840 --> 04:42:27,680
of the valves in the city have to re

5217
04:42:27,680 --> 04:42:29,120
replace so we have a company that can

5218
04:42:29,120 --> 04:42:31,440
come in uh they can do it live under

5219
04:42:31,440 --> 04:42:33,040
pressure. So we don't have to shut the

5220
04:42:33,040 --> 04:42:35,040
maintenance down. when we shut them in

5221
04:42:35,040 --> 04:42:36,560
down, they always jeopardize drinking

5222
04:42:36,560 --> 04:42:38,320
another. So, they do it under pressure

5223
04:42:38,320 --> 04:42:40,320
for us. So, it's just for general work

5224
04:42:40,320 --> 04:42:42,718
in the in the uh in the system. The

5225
04:42:42,718 --> 04:42:46,320
hydro excavator will replace 2016 unit.

5226
04:42:46,320 --> 04:42:48,320
It's $595,000.

5227
04:42:48,320 --> 04:42:50,958
They um what that is, it's a large

5228
04:42:50,958 --> 04:42:53,040
vacuum truck which will pull the earth

5229
04:42:53,040 --> 04:42:55,680
out of the ground by vacuum. Because of

5230
04:42:55,680 --> 04:42:58,560
the number of utilities in the ground

5231
04:42:58,560 --> 04:43:00,400
now, national grid and rise and

5232
04:43:00,400 --> 04:43:01,760
everything else, it's very difficult to

5233
04:43:01,760 --> 04:43:04,878
dig the back. So, we make the and we

5234
04:43:04,878 --> 04:43:07,440
computers and we help damage gas lines

5235
04:43:07,440 --> 04:43:10,400
and stuff. So, we are going to looking

5236
04:43:10,400 --> 04:43:13,200
to replace the 2016

5237
04:43:13,200 --> 04:43:16,320
uh valve maintenance trailer. Um what

5238
04:43:16,320 --> 04:43:18,400
that does is as we go out and open some

5239
04:43:18,400 --> 04:43:20,480
open our valves, exercise our valves,

5240
04:43:20,480 --> 04:43:23,280
some of our valves take 400 turns. It

5241
04:43:23,280 --> 04:43:24,878
takes a couple guys a long time to do

5242
04:43:24,878 --> 04:43:26,400
400 turns on some of these valves. So,

5243
04:43:26,400 --> 04:43:29,200
these are electric valve box on a

5244
04:43:29,200 --> 04:43:31,360
trailer. You hook it up and it does it

5245
04:43:31,360 --> 04:43:34,000
automatically. It'll if it hits

5246
04:43:34,000 --> 04:43:35,760
resistance or torque so it doesn't break

5247
04:43:35,760 --> 04:43:38,400
it, you back it up and do it again. So,

5248
04:43:38,400 --> 04:43:41,280
um, you know, we found that to be

5249
04:43:41,280 --> 04:43:43,680
important. We had to break down one of

5250
04:43:43,680 --> 04:43:45,520
the bigger mains and we had to shut down

5251
04:43:45,520 --> 04:43:46,798
36.

5252
04:43:46,798 --> 04:43:48,878
>> It takes about an hour and a half just

5253
04:43:48,878 --> 04:43:53,990
to get the valve closed. So,

5254
04:43:54,000 --> 04:43:57,520
and then um wellfield improvements um

5255
04:43:57,520 --> 04:43:59,520
redevelopment. We always redevelop wells

5256
04:43:59,520 --> 04:44:01,760
based on their hours and um what they

5257
04:44:01,760 --> 04:44:03,760
started to to reduce the volume come

5258
04:44:03,760 --> 04:44:05,520
through the wells and then we'll start

5259
04:44:05,520 --> 04:44:09,040
the phase two design of $950,000.

5260
04:44:09,040 --> 04:44:11,360
So we do have some grant money out there

5261
04:44:11,360 --> 04:44:14,878
and again I think you all know that I

5262
04:44:14,878 --> 04:44:17,680
consult for lots of grant money received

5263
04:44:17,680 --> 04:44:20,878
over $50 million in the last five years.

5264
04:44:20,878 --> 04:44:25,120
So we always um chase grant money first

5265
04:44:25,120 --> 04:44:27,760
but when these projects are we're doing

5266
04:44:27,760 --> 04:44:31,200
these projects we get the design ready

5267
04:44:31,200 --> 04:44:35,280
on the do uh we score better because

5268
04:44:35,280 --> 04:44:37,280
they know the projects that we are

5269
04:44:37,280 --> 04:44:39,520
really looking at not we're looking for

5270
04:44:39,520 --> 04:44:41,040
the money we get the money we'll do the

5271
04:44:41,040 --> 04:44:43,360
project these are projects that are

5272
04:44:43,360 --> 04:44:45,280
going to you know add resiliency to the

5273
04:44:45,280 --> 04:44:47,600
city staff back up a lot and everything

5274
04:44:47,600 --> 04:44:49,280
else

5275
04:44:49,280 --> 04:44:51,280
we definitely very successful getting

5276
04:44:51,280 --> 04:44:54,560
you know a lot

5277
04:44:54,560 --> 04:44:56,798
>> any question on

5278
04:44:56,798 --> 04:45:00,878
capital project see

5279
04:45:00,878 --> 04:45:06,390
sewer. Yeah. Project sewer

5280
04:45:06,400 --> 04:45:10,958
dump truck. Uh it's replace

5281
04:45:10,958 --> 04:45:12,560
there. But one of the dump trucks in the

5282
04:45:12,560 --> 04:45:15,760
sewer division 300,000

5283
04:45:15,760 --> 04:45:20,480
um compressor truck that we use

5284
04:45:20,480 --> 04:45:23,440
for the jackhammers, air hammers. It's

5285
04:45:23,440 --> 04:45:25,120
built into the truck. So when we're out

5286
04:45:25,120 --> 04:45:26,798
when we firework, the air hammer's right

5287
04:45:26,798 --> 04:45:29,360
there with us. So those are the two that

5288
04:45:29,360 --> 04:45:31,280
would be in the what we call sanitary

5289
04:45:31,280 --> 04:45:36,400
sewer. Um and then we have 1.25 million

5290
04:45:36,400 --> 04:45:39,360
for water treatment plant equipment

5291
04:45:39,360 --> 04:45:43,280
that would be like

5292
04:45:43,280 --> 04:45:47,840
pumps uh grid system

5293
04:45:47,840 --> 04:45:50,798
that runs 24 hours a day

5294
04:45:50,798 --> 04:45:53,040
if it turns off.

5295
04:45:53,040 --> 04:45:55,840
So it's just one of those little

5296
04:45:55,840 --> 04:45:58,240
infrastructure pieces that

5297
04:45:58,240 --> 04:45:59,680
You're always you're always putting

5298
04:45:59,680 --> 04:46:04,230
hearts into

5299
04:46:04,240 --> 04:46:06,798
and then the Southary pump station $1.1

5300
04:46:06,798 --> 04:46:09,200
million

5301
04:46:09,200 --> 04:46:12,878
and this is pump station off boulevard.

5302
04:46:12,878 --> 04:46:16,560
It's a very old can station. Um we're

5303
04:46:16,560 --> 04:46:18,240
starting to see development downtown

5304
04:46:18,240 --> 04:46:20,480
area. Um

5305
04:46:20,480 --> 04:46:22,958
not size to take some of the flow. Um

5306
04:46:22,958 --> 04:46:26,400
it's old. All it is is a a can station.

5307
04:46:26,400 --> 04:46:27,920
It's just got a lid on it. You have to

5308
04:46:27,920 --> 04:46:29,920
crawl, you know, climb down the ladder.

5309
04:46:29,920 --> 04:46:31,920
There's two pumps down the bottom of

5310
04:46:31,920 --> 04:46:35,920
that pit. Very hard to work on. Um

5311
04:46:35,920 --> 04:46:38,480
I've been here since 7 a.m. It's the

5312
04:46:38,480 --> 04:46:39,200
same pump station.

5313
04:46:39,200 --> 04:46:39,840
>> Oh my goodness.

5314
04:46:39,840 --> 04:46:41,920
>> And the only place in there were the

5315
04:46:41,920 --> 04:46:44,480
incoming pumps. As they walked, it's

5316
04:46:44,480 --> 04:46:47,280
time to, you know, start to design work

5317
04:46:47,280 --> 04:46:50,878
>> and um get a consultant on again. We

5318
04:46:50,878 --> 04:46:52,638
will look for grant money. um there's

5319
04:46:52,638 --> 04:46:57,830
anything available.

5320
04:46:57,840 --> 04:47:03,750
» Any questions on capital?

5321
04:47:03,760 --> 04:47:07,040
» See none. Thank you so much.

5322
04:47:07,040 --> 04:47:10,000
>> Sorry.

5323
04:47:10,000 --> 04:47:11,600
>> I mean, can I just say I think it was

5324
04:47:11,600 --> 04:47:14,798
significant reduction from terms of your

5325
04:47:14,798 --> 04:47:29,350
capital equipment.

5326
04:47:29,360 --> 04:47:32,470
started

5327
04:47:32,480 --> 04:47:38,310
we have

5328
04:47:38,320 --> 04:47:41,830
» thank you so much

5329
04:47:41,840 --> 04:47:42,958
any other any other business in support

5330
04:47:42,958 --> 04:47:44,958
of finance

5331
04:47:44,958 --> 04:47:47,920
so uh before we uh join uh before we

5332
04:47:47,920 --> 04:47:51,040
recess our next meeting

5333
04:47:51,040 --> 04:47:53,680
next Wednesday, October the 15th at 5:30

5334
04:47:53,680 --> 04:47:55,360
p.m. We will go through the remaining of

5335
04:47:55,360 --> 04:47:58,000
the budget

5336
04:47:58,000 --> 04:48:00,798
recess finance committee until the

5337
04:48:00,798 --> 04:48:01,200
second.

5338
04:48:01,200 --> 04:48:04,080
>> All in favor? I thank you.

5339
04:48:04,080 --> 04:48:12,070
>> Thank you. Great job.

5340
04:48:12,080 --> 04:48:13,920
» It's not midnight,

5341
04:48:13,920 --> 04:48:21,430
>> Sam. It's not one thing.

5342
04:48:21,440 --> 04:48:26,550
I'm sorry but it feels like it

5343
04:48:26,560 --> 04:48:31,110
though

5344
04:48:31,120 --> 04:48:38,868
my my dogs don't respect

5345
04:48:38,878 --> 04:48:41,600
they have needs.