1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,919 Welcome to the December 2025 regular 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:05,200 meeting of the Clemson Board of 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Architectural Review. My name is Todd 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,720 Howard and I serve as the chairperson of 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,480 this meeting. The other members in 6 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,920 attendance today will now introduce 7 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,719 themselves. 8 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:14,960 >> Nathan Shop, Hunter Hanahan, 9 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,160 >> Andrew Neptune, 10 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,359 >> Christine Tedesco. 11 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:18,960 >> The Clemson Planning and Codes office 12 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,640 staff member in attendance is Jacob 13 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Peabody. The recording secretary of this 14 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,680 meeting is Rebecca Wilbanks. BAR members 15 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,279 are appointed by the Clemson City 16 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:29,599 Council. The BAR's responsibilities 17 00:00:29,599 --> 00:00:31,599 focus on the design aspects of projects 18 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:33,520 located within one of the five 19 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,360 architectural overlay districts in the 20 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,600 city of Clemson. A copy of the agenda 21 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,280 for this meeting can be found in the 22 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,600 outside lobby. If you are a member of 23 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,879 the public and would like to speak 24 00:00:42,879 --> 00:00:44,640 regarding a matter on the agenda, you 25 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,480 will need to read and sign the speaker 26 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,559 form. On the back of the speaker signin 27 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:50,000 form is a list of things that fall 28 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 within the purview of the B and a list 29 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,320 of things that don't. You will be asked 30 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,320 for the signed form should you choose to 31 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,719 speak. Anyone speaking will be required 32 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,640 to stand at the lectern and there will 33 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,879 be no speaking from the audience. The 34 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:04,400 meeting will be conducted in the 35 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 following manner. For each agenda item, 36 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 the BA will hear a report from the 37 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,840 planning staff. After the staff report, 38 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,040 the applicant will be given an 39 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,640 opportunity to present their application 40 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,479 and demonstrate that it complies with 41 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:19,200 the relevant criteria. Any resident or 42 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,720 owner of a business or property in 43 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,320 Clemson is allowed to comment on the 44 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,560 application and provide feedback to the 45 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 BAR at each review stage. Speakers will 46 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 be given three minutes to provide 47 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,280 comments and feedback. Please consider 48 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,040 appointing a spokesperson if there are 49 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,280 multiple people wishing to speak. Please 50 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,640 do not repeat information already 51 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,960 presented by someone else. Questions 52 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,640 asked by the board during a presentation 53 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,960 will not count toward the time limit. At 54 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,119 its discretion, the board may allow the 55 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:47,439 applicant three minutes for rebuttal. 56 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:48,880 All comments and questions must be 57 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,799 directed to the chairperson who will 58 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:52,479 respond or direct the question to the 59 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:54,960 appropriate party for response. Any 60 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,479 written comments received by the 61 00:01:56,479 --> 00:01:58,320 planning office have been submitted to 62 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,320 the BAR and will be considered in its 63 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,399 decision. After all comments are 64 00:02:02,399 --> 00:02:03,920 offered, the chairperson will close the 65 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,600 hearing portion of the meeting and the 66 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,680 BAR will discuss and evaluate the 67 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,920 information presented in the context of 68 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:12,239 the requirements of the city code. We 69 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:13,840 ask that you please turn off all cell 70 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,000 phones or place them in silent mode. As 71 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,599 a reminder to board members, please 72 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:19,599 avoid side conversations and crawls 73 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,319 talk. Again, welcome to the meeting. And 74 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,080 then we'll have our board member 75 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,160 introduce himself. 76 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,959 >> Okay. So, um the first thing we need to 77 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:31,599 do is consider adopting the minutes from 78 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:34,400 last month's meeting. I'm at they were 79 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,280 solid as presented and so no changes 80 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,640 really needed to be made. Do I have 81 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,720 anybody that's willing to make a motion 82 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,319 to accept last month's meeting? 83 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:43,280 >> Some move. 84 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,160 >> Okay. Second. 85 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,640 >> Second. 86 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:46,239 All those in favor, please raise 87 00:02:46,239 --> 00:02:48,879 your right hand. Okay, minutes have been 88 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:51,120 adopted. Okay, action items. The first 89 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,879 action item is off the slate for the 90 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,519 night because that's no longer um up 91 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:57,120 before us. So, we'll start with action 92 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,720 item number two, 2025 A04. Applicant 93 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,879 Robert Kite Harris Teter is requesting 94 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,920 approval of dumpster location for 501 95 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:07,760 Old Greenville Highway. So, we'll hear 96 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,120 from Jacob to start. 97 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,159 >> Yes. So, the this was in front of the 98 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:14,800 board last month. They've come back with 99 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,400 more clear rendering showing what 100 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,640 they're doing. They went to investigate 101 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:20,720 whether or not the underground dumpsters 102 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,040 were viable for them and they've come 103 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 back with a standard dumpster and a 104 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,280 clarification as to grade and everything 105 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,760 showing where they'll be located. Um, 106 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,879 honestly, with that, I'm just going to 107 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:32,319 turn it over to the applicant to give 108 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:34,799 them presentation to where we're at. 109 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:36,080 >> Can you make sure you introduce 110 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,120 yourself? 111 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,000 >> Just me with committ. Um, yes, good to 112 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,599 see you guys as well again from from 113 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:43,440 last month. Uh so as we talked about 114 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,560 last month, I think there was a few 115 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,319 comments from you guys about the site 116 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:49,519 plans of moving the ice machine which we 117 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:50,879 moved to the other side. So you will not 118 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:52,480 see that in the renderings there. Um 119 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,920 additionally with the landscape plan, we 120 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,599 should have the renderings here. We 121 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:57,840 added in a few two rows of shrubs kind 122 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,599 of near the dumpster. Um there's a row 123 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,040 of the distilliums and then a row of 124 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,920 holl which will helpful greatly kind of 125 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,599 enhance the screening of that dumpster 126 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:09,519 from the road. Um Nathan asked 127 00:04:09,519 --> 00:04:10,959 previously to this meeting of what the 128 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:12,159 grade differential is. So if you're 129 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:13,760 sitting on 93 right here where that car 130 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,959 is, the elevation there is around 8:14. 131 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:18,799 The dumpster pad sits at the bottom 132 00:04:18,799 --> 00:04:21,280 around 807. So there is a 7 foot grade 133 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,120 difference from the top of the road to 134 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,800 where that bottom of pavement is. 135 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,919 >> And how tall is the 136 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:27,600 >> the dumpster screening wall is 6 feet 137 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,560 tall. 138 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,880 >> And then the shrubs specified are 4 feet 139 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:40,550 >> at planting. So, 140 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,160 » anything else you'd like to add? 141 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,600 >> No, that's I think those are pretty much 142 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,880 the main comments you guys had last week 143 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,160 and just here to answer any questions 144 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,040 you guys have. 145 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,600 >> Okay. Do we have any public comment on 146 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,639 this item? 147 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:55,280 >> Okay. So, any follow-up questions, 148 00:04:55,280 --> 00:05:03,430 comments, concerns? 149 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,000 a good solution. 150 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,800 As far as planting wise, I don't see any 151 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,479 issue with that. The massing should be 152 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:13,759 fine. Height should be fine. 153 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:15,680 Um, 154 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,600 I mean, they're going in at 4T. So, 155 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,000 you're already going to be a foot above, 156 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,639 you know, the fence. Down the edges, as 157 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,479 it slopes down the hill, you're going to 158 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:28,080 be a little bit um lower than the fence, 159 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,039 but within probably two growing seasons, 160 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:32,960 I don't see that being an issue based on 161 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,800 the plant they selected. 162 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,479 >> And remind me again, what color is the 163 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:38,720 enclosure going to be? 164 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,360 >> Dark brown. 165 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,960 >> Yeah, it's a dark brown. It's like a TX 166 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,568 board. Yeah, it goes around it. 167 00:05:42,568 --> 00:05:44,400 [clears throat] There was the plantings 168 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,080 that Nathan requested around the the 169 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,520 underground storage tanks as well that 170 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,039 separated there. So those plantings were 171 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:50,320 in there as well. 172 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,800 >> And they did continue the air machine. 173 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,880 They continued that landscaping right 174 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,400 between instead of having a gap between 175 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,479 the dumpster and the air machine, the 176 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:01,199 landscaping just travels right through. 177 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:03,360 >> And where the tanks are, they put plant 178 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,039 material around the gas tanks. Um Oh, 179 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:09,919 >> yeah. Buried. 180 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:16,950 Yeah. Would 181 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,600 » anybody like to make a motion that we 182 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,400 approve as presented? 183 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,120 >> Motion. 184 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,639 >> Anybody second? 185 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:25,120 >> Second. 186 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,400 >> All those in favor, please raise your 187 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,840 right hand. 188 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:32,880 >> Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. 189 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Anyone here for the first application 190 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,639 199 Old Reville Highway that has been 191 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:40,469 pulled off the agenda? 192 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:42,080 Okay. So, we're going to move to our 193 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,600 next item. 2025 A09. Applicant uh 194 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Mauricio Vizball LV Collective is 195 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,319 requesting approval of materials, 196 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,880 landscape, and lighting for 398 College 197 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Avenue. So, we'll hear from Jacob first. 198 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,639 >> Um so, there has been some significant 199 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:01,440 changes to the building. You can see how 200 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 previously basically the uh on building 201 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 400 the brick has been bringing up a 202 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,960 whole another level and I think has you 203 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,199 know really improved its look quite a 204 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:14,560 bit. They did on the uh building 398 205 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,639 they brought the detail work of the 206 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:18,319 brick around the back of the building. 207 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,319 So the soldier courses and the uh just 208 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:22,720 nicer detail that they went forward with 209 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,240 the um darker bottom. Um let's see. 210 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,599 Well, honestly, it's probably just best 211 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:30,880 I turn over to the applicant and just 212 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,560 let them move forward. 213 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,440 >> Okay. 214 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,199 >> Would you guys like to Yeah, 215 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:36,880 >> if you'll just introduce yourself before 216 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 you start. 217 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,599 >> Good evening. My name is Muhammad Wilson 218 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:43,199 Bolton representing the architectural 219 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,400 team that will be invisible with LD 220 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,240 Collective, the developer. Uh, and I 221 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 know Chris Lazar with Rwood Design Group 222 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,720 is just around the corner, so they'll be 223 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,845 joining us here in just a minute. Um, I 224 00:07:56,845 --> 00:07:59,440 [clears throat] could drop these uh just 225 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,599 on the two ends. We brought some 226 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:02,960 additional samples based on the 227 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,560 discussions we had uh I think last 228 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 month. 229 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Uh but yeah, we on the architectural 230 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,479 side of things, we really kind of 231 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:14,160 narrowed it down in our last meeting to 232 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,479 list a few items that we wanted to study 233 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:18,319 a little bit further. We had some good 234 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,160 discussions about the samples and the 235 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,479 colors and so I brought some samples to show with you today. The first item 236 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:26,960 was uh what Jacob was just mentioning. I 237 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,919 want to talk about the um College Avenue 238 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:33,200 facade for 400 College Avenue building. 239 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,599 Um the initial design, the first slide, 240 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:38,159 the initial design had it had the the 241 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,640 elevation kind of banded in almost like 242 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,519 three similar height material 243 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:45,040 transitions and I think there's some 244 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,959 comments about it looking more like a 245 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:49,200 having that wedding cake kind of effect 246 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,880 on the building. And so what we've done 247 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,040 is we went back, we've studied it and 248 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,360 we've raised the brick one extra level. 249 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120 And so on the next slide there, you show 250 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,959 I I do agree it improved the proportions 251 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:02,720 considerably. You can now see it as that 252 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,959 darker base with the storefront at the 253 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:06,959 commercial at the ground level. Three 254 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:08,959 levels of the red masonry, the sample 255 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:11,120 I've got down here at the bottom. Uh and 256 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,200 then a true cap for the building that's 257 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,040 only one story tall. So I think that was 258 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,279 a big improvement. 259 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,360 The next thing that we've looked at the 260 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,880 colors in general, we had a lot of 261 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,320 discussions about the fiber cement 262 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,000 colors. We had three different colors 263 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 proposed for the project. I think the 264 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,680 renderings have kind of shown them a 265 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:29,120 little bit different from some of the 266 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,640 color chips. And so we spent some time 267 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,160 on these few renderings that we brought 268 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,240 with us really trying to dial it to 269 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,720 match the samples. I've got with me here 270 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 the three colors. Uh I'll pass those 271 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,360 around that we have proposed. You can 272 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,839 see all three of them on on this uh on 273 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:44,880 this perspective [snorts] view here 274 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,519 which is looking down Strod Avenue. The 275 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:49,839 light color, the white at the cap of the 276 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:52,160 building is the is this sample right 277 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,600 here, the Arctic white. Uh, and the 278 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,480 midtone gray is that sample on the very 279 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,279 right uh of this sample right here. 280 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:03,519 That's what you see surrounding the 281 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:06,080 surrounding, um, language where we have 282 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,040 the wood accents on building on 398. 283 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,040 Exactly there. Thank you. And then the 284 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,200 cap for building 400 as well. That's 285 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 that kind of midtone color. Uh and then 286 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,839 we've got this darker this darker color 287 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:20,160 here, fiber cement. That's uh where we 288 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,839 have some accents like the inset that 289 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:23,279 you're seeing there. So throughout the 290 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,440 facades, you'll see we're alternating 291 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,240 between these three colors. Uh we had a 292 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,760 lot of discussions, good discussions 293 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,959 last week about or last month about the accent wood panel that we're using 294 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:39,040 and uh how it relates to the fiber 295 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,800 cement panel that surrounds it. And so 296 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,000 we went back and actually made some 297 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,399 changes to this color selection to find 298 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:45,680 something that worked a little bit 299 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,240 better with this uh with this wood 300 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,320 accent color. Uh so you're seeing what 301 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,920 we passed around here. They're they're 302 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,839 the same they're same uh samples come 303 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:56,480 from both directions. We talked about, 304 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,800 you know, looking at different options. 305 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,200 We did get a few additional samples, did 306 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,800 looked at some options, but we ended up 307 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,320 backing, you know, right where we 308 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 started with this one being the what we 309 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,079 feel is the better color for the 310 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:09,920 project. It works better with the better 311 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,640 with the overall palette. It blends well 312 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,600 with uh some of the accent colors that 313 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,440 we're using with the with the heartscape 314 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,880 and the decking that we're using at the 315 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,040 amenities. And so we've kind of, you 316 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,640 know, we wanted to bring a few samples 317 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,279 just to show you, but we're we're 318 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,360 proposing that we stick to the original 319 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,880 selection here, especially with the way 320 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,120 it works now with the axom fiber cement 321 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,720 that we have surrounding it. 322 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,079 >> Is that the hickory color? 323 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:36,160 >> That is correct. Yeah, it's it's a 324 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,240 little bit more muted. The other ones 325 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,240 are a little bit more on the orange 326 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,079 tones and we dialed that down on the 327 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:43,360 renderings a little bit because it 328 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,440 showed very orange last month when we 329 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,079 met and so now we've kind of we did a 330 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:50,000 better match to that uh color that we're 331 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,680 selecting. Uh on the next slide I think 332 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,680 we have a couple of zoomin views. 333 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:00,000 Uh this is building 400 showing that 334 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,240 added level of of masonry and kind of 335 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,720 how it helped the overall proportions of 336 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 the building. I'll pass these colors if 337 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,720 you would like. These are the three 338 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,760 fiber cement accents. Uh and then the 339 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 next slide, 340 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,560 it goes back and looks at the facade for 341 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,040 uh 398 College. This is the entry to the 342 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 leasing office. And really what what's 343 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,519 different about this this rendering here 344 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:25,200 compared to what we've seen is we've got 345 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,440 the colors to match a lot better the 346 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,360 samples that we're passing around now. 347 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,079 So it got a little bit more neutral. I 348 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:33,920 think I think in the some of the 349 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,839 renderings we showed you last month, the 350 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:37,839 colors had gotten a little bit too warm, 351 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:39,600 almost brown, and that was not the 352 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,760 intention. We were going for this 353 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,160 neutral grays, and that's what you see 354 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,000 passing around. Uh the base of that uh 355 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,839 of what we're calling the the treehouse 356 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:51,680 on the on the left side of the screen 357 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:54,480 there. The base, as Jacob mentioned, we 358 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,560 went with the darker accents. We took 359 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,160 the wood out of it. We had some wood 360 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,399 accents and I think there was strong 361 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:02,720 recommendation from from the board last 362 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,639 month to stick to the gray and let the 363 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:06,160 wood accent be where we have it around 364 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,480 the windows and that's what we've done. 365 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,720 Uh, next slide shows a perspective view 366 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,399 of it. Again, just kind of puts it all 367 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:14,320 in context. You're seeing the College 368 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Avenue facade there and the storefront 369 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,399 where we have the leasing and the entry 370 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:20,800 and the commercial space. So, that kind 371 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,600 of all puts it together uh with a better 372 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,600 color match to the samples that you uh 373 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 that you've got in your hands. 374 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,629 Next slide. Um, 375 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:34,800 oh yeah. So this uh this is the back of 376 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,440 the building now 398. Uh we have talked 377 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,920 about uh there was positive feedback 378 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,680 related to the brick detailing and the 379 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,760 articulation that we provided along 380 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,880 College Avenue. We we were advised to go 381 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,639 back and take another look at the back 382 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:50,480 of the building and see if we can add a 383 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,639 little bit of that details uh that 384 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:55,120 masonry detailing. And so you can see 385 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,800 here on that this is a zoom in 386 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,040 perspective that we didn't have last 387 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,639 time. We just wanted to zoom in so we 388 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:02,079 can show some of the details and that 389 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:04,240 little sliver of the elevation there. 390 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,959 You can see that we introduced uh um at 391 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:09,040 the very top we introduced a rollock 392 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,199 course uh and a soldier course under it. 393 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:12,880 So kind of gives it a little bit of a 394 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,120 termination at the top of the masonry. 395 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,760 We've got the soldier course and the and the roll locks around the windows. 396 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,320 And we also introduced a continuous band 397 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,800 at the masonry below the lowest level uh 398 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,600 lowest residential level uh windows. And 399 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,560 so it really it kind of it does some of 400 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,839 what we were trying to achieve at the 401 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:33,040 front of the building. It just gives it 402 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,800 a little bit more detail. It dresses it 403 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,560 up a little bit and in a sense it kind 404 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,240 of helps break the scale some with all 405 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,240 the banding that's being proposed. So 406 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,199 that was that was this slide here. 407 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:45,600 Uh and then this again kind of puts it 408 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,535 all kind of zoomed out. This is the 409 00:14:47,535 --> 00:14:49,120 [clears throat] the full College Avenue 410 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,800 frontage there. You can see how it all 411 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,120 comes together. I think with the added 412 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,160 brick on on building 400 there, it kind 413 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,000 of started to put the overall massing 414 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,600 and the composition a little bit more 415 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,680 consistent between the two buildings, we 416 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 knew we didn't want to have a, you know, 417 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,199 a repeat of the same architecture that 418 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,279 we're using, but more or less we wanted 419 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,120 the same language and same materiality. 420 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,279 And I think that helped kind of get the 421 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,399 scales to be a little bit more uh uh 422 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,639 consistent and matching between the two buildings even though the scale is 423 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,560 slightly different. 424 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,760 Um and I think that's really it for the 425 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,320 architectural slides. I know past this 426 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,000 point we've got a few more slides that 427 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,839 we had from last month that we needed to 428 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:33,760 reference. Uh, we've got the 2D 429 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,519 elevations as well if you all have any 430 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,519 questions, but it was really kind of 431 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:40,320 more of just trying to really zero in on 432 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,240 the actual materials and put it all 433 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,160 together to make sure that it it it 434 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,519 blends and it works well. Um, so happy 435 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:49,120 to answer any questions. [clears throat] 436 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,920 Uh, I know Chris is is here. We can we 437 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,920 can jump into right landscape. And 438 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,560 >> I I just have one quick question. Accent 439 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,320 to the left of these windows here. Is 440 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,000 that the same as over here? 441 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,639 >> That's correct. 442 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:01,839 >> Okay. because some of these pictures 443 00:16:01,839 --> 00:16:03,040 aren't exactly the same. I just want to 444 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,320 make sure those are supposed to be the 445 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:04,720 same. 446 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,639 >> Yeah, they're same. And I think maybe 447 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:09,279 what we had done was we we kind of 448 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:10,959 doctorred some of it on the large 449 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:13,040 building to match this and maybe we 450 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,759 missed doing that on the 400, 451 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,440 >> but it's intended to be the same. 452 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,440 >> Just a procedural question. Should we 453 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,199 ask for public input just on the 454 00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:23,440 materials and architectural expression? 455 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,279 >> That is I mean it's one really 456 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:27,199 application. You can split up if you 457 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:29,519 want, but it's probably best to ask for 458 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:31,920 it in total. I think 459 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 >> is really one application. 460 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,519 >> Does anybody want to bring up anything 461 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:37,360 while it's fresh in their heads tied to 462 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,440 the color choice and the detailing? 463 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,959 >> I think it looks a lot better raising 464 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:47,110 that bridge. 465 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,639 » What is the crowning element at that final story on building 400? that 466 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:54,880 it will be. So the top level of the cap 467 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,800 is a fiber cement panel and so what 468 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,079 we're going to have at the very top is 469 00:16:58,079 --> 00:16:59,920 going to be a coping. So it'll be a 470 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,000 metal coping that would extend down and 471 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,279 just kind of have a little bit of a 472 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:05,199 termination edge at the very top. Is 473 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:06,559 that what we're talking about? Yeah. 474 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,160 >> Yeah. I mean it honestly looks I see 475 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,000 some sort of like verticality within 476 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,199 that hatch pattern. 477 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:13,760 >> Oh, there's a weird printing or 478 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,240 something. 479 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,679 >> Yeah. So this is really more of the 480 00:17:15,679 --> 00:17:17,360 reveal patterning that we're doing on 481 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:19,360 this. So like in typical field condition 482 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,120 where we have the fiber cement panel, we 483 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,360 really have uh we have two main 484 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:24,959 conditions. We have the board and batton 485 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:26,319 and that's what we're using where we 486 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,200 have some of the white uh the lightest 487 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,880 white color. We have the board and 488 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,480 battons and that helps kind of break the 489 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,240 scale, makes it give it more of a 490 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,640 residential feel. Uh and then with the 491 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,480 rest of the fiber cement panel, normally 492 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,559 those come in sheets of 4x8 and so you 493 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,640 would have kind of reveals at the at the 494 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,039 transition from panel to panel. on the 495 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:46,880 front on College Avenue here, we just 496 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,320 kind of introduced a slightly more 497 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,320 elevated pattern related to that re to the reveals. So, instead of it just 498 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,799 being the regular reveals, you know, 499 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:56,720 every four feet, we've done something 500 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,559 that breaks it, gives it a little bit 501 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,039 more detail where it fronts uh College 502 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:02,400 Avenue. And that's kind of what you're 503 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,039 seeing below the metal coping further 504 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:06,960 down you're seeing some of those reveals 505 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,480 start and stop. We're trying to come up 506 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,559 with an interesting compositions with a 507 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:11,760 prominent facade. 508 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,720 >> Sure. Yeah, I get that. The coping 509 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,120 itself is is solid metal. Yes. 510 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:18,080 >> Coping. Okay. 511 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,080 >> Yes. It would be a metal metal coping. 512 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,919 And that would only be that would only 513 00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:24,320 be at the top of the parapit. And 514 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,840 usually you would have a leg that kind 515 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 of extends down 46 in or so. 516 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,240 >> Okay. It just looks like something more 517 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:30,640 unique. 518 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,200 >> Almost like a soldier or 519 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,280 >> Yeah. Or some sort of wood. 520 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,880 >> I think it's just one 521 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,120 >> like the rendering 522 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:40,320 of it. 523 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,360 >> And I agree the brick work is nice. I I 524 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,520 think that's a nice a nice improvement. 525 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,280 >> And we went like Jacob said with the 526 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,559 dark face to the tower. 527 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:52,799 >> That's correct. Yes. Yeah. Uh and one thing to point out, you know, where 528 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,559 the plan is and Chris will talk about 529 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:56,320 this a little bit more where we have to 530 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,640 amenities on 398. We're kind of going 531 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,720 with like that that decking that's got 532 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,480 the same texture and color. So, we're 533 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,400 going to be doing a match to that to 534 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,480 help blend it. So, really what we've 535 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,400 done is we've taken the wood accent away 536 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,360 from the base. And I think to a certain 537 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,360 degree that helped kind of float that, 538 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,960 you know, element that we're 539 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,120 celebrating. But then we'll tie these 540 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,799 color palettes again when we have the 541 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:21,280 decking at the at the very at the very 542 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,280 bottom. Yeah. There like here it still 543 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,360 shows this kind of lighter orange colors 544 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:26,880 that we had from last time because I 545 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,240 know when we were putting this together, 546 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,840 we were still coordinating on the 547 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,799 landscape side. Uh but we we do actually 548 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:34,240 have the material here that you'll see 549 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,720 in a little bit. Uh and it's a it's it's 550 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,480 more of a match to this. So it kind of 551 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,960 ties it all together. It's not going to 552 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,600 be that light light orange color that is 553 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,950 shown here right at that amenity level. 554 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,230 » Thank you. 555 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,919 Jump into landscape before we 556 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:03,190 go. 557 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,760 » Um do you want to report out at all 558 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,600 before they present? Do you want to 559 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,039 report out at all before they report on 560 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:09,440 landscape? 561 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,000 >> No, I'm just happy to go right into it. 562 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:27,270 Go through all the changes been made. 563 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,059 So that set has it. 564 00:20:32,069 --> 00:20:32,640 [clears throat] 565 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,480 >> Forgot my magnifying glass. 566 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:57,830 I think you have it on glasses. 567 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,919 » Just when you get ready, just introduce 568 00:20:59,919 --> 00:21:01,840 yourself before you start presenting. 569 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:09,830 Thank you. 570 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Good evening. Uh I'm Chris Lazich with 571 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:13,919 Ironwood Design Group. Um we're the 572 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,640 landscape architects for both projects. 573 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,799 Um we kind of did a quick run through 574 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,640 because there wasn't enough time for the 575 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,360 landscape review prior to last month's 576 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:26,320 meeting. So we understood that the 577 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 smaller plans that were requested are 578 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 harder to see. So, we sent full-size 579 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,799 prints in and took the time after our 580 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:35,280 last run through to meet with Nathan in 581 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,280 person to review the plans and have 582 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 picked up those comments, the the 583 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,679 feedback and tried our best to address 584 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:44,720 those. Um, which you'll see reflected in 585 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,880 the digital and the prints that you have 586 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,240 in front of you. Uh, starting with the I 587 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,600 guess we can start with the south 588 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,440 building in the hardscape. Um, as you 589 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280 might recall, there's a couple main 590 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,960 materials that we have along the 591 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,679 streetscape. Um, the sidewalk, if we're 592 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:07,510 on page 1.1s, 593 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,919 the main sidewalk you see is the city 594 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:13,200 standard with the new U tree grates and 595 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,080 the stamped concrete bands that you see 596 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,679 coming off that are designated as P2 597 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:22,799 for the bands. and HO2 is the the new 598 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,720 city updated standard for the tree 599 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 grates and just a regular broom swept 600 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,400 concrete. As you transition from that 601 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,320 10-ft sidewalk, um what's designated as 602 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,600 H I'm sorry, uh PO4 is an etched 603 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,760 finished concrete. This is a higherend 604 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 finish of concrete that has some specs 605 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:45,200 and some different aggregates. So 606 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,440 there's a contrast that is the main 607 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,159 field you'll see and it's represented by 608 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:53,200 um this material here is 609 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,799 you want to pass that around at the main 610 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:58,720 entrances for both buildings. We'll 611 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,840 touch on this one first is PO7 which is 612 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,520 our pre-cast concrete PA. Um we had 613 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,679 presented this briefly with the warm 614 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:10,960 tones uh at our last meeting uh that go 615 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,480 and uh accommodate what is shown on the 616 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,640 building. We also brought some other 617 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,640 alternate color selections that we can 618 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,520 pass out if you know the tones um if 619 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280 there's comments or you want to see what 620 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,240 the other options are available. 621 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,960 Um the main uh planter walls that you 622 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,039 see is the terracing which is designated 623 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:35,760 as HO3 and runs uh along the street is a 624 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,039 board form concrete uh planter with 625 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,039 joints. It's a gray tone and it's 626 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:44,080 represented by this. So that will be all 627 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,240 of the the planter walls that are um 628 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,400 that vary in height. They wrap the 629 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,640 corner as you can kind of see um 630 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,440 the HO3 on the corner and then it turns 631 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,559 up the street and we the leasing and 632 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:02,080 retail entrance is about uh 2 and 1/2 ft 633 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,159 taller than the street and the street is 634 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,720 sloping up from left to right. So those 635 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,480 planters come down in height as the 636 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,640 grade of the street um comes down. But 637 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,279 you'll see a couple courses. Uh it's a 6 638 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:16,240 in uh pattern for the board. 639 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,600 This is the wall. 640 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,520 >> This is the vertical wall. Yeah. And the 641 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880 top will just be a clean uh concrete. 642 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,640 >> Same color. 643 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,279 >> It's formed. 644 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:31,919 >> Uh we do have uh railings uh on as we go 645 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:35,520 down to L1.2. We have a cable railing 646 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,679 system. It's just a black. I did bring 647 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:40,559 metal samples um that show it, but it's 648 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:43,520 a wire cable um railing guard rail where 649 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,440 it's needed. Uh it's designated as uh 650 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:53,110 H31 651 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,120 and that's the cable railing. It'll have 652 00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:16,070 black posts which are 653 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,480 pass. This is the closest match I had 654 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:25,350 missing. Um, it's on the next page. 655 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,950 Yes. 656 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,679 » Yes. Thank you for pointing that. L6.1 657 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,760 shows the character image for the style 658 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,909 of ring. 659 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:40,880 And then we have uh just the the viper 660 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,200 racks that we're showing uh along there 661 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,799 are designated as H04. It will also be 662 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:48,880 black to match and it's shown on I 663 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:58,870 believe 6 uh one detail 19.0 664 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,480 » 6.0 [clears throat] 665 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:18,950 I'm sorry. 666 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520 And just to point out a couple things as 667 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,640 we come along to 1.3. 668 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,120 Um the only thing we're showing is we 669 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:28,880 wanted to point out is that the sidewalk 670 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,720 at the city's request has been flipped 671 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,360 to the alternate side of rigs. So the 672 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,919 only thing you're seeing is as far as a 673 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:38,559 hardcape is just a regular concrete uh 674 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,559 sidewalk that gets you out to rigs for 675 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:44,880 life safety egress uh reasons. 676 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,279 And on 1.4 Four, 677 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,440 there was a request during the meeting 678 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,400 to reconfigure the fire lane to allow 679 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,480 for more buffer that we'll talk about in 680 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,880 the landscape uh as you come down the 681 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200 hill from the neighborhood. So, we've 682 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,440 addressed that and that's designated as 683 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000 shown in the hex uh the hexagonal uh 684 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,400 pattern. As before, it kind of ran along 685 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,960 the property line to the north. This 686 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,880 allowed us to create more landscape 687 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,039 space and to screen that because as 688 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:16,159 you're coming down the hill that's a 689 00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:18,559 prominent view. Uh so getting the 690 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,640 mixture of evergreens and we'll talk 691 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,159 about that in the landscape but it helps 692 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,840 us to buffer that back side of the 693 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,559 building. 694 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,000 >> So also just little input there are 695 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 transform I think transformers there 696 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,400 >> and so we had to have so much clearance 697 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,559 for the transformers which prevented us 698 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,600 from having screening right against that 699 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,400 area anyway. So that that was the basis 700 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,000 for that recommendation. Uh as well 701 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,600 >> and that's going to be a grass pave. 702 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,679 There's a concrete apron. So it'll just 703 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:49,760 appear as a lawn space. It's not going 704 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,889 to be an exposed concrete or asphalt. 705 00:27:52,889 --> 00:27:56,789 [clears throat] 706 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,360 U moving to is there any questions so 707 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,080 far? 708 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,399 So on the front walkway, front steps, I 709 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,760 see you have this material here on the 710 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,320 top. 711 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,960 >> That's right. 712 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,720 >> What is the is it coming to the first 713 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,440 riser? 714 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:15,840 >> Yes. 715 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320 >> And if so, how is that turn down being 716 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,640 dealt with? Are you just seeing the edge 717 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,840 of this material or what does that riser 718 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,240 profile actually look like? will have a 719 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960 tread on grade like a top riser that the 720 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,799 PA will butt into. So there will be a 721 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,200 flush tread at the top to signify the 722 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,480 beginning of the stair. 723 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,919 >> Okay. 724 00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:39,360 >> Out of this concrete. 725 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,789 >> That's right. 726 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,600 » And then kind of moving to the lighting 727 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840 plans which are designated by the five 728 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,880 series drawings. 729 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,345 Um, 730 00:29:00,355 --> 00:29:01,120 [clears throat] 731 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,919 we had in the the print, and I 732 00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:05,440 apologize, we have a full sight 733 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,360 photometric that was distributed to the 734 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360 team. It doesn't look like it's in this 735 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,960 electronic uh submission, but it shows 736 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,320 the all of the light levels at the 737 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,120 property lines around. Um, we showed 738 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080 light fixtures and the character image 739 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960 and the specs for those um, in the 740 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840 schedule on the top right and what those 741 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,679 look like. We did get some comments 742 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:35,600 about directing the uplights on 5.1 743 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,559 in the treehouse area away from the 744 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,120 right of way. You'll see that we have 745 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000 the city standard Duke power fixture 746 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,399 spaced evenly between the trees along 747 00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,960 the street on College. 748 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,919 And as you go up uh strode circle on 749 00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:53,840 both projects 750 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 and then we have up lights which are 751 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,080 designated by um the circular in the 752 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,080 planters for uplighting the trees. Those 753 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,500 are in grade 754 00:30:06,510 --> 00:30:07,360 [snorts] 755 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520 >> you can see in this document the uh 756 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,640 sidewalk has been added on this coming 757 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,279 up stro to bring a better pedestrian 758 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,440 route from rigs to stroke. Thank you, 759 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,610 Jacob. Yeah, I forgot to touch on that. 760 00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:20,240 [clears throat] 761 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520 >> Could I just add real 762 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,440 the way that terminates where Rick 763 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,159 starts, it seems a little sha seems a 764 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:29,600 little shallow. Should we have a little 765 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,080 more of a landing? 766 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760 >> Yeah, because you're going to stop there 767 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,080 to wait for traffic. 768 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,640 You know what I mean? Like, does that is 769 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,880 that comfortable? 770 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,191 That little slice right there. 771 00:30:43,191 --> 00:30:44,399 [clears throat] Should it kind of curve 772 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:47,200 a little bit? Um, well, we don't want to 773 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120 direct people down rigs. They're going, 774 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320 this is a sidewalk right here across. 775 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,679 >> I think the main problem I have with 776 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:55,039 that intersection is you have those 777 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,559 slanted spots. Even if those are 778 00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,200 pulling, you know, temporary parking for 779 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760 ride share or or food delivery. When 780 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,360 they pull out, they're going either up 781 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Rift or upstroke. How are they going to 782 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,640 get out of there? They're either turning 783 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,480 around somebody's driveway or going all 784 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,080 the way around circle. 785 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:10,799 >> Yeah. 786 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,320 >> Is that big enough to put a rotary in 787 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480 there? Like a onelane rotary. You think 788 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,240 that would keep traffic from going up 789 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,559 Rigs or Strode? Because college kids are 790 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,000 just going to go up Riggs and turn 791 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,360 around in somebody's driveway. They're 792 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,159 not going to go all the way around. 793 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:25,600 I was thinking about that. I drove by 794 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,679 there the other day for a one-way lane 795 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:28,720 rotary. It might fit. 796 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,320 >> That's a good idea. And that the parking 797 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,760 topic you're bringing up was brought up 798 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,840 during the planning commission's review. 799 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,360 And it might have I forget who it was. 800 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,519 It might have been the commissioner, but 801 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,200 the lead, but he they had talked about 802 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,039 making those perpendicular spots so 803 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:42,559 there wasn't the kind of encouragement 804 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:44,080 to pull back out and head up bridge. 805 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,519 >> Well, I'm hoping even if you just pull 806 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:46,799 off the side, it's still facing that 807 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,080 way. You're not going to turn around in 808 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,120 the middle of the road. You're just 809 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,480 going to turn around somebody's driveway 810 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,240 and there's enough traffic. 811 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,440 >> I mean, this is going to cause enough 812 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440 people going up that way anyway. I'd 813 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,720 like to see some way where they could 814 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,840 turn around [clears throat] before 815 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,080 trying to make that option. 816 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,880 >> Have that option. 817 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,480 >> We did talk about dedicating some 818 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,039 parking spaces within the parking deck. 819 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,200 for for deliveries and Uber and and 820 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,760 pickup. 821 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,640 >> Yeah, I mean we 822 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,360 >> that doesn't 823 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,279 >> we could ultimately [clears throat] just 824 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:12,000 get rid of these. 825 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,919 >> Uh one thing with the ride share um I'm 826 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,200 up Earl Street. I have a business up 827 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Earl Street and the you the Uber or the 828 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,320 food delivery and ride share, they know 829 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,559 where to pull off. Nine times out of 10, 830 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,640 the person blocking the road is a family 831 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,720 member or friend dropping off people to 832 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,320 get in and out and they it's pretty much 833 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,600 every day you'll see a car just park 834 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760 there like 10 20 seconds, but they park 835 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,880 in the middle of the street, let people 836 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,279 in and out. So, you do see a lot of 837 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:36,960 friends and family that are going to 838 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440 utilize that. And I I'm pretty sure 839 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,559 they're going to come up here and try to 840 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:41,919 utilize it there. And that's the one I'm 841 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:43,200 worried about turning around people's 842 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,320 driveways. 843 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,039 >> Yeah. I would like to discourage 844 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:48,880 >> any unnecessary traffic into a 845 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,760 residential neighborhood. 846 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,039 >> If you could fit a one lane rotary 847 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:56,159 there, I mean, it's it would be tight. 848 00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:58,880 >> I'm I'm not sure about the rotary. We 849 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,399 can we look at it up. I would be 850 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:04,159 inclined to do away with the parking as 851 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:07,840 well. I don't I mean it's it's 852 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,440 every little bit counts. I get it. But 853 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,039 it's a it's really awkward. Think about 854 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,440 a pedestrian walking down there. You're 855 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,679 just going to skip over the the parking 856 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,919 or the sidewalk cuz it's just cuz it's 857 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:20,640 funky jog to it. Just be a lot cleaner 858 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,480 without it 859 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,559 like getting the need for drop offs and 860 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,799 well which that is not but you know a 861 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,360 drop off space for Uber 862 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,600 >> and what have you. But So you're saying 863 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,360 instead of 864 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,200 >> just [snorts] take a walk straight down 865 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,720 instead of using the sidewalk. 866 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,279 >> Yeah. 867 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:38,000 >> Goes around 868 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,120 >> or maybe two parallel spots it' be only 869 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,240 10 ft and the sidewalk could come into, 870 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,760 you know, wouldn't be so far out there 871 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,200 as 872 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,760 >> Yeah. 873 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,279 >> I think in real world what's going to 874 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:50,480 happen is they're going to pull down the 875 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,159 street anyways and just stop in the road 876 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:53,919 and let people on and off and then drive 877 00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:55,279 up and turn around someone's driveway 878 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,279 where go around stroke. people are going 879 00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,519 to go up there to pull off. And 880 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,360 >> so is it better just to do two parallel 881 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,080 then 882 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,919 >> do parallel and three parallel we can 883 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,600 fit but I'm more worried about them 884 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,208 still facing that direction and heading 885 00:34:08,208 --> 00:34:11,839 [clears throat] up towards the road or 886 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:13,919 >> I don't think we have the room to do a 887 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,599 perpendicular 888 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,480 >> without taking out the trees that are 889 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,919 over there. Well, if you look at the 890 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:24,560 grading lines, that 32 inch pine is 891 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,599 technically already gone because they're 892 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,560 showing the grading lines 893 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,320 being stacked up and and manipulated and 894 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760 printed very very lightly. 895 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,879 But in reality, that 32 inch pine's 896 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:43,839 gone. 897 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:44,800 >> Uh that's 898 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,720 >> I think they're leaving that that grain 899 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:50,720 as is. That would be it's been updated. 900 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,359 I think what you're seeing from that 901 00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:57,109 >> save those ones 902 00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:58,400 right here 903 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,079 >> that 32 inch pine. Yes. 904 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,720 >> I mean there's a lot of great change. I 905 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,800 don't know how they're doing that. 906 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,839 I I think existing what the the intent 907 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,320 from the civil engineer was that they 908 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,240 could get this sidewalk in as it was and 909 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,560 maintain that grade that's existing just 910 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,310 dropping off. 911 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480 » That was the width of Stro currently 912 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,839 wider. 913 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:31,829 >> Yeah, they're going to take you out of 914 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,160 wing in that creek, right? 915 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Um 916 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:43,270 yes to an extent. 917 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,359 » Um we can flip to the landscape on 8.1 918 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:51,280 uh to kind of talk about this area. 919 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,119 Um so we have the the creek area that's 920 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,280 being uh maintained and uh protected. Um 921 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520 we are rerouting obviously some of the 922 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,599 streams that are on the project and one 923 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:05,599 is coming under the building that you'll 924 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:09,839 see um on the branch on the right. We 925 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:12,560 had presented our plans in November and 926 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,960 as I said we had a chance to meet with 927 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,760 uh with Nathan and Jacob up at the 928 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160 office and the [clears throat] 929 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,880 suggestion was to create more tree add 930 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,960 more trees create a a denser uh planting 931 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,760 a mix of overstory and understory which 932 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,280 we think we've done a a good job of uh 933 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,240 strengthening that. We've also been able 934 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,640 to save the 28 in oak which was the 935 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,960 comment. So we've got that in. There's 936 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,640 an existing wall there that's going to 937 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040 remain. That's kind of how it is today. 938 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,359 So that tree will stay on on the corner. 939 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,119 So you're seeing a total of four of the 940 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,839 existing large trees that are staying. 941 00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,079 And then we're supplementing uh with 942 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,599 selected species both at the north end 943 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,800 of this plan and along college. So 944 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,960 you'll be higher on the street looking 945 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,839 down toward the treehouse, the deck, and 946 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:08,880 the the creek area. So mostly native and 947 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,000 adaptive plant um pellets. We took some 948 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,520 of the suggestions that we went over 949 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,079 in person and picked those up. 950 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,800 Uh we have uh American elms as the 951 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,480 street tree. I don't think we got a 952 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,240 comment on that. They're currently 953 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,320 spaced at 954 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,320 basically 40 ft. There's some where 955 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,240 they're a little bit closer to align 956 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:38,150 with the building and the entrances. 957 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,190 And then moving to 8.2, 958 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,240 the continuation of the streetscape 959 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:50,480 uh on the plan uh plan east side. We 960 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,599 have uh existing wall that is graded 961 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:55,440 between the adjacent property that is 962 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,359 going to be um rebuilt and we're 963 00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,359 reveating that area. I think one of the 964 00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:03,520 comments we got from November was what's 965 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,760 going on in this area. So we have now 966 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640 shown there is a sidewalk. It only goes 967 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040 down to the stair. It doesn't continue 968 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,359 to strobe to create a I think comment 969 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,640 was a walkth through. Um, so it just 970 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,320 very it just goes down to the plan to 971 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,920 collect a stair tower and get people 972 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 safely out to college. Uh, and then we 973 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,800 are supplementing and screening that 974 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,119 wall. We have some turf areas and some 975 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:32,630 foundation uh, evergreen plantings. 976 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,400 » I got one question. This is more for 977 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,640 Nathan. Um, Nathan, these American elms 978 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,480 are going to be the ones on College A. 979 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:38,960 >> Yes. 980 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,480 >> Um, are you guys using those? What is 981 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640 it? The Corona street grates for tree 982 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,440 grates for that? 983 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,680 >> Yes. Um, are those the same trees we 984 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,200 have going up in front of the churches? 985 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Because all those grates are this high 986 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,280 up. You know, after a couple years, even 987 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,640 in front of back streets when we did the 988 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,160 streetscape, that tree we had to take 989 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400 down pushed the grade up about that 990 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,079 much. You you've seen the problems we 991 00:38:58,079 --> 00:38:58,640 had. 992 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,920 >> Yeah, these are going to have that 993 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:00,240 problem 994 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,359 >> in silver cells. 995 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:01,839 >> Excuse me. 996 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,280 >> These ones are going to be planted in 997 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,160 silver cells. 998 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,200 >> Okay. So, we're not going to have that 999 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,400 problem 10 years down the road. 1000 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640 >> Should not. And there should be with the 1001 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,560 sila cells. I'm guessing there's also a 1002 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,320 chemical root barrier 1003 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,599 >> as well. 1004 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:15,760 between the sidewalk. 1005 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,040 >> Um, 1006 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,720 >> yeah, we go believe we've engineered 1007 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,680 around that. 1008 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,920 >> Um, the only the only comment I have on 1009 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,507 this page is the size that those 1010 00:39:28,507 --> 00:39:29,920 [laughter] the tulip poppplers are going 1011 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,880 to go in on the right. Um, I would just 1012 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,560 put a straight sodine because and just 1013 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,880 let that natural succession of shade out the grass. Okay. But having 1014 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,640 this wavy sodline for five years down 1015 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,200 the road just doesn't make sense. 1016 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,240 >> Sure, we can do that. 1017 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,240 >> I would just straighten that. Okay. 1018 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,520 >> And thank you for your suggestion. 1019 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,320 >> Uh going to 8.3. 1020 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640 Uh you'll see the continuation of where 1021 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,359 we added the additional trees. A comment 1022 00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:07,119 that we received this morning that we 1023 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,480 addressed is the density of the planting 1024 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,400 screening along the evergreen planting 1025 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,400 along rigs. Um we have supplemented that 1026 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,440 uh and suggested uh using a mixture of 1027 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,240 evergreen giant arborite with the shade 1028 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,240 trees behind and then broke it up with 1029 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,160 the crypto area. Um and we continue that 1030 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,480 on to 8.4 to create an evergreen buffer 1031 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,280 and then have a backdrop of of a canopy 1032 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,160 tree behind it. And as you see on 8.4, 1033 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400 we've got the evergreen screen with some 1034 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640 shade trees in that triangle that we 1035 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,320 talked about when we reconfigured the 1036 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:54,870 fire lane. 1037 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,230 » Any questions? 1038 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:05,430 We can look at the north building. 1039 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,359 So the only question I have is based on 1040 00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:09,040 the renderings 1041 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,160 like if you look at the architectural 1042 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,400 rendering page one there is a like I 1043 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,319 know we can't comment on the interior 1044 00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:23,280 courtyard that's inside amenity but 1045 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000 there is green plantings on the top of 1046 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,560 that building that I don't see anywhere 1047 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920 on any of the plans. Yeah, I I I don't 1048 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560 have those plans in front of me. It is 1049 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,560 um I think we took the suggestion that 1050 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,880 you had for the planner. It's uh the 1051 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,359 green um 1052 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:43,599 uh 1053 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,839 what did we put there? I can pull it up 1054 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:48,319 and get you that information. I don't 1055 00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:50,960 have that plan. It's a It's a evergreen 1056 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,240 hedge [clears throat] that softens that 1057 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,960 guard rail behind it. and they're in a 1058 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,599 two foot by two foot planter system like 1059 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,359 a 1060 00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:02,079 >> because I don't I don't remember ever I 1061 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,520 don't think I ever commented on it 1062 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,319 because I don't 1063 00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:06,640 >> no there was a a plant selection comment 1064 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,240 and I apologize don't remember 1065 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:14,630 you had made 1066 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,560 » so I would just want to know what that 1067 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,950 is so 1068 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,319 is there something that you would like 1069 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:24,079 to see from 1070 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:25,359 I would just like to make sure it's 1071 00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:26,400 maintained. 1072 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,680 >> Yeah. 1073 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,990 >> I just don't 1074 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 » I mean that could be fine. I just don't 1075 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,720 know what's up there. So I don't want to 1076 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,800 recommend something 1077 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,720 that's 1078 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,640 I don't know what I'm recommending 1079 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,839 against. 1080 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:47,200 >> Sure. The the intent is a trimmed narrow 1081 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,240 hedge like that will be maintained 1082 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,470 evergreen. 1083 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,160 So it be like it will be manicured like 1084 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,880 trimmed down and 1085 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,040 >> That's right. Yeah. It's a vertical 1086 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,119 compact. Um 1087 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:02,720 >> I mean as long as you have drainage up 1088 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,160 there and irrigation. 1089 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,319 >> Yeah, we have irrigation and drainage. 1090 00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:09,920 It sits in uh a planter system with a 1091 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,800 drain to the uh slab system 1092 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040 >> and it's blocking a railing. 1093 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,119 >> There's a railing that's set back 2 ft 1094 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:18,480 from the parapit edge. 1095 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:18,880 >> Okay. 1096 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,800 >> So that's creating a green buffer. So, 1097 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,160 it's a wellness deck, 1098 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,560 >> okay, 1099 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,079 >> that's going up there. It's just 1100 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,640 pedestal pavers uh with some planter 1101 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880 pots that are back. You don't see them. 1102 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,359 And then it's got a perimeter uh 1103 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,880 fabricated GFRC or um fiberglass planter 1104 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,200 system that sits back behind. And then 1105 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,119 the evergreen hedge sits up above the 1106 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,400 parapit and you have the guard rail uh 1107 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,079 behind that. 1108 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,480 >> I mean, it would be easy to put, you 1109 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,480 know, a U up there. 1110 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160 That's along I was trying to get the 1111 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,800 exact spec. 1112 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,560 >> I mean like a Duke gardens you or 1113 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,720 something like that. Super easy to 1114 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,200 maintain 1115 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,640 >> and that's along the lines. I just 1116 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,000 didn't want to speak and tell you one 1117 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,119 thing and be another. But that's the 1118 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,040 design intent is exactly what you're 1119 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,510 describing. 1120 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000 » So just so the board knows all of the 1121 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,880 comments that I had made were taken into 1122 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,400 consideration. 1123 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,119 Um, one of the big things was removing 1124 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,040 like the wildflower 1125 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,079 proposed like wildflower meadow mixture 1126 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:25,839 in the floodway. Um, that is not going 1127 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:28,640 to be a successful long-term element 1128 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,760 just due to maintenance. Um, 1129 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,720 and so that was a big element. Um we, 1130 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,560 you know, they have just sort of a 1131 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,800 monoulture in there that I think even if 1132 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,680 it does flood, even if it does wash, 1133 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,440 it's going to bounce back. Not going to 1134 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,000 be an issue. Ornamental grasses will 1135 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,520 provide a high high density fibrous root 1136 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,480 system. So once established 1137 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,599 um I do have a question Jacob whether 1138 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,240 the success rate of the seating the 1139 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:08,720 hydro seating is there an expected 1140 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,119 outcome or success rate of the hydro 1141 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,040 seating if a certain percentage is not 1142 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880 >> yes so of every square [snorts] 1143 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,400 foot 70% has to germinate for us to sign 1144 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,839 basically sign off on it 1145 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:22,079 >> so before they get co you actually have 1146 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,599 to have germination if not then they 1147 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:24,800 have opposed to bond. 1148 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,760 >> Okay. Thank you. 1149 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,359 >> Going back to the rooftop, the plant 1150 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:34,480 plants on top. Is there is it right next 1151 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,599 to the edge? How much room is there 1152 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,319 between that plant on the rooftop and 1153 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:41,440 the edge of the building? 1154 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,760 >> So, I think we're set back 2 feet. 1155 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,240 >> Yeah. 1156 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,359 >> Two feet. Okay. 1157 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:45,920 >> Yeah. 1158 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,240 >> Just for safety purposes. 1159 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,960 >> And yes, there's a guard rail for safety 1160 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,800 behind it. It's not the planter we're 1161 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,480 counting on for the 1162 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,480 >> Yeah. So, your guardrail will be 1163 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,960 standard height 42 in for a fall 1164 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,880 protection. Then you'll have a twoft 1165 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,119 where there's a planter and then you 1166 00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,119 have a raised slightly raised parapit 1167 00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,800 that you see in the renderings. 1168 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880 >> So, the all you're going to see is the 1169 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,440 hedge above the parapit and maybe the 1170 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,839 top rail and some glass. 1171 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:16,319 >> Okay. I've not seen a rail like this. 1172 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,400 >> Yeah. So, just for clarification on 1173 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,280 L-6.1, 1174 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,920 the uh item number seven, the 1175 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,280 rectangular planter. Is that the 1176 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,040 fiberglass planter that's going up 1177 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,599 there? 1178 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:30,800 >> That's Yes. 1179 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,200 >> Okay. So, it's just a series of those. 1180 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,079 >> Yes. Modular. Yes. They're all standard 1181 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:36,480 size. 1182 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,000 >> What's all drained, all irrigated? 1183 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:50,550 And the spec I just pulled it up is 1184 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,240 we have a prostrate rosemary right now, 1185 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:58,319 but we can uh switch it to the Hicks uh 1186 00:46:58,319 --> 00:46:59,200 view. 1187 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,880 >> No, the Duke Gardens. 1188 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,839 >> Duke Gardens. 1189 00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,760 >> Yep. Hicks is too tall. 1190 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:10,150 >> Okay. 1191 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,069 Duke Gardens U 1192 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,560 and the plural is on gardens not on 1193 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,880 Dukes 1194 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,800 >> and that can be trimmed and stay healthy 1195 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,359 like that 1196 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:22,000 >> 100%. 1197 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:29,670 >> Okay. 1198 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,280 » I have a question. And I'm just curious 1199 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:37,040 on L61 number eight cabana scenic. Is 1200 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,560 that on the rooftop? 1201 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,160 >> Yes, it's set back. You don't see it 1202 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,480 from the street. 1203 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400 >> Is that reference 1204 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,880 >> to L54S? 1205 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,480 >> It is on 5.5. 1206 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,040 >> So that's not included. It's the amenity 1207 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,839 deck. 1208 00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,920 >> Okay. 1209 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,359 >> Yeah. You don't see it in the renderings 1210 00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:00,480 or anything. It set back a good 40. 1211 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,688 >> Wondering where it was. Okay. 1212 00:48:02,688 --> 00:48:07,510 [clears throat] 1213 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,960 » From way back there, you might see. 1214 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,560 >> I do have a question. The the string 1215 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,119 lights that are up there that are shown 1216 00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,960 on this plan, 1217 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,359 >> they're in the courtyard only. 1218 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:19,680 >> But it's still a rooftop courtyard. 1219 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,599 >> No, the courtyard is on the back side 1220 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:25,280 and it's on grade. It's wrapped. 1221 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,480 What you see on on 8.4 4 1222 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,079 >> or 5.4. 1223 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,319 >> Yeah. Or 5.4. 1224 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:35,280 That is behind the amenity deck is on 1225 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,270 the top of the structure. 1226 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,440 » So there's two there's an amenity deck 1227 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,839 on level eight and there's a ground 1228 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:46,559 level courtyard on B1 that's wrapped by 1229 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:47,920 the building. 1230 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,800 >> This one here. 1231 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:49,440 >> Okay. 1232 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,440 >> So where's the plan for the amenity 1233 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,440 deck? because that is visible 1234 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,870 from adjacent. 1235 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,559 I mean, not if you're on the sidewalk 1236 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,079 below the building. 1237 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:04,720 >> Well, the amenity deck is set back a 1238 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,040 good ways. Like there's uh I forget the 1239 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,680 dimension. 1240 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,640 >> It's going to be like Yeah. over 30 ft 1241 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,920 from the face of the building. 1242 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,359 >> Yeah. You're not really going to see 1243 00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:14,400 that from anywhere. 1244 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,760 >> Okay. Yeah, that's that's 30 ft from the 1245 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,599 high barit. And then you've got the 1246 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,599 detail projections at the ground level. 1247 00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:23,760 So from the 1248 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,760 >> the detail is sitting even more than 1249 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,760 that. [clears throat] 1250 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,200 >> This is not from a realistic 1251 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,400 perspective. It's as if you're flying. 1252 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,079 >> So yeah, so the amenity deck is 1253 00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,400 essentially on top of the pre-cast deck. 1254 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,280 So it's 1255 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,760 >> okay 1256 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,839 >> behind the units altogether. The roof of 1257 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:41,599 the units, the wood construction doesn't 1258 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:48,230 have any amenities on top. 1259 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,680 We do have three trees up there. They're 1260 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,304 sweet base. 1261 00:49:57,314 --> 00:49:59,520 [clears throat] Those will bake, but 1262 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,160 they might work. 1263 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,480 That's going to be hot. 1264 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,119 >> Yeah, they might. 1265 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,319 >> That's a good plan to show 1266 00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:07,040 >> right here. 1267 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,800 >> Yeah, 1268 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880 it's kind of in the center of the 1269 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,280 building, 1270 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,520 right above the pre-cast construction. 1271 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Yeah, it's just that lower bay of the 1272 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,240 parking there like Yeah. from the 1273 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,960 midpoint and then it's set back away 1274 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,359 from the face of the building, right? 30 1275 00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:25,760 ft. 1276 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,599 >> So, can you tell us what dimensions 1277 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,200 those are and what square footage that 1278 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,880 deck is roughly? I'm just curious. 1279 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,720 >> Yeah. So, it's sitting it's sitting on 1280 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,160 top of a of a pre-cast uh of one of the 1281 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,319 two bays of the pre-cast. So, the depth 1282 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,800 of it is going to be right around 60 ft. 1283 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,520 Okay. 1284 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,400 >> And then the it runs the entire length 1285 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,960 of the parking deck, but you know, maybe 1286 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,119 a little over a third of that area is 1287 00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,559 actually like an amenity clubhouse. Um, 1288 00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,839 so I I can probably do actually uh the 1289 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:05,440 matrix if you have the matrix open. Um, 1290 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,280 so we can we can tell you like so like 1291 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680 it's essentially it's the if you look at 1292 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160 the pre-cast deck, it's the bottom half 1293 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,720 of it that runs all the way through. 1294 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,079 So 60. 1295 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,000 >> Yeah, it's about 100. I was going to 1296 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,319 >> 6,000 square feet is the is the amenity 1297 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:21,760 deck. 1298 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,559 >> Okay. Well, he said 60 or 1299 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,520 >> six 6,000. 1300 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,280 >> Yeah, it's a 60 60 ft by about 100 ft. 1301 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,599 >> Okay. All right. Thank you. 1302 00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,720 >> And that's that will be closed. We that 1303 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,079 was talked about earlier, right? Closed 1304 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:41,599 at a certain time at night. 1305 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:43,040 And there's a sound wall and everything 1306 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,960 to prevent the noise from going to the 1307 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,240 neighborhood and everything. And it's so 1308 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:56,069 high up 1309 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,160 » and then touching on the the north 1310 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,800 building quickly. It's less scope. Um so 1311 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,760 we should be able to to get through it. 1312 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:15,270 Um starting with uh 1.1 N 1313 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,960 combine all one document. 1314 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:27,430 >> Oh okay. It might be first then. 1315 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480 So picking up the same uh language as we 1316 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,920 have along college with the city 1317 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,920 standard streetscape, the 10-ft 1318 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,839 sidewalk, the tree grates with the 1319 00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:38,640 stamped concrete bands. We also pick up 1320 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,359 with the etched concrete at the the 1321 00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:43,520 private the retail area which you're 1322 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,839 seeing again is PO4. There is an ongrade 1323 00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:49,440 planter cutout which is what you're 1324 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,880 seeing in the void there. that will 1325 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,640 house two uh understory trees uh that 1326 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,200 frame that that the shape the street 1327 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,800 tree there. Uh we have bike racks at the 1328 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,280 corner for for the retail. 1329 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,920 As we wrap around Strode, we go to a 1330 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,720 5-ft sidewalk. Um and then we have a an 1331 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,119 etched concrete connection to the to the 1332 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:16,000 building. And at the leasing main 1333 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,119 entrance designated as PO7 is the PA 1334 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:25,990 that we um that we passed along. 1335 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000 And on the north side, the next page is 1336 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,319 the same thing with the PA going to the 1337 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:36,160 building connection and bike racks in 1338 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:46,230 front and some in the back. 1339 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:50,240 Uh for the lighting on 5.1, 1340 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,640 we've got up lights the same uh that 1341 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,720 we're using um for the south building. 1342 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:00,160 And then we've got tree up lights on the 1343 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,800 private side for the uh trees along 1344 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,599 Strode Circle. 1345 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,880 And that continues to the second page. 1346 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,119 So all the trees are on private property 1347 00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,079 will still will be uplit um and service 1348 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:15,760 the 1349 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:27,510 trees along stroke. 1350 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,000 And then flipping to uh the north 1351 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,160 landscape 8.1 1352 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,790 north, 1353 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440 we've got um basically the sidewalk at 1354 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,480 the the back of code 1355 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,599 on strode uh mixed with some some 1356 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,839 layered landscape and the the trees we 1357 00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:53,510 discussed in the lawn that are up with. 1358 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,359 and you feel comfortable about the 1359 00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:57,200 maintenance of the tulip poppplers along 1360 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,880 that road and the 1361 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,880 and them against the building. 1362 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,680 >> Um, as far as uh the maintenance of 1363 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,119 them, I I think that that they're a good 1364 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:12,079 selection given [clears throat] the 1365 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,640 space that we have. Um, 1366 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,079 >> I mean, based on they're a 40 foot wide 1367 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,880 tree and they're 10 ft from the 1368 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,640 building. 1369 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,839 I thought we had the the Arnold 1370 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,400 specified there doing that. 1371 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:34,309 >> It's not specified on on 7.1. 1372 00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:36,480 And you also have the form folded 1373 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,800 ground. So that could have been a 1374 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,079 so you may want to 1375 00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:44,079 >> Yeah, I think um we would probably 1376 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,240 select that to the upright upright 1377 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,040 version of that unless the the board has 1378 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,520 a a preference something they'd like to 1379 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,829 see. we can consider. 1380 00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:57,760 » No. So, what I'm talking about is along 1381 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,240 the rigs, those tulip poppplers, 1382 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,079 >> they're, you know, I just don't see them 1383 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:04,319 being maintained unless they wanted to 1384 00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:07,040 do like a pleach tree, which would be, 1385 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,520 you know, you know, very nice, you know, 1386 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,520 kept sort of European style, but I don't 1387 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,839 see I just see it getting butchered and 1388 00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:19,839 then finally removed over time. So, uh, 1389 00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:24,240 the only one that I think could possibly 1390 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,799 stay as the, 1391 00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:29,680 uh, standard tulip popppler would be the 1392 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,319 fourth one back cuz it's further away. 1393 00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:36,799 >> Yeah. And also on the north corner. And 1394 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:38,640 on the north corner, that one could 1395 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,454 probably be nudged slightly 1396 00:56:41,454 --> 00:56:42,480 [clears throat] 1397 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,000 uh 1398 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,280 to, you know, a little 1399 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,280 uh east 1400 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,880 southeast 1401 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,920 uhish. And so 1402 00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,720 that one could also stay as a standard tulip popppler. But I 1403 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,280 would just check those symbols 1404 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,960 is even 8.0 zero has a different symbol 1405 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,160 shown on the plan. 1406 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,040 >> Yeah, I saw that comment that looks like 1407 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,599 that sheet it's addressed in the plans 1408 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,319 that reference plan. 1409 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:27,750 We love we align that [clears throat] 1410 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,799 and then just scroll up to the uh 1411 00:57:32,799 --> 00:57:36,390 the drivethru. 1412 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,480 So that is a sidewalk turning 1413 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,960 norththeast 1414 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,559 into 1415 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,640 that sidewalk goes and turns right 1416 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,280 there. Is that correct? that there is a 1417 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,319 path there, 1418 00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:51,670 >> okay, 1419 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,680 » that takes you to the backside. And then 1420 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,920 we've got a ramp because we've got the 1421 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,920 wall along right at the property line 1422 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,839 where we can't landscape for the 1423 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:06,710 pharmacy. 1424 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,000 area. One other thought is back by the 1425 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,200 parking, you have pretty large beds of 1426 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,359 the mounding 1427 00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:17,040 variety. 1428 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,599 Uh it might be 1429 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,720 more aesthetic and better to use this 1430 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,520 picata, the spreading variety, just to 1431 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,720 fill that in. 1432 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:44,549 >> Sure. 1433 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,359 So along along the strode side of the 1434 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:49,280 north building, 1435 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,280 the idea is keeping the tulip popppler 1436 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,319 at the turn end and then at the further 1437 00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:57,599 end corner. 1438 00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,319 >> You could say four and six. 1439 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:04,240 from the intersection with uh with 1440 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,359 college 1441 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:08,240 >> and what would you recommend elsewhere? 1442 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,599 >> They're going to still use a tulip 1443 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,839 popppler, but it's going to be the uh 1444 00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:14,480 variety Arnold, which is an upright, 1445 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,160 which they have specified in other 1446 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:23,829 locations on the project. 1447 00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:26,079 » Yeah, we have it on the the south 1448 00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:29,200 building. I think that is a clerical 1449 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,480 error on the plant selection symbol. Um, 1450 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,079 apologize for that, but yes, that should 1451 00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:35,920 be an upright. We can consider having 1452 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,920 the the larger ones where you had 1453 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:54,870 indicated. 1454 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:01,876 There any other questions that answered? 1455 01:00:01,886 --> 01:00:10,710 [snorts] 1456 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,119 » As far as I'm concerned, he's taken a 1457 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,839 lot of the feedback 1458 01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:17,599 in place. 1459 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:19,760 >> Um, 1460 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,680 I know we had public comment submitted. 1461 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,520 Do we have any other pop public comment 1462 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,960 in addition to that? Okay. How do we 1463 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,480 want to handle the public comment that 1464 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,119 was 1465 01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:30,559 >> open up to the public comment at this 1466 01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:33,280 time and see? 1467 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,200 >> But the one that was emailed to us. 1468 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,319 >> Everyone get a copy of it. 1469 01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:36,640 >> Yeah. 1470 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,559 >> You have a chance to review. 1471 01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:43,910 >> Okay. 1472 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,359 » I mean, as long as we're addressing the 1473 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,880 drainage and by the creek up to take the 1474 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,720 handle, I don't think we have a problem. 1475 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,559 >> Yeah. The drain is not the The per the 1476 01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:59,200 city storm war manager have reviewed and 1477 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,789 tenatively approve it pending army corp 1478 01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:07,680 » and then evergreen in the back side of 1479 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,839 the north building. So that was spoken 1480 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:10,240 to. 1481 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,839 >> Yep. That got dealt with 1482 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:14,000 >> sidewalk was spoken to. So from me from 1483 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,920 what I can gather and correct me if I'm 1484 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,160 wrong as I was taking notes. I think we 1485 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,240 need to return to just clear up the 1486 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,760 green along the treehouse tower part. Um 1487 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,160 and then the parking situation along 1488 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,839 Strode 1489 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:31,680 and those are the two big things that 1490 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,240 stood out to me. 1491 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,319 >> I I still think I still think if there's 1492 01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:36,720 feasible since you guys do own the 1493 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,760 property on the side where the north 1494 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,359 building is, if it's feasible to put 1495 01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,839 some kind of a turnaround in there um 1496 01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:43,920 and not lose the pull off on the side 1497 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,240 here for uh for dropping off and picking 1498 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,559 people up. But I just don't really I'm 1499 01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:50,160 not comfortable with pushing that much 1500 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,160 traffic up to the side streets or even 1501 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,920 around Strode 1502 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,000 >> those turn around in the driveway right 1503 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:56,319 there. 1504 01:01:56,319 --> 01:01:58,079 >> Um that's still pulling in pulling out. 1505 01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,240 I mean you could or you can just put if 1506 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,920 you do a rotary if it could fit there. 1507 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,440 You lose some of that north building 1508 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,200 though. I mean it depends on how much 1509 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,440 room you have there. You you'd have to 1510 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,880 go and take a look at what we actually 1511 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,000 have there. Um 1512 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,520 but I think that would help out a lot if 1513 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:19,910 we could fit it. It's that's That 1514 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,520 looks like pretty good. You have this 1515 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,160 side here which is coming up and then go 1516 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,960 around like that. So you lose these two 1517 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,263 corners but you lose the other 1518 01:02:29,263 --> 01:02:30,480 [clears throat] road here. You get the 1519 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,480 center here. Just put traffic around 1520 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:38,549 this one lane. So you go here. 1521 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,240 That's if you can fit it. I've seen I've 1522 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,680 seen down on the coast. I've seen some 1523 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,160 small ones in in uh developments down 1524 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400 there, retirement homes that actually do 1525 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,319 fit in here, but they're, you know, not 1526 01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:50,079 really made for high traffic. 1527 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,559 >> If it's frustratingly small, it might be 1528 01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,240 something to disincentivize people to 1529 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,118 cut through. 1530 01:02:56,118 --> 01:02:56,319 [laughter] 1531 01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:58,720 >> Just drive right over the middle. 1532 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,240 >> Well, I mean that that's we would 1533 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,760 probably have to have it as like a roll, 1534 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,880 you know, roll curve. 1535 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880 >> Yeah, we could drive over it if we need. 1536 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,319 >> Well, they have those down on the coast 1537 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,000 and retirement communities that are 1538 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,119 pretty small. We can recommend the Take 1539 01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:11,520 a look at 1540 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,240 >> take a look at a fire truck. 1541 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,480 >> It does a fire truck get through there. 1542 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,079 But like I said, you can do things with 1543 01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:22,000 like a basically a bump drive over. But 1544 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,839 >> I'm not positive there's enough room. 1545 01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:26,400 >> Yeah, that does not look 1546 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,720 like 1547 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,880 >> take if you take that off the table, 1548 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,440 what do we say? What do we see going on 1549 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,559 here in terms of parking? 1550 01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,640 I mean you need a place to pull off or 1551 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,559 drop off picked up and they said they 1552 01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:41,920 had something in the parking deck for 1553 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,280 that but I would still be pulling the 1554 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,599 park deck turning around here coming out 1555 01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:46,640 college 1556 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,280 >> there is nothing 1557 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,480 on parking and there are going to be 1558 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,359 recommendations and not 1559 01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:57,280 >> so there is nothing on college app to 1560 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,440 pull off there's just a sidewalk right 1561 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,880 >> there is a front area basically they've 1562 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,960 designed like a pull medium you know, 1563 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,000 area for like loading and unloading. 1564 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,640 >> Um, kind of show you that on the other 1565 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,799 >> that'd be on 1.2. 1566 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:24,950 >> Yeah. 1567 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,119 » Nice page. There we go. So, it's that 1568 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:27,359 area. 1569 01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:28,720 >> This area right here. 1570 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,470 >> Okay. 1571 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,400 » That's all. 1572 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,240 Yep. 1573 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,880 >> It's not the most beautiful thing ever, 1574 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,079 but 1575 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:42,000 >> add a landscape island to screen this. 1576 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,910 >> Appreciate that. 1577 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,960 » But that's not like a like an Uber. It's 1578 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,160 more like UPS. 1579 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,440 >> Yeah. Yeah. Look for that. But we could 1580 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,559 use it that way. 1581 01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:56,079 >> I mean, the other, you know, to be 1582 01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:57,680 devil's advocate, the other I mean, it 1583 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,000 does take people from just parking in 1584 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,720 the street. 1585 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,960 >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's only six spots 1586 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,960 and like you said, it's already been 1587 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,720 approved by city council. 1588 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,240 >> Yeah, I would like I would I would not 1589 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,760 like to move those spots. I' I don't 1590 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,440 want to lose any spots anywhere in town. 1591 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,880 It's just it's just directing. 1592 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,039 >> We can look at I mean, I'm not going to 1593 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:18,559 lie to you. There has been talk about 1594 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:20,240 turning rigs into a one-way street. 1595 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,520 >> Yeah. But then every I mean, you see, 1596 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,720 they'd have to go all the way out to 1597 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,319 Stro. That's a long way for somebody 1598 01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:26,400 coming in and out of their house. That's 1599 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,880 a rotary would would solve that if it's 1600 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,520 feasible. 1601 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,079 >> Yeah, it would be 1602 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,039 Oh, just a note, you do have there's a 1603 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:38,400 shadow of some things on here. There are 1604 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,000 some alignment issues. So, whoever was 1605 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,455 in in their drawing, there's 1606 01:05:44,455 --> 01:05:46,319 [clears throat] some double 1607 01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:48,720 where your raised planters are. It looks 1608 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,400 like they're overlapping in weird 1609 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,359 locations with the concrete right in 1610 01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:54,160 there. 1611 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,319 >> I do see that. Yeah, we'll address that. 1612 01:05:56,319 --> 01:05:58,640 Yeah, it's obviously not supposed to be. 1613 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,000 Sorry. That's what 1614 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,160 >> I don't know as a designer like you get 1615 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,200 the plans that 1616 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,920 >> I do. 1617 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,000 >> Um, so 1618 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,119 I think he has you have a list of all of 1619 01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:13,920 the plant things that we discussed. 1620 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,720 >> Yes, I do. 1621 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:15,039 >> Okay. 1622 01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:17,520 >> And the Duke's Garden. That's the Yeah, 1623 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,280 I mean so 1624 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,079 >> we're considering the materials, 1625 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:23,119 landscape, lighting. 1626 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:24,640 >> I don't have any issue with these 1627 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,240 materials. I think they're a great 1628 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,079 right direction. The only thing 1629 01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:34,240 I can see the gray in it, but the only 1630 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,880 thing is everything is very gray based. 1631 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,079 And then there is 1632 01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:38,960 >> that's yellowower 1633 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,920 >> like this is a little more yellow. 1634 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,039 >> Um it's 1635 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,640 but then, you know, I think about it in 1636 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,799 context. there's, you know, some warm 1637 01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:52,880 wood and it's still a neutral tone that 1638 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,240 I I don't have enough objection to it to 1639 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,760 say I don't like it. 1640 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:08,630 >> Sorry. 1641 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,440 of this project before we move into 1642 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,190 trying to make a motion. 1643 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,720 Okay. So, based on specific feedback 1644 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,039 type to planting and vegetation 1645 01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:24,640 specifically along that um garden top on 1646 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,839 the tower, um 1647 01:07:27,839 --> 01:07:29,520 would anybody like to make a motion that 1648 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,880 we approve? 1649 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,119 >> Uh we'll make the motion. 1650 01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:36,720 >> Anybody like to second? 1651 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,799 >> Second. All those in favor, please raise 1652 01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:41,119 your right hand. 1653 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:41,760 >> Okay. 1654 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,359 >> Thank you for your time. Thank you very 1655 01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,119 much. Appreciate it. Thank you for 1656 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,190 looking for 1657 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,799 your time. 1658 01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:58,150 >> Thank you all very much. 1659 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,079 » Appreciate the recommendation. Last one. 1660 01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:04,710 Thank you. 1661 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,910 » Thanks. 1662 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,760 So that's going to move us into um 1663 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,920 action item number 42025 AR11. Applicant 1664 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,440 Ross Kler project plus is requesting 1665 01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:23,189 sorry 1666 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,279 » um requesting approval of building 1667 01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,239 materials um siding colors and other 1668 01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:31,040 exterior features for the 106 1669 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,000 street development. So, 1670 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,880 >> so this is another PD, 1671 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,159 >> a very different PD from 398 though. So, 1672 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:44,880 this is a multiple B multiple building 1673 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,199 um primarily residential. So, there are 1674 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,000 mixture of uses as a park separately. 1675 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,440 This PD um and basically as the agenda 1676 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:56,719 described it is what your your perview 1677 01:08:56,719 --> 01:09:01,279 is in it um as you just stated. So, it 1678 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:02,560 will be going over the buildings 1679 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,159 themselves. 1680 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:05,920 Um, 1681 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,839 for materials, that type of thing, roof 1682 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:10,719 lines, all that kind of stuff. Um, 1683 01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,560 general size has been determined by the 1684 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,480 DD though. 1685 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,560 And I guess with that, probably best 1686 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880 just to hand it over to Ros, let him uh 1687 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,239 start walking us through this one. It's 1688 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,400 a big one. Thank you. You'll just 1689 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:38,937 introduce yourself before you present. 1690 01:09:38,947 --> 01:09:43,829 » [laughter] 1691 01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:46,000 » Just dig through there all the good 1692 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,600 stuff. 1693 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,679 Appreciate y'all's time. I'm Ross 1694 01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:51,279 project 1695 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,000 out of Greenville. Um, yeah. So, as 1696 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,239 Jacob mentioned, we've got a multiple 1697 01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:57,679 building site here. if you want to stop 1698 01:09:57,679 --> 01:09:59,920 there for a second. Uh just for today's 1699 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,840 kind of purposes, let's we'll call the 1700 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,159 left side the south and the north or the 1701 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:06,640 right side the north side there. We've 1702 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,159 got a series of different types of 1703 01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:09,280 buildings here, but you can see it's 1704 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,000 kind of sprawling site. We're bicted by 1705 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,040 Horn Street. This went through the PE 1706 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,040 process resigning kind of got approved 1707 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,440 last September and uh you know part of 1708 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:24,000 that was to get reviewed here at V 1709 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,920 tonight. So just trying to look for 1710 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,679 those materials and kind of any feedback 1711 01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:28,880 y'all have so that we can make this 1712 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,960 better. But um with that the the strong 1713 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,760 site I mean our goal is to kind of kind 1714 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,679 of focus on the the different areas that 1715 01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:39,920 are surrounding this and kind of the 1716 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,440 residential buildings that are touching 1717 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:44,000 there. So if you scroll down just a 1718 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,520 little bit on the south side of the site 1719 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,719 you can see go to back up there. So 1720 01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:51,280 coming in from that the further south 1721 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,199 there coming in we've got the the 1722 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,040 clubhouse there. So trying to keep that 1723 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,840 as more one to one and a half story 1724 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,320 building there to kind of match the the 1725 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,320 neighborhood zone. And then kind of as 1726 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,400 we transition into the site, we've got a 1727 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,760 lot of grave we're contining with. So we 1728 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,679 do have a garden style building there. 1729 01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:09,600 Three stories on the back. So closest to 1730 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,840 the 1731 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,679 >> the neighboring properties and four 1732 01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:16,000 stories more internal. As we kind of 1733 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,840 transition through, we have more of town 1734 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,840 home product. Those are two stories off 1735 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,679 the the back, three stories off the uh 1736 01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:26,000 kind of that the the drive aisle there 1737 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,960 on the bottom there. Uh as you progress 1738 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,800 to the north side, we're using the same 1739 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,480 building typology, same building sizes, 1740 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,560 um but really focusing more efforts, 1741 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,480 more units towards the back, which is 1742 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:40,880 more buried into the site. The furthest 1743 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,440 north we're hitting railroad tracks as 1744 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,440 well as a large power line. you kind of 1745 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,840 see kind of on the the right side of 1746 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,880 this and across there we've got the the 1747 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,600 collected which is another apartment 1748 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,520 deal. So kind of focusing more of the density towards the back. So making 1749 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,040 sure our scales are kind of in alignment 1750 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,199 with the neighboring properties from 1751 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:02,960 there because the site is so strong 1752 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,640 we're looking at the materiality kind of 1753 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,320 being very similar throughout. So that's 1754 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,880 not like you know it appears as two 1755 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,880 separate 1756 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,120 projects. It's more trying to keep that 1757 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,400 cohesive through. You'll see on Sunny 1758 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,560 Street, which is further south. 1759 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,040 Actually, Jake, if you go all the way to 1760 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,480 the last three pages, 1761 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:26,880 sorry for bearing all of the sizzle in 1762 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,910 there, 1763 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,080 unless you just want to talk plans, but 1764 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,760 I'm assuming you for not. What page did 1765 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:36,640 you want me on? 1766 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:47,910 >> It's 31, I believe. 1767 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,950 Y start there. No, go down. 1768 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,040 » So, this is kind of a progression 1769 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,120 through the site. The top left rendering 1770 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,400 is kind of is the the entry into right 1771 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,440 off Sun Street. That is the diminity 1772 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,920 building, the clubhouse leasing. There 1773 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,199 is a small uh there's some small study 1774 01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,840 spaces as well as more kind of flex 1775 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,920 space for students, maybe podcast rooms, 1776 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,840 things that we're kind of continuing to 1777 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,760 learn about student housing kind of as 1778 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,960 it is constantly kind of changing in the 1779 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,000 amenity package. That back is that 1780 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,600 second picture on the right is the back 1781 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,080 side of that amenity space. You kind of 1782 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,760 see it's that one and a half kind of 1783 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,000 story approach kind of keeping with the 1784 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,719 neighbors. Um Jake, if you scroll down 1785 01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:36,080 just a touch, you'll be able to see kind 1786 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,760 of the key plan or if you can zoom out 1787 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,880 even. So that larger building in orange 1788 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,840 down there is what we call right up in 1789 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,880 the middle 1790 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:50,320 >> right there. Yep. So that's the the only apartment building in kind of 1791 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,719 the southern phase. And so that four 1792 01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:55,520 stories is only in one section of that. 1793 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,199 It is kind of our main terminus as 1794 01:13:57,199 --> 01:13:59,440 you're driving into the property. But 1795 01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:01,840 then kind of keeping the 1796 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,600 if you If you scroll back up, you can 1797 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,960 kind of see the top right. Sorry again. 1798 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,719 So, yep, that's the view as you're kind 1799 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:10,480 of driving in. It's tucked back a couple 1800 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,040 hundred yards off of S Street. It does. 1801 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,280 We're playing with the materialities of 1802 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,840 Betray Hardy and some different color 1803 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,360 vinyl windows. 1804 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,280 U 1805 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,880 so we're using some different color 1806 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,320 stain sets as well as some it's a it's a 1807 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,719 hardy accent panel but we we are using 1808 01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:30,560 kind of this more wood tone in c certain 1809 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,239 areas to kind of contrast those 1810 01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:35,360 materials. Um, and you'll start you'll 1811 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,840 pick up on that throughout. And as we 1812 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,080 scroll down a little bit, the backside 1813 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,679 is three stories. And so that's what's 1814 01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:43,440 facing our neighbors, the most direct 1815 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,440 neighbors to us. And so it's trying to 1816 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:46,880 drop that scale, but use the same 1817 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,880 materiality. As you kind of pull 1818 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,800 through, you'll start to see our town 1819 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,280 homes are the kind of the same color 1820 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,800 scheme, making sure that everything's 1821 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,679 cohesive because it is so strong. And 1822 01:14:57,679 --> 01:14:59,520 but it's kind of a breakdown, but 1823 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,560 similar kind of colors and language. 1824 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,239 And then if you scroll down, you'll 1825 01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:06,719 start to see kind of the the repeat but 1826 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:10,080 on the more dense area. So as we pull 1827 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,640 through across Sun Street, you go 1828 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:13,760 through a little bit of a parking lot 1829 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,679 and again a couple hundred yards back, 1830 01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:17,440 we have these two apartment buildings 1831 01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:19,760 that are faced kind of skinny ways as 1832 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:20,880 you're coming in. So they're not too 1833 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,719 opposing um imposing. And then they we 1834 01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:26,320 actually we're sinking them down to the 1835 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,840 four stories only impacting us 1836 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,920 internally. There is a this is a little 1837 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,159 bit of a stepped kind of terrace area. 1838 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,960 where we have a music pavilion and that 1839 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,120 kind of steps down helping to kind of 1840 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,480 hide that. I mean, this almost looks 1841 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,480 like it's probably bigger than it is. 1842 01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:42,480 Uh, but once you kind of back off the 1843 01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:44,000 street a little bit, it's going to feel 1844 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,719 like a three-story building. The the 1845 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:48,159 next picture is kind of that pool 1846 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:51,280 pavilion and the with internal to that 1847 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,560 four fourstory courtyard there. And then 1848 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,280 the top right is the actual the back 1849 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,000 side of that pool pavilion which is also 1850 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,920 our gym area and additional mini space 1851 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,120 for the more dense side of the of the um 1852 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,960 the development. And then so then you'll 1853 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,360 see some other ancillary buildings, some 1854 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,960 maintenance shed as well as a little 1855 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,480 bike 1856 01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:16,880 storage, indoor bike storage and kind of 1857 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,960 covered area for working on those bikes. 1858 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,199 So that's kind of the U. 1859 01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:28,149 >> Good job being the last one. 1860 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:28,880 » Scared them all away. 1861 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,292 >> Scared them all the way. Sorry. 1862 01:16:30,292 --> 01:16:31,440 [laughter] 1863 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,360 >> Yeah. So we we've got materials here. 1864 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,880 Y'all, I'm sure y'all are over 1865 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,640 interested in seeing all the samples. 1866 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,000 But um we've got s I've got samples of 1867 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,600 the windows as well as the railing in 1868 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,120 the car if y'all want to see those. 1869 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,320 >> The question I have, you have two 1870 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,840 different roof style. I mean it's not 1871 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,280 just shingles. You have metal roofing. 1872 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,960 Where's the metal roofing going to go? 1873 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,280 You have metal roofing right over the 1874 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,719 that bottom right there or here you go 1875 01:16:54,719 --> 01:16:56,400 right here. So over top 1876 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,920 >> really entry point. So where you're 1877 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,520 experiencing the most is where you we're 1878 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,920 going to slash it with some some metal. 1879 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,318 >> So like over on picture number left, 1880 01:17:06,318 --> 01:17:10,080 [laughter] sorry. Uh right there above 1881 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,400 the decks would be a metal roof. 1882 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:12,960 >> Is that 1883 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,360 >> above the decks? 1884 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,280 >> That part right there. No, that 1885 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,640 shouldn't be a metal roof. That's just 1886 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,800 asphalt shingle. Anything above 1887 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,560 >> the the top plate, we're going to call 1888 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,840 this just asphalt shingle. 1889 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,960 >> Middle and front. 1890 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,040 >> If if you can't see it, just assume it's 1891 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,560 asphalt shingle. 1892 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:29,360 >> Okay. 1893 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,760 >> And is the um shingle color going to be 1894 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,920 consistent throughout the development? 1895 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,920 Okay. And which color is it on the 1896 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,320 >> Oxford? What do we call it? Oxford gray. 1897 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:39,600 >> Oxford gray. Okay. 1898 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:40,960 >> It's got a little bit more depth to it 1899 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,480 than just like a solid black. 1900 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,920 >> A little bit of greenish gray. And we we 1901 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,159 can tweak that a touch if y'all if you 1902 01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:52,310 want to, but 1903 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,840 » yeah. 1904 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,840 >> And the brick is that kind of grayer 1905 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,719 mixed right consistently brick. 1906 01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:02,800 >> We've used that on many kind of town 1907 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,640 home multif family projects. We can get 1908 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,080 you more examples of kind of what that 1909 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,199 looks like. You all know this, but the u 1910 01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:10,400 you know the mortar makes a big 1911 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,000 difference too. So 1912 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,159 >> yes. So you're using a dark gray mortar. 1913 01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:15,199 It says, 1914 01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:19,679 >> "Yeah, we What was it? Smith 1915 01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:20,719 dark gray." 1916 01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:23,280 >> Yeah, I believe it's a a Smith gray is 1917 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,199 the type of what we've used in the past. 1918 01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:26,159 >> Okay. 1919 01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:28,800 >> It's a forget what it's called. The type 1920 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,360 of mortar. 1921 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,679 >> Well, thank you for not using white. 1922 01:18:31,679 --> 01:18:36,719 >> No, we like a little like spice up some darker colors. And you'll see in 1923 01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:39,199 there where we go dark, we're using dark 1924 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:41,280 windows. Where we where we're white, we 1925 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,679 go white windows. So instead of having 1926 01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:44,880 that that 1927 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,030 >> that contrast 1928 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:49,920 make it too busy. 1929 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,760 >> Sometimes it looks like a black eye or 1930 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,040 >> sorry we're trying to figure out where 1931 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,000 some of this goes. 1932 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,600 >> That's more of a just the stain color. 1933 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,760 That's an example of the stain for some 1934 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,800 of these sophets as well as we some of 1935 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,920 these may end up being. 1936 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,960 >> So number two on that picture on the 1937 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,920 left drawing. 1938 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,480 >> Yep. 1939 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:07,679 >> Is that this? 1940 01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:10,080 >> No, it's actually a hardy panel. It will 1941 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:10,719 be 1942 01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:13,199 >> it's a hardy addition. So it's actually 1943 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:16,480 it's a no that's the TX but we actually 1944 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:17,520 have 1945 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,040 >> it will be similar to that 1946 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,760 >> similar color but it's actually so the 1947 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,360 Carolina Color Tones is based out of 1948 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,320 Arden and they'll take Hardy and print 1949 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,640 their product on top of it. It's just a 1950 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,280 film and so it's a backing but it'll be 1951 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,920 that white and they have different 1952 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,480 colors and we get you I thought I had 1953 01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,800 that sample. I have all the other ones 1954 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,679 but uh we can get you those so that you 1955 01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:42,320 samples. 1956 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,239 >> Yeah, we'll send it to each of y'all's 1957 01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:47,120 houses. So yeah, 1958 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,560 >> so the grain will be like applied like 1959 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,640 >> No, it's not. So it's the hardy the wood 1960 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:53,520 grain texture 1961 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,560 >> the texture and then 1962 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,239 >> they just print their film over top of 1963 01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,320 it. So I don't know. I'm sure we have 1964 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,320 some that in clumps in some other like 1965 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,400 another big name is Wood Tone which is 1966 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,199 based out of Canada but Ardan is a local 1967 01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:06,880 >> manufacturer. Do they just pick a 1968 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,080 general tone out of this? 1969 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,159 >> No, it it it has some variation. 1970 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:12,560 >> Okay. 1971 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,320 >> And I can we've used it on multiple 1972 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,080 projects. I can send it to you. 1973 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,080 >> So that's that's what it looks. That's 1974 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,239 the finished look. 1975 01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:22,400 >> That's Yes. That is that chestnut color. 1976 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,760 >> It's going to have some texture and some 1977 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,040 variation in color in it. 1978 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,280 >> Okay. 1979 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,000 Um, 1980 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,040 >> and it's just an easy product to 1981 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,000 >> There are three different tracks. 1982 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,520 >> Yeah, 1983 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,679 >> we 1984 01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:40,159 So, the honey groove is what we chose. 1985 01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:41,760 That's what we printed and then we got 1986 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:42,480 the sample 1987 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:42,960 >> here. 1988 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,280 >> And we were a little hesitant. So, but 1989 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:55,910 we'll uh 1990 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,679 And then the board and batten is going 1991 01:20:57,679 --> 01:21:00,719 to be we have two different colors. So 1992 01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:02,719 back be that could be the black box with 1993 01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:03,760 the white. 1994 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,360 >> Okay. 1995 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,440 >> And the final materials where it would 1996 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,280 be helpful to have them like numbers on 1997 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,320 the pieces to like co I got pins. Yeah. 1998 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,280 >> Great. Start right. There you go. 1999 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,806 Uh let's take a look here. 2000 01:21:19,806 --> 01:21:21,910 >> [snorts] 2001 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,800 » Yeah, it is a odd color. 2002 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,040 >> Yeah, that was better before we got the 2003 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:27,600 sample. 2004 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,239 >> Yeah, 2005 01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:30,640 >> but we'll uh we'll trade that out. 2006 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,000 >> Drinking is going to peculiar. 2007 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,520 >> We can see where it was going with the 2008 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,400 brick and the 2009 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,520 >> Yeah, 2010 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,760 >> the roof shingle color. 2011 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:38,960 >> It's one of those. 2012 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,880 >> Yeah, it almost has like brick to it. 2013 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:41,360 And that's 2014 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,840 >> So that's the No, that's the decking. 2015 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,719 >> That's the deck decking. 2016 01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:49,990 >> That's the decking. Okay. 2017 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,639 Honestly, think something darker would 2018 01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:55,920 end up being nice in that. I like the 2019 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,280 brick color. I like that as a 2020 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,360 >> Yeah, the brick color is great. 2021 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,440 >> Uh I even like the siding. 2022 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:05,760 >> Which sample is the underneath of the 2023 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,760 roofs for like the deck, the little 2024 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:08,480 porches? 2025 01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:10,239 >> That's the same that your wood tone. 2026 01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:10,560 >> Okay. 2027 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,400 >> We can put that as a horizontal or 2028 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:21,750 that the ceiling application. Iron Gray. 2029 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,560 The black box versus iron gray. Is that 2030 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,520 what that one is? 2031 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,199 >> I don't know. It says iron gray. 2032 01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:30,159 >> Yeah, it should be black box. So, it's 2033 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:34,470 similar. 2034 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:41,750 I'll flip that one out for you. 2035 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,080 So, those are similar tones. That's 2036 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,840 hard. So those are hard to see finished 2037 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:46,960 materials right there. 2038 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,360 >> Okay. 2039 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,760 >> And so those are a color match if you 2040 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,159 will, but it's a 2041 01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:54,480 it is what do you call that? The dream 2042 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:58,080 collection. That's how they refer to it. 2043 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,000 So they just come prefish old paint on 2044 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,800 site. 2045 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,159 So we would need we need the actual 2046 01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:09,430 colors. 2047 01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:15,430 » Switch to those colors. See life fun. 2048 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,080 You said you'd switch to these colors. 2049 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,480 >> If y'all if we approve tonight, we will 2050 01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:26,950 switch to those colors. [laughter] 2051 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,120 » Or is it 2052 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,280 I I hate to even say this out loud, the 2053 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,280 owners here, but would you we would do 2054 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,040 we could potentially do a mockup panel, 2055 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,360 too, so that you'd see all these and 2056 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,280 approve them on site versus having to 2057 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:46,229 >> waste more of y'all's time. 2058 01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:49,840 Can I see the wider one really quickly? 2059 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:58,870 >> That's what makes it a bridge. 2060 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,639 » Seven. Seven is black. 2061 01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:04,960 >> So seven would be a board and batten 2062 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:05,840 style or 2063 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,239 >> So we So we have board and bat and we 2064 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:12,080 have some horizontal. So, but but yes, 2065 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,400 in that zone there is bat and that's 2066 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,440 painted black box 2067 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:18,000 >> which would be the darker color whatever 2068 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,040 that is. Okay. 2069 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,719 >> Exactly. 2070 01:24:20,719 --> 01:24:22,239 >> And then that's the lighter color on the 2071 01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,080 little pop out wing. 2072 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,719 >> Yeah. 2073 01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:27,750 >> Six. 2074 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,440 » And what's the actual color of the one? 2075 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:32,000 The darker one that we have here. 2076 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,600 >> This is That's the black. 2077 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,400 >> This is called iron gray. 2078 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:37,840 >> That's what you want. Black fox. That's 2079 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,400 going to be seven. Correct. 2080 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,719 >> It's very similar tone there. The the 2081 01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:44,960 goal is for it not to be straight gray. 2082 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,040 We want it to pull some warmth to it. 2083 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,360 >> I like how this pulls out the darker 2084 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,239 tones in the brick though with the black 2085 01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:57,440 box is going to be darker. [snorts] 2086 01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:59,440 >> The black box this prints a little bit 2087 01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,120 darker than probably what it is. It has 2088 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,120 a little bit of that brown undertone 2089 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,960 that underneath this light right now. 2090 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,560 >> Looks a little grayer. 2091 01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,120 >> It almost has blue. We've used that same 2092 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,280 thing on three other projects and I can 2093 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,760 tell you that now we can take you to 2094 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:14,960 those if you want to see them or you 2095 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,080 send pictures 2096 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,159 >> where the the difference is painting on 2097 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:25,430 site versus prefinish. 2098 01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:27,440 » You want to look it up? 2099 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:29,120 >> Where you want me to pull it up? 2100 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,560 >> If you type in the hub green SC and 2101 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,800 that'll have it's the same color palette 2102 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,800 actually. 2103 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,159 Uh the hub town homes. 2104 01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:45,830 >> This was probably or 2105 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,239 » look at the architecture of the uh 2106 01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:50,880 clubhouse entry building. 2107 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,000 >> Oh, there we go. 2108 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,400 >> Yeah. So that's that's the same color 2109 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,239 palette that we're talking about here 2110 01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:57,679 >> that has the wood in there. 2111 01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:00,000 >> And that's the black fox or 2112 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,639 >> Yeah, that is that is iron gray. Okay. 2113 01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:03,679 there. 2114 01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:06,960 >> That is so that's the exact same dog 2115 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,520 palette. 2116 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,120 >> And then we got another similar 2117 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,040 picture though. It's just finishing now, 2118 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,080 but Kiten 2119 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,880 Town Homes. How do I spell that? The 2120 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:35,430 kit. K I T S O N. 2121 01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:37,920 It's going to be tough to find finished 2122 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:38,800 picture though. You might be able to 2123 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,520 find some room. 2124 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,040 >> Yeah, that's not 2125 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:45,679 >> okay. 2126 01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:48,159 >> Yeah, the same same. It is the same 2127 01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:56,790 color scheme. 2128 01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,400 I mean, I could see using that darker 2129 01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,920 color, but I could see going with the 2130 01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:01,600 black fox and being a little bit warmer. 2131 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,880 I think either one. 2132 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,400 >> I'm not sure how that works with the 2133 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,560 deck decking color though. That seems a 2134 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,470 little bit off. 2135 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,480 » With that decking color 2136 01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:18,880 >> against that? 2137 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,719 >> Is this that same product you're talking 2138 01:27:20,719 --> 01:27:21,440 about? 2139 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:22,480 >> This or with this? 2140 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:24,080 >> Yeah, those two. Those look good 2141 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:24,639 together. 2142 01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:27,600 >> Yeah. I mean, I think those look fun. 2143 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,120 >> I mean, again, it's not daylight. It's 2144 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,400 >> That's the exact same product. 2145 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,159 >> Oh, that's great. 2146 01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:35,679 >> Okay. So, and almost the same 2147 01:27:35,679 --> 01:27:36,480 application, right? 2148 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,280 >> Yeah. So, it it is a Hardy material and 2149 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:40,400 that's what we like about it because 2150 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,320 people know how to install Hardy. They 2151 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,679 don't necessarily want to do a rain 2152 01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:45,600 screen and kind of hold it off and 2153 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,679 you're just asking for potential future 2154 01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:48,480 issues 2155 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,199 >> and durability the bonding between the 2156 01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:52,719 >> It's kind of what's that 2157 01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:54,000 >> like between the material and the 2158 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,360 application. It's 2159 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,960 >> Yeah, they they have a 20 year warranty. 2160 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,960 I don't We haven't I don't know if it's 2161 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:11,510 been around for 20 years, but 2162 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,679 » do you have any architectural renderings 2163 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:17,679 of the entry building? 2164 01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:22,950 Like if you go back to that page, 2165 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,080 » it's just a 2166 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,239 >> Yeah, that number one. 2167 01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:27,199 >> Yeah, 2168 01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:29,520 >> it's just a very weird angle to the 2169 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,120 building. And I'm trying to figure out 2170 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,320 that is a lot of steep pitched roof 2171 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:40,400 right there. That that is just 2172 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,120 I actually kind of like it 2173 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,360 because it's just different. It's I mean 2174 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,960 it doesn't look it almost looks churchy 2175 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:47,760 in a way. 2176 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:48,400 >> Yeah. 2177 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,480 >> You know, but I like I mean or European. 2178 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,080 It look to me it looks very more 2179 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,880 contemporary European like with that 2180 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,120 >> higher slope. I actually is that a 2181 01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,440 vaulted space within there. 2182 01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:02,159 >> Y that's a little hangout space right 2183 01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:03,840 there and then it transitions over to 2184 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,520 the study rooms. 2185 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,520 >> Do you have is this drawing X1 X1? Yeah. 2186 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,070 Okay. 2187 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,800 you know, so the you know, every you 2188 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,320 start looking at these apartment deals, 2189 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,280 especially guard style, and every 2190 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,520 it's just rinse, repeat. They stamp the 2191 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,440 same clubhouse over and over. So, 2192 01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:30,400 >> trying to spice that up, but not be too 2193 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,360 foreign. 2194 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:33,920 >> It does. 2195 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,360 >> So, that's your gym. 2196 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:35,840 >> There we go. 2197 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,520 >> It's a little refreshing. I mean, I 2198 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,679 think it's 2199 01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:42,320 >> especially with the prominent chimney. I 2200 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,560 just 2201 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,080 doesn't read up the vernacular around 2202 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,159 here, but it it's pleasant to me. 2203 01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:52,400 >> It's a pleasant I think it's pleasant. 2204 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,199 >> What are the chimney caps? Metal or uh 2205 01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:56,960 like 2206 01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:07,270 >> ceramic? 2207 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,760 Was there an inspiration for that or 2208 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,760 just kind of a break more of a break 2209 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,320 from the break from the typical was the 2210 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:14,880 inspiration? 2211 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,199 >> I mean the the materiality is the same 2212 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:19,040 as the rest. So trying to tie that all 2213 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,639 together. Um the the gable roof forms 2214 01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:24,080 are just from the neighboring 2215 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,560 properties. you have the larger kind of 2216 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,199 hardy panel massing that's kind of 2217 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:30,800 trying to bring it a little bit more 2218 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,120 commercial but and kind of tie back into 2219 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:38,719 the rest of the project but it's there I 2220 01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:41,440 don't I can't say I have a true pre is 2221 01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:42,960 there an actual fireplace 2222 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,199 >> there's fireplace it' be gas so that's 2223 01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:46,560 you know we don't fully need that 2224 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,480 chimney that's more that's aesthetics 2225 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:50,239 >> I like it because it looks substantial 2226 01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,000 versus flimsy and so much of what's 2227 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,400 built around here looks flimsy 2228 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,480 >> you 2229 01:30:56,480 --> 01:31:03,189 I just like the weight of it. 2230 01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:04,880 » This is the one that we can't comment on 2231 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,880 the landscaping, right? 2232 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:12,229 >> I mean, you can comment [laughter] 2233 01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:13,600 in there. 2234 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,760 >> I saw something somewhere. 2235 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,120 >> I mean, if you want to give us any 2236 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,560 comments that that most developers 2237 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:28,390 appreciate your comments, but 2238 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,239 I mean, we're here to make it better. 2239 01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:51,830 >> Any comments at all? 2240 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,719 So, you're rendering plantings on page 2241 01:31:54,719 --> 01:31:58,800 on this don't really match what's on the 2242 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,629 landscape plan. 2243 01:32:02,639 --> 01:32:06,719 And I think the cont like there's not a 2244 01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:09,120 lot of room. It's like building and 2245 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,199 sidewalk. 2246 01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:13,440 I don't know if there's any way to give 2247 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,600 yourself a little more 2248 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,199 >> driveway. We shut it off. 2249 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:19,280 >> I would just give yourself a little more 2250 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,320 room cuz I mean you could stand on the 2251 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:26,080 sidewalk and you know basically you're 2252 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:30,480 standing next to like within 5t of that 2253 01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:32,719 whole the whole whole thing. I would say 2254 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,560 that if you could give yourself enough 2255 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,760 room to give the silhouette of some 2256 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,719 trees against that room because it it 2257 01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:46,239 has that it does have that sort of 2258 01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:49,760 sort that end has that sort of European 2259 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,639 rustic. I mean you could almost feel it 2260 01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:54,000 especially when you see it in the 2261 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,239 context with like the conifers and 2262 01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:59,440 stuff. We don't have a lot of good one a 2263 01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:02,080 lot of good conifers here. 2264 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,159 um 2265 01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:07,760 per se, but I would just say in the in 2266 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,320 the field, I think just making sure you 2267 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,120 have enough plant material to have it 2268 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,080 not just feel shoved up on the sidewalk. 2269 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,760 Um 2270 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,679 and and and [clears throat] 2271 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,080 you'll still see the roof, but having 2272 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,880 the silhouettes of the trees there, I 2273 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,960 think would 2274 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,440 help that. 2275 01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:33,040 >> Do you have any tree species you would 2276 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:33,679 recommend? 2277 01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:35,520 >> I was looking to see what y'all had 2278 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,159 specified because I if you had something 2279 01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:41,199 good specified, I wasn't going to, 2280 01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:45,280 you know, say anything bad about it 2281 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,280 for first, 2282 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,239 but it's not 2283 01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,480 Oh, let's see. 2284 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:54,719 You don't have any you It says like 2285 01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:59,120 parking canopy tree. Uh like you just 2286 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,280 call out I mean, you're going to want 2287 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:05,440 something there um that can handle like 2288 01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:07,760 an urban type environment 2289 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,600 >> just because you're so close to the 2290 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,480 sidewalk and the building. So, the heat 2291 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:14,639 radiating 2292 01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:21,220 off of it. Um, 2293 01:34:21,230 --> 01:34:25,350 [sighs] 2294 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,880 you could do a like if you wanted some 2295 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,239 color, you could do a like a narrower 2296 01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:36,000 oak or like a narrower maple tree, like 2297 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,800 a trident type maple. Um, 2298 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,440 >> what are those shaggy um evergreens that 2299 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,159 we put by Dixie? Those actually turned 2300 01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:46,960 out pretty well. 2301 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,040 >> Was it the 2302 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,000 >> You talking about 2303 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,880 >> They're either the cryptoaria or are 2304 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,159 they diodor cedars? 2305 01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:55,679 >> Cedars of some sort of cedars. 2306 01:34:55,679 --> 01:34:58,239 >> Yeah. Yeah. Like the diodor cedars. 2307 01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:00,159 >> There's some narrow varieties there. 2308 01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:03,120 >> Those are the ones along the 2309 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,639 >> trail side of Bixby. Cedars that would 2310 01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:09,280 look really good with this building. 2311 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,520 >> So 2312 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,520 meal just an image of those. 2313 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,040 >> Yep. 2314 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,800 I can't. Yeah, it's been a while. 2315 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,470 >> They're next to 2316 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:23,840 me. [laughter] 2317 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:24,719 >> No problem. 2318 01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:26,080 >> I'm sure if you send a picture of the 2319 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,600 landscape architect on the 2320 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,629 >> Yeah, 2321 01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:42,870 » okay. 2322 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,040 So, I guess y'all have a specific list 2323 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,600 of trees that can be used. Um, please do 2324 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,880 not use a winged elm. Please do not use 2325 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,350 a silver maple, 2326 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,639 but they've grown quite a bit since 2327 01:35:58,639 --> 01:35:59,760 then. 2328 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,560 >> I would say everything else on those on 2329 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,960 those upper story trees. 2330 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,360 Um, the only reason I'm thinking a maple 2331 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,280 and not a oak is if you're right next to 2332 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,120 the sidewalk. You don't want all the 2333 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,480 acorns, ankle twisting, whatever. 2334 01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:18,000 >> So, um, I would go that way. 2335 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,080 >> Um, 2336 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,199 but I think there's there's some ways to 2337 01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:24,880 have a lot of fun with the character 2338 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,159 there. 2339 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:29,199 >> So, um, 2340 01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,600 >> what were those shoes called? Diodor. 2341 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:32,960 >> I've got Diodor Cedar. 2342 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,520 >> Cedar. Yeah, they're not on this 2343 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,840 approved list. And I'm sorry, what was 2344 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:38,159 this? 2345 01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:39,760 >> That's the ordinance that council 2346 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,080 approved in relationship to this 2347 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,520 specific PD. 2348 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,760 >> I'm sure we can, you know, 2349 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,320 >> so approve. I'm sure we can. 2350 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,280 >> Yeah, I'm sure. 2351 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,560 >> Those are just kind. 2352 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,320 >> Yeah. 2353 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:54,960 >> Okay. 2354 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,280 >> But these are these are the seeds when 2355 01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,920 they're first put in over there. Oh, so 2356 01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:05,119 those are actually um those are ball cypress. 2357 01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:06,000 >> Ball cypress. 2358 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,840 >> Yeah, those are not cedars. 2359 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:08,719 >> Ball cypress. 2360 01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:15,462 >> Um they are they are deciduous. They're not grain. Um 2361 01:37:15,462 --> 01:37:16,000 [snorts] 2362 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,639 but 2363 01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:20,480 >> yeah, they they've grown quite a bit. So 2364 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:22,480 they seem to be taking their herbs 2365 01:37:22,480 --> 01:37:22,960 deeper. 2366 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,960 >> Yeah, they can. I think I think we would 2367 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,840 want to stay evergreen there. Yeah, 2368 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,872 >> I think you're right. 2369 01:37:29,872 --> 01:37:30,639 [clears throat] 2370 01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:32,320 >> So, I'm going to write the indoor cedar, 2371 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,320 but we might I'll follow up with the 2372 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,639 landscape architect on that. 2373 01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:38,719 >> And there are some narrow varieties they 2374 01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:40,800 could do there. 2375 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:46,310 Um, that that could fit in. 2376 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,040 And those are very longlasting trees. 2377 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,950 >> All of 2378 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:53,280 what 2379 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:54,719 >> can we get a dwarf species? 2380 01:37:54,719 --> 01:37:58,800 >> Yeah. Okay. But I mean there's nothing 2381 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,960 wrong with a tall tree. It's 2382 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,040 >> true. As long as we have the right area 2383 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:03,840 for it, right? 2384 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,679 >> Well, those can be lived up. So, for 2385 01:38:05,679 --> 01:38:09,440 example, between right to the left down 2386 01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:11,679 the hill from Tilman, that whole grove 2387 01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:15,679 of trees um headed, you know, that that 2388 01:38:15,679 --> 01:38:18,400 are all limbmed up 20, 30 feet, those 2389 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,679 are all diodor cedars. 2390 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:20,159 >> Oh, really? 2391 01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:21,440 >> Yeah. 2392 01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:24,239 >> Very cool. So, 2393 01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,480 you can you can limb those up as they 2394 01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:29,600 grow pretty easily. 2395 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,760 >> Okay. 2396 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:38,709 I like that. 2397 01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:42,629 I mean, 2398 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:44,320 » for the rest of the architecture, it 2399 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,800 really just looks like a normal 2400 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,760 apartment complex. I mean it it's 2401 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,199 >> yeah it has that contemporary player 2402 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,400 with the color palette and 2403 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,280 >> plus it's not really visible from any 2404 01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,920 road. 2405 01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,360 >> Yeah. I think what everyone's going to 2406 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:02,719 see is this building up front. 2407 01:39:02,719 --> 01:39:03,679 >> Yeah about it. 2408 01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:05,840 >> That's the rest of it. You're going to 2409 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:06,639 have to be inside 2410 01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:08,320 >> a little past how to house to your 2411 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:08,880 right. 2412 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,360 >> Yes, exactly. That's right. So where the 2413 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,000 entrance of the current varsity is, it's 2414 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,360 going to be to the left and kind of push 2415 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,239 back from that. Can you pull up like a 2416 01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:18,800 view? 2417 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,719 >> No, like a Google Maps view. Just 2418 01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,480 >> everything in this is black and white. 2419 01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:28,400 And I want to move on. It all looks the 2420 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:45,189 same. 2421 01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:46,080 Okay. 2422 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:46,480 >> Okay. 2423 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:48,080 >> So, we are coming in basically. See 2424 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,239 where this house is right here? 2425 01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:53,199 >> Right there. And wrapping around to this 2426 01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:56,000 big area back here. 2427 01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,159 >> So, you have railroad tracks on the back 2428 01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:00,719 side. You have an apartment complex on 2429 01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:03,920 the northeast. You have Harris ter on 2430 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,760 the southeast. 2431 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:09,600 And then there's the hotel 2432 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,560 >> there. Yep. 2433 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,440 >> And is that that Hawthorne Streets a 2434 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:16,480 public street? 2435 01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:17,360 >> Yep. 2436 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:18,639 >> Yeah. But it's going the development is 2437 01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:19,920 going to kind of go right across. 2438 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:20,880 >> Yeah. 2439 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,239 >> So tell me about which I know we don't 2440 01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,800 have any say so on, but I'd love to hear 2441 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,119 about the public park area. 2442 01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:31,840 >> Yeah. 2443 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,440 >> John, do you want to do you want to talk 2444 01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:35,280 about that? I don't I'm not as familiar 2445 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,320 with the public park. 2446 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,320 >> So, was that part of the PD? 2447 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:39,679 >> You might as well. 2448 01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:40,639 >> Yep. 2449 01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:43,119 >> So, yeah, I think overall we were 2450 01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:46,639 required to get 1 point 10 10% of the 2451 01:40:46,639 --> 01:40:49,840 site to uh qualify as park. You can see 2452 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,320 it. Um 2453 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,600 it is kind of meandering down. We have a 2454 01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,080 stream. So, we we have a couple issues 2455 01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,600 with those transmission lines. Those are 2456 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,600 Duke power lines very restrictive in 2457 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:02,639 terms of 2458 01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:04,400 >> what you can do beneath them. And then 2459 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,080 we have the stream. So we thought it'd 2460 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,520 be best appropriate. We're going to come 2461 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,520 in. We we I don't know if you guys 2462 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,760 remember from the sorry from the 2463 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:17,280 planning commission and council the 10 foot wide interodal um path 2464 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,600 throughout the site. Um we're running it 2465 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,679 all the way over to the park uh with 2466 01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:23,360 public access easements. We've been 2467 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,280 through that with Jacob and the guys 2468 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:26,480 where those easements will get 2469 01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:28,560 dedicated. We're also dedicating 2470 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,400 easements to adjacent properties. So, 2471 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,400 when you looked at it earlier, you saw 2472 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,239 uh the community, the big community to 2473 01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:38,000 the north, railroad tracks, but the area 2474 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,800 kind of eastish is is kind of something 2475 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,639 that the city's got earmarked as it's 2476 01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:44,719 going to be a redevelopment. 2477 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:47,280 >> I have a guy who's coming in right here 2478 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,080 with a little like tiny actually sent me 2479 01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:50,960 pictures of what they're going to look 2480 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,360 like. Great whole container house kind 2481 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:54,639 of modern things coming up here that 2482 01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:55,840 he's going to want to connect to your 2483 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,159 park in the back. So, so yeah, we made 2484 01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:00,080 an effort so it would connect so it 2485 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,600 wouldn't just be an isolated park. It'll 2486 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:02,880 hopefully match up with these other 2487 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,159 properties that'll probably have some 2488 01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:06,880 scale or density to them. Um, and then 2489 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:07,760 you [clears throat] can use these 2490 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,520 walking trails and get back on that 2491 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:13,360 10-ft trail or the 10-ft intermoal uh 2492 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,040 connectivity all the way out to the bus 2493 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,320 stop that we're installing in front of 2494 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,480 Bo or um Bojangles. And then 93 2495 01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:22,080 eventually is going to get restriped to 2496 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,600 be like way more uh bicycle friendly. So 2497 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:26,880 that's, you know, that was kind of our 2498 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,239 goal. Jacob was working on that. 2499 01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:29,920 Hopefully we get like the the commuter 2500 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,520 bikes from the university. They're 2501 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,280 reluctant to do it now because of just 2502 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,760 safety issues, but hopefully once 93 2503 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,719 gets restriped and becomes like a true 2504 01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:40,560 um bicycle lane that you'll be able to 2505 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,239 ride it all the way up into this park. 2506 01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:46,400 That just again kind of one more uh uh 2507 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,480 what's that term like in the arm, 2508 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:50,800 you know, just building upon the the the 2509 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:51,520 network of 2510 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,000 >> So that 10-ft pathway system, just so I 2511 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,560 understand, is on the page south of all 2512 01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,920 that parking, 2513 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,000 >> correct? Yeah. by going 2514 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,159 >> from Hawthorne where it splits all the 2515 01:43:02,159 --> 01:43:04,239 way around in front of that parking to a 2516 01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:05,520 like the walking trails. 2517 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,350 >> Okay. 2518 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,199 » And the toebo I mean if you've driven by 2519 01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:13,600 it the toe back there is like it's 2520 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,520 crazy. It's a it's a pit. So it's um you 2521 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,199 know worked with Nathan trying to get 2522 01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:22,560 you know that inter modal has to be 2523 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:23,920 >> you know it has to you know it's got 2524 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,800 pretty stringent uh slope requirements 2525 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,400 things like that. So, we got it as far 2526 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,239 in as we could and then take it over 2527 01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:31,520 with some of the walking trails. 2528 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,080 >> And that's is that a retention pond on 2529 01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:34,800 the east? 2530 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,800 >> That's an open pond. Yep. To the east. 2531 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:37,199 >> Okay. 2532 01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:39,280 >> And then that, you know, again, that's 2533 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,119 buried way back in there. So, again, 2534 01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:43,040 when Ross was telling you about the two 2535 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,960 buildings 13 and 15, when you're driving 2536 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,199 at Hawthorne, they're down 2537 01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:48,239 >> Yeah. 2538 01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:50,000 >> significantly. And then the pond is 2539 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,400 hidden behind building 14. And then the 2540 01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,600 only people that would really see it is 2541 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,360 another student housing community up 2542 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,280 above it to the northeast. So, it's kind 2543 01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,400 of concealed back there. 2544 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,199 >> Yeah. 2545 01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:02,960 >> Oh, 2546 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,600 that's a uh you know, public park, just 2547 01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:10,560 as a side note, um 2548 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,719 Hollingsworth 2549 01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:15,520 uh has done a great and actually just 2550 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,400 won an award for their public park 2551 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:25,840 quality and preservation. Uh and and so 2552 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:30,560 uh no, I'm glad that there is something 2553 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,440 in there. 2554 01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:32,719 >> We're going to leave it pretty natural. 2555 01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:34,800 That was what Tony did. Well, you know, 2556 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,239 keep pretty we'll thin it out some 2557 01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:37,840 invasive and stuff like that. We'll keep 2558 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,920 it pretty natural, but where they built 2559 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,960 that spur line off the swamp over 2560 01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,639 >> Yeah. I mean, that's really what this 2561 01:44:44,639 --> 01:44:46,800 is. So, it's it's more than just 2562 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,280 striping on 93. We're going to do an 2563 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,440 actual 10 foot wide multimodal trail 2564 01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:53,360 down all of 93. 2565 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,000 >> And he's bringing this out all the way 2566 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,639 past Harris ter out to 93. So this is 2567 01:44:58,639 --> 01:45:00,080 going to be cuz we're event, you know, 2568 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,600 we're developing a pretty good bike 2569 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,960 system around. It's going to take time, 2570 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,480 but this will be the spur to a park. 2571 01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,080 >> I mean, you kind of picture you go for a 2572 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,080 bike ride down 93, you go stop at Harris 2573 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:11,920 ter grab something, and then you go off 2574 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,520 into this park to go eat, you know, have 2575 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,119 a little picnic back there. That'll 2576 01:45:15,119 --> 01:45:18,400 >> be pretty cool. 2577 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,760 Um, so I I think even though 2578 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,239 I think we're fine with the colors as 2579 01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:26,080 presented, right? 2580 01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:27,040 >> If you want to 2581 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,280 >> just mark these as that. 2582 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:30,800 >> Yeah. I mean, I think we'd probably feel 2583 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,400 more comfortable approving what we see, 2584 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:33,280 right? 2585 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,679 >> Well, either that or we have to have new 2586 01:45:35,679 --> 01:45:37,840 samples of the actual colors. But I 2587 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,800 mean, this this works and if this works, 2588 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,880 I don't see 2589 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:51,270 >> why not using it. Yep. mark up. 2590 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:55,840 » And uh the decking I think works best is 2591 01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,480 the river bank. 2592 01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:04,790 I think is the 2593 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:05,520 » Yeah. 2594 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,280 It just has a good 2595 01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,159 >> good 2596 01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:14,960 don't do it justice. I meant it reads I 2597 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,400 meant the colors are much better. 2598 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:16,719 >> Yeah. 2599 01:46:16,719 --> 01:46:17,440 >> In person. 2600 01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:23,990 >> I agree. 2601 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,840 » So, any other comments or concerns? 2602 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,000 >> You're doing like the gray route or 2603 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:28,800 >> It's a black 2604 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,600 >> black route. Okay. 2605 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,199 >> Or dark gray? Dark gray. 2606 01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:32,639 >> Saying 2607 01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:34,480 >> No, it says dark gray. 2608 01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:36,320 >> We're going with the colors we see here. 2609 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:36,960 >> Okay. 2610 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,080 >> No, but on the brick it says dark gray 2611 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:41,040 on the mortar. 2612 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,440 >> Yeah, it's a Smith. I mean, the one we 2613 01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:47,590 typically use is Smith gray. 2614 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,000 » That's a 2615 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,320 >> Does it look like that? 2616 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:53,520 >> It's a little lighter than that. I mean, 2617 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,040 it's the same if you still have the hub 2618 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,880 up. I mean, that's what the color comes 2619 01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,199 out to. 2620 01:46:59,199 --> 01:47:01,040 >> It's that one. So, it actually comes out 2621 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,400 a little bit lighter. I mean, that's 2622 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:03,679 obviously probably a little bit washed 2623 01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:07,119 out in sun, but it's 2624 01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:09,440 >> Smith probably touch that. 2625 01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:09,679 >> Okay. 2626 01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:11,440 >> And I think honestly similar 2627 01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:13,520 >> the real sample just like notice on the 2628 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:14,800 others is probably a little better than 2629 01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,600 this show. 2630 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,629 >> Okay. 2631 01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:22,000 » That's got some warmth in there. 2632 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,679 Obviously, the the colors next to it 2633 01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:25,280 help warm it up as well. 2634 01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,360 >> Yeah. 2635 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:28,560 Okay. 2636 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,480 >> Well, is there anybody willing to make a 2637 01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:34,070 motion? 2638 01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,000 Now I'll make a motion to approve. 2639 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:36,639 >> A second. 2640 01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:37,440 >> Second. 2641 01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:38,800 >> All those in favor, please raise your 2642 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:39,920 right hand. 2643 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,840 >> Okay, there you go. Thank you much. 2644 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:47,750 >> Appreciate your time. 2645 01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,119 » Appreciate it. 2646 01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:51,840 >> I think 2647 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,679 >> does he need to keep them? 2648 01:47:53,679 --> 01:47:55,280 >> Do we keep the We want to keep the 2649 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:55,920 board, right? 2650 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:56,960 >> Yeah. Well, 2651 01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,280 >> give me a mark and keep it. However you 2652 01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,280 want to do it, we need to have up 2653 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,199 something that tells us those so I don't 2654 01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:04,080 mark up. 2655 01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,679 >> Also, I mean, I'm going to update our 2656 01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:07,199 system. I can send you back a new one, 2657 01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:07,679 too. 2658 01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:09,360 >> Yep. Either way is fine. 2659 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:13,750 >> Okay. 2660 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,520 That moves it own uh staff 2661 01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,600 reports. Do we have any staff reports? 2662 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,520 >> Um, 2663 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,760 nope. I don't think so. We So both 2664 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:27,840 Christine and David are um rotating off 2665 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,920 the board. 2666 01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,199 So I think we do have applications in. I 2667 01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:35,520 don't know who applied but neither of 2668 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,840 them applied to be back on the board. Um 2669 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,679 but I think we do have five applicants. 2670 01:48:39,679 --> 01:48:42,159 So you go to another board. 2671 01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:44,480 >> Well, no moving on to bigger better 2672 01:48:44,480 --> 01:48:46,880 things. zoning committee 2673 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,280 zoning speech in Europe for a year. 2674 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,159 >> Oh, he gets go. Yeah. Okay, I 2675 01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:52,800 understand. 2676 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,480 >> Zoning appeals board that makes noise a 2677 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:54,880 year. 2678 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:59,119 >> Yeah. 2679 01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:00,480 >> Here's one more sample. Okay. 2680 01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,000 >> Okay. And any other business for 2681 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,760 tonight? 2682 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,000 >> Okay.