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right. Good morning. Um, all right. So,
here's what we're faced with this

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morning. Um,

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I I'm not going to try to go through all
the legal in in intricacies of this

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situation because I'm not an attorney.
Um, [clears throat]

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public notice was not given of this
meeting today.

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72 hours notice to the public that we're
going to be having a meeting, coming

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together, doing our thing, passing
things. There's arguments that we could

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have the meeting and it wouldn't be an
issue. There's arguments that we should

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not have the meeting.
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I tend towards leaning on the side of
being safe. I mean, we are a

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deliberative body. We are a committee of
the quorum court. Um, we are making

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decisions with the public's money. Um,
and I feel like

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they should have now we we did post it
on Facebook. We did do other things, but

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we just didn't make our typical meeting
notice that we normally do. I don't feel

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necessarily comfortable having the
meeting today. I know it inconveniences

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a lot of people. I mean, it
inconveniences me, you know, it

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inconveniences all of us, our elected
officials, everyone who's prepped and

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prepared and to be here today and to
talk about their budgets today.

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But I feel like
we deserve to do our duty by the public

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to do, you know, to uphold that.

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Questions from committee members. This
is not a committee meeting. We have not

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convened, but I'm just asking you for um
comments,

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thoughts.
>> Not be a working session.

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» I'm not
>> We don't We don't make any final

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decisions. We're just able to ask
questions, think about things

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that actually beic. We could ask our
questions and reconvene later to make

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our final decisions.
>> Yeah. Um I don't know the answer to

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that. I don't know. Let
>> me chime in, Mr. Chairman. And again,

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I'm not Justice Allison whose seat I'm
sitting in right now. My name's Alan

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Dodson, County Judge here. Uh, Chairman
Laoski, um, asked my opinion. We visited

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with [snorts] county attorney Phil
Murphy. You know, look, legal argument

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could be made. If you were if you were
looking at black letter law, we could

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make an argument that we could have the
meeting still complying. There would

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also be a legal argument that we did not
setting aside black letter law with

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where
our society is today.

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My advice to Chairman Laoski was laser
on the side of building public trust

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rather than giving a a public which
seems to have an appetite to distrust

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the government.
Let's heir on the side of building trust

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with them. And that is not a legal
argument. Um that's a reality argument

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with where we're at in society today.
And so my advice is appealing as it

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would be to have a working session.
Those are discussions that somebody who

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may choose to show up today, didn't have
the opportunity to would I mean just

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turn the TV on. I mean it is a blood
bath out there on social media.

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unfortunately, but I think this is an
opportunity to grab the moral high

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ground and say, "Hey, we're going to
approach this with great caution and uh

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just air on the side of full disclosure
and transparency." And so that was the

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advice I I applaud I applaud Tyler for
making a difficult decision to do that.

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I think it's the right thing to do.

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» Thank you, Judge.
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anything else?
I I hate that we're in the situation

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we're in. You know, I know I know we've
all made sacrifices to be here today and

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to and to get this work done and to do
it. Um, like I said, I think just to to

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heir on the side of transparency and and
safety and

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doing the best we can for the taxpayer
and the public. Go ahead, Johnny.

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So, chairman, if not today, when?
>> That's the next question. If not today,

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when? Because I don't think I I don't
think it works in people's schedules

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again, and I don't want to put it on
y'all to have to come back and to meet

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again and to take another day off work
and to be here all day again. Right? So,

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then we So, then we shift to evenings.
Right? Now, I'll say this. the um we've

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done a good job in the past. Um
these these committee meetings used to

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take place the first week of December
every evening in the first week of

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December. We pushed that up a month
because I didn't think it was acceptable

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to be passing our budget, you know, um
in December when we can do it in

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November and and have room to breathe
and not be on such a tight deadline. Um,

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we can we can look at evenings. We can
look at couple evenings like next week

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and a couple evenings the week after
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that's the next thing I want to talk
about was what kind of when the

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committee wants to meet. Um, I think we
can make those decisions, judge and

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attorney, we can make decisions on when
we meet outside of a public meeting,

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can't we? Okay. Um, so that's the next
thing. And then I was also also going to

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ask November 12th our or November 11th
our normal budget and finance committee

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meeting is um on Veterans Day. Really
just wanted to ask y'all's opinion if

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y'all wanted to meet that normal day or
not. I I'm um I mean most people are off

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work that day but we meet in the
afternoons or the evenings

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anyways you know. So comments questions
during the day.

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» No, just meeting the evening of the
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» The 11th.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah. Okay. So, y'all good with holding
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meeting on the 11th. All right. That
sounds good. All right. Uh so, if y'all

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want to, we can look at meeting the
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the 10th and the 11th to knock these
budgets out.

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» You're out of town on six. All right. I
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least three and I would love for
everyone to be able to participate.

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» What dates I'm sorry?
>> Uh let's look at fifth and sixth and

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10th and 11th.
>> Sixth is I won't be able to do. My son

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has a football game.
>> Okay. So you and you and Jake are out on

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the sixth. All right, that'll work.
>> Yeah, I can't do [clears throat]

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» Okay, Johnny's out Wednesday nights.

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We can do 10, 11, 12,
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Okay. Okay.
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10 11 for sure.
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» 10 11 13.

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» 131

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13.
>> Okay. Just codes.

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» Okay.

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» What's a good meeting time? Uh, Justice
makes 6 6 p.m. 6:30 6 p.m.

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» 6.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah. If you can clear clear 40 or
whatever, [laughter]

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[clears throat]
>> just have to show me the part of

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your responsibilities,
>> chairman.

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» I think that's fine. It gives
>> Okay. Okay.

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» 6 or 6:30 is
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at 6:30
and then we'll figure it out from there.

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If we need to meet more, we'll figure it
out. We hopefully we can get the budget

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passed by the full court meeting on the
18th would be the goal.

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» Yeah.

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Let me ask it one day completely off the
table.

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» I I know Justice Tyler is
>> booked at work.

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» Um

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» Okay.
>> Okay.

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Is this y'all good?
>> Okay. I appreciate y'all being here

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today. I'm sorry we couldn't do what we
normally do. I'm sorry we're airing on

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the side of, you know, public trust and
and and just trying to play our cards

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safe here today. Um to uh do our best
for the public in the roles that we

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serve.
Anything else?

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» Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we'll send out I'll
work with Randy. We'll send out

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something and we'll work we'll work
through that and we'll work you in where

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your availability is. Yeah, absolutely.
All right. Thank y'all. Not going to say

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meeting adjourned because we didn't have
a meeting.