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a topic around discrimination, violence,

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process um that is required if we were

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to exceed the tax cap and he refer us to

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for what exactly we as council if we

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happen on Wednesday when he'll be

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covering the meeting but I can tell you

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the city council would need to pass a

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tax levy limit. We have a copy of that

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in the packet of what that would look

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pass the budget by supermajority. So

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five are required for vote in order to

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receiving the tax then it's just for

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this something that we had?

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» Regarding this uh the process

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um we can go through it in more detail.

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of what the local law would look like.

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days just like any local law. Um so

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there's there's a process to it. Um and

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he's um he would he asked that he uh

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discuss it with you. Um but from a high

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level supermajority the council passes

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this local law. it goes through a local

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law process. Council would also need to

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again by super majority pass the budget

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increase. Um it said so it said that the

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mayor can um a mayoral message of

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necessity to avoid the 7-day waiting

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local law. So the mayor can

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necessity

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7-day waiting period.

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assistant corporation council O'Brien

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asked that he be able to go over this

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process with you. So I'm happy to with

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you, but he has all of the details

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because he's the one who's done all the

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research. He's fill out the work in the

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office and he's been honest.

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>> You're saying Wednesday. We're meeting

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tomorrow. Is he not available?

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>> But I mean if you have more questions

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>> Are there any question regarding the tax

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on the requirement? Okay. The next

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this is the commission.

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go over the tax cap, what would that

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have cost us in terms of dollar amounts

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against his budget tonight? You said

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that to me in the email.

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never received that email.

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We have to buy approximately five to6

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» We have to reduce our we have to

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they override tax either you override

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» Okay. No, I just want to leave that to

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the table. So know where we stand in

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terms of if we work through it. We're

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not going to override the tax gap. We

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need $6 million on the high end.

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All right. So we'll go into questions to

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make sure that we address all the

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first package.

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D one of the question I asked when we

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but I told you we can go tomorrow.

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What is the the insurance estimates?

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>> Um so I can find it tonight

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from

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Brown. Uh we as of September 2025

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goes through the nitty-gritty of what

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was initially anticipated.

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and as we discussed earlier my general

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high level review

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approximately $19 million for MVP um

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um and other proactive steps so we can

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spend another $17 million on the budget.

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» Well, sorry. Uh, can you just recap that

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what you were explaining?

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>> Yeah, of course. So, this is from our

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consultant that I work with um self

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short plan. Um we meet with her

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approximately a record to go over um the

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extensions uh what's projected. Um as

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expected of the 26

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changes increases um for example

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loss risk of mitigation factor uh trends

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and other miscellaneous

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trends as well that are added to that

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open um go into more um more detail

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premium rates

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uh premiered scenarios.

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Um but if there's any questions um

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regarding this packet, please let me

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know.

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Thank you for providing this. Um

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are there any question regarding this? I have to go through it because I can't just if I have question I email

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it to you. But if any members have any

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can be addressed now or you can follow

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up with an email to uh direct

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and see

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we did address the local law and in the

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state package there is a draft

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resolution

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that we pass tonight. We have the

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resolution here. We just need to write

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the number.

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They're looking at me.

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So the next um

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» can I ask one question? Can

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>> you just tell me what stop losses? I

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probably should know. What is stop loss

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premium?

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>> High cost claimment. We picked a number

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that limits our loss. So when they have

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a catastrophic event or medical bills

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that go

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hundreds of thousands of dollars, that

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insurance policy picks it up, limits our

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losses.

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The problem is we have some employees

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who are on maintenance drugs and so the

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stop loss policy will effectively stock

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up for one year

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going into the second year in future

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then we become liable for that whole

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amount. That's one of the factors that's

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driving up our cost for healthcare.

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on the the next page. This one here at

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the back have we can go through this in

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terms of here.

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If there's anything that um

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Mr. Williams you need to um address, let

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us know. If there question that answer,

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let us know and we can make notes and

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get answers for you.

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Go ahead, please.

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>> There was one thing I did ask.

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Um, so my specific question what was fun

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down

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before, but you give a little bit more

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detail on that. Um I don't believe from

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the research that I've done um document

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the policy that the city has council has

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to work with the commissioner finance

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other departments to

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>> city council's the policy making set the

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policy for

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balance or other

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>> but generally minister council like

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adopt them would have been one place

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long for this council came about. So I

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just that's why I was asking to get

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through policy if we need to develop

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them then that's certainly something you

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could do but generally municipalities

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adopt them but I was just asking what

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Alex was

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and um you know accent that we can

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certainly look at what the comproller

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would recommend in terms of our fund

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balance because I think frankly we may

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have to go in more into our fund balance

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than we thought we would. So what does

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you know what does the fund balance look

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like? We should take a look at that and

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>> reasonable is approximately between 15

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and 1% of the operating

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>> 15 20%.

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Um if you look at our numbers on

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assigned funds that's way

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>> well um again you know I'll look at what

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the recommend we don't have our own but

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the recommendations um

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come out of the controller's office and

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so we can take a look at that

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since we're on that page that you as

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question is follow question on the very

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same

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page

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one this not it's on the next item Gley

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54

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M port you can complete the question so

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that we can go on to the next

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>> where you can

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>> you talk about a second attachment um

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regarding outside council

385
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>> and then the breakdown of the smart city

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fund and your transport as requested we

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didn't get to that as

388
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>> we did touch on a tax sketch so do you

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want to

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>> I mean he's provided the answer there in

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front of what expenditures. So um just

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further clarify this is what we spend

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year to date and there are no

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outstanding bills except the 8,000

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something that we have to pay to outside

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council.

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Yeah, I've

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>> So,

399
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yes, for the year to date as a 1020,

400
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there's 75,000 actual

401
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back year,000.

402
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:05,839
>> I couldn't hear commissioner, could you

403
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:08,240
repeat that?

404
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,920
>> The question was the year too big for

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outside council. So, um Mr. to Google

406
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months about $75,685

407
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,119
and about um that's expenditure to date

408
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:23,280
and then about um 3,800 in requisitions

409
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,160
meaning outstanding um bills that have

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not been paid or been work within the

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law department that has not been sent

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down to the finance to be paid.

413
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Um,

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does that account for

415
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:46,630
>> record?

416
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,480
» Yeah. So, I would I would defer to the

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numbers that finance has

418
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a billion and some of it's ongoing. That

419
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means you don't build it until they're

420
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finished doing all the work. We don't

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build

422
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>> they don't build us until doing some

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work. Go ahead.

424
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>> I outside council

425
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with the

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firefight engineer

427
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on

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that process.

429
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>> And we have a ballpark on this. And will

430
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that be complete by the end of this

431
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,829
year?

432
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:28,800
» I would hope so. I don't think so.

433
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,960
>> Oh, okay.

434
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So, do we have where we are right now? I

435
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mean I know it's available hours etc. Do

436
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you have any ballpark of where we are

437
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right now

438
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,240
>> in terms of

439
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>> yeah whether

440
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or whenever it's finished

441
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:50,470
>> I don't have those numbers

442
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,400
and you have to go back in executive

443
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,920
session

444
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,750
the details of the contract.

445
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520
» Thank you.

446
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,680
also um very important.

447
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,520
>> Yeah. Continue with your question.

448
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,599
>> The other one was a breakdown of smart

449
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cities and he did show us what was aid

450
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um with their categories uh in time to

451
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have Mr. Bio kind of gave us exactly

452
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what they expected

453
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that available available. We have to do

454
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a deep dive

455
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,599
from the company. Uh that is

456
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um might take some time.

457
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:41,359
>> And so right now available

458
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:47,829
>> um 137's available.

459
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:52,630
» I'm not.

460
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So can I just interpret that? So 137

461
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would be is left un un uh spent

462
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>> correct

463
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>> and the other 125 126 really has been

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spent. We just haven't Yeah. Okay. Just

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wanted to

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>> million6 grants in the pipeline require

467
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some local funding to match it.

468
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,400
>> Oh okay.

469
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,720
M m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m m

470
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,200
matching funds with 1.5.

471
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There are things to support that grant.

472
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,079
Yes.

473
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:28,480
>> Yes. So we've been you know we allocated

474
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2 million 17 million 18 million 19 2

475
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million 21 and so we spent according to

476
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this we spent most of it and that's what

477
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we had left

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that line

479
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and I I think my final question was

480
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,520
about the process for over tag which

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00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,200
barrage address and folk with the vote

482
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into that on Wednesday.

483
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,920
» Did you understand the uh the fun

484
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portion of the assigned fines open?

485
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» Sure.

486
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,359
» Um so that's on side conversation. Um I

487
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:24,319
asked Mr. He sent it to all of us for

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what the open and poss were and um they

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find out all what he all what he

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00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:31,920
outlined in the overview he did send

491
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that

492
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,200
I do have a couple more questions you

493
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,359
cannot prepare to answer um to answer

494
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,280
them right now Mr. M has a couple

495
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,799
questions about that.

496
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:44,789
>> Okay.

497
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:47,760
So M I have the sheet here this one the

498
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screen

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this has some recommendation also we

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need to put this we need to come back to

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this sheet confirm your recommendation

502
00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:59,040
don't put this away please put this on

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the side

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the next you will see the sheet regards

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of vacancies and the new fill and the

506
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2020 budget I did ask for approval of

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that so that we accordingly

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for the current vacancies

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00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,079
in the agenda was removed and a

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recommendation to the new phase.

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This will be on this page.

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Mhm.

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,920
» And if you have any question ask

514
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more of the guidance.

515
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,359
So um on a high level here we're moving

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12 adding

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[Music]

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89.

519
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,559
>> Correct.

520
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,960
>> So, six seven.

521
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,799
>> But then on the bottom section here,

522
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vacancies. So, you have 2 4 6 eight

523
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,960
vacancies.

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,559
And then the top section we were moving

525
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,319
the bottom section we are budgeting it

526
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into 2026

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the vacant position and then this year

528
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,000
she's a new uh new position that

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,200
proposed the first portion of the uh

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,359
making decisions uh has been removed

531
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and then the bottom section has

532
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,079
additions that are vacant but are still

533
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,160
budgeted within

534
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budget.

535
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:08,240
Go ahead. But

536
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,760
>> and I just want to point out that one of

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them is already grant funded. So it's

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00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,240
not

539
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,680
>> that's why I asked the report for us to

540
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,520
see the table say they have

541
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,240
new position they position we need to

542
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,319
identify what are these position

543
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:29,520
so you

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,680
transfer we have the sheet here.

545
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,720
>> Yeah.

546
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,640
>> Any question on that? So these buzzer

547
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,319
transfers are just this is just year to

548
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:38,400
date that one.

549
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,640
>> So

550
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:49,109
that

551
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:52,000
starts off you look at the columns and

552
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,680
the accounts

553
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,640
that are encumbered into

554
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,839
five and then this is year date

555
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:12,950
transfers for 2025. Um, and that kind of

556
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,640
» Are we looking at this one right now?

557
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:25,670
>> Yeah.

558
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,640
» Any question regard?

559
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,760
>> Yes. September

560
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,480
from both NPOS.

561
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Um

562
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,720
>> so no it's all

563
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,760
the transfers are separate from the

564
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,760
for

565
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,480
planning or

566
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,710
the process in purchasing

567
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,640
year usually they're enduring

568
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,839
the next year the transfers are executed

569
01:00:57,839 --> 01:01:02,309
transfers within the line items

570
01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:06,799
So I guess I was trying to figure out

571
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,200
how bit better understanding to how kind

572
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920
like money moves within departments um

573
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,799
for like um I think what promptly gets

574
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,799
questioned when we looking at our police

575
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:20,960
overtime they were there's a significant

576
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,520
um proposal cut from last year um and

577
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,799
chief uh didn't seem didn't really feel

578
01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:31,119
like that was going to be the adequate

579
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:34,400
number. Um, and I know that there's talk

580
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,240
around that and every year we feel that

581
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,760
we have what we need for our first

582
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,280
responders. So, I was trying to figure

583
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,109
out

584
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,200
how do we

585
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,440
find the money every year to um

586
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,920
overtime. I want to ask you a question

587
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,599
maybe in a different way. Well, we

588
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,720
transfer money from one

589
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,480
position, lack of better terms, from

590
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
another. So, so I think it's kind of

591
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,000
like I was trying to get last year's

592
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,880
transfers like and I believe the I think

593
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,440
I last couple years, but maybe last

594
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,119
year's transfer so I could like we can

595
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:13,839
kind of read like what the themes are on

596
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:16,160
what spaces are.

597
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,119
Now, you put some overtime here. We're

598
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,599
over our budget overtime. said that they

599
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,119
reach out to you and sometimes they

600
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:24,640
transfer. So that was the information I

601
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,440
was looking for

602
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,720
but typically um

603
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:41,910
transfers into salary line

604
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,559
and over time and premium. So usually

605
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:48,000
we'll find where you see for example

606
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,760
people come in the department

607
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,270
contract

608
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,000
last contract

609
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,839
within their salary and all the time

610
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:02,640
lines.

611
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,520
>> Okay. So the so the information here

612
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,760
right now wouldn't really necessarily

613
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,640
answer that question. Right.

614
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,640
>> Right. Do you have to look at as much um

615
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,920
their contracts? Um

616
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,520
>> well I mean this again this wasn't just

617
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,440
for police. I used police as an example.

618
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,039
It could be for anyone in any department

619
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:24,000
>> but for any for any um unions uh for any

620
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,960
department the salary lines or lines all

621
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,029
contractual.

622
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:34,240
» Okay. So I guess I'm so we could we

623
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,480
could circle back to that for the

624
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,640
information I'm trying to get is what

625
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,680
are what transfers

626
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,920
happen

627
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,200
within the city from from one line to

628
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,200
another over the last couple years cuz

629
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,039
I'm trying to identify where themes are

630
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:53,760
coming because sometimes it feels like

631
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,359
you know thinking to talk about this

632
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,440
you know maybe there's open positions

633
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,720
that were kind of leaving Vietnam as a

634
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,960
way, you know, to hopefully fill them.

635
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,520
But when they're not filled, we use that

636
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,000
money as a fund to fund other things.

637
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,319
And I think for me and for everyone um

638
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:16,319
that's paying attention to this, I think

639
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:17,839
it would it would be good to have the

640
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:19,280
information. I think it provides a much

641
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,760
clearer thing to say, hey, we're asking

642
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,079
for this in our department. We haven't

643
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:29,119
maybe used these bills in the last two to three years. We have

644
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,680
pulled some of these open positions to

645
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,760
fund this. That's the best information

646
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,799
I'm looking for

647
01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:38,960
and that this won't provide that right

648
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,280
now. So, we can just um we'll work

649
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,160
together and necessary information.

650
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,280
Thank you.

651
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,309
>> So, do you want to follow up with

652
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:51,039
» Mhm.

653
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,680
>> So, we as

654
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,599
finished follow make a note of it follow

655
01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:59,760
up. So you'll kind of go through all the

656
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,359
things that are in the unfinished pile

657
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:03,119
before we leave, right?

658
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:05,520
>> Yeah, that's I'm moving. Yes, that's

659
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,720
good. And anything that we need to

660
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,920
follow up, we'll do. Anything that we

661
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,200
need to complete the question and answer

662
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,760
goes on different path. Uh Mr. Farley,

663
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,599
you had another question regarding um

664
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:16,960
you asked for report detailed

665
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,079
information on golf course revenue that

666
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:21,599
can be tracked for future capital

667
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:24,630
project.

668
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:30,000
No, but I but I no I didn't receive that information. So what I again what I

669
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,319
was looking for is in the course of our

670
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:33,599
conversation it seemed like course

671
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:37,200
unfunded there um that uh I believe it

672
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,920
was Mr. Rolling was saying that we're

673
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,920
trying to get the golf course to a point

674
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,960
where it's self-sufficient and

675
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,960
discriminating and black. One mechanism

676
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,960
to do that is taking um revenue and the

677
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,839
revenue goes back into the general fund.

678
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,920
However, when we looking at our capital

679
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,520
project, we're borrowing that government

680
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,440
to do to do the project, but it could be

681
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,319
budget.

682
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:02,400
>> We're not budgeting off um capital

683
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,160
reserves.

684
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,839
>> Okay, I help you understand that. So,

685
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:08,720
>> so they they make enough money where we

686
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,280
put into their fund balance where we

687
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,720
don't have to borrow from any of their

688
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,400
capitals,

689
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,559
>> right? So, any of the capital requests

690
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,880
that we're making, it's they're they're

691
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,240
make we're pulling that from the funds

692
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,480
that they're bringing in. Correct.

693
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,280
>> Right. Okay. Yeah, that's Well, yeah.

694
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,880
And we already capital information as

695
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,079
far as what the revenue is.

696
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,079
>> Yeah. So, if you if you look at the

697
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,319
capital expenditures at the year at the

698
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:35,680
end of the budget, you see that the line

699
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,400
that says uh reserve funds captures

700
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,520
for each section.

701
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,880
>> Certainly. Okay. Yeah, that that was

702
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,480
information that that was I was looking

703
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,920
for. Thank you.

704
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,680
>> Can I

705
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,119
before you So, you need to follow up on

706
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:52,960
this to get this report. Um, no, no, no, If the information is there, I think

707
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,920
I can I can strap it for what we got.

708
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,599
>> 24 are

709
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:03,200
locked in the 25s. Again, that's one of

710
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,119
the things that's very dependent on

711
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:05,760
weather.

712
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:06,160
>> Sure.

713
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,839
>> So, we've run, you know, they upgrade

714
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,720
the courses. Wonderful. Fantastic. We

715
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,480
had a terrible spring

716
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720
>> and so we're still playing catchup to

717
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,720
get to the 24 numbers and 25.

718
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,400
>> I keep our fingers crossed that we're

719
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,599
going to

720
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,359
>> equal that. And if you could tell me

721
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:27,839
what the weather's going to be in 26,

722
01:07:27,839 --> 01:07:30,799
I'll go back and modify the budget to

723
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:32,319
accommodate

724
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:35,200
>> I can tell you that wouldn't be here.

725
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,520
>> But definitely uh Okay. Yeah. So what

726
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,559
because my thought is uh for that is

727
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:42,960
that if we can I mean with the variable

728
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,720
the weather seems to be a pretty large

729
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,720
variable um within consideration of that

730
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,119
>> um looking at okay what would be the

731
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,319
anticipated uh revenue I think that

732
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:56,640
>> looking at that revenue again to support

733
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,000
um the the youth services line on that's

734
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,880
the trail I'm looking to go down that's

735
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,630
request

736
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,240
This is part of your

737
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,599
followup question in terms of um in

738
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:14,880
terms of the funding that you were

739
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,880
trying

740
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,359
at all in terms of the fee any special

741
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:20,480
fee increase

742
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:23,440
>> to offset the some sort of sort of

743
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,199
mentioning back on your viewing.

744
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:27,520
>> Well certainly I think but after the

745
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,960
conversation I I was thinking a couple

746
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,159
different things and we could look at

747
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:35,120
the increase of of of service fee.

748
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,279
think that that's doable, but also

749
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,400
looking at the what's what's existing um

750
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,679
and maybe uh prioritizing that money to

751
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:46,319
support the youth service line

752
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:47,759
>> even if we didn't.

753
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,679
>> Um so I just wanted to say cuz I was

754
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:53,040
looking at Mr. Farlay's question um that

755
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,679
the course is fully self-sufficient. So,

756
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,279
I just wanted to clarify that because

757
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,199
this said that you wanted to make sure

758
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:00,719
that we were able to move the course

759
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:03,359
toward full self-sufficiency, but it is

760
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,319
actually um fully self-sufficient and

761
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:10,560
actually generating revenue uh for the city. And then I do have a

762
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,000
couple of ideas that I haven't had a

763
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,040
chance to share with you um around the

764
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,880
$150,000 that I will share with you um

765
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,199
that wouldn't affect this budget. That

766
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:23,520
would be other requests that maybe we

767
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,440
could make to others.

768
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,920
um around that 150,000.

769
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,719
>> Yeah. And I and so yeah, I look like

770
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:32,719
having those conversations with you. I

771
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,199
what I was saying is that I recognize

772
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:37,440
that it is self self-sufficient. Mr.

773
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:39,920
Robin was saying that the process that

774
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,400
happens right now is is to make sure

775
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,480
that that the golf course the golf

776
01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:48,480
course stays in the black and to support

777
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:52,319
their own capital projects. Um and my

778
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:55,120
I'm just a thought after you know we put

779
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,000
we made quite a significant uh

780
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,400
investment in the golf course from ARPA

781
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,560
funds um to justify you know what could

782
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,520
result in a re rate increase and or

783
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,600
maybe re rep prioritizing some of that

784
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,760
money that's existing to support the

785
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,040
youth services line.

786
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,719
>> Thank you Mr.

787
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:19,440
>> Any other questions? So after this mark

788
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:22,080
is done, Mr. Farley um

789
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,679
>> or you just want to follow up and put

790
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:25,440
>> Well, I mean I got the I got the

791
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:26,880
information we'll just explore some

792
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,800
ideas and what we can do. Thank you.

793
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:29,520
>> Okay. Y

794
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,840
>> All right. So the next document I have

795
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:44,790
is work is consider

796
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,590
behind that was um how

797
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,520
Police

798
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,790
condition

799
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,149
saying that

800
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:04,640
um based on this document there claims

801
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,800
throughout the city

802
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,040
believe that it might be with people

803
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,880
sometimes functioning out of their

804
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,440
immediate scope. So I think we can think

805
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:17,520
back to how the medios are defined and

806
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,760
method just with the general catch all

807
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,159
of the certification

808
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,640
or operating certain machinery but just

809
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,159
because you need one you can use

810
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:32,640
and see does that mean you are expected

811
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,760
to jump in between all the expectations.

812
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,080
So we wanted to have presentation to

813
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,000
have a specific department that each

814
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,800
person is attributed to um with the

815
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,280
hopes to keep this number down or

816
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,320
identify what's the cost because I I

817
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,320
find it hard to believe that individual

818
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,159
products one of our waste apparatuses

819
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:58,239
day in and day out some of the um that

820
01:11:58,239 --> 01:11:59,679
we see which I know is an executive

821
01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:02,159
session seem like they are avoidable

822
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:12,550
instances that due to lasting

823
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,239
That is something that we can discuss as

824
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:16,719
a console committee session and we have

825
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:18,400
to do an executive session and we still

826
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,600
do it and follow and talk about policies

827
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,360
and things that bring in commission or

828
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,280
GS commission to discuss further in

829
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,520
terms of

830
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,239
any concern

831
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:31,840
>> not the policy though but how they're

832
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,880
identify I think that has value in our

833
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,600
discussion for budget.

834
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,199
>> What you mean discuss put it in the

835
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:42,159
budget in terms of the the expected um

836
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:42,640
outcome.

837
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,679
>> So your MO and SNAP doesn't mean you

838
01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:49,440
know subtle NOS like I'm using this to

839
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,760
justify there are differences

840
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,520
>> and even if you are pulled from one

841
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,199
that's fair but I think understanding

842
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,360
where you're pulling from is an

843
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,800
important fact that to be outlined.

844
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,760
>> Go ahead.

845
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,679
>> Well no I just I think that Mr. Williams

846
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:06,560
just clarified for me. Um, so because we

847
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,040
do move them around as needed and I

848
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,440
think that you just said that, right?

849
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:15,030
>> Yeah. Go ahead.

850
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,159
» Go ahead. So please, so you asked for um

851
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:20,400
working

852
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:26,149
did you only specifically ask for in the

853
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:29,040
significant number

854
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:41,110
and this is only

855
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,400
Oh, I didn't prove that one.

856
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,560
Next time

857
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:55,189
next page, I did ask for a copy of the

858
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,520
more of like a high level summary in

859
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,719
terms of how many money um allocated to

860
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:04,640
the city and how many is allocated for

861
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,320
the agency. But I can do that because I

862
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,640
will take the Excel version and um

863
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,880
I'm going to do my own because I just

864
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,480
want to highlight that because I know

865
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,719
you know we already

866
01:14:16,719 --> 01:14:19,199
that um

867
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:23,760
we awarded uh money to our friends and families. So I wanted to

868
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,199
highlight that to make sure that when we

869
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,840
address that just watch it to identify

870
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,480
how much money was awarded to the city

871
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:32,480
and the other agency that received the

872
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,040
funding and to identify those so we can

873
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:41,430
put that to rest.

874
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:46,870
» The next report on this is a smart city.

875
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,520
So I I as I asked about that and um and

876
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,000
they referred to the fact that we gave

877
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,600
information just over exactly how fun

878
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,760
is there a follow up to this? Yeah, he

879
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:12,709
said it would take some time.

880
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:14,960
» How do you want broken down? How much we

881
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:20,159
spend on fiber? You want access points?

882
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:24,560
Well, so I'm a customer, but again,

883
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,320
so yeah, bring it down because um I'm

884
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,280
sure you know what I was trying to

885
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,320
figure out. It's not but it looks like

886
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,440
uh you're saying that we only have

887
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:38,080
137,000 left. So it's not a huge amount

888
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,760
of money.

889
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,280
Um

890
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,280
but I didn't sure if it's if at this

891
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,199
point let me think it through if it's

892
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,360
worth it. But I know we put it we you

893
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,960
know we had 7 million in there. I didn't

894
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,880
realize what fent to do.

895
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,560
The question is we're asking for your

896
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,000
breakdown of the smart city money

897
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,400
including what has been spent.

898
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,760
>> How much remain any open uh purchase

899
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,199
orders

900
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:08,400
>> in 23 and 21 we spent um like over well

901
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,960
yeah 2 million over 2 million in 21 and

902
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,120
over 3 million in 23 and the other

903
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,470
years.

904
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,800
So, and I thought that by now it's we're

905
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,040
in 25 that we were supposed to be have

906
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,520
like wrapped this up and um gotten it

907
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,800
done, but now we're getting more money.

908
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,000
So, there's obviously more to be done.

909
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,880
So, yes, that would be just how we spend

910
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,760
it and but what um

911
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,679
Mr. Kin said is that the new money

912
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:40,000
that's coming in the 1.6 million can

913
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,239
only be spent on smart city and nothing

914
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,360
else. the kind of lighting that we need

915
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,880
in the budget only

916
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,760
>> that's going to

917
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:56,310
platform primarily

918
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,310
go

919
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,400
» something that you can get in the

920
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,669
private

921
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:09,520
typically for accounts payable

922
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,360
>> detailed yeah detailed documents It's a

923
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:19,590
lot of documents but hundreds of pages.

924
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,880
» So I looked specific or you get briefing

925
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,920
from Mr. Ken on what has been spent.

926
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,880
>> So what you so if it's spent it's spent

927
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,360
and it was just is there anything that's

928
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,760
encumbered but not spent in this? So

929
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,679
open field

930
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:38,880
that's what

931
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,280
>> just this specific amount right here

932
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,920
>> and then the available amount

933
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,280
37 that's what

934
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,640
>> so I since it was a significant amount

935
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,120
tax um

936
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,280
there's not a lot left so I'm not sure I

937
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,719
mean if you can get some that would be

938
01:17:56,719 --> 01:17:59,199
fine but it's only there's only $137

939
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,280
there

940
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,640
that's even available

941
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,199
And really we're trying to see if the um

942
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:09,360
1.6 million that we're getting could

943
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,280
have we could have gotten some of that

944
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,080
from this back to the general fund.

945
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,040
That's that was my

946
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,719
>> again

947
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:18,080
capital. You can't do

948
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,320
>> I got it. I understand that was I was

949
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,960
thinking I didn't know. So now you know

950
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,239
I was like I figured out that we can

951
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:26,480
move some of that money there.

952
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,040
We can't we cannot

953
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,199
move. Um

954
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:34,480
maybe you can ask for what but it's it's

955
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:36,880
just it's it's not a significant amount

956
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,960
that it'll help but it won't it really

957
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,040
won't close

958
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,480
>> but it was you know it is kind of

959
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:44,480
significant but it looks like it is for

960
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:46,480
capital so because I was thinking the

961
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,520
same thing but

962
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,560
137,000 not chicken food.

963
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,239
>> No sh to your mom

964
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:58,870
>> but it's all set.

965
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,760
Don't move on. A question was asked Miss

966
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,080
Cargo in terms of the board of zoning

967
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,360
appeal piece for services and that was

968
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,880
provided to us

969
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:49,270
that bill from Mr. Williams.

970
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,840
Mr. You had another question regarding

971
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,880
code enforcement a664100

972
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,560
code enforcement office for logic for

973
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,960
eliminating revenue generating and

974
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,120
compliance officer.

975
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,280
Department of the Department of

976
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,440
Administration of public works has been

977
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:12,080
his response was their current

978
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,560
so it's

979
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:39,110
so long.

980
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,760
There was a question here from

981
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,040
fund balance.

982
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,840
>> Yes. And we didn't receive

983
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,760
a detail available.

984
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,590
>> Yes.

985
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,110
» 724

986
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,800
and open purchase order.

987
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,280
>> Yeah.

988
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,000
>> Yes. And you're going to And then this

989
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,560
we have this report here in terms of the

990
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,840
last report. You're going to be so you

991
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:06,640
want to

992
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,400
>> Yeah. I have some questions. I said

993
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,000
so there should be a followup.

994
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:18,149
>> Yes.

995
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:19,679
I'm sorry. Which one was that?

996
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:21,280
>> This was this.

997
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:29,189
>> Oh, yeah. Okay. Thank you.

998
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:32,800
» Okay. Um I think that's all I have in

999
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,880
terms of question. Are there any other

1000
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,189
questions that

1001
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,280
you have? I don't think I'm missing.

1002
01:21:41,280 --> 01:22:00,629
That's all I have.

1003
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:03,360
just so

1004
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:08,310
we'll go back to you in terms of your um

1005
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,080
I think we answer the question and we

1006
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:20,470
can go through your um recommendation

1007
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,920
in terms of recommendation that we think

1008
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:35,270
please make notes

1009
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:46,660
You should have this page.

1010
01:22:46,670 --> 01:23:09,669
[Music]

1011
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:12,000
So walk us for a while on this line and

1012
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,120
if we have question we can ask and then

1013
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,120
we'll move to the next

1014
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,520
So starting

1015
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,600
recommendations, but what in order

1016
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000
to rail a lot of regiments just

1017
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,040
identifying just issues or concerns with

1018
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,440
respect

1019
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:35,760
to the general fund in a year that is

1020
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,600
conceivably one of the most difficult

1021
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,679
years in the state and I would

1022
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:42,719
absolutely agree. So I think if we are

1023
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:44,480
put in best position to then further

1024
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:48,480
evaluate us for expenses that are very

1025
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,000
much needed. I think we have to go

1026
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:54,070
through

1027
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,760
fully meet the request of certain

1028
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,880
apartments um and not completely forego

1029
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,199
certain expenses just due to your

1030
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:06,000
current. So um each vehicle that I use

1031
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,760
there is

1032
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,760
there were never I didn't zero down any

1033
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,920
recommendations. So reducing from 2 to

1034
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,480
one. Um I know for some of our

1035
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,159
recommendations we do come at different

1036
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:18,320
cost. There's a difference between

1037
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,719
reducing

1038
01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:24,239
two rear packers to one is different

1039
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,320
than reducing

1040
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,600
I think 350 from two to one parks. So I

1041
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,000
know that those have different weights.

1042
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,880
Um but sincerely didn't calculate all of

1043
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,440
the recommendations that I had that fall

1044
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,080
to $2.19 million.

1045
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,280
is a large figure that can influence the

1046
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,960
difference between people who make

1047
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,320
decisions between the taxes and choosing

1048
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,679
between food and other meanings in their

1049
01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:54,960
households. Um I would point out the

1050
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,840
last recommendation I had was in line

1051
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,080
with just how the refuse and waste

1052
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,000
charges have increased considerably for

1053
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,159
people in the city. Um that A2130 D line

1054
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:08,400
which

1055
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:09,760
what is it again?

1056
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:16,080
>> Uh alpha 2130 delta that refers to the

1057
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,800
>> waste outside the city. The past few

1058
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,400
years I've saw that number just rise

1059
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,560
uh considerably lower in respect to just

1060
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,480
fees increases for residents within the

1061
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:28,639
city. With that followed in line with

1062
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:31,760
the expectations for increases for

1063
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,320
people living in the city which is 32%.

1064
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,120
Increasing that to similar standards

1065
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,679
that possibility did not calculate back

1066
01:25:39,679 --> 01:25:42,639
into my overall overall number that way

1067
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:46,320
by $195,000.

1068
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,080
Just showing if they're asking our

1069
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,880
residents to pay more for trash. I think

1070
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,840
it's disingenuous to give that service

1071
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,199
away for free. I know it's not free with

1072
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:00,080
a marginally less increase outside of

1073
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,639
the city.

1074
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:06,159
May contract we have a contract under

1075
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:08,320
deal with Scotia for that. So there's an

1076
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,400
inflationary

1077
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,199
uh proponent of that

1078
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:15,520
and I apologize I don't know what your

1079
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,800
contracts are but we cannot go down the

1080
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,760
path taking

1081
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,600
items that are budgeted in the capital

1082
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,159
budget and then look at putting it in

1083
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,719
the general budget items in the 26

1084
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:33,120
capital budget have almost no effect on

1085
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,639
26 budget. Those are items that we would

1086
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:40,880
hopefully buy in 26 or going into 27.

1087
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,520
And the impact is really 27, but

1088
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,600
the message coming out saying that

1089
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,440
you're looking at taking money that we

1090
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,679
intend to borrow

1091
01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:54,400
and that's again proposals the capital

1092
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,960
budget. You probably have to switch that

1093
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,960
to a RAN revenue anticipation note or a

1094
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,520
CAN tax

1095
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:14,790
anticipation note.

1096
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,199
» Our capital budget is like um a

1097
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:19,440
Christmas wish list, right? What we

1098
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:23,120
need, what we need and we always

1099
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,120
approach you. I understood we need

1100
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,360
money,

1101
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:33,120
>> right? And we usually borrow money

1102
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,480
to fund more those capital funds.

1103
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:38,159
>> Correct.

1104
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:40,800
>> Uh if if I may say, I mean, what the

1105
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,080
suggestion is on the table in terms of

1106
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,400
we're in a delicate position

1107
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,760
>> and we Yes, it's it's a capital. We're

1108
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,360
going to borrow money. It's not part of

1109
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:51,920
the budget,

1110
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,679
>> but if you don't want to borrow it, I

1111
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:55,360
understand that. But you cannot take

1112
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:56,800
that money,

1113
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,480
>> which you're saying borrow.

1114
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,320
>> It's not It's not money that we have.

1115
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,280
>> It's funny that um

1116
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,360
the message is that I know we're we're

1117
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,880
tight crunch. We need a tight no way

1118
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,360
more money. Can we put this off?

1119
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,639
>> Go ahead. Well, I can only speak um spec

1120
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:22,239
I did talk about the uh when I saw this,

1121
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:23,920
I did talk to our parks director about

1122
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,800
the first item and um just wanted to

1123
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,239
point out that the equipment that he

1124
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:32,960
currently is using is like 13 years old.

1125
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,280
Um and that particular truck, he also

1126
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,600
uses it to plow the snow from some of

1127
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,000
the other parks. It's not just limited

1128
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:44,800
to one park. So, it is how we um we use

1129
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,560
it across the across the city. So,

1130
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,719
that's 70,000 I would like to uh keep in

1131
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,480
um but I do understand what we're saying

1132
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,480
that it doesn't affect the taxes in any

1133
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:56,960
way, right? I mean, it's um because

1134
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,280
they're capital projects. So, um but

1135
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,360
that's the only one that I uh wanted to mention to you. And then I

1136
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,800
don't know the only other thing I would

1137
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,080
say though is the IT smart node upgrade.

1138
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,920
Um,

1139
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,840
I think that, you know, Mr. Khan, that

1140
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,159
seemed like a pretty legitimate, we kind

1141
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:20,159
of need it, uh, for our technology. But

1142
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:22,159
again, I'm not a I'm not an IT

1143
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:25,199
specialist, but

1144
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:27,040
>> so whether it becomes out of state now

1145
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,040
or the future, right? The decisions we

1146
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,080
make now, the opponents, what we do are

1147
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,320
going to say this in no way affects next

1148
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,000
year's budget thereafter. So I think we

1149
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,520
need to change our practices of how

1150
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,199
we're evaluating like these purchases

1151
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:43,120
moving forward. Um I would say for

1152
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,480
department heads or anyone bringing

1153
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,719
products forward, they don't they're not

1154
01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:48,159
forced to make the decisions or

1155
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,159
calculations that we are responsible for

1156
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:53,199
in this room. Their focus point is how

1157
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,199
do I approve the living conditions of

1158
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:56,719
people in the safe? So they're going to

1159
01:29:56,719 --> 01:29:58,960
be for everything on this list and there

1160
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,040
always is going to be justification for

1161
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,320
these things.

1162
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,159
>> If not, I would question their logically

1163
01:30:04,159 --> 01:30:05,840
accepting it. Um

1164
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,719
>> but the responsibility we have now is

1165
01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:10,400
what difficult decisions are we going to

1166
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,960
make because if we continue to say we

1167
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,360
can we need can't do without this thing

1168
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,719
and I would say let's just we're going

1169
01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:18,719
to waste the time and just pass the

1170
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:23,350
budget.

1171
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,120
» Uh we have to understand I mean there's

1172
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,719
some money that we can borrow at some

1173
01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:28,000
point in time we're going to have to

1174
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
taxpayers going to pay the next year or

1175
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,000
two. So, it's cost going to be added to

1176
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,400
the budget in a year or two. And it's

1177
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,920
like similar to home. I mean, we're

1178
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,080
tight crunch in your your own personal

1179
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,280
life and go there and buy an SUV on top

1180
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,760
of all the escalation and the price

1181
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,199
that's going on and down the road you

1182
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:47,679
have to pay for it. So yes, we're going

1183
01:30:47,679 --> 01:30:50,320
to part money, but uh we need to be very

1184
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:51,679
careful what we do

1185
01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:53,040
>> because if we're going to be cutting

1186
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,360
across the border, we need to make sure

1187
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,520
that we address

1188
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:57,760
every

1189
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,159
>> department

1190
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:02,000
by not making some of those capital

1191
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,480
investments to drive up the maintenance

1192
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:11,590
costs and other lands.

1193
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,440
» Oh, just got the individual back full

1194
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:16,159
time. Hopefully not.

1195
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:17,600
H listen,

1196
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,679
>> there was a full-time person how we were

1197
01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:21,600
identified that was off for a

1198
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,199
considerable amount of the year that

1199
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:25,120
individual is now back. Some of the

1200
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,280
expectations that Mr. Lefon had with

1201
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,040
being able to work with individuals

1202
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,719
offline to help with some of those

1203
01:31:30,719 --> 01:31:33,440
internal concerns he hasn't been able to

1204
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:35,920
do for much of this year. Hopefully that

1205
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,390
cost savings into next year.

1206
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,120
But the thought also is if our equipment

1207
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,560
is not getting into more accidents

1208
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,080
because we're keeping people in line

1209
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,120
with their work workflow expectations,

1210
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,440
the vehicles apparatuses will stay in

1211
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:57,110
good functional way.

1212
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,719
Do you want to touch on the bottom of

1213
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:04,070
your page?

1214
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,040
» Um 60p 1621

1215
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,320
kind of walk us through there and then

1216
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,639
we'll page and then we'll go into the

1217
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:15,189
other

1218
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:17,920
» 1621 that

1219
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:22,960
>> it's not these. Yeah. So the SL chart

1220
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,560
clearly the year to date uh for that

1221
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,080
line 1621 to 41 the year was 10% and

1222
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:36,390
going up through the year but sincerely

1223
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,280
focus here is how do we these reductions

1224
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,040
get closer in line with that unique

1225
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:45,669
minds.

1226
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:49,280
So with that just trying to every dollar

1227
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:54,950
is looking at your dollars.

1228
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,920
Any question on that?

1229
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,760
So move to E3120

1230
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:13,189
that is on edition 32.

1231
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:16,709
Great.

1232
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:20,390
31.

1233
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,480
» I'm sorry. What page was it, Mr. M?

1234
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:25,360
31.

1235
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,270
>> Thank you.

1236
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,440
» Yeah, I have administration.

1237
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:36,400
>> So, here it is 50% and two months left

1238
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:41,110
in the year.

1239
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,840
» May 31. I imagine that would be one of

1240
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,040
those lines where there are uh those

1241
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,880
transfers

1242
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,760
calculate those

1243
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,080
funds ahead of time. We can deliberately

1244
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,679
fund some other things rather than not

1245
01:33:55,679 --> 01:33:57,600
include them and have to have a budget

1246
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,600
appropriation to include them.

1247
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,760
>> So can I just um Mr. Williams? So

1248
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,960
instead of

1249
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,719
So you want to actually

1250
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:14,639
3120

1251
01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:17,120
402. Oh, you are you adding all three of

1252
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,040
those 402s

1253
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,480
or four? There's four of them, I'm

1254
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:22,080
sorry. Or is it just the plain one

1255
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,159
administration expense?

1256
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:25,120
>> Just the plain one.

1257
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,800
>> Gotcha. So you want that to go down by

1258
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,639
25,000

1259
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:32,080
>> based on the fact that the year end date

1260
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,080
is 50%.

1261
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,880
Um, and I don't have a note on that

1262
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,600
particular one

1263
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,719
>> on what it was for.

1264
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:43,040
>> I would say Mr. a point there not been

1265
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:48,560
glaring out side of large increases or decreases in this line for it to

1266
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,480
cause like

1267
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,000
a point of comment like when they're

1268
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,120
coming to present for me and I had other

1269
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,400
questions about our overtime lines drawn

1270
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,800
from because for police and fire it's

1271
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,480
on a recent basis that the majority of

1272
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:06,639
those expenses come in December. So that

1273
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:09,520
draws me to ask why. Because if we can

1274
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,080
eliminate that or reduce it, that would

1275
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,320
make considerable savings for us. And if

1276
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,880
you're going to tell me, it's because we

1277
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,480
have a holiday in December. There are

1278
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:20,080
holidays and other ones that don't draw

1279
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,880
that much money. And I know I'm jumping

1280
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,360
around a little bit, but over time lines

1281
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,080
and at least confirm

1282
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,880
resident reviewing comments. Um year

1283
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,199
date one was like 1%. So you're telling

1284
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:35,120
me that's going to jump 99% in the month

1285
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,080
of December?

1286
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:37,679
>> I I hear what you're saying. So I think

1287
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:39,280
we I'd like to hear more of an

1288
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:40,480
explanation as well.

1289
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:42,800
>> So that wasn't one of my discuss

1290
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,320
reduction because that requires more

1291
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,639
conversation. Um but that's why I asked

1292
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:46,960
it.

1293
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:54,950
>> Yeah. No, I I

1294
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,520
asked the question around the transfers

1295
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,159
and getting that information while

1296
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:02,880
decision. I feel like there's probably

1297
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,639
really good justifiable reasons why some

1298
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:05,760
of the things are moving the way they

1299
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,679
are. We just kind of need to have a

1300
01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:25,910
better understanding of it.

1301
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,719
Now that is

1302
01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:33,120
>> um I just so maybe um our commissioner

1303
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,440
could just explain it might just be an

1304
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:37,360
accounting thing but why the spend down

1305
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,199
happens in December because I understand

1306
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:42,080
what Mr. Williams is saying. So

1307
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,960
>> some contractual payment

1308
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:50,470
>> to be here

1309
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,880
» specifically looking for 31.

1310
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,360
>> Um well there were a few aren't there a

1311
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,840
couple that go

1312
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,280
>> 3120 117. Well that's holiday. Okay.

1313
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,960
Yeah, it's dependent on the contract.

1314
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,360
Um, but I believe this one in particular

1315
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,040
was uh one of the uh members that they

1316
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,400
need to um status

1317
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,629
out.

1318
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:19,280
» Mhm.

1319
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:25,910
>> Okay.

1320
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,600
» Any other question regarding

1321
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,679
proposal?

1322
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:38,070
If I move to page 6

1323
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,560
8664

1324
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,580
100

1325
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:53,109
[Music]

1326
01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:56,800
» So they lowered the

1327
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,639
proposed law enforcement officers from

1328
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:00,880
12 to 10 and then One of my big comments

1329
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,960
was why would we do that? Um we're going

1330
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,880
to talk to Mr. Fency to say they were

1331
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,639
actually at five. Um I don't know how no

1332
01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:09,840
one needs to think that they're going to

1333
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,920
hire five code enforcement officers in

1334
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,520
2026.

1335
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,400
I'm going to push back and say some to

1336
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,920
none. Um I'm going say some but I think

1337
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,520
that also follow the question a lot of

1338
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,040
the conversations we had before this

1339
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:24,560
discussion about that department of

1340
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,440
itself separate conversation. So I

1341
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:31,360
definitely think looking to lower that

1342
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,679
number for more reasonable figure two

1343
01:38:35,679 --> 01:38:36,880
positions away. I don't think that's

1344
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,320
hurting anyone and there's still

1345
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,119
available positions for individuals they

1346
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:45,590
identify themselves.

1347
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,960
» So you're suggesting lowering from 10 to

1348
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,960
a lower number

1349
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,760
>> of vegan positions. Yes. just want to

1350
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,189
close up.

1351
01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:00,239
» I need a different color.

1352
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:04,719
>> It's start I I think that what it seems

1353
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:06,239
might be happening. And I guess what I'm

1354
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:08,639
my wondering is when again when we're

1355
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:10,800
having these vacant positions that are

1356
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:16,080
left in um does that become

1357
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,440
uh yeah draw source for different

1358
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:21,520
expenses and that's why and I'm sure

1359
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,679
that we've captured that in transfers

1360
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:25,600
understand like where that information

1361
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,400
happens but we'll be able to see that

1362
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,320
but that's that was the my entire uh

1363
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,000
like some of my receptions that

1364
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:37,440
there's most likely going to be

1365
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:40,639
shortfalls in our revenues uh in this

1366
01:39:40,639 --> 01:39:42,560
year. We're probably not going to hit

1367
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,560
figures depending if you look at, you

1368
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,480
know, later days. So,

1369
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:51,199
that's going to be captured. Um you're

1370
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:52,960
not going to see any savings from these

1371
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,760
salary lines from these overtime lines.

1372
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,560
um you know depending on if we did hit

1373
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,199
100% of these revenue numbers then yes

1374
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:05,750
maybe

1375
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:06,080
uh

1376
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:10,629
>> fun.

1377
01:40:10,639 --> 01:40:14,960
So yeah, I don't think I'm missing. So

1378
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,800
my question is how much money is being

1379
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,360
left in vacant positions and then being

1380
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:25,040
pulled from the what would be this

1381
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,719
position that it was filled to go to a

1382
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:28,400
different expense? I that's the question

1383
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:29,600
I'm trying to figure out.

1384
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:33,600
>> Go in here and we look at expenditures

1385
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,719
uh try to balance everything out. So say

1386
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:42,639
if okay we have budgeted five something

1387
01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:46,159
currently and our revenue expectations

1388
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:49,679
and our expenses are um fund balances

1389
01:40:49,679 --> 01:40:51,679
going to be decreased.

1390
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:53,760
So I'm not sure if that's answering your

1391
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,480
question. So we might not see the extra

1392
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:59,920
funding salary and overtimes.

1393
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:02,719
So, so what you're saying is that when

1394
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:05,520
the if we don't meet our revenue that

1395
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,320
money that might be in in that position

1396
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,719
held in that line goes to our fund

1397
01:41:10,719 --> 01:41:13,199
balance. That's what you're saying.

1398
01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:15,840
>> So, no, if we meet our revenues meet

1399
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:16,880
expectations.

1400
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,320
>> Sure.

1401
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,719
>> Revenues are over expenditures

1402
01:41:20,719 --> 01:41:24,639
>> that have to balance.

1403
01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:26,159
>> Yeah. It still doesn't answer that

1404
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:28,000
question as far as well I think again I

1405
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,119
just need to get information on

1406
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:29,600
transfers.

1407
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,800
>> Let me see if I can try to So let's use

1408
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,280
um this department code enforcement with

1409
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,159
vacancies.

1410
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:36,480
>> Sure.

1411
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:39,119
>> So if they have to spend on on another

1412
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:41,199
line and if they have funding on one of

1413
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:42,960
those vacancies they use that money

1414
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,760
within that specific department to help

1415
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:47,679
offset any overrun.

1416
01:41:47,679 --> 01:41:49,119
>> Ex Yes, that's what I'm saying.

1417
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:50,239
>> Yeah, I'm trying.

1418
01:41:50,239 --> 01:41:50,880
>> Mhm.

1419
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:52,400
>> They do and that's happening all the

1420
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,159
time. Yes, the police department

1421
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:55,520
mentioned that to us. That's why they

1422
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,679
help with the overtime because they

1423
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:00,800
always have taken position and funding

1424
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,239
on those specific line.

1425
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:04,239
>> So they use that funding within that

1426
01:42:04,239 --> 01:42:05,360
department

1427
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,119
>> to help them with over time or any

1428
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:09,440
additional uh related expense.

1429
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:12,639
>> So at given time they're shortening the

1430
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:15,199
in the dollar amount on your timeline

1431
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,000
>> but in other pockets they can make it up

1432
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,040
over time,

1433
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,119
>> right? But what ends up happening is

1434
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:25,119
that when you know to pass the budget in

1435
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:26,960
good faith,

1436
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,000
if we know that the trend of the last 3

1437
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:36,639
years is that these vacant positions are lines are being pulled from to

1438
01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:38,719
support anything other than that

1439
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:40,560
position, then we should probably have

1440
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,639
like a a more realistic conversation.

1441
01:42:44,639 --> 01:42:46,960
And I think that's kind of what Mr.

1442
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,800
Williams at least uh related to uh my

1443
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,119
inquiry around transfer because it seems

1444
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:55,920
like if I'm a department heading and I'm

1445
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,400
saying I need seven positions. I've only

1446
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,760
filled two in the last 3 years but I've

1447
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,400
pulled from those five bacon positions

1448
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,520
to support another budget line. Let's

1449
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:14,239
just reflect that and say we want the budget line to be funded this way so

1450
01:43:14,239 --> 01:43:17,040
the numbers are are clear is what I'm

1451
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,520
saying. So that's why we need that

1452
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,360
information on on the transfers

1453
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,520
happening so we can identify any trends

1454
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,800
that we're seeing.

1455
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,280
>> Excuse me.

1456
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:29,920
>> Go ahead.

1457
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,159
>> So this actually goes to um a question

1458
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:34,080
based on what Mr.

1459
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,080
said that um because I'm looking I've

1460
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,679
been looking at revenues and how we

1461
01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:39,840
increase them. I think we have this from

1462
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,040
both ends but um you specifically said

1463
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,639
that that maybe we would have some

1464
01:43:46,639 --> 01:43:48,400
revenue that we're anticipating. Is

1465
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,400
there some particular revenue line that

1466
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:57,270
you think we may not hit or several?

1467
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:03,189
I believe home sales is one of them.

1468
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:08,709
But it's already

1469
01:44:08,719 --> 01:44:12,400
» Okay. So, let's um let's continue with

1470
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:24,390
stay on track.

1471
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,960
» So, so it's fairly I mean if you look at

1472
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,000
the majority of it from the last budget

1473
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:30,960
overall.

1474
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,159
>> Mhm. If we were if we had a good sort of

1475
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:35,520
lot this money would come back to the

1476
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,000
general fund from department or

1477
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,320
shortfall they will use the funding

1478
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,870
within department of health.

1479
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,280
» Mhm.

1480
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,709
>> Um

1481
01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:55,270
the next one is um

1482
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:56,560
try to find

1483
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,239
>> I think you you've missed the digit

1484
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:00,400
there. Is that 89 89?

1485
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,760
>> Yes. Oh, I I hope that it's

1486
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,800
I think it's 9089,

1487
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,960
I think. I wasn't sure.

1488
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,520
>> It's on the top of the second page or

1489
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,639
the back page.

1490
01:45:14,639 --> 01:45:18,719
I couldn't really find it either.

1491
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:25,350
>> I didn't I didn't know who it was.

1492
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:26,400
» I need to come back.

1493
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,080
>> What department? What department?

1494
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,830
>> I wasn't sure.

1495
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,199
Where's my budget?

1496
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:40,080
>> Page 30 for 1989.

1497
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,920
>> Oh, maybe it's missing the first number.

1498
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:46,390
Huh?

1499
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,440
» Can you see?

1500
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:51,840
Yes. Yes, it is. Thank you, M.

1501
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:56,709
>> Oh, okay. Okay, I got it. I see it.

1502
01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:59,600
I think they're telling us that July

1503
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,750
demolition

1504
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,840
» 1989. Okay.

1505
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,040
>> A 1989 contingency.

1506
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,149
>> Our year to date is 282,500.

1507
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:17,920
» What is our 28?

1508
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,950
>> 282,51.

1509
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:22,880
» So like 300K.

1510
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:23,920
>> And there's certain things you can

1511
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:25,840
educate around. I can't really say no

1512
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,360
where this has happened but I understand

1513
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,679
what I mean.

1514
01:46:31,679 --> 01:46:34,320
>> Mayor how is our recovery insurance

1515
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,080
recover

1516
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:41,109
taken down after higher?

1517
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:45,600
» It's hit and miss. Some of those uh get

1518
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,880
nothing back and other ones we've been

1519
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,960
fairly successful.

1520
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,280
Is it a long drawn up process report or

1521
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,639
they just settled through the insurance

1522
01:46:54,639 --> 01:46:56,639
company?

1523
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:00,880
>> It seems it's all talked to they're not

1524
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,000
when you're dealing with insurance

1525
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,320
companies, it's never quite as

1526
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:05,760
>> simple where you send them the bill and

1527
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:12,480
they send you back the check. So, it's the what the value is and what the

1528
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:16,070
coverage is.

1529
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,199
We some people cash insurance walk away

1530
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:22,000
from the property

1531
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,920
cash insurance check.

1532
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,920
>> Are we not filing a lean on that very

1533
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,880
moment?

1534
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,159
>> We are now in the past.

1535
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:33,840
>> And sometimes it's a little bit of lag

1536
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,880
from the event till you've identified

1537
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,600
the uh contextual policy that's

1538
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,109
provided.

1539
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:48,709
Any

1540
01:47:48,719 --> 01:47:52,310
question?

1541
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,159
» Yeah, this is line we have to consider

1542
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:56,400
because we do have unfortunate situation

1543
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:57,920
with demo one and things like that. It

1544
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,560
does cost us more money now the 80. We

1545
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,320
used to pay a couple years ago 30

1546
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,360
$40,000 for demo. Now it's almost

1547
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:06,800
double.

1548
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:11,510
>> What line is are you talking?

1549
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:12,239
Oh, you're still

1550
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:14,320
>> we take out of the general fund, but the

1551
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,520
land back gets paid for. So, there's

1552
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,920
different sources there depending on the

1553
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,800
uh again the property what we're trying

1554
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,149
to accomplish.

1555
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:29,119
That's all. Anything else?

1556
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:33,669
>> I don't know.

1557
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:35,760
» So, we're talking about

1558
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:41,119
>> No, no, this is just a discussion of

1559
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:42,719
We're just discussing having open

1560
01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:45,360
dialogue and you know flushing things

1561
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,840
out that people have an idea why you're

1562
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,800
making that um recommendation.

1563
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,639
And the next one here you going to the

1564
01:48:52,639 --> 01:48:54,719
bottom of the page waiting break about

1565
01:48:54,719 --> 01:48:56,639
union negotiations.

1566
01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:59,920
Uh the last one is just a matter of just

1567
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:02,320
practice. I don't know what I've noticed

1568
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,679
in by its past is that taking into

1569
01:49:05,679 --> 01:49:07,360
consideration

1570
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,239
um step offices not being at 100%

1571
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:11,920
individuals are expected to do more

1572
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,000
which is understandable. I think the

1573
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:18,000
worry is when we then make

1574
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,880
payroll or compensation adjustments to

1575
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,280
recognize the work that they have done,

1576
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,360
>> but those adjustments aren't further

1577
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,920
considered one of those departments

1578
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,280
funded

1579
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,639
>> to 100% or have 100% staffing. We've

1580
01:49:32,639 --> 01:49:36,400
then inflated this position. Um, and

1581
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,920
then when we use that position as a

1582
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,360
point of reference to align other

1583
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,040
individuals in like positions, then

1584
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,440
we're now chasing these

1585
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:45,360
just truly

1586
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,119
um

1587
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:51,040
uh absorbent compensation packages that

1588
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:52,560
might not even reflect the work that

1589
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:54,239
they're actually doing at this current

1590
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,800
culture. So later on I was wanting to do

1591
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,639
a job evaluation which was not my idea.

1592
01:49:58,639 --> 01:50:01,679
Mr. probably mentioned it last year um

1593
01:50:01,679 --> 01:50:03,920
just to understand does the right work

1594
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:05,280
align with the right individual at the

1595
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,520
right department but sincerely there has

1596
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,000
to be a stop or an evaluation of how do

1597
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,080
we recognize people going above and

1598
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,639
beyond and to my respect please correct

1599
01:50:14,639 --> 01:50:17,119
me if I'm wrong anyone else that budget

1600
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:19,119
line made the most sense because that is

1601
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:20,639
something that is only in line with this

1602
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:22,639
year and that we can evaluate on an

1603
01:50:22,639 --> 01:50:26,159
annual basis but giving you that

1604
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:28,639
division funding would not throw a

1605
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:30,800
little bit to have

1606
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:32,960
uh having that be an expectation going

1607
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:37,350
forward. It's a consideration.

1608
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,320
So just along those lines perhaps in

1609
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,760
other words like I you know the stipens

1610
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,679
that some departments get but not all

1611
01:50:45,679 --> 01:50:48,719
the departments get them and again I

1612
01:50:48,719 --> 01:50:50,400
understand there's a big difference

1613
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:51,920
between

1614
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,400
public employment and private employment

1615
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:58,080
but you know many of us that many folks

1616
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,480
that work in private employment wouldn't

1617
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:04,719
necessarily get any extra money um if

1618
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:07,040
they were working

1619
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,520
past a certain amount of hours in a day

1620
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,840
or uh and I know some of it is

1621
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,080
contractual and and negotiated in our in

1622
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,080
our contracts here, but you know there might be an expectation where

1623
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,960
folks you know if you have a job

1624
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,119
especially a senior management job for

1625
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:25,119
example you have to stay until you

1626
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:28,320
finish the work um without necessarily

1627
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,400
getting a stipend but again that's

1628
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,960
probably different in public and go

1629
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:33,840
ahead

1630
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,639
>> those were put and it's developed over

1631
01:51:36,639 --> 01:51:40,000
time. Those are put in for people who I

1632
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,440
make calls to at 2:00, 3:00, 4:00 in the

1633
01:51:43,440 --> 01:51:45,360
morning. I expect them to answer the

1634
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,440
phone. I expect them to respond. I

1635
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:48,880
expect them to deal with whatever

1636
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,679
situation's in front of them. It is way

1637
01:51:51,679 --> 01:51:54,560
far above and beyond somebody having to

1638
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,760
work a couple hours.

1639
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:07,589
>> Gotcha.

1640
01:52:07,599 --> 01:52:09,119
We have to look at it on a broader

1641
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:11,760
picture in terms of uh we're not raising

1642
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,199
enough revenue

1643
01:52:13,199 --> 01:52:16,000
>> and we're we're asking the taxpayers to

1644
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:20,560
fit the the bill so that we can increase

1645
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,639
our costs

1646
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:24,719
and I think it's fair working I mean

1647
01:52:24,719 --> 01:52:26,480
going back to the private sector from

1648
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:27,760
the private sector if you're not

1649
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,159
bringing revenue you're not getting

1650
01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:31,840
bonus you're not getting a raise.

1651
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:32,560
>> That's that's

1652
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,000
>> so we have to treat the city

1653
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,159
similar to the private sector. We bring

1654
01:52:38,159 --> 01:52:41,280
in revenue, we return the expenditure

1655
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,440
back and for making it then we need to

1656
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:45,840
adjust. I mean, yes, I'm a big advocate

1657
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,520
for police and dividend raise, but at

1658
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,040
some point in time, we have to let you

1659
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,679
know

1660
01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:57,119
does not allow for us to give you x

1661
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:00,400
amount to raise on a given year or we

1662
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,639
can make up in a future year as we go

1663
01:53:02,639 --> 01:53:04,960
on. And I mean, they should understand

1664
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,199
that we are in crunch time. So, we have

1665
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:09,840
to crunch our numbers. Uh, it's not it's

1666
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,679
not easy thing for us to do across the

1667
01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:16,310
board here.

1668
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,040
Well, I I want to make sure that my

1669
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,280
order is clear. It's not to align a city

1670
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,599
with like a forprofit corporation

1671
01:53:23,599 --> 01:53:26,560
because it's not. But sincerely, I think

1672
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,520
being to put the emphasis on staff and

1673
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,599
when we don't, that has a burden on

1674
01:53:31,599 --> 01:53:34,880
departments. But we can't absorb that

1675
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,800
into each individual staff and to

1676
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,320
appease individuals

1677
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,800
>> because when we look at it collectively,

1678
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:42,080
>> that is also part of the reason why

1679
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,760
we're here.

1680
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,480
>> Not 100%. But we're looking at the

1681
01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:48,800
details of how we ensure next year's

1682
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,040
budget is not as bad. Otherwise, there's

1683
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:57,510
pretty all hand down moment.

1684
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,199
Then go back to the conversation that we

1685
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:01,280
have with Miss Carr where she had she

1686
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:05,040
was requesting a pretty reasonable pot

1687
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,719
of money that that was going to be

1688
01:54:06,719 --> 01:54:08,400
considered for overtime. In the course

1689
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,080
of that conversation, what she said was

1690
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:14,560
that her team is working um and and

1691
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,280
based on the the need that they are

1692
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:19,440
flexing their time. So, in other words,

1693
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:21,360
if they have to present to us and

1694
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,119
they're they're staying late doing a

1695
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:24,719
presentation for us or we're out in the

1696
01:54:24,719 --> 01:54:26,320
community doing something, then instead

1697
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,400
of their work day maybe starting at 8:00

1698
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,080
when you got the birthday starting at

1699
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:30,960
10:00.

1700
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:32,320
>> So, and I think that when we were

1701
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,040
considering um compensation packages

1702
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,480
last year, um a lot of the conversation

1703
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,199
was we want to get people to a point to

1704
01:54:41,199 --> 01:54:44,080
where obviously um we're compensating

1705
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,360
them fairly for the work that we're

1706
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:46,639
doing.

1707
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:49,440
I mean, I think that there's I don't

1708
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,599
think this has to be one one extreme or

1709
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:53,520
the other. Maybe there's a scenario in

1710
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:57,920
which we create a collective um

1711
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:05,760
uh I'm using this term stipen that is spread across the board and we

1712
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,440
know that we only going to use these in

1713
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,000
those most very extreme circumstances

1714
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,080
that the major mayor is talking about.

1715
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:13,920
And then

1716
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,159
for other departments, the expectation

1717
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:20,000
would be for people to um to flex their

1718
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,679
time and or you know and and

1719
01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:26,159
understanding that the raises that are

1720
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:27,840
given that have been given in our

1721
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,000
subsequent years really should reflect

1722
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:31,520
the value of the position that they're

1723
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,760
doing cuz if that's not the case then

1724
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,000
how what was the formula and I think

1725
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,440
this goes to Mr. lawyers for us a little

1726
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,639
bit as the decided to give those um

1727
01:55:40,639 --> 01:55:57,669
favorable races to begin with.

1728
01:55:57,679 --> 01:56:00,880
Um this der would you mind give us a

1729
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,080
report in terms of the management prices

1730
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,400
>> the total cost.

1731
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,639
>> Did I uh did I

1732
01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:18,550
>> no you can get it

1733
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,400
» we'll move to the next page and you have

1734
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,280
some questions there.

1735
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,480
>> Uh all those are provided answers. All

1736
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,320
>> uh these are the questions. I appreciate

1737
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:29,360
this.

1738
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,080
>> Perfect. Perfect. Improvements on

1739
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,840
initiatives.

1740
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,080
>> Um want to address that because it's

1741
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,960
part of

1742
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,840
>> Yes. No. So the garbage we had to

1743
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,520
address garbage. I know there were

1744
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,119
comments at the last city council

1745
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:47,599
meeting um by a collective body that

1746
01:56:47,599 --> 01:56:49,599
voted that legislation through. I do not

1747
01:56:49,599 --> 01:56:51,599
think it fall, you know, I do not think

1748
01:56:51,599 --> 01:56:53,199
it does not fall on any one of us

1749
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:56,560
singularly. Um but sincerely the bulk

1750
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,320
items that needs to be revisited but um

1751
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,480
there was a revenue lines talking about

1752
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,960
evaluation of revenue lines that did not

1753
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,239
meet. There was one for trash for half a

1754
01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:12,000
million dollars. I remember vividly a

1755
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,239
discussion of how can we anticipate that

1756
01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:16,159
revenue

1757
01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:19,040
prior to see legislation passed and the

1758
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,159
mayor was very in the fact that that

1759
01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:23,440
money was going to be here. There was

1760
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,760
not no need to really can't those

1761
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,960
conversations at this present juncture

1762
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,520
but I don't know whether we buy garbage

1763
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:32,560
cans which was one of the

1764
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,080
recommendations from this tutorial with

1765
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,639
bar funds we don't have funds if we are

1766
01:57:36,639 --> 01:57:38,880
not going to agree on a bag limit if we

1767
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,000
are not going to agree on a

1768
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,400
standard for devices

1769
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,880
we have to do something but if nothing

1770
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,560
more than to limit the workers comp

1771
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,480
claims which I imagine in part are are

1772
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,000
due to the fact that this is unregulated

1773
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,400
Again, this is not anything that's going

1774
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,880
to solve the $6 million gap, but it's

1775
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,880
going to lower that uh the threshold of

1776
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:05,199
getting larger in ways that pass.

1777
01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:07,280
Um, I know we talk about contracts, we

1778
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,320
need to look at u best and worst case

1779
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,400
offers. Every city I've looked at, there

1780
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,000
have been positive returns from putting

1781
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,920
out like garbage cans. I know the term

1782
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,920
investment right now is not something

1783
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,040
that is being seen

1784
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,920
well, but regardless, we sincerely have

1785
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,480
to identify a better path forward. And

1786
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,080
the plans are just one of justifications

1787
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,679
of why we need to figure this out sooner

1788
01:58:31,679 --> 01:58:38,790
than later.

1789
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:41,760
Uh the next one, updating codes. I did a

1790
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,000
brief list. I I referenced the state's

1791
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,639
website. um

1792
01:58:46,639 --> 01:58:48,639
different schools of thought just

1793
01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:50,560
evaluating just how we can improve

1794
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,679
things moving forward. Um we have to

1795
01:58:53,679 --> 01:58:57,760
incentivize people getting permits um

1796
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,280
otherwise they're not going to or

1797
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:00,159
they're just going to wait for the

1798
01:59:00,159 --> 01:59:01,280
nights or they're going to wait for

1799
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,960
weekends. That is not something that is

1800
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:07,280
a a secret that is apparent um and not

1801
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,040
the fact that we only have five home

1802
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,400
officers. So, uh,

1803
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,360
the list of approvement providers, um,

1804
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,840
it looked like it was just updated for

1805
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,360
electricians and it seemed like it's

1806
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,760
pretty outdated. Um, I think as a city

1807
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,239
we can have a good list and a bad list.

1808
01:59:24,239 --> 01:59:27,920
Um, uh, just these are individuals that

1809
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,920
uphold the standards of our work. These

1810
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,199
are the ones that we think we should

1811
01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:33,840
value because they meet the the

1812
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,080
considerations from our codes

1813
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,400
department. Um and they should be thrown

1814
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,679
at a higher pedestal. Um but also there

1815
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:44,960
is an opportunity to let everything work

1816
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,960
assignments

1817
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,480
driving around at night or driving

1818
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,599
around on the weekends more. I know um

1819
01:59:51,599 --> 01:59:53,920
highlighted that that is done. I think

1820
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,080
there's improved room for generating

1821
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,760
growth on those driving lines um if not

1822
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:03,119
just to hold compliance to a standard

1823
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:05,360
because it is zero for weekends and that

1824
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,440
is scary.

1825
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,360
Um

1826
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,360
and part of the concern the conversation

1827
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,960
we had earlier was uh talking about um

1828
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,639
prejudices.

1829
02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:19,119
If we are not proactively

1830
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:21,440
uh identifying households that are not

1831
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,760
providing permits,

1832
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:25,199
then the only people that are getting

1833
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:26,480
responded to are the ones that are

1834
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:30,080
getting calls for complaints,

1835
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,880
which by standard could be very uh

1836
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,679
disproportionate to impact one community

1837
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:37,760
or the other.

1838
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,119
I think part of point of wanting to look

1839
02:00:41,119 --> 02:00:43,280
at the terms, not talk about executive

1840
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,599
session conversations. I think that's a

1841
02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:48,639
way we can ensure there's no bias. We

1842
02:00:48,639 --> 02:00:50,159
treat every neighborhood fairly because

1843
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:51,920
we spend equal time in each

1844
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,800
neighborhood.

1845
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:56,800
Um

1846
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:58,880
I talked a lot about the NEO positions

1847
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,040
reflecting their department assignments

1848
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,880
and then just the job evaluation was

1849
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:04,960
just understanding

1850
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:09,520
not how do we lower your um compensation

1851
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,199
but how do we streamline the task and

1852
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:12,560
responsibilities expected for your

1853
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,960
position. And we were just talking about

1854
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,199
the secio a lot. When you have an

1855
02:01:17,199 --> 02:01:18,480
individual that's been here for that

1856
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,360
long um leave naturally they have a lot

1857
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,840
of hats but then on their exit out who

1858
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,440
wears those hats

1859
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:28,000
>> and then now that those hats are being

1860
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:29,520
designated to other people how do you

1861
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:30,880
compensate them for wearing those hats

1862
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:32,159
and then it's that circular

1863
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:35,990
conversation.

1864
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,719
to to add to that I mean we have been on

1865
02:01:38,719 --> 02:01:42,880
this country for a very long time to

1866
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,960
kind of remind everyone we have been

1867
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:48,159
talking about succession plan as long as

1868
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:51,119
we have been on this counsel myself each

1869
02:01:51,119 --> 02:01:54,560
department and we have every time

1870
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:59,440
the department sick to keep asking

1871
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,360
and um you know it's something that we

1872
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,239
encourage in all department to have that

1873
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:06,560
training had somebody ready to take

1874
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,400
over.

1875
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:09,920
But um it's not going to happen all the

1876
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,679
time. You know, sometimes, you know, you

1877
02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:19,589
just hope hope for the best.

1878
02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:21,760
What I ask you to do, if you don't mind,

1879
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,199
uh to go back to the sheet, can you

1880
02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:25,679
attach the dollar amount just for

1881
02:02:25,679 --> 02:02:28,960
reference sake and

1882
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:41,030
have it for us?

1883
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,800
And you you have some uh you can

1884
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,480
continue to bottom on the sheet if you

1885
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,480
don't mind.

1886
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:51,280
>> Uh I think 16 was uh

1887
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,920
being giving the signal.

1888
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,159
>> It is it's utilities administration fee

1889
02:02:56,159 --> 02:03:00,400
for services to add that $500 back.

1890
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:03,119
the two NEO positions. Uh the

1891
02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:06,880
conversations that I've had with uh Mr.

1892
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:09,840
Anderson and also the emails he sent in

1893
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,960
to us wanted to ensure that that um

1894
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:15,760
position line supports the training

1895
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:18,880
program we put in place that is on where

1896
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,960
we continue to train individuals for

1897
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,360
positions that don't exist really train

1898
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,119
people to leave the city which I think

1899
02:03:25,119 --> 02:03:26,719
is counterproductive. so we can make the

1900
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:29,040
acquisitions available or move the

1901
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:30,560
program and start trying to train people

1902
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,320
out of the city.

1903
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,000
>> Um

1904
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,840
the $150,000

1905
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,280
there was one individual that came and

1906
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:38,800
spoke at city council and just talked

1907
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,520
about preventative measures the city

1908
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,760
need to take but also as Mr. Farley

1909
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,920
always highlights this is an investment

1910
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,400
into our community and to our youth. Uh

1911
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:55,440
so I don't want to see a uh partial increase in the golf fees but

1912
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:56,960
then also seeing the city to take a

1913
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,199
stronger position. He was Mr. Carl was

1914
02:03:59,199 --> 02:04:00,560
talks about intentionality. I think the

1915
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,800
city needs to intentionally put in place

1916
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,280
for them to fund this position and I

1917
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,040
think we can put that burden onto CBG

1918
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:12,960
CDBG funds uh which organizations we

1919
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,199
have to find that within the state are

1920
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:17,520
youth matter and according to the

1921
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,159
proposed budget they don't that's not

1922
02:04:20,159 --> 02:04:24,639
available all the youth wants removed

1923
02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:29,360
um replacing the uh seasonal labor order

1924
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:31,840
physicians an A8161

1925
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,430
100.

1926
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,199
One of the questions I had was what is

1927
02:04:37,199 --> 02:04:40,960
their um hourly wage? It was told to us

1928
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:45,360
that it was uh $1,750 plus $2 when

1929
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,599
they're any waste when in all reality

1930
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:55,119
it's $1,550 plus 2 hours and I know that is a contracted wage.

1931
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:58,560
you are not paying me seven hours to do

1932
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,480
that work expectation and waste and the

1933
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:01,840
fact that we have people that are doing

1934
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:08,000
it is a testament to their desire and and confidence in doing that work

1935
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:09,679
which often people turn their nose up

1936
02:05:09,679 --> 02:05:12,560
that shocking shocking if we're talking

1937
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,639
about education these are some of the

1938
02:05:14,639 --> 02:05:16,480
positions that are most underfunded in

1939
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,599
our city and those contract and do that

1940
02:05:19,599 --> 02:05:21,280
with a smile and to the best of their

1941
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:22,560
abilities and people are turning their

1942
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:24,080
nose back then you need to be ashamed of

1943
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:26,880
yourself if you're doing that right now.

1944
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:31,119
So part of the conversation was

1945
02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:32,560
taking half of the a lotment for the

1946
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,800
seasonal labor loader positions and I

1947
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,560
don't know bring in two full-time staff

1948
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,320
members where your wage is a little more

1949
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:40,320
livable especially after we to expect

1950
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:42,480
them to eat this tax savings. I do not

1951
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:44,239
think that is something that is a

1952
02:05:44,239 --> 02:05:46,639
difficult ask.

1953
02:05:46,639 --> 02:05:50,480
And I think the last item, the A8686 was

1954
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:52,080
just another recommendation from the

1955
02:05:52,080 --> 02:06:16,310
department head of I miss my toys.

1956
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,639
So this was

1957
02:06:18,639 --> 02:06:22,400
put in half seasonal lab motor

1958
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:26,159
>> that probably just happened and convert

1959
02:06:26,159 --> 02:06:28,719
I don't know if it does it cleanly but

1960
02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:32,159
we with benefits it could roughly equate

1961
02:06:32,159 --> 02:06:37,109
to half

1962
02:06:37,119 --> 02:06:44,390
» I'm not looking Any

1963
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:55,510
other questions?

1964
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:59,440
I I have some question regarding the

1965
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:24,870
gosp

1966
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,159
page

1967
02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:36,390
>> revenue.

1968
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,880
» Just a clarification on the allowance

1969
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:42,800
for uncollected tax.

1970
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,709
Which line?

1971
02:07:46,719 --> 02:07:47,920
» Oh, I see it.

1972
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:52,709
>> 0

1973
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:56,239
question and if we we're proposing an

1974
02:07:56,239 --> 02:07:58,639
increase in

1975
02:07:58,639 --> 02:08:00,480
real property tax collection and should

1976
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:02,960
we anticipate lowering the uncollected

1977
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,599
taxes or is there a reason why we have

1978
02:08:05,599 --> 02:08:09,280
it the same as budgeted last year? Um

1979
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:12,960
well based off your dates um feel

1980
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:18,950
comfortable it's a certain number

1981
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,079
of last year.

1982
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:22,480
>> Yeah but we anticipating of you know

1983
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,560
collecting

1984
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:26,639
higher number from this year until next

1985
02:08:26,639 --> 02:08:29,679
year. So I'm thinking that maybe

1986
02:08:29,679 --> 02:08:31,119
something that we would consider

1987
02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:33,440
lowering that number

1988
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:36,800
because our exposure is not that

1989
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:38,159
high.

1990
02:08:38,159 --> 02:08:39,360
on this.

1991
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:40,800
>> Well, there's two ways to look at it. If

1992
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,760
you

1993
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:46,639
raise taxes and the number stays the

1994
02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:49,840
same percentage wise, we would increase

1995
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:54,639
it. It's looking if we're going to do

1996
02:08:54,639 --> 02:08:56,320
more

1997
02:08:56,320 --> 02:09:00,390
collection.

1998
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,280
Derek's done the analysis, which I'm

1999
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:05,119
comfortable with putting out there,

2000
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:08,480
doing the foreclosures, other things.

2001
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:12,320
values for properties are it's an area

2002
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,599
how do we get people to

2003
02:09:15,599 --> 02:09:17,360
pay the taxes

2004
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,199
>> well we have seen a trend I mean people

2005
02:09:19,199 --> 02:09:21,119
are paying taxes that's why we exceed

2006
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:23,599
our

2007
02:09:23,599 --> 02:09:27,360
uh estimates over the last two years we

2008
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,520
exceed our

2009
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,440
estimates

2010
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:33,679
property tax collection

2011
02:09:33,679 --> 02:09:36,000
>> two years ago I think we did last year

2012
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:41,030
was closer drive the estimate.

2013
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:42,719
» So the trend is because people buying

2014
02:09:42,719 --> 02:09:44,239
houses, the the property values

2015
02:09:44,239 --> 02:09:47,040
increasing, taxes are on paper paying

2016
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:48,719
and we're selling these houses as fast

2017
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:50,320
as we can, putting them back on the tax

2018
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:54,320
rules. So I'm still looking at that

2019
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,229
$2.8 million

2020
02:09:58,239 --> 02:10:01,199
for something for us to consider. Yeah,

2021
02:10:01,199 --> 02:10:06,069
because uh you know

2022
02:10:06,079 --> 02:10:08,400
» raising it.

2023
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:12,000
>> No, dropping it

2024
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,679
as we collect more taxes the or should

2025
02:10:15,679 --> 02:10:16,560
go down.

2026
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,199
>> But uh we it's something for us. So that

2027
02:10:19,199 --> 02:10:21,119
only

2028
02:10:21,119 --> 02:10:22,880
>> the next one I wanted to talk about is

2029
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:27,280
the Canada's um excite tax. Mhm.

2030
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:32,400
>> Do we know how many um stores we have?

2031
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:33,199
>> Seven.

2032
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:34,560
>> We may know.

2033
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:35,920
>> I know.

2034
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,560
>> Seven.

2035
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:41,679
>> We found them on the state website's

2036
02:10:41,679 --> 02:10:48,310
nine, but two of them central

2037
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:50,639
» seven. So when we when we started we

2038
02:10:50,639 --> 02:10:54,639
started with one store in sky and we

2039
02:10:54,639 --> 02:10:58,239
see our tax collection was but it was

2040
02:10:58,239 --> 02:11:00,639
the first store in the region. So

2041
02:11:00,639 --> 02:11:03,119
Minneapolis now

2042
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:06,400
pretty much every municipality has it.

2043
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,960
So I mean with seven seven store in

2044
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,000
Skynct or five store in Skenctity

2045
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,079
$700,000

2046
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:17,920
>> but the trend the revenue per store has

2047
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:19,520
dropped as opposed to what that first

2048
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:22,560
store was.

2049
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:23,920
>> Don't think we have a breakdown of what

2050
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,239
the revenue was

2051
02:11:26,239 --> 02:11:31,109
added right there.

2052
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:34,960
» And do we get those quarterly quarterly?

2053
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:42,790
Uh so the gun

2054
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,040
sometimes

2055
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,149
replay

2056
02:11:48,159 --> 02:11:51,440
asking for the report.

2057
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,599
>> Did somebody ask for a report on this

2058
02:11:53,599 --> 02:11:54,079
fine?

2059
02:11:54,079 --> 02:11:56,480
>> I was asking Well, we're going to find

2060
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:59,440
the

2061
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:02,159
>> I have it if you want it.

2062
02:12:02,159 --> 02:12:10,629
gave us. It's uh it was $32,477

2063
02:12:10,639 --> 02:12:14,629
» 302477.38.

2064
02:12:14,639 --> 02:12:17,360
Um which means that that at this year to

2065
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:20,000
date it was 35.6%.

2066
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:21,280
>> That's half a year.

2067
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,199
>> Yeah. What's the date of your report?

2068
02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:33,440
This is October 9th.

2069
02:12:33,450 --> 02:12:35,840
[Music]

2070
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,760
But

2071
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,320
if you double that,

2072
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,840
>> okay, then we'd be then we'd be okay.

2073
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:47,119
>> Well, we'd be okay. So, I know that we

2074
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:49,040
have seven stores currently, but at what

2075
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:51,679
point in 2025 will those stores open?

2076
02:12:51,679 --> 02:12:54,400
That becomes question two because if

2077
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,840
they we didn't start 2025 and I don't

2078
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,239
think we did that means that there's

2079
02:13:00,239 --> 02:13:02,960
going to be more revenue because then in

2080
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:06,560
2026 we'll have a full year

2081
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:08,159
and the one at the harbor I'm sure I

2082
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:10,719
know didn't know wasn't open in January

2083
02:13:10,719 --> 02:13:12,719
um crank kids you know they come through

2084
02:13:12,719 --> 02:13:15,679
the cliff office taking this so the one

2085
02:13:15,679 --> 02:13:19,199
on crank I don't open in January so if

2086
02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:21,199
we're calculating

2087
02:13:21,199 --> 02:13:22,880
calculate when the store's open, how

2088
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:24,560
much we have. But if we're going in for

2089
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,320
a full year next year, we should be

2090
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:33,430
looking at that.

2091
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:34,400
» I just think that different

2092
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:38,159
municipalities in um just brought sales

2093
02:13:38,159 --> 02:13:40,320
away from

2094
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,159
it may have, but we know what we have

2095
02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:44,079
here. So, we can look at what we have.

2096
02:13:44,079 --> 02:13:46,639
So, I'm not not the ones that open.

2097
02:13:46,639 --> 02:13:48,400
There may be something but we know that

2098
02:13:48,400 --> 02:14:00,149
there are seven right now that open

2099
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:04,000
the next one I have franchises I mean I

2100
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,560
see $8,000.

2101
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,599
Is there a reason why we dropping that

2102
02:14:09,599 --> 02:14:11,440
money?

2103
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:20,069
It's something about technology

2104
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:25,669
spectrum.

2105
02:14:25,679 --> 02:14:28,159
That's the uh I believe

2106
02:14:28,159 --> 02:14:34,470
>> the I'm sorry the what

2107
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,239
» I guess

2108
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:44,079
35,000 50,000 what's the whole franchise agreement the higher

2109
02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:45,679
level

2110
02:14:45,679 --> 02:14:48,560
you know some of it is people are giving

2111
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:52,629
away

2112
02:14:52,639 --> 02:14:55,119
» stream

2113
02:14:55,119 --> 02:14:58,079
M

2114
02:14:58,079 --> 02:15:01,440
>> a lot of that revenue was based on

2115
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:03,920
cable

2116
02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:18,950
>> and not internet.

2117
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:25,669
» Okay.

2118
02:15:25,679 --> 02:15:27,679
The the next question I have on revenue

2119
02:15:27,679 --> 02:15:31,920
is delinquent on parking fee.

2120
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:35,119
I know last year we had discussion with

2121
02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:37,199
the police department and raising this

2122
02:15:37,199 --> 02:15:40,880
fee and then we also touch on those

2123
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:43,599
outstanding building department tickets

2124
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:46,800
that we hire outside um collection

2125
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:48,320
agency

2126
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:49,920
additional discussion with police

2127
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:54,800
department. Yeah, I um

2128
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:56,639
I'm a little concerned that this is only

2129
02:15:56,639 --> 02:15:59,920
$170,000 budget dividend for 2026. I

2130
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:01,119
thought we were going to be more

2131
02:16:01,119 --> 02:16:03,360
aggressive towards

2132
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:06,079
here like a couple million dollars that

2133
02:16:06,079 --> 02:16:07,760
they were going to do after I know we're

2134
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,119
not going to get a long but you know try

2135
02:16:11,119 --> 02:16:15,280
to push as far as we can

2136
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,679
parking tickets.

2137
02:16:17,679 --> 02:16:18,400
Which line is

2138
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:21,119
>> this is a A2610

2139
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:24,159
M delend parking fine. Those were like

2140
02:16:24,159 --> 02:16:25,920
the old

2141
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:28,480
8 million $10 million that people don't

2142
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:30,719
exist anymore. They were like some newer

2143
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:32,800
ones that they could say you know we can

2144
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:35,840
take a chance to go China mail ticket

2145
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:39,280
and say been hit by

2146
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:41,359
>> doing those

2147
02:16:41,359 --> 02:16:45,599
I had not seen the most recent revenue

2148
02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:50,629
>> year to date. I think it's like 120

2149
02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:52,319
» 26.

2150
02:16:52,319 --> 02:16:56,080
Well, I have to add all these different

2151
02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:59,920
there's 26 10 a

2152
02:16:59,920 --> 02:17:03,190
M.

2153
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:06,319
» Some of them like one of them

2154
02:17:06,319 --> 02:17:10,639
is pretty close to reaching it,

2155
02:17:10,639 --> 02:17:19,429
you know, full year.

2156
02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:21,599
Yeah, actually a couple of them are

2157
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:23,760
>> Yeah, the recovery effort um year to

2158
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:27,359
date is 122

2159
02:17:27,359 --> 02:17:31,509
>> 122,57.25

2160
02:17:31,519 --> 02:17:40,709
um

2161
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:42,479
do we need to revisit this effort and

2162
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:44,479
see what's

2163
02:17:44,479 --> 02:17:48,399
Maybe it could be help.

2164
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:50,960
What can we do?

2165
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:53,439
Is the agency that this this recovery

2166
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:56,080
agency is not

2167
02:17:56,080 --> 02:17:58,000
living up to their expectation? Do we

2168
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:02,600
need to move on to someone else?

2169
02:18:02,610 --> 02:18:04,800
[Music]

2170
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:06,639
>> Yeah. When we were talking last year

2171
02:18:06,639 --> 02:18:08,639
about fee, increasing the fee, it was

2172
02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:19,750
one of the the big ticket item

2173
02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:23,359
on a little disappointed.

2174
02:18:23,359 --> 02:18:25,840
Maybe we need to ramp up the effort with

2175
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:30,000
these billing and quite effective.

2176
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:48,309
I mean we've been discuss

2177
02:18:48,319 --> 02:18:50,080
the the next item I have a question with

2178
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,800
revenue speed sign and um this is the

2179
02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:55,679
camera on the

2180
02:18:55,679 --> 02:19:00,319
budgeting $23 million um I think actual

2181
02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:06,790
what is our actual police here?

2182
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:08,559
» I think there's activity going on the

2183
02:19:08,559 --> 02:19:12,070
cameras

2184
02:19:12,080 --> 02:19:14,240
here and there's the bus patrols.

2185
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:16,719
>> Yes. So the speed cameras

2186
02:19:16,719 --> 02:19:18,000
>> on the buses

2187
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:20,240
>> they revenue that's coming in.

2188
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:22,719
>> That's the bus patrol safety fines.

2189
02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:23,760
>> What is that?

2190
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:25,599
>> Bus patrol patrol safety

2191
02:19:25,599 --> 02:19:29,840
>> 26N which was banned. It's it's it's

2192
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:38,309
year to date um 243 47.

2193
02:19:38,319 --> 02:19:39,200
» So we're at 40.

2194
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:41,920
>> Yeah. Sorry.

2195
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:44,000
>> We're dropping by I mean estimated

2196
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:47,120
200,000 miles. So we're thinking that

2197
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:49,280
based on trend is going to is going to

2198
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:50,399
lower.

2199
02:19:50,399 --> 02:19:53,120
>> All right.

2200
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:54,640
>> That's what's happen when you do the

2201
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:56,479
enforcement.

2202
02:19:56,479 --> 02:19:57,280
blacks.

2203
02:19:57,280 --> 02:19:59,120
>> That's what I think it is too.

2204
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:00,720
>> That's what I wrote as my note that it

2205
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:01,920
probably was about increased

2206
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,880
enforcement.

2207
02:20:04,880 --> 02:20:07,280
>> One would hope.

2208
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:10,560
>> My next question on revenue is the um

2209
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:12,720
sale of houses.

2210
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:17,040
>> Let's say we budget 4.5. We're budgeting

2211
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,560
563 million.

2212
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:22,319
>> Yeah.

2213
02:20:22,319 --> 02:20:24,080
don't think we can do better in that in

2214
02:20:24,080 --> 02:20:26,240
terms of ramping up sales and achieving

2215
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:27,520
a higher number of

2216
02:20:27,520 --> 02:20:28,960
>> assuming more people are going to pay

2217
02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:30,479
their taxes. So, we're going to be doing

2218
02:20:30,479 --> 02:20:31,439
less foreclosure.

2219
02:20:31,439 --> 02:20:32,560
>> Well, we do have we're going to have

2220
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:33,680
some foreclosures.

2221
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:35,280
>> There's

2222
02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:36,880
>> but the ability to make money on the

2223
02:20:36,880 --> 02:20:39,200
foreclosures is less because that

2224
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:42,080
federal court case and the change in

2225
02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:44,080
state law.

2226
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:47,680
Uh the other component where I budgeted

2227
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:52,080
last year were some of those big ticket

2228
02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:54,319
items that are still out there floating

2229
02:20:54,319 --> 02:20:57,280
that we're hoping to close still this

2230
02:20:57,280 --> 02:21:00,800
year. It's going to be 40

2231
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:07,270
property sale.

2232
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:09,200
But if you don't close those sales in

2233
02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:12,160
2025, we're making a little bit 26. We

2234
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:14,080
anticipate that it doesn't happen in

2235
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,920
2025 and budget those those high tickets

2236
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:20,479
on

2237
02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:24,479
>> kind of like discussion of revenue

2238
02:21:24,479 --> 02:21:26,000
40

2239
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:28,479
subject to some litigation.

2240
02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:30,399
I

2241
02:21:30,399 --> 02:21:32,319
feel more confident that that will get

2242
02:21:32,319 --> 02:21:36,800
budgeted in the 25 numbers. That other

2243
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:41,040
property Roderdam has lifted their

2244
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:45,600
uh moratorium on solar deployments.

2245
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:47,120
That's what was going to go in there.

2246
02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:47,840
Mhm.

2247
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:50,000
>> And uh

2248
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:52,960
the and the company had the purchase

2249
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:55,600
offer on I think it's been

2250
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:57,680
uh less than aggressive in terms of

2251
02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:59,920
closing. I don't know if you've heard

2252
02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:02,479
anything recently on it.

2253
02:22:02,479 --> 02:22:10,720
>> Well, not recently, but we talked about it um

2254
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:12,800
a while ago

2255
02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:14,479
with it. Do you want me to reach out to

2256
02:22:14,479 --> 02:22:18,160
them? Well, there was the moratorum was

2257
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:19,520
still in place, right?

2258
02:22:19,520 --> 02:22:21,840
>> And they lifted the moratorum. They

2259
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:25,040
still have a permanent process now that

2260
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:28,160
is more restrictive.

2261
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:29,760
So yeah, we haven't reached out. We

2262
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:31,920
should reach out to see if they're

2263
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,520
interested or see if there's some other

2264
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:37,200
option for that track.

2265
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:39,680
>> Yeah, this potential revenue that we can

2266
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:42,399
estimate until 2026

2267
02:22:42,399 --> 02:22:47,600
uh help us with this budget. That's a major concern for me because

2268
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:49,520
yesterday I'm going to have the plan

2269
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:52,000
foreclosure but I think it's big enough

2270
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:54,240
but you know getting ready and turning

2271
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:57,359
them over and expand our tax base at the

2272
02:22:57,359 --> 02:22:59,920
same time selling them and uh making

2273
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:02,640
some money

2274
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:04,960
any questions

2275
02:23:04,960 --> 02:23:08,720
>> I just want to say I wouldn't like over

2276
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:11,840
extend the amount that uh you imagine

2277
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:14,319
will come in through foreclosures

2278
02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:17,840
like at one point during my time had

2279
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:19,840
three foreclosures running at the same

2280
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:24,160
time. Um some of that was because uh

2281
02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:26,960
things were stalled during co

2282
02:23:26,960 --> 02:23:29,439
uh and so then one of them was still

2283
02:23:29,439 --> 02:23:32,560
going the city couldn't couldn't

2284
02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:34,399
foreclose on them at the time and so

2285
02:23:34,399 --> 02:23:36,720
time passed as well while they weren't

2286
02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,720
foreclosed on and so there's a lot more

2287
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:40,800
taxes and interest due on some of those

2288
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,840
properties that had just sat for a while

2289
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:47,120
because of the moratorum during co so

2290
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:48,720
that's not going to be the case going

2291
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:50,479
forward we're going

2292
02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:54,960
like we just keep running each year and

2293
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:57,760
um all that cleanup work um some of it

2294
02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:03,120
was started prior to mine uh corporation council's

2295
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,359
office it's just not going to exist

2296
02:24:05,359 --> 02:24:08,240
anymore the amount if anything will

2297
02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:11,439
probably you know like mayor said it may

2298
02:24:11,439 --> 02:24:13,760
actually down from last year I guess the

2299
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:15,520
number

2300
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:18,960
>> so presently in the court you have a set

2301
02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:20,880
Do you have it set up for closure in the

2302
02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:22,479
court system?

2303
02:24:22,479 --> 02:24:26,800
>> Right now we have one pending and then

2304
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,439
one that's we're probably going to be

2305
02:24:29,439 --> 02:24:31,040
done with pretty soon.

2306
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:33,359
>> What do you mean the whole court

2307
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:34,160
judgement?

2308
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:35,520
>> Yeah, we did the default judgment

2309
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:36,960
already. So we just have to file the

2310
02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:38,800
motion for summary judgement and that

2311
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:40,880
will be for the rest of the properties

2312
02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:42,960
in that particular foreclosure. So then

2313
02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:47,200
we have another one that we started um

2314
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:49,359
recently or earlier this year we filed

2315
02:24:49,359 --> 02:24:51,680
the list. So we've been waiting for

2316
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:54,080
title reports that's just about done. So

2317
02:24:54,080 --> 02:24:55,200
then we're going to we're going to start

2318
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:57,920
with the redemption periods and

2319
02:24:57,920 --> 02:25:01,200
eventually we go we go for the judgments

2320
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,479
but the amount due because there's not

2321
02:25:04,479 --> 02:25:06,720
that cleanup anymore properties that

2322
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:10,160
were lingering through co isn't going to

2323
02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,479
be as much because it'll just be a few

2324
02:25:12,479 --> 02:25:14,160
years back instead of some of those

2325
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:19,990
properties you know five six years it go

2326
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:21,359
another time you know like when is your

2327
02:25:21,359 --> 02:25:23,520
next uh

2328
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:27,520
Um so at this point we are going to

2329
02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:30,479
probably in the next month or so we will

2330
02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:33,600
uh we'll file we'll send out the uh

2331
02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:35,680
commencements the notice of commencement

2332
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:38,479
that begin you start with the list you

2333
02:25:38,479 --> 02:25:40,479
do title reports and then you send out

2334
02:25:40,479 --> 02:25:43,120
the notice of commencement that sets the

2335
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:46,399
period for redemption. So that'll be you

2336
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:48,080
have to give 6 months by law you still

2337
02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:49,439
leave me 3 months so that's also

2338
02:25:49,439 --> 02:25:52,560
extending the time. So now they now the

2339
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:55,359
uh people will get 6 months and then

2340
02:25:55,359 --> 02:25:57,600
from there we would then anyone who

2341
02:25:57,600 --> 02:25:59,200
hasn't paying and a lot of people are

2342
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:03,439
paying right now um because values have

2343
02:26:03,439 --> 02:26:06,160
gone up most likely uh that I assume

2344
02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:07,840
that's why a lot of people are paying in

2345
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:10,080
the redemption period which wasn't the

2346
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,560
case to my understanding in the past.

2347
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:14,000
There'll be so much equity you'll lose

2348
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,680
if they don't want to lose it. And then

2349
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:17,359
you see all these people trying to

2350
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:21,120
remain late because the the equity but

2351
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:23,040
in the end

2352
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:25,600
the revenue is going to be what it was

2353
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,280
probably.

2354
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:32,640
>> So I'm looking at the estimator here not picking you on anything but uh one

2355
02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:35,760
two three we talk about one through the

2356
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:38,560
court another one is filing anticipating

2357
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:40,399
another one. Do you think that we can

2358
02:26:40,399 --> 02:26:42,720
achieve all three of that foreclosure by

2359
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:44,080
the end of next year?

2360
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:46,560
>> So, right now there's two. They're worth

2361
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:48,880
it. At one point it is going. Now there

2362
02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:52,240
was two, but though one of them we're

2363
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:53,840
going to wrap up the motion might just

2364
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:56,560
have to review it. That one we already

2365
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:58,240
did the default. So we just have to make

2366
02:26:58,240 --> 02:26:59,600
the summary judgement. There's like six

2367
02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:00,960
or seven properties, not a lot of

2368
02:27:00,960 --> 02:27:03,439
properties that that's it for that one.

2369
02:27:03,439 --> 02:27:05,040
So then we just have the one that's

2370
02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:06,960
coming up. We we're only going to have

2371
02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:09,920
one at this point. Mhm.

2372
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:10,880
>> Does that answer your question?

2373
02:27:10,880 --> 02:27:12,160
>> One one set

2374
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:14,240
>> one foreclosure.

2375
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:17,040
>> It has to be on the list unless you do

2376
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:19,600
>> um but certainly

2377
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:21,840
you you have you can you have to

2378
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:23,600
forclose at certain time periods. So

2379
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:25,840
that's why multiple especi multiple

2380
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:27,600
going especially because of time

2381
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,080
constraints because of I inherited one

2382
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:32,880
and then others it just took time.

2383
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:34,240
>> So are we still waiting on three years

2384
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:37,120
or are we the two years starting?

2385
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:40,399
Um, it's in the city code. I I think

2386
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:43,520
it's either I think it's three years,

2387
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:44,880
>> you know, Derek. I think it's three

2388
02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:45,359
years.

2389
02:27:45,359 --> 02:27:46,800
>> Residential is different than

2390
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:47,200
commercial.

2391
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:48,960
>> Yeah, residential is three. Commercial

2392
02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:49,920
is two.

2393
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:50,319
>> Yes.

2394
02:27:50,319 --> 02:27:54,319
>> Um, and anything that's at the time

2395
02:27:54,319 --> 02:27:57,840
that's ready soal ready for, you know,

2396
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:01,600
we include on the list.

2397
02:28:01,600 --> 02:28:05,359
>> No, I'm trying to guess like

2398
02:28:05,359 --> 02:28:06,880
an exact number. We don't

2399
02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:09,120
>> I'm going to say okay one to two in the

2400
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:10,960
courts another one is filing we can

2401
02:28:10,960 --> 02:28:14,560
achieve all of that until 202

2402
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:16,399
one of them wrapped up the second one is

2403
02:28:16,399 --> 02:28:17,760
almost wrapped up

2404
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:19,600
>> and then the third one is basically at

2405
02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:20,880
the beginning

2406
02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:24,319
>> so all all those foreclosure will be

2407
02:28:24,319 --> 02:28:28,240
into 20 potential 2026 sales

2408
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:32,950
>> yes

2409
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:34,640
» I'm asking my question because I'm

2410
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:37,600
looking at that that estim

2411
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:40,560
some of those likely in the 27.

2412
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:43,840
>> Yeah, that's true.

2413
02:28:43,840 --> 02:28:45,439
>> All right, that's something for us to u

2414
02:28:45,439 --> 02:28:48,560
to look at and to

2415
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:51,840
I'm highlighting those kind of stuff um

2416
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:53,680
that we can we can talk about in terms

2417
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:56,240
of revenue.

2418
02:28:56,240 --> 02:28:59,120
The other um the one I have is on the

2419
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,760
mortgage tax and the reason why I flag

2420
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:05,120
on that property value which is going up

2421
02:29:05,120 --> 02:29:07,760
mortgage is going to be higher.

2422
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:09,439
It's not like before we sell out to

2423
02:29:09,439 --> 02:29:12,720
$50,000 and we're going to get $500

2424
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:13,920
mortgage back.

2425
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:17,359
>> The numbers are pretty much high now. So

2426
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:19,920
based on that trend I'm looking at I

2427
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:21,920
think we can reconsider that number

2428
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:24,000
based on the house

2429
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:28,240
>> sale that is on page 12 second line

2430
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:30,160
83005

2431
02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:32,960
mortgage tax it is something a friend

2432
02:29:32,960 --> 02:29:35,760
across and screen is fortunate with the

2433
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:38,880
house for sale

2434
02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:41,359
and people buying and buying at a higher

2435
02:29:41,359 --> 02:29:43,600
and you know competitive price of a

2436
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:47,040
building driving up the taxes says the

2437
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:55,110
mortgage facts

2438
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:57,200
» and a trend in interest rates going to

2439
02:29:57,200 --> 02:30:00,319
continue down in the near future.

2440
02:30:00,319 --> 02:30:02,640
>> Near future.

2441
02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:05,670
>> So

2442
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:06,960
I don't know if it's going to drop

2443
02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:08,080
enough so you're going to see

2444
02:30:08,080 --> 02:30:09,760
refinancing

2445
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:13,120
but you will see some revenue for that.

2446
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:15,600
>> Yes. So if you want to review it, we're

2447
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:16,240
more than that.

2448
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:17,920
>> Yeah, I can say because I was looking at

2449
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:20,000
the trend in terms of the salivity. I

2450
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:22,160
looked at the the report coming in a lot

2451
02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:26,399
of a lot of houses are being 300,000ish

2452
02:30:26,399 --> 02:30:28,800
>> more than that. So with that particular

2453
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:31,280
mortgage obviously the mortgage tax is

2454
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:32,720
going up.

2455
02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:35,359
>> Yeah. So something that beneficial to

2456
02:30:35,359 --> 02:30:39,120
us. So that's a line making um frequency

2457
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:42,800
that I think that I'm already

2458
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:45,920
and that's it. That's what I have for

2459
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:48,880
revenue. I mean anybody else have um go

2460
02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:51,600
ahead please question revenue. Um do we

2461
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:53,680
increase our total search charge like

2462
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:56,160
the fees for people that we do that

2463
02:30:56,160 --> 02:31:00,960
>> what line? Um A1789

2464
02:31:00,960 --> 02:31:06,790
page 9.

2465
02:31:06,800 --> 02:31:08,000
» Well, yeah, right now I'm just looking

2466
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:14,469
at the sign

2467
02:31:14,479 --> 02:31:18,479
contract agreements and renegotiating.

2468
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:21,200
>> Okay. That based on the contract, not

2469
02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:27,030
based on what it cost.

2470
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:28,720
So, so the circuit is going to be fast

2471
02:31:28,720 --> 02:31:30,640
for long. Is that

2472
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:32,960
>> Well, yeah. I'm just It's doubling.

2473
02:31:32,960 --> 02:31:34,319
>> It's It's doubling. That's pretty

2474
02:31:34,319 --> 02:31:37,680
significant. Um,

2475
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:39,680
and I was just wondering why that is.

2476
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:41,359
You're saying that we're renegotiating

2477
02:31:41,359 --> 02:31:44,640
to contract right now.

2478
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:46,720
>> Not right now. That's what the police

2479
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:52,710
department is looking to do future

2480
02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:57,030
» in the future. 26

2481
02:31:57,040 --> 02:31:59,520
When would that happen in 26? Because I

2482
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:02,479
mean it's a double bid when contract

2483
02:32:02,479 --> 02:32:04,560
negotiated.

2484
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,479
Do you know when that negotiation

2485
02:32:06,479 --> 02:32:07,040
happened?

2486
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:08,960
>> I don't know that timeline.

2487
02:32:08,960 --> 02:32:11,120
>> Could you give us that information?

2488
02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:14,479
>> That would be chief

2489
02:32:14,479 --> 02:32:19,359
>> chief or chief clifford to come back

2490
02:32:19,359 --> 02:32:21,439
to give you the theory behind that

2491
02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:22,640
number.

2492
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:25,040
I mean or you know I don't know if they

2493
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:26,800
could they could just shoot an email too

2494
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:31,750
if they want to not have to

2495
02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:34,479
» I'm sure they look forward to

2496
02:32:34,479 --> 02:32:37,840
any time to spend time with us

2497
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:41,990
looking for company

2498
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:43,439
would like to discuss the details of

2499
02:32:43,439 --> 02:32:46,000
contract negotiations related to the

2500
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:49,760
agreement we could go into executive

2501
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:53,670
>> okay

2502
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:57,670
Sorry.

2503
02:32:57,680 --> 02:32:59,920
» In the morning. So if you have any legal

2504
02:32:59,920 --> 02:33:02,240
questions, I can answer that.

2505
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:04,479
>> Yes.

2506
02:33:04,479 --> 02:33:05,040
>> One more.

2507
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:07,600
>> Next question I have is CDBG revenue.

2508
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:08,640
>> Me too. That was going to be my

2509
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:08,960
favorite.

2510
02:33:08,960 --> 02:33:12,319
>> How how do we get comfortable with CD CD

2511
02:33:12,319 --> 02:33:15,439
CDP revenue?

2512
02:33:15,439 --> 02:33:18,240
Does it always have to be outside of the

2513
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:22,389
budget inside

2514
02:33:22,399 --> 02:33:24,319
or unlock? It's a separate grant that

2515
02:33:24,319 --> 02:33:26,640
comes in and there's two aspects of it.

2516
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:29,200
What do we use internally for city

2517
02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:32,880
operations and what do we award to

2518
02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:35,280
community groups, other projects or

2519
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:39,110
other vendors?

2520
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:41,680
» Some of this

2521
02:33:41,680 --> 02:33:44,479
>> Yeah. Yeah. Page 10 page 10. Yes. But

2522
02:33:44,479 --> 02:33:47,840
that's all that is um

2523
02:33:47,840 --> 02:33:49,359
>> accounted for here. That's all the

2524
02:33:49,359 --> 02:33:51,439
revenue whatever the city received.

2525
02:33:51,439 --> 02:33:55,520
>> Yeah. That align with sports development

2526
02:33:55,520 --> 02:33:56,160
staff.

2527
02:33:56,160 --> 02:34:00,960
>> Yeah. SNAP finance development for

2528
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:03,520
>> revenue lines and then one is completely

2529
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:05,760
removed this year.

2530
02:34:05,760 --> 02:34:07,120
>> I think it was we had budgeted last

2531
02:34:07,120 --> 02:34:08,720
year. estimates. Sorry, estimated last

2532
02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:10,880
year was

2533
02:34:10,880 --> 02:34:14,479
some of that's new to clean out uh

2534
02:34:14,479 --> 02:34:16,800
foreclosures

2535
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:19,040
and

2536
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:21,439
the departments did not cross build it.

2537
02:34:21,439 --> 02:34:23,840
So, there's surplus in that account. So,

2538
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:24,960
we're looking for the round of

2539
02:34:24,960 --> 02:34:28,319
foreclosure to use that to

2540
02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:31,439
clean out the houses

2541
02:34:31,439 --> 02:34:32,960
and

2542
02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:36,000
Alison's going to put together

2543
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:40,240
some more contractors that would benefit

2544
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:43,120
from that.

2545
02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:46,000
>> So, the cleaning up these properties,

2546
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,359
it would be um contracted out.

2547
02:34:49,359 --> 02:34:53,120
Yeah, it's a good people.

2548
02:34:53,120 --> 02:34:54,880
They don't know our new garbage fees and

2549
02:34:54,880 --> 02:34:57,040
they don't want the stickers and they

2550
02:34:57,040 --> 02:34:59,120
leave a lot of stuff in the houses. So,

2551
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:04,950
we have to clean them out.

2552
02:35:04,960 --> 02:35:06,560
» Some days to make the house more

2553
02:35:06,560 --> 02:35:08,560
attractive. Unfortunately, under the

2554
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:11,439
rules we work under, they will sell for

2555
02:35:11,439 --> 02:35:14,640
more, but we won't necessarily reap the

2556
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:16,640
benefits of it.

2557
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:18,960
Well, and this is going back to our

2558
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:22,319
discussion over the years in terms of

2559
02:35:22,319 --> 02:35:25,760
documenting all across and that is still

2560
02:35:25,760 --> 02:35:27,840
being tracked across

2561
02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:30,399
>> police, fire,

2562
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:31,920
>> os,

2563
02:35:31,920 --> 02:35:34,319
department.

2564
02:35:34,319 --> 02:35:36,640
So I mean it is something that we talk

2565
02:35:36,640 --> 02:35:39,359
about in terms of tracking our cost. So

2566
02:35:39,359 --> 02:35:41,760
sometimes I'm kind of like worried about

2567
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:43,600
if we can track the cost and the time

2568
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,359
that we have spent through all the work

2569
02:35:45,359 --> 02:35:47,359
associated with this battery life. I

2570
02:35:47,359 --> 02:35:50,800
think we might break even if someone to

2571
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:52,560
know to come and say well we have x

2572
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:54,880
amount of money but I hope that that is

2573
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:57,359
tracked and preserved

2574
02:35:57,359 --> 02:35:58,960
for future

2575
02:35:58,960 --> 02:36:00,800
>> doing a very good job because I want to

2576
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:02,880
get every dollar we can out of the

2577
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:03,520
sales.

2578
02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:05,439
>> Exactly. And because we do not want to

2579
02:36:05,439 --> 02:36:07,200
give back,

2580
02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:08,880
>> our hearing date is zero on both those

2581
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:13,030
lines on a safe.

2582
02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:15,200
» Well, I was wondering about that also.

2583
02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:16,960
Um,

2584
02:36:16,960 --> 02:36:20,389
>> why is that?

2585
02:36:20,399 --> 02:36:22,880
» That would be development question. Why

2586
02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:27,190
it's not being drawn down?

2587
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:29,040
» Can you can you find it for us, please?

2588
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:29,680
Wasn't

2589
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:31,359
>> as a followup question.

2590
02:36:31,359 --> 02:36:34,479
>> Wasn't this and I'm could be wrong.

2591
02:36:34,479 --> 02:36:35,840
Wasn't this like in a different

2592
02:36:35,840 --> 02:36:37,760
department at one point?

2593
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:39,359
>> Maybe this is movable to development.

2594
02:36:39,359 --> 02:36:40,240
No,

2595
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:42,399
>> no, this this is always

2596
02:36:42,399 --> 02:36:44,800
>> No, not okay.

2597
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:46,960
>> The money

2598
02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:48,880
but different department like finance

2599
02:36:48,880 --> 02:36:51,600
gets paid some staff.

2600
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:53,200
>> Sure.

2601
02:36:53,200 --> 02:36:58,710
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

2602
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:03,990
is that real.

2603
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:05,600
» Thank you.

2604
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:07,840
>> Mayor, we currently have someone who's

2605
02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:11,439
uh we consult to to give us the

2606
02:37:11,439 --> 02:37:14,479
estimate. Is that still on?

2607
02:37:14,479 --> 02:37:16,000
>> Estimate is for

2608
02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:18,960
>> to to list the property.

2609
02:37:18,960 --> 02:37:23,200
So, it is still done in house

2610
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:29,030
outside the county director.

2611
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:30,800
You're still on the homes thing.

2612
02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:31,520
>> Yeah.

2613
02:37:31,520 --> 02:37:32,800
>> Instead of CDBG.

2614
02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:36,720
>> CDBG. Yeah. CDBG.

2615
02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:38,720
>> Yeah. Cuz that's if we don't get that

2616
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:40,240
revenue.

2617
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:42,319
>> I thought it was something before us in

2618
02:37:42,319 --> 02:37:45,280
terms of um hiring someone to help us

2619
02:37:45,280 --> 02:37:48,240
with estimating some

2620
02:37:48,240 --> 02:37:51,439
different things. Yeah.

2621
02:37:51,439 --> 02:37:54,640
>> Then put something out.

2622
02:37:54,640 --> 02:38:01,270
Okay. Okay.

2623
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:04,309
» Okay.

2624
02:38:04,319 --> 02:38:06,880
All right.

2625
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:09,120
I'm looking at everybody there. So, I'm

2626
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:13,600
going to I think we should the

2627
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:15,439
>> one last simple question. No, go ahead.

2628
02:38:15,439 --> 02:38:18,319
There's one last general question around

2629
02:38:18,319 --> 02:38:21,280
>> I see like like so

2630
02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:23,680
kind in line with the CBG money. It's

2631
02:38:23,680 --> 02:38:26,800
like I see the grants showing up like

2632
02:38:26,800 --> 02:38:28,880
for like the police

2633
02:38:28,880 --> 02:38:32,640
>> but um in other So are all of our grants

2634
02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:34,640
reported are we reporting all our grants

2635
02:38:34,640 --> 02:38:37,280
as revenue or is it just we're putting

2636
02:38:37,280 --> 02:38:39,760
grants as revenues that we can like use

2637
02:38:39,760 --> 02:38:41,840
and pull down funds to fund a position?

2638
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:44,080
Like I'm just wondering like is there a

2639
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:46,560
distinction that's being made and like

2640
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:48,800
where would some of that other grant

2641
02:38:48,800 --> 02:38:50,160
money cuz I know that there's more grant

2642
02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:52,000
money coming into the city than this and

2643
02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:54,399
what this reflects.

2644
02:38:54,399 --> 02:38:57,120
>> Um I think it's a majority though it

2645
02:38:57,120 --> 02:39:00,479
depends. Um you see there's new grants

2646
02:39:00,479 --> 02:39:03,280
that the police are showing within

2647
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:06,880
Strive. So there's some that may trickle

2648
02:39:06,880 --> 02:39:09,760
in that are not reported in here but

2649
02:39:09,760 --> 02:39:12,319
they come in throughout the year.

2650
02:39:12,319 --> 02:39:12,800
>> Mhm.

2651
02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:15,760
>> Um so they might not be shown within the

2652
02:39:15,760 --> 02:39:17,200
post budget.

2653
02:39:17,200 --> 02:39:19,840
>> So I mean most of those are

2654
02:39:19,840 --> 02:39:22,000
unless you have a specific question on

2655
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:24,800
those are kind of the reoccurring ones.

2656
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:27,520
When we get a new grant it's yes we want

2657
02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:29,920
to get it but it's not like

2658
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:32,640
>> it's all revenue. There's an expense

2659
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:34,319
associated with it. So you're going to

2660
02:39:34,319 --> 02:39:36,880
lose the incoming money to pay for

2661
02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:37,600
something.

2662
02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:38,319
>> Certainly.

2663
02:39:38,319 --> 02:39:41,040
>> And that's, you know,

2664
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:43,520
we apply for a lot of grants. They can't

2665
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:45,200
accept a grant until we go back to the

2666
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:48,000
city council and uh make a budget

2667
02:39:48,000 --> 02:39:50,479
amendment to

2668
02:39:50,479 --> 02:39:52,000
formally take it.

2669
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:54,800
>> I guess let me direct

2670
02:39:54,800 --> 02:39:57,040
that. Is that are you confident that all

2671
02:39:57,040 --> 02:39:59,040
the grants that we're receiving are

2672
02:39:59,040 --> 02:40:01,439
showing the mass revenue in this report?

2673
02:40:01,439 --> 02:40:04,240
That's a side of the question.

2674
02:40:04,240 --> 02:40:06,399
>> Pretty confident and discussion with the

2675
02:40:06,399 --> 02:40:08,080
police department. Very confident as

2676
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:10,080
well on the grass.

2677
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:11,600
>> I wasn't just talking about the police

2678
02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:13,920
department.

2679
02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:16,880
>> Um so Mr. I did ask for and they did

2680
02:40:16,880 --> 02:40:19,120
send and I thought we all had it that

2681
02:40:19,120 --> 02:40:21,680
asking for all the grants that they had

2682
02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:25,040
um and how much it would go into 25

2683
02:40:25,040 --> 02:40:27,439
would go into 26. And generally

2684
02:40:27,439 --> 02:40:29,600
speaking, when they um send when they

2685
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:31,120
present sort of the grant before

2686
02:40:31,120 --> 02:40:34,319
submission is going to go to staffing.

2687
02:40:34,319 --> 02:40:35,600
So I think that's where a lot of it

2688
02:40:35,600 --> 02:40:37,600
shows up. Um I guess we can get the

2689
02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:39,200
breakdown. I know we have every time we

2690
02:40:39,200 --> 02:40:41,439
get grant, but if you want a breakdown

2691
02:40:41,439 --> 02:40:43,600
of how much like actually goes into

2692
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:45,680
staffing and then goes into this budget

2693
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:47,280
or other places in the budget. Is that

2694
02:40:47,280 --> 02:40:51,120
what you're asking? No, I guess a more a

2695
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:53,359
broader question around like how are we

2696
02:40:53,359 --> 02:40:54,880
making the distinction of what shows up

2697
02:40:54,880 --> 02:40:58,000
in grand funding as revenue or not. So

2698
02:40:58,000 --> 02:40:59,359
that's what I was trying to figure out

2699
02:40:59,359 --> 02:41:02,160
here. Yeah. And that question bigger

2700
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:05,040
money,

2701
02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:08,479
you know, the big chunks of money. So it

2702
02:41:08,479 --> 02:41:12,880
also goes to what you determine to do

2703
02:41:12,880 --> 02:41:15,600
with the fund balance is most of those

2704
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:18,399
grants there's none of them just give us

2705
02:41:18,399 --> 02:41:19,120
the money

2706
02:41:19,120 --> 02:41:21,439
>> right we have to

2707
02:41:21,439 --> 02:41:25,200
>> expend the money and then get reimbursed

2708
02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:27,520
>> most of the state government some of the

2709
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:30,880
federal

2710
02:41:30,890 --> 02:41:37,750
[Music]

2711
02:41:37,760 --> 02:41:40,560
Sorry.

2712
02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:44,399
Are we anticipating any surplus on from

2713
02:41:44,399 --> 02:41:47,510
CDP?

2714
02:41:47,520 --> 02:41:48,240
» What else?

2715
02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:51,680
>> I know that's that's a lot.

2716
02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:53,840
>> I hope everybody looks up to exactly

2717
02:41:53,840 --> 02:41:57,040
what the contract is. The reality is

2718
02:41:57,040 --> 02:41:59,359
it's always a little bit of variance

2719
02:41:59,359 --> 02:42:03,280
there where one's a little under the

2720
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:05,840
one's a little bit over.

2721
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:08,080
But do you have specifics or

2722
02:42:08,080 --> 02:42:09,920
>> No, it was just a broad statement

2723
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:12,319
interpret. I was just looking at if this

2724
02:42:12,319 --> 02:42:17,280
can be put into maybe stop stop and

2725
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:20,240
remember in those categories there's

2726
02:42:20,240 --> 02:42:22,720
caps in terms of the public service and

2727
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:25,760
other things. So if

2728
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:29,600
There is a grant in one of the lines.

2729
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:32,560
More than likely, we have to been

2730
02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:35,760
expended on a similar type of program

2731
02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:38,240
either within that agency or a similar

2732
02:42:38,240 --> 02:42:41,990
agency

2733
02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:46,479
like youth programs for example.

2734
02:42:46,479 --> 02:42:49,040
social because revenue revenue is what's

2735
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:50,880
going to drive

2736
02:42:50,880 --> 02:42:53,439
>> everything here and if we can address

2737
02:42:53,439 --> 02:42:55,200
all the all the expenditure but if we

2738
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:58,560
don't address the revenue we're nowhere

2739
02:42:58,560 --> 02:43:02,560
so one has to learn us out the other

2740
02:43:02,560 --> 02:43:05,280
thing I want to talk about this I had a

2741
02:43:05,280 --> 02:43:06,960
conversation I was asking a question to

2742
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:08,560
the

2743
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:11,120
in terms of the aggressive approach and

2744
02:43:11,120 --> 02:43:14,960
amusing officers and less speed time 3

2745
02:43:14,960 --> 02:43:17,120
to 7. They're kind of doing the what

2746
02:43:17,120 --> 02:43:18,640
they call the license plate readers

2747
02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:20,319
scanning people without standing parking

2748
02:43:20,319 --> 02:43:23,200
ticket or people in the parking wrong

2749
02:43:23,200 --> 02:43:25,040
side and things like that in the morning

2750
02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:28,319
now when they rush for a call and

2751
02:43:28,319 --> 02:43:31,040
they've been generating some pretty good

2752
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:36,479
6 to9 $69,000 for 4 hour detail with

2753
02:43:36,479 --> 02:43:38,319
three and three offices working.

2754
02:43:38,319 --> 02:43:38,640
>> Yes.

2755
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:41,439
>> So I have to commend them for this. And

2756
02:43:41,439 --> 02:43:45,040
>> that's some of the technology the other

2757
02:43:45,040 --> 02:43:47,359
>> this was shared to this was shared to

2758
02:43:47,359 --> 02:43:47,920
everyone.

2759
02:43:47,920 --> 02:43:48,800
>> No

2760
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:51,279
>> I did I don't think so.

2761
02:43:51,279 --> 02:43:52,160
>> I don't think so.

2762
02:43:52,160 --> 02:43:58,080
>> I am going to share it. Um we can bring in stuff to talk about

2763
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:01,680
the uh the recovery

2764
02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:05,600
either tomorrow or Wednesday

2765
02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:08,000
just

2766
02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:10,399
to kind of give us a brief on where it

2767
02:44:10,399 --> 02:44:12,560
stands on what uh what different

2768
02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:14,399
approach we can take in terms of this

2769
02:44:14,399 --> 02:44:17,520
recovery. But um I have to say that I

2770
02:44:17,520 --> 02:44:18,800
mean additional revenue is coming in

2771
02:44:18,800 --> 02:44:20,319
there really. So you multiply this

2772
02:44:20,319 --> 02:44:25,120
$69,000 survey for 6 days a week over

2773
02:44:25,120 --> 02:44:29,439
365 days. So we have to look at what

2774
02:44:29,439 --> 02:44:31,920
they're doing here in terms of the line

2775
02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:33,279
for the

2776
02:44:33,279 --> 02:44:35,439
>> the fines parking.

2777
02:44:35,439 --> 02:44:36,720
>> So that is something here we have

2778
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,359
$900,000 budgeted there. I mean and they

2779
02:44:39,359 --> 02:44:41,760
continue by this aggressive approach. So

2780
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:45,840
the people who are not paying their ticket which which we are doing

2781
02:44:45,840 --> 02:44:48,160
here in I think we should look at the

2782
02:44:48,160 --> 02:44:50,080
numbers

2783
02:44:50,080 --> 02:44:54,550
uh adjust

2784
02:44:54,560 --> 02:44:56,720
» I'm just always pretty cautious about

2785
02:44:56,720 --> 02:44:59,040
you know I don't want to over um

2786
02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:00,240
estimate revenue.

2787
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:02,640
>> Well it's an estimate.

2788
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:04,160
of hoping that we can

2789
02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:06,479
achieve it and that's what that's what

2790
02:45:06,479 --> 02:45:07,760
>> that one sounds really reasonable

2791
02:45:07,760 --> 02:45:09,680
>> but anyone that you want to review more

2792
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:12,399
happy review it some of these estimates

2793
02:45:12,399 --> 02:45:14,960
were put in

2794
02:45:14,960 --> 02:45:19,040
>> in June July so we have

2795
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:21,840
>> 60 days more information terms of

2796
02:45:21,840 --> 02:45:24,080
collections and some of them hopefully

2797
02:45:24,080 --> 02:45:26,640
they're all going up for revenue times

2798
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,640
that's not always the case

2799
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:31,279
>> we always hope it's an estimate how many

2800
02:45:31,279 --> 02:45:33,920
adjustable D we achieve it. Um if we

2801
02:45:33,920 --> 02:45:35,920
don't achieve it then we make amends and

2802
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:37,520
then we move things around in the

2803
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:38,880
future.

2804
02:45:38,880 --> 02:45:41,439
>> I think we just each department has to

2805
02:45:41,439 --> 02:45:45,279
continue to drive that to you know

2806
02:45:45,279 --> 02:45:46,960
revenue

2807
02:45:46,960 --> 02:45:51,040
police department uh is doing it

2808
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:52,880
expand more in terms of collection

2809
02:45:52,880 --> 02:45:57,269
across the board.

2810
02:45:57,279 --> 02:46:01,349
Any other questions?

2811
02:46:01,359 --> 02:46:05,600
See none, we can reconvene tomorrow 5:30

2812
02:46:05,600 --> 02:46:10,389
right here room 1.

2813
02:46:10,399 --> 02:46:12,479
So the expectations for tomorrow's

2814
02:46:12,479 --> 02:46:16,479
meeting is that finally like announce

2815
02:46:16,479 --> 02:46:20,479
and start to put figures in place.

2816
02:46:20,479 --> 02:46:22,720
a few more meetings and we have that

2817
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:25,200
meeting

2818
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:29,200
tomorrow. I'll adjust some things from

2819
02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:32,160
here.

2820
02:46:32,160 --> 02:46:34,240
Sorry.

2821
02:46:34,240 --> 02:46:35,600
>> Will we do that?

2822
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:39,279
>> I encourage everyone please come to the

2823
02:46:39,279 --> 02:46:41,760
table. There's nothing.

2824
02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:45,040
Ask questions, make suggestion. We we

2825
02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:48,240
need to to identify revenue and how we

2826
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:52,160
can outset the cost as we look to be

2827
02:46:52,160 --> 02:46:55,520
flexible and achieve something. The goal

2828
02:46:55,520 --> 02:46:58,319
is to to have a budget this week. So

2829
02:46:58,319 --> 02:47:00,000
let's just come to the table. Let's be

2830
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:02,319
flexible as well and ask question.

2831
02:47:02,319 --> 02:47:04,800
Please reach out to the mayor.

2832
02:47:04,800 --> 02:47:07,840
Reach out to me and let's have your

2833
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:09,920
question. Have your subject on the

2834
02:47:09,920 --> 02:47:12,000
table.

2835
02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:15,200
open to recess 5:30 tomorrow afternoon.

2836
02:47:15,200 --> 02:47:16,319
>> So much.

2837
02:47:16,319 --> 02:47:31,110
>> All in favor? I thank you.

2838
02:47:31,120 --> 02:47:35,840
» Hey, this was

2839
02:47:35,840 --> 02:47:51,269
scary.

2840
02:47:51,279 --> 02:47:56,550
I I can't because it was sent

2841
02:47:56,560 --> 02:48:00,150
to

2842
02:48:00,160 --> 02:48:02,640
Can I give you this back?

2843
02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:11,349
>> Thank you very much.

2844
02:48:11,359 --> 02:54:41,990
What? Oh,

2845
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:48,560
Hey, hey.

2846
02:54:48,560 --> 02:54:49,740
hey.

2847
02:54:49,740 --> 02:55:01,719
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