1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:05,671 >> good morning, everyone. 2 00:01:05,671 --> 00:01:11,600 I would like to call the december third 2025 essex county 3 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,529 council meeting to order. 4 00:01:12,529 --> 00:01:15,770 council is gathered this morning 5 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:16,734 to deliberate the 2026 budget. 6 00:01:16,734 --> 00:01:23,043 we will invite everyone to join 7 00:01:23,043 --> 00:01:24,218 council and administration as 8 00:01:24,218 --> 00:01:26,181 we take this time for a moment of 9 00:01:26,181 --> 00:01:26,399 reflection. 10 00:01:26,399 --> 00:01:28,685 that will lead into the playing 11 00:01:28,685 --> 00:01:29,388 of our national anthem. 12 00:01:29,388 --> 00:02:43,793 [o canada playing, instrumental] 13 00:02:43,793 --> 00:03:18,690 we acknowledge the land on which 14 00:03:18,690 --> 00:03:20,233 the county of essex is located 15 00:03:20,233 --> 00:03:21,509 is the traditional territory of 16 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:22,836 the three fires confederacy of 17 00:03:22,836 --> 00:03:24,369 first nations, comprised of the 18 00:03:24,369 --> 00:03:25,686 ojibway, odawa and potawatomie 19 00:03:25,686 --> 00:03:25,686 peoples. 20 00:03:25,686 --> 00:03:28,170 we specifically recognize 21 00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:30,327 caldwell first nation and other 22 00:03:30,327 --> 00:03:32,094 first nations which have 23 00:03:32,094 --> 00:03:33,716 provided significant historical 24 00:03:33,716 --> 00:03:35,385 and contemporary contributions 25 00:03:35,385 --> 00:03:37,451 to this region. 26 00:03:37,451 --> 00:03:40,080 we also value the contributions 27 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,834 of all original peoples of 28 00:03:45,834 --> 00:03:46,432 turtle island 29 00:03:46,432 --> 00:03:48,197 who have been living and working 30 00:03:48,197 --> 00:03:49,394 on this land from time 31 00:03:49,394 --> 00:03:49,394 immemorial. 32 00:03:49,394 --> 00:03:55,228 >> is a look around the table, 33 00:03:55,228 --> 00:03:57,934 I see all-county members are around the table this morning. 34 00:03:57,934 --> 00:03:58,225 again, good morning. 35 00:03:58,225 --> 00:04:04,010 welcome to what we hope is a -- 36 00:04:04,010 --> 00:04:06,382 I'm trying to think what p word 37 00:04:06,382 --> 00:04:06,872 is good. 38 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:10,024 >> productive. 39 00:04:10,024 --> 00:04:11,438 thank you. 40 00:04:11,438 --> 00:04:12,486 a productive day this morning. 41 00:04:12,486 --> 00:04:16,050 without too much pain, shall we 42 00:04:16,050 --> 00:04:17,073 put it that way. 43 00:04:17,073 --> 00:04:22,101 the county's strategic plan calls for the county of essex 44 00:04:22,101 --> 00:04:27,250 to be a regional champion delivering services for the success of our local communities 45 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:27,770 and residents. 46 00:04:27,770 --> 00:04:30,598 that plan also calls for us to 47 00:04:30,598 --> 00:04:32,541 be a powerhouse in public and 48 00:04:32,541 --> 00:04:34,413 private investment attraction 49 00:04:34,413 --> 00:04:37,919 I investing in quality infrastructure and creating conditions conducive to economic 50 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:38,167 growth. 51 00:04:38,167 --> 00:04:40,032 the county of essex staff built 52 00:04:40,032 --> 00:04:48,239 the proposed 2026 budget in response to the strategic priorities that we as council 53 00:04:48,239 --> 00:04:51,369 set and they did so in a challenging economic environment 54 00:04:51,369 --> 00:04:52,591 while trying to maintain service 55 00:04:52,591 --> 00:04:52,826 levels. 56 00:04:52,826 --> 00:04:56,218 I thank them for their dedication and hard work. 57 00:04:56,218 --> 00:04:59,903 now it's time for us to get to 58 00:04:59,903 --> 00:05:00,151 work. 59 00:05:00,151 --> 00:05:02,664 I know we are up for the task. 60 00:05:02,664 --> 00:05:04,188 reviewing and setting the budget 61 00:05:04,188 --> 00:05:07,887 is one of the most important jobs that council performs and 62 00:05:07,887 --> 00:05:13,085 I am looking forward to the discussions around this table 63 00:05:13,085 --> 00:05:14,776 as we chart our course for 2026 and 64 00:05:14,776 --> 00:05:15,026 beyond. 65 00:05:15,026 --> 00:05:19,186 before we get started, just a 66 00:05:19,186 --> 00:05:19,439 little notes. 67 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:30,012 if we have moments in the discussion process where we asked the finance department for 68 00:05:30,012 --> 00:05:32,033 certain numbers or certain adjustments instead of us just 69 00:05:32,033 --> 00:05:35,738 sitting then, perhaps we will 70 00:05:35,738 --> 00:05:37,219 take a little break at that time 71 00:05:37,219 --> 00:05:37,219  time. 72 00:05:37,219 --> 00:05:38,757 I think that keeps us moving a 73 00:05:38,757 --> 00:05:40,274 little bit, getting up and down 74 00:05:40,274 --> 00:05:42,322 , and it also, it doesn't put the 75 00:05:42,322 --> 00:05:46,293 pressure on our ladies at the 76 00:05:46,293 --> 00:05:46,543 finance table. 77 00:05:46,543 --> 00:05:48,887 if that's okay with you, I think 78 00:05:48,887 --> 00:05:50,366 we will proceed in that manner 79 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:50,366 . 80 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:50,438 thank you. 81 00:05:50,438 --> 00:05:56,341 any disclosures of pecuniary interest around the table this 82 00:05:56,341 --> 00:05:56,578 morning? 83 00:05:56,578 --> 00:05:57,065 seen none. 84 00:05:57,065 --> 00:06:00,844 if at any point during the proceedings matter is raised 85 00:06:00,844 --> 00:06:05,191 for which a member has an interest which is pecuniary, of 86 00:06:05,191 --> 00:06:07,145 decoration can be made. 87 00:06:07,145 --> 00:06:09,102 no minutes for council's consideration and no delegations 88 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:09,102  delegations. 89 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:15,399 one piece of correspondence received in relation to the 2026 90 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:15,873 draft budget. 91 00:06:15,873 --> 00:06:17,251 does anyone want to discuss that 92 00:06:17,251 --> 00:06:17,768 item further? 93 00:06:17,768 --> 00:06:22,344 I am seeing none. 94 00:06:22,344 --> 00:06:23,905 the recommendation is that the 95 00:06:23,905 --> 00:06:28,088 correspondence listed on the regular agenda for december december third, 2025, we received. 96 00:06:28,088 --> 00:06:31,226 looking for a mover and a second 97 00:06:31,226 --> 00:06:31,445 life. 98 00:06:31,445 --> 00:06:34,521 moved by councilor verbeke, seconded by councilor meloche. 99 00:06:34,521 --> 00:06:35,669 any discussion? 100 00:06:35,669 --> 00:06:37,584 all in favour by show of hands 101 00:06:37,584 --> 00:06:37,584 . 102 00:06:37,584 --> 00:06:38,515 that is carried. 103 00:06:38,515 --> 00:06:39,106 thank you. 104 00:06:39,106 --> 00:06:41,337 no resolutions for consideration 105 00:06:41,337 --> 00:06:41,337  consideration. 106 00:06:41,337 --> 00:06:44,429 under consent, there are two items listed for december third 107 00:06:44,429 --> 00:06:44,429 . 108 00:06:44,429 --> 00:06:47,275 anything there that council would like to discuss further? 109 00:06:47,275 --> 00:06:49,382 seeing none. 110 00:06:49,382 --> 00:06:51,121 there is a recommendation that 111 00:06:51,121 --> 00:06:52,579 the recommendations included in 112 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:55,402 the reports listed as items 11.1 113 00:06:55,402 --> 00:06:57,604 and 11.2 on the consent agenda 114 00:06:57,604 --> 00:06:59,896 for december third, 2025 be approved. 115 00:06:59,896 --> 00:07:01,450 looking for a mover and a second 116 00:07:01,450 --> 00:07:01,682 her. 117 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:09,061 councilor mcnamara any discussion? 118 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:16,239 all in favour that is carried 119 00:07:16,239 --> 00:07:18,472 as part of the deliberations there 120 00:07:18,472 --> 00:07:22,862 is one report for council to consider and it is the county 121 00:07:22,862 --> 00:07:24,021 of essex 2026 advocacy priorities 122 00:07:24,021 --> 00:07:24,021 . 123 00:07:24,021 --> 00:07:28,390 for that report we turn to our 124 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:29,219 cao sandra zwiers. 125 00:07:29,219 --> 00:07:29,219 sandra. 126 00:07:29,219 --> 00:07:29,893 >> thank you, gordon. 127 00:07:29,893 --> 00:07:34,662 before I get into my report, I 128 00:07:34,662 --> 00:07:36,650 do want to make a few opening 129 00:07:36,650 --> 00:07:37,700 remarks about this year's budget 130 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:37,700  budget. 131 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:39,358 first and foremost, I want to 132 00:07:39,358 --> 00:07:39,862 thank this council. 133 00:07:39,862 --> 00:07:42,668 your support and encouragement 134 00:07:42,668 --> 00:07:44,408 to staff over this past year has 135 00:07:44,408 --> 00:07:46,160 really meant a lot to the team 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,160 . 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,243 providing public service is not 138 00:07:48,243 --> 00:07:48,491 easy. 139 00:07:48,491 --> 00:07:50,318 but it is made easier when we 140 00:07:50,318 --> 00:07:52,885 know as staff that we have the 141 00:07:52,885 --> 00:07:54,312 support of our council. 142 00:07:54,312 --> 00:07:57,705 this year, we really want to extend our things as we get into 143 00:07:57,705 --> 00:08:00,202 what is likely going to be a tough day today. 144 00:08:00,202 --> 00:08:01,601 but we want to certainly start 145 00:08:01,601 --> 00:08:03,010 with thanks to council. 146 00:08:03,010 --> 00:08:05,292 I also want to extend sincere 147 00:08:05,292 --> 00:08:06,599 thanks to the entire leadership 148 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:07,840 team here at the county. 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,870 it does take a village to prepare a budget. 150 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:13,448 this process started many, many 151 00:08:13,448 --> 00:08:14,370 months ago. 152 00:08:14,370 --> 00:08:15,809 everyone in this room and many 153 00:08:15,809 --> 00:08:20,302 who are not in this room contributed to the success of 154 00:08:20,302 --> 00:08:21,813 the document you are going to 155 00:08:21,813 --> 00:08:22,062 see today. 156 00:08:22,062 --> 00:08:26,234 this was a challenging year, as 157 00:08:26,234 --> 00:08:27,523 the warden noted. 158 00:08:27,523 --> 00:08:29,252 with cost pressures affecting 159 00:08:29,252 --> 00:08:30,436 every aspect of our operations 160 00:08:30,436 --> 00:08:30,436 . 161 00:08:30,436 --> 00:08:31,478 our staff across all departments 162 00:08:31,478 --> 00:08:35,531 deserve recognition for crafting 163 00:08:35,531 --> 00:08:37,433 a fiscally responsible budget 164 00:08:37,433 --> 00:08:38,911 that stays through to joe's stays true. 165 00:08:38,911 --> 00:08:40,082 staff carefully assess whether 166 00:08:40,082 --> 00:08:43,261 every dollar could have the greatest impact and maintaining 167 00:08:43,261 --> 00:08:47,900 vital services will making significant targeted investments in health care, and 168 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:48,874 for structure, housing supports 169 00:08:48,874 --> 00:08:49,596 and public safety. 170 00:08:49,596 --> 00:08:52,076 your admin team has tried to do 171 00:08:52,076 --> 00:08:53,562 the heavy lifting for you today 172 00:08:53,562 --> 00:08:53,562 . 173 00:08:53,562 --> 00:08:55,529 hopefully you will see that this 174 00:08:55,529 --> 00:08:59,571 budget has tried to weigh spending against the risk of deferral. 175 00:08:59,571 --> 00:09:03,076 it presents a budget that is in 176 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:06,427 line with inflation while maintaining the levels of service our county residents demand. 177 00:09:06,427 --> 00:09:10,852 each year, we do truck try to 178 00:09:10,852 --> 00:09:12,620 improve upon the process and we 179 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:14,486 tried that once again this year 180 00:09:14,486 --> 00:09:14,486 . 181 00:09:14,486 --> 00:09:16,538 part of the role that I tried 182 00:09:16,538 --> 00:09:20,247 to play in helping the team was meeting with each of county council throughout the year to 183 00:09:20,247 --> 00:09:22,797 have discussions on what your 184 00:09:22,797 --> 00:09:24,493 budget priorities were, and suggestions for improvement on 185 00:09:24,493 --> 00:09:25,012 the process. 186 00:09:25,012 --> 00:09:27,160 and so again, I want to thank 187 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,607 council for your engagement in 188 00:09:28,607 --> 00:09:30,143 those meetings and the valuable 189 00:09:30,143 --> 00:09:31,488 insights and suggestions that 190 00:09:31,488 --> 00:09:33,111 you gave that helped form the 191 00:09:33,111 --> 00:09:34,570 experience we hope you will enjoy today. 192 00:09:34,570 --> 00:09:39,447 the goal of any budget is to action our strategic plan, as 193 00:09:39,447 --> 00:09:39,965 the warden said. 194 00:09:39,965 --> 00:09:42,618 this budget we feel does support 195 00:09:42,618 --> 00:09:44,817 a number of key strategies in 196 00:09:44,817 --> 00:09:45,071 our plan. 197 00:09:45,071 --> 00:09:46,982 that takes me to the report that 198 00:09:46,982 --> 00:09:48,997 is in your agenda package this 199 00:09:48,997 --> 00:09:49,252 morning. 200 00:09:49,252 --> 00:09:50,980 as promised at our last council 201 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:54,050 meeting we are looking to formalize our advocacy approach 202 00:09:54,050 --> 00:09:59,866 in both a policy as well as formalizing advocacy priorities 203 00:09:59,866 --> 00:10:01,861 for council as we enter in to 204 00:10:01,861 --> 00:10:01,861 26 26. 205 00:10:01,861 --> 00:10:08,649 the report this morning does seek council's input and direction for a focused of cacique campaign for next year 206 00:10:08,649 --> 00:10:08,649 . 207 00:10:08,649 --> 00:10:11,460 on the second page of my report 208 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:14,097 , you will see a number of proposed advocacy priorities for 209 00:10:14,097 --> 00:10:14,821 your consideration today. 210 00:10:14,821 --> 00:10:20,212 these priorities speak to specific needs within the county 211 00:10:20,212 --> 00:10:21,889 but they are also aligned quite 212 00:10:21,889 --> 00:10:27,998 nicely with the advocacy approaches and priorities of agencies above us. 213 00:10:27,998 --> 00:10:30,316 so amo, the western ontario warden 214 00:10:30,316 --> 00:10:32,578 warden's caucus, and most importantly the province. 215 00:10:32,578 --> 00:10:34,438 it is important that what we do 216 00:10:34,438 --> 00:10:35,893 here mina simply does aligned 217 00:10:35,893 --> 00:10:36,394 with provincial priorities. 218 00:10:36,394 --> 00:10:42,511 each of these priorities has been incorporated to some varying degree in the proposed 219 00:10:42,511 --> 00:10:44,478 budget you are going to get a 220 00:10:44,478 --> 00:10:44,729 walk-through today. 221 00:10:44,729 --> 00:10:47,581 very quickly, these are outlined 222 00:10:47,581 --> 00:10:52,637 in the report, improving mobility and roadway capacity. 223 00:10:52,637 --> 00:10:55,296 our road network is vital to the 224 00:10:55,296 --> 00:10:57,028 linkages and economy in our region. 225 00:10:57,028 --> 00:10:58,268 you will see a focused there. 226 00:10:58,268 --> 00:11:01,213 ensuring safe, affordable homes 227 00:11:01,213 --> 00:11:02,435 as a foundation for sustainable 228 00:11:02,435 --> 00:11:02,939 community growth. 229 00:11:02,939 --> 00:11:08,523 as you know in 2025, we completed our regional affordable housing strategy and 230 00:11:08,523 --> 00:11:10,134 we are looking to advance those 231 00:11:10,134 --> 00:11:11,123 conversations with our locals, 232 00:11:11,123 --> 00:11:14,301 and see what we can do is a region to help move the housing 233 00:11:14,301 --> 00:11:14,785 goals forward. 234 00:11:14,785 --> 00:11:18,839 the third is improving access 235 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:20,095 to health care and paramedic service modernization. 236 00:11:20,095 --> 00:11:23,713 we have a number of our ems folks in the audience as well 237 00:11:23,713 --> 00:11:27,492 today and we have a fantastic 238 00:11:27,492 --> 00:11:29,297 group at our long-term care home 239 00:11:29,297 --> 00:11:29,805 as well. 240 00:11:29,805 --> 00:11:31,675 we are looking to really focus 241 00:11:31,675 --> 00:11:34,880 our efforts and optimize the scarce resources we have to provide those services. 242 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,869 the fourth item we are looking 243 00:11:37,869 --> 00:11:40,901 to focus on in 2026 is advancing 244 00:11:40,901 --> 00:11:41,370 environmental stewardship. 245 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:43,959 as you know, our geography is 246 00:11:43,959 --> 00:11:45,209 unique in the province when we 247 00:11:45,209 --> 00:11:46,439 are surrounded by great lakes 248 00:11:46,439 --> 00:11:52,057 and with that joy and environmental luxury does come 249 00:11:52,057 --> 00:11:53,303 some specific challenges for our 250 00:11:53,303 --> 00:11:54,733 region particularly in the form 251 00:11:54,733 --> 00:12:00,900 of flooding and shoreline erosion and also wanting to be 252 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:02,364 prepared from an emergency management perspective. 253 00:12:02,364 --> 00:12:06,504 the fifth item we've identified 254 00:12:06,504 --> 00:12:08,670 for council's consideration is 255 00:12:08,670 --> 00:12:09,630 economic development trade stability. 256 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:11,261 it is no surprise and we've said 257 00:12:11,261 --> 00:12:12,835 this many times during 2025, the 258 00:12:12,835 --> 00:12:18,359 impacts of tariffs and cross-border trade tensions impact the essex county region 259 00:12:18,359 --> 00:12:24,430 more amplified then I either other areas of the province. 260 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:26,196 as a county government, we're 261 00:12:26,196 --> 00:12:28,729 looking to make sure the province is aware of our issues 262 00:12:28,729 --> 00:12:31,137 and we are representing the needs of our business community 263 00:12:31,137 --> 00:12:31,137 . 264 00:12:31,137 --> 00:12:34,514 in the report, you will see a 265 00:12:34,514 --> 00:12:35,222 number of advocacy opportunities 266 00:12:35,222 --> 00:12:35,986 for next year. 267 00:12:35,986 --> 00:12:37,521 we are looking to delegate at 268 00:12:37,521 --> 00:12:40,592 various conferences, at roma and 269 00:12:40,592 --> 00:12:41,436 amo as usual. 270 00:12:41,436 --> 00:12:44,247 also looking to participate in 271 00:12:44,247 --> 00:12:46,463 the western ontario wardens caucus queen's park today, which 272 00:12:46,463 --> 00:12:48,426 would be a new event for us in 273 00:12:48,426 --> 00:12:48,926 the spring. 274 00:12:48,926 --> 00:12:51,185 of course ongoing meetings and 275 00:12:51,185 --> 00:12:51,905 intentional conversations with 276 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:53,158 our local mps and mpps. 277 00:12:53,158 --> 00:12:56,331 in terms of next steps, council 278 00:12:56,331 --> 00:12:57,820 with your direction today, we 279 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:05,619 would be action inc. These priorities in terms of print materials and information on our 280 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:07,506 public facing social media and county website. 281 00:13:07,506 --> 00:13:11,405 in terms of financial considerations while there is 282 00:13:11,405 --> 00:13:16,585 an element of cost, we have waived these against the proposed budget and we are confident the proposed budget 283 00:13:16,585 --> 00:13:22,580 includes enough funding to action the strategies we've outlined for council consideration today. 284 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:28,776 the report this morning does give council a bit of meat on 285 00:13:28,776 --> 00:13:34,077 the bone to chew on but certainly we are looking to council to get your input and 286 00:13:34,077 --> 00:13:35,509 your official direction on the 287 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:36,766 advocacy priorities you would 288 00:13:36,766 --> 00:13:37,738 like to see in 2026. 289 00:13:37,738 --> 00:13:39,226 with that, I would be happy to 290 00:13:39,226 --> 00:13:40,436 answer any of your questions. 291 00:13:40,436 --> 00:13:43,499 >> thank you. 292 00:13:43,499 --> 00:13:44,256 any questions for administration 293 00:13:44,256 --> 00:13:44,256  administration? 294 00:13:44,256 --> 00:13:44,932 councilor prue. 295 00:13:44,932 --> 00:13:48,466 >> thank you, madame borden. 296 00:13:48,466 --> 00:13:53,106 I read with some interest the 297 00:13:53,106 --> 00:13:54,350 delegation to go to queen's park 298 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:54,350 . 299 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:59,123 it seemed like it wasn't funded 300 00:13:59,123 --> 00:13:59,981 by very much. 301 00:13:59,981 --> 00:14:03,778 is that because we are going with the western ontario wardens 302 00:14:03,778 --> 00:14:07,269 so -- I'm just trying to figure 303 00:14:07,269 --> 00:14:07,777 it out. 304 00:14:07,777 --> 00:14:08,312 it's only $4000. 305 00:14:08,312 --> 00:14:17,067 >> yes, we considered this activity on our own as a county 306 00:14:17,067 --> 00:14:17,321 government. 307 00:14:17,321 --> 00:14:20,346 there was considerable cost associated with that and never 308 00:14:20,346 --> 00:14:20,346 . 309 00:14:20,346 --> 00:14:23,983 we did learn late this fall that 310 00:14:23,983 --> 00:14:27,998 the western ontario wardens caucus does an annual queen's 311 00:14:27,998 --> 00:14:29,583 park day, and in 2026, they are 312 00:14:29,583 --> 00:14:33,103 inviting all members to display 313 00:14:33,103 --> 00:14:36,835 a table, have a booth, and we 314 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:42,133 can essentially piggyback on their efforts to set up an advocacy day at queen's park. 315 00:14:42,133 --> 00:14:47,483 it certainly has reduced the cost for the county and we are 316 00:14:47,483 --> 00:14:49,255 leveraging our membership to make that happen. 317 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,899 >> thank you. 318 00:14:51,899 --> 00:14:58,878 having attended hundreds of these things in my years at queen's park, they tend to be 319 00:14:58,878 --> 00:14:59,366 rather large affairs. 320 00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:06,475 the tables showcase products and 321 00:15:06,475 --> 00:15:07,948 services from each of the regions. 322 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:13,474 I would imagine we would take 323 00:15:13,474 --> 00:15:15,037 down wine and other things that 324 00:15:15,037 --> 00:15:16,025 are from the region. 325 00:15:16,025 --> 00:15:19,636 is that the intent? 326 00:15:19,636 --> 00:15:21,277 that we have that kind of stuff 327 00:15:21,277 --> 00:15:21,793 to showcase? 328 00:15:21,793 --> 00:15:25,814 texas county? 329 00:15:25,814 --> 00:15:28,015 >> planning is in the early stages. 330 00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:31,008 we will work quite closely with 331 00:15:31,008 --> 00:15:33,662 the staff to make sure what we 332 00:15:33,662 --> 00:15:36,151 are delivering to represent essex county is comparable to 333 00:15:36,151 --> 00:15:44,713 what other members are doing that conversation will take place administratively and certainly as appropriate, we can 334 00:15:44,713 --> 00:15:46,986 bring back a proposal to county 335 00:15:46,986 --> 00:15:49,627 council so county council is aware of the level of effort. 336 00:15:49,627 --> 00:15:51,705 it certainly is an opportunity 337 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:55,055 that county is representing seven local municipalities and 338 00:15:55,055 --> 00:16:01,263 so while they are looking to showcase the county of essex proper it is a really nice opportunity to showcase what is 339 00:16:01,263 --> 00:16:02,737 happening in each of our seven 340 00:16:02,737 --> 00:16:02,960 locals. 341 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,780 we will be in touch with administrative teams as well to 342 00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:08,069 see how we can best leverage this opportunity. 343 00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:10,555 >> are you confident that the 344 00:16:10,555 --> 00:16:11,784 amount set aside, which I think 345 00:16:11,784 --> 00:16:12,973 is fairly small, a sufficient? 346 00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:14,822 >> we are confident. 347 00:16:14,822 --> 00:16:15,116 >> thank you. 348 00:16:15,116 --> 00:16:17,082 >> anyone else? 349 00:16:17,082 --> 00:16:22,183 councilor akpata. 350 00:16:22,183 --> 00:16:23,814 >> I appreciate this. 351 00:16:23,814 --> 00:16:25,967 I'm wondering if we are looking 352 00:16:25,967 --> 00:16:29,608 at doing outside of the box final engagements because our 353 00:16:29,608 --> 00:16:32,609 minister polities have been impacted by international decisions with his -- which is 354 00:16:32,609 --> 00:16:34,237 the exclusive purview of the federal government. 355 00:16:34,237 --> 00:16:39,467 even in our own facilities, we've seen cost rise beyond the 356 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:41,499 scope of what the province can 357 00:16:41,499 --> 00:16:41,747 do. 358 00:16:41,747 --> 00:16:46,101 I'm wondering through you, madame borden, if the ceo has 359 00:16:46,101 --> 00:16:47,613 any ideas that may help all of 360 00:16:47,613 --> 00:16:47,830 us? 361 00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:51,717 >> through you, worden, you will 362 00:16:51,717 --> 00:16:53,809 notice one of the items in the 363 00:16:53,809 --> 00:16:56,097 list is meetings with mps and 364 00:16:56,097 --> 00:16:56,097 mpps. 365 00:16:56,097 --> 00:17:04,866 is something we have historically focused on and councilor akpata, you are correct that the federal connection probably hasn't been 366 00:17:04,866 --> 00:17:06,905 as strong at the county as we 367 00:17:06,905 --> 00:17:07,394 can make it. 368 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:10,564 the goal in 2026 is to seek out 369 00:17:10,564 --> 00:17:12,968 those opportunities for hopefully one on one conversations with mps. 370 00:17:12,968 --> 00:17:18,865 we have found that the conversations are more candid 371 00:17:18,865 --> 00:17:19,856 and often more productive when 372 00:17:19,856 --> 00:17:24,256 you can meet with members of either the province of the federal government in a smaller 373 00:17:24,256 --> 00:17:29,430 setting rather than in a conference 15 minute speed dating situation. 374 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:33,231 we will be looking administratively to seek out those opportunities to meet with 375 00:17:33,231 --> 00:17:33,717 our mps. 376 00:17:33,717 --> 00:17:37,751 >> a supplemental, if I may. 377 00:17:37,751 --> 00:17:38,299 I saw that. 378 00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:42,362 I'm looking for -- my friend spoke about queen's park day. 379 00:17:42,362 --> 00:17:44,099 I know perhaps down the road, 380 00:17:44,099 --> 00:17:49,824 may be the house might be something we could engage in various departments. 381 00:17:49,824 --> 00:17:53,838 I look at what's going on, to 382 00:17:53,838 --> 00:17:54,805 lay with the infrastructure bill 383 00:17:54,805 --> 00:17:56,300 that's going on that's going to 384 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:58,242 connect windsor and detroit. 385 00:17:58,242 --> 00:17:59,572 it's affecting this a polities 386 00:17:59,572 --> 00:17:59,822 here. 387 00:17:59,822 --> 00:18:03,857 I want to make sure as we go down this path, we don't eliminate anything that's going 388 00:18:03,857 --> 00:18:05,611 to affect the dollars that we 389 00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:05,611 spend. 390 00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:06,419 that solemn looking for. 391 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:07,149 >> thank you. 392 00:18:07,149 --> 00:18:07,439 anyone else? 393 00:18:07,439 --> 00:18:13,676 >> thank you, madame warden. 394 00:18:13,676 --> 00:18:16,886 I'm supportive of the five parties and read them -- ready 395 00:18:16,886 --> 00:18:20,114 to move them and endorse all five under the recommendation 396 00:18:20,114 --> 00:18:20,600 when you are. 397 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,894 >> if there are no further comments we will come back to 398 00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:24,131 you. 399 00:18:24,131 --> 00:18:25,339 I will read the recommendation 400 00:18:25,339 --> 00:18:26,125 first. 401 00:18:26,125 --> 00:18:29,012 that is that essex county council received report number 402 00:18:29,012 --> 00:18:33,589  number 2025 s1 203ca o-letter, 403 00:18:33,589 --> 00:18:34,850  o-letter, county of essex 2026 404 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:42,667 advocacy priorities as information and direct administration -- into the county 405 00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:43,624 county's advocacy strategy and 406 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:44,358 2026 advocacy calendar. 407 00:18:44,358 --> 00:18:48,521 that is moved by councilor rogers. 408 00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:49,727 looking for a second or. 409 00:18:49,727 --> 00:18:51,818 councilor meloche. 410 00:18:51,818 --> 00:18:54,588 any discussion on the motion itself? 411 00:18:54,588 --> 00:18:56,625 seeing on, I ask you to vote electronically. 412 00:18:56,625 --> 00:19:16,868 >> that's carried unanimously. 413 00:19:16,868 --> 00:19:16,937 thank you. 414 00:19:16,937 --> 00:19:21,786 this is where the rubber hits 415 00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:22,023 the road. 416 00:19:22,023 --> 00:19:25,956 2026 budget overview treasuries 417 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:26,192 report. 418 00:19:26,192 --> 00:19:29,701 for this report, melissa ryan. 419 00:19:29,701 --> 00:19:30,311 over to you. 420 00:19:30,311 --> 00:19:33,108 >> thank you, wardens. 421 00:19:33,108 --> 00:19:33,188 good morning. 422 00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:37,918 thank you for joining the county 423 00:19:37,918 --> 00:19:42,068 administration team today to kick off our 2026 county budget 424 00:19:42,068 --> 00:19:42,319 deliberations. 425 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,773 this morning, I will provide a 426 00:19:44,773 --> 00:19:46,007 high-level overview of the 2026 427 00:19:46,007 --> 00:19:50,062 budget our priorities, the pressures we are facing and what 428 00:19:50,062 --> 00:19:51,322 this means for residents today 429 00:19:51,322 --> 00:19:52,589 and for our long-term stability 430 00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:52,589 . 431 00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:54,385 to start off, I would like to 432 00:19:54,385 --> 00:19:55,661 take a moment to acknowledge all 433 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:57,148 of the county staff who worked 434 00:19:57,148 --> 00:19:58,405 on preparing this year's budget 435 00:19:58,405 --> 00:19:58,405 . 436 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,901 sitting beside me is heidi mc mcleod our manager of accounting and deputy treasurer 437 00:20:02,901 --> 00:20:04,651 , what's been key in keeping us 438 00:20:04,651 --> 00:20:05,891 organize along with her team of 439 00:20:05,891 --> 00:20:12,437 financial analysts, whose attention to detail made this 440 00:20:12,437 --> 00:20:12,936 process run smoothly. 441 00:20:12,936 --> 00:20:14,459 I would also like to thank our 442 00:20:14,459 --> 00:20:17,165 cao and senior leadership team 443 00:20:17,165 --> 00:20:23,784 for their insight and participation throughout the process as well as our communications and council services team for helping make 444 00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,007 the budget clear and accessible 445 00:20:25,007 --> 00:20:25,007 . 446 00:20:25,007 --> 00:20:27,069 I would also like to thank all 447 00:20:27,069 --> 00:20:29,299 others in the county who supported this budget process. 448 00:20:29,299 --> 00:20:33,443 this really has been a countywide collaborative effort 449 00:20:33,443 --> 00:20:34,731 built on trust, teamwork and commitment. 450 00:20:34,731 --> 00:20:38,339 our goal, just as has been over 451 00:20:38,339 --> 00:20:40,277 the past four years that this 452 00:20:40,277 --> 00:20:42,159 council has been at the table 453 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:45,998 remain simple, maintain stability deliver value and plan responsibly for our future 454 00:20:45,998 --> 00:20:45,998 . 455 00:20:45,998 --> 00:20:49,049 we want to make sure our financial decisions continue to 456 00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:50,021 align with council's priorities 457 00:20:50,021 --> 00:20:50,805 and community needs. 458 00:20:50,805 --> 00:20:55,657 today's agenda starts with a general overview followed by departmental presentations. 459 00:20:55,657 --> 00:20:58,630 after each one, there will be 460 00:20:58,630 --> 00:21:00,203 an opportunity for questions and 461 00:21:00,203 --> 00:21:00,203 discussion. 462 00:21:00,203 --> 00:21:01,941 council can decide whether to 463 00:21:01,941 --> 00:21:05,672 receive the information for further review later today or 464 00:21:05,672 --> 00:21:06,895 to receive and approve the department 465 00:21:06,895 --> 00:21:10,266 department's 2026 budget if there's a consensus to move forward. 466 00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:15,859 to keep everyone focused and energized we are planning breaks at 10:30, noon and 2:30 467 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:15,859 . 468 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:17,503 it will stay flexible depending 469 00:21:17,503 --> 00:21:18,489 how the discussion close. 470 00:21:18,489 --> 00:21:21,040 we will also have a quick break 471 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,262 before finalizing the levy recommendation to make sure any 472 00:21:23,262 --> 00:21:24,982 adjustments from today's discussions are accurately reflected. 473 00:21:24,982 --> 00:21:28,946 the 2026 budget process began 474 00:21:28,946 --> 00:21:32,169 in may of 2025 with planning sessions and departmental reviews. 475 00:21:32,169 --> 00:21:34,638 we aimed to make this project 476 00:21:34,638 --> 00:21:36,052 more strategic, ensuring that 477 00:21:36,052 --> 00:21:38,208 every dollar aligns with council 478 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,414 parties and community expectations. 479 00:21:39,414 --> 00:21:40,896 after laster's budget, we held 480 00:21:40,896 --> 00:21:47,422 a debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. 481 00:21:41,908 --> 00:21:47,422 The feedback shaped the 2026 482 00:21:41,908 --> 00:21:47,422 Process. 483 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. 484 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 The feedback shaped the 2026 485 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 Process. 486 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. 487 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 The feedback shaped the 2026 488 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 Process. 489 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. 490 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 The feedback shaped the 2026 491 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422 Process. 492 00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:57,448 by november, the full 2026 budget was finalized and provided to council and the public. 493 00:21:57,448 --> 00:22:00,568 throughout, we focused on fundamentals. 494 00:22:00,568 --> 00:22:04,103 we started with our 2025 base 495 00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:05,861 budget factoring in contractual 496 00:22:05,861 --> 00:22:12,293 increases reviewing departmental work plans, studying assumptions around inflation and row and ensuring 497 00:22:12,293 --> 00:22:13,954 every decision supports long-term sustainability. 498 00:22:13,954 --> 00:22:15,525 while the document itself may 499 00:22:15,525 --> 00:22:21,042 be 163 pages, it's really the result of months of collaboration planning and a 500 00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:22,777 lot of caffeine, all aimed at 501 00:22:22,777 --> 00:22:25,413 delivering a budget that balances today's needs with tomorrow's goals. 502 00:22:25,413 --> 00:22:27,905 as we look at what is shaping 503 00:22:27,905 --> 00:22:29,706 the 2026 budget, there are a few 504 00:22:29,706 --> 00:22:30,964 big drivers we can't ignore. 505 00:22:30,964 --> 00:22:31,500 first is inflation. 506 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:35,023 yes, it is finally starting to 507 00:22:35,023 --> 00:22:36,456 stabilize which is great news 508 00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:41,092 but we are still feeling its impacts in some key areas, especially in certain contracts 509 00:22:41,092 --> 00:22:42,574 with materials, software, vehicles and wages. 510 00:22:42,574 --> 00:22:47,858 next we are managing steady growth across the county which 511 00:22:47,858 --> 00:22:48,467 adds pressure. 512 00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:50,897 each new subdivision, road or 513 00:22:50,897 --> 00:22:54,165 community initiative create ripple effects that require planning funding and people to 514 00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:54,414 deliver. 515 00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,451 it's a good problem to have. 516 00:22:56,451 --> 00:22:58,556 growth is the sign of a healthy 517 00:22:58,556 --> 00:23:00,033 county but it requires thoughtful balancing. 518 00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:03,081 speaking of people, let's talk 519 00:23:03,081 --> 00:23:03,819 about human resources. 520 00:23:03,819 --> 00:23:05,112 2026 will be a busy year. 521 00:23:05,112 --> 00:23:09,146 a key phase with five collective 522 00:23:09,146 --> 00:23:10,396 agreements coming up for negotiation. 523 00:23:10,396 --> 00:23:13,141 at the same time, we focus on 524 00:23:13,141 --> 00:23:17,824 retention and succession planning making sure we continue to attract and keep talented skilled staff because 525 00:23:17,824 --> 00:23:21,270 at the end of the day, our people are the ones who make the 526 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:21,766 services happen. 527 00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:25,186 at the heart of this budget is 528 00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:25,686 fiscal responsibility. 529 00:23:25,686 --> 00:23:26,873 our approach remains consistent 530 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:27,484 hereafter year. 531 00:23:27,484 --> 00:23:29,238 we focus on maintaining service 532 00:23:29,238 --> 00:23:30,530 levels honouring commitments 533 00:23:30,530 --> 00:23:32,169 to community and making decisions 534 00:23:32,169 --> 00:23:33,891 today that don't compromise tomorrow's financial stability 535 00:23:33,891 --> 00:23:33,891 . 536 00:23:33,891 --> 00:23:38,383 I am proud to say that that approach continues to serve us 537 00:23:38,383 --> 00:23:38,621 well. 538 00:23:38,621 --> 00:23:40,830 the county is recognized for its 539 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:45,380 strong fiscal management, a solid credit rating and a pay-as-you-go philosophy that 540 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:48,022 helps us limit that and keep control of our financial future 541 00:23:48,022 --> 00:23:48,022 . 542 00:23:48,022 --> 00:23:50,230 of course, that doesn't mean it's easy. 543 00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:54,548 we are still navigating challenges things like rising 544 00:23:54,548 --> 00:23:55,286 operational and timber structure 545 00:23:55,286 --> 00:23:56,822 cost increasing land prices, 546 00:23:56,822 --> 00:23:59,285 limited provincial funding and 547 00:23:59,285 --> 00:24:00,469 ongoing deferral of property tax 548 00:24:00,469 --> 00:24:00,731 reassessment. 549 00:24:00,731 --> 00:24:03,719 to manage these challenges, we 550 00:24:03,719 --> 00:24:05,922 come back to our guiding budget 551 00:24:05,922 --> 00:24:08,310 principles which include maintaining essential service 552 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:11,345 levels honouring our commitments and prioritizing long-term stability. 553 00:24:11,345 --> 00:24:14,365 these principles keep us grounded to help ensure we are 554 00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:16,662 not just reacting to short-term 555 00:24:16,662 --> 00:24:20,325 pressures but building a balanced looking budget that reflects both fiscal discipline 556 00:24:20,325 --> 00:24:21,061 and community priorities. 557 00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:25,018 this slide gives a high-level 558 00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:26,442 look at the 2026 county budget 559 00:24:26,442 --> 00:24:26,442 . 560 00:24:26,442 --> 00:24:28,177 the total proposed budget comes 561 00:24:28,177 --> 00:24:34,917 in at 145.7 million, with 96.8 million dedicated to operations and 48.9 million for 562 00:24:34,917 --> 00:24:37,008 capital. 563 00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:38,974 the result is a proposed 2.5% 564 00:24:38,974 --> 00:24:45,021 -- it works out to be $51.84 a year 565 00:24:45,021 --> 00:24:46,514 for an average home assessed at 566 00:24:46,514 --> 00:24:46,764 350,000. 567 00:24:46,764 --> 00:24:49,893 what I want to emphasize here 568 00:24:49,893 --> 00:24:52,754 is that the budget isn't about across-the-board increases, it's 569 00:24:52,754 --> 00:24:53,742 about strategic investments with 570 00:24:53,742 --> 00:24:54,230 measurable impact. 571 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:59,210 every dollar has a purpose and 572 00:24:59,210 --> 00:25:00,776 to be our advancing council's 573 00:25:00,776 --> 00:25:01,798 priorities in a sustainable way 574 00:25:01,798 --> 00:25:01,798 . 575 00:25:01,798 --> 00:25:07,076 a quick fun fact that I am typically asked by council is 576 00:25:07,076 --> 00:25:07,811 that everyone present changing 577 00:25:07,811 --> 00:25:11,369 the tax rate equals about 1.42 million in levy dollars. 578 00:25:11,369 --> 00:25:15,167 I will just add, our team did 579 00:25:15,167 --> 00:25:16,174 some heavy lifting this year. 580 00:25:16,174 --> 00:25:18,835 we started with a potential 13.3 581 00:25:18,835 --> 00:25:19,912 million-dollar levy increase and 582 00:25:19,912 --> 00:25:22,924 through internal reviews and incorporating growth, we brought 583 00:25:22,924 --> 00:25:25,239 that down to 5.7 million. 584 00:25:25,239 --> 00:25:27,972 that is a reduction of seven-point 6 million before the 585 00:25:27,972 --> 00:25:28,945 budget even reached council. 586 00:25:28,945 --> 00:25:33,674 this slide shows the infamous 587 00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:35,887 loony graph indicating what portion of your tax dollar goes 588 00:25:35,887 --> 00:25:37,057 to each department. 589 00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:38,841 the largest year, as you can see 590 00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:40,744  see, was timber structure and 591 00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:41,928 planning followed by external 592 00:25:41,928 --> 00:25:42,925 commitments which are for things 593 00:25:42,925 --> 00:25:44,680 like public health and social 594 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,418 services and regional initiatives. 595 00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:48,845 this slide gives a snapshot of 596 00:25:48,845 --> 00:25:50,514 where we have been and where we 597 00:25:50,514 --> 00:25:52,706 are heading in terms of tax rate 598 00:25:52,706 --> 00:25:54,184 changes and inflation from 2021 599 00:25:54,184 --> 00:25:54,435 to 2026. 600 00:25:54,435 --> 00:26:01,142 we talk about inflation, is important to remember we are not 601 00:26:01,142 --> 00:26:02,375 just talking about regular cpi 602 00:26:02,375 --> 00:26:03,591 that affects groceries and clothing. 603 00:26:03,591 --> 00:26:06,666 for municipalities, our shopping 604 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,301 list looks a little different. 605 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:10,689 things like asphalt, concrete 606 00:26:10,689 --> 00:26:11,660 and construction materials are 607 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:15,299 all tied to nonresidential construction inflation, which 608 00:26:15,299 --> 00:26:16,032 tends to rise faster. 609 00:26:16,032 --> 00:26:17,689 even if general inflation cools 610 00:26:17,689 --> 00:26:19,396 , our project cost don't always 611 00:26:19,396 --> 00:26:19,650 follow suit. 612 00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:28,072 big picture, our tax rate increases have historically stayed at or below inflation which has helped keep things affordable for residents but it 613 00:26:28,072 --> 00:26:29,519 also means we have years where 614 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:31,255 we are just catching up after 615 00:26:31,255 --> 00:26:32,543 holding the line for so long. 616 00:26:32,543 --> 00:26:37,100 for 2026, we are still in balance mode, managing inflation 617 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,469  inflation, funding big capital 618 00:26:38,469 --> 00:26:42,494 priorities like the roadway expansion program, the new windsor-essex hospital, the ms 619 00:26:42,494 --> 00:26:43,711 master plan and social services 620 00:26:43,711 --> 00:26:47,114 while keeping the increase moderate and sustainable. 621 00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:48,864 overall, this trend shows what 622 00:26:48,864 --> 00:26:51,247 I think is a responsible story, 623 00:26:51,247 --> 00:26:53,047 study deliberate adjustment to 624 00:26:53,047 --> 00:26:56,804 keep up with inflation and growth while continuing to invest where it matters most. 625 00:26:56,804 --> 00:27:01,622 this next line shows how we arrived at our 2026 levy requirement. 626 00:27:01,622 --> 00:27:05,932 we started with the 2025 base 627 00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:07,494 levy and added increases from 628 00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:12,026 each department bringing the total to approximately 145.7 million. 629 00:27:12,026 --> 00:27:13,169 the main departmental increases 630 00:27:13,169 --> 00:27:15,169 that affect the levy include the 631 00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:20,934 addition of eight paramedic positions one human resources 632 00:27:20,934 --> 00:27:22,135 assistant and one human resource 633 00:27:22,135 --> 00:27:22,383 generalist. 634 00:27:22,383 --> 00:27:28,535 residential and homelessness services we have increased per  per diem funding for residential 635 00:27:28,535 --> 00:27:31,068 services and we have also expanded the county's overnight 636 00:27:31,068 --> 00:27:31,570 homelessness program. 637 00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:40,550 additional levy dollars were included to close the asset management planned gap and also 638 00:27:40,550 --> 00:27:43,266 levy dollars were put into support the roadway expansion 639 00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:43,266 program. 640 00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:46,314 there were some levy dollars for 641 00:27:46,314 --> 00:27:47,048 enhanced recreational programming. 642 00:27:47,048 --> 00:27:51,508 we did increase our funding for 643 00:27:51,508 --> 00:27:56,479 drainage management with council 644 00:27:56,479 --> 00:27:56,746 direction. 645 00:27:56,746 --> 00:27:58,230 for social services and housing 646 00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:00,317 , you will see higher operational 647 00:28:00,317 --> 00:28:04,475 cost which have been communicated to us by the service manager at the city of 648 00:28:04,475 --> 00:28:04,690 windsor. 649 00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:08,012 we also have our hospital reserve. 650 00:28:08,012 --> 00:28:12,836 we are continuing with that funding model presented to council. 651 00:28:12,836 --> 00:28:15,726 that's funding strategy was already provided and we do see 652 00:28:15,726 --> 00:28:16,689 an increase in that. 653 00:28:16,689 --> 00:28:19,020 other large increases that are 654 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:19,980 reserve funded include facility 655 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:23,888 updates such as accessibility 656 00:28:23,888 --> 00:28:25,429 improvements to the elevator and 657 00:28:25,429 --> 00:28:30,342 basement floor and there are going to be basement floor repairs at the county administration building. 658 00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:33,862 for ems facilities characters 659 00:28:33,862 --> 00:28:36,485 increase funding for the ems station maintenance. 660 00:28:36,485 --> 00:28:38,817 there's also a service delivery 661 00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:41,462 review for infrastructure and 662 00:28:41,462 --> 00:28:43,097 planning services included as 663 00:28:43,097 --> 00:28:44,069 well as investments in workforce 664 00:28:44,069 --> 00:28:45,074 planning and I.t. Initiatives. 665 00:28:45,074 --> 00:28:48,928 I would like to highlight a few 666 00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:50,166 key items that have influenced 667 00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:51,375 the county's overall budget. 668 00:28:51,375 --> 00:28:54,526 you will see a common theme throughout all of the various 669 00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:54,526 departments. 670 00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:58,241 first we have about 3 million 671 00:28:58,241 --> 00:29:00,206 in contractual salary increases that council is already approved 672 00:29:00,206 --> 00:29:02,008 for various nonunion and union 673 00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:03,677 groups as well as anticipated 674 00:29:03,677 --> 00:29:04,635 outcomes of some collective agreements. 675 00:29:04,635 --> 00:29:07,034 with those increases, there are 676 00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:08,275 increases in the benefits cost 677 00:29:08,275 --> 00:29:08,773 as well. 678 00:29:08,773 --> 00:29:11,489 next we have some dollars that 679 00:29:11,489 --> 00:29:12,690 have shifted between departments 680 00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:14,667 due to reallocation of internal 681 00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:14,903 recoveries. 682 00:29:14,903 --> 00:29:19,401 this helps ensure costs are properly assigned to the departments that support them 683 00:29:19,401 --> 00:29:22,544 and finally there are a few prebudget approvals that were 684 00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:24,822 already approved throughout 2025 685 00:29:24,822 --> 00:29:30,199 , including ems vehicle procurement and the over structure and planning services 686 00:29:30,199 --> 00:29:30,451 area. 687 00:29:30,451 --> 00:29:32,760 we have the state of good repair 688 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,146  repair, two projects that were 689 00:29:34,146 --> 00:29:36,035 approved and also the addition 690 00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:37,678 of the legal articling student 691 00:29:37,678 --> 00:29:38,660 in corporate management approved 692 00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:41,669 in 2025 in order to hire in 2026 2026. 693 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:47,063 to reach our 2.65% target, we 694 00:29:47,063 --> 00:29:48,582 did have to defer a few valuable 695 00:29:48,582 --> 00:29:48,846 initiatives. 696 00:29:48,846 --> 00:29:51,688 for those interested in appendix 697 00:29:51,688 --> 00:29:53,444 32, treasurers report, there is 698 00:29:53,444 --> 00:29:55,408 a list that has all of those items. 699 00:29:55,408 --> 00:29:59,999 many of them align with our long-term priorities and remain 700 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:00,733 on the table. 701 00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:03,525 council can still choose to include them in the budget if 702 00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:04,969 they decide they are the priority. 703 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,834 they will also be discussed at 704 00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:09,282 the department level as well if 705 00:30:09,282 --> 00:30:10,862 further details than what are 706 00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:12,092 shown in the appendix are sought 707 00:30:12,092 --> 00:30:12,342 after. 708 00:30:12,342 --> 00:30:16,535 this chart shows the counties 709 00:30:16,535 --> 00:30:17,397 full-time and part-time staffing 710 00:30:17,397 --> 00:30:17,634 levels. 711 00:30:17,634 --> 00:30:19,952 as you can see, the 2026 draft 712 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:21,430 budget includes an increase of 713 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:23,491 11 full-time positions, eight 714 00:30:23,491 --> 00:30:24,191 of which are paramedics. 715 00:30:24,191 --> 00:30:25,479 in addition, there was a request 716 00:30:25,479 --> 00:30:26,798 for the -- increased part-time 717 00:30:26,798 --> 00:30:29,147 hours for sun parlor homes staff 718 00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:29,147  staff. 719 00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:33,283 across all departments, 29 new 720 00:30:33,283 --> 00:30:34,303 positions were proposed during 721 00:30:34,303 --> 00:30:35,056 the budget process. 722 00:30:35,056 --> 00:30:40,526 through the administrative review process, that this was 723 00:30:40,526 --> 00:30:43,414 carefully evaluated based on organizational priorities and 724 00:30:43,414 --> 00:30:43,664 fiscal capacity. 725 00:30:43,664 --> 00:30:47,304 in the end, 11 full-time positions were prioritized and 726 00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:49,168 concluded in the proposed budget 727 00:30:49,168 --> 00:30:49,168  budget. 728 00:30:49,168 --> 00:30:49,962 these lima the recommendations 729 00:30:49,962 --> 00:30:56,098 by our director of human resources at the october 15 council meeting. 730 00:30:56,098 --> 00:31:01,791 looking ahead to 2026, our overall reserve position is generally on track, which is great news. 731 00:31:01,791 --> 00:31:05,645 though there are still a few areas that will need careful attention. 732 00:31:05,645 --> 00:31:08,455 our capital reserve remains underfunded which continues to 733 00:31:08,455 --> 00:31:10,174 be a challenge since we rely on 734 00:31:10,174 --> 00:31:12,456 it for large-scale -- pressures 735 00:31:12,456 --> 00:31:14,518 on the reserve will come from 736 00:31:14,518 --> 00:31:17,279 the ems master plan which includes several capital projects. 737 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,430 to address this, we have built 738 00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:21,131 in a plan to add $1 million to 739 00:31:21,131 --> 00:31:22,836 the levy each year for the next 740 00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:23,792 nine years, gradually repaying 741 00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:24,766 what we're using now. 742 00:31:24,766 --> 00:31:30,423 these reserves will also be important for the sun parlor homes project whether that ends 743 00:31:30,423 --> 00:31:31,664 up being a major redevelopment 744 00:31:31,664 --> 00:31:35,180 or rebuild depending on the results of the feasibility study 745 00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:35,180  study. 746 00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:36,120 the rate stabilization reserve 747 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,360 is slightly above target range 748 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,004 of 10% of the levy. 749 00:31:39,004 --> 00:31:40,272 we will continue to monitor that 750 00:31:40,272 --> 00:31:40,994 throughout the year. 751 00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:42,951 reserves are critical because 752 00:31:42,951 --> 00:31:45,177 they help us plan for the long  long term to -- keep tax rates 753 00:31:45,177 --> 00:31:50,490 stable when costs arrive and balance affordability between 754 00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:52,567 today's pacs -- today's taxpayers and those in the future. 755 00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:57,252 it can be tempting to use reserve debt hold taxes down, 756 00:31:57,252 --> 00:31:58,248 this isn't a sustainable approach. 757 00:31:58,248 --> 00:32:00,243 the real focus needs to remain 758 00:32:00,243 --> 00:32:02,258 on aligning service levels with 759 00:32:02,258 --> 00:32:02,762 proper funding. 760 00:32:02,762 --> 00:32:06,885 by the end of 2026, total reserves are projected to decrease by 56 million. 761 00:32:06,885 --> 00:32:11,462 that is largely due to the planned investments and roadway 762 00:32:11,462 --> 00:32:11,981 expansion projects. 763 00:32:11,981 --> 00:32:13,856 as noted in the funding model 764 00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:14,845 shared with councilor this year 765 00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:17,258 , debt for the roadway expansion 766 00:32:17,258 --> 00:32:18,729 program may be required as early 767 00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:19,451 as 2028. 768 00:32:19,451 --> 00:32:22,052 the good news is we have a plan 769 00:32:22,052 --> 00:32:24,471 to gradually replenish the reserve over the 20 year program 770 00:32:24,471 --> 00:32:24,471 . 771 00:32:24,471 --> 00:32:28,482 using our reserves also affects 772 00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:29,487 our investment income potential 773 00:32:29,487 --> 00:32:29,487 . 774 00:32:29,487 --> 00:32:31,801 interest income is estimated in 775 00:32:31,801 --> 00:32:32,525 the 2026 budget. 776 00:32:32,525 --> 00:32:37,041 we are in a good position on that front despite reserves reducing by 56 million. 777 00:32:37,041 --> 00:32:42,560 the 2026 budget faces several 778 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,545 inherent risks, many of which 779 00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:47,652 are outside the control of administration and council. 780 00:32:47,652 --> 00:32:48,485 key challenges include potential 781 00:32:48,485 --> 00:32:51,872 provincial funding reduction, 782 00:32:51,872 --> 00:32:54,623 rising ems call volumes and off-load delays, escalating cost 783 00:32:54,623 --> 00:32:56,252 for construction and essential 784 00:32:56,252 --> 00:32:58,897 supply and global inflation pressures. 785 00:32:58,897 --> 00:33:03,112 additionally, factors like winter maintenance expenses, collective bargaining outcomes 786 00:33:03,112 --> 00:33:05,673 and increasing demand for social 787 00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:07,644 services and affordable housing 788 00:33:07,644 --> 00:33:08,888 could significantly impact budget outcomes. 789 00:33:08,888 --> 00:33:10,538 council will be informed of any 790 00:33:10,538 --> 00:33:14,149 unforeseen budget pressures throughout the year with strategies developed to address 791 00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:14,902 them as needed. 792 00:33:14,902 --> 00:33:18,378 for the average homeowner with 793 00:33:18,378 --> 00:33:21,039 a property assessed at 350,000, 794 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,269 county taxes are projected to 795 00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:23,585 increase by $51.84 for the year 796 00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:23,585 . 797 00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:28,870 just a reminder that the assessed values are still being 798 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:31,286 held at 2016 assessment rates 799 00:33:31,286 --> 00:33:32,852 and there is no indicator of a 800 00:33:32,852 --> 00:33:34,094 reassessment in the near future 801 00:33:34,094 --> 00:33:34,094 . 802 00:33:34,094 --> 00:33:41,376 it's a modest and manageable increase one that balances rising service demand due to growth in inflationary cost and 803 00:33:41,376 --> 00:33:42,983 the need to keep long-term finances stable. 804 00:33:42,983 --> 00:33:44,947 the number could shift slightly 805 00:33:44,947 --> 00:33:48,504 based on final tax policy decisions which will be made in 806 00:33:48,753 --> 00:33:49,719 february of 2026 when council 807 00:33:49,719 --> 00:33:49,969 confirms rates. 808 00:33:49,969 --> 00:33:53,278 at this point, we do not foresee 809 00:33:53,278 --> 00:33:54,798 any provincial changes on the 810 00:33:54,798 --> 00:33:55,919 horizon that we believe would 811 00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:56,656 significantly affect the county 812 00:33:56,656 --> 00:33:58,958  county's tax rate but there is 813 00:33:58,958 --> 00:34:00,685 a potential factor to keep an eye 814 00:34:00,685 --> 00:34:05,021 on which is the affordable renting subclass. 815 00:34:05,021 --> 00:34:11,816 depending when and how it's implemented it could have a minor impact on the tax rate percentage but likely not a major one. 816 00:34:11,816 --> 00:34:14,606 this depends of council chooses 817 00:34:14,606 --> 00:34:17,534 to apply it and how many properties would be eligible. 818 00:34:17,534 --> 00:34:21,472 overall, we are in a strong position with the balance and 819 00:34:21,472 --> 00:34:22,650 responsible tax increase. 820 00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:26,201 in summary, the 2026 council budget is sustainable. 821 00:34:26,201 --> 00:34:28,658 it supports residence, protects 822 00:34:28,658 --> 00:34:29,979 infrastructure and positions the 823 00:34:29,979 --> 00:34:30,982 county to meet needs. 824 00:34:30,982 --> 00:34:34,250 we will now move on to the departmental presentation where 825 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:35,518 each leader will provide details 826 00:34:35,518 --> 00:34:36,506 on their 2026 budget. 827 00:34:36,506 --> 00:34:42,834 >> any questions on the overview 828 00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:42,834  overview? 829 00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:46,362 seeing none. 830 00:34:46,362 --> 00:34:53,839 there is a recommendation that 831 00:34:53,839 --> 00:35:00,331 county council received the report budget overview, treasuries report as information 832 00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:03,730  information, and that the 2026 833 00:35:03,730 --> 00:35:05,698 budget package be received for 834 00:35:05,698 --> 00:35:06,211 public deliberation. 835 00:35:06,211 --> 00:35:08,664 looking for a mover and a seconder. 836 00:35:08,664 --> 00:35:10,140 deputy warden deck and did by 837 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,768 councilor meloche. 838 00:35:12,768 --> 00:35:14,141 any discussion? 839 00:35:14,141 --> 00:35:15,470 all in favour? 840 00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:17,020 I will ask you to vote electronically. 841 00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:28,310 is there a question? 842 00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:33,947 I'm going back to the same people every time because no one 843 00:35:33,947 --> 00:35:34,917 is raising their hands. 844 00:35:34,917 --> 00:35:37,966 we will see the same names written on the minutes. 845 00:35:37,966 --> 00:35:38,766 thank you for recognizing that 846 00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:38,766 . 847 00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:47,321 I am asking those that raise their hands. 848 00:35:47,321 --> 00:36:15,440 that is carried. 849 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:15,512 thank you. 850 00:36:15,512 --> 00:36:20,282 that's quite the team at the table now. 851 00:36:20,282 --> 00:36:25,622 we will begin with the departmental presentations. 852 00:36:25,622 --> 00:36:28,445 first one up is the community 853 00:36:28,445 --> 00:36:28,948 services residential services. 854 00:36:28,948 --> 00:36:34,748 we have the director of legislative and legal services 855 00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:34,748 . 856 00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:37,501 we have the director of health 857 00:36:37,501 --> 00:36:39,366 and community services at sun 858 00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:39,621 parlor homes. 859 00:36:39,621 --> 00:36:42,060 and our manager of community services here to present. 860 00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:42,860 over to you, team. 861 00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:45,666 >> thank you. 862 00:36:45,666 --> 00:36:51,672 as council is well aware, the 863 00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:51,672 council 864 00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:53,686 council's community services division has been for the past 865 00:36:53,686 --> 00:36:55,249 number of years house within the 866 00:36:55,249 --> 00:36:56,658 legislative and legal services 867 00:36:56,658 --> 00:36:57,456 department. 868 00:36:57,456 --> 00:36:58,511 however, effective january first 869 00:36:58,511 --> 00:37:02,450  january first, 2026, it will transition to the county health 870 00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:03,470 and community services department. 871 00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:07,792 this budget presentation as a 872 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:08,788 transition time with both myself 873 00:37:08,788 --> 00:37:11,222 and the county director of health and community services 874 00:37:11,222 --> 00:37:11,956 assisting with the presentation 875 00:37:11,956 --> 00:37:13,166 of the community services budget 876 00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:13,166  budget. 877 00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:15,758 the bulk of today's presentation 878 00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:17,047  presentation, as per usual, will 879 00:37:17,047 --> 00:37:18,608 be handled by the county manager 880 00:37:18,608 --> 00:37:19,318 of committee services. 881 00:37:19,318 --> 00:37:26,730 county manager of community services. 882 00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:27,458 >> good morning. 883 00:37:27,458 --> 00:37:29,231 first and foremost, I want to 884 00:37:29,231 --> 00:37:31,440 thank our fantastic finance team 885 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:40,919 for providing our small but mighty program throughout the 886 00:37:40,919 --> 00:37:40,919 year. 887 00:37:40,919 --> 00:37:43,586 so thank you, marcy, heidi and 888 00:37:43,586 --> 00:37:45,054 terry who is now on maternity 889 00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:45,290 leave. 890 00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:49,341 the community services division 891 00:37:49,341 --> 00:37:50,315 includes three main programs. 892 00:37:50,315 --> 00:37:54,165 first, the residential services 893 00:37:54,165 --> 00:37:58,676 homes program provides a financial subsidy for vulnerable 894 00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:01,626 individuals placed in residential care homes, such as 895 00:38:01,626 --> 00:38:02,866 retirement homes and lodging homes. 896 00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:09,877 the county currently has a service agreement with nine homes throughout the county and 897 00:38:09,877 --> 00:38:12,755 we support a total of 226 individuals within the program 898 00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:12,755 . 899 00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:19,645 secondly, the county has been 900 00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:22,162 overseeing the operation of a 901 00:38:22,162 --> 00:38:24,178 service delivery of various homelessness programs delivered 902 00:38:24,178 --> 00:38:25,178 by the essex county homelessness 903 00:38:25,178 --> 00:38:25,431 hub. 904 00:38:25,431 --> 00:38:30,797 these programs include a drop 905 00:38:30,797 --> 00:38:32,023 in day program where individuals 906 00:38:32,023 --> 00:38:32,777 experiencing homelessness or at 907 00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:35,638 risk of losing their housing can 908 00:38:35,638 --> 00:38:37,535 access support and services to 909 00:38:37,535 --> 00:38:38,742 either obtain housing or remain 910 00:38:38,742 --> 00:38:38,978 housed. 911 00:38:38,978 --> 00:38:43,853 in addition, the essex county 912 00:38:43,853 --> 00:38:47,216 homelessness hub also began offering an overnight program 913 00:38:47,216 --> 00:38:49,347 in july of 2025, to respond to an 914 00:38:49,347 --> 00:38:51,955 increasing number of individuals 915 00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:52,462 experiencing homelessness. 916 00:38:52,462 --> 00:39:00,129 the county outreach services and 917 00:39:00,129 --> 00:39:07,446 the county emergency shelter program also -- services also 918 00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:09,198 provided to the essex county homelessness hub. 919 00:39:09,198 --> 00:39:11,456 finally, the community services 920 00:39:11,456 --> 00:39:13,656 department also includes the operational funding to support 921 00:39:13,656 --> 00:39:15,975 12 affordable housing units for 922 00:39:15,975 --> 00:39:20,902 youth and other vulnerable populations at the bridge in leamington. 923 00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:28,077 the residential services homes 924 00:39:28,077 --> 00:39:29,613 program has been experiencing 925 00:39:29,613 --> 00:39:31,107 some challenges in the last several years. 926 00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:35,331 with an increase of people experiencing homelessness, the 927 00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:40,241 program has seen an evolving client base with complex needs 928 00:39:40,241 --> 00:39:40,241 . 929 00:39:40,241 --> 00:39:42,460 we are also seeing an increase 930 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:44,890 in demand for services which has 931 00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:46,668 resulted in our program being 932 00:39:46,668 --> 00:39:47,901 at capacity and having a wait-list 933 00:39:47,901 --> 00:39:47,901 . 934 00:39:47,901 --> 00:39:52,334 in addition, regional transportation continues to be 935 00:39:52,334 --> 00:39:57,456 a barrier to ensure that the residents have access to health  health care appointments within 936 00:39:57,456 --> 00:40:02,076 the city and that's remains one 937 00:40:02,076 --> 00:40:03,003 of our largest challenges. 938 00:40:03,003 --> 00:40:07,323 further, we are experiencing a 939 00:40:07,323 --> 00:40:09,211 lack of capacity in our program 940 00:40:09,211 --> 00:40:11,461 , which leaves us with very little 941 00:40:11,461 --> 00:40:14,317 room for contingency planning 942 00:40:14,317 --> 00:40:16,490 or few options when addressing emergency situations in our communities. 943 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:26,043 in addition, the residential services home providers have identified significant financial 944 00:40:26,043 --> 00:40:28,053 pressures which are a result of 945 00:40:28,053 --> 00:40:30,761 an increase cost of food, utilities mortgages and staffing. 946 00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:35,669 this also presents a recruitment 947 00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:36,927 and retention challenge for the 948 00:40:36,927 --> 00:40:38,614 homes as they are not able to 949 00:40:38,614 --> 00:40:41,251 compete with other health care 950 00:40:41,251 --> 00:40:42,923 agencies when hiring staff that 951 00:40:42,923 --> 00:40:44,117 are in high demand professions 952 00:40:44,117 --> 00:40:44,117 . 953 00:40:44,117 --> 00:40:53,664 there has been a 30% increase 954 00:40:53,664 --> 00:40:56,868 in usage year-over-year in all homelessness programs with the 955 00:40:56,868 --> 00:41:02,665 exception of the emergency shelter program, which has supported the same amount of individuals as last year. 956 00:41:02,665 --> 00:41:04,307 the essex county homelessness 957 00:41:04,307 --> 00:41:09,244 hub has averaged 428 visits per 958 00:41:09,244 --> 00:41:13,434 month with a total of just over 959 00:41:13,434 --> 00:41:15,169 4800 visits from january first 960 00:41:15,169 --> 00:41:16,621 to october 31st. 961 00:41:16,621 --> 00:41:22,668 I should also note that since 962 00:41:22,668 --> 00:41:23,897 the beginning of the program in 963 00:41:23,897 --> 00:41:31,367 september of 2022, there has been a total of just over 13,500 964 00:41:31,367 --> 00:41:32,810 visits at the essex county homelessness hub. 965 00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:37,590 in addition, the essex county 966 00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:39,538 homelessness hub has supported 967 00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:42,937 45 individuals with finding housing in the same time frame 968 00:41:42,937 --> 00:41:43,949 of first to october 31st. 969 00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:50,199 the warming centre was operational last winter from december ninth to march 31st. 970 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:56,582 they received a total of 935 visits in this time frame. 971 00:41:56,582 --> 00:42:01,275 on the other hand, the overnight 972 00:42:01,275 --> 00:42:09,842 program which began its operation in july of 2025, received a total of 1545 visits 973 00:42:09,842 --> 00:42:10,590 between july 21st and october 974 00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:10,613  october 31st. 975 00:42:10,613 --> 00:42:21,399 therefore, there has been a significant increase in the utilization of this program compared to last year. 976 00:42:21,399 --> 00:42:27,732 the county outreach services program has supported 102 unique 977 00:42:27,732 --> 00:42:28,635 individuals from january first 978 00:42:28,635 --> 00:42:31,150 to october 31st, with a total 979 00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:31,402 of 997 visits. 980 00:42:31,402 --> 00:42:36,340 encampment tracking only started 981 00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:38,414 on may first and the team has 982 00:42:38,414 --> 00:42:40,090 intervened and supported a total 983 00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:44,590 of 22 individuals in four different encampments. 984 00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:53,816 at the time of gathering the information for this report, there were three active encampments in the county. 985 00:42:53,816 --> 00:43:02,780 I should also note that encampments are defined as containing two or more content 986 00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:04,623 or structures, therefore there 987 00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:08,863 are many more areas where individuals are sleeping outside 988 00:43:08,863 --> 00:43:10,571 but those are not considered official encampments. 989 00:43:10,571 --> 00:43:17,626 the county emergency shelter motel program has also been busy 990 00:43:17,626 --> 00:43:18,125 this year. 991 00:43:18,125 --> 00:43:22,876 as I indicated before, this was 992 00:43:22,876 --> 00:43:26,078 the program that did not see the 993 00:43:26,078 --> 00:43:28,171 same overall 30% increase as the 994 00:43:28,171 --> 00:43:32,703 other homelessness programs that was partially due to the 995 00:43:32,703 --> 00:43:34,989 reduction in the bed's that we 996 00:43:34,989 --> 00:43:36,263 have in that program. 997 00:43:36,263 --> 00:43:37,926 if you remember, when we had the 998 00:43:37,926 --> 00:43:41,962 program last year and the year 999 00:43:41,962 --> 00:43:47,000 before we had four emergency 1000 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,224 shelter beds situated at that 1001 00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:48,224 home. 1002 00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:52,490 since determination of the program we no longer have those 1003 00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:52,727 beds. 1004 00:43:52,727 --> 00:43:58,878 even though the number has remained the same, the number 1005 00:43:58,878 --> 00:43:59,863 of individuals served, the program 1006 00:43:59,863 --> 00:44:06,037 has been very busy up to october 1007 00:44:06,037 --> 00:44:09,673 20 -- october 31st, the program provided emergency 1008 00:44:09,673 --> 00:44:12,265 housing to 28 individuals, and 1009 00:44:12,265 --> 00:44:13,554 successfully found housing for 1010 00:44:13,554 --> 00:44:14,479 24 of those individuals. 1011 00:44:14,479 --> 00:44:20,498 the other people either left willingly or were referred to 1012 00:44:20,498 --> 00:44:21,481 another shelter that could best 1013 00:44:21,481 --> 00:44:22,204 meet their needs. 1014 00:44:22,204 --> 00:44:26,480 when needed, we have added an 1015 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,361 additional motel room to accommodate emergencies. 1016 00:44:28,361 --> 00:44:30,614 in addition, the average length 1017 00:44:30,614 --> 00:44:33,512 of stay for this program was approximately 57 days. 1018 00:44:33,512 --> 00:44:37,456 and finally, we continually -- 1019 00:44:37,456 --> 00:44:39,666 we continue to provide meals on  meals on wheels and food carts 1020 00:44:39,666 --> 00:44:41,158 that we -- to people we support 1021 00:44:41,158 --> 00:44:41,918 in this program. 1022 00:44:41,918 --> 00:44:45,953 >> as council knows, the county 1023 00:44:45,953 --> 00:44:50,382 continues to advocate for increased funding from provincial and federal governments to address housing 1024 00:44:50,382 --> 00:44:52,627 and homelessness needs throughout the county. 1025 00:44:52,627 --> 00:44:55,017 in the meantime, continue to address a significant increase 1026 00:44:55,017 --> 00:44:58,304 in those sick -- those experiencing homelessness in the 1027 00:44:58,304 --> 00:44:58,570 county. 1028 00:44:58,570 --> 00:45:00,997 there's been a 30% increase in 1029 00:45:00,997 --> 00:45:02,512 those accessing support offered 1030 00:45:02,512 --> 00:45:03,826 by the county homelessness hub 1031 00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:03,826 . 1032 00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:07,814 aside from increased visits, homelessness has been more visible in the county this year 1033 00:45:07,814 --> 00:45:11,283 with the county having to address and cameron's for the 1034 00:45:11,283 --> 00:45:12,864 first time since 2025. 1035 00:45:12,864 --> 00:45:14,874 council recently approved the 1036 00:45:14,874 --> 00:45:16,598 regional affordable housing strategy which will hopefully 1037 00:45:16,598 --> 00:45:17,571 assist in addressing affordability issues. 1038 00:45:17,571 --> 00:45:20,425 as that strategy was recently 1039 00:45:20,425 --> 00:45:22,857 improved there are no cost to 1040 00:45:22,857 --> 00:45:25,420 the strategy included in the draft budget. 1041 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:30,017 the county will use 2026 to consult with local myths of polities on a strategy and will 1042 00:45:30,017 --> 00:45:31,757 report back to council in the 1043 00:45:31,757 --> 00:45:32,263 months to come. 1044 00:45:32,263 --> 00:45:38,382 the overall budget for community 1045 00:45:38,382 --> 00:45:40,110 services is 3.7 million. 1046 00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:42,826 the bulk of the funds require 1047 00:45:42,826 --> 00:45:44,812 the county community service budget funded from provincial 1048 00:45:44,812 --> 00:45:46,886 dollars and to a lesser extent 1049 00:45:46,886 --> 00:45:47,372 federal dollars. 1050 00:45:47,372 --> 00:45:51,000 the county's 2026 budget is seeking an increase of just over 1051 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,787 438,000 to be funded from the 1052 00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:54,992 county levy and that amount is 1053 00:45:54,992 --> 00:45:55,965 comprised of three items. 1054 00:45:55,965 --> 00:45:58,398 the first is for an operational 1055 00:45:58,398 --> 00:45:58,634 increase. 1056 00:45:58,634 --> 00:46:01,584 just over 20,000 required for 1057 00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:02,322 contractual increases in wages 1058 00:46:02,322 --> 00:46:02,811 and benefits. 1059 00:46:02,811 --> 00:46:08,009 the second is to support a per  per diem increase to move the 1060 00:46:08,009 --> 00:46:11,022 per diem from $60 per day to $65 1061 00:46:11,022 --> 00:46:12,214 per day in residential services 1062 00:46:12,214 --> 00:46:12,698 homes program. 1063 00:46:12,698 --> 00:46:15,330 just over 300,000 is required 1064 00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:16,500 for that item. 1065 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,197 contingent on the city 1066 00:46:19,197 --> 00:46:21,534 also approving the per diem budget increase in its budget. 1067 00:46:21,534 --> 00:46:25,014 finally, the third component of 1068 00:46:25,014 --> 00:46:26,961 that amount is being requested 1069 00:46:26,961 --> 00:46:28,452 in this budget for an overnight 1070 00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:28,955 program increase. 1071 00:46:28,955 --> 00:46:32,684 just over $110,000 required for 1072 00:46:32,684 --> 00:46:33,506 that item. 1073 00:46:33,506 --> 00:46:35,259 the county is receiving the bulk 1074 00:46:35,259 --> 00:46:37,294 of the funds required for the 1075 00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:38,028 overnight program for provincial 1076 00:46:38,028 --> 00:46:38,774 and federal dollars. 1077 00:46:38,774 --> 00:46:41,825 they will continue funding the 1078 00:46:41,825 --> 00:46:45,141 overnight program december 31 december 31st 2026, the county 1079 00:46:45,141 --> 00:46:46,252 contribution required is $110,000. 1080 00:46:46,252 --> 00:46:56,188 again, in 2026, the draft budget 1081 00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:58,203 before council seeks to support 1082 00:46:58,203 --> 00:47:00,881 maintaining county overnight program until december 21st 2026. 1083 00:47:00,881 --> 00:47:03,739 it seeks to support the county 1084 00:47:03,739 --> 00:47:05,033 residential services providers 1085 00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:06,351 in addressing inflationary pressures. 1086 00:47:06,351 --> 00:47:08,010 service levels can be maintained 1087 00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:10,994 and dig deeper into regional affordable housing strategy with 1088 00:47:10,994 --> 00:47:12,660 counties and local minutes of 1089 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:12,660 polities. 1090 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:14,175 they can eventually be made to 1091 00:47:14,175 --> 00:47:15,628 county council to advance the 1092 00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:15,628 strategy. 1093 00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:20,756 in 2026 the county will continue 1094 00:47:20,756 --> 00:47:22,188 to foster collaboration between 1095 00:47:22,188 --> 00:47:23,245 residential service providers, 1096 00:47:23,245 --> 00:47:26,266 other service providers and health care services for county 1097 00:47:26,266 --> 00:47:31,282 will continue to provide homelessness services to the  the county homelessness hub, will continue to advocate levels 1098 00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:33,700 of government for additional funding to address homelessness 1099 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,135 and to increase the number of 1100 00:47:36,135 --> 00:47:36,621 affordable housing units. 1101 00:47:36,621 --> 00:47:39,024 with that, we will now conclude 1102 00:47:39,024 --> 00:47:41,029 the presentation of the community services budget with 1103 00:47:41,029 --> 00:47:42,429 one of the success stories that 1104 00:47:42,429 --> 00:47:43,628 have come from her program. 1105 00:47:43,628 --> 00:47:44,577 >> thank you. 1106 00:47:44,577 --> 00:47:52,166 today, I am going to share lucy's story with all of you. 1107 00:47:52,166 --> 00:47:54,312 as usual, we afford privacy purposes. 1108 00:47:54,312 --> 00:48:00,307 lucy is a fabricated name for 1109 00:48:00,307 --> 00:48:00,559 this situation. 1110 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,947 lucy is a senior who was experiencing homelessness in one 1111 00:48:05,947 --> 00:48:09,283 of our smaller county communities. 1112 00:48:09,283 --> 00:48:13,092 a concerned municipal leader contacted our department to seek 1113 00:48:13,092 --> 00:48:18,940 support for this person, as business owners and other concerned citizens were worried 1114 00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:19,437 about her. 1115 00:48:19,437 --> 00:48:26,815 the county outreach worker immediately attended the situation and assess the client 1116 00:48:26,815 --> 00:48:28,489 , who appeared to be extremely vulnerable. 1117 00:48:28,489 --> 00:48:32,754 the outreach worker then reached 1118 00:48:32,754 --> 00:48:34,208 out to the community services 1119 00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,031 team and together, they worked 1120 00:48:37,031 --> 00:48:47,064 with one of our residential services home providers, who assessed this vulnerable individual the same day and opened up an additional bed in 1121 00:48:47,064 --> 00:48:48,021 his home for her. 1122 00:48:48,021 --> 00:48:54,851 it turns out that this person 1123 00:48:54,851 --> 00:48:57,807 had not received regular health  health care in years, and her 1124 00:48:57,807 --> 00:48:59,031 health card was 20 years expired 1125 00:48:59,031 --> 00:48:59,031  expired. 1126 00:48:59,031 --> 00:49:01,583 to complicate things, she was 1127 00:49:01,583 --> 00:49:06,631 being financially taken advantage of, and although she 1128 00:49:06,631 --> 00:49:08,199 received a decent income, she 1129 00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:09,188 didn't have access to it. 1130 00:49:09,188 --> 00:49:12,244 fast forward three months, lucy 1131 00:49:12,244 --> 00:49:16,208 is thriving in a retirement home 1132 00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:16,208  home. 1133 00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:20,690 she is receiving regular health  health care and she has been 1134 00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:22,021 assigned a public guardian to 1135 00:49:22,021 --> 00:49:23,676 manage her finances, to avoid 1136 00:49:23,676 --> 00:49:24,408 any further financial abuse. 1137 00:49:24,408 --> 00:49:27,914 she claims that she has never 1138 00:49:27,914 --> 00:49:29,161 been happier and she is living 1139 00:49:29,161 --> 00:49:29,901 her best life. 1140 00:49:29,901 --> 00:49:30,380 thank you. 1141 00:49:30,380 --> 00:49:34,471 >> thank you. 1142 00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:39,979 >> with that, we are happy to 1143 00:49:39,979 --> 00:49:40,512 answer any questions. 1144 00:49:40,512 --> 00:49:47,221 >> are there any questions regarding community services residential homes services homes 1145 00:49:47,221 --> 00:49:47,711 2026 widget estimates? 1146 00:49:47,711 --> 00:49:49,645 start with councilor deyong. 1147 00:49:49,645 --> 00:49:57,251 >> I think you mentioned something and I'm hoping you 1148 00:49:57,251 --> 00:50:02,161 can give more details, our homelessness funding program has 1149 00:50:02,161 --> 00:50:03,220 doubled since 2024. 1150 00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:05,234 most of that is this year. 1151 00:50:05,234 --> 00:50:06,725 I think is 300,000 increase, the 1152 00:50:06,725 --> 00:50:08,446 homelessness program line. 1153 00:50:08,446 --> 00:50:09,745 do you want the line number? 1154 00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:09,745 5112. 1155 00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:16,137 I think you said something in 1156 00:50:16,137 --> 00:50:19,556 your comments about the $300,000 $300,000. 1157 00:50:19,556 --> 00:50:20,856 I'm wondering if you can let us 1158 00:50:20,856 --> 00:50:24,027 -- what the increases. 1159 00:50:24,027 --> 00:50:26,410 in 2024, it was 429. 1160 00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:28,003 it went up to six. 1161 00:50:28,003 --> 00:50:29,324 this year it is almost nine. 1162 00:50:29,324 --> 00:50:36,406 >> with the provincial dollars 1163 00:50:36,406 --> 00:50:38,775 that we received from the city 1164 00:50:38,775 --> 00:50:40,751 , they give us a pot of money and 1165 00:50:40,751 --> 00:50:43,341 it goes in between, in and out 1166 00:50:43,341 --> 00:50:43,777 of line. 1167 00:50:43,777 --> 00:50:45,465 I believe, and I didn't look as 1168 00:50:45,465 --> 00:50:47,216 you were speaking, but if you 1169 00:50:47,216 --> 00:50:50,097 notice you will notice an offset at another line. 1170 00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:51,409 there is a residential services 1171 00:50:51,409 --> 00:50:51,658 home. 1172 00:50:51,658 --> 00:50:52,714 how they calculate that has changed. 1173 00:50:52,714 --> 00:50:56,632 but they shifted dollars elsewhere. 1174 00:50:56,632 --> 00:50:57,986 for this year, for example, we 1175 00:50:57,986 --> 00:51:01,507 have to regroup and thought an 1176 00:51:01,507 --> 00:51:03,128 outreach worker would be better 1177 00:51:03,128 --> 00:51:03,128 . 1178 00:51:03,128 --> 00:51:04,664 so it just goes to another line 1179 00:51:04,664 --> 00:51:04,664 . 1180 00:51:04,664 --> 00:51:06,739 but we have had the same pot of 1181 00:51:06,739 --> 00:51:08,842 money from 2024 and 2025. 1182 00:51:08,842 --> 00:51:10,862 they are saying it will be the 1183 00:51:10,862 --> 00:51:11,628 same for 2026. 1184 00:51:11,628 --> 00:51:16,344 >> I think you are talking about 1185 00:51:16,344 --> 00:51:18,586 the transitional relocation costs which is the line above 1186 00:51:18,586 --> 00:51:18,586 . 1187 00:51:18,586 --> 00:51:20,026 so we are still talking $100,000 1188 00:51:20,026 --> 00:51:20,249 difference. 1189 00:51:20,249 --> 00:51:29,042 >> no, it is the residential services homes per diem and the 1190 00:51:29,042 --> 00:51:29,545 homelessness program. 1191 00:51:29,545 --> 00:51:35,489 the transitional relocation costs are funded dollars for the 1192 00:51:35,489 --> 00:51:35,757 transition. 1193 00:51:35,757 --> 00:51:39,149 it is still $100,000 difference 1194 00:51:39,149 --> 00:51:39,149 . 1195 00:51:39,149 --> 00:51:56,849 down 200,000 on five 1:30. 1196 00:51:56,849 --> 00:51:58,858 but up 300,000 on five '01 two. 1197 00:51:58,858 --> 00:52:05,974 50 1:30 5102. 1198 00:52:05,974 --> 00:52:09,495 >> as we do the math I can confirm the provincial dollars 1199 00:52:09,495 --> 00:52:10,518 receive has not changed. 1200 00:52:10,518 --> 00:52:14,082 we will work on the mass of that 1201 00:52:14,082 --> 00:52:15,853 but I can confirm that the city 1202 00:52:15,853 --> 00:52:18,065 has not given us any additional 1203 00:52:18,065 --> 00:52:18,600 provincial dollars. 1204 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,591 >> further? 1205 00:52:23,591 --> 00:52:27,758 >> I guess I music my old budget 1206 00:52:27,758 --> 00:52:30,491 to look at what was levy versus 1207 00:52:30,491 --> 00:52:32,203 reserve funding, which I wish 1208 00:52:32,203 --> 00:52:37,331 was on this year's budget because I think it's really helpful to know what's impacting 1209 00:52:37,331 --> 00:52:39,056 the tax rate at the end of the 1210 00:52:39,056 --> 00:52:39,306 day. 1211 00:52:39,306 --> 00:52:41,108 that's what we are here for, and 1212 00:52:41,108 --> 00:52:42,338 it's not on this budget. 1213 00:52:42,338 --> 00:52:44,378 I brought my old one to help with that. 1214 00:52:44,378 --> 00:52:49,353 in terms of the number I am asking for, and I do understand 1215 00:52:49,353 --> 00:52:50,815 you are putting the provincial 1216 00:52:50,815 --> 00:52:51,788 dollars in certain categories, 1217 00:52:51,788 --> 00:52:56,279 is it my understanding that this 1218 00:52:56,279 --> 00:52:58,652 has no impact on the tax rate 1219 00:52:58,652 --> 00:52:58,900 at all? 1220 00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:59,735 these dollars specifically that 1221 00:52:59,735 --> 00:53:00,708 I am talking about. 1222 00:53:00,708 --> 00:53:03,139 >> I can help. 1223 00:53:03,139 --> 00:53:10,349 in my presentation, I talked about -- let me find the notes 1224 00:53:10,349 --> 00:53:10,599 here. 1225 00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:14,984 the amount that would effect the 1226 00:53:14,984 --> 00:53:18,678 county levy for this year is just over $438,000. 1227 00:53:18,678 --> 00:53:21,036 that was broken down in those 1228 00:53:21,036 --> 00:53:21,257 three items. 1229 00:53:21,257 --> 00:53:25,095 one is 20,000 for contractual 1230 00:53:25,095 --> 00:53:26,854 increases wage and benefits, the 1231 00:53:26,854 --> 00:53:28,065 second is the per diem increase 1232 00:53:28,065 --> 00:53:33,064 that the city is bringing in their budget, they've asked to 1233 00:53:33,064 --> 00:53:33,909 bring in ours. 1234 00:53:33,909 --> 00:53:36,290 that's just over $300,000. 1235 00:53:36,290 --> 00:53:37,584 and the overnight program, if 1236 00:53:37,584 --> 00:53:42,322 it goes to december 31st, in addition to provincial and federal funding, we would need 1237 00:53:42,322 --> 00:53:44,432 just over $110,000 in county funding. 1238 00:53:44,432 --> 00:53:46,643 that's a total of 438,000. 1239 00:53:46,643 --> 00:53:48,251 that is more than what was asked 1240 00:53:48,251 --> 00:53:49,008 for last year. 1241 00:53:49,008 --> 00:53:49,571 if that helps. 1242 00:53:49,571 --> 00:53:56,449 >> the 300 I heard was for the 1243 00:53:56,449 --> 00:53:57,985 per diem which I'm glad to see 1244 00:53:57,985 --> 00:53:57,985 . 1245 00:53:57,985 --> 00:53:59,275 I think that is really necessary 1246 00:53:59,275 --> 00:53:59,275  necessary. 1247 00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:03,544 to go back to the lines I am talking about, specifically the 1248 00:54:03,544 --> 00:54:06,170 homelessness programs and the 1249 00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:10,084 residential service -- now you 1250 00:54:10,084 --> 00:54:12,335 said service home for pdm is a 1251 00:54:12,335 --> 00:54:12,823 tax increase. 1252 00:54:12,823 --> 00:54:13,730 I am confused. 1253 00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:14,797 you said it's provincial dollars 1254 00:54:14,797 --> 00:54:14,797  dollars. 1255 00:54:14,797 --> 00:54:20,509 >> the first $60 would be provincial dollars. 1256 00:54:20,509 --> 00:54:24,530 we are trying to top that up with the additional five dollars 1257 00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:25,489 to make it sustainable. 1258 00:54:25,489 --> 00:54:28,214 the five-dollar increase is where you see the levy contribution. 1259 00:54:28,214 --> 00:54:30,512 it is our county dollars. 1260 00:54:30,512 --> 00:54:36,326 $309,000 for the residential home increase is a levy and it 1261 00:54:36,326 --> 00:54:37,352 does affect the tax rate. 1262 00:54:37,352 --> 00:54:39,612 as well as the overnight program 1263 00:54:39,612 --> 00:54:39,612  program. 1264 00:54:39,612 --> 00:54:42,793 we are doing what we can with 1265 00:54:42,793 --> 00:54:44,855 the provincial dollars to open 1266 00:54:44,855 --> 00:54:46,918 it as many days as we possibly 1267 00:54:46,918 --> 00:54:47,166 can. 1268 00:54:47,166 --> 00:54:48,464 however, there is a shortfall 1269 00:54:48,464 --> 00:54:51,110 of we want to run a 306 to five days a year. 1270 00:54:51,110 --> 00:54:52,931 that will be -- that will affect 1271 00:54:52,931 --> 00:54:54,642 the levy and that is just over 1272 00:54:54,642 --> 00:54:57,190 $110,000 that increase there. 1273 00:54:57,190 --> 00:55:06,148 >> I am finding this quite confusing. 1274 00:55:06,148 --> 00:55:12,359 the homelessness program is increased by 300,000 but our per per diem which we know is impacting the levy, shows in production. 1275 00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:14,957 so this is very confusing to me 1276 00:55:14,957 --> 00:55:14,957 . 1277 00:55:14,957 --> 00:55:17,109 I will just trust that what you 1278 00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:18,331 are saying makes sense because 1279 00:55:18,331 --> 00:55:21,632 it doesn't make sense on my piece of paper that shows the 1280 00:55:21,632 --> 00:55:23,702 per diem cost from 2025 going 1281 00:55:23,702 --> 00:55:25,213 down even though we are increasing it. 1282 00:55:25,213 --> 00:55:29,033 but the homelessness program which is provincially funded is 1283 00:55:29,033 --> 00:55:30,852 going up at the funding dollars 1284 00:55:30,852 --> 00:55:31,356 haven't changed. 1285 00:55:31,356 --> 00:55:32,658 so I'm a little confused. 1286 00:55:32,658 --> 00:55:33,675 but I will move on. 1287 00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:38,929 >> anyone else? 1288 00:55:38,929 --> 00:55:47,845 councilor bailey. 1289 00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:49,690 >> this is tough work not only 1290 00:55:49,690 --> 00:55:50,960 putting the budget together but 1291 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,195 the work that you do. 1292 00:55:52,195 --> 00:55:54,328 I want to thank you for sharing 1293 00:55:54,328 --> 00:55:56,057 the story about lucy and all of 1294 00:55:56,057 --> 00:55:57,991 the work that gets done with our 1295 00:55:57,991 --> 00:55:58,494 vulnerable populations. 1296 00:55:58,494 --> 00:56:04,832 I also want to thank you for what appears to be a conservative lens on a very difficult subject, recognizing 1297 00:56:04,832 --> 00:56:08,883 that really this is a maintenance of level of service 1298 00:56:08,883 --> 00:56:09,902 and some continuation around -- 1299 00:56:09,902 --> 00:56:16,582 the five-dollar per diem increase I am very pleased to 1300 00:56:16,582 --> 00:56:16,821 see. 1301 00:56:16,821 --> 00:56:21,330 I assume the city will also be 1302 00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:23,439 tabling that within their budget 1303 00:56:23,439 --> 00:56:24,142 for their discussions. 1304 00:56:24,142 --> 00:56:26,382 I am wondering whether or not 1305 00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:31,499 the five dollars that we will 1306 00:56:31,499 --> 00:56:36,275 love the as a result will be transferred to the service manager from the county to the 1307 00:56:36,275 --> 00:56:37,553 city, the additional five dollars. 1308 00:56:37,553 --> 00:56:42,065 I'm also wondering whether or 1309 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:43,499 not this could be brought back 1310 00:56:43,499 --> 00:56:45,440 if the city fails to match my 1311 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,887 -- my anticipation and hope is that 1312 00:56:46,887 --> 00:56:47,371 they will. 1313 00:56:47,371 --> 00:56:49,189 I'm sure they will. 1314 00:56:49,189 --> 00:56:50,744 but whether or not this could 1315 00:56:50,744 --> 00:56:51,713 be brought back for consideration 1316 00:56:51,713 --> 00:56:53,858 should the city not choose to 1317 00:56:53,858 --> 00:56:53,858 match. 1318 00:56:53,858 --> 00:56:57,627 also, I'm happy to table the motion contained here when you 1319 00:56:57,627 --> 00:56:58,127 are ready. 1320 00:56:58,127 --> 00:57:07,067 >> through wharton, thank you 1321 00:57:07,067 --> 00:57:08,639 for your question and thank you 1322 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:09,608 for your positive feedback. 1323 00:57:09,608 --> 00:57:10,153 we certainly appreciated. 1324 00:57:10,153 --> 00:57:14,219 as for the potential per diem 1325 00:57:14,219 --> 00:57:18,103 increase how the funding works 1326 00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:20,134 , the city gives the county the 1327 00:57:20,134 --> 00:57:21,420 money to cover the entire per  per diem. 1328 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:24,377 we would just be complementing 1329 00:57:24,377 --> 00:57:25,824 what they are already giving us 1330 00:57:25,824 --> 00:57:29,008 , and then they would be pulling 1331 00:57:29,008 --> 00:57:32,612 , hopefully from there municipal 1332 00:57:32,612 --> 00:57:34,458 dollars to complement the total 1333 00:57:34,458 --> 00:57:36,210 amount for the city homes. 1334 00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:37,491 I hope that answers your question. 1335 00:57:37,491 --> 00:57:44,246 >> I should also add, the 65-dollar per diem is not solely 1336 00:57:44,246 --> 00:57:47,644 funded by provincial dollars and 1337 00:57:47,644 --> 00:57:48,666 county dollars. 1338 00:57:48,666 --> 00:57:51,653 it is also income that the residents themselves may earn, 1339 00:57:51,653 --> 00:57:53,327 whether it's pension income or 1340 00:57:53,327 --> 00:57:53,815 disability income. 1341 00:57:53,815 --> 00:57:56,073 >> thank you. 1342 00:57:56,073 --> 00:57:56,960 councilor bondy. 1343 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,111 >> thank you, warden. 1344 00:58:01,111 --> 00:58:03,286 I want to thank you for everything you do. 1345 00:58:03,286 --> 00:58:04,875 this is a question that I have 1346 00:58:04,875 --> 00:58:05,125 today. 1347 00:58:05,125 --> 00:58:07,054 you may not have the answer today. 1348 00:58:07,054 --> 00:58:09,329 if you have to follow up by email I understand. 1349 00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:12,467 the 226 beds, how long have we 1350 00:58:12,467 --> 00:58:13,205 had 226 bed? 1351 00:58:13,205 --> 00:58:16,405 does that grow at all with the 1352 00:58:16,405 --> 00:58:17,674 needs the demand for need? 1353 00:58:17,674 --> 00:58:21,733 and then I have a couple of other questions. 1354 00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:23,539 but I'm looking to see, do we 1355 00:58:23,539 --> 00:58:26,114 have did we have 226 beds 10 years ago? 1356 00:58:26,114 --> 00:58:27,662 are we looking to grow more beds 1357 00:58:27,662 --> 00:58:27,662  beds? 1358 00:58:27,662 --> 00:58:29,985 the housing issues aren't going 1359 00:58:29,985 --> 00:58:30,735 to go away. 1360 00:58:30,735 --> 00:58:36,036 maybe we need to have a discussion going to 240 beds in 1361 00:58:36,036 --> 00:58:37,659 the future, 250 beds. 1362 00:58:37,659 --> 00:58:39,199 I don't know if you can answer 1363 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:39,446 that. 1364 00:58:39,446 --> 00:58:41,512 and then I have a couple of other statements. 1365 00:58:41,512 --> 00:58:44,943 >> thank you for the question. 1366 00:58:44,943 --> 00:58:49,942 for at least 10 years, we have 1367 00:58:49,942 --> 00:58:50,676 had 226 beds. 1368 00:58:50,676 --> 00:58:57,912 that number is determined by the 1369 00:58:57,912 --> 00:58:58,418 service manager. 1370 00:58:58,418 --> 00:59:00,787 so they allocate funding to a 1371 00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:02,269 total number of beds for the region. 1372 00:59:02,269 --> 00:59:04,406 the county portion of those beds 1373 00:59:04,406 --> 00:59:04,929 are 226. 1374 00:59:04,929 --> 00:59:08,257 >> thank you. 1375 00:59:08,257 --> 00:59:11,842 226 beds for 10 years. 1376 00:59:11,842 --> 00:59:18,462 that is not keeping up with inflation of the need in the  the county of essex. 1377 00:59:18,462 --> 00:59:20,326 my next question is, I believe 1378 00:59:20,326 --> 00:59:22,031 a couple of council meetings ago 1379 00:59:22,031 --> 00:59:24,290 , maybe three innings ago, we sent 1380 00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:26,062 a letter to the city of windsor 1381 00:59:26,062 --> 00:59:27,602 asking them to meet on this. 1382 00:59:27,602 --> 00:59:29,465 unfortunately, we didn't get to 1383 00:59:29,465 --> 00:59:30,435 meet on anything. 1384 00:59:30,435 --> 00:59:31,691 unity service, social service, 1385 00:59:31,691 --> 00:59:33,001 before this budget. 1386 00:59:33,001 --> 00:59:34,575 do you know if that letter has 1387 00:59:34,575 --> 00:59:36,979 been received by the city, and 1388 00:59:36,979 --> 00:59:38,501 if the city is going to 1389 00:59:38,501 --> 00:59:41,438 come to the table and talk about our fair share of services? 1390 00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:46,189 >> we've got an email acknowledging they have received 1391 00:59:46,189 --> 00:59:47,903 the letter but there has been 1392 00:59:47,903 --> 00:59:48,875 no formal response to date. 1393 00:59:48,875 --> 00:59:49,847 >> thank you. 1394 00:59:49,847 --> 00:59:55,115 I will just go on public record 1395 00:59:55,115 --> 00:59:57,954 again saying that the city really needs to start having a 1396 00:59:57,954 --> 00:59:58,974 conversation with the county. 1397 00:59:58,974 --> 01:00:01,629 if it's not county council, it 1398 01:00:01,629 --> 01:00:04,073 needs to be county administration. 1399 01:00:04,073 --> 01:00:06,320 part of our strategic goal is 1400 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,059 looking at how we can get our 1401 01:00:08,059 --> 01:00:08,310 fair share. 1402 01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:10,180 we are not getting our fair share. 1403 01:00:10,180 --> 01:00:13,196 226 beds for 10 years, having 1404 01:00:13,196 --> 01:00:15,950 no growth in those beds in the county when we have needs. 1405 01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:18,112 we have encampments as well. 1406 01:00:18,112 --> 01:00:20,454 my last comment is I don't -- 1407 01:00:20,454 --> 01:00:21,549 this is really good information 1408 01:00:21,549 --> 01:00:21,549 . 1409 01:00:21,549 --> 01:00:23,486 I got a little bit emotional but 1410 01:00:23,486 --> 01:00:25,888 I don't want to wait until 2027 1411 01:00:25,888 --> 01:00:27,838 to get more data on this particular topic. 1412 01:00:27,838 --> 01:00:31,095 I actually think, we were just 1413 01:00:31,095 --> 01:00:32,598 at our police service board, we 1414 01:00:32,598 --> 01:00:36,078 added at our police service board homeless and can't mince 1415 01:00:36,078 --> 01:00:37,280 into the strategic plan. 1416 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,483 homeless issues into the strategic plan at the opp board 1417 01:00:40,483 --> 01:00:40,733 north. 1418 01:00:40,733 --> 01:00:43,653 we need to be on this issue. 1419 01:00:43,653 --> 01:00:45,391 as elected officials, I would 1420 01:00:45,391 --> 01:00:48,188 like to be informed on this issue either quarterly or every 1421 01:00:48,188 --> 01:00:48,675 three months. 1422 01:00:48,675 --> 01:00:53,227 we need to not let this get worse and worse and worse. 1423 01:00:53,227 --> 01:00:57,422 we need to be very vocalwe need to be very vocal to the 1424 01:00:57,422 --> 01:00:58,030 upper levels of government and 1425 01:00:58,030 --> 01:01:04,227 the city of windsor that the status quo is not acceptable and we're only as good as our most vulnerable people. 1426 01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:12,683 we have many loose in our community and if they are doing poorly we are failing. I want to thank you for all your work you are doing. 1427 01:01:12,683 --> 01:01:14,273 thank you. 1428 01:01:14,273 --> 01:01:20,962 >> councillor rogers. >> thank you and through you, great work that everybody is doing. 1429 01:01:20,962 --> 01:01:30,729 I'm -- it makes a big ball you're moving worth it. 1430 01:01:30,729 --> 01:01:31,939 there's federal funding 1431 01:01:31,939 --> 01:01:32,380 there. 1432 01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:33,393 about 100,000 or so up there. 1433 01:01:33,393 --> 01:01:44,398 is this guaranteed funding moving into the future the first foresee a top up that's continually happening or is this top up now what's guaranteeing 1434 01:01:44,398 --> 01:01:47,743 the current service we have through the next year when we 1435 01:01:47,743 --> 01:01:47,802 see future budgets. 1436 01:01:47,802 --> 01:02:00,004 >> it doesn't directly align with the county budget process 1437 01:02:00,004 --> 01:02:00,004 . 1438 01:02:00,004 --> 01:02:01,056 it's through year end. 1439 01:02:01,056 --> 01:02:05,270 the dollars we are seeking through december 31st, 2026. 1440 01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:06,309 I believe that's correct. 1441 01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:15,877 each year the city tells us what her allocation from the provincial and federal dollars on behalf of the region is and 1442 01:02:15,877 --> 01:02:18,788 that dollar figure was the same last years it is this year. 1443 01:02:18,788 --> 01:02:25,140 there's no indication of any increase or decrease -- I can't really tell you about that. 1444 01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:34,256 >> think you further. If I could just expand on that hypothetically if the funding is 1445 01:02:34,256 --> 01:02:38,807 the same for next year, next budget we've already banked in 1446 01:02:38,807 --> 01:02:39,469 that increase so theoretically 1447 01:02:39,469 --> 01:02:42,275 there should be no increase in less funds or cut. Is that how I understand it? 1448 01:02:42,275 --> 01:02:51,894 >> through you I just want to 1449 01:02:51,894 --> 01:02:54,878 comment on the cost of doing the 1450 01:02:54,878 --> 01:02:54,972 service. 1451 01:02:54,972 --> 01:03:07,724 this is the cost of $2026 so that's just one comment the expenses of doing the program might continue to increase which we might have to cover unless the provincial funding also increases. 1452 01:03:07,724 --> 01:03:13,211 there's also 70,000 home funding 1453 01:03:13,211 --> 01:03:14,265 which is a federal funding that 1454 01:03:14,265 --> 01:03:14,323 covers this. 1455 01:03:14,323 --> 01:03:21,223 that's only confirmed until 2028 2028. 1456 01:03:21,223 --> 01:03:27,909 so that's also a potential where there's 70,000 right now helping us find that program, that potentially might not be there in the future. 1457 01:03:27,909 --> 01:03:36,599 >> thank you very much, I appreciated. 1458 01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:41,583 in terms of the 2026 beds -- 226 beds we've had that number the 1459 01:03:41,583 --> 01:03:46,600 last ten years and there is need growing out in the community. 1460 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:56,316 I'm happy to see the 5-dollar increase for the per diem and those different service levels 1461 01:03:56,316 --> 01:04:06,519 but I want to drill home the point before we expand beds to ensure we are taking care of those 226 to ensure the service 1462 01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:15,203 providers -- have the funding 1463 01:04:15,203 --> 01:04:18,532 and resources they need to ensure were taking care of our most vulnerable before you look 1464 01:04:18,532 --> 01:04:21,165 at bringing that number up at 1465 01:04:21,165 --> 01:04:21,165 all. 1466 01:04:21,165 --> 01:04:22,204 I'm a firm believer we have to 1467 01:04:22,204 --> 01:04:31,941 take care of our own house before we look outside and I think in terms of expanding that that, I don't think a conversation with the city -- I think that's our conversation 1468 01:04:31,941 --> 01:04:36,248 with the province so to me that's the bigger conversation 1469 01:04:36,248 --> 01:04:40,018 . Supportive of this and I will be 1470 01:04:40,018 --> 01:04:40,634 your second or whenever you are ready. 1471 01:04:40,634 --> 01:04:42,252 thank you. 1472 01:04:42,252 --> 01:04:43,898 >> thank you. 1473 01:04:43,898 --> 01:04:52,054 councillor. >> through you just a quick question on encampments and the cost. 1474 01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:56,803 I understand encampments and there must be a number of different budget lines attached 1475 01:04:56,803 --> 01:05:02,159 you break them up -- that's all I need to know. 1476 01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:15,594 >> through you the county directly dealt with one this year I believe it was broken up in 1477 01:05:15,594 --> 01:05:17,575 a variety of different budget lines as we have different departments dealing with it. 1478 01:05:17,575 --> 01:05:25,739 a legal services on-site and for 1479 01:05:25,739 --> 01:05:27,487 cleanup cost afterwards and assisted the locals as well 1480 01:05:27,487 --> 01:05:51,495 an encampment in the county of 1481 01:05:51,495 --> 01:05:53,793 essex true cost is to taxpayers 1482 01:05:53,793 --> 01:05:53,793 . 1483 01:05:53,793 --> 01:05:55,386 thank you. 1484 01:05:55,386 --> 01:06:03,525 >> thank you. Councillor >> thank you through you I only have one question -- were seeing 1485 01:06:03,525 --> 01:06:07,417 226 in the county and it's been like that for ten years. 1486 01:06:07,417 --> 01:06:09,241 it's determined by the service manager which is the city. 1487 01:06:09,241 --> 01:06:13,093 do we ever review that? 1488 01:06:13,093 --> 01:06:13,687 obviously in the past ten years 1489 01:06:13,687 --> 01:06:16,329 the county has grown quite a bit 1490 01:06:16,329 --> 01:06:21,610 and we have the same issues now the county and in the city centre. 1491 01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:26,716 at what point do we review the allocations between the city and county or are we part of that discussion? 1492 01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:40,067 >> my understanding is when the program was instituted the city 1493 01:06:40,067 --> 01:06:44,287 itself and the 226 beds in the county and that number remains 1494 01:06:44,287 --> 01:06:51,233 -- it just remain static. 1495 01:06:51,233 --> 01:06:52,004 it certainly conversation we could have with administration 1496 01:06:52,004 --> 01:06:56,341 if council wants us to. 1497 01:06:56,341 --> 01:07:02,471 >> anyone else? I'm going to read the recommendations. 1498 01:07:02,471 --> 01:07:13,012 -- I'm giving everybody two looks around because get your hands up early or you're going 1499 01:07:13,012 --> 01:07:14,601 to get missed. 1500 01:07:14,601 --> 01:07:17,174 >> just for some clarification 1501 01:07:17,174 --> 01:07:17,392 as well when we make references 1502 01:07:17,392 --> 01:07:25,547 the overall proposed for the 26 budget and we look at net of recoveries. 1503 01:07:25,547 --> 01:07:32,781 the total of 1.2 million is an increased -- they make reference 1504 01:07:32,781 --> 01:07:38,210 stated from 2025 budget 760 -- 1505 01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:38,210 ... 1506 01:07:38,210 --> 01:08:03,428 so I can understand is these numbers are needed are we referring to the city there's an 1507 01:08:03,428 --> 01:08:04,255 increase here we're looking more 1508 01:08:04,255 --> 01:08:15,036 money for them? To help. >> through you ward and we definitely communicated team have communicated that on 1509 01:08:10,271 --> 01:08:15,036 Several 1510 01:08:15,036 --> 01:08:15,036 definitely communicated team have communicated that on 1511 01:08:15,036 --> 01:08:20,751 Several occasions that we obviously need this service on 1512 01:08:20,751 --> 01:08:22,240 where always looking for 1513 01:08:20,751 --> 01:08:22,240 Additional provincial 1514 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,240 where always looking for 1515 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,299 Additional provincial dollars. 1516 01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:26,744 we've fought in other years and 1517 01:08:26,744 --> 01:08:30,044 if there's ever any surpluses, they've been good at allowing 1518 01:08:30,044 --> 01:08:33,313 us to shift the surplus dollars somewhere else. 1519 01:08:33,313 --> 01:08:35,851 however they typically don't know if there's any service dollars until closer to the end of march. 1520 01:08:35,851 --> 01:08:44,002 but they do know we have a need and are using additional municipal dollars to continue 1521 01:08:42,127 --> 01:08:44,002 With 1522 01:08:44,002 --> 01:08:44,002 and are using additional municipal dollars to continue 1523 01:08:44,002 --> 01:08:44,062 With these programs. 1524 01:08:44,062 --> 01:08:51,237 if there's any additional or federal dollars... 1525 01:08:51,237 --> 01:08:56,104 >> so through you those dollars are actually at risk. 1526 01:08:56,104 --> 01:09:08,262 >> three u. I believe I highlighted that as a risk so the budget will not be approved until the end of january so there's a risk with that. 1527 01:09:08,262 --> 01:09:12,088 they've confirmed it's a best 1528 01:09:12,088 --> 01:09:13,069 estimate at this time and that's 1529 01:09:13,069 --> 01:09:13,349 what we gave in our budget. 1530 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:19,024 >> okay and any reference to the 1531 01:09:19,024 --> 01:09:35,347 mention of federal dollars I think was -- those again our dollars that had the flow-through the service manage -- manager of the city? 1532 01:09:35,347 --> 01:09:38,150 >> that's correct. Further reaching home and it can 1533 01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:39,572 be added if she would like. 1534 01:09:39,572 --> 01:09:40,924 there's a committee that decides 1535 01:09:40,924 --> 01:09:42,353 what to do with those dollars 1536 01:09:42,353 --> 01:09:55,763 so it's a bit different than the other provincial dollars but they've allocated 70,000. >> I guess my question would be 1537 01:09:55,763 --> 01:10:02,165 to administration then if those dollars that are at risk and obviously you've heard around 1538 01:10:02,165 --> 01:10:09,534 the table in terms of the requirements we are seeing obviously homelessness is becoming a critical issue for 1539 01:10:09,534 --> 01:10:09,534 u us. 1540 01:10:09,534 --> 01:10:11,369 we've seen the encampments. 1541 01:10:11,369 --> 01:10:13,964 now even our own municipality 1542 01:10:13,964 --> 01:10:15,312 we are faced with an encampment rate as we speak. 1543 01:10:15,312 --> 01:10:24,218 so I'm glad to see administration will continue to 1544 01:10:24,218 --> 01:10:28,797 dedicate funding who us. 1545 01:10:28,797 --> 01:10:33,229 obviously I don't know if it will be contravening the 1546 01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:38,270 arrangement, the signed agreement that we have that the 1547 01:10:38,270 --> 01:10:38,609 city as a service provider and 1548 01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:40,255 so forth. 1549 01:10:40,255 --> 01:10:44,686 but will administration come back to us? 1550 01:10:44,686 --> 01:10:47,328 I'm sure you will in terms of making up the difference because 1551 01:10:47,328 --> 01:10:51,383 obviously there is a requirement 1552 01:10:51,383 --> 01:10:51,383  requirement. 1553 01:10:51,383 --> 01:10:54,400 there's a huge requirement that's there and if those 1554 01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:12,510 dollars are direct risk -- the reserve fund that we have. >> through you those dollars are for the capital, the social housing capitals what the reserve was intended to support 1555 01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:12,510 . 1556 01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:20,725 if it does come to that we would definitely come back to council at that time depending on the dollar value of what we would 1557 01:11:20,725 --> 01:11:20,784 need to compensate for. 1558 01:11:20,784 --> 01:11:28,952 we would have to make the decision at that time but it would have to come to council 1559 01:11:28,952 --> 01:11:37,927 if there were additional dollars required for this >> and finally I think it's very important and I know we keep pushing back the meeting with 1560 01:11:37,927 --> 01:11:49,638 the city and so forth but I think it's critical we are at the crossroads here in terms of requirements in particular in 1561 01:11:49,638 --> 01:11:52,701 25 years working on the same agreement there needs to be improvements. 1562 01:11:52,701 --> 01:11:57,305 >> thank you. 1563 01:11:57,305 --> 01:11:57,364 anybody else? 1564 01:11:57,364 --> 01:12:04,565 I'm going to read the recommendation. 1565 01:12:04,565 --> 01:12:07,915 there's a recommendation before council that the presentation 1566 01:12:07,915 --> 01:12:17,209 for the proposed 2026 community services residential services budget be received and further the 2026 budget estimates community services residential 1567 01:12:13,197 --> 01:12:17,209 Services 1568 01:12:17,209 --> 01:12:17,209 the 2026 budget estimates community services residential 1569 01:12:17,209 --> 01:12:20,331 Services be received or received and approved. 1570 01:12:20,331 --> 01:12:21,096 I'm looking to you councillor 1571 01:12:21,096 --> 01:12:21,096 bailey. 1572 01:12:21,096 --> 01:12:26,553 >> a question if I could. 1573 01:12:26,553 --> 01:12:30,165 would you preferred to be a separate motion or integrated into this one? 1574 01:12:30,165 --> 01:12:40,418 I'd like to see the 5-dollar increase per diem forward subject to the city matching that I think it's really essential at a time when we're talking about partnership that we are lockstep. 1575 01:12:40,418 --> 01:12:44,091 that's our intention -- 1576 01:12:44,091 --> 01:12:45,291 >> I will look to the madam clerk. 1577 01:12:45,291 --> 01:12:55,920 >> could amend that wording provided that the city of windsor increase by $5 as well 1578 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:55,920 . 1579 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:06,051 >> madame morden, may I speak to this motion because it's changed a little? 1580 01:13:06,051 --> 01:13:11,076 >> I wanted to wait to get it 1581 01:13:11,076 --> 01:13:26,504 up on the board if you don't mind just so we have a clearly in front of us. 1582 01:13:26,504 --> 01:13:31,594 the revised motion should be in 1583 01:13:31,594 --> 01:13:31,653 your screens. 1584 01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:37,454 >> first I will look to the mover. 1585 01:13:37,454 --> 01:13:37,692 you are good with the rewording 1586 01:13:37,692 --> 01:13:37,692 ? 1587 01:13:37,692 --> 01:13:42,873 then we will get a second or. 1588 01:13:42,873 --> 01:13:51,980 you are good with that madame councillor? 1589 01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:55,170 seconded by councillor rogers. 1590 01:13:55,170 --> 01:14:01,238 I will open the floor to you councillor bailey. 1591 01:14:01,238 --> 01:14:07,123 bondy. Too many bees here. >> thank you. 1592 01:14:07,123 --> 01:14:09,473 I will be supporting the motion 1593 01:14:09,473 --> 01:14:11,191 . My worry is let's say the city 1594 01:14:11,191 --> 01:14:11,746 of windsor does not and we want 1595 01:14:11,746 --> 01:14:18,934 to because we realize maybe it's more expensive to provide services in the county because 1596 01:14:18,934 --> 01:14:19,368 we are rural and people have to 1597 01:14:19,368 --> 01:14:23,871 drive father -- further and all that stuff. 1598 01:14:23,871 --> 01:14:25,284 would it be a reconsideration 1599 01:14:25,284 --> 01:14:26,343 vote if it has to come back? 1600 01:14:26,343 --> 01:14:33,066 I'm worried if the city does not supported them our folks are just left hanging. That's my only worry. 1601 01:14:33,066 --> 01:14:43,182 >> a new motion would have to be brought to provide a standalone 1602 01:14:43,182 --> 01:14:43,463 5-dollar increase on behalf of the county. 1603 01:14:43,463 --> 01:14:53,567 anyone else? Councillor rogers query. >> thank you enter you again maybe a little more clarification. 1604 01:14:53,567 --> 01:14:58,865 if and when the city makes their decision and if and when they 1605 01:14:58,865 --> 01:15:02,051 are opposed either way they land on it, is that a discussion that 1606 01:15:02,051 --> 01:15:04,721 will come forward as an update from administration for us to 1607 01:15:04,721 --> 01:15:06,917 be able to make the motion? 1608 01:15:06,917 --> 01:15:09,715 knowing the process it's not going to have to be a notice of motion. 1609 01:15:09,715 --> 01:15:15,929 were going to have that within the agenda as an update on be able to have the discussion at 1610 01:15:15,929 --> 01:15:16,921 that time. 1611 01:15:16,921 --> 01:15:20,731 >> through you ward and, administration will return with results of the budgeting process 1612 01:15:20,731 --> 01:15:21,222 to confirm either way the decision. 1613 01:15:21,222 --> 01:15:25,309 >> any further questions then? 1614 01:15:25,309 --> 01:15:28,489 seeing none, councillor bondy did you have further comment? 1615 01:15:28,489 --> 01:15:35,269 you see my dilemma, right? 1616 01:15:35,269 --> 01:15:38,658 trying to make sure of got everybody covered and also be 1617 01:15:38,658 --> 01:15:41,073 quick devote. 1618 01:15:41,073 --> 01:15:41,251 asking to vote electronically, 1619 01:15:41,251 --> 01:15:42,889 please. 1620 01:15:42,889 --> 01:15:54,246 and that's carried. Thank you. 1621 01:15:54,246 --> 01:15:56,873 team. 1622 01:15:56,873 --> 01:16:03,225 next up is the sun par lindholm. 1623 01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:08,854 for the report we have natasha she learned -- here to present 1624 01:16:08,854 --> 01:16:08,854 . 1625 01:16:08,854 --> 01:16:14,725 this is a first for you. 1626 01:16:14,725 --> 01:16:16,932 don't be nervous, nobody bites 1627 01:16:16,932 --> 01:16:17,694 here. 1628 01:16:16,932 --> 01:16:17,694 At 1629 01:16:17,694 --> 01:16:17,694 here. 1630 01:16:17,694 --> 01:16:18,194 At least not -- they're just little. 1631 01:16:18,194 --> 01:16:23,833 >> thank you ward and to council council. 1632 01:16:23,833 --> 01:16:23,951 Good morning, everyone. 1633 01:16:23,951 --> 01:16:36,306 presenting the 2026 budget I'd like to start off with some thank youse to the finance team as well as leadership team across the board as the warden 1634 01:16:36,306 --> 01:16:36,584 mention this is my first year presenting. 1635 01:16:36,584 --> 01:16:44,409 bear with me as I make my way through the presentation. 1636 01:16:44,409 --> 01:16:50,703 the mission statement before you won't be unfamiliar. 1637 01:16:50,703 --> 01:16:52,736 many of you have seen this before and prior presentations 1638 01:16:52,736 --> 01:17:00,779  presentations... 1639 01:16:52,736 --> 01:17:00,779 This continues to 1640 01:17:00,779 --> 01:17:00,779  presentations... 1641 01:17:00,779 --> 01:17:05,003 This continues to serve as the fundamental service of the home. 1642 01:17:05,003 --> 01:17:06,643 it guides our actions and goals 1643 01:17:06,643 --> 01:17:14,394 . At sun pilar we envision a high-performing vibrant home that welcomes diversity across 1644 01:17:09,504 --> 01:17:14,394 Staff 1645 01:17:14,394 --> 01:17:14,394 high-performing vibrant home that welcomes diversity across 1646 01:17:14,394 --> 01:17:15,967 Staff and residents. 1647 01:17:15,967 --> 01:17:20,944 empowering to foster meaningful 1648 01:17:20,944 --> 01:17:26,910 relationships based on compassion innovation and dignity that creates an environment where people want 1649 01:17:26,910 --> 01:17:28,658 to live and work. 1650 01:17:28,658 --> 01:17:30,196 where residents experience excellent quality of life and care built on shared values. 1651 01:17:30,196 --> 01:17:39,723 the budget before you today addresses changing aging demographic which continues to 1652 01:17:39,723 --> 01:17:42,684 increase in complexity and acuity. 1653 01:17:42,684 --> 01:17:46,633 however this budget proposed to you today seeks to meet the needs across that continuum of 1654 01:17:46,633 --> 01:17:50,509 care while running a home that 1655 01:17:50,509 --> 01:17:51,167 everybody across the county of 1656 01:17:51,167 --> 01:17:51,226 essex can be proud of. 1657 01:17:51,226 --> 01:17:59,877 the remainder of the presentation is broken down by departments within the home. 1658 01:17:59,877 --> 01:18:07,641 as you can see the overall increase of approximately 620,000 relates to both nonunion 1659 01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:09,285 and contractual wage increases 1660 01:18:09,285 --> 01:18:12,400 and wage benefits as well. 1661 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:21,218 there's an increased ongoing replacement of it equipment, laptops, smart phones, et cetera 1662 01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:21,218  cetera. 1663 01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:30,509 there were rolls previously aligned to the sun parlour budget so now we are seeing -- 1664 01:18:30,509 --> 01:18:32,765 that were previously aligned to 1665 01:18:32,765 --> 01:18:33,464 various departmental budgets. 1666 01:18:33,464 --> 01:18:36,940 for example, we are now seeing 1667 01:18:36,940 --> 01:18:40,626 hr resources to the sun par lindholm budget and expense within the sun parlour home budget before you here today. 1668 01:18:40,626 --> 01:18:47,174 next up we turn to nursing and 1669 01:18:47,174 --> 01:18:47,292 personal care. 1670 01:18:47,292 --> 01:19:00,148 the biggest difference here within sun parlour home the budget last year was around $8 million while the projection 1671 01:19:00,148 --> 01:19:03,067 notes and overspend we're expecting to maintain a balanced 1672 01:19:03,067 --> 01:19:06,473 budget due to an increase in ministry funding that we have 1673 01:19:06,473 --> 01:19:06,532 received. 1674 01:19:06,473 --> 01:19:06,532 Going into 1675 01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:06,532 received. 1676 01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:10,586 Going into 2026 you will notice 1677 01:19:10,586 --> 01:19:14,684 a decreased budget reflected down by approximately $1 million as we continue to see increased support from the province. 1678 01:19:14,684 --> 01:19:23,326 we had the four hours of care target set by the ministry which is also supported by levy funding. 1679 01:19:23,326 --> 01:19:27,706 the budget is designed to deliver exemplary care and services. 1680 01:19:27,706 --> 01:19:34,152 we are also welcoming our new director of care and an anticipated nurse practitioners 1681 01:19:34,152 --> 01:19:41,428 so we can better understand the opportunities we have and increase the quality of care and experience for residents at sun parlor home. 1682 01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:47,310 a few other key considerations 1683 01:19:47,310 --> 01:19:51,077 you want to note is increased 1684 01:19:51,077 --> 01:19:51,638 cost related to membership fees 1685 01:19:51,638 --> 01:19:52,845 specific to our rn group. 1686 01:19:52,845 --> 01:19:58,007 we are now paying for annual college memberships and contractual obligations for our staff. 1687 01:19:58,007 --> 01:20:04,374 next up we turn to life enrichment. 1688 01:20:04,374 --> 01:20:22,030 it's comprised of recreation aids and physiotherapy assistance It promotes the health and well-being of residents through engagement, wellness activity and ultimately contributes towards healthy happy residents. 1689 01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:28,039 with a high quality of life -- 1690 01:20:28,039 --> 01:20:32,428 approximately 140,000 in this 1691 01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:34,827 increase is directly related to 1692 01:20:34,827 --> 01:20:40,164 support for recreation aids as well as union contractual wage 1693 01:20:40,164 --> 01:20:57,069 increases and purchase service increases for physiotherapy. 1694 01:20:57,069 --> 01:21:05,640 you will see an increase here based solely on contractual -- contractual wage increases and cost related to food. 1695 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:19,328 the increase around 23,000 is 1696 01:21:19,328 --> 01:21:19,387 directly related to contractual 1697 01:21:19,328 --> 01:21:19,387 Wage 1698 01:21:19,387 --> 01:21:19,387 directly related to contractual 1699 01:21:19,387 --> 01:21:19,446 Wage increases in inflationary cost. 1700 01:21:19,446 --> 01:21:30,896 were seeing an increase attributing to our contractual 1701 01:21:30,896 --> 01:21:32,321 wage increases and inflationary 1702 01:21:32,321 --> 01:21:45,474 costs related to supplies for this department. 1703 01:21:45,474 --> 01:21:47,383 we are also seeing an increase 1704 01:21:47,383 --> 01:21:55,250 in related to external contracts 1705 01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:57,249 that are rising with inflation 1706 01:21:57,249 --> 01:21:58,123 as well. 1707 01:21:58,123 --> 01:22:04,905 and we continue with many items across the home to replace based 1708 01:22:04,905 --> 01:22:05,688 on life expectancy and lifecycle of those items. 1709 01:22:05,688 --> 01:22:15,511 when we look at our other capital line here the bulk of the budget is reserved bonded. 1710 01:22:15,511 --> 01:22:19,887 however we are spending less in 1711 01:22:19,887 --> 01:22:21,320 2026. 1712 01:22:19,887 --> 01:22:21,320 That 1713 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:21,320 2026. 1714 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:30,072 That being said we ultimately need to make some decisions around capital costs related to renovations or investments in 1715 01:22:30,072 --> 01:22:35,652 new building which will be further supported by a feasibility study we are concluding in 2026. 1716 01:22:35,652 --> 01:22:41,240 there will be recommendations coming to council once that study is concluded. 1717 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:51,703 in summary the overall 2026 budget for sun parlor home net recoveries totals around 14 million. 1718 01:22:51,703 --> 01:23:04,241 this is a 0 percent increase over the 2025 budget which is reflective of ministry funding enhancements and leveraging provincially funded grants on investments to enhance or quality of care as and when they become available. 1719 01:23:04,241 --> 01:23:10,994 as we look forward to 2026 and 1720 01:23:10,994 --> 01:23:15,528 the initiatives outlined on the slide here before you we will 1721 01:23:15,528 --> 01:23:16,362 see there's a few key priorities 1722 01:23:16,362 --> 01:23:16,786 that ensure we maintain building 1723 01:23:16,786 --> 01:23:25,502 standards regulations and enhanced functionality across 1724 01:23:25,502 --> 01:23:25,561 very old home. 1725 01:23:25,561 --> 01:23:28,949 our focus is on the quality of 1726 01:23:28,949 --> 01:23:31,246 life for residents we are surveying while maintaining that 1727 01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:31,246 Aging 1728 01:23:31,246 --> 01:23:31,246 life for residents we are surveying while maintaining that 1729 01:23:31,246 --> 01:23:31,305 Aging infrastructure. 1730 01:23:31,305 --> 01:23:38,369 with that I will conclude and welcome any questions or comments from council. 1731 01:23:38,369 --> 01:23:39,967 thank you. 1732 01:23:39,967 --> 01:23:43,479 >> thank you, well done. 1733 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:53,476 we will start with you councillor rogers. >> thank you and through you I can tell you we appreciate the leadership and I think were headed in the right direction 1734 01:23:53,476 --> 01:23:53,740 so thank you for that. 1735 01:23:53,740 --> 01:23:56,387 I know we have a feasibility study coming. 1736 01:23:56,387 --> 01:24:00,297 big elephant in the room with this building and a lifecycle 1737 01:24:00,297 --> 01:24:02,830 decision to make. Maybe a couple of questions. 1738 01:24:02,830 --> 01:24:08,027 one is do we have any idea how much it costs to renovate per room? 1739 01:24:08,027 --> 01:24:21,041 >> through you the last item we have on that I believe was grey county That was constructed a couple 1740 01:24:21,041 --> 01:24:27,133 of years ago I believe now. That was $500,000 per bed. >> big number. 1741 01:24:27,133 --> 01:24:32,194 and just in terms of lifecycle of the whole facility do we have 1742 01:24:32,194 --> 01:24:36,279 any idea what that date is? 1743 01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:36,279 approximately. 1744 01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:48,305 won't hold you in stone. >> through you, warden we have a 1745 01:24:48,305 --> 01:24:48,487 50 year replacement cycle on the 1746 01:24:48,487 --> 01:24:55,104 building However it's a little unique when we have these standards we have to meet as well. 1747 01:24:55,104 --> 01:24:59,869 it's not just the building, it's meeting up to these different 1748 01:24:59,869 --> 01:25:00,420 standards typically. 1749 01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:04,756 so just have to keep that in mind as well. >> thank you and final question 1750 01:25:04,756 --> 01:25:07,000 , how much do we have in the bank 1751 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,569 allocated towards facility total 1752 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,569 Facility 1753 01:25:09,569 --> 01:25:09,569 allocated towards facility total 1754 01:25:09,569 --> 01:25:09,628 Facility replacement? 1755 01:25:09,628 --> 01:25:17,339 >> through you, ward in. 1756 01:25:17,339 --> 01:25:19,037 that's incorporated into our capital. 1757 01:25:19,037 --> 01:25:21,281 and capitol we have it split out 1758 01:25:21,281 --> 01:25:25,490 in there and I know we've been saving as much as we can and I 1759 01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:27,788 do think we have -- I believe 1760 01:25:27,788 --> 01:25:35,046 it's about 30 million saved. However I will get back to you to confirm that but I do know 1761 01:25:35,046 --> 01:25:36,468 anytime we can, we're talking 1762 01:25:36,468 --> 01:25:38,231 a way money there and knowing in the future we are going to do something. 1763 01:25:38,231 --> 01:25:44,137 >> thank you and final one now that big number in the future, 1764 01:25:44,137 --> 01:25:44,255 what is it? 1765 01:25:44,255 --> 01:25:52,840 won't hold you to it but an estimate We have to save $100 million for a new hospital. 1766 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,185 it's a billion-dollar hospital a couple of years ago. 1767 01:25:56,185 --> 01:26:02,920 >> I will speak and not provide 1768 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,713 a number with the feasibility 1769 01:26:04,713 --> 01:26:16,024 study being done to give us the numbers, to give council a good indicator of what that will look like but on that, natasha will add >> thank you. 1770 01:26:16,024 --> 01:26:26,213 one other piece I would -- a slight peace of mind if I may is the ministry supplemental support for rebuilds and redevelopments it's at an all-time high. 1771 01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:37,686 so I guess what I might offer is the 85 percent support from the ministry may give us a bit of 1772 01:26:37,686 --> 01:26:40,211 a competitive advantage over what municipal partners would exceed. 1773 01:26:40,211 --> 01:26:50,065 while we do not have the specifics here today I think it's an opportune time to be having these conversations and 1774 01:26:50,065 --> 01:27:03,079 certainly appreciated we don't have specifics here but we will come back with those >> I appreciated and I'm definitely jumping the gun soy assume that study again will provide the number of beds as well as look at possible expansion as well. 1775 01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:16,500 >> I think a key component of the feasibility study looks at population growth and how we compared to the broader windsor essex community for sure. >> thank you. 1776 01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:16,996 >> anyone else? 1777 01:27:16,996 --> 01:27:28,854 there is a recommendation for 1778 01:27:28,854 --> 01:27:37,621 the proposed 2026 sun parlor budget be received and that the 2026 budget estimates be received or received and approved Looking to council for your wishes. 1779 01:27:37,621 --> 01:27:42,369 councillor prove. received and approved? 1780 01:27:42,369 --> 01:27:46,655 >> yes, please. >> thank you. 1781 01:27:46,655 --> 01:27:54,629 seconded by councillor deyong. 1782 01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:55,670 any discussion. 1783 01:27:55,670 --> 01:28:09,947 I will ask you to vote electronically please. 1784 01:28:09,947 --> 01:28:23,747 and that's carried. 1785 01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:25,332 thank you. 1786 01:28:25,332 --> 01:28:29,608 and that's carried. I did say that? 1787 01:28:29,608 --> 01:28:36,282 it's 10:27 so I would ask for a 1788 01:28:36,282 --> 01:28:38,359 motion to recess for 15 minute 1789 01:28:38,359 --> 01:28:38,418 break. 1790 01:28:38,418 --> 01:28:50,232 that motion is essex county councillor recess until -- let's just make it 10:45. 1791 01:28:50,232 --> 01:28:54,416 moved by councillor meloche, seconded by councillor akpata. 1792 01:28:54,416 --> 01:28:54,653 all in favour of recess? 1793 01:28:54,653 --> 01:28:57,752 that's carried. 1794 01:28:57,752 --> 01:28:59,329 thank you. 1795 01:29:19,359 --> 01:47:33,392 >> are 15 minutes have passed rather quickly so we're ready to 1796 01:47:33,392 --> 01:47:46,739 resume our budget deliberations. Next up we have our chief of essex windsor emergency medical services here to provide presentation regarding the ems 1797 01:47:46,739 --> 01:47:47,356 2026 budget. 1798 01:47:47,356 --> 01:47:50,737 just and, you are up. >> good morning and thank you. 1799 01:47:50,737 --> 01:48:05,196 I'm pleased to present the proposed 2026 ems departmental budget for consideration. The account -- is present... As well as speak to challenges and issued during development 1800 01:48:05,196 --> 01:48:05,314 of the 2026 budget. 1801 01:48:05,314 --> 01:48:14,628 presenting the budget and two components through the funding of each aspect. Versus medical services and the 1802 01:48:14,628 --> 01:48:19,735 second for volunteer care. For clarity emergency management 1803 01:48:19,735 --> 01:48:25,278 has been moved under -- over under the leadership of health and safety in human resources... 1804 01:48:25,278 --> 01:48:31,857 the chart on the screen is an overall total of expenditures 1805 01:48:31,857 --> 01:48:36,185 for -- I will address each section of the budget separately 1806 01:48:36,185 --> 01:48:36,737  separately. 1807 01:48:36,185 --> 01:48:36,737 In developing 1808 01:48:36,737 --> 01:48:36,737  separately. 1809 01:48:36,737 --> 01:48:38,931 In developing the 2026 budget we 1810 01:48:38,931 --> 01:48:41,735 reviewed the current upcoming priorities with a primary focus 1811 01:48:41,735 --> 01:48:43,760 on preparing for future growth, continuous quality improvement 1812 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,494 , innovation and response times. 1813 01:48:46,494 --> 01:48:52,037 with that we will begin with the emergency medical services budget. 1814 01:48:52,037 --> 01:48:55,884 the proposed budget is 4.37  4.37 percent increase over the 1815 01:48:55,884 --> 01:49:01,133 2025 budget as it relates to expenditures on the county responsibility increases... 1816 01:49:01,133 --> 01:49:07,146 factors for the proposed budget 1817 01:49:07,146 --> 01:49:07,695 are eight paramedics including 1818 01:49:07,695 --> 01:49:10,538 12 hour shifts starting in june 1819 01:49:10,538 --> 01:49:11,363  june 2026. 1820 01:49:11,363 --> 01:49:18,551 one manager of physical resources to support infrastructure growth. Anticipated asset management replacement of vehicles. 1821 01:49:18,551 --> 01:49:19,320 improving the quality work we're 1822 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:19,660 doing in planning for the future 1823 01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:19,660  future. 1824 01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:25,624 our funding is based on 50  50 percent of the prior year's 1825 01:49:25,624 --> 01:49:25,942 budget. 1826 01:49:25,942 --> 01:49:29,007 50 percent funded by the ministry of health and remaining 1827 01:49:29,007 --> 01:49:30,325 50 percent divided within the 1828 01:49:29,007 --> 01:49:30,325 Local 1829 01:49:30,325 --> 01:49:30,325 50 percent divided within the 1830 01:49:30,325 --> 01:49:33,111 Local municipal partners based 1831 01:49:33,111 --> 01:49:33,608 on weighted assessment. 1832 01:49:33,608 --> 01:49:38,569 it's estimated the weighted assessment will continue to increase the county's responsibility is development and growth continues to rise. 1833 01:49:38,569 --> 01:49:53,195 every year we conducted disciplinary budget to identify opportunities to reduce cost, reallocate resources more effectively and reinvest in areas that deliver the greatest 1834 01:49:53,195 --> 01:50:02,382 impact for operations We continue to advocate for system-level changes that reduce demand on 911 in the first place place. 1835 01:50:02,382 --> 01:50:06,928 we actively pursue innovative opportunities from new technologies to alternative care 1836 01:50:06,928 --> 01:50:13,293 pathways to deliver better patient outcomes while delivering cost and reducing pressure to front-line resources 1837 01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,293  resources. 1838 01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,293 The 1839 01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,293  resources. 1840 01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:15,998 The main system impact on our services call volumes. 1841 01:50:15,998 --> 01:50:20,150 you can see in the chart there's a couple projection lines based 1842 01:50:20,150 --> 01:50:21,089 on percentage increases. 1843 01:50:21,089 --> 01:50:27,176 for 2025 looking at 1.5 to 2  2 percent increase in responses we will no better when the years 1844 01:50:27,176 --> 01:50:27,338 concluded. 1845 01:50:27,338 --> 01:50:29,106 on the turkey only projection 1846 01:50:29,106 --> 01:50:38,876 line is 4 percent and 5 percent. I want to make a note that these slides in september where we were forecasting 4.3 percent increase We reviewed our numbers on with 1847 01:50:38,876 --> 01:50:40,535 q4 numbers being slightly lower 1848 01:50:40,535 --> 01:50:45,890 than previous at this moment will be under the master plan projection a 4.5 percent for 2025. 1849 01:50:45,890 --> 01:50:51,354 staffing levels we continue to focus on improving working conditions to ensure those were 1850 01:50:51,354 --> 01:50:54,315 working here want to stay here. 1851 01:50:54,315 --> 01:50:56,941 and engage in ongoing recruitment efforts locally and 1852 01:50:56,941 --> 01:50:59,115 across the province for individuals interested in coming 1853 01:50:59,115 --> 01:50:59,351 to work for essex windsor ems. 1854 01:50:59,351 --> 01:51:14,405 ambulance offload delays are occurring but magnitude has been reduced compared to previous years and I'm happy to tell you for the month of september and october and november of this year were down 32 percent compared to the same period of 1855 01:51:14,405 --> 01:51:15,884 time last year and were seeing 1856 01:51:15,884 --> 01:51:16,368 some movement. 1857 01:51:16,368 --> 01:51:21,120 that's 1267 staff ambulance hours back on her street. 1858 01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:27,353 two new 12 hour shifts in the 1859 01:51:27,353 --> 01:51:28,459 2026 budget through prebudget 1860 01:51:28,459 --> 01:51:28,725 approval the two new ambulances 1861 01:51:28,725 --> 01:51:31,733 have been ordered and within the 1862 01:51:31,733 --> 01:51:33,699 budget eight paramedics requested the operationalize let 1863 01:51:33,699 --> 01:51:34,424 him as you recall from director 1864 01:51:34,424 --> 01:51:40,931 of hr reporting to council on october 15th eight paramedics 1865 01:51:40,931 --> 01:51:45,583 were being requested and initially we asked for four primary care and four advanced 1866 01:51:45,583 --> 01:51:45,800 care paramedics. 1867 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,366 since then we had discussions 1868 01:51:48,366 --> 01:52:02,916 with the 2974 executive and reversed a request for the four acp to convert them in to pcp. A total of 12 -- the reason for this is currently we have open spots on or scheduled without 1869 01:52:02,916 --> 01:52:05,180 working that spot it creates a 1870 01:52:05,180 --> 01:52:10,277 temporary full-time position which is unfavourable for part-time staff looking to go 1871 01:52:10,277 --> 01:52:13,681 permanent full-time. Understanding the paramedic positions are likely required 1872 01:52:13,681 --> 01:52:16,310 in the foreseeable future will continue to work with the union 1873 01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:16,869 executive to better strategize 1874 01:52:16,869 --> 01:52:18,512 on how to fill these spots and 1875 01:52:18,512 --> 01:52:21,897 if there's a time when individuals within the service 1876 01:52:21,897 --> 01:52:24,525 are qualified as advanced care paramedics we looked -- work to 1877 01:52:24,525 --> 01:52:27,815 -- through processes allocating percentage of her... 1878 01:52:27,815 --> 01:52:45,214 a manager fiscal resource position included beginning of the second quarter of 2026 which will support oversight investment facilities and equipment operations during timely efficient and accountable 1879 01:52:45,214 --> 01:52:47,186 project execution by focusing on 1880 01:52:47,186 --> 01:52:48,166 process management compliance 1881 01:52:48,166 --> 01:52:49,523 and preventative maintenance to 1882 01:52:49,523 --> 01:52:55,605 reduce bottlenecks strengthen infrastructure readiness and address findings from the 2024 ministry review. 1883 01:52:52,981 --> 01:52:55,605 In line 1884 01:52:55,605 --> 01:52:55,605 address findings from the 2024 ministry review. 1885 01:52:55,605 --> 01:53:00,970 In line with the 2024 master plan refresh the role will help 1886 01:53:00,970 --> 01:53:02,323 the service manager growing operational complexity and support future initiatives. 1887 01:53:02,323 --> 01:53:10,326 second human capital investment as additional services provided 1888 01:53:10,326 --> 01:53:12,509 by human resources generalist 1889 01:53:12,509 --> 01:53:14,715 within human resources to be shared with a long-term care home. 1890 01:53:14,715 --> 01:53:19,149 the position will provide essential hr support to essex 1891 01:53:19,149 --> 01:53:31,098 windsor ems by managing recruitment onboarding and compliance processes ensuring timely hiring and reducing risk through certifications on regulatory breaches. Delivering front-line guidance to supervisors and managers on 1892 01:53:31,098 --> 01:53:40,335 investigations and employee accommodations while strengthening return to work programs to improve both risk management and staff experience 1893 01:53:40,335 --> 01:53:42,197 by taking on these additional 1894 01:53:40,335 --> 01:53:42,197 Responsibilities 1895 01:53:42,197 --> 01:53:42,197 by taking on these additional 1896 01:53:42,197 --> 01:53:45,955 Responsibilities the role will free up the hr management focus 1897 01:53:45,955 --> 01:53:47,485 on strategic initiatives labour relations and long-term 1898 01:53:46,328 --> 01:53:47,485 Workforce 1899 01:53:47,485 --> 01:53:47,485 on strategic initiatives labour relations and long-term 1900 01:53:47,485 --> 01:53:47,544 Workforce planning. 1901 01:53:47,544 --> 01:53:52,704 some smaller budgetary impact 1902 01:53:52,704 --> 01:53:53,468 you will notice maintenance on 1903 01:53:53,468 --> 01:53:56,591 technical support is being requested for the installation 1904 01:53:56,591 --> 01:54:04,604 of ambulances The transition to ipads will save money and replacement cost is the previous technology laptops we're -- expensive. 1905 01:54:04,604 --> 01:54:09,474 the transition allows us to leverage more robust and accurate mapping software. 1906 01:54:09,474 --> 01:54:18,107 we've included slight budget line increases the support wellness initiatives public relations and stayton -- station management and repairs. 1907 01:54:18,107 --> 01:54:32,907 in 2026 we will plates seven ambulances one logistics vehicle and one administrative vehicle additionally as part of the capital plan ems will continue to move forward with the facilities project while our team manages the work funding 1908 01:54:32,907 --> 01:54:35,150 for the capital projects is reflected in the finance budget 1909 01:54:35,150 --> 01:54:35,537 as the county owns the assets. 1910 01:54:35,537 --> 01:54:41,608 I will switch over to community paramedics and for long-term care. 1911 01:54:41,608 --> 01:54:45,939 it's funded 100 percent by the ministry of long-term care and 1912 01:54:45,939 --> 01:54:55,669 as a component of integrated healthcare program. New this year the ministry of long-term care and outs funding would be made permanent and essex awaiting on the details 1913 01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:57,535 of the allocation before we proceed proceed. 1914 01:54:57,535 --> 01:55:01,493 the program is fully funded by the ministry of long-term care and there's no requirement for county funding. 1915 01:55:01,493 --> 01:55:16,909 this slide includes the positions that were tabled when we were working collaboratively with the county of essex due to the mandate for the levy increase. 1916 01:55:13,617 --> 01:55:16,909 These did 1917 01:55:16,909 --> 01:55:16,909 the mandate for the levy increase. 1918 01:55:16,909 --> 01:55:18,651 These did not make it but I will speak to each one of these as we 1919 01:55:18,651 --> 01:55:20,227 go through. 1920 01:55:20,227 --> 01:55:28,407 additional training hours expanding training hours for windsor essex for education that 1921 01:55:28,407 --> 01:55:29,930 insures adopting new protocols 1922 01:55:29,930 --> 01:55:33,121 such as training release and emergency department diversion 1923 01:55:33,121 --> 01:55:38,932 . Support special projects and teams and stay current with mandatory updates on best practices. 1924 01:55:36,901 --> 01:55:38,932 Investment support strengthening 1925 01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:38,932 mandatory updates on best practices. 1926 01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:38,932 Investment support strengthening 1927 01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:51,070 staff to leadership relationships fostering resilient teams and trauma informed care in the service for provincial reforms without additional hours remains capped 1928 01:55:51,070 --> 01:55:55,342 it's important to note eight of the hours we have are from training. 1929 01:55:51,967 --> 01:55:55,342 We 1930 01:55:55,342 --> 01:55:55,342 the hours we have are from training. 1931 01:55:55,342 --> 01:55:57,932 We have no control over the contents essentially the service 1932 01:55:57,932 --> 01:55:58,759 gets eight hours with the stop once per year. 1933 01:55:58,759 --> 01:56:08,097 with those eight hours it's going to force legislative and operational changes, wellness 1934 01:56:08,097 --> 01:56:10,396 on leadership and updates to compete for limited time. 1935 01:56:10,396 --> 01:56:12,526 we have the pds coming down in 1936 01:56:12,526 --> 01:56:14,334 2027. 1937 01:56:12,526 --> 01:56:14,334 We 1938 01:56:14,334 --> 01:56:14,334 2027. 1939 01:56:14,334 --> 01:56:15,594 We have new software rolling out 1940 01:56:15,594 --> 01:56:17,944 in 2026 that we need to train 1941 01:56:17,944 --> 01:56:20,249 on it It becomes difficult to make that happen. 1942 01:56:20,249 --> 01:56:30,965 it results in fragmented transfer and consistent practice and missed opportunities to safeguard staff well-being built leadership capacity and sustain long-term workforce stability. 1943 01:56:29,754 --> 01:56:30,965 The commander 1944 01:56:30,965 --> 01:56:30,965 capacity and sustain long-term workforce stability. 1945 01:56:30,965 --> 01:56:40,333 The commander of operations introducing capacity with an operations department to strengthen operational performance by creating oversight deployment efficiency 1946 01:56:40,333 --> 01:56:41,805 and realtime issue resolution. 1947 01:56:41,805 --> 01:56:44,770 it'll also enhance staff engagement through increased 1948 01:56:41,805 --> 01:56:44,770 Leadership 1949 01:56:44,770 --> 01:56:44,770 it'll also enhance staff engagement through increased 1950 01:56:44,770 --> 01:56:51,128 Leadership presence on mentor ship which builds greater resiliency for date -- daily operational issues, large-scale 1951 01:56:51,128 --> 01:56:54,949 incidents and ensures consistent application of policies across the service. 1952 01:56:54,949 --> 01:56:57,959 without the position the deputy chief and front-line management 1953 01:56:57,959 --> 01:57:08,202 team will continue to remain somewhat a reactive posture with difficulties in proactive planning result will be ongoing performance gaps and consistent oversight and limited readiness to meet the strategic priorities 1954 01:57:08,202 --> 01:57:08,202  priorities. 1955 01:57:08,202 --> 01:57:16,956 communications officers, I'm going to speak to this inside of legislative and legal services 1956 01:57:16,956 --> 01:57:17,015 under david's department coming 1957 01:57:17,015 --> 01:57:27,301 from essex windsor ems in establishing a dedicated communications resource will significantly strengthen public 1958 01:57:27,301 --> 01:57:28,335 education safety and engagement 1959 01:57:28,335 --> 01:57:34,087 while providing a reliable framework for launching community programs such as our community education. 1960 01:57:34,087 --> 01:57:39,356 this role will continue to build ems specific brand awareness, 1961 01:57:39,356 --> 01:57:42,309 promote recruitment and retention and enhance county and 1962 01:57:42,309 --> 01:57:56,256 ems reputation through consistent messaging and evidence-based outreach. Boosting our social media presence particularly video content and collaboration with stakeholders the position is anticipated to improve recognition community trust and 1963 01:57:56,256 --> 01:57:58,166 without approval ems will remain 1964 01:57:58,166 --> 01:58:03,362 dependent on the current communications department support which is doing a good job but ems does eat up a lot 1965 01:58:03,362 --> 01:58:04,408 of their time. 1966 01:58:03,362 --> 01:58:04,408 There's a lot 1967 01:58:04,408 --> 01:58:04,408 of their time. 1968 01:58:04,408 --> 01:58:04,467 There's a lot happening in ems 1969 01:58:04,467 --> 01:58:09,117 and we send stuff very frequently pick the considerable 1970 01:58:09,117 --> 01:58:12,887 workload on the department. 1971 01:58:12,887 --> 01:58:14,159 community programs coordinator 1972 01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:15,789 establishing a full-time community programs coordinator 1973 01:58:15,789 --> 01:58:22,635 will build on the concert -- the considerable gains achieved... Across our community educating 1974 01:58:22,635 --> 01:58:25,288 our youth promoting the profession and strengthening public trust. 1975 01:58:25,288 --> 01:58:26,974 the role will ensure consistent 1976 01:58:26,974 --> 01:58:33,701 outreach training, ongoing program expansion and engaging 1977 01:58:33,701 --> 01:58:40,259 in joint initiatives with other emergency services and healthcare partners while providing meaningful opportunities for modified duty 1978 01:58:40,259 --> 01:58:43,886 personnel and those returning from operational stress leave 1979 01:58:43,886 --> 01:58:45,498 to reengage with the uniform before 1980 01:58:45,498 --> 01:58:45,715 resuming full front-line duties 1981 01:58:45,715 --> 01:58:45,715 . 1982 01:58:45,715 --> 01:58:56,723 by sustaining visibility and proactive engagement the position will enhance ems's reputation as innovative and community focused. 1983 01:58:56,723 --> 01:59:01,653 seeking to improve bystander intervention rates for all emergencies reduce preventable 1984 01:59:01,653 --> 01:59:02,041 911 calls. 1985 01:59:01,653 --> 01:59:02,041 Without 1986 01:59:02,041 --> 01:59:02,041 911 calls. 1987 01:59:02,041 --> 01:59:04,940 Without approval will be forced 1988 01:59:04,940 --> 01:59:12,833 to scale back its current presence limiting public education 880 awareness and decreasing the momentum that's already been built. 1989 01:59:12,833 --> 01:59:18,439 ems systems analyst director of it will speak to this but I can 1990 01:59:18,439 --> 01:59:20,084 tell you from an ems perspective 1991 01:59:20,084 --> 01:59:23,044 because it's a very technical 1992 01:59:23,044 --> 01:59:25,254 position we have extensive software and data resources but 1993 01:59:25,254 --> 01:59:29,839 they are not fully optimized pick the systems analyst roll would focus on improving these 1994 01:59:29,839 --> 01:59:31,778 tools on driving efficiency and enabling systemwide innovation 1995 01:59:31,778 --> 01:59:31,778 . 1996 01:59:31,778 --> 01:59:37,593 finally vehicle services technician. 1997 01:59:37,593 --> 01:59:52,498 with previous on the upcoming vehicle additions to the fleet the workload on our vehicle support technician is starting to outpace capacity posing risk to preventative maintenance reliability and compliance introducing a second will strengthen 1998 01:59:52,498 --> 01:59:55,366 operational performance by ensuring timely 1999 01:59:55,366 --> 01:59:59,045 repairs inspections and documentation reducing reliance 2000 01:59:59,045 --> 02:00:02,504 on outsourcing and providing critical redundancy during absences or peak demand. 2001 02:00:02,504 --> 02:00:06,391 we don't have a backup so when the individuals taking vacation 2002 02:00:06,391 --> 02:00:08,699 we are outsourcing the work. 2003 02:00:08,699 --> 02:00:10,303 the added capacity will improve 2004 02:00:10,303 --> 02:00:13,841 a fit -- available to, safeguard 2005 02:00:13,841 --> 02:00:14,119 staff with reliable vehicles and 2006 02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:18,162 position the service sustainably and cost-effectively. 2007 02:00:18,162 --> 02:00:21,456 without the role the model will continue to generate backlogs 2008 02:00:18,162 --> 02:00:21,456 And 2009 02:00:21,456 --> 02:00:21,456 without the role the model will continue to generate backlogs 2010 02:00:21,456 --> 02:00:27,968 And compliance gaps down time leaving the organization reactive or unable to meet the demands of the expanding fleet and service delivery model. 2011 02:00:27,968 --> 02:00:38,930 in conclusion I thank you for the opportunity to present the proposed 2026 emergency to service -- department budget to 2012 02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:39,466 council. 2013 02:00:39,466 --> 02:00:41,186 I'd like to thank councillors... 2014 02:00:41,186 --> 02:00:45,290 miss heidi macleod, kelly schmidt and the essex windsor 2015 02:00:45,290 --> 02:00:47,489 senior leadership team for the preparation of the budget and 2016 02:00:47,489 --> 02:00:51,336 I'd like to thank the entire team at essex windsor for the 2017 02:00:51,336 --> 02:00:52,593 continued dedication I'm open to any questions at council may have. 2018 02:00:52,593 --> 02:01:02,214 >> thanks. Are there any questions regarding the>> are 2026 budget estimates there any questions? 2019 02:01:02,214 --> 02:01:02,214 ? 2020 02:01:02,214 --> 02:01:08,603 starting with you. >> thank you for the presentation, I 2021 02:01:08,603 --> 02:01:25,072 know it is not an easy thing for anyone to do but the one item you cut was the additional training hours and I feel like you did use the word mandatory training that we would not be getting if we didn't have those additional hours. 2022 02:01:25,072 --> 02:01:26,324 is that correct? 2023 02:01:26,324 --> 02:01:35,021 >> we would have to define mandatory but anything that comes down from the province, 2024 02:01:35,021 --> 02:01:49,621 we do have to train and we would try to find ways to do it. Essentially we get one day with all of our staff and we pack everything in and then we try to get innovative with putting champions on the street developing field training officer roles and getting them out 2025 02:01:49,621 --> 02:01:53,883 there. Anything mandatory from the minister of health we would absolutely be taking care of the 2026 02:01:53,883 --> 02:01:54,212 training and we would leave that undone. 2027 02:01:54,212 --> 02:02:01,163 however, there is more than just that happening and once a year 2028 02:02:01,163 --> 02:02:07,071 out of 12 months we get six weeks in the fall and things have happened in february and 2029 02:02:07,071 --> 02:02:10,512 march trying to get that communication and get the training done so it becomes very difficult. 2030 02:02:10,512 --> 02:02:24,788 >> you have asked for an additional 199,935 if we could included in the budget. How many ours is that her person 2031 02:02:24,788 --> 02:02:27,083 in order to get the training that is needed? 2032 02:02:27,083 --> 02:02:29,874 training is extremely important 2033 02:02:29,874 --> 02:02:34,683 whether you are new or whether 2034 02:02:34,683 --> 02:02:41,034 you are seasoned training is something we should never shove to the side and I would be hoping that council may see that 2035 02:02:41,034 --> 02:02:42,831 this is an item we should add 2036 02:02:42,831 --> 02:02:42,883 to the budget. 2037 02:02:42,883 --> 02:02:44,092 what would that give to each of 2038 02:02:44,092 --> 02:02:44,202 our ems workers? 2039 02:02:44,202 --> 02:02:50,757 >> another eight hours of training to each paramedic the service. 2040 02:02:50,323 --> 02:02:50,757 >> thank you 2041 02:02:50,757 --> 02:02:50,757 training to each paramedic the service. 2042 02:02:50,757 --> 02:02:55,245 >> thank you. 2043 02:02:55,245 --> 02:02:56,342 councillor gibb. >> thank you, madam morden. 2044 02:02:56,342 --> 02:03:14,233 through you to the chief, could you expand on this community programs coordinator and if you could talk more about the success of our public access defibrillator program and what 2045 02:03:14,233 --> 02:03:19,087 you feel will happen to that program if this coordinated position is not funded? 2046 02:03:19,087 --> 02:03:25,382 >> through you warden, the coordinator is a position you 2047 02:03:25,382 --> 02:03:31,074 are likely all familiar with with the enbridge grant, an individual that works with us 2048 02:03:31,074 --> 02:03:33,638 that is out on the street promoting the uptake and use of public access defibrillators but 2049 02:03:33,638 --> 02:03:50,701 also a big part of public education For about a year and a half we have been making this work in previous it was a piecemeal operation who was not able to be at work someone on modified duties we had no running cadence of a strategy of a plan to make sure we 2050 02:03:50,701 --> 02:03:51,411 could continue doing it. 2051 02:03:51,411 --> 02:03:57,103 when this individual started we had roughly 300 public access 2052 02:03:57,103 --> 02:03:57,211 defibrillators mapped out on the 2053 02:03:57,211 --> 02:04:00,546 street, we are over 1400, about 2054 02:04:00,546 --> 02:04:05,411 85 have been -- are brand-new 2055 02:04:05,411 --> 02:04:07,431 that have been installed in organizations as a result of the work this individual is doing. 2056 02:04:07,431 --> 02:04:11,761 we are starting down the road, 2057 02:04:11,761 --> 02:04:13,616 every municipality has supported 2058 02:04:13,616 --> 02:04:22,926 that and in rotate cabinets, that is the next division to make sure it's not locked up behind closed doors. Over 50 schools, educating over 2059 02:04:22,926 --> 02:04:31,667 2000 people and over 1200 of those being students and 134 public session so what would happen is we would do the best 2060 02:04:31,667 --> 02:04:32,544 we could with what we have but 2061 02:04:32,544 --> 02:04:32,655 it will be fragmented. 2062 02:04:32,655 --> 02:04:37,168 we would definitely lose the gains that we've had, it would 2063 02:04:37,168 --> 02:04:41,712 not be a hard stop but it would not be what you see right now. 2064 02:04:41,712 --> 02:04:48,435 >> as a follow-up, if I may, you talk about building community resilience, this position builds community resilience. 2065 02:04:48,435 --> 02:05:00,683 how does that affect in the situations where we have code  code red, code block, how does it assist you and your team to 2066 02:05:00,683 --> 02:05:07,687 provide that, you know, life-saving care when the system is stretched? 2067 02:05:07,687 --> 02:05:14,466 >> I will break that into 2  2 pillars, one being the defibrillator. 2068 02:05:14,466 --> 02:05:15,883 we know that if a defibrillators 2069 02:05:15,883 --> 02:05:17,426 applied within the first minute 2070 02:05:17,426 --> 02:05:19,495 there is a 90% chance of survival and it goes down temper 2071 02:05:19,495 --> 02:05:21,904 sense every minute after that. 2072 02:05:21,904 --> 02:05:26,713 the more knowing how to do cpr 2073 02:05:26,713 --> 02:05:28,633 and have access to a defibrillator and know how to 2074 02:05:28,633 --> 02:05:29,674 use it is putting our hands further into the community and 2075 02:05:29,674 --> 02:05:34,482 leverage lay responders and that 2076 02:05:34,482 --> 02:05:39,463 has it's own trajectory is how far we can go with that. The other piece is the public 2077 02:05:39,463 --> 02:05:45,201 relations, getting to the schools and talking to the people and went to call 911 and how to stop a bleed, all of these things that are happening 2078 02:05:45,201 --> 02:05:47,935 that are educating our youth and our community members to make the right call. 2079 02:05:47,935 --> 02:05:50,676 that maybe 911 is not the option 2080 02:05:50,676 --> 02:05:53,573 or we are improving mortality 2081 02:05:53,573 --> 02:05:59,263 rates because they are being able to apply basic first aid and skills while the paramedic 2082 02:05:59,263 --> 02:06:03,851 's are on their way so every person in the community that understands our mission and how 2083 02:06:03,851 --> 02:06:07,184 they can contribute as a good steward of our community is a bonus for us. 2084 02:06:07,184 --> 02:06:09,374 >> thank you very much. 2085 02:06:09,374 --> 02:06:23,430 I look to the warden, I would like to make a motion to add this position to the budget and I don't know if now is the appropriate time to have the discussion or if it should wait. 2086 02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:34,091 >> what if we take all the comments around the table first and then when I read the recommendation you can add to it 2087 02:06:34,091 --> 02:06:35,185  it, whatever you would like to do. 2088 02:06:34,091 --> 02:06:35,185 Is that 2089 02:06:35,185 --> 02:06:35,185 it, whatever you would like to do. 2090 02:06:35,185 --> 02:06:35,242 Is that okay? 2091 02:06:35,242 --> 02:06:38,247 there may still be some more suggestions. 2092 02:06:38,247 --> 02:06:41,760 okay, thank you. 2093 02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:50,233 councillor bondy. >> thank you warden mcdonald, I want to thank the councilmember across the table 2094 02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:50,233 . 2095 02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:54,275 I will easily support that and I'm hoping the balance to support that. 2096 02:06:54,275 --> 02:07:01,884 I have a couple questions. When it says excluded from budget ranked in order, does that mean that is the order of preference from administration 2097 02:07:01,884 --> 02:07:04,937 as a whole and how they would like to see if we were to bring any positions back? 2098 02:07:04,937 --> 02:07:07,346 because the community programs 2099 02:07:07,346 --> 02:07:19,595 coordinator is ranked number 1 so is that from an administrative point of view and I'm talking about appendix three three, does that mean that position is the most important to bring back? 2100 02:07:19,595 --> 02:07:36,652 it's appendix three. >> I will speak to appendix three and I will let chief lammers speak. What we did as senior leadership 2101 02:07:36,652 --> 02:07:46,445 is we had all of these items on the table and we decided as a leadership team we ranked what we thought was most important 2102 02:07:46,445 --> 02:07:46,604 and we tallied up the results to 2103 02:07:46,604 --> 02:07:52,292 present to council in that fashion to everything there was a collective effort based on all 2104 02:07:52,292 --> 02:07:58,856 of the senior leadership team decisions but I will let justin speak to the importance of the 2105 02:07:58,856 --> 02:08:04,435 position in respective of all of his items >> thank you. 2106 02:08:04,435 --> 02:08:08,106 just looking at the slides here, 2107 02:08:08,106 --> 02:08:10,886 if you are asking what the order 2108 02:08:10,886 --> 02:08:15,489 of preference is obviously the community programs coordinator, 2109 02:08:15,489 --> 02:08:17,182 that is going to have a big impact across the board if we 2110 02:08:17,182 --> 02:08:17,235 don't have that. 2111 02:08:17,235 --> 02:08:24,615 additional training ours for me is a big one. We definitely are not training 2112 02:08:24,615 --> 02:08:27,463 our staff as often as we should and when I compare ourselves to 2113 02:08:27,463 --> 02:08:28,716 others services in the province, 2114 02:08:28,716 --> 02:08:30,414 we are low on the side of training. 2115 02:08:30,414 --> 02:08:33,419 it's been a budgetary ask for quite some time but has not been able to make it to the table. 2116 02:08:33,419 --> 02:08:38,016 outside of that, any capacity, 2117 02:08:38,016 --> 02:08:43,377 any support we can get as a whole to continue on the development and the growth of this organization would be appreciated. 2118 02:08:43,377 --> 02:08:48,075 >> thank you for that. 2119 02:08:48,075 --> 02:08:52,562 I see several positions from ems 2120 02:08:52,562 --> 02:09:02,631 so it is under 12.2 budget overview in case some other members of council can't see it because you have to go back. 2121 02:09:02,631 --> 02:09:07,322 I am wondering what else we can 2122 02:09:07,322 --> 02:09:08,913 do. 2123 02:09:08,913 --> 02:09:20,183 I know we don't like to raise the levee but the levy is a very reasonable levy and when it comes to ems, we need to support ems more than we need to support 2124 02:09:20,183 --> 02:09:25,707 the mega-hospital right now in my opinion because the mega mega-hospital, we are doing really well, I believe in saving 2125 02:09:25,707 --> 02:09:31,009 money for that but ems, supporting ems is urgent. 2126 02:09:31,009 --> 02:09:32,983 the mega-hospital, we can't get 2127 02:09:32,983 --> 02:09:34,675 them to come to the table and answer our questions. 2128 02:09:34,675 --> 02:09:38,610 what is the status of our letter 2129 02:09:38,610 --> 02:09:45,386 on our request to meet with the mega-hospital committee because we need to really know when are we going to see shovels in the ground. 2130 02:09:45,386 --> 02:09:52,715 the other part or question I have is, do we talk to our mpps 2131 02:09:52,715 --> 02:09:57,418 and what is our plan of communication with the city of windsor and the mpps? 2132 02:09:57,418 --> 02:10:00,431 with the rise in call volumes 2133 02:10:00,431 --> 02:10:03,494 I don't want anyone to be blindsided on future requests for funding at the provincial 2134 02:10:03,494 --> 02:10:06,995 level and also the city of windsor has made it clear that 2135 02:10:06,995 --> 02:10:10,876 they want to come in at a 0% increase and I don't know how that is going to impact us. 2136 02:10:10,876 --> 02:10:14,655 I know that we just send them 2137 02:10:14,655 --> 02:10:15,470 a bill but we really need to have 2138 02:10:15,470 --> 02:10:18,857 all of these parties at the table when we are talking about ems because health care is so important. 2139 02:10:18,857 --> 02:10:24,164 my question is, what is the plan 2140 02:10:24,164 --> 02:10:25,315 to talk to the local mpps about 2141 02:10:25,315 --> 02:10:25,425 the rising calls? 2142 02:10:25,425 --> 02:10:38,166 >> for you, warden, we meet regularly with our mpps particularly around innovative 2143 02:10:38,166 --> 02:10:39,916 opportunities relatively cost 2144 02:10:39,916 --> 02:10:39,969 neutral to improve response 2145 02:10:39,916 --> 02:10:39,969 Times 2146 02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:39,969 neutral to improve response 2147 02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:39,969 times. 2148 02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:42,377 again in my budget presentation 2149 02:10:42,377 --> 02:10:46,092 , talking about getting innovative 2150 02:10:46,092 --> 02:10:47,519 and not throwing resources that 2151 02:10:47,519 --> 02:10:47,686 something that is not working 2152 02:10:47,686 --> 02:10:56,434 the best so they are well informed on what the rising call is, we have a delegation requesting and we are connected with them. 2153 02:10:56,434 --> 02:11:03,871 >> I would like to support more 2154 02:11:03,871 --> 02:11:06,107 training and I would like to support the community programs 2155 02:11:04,686 --> 02:11:06,107 Coordinator 2156 02:11:06,107 --> 02:11:06,107 training and I would like to support the community programs 2157 02:11:06,107 --> 02:11:09,173 Coordinator at the very least and if there was something else 2158 02:11:09,173 --> 02:11:12,836 that was high-priority in the 2159 02:11:12,836 --> 02:11:14,920 ems I would like our chief to bring it forward. 2160 02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:16,609 we have the bare-bones option in 2161 02:11:16,609 --> 02:11:18,414 front of us and then we can look 2162 02:11:18,414 --> 02:11:29,681 at the coordinator, extra training and if there is anything else that is urgent or if something isn't passed tonight, if something has to come to us they'd year to look at again I totally support that 2163 02:11:29,681 --> 02:11:29,681 . 2164 02:11:29,681 --> 02:11:38,597 since I have been on county counsel I feel we have truly made notable gains in the reduction of code red and black and I want to keep going in that 2165 02:11:38,597 --> 02:11:41,825 direction I do not want to let 2166 02:11:41,825 --> 02:11:42,803 our foot off the pedal. 2167 02:11:42,803 --> 02:11:52,106 if we went to the greater community and said we're going to have a 1% levy increase just for ems alone and they knew that that was directly going to help 2168 02:11:52,106 --> 02:11:55,166 code red and cold black and help 2169 02:11:55,166 --> 02:11:57,025 with staff retention for ems, 2170 02:11:57,025 --> 02:12:04,027 I  I think the community would support that so I think we need to figure out how we can further support our ems our chief and 2171 02:12:04,027 --> 02:12:04,737 not just at the bare-bones level 2172 02:12:04,737 --> 02:12:04,847  level. 2173 02:12:04,737 --> 02:12:04,847 Thank you 2174 02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:04,847  level. 2175 02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:04,847 thank you. 2176 02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:14,966 >> 3u, warden, if I can, we are coming up to collective bargaining in 2026 and we need to be mindful of that and I want 2177 02:12:14,966 --> 02:12:15,238 to put that out there. 2178 02:12:15,238 --> 02:12:20,924 thank you. >> anyone else? 2179 02:12:20,924 --> 02:12:26,006 councillor rogers. >> thank you, madam warden. 2180 02:12:26,006 --> 02:12:37,822 to echo a few things going. I have seen this progression the last year or two and I think this council has made significant investments in ems 2181 02:12:37,822 --> 02:12:37,822 . 2182 02:12:37,822 --> 02:12:46,249 I look at this budget alone and we have seven replacement vehicles two brand-new vehicles 2183 02:12:46,249 --> 02:12:46,249  vehicles. 2184 02:12:46,249 --> 02:12:47,995 increase in the staff experience 2185 02:12:47,995 --> 02:12:53,796  experience, code red code black go down, wait times go down, we 2186 02:12:53,796 --> 02:12:59,587 are making tremendous strides, and I can support the additional training 2187 02:12:59,587 --> 02:13:03,908 hours, happy to add that and happy to support that, I think 2188 02:13:03,908 --> 02:13:07,578 beyond that, I want to be mindful of the budget that we 2189 02:13:07,578 --> 02:13:10,196 have and the restrictions that we have because again at the end 2190 02:13:10,196 --> 02:13:17,417 of the day, we have made significant investments in our ems and we are making significant strides but the end 2191 02:13:17,417 --> 02:13:18,625 of the day a budget that was 2192 02:13:18,625 --> 02:13:22,998 proposed for us to be able to hit our strategic priorities and 2193 02:13:22,998 --> 02:13:26,551 be able to continue to hit our service levels and continue to move forward with our momentum, 2194 02:13:26,551 --> 02:13:31,963 I don't think any budget would be put forward for us to take 2195 02:13:31,963 --> 02:13:34,586 steps back and again I appreciate your comment over the collective bargaining because 2196 02:13:34,586 --> 02:13:36,231 again it's not so much about this year but about the stuff 2197 02:13:36,231 --> 02:13:39,462 in the future so I encourage this 2198 02:13:39,462 --> 02:13:40,659 council we have to be mindful, 2199 02:13:40,659 --> 02:13:44,270 it's not an open pit. We can't continue to fund what 2200 02:13:44,270 --> 02:13:47,386 we would love to, I would love to be able to pick at the local 2201 02:13:47,386 --> 02:13:53,681 level, one artist things is saying no to the fire department but there are times where you have to trust in your team and 2202 02:13:53,681 --> 02:13:54,108 the leadership. 2203 02:13:54,108 --> 02:13:57,777 what do you need for this year for us to carry the momentum and 2204 02:13:57,777 --> 02:14:00,401 I'm happy to support the additional training hours but 2205 02:14:00,401 --> 02:14:01,217 my vote will stop at that point. thank you. 2206 02:14:01,217 --> 02:14:04,502 >> thank you. 2207 02:14:04,502 --> 02:14:04,610 anyone else? 2208 02:14:04,610 --> 02:14:09,858 >> two questions for the chief 2209 02:14:09,858 --> 02:14:12,378 , the average age of our fleet is 2210 02:14:12,378 --> 02:14:12,491 now what? 2211 02:14:12,491 --> 02:14:24,080 >> we are on a 60 replacement cycles so it moves along every year We don't keep them longer than six years. 2212 02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:26,932 we bought some six years ago and are buying some this year so it's a blend. 2213 02:14:26,932 --> 02:14:32,498 >> and of course we anticipate 2214 02:14:32,498 --> 02:14:40,758 just looking at inflation and industrial costs the prices that we did pay before. 2215 02:14:40,758 --> 02:14:45,413 when you brought them forth earlier will most likely be increased as well. Is that something you are anticipating? 2216 02:14:45,413 --> 02:14:49,570 >> yes. Everything is seeing inflation 2217 02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:50,607 - inflation-related changes. 2218 02:14:50,607 --> 02:14:58,478 >> with the discussions we've had about dispatching. Do you see that moving forward? 2219 02:14:58,478 --> 02:15:06,078 and do you see any substantive changes that can be saved to your budget if the dispatching proposals that we've disgust and 2220 02:15:06,078 --> 02:15:09,198 some of the ideas you put forth in this chamber forward? 2221 02:15:09,198 --> 02:15:13,110 >> we are seeing some movement 2222 02:15:13,110 --> 02:15:13,986 on the provincial lens for dispatch. 2223 02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:13,986 Again we 2224 02:15:13,986 --> 02:15:13,986 on the provincial lens for dispatch. 2225 02:15:13,986 --> 02:15:22,520 Again we are getting into pds talking to the counterparts across the province it makes a big difference in terms of ambience availability we are not over prioritizing as much in 2226 02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,198 getting more of an even cadence 2227 02:15:25,198 --> 02:15:32,638 of dispatching I do see that helping, I am hearing signals that alternate 2228 02:15:32,638 --> 02:15:36,409 models of care within the medication centre are being looked at and in terms of those 2229 02:15:36,409 --> 02:15:41,880 operating and providing oversight to the communication 2230 02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:43,909 centre we continue to talk about that. 2231 02:15:43,909 --> 02:15:51,998 I am not 100% convinced that that will be anything palpable but I do see the ministry is listening and we are starting 2232 02:15:51,998 --> 02:15:53,637 to see some changes so if we can 2233 02:15:53,637 --> 02:15:57,249 get smarter and how we dispatch, we definitely can send a tahoe 2234 02:15:57,249 --> 02:15:58,122 instead of an ambulance with two paramedics. 2235 02:15:58,122 --> 02:16:03,530 alternate model care opportunities in all of the stuff the team behind me is looking at. 2236 02:16:03,530 --> 02:16:08,073 the master plan gave a high level of ceiling on what was needed. 2237 02:16:08,073 --> 02:16:09,768 I don't think we need all of that. I'll be honest. 2238 02:16:09,768 --> 02:16:17,375 I appreciate the comments about the bigger picture here. 2239 02:16:17,375 --> 02:16:18,518 we will continue pushing ahead 2240 02:16:18,518 --> 02:16:24,102 as a service and doing everything we can and being as responsible as we can. It does not mean that we needed 2241 02:16:24,102 --> 02:16:24,368 all. 2242 02:16:24,368 --> 02:16:26,127 I would rather have a little bit 2243 02:16:26,127 --> 02:16:27,379  bit, put it in and see how it goes and adjust again. 2244 02:16:27,379 --> 02:16:35,308 no significantly big changes. The issue we do have is I am losing space to put these vehicles. 2245 02:16:35,308 --> 02:16:37,165 two more are coming in and they 2246 02:16:37,165 --> 02:16:44,171 are supposed to go and I do not have the room to put those in there so we have to figure all 2247 02:16:44,171 --> 02:16:46,191 of that out and where these trucks will go, that is part of the bigger picture. 2248 02:16:46,191 --> 02:16:50,672 >> thank you, madam warden. >> thank you. 2249 02:16:50,672 --> 02:16:57,409 councillor prue. >> a question, it seems like there's a sufficient appetite 2250 02:16:57,409 --> 02:17:08,779 here to add a couple of things in here that are going to be expensive I did hear one comment about the hospital and how much we are funding which I think is excessive. 2251 02:17:08,779 --> 02:17:11,947 could it be possible that if any motions are made that they be 2252 02:17:11,947 --> 02:17:19,000 contingent on finding the dollars from other sources whether it be the hospital or something else? 2253 02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:24,692 I am reluctant to vote simply for it and to raise the levy. 2254 02:17:24,692 --> 02:17:32,237 I want to put that up front. If you can find some money somewhere else in the hospital 2255 02:17:32,237 --> 02:17:36,013 seems like a logical one to many many, a couple hundred 300, off 2256 02:17:36,013 --> 02:17:44,548 of that to fund the ems, I would certainly support it. 2257 02:17:44,548 --> 02:17:53,621 if you can't, I have to say that I would be reluctant to raise the rate above 2.65. 2258 02:17:53,621 --> 02:17:54,553 >> duly noted. 2259 02:17:54,553 --> 02:18:01,989 did you want to speak to that suggestion? 2260 02:18:01,989 --> 02:18:07,673 >> if I could, please. I agree with councillor prue. 2261 02:18:07,673 --> 02:18:11,998 if my colleagues would be willing to approve each of these items as we go through it and 2262 02:18:11,998 --> 02:18:14,189 save -- or receive and approve 2263 02:18:14,189 --> 02:18:16,049 at the end so we can go through. 2264 02:18:16,049 --> 02:18:19,381 there are 26 items on this list 2265 02:18:19,381 --> 02:18:24,359 and I think it would be very unfair to other departments if we started approving these items 2266 02:18:24,359 --> 02:18:26,218 now without going and hearing 2267 02:18:26,218 --> 02:18:27,250 the full presentation from everyone. 2268 02:18:27,250 --> 02:18:30,382 I think we can ask the questions now and if we can make a list 2269 02:18:30,382 --> 02:18:37,697 of the items that we want to discuss at the end that maybe we could find ways to adjust it, 2270 02:18:37,697 --> 02:18:37,749 whether it's coming from another 2271 02:18:37,697 --> 02:18:37,749 Thing 2272 02:18:37,749 --> 02:18:37,749 whether it's coming from another 2273 02:18:37,749 --> 02:18:46,780 Thing like the hospital but some of these items are one time funded capital items in some of these items are operating continuation and I would love 2274 02:18:46,780 --> 02:18:51,644 if we could have a discussion at the end that would see us discuss those 26 items instead 2275 02:18:51,644 --> 02:18:55,362 of trying to piecemeal it together through the budget session if my fellow councillors 2276 02:18:55,362 --> 02:18:56,950 would agree to that. 2277 02:18:56,950 --> 02:19:15,822 >> I just checked with the clerk 2278 02:19:15,822 --> 02:19:17,457  clerk, that can be a resolution 2279 02:19:17,457 --> 02:19:25,884 that is made and council will vote on that so let me go to councillor verbeke and then we 2280 02:19:25,884 --> 02:19:26,159 will open the floor. 2281 02:19:26,159 --> 02:19:33,480 I was looking because of the comments made, I was looking at bringing up individual ones that were mentioned such as the additional training hours as separate. 2282 02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:41,361 motions as well as the coordinator as a separate 2283 02:19:41,361 --> 02:19:43,871 motion and then the motion to 2284 02:19:43,871 --> 02:19:45,733 receive but if you want to add, 2285 02:19:45,733 --> 02:19:49,068 we will come to you but it has to be a decision of council. 2286 02:19:49,068 --> 02:19:55,305 if they want to receive and approve or just receive at this point in time. 2287 02:19:55,305 --> 02:19:57,226 are you good with that? 2288 02:19:57,226 --> 02:19:59,463 okay, thank you. 2289 02:19:59,463 --> 02:20:03,072 councillor verbeke. >> thank you. 2290 02:20:03,072 --> 02:20:03,126 great report. 2291 02:20:03,126 --> 02:20:10,505 I will go to melissa now. The business case, is that all 2292 02:20:10,505 --> 02:20:15,214 included in this 2.65 of the budget? 2293 02:20:15,214 --> 02:20:19,640 >> no. These are items that administratively we put on that 2294 02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:23,192 list and did not include them in the proposed budget but allowing council to bring it back in. 2295 02:20:23,192 --> 02:20:26,695 >> I see this as more of a needs 2296 02:20:26,695 --> 02:20:33,146 list than a want list so I think we should get them all if you've 2297 02:20:33,146 --> 02:20:42,390 had any dealings with ems, if the mechanic is gone, we can't fix it and I believe that all of these positions should be filled filled. 2298 02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:42,772 I don't care where you get the 2299 02:20:42,772 --> 02:20:46,331 money from but it has to be filled. 2300 02:20:46,331 --> 02:20:53,813 >> councillor gibb. >> one more clarifying question 2301 02:20:53,813 --> 02:20:55,521 , when we look at these numbers, 2302 02:20:55,521 --> 02:21:06,284 the estimated cost for the community program coordinate her at 121467 and the additional training hours, 19935, are those 2303 02:21:06,284 --> 02:21:12,744 numbers half of the cost or is that the full cost but the levy 2304 02:21:12,744 --> 02:21:17,172 will be charged back if I can use that term, by the city? 2305 02:21:17,172 --> 02:21:26,578 >> yes, the list does include the total cost of that asked, 2306 02:21:26,578 --> 02:21:27,284 however, in ems we always they 2307 02:21:27,284 --> 02:21:38,876 know their funding formula is a little difference over the first year it would be 50% of that cost for the coordinate her position it will be about 65,504 the training dollars it would about $100,000, levy dollars. 2308 02:21:38,876 --> 02:21:45,113 >> further to that, doesn't the provincial funding then come in 2309 02:21:45,113 --> 02:21:45,171 afterwards. 2310 02:21:45,171 --> 02:21:54,301 >> through you, warden, it would come in but not until 2027 so how we budget is to incorporate that in the first year so that we cover ourselves. 2311 02:21:54,301 --> 02:22:14,811 >> just a question, in terms of the positions, I know you gave a lot of thought to coordinating and explaining the key responsibilities but I'm wondering if there was any opportunity to look at sharing 2312 02:22:14,811 --> 02:22:34,663 , additional training hours, are you able to talk to chatham-kent and coordinate training and facilitate that that is mandatory or whatnot or through st. Clair college and partnering with them and having an individual and I don't know if that 2313 02:22:34,663 --> 02:22:35,644 is even possible but they 2314 02:22:35,644 --> 02:22:41,172 are a great partner with ems in terms of that education component but I too agree that 2315 02:22:41,172 --> 02:22:44,231 we should look at these positions, obviously they are 2316 02:22:44,231 --> 02:22:45,001 here for a reason and the need is there. 2317 02:22:45,001 --> 02:22:54,192 but looking at the budget overview in terms of ranked positions, I kind of agree with 2318 02:22:54,192 --> 02:22:59,772 councilllor meloche in terms of waiting until the end and coming 2319 02:22:59,772 --> 02:23:04,634 back and seeing what impact it has on the overall budget versus doing them now one by one so I 2320 02:23:04,634 --> 02:23:12,564 do like to keep an open mind on these positions but just a question if there is any ability if we only choose 2 and there 2321 02:23:12,564 --> 02:23:14,857 are five not chosen, are you able to somehow still be able 2322 02:23:14,857 --> 02:23:18,801 to offer -- the purpose is relevant 2323 02:23:18,801 --> 02:23:26,231 and I don't want us to not see it happen that is there any way that through partnerships you 2324 02:23:26,231 --> 02:23:29,952 could probably arrange some of those responsibilities in a different format? 2325 02:23:29,952 --> 02:23:37,942 >> through you, warden, the training hours, to be clear is 2326 02:23:37,942 --> 02:23:41,597 the wage is required to get to pay the employee to take the training. 2327 02:23:41,597 --> 02:23:44,937 the majority of our staff are front line paramedics and they 2328 02:23:44,937 --> 02:23:47,064 are on the road and it's difficult to pull them off the 2329 02:23:47,064 --> 02:23:48,547 road to do training obviously 2330 02:23:48,547 --> 02:23:56,256 based on their environment so they are doing it on their days off so to coordinate with systems partners, chatham-kent 2331 02:23:56,256 --> 02:24:04,300 , st. Clair, we have great relationships with all of them and sometimes we can save on the cost of getting someone to deliver content but having someone sit through that content is where the expense comes in. 2332 02:24:04,300 --> 02:24:11,194 the rest of the positions, it 2333 02:24:11,194 --> 02:24:18,300 would be difficult for the commander of operations, communications officer, all it is doing is continuing to stress the system that is already there 2334 02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:20,268 and not able to help support the 2335 02:24:20,268 --> 02:24:22,074 capacity of those positions. >> thank you. 2336 02:24:22,074 --> 02:24:26,666 >> anyone else? 2337 02:24:26,666 --> 02:24:26,666 okay. 2338 02:24:26,666 --> 02:24:36,022 we are going to figure out how to do this individually since there seems to be -- councillor deyong, comment? 2339 02:24:36,022 --> 02:24:42,032 >> I will throw my two cents in, I would like to make a motion that we receive and then discuss all of these things at the end 2340 02:24:42,032 --> 02:24:44,549 when we've had a chance to digest the rest of the budget. 2341 02:24:44,549 --> 02:24:47,994 >> comment first then? 2342 02:24:47,994 --> 02:24:48,535 a comment or no? 2343 02:24:48,535 --> 02:24:58,712 >> that is my comment. That I'm supportive of us receiving this for now. >> you are making the motion to receive? 2344 02:24:58,275 --> 02:24:58,712 >> you are making the motion to receive? 2345 02:24:58,712 --> 02:24:58,712 >> sure. 2346 02:24:58,712 --> 02:25:00,409 >> okay. 2347 02:25:00,409 --> 02:25:05,271 councillor deyong is making the 2348 02:25:05,271 --> 02:25:14,625 motion that the presentation for the proposed 2026 essex-windsor emergency service budget be received and further that the 2349 02:25:14,625 --> 02:25:15,394 2026 budget estimates for essex-windsor emergency medical services be received. 2350 02:25:15,394 --> 02:25:20,697 that is moved by councillor deyong. 2351 02:25:15,394 --> 02:25:20,697 Looking 2352 02:25:20,697 --> 02:25:20,697 that is moved by councillor deyong. 2353 02:25:20,697 --> 02:25:20,805 Looking for a seconder. 2354 02:25:20,805 --> 02:25:22,884 councilllor meloche. 2355 02:25:22,884 --> 02:25:33,874 we will wait for that to get on the board and then we will be voting electronically, please. 2356 02:25:33,874 --> 02:25:37,865 councillor gibb. 2357 02:25:37,865 --> 02:25:40,381 sorry, I did not open the floor 2358 02:25:40,381 --> 02:25:41,800 to questions. >> that is all right. 2359 02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:42,409 I will push my way onto the floor. 2360 02:25:42,409 --> 02:25:47,332 just so that I can understand 2361 02:25:47,332 --> 02:25:50,117 this correctly, we will receive and then when we get to the end 2362 02:25:50,117 --> 02:25:54,276 of the day at 9:30 tonight or hopefully earlier. 2363 02:25:54,276 --> 02:25:57,445 come on. A little levity. 2364 02:25:57,445 --> 02:26:01,553 then we will discuss the individual items, correct? 2365 02:26:01,553 --> 02:26:10,844 >> that is how I am understanding it so that is what I believe an imc knots from the mover and the seconder. 2366 02:26:10,844 --> 02:26:16,204 I had someone else's hand up. >> I will get there. 2367 02:26:16,204 --> 02:26:19,163 I thought there was still someone here who I had seen first. 2368 02:26:19,163 --> 02:26:22,603 councillor bailey, you are up. 2369 02:26:22,603 --> 02:26:24,625 >> thank you, warden, I think 2370 02:26:24,625 --> 02:26:28,233 that you had it right in the first place because we have the opportunity right now to receive 2371 02:26:28,233 --> 02:26:31,408 and approve what is before us 2372 02:26:31,408 --> 02:26:33,866 in the budget that has been requested and there is nothing stopping us later for making a 2373 02:26:33,866 --> 02:26:38,954 motion and adding in I would like to make a motion to add in 2374 02:26:38,954 --> 02:26:40,106 item number blah, blah, blah for 2375 02:26:40,106 --> 02:26:43,001 position whatever and for us to 2376 02:26:43,001 --> 02:26:50,332 prove that so I think to continue with the momentum of our budget I would prefer to do it the way that you stated in 2377 02:26:50,332 --> 02:26:53,776 that we have already moved through, we have approved our sections, we will come back to 2378 02:26:53,776 --> 02:27:04,384 the wish list at the end but recognizing that there are 26 positions on there, they represent 4% on the budget, certainly anybody could move those items forward should they 2379 02:27:04,384 --> 02:27:06,186 want to but in the meantime we 2380 02:27:06,186 --> 02:27:09,414 have a budget presented and vetted by administration that I 2381 02:27:09,414 --> 02:27:11,985 would really like to see get received, approved and we can 2382 02:27:11,985 --> 02:27:15,055 come back and make new motions for other wish list items as the day unfolds. 2383 02:27:15,055 --> 02:27:22,924 >> councillor deyong. >> thank you Looking for clarity. 2384 02:27:22,924 --> 02:27:26,039 I have no problems with what councillor bailey just said but 2385 02:27:26,039 --> 02:27:31,287 if we are approving the ems budget then we don't need a motion to reconsider to open up 2386 02:27:31,287 --> 02:27:32,559 the ems budget to add something 2387 02:27:32,559 --> 02:27:34,896 to the ems budget. I'm looking for clarity from administration, thank you. 2388 02:27:34,896 --> 02:27:43,218 >> madam clerk, I am looking to you. 2389 02:27:34,896 --> 02:27:43,218 >> that 2390 02:27:43,218 --> 02:27:43,218 >> madam clerk, I am looking to you. 2391 02:27:43,218 --> 02:27:46,984 >> that is correct. He would not need a motion to 2392 02:27:46,984 --> 02:27:47,479 add a supplementary item to the 2393 02:27:47,479 --> 02:27:51,034 already approved budget for a 2394 02:27:51,034 --> 02:27:51,087 particular department so if 2395 02:27:51,034 --> 02:27:51,087 Council 2396 02:27:51,087 --> 02:27:51,087 particular department so if 2397 02:27:51,087 --> 02:27:55,081 Council wishes to approve the 2398 02:27:55,081 --> 02:27:55,241 budget for ems as it's written 2399 02:27:55,241 --> 02:27:59,565 right now at this interval and 2400 02:27:59,565 --> 02:28:06,566 then revisit additional supplementary items for this department and/or other departments before the final budget approval is done later 2401 02:28:06,566 --> 02:28:06,833 today that is also fine. 2402 02:28:06,833 --> 02:28:12,856 >> a councillor deyong. >> I have no problem with that 2403 02:28:12,856 --> 02:28:12,856 . 2404 02:28:12,856 --> 02:28:20,948 I am fine to improve this and discuss this. >> you are changing your motion to receive and approve? 2405 02:28:20,948 --> 02:28:25,165 I am looking to the secondary. 2406 02:28:25,165 --> 02:28:26,795 okay, that changes the motion to be received and approved. 2407 02:28:26,795 --> 02:28:38,117 and we are looking to vote electronically. 2408 02:28:38,117 --> 02:28:57,149 and that is carried, thank you 2409 02:28:57,149 --> 02:28:59,117 . thank you, chief. 2410 02:28:59,117 --> 02:29:05,955 next up, we have budget for infrastructure and planning. 2411 02:29:05,955 --> 02:29:15,584 pause for one moment. We are debating lunch. 2412 02:29:15,584 --> 02:29:18,315 >> what a lovely debate. 2413 02:29:18,315 --> 02:29:37,016 lunch lost so we are going to 2414 02:29:37,016 --> 02:29:39,036 go on to infrastructure and planning services and for that 2415 02:29:39,036 --> 02:29:46,920 we have our director of infrastructure and planning services as well as rebecca, our manager planning services to present the 2026 budget. 2416 02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:48,555 over to you. 2417 02:29:48,555 --> 02:29:48,663 for their department. 2418 02:29:48,663 --> 02:30:06,168 >> thank you, warden and council 2419 02:30:06,168 --> 02:30:06,168  council. 2420 02:30:06,168 --> 02:30:09,008 too many laptops appear at the moment. 2421 02:30:09,008 --> 02:30:20,607 thank you. 2422 02:30:20,607 --> 02:30:30,911 the infrastructure and planning services department plays a vital role in shaping and supporting our communities as committed to maintaining and enhancing the county infrastructure and the built environment. 2423 02:30:30,911 --> 02:30:38,516 we do this by building reliable infrastructure developing and applying responsible planning 2424 02:30:38,516 --> 02:30:39,451 policy and effective asset management. 2425 02:30:39,451 --> 02:30:46,066 my team knows and understands 2426 02:30:46,066 --> 02:30:46,231 the goals and directions of the 2427 02:30:46,231 --> 02:30:59,518 county They understand the contributions they make as individuals and they know and understand how their efforts contribute to the overall success of our department, the  the county, our residence and 2428 02:30:59,518 --> 02:31:00,667 our businesses and I am very proud of each and every one of them. 2429 02:31:00,667 --> 02:31:06,082 it is not easy, my management 2430 02:31:06,082 --> 02:31:07,779 team faces challenges almost every day. 2431 02:31:07,779 --> 02:31:14,937 rising service-level expectations, development pressures escalating construction costs, funding gaps 2432 02:31:14,937 --> 02:31:27,898  gaps, complexities for the competition of our road allowances for things like safety access, active transportation utilities and the ever moving targets of falling from new or modified provincial legislation. 2433 02:31:27,898 --> 02:31:33,971 while we look forward to the future these systems have to 2434 02:31:33,971 --> 02:31:38,401 work today and these hard assets 2435 02:31:38,401 --> 02:31:40,147 are deteriorating around us every day. 2436 02:31:40,147 --> 02:31:47,755 but I have to say that we love it, we love what we do and we look forward to next year and 2437 02:31:47,755 --> 02:31:51,258 I am here to present the proposed ips budget for 2026. 2438 02:31:51,258 --> 02:32:00,006 while the total departmental budget presented is just over 2439 02:32:00,006 --> 02:32:00,060 $138 million, the following 2440 02:32:00,006 --> 02:32:00,060 Recoveries and 2441 02:32:00,060 --> 02:32:00,060 $138 million, the following 2442 02:32:00,060 --> 02:32:10,233 Recoveries and contributions from our reserves, than that departmental asked for 2026 is just over $54 million, approximately $1.8 million over 2443 02:32:10,233 --> 02:32:11,817 2025. 2444 02:32:11,817 --> 02:32:16,462 1.25 million of that is our recommendation to increment the 2445 02:32:16,462 --> 02:32:17,178 expansion program. 2446 02:32:17,178 --> 02:32:19,909 the base contribution this year 2447 02:32:19,909 --> 02:32:19,909 . 2448 02:32:19,909 --> 02:32:25,650 several other items remain off 2449 02:32:25,650 --> 02:32:28,766 this version of the budget, and 2450 02:32:28,766 --> 02:32:31,781 melissa spoke to these in appendix three of her treasurers 2451 02:32:31,781 --> 02:32:32,320 report nine happy to talk about 2452 02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:34,291 these further after my presentation. 2453 02:32:34,291 --> 02:32:42,337 things like traffic signals at the intersection of county road 2454 02:32:42,337 --> 02:32:51,628 20 and 23, road supervisor position, traffic signals on  on county road 20 and martin lane in la salle, generator study for the administration building. 2455 02:32:51,628 --> 02:33:02,178 the amenity study, some additional sidewalk around our building and a maintenance one position. 2456 02:33:02,178 --> 02:33:08,481 this slide breaks down the net department of proposed budget 2457 02:33:08,481 --> 02:33:18,209 by my major service groups. Construction and engineering maintenance operations facility operations cleaning services and fleet and facilities. 2458 02:33:18,209 --> 02:33:36,107 the net construction and engineering budget has an increase of just over $1.4 million and again the majority of that increment is the $1.25 million we are recommending toward the increase to the expansion program faced 2459 02:33:36,107 --> 02:33:38,742 budget or base contribution. 2460 02:33:38,742 --> 02:33:47,699 are construction engineering group looks after much of our core assets and active transportation facilities. 2461 02:33:47,699 --> 02:33:53,713 the state of good repair program and by the way thank you to council and the council 2462 02:33:52,085 --> 02:33:53,713 Preapproval 2463 02:33:53,713 --> 02:33:53,713 and by the way thank you to council and the council 2464 02:33:53,713 --> 02:34:01,958 Preapproval to the big creek bridge project they are currently out for tender and we 2465 02:34:01,958 --> 02:34:02,450 are expecting an early start in the new year. 2466 02:34:02,450 --> 02:34:17,598 in this group, we have our program and we are planning for the future, construction, traffic management and safety 2467 02:34:17,598 --> 02:34:17,980 of our road corridors. 2468 02:34:17,980 --> 02:34:21,980 and several projects are done 2469 02:34:21,980 --> 02:34:23,505 in this budget in cooperation with 2470 02:34:23,505 --> 02:34:24,819 our local municipal partners, 2471 02:34:24,819 --> 02:34:29,520 things like working on or connecting links, a shared ea's 2472 02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:30,397 and studies and leveraging our paving contracts. 2473 02:34:30,397 --> 02:34:33,401 all of this being mindful of accessibility. 2474 02:34:33,401 --> 02:34:44,088 of note, in 2026, we continue with our road rationalization 2475 02:34:44,088 --> 02:34:47,199 project designing construction 2476 02:34:47,199 --> 02:34:50,589 of the stormwater management solution for county road 19 and 2477 02:34:50,589 --> 02:34:51,242 the 22 intersection. 2478 02:34:51,242 --> 02:34:56,659 county road 42, 43, phase 4. 2479 02:34:56,659 --> 02:35:04,318 I already mentioned the culvert and the big creek bridge and we have a number of other bridging 2480 02:35:04,318 --> 02:35:07,490 projects that are either in the design or construction phase. 2481 02:35:07,490 --> 02:35:13,010 we have our paved shoulder program and that will continue 2482 02:35:13,010 --> 02:35:16,036 on county road three, eight, nine and 31. 2483 02:35:16,036 --> 02:35:25,128 and on this side we have put together some figures to answer 2 frequently answered questions 2484 02:35:25,128 --> 02:35:26,282 . What is the approximate cost to maintain a highway? 2485 02:35:26,282 --> 02:35:36,948 we are averaging just over $5700 per lane kilometre over ten years but this year in 2025, we 2486 02:35:36,948 --> 02:35:38,868 hit just over $7500 per lane kilometre. 2487 02:35:38,868 --> 02:35:51,211 and what's the approximate cost to rehabilitate or pave word do an operation on a highway? The average cost over ten years 2488 02:35:51,211 --> 02:35:57,996 is about $94,000 per lane kilometre but in 2025 and this speaks to the ever escalating cost of construction. 2489 02:35:57,996 --> 02:36:03,253 in 2025, we saw $170,000 per lane kilometre. 2490 02:36:03,253 --> 02:36:15,989 our maintenance operation group 2491 02:36:15,989 --> 02:36:17,519 was presenting a not budget for 2492 02:36:17,519 --> 02:36:35,570 2026 of just over $10 million. Approximately 550 is covering things like wage increases, increases to our management budget some additional dollars for asset management particularly in the drainage asset department. 2493 02:36:35,570 --> 02:36:41,091 our maintenance operations group 2494 02:36:41,091 --> 02:36:44,979 also known as roads provides maintenance to our existing road 2495 02:36:44,979 --> 02:36:47,541 network for summer maintenance, 2496 02:36:47,541 --> 02:37:03,682 winter control and traffic signal maintenance our facility operations group, a budget request in 2026 for just over 2497 02:37:03,682 --> 02:37:03,682 $860,000. 2498 02:37:03,682 --> 02:37:17,951 facility's operation as a team that manages the county of essex administration building and also provide some services to other facilities as needed. 2499 02:37:17,951 --> 02:37:19,374 this department manages several 2500 02:37:19,374 --> 02:37:23,859 of our annual contracts for us in addition to keeping this building and our grounds in good condition. 2501 02:37:23,859 --> 02:37:41,573 our planning services group has a budget and our planning team is led by our manager rebecca belanger and she is here to speak to the planning budget. 2502 02:37:41,573 --> 02:38:01,044 >> thank you, good morning, gordon As council is aware, my position with the support of 2 additional 2503 02:38:01,044 --> 02:38:07,454 planners conducts the work, acting as the delegated provincial planning authority for ensuring that all matters 2504 02:38:07,454 --> 02:38:17,291 are addressed and improving local plans and amendments as well as other planning applications such as plans of tradition as an example. 2505 02:38:17,291 --> 02:38:21,010 we presently have over 150 active planning applications throughout the local municipality's. 2506 02:38:21,010 --> 02:38:27,401 a large number of these applications are in the pre preconsultation stage of review 2507 02:38:27,401 --> 02:38:30,962 and county planning has than not taken the associated fee. 2508 02:38:30,962 --> 02:38:40,637 this will look as if it's a reduced revenue of planning applications this is not however reflective of the actual work in the department. 2509 02:38:40,637 --> 02:38:46,931 now that the county official plan has received final approval 2510 02:38:46,931 --> 02:38:50,099 by the province, planning administration will be advancing 2511 02:38:50,099 --> 02:38:52,180 several strategic planning studies in 2026. 2512 02:38:52,180 --> 02:38:55,843 the first of these and the purchased services section 2513 02:38:52,180 --> 02:38:55,843 Includes 2514 02:38:55,843 --> 02:38:55,843 the first of these and the purchased services section 2515 02:38:55,843 --> 02:39:06,511 Includes a specialty study, the intent of this work is to formally identify and map these high-priority agriculture areas 2516 02:39:06,511 --> 02:39:09,732 to ensure they are properly considered win planning applications come forward as well as new official plans. 2517 02:39:09,732 --> 02:39:17,822 they county strategic plan directs the advancement of a regional climate land strategy. 2518 02:39:17,822 --> 02:39:21,219 the rfp is currently out on bids and tenders and the expectation 2519 02:39:21,219 --> 02:39:24,064 that the consultant will be selected in december. 2520 02:39:24,064 --> 02:39:28,214 this project is planned to run 2521 02:39:28,214 --> 02:39:28,326 through and conclude in june of 2522 02:39:28,326 --> 02:39:31,553 next year with regular reporting to county counsel. 2523 02:39:31,553 --> 02:39:39,593 the planning budget also includes a carryover amount for the regional energy plan implementation project. 2524 02:39:39,593 --> 02:39:43,756 this budgeted amount is intended 2525 02:39:43,756 --> 02:39:49,983 to be used for this year to conduct a climate adaptation plan and in partnership with local municipalities that are interested. 2526 02:39:49,983 --> 02:39:55,559 the adaptation plan will create 2527 02:39:55,559 --> 02:40:03,818 an updated greenhouse gas emission inventory for the county as well as local municipalities enabling us to 2528 02:40:03,818 --> 02:40:03,871 begin monitoring our actions 2529 02:40:03,818 --> 02:40:03,871 That 2530 02:40:03,871 --> 02:40:03,871 begin monitoring our actions 2531 02:40:03,871 --> 02:40:19,573 That impact and reduce emissions as well as other components of the action plan that will include an assessment of climate related vulnerabilities resilient strategies and an updated clean energy target. 2532 02:40:19,573 --> 02:40:37,014 purchased services also include the annual contribution to the resilience project, in the amount of $50,000. This contribution from the county and other project partners enable the project to receive grant funding in the amount of $1 million. 2533 02:40:37,014 --> 02:40:38,761 this project is in its second year of the three-year work program. 2534 02:40:38,761 --> 02:40:42,705 regarding the natural heritage 2535 02:40:42,705 --> 02:40:46,913 system strategy listed on this 2536 02:40:46,913 --> 02:40:47,732 side, although this initiative 2537 02:40:46,913 --> 02:40:47,732 Was 2538 02:40:47,732 --> 02:40:47,732 side, although this initiative 2539 02:40:47,732 --> 02:41:04,523 Was originally planned to advance in 2026, through the review and prioritization of other required strategic planning studies we are looking forward to advancing this initiative instead in 2027 there for you will know that there is 2540 02:41:04,523 --> 02:41:04,739 no budget allocated for this initiative. 2541 02:41:04,739 --> 02:41:07,754 this concludes my comments, thank you. 2542 02:41:07,754 --> 02:41:10,701 >> thank you, rebecca. 2543 02:41:10,701 --> 02:41:22,790 moving on to our fleet and facilities budget this is where we track capital needs for nonlinear assets, things such 2544 02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:23,061 as equipment for our roads group, 2545 02:41:23,061 --> 02:41:27,876 trucks ploughs, loaders, equipment and building needs for 2546 02:41:27,876 --> 02:41:31,762 our facilities group and any major renovation projects. 2547 02:41:31,762 --> 02:41:39,542 in 2026, we presented a budget 2548 02:41:39,542 --> 02:41:47,576 to effectively replace aging equipment support the county's desired level of service, renew our facilities for example, there is a report on the consent 2549 02:41:47,576 --> 02:41:52,558 agenda that we have included $2.000000 towards the renovation 2550 02:41:52,558 --> 02:41:54,466 for council's consideration. 2551 02:41:54,466 --> 02:41:59,225 and lastly, to enhance we have 2552 02:41:59,225 --> 02:42:03,544 items in this budget to provide enhancements to security at our roads depots. 2553 02:42:03,544 --> 02:42:11,372 and this is just a slide that 2554 02:42:11,372 --> 02:42:12,907 shows some of the work that we 2555 02:42:12,907 --> 02:42:18,314 do, it gets messy sometimes but it also shows some of our successes and some of our responses to some of council 2556 02:42:18,314 --> 02:42:18,314 responses to some of council's 2557 02:42:18,314 --> 02:42:24,116 requests and with that, I will conclude and I am available to 2558 02:42:24,116 --> 02:42:29,308 answer any questions. >> thank you I was expecting a lot longer. 2559 02:42:29,308 --> 02:42:36,139 opening the floor to comments and questions from council, starting with you councillor bailey. 2560 02:42:33,847 --> 02:42:36,139 >> 2561 02:42:36,139 --> 02:42:36,139 starting with you councillor bailey. 2562 02:42:36,139 --> 02:42:43,524 >> thank you. Through you, to start up I wanted to our own horn here, we 2563 02:42:43,524 --> 02:42:44,947 have done amazing amazing work 2564 02:42:44,947 --> 02:42:53,316 when it comes to the paved shoulder program and cwats and everything we've been doing through this department and I know that many of those trails 2565 02:42:53,316 --> 02:43:00,699 , I ride and I noticed numbers of council have viewed them and I  I think sherry took a ride with 2566 02:43:00,699 --> 02:43:01,351 some of the groups earlier on 2567 02:43:01,351 --> 02:43:09,715 in the year too and we are so close close, we are 1.8 kilometres away from bridging the gap for 2568 02:43:09,715 --> 02:43:14,155 161 kilometres of the seaway, 2569 02:43:14,155 --> 02:43:14,209 100 which is pretty incredible 2570 02:43:14,209 --> 02:43:21,587 that we have done that as a region so talk about the regional powerhouse for all of us to have this system that is 2571 02:43:21,587 --> 02:43:23,068 moving through all of our communities so beautifully. 2572 02:43:23,068 --> 02:43:27,544 the 1.8% that is not done is in 2573 02:43:27,544 --> 02:43:38,765 lakeshore and I know that it's a little late here and there are probably resources and they understand that some of the things have been funded and somewhere funded and some are 2574 02:43:38,765 --> 02:43:40,735 not funded so I don't want this 2575 02:43:40,735 --> 02:43:41,216 to happen today but I do want to 2576 02:43:41,216 --> 02:43:43,955 preface that a notice of motion 2577 02:43:43,955 --> 02:44:01,125 will come forward at some point to try to identify the 1.8%. A couple of things in addition to that to note, we have an awesome opportunity to build in resources for signage along the seaway so that folks know where 2578 02:44:01,125 --> 02:44:02,656 to go in our communities where it is comfortable to ride. 2579 02:44:02,656 --> 02:44:11,134 I would like to see a signage program come forward as well as the removal of signs and areas 2580 02:44:11,134 --> 02:44:15,126 that don't make sense within our plant so they don't have paved 2581 02:44:15,126 --> 02:44:15,293 shoulders. 2582 02:44:15,293 --> 02:44:16,274 one of those examples is in my 2583 02:44:16,274 --> 02:44:20,544 community 12-foot ditches on 2584 02:44:20,544 --> 02:44:24,750 both sides of the road, gravel road, and to end and it's marked 2585 02:44:24,750 --> 02:44:29,787 as a cwats trail which tells a cyclist it's a good spot to go and it's absolutely not a good spot to go. 2586 02:44:29,787 --> 02:44:32,405 we will blow the tires on our bike unless we have a fat bike 2587 02:44:32,405 --> 02:44:34,544 and we will land in the ditch 2588 02:44:34,544 --> 02:44:48,597 so I know that I am late to the game for this budget both in lakeshore and here at the county but don't be surprised by a notice of motion that will work to try to bridge the last 1.8 kilometre stretch so that we as a region will have accomplished 2589 02:44:48,597 --> 02:44:51,714 161 kilometres of roadway and 2590 02:44:51,714 --> 02:44:53,406 if you want to see it, I am happy 2591 02:44:53,406 --> 02:44:55,049 to get us a bus and anyone who 2592 02:44:55,049 --> 02:44:56,249 wants to come along we can ride 2593 02:44:56,249 --> 02:44:59,422 it and if you are not feeling like riding a bike this spring you also have all winter to get 2594 02:44:59,422 --> 02:45:04,187 ready and get fit and I will take the ride with you for the 2595 02:45:04,187 --> 02:45:07,191 full 160 for anyone who wants to go. 2596 02:45:07,191 --> 02:45:07,399 that is my two cents. 2597 02:45:07,399 --> 02:45:09,049 >> thank you. 2598 02:45:09,049 --> 02:45:13,092 councillor bondy. >> thank you, warden mcdonald. 2599 02:45:13,092 --> 02:45:20,700 further to what councillor bailey is saying I am in full 2600 02:45:20,700 --> 02:45:25,289 agreement with what she is looking to do and I think it is long overdue. 2601 02:45:25,289 --> 02:45:27,756 this is something that is going 2602 02:45:27,756 --> 02:45:29,447 to be a cycling corridor from 2603 02:45:29,447 --> 02:45:29,883 one end of our county to another 2604 02:45:29,883 --> 02:45:41,534 and with the new gordie howe bridge opening up allowing cyclist this is really big and it's an opportunity for all of us so I hope you do bring it forward because I would like to support it. 2605 02:45:41,534 --> 02:45:47,107 I am wondering if do we even have a price for that little segment? 2606 02:45:46,015 --> 02:45:47,107 That is my 2607 02:45:47,107 --> 02:45:47,107 have a price for that little segment? 2608 02:45:47,107 --> 02:45:49,628 That is my first question and then I have several more questions. 2609 02:45:49,628 --> 02:45:57,118 >> I do not have a price for you you. 2610 02:45:57,118 --> 02:46:01,935 I can try to get one worked out for you, a little later in the day but at the moment I don't 2611 02:46:01,935 --> 02:46:01,987 have that. 2612 02:46:01,987 --> 02:46:11,398 >> thank you. Maybe we can add that to appendix four that we just created. 2613 02:46:11,398 --> 02:46:16,106 one of the other questions that I have is can you elaborate a little bit more on the drainage 2614 02:46:16,106 --> 02:46:19,048 works that we are talking about 2615 02:46:19,048 --> 02:46:20,636 in the budget. 2616 02:46:20,636 --> 02:46:26,547 earlier miss ryan talked about 2617 02:46:26,547 --> 02:46:26,765 how we are doing training works 2618 02:46:26,765 --> 02:46:37,747 and if you can't elaborate on that tonight I will take it by email and in the future I just know that with the recent flooding in notches my minister polity but other municipalities 2619 02:46:37,747 --> 02:46:42,729 the people have a higher expectation of us when it comes 2620 02:46:42,729 --> 02:46:43,327 to drainage. 2621 02:46:42,729 --> 02:46:43,327 They want 2622 02:46:43,327 --> 02:46:43,327 to drainage. 2623 02:46:43,327 --> 02:46:45,465 They want regular maintenance 2624 02:46:45,465 --> 02:46:47,106 and I just want to make sure there is enough budget dollars 2625 02:46:47,106 --> 02:46:47,106 . 2626 02:46:47,106 --> 02:46:53,130 the other question that I also believe we need a full review 2627 02:46:53,130 --> 02:46:56,017 of cwats and the signage. I could not agree more. 2628 02:46:56,017 --> 02:47:08,107 I know there is a cwats committee but they actually should talk to the easy wrote folks who ride and cycle because 2629 02:47:08,107 --> 02:47:12,967 there is another section and I am sorry, I have to raise this 2630 02:47:12,967 --> 02:47:13,465 again. 2631 02:47:13,465 --> 02:47:15,876 one can we look at this little 2632 02:47:15,876 --> 02:47:21,555 section, just like this section in councillor bailey's area, a 2633 02:47:21,555 --> 02:47:28,557 section in the cwats plan that can next and another section that is not done, I know it is 2634 02:47:28,557 --> 02:47:31,294 a complicated section and has a hydro poll and it's not cheap 2635 02:47:31,294 --> 02:47:34,795 but we have this great waterfront trail that we mark 2636 02:47:34,795 --> 02:47:39,495 as a cycling corridor and it goes from one end to the other but 2637 02:47:39,495 --> 02:47:48,188 in a spot with no paved trail, the road is narrow and the speed limit is 80 so I don't know why we have that marked as? 2638 02:47:48,188 --> 02:47:53,500 the great waterfront trail when it's a raceway. 2639 02:47:53,500 --> 02:47:56,280 do we have a cost on that and when we can get that one done, 2640 02:47:56,280 --> 02:48:01,538 please. 2641 02:47:56,280 --> 02:48:01,538 >> 2642 02:48:01,538 --> 02:48:01,538 please. 2643 02:48:01,538 --> 02:48:04,520 >> thank you, through you, warden, to repeat back to you, 2644 02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:10,748 we are looking at getting some costs for that segment of -- I 2645 02:48:10,748 --> 02:48:16,386 forget the name of it. The essex county way and I am 2646 02:48:16,386 --> 02:48:22,736 just looking up some costs to speak to the additional stormwater maintenance projects 2647 02:48:22,736 --> 02:48:28,746 that we would like to fund this year and comment on county road 2648 02:48:28,746 --> 02:48:45,537 50 in amherstburg. This year, we have added additional dollars into the stormwater maintenance along our county road so that we can improve catch basins, we can tackle some of the aging smaller 2649 02:48:45,537 --> 02:48:46,136 culverts and road crossings that we have. 2650 02:48:46,136 --> 02:48:55,924 we are anticipating continued impacts of climate change. We have fallen behind in years past on some of that maintenance 2651 02:48:55,924 --> 02:49:00,191 and we would like to see extra dollars in that item so we can get ahead of that. 2652 02:49:00,191 --> 02:49:04,021 to really catch up and then start to get ahead of it. 2653 02:49:04,021 --> 02:49:08,718 with respect to county road 50, 2654 02:49:08,718 --> 02:49:11,517 we do have dollars in this year 2655 02:49:11,517 --> 02:49:11,901  year's budget to continue work 2656 02:49:11,901 --> 02:49:20,266 on design for a segment of our cwats trail along county road 2657 02:49:20,266 --> 02:49:20,318 50 50. 2658 02:49:20,266 --> 02:49:20,318 It is really the 2659 02:49:20,318 --> 02:49:20,318 50 50. 2660 02:49:20,318 --> 02:49:21,137 It is really the extreme west 2661 02:49:21,137 --> 02:49:21,137 end. 2662 02:49:21,137 --> 02:49:29,996 that segment is not one of the low hanging fruits that we've tackled in the last ten years 2663 02:49:29,996 --> 02:49:31,528 or so. 2664 02:49:29,996 --> 02:49:31,528 This 2665 02:49:31,528 --> 02:49:31,528 or so. 2666 02:49:31,528 --> 02:49:33,008 This one will require a little 2667 02:49:33,008 --> 02:49:33,549 extra work. 2668 02:49:33,549 --> 02:49:35,137 there is money in this year's 2669 02:49:35,137 --> 02:49:41,153 budget to look at what we would need to do for utility relocation perhaps getting into some municipal drain relocation 2670 02:49:41,153 --> 02:49:44,926 so that we can prepare the way to then go ahead and pave that 2671 02:49:44,926 --> 02:49:49,188 shoulder but the actual construction of the shoulder is 2672 02:49:49,188 --> 02:49:50,238 not in this year's budget but 2673 02:49:50,238 --> 02:49:53,076 again there is some imaginary utility money there. 2674 02:49:53,076 --> 02:50:03,520 I think I have covered all of the items there. >> thank you. I support everything that you are presenting. 2675 02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:06,748 I think you do a great job with 2676 02:50:06,748 --> 02:50:07,792 our roads. 2677 02:50:07,792 --> 02:50:12,328 I am so happy in the town of essex, we partner with you for many roads because your quality is top-notch. I'm thrilled with that. 2678 02:50:12,328 --> 02:50:18,401 your service on snowplowing and when it's raining and the roads 2679 02:50:18,401 --> 02:50:24,028 need to be closed your cruise are really receptive so thank you I look forward to supporting this and then talking about all of the other things. 2680 02:50:24,028 --> 02:50:27,470 thank you. >> thank you. 2681 02:50:27,470 --> 02:50:32,668 councillor gibb. >> thank you. Thank you to councillor bondy 2682 02:50:32,668 --> 02:50:37,699 for sew eloquently phrasing the issue of county road 50. 2683 02:50:37,699 --> 02:50:41,638 I know I have been conversing 2684 02:50:41,638 --> 02:50:42,622 with you, allen, for a long time 2685 02:50:42,622 --> 02:50:42,622  time. 2686 02:50:42,622 --> 02:51:01,938 it is a long stretch where we invite people to bike to our wineries, to bike through amherstburg and go to essex and all the way to leamington. 2687 02:51:01,938 --> 02:51:03,520 there is one specific spot that 2688 02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:05,161 if they don't know it's coming 2689 02:51:05,161 --> 02:51:07,954 , they are caught unaware that they have to merge into 80 kilometre per hour traffic. 2690 02:51:07,954 --> 02:51:11,339 I'm glad to hear that there is 2691 02:51:11,339 --> 02:51:14,511 money for the project. 2692 02:51:14,511 --> 02:51:21,073 I do realize that it is exceedingly difficult, that small section but that is amherstburg for you. 2693 02:51:21,073 --> 02:51:24,093 >> there is a positive note. 2694 02:51:24,093 --> 02:51:24,093 [laughter] 2695 02:51:24,093 --> 02:51:28,453 councilllor meloche. >> thank you. 2696 02:51:28,453 --> 02:51:35,571 on the cwats program, I am looking at the capital expenses as well as reserves. 2697 02:51:35,571 --> 02:51:37,094 we have increased the program 2698 02:51:37,094 --> 02:51:37,471 this year, have we not already 2699 02:51:37,471 --> 02:51:37,528 significantly? 2700 02:51:37,528 --> 02:51:43,877 I am looking at page 101. 2701 02:51:43,877 --> 02:51:55,138 and I am trying to understand 2702 02:51:55,138 --> 02:51:59,463 is that increase is to continue on to these pieces that have been mentioned or if this extra fund 2703 02:51:59,463 --> 02:52:03,668 is to start addressing really 2704 02:52:03,668 --> 02:52:05,529 what will happen to these pieces 2705 02:52:05,529 --> 02:52:06,948 of infrastructure as they come for repair. 2706 02:52:06,948 --> 02:52:12,917 I know we don't have a real policy in place as far as replacing that asset so I'm wondering what these funds are for? 2707 02:52:12,917 --> 02:52:21,499 >> three you, warden, I am on 2708 02:52:21,499 --> 02:52:23,906 page 101 and I believe if you're talking about the cwats program 2709 02:52:23,906 --> 02:52:29,923 , that is appendix three. 2710 02:52:29,923 --> 02:52:35,989 I would divert you to page 161 if you are looking at cwats specifically because that program itself is not increased 2711 02:52:35,989 --> 02:52:35,989 . 2712 02:52:35,989 --> 02:52:43,322 page 101 is the entire construction and engineering where cwats specifically is 2713 02:52:39,382 --> 02:52:43,322 Appendix 2714 02:52:43,322 --> 02:52:43,322 construction and engineering where cwats specifically is 2715 02:52:43,322 --> 02:52:43,379 Appendix d. 2716 02:52:43,379 --> 02:52:45,831 m a total levy requirement has 2717 02:52:45,831 --> 02:52:47,252 not increased in there. 2718 02:52:47,252 --> 02:52:54,143 , could you help me understand 2719 02:52:54,143 --> 02:52:55,463 on page 101 at what I am looking at. 2720 02:52:55,463 --> 02:53:10,174 it says the capital expense for cwats and then the reserves for the cwats program. It went to showing I believe 496,200. 2721 02:53:10,174 --> 02:53:14,384 is that an increase to the reserves Without going to 161 because I 2722 02:53:14,384 --> 02:53:17,059 definitely -- 2723 02:53:17,059 --> 02:53:20,501 >> we are looking at that but it 2724 02:53:20,501 --> 02:53:21,325 could be carryover projects and 2725 02:53:21,325 --> 02:53:22,801 that might be why there is the difference. 2726 02:53:22,801 --> 02:53:23,350 we will confirm that with the numbers. 2727 02:53:23,350 --> 02:53:28,707 >> no problem. 2728 02:53:28,707 --> 02:53:31,499 I can get that after. 2729 02:53:31,499 --> 02:53:32,372 further, obviously 2 items on 2730 02:53:32,372 --> 02:53:37,352 the extra list that are significant to me items ten and 2731 02:53:37,352 --> 02:53:51,950 14 and I am hoping members of council will support those as they've been highlighted for 2  2 intersections that are in need of improvements and so my question would be to you, I know and here they say levy funded 2732 02:53:51,950 --> 02:53:56,053 but since they are one time, could they not be tax stabilization funded for those 2733 02:53:56,053 --> 02:53:56,162 2 projects? 2734 02:53:56,162 --> 02:54:04,309 >> sorry, I missed the first part, appendix three? 2735 02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:14,751 >> when we speak with alan about the plan for these types of safety designs and things like 2736 02:54:14,751 --> 02:54:21,919 that but we have really discovered is it's not one time items it might be a one-time item this year but the program 2737 02:54:21,919 --> 02:54:25,970 itself, when I spoke to ellinas 2738 02:54:25,970 --> 02:54:33,079 seems to be about ten years worth of projects that could really happen, they are really digging into not so as of right 2739 02:54:33,079 --> 02:54:36,691 now, we do not have a reserve 2740 02:54:36,691 --> 02:54:40,076 specifically for these types of projects because it something 2741 02:54:40,076 --> 02:54:40,128 new we've undertaken. 2742 02:54:40,128 --> 02:54:42,539 that is why in that listing we 2743 02:54:42,539 --> 02:54:46,582 have put it as levy funded so that in the future, if there is 2744 02:54:46,582 --> 02:54:49,536 more of those which I think there is in the horizon with the 2745 02:54:49,536 --> 02:54:55,170 plan we have levy dollars to do those same things and I wanted to know with that as well that 2746 02:54:55,170 --> 02:54:57,904 is just for traffic lights and 2747 02:54:57,904 --> 02:55:01,461 things like that were as sometimes when they go to the design phase it's actually a roundabout they are suggesting 2748 02:55:01,461 --> 02:55:18,142 which is 2 million to 5 million depending on how big it is so really we are trying to say let's use levy dollars to build up that program because we see it as a long-term program. >> I understand and further that 2749 02:55:18,142 --> 02:55:29,736 we are going to crank this program we have started talking about this program but we don't have the dollars funded for and are planning on it this year so those two items could however, be tax stabilization for this 2750 02:55:29,736 --> 02:55:31,317 year to get them off the books 2751 02:55:31,317 --> 02:55:32,522 and as we develop this program 2752 02:55:32,522 --> 02:55:34,719 we will look at the next intersections on the list, is not a possibility? 2753 02:55:34,719 --> 02:55:38,268 >> yes. 2754 02:55:38,268 --> 02:55:42,090 using reserves is always a possibility but for long-term planning it's better to use levy 2755 02:55:42,090 --> 02:55:44,002 dollars but it is a possibility 2756 02:55:44,002 --> 02:55:44,994 . >> thank you. 2757 02:55:44,994 --> 02:55:51,832 the final question was item number 18 on the appendix three which is the county admin building generator study. 2758 02:55:51,832 --> 02:56:08,283 and I realize this is just a study so there is obviously still the cost of the generator replacement but if I am reading this correctly it is saying that if we don't move forward with this, we may not have a reliable energy backup power for 2759 02:56:08,283 --> 02:56:08,392 our emergency centre. 2760 02:56:08,392 --> 02:56:11,951 that is a concerning thing to 2761 02:56:11,951 --> 02:56:14,963 think about that our emergency 2762 02:56:14,963 --> 02:56:16,661 centre may not have the power 2763 02:56:16,661 --> 02:56:25,793 needed so this study I'm assuming will identify where we would move with that and still be years away before we would even get to replace his, am I correct on that? 2764 02:56:25,793 --> 02:56:31,640 >> three you, warden, what I was 2765 02:56:31,640 --> 02:56:33,500 going to say to the generator 2766 02:56:33,500 --> 02:56:34,595 study is that we would like to 2767 02:56:34,595 --> 02:56:38,043 determine our best course of action regarding our administration buildings 2768 02:56:36,281 --> 02:56:38,043 Emergency 2769 02:56:38,043 --> 02:56:38,043 action regarding our administration buildings 2770 02:56:38,043 --> 02:56:38,096 Emergency backup. 2771 02:56:38,096 --> 02:56:49,190 but we have to be mindful of our commitment to the ieso, this generator feeds back into our grid so we are being mindful of that. 2772 02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:55,975 we have experience with issues 2773 02:56:55,975 --> 02:56:58,052 with the existing generator so planning for the future, it is a 2774 02:56:58,052 --> 02:56:59,531 diesel generator. 2775 02:56:59,531 --> 02:57:04,234 it is much bigger than we actually need for the building 2776 02:57:04,234 --> 02:57:05,383 so we want to consider things like that. 2777 02:57:05,383 --> 02:57:14,684 we want to consider that it's located now on the east side of the building and very close to 2778 02:57:14,684 --> 02:57:21,789 our air intake so we do experience some complaints when they get fired up and the diesel 2779 02:57:21,789 --> 02:57:25,614 exhaust gets in the building so it is a combination of planning 2780 02:57:25,614 --> 02:57:28,133 for the future, picking the right fuel 2781 02:57:28,133 --> 02:57:31,414 source, putting it in the right location and making 2782 02:57:31,414 --> 02:57:36,611 sure we do have proper backup for our emergency operations centre 2783 02:57:36,611 --> 02:57:39,613 , a combination of things but we do need to plan and get 2784 02:57:39,613 --> 02:57:45,086 ahead of this, early estimates for a generator like this are in 2785 02:57:45,086 --> 02:57:48,804 the million-dollar range so we want to get that information in 2786 02:57:48,804 --> 02:57:50,004 hand so that we can start planning for the future. 2787 02:57:50,004 --> 02:57:52,301 >> thank you. 2788 02:57:52,301 --> 02:57:56,841 hopefully we are all writing down these numbers in appendix 2789 02:57:56,841 --> 02:57:57,225 three because there are several 2790 02:57:57,225 --> 02:58:04,443 things we've heard that are items needed now and not looking at another year from now before we start moving forward with them thank you. 2791 02:58:04,443 --> 02:58:07,285 >> thank you. 2792 02:58:07,285 --> 02:58:17,571 councillor akpata. >> we had a brief discussion about this looking at how this 2793 02:58:17,571 --> 02:58:20,908 department takes care of our cwats trails and things of that nature and I had the privilege 2794 02:58:20,908 --> 02:58:22,933 and I realize we don't know what 2795 02:58:22,933 --> 02:58:26,098 will be happening in the future because of the changes that are coming. 2796 02:58:26,098 --> 02:58:28,504 each of our minutes of polities 2797 02:58:28,504 --> 02:58:31,735 here have contributed to the infrastructure the assets or 2798 02:58:31,735 --> 02:58:31,893 whatever term you want to use in 2799 02:58:31,893 --> 02:58:33,157 the trail network. 2800 02:58:33,157 --> 02:58:40,702 from your perspective, looking to the future as alan just said, 2801 02:58:40,702 --> 02:58:47,435 if the ontario government continues with what they are doing and we are eventually folded into the lake erie regional conservation authority 2802 02:58:47,435 --> 02:59:04,443 , I am looking to understand better what might be coming in the future for the municipalities and contributing to the assets to keep hold of what we have so that we can still control these jams that are in essex county. 2803 02:59:04,443 --> 02:59:07,773 just a comment because I would like to think to what might happen to this budget next year 2804 02:59:07,773 --> 02:59:24,184 , thank you >> three you -- through you, the devil is in the details of this amalgamation move, I was contacted by the west ontario wardens caucus to weigh in from 2805 02:59:24,184 --> 02:59:27,353 the county's perspective on assets owned by conservation authorities. 2806 02:59:27,353 --> 02:59:33,422 there may be a lack of full awareness at the provincial level of the amount of assets 2807 02:59:33,422 --> 02:59:33,475 that varies conservation 2808 02:59:33,422 --> 02:59:33,475 Authorities 2809 02:59:33,475 --> 02:59:33,475 that varies conservation 2810 02:59:33,475 --> 02:59:49,884 Authorities own and in essex  essex county the owner of three greenway systems tied directly into our complement of the cwats trail that the county and it has 2811 02:59:49,884 --> 02:59:53,765 been a gem of our region so we certainly have a concern around 2812 02:59:53,765 --> 02:59:55,952 the ownership of those assets 2813 02:59:55,952 --> 03:00:00,444 going forward under a new governance model that may wrap us up into a larger geography. 2814 03:00:00,444 --> 03:00:09,955 beyond the greenway assets, there is also heritage and cultural assets at the conservation authority owns and manages as an example, john. 2815 03:00:09,955 --> 03:00:18,651 these are things that I have highlighted to advocate on our behalf to ask some specific questions of the province of what is their vision for these 2816 03:00:18,705 --> 03:00:18,705 assets. 2817 03:00:18,705 --> 03:00:25,646 the concern that we have is that the province may bucket some of these assets into nonmandatory 2818 03:00:25,646 --> 03:00:36,643 conservation authority jurisdiction and that then will need to be a conversation around the appetite for a municipality municipality's to either take 2819 03:00:36,643 --> 03:00:36,805 these assets on and continue to 2820 03:00:36,805 --> 03:00:39,493 manage and own them or what their future life might look like. 2821 03:00:39,493 --> 03:00:43,864 as those conversations progress, 2822 03:00:43,864 --> 03:00:44,682 please know that the county is 2823 03:00:44,682 --> 03:00:50,974 forwarding information in collaboration I have been in contacti with 2824 03:00:50,974 --> 03:00:52,324 tim, the ceo, tohave been in contact 2825 03:00:52,324 --> 03:00:53,742 with tim explain burning that request for information from the the ceo 2826 03:00:53,742 --> 03:00:55,017 to explain that county. 2827 03:00:55,017 --> 03:00:55,709 request for information from the county 2828 03:00:55,709 --> 03:00:58,083 countyand. More information to 2829 03:00:58,083 --> 03:00:59,143 and more information come but 2830 03:00:59,143 --> 03:01:00,308 to we come do but we 2831 03:01:00,308 --> 03:01:00,976 wealso have a concern around the ownership question of those 2832 03:01:00,976 --> 03:01:02,454 also have concern around the ownership question of those assets assets. 2833 03:01:02,454 --> 03:01:04,643 .as we have more information, 2834 03:01:04,643 --> 03:01:04,643 we 2835 03:01:04,643 --> 03:01:06,541 as we have more information will make we sure we have will make sure we have 2836 03:01:06,541 --> 03:01:10,110 will make sure we havean updated updated reports to council as report to county counsel as it relates it to relates the 2837 03:01:10,110 --> 03:01:10,582 operation of infrastructure, planning services and to the operation of 2838 03:01:10,386 --> 03:01:10,582 Infrastructure 2839 03:01:10,582 --> 03:01:10,582 services and to the operation of 2840 03:01:10,582 --> 03:01:14,435 Infrastructure planning services and perhaps perhaps that amalgamation or roll-up of those 2841 03:01:14,435 --> 03:01:15,754 assets that amalgamation a. 2842 03:01:15,754 --> 03:01:17,164 rollup of assets in 2843 03:01:17,164 --> 03:01:20,061 the county operations are by extension I 2844 03:01:20,061 --> 03:01:20,119 think there's conversation and 2845 03:01:20,061 --> 03:01:20,119 Opportunity 2846 03:01:20,119 --> 03:01:20,119 think there's conversation and 2847 03:01:20,119 --> 03:01:24,333 Opportunity for locals to see 2848 03:01:24,333 --> 03:01:25,284 whether they want a role to play in those assets as well. 2849 03:01:25,284 --> 03:01:33,865 greenway evolution they been funded by a number of sources whether through donations to the 2850 03:01:33,865 --> 03:01:52,201 foundation local, municipal and revenue from irca what you find -- taxpayers of the region invested significantly in these assets and we want to make sure we preserve them. >> thank you madame morden. 2851 03:01:52,201 --> 03:01:53,937 I wanted to have the discussion 2852 03:01:53,937 --> 03:01:57,281 because this team touched on a lot of our recreational assets 2853 03:01:57,281 --> 03:01:57,400 and key components. 2854 03:01:57,400 --> 03:02:03,649 I think now is the time for us to start to think as to what may happen. 2855 03:02:03,649 --> 03:02:11,369 a plan that's positive for essex county but I'm not going to hold my breath. 2856 03:02:11,369 --> 03:02:16,356 thank you madam morden. >> councillor deyong >> thank you. 2857 03:02:16,356 --> 03:02:18,659 I have a couple of things. 2858 03:02:18,659 --> 03:02:21,236 I want to start with page 107 and I think it will be an easy 2859 03:02:21,236 --> 03:02:28,355 answer but there's a list of capital expenditures and several 2860 03:02:28,355 --> 03:02:30,922 of the items were budgeted in 2861 03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:30,922 2025. 2862 03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:30,922 They 2863 03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:30,922 2025. 2864 03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:35,363 They weren't projected to be spent in 2025 and there budgeted 2865 03:02:35,363 --> 03:02:35,642 again in 2026. 2866 03:02:35,642 --> 03:02:41,786 so you just -- didn't do in 2025 what we thought we were doing the capital expenditures. 2867 03:02:41,786 --> 03:02:48,191 I'm looking at specifically I think there's pickup trucks, three of those. 2868 03:02:48,191 --> 03:02:59,919 there's mower and a sweeper truck it's a little bit different but there's several items we budgeted for in 2025 and didn't spend it. 2869 03:02:59,919 --> 03:03:03,695 it's in 2026 and because I don't 2870 03:03:03,695 --> 03:03:07,665 see the reserve or levy or whatever are these items carrying over or are they reflecting her levy this year? 2871 03:03:07,665 --> 03:03:13,140 >> through you a lot of these 2872 03:03:13,140 --> 03:03:17,921 we are trying to order them when we can but they're not coming in the years of the dollars are not being spent. 2873 03:03:17,921 --> 03:03:21,743 it doesn't mean we don't need them just you will see the dollars being spent in the following year. 2874 03:03:21,743 --> 03:03:31,170 and I don't know there's any particular item you are looking at, but some are reserves funded on summer levy funded. 2875 03:03:31,170 --> 03:03:32,908 it's a mix for the whole program 2876 03:03:32,908 --> 03:03:34,113  program. 2877 03:03:32,908 --> 03:03:34,113 >> I'm looking 2878 03:03:34,113 --> 03:03:34,113  program. 2879 03:03:34,113 --> 03:03:36,299 >> I'm looking at the four specifically I mentioned because 2880 03:03:36,299 --> 03:03:38,293 he put them on the 2025 budget 2881 03:03:38,293 --> 03:03:42,824 . I'm hoping those at least are all reserve funded then. 2882 03:03:42,824 --> 03:03:46,023 if you want, I can give you the 2883 03:03:46,023 --> 03:03:51,473 specific lines 3805. 2884 03:03:51,473 --> 03:03:54,950 they are all 3805, that doesn't 2885 03:03:54,950 --> 03:03:55,315 help [laughter] 2886 03:03:55,315 --> 03:04:06,643 although 3805 that have zero in projected are numbers 25 and 26 there's at least -- some would be levy funded. 2887 03:04:06,643 --> 03:04:11,888 if we don't spend it we put it to reserves and 2025. 2888 03:04:11,888 --> 03:04:20,581 >> I expect it was in the levy 2889 03:04:20,581 --> 03:04:22,167 and 22 any five. 2890 03:04:22,167 --> 03:04:27,750 the fact that it was in the line 2891 03:04:27,750 --> 03:04:31,362  line, I'm wondering are those 2892 03:04:31,362 --> 03:04:31,480 being full -- pulled from the reserve? 2893 03:04:31,480 --> 03:04:45,319 >> they are. >> the one I think is -- I'm curious we budgeted 825 and spent 720 of that and were looking at 400 more. 2894 03:04:45,319 --> 03:04:46,457 I'm trying to understand those 2895 03:04:46,457 --> 03:04:46,575 numbers. 2896 03:04:46,575 --> 03:04:55,669 I think 800 was two and it looks like we bought two and now we're looking for another one. 2897 03:04:55,669 --> 03:04:57,370 I'm seeing some nodding in the 2898 03:04:57,370 --> 03:04:57,428 audience. 2899 03:04:57,428 --> 03:05:04,521 my assumption would be we put 2900 03:05:04,521 --> 03:05:04,860 in two in the budget last year I believe. 2901 03:05:04,860 --> 03:05:11,672 we put three in the budget last year so two were purchased and 2902 03:05:11,672 --> 03:05:12,729 we're purchasing the third next 2903 03:05:12,729 --> 03:05:14,428 year and I'm assuming the costs were higher than we anticipated 2904 03:05:14,428 --> 03:05:14,428 . 2905 03:05:14,428 --> 03:05:27,772 we will just confirm with some numbers to make sure. 2906 03:05:27,772 --> 03:05:38,524 >> three u. Warden just looking 2907 03:05:38,524 --> 03:05:41,318 at the budget we did budget 800,000 for two loaders last year. 2908 03:05:41,318 --> 03:05:45,247 we got them at a better price 2909 03:05:45,247 --> 03:05:46,515 than we thought so we spent only 2910 03:05:46,515 --> 03:05:52,133 720,000 of that and we are looking for purchase of another loader in 2026. 2911 03:05:52,133 --> 03:05:57,072 >> if I may, I just have one more thing. 2912 03:05:57,072 --> 03:06:05,065 on page 159 under the -- I guess 2913 03:06:05,065 --> 03:06:07,569 it's the construction project listing the second last item is 2914 03:06:07,569 --> 03:06:14,467 roadway expansion pickets as heritage road extension mccain 2915 03:06:14,467 --> 03:06:27,813 county road 22 road two west and I talked with my colleague here to figure out how heritage extends from maine and road two. 2916 03:06:27,813 --> 03:06:43,470 is this the new road not in there yet? 2917 03:06:43,470 --> 03:06:55,186 >> through you, we listed that 2918 03:06:55,186 --> 03:06:58,791 under our construction budget. 2919 03:06:58,791 --> 03:07:05,803 it is particularly for the intersection of heritage road and county road 20. 2920 03:07:05,803 --> 03:07:14,699 speaking with your administration of the town -- they said they were going to move forward with improvement 2921 03:07:14,699 --> 03:07:15,795 at the intersection so there would be a county sheriff for that. 2922 03:07:15,795 --> 03:07:30,941 it's part of a bigger project there working towards in heritage road north to kingsville road two. >> I appreciate that because it doesn't really involve road two at all. 2923 03:07:30,941 --> 03:07:33,950 that's what threw me. I'm not connecting these roads 2924 03:07:33,950 --> 03:07:36,963 . Is the intersection specifically 2925 03:07:36,963 --> 03:07:39,648 heritage on main street not even a four-way and it will be upgraded. 2926 03:07:39,648 --> 03:07:47,519 just one more thing I had messaged sometime throughout the 2927 03:07:47,519 --> 03:07:54,619 year asking about county road 20 from heritage to think mccain specifically about pay shoulders 2928 03:07:54,619 --> 03:07:55,339  shoulders. 2929 03:07:54,619 --> 03:07:55,339 I don't 2930 03:07:55,339 --> 03:07:55,339  shoulders. 2931 03:07:55,339 --> 03:08:01,192 I don't see it here and I think the response I got when I asked about where it was on our plan was for 26. 2932 03:08:01,192 --> 03:08:02,824 I don't see it here. 2933 03:08:02,824 --> 03:08:05,683 I don't see it on any of the lists unless I'm missing it. 2934 03:08:05,683 --> 03:08:10,834 road 20 from heritage to mccain 2935 03:08:10,834 --> 03:08:23,024 . 2936 03:08:23,024 --> 03:08:38,426 >> through you warden just some clarification. 2937 03:08:38,426 --> 03:08:50,955 county road 23 to mccain or heritage to mccain. >> my question was because I had 2938 03:08:50,955 --> 03:08:52,381 gotten questions about the safety of biking. 2939 03:08:52,381 --> 03:08:59,238 more of our not done yet with 2940 03:08:59,238 --> 03:08:59,356 no paved shoulders. 2941 03:08:59,356 --> 03:09:09,730 we have that doughnut with a dense residential out of town so people bike on that. I would have loved to have seen that done which I argue nobody's 2942 03:09:09,730 --> 03:09:11,313 biking on. 2943 03:09:11,313 --> 03:09:14,548 when I asked about specifically 2944 03:09:14,548 --> 03:09:19,210 when this might come up in our plan for that I was sure that it was 26. 2945 03:09:19,210 --> 03:09:26,951 do we add those shoulders at the same time that come after -- 2946 03:09:26,951 --> 03:09:28,642 >> through you a doesn't look 2947 03:09:28,642 --> 03:09:32,101 like we included that in our 26 budget. 2948 03:09:32,101 --> 03:09:35,655 typically we would put paved shoulders on at the same time 2949 03:09:35,655 --> 03:09:40,711 as we do the resurfacing. And the odd situation we have 2950 03:09:40,711 --> 03:09:40,986 paid shoulders as standalone projects. 2951 03:09:40,986 --> 03:09:51,935 >> when we are talking about the various places counter road 18 was upgraded as the road and we 2952 03:09:51,935 --> 03:09:54,578 put the trail and don't have a 2953 03:09:54,578 --> 03:09:58,461 plan or how to fund this going 2954 03:09:58,461 --> 03:10:00,175 forward and I think we will have 2955 03:10:00,175 --> 03:10:05,983 to start prioritizing were people are actually biking verses were doing the road let's pave the shoulders picker member 2956 03:10:05,983 --> 03:10:08,869 arguing last budgeted take it 2957 03:10:08,869 --> 03:10:11,560 off and I voted down against and 2958 03:10:11,560 --> 03:10:14,181 would've loved to see the dollars go to this road which is actually connecting residential 2959 03:10:14,181 --> 03:10:17,837 to downtown and would've been way more beneficial. 2960 03:10:17,837 --> 03:10:22,390 it didn't make the 26 budget. As it may be going to be on next 2961 03:10:22,390 --> 03:10:25,830 year I want the residents asking me 2962 03:10:25,830 --> 03:10:28,030 when it doesn't get done because I shared with them it was going 2963 03:10:28,030 --> 03:10:29,517 to be on the 26 budget. 2964 03:10:29,517 --> 03:10:31,415 is it on the 27? 2965 03:10:31,415 --> 03:10:32,134 do we know? Is it on the horizon? 2966 03:10:32,134 --> 03:10:36,298 >> through you as I understand 2967 03:10:36,298 --> 03:10:39,375 it it's on the 27 horizon. 2968 03:10:39,375 --> 03:10:45,114 it also has a local component 2969 03:10:45,114 --> 03:10:46,318 so the town of kings well we'll have to included on the budget 2970 03:10:46,318 --> 03:10:46,476 as well. 2971 03:10:46,476 --> 03:10:55,012 >> anyone else? 2972 03:10:55,012 --> 03:11:06,660 >> through you just a question if you could look at the budget narrative of page 9 talking about the transit feasibility 2973 03:11:06,660 --> 03:11:07,694 study Is there a typo that were talks 2974 03:11:07,694 --> 03:11:13,830 about the regional transit working group will continue discussions in 2026. 2975 03:11:13,830 --> 03:11:19,067 council approved to begin a trans visibility study. 2976 03:11:19,067 --> 03:11:22,142 is that 2025 or am I reading that incorrect? 2977 03:11:22,142 --> 03:11:28,045 >> through you could you repeat 2978 03:11:28,045 --> 03:11:31,259 . >> it's page 9 of 13 on the narrative report. 2979 03:11:31,259 --> 03:11:38,334 it talks about council approved 2980 03:11:38,334 --> 03:11:41,664 100,000 in 2026 to begin and I transit feasibility study. 2981 03:11:41,664 --> 03:11:51,114 is that 2025, is that a typo or 2982 03:11:51,114 --> 03:11:51,710 . Is that correct. 2983 03:11:51,114 --> 03:11:51,710 >> through 2984 03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:51,710 . Is that correct. 2985 03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:58,018 >> through you we did have the discussion in 2025 about the transit and regional transit in 2986 03:11:58,018 --> 03:12:00,664 essex county and through that discussion in the report I was 2987 03:12:00,664 --> 03:12:06,037 directed to include an amount of money of the 26 budget to begin a transit feasibility study. 2988 03:12:06,037 --> 03:12:11,275 >> so that clarifies that. 2989 03:12:11,275 --> 03:12:12,383 there's still the transit working group. 2990 03:12:12,383 --> 03:12:17,906 I was disappointed to learn the leamington line got denied this 2991 03:12:17,906 --> 03:12:26,334 year and even in the municipality of leamington I think we need to be serious in terms of having data and look at 2992 03:12:26,334 --> 03:12:31,762 the cost so we can have regional transit in the county of essex. 2993 03:12:31,762 --> 03:12:36,890 we need to start somewhere so this hundred thousand will go 2994 03:12:36,890 --> 03:12:37,668 towards continuing those discussions and come back with a 2995 03:12:37,668 --> 03:12:44,066 plan and all local municipalities need to have skin in the game when we use the term 2996 03:12:44,066 --> 03:12:44,066  term. 2997 03:12:44,066 --> 03:12:58,831 I know a lot do their own transit but we need to be able to connect it We applaud on how it's ec way and we got 161 kilometres yet we cannot even figure out how to 2998 03:12:58,831 --> 03:13:05,674 do regional transit and we've been talking about it for decades. More than a decade. I'd like to talk about -- I'd like to see that. 2999 03:13:05,674 --> 03:13:05,792 thank you for clarifying. 3000 03:13:05,792 --> 03:13:10,933 >> thank you. Councillor rogers. >> thank you and through you, a couple of points. 3001 03:13:10,933 --> 03:13:18,009 county road 50 feasibility study we had to know this was coming. 3002 03:13:18,009 --> 03:13:20,273 I know we are going through it 3003 03:13:20,273 --> 03:13:22,356 and it's coming to fruition soon 3004 03:13:22,356 --> 03:13:22,356  soon. 3005 03:13:22,356 --> 03:13:23,937 maybe the first question is an update of where we're at on it 3006 03:13:23,937 --> 03:13:23,937 . 3007 03:13:23,937 --> 03:13:32,561 >> thank you, through you we are continuing to finalize the feasibility study. 3008 03:13:32,561 --> 03:13:40,818 that is looking at feasibility of adding transportation to a 3009 03:13:40,818 --> 03:13:44,226 segment of county road 50 in kingsville just east of conservation boulevard. 3010 03:13:44,226 --> 03:13:46,796 we've had a public meeting with 3011 03:13:46,796 --> 03:13:48,381 the community. 3012 03:13:48,381 --> 03:13:51,021 honestly we're struggling a little bit with the consultant 3013 03:13:51,021 --> 03:13:57,258 and working to get a product we 3014 03:13:57,258 --> 03:13:59,230 can share with the public and 3015 03:13:59,230 --> 03:14:01,155 would like to thank the town of kingsville and your 3016 03:13:59,289 --> 03:14:01,155 Administration 3017 03:14:01,155 --> 03:14:01,155 would like to thank the town of kingsville and your 3018 03:14:01,155 --> 03:14:01,215 Administration for working with 3019 03:14:01,215 --> 03:14:06,237 us through this project. 3020 03:14:06,237 --> 03:14:15,441 one thing I could share with council at the moment is it looks like prior to doing any 3021 03:14:15,441 --> 03:14:17,427 surface work or trail construction there's likely going to have to be some stormwater 3022 03:14:17,427 --> 03:14:21,328 stormwater's -- solution to that 3023 03:14:21,328 --> 03:14:22,598 and it would likely be through the municipal drainage process 3024 03:14:22,598 --> 03:14:22,598 . 3025 03:14:22,598 --> 03:14:27,083 that's likely coming in the near 3026 03:14:27,083 --> 03:14:30,755 future for council at the town 3027 03:14:30,755 --> 03:14:30,814 of kingsville to consider. 3028 03:14:30,814 --> 03:14:37,590 >> is there any items in this 3029 03:14:37,590 --> 03:14:37,708 budget for that project? 3030 03:14:37,708 --> 03:14:42,617 >> through you, there is not. 3031 03:14:42,617 --> 03:14:45,469 we need to get through this feasibility study and bring that 3032 03:14:45,469 --> 03:14:52,599 recommendation to county counsel and because it was so late in the year we were not able to get 3033 03:14:52,599 --> 03:14:57,969 it into the 27 -- 26 budget. >> maybe a couple of comments on that. 3034 03:14:57,969 --> 03:15:02,540 hearing my colleagues talk about 3035 03:15:02,540 --> 03:15:07,084 road 50 -- it's to my knowledge 3036 03:15:07,084 --> 03:15:13,544 that the section hasn't been brought before council but this is actually a section approved 3037 03:15:13,544 --> 03:15:14,308 by council, a feasibility study has been approved for it. 3038 03:15:14,308 --> 03:15:19,564 there's understanding there's drainage and utility dollars for that project. 3039 03:15:19,564 --> 03:15:30,792 I think it's only where the county has been out and identified -- we know it's going to be a big project but us waiting and kicking the can down 3040 03:15:30,792 --> 03:15:32,014 another year for me is we'd like to see some sort of dollar. 3041 03:15:32,014 --> 03:15:35,653 with dollars coming out for the 3042 03:15:35,653 --> 03:15:45,715 project my hope is from the feasibility study within the same pocket maybe there's some dollars there for us to continue to move this project forward. 3043 03:15:45,715 --> 03:15:49,446 I'd hate for it to be a stalemate over another year because we know there will be 3044 03:15:49,446 --> 03:15:55,790 a lot of work and not doubting -- have to take some land there. 3045 03:15:55,790 --> 03:16:02,123 there's a lot of things that will be done if we move forward. We delayed another year then it's another year and continuing 3046 03:16:02,123 --> 03:16:03,329 to kick it down the road. 3047 03:16:03,329 --> 03:16:05,402 maybe a couple of comments, please. 3048 03:16:05,402 --> 03:16:08,517 >> thank you, through you warden 3049 03:16:08,517 --> 03:16:08,517  warden. 3050 03:16:08,517 --> 03:16:10,599 I believe there are differences 3051 03:16:10,599 --> 03:16:14,938 between county road 50 and in kingsville. 3052 03:16:14,938 --> 03:16:20,852 one that comes to mind is I'm certain the project and abbess 3053 03:16:20,852 --> 03:16:23,001 berg is part of the current network. 3054 03:16:23,001 --> 03:16:27,245 it was one of the projects further into the future and it 3055 03:16:27,245 --> 03:16:29,134 wasn't one of the low hanging 3056 03:16:29,134 --> 03:16:31,644 fruits that we could tackle easily so it's been on the books 3057 03:16:31,644 --> 03:16:33,128 and planning for that. 3058 03:16:33,128 --> 03:16:43,332 the project in kingsville I believe was set aside because of the difficulties and because of the work they done on their own 3059 03:16:43,332 --> 03:16:47,169 to find another solution to complete that active 3060 03:16:43,391 --> 03:16:47,169 Transportation 3061 03:16:47,169 --> 03:16:47,169 to find another solution to complete that active 3062 03:16:47,169 --> 03:16:47,228 Transportation facility. 3063 03:16:47,228 --> 03:17:04,243 -- there was a solution currently in play and I wouldn't 3064 03:17:04,243 --> 03:17:08,462 want to leave council of the idea they will be doing anything in 2026 with that project. 3065 03:17:08,462 --> 03:17:11,758 it'll be brought back for council's consideration because 3066 03:17:11,758 --> 03:17:16,903 I am of the opinion that the first that will be a drainage 3067 03:17:16,903 --> 03:17:19,426 solution that likely get started 3068 03:17:19,426 --> 03:17:20,073 if things fall in line in the 3069 03:17:20,073 --> 03:17:23,531 right reports get written to the 3070 03:17:23,531 --> 03:17:23,749 different councils I could start 3071 03:17:23,749 --> 03:17:23,810 this year. 3072 03:17:23,810 --> 03:17:30,149 >> I like the word could. 3073 03:17:30,149 --> 03:17:31,299 thank you. >> anyone else? 3074 03:17:31,299 --> 03:17:42,655 there is a recommendation for council that the presentation 3075 03:17:42,655 --> 03:17:42,714 infrastructure and planning 3076 03:17:42,655 --> 03:17:42,714 Services 3077 03:17:42,714 --> 03:17:42,714 infrastructure and planning 3078 03:17:42,714 --> 03:17:46,167 Services budget -- the estimates 3079 03:17:46,167 --> 03:17:50,697 for infrastructure planning services be received or received and approved. 3080 03:17:50,697 --> 03:17:59,061 looking for your direction. Councillor gibb. >> received and approved. >> councillor gibb. 3081 03:17:59,061 --> 03:18:01,863 looking for a second or. Councillor rogers pick any discussion of the motion? 3082 03:18:01,863 --> 03:18:17,840 we will ask you to vote electronically please. 3083 03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:33,755 and that's carried. 3084 03:18:33,755 --> 03:18:44,295 it's now time for lunch so I'm going to need a motion to recess for a 30 minute lunch break. 3085 03:18:44,295 --> 03:18:47,141 it's 12:18. I'm looking at 12:48. 3086 03:18:47,141 --> 03:18:53,265 a mover and a second or moved 3087 03:18:53,265 --> 03:18:53,810 by councillor meloche. 3088 03:18:53,810 --> 03:18:58,916 seconded by council prue. All in favour. I will ask you to sit for minute because we have some instructions. 3089 03:18:58,916 --> 03:19:01,520 all in favour and nobody wants to go. 3090 03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:01,638 that's approved. 3091 03:19:01,638 --> 03:19:07,237 the note from the clerk is please enter the kitchen by the 3092 03:19:07,237 --> 03:19:13,994 main hallway, not the eerie room for the lunch key when she's asking council vote first. 3093 03:19:13,994 --> 03:19:16,738 don't you like to be the ones that go first? 3094 03:19:16,738 --> 03:19:20,187 were good? understood? 3095 03:19:20,187 --> 03:19:39,445 great. 3096 03:24:59,457 --> 04:04:03,560 >> speaker-01: I'm going to call the meeting to order. 3097 04:04:03,560 --> 04:04:05,029 is after 1:00. 3098 04:04:05,029 --> 04:04:06,606 we are going to start the next 3099 04:04:06,606 --> 04:04:09,767 session of budget with the essex 3100 04:04:09,767 --> 04:04:10,004  essex county library. 3101 04:04:10,004 --> 04:04:14,252 for that we have adam cracknell 3102 04:04:14,252 --> 04:04:15,460 chief librarian to present the 3103 04:04:15,460 --> 04:04:16,397 2026 budget estimates. 3104 04:04:16,397 --> 04:04:17,180 over to you, adam. 3105 04:04:17,180 --> 04:04:20,896 >> thank you, madame morden. 3106 04:04:20,896 --> 04:04:23,830 the 2025 was the first full year 3107 04:04:23,830 --> 04:04:25,622 of work toward the goal set up 3108 04:04:25,622 --> 04:04:27,721 in the recent essex strategic 3109 04:04:27,721 --> 04:04:30,606 plan and that includes the mission statement before you. 3110 04:04:30,606 --> 04:04:32,613 the idea of the library being 3111 04:04:32,613 --> 04:04:34,021 a space for discovery for all of 3112 04:04:34,021 --> 04:04:35,853 the heart of our committees has 3113 04:04:35,853 --> 04:04:37,670 been rocked -- brought to life 3114 04:04:37,670 --> 04:04:39,342 by the work our staff have been 3115 04:04:39,342 --> 04:04:40,373 doing across 14 branches. 3116 04:04:40,373 --> 04:04:41,925 we see substantial measurable 3117 04:04:41,925 --> 04:04:45,035 increases in engagement, particularly with programming 3118 04:04:45,035 --> 04:04:46,414 and do user sign-ups. 3119 04:04:46,414 --> 04:04:48,286 for example, between february 3120 04:04:48,286 --> 04:04:49,546 and november of this year, we 3121 04:04:49,546 --> 04:04:51,825 welcomed over 1000 new memberships to the library. 3122 04:04:51,825 --> 04:04:56,914 I think this reinforces the notion that the library is an 3123 04:04:56,914 --> 04:04:58,106 important part of more and more 3124 04:04:58,106 --> 04:04:58,827 community members lives. 3125 04:04:58,827 --> 04:05:02,793 taking it a step further, the 3126 04:05:02,793 --> 04:05:04,200 essex county libraries vision 3127 04:05:04,200 --> 04:05:08,179 statement that you have here emphasizes connecting its patrons to information and entertainment. 3128 04:05:08,179 --> 04:05:14,300 our responsive service and community embedded staff contribute to positioning the 3129 04:05:14,300 --> 04:05:15,585 library as a cornerstone of  of county services. 3130 04:05:15,585 --> 04:05:20,631 we are not emergency medicine 3131 04:05:20,631 --> 04:05:22,096 nor housing but I think it could 3132 04:05:22,096 --> 04:05:27,004 be argued that the library provides critical service in support of increasing quality 3133 04:05:27,004 --> 04:05:30,132 of life for every resident of essex 3134 04:05:30,132 --> 04:05:30,162  essex county. 3135 04:05:30,162 --> 04:05:31,882 we foster lifelong learning and 3136 04:05:31,882 --> 04:05:35,494 community engagement in ways that few other organizations do 3137 04:05:35,494 --> 04:05:35,494 . 3138 04:05:35,494 --> 04:05:37,754 post-pandemic, we have continued 3139 04:05:37,754 --> 04:05:38,947 building woman meant -- momentum 3140 04:05:38,947 --> 04:05:39,947 toward achieving the vision. 3141 04:05:39,947 --> 04:05:44,379 our staff delivered 2242 programs between january and november of this year. 3142 04:05:44,379 --> 04:05:49,011 this was over 84,000 patrons across the county. 3143 04:05:49,011 --> 04:05:51,520 by comparison in all of 2024, 3144 04:05:51,520 --> 04:05:52,958 we had a 77,000 program attendees 3145 04:05:52,958 --> 04:05:52,958 . 3146 04:05:52,958 --> 04:05:57,035 we've already surpassed our 2024 3147 04:05:57,035 --> 04:05:58,228 totals and had record-breaking 3148 04:05:58,228 --> 04:05:59,719 months in july and october of 3149 04:05:59,719 --> 04:05:59,969 this year. 3150 04:05:59,969 --> 04:06:03,991 I'm here today to ask for what 3151 04:06:03,991 --> 04:06:06,405 we believe is a modest increase 3152 04:06:06,405 --> 04:06:09,213 tied largely to negotiated changes in salary and benefits 3153 04:06:09,213 --> 04:06:09,213 . 3154 04:06:09,213 --> 04:06:10,070 our net departmental requirement 3155 04:06:10,070 --> 04:06:14,823 has gone from 7,006,460 in 2025 3156 04:06:14,823 --> 04:06:19,931 to 7,165,280 in 2026. 3157 04:06:19,931 --> 04:06:21,946 this is not discretionary cost 3158 04:06:21,946 --> 04:06:22,196 growth. 3159 04:06:22,196 --> 04:06:23,748 this is tied to salary and benefits. 3160 04:06:23,748 --> 04:06:28,214 as you can see, staffing costs 3161 04:06:28,214 --> 04:06:30,257 account for the line share of 3162 04:06:30,257 --> 04:06:33,496 this budget at 71.8 percent, followed by material costs. 3163 04:06:33,496 --> 04:06:39,405 that is cost associated with books and dvds and other loanable materials, at about 12% 12%. 3164 04:06:39,405 --> 04:06:42,298 what this meant during the preparation process for today, 3165 04:06:42,298 --> 04:06:47,760 we took a deep look at historically under spent the budget lines and reallocated accordingly to ensure that our 3166 04:06:47,760 --> 04:06:49,354 core functions are being met and 3167 04:06:49,354 --> 04:06:51,067 that there is very little fat 3168 04:06:51,067 --> 04:06:51,567 on this budget. 3169 04:06:51,567 --> 04:06:57,511 as mentioned, the 2026 budget 3170 04:06:57,511 --> 04:06:58,891 includes request for increases 3171 04:06:58,891 --> 04:07:04,357 of 128,000 dollars for wages and 3172 04:07:04,357 --> 04:07:05,792 another 30,700 for benefit cost 3173 04:07:05,792 --> 04:07:05,792 . 3174 04:07:05,792 --> 04:07:09,914 overall, the proposed request 3175 04:07:09,914 --> 04:07:13,792 accounts and amounts to 2.3% increase over the 2025 budget, 3176 04:07:13,792 --> 04:07:16,664 this level of increase would allow us to maintain our current 3177 04:07:16,664 --> 04:07:17,881 staffing levels, which in turn 3178 04:07:17,881 --> 04:07:18,865 allows the library to continue 3179 04:07:18,865 --> 04:07:23,402 providing quality, community service at all 14 branches. 3180 04:07:23,402 --> 04:07:26,481 with that, I would be happy to 3181 04:07:26,481 --> 04:07:27,199 answer any questions. 3182 04:07:27,199 --> 04:07:29,451 >> thank you. 3183 04:07:29,451 --> 04:07:30,456 questions for our chief librarian? 3184 04:07:30,456 --> 04:07:31,237 councilor deyong. 3185 04:07:31,237 --> 04:07:36,526 >> I think I know the answer but 3186 04:07:36,526 --> 04:07:37,773 on the salaries, students from 3187 04:07:37,773 --> 04:07:40,421 2025 of this budget a 200,000, 3188 04:07:40,421 --> 04:07:43,194 we didn't spend any of that towards not propose we will. 3189 04:07:43,194 --> 04:07:46,064 and we are looking for 328 for 3190 04:07:46,064 --> 04:07:46,315 26. 3191 04:07:46,315 --> 04:07:47,442 so it is up $130,000. 3192 04:07:47,442 --> 04:07:50,587 even though we didn't have any 3193 04:07:50,587 --> 04:07:51,352 projected for 2025. 3194 04:07:51,352 --> 04:07:53,661 but I see part-time is down by 3195 04:07:53,661 --> 04:07:57,118 almost three something. 3196 04:07:57,118 --> 04:07:58,416 is that the difference? 3197 04:07:58,416 --> 04:08:00,546 >> there are a couple of items 3198 04:08:00,546 --> 04:08:02,058 here where we moved things around. 3199 04:08:02,058 --> 04:08:05,128 the costing stayed the same, if 3200 04:08:05,128 --> 04:08:06,318 I'm not mistaken. 3201 04:08:06,318 --> 04:08:08,206 we actually sort of changed the 3202 04:08:08,206 --> 04:08:09,443 naming on the budget lines. 3203 04:08:09,443 --> 04:08:10,761 there is another place where you 3204 04:08:10,761 --> 04:08:14,362 will see electronic data and hosting services. 3205 04:08:14,362 --> 04:08:19,016 it has us asking for zero dollars there but that funding 3206 04:08:19,016 --> 04:08:20,530 is actually moved to another client. 3207 04:08:20,530 --> 04:08:21,841 is a more descriptive and were 3208 04:08:21,841 --> 04:08:22,090 appropriate. 3209 04:08:22,090 --> 04:08:25,133 it is actually not a change in 3210 04:08:25,133 --> 04:08:27,023 the dollars we are asking. 3211 04:08:27,023 --> 04:08:28,798 please correct me if I am speaking. 3212 04:08:28,798 --> 04:08:30,458 it's not a change in the dollars 3213 04:08:30,458 --> 04:08:31,950 we are asking, just moving into 3214 04:08:31,950 --> 04:08:33,214 other places where they are more 3215 04:08:33,214 --> 04:08:33,463 appropriate. 3216 04:08:33,463 --> 04:08:37,367 >> that's what I figured. 3217 04:08:37,367 --> 04:08:40,179 students are part-timers and that's why the two lines are interchangeable. 3218 04:08:40,179 --> 04:08:40,282 thank you. 3219 04:08:40,282 --> 04:08:42,308 >> anyone else? 3220 04:08:42,308 --> 04:08:45,001 deputy warden. 3221 04:08:45,001 --> 04:08:45,294 >> thank you. 3222 04:08:45,294 --> 04:08:50,755 adam for preventing 3223 04:08:50,755 --> 04:08:52,136 the ball it -- the budget. 3224 04:08:52,136 --> 04:08:57,703 the library board, we have many 3225 04:08:57,703 --> 04:09:07,387 councillors to sit on the library board, a councilor from 3226 04:09:07,387 --> 04:09:08,746 la salle and leamington and kingsville. 3227 04:09:08,746 --> 04:09:12,418 I'm very proud working with this 3228 04:09:12,418 --> 04:09:13,906 budget in terms of offering the 3229 04:09:13,906 --> 04:09:17,250 programs and just to mention, 3230 04:09:17,250 --> 04:09:19,397 I know throughout a him, there is 3231 04:09:19,397 --> 04:09:21,366 a lot of increase in terms of 3232 04:09:21,366 --> 04:09:27,296 the surplus books due to the flood and so a lot of these discarded books have been put 3233 04:09:27,296 --> 04:09:27,798 to good use. 3234 04:09:27,798 --> 04:09:28,812 there are several board members 3235 04:09:28,812 --> 04:09:30,297 that took advantage of having 3236 04:09:30,297 --> 04:09:30,547 community events. 3237 04:09:30,547 --> 04:09:34,217 I encourage anyone, if there are 3238 04:09:34,217 --> 04:09:36,411 any groups or people that you 3239 04:09:36,411 --> 04:09:39,190 know please share the word, contact adam and he will connect 3240 04:09:39,190 --> 04:09:41,811 you with that and you can have 3241 04:09:41,811 --> 04:09:43,032 a community free book giveaway. 3242 04:09:43,032 --> 04:09:44,233 thank you for fostering that, 3243 04:09:44,233 --> 04:09:45,263 into your staff as well. 3244 04:09:45,263 --> 04:09:45,333 thank you. 3245 04:09:45,333 --> 04:09:49,835 >> councilor bondy. 3246 04:09:49,835 --> 04:09:50,665 >> thank you, warden macdonald 3247 04:09:50,665 --> 04:09:50,665 . 3248 04:09:50,665 --> 04:09:55,114 it is a solid budget. 3249 04:09:55,114 --> 04:09:56,816 not asking for any real increases. 3250 04:09:56,816 --> 04:10:01,365 my question is more, we know the 3251 04:10:01,365 --> 04:10:02,882 herald library had a division 3252 04:10:02,882 --> 04:10:04,495 c in -- a deficiency in stop for 3253 04:10:04,495 --> 04:10:04,994 a while. 3254 04:10:04,994 --> 04:10:06,075 are there any branches that are 3255 04:10:06,075 --> 04:10:10,360 lacking staff right now and if 3256 04:10:10,360 --> 04:10:12,935 so is this something you are 3257 04:10:12,935 --> 04:10:14,270 looking to be addressed in 2027? 3258 04:10:14,270 --> 04:10:23,106 >> if the question is do we need 3259 04:10:23,106 --> 04:10:25,952 -- I can always do more with more. 3260 04:10:25,952 --> 04:10:27,391 I think maintaining our current 3261 04:10:27,391 --> 04:10:29,535 level of service, we are seeing 3262 04:10:29,535 --> 04:10:31,507 it pay off in 2027 we could look 3263 04:10:31,507 --> 04:10:33,258 at it over the course of 26. 3264 04:10:33,258 --> 04:10:35,008 if there were a need to adjust 3265 04:10:35,008 --> 04:10:37,482 staffing levels, we would certainly come back to the table 3266 04:10:37,482 --> 04:10:38,504 and ask in 27. 3267 04:10:38,504 --> 04:10:44,510 >> it is something that of  of course I will bring up at the 3268 04:10:44,510 --> 04:10:46,245 board but I wanted to ask that 3269 04:10:46,245 --> 04:10:47,740 question here as well because 3270 04:10:47,740 --> 04:10:49,237 we know that numbers are going up 3271 04:10:49,237 --> 04:10:50,236 , circulation is trending up. 3272 04:10:50,236 --> 04:10:51,985 I want to make sure the current 3273 04:10:51,985 --> 04:10:53,827 level of stuff like any other 3274 04:10:53,827 --> 04:10:54,824 service we provide is adequate 3275 04:10:54,824 --> 04:10:56,857 in that when we get new branches 3276 04:10:56,857 --> 04:11:02,072 as well, it could potentially 3277 04:11:02,072 --> 04:11:03,319 need more hours in the future. 3278 04:11:03,319 --> 04:11:04,869 that is something that I want 3279 04:11:04,869 --> 04:11:06,367 to make sure we are looking at. 3280 04:11:06,367 --> 04:11:08,137 every time we get a new branch 3281 04:11:08,137 --> 04:11:10,097 , there is a renewed energy in that community. 3282 04:11:10,097 --> 04:11:10,407 so thank you. 3283 04:11:10,407 --> 04:11:14,467 whenever the discussion is right 3284 04:11:14,467 --> 04:11:16,839  right, I will make a motion to 3285 04:11:16,839 --> 04:11:17,595 support the budget. 3286 04:11:17,595 --> 04:11:18,119 >> thank you. 3287 04:11:18,119 --> 04:11:18,410 anyone else? 3288 04:11:18,410 --> 04:11:30,706 seeing there is no one else, there is a recommendation before 3289 04:11:30,706 --> 04:11:31,957 council that the presentation 3290 04:11:31,957 --> 04:11:36,540 for the proposed 2026 essex  essex county library board budget be received, and further 3291 04:11:36,540 --> 04:11:39,266 that the 2026 budget estimates 3292 04:11:39,266 --> 04:11:40,483 for essex county library board 3293 04:11:40,483 --> 04:11:41,999 be received or received and approved. 3294 04:11:41,999 --> 04:11:45,120 councilor bondy, what is your 3295 04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:45,120 wish? 3296 04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:46,778 >> may I please receive and approve. 3297 04:11:46,778 --> 04:11:50,407 >> moved by councilor bondy to 3298 04:11:50,407 --> 04:11:51,174 receive and approve. 3299 04:11:51,174 --> 04:11:53,710 second -- seconder? 3300 04:11:53,710 --> 04:11:55,574 deputy warden. 3301 04:11:55,574 --> 04:11:58,488 any discussion on the motion? 3302 04:11:58,488 --> 04:12:00,055 seeing none, I will ask you to 3303 04:12:00,055 --> 04:12:00,586 vote electronically. 3304 04:12:00,586 --> 04:12:11,286 that is carried. 3305 04:12:11,286 --> 04:12:11,361 thank you. 3306 04:12:11,361 --> 04:12:14,276 thanks, adam. 3307 04:12:14,276 --> 04:12:18,317 thank you, finance team. 3308 04:12:18,317 --> 04:12:23,330 next up, we have general government services. 3309 04:12:23,330 --> 04:12:24,666 for that report, we have melissa 3310 04:12:24,666 --> 04:12:32,727 ryan, our director of financial 3311 04:12:32,727 --> 04:12:33,587 services and treasury. 3312 04:12:33,587 --> 04:12:36,294 we have david something, our director of legal legislative. 3313 04:12:36,294 --> 04:12:40,306 darrell la ronde oh, our director of I.t. Information and 3314 04:12:40,306 --> 04:12:44,020 we have -- are we going to have 3315 04:12:44,020 --> 04:12:45,767 danielle or are you going to do 3316 04:12:45,767 --> 04:12:46,018 that? 3317 04:12:46,018 --> 04:12:47,550 danielle is going to do it. 3318 04:12:47,550 --> 04:12:47,550 okay. 3319 04:12:47,550 --> 04:12:48,394 interim director human resources 3320 04:12:48,394 --> 04:12:48,394  resources. 3321 04:12:48,394 --> 04:12:51,931 but there is no chair for you. 3322 04:12:51,931 --> 04:12:57,535 we are going to switch. 3323 04:12:57,535 --> 04:12:57,535 perfect. 3324 04:12:57,535 --> 04:12:58,160 over to you. 3325 04:12:58,160 --> 04:12:58,465 >> thank you. 3326 04:12:58,465 --> 04:13:04,618 the next department for discussion is the general government services area. 3327 04:13:04,618 --> 04:13:10,626 for this presentation of the warden alluded to, the four directors will present each representing their respective 3328 04:13:10,626 --> 04:13:10,626 areas. 3329 04:13:10,626 --> 04:13:14,986 the general government department is made up of several 3330 04:13:14,986 --> 04:13:16,475 key divisions that provide the 3331 04:13:16,475 --> 04:13:17,430 backbone of county operations. 3332 04:13:17,430 --> 04:13:21,395 as a whole, this department plays a strategic role offering 3333 04:13:21,395 --> 04:13:22,738 leadership legal and financial 3334 04:13:22,738 --> 04:13:24,215 guidance and setting policies 3335 04:13:24,215 --> 04:13:25,272 that support all county services 3336 04:13:25,272 --> 04:13:25,272  services. 3337 04:13:25,272 --> 04:13:31,855 the council services budget couples -- covers council remuneration and all related expenses corporate management 3338 04:13:31,855 --> 04:13:36,727 includes the ceos office and legislative services which handles legal matters, records 3339 04:13:36,727 --> 04:13:39,474 management medication and organizational development. 3340 04:13:39,474 --> 04:13:41,594 financial services also oversees 3341 04:13:41,594 --> 04:13:42,891 procurement while information 3342 04:13:42,891 --> 04:13:43,890 technology and tune resources 3343 04:13:43,890 --> 04:13:47,143 round out the team providing essential systems, tools and support across the organization 3344 04:13:47,143 --> 04:13:47,143 . 3345 04:13:47,143 --> 04:13:57,157 as you can see on this slide, 3346 04:13:57,157 --> 04:13:57,896 the overall general government 3347 04:13:57,896 --> 04:13:59,310 area shows an increase of just 3348 04:13:59,310 --> 04:14:02,547 over 1 million, bringing the total net department total requirement to just over 9.5 million. 3349 04:14:02,547 --> 04:14:03,352 this change reflects adjustments 3350 04:14:03,352 --> 04:14:04,561 across all four divisions within 3351 04:14:04,561 --> 04:14:05,050 the department. 3352 04:14:05,050 --> 04:14:10,035 at this point, I will turn things over to mr. David something our director of legislative and community services county solicitors walk 3353 04:14:10,035 --> 04:14:11,496 through his area in more detail 3354 04:14:11,496 --> 04:14:11,496 . 3355 04:14:11,496 --> 04:14:16,734 >> corporate management reflects 3356 04:14:16,734 --> 04:14:17,936 the combined operations of both 3357 04:14:17,936 --> 04:14:19,995 the office of the cao and the 3358 04:14:19,995 --> 04:14:20,732 legislative and legal services 3359 04:14:20,732 --> 04:14:20,968 department. 3360 04:14:20,968 --> 04:14:23,263 the draft budget before council 3361 04:14:23,263 --> 04:14:25,395 is very much a status quo budget 3362 04:14:25,395 --> 04:14:26,825 from my department's perspective 3363 04:14:26,825 --> 04:14:26,825  perspective. 3364 04:14:26,825 --> 04:14:29,087 we are not seeking any additional amounts. 3365 04:14:29,087 --> 04:14:32,802 in fact, there's a 15.5% decrease in the court manage -- 3366 04:14:32,802 --> 04:14:36,016 or budget which is a $430,000 3367 04:14:36,016 --> 04:14:36,016 decrease. 3368 04:14:36,016 --> 04:14:39,940 that reduction is due to staffing realignment and a new 3369 04:14:39,940 --> 04:14:40,906 admission ration cost recovery 3370 04:14:40,906 --> 04:14:40,906 . 3371 04:14:40,906 --> 04:14:43,696 that's being said, there are two 3372 04:14:43,696 --> 04:14:44,925 business cases at appendix three 3373 04:14:44,925 --> 04:14:46,916 that I would be happy to take 3374 04:14:46,916 --> 04:14:47,407 any questions on. 3375 04:14:47,407 --> 04:14:51,416 in 2026, now that's a number of 3376 04:14:51,416 --> 04:14:52,423 departmental changes have been 3377 04:14:52,423 --> 04:14:54,968 implemented in the past two years corporate management will 3378 04:14:54,968 --> 04:14:58,784 continue to focus on being a dependable resource other county 3379 04:14:58,784 --> 04:15:00,035 departments and across the region. 3380 04:15:00,035 --> 04:15:07,453 we provide support to other departments in county but we are 3381 04:15:07,453 --> 04:15:09,474 also hereto and I think we do 3382 04:15:09,474 --> 04:15:09,727 supports council. 3383 04:15:09,727 --> 04:15:11,998 for the -- pass number of years 3384 04:15:11,998 --> 04:15:13,535 , the corporate management group 3385 04:15:13,535 --> 04:15:16,009 has become a resource that local 3386 04:15:16,009 --> 04:15:20,044 municipalities rely on for sharing ideas, best practices 3387 04:15:20,044 --> 04:15:20,813 and promoting everyone working 3388 04:15:20,813 --> 04:15:21,774 together as a region. 3389 04:15:21,774 --> 04:15:24,627 this is the case of the county 3390 04:15:24,627 --> 04:15:26,227 cao taking lead in regular meetings. 3391 04:15:26,227 --> 04:15:29,101 the county clerk taking a regular meeting with local clerks. 3392 04:15:29,101 --> 04:15:32,143 and the county's lister and deputy solicitor recently taken 3393 04:15:32,143 --> 04:15:33,860 the lead in ensuring the legal 3394 04:15:33,860 --> 04:15:34,883 departments and the county meet 3395 04:15:34,883 --> 04:15:35,113 regularly. 3396 04:15:35,113 --> 04:15:39,061 this work was already underway 3397 04:15:39,061 --> 04:15:40,857 prior to this plan being adopted 3398 04:15:40,857 --> 04:15:40,857  adopted. 3399 04:15:40,857 --> 04:15:45,597 with that plan in place, we recognize the importance of focusing on this work to ensure 3400 04:15:45,597 --> 04:15:49,258 that we are advancing the strategic goals of working as 3401 04:15:49,258 --> 04:15:50,632 team essex county, and growing 3402 04:15:50,632 --> 04:15:52,103 as leaders in public service excellence. 3403 04:15:52,103 --> 04:15:57,617 one of the other strategic direction set by council is the 3404 04:15:57,617 --> 04:15:59,769 county should focus on being an 3405 04:15:59,769 --> 04:16:01,063 employer with impacts. 3406 04:16:01,063 --> 04:16:01,973 the communication division will 3407 04:16:01,973 --> 04:16:05,417 take the lead on employing excellence awards and ensuring 3408 04:16:05,417 --> 04:16:08,373 long service is acknowledged, 3409 04:16:08,373 --> 04:16:11,040 refining existing engagement opportunities and reviewing the 3410 04:16:11,040 --> 04:16:12,289 recently completed employee engagement survey. 3411 04:16:12,289 --> 04:16:16,789 further, the strategic plan also 3412 04:16:16,789 --> 04:16:18,401 calls for advancing truth and 3413 04:16:18,401 --> 04:16:19,125 reconciliation at the county. 3414 04:16:19,125 --> 04:16:21,967 relations with indigenous communities built in our area. 3415 04:16:21,967 --> 04:16:25,381 it will advance key strategic 3416 04:16:25,381 --> 04:16:27,361 goal the county taking steps 3417 04:16:27,361 --> 04:16:28,858 to engage a consultant to assist 3418 04:16:28,858 --> 04:16:30,341 in developing a plan to ensure we 3419 04:16:30,341 --> 04:16:31,800 are meeting our obligations to 3420 04:16:31,800 --> 04:16:32,535 our indigenous peoples. 3421 04:16:32,535 --> 04:16:33,580 it's anticipated the plan will 3422 04:16:33,580 --> 04:16:35,099 be ready for council's review 3423 04:16:35,099 --> 04:16:35,351 in 2026. 3424 04:16:35,351 --> 04:16:42,944 in 2021, the county had a consultant review the county's 3425 04:16:42,944 --> 04:16:44,213 records and information management program. 3426 04:16:44,213 --> 04:16:49,203 as that plan, a review is outdated and budgetary pressures 3427 04:16:49,203 --> 04:16:51,708 prevented the county from implementing some of those key 3428 04:16:51,708 --> 04:16:51,957 recommendations. 3429 04:16:51,957 --> 04:16:55,205 the environment for how records 3430 04:16:55,205 --> 04:16:57,257 are stored electronically has 3431 04:16:57,257 --> 04:16:58,011 changed significantly since then 3432 04:16:58,011 --> 04:16:58,011  then. 3433 04:16:58,011 --> 04:17:00,755 a review of the plan will be completed in 2026. 3434 04:17:00,755 --> 04:17:06,361 the goal is to ensure our records management plan is appropriate and builds on the 3435 04:17:06,361 --> 04:17:06,361 county 3436 04:17:06,361 --> 04:17:07,888 county's commitment to effective 3437 04:17:07,888 --> 04:17:09,627 records management and insurers 3438 04:17:09,627 --> 04:17:10,612 organize and secure management 3439 04:17:10,612 --> 04:17:11,338 of critical information. 3440 04:17:11,338 --> 04:17:18,335 with sets, I will throw it over 3441 04:17:18,335 --> 04:17:18,838 to melissa. 3442 04:17:18,838 --> 04:17:22,100 >> thank you. 3443 04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:23,422 financial services has another 3444 04:17:23,422 --> 04:17:25,049 busy year ahead, as we continue 3445 04:17:25,049 --> 04:17:26,300 modernizing how we do business 3446 04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:26,300 . 3447 04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:28,158 a lot of the big foundational 3448 04:17:28,158 --> 04:17:29,992 work started in 2025 and in 2026 3449 04:17:29,992 --> 04:17:36,060 we will be putting it into motion especially with the rollout of the new budget software to utilize for the 2027 3450 04:17:36,060 --> 04:17:37,712 county budget and the continuing 3451 04:17:37,712 --> 04:17:40,435 modules over a new human resources information system a 3452 04:17:40,435 --> 04:17:40,779 form. 3453 04:17:40,779 --> 04:17:42,920 of these tools make budgeting 3454 04:17:42,920 --> 04:17:43,676 and financial planning easier, 3455 04:17:43,676 --> 04:17:46,548 clear and more efficient for everyone across the organization 3456 04:17:46,548 --> 04:17:46,548  organization. 3457 04:17:46,548 --> 04:17:48,469 it will also keep focusing on 3458 04:17:48,469 --> 04:17:49,431 the things that strengthen the 3459 04:17:49,431 --> 04:17:49,775 county 3460 04:17:49,775 --> 04:17:52,162 county's long-term financial position helping departments 3461 04:17:52,162 --> 04:17:53,139 with deeper financial analysis 3462 04:17:53,139 --> 04:17:57,645 , more strategic procurement report -- support and making sure we get good value for the 3463 04:17:57,645 --> 04:17:59,165 contracts we enter into. 3464 04:17:59,165 --> 04:18:00,214 all the behind-the-scenes work 3465 04:18:00,214 --> 04:18:02,814 that protects the levee and supports good decision-making. 3466 04:18:02,814 --> 04:18:05,462 one of the bigger items in this 3467 04:18:05,462 --> 04:18:07,825 years finance budget is the 1 million-dollar contribution 3468 04:18:07,825 --> 04:18:09,620 toward the ems hub and capital 3469 04:18:09,620 --> 04:18:09,855 plan. 3470 04:18:09,855 --> 04:18:13,758 this is a levy funded item exactly in line with the funding 3471 04:18:13,758 --> 04:18:14,992 model council received in august 3472 04:18:14,992 --> 04:18:14,992  august. 3473 04:18:14,992 --> 04:18:17,143 it keeps us on track so when we 3474 04:18:17,143 --> 04:18:22,787 move forward with these land purchases design and construction the reserve capacity will be in place or at 3475 04:18:22,787 --> 04:18:25,013 the very least we have a plan 3476 04:18:25,013 --> 04:18:26,693 to replenish what is being depleted 3477 04:18:26,693 --> 04:18:26,693  depleted. 3478 04:18:26,693 --> 04:18:31,806 a quick note on internal recoveries you will see movement between general government departments this year 3479 04:18:31,806 --> 04:18:31,806  year. 3480 04:18:31,806 --> 04:18:32,603 that's mainly reallocating cost 3481 04:18:32,603 --> 04:18:35,234 where they more accurately live 3482 04:18:35,234 --> 04:18:35,234 . 3483 04:18:35,234 --> 04:18:37,597 it looks busy but doesn't change 3484 04:18:37,597 --> 04:18:38,380 the overall amounts. 3485 04:18:38,380 --> 04:18:40,968 for example, there was -- there 3486 04:18:40,968 --> 04:18:42,081 were legal recoveries previously 3487 04:18:42,081 --> 04:18:44,000 housed in finance however they 3488 04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:48,047 were moved to the corporate management area to reflect support they provide to other 3489 04:18:48,047 --> 04:18:48,047 departments. 3490 04:18:48,047 --> 04:18:52,791 finally, one small comment, earlier this year presented a 3491 04:18:52,791 --> 04:18:54,033 report on the county's credit 3492 04:18:54,033 --> 04:18:55,366 rating as there was -- questions 3493 04:18:55,366 --> 04:18:57,922 about the cost benefit of this 3494 04:18:57,922 --> 04:18:58,174 exercise. 3495 04:18:58,174 --> 04:18:59,600 there are no dollars included 3496 04:18:59,600 --> 04:19:01,106 in the draft budget for the credit 3497 04:19:01,106 --> 04:19:02,546 rating report at this time. 3498 04:19:02,546 --> 04:19:03,863 if council wants to added back 3499 04:19:03,863 --> 04:19:05,308 in that certainly can be done 3500 04:19:05,308 --> 04:19:07,353 at the end of the meeting today 3501 04:19:07,353 --> 04:19:07,353 . 3502 04:19:07,353 --> 04:19:11,613 otherwise, there is the 2025 report which you saw on the consent agenda. 3503 04:19:11,613 --> 04:19:15,581 the county did receive a aaa credit rating so that will hold 3504 04:19:15,581 --> 04:19:17,087 until the annual process is due 3505 04:19:17,087 --> 04:19:17,593 for renewal. 3506 04:19:17,593 --> 04:19:20,122 at that time, I would advise smp 3507 04:19:20,122 --> 04:19:22,071 we will not continue with the 3508 04:19:22,071 --> 04:19:22,669 credit rating process. 3509 04:19:22,669 --> 04:19:27,479 with that, I turn it over to daryl our director of information technology. 3510 04:19:27,479 --> 04:19:27,818 >> thank you. 3511 04:19:27,818 --> 04:19:33,590 for giving me the opportunity to speak with you 3512 04:19:33,590 --> 04:19:35,559 today about the proposed 2026 3513 04:19:35,559 --> 04:19:36,156 information technology services 3514 04:19:36,156 --> 04:19:36,405 budget. 3515 04:19:36,405 --> 04:19:39,989 I would like to start by acknowledging the hard work of 3516 04:19:39,989 --> 04:19:41,455 the small but mighty I.t. Team 3517 04:19:41,455 --> 04:19:44,421 that made 2025 a successful year 3518 04:19:44,421 --> 04:19:45,846 for our department, particularly 3519 04:19:45,846 --> 04:19:47,103 in advancing several key initiatives. 3520 04:19:47,103 --> 04:19:51,163 in july 2025, we took another 3521 04:19:51,163 --> 04:19:54,817 step toward centralizing our service delivery model by onboarding our business analyst 3522 04:19:54,817 --> 04:19:54,817 . 3523 04:19:54,817 --> 04:19:59,801 since then, we've made significant progress in understanding our application 3524 04:19:59,801 --> 04:20:00,551 landscape our data structures 3525 04:20:00,551 --> 04:20:03,138 and how our employees use our 3526 04:20:03,138 --> 04:20:03,138 systems. 3527 04:20:03,138 --> 04:20:10,753 we've already seen immediate results for bringing in the business world into the organization especially project 3528 04:20:10,753 --> 04:20:12,853 engagement and helping move several initiatives across the 3529 04:20:12,853 --> 04:20:13,355 finish line. 3530 04:20:13,355 --> 04:20:20,434 in early 2025, we also implemented and launched our managed detection and response 3531 04:20:20,434 --> 04:20:22,685 system service through field effects in partnership with tell 3532 04:20:22,685 --> 04:20:28,358 us work this investment has already paid dividends as our 3533 04:20:28,358 --> 04:20:30,439 modern provider alerted us to 3534 04:20:30,439 --> 04:20:31,642 attempted logins from russian 3535 04:20:31,642 --> 04:20:33,561 threat actors trying to access 3536 04:20:33,561 --> 04:20:34,062 our environment. 3537 04:20:34,062 --> 04:20:36,005 this validated the importance 3538 04:20:36,005 --> 04:20:37,469 and urgency of enhancing our cybersecurity initiatives. 3539 04:20:37,469 --> 04:20:42,181 in the third quarter of 2025, 3540 04:20:42,181 --> 04:20:43,431 we upgraded our firewall, which was 3541 04:20:43,431 --> 04:20:44,944 long overdue replacement. 3542 04:20:44,944 --> 04:20:49,072 this upgrade has allowed us to 3543 04:20:49,072 --> 04:20:51,179 implement stronger security controls including geo-fencing 3544 04:20:51,179 --> 04:20:54,887 and stricter access rules, helping us better protect the 3545 04:20:54,887 --> 04:20:54,887 county 3546 04:20:54,887 --> 04:20:55,265 county's environment. 3547 04:20:55,265 --> 04:20:58,095 we also made strategic staffing 3548 04:20:58,095 --> 04:20:58,831 improvements this year. 3549 04:20:58,831 --> 04:21:02,223 one of our help desk analyst positions was reclassified into 3550 04:21:02,223 --> 04:21:03,449 a help desk lead role. 3551 04:21:03,449 --> 04:21:05,410 this change has strengthened our 3552 04:21:05,410 --> 04:21:11,108 ability to coordinate daily operations assigned tasks effectively and ensure urgent 3553 04:21:11,108 --> 04:21:12,356 issues are prioritized appropriately. 3554 04:21:12,356 --> 04:21:15,106 finally, this quarter has been 3555 04:21:15,106 --> 04:21:19,493 especially exciting as we successfully advanced our microsoft 365 project. 3556 04:21:19,493 --> 04:21:22,097 over the past few weeks, we have 3557 04:21:22,097 --> 04:21:24,999 onboarding staff to exchange online implemented teams and 3558 04:21:24,999 --> 04:21:25,743 enabled cloud-based collaboration tools. 3559 04:21:25,743 --> 04:21:31,477 we are now moving into the design phase of our sharepoint 3560 04:21:31,477 --> 04:21:33,567 environment with targeted implementation in the first and 3561 04:21:33,567 --> 04:21:35,611 second quarters of 2026. 3562 04:21:35,611 --> 04:21:37,528 thank you to council for your 3563 04:21:37,528 --> 04:21:38,498 support of these initiatives in 3564 04:21:38,498 --> 04:21:38,748 2025. 3565 04:21:38,748 --> 04:21:43,290 in 2026, we continue advancing 3566 04:21:43,290 --> 04:21:44,656 the work recommended through the 3567 04:21:44,656 --> 04:21:47,162 2023 service delivery review. 3568 04:21:47,162 --> 04:21:49,359 in the proposed budget, you will 3569 04:21:49,359 --> 04:21:52,676 see line items related to improving network availability 3570 04:21:52,676 --> 04:21:54,682 , dependability and software and 3571 04:21:54,682 --> 04:21:55,421 service monitoring tools. 3572 04:21:55,421 --> 04:22:00,030 these tools will allow us to better monitor the performance 3573 04:22:00,030 --> 04:22:01,316 of our environment, proactively 3574 04:22:01,316 --> 04:22:02,999 detect issues and receive alerts 3575 04:22:02,999 --> 04:22:03,767 before outages occur. 3576 04:22:03,767 --> 04:22:07,610 if systems or services go down 3577 04:22:07,610 --> 04:22:13,001 , our enhanced visibility will ensure we are aware of the issues immediately and are able 3578 04:22:13,001 --> 04:22:14,987 to respond before users are able 3579 04:22:14,987 --> 04:22:16,242 to report on these issues. 3580 04:22:16,242 --> 04:22:19,903 in addition, we will continue 3581 04:22:19,903 --> 04:22:22,543 exploring efficiency tools recommended through the service 3582 04:22:22,543 --> 04:22:23,631 delivery review, particularly 3583 04:22:23,631 --> 04:22:25,010 those that are now available to 3584 04:22:25,010 --> 04:22:26,199 us through our recent microsoft 3585 04:22:26,199 --> 04:22:26,699 365 migration. 3586 04:22:26,699 --> 04:22:29,758 as part of the county's mission 3587 04:22:29,758 --> 04:22:32,271 , the I.t. Department will strengthen relationships with 3588 04:22:32,271 --> 04:22:36,640 other I.t. Departments in the 3589 04:22:36,640 --> 04:22:37,876 region as well as other locals 3590 04:22:37,876 --> 04:22:39,080 thought leaders, building this 3591 04:22:39,080 --> 04:22:40,821 community of practice will help 3592 04:22:40,821 --> 04:22:41,178 us. 3593 04:22:41,178 --> 04:22:43,333 knowledge, align emerging best 3594 04:22:43,333 --> 04:22:47,037 practices and implement solutions that benefit the broader region. 3595 04:22:47,037 --> 04:22:49,311 finally, we will continue our 3596 04:22:49,311 --> 04:22:49,808 cloud migration journey. 3597 04:22:49,808 --> 04:22:51,604 now that the county is operating 3598 04:22:51,604 --> 04:22:55,013 on microsoft 365, we will further embrace cloud services 3599 04:22:55,013 --> 04:22:57,650 to support and improve service 3600 04:22:57,650 --> 04:22:57,902 delivery. 3601 04:22:57,902 --> 04:23:03,447 in this budget, you will see references to our as were environment now rebranded by 3602 04:23:03,447 --> 04:23:04,200 microsoft as microsoft entre. 3603 04:23:04,200 --> 04:23:08,073 this transition is important as 3604 04:23:08,073 --> 04:23:11,003 it will enable greater administrative control, stronger 3605 04:23:11,003 --> 04:23:12,750 governance and improve protection from threat actors. 3606 04:23:12,750 --> 04:23:19,113 the current slide identifies business cases I.t. Submitted 3607 04:23:19,113 --> 04:23:19,361 for consideration. 3608 04:23:19,361 --> 04:23:20,657 if there are any questions, I'm 3609 04:23:20,657 --> 04:23:22,411 happy to answer them at the end 3610 04:23:22,411 --> 04:23:23,136 of these presentations. 3611 04:23:23,136 --> 04:23:27,401 but we will continue to strengthen our cybersecurity posture. 3612 04:23:27,401 --> 04:23:36,223 this includes ongoing initiatives such as our no before security awareness training program, which will remain a core component to our 3613 04:23:36,223 --> 04:23:37,259 defence strategy. 3614 04:23:37,259 --> 04:23:39,327 we will also be upgrading our 3615 04:23:39,327 --> 04:23:39,849 mobile device management platform. 3616 04:23:39,849 --> 04:23:44,984 this upgrade will improve our 3617 04:23:44,984 --> 04:23:45,727 management capabilities while 3618 04:23:45,727 --> 04:23:46,727 also providing cost savings for 3619 04:23:46,727 --> 04:23:47,215 the organization. 3620 04:23:47,215 --> 04:23:50,066 we will be performing additional 3621 04:23:50,066 --> 04:23:52,025 network upgrades throughout the 3622 04:23:52,025 --> 04:23:54,940 year enabling improved monitoring of our network quality access device management 3623 04:23:54,940 --> 04:23:54,940  management. 3624 04:23:54,940 --> 04:23:59,559 in 2025, the county also created 3625 04:23:59,559 --> 04:24:01,838 an ai policy and is working on 3626 04:24:01,838 --> 04:24:02,595 an ai framework. 3627 04:24:02,595 --> 04:24:04,183 building on that momentum, one 3628 04:24:04,183 --> 04:24:06,505 of our top parties for 2026 is 3629 04:24:06,505 --> 04:24:09,368 run an ai productivity pilot in 3630 04:24:09,368 --> 04:24:09,870 the county. 3631 04:24:09,870 --> 04:24:11,878 now the work really operating 3632 04:24:11,878 --> 04:24:16,680 within the microsoft 365 environment we plan to work with approximately 25 users who 3633 04:24:16,680 --> 04:24:18,395 will be identified early in the 3634 04:24:18,395 --> 04:24:21,470 new year to evaluate how the paid version of microsoft pilot 3635 04:24:21,470 --> 04:24:23,686 can help reduce time spent on 3636 04:24:23,686 --> 04:24:26,082 routine task and improve our overall productivity. 3637 04:24:26,082 --> 04:24:28,292 we will also continue our full 3638 04:24:28,292 --> 04:24:32,035 transition into the microsoft 3639 04:24:32,035 --> 04:24:32,770 365 ecosystem, by establishing 3640 04:24:32,770 --> 04:24:33,491 our sharepoint environment. 3641 04:24:33,491 --> 04:24:36,675 this will expand our ability to 3642 04:24:36,675 --> 04:24:39,805 support asynchronous and synchronous collaboration across 3643 04:24:39,805 --> 04:24:41,222 employees teams, departments 3644 04:24:41,222 --> 04:24:41,748 and partner organizations. 3645 04:24:41,748 --> 04:24:44,223 thank you very much. 3646 04:24:44,223 --> 04:24:45,538 I will handed over to danielle 3647 04:24:45,538 --> 04:24:45,772 lappage. 3648 04:24:45,772 --> 04:24:53,344 >> thank you, worden. 3649 04:24:53,344 --> 04:24:55,218 through you to county council, 3650 04:24:55,218 --> 04:25:01,978 to strengthen the service delivery and meet increasing operational demands, the 2026 3651 04:25:01,978 --> 04:25:06,086 budget includes two new hr positions a shared human resource generalist to support 3652 04:25:06,086 --> 04:25:09,990 ems and sun parlor homes and a 3653 04:25:09,990 --> 04:25:13,596 human resources assistant to facilitate the implementation 3654 04:25:13,596 --> 04:25:16,211 and administration of the redesigned attendant support policy. 3655 04:25:16,211 --> 04:25:19,047 together, these additions will 3656 04:25:19,047 --> 04:25:20,774 enhance recruitment, compliance 3657 04:25:20,774 --> 04:25:22,975 and employee support across the 3658 04:25:22,975 --> 04:25:24,172 corporation helping to optimize 3659 04:25:24,172 --> 04:25:26,236 the potential of every employee 3660 04:25:26,236 --> 04:25:27,210 and ensure sustainable service 3661 04:25:27,210 --> 04:25:27,476 delivery. 3662 04:25:27,476 --> 04:25:39,931 this slide outlines hr's priorities for 2026 for collective bargaining in 2026, 3663 04:25:39,931 --> 04:25:43,051 hr will engage in collective bargaining with 5 of 6 union groups. 3664 04:25:43,051 --> 04:25:45,816 this will be a key area of focus 3665 04:25:45,816 --> 04:25:48,603  focus, particularly for the first half of the year. 3666 04:25:48,603 --> 04:25:51,244 our objective is to engage in 3667 04:25:51,244 --> 04:25:54,030 respectful collaborative negotiations that recognize the 3668 04:25:54,030 --> 04:25:55,559 valuable contributions of the 3669 04:25:55,559 --> 04:25:56,323 workforce while ensuring fiscal 3670 04:25:56,323 --> 04:25:56,574 sustainability. 3671 04:25:56,574 --> 04:26:02,648 building on the recruitment enhancements meet in 2025, hr 3672 04:26:02,648 --> 04:26:09,576 will continue to strengthen strategies that attract and retain diverse, skilled and motivated employees. 3673 04:26:09,576 --> 04:26:10,732 will refine onboarding processes 3674 04:26:10,732 --> 04:26:13,546  processes, that has the candidate experience and ensure 3675 04:26:13,546 --> 04:26:15,046 equity and accessibility at every stage. 3676 04:26:15,046 --> 04:26:16,722 in addition, we will continue 3677 04:26:16,722 --> 04:26:20,067 to assess compensation and benefit 3678 04:26:20,067 --> 04:26:22,046 offerings to maintain competitiveness in the labor market. 3679 04:26:22,046 --> 04:26:29,315 for employee development and training in 2026, we will continue to expand leadership 3680 04:26:29,315 --> 04:26:34,763 and professional development opportunities including the quarterly leadership meetings 3681 04:26:34,763 --> 04:26:36,224 to strengthen organizational capacity and support long-term 3682 04:26:36,224 --> 04:26:36,473 success. 3683 04:26:36,473 --> 04:26:42,165 in 2026, the implementation of 3684 04:26:42,165 --> 04:26:43,122 the refreshed attendance support 3685 04:26:43,122 --> 04:26:45,637 policy will be a major focus, 3686 04:26:45,637 --> 04:26:49,838 providing a proactive and supportive framework for addressing attendance concerns 3687 04:26:49,838 --> 04:26:51,277 and encouraging open communication between employees 3688 04:26:51,277 --> 04:26:51,764 and leaders. 3689 04:26:51,764 --> 04:26:56,373 a positive and inclusive culture 3690 04:26:56,373 --> 04:26:58,091 is a foundational to employee 3691 04:26:58,091 --> 04:26:58,590 engagement and retention. 3692 04:26:58,590 --> 04:27:04,328 building on a culture -- building on the culture conversations initiated in 2025, 3693 04:27:04,328 --> 04:27:06,925 hr will lead the next phase of 3694 04:27:06,925 --> 04:27:14,189 this work in 2026, expanding discussions countywide to reinforce shared values, expectations and daily practices 3695 04:27:14,189 --> 04:27:15,390 that contribute to a respectful 3696 04:27:15,390 --> 04:27:16,145 and collaborative workplace. 3697 04:27:16,145 --> 04:27:20,584 ensuring policies remain current 3698 04:27:20,584 --> 04:27:25,339  current, compliant and reflective of best practices will continue to be a key priority. 3699 04:27:25,339 --> 04:27:31,527 hr will continue to take systemic policy reviews and updates to align with the evolving legislation and county 3700 04:27:31,527 --> 04:27:31,779 operations. 3701 04:27:31,779 --> 04:27:37,309 following the successful implementation of the new human 3702 04:27:37,309 --> 04:27:38,283 resource information system in 3703 04:27:38,283 --> 04:27:42,125 2025 the 2026 focus includes 3704 04:27:42,125 --> 04:27:45,202 deploying the workforce management and scheduling module 3705 04:27:45,202 --> 04:27:47,469 to improve integration and enable data-driven insights for 3706 04:27:47,469 --> 04:27:47,957 workforce planning. 3707 04:27:47,957 --> 04:27:52,688 finally, from a health and safety and emergency management 3708 04:27:52,688 --> 04:27:54,353 perspective as the county grows 3709 04:27:54,353 --> 04:27:57,288  grows, hr will continue to strengthen its health and safety 3710 04:27:57,288 --> 04:27:59,191 and emergency programs to ensure 3711 04:27:59,191 --> 04:28:01,117 all workplaces meet or exceed 3712 04:28:01,117 --> 04:28:01,355 regulatory requirements. 3713 04:28:01,355 --> 04:28:03,471 we will have targeted training 3714 04:28:03,471 --> 04:28:09,352 , especially in emergency management and continue to promote a culture of shared responsibility for workplace safety. 3715 04:28:09,352 --> 04:28:11,233 with that, over to you. 3716 04:28:11,233 --> 04:28:19,958 >> that concludes the general 3717 04:28:19,958 --> 04:28:20,529  general government area. 3718 04:28:20,529 --> 04:28:22,372 if anyone has any questions for 3719 04:28:22,372 --> 04:28:25,493 any of the directors, please feel free to ask at this time. 3720 04:28:25,493 --> 04:28:27,236 >> thank you. 3721 04:28:27,236 --> 04:28:28,401 are there questions? 3722 04:28:28,401 --> 04:28:30,516 we start with councilor prue. 3723 04:28:30,516 --> 04:28:30,998 >> thank you. 3724 04:28:30,998 --> 04:28:32,824 I have two questions. 3725 04:28:32,824 --> 04:28:34,637 the first has to do with truth 3726 04:28:34,637 --> 04:28:35,156 and reconciliation. 3727 04:28:35,156 --> 04:28:37,865 I noticed that that was one of 3728 04:28:37,865 --> 04:28:39,358 the elements that's going to be 3729 04:28:39,358 --> 04:28:40,377 dealt with this year. 3730 04:28:40,377 --> 04:28:43,245 can you tell me with whom are 3731 04:28:43,245 --> 04:28:44,948 you going to deal in developing 3732 04:28:44,948 --> 04:28:45,784 this process? 3733 04:28:45,784 --> 04:28:49,253 I would take it probably caldwell first nations and may 3734 04:28:49,253 --> 04:28:50,102 be another. 3735 04:28:50,102 --> 04:28:52,905 is there anyone else on that list that will be first -- that 3736 04:28:52,905 --> 04:28:53,676 will be consulted? 3737 04:28:53,676 --> 04:28:59,626 >> we are -- it may have been 3738 04:28:59,626 --> 04:29:00,968 issued today or yesterday, an 3739 04:29:00,968 --> 04:29:02,705 rfp to find a consultant to assist us. 3740 04:29:02,705 --> 04:29:05,895 in advance of that, letters were 3741 04:29:05,895 --> 04:29:13,649 sent out to caldwell first  first nation and indigenous group at the university of windsor and they can then friendship centre so the three 3742 04:29:13,649 --> 04:29:17,768 local indigenous groups that we 3743 04:29:17,768 --> 04:29:21,479 are aware of have received letters from us, asking that they participate in the process 3744 04:29:21,479 --> 04:29:21,479 . 3745 04:29:21,479 --> 04:29:27,914 >> are there any other groups 3746 04:29:27,914 --> 04:29:29,137 that you may want to use? 3747 04:29:29,137 --> 04:29:32,749 I'm just thinking in terms of 3748 04:29:32,749 --> 04:29:35,041 some of the work that some of 3749 04:29:35,041 --> 04:29:35,291 them do. 3750 04:29:35,291 --> 04:29:36,957 there are groups out there that 3751 04:29:36,957 --> 04:29:37,976 you provide child care. 3752 04:29:37,976 --> 04:29:46,363 there out there that provide help for older people, for poverty reduction, for a number 3753 04:29:46,363 --> 04:29:47,807 of things that are aboriginal 3754 04:29:47,807 --> 04:29:47,807 base. 3755 04:29:47,807 --> 04:29:49,350 are you dealing with any of them 3756 04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:49,350  them? 3757 04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:53,713 >> I think the vision was, once 3758 04:29:53,713 --> 04:29:55,431 we have a consultant in place, 3759 04:29:55,431 --> 04:29:57,136 we will for grow two we should 3760 04:29:57,136 --> 04:29:58,403 be involving in the process. 3761 04:29:58,403 --> 04:29:59,507 we thought it was appropriate 3762 04:29:59,507 --> 04:30:01,157 to ensure that those in the region 3763 04:30:01,157 --> 04:30:04,794 who are recognized indigenous 3764 04:30:04,794 --> 04:30:09,379 groups should be advised in advance and that's why rewrote 3765 04:30:09,379 --> 04:30:12,109 to caldwell first nation and the 3766 04:30:12,109 --> 04:30:13,605 two other groups in the city. 3767 04:30:13,605 --> 04:30:18,522 >> are they going to advise on 3768 04:30:18,522 --> 04:30:19,978 the person to conduct the study 3769 04:30:19,978 --> 04:30:21,885 or are they part of the study? 3770 04:30:21,885 --> 04:30:27,750 >> they have been asked to participate in the process and 3771 04:30:27,750 --> 04:30:29,950 that the rfp was being issued. 3772 04:30:29,950 --> 04:30:31,259 >> that would be my question. 3773 04:30:31,259 --> 04:30:34,432 but I do have a question for someone else. 3774 04:30:34,432 --> 04:30:38,390 >> any other questions? 3775 04:30:38,390 --> 04:30:47,009 I will go to councilor rogers 3776 04:30:47,009 --> 04:30:48,283 and then come back to you. 3777 04:30:48,283 --> 04:30:50,116 >> may be a clarification piece 3778 04:30:50,116 --> 04:30:52,434 on the truth and reconciliation 3779 04:30:52,434 --> 04:30:52,434 . 3780 04:30:52,434 --> 04:30:59,312 I believe there are 21 steps within the municipality as far 3781 04:30:59,312 --> 04:31:02,032 as the road to truth and reconciliation. 3782 04:31:02,032 --> 04:31:07,242 maybe if you could comment on 3783 04:31:07,242 --> 04:31:08,742 that item, where we're at as far 3784 04:31:08,742 --> 04:31:09,496 as those steps. 3785 04:31:09,496 --> 04:31:13,542 I understand we want to be respectful and ensure we are taking those steps but there is 3786 04:31:13,542 --> 04:31:15,810 a booklet that says what municipalities should be doing 3787 04:31:15,810 --> 04:31:15,810 . 3788 04:31:15,810 --> 04:31:18,370 if we are not doing those items 3789 04:31:18,370 --> 04:31:21,636 first, to me it doesn't make sense to reach out and find more 3790 04:31:21,636 --> 04:31:23,737 items that we should be doing 3791 04:31:23,737 --> 04:31:24,473 before something that's actually 3792 04:31:24,473 --> 04:31:26,234 been documented for us to do first. 3793 04:31:26,234 --> 04:31:32,342 >> we have limited capabilities 3794 04:31:32,342 --> 04:31:35,268 here at this stage to know what 3795 04:31:35,268 --> 04:31:36,751 we should be doing going forward 3796 04:31:36,751 --> 04:31:36,751  forward. 3797 04:31:36,751 --> 04:31:38,023 that's the purpose of bringing 3798 04:31:38,023 --> 04:31:41,084 in a consultant to say what should the county be doing? 3799 04:31:41,084 --> 04:31:42,379 this year, for example, I'm not 3800 04:31:42,379 --> 04:31:45,237 sure when we started the process 3801 04:31:45,237 --> 04:31:48,192 but we do land to him -- land 3802 04:31:48,192 --> 04:31:49,238 acknowledgements at council meetings. 3803 04:31:49,238 --> 04:31:53,117 we ensure truth and reconciliation day that there 3804 04:31:53,117 --> 04:31:55,477 is an event here at the county to 3805 04:31:55,477 --> 04:31:56,011 recognize that. 3806 04:31:56,011 --> 04:31:57,549 we are doing what we can do. 3807 04:31:57,549 --> 04:32:00,509 but now we are going to come up 3808 04:32:00,509 --> 04:32:03,428 to a fulsome plan specific to 3809 04:32:03,428 --> 04:32:04,927 the county with our local indigenous partners. 3810 04:32:04,927 --> 04:32:11,357 >> further three you, madame worden we are using that book 3811 04:32:11,357 --> 04:32:14,001 for reference, and again I think 3812 04:32:14,001 --> 04:32:15,833 it's 21 items, 20 items. 3813 04:32:15,833 --> 04:32:17,183 you mentioned a couple of them 3814 04:32:17,183 --> 04:32:19,608 but there were more items there 3815 04:32:19,608 --> 04:32:19,608 . 3816 04:32:19,608 --> 04:32:23,149 so my question is is that's going to be a consultant going 3817 04:32:23,149 --> 04:32:24,798 to tell us the other items that 3818 04:32:24,798 --> 04:32:26,595 have to be done when we already 3819 04:32:26,595 --> 04:32:27,469 have the information. 3820 04:32:27,469 --> 04:32:29,098 my point is we have information 3821 04:32:29,098 --> 04:32:32,436 , we haven't may be completed anything on that list. 3822 04:32:32,436 --> 04:32:34,037 what's the point of bringing in 3823 04:32:34,037 --> 04:32:35,302 another consultant when there 3824 04:32:35,302 --> 04:32:36,633 is still work to be done? 3825 04:32:36,633 --> 04:32:38,441 maybe it's a question for the 3826 04:32:38,441 --> 04:32:38,441 cao? 3827 04:32:38,441 --> 04:32:45,177 >> the rfp we have is to develop 3828 04:32:45,177 --> 04:32:46,476 truth and reconciliation action 3829 04:32:46,476 --> 04:32:46,726 plan. 3830 04:32:46,726 --> 04:32:49,807 the foundation of that action 3831 04:32:49,807 --> 04:32:51,695 plan are those directed steps 3832 04:32:51,695 --> 04:32:52,964 that municipalities across the 3833 04:32:52,964 --> 04:32:54,544 province are required to engage 3834 04:32:54,544 --> 04:32:55,013 in. 3835 04:32:55,013 --> 04:32:56,632 the consultant is going to take 3836 04:32:56,632 --> 04:32:58,351 an inventory of the things we 3837 04:32:58,351 --> 04:32:59,589 are already doing and see what 3838 04:32:59,589 --> 04:33:03,552 boxes we are achieving and highlight for us to things that 3839 04:33:03,552 --> 04:33:05,295 we are falling short on or build 3840 04:33:05,295 --> 04:33:08,590 us a plan in both short and long-term of how the county can 3841 04:33:08,590 --> 04:33:12,797 move toward full compliance with 3842 04:33:12,797 --> 04:33:14,258 those directions and steps as 3843 04:33:14,258 --> 04:33:16,677 the director said, it's going 3844 04:33:16,677 --> 04:33:19,840 to be specific to the county of essex and the work that we do 3845 04:33:19,840 --> 04:33:20,814 here at the minister polity. 3846 04:33:20,814 --> 04:33:25,307 but also, the summer, we had representatives from amo come 3847 04:33:25,307 --> 04:33:26,395 because as an organization, they 3848 04:33:26,395 --> 04:33:28,073 have also undertaken this work 3849 04:33:28,073 --> 04:33:28,073 . 3850 04:33:28,073 --> 04:33:30,189 we wanted to make sure that our 3851 04:33:30,189 --> 04:33:32,021 rfp was informed by the work of 3852 04:33:32,021 --> 04:33:34,224 amo that we are not duplicating 3853 04:33:34,224 --> 04:33:35,082 things as well. 3854 04:33:35,082 --> 04:33:38,740 so certainly to your point, there are a number of foundational pieces we need to 3855 04:33:38,740 --> 04:33:39,007 consider. 3856 04:33:39,007 --> 04:33:42,226 the scope of the work for the 3857 04:33:42,226 --> 04:33:43,779 rfp for the consultant asked the 3858 04:33:43,779 --> 04:33:46,246 consultant to look at those foundational pieces in light of 3859 04:33:46,246 --> 04:33:49,181 what we are currently doing, where we have gaps and help us 3860 04:33:49,181 --> 04:33:51,966 build a plan to action ourselves 3861 04:33:51,966 --> 04:33:53,159 towards compliance on both the 3862 04:33:53,159 --> 04:33:54,133 short and long-term basis. 3863 04:33:54,133 --> 04:33:58,449 >> may be final, I appreciate 3864 04:33:58,449 --> 04:34:00,065 that I want to make sure, there 3865 04:34:00,065 --> 04:34:01,774 have been steps put out there 3866 04:34:01,774 --> 04:34:03,246 for us to follow and they want 3867 04:34:03,246 --> 04:34:05,258 to make sure that that is the 3868 04:34:05,258 --> 04:34:06,494 guidebook and the path that we 3869 04:34:06,494 --> 04:34:07,263 are following moving forward. 3870 04:34:07,263 --> 04:34:07,709 so thank you. 3871 04:34:07,709 --> 04:34:08,101 >> thank you. 3872 04:34:08,101 --> 04:34:13,169 councilor waldstedt. 3873 04:34:13,169 --> 04:34:15,846 >> a couple of things. 3874 04:34:15,846 --> 04:34:17,362 the first is on the same topic 3875 04:34:17,362 --> 04:34:17,362 . 3876 04:34:17,362 --> 04:34:20,608 if everything is laid out by the 3877 04:34:20,608 --> 04:34:22,621 province of the federal government with respect to this 3878 04:34:22,621 --> 04:34:32,006 issue and I see we are budgeting $226, 226,000 to tell 3879 04:34:32,006 --> 04:34:36,262 us to go over it and double check it to see if we are doing 3880 04:34:36,262 --> 04:34:37,016 everything we should. 3881 04:34:37,016 --> 04:34:39,514 is that not all laid out for us 3882 04:34:39,514 --> 04:34:39,765 already? 3883 04:34:39,765 --> 04:34:42,067 I don't know why we would spend 3884 04:34:42,067 --> 04:34:43,556 a quarter of $1 million to have 3885 04:34:43,556 --> 04:34:44,577 a consultant tell us. 3886 04:34:44,577 --> 04:34:51,016 we have people in charge of these programs that know what 3887 04:34:51,016 --> 04:34:53,221 we are doing and we are meeting the 3888 04:34:53,221 --> 04:34:54,207 requirements of the legislation 3889 04:34:54,207 --> 04:34:56,998 in the policy at the federal and 3890 04:34:56,998 --> 04:34:57,608 provincial level. 3891 04:34:57,608 --> 04:34:59,550 why would we spend a quarter of 3892 04:34:59,550 --> 04:35:02,505 a million dollars to have somebody look at it to tell us 3893 04:35:02,505 --> 04:35:05,672 what we already know and why would we go beyond what we are 3894 04:35:05,672 --> 04:35:07,173 asked to do in any event? 3895 04:35:07,173 --> 04:35:21,399 >> just to clarify within the 3896 04:35:21,399 --> 04:35:23,529 budget and I'm not sure what's 3897 04:35:23,529 --> 04:35:25,200 mine is being referred to right 3898 04:35:25,200 --> 04:35:28,627 now but 75,000 has been put in 3899 04:35:28,627 --> 04:35:30,825 for truth and reconciliation consultant and $30,000 has been 3900 04:35:30,825 --> 04:35:34,690 in sort -- inserted for our record management review that 3901 04:35:34,690 --> 04:35:35,906 I spoke about in my presentation 3902 04:35:35,906 --> 04:35:35,906 . 3903 04:35:35,906 --> 04:35:38,149 >> further? 3904 04:35:38,149 --> 04:35:42,865 >> my question remains the same 3905 04:35:42,865 --> 04:35:42,865 . 3906 04:35:42,865 --> 04:35:44,747 the amount hasn't change, soria 3907 04:35:44,747 --> 04:35:46,226 had the wrong line item. 3908 04:35:46,226 --> 04:35:47,213 70,000 instead of 226? 3909 04:35:47,213 --> 04:35:50,979 that's what I hear. 3910 04:35:50,979 --> 04:35:56,089 any comments on my concern with 3911 04:35:56,089 --> 04:36:00,163 respect to having an outside individual tell us? 3912 04:36:00,163 --> 04:36:05,170 I don't know for sure but if it's in black and white in front 3913 04:36:05,170 --> 04:36:07,157 of us, I don't know if we need 3914 04:36:07,157 --> 04:36:08,924 someone to tell us what that means. 3915 04:36:08,924 --> 04:36:14,297 >> I'm going to look to our finance friends to help confirm 3916 04:36:14,297 --> 04:36:14,811 my understanding. 3917 04:36:14,811 --> 04:36:18,263 the rfp we have just released 3918 04:36:18,263 --> 04:36:22,590 in 2025 was based on a project approved in the 2025 budget. 3919 04:36:22,590 --> 04:36:27,095 we have already approved the funds to seek a consultant. 3920 04:36:27,095 --> 04:36:30,365 admittedly, it is late in the 3921 04:36:30,365 --> 04:36:30,365 air. 3922 04:36:30,365 --> 04:36:32,309 we hope to get this project off 3923 04:36:32,309 --> 04:36:33,549 the ground earlier in 2025. 3924 04:36:33,549 --> 04:36:36,135 knowing that amo was working on 3925 04:36:36,135 --> 04:36:40,957 their process, we wanted to inform our rfp scope so we weren't duplicating effort. 3926 04:36:40,957 --> 04:36:44,699 my understanding is the budget 3927 04:36:44,699 --> 04:36:45,969 funds for the consultant's work 3928 04:36:45,969 --> 04:36:48,574 has already been approved in 2025. 3929 04:36:48,574 --> 04:36:50,804 we have an rfp out right now. 3930 04:36:50,804 --> 04:36:52,371 we hope to secure the consultant 3931 04:36:52,371 --> 04:36:54,113 before the end of the year and 3932 04:36:54,113 --> 04:36:55,941 the work will proceed in 2026. 3933 04:36:55,941 --> 04:36:57,026 perhaps most can clarify that. 3934 04:36:57,026 --> 04:36:59,404 >> yes, that is correct. 3935 04:36:59,404 --> 04:37:00,449 that was a 2025 initiative. 3936 04:37:00,449 --> 04:37:06,933 the rfp is coming out at the end 3937 04:37:06,933 --> 04:37:08,950 of the year but we do -- we did 3938 04:37:08,950 --> 04:37:10,455 have that approved in the 2025 3939 04:37:10,455 --> 04:37:10,673 budget. 3940 04:37:10,673 --> 04:37:12,732 >> thank you. 3941 04:37:12,732 --> 04:37:16,902 so it is still at 70,000? 3942 04:37:16,902 --> 04:37:17,950 or are we adding it? 3943 04:37:17,950 --> 04:37:20,763 was approved in 2025, why's 3944 04:37:20,763 --> 04:37:22,535 it back in the budget again this 3945 04:37:22,535 --> 04:37:22,787 year? 3946 04:37:22,787 --> 04:37:23,636 what am I missing? 3947 04:37:23,636 --> 04:37:31,314 >> I recall it being 50. 3948 04:37:31,314 --> 04:37:33,403 it's a little convoluted because 3949 04:37:33,403 --> 04:37:35,954 that line includes other consultant costs we can get the 3950 04:37:35,954 --> 04:37:38,057 exact figure but I believe we 3951 04:37:38,057 --> 04:37:42,587 did have 50,000 earmarked in 2025 for those costs and we will 3952 04:37:42,587 --> 04:37:47,156 confirm what the consultant costs are for 2026 and what does 3953 04:37:47,156 --> 04:37:47,668 exactly where. 3954 04:37:47,668 --> 04:37:55,704 I do remember there being potentially initiatives that came out of what the rfp advised 3955 04:37:55,704 --> 04:37:56,458 us to do. 3956 04:37:56,458 --> 04:37:59,992 we were trying to locate daughter -- locate dollars but 3957 04:37:59,992 --> 04:38:01,743 I will confirm that with what's 3958 04:38:01,743 --> 04:38:01,776 in the budget. 3959 04:38:01,776 --> 04:38:09,181 >> my other concern is I guess 3960 04:38:09,181 --> 04:38:14,050 on page 122 of the budget, I see 3961 04:38:14,050 --> 04:38:15,270 salaries for county council salaries. 3962 04:38:15,270 --> 04:38:19,004 it goes from 518 to 538. 3963 04:38:19,004 --> 04:38:19,998 what percentage is that? 3964 04:38:19,998 --> 04:38:23,132 a 2% increase or what is the actual percentage? 3965 04:38:23,132 --> 04:38:27,357 >> that would be 2.5%. 3966 04:38:27,357 --> 04:38:27,932 >> thank you. 3967 04:38:27,932 --> 04:38:35,923 I'm just concerned, madame warden with respect -- I know 3968 04:38:35,923 --> 04:38:39,128 we've been going through the budget and we've cut some things 3969 04:38:39,128 --> 04:38:41,658 out to try to keep it at a reasonable level. 3970 04:38:41,658 --> 04:38:44,373 but the canadian economy isn't 3971 04:38:44,373 --> 04:38:45,777 good at all. 3972 04:38:45,777 --> 04:38:48,563 we have 11% unemployment rate 3973 04:38:48,563 --> 04:38:49,909 in windsor-essex county, which I 3974 04:38:49,909 --> 04:38:51,185 understand is the highest in canada. 3975 04:38:51,185 --> 04:38:53,799 I just don't think it is proper 3976 04:38:53,799 --> 04:38:59,061 for us -- we talk about social  social service requirement and 3977 04:38:59,061 --> 04:39:00,328 housing and everything else and 3978 04:39:00,328 --> 04:39:05,522 I know it's probably in line with what would be -- what we've 3979 04:39:05,522 --> 04:39:11,499 been giving through union agreements but we need to be responsible and I know it's not 3980 04:39:11,499 --> 04:39:12,501 a lot of money. 3981 04:39:12,501 --> 04:39:13,770 it's about $20,000 but I think 3982 04:39:13,770 --> 04:39:17,180 it's important that we show some 3983 04:39:17,180 --> 04:39:18,435 leadership with respect to that 3984 04:39:18,435 --> 04:39:18,435 . 3985 04:39:18,435 --> 04:39:19,730 I am not in favour of increasing 3986 04:39:19,730 --> 04:39:23,594 wages by 2.5% for this year. 3987 04:39:23,594 --> 04:39:29,608 I know that arguments can be made that if we do this, we do 3988 04:39:29,608 --> 04:39:35,832 this constantly and we are falling behind but every few years council seems to have a 3989 04:39:35,832 --> 04:39:42,389 study done in any event that takes a look at it and inevitably it increases in some 3990 04:39:42,389 --> 04:39:43,776 way shape or fashion. 3991 04:39:43,776 --> 04:39:45,547 but that is for future councils 3992 04:39:45,547 --> 04:39:46,066 to decide. 3993 04:39:46,066 --> 04:39:49,043 why am not in favour of that. 3994 04:39:49,043 --> 04:39:51,336 I won't support this part of the 3995 04:39:51,336 --> 04:39:53,028 budget unless there is some way 3996 04:39:53,028 --> 04:40:05,054 of pulling that item out and dealing with it separate or dealing with the motion to approve it but not increasing 3997 04:40:05,054 --> 04:40:06,050 the salaries and indemnities for 3998 04:40:06,050 --> 04:40:06,300 council. 3999 04:40:06,300 --> 04:40:08,133 >> thank you. 4000 04:40:08,133 --> 04:40:12,418 councilor deyong. 4001 04:40:12,418 --> 04:40:15,633 >> I have a question on the council services budget. 4002 04:40:15,633 --> 04:40:21,327 meeting expenses have been pretty steady and then it triples this year. 4003 04:40:21,327 --> 04:40:22,383 I'm wondering what they expected 4004 04:40:22,383 --> 04:40:25,908 -- what that line is? 4005 04:40:25,908 --> 04:40:27,947 line 2110. 4006 04:40:27,947 --> 04:40:32,497 >> I will start as david continues to look. 4007 04:40:32,497 --> 04:40:36,391 in 2026, it will be an election 4008 04:40:36,391 --> 04:40:36,641 year. 4009 04:40:36,641 --> 04:40:38,219 so what we were finding when we 4010 04:40:38,219 --> 04:40:39,719 were going through the budget 4011 04:40:39,719 --> 04:40:44,808 is that we weren't allocating enough to reserves for those meetings every year. 4012 04:40:44,808 --> 04:40:49,360 I know there's the wardens luncheon and stuff like that that happens once every four years. 4013 04:40:49,360 --> 04:40:51,191 you will definitely see a spike 4014 04:40:51,191 --> 04:40:54,300 in there because of those reasons as well as some other 4015 04:40:54,300 --> 04:40:56,834 items related to it being an election year. 4016 04:40:56,834 --> 04:41:03,876 >> just to clarify, there is no 4017 04:41:03,876 --> 04:41:04,993 actual election activity expense 4018 04:41:04,993 --> 04:41:07,146 that the county incurs, or is 4019 04:41:07,146 --> 04:41:07,146 there? 4020 04:41:07,146 --> 04:41:10,267 you are talking about the outcome of the election and the 4021 04:41:10,267 --> 04:41:12,838 new council and whatever is involved with onboarding the new 4022 04:41:12,838 --> 04:41:14,276 council but is there an election 4023 04:41:14,276 --> 04:41:15,013 expense as well? 4024 04:41:15,013 --> 04:41:21,033 >> yes, and no. 4025 04:41:21,033 --> 04:41:26,153 they know being we are not involved in the elections but 4026 04:41:26,153 --> 04:41:32,669 there always is an annual -- every four years there is a dinner, organizing the former 4027 04:41:32,669 --> 04:41:35,895 -- we do that. 4028 04:41:35,895 --> 04:41:39,355 going forward, we want to level 4029 04:41:39,355 --> 04:41:43,151 this off so there's a little money put aside each year so you 4030 04:41:43,151 --> 04:41:44,907 don't see huge spikes in election years. 4031 04:41:44,907 --> 04:41:52,144 >> councilor bondy. 4032 04:41:52,144 --> 04:41:55,015 >> thank you. 4033 04:41:55,015 --> 04:41:57,076 a couple of comments already out 4034 04:41:57,076 --> 04:42:05,755 there the wardens outgoing dinner that has never been considered to be a ticketed event. 4035 04:42:05,755 --> 04:42:07,325 from what I remember, it is not 4036 04:42:07,325 --> 04:42:07,574 ticketed. 4037 04:42:07,574 --> 04:42:10,326 the people that get invited don't have to pay anything. 4038 04:42:10,326 --> 04:42:14,268 rather than doing maintenance 4039 04:42:14,268 --> 04:42:15,799 on the wages, I would rather look 4040 04:42:15,799 --> 04:42:18,703 at that -- like I would buy my 4041 04:42:18,703 --> 04:42:18,953 ticket. 4042 04:42:18,953 --> 04:42:20,301 has that ever been looked at? 4043 04:42:20,301 --> 04:42:23,593 >> it is a ticketed events. 4044 04:42:23,593 --> 04:42:25,547 I don't recall the amount of the 4045 04:42:25,547 --> 04:42:26,809 tickets but it is ticketed. 4046 04:42:26,809 --> 04:42:28,185 $125 per ticket. 4047 04:42:28,185 --> 04:42:34,192 >> thank you. 4048 04:42:34,192 --> 04:42:36,357 I don't think I've ever paid for 4049 04:42:36,357 --> 04:42:36,608 it. 4050 04:42:36,608 --> 04:42:37,936 my local must pay for it. 4051 04:42:37,936 --> 04:42:40,363 I don't think we have. 4052 04:42:40,363 --> 04:42:40,924 I don't know. 4053 04:42:40,924 --> 04:42:43,423 I look -- I could be wrong. 4054 04:42:43,423 --> 04:42:45,210 I look forward to paying for it 4055 04:42:45,210 --> 04:42:45,708 this year. 4056 04:42:45,708 --> 04:42:47,346 I will support if someone makes 4057 04:42:47,346 --> 04:42:49,340 a motion or I can make a motion 4058 04:42:49,340 --> 04:42:51,325 , I will support the budget as presented. 4059 04:42:51,325 --> 04:42:54,245 I don't believe that we should 4060 04:42:54,245 --> 04:43:00,732 pull out the maintenance on county councillors salaries because that is what got us so 4061 04:43:00,732 --> 04:43:03,263 far behind, was not doing maintenance on the salaries. 4062 04:43:03,263 --> 04:43:04,833 so I don't want to go backwards 4063 04:43:04,833 --> 04:43:05,334 on that. 4064 04:43:05,334 --> 04:43:09,021 I think it is responsible for 4065 04:43:09,021 --> 04:43:11,417 us to keep the maintenance in there 4066 04:43:11,417 --> 04:43:12,486  there, just like everything. 4067 04:43:12,486 --> 04:43:13,894 the reason why we were targeted 4068 04:43:13,894 --> 04:43:17,210 this term, some of us, was because there was no responsible 4069 04:43:17,210 --> 04:43:18,206 maintenance in the future. 4070 04:43:18,206 --> 04:43:21,739 whether we make a motion that 4071 04:43:21,739 --> 04:43:23,578 we receive this or pull it out, I'm 4072 04:43:23,578 --> 04:43:25,364 willing to make the motion that 4073 04:43:25,364 --> 04:43:26,342 we do it all. 4074 04:43:26,342 --> 04:43:32,641 >> I just want to get a line of 4075 04:43:32,641 --> 04:43:33,109 established year. 4076 04:43:33,109 --> 04:43:35,388 the first to speak are going to 4077 04:43:35,388 --> 04:43:35,889 have preference. 4078 04:43:35,889 --> 04:43:39,987 then I will come back to councilor prue and then councilor deyong. 4079 04:43:39,987 --> 04:43:40,297 councilor akpata. 4080 04:43:40,297 --> 04:43:40,636 >> thank you. 4081 04:43:40,636 --> 04:43:43,587 to the director of I.t., a quick 4082 04:43:43,587 --> 04:43:48,199 question on the end of support 4083 04:43:48,199 --> 04:43:49,620 for the windows 10 solution. 4084 04:43:49,620 --> 04:43:50,681 have we transition completely? 4085 04:43:50,681 --> 04:43:52,345 we don't have machines tucked 4086 04:43:52,345 --> 04:43:53,325 in corners running it? 4087 04:43:53,325 --> 04:43:55,182 just want to make sure we're in 4088 04:43:55,182 --> 04:43:56,907 the proper cyberspace that we 4089 04:43:56,907 --> 04:43:57,406 need to be. 4090 04:43:57,406 --> 04:43:58,965 >> we do have some machines left 4091 04:43:58,965 --> 04:44:00,213 in the environment with windows 4092 04:44:00,213 --> 04:44:01,550  windows 10. 4093 04:44:01,550 --> 04:44:05,371 they support systems that are 4094 04:44:05,371 --> 04:44:07,640 third party proprietary and cannot be updated at this time 4095 04:44:07,640 --> 04:44:07,640 . 4096 04:44:07,640 --> 04:44:11,176 we are taking extra diligence 4097 04:44:11,176 --> 04:44:12,927 to make sure that every patch that 4098 04:44:12,927 --> 04:44:15,029 we can apply to those is applied 4099 04:44:15,029 --> 04:44:17,381 and we are working with our mdr 4100 04:44:17,381 --> 04:44:19,658 service provider to ensure those 4101 04:44:19,658 --> 04:44:22,078 systems are specifically monitored as well because they 4102 04:44:22,078 --> 04:44:23,604 are still machines. 4103 04:44:23,604 --> 04:44:31,775 >> a supplemental, I want to make sure that I understand the 4104 04:44:31,775 --> 04:44:33,857 machines running windows 10 aren't running any critical -- 4105 04:44:33,857 --> 04:44:35,813 without breaching security, I 4106 04:44:35,813 --> 04:44:37,062 would assume were not running 4107 04:44:37,062 --> 04:44:38,560 critical for structure or anything like that. 4108 04:44:38,560 --> 04:44:41,432 you've got them walled off so 4109 04:44:41,432 --> 04:44:42,838 should something happen, you are 4110 04:44:42,838 --> 04:44:45,160 able to mitigate what may happen 4111 04:44:45,160 --> 04:44:46,477 with running old software. 4112 04:44:46,477 --> 04:44:48,478 >> that is a good assumption. 4113 04:44:48,478 --> 04:44:49,276 >> thank you, madame warden. 4114 04:44:49,276 --> 04:44:50,997 >> thank you. 4115 04:44:50,997 --> 04:44:51,523 no other questions? 4116 04:44:51,523 --> 04:44:57,386 I will come back to councilor 4117 04:44:57,386 --> 04:44:57,386 prue. 4118 04:44:57,386 --> 04:44:59,757 >> thank you, madame warden. 4119 04:44:59,757 --> 04:45:01,044 my other question relates to the 4120 04:45:01,044 --> 04:45:01,548 credit rating. 4121 04:45:01,548 --> 04:45:04,238 I remember if it wasn't laughter 4122 04:45:04,238 --> 04:45:06,485  laughter, may be the year before 4123 04:45:06,485 --> 04:45:09,371  before, there was quite a spirited debate about a credit 4124 04:45:09,371 --> 04:45:10,153 rating. 4125 04:45:10,153 --> 04:45:13,206 I remember speaking against it 4126 04:45:13,206 --> 04:45:14,456 and everyone voted to continue 4127 04:45:14,456 --> 04:45:15,796 with the credit rating. 4128 04:45:15,796 --> 04:45:19,279 all of a sudden, we have a motion that we don't need it anymore. 4129 04:45:19,279 --> 04:45:21,042 can you tell me what the change 4130 04:45:21,042 --> 04:45:22,511 has been during that period? 4131 04:45:22,511 --> 04:45:23,805 I agree we don't need it. 4132 04:45:23,805 --> 04:45:25,531 we didn't need it then either. 4133 04:45:25,531 --> 04:45:27,357 but why now are you saying we 4134 04:45:27,357 --> 04:45:27,857 don't need it? 4135 04:45:27,857 --> 04:45:32,314 >> the conversation was had in 4136 04:45:32,314 --> 04:45:37,432 2025 when I did a thorough analysis of what it means to actually get this done and what 4137 04:45:37,432 --> 04:45:38,934 the consensus was at that time 4138 04:45:38,934 --> 04:45:40,424 was it would be deliberated at 4139 04:45:40,424 --> 04:45:40,925 budget time. 4140 04:45:40,925 --> 04:45:43,719 we didn't include it in the budget right now. 4141 04:45:43,719 --> 04:45:45,266 however, if you choose to put 4142 04:45:45,266 --> 04:45:48,289 it back in the budget, it's $28,000 4143 04:45:48,289 --> 04:45:50,624 that there is the opportunity 4144 04:45:50,624 --> 04:45:51,124 to do that. 4145 04:45:51,124 --> 04:45:53,277 there wasn't consensus, it was 4146 04:45:53,277 --> 04:45:58,441 more or less deliberated at budget time because we had already approved $2025, and the 4147 04:45:58,441 --> 04:45:59,468 exercise happened in october of 4148 04:45:59,468 --> 04:45:59,960 every year. 4149 04:45:59,960 --> 04:46:05,882 I think it was, we are ready approved the budget or the credit rating in 2025 and then 4150 04:46:05,882 --> 04:46:07,153 we will deliberated for 2026. 4151 04:46:07,153 --> 04:46:10,669 >> why did you take it out of 4152 04:46:10,669 --> 04:46:10,917 the budget? 4153 04:46:10,917 --> 04:46:13,607 >> based on council direction 4154 04:46:13,607 --> 04:46:17,375 to that at or below inflation, we 4155 04:46:17,375 --> 04:46:19,039 chose -- administration chose 4156 04:46:19,039 --> 04:46:19,791 to take it out. 4157 04:46:19,791 --> 04:46:22,406 but obviously there is an opportunity to still put it back 4158 04:46:22,406 --> 04:46:22,658 in. 4159 04:46:22,658 --> 04:46:24,430 >> but you took it out because 4160 04:46:24,430 --> 04:46:25,922 you didn't think it was necessary. 4161 04:46:25,922 --> 04:46:28,606 it's not something that is really required? 4162 04:46:28,606 --> 04:46:32,858 >> it is up for council debate 4163 04:46:32,858 --> 04:46:32,858 . 4164 04:46:32,858 --> 04:46:36,427 I guess when we are looking at 4165 04:46:36,427 --> 04:46:37,911 the priorities, it wasn't the 4166 04:46:37,911 --> 04:46:39,196 highest priority so we did leave 4167 04:46:39,196 --> 04:46:39,713 it out. 4168 04:46:39,713 --> 04:46:41,323 >> okay. 4169 04:46:41,323 --> 04:46:44,991 thank you for that. 4170 04:46:44,991 --> 04:46:46,809 just as a comment to the other 4171 04:46:46,809 --> 04:46:49,241 thing I was 1 of 3 who did not 4172 04:46:49,241 --> 04:46:52,784 vote for the increase in salaries and I do not feel that 4173 04:46:52,784 --> 04:46:57,213 I can vote for a 2.5% increase 4174 04:46:57,213 --> 04:46:59,291 on a salary increase I did not 4175 04:46:59,291 --> 04:47:00,522 approve in the first place. 4176 04:47:00,522 --> 04:47:02,375 so I will be joining councilor 4177 04:47:02,375 --> 04:47:03,980 waldstedt if that comes up. 4178 04:47:03,980 --> 04:47:04,053 thank you. 4179 04:47:04,053 --> 04:47:07,471 >> thank you. 4180 04:47:07,471 --> 04:47:07,882 councilor deyong. 4181 04:47:07,882 --> 04:47:08,204 >> thank you. 4182 04:47:08,204 --> 04:47:12,226 there are so many different budgets and I had my questions 4183 04:47:12,226 --> 04:47:12,964 in a row. 4184 04:47:12,964 --> 04:47:14,277 I wanted to get clarification. 4185 04:47:14,277 --> 04:47:17,746 I think it was the financial services budget you talked about 4186 04:47:17,746 --> 04:47:17,746  about. 4187 04:47:17,746 --> 04:47:19,069 I think it's a million dollars 4188 04:47:19,069 --> 04:47:21,758 of the financial services budget 4189 04:47:21,758 --> 04:47:22,509 going toward ems. 4190 04:47:22,509 --> 04:47:24,641 I wanted to make sure I heard 4191 04:47:24,641 --> 04:47:24,910 that clearly. 4192 04:47:24,910 --> 04:47:26,465 there's a lot of talk around ems 4193 04:47:26,465 --> 04:47:28,267 today but it's under financial 4194 04:47:28,267 --> 04:47:29,516 services budget going to reserve 4195 04:47:29,516 --> 04:47:31,287 for the spoke building. 4196 04:47:31,287 --> 04:47:32,685 is that what I understand? 4197 04:47:32,685 --> 04:47:33,070 >> correct. 4198 04:47:33,070 --> 04:47:35,578 finance houses the land so we 4199 04:47:35,578 --> 04:47:37,179 would own the land and the building. 4200 04:47:37,179 --> 04:47:42,051 so we have that under the finance budget but it is for ems 4201 04:47:42,051 --> 04:47:42,302 capital. 4202 04:47:42,302 --> 04:47:42,609 >> thank you. 4203 04:47:42,609 --> 04:47:43,906 and back to mr. Sunday and, you 4204 04:47:43,906 --> 04:47:47,539 talked about appendix three and 4205 04:47:47,539 --> 04:47:50,991 I wanted to give you an opportunity I'm looking specifically 4206 04:47:50,991 --> 04:47:53,811 at 19 and 20 and I wonder if they go together. 4207 04:47:53,811 --> 04:47:56,978 19 is reserve funded so I don't 4208 04:47:56,978 --> 04:47:58,904 understand why we would do that 4209 04:47:58,904 --> 04:47:58,904 . 4210 04:47:58,904 --> 04:48:01,260 I'm guessing maybe it is only 4211 04:48:01,260 --> 04:48:02,263 possible if we do 20? 4212 04:48:02,263 --> 04:48:06,017 >> yes, number 19 and 20 are the 4213 04:48:06,017 --> 04:48:08,317 two are referred to in my presentation. 4214 04:48:08,317 --> 04:48:09,835 19 observe funded in order to 4215 04:48:09,835 --> 04:48:10,822 make improvements to a room in 4216 04:48:10,822 --> 04:48:11,326 the basement. 4217 04:48:11,326 --> 04:48:15,137 records management is managed 4218 04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:18,617 by the deputy clerk, who follows 4219 04:48:18,617 --> 04:48:20,263 -- who falls within my department 4220 04:48:20,263 --> 04:48:20,263 . 4221 04:48:20,263 --> 04:48:22,125 we have records that are kind 4222 04:48:22,125 --> 04:48:23,097 of everywhere across the county. 4223 04:48:23,097 --> 04:48:25,599 we're trying to get to the point 4224 04:48:25,599 --> 04:48:28,038 where records are eventually digitized to the extent possible 4225 04:48:28,038 --> 04:48:28,038  possible. 4226 04:48:28,038 --> 04:48:29,866 those that have to be stored in 4227 04:48:29,866 --> 04:48:31,770 long-term are in one locked and 4228 04:48:31,770 --> 04:48:32,270 secure location. 4229 04:48:32,270 --> 04:48:33,996 that's what we are working toward. 4230 04:48:33,996 --> 04:48:35,353 the ideal being the description 4231 04:48:35,353 --> 04:48:38,246 that's in -- within the appendix 4232 04:48:38,246 --> 04:48:40,430 three is to say we need to get 4233 04:48:40,430 --> 04:48:41,910 this room ready to receive those 4234 04:48:41,910 --> 04:48:47,426 records somewhat timely, if there's going to be renovations 4235 04:48:47,426 --> 04:48:51,493 in the basement or library, perhaps it's a good time to consolidate everything in one 4236 04:48:51,493 --> 04:48:51,493 room. 4237 04:48:51,493 --> 04:48:52,822 I was speaking with my staff at 4238 04:48:52,822 --> 04:48:57,590 the break, if you had to pick 4239 04:48:57,590 --> 04:49:00,378 one of these two, we would prefer 19 over 20. 4240 04:49:00,378 --> 04:49:07,689 ideally both, we not both at some point but if it's one or 4241 04:49:07,689 --> 04:49:09,194 the other, the records arm is 4242 04:49:09,194 --> 04:49:09,461 the preference. 4243 04:49:09,461 --> 04:49:14,834 >> I don't understand if it's 4244 04:49:14,834 --> 04:49:16,101 reserve funded, ryoal would require council? 4245 04:49:16,101 --> 04:49:19,754 you are talking about pulling 4246 04:49:19,754 --> 04:49:20,002 from reserves. 4247 04:49:20,002 --> 04:49:20,847 am I missing something? 4248 04:49:20,847 --> 04:49:21,914 why would you do that? 4249 04:49:21,914 --> 04:49:27,450 >> as I alluded to in the budget 4250 04:49:27,450 --> 04:49:28,565 overview reserves are important 4251 04:49:28,565 --> 04:49:29,583 for us to have. 4252 04:49:29,583 --> 04:49:33,910 some of these are smaller dollars but we have to think about long-term planning. 4253 04:49:33,910 --> 04:49:36,698 for example, if this comes from 4254 04:49:36,698 --> 04:49:38,755 capital we have the ems funding 4255 04:49:38,755 --> 04:49:40,821 model that is borrowing from our 4256 04:49:40,821 --> 04:49:42,589 capital not just ems capital 4257 04:49:42,589 --> 04:49:44,114 but for wing from capital so we 4258 04:49:44,114 --> 04:49:45,108 don't take on that. 4259 04:49:45,108 --> 04:49:47,424 it's just an exercise of making 4260 04:49:47,424 --> 04:49:49,012 sure we don't deplete reserves 4261 04:49:49,012 --> 04:49:51,014 as well and we have to be smart 4262 04:49:51,014 --> 04:49:52,521 about how much reserves we use 4263 04:49:52,521 --> 04:49:54,520 in the year so when we really 4264 04:49:54,520 --> 04:49:55,559 needed or for one-time things 4265 04:49:55,559 --> 04:49:57,036 -- if the province decides to kick 4266 04:49:57,036 --> 04:49:58,513 in money for something, we have 4267 04:49:58,513 --> 04:50:00,504 to have our share as well. 4268 04:50:00,504 --> 04:50:03,449 just thinking long term not depleting reserves for the future. 4269 04:50:03,449 --> 04:50:06,630 >> anyone else? 4270 04:50:06,630 --> 04:50:08,513 councilor mcnamara. 4271 04:50:08,513 --> 04:50:21,999 >> getting back to the standard 4272 04:50:21,999 --> 04:50:23,791 and poor -- getting the rating 4273 04:50:23,791 --> 04:50:25,919 , I know we don't borrow a lot of 4274 04:50:25,919 --> 04:50:27,652 money but if we were to borrow 4275 04:50:27,652 --> 04:50:30,993 money is it also utilized to 4276 04:50:30,993 --> 04:50:32,479 be able to get favoured interest 4277 04:50:32,479 --> 04:50:32,978 rates on loans? 4278 04:50:32,978 --> 04:50:39,001 >> in my exercise that I took 4279 04:50:39,001 --> 04:50:40,257 earlier this year to prepare the 4280 04:50:40,257 --> 04:50:43,004 council for what I have understood from infrastructure 4281 04:50:43,004 --> 04:50:46,633 ontario which is typically where municipalities borrow from 4282 04:50:46,633 --> 04:50:48,133  from, it does not factor into 4283 04:50:48,133 --> 04:50:50,307 the rate, which is why it was 4284 04:50:50,307 --> 04:50:51,875 up for debate, the cost-benefit analysis. 4285 04:50:51,875 --> 04:50:54,329 but it does really help with vendors. 4286 04:50:54,329 --> 04:50:56,642 know when every screens us or 4287 04:50:56,642 --> 04:50:58,667 anything like that, they understand we have a aaa rating 4288 04:50:58,667 --> 04:51:00,969 so it simpler from an administrative position. 4289 04:51:00,969 --> 04:51:05,631 >> so realistically, it wouldn't 4290 04:51:05,631 --> 04:51:07,370 affect us if we have to borrow 4291 04:51:07,370 --> 04:51:10,509 money through infrastructure ontario for major projects? 4292 04:51:10,509 --> 04:51:14,049 >> in february, when I checked 4293 04:51:14,049 --> 04:51:15,539 , it did not have an effect. 4294 04:51:15,539 --> 04:51:18,293 >> okay then that is my decision 4295 04:51:18,293 --> 04:51:18,293  decision. 4296 04:51:18,293 --> 04:51:21,295 I certainly wouldn't want to bring it back. 4297 04:51:21,295 --> 04:51:26,324 but also, as councilor prue and 4298 04:51:26,324 --> 04:51:28,790 certainly councilor waldstedt, 4299 04:51:28,790 --> 04:51:31,434 I do support what they are saying 4300 04:51:31,434 --> 04:51:33,421 as well as I think it's a matter 4301 04:51:33,421 --> 04:51:34,628 of principle moving forward and 4302 04:51:34,628 --> 04:51:39,740 again the 2.5% is on the salaries I would say -- I would 4303 04:51:39,740 --> 04:51:42,970 support what councilor waldstedt 4304 04:51:42,970 --> 04:51:43,782 has brought forward. 4305 04:51:43,782 --> 04:51:46,819 >> thank you. 4306 04:51:46,819 --> 04:51:47,091 councilor waldstedt. 4307 04:51:47,091 --> 04:51:47,425 >> thank you. 4308 04:51:47,425 --> 04:51:53,336 I'm just wondering how many silence people are in opposition 4309 04:51:53,336 --> 04:51:54,356 to the wage increase? 4310 04:51:54,356 --> 04:51:58,368 what procedure -- is there a motion on the floor now? 4311 04:51:58,368 --> 04:51:58,928 >> not yet. 4312 04:51:58,928 --> 04:52:05,374 >> because I know councilor bondy mentioned she had a motion 4313 04:52:05,374 --> 04:52:07,126 but I would make a motion that 4314 04:52:07,126 --> 04:52:11,121 we would deal with the wage salaries and indemnity's increase for council separately 4315 04:52:11,121 --> 04:52:11,121 . 4316 04:52:11,121 --> 04:52:12,867 if that is proper. 4317 04:52:12,867 --> 04:52:17,950 >> we will do it the weight we 4318 04:52:17,950 --> 04:52:19,183 need to do it. 4319 04:52:19,183 --> 04:52:19,735 thank you for that's. 4320 04:52:19,735 --> 04:52:25,190 we will look to you for -- as 4321 04:52:25,190 --> 04:52:25,441 a mover. 4322 04:52:25,441 --> 04:52:25,737 anyone else? 4323 04:52:25,737 --> 04:52:27,629 in regards to this report? 4324 04:52:27,629 --> 04:52:27,629 okay. 4325 04:52:27,629 --> 04:52:34,599 seeing none, I will look to madame clerk. 4326 04:52:34,599 --> 04:52:43,526 we will just wait for the clerk 4327 04:52:43,526 --> 04:52:47,695  clerk's department to list the 4328 04:52:47,695 --> 04:52:47,915 motion. 4329 04:52:47,915 --> 04:52:55,515 >> thank you tag team. 4330 04:52:55,515 --> 04:53:01,828 thank you, team. 4331 04:53:15,386 --> 04:54:14,931 >> the motion from councilor 4332 04:54:14,931 --> 04:54:17,876 waldstedt is in the revised screen. 4333 04:54:17,876 --> 04:54:25,097 >> I will read the motion from 4334 04:54:25,097 --> 04:54:27,919 councilor waldstedt, just to make sure you are good with the 4335 04:54:27,919 --> 04:54:28,169 boarding. 4336 04:54:28,169 --> 04:54:37,064 that is that essex county council reduce proposed line item 105-60-1101 of the general 4337 04:54:37,064 --> 04:54:40,776  general government council services budget to the 2025 level of $518,100. 4338 04:54:40,776 --> 04:54:49,515 that is moved by councilor waldstedt. 4339 04:54:49,515 --> 04:54:53,706 >> that takes care of my concern 4340 04:54:53,706 --> 04:54:55,209 and others that I've heard from 4341 04:54:55,209 --> 04:54:55,209 . 4342 04:54:55,209 --> 04:54:58,015 >> looking for a seconder to the 4343 04:54:58,015 --> 04:54:58,298 motion. 4344 04:54:58,298 --> 04:55:03,182 that is moved by councilor mcnamara. 4345 04:55:03,182 --> 04:55:03,855 question, councilor bondy? 4346 04:55:03,855 --> 04:55:06,965 3 yes, thank you. 4347 04:55:06,965 --> 04:55:08,423 it's an election year. 4348 04:55:08,423 --> 04:55:09,383 we all know it. 4349 04:55:09,383 --> 04:55:10,884 that's why we are talking about 4350 04:55:10,884 --> 04:55:11,639 this right now. 4351 04:55:11,639 --> 04:55:14,125 what does this mean going forward? 4352 04:55:14,125 --> 04:55:16,445 are we four years behind again 4353 04:55:16,445 --> 04:55:16,445 ? 4354 04:55:16,445 --> 04:55:21,792 what happened was we reviewed 4355 04:55:21,792 --> 04:55:23,283 our wages and we were supposed 4356 04:55:23,283 --> 04:55:26,476 to stay in line with our non nonunion comparators. 4357 04:55:26,476 --> 04:55:28,565 if we don't support this, does 4358 04:55:28,565 --> 04:55:30,291 this mean we are not supporting 4359 04:55:30,291 --> 04:55:31,529 it for the four years? 4360 04:55:31,529 --> 04:55:34,778 because then we are going to get 4361 04:55:34,778 --> 04:55:36,277 back to where we have been. 4362 04:55:36,277 --> 04:55:39,407 so I just want to understand, 4363 04:55:39,407 --> 04:55:41,061 we know it's an election year. 4364 04:55:41,061 --> 04:55:43,630 everyone's got to do their election things. 4365 04:55:43,630 --> 04:55:45,242 but what does this mean going 4366 04:55:45,242 --> 04:55:45,242 forward? 4367 04:55:45,242 --> 04:55:51,773 I want to know what this means 4368 04:55:51,773 --> 04:55:53,236 for the new term of council. 4369 04:55:53,236 --> 04:55:54,797 are they behind or did they come 4370 04:55:54,797 --> 04:55:55,295 back in? 4371 04:55:55,295 --> 04:55:56,608 do they stay a cycle out? 4372 04:55:56,608 --> 04:56:02,836 >> I do remember the conversation at the time and I 4373 04:56:02,836 --> 04:56:04,606 believe we have it in a policy 4374 04:56:04,606 --> 04:56:08,423 on exactly how often we would 4375 04:56:08,423 --> 04:56:09,924 do the market salary review for council. 4376 04:56:09,924 --> 04:56:11,988 I believe it was every term of 4377 04:56:11,988 --> 04:56:12,206 council. 4378 04:56:12,206 --> 04:56:13,520 anyone please correct me if I'm 4379 04:56:13,520 --> 04:56:13,773 wrong. 4380 04:56:13,773 --> 04:56:20,215 so that would still occur because that was approved already that every term of council we would do that review 4381 04:56:20,215 --> 04:56:20,463 again. 4382 04:56:20,463 --> 04:56:23,765 potentially, yes, like any other 4383 04:56:23,765 --> 04:56:26,789 salary if we don't do it on an 4384 04:56:26,789 --> 04:56:28,543 annual basis, it may be a bigger 4385 04:56:28,543 --> 04:56:33,951 jump all at once but that is already factored in that we would have that review every term of council. 4386 04:56:33,951 --> 04:56:39,296 >> any other questions in regards to the motion? 4387 04:56:39,296 --> 04:56:42,557 I will ask you to vote electronically. 4388 04:56:42,557 --> 04:56:45,128 we are pausing. 4389 04:56:45,128 --> 04:57:00,924 councilor waldstedt? 4390 04:57:00,924 --> 04:57:08,916 >> in order to make sure we have 4391 04:57:08,916 --> 04:57:11,696 the correct dollar figure in there we're going to remove the 4392 04:57:11,696 --> 04:57:13,602 dollar figure and reworded to 4393 04:57:13,602 --> 04:57:14,360 say maintain 2025 pay level? 4394 04:57:14,360 --> 04:57:22,748 >> that was the intent. 4395 04:57:22,748 --> 04:57:38,746 test 4396 04:57:38,746 --> 04:58:02,733 >> again, I will read the revised. 4397 04:58:02,733 --> 04:58:03,547 the essex county council reduce 4398 04:58:03,547 --> 04:58:12,113 the proposed line item 105-60-1101 of the general government council services budget to maintain the 2025 level. 4399 04:58:12,113 --> 04:58:18,471 councilor waldstedt, just wanting a nod. 4400 04:58:18,471 --> 04:58:18,471 yes. 4401 04:58:18,471 --> 04:58:20,890 and seconder was councilor mcnamara. 4402 04:58:20,890 --> 04:58:22,031 and you are good. 4403 04:58:22,031 --> 04:58:24,851 we will ask you to vote electronically for that motion 4404 04:58:24,851 --> 04:58:24,851 . 4405 04:58:24,851 --> 04:58:43,539 and that carries. 4406 04:58:43,539 --> 04:58:52,244 secondary to that, there is a 4407 04:58:52,244 --> 04:58:54,198 recommendation that the presentation for the proposed 4408 04:58:54,198 --> 04:58:54,933 2026 general government budget 4409 04:58:54,933 --> 04:58:58,027 be received can further that the 4410 04:58:58,027 --> 04:59:02,951 2026 budget estimates for general government to be received or received and approved as amended. 4411 04:59:02,951 --> 04:59:04,576 looking for your wishes. 4412 04:59:04,576 --> 04:59:09,195 councilor verbeke. 4413 04:59:09,195 --> 04:59:11,309 >> I would like to move, receive 4414 04:59:11,309 --> 04:59:11,812 and approve. 4415 04:59:11,812 --> 04:59:12,362 >> as amended? 4416 04:59:12,362 --> 04:59:17,770 that is moved by councilor verbeke. 4417 04:59:17,770 --> 04:59:18,391 looking for seconder. 4418 04:59:18,391 --> 04:59:18,765 councilor gibb. 4419 04:59:18,765 --> 04:59:20,460 comments or questions? 4420 04:59:20,460 --> 04:59:24,634 we will ask you to vote electronically please. 4421 04:59:24,634 --> 04:59:42,522 that is carried. 4422 04:59:42,522 --> 04:59:49,853 next we have external commitments. 4423 04:59:49,853 --> 04:59:51,019 back to you again, melissa. 4424 04:59:51,019 --> 04:59:55,080 >> this final sections covers 4425 04:59:55,080 --> 04:59:57,360 the county's external commitments both legislative 4426 04:59:57,360 --> 04:59:58,706 and discretionary, and how these 4427 04:59:58,706 --> 05:00:01,050 investments support our residents and regional partners 4428 05:00:01,050 --> 05:00:01,050 . 4429 05:00:01,050 --> 05:00:05,109 our goal is to manage these obligations responsibly, he partnership strong and make sure 4430 05:00:05,109 --> 05:00:07,642 we're reading community needs 4431 05:00:07,642 --> 05:00:07,642 effectively. 4432 05:00:07,642 --> 05:00:10,720 many of the 2026 figures from 4433 05:00:10,720 --> 05:00:13,369 the city of windsor, who administer some of these programs. 4434 05:00:13,369 --> 05:00:15,602 while the city won't finalize 4435 05:00:15,602 --> 05:00:16,609 its budget until late january, 4436 05:00:16,609 --> 05:00:19,171 we've used the most current information to guide projections 4437 05:00:19,171 --> 05:00:19,171  projections. 4438 05:00:19,171 --> 05:00:22,926 legislative commitments covers 4439 05:00:22,926 --> 05:00:24,534 services we are required to fund 4440 05:00:24,534 --> 05:00:25,632  fund, public health, property 4441 05:00:25,632 --> 05:00:27,323 assessment social services and 4442 05:00:27,323 --> 05:00:28,249 social housing. 4443 05:00:28,249 --> 05:00:30,047 health unit costs are expected 4444 05:00:30,047 --> 05:00:33,296 to rise just over 1% for 2026 4445 05:00:33,296 --> 05:00:34,447 and impact property assessment 4446 05:00:34,447 --> 05:00:35,767 cost are anticipated to increase 4447 05:00:35,767 --> 05:00:36,284 by 3.7%. 4448 05:00:36,284 --> 05:00:41,162 social services and social housing operations are higher 4449 05:00:41,162 --> 05:00:45,006 due to contractual wage increases for city staff and changes to the child care administrative funding formula 4450 05:00:45,006 --> 05:00:45,006 . 4451 05:00:45,006 --> 05:00:48,018 windsor-essex community housing 4452 05:00:48,018 --> 05:00:49,229 corporation has also requested 4453 05:00:49,229 --> 05:00:51,241 additional operating funds so 4454 05:00:51,241 --> 05:00:52,216 this budgetthis includes budget includes 4455 05:00:52,216 --> 05:00:53,109 ourare anticipated anticipated share with further adjustments dependency approvals 4456 05:00:53,109 --> 05:00:54,552 share with further adjustments dependent on cit approvals. 4457 05:00:54,552 --> 05:00:54,803 approval. 4458 05:00:54,803 --> 05:01:02,040 so for the social housing capital renewal, this program 4459 05:01:02,040 --> 05:01:04,190 is administered by the windsor-essex community housing corporation it's an important 4460 05:01:04,190 --> 05:01:08,735 initiative that utilizes county funding to improve, modernize 4461 05:01:08,735 --> 05:01:08,784 and maintain social housing 4462 05:01:08,735 --> 05:01:08,784 Properties 4463 05:01:08,784 --> 05:01:08,784 and maintain social housing 4464 05:01:08,784 --> 05:01:15,864 Properties throughout essex windsor This problem addresses energy efficiency and upgrade safety 4465 05:01:15,864 --> 05:01:16,643 and excessive building features 4466 05:01:16,643 --> 05:01:20,840 ensuring that residents live in safe, healthy and sustainable environments so this program supports a ten-year social housing plan. 4467 05:01:20,840 --> 05:01:30,773 while the 2025 funding requests were lower, the significant projects are scheduled from 2026 to 2028 which rely heavily on 4468 05:01:30,773 --> 05:01:30,773 reserves. 4469 05:01:30,773 --> 05:01:34,285 to prepare, we are continuing 4470 05:01:34,285 --> 05:01:40,505 to contribute an additional 200,000 to the social housing capital reserve annually to build capacity in that program. 4471 05:01:40,505 --> 05:01:45,017 when we look at projective reserve balances, social housing 4472 05:01:45,017 --> 05:01:45,731 capital reserve is part of the 4473 05:01:45,731 --> 05:01:50,141 overall capital reserve balance and are expected reserve for this 4474 05:01:50,141 --> 05:01:54,072 one is 7.8 million at the end of 2025 with unanticipated 4475 05:01:54,072 --> 05:01:56,787 spend of 5.7 million in 2026. 4476 05:01:56,787 --> 05:01:59,539 and 7.7 million in 2027. 4477 05:01:59,539 --> 05:02:03,090 so doing the math, this reserve 4478 05:02:03,090 --> 05:02:07,102 will be deleted of all the projects move forward however, we do have a plan to replenish 4479 05:02:07,102 --> 05:02:08,145 in years where costs are not expected to be so high. 4480 05:02:08,145 --> 05:02:13,165 these are discretionary obligations which include 4481 05:02:08,145 --> 05:02:13,165 Investments 4482 05:02:13,165 --> 05:02:13,165 these are discretionary obligations which include 4483 05:02:13,165 --> 05:02:15,729 Investments or -- windsor-essex 4484 05:02:15,729 --> 05:02:21,878 so funding is remaining at the same level as previous years, same with tourism windsor-essex 4485 05:02:21,878 --> 05:02:21,878 . 4486 05:02:21,878 --> 05:02:24,058 there is no increase in funding 4487 05:02:24,058 --> 05:02:31,100 . The community safety and well-being plan, a slight increase and that's for the contractual wage increases for the city staff that oversee this 4488 05:02:31,100 --> 05:02:35,526 program There's also the tax appeals for lower tiers. 4489 05:02:35,526 --> 05:02:38,208 these funds to support tax appeals services for local means 4490 05:02:38,208 --> 05:02:44,410 apologies and they're critical to ensure fair taxation so there's an increase in this line 4491 05:02:44,410 --> 05:02:45,541 as last year 4492 05:02:45,541 --> 05:02:47,186 as last year's budget decreased it by 90,000 but we are trending 4493 05:02:47,186 --> 05:02:52,542 if it can be higher that -- found out this year so we want to bring a backup the necessary 4494 05:02:52,542 --> 05:02:52,602 levels. 4495 05:02:52,602 --> 05:02:58,407 and then this year's hospital contribution sees an increase 4496 05:02:58,407 --> 05:03:01,693 of 720,000 of levy dollars bringing 4497 05:03:01,693 --> 05:03:03,825 the total annual funding to 7.76 million. 4498 05:03:03,825 --> 05:03:06,841 we are in ongoing discussions 4499 05:03:06,841 --> 05:03:08,911 with the hospital regarding timing of payment, however, nothing has been confirmed to 4500 05:03:08,911 --> 05:03:08,911 date. 4501 05:03:08,911 --> 05:03:15,196 should council wish to reduce additional funding emotion would be required as it is built into the proposed budget. 4502 05:03:15,196 --> 05:03:21,104 and lastly we have the erie shores health care so there -- 4503 05:03:21,104 --> 05:03:22,096 this is a long term commitment 4504 05:03:22,096 --> 05:03:25,043 with $200,000 allocated and this 4505 05:03:25,043 --> 05:03:25,566 is year three of a 10-year commitment. 4506 05:03:25,566 --> 05:03:30,343 without I'm happy to take any 4507 05:03:30,343 --> 05:03:32,905 questions >> thank you melissa. 4508 05:03:32,905 --> 05:03:39,903 let's start with you councillor mcnamara >> I would propose that on the 4509 05:03:39,903 --> 05:03:40,731 hospital allocation the extra 4510 05:03:40,731 --> 05:03:52,269 720,000 this year be deferred to help offset some of the costs on the augment that I've talked about with ens and others so I would propose that at the proper 4511 05:03:52,269 --> 05:04:00,440 time as a motion. >> so you're talking that it 4512 05:03:53,744 --> 05:04:00,440 Remain 4513 05:04:00,440 --> 05:04:00,440 time as a motion. >> so you're talking that it 4514 05:04:00,440 --> 05:04:06,242 Remain at the 2025 budget number of 7,040,000? 4515 05:04:06,242 --> 05:04:28,789 >> that's correct your guy maintain 7,000,040 in the base moving forward and then 720,000, the additional for 2026b deferred their and move in to allocate some of the costs for the enhancements in the various 4516 05:04:28,789 --> 05:04:30,971 positions. 4517 05:04:28,789 --> 05:04:30,971 >> okay thank you 4518 05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:30,971 positions. 4519 05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:30,971 >> okay thank you. 4520 05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:34,641 any other comments and questions 4521 05:04:34,641 --> 05:04:34,641  questions? 4522 05:04:34,641 --> 05:04:44,158 councillor akpata. >> I like seeing invest windsor-essex I'm glad they came. I was one of the people who voted to change their funding 4523 05:04:44,158 --> 05:04:53,775 allocation and I hope through you and the office of the commitments they made to us hold true because they did a great job in pivoting and changing us 4524 05:04:53,775 --> 05:04:55,535 those bringing us what we need. I want to make sure as we go for 4525 05:04:55,535 --> 05:05:01,969 word we don't have to go through that cycle again so. 4526 05:05:01,969 --> 05:05:01,969 [inaudible] 4527 05:05:01,969 --> 05:05:07,569 >> council will be able to hold their feet to the fire because 4528 05:05:07,569 --> 05:05:08,609 they promise they would be here 4529 05:05:08,609 --> 05:05:21,514 four times a year and we will certainly let them know if they were overdue because I do think that was a scare for them last year to think that they would have to operate at 15% less than what they had expected and so I 4530 05:05:21,514 --> 05:05:26,931 think I'm of the opinion that 4531 05:05:26,931 --> 05:05:38,770 councils had a very strong message and also with gordon moore at the helm, he understands how counsel operates and knows that people of our and I believe they will hold true 4532 05:05:38,770 --> 05:05:42,531 but myself and the cao will make sure that if there seems to be a 4533 05:05:42,531 --> 05:05:45,051 slip we will remind them. 4534 05:05:45,051 --> 05:05:51,063 councillor prue, was your hand up? 4535 05:05:51,063 --> 05:05:55,015 >> no I didn't know whether the motion was made I was just going 4536 05:05:55,015 --> 05:06:01,244 to second it. >> I wanted to have some conversations and I will come back to you councillor mcnamara 4537 05:06:01,244 --> 05:06:01,696 for that. 4538 05:06:01,696 --> 05:06:04,644 anyone else to comment on the external commitments? 4539 05:06:04,644 --> 05:06:10,822 in that case, then I'm coming 4540 05:06:10,822 --> 05:06:21,778 back to you councillor mcnamara, I believe we have the wording just about ready. 4541 05:06:21,778 --> 05:06:25,987 just bear with us for a few moments. 4542 05:06:25,987 --> 05:07:25,857 so the motion is that the essex 4543 05:07:25,857 --> 05:07:28,719  essex county budget be adjusted 4544 05:07:28,719 --> 05:07:43,999 to reflect the 2025 contribution to the new windsor-essex hospital system reserve to be the sum of 7,040,000. That's moved by councillor mcnamara and seconded by councillor prue. 4545 05:07:43,999 --> 05:07:46,842 comments or questions in regards to that motion? 4546 05:07:46,842 --> 05:08:00,635 councillor gibb. >> I'm looking at my screen and it says 6 million. That would explain it. 4547 05:08:00,635 --> 05:08:07,306 we cut that a few beats ago. 4548 05:08:07,306 --> 05:08:17,892 no comments or questions? 4549 05:08:17,892 --> 05:08:19,971 I'll ask you to vote electronically please. 4550 05:08:19,971 --> 05:08:37,332 and that's carried. 4551 05:08:37,332 --> 05:08:48,177 there's a recommendation also to the presentation for the 2026 propose external commitments budget be received and that the 4552 05:08:48,177 --> 05:08:49,417 2026 budget estimates for 4553 05:08:48,177 --> 05:08:49,417 External commitments 4554 05:08:49,417 --> 05:08:49,417 2026 budget estimates for 4555 05:08:49,417 --> 05:08:51,021 External commitments be received 4556 05:08:51,021 --> 05:08:53,149 or received and approved as amended. 4557 05:08:52,703 --> 05:08:53,149 Looking 4558 05:08:53,149 --> 05:08:53,149 or received and approved as amended. 4559 05:08:53,149 --> 05:08:53,866 Looking for a mover. 4560 05:08:53,866 --> 05:08:59,982 moved by councillor prue to receive and approve. 4561 05:08:59,982 --> 05:09:05,450 councillor prue, seconded deputy 4562 05:09:05,450 --> 05:09:07,138 warden any discussion? 4563 05:09:07,138 --> 05:09:18,302 councillor bailey. >> thank you read through you. Just a question related to the 4564 05:09:18,302 --> 05:09:28,702 capital renewals renewal that was roughly 2 million and went to 5.7, recognizing the increase that's three-point for, I think 4565 05:09:28,702 --> 05:09:34,561 it's related to the capital renewal and construction that 4566 05:09:34,561 --> 05:09:35,377 will be needed with windsor-essex community housing corporation but can you confirm 4567 05:09:35,377 --> 05:09:35,377 ? 4568 05:09:35,377 --> 05:09:40,732 >> yes. That's correct it's their 10-year capital plan that 4569 05:09:40,732 --> 05:09:42,157 it's just certain years are higher than other >> you so much. 4570 05:09:42,157 --> 05:09:49,737 >> if there are no further questions I will ask you to vote electronically please. 4571 05:09:49,737 --> 05:10:24,354 and that's carried. 4572 05:10:24,354 --> 05:10:50,990 so that concludes the departmental budget presentations pure we are now at the point where we approve, amend what does it council wishes to dupe your guy will start with councillor. >> I expect this to be a bit lengthy and I will start with 4573 05:10:50,990 --> 05:10:51,802 wanting to add number 19 which is the renovation of the storage 4574 05:10:51,802 --> 05:10:55,852 room During the basement already with 4575 05:10:55,852 --> 05:10:56,561 a library. 4576 05:10:56,561 --> 05:10:59,674 I don't understand why we wouldn't just add this room, it's reserved funded, not a lot 4577 05:10:59,674 --> 05:11:04,853 of money so that's a motion if needed. 4578 05:11:01,333 --> 05:11:04,853 I 4579 05:11:04,853 --> 05:11:04,853 of money so that's a motion if needed. 4580 05:11:04,853 --> 05:11:06,154 I don't know how you want to do this one at a time. >> I 4581 05:11:06,154 --> 05:11:13,323 . >> I think it will be less confusing for us and finance. 4582 05:11:13,323 --> 05:11:20,330 I'm going to rely heavily on the clerk forwarding et cetera so if you don't mind bearing with us 4583 05:11:20,330 --> 05:11:25,922 will work together that we will get it into the phrasing that 4584 05:11:25,922 --> 05:11:43,433 you would like and anyone else who comes forward. >> so everyone is in the same comfort level if you have an item that you wish to move from that list that was previously 4585 05:11:43,433 --> 05:11:48,854 spoken about, appendix three, we're tracking things by the line number and it would be helpful for us to look at that number when you move the item. 4586 05:11:48,854 --> 05:12:20,401 base will be listed under 1210 if you're following on your agenda. 4587 05:12:20,401 --> 05:12:28,455 >> so the first motion, councillor de young is that the room g28 safety and efficiency 4588 05:12:28,455 --> 05:12:38,698 project added to the 2026 general government corporate management budget as outlined on line 19 of the appendix three of the treasurer's report. 4589 05:12:38,698 --> 05:12:51,403 I will be looking for nods. 4590 05:12:51,403 --> 05:12:57,945 they need a second or cocktails want to make sure that melissa gets what we need. 4591 05:12:57,945 --> 05:13:02,436 looking for a second or, in regards to that motion, deputy 4592 05:13:02,436 --> 05:13:06,606 warden melissa? 4593 05:13:06,606 --> 05:13:07,271 you're good? 4594 05:13:07,271 --> 05:13:07,540 are you clear on that? 4595 05:13:07,540 --> 05:13:07,540 okay. 4596 05:13:07,540 --> 05:13:11,419 any questions from council  council members in regards to 4597 05:13:11,419 --> 05:13:11,469 that motion? 4598 05:13:11,469 --> 05:13:16,144 no clarification needed. Okay. 4599 05:13:16,144 --> 05:13:53,331 then will ask you. and that's carried. 4600 05:13:53,331 --> 05:14:06,482 next, councillor meloche. >> one question before I make a 4601 05:14:06,482 --> 05:14:22,759 motion, among our extra items, number 18 and 23, they're both speaking to the generator and I'm just wondering why their separated issues when they're both to deal with the generator in the grid iso agreement. 4602 05:14:22,759 --> 05:14:29,757 >> is that something you can speak to? 4603 05:14:29,757 --> 05:14:37,437 >> I can't pull up that appendix quickly. 4604 05:14:37,437 --> 05:14:42,579 and I would maybe like melissa 4605 05:14:42,579 --> 05:14:45,970 to just confirm, is there an item in the additional items for 4606 05:14:45,970 --> 05:14:47,876 a generator study and is there also one for humidity study? 4607 05:14:47,876 --> 05:15:08,462 those of the two that I had. >> to me it looks like the same sort of study I just want to figure out why there's two different line items for it If it couldn't be one study completed that may cost less 4608 05:15:08,462 --> 05:15:08,512 than dude -- during two separate 4609 05:15:08,512 --> 05:15:08,569 studies. 4610 05:15:08,569 --> 05:15:29,859 >> they are two separate studies but whenever we put together an rfp, if they're similar enough 4611 05:15:29,859 --> 05:15:36,361 in scope and we can find someone to do that same work, that's definitely a possibility so I 4612 05:15:36,361 --> 05:15:36,747 guess at this point, if council chooses to bring both of them in 4613 05:15:36,747 --> 05:15:41,992  in, obviously that would be our budget but if we come in under budget that's fine too. 4614 05:15:41,992 --> 05:16:00,104 >> thank you I would like to make a motion that we move forward with those two items from the appendix three, along with the other item 24 so those are the three other remaining 4615 05:16:00,104 --> 05:16:01,890 items and those are reserved funded items in the additional 4616 05:16:01,890 --> 05:16:01,890 . 4617 05:16:01,890 --> 05:16:09,062 those are the three I put forward. 4618 05:16:09,062 --> 05:16:12,998 that's 18, 23, and 24. 4619 05:16:12,998 --> 05:16:18,257 those are all reserved funded. 4620 05:16:18,257 --> 05:16:31,627 >> if you don't mind clerk's office would like to do them separately so we will vote on 4621 05:16:31,627 --> 05:16:31,676 each one separately. 4622 05:16:31,676 --> 05:16:41,441 >> no problem I just was not sure because 18 and 23 are similar I wasn't share if we should put them together or not because if we could rf he had them it would make sense that if we can do them soberly. 4623 05:16:41,441 --> 05:16:45,451 >> I think it will do better if we do it soberly. 4624 05:16:45,451 --> 05:16:45,949 that's their expert opinion so we will go with that. 4625 05:16:45,949 --> 05:16:49,012 did you have a question councillor prue? 4626 05:16:49,012 --> 05:16:51,089 >> I'm trying to understand this 4627 05:16:51,089 --> 05:16:51,089  this. 4628 05:16:51,089 --> 05:16:54,205 right now, they're funded but 4629 05:16:54,205 --> 05:16:55,736 they're funded from the reserve 4630 05:16:55,736 --> 05:16:58,476 and the motion is to fund them 4631 05:16:58,476 --> 05:17:00,275 from general tax revenue. 4632 05:17:00,275 --> 05:17:01,800 of the is to what? 4633 05:17:01,800 --> 05:17:10,569 okay so they're not on the budget you just wanted back in the reserve? Okay now I understand all right. 4634 05:17:10,569 --> 05:17:18,009 >> but they were on that wish list >> okay >> okay. 4635 05:17:18,009 --> 05:17:28,093 I need a second for the motion of the county a administration 4636 05:17:28,093 --> 05:17:31,201 building generator added to the 4637 05:17:31,201 --> 05:17:35,840 2026 interest doctrine planning services budget as outlined on line 18 and the appendix treasurer's report. 4638 05:17:35,840 --> 05:17:51,365 moved by councillor meloche excellent -- seconded by councillor deyong, question should go ahead. >> to do a study in support of -- I didn't quite pick up from 4639 05:17:51,365 --> 05:17:55,145 councillor prue this usually is a one-time fund, right? 4640 05:17:55,145 --> 05:18:03,708 so would it be taken from the re restabilization fund or reserves 4641 05:18:03,708 --> 05:18:03,708  reserves. 4642 05:18:03,708 --> 05:18:08,909 I hate to see a study go on a 4643 05:18:08,909 --> 05:18:10,169 base >> melissa? 4644 05:18:10,169 --> 05:18:19,010 >> entire list included some reserve items as well as some lovely funded items so that the three that are mentioned right 4645 05:18:19,010 --> 05:18:24,308 now and we will do them in separate motions, they're all levy funded and it will be one-time dollars and restabilization. 4646 05:18:24,308 --> 05:18:28,572 >> the reserve funded. >> yes. [booing] 4647 05:18:28,572 --> 05:18:30,970 you said levy but that's okay. >> sorry. 4648 05:18:28,572 --> 05:18:30,970 >> 4649 05:18:30,970 --> 05:18:30,970 you said levy but that's okay. >> sorry. 4650 05:18:30,970 --> 05:18:38,292 >> reserve funded. >> reserved because then I would be a post -- this makes sense 4651 05:18:38,292 --> 05:18:42,286 one time funding to do this study and then move forward after the fact. 4652 05:18:42,286 --> 05:18:42,286 okay. 4653 05:18:42,286 --> 05:18:48,299 anyone else? 4654 05:18:48,299 --> 05:18:55,363 really have conversation will 4655 05:18:55,363 --> 05:18:55,808 he have a conversation with mike 4656 05:18:55,808 --> 05:19:02,209 so without wheat I would prefer if we have conversation, we stick 4657 05:19:02,209 --> 05:19:02,318 to the mic. 4658 05:19:02,318 --> 05:19:02,428 please go ahead. 4659 05:19:02,428 --> 05:19:05,559 so the rest of us know what's 4660 05:19:05,559 --> 05:19:09,866 going on >> thank you and I was just confirming that indeed these three items are coming from the 4661 05:19:09,866 --> 05:19:22,581 reserve, you're on the wish list and then we will vote to put them back in but funded for reserve >> for council awareness, these 4662 05:19:22,581 --> 05:19:27,016 studies will generate items that potentially would be required 4663 05:19:27,016 --> 05:19:30,736 in the future which would require other dollars but for now, the 4664 05:19:30,736 --> 05:19:31,341 studies themselves would be reserved and funded yes. 4665 05:19:31,341 --> 05:19:35,241 >> perfect then thank you for 4666 05:19:35,241 --> 05:19:35,241 that. 4667 05:19:35,241 --> 05:19:35,458 I think it clarified for everyone. 4668 05:19:35,458 --> 05:19:40,780 >> with that, I will ask you to vote electronically please. 4669 05:19:40,780 --> 05:20:06,458 >> a question before, there's no no mention here about the reserves Should it be indicated in the 4670 05:20:06,458 --> 05:20:06,458 motion? 4671 05:20:06,458 --> 05:20:09,046 >> it's in the report. 4672 05:20:09,046 --> 05:20:11,948 if you look on page 37 in the 4673 05:20:11,948 --> 05:20:15,222 report, it lists where those projects are being funded from 4674 05:20:15,222 --> 05:20:23,010 . >> okay so just the confusing part is there in the report but it's not in the actual motion. 4675 05:20:23,010 --> 05:20:29,937 >> it says as outlined if you want to pull up that appendix three, if you've got the printed 4676 05:20:29,937 --> 05:20:33,119 version so it says as outlined 4677 05:20:33,119 --> 05:20:34,701 in the report. 4678 05:20:34,701 --> 05:20:39,790 and that's carried, thank you. 4679 05:20:39,790 --> 05:20:45,915 next, anybody else? 4680 05:20:45,915 --> 05:21:10,121 so this is now, we're waiting for that wording. 4681 05:21:10,121 --> 05:21:56,259 >> the motion is that how did administration building summer humidity investigation be added to the 2026 infrastructure and planning services budget as outlined on line 23 of the appendix three of the treasurer treasurer's report. 4682 05:21:56,259 --> 05:22:02,122 that was moved by councillor meloche and seconded by councillor deyong. 4683 05:22:02,013 --> 05:22:02,122 So we're 4684 05:22:02,122 --> 05:22:02,122 meloche and seconded by councillor deyong. 4685 05:22:02,122 --> 05:22:05,725 So we're now looking into that electronically. 4686 05:22:05,725 --> 05:22:41,862 and that's carried. 4687 05:22:41,862 --> 05:23:01,670 one last motion. 4688 05:23:01,670 --> 05:23:22,704 and this motion is that the county administration building west to south sidewalk be added to 2026 infrastructure and planning services budget as outlined on line 24 of the appendix three of the treasurer 4689 05:23:22,704 --> 05:23:27,079  treasurer's report, moved by councillor meloche and seconded 4690 05:23:27,079 --> 05:23:30,243 by councillor deyong. 4691 05:23:30,243 --> 05:24:01,108 looking for voting. and that's carried. 4692 05:24:01,108 --> 05:24:20,816 councillor gibb. >> thank you madame morden. I'd like to make a motion that we include item number one on the business case requests for the committee programs coordinator. 4693 05:24:20,816 --> 05:24:24,727 if I can get a secondary, I'd like to speak to it. 4694 05:24:24,727 --> 05:24:40,169 >> community programs coordinator for ens. I'll wait till we get -- oh it's already. 4695 05:24:40,169 --> 05:24:46,542 were 79 steps ahead of me. 4696 05:24:46,542 --> 05:24:48,959 their ego. 4697 05:24:48,959 --> 05:24:51,592 so the motion is that the community programs coordinator 4698 05:24:51,592 --> 05:24:56,570 be added to the 2026 essex windsor ens budget as outlined 4699 05:24:56,570 --> 05:24:59,798 on line one of the appendix three of the treasurer's report 4700 05:24:59,798 --> 05:25:02,475 and that's moved by councillor gibb and seconded by councillor meloche. 4701 05:25:02,475 --> 05:25:21,361 councillor gibb wanted to speak to that. I apologize. 4702 05:25:21,021 --> 05:25:21,361 >> 4703 05:25:21,361 --> 05:25:21,361 to that. I apologize. 4704 05:25:21,361 --> 05:25:30,972 >> I feel that we've done so much work on the public access to for belated program that to 4705 05:25:30,972 --> 05:25:37,642 see it full by the wayside would really be a shame. I like the idea of public cpr 4706 05:25:37,642 --> 05:25:37,691 training and building community 4707 05:25:37,642 --> 05:25:37,691 Resilience 4708 05:25:37,691 --> 05:25:37,691 training and building community 4709 05:25:37,691 --> 05:25:40,101 Resilience I think is important, 4710 05:25:40,101 --> 05:25:50,623 especially when our ems system is stretched to have civilians who can step in and take care of people who needed, isn't readily 4711 05:25:50,623 --> 05:25:52,098 important. 4712 05:25:52,098 --> 05:26:01,346 one of the other things that she's mentioned as it reduces and prevents 911 calls when people know how to use these machines and know how to keep -- 4713 05:26:01,346 --> 05:26:01,779 take care of each other. 4714 05:26:01,779 --> 05:26:08,392 for something that's $121,000 but half of that cost will be 4715 05:26:08,392 --> 05:26:10,913 recuperated from the city and 4716 05:26:10,913 --> 05:26:13,319 in year two I believe, another half 4717 05:26:13,319 --> 05:26:16,547 of that cost is recuperated from the province so for essentially 4718 05:26:16,547 --> 05:26:18,454 $30,000, I think this is well 4719 05:26:18,454 --> 05:26:19,277 worth investing in. 4720 05:26:19,277 --> 05:26:25,626 >> thank you, councillor deyong, comment >> a question. 4721 05:26:25,626 --> 05:26:35,133 any existing ems program, there's someone who can do this training I'm guessing because I had done by ems at the community centre for my senior year volunteers. 4722 05:26:35,133 --> 05:26:40,057 I'm just hearing comments that's adjusted if we don't find this 4723 05:26:40,057 --> 05:26:42,567 new program that will be available anymore, we won't have someone who can come and teach 4724 05:26:42,567 --> 05:26:54,818 cpr or help people learn that we current have written out will is that >> numbers of counsel, that's correct we will not have a dedicate a lead as mentioned earlier it would be peace nailed 4725 05:26:54,818 --> 05:27:00,351 so we will do it we could but we will not have been. [inaudible] 4726 05:27:00,351 --> 05:27:01,450 >> so the person is dedicated 4727 05:27:01,450 --> 05:27:07,640 now as being reassigned to a different area or was never dedicated then he just filled in in? 4728 05:27:07,640 --> 05:27:07,801 I'm just trying to understand 4729 05:27:07,801 --> 05:27:11,301 because I thought we had somebody in there who's doing 4730 05:27:11,301 --> 05:27:27,392 that >> the individual doing it right now is not permanently in the 4731 05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:27,392 role. 4732 05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:27,392 It 4733 05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:27,392 role. 4734 05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:28,760 It will be tough for me to get any deeper than that. 4735 05:27:28,760 --> 05:27:37,402 >> councillor bondy. >> thank you madame morden. 4736 05:27:37,402 --> 05:27:43,976 this will be like that person will be in the budget and going forward and then the province picks up on it. 4737 05:27:43,976 --> 05:27:47,038 thank you. 4738 05:27:47,038 --> 05:27:52,362 I will be supporting it I've seen a lot of gains in education 4739 05:27:52,362 --> 05:27:58,784  education, I think it's vital. We were just -- we adjusted our ed yesterday I think at the cold 4740 05:27:58,784 --> 05:28:08,626 chester harbor and I see the value in this. After this I'm wondering if we can get where we are with our levy before we keep going. I think I'm curious to see where we are. Please and thank you. 4741 05:28:08,626 --> 05:28:52,549 >> we are just conferring on the wording because the appendix refers to the full cost as our finance folks have alluded to. 4742 05:28:52,549 --> 05:28:56,219 we just want to make it abundantly clear, the amount that we are adding back to the 4743 05:28:56,219 --> 05:28:58,555 budget and it's 50% of that amount. 4744 05:28:58,555 --> 05:29:01,906 you will bear with us a moment 4745 05:29:01,906 --> 05:29:02,946 to make that clarification and 4746 05:29:02,946 --> 05:29:03,007 motion. 4747 05:29:03,007 --> 05:29:39,195 >> a motion is that the community programs coordinator 4748 05:29:39,195 --> 05:29:50,269 be added to the 2026 essex ems budget as outlined on 11 of appendix three of the treasurer treasurer's report at 50% of the 4749 05:29:50,269 --> 05:29:50,376 indicated amount. 4750 05:29:50,376 --> 05:29:54,910 because of the sharing with partners. 4751 05:29:54,910 --> 05:29:54,910 understood? perfect. 4752 05:29:54,910 --> 05:30:01,047 I'm looking to melissa. 4753 05:30:01,047 --> 05:30:12,742 it's technical because of the 4754 05:30:12,742 --> 05:30:12,791 weighted assessment, right? 4755 05:30:12,791 --> 05:30:14,170 so I leave it up to the group, 4756 05:30:14,170 --> 05:30:15,253 I don't want to get that technical 4757 05:30:15,253 --> 05:30:25,000 but it's approximately so we'll change it >> we will change it to weighted assessment so good. 4758 05:30:25,000 --> 05:30:25,264 I don't think that's being picky picky. 4759 05:30:25,000 --> 05:30:25,264 I don't think that's being picky picky. 4760 05:30:25,264 --> 05:30:27,019 I think that's being exact. 4761 05:30:27,019 --> 05:30:40,267 councillor akpata. >> to our finance person if one of our partners the sides don't want to find anything, then what happens? 4762 05:30:40,267 --> 05:30:47,178 I'm just saying that my windsor star open I don't want to mention that place and we don't 4763 05:30:47,178 --> 05:31:01,699 want -- they don't seem to want to do anything just wondering what this position. >> because we provide the service the county provides the service we get this at that service level, similar to how the city gets a social services 4764 05:31:01,699 --> 05:31:16,952 -- so it's the same kind of scenario whether the service levels are set on us the cost of service level. >> thank you >> you have the windsor star open and the budget meeting? Just asking. 4765 05:31:16,952 --> 05:31:23,483 with that,. >> not intentionally >> the reworded motion of the 4766 05:31:23,483 --> 05:31:29,875 coordinator be added to the 2026 essex windsor ems budget is out of line -- as outlined on line one, the appendix three of the treasurer 4767 05:31:29,875 --> 05:31:32,551 treasurer's report. 4768 05:31:32,551 --> 05:31:34,527 to be divided in accordance with the weighted assessment rely. 4769 05:31:34,527 --> 05:31:49,245 looking to my move around secondary so you asked, you're the second or councillor meloche 4770 05:31:49,245 --> 05:31:50,450 with that will ask you to vote 4771 05:31:50,450 --> 05:31:52,094 electronically please. 4772 05:31:52,094 --> 05:32:24,090 and that's carried. Any other adjustments to the final -- deputy warden. >> I will try to get this motion motion. 4773 05:32:23,768 --> 05:32:24,090 I 4774 05:32:24,090 --> 05:32:24,090 >> I will try to get this motion motion. 4775 05:32:24,090 --> 05:32:37,712 I would like to add the additional hours under ems to be added to the 26th budget for essex windsor ems as outlined 4776 05:32:37,712 --> 05:32:41,104 in the appendix three of the treasurer's report to be divided 4777 05:32:41,104 --> 05:32:42,681 in accordance with weighted 4778 05:32:41,104 --> 05:32:42,681 Assessment 4779 05:32:42,681 --> 05:32:42,681 in accordance with weighted 4780 05:32:42,681 --> 05:32:42,739 Assessment formula. 4781 05:32:42,739 --> 05:32:48,188 >> that's the additional training hours, right? 4782 05:32:48,188 --> 05:32:50,328 >> yes. 4783 05:32:50,328 --> 05:33:08,064 >> and that's number five on the -- we will just wait until the wording gets -- so the motion 4784 05:33:08,064 --> 05:33:11,499 is that the additional training hours be added to the 2026 essex 4785 05:33:11,499 --> 05:33:17,642 the ms budget as outlined on line five, the appendix three of the treasurer's report to be divided in accordance with the 4786 05:33:17,642 --> 05:33:22,782 weighted assessment formula that's moved by deputy warden and seconded by councillor bondy 4787 05:33:22,782 --> 05:33:22,782  bondy. 4788 05:33:22,782 --> 05:33:31,831 >> just a point of information, can we get that levy before we keep going? 4789 05:33:31,831 --> 05:33:41,173 >> kindly vote on this and then we will have a conversation? 4790 05:33:41,173 --> 05:33:42,760 is that okay? 4791 05:33:42,760 --> 05:33:49,258 lesser getting almost ready time for break so let's do a couple of these things in sequential order. 4792 05:33:49,258 --> 05:33:52,607 so that's asked about. 4793 05:33:52,607 --> 05:34:15,148 much that cost is and I know that it's. >> it's 199,935. >> page 31. >> about some of the $100,000. 4794 05:34:15,148 --> 05:34:15,658 >> yes, close, ballpark. 4795 05:34:15,658 --> 05:34:15,766 >> thank you. 4796 05:34:15,766 --> 05:34:43,556 and that's carried. 4797 05:34:43,556 --> 05:34:46,242 so melissa, you have a question 4798 05:34:46,242 --> 05:34:51,662 from councillor bondy about where we are in regards to levy 4799 05:34:51,662 --> 05:34:53,196 amount? 4800 05:34:53,196 --> 05:35:04,755 do you need time to do that because we scheduled for a break break, and I believe it's just so that running totals can be kept in heads. On comfortable >> I'm comfortable doing I don't 4801 05:35:04,755 --> 05:35:05,295 busy women have the final motion 4802 05:35:05,295 --> 05:35:07,598 of regulation will make sure that all the number that correct 4803 05:35:07,598 --> 05:35:11,917 so right now, I had us reducing 4804 05:35:11,917 --> 05:35:14,054 16,800 her counsel remuneration 4805 05:35:14,054 --> 05:35:25,055 for that 2.5 percent increase have a reduction of 720,000 that we were putting towards the hospital reserve and then added 4806 05:35:25,055 --> 05:35:26,984 back to the levy specifically 4807 05:35:26,984 --> 05:35:41,005 is the pad position as well as the training hours, the eight hours of training hours so that brings us to 2.25% tax rate increase at this time. 4808 05:35:41,005 --> 05:35:52,882 >> any questions on those numbers at all no questions. 4809 05:35:52,882 --> 05:35:59,762 councillor walstedt. >> approve the budget, so moved 4810 05:35:59,762 --> 05:36:00,422 . Were out of here A don't know else to talk about 4811 05:36:00,422 --> 05:36:00,422 . 4812 05:36:00,422 --> 05:36:08,680 I don't need a break,. >> well, you know, what, they just need a minute. 4813 05:36:08,680 --> 05:36:12,799 can we take a break and then we 4814 05:36:12,799 --> 05:36:25,739 will come back to that amount through endless treatment -- come back to you and your statement. 4815 05:36:24,596 --> 05:36:25,739 We 4816 05:36:25,739 --> 05:36:25,739 come back to you and your statement. 4817 05:36:25,739 --> 05:36:28,303 We will do a 15 minute break, 4818 05:36:28,303 --> 05:36:35,819 can you be back here at 2:50, I need a motion councillor meloche 4819 05:36:35,819 --> 05:36:38,437 and councillor akpata I call in favour of a 15 minute break, opposed carried. 4820 05:36:51,967 --> 05:47:12,898 >> test. 4821 05:47:12,898 --> 05:52:01,215 we're at 2:50 and I'd like to resume the meeting. 4822 05:52:01,215 --> 05:52:13,749 councillor walstedt we have a 4823 05:52:13,749 --> 05:52:17,783 few folks who would like to include a few motions if you don't mind holding off. >> if they insist. [laughter] 4824 05:52:17,783 --> 05:52:22,120 >> thank you kind, sir,. 4825 05:52:22,120 --> 05:52:22,228 it's duly appreciated. 4826 05:52:22,228 --> 05:52:38,014 councillor bailey. >> I wanted to circle back to the group because we were talking about the 10161 kilometres we created in this region and I understand that we 4827 05:52:38,014 --> 05:52:42,445 do have the number I know I've been talking to my department throughout the day and having 4828 05:52:42,445 --> 05:52:42,604 some conversation so I know we 4829 05:52:42,604 --> 05:52:53,015 do have a number they purify also know that the dollars being asked for is just a bit of an earmark because it comes from the reserve and will not impact 4830 05:52:53,015 --> 05:52:54,718 the levy anyway but I did want 4831 05:52:54,718 --> 05:52:58,808 to be able to return back to the 4832 05:52:58,808 --> 05:53:00,968 c watts committee and groups as 4833 05:53:00,968 --> 05:53:04,071 we talk to them saying that we have reserved the dollars in the 4834 05:53:04,071 --> 05:53:07,149 reserve for that product and I 4835 05:53:07,149 --> 05:53:07,644 will ask it administration if 4836 05:53:07,644 --> 05:53:09,720 they can confirm the amount that 4837 05:53:09,720 --> 05:53:11,047 would be needed to be earmark 4838 05:53:11,047 --> 05:53:17,225 here at the county and I would like to make a motion to go ahead and proceed that we hold those dollars from the 4839 05:53:13,829 --> 05:53:17,225 Discussion 4840 05:53:17,225 --> 05:53:17,225 ahead and proceed that we hold those dollars from the 4841 05:53:17,225 --> 05:53:27,947 Discussion with c watts and that I could get a second or. >> thank you, three warden, is to expand a little bit on that 4842 05:53:27,947 --> 05:53:34,479 , we're referring to a c watts. Shoulder project in lakeshore along county road 42. 4843 05:53:34,479 --> 05:53:35,300 we have approximated the cost to 4844 05:53:35,300 --> 05:53:43,235 be somewhere between $625,700,000. 4845 05:53:43,235 --> 05:53:51,367 it's a cost shared segment between county and lakeshore. In this situation we will be adding a paved shoulder onto an 4846 05:53:51,367 --> 05:53:58,260 existing road and be part of our combined paving and paved shoulder project as a stand-alone paved shoulder. 4847 05:53:58,260 --> 05:54:03,071 so, if we went with a number of 4848 05:54:03,071 --> 05:54:08,937 625, the county's share would be approximately $375,000. 4849 05:54:08,937 --> 05:54:24,353 >> clerks will craft a motion 4850 05:54:24,353 --> 05:54:28,119 for you to look at before we move on if you're good with that, councillor bailey. 4851 05:54:28,119 --> 05:54:52,688 so counsellor if I can draw your attention to the motion that reads that essex county council 4852 05:54:52,688 --> 05:54:57,492 reserves 375,000 in the dedicated reserve for the c watts program. 4853 05:54:57,492 --> 05:55:01,148 are you good with that? Looking for a second or for that 4854 05:55:01,148 --> 05:55:02,643 motion. 4855 05:55:02,643 --> 05:55:06,243 it's moved by councillor bailey and seconded by councillor walstedt. 4856 05:55:06,243 --> 05:55:08,535 any comments or questions in regards to that motion? 4857 05:55:08,535 --> 05:55:17,881 councillor meloche. >> I have no problem reserving money in the reserve but I feel 4858 05:55:17,881 --> 05:55:28,608 like I'm lacking a lot of information regarding the c watts program and where that falls in the order of replacement or order of items to be done in 2026. Does not bump someone else that 4859 05:55:28,608 --> 05:55:29,367 we've already approved? 4860 05:55:29,367 --> 05:55:42,235 I know we don't have the report in front of us so I don't know that information off hand. >> thank you the recommendation 4861 05:55:42,235 --> 05:55:53,343 would be that we take this money from reserves so it wouldn't impact any of the other planned projects we have and this segment was not intended to be built for a few more years. 4862 05:55:53,343 --> 05:56:03,971 >> does it bump anyone I believe 4863 05:56:03,971 --> 05:56:06,849 was the question, into someone else's initiative -- does someone else's initiative get bumped? 4864 05:56:06,849 --> 05:56:11,516 >> three warden, that's what I 4865 05:56:11,516 --> 05:56:16,107 was saying, we wouldn't bump any projects if this money is taken from reserve. 4866 05:56:16,107 --> 05:56:19,108 we would continue with the planned project on this would be 4867 05:56:19,108 --> 05:56:23,774 an additional project but I'm sure melissa has a comment on 4868 05:56:23,774 --> 05:56:26,885 that >> so technically it would 4869 05:56:23,774 --> 05:56:26,885 Increase 4870 05:56:26,885 --> 05:56:26,885 that. >> so technically it would 4871 05:56:26,885 --> 05:56:32,908 Increase the program for 26 however that addition would be 4872 05:56:32,908 --> 05:56:35,315 roadway expansion funded so it 4873 05:56:35,315 --> 05:56:43,351 would not affect the levy but it does increase the entire program because the other projects are already in there and this would be an additional project added to that project list. 4874 05:56:43,351 --> 05:56:51,934 >> so it wouldn't be coming from 4875 05:56:51,934 --> 05:56:55,320 the c watts reserve is what you're saying then? 4876 05:56:55,320 --> 05:57:01,687 >> c watts doesn't utilize the roadway expansion reserve. 4877 05:57:01,687 --> 05:57:03,757 there is not its own specific 4878 05:57:03,757 --> 05:57:06,070 reserve yet so it's the roadway 4879 05:57:06,070 --> 05:57:06,567 expansion reserve that typically 4880 05:57:06,567 --> 05:57:07,759 funds then see what -- a portion 4881 05:57:07,759 --> 05:57:07,868 of the program. 4882 05:57:07,868 --> 05:57:14,072 so there's no c watts reserve. 4883 05:57:14,072 --> 05:57:14,227 it's roadway expansion. 4884 05:57:14,227 --> 05:57:18,121 >> so further, how much is enough reserve? 4885 05:57:18,121 --> 05:57:28,308 >> originally, it was about 56 million anticipated at the 4886 05:57:28,308 --> 05:57:32,486 end of 2026, if all the projects move forward as they are. As of right now. 4887 05:57:32,486 --> 05:57:41,402 so there would be about 56 million so any additional items that get approved would draw down on lot 56 million. 4888 05:57:41,402 --> 05:57:49,827 >> are you okay? councillor prue. 4889 05:57:49,827 --> 05:57:53,649 >> I want to make sure before I 4890 05:57:53,649 --> 05:57:56,085 tie up $375,000 in the county, 4891 05:57:56,085 --> 05:58:02,698 it's going to cost 300,000 approximately the lakeshore. 4892 05:58:02,698 --> 05:58:04,990 you have the money? 4893 05:58:04,990 --> 05:58:12,867 and you're willing to spend of this year that's what this is 4894 05:58:12,867 --> 05:58:12,867 about. 4895 05:58:12,867 --> 05:58:27,586 >> that question will go through me so I will look to you councillor bailey. >> I'm a quick learner. >> 3u yes indeed it will be considered in the budget tomorrow with the municipality 4896 05:58:27,586 --> 05:58:29,669 . >> in your budget you'll put 300,000 in? 4897 05:58:29,669 --> 05:58:34,042 >> yes so I'm asking the county to tap into their reserves for 4898 05:58:34,042 --> 05:58:38,107 300,000 and we have 56 million in there. 4899 05:58:38,107 --> 05:58:38,213 thank you. 4900 05:58:38,213 --> 05:58:42,499 >> my question is answered and 4901 05:58:42,499 --> 05:58:43,330 you secured my vote. 4902 05:58:43,330 --> 05:58:45,017 >> thank you. 4903 05:58:45,017 --> 05:58:49,064 another question, councillor deyong? 4904 05:58:49,064 --> 05:58:54,037 okay so there are no further questions then. 4905 05:58:54,037 --> 05:58:56,499 I'll ask you to vote electronically please. 4906 05:58:56,499 --> 05:59:31,313 and that's carried. >> I would like to bring through item 14 on our appendix three which is the traffic signal at  at county road 20 and martin lane. 4907 05:59:31,313 --> 05:59:32,082 when study was completed well 4908 05:59:32,082 --> 05:59:32,240 over a year ago I guess at the 4909 05:59:32,240 --> 05:59:36,458 time it was based on traffic 4910 05:59:36,458 --> 05:59:39,009 counts We hadn't changed the way we evaluated our intersections and 4911 05:59:39,009 --> 05:59:42,739 so I took the time to reach out 4912 05:59:42,739 --> 05:59:46,729 to our police chief to get some numbers to help us understand 4913 05:59:46,729 --> 05:59:48,368 that intersection I'm laughing it's important that we install the signal. 4914 05:59:48,368 --> 06:00:02,444 in january 1st of october 31st of this year the town of la  la salle had a worker can't traffic actions. Of those, 41% were on front road and 20% occurred right in that 4915 06:00:02,444 --> 06:00:06,489 zone that we're looking at install this light that the area 4916 06:00:06,489 --> 06:00:16,547 where the speed limit goes from 70 to 50 as we either enter it la salle or leave la salle and that intersection is 0.3% of the 4917 06:00:16,547 --> 06:00:18,293 total road for the entire town 4918 06:00:18,293 --> 06:00:20,041 yet represents over 6% of the traffic actions that take place in the town. 4919 06:00:20,041 --> 06:00:23,344 we've also had four accidents at 4920 06:00:23,344 --> 06:00:25,004 that intersection just this year 4921 06:00:25,004 --> 06:00:31,288 alone one just past the intersection was a fatality and 4922 06:00:31,288 --> 06:00:36,263 the intersections before and after have also seen several accidents throughout the 2025 year and so, that's a very busy 4923 06:00:36,263 --> 06:00:37,859 intersection for us. 4924 06:00:37,859 --> 06:00:40,529 it's a direct route through the 4925 06:00:40,529 --> 06:00:45,014 town and we find that people tend to speed right through that 4926 06:00:45,014 --> 06:00:48,295 area and it's very dangerous as we have a school known that road 4927 06:00:48,295 --> 06:00:51,912 and I watched the school buses constantly try to turn and get 4928 06:00:51,912 --> 06:00:53,662 in through the very high level 4929 06:00:53,662 --> 06:01:00,446 of traffic that travels from la  la salle to amherstburg or vice  vice versa and so I'm asking for support from council today to approve this intersection. 4930 06:01:00,446 --> 06:01:04,701 it's put as an estimated cost of 4931 06:01:04,701 --> 06:01:07,931 500,000. 4932 06:01:07,931 --> 06:01:09,459 and appendix three it asks to be levy funded. 4933 06:01:09,459 --> 06:01:13,672 I don't want it to be levy funded as we heard, our roadway expansion reserve is hefty and I 4934 06:01:13,672 --> 06:01:17,346 would like that we funded from 4935 06:01:17,346 --> 06:01:24,826 that reserve and get that intersection upgraded this year and that's my motion. >> we will come back to reading 4936 06:01:24,826 --> 06:01:26,132 the full motion butwill come back 4937 06:01:26,132 --> 06:01:26,808 I see that to reading the full melissa would like to speak to it. 4938 06:01:26,808 --> 06:01:27,709 melissa motion. 4939 06:01:27,709 --> 06:01:29,134 >> just point of clarification 4940 06:01:29,134 --> 06:01:29,525 . >> point of clarification. 4941 06:01:29,525 --> 06:01:32,883 ,so 6 million although the it's a 4942 06:01:32,883 --> 06:01:41,965 56 million, although it is a larger dollar larger amount, because of the roadway expansion plan we have planned over the next 20 years it will be depleted as of 4943 06:01:41,965 --> 06:01:43,465 2028. 4944 06:01:43,465 --> 06:01:46,091 just don't want it to be -- we 4945 06:01:46,091 --> 06:01:53,633 are nearing that target, I just wanted to add that. 4946 06:01:53,633 --> 06:01:53,857 >> any other comments or questions? 4947 06:01:53,857 --> 06:02:17,536 we are already updated,. >> so it will be approved for funding for the expansion reserve in 2026 and that is moved by councillor meloche, looking for a second. 4948 06:02:17,536 --> 06:02:17,536 deputy? 4949 06:02:17,536 --> 06:02:26,209 I will ask you to vote electronically, please. 4950 06:02:26,209 --> 06:02:44,777 that is carried. 4951 06:02:44,777 --> 06:02:50,850 deputy warden, do you have something you wanted to bring 4952 06:02:50,850 --> 06:02:50,850 forward? 4953 06:02:50,850 --> 06:03:03,557 >> just a question through the chief, I know the rank order hear that business states, so far we have approved numbers one one, can you get the correct numbers that were approved?  4954 06:03:03,557 --> 06:03:03,557 ? 4955 06:03:03,557 --> 06:03:09,732 there are two numbers. 4956 06:03:09,732 --> 06:03:22,914 >> they are listed on the screen 4957 06:03:22,914 --> 06:03:36,007 here, 918, line 19, line 23, 24, line one, line five and 14. 4958 06:03:36,007 --> 06:03:45,253 >> community programs coordinator, was that one of them and the command of operations was that one of them 4959 06:03:45,253 --> 06:03:45,253  them? 4960 06:03:45,253 --> 06:03:49,788 what about the second vehicle 4961 06:03:49,788 --> 06:03:49,849 service technician? 4962 06:03:49,849 --> 06:03:55,176 okay, I would like to see in terms of health care dollars I 4963 06:03:55,176 --> 06:04:11,471 know we the furred kept the budget for the hospital grant the same rate is 2025 and I know that there were six or seven cases that were presented by the chief if I can ask the chief of the ones that have been approved 4964 06:04:11,471 --> 06:04:18,420 if there's one market will elect to see one more at this year's 4965 06:04:18,420 --> 06:04:19,241 budget to compensate the health  4966 06:04:18,420 --> 06:04:19,241 Health care 4967 06:04:19,241 --> 06:04:19,241 budget to compensate the health  4968 06:04:19,241 --> 06:04:19,300 Health care dollars for health  health care 4969 06:04:19,300 --> 06:04:25,491 health care's without ems has the support and resources they were asking for. 4970 06:04:25,491 --> 06:04:30,028 I'm not sure if it item two or three that the chief could speak 4971 06:04:30,028 --> 06:04:33,906 to if he had to pick one more, 4972 06:04:33,906 --> 06:04:36,035 I would like to put that word is a motion. 4973 06:04:36,035 --> 06:04:54,489 >> through you warden, and discussions with the team, commander of operations line three >> may be can you share why that 4974 06:04:54,489 --> 06:04:56,736 would be important and how it 4975 06:04:56,736 --> 06:05:09,878 would impact your delivery of service >> the operations department right now is staffed by the deputy chief and frontline supervisors The debate if chief is monday 4976 06:05:09,878 --> 06:05:11,575 to friday and the others are on the shift. 4977 06:05:11,575 --> 06:05:18,488 ..they work monday, tuesday, these are nights, off wednesday 4978 06:05:18,488 --> 06:05:21,586 thursday or on the weekend. We don't have a running support 4979 06:05:21,586 --> 06:05:30,538 for the deputy chief to be able to follow through on things. Summit he starts working something up on monday, tuesday 4980 06:05:30,538 --> 06:05:30,760 then the off-line... 4981 06:05:30,760 --> 06:05:41,660 May be to have the we can off, falling back on the deputy chief, there's no support on constant monday to friday to allow him to function and to stay on top of operational issues. 4982 06:05:41,660 --> 06:05:43,626 it's a fast moving service 24/7 4983 06:05:43,626 --> 06:05:45,661 , things are happening every day, and night. 4984 06:05:45,337 --> 06:05:45,661 It 4985 06:05:45,661 --> 06:05:45,661 day and night. 4986 06:05:45,661 --> 06:05:49,266 It provide some capacity. >> thank you. 4987 06:05:49,266 --> 06:06:01,952 I'll put that word is a motion to include -- the volume of calls have increased significantly and I believe we need to provide support for this operation. 4988 06:06:01,952 --> 06:06:24,045 I'll delete make that as a motion >> that motion is that the command of operations be added to the 2026 essex-windsor budget 4989 06:06:24,045 --> 06:06:24,045  budget... 4990 06:06:24,045 --> 06:06:30,766 The treasurer's report to be divided with the weight of assistant formula that 4991 06:06:30,766 --> 06:06:35,477 is moved by counsellor deputy warden looking for a 4992 06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:41,192 second, councillor mcnamara. 4993 06:06:41,192 --> 06:06:49,914 I'm asking you to vote electronically please. 4994 06:06:49,914 --> 06:06:58,974 >> -- I was -- at this point I 4995 06:06:58,974 --> 06:07:10,229 believe that this is 12 staff members that will be asking the city to cofund at 50 percent, 4996 06:07:10,229 --> 06:07:10,229 correct? 4997 06:07:10,229 --> 06:07:16,973 overall, from the county, there were 11 positions and added back 4998 06:07:16,973 --> 06:07:27,859 in with the pad coordinator so that would be 12 and then I believe that said. 4999 06:07:27,859 --> 06:07:32,296 that's it for positions however from that there were few human 5000 06:07:32,296 --> 06:07:37,059 resources position oneness have between ems and halfs and part 5001 06:07:37,059 --> 06:07:37,890 of our homes. 5002 06:07:37,890 --> 06:07:39,100 the 25% of that portion would be 5003 06:07:39,100 --> 06:07:40,256 covered by the city 5004 06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:40,256 . 5005 06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:46,545 in the ms positions would be that way of assessment. >> thank you for that. 5006 06:07:46,545 --> 06:07:53,552 I know it's great work and I know overtime is going to be needed. 5007 06:07:51,148 --> 06:07:53,552 We are really 5008 06:07:53,552 --> 06:07:53,552 know overtime is going to be needed. 5009 06:07:53,552 --> 06:07:56,658 We are really looking out at to 5010 06:07:56,658 --> 06:08:01,313 eat an elephant because we saw the master plans and the cost needed for services like these. 5011 06:08:01,313 --> 06:08:03,719 are hard ones to deal with the 5012 06:08:03,719 --> 06:08:08,421 is numbers of council. Were trying to eat too many pieces Certainly bridging the gap makes 5013 06:08:08,421 --> 06:08:10,395 sense but during the gap to this 5014 06:08:10,395 --> 06:08:20,704 extent and one fiscal calendar year I think it's a whole lot did you I'm going to be opposing the motion on the table. >> thank you. 5015 06:08:20,704 --> 06:08:21,637 councillor prue? 5016 06:08:21,637 --> 06:08:33,446 >> as I said to a few people today I've never been to a budget like this before in my 30 some years where everybody is 5017 06:08:33,446 --> 06:08:41,635 adding into the budget. Usually cancels it around -- council sit around and put it 5018 06:08:41,635 --> 06:08:41,748 at an acceptable level. 5019 06:08:41,748 --> 06:08:45,592 right now it's acceptable at 2.25. 5020 06:08:45,592 --> 06:08:52,725 I understand what the ms wants, I understand and appreciate what they want. 5021 06:08:52,725 --> 06:08:58,519 my wife and I both used their service in the last two years, they are excellent but I want 5022 06:08:58,519 --> 06:08:59,393 to tell you, when you have a wish 5023 06:08:59,393 --> 06:09:14,985 list that is vetted by senior management and is not there for a reason, it's not there because they didn't feel they could do it and come in with a budget that was reasonable. Had never seen anyone just go, 5024 06:09:14,985 --> 06:09:18,207 right down the list and say they 5025 06:09:18,207 --> 06:09:20,079 want all these things can just give it to them. I have never seen it. 5026 06:09:20,079 --> 06:09:29,641 no conscience even though it might be valuable, it will still be there next year and if we have the money next year then we 5027 06:09:29,641 --> 06:09:31,227 should spend it then. 5028 06:09:31,227 --> 06:09:33,075 I don't often care what happens 5029 06:09:33,075 --> 06:09:42,392 because they don't treat us very almost often but I can understand what councillor bailey's house to say here. 5030 06:09:42,392 --> 06:09:53,490 you go and tell them... Is not going to bode well to continue negotiations if they ever do take place. 5031 06:09:53,490 --> 06:09:58,960 I don't think it's the wrong way to do it. I appreciate it's on the wish 5032 06:09:58,960 --> 06:10:08,872 list but not all wishes come true All not -- I will now be supporting this. >> I am not sure if adding that 5033 06:10:08,872 --> 06:10:17,433 position like to point to 5% right now, do we know what it would be if we added this position? 5034 06:10:17,433 --> 06:10:21,061 as I understand, I'm seeing both sides, I really am. 5035 06:10:21,061 --> 06:10:23,323 it's a bit of a hard one for me 5036 06:10:23,323 --> 06:10:34,210 because I supported ems, I see there is so much value added and 5037 06:10:34,210 --> 06:10:37,281 everyone over family members and ourselves are going to need them at some point. 5038 06:10:37,281 --> 06:10:40,342 I am inclined to support this 5039 06:10:40,342 --> 06:10:41,450 because I have always supported 5040 06:10:41,450 --> 06:10:46,068 ems and if it's not supported 5041 06:10:46,068 --> 06:10:46,182 I do hope that 5042 06:10:46,182 --> 06:10:53,176 our chief may bring it back to us, it's an extra need. 5043 06:10:53,176 --> 06:11:01,619 I do believe that administration came to us with a really low-budget because they read the room it's an election year, the 5044 06:11:01,619 --> 06:11:02,540 red the room and they wanted to 5045 06:11:02,540 --> 06:11:13,994 get as many of their things past as they could but I believe administration pulled a lot of items out of the budget to get that around 3%. 5046 06:11:13,994 --> 06:11:15,793 do I think there is some needs 5047 06:11:15,793 --> 06:11:19,727 in the list that -- or someone 5048 06:11:19,727 --> 06:11:28,047 's -- I don't know, I don't want to slip backwards and we are going 5049 06:11:28,047 --> 06:11:29,689 in the right direction. 5050 06:11:29,689 --> 06:11:32,481 did I talk long enough to get you that number? no? 5051 06:11:32,481 --> 06:11:41,444 >> through you warden, adding 5052 06:11:41,444 --> 06:11:41,564 that position would move us from 5053 06:11:41,564 --> 06:11:48,110 2.25% to 3.2%. 5054 06:11:48,110 --> 06:11:51,681 the tax policy doesn't get approved until february so that 5055 06:11:51,681 --> 06:11:55,299 can slightly change. 5056 06:11:55,299 --> 06:12:03,871 as it stands right now we would meet moving from 2.25% to 2.32% 5057 06:12:03,871 --> 06:12:10,347 . >> anyone else In that case will ask you to both electronically please, for the motion. 5058 06:12:10,347 --> 06:12:26,877 and that is lost. Councillor deyong? 5059 06:12:26,877 --> 06:12:30,037 >> may be last but not least I 5060 06:12:30,037 --> 06:12:33,713 would like to make a motion for 5061 06:12:33,713 --> 06:12:51,821 appendix three. >> it's the traffic signal  signal county 23. 5062 06:12:51,821 --> 06:13:10,769 >> just to confirm roadway expansion. 5063 06:13:10,769 --> 06:13:43,647 so the motion is that the traffic signal be added to the 5064 06:13:43,647 --> 06:13:56,487 2026 infrastructure and planning services budget is outlined on line ten of the appendix three of the treasury's report and that is moved by counsellor the young looking for a seconder. Councillor meloche? 5065 06:13:56,487 --> 06:14:00,596 [simultaneous talking] 5066 06:14:00,596 --> 06:14:02,404 >> a la it over again, sorry. 5067 06:14:02,404 --> 06:14:07,760 revised, refreshed, is the motion that the traffic signal 5068 06:14:07,760 --> 06:14:12,904 be approved and funded from the 5069 06:14:12,904 --> 06:14:17,594 road to expansion reserving 2026 2026. 5070 06:14:17,594 --> 06:14:24,979 that is moved by councillor deyong and second by councillor 5071 06:14:24,979 --> 06:14:30,673 meloche >> may be you will have deja vu 5072 06:14:30,673 --> 06:14:36,339 from a few minutes ago, but I'll try to keep it specific. From the comments on the report 5073 06:14:36,339 --> 06:14:40,060 there has been 19 collisions including a fatality and multiple major injuries. 5074 06:14:40,060 --> 06:14:45,425 the intersection already has oversight stop signs and flashing red beacons that are 5075 06:14:45,425 --> 06:14:52,990 not preventing these incidences. At the stretch of road is pretty 5076 06:14:52,990 --> 06:14:56,706 much a clear way connecting kingsville to harrow, there's 5077 06:14:56,706 --> 06:14:56,764 not anything really slowing 5078 06:14:56,706 --> 06:14:56,764 People 5079 06:14:56,764 --> 06:14:56,764 not anything really slowing 5080 06:14:56,764 --> 06:15:00,760 People down the hall stretch and 5081 06:15:00,760 --> 06:15:15,680 in addition to the faculty at the actual intersection there has been two deaths just this year on either side of this intersection I think having a light that makes people aware that this is a place where other things happened besides just a 5082 06:15:15,680 --> 06:15:25,853 straight through will make that safer because people will have to slow down for the site and against 5083 06:15:25,853 --> 06:15:33,798 at something similarly funded but does it say one time expense. >> any comments or questions? 5084 06:15:33,798 --> 06:15:41,611 councillor bailey. >> I was feverishly trying to go through my other notes from my 5085 06:15:41,611 --> 06:15:43,201 briefcase because I do believe 5086 06:15:43,201 --> 06:15:47,744 that this was assessed and it was on the list that we received but I'm wondering where it was 5087 06:15:47,744 --> 06:16:12,226 at on that list. >> page 33, number 10. >> sorry, I was referring to the project list. And will turn to the director. 5088 06:16:12,226 --> 06:16:28,000 >> through you, I think I found 5089 06:16:28,000 --> 06:16:30,303 it here, number 42 on that vehicle list. 5090 06:16:30,303 --> 06:16:37,003 I think my only question would be when these were ranked as the top 100 intersections they were 5091 06:16:37,003 --> 06:16:51,589 ranked in a priority reading of this number. I see it sounded appendix b, I 5092 06:16:51,589 --> 06:16:52,410 see it was ranked significantly 5093 06:16:52,410 --> 06:17:11,373 lower than many of the others so I'm just wondering if you can speak to that. >> do you want to speak too? 5094 06:17:11,373 --> 06:17:13,142 >> I remember we have dollars 5095 06:17:13,142 --> 06:17:17,763 in -- for the design of it in 2025, 5096 06:17:17,763 --> 06:17:19,512 so maybe that's why it's on a 5097 06:17:19,512 --> 06:17:24,994 project last seen but we do have the design dollars, this would be the construction dollars from 5098 06:17:24,994 --> 06:17:27,298 my understanding when we had a conversation around this because I did see it on the report. 5099 06:17:27,298 --> 06:17:31,874 it was designed dollars not construction dollars. 5100 06:17:31,874 --> 06:17:37,043 >> do we still need an answer 5101 06:17:37,043 --> 06:17:38,571 or are you okay? 5102 06:17:38,571 --> 06:17:41,198 thanks for looking, allen. 5103 06:17:41,198 --> 06:17:45,351 no other questions then? 5104 06:17:45,351 --> 06:17:47,200 can we get a seconder? 5105 06:17:47,200 --> 06:17:51,667 I did not write it down, who was it? 5106 06:17:51,667 --> 06:18:03,343 we are looking to -- 5107 06:18:03,343 --> 06:18:03,343 [indiscernible] 5108 06:18:03,343 --> 06:18:08,711 all right, then we are looking to vote on the motion. 5109 06:18:08,711 --> 06:18:30,167 that is carried, thank you. 5110 06:18:30,167 --> 06:18:40,672 so, are there any other additions If not, we are at the point in time where we could actually 5111 06:18:40,672 --> 06:18:59,771 vote for the final budget. There is recommendation that the essex county council... Approves the amount of -- do you have a final number? 5112 06:18:59,771 --> 06:18:59,771 okay. 5113 06:18:59,771 --> 06:19:09,995 it got smaller, hang on a second second. 5114 06:18:59,771 --> 06:19:09,995 A hundred 5115 06:19:09,995 --> 06:19:09,995 it got smaller, hang on a second second. 5116 06:19:09,995 --> 06:19:19,164 A hundred and 45 million, hundred and 44,000, 150. 5117 06:19:19,164 --> 06:19:21,954 >> what she said. 5118 06:19:21,954 --> 06:19:25,671 looking for a mover and seconder 5119 06:19:25,671 --> 06:19:25,671  seconder. 5120 06:19:25,671 --> 06:19:30,590 any discussion on the motion? 5121 06:19:30,590 --> 06:19:34,965 did you want me to read it again 5122 06:19:34,965 --> 06:19:34,965  again? 5123 06:19:34,965 --> 06:19:38,075 I'll read it again. 5124 06:19:38,075 --> 06:20:07,586 >> there it is, the motion is that the county council approves as amended the overall proposed 5125 06:20:07,586 --> 06:20:07,919 2026v requirement for the county 5126 06:20:07,919 --> 06:20:16,744 of essex in the amount of $145,144,950 most 5127 06:20:16,744 --> 06:20:31,005 $145,144,950 -- moved by councillor deyong. I'll ask you to vote electronically please. 5128 06:20:31,005 --> 06:20:41,730 that is carried unanimously. 5129 06:20:41,730 --> 06:20:41,843 well done. 5130 06:20:41,843 --> 06:20:48,529 there are no items of unfinished 5131 06:20:48,529 --> 06:20:48,587 business. 5132 06:20:48,587 --> 06:20:52,255 for consideration for december 5133 06:20:52,255 --> 06:20:53,897  december third 2025, any other 5134 06:20:53,897 --> 06:20:54,104 mark 5135 06:20:53,897 --> 06:20:54,104 Matters 5136 06:20:54,104 --> 06:20:54,104 mark 5137 06:20:54,104 --> 06:20:55,566 Matters of new business to bring 5138 06:20:55,566 --> 06:20:56,719 forward? 5139 06:20:56,719 --> 06:21:01,472 >> it's just wondering where we 5140 06:21:01,472 --> 06:21:16,896 stand with meeting with the hospital because we talked about it here at budget, we talked about it and I'm wondering if there's any follow-up from and mr. And from having that's joint meeting, please and thanks. >> I know we attempted twice this fall to 5141 06:21:16,896 --> 06:21:19,159 have a joint meeting with the city to have a 5142 06:21:19,159 --> 06:21:22,332 presentation about the hospital 5143 06:21:22,332 --> 06:21:33,783 . Information hasn't been finalized from that group and speaking with administration both of the city and with windsor regional hospital we 5144 06:21:33,783 --> 06:21:38,871 want to make sure this joint meeting is as meaningful and productive as possible for both of our councils. 5145 06:21:38,871 --> 06:21:48,876 we had this conversation... It's expected that windsor regional in operation with the 5146 06:21:48,876 --> 06:21:49,091 province had more concrete 5147 06:21:48,876 --> 06:21:49,091 Information 5148 06:21:49,091 --> 06:21:49,091 province had more concrete 5149 06:21:49,091 --> 06:21:51,006 Information to share with us publicly in the new year. 5150 06:21:51,006 --> 06:21:58,552 at something we are definitely still in connection with both 5151 06:21:58,552 --> 06:22:00,466 windsor regional in the city of windsor on this topic. 5152 06:22:00,466 --> 06:22:01,988 and wanting to make sure that the foregoing to bring in every 5153 06:22:01,988 --> 06:22:09,462 bite in the room together, it's a worthwhile conversation Stay tuned and the hope is that 5154 06:22:09,462 --> 06:22:10,603 in q1 of 2026 we will be able 5155 06:22:10,603 --> 06:22:13,116 to record eight that joint meeting 5156 06:22:13,116 --> 06:22:18,427 . >> anyone else or new business 5157 06:22:18,427 --> 06:22:18,427 ? 5158 06:22:18,427 --> 06:22:20,326 seeing him, there's one bylaw 5159 06:22:20,326 --> 06:22:29,135 for the kenny consideration this afternoon that will be read by the county clerk. >> bylaw number 2025, being a 5160 06:22:29,135 --> 06:22:45,885 pilot you can from proceedings of the council of the corporation For december  december third 2025. >> motion is a recommendation that counsel -- bylaw two '02 5161 06:22:45,885 --> 06:22:45,941 553 be given through readings 5162 06:22:45,885 --> 06:22:45,941 And 5163 06:22:45,941 --> 06:22:45,941 553 be given through readings 5164 06:22:45,941 --> 06:22:50,483 And have being read a second and 5165 06:22:50,483 --> 06:22:50,598 third time, finally passed and 5166 06:22:50,598 --> 06:22:53,813 enacted looking for a mover and 5167 06:22:53,813 --> 06:22:53,869 seconder. 5168 06:22:53,869 --> 06:23:03,280 counselor mcnamara, second by -- you'll have to vote electronically. 5169 06:23:03,280 --> 06:23:20,743 that is carried. 5170 06:23:20,743 --> 06:23:24,901 any notices of motion to be introduced for december third 5171 06:23:24,901 --> 06:23:24,901 2025? 5172 06:23:24,901 --> 06:23:28,403 seeing non, all matters of businesses have been addressed 5173 06:23:28,403 --> 06:23:33,043 . The motion is that essex county 5174 06:23:33,043 --> 06:23:36,871 council meeting for december  december third 2025 to be adjourned at 3:22 p.m. 5175 06:23:36,871 --> 06:23:46,580 moved bank councillor gibb, counsellor verbeke, that is carried, thank you.