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No, I'll

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» bring

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a huge long email just

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>> right.

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can't even read for a minute.

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» Good evening everyone. I'd like to

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recall the finance committee to order

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and we will continue our 2026 budget

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review.

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Uh before we get into

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our uh internal discussion,

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I would like to ask um

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director of our department of

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development and that's Alex Car

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to kind of brief us on a couple of

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outstanding items. The council member

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have

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last evening. Um

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there were two questions we need follow

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up with and those has to do with um

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the CBG

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surplus

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and CPG uh where is the money uh being

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lost in terms of the cause and if

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there's any surplus that within the

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various department within the city

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that is allowed

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other guidelines.

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>> Okay. One where it is log is we put out

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our annual action plan every year what

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our allocations are and we log in and IS

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which was our HUD financial system.

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So all of our funding is lost.

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We use those things when we bring forth

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an annual action plan every year as part

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of the 5-year consolidated plan. When I

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come and say these are our priorities

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and then every year we come based on

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applications we come before with you

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with proposals from approved

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applications amount that they apply for.

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No, you can't just take a surplus and

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reuse it and put it into the general

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fund. That's not how it um how it works

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and it has to align to the CURS and

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national objectives. So, anything that

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we do, we're going by HUD to say it's

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going to be, you know, one of the three

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national um objectives and it needs to

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be part of the city's priority. So, we

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would have to state that in the

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consolidated in the 5year consolidated

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plan.

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>> I know that sounds like a lot, right?

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>> So,

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we are not allowed to use it for any

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city project or any city cost. Well, you

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can if it aligns with what the price

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were that we outlined in our five-year

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plan.

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for example if you apply like we have

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when you say circle we have things that

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come every year that gets allocated to

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city projects whether it be development

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whether it be code whether it be

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engineering those things are those

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things come into the city from from

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those fundings. So for example, if we

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have something, I'll use this youth line

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for an example. We've identified in 2022

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during CO that we allocated funding for

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youth program that was never set up and

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never spent. Now, we've realized that

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the general fund is looking for money to

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fill the gap for the youth program that

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aligns with the national objectives and

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the priorities that we set forth in our

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consolidated plan for the city to fund

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youth activities and initiative, youth

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employment. So, that would align. So,

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it's not just it's not just anything.

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and all of those things. You have to

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move it down. We pass the other on

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like we're starting on a good note. I

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like this.

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>> Yeah. No, that's exactly what we wanted

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guidance from you in terms of can we use

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it for you? Can we use it for seniors

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because we have to fund it seniors

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before through CDBG

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>> and we still fund seniors. We we we fund

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the contract. Yes. But see those things

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are competitive applications. Yes.

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>> Right. So there's also caps that we have

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to abide by. See, we only can do a

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certain percentage amount of public

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service projects, a certain percentage

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of development projects, things that

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fall into what we designated as our NRSA

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area. So we do have caps for things like

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emergency shelter. We have cap. A

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certain amount of money can only go

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towards that. So when we're working our

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annual action plan and reallocating

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money, we still have to ensure that it

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falls within our cap. If we are looking

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at 2021 money or 2024 money, we have to

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go back and make sure if we're

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reallocating it to a different project

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that we don't exceed

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the percentages, the caps that we to

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remain in compliance.

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So, first of all, thank you for paying

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attention throughout this process and

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looking for trying to figure out ways to

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support uh the youth program in

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particular. Um, it seems like like you

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um located some funds. Um, so I I really

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do appreciate that and I think that that

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um allows us to move past what would be

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a really stickler point for us in the

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budget cuz I don't I don't couldn't see

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myself supporting a budget that didn't

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support that. So I really want to

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explain

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>> and and it's transparency. Anytime we

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use any of the federal dollars that come

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out development, there's a substantial

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amount of reporting and accountability

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that has to occur. So if those if parks

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is going to be facilitating this youth

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program, they need to work with the

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department to make sure that they're

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doing quarterly reporting that we have

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the measurables that we need to report

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to us. So it's not as simple as we found

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money, we give you the money. there is reporting quarterly reporting

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um that is due to the department so that

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we can submit that to the federal

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government.

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>> So when we first started the program um

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what we did which we got away from which

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I would like to see us go back to was

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partnering with the county because the

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counties they had the the infrastructure

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and the reporting the reporting

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infrastructure that at the time aligned

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with kind of what you're talking about.

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So that's something that we might want

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to revisit just because I don't want to

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put more work on your department

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especially being you know helping us

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find the money for the

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>> parks parks. Okay

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for clarity for for parks cuz I but I do

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appreciate that. So my question is what

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so I was originally um before before

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these conversations were happening I was

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talking about using money for the golf

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court from the revenue from the golf

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course to support the youth line and in

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yesterday's conversation I was

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suggesting if we find the money and it

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seems like we have the money that's a

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line that we could use from CBDG funds

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what about our seniors is is is that are

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we in the same situation for seniors or

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could we or should we go look at using

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the revenue identified from the golf

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course or to support seniors.

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>> There are no funds that were previously

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allocated that align with senior

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services that haven't been expended.

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>> So, if there So, I can see that we used

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to partner with the county and some of

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the money that I found that we can use

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is money that the county never it was

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never set up. They never drawn down. So

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it aligns that that doesn't that there's

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no scenario that applies that way for to

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support seniors right now.

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>> Okay. So we can use the money from the

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golf course to do that.

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>> Um I just want to uh clarify. So what

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you're saying right now is that you did

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find the money for youth employment for

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this 2026 budget.

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>> So you already have um

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all of the uh CDBG. You you have a good

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sense already in this year of what might

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come back into your cup.

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>> No, I have a good sense of what could

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apply for the youth. What I did was I

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had my program account went through to

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see what did we allocate for youth

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services in previous years and that is

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what I'm able to use. But we're in the

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process of closing it out and we're and

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I'm talking about funds from 2021.

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So these are new funds. We're going back

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and doing some reconciliation in our

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department. Okay.

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>> To see what what's out there.

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>> That's great.

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>> Thank you. And I know that Mr. Misca had

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to do that reporting.

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>> He's he's done that kind of stuff

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before. So,

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>> do you have a number?

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>> There's 160,000, but I would like to

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keep the 10,000 to you as 150,000.

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>> I didn't ask for 150.

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>> I asked for I asked for 300, but okay.

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150. Yes.

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>> I thought it was 150. It was but

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before so we currently fund the senior

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center through CDBG. So you're saying

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that they didn't expend all the money so

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they have funding available.

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>> The senior center doesn't they're asking

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for more money. Actually they they apply every year. So they applied

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for 20,000 they spent 20,000 and they're

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asking they're looking for more

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additional money but they're also

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working with the county to try to to

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fill the gap

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>> for this year for 2025. 2026.

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>> They applied for 20 Well, your 2026 is

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my 2025.

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>> okay.

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>> So, do we have something? Do we have

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>> So, we we we awarded them.

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>> We gave them

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>> what they asked for actually. So, let me

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just bring

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>> the 2026.

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>> It's their contract is effective October

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1st. So the the the federal year is

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October 1st to September 30th, 2026. So

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we are right now awarding contracts,

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execution contracts right now. So the

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senior center

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» 24,000

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>> and that will take them into 2024.

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>> 2026.

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>> Well, there are wait.

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>> Oh, go ahead. Sorry. And then I'll come

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» I only have a hand.

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>> Okay.

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>> It wasn't up to you. Um, so well, you

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asked one question I asked. So, it's 150

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allocated for the line.

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>> The senior line that you're talking

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about, you're only talking about the hy

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talking about the other senior satellite

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senior centers is what I'll call them.

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No, but I do see in our general budget,

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we do get a lot of invoices from

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Catholic Charities, but I don't have any

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authority over that. Those are just

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invoices that pass through my

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department, Catholic Charities invoice

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that comes out of general budget. So, I

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don't I haven't had a say so on how much

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or but I just know they pass through. I

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see the invoices and we submit them cuz

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it's been so what's been written out of

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our budget is those like

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>> Yes.

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That's correct.

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>> Do you Yes. Um this is this goes more to

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the revenue one. If you're not if you

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want to finish explaining what you have

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and then I'll ask about the revenue.

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>> No you are doing this. Thank you.

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>> You're making life easy for a lot of us

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here.

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>> Okay. Um last year this is uh now

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line A27A.

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» I'm sorry. What was I'm sorry. What was

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>> A270A?

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Sorry that so there's $100,000 um for

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the SNAP from CBG for SNAP

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>> right and now it's that was adopted 21

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>> page 10 that is now adopted budget for

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2025 but not in 2026

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so

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has

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>> roughly

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$200,000 in CBBG funds from previous

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years that they have not invoiced

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department of development to draw down

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so they were not awarded this year.

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>> How much?

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>> 200,000.

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So they have from 2022 they have $2,559.

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From 2021 they have 100,000 that hasn't

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been set up.

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>> This is SNAP that you're talking about.

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>> Mhm.

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>> And for 2023 they have 100,000. So what

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about you haveund thou uh roughly

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$22,000

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in unspent funds which is why they were

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not funded.

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» So you don't see that in the line in the

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line but we see that CDBG our federal

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dollars don't always show up in general funds but we see it on on our

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side.

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>> Go ahead please. So, if we had something

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that fell under the code of SNAP

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neighborhood revitalization,

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would we be able to access that funding

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that you just said is still

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>> So, it's it's how it's not by title.

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It's how we defined it to HUD. So, it's

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really the clean up city owned property.

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So, stabilization and clean up of city

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own. Gotcha.

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>> So, that's what the title is, but it's

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how we

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>> with the description what we said we

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would do with those with that funding

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lines.

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So, um, so in that case, let's say we

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have staff that do that. Is it possible

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to leave some of that funding for like a

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percentage of it towards that staffing

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salary that does that particular work?

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>> Well, that's what it's for from SNAP.

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That that is what it's what they have.

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That money has been allocated to them to

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ODS and spend. They just have never

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invoiced.

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And it is not for clarity and

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transparency. It is not the government's

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job to invoice that. We fund them. and

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even internal

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allocations. There's reporting. You have

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to invoice. You have to submit those

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time sheets, the properties that you

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worked on. We we still have to submit

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those things to us. So, that is not

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something that my department would have

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autonomy over.

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>> Gotcha.

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>> But that money is there.

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>> Commissioner, any clarity on that? How

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do we how do we move our getting the

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invoice from this department?

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>> Well, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Alex, but this is specifically has to be

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CDBG eligible uh to draw down, correct?

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>> Mhm.

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>> So most of So that when it's to be CDBG

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eligible needs to fall into it needs to

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fall into a low moderate income area in

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our neighborhood revitalization strategy

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area. 85% of our city is that you know

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what I'm saying

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>> if not all

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>> right

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>> well between the the two designations

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that we have

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>> so

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I think

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>> so so what I'm hearing is that that we

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have like over $200,000 that could

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conceivably that's money from back from

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two 2021 that we could conceivably bring

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forward use towards

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um in Yes.

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>> Okay.

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Thank you.

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>> They may have had mentioned um

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a a day or two ago that you're you're

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looking to hire a an agency to help take

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note of um

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afford those property. So what we did

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this year is that 100,000 that would

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typically go to SNAP because they also

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identified to us last year that they

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didn't have the capacity to clean out

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the city owned properties

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>> as quick as we want to put them out. So

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we took that 100,000 and we allocated

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that to department of development so

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that we do have more control. we can bid

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that and we can clean up our property so

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that they're safe for the realtor um to

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access so that that clean up if we make

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it snowing mowing

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you know all of those things to make it

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look good in the community we're going

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to board them up nicely secure them and maintain them. So, we took that one

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in so we can have more control to make

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sure they get done cuz we know that the sell the properties that we have,

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the mayor wants to get them out and list

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them. But we've we've gotten a lot of

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complaints from our realtors that the

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properties are in the best condition or

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safe to enter. So,

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>> right.

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>> And we heard that decision is informed

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by the information that we've been

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hearing from our neighborhood meetings

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with the nonprofit plan.

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>> Right.

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>> Yeah.

429
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No, I was going to say so it sounds like

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that money needs to remain in your

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department. So so you have the autonomy

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and can make those decisions and make

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sure that 100,000 that's going to be for

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that's allocated for 2526 are here

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>> is is us but that is not taken away from

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what SNAP still

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>> but right that was my point but the

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200,000 is still there.

439
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>> Okay go ahead.

440
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>> When will when will that 200,000 not be

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available or to be invoiced to you? Will

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that ever go away?

443
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>> HUD gives us five years

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to spend.

445
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>> No. What year?

446
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>> No. This This 200,000 The 200,000. Oh,

447
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yeah. It'll be

448
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>> This is starting This is going back to

449
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21. Yes.

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>> We need to spend it.

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>> Go ahead. So, it sounds like you're

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recouping some of these funds so that

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your department has more management and

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oversight over it. Um, so then what

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functions outside of that 85% of the

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buildings that rely on the city is this

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apartment still going to be responsible

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for conducting?

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>> I'm not clear on a question. I'm sorry.

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Council member,

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>> if you're maintaining the properties,

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what's not doing for the 15% of the

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properties that are eligible?

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>> Well, we're going to maintain the

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properties moving forward, but there's

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plenty of properties that are still on

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our roll that need to be addressed. And

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even when SNAP goes out, when we get a

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complaint, and I'll use this for an

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example, if somebody does a click, see C

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click C and they got a bill remove

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debris

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>> right

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>> from the front of the house and it's on

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Easter, the time that they spent is

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billable um from CDBG, that's that's

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addressing the issue. So

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>> Mhm. I think there's some um flexibility

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on how they they spend that money out

480
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because it's not just for city own city

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owned properties that are going for

482
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sale.

483
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>> So William sir I mean looking at that

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you're hiring a consultant to help with

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property. So that's taking away

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responsibility from staff.

487
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>> Are you hiring

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the company? just we're bidding it out.

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So we get a contractor that know we can

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get the address.

491
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>> So that is taking away responsibility

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from this department.

493
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>> Yes.

494
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>> But they said they didn't have the

495
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capacity. So it's it's like work wasn't

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being done. It's essentially

497
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>> they've been they've been doing it but

498
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not as not not as fast. Snap doesn't

499
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have the manpower to do them as fast as

500
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it should be done to maintain what they

501
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regularly would do. M

502
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>> in the city owned properties.

503
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>> So what we need to do is look in our

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budget to see how we can reallocate the

505
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200,000 that is existing now to see

506
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along and and see how we could do that

507
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with as long as being in line with the

508
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HUD uh parameters.

509
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,799
>> I don't think we need to reallocate

510
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:07,520
that. It's already

511
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>> not reallocated but

512
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>> well no expense.

513
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>> No. So, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm

514
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scared. SNAP, in other words, moving

515
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:20,000
forward, that $100,000 is going to come

516
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600
back into development, right? So, we got

517
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,559
that. However, there is $200,000

518
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existing right now within SNAP that they

519
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have not invoiced for.

520
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,159
>> Correct.

521
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>> So, and that money is only good for 5

522
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years.

523
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,640
>> So, so we could repurpose,

524
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we could I'm looking for the right term.

525
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We could reuse that money as long as it

526
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falls within the parameters of what we

527
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expressed originally.

528
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Is that correct?

529
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,440
>> So would it make sense to use it to

530
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offset some of the snapsh the money

531
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there for that?

532
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,799
>> This is where I'm going.

533
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>> So as that makes that

534
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that's the that was the intention.

535
00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:03,360
>> Okay. All right. And this year we really

536
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,880
need that. So we can use this 210,000

537
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,710
>> 206

538
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for those right there.

539
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>> $22,559

540
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» that we can use now for

541
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>> Yes. In that category. So, can I just

542
00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:26,159
So, in other words, right now, Miss

543
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:30,720
Carver, in the 2026 projected budget,

544
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,039
there's zero on CDBG snack neighborhood

545
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,840
revitalization. So, just to try to close

546
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,480
this part of the conversation, we could

547
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put $200,000

548
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in that line instead of

549
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,760
>> that. Well, this is old funds that

550
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you're spending down. I wouldn't put

551
00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:55,039
that in. It's already there. This is old money that would have showed

552
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,440
up in previous years that hasn't been

553
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,679
spent. I don't know how to

554
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,520
>> Well, but but we're trying to we're

555
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840
obviously trying to increase our revenue

556
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,760
side of this budget. And so right now

557
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,039
that says zero for us. Um so that

558
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,039
200,000 that you're talking about is not

559
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:13,360
showing up anywhere for us. That will be

560
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,760
a commissioner. So what I'm saying is

561
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,909
can I take the zeroiz

562
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,720
» but if we put if we used it to support

563
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,640
salaries that

564
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,400
>> that are that no in other words if we

565
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,279
use that money to support salaries right

566
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,520
now or or portion of salaries that are

567
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,400
being um drawn from the general fund

568
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,200
then that 200,000 would essentially th

569
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,039
show up in our general fund because not

570
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,039
we wouldn't be use we'll be using this

571
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,960
200k instead taking money for the

572
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,159
general fund.

573
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:48,559
>> Okay. Everything works out correctly.

574
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:49,919
>> Well, well, if she's saying that we

575
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:52,240
could use it for salaries as long as

576
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,520
there's SNAP salaries then

577
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,120
>> Yeah. So, let's do that.

578
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,360
>> Well, it is it is.

579
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:00,559
>> Yeah. So, let's do that.

580
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,679
>> So, that means the the tracking OS would

581
00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:06,080
have to track the addresses and the time

582
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240
to make sure that they are in the

583
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,559
designated areas, which could be

584
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,120
cumbersome for men that are out in the

585
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,799
field. I know Chris expressed that

586
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:16,799
before. You know, they're out in the

587
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,200
field tracking it and I don't want to

588
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480
speak for his department, but

589
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,600
yeah.

590
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,159
>> Um, but if they're So, my understanding

591
00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:27,760
of if they don't randomly go, they

592
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,039
already know where they're assigned. So,

593
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,039
we know before they ever went there that

594
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:32,799
it's in

595
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,880
Goose Hill, I'll just use that. Or it's

596
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,520
in Hamilton and North NRSA CDG. So, when

597
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600
they assigned where to go clean up, they

598
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,440
would know ahead of time. So they it's

599
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,000
not like the people on the ground would

600
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240
have to capture that their supervisor

601
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,320
like look and say okay this is in that

602
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960
area and this can be assigned to that

603
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,159
person going to do it.

604
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:56,720
>> Okay. I'm not it's not my department so

605
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,279
I'm not it's privy to you know their

606
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,640
process and how they how they do things.

607
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,400
>> So um would OGS have to invoice that

608
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,720
money every time they went? So it's it's

609
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,400
not like it's

610
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,440
>> not every time.

611
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,120
>> Okay. But they didn't they didn't do it

612
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,159
quarterly,

613
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:15,279
>> you know.

614
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,279
>> But it still has to be invoiced. So

615
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,640
money could still just be invoiced. And

616
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,159
>> right

617
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,919
I'm sorry. They could still not

618
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:27,440
>> the money could just still be there if it's not invoiced because nothing's

619
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679
been used or invoiced. And do is there

620
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,840
any outstanding invoices they might have

621
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600
that they didn't put through to you in

622
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,960
the past 2 or 3 years?

623
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,200
>> Now we've been in communication with

624
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
them council. So if they know that they

625
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,400
could invoice, it's just

626
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,400
>> they haven't. And I I'm sure there's

627
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,159
some obstacles that they're facing and

628
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:49,039
there's a valid reason why they haven't.

629
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,120
>> I can't speak to them, but so it might

630
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,520
not even be there if they if they have

631
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,039
invoices. They just haven't put

632
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,279
>> I doubt that they had invoices for that

633
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:59,039
many years. So depending I think that

634
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,520
they would probably use funds that were

635
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,559
more still readily available to them. So

636
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,799
for fun, so you're talking about this

637
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,960
26,000. Where is this one?

638
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,630
>> 200.

639
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,799
» John, just say 200. Let's Let's leave

640
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,360
her a little Let's leave her a little in

641
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,000
case somebody does something this year.

642
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,440
>> It's not in the general fund. That's why

643
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,000
it's not here.

644
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,640
>> It's not in the general. It's It's not

645
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,559
in the general fund because it hasn't

646
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,200
been set up yet. So it's been allocated.

647
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,919
In order for commissioner and his team

648
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:34,640
to see it, we have to set it up and tell

649
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960
them we've set it up and do the PO

650
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,320
process. These funds are allocated from

651
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,600
our annual action plan but not set up in

652
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,960
the

653
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,039
>> So this makes a little too much in the

654
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:47,679
weeds for us.

655
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:49,440
>> How many how many more funds do we have

656
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,279
like this in the cloud?

657
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:54,480
in your work.

658
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,240
>> Back to my father in the money tree in

659
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,799
the backyard.

660
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,440
>> Because if we have $200,000 hair in the

661
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,200
cloud,

662
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,279
>> how much more funding do we have that we

663
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,360
are not utilizing from CDPG over the

664
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,919
last four or five years?

665
00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:10,159
>> Well, I wouldn't say we're not you

666
00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:12,080
utilizing it. The funding that I'm I'm

667
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,320
seeing is really impact from CO, right?

668
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080
It's not that we're not it's not that

669
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
we're not utilizing it. And now that we

670
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,320
have a full team, it gives us an

671
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,279
opportunity to really dive in and close

672
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,159
out projects. So close out projects,

673
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,880
understand what hasn't been set up, but

674
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,039
allocated. It's it's complex and I'm not

675
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,440
expecting you in the next 5 minutes to

676
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,399
really understand, but our HUD funding

677
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:41,120
has a HUD system that we

678
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,919
>> that we use. Our general funds has a

679
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:46,559
general fund system. It is it is

680
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,399
separate.

681
00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:49,840
If before I go, I just have a follow up

682
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,000
there. So, can we can we get a report of

683
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,919
all the outstanding

684
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,919
>> there there is no report yet because my

685
00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:00,399
team as I said council we're we're

686
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:03,760
working through this. We're trying to

687
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
>> But do you have something to say that we

688
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,360
can spend on from 2021 to now there is a

689
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,360
balance of what we need for what I you

690
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,200
can't work on it because it has to be

691
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,399
part of what? No, no, no, no.

692
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:22,720
2021 to now fun and it's not spend

693
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,720
enough

694
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,840
that needs that need actions.

695
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,720
>> I will I will get you something.

696
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,440
>> Go ahead.

697
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,919
>> That's not a That's not a function

698
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,600
though.

699
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,919
If I go through and do all that, it has

700
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:41,440
to be a we have to now put that out to

701
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,600
the public. That can't be something that

702
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,159
I say these are the funds that we have

703
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:48,159
in city council. There's a substantial

704
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:50,240
amendment. It's a process. I can't say

705
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,600
these are the funds and then city

706
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600
council decides where this money goes

707
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,919
because it's community development money

708
00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:58,240
that needs to go into the community and

709
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,559
the community has to say so and then we

710
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,080
do a public notice and then we have a um

711
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,679
>> grants grant applications.

712
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:08,640
>> We have the applications and then we we

713
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,279
have the public camera. So, it's not I

714
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,120
can do that, but it's not something that

715
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600
city council can say we can move this

716
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,679
money, we can do that money. We cannot x

717
00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:22,000
out the public um responsibility

718
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,360
for that.

719
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,559
>> So, okay. So, let's get back to this

720
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,080
$200,000

721
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,919
that we know is here.

722
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,000
>> We understand the intended function of

723
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,760
it. It was not used in the timeline that

724
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,840
we originally expected, but right now

725
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,320
we're looking at $200,000

726
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,679
with a clear purpose that we can use it

727
00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:45,279
for as long as it stays within these

728
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:49,840
parameters. So, so we should the council

729
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,399
should look into

730
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:55,279
what what positions that we have in the

731
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,279
city right now that are working in a to

732
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,039
this aligned function of what this

733
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,320
$200,000 was. So, we have someone who

734
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,919
salary is $70,000

735
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,720
and they're doing this the type of work

736
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,760
that falls under this umbrella, then

737
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080
that's $70,000 that doesn't have to come

738
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480
from our general fund that we could use

739
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120
this this $200,000 to fund that

740
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,320
position. So, that would be a plus of

741
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,720
$200,000. I think that's what we need to

742
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,480
focus on right now and then we could

743
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
look to the next thing.

744
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,960
>> I would agree with that. um that we got

745
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,159
to do,

746
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:37,679
>> but I have no You never look down here.

747
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:41,200
>> The money was waiting down.

748
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,720
>> Um so I'm just going to yell out. Um so

749
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,559
I have I agree with that because I don't

750
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,320
think like what Miss Carver said, we can

751
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,080
like look at all the money because as we

752
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,360
what we talked about yesterday, maybe

753
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,120
you weren't even here, Miss Carver. I

754
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000
think it was specifically said that CDBG

755
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480
has specific parameters and guidelines

756
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,399
and we have to say within those

757
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:03,200
>> and a citizen participation and

758
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960
partition and beyond these seven

759
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,159
citizens.

760
00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:09,840
>> Uh so so I would agree with you that my

761
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,120
further question though about the budget

762
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,519
as the revenue is that the 100,000 that

763
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,799
was you took back in house to 2 million

764
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:19,919
um through receipts through the

765
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:21,919
department of development. I see that

766
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:25,519
last year we allocated 570,000 on the CG

767
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,720
VG line for the department and this year

768
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,159
same amount. So I was so the question

769
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:38,880
for me became how that so that 570,000

770
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,760
are our admin costs the whole the SNAP

771
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
money that 100,000 is not ad is not

772
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,640
development admin. So we didn't

773
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,880
reallocate it for admin. we've

774
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360
reallocated to bid bid it out for a

775
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,519
project. Okay. So that's why it is not

776
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,919
reflected there. Thank you for

777
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:01,110
clarification.

778
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,919
» Go ahead please.

779
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:05,360
>> But again I just want to say for we all

780
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,200
200,000 which I'm now I'm rounding down

781
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,399
won't be able to remember the exact

782
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:13,599
figure that you keep saying but we have

783
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,679
to go through a process. No,

784
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,879
>> no, we don't have

785
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:18,720
>> not

786
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,760
if we do. No, not for

787
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,399
keep it if we keep it the same. That's

788
00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:25,040
already

789
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,119
>> Okay, that was my first question when we

790
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,200
first started this.

791
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,599
>> This is already allocated to the city.

792
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,839
It's already allocated.

793
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,359
It's already

794
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:37,119
>> It's already allocated. We've already

795
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,960
allocated that funding.

796
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,040
>> But we need in the budget. Is that what

797
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,119
you're saying? I don't know if we need I

798
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,639
don't know that far that's outside

799
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,240
>> this is a this is a commissioner a

800
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,399
commissioner question but that's where I

801
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,399
think you were jo kind of joking about

802
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,879
it being in the cloud but can look can

803
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:56,159
we just cut to the question that I'm

804
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,000
just trying to find the answer for

805
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,640
>> you so your question can we just say

806
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,320
okay instead of zero in the 2026 budget

807
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,440
on that line can we right now all fill

808
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,079
in on our budget $200,000 specifically

809
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:12,880
for SNAP

810
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,079
>> for SNAP.

811
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,079
>> Okay. And then you guys, we don't have

812
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,280
to worry about, you know, Mr. Lefon

813
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,920
putting in invoices, etc., etc. That's

814
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,839
all internal staff, uh, kinds of stuff.

815
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:28,160
But that's the answer to this question.

816
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880
>> Yeah. But things that the 200,000 coming

817
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760
into the line, it will reduce, um, the

818
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,079
general fund by $200,000,

819
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,240
>> right? 816. A

820
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,240
>> right game is

821
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:44,000
>> A1621 that line is 156. What is that?

822
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
>> So under snap

823
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,920
>> A621 100 we can use that $200,000

824
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,040
salary. So we'll just need a revenue in

825
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960
>> 200,000's available that goes back to

826
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,400
the general fund.

827
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,640
>> So just make yourself not I still have

828
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,880
the time. This is why we called you

829
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,200
here.

830
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960
>> What page was that? 16

831
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,400
>> that is page 25. So

832
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:08,880
>> thank you.

833
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,680
>> That is something that we can make um

834
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,119
>> recommendations.

835
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,160
>> Ah I see what you're saying.

836
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,160
>> Any other question for uh while we got

837
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,480
the unit

838
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,200
>> Mr. Williams?

839
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,160
>> Okay.

840
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,800
>> I mean although practically for us our

841
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,720
involvement in this process does not

842
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,400
extend beyond this conversation. There

843
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,240
needs to be internal discussions to

844
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,480
ensure that that process is done

845
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,320
otherwise we just $300,000.

846
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
So that is a further discussion that

847
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,320
does not include us but that needs to

848
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,680
happen. How do we ensure that that

849
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,480
happens?

850
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,400
>> Yeah and that's exactly I will I make

851
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,079
myself not about that. I will follow up

852
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,960
to make sure that we capture from 2021

853
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,320
to now you know current period. So what

854
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,000
is available what needs to spend off and

855
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,280
things like that so we don't have any

856
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,839
money lingering as a commissioner says

857
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:59,670
in the 12

858
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,839
» let me just

859
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:04,160
can finish. Oh, go ahead.

860
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,920
>> But I think what Mr. Williams is saying,

861
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,599
how do we ensure because right now we're

862
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,440
in this position because it was not

863
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,040
dropped down. There were no invoices

864
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,440
sent. So what she

865
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,079
>> what Mr. Williams is saying is how do we

866
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:18,880
ensure city invoices are submitted? I

867
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,880
mean we we can't do that. We as council

868
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,599
that's not our responsibility but what

869
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:25,280
system gets put into place I guess I'll

870
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,839
look at you what system gets put in

871
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:30,960
place so that the invoices are said so

872
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,240
the money gets spent or we could be

873
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,839
having the same conversation again next

874
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,599
year

875
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,880
>> again money won't get spent

876
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,800
>> again I just feel like that's an

877
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,720
internal I think Mr. Williams just said

878
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,800
it. I'm repeating now what you just

879
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,480
said, which I was trying to say earlier,

880
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,880
which is that's an internal staffing

881
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,000
decision. If we can use the $200,000,

882
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480
let's put the $200,000 in our budget.

883
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Let's let uh commissioner and our

884
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,240
director of development speak with Mr.

885
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,240
Leond or whatever. I mean, is there a

886
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,040
deadline in 2026 because that's the

887
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,000
5year mark, right? Um is there like a is

888
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,119
it March 20th? Is it August 17th?

889
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,160
We should let them figure that out. Um,

890
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,240
but we the answer to our question is

891
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,960
yes, we can put that $200,000 into the

892
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,599
snap line.

893
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,160
>> Yeah, but but it's our responsibility

894
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,480
too because if we didn't call back here,

895
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,320
none of us would be aware there is

896
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,839
$200,000

897
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:33,200
packing there. So, I think we need Yeah,

898
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,720
we can't we can't direct them what to

899
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,880
do, but we need to be informed of what's

900
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,160
going on. I mean there are things like

901
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,240
this outside there

902
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,400
commissioner of finance and department

903
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,880
of development director

904
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,119
they need to help each other and get it

905
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,760
sort of able to spend all this money.

906
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:56,320
>> Yeah, I was just going to say let's let's look to put that money into that line and then and this seems

907
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,520
like this was something that happened

908
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,680
before you were even in the position

909
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,599
that you're in now. I have all the

910
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:03,040
confidence in your ability to make sure

911
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,599
that we don't lose $200,000 for somebody

912
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,520
to put in a receipt. I'm sure you can do

913
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,359
that. Let's go

914
00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:13,280
>> before Miss Park as well. Boom.

915
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,079
>> All right. Go ahead.

916
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,760
>> Okay. So, my other Can we leave that

917
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,359
line?

918
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:19,040
>> Mr. Mun, are you asking me to

919
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
>> Does everybody think that we finalized

920
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,640
that discussion on that one?

921
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,240
>> It's going to go in 8 months.

922
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,640
>> Here's my next question for Miss Carver

923
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520
and it is regarding the homes revenue,

924
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,359
the sale of homes. So, the budget as a

925
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:36,720
um I have to find it. Sorry.

926
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,320
forget about revenue right?

927
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480
>> Yep. I want to make sure that that

928
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,480
revenue line is realistic.

929
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:50,630
>> 26

930
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,920
» uh 260 I don't have 26.

931
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,079
>> Okay. Oh, I've got it. Okay.

932
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,320
>> Uhoop.

933
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,720
>> Yeah. Okay, I got it now. Thank you. Um,

934
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,720
so we've projected

935
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:07,040
in 2026 budget

936
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
>> $3 million in revenue from the homes

937
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,839
program. And at the same time,

938
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:15,440
I'm sorry, I just got to go to this one

939
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440
now. 535.

940
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,800
>> Thank you. Year to date.

941
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,839
>> What? Say it again, please.

942
00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:23,520
>> 1,535 year to date as of

943
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,040
>> which probably doesn't include

944
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,880
>> probably since last September.

945
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,320
>> Yeah. So we still have a little bit more

946
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,480
revenue than million. So, we talked

947
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,920
about this a little bit the last time

948
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,280
when I was hearing the mayor gave

949
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,119
clarity that we have major projects, the

950
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,560
Sketch D40 project and um housing in

951
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,280
Roderdam that is still the sales of that

952
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,560
is still pending.

953
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,680
>> Um so,

954
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,720
>> okay. Just wanted to make sure before we

955
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:48,000
>> the conversation with the mayor said

956
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,280
more likely we will be close to the

957
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520
estimated for this year. Okay. and then

958
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,560
we may have um one project rolled over

959
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,280
into next year with a size of money in

960
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,560
the 2022.

961
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,000
>> Okay. Thank you.

962
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,440
>> Thank you. Um there are some uh notes

963
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,119
out there putting that projection at 4.5

964
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,839
million. Does that seem realistic to you

965
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:14,400
from 3 to 4.5?

966
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Not not based on our current foreclosure

967
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,560
list. That's our think that we have

968
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,520
enough properties to satisfy that.

969
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,319
Gotcha. I did ask last night for

970
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,000
preparation council to put those

971
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,079
together expecting foreclosures the two

972
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,319
six or seven this year but next year two

973
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:34,160
forclosure is coming.

974
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,550
>> Yeah. No anyor

975
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,359
let me recap that pre-forclosure that is

976
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:47,200
going to happen into next year plus the one of the sizable sale property or

977
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,760
two into next year.

978
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,839
and two next year. So that will

979
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:54,400
roll over into next year sale. So we

980
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,839
have three sales before sale into next

981
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:00,319
year. Plus if the two major project

982
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,000
doesn't happen this year, it will roll

983
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,839
over into next year. That's how I factor

984
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:06,000
my number and ask. No, I'm going to

985
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,520
clarify it because we did listen to the

986
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,280
corporation council. We did talk about

987
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,480
it and why am I protecting that one?

988
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,079
because of two project and because of

989
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,720
the the pre foreclosure that's happening

990
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:19,359
next year.

991
00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:22,240
>> So do you wish to stick with your 4.5?

992
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,000
>> I am sticking with the same estimate

993
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,839
from this year into next year.

994
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:29,680
>> So again you think that 4.5 in revenue

995
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,880
in that line instead of 3 million is

996
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,520
realistic for your staff to achieve

997
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,400
>> as I previously stated.

998
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,280
I do not think that that is a realistic

999
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,599
number based on the list the information

1000
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,040
that I've been provided on.

1001
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,800
>> That's okay. I just wanted to clarify

1002
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,829
it. Okay. Thank you.

1003
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,359
» Any other questions? Go ahead please.

1004
00:42:53,359 --> 00:42:55,280
>> So I would say is that 3 million on that

1005
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,000
same line a conservative projection or

1006
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,040
to Mr. Lar's point is there room with

1007
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,560
the information that you're avail that

1008
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,839
you have available and that you feel

1009
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:05,839
comfortable sharing with council that we

1010
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:08,480
can go over? I think that's a law. A law

1011
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,400
should be involved in that because they

1012
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,160
are the ones that track that list.

1013
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Council member, we get the list from

1014
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:15,440
law.

1015
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,480
>> Thank you.

1016
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,640
>> Yeah, we did hear we heard from

1017
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,880
corporation council that you know in

1018
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,480
terms of the foreclosure in terms of how

1019
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640
much in the pipeline and that's how the

1020
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,480
factoring and the two pro the two

1021
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,280
housing project the party and then the

1022
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,240
sale and relevant those were high high

1023
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:37,589
volume sales. Mhm.

1024
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,520
There was a question in the email that

1025
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,119
the commissioner said that he had

1026
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,319
another question about the code.

1027
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:46,400
Yeah, that's right. Sorry if that caught

1028
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,160
me.

1029
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,950
That was again that um

1030
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,560
where and I think it's a similar

1031
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,599
situation has to um for line 17c

1032
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,800
enforcement we had 100,000 in revenue

1033
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,270
and right now

1034
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:15,030
» so they did not

1035
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,640
» yes

1036
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,800
but they haven't been drawn down. So

1037
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,440
they for this upcoming year they still

1038
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,240
were awarded 100,000 but they have

1039
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,839
206,000

1040
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:28,079
that need to be drawn down.

1041
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,839
>> So there's 260 now that code if possibly

1042
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:34,480
they can use in the code doing their

1043
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,520
>> Yeah. And and I I support that reasoning

1044
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,960
with putting it in here because I think

1045
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,720
it helps us um be accountable. that kind

1046
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,520
of ease the conversation with

1047
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,280
commissioner and I to work with our

1048
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,520
internal you know departments our

1049
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,640
colleagues to say we we got to we got to

1050
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,240
speak it down because it's in it's in

1051
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,640
black and white so I'm sorry the number

1052
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,040
is

1053
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,119
>> yes 206

1054
00:44:59,119 --> 00:44:59,839
>> go ahead

1055
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:03,440
>> so again I'm just trying to clarify are

1056
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,359
we all hearing and Miss Carver correct

1057
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:11,040
me if I'm wrong that line 217

1058
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,000
>> what page

1059
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,910
It's on page 10.

1060
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,680
» Same thing the CBB fee stuff that we

1061
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,000
were just

1062
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,280
>> So if we wanted to instead of that line

1063
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
being $100,000,

1064
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,960
could we make that line $300,000?

1065
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,640
>> Decrease their expenditure in the

1066
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,240
expenditure part.

1067
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:35,680
>> Reduce the um if you go to the budget

1068
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,520
part, you increase the revenue by

1069
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,720
206,000. I'm going to say 200,000 again.

1070
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,720
and cultural

1071
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,720
put enforcement and we use that for um

1072
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,880
so we release $200,000 into the general

1073
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,160
fund again there so that another

1074
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,240
$200,000 into the general fund.

1075
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:53,119
>> Mhm.

1076
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:54,000
>> May I ask something?

1077
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,280
>> That's why I asked the question. How

1078
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,079
much do we have?

1079
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:57,520
>> I'm just I'm just trying to clarify it.

1080
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:57,920
So

1081
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,240
>> the only reason we're able to do this is

1082
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,599
because it's already allocated to us.

1083
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,079
There's already a resolution in place.

1084
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,480
This has already been approved. this

1085
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,240
already went through the citizen

1086
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,880
participation plan. All of those things

1087
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,160
>> over time.

1088
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,560
>> Yes.

1089
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,839
>> That we can

1090
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:19,520
>> I just want the record to reflect that

1091
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,319
we're not operating outside of

1092
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,720
>> how we should

1093
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,319
it's already allocated to us. It's

1094
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,079
already allocated for this purpose. It's

1095
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:28,800
just

1096
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,079
>> I am so thankful that you're here.

1097
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:33,359
>> So that's adding 200.

1098
00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:35,760
>> Go ahead. But but also to the point is

1099
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,720
that I want to make sure we're not

1100
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,480
getting ahead of ourselves expecting a

1101
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,720
different outcome after any significant

1102
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,920
changes. I'm confident that Miss Con Mr.

1103
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,319
Book can do their jobs to advise the

1104
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:48,160
standards, they're not going to be

1105
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,280
chasing me. They can assist. They can

1106
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,520
assist. But if there is not an

1107
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,240
intentional direction from the mayor's

1108
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,839
office that this is going to be a

1109
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:01,359
priority, we will have a bigger

1110
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,760
into next year. So without that

1111
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,359
reassurance

1112
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,680
I don't feel comfortable. You can put 9

1113
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000
in that you put 900,000 that fine but if

1114
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,240
the work doesn't get done the funds

1115
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,000
don't get replenished into the council

1116
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,119
and we get replenished into the the

1117
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:18,160
general fund.

1118
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,839
>> Well but let me clarify you can use this

1119
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:22,480
for salary.

1120
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,280
>> Okay that's

1121
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,359
>> so they have to draw it off the salary.

1122
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,200
So it's not like a you know time sheet

1123
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,720
has to be submitted and things like that

1124
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,200
but that's more you make it more you

1125
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,880
simplify it more rather than having to

1126
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,119
go submit invoice and submit how many

1127
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,520
times they spend out on the in the field

1128
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,280
is more of a time sheet I would say

1129
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,119
assumptions are

1130
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,480
>> well no that's not

1131
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,720
>> it's not an assumption

1132
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,040
time sheets will still be required where

1133
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,760
they the how where they did their time

1134
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,720
that still applies it has to be in one

1135
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,119
of our designated

1136
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,800
into a system, right? That can't just

1137
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,599
float.

1138
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,240
>> Both both things are true. Both things

1139
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,040
are true. If you use it for these these

1140
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,920
identified lines like the A1621,

1141
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,280
then they're going to pull a salary from

1142
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,480
that line. People are going to have to

1143
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,640
get paid. But what Miss Carver and and Mr. Williams are both saying is that

1144
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,040
after people or while the people are

1145
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,400
getting paid, we still have to make sure

1146
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,599
we're in compliance with that. And the

1147
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:20,960
way to do that is with the appropriate

1148
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,040
reporting structure. So that's they're

1149
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,680
both things are true. So, we just looks

1150
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,920
like we can put almost $400,000 back

1151
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,760
into our general fund if we use this for

1152
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,440
salaries. Okay, good news.

1153
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,480
>> Yeah.

1154
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,240
>> What line are you looking to add this

1155
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:34,640
to?

1156
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,359
>> Uh code enforcements for salary.

1157
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:40,240
>> It's not just salaries. It's a it's

1158
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,960
about it's in it's written written with

1159
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,280
HUD that it's a program. So, what is

1160
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,599
reimburseable is when they go out they

1161
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:51,760
do notices for um pole violations.

1162
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,960
>> That that is that is how it is written. So only the sal work

1163
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960
does those salaries are reimburseable

1164
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,079
when they do that direct work. So my

1165
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,280
team we have a policy and procedure the

1166
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,040
community development supervisor join me

1167
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,400
tonight. We can you know be intentional

1168
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,200
about meeting with the team again and

1169
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,760
kind of going over what's expected

1170
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,680
because we just did this with code and

1171
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,359
it's it's not as easy um as it may seem to be. there there is going to be a

1172
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:26,319
little bit of work into it but that was

1173
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:27,920
the whole purpose oh I'm sorry Mr. Shaw

1174
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,319
I keep saying your hand but that was the

1175
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:32,800
whole purpose of actually assigning CDG

1176
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,480
money to code enforcement to do those

1177
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,559
particular things and to use towards

1178
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,720
those salons for doing particular things

1179
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,480
that's just not happening because

1180
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,400
there's no I I won't say there's no

1181
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,680
system in place

1182
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,520
>> I I will say that it's not being done

1183
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,760
whether and if not there should be a

1184
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,599
system in place and I don't know Mr.

1185
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,559
Mayor and how we are We can force it. I

1186
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:54,000
mean, we put them into the into the

1187
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,760
salary line to draw down a salary to get

1188
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,440
their time sheet to go and issue

1189
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,520
certain, you know, whatever it was

1190
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,359
whatever they need to draw them against,

1191
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:03,440
they need to go ahead and do it and get

1192
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,599
this money and spend

1193
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,119
>> and follow follow the the the

1194
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:07,839
application.

1195
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:10,960
>> We lost Roberta and Robera and Co used

1196
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,800
to do this. So, there was already a

1197
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,440
backlog and then and then there was a

1198
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,319
transition. So that's part of the reason

1199
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:23,040
why those funds haven't been sent back.

1200
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,520
>> Yeah. Go ahead.

1201
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,839
>> So and we also have to remember, excuse

1202
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:29,760
me, we have three total officers moving

1203
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,520
forward that are presently there with

1204
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,640
two supervisors. So sending individuals

1205
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,000
out into the field. I don't know how

1206
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,559
much it trust me I'm happy that we can

1207
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:40,800
get money back into for you know going

1208
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,359
out to doing these things. is the money

1209
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:48,640
from code 2021 as well. That is

1210
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,800
multiple years. So you have 2022 of

1211
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
100,000 that commissioner doesn't see

1212
00:50:55,359 --> 00:50:56,960
because it is not set up

1213
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,000
>> right know complexities to it. So I'm

1214
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,079
not expecting you to understand but we

1215
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,480
haven't set it up in our HUD system but

1216
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,599
it was allocated. And then we had a

1217
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:11,280
100,000 from 2024

1218
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,680
and they have a balance of 6,342

1219
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,510
from 2023.

1220
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,599
Any idea why it was done some years not

1221
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:30,390
other years? Um staffing I mean and and

1222
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,200
is is there's a complexity when we talk

1223
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,720
about the federal dollars in the

1224
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,800
systems, right? So you have to you use

1225
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,280
the oldest money first. So we can award

1226
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,400
you in 2025, but if you have money in

1227
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,559
2021 when we draw down, we got to draw

1228
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,880
down that oldest money because

1229
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
>> the time is ticking and they'll rec

1230
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,319
recapture it so it doesn't in

1231
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:54,960
transition. You know, I'm not making I'm

1232
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,960
not making it doesn't make sense why

1233
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,760
it's there.

1234
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,280
>> But I'm conf I'm confident that my team

1235
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,440
is working on this, which is why I can

1236
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,359
give you these numbers right now. Right?

1237
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:07,680
Because last year this time I wouldn't

1238
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,960
have been able to give you these

1239
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,559
numbers.

1240
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,880
So we're we're we're working on kind of

1241
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,160
aligning our our system with with the

1242
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,680
HUD system in the funding.

1243
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680
>> Mr. Mira, I just want the record to

1244
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,599
reflect that through Miss Carb and her

1245
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,319
team's work, she's not she's has helped

1246
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:30,800
us identify money to support our youth

1247
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,240
line and and a potential additional if

1248
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,440
we work this right adding back

1249
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,079
>> $400,000 to our general fund

1250
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,440
>> based on the work of hurricanes.

1251
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,200
I know that's right President. So thank

1252
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,359
So I just want to say that that that's a

1253
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,280
you know when I spoke with you earlier

1254
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,839
about the youth money I I wasn't even

1255
00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:56,000
aware of this other money that was

1256
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,680
there. So this is all a result of your

1257
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,440
team work. So Mitch, we appreciate the

1258
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,839
work that you guys are doing. Um very

1259
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:02,559
valuable.

1260
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:06,870
>> Are there any other funding

1261
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,640
like

1262
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,920
Mitch? Stand up and check in those

1263
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,200
cushions. See if there's some change in

1264
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,280
there. We want to know.

1265
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,720
I'm trying to get some money for this

1266
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,240
guy.

1267
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,000
>> There there's no other funding. And when

1268
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,079
we do identify that funding, we we're

1269
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,760
going to have to go through our citizen

1270
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160
participation plan and put that out

1271
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,319
there and take applications. So that'll

1272
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:30,559
be a process that will happen sometime

1273
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:32,160
early next year.

1274
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,119
>> I have to add to my first time

1275
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,440
getting a detailed report like this

1276
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,880
proceeding.

1277
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,240
>> I'm very open. Imagine if we gave her a

1278
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,240
statement. No, I'm joking. Why you

1279
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,480
taking

1280
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,839
not spending the money?

1281
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:51,760
>> Um, so there's probably there's another

1282
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,960
question that came up, but I just want

1283
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,880
to make sure that um in terms of the

1284
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,480
spend down where it shows if you have

1285
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,240
57,000,

1286
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,839
but then the year to date like 91,000.

1287
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:04,800
So if you just want to give clarity,

1288
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520
>> then there's we spent down 91,000. We

1289
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,960
still have time right now with the

1290
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,200
shutdown. we don't have access to some

1291
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,160
of our draw down systems to to draw down

1292
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,000
the money and then we have some pending

1293
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,160
time sheets that the team is working on

1294
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,480
that will get us closer to to the finish

1295
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,480
line. So that'll happen before the end

1296
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,520
of the year.

1297
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:25,920
>> That's right.

1298
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,119
>> So in terms of um notions but the other

1299
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,079
senior programs um because we don't have

1300
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:32,480
the money

1301
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,680
>> they submit an application.

1302
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,280
No, no. I'm talking about the Catholic

1303
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,280
Charities. Um the the senior lunch

1304
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,359
programs on Mondays and uh Wednesdays

1305
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:42,800
and Friday. Well, actually, it's now

1306
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,800
it's just um Mondays.

1307
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,720
>> Yeah. Monday, Friday.

1308
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,559
>> I mean, I guess I'm not going to worry

1309
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,920
about that right now because it's

1310
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,240
$60,000 or something. It seems like

1311
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,480
maybe we'd be able to figure something

1312
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,280
out as we go forward in terms of finding

1313
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,200
$60,000. Um right. But then that that

1314
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,960
doesn't go through her manual finding

1315
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,200
it.

1316
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,040
>> Well, I just figured we could figure out

1317
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,240
a way to work with her on on

1318
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,880
the just we found money for the youth

1319
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,680
line.

1320
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,520
>> No, I I know I I understand what we just

1321
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:15,839
did.

1322
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:18,559
>> As important the youth line is, it is

1323
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,559
very important for us to fund the city

1324
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,400
to there's no doubt about it. It will

1325
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
have to be something that needs to go

1326
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
back into the budget regarding the

1327
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,400
community,

1328
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,599
>> right? We just have to find the money.

1329
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,359
You could. Well, we were going to do the

1330
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:31,040
golf course first for do the youth

1331
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,559
program. Why couldn't we use the golf

1332
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,720
course revenue to support the seniors?

1333
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:35,760
>> Well, we already have youth.

1334
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,760
>> Let's not

1335
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,200
touch and get out of here. Um, there's

1336
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,960
other thing I asked in the email in

1337
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,400
terms of two agencies. Um, and we asked

1338
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,160
the last time you were here. Do you have

1339
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,040
any updates? the experiment of um

1340
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,319
>> so the the two the two vacancies um that

1341
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,559
my department has identified for our

1342
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:57,440
book

1343
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,520
>> um that we have concerns around will be

1344
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:07,030
the foundation which is $339,300

1345
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,720
um

1346
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,520
and the second organization is the

1347
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,079
Hamilton Hill Art Center which is 1.2 2

1348
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:18,160
million. Now the D

1349
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,359
uh Mitch can join me if you have some,

1350
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:23,839
you know, detailed questions. Mitch has

1351
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:27,119
been working oneonone with both

1352
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,040
organizations I've been involved as well

1353
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,400
of working oneonone. Marie has submitted

1354
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,359
a plan that is not really realistic to

1355
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:37,280
spend this money in time and they don't

1356
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,079
seem to have um the additional funding

1357
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:41,760
that's needed to carry out the project

1358
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,720
that was once identified at this time of

1359
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,200
application to come into to council.

1360
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,559
That doesn't seem to exist with Hamilton

1361
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:52,880
Hill. They are moving forward. They have

1362
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,599
a project manager now and they've

1363
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,920
submitted an updated plan. But with the

1364
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,319
time that we have given them to spend

1365
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:07,440
this money, it is 50/50 from from our lens. Okay. They u Mitch is

1366
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,839
working with them for a backup plan to

1367
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:13,040
maybe instead of doing a new build to do

1368
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,960
the older rehab their existing building

1369
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,359
already. So we have been trying to

1370
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,119
troubleshoot

1371
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:24,880
um troubleshoot.

1372
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,319
So Mitch, you want to give us any

1373
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:27,359
updates on where?

1374
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:31,520
>> Well, we have met with Hamilton Hill and

1375
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,839
I was intro we were introduced to their

1376
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:36,160
project manager who seems very

1377
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,240
confident. Um I just received a copy of

1378
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,799
a meeting yesterday

1379
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:46,559
a bid he wants to send out to for the

1380
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,400
project to get it so they can get ahead

1381
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,200
of it started.

1382
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,920
uh and we will review that and get back

1383
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,480
to him and he's following the the

1384
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720
policies and procedures to give any bits

1385
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,079
to us. So we will end up uh moving that

1386
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:05,280
forward and he or they understand that

1387
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,480
you know the the concern is that you

1388
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,359
know their project manager has said that

1389
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,359
in order to spend the 1 to be sure we

1390
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,680
spend the 1.2 2 million by June 30th

1391
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,520
2026.

1392
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,880
>> He needs about 6 months of construction

1393
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,480
based on his long. So

1394
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,040
if this starts and and that's being

1395
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,720
that's you know making sure that he

1396
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,640
could spend it.

1397
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,000
Uh so if they started on January 1st

1398
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,760
which you know may or may not happen uh

1399
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,119
even if they started February so they

1400
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:43,200
may be able to do it. they they maybe

1401
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,359
they can spend 75%, there's no way to

1402
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:47,440
know, but it's it's going to be cutting

1403
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,920
it very close

1404
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,160
to, you know, by that timeline. There is

1405
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,480
a backup plan if that doesn't seem to

1406
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,520
work for some reason and that is to, you

1407
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,079
know, switch over to repairs on the

1408
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:06,079
their existing building and they're doing a two-track kind of thing

1409
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,200
to see uh how they can go. But that is

1410
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,680
once again, like Alex said, it's 50/50.

1411
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,960
Mhm.

1412
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680
>> I did have an opportunity today to meet

1413
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,079
with Metroplex and we're going to have a

1414
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:19,680
conversation with the Helen Hill and

1415
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,920
Metroplex so they can offer some project

1416
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,839
management support to make sure that the

1417
00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:26,559
project can move forward. Um I'm

1418
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,160
grateful that Metroplex is able to

1419
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,160
support us at that. We don't have the

1420
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,960
capacity to offer full project

1421
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,240
management. So, we are working to try to

1422
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,480
um

1423
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,000
to assist them to make sure that the

1424
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,079
project is able to move forward. I'll

1425
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,040
add this that we gave our subreients one

1426
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,440
date and we gave ourselves a little bit

1427
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760
of time in the event.

1428
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,040
>> Mhm.

1429
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,880
>> Then things stra. So, we do have a

1430
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,440
little bit of fluff time. We have some

1431
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,040
cushion there. Um so, I'm glad that we

1432
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,359
did that contractually. We gave that one

1433
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:06,160
time, but we gave ourselves a little bit

1434
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,160
on top of projects that may be a little

1435
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,799
bit delayed. That was my that was

1436
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,319
actually my question because when we

1437
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,559
initially started this conversation with

1438
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:17,280
the CBDG uh excuse me with the funds we

1439
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160
were allocating, we consistently sent

1440
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,319
people the recipients that they had for

1441
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:24,880
the end of 2026. We said that council

1442
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,440
you said that. We said that. So I I

1443
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,799
believe that some people kind of thought

1444
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:31,520
they had the time and now um it's been

1445
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,520
less than by 6 months to give you time.

1446
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,799
That's well understood. So essentially

1447
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,280
my question is let's say they don't

1448
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,799
quite make it to the end of June. It

1449
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,880
takes them to the end of July. Is there

1450
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,319
still an opportunity to make sure that

1451
01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:44,880
they get

1452
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,559
>> Yeah, there's still an there's still an

1453
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,640
opportunity. If we would have given them

1454
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,240
contracts to the end of the year, they

1455
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,280
would

1456
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,720
>> we don't have enough time to do

1457
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,319
reporting. We don't know what the US

1458
01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:58,240
Treasury is going to ask of us. And by that time comes, we need to have our

1459
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,559
ducks in the ducks in the rough. So

1460
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,559
there there is a little wiggle room, but

1461
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:03,760
there's not much. We're not saying

1462
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,920
there's four additional months because

1463
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,839
we want to give us ourselves time to

1464
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:09,839
compile whatever it is that is going to

1465
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:12,240
be required by Treasury.

1466
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,799
>> Thank you.

1467
01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,920
>> Metroplex um working with Hamilton Hills

1468
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,079
is a great thing. Do you think that um

1469
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,440
that's a conversation you could have

1470
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440
with them to assist maybe with jury as

1471
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,599
well?

1472
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,160
I I'll relax. And what's most important

1473
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,240
is not even Metroplex being willing.

1474
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,240
Metroplex is our partner. So they want

1475
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,720
to support us. It's about our subreient

1476
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,079
being willing to accept that um support.

1477
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,160
So we're

1478
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,559
our subreient

1479
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:42,720
and and do that know that let them know

1480
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,799
that that support is available to them.

1481
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:47,119
I I think that Dor is a different

1482
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:50,640
situation though because the funding for

1483
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,720
that project and Mitch can touch on that

1484
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,160
is not really aligned

1485
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,119
as as at the time of of application. So

1486
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:00,799
when they applied for it, they said they

1487
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:02,960
had XYZ funding. They've had a

1488
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,960
transition in leadership and she's

1489
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,079
identified that she doesn't know. I'll

1490
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,599
let Mitch elaborate. So I've met with

1491
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:14,160
Reverend Solomon of De Foundation

1492
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,720
multiple times and uh

1493
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,920
she was not even aware of this in early

1494
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,720
25 that they even had this.

1495
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,359
>> Uh so they did you know start moving

1496
01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:28,880
forward and try and do some things and

1497
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,520
they ran into some snags.

1498
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,559
She did you know reach a lady back on uh

1499
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:37,359
September 19th. I asked her for a

1500
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:39,839
revised scope of work and revised budget

1501
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:42,160
to see how it fits and she didn't do

1502
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,839
revised budget of $128,000 of the

1503
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,160
$339,000.

1504
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Uh however it doesn't really meet the so

1505
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,960
the initial funding that we that the uh

1506
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:00,880
city was funding them for provided some repairs and upgrades and furniture

1507
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,520
to get their steps program started uh

1508
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,680
which is a pretty comprehensive program

1509
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,119
and that was supposed to have their

1510
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,520
timeline here and they were supposed to

1511
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,839
start construction

1512
01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:14,240
uh in January and June construction will

1513
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,000
be done and we were going to fund the

1514
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,240
programming for a full year after

1515
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,280
uh this you know new funding which this

1516
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,359
new application obvious budget will not

1517
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:30,880
obviously

1518
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,400
fund a year's worth of

1519
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,839
uh work and the idea was that so they

1520
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:41,119
have 18 months basically of some you

1521
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,440
know equipment and upgrades and then a

1522
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
year's worth of a total of you know a

1523
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,039
year's worth six months rehab and

1524
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:52,079
equipment and 12 months of

1525
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,039
funding to get the program going. That

1526
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,680
would give them the impetus to continue

1527
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,680
to, you know, raise funds and and work

1528
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,599
to, you know, make sure it gets

1529
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:02,880
continued.

1530
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,559
>> They will not have that there. And I

1531
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:05,359
don't know how much they can

1532
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:07,680
realistically do in a six-month time

1533
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,680
frame between now, you know, six or

1534
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,200
eight month time frame between now and

1535
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,880
June.

1536
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,520
>> And not to get Norwegian, so this would

1537
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,119
be the last question around this. I know

1538
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:19,039
that. No, but I just I think that this

1539
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:20,720
might be a little more granular than we

1540
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,680
want to get.

1541
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,000
>> So, if I'm understanding correctly, then

1542
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,839
there's money that was going to go into

1543
01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:28,559
the like some construction of a place to

1544
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,039
house the program and then we were going

1545
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:35,359
to support said programming, right? So,

1546
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:38,640
would it be impactful for them? And I

1547
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,920
think there's something obviously they

1548
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,880
can help reach out to like if they if

1549
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,480
they found a partner that could provide

1550
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,640
them with a programming space that

1551
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,720
wouldn't require construction, would

1552
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,319
that help them or no? I guess I'm trying

1553
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:51,520
to figure out.

1554
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,119
>> They

1555
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:57,119
don't have the programming gear to go.

1556
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,680
>> Okay. Are you okay? That's, you know,

1557
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,839
they did put in their new budget project

1558
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:02,960
manager

1559
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,039
>> to try and get things started.

1560
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,440
>> Mhm. But once again, you know, you're

1561
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,920
starting a program from from scratch and

1562
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,000
you know, Megan Solomon was not involved

1563
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,480
in the initial planning. So, she's

1564
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,079
coming in, you know, really fresh and

1565
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:23,839
>> Oh, okay. I I think I know. Okay.

1566
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,319
>> So, the program was supposedly already

1567
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:26,880
going.

1568
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,960
>> Yeah. Yeah. Pastor Nikki. Yeah. She was

1569
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:47,109
Okay. The special meeting with him.

1570
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,119
Sorry guys,

1571
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:50,880
I'm trying to propose myself to this one

1572
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,480
because

1573
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,760
I advocate for them to receive $525,000

1574
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,280
from the county to do the construction

1575
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,559
with another $75,000 to do the exterior

1576
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,799
and we're falling apart because we can't

1577
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:07,680
put put program together to manage a

1578
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,000
328,000 models.

1579
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,720
>> Mhm.

1580
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,480
>> I

1581
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,079
can say it came off.

1582
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:16,400
>> Yeah. I I think that's something that

1583
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,319
seems like there's some key pieces

1584
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:20,240
missing that we might but I know where

1585
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,359
you're going. So I think maybe a

1586
01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:22,400
conversation

1587
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,319
>> that's

1588
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,000
any other question. Thank you so much.

1589
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,680
Uh thank you Mitch. Any other questions?

1590
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,000
>> No.

1591
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,359
Is there anything that you want to tell

1592
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:37,280
us that you don't really ask?

1593
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,079
>> No.

1594
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,480
>> I like that. There you open yourself

1595
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,160
more question.

1596
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,400
>> Thank you.

1597
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,039
so much for good guidance

1598
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:47,599
today.

1599
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,119
>> Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you

1600
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:58,470
both.

1601
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:11,670
» Cheers.

1602
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,640
evening. How you doing? All right. Sorry

1603
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,359
to get you all sweating

1604
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:19,280
and blame it for the department. Ask me

1605
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,920
too many questions.

1606
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,280
>> They know that.

1607
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,400
>> Oh,

1608
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,359
>> they would not find that.

1609
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:30,720
>> I would. Um so we have two questions on

1610
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,680
revenue.

1611
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,799
Hopefully Connor doesn't have that.

1612
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:38,319
>> The one has to do with following the

1613
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:40,319
email that we were sharing in terms of

1614
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:44,000
the um the delinquent um delinquent

1615
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,280
parking tickets.

1616
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,960
>> Mhm. that um we split

1617
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,319
recovery is working with your team to

1618
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:55,680
kind of speed ahead that and um looking

1619
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,240
at the actuals it's kind of like in my

1620
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,280
eyes it looks on the competition we had

1621
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,640
last year and how can we able to round

1622
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,839
that up to get some higher numbers in

1623
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:11,039
next next year. So currently in year to

1624
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:15,680
date right now as of yesterday or today

1625
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,880
um we've had

1626
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:24,229
we had $130,64.95

1627
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,960
of outstanding tickets paid if tickets

1628
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,839
that's $1,593

1629
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:34,960
tickets paid uh the oldest ticket was

1630
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,799
issued March 20th of 2000.

1631
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:41,920
And the most recent one was 6 months.

1632
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,839
Anything delinquent has got 6 months or

1633
01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:45,120
more in order to be considered

1634
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,239
delinquent. The

1635
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,880
um

1636
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,480
November of 2024 is when we started

1637
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,120
working with uh Captain Montgomery. So

1638
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,239
that's when the first uh 44,000 I think

1639
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,279
tickets went out. And uh last year, I

1640
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,759
can't remember what the um the number

1641
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:08,719
was, but we they're we're not paying

1642
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:10,560
anything to them. They're adding above

1643
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,799
and beyond what we're

1644
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:16,390
charged.

1645
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,920
It's a percentage of what they do.

1646
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,759
>> Yeah. We've collected $13,64.

1647
01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:24,319
They've collected $32,961

1648
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:26,880
above and beyond what we've collected.

1649
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,080
um that was what they've they charge for

1650
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,159
and lose any of our actual revenue for

1651
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:34,880
it and

1652
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,359
there I don't know there's maybe other

1653
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,199
options for another collection agency

1654
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:41,600
possibly but there's that's really

1655
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,239
nothing that I don't know how other way

1656
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:46,400
to do right now we don't actually do any

1657
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,319
of this work it goes from which is our

1658
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,759
agency goes right from there to uh

1659
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:55,920
McGomery and they handle everything for

1660
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,000
us So there's no city involvement as far

1661
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,400
as that goes and they just mailed the

1662
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,480
letters out. We've let the uh they let

1663
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:05,040
the fees and we pay down the agreement

1664
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,400
that we have with can take on board

1665
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,679
recovery agency.

1666
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:12,080
>> We I haven't heard exclusive

1667
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,159
>> uh I believe it's going to be exclusive.

1668
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:16,560
I don't know when we'd have to check the

1669
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,040
law department on that but I might be

1670
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,400
able to get a copy of it as well. But um

1671
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,080
we signed it in

1672
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,159
probably 3 years ago, four years ago. It

1673
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,640
took that long

1674
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,239
a long time to go in.

1675
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:35,280
>> It very well could be expiring be out,

1676
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,000
but um we can definitely find out when

1677
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,600
the when the contract expired.

1678
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,120
So from the time of Tuesday

1679
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,960
the October 14. So it's like $8,000

1680
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,640
more in the last actual provider to me.

1681
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,679
So now that's you know they keep they

1682
01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:59,040
keep adding on to the amount just you

1683
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,080
spoke about yesterday

1684
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,480
8 hours

1685
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:08,719
in a 6 days 7 days period. Well, the

1686
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:11,199
whole question is um

1687
01:11:11,199 --> 01:11:13,040
the revenue that we have in the budget

1688
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,920
for 2020 is $170,000.

1689
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,480
I was thinking that soon because they

1690
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:20,239
started last year, they're ramping up a

1691
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:22,719
lot

1692
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:25,760
more and work with them to be more

1693
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,840
aggressive in terms of pushing all the

1694
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,320
ticket as much as they can rather than

1695
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,280
leaving them. Okay, take it from there.

1696
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,800
But we want to make more of a hands-on

1697
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,800
approach and say guys give us a report

1698
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,280
every every two week every month or

1699
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,120
where you are and we need to kind of

1700
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,320
like ramp it up.

1701
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,239
>> Is that something that

1702
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:46,480
>> adding more uh work on your side?

1703
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:48,320
>> So not there's really not much we can do

1704
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,560
from our side with capital recovery.

1705
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,800
They're just they mount letters out. Um

1706
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,239
they I think they do eight or nine

1707
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:56,159
series letters. So they they run all the

1708
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:58,560
data. They m letters out. I don't know

1709
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,360
if they don't make phone calls. I just

1710
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,360
they constantly amount of letters out.

1711
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,679
Um the only other thing that we do is we

1712
01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:08,800
run decals internally. So we all these

1713
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,600
license plates are put into our LPRs. So

1714
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,280
our officers have to drive around the

1715
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,880
parking officers. If there's um $300 or

1716
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,320
more tickets like the go off, if the

1717
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,760
officers are not on call, they might

1718
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,840
stop the officer or might stop the car

1719
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,320
or um in the morning the traffic

1720
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,400
officers go out. Um I think

1721
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,520
>> yeah I wasn't going to touch I wasn't

1722
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,760
going to touch on that

1723
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:34,560
any

1724
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,159
>> I do have that right I just got this

1725
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:41,520
information so this year so I believe we

1726
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,480
ran 27 details

1727
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:49,600
>> um we've had 414

1728
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,920
vehicles that were towed 44

1729
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,800
vehicles so some of those are old some

1730
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,000
of those are new vehicles as far

1731
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,520
um scoffs as far as like some of them

1732
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
that's people that owe $300 or more. The

1733
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,080
total revenue that I brought in from

1734
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,920
that some of the people may not have

1735
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,760
paid um but the total outstanding

1736
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,360
tickets was $218,953

1737
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:22,310
from those and that cost us $24,26.

1738
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,159
» I'm sorry. $24, I guess.

1739
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:25,520
>> $26.

1740
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,310
>> Thank you. No. Um

1741
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,159
218,000.

1742
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:35,280
>> So 227 stock details, 414 vehicles

1743
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,159
towed, 218,953

1744
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,360
recovered, 24,26 in overtime, and then

1745
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,000
gain of 1947.

1746
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,880
When I say net gain, it's a gain.

1747
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,800
However, it's money owed to the city. So

1748
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,800
we're really paying the overtime, but

1749
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,800
it's money the city already is owed

1750
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,040
anyway. So saying that gain however

1751
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,320
we're paying to get the revenue back.

1752
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,640
>> Yeah. When you look at it, we we have

1753
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,480
the money set aside to pay for the over

1754
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:08,560
time recovery of $280,000 because if you

1755
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,360
didn't do that effort, that $280,000

1756
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,400
will be still out.

1757
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:12,719
>> Yes.

1758
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:14,239
So that's 280

1759
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:18,800
>> almost 219,000. Yeah. 28. So, going back

1760
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,189
to the

1761
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:26,000
» Would it be safe for us to

1762
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,400
$500,000?

1763
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,960
>> $500,000.

1764
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,960
>> I

1765
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,630
got

1766
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,280
so much more.

1767
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,960
>> So, I would No, no, talking about the

1768
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,679
delinquent parking, but the recovery

1769
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:46,239
not the delinquent. I would say you're

1770
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:49,920
more apt to increase actual parking

1771
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,239
tickets or uh themselves. Not maybe not

1772
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,800
the delinquent part. The delinquents are

1773
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,920
6 months old and over. That's

1774
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,960
>> so even though we we ran,000 k in $20

1775
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,440
and something,000

1776
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:09,040
of that 200 something,000 only 130,000

1777
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,199
of it has been 6 months total. Okay. So

1778
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,679
that 130 debts included in that too. So

1779
01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:17,520
the rest of that money it's been 6

1780
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,000
months to renew. So some people just I

1781
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,560
don't want to go too off track

1782
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,280
and throw at you.

1783
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:31,510
Don't want to read the whole

1784
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,040
» I'm sorry. Can you just tell me the old

1785
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,679
the one over 6 months was

1786
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:40,640
>> uh over 6 months it is

1787
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,430
130,64.95

1788
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,280
6 months how we're back not

1789
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,159
>> back to 2000

1790
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:51,120
>> oh to 2000

1791
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,760
>> yeah we had three tickets from 2000 and

1792
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,040
then

1793
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,120
>> Louise 2003

1794
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:02,080
>> five from 2001 from 2003 when that was a

1795
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,199
He just

1796
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:05,760
>> when we were when we were going through

1797
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,840
the report last year,

1798
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,440
>> we had we were we were looking at a few

1799
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:13,679
million dollars of that and we think

1800
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:16,159
it's like we can recover.

1801
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:17,679
>> Not the one that's 10 years old and

1802
01:16:17,679 --> 01:16:19,520
things like that. Those are like way

1803
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,159
beyond

1804
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:26,149
anybody's reach.

1805
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,790
» Wait, what are we doing?

1806
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,510
No, we're good.

1807
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,440
» So, right now the, you know, for those 3

1808
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:43,120
years, so money that is 3 years old or

1809
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:49,350
less is1,252,285.

1810
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,560
1.25 million is 3 years or less. That is

1811
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:57,280
the the highest chance of recovery. Um

1812
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,960
if you go out a total of

1813
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:06,080
uh 10 years and older just 10 years and

1814
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,400
one line alone there is uh 41,000

1815
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,000
tickets that are 10 years and older and

1816
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,880
that is like uh

1817
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,239
that money going to say mobile size fact

1818
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:23,600
that we got money we have 200 this year

1819
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,120
we

1820
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,320
>> $180

1821
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,520
from 2000 most likely.

1822
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,440
>> So, is there is there like so if the

1823
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:35,360
public knows that, hey, you know, we're

1824
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,080
going out to get these funds owed to the

1825
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,520
city. Um, is there like a I mean besides

1826
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,360
having to call down putting Is there

1827
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,760
like is there any like maybe like on an

1828
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,280
app or something where people can just

1829
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,120
enter in their I don't know if it would

1830
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,199
be their license or their car, you know,

1831
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:53,360
maybe their tag number because I'm

1832
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,840
thinking that some people go, "Oh, I got

1833
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,560
a ticket. I got to pay it." If we if we

1834
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:03,600
have a a simplified way for them to to access that information and then it

1835
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,840
doesn't cost the manh hours as it can

1836
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760
reduce some of the manh hours to collect

1837
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,199
some of that money. Is there a way to

1838
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:10,880
>> Yes, they can call in at any time or

1839
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,000
there's a website they want to put their license plate in on the

1840
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,080
website. It's I don't want to say I

1841
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,560
think it's six connectity what's on the

1842
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,000
main site but pay or something like that

1843
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,000
and then the license plate didn't be

1844
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,440
able to pay and that'll go for all of

1845
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:27,520
the ticket not moving violations though

1846
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,040
that just be parking.

1847
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,960
>> Okay. All right. So um so if like

1848
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,550
somebody has

1849
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,480
and they you know they take part

1850
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:43,280
with tickets also show off they

1851
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,679
>> uh that would be

1852
01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:47,280
>> I don't know

1853
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,600
>> that I do not know

1854
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,440
>> I don't well I don't have one so

1855
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:56,560
>> no so when you put something in your

1856
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,320
passport and you get a ticket that

1857
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,080
doesn't show up on

1858
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,600
under your parking fines.

1859
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,719
>> So guess the same this is the same

1860
01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:07,120
system. So I'm guessing that it probably

1861
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,239
is but I'm not sure

1862
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:13,679
that goes back to 2000 or go back four

1863
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:15,040
or five years ago

1864
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,320
>> cuz before passport it was plus.

1865
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,120
>> So some of our reporting when you go

1866
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,040
back four years ago or say five years

1867
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,760
ago the reporting sides changed. So that

1868
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,480
probably is when you go back to the 5

1869
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,719
years.

1870
01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:35,520
>> No, I don't think 5 years. I meant like

1871
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,480
>> recent.

1872
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,000
>> Yeah.

1873
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,080
>> So probably show up this way. If you if

1874
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,080
you have a ticket can go with the

1875
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,760
passport to pay for new parking or pay

1876
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,590
new parking spot.

1877
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,960
» You provide optimum pre 1.2 million.

1878
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,280
>> Yes.

1879
01:19:53,280 --> 01:20:08,950
>> Do you have a number up to five years?

1880
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,760
That includes the doubling of the

1881
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:21,990
doubles

1882
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,880
through four years is 1.48. 48 million.

1883
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,679
>> Okay.

1884
01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:31,440
>> What is a billing point?

1885
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:35,590
>> 141,48,614.

1886
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:36,239
» Okay.

1887
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:47,750
>> And then you add that fifth year

1888
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:56,709
is 1,671,244.

1889
01:20:56,719 --> 01:20:58,480
And when you add an entire thing

1890
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:02,000
together as far back as our records go,

1891
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,760
>> um that's the 10 years and all the way

1892
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:08,000
back is everything. It's 5.25.

1893
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,120
>> We need that right though. I suppos

1894
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,400
>> some of those people are

1895
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,520
>> Yes.

1896
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,400
>> They might have been deceased or you

1897
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,679
know moved.

1898
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:21,040
>> Yes. We can't.

1899
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,280
>> Well, this recovery first started

1900
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,239
November of last year.

1901
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,560
>> November 2024

1902
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,960
since the first tickets got mailed out

1903
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,000
and then from that we've got it was last

1904
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,440
year. It was very low. Um because the

1905
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:37,040
first ticket started went out. I can't

1906
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,199
remember what the the final revenue was.

1907
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,760
Very low. But so far this year we've got

1908
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,719
the 130,000 so far this year. Um and

1909
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:46,159
it's it's gathering basically. We still

1910
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:48,320
have two more months to go. So hopefully

1911
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,800
we'll we'll continue to to see that and

1912
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,719
every time ticket gets 6 months old and

1913
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,199
older, it automatically triggers that

1914
01:21:57,199 --> 01:21:59,520
they start that flexing process. So

1915
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,280
right now

1916
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,360
um 31 to 60 days old. We have 588

1917
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,679
tickets at a total base value of 29,000

1918
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:12,159
with a penalties of 29,000.

1919
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,760
the total value of 59,165.

1920
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,120
And then in 61 to 90 days, we have 634

1921
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,040
tickets outstanding with a total value

1922
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,960
of 65,000.

1923
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,239
91 to 80 days, 192 tickets for a total

1924
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,880
value of 194,000. So as these tickets

1925
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,960
become older, if we don't get them

1926
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,040
through the SC details or people come in

1927
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,960
and pay them, those tickets become

1928
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,120
delinquent and large amount out and that

1929
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,960
will become in this revenue instead of

1930
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,159
our regular revenue. But our parking

1931
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:48,080
revenue is um the highest spend ever

1932
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,600
just because our our parking guys are

1933
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,360
out there really doing

1934
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,840
>> I think we did talk about this when I

1935
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,480
show up DMV. When would this report to

1936
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:58,000
DMV

1937
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:03,600
>> that um I don't have the answer to that?

1938
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,239
>> Okay.

1939
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:07,760
>> It's not uh that the law has changed

1940
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,600
over the last couple years. So, as far

1941
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,320
as the fines go as far as it being just

1942
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,600
a fine, they don't I don't believe they

1943
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,679
do go unless there's other kind of FBI

1944
01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:22,000
circumstances. I don't know what.

1945
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,679
>> But overall, I mean, starting last

1946
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:25,760
November and the effort, I mean, this

1947
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,480
year $130,000 and we still have two

1948
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:30,880
months to do. It's a good effort, I

1949
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,120
still sense the feeling that um we're

1950
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,719
going to do better next year because

1951
01:23:34,719 --> 01:23:36,159
people going to get these tickets more

1952
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:37,760
often. They're going to get the letter

1953
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:47,840
repeated letters and they're going to pay it. So I I think a better perfection into next year might

1954
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,120
be a better you know

1955
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,040
better better for revenue in terms of

1956
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,560
how we we have right now $170,000

1957
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,719
cuz

1958
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:03,120
let's say you collect $150,000 this year

1959
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,120
next year going to be people going

1960
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,480
they're going to start pay they realize

1961
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:07,679
that they're getting this letter now it

1962
01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:10,000
never used to happen all of a sudden I'm

1963
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,920
getting letter to notify me that I was

1964
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,239
planning to keep a sing. So I need to

1965
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:17,520
pay for it

1966
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,000
for now.

1967
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,880
>> So So it's likely going to kind of like

1968
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,400
>> increase up for a little while, then

1969
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,239
it'll peak and then

1970
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,159
>> we'll it'll start to go down a little

1971
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:27,600
bit, but to your point right now it's

1972
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,280
trending up. So you're saying

1973
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,920
>> to maybe increase that line a little bit

1974
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,080
because of it's trending up.

1975
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,560
because people are getting they the

1976
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,760
agency is sending out letters notifying

1977
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,760
individual that they have outstanding

1978
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:42,400
tickets.

1979
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,000
>> So what are you thinking now after

1980
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,840
hearing that? What do you think?

1981
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:52,950
>> Not $500,000.

1982
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,280
I have I have to push him off.

1983
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,560
>> She's about to go out there right now

1984
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:03,430
and start.

1985
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:06,400
» All right.

1986
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,440
So, it's good information. That's why I ask you to come back here

1987
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:09,920
because

1988
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,719
>> right while they're here,

1989
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:13,280
>> we can sit here. We can sit here and you

1990
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,199
know say our you know come up with our

1991
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:17,199
estimate but it's good to hear that

1992
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:18,719
where you are and this is the detail

1993
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:20,560
that we need. So that is good

1994
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,760
information and we'll we'll take that

1995
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,199
into consideration. And the next one I

1996
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,920
want to touch on is that the followup uh

1997
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,800
email the second I think the same email

1998
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,760
second page in terms of the detail and

1999
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,080
the 3:00 a.m. to 7 um

2000
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:40,560
7 a.m. detail and the the estimate that

2001
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,030
you put there I call

2002
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,560
um how often are they doing this? So it

2003
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,440
is every day.

2004
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,199
>> Those are the those are the calls. We

2005
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:52,880
call it scoff law detail. It's not

2006
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,560
really a scoff law. We just call it we

2007
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,280
call it 27 times uh in 2025 year to

2008
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,920
date. And

2009
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,719
uh it's usually we have three two or

2010
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:08,000
three officers working.

2011
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,320
I think typically three looks like three

2012
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,239
almost every time actually. um that

2013
01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:16,400
times I think that we worked in but uh

2014
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,840
we had 414 vehicles were towed. We

2015
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,830
recovered uh $218,953

2016
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,960
in outstanding tickets.

2017
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,600
We spent $24,26

2018
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:32,960
on overtime.

2019
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,199
>> 20 Oh, that's the same as you already

2020
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,480
told us that. Okay. For everyone else,

2021
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:41,520
the city got back at approximately $95

2022
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:46,800
back in return. The um

2023
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,600
the due to the staffing strength was 27

2024
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,040
details uh that we wanted to run. If we

2025
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,719
were to do it again next year, we got

2026
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:59,760
80% coverage in 2026. If we ran 42

2027
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,320
details and we did the same thing if we

2028
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,320
ran to approximately 644 vehicles we

2029
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,310
take in approximately $340,000

2030
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,550
would cost us about $37,600

2031
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,239
projected net of $32,000

2032
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:19,679
as a

2033
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:22,880
>> where is this accounted in the revenue

2034
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,440
so the um

2035
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:29,280
>> the regular revenue is included in the

2036
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,520
uh regular parking box.

2037
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:32,239
>> Yeah, parking.

2038
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:32,880
>> Okay, that's

2039
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,320
>> so that's the 200,000 for the shoot, but

2040
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,040
I did not include any extra parking. So,

2041
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,320
if we were to say more parking, we could

2042
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,239
uh definitely put another 100,000 in

2043
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:46,560
there. I would just stay there. We would

2044
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,960
be spending another 17,000 in overtime

2045
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,600
here from what overall we spent this

2046
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:57,669
year in for

2047
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:00,080
» but overall we are not losing against

2048
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:05,199
except for gaining almost 10 time

2049
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,679
$100,000 by spending $17,000. That's

2050
01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:10,320
what it's about over the last two years

2051
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,000
is what he's been in traffic. Do you see

2052
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,520
this as something that we can do more

2053
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,040
often?

2054
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,040
>> As long as we can get the guys to go out

2055
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,800
and do it, then yes. This is something

2056
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,320
we done in the last couple years and it

2057
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:25,840
was

2058
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,679
over the last few years that hasn't been

2059
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:29,280
done

2060
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,480
consistently last year. Uh it started to

2061
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:35,440
be a little bit tenant traffic is is

2062
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:38,159
very organized and does very good job.

2063
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:42,000
So now it's it's uh when he plans it. So

2064
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,440
what he actually does ahead of time just

2065
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,480
goes around and

2066
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:48,880
out there. He go finds all the vehicles

2067
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,159
that have been hit or the heaviest finds

2068
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:54,000
the ones that have the most the most

2069
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,000
money that are

2070
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,679
the guys that owes the most money.

2071
01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:03,990
There's 27 detail.

2072
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,800
Oh, what is the time span between that?

2073
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,199
Still six months, three months. Uh, we

2074
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:12,800
did one January 9th, one January 15th.

2075
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,159
So, it was from January 9th.

2076
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:17,520
>> Yeah. Two a month.

2077
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,159
>> Two months.

2078
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:22,800
Two a month. Now, bear in mind, I just

2079
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,560
want to say this that we recogn

2080
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,600
recognized that we can 10x our effort

2081
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,239
here. But when we gave our budget

2082
01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:35,120
request for this year, we only we only

2083
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,040
budget it. We only asked for what we

2084
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,840
felt could cover twice a month.

2085
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,120
>> So we we have to the resources that

2086
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,040
we're given, we have to balance them out

2087
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,960
really for our core mission to protect

2088
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,040
life and property, not necessarily

2089
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,040
revenue generation. Of course, we'll do

2090
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,280
whatever you ask us to do. So if you

2091
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,520
want us to do more, we do over time to

2092
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,560
reflect that

2093
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,199
>> so we can pay the officers. So within

2094
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:02,159
the period of January to February 20 27

2095
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:12,950
retail and you recover almost 201

2096
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,550
January

2097
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,000
» two per month

2098
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,920
>> I know I was excited. So we did three in

2099
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,920
January, three in February, two in

2100
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,440
March,

2101
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:27,360
uh three in April,

2102
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,320
>> three, one in June, two in July.

2103
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,040
>> Okay.

2104
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,629
>> Well, yeah.

2105
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:35,520
See,

2106
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,440
>> so you're doing it based on

2107
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:40,320
availability, based on officers taking

2108
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,800
off time within that period of time.

2109
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,440
3:00 a.m. 7 a.m.

2110
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:47,120
>> That's primarily time.

2111
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,600
>> That's all.

2112
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,280
>> Go ahead.

2113
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,560
and have so it has to be over time. So

2114
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,360
uh officers who are on the regular shift

2115
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,880
and not I won't say in the downtime but

2116
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,040
like in between time

2117
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,639
>> so they can support our parking officers

2118
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:06,080
do it during the daytime when they're

2119
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,760
working that's they definitely do that.

2120
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,920
Our officers if they are working and

2121
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,320
they have downtime they can right now on

2122
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,239
midnights um they have an assignment

2123
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:15,600
where they are doing parking tickets

2124
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,320
overnight. Um we've got some complaints

2125
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:19,920
from that cuz they are they have picked

2126
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,040
up their Oh yes,

2127
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,040
>> they have picked up their parking. They

2128
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,239
are uh they are doing pretty aggressive

2129
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:28,000
parking and if they come across any

2130
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,840
scaffolds

2131
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,520
more of a targeted where he goes through

2132
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:36,149
and finds the people that have

2133
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:37,840
basically go through and finds him and

2134
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,360
then take a while to get they line up

2135
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,800
the tow truck ahead of time so they're

2136
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,280
not waiting. So they're letting the

2137
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:44,960
truck drivers know, hey, we're giving

2138
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,480
Scott detail tonight. Can you have a

2139
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:48,800
couple extra drivers on? Let drivers

2140
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,560
know, hey, you're doing it. And then he

2141
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,719
lines up the the tow companies and lets

2142
01:31:52,719 --> 01:31:54,159
everybody know we're going how we're

2143
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,280
doing it. So, it's it's like a

2144
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,600
mission.

2145
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,600
>> It's so

2146
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,600
I was just going to say that there is

2147
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,760
there are some tensions to balance here.

2148
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,840
>> Right. Right. So, I mean, and and

2149
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,159
because I know we're seeing dollar signs

2150
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:12,880
and I'm like, "Oh, but I I want to be

2151
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,560
>> just be mindful that we don't want to

2152
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,280
make up our entire, you know, uh uh

2153
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,120
we're not trying to look out of our

2154
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,600
entire deficit, well, perceived deficit

2155
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,760
right now on for ticketing. I think that

2156
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,080
that's a low it it can get to a point

2157
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:30,560
where it be it is feels predatory on the

2158
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,800
people that live here which then will

2159
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,800
really put our uh officers in a tough

2160
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,480
position as we're still trying to

2161
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:40,719
maintain and build strong community

2162
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:41,920
partnerships. So we have that's

2163
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,679
something we have to keep in mind.

2164
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:46,880
>> That's the priority $300 plus.

2165
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,920
>> These are only 300 plus. We do not tow

2166
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,120
less than that.

2167
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,440
>> Um, just because that's the number you

2168
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:54,719
see that's how much the tow is. So,

2169
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:56,239
we're not take doing that. If somebody

2170
01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:58,719
does come out and they have they want to

2171
01:32:58,719 --> 01:33:00,480
pay it, they can they can pay it. We

2172
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,400
forward them load right through their

2173
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:03,840
through the app. They can they can do

2174
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,440
that. So, we're not taking somebody's

2175
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,760
car if they they do want to pay that

2176
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:12,880
>> and they receive uh right to the uh the

2177
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,639
formula that we can see. We can see how

2178
01:33:14,639 --> 01:33:16,320
many times and the dates that they

2179
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:17,920
received letters and how many contacts

2180
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,520
they had prior. So somebody said they

2181
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,719
didn't know about it.

2182
01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:22,560
>> We can see the letter that they received

2183
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,120
and how many times. So typically, you

2184
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,080
know, it's um they got received the

2185
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,159
ticket, received a notice that it was

2186
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:33,120
going to double. Then it's they've

2187
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,800
typically see four or five notices

2188
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,960
before we're actually taking a car at

2189
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,800
time. So there's they've received many

2190
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,320
notices before. It's not we're not just

2191
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:47,679
don't show that detail and just taking

2192
01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:51,120
>> people know that we're

2193
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,639
never they don't they're not happy about

2194
01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:54,960
it. They they don't

2195
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,440
>> and it's had the bad the benefit of

2196
01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,199
getting around is pay your ticket when

2197
01:33:59,199 --> 01:33:59,679
you get it.

2198
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:00,800
>> People start paying rent.

2199
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,480
>> So it's it's a balance and the more we

2200
01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:07,679
do the less opportunity you'll have too.

2201
01:34:07,679 --> 01:34:10,159
Any question

2202
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:11,600
for you? This is good information. Thank

2203
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:11,840
you.

2204
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:12,719
>> I thought we had something about speed

2205
01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:14,080
cameras, didn't we? Didn't you ask

2206
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,280
something about speed cameras you was

2207
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,040
asking?

2208
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,719
>> Yeah, you had a question about that

2209
01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:26,950
revenue and it was based on

2210
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,560
» Yes, we do. So, we paid for $2.3 million

2211
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,440
for the free damage. Yes. But the

2212
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:37,669
monster went open.

2213
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:40,000
So I just threw a yard out there and I

2214
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,750
go

2215
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,870
» for for you.

2216
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,520
So instead of looking to hand out

2217
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,719
everybody has it

2218
01:34:54,719 --> 01:34:56,960
the easiest way I'll explain it once

2219
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,600
everybody has it just but this is with

2220
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,719
the help of a vendor the name of that

2221
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:04,800
but I think

2222
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,520
that we had a demo with that we were

2223
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,000
thinking about using

2224
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,070
okay the

2225
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,440
stats

2226
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,560
Um they give us with the averages of

2227
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,159
what um

2228
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:25,920
the cities like ours need this

2229
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,320
the say that typically

2230
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,960
uh we so in the legislation that has not

2231
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:32,960
been signed yet. So I'm not sure if

2232
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,040
that's I have a copy of that but that

2233
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,520
has not been signed. It's made it

2234
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,000
through both houses but it has not been

2235
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,790
signed.

2236
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,360
In there it says the city of Skenctity

2237
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,760
if approved would have 20 up to 20

2238
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,639
zones. So the zones could be 20 should

2239
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:54,080
be two different ways. So the

2240
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,600
average this is a conservative average

2241
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,159
>> for a city our size compared to what

2242
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:02,719
they do. They do these across the US and

2243
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:05,760
other countries as well. But uh be 400

2244
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,760
tickets per both directions per month.

2245
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:10,080
Mhm.

2246
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,880
>> They have a the tickets are $50 if paid

2247
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,679
um this amount of time and those have a

2248
01:36:17,679 --> 01:36:19,840
60% collection rate.

2249
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:20,320
>> Wow.

2250
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:24,320
>> Then they escalate to a $75

2251
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,000
payment and then there's a 10%

2252
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,159
collection rate on that and then there's

2253
01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:30,960
30% that stay uncollected or over time

2254
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,880
they slowly trickle in. Then so on here

2255
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,560
I put the the numbers of 240, 40, 120.

2256
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,600
So then we this is still would be

2257
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,840
negotiation but I'm putting in their

2258
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,440
assumption of 50% of the city share that

2259
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:50,880
it's per direction. So each direction we

2260
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,360
would receive 6,000500

2261
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,480
and then get 4500 collected which sit

2262
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:57,840
there and we would have discussions like

2263
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:58,960
on how we're going to collect that

2264
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,840
money. um multiply that up by the 20

2265
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,600
zones

2266
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,800
uh each direction and the 9 months a

2267
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,280
year of these options and that's where

2268
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,920
I'm getting this 20 2 million 2.1

2269
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,440
million 540,000 and then the 1.6 million

2270
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:18,480
over there in line and then down below

2271
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:22,159
was 2.7 for 9 2.4 four for eight if and

2272
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:24,400
if it didn't come right away if the

2273
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,159
legislation or the bill was not signed

2274
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:27,840
until later on.

2275
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,920
>> And now there is you can also run it for

2276
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,159
schools that run summer school. You can

2277
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:34,960
run it

2278
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,639
>> for those or any schools that have

2279
01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:38,400
activities that are school related in

2280
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,320
the summertime. So you can run it for

2281
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:41,920
more months than that.

2282
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:42,719
>> You can or you can

2283
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:44,320
>> you can Yes. Yep. You can run it year

2284
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,480
round or any anytime that a school

2285
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:48,560
function is in place. So you can run it,

2286
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,280
but the most places

2287
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,639
I'm very conservative and with the

2288
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:56,960
assumption of 9 months.

2289
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,600
>> The council mayor may decide not to go

2290
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,600
with 20 zones. We have a list of all the

2291
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,520
schools. So depending on where everybody

2292
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,000
wants to see them, you may go with not

2293
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,199
20 zones or it may not make sense to do

2294
01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:11,199
>> both directions and some schools might

2295
01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:13,360
make sense to only go one way instead of

2296
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,800
going both ways. M.

2297
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,199
>> So that's where I came up with the 2.3.

2298
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:20,400
I took these numbers and then I dropped

2299
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,480
them down. So just in case there was

2300
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:24,639
some

2301
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:26,400
higher than these obviously those in the

2302
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,840
papers and you know um but these are

2303
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,679
this is where the numbers started from

2304
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:34,639
before I brought them just because I

2305
01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:37,520
don't want you guys later on that.

2306
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,199
>> Okay. So in Albany there's So I I think

2307
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:44,639
I remember reading that like people were

2308
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:48,000
challenging the tickets and they were

2309
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,760
being successful and challenging based

2310
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,600
on how those tickets were issued. Is

2311
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,520
that like something that you're aware of

2312
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,239
that?

2313
01:38:54,239 --> 01:38:57,040
>> So that I don't know about those as far

2314
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,440
as more like bus patrol. I know you guys

2315
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,199
question those as well. The bus patrol

2316
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:02,400
tickets. Those were

2317
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,239
>> Oh, I was talking about the school speed

2318
01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:07,920
zone tickets. Yeah, I'm not familiar so

2319
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,119
much with those being um contested as

2320
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:12,719
more as the bus controls definitely

2321
01:39:12,719 --> 01:39:13,119
work.

2322
01:39:13,119 --> 01:39:13,760
>> Okay. So,

2323
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,000
>> and there is a now there's been some

2324
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,159
changes to how the system works and how

2325
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:20,239
the certifications are and those have

2326
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:21,840
been worked around and although that's

2327
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,800
been fixed.

2328
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,679
>> So, if there was some contest something

2329
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:27,280
that was tested on that, I'm sure that's

2330
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,119
either fixed or the works to be fixed.

2331
01:39:29,119 --> 01:39:31,760
There was some uh slight things with bus

2332
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,040
patrol that when it first came out. They

2333
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,320
needed to have a different angle and

2334
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,639
there had to be a certification

2335
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:38,800
>> like a plate picture on there

2336
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,440
>> and that was fixed. Uh luckily we were

2337
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:43,840
on the back end of

2338
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,440
>> getting it when other people were so we

2339
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:49,600
didn't have that that issue.

2340
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,520
>> Um so if there that was an issue I don't

2341
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,440
I'm sure that would be next week by the

2342
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:56,719
time we are

2343
01:39:56,719 --> 01:40:00,239
>> cool. Go ahead. Thank you. You said on

2344
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:02,639
this you haven't decided how to collect

2345
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:04,320
these.

2346
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,159
Elaborate on that. So

2347
01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:07,520
>> the the uncollected the

2348
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:08,239
>> Oh, the uncollect.

2349
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:10,320
>> So this right here is it's again what

2350
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,679
kind of works like bus patrol,

2351
01:40:11,679 --> 01:40:12,239
>> right?

2352
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:15,760
>> This one the the system sends the PD or

2353
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,880
it can be somebody else uh video and a

2354
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,400
picture of a car running. This in in the

2355
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,520
legislation has to be over 10 mph. So if

2356
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,440
the school speed zone is 20, it has to

2357
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:30,480
be at least 31 mph. So it can't be

2358
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:32,880
anything less than 10 mph. So it's

2359
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,040
automatically set to 11 mph.

2360
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:35,360
>> Okay?

2361
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,480
>> So school zones 20 or 15,

2362
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:41,520
>> it has to be 11 mph before it gets

2363
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,480
triggered.

2364
01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:44,800
>> And then there's a picture, there's a

2365
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,280
video, there's license plate, and then

2366
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,760
it gets their company reviews it. And

2367
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,239
then it gets sent to us. We we review

2368
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:55,199
it. And then it's sent to the video and

2369
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:56,800
the picture gets sent to the registered

2370
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:01,119
owner. These I believe more people are

2371
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:03,920
willing to pay these. It's $50 where the

2372
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,560
bus patrol ticket is $250 and these are

2373
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,560
$50. So I think that's why these have a

2374
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:09,840
higher collection rate than some other

2375
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,239
ones.

2376
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:14,320
>> Would you need an officer or someone to

2377
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,880
review what they what the company?

2378
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,880
>> Yes. Yes. With bus patrol. That's what

2379
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,320
we're doing currently as well. So every

2380
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,600
time somebody we do those videos it uh

2381
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,760
we have to review those and then after

2382
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,440
we review it the law department if

2383
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:28,800
somebody says

2384
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,400
>> no

2385
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:31,920
they're testing it then the law

2386
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,440
department reviews it and then they

2387
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:35,600
they'll bring it to court.

2388
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:36,000
>> Go ahead.

2389
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,719
>> So it's a little off this but I did

2390
01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:40,639
recently have a phone call from a

2391
01:41:40,639 --> 01:41:43,119
resident who had received the higher

2392
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:46,960
ticket and basically said were you

2393
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,440
there? Oh that's my car.

2394
01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:52,639
um etc. And I So my question is, which

2395
01:41:52,639 --> 01:41:54,239
is not related to the budget, I'm sorry,

2396
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:57,119
but I told her to call the police

2397
01:41:57,119 --> 01:41:58,880
department or go down to the police

2398
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,040
department and and is that was that the

2399
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,719
right advice to give this person?

2400
01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:04,960
>> Yes. If the person thinks it's not their

2401
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,840
car, then um traffic would definitely

2402
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,679
look at it. A lot of times we get

2403
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:10,960
they're saying that there's no way that

2404
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,800
I would do something like that. And if

2405
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:14,239
that's the case, then we would say the

2406
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:15,840
law department would be the way to go.

2407
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:16,320
Um

2408
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,840
>> gotcha. So they would be able to do a

2409
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:21,760
ticket in the mail actually has a link

2410
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,119
where they can watch the video of the

2411
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:26,080
vehicle

2412
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,880
the ticket video pictures and all sorts

2413
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,719
of things happen. But if some for some

2414
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:33,040
reason they say that's not my car then

2415
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:34,480
that would be like okay we could we

2416
01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:35,920
could review it and we would say okay

2417
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,400
that's a license plate that's not a a

2418
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,600
blue Buick

2419
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,280
>> and then we would be able to tell that

2420
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,119
there's an issue with the registration

2421
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:44,560
vehicle and we could take care of that.

2422
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,719
But if it's there's no way that I don't

2423
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:49,520
think that I actually ran through it.

2424
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,159
>> Most people 99% of the people aren't

2425
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:54,480
don't say that because it's it's clearly

2426
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:56,080
clear as that. You actually see like

2427
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:57,440
four angles. I think it's three or four

2428
01:42:57,440 --> 01:42:58,960
depending on the box. You actually see

2429
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:04,400
yourself going through it. Um it's very clear. I would say that's all

2430
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:05,760
part because once the ticket's issued,

2431
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,600
we can't unless it's a technical issue,

2432
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,199
we can't get rid of it. So it's

2433
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:11,360
>> so once the ticket is issued.

2434
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,119
>> Okay. So thank you. So you said that

2435
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:16,960
this is an estimate of how much we would

2436
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,119
get. So there's room for negotiation

2437
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:22,000
that we could get 60% versus 50.

2438
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,880
>> It's possible. Um I believe that the 50

2439
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,719
is going to probably be where it is, but

2440
01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:29,040
we there's the potential. There is

2441
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,159
potential for that. The uh our bus

2442
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:35,600
patrol started off as a different rate

2443
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:37,760
and then we renewed after a year. Mhm.

2444
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,560
>> Uh our commissioner really beat him up

2445
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:42,880
and got us a better rate after one year.

2446
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:43,600
And

2447
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:44,639
>> Oh, I remember that.

2448
01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:47,679
>> Yes, we uh we are now doing much better.

2449
01:43:47,679 --> 01:43:50,159
>> So, we have not signed obviously signed

2450
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:51,760
anything. It's a master service

2451
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,159
agreement. It's um we don't pay anything

2452
01:43:54,159 --> 01:43:57,040
for the company that we currently engage

2453
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,679
with. The city pays no money with. It's

2454
01:43:59,679 --> 01:44:01,520
they install everything. They do

2455
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,560
everything. They collect some money. Um,

2456
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,239
but there was no cost to us, but there

2457
01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:11,520
would be a negotiation phase to it. So,

2458
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,040
>> does that mean I can increase this to

2459
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,709
400,000?

2460
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,960
» I was if uh if anybody knows the

2461
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,080
governor, if they want to call her, have

2462
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,320
her sign the right.

2463
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,679
I know soon as she get obviously we want

2464
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:28,880
to do a uh a campaign right away to

2465
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,280
advise everybody. That's definitely the

2466
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,840
right way to do it is to we can even

2467
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,400
they starting sooner than later to put

2468
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:40,480
it out say these are coming just uh once

2469
01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:41,679
she signs it. I believe it's the

2470
01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:43,199
following month that they can start

2471
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:44,800
putting them out. I think is how the how

2472
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:45,679
the law works.

2473
01:44:45,679 --> 01:44:46,239
>> Mhm.

2474
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:48,320
>> And I think they can get them in like 7

2475
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,400
to 14 days if we were to go into certain

2476
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,560
companies and everybody reading their

2477
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,840
contract is signed pretty quick. But you

2478
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,040
definitely want to do a at least a month

2479
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,119
or several weeks of a of a campaign. Let

2480
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:04,159
people know what's happening because

2481
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:06,960
stick them out there.

2482
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,360
>> And they do do a like a mailing out

2483
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,880
campaign. So it's it can be however long

2484
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,199
it's decided where they'll get like a

2485
01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:17,040
warning for a certain amount of time.

2486
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,520
They'll get to actually get a m warning

2487
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:23,040
to say you're you're speeding and slow

2488
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,400
down.

2489
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,159
Um, Mr. Go ahead.

2490
01:45:26,159 --> 01:45:29,199
>> So, do you can you get the legislative

2491
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:31,360
the number of Oh, you have it. Thank

2492
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:32,800
you. Cuz I

2493
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:37,590
>> like to follow up on this.

2494
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:42,070
» Thank you.

2495
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,560
» All right. Any other questions for the

2496
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,639
chief?

2497
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:48,480
>> Well, in terms of the funding, this is

2498
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,719
the detail is categorized under the

2499
01:45:50,719 --> 01:45:53,280
funding on the revenue. Yes.

2500
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:58,080
>> 26 and yes.

2501
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,639
>> Do you have where where would this fall

2502
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:04,159
or that is it owns its own line? I

2503
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:07,440
believe he I believe commissioner put on

2504
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:10,960
>> you talking about that this um detail we

2505
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:16,550
covered 219,000 but it's not in

2506
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,280
the

2507
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,880
26 26

2508
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:30,550
B okay

2509
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,550
26

2510
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,199
Okay. Are there any other questions for

2511
01:46:37,199 --> 01:46:38,239
the chief?

2512
01:46:38,239 --> 01:46:39,760
>> Well,

2513
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,639
um I think that I I think he probably

2514
01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:44,639
had to had to leave, but Mr. Williams

2515
01:46:44,639 --> 01:46:47,520
had asked about a couple of the capital

2516
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,960
budget pieces,

2517
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,040
>> right? I think he answered one of the

2518
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,480
greens.

2519
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:56,239
>> It was answered.

2520
01:46:56,239 --> 01:46:58,560
>> Oh. Oh, this is an old I thought this we

2521
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,840
just got this tonight. I think the name

2522
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,320
October 22nd is the date from this

2523
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,080
morning

2524
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:07,760
in our packet tonight.

2525
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,440
>> Yeah.

2526
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:11,119
>> So,

2527
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:13,679
he's um two of his recommendations and I

2528
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:15,520
know we've had the discussion already

2529
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,480
about the capital fund uh the capital

2530
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:20,639
budget doesn't affect our what we're

2531
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:22,480
looking for here, but it would affect us

2532
01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:24,639
next year. So, I think it's worth um

2533
01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:27,440
trying to ask the questions. And so on

2534
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:32,239
his behalf, um he's wondering um about

2535
01:47:32,239 --> 01:47:34,159
removing from the police department

2536
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:38,719
halfway allocations as well as um

2537
01:47:38,719 --> 01:47:41,360
removing department evidence storage

2538
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:45,119
solutions. Um so that would be 273K for

2539
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:48,880
the first two gate the other. Um so

2540
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,800
would you like to talk about what impact

2541
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,280
that would have if we were to um try to

2542
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,440
reduce the capital budget by

2543
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,400
>> so I'll start off with the evidence um

2544
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,480
that one I've actually tried to apply

2545
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:05,600
for grant in the past um and that one

2546
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,440
right now

2547
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:10,239
we have compensation

2548
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:15,360
to um that are in and out is full so

2549
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,360
we're supposed to be pulling it policy

2550
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,960
says cuz we're actually pulled u port

2551
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,400
prisoners in and out

2552
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,480
>> and we can't because it is full of uh we

2553
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:30,400
have motorcycles, we have bikes, we have

2554
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,280
um our deliveries and other items coming

2555
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,239
inside of there. So, we have no room in

2556
01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:37,840
there because where we were supposed to

2557
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,239
keep that stuff is full evidence. So

2558
01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:43,199
down in the parking lot uh right across

2559
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:46,000
from that is completely full of evidence

2560
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:47,920
and our basement is completely full of

2561
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,600
evidence and we have absolutely no room

2562
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,560
left for it.

2563
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,119
>> Okay.

2564
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:55,040
>> Um and besides that

2565
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,440
>> besides that we actually uh we have 10

2566
01:48:57,440 --> 01:49:00,960
freezers in our basement that uh is

2567
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,199
currently they're overheated and we're

2568
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:05,600
getting them work done regularly because

2569
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,159
we don't have any wreck in that in the

2570
01:49:08,159 --> 01:49:10,239
building. We wanted to do I thought we

2571
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:12,000
were going to do a bigger project, but I

2572
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,239
think that future years it's going to be

2573
01:49:14,239 --> 01:49:15,440
extremely expensive,

2574
01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:15,920
>> right?

2575
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,440
>> So, I did not ask uh for a $30,000

2576
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:23,119
um HVAC mini smaller project that we had

2577
01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:26,159
quote for last year to get uh air

2578
01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:30,320
conditioning or renting in our freezing

2579
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,960
water. And though all our freezers are

2580
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,400
full, so we need freezer space. Um,

2581
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:37,760
unfortunately I think we're we're out of

2582
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,119
it. So we have to buy we had to buy

2583
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:40,880
another freezer and we have a place to

2584
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,639
put it. So lost $10,000. So long story

2585
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:47,280
short is we that is the most crucial

2586
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:48,880
thing of anything. Obviously we talk

2587
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,639
about the other things but we are

2588
01:49:50,639 --> 01:49:54,719
chucked out of space and we we need we

2589
01:49:54,719 --> 01:49:56,560
need space very badly. One of the

2590
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,080
reasons for that is that the state

2591
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,920
changed the detention rates that we had

2592
01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:02,000
to. So now we can't get rid of evidence.

2593
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,639
Yeah. We wanted to

2594
01:50:04,639 --> 01:50:06,639
one was unfunded mandates where they had

2595
01:50:06,639 --> 01:50:08,800
to keep these for 30 years now and

2596
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,480
>> 30 years.

2597
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:13,119
>> We gave up our break room for store

2598
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:14,719
evidence. We just keep losing space in

2599
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:17,040
that building store evidence that has to

2600
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,560
be stored for a horse of 30 years and

2601
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,159
she just me but we budgeted we budgeted

2602
01:50:24,159 --> 01:50:26,400
higher than 250,000 ready to cut it

2603
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,159
down.

2604
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:33,440
>> Yes. We asked for uh as we asked for uh

2605
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,880
for storage freezer and training and it

2606
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,560
got cut from the 700 down 250 free spot

2607
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,239
for now so you can move some stuff

2608
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:44,719
around. So it moves down to uh down to

2609
01:50:44,719 --> 01:50:46,719
the the

2610
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:48,480
like and obviously next year we coming

2611
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:51,840
back and asking for another one.

2612
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,400
>> And then the other well just to finish

2613
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,400
the other one that Mr. Williams was

2614
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,320
asking about was half the vehicle

2615
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,000
obligation as well.

2616
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,679
>> I had an appointment.

2617
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:03,600
>> Yes. Well, obviously we we don't want

2618
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,080
to, but if that's a decision that um

2619
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,920
there is, then we wouldn't do that.

2620
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,159
Right now, that was cut down from the

2621
01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:14,159
initial uh we had asked for um 13

2622
01:51:14,159 --> 01:51:16,400
>> 13 I think that's down to I think. So,

2623
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,320
that's one parking vehicle, three patrol

2624
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,119
vehicles, and four detected vehicles.

2625
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:22,320
One evidence down.

2626
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:23,920
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, one evidence. Yes.

2627
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,119
So that's if we hadn't do the math that

2628
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:29,199
we would we would make deal with if we

2629
01:51:29,199 --> 01:51:30,320
did do that. So whatever

2630
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,520
>> the danger with that is we're talking

2631
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,000
the ability to buy cars next March or

2632
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,719
next May and it's usually about a

2633
01:51:38,719 --> 01:51:40,560
one-year process from getting it and

2634
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:41,920
getting it updated before it hits the

2635
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,599
streets. The ones that were approved

2636
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:45,840
that we purchased this past May, we

2637
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,239
haven't even had them yet.

2638
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:50,000
>> One today actually yesterday.

2639
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,119
>> Or was that from the year before? That

2640
01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:54,960
was from the year before. So May of 24,

2641
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:56,800
>> we haven't gotten those colors yet. So

2642
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:01,430
there's always that black.

2643
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:05,199
» So I'm going to finish up the shipping.

2644
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:07,679
I haven't

2645
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:09,440
is that essential

2646
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:12,080
buy from people

2647
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,440
like

2648
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:16,960
>> that's in the capital

2649
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,520
anywhere. So we're actually speaking to

2650
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,800
the mayor either locate them in an area

2651
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,480
of our parking lot that's currently

2652
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:27,360
grass a grassy null or even potentially

2653
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,440
put them on top of the police department

2654
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:30,960
because there's a flat roof that can

2655
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:32,960
wait stand that way just looking for

2656
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,679
space to utilize in l of building a

2657
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:39,280
building or buying a building

2658
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:43,280
on top of the building it we we haven't

2659
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,840
gone through that betting process yes

2660
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,040
it's 40 ft by 8 ft and it would be this

2661
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:53,360
a full freezer it'd be a a freezer 8540

2662
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:53,840
freezer

2663
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:55,760
>> which is more efficient than running 10

2664
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:56,880
individual commercial

2665
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,199
>> yes you're using less power it's an

2666
01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:03,440
investment it's a lower cost time

2667
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:04,960
>> thank you and the important of this for

2668
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,960
the importance of this for cold cases

2669
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,880
DNA everything to save kids things like

2670
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,440
that

2671
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:14,000
for sure

2672
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,320
>> yeah

2673
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,719
so um so with the vehicle questions like

2674
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:21,599
in 2020 when we're putting our 2025

2675
01:53:21,599 --> 01:53:23,920
budget together. There was a request for

2676
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,280
two SUVs, three hybrids vans, and a

2677
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:28,560
hybrid van.

2678
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:28,960
>> Yes.

2679
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:33,199
So, none of those two say we

2680
01:53:33,199 --> 01:53:34,320
received this point.

2681
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:38,800
>> Yep. So, on those um so what did we So,

2682
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,199
what were the uh what were the what did

2683
01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:41,840
we actually

2684
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,639
>> Yes. You in 20 for the 2025 budget as

2685
01:53:44,639 --> 01:53:45,679
two SUVs.

2686
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:46,159
>> Yeah.

2687
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:47,520
>> 300 sedans.

2688
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:47,840
>> Yeah.

2689
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,280
>> And three hybrid vans.

2690
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,520
>> 300 vans. We received some of them. So,

2691
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:59,440
the three hybrids, uh, those are on order and three hybrid

2692
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:01,920
sedan sedans. We actually went with, um,

2693
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,239
EVs. We received one of those today and

2694
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:06,080
the other two are on order. And then the

2695
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,159
two SUVs,

2696
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:12,080
um, we looked to order one of those. Uh,

2697
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:13,760
got the mini bid back the other day, but

2698
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,599
did not pull the trigger on it. and the

2699
01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:18,080
other one. And um

2700
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:21,199
I don't think we worked that yet.

2701
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:22,560
>> So with the hybrids, is that going to be

2702
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,560
an increased cost? Uh excuse me, with

2703
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,239
the EV, it's going to be increase

2704
01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:28,639
instead of just a hybrid versus a

2705
01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:30,480
straight EV is what you said that you

2706
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:31,840
ordered instead of

2707
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,159
>> No. No. So no, there's the same. We we

2708
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:35,760
stay within the within the capital

2709
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,760
within the budget. No, everything's been

2710
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,560
within those within the lines.

2711
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,679
So now the 20 for the 2026 budget we

2712
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:46,719
just need three more is

2713
01:54:46,719 --> 01:54:47,440
>> yes

2714
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,760
>> a total of five in the last

2715
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:52,000
>> yes two years to replace to

2716
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,679
>> yeah to replace yes so we had we the

2717
01:54:55,679 --> 01:54:57,920
SUVs that are patrol cars are frontline

2718
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,040
cars so those are the ones that to get

2719
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,280
unfortunately those are beat up pretty

2720
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,440
heavily so the ones that are for patrol

2721
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:06,880
those are the ones that need to be those

2722
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,440
are hybrids the SUVs

2723
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,159
the uh patrol interceptors, they're all

2724
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:14,800
those end up getting rid of our chargers

2725
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,080
that we had. Those are back from uh 2020

2726
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,080
maybe or 2019 I think is our oldest one

2727
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:21,440
we have now. So those are all getting

2728
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,360
phased out. Our old ones are down on

2729
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:25,760
phosph getting auctioned off.

2730
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,480
>> Oh my question. Absolutely.

2731
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:31,040
>> We every time we get auctioned off if

2732
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:33,360
there's something that's semidecent and

2733
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:37,760
fast we have all of the other um bure

2734
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,830
they are interested because

2735
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,360
um

2736
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:48,080
they do get everything that we have is

2737
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,750
an accident

2738
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:52,639
money

2739
01:55:52,639 --> 01:55:54,880
>> money goes back into the revenue and not

2740
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,920
our budget but there's a line

2741
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,080
uh general and I think

2742
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,440
>> no general

2743
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,880
>> in the uh there's a line that's sale of

2744
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:05,440
vehicles.

2745
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,599
>> Oh yeah, I can see.

2746
01:56:07,599 --> 01:56:10,560
>> So you mentioned about parking with some

2747
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:12,480
of the people.

2748
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,960
Can we pass that at least

2749
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,239
not the parks department because of the

2750
01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:20,480
only from about 8:00 in the morning or 7

2751
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,280
to 5?

2752
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,880
>> So we did do that. That's typically what

2753
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,960
we do do is we bring them. It's uh

2754
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,560
actually right now actually we did do

2755
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,560
that with one of our our last vehicles

2756
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,040
that was moved forward to parking. So we

2757
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,119
have two sorry right now we have three

2758
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:35,040
vehicles parking I believe that were our

2759
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:36,960
old vehicles and the other one is a is

2760
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,639
an EV um that we had was a Chevy Bolt

2761
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:43,119
and the plan was to buy you know a Chevy

2762
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:46,320
Bolt for next year. The one of the

2763
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,599
vehicles in parking is just uh I think

2764
01:56:49,599 --> 01:56:53,760
it's pretty much fall apart. So I I

2765
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,599
think the conversation about the capital

2766
01:56:55,599 --> 01:57:00,080
budget when we did this a day or two was

2767
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,960
more of um can we hold off on capital

2768
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:07,199
spending because of the situation we at

2769
01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:10,960
the moment we're facing a a budget a

2770
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,480
proposed budget of 17%. And then fees on

2771
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,520
top of that and then this is not going

2772
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,280
to affect the budget. be borrowing

2773
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,360
money, but we have to we have taxpayers

2774
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,239
going to have to pay for this in 2027.

2775
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:25,679
>> That's more borrowing than them already.

2776
01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:27,679
Now, we're pushing that into next year.

2777
01:57:27,679 --> 01:57:29,599
>> So, that was open discussion a couple

2778
01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:32,400
days ago in terms of can we put these

2779
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:33,440
off.

2780
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,360
>> I would say that that you can I would

2781
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,239
just say that, you know, I just my only

2782
01:57:38,239 --> 01:57:39,920
thing would be in the future, you know,

2783
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,320
I might come back and say that we need

2784
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:43,840
vehicles and I just don't want to I

2785
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,440
don't want to keep getting too far down

2786
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:46,800
the road. Absolutely. You know,

2787
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,239
whatever. If the council decides that,

2788
01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:50,239
then we will live with whatever the

2789
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:52,800
council sides the the evidence. I

2790
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,159
wouldn't I mean to ask you to strongly

2791
01:57:56,159 --> 01:57:57,920
consider not cutting that.

2792
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,760
>> Um but the vehicles, if you had to cut

2793
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:04,159
that in half, I would say that we will deal with whatever you guys have

2794
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:06,080
to have to do to do what's right for the

2795
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,400
city.

2796
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,520
>> But right now, you have three SUVs for K

2797
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,719
North. So, are you saying

2798
01:58:14,719 --> 01:58:18,400
I'll say two two police and two unmarked

2799
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,159
and could you and then you still want

2800
01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:20,719
the parking?

2801
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:23,679
>> I would love to have they are they do a

2802
01:58:23,679 --> 01:58:25,199
very good job for us and that's going to

2803
01:58:25,199 --> 01:58:29,119
actually be able to buy it and we

2804
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:31,520
actually find a we team on that. So, uh

2805
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,440
it would actually be be pretty pretty

2806
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:34,960
reasonable

2807
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,880
to keep

2808
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,470
that.

2809
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,880
Thank you.

2810
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,400
for bringing that up. Yeah,

2811
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,400
because you know it's good that we have

2812
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,599
saw this memo from

2813
01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:50,480
Williams.

2814
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:50,880
>> Yes.

2815
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:52,719
>> About the discussion and things about

2816
01:58:52,719 --> 01:58:55,360
it. That's what the whole s discussion

2817
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:59,360
about the capital budget is because of

2818
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,199
>> we need to get out of where we are right

2819
01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:02,560
now

2820
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,599
>> and then we need to find a recovery how

2821
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:08,400
we move forward in the 2017.

2822
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,360
Uh any other question on this part?

2823
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,599
So I don't want to continue going but

2824
01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:15,040
there are two more questions that was

2825
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,280
asked of me. So I don't want I want to

2826
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,719
miss out and have to come back.

2827
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:23,199
>> You want to know about going or somebody

2828
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:24,480
going

2829
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,119
>> Yeah. Yeah. So the question was I just

2830
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:30,719
noticed that I see what line

2831
01:59:30,719 --> 01:59:31,920
>> but it doubled.

2832
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,560
>> Yeah. The question was that it doubled

2833
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:36,320
and I was thinking and I was just trying

2834
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:39,199
to figure out that's line

2835
01:59:39,199 --> 01:59:42,159
>> A 1789

2836
01:59:42,159 --> 01:59:44,560
>> and and and a so I was just trying to

2837
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,639
figure out

2838
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:49,280
>> why how did we get to doubling

2839
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,000
>> so we were asked to come up with way to

2840
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,000
increase revenues

2841
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:58,709
months ago and that was just one way

2842
01:59:58,719 --> 02:00:00,080
it was

2843
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,520
>> we we we did renegotiate Which animal

2844
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:09,510
responsibility

2845
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,679
charge the people that are actually

2846
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:14,560
total numbers contract

2847
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,000
year or two ago?

2848
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:16,639
>> Yes.

2849
02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:21,510
>> That is kicking in this year.

2850
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,360
» Go ahead. So you said you double the

2851
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,080
illustrated.

2852
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:31,350
So who is that? Is that who is that?

2853
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:34,880
The people who are um getting their car

2854
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:38,400
is divided between the two of them.

2855
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:42,470
Typically companies

2856
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:45,840
typically it's it's on insurance calls.

2857
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,480
>> Okay. So accidents I understand.

2858
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:49,840
However, if someone's getting their

2859
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,599
parts over because of the license

2860
02:00:53,599 --> 02:00:56,639
and so on, those double cs are in.

2861
02:00:56,639 --> 02:00:59,920
>> Yes. Question. Yes.

2862
02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:02,639
>> Well, okay. If it's a parking violation,

2863
02:01:02,639 --> 02:01:06,159
I guess it would be, right?

2864
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:09,280
>> Or or if you're driving registration or

2865
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:10,800
license,

2866
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:14,000
you can't get somebody to take time.

2867
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:19,830
If if it's a police request

2868
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:24,229
drive

2869
02:01:24,239 --> 02:01:27,440
» I think we're talking $35 or $70.

2870
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:31,510
>> Yes. Yes.

2871
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:35,920
» Um well can I go further with that? So

2872
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,360
what you if you're including these

2873
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:40,400
before for the total for the um to

2874
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,880
amounts

2875
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,480
those search charges only for the

2876
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,719
administration it didn't include um the

2877
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:49,199
impound lot is a totally separate page.

2878
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:52,400
So how so I understand how to search

2879
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,880
charge for the towing but the impound

2880
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,760
lot is that is our lot is it is it

2881
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:58,800
somebody else's lot right?

2882
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,040
>> Yes. So right now uh they can char the

2883
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:02,880
tow companies charge up to $200 for a

2884
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,400
toe and the city gets $35 per toe and

2885
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,520
then the impound lot they the tow

2886
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,760
companies take them back and tow there

2887
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,560
and they get 70 up to $75 per day. City

2888
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,960
gets $10 per day. So we would double

2889
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,040
that to $20 per day and double the

2890
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:19,920
amount of money.

2891
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,560
>> Oh. So we're only doubling the fee for

2892
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:25,040
the lot. That 75 doesn't become 50.

2893
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,119
>> Correct. Correct.

2894
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:28,639
So, and we they could we could either

2895
02:02:28,639 --> 02:02:30,320
tell them that we want to keep $75 and

2896
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,840
take money from the toe company or

2897
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:34,560
negotiate that or say it wants to be $85

2898
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:37,679
>> and then you just add $10.

2899
02:02:37,679 --> 02:02:40,560
>> Okay.

2900
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,239
>> I thought they Isn't there like a limit

2901
02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:44,239
that they can charge per day like state

2902
02:02:44,239 --> 02:02:45,599
law or something like that? Like they

2903
02:02:45,599 --> 02:02:49,520
can't No, that so that

2904
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:53,669
>> Okay. Okay.

2905
02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:59,910
but either way 10,000 and okay

2906
02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:01,440
» sorry again I'm just looking at

2907
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:05,520
Australian sheet was one other one is

2908
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:12,470
which is the uh it's 3120 a 312402

2909
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,320
um

2910
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,440
and it I think he's looking at the um

2911
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,960
public safety foundation which in this

2912
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:25,040
budget for 2026 is at 10,000 instead of

2913
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,000
the 25,000 that we used to have. Um but

2914
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,080
I don't understand I guess

2915
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:31,679
>> I'm not really understanding Mr.

2916
02:03:31,679 --> 02:03:33,360
Everybody else is um

2917
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:35,280
>> yeah he's looking at the actual we have

2918
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,760
outstanding invoices

2919
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,719
the public safety

2920
02:03:40,719 --> 02:03:44,229
happen

2921
02:03:44,239 --> 02:03:47,040
the one in the park

2922
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,760
of all the invo

2923
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:51,280
>> today

2924
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:54,320
um I believe they all had um for that

2925
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,239
event and any all other events

2926
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:59,280
everything what we have not done um

2927
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:01,920
after anyone was done with the

2928
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:05,520
you have say Halloween.

2929
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:10,790
We did not do the

2930
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:14,149
don't

2931
02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:16,719
» and we did not do there's several ones

2932
02:04:16,719 --> 02:04:19,119
that we did not do obviously not paid

2933
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:21,280
for towards the end of the year when the

2934
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,920
budget for the last couple months uh

2935
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,000
just the budget started we heard the

2936
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,280
budget was getting

2937
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:31,440
>> actually tighter we just we didn't try

2938
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:35,280
to consult we were concerned

2939
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:36,880
Okay. You know what? I'm asking I was

2940
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,199
the wrong It was the wrong line. Um, Mr.

2941
02:04:39,199 --> 02:04:40,000
Williams,

2942
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,679
>> he is asking that line.

2943
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:43,280
>> Yeah, he's asking also.

2944
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,719
>> He said, but I said the wrong one.

2945
02:04:46,719 --> 02:04:49,119
>> 4.5

2946
02:04:49,119 --> 02:04:51,280
reducing less%.

2947
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:52,719
>> I said the wrong one. But

2948
02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:54,159
>> yeah,

2949
02:04:54,159 --> 02:04:56,320
>> Go ahead.

2950
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,159
>> He he because I couldn't figure it out

2951
02:04:58,159 --> 02:04:59,760
myself, but I gave you the wrong. It's

2952
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,560
402, not 40. I was talking about 402B,

2953
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,000
the public safety foundation, but

2954
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,400
actually Mr. Williams's question is

2955
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:10,800
about the administrative expense 31242,

2956
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:15,360
which the budget um I mean year to date

2957
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:18,960
we've spent um only 48

2958
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:22,560
>> uh 48% of it, 48.7K.

2959
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:28,480
Um and in the 2026 budget, um it's being

2960
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:32,229
reduced

2961
02:05:32,239 --> 02:05:35,360
It's not uh it's not being reduced. And

2962
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:36,960
so I think I think I don't want to put

2963
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,800
words into his mouth.

2964
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,520
>> So from from the 2025 adopted to the

2965
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:46,000
2026 for is being reduced by 700

2966
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,760
>> 11 1,700. Yeah. 1,700.

2967
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,159
So Mr. Williams is asking that reduced

2968
02:05:52,159 --> 02:05:53,599
by another 25%.

2969
02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:56,159
>> Oh.

2970
02:05:56,159 --> 02:05:58,960
>> Okay. I wasn't sure what his note was.

2971
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,360
Okay. So he's suggesting reducing it an

2972
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:02,880
additional 25,000

2973
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:04,560
>> based on so I want to get your your

2974
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,960
thought on that as well. Does the trade

2975
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:10,000
on expense?

2976
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:13,840
>> So there's it was 25. We we proposed to

2977
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,950
107500.

2978
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:20,960
» No, I gave you the wrong one. I'm sorry.

2979
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:24,000
You did not borrow to um A, B, or C.

2980
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,199
want to add this

2981
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:29,599
or you could be right here.

2982
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:32,239
>> I I say so

2983
02:06:32,239 --> 02:06:34,000
>> it's really the regular administrative

2984
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,960
expense but that but Mr. Williams Mr.

2985
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:40,159
Williams is saying perhaps we could

2986
02:06:40,159 --> 02:06:41,119
reduce

2987
02:06:41,119 --> 02:06:44,159
>> $10,000. Yes, he's suggesting reducing

2988
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:46,880
it by $25,000.

2989
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:48,400
And I think that he's saying that

2990
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,599
because year to date, which I know these

2991
02:06:51,599 --> 02:06:54,239
are don't have all our figures in, but

2992
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:56,960
year to date

2993
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:58,079
>> 48.7.

2994
02:06:58,079 --> 02:07:01,520
>> Yeah, we're only at 48.7.

2995
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,560
So, but again, maybe it's the last maybe

2996
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,040
it's because the last quarter

2997
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:10,719
>> contracts renewed. So, I know we just

2998
02:07:10,719 --> 02:07:11,760
contracts when they're due.

2999
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,599
>> We just renewed. We've got our copy

3000
02:07:13,599 --> 02:07:17,360
release. We just signed um couple days

3001
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,159
ago. So, I got to find out what that is.

3002
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:22,960
Um I can tell you that historically, but

3003
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,719
I'm not sure if this is still practice,

3004
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:27,199
but Commissioner Ferrari had us buy some

3005
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:29,679
supplies at the end of the year, and

3006
02:07:29,679 --> 02:07:32,960
that was that would be common practice

3007
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:34,560
prior to the beginning of the year

3008
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:36,400
because we had a surplus. I don't know.

3009
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,480
That's the practice I'm going right now.

3010
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:41,040
>> Original requested 1234 before it was

3011
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:41,840
knocked down, but

3012
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:43,199
>> Oh, okay.

3013
02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:48,320
>> But um I can see exactly what we had

3014
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:52,000
coming up for that.

3015
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:53,760
>> No, want a big one.

3016
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,360
>> That was that's our supply.

3017
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,320
>> Yeah. So on on administrative?

3018
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:03,280
>> No, that's that's our supply.

3019
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:07,360
This is our guardian software

3020
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:10,639
or not guardian software. Um

3021
02:08:10,639 --> 02:08:15,830
our errors miserction

3022
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:21,189
of drugs

3023
02:08:21,199 --> 02:08:24,870
reimbursements

3024
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:28,709
shredded.

3025
02:08:28,719 --> 02:08:31,199
So I can go back to that and actually

3026
02:08:31,199 --> 02:08:33,679
see what we've spent out of that to see

3027
02:08:33,679 --> 02:08:37,040
more detail and see what kind of effect

3028
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:38,880
that would have on us.

3029
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:42,079
>> Okay. Thank you again. I'm Mr. Williams.

3030
02:08:42,079 --> 02:08:47,189
Thanks you

3031
02:08:47,199 --> 02:08:55,030
» October 9mber.

3032
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:58,719
Yeah, I guess so. Any

3033
02:08:58,719 --> 02:09:01,040
other questions?

3034
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:04,639
There's one more on my

3035
02:09:04,639 --> 02:09:06,639
just

3036
02:09:06,639 --> 02:09:10,079
be addressing about bus control. Um bus

3037
02:09:10,079 --> 02:09:14,960
patrol was not reducing the numbers. Um

3038
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,760
reduced by 200,000 from last year this

3039
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:21,520
year. Um so the answer to put in mind

3040
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,000
what we actually received. So this year

3041
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:29,760
to date uh as of uh the end of September

3042
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:33,440
we are at $249

3043
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,760
called $250,000

3044
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:37,280
and

3045
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:41,119
um we renegotiated

3046
02:09:41,119 --> 02:09:44,800
the wait 300 July. So now we feel that

3047
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:48,239
400,000 is an actual number compared to

3048
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:49,840
600,000.

3049
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:53,360
The renegotiation made it so that during

3050
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:54,800
the summer months there there used to be

3051
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:56,639
a technology fee. We no longer have to

3052
02:09:56,639 --> 02:09:59,280
pay that which was eating up all the

3053
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,040
revenue that we had throughout the

3054
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,599
summer months. And our source technology

3055
02:10:03,599 --> 02:10:04,960
feeding is cut in half throughout the

3056
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:08,000
rest of the year. So that really um

3057
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,159
saved us about $200,000 a year

3058
02:10:10,159 --> 02:10:13,760
automatically uh without

3059
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,400
feeds a little bit different now. And I

3060
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,560
know that we have a lot of unflected

3061
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,159
funds.

3062
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:25,520
Um we also owed 955,000 well 955,000

3063
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:27,599
uncollected funds there and we're owed

3064
02:10:27,599 --> 02:10:30,079
about 60% of that as well. So there's

3065
02:10:30,079 --> 02:10:32,639
about $600,000 of uncollected funds out

3066
02:10:32,639 --> 02:10:35,280
there.

3067
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:37,360
>> How much does that

3068
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:40,079
um about $600,000 $50 million out there?

3069
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:43,119
About $600,000. So, we have currently

3070
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:45,040
$250,000

3071
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:46,159
actual.

3072
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:46,719
>> Yeah.

3073
02:10:46,719 --> 02:10:47,440
>> What do you receive?

3074
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:48,880
>> Yeah. 250.

3075
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,800
>> $600,000 outstanding.

3076
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:51,599
>> Mhm.

3077
02:10:51,599 --> 02:10:53,840
>> That over the last two years um

3078
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:57,520
outstanding. Currently in the last year,

3079
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:01,520
right now we have $147,000.

3080
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:03,679
It's

3081
02:11:03,679 --> 02:11:06,480
where about

3082
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,119
10 minutes depending on

3083
02:11:09,119 --> 02:11:13,520
50% or a lot of involved and they don't

3084
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,760
collect

3085
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:19,280
on it that would be 60%. But there at a

3086
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:24,719
minimum 50%. Uh 22 271 to 360 days

3087
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:26,880
147,000.

3088
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:31,119
181 to 270 is 178,000.

3089
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:34,400
90 to 80.

3090
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:38,880
Less than 90 days is 90,000. Those are

3091
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:43,599
uncontested unpaid tickets. We have uh

3092
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:45,840
people that have contested it and

3093
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:49,520
they've lost. Um and that is $10,000. So

3094
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:52,639
that's we have $5,000.

3095
02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:56,159
>> The revenue revenue line is that

3096
02:11:56,159 --> 02:11:57,920
26.

3097
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,159
>> So if we

3098
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:03,520
actual it's 250,000 and that is like

3099
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:05,440
it's current or in September.

3100
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,159
>> That's current that's as of uh today I

3101
02:12:08,159 --> 02:12:10,239
just got the end of September number

3102
02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:12,000
sorry. So that's through September 30th.

3103
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,239
>> Through September 30th I don't have I

3104
02:12:14,239 --> 02:12:16,480
won't get I usually like between around

3105
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,000
October 10th I'll have the numbers

3106
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:20,000
through October. So look at the car for

3107
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,000
September and look at how much you have

3108
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:25,119
outstanding $600,000 that

3109
02:12:25,119 --> 02:12:26,079
>> that's 356

3110
02:12:26,079 --> 02:12:27,920
>> that is due to

3111
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:29,119
>> what's

3112
02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:31,599
>> are they any recovery effort in terms of

3113
02:12:31,599 --> 02:12:33,520
that by the law department but

3114
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:35,599
>> right now the law department I believe

3115
02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:38,560
is working they're working on getting

3116
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:39,920
I believe they're working on getting

3117
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:40,800
something

3118
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:42,639
>> we're working on but by the same token

3119
02:12:42,639 --> 02:12:44,800
it's $200,000 these are not parking

3120
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:46,400
tickets

3121
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,119
>> and these these folk I the police

3122
02:12:49,119 --> 02:12:51,040
department will will say that people who

3123
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:52,719
are getting these tickets are contesting

3124
02:12:52,719 --> 02:12:54,800
these tickets. These are not $50

3125
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,280
tickets. These are, you know, you go on

3126
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:59,440
a certain day of the week and there's

3127
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,360
bus patrol tickets going on that we're

3128
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:04,320
prosecuting. So you I think that there's

3129
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,880
figures that the police department has

3130
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:10,239
provided are figures to go by in light

3131
02:13:10,239 --> 02:13:13,840
of the fact that we have to deal with,

3132
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:15,679
you know, people who are contesting

3133
02:13:15,679 --> 02:13:22,560
these tickets. As the chief said, $50 is different from $200. $200,

3134
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:24,960
you know, it's an incentive for people

3135
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:26,880
to contest the tickets if they feel that

3136
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,960
they have been

3137
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:32,480
already wrong. And also

3138
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,400
this is not where you know we're talking

3139
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:35,840
about parking you're talking about

3140
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:38,480
parking tickets about going to DMV.

3141
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:40,800
These aren't being lean these don't

3142
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:43,199
impact and this is probably you know a

3143
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:46,320
deficit in the legislation that these

3144
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,800
tickets these unpaid tickets are not

3145
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:50,880
impacting the vehicle when people go to

3146
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:52,480
register. Oh

3147
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,119
>> do you? So that's, you know, if that was

3148
02:13:55,119 --> 02:14:00,320
me referred to DM on big tickets,

3149
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,400
then people would when the registrations

3150
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,000
would come up, they would see all these

3151
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,320
tickets on the because the tickets

3152
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:07,920
aren't to the person, they're to the

3153
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:08,400
vehicle.

3154
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:09,119
>> Right. Right.

3155
02:14:09,119 --> 02:14:12,320
>> This is a lot of work for a lot of this.

3156
02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:14,320
is you should be up there because

3157
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:16,320
we've got people contesting it. We show

3158
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:18,320
people the video. We talk to the people

3159
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:21,119
beforehand. We That's on pre-trial day.

3160
02:14:21,119 --> 02:14:23,360
And then even after that we have to then

3161
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:26,400
go to trial with you know with the with

3162
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:29,520
witnesses and documentation. So I think

3163
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:31,280
the figures that the police department

3164
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:35,199
are giving you are real estate figures

3165
02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:36,719
and then you know there's a broader

3166
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:39,199
issue about bus you know you know bus

3167
02:14:39,199 --> 02:14:42,719
control you know tickets as far as

3168
02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:45,760
getting that revenue that's for UNC you

3169
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,719
know those those tickets where people

3170
02:14:48,719 --> 02:14:50,960
default if you will not

3171
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:53,280
>> in terms of percentage getting thrown

3172
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:55,280
out

3173
02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:57,119
>> I I can only give you that off hand I

3174
02:14:57,119 --> 02:14:57,840
mean I keep

3175
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,480
>> I mean over the last several months.

3176
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:03,040
>> I I I'll have to look at I can't give

3177
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:05,520
that figure to you right off hand. I'll

3178
02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:07,920
talk to the staff in our office who

3179
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,119
prosecutes the tickets

3180
02:15:09,119 --> 02:15:10,880
>> if you don't mind cuz we we would like

3181
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:13,520
to look at that to kind of gauge oursel

3182
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,000
in terms of what is being

3183
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,119
>> contested ticket

3184
02:15:19,119 --> 02:15:21,119
boss patrol and how much are being told

3185
02:15:21,119 --> 02:15:23,360
and how much are being challenged

3186
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,560
because it's it's it is you know we're

3187
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:28,320
talking about you know you know the

3188
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:29,920
amount of you know there's there's

3189
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:32,960
police time on these tickets and there's

3190
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:34,960
corporation count time on these tickets

3191
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:38,480
as well as so um just managing the

3192
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:40,639
expectations.

3193
02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:42,960
>> So in those cases where people are

3194
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:44,880
contesting

3195
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:48,880
usually they offer like a reduction to

3196
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,760
>> the trouble is that it doesn't we're

3197
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:53,679
this is we have no wiggle room

3198
02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:56,320
>> understood okay I got you there's no

3199
02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:59,040
wiggle room

3200
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,520
>> so Mr. Can I just ask a question? So,

3201
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:03,360
basically, just to get back to it,

3202
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:06,239
>> the $400,000 is a realistic number. Yes.

3203
02:16:06,239 --> 02:16:07,760
>> And we should not touch that.

3204
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:10,480
>> I agree that $4,000 is a is a realistic

3205
02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:13,360
number. And I would say that I will keep

3206
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:15,760
an eye on it for some reason. It starts

3207
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:18,159
to that we're we are seeing an increase

3208
02:16:18,159 --> 02:16:20,239
now with the new contract

3209
02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:22,719
and it was going great. I will probably

3210
02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:23,760
come with you next year and say, "Hey,

3211
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:24,079
you know,

3212
02:16:24,079 --> 02:16:27,040
>> a million

3213
02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:28,159
say, you know, happen to the year." say,

3214
02:16:28,159 --> 02:16:29,280
"Hey, if there's something else you guys

3215
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:30,639
want to do, there's, you know, where

3216
02:16:30,639 --> 02:16:32,080
there's an extra it might be at

3217
02:16:32,080 --> 02:16:34,000
$500,000. You got an extra $100,000 to

3218
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:35,679
do something with, but I would say I

3219
02:16:35,679 --> 02:16:37,359
would keep I would keep

3220
02:16:37,359 --> 02:16:39,359
>> I would I would keep $400,000."

3221
02:16:39,359 --> 02:16:40,960
>> Did you um did you factor in the

3222
02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:42,479
uncollected into this $400?

3223
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:49,669
>> I did not include any uncollected

3224
02:16:49,679 --> 02:16:51,200
over the years.

3225
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:54,639
>> They right now I don't know how about

3226
02:16:54,639 --> 02:16:56,719
this to go about the act like that.

3227
02:16:56,719 --> 02:16:59,840
Right now, bus patrol is in talk about

3228
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:03,120
how they're going to do the collecting.

3229
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:06,639
I think there's um possibly they might

3230
02:17:06,639 --> 02:17:08,160
be changing the way the ticket thinking

3231
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:09,679
process is working so that they might be

3232
02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:13,280
able to do a civil um a different

3233
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:17,519
process possibly or um part they have to

3234
02:17:17,519 --> 02:17:20,399
contest and they have to it's a lot of

3235
02:17:20,399 --> 02:17:24,639
being that in order to get a judgment um

3236
02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:26,639
it's a lot of work for them.

3237
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:28,000
Um

3238
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:30,719
>> because it's a lot of spending $600,000.

3239
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:33,359
Does this mean does this sort charge

3240
02:17:33,359 --> 02:17:34,319
added to this?

3241
02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:37,120
>> There's no right now 250 and that's it.

3242
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:39,679
>> This is there's no open legislation

3243
02:17:39,679 --> 02:17:41,760
right now. So in the future there's

3244
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:44,000
potentially we could come to you if

3245
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:46,880
there's a process in place to say to add

3246
02:17:46,880 --> 02:17:49,679
legislation to this. I don't actually I

3247
02:17:49,679 --> 02:17:51,599
don't know if that's even possible but

3248
02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:53,679
it's it's the state law. It's a state

3249
02:17:53,679 --> 02:17:55,200
law.

3250
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:59,040
takes 200 hours and that's why you can't

3251
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:00,960
there's no room for negotiations as far

3252
02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:01,760
as

3253
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:03,120
>> yeah because I'm looking at it I mean

3254
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:05,920
you have done just a little bit of

3255
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:07,679
parking we make an estimate but I'm

3256
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:10,080
going to collect x amount of next year I

3257
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:11,840
mean we should look at this too as a

3258
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:13,840
potential

3259
02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:17,040
revenue against the outstanding tickets

3260
02:18:17,040 --> 02:18:17,760
>> yeah I mean

3261
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:20,000
>> so I think we can't just leave that zero

3262
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:22,639
we definitely going to get some

3263
02:18:22,639 --> 02:18:24,000
>> they're going to be some payments

3264
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:25,439
against the understanding.

3265
02:18:25,439 --> 02:18:27,920
>> Yeah, there will be some I don't know.

3266
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:29,599
>> Yeah, I think we just need to make it

3267
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:34,150
feel

3268
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:37,040
which line are you talking

3269
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:38,559
>> but but they just said that they thought

3270
02:18:38,559 --> 02:18:43,750
that 400,000 is realistic

3271
02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:46,080
which is which is a million out there

3272
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:49,679
600 of it is. So you think if if you

3273
02:18:49,679 --> 02:18:51,519
know one sick you get if you get you

3274
02:18:51,519 --> 02:18:52,000
know

3275
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:53,120
>> if you get a chart of it

3276
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:53,519
>> right

3277
02:18:53,519 --> 02:18:58,549
>> that is that's a little that's a little

3278
02:18:58,559 --> 02:19:00,960
» but we so we just have to balance it out

3279
02:19:00,960 --> 02:19:03,840
with the expense of right

3280
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:07,120
>> but the expenses already challenge it

3281
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:08,639
>> yes because you know sometime people are

3282
02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:13,679
not conscious of a there I got a ticket

3283
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:17,040
on the bus and I think that um get away

3284
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:18,160
with Okay.

3285
02:19:18,160 --> 02:19:20,080
>> Yeah, that we may want to consider that

3286
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:25,349
because there's 600 outstanding.

3287
02:19:25,359 --> 02:19:26,319
» Yeah.

3288
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:28,719
>> Any other question regarding this?

3289
02:19:28,719 --> 02:19:30,719
>> We have any more questions?

3290
02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:34,240
>> I was going to ask you all

3291
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:36,240
one more inventory.

3292
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:37,920
>> Mhm.

3293
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:38,719
you never been.

3294
02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:40,960
>> Would it be

3295
02:19:40,960 --> 02:19:47,190
with regards to the detail and it um pre

3296
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:49,439
would it be unfair to say that um if we

3297
02:19:49,439 --> 02:19:56,319
were to say okay 50 details for you that would help and at the same time as

3298
02:19:56,319 --> 02:19:59,040
we do that we will have to increase here

3299
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:01,920
to match whatever is collected

3300
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:06,080
but right now we spend $24,000 $25,000

3301
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:09,680
for uh revenue 400,000.

3302
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:12,319
If we were to say let's double it and

3303
02:20:12,319 --> 02:20:15,359
set aside $50,000 for the time to kind,

3304
02:20:15,359 --> 02:20:19,120
you know, to do to cover those details,

3305
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:22,720
will that be a a big haul?

3306
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:25,600
>> Do we mean that it could be done? Maybe

3307
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:29,990
so never

3308
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,359
we're we're we're putting over time

3309
02:20:31,359 --> 02:20:33,280
there so the officers aware that we have

3310
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:34,880
no time to cover that. It's not like,

3311
02:20:34,880 --> 02:20:36,800
"Okay, we'll go to work.

3312
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:41,910
>> We'll figure out where we

3313
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,800
27 so far this year and um I think he

3314
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:48,870
said 42

3315
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:50,240
he did for me for next year."

3316
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:54,389
>> So, I'm right there

3317
02:20:54,399 --> 02:20:59,030
later. Yeah.

3318
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:00,479
» I'm think I'm thinking he helping on

3319
02:21:00,479 --> 02:21:03,680
this. So I'll I'll you know

3320
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:05,760
>> any other question for

3321
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,160
>> So I just wanted to make clear. So if we

3322
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:11,760
increase the um and based on the number

3323
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:15,359
so far we would get how much we take in

3324
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:16,720
to the

3325
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:21,520
>> 220 it will be it would be like40,000

3326
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:24,960
but we'll have to take £50,000.

3327
02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:25,840
minus 50.

3328
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:27,200
>> Okay.

3329
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:28,880
>> We taking in revenue, but we have to put

3330
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:30,960
some money there if it ends taking money

3331
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:33,120
and that um topping out the over.

3332
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:34,560
>> So, I'm sorry. Could you just tell me

3333
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,439
again the line I was trying that is a 26

3334
02:21:37,439 --> 02:21:41,030
fan?

3335
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:42,319
» And so you're thinking

3336
02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:44,720
>> Yeah, we'll discuss that when we get

3337
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:49,990
into the third

3338
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:52,000
one.

3339
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:54,080
this like the detailed breakdown on the

3340
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:57,110
scal

3341
02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:01,510
that's

3342
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:03,840
trying to clear too much out there

3343
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,800
people know that you know

3344
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:08,000
>> it's not like you're not hiding you're

3345
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:09,439
not hiding anything

3346
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:12,319
>> yeah everyone's watch

3347
02:22:12,319 --> 02:22:14,560
you know paperwork

3348
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:16,479
any other

3349
02:22:16,479 --> 02:22:17,760
thank you both so much

3350
02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:20,000
>> thank you thank you for coming back and

3351
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:21,840
Oh,

3352
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:33,349
good guidance.

3353
02:22:33,359 --> 02:22:35,359
» Mr. Motor, you want to take a break?

3354
02:22:35,359 --> 02:22:37,439
>> Yeah, we can just before we take a

3355
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:44,070
break.

3356
02:22:44,080 --> 02:22:45,760
» Yes, if you don't mind. Yes, we need

3357
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:47,760
that from you. We'll take a break. What

3358
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:49,520
time do you think we are going to try to

3359
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:54,150
have a hard stop this evening?

3360
02:22:54,160 --> 02:22:56,880
» What time do you want to go?

3361
02:22:56,880 --> 02:22:59,680
>> I just

3362
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:02,080
>> Oh,

3363
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:05,120
>> I was kind of thinking 8:30, but

3364
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,280
>> it's

3365
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:10,000
not

3366
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:15,110
just starting to get a little

3367
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:17,520
pushed.

3368
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:19,439
school.

3369
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:21,280
>> Yeah, I think the best thing will be if

3370
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:23,840
council give me an email for whatever

3371
02:23:23,840 --> 02:23:26,560
changes do so then I can then put into

3372
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:29,200
an Excel spreadsheet for Friday's

3373
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:32,399
meeting or tomorrow night.

3374
02:23:32,399 --> 02:23:34,399
>> There's the reason why I doing a little

3375
02:23:34,399 --> 02:23:38,240
>> we should probably um line by line.

3376
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:41,600
No, we line by line we did one of the

3377
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:44,880
recommended um recommended changes that

3378
02:23:44,880 --> 02:23:46,800
was subjected to the back and forward

3379
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:51,280
we'll do in the column proposed budget

3380
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:55,040
we'll list it as council proposed

3381
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:55,760
proposal

3382
02:23:55,760 --> 02:24:00,070
>> right what we usually do

3383
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:01,920
» so all the proposal that was submitted

3384
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:05,520
to you we have them so insert those into

3385
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:06,319
so they can

3386
02:24:06,319 --> 02:24:08,640
>> unless we disagree with some films from

3387
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:12,080
the December second Friday. It is to

3388
02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:13,680
discuss it, but we want to see where we

3389
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:14,319
lie.

3390
02:24:14,319 --> 02:24:15,840
>> So, what else do we need to do tonight

3391
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:16,720
then

3392
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:19,120
>> if we're

3393
02:24:19,120 --> 02:24:20,319
doing that tonight? You're going to have

3394
02:24:20,319 --> 02:24:22,000
him go back to his office and give us

3395
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:23,359
that.

3396
02:24:23,359 --> 02:24:25,760
>> I'm sorry. I'm not understanding.

3397
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:28,080
>> All council changes will be consolidated

3398
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:29,120
to one.

3399
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:32,000
>> Right.

3400
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,000
>> The council mayors.

3401
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:37,840
>> Right. Right. Right. No, no, no, no, no.

3402
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,760
First,

3403
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,359
let's do it how we used to have them in

3404
02:24:41,359 --> 02:24:43,439
the past.

3405
02:24:43,439 --> 02:24:46,560
Proposed budget. We insert a column.

3406
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,720
We're not doing a separate tree. We

3407
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:52,240
just, you know, listed line, you know,

3408
02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:53,920
line by line going down whichever they

3409
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:56,160
propose changes against those line. We

3410
02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:57,359
did we're doing the same thing to the

3411
02:24:57,359 --> 02:24:59,680
revenue too. We maintain the mayor's

3412
02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:03,680
budget as we're going to weed and we're

3413
02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:05,040
putting the council

3414
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:05,520
>> council

3415
02:25:05,520 --> 02:25:08,160
>> proposal. So we want comparison and okay

3416
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:09,760
with it and then we have a separate

3417
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:13,120
torture may proposal city council

3418
02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:15,760
proposal and this is a new total

3419
02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:16,240
>> so

3420
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:19,120
>> we will discuss that Friday then we say

3421
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,280
you don't you don't like it you like it

3422
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:23,120
and then we'll move forward and then we

3423
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:24,960
talk about it at that point we need to

3424
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:26,880
move forward now because we like the

3425
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:28,399
show papers that's right

3426
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:30,640
>> and we do not have numbers to actually

3427
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:32,319
look at and see where where the actual

3428
02:25:32,319 --> 02:25:33,520
changes need

3429
02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:35,520
>> so so consolidated

3430
02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:37,760
email from for all two years. So we're

3431
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:39,520
not looking at hundreds of emails trying

3432
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:41,120
to put everything together.

3433
02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:46,319
>> I mean I mean we have most of the emails

3434
02:25:46,319 --> 02:25:47,680
>> but we just have some more basic

3435
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:48,720
discussion here. We're going to have

3436
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:50,479
some more. Okay.

3437
02:25:50,479 --> 02:25:52,560
>> It's Michael's.

3438
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:54,640
>> I can cut and paste all the emails.

3439
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:57,280
>> Oh wait, is that

3440
02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,920
>> No, we can discuss this discussion.

3441
02:25:59,920 --> 02:26:00,160
>> So

3442
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:03,200
>> well people in the room so it's really

3443
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:06,479
no negotiation. trying to formalize how

3444
02:26:06,479 --> 02:26:09,280
we get the report if

3445
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:11,680
so because we need to we need to look at

3446
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:18,389
numbers and we need to look at um

3447
02:26:18,399 --> 02:26:26,469
a lot of people make recommendation

3448
02:26:26,479 --> 02:26:34,550
I'm going to make some

3449
02:26:34,560 --> 02:39:34,550
I don't you

3450
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:36,000
this thing in order.

3451
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:38,080
>> That's what I

3452
02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:39,680
in terms of my revenue. You go through

3453
02:39:39,680 --> 02:39:41,600
yours in the meantime and try to see if

3454
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:44,720
we can get u

3455
02:39:44,720 --> 02:39:46,800
some traction.

3456
02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:48,399
>> So, are we done with the revenue part

3457
02:39:48,399 --> 02:39:48,960
yet?

3458
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:50,160
>> No, we're not. We're about to start it.

3459
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:51,760
I am going to start my revenue. I'm

3460
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:55,439
going to make my recommendation.

3461
02:39:55,439 --> 02:39:57,520
>> Shut up and set up. I need to make some

3462
02:39:57,520 --> 02:40:23,110
post.

3463
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:25,680
» You have to take this out. You have you

3464
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:27,359
have a copy you have a copy of my email

3465
02:40:27,359 --> 02:40:28,560
and I'm going to go through the email

3466
02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:35,110
that I sent. Everybody has a copy of it.

3467
02:40:35,120 --> 02:40:43,429
» This one

3468
02:40:43,439 --> 02:40:45,359
s

3469
02:40:45,359 --> 02:40:46,479
>> So I'm going to go through this and I'm

3470
02:40:46,479 --> 02:40:48,319
going to tell you which one I make a

3471
02:40:48,319 --> 02:40:49,840
judgment and which one I'm adding.

3472
02:40:49,840 --> 02:40:50,720
>> Okay.

3473
02:40:50,720 --> 02:40:52,319
>> Well, the first one I'm keeping it as

3474
02:40:52,319 --> 02:40:57,110
is.

3475
02:40:57,120 --> 02:40:58,399
It's

3476
02:40:58,399 --> 02:41:01,680
>> 10:02. I'm just saying. Okay. Oh, you

3477
02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:03,359
>> get the email that everybody has a copy

3478
02:41:03,359 --> 02:41:05,840
of this. And then the next one is at um

3479
02:41:05,840 --> 02:41:10,080
A 1116. I'm sticking with that.

3480
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:12,560
>> Okay. You're not there yet.

3481
02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:14,000
>> So, I'm just trying I'm going to put a

3482
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:18,830
call.

3483
02:41:18,840 --> 02:41:20,240
[Music]

3484
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:23,359
>> So, you're thinking of reducing?

3485
02:41:23,359 --> 02:41:37,110
No, I'm not reducing

3486
02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:41,030
» Mr.

3487
02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:45,439
Yes, that is a reduction from 2.850 to

3488
02:41:45,439 --> 02:41:50,230
$2 million,000.

3489
02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:51,760
That's my recommendation back to the

3490
02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:53,840
general fund. Yep.

3491
02:41:53,840 --> 02:41:57,830
>> The A116

3492
02:41:57,840 --> 02:42:02,150
increase that to 300,000.

3493
02:42:02,160 --> 02:42:04,800
The one I had um waiting on the PD

3494
02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:08,000
presentation and I just asked the PD

3495
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:09,760
what their estimate is and they're

3496
02:42:09,760 --> 02:42:12,240
looking at um 42 details. I asked for

3497
02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:14,800
50. I'm sorry. Which one was By the way,

3498
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:15,439
that

3499
02:42:15,439 --> 02:42:23,590
>> A2610B?

3500
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:25,520
» I'm sorry. Can you say it again, please?

3501
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:27,760
>> Um, would it be would it be wise for you

3502
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:29,439
to use the email that I sent to you?

3503
02:42:29,439 --> 02:42:31,200
>> I'm looking at it. I am looking. I just

3504
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:32,479
want to tell you that because the last

3505
02:42:32,479 --> 02:42:35,359
one you just said cannabis.

3506
02:42:35,359 --> 02:42:37,680
>> Well, I caught the number there. I'm

3507
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:38,560
just

3508
02:42:38,560 --> 02:42:40,479
>> But it's supposed to be you said you

3509
02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:42,319
said like like a different number than

3510
02:42:42,319 --> 02:42:44,399
what it actually you said the 300k. But

3511
02:42:44,399 --> 02:42:45,840
what you really want to do is increase

3512
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:46,720
it to 1 million.

3513
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:49,200
>> Yeah, but it's 7 700,000 currently.

3514
02:42:49,200 --> 02:42:52,399
>> I just going to put them the 1 million

3515
02:42:52,399 --> 02:42:55,040
>> down instead of 300,000

3516
02:42:55,040 --> 02:42:56,720
>> cuz she's I'm trying to be effective

3517
02:42:56,720 --> 02:42:58,880
here tonight because we're going to push

3518
02:42:58,880 --> 02:43:00,800
back and forth like this.

3519
02:43:00,800 --> 02:43:03,200
I'm not just trying to understand. I I

3520
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:05,439
think that you said 300,000, but you

3521
02:43:05,439 --> 02:43:07,439
wrote 1 million and it's 1 million

3522
02:43:07,439 --> 02:43:09,439
>> plus 300,000 would bring it to 1

3523
02:43:09,439 --> 02:43:10,000
million.

3524
02:43:10,000 --> 02:43:11,920
>> I got I got that. I know what you're

3525
02:43:11,920 --> 02:43:14,560
trying to increase to a million

3526
02:43:14,560 --> 02:43:17,280
parenthesis. Why am I 300 away from his

3527
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:19,359
sheet? Just use your book here and see

3528
02:43:19,359 --> 02:43:20,880
what's there. How much he wants to

3529
02:43:20,880 --> 02:43:21,200
increase?

3530
02:43:21,200 --> 02:43:24,960
>> So a 116

3531
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:27,040
>> increasing increase to a million dollar

3532
02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:30,720
and that's adding $300,000. Okay. A

3533
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:32,479
2610B

3534
02:43:32,479 --> 02:43:34,399
my notice was to wait on the PD

3535
02:43:34,399 --> 02:43:36,319
recommendation. I'm sorry the

3536
02:43:36,319 --> 02:43:37,280
presentation.

3537
02:43:37,280 --> 02:43:37,680
>> Yeah.

3538
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,920
>> And they're looking next year to have 50

3539
02:43:39,920 --> 02:43:44,550
details. They did 27

3540
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:47,920
for 42 details. I asked what would be

3541
02:43:47,920 --> 02:43:52,160
50. Currently they $219,000

3542
02:43:52,160 --> 02:43:53,439
with time.

3543
02:43:53,439 --> 02:43:56,720
>> So I'm looking to add revenue of 440,000

3544
02:43:56,720 --> 02:44:00,399
there. On which on line 26 10 A or B?

3545
02:44:00,399 --> 02:44:02,000
>> B.

3546
02:44:02,000 --> 02:44:03,920
>> You're adding how much?

3547
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:06,399
>> 400 $440,000.

3548
02:44:06,399 --> 02:44:07,520
>> You're adding that. Okay.

3549
02:44:07,520 --> 02:44:11,359
>> Adding 440,000 to that line

3550
02:44:11,359 --> 02:44:15,760
plus and then adding $50,000 to over

3551
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:19,269
time line.

3552
02:44:19,279 --> 02:44:21,279
So I have to do a little bit of note

3553
02:44:21,279 --> 02:44:22,080
here.

3554
02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:23,680
>> Yeah. So correction here. Which which

3555
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:25,760
over time are you having online?

3556
02:44:25,760 --> 02:44:29,200
>> In the very same in the very same um

3557
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:30,000
>> traffic.

3558
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:32,319
>> Is it this is traffic? So over time on

3559
02:44:32,319 --> 02:44:34,160
the traffic.

3560
02:44:34,160 --> 02:44:38,469
Would that be would that be correct?

3561
02:44:38,479 --> 02:44:41,200
» So would it be easier if you like

3562
02:44:41,200 --> 02:44:42,720
increased all your revenue and then

3563
02:44:42,720 --> 02:44:44,560
where your increases come in the budget?

3564
02:44:44,560 --> 02:44:45,120
But

3565
02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:46,560
>> I have to do it at the same time.

3566
02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:47,760
>> You have to. Okay.

3567
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:49,359
>> So in and out. Yeah. This one. This one

3568
02:44:49,359 --> 02:44:50,880
here. This is the only one has in and

3569
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:51,200
out.

3570
02:44:51,200 --> 02:44:53,279
>> Okay. because we we're potentially

3571
02:44:53,279 --> 02:44:54,960
looking at generating more revenue, but

3572
02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:56,640
it comes with the cost.

3573
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:58,800
>> So that you know what the line number is

3574
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:02,550
on the overtime?

3575
02:45:02,560 --> 02:45:03,920
» So I'm just going to have to look for

3576
02:45:03,920 --> 02:45:05,680
it. Police department.

3577
02:45:05,680 --> 02:45:07,439
>> We can wait to find it before we move

3578
02:45:07,439 --> 02:45:09,359
on.

3579
02:45:09,359 --> 02:45:13,520
>> Um let's see. So that was

3580
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:15,760
um 2610m

3581
02:45:15,760 --> 02:45:21,429
the parking fun. So I got to go there.

3582
02:45:21,439 --> 02:45:24,240
adding 440,000 here

3583
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:26,000
>> to 2610B.

3584
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:27,279
>> Mhm.

3585
02:45:27,279 --> 02:45:29,040
>> And then timeline.

3586
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:31,680
>> I'll get it later from the line.

3587
02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:32,479
>> Okay.

3588
02:45:32,479 --> 02:45:33,439
>> On the traffic.

3589
02:45:33,439 --> 02:45:36,960
>> We don't have it yet.

3590
02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:48,309
>> I got the 44,000.

3591
02:45:48,319 --> 02:45:52,630
So

3592
02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:57,269
the floor fire

3593
02:45:57,279 --> 02:45:58,720
is that 400 what?

3594
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:03,349
>> 440,000

3595
02:46:03,359 --> 02:46:06,160
got the police department starts in

3596
02:46:06,160 --> 02:46:07,840
3120. Um

3597
02:46:07,840 --> 02:46:14,230
>> thank you guys.

3598
02:46:14,240 --> 02:46:18,640
Are you are you saying parking 83320?

3599
02:46:18,640 --> 02:46:20,800
>> That would be under parking or that

3600
02:46:20,800 --> 02:46:25,110
would be under u

3601
02:46:25,120 --> 02:46:26,720
parking fine. I'm assuming it's under

3602
02:46:26,720 --> 02:46:30,710
araid

3603
02:46:30,720 --> 02:46:34,080
on the matter. Uh would that be under um

3604
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:38,880
field service or would that be under um

3605
02:46:38,880 --> 02:46:40,800
>> he said he would be under parking

3606
02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:43,910
>> parking?

3607
02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:46,560
» Fine. So I would assume he's parking.

3608
02:46:46,560 --> 02:46:49,200
>> Yes.

3609
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:51,279
>> Looking for the expense line.

3610
02:46:51,279 --> 02:46:52,479
>> I'm looking at the expense line.

3611
02:46:52,479 --> 02:46:54,720
>> A3320 parking.

3612
02:46:54,720 --> 02:46:57,520
>> Your timeline is 112.

3613
02:46:57,520 --> 02:46:59,040
>> What was the number? What was the number

3614
02:46:59,040 --> 02:46:59,600
again? Please

3615
02:46:59,600 --> 02:47:00,160
>> got it. I got it.

3616
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:04,630
>> 833. It's on page 383320.

3617
02:47:04,640 --> 02:47:05,200
» Yep.

3618
02:47:05,200 --> 02:47:11,910
>> Um can we confirm?

3619
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:13,840
» So we can always we can always adjust

3620
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:14,640
the numbers.

3621
02:47:14,640 --> 02:47:17,359
>> So we're adding instead of 125 we'd be

3622
02:47:17,359 --> 02:47:20,000
proposing

3623
02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:22,080
>> sorry 320

3624
02:47:22,080 --> 02:47:24,319
>> 3320112

3625
02:47:24,319 --> 02:47:25,600
is the overtime line.

3626
02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:26,800
>> Right.

3627
02:47:26,800 --> 02:47:28,240
>> I'm just looking for the figure.

3628
02:47:28,240 --> 02:47:29,359
>> Yeah. But this might not be the right.

3629
02:47:29,359 --> 02:47:31,120
This is like parking like people who

3630
02:47:31,120 --> 02:47:33,600
move the meter and things like that.

3631
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:36,800
This detail is more like um patrol,

3632
02:47:36,800 --> 02:47:37,359
>> right?

3633
02:47:37,359 --> 02:47:41,439
>> This is patrol. That's why I feel sorry.

3634
02:47:41,439 --> 02:47:44,880
>> He did say those fines of 900 because

3635
02:47:44,880 --> 02:47:47,040
those fines of those 27 details

3636
02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:50,319
collected are in the 910,000

3637
02:47:50,319 --> 02:47:52,880
lines.

3638
02:47:52,880 --> 02:47:54,479
So,

3639
02:47:54,479 --> 02:47:58,080
>> so I think this this has to be an A31 22

3640
02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:00,720
1112

3641
02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:02,640
>> A31

3642
02:48:02,640 --> 02:48:04,319
>> 22 1112

3643
02:48:04,319 --> 02:48:06,800
>> 312

3644
02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:08,479
112

3645
02:48:08,479 --> 02:48:10,000
>> A

3646
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:11,760
21 22

3647
02:48:11,760 --> 02:48:14,640
>> 112 So that's page 33 everybody.

3648
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:17,520
>> Right. Okay. And right now I'm asking um

3649
02:48:17,520 --> 02:48:23,190
for us to add 50,000 there.

3650
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:23,840
Yes,

3651
02:48:23,840 --> 02:48:24,960
>> we're adding an expense

3652
02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:34,309
>> and we're adding 440,000 until A 2016.

3653
02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:37,520
» You want to go back to uh

3654
02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:39,040
B.

3655
02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:42,399
So this is um 440 plus

3656
02:48:42,399 --> 02:48:44,640
>> Oh yeah, I got that. 910 plus 440

3657
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:46,560
>> 440

3658
02:48:46,560 --> 02:48:49,600
the following. Thank you.

3659
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:55,349
So let's move to the next line 82668.

3660
02:48:55,359 --> 02:48:57,279
I'm asking for us to maintain the same

3661
02:48:57,279 --> 02:49:02,479
as 2025 4.5 million into 2026

3662
02:49:02,479 --> 02:49:05,680
and that will be an increase of 1.5 mill

3663
02:49:05,680 --> 02:49:07,840
>> and you just skipped over the liquid

3664
02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:10,960
park. Oh, sorry. Sorry.

3665
02:49:10,960 --> 02:49:14,240
>> The new 2610

3666
02:49:14,240 --> 02:49:14,800
and

3667
02:49:14,800 --> 02:49:17,120
>> yeah, sorry. Let me go back. Initially,

3668
02:49:17,120 --> 02:49:18,800
I asked for um

3669
02:49:18,800 --> 02:49:22,399
>> Initially I had asked for um

3670
02:49:22,399 --> 02:49:26,080
for that to go up to 232,000,

3671
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:28,800
>> but I'm going to ask to increase that to

3672
02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:30,319
130,000.

3673
02:49:30,319 --> 02:49:32,960
>> It's It's at 170.

3674
02:49:32,960 --> 02:49:35,680
>> Yes. No, 170 plus 130.

3675
02:49:35,680 --> 02:49:36,880
>> Okay. Thanks.

3676
02:49:36,880 --> 02:49:40,640
>> The 300. Not the 500k plus not the 500k.

3677
02:49:40,640 --> 02:49:45,510
So that mean I would like to bring it to

3678
02:49:45,520 --> 02:49:48,319
133

3679
02:49:48,319 --> 02:49:54,870
>> 300,000 instead of one one um 170

3680
02:49:54,880 --> 02:49:58,640
home sales maintain the same as 2025

3681
02:49:58,640 --> 02:50:00,960
million into 2026 and that's an increase

3682
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:04,870
of 1.5.

3683
02:50:04,880 --> 02:50:07,279
The next one is 83005

3684
02:50:07,279 --> 02:50:10,950
mortgage tax.

3685
02:50:10,960 --> 02:50:13,840
I'm ask I'm asking my proposal. This is

3686
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:19,590
my proposal to increase that to 410,000.

3687
02:50:19,600 --> 02:50:23,439
» Increase it by 450,000 to 1.4 million.

3688
02:50:23,439 --> 02:50:27,600
>> That is correct. It's proposed at 950

3689
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:31,760
450 increase. So what what is it? It's

3690
02:50:31,760 --> 02:50:34,560
at um It's at 9:50.

3691
02:50:34,560 --> 02:50:36,080
>> That was 950.

3692
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:38,240
>> No, it's 9:50.

3693
02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:41,520
>> So, is it 410 or 450?

3694
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:44,319
>> 450.

3695
02:50:44,319 --> 02:50:45,840
>> It's just 950. Well, when you get all

3696
02:50:45,840 --> 02:50:47,600
the way through the end, although

3697
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:48,479
there's a total.

3698
02:50:48,479 --> 02:50:53,269
>> So, 450 plus 950

3699
02:50:53,279 --> 02:50:57,279
» and that will bring us to 1.4.

3700
02:50:57,279 --> 02:50:58,160
>> Okay.

3701
02:50:58,160 --> 02:51:00,080
>> Now, the totals.

3702
02:51:00,080 --> 02:51:06,080
>> Yes. is now now handsome. So based on today's um

3703
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:07,120
>> Oh, you got to add

3704
02:51:07,120 --> 02:51:09,680
>> conversation. I'm going to add more to

3705
02:51:09,680 --> 02:51:10,319
the sheet.

3706
02:51:10,319 --> 02:51:11,040
>> Mhm.

3707
02:51:11,040 --> 02:51:15,120
>> So a 2610 m

3708
02:51:15,120 --> 02:51:17,920
a 2610

3709
02:51:17,920 --> 02:51:20,399
>> M. That's bus patrol.

3710
02:51:20,399 --> 02:51:21,359
>> Mhm.

3711
02:51:21,359 --> 02:51:23,760
>> I am recommending that we add $200,000

3712
02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:26,640
away because we have $600,000 of

3713
02:51:26,640 --> 02:51:30,000
tickets. I'll just take $600,000. pick a

3714
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,319
target which is very conservative.

3715
02:51:32,319 --> 02:51:33,840
>> So please tell me that amount again. I

3716
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:34,240
just said

3717
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:35,359
>> 200,000.

3718
02:51:35,359 --> 02:51:37,359
>> So you want to add to the bed?

3719
02:51:37,359 --> 02:51:37,840
>> Yes.

3720
02:51:37,840 --> 02:51:40,640
>> So we're adding 200,000 to this line. We

3721
02:51:40,640 --> 02:51:44,160
can go back to the revenue line.

3722
02:51:44,160 --> 02:51:45,840
>> So what's that? How much you adding back

3723
02:51:45,840 --> 02:51:46,240
to that?

3724
02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:47,200
>> 200,000.

3725
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:49,600
>> 200 back to 600k.

3726
02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:50,319
>> Yes.

3727
02:51:50,319 --> 02:51:53,520
>> But right now it's 400.

3728
02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:55,680
>> We got a plus

3729
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:57,760
>> 200. That will bring it that will bring

3730
02:51:57,760 --> 02:51:59,279
it to 600K.

3731
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:01,439
>> Mhm.

3732
02:52:01,439 --> 02:52:03,600
>> Oh, 2610. Okay.

3733
02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:05,359
>> Yes. 2610.

3734
02:52:05,359 --> 02:52:07,279
>> And as in

3735
02:52:07,279 --> 02:52:12,319
the next one, um, on the snap

3736
02:52:12,319 --> 02:52:13,359
600.

3737
02:52:13,359 --> 02:52:15,520
>> On the snap,

3738
02:52:15,520 --> 02:52:19,279
we're asking to add 200,000 there.

3739
02:52:19,279 --> 02:52:21,359
>> Give me your money, please.

3740
02:52:21,359 --> 02:52:23,040
>> 1621.

3741
02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:27,429
That is a 217.

3742
02:52:27,439 --> 02:52:32,550
Oh, the CDBG CDBG 82170.

3743
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:33,920
This is what

3744
02:52:33,920 --> 02:52:39,830
>> 2002.

3745
02:52:39,840 --> 02:52:41,600
» Yeah, she wanted to keep.

3746
02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:43,920
>> So, we'll do 200,000 there on that line.

3747
02:52:43,920 --> 02:52:44,880
>> No, no, no.

3748
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:45,439
>> Alex,

3749
02:52:45,439 --> 02:52:48,160
>> no. She wanted to keep 10,000 10,000 out

3750
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:49,359
of the out of the

3751
02:52:49,359 --> 02:52:50,800
>> We didn't even touch your your sub.

3752
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:52,240
>> No, I know. I know. I No, no, no. I know

3753
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:53,680
what you're saying. But what what you're

3754
02:52:53,680 --> 02:52:54,880
saying is that she wanted to

3755
02:52:54,880 --> 02:53:00,710
>> I understand it's 200,000.

3756
02:53:00,720 --> 02:53:02,720
» Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

3757
02:53:02,720 --> 02:53:05,920
>> She said there was 2002,000 $55.

3758
02:53:05,920 --> 02:53:09,279
>> Yeah, but we're going to just say 200

3759
02:53:09,279 --> 02:53:12,160
finish 2,000 is going to go on.

3760
02:53:12,160 --> 02:53:13,279
>> Okay.

3761
02:53:13,279 --> 02:53:16,720
>> So that's um snap.

3762
02:53:16,720 --> 02:53:20,640
>> Yep. codes.

3763
02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:23,680
>> Thank you.

3764
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:25,439
>> 217

3765
02:53:25,439 --> 02:53:25,760
C.

3766
02:53:25,760 --> 02:53:30,560
>> Oh yes, she's 170,000

3767
02:53:30,560 --> 02:53:31,040
there.

3768
02:53:31,040 --> 02:53:31,359
>> Y

3769
02:53:31,359 --> 02:53:34,240
>> So that would be 300 on the table.

3770
02:53:34,240 --> 02:53:36,960
>> So that will uh currently it's 100,000.

3771
02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:39,760
So we'll plus 100,000 there too. And

3772
02:53:39,760 --> 02:53:45,030
that will be 300,000 there on that line.

3773
02:53:45,040 --> 02:53:45,680
» Okay.

3774
02:53:45,680 --> 02:53:48,870
>> Mhm.

3775
02:53:48,880 --> 02:53:51,279
here. So, I just asked this question

3776
02:53:51,279 --> 02:53:53,680
while we're doing this. Like in as far

3777
02:53:53,680 --> 02:53:56,399
as explanation, there was funds that

3778
02:53:56,399 --> 02:53:58,000
were sent from prior years. It's not

3779
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:00,399
like we're dealing with um recent stuff.

3780
02:54:00,399 --> 02:54:02,399
She said it had to be spending. So, I

3781
02:54:02,399 --> 02:54:03,520
don't want to get us in the position

3782
02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:05,040
where like we're let's leave a couple

3783
02:54:05,040 --> 02:54:07,520
thousand over there in years that can ex

3784
02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:08,560
that can expire.

3785
02:54:08,560 --> 02:54:11,279
>> She has to spend the oldest first, which

3786
02:54:11,279 --> 02:54:12,640
>> that's exactly what I'm talking about.

3787
02:54:12,640 --> 02:54:14,319
>> Right. So, expand.

3788
02:54:14,319 --> 02:54:15,840
>> So, you want to put the the first one in

3789
02:54:15,840 --> 02:54:18,080
on Snap. Do you want to put 202?

3790
02:54:18,080 --> 02:54:20,479
>> I I think we should. We're going to

3791
02:54:20,479 --> 02:54:20,880
fine.

3792
02:54:20,880 --> 02:54:23,520
>> So, sorry. Let's make adjustment. 202.

3793
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:24,560
>> Mhm.

3794
02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:25,200
>> Okay.

3795
02:54:25,200 --> 02:54:26,640
>> 2178

3796
02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:28,319
>> and code was 206.

3797
02:54:28,319 --> 02:54:29,279
>> 206.

3798
02:54:29,279 --> 02:54:29,760
>> Yes.

3799
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:31,600
>> Okay. Let's make that 206 then.

3800
02:54:31,600 --> 02:54:32,720
>> Mhm.

3801
02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:34,000
>> 306.

3802
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:38,240
>> Okay. So, that'll be 306

3803
02:54:38,240 --> 02:54:41,439
and snap is 202 because there's no fun

3804
02:54:41,439 --> 02:54:41,840
here.

3805
02:54:41,840 --> 02:54:42,640
>> Right.

3806
02:54:42,640 --> 02:54:45,680
>> Now, I wish I had completely then. Are

3807
02:54:45,680 --> 02:54:46,720
we good?

3808
02:54:46,720 --> 02:54:47,840
>> Yes.

3809
02:54:47,840 --> 02:54:51,910
>> Um,

3810
02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:56,790
capture.

3811
02:54:56,800 --> 02:54:57,279
» Yes.

3812
02:54:57,279 --> 02:54:58,560
>> Thank you.

3813
02:54:58,560 --> 02:55:04,080
>> Am I missing anything? No, I have all my

3814
02:55:04,080 --> 02:55:06,640
Did you Did you go over the allowable

3815
02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:07,840
tax?

3816
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:09,439
>> Yes, I did. Okay, cool.

3817
02:55:09,439 --> 02:55:11,920
>> Drop dropping by 850.

3818
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:14,560
>> But you add 800. bringing that down to 2

3819
02:55:14,560 --> 02:55:18,080
million and cannabis increasing that up

3820
02:55:18,080 --> 02:55:20,720
to a million.

3821
02:55:20,720 --> 02:55:23,840
>> The we have seven for the record. We

3822
02:55:23,840 --> 02:55:25,200
have seven. Oh,

3823
02:55:25,200 --> 02:55:27,120
>> so I I have I have more information on

3824
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:30,560
that if you want to hear it now.

3825
02:55:30,560 --> 02:55:34,560
>> Can So we do have seven that are active.

3826
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:37,359
There are 13 entirely

3827
02:55:37,359 --> 02:55:38,240
>> approved but not

3828
02:55:38,240 --> 02:55:39,600
>> approved but for whatever reason they're

3829
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:41,520
nonoperational. when they did it

3830
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:43,120
operational, we don't know.

3831
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:49,120
>> Um, and so in 2025,

3832
02:55:49,120 --> 02:55:52,399
we had one that opened uh in April and

3833
02:55:52,399 --> 02:55:54,960
another one that opened I'm not sure,

3834
02:55:54,960 --> 02:55:57,600
but I think that those open in January

3835
02:55:57,600 --> 02:56:01,279
and also January 9. So we had we had

3836
02:56:01,279 --> 02:56:03,680
three open in 2025.

3837
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:05,760
We had two that opened in the last

3838
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:08,960
quarter of 2024.

3839
02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:12,880
Um, so that's four and one, two, and

3840
02:56:12,880 --> 02:56:15,120
then one in the third report of 2024.

3841
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:18,560
And then Mr. the one up on Union Street,

3842
02:56:18,560 --> 02:56:20,960
he opened way back in 23 and it did so

3843
02:56:20,960 --> 02:56:21,840
long.

3844
02:56:21,840 --> 02:56:27,040
>> So in terms of capturing the um the

3845
02:56:27,040 --> 02:56:31,439
revenue so we're capturing you, we have

3846
02:56:31,439 --> 02:56:34,560
two quarters so far, right? So one of

3847
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:37,359
those was not the one that opened in

3848
02:56:37,359 --> 02:56:38,720
April.

3849
02:56:38,720 --> 02:56:42,000
We didn't have the first quarter. There

3850
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:46,399
was something that they

3851
02:56:46,399 --> 02:56:49,600
get the percentage and broken down and

3852
02:56:49,600 --> 02:56:52,880
the county sends us uh which goes to the

3853
02:56:52,880 --> 02:56:54,479
county that goes to us.

3854
02:56:54,479 --> 02:56:57,359
>> So we don't know which candy store.

3855
02:56:57,359 --> 02:56:58,800
>> I don't

3856
02:56:58,800 --> 02:57:02,080
>> Okay. Well, I on the post you find OCM

3857
02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:04,080
site that they did those 411. So, they

3858
02:57:04,080 --> 02:57:06,880
would not be included in 44, but the

3859
02:57:06,880 --> 02:57:08,560
second they would and all the rest of

3860
02:57:08,560 --> 02:57:11,600
them would be included. So, I guess my

3861
02:57:11,600 --> 02:57:14,319
question is raising that up to 1

3862
02:57:14,319 --> 02:57:16,000
million.

3863
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:18,960
It was 850,000. They took it back down

3864
02:57:18,960 --> 02:57:21,200
to 7 million. So, you think it's

3865
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:22,560
reasonable that we can go all the way to

3866
02:57:22,560 --> 02:57:23,920
I I just wanted I was going to go back

3867
02:57:23,920 --> 02:57:27,359
to home 800 when they brought down.

3868
02:57:27,359 --> 02:57:29,840
>> Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Okay.

3869
02:57:29,840 --> 02:57:31,040
>> Seven. It's seven stores.

3870
02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:33,200
>> It's seven stores, but it's not like the

3871
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:37,600
big that was my seventh story. Most four

3872
02:57:37,600 --> 02:57:38,880
of them are already open.

3873
02:57:38,880 --> 02:57:39,279
>> Yes.

3874
02:57:39,279 --> 02:57:41,200
>> So they that money is accounted for. We

3875
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:50,469
only open three injection.

3876
02:57:50,479 --> 02:57:51,840
» Thank you. Got it.

3877
02:57:51,840 --> 02:57:53,359
So there seven stories but we're

3878
02:57:53,359 --> 02:57:58,800
capturing remnants of four of them for a couple years

3879
02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:00,640
>> 800,000 right

3880
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:03,040
>> and then three open

3881
02:58:03,040 --> 02:58:06,240
>> three more for 200,000

3882
02:58:06,240 --> 02:58:07,840
>> but

3883
02:58:07,840 --> 02:58:09,040
they already included some of the

3884
02:58:09,040 --> 02:58:11,680
revenue I thought that's why I wanted

3885
02:58:11,680 --> 02:58:13,920
the dates so we can kind of get an idea

3886
02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:16,800
of like how much we could raise it so I

3887
02:58:16,800 --> 02:58:18,640
didn't I don't agree with taking it down

3888
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:21,200
I do think it should go back up but Um,

3889
02:58:21,200 --> 02:58:23,600
I guess I'm concerned if it goes another

3890
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:26,720
300,000. We only had one shorter account

3891
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:27,680
for it.

3892
02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:28,319
>> Went up.

3893
02:58:28,319 --> 02:58:29,840
>> It didn't. They took it down.

3894
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:33,359
>> They took it down. The mayor

3895
02:58:33,359 --> 02:58:35,439
get back.

3896
02:58:35,439 --> 02:58:37,200
>> Mr. Moon wants to take it to a million.

3897
02:58:37,200 --> 02:58:39,439
My question is it's a million too high.

3898
02:58:39,439 --> 02:58:41,840
>> Too much. That's my question because we

3899
02:58:41,840 --> 02:58:43,920
only have one store that wasn't

3900
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:46,479
incorporated in that one. Um, we're

3901
02:58:46,479 --> 02:58:47,840
paying attention for the situation

3902
02:58:47,840 --> 02:58:51,840
awareness. Two other stores locations

3903
02:58:51,840 --> 02:58:53,200
were approved by the planning

3904
02:58:53,200 --> 02:58:58,080
commission. One on upper upper upper

3905
02:58:58,080 --> 02:59:01,520
>> Broadway and then there's one key bank

3906
02:59:01,520 --> 02:59:03,680
by the wonder by the uh

3907
02:59:03,680 --> 02:59:06,240
>> Oh, yeah.

3908
02:59:06,240 --> 02:59:07,920
>> There seems to have been some activity

3909
02:59:07,920 --> 02:59:08,560
working on that.

3910
02:59:08,560 --> 02:59:09,279
>> Yes, it was.

3911
02:59:09,279 --> 02:59:10,560
>> Yes, they're still working. That's

3912
02:59:10,560 --> 02:59:13,120
right. 1610 Eastern Parkway is listed as

3913
02:59:13,120 --> 02:59:15,279
nonoperational but one. What was the

3914
02:59:15,279 --> 02:59:15,840
other one?

3915
02:59:15,840 --> 02:59:18,080
>> The one up on Broadway. Maybe it maybe

3916
02:59:18,080 --> 02:59:23,429
Wes Placeing

3917
02:59:23,439 --> 02:59:25,200
House.

3918
02:59:25,200 --> 02:59:27,520
>> It may be going instead of going

3919
02:59:27,520 --> 02:59:30,720
Broadway, maybe going to

3920
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:33,840
>> do you know the name of it? Because

3921
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:36,000
so basically

3922
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:37,439
17 Broadway.

3923
02:59:37,439 --> 02:59:39,279
>> Okay.

3924
02:59:39,279 --> 02:59:40,240
>> Well, but

3925
02:59:40,240 --> 02:59:43,760
>> yeah, that's it. I I do want to say I

3926
02:59:43,760 --> 02:59:45,680
mean I've noticed the decrease on Union

3927
02:59:45,680 --> 02:59:47,439
Street of people in line. I hope the

3928
02:59:47,439 --> 02:59:50,319
same amount of revenue will come in just

3929
02:59:50,319 --> 02:59:51,279
spreading across. Yeah,

3930
02:59:51,279 --> 02:59:52,880
>> it's spreading across. I don't think I

3931
02:59:52,880 --> 02:59:53,760
don't think there's going to be a

3932
02:59:53,760 --> 02:59:56,640
million dollars. Um especially with the

3933
02:59:56,640 --> 02:59:58,560
amount of municipalities that now people

3934
02:59:58,560 --> 03:00:01,200
go to Amsterdam, it's in Massachusetts,

3935
03:00:01,200 --> 03:00:03,200
it's in Troy, it's all over. So people

3936
03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:04,800
were coming here specifically and I

3937
03:00:04,800 --> 03:00:06,160
think those first two years we were able

3938
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:08,880
to capitalize on but I can't see it

3939
03:00:08,880 --> 03:00:10,800
going up that much. Let me ask

3940
03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:12,960
Massachusetts had it all before before

3941
03:00:12,960 --> 03:00:15,040
we even came with another story.

3942
03:00:15,040 --> 03:00:16,000
Massachusetts had it.

3943
03:00:16,000 --> 03:00:17,120
>> Oh, Massachusetts did.

3944
03:00:17,120 --> 03:00:19,680
>> It didn't affect the sale.

3945
03:00:19,680 --> 03:00:21,760
>> Can I can I ask a question of our

3946
03:00:21,760 --> 03:00:26,000
commissioner? Why then did we when with

3947
03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:27,760
the mayor's budget, why did it get

3948
03:00:27,760 --> 03:00:29,040
lowered?

3949
03:00:29,040 --> 03:00:31,200
>> Did we have more

3950
03:00:31,200 --> 03:00:34,319
acts in the first and second quarter

3951
03:00:34,319 --> 03:00:39,439
this year? And you know, we met by two

3952
03:00:39,439 --> 03:00:42,720
Oh yeah, I got I see it.

3953
03:00:42,720 --> 03:00:45,120
>> Gotcha.

3954
03:00:45,120 --> 03:00:48,960
>> I just want to again caution that

3955
03:00:48,960 --> 03:00:51,439
looking at you know increasing revenue

3956
03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:52,399
from the parks.

3957
03:00:52,399 --> 03:00:54,160
>> So we don't have these marks coming up

3958
03:00:54,160 --> 03:00:56,479
on balance. I mean that's a really low

3959
03:00:56,479 --> 03:00:59,279
occurren so we don't want to make the

3960
03:00:59,279 --> 03:01:00,399
city right.

3961
03:01:00,399 --> 03:01:03,200
>> No that's why I I think we should

3962
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:05,120
increase it back to where it was even in

3963
03:01:05,120 --> 03:01:08,160
participation of the store is open. I

3964
03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:11,760
I'm I'm cautious though.

3965
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:13,760
>> So can I just ask a question about

3966
03:01:13,760 --> 03:01:16,080
process here? Are because so John gave

3967
03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:18,000
what his

3968
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:20,479
recommendations are. Are we going to go

3969
03:01:20,479 --> 03:01:22,319
to each do each one of his or are we

3970
03:01:22,319 --> 03:01:25,359
going to give each one?

3971
03:01:25,359 --> 03:01:26,800
>> Okay. Cuz we're talking about

3972
03:01:26,800 --> 03:01:29,120
everybody's proposal and documenting it

3973
03:01:29,120 --> 03:01:30,880
so that the

3974
03:01:30,880 --> 03:01:33,120
>> finance team can have a path forward

3975
03:01:33,120 --> 03:01:35,840
because we need to get on numbers and

3976
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:38,240
look at real numbers

3977
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:40,000
>> and not look at these papers. And

3978
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:44,319
>> so just to John, would you consider um

3979
03:01:44,319 --> 03:01:46,080
not going to a million on that one

3980
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:46,800
particular?

3981
03:01:46,800 --> 03:01:50,160
>> Let's put it there. Okay. Then this is what we're going to talk about

3982
03:01:50,160 --> 03:01:51,920
>> on Friday. Okay. We'll talk about it on

3983
03:01:51,920 --> 03:01:52,800
Friday.

3984
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:53,760
>> Yes.

3985
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:55,680
>> I'm sorry.

3986
03:01:55,680 --> 03:01:58,640
>> Yeah. No, definitely. I just uh I just

3987
03:01:58,640 --> 03:02:01,760
need two more to complete what I have.

3988
03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:02,319
>> Okay.

3989
03:02:02,319 --> 03:02:05,439
>> What I have as as note for me the new

3990
03:02:05,439 --> 03:02:08,560
deployment we need to add 150,000 for

3991
03:02:08,560 --> 03:02:10,319
that line. But that's budget.

3992
03:02:10,319 --> 03:02:12,720
>> That's not that one being in general

3993
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:16,640
operating. So that's in the cloud.

3994
03:02:16,640 --> 03:02:19,279
Let's let's find

3995
03:02:19,279 --> 03:02:23,120
>> I just want to find the right to use

3996
03:02:23,120 --> 03:02:26,080
>> and then I also like to add um 40,000

3997
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:29,200
back to the senior the senior program

3998
03:02:29,200 --> 03:02:32,479
that's a 1989

3999
03:02:32,479 --> 03:02:34,000
499

4000
03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:37,600
>> a 1941

4001
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:39,890
>> page 30.

4002
03:02:39,890 --> 03:02:43,269
[Music]

4003
03:02:43,279 --> 03:02:43,760
» Yes.

4004
03:02:43,760 --> 03:02:45,279
>> Mhm.

4005
03:02:45,279 --> 03:02:47,040
We we need to fund our our senior

4006
03:02:47,040 --> 03:02:49,520
programs. I thought we kept one of the

4007
03:02:49,520 --> 03:02:54,000
fun over 70 people that just 70 with

4008
03:02:54,000 --> 03:02:58,880
bands not the pros at St. John's. I mean

4009
03:02:58,880 --> 03:03:04,469
they were

4010
03:03:04,479 --> 03:03:06,160
» okay. I I didn't even look at that line

4011
03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:08,720
cuz I it wasn't coming out of the budget

4012
03:03:08,720 --> 03:03:10,560
>> neutral. So, do we need to document that

4013
03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:12,399
we we're the council is making

4014
03:03:12,399 --> 03:03:16,560
recommendation for 150,000 um decline.

4015
03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:16,880
>> Yes.

4016
03:03:16,880 --> 03:03:19,520
>> I know it's we don't want to use a term

4017
03:03:19,520 --> 03:03:21,439
that it's in the cloud. We need we need

4018
03:03:21,439 --> 03:03:24,080
some documentation to show that this is

4019
03:03:24,080 --> 03:03:25,359
council recommendation.

4020
03:03:25,359 --> 03:03:25,840
>> Yeah.

4021
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:28,880
>> He's going to give us back a new I'm

4022
03:03:28,880 --> 03:03:31,200
asking the commissioner

4023
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:34,960
should we would like to document it

4024
03:03:34,960 --> 03:03:36,960
>> that this is this is going and right now

4025
03:03:36,960 --> 03:03:37,840
it's zero in the

4026
03:03:37,840 --> 03:03:40,000
>> must be on the park. So you could talk

4027
03:03:40,000 --> 03:03:42,080
to probably documentation for the

4028
03:03:42,080 --> 03:03:44,720
development fund. Um since it's not

4029
03:03:44,720 --> 03:03:48,080
going to be listed

4030
03:03:48,080 --> 03:03:50,319
um I'm sure she would work with the

4031
03:03:50,319 --> 03:03:55,750
council get some language in place.

4032
03:03:55,760 --> 03:03:58,000
» You okay with that? Yeah, because

4033
03:03:58,000 --> 03:04:00,240
whatever lines that she whatever funding

4034
03:04:00,240 --> 03:04:02,479
source she identified she'll just have

4035
03:04:02,479 --> 03:04:05,200
to might have to be done by legislation

4036
03:04:05,200 --> 03:04:07,040
or no because she said it's already calc

4037
03:04:07,040 --> 03:04:08,560
it's already it's already yeah and it's

4038
03:04:08,560 --> 03:04:10,240
budget neutral so she can do it she can

4039
03:04:10,240 --> 03:04:10,640
do it

4040
03:04:10,640 --> 03:04:11,760
>> yeah so yeah

4041
03:04:11,760 --> 03:04:13,439
>> so we are not going to touch this

4042
03:04:13,439 --> 03:04:15,600
document with that

4043
03:04:15,600 --> 03:04:18,160
>> it's not going to be showing the revenue

4044
03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:20,960
>> okay great we like know we do like this

4045
03:04:20,960 --> 03:04:21,439
>> we love that

4046
03:04:21,439 --> 03:04:22,560
>> okay great so I'm not even going to

4047
03:04:22,560 --> 03:04:24,720
worry about where is it in this packet

4048
03:04:24,720 --> 03:04:28,080
>> y Okay. So, what was next?

4049
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:30,800
>> Okay. That is my revenue.

4050
03:04:30,800 --> 03:04:32,800
Um, you say you want to go next to the

4051
03:04:32,800 --> 03:04:34,399
revenue. Please proceed. I'm going to

4052
03:04:34,399 --> 03:04:36,240
come back and expand it, but I give

4053
03:04:36,240 --> 03:04:38,080
everybody an opportunity to build a

4054
03:04:38,080 --> 03:04:38,960
little bit.

4055
03:04:38,960 --> 03:04:41,359
>> So, I guess with Derek's explanation,

4056
03:04:41,359 --> 03:04:43,600
I'm not in favor of decreasing the

4057
03:04:43,600 --> 03:04:45,760
allowance for uncollected taxes by any

4058
03:04:45,760 --> 03:04:48,790
amount. There are that high importance.

4059
03:04:48,790 --> 03:04:50,080
[Music]

4060
03:04:50,080 --> 03:04:54,800
>> It is. Oh, I'm sorry. 102 A102

4061
03:04:54,800 --> 03:04:56,640
can you I know you said it's about

4062
03:04:56,640 --> 03:05:00,479
giving us a very simple example um of

4063
03:05:00,479 --> 03:05:02,720
how that works by stand what it's in

4064
03:05:02,720 --> 03:05:05,359
that for can can you just explain a

4065
03:05:05,359 --> 03:05:07,040
little bit further cuz I I'm not in

4066
03:05:07,040 --> 03:05:11,680
favor of um lowering that at all

4067
03:05:11,680 --> 03:05:14,479
>> or how you account for it or is it just

4068
03:05:14,479 --> 03:05:15,920
>> yeah how you account for it where does

4069
03:05:15,920 --> 03:05:18,240
it end up what does it work and you know

4070
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:20,720
but I'm just I know why it has to be

4071
03:05:20,720 --> 03:05:23,760
Yeah. So

4072
03:05:23,760 --> 03:05:25,680
you look at the levity, it's basically

4073
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:27,680
receivable. It shows the total amount,

4074
03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:31,040
right? Um we book it, it's usually

4075
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:33,920
booked at year end. Um

4076
03:05:33,920 --> 03:05:37,040
for example, for 2026,

4077
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:39,040
um we'll book it in December for

4078
03:05:39,040 --> 03:05:44,230
whatever tax lean.

4079
03:05:44,240 --> 03:05:47,200
Um and then find out usually around

4080
03:05:47,200 --> 03:05:51,680
March of how much uncollected uh tax was

4081
03:05:51,680 --> 03:05:54,160
earned. Um so even though you see that

4082
03:05:54,160 --> 03:05:56,319
full amount of tax doesn't mean we're

4083
03:05:56,319 --> 03:05:59,359
actually paying that limit. uh we we

4084
03:05:59,359 --> 03:06:02,319
find out exactly all uncollected taxes

4085
03:06:02,319 --> 03:06:04,240
by March and that's why you see that

4086
03:06:04,240 --> 03:06:07,040
negative amount of the adopted budget or

4087
03:06:07,040 --> 03:06:10,479
proposed budget

4088
03:06:10,479 --> 03:06:14,319
>> but my number factor biggest as we as we

4089
03:06:14,319 --> 03:06:17,840
increase the the collection

4090
03:06:17,840 --> 03:06:20,240
>> both of them can go at the same time

4091
03:06:20,240 --> 03:06:22,800
>> one has to go up and one has to go down

4092
03:06:22,800 --> 03:06:24,960
>> well not necessarily

4093
03:06:24,960 --> 03:06:26,399
stop paying taxes

4094
03:06:26,399 --> 03:06:28,080
>> we're budgeting we're budgeting in

4095
03:06:28,080 --> 03:06:30,000
excess of $6 million

4096
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:33,200
>> in anticipation of collecting.

4097
03:06:33,200 --> 03:06:35,600
>> And we need to drop our uncollected too

4098
03:06:35,600 --> 03:06:37,359
in anticipation that we're going to

4099
03:06:37,359 --> 03:06:40,399
we're not going to have so much tax.

4100
03:06:40,399 --> 03:06:43,520
>> So that's how because we go up one has

4101
03:06:43,520 --> 03:06:45,520
to come down. Can't have both on the

4102
03:06:45,520 --> 03:06:48,960
same same

4103
03:06:48,960 --> 03:06:52,319
but that's my consense. So I I'm I'm not

4104
03:06:52,319 --> 03:06:57,359
in favor of decreasing um A10.

4105
03:06:57,359 --> 03:07:00,319
>> A 2610 B as in boy.

4106
03:07:00,319 --> 03:07:02,000
>> So now we have to come up with a new

4107
03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:08,469
problem.

4108
03:07:08,479 --> 03:07:10,000
I'll just call the number out.

4109
03:07:10,000 --> 03:07:12,960
>> Parking fines. So um

4110
03:07:12,960 --> 03:07:14,080
>> so I

4111
03:07:14,080 --> 03:07:15,120
>> which one of the parking fines?

4112
03:07:15,120 --> 03:07:19,760
>> A a uh 910,000. A 2610 B is in boy. Yes,

4113
03:07:19,760 --> 03:07:22,319
I I I I'm in favor of raising it

4114
03:07:22,319 --> 03:07:25,359
150,000, not the 400,000

4115
03:07:25,359 --> 03:07:27,439
>> only because at this point until we get

4116
03:07:27,439 --> 03:07:28,960
clarification of how we're going to

4117
03:07:28,960 --> 03:07:33,120
collect these uncollected whatever um

4118
03:07:33,120 --> 03:07:35,439
just I'm just not comfortable with it. I

4119
03:07:35,439 --> 03:07:37,760
know I know I I'm just being a little

4120
03:07:37,760 --> 03:07:39,680
bit more cautious because of these

4121
03:07:39,680 --> 03:07:41,279
revenues we increase and we already

4122
03:07:41,279 --> 03:07:44,000
start off the the 2027 budget in a

4123
03:07:44,000 --> 03:07:45,600
deficit if we don't make these revenue

4124
03:07:45,600 --> 03:07:49,760
figures. again. I'm just saying um

4125
03:07:49,760 --> 03:07:51,680
before you proceed to I just want to

4126
03:07:51,680 --> 03:07:54,640
clarify that

4127
03:07:54,640 --> 03:07:56,399
>> and I base my number based on the

4128
03:07:56,399 --> 03:07:58,240
competition they had over the days.

4129
03:07:58,240 --> 03:07:58,880
>> Yes.

4130
03:07:58,880 --> 03:08:01,040
>> So the detail that they did for this

4131
03:08:01,040 --> 03:08:04,319
year which was you know

4132
03:08:04,319 --> 03:08:09,279
>> my overall was 27. They did an internal

4133
03:08:09,279 --> 03:08:11,040
analysis by themselves and they looking

4134
03:08:11,040 --> 03:08:14,319
at 42.

4135
03:08:14,319 --> 03:08:14,720
So

4136
03:08:14,720 --> 03:08:16,960
>> based on the 42 day trail that they

4137
03:08:16,960 --> 03:08:18,640
planning for next year

4138
03:08:18,640 --> 03:08:21,120
>> the revenue is a part of that and that's

4139
03:08:21,120 --> 03:08:25,279
all I think number

4140
03:08:25,279 --> 03:08:26,000
50

4141
03:08:26,000 --> 03:08:31,040
>> that's 218 220 220 that's 240 minus the

4142
03:08:31,040 --> 03:08:32,800
50,000 and that's the information I

4143
03:08:32,800 --> 03:08:34,479
received from them I didn't add anything

4144
03:08:34,479 --> 03:08:37,600
else on top of that is pure this is pure

4145
03:08:37,600 --> 03:08:41,429
number based on their

4146
03:08:41,439 --> 03:08:44,319
yes they formula

4147
03:08:44,319 --> 03:08:45,680
And they didn't they didn't they didn't

4148
03:08:45,680 --> 03:08:48,319
factor it out over time but they did

4149
03:08:48,319 --> 03:08:51,439
mention that this this detail comes over

4150
03:08:51,439 --> 03:08:53,840
time. So if we're drawing revenue we

4151
03:08:53,840 --> 03:08:56,640
have to actually expendure

4152
03:08:56,640 --> 03:08:59,279
>> and that's only 50,000 because it's 24

4153
03:08:59,279 --> 03:09:00,479
to I wrote it out

4154
03:09:00,479 --> 03:09:02,399
>> and I wrote it all down as well but I

4155
03:09:02,399 --> 03:09:06,080
didn't get the same numbers you did from AC whipple.

4156
03:09:06,080 --> 03:09:11,439
>> This this is this is 218 almost 28.

4157
03:09:11,439 --> 03:09:12,720
>> I was

4158
03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:15,439
over time factor over time.

4159
03:09:15,439 --> 03:09:16,880
>> Just let me hear you on this. So, same

4160
03:09:16,880 --> 03:09:22,319
thing 218 for 414 vehicles for plus

4161
03:09:22,319 --> 03:09:25,200
>> net of that net gain of 130.

4162
03:09:25,200 --> 03:09:27,760
>> And this information is from the chief,

4163
03:09:27,760 --> 03:09:29,920
>> right?

4164
03:09:29,920 --> 03:09:32,880
So net net gain of 130 here and then

4165
03:09:32,880 --> 03:09:36,319
they're looking at um

4166
03:09:36,319 --> 03:09:38,560
year to date

4167
03:09:38,560 --> 03:09:42,800
um another 338 which makes 20

4168
03:09:42,800 --> 03:09:45,520
uh just say 270,000.

4169
03:09:45,520 --> 03:09:47,439
>> No, you have to take the full revenue,

4170
03:09:47,439 --> 03:09:47,760
>> right?

4171
03:09:47,760 --> 03:09:50,000
>> You can't factor out the cost. Yes, you

4172
03:09:50,000 --> 03:09:51,760
bring in the full revenue and then

4173
03:09:51,760 --> 03:09:53,200
>> later in the other part of the budget

4174
03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:54,000
we'll put the

4175
03:09:54,000 --> 03:09:55,760
>> revenue has to come in as 100% and then

4176
03:09:55,760 --> 03:09:57,520
you buy. So you can't you can't do both

4177
03:09:57,520 --> 03:09:59,279
in one. Okay.

4178
03:09:59,279 --> 03:10:01,520
>> So, you're saying

4179
03:10:01,520 --> 03:10:03,520
you're taking a 50 expenditure all the

4180
03:10:03,520 --> 03:10:05,040
time. That's what I did here.

4181
03:10:05,040 --> 03:10:08,479
>> But the reason with the 440 um and what

4182
03:10:08,479 --> 03:10:09,840
they're saying that we're going to get

4183
03:10:09,840 --> 03:10:12,560
was we have a net 130 this year and then

4184
03:10:12,560 --> 03:10:14,720
if they double that, it' be a net 260.

4185
03:10:14,720 --> 03:10:16,800
>> No, I think you're mixing it up. Uh no,

4186
03:10:16,800 --> 03:10:18,080
that is

4187
03:10:18,080 --> 03:10:23,040
>> 14 vehicles. 24 uh 20 27

4188
03:10:23,040 --> 03:10:24,960
>> That is 220,000.

4189
03:10:24,960 --> 03:10:27,840
times two double double

4190
03:10:27,840 --> 03:10:29,920
>> but minus the I'm just saying the net

4191
03:10:29,920 --> 03:10:32,240
gain he said was 130 so I'm just

4192
03:10:32,240 --> 03:10:34,560
doubling that for

4193
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:37,279
>> next year which would be 260 so I'm not

4194
03:10:37,279 --> 03:10:38,160
so

4195
03:10:38,160 --> 03:10:40,720
>> can't be 218,000US

4196
03:10:40,720 --> 03:10:42,640
24,000 is not 130

4197
03:10:42,640 --> 03:10:44,319
>> he he told us

4198
03:10:44,319 --> 03:10:46,160
>> 130 is a separate line is a separate

4199
03:10:46,160 --> 03:10:46,479
line

4200
03:10:46,479 --> 03:10:50,000
>> 6 months for the 6 months

4201
03:10:50,000 --> 03:10:51,520
>> detail

4202
03:10:51,520 --> 03:10:54,319
period was 130

4203
03:10:54,319 --> 03:10:56,240
64

4204
03:10:56,240 --> 03:10:58,160
>> and for the entire year from January to

4205
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:01,439
October 2017 till 218,000

4206
03:11:01,439 --> 03:11:02,880
>> and he's saying and he's saying that

4207
03:11:02,880 --> 03:11:04,560
we're going to double those details

4208
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:06,880
>> next year

4209
03:11:06,880 --> 03:11:08,479
double that revenue and then he takes

4210
03:11:08,479 --> 03:11:10,240
the expenditures out over

4211
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:11,760
>> I'm not worried about the expenditures

4212
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:15,439
I'm just worrying about the revenue

4213
03:11:15,439 --> 03:11:18,000
>> 218 and 218 is is

4214
03:11:18,000 --> 03:11:19,439
>> you really say 219

4215
03:11:19,439 --> 03:11:21,920
>> that's 44

4216
03:11:21,920 --> 03:11:24,240
what's already on the line is

4217
03:11:24,240 --> 03:11:25,040
It's 900.

4218
03:11:25,040 --> 03:11:26,880
>> No, this is not even in the budget. They

4219
03:11:26,880 --> 03:11:28,080
didn't account for this.

4220
03:11:28,080 --> 03:11:31,520
>> It's right here. It's 2610. I mean 26.

4221
03:11:31,520 --> 03:11:34,319
>> We have to call. It was included in the

4222
03:11:34,319 --> 03:11:37,670
chief said.

4223
03:11:37,680 --> 03:11:39,680
» This is something

4224
03:11:39,680 --> 03:11:41,760
said it was in the parking fines.

4225
03:11:41,760 --> 03:11:43,359
>> That's what he said.

4226
03:11:43,359 --> 03:11:46,240
>> I wrote it down. 2610B. I wrote down

4227
03:11:46,240 --> 03:11:48,160
what he said. 2610B.

4228
03:11:48,160 --> 03:11:50,960
>> Yes. And that's what I wrote here. But

4229
03:11:50,960 --> 03:11:54,319
it is already

4230
03:11:54,319 --> 03:11:56,560
another 440 minus the thing is

4231
03:11:56,560 --> 03:12:01,040
>> yeah just say this was not accounted for

4232
03:12:01,040 --> 03:12:02,880
>> well there seems the consensus of people

4233
03:12:02,880 --> 03:12:04,160
who thought that he did say that so I

4234
03:12:04,160 --> 03:12:05,680
guess

4235
03:12:05,680 --> 03:12:08,479
>> my question was direct to him

4236
03:12:08,479 --> 03:12:10,000
very clear that it is not

4237
03:12:10,000 --> 03:12:13,200
>> so so so this is what we do in this in

4238
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:14,880
the scenario that it's not there Dorin

4239
03:12:14,880 --> 03:12:16,240
you have one number in the scenario that

4240
03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:18,160
it is there you have another we move on

4241
03:12:18,160 --> 03:12:20,160
>> I Understand? Okay.

4242
03:12:20,160 --> 03:12:22,000
>> Because you're increasing it next year

4243
03:12:22,000 --> 03:12:23,760
as of that

4244
03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:26,399
>> doubling it which would be 440 but

4245
03:12:26,399 --> 03:12:28,640
there's already 910 on the line. Yes.

4246
03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:30,399
Let me see. I think I have this number.

4247
03:12:30,399 --> 03:12:33,359
Can we call or is that

4248
03:12:33,359 --> 03:12:37,030
just the number?

4249
03:12:37,040 --> 03:12:41,200
» So again I'm All right. So that's uh

4250
03:12:41,200 --> 03:12:44,399
>> Oh, I thought you were saying so.

4251
03:12:44,399 --> 03:12:46,080
>> So you want to increase it by 150. I

4252
03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:47,040
want to make sure I get your number

4253
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:49,040
right. I got to I'm going to see what was that?

4254
03:12:49,040 --> 03:12:54,160
>> You said 150 for 2610B. You want to add

4255
03:12:54,160 --> 03:12:58,000
15 comfortable with Mr. Mayor?

4256
03:12:58,000 --> 03:13:00,479
I suppose make sure Sam has the detail

4257
03:13:00,479 --> 03:13:03,200
and the detail together so that we're

4258
03:13:03,200 --> 03:13:04,960
not missing anything. So let's get your

4259
03:13:04,960 --> 03:13:07,040
number what you're proposing for the

4260
03:13:07,040 --> 03:13:08,080
parking

4261
03:13:08,080 --> 03:13:10,560
>> for the parking fine

4262
03:13:10,560 --> 03:13:14,000
150 from the 910

4263
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:16,000
>> 150 increase during

4264
03:13:16,000 --> 03:13:18,000
>> over the 910 correct

4265
03:13:18,000 --> 03:13:19,920
>> we doing anything with the expense line

4266
03:13:19,920 --> 03:13:20,720
though for retirement

4267
03:13:20,720 --> 03:13:22,960
>> we're not there yet but we will have to

4268
03:13:22,960 --> 03:13:24,720
because it will increase the staffing

4269
03:13:24,720 --> 03:13:26,120
cost

4270
03:13:26,120 --> 03:13:27,520
[Music]

4271
03:13:27,520 --> 03:13:31,510
>> so busy

4272
03:13:31,520 --> 03:13:33,920
» oh and delinquent parking funds

4273
03:13:33,920 --> 03:13:36,399
Oh, then that was just that one. Oh, the

4274
03:13:36,399 --> 03:13:38,800
bus patrol 2610 is in Nancy. I'm

4275
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:41,520
comfortable with that increase.

4276
03:13:41,520 --> 03:13:45,359
>> Um, sorry. I'm sorry. What increase

4277
03:13:45,359 --> 03:13:46,399
out there?

4278
03:13:46,399 --> 03:13:47,279
>> The bus patrol,

4279
03:13:47,279 --> 03:13:48,000
>> right?

4280
03:13:48,000 --> 03:13:50,720
>> So, increasing to 6. Okay. 600

4281
03:13:50,720 --> 03:13:52,960
>> 2.3 million. Of course, we're budgeting

4282
03:13:52,960 --> 03:13:54,000
that in.

4283
03:13:54,000 --> 03:13:55,520
>> Um, I'm anticipating that.

4284
03:13:55,520 --> 03:13:56,800
>> Which one are you on now, Dorine? I'm

4285
03:13:56,800 --> 03:13:58,160
sorry. I'm trying to write as fast as

4286
03:13:58,160 --> 03:13:59,200
>> Well, it's new.

4287
03:13:59,200 --> 03:13:59,520
>> Okay.

4288
03:13:59,520 --> 03:14:00,319
>> NW

4289
03:14:00,319 --> 03:14:02,000
>> and you're good with 2.3.

4290
03:14:02,000 --> 03:14:05,120
>> Well, yeah. I think that's all right. A

4291
03:14:05,120 --> 03:14:07,120
2660a

4292
03:14:07,120 --> 03:14:09,760
Oh, I I missed I missed some

4293
03:14:09,760 --> 03:14:12,080
>> 66.

4294
03:14:12,080 --> 03:14:14,880
>> I missed car's um recommendation. I will

4295
03:14:14,880 --> 03:14:17,359
not I I will not I will not go above 3

4296
03:14:17,359 --> 03:14:19,680
million. She sat here tonight and said

4297
03:14:19,680 --> 03:14:20,960
that that's what she was comfortable

4298
03:14:20,960 --> 03:14:26,550
with. A3005

4299
03:14:26,560 --> 03:14:29,359
>> Mortgage tax.

4300
03:14:29,359 --> 03:14:31,600
>> Uh 30005.

4301
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:34,239
Um only 200,000.

4302
03:14:34,239 --> 03:14:36,560
So what's How much is that? Um I only

4303
03:14:36,560 --> 03:14:39,680
want it to be 200,000. Oh, increase to

4304
03:14:39,680 --> 03:14:42,880
200,000. So 950 plus 200,000

4305
03:14:42,880 --> 03:14:45,600
>> is sort of around what Mr. Mur is

4306
03:14:45,600 --> 03:14:46,000
saying,

4307
03:14:46,000 --> 03:14:47,279
>> right?

4308
03:14:47,279 --> 03:14:51,040
>> 950 plus I I don't know. I need a total

4309
03:14:51,040 --> 03:14:53,920
>> 950. Sorry, it's very right now.

4310
03:14:53,920 --> 03:14:56,960
>> No, this this whole thing is get

4311
03:14:56,960 --> 03:14:57,680
the Toro.

4312
03:14:57,680 --> 03:14:58,960
>> I know. I'm just trying to write it down

4313
03:14:58,960 --> 03:15:04,000
myself, but All right. 950 and 200 is 1

4314
03:15:04,000 --> 03:15:05,600
050

4315
03:15:05,600 --> 03:15:09,279
or something just

4316
03:15:09,279 --> 03:15:11,920
>> I honestly think that um the casino

4317
03:15:11,920 --> 03:15:13,439
A3089

4318
03:15:13,439 --> 03:15:15,279
I I I really want to increase that

4319
03:15:15,279 --> 03:15:17,439
revenue

4320
03:15:17,439 --> 03:15:20,399
>> on what

4321
03:15:20,399 --> 03:15:22,880
>> I'm thinking 500,000 but

4322
03:15:22,880 --> 03:15:26,000
>> I don't know no go ahead put it down

4323
03:15:26,000 --> 03:15:27,439
this is this is where we going to start

4324
03:15:27,439 --> 03:15:29,120
to flow the number that's why I wanted

4325
03:15:29,120 --> 03:15:30,560
to flush it

4326
03:15:30,560 --> 03:15:32,560
and see where we're at we we're

4327
03:15:32,560 --> 03:15:34,560
>> I mean we have a lot of things going on

4328
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:37,760
in the city um a new hotel coming up

4329
03:15:37,760 --> 03:15:39,279
right there

4330
03:15:39,279 --> 03:15:41,279
>> um the event center and granted you know

4331
03:15:41,279 --> 03:15:42,399
people say they're not going to come to

4332
03:15:42,399 --> 03:15:44,560
the event center go to the casino but as

4333
03:15:44,560 --> 03:15:47,359
a casino go I agree with you

4334
03:15:47,359 --> 03:15:49,680
>> there's more weddings going on there uh

4335
03:15:49,680 --> 03:15:52,319
anyway if you don't mind can you give us

4336
03:15:52,319 --> 03:15:54,479
the a number for that

4337
03:15:54,479 --> 03:15:56,000
>> 3089

4338
03:15:56,000 --> 03:15:57,040
and that's revenue

4339
03:15:57,040 --> 03:16:01,040
>> H is in Henry H3 0

4340
03:16:01,040 --> 03:16:05,190
>> A3089H

4341
03:16:05,200 --> 03:16:06,560
» it's right here

4342
03:16:06,560 --> 03:16:09,840
>> on this page 12

4343
03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:11,680
question about this when I asked you

4344
03:16:11,680 --> 03:16:13,359
about that you said that was something

4345
03:16:13,359 --> 03:16:14,720
you couldn't touch because it was a

4346
03:16:14,720 --> 03:16:16,560
formula

4347
03:16:16,560 --> 03:16:19,120
so I think everybody needs to hear that

4348
03:16:19,120 --> 03:16:20,560
>> before we try to make

4349
03:16:20,560 --> 03:16:21,760
>> that's what we've been told that we

4350
03:16:21,760 --> 03:16:23,600
can't touch there's a formula we don't

4351
03:16:23,600 --> 03:16:26,640
know Eric that is a formula we don't

4352
03:16:26,640 --> 03:16:29,200
have a concrete

4353
03:16:29,200 --> 03:16:31,279
Yes, there's a formula on that

4354
03:16:31,279 --> 03:16:32,399
>> and that was the question.

4355
03:16:32,399 --> 03:16:35,120
>> Sometimes it goes up. It keep going up

4356
03:16:35,120 --> 03:16:36,560
every year.

4357
03:16:36,560 --> 03:16:38,080
>> But

4358
03:16:38,080 --> 03:16:39,920
yeah, so what is what is the basis for

4359
03:16:39,920 --> 03:16:41,359
changing? How is it increasing? Because

4360
03:16:41,359 --> 03:16:42,800
I I asked you that question. We can

4361
03:16:42,800 --> 03:16:43,200
increase

4362
03:16:43,200 --> 03:16:44,319
>> more more um

4363
03:16:44,319 --> 03:16:45,040
>> visitors

4364
03:16:45,040 --> 03:16:47,040
>> more visitors to the casino right now

4365
03:16:47,040 --> 03:16:48,399
the our revenue

4366
03:16:48,399 --> 03:16:50,800
>> more events, more hotels.

4367
03:16:50,800 --> 03:16:53,439
>> So that means our revenue is based on

4368
03:16:53,439 --> 03:16:54,960
what they take in. So what is the

4369
03:16:54,960 --> 03:16:56,399
formula? That means there's a formula.

4370
03:16:56,399 --> 03:16:57,680
So what is it?

4371
03:16:57,680 --> 03:16:59,279
>> Cuz that means we're anticipating more

4372
03:16:59,279 --> 03:17:00,640
people coming

4373
03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:02,399
>> and therefore there's a formula like

4374
03:17:02,399 --> 03:17:04,239
instead of having I don't know how many

4375
03:17:04,239 --> 03:17:06,239
people go there 50,000 last year we're

4376
03:17:06,239 --> 03:17:08,640
going to have 75 something that you can

4377
03:17:08,640 --> 03:17:09,600
follow up with us.

4378
03:17:09,600 --> 03:17:13,520
>> Yeah. I can see

4379
03:17:13,520 --> 03:17:16,880
it's broken up by municipalities.

4380
03:17:16,880 --> 03:17:19,600
>> Um

4381
03:17:19,600 --> 03:17:21,840
I believe we did

4382
03:17:21,840 --> 03:17:24,319
>> and the concessions was that received

4383
03:17:24,319 --> 03:17:26,000
the full amount. Yes.

4384
03:17:26,000 --> 03:17:28,239
>> And so I'm not disputing your amount. I

4385
03:17:28,239 --> 03:17:29,840
just want to make sure that

4386
03:17:29,840 --> 03:17:31,680
>> we're basing it on something complete

4387
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:33,520
where we can get there.

4388
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:35,040
>> Is this a time that we can ask a

4389
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:36,800
question of our commissioner? So my

4390
03:17:36,800 --> 03:17:39,279
question is listening to everything that

4391
03:17:39,279 --> 03:17:43,200
I just heard from my three colleagues.

4392
03:17:43,200 --> 03:17:47,120
>> Why then I I'm going to say so where did

4393
03:17:47,120 --> 03:17:50,080
we get the 4.1 proposed fee in the

4394
03:17:50,080 --> 03:17:52,479
mayor's proposed budget? That was also

4395
03:17:52,479 --> 03:17:55,279
based uh via conversations with the

4396
03:17:55,279 --> 03:17:56,160
county.

4397
03:17:56,160 --> 03:17:56,640
>> Okay.

4398
03:17:56,640 --> 03:17:59,120
>> So there are numbers in line 4.1 for the

4399
03:17:59,120 --> 03:18:00,000
city as well.

4400
03:18:00,000 --> 03:18:03,110
>> Okay.

4401
03:18:03,120 --> 03:18:04,720
» Yeah. No, I got all that conversation

4402
03:18:04,720 --> 03:18:05,680
with that.

4403
03:18:05,680 --> 03:18:08,160
>> So no offense to the conversations. Can

4404
03:18:08,160 --> 03:18:09,840
we see something in black and white?

4405
03:18:09,840 --> 03:18:11,040
>> Okay. Good.

4406
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:13,279
>> Just no character number all the numbers

4407
03:18:13,279 --> 03:18:14,640
there as the proposal.

4408
03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:16,640
>> Okay. And then we'll follow up and see

4409
03:18:16,640 --> 03:18:19,200
where where is this formula or where is

4410
03:18:19,200 --> 03:18:20,880
this narrative that's saying that this

4411
03:18:20,880 --> 03:18:22,720
is our money.

4412
03:18:22,720 --> 03:18:25,439
>> I'm going to be very cautious of the um

4413
03:18:25,439 --> 03:18:29,439
CDBG money on A2178

4414
03:18:29,439 --> 03:18:32,560
and a back

4415
03:18:32,560 --> 03:18:35,200
hold. I got to go back to you only

4416
03:18:35,200 --> 03:18:37,200
because I would like to hear from

4417
03:18:37,200 --> 03:18:41,279
Commissioner Farm and Mr. deficiency as

4418
03:18:41,279 --> 03:18:43,439
see they have anything in effect on

4419
03:18:43,439 --> 03:18:46,239
going against

4420
03:18:46,239 --> 03:18:47,120
I don't know

4421
03:18:47,120 --> 03:18:48,720
>> well I'm thinking if they have the back

4422
03:18:48,720 --> 03:18:51,279
in 2020

4423
03:18:51,279 --> 03:18:55,600
>> absolutely not so if I may that director

4424
03:18:55,600 --> 03:18:57,600
was very clear that this money is not

4425
03:18:57,600 --> 03:18:58,960
being brought up this money is available

4426
03:18:58,960 --> 03:19:01,439
there it needs to be spent by mid next

4427
03:19:01,439 --> 03:19:03,760
year or next year sometime and if it

4428
03:19:03,760 --> 03:19:06,000
doesn't we are

4429
03:19:06,000 --> 03:19:08,160
>> I have no issues with that the whole

4430
03:19:08,160 --> 03:19:10,880
idea was to put all these invoices and

4431
03:19:10,880 --> 03:19:12,239
then we have nothing for this.

4432
03:19:12,239 --> 03:19:13,760
>> Again, I think that our commissioner

4433
03:19:13,760 --> 03:19:16,000
would be able to kind of tell us that if

4434
03:19:16,000 --> 03:19:18,399
there's unpaid invoices against that

4435
03:19:18,399 --> 03:19:19,439
line from

4436
03:19:19,439 --> 03:19:22,399
>> putting it in just like

4437
03:19:22,399 --> 03:19:24,239
>> I think in my opinion we got the

4438
03:19:24,239 --> 03:19:26,479
information from Miss However, if

4439
03:19:26,479 --> 03:19:32,630
there's invoices Mr.

4440
03:19:32,640 --> 03:19:35,760
» They would be in the system by

4441
03:19:35,760 --> 03:19:37,920
>> we have that report of that open PO

4442
03:19:37,920 --> 03:19:39,439
report. Yeah, we had that report that

4443
03:19:39,439 --> 03:19:45,279
you gave us the actual stock as process

4444
03:19:45,279 --> 03:19:48,720
documents and you get the documents from

4445
03:19:48,720 --> 03:19:50,640
>> you gave us a list of open fields and I

4446
03:19:50,640 --> 03:19:52,479
didn't see any significant amount there

4447
03:19:52,479 --> 03:19:53,680
from um

4448
03:19:53,680 --> 03:19:58,239
>> what I'm sensing from miss uh miss ka um

4449
03:19:58,239 --> 03:19:59,840
you know presentation

4450
03:19:59,840 --> 03:20:02,319
>> is that this 20% aside for salary and

4451
03:20:02,319 --> 03:20:04,160
they were supposed to document every you

4452
03:20:04,160 --> 03:20:07,760
know every aspect of the work I am

4453
03:20:07,760 --> 03:20:10,800
thinking that um it's too much

4454
03:20:10,800 --> 03:20:12,720
of a work for the department so they

4455
03:20:12,720 --> 03:20:14,319
decide to draw them directly from the

4456
03:20:14,319 --> 03:20:19,600
salary line instead of um yes

4457
03:20:19,600 --> 03:20:23,040
I would take a recommendation

4458
03:20:23,040 --> 03:20:28,710
>> I I haven't

4459
03:20:28,720 --> 03:20:29,520
question

4460
03:20:29,520 --> 03:20:31,120
>> an explanation of why they haven't used

4461
03:20:31,120 --> 03:20:32,640
the money is that what you're saying

4462
03:20:32,640 --> 03:20:34,560
>> well

4463
03:20:34,560 --> 03:20:35,920
if they have anything they're going to

4464
03:20:35,920 --> 03:20:36,960
put forward

4465
03:20:36,960 --> 03:20:38,319
>> and the open the P.

4466
03:20:38,319 --> 03:20:40,880
>> But can it put this money back so they

4467
03:20:40,880 --> 03:20:42,399
wouldn't get this? Can they really be

4468
03:20:42,399 --> 03:20:43,600
back that far with that?

4469
03:20:43,600 --> 03:20:45,279
>> Well, they can if they put invoices in.

4470
03:20:45,279 --> 03:20:47,439
I I don't know.

4471
03:20:47,439 --> 03:20:49,120
>> Money for the you know, it's still

4472
03:20:49,120 --> 03:20:54,479
available money before it has to be it's

4473
03:20:54,479 --> 03:21:02,150
or the spend it against those bas.

4474
03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:04,960
» This employee already got paid.

4475
03:21:04,960 --> 03:21:06,800
>> Exactly. But this money that was left

4476
03:21:06,800 --> 03:21:11,840
because we didn't do our our show.

4477
03:21:11,840 --> 03:21:15,279
>> She said she said you talked me into

4478
03:21:15,279 --> 03:21:16,720
>> she said she's comfortable but ask the

4479
03:21:16,720 --> 03:21:19,520
question.

4480
03:21:19,520 --> 03:21:21,840
>> I'm sorry but I I danced at another

4481
03:21:21,840 --> 03:21:23,600
place. How much were you talking about

4482
03:21:23,600 --> 03:21:26,640
increasing that casino license fee?

4483
03:21:26,640 --> 03:21:27,680
>> 500.

4484
03:21:27,680 --> 03:21:30,960
>> I'll write it down.

4485
03:21:30,960 --> 03:21:33,600
>> No, please. This is this kind of going

4486
03:21:33,600 --> 03:21:35,439
back and forth. This is where we we we

4487
03:21:35,439 --> 03:21:36,080
need to make

4488
03:21:36,080 --> 03:21:37,680
>> you tell me again what the casino line

4489
03:21:37,680 --> 03:21:40,160
has been.

4490
03:21:40,160 --> 03:21:41,600
>> And I just realized I I'm going to do

4491
03:21:41,600 --> 03:21:44,880
the same thing

4492
03:21:44,880 --> 03:21:52,469
is on page.

4493
03:21:52,479 --> 03:21:54,000
» Well, hold on. She's trying to follow

4494
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:55,680
along. So, she's asking the page number

4495
03:21:55,680 --> 03:21:57,200
so she can get so she can understand

4496
03:21:57,200 --> 03:21:59,040
what Mr. Toro is saying. So, that's what

4497
03:21:59,040 --> 03:22:00,080
I'm trying to do is give her the page

4498
03:22:00,080 --> 03:22:01,680
number. And I gave her the wrong one.

4499
03:22:01,680 --> 03:22:04,720
So, if you give her the page number,

4500
03:22:04,720 --> 03:22:06,960
Mr. To call the the A number

4501
03:22:06,960 --> 03:22:08,720
>> and then we just jump to the page.

4502
03:22:08,720 --> 03:22:10,880
>> Yeah. I'm sorry too fast, but

4503
03:22:10,880 --> 03:22:11,920
>> if we're going to have a side

4504
03:22:11,920 --> 03:22:13,840
conversation while Mr. Toro is talking,

4505
03:22:13,840 --> 03:22:15,279
we're not going to get a new year.

4506
03:22:15,279 --> 03:22:15,680
>> Okay.

4507
03:22:15,680 --> 03:22:19,600
>> And and and a 1989 for seniors, I

4508
03:22:19,600 --> 03:22:21,920
definitely think of finding $40,000

4509
03:22:21,920 --> 03:22:24,000
somewhere to put it back in the

4510
03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:26,800
>> 1989. Again, like I said, I don't even

4511
03:22:26,800 --> 03:22:28,319
see that invaluable. Um

4512
03:22:28,319 --> 03:22:29,200
>> 49,

4513
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:30,160
>> you know,

4514
03:22:30,160 --> 03:22:30,800
>> 499

4515
03:22:30,800 --> 03:22:33,680
>> the um Hibernians, you know, uh I'm sure

4516
03:22:33,680 --> 03:22:37,120
we've been there field.

4517
03:22:37,120 --> 03:22:40,399
>> Um so, uh you know, the these people go

4518
03:22:40,399 --> 03:22:42,640
it's it's they they get a good meal.

4519
03:22:42,640 --> 03:22:44,319
They don't have to worry about dinner

4520
03:22:44,319 --> 03:22:47,520
for like four three four $5. Uh the rest

4521
03:22:47,520 --> 03:22:50,080
is funded through us and through capital

4522
03:22:50,080 --> 03:22:52,000
who runs the program outside of the

4523
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:54,640
hyper as well. So I think it's sincerely

4524
03:22:54,640 --> 03:22:55,920
important to have something for our

4525
03:22:55,920 --> 03:22:57,359
seniors. At least it's a little. It

4526
03:22:57,359 --> 03:23:00,479
can't be like huge, but what we'd like

4527
03:23:00,479 --> 03:23:02,080
to offer them.

4528
03:23:02,080 --> 03:23:02,640
>> Yeah.

4529
03:23:02,640 --> 03:23:04,960
>> Did you um will say anything for 2178

4530
03:23:04,960 --> 03:23:06,800
and 217?

4531
03:23:06,800 --> 03:23:09,279
>> Yeah. 202 and 206 since I guess if

4532
03:23:09,279 --> 03:23:10,880
they've already spent baking money out

4533
03:23:10,880 --> 03:23:12,080
of

4534
03:23:12,080 --> 03:23:14,960
>> the general fund and spent it. But I

4535
03:23:14,960 --> 03:23:16,160
just don't understand.

4536
03:23:16,160 --> 03:23:18,640
>> And not utilizing the CDJ. They utilize

4537
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:20,000
another other source of funding. That

4538
03:23:20,000 --> 03:23:20,960
bothers me. But

4539
03:23:20,960 --> 03:23:22,800
>> yeah, yes, she does. And that's why I

4540
03:23:22,800 --> 03:23:24,239
feel like

4541
03:23:24,239 --> 03:23:26,000
>> is it more like this outside here that

4542
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:26,960
we need to know?

4543
03:23:26,960 --> 03:23:29,439
>> Well, she did say I can't keep

4544
03:23:29,439 --> 03:23:31,600
>> did all the paperwork

4545
03:23:31,600 --> 03:23:33,279
>> and she's not there and no one's doing

4546
03:23:33,279 --> 03:23:35,040
the paperwork and it's all got to be

4547
03:23:35,040 --> 03:23:37,359
documented way up there responding.

4548
03:23:37,359 --> 03:23:39,120
>> It's the person who retired. So

4549
03:23:39,120 --> 03:23:40,239
wonderful.

4550
03:23:40,239 --> 03:23:42,960
>> So I'm done. Who's next?

4551
03:23:42,960 --> 03:23:44,720
>> Like um Miss Patrick, would you like to

4552
03:23:44,720 --> 03:23:45,520
go?

4553
03:23:45,520 --> 03:23:49,040
>> No, I'm not. I'm just listening and I'm

4554
03:23:49,040 --> 03:23:50,800
going to wait till I get my document on

4555
03:23:50,800 --> 03:23:53,200
Friday back from Mr.

4556
03:23:53,200 --> 03:23:54,640
>> So are we not you're not making no

4557
03:23:54,640 --> 03:23:55,359
recommendation.

4558
03:23:55,359 --> 03:23:56,239
>> Do you have anything?

4559
03:23:56,239 --> 03:24:01,200
>> I'd have to go line by line. So please

4560
03:24:01,200 --> 03:24:02,960
>> the uh so the allowance for collecting

4561
03:24:02,960 --> 03:24:06,800
taxes you want to keep it the same.

4562
03:24:06,800 --> 03:24:08,960
>> Cannabis excess tax. What was that? I

4563
03:24:08,960 --> 03:24:10,720
missed that one.

4564
03:24:10,720 --> 03:24:14,960
>> I mean the same. No,

4565
03:24:14,960 --> 03:24:17,520
the wrong

4566
03:24:17,520 --> 03:24:22,150
>> I can find it now.

4567
03:24:22,160 --> 03:24:23,120
» You didn't have anything.

4568
03:24:23,120 --> 03:24:24,800
>> Cannabis. She didn't say. Dorine didn't

4569
03:24:24,800 --> 03:24:25,840
say

4570
03:24:25,840 --> 03:24:28,720
>> it was 700,000. I was Oh, I didn't I

4571
03:24:28,720 --> 03:24:29,840
didn't touch on cannabis.

4572
03:24:29,840 --> 03:24:31,920
>> No, you didn't. Mr. Mur said, "Let's put

4573
03:24:31,920 --> 03:24:32,960
it at 1 million."

4574
03:24:32,960 --> 03:24:35,359
>> Right. Um

4575
03:24:35,359 --> 03:24:36,239
John,

4576
03:24:36,239 --> 03:24:38,880
>> you're right. Let me see. I I definitely

4577
03:24:38,880 --> 03:24:40,720
since uh year to date we're almost

4578
03:24:40,720 --> 03:24:43,200
there. So I So I guess I'd like to add

4579
03:24:43,200 --> 03:24:45,760
$100,000 at the end of this. I don't

4580
03:24:45,760 --> 03:24:46,479
think anymore.

4581
03:24:46,479 --> 03:24:48,640
>> So DD800,000

4582
03:24:48,640 --> 03:24:50,080
>> A116.

4583
03:24:50,080 --> 03:24:52,800
>> No, I'm just putting DD for you. 800K.

4584
03:24:52,800 --> 03:24:59,830
>> Yeah. I'm sorry. Thank you, Sam. A116.

4585
03:24:59,840 --> 03:25:04,790
I'm sorry. I'm very conservative.

4586
03:25:04,800 --> 03:25:06,080
I don't know how we're going to make a

4587
03:25:06,080 --> 03:25:12,710
word for it.

4588
03:25:12,720 --> 03:25:14,560
» Are you Mr.

4589
03:25:14,560 --> 03:25:15,439
>> Yes. Yes.

4590
03:25:15,439 --> 03:25:17,680
>> Okay. Miss Patrick,

4591
03:25:17,680 --> 03:25:20,720
>> I I need to be last because I don't I

4592
03:25:20,720 --> 03:25:21,840
want to hear what everybody else is

4593
03:25:21,840 --> 03:25:23,439
saying. So, Miss Borterfield would be

4594
03:25:23,439 --> 03:25:24,640
next, right?

4595
03:25:24,640 --> 03:25:25,680
>> We go around the table.

4596
03:25:25,680 --> 03:25:26,479
>> Going in order.

4597
03:25:26,479 --> 03:25:27,120
>> Are you ready?

4598
03:25:27,120 --> 03:25:28,720
>> I call on you to to make any

4599
03:25:28,720 --> 03:25:29,840
recommendation that you have.

4600
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:30,640
>> I'm not ready to do that.

4601
03:25:30,640 --> 03:25:33,600
>> She's not ready. M is ready.

4602
03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:39,990
Yes, I am.

4603
03:25:40,000 --> 03:25:42,479
» I'm not

4604
03:25:42,479 --> 03:25:45,359
submit.

4605
03:25:45,359 --> 03:25:49,990
>> Thank you.

4606
03:25:50,000 --> 03:25:51,200
» You have it actually.

4607
03:25:51,200 --> 03:25:55,200
>> I know you got it. I got it. I got it.

4608
03:25:55,200 --> 03:25:57,840
>> Looks like Well, I can give you mine if

4609
03:25:57,840 --> 03:26:00,080
you want.

4610
03:26:00,080 --> 03:26:03,600
>> Okay. Okay. Focus.

4611
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:10,550
>> So, she's starting again.

4612
03:26:10,560 --> 03:26:12,239
» Okay. There we go. I got it.

4613
03:26:12,239 --> 03:26:13,840
>> 1116.

4614
03:26:13,840 --> 03:26:16,800
So, I wanted to line 1116. I should have

4615
03:26:16,800 --> 03:26:19,279
the lines in my email. Um, the cannabis

4616
03:26:19,279 --> 03:26:22,239
line, I wanted to increase that by

4617
03:26:22,239 --> 03:26:23,760
100,000

4618
03:26:23,760 --> 03:26:25,840
based on that the opening of new sites

4619
03:26:25,840 --> 03:26:31,200
in 2025. However, now that Mr. Um,

4620
03:26:31,200 --> 03:26:34,239
Mr. O'Brien had said that we have two

4621
03:26:34,239 --> 03:26:36,000
more that were approved.

4622
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:36,479
>> Yeah.

4623
03:26:36,479 --> 03:26:38,399
>> Um, I'm willing to go up to another

4624
03:26:38,399 --> 03:26:40,479
50,000 on that. So, so to increase that

4625
03:26:40,479 --> 03:26:45,279
by 150,000 line 11.

4626
03:26:45,279 --> 03:26:47,520
>> Yep.

4627
03:26:47,520 --> 03:26:49,760
>> Cuz now we have two new stores open. All

4628
03:26:49,760 --> 03:26:53,760
right. Um, this I apologize when Miss

4629
03:26:53,760 --> 03:26:55,920
Carver was here that I didn't I should

4630
03:26:55,920 --> 03:26:58,640
have had me. Um she explained to me and

4631
03:26:58,640 --> 03:27:00,880
Mr. Blueberry, could you tell us what

4632
03:27:00,880 --> 03:27:04,800
the demolition line is for for um it's a

4633
03:27:04,800 --> 03:27:06,560
contingency

4634
03:27:06,560 --> 03:27:09,600
>> right? Um

4635
03:27:09,600 --> 03:27:11,920
don't know the option but it's under

4636
03:27:11,920 --> 03:27:12,880
contingency.

4637
03:27:12,880 --> 03:27:13,200
>> All right.

4638
03:27:13,200 --> 03:27:15,359
>> So the 400,000

4639
03:27:15,359 --> 03:27:16,720
is under that.

4640
03:27:16,720 --> 03:27:18,720
>> I'm looking.

4641
03:27:18,720 --> 03:27:21,120
>> Yes. It just see 400,000.

4642
03:27:21,120 --> 03:27:22,160
>> Right.

4643
03:27:22,160 --> 03:27:25,439
So what Miss Par said and you can

4644
03:27:25,439 --> 03:27:27,600
definitely double back there on this but

4645
03:27:27,600 --> 03:27:29,600
we were having a conversation and she

4646
03:27:29,600 --> 03:27:33,200
said there is CBG money that is allowed

4647
03:27:33,200 --> 03:27:36,399
for for um intended excuse me for

4648
03:27:36,399 --> 03:27:37,040
demolition

4649
03:27:37,040 --> 03:27:39,279
>> demolition I think she talked about that

4650
03:27:39,279 --> 03:27:43,279
>> right so would you be offsetting

4651
03:27:43,279 --> 03:27:45,120
that number by what's available in the

4652
03:27:45,120 --> 03:27:47,760
city did you and I

4653
03:27:47,760 --> 03:27:50,800
didn't ask you that question we did you

4654
03:27:50,800 --> 03:27:53,279
know what that number is and how

4655
03:27:53,279 --> 03:27:54,800
different

4656
03:27:54,800 --> 03:27:57,359
>> use the CPP money that is

4657
03:27:57,359 --> 03:27:59,600
>> Can we have that as a question please?

4658
03:27:59,600 --> 03:28:01,760
>> Yes. I I just want to clarify too in

4659
03:28:01,760 --> 03:28:06,640
past years um history wise um it's not

4660
03:28:06,640 --> 03:28:08,479
only demolition

4661
03:28:08,479 --> 03:28:11,120
that come up the city is un unforeseen

4662
03:28:11,120 --> 03:28:13,520
unaware of and

4663
03:28:13,520 --> 03:28:17,510
>> so that's why

4664
03:28:17,520 --> 03:28:23,269
so far the last couple years haven't

4665
03:28:23,279 --> 03:28:26,319
come depending on

4666
03:28:26,319 --> 03:28:28,160
what happened

4667
03:28:28,160 --> 03:28:30,880
>> so what I we should look at is how much

4668
03:28:30,880 --> 03:28:32,720
we've used the demolition how much it's

4669
03:28:32,720 --> 03:28:35,840
available and reduce the line by that

4670
03:28:35,840 --> 03:28:37,600
because when I know we were discussing

4671
03:28:37,600 --> 03:28:39,920
that line it was very clear demolition

4672
03:28:39,920 --> 03:28:42,399
part

4673
03:28:42,399 --> 03:28:45,120
otherwise we should get it and I I guess

4674
03:28:45,120 --> 03:28:46,560
I can text her but she might not want to

4675
03:28:46,560 --> 03:28:47,680
hear from us

4676
03:28:47,680 --> 03:28:50,800
>> no we'll follow up with a question

4677
03:28:50,800 --> 03:28:53,439
can you please make it exciting

4678
03:28:53,439 --> 03:28:54,800
>> it would be it would be good if we knew

4679
03:28:54,800 --> 03:28:58,239
the number we do it's like

4680
03:28:58,239 --> 03:29:00,800
Mr. Williams put it on to reduce

4681
03:29:00,800 --> 03:29:03,359
>> 1989 485

4682
03:29:03,359 --> 03:29:05,200
page 30

4683
03:29:05,200 --> 03:29:07,840
>> page 30

4684
03:29:07,840 --> 03:29:10,000
>> right and here right now we did talk

4685
03:29:10,000 --> 03:29:13,200
about this is 28251

4686
03:29:13,200 --> 03:29:15,200
so

4687
03:29:15,200 --> 03:29:19,110
we have to spend

4688
03:29:19,120 --> 03:29:25,269
» we might 1989485

4689
03:29:25,279 --> 03:29:27,439
» so what do you want that to be

4690
03:29:27,439 --> 03:29:29,439
>> so I I want to Oh, Marian, I'm sorry.

4691
03:29:29,439 --> 03:29:30,000
Yes.

4692
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:32,800
>> I wanted to know how much

4693
03:29:32,800 --> 03:29:34,560
we have spent. Well, I know how much we

4694
03:29:34,560 --> 03:29:36,000
spent. What I want to know is how much

4695
03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:38,319
was essentially for demolitions use out

4696
03:29:38,319 --> 03:29:40,160
of this. How much is available through

4697
03:29:40,160 --> 03:29:41,600
CDBG?

4698
03:29:41,600 --> 03:29:42,080
>> I'm sorry.

4699
03:29:42,080 --> 03:29:43,200
>> No, sorry. Go finish.

4700
03:29:43,200 --> 03:29:45,920
>> And how much is available through CDBG?

4701
03:29:45,920 --> 03:29:47,680
And we could do reduce that line. Maybe

4702
03:29:47,680 --> 03:29:50,160
not exactly the amount, but some level

4703
03:29:50,160 --> 03:29:51,680
of that because if there's money that we

4704
03:29:51,680 --> 03:29:53,680
could spend through CDBG,

4705
03:29:53,680 --> 03:29:55,920
which and and take it out of there, we

4706
03:29:55,920 --> 03:29:58,319
want to have it here. So

4707
03:29:58,319 --> 03:30:00,880
>> yeah, before before you proceed, I

4708
03:30:00,880 --> 03:30:02,000
tutorial has a

4709
03:30:02,000 --> 03:30:05,680
>> I did I did have that,000

4710
03:30:05,680 --> 03:30:08,239
>> increase it or decrease that same line.

4711
03:30:08,239 --> 03:30:08,560
>> Yes.

4712
03:30:08,560 --> 03:30:11,120
>> Oh yeah. Okay. I have 385

4713
03:30:11,120 --> 03:30:15,750
1989 485

4714
03:30:15,760 --> 03:30:16,479
» 300,000.

4715
03:30:16,479 --> 03:30:18,239
>> It's on page um 30.

4716
03:30:18,239 --> 03:30:21,760
>> Sorry. So that is recommendation. Okay.

4717
03:30:21,760 --> 03:30:25,600
Thank you. So I may depending on what MA

4718
03:30:25,600 --> 03:30:30,710
has to say my blood might be decrease

4719
03:30:30,720 --> 03:30:31,200
by

4720
03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:34,640
>> 100,000 to 300,000 right Dorian.

4721
03:30:34,640 --> 03:30:38,319
>> Yes. So be back 100,000

4722
03:30:38,319 --> 03:30:42,319
>> lower by 100,000. So your so for me I

4723
03:30:42,319 --> 03:30:45,200
would have to see how much

4724
03:30:45,200 --> 03:30:47,120
available for us to be able to do that

4725
03:30:47,120 --> 03:30:50,880
and maybe get those email.

4726
03:30:50,880 --> 03:30:53,359
>> So there's a question I'm going to be

4727
03:30:53,359 --> 03:30:55,040
email

4728
03:30:55,040 --> 03:30:57,840
>> right I need to go over what other

4729
03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:01,200
people said. Um but I did want to um

4730
03:31:01,200 --> 03:31:03,040
>> well I write here but I wanted to add

4731
03:31:03,040 --> 03:31:04,800
back oh no that's we're not doing this

4732
03:31:04,800 --> 03:31:07,840
we're not doing that yet. I want to use

4733
03:31:07,840 --> 03:31:10,880
the maximum fun B fund balance allow to

4734
03:31:10,880 --> 03:31:13,279
minimize tax increases including I

4735
03:31:13,279 --> 03:31:14,640
understand the contracts that may be

4736
03:31:14,640 --> 03:31:16,399
outstanding. So I'd like to know what

4737
03:31:16,399 --> 03:31:18,880
that number would be.

4738
03:31:18,880 --> 03:31:25,429
>> That's exact

4739
03:31:25,439 --> 03:31:27,359
million minus 2 million bucks. So it's

4740
03:31:27,359 --> 03:31:28,239
4.1

4741
03:31:28,239 --> 03:31:28,720
>> right

4742
03:31:28,720 --> 03:31:31,520
>> and all that.

4743
03:31:31,520 --> 03:31:33,359
>> I didn't say all of it. I said the max.

4744
03:31:33,359 --> 03:31:35,040
So you say so

4745
03:31:35,040 --> 03:31:36,880
>> the council one used all of that they

4746
03:31:36,880 --> 03:31:37,279
could have

4747
03:31:37,279 --> 03:31:43,920
>> I didn't ask that I asked what it says is the maximum when I say

4748
03:31:43,920 --> 03:31:46,560
maximum fund available okay expand on

4749
03:31:46,560 --> 03:31:50,239
that that doesn't um that we have to

4750
03:31:50,239 --> 03:31:53,439
have like you said 15% so get us to the

4751
03:31:53,439 --> 03:31:56,160
15 what's that number

4752
03:31:56,160 --> 03:32:00,479
>> well 15% of the general bridge by your

4753
03:32:00,479 --> 03:32:00,880
number

4754
03:32:00,880 --> 03:32:04,239
>> so I I would like the number and and

4755
03:32:04,239 --> 03:32:08,399
then you could um subtract out you said

4756
03:32:08,399 --> 03:32:11,600
uh for the 300,000 for one contract

4757
03:32:11,600 --> 03:32:13,760
>> and 600 for one and two

4758
03:32:13,760 --> 03:32:15,680
>> but we should that isn't that an

4759
03:32:15,680 --> 03:32:18,080
executive session kind of thing because

4760
03:32:18,080 --> 03:32:19,279
they're still negotiating those

4761
03:32:19,279 --> 03:32:25,030
contracts. Yeah, but we're just going

4762
03:32:25,040 --> 03:32:27,040
» so I think it's

4763
03:32:27,040 --> 03:32:30,960
>> 15% of the operating 126 would be 18

4764
03:32:30,960 --> 03:32:34,070
million

4765
03:32:34,080 --> 03:32:36,800
» all on we need 18 million sign

4766
03:32:36,800 --> 03:32:39,520
>> that's just 15% of it

4767
03:32:39,520 --> 03:32:41,840
>> and all on

4768
03:32:41,840 --> 03:32:44,640
>> we have to have 15 million. So when's

4769
03:32:44,640 --> 03:32:46,960
the last time we had that?

4770
03:32:46,960 --> 03:32:49,359
We had 12 million last year until we

4771
03:32:49,359 --> 03:32:50,160
stated.

4772
03:32:50,160 --> 03:32:52,319
>> So when's the last time we made 18? I

4773
03:32:52,319 --> 03:32:55,760
mean in one year I'll just in in 2011

4774
03:32:55,760 --> 03:32:58,720
the mayor said he had to be 77 75,000

4775
03:32:58,720 --> 03:33:00,800
and he was okay with it. So let's ask

4776
03:33:00,800 --> 03:33:02,239
him if he's okay with it again next

4777
03:33:02,239 --> 03:33:03,760
year.

4778
03:33:03,760 --> 03:33:09,600
That so it has to all be on the sign not

4779
03:33:09,600 --> 03:33:13,439
50% general. Mhm. I think I gave you a

4780
03:33:13,439 --> 03:33:16,640
packet from

4781
03:33:16,640 --> 03:33:20,319
>> uh uh OSC

4782
03:33:20,319 --> 03:33:23,920
>> um said there's example of 15%

4783
03:33:23,920 --> 03:33:26,960
>> right and there's also an example there

4784
03:33:26,960 --> 03:33:28,880
that says that um two months of

4785
03:33:28,880 --> 03:33:31,520
expenditure is also what you can base it

4786
03:33:31,520 --> 03:33:33,760
on since we don't have our own dollar so

4787
03:33:33,760 --> 03:33:35,439
there's more than one um

4788
03:33:35,439 --> 03:33:41,429
>> I think the lowest 5%

4789
03:33:41,439 --> 03:33:44,720
» and as old as high as over 15% starting

4790
03:33:44,720 --> 03:33:46,319
to fluctuate.

4791
03:33:46,319 --> 03:33:47,840
>> Well, I think we're going to have to use

4792
03:33:47,840 --> 03:33:49,279
more of our fund down. So, I'd like to

4793
03:33:49,279 --> 03:33:52,239
see us be able to use what we can to to

4794
03:33:52,239 --> 03:33:53,760
get this through place. We're not first

4795
03:33:53,760 --> 03:34:00,389
of all seeing our tax and also as

4796
03:34:00,399 --> 03:34:02,960
that's and I think everything else that

4797
03:34:02,960 --> 03:34:07,120
I had um Oh, I did the cannabis right

4798
03:34:07,120 --> 03:34:08,160
with Mr.

4799
03:34:08,160 --> 03:34:10,640
>> Yes, you did. You said that increase the

4800
03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:13,120
cannabis line by 100,000

4801
03:34:13,120 --> 03:34:14,080
something

4802
03:34:14,080 --> 03:34:14,800
>> 15.

4803
03:34:14,800 --> 03:34:15,680
>> Yeah.

4804
03:34:15,680 --> 03:34:16,880
>> Oh 150.

4805
03:34:16,880 --> 03:34:19,120
>> That's that's recommendation.

4806
03:34:19,120 --> 03:34:20,880
>> Um after Mr. O'Brien

4807
03:34:20,880 --> 03:34:27,830
>> Oh, you changed. Okay. 15.

4808
03:34:27,840 --> 03:34:30,960
And um so that

4809
03:34:30,960 --> 03:34:34,710
>> uh

4810
03:34:34,720 --> 03:34:36,640
um

4811
03:34:36,640 --> 03:34:39,200
so I think that's it for my for the um

4812
03:34:39,200 --> 03:34:41,600
>> revenue

4813
03:34:41,600 --> 03:34:42,880
>> the revenue side

4814
03:34:42,880 --> 03:34:45,120
>> side

4815
03:34:45,120 --> 03:34:47,040
you have any

4816
03:34:47,040 --> 03:34:55,190
expenditure you want to touch on

4817
03:34:55,200 --> 03:34:57,760
do you have a number

4818
03:34:57,760 --> 03:34:59,600
over the 29 that you're looking to

4819
03:34:59,600 --> 03:35:01,840
utilize?

4820
03:35:01,840 --> 03:35:04,239
>> No, I don't have the number. I want to

4821
03:35:04,239 --> 03:35:06,160
know I want something to you what is the

4822
03:35:06,160 --> 03:35:10,080
number that we um

4823
03:35:10,080 --> 03:35:16,550
we can use as you say have 18 million um

4824
03:35:16,560 --> 03:35:25,349
that's

4825
03:35:25,359 --> 03:35:29,110
» 15 would be above

4826
03:35:29,120 --> 03:35:31,200
but we don't have so that's what I'm

4827
03:35:31,200 --> 03:35:32,720
saying we don't have policy right we

4828
03:35:32,720 --> 03:35:35,279
don't have a written fun because it's

4829
03:35:35,279 --> 03:35:36,479
just one.

4830
03:35:36,479 --> 03:35:36,880
>> Okay.

4831
03:35:36,880 --> 03:35:39,520
>> All right. So, we're kind of like I

4832
03:35:39,520 --> 03:35:42,560
wasn't saying yes into

4833
03:35:42,560 --> 03:35:45,040
um

4834
03:35:45,040 --> 03:35:47,439
I would like us not be able to increase

4835
03:35:47,439 --> 03:35:54,880
tax 17%. So, I'm I don't I know that

4836
03:35:54,880 --> 03:35:59,750
I don't know.

4837
03:35:59,760 --> 03:36:01,200
» What did you say? What did you say?

4838
03:36:01,200 --> 03:36:04,560
>> Someone question. That's right.

4839
03:36:04,560 --> 03:36:06,239
>> So, and and some of this for me is going

4840
03:36:06,239 --> 03:36:09,279
to be based on how much we can recapture

4841
03:36:09,279 --> 03:36:12,239
here with all the different um revenue

4842
03:36:12,239 --> 03:36:13,840
changes that we're going to be doing.

4843
03:36:13,840 --> 03:36:16,239
Then how much we will need out of the

4844
03:36:16,239 --> 03:36:17,840
funding. So, I would like to use the

4845
03:36:17,840 --> 03:36:19,520
maximum

4846
03:36:19,520 --> 03:36:20,720
we have to put these two things

4847
03:36:20,720 --> 03:36:23,040
together. Are you following me so far?

4848
03:36:23,040 --> 03:36:24,560
>> So, we have to put these two things

4849
03:36:24,560 --> 03:36:26,640
together. How much we can increase our

4850
03:36:26,640 --> 03:36:28,399
revenue, which has been some pretty

4851
03:36:28,399 --> 03:36:32,560
significant I think. Um, and then use

4852
03:36:32,560 --> 03:36:35,200
our fund balance to make up for that.

4853
03:36:35,200 --> 03:36:38,160
So, not enough. That is my goal. Let's

4854
03:36:38,160 --> 03:36:40,160
just let everybody know that is my goal.

4855
03:36:40,160 --> 03:36:42,800
Not to exceed the tax cap and to also

4856
03:36:42,800 --> 03:36:45,439
not have a 17% tax increase. I don't

4857
03:36:45,439 --> 03:36:46,880
want to say a percentage right now. I'd

4858
03:36:46,880 --> 03:36:50,239
like it to be zero. Don't think don't.

4859
03:36:50,239 --> 03:36:52,560
So, I'd like to know if you look at what

4860
03:36:52,560 --> 03:36:57,030
number would be comfortable with

4861
03:36:57,040 --> 03:36:59,439
» 2 million.

4862
03:36:59,439 --> 03:37:01,120
>> What? What's already the 2 million

4863
03:37:01,120 --> 03:37:03,359
that's already in this budget is what

4864
03:37:03,359 --> 03:37:08,870
you're comfortable with. That's what

4865
03:37:08,880 --> 03:37:10,560
2 million is all we should spend.

4866
03:37:10,560 --> 03:37:12,160
>> Correct.

4867
03:37:12,160 --> 03:37:16,070
>> Okay.

4868
03:37:16,080 --> 03:37:24,630
» We don't have a lot left.

4869
03:37:24,640 --> 03:37:26,880
» So right now

4870
03:37:26,880 --> 03:37:27,520
two

4871
03:37:27,520 --> 03:37:32,399
>> No. No. There's 60.1 we're utilizing

4872
03:37:32,399 --> 03:37:35,520
there be 4.1 available depending on

4873
03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:37,760
contracts that might be drastically

4874
03:37:37,760 --> 03:37:38,319
changed

4875
03:37:38,319 --> 03:37:43,439
>> but let's say okay number

4876
03:37:43,439 --> 03:37:45,359
>> it's

4877
03:37:45,359 --> 03:37:46,960
no

4878
03:37:46,960 --> 03:37:49,680
>> plus three plus the one

4879
03:37:49,680 --> 03:37:53,910
>> that's already in there

4880
03:37:53,920 --> 03:37:56,960
so uh can you put that in the notes also

4881
03:37:56,960 --> 03:37:57,359
Mhm.

4882
03:37:57,359 --> 03:37:58,000
>> Yes.

4883
03:37:58,000 --> 03:38:02,080
>> Um plus $1 million million

4884
03:38:02,080 --> 03:38:03,200
recommendation

4885
03:38:03,200 --> 03:38:06,000
>> which brings us sort of I know we can't

4886
03:38:06,000 --> 03:38:08,080
calculate it because of the contract 2

4887
03:38:08,080 --> 03:38:09,680
million that would leave us

4888
03:38:09,680 --> 03:38:10,560
>> 3.1

4889
03:38:10,560 --> 03:38:12,239
>> 3.1us

4890
03:38:12,239 --> 03:38:14,160
contracts.

4891
03:38:14,160 --> 03:38:15,279
>> So say two

4892
03:38:15,279 --> 03:38:16,399
>> oh right

4893
03:38:16,399 --> 03:38:20,550
>> maybe less

4894
03:38:20,560 --> 03:38:23,359
» do you have any more

4895
03:38:23,359 --> 03:38:25,040
I'll move to um let's see

4896
03:38:25,040 --> 03:38:27,600
>> Mr. party and then uh

4897
03:38:27,600 --> 03:38:30,000
>> so just to just finish up on this

4898
03:38:30,000 --> 03:38:32,880
conversation we are g we always email

4899
03:38:32,880 --> 03:38:35,840
that building

4900
03:38:35,840 --> 03:38:37,600
so

4901
03:38:37,600 --> 03:38:39,200
just to finish up on the conversation in

4902
03:38:39,200 --> 03:38:42,160
terms of the fun hanging out there is my

4903
03:38:42,160 --> 03:38:44,560
intent is that we would do that but we

4904
03:38:44,560 --> 03:38:47,359
would be looking at getting our pilots

4905
03:38:47,359 --> 03:38:50,479
so that we can start

4906
03:38:50,479 --> 03:38:53,200
getting to um and we have two one

4907
03:38:53,200 --> 03:38:55,760
expiring next year two expiring the

4908
03:38:55,760 --> 03:38:58,239
following year so that we could start um

4909
03:38:58,239 --> 03:39:03,269
building up on

4910
03:39:03,279 --> 03:39:05,200
» Thank you. So So yeah, thank you on this

4911
03:39:05,200 --> 03:39:06,640
letter that he did send to us. I think

4912
03:39:06,640 --> 03:39:09,200
it's appropriate that that I read it. Um

4913
03:39:09,200 --> 03:39:11,760
and I do want to make a note that the

4914
03:39:11,760 --> 03:39:15,520
one expiring next year for uh State

4915
03:39:15,520 --> 03:39:18,160
Street, what's the address there?

4916
03:39:18,160 --> 03:39:21,600
>> Don't know. Uh let's mention that.

4917
03:39:21,600 --> 03:39:23,439
>> Well, the one expiring next year, I'll

4918
03:39:23,439 --> 03:39:27,910
just give you the date. Yes.

4919
03:39:27,920 --> 03:39:35,439
» Um well the next the winning 228 26 um

4920
03:39:35,439 --> 03:39:38,960
that came off with time already

4921
03:39:38,960 --> 03:39:40,720
going off the block. It came on it

4922
03:39:40,720 --> 03:39:43,920
already came off this year.

4923
03:39:43,920 --> 03:39:46,960
Then why would it like it's going to

4924
03:39:46,960 --> 03:39:47,439
come off?

4925
03:39:47,439 --> 03:39:49,040
>> I know it it's already come off.

4926
03:39:49,040 --> 03:39:50,880
>> Well wait and how would you know that?

4927
03:39:50,880 --> 03:39:53,120
Um I suppose uh after received this

4928
03:39:53,120 --> 03:39:56,319
email and all these um pilot um things

4929
03:39:56,319 --> 03:39:58,720
from uh Mr. Gillan this morning, which

4930
03:39:58,720 --> 03:40:00,239
was the first time that I've got to see

4931
03:40:00,239 --> 03:40:03,600
them, um I did reach out to um our

4932
03:40:03,600 --> 03:40:08,640
assessor and um uh

4933
03:40:08,640 --> 03:40:13,520
receiver receiver foxes to go over um

4934
03:40:13,520 --> 03:40:15,920
the files exactly how they how they

4935
03:40:15,920 --> 03:40:18,880
work. Each one is is so different. Each

4936
03:40:18,880 --> 03:40:22,080
one is individual. Um some years, uh you

4937
03:40:22,080 --> 03:40:23,840
know, sometimes they start out with no

4938
03:40:23,840 --> 03:40:26,319
taxes and then after three years they

4939
03:40:26,319 --> 03:40:28,880
start paying taxes and they up the most

4940
03:40:28,880 --> 03:40:32,080
of them have to increase 5% until they

4941
03:40:32,080 --> 03:40:35,920
um until they're at full rate. So let me

4942
03:40:35,920 --> 03:40:38,239
start because I see what this is going.

4943
03:40:38,239 --> 03:40:41,439
I started talking about why

4944
03:40:41,439 --> 03:40:43,840
I started talking about a there was an

4945
03:40:43,840 --> 03:40:47,040
email sent which we all received and I

4946
03:40:47,040 --> 03:40:49,439
followed up. I made it clear when we

4947
03:40:49,439 --> 03:40:51,600
started this budget prospect that I'm

4948
03:40:51,600 --> 03:40:54,720
not trying to get piloted to to um it's

4949
03:40:54,720 --> 03:40:56,560
not for this year's budget but moving

4950
03:40:56,560 --> 03:41:00,080
forward. So there's an implication that

4951
03:41:00,080 --> 03:41:01,439
there's information that you're not

4952
03:41:01,439 --> 03:41:03,520
receiving. I made it clear that I've

4953
03:41:03,520 --> 03:41:04,800
been talking about pilot. I've been

4954
03:41:04,800 --> 03:41:08,880
talking to I've been talking to to um to

4955
03:41:08,880 --> 03:41:11,680
the assessor's office about it. And so

4956
03:41:11,680 --> 03:41:13,359
until I'm ready to proceed where your

4957
03:41:13,359 --> 03:41:16,399
plan is at plans, I don't feel like I

4958
03:41:16,399 --> 03:41:18,960
need to like put give it out there. You

4959
03:41:18,960 --> 03:41:21,040
have it now. That's fine because only

4960
03:41:21,040 --> 03:41:22,800
because people asked for. So this is

4961
03:41:22,800 --> 03:41:24,080
something that I've been working on

4962
03:41:24,080 --> 03:41:25,920
until we came to a final thing and

4963
03:41:25,920 --> 03:41:28,800
waiting for the other information from

4964
03:41:28,800 --> 03:41:32,000
Miss Maloy, we would have gotten it.

4965
03:41:32,000 --> 03:41:34,479
We're here now because it was asked that

4966
03:41:34,479 --> 03:41:36,160
Minister um Gillan come. He couldn't

4967
03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:37,840
come and this this information came

4968
03:41:37,840 --> 03:41:40,560
forward. So just to be clear about all

4969
03:41:40,560 --> 03:41:44,080
of that in terms of me not having it

4970
03:41:44,080 --> 03:41:46,160
somebody not having it again. How many

4971
03:41:46,160 --> 03:41:47,840
times have I sat at this table and said

4972
03:41:47,840 --> 03:41:49,760
I'm looking at pilots and I'm asking for

4973
03:41:49,760 --> 03:41:52,080
information about pilots. So this

4974
03:41:52,080 --> 03:41:54,560
doesn't impact this current budget. It

4975
03:41:54,560 --> 03:41:56,319
impacts going forward in my mind and

4976
03:41:56,319 --> 03:41:57,840
that's what I was working on and looking

4977
03:41:57,840 --> 03:41:59,520
towards. So I just want to make that

4978
03:41:59,520 --> 03:42:00,640
abundantly clear.

4979
03:42:00,640 --> 03:42:02,479
>> All right. thinking that absolutely

4980
03:42:02,479 --> 03:42:04,399
clear. Um but after last night's

4981
03:42:04,399 --> 03:42:06,399
conversation um I thought that maybe

4982
03:42:06,399 --> 03:42:08,640
there was one pilot that might that's

4983
03:42:08,640 --> 03:42:12,319
clear but it's already about stuff. Mr.

4984
03:42:12,319 --> 03:42:14,160
Gillum wrote and and I think we owe him

4985
03:42:14,160 --> 03:42:16,399
an explanation. Uh good morning. I have

4986
03:42:16,399 --> 03:42:18,160
a metroplex board meeting this evening

4987
03:42:18,160 --> 03:42:20,640
at 5:30 p.m. So I stand on the pen

4988
03:42:20,640 --> 03:42:22,960
council meeting this evening. We sent

4989
03:42:22,960 --> 03:42:24,880
the council a report on highlights on

4990
03:42:24,880 --> 03:42:27,600
August 4th. We sent an updated report on

4991
03:42:27,600 --> 03:42:30,000
9:24 to council president Porterfield

4992
03:42:30,000 --> 03:42:31,920
and offered at that time to discuss any

4993
03:42:31,920 --> 03:42:34,560
agreements. I have had no responses from

4994
03:42:34,560 --> 03:42:37,279
any council member to either pilot

4995
03:42:37,279 --> 03:42:39,279
report. Please note that the pilot

4996
03:42:39,279 --> 03:42:41,600
report shows that 25 pilots put

4997
03:42:41,600 --> 03:42:44,080
properties back on the tax roles that

4998
03:42:44,080 --> 03:42:46,880
previously were taxexempt and paid zero

4999
03:42:46,880 --> 03:42:49,840
in taxes. Please note that an additional

5000
03:42:49,840 --> 03:42:52,399
27 pilots allowed vacant buildings or

5001
03:42:52,399 --> 03:42:54,960
sites that paid nominal taxes to

5002
03:42:54,960 --> 03:42:57,760
generate new revenue. One council member

5003
03:42:57,760 --> 03:42:59,680
at your meeting mistakenly said that the

5004
03:42:59,680 --> 03:43:01,520
county attorney is involved in these

5005
03:43:01,520 --> 03:43:03,680
agreements. That is not the case. There

5006
03:43:03,680 --> 03:43:06,080
is a formal process that governs the

5007
03:43:06,080 --> 03:43:08,080
adoption of any pilot, including a

5008
03:43:08,080 --> 03:43:10,399
public hearing, public notice, and

5009
03:43:10,399 --> 03:43:12,000
approval at our meetings which are

5010
03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:13,680
televised and are all open to the

5011
03:43:13,680 --> 03:43:16,239
public. I would be happy to attend any

5012
03:43:16,239 --> 03:43:18,000
future meetings and review any questions

5013
03:43:18,000 --> 03:43:20,560
you have. These agreements have been

5014
03:43:20,560 --> 03:43:23,520
powerful new revenue generators for the

5015
03:43:23,520 --> 03:43:26,080
city and we are very proud of our role

5016
03:43:26,080 --> 03:43:28,399
in dramatically improving the city and

5017
03:43:28,399 --> 03:43:31,760
its tax base. Many other metrop projects

5018
03:43:31,760 --> 03:43:34,640
like the casino do not involve pilots

5019
03:43:34,640 --> 03:43:37,600
yet generate millions in revenue for the

5020
03:43:37,600 --> 03:43:39,760
city. When I sent the information back

5021
03:43:39,760 --> 03:43:41,359
in August, I was hoping that I might

5022
03:43:41,359 --> 03:43:43,680
receive some feedback, but have received

5023
03:43:43,680 --> 03:43:46,000
none to date. I am always willing to

5024
03:43:46,000 --> 03:43:49,439
available to discuss any questions. red.

5025
03:43:49,439 --> 03:43:52,880
Um, and in in response to that and

5026
03:43:52,880 --> 03:43:55,760
speaking with our assessor today, um, I

5027
03:43:55,760 --> 03:43:57,600
did find out that a lot of these pilots

5028
03:43:57,600 --> 03:44:01,439
on here, especially certain kind of uh,

5029
03:44:01,439 --> 03:44:05,199
pilots given since I can't mention them,

5030
03:44:05,199 --> 03:44:08,800
um, are looking for money and the money

5031
03:44:08,800 --> 03:44:12,560
uh, the city can't help these individual

5032
03:44:12,560 --> 03:44:14,160
businesses

5033
03:44:14,160 --> 03:44:17,840
um because of a rule called 85B and a

5034
03:44:17,840 --> 03:44:20,080
little bit business law. So anyway,

5035
03:44:20,080 --> 03:44:24,640
that's why Metroplex steps into a lot of these properties that have a

5036
03:44:24,640 --> 03:44:27,359
pilot to help out the city to increase

5037
03:44:27,359 --> 03:44:29,920
tax revenue, housing, and everything

5038
03:44:29,920 --> 03:44:32,080
else. So I just thought that that we

5039
03:44:32,080 --> 03:44:34,399
needed to at least respond to what we

5040
03:44:34,399 --> 03:44:36,800
all sat here last night and talked about

5041
03:44:36,800 --> 03:44:39,439
um the pilot. and and there's more and

5042
03:44:39,439 --> 03:44:41,600
so furthermore I and I think I also

5043
03:44:41,600 --> 03:44:44,319
mentioned I was in touch with Miss Maloy

5044
03:44:44,319 --> 03:44:46,080
and she was developing a report and she

5045
03:44:46,080 --> 03:44:47,680
said it was going to take a while and I

5046
03:44:47,680 --> 03:44:50,960
you know so I was and I talked to Mr.

5047
03:44:50,960 --> 03:44:52,800
Holden Campam since we want to discuss

5048
03:44:52,800 --> 03:44:54,880
all of this um I talked to Mr. Holden

5049
03:44:54,880 --> 03:44:56,880
Camp and asked about you know getting

5050
03:44:56,880 --> 03:44:59,040
the actual

5051
03:44:59,040 --> 03:45:00,800
um agreements

5052
03:45:00,800 --> 03:45:03,040
>> and she said

5053
03:45:03,040 --> 03:45:06,000
and he said you get that from from Mort.

5054
03:45:06,000 --> 03:45:07,520
So I asked for it. she told me it's

5055
03:45:07,520 --> 03:45:09,279
going to take some time to put together.

5056
03:45:09,279 --> 03:45:11,439
So I'm like going to give like half

5057
03:45:11,439 --> 03:45:14,640
information like okay or you know and

5058
03:45:14,640 --> 03:45:16,479
not have all the information for me say

5059
03:45:16,479 --> 03:45:18,239
it again. I was working on this and

5060
03:45:18,239 --> 03:45:20,080
didn't say it and maybe nobody was

5061
03:45:20,080 --> 03:45:22,800
listening in terms of pilots because we

5062
03:45:22,800 --> 03:45:26,239
need to take a look at that and um if

5063
03:45:26,239 --> 03:45:28,080
there's another report that I'm

5064
03:45:28,080 --> 03:45:29,920
receiving that there's something called

5065
03:45:29,920 --> 03:45:31,600
residential pilots. So, I'm not going to

5066
03:45:31,600 --> 03:45:33,760
like get deep into it, but there are

5067
03:45:33,760 --> 03:45:36,560
pilots where people are paying um based

5068
03:45:36,560 --> 03:45:41,680
on the particular um development that

5069
03:45:41,680 --> 03:45:43,600
the person who moves into it, and I

5070
03:45:43,600 --> 03:45:45,359
guess they're buying them in these

5071
03:45:45,359 --> 03:45:47,439
particular ones, that lowers their

5072
03:45:47,439 --> 03:45:49,279
taxes. So, I need to get some clarity on

5073
03:45:49,279 --> 03:45:50,880
how that works as well. And if you want

5074
03:45:50,880 --> 03:45:53,199
to ask them how feel about that, you

5075
03:45:53,199 --> 03:45:56,560
can. But there there are people who own

5076
03:45:56,560 --> 03:45:58,399
or buy these condos that are being

5077
03:45:58,399 --> 03:46:00,399
built. And so the pilot passes on to

5078
03:46:00,399 --> 03:46:03,199
individuals like where you were out that

5079
03:46:03,199 --> 03:46:05,680
so I would have to say maybe there's no

5080
03:46:05,680 --> 03:46:06,960
businesses that get it but there are

5081
03:46:06,960 --> 03:46:08,479
some residential pilots. I'm trying to

5082
03:46:08,479 --> 03:46:10,479
get clarity on how that works.

5083
03:46:10,479 --> 03:46:14,150
>> Thank you.

5084
03:46:14,160 --> 03:46:15,760
» Okay.

5085
03:46:15,760 --> 03:46:20,960
M can go through your recommendation

5086
03:46:20,960 --> 03:46:23,279
relatively brief.

5087
03:46:23,279 --> 03:46:27,600
Okay. So first line is state one 02

5088
03:46:27,600 --> 03:46:30,560
uncollected packets. Um I'm aligned with

5089
03:46:30,560 --> 03:46:34,560
Mr. Varian suggestion um reducing that

5090
03:46:34,560 --> 03:46:37,439
850. You said 800,000 right? But I said

5091
03:46:37,439 --> 03:46:38,800
850.

5092
03:46:38,800 --> 03:46:40,800
>> Oh you said 852

5093
03:46:40,800 --> 03:46:41,040
million.

5094
03:46:41,040 --> 03:46:42,560
>> That's fine. We're close.

5095
03:46:42,560 --> 03:46:44,880
>> He wanted to go to 2 million.

5096
03:46:44,880 --> 03:46:46,479
>> Yes. Wanted to go to 2 million which

5097
03:46:46,479 --> 03:46:51,040
would uh that would show back up in our

5098
03:46:51,040 --> 03:46:53,120
general fund. Okay. Uh,

5099
03:46:53,120 --> 03:46:54,239
>> I'm sorry.

5100
03:46:54,239 --> 03:46:59,670
>> Sure. Uh, A1 Z3.

5101
03:46:59,680 --> 03:47:01,359
» Oh,

5102
03:47:01,359 --> 03:47:02,800
so it's just that one's complicated

5103
03:47:02,800 --> 03:47:05,120
because it's like a reduction. Okay.

5104
03:47:05,120 --> 03:47:08,720
Next line. Uh, A16,

5105
03:47:08,720 --> 03:47:12,319
that's the cannabis tax. Um, based on

5106
03:47:12,319 --> 03:47:15,279
the conversation here, um, I would, uh,

5107
03:47:15,279 --> 03:47:18,319
feel comfortable, uh, adding 115,000 to

5108
03:47:18,319 --> 03:47:21,429
that.

5109
03:47:21,439 --> 03:47:25,429
Um,

5110
03:47:25,439 --> 03:47:27,279
» you know what? I'm sorry, but you said,

5111
03:47:27,279 --> 03:47:28,960
well, you you've said 2 million for the

5112
03:47:28,960 --> 03:47:30,000
first one that you were talking about,

5113
03:47:30,000 --> 03:47:31,680
right? I'm sorry. I'm losing track here.

5114
03:47:31,680 --> 03:47:32,479
>> It's okay.

5115
03:47:32,479 --> 03:47:36,880
>> For a 102, you're saying

5116
03:47:36,880 --> 03:47:39,199
>> that we should we should reduce that

5117
03:47:39,199 --> 03:47:40,239
numberion

5118
03:47:40,239 --> 03:47:41,199
>> to 2 million.

5119
03:47:41,199 --> 03:47:42,239
>> Okay. Thank you.

5120
03:47:42,239 --> 03:47:43,359
>> I'm sorry.

5121
03:47:43,359 --> 03:47:50,150
>> Be a net or be a gain of 850,000.

5122
03:47:50,160 --> 03:47:51,439
» Okay. Mhm.

5123
03:47:51,439 --> 03:47:53,840
>> Okay. Moving on to cannabis, which is

5124
03:47:53,840 --> 03:47:57,189
A16.

5125
03:47:57,199 --> 03:47:59,760
» I feel comfortable increasing that based

5126
03:47:59,760 --> 03:48:01,840
on the conversations here tonight. I I

5127
03:48:01,840 --> 03:48:04,399
feel comfortable basing raising that

5128
03:48:04,399 --> 03:48:09,110
$150,000

5129
03:48:09,120 --> 03:48:11,439
50.

5130
03:48:11,439 --> 03:48:14,239
>> Okay. And now I'm going to go to uh the

5131
03:48:14,239 --> 03:48:17,040
fines parking. Um and so after the

5132
03:48:17,040 --> 03:48:18,640
presentation

5133
03:48:18,640 --> 03:48:22,479
um I now there's there's a caveat there

5134
03:48:22,479 --> 03:48:24,399
because I think we need to understand I

5135
03:48:24,399 --> 03:48:27,760
need to be clear on if

5136
03:48:27,760 --> 03:48:30,640
um then that is already included in the

5137
03:48:30,640 --> 03:48:33,600
existing budget or not. Um, and if it is

5138
03:48:33,600 --> 03:48:38,319
not, then I then I $440,000

5139
03:48:38,319 --> 03:48:40,640
based on the formula that's that's

5140
03:48:40,640 --> 03:48:43,279
strictly based on the formula um that uh

5141
03:48:43,279 --> 03:48:45,920
the chief uh talked to us about today.

5142
03:48:45,920 --> 03:48:48,800
>> Um and if not, then I would be uh

5143
03:48:48,800 --> 03:48:52,239
looking to increase that 220,000.

5144
03:48:52,239 --> 03:48:54,399
>> May I before you proceed?

5145
03:48:54,399 --> 03:48:57,199
>> Mhm. If you look at the 2025

5146
03:48:57,199 --> 03:49:02,000
estimates on the 286 26

5147
03:49:02,000 --> 03:49:04,239
times parking

5148
03:49:04,239 --> 03:49:05,279
2025,

5149
03:49:05,279 --> 03:49:06,479
>> what page are you on? Just cuz I was

5150
03:49:06,479 --> 03:49:06,960
going to be

5151
03:49:06,960 --> 03:49:08,800
>> page 11. Okay.

5152
03:49:08,800 --> 03:49:11,040
>> Oh,

5153
03:49:11,040 --> 03:49:12,960
>> page 11.

5154
03:49:12,960 --> 03:49:14,399
>> Oh, our regular budget.

5155
03:49:14,399 --> 03:49:17,760
>> 2025. We're carrying 910.

5156
03:49:17,760 --> 03:49:20,560
They roll the same number into 2026

5157
03:49:20,560 --> 03:49:22,479
because they did not factor in the new

5158
03:49:22,479 --> 03:49:24,479
program that they're doing.

5159
03:49:24,479 --> 03:49:26,720
This is a new program they just started.

5160
03:49:26,720 --> 03:49:28,000
>> Okay. So, so

5161
03:49:28,000 --> 03:49:29,840
>> that's what my understanding is. So,

5162
03:49:29,840 --> 03:49:33,120
>> sure. So, in 910 they expect to do the

5163
03:49:33,120 --> 03:49:35,760
same 2025

5164
03:49:35,760 --> 03:49:39,040
910 into 2026. But because of this new

5165
03:49:39,040 --> 03:49:40,960
program, it's increasing the revenue.

5166
03:49:40,960 --> 03:49:44,080
>> Sure. So, so

5167
03:49:44,080 --> 03:49:46,560
if you look at you look at two 2025 and

5168
03:49:46,560 --> 03:49:48,960
20. It's absolutely

5169
03:49:48,960 --> 03:49:54,960
>> increase from 910 to plus 910 plus 400.

5170
03:49:54,960 --> 03:50:00,000
>> So I guess my only question then is they gave us

5171
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:03,439
see I'm I'm adding that uh 440,000 based

5172
03:50:03,439 --> 03:50:06,560
on the formula that you gave us that you

5173
03:50:06,560 --> 03:50:09,120
that you've given as well. But they and

5174
03:50:09,120 --> 03:50:15,269
they told us that that that

5175
03:50:15,279 --> 03:50:18,000
um that that is what created this

5176
03:50:18,000 --> 03:50:20,800
program that they're doing gave us the

5177
03:50:20,800 --> 03:50:24,560
220,000 to begin with. So if that's the

5178
03:50:24,560 --> 03:50:26,160
case, then I would number I would wonder

5179
03:50:26,160 --> 03:50:27,680
how where they would get that

5180
03:50:27,680 --> 03:50:28,560
information from. You see what I'm

5181
03:50:28,560 --> 03:50:29,439
saying? So in other words, they're

5182
03:50:29,439 --> 03:50:32,560
saying that it's 910 910. But if they

5183
03:50:32,560 --> 03:50:34,800
didn't include it,

5184
03:50:34,800 --> 03:50:37,040
then they were just telling us numbers

5185
03:50:37,040 --> 03:50:38,720
that only they know is what you're

5186
03:50:38,720 --> 03:50:39,040
saying.

5187
03:50:39,040 --> 03:50:40,960
>> That's correct. That's what she is.

5188
03:50:40,960 --> 03:50:41,840
>> Okay.

5189
03:50:41,840 --> 03:50:43,520
>> They have an internal proposal. This is

5190
03:50:43,520 --> 03:50:44,960
what they intend to certainly to

5191
03:50:44,960 --> 03:50:46,479
increase to increase revenue.

5192
03:50:46,479 --> 03:50:48,960
>> Sure. So for my numbers, I would I would

5193
03:50:48,960 --> 03:50:50,880
agree and based on the formula cuz

5194
03:50:50,880 --> 03:50:52,640
that's the number I got to up to

5195
03:50:52,640 --> 03:50:54,239
$440,000

5196
03:50:54,239 --> 03:51:00,560
in the case that it's not included. If if we misunderstood it, then I would be subtracting that in

5197
03:51:00,560 --> 03:51:04,160
half. So you think can just repeat me.

5198
03:51:04,160 --> 03:51:06,479
So you're saying

5199
03:51:06,479 --> 03:51:11,120
>> is does the 910 include the 440? Is that

5200
03:51:11,120 --> 03:51:12,560
what you're saying?

5201
03:51:12,560 --> 03:51:13,840
>> That's what you want to know.

5202
03:51:13,840 --> 03:51:15,439
>> Yeah. So I want to know I want to be

5203
03:51:15,439 --> 03:51:17,840
really clear as to

5204
03:51:17,840 --> 03:51:23,040
if if this new program because what the increase is based on the program.

5205
03:51:23,040 --> 03:51:26,880
They're saying that this many um uh

5206
03:51:26,880 --> 03:51:30,560
sessions equal $220,000.

5207
03:51:30,560 --> 03:51:33,279
Mr. Mudarian understands it as yes,

5208
03:51:33,279 --> 03:51:36,160
that's correct, but that's not reflected

5209
03:51:36,160 --> 03:51:39,279
in in in this existing budget. So, and

5210
03:51:39,279 --> 03:51:41,279
he said, "So, let's double it, which

5211
03:51:41,279 --> 03:51:42,800
would be

5212
03:51:42,800 --> 03:51:44,960
>> which would be 440." However, if it is

5213
03:51:44,960 --> 03:51:47,680
included, then I would say if we double

5214
03:51:47,680 --> 03:51:49,520
it, then it would only then it would uh

5215
03:51:49,520 --> 03:51:52,560
go to 220s, not to 440. open. So my

5216
03:51:52,560 --> 03:51:55,120
contingency is if it's if it's there, if

5217
03:51:55,120 --> 03:51:58,319
it's included and we double it, then add

5218
03:51:58,319 --> 03:52:01,359
220,000. If it's not included and we

5219
03:52:01,359 --> 03:52:03,520
double it, then add 440,000.

5220
03:52:03,520 --> 03:52:06,479
>> So do you

5221
03:52:06,479 --> 03:52:08,319
has a different there's been

5222
03:52:08,319 --> 03:52:10,399
>> I can send an email to the chief. Okay.

5223
03:52:10,399 --> 03:52:15,040
>> And clarify and go from there. The

5224
03:52:15,040 --> 03:52:15,760
simplest.

5225
03:52:15,760 --> 03:52:17,520
>> Yeah. So I just thought the easiest way

5226
03:52:17,520 --> 03:52:19,040
to do it would just give my numbers in

5227
03:52:19,040 --> 03:52:19,439
both case

5228
03:52:19,439 --> 03:52:22,479
>> scenario. I think you're ready.

5229
03:52:22,479 --> 03:52:24,960
>> Sure.

5230
03:52:24,960 --> 03:52:29,040
>> Okay. And so then I'll go um I'm just

5231
03:52:29,040 --> 03:52:31,279
going to go where I'm different at now.

5232
03:52:31,279 --> 03:52:35,920
Uh for our CBDG money. So my

5233
03:52:35,920 --> 03:52:38,960
understanding is 200 200k. That's line

5234
03:52:38,960 --> 03:52:41,040
A1621

5235
03:52:41,040 --> 03:52:43,760
is where we'll be adding that money. So

5236
03:52:43,760 --> 03:52:46,160
when I say adding, we would be adding

5237
03:52:46,160 --> 03:52:47,920
this money to that line. Meaning that

5238
03:52:47,920 --> 03:52:49,520
the money that's in the existing line

5239
03:52:49,520 --> 03:52:51,520
now would go back to our general fund

5240
03:52:51,520 --> 03:52:53,359
for 200,000.

5241
03:52:53,359 --> 03:52:55,199
>> Okay. Are you saying are you

5242
03:52:55,199 --> 03:52:56,319
recognizing? Are you

5243
03:52:56,319 --> 03:52:57,680
>> That sounds like an expense, right?

5244
03:52:57,680 --> 03:52:59,840
>> So, no, no, no, no, no. So, so to be

5245
03:52:59,840 --> 03:53:02,720
clear, um I'm talking about what Miss

5246
03:53:02,720 --> 03:53:04,720
Barbara presented with us.

5247
03:53:04,720 --> 03:53:07,439
>> She presented us with uh 200 I believe

5248
03:53:07,439 --> 03:53:10,880
it was $2,000 in one case,

5249
03:53:10,880 --> 03:53:12,080
>> huh?

5250
03:53:12,080 --> 03:53:13,439
>> The $200,000.

5251
03:53:13,439 --> 03:53:15,520
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then the maximum was

5252
03:53:15,520 --> 03:53:17,040
$26,000

5253
03:53:17,040 --> 03:53:18,640
if I'm correct.

5254
03:53:18,640 --> 03:53:20,479
>> They were both 200 and 200.

5255
03:53:20,479 --> 03:53:23,600
>> They both one was two

5256
03:53:23,600 --> 03:53:27,670
>> 20.

5257
03:53:27,680 --> 03:53:30,239
So So you give me your really damn

5258
03:53:30,239 --> 03:53:34,239
>> first 180 to 2178 uh was 22,000.

5259
03:53:34,239 --> 03:53:34,880
>> Mhm.

5260
03:53:34,880 --> 03:53:38,800
>> And the second 180 217 was 26,000.

5261
03:53:38,800 --> 03:53:41,439
>> Okay. Correct. That's what I got. So

5262
03:53:41,439 --> 03:53:44,720
>> Okay. Sure. So, so what I'm s So, I'm

5263
03:53:44,720 --> 03:53:47,680
suggesting that so that would be I can't

5264
03:53:47,680 --> 03:53:50,319
just we can't just add that to to

5265
03:53:50,319 --> 03:53:52,479
revenue in order for us to access that

5266
03:53:52,479 --> 03:53:58,160
fund. We have to we have to put this 2002,000

5267
03:53:58,160 --> 03:54:01,439
into line A1621

5268
03:54:01,439 --> 03:54:03,520
and then the money that's existing in

5269
03:54:03,520 --> 03:54:05,120
that would go back to our our general

5270
03:54:05,120 --> 03:54:07,520
thous.

5271
03:54:07,520 --> 03:54:09,760
It's not A16, but I think it would have

5272
03:54:09,760 --> 03:54:11,520
to

5273
03:54:11,520 --> 03:54:15,910
you have to put it into an extent.

5274
03:54:15,920 --> 03:54:18,399
» Uh, Mr. Carter.

5275
03:54:18,399 --> 03:54:20,560
>> Okay. I I I guess I was I'm doing the

5276
03:54:20,560 --> 03:54:22,560
math cuz she said it had to be in this

5277
03:54:22,560 --> 03:54:24,080
department in order for accesses, but

5278
03:54:24,080 --> 03:54:26,080
that's more operational stuff. So, so I

5279
03:54:26,080 --> 03:54:27,600
would just add those to the line.

5280
03:54:27,600 --> 03:54:31,120
>> You just add it to those 21.

5281
03:54:31,120 --> 03:54:33,359
>> Yeah. So, so I would increase the

5282
03:54:33,359 --> 03:54:36,000
revenue lines about 202,000. one case

5283
03:54:36,000 --> 03:54:38,239
and 206,000

5284
03:54:38,239 --> 03:54:39,760
and nothing. Right.

5285
03:54:39,760 --> 03:54:42,960
>> 2170A, I think you wanted to do 202.

5286
03:54:42,960 --> 03:54:43,439
>> Mhm.

5287
03:54:43,439 --> 03:54:45,760
>> And 2170C, I think you're saying

5288
03:54:45,760 --> 03:54:48,319
>> 206. That's correct.

5289
03:54:48,319 --> 03:54:50,080
>> Okay. I just want to write that in my

5290
03:54:50,080 --> 03:54:55,910
paper.

5291
03:54:55,920 --> 03:54:57,359
» Going to move on to the next one.

5292
03:54:57,359 --> 03:54:58,080
>> Yeah, please.

5293
03:54:58,080 --> 03:54:59,600
>> Okay.

5294
03:54:59,600 --> 03:55:01,120
>> Listen, man. Y'all got to calm down a

5295
03:55:01,120 --> 03:55:03,600
little bit. All right.

5296
03:55:03,600 --> 03:55:06,080
Are you with the mic for us?

5297
03:55:06,080 --> 03:55:12,950
>> I just I just

5298
03:55:12,960 --> 03:55:15,439
I'm just using mine to be able to do.

5299
03:55:15,439 --> 03:55:17,439
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not

5300
03:55:17,439 --> 03:55:20,479
>> Yeah. Yeah. I Yeah. I'm I'm almost done,

5301
03:55:20,479 --> 03:55:21,359
y'all.

5302
03:55:21,359 --> 03:55:24,960
>> No, we almost done. Okay. So, um line

5303
03:55:24,960 --> 03:55:26,800
A3089H

5304
03:55:26,800 --> 03:55:29,120
the casino.

5305
03:55:29,120 --> 03:55:29,760
>> Um

5306
03:55:29,760 --> 03:55:30,810
>> Okay.

5307
03:55:30,810 --> 03:55:32,160
[Music]

5308
03:55:32,160 --> 03:55:34,960
I'm I'm with uh I agree I agree with Mr.

5309
03:55:34,960 --> 03:55:38,399
Turo and increasing that line. Um she

5310
03:55:38,399 --> 03:55:40,640
had it at 500.

5311
03:55:40,640 --> 03:55:42,399
Is you had that 500, right? I'm just

5312
03:55:42,399 --> 03:55:44,560
saying two. I'm saying 200.

5313
03:55:44,560 --> 03:55:45,359
>> Okay.

5314
03:55:45,359 --> 03:55:45,680
>> Yeah.

5315
03:55:45,680 --> 03:55:46,960
>> Please tell me the line again. I'm

5316
03:55:46,960 --> 03:55:47,120
sorry.

5317
03:55:47,120 --> 03:55:49,680
>> No, no, no. It's all right. It is

5318
03:55:49,680 --> 03:55:52,160
83089H.

5319
03:55:52,160 --> 03:55:53,359
Right. Did I say that right?

5320
03:55:53,359 --> 03:55:55,520
>> 3089

5321
03:55:55,520 --> 03:55:58,640
89. Okay. You're saying what? And I'm

5322
03:55:58,640 --> 03:56:03,429
saying increase that by 200,000.

5323
03:56:03,439 --> 03:56:05,359
I want to say 500 too, Dorian, but I

5324
03:56:05,359 --> 03:56:06,319
can't quite get there.

5325
03:56:06,319 --> 03:56:08,560
>> I I know. I know. I'm hopeful.

5326
03:56:08,560 --> 03:56:11,120
>> Yes. Okay. Now, we're going to go I'm

5327
03:56:11,120 --> 03:56:14,239
going to go to uh the sales of houses.

5328
03:56:14,239 --> 03:56:22,630
That is line A2660A.

5329
03:56:22,640 --> 03:56:23,199
» Please.

5330
03:56:23,199 --> 03:56:24,399
>> Okay. I'm I want to make sure

5331
03:56:24,399 --> 03:56:26,560
everybody's there, man. All right.

5332
03:56:26,560 --> 03:56:29,040
We spend more time doing it and usually

5333
03:56:29,040 --> 03:56:31,840
that just pops out of Oh, 2660.

5334
03:56:31,840 --> 03:56:34,560
>> Yes. Okay, got we're there. So, I'm I

5335
03:56:34,560 --> 03:56:35,920
feel comfortable increasing that line.

5336
03:56:35,920 --> 03:56:39,670
$500,000.

5337
03:56:39,680 --> 03:56:41,359
» So, okay.

5338
03:56:41,359 --> 03:56:44,080
>> So, you want to go to 3.5 million.

5339
03:56:44,080 --> 03:56:45,600
>> $500,000.

5340
03:56:45,600 --> 03:56:49,910
Correct.

5341
03:56:49,920 --> 03:56:52,000
for our

5342
03:56:52,000 --> 03:56:56,870
mortgage tax increase.

5343
03:56:56,880 --> 03:56:58,880
I I So this is I have a question mark

5344
03:56:58,880 --> 03:57:00,080
here

5345
03:57:00,080 --> 03:57:02,720
>> because I I want to get uh Mr. Müer,

5346
03:57:02,720 --> 03:57:04,080
could you just give me a little bit your

5347
03:57:04,080 --> 03:57:06,800
reasoning on that again?

5348
03:57:06,800 --> 03:57:09,040
>> Okay. The

5349
03:57:09,040 --> 03:57:10,319
is based on the trend that's happening

5350
03:57:10,319 --> 03:57:11,920
in connectivity. We have seen we have

5351
03:57:11,920 --> 03:57:15,120
house the house price escalated over the

5352
03:57:15,120 --> 03:57:18,800
last few years. that the sale price is

5353
03:57:18,800 --> 03:57:20,560
far higher than three years ago.

5354
03:57:20,560 --> 03:57:20,960
>> Absolutely.

5355
03:57:20,960 --> 03:57:23,120
>> So the mortgage is more higher.

5356
03:57:23,120 --> 03:57:26,080
>> So in that case the municipality will

5357
03:57:26,080 --> 03:57:30,000
generate more um revenue mortgage tax

5358
03:57:30,000 --> 03:57:30,800
revenue.

5359
03:57:30,800 --> 03:57:31,199
>> Mhm.

5360
03:57:31,199 --> 03:57:32,800
>> And that's how I'm factoring that.

5361
03:57:32,800 --> 03:57:33,600
>> Sure.

5362
03:57:33,600 --> 03:57:36,160
>> So as the house price keep rising the

5363
03:57:36,160 --> 03:57:38,479
mortgage keep going up the taxes keep

5364
03:57:38,479 --> 03:57:39,520
going up for us.

5365
03:57:39,520 --> 03:57:42,000
>> That's yeah that's what we discussed.

5366
03:57:42,000 --> 03:57:42,479
Yes.

5367
03:57:42,479 --> 03:57:44,720
>> Okay. And I was and now was the two

5368
03:57:44,720 --> 03:57:48,160
properties that are um

5369
03:57:48,160 --> 03:57:50,000
wrapping up soon the two high value

5370
03:57:50,000 --> 03:57:51,439
properties was that

5371
03:57:51,439 --> 03:57:53,840
>> that wasn't attribute to that.

5372
03:57:53,840 --> 03:57:56,399
>> That was correct. We talk about that

5373
03:57:56,399 --> 03:57:56,880
situation,

5374
03:57:56,880 --> 03:58:02,229
>> right? But we sure yes

5375
03:58:02,239 --> 03:58:04,000
because of why my number went up that

5376
03:58:04,000 --> 03:58:04,319
high.

5377
03:58:04,319 --> 03:58:05,279
>> Oh no, I know why.

5378
03:58:05,279 --> 03:58:08,160
>> Uh the mayor looking at okay we have two

5379
03:58:08,160 --> 03:58:11,279
big projects you know happen.

5380
03:58:11,279 --> 03:58:12,720
>> Mhm. where that sort of is going to

5381
03:58:12,720 --> 03:58:15,439
happen this year. Those two more likely

5382
03:58:15,439 --> 03:58:17,199
will roll over into next year

5383
03:58:17,199 --> 03:58:18,560
>> and we're looking for high numbers

5384
03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:20,880
there. So you have 3 million and they

5385
03:58:20,880 --> 03:58:22,080
hope they're saying that okay it's going

5386
03:58:22,080 --> 03:58:23,359
to happen this year is what might not

5387
03:58:23,359 --> 03:58:25,120
happen. So that money needs to roll over

5388
03:58:25,120 --> 03:58:26,880
into next year. So that's all back to

5389
03:58:26,880 --> 03:58:27,680
1.5 million.

5390
03:58:27,680 --> 03:58:29,279
>> Yes. So it's going to happen next year

5391
03:58:29,279 --> 03:58:30,399
>> and that based on

5392
03:58:30,399 --> 03:58:31,600
>> we only have two months more

5393
03:58:31,600 --> 03:58:33,680
>> connected. I thought you said 1.4

5394
03:58:33,680 --> 03:58:35,600
million but you're saying 1.5 million.

5395
03:58:35,600 --> 03:58:37,520
>> Yes. 1.5 million. I see.

5396
03:58:37,520 --> 03:58:39,199
>> So, so for that line, I just wanted to

5397
03:58:39,199 --> 03:58:41,199
make sure that that um so for that line

5398
03:58:41,199 --> 03:58:43,279
based on what uh Miss Carver was saying

5399
03:58:43,279 --> 03:58:45,600
and and you know, I figured those two

5400
03:58:45,600 --> 03:58:49,199
property sales going through can uh make

5401
03:58:49,199 --> 03:58:50,640
a huge difference, but being that we're

5402
03:58:50,640 --> 03:58:52,399
not exactly sure where they were fall, I

5403
03:58:52,399 --> 03:58:53,920
just felt a little I went a little more

5404
03:58:53,920 --> 03:58:56,319
conservative at 500,000 on that one.

5405
03:58:56,319 --> 03:58:59,760
>> So, so instead of 950,

5406
03:58:59,760 --> 03:59:01,760
>> yeah, I just wanted to reference that.

5407
03:59:01,760 --> 03:59:03,279
>> So, no, that I did something confusing.

5408
03:59:03,279 --> 03:59:04,720
That's fine. Go back to your mobile.

5409
03:59:04,720 --> 03:59:08,000
>> Okay. So, so more so, so yeah. So, uh,

5410
03:59:08,000 --> 03:59:10,560
so for a mortgage tax, um, I felt

5411
03:59:10,560 --> 03:59:14,560
comfortable increasing that $200,000.

5412
03:59:14,560 --> 03:59:19,199
>> So, that would be, uh, 1

5413
03:59:19,199 --> 03:59:21,040
>> A30005.

5414
03:59:21,040 --> 03:59:24,479
Yes. $200,000.

5415
03:59:24,479 --> 03:59:27,520
So, that would be 1.2.

5416
03:59:27,520 --> 03:59:29,600
>> Mhm.

5417
03:59:29,600 --> 03:59:39,670
All right.

5418
03:59:39,680 --> 03:59:45,120
And oh, bus patrol.

5419
03:59:45,120 --> 03:59:48,319
Let make sure I got that line right.

5420
03:59:48,319 --> 03:59:51,760
>> That's that's A2610B,

5421
03:59:51,760 --> 03:59:52,800
right?

5422
03:59:52,800 --> 03:59:55,760
>> And like and like Nancy. Okay. Party.

5423
03:59:55,760 --> 03:59:58,399
Yeah. So,

5424
03:59:58,399 --> 04:00:01,920
being that there's uh $600,000

5425
04:00:01,920 --> 04:00:04,960
out there, I was I felt comfortable um

5426
04:00:04,960 --> 04:00:07,199
in saying agreeing like if we could

5427
04:00:07,199 --> 04:00:09,040
collect a third of that, I'm pretty

5428
04:00:09,040 --> 04:00:10,399
confident that just a third of that

5429
04:00:10,399 --> 04:00:12,560
would get us to $200,000. So, that's

5430
04:00:12,560 --> 04:00:15,680
where I was at on that line.

5431
04:00:15,680 --> 04:00:20,160
Increased of $200,000 that 600 bas just

5432
04:00:20,160 --> 04:00:22,399
being successful collecting a third of

5433
04:00:22,399 --> 04:00:24,399
that.

5434
04:00:24,399 --> 04:00:26,160
You're very conservative, huh?

5435
04:00:26,160 --> 04:00:28,000
>> You're very conservative. What the hell?

5436
04:00:28,000 --> 04:00:29,840
Really?

5437
04:00:29,840 --> 04:00:34,229
I say you have more than

5438
04:00:34,239 --> 04:00:39,520
I say you were. All right. And um so and

5439
04:00:39,520 --> 04:00:44,800
the last thing uh as far as

5440
04:00:44,800 --> 04:00:48,399
our golf, listen, I was faster than all

5441
04:00:48,399 --> 04:00:49,760
of y'all, by the way. Just so you know,

5442
04:00:49,760 --> 04:00:52,319
I'm like going record time.

5443
04:00:52,319 --> 04:00:53,600
So,

5444
04:00:53,600 --> 04:00:55,199
>> okay. Hey, listen. I'm just saying. All

5445
04:00:55,199 --> 04:00:59,600
right. All right. So, so uh the

5446
04:00:59,600 --> 04:01:02,479
so our golf our golf reserve which is

5447
04:01:02,479 --> 04:01:04,239
CR9950

5448
04:01:04,239 --> 04:01:06,479
for the golf reserve there. Could you

5449
04:01:06,479 --> 04:01:08,160
help me understand that again? because I

5450
04:01:08,160 --> 04:01:10,640
want to make sure that I'm understanding

5451
04:01:10,640 --> 04:01:13,199
that because what I see is I was

5452
04:01:13,199 --> 04:01:20,080
suggesting that that golf reserve money goes into

5453
04:01:20,080 --> 04:01:23,199
the the capital fund but for the golf

5454
04:01:23,199 --> 04:01:24,560
course particularly that's how I

5455
04:01:24,560 --> 04:01:27,040
understand that

5456
04:01:27,040 --> 04:01:31,990
>> I'm looking at revenue I believe

5457
04:01:32,000 --> 04:01:35,040
» if you're looking at the transfer from

5458
04:01:35,040 --> 04:01:38,160
there have to some increase the fund

5459
04:01:38,160 --> 04:01:39,760
which would refund one of the revenue

5460
04:01:39,760 --> 04:01:43,840
lines which they usually um bring the

5461
04:01:43,840 --> 04:01:47,760
capital on that and Chris in January. So

5462
04:01:47,760 --> 04:01:50,560
we have to figure out what is $150,000

5463
04:01:50,560 --> 04:01:52,800
increase and you go to your expense line

5464
04:01:52,800 --> 04:01:55,040
of transfers see the transfer the

5465
04:01:55,040 --> 04:01:57,600
general fund by 150.

5466
04:01:57,600 --> 04:02:01,760
>> Mhm. So, yeah, cuz cuz right now it

5467
04:02:01,760 --> 04:02:03,680
says, let me see here. Where are we?

5468
04:02:03,680 --> 04:02:05,439
>> Let me make sure I'm in the right place

5469
04:02:05,439 --> 04:02:07,279
here.

5470
04:02:07,279 --> 04:02:08,239
>> Trying to find it.

5471
04:02:08,239 --> 04:02:09,760
>> Yeah, it's it's like in the back here.

5472
04:02:09,760 --> 04:02:10,560
So, it's

5473
04:02:10,560 --> 04:02:13,040
>> that that's

5474
04:02:13,040 --> 04:02:20,150
it doesn't

5475
04:02:20,160 --> 04:02:21,920
transfers from golf.

5476
04:02:21,920 --> 04:02:28,640
>> Right. So, if you look at the bottom of page 90,

5477
04:02:28,640 --> 04:02:32,960
>> right, where it says I'm looking at

5478
04:02:32,960 --> 04:02:34,800
>> transfer to capital fund.

5479
04:02:34,800 --> 04:02:35,279
>> Mhm.

5480
04:02:35,279 --> 04:02:38,880
>> So, in 2023, it was 213,000.

5481
04:02:38,880 --> 04:02:41,760
>> It would be it would be the uh general

5482
04:02:41,760 --> 04:02:44,000
fund looking for youth.

5483
04:02:44,000 --> 04:02:45,760
>> No, no, no, no, no. Youth is covered.

5484
04:02:45,760 --> 04:02:48,479
You're maybe

5485
04:02:48,479 --> 04:02:51,439
it's CR990191

5486
04:02:51,439 --> 04:02:54,870
trans.

5487
04:02:54,880 --> 04:02:57,040
» Yes. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. So, listen.

5488
04:02:57,040 --> 04:02:59,840
So, let me follow my train of thought

5489
04:02:59,840 --> 04:03:01,840
for a second. So, what I'm saying is

5490
04:03:01,840 --> 04:03:03,439
that

5491
04:03:03,439 --> 04:03:08,790
on line CR9950498

5492
04:03:08,800 --> 04:03:11,760
that says transfer to capital fund. Now

5493
04:03:11,760 --> 04:03:13,760
when it when we say transfer to capital

5494
04:03:13,760 --> 04:03:15,920
fund that's transferred to the golf

5495
04:03:15,920 --> 04:03:17,760
course capital fund correct or is that

5496
04:03:17,760 --> 04:03:18,640
the city

5497
04:03:18,640 --> 04:03:21,120
>> that goes into the office that's the

5498
04:03:21,120 --> 04:03:21,840
reserves

5499
04:03:21,840 --> 04:03:23,760
>> the reserves for the

5500
04:03:23,760 --> 04:03:28,309
>> for the golf course

5501
04:03:28,319 --> 04:03:30,960
» it's not just for the golf course it's

5502
04:03:30,960 --> 04:03:31,920
just for the golf course

5503
04:03:31,920 --> 04:03:33,520
>> right it's just for the golf course

5504
04:03:33,520 --> 04:03:35,760
>> you can't use we can't use capital money

5505
04:03:35,760 --> 04:03:36,640
for youth

5506
04:03:36,640 --> 04:03:38,640
>> no no no guess we no no you're not

5507
04:03:38,640 --> 04:03:41,120
saying so no no what this how I

5508
04:03:41,120 --> 04:03:43,279
understand it that there is a reserve

5509
04:03:43,279 --> 04:03:46,560
fund or a a capital fund. So in other

5510
04:03:46,560 --> 04:03:48,880
words, a portion of revenues that the

5511
04:03:48,880 --> 04:03:50,239
golf course makes,

5512
04:03:50,239 --> 04:03:52,399
>> they take that money and put it into a

5513
04:03:52,399 --> 04:03:55,040
line for their only their specific

5514
04:03:55,040 --> 04:03:56,640
capital fun.

5515
04:03:56,640 --> 04:04:00,160
>> So So we can access that money.

5516
04:04:00,160 --> 04:04:00,479
>> Sure.

5517
04:04:00,479 --> 04:04:02,080
>> The reason why we can't use other

5518
04:04:02,080 --> 04:04:04,080
capital fund money is because we borrow

5519
04:04:04,080 --> 04:04:06,800
that money to do capital projects. This

5520
04:04:06,800 --> 04:04:08,560
is money that's coming into the city

5521
04:04:08,560 --> 04:04:10,479
that is earmarked for the golf courses

5522
04:04:10,479 --> 04:04:11,520
capital fund.

5523
04:04:11,520 --> 04:04:13,520
>> So what capital fund would you use with

5524
04:04:13,520 --> 04:04:14,560
that money?

5525
04:04:14,560 --> 04:04:17,359
>> So what I'm suggesting is that if we if

5526
04:04:17,359 --> 04:04:20,640
we look at it in two in in 2023 it was

5527
04:04:20,640 --> 04:04:22,399
213,000

5528
04:04:22,399 --> 04:04:25,840
2024 it was 160,000. So I was saying

5529
04:04:25,840 --> 04:04:30,880
that 150,000 that I think that that's a

5530
04:04:30,880 --> 04:04:32,239
fair

5531
04:04:32,239 --> 04:04:33,520
>> but it's capital.

5532
04:04:33,520 --> 04:04:35,359
>> No you're No, you're No, you're not.

5533
04:04:35,359 --> 04:04:36,640
You're wrong. I guess that's your

5534
04:04:36,640 --> 04:04:36,960
question.

5535
04:04:36,960 --> 04:04:38,720
>> No, you're No, you're it's not.

5536
04:04:38,720 --> 04:04:40,239
>> I hear you. It's general fund money

5537
04:04:40,239 --> 04:04:42,239
because it's capital fun. It doesn't

5538
04:04:42,239 --> 04:04:44,880
become until they spend it on their own.

5539
04:04:44,880 --> 04:04:48,720
>> It's not. So what you're doing,

5540
04:04:48,720 --> 04:04:55,199
please let me finish. Let it please. So I So I think the fact that Mayor I

5541
04:04:55,199 --> 04:04:56,960
think the fact that it says transfer to

5542
04:04:56,960 --> 04:04:58,960
capital fund is kind of what might be

5543
04:04:58,960 --> 04:04:59,600
throwing you off.

5544
04:04:59,600 --> 04:05:00,720
>> It's not throwing me off at all because

5545
04:05:00,720 --> 04:05:02,560
I see the transfer to the general fund.

5546
04:05:02,560 --> 04:05:04,720
>> Exactly. That's from the Gulf. Right.

5547
04:05:04,720 --> 04:05:06,399
That's okay. All right. So, all right.

5548
04:05:06,399 --> 04:05:09,359
So, is it? Yes, it is. So, so listen to

5549
04:05:09,359 --> 04:05:11,120
what I'm saying. I'm going to use a

5550
04:05:11,120 --> 04:05:12,640
hypothetical number here just so the

5551
04:05:12,640 --> 04:05:15,680
math is a lot easier. Okay. Say the the

5552
04:05:15,680 --> 04:05:19,199
say that the golf course makes $200,000

5553
04:05:19,199 --> 04:05:21,359
in revenue.

5554
04:05:21,359 --> 04:05:25,040
$100,000 of that revenue goes into our

5555
04:05:25,040 --> 04:05:27,040
general fund is what is is the line

5556
04:05:27,040 --> 04:05:28,479
you're talking about. Mhm.

5557
04:05:28,479 --> 04:05:31,120
>> Then the golf course takes another the

5558
04:05:31,120 --> 04:05:33,760
other $100,000 and transfers that into

5559
04:05:33,760 --> 04:05:36,080
their own capital fund.

5560
04:05:36,080 --> 04:05:36,720
>> Mhm.

5561
04:05:36,720 --> 04:05:40,080
>> Which actually could be money that goes

5562
04:05:40,080 --> 04:05:42,080
into the general fund.

5563
04:05:42,080 --> 04:05:44,640
>> This is not Are you see what I'm saying

5564
04:05:44,640 --> 04:05:45,439
now?

5565
04:05:45,439 --> 04:05:49,040
>> Yeah. That's what's happened, right?

5566
04:05:49,040 --> 04:05:50,479
So I have I have a question for the

5567
04:05:50,479 --> 04:05:53,040
commissioner because

5568
04:05:53,040 --> 04:05:55,439
>> historically the c the god fund has

5569
04:05:55,439 --> 04:05:57,600
always been for lack of a better term a

5570
04:05:57,600 --> 04:06:01,760
lock box. It goes way back because of

5571
04:06:01,760 --> 04:06:03,680
improvements that needed to be done that

5572
04:06:03,680 --> 04:06:05,760
weren't done and they wanted to create a

5573
04:06:05,760 --> 04:06:08,960
dedicated funding stream so

5574
04:06:08,960 --> 04:06:11,040
>> so any you know the fees of the golf

5575
04:06:11,040 --> 04:06:13,520
course would be generated to deal with

5576
04:06:13,520 --> 04:06:15,199
golf course improvements and

5577
04:06:15,199 --> 04:06:15,920
maintenance.

5578
04:06:15,920 --> 04:06:20,080
>> Yes. Okay. So, so is the golf is the

5579
04:06:20,080 --> 04:06:21,920
golf fund transferring money to the

5580
04:06:21,920 --> 04:06:23,520
general fund?

5581
04:06:23,520 --> 04:06:26,239
>> And every year, every year there's a

5582
04:06:26,239 --> 04:06:28,479
certain amount that we transfer over to

5583
04:06:28,479 --> 04:06:31,840
the golf the general to the water. Um,

5584
04:06:31,840 --> 04:06:32,880
it's in the budget.

5585
04:06:32,880 --> 04:06:34,880
>> Yeah.

5586
04:06:34,880 --> 04:06:36,800
A certain amount of capital fund money

5587
04:06:36,800 --> 04:06:40,399
so we don't end up borrowing for capital

5588
04:06:40,399 --> 04:06:42,720
projects that

5589
04:06:42,720 --> 04:06:46,000
we earark a certain amount. So we don't

5590
04:06:46,000 --> 04:06:47,680
suggest dipping into that.

5591
04:06:47,680 --> 04:06:50,479
>> That's fine. What I'm saying is that the

5592
04:06:50,479 --> 04:06:52,560
restrictions when we when we're talking

5593
04:06:52,560 --> 04:06:54,720
about capital money in any other place

5594
04:06:54,720 --> 04:06:57,359
in this budget, those are funds that we

5595
04:06:57,359 --> 04:07:00,000
cannot that we have very tight

5596
04:07:00,000 --> 04:07:02,640
restrictions that we have,

5597
04:07:02,640 --> 04:07:05,760
right? That's law.

5598
04:07:05,760 --> 04:07:09,680
This capital money is only capital money

5599
04:07:09,680 --> 04:07:11,920
because we're calling it capital money,

5600
04:07:11,920 --> 04:07:13,680
but it really could go into the general

5601
04:07:13,680 --> 04:07:15,040
fund.

5602
04:07:15,040 --> 04:07:16,880
right or wrong. Can I ask a question

5603
04:07:16,880 --> 04:07:19,199
because my understanding has always been

5604
04:07:19,199 --> 04:07:20,640
for all the years that I've been on

5605
04:07:20,640 --> 04:07:27,279
doing this that is what we're doing on page

5606
04:07:27,279 --> 04:07:35,429
90

5607
04:07:35,439 --> 04:07:37,040
knows more about this than I think

5608
04:07:37,040 --> 04:07:38,960
anyone

5609
04:07:38,960 --> 04:07:39,520
just

5610
04:07:39,520 --> 04:07:42,160
>> I just have one question that's all

5611
04:07:42,160 --> 04:07:44,319
>> I just want to ask this one question

5612
04:07:44,319 --> 04:07:48,160
because I thought if you look at page 90

5613
04:07:48,160 --> 04:07:49,680
>> I am

5614
04:07:49,680 --> 04:07:51,359
>> I thought that the transfer to the

5615
04:07:51,359 --> 04:07:52,960
general fund, the transfer to the water

5616
04:07:52,960 --> 04:07:54,800
fund and the transfer to the sewer fund

5617
04:07:54,800 --> 04:07:57,040
is coming from golf fund.

5618
04:07:57,040 --> 04:07:58,000
>> It is.

5619
04:07:58,000 --> 04:07:59,840
>> Yeah. So we already are taking the golf

5620
04:07:59,840 --> 04:08:02,479
money and putting it into those free

5621
04:08:02,479 --> 04:08:04,800
funds. And if you look also we're not

5622
04:08:04,800 --> 04:08:06,800
taking any money and putting it into a

5623
04:08:06,800 --> 04:08:09,680
capital fund for this year. Go ahead.

5624
04:08:09,680 --> 04:08:11,359
>> No, it just because we don't know we are

5625
04:08:11,359 --> 04:08:12,720
going to take money put into a capital

5626
04:08:12,720 --> 04:08:13,040
fund.

5627
04:08:13,040 --> 04:08:14,000
>> No, because we don't have the funds.

5628
04:08:14,000 --> 04:08:15,120
just don't have the money. We don't have

5629
04:08:15,120 --> 04:08:17,120
the final figures

5630
04:08:17,120 --> 04:08:18,000
of surplus,

5631
04:08:18,000 --> 04:08:18,640
>> right?

5632
04:08:18,640 --> 04:08:20,239
>> That's right.

5633
04:08:20,239 --> 04:08:22,479
That's why you see the budget amount of

5634
04:08:22,479 --> 04:08:24,960
both adopted for 2021.

5635
04:08:24,960 --> 04:08:27,359
>> Correct.

5636
04:08:27,359 --> 04:08:29,600
>> Commissioner the transfers to water and

5637
04:08:29,600 --> 04:08:32,800
sewer funds because the facility uses

5638
04:08:32,800 --> 04:08:35,040
water and sewer. Correct. So therefore,

5639
04:08:35,040 --> 04:08:38,399
it's representing the pay as you go the

5640
04:08:38,399 --> 04:08:40,560
docks. Right. So that's to come you're

5641
04:08:40,560 --> 04:08:42,880
getting those transfers not just for

5642
04:08:42,880 --> 04:08:44,720
bookkeeping purposes. It's it's

5643
04:08:44,720 --> 04:08:46,880
representing the use. Correct.

5644
04:08:46,880 --> 04:08:51,120
>> So the capital fund transfer is the

5645
04:08:51,120 --> 04:08:53,199
money that will be used for capital

5646
04:08:53,199 --> 04:08:55,359
projects

5647
04:08:55,359 --> 04:08:56,960
at at the golf course.

5648
04:08:56,960 --> 04:08:57,760
>> Yes.

5649
04:08:57,760 --> 04:09:00,640
>> So that is that money has been generated

5650
04:09:00,640 --> 04:09:04,319
from the fees of of golfers.

5651
04:09:04,319 --> 04:09:05,040
>> Right.

5652
04:09:05,040 --> 04:09:07,439
>> Correct. So, and therefore in keeping

5653
04:09:07,439 --> 04:09:09,760
with the lock box mentality by the very

5654
04:09:09,760 --> 04:09:12,239
fact that we have a separate line items

5655
04:09:12,239 --> 04:09:13,680
for the golf

5656
04:09:13,680 --> 04:09:15,920
>> has to be kept separate. Is that is that

5657
04:09:15,920 --> 04:09:18,080
>> no

5658
04:09:18,080 --> 04:09:21,199
from my understanding years past that's

5659
04:09:21,199 --> 04:09:22,399
how it's always been done?

5660
04:09:22,399 --> 04:09:23,680
>> I'm not asking how it's always been

5661
04:09:23,680 --> 04:09:25,520
done. I'm asking is that do we are we

5662
04:09:25,520 --> 04:09:27,680
legally obligated to do it that way?

5663
04:09:27,680 --> 04:09:30,239
>> I you know I'm just have to I would have

5664
04:09:30,239 --> 04:09:32,080
to I can't even answer right now. I have

5665
04:09:32,080 --> 04:09:33,279
to look at

5666
04:09:33,279 --> 04:09:35,359
>> He wants to Yeah. So, I'm going to have

5667
04:09:35,359 --> 04:09:37,199
to take a look. You know, it's the

5668
04:09:37,199 --> 04:09:40,479
gospel and and what created it was very

5669
04:09:40,479 --> 04:09:43,040
it's in our code. I think the

5670
04:09:43,040 --> 04:09:46,399
commissioner got I don't know but the

5671
04:09:46,399 --> 04:09:49,040
idea is it was a lock box for capital

5672
04:09:49,040 --> 04:09:55,840
improvements because it was under the golf course was going in a certain

5673
04:09:55,840 --> 04:09:58,960
negative direction and that that was way

5674
04:09:58,960 --> 04:10:01,520
the council at the time wanted to go to

5675
04:10:01,520 --> 04:10:03,680
create a fund for separate from the

5676
04:10:03,680 --> 04:10:05,840
general fund. So can I ask one more

5677
04:10:05,840 --> 04:10:08,080
question you're trying to get is there a

5678
04:10:08,080 --> 04:10:09,600
reason that you wouldn't look at the

5679
04:10:09,600 --> 04:10:11,120
transfer to the general fund for that

5680
04:10:11,120 --> 04:10:12,560
money

5681
04:10:12,560 --> 04:10:15,040
>> because the transfer to the general fund

5682
04:10:15,040 --> 04:10:16,720
that money was already in the general

5683
04:10:16,720 --> 04:10:19,120
fund

5684
04:10:19,120 --> 04:10:20,640
>> he's looking for more money

5685
04:10:20,640 --> 04:10:23,199
>> so in other words of course I

5686
04:10:23,199 --> 04:10:24,800
>> no no I know

5687
04:10:24,800 --> 04:10:27,840
>> we all are right we just do that or am I

5688
04:10:27,840 --> 04:10:29,920
missing something we all said move take

5689
04:10:29,920 --> 04:10:31,359
but right so that's what I'm doing

5690
04:10:31,359 --> 04:10:34,000
>> and then have the golf course borrow the

5691
04:10:34,000 --> 04:10:37,199
capital instead of funding their own if

5692
04:10:37,199 --> 04:10:38,640
no I understand what you're saying or

5693
04:10:38,640 --> 04:10:41,120
that's what you're getting at or maybe

5694
04:10:41,120 --> 04:10:42,399
76,000 more

5695
04:10:42,399 --> 04:10:44,960
>> or maybe we just recognize that we just

5696
04:10:44,960 --> 04:10:47,359
invested $3 million of ARPA fund into

5697
04:10:47,359 --> 04:10:50,080
the golf course just last year and

5698
04:10:50,080 --> 04:10:52,640
recognizing that we put three $3 million

5699
04:10:52,640 --> 04:10:55,279
into the golf course fund that there is

5700
04:10:55,279 --> 04:10:58,399
no lockbox fund we're calling this

5701
04:10:58,399 --> 04:11:00,880
capital funds but these but these funds

5702
04:11:00,880 --> 04:11:03,120
are not under the same restrictions that

5703
04:11:03,120 --> 04:11:04,640
other capital funds are because we're

5704
04:11:04,640 --> 04:11:06,319
borrowing capital funds for capital

5705
04:11:06,319 --> 04:11:09,840
projects. This is city revenue that that

5706
04:11:09,840 --> 04:11:13,040
we're holding aside for capital projects

5707
04:11:13,040 --> 04:11:15,680
uh strictly for the golf course. And I'm

5708
04:11:15,680 --> 04:11:17,279
saying that we just put $3 million in

5709
04:11:17,279 --> 04:11:18,560
the golf course and this is not the year

5710
04:11:18,560 --> 04:11:21,760
to be doing that.

5711
04:11:21,760 --> 04:11:23,520
>> Mr. I think I think

5712
04:11:23,520 --> 04:11:25,040
>> I think the description needs to be

5713
04:11:25,040 --> 04:11:26,960
changed because that is revenue that is

5714
04:11:26,960 --> 04:11:28,319
coming in from the golf course.

5715
04:11:28,319 --> 04:11:28,720
>> Thank you.

5716
04:11:28,720 --> 04:11:31,040
>> And they're trying to hold that money.

5717
04:11:31,040 --> 04:11:35,120
The surplus is being used to help with

5718
04:11:35,120 --> 04:11:38,160
projects within the Gulf Coast. So it's

5719
04:11:38,160 --> 04:11:39,279
revenue.

5720
04:11:39,279 --> 04:11:40,319
>> Exactly.

5721
04:11:40,319 --> 04:11:43,680
>> Like back out expenditure surplus. They

5722
04:11:43,680 --> 04:11:46,239
hold it in there for future project.

5723
04:11:46,239 --> 04:11:47,920
That is not capital. It should be

5724
04:11:47,920 --> 04:11:49,279
capital.

5725
04:11:49,279 --> 04:11:50,960
>> It's for capital project, but it's not

5726
04:11:50,960 --> 04:11:53,439
capital money. Exactly.

5727
04:11:53,439 --> 04:11:56,239
>> So let's So that description should be

5728
04:11:56,239 --> 04:11:58,080
changed. Well, they they they've been

5729
04:11:58,080 --> 04:12:00,880
using it per capital. What I'm saying,

5730
04:12:00,880 --> 04:12:02,399
the same way that Mr. Williams is

5731
04:12:02,399 --> 04:12:04,960
suggesting that we're not borrowing all

5732
04:12:04,960 --> 04:12:06,800
of this money for capital projects in

5733
04:12:06,800 --> 04:12:08,560
other places because that's going to

5734
04:12:08,560 --> 04:12:11,199
impact the city. What I'm saying is that

5735
04:12:11,199 --> 04:12:15,920
this is a fund that has been called

5736
04:12:15,920 --> 04:12:17,680
something and operating something other

5737
04:12:17,680 --> 04:12:21,840
than what I believe it is to Mr. Moods,

5738
04:12:21,840 --> 04:12:23,359
but I'm saying that this is money that's

5739
04:12:23,359 --> 04:12:26,080
accessible to us. We And being that I

5740
04:12:26,080 --> 04:12:28,080
don't think that that's a tall order. We

5741
04:12:28,080 --> 04:12:30,080
just It is. Absolutely. It is.

5742
04:12:30,080 --> 04:12:31,279
>> But we're not going to use it. We're not

5743
04:12:31,279 --> 04:12:31,840
touching it.

5744
04:12:31,840 --> 04:12:33,520
>> Well, I think we should.

5745
04:12:33,520 --> 04:12:35,279
>> I just And you got to stay away from

5746
04:12:35,279 --> 04:12:37,279
giving them 3 million because we handed

5747
04:12:37,279 --> 04:12:38,800
out a lot of ARPA money.

5748
04:12:38,800 --> 04:12:40,880
>> But no, I'm going to talk about that

5749
04:12:40,880 --> 04:12:41,760
back from people.

5750
04:12:41,760 --> 04:12:43,359
>> Of course we are. The whole point of us

5751
04:12:43,359 --> 04:12:45,600
investing into the golf golf course.

5752
04:12:45,600 --> 04:12:48,160
>> Well, to increase revenue

5753
04:12:48,160 --> 04:12:50,640
so we could Right. So when we need

5754
04:12:50,640 --> 04:12:53,199
>> back into the

5755
04:12:53,199 --> 04:12:55,680
>> So are we are we are we not going to

5756
04:12:55,680 --> 04:12:56,640
compliment each other?

5757
04:12:56,640 --> 04:12:58,960
>> No. No. Go. So raise my hand.

5758
04:12:58,960 --> 04:13:04,399
>> Please please hold on. Finish off your presentation. Please.

5759
04:13:04,399 --> 04:13:06,399
You finished?

5760
04:13:06,399 --> 04:13:08,479
>> I'm done.

5761
04:13:08,479 --> 04:13:10,239
>> No, but you

5762
04:13:10,239 --> 04:13:12,000
>> I can I just add something to your

5763
04:13:12,000 --> 04:13:12,560
presentation?

5764
04:13:12,560 --> 04:13:13,600
>> Sure. I'm

5765
04:13:13,600 --> 04:13:16,000
>> so Because when um Matt Daily was here,

5766
04:13:16,000 --> 04:13:17,600
he was and we were he was talking about

5767
04:13:17,600 --> 04:13:19,279
different ways. He came up with a

5768
04:13:19,279 --> 04:13:21,199
scenario where they would do an event

5769
04:13:21,199 --> 04:13:22,720
bank or something to raise that extra

5770
04:13:22,720 --> 04:13:24,640
money and charge people whatever is a

5771
04:13:24,640 --> 04:13:25,920
whole

5772
04:13:25,920 --> 04:13:29,680
>> organ sponsor

5773
04:13:29,680 --> 04:13:32,000
and have that money definitely dedicated

5774
04:13:32,000 --> 04:13:34,640
to the service program. So I just want

5775
04:13:34,640 --> 04:13:36,159
to just bring that back to the

5776
04:13:36,159 --> 04:13:38,159
conversation because there was he did

5777
04:13:38,159 --> 04:13:41,040
introduce a possibility of a way to get

5778
04:13:41,040 --> 04:13:42,319
done what you're trying to get done

5779
04:13:42,319 --> 04:13:44,479
which is I guess another 150 right.

5780
04:13:44,479 --> 04:13:46,880
>> No I'm not. No I'm not. What's I'm

5781
04:13:46,880 --> 04:13:48,720
trying to what I'm trying to increase

5782
04:13:48,720 --> 04:13:50,800
revenues. What I'm saying is that we

5783
04:13:50,800 --> 04:13:52,800
found the money for the youth program.

5784
04:13:52,800 --> 04:13:54,960
We still have to find money well for

5785
04:13:54,960 --> 04:13:59,120
multiple things. But I'm saying that that this money going back into the

5786
04:13:59,120 --> 04:14:01,040
general fund can support the senior

5787
04:14:01,040 --> 04:14:03,680
program and the rest of the money can go

5788
04:14:03,680 --> 04:14:06,560
back into the general fund to support

5789
04:14:06,560 --> 04:14:12,640
other things is what I'm saying. We and and I think it's it's being that we

5790
04:14:12,640 --> 04:14:15,840
did invest $3 million into the into the

5791
04:14:15,840 --> 04:14:18,960
golf course is because it's supposed to

5792
04:14:18,960 --> 04:14:23,680
generate revenue for the city. This is city revenue money that we that

5793
04:14:23,680 --> 04:14:27,600
is all is being earmarked for things and

5794
04:14:27,600 --> 04:14:29,359
it's acting like it's restricted in this

5795
04:14:29,359 --> 04:14:31,120
lock box. But there is no lock box for

5796
04:14:31,120 --> 04:14:32,720
this money. This is city money and we

5797
04:14:32,720 --> 04:14:34,479
should have access to it and put it into

5798
04:14:34,479 --> 04:14:38,319
our budget as we see fit. It is not

5799
04:14:38,319 --> 04:14:40,239
guaranteed though. That's why it's on

5800
04:14:40,239 --> 04:14:42,159
>> my my number of account.

5801
04:14:42,159 --> 04:14:45,520
>> Sure. My my number 150,000 is based on

5802
04:14:45,520 --> 04:14:47,199
the last two years of reporting where

5803
04:14:47,199 --> 04:14:50,479
one was 213 213,000 and then last year

5804
04:14:50,479 --> 04:14:53,199
it was 160,000. So that's how I justify

5805
04:14:53,199 --> 04:14:54,880
my 150,000.

5806
04:14:54,880 --> 04:14:56,720
>> What what Navy is doing over the year is

5807
04:14:56,720 --> 04:14:58,880
the surplus. They hold on to the surplus

5808
04:14:58,880 --> 04:15:00,560
to help with their project within the

5809
04:15:00,560 --> 04:15:02,960
golf course. So it's more of money there

5810
04:15:02,960 --> 04:15:04,960
to kind of like carry them on into doing

5811
04:15:04,960 --> 04:15:06,239
different projects.

5812
04:15:06,239 --> 04:15:07,439
>> But um

5813
04:15:07,439 --> 04:15:08,399
>> I know what they

5814
04:15:08,399 --> 04:15:10,880
>> it's uh it can be used for any other

5815
04:15:10,880 --> 04:15:11,680
purpose.

5816
04:15:11,680 --> 04:15:14,000
>> Right. And that's what I'm saying is

5817
04:15:14,000 --> 04:15:14,239
saying

5818
04:15:14,239 --> 04:15:16,080
>> and what I'm saying

5819
04:15:16,080 --> 04:15:17,840
>> and I'm saying being that we correct

5820
04:15:17,840 --> 04:15:20,239
being that we just invested $3 million

5821
04:15:20,239 --> 04:15:23,680
in that into that golf course $150,000

5822
04:15:23,680 --> 04:15:25,359
coming back into city revenue should not

5823
04:15:25,359 --> 04:15:28,000
be a problem. All right. I'm done.

5824
04:15:28,000 --> 04:15:31,920
>> Okay. I guess I want to say that again.

5825
04:15:31,920 --> 04:15:34,880
The reason we put $3 million into the

5826
04:15:34,880 --> 04:15:38,080
golf course was because

5827
04:15:38,080 --> 04:15:40,159
the golf course is one of the true

5828
04:15:40,159 --> 04:15:43,760
revenue drivers. It makes money. Every

5829
04:15:43,760 --> 04:15:46,560
year we increase the fees that we charge

5830
04:15:46,560 --> 04:15:48,880
to people who come and use the golf

5831
04:15:48,880 --> 04:15:50,640
course. And I also want to always say

5832
04:15:50,640 --> 04:15:52,399
I'm not a golfer. I don't use the golf

5833
04:15:52,399 --> 04:15:55,120
course, but I am chair of Elmer.

5834
04:15:55,120 --> 04:15:57,680
So, I do look at all the parks and the

5835
04:15:57,680 --> 04:16:01,279
golf course in my work as a city council

5836
04:16:01,279 --> 04:16:03,600
person. So, what I've learned over the

5837
04:16:03,600 --> 04:16:06,720
years, it is a revenue driver. If I just

5838
04:16:06,720 --> 04:16:10,399
want to remind you, if we didn't put

5839
04:16:10,399 --> 04:16:12,720
that revenue back into the golf course,

5840
04:16:12,720 --> 04:16:14,880
we would have to find that we would have

5841
04:16:14,880 --> 04:16:18,080
to find money to pay the expenses for

5842
04:16:18,080 --> 04:16:20,080
all the maintenance and improvements to

5843
04:16:20,080 --> 04:16:22,239
the golf course every year. So, the golf

5844
04:16:22,239 --> 04:16:24,640
course is selfgenerating.

5845
04:16:24,640 --> 04:16:28,800
what it then uses to maintain its golf

5846
04:16:28,800 --> 04:16:31,920
course. Our golf course is widely

5847
04:16:31,920 --> 04:16:34,399
recognized throughout the Capitol region

5848
04:16:34,399 --> 04:16:36,319
from people who are members of like

5849
04:16:36,319 --> 04:16:38,720
private clubs where they play a zillion

5850
04:16:38,720 --> 04:16:41,040
dollars to be in these private clubs as

5851
04:16:41,040 --> 04:16:42,960
one of the jewels of the city of

5852
04:16:42,960 --> 04:16:45,520
Skenctity where we're we're recognized

5853
04:16:45,520 --> 04:16:47,920
because of things like Central Park and

5854
04:16:47,920 --> 04:16:50,000
how fabulous all the options at Central

5855
04:16:50,000 --> 04:16:52,399
Park are, how fabulous our golf course

5856
04:16:52,399 --> 04:16:56,080
is. So, I would argue against using golf

5857
04:16:56,080 --> 04:16:58,720
money for anything but the continued

5858
04:16:58,720 --> 04:17:00,479
maintenance and improvements of the golf

5859
04:17:00,479 --> 04:17:02,880
course and the $3 million in ARPA

5860
04:17:02,880 --> 04:17:05,279
funding that we used. I just want to

5861
04:17:05,279 --> 04:17:08,159
remind everybody that for years we've

5862
04:17:08,159 --> 04:17:11,520
had a manual system where they literally

5863
04:17:11,520 --> 04:17:15,520
had to go around and turn spiggots in

5864
04:17:15,520 --> 04:17:20,080
order to irrigate the golf course. when

5865
04:17:20,080 --> 04:17:22,720
the $3 million paid for a

5866
04:17:22,720 --> 04:17:25,359
state-of-the-art irrigation system that

5867
04:17:25,359 --> 04:17:27,920
now like many things in our lives can be

5868
04:17:27,920 --> 04:17:30,960
controlled even by a phone um to

5869
04:17:30,960 --> 04:17:32,960
irrigate our system. Otherwise, you'd

5870
04:17:32,960 --> 04:17:35,359
have staffing, you'd have all sorts of

5871
04:17:35,359 --> 04:17:37,040
other things that you would have to do

5872
04:17:37,040 --> 04:17:39,840
in order to maintain the pristine nature

5873
04:17:39,840 --> 04:17:41,840
of the golf course for which we also

5874
04:17:41,840 --> 04:17:44,560
charge residents and non-residents to

5875
04:17:44,560 --> 04:17:48,239
play golf. Um so I would not touch and

5876
04:17:48,239 --> 04:17:49,840
we already use

5877
04:17:49,840 --> 04:17:53,120
money for other unless I'm reading this

5878
04:17:53,120 --> 04:17:54,800
wrong or have been reading it wrong for

5879
04:17:54,800 --> 04:17:58,479
five and a half years. Um, we use money

5880
04:17:58,479 --> 04:18:01,439
from the golf course into other funds.

5881
04:18:01,439 --> 04:18:03,279
>> Yeah, but you are reading wrong because

5882
04:18:03,279 --> 04:18:06,560
we use money for other other funds.

5883
04:18:06,560 --> 04:18:09,120
>> Because we using water, right? So,

5884
04:18:09,120 --> 04:18:13,199
>> as Mr. Canow one to talk, please.

5885
04:18:13,199 --> 04:18:15,920
>> Yes, I was finishing my

5886
04:18:15,920 --> 04:18:17,920
>> I thought she was responding to me, so I

5887
04:18:17,920 --> 04:18:20,960
was responding to her. Mr. is English

5888
04:18:20,960 --> 04:18:23,760
before before you um cooperation

5889
04:18:23,760 --> 04:18:32,640
council. Let me let me go back into the golf and you're saying that um

5890
04:18:32,640 --> 04:18:37,279
the golf course is generating revenue.

5891
04:18:37,279 --> 04:18:40,080
The golf board is generating enough

5892
04:18:40,080 --> 04:18:43,439
revenue to sustain themselves.

5893
04:18:43,439 --> 04:18:44,000
>> I said

5894
04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:45,600
>> they're not generating revenue to bring

5895
04:18:45,600 --> 04:18:46,960
into the general fund.

5896
04:18:46,960 --> 04:18:48,720
>> I I think I said that. No. Let me

5897
04:18:48,720 --> 04:18:51,040
clarify self- sustaining.

5898
04:18:51,040 --> 04:18:53,920
>> So they are not they are not a what

5899
04:18:53,920 --> 04:18:55,840
we're trying to say. Okay, we generate

5900
04:18:55,840 --> 04:18:57,279
millions of dollars in revenue and we're

5901
04:18:57,279 --> 04:18:59,920
putting it in the DMR fund. They are

5902
04:18:59,920 --> 04:19:02,080
generating enough money to keep them

5903
04:19:02,080 --> 04:19:03,199
afloat.

5904
04:19:03,199 --> 04:19:05,359
>> Yes. I was wrong with my last.

5905
04:19:05,359 --> 04:19:07,120
>> So I Yes. So I want to clarify that

5906
04:19:07,120 --> 04:19:09,520
because if you look at the revenue here,

5907
04:19:09,520 --> 04:19:10,960
there's nothing else coming into the

5908
04:19:10,960 --> 04:19:13,840
general fund to say that we make 2002

5909
04:19:13,840 --> 04:19:16,560
200,000 $300,000 and we're putting that

5910
04:19:16,560 --> 04:19:18,399
into general fund and then we can say oh

5911
04:19:18,399 --> 04:19:21,040
there's a surplus and there goes fund

5912
04:19:21,040 --> 04:19:23,520
take this $250,000.

5913
04:19:23,520 --> 04:19:27,680
This course is sustaining itself based

5914
04:19:27,680 --> 04:19:30,560
on expenditure and revenue. whatever

5915
04:19:30,560 --> 04:19:33,760
surplus they rece get every year remain

5916
04:19:33,760 --> 04:19:35,359
to that department to help them with

5917
04:19:35,359 --> 04:19:38,000
projects. So they they break they break

5918
04:19:38,000 --> 04:19:40,000
even on this project on this golf

5919
04:19:40,000 --> 04:19:40,560
course,

5920
04:19:40,560 --> 04:19:40,880
>> right?

5921
04:19:40,880 --> 04:19:43,120
>> So there's no excessive revenue. So when

5922
04:19:43,120 --> 04:19:45,920
we use the term that they're generating

5923
04:19:45,920 --> 04:19:48,159
revenue, they're generating revenue from

5924
04:19:48,159 --> 04:19:49,840
being paid themselves. Okay,

5925
04:19:49,840 --> 04:19:51,840
>> I want to clarify that because that may

5926
04:19:51,840 --> 04:19:53,680
be a perception out there that well the

5927
04:19:53,680 --> 04:19:55,040
golf course are bringing in millions of

5928
04:19:55,040 --> 04:19:56,640
dollars and they are bringing in money

5929
04:19:56,640 --> 04:19:57,600
to help themselves

5930
04:19:57,600 --> 04:20:00,560
>> and the money that I'm talking about

5931
04:20:00,560 --> 04:20:02,479
>> the money that I'm ident that I have

5932
04:20:02,479 --> 04:20:04,880
identified isn't even money to keep them

5933
04:20:04,880 --> 04:20:06,880
up and running. That's money that they

5934
04:20:06,880 --> 04:20:09,040
use for future capital projects. And I'm

5935
04:20:09,040 --> 04:20:10,479
saying in in the budget that we're

5936
04:20:10,479 --> 04:20:12,640
facing after investing $3 million,

5937
04:20:12,640 --> 04:20:14,479
that's money that can be put to better

5938
04:20:14,479 --> 04:20:16,080
use than

5939
04:20:16,080 --> 04:20:18,880
>> Okay. We're going to have to uh we I

5940
04:20:18,880 --> 04:20:21,120
mean finance department and legal are

5941
04:20:21,120 --> 04:20:23,359
going to have to see whether that's

5942
04:20:23,359 --> 04:20:26,159
legally poss legally possible, you know,

5943
04:20:26,159 --> 04:20:29,040
pursuing the code and uh as well as how

5944
04:20:29,040 --> 04:20:32,000
that fund was created fiscally.

5945
04:20:32,000 --> 04:20:36,080
>> Yes, please. It's legal.

5946
04:20:36,080 --> 04:20:37,439
>> So, Mr.

5947
04:20:37,439 --> 04:20:39,840
>> Yes, please. And and so I agree with

5948
04:20:39,840 --> 04:20:41,279
that because part of the reason that

5949
04:20:41,279 --> 04:20:44,720
you're seeing water, sewer, and golf, um

5950
04:20:44,720 --> 04:20:47,520
I don't know all the in this particular

5951
04:20:47,520 --> 04:20:48,720
legislation, but the reason they're

5952
04:20:48,720 --> 04:20:51,520
broken out in the budget in the um

5953
04:20:51,520 --> 04:20:52,960
budget like that is you're supposed to

5954
04:20:52,960 --> 04:20:54,319
be able to sustain yourself. So you're

5955
04:20:54,319 --> 04:20:56,239
supposed to whatever you take in is what

5956
04:20:56,239 --> 04:20:58,960
you need to pay out to do that. So I

5957
04:20:58,960 --> 04:21:02,399
don't know the um

5958
04:21:02,399 --> 04:21:04,800
ordinance that was made for golf fund

5959
04:21:04,800 --> 04:21:07,279
but it may speak specifically to that to

5960
04:21:07,279 --> 04:21:08,880
say that. So that's what they're going

5961
04:21:08,880 --> 04:21:11,359
to look to and that's why which is also

5962
04:21:11,359 --> 04:21:13,120
why I'm just throwing here now. We

5963
04:21:13,120 --> 04:21:14,239
should really be doing the same with

5964
04:21:14,239 --> 04:21:15,840
waste because we're only supposed to

5965
04:21:15,840 --> 04:21:18,560
spend on waste when we came in. So that

5966
04:21:18,560 --> 04:21:20,479
is why that is like that. So there may

5967
04:21:20,479 --> 04:21:24,399
be there may be um the organizing

5968
04:21:24,399 --> 04:21:26,080
document for the for the golf course

5969
04:21:26,080 --> 04:21:28,080
that says we can't do that. But I think

5970
04:21:28,080 --> 04:21:30,319
we have to look at it and make sure

5971
04:21:30,319 --> 04:21:31,840
>> that's why the corporation council has

5972
04:21:31,840 --> 04:21:34,000
been they will look into it and get back

5973
04:21:34,000 --> 04:21:37,040
to us in terms of can we do this

5974
04:21:37,040 --> 04:21:38,000
>> can we not do it

5975
04:21:38,000 --> 04:21:44,080
>> but I guess my point is that if there's documents saying that we

5976
04:21:44,080 --> 04:21:47,439
can't do that we can certainly overturn

5977
04:21:47,439 --> 04:21:49,439
that and do that as this council is what

5978
04:21:49,439 --> 04:21:51,359
I'm saying that's within our perview to

5979
04:21:51,359 --> 04:21:53,600
do that

5980
04:21:53,600 --> 04:21:54,880
>> I don't know the answer to that

5981
04:21:54,880 --> 04:21:58,399
>> I don't Yes.

5982
04:21:58,399 --> 04:22:01,120
Listen after that. I'm not I'm not going

5983
04:22:01,120 --> 04:22:04,239
to be able to limitation. We can't do

5984
04:22:04,239 --> 04:22:06,560
that.

5985
04:22:06,560 --> 04:22:07,120
>> This

5986
04:22:07,120 --> 04:22:08,000
>> Yes. Absolutely.

5987
04:22:08,000 --> 04:22:09,680
>> No, no, no. Because importantly things

5988
04:22:09,680 --> 04:22:11,600
take from appearance and takes all that

5989
04:22:11,600 --> 04:22:12,080
stuff.

5990
04:22:12,080 --> 04:22:15,600
>> Yeah. Any any other expenditure you have

5991
04:22:15,600 --> 04:22:16,560
for this? I'm

5992
04:22:16,560 --> 04:22:19,600
>> I'm I'm just going to do revenue.

5993
04:22:19,600 --> 04:22:22,399
Yeah. I'm done with revenue. That's it.

5994
04:22:22,399 --> 04:22:27,120
Uh please uh the email from uh Oh, I get

5995
04:22:27,120 --> 04:22:29,439
the email. I explain it to yourself.

5996
04:22:29,439 --> 04:22:31,439
>> Oh, so it doesn't down.

5997
04:22:31,439 --> 04:22:33,680
>> Yeah, I just just in to just in time. I

5998
04:22:33,680 --> 04:22:35,199
didn't to respect time, I didn't want

5999
04:22:35,199 --> 04:22:37,120
to. So, we I'll just be really quick and

6000
04:22:37,120 --> 04:22:38,720
I said that I was saying that we should

6001
04:22:38,720 --> 04:22:43,439
do a 3% raise across for all management.

6002
04:22:43,439 --> 04:22:45,600
Um

6003
04:22:45,600 --> 04:22:49,199
and we should not have any uh stipens.

6004
04:22:49,199 --> 04:22:51,760
And I think that we should have uh a

6005
04:22:51,760 --> 04:22:54,319
create a citywide $10,000 pot of money

6006
04:22:54,319 --> 04:22:57,760
for people when they are in at our most

6007
04:22:57,760 --> 04:22:59,840
um extreme circumstances where they have

6008
04:22:59,840 --> 04:23:02,239
to stay late or come in. That that money

6009
04:23:02,239 --> 04:23:04,720
should be drawn out of that $10,000 pot

6010
04:23:04,720 --> 04:23:07,760
and that should be for um essentially

6011
04:23:07,760 --> 04:23:09,520
citywide. Everyone else that's

6012
04:23:09,520 --> 04:23:12,000
non-contractual needs to you know kind

6013
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:14,239
of manage their manage their time and

6014
04:23:14,239 --> 04:23:16,319
flex their time. Um, but I don't agree

6015
04:23:16,319 --> 04:23:18,159
with not giving any raises which why I'm

6016
04:23:18,159 --> 04:23:20,159
saying I think the fairest thing to do

6017
04:23:20,159 --> 04:23:22,960
would be a 3% flat raise because that's

6018
04:23:22,960 --> 04:23:25,600
really to stay afront of inflation and

6019
04:23:25,600 --> 04:23:26,960
the way things are going right now. If

6020
04:23:26,960 --> 04:23:29,279
we don't do that it wouldn't be it would

6021
04:23:29,279 --> 04:23:31,359
almost be like a pay reduction because

6022
04:23:31,359 --> 04:23:33,600
of the where inflation is right now that

6023
04:23:33,600 --> 04:23:36,239
3% is is

6024
04:23:36,239 --> 04:23:37,279
three things you have here. Could you

6025
04:23:37,279 --> 04:23:40,640
please go one by one a little um capture

6026
04:23:40,640 --> 04:23:44,319
talk about um um stipens?

6027
04:23:44,319 --> 04:23:46,319
>> Yeah. So what so in the email what I

6028
04:23:46,319 --> 04:23:49,439
said is that we have so if you look

6029
04:23:49,439 --> 04:23:51,439
through this didn't need an exact budget

6030
04:23:51,439 --> 04:23:53,680
line because it's across departments

6031
04:23:53,680 --> 04:23:55,279
that and there's different raises where

6032
04:23:55,279 --> 04:23:58,479
there's 8% 12% for varying reasons that

6033
04:23:58,479 --> 04:23:59,680
we all heard.

6034
04:23:59,680 --> 04:24:00,560
>> What I'm saying is that

6035
04:24:00,560 --> 04:24:02,399
non-contractctional meaning that we are

6036
04:24:02,399 --> 04:24:04,640
not contractually obligated to give

6037
04:24:04,640 --> 04:24:07,600
anyone more than 3%. Then everyone

6038
04:24:07,600 --> 04:24:11,520
across should get a 3% raise. Um, so

6039
04:24:11,520 --> 04:24:13,199
everyone gets, you know, the same thing

6040
04:24:13,199 --> 04:24:15,840
that's that we're that we're allowed to

6041
04:24:15,840 --> 04:24:19,199
do and and

6042
04:24:19,199 --> 04:24:22,159
so that should uh increase

6043
04:24:22,159 --> 04:24:25,279
of of revenue right there and as well or

6044
04:24:25,279 --> 04:24:27,600
that should uh decrease expenditures I

6045
04:24:27,600 --> 04:24:31,680
should say and also um the stipens and

6046
04:24:31,680 --> 04:24:33,199
out of grade paid anything that's

6047
04:24:33,199 --> 04:24:35,439
non-contractual I think needs to come

6048
04:24:35,439 --> 04:24:37,120
back in as well.

6049
04:24:37,120 --> 04:24:38,159
>> Yeah, that's why I wanted to make sure

6050
04:24:38,159 --> 04:24:39,520
we capture that. So you want to have

6051
04:24:39,520 --> 04:24:41,920
slight if it's not contractual you want

6052
04:24:41,920 --> 04:24:42,960
to remove.

6053
04:24:42,960 --> 04:24:44,080
>> Yes.

6054
04:24:44,080 --> 04:24:46,560
>> And then have a single which I was

6055
04:24:46,560 --> 04:24:47,840
>> the two stipens something

6056
04:24:47,840 --> 04:24:51,279
>> and like I agreed anything like a stipen

6057
04:24:51,279 --> 04:24:52,800
or you're going to be here later. I

6058
04:24:52,800 --> 04:24:54,399
think that when I was looking through

6059
04:24:54,399 --> 04:24:56,159
the budget they're I I know that they're

6060
04:24:56,159 --> 04:24:58,399
not the exact same thing but they're but

6061
04:24:58,399 --> 04:25:00,640
they're described differently but I

6062
04:25:00,640 --> 04:25:02,479
think they're relatively similar. And

6063
04:25:02,479 --> 04:25:04,880
then you're asking to create a

6064
04:25:04,880 --> 04:25:05,680
>> a single

6065
04:25:05,680 --> 04:25:08,800
>> single line for maybe 10,000 and yeah

6066
04:25:08,800 --> 04:25:11,120
for the for the and maybe it needs to be

6067
04:25:11,120 --> 04:25:12,560
a little more than that but just for

6068
04:25:12,560 --> 04:25:14,880
those people who like this is an actual

6069
04:25:14,880 --> 04:25:17,520
emergency. You have to come in here to

6070
04:25:17,520 --> 04:25:19,520
save the city. So you put your cape on

6071
04:25:19,520 --> 04:25:21,120
at 2:00 in the morning. Yeah, we need to

6072
04:25:21,120 --> 04:25:22,399
have some money there for that. Like it

6073
04:25:22,399 --> 04:25:23,680
should only happen in those very extreme

6074
04:25:23,680 --> 04:25:24,080
certain.

6075
04:25:24,080 --> 04:25:25,040
>> I want to make sure you know that

6076
04:25:25,040 --> 04:25:26,319
everything is captured.

6077
04:25:26,319 --> 04:25:28,479
>> I appreciate that. They get documented

6078
04:25:28,479 --> 04:25:32,560
into our into our proposal for

6079
04:25:32,560 --> 04:25:35,920
when it comes to out of grade pay um and

6080
04:25:35,920 --> 04:25:37,920
people have job descriptions and they do

6081
04:25:37,920 --> 04:25:40,080
things outside of their pay outside of

6082
04:25:40,080 --> 04:25:42,560
the job descriptions. Don't we have that

6083
04:25:42,560 --> 04:25:44,560
site?

6084
04:25:44,560 --> 04:25:45,600
being paid for that when they're doing

6085
04:25:45,600 --> 04:25:48,399
things

6086
04:25:48,399 --> 04:25:51,279
title pays

6087
04:25:51,279 --> 04:25:52,640
>> that's contractual right

6088
04:25:52,640 --> 04:25:55,600
>> that's for you know title pay is for you

6089
04:25:55,600 --> 04:25:58,960
know for contract employee I mean you

6090
04:25:58,960 --> 04:26:02,159
know the the union denies employees you

6091
04:26:02,159 --> 04:26:03,760
know they have certain job functions

6092
04:26:03,760 --> 04:26:05,840
assigned to their title they're asked to

6093
04:26:05,840 --> 04:26:07,600
perform they can

6094
04:26:07,600 --> 04:26:09,520
>> they can perform those functions but by

6095
04:26:09,520 --> 04:26:11,600
the same token they can file a brief and

6096
04:26:11,600 --> 04:26:15,040
has to be compensated for additional

6097
04:26:15,040 --> 04:26:16,880
down their titles

6098
04:26:16,880 --> 04:26:19,199
>> and and that's contractual employees.

6099
04:26:19,199 --> 04:26:20,159
Correct.

6100
04:26:20,159 --> 04:26:21,680
>> Right. That's what I said.

6101
04:26:21,680 --> 04:26:23,680
>> What I mean when you speak contractually

6102
04:26:23,680 --> 04:26:27,279
meaning the CSEAN

6103
04:26:27,279 --> 04:26:31,520
those unionized employees. Yes. if

6104
04:26:31,520 --> 04:26:33,279
there's always if they're being asked to

6105
04:26:33,279 --> 04:26:36,479
go outside to do work um and they have

6106
04:26:36,479 --> 04:26:39,279
to be compensated as that item had to

6107
04:26:39,279 --> 04:26:41,600
work or there's a grievance

6108
04:26:41,600 --> 04:26:44,319
>> um so as they should and that's in their

6109
04:26:44,319 --> 04:26:45,760
contract is what I'm saying.

6110
04:26:45,760 --> 04:26:49,040
>> So this would not uh talk about anything

6111
04:26:49,040 --> 04:26:50,560
that's in their contract. I understand

6112
04:26:50,560 --> 04:26:51,840
that we have to work within the

6113
04:26:51,840 --> 04:26:52,960
parameters of contract.

6114
04:26:52,960 --> 04:26:55,760
>> So I mean what you're looking for is

6115
04:26:55,760 --> 04:26:58,080
management but you get

6116
04:26:58,080 --> 04:27:00,399
>> outside of the contractual agreement.

6117
04:27:00,399 --> 04:27:03,830
Yes, that's

6118
04:27:03,840 --> 04:27:04,159
a

6119
04:27:04,159 --> 04:27:06,560
>> I refer to them as non-contractual staff

6120
04:27:06,560 --> 04:27:08,640
and I'm saying outside of the agreement

6121
04:27:08,640 --> 04:27:11,840
employees instead of having these

6122
04:27:11,840 --> 04:27:14,159
stipens they would discuss you would

6123
04:27:14,159 --> 04:27:17,040
have just this pool of money as stipened

6124
04:27:17,040 --> 04:27:18,560
or

6125
04:27:18,560 --> 04:27:22,070
for for

6126
04:27:22,080 --> 04:27:24,399
hours beyond what their regular work

6127
04:27:24,399 --> 04:27:26,960
hours are. I mean that you know

6128
04:27:26,960 --> 04:27:28,960
>> be mindful that you don't get into a

6129
04:27:28,960 --> 04:27:32,239
position where it's just a undefined

6130
04:27:32,239 --> 04:27:34,399
amount of money and needs to pay you

6131
04:27:34,399 --> 04:27:37,600
know pay certain individuals and not pay

6132
04:27:37,600 --> 04:27:40,479
other individuals you know has to be

6133
04:27:40,479 --> 04:27:43,439
parameters and how it's

6134
04:27:43,439 --> 04:27:46,560
so yeah so so to be really clear what

6135
04:27:46,560 --> 04:27:48,000
I'm saying is this is that if you go

6136
04:27:48,000 --> 04:27:49,279
through the budget you go to certain

6137
04:27:49,279 --> 04:27:51,840
departments you have and again let's

6138
04:27:51,840 --> 04:27:54,720
exclude our union works okay we're not

6139
04:27:54,720 --> 04:27:55,920
talking about them. That's why I put

6140
04:27:55,920 --> 04:28:00,800
that language in in the email. But what you have is that uh manager in this

6141
04:28:00,800 --> 04:28:02,720
department

6142
04:28:02,720 --> 04:28:08,319
um of 8% raise manager over here 12%

6143
04:28:08,319 --> 04:28:10,800
raise and then a whole bunch of 3%

6144
04:28:10,800 --> 04:28:13,840
raises and then an 8% raise. I

6145
04:28:13,840 --> 04:28:15,040
completely understand why it's

6146
04:28:15,040 --> 04:28:16,560
happening. I understand and heard the

6147
04:28:16,560 --> 04:28:18,239
reasons why it's going like that. What

6148
04:28:18,239 --> 04:28:19,760
I'm saying is that in this situation

6149
04:28:19,760 --> 04:28:21,680
that we're that we're in, give everyone

6150
04:28:21,680 --> 04:28:24,880
the flat 3% raise to make sure that we

6151
04:28:24,880 --> 04:28:27,520
uh are accounting for their uh inflation

6152
04:28:27,520 --> 04:28:30,720
and cost of living rise and you also

6153
04:28:30,720 --> 04:28:33,840
have a stipen in this department for

6154
04:28:33,840 --> 04:28:36,640
10,000 8,000 over here for this

6155
04:28:36,640 --> 04:28:41,040
department. What I'm saying is that you take that number and shrink it to

6156
04:28:41,040 --> 04:28:43,520
the very extreme situations where we

6157
04:28:43,520 --> 04:28:45,199
need people and we could talk about what

6158
04:28:45,199 --> 04:28:46,960
that number is. And I think that we have

6159
04:28:46,960 --> 04:28:49,760
a one line for that because we have some

6160
04:28:49,760 --> 04:28:51,120
departments that have statements for

6161
04:28:51,120 --> 04:28:53,199
$8,000. Some departments that have no

6162
04:28:53,199 --> 04:28:55,199
statements, some managers requesting a

6163
04:28:55,199 --> 04:28:58,960
12% raise, some managers uh requesting a

6164
04:28:58,960 --> 04:29:01,439
3% raise. So So what I'm saying instead,

6165
04:29:01,439 --> 04:29:04,159
and I know Mr. Mut was saying, you know,

6166
04:29:04,159 --> 04:29:06,560
no raises right now, you know, based on

6167
04:29:06,560 --> 04:29:08,880
the situation we're in, and I understand

6168
04:29:08,880 --> 04:29:10,880
his logic. I'm saying that I'm willing

6169
04:29:10,880 --> 04:29:13,120
to say we need to give people a raise so

6170
04:29:13,120 --> 04:29:15,920
quickly so they can have their their in

6171
04:29:15,920 --> 04:29:17,600
cost of living increase raised but

6172
04:29:17,600 --> 04:29:19,840
that's it. Just for some input reason

6173
04:29:19,840 --> 04:29:22,159
why some reason increase their certain

6174
04:29:22,159 --> 04:29:24,319
percentage because there's union members

6175
04:29:24,319 --> 04:29:25,680
that are making more than

6176
04:29:25,680 --> 04:29:29,040
>> I understand no individuals probably not

6177
04:29:29,040 --> 04:29:31,680
going to stay with the city member on

6178
04:29:31,680 --> 04:29:35,359
that is making more I I understand that

6179
04:29:35,359 --> 04:29:38,399
but this is what we this is what's in

6180
04:29:38,399 --> 04:29:41,920
our right now if I could have go into

6181
04:29:41,920 --> 04:29:44,880
union negotiations and do it then maybe

6182
04:29:44,880 --> 04:29:46,239
but this right now we're not working

6183
04:29:46,239 --> 04:29:48,080
with that. That's why when we always

6184
04:29:48,080 --> 04:29:50,159
identify, oh, why is this person getting

6185
04:29:50,159 --> 04:29:51,600
that? They say, oh, it's contractual. We

6186
04:29:51,600 --> 04:29:53,199
go, okay, moving on. Cuz we understand

6187
04:29:53,199 --> 04:29:54,880
that that right now is not within our

6188
04:29:54,880 --> 04:29:56,319
curve. That's been a negotiated

6189
04:29:56,319 --> 04:29:58,159
contract. We can't go back in and do

6190
04:29:58,159 --> 04:30:00,720
that. What I'm saying is that instead of

6191
04:30:00,720 --> 04:30:02,880
saying no one gets a raise, everyone

6192
04:30:02,880 --> 04:30:05,439
gets the same raise at 3% due to the

6193
04:30:05,439 --> 04:30:07,279
place that we're in. That's what I'm

6194
04:30:07,279 --> 04:30:10,159
saying.

6195
04:30:10,159 --> 04:30:13,040
Without the discretion of the mayor, I

6196
04:30:13,040 --> 04:30:15,600
was distributed.

6197
04:30:15,600 --> 04:30:16,880
3% raise across.

6198
04:30:16,880 --> 04:30:18,080
>> No, no, no. I'm talking about the

6199
04:30:18,080 --> 04:30:20,239
10,000, you know, the pool of money. How

6200
04:30:20,239 --> 04:30:21,199
would that be?

6201
04:30:21,199 --> 04:30:22,319
>> Well, I think that there's going to

6202
04:30:22,319 --> 04:30:23,840
there's there's some variables there. I

6203
04:30:23,840 --> 04:30:25,680
said 10,000. Maybe it's going to be

6204
04:30:25,680 --> 04:30:28,000
more, right? And maybe the mayor when

6205
04:30:28,000 --> 04:30:29,680
the mayor maybe the mayor works with us

6206
04:30:29,680 --> 04:30:32,720
and say, well, this position,

6207
04:30:32,720 --> 04:30:35,520
you know, is the 911. Oh my goodness.

6208
04:30:35,520 --> 04:30:37,439
Coming in for this position, but this

6209
04:30:37,439 --> 04:30:39,359
position people just usually come and

6210
04:30:39,359 --> 04:30:40,800
present to city council. So if you're

6211
04:30:40,800 --> 04:30:42,560
just coming to present to city council

6212
04:30:42,560 --> 04:30:44,319
in that case then you can flex your time

6213
04:30:44,319 --> 04:30:46,720
the next day but then you know then make

6214
04:30:46,720 --> 04:30:48,720
sure that you know then it would be a

6215
04:30:48,720 --> 04:30:51,840
operational thing but I'm just not okay

6216
04:30:51,840 --> 04:30:54,000
with not giving anybody any risks.

6217
04:30:54,000 --> 04:30:55,520
>> I I just want to say when my son-in-law

6218
04:30:55,520 --> 04:30:57,359
work for those I mean they go out on any

6219
04:30:57,359 --> 04:30:59,520
fire and that goes in there and you know

6220
04:30:59,520 --> 04:31:01,199
to expect it like the mayor said the

6221
04:31:01,199 --> 04:31:02,880
other night you know I want somebody

6222
04:31:02,880 --> 04:31:04,479
who's going to get get up put their coat

6223
04:31:04,479 --> 04:31:06,880
on. We have a water main break 2 3 in

6224
04:31:06,880 --> 04:31:08,080
the morning. So there are certain

6225
04:31:08,080 --> 04:31:10,159
departments that I I think deserve

6226
04:31:10,159 --> 04:31:11,120
respitement.

6227
04:31:11,120 --> 04:31:14,159
>> Um and again under those guidelines I

6228
04:31:14,159 --> 04:31:16,880
mean I can't take away city clerks

6229
04:31:16,880 --> 04:31:19,760
because um I mean she does they do go

6230
04:31:19,760 --> 04:31:22,640
above and beyond uh 24 hours a day when

6231
04:31:22,640 --> 04:31:25,359
needed um because of New York state laws

6232
04:31:25,359 --> 04:31:27,760
but has has to be there. But those those

6233
04:31:27,760 --> 04:31:30,159
I think you'll need to remain in those

6234
04:31:30,159 --> 04:31:32,159
departments. But that's just me. We'll

6235
04:31:32,159 --> 04:31:34,960
talk about it. Yeah, that's what it's a

6236
04:31:34,960 --> 04:31:36,720
proposal from everyone. That's what

6237
04:31:36,720 --> 04:31:40,319
we're getting here. So, I'm going to Mr.

6238
04:31:40,319 --> 04:31:43,279
William sent his recommendation. So, can

6239
04:31:43,279 --> 04:31:44,800
you please take that email and

6240
04:31:44,800 --> 04:31:47,199
incorporate it into the proposal?

6241
04:31:47,199 --> 04:31:51,840
>> 5.2. You're saying 10K for

6242
04:31:51,840 --> 04:31:54,000
>> 10K is just a number that's out there.

6243
04:31:54,000 --> 04:31:57,120
It's extremely

6244
04:31:57,120 --> 04:32:00,080
between each fund. We imagine like

6245
04:32:00,080 --> 04:32:02,239
water, sewer, golf

6246
04:32:02,239 --> 04:32:04,159
>> in general. So you would have to have

6247
04:32:04,159 --> 04:32:06,960
thought maybe I don't know 10 10 10

6248
04:32:06,960 --> 04:32:09,120
>> So maybe the number would be this number

6249
04:32:09,120 --> 04:32:10,479
you're just saying has to be divided

6250
04:32:10,479 --> 04:32:12,319
across departments, right? That's what

6251
04:32:12,319 --> 04:32:12,960
you're saying.

6252
04:32:12,960 --> 04:32:15,040
>> Depends how many more managements or

6253
04:32:15,040 --> 04:32:18,640
bunch of other I don't know how that

6254
04:32:18,640 --> 04:32:20,880
>> Okay. I I think that would just from

6255
04:32:20,880 --> 04:32:23,040
input if we could look at what disciples

6256
04:32:23,040 --> 04:32:24,960
have been spent

6257
04:32:24,960 --> 04:32:27,279
in previous years the same way we use

6258
04:32:27,279 --> 04:32:29,040
this historical data to make our

6259
04:32:29,040 --> 04:32:30,560
projections now I think that that

6260
04:32:30,560 --> 04:32:34,790
wouldn't be any different here.

6261
04:32:34,800 --> 04:32:38,239
» Yeah, I'm happy with that. So let's just

6262
04:32:38,239 --> 04:32:40,080
back up here. So Mr. William

6263
04:32:40,080 --> 04:32:41,680
recommendation please incorporate that

6264
04:32:41,680 --> 04:32:44,080
into the proposal the council proposal

6265
04:32:44,080 --> 04:32:45,840
and if there's any clarification needed

6266
04:32:45,840 --> 04:32:57,830
we can reach out to Mr. William.

6267
04:32:57,840 --> 04:32:59,120
I'm sorry. I didn't hear you.

6268
04:32:59,120 --> 04:33:00,720
>> So, just so we have better clarification

6269
04:33:00,720 --> 04:33:03,680
how to put this in uh format that we

6270
04:33:03,680 --> 04:33:04,320
understand.

6271
04:33:04,320 --> 04:33:05,119
>> Sure.

6272
04:33:05,119 --> 04:33:07,359
>> You want to take a look at general water

6273
04:33:07,359 --> 04:33:08,879
and have all the statements in the

6274
04:33:08,879 --> 04:33:10,080
general fund

6275
04:33:10,080 --> 04:33:13,520
>> with that in order.

6276
04:33:13,520 --> 04:33:15,199
What I'm looking for is we could look at

6277
04:33:15,199 --> 04:33:17,600
the historical data of like so the last

6278
04:33:17,600 --> 04:33:20,959
3 years what lines have been you know

6279
04:33:20,959 --> 04:33:22,480
how much money have been spent drawn

6280
04:33:22,480 --> 04:33:23,680
down from the stipens and what

6281
04:33:23,680 --> 04:33:25,279
department I think that that will better

6282
04:33:25,279 --> 04:33:27,840
help inform

6283
04:33:27,840 --> 04:33:29,279
what that number should look like and

6284
04:33:29,279 --> 04:33:32,320
how we could do it and and are we and I

6285
04:33:32,320 --> 04:33:34,320
guess yeah we would be required to be

6286
04:33:34,320 --> 04:33:38,629
ahead.

6287
04:33:38,639 --> 04:33:40,240
» Yeah.

6288
04:33:40,240 --> 04:33:42,480
So we have the email from Mr. Williams

6289
04:33:42,480 --> 04:33:44,160
and we're going to add that into the

6290
04:33:44,160 --> 04:33:48,310
proposal.

6291
04:33:48,320 --> 04:33:49,119
» Mr. Williams,

6292
04:33:49,119 --> 04:33:52,959
>> he sent his own secret

6293
04:33:52,959 --> 04:33:53,840
for that.

6294
04:33:53,840 --> 04:33:56,000
>> Okay. I want to make sure that we we

6295
04:33:56,000 --> 04:34:00,400
accept this. Um any emails from anybody

6296
04:34:00,400 --> 04:34:02,320
else?

6297
04:34:02,320 --> 04:34:06,639
No. Um

6298
04:34:06,639 --> 04:34:08,320
I'm thinking I just sent an email in

6299
04:34:08,320 --> 04:34:12,000
terms of the um I think that um

6300
04:34:12,000 --> 04:34:15,439
My my recommendation is to um

6301
04:34:15,439 --> 04:34:18,639
to continue we make a recommendation to

6302
04:34:18,639 --> 04:34:21,920
support the mayor's um support mayor's

6303
04:34:21,920 --> 04:34:25,520
um hiring phrase into 2026

6304
04:34:25,520 --> 04:34:28,639
and also any new hire that is not grant

6305
04:34:28,639 --> 04:34:32,400
funded we should also put that out on

6306
04:34:32,400 --> 04:34:35,760
hold and revisit um into next year. So I

6307
04:34:35,760 --> 04:34:38,160
will make that recommendation

6308
04:34:38,160 --> 04:34:40,160
that whatever victory we have with the

6309
04:34:40,160 --> 04:34:42,959
SL central or grand bonded we should

6310
04:34:42,959 --> 04:34:45,520
continue to hold it hiring for you for

6311
04:34:45,520 --> 04:34:49,279
that as the mayor had this year and into

6312
04:34:49,279 --> 04:34:54,400
next year and all new hires

6313
04:34:54,400 --> 04:34:59,990
funding and not

6314
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:05,920
yes that is my um Uh,

6315
04:35:05,920 --> 04:35:07,359
>> it's all working now.

6316
04:35:07,359 --> 04:35:09,439
>> Yeah. So, I really need to go through

6317
04:35:09,439 --> 04:35:11,680
this. Um, and I'm too tired right now to

6318
04:35:11,680 --> 04:35:13,600
do it, but given the information that we

6319
04:35:13,600 --> 04:35:15,600
learned tonight, I will try to do some

6320
04:35:15,600 --> 04:35:18,080
recommendations before Friday. Um, I'm

6321
04:35:18,080 --> 04:35:19,840
happy to just look at what you all just

6322
04:35:19,840 --> 04:35:23,039
did and I'll, you know, when we get the

6323
04:35:23,039 --> 04:35:25,840
Excel spreadsheet back, um, with the the

6324
04:35:25,840 --> 04:35:28,719
proposed city council changes, I will I

6325
04:35:28,719 --> 04:35:29,279
will look at those.

6326
04:35:29,279 --> 04:35:30,879
>> Are we going to have to revisit it right

6327
04:35:30,879 --> 04:35:32,799
now? No, I'm going to just work off that

6328
04:35:32,799 --> 04:35:35,680
document because I just I just can't I

6329
04:35:35,680 --> 04:35:37,359
know. I just I just I'd have to go

6330
04:35:37,359 --> 04:35:40,000
through my my way of thinking is I'd

6331
04:35:40,000 --> 04:35:41,840
have to like look at everything. So, I

6332
04:35:41,840 --> 04:35:43,119
want to look at everything that you all

6333
04:35:43,119 --> 04:35:45,439
just said. I do want to say that I

6334
04:35:45,439 --> 04:35:47,920
completely agree with you that I want to

6335
04:35:47,920 --> 04:35:49,760
support the hiring freeze. Everything

6336
04:35:49,760 --> 04:35:51,920
that you just said would be things that

6337
04:35:51,920 --> 04:35:53,760
I would support as well for you to learn

6338
04:35:53,760 --> 04:35:55,920
that I think the hiring freeze needs to

6339
04:35:55,920 --> 04:35:57,840
stay in place. I don't think that we

6340
04:35:57,840 --> 04:36:00,080
should be, you know, I think we need to

6341
04:36:00,080 --> 04:36:04,639
not necessarily do the new buyers. Um,

6342
04:36:04,639 --> 04:36:06,959
so I'm I'm right with you on that.

6343
04:36:06,959 --> 04:36:08,320
>> Miss Michael, um, we're not going to

6344
04:36:08,320 --> 04:36:11,199
have a budget Friday. So, can we put a

6345
04:36:11,199 --> 04:36:14,240
um a notice out to capture someday next

6346
04:36:14,240 --> 04:36:16,000
week because I was expecting us to

6347
04:36:16,000 --> 04:36:18,400
present our proposal today so that we

6348
04:36:18,400 --> 04:36:20,400
give it to the commissioner of finance

6349
04:36:20,400 --> 04:36:22,879
so he can present to us Friday from the

6350
04:36:22,879 --> 04:36:25,039
time we arrive at 5:30. We're going to

6351
04:36:25,039 --> 04:36:27,119
start go through all proposals side by

6352
04:36:27,119 --> 04:36:30,719
side and say okay here are we are you in

6353
04:36:30,719 --> 04:36:32,639
agreement with John are you agreement

6354
04:36:32,639 --> 04:36:35,359
with Mr. Toro we can't start debate and

6355
04:36:35,359 --> 04:36:38,000
say you know what I agree with Mr. to

6356
04:36:38,000 --> 04:36:40,000
Don, we're not agreeing with you and

6357
04:36:40,000 --> 04:36:41,119
let's move forward. Now, we're going to

6358
04:36:41,119 --> 04:36:42,879
have to go now. We're going to have to

6359
04:36:42,879 --> 04:36:45,039
go through that the entire budget again

6360
04:36:45,039 --> 04:36:49,840
to for your proposal.

6361
04:36:49,840 --> 04:36:51,199
>> That's not what I'm saying. That's not

6362
04:36:51,199 --> 04:36:53,279
what I'm saying. I'm going to hear what

6363
04:36:53,279 --> 04:36:55,920
all of you all had to say. I'm going to

6364
04:36:55,920 --> 04:36:57,840
just I mean, in other words, what you're

6365
04:36:57,840 --> 04:36:59,199
saying is that they're not they're going

6366
04:36:59,199 --> 04:37:01,279
to have to give us back a document on

6367
04:37:01,279 --> 04:37:05,039
Friday that has what you suggested, what

6368
04:37:05,039 --> 04:37:07,039
>> everyone suggested. All five of us

6369
04:37:07,039 --> 04:37:09,119
except

6370
04:37:09,119 --> 04:37:10,400
>> Okay. I thought we were going to see

6371
04:37:10,400 --> 04:37:13,039
something on Friday incorporating all of

6372
04:37:13,039 --> 04:37:15,600
the I I don't know. I mean, I guess

6373
04:37:15,600 --> 04:37:17,680
>> you could send it in if you needed to.

6374
04:37:17,680 --> 04:37:20,320
>> I I could, but I'm just saying I'm happy

6375
04:37:20,320 --> 04:37:22,240
to review just based on what this

6376
04:37:22,240 --> 04:37:24,719
conversation was tonight. I mean the I I

6377
04:37:24,719 --> 04:37:27,039
really do feel I do support the hiring

6378
04:37:27,039 --> 04:37:28,879
free. I can give you a couple of general

6379
04:37:28,879 --> 04:37:31,279
comments, but I do want to look back at

6380
04:37:31,279 --> 04:37:33,920
everything we just discussed.

6381
04:37:33,920 --> 04:37:35,760
>> I mean, I thought you were making notes.

6382
04:37:35,760 --> 04:37:37,920
>> I was if you want I can go through it

6383
04:37:37,920 --> 04:37:39,520
right now. If you all want to stay, I'll

6384
04:37:39,520 --> 04:37:41,520
just do it right now and we'll get my

6385
04:37:41,520 --> 04:37:43,039
notes that I was taking while I'm

6386
04:37:43,039 --> 04:37:47,439
sitting here. So, let's see. I would um

6387
04:37:47,439 --> 04:37:50,719
if you want to start right on page um

6388
04:37:50,719 --> 04:37:52,320
eight

6389
04:37:52,320 --> 04:37:55,670
um

6390
04:37:55,680 --> 04:37:57,039
I don't think I want to change the

6391
04:37:57,039 --> 04:37:59,359
allowance. Are we still I don't want to

6392
04:37:59,359 --> 04:38:01,119
change the allowance for collected

6393
04:38:01,119 --> 04:38:03,840
uncollected taxes because I think that

6394
04:38:03,840 --> 04:38:05,039
um I'd have to go back through my

6395
04:38:05,039 --> 04:38:06,561
paperwork, but I believe that the

6396
04:38:06,561 --> 04:38:08,000
recommendation from the finance

6397
04:38:08,000 --> 04:38:11,680
commissioner was that that figure 2850

6398
04:38:11,680 --> 04:38:14,000
is probably too low. So, I would stay

6399
04:38:14,000 --> 04:38:20,160
there for that. Um, in terms of the,

6400
04:38:20,160 --> 04:38:22,240
um,

6401
04:38:22,240 --> 04:38:28,629
cannabis one, um,

6402
04:38:28,639 --> 04:38:32,000
I would be okay with, um, I'm look I'm

6403
04:38:32,000 --> 04:38:33,439
trying to I have to go back and look at

6404
04:38:33,439 --> 04:38:36,160
the, um, maybe if you like take some

6405
04:38:36,160 --> 04:38:38,080
maybe start with John's email, both of

6406
04:38:38,080 --> 04:38:40,480
those lines. Excuse me.

6407
04:38:40,480 --> 04:38:42,561
>> It might help just for you to reference.

6408
04:38:42,561 --> 04:38:44,080
>> Well, thanks. I hear what you're saying.

6409
04:38:44,080 --> 04:38:46,160
>> Yeah. Yeah, that was the document I was

6410
04:38:46,160 --> 04:38:48,080
looking at was John's John's document

6411
04:38:48,080 --> 04:38:49,279
because that was the only one that he

6412
04:38:49,279 --> 04:38:53,920
had, I believe, in advance of coming in.

6413
04:38:53,920 --> 04:38:56,799
Um,

6414
04:38:56,799 --> 04:38:59,359
yeah, I'd be okay with doing the 150 up

6415
04:38:59,359 --> 04:39:03,600
in the cannabis. Um,

6416
04:39:03,600 --> 04:39:09,189
I have to find John's email again.

6417
04:39:09,199 --> 04:39:18,551
Here's

6418
04:39:18,561 --> 04:39:25,349
the Here's John.

6419
04:39:25,359 --> 04:39:27,359
was increasing cannabis by

6420
04:39:27,359 --> 04:39:30,561
$300,000. I believe

6421
04:39:30,561 --> 04:39:36,310
um

6422
04:39:36,320 --> 04:39:38,718
on that one

6423
04:39:38,718 --> 04:39:40,878
John was going to a million, Dorine's

6424
04:39:40,878 --> 04:39:43,840
going to 800,000. Demani was going to

6425
04:39:43,840 --> 04:39:47,760
850 and Miriam was going to 850. Um I

6426
04:39:47,760 --> 04:39:49,520
will say

6427
04:39:49,520 --> 04:39:52,638
um 850.

6428
04:39:52,638 --> 04:39:56,798
So that is A116.

6429
04:39:56,798 --> 04:39:58,798
>> Question. I think it it's just it

6430
04:39:58,798 --> 04:40:00,798
doesn't matter what we were doing. So

6431
04:40:00,798 --> 04:40:02,320
I'm just listening but I was listening

6432
04:40:02,320 --> 04:40:03,760
to all of you and listening to the

6433
04:40:03,760 --> 04:40:05,520
arguments. I listened to the police.

6434
04:40:05,520 --> 04:40:06,638
>> Absolutely.

6435
04:40:06,638 --> 04:40:08,638
>> This is this is not about any of us.

6436
04:40:08,638 --> 04:40:10,240
>> No,

6437
04:40:10,240 --> 04:40:12,638
I know. I'm making my own I am making my

6438
04:40:12,638 --> 04:40:17,040
own I think I just I kind of process

6439
04:40:17,040 --> 04:40:18,240
differently.

6440
04:40:18,240 --> 04:40:19,760
>> So you're making a decision based on all

6441
04:40:19,760 --> 04:40:21,120
the information that you heard.

6442
04:40:21,120 --> 04:40:22,718
>> I am I am.

6443
04:40:22,718 --> 04:40:24,560
>> So that's what I was saying. I think

6444
04:40:24,560 --> 04:40:26,240
that it's not too much for you to take

6445
04:40:26,240 --> 04:40:28,320
that and go through it and then send it

6446
04:40:28,320 --> 04:40:30,160
in. We would have it if you send it to

6447
04:40:30,160 --> 04:40:32,320
Sam and then that would be easier.

6448
04:40:32,320 --> 04:40:34,160
>> I can do it tomorrow.

6449
04:40:34,160 --> 04:40:35,440
>> I definitely couldn't do it when I go

6450
04:40:35,440 --> 04:40:35,920
home now.

6451
04:40:35,920 --> 04:40:36,480
>> Right.

6452
04:40:36,480 --> 04:40:38,958
>> Um but I can actually I mean I do I

6453
04:40:38,958 --> 04:40:41,520
agree with what Mr. Mutter is saying. I

6454
04:40:41,520 --> 04:40:44,080
will say I came in here tonight to say

6455
04:40:44,080 --> 04:40:46,240
yeah same thing. Hiring freeze needs to

6456
04:40:46,240 --> 04:40:49,120
continue. Um, I don't think we should be

6457
04:40:49,120 --> 04:40:52,798
necessarily filling vacant vacancies

6458
04:40:52,798 --> 04:40:54,878
um or adding new positions, but again, I

6459
04:40:54,878 --> 04:40:56,638
want to make sure that I'm, you know,

6460
04:40:56,638 --> 04:40:58,480
looking across the board at those. I

6461
04:40:58,480 --> 04:40:59,680
think that's what you just said, right,

6462
04:40:59,680 --> 04:41:02,480
Mr. Munar? Um, so I kind of agree with

6463
04:41:02,480 --> 04:41:06,000
that one. Um, there's one other place

6464
04:41:06,000 --> 04:41:07,680
where I wrote a note that I would

6465
04:41:07,680 --> 04:41:09,360
suggest.

6466
04:41:09,360 --> 04:41:11,120
Oh, there was one. Oh, yeah, the bus

6467
04:41:11,120 --> 04:41:12,958
patrol. I really want to stay with the

6468
04:41:12,958 --> 04:41:16,400
400,000 on the bus patrol. So that is

6469
04:41:16,400 --> 04:41:20,240
line 2610.

6470
04:41:20,240 --> 04:41:22,320
I think we should stick with the 400,000

6471
04:41:22,320 --> 04:41:24,400
there.

6472
04:41:24,400 --> 04:41:29,200
So I have a question regarding that. So you're not taking into into

6473
04:41:29,200 --> 04:41:31,920
consideration the $600,000

6474
04:41:31,920 --> 04:41:34,718
that is not that outstanding revenue

6475
04:41:34,718 --> 04:41:37,040
that they didn't account for in the

6476
04:41:37,040 --> 04:41:39,680
budget. that we hired from the chiefs

6477
04:41:39,680 --> 04:41:40,480
and ask

6478
04:41:40,480 --> 04:41:42,718
>> well I asked I asked them I actually

6479
04:41:42,718 --> 04:41:44,480
asked the question tonight whether they

6480
04:41:44,480 --> 04:41:46,638
thought the 400,000 was realistic and

6481
04:41:46,638 --> 04:41:48,560
they I wrote myself a note actually they

6482
04:41:48,560 --> 04:41:50,878
said yes the 400,000 was the realistic

6483
04:41:50,878 --> 04:41:51,280
number

6484
04:41:51,280 --> 04:41:52,718
>> but it does not factor in the

6485
04:41:52,718 --> 04:41:55,360
outstanding

6486
04:41:55,360 --> 04:41:57,040
>> okay so these you want to have these

6487
04:41:57,040 --> 04:41:59,520
discussions now instead of Friday

6488
04:41:59,520 --> 04:42:00,718
>> you're making a recommendation just like

6489
04:42:00,718 --> 04:42:02,958
when we were making re I'm going to

6490
04:42:02,958 --> 04:42:05,520
stick with the four I'm yes I'm going to

6491
04:42:05,520 --> 04:42:07,600
stick with the 400,000

6492
04:42:07,600 --> 04:42:18,390
on that one. Um,

6493
04:42:18,400 --> 04:42:19,760
I'm sorry. I have to put in my other

6494
04:42:19,760 --> 04:42:22,240
notes that I took tonight and look back

6495
04:42:22,240 --> 04:42:24,080
at them.

6496
04:42:24,080 --> 04:42:25,280
>> Sorry about this.

6497
04:42:25,280 --> 04:42:26,560
>> No, you don't got to be sorry about it.

6498
04:42:26,560 --> 04:42:28,160
And if you need to take the night to

6499
04:42:28,160 --> 04:42:29,760
tomorrow, tomorrow morning to do it, you

6500
04:42:29,760 --> 04:42:31,680
can do that. Just like do that. There's

6501
04:42:31,680 --> 04:42:32,958
nothing wrong.

6502
04:42:32,958 --> 04:42:34,718
>> And I I feel like like like we're

6503
04:42:34,718 --> 04:42:36,320
forcing you to go do it. You said that

6504
04:42:36,320 --> 04:42:37,440
you didn't want to do it.

6505
04:42:37,440 --> 04:42:38,798
>> You get up in the morning to go through

6506
04:42:38,798 --> 04:42:40,320
your notes and email out right away to

6507
04:42:40,320 --> 04:42:42,400
Sam and Derek.

6508
04:42:42,400 --> 04:42:44,080
>> With a fresh mind, I kind of understand

6509
04:42:44,080 --> 04:42:44,480
that.

6510
04:42:44,480 --> 04:42:46,320
>> We'll all be on the same.

6511
04:42:46,320 --> 04:42:47,840
>> Okay. All right. And that's

6512
04:42:47,840 --> 04:42:49,200
>> I might add some stuff tomorrow, too.

6513
04:42:49,200 --> 04:42:50,718
Don't worry. We're in it together.

6514
04:42:50,718 --> 04:42:53,040
>> I mean, believe me, on Friday, I get to

6515
04:42:53,040 --> 04:42:55,280
see and and actually we will see this

6516
04:42:55,280 --> 04:42:57,280
document before we come here at 5:30 on

6517
04:42:57,280 --> 04:42:59,040
Friday. Right.

6518
04:42:59,040 --> 04:43:00,240
>> Tomorrow's only Thursday,

6519
04:43:00,240 --> 04:43:02,080
>> right? So, we'll get it we'll get it in

6520
04:43:02,080 --> 04:43:04,000
time to review that document before we

6521
04:43:04,000 --> 04:43:04,560
come here.

6522
04:43:04,560 --> 04:43:08,160
>> Can you please to email

6523
04:43:08,160 --> 04:43:11,120
that if if I may the document is going

6524
04:43:11,120 --> 04:43:13,200
to be available to us when all of us

6525
04:43:13,200 --> 04:43:15,760
submit our proposal. If you do not have

6526
04:43:15,760 --> 04:43:17,600
any proposal

6527
04:43:17,600 --> 04:43:19,200
then the document is going to be

6528
04:43:19,200 --> 04:43:21,840
available just I just want to look over

6529
04:43:21,840 --> 04:43:23,280
all my notes from tonight. I am not

6530
04:43:23,280 --> 04:43:24,718
going to have the finance commissioner

6531
04:43:24,718 --> 04:43:27,040
send out a document and then we are

6532
04:43:27,040 --> 04:43:28,560
still in the process of submitting your

6533
04:43:28,560 --> 04:43:29,200
own.

6534
04:43:29,200 --> 04:43:31,200
>> No, no. What I'm saying is as long as

6535
04:43:31,200 --> 04:43:33,040
I'm going to get him my stuff as soon as

6536
04:43:33,040 --> 04:43:35,840
I can tomorrow morning and then I'm just

6537
04:43:35,840 --> 04:43:37,680
asking if we could get it back in enough

6538
04:43:37,680 --> 04:43:39,600
time to look through that document

6539
04:43:39,600 --> 04:43:42,160
before we come back here on 5:30 on on

6540
04:43:42,160 --> 04:43:42,638
Friday.

6541
04:43:42,638 --> 04:43:45,520
>> Is that is that the plan that we have it

6542
04:43:45,520 --> 04:43:47,520
before we come back on?

6543
04:43:47,520 --> 04:43:49,280
>> Well, we have never done that before.

6544
04:43:49,280 --> 04:43:51,360
>> Oh, we've just come and sat and looked

6545
04:43:51,360 --> 04:43:53,120
at it. We present a proposal. We allow

6546
04:43:53,120 --> 04:43:55,280
them to to do their changes. They add

6547
04:43:55,280 --> 04:43:58,320
the column do every bring these this

6548
04:43:58,320 --> 04:44:00,560
information to us and then we can kind

6549
04:44:00,560 --> 04:44:01,760
of like start. Okay.

6550
04:44:01,760 --> 04:44:02,240
>> Okay.

6551
04:44:02,240 --> 04:44:05,280
>> Here is here is um cannabis

6552
04:44:05,280 --> 04:44:06,878
one is saying a million one is saying

6553
04:44:06,878 --> 04:44:08,878
800. Where do we stand on this? Do we

6554
04:44:08,878 --> 04:44:10,320
have a consensus? Do we have an

6555
04:44:10,320 --> 04:44:12,798
agreement? Where do we the finance

6556
04:44:12,798 --> 04:44:13,840
committee will have to make a

6557
04:44:13,840 --> 04:44:15,280
recommendation and what do we do with

6558
04:44:15,280 --> 04:44:17,280
that on that line? That's how we decided

6559
04:44:17,280 --> 04:44:17,760
to do it.

6560
04:44:17,760 --> 04:44:20,000
>> I guess so we better add the other

6561
04:44:20,000 --> 04:44:22,240
night. We we have to add an additional

6562
04:44:22,240 --> 04:44:23,360
Friday.

6563
04:44:23,360 --> 04:44:26,000
>> If we don't push these things on and we

6564
04:44:26,000 --> 04:44:29,360
keep dragging them on into next day,

6565
04:44:29,360 --> 04:44:30,878
>> we've been doing that for the last

6566
04:44:30,878 --> 04:44:32,878
couple days. We're going to end up into

6567
04:44:32,878 --> 04:44:34,958
next week. And I was about to ask, I

6568
04:44:34,958 --> 04:44:37,440
need some availability next week or this

6569
04:44:37,440 --> 04:44:38,080
weekend.

6570
04:44:38,080 --> 04:44:39,600
>> Monday.

6571
04:44:39,600 --> 04:44:43,520
>> I'm What time is that?

6572
04:44:43,520 --> 04:44:46,080
>> But so, but Mr. I do have to ask this

6573
04:44:46,080 --> 04:44:48,160
question.

6574
04:44:48,160 --> 04:44:52,560
What uh what Mr. Mukam is going to do? I

6575
04:44:52,560 --> 04:44:54,958
say 850 for candidates. You say your

6576
04:44:54,958 --> 04:44:57,360
name. So what is he really going to put

6577
04:44:57,360 --> 04:44:59,280
in his documentation? Is he just going

6578
04:44:59,280 --> 04:45:01,120
to list all of our stuff separately? You

6579
04:45:01,120 --> 04:45:04,160
know, it can't be like when down the

6580
04:45:04,160 --> 04:45:08,160
hall because we came here with saying

6581
04:45:08,160 --> 04:45:09,600
Friday we can't have it run into the

6582
04:45:09,600 --> 04:45:11,040
office. So we have to get our

6583
04:45:11,040 --> 04:45:14,560
recommendation in before before 5:30. Do

6584
04:45:14,560 --> 04:45:16,080
you want me to create a summary sheet

6585
04:45:16,080 --> 04:45:18,080
like this for each individual

6586
04:45:18,080 --> 04:45:20,000
>> for each individual?

6587
04:45:20,000 --> 04:45:22,320
>> So you have it's going to be a summer.

6588
04:45:22,320 --> 04:45:23,680
It's not going to be the fall,

6589
04:45:23,680 --> 04:45:24,240
>> right?

6590
04:45:24,240 --> 04:45:26,560
>> Just the changes.

6591
04:45:26,560 --> 04:45:28,400
>> Each person's changes and we still I'm

6592
04:45:28,400 --> 04:45:32,948
sorry. We still have one touch that

6593
04:45:32,958 --> 04:45:35,600
comfortable for you just on one sheet.

6594
04:45:35,600 --> 04:45:37,120
>> Well,

6595
04:45:37,120 --> 04:45:39,680
all all six of us. I would probably

6596
04:45:39,680 --> 04:45:42,958
recommend doing six different sheets

6597
04:45:42,958 --> 04:45:45,920
and and also the percentage of the tax

6598
04:45:45,920 --> 04:45:48,718
increase up or down based on those

6599
04:45:48,718 --> 04:45:50,718
recommendations on each one.

6600
04:45:50,718 --> 04:45:54,400
>> The totals then then how much is that?

6601
04:45:54,400 --> 04:45:55,360
>> That's right.

6602
04:45:55,360 --> 04:45:57,280
>> Reducing the rate

6603
04:45:57,280 --> 04:45:59,680
>> by based on those revenues on each one.

6604
04:45:59,680 --> 04:46:02,638
So everybody can take a look and compare

6605
04:46:02,638 --> 04:46:05,200
>> which column is working and which isn't

6606
04:46:05,200 --> 04:46:07,120
and where there's consensus and what

6607
04:46:07,120 --> 04:46:09,120
impact that has. So that's my

6608
04:46:09,120 --> 04:46:11,200
recommendation is that's a calculator.

6609
04:46:11,200 --> 04:46:12,718
>> I think that makes sense. So if you want

6610
04:46:12,718 --> 04:46:15,840
to pass around a brief thing um summary

6611
04:46:15,840 --> 04:46:19,680
from what we have there provided earlier

6612
04:46:19,680 --> 04:46:22,878
um just to get an idea that's

6613
04:46:22,878 --> 04:46:28,230
all the council members to

6614
04:46:28,240 --> 04:46:30,160
» so then we still will have to come back

6615
04:46:30,160 --> 04:46:32,878
together because then at least my memory

6616
04:46:32,878 --> 04:46:37,280
is that we will see uh this document

6617
04:46:37,280 --> 04:46:39,680
right it'll look like this again

6618
04:46:39,680 --> 04:46:40,718
>> this is just you

6619
04:46:40,718 --> 04:46:44,080
>> but it'll be like proposed council,

6620
04:46:44,080 --> 04:46:46,160
>> right? And then that's where we start to

6621
04:46:46,160 --> 04:46:48,560
really talk to each other and figure out

6622
04:46:48,560 --> 04:46:51,760
>> well that's not what he's planning

6623
04:46:51,760 --> 04:46:53,920
to say.

6624
04:46:53,920 --> 04:46:54,638
>> Go ahead,

6625
04:46:54,638 --> 04:46:57,280
>> Mr. Cathar.

6626
04:46:57,280 --> 04:47:00,718
So it'll be six sheets,

6627
04:47:00,718 --> 04:47:01,120
>> right?

6628
04:47:01,120 --> 04:47:03,440
>> We kind of have Mr. Williams's cuz he

6629
04:47:03,440 --> 04:47:04,560
did it that way.

6630
04:47:04,560 --> 04:47:06,480
>> And then we'll go by line. This is what

6631
04:47:06,480 --> 04:47:08,718
people are reporting. Um, then we'll

6632
04:47:08,718 --> 04:47:10,240
have negotiations and then we'll all

6633
04:47:10,240 --> 04:47:12,320
agree on that line. Then we'll move to

6634
04:47:12,320 --> 04:47:13,840
the next line and we'll do that.

6635
04:47:13,840 --> 04:47:15,600
>> And we didn't make changes. I mean, you

6636
04:47:15,600 --> 04:47:17,600
guys only made changes to I'm going to

6637
04:47:17,600 --> 04:47:19,840
say I'm guessing like six or seven lines

6638
04:47:19,840 --> 04:47:21,280
all told.

6639
04:47:21,280 --> 04:47:22,798
>> I don't think it's super significant.

6640
04:47:22,798 --> 04:47:25,040
But what we didn't do tonight

6641
04:47:25,040 --> 04:47:27,040
>> as far as I'm concerned about whether we

6642
04:47:27,040 --> 04:47:29,840
changing the expenses down

6643
04:47:29,840 --> 04:47:32,480
>> I mean I did a little bit

6644
04:47:32,480 --> 04:47:35,600
Mr. Williams did too

6645
04:47:35,600 --> 04:47:39,360
>> for councilman. He said one email

6646
04:47:39,360 --> 04:47:43,360
suggested to reduce management salaries.

6647
04:47:43,360 --> 04:47:46,240
>> Excuse me.

6648
04:47:46,240 --> 04:47:48,000
>> No, I asked for

6649
04:47:48,000 --> 04:47:50,160
>> Okay. There was an email saying no

6650
04:47:50,160 --> 04:47:51,040
management salary.

6651
04:47:51,040 --> 04:47:52,798
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was my that

6652
04:47:52,798 --> 04:47:53,840
was my suggestion.

6653
04:47:53,840 --> 04:47:57,280
>> Okay. So, I would have to add I don't

6654
04:47:57,280 --> 04:48:00,320
know 50 something lines for management.

6655
04:48:00,320 --> 04:48:03,600
No, just everything

6656
04:48:03,600 --> 04:48:04,240
just like that.

6657
04:48:04,240 --> 04:48:06,400
>> Yeah, that's a basic number there.

6658
04:48:06,400 --> 04:48:09,440
>> We would have to know each line how to

6659
04:48:09,440 --> 04:48:11,600
reduce it or keep the same.

6660
04:48:11,600 --> 04:48:13,520
>> Yeah, that's when we go to

6661
04:48:13,520 --> 04:48:16,400
>> So that's that's management line. So 50

6662
04:48:16,400 --> 04:48:18,160
different lines for the management

6663
04:48:18,160 --> 04:48:22,000
>> salary. So you have to

6664
04:48:22,000 --> 04:48:25,680
roll back. I don't know if he did that.

6665
04:48:25,680 --> 04:48:27,520
>> I think he already did it once. So now

6666
04:48:27,520 --> 04:48:29,680
he would just take the changes and do it

6667
04:48:29,680 --> 04:48:30,320
again.

6668
04:48:30,320 --> 04:48:33,120
>> Well, it was only the only people that

6669
04:48:33,120 --> 04:48:34,798
talked about that thing. I think it was

6670
04:48:34,798 --> 04:48:38,400
John himself. John was was at

6671
04:48:38,400 --> 04:48:39,600
>> you know I came prepared.

6672
04:48:39,600 --> 04:48:40,798
>> Right. That's what I'm saying.

6673
04:48:40,798 --> 04:48:42,320
>> And I wanted to move this budget

6674
04:48:42,320 --> 04:48:44,480
forward. That's why I said to be move

6675
04:48:44,480 --> 04:48:46,080
forward. If not, we're going to have to

6676
04:48:46,080 --> 04:48:48,480
go into the next week or this weekend

6677
04:48:48,480 --> 04:48:49,920
when I am going to have to discuss the

6678
04:48:49,920 --> 04:48:52,000
new availability because we're going to

6679
04:48:52,000 --> 04:48:53,280
come in Friday here and we're going to

6680
04:48:53,280 --> 04:48:54,878
still talking about we're going to still

6681
04:48:54,878 --> 04:48:56,958
be talking about revenue. We're going to

6682
04:48:56,958 --> 04:48:58,320
still be talking about

6683
04:48:58,320 --> 04:49:01,600
>> No, we did that. She missed that.

6684
04:49:01,600 --> 04:49:03,600
>> Yeah.

6685
04:49:03,600 --> 04:49:06,320
Some of us did talk about expenditure.

6686
04:49:06,320 --> 04:49:07,680
>> None of us did

6687
04:49:07,680 --> 04:49:09,760
>> expenditures. Yes. But revenue we did.

6688
04:49:09,760 --> 04:49:11,760
>> Yes, we did. teach you session.

6689
04:49:11,760 --> 04:49:14,400
>> We touch on revenue. What about

6690
04:49:14,400 --> 04:49:16,718
>> Well, we could either do it now, but I

6691
04:49:16,718 --> 04:49:19,600
think many of us are tired or we do that

6692
04:49:19,600 --> 04:49:20,798
on Friday.

6693
04:49:20,798 --> 04:49:21,520
>> I gave my

6694
04:49:21,520 --> 04:49:23,840
>> Well, that's what's going to have to

6695
04:49:23,840 --> 04:49:24,958
roll into another day because we're

6696
04:49:24,958 --> 04:49:25,840
going to have to send it.

6697
04:49:25,840 --> 04:49:27,280
>> I kind of came in here thinking that we

6698
04:49:27,280 --> 04:49:28,560
were going to have to have another day

6699
04:49:28,560 --> 04:49:30,958
because I I mean, first of all, when

6700
04:49:30,958 --> 04:49:32,878
already just talking about the revenue,

6701
04:49:32,878 --> 04:49:36,000
I think it's like 10:00 at night.

6702
04:49:36,000 --> 04:49:38,000
>> 10:30

6703
04:49:38,000 --> 04:49:42,000
10:19. Um, so we still I mean I kind of

6704
04:49:42,000 --> 04:49:43,600
already cleared some stuff from my

6705
04:49:43,600 --> 04:49:45,520
schedule next week cuz I figured we were

6706
04:49:45,520 --> 04:49:47,680
going to have to go into next week. I

6707
04:49:47,680 --> 04:49:49,440
mean even based on our conversation last

6708
04:49:49,440 --> 04:49:50,878
night. I mean I just thought that we

6709
04:49:50,878 --> 04:49:52,240
were going to have to have

6710
04:49:52,240 --> 04:49:54,240
>> some more days. I think what we need to

6711
04:49:54,240 --> 04:49:56,878
say tonight is everybody needs to get

6712
04:49:56,878 --> 04:49:58,400
their expenditures in. They didn't have

6713
04:49:58,400 --> 04:50:00,400
them tonight

6714
04:50:00,400 --> 04:50:02,958
by tomorrow. I mean and then he'd have

6715
04:50:02,958 --> 04:50:04,320
everything to present to put together

6716
04:50:04,320 --> 04:50:06,240
for Friday. It's not even an option. I

6717
04:50:06,240 --> 04:50:08,480
had mine but what I understood us to do

6718
04:50:08,480 --> 04:50:09,760
that when we're going around the table

6719
04:50:09,760 --> 04:50:10,958
for revenue right I'm going to make

6720
04:50:10,958 --> 04:50:13,520
another right for expenditure

6721
04:50:13,520 --> 04:50:16,400
>> and then the second circle didn't happen

6722
04:50:16,400 --> 04:50:19,040
>> right I mean I could sit here for like

6723
04:50:19,040 --> 04:50:20,878
10 minutes and probably you know write

6724
04:50:20,878 --> 04:50:22,718
down all my thing isn't that I mean I

6725
04:50:22,718 --> 04:50:24,480
feel like some of that you guys were

6726
04:50:24,480 --> 04:50:26,480
also kind of making changes and thinking

6727
04:50:26,480 --> 04:50:28,718
about it because of what we tonight

6728
04:50:28,718 --> 04:50:30,878
>> yeah I mean so I sent in my revenue

6729
04:50:30,878 --> 04:50:33,120
increases and my expenditures in your

6730
04:50:33,120 --> 04:50:35,440
email earlier today

6731
04:50:35,440 --> 04:50:41,030
But we got it.

6732
04:50:41,040 --> 04:50:42,718
I was very clear yesterday evening with

6733
04:50:42,718 --> 04:50:45,440
you. So please sent in your

6734
04:50:45,440 --> 04:50:47,120
recommendation,

6735
04:50:47,120 --> 04:50:49,840
>> right? And I'm sorry that I did not also

6736
04:50:49,840 --> 04:50:52,638
wanted to hear the addition that

6737
04:50:52,638 --> 04:50:54,000
happened.

6738
04:50:54,000 --> 04:50:56,480
>> Um I'm glad that the others uh sended

6739
04:50:56,480 --> 04:50:58,480
their recommendation. One recommendation

6740
04:50:58,480 --> 04:51:02,160
I also had was the fees for service.

6741
04:51:02,160 --> 04:51:05,120
the fees for sorry M Derek.

6742
04:51:05,120 --> 04:51:06,080
>> Yes. Yes.

6743
04:51:06,080 --> 04:51:09,120
>> Uh I would I will my recommendation is

6744
04:51:09,120 --> 04:51:13,120
to also pull a high level uh report of

6745
04:51:13,120 --> 04:51:15,600
how much we spending towards treats for

6746
04:51:15,600 --> 04:51:18,878
service across all department

6747
04:51:18,878 --> 04:51:22,718
>> and my uh my recommendation was to um

6748
04:51:22,718 --> 04:51:25,040
well for us to consider this is my

6749
04:51:25,040 --> 04:51:27,680
proposal as my proposal. I want to be

6750
04:51:27,680 --> 04:51:29,120
very clear with people.

6751
04:51:29,120 --> 04:51:31,040
>> Yes. These are all we're saying here is

6752
04:51:31,040 --> 04:51:32,958
our proposal.

6753
04:51:32,958 --> 04:51:35,440
>> So to kind of lower that by 10% across

6754
04:51:35,440 --> 04:51:36,878
the board, but that's one of my

6755
04:51:36,878 --> 04:51:38,160
recommendation that it should be added

6756
04:51:38,160 --> 04:51:40,560
as a cost reduction.

6757
04:51:40,560 --> 04:51:42,320
And that's the mail that was sent to the

6758
04:51:42,320 --> 04:51:44,718
and everybody was copied on that.

6759
04:51:44,718 --> 04:51:46,240
>> And

6760
04:51:46,240 --> 04:51:52,868
this is the services.

6761
04:51:52,878 --> 04:51:54,878
» I think you have something you want to

6762
04:51:54,878 --> 04:51:56,878
add. Yeah, you have to say something

6763
04:51:56,878 --> 04:51:58,160
about the local law.

6764
04:51:58,160 --> 04:51:58,878
>> I'll be your pardon.

6765
04:51:58,878 --> 04:52:01,680
>> The local law we go regarding the

6766
04:52:01,680 --> 04:52:02,798
override

6767
04:52:02,798 --> 04:52:03,760
>> of the tax.

6768
04:52:03,760 --> 04:52:05,440
>> Oh, good.

6769
04:52:05,440 --> 04:52:06,798
>> Oh, you want to talk about that?

6770
04:52:06,798 --> 04:52:10,718
>> Yeah. Based on

6771
04:52:10,718 --> 04:52:17,590
>> you know that falls into

6772
04:52:17,600 --> 04:52:19,360
proposals

6773
04:52:19,360 --> 04:52:27,280
budget carried $2.6 $6 million in peace facilities that don't also include

6774
04:52:27,280 --> 04:52:28,240
training.

6775
04:52:28,240 --> 04:52:30,320
>> These are extras, I guess. Yes.

6776
04:52:30,320 --> 04:52:31,840
>> Okay.

6777
04:52:31,840 --> 04:52:36,390
>> I'm sorry. Could you repeat that, Mr. M?

6778
04:52:36,400 --> 04:52:36,958
You just got

6779
04:52:36,958 --> 04:52:38,080
>> I didn't hear what you're saying cuz I

6780
04:52:38,080 --> 04:52:38,798
was like

6781
04:52:38,798 --> 04:52:41,600
>> this document

6782
04:52:41,600 --> 04:52:43,520
>> is for fees for service and also

6783
04:52:43,520 --> 04:52:44,480
training.

6784
04:52:44,480 --> 04:52:45,840
>> Oh, that's good because that is the

6785
04:52:45,840 --> 04:52:46,718
other thing that

6786
04:52:46,718 --> 04:52:50,320
>> it's $2.6 million.

6787
04:52:50,320 --> 04:52:51,600
That was one of the things that I think

6788
04:52:51,600 --> 04:52:53,040
I mentioned to you.

6789
04:52:53,040 --> 04:52:54,560
>> We did talk about this last training.

6790
04:52:54,560 --> 04:52:54,878
Yeah,

6791
04:52:54,878 --> 04:52:56,958
>> the training. So my recommendation is

6792
04:52:56,958 --> 04:52:58,958
that based on this I would like to see

6793
04:52:58,958 --> 04:53:01,200
uh my recommendation a 10% reduction

6794
04:53:01,200 --> 04:53:03,280
across

6795
04:53:03,280 --> 04:53:04,958
>> 10%

6796
04:53:04,958 --> 04:53:07,760
reduction in these lines each department

6797
04:53:07,760 --> 04:53:09,680
>> all together%

6798
04:53:09,680 --> 04:53:11,200
>> that's my recommendation. It's my

6799
04:53:11,200 --> 04:53:12,638
recommendation.

6800
04:53:12,638 --> 04:53:16,480
I mean just before you do that

6801
04:53:16,480 --> 04:53:20,080
department come in and talk about that

6802
04:53:20,080 --> 04:53:22,320
>> we already reduce them drastically.

6803
04:53:22,320 --> 04:53:24,560
>> I mean I think we took notes from every

6804
04:53:24,560 --> 04:53:25,360
department

6805
04:53:25,360 --> 04:53:26,958
>> not contractual but the agreements in

6806
04:53:26,958 --> 04:53:28,160
place where

6807
04:53:28,160 --> 04:53:29,200
>> we can't just do it

6808
04:53:29,200 --> 04:53:32,080
>> you can't just cut it in

6809
04:53:32,080 --> 04:53:33,600
I would recommend that if you really

6810
04:53:33,600 --> 04:53:35,840
wanted to entertaining increasing it

6811
04:53:35,840 --> 04:53:40,160
even further. I do see um like there's

6812
04:53:40,160 --> 04:53:44,878
been I see the first um A1010 404 that

6813
04:53:44,878 --> 04:53:47,520
was actually more than half but you see

6814
04:53:47,520 --> 04:53:49,600
what you're talking about. However, um

6815
04:53:49,600 --> 04:53:51,920
if I jump to the very next one and I

6816
04:53:51,920 --> 04:53:53,520
don't know which department these are

6817
04:53:53,520 --> 04:53:55,520
A134

6818
04:53:55,520 --> 04:53:58,000
the exact same amount. So some have been

6819
04:53:58,000 --> 04:54:01,040
reduced um considerably and others have

6820
04:54:01,040 --> 04:54:06,080
remained the same. So do we um only ask

6821
04:54:06,080 --> 04:54:09,200
the people who's if we must do this do

6822
04:54:09,200 --> 04:54:10,878
we only ask the people who's remain the

6823
04:54:10,878 --> 04:54:13,360
same when we talk about cutting in

6824
04:54:13,360 --> 04:54:20,230
another 10% like this is rema

6825
04:54:20,240 --> 04:54:23,440
Finance and we usually keep that the

6826
04:54:23,440 --> 04:54:26,560
same that's most of the audit services

6827
04:54:26,560 --> 04:54:29,280
that the annual audit and there's other

6828
04:54:29,280 --> 04:54:33,040
u that you have no you

6829
04:54:33,040 --> 04:54:33,600
what it is.

6830
04:54:33,600 --> 04:54:38,000
>> And there's 13 35 148 didn't change.

6831
04:54:38,000 --> 04:54:40,240
>> So, some of these didn't change.

6832
04:54:40,240 --> 04:54:42,798
>> Um, a lot of them seem like they really

6833
04:54:42,798 --> 04:54:44,480
didn't change and this one was

6834
04:54:44,480 --> 04:54:45,760
significantly. I don't know what they

6835
04:54:45,760 --> 04:54:49,040
are. So, I have to go back and I believe

6836
04:54:49,040 --> 04:54:52,480
one that was

6837
04:54:52,480 --> 04:54:54,080
discussed

6838
04:54:54,080 --> 04:54:56,798
and he have been consolidating some of

6839
04:54:56,798 --> 04:55:00,798
that from other departments. That's why

6840
04:55:00,798 --> 04:55:07,350
I follow

6841
04:55:07,360 --> 04:55:10,160
look at the report and can we have this

6842
04:55:10,160 --> 04:55:14,390
>> because I asked for the report

6843
04:55:14,400 --> 04:55:14,638
here.

6844
04:55:14,638 --> 04:55:17,280
>> Okay. Can we get this electronic please?

6845
04:55:17,280 --> 04:55:20,320
Thank you.

6846
04:55:20,320 --> 04:55:21,920
>> Is there anything that would help you

6847
04:55:21,920 --> 04:55:23,920
digest the stock a little further

6848
04:55:23,920 --> 04:55:25,680
because you just see numbers for

6849
04:55:25,680 --> 04:55:28,958
services. I'm going to go back look at

6850
04:55:28,958 --> 04:55:30,480
the number and then I'm going to look at

6851
04:55:30,480 --> 04:55:32,638
this and then I'm going to look at my

6852
04:55:32,638 --> 04:55:36,958
notes from the term both presentations

6853
04:55:36,958 --> 04:55:39,600
and that will help me decide whether we

6854
04:55:39,600 --> 04:55:42,080
can or cannot reduce these based on what

6855
04:55:42,080 --> 04:55:44,240
the line is right everybody

6856
04:55:44,240 --> 04:55:46,320
>> I mean I can just refer to the budget if

6857
04:55:46,320 --> 04:55:49,040
it's if it's nothing

6858
04:55:49,040 --> 04:55:50,930
there'll

6859
04:55:50,930 --> 04:55:55,830
[Music]

6860
04:55:55,840 --> 04:55:57,120
and he said that he doesn't have to put

6861
04:55:57,120 --> 04:56:00,000
it in. It'll just fit a bill so he can

6862
04:56:00,000 --> 04:56:02,480
go. All right, let me just take a pause

6863
04:56:02,480 --> 04:56:08,958
for a minute on the um call brief.

6864
04:56:08,958 --> 04:56:13,200
I forget. Okay. Um briefly, um you've

6865
04:56:13,200 --> 04:56:15,200
got the draft ordinance, budget

6866
04:56:15,200 --> 04:56:17,280
ordinance looks the same as in the past

6867
04:56:17,280 --> 04:56:19,280
years. It's a matter of filling in the

6868
04:56:19,280 --> 04:56:21,840
amounts. What changes is the proposed

6869
04:56:21,840 --> 04:56:24,480
tax cap override the tax cap. The state

6870
04:56:24,480 --> 04:56:27,360
law mandates that you pass a local law

6871
04:56:27,360 --> 04:56:30,480
authorizing the tax cap

6872
04:56:30,480 --> 04:56:31,840
override.

6873
04:56:31,840 --> 04:56:34,400
>> There's certain procedures. Procedures

6874
04:56:34,400 --> 04:56:37,120
are that we I've given you the draft.

6875
04:56:37,120 --> 04:56:38,958
This is modeled on other cities that

6876
04:56:38,958 --> 04:56:43,120
have done this the legislation.

6877
04:56:43,120 --> 04:56:45,760
If for example you're planning on

6878
04:56:45,760 --> 04:56:47,920
passing the budget on Monday night and

6879
04:56:47,920 --> 04:56:49,680
the regular council you have to ask for

6880
04:56:49,680 --> 04:56:51,280
unanimous consent because you're not

6881
04:56:51,280 --> 04:56:53,520
going to be at least vote on it because

6882
04:56:53,520 --> 04:56:55,200
it's going to be majestically funded

6883
04:56:55,200 --> 04:56:58,480
prior after tomorrow

6884
04:56:58,480 --> 04:57:01,600
that the on a local law as we went

6885
04:57:01,600 --> 04:57:03,520
through the other local law earlier this

6886
04:57:03,520 --> 04:57:07,440
year has to be on the desk for 7 days.

6887
04:57:07,440 --> 04:57:10,638
Mayor, the mayor can ask for message of

6888
04:57:10,638 --> 04:57:12,798
necessity which is a letter to the

6889
04:57:12,798 --> 04:57:16,480
council saying that that the the uh

6890
04:57:16,480 --> 04:57:19,760
requirement from the the uh statute or

6891
04:57:19,760 --> 04:57:22,718
wave that you you introduce it and vote

6892
04:57:22,718 --> 04:57:25,040
it on the same night. The proposed

6893
04:57:25,040 --> 04:57:27,840
legislation is before you. It is the

6894
04:57:27,840 --> 04:57:31,040
intent of the of this local law to uh

6895
04:57:31,040 --> 04:57:32,958
permit but not require the city of

6896
04:57:32,958 --> 04:57:38,240
Skenquity the go of the tax cap. So

6897
04:57:38,240 --> 04:57:41,760
bottom line, this local law, it's got to

6898
04:57:41,760 --> 04:57:44,480
be passed prior to adopting the budget.

6899
04:57:44,480 --> 04:57:47,760
The mayor must send you message of

6900
04:57:47,760 --> 04:57:50,798
assessed the first plan on Monday night

6901
04:57:50,798 --> 04:57:54,240
hearing. Um that means local be

6902
04:57:54,240 --> 04:57:56,878
introduced and voted upon that same

6903
04:57:56,878 --> 04:57:59,680
night and the budget would be adopted

6904
04:57:59,680 --> 04:58:02,638
that same day. And the alternative if

6905
04:58:02,638 --> 04:58:05,520
you're what I am recommending this local

6906
04:58:05,520 --> 04:58:08,480
law introduced and be voted on on Monday

6907
04:58:08,480 --> 04:58:10,878
night. If the budget ordinance needs to

6908
04:58:10,878 --> 04:58:14,958
be take a few days to pass that you have

6909
04:58:14,958 --> 04:58:17,920
the local law pass

6910
04:58:17,920 --> 04:58:21,680
and it's below the tax cap. It's below

6911
04:58:21,680 --> 04:58:24,240
the tax cap. It's above the tax cap. The

6912
04:58:24,240 --> 04:58:27,440
local law is in place. That's what um

6913
04:58:27,440 --> 04:58:29,600
the the the calculations that the

6914
04:58:29,600 --> 04:58:31,520
finance department are going to do, the

6915
04:58:31,520 --> 04:58:34,160
finance commissioner are going to look

6916
04:58:34,160 --> 04:58:36,160
at you're going to see what what how

6917
04:58:36,160 --> 04:58:38,240
that impacts the tax cap. There's a

6918
04:58:38,240 --> 04:58:40,718
formula under the general municipal law

6919
04:58:40,718 --> 04:58:42,638
that the finance commissioner looks at

6920
04:58:42,638 --> 04:58:44,798
based on

6921
04:58:44,798 --> 04:58:49,120
the rates and tax base etc. the city of

6922
04:58:49,120 --> 04:58:50,798
Connecticut. It's all out laid out in

6923
04:58:50,798 --> 04:58:54,080
the general municipal law. E based on

6924
04:58:54,080 --> 04:58:56,878
the numbers that you've come to can look

6925
04:58:56,878 --> 04:58:59,920
at that formula and then say oh this is

6926
04:58:59,920 --> 04:59:02,560
these these you're above or below the

6927
04:59:02,560 --> 04:59:05,520
tax cap.

6928
04:59:05,520 --> 04:59:09,040
So, um, what I'm suggesting is that as

6929
04:59:09,040 --> 04:59:10,878
we go through this process, you know,

6930
04:59:10,878 --> 04:59:15,600
Friday, that Mon or Saturday, um, that

6931
04:59:15,600 --> 04:59:17,280
at the very least the finance committee

6932
04:59:17,280 --> 04:59:19,840
votes out of committee that this local

6933
04:59:19,840 --> 04:59:23,120
law be introduced and voted upon. So, at

6934
04:59:23,120 --> 04:59:25,360
least you have that. Now, advice this

6935
04:59:25,360 --> 04:59:27,360
weekend, you may know that you may be

6936
04:59:27,360 --> 04:59:29,680
below that tax cap and you wouldn't have

6937
04:59:29,680 --> 04:59:33,920
to worry about that. But if if it's not

6938
04:59:33,920 --> 04:59:36,080
getting to where you want to go, you

6939
04:59:36,080 --> 04:59:38,400
should have that local law squared away.

6940
04:59:38,400 --> 04:59:41,120
It does. The local doesn't commit to it

6941
04:59:41,120 --> 04:59:42,638
and just allows to

6942
04:59:42,638 --> 04:59:44,320
>> Can we understand? You know,

6943
04:59:44,320 --> 04:59:47,040
>> can we vote on that tonight so that we

6944
04:59:47,040 --> 04:59:49,760
can get it onto the agenda for

6945
04:59:49,760 --> 04:59:50,958
council meeting? This is a committee

6946
04:59:50,958 --> 04:59:51,120
meeting,

6947
04:59:51,120 --> 04:59:53,760
>> but this is a committee meeting. What I

6948
04:59:53,760 --> 04:59:55,760
No, no. But I recommend that you hold

6949
04:59:55,760 --> 04:59:58,798
off on voting the local committee until

6950
04:59:58,798 --> 05:00:01,280
you get further information and numbers

6951
05:00:01,280 --> 05:00:02,718
from the finance department.

6952
05:00:02,718 --> 05:00:04,160
>> No, we're not voting on anything

6953
05:00:04,160 --> 05:00:07,270
tonight.

6954
05:00:07,280 --> 05:00:09,200
» And that's that's all I have.

6955
05:00:09,200 --> 05:00:11,360
>> That's question.

6956
05:00:11,360 --> 05:00:14,878
Would you please when you find the uh

6957
05:00:14,878 --> 05:00:17,600
the originating documents for the fund

6958
05:00:17,600 --> 05:00:19,200
for the golf fund, could you for those

6959
05:00:19,200 --> 05:00:20,080
over to me, please?

6960
05:00:20,080 --> 05:00:20,400
>> Yes.

6961
05:00:20,400 --> 05:00:21,600
>> Thank you, sir. We'll look at the

6962
05:00:21,600 --> 05:00:23,840
ordinance and I got to talk to the

6963
05:00:23,840 --> 05:00:26,480
finance commission. I just like to see

6964
05:00:26,480 --> 05:00:28,320
what

6965
05:00:28,320 --> 05:00:32,320
>> and just you gave some recommendations

6966
05:00:32,320 --> 05:00:36,798
on how excuse me should provide

6967
05:00:36,798 --> 05:00:38,080
information from the set of

6968
05:00:38,080 --> 05:00:40,480
individually. So it was individual

6969
05:00:40,480 --> 05:00:41,920
sheets for each person with our

6970
05:00:41,920 --> 05:00:43,520
recommendations and then you said

6971
05:00:43,520 --> 05:00:44,560
something else

6972
05:00:44,560 --> 05:00:46,560
>> and how those you know each one of those

6973
05:00:46,560 --> 05:00:49,680
additions that you've made or deletions

6974
05:00:49,680 --> 05:00:52,240
that you've made how with the total

6975
05:00:52,240 --> 05:00:55,360
numbers how that would impact the tax

6976
05:00:55,360 --> 05:00:58,000
rate based on each one of those those

6977
05:00:58,000 --> 05:01:00,400
columns but then they have to give him

6978
05:01:00,400 --> 05:01:02,240
what we would be willing to I don't

6979
05:01:02,240 --> 05:01:03,760
think he talked everyone talked about

6980
05:01:03,760 --> 05:01:05,840
what we will be willing to take out of

6981
05:01:05,840 --> 05:01:07,040
our reserve

6982
05:01:07,040 --> 05:01:11,270
>> the expenses we didn't do expenses

6983
05:01:11,280 --> 05:01:13,840
But we can can I just say couldn't that

6984
05:01:13,840 --> 05:01:17,680
be um the six of us our things could be

6985
05:01:17,680 --> 05:01:20,480
on one spreadsheet so we see across the

6986
05:01:20,480 --> 05:01:22,400
you know what I mean like it might be

6987
05:01:22,400 --> 05:01:24,320
that

6988
05:01:24,320 --> 05:01:26,080
>> five of the six of us have the same

6989
05:01:26,080 --> 05:01:27,760
exact

6990
05:01:27,760 --> 05:01:29,760
if we see it all in one spreadsheet

6991
05:01:29,760 --> 05:01:31,680
across the board we might all have the

6992
05:01:31,680 --> 05:01:32,400
same

6993
05:01:32,400 --> 05:01:34,718
>> things I mean can you do that if we

6994
05:01:34,718 --> 05:01:37,600
>> we'll take a look and see if it's easy

6995
05:01:37,600 --> 05:01:38,878
on the

6996
05:01:38,878 --> 05:01:40,240
Okay.

6997
05:01:40,240 --> 05:01:41,120
>> On a legal sheet

6998
05:01:41,120 --> 05:01:42,400
>> that on a legal sheet. That's what

6999
05:01:42,400 --> 05:01:43,120
exactly.

7000
05:01:43,120 --> 05:01:46,480
>> So we can go through line by line.

7001
05:01:46,480 --> 05:01:46,718
So

7002
05:01:46,718 --> 05:01:51,120
>> the column would be John Dorine.

7003
05:01:51,120 --> 05:01:53,440
>> But yes, do it on one.

7004
05:01:53,440 --> 05:01:56,400
>> If you can again

7005
05:01:56,400 --> 05:01:58,080
notes, but just make sure we have

7006
05:01:58,080 --> 05:02:01,360
everything on paper correct. Send an

7007
05:02:01,360 --> 05:02:03,120
email. I don't

7008
05:02:03,120 --> 05:02:05,040
>> I was about to say that.

7009
05:02:05,040 --> 05:02:06,958
I'm going to remind you again in all of

7010
05:02:06,958 --> 05:02:10,560
respect you please please please send in

7011
05:02:10,560 --> 05:02:13,120
your proposal I do not want to come here

7012
05:02:13,120 --> 05:02:16,160
Friday and you still have proposal

7013
05:02:16,160 --> 05:02:19,360
I want to give the finance commissioner

7014
05:02:19,360 --> 05:02:23,040
the the absolute time to go and revise

7015
05:02:23,040 --> 05:02:25,120
their sheet and bring it back to us

7016
05:02:25,120 --> 05:02:26,320
Friday

7017
05:02:26,320 --> 05:02:26,718
>> right

7018
05:02:26,718 --> 05:02:29,040
>> we should not be well we should put this

7019
05:02:29,040 --> 05:02:31,600
in and we should put this in I'm giving

7020
05:02:31,600 --> 05:02:33,520
yall enough time

7021
05:02:33,520 --> 05:02:35,120
>> so to get that information in.

7022
05:02:35,120 --> 05:02:35,920
>> So for expenses

7023
05:02:35,920 --> 05:02:39,360
>> for this team to to expense revenue,

7024
05:02:39,360 --> 05:02:41,680
expenditure in and out whatever you want

7025
05:02:41,680 --> 05:02:43,760
to do. You want to add expenditure, you

7026
05:02:43,760 --> 05:02:46,160
want to reduce expenditure, you want to

7027
05:02:46,160 --> 05:02:47,600
increase revenue, you want to decrease

7028
05:02:47,600 --> 05:02:50,718
revenue, please submit it. I'm going to

7029
05:02:50,718 --> 05:02:52,878
reach out to Mr. Williams and ask him if

7030
05:02:52,878 --> 05:02:56,000
he has anything more. And if he does,

7031
05:02:56,000 --> 05:02:58,718
he's going to get an email and follow up

7032
05:02:58,718 --> 05:03:00,560
with that stuff. So, I'm going to ask

7033
05:03:00,560 --> 05:03:02,080
that the rest of us here to fight for

7034
05:03:02,080 --> 05:03:05,920
us. Please get that

7035
05:03:05,920 --> 05:03:09,200
>> if I you try to get that in one. Is that

7036
05:03:09,200 --> 05:03:09,840
what you're looking for?

7037
05:03:09,840 --> 05:03:14,480
>> I would just like one.

7038
05:03:14,480 --> 05:03:17,040
>> No, not one sheet per person.

7039
05:03:17,040 --> 05:03:19,600
>> Yes. One sheet. So, we can look at

7040
05:03:19,600 --> 05:03:21,280
>> Yeah. But Derek wants us to give him one

7041
05:03:21,280 --> 05:03:24,400
sheet. Is that what you're saying?

7042
05:03:24,400 --> 05:03:26,320
>> John wants these revenues, these

7043
05:03:26,320 --> 05:03:28,080
expenditures.

7044
05:03:28,080 --> 05:03:30,400
30s, these revenues, these expenditures.

7045
05:03:30,400 --> 05:03:33,520
So I so I know exactly we wrote it down

7046
05:03:33,520 --> 05:03:37,670
exactly everything

7047
05:03:37,680 --> 05:03:40,160
has so you can follow the

7048
05:03:40,160 --> 05:03:42,400
>> she doesn't have expenditures. She just

7049
05:03:42,400 --> 05:03:50,868
says the revenue

7050
05:03:50,878 --> 05:03:59,270
won't be able to separate that

7051
05:03:59,280 --> 05:04:06,708
transfer financ So we know everything.

7052
05:04:06,718 --> 05:04:09,840
» You're going to do it.

7053
05:04:09,840 --> 05:04:12,560
>> We we were going through detail and we

7054
05:04:12,560 --> 05:04:14,560
making sure that the commission of

7055
05:04:14,560 --> 05:04:16,560
finance was taking notes and M was

7056
05:04:16,560 --> 05:04:17,920
taking notes in terms of our

7057
05:04:17,920 --> 05:04:21,840
recommendation one by one. Please

7058
05:04:21,840 --> 05:04:26,080
>> clear that up or as he suggested email

7059
05:04:26,080 --> 05:04:27,600
whatever additional.

7060
05:04:27,600 --> 05:04:30,718
>> Yes, exactly. Just I just echo if you

7061
05:04:30,718 --> 05:04:34,240
have additional expenditure in or out

7062
05:04:34,240 --> 05:04:37,600
revenue in or out please email it and

7063
05:04:37,600 --> 05:04:39,680
that will be added under your name under

7064
05:04:39,680 --> 05:04:40,718
your t

7065
05:04:40,718 --> 05:04:42,798
>> and I'm assuming there's no adjustments

7066
05:04:42,798 --> 05:04:45,680
to any of the funds I said maybe golf

7067
05:04:45,680 --> 05:04:50,400
depending on what uh we find uh

7068
05:04:50,400 --> 05:04:54,310
I didn't hear anything

7069
05:04:54,320 --> 05:04:56,320
I I did have one about the cus I'm

7070
05:04:56,320 --> 05:04:58,400
wondering if we can buy fewer

7071
05:04:58,400 --> 05:05:02,798
EV like maybe I'm overlooked. Yes, we

7072
05:05:02,798 --> 05:05:05,520
purchased only six EV charger stations.

7073
05:05:05,520 --> 05:05:07,600
Um only one rear loader. So it was

7074
05:05:07,600 --> 05:05:09,440
because those were expense lines and we

7075
05:05:09,440 --> 05:05:10,560
didn't get there. So I'll send them

7076
05:05:10,560 --> 05:05:10,798
again.

7077
05:05:10,798 --> 05:05:12,878
>> Can you please send that to

7078
05:05:12,878 --> 05:05:15,360
>> and everyone on the the proposal please

7079
05:05:15,360 --> 05:05:17,840
add it as a expenditure?

7080
05:05:17,840 --> 05:05:20,000
>> Yep. And I have another expenditure but

7081
05:05:20,000 --> 05:05:21,840
we again we never got there.

7082
05:05:21,840 --> 05:05:25,040
>> Mr. Williams Mr. Williams was completed.

7083
05:05:25,040 --> 05:05:25,760
>> Okay.

7084
05:05:25,760 --> 05:05:26,958
>> Are we good tonight?

7085
05:05:26,958 --> 05:05:28,798
>> Mhm. So more likely we'll have to meet

7086
05:05:28,798 --> 05:05:30,958
again next week. So I don't know. I mean

7087
05:05:30,958 --> 05:05:32,638
we have we have a they have a short

7088
05:05:32,638 --> 05:05:35,200
meeting Monday

7089
05:05:35,200 --> 05:05:37,520
city council meeting. So we can I can

7090
05:05:37,520 --> 05:05:41,200
meet earlier and then later

7091
05:05:41,200 --> 05:05:44,400
>> I haven't either probably I think we

7092
05:05:44,400 --> 05:05:46,320
have to consider people that work during

7093
05:05:46,320 --> 05:05:48,160
the day.

7094
05:05:48,160 --> 05:05:51,120
>> Well we can do five Monday then break

7095
05:05:51,120 --> 05:05:53,760
for recess and go back and come back

7096
05:05:53,760 --> 05:05:55,280
because

7097
05:05:55,280 --> 05:06:00,628
>> Yes. Cuz that was fun. You're right.

7098
05:06:00,638 --> 05:06:02,798
» We we got we got

7099
05:06:02,798 --> 05:06:07,920
>> Mr. Chairman, do you intend to have the budget pass in a special meeting or

7100
05:06:07,920 --> 05:06:10,400
an adjourned meeting? If a special

7101
05:06:10,400 --> 05:06:13,280
meeting has to be specially noticed,

7102
05:06:13,280 --> 05:06:14,718
other words, we're just having business

7103
05:06:14,718 --> 05:06:16,718
on on Monday,

7104
05:06:16,718 --> 05:06:18,560
a special meeting

7105
05:06:18,560 --> 05:06:21,680
>> by Thursday with a with a notice for

7106
05:06:21,680 --> 05:06:24,160
next Thursday. Well,

7107
05:06:24,160 --> 05:06:25,600
I'm glad you touched on that again. My

7108
05:06:25,600 --> 05:06:27,760
intention was to have the budget up or

7109
05:06:27,760 --> 05:06:29,920
down and see where we stand on Friday by

7110
05:06:29,920 --> 05:06:32,480
having everybody propose a

7111
05:06:32,480 --> 05:06:34,798
move forward with a high level

7112
05:06:34,798 --> 05:06:37,440
discussion Friday and we see where we

7113
05:06:37,440 --> 05:06:39,840
stand and then eventually if we all

7114
05:06:39,840 --> 05:06:41,920
agree or with agreement majority

7115
05:06:41,920 --> 05:06:44,000
agreement we move it out to committee

7116
05:06:44,000 --> 05:06:46,240
and then we ask unanimous consent on on

7117
05:06:46,240 --> 05:06:49,840
the floor for one day. But I don't know

7118
05:06:49,840 --> 05:06:52,480
where we stand right now because we

7119
05:06:52,480 --> 05:06:56,320
still have outstanding stuff to me. I

7120
05:06:56,320 --> 05:06:59,520
favor to the finance team to give these

7121
05:06:59,520 --> 05:07:02,560
top 10 at the last minute. I expect them

7122
05:07:02,560 --> 05:07:05,520
to deliver a report to us.

7123
05:07:05,520 --> 05:07:08,000
So I ask that you please please

7124
05:07:08,000 --> 05:07:10,240
including myself. I have been very open

7125
05:07:10,240 --> 05:07:12,240
about my emails. I copy everybody by

7126
05:07:12,240 --> 05:07:15,280
email. Whatever my suggestion is, I ask

7127
05:07:15,280 --> 05:07:17,760
you to do the same thing cuz if we don't

7128
05:07:17,760 --> 05:07:20,160
if we if we come here Friday and we're

7129
05:07:20,160 --> 05:07:22,080
going to have to I'm going to have to

7130
05:07:22,080 --> 05:07:24,080
start making we're going to have to

7131
05:07:24,080 --> 05:07:26,400
start reserved dates from from tonight

7132
05:07:26,400 --> 05:07:28,400
or tomorrow

7133
05:07:28,400 --> 05:07:29,120
into next week.

7134
05:07:29,120 --> 05:07:31,280
>> We already have Friday schedule. So if

7135
05:07:31,280 --> 05:07:32,080
we're going to do anything at home,

7136
05:07:32,080 --> 05:07:33,280
we're going to have to schedule it

7137
05:07:33,280 --> 05:07:35,040
>> because we have the trade we need three

7138
05:07:35,040 --> 05:07:35,840
days.

7139
05:07:35,840 --> 05:07:38,400
>> Can we can we do that right now? Can we

7140
05:07:38,400 --> 05:07:41,040
suggest days right now? I'm going to be

7141
05:07:41,040 --> 05:07:42,798
cancelling. I figured I was going to

7142
05:07:42,798 --> 05:07:44,878
need next week. I am cancelling the

7143
05:07:44,878 --> 05:07:47,280
housing uh task force for Tuesday. It's

7144
05:07:47,280 --> 05:07:48,878
going to be later in November. I

7145
05:07:48,878 --> 05:07:50,320
mentioned it to Sam, but I haven't had a

7146
05:07:50,320 --> 05:07:53,680
chance to write that out yet. Um so we I

7147
05:07:53,680 --> 05:07:56,798
was trying to free up a night and so I

7148
05:07:56,798 --> 05:07:58,798
could do Saturday. I have to cancel

7149
05:07:58,798 --> 05:08:01,200
something, but I can do Saturday. I can

7150
05:08:01,200 --> 05:08:03,680
do Monday and I can do Tuesday.

7151
05:08:03,680 --> 05:08:06,240
>> That's the day.

7152
05:08:06,240 --> 05:08:09,440
I'll take Wednesday.

7153
05:08:09,440 --> 05:08:11,920
>> So it's about to be Thursday.

7154
05:08:11,920 --> 05:08:13,920
Well, there's going to be towards you

7155
05:08:13,920 --> 05:08:14,718
next hour.

7156
05:08:14,718 --> 05:08:17,200
>> So, we have Friday.

7157
05:08:17,200 --> 05:08:19,520
>> So, I mean, are people able to Well, I

7158
05:08:19,520 --> 05:08:21,760
know we have to ask Mr. Williams too,

7159
05:08:21,760 --> 05:08:25,830
but

7160
05:08:25,840 --> 05:08:28,638
» I I think we have, but that doesn't we

7161
05:08:28,638 --> 05:08:30,878
have to accommodate. So, we have to be

7162
05:08:30,878 --> 05:08:32,798
considerate of the final staff on

7163
05:08:32,798 --> 05:08:33,920
Saturdays.

7164
05:08:33,920 --> 05:08:38,628
>> Okay. Yes.

7165
05:08:38,638 --> 05:08:40,560
So

7166
05:08:40,560 --> 05:08:42,638
Monday and Monday Monday and Tuesday

7167
05:08:42,638 --> 05:08:43,760
workbook folks

7168
05:08:43,760 --> 05:08:46,798
>> whatever day we choose going forward now

7169
05:08:46,798 --> 05:08:49,360
we need the final fee

7170
05:08:49,360 --> 05:08:50,400
>> with us.

7171
05:08:50,400 --> 05:08:52,080
>> Mhm.

7172
05:08:52,080 --> 05:08:54,638
>> Why don't you schedule it for Saturday?

7173
05:08:54,638 --> 05:08:56,638
That's 3 days and then I'll be available

7174
05:08:56,638 --> 05:08:58,958
one day. Well, I think he's saying that

7175
05:08:58,958 --> 05:09:00,480
he doesn't want to necessarily have the

7176
05:09:00,480 --> 05:09:12,310
finan

7177
05:09:12,320 --> 05:09:15,360
» any of those days. Yeah.

7178
05:09:15,360 --> 05:09:18,320
>> I don't know get the call where you're

7179
05:09:18,320 --> 05:09:18,958
>> I know.

7180
05:09:18,958 --> 05:09:20,718
>> So, Friday, Monday, Tuesday. How about

7181
05:09:20,718 --> 05:09:29,750
that you guys? We're always schedu

7182
05:09:29,760 --> 05:09:30,958
and Tuesday.

7183
05:09:30,958 --> 05:09:35,350
>> Do we want to meet Saturday?

7184
05:09:35,360 --> 05:09:38,480
» We want to hear what you said.

7185
05:09:38,480 --> 05:09:40,560
So

7186
05:09:40,560 --> 05:09:42,320
first time we consider

7187
05:09:42,320 --> 05:09:45,600
>> Monday 5 5:30

7188
05:09:45,600 --> 05:09:47,120
>> Monday

7189
05:09:47,120 --> 05:09:51,680
5:30 and then we recess and we

7190
05:09:51,680 --> 05:09:53,360
>> go to council meeting

7191
05:09:53,360 --> 05:09:55,520
>> and then we'll reconvene right after

7192
05:09:55,520 --> 05:09:56,240
that.

7193
05:09:56,240 --> 05:09:56,958
>> Okay

7194
05:09:56,958 --> 05:10:00,560
>> that meeting and continue

7195
05:10:00,560 --> 05:10:03,120
>> if we happen to come to an agreement

7196
05:10:03,120 --> 05:10:06,000
Friday then we just disregard those

7197
05:10:06,000 --> 05:10:08,240
dates. question. Do we have to do a

7198
05:10:08,240 --> 05:10:10,480
notice for Monday if we're in recess

7199
05:10:10,480 --> 05:10:11,840
now? If we're just going to reconvene

7200
05:10:11,840 --> 05:10:15,440
Monday prior to our 7 o'clock meeting,

7201
05:10:15,440 --> 05:10:18,638
>> yeah, but we'll come in Friday anyway

7202
05:10:18,638 --> 05:10:20,240
because we have to give a notice.

7203
05:10:20,240 --> 05:10:22,240
>> We have to give public. This is being

7204
05:10:22,240 --> 05:10:24,400
set apart from the council meeting. We

7205
05:10:24,400 --> 05:10:26,878
have to give notice. I thought because

7206
05:10:26,878 --> 05:10:28,240
we suspect

7207
05:10:28,240 --> 05:10:30,560
>> and the thing the ordinance the budget

7208
05:10:30,560 --> 05:10:32,798
ordinance in the local that has to

7209
05:10:32,798 --> 05:10:34,480
already be on your agenda. You can

7210
05:10:34,480 --> 05:10:36,240
adjourn the meeting to vote on those

7211
05:10:36,240 --> 05:10:37,680
things, but they would have to be on the

7212
05:10:37,680 --> 05:10:39,840
agenda already for the meeting that was

7213
05:10:39,840 --> 05:10:40,718
announced.

7214
05:10:40,718 --> 05:10:42,718
>> You can always have a special meeting on

7215
05:10:42,718 --> 05:10:45,760
3 days notice dealing with the budget

7216
05:10:45,760 --> 05:10:47,520
and below the law if necessary.

7217
05:10:47,520 --> 05:10:49,120
>> So, you're saying the warning is here

7218
05:10:49,120 --> 05:10:50,560
for Monday's meeting.

7219
05:10:50,560 --> 05:10:53,040
>> If you want to just do a

7220
05:10:53,040 --> 05:10:55,360
>> as opposed to a new special meeting,

7221
05:10:55,360 --> 05:10:57,920
>> but I I basically

7222
05:10:57,920 --> 05:11:00,480
best let's see what happens on Friday.

7223
05:11:00,480 --> 05:11:01,360
>> I agree with that.

7224
05:11:01,360 --> 05:11:04,560
>> Yes. Good point. That's that's the

7225
05:11:04,560 --> 05:11:08,080
point. So, next Monday city council

7226
05:11:08,080 --> 05:11:09,600
meeting

7227
05:11:09,600 --> 05:11:12,000
you recess.

7228
05:11:12,000 --> 05:11:13,840
>> Well, let's see. Let's see what goes on

7229
05:11:13,840 --> 05:11:14,320
Friday.

7230
05:11:14,320 --> 05:11:15,840
>> But we need the 3 days, right? Don't we

7231
05:11:15,840 --> 05:11:17,520
have to have three-day public notice?

7232
05:11:17,520 --> 05:11:18,638
>> You're going to have your regular

7233
05:11:18,638 --> 05:11:21,600
meeting on Monday. If you are able to

7234
05:11:21,600 --> 05:11:24,638
get out the budget ordinance

7235
05:11:24,638 --> 05:11:27,840
on Friday and the local law on Friday or

7236
05:11:27,840 --> 05:11:30,560
Saturday by unanimous consent, you can

7237
05:11:30,560 --> 05:11:32,878
just add those to the agenda on Monday.

7238
05:11:32,878 --> 05:11:34,958
>> And if you don't vote on on Monday, then

7239
05:11:34,958 --> 05:11:37,280
you can adjourn the meeting or later in

7240
05:11:37,280 --> 05:11:39,520
the week before November 1st. Then it's

7241
05:11:39,520 --> 05:11:40,958
an adjournment meeting, not a new

7242
05:11:40,958 --> 05:11:41,760
meeting.

7243
05:11:41,760 --> 05:11:43,840
>> Can we

7244
05:11:43,840 --> 05:11:46,798
recess? But could we could we right now

7245
05:11:46,798 --> 05:11:49,760
so that we have enough notice and if

7246
05:11:49,760 --> 05:11:52,958
just in case we need Tuesday couldn't we

7247
05:11:52,958 --> 05:11:54,878
>> I think we I think the best practice

7248
05:11:54,878 --> 05:11:56,718
right now is just to see what happens on

7249
05:11:56,718 --> 05:11:57,680
Friday.

7250
05:11:57,680 --> 05:11:59,760
>> That's my recommendation.

7251
05:11:59,760 --> 05:12:03,760
>> What if we decid Monday still that time

7252
05:12:03,760 --> 05:12:06,798
>> for the committee meeting? Yes. So maybe

7253
05:12:06,798 --> 05:12:08,958
just have the committee meeting. you're

7254
05:12:08,958 --> 05:12:14,798
already coming here anyhow on Monday and you'll be working over, you know, on

7255
05:12:14,798 --> 05:12:15,840
Friday, right?

7256
05:12:15,840 --> 05:12:18,000
>> So, if you need to work with it some

7257
05:12:18,000 --> 05:12:20,718
more prior to the meeting,

7258
05:12:20,718 --> 05:12:22,638
>> um you can add that by unanimous

7259
05:12:22,638 --> 05:12:25,040
consent, the budget ordinance and the

7260
05:12:25,040 --> 05:12:26,718
local law.

7261
05:12:26,718 --> 05:12:28,638
>> But if we have to come at 5:30 on

7262
05:12:28,638 --> 05:12:30,320
Monday, don't we have to do a public

7263
05:12:30,320 --> 05:12:32,638
notice 3 days in advance?

7264
05:12:32,638 --> 05:12:34,718
>> Right. And for for the finance,

7265
05:12:34,718 --> 05:12:36,320
>> you can't count Saturday and Sunday, do

7266
05:12:36,320 --> 05:12:36,638
you?

7267
05:12:36,638 --> 05:12:37,920
>> So, yes. Oh.

7268
05:12:37,920 --> 05:12:41,360
>> So, so what I'm going to get then

7269
05:12:41,360 --> 05:12:43,920
is that Sam's going to send out a notice

7270
05:12:43,920 --> 05:12:46,240
that we're going to add

7271
05:12:46,240 --> 05:12:47,680
>> two more days.

7272
05:12:47,680 --> 05:12:50,480
>> We're going to add Monday reconvene at

7273
05:12:50,480 --> 05:12:52,240
5:30

7274
05:12:52,240 --> 05:12:54,958
recess city council meeting upstairs and

7275
05:12:54,958 --> 05:12:57,120
reconvene back down here and then

7276
05:12:57,120 --> 05:12:58,560
Tuesday 5:30.

7277
05:12:58,560 --> 05:12:59,200
>> Okay.

7278
05:12:59,200 --> 05:13:01,280
>> I'm going to place that place full

7279
05:13:01,280 --> 05:13:02,560
reserve those days. I think that's the

7280
05:13:02,560 --> 05:13:03,280
way to go.

7281
05:13:03,280 --> 05:13:06,240
>> I I'm not sensing a good feeling that

7282
05:13:06,240 --> 05:13:08,160
we're going to have something Friday.

7283
05:13:08,160 --> 05:13:09,040
>> We might.

7284
05:13:09,040 --> 05:13:10,080
>> Do you want to add Wednesday?

7285
05:13:10,080 --> 05:13:11,040
>> Nobody had hardly anything.

7286
05:13:11,040 --> 05:13:17,110
>> We can just for the sake of

7287
05:13:17,120 --> 05:13:19,360
» Yes. Wednesday.

7288
05:13:19,360 --> 05:13:22,798
>> I'm sorry. What? and Wednesday and

7289
05:13:22,798 --> 05:13:26,868
Wednesday

7290
05:13:26,878 --> 05:13:30,480
council. So you recess recess the uh

7291
05:13:30,480 --> 05:13:31,120
council meeting

7292
05:13:31,120 --> 05:13:32,320
>> council meeting

7293
05:13:32,320 --> 05:13:34,480
>> and you can reconvene like towards your

7294
05:13:34,480 --> 05:13:36,240
Friday

7295
05:13:36,240 --> 05:13:42,320
>> right if if those items get on by next

7296
05:13:42,320 --> 05:13:43,840
>> if they get on the agenda they have to

7297
05:13:43,840 --> 05:13:46,000
be on the agenda we'll reconvene the

7298
05:13:46,000 --> 05:13:48,638
meeting has to be otherwise you're going

7299
05:13:48,638 --> 05:13:50,400
to have to have a special meeting also

7300
05:13:50,400 --> 05:13:52,400
we need a special you need a special

7301
05:13:52,400 --> 05:13:55,040
meeting if you're maybe that's the way

7302
05:13:55,040 --> 05:13:56,400
you want to go and have a special

7303
05:13:56,400 --> 05:13:58,400
meeting for next Thursday or Tuesday or

7304
05:13:58,400 --> 05:14:00,560
whatever, you know, um and just have a

7305
05:14:00,560 --> 05:14:02,240
special meeting to to vote on the

7306
05:14:02,240 --> 05:14:04,000
budget. That way you may have a little

7307
05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:06,560
bit more time in between, you know, see

7308
05:14:06,560 --> 05:14:10,798
if things can be worked out.

7309
05:14:10,798 --> 05:14:12,638
>> We've done that before and we're like in

7310
05:14:12,638 --> 05:14:13,760
a special meeting when you let the

7311
05:14:13,760 --> 05:14:16,160
budget go. You want to go on.

7312
05:14:16,160 --> 05:14:18,240
>> Yeah. So you can do a special meeting.

7313
05:14:18,240 --> 05:14:18,878
>> Yes.

7314
05:14:18,878 --> 05:14:20,320
>> And and just do that and then you just

7315
05:14:20,320 --> 05:14:21,760
have you're just dealing with the budget

7316
05:14:21,760 --> 05:14:25,840
and the local law if necessary. Mhm.

7317
05:14:25,840 --> 05:14:27,840
>> So, so the charge we're taking here is

7318
05:14:27,840 --> 05:14:30,240
to make sure that we secure placehold

7319
05:14:30,240 --> 05:14:32,560
for the committee meeting days.

7320
05:14:32,560 --> 05:14:34,958
>> We look what happen, you know, what's

7321
05:14:34,958 --> 05:14:36,000
happening Friday.

7322
05:14:36,000 --> 05:14:36,638
>> Mhm.

7323
05:14:36,638 --> 05:14:39,040
>> And then we can say, okay, we need

7324
05:14:39,040 --> 05:14:41,040
Monday. So then we can say, you know,

7325
05:14:41,040 --> 05:14:43,440
there are a couple items need to to to

7326
05:14:43,440 --> 05:14:45,680
iron out. Then we can call the special

7327
05:14:45,680 --> 05:14:47,440
meeting Wednesday, right? Friday.

7328
05:14:47,440 --> 05:14:49,440
>> Wednesday's the one I I can't I mean,

7329
05:14:49,440 --> 05:14:51,360
I'd say Tuesday.

7330
05:14:51,360 --> 05:14:56,230
>> You can't Wednesday.

7331
05:14:56,240 --> 05:14:58,320
And actually Thursday Thursday Thursday

7332
05:14:58,320 --> 05:15:02,400
is the um is it is there's the county uh

7333
05:15:02,400 --> 05:15:05,840
dinner but

7334
05:15:05,840 --> 05:15:07,520
>> we got

7335
05:15:07,520 --> 05:15:12,638
can notice for the committee meetings

7336
05:15:12,638 --> 05:15:14,958
and possible

7337
05:15:14,958 --> 05:15:17,280
council meeting all at once.

7338
05:15:17,280 --> 05:15:17,760
>> Yeah.

7339
05:15:17,760 --> 05:15:19,680
>> Like one notice saying that that's what

7340
05:15:19,680 --> 05:15:22,000
the agenda is.

7341
05:15:22,000 --> 05:15:24,160
Yeah. Council meeting. Yeah.

7342
05:15:24,160 --> 05:15:26,878
>> Two notices or you know one notice with

7343
05:15:26,878 --> 05:15:29,600
two two meeting notices. One one with

7344
05:15:29,600 --> 05:15:32,160
the committee and council meeting

7345
05:15:32,160 --> 05:15:35,280
dealing with the uh adoption of the

7346
05:15:35,280 --> 05:15:35,760
budget.

7347
05:15:35,760 --> 05:15:39,520
>> Right. So so on day though it's I know

7348
05:15:39,520 --> 05:15:42,560
that you guys but if you come here 5:30

7349
05:15:42,560 --> 05:15:43,520
when time's the dinner started?

7350
05:15:43,520 --> 05:15:45,360
>> I don't know. I I'll forget it. I won't

7351
05:15:45,360 --> 05:15:47,440
worry about it. I just you know skinny

7352
05:15:47,440 --> 05:15:49,280
shares is actually one of the awardees.

7353
05:15:49,280 --> 05:15:51,600
If you're if you're voting on the budget

7354
05:15:51,600 --> 05:15:54,718
though that's already be working passing

7355
05:15:54,718 --> 05:15:56,400
usually that meeting less than half an

7356
05:15:56,400 --> 05:15:59,840
hour is tops that

7357
05:15:59,840 --> 05:16:02,080
>> then I will also be available on

7358
05:16:02,080 --> 05:16:03,680
Thursday.

7359
05:16:03,680 --> 05:16:06,320
>> So everybody's available on Thursday. So

7360
05:16:06,320 --> 05:16:09,680
>> I'm available Monday, Tuesday, Thursday

7361
05:16:09,680 --> 05:16:10,240
everybody.

7362
05:16:10,240 --> 05:16:11,680
>> So here let's do this one step at a

7363
05:16:11,680 --> 05:16:14,480
time. S please out for me. Uh the

7364
05:16:14,480 --> 05:16:17,040
committee is u we're meeting this

7365
05:16:17,040 --> 05:16:20,798
Friday. meeting next Monday and Tuesday.

7366
05:16:20,798 --> 05:16:24,080
>> Yes, special meeting on Thursday for the

7367
05:16:24,080 --> 05:16:25,920
>> hopefully we can do it before then, but

7368
05:16:25,920 --> 05:16:27,600
hopefully we can, but I don't know. It

7369
05:16:27,600 --> 05:16:27,920
is

7370
05:16:27,920 --> 05:16:30,320
>> Thursday.

7371
05:16:30,320 --> 05:16:32,718
Just saying.

7372
05:16:32,718 --> 05:16:34,240
>> Well, that meeting can always be

7373
05:16:34,240 --> 05:16:36,080
adjourned. It's not Thursday.

7374
05:16:36,080 --> 05:16:38,560
>> That's right. We don't need it. But just

7375
05:16:38,560 --> 05:16:40,958
this is our just in case just in case

7376
05:16:40,958 --> 05:16:48,708
the state be

7377
05:16:48,718 --> 05:16:54,070
I can sit here until tomorrow morning.

7378
05:16:54,080 --> 05:16:57,760
I just man

7379
05:16:57,760 --> 05:17:03,110
out because

7380
05:17:03,120 --> 05:17:06,160
motion motion to reset finance committee

7381
05:17:06,160 --> 05:17:16,948
second. All in favor?

7382
05:17:16,958 --> 05:17:19,680
Thank you very much.

7383
05:17:19,680 --> 05:17:21,920
>> Thank you. So

7384
05:17:21,920 --> 05:17:24,080
>> we already decided to do it. You need me

7385
05:17:24,080 --> 05:17:28,310
to break down some

7386
05:17:28,320 --> 05:17:32,200
» we'll be meeting later.