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>> good morning, everyone.

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I would like to call the   december

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december third 2025 essex county

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council

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council meeting to order.

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council is gathered this morning

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to

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to deliberate the 2026 budget.

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we will invite everyone to join

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council

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council and administration as

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we   take

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take this time for a moment of

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reflection

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reflection.

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that will lead into the playing

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of

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of our national anthem.

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[o canada playing, instrumental]

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[o canada playing, instrumental]

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we acknowledge the land on which

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the county of essex is located

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is the traditional territory of

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the three fires confederacy of

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first nations, comprised of the

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ojibway, odawa and potawatomie

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peoples.

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we specifically recognize

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caldwell first nation and other

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first nations which have

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provided significant historical

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and contemporary contributions

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to this region.

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we also value the contributions

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of all original peoples of

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turtle island

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who have been living and working

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on this land from time

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immemorial.

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>> is a look around the table,

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I   see

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see all-county members are   around

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around the table this morning.

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again, good morning.

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welcome to what we hope is a --

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I'm

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I'm trying to think what p word

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is good.

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>> productive.

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>> productive, thank you.

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a productive day this morning.

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without too much pain, shall we

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put

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put it that way.

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the county's strategic plan   calls

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calls for the county of essex

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to   be

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be a regional champion   delivering

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delivering services for the   success

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success of our local communities

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and

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and residents.

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that plan also calls for us to

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be

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be a powerhouse in public and

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private investment attraction

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I   investing

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investing in quality   infrastructure

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infrastructure and creating   conditions

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conditions conducive to economic

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growth

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growth.

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the county of essex staff built

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the

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the proposed 2026 budget in   response

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response to the strategic   priorities

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priorities that we as council

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set

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set and they did so in a   challenging

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challenging economic environment

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while

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while trying to maintain service

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levels

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I thank them for their   dedication

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dedication and hard work.

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now it's time for us to get to

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work

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work.

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I know we are up for the task.

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reviewing and setting the budget

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is one of the most important   jobs

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jobs that council performs and

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I   am

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am looking forward to the   discussions

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discussions around this table

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as   we

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we chart our course for 2026 and

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beyond

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beyond.

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before we get started, just a

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little

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little notes.

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if we have moments in the   discussion

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discussion process where we   asked

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asked the finance department for

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certain

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certain numbers or certain   adjustments

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adjustments, instead of us just

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sitting

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sitting then, perhaps we will

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take a little break at that time

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  time.

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  time.

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I think that keeps us moving a

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little bit, getting up and down

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and it also, it doesn't put the

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pressure

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pressure on our ladies at the

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finance

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finance table.

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if that's okay with you, I think

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we will proceed in that manner

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thank you.

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any disclosures of pecuniary   interest

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interest around the table this

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morning

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morning?

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seen none.

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if at any point during the   proceedings

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proceedings, matter is raised

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for

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for which a member has an   interest

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interest which is pecuniary, of

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decoration

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decoration can be made.

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no minutes for council's   consideration

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consideration and no delegations

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  delegations.

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  delegations.

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one piece of correspondence   received

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received in relation to the 2026

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draft

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draft budget.

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does anyone want to discuss that

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item

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item further?

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I am seeing none.

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the recommendation is that the

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correspondence

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correspondence listed on the   regular

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regular agenda for december  december third,

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december third, 2025, we   received

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received.

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looking for a mover and a second

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life

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life.

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moved by councilor verbeke,   seconded

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seconded by councilor meloche.

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any discussion?

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all in favour by show of hands

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that is carried.

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thank you.

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no resolutions for consideration

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  consideration.

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  consideration.

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under consent, there are two   items

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items listed for december third

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anything there that council   would

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would like to discuss further?

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there is a recommendation that

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the recommendations included in

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the reports listed as items 11.1

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and 11.2 on the consent agenda

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for

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for december third, 2025 be   approved

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approved.

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looking for a mover and a second

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her

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her.

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councilor mcnamara any   discussion

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discussion?

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all in favour that is carried

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as   part

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part of the deliberations there

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is one report for council to   consider

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consider and it is the county

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of   essex

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essex 2026 advocacy priorities

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for that report we turn to our

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cao, sandra zwiers.

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>> thank you, gordon.

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before I get into my report, I

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do want to make a few opening

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remarks about this year's budget

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  budget.

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first and foremost, I want to

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thank this council.

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your support and encouragement

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to staff over this past year has

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really meant a lot to the team

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providing public service is not

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easy.

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but it is made easier when we

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know as staff that we have the

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support

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support of our council.

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this year, we really want to   extend

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extend our things as we get into

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what

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what is likely going to be a   tough

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tough day today.

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but we want to certainly start

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with thanks to council.

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I also want to extend sincere

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thanks to the entire leadership

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team

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team here at the county.

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it does take a village to   prepare

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prepare a budget.

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this process started many, many

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everyone in this room and many

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who are not in this room   contributed

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contributed to the success of

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the

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the document you are going to

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see today.

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this was a challenging year, as

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the warden noted.

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with cost pressures affecting

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every aspect of our operations

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our staff across all departments

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deserve

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deserve recognition for crafting

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a

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a fiscally responsible budget

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that

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that stays through to joe's   stays

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stays true.

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staff carefully assess whether

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every

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every dollar could have the   greatest

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greatest impact and maintaining

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vital

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vital services will making   significant

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significant, targeted   investments

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investments in health care, and

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and public safety.

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your admin team has tried to do

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the heavy lifting for you today

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hopefully you will see that this

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budget has tried to weigh   spending

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spending against the risk of   deferral

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deferral.

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it presents a budget that is in

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line

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line with inflation while   maintaining

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maintaining the levels of   service

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service our county residents   demand

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demand.

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each year, we do truck try to

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improve

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improve upon the process and we

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tried

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tried that once again this year

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.

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part of the role that I tried

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to   play

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play in helping the team was   meeting

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meeting with each of county   council

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council throughout the year to

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have

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have discussions on what your

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budget

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budget priorities were, and   suggestions

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suggestions for improvement on

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the

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the process.

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and so again, I want to thank

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council

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council for your engagement in

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those

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those meetings and the valuable

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insights

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insights and suggestions that

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you

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you gave that helped form the

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experience

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experience we hope you will   enjoy

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enjoy today.

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the goal of any budget is to   action

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action our strategic plan, as

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the

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the warden said.

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this budget we feel does support

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a

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a number of key strategies in

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our

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our plan.

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that takes me to the report that

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is

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is in your agenda package this

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morning

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morning.

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as promised at our last council

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meeting

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meeting, we are looking to   formalize

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formalize our advocacy approach

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in

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in both a policy as well as   formalizing

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formalizing advocacy priorities

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for

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for council as we enter in to

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26  26.

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26  26.

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the report this morning does   seek

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seek council's input and   direction

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direction for a focused of   cacique

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cacique campaign for next year

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.

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on the second page of my report

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,   you

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you will see a number of   proposed

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proposed advocacy priorities for

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your

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your consideration today.

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these priorities speak to   specific

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specific needs within the county

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but

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but they are also aligned quite

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nicely

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nicely with the advocacy   approaches

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approaches and priorities of   agencies

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agencies above us.

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so amo, the western ontario   warden

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warden's caucus, and most   importantly

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importantly, the province.

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it is important that what we do

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here

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here mina simply does aligned

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with

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with provincial priorities.

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each of these priorities has   been

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been incorporated to some   varying

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varying degree in the proposed

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budget

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budget you are going to get a

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walk-through

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walk-through today.

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very quickly, these are outlined

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in

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in the report, improving   mobility

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mobility and roadway capacity.

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our road network is vital to the

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linkages

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linkages and economy in our   region

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region.

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you will see a focused there.

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ensuring safe, affordable homes

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as

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as a foundation for sustainable

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community

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community growth.

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as you know in 2025, we   completed

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completed our regional   affordable

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affordable housing strategy and

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we

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we are looking to advance those

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conversations

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conversations with our locals,

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and

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and see what we can do is a   region

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region to help move the housing

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goals

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goals forward.

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the third is improving access

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to   health care

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health care and paramedic   service

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service modernization.

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we have a number of our ems   folks

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folks in the audience as well

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today

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today, and we have a fantastic

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group

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group at our long-term care home

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as

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as well.

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we are looking to really focus

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our

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our efforts and optimize the   scarce

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scarce resources we have to   provide

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provide those services.

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the fourth item we are looking

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to

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to focus on in 2026 is advancing

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environmental

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environmental stewardship.

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as you know, our geography is

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unique

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unique in the province when we

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are

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are surrounded by great lakes

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and

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and with that joy and   environmental

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environmental luxury does come

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some

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some specific challenges for our

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region

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region, particularly in the form

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of

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of flooding and shoreline   erosion

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erosion, and also wanting to be

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prepared

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prepared from an emergency   management

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management perspective.

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the fifth item we've identified

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for

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for council's consideration is

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economic

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economic development trade   stability

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stability.

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it is no surprise and we've said

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this

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this many times during 2025, the

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impacts

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impacts of tariffs and   cross-border

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cross-border trade tensions   impact

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impact the essex county region

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more

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more amplified then I either   other

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other areas of the province.

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as a county government, we're

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looking

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looking to make sure the   province

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province is aware of our issues

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and

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and we are representing the   needs

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needs of our business community

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.

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in the report, you will see a

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number

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number of advocacy opportunities

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for

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for next year.

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we are looking to delegate at

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various

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various conferences, at roma and

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amo

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amo as usual.

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also looking to participate in

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the

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the western ontario wardens   caucus

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caucus queen's park today, which

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would

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would be a new event for us in

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the

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the spring.

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of course ongoing meetings and

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intentional

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intentional conversations with

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our

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our local mps and mpps.

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in terms of next steps, council

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with

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with your direction today, we

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would

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would be action inc. These   priorities

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priorities in terms of print   materials

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materials and information on our

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public

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public facing social media and

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and county

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and county website.

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in terms of financial   considerations

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considerations, while there is

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an

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an element of cost, we have   waived

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waived these against the   proposed

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proposed budget and we are   confident

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confident the proposed budget

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includes

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includes enough funding to   action

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action the strategies we've   outlined

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outlined for council   consideration

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consideration today.

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the report this morning does   give

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give council a bit of meat on

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the

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the bone to chew on but   certainly

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certainly we are looking to   council

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council to get your input and

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your

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your official direction on the

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advocacy

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advocacy priorities you would

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like

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like to see in 2026.

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with that, I would be happy to

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answer

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answer any of your questions.

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>> thank you.

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any questions for administration

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  administration?

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  administration?

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councilor prue.

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>> thank you, madame borden.

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I read with some interest the

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delegation

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delegation to go to queen's park

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.

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it seemed like it wasn't funded

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by

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by very much.

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is that because we are going   with

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with the western ontario wardens

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so

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so -- I'm just trying to figure

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it

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it out.

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it's only $4000.

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>> yes, we considered this   activity

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activity on our own as a county

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government

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government.

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there was considerable cost   associated

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associated with that and never

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.

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we did learn late this fall that

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the

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the western ontario wardens   caucus

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caucus does an annual queen's

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park

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park day, and in 2026, they are

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inviting

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inviting all members to display

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a

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a table, have a booth, and we

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can

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can essentially piggyback on   their

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their efforts to set up an   advocacy

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advocacy day at queen's park.

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it certainly has reduced the   cost

602
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cost for the county and we are

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leveraging

604
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leveraging our membership to   make

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make that happen.

606
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>> thank you.

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having attended hundreds of   these

608
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these things in my years at   queen's

609
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queen's park, they tend to be

610
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rather

611
00:14:58,878 --> 00:14:59,366
rather large affairs.

612
00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:06,475
the tables showcase products and

613
00:15:06,475 --> 00:15:06,743
services

614
00:15:06,743 --> 00:15:07,948
services from each of the   regions

615
00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:07,948
regions.

616
00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:13,474
I would imagine we would take

617
00:15:13,474 --> 00:15:13,474
down

618
00:15:13,474 --> 00:15:15,037
down wine and other things that

619
00:15:15,037 --> 00:15:15,289
are

620
00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:16,025
are from the region.

621
00:15:16,025 --> 00:15:19,636
is that the intent?

622
00:15:19,636 --> 00:15:21,277
that we have that kind of stuff

623
00:15:21,277 --> 00:15:21,528
to

624
00:15:21,528 --> 00:15:21,793
to showcase?

625
00:15:21,793 --> 00:15:25,814
to showcase texas county?

626
00:15:25,814 --> 00:15:28,015
>> planning is in the early   stages

627
00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:28,015
stages.

628
00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:31,008
we will work quite closely with

629
00:15:31,008 --> 00:15:31,259
the

630
00:15:31,259 --> 00:15:33,662
the staff to make sure what we

631
00:15:33,662 --> 00:15:33,895
are

632
00:15:33,895 --> 00:15:34,837
are delivering to represent   essex

633
00:15:34,837 --> 00:15:36,151
essex county is comparable to

634
00:15:36,151 --> 00:15:36,151
what

635
00:15:36,151 --> 00:15:40,801
what other members are doing   that

636
00:15:40,801 --> 00:15:42,544
that conversation will take   place

637
00:15:42,544 --> 00:15:43,298
place administratively and   certainly

638
00:15:43,298 --> 00:15:44,713
certainly as appropriate, we can

639
00:15:44,713 --> 00:15:44,964
bring

640
00:15:44,964 --> 00:15:46,986
bring back a proposal to county

641
00:15:46,986 --> 00:15:47,205
council

642
00:15:47,205 --> 00:15:48,433
council so county council is   aware

643
00:15:48,433 --> 00:15:49,627
aware of the level of effort.

644
00:15:49,627 --> 00:15:51,705
it certainly is an opportunity

645
00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:52,601
that

646
00:15:52,601 --> 00:15:54,223
that county is representing   seven

647
00:15:54,223 --> 00:15:55,055
seven local municipalities and

648
00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:55,289
so

649
00:15:55,289 --> 00:15:57,183
so while they are looking to   showcase

650
00:15:57,183 --> 00:15:58,153
showcase the county of essex   proper

651
00:15:58,153 --> 00:16:00,261
proper, it is a really nice   opportunity

652
00:16:00,261 --> 00:16:01,263
opportunity to showcase what is

653
00:16:01,263 --> 00:16:01,515
happening

654
00:16:01,515 --> 00:16:02,737
happening in each of our seven

655
00:16:02,737 --> 00:16:02,960
locals

656
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:02,960
locals.

657
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,591
we will be in touch with   administrative

658
00:16:04,591 --> 00:16:05,780
administrative teams as well to

659
00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:06,015
see

660
00:16:06,015 --> 00:16:07,816
see how we can best leverage   this

661
00:16:07,816 --> 00:16:08,069
this opportunity.

662
00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:10,555
>> are you confident that the

663
00:16:10,555 --> 00:16:10,555
amount

664
00:16:10,555 --> 00:16:11,784
amount set aside, which I think

665
00:16:11,784 --> 00:16:12,020
is

666
00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:12,973
is fairly small, a sufficient?

667
00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:14,822
>> we are confident.

668
00:16:14,822 --> 00:16:15,116
>> thank you.

669
00:16:15,116 --> 00:16:17,082
>> anyone else?

670
00:16:17,082 --> 00:16:22,183
councilor akpata.

671
00:16:22,183 --> 00:16:23,814
>> I appreciate this.

672
00:16:23,814 --> 00:16:25,967
I'm wondering if we are looking

673
00:16:25,967 --> 00:16:26,218
at

674
00:16:26,218 --> 00:16:28,345
at doing outside of the box   final

675
00:16:28,345 --> 00:16:29,608
final engagements because our

676
00:16:29,608 --> 00:16:29,608
minister

677
00:16:29,608 --> 00:16:30,864
minister polities have been   impacted

678
00:16:30,864 --> 00:16:31,577
impacted by international   decisions

679
00:16:31,577 --> 00:16:32,609
decisions with his -- which is

680
00:16:32,609 --> 00:16:32,842
the

681
00:16:32,842 --> 00:16:34,002
the exclusive purview of the   federal

682
00:16:34,002 --> 00:16:34,237
federal government.

683
00:16:34,237 --> 00:16:38,057
even in our own facilities,   we've

684
00:16:38,057 --> 00:16:39,467
we've seen cost rise beyond the

685
00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:39,702
scope

686
00:16:39,702 --> 00:16:41,499
scope of what the province can

687
00:16:41,499 --> 00:16:41,747
do

688
00:16:41,747 --> 00:16:41,747
do.

689
00:16:41,747 --> 00:16:43,854
I'm wondering through you,   madame

690
00:16:43,854 --> 00:16:46,101
madame borden, if the ceo has

691
00:16:46,101 --> 00:16:46,101
any

692
00:16:46,101 --> 00:16:47,613
any ideas that may help all of

693
00:16:47,613 --> 00:16:47,830
us

694
00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:47,830
us?

695
00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:51,717
>> through you, worden, you will

696
00:16:51,717 --> 00:16:51,967
notice

697
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:53,809
notice one of the items in the

698
00:16:53,809 --> 00:16:54,057
list

699
00:16:54,057 --> 00:16:56,097
list is meetings with mps and

700
00:16:56,097 --> 00:16:56,097
mpps

701
00:16:56,097 --> 00:16:56,097
mpps.

702
00:16:56,097 --> 00:16:58,072
mpps is something we have   historically

703
00:16:58,072 --> 00:17:00,219
historically focused on and   councilor

704
00:17:00,219 --> 00:17:02,224
councilor akpata, you are   correct

705
00:17:02,224 --> 00:17:03,510
correct that the federal   connection

706
00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:04,866
connection probably hasn't been

707
00:17:04,866 --> 00:17:05,115
as

708
00:17:05,115 --> 00:17:06,905
as strong at the county as we

709
00:17:06,905 --> 00:17:06,905
can

710
00:17:06,905 --> 00:17:07,394
can make it.

711
00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:10,564
the goal in 2026 is to seek out

712
00:17:10,564 --> 00:17:10,813
those

713
00:17:10,813 --> 00:17:11,542
those opportunities for   hopefully

714
00:17:11,542 --> 00:17:12,481
hopefully one on one   conversations

715
00:17:12,481 --> 00:17:12,968
conversations with mps.

716
00:17:12,968 --> 00:17:17,118
we have found that the   conversations

717
00:17:17,118 --> 00:17:18,865
conversations are more candid

718
00:17:18,865 --> 00:17:18,865
and

719
00:17:18,865 --> 00:17:19,856
and often more productive when

720
00:17:19,856 --> 00:17:20,109
you

721
00:17:20,109 --> 00:17:21,566
you can meet with members of   either

722
00:17:21,566 --> 00:17:22,758
either the province of the   federal

723
00:17:22,758 --> 00:17:24,256
federal government in a smaller

724
00:17:24,256 --> 00:17:24,506
setting

725
00:17:24,506 --> 00:17:27,900
setting, rather than in a   conference

726
00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:29,070
conference 15 minute speed   dating

727
00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:29,430
dating situation.

728
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:30,908
we will be looking   administratively

729
00:17:30,908 --> 00:17:32,220
administratively to seek out   those

730
00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:33,231
those opportunities to meet with

731
00:17:33,231 --> 00:17:33,468
our

732
00:17:33,468 --> 00:17:33,717
our mps.

733
00:17:33,717 --> 00:17:37,751
>> a supplemental, if I may.

734
00:17:37,751 --> 00:17:38,299
I saw that.

735
00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:41,372
I'm looking for -- my friend   spoke

736
00:17:41,372 --> 00:17:42,362
spoke about queen's park day.

737
00:17:42,362 --> 00:17:44,099
I know perhaps down the road,

738
00:17:44,099 --> 00:17:44,099
may

739
00:17:44,099 --> 00:17:48,222
may be the house might be   something

740
00:17:48,222 --> 00:17:49,570
something we could engage in   various

741
00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:49,824
various departments.

742
00:17:49,824 --> 00:17:53,838
I look at what's going on, to

743
00:17:53,838 --> 00:17:53,838
lay

744
00:17:53,838 --> 00:17:54,805
lay with the infrastructure bill

745
00:17:54,805 --> 00:17:55,053
that's

746
00:17:55,053 --> 00:17:56,300
that's going on that's going to

747
00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:56,550
connect

748
00:17:56,550 --> 00:17:58,242
connect windsor and detroit.

749
00:17:58,242 --> 00:17:59,572
it's affecting this a polities

750
00:17:59,572 --> 00:17:59,822
here

751
00:17:59,822 --> 00:17:59,822
here.

752
00:17:59,822 --> 00:18:01,865
I want to make sure as we go   down

753
00:18:01,865 --> 00:18:03,111
down this path, we don't   eliminate

754
00:18:03,111 --> 00:18:03,857
eliminate anything that's going

755
00:18:03,857 --> 00:18:04,106
to

756
00:18:04,106 --> 00:18:05,611
to affect the dollars that we

757
00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:05,611
spend

758
00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:05,611
spend.

759
00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:06,419
that solemn looking for.

760
00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:07,149
>> thank you.

761
00:18:07,149 --> 00:18:07,439
anyone else?

762
00:18:07,439 --> 00:18:13,676
>> thank you, madame warden.

763
00:18:13,676 --> 00:18:14,906
I'm supportive of the five   parties

764
00:18:14,906 --> 00:18:16,886
parties and read them -- ready

765
00:18:16,886 --> 00:18:17,136
to

766
00:18:17,136 --> 00:18:18,885
to move them and endorse all   five

767
00:18:18,885 --> 00:18:20,114
five under the recommendation

768
00:18:20,114 --> 00:18:20,114
when

769
00:18:20,114 --> 00:18:20,600
when you are.

770
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,662
>> if there are no further   comments

771
00:18:22,662 --> 00:18:23,894
comments, we will come back to

772
00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:24,131
you

773
00:18:24,131 --> 00:18:24,131
you.

774
00:18:24,131 --> 00:18:25,339
I will read the recommendation

775
00:18:25,339 --> 00:18:26,125
first.

776
00:18:26,125 --> 00:18:26,125
first.

777
00:18:26,125 --> 00:18:28,038
that is that essex county   council

778
00:18:28,038 --> 00:18:29,012
council received report number

779
00:18:29,012 --> 00:18:29,163
  number 2025

780
00:18:29,163 --> 00:18:33,589
number 2025 s1 203ca o-letter,

781
00:18:33,589 --> 00:18:33,623
  o-letter, county

782
00:18:33,623 --> 00:18:34,850
o-letter, county of essex 2026

783
00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:35,068
advocacy

784
00:18:35,068 --> 00:18:37,317
advocacy priorities as   information

785
00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:38,072
information and direct   administration

786
00:18:38,072 --> 00:18:42,667
administration -- into the   county

787
00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:43,624
county's advocacy strategy and

788
00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:43,875
2026

789
00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:44,358
2026 advocacy calendar.

790
00:18:44,358 --> 00:18:48,521
that is moved by councilor   rogers

791
00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:48,521
rogers.

792
00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:49,727
looking for a second or.

793
00:18:49,727 --> 00:18:51,818
councilor meloche.

794
00:18:51,818 --> 00:18:54,588
any discussion on the motion   itself

795
00:18:54,588 --> 00:18:54,588
itself?

796
00:18:54,588 --> 00:18:56,625
seeing on, I ask you to vote   electronically

797
00:18:56,625 --> 00:18:56,625
electronically.

798
00:18:56,625 --> 00:19:16,868
>> that's carried unanimously.

799
00:19:16,868 --> 00:19:16,868


800
00:19:16,868 --> 00:19:16,937
thank you.

801
00:19:16,937 --> 00:19:21,786
this is where the rubber hits

802
00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:21,786
the

803
00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:22,023
the road.

804
00:19:22,023 --> 00:19:25,956
2026 budget overview treasuries

805
00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:26,192
report

806
00:19:26,192 --> 00:19:26,192
report.

807
00:19:26,192 --> 00:19:29,701
for this report, melissa ryan.

808
00:19:29,701 --> 00:19:29,701


809
00:19:29,701 --> 00:19:30,311
over to you.

810
00:19:30,311 --> 00:19:33,108
>> thank you, wardens.

811
00:19:33,108 --> 00:19:33,188
good morning.

812
00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:37,918
thank you for joining the county

813
00:19:37,918 --> 00:19:38,182
administration

814
00:19:38,182 --> 00:19:39,425
administration team today to   kick

815
00:19:39,425 --> 00:19:42,068
kick off our 2026 county budget

816
00:19:42,068 --> 00:19:42,319
deliberations

817
00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:42,319
deliberations.

818
00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,773
this morning, I will provide a

819
00:19:44,773 --> 00:19:45,024
high-level

820
00:19:45,024 --> 00:19:46,007
high-level overview of the 2026

821
00:19:46,007 --> 00:19:46,228
budget

822
00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:48,572
budget, our priorities, the   pressures

823
00:19:48,572 --> 00:19:50,062
pressures we are facing and what

824
00:19:50,062 --> 00:19:50,312
this

825
00:19:50,312 --> 00:19:51,322
this means for residents today

826
00:19:51,322 --> 00:19:51,588
and

827
00:19:51,588 --> 00:19:52,589
and for our long-term stability

828
00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:52,589
.

829
00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:54,385
to start off, I would like to

830
00:19:54,385 --> 00:19:54,385
take

831
00:19:54,385 --> 00:19:55,661
take a moment to acknowledge all

832
00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:55,926
of

833
00:19:55,926 --> 00:19:57,148
of the county staff who worked

834
00:19:57,148 --> 00:19:57,385
on

835
00:19:57,385 --> 00:19:58,405
on preparing this year's budget

836
00:19:58,405 --> 00:19:58,405
.

837
00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:00,950
sitting beside me is heidi mc  mcleod

838
00:20:00,950 --> 00:20:02,145
mcleod, our manager of   accounting

839
00:20:02,145 --> 00:20:02,901
accounting and deputy treasurer

840
00:20:02,901 --> 00:20:03,153
,   what's

841
00:20:03,153 --> 00:20:04,651
what's been key in keeping us

842
00:20:04,651 --> 00:20:04,651
organize

843
00:20:04,651 --> 00:20:05,891
organize along with her team of

844
00:20:05,891 --> 00:20:06,111
financial

845
00:20:06,111 --> 00:20:11,222
financial analysts, whose   attention

846
00:20:11,222 --> 00:20:12,437
attention to detail made this

847
00:20:12,437 --> 00:20:12,437
process

848
00:20:12,437 --> 00:20:12,936
process run smoothly.

849
00:20:12,936 --> 00:20:14,459
I would also like to thank our

850
00:20:14,459 --> 00:20:15,273
cao

851
00:20:15,273 --> 00:20:17,165
cao and senior leadership team

852
00:20:17,165 --> 00:20:17,511
for

853
00:20:17,511 --> 00:20:19,051
for their insight and   participation

854
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:19,882
participation throughout the   process

855
00:20:19,882 --> 00:20:21,086
process as well as our   communications

856
00:20:21,086 --> 00:20:21,840
communications and council   services

857
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,784
services team for helping make

858
00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:24,034
the

859
00:20:24,034 --> 00:20:25,007
the budget clear and accessible

860
00:20:25,007 --> 00:20:25,007
.

861
00:20:25,007 --> 00:20:27,069
I would also like to thank all

862
00:20:27,069 --> 00:20:27,333
others

863
00:20:27,333 --> 00:20:28,558
others in the county who   supported

864
00:20:28,558 --> 00:20:29,299
supported this budget process.

865
00:20:29,299 --> 00:20:29,299


866
00:20:29,299 --> 00:20:32,956
this really has been a   countywide

867
00:20:32,956 --> 00:20:33,443
countywide collaborative effort

868
00:20:33,443 --> 00:20:33,693
built

869
00:20:33,693 --> 00:20:34,731
built on trust, teamwork and   commitment.

870
00:20:34,731 --> 00:20:34,731
built on trust, teamwork and   commitment.

871
00:20:34,731 --> 00:20:38,339
our goal, just as has been over

872
00:20:38,339 --> 00:20:38,576
the

873
00:20:38,576 --> 00:20:40,277
the past four years that this

874
00:20:40,277 --> 00:20:40,277
council

875
00:20:40,277 --> 00:20:42,159
council has been at the table

876
00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:42,159
remain

877
00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:43,426
remain simple, maintain   stability

878
00:20:43,426 --> 00:20:45,027
stability, deliver value and   plan

879
00:20:45,027 --> 00:20:45,998
plan responsibly for our future

880
00:20:45,998 --> 00:20:45,998
.

881
00:20:45,998 --> 00:20:48,313
we want to make sure our   financial

882
00:20:48,313 --> 00:20:49,049
financial decisions continue to

883
00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:49,283
align

884
00:20:49,283 --> 00:20:50,021
align with council's priorities

885
00:20:50,021 --> 00:20:50,270
and

886
00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:50,805
and community needs.

887
00:20:50,805 --> 00:20:54,401
today's agenda starts with a   general

888
00:20:54,401 --> 00:20:55,406
general overview followed by   departmental

889
00:20:55,406 --> 00:20:55,657
departmental presentations.

890
00:20:55,657 --> 00:20:58,630
after each one, there will be

891
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:58,866
an   opportunity

892
00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:00,203
opportunity for questions and

893
00:21:00,203 --> 00:21:00,203
discussion

894
00:21:00,203 --> 00:21:00,203
discussion.

895
00:21:00,203 --> 00:21:01,941
council can decide whether to

896
00:21:01,941 --> 00:21:01,941
receive

897
00:21:01,941 --> 00:21:03,452
receive the information for   further

898
00:21:03,452 --> 00:21:05,672
further review later today or

899
00:21:05,672 --> 00:21:05,920
to   receive

900
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,895
receive and approve the   department

901
00:21:06,895 --> 00:21:08,810
department's 2026 budget if   there's

902
00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,266
there's a consensus to move   forward

903
00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:10,266
forward.

904
00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:12,376
to keep everyone focused and   energized

905
00:21:12,376 --> 00:21:13,361
energized, we are planning   breaks

906
00:21:13,361 --> 00:21:15,859
breaks at 10:30, noon and 2:30

907
00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:15,859
.

908
00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:17,503
it will stay flexible depending

909
00:21:17,503 --> 00:21:17,755
how

910
00:21:17,755 --> 00:21:18,489
how the discussion close.

911
00:21:18,489 --> 00:21:21,040
we will also have a quick break

912
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,288
before

913
00:21:21,288 --> 00:21:22,278
before finalizing the levy   recommendation

914
00:21:22,278 --> 00:21:23,262
recommendation to make sure any

915
00:21:23,262 --> 00:21:23,508
adjustments

916
00:21:23,508 --> 00:21:24,232
adjustments from today's   discussions

917
00:21:24,232 --> 00:21:24,982
discussions are accurately   reflected

918
00:21:24,982 --> 00:21:24,982
reflected.

919
00:21:24,982 --> 00:21:28,946
the 2026 budget process began

920
00:21:28,946 --> 00:21:29,205
in   may of

921
00:21:29,205 --> 00:21:31,437
may of 2025 with planning   sessions

922
00:21:31,437 --> 00:21:32,169
sessions and departmental   reviews

923
00:21:32,169 --> 00:21:32,169
reviews.

924
00:21:32,169 --> 00:21:34,638
we aimed to make this project

925
00:21:34,638 --> 00:21:34,638
more

926
00:21:34,638 --> 00:21:36,052
more strategic, ensuring that

927
00:21:36,052 --> 00:21:36,052
every

928
00:21:36,052 --> 00:21:38,208
every dollar aligns with council

929
00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:38,664
parties

930
00:21:38,664 --> 00:21:39,414
parties and community   expectations

931
00:21:39,414 --> 00:21:39,414
expectations.

932
00:21:39,414 --> 00:21:40,896
after laster's budget, we held

933
00:21:40,896 --> 00:21:41,908
a   debrief

934
00:21:41,908 --> 00:21:47,422
debrief to learn what worked   well and what we could improve.
The feedback shaped the 2026
Process.

935
00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422
debrief to learn what worked   well and what we could improve.
The feedback shaped the 2026
Process.

936
00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422
debrief to learn what worked   well and what we could improve.
The feedback shaped the 2026
Process.

937
00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:47,422
debrief to learn what worked   well and what we could improve.
The feedback shaped the 2026
Process.

938
00:21:47,422 --> 00:21:55,221
by november, the full 2026   budget

939
00:21:55,221 --> 00:21:56,228
budget was finalized and   provided

940
00:21:56,228 --> 00:21:57,448
provided to council and the   public

941
00:21:57,448 --> 00:21:57,448
public.

942
00:21:57,448 --> 00:22:00,568
throughout, we focused on   fundamentals

943
00:22:00,568 --> 00:22:00,568
fundamentals.

944
00:22:00,568 --> 00:22:04,103
we started with our 2025 base

945
00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:04,103
budget

946
00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:05,861
budget, factoring in contractual

947
00:22:05,861 --> 00:22:06,209
increases

948
00:22:06,209 --> 00:22:06,914
increases, reviewing   departmental

949
00:22:06,914 --> 00:22:08,532
departmental work plans,   studying

950
00:22:08,532 --> 00:22:10,240
studying assumptions around   inflation

951
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,293
inflation and row and ensuring

952
00:22:12,293 --> 00:22:12,876
every

953
00:22:12,876 --> 00:22:13,703
every decision supports   long-term

954
00:22:13,703 --> 00:22:13,954
long-term sustainability.

955
00:22:13,954 --> 00:22:15,525
while the document itself may

956
00:22:15,525 --> 00:22:16,437
be   163

957
00:22:16,437 --> 00:22:18,495
163 pages, it's really the   result

958
00:22:18,495 --> 00:22:19,738
result of months of   collaboration

959
00:22:19,738 --> 00:22:21,042
collaboration, planning and a

960
00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:21,042
lot

961
00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:22,777
lot of caffeine, all aimed at

962
00:22:22,777 --> 00:22:22,777
delivering

963
00:22:22,777 --> 00:22:23,758
delivering a budget that   balances

964
00:22:23,758 --> 00:22:25,182
balances today's needs with   tomorrow's

965
00:22:25,182 --> 00:22:25,413
tomorrow's goals.

966
00:22:25,413 --> 00:22:27,905
as we look at what is shaping

967
00:22:27,905 --> 00:22:27,905
the

968
00:22:27,905 --> 00:22:29,706
the 2026 budget, there are a few

969
00:22:29,706 --> 00:22:29,941
big

970
00:22:29,941 --> 00:22:30,964
big drivers we can't ignore.

971
00:22:30,964 --> 00:22:31,500
first is inflation.

972
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:35,023
yes, it is finally starting to

973
00:22:35,023 --> 00:22:35,262
stabilize

974
00:22:35,262 --> 00:22:36,456
stabilize, which is great news

975
00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:36,692
but

976
00:22:36,692 --> 00:22:38,511
but we are still feeling its   impacts

977
00:22:38,511 --> 00:22:39,765
impacts in some key areas,   especially

978
00:22:39,765 --> 00:22:41,092
especially in certain contracts

979
00:22:41,092 --> 00:22:41,327
with

980
00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:42,080
with materials, software,   vehicles

981
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,574
vehicles and wages.

982
00:22:42,574 --> 00:22:46,439
next we are managing steady   growth

983
00:22:46,439 --> 00:22:47,858
growth across the county which

984
00:22:47,858 --> 00:22:48,108
adds

985
00:22:48,108 --> 00:22:48,467
adds pressure.

986
00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:50,897
each new subdivision, road or

987
00:22:50,897 --> 00:22:50,897
community

988
00:22:50,897 --> 00:22:52,060
community initiative create   ripple

989
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:53,168
ripple effects that require   planning

990
00:22:53,168 --> 00:22:54,165
planning, funding and people to

991
00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:54,414
deliver

992
00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:54,414
deliver.

993
00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,451
it's a good problem to have.

994
00:22:56,451 --> 00:22:58,556
growth is the sign of a healthy

995
00:22:58,556 --> 00:22:58,789
county

996
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:59,778
county but it requires   thoughtful

997
00:22:59,778 --> 00:23:00,033
thoughtful balancing.

998
00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:03,081
speaking of people, let's talk

999
00:23:03,081 --> 00:23:03,332
about

1000
00:23:03,332 --> 00:23:03,819
about human resources.

1001
00:23:03,819 --> 00:23:05,112
2026 will be a busy year.

1002
00:23:05,112 --> 00:23:09,146
a key phase with five collective

1003
00:23:09,146 --> 00:23:09,397
agreements

1004
00:23:09,397 --> 00:23:10,396
agreements coming up for   negotiation

1005
00:23:10,396 --> 00:23:10,396
negotiation.

1006
00:23:10,396 --> 00:23:13,141
at the same time, we focus on

1007
00:23:13,141 --> 00:23:13,141
retention

1008
00:23:13,141 --> 00:23:13,894
retention and succession   planning

1009
00:23:13,894 --> 00:23:15,829
planning, making sure we   continue

1010
00:23:15,829 --> 00:23:17,073
continue to attract and keep   talented

1011
00:23:17,073 --> 00:23:17,824
talented, skilled staff because

1012
00:23:17,824 --> 00:23:18,072
at

1013
00:23:18,072 --> 00:23:19,789
at the end of the day, our   people

1014
00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:21,270
people are the ones who make the

1015
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:21,519
services

1016
00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:21,766
services happen.

1017
00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:25,186
at the heart of this budget is

1018
00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:25,436
fiscal

1019
00:23:25,436 --> 00:23:25,686
fiscal responsibility.

1020
00:23:25,686 --> 00:23:26,873
our approach remains consistent

1021
00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:27,234
hereafter

1022
00:23:27,234 --> 00:23:27,484
hereafter year.

1023
00:23:27,484 --> 00:23:29,238
we focus on maintaining service

1024
00:23:29,238 --> 00:23:29,688
levels

1025
00:23:29,688 --> 00:23:30,530
levels, honouring commitments

1026
00:23:30,530 --> 00:23:31,216
to   community

1027
00:23:31,216 --> 00:23:32,169
community and making decisions

1028
00:23:32,169 --> 00:23:32,421
today

1029
00:23:32,421 --> 00:23:33,391
today that don't compromise   tomorrow's

1030
00:23:33,391 --> 00:23:33,891
tomorrow's financial stability

1031
00:23:33,891 --> 00:23:33,891
.

1032
00:23:33,891 --> 00:23:37,191
I am proud to say that that   approach

1033
00:23:37,191 --> 00:23:38,383
approach continues to serve us

1034
00:23:38,383 --> 00:23:38,621
well

1035
00:23:38,621 --> 00:23:38,621
well.

1036
00:23:38,621 --> 00:23:40,830
the county is recognized for its

1037
00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:41,391
strong

1038
00:23:41,391 --> 00:23:42,944
strong fiscal management, a   solid

1039
00:23:42,944 --> 00:23:44,626
solid credit rating and a   pay-as-you-go

1040
00:23:44,626 --> 00:23:45,380
pay-as-you-go philosophy that

1041
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:45,380
helps

1042
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:46,967
helps us limit that and keep   control

1043
00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:48,022
control of our financial future

1044
00:23:48,022 --> 00:23:48,022
.

1045
00:23:48,022 --> 00:23:49,978
of course, that doesn't mean   it's

1046
00:23:49,978 --> 00:23:50,230
it's easy.

1047
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:51,263
we are still navigating   challenges

1048
00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,548
challenges things like rising

1049
00:23:54,548 --> 00:23:54,548
operational

1050
00:23:54,548 --> 00:23:55,286
operational and timber structure

1051
00:23:55,286 --> 00:23:55,864
cost

1052
00:23:55,864 --> 00:23:56,822
cost, increasing land prices,

1053
00:23:56,822 --> 00:23:56,822
limited

1054
00:23:56,822 --> 00:23:59,285
limited provincial funding and

1055
00:23:59,285 --> 00:23:59,517
ongoing

1056
00:23:59,517 --> 00:24:00,469
ongoing deferral of property tax

1057
00:24:00,469 --> 00:24:00,731
reassessment

1058
00:24:00,731 --> 00:24:00,731
reassessment.

1059
00:24:00,731 --> 00:24:03,719
to manage these challenges, we

1060
00:24:03,719 --> 00:24:04,081
come

1061
00:24:04,081 --> 00:24:05,922
come back to our guiding budget

1062
00:24:05,922 --> 00:24:06,173
principles

1063
00:24:06,173 --> 00:24:07,352
principles which include   maintaining

1064
00:24:07,352 --> 00:24:08,310
maintaining essential service

1065
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:08,310
levels

1066
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:09,465
levels, honouring our   commitments

1067
00:24:09,465 --> 00:24:11,093
commitments and prioritizing   long-term

1068
00:24:11,093 --> 00:24:11,345
long-term stability.

1069
00:24:11,345 --> 00:24:12,714
these principles keep us   grounded

1070
00:24:12,714 --> 00:24:14,365
grounded, to help ensure we are

1071
00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:14,711
not

1072
00:24:14,711 --> 00:24:16,662
not just reacting to short-term

1073
00:24:16,662 --> 00:24:17,118
pressures

1074
00:24:17,118 --> 00:24:18,329
pressures but building a   balanced

1075
00:24:18,329 --> 00:24:19,616
balanced looking budget that   reflects

1076
00:24:19,616 --> 00:24:20,325
reflects both fiscal discipline

1077
00:24:20,325 --> 00:24:20,562
and

1078
00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:21,061
and community priorities.

1079
00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:25,018
this slide gives a high-level

1080
00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:25,018
look

1081
00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:26,442
look at the 2026 county budget

1082
00:24:26,442 --> 00:24:26,442
.

1083
00:24:26,442 --> 00:24:28,177
the total proposed budget comes

1084
00:24:28,177 --> 00:24:28,428
in

1085
00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:33,412
in at 145.7 million, with   96.8 million

1086
00:24:33,412 --> 00:24:34,105
96.8 million dedicated to   operations

1087
00:24:34,105 --> 00:24:34,917
operations and 48.9 million for

1088
00:24:34,917 --> 00:24:37,008
capital

1089
00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:37,008
capital.

1090
00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:38,974
the result is a proposed 2.5%

1091
00:24:38,974 --> 00:24:41,192
--   it

1092
00:24:41,192 --> 00:24:45,021
it works out to be $51.84 a year

1093
00:24:45,021 --> 00:24:45,257
for

1094
00:24:45,257 --> 00:24:46,514
for an average home assessed at

1095
00:24:46,514 --> 00:24:46,764
350,000.

1096
00:24:46,764 --> 00:24:46,764
350,000.

1097
00:24:46,764 --> 00:24:49,893
what I want to emphasize here

1098
00:24:49,893 --> 00:24:50,145
is   that

1099
00:24:50,145 --> 00:24:52,237
that the budget isn't about   across-the-board

1100
00:24:52,237 --> 00:24:52,754
across-the-board increases, it's

1101
00:24:52,754 --> 00:24:52,992
about

1102
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:53,742
about strategic investments with

1103
00:24:53,742 --> 00:24:53,978
measurable

1104
00:24:53,978 --> 00:24:54,230
measurable impact.

1105
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:59,210
every dollar has a purpose and

1106
00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:59,429
to

1107
00:24:59,429 --> 00:25:00,776
to be our advancing council's

1108
00:25:00,776 --> 00:25:00,776
priorities

1109
00:25:00,776 --> 00:25:01,798
priorities in a sustainable way

1110
00:25:01,798 --> 00:25:01,798
.

1111
00:25:01,798 --> 00:25:05,630
a quick fun fact that I am   typically

1112
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:07,076
typically asked by council is

1113
00:25:07,076 --> 00:25:07,076
that

1114
00:25:07,076 --> 00:25:07,811
that everyone present changing

1115
00:25:07,811 --> 00:25:08,281
the

1116
00:25:08,281 --> 00:25:10,680
the tax rate equals about   1.42 million

1117
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,369
1.42 million in levy dollars.

1118
00:25:11,369 --> 00:25:15,167
I will just add, our team did

1119
00:25:15,167 --> 00:25:15,167
some

1120
00:25:15,167 --> 00:25:16,174
some heavy lifting this year.

1121
00:25:16,174 --> 00:25:18,835
we started with a potential 13.3

1122
00:25:18,835 --> 00:25:19,057
million-dollar

1123
00:25:19,057 --> 00:25:19,912
million-dollar levy increase and

1124
00:25:19,912 --> 00:25:20,148
through

1125
00:25:20,148 --> 00:25:21,151
through internal reviews and   incorporating

1126
00:25:21,151 --> 00:25:22,924
incorporating growth, we brought

1127
00:25:22,924 --> 00:25:23,394
that

1128
00:25:23,394 --> 00:25:25,239
that down to 5.7 million.

1129
00:25:25,239 --> 00:25:27,249
that is a reduction of   seven-point

1130
00:25:27,249 --> 00:25:27,972
seven-point 6 million before the

1131
00:25:27,972 --> 00:25:28,209
budget

1132
00:25:28,209 --> 00:25:28,945
budget even reached council.

1133
00:25:28,945 --> 00:25:33,674
this slide shows the infamous

1134
00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:33,674
loony

1135
00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:34,672
loony graph indicating what   portion

1136
00:25:34,672 --> 00:25:35,887
portion of your tax dollar goes

1137
00:25:35,887 --> 00:25:36,247
to

1138
00:25:36,247 --> 00:25:37,057
to each department.

1139
00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:38,841
the largest year, as you can see

1140
00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:38,841
  see,

1141
00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:40,744
see, was timber structure and

1142
00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:40,744
planning

1143
00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:41,928
planning followed by external

1144
00:25:41,928 --> 00:25:41,928
commitments

1145
00:25:41,928 --> 00:25:42,925
commitments which are for things

1146
00:25:42,925 --> 00:25:43,486
like

1147
00:25:43,486 --> 00:25:44,680
like public health and social

1148
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,680
services

1149
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,418
services and regional   initiatives

1150
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:45,418
initiatives.

1151
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:48,845
this slide gives a snapshot of

1152
00:25:48,845 --> 00:25:49,066
where

1153
00:25:49,066 --> 00:25:50,514
where we have been and where we

1154
00:25:50,514 --> 00:25:50,765
are

1155
00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:52,706
are heading in terms of tax rate

1156
00:25:52,706 --> 00:25:52,948
changes

1157
00:25:52,948 --> 00:25:54,184
changes and inflation from 2021

1158
00:25:54,184 --> 00:25:54,208
to

1159
00:25:54,208 --> 00:25:54,435
to 2026.

1160
00:25:54,435 --> 00:25:58,377
we talk about inflation, is   important

1161
00:25:58,377 --> 00:26:01,142
important to remember we are not

1162
00:26:01,142 --> 00:26:01,376
just

1163
00:26:01,376 --> 00:26:02,375
just talking about regular cpi

1164
00:26:02,375 --> 00:26:02,623
that

1165
00:26:02,623 --> 00:26:03,591
that affects groceries and   clothing

1166
00:26:03,591 --> 00:26:03,591
clothing.

1167
00:26:03,591 --> 00:26:06,666
for municipalities, our shopping

1168
00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:06,916
list

1169
00:26:06,916 --> 00:26:08,301
list looks a little different.

1170
00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:08,301


1171
00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:10,689
things like asphalt, concrete

1172
00:26:10,689 --> 00:26:10,689
and

1173
00:26:10,689 --> 00:26:11,660
and construction materials are

1174
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:11,913
all

1175
00:26:11,913 --> 00:26:13,355
all tied to nonresidential   construction

1176
00:26:13,355 --> 00:26:15,299
construction inflation, which

1177
00:26:15,299 --> 00:26:15,299
tends

1178
00:26:15,299 --> 00:26:16,032
tends to rise faster.

1179
00:26:16,032 --> 00:26:17,689
even if general inflation cools

1180
00:26:17,689 --> 00:26:18,158
,   our

1181
00:26:18,158 --> 00:26:19,396
our project cost don't always

1182
00:26:19,396 --> 00:26:19,396
follow

1183
00:26:19,396 --> 00:26:19,650
follow suit.

1184
00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:22,830
big picture, our tax rate   increases

1185
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:24,147
increases have historically   stayed

1186
00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:25,887
stayed at or below inflation   which

1187
00:26:25,887 --> 00:26:27,079
which has helped keep things   affordable

1188
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:28,072
affordable for residents but it

1189
00:26:28,072 --> 00:26:28,307
also

1190
00:26:28,307 --> 00:26:29,519
also means we have years where

1191
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:29,675
we

1192
00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:31,255
we are just catching up after

1193
00:26:31,255 --> 00:26:31,255
holding

1194
00:26:31,255 --> 00:26:32,543
holding the line for so long.

1195
00:26:32,543 --> 00:26:35,796
for 2026, we are still in   balance

1196
00:26:35,796 --> 00:26:37,100
balance mode, managing inflation

1197
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:37,100
  inflation,

1198
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,469
inflation, funding big capital

1199
00:26:38,469 --> 00:26:38,707
priorities

1200
00:26:38,707 --> 00:26:39,690
priorities like the roadway   expansion

1201
00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:41,759
expansion program, the new   windsor-essex

1202
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:42,494
windsor-essex hospital, the ms

1203
00:26:42,494 --> 00:26:42,743
master

1204
00:26:42,743 --> 00:26:43,711
master plan and social services

1205
00:26:43,711 --> 00:26:45,038
while

1206
00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:46,630
while keeping the increase   moderate

1207
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:47,114
moderate and sustainable.

1208
00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:48,864
overall, this trend shows what

1209
00:26:48,864 --> 00:26:49,351
I   think

1210
00:26:49,351 --> 00:26:51,247
think is a responsible story,

1211
00:26:51,247 --> 00:26:51,247
study

1212
00:26:51,247 --> 00:26:53,047
study, deliberate adjustment to

1213
00:26:53,047 --> 00:26:53,298
keep

1214
00:26:53,298 --> 00:26:54,854
keep up with inflation and   growth

1215
00:26:54,854 --> 00:26:55,812
growth while continuing to   invest

1216
00:26:55,812 --> 00:26:56,804
invest where it matters most.

1217
00:26:56,804 --> 00:27:00,445
this next line shows how we   arrived

1218
00:27:00,445 --> 00:27:01,622
arrived at our 2026 levy   requirement

1219
00:27:01,622 --> 00:27:01,622
requirement.

1220
00:27:01,622 --> 00:27:05,932
we started with the 2025 base

1221
00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:05,932
levy

1222
00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:07,494
levy and added increases from

1223
00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:07,494
each

1224
00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:08,558
each department bringing the   total

1225
00:27:08,558 --> 00:27:12,026
total to approximately   145.7 million.

1226
00:27:12,026 --> 00:27:12,026
total to approximately   145.7 million.

1227
00:27:12,026 --> 00:27:13,169
the main departmental increases

1228
00:27:13,169 --> 00:27:13,404
that

1229
00:27:13,404 --> 00:27:15,169
that affect the levy include the

1230
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:15,403
addition

1231
00:27:15,403 --> 00:27:16,400
addition of eight paramedic   positions

1232
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,934
positions, one human resources

1233
00:27:20,934 --> 00:27:21,166
assistant

1234
00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:22,135
assistant and one human resource

1235
00:27:22,135 --> 00:27:22,383
generalist

1236
00:27:22,383 --> 00:27:22,383
generalist.

1237
00:27:22,383 --> 00:27:26,051
residential and homelessness   services

1238
00:27:26,051 --> 00:27:27,356
services, we have increased per   per diem

1239
00:27:27,356 --> 00:27:28,535
per diem funding for residential

1240
00:27:28,535 --> 00:27:28,989
services

1241
00:27:28,989 --> 00:27:30,313
services and we have also   expanded

1242
00:27:30,313 --> 00:27:31,068
expanded the county's overnight

1243
00:27:31,068 --> 00:27:31,332
homelessness

1244
00:27:31,332 --> 00:27:31,570
homelessness program.

1245
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:35,098
additional levy dollars were   included

1246
00:27:35,098 --> 00:27:39,345
included to close the asset   management

1247
00:27:39,345 --> 00:27:40,550
management planned gap and also

1248
00:27:40,550 --> 00:27:40,816
levy

1249
00:27:40,816 --> 00:27:42,285
levy dollars were put into   support

1250
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:43,266
support the roadway expansion

1251
00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:43,266
program

1252
00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:43,266
program.

1253
00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:46,314
there were some levy dollars for

1254
00:27:46,314 --> 00:27:46,546
enhanced

1255
00:27:46,546 --> 00:27:47,048
enhanced recreational   programming

1256
00:27:47,048 --> 00:27:47,048
programming.

1257
00:27:47,048 --> 00:27:51,508
we did increase our funding for

1258
00:27:51,508 --> 00:27:55,240
drainage

1259
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,479
drainage management with council

1260
00:27:56,479 --> 00:27:56,746
direction

1261
00:27:56,746 --> 00:27:56,746
direction.

1262
00:27:56,746 --> 00:27:58,230
for social services and housing

1263
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:59,015
,   you

1264
00:27:59,015 --> 00:28:00,317
you will see higher operational

1265
00:28:00,317 --> 00:28:00,568
cost

1266
00:28:00,568 --> 00:28:01,572
cost which have been   communicated

1267
00:28:01,572 --> 00:28:03,222
communicated to us by the   service

1268
00:28:03,222 --> 00:28:04,475
service manager at the city of

1269
00:28:04,475 --> 00:28:04,690
windsor

1270
00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:04,690
windsor.

1271
00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:08,012
we also have our hospital   reserve

1272
00:28:08,012 --> 00:28:08,012
reserve.

1273
00:28:08,012 --> 00:28:10,230
we are continuing with that   funding

1274
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:12,836
funding model presented to   council

1275
00:28:12,836 --> 00:28:12,836
council.

1276
00:28:12,836 --> 00:28:14,473
that's funding strategy was   already

1277
00:28:14,473 --> 00:28:15,726
already provided and we do see

1278
00:28:15,726 --> 00:28:15,965
an

1279
00:28:15,965 --> 00:28:16,689
an increase in that.

1280
00:28:16,689 --> 00:28:19,020
other large increases that are

1281
00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:19,256
reserve

1282
00:28:19,256 --> 00:28:19,980
reserve funded include facility

1283
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:20,230
updates

1284
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:23,888
updates such as accessibility

1285
00:28:23,888 --> 00:28:23,888
improvements

1286
00:28:23,888 --> 00:28:25,429
improvements to the elevator and

1287
00:28:25,429 --> 00:28:25,665
basement

1288
00:28:25,665 --> 00:28:27,840
basement floor and there are   going

1289
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,037
going to be basement floor   repairs

1290
00:28:29,037 --> 00:28:30,075
repairs at the county   administration

1291
00:28:30,075 --> 00:28:30,342
administration building.

1292
00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:33,862
for ems facilities characters

1293
00:28:33,862 --> 00:28:33,862
increase

1294
00:28:33,862 --> 00:28:36,234
increase funding for the ems   station

1295
00:28:36,234 --> 00:28:36,485
station maintenance.

1296
00:28:36,485 --> 00:28:38,817
there's also a service delivery

1297
00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:39,823
review

1298
00:28:39,823 --> 00:28:41,462
review for infrastructure and

1299
00:28:41,462 --> 00:28:41,462
planning

1300
00:28:41,462 --> 00:28:43,097
planning services included as

1301
00:28:43,097 --> 00:28:43,097
well

1302
00:28:43,097 --> 00:28:44,069
well as investments in workforce

1303
00:28:44,069 --> 00:28:44,334
planning

1304
00:28:44,334 --> 00:28:45,074
planning and I.t. Initiatives.

1305
00:28:45,074 --> 00:28:48,928
I would like to highlight a few

1306
00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:49,182
key

1307
00:28:49,182 --> 00:28:50,166
key items that have influenced

1308
00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:50,625
the

1309
00:28:50,625 --> 00:28:51,375
the county's overall budget.

1310
00:28:51,375 --> 00:28:53,286
you will see a common theme   throughout

1311
00:28:53,286 --> 00:28:54,526
throughout all of the various

1312
00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:54,526
departments

1313
00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:54,526
departments.

1314
00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:58,241
first we have about 3 million

1315
00:28:58,241 --> 00:28:58,478
in   contractual

1316
00:28:58,478 --> 00:28:59,235
contractual salary increases   that

1317
00:28:59,235 --> 00:29:00,206
that council is already approved

1318
00:29:00,206 --> 00:29:00,677
for

1319
00:29:00,677 --> 00:29:02,008
for various nonunion and union

1320
00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:02,462
groups

1321
00:29:02,462 --> 00:29:03,677
groups as well as anticipated

1322
00:29:03,677 --> 00:29:03,677
outcomes

1323
00:29:03,677 --> 00:29:04,635
outcomes of some collective   agreements

1324
00:29:04,635 --> 00:29:04,635
agreements.

1325
00:29:04,635 --> 00:29:07,034
with those increases, there are

1326
00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:07,283
increases

1327
00:29:07,283 --> 00:29:08,275
increases in the benefits cost

1328
00:29:08,275 --> 00:29:08,524
as

1329
00:29:08,524 --> 00:29:08,773
as well.

1330
00:29:08,773 --> 00:29:11,489
next we have some dollars that

1331
00:29:11,489 --> 00:29:11,722
have

1332
00:29:11,722 --> 00:29:12,690
have shifted between departments

1333
00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:13,270
due

1334
00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:14,667
due to reallocation of internal

1335
00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:14,903
recoveries

1336
00:29:14,903 --> 00:29:14,903
recoveries.

1337
00:29:14,903 --> 00:29:17,011
this helps ensure costs are   properly

1338
00:29:17,011 --> 00:29:18,095
properly assigned to the   departments

1339
00:29:18,095 --> 00:29:19,401
departments that support them

1340
00:29:19,401 --> 00:29:19,401
and

1341
00:29:19,401 --> 00:29:20,887
and finally there are a few   prebudget

1342
00:29:20,887 --> 00:29:22,544
prebudget approvals that were

1343
00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:22,544
already

1344
00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:24,822
already approved throughout 2025

1345
00:29:24,822 --> 00:29:24,822


1346
00:29:24,822 --> 00:29:25,788
, including ems vehicle   procurement

1347
00:29:25,788 --> 00:29:29,452
procurement and the over   structure

1348
00:29:29,452 --> 00:29:30,199
structure and planning services

1349
00:29:30,199 --> 00:29:30,451
area

1350
00:29:30,451 --> 00:29:30,451
area.

1351
00:29:30,451 --> 00:29:32,760
we have the state of good repair

1352
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:32,760
  repair,

1353
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,146
repair, two projects that were

1354
00:29:34,146 --> 00:29:34,598
approved

1355
00:29:34,598 --> 00:29:36,035
approved and also the addition

1356
00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:36,502
of

1357
00:29:36,502 --> 00:29:37,678
of the legal articling student

1358
00:29:37,678 --> 00:29:37,926
in

1359
00:29:37,926 --> 00:29:38,660
in corporate management approved

1360
00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:38,907
in

1361
00:29:38,907 --> 00:29:41,669
in 2025 in order to hire in 2026  2026.

1362
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:41,669
in 2025 in order to hire in 2026  2026.

1363
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:47,063
to reach our 2.65% target, we

1364
00:29:47,063 --> 00:29:47,063
did

1365
00:29:47,063 --> 00:29:48,582
did have to defer a few valuable

1366
00:29:48,582 --> 00:29:48,846
initiatives

1367
00:29:48,846 --> 00:29:48,846
initiatives.

1368
00:29:48,846 --> 00:29:51,688
for those interested in appendix

1369
00:29:51,688 --> 00:29:51,938
32,

1370
00:29:51,938 --> 00:29:53,444
32, treasurers report, there is

1371
00:29:53,444 --> 00:29:53,694
a

1372
00:29:53,694 --> 00:29:55,408
a list that has all of those   items

1373
00:29:55,408 --> 00:29:55,408
items.

1374
00:29:55,408 --> 00:29:58,598
many of them align with our   long-term

1375
00:29:58,598 --> 00:29:59,999
long-term priorities and remain

1376
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:00,234
on

1377
00:30:00,234 --> 00:30:00,733
on the table.

1378
00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:02,028
council can still choose to   include

1379
00:30:02,028 --> 00:30:03,525
include them in the budget if

1380
00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:03,525
they

1381
00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:04,969
they decide they are the   priority

1382
00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:04,969
priority.

1383
00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,834
they will also be discussed at

1384
00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:07,082
the

1385
00:30:07,082 --> 00:30:09,282
the department level as well if

1386
00:30:09,282 --> 00:30:09,516
further

1387
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:10,862
further details than what are

1388
00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:10,862
shown

1389
00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:12,092
shown in the appendix are sought

1390
00:30:12,092 --> 00:30:12,342
after

1391
00:30:12,342 --> 00:30:12,342
after.

1392
00:30:12,342 --> 00:30:16,535
this chart shows the counties

1393
00:30:16,535 --> 00:30:16,535
full-time

1394
00:30:16,535 --> 00:30:17,397
full-time and part-time staffing

1395
00:30:17,397 --> 00:30:17,634
levels

1396
00:30:17,634 --> 00:30:17,634
levels.

1397
00:30:17,634 --> 00:30:19,952
as you can see, the 2026 draft

1398
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:20,189
budget

1399
00:30:20,189 --> 00:30:21,430
budget includes an increase of

1400
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:21,683
11

1401
00:30:21,683 --> 00:30:23,491
11 full-time positions, eight

1402
00:30:23,491 --> 00:30:23,708
of   which

1403
00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:24,191
which are paramedics.

1404
00:30:24,191 --> 00:30:25,479
in addition, there was a request

1405
00:30:25,479 --> 00:30:25,729
for

1406
00:30:25,729 --> 00:30:26,798
for the -- increased part-time

1407
00:30:26,798 --> 00:30:27,032
hours

1408
00:30:27,032 --> 00:30:29,147
hours for sun parlor homes staff

1409
00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:29,147
  staff.

1410
00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:29,147
  staff.

1411
00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:33,283
across all departments, 29 new

1412
00:30:33,283 --> 00:30:33,550
positions

1413
00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:34,303
positions were proposed during

1414
00:30:34,303 --> 00:30:34,553
the

1415
00:30:34,553 --> 00:30:35,056
the budget process.

1416
00:30:35,056 --> 00:30:38,077
through the administrative   review

1417
00:30:38,077 --> 00:30:40,526
review process, that this was

1418
00:30:40,526 --> 00:30:40,526
carefully

1419
00:30:40,526 --> 00:30:42,362
carefully evaluated based on   organizational

1420
00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:43,414
organizational priorities and

1421
00:30:43,414 --> 00:30:43,414
fiscal

1422
00:30:43,414 --> 00:30:43,664
fiscal capacity.

1423
00:30:43,664 --> 00:30:46,566
in the end, 11 full-time   positions

1424
00:30:46,566 --> 00:30:47,304
positions were prioritized and

1425
00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:47,556
concluded

1426
00:30:47,556 --> 00:30:49,168
concluded in the proposed budget

1427
00:30:49,168 --> 00:30:49,168
  budget.

1428
00:30:49,168 --> 00:30:49,168
  budget.

1429
00:30:49,168 --> 00:30:49,962
these lima the recommendations

1430
00:30:49,962 --> 00:30:51,079
by

1431
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:52,262
by our director of human   resources

1432
00:30:52,262 --> 00:30:55,847
resources at the october 15   council

1433
00:30:55,847 --> 00:30:56,098
council meeting.

1434
00:30:56,098 --> 00:30:59,300
looking ahead to 2026, our   overall

1435
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:00,296
overall reserve position is   generally

1436
00:31:00,296 --> 00:31:01,542
generally on track, which is   great

1437
00:31:01,542 --> 00:31:01,791
great news.

1438
00:31:01,791 --> 00:31:03,429
though there are still a few   areas

1439
00:31:03,429 --> 00:31:05,645
areas that will need careful   attention

1440
00:31:05,645 --> 00:31:05,645
attention.

1441
00:31:05,645 --> 00:31:07,705
our capital reserve remains   underfunded

1442
00:31:07,705 --> 00:31:08,455
underfunded, which continues to

1443
00:31:08,455 --> 00:31:08,692
be

1444
00:31:08,692 --> 00:31:10,174
be a challenge since we rely on

1445
00:31:10,174 --> 00:31:10,412
it

1446
00:31:10,412 --> 00:31:12,456
it for large-scale -- pressures

1447
00:31:12,456 --> 00:31:13,038
on

1448
00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:14,518
on the reserve will come from

1449
00:31:14,518 --> 00:31:14,518
the

1450
00:31:14,518 --> 00:31:16,526
the ems master plan which   includes

1451
00:31:16,526 --> 00:31:17,279
includes several capital   projects

1452
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:17,279
projects.

1453
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,430
to address this, we have built

1454
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:19,667
in

1455
00:31:19,667 --> 00:31:21,131
in a plan to add $1 million to

1456
00:31:21,131 --> 00:31:21,382
the

1457
00:31:21,382 --> 00:31:22,836
the levy each year for the next

1458
00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:23,085
nine

1459
00:31:23,085 --> 00:31:23,792
nine years, gradually repaying

1460
00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:24,045
what

1461
00:31:24,045 --> 00:31:24,766
what we're using now.

1462
00:31:24,766 --> 00:31:27,814
these reserves will also be   important

1463
00:31:27,814 --> 00:31:29,399
important for the sun parlor   homes

1464
00:31:29,399 --> 00:31:30,423
homes project whether that ends

1465
00:31:30,423 --> 00:31:30,675
up

1466
00:31:30,675 --> 00:31:31,664
up being a major redevelopment

1467
00:31:31,664 --> 00:31:31,930
or

1468
00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:33,368
or rebuild depending on the   results

1469
00:31:33,368 --> 00:31:35,180
results of the feasibility study

1470
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:35,180
  study.

1471
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:35,180
study.

1472
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:36,120
the rate stabilization reserve

1473
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,371
is

1474
00:31:36,371 --> 00:31:37,360
is slightly above target range

1475
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,705
of

1476
00:31:37,705 --> 00:31:39,004
of 10% of the levy.

1477
00:31:39,004 --> 00:31:40,272
we will continue to monitor that

1478
00:31:40,272 --> 00:31:40,508
throughout

1479
00:31:40,508 --> 00:31:40,994
throughout the year.

1480
00:31:40,994 --> 00:31:42,951
reserves are critical because

1481
00:31:42,951 --> 00:31:42,951
they

1482
00:31:42,951 --> 00:31:44,439
they help us plan for the long   long term

1483
00:31:44,439 --> 00:31:45,177
long term, to -- keep tax rates

1484
00:31:45,177 --> 00:31:45,403
stable

1485
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:49,649
stable when costs arrive and   balance

1486
00:31:49,649 --> 00:31:50,490
balance affordability between

1487
00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:50,490
today's

1488
00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:51,237
today's pacs -- today's   taxpayers

1489
00:31:51,237 --> 00:31:52,567
taxpayers and those in the   future

1490
00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:52,567
future.

1491
00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:54,088
it can be tempting to use   reserve

1492
00:31:54,088 --> 00:31:57,252
reserve debt hold taxes down,

1493
00:31:57,252 --> 00:31:57,252
this

1494
00:31:57,252 --> 00:31:58,248
this isn't a sustainable   approach

1495
00:31:58,248 --> 00:31:58,248
approach.

1496
00:31:58,248 --> 00:32:00,243
the real focus needs to remain

1497
00:32:00,243 --> 00:32:00,480
on

1498
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,258
on aligning service levels with

1499
00:32:02,258 --> 00:32:02,496
proper

1500
00:32:02,496 --> 00:32:02,762
proper funding.

1501
00:32:02,762 --> 00:32:05,370
by the end of 2026, total   reserves

1502
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:06,373
reserves are projected to   decrease

1503
00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:06,885
decrease by 56 million.

1504
00:32:06,885 --> 00:32:10,168
that is largely due to the   planned

1505
00:32:10,168 --> 00:32:11,462
planned investments and roadway

1506
00:32:11,462 --> 00:32:11,715
expansion

1507
00:32:11,715 --> 00:32:11,981
expansion projects.

1508
00:32:11,981 --> 00:32:13,856
as noted in the funding model

1509
00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:13,856
shared

1510
00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:14,845
shared with councilor this year

1511
00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:16,290
,   debt

1512
00:32:16,290 --> 00:32:17,258
debt for the roadway expansion

1513
00:32:17,258 --> 00:32:17,505
program

1514
00:32:17,505 --> 00:32:18,729
program may be required as early

1515
00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:18,982
as

1516
00:32:18,982 --> 00:32:19,451
as 2028.

1517
00:32:19,451 --> 00:32:22,052
the good news is we have a plan

1518
00:32:22,052 --> 00:32:22,303
to

1519
00:32:22,303 --> 00:32:23,271
to gradually replenish the   reserve

1520
00:32:23,271 --> 00:32:24,471
reserve over the 20 year program

1521
00:32:24,471 --> 00:32:24,471


1522
00:32:24,471 --> 00:32:24,471
.

1523
00:32:24,471 --> 00:32:28,482
using our reserves also affects

1524
00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:28,736
our

1525
00:32:28,736 --> 00:32:29,487
our investment income potential

1526
00:32:29,487 --> 00:32:29,487
.

1527
00:32:29,487 --> 00:32:31,801
interest income is estimated in

1528
00:32:31,801 --> 00:32:32,052
the

1529
00:32:32,052 --> 00:32:32,525
the 2026 budget.

1530
00:32:32,525 --> 00:32:35,522
we are in a good position on   that

1531
00:32:35,522 --> 00:32:36,528
that front despite reserves   reducing

1532
00:32:36,528 --> 00:32:37,041
reducing by 56 million.

1533
00:32:37,041 --> 00:32:42,560
the 2026 budget faces several

1534
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:42,560
inherent

1535
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,545
inherent risks, many of which

1536
00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:44,545
are

1537
00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:46,636
are outside the control of   administration

1538
00:32:46,636 --> 00:32:47,652
administration and council.

1539
00:32:47,652 --> 00:32:48,485
key challenges include potential

1540
00:32:48,485 --> 00:32:48,736
provincial

1541
00:32:48,736 --> 00:32:51,872
provincial funding reduction,

1542
00:32:51,872 --> 00:32:51,872
rising

1543
00:32:51,872 --> 00:32:53,661
rising ems call volumes and   off-load

1544
00:32:53,661 --> 00:32:54,623
off-load delays, escalating cost

1545
00:32:54,623 --> 00:32:55,408
for

1546
00:32:55,408 --> 00:32:56,252
for construction and essential

1547
00:32:56,252 --> 00:32:56,489
supply

1548
00:32:56,489 --> 00:32:58,897
supply and global inflation   pressures

1549
00:32:58,897 --> 00:32:58,897
pressures.

1550
00:32:58,897 --> 00:33:01,186
additionally, factors like   winter

1551
00:33:01,186 --> 00:33:02,484
winter maintenance expenses,   collective

1552
00:33:02,484 --> 00:33:03,112
collective bargaining outcomes

1553
00:33:03,112 --> 00:33:03,378
and

1554
00:33:03,378 --> 00:33:05,673
and increasing demand for social

1555
00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:05,925
services

1556
00:33:05,925 --> 00:33:07,644
services and affordable housing

1557
00:33:07,644 --> 00:33:07,894
could

1558
00:33:07,894 --> 00:33:08,647
could significantly impact   budget

1559
00:33:08,647 --> 00:33:08,888
budget outcomes.

1560
00:33:08,888 --> 00:33:10,538
council will be informed of any

1561
00:33:10,538 --> 00:33:10,776
unforeseen

1562
00:33:10,776 --> 00:33:12,486
unforeseen budget pressures   throughout

1563
00:33:12,486 --> 00:33:13,437
throughout the year with   strategies

1564
00:33:13,437 --> 00:33:14,149
strategies developed to address

1565
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:14,386
them

1566
00:33:14,386 --> 00:33:14,902
them as needed.

1567
00:33:14,902 --> 00:33:18,378
for the average homeowner with

1568
00:33:18,378 --> 00:33:18,849
a   property

1569
00:33:18,849 --> 00:33:21,039
property assessed at 350,000,

1570
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:21,039
county

1571
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,269
county taxes are projected to

1572
00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:22,269
increase

1573
00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:23,585
increase by $51.84 for the year

1574
00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:23,585
.

1575
00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:27,674
just a reminder that the   assessed

1576
00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:28,870
assessed values are still being

1577
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:29,431
held

1578
00:33:29,431 --> 00:33:31,286
held at 2016 assessment rates

1579
00:33:31,286 --> 00:33:31,286
and

1580
00:33:31,286 --> 00:33:32,852
and there is no indicator of a

1581
00:33:32,852 --> 00:33:33,103
reassessment

1582
00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:34,094
reassessment in the near future

1583
00:33:34,094 --> 00:33:34,094
.

1584
00:33:34,094 --> 00:33:37,410
it's a modest and manageable   increase

1585
00:33:37,410 --> 00:33:39,139
increase, one that balances   rising

1586
00:33:39,139 --> 00:33:40,369
rising service demand due to   growth

1587
00:33:40,369 --> 00:33:41,376
growth in inflationary cost and

1588
00:33:41,376 --> 00:33:41,615
the

1589
00:33:41,615 --> 00:33:42,732
the need to keep long-term   finances

1590
00:33:42,732 --> 00:33:42,983
finances stable.

1591
00:33:42,983 --> 00:33:44,947
the number could shift slightly

1592
00:33:44,947 --> 00:33:45,294
based

1593
00:33:45,294 --> 00:33:47,045
based on final tax policy   decisions

1594
00:33:47,045 --> 00:33:48,504
decisions which will be made in

1595
00:33:48,504 --> 00:33:48,753


1596
00:33:48,753 --> 00:33:49,719
february of 2026 when council

1597
00:33:49,719 --> 00:33:49,719
confirms

1598
00:33:49,719 --> 00:33:49,969
confirms rates.

1599
00:33:49,969 --> 00:33:53,278
at this point, we do not foresee

1600
00:33:53,278 --> 00:33:53,513
any

1601
00:33:53,513 --> 00:33:54,798
any provincial changes on the

1602
00:33:54,798 --> 00:33:54,798
horizon

1603
00:33:54,798 --> 00:33:55,919
horizon that we believe would

1604
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:55,919
significantly

1605
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:56,656
significantly affect the county

1606
00:33:56,656 --> 00:33:56,656
  county's

1607
00:33:56,656 --> 00:33:58,958
county's tax rate but there is

1608
00:33:58,958 --> 00:33:59,458
a   potential

1609
00:33:59,458 --> 00:34:00,685
potential factor to keep an eye

1610
00:34:00,685 --> 00:34:00,937
on

1611
00:34:00,937 --> 00:34:04,767
on which is the affordable   renting

1612
00:34:04,767 --> 00:34:05,021
renting subclass.

1613
00:34:05,021 --> 00:34:06,833
depending when and how it's   implemented

1614
00:34:06,833 --> 00:34:08,882
implemented, it could have a   minor

1615
00:34:08,882 --> 00:34:10,335
minor impact on the tax rate   percentage

1616
00:34:10,335 --> 00:34:11,578
percentage but likely not a   major

1617
00:34:11,578 --> 00:34:11,816
major one.

1618
00:34:11,816 --> 00:34:14,606
this depends of council chooses

1619
00:34:14,606 --> 00:34:14,843
to

1620
00:34:14,843 --> 00:34:16,354
to apply it and how many   properties

1621
00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:17,534
properties would be eligible.

1622
00:34:17,534 --> 00:34:19,406
overall, we are in a strong   position

1623
00:34:19,406 --> 00:34:21,472
position with the balance and

1624
00:34:21,472 --> 00:34:21,472
responsible

1625
00:34:21,472 --> 00:34:22,650
responsible tax increase.

1626
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:24,058
in summary, the 2026 council   budget

1627
00:34:24,058 --> 00:34:26,201
budget is sustainable.

1628
00:34:26,201 --> 00:34:28,658
it supports residence, protects

1629
00:34:28,658 --> 00:34:28,892
infrastructure

1630
00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:29,979
infrastructure and positions the

1631
00:34:29,979 --> 00:34:30,231
county

1632
00:34:30,231 --> 00:34:30,982
county to meet needs.

1633
00:34:30,982 --> 00:34:33,619
we will now move on to the   departmental

1634
00:34:33,619 --> 00:34:34,250
departmental presentation where

1635
00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:34,514
each

1636
00:34:34,514 --> 00:34:35,518
each leader will provide details

1637
00:34:35,518 --> 00:34:35,769
on

1638
00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:36,506
on their 2026 budget.

1639
00:34:36,506 --> 00:34:42,834
>> any questions on the overview

1640
00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:42,834
  overview?

1641
00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:42,834
  overview?

1642
00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:46,362
seeing none.

1643
00:34:46,362 --> 00:34:53,839
there is a recommendation that

1644
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:54,088
county

1645
00:34:54,088 --> 00:34:55,060
county council received the   report

1646
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,634
report budget overview,   treasuries

1647
00:34:57,634 --> 00:35:00,331
treasuries report as information

1648
00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:00,331
  information,

1649
00:35:00,331 --> 00:35:03,730
information, and that the 2026

1650
00:35:03,730 --> 00:35:03,949
budget

1651
00:35:03,949 --> 00:35:05,698
budget package be received for

1652
00:35:05,698 --> 00:35:05,962
public

1653
00:35:05,962 --> 00:35:06,211
public deliberation.

1654
00:35:06,211 --> 00:35:08,664
looking for a mover and a   seconder

1655
00:35:08,664 --> 00:35:08,664
seconder.

1656
00:35:08,664 --> 00:35:10,140
deputy warden deck and did by

1657
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:10,140
councilor

1658
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,768
councilor meloche.

1659
00:35:12,768 --> 00:35:14,141
any discussion?

1660
00:35:14,141 --> 00:35:15,470
all in favour?

1661
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:17,020
I will ask you to vote   electronically

1662
00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:17,020
electronically.

1663
00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:28,310
is there a question?

1664
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:32,605
I'm going back to the same   people

1665
00:35:32,605 --> 00:35:33,947
people every time because no one

1666
00:35:33,947 --> 00:35:34,167
is

1667
00:35:34,167 --> 00:35:34,917
is raising their hands.

1668
00:35:34,917 --> 00:35:36,818
we will see the same names   written

1669
00:35:36,818 --> 00:35:37,966
written on the minutes.

1670
00:35:37,966 --> 00:35:38,766
thank you for recognizing that

1671
00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:38,766
.

1672
00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:47,068
I am asking those that raise   their

1673
00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:47,321
their hands.

1674
00:35:47,321 --> 00:36:15,440
that is carried.

1675
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:15,512
thank you.

1676
00:36:15,512 --> 00:36:20,014
that's quite the team at the   table

1677
00:36:20,014 --> 00:36:20,282
table now.

1678
00:36:20,282 --> 00:36:25,357
we will begin with the   departmental

1679
00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:25,622
departmental presentations.

1680
00:36:25,622 --> 00:36:28,445
first one up is the community

1681
00:36:28,445 --> 00:36:28,445
services

1682
00:36:28,445 --> 00:36:28,948
services residential services.

1683
00:36:28,948 --> 00:36:28,948


1684
00:36:28,948 --> 00:36:32,901
we have the director of   legislative

1685
00:36:32,901 --> 00:36:34,748
legislative and legal services

1686
00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:34,748
.

1687
00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:37,501
we have the director of health

1688
00:36:37,501 --> 00:36:37,861
and

1689
00:36:37,861 --> 00:36:39,366
and community services at sun

1690
00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:39,366
parlor

1691
00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:39,621
parlor homes.

1692
00:36:39,621 --> 00:36:41,263
and our manager of community   services

1693
00:36:41,263 --> 00:36:42,060
services here to present.

1694
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:42,860
over to you, team.

1695
00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:45,666
>> thank you.

1696
00:36:45,666 --> 00:36:51,672
as council is well aware, the

1697
00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:51,672
council

1698
00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:52,434
council's community services   division

1699
00:36:52,434 --> 00:36:53,686
division has been for the past

1700
00:36:53,686 --> 00:36:53,933
number

1701
00:36:53,933 --> 00:36:55,249
number of years house within the

1702
00:36:55,249 --> 00:36:55,496
legislative

1703
00:36:55,496 --> 00:36:56,658
legislative and legal services

1704
00:36:56,658 --> 00:36:57,456
department

1705
00:36:57,456 --> 00:36:57,456
department.

1706
00:36:57,456 --> 00:36:58,511
however, effective january first

1707
00:36:58,511 --> 00:36:58,855
  january first,

1708
00:36:58,855 --> 00:37:00,693
january first, 2026, it will   transition

1709
00:37:00,693 --> 00:37:02,450
transition to the county health

1710
00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:02,705
and

1711
00:37:02,705 --> 00:37:03,470
and community services   department

1712
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:03,470
department.

1713
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:07,792
this budget presentation as a

1714
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:07,792
transition

1715
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:08,788
transition time with both myself

1716
00:37:08,788 --> 00:37:09,038
and

1717
00:37:09,038 --> 00:37:10,224
and the county director of   health

1718
00:37:10,224 --> 00:37:11,222
health and community services

1719
00:37:11,222 --> 00:37:11,222
assisting

1720
00:37:11,222 --> 00:37:11,956
assisting with the presentation

1721
00:37:11,956 --> 00:37:12,193
of

1722
00:37:12,193 --> 00:37:13,166
of the community services budget

1723
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:13,166
  budget.

1724
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:13,166
  budget.

1725
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:15,758
the bulk of today's presentation

1726
00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:15,758
  presentation,

1727
00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:17,047
presentation, as per usual, will

1728
00:37:17,047 --> 00:37:17,297
be

1729
00:37:17,297 --> 00:37:18,608
be handled by the county manager

1730
00:37:18,608 --> 00:37:18,844
of

1731
00:37:18,844 --> 00:37:19,318
of committee services.

1732
00:37:19,318 --> 00:37:26,730
county manager of community   services

1733
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:26,730
services.

1734
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:27,458
>> good morning.

1735
00:37:27,458 --> 00:37:29,231
first and foremost, I want to

1736
00:37:29,231 --> 00:37:29,231
thank

1737
00:37:29,231 --> 00:37:31,440
thank our fantastic finance team

1738
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,679
for

1739
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,463
for providing our small but   mighty

1740
00:37:35,463 --> 00:37:40,919
mighty program throughout the

1741
00:37:40,919 --> 00:37:40,919
year

1742
00:37:40,919 --> 00:37:40,919
year.

1743
00:37:40,919 --> 00:37:43,586
so thank you, marcy, heidi and

1744
00:37:43,586 --> 00:37:43,835
terry

1745
00:37:43,835 --> 00:37:45,054
terry, who is now on maternity

1746
00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:45,290
leave

1747
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:45,290
leave.

1748
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:49,341
the community services division

1749
00:37:49,341 --> 00:37:49,591
includes

1750
00:37:49,591 --> 00:37:50,315
includes three main programs.

1751
00:37:50,315 --> 00:37:54,165
first, the residential services

1752
00:37:54,165 --> 00:37:54,433
homes

1753
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:55,448
homes program provides a   financial

1754
00:37:55,448 --> 00:37:58,676
financial subsidy for vulnerable

1755
00:37:58,676 --> 00:37:59,034
individuals

1756
00:37:59,034 --> 00:38:00,329
individuals placed in   residential

1757
00:38:00,329 --> 00:38:01,626
residential care homes, such as

1758
00:38:01,626 --> 00:38:01,875
retirement

1759
00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:02,866
retirement homes and lodging   homes

1760
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:02,866
homes.

1761
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:07,254
the county currently has a   service

1762
00:38:07,254 --> 00:38:08,888
service agreement with nine   homes

1763
00:38:08,888 --> 00:38:09,877
homes throughout the county and

1764
00:38:09,877 --> 00:38:10,128
we

1765
00:38:10,128 --> 00:38:11,995
we support a total of 226   individuals

1766
00:38:11,995 --> 00:38:12,755
individuals within the program

1767
00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:12,755
.

1768
00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:19,645
secondly, the county has been

1769
00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:19,645
overseeing

1770
00:38:19,645 --> 00:38:22,162
overseeing the operation of a

1771
00:38:22,162 --> 00:38:22,162
service

1772
00:38:22,162 --> 00:38:23,586
service delivery of various   homelessness

1773
00:38:23,586 --> 00:38:24,178
homelessness programs delivered

1774
00:38:24,178 --> 00:38:24,413
by

1775
00:38:24,413 --> 00:38:25,178
by the essex county homelessness

1776
00:38:25,178 --> 00:38:25,431
hub

1777
00:38:25,431 --> 00:38:25,431
hub.

1778
00:38:25,431 --> 00:38:30,797
these programs include a drop

1779
00:38:30,797 --> 00:38:31,034
in   day

1780
00:38:31,034 --> 00:38:32,023
day program where individuals

1781
00:38:32,023 --> 00:38:32,023
experiencing

1782
00:38:32,023 --> 00:38:32,777
experiencing homelessness or at

1783
00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:33,013
risk

1784
00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:35,638
risk of losing their housing can

1785
00:38:35,638 --> 00:38:36,407
access

1786
00:38:36,407 --> 00:38:37,535
access support and services to

1787
00:38:37,535 --> 00:38:37,785
either

1788
00:38:37,785 --> 00:38:38,742
either obtain housing or remain

1789
00:38:38,742 --> 00:38:38,978
housed

1790
00:38:38,978 --> 00:38:38,978
housed.

1791
00:38:38,978 --> 00:38:43,853
in addition, the essex county

1792
00:38:43,853 --> 00:38:43,853
homelessness

1793
00:38:43,853 --> 00:38:46,035
homelessness hub also began   offering

1794
00:38:46,035 --> 00:38:47,216
offering an overnight program

1795
00:38:47,216 --> 00:38:47,473
in   july of

1796
00:38:47,473 --> 00:38:49,347
july of 2025, to respond to an

1797
00:38:49,347 --> 00:38:49,583
increasing

1798
00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:51,955
increasing number of individuals

1799
00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:52,193
experiencing

1800
00:38:52,193 --> 00:38:52,462
experiencing homelessness.

1801
00:38:52,462 --> 00:39:00,129
the county outreach services and

1802
00:39:00,129 --> 00:39:00,364
the

1803
00:39:00,364 --> 00:39:01,340
the county emergency shelter   program

1804
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:07,446
program also -- services also

1805
00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:07,446
provided

1806
00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:08,744
provided to the essex county   homelessness

1807
00:39:08,744 --> 00:39:09,198
homelessness hub.

1808
00:39:09,198 --> 00:39:11,456
finally, the community services

1809
00:39:11,456 --> 00:39:11,911
department

1810
00:39:11,911 --> 00:39:12,944
department also includes the   operational

1811
00:39:12,944 --> 00:39:13,656
operational funding to support

1812
00:39:13,656 --> 00:39:15,001
12

1813
00:39:15,001 --> 00:39:15,975
12 affordable housing units for

1814
00:39:15,975 --> 00:39:16,210
youth

1815
00:39:16,210 --> 00:39:17,606
youth and other vulnerable   populations

1816
00:39:17,606 --> 00:39:20,902
populations at the bridge in   leamington

1817
00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:20,902
leamington.

1818
00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:28,077
the residential services homes

1819
00:39:28,077 --> 00:39:28,422
program

1820
00:39:28,422 --> 00:39:29,613
program has been experiencing

1821
00:39:29,613 --> 00:39:29,613
some

1822
00:39:29,613 --> 00:39:30,854
some challenges in the last   several

1823
00:39:30,854 --> 00:39:31,107
several years.

1824
00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:34,811
with an increase of people   experiencing

1825
00:39:34,811 --> 00:39:35,331
experiencing homelessness, the

1826
00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:35,582
program

1827
00:39:35,582 --> 00:39:39,058
program has seen an evolving   client

1828
00:39:39,058 --> 00:39:40,241
client base with complex needs

1829
00:39:40,241 --> 00:39:40,241
.

1830
00:39:40,241 --> 00:39:42,460
we are also seeing an increase

1831
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:42,710
in

1832
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:44,890
in demand for services which has

1833
00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:45,140
resulted

1834
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:46,668
resulted in our program being

1835
00:39:46,668 --> 00:39:46,905
at   capacity

1836
00:39:46,905 --> 00:39:47,901
capacity and having a wait-list

1837
00:39:47,901 --> 00:39:47,901
.

1838
00:39:47,901 --> 00:39:51,581
in addition, regional   transportation

1839
00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:52,334
transportation continues to be

1840
00:39:52,334 --> 00:39:52,803
a   barrier

1841
00:39:52,803 --> 00:39:56,189
barrier to ensure that the   residents

1842
00:39:56,189 --> 00:39:57,185
residents have access to health   health care

1843
00:39:57,185 --> 00:39:57,456
health care appointments within

1844
00:39:57,456 --> 00:39:57,681
the

1845
00:39:57,681 --> 00:40:02,076
the city and that's remains one

1846
00:40:02,076 --> 00:40:02,297
of

1847
00:40:02,297 --> 00:40:03,003
of our largest challenges.

1848
00:40:03,003 --> 00:40:07,323
further, we are experiencing a

1849
00:40:07,323 --> 00:40:07,575
lack

1850
00:40:07,575 --> 00:40:09,211
lack of capacity in our program

1851
00:40:09,211 --> 00:40:10,111
,   which

1852
00:40:10,111 --> 00:40:11,461
which leaves us with very little

1853
00:40:11,461 --> 00:40:11,700
room

1854
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,317
room for contingency planning

1855
00:40:14,317 --> 00:40:14,581
or   few

1856
00:40:14,581 --> 00:40:15,537
few options when addressing   emergency

1857
00:40:15,537 --> 00:40:16,490
emergency situations in our   communities

1858
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:16,490
communities.

1859
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:21,300
in addition, the residential   services

1860
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:22,292
services home providers have   identified

1861
00:40:22,292 --> 00:40:26,043
identified significant financial

1862
00:40:26,043 --> 00:40:26,293
pressures

1863
00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:28,053
pressures which are a result of

1864
00:40:28,053 --> 00:40:28,273
an

1865
00:40:28,273 --> 00:40:30,025
an increase cost of food,   utilities

1866
00:40:30,025 --> 00:40:30,761
utilities, mortgages and   staffing

1867
00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:30,761
staffing.

1868
00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:35,669
this also presents a recruitment

1869
00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:35,937
and

1870
00:40:35,937 --> 00:40:36,927
and retention challenge for the

1871
00:40:36,927 --> 00:40:37,177
homes

1872
00:40:37,177 --> 00:40:38,614
homes, as they are not able to

1873
00:40:38,614 --> 00:40:38,851
compete

1874
00:40:38,851 --> 00:40:41,251
compete with other health care

1875
00:40:41,251 --> 00:40:41,903
agencies

1876
00:40:41,903 --> 00:40:42,923
agencies when hiring staff that

1877
00:40:42,923 --> 00:40:43,159
are

1878
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:44,117
are in high demand professions

1879
00:40:44,117 --> 00:40:44,117
.

1880
00:40:44,117 --> 00:40:53,664
there has been a 30% increase

1881
00:40:53,664 --> 00:40:54,023
in   usage

1882
00:40:54,023 --> 00:40:55,678
usage year-over-year in all   homelessness

1883
00:40:55,678 --> 00:40:56,868
homelessness programs with the

1884
00:40:56,868 --> 00:40:57,119
exception

1885
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,511
exception of the emergency   shelter

1886
00:40:58,511 --> 00:41:00,715
shelter program, which has   supported

1887
00:41:00,715 --> 00:41:01,933
supported the same amount of   individuals

1888
00:41:01,933 --> 00:41:02,665
individuals as last year.

1889
00:41:02,665 --> 00:41:04,307
the essex county homelessness

1890
00:41:04,307 --> 00:41:04,307
hub

1891
00:41:04,307 --> 00:41:09,244
hub has averaged 428 visits per

1892
00:41:09,244 --> 00:41:09,479
month

1893
00:41:09,479 --> 00:41:13,434
month with a total of just over

1894
00:41:13,434 --> 00:41:14,454
4800

1895
00:41:14,454 --> 00:41:15,169
4800 visits from january first

1896
00:41:15,169 --> 00:41:16,386
to

1897
00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:16,621
to october 31st.

1898
00:41:16,621 --> 00:41:22,668
I should also note that since

1899
00:41:22,668 --> 00:41:22,668
the

1900
00:41:22,668 --> 00:41:23,897
the beginning of the program in

1901
00:41:23,897 --> 00:41:24,157
september of

1902
00:41:24,157 --> 00:41:26,829
september of 2022, there has   been

1903
00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:31,367
been a total of just over 13,500

1904
00:41:31,367 --> 00:41:31,587
visits

1905
00:41:31,587 --> 00:41:32,559
visits at the essex county   homelessness

1906
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:32,810
homelessness hub.

1907
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:37,590
in addition, the essex county

1908
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:37,590
homelessness

1909
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:39,538
homelessness hub has supported

1910
00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:40,461
45

1911
00:41:40,461 --> 00:41:41,423
45 individuals with finding   housing

1912
00:41:41,423 --> 00:41:42,937
housing in the same time frame

1913
00:41:42,937 --> 00:41:43,204
of

1914
00:41:43,204 --> 00:41:43,949
of first to october 31st.

1915
00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:48,648
the warming centre was   operational

1916
00:41:48,648 --> 00:41:49,677
operational last winter from   december

1917
00:41:49,677 --> 00:41:50,199
december ninth to march 31st.

1918
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:55,806
they received a total of 935   visits

1919
00:41:55,806 --> 00:41:56,582
visits in this time frame.

1920
00:41:56,582 --> 00:42:01,275
on the other hand, the overnight

1921
00:42:01,275 --> 00:42:01,523
program

1922
00:42:01,523 --> 00:42:02,908
program, which began its   operation

1923
00:42:02,908 --> 00:42:05,394
operation in july of 2025,   received

1924
00:42:05,394 --> 00:42:09,842
received a total of 1545 visits

1925
00:42:09,842 --> 00:42:10,078
between

1926
00:42:10,078 --> 00:42:10,590
between july 21st and october

1927
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:10,613
  october 31st.

1928
00:42:10,613 --> 00:42:10,613
  october 31st.

1929
00:42:10,613 --> 00:42:18,699
therefore, there has been a   significant

1930
00:42:18,699 --> 00:42:19,704
significant increase in the   utilization

1931
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:20,670
utilization of this program   compared

1932
00:42:20,670 --> 00:42:21,399
compared to last year.

1933
00:42:21,399 --> 00:42:23,479
the county outreach services   program

1934
00:42:23,479 --> 00:42:27,732
program has supported 102 unique

1935
00:42:27,732 --> 00:42:27,985
individuals

1936
00:42:27,985 --> 00:42:28,635
individuals from january first

1937
00:42:28,635 --> 00:42:28,876
to

1938
00:42:28,876 --> 00:42:31,150
to october 31st, with a total

1939
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:31,150
of

1940
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:31,402
of 997 visits.

1941
00:42:31,402 --> 00:42:36,340
encampment tracking only started

1942
00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:36,607
on

1943
00:42:36,607 --> 00:42:38,414
on may first and the team has

1944
00:42:38,414 --> 00:42:38,414
intervened

1945
00:42:38,414 --> 00:42:40,090
intervened and supported a total

1946
00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:41,426
of

1947
00:42:41,426 --> 00:42:44,337
of 22 individuals in four   different

1948
00:42:44,337 --> 00:42:44,590
different encampments.

1949
00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:49,116
at the time of gathering the   information

1950
00:42:49,116 --> 00:42:51,842
information for this report,   there

1951
00:42:51,842 --> 00:42:53,092
there were three active   encampments

1952
00:42:53,092 --> 00:42:53,816
encampments in the county.

1953
00:42:53,816 --> 00:42:56,157
I should also note that   encampments

1954
00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:59,788
encampments are defined as   containing

1955
00:42:59,788 --> 00:43:02,780
containing two or more content

1956
00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:03,031
or

1957
00:43:03,031 --> 00:43:04,623
or structures, therefore there

1958
00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:04,874
are

1959
00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:07,280
are many more areas where   individuals

1960
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,863
individuals are sleeping outside

1961
00:43:08,863 --> 00:43:09,096
but

1962
00:43:09,096 --> 00:43:10,322
but those are not considered   official

1963
00:43:10,322 --> 00:43:10,571
official encampments.

1964
00:43:10,571 --> 00:43:16,389
the county emergency shelter   motel

1965
00:43:16,389 --> 00:43:17,626
motel program has also been busy

1966
00:43:17,626 --> 00:43:17,876
this

1967
00:43:17,876 --> 00:43:18,125
this year.

1968
00:43:18,125 --> 00:43:22,876
as I indicated before, this was

1969
00:43:22,876 --> 00:43:23,437
the

1970
00:43:23,437 --> 00:43:26,078
the program that did not see the

1971
00:43:26,078 --> 00:43:26,326
same

1972
00:43:26,326 --> 00:43:28,171
same overall 30% increase as the

1973
00:43:28,171 --> 00:43:28,420
other

1974
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:28,958
other homelessness programs that

1975
00:43:28,958 --> 00:43:29,186
that

1976
00:43:29,186 --> 00:43:32,703
that was partially due to the

1977
00:43:32,703 --> 00:43:32,703
reduction

1978
00:43:32,703 --> 00:43:34,989
reduction in the bed's that we

1979
00:43:34,989 --> 00:43:35,440
have

1980
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,263
have in that program.

1981
00:43:36,263 --> 00:43:37,926
if you remember, when we had the

1982
00:43:37,926 --> 00:43:38,160
program

1983
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,962
program last year and the year

1984
00:43:41,962 --> 00:43:42,198
before

1985
00:43:42,198 --> 00:43:47,000
before, we had four emergency

1986
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,000
shelter

1987
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,224
shelter beds situated at that

1988
00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:48,224
home

1989
00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:48,224
home.

1990
00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:51,277
since determination of the   program

1991
00:43:51,277 --> 00:43:52,490
program, we no longer have those

1992
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:52,727
beds

1993
00:43:52,727 --> 00:43:52,727
beds.

1994
00:43:52,727 --> 00:43:55,812
even though the number has   remained

1995
00:43:55,812 --> 00:43:58,878
remained the same, the number

1996
00:43:58,878 --> 00:43:59,112
of   individuals

1997
00:43:59,112 --> 00:43:59,863
individuals served, the program

1998
00:43:59,863 --> 00:44:00,100
has

1999
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:06,037
has been very busy up to october

2000
00:44:06,037 --> 00:44:07,847
20 -- october 31st,   the

2001
00:44:07,847 --> 00:44:09,673
the program provided emergency

2002
00:44:09,673 --> 00:44:10,238
housing

2003
00:44:10,238 --> 00:44:12,265
housing to 28 individuals, and

2004
00:44:12,265 --> 00:44:12,516
successfully

2005
00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:13,554
successfully found housing for

2006
00:44:13,554 --> 00:44:13,792
24

2007
00:44:13,792 --> 00:44:14,479
24 of those individuals.

2008
00:44:14,479 --> 00:44:19,278
the other people either left   willingly

2009
00:44:19,278 --> 00:44:20,498
willingly or were referred to

2010
00:44:20,498 --> 00:44:20,498
another

2011
00:44:20,498 --> 00:44:21,481
another shelter that could best

2012
00:44:21,481 --> 00:44:21,718
meet

2013
00:44:21,718 --> 00:44:22,204
meet their needs.

2014
00:44:22,204 --> 00:44:26,480
when needed, we have added an

2015
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:26,480
additional

2016
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,111
additional motel room to   accommodate

2017
00:44:28,111 --> 00:44:28,361
accommodate emergencies.

2018
00:44:28,361 --> 00:44:30,614
in addition, the average length

2019
00:44:30,614 --> 00:44:31,621
of

2020
00:44:31,621 --> 00:44:33,040
of stay for this program was   approximately

2021
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,512
approximately 57 days.

2022
00:44:33,512 --> 00:44:37,456
and finally, we continually --

2023
00:44:37,456 --> 00:44:37,900
we

2024
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:38,926
we continue to provide meals on   meals on wheels

2025
00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:39,666
meals on wheels and food carts

2026
00:44:39,666 --> 00:44:39,914
that

2027
00:44:39,914 --> 00:44:41,158
that we -- to people we support

2028
00:44:41,158 --> 00:44:41,426
in

2029
00:44:41,426 --> 00:44:41,918
in this program.

2030
00:44:41,918 --> 00:44:45,953
>> as council knows, the county

2031
00:44:45,953 --> 00:44:46,412
continues

2032
00:44:46,412 --> 00:44:47,732
continues to advocate for   increased

2033
00:44:47,732 --> 00:44:48,484
increased funding from   provincial

2034
00:44:48,484 --> 00:44:49,657
provincial and federal   governments

2035
00:44:49,657 --> 00:44:50,382
governments to address housing

2036
00:44:50,382 --> 00:44:50,634
and

2037
00:44:50,634 --> 00:44:52,126
and homelessness needs   throughout

2038
00:44:52,126 --> 00:44:52,627
throughout the county.

2039
00:44:52,627 --> 00:44:54,284
in the meantime, continue to   address

2040
00:44:54,284 --> 00:44:55,017
address a significant increase

2041
00:44:55,017 --> 00:44:55,252
in

2042
00:44:55,252 --> 00:44:57,578
in those sick -- those   experiencing

2043
00:44:57,578 --> 00:44:58,304
experiencing homelessness in the

2044
00:44:58,304 --> 00:44:58,570
county

2045
00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:58,570
county.

2046
00:44:58,570 --> 00:45:00,997
there's been a 30% increase in

2047
00:45:00,997 --> 00:45:01,234
those

2048
00:45:01,234 --> 00:45:02,512
those accessing support offered

2049
00:45:02,512 --> 00:45:03,106
by

2050
00:45:03,106 --> 00:45:03,826
by the county homelessness hub

2051
00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:03,826
.

2052
00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:05,591
aside from increased visits,   homelessness

2053
00:45:05,591 --> 00:45:06,606
homelessness has been more   visible

2054
00:45:06,606 --> 00:45:07,814
visible in the county this year

2055
00:45:07,814 --> 00:45:08,064
with

2056
00:45:08,064 --> 00:45:09,852
with the county having to   address

2057
00:45:09,852 --> 00:45:11,283
address and cameron's for the

2058
00:45:11,283 --> 00:45:11,283
first

2059
00:45:11,283 --> 00:45:12,864
first time since 2025.

2060
00:45:12,864 --> 00:45:14,874
council recently approved the

2061
00:45:14,874 --> 00:45:14,874
regional

2062
00:45:14,874 --> 00:45:15,620
regional affordable housing   strategy

2063
00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:16,598
strategy which will hopefully

2064
00:45:16,598 --> 00:45:16,598
assist

2065
00:45:16,598 --> 00:45:17,324
assist in addressing   affordability

2066
00:45:17,324 --> 00:45:17,571
affordability issues.

2067
00:45:17,571 --> 00:45:20,425
as that strategy was recently

2068
00:45:20,425 --> 00:45:20,425
improved

2069
00:45:20,425 --> 00:45:22,857
improved, there are no cost to

2070
00:45:22,857 --> 00:45:23,091
the

2071
00:45:23,091 --> 00:45:25,183
the strategy included in the   draft

2072
00:45:25,183 --> 00:45:25,420
draft budget.

2073
00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:27,366
the county will use 2026 to   consult

2074
00:45:27,366 --> 00:45:28,796
consult with local myths of   polities

2075
00:45:28,796 --> 00:45:30,017
polities on a strategy and will

2076
00:45:30,017 --> 00:45:30,282
report

2077
00:45:30,282 --> 00:45:31,757
report back to council in the

2078
00:45:31,757 --> 00:45:31,757
months

2079
00:45:31,757 --> 00:45:32,263
months to come.

2080
00:45:32,263 --> 00:45:38,382
the overall budget for community

2081
00:45:38,382 --> 00:45:38,616
services

2082
00:45:38,616 --> 00:45:40,110
services is 3.7 million.

2083
00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:42,826
the bulk of the funds require

2084
00:45:42,826 --> 00:45:42,826
the

2085
00:45:42,826 --> 00:45:43,828
the county community service   budget

2086
00:45:43,828 --> 00:45:44,812
budget funded from provincial

2087
00:45:44,812 --> 00:45:44,812
dollars

2088
00:45:44,812 --> 00:45:46,886
dollars and to a lesser extent

2089
00:45:46,886 --> 00:45:47,122
federal

2090
00:45:47,122 --> 00:45:47,372
federal dollars.

2091
00:45:47,372 --> 00:45:49,567
the county's 2026 budget is   seeking

2092
00:45:49,567 --> 00:45:51,000
seeking an increase of just over

2093
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,332
438,000

2094
00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:53,787
438,000 to be funded from the

2095
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:53,787
county

2096
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:54,992
county levy and that amount is

2097
00:45:54,992 --> 00:45:55,242
comprised

2098
00:45:55,242 --> 00:45:55,965
comprised of three items.

2099
00:45:55,965 --> 00:45:58,398
the first is for an operational

2100
00:45:58,398 --> 00:45:58,634
increase

2101
00:45:58,634 --> 00:45:58,634
increase.

2102
00:45:58,634 --> 00:46:01,584
just over 20,000 required for

2103
00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:01,584
contractual

2104
00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:02,322
contractual increases in wages

2105
00:46:02,322 --> 00:46:02,572
and

2106
00:46:02,572 --> 00:46:02,811
and benefits.

2107
00:46:02,811 --> 00:46:06,670
the second is to support a per   per diem

2108
00:46:06,670 --> 00:46:08,009
per diem increase to move the

2109
00:46:08,009 --> 00:46:08,020
per diem

2110
00:46:08,020 --> 00:46:11,022
per diem from $60 per day to $65

2111
00:46:11,022 --> 00:46:11,244
per

2112
00:46:11,244 --> 00:46:12,214
per day in residential services

2113
00:46:12,214 --> 00:46:12,449
homes

2114
00:46:12,449 --> 00:46:12,698
homes program.

2115
00:46:12,698 --> 00:46:15,330
just over 300,000 is required

2116
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:15,330
for

2117
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:16,500
for that item.

2118
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,197
that item contingent on the city

2119
00:46:19,197 --> 00:46:19,560
also

2120
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,548
also approving the per diem   budget

2121
00:46:20,548 --> 00:46:21,534
budget increase in its budget.

2122
00:46:21,534 --> 00:46:21,534


2123
00:46:21,534 --> 00:46:25,014
finally, the third component of

2124
00:46:25,014 --> 00:46:25,234
that

2125
00:46:25,234 --> 00:46:26,961
that amount is being requested

2126
00:46:26,961 --> 00:46:27,210
in

2127
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:28,452
in this budget for an overnight

2128
00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:28,690
program

2129
00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:28,955
program increase.

2130
00:46:28,955 --> 00:46:32,684
just over $110,000 required for

2131
00:46:32,684 --> 00:46:33,046
that

2132
00:46:33,046 --> 00:46:33,506
that item.

2133
00:46:33,506 --> 00:46:35,259
the county is receiving the bulk

2134
00:46:35,259 --> 00:46:35,510
of

2135
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:37,294
of the funds required for the

2136
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:37,294
overnight

2137
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:38,028
overnight program for provincial

2138
00:46:38,028 --> 00:46:38,275
and

2139
00:46:38,275 --> 00:46:38,774
and federal dollars.

2140
00:46:38,774 --> 00:46:41,825
they will continue funding the

2141
00:46:41,825 --> 00:46:42,074
overnight

2142
00:46:42,074 --> 00:46:44,258
overnight program december 31  december 31st

2143
00:46:44,258 --> 00:46:45,141
december 31st 2026, the county

2144
00:46:45,141 --> 00:46:45,390
contribution

2145
00:46:45,390 --> 00:46:46,252
contribution required is   $110,000.

2146
00:46:46,252 --> 00:46:46,252
contribution required is   $110,000.

2147
00:46:46,252 --> 00:46:56,188
again, in 2026, the draft budget

2148
00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:56,427
before

2149
00:46:56,427 --> 00:46:58,203
before council seeks to support

2150
00:46:58,203 --> 00:46:58,438
maintaining

2151
00:46:58,438 --> 00:46:59,475
maintaining county overnight   program

2152
00:46:59,475 --> 00:47:00,881
program until december 21st   2026.

2153
00:47:00,881 --> 00:47:00,881
program until december 21st   2026.

2154
00:47:00,881 --> 00:47:03,739
it seeks to support the county

2155
00:47:03,739 --> 00:47:03,990
residential

2156
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:05,033
residential services providers

2157
00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:05,284
in

2158
00:47:05,284 --> 00:47:06,351
in addressing inflationary   pressures

2159
00:47:06,351 --> 00:47:06,351
pressures.

2160
00:47:06,351 --> 00:47:08,010
service levels can be maintained

2161
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:08,466
and

2162
00:47:08,466 --> 00:47:10,038
and dig deeper into regional   affordable

2163
00:47:10,038 --> 00:47:10,994
affordable housing strategy with

2164
00:47:10,994 --> 00:47:11,230
counties

2165
00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:12,660
counties and local minutes of

2166
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:12,660
polities

2167
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:12,660
polities.

2168
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:14,175
they can eventually be made to

2169
00:47:14,175 --> 00:47:14,411
county

2170
00:47:14,411 --> 00:47:15,628
county council to advance the

2171
00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:15,628
strategy

2172
00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:15,628
strategy.

2173
00:47:15,628 --> 00:47:20,756
in 2026 the county will continue

2174
00:47:20,756 --> 00:47:21,435
to

2175
00:47:21,435 --> 00:47:22,188
to foster collaboration between

2176
00:47:22,188 --> 00:47:22,437
residential

2177
00:47:22,437 --> 00:47:23,245
residential service providers,

2178
00:47:23,245 --> 00:47:23,494
other

2179
00:47:23,494 --> 00:47:24,467
other service providers and   health care

2180
00:47:24,467 --> 00:47:26,266
health care services for county

2181
00:47:26,266 --> 00:47:26,940
will

2182
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:28,058
will continue to provide   homelessness

2183
00:47:28,058 --> 00:47:28,956
homelessness services to the   the county

2184
00:47:28,956 --> 00:47:30,298
the county homelessness hub,   will

2185
00:47:30,298 --> 00:47:31,282
will continue to advocate levels

2186
00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:31,842
of

2187
00:47:31,842 --> 00:47:32,985
of government for additional   funding

2188
00:47:32,985 --> 00:47:33,700
funding to address homelessness

2189
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:33,934
and

2190
00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:36,135
and to increase the number of

2191
00:47:36,135 --> 00:47:36,135
affordable

2192
00:47:36,135 --> 00:47:36,621
affordable housing units.

2193
00:47:36,621 --> 00:47:39,024
with that, we will now conclude

2194
00:47:39,024 --> 00:47:39,260
the

2195
00:47:39,260 --> 00:47:40,308
the presentation of the   community

2196
00:47:40,308 --> 00:47:41,029
community services budget with

2197
00:47:41,029 --> 00:47:41,277
one

2198
00:47:41,277 --> 00:47:42,429
one of the success stories that

2199
00:47:42,429 --> 00:47:42,662
have

2200
00:47:42,662 --> 00:47:43,628
have come from her program.

2201
00:47:43,628 --> 00:47:44,577
>> thank you.

2202
00:47:44,577 --> 00:47:50,929
today, I am going to share   lucy's

2203
00:47:50,929 --> 00:47:52,166
lucy's story with all of you.

2204
00:47:52,166 --> 00:47:54,312
as usual, we afford privacy   purposes

2205
00:47:54,312 --> 00:47:54,312
purposes.

2206
00:47:54,312 --> 00:48:00,307
lucy is a fabricated name for

2207
00:48:00,307 --> 00:48:00,307
this

2208
00:48:00,307 --> 00:48:00,559
this situation.

2209
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:05,207
lucy is a senior who was   experiencing

2210
00:48:05,207 --> 00:48:05,947
experiencing homelessness in one

2211
00:48:05,947 --> 00:48:06,166
of

2212
00:48:06,166 --> 00:48:09,283
of our smaller county   communities

2213
00:48:09,283 --> 00:48:09,283
communities.

2214
00:48:09,283 --> 00:48:12,100
a concerned municipal leader   contacted

2215
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,092
contacted our department to seek

2216
00:48:13,092 --> 00:48:13,332
support

2217
00:48:13,332 --> 00:48:17,085
support for this person, as   business

2218
00:48:17,085 --> 00:48:18,193
business owners and other   concerned

2219
00:48:18,193 --> 00:48:18,940
concerned citizens were worried

2220
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:19,188
about

2221
00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:19,437
about her.

2222
00:48:19,437 --> 00:48:23,384
the county outreach worker   immediately

2223
00:48:23,384 --> 00:48:24,133
immediately attended the   situation

2224
00:48:24,133 --> 00:48:26,815
situation and assess the client

2225
00:48:26,815 --> 00:48:27,266
,   who

2226
00:48:27,266 --> 00:48:28,489
who appeared to be extremely   vulnerable

2227
00:48:28,489 --> 00:48:28,489
vulnerable.

2228
00:48:28,489 --> 00:48:32,754
the outreach worker then reached

2229
00:48:32,754 --> 00:48:32,991
out

2230
00:48:32,991 --> 00:48:34,208
out to the community services

2231
00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:34,208
team

2232
00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,031
team, and together, they worked

2233
00:48:37,031 --> 00:48:37,594
with

2234
00:48:37,594 --> 00:48:38,772
with one of our residential   services

2235
00:48:38,772 --> 00:48:41,970
services home providers, who   assessed

2236
00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:42,695
assessed this vulnerable   individual

2237
00:48:42,695 --> 00:48:45,625
individual the same day and   opened

2238
00:48:45,625 --> 00:48:47,064
opened up an additional bed in

2239
00:48:47,064 --> 00:48:47,301
his

2240
00:48:47,301 --> 00:48:48,021
his home for her.

2241
00:48:48,021 --> 00:48:54,851
it turns out that this person

2242
00:48:54,851 --> 00:48:54,851
had

2243
00:48:54,851 --> 00:48:56,036
had not received regular health   health care

2244
00:48:56,036 --> 00:48:57,807
health care in years, and her

2245
00:48:57,807 --> 00:48:57,807
health

2246
00:48:57,807 --> 00:48:59,031
health card was 20 years expired

2247
00:48:59,031 --> 00:48:59,031
  expired.

2248
00:48:59,031 --> 00:48:59,031
expired.

2249
00:48:59,031 --> 00:49:01,583
to complicate things, she was

2250
00:49:01,583 --> 00:49:01,583
being

2251
00:49:01,583 --> 00:49:05,004
being financially taken   advantage

2252
00:49:05,004 --> 00:49:06,631
advantage of, and although she

2253
00:49:06,631 --> 00:49:06,880
received

2254
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,199
received a decent income, she

2255
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:08,199
didn't

2256
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:09,188
didn't have access to it.

2257
00:49:09,188 --> 00:49:12,244
fast forward three months, lucy

2258
00:49:12,244 --> 00:49:12,492
is

2259
00:49:12,492 --> 00:49:16,208
is thriving in a retirement home

2260
00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:16,208
  home.

2261
00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:16,208
  home.

2262
00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:18,300
she is receiving regular health   health care

2263
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,690
health care, and she has been

2264
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:20,690
assigned

2265
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:22,021
assigned a public guardian to

2266
00:49:22,021 --> 00:49:22,021
manage

2267
00:49:22,021 --> 00:49:23,676
manage her finances, to avoid

2268
00:49:23,676 --> 00:49:23,676
any

2269
00:49:23,676 --> 00:49:24,408
any further financial abuse.

2270
00:49:24,408 --> 00:49:27,914
she claims that she has never

2271
00:49:27,914 --> 00:49:27,914
been

2272
00:49:27,914 --> 00:49:29,161
been happier and she is living

2273
00:49:29,161 --> 00:49:29,398
her

2274
00:49:29,398 --> 00:49:29,901
her best life.

2275
00:49:29,901 --> 00:49:30,380
thank you.

2276
00:49:30,380 --> 00:49:34,471
>> thank you.

2277
00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:39,979
>> with that, we are happy to

2278
00:49:39,979 --> 00:49:39,979
answer

2279
00:49:39,979 --> 00:49:40,512
answer any questions.

2280
00:49:40,512 --> 00:49:45,713
>> are there any questions   regarding

2281
00:49:45,713 --> 00:49:46,469
regarding community services   residential

2282
00:49:46,469 --> 00:49:47,221
residential homes services homes

2283
00:49:47,221 --> 00:49:47,460
2026

2284
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:47,711
2026 widget estimates?

2285
00:49:47,711 --> 00:49:49,645
start with councilor deyong.

2286
00:49:49,645 --> 00:49:55,949
>> I think you mentioned   something

2287
00:49:55,949 --> 00:49:57,251
something, and I'm hoping you

2288
00:49:57,251 --> 00:49:57,251
can

2289
00:49:57,251 --> 00:50:01,412
can give more details, our   homelessness

2290
00:50:01,412 --> 00:50:02,161
homelessness funding program has

2291
00:50:02,161 --> 00:50:02,411
doubled

2292
00:50:02,411 --> 00:50:03,220
doubled since 2024.

2293
00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:05,234
most of that is this year.

2294
00:50:05,234 --> 00:50:06,725
I think is 300,000 increase, the

2295
00:50:06,725 --> 00:50:06,975
homelessness

2296
00:50:06,975 --> 00:50:08,446
homelessness program line.

2297
00:50:08,446 --> 00:50:09,745
do you want the line number?

2298
00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:09,745
5112.

2299
00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:16,137
I think you said something in

2300
00:50:16,137 --> 00:50:16,137
your

2301
00:50:16,137 --> 00:50:19,556
your comments about the $300,000  $300,000.

2302
00:50:19,556 --> 00:50:19,556
your comments about the $300,000  $300,000.

2303
00:50:19,556 --> 00:50:20,856
I'm wondering if you can let us

2304
00:50:20,856 --> 00:50:23,198
--

2305
00:50:23,198 --> 00:50:24,027
-- what the increases.

2306
00:50:24,027 --> 00:50:26,410
in 2024, it was 429.

2307
00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:28,003
it went up to six.

2308
00:50:28,003 --> 00:50:29,324
this year it is almost nine.

2309
00:50:29,324 --> 00:50:36,406
>> with the provincial dollars

2310
00:50:36,406 --> 00:50:36,655
that

2311
00:50:36,655 --> 00:50:38,775
that we received from the city

2312
00:50:38,775 --> 00:50:39,024
,   they

2313
00:50:39,024 --> 00:50:40,751
they give us a pot of money and

2314
00:50:40,751 --> 00:50:41,001
it

2315
00:50:41,001 --> 00:50:43,341
it goes in between, in and out

2316
00:50:43,341 --> 00:50:43,560
of

2317
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:43,777
of line.

2318
00:50:43,777 --> 00:50:45,465
I believe, and I didn't look as

2319
00:50:45,465 --> 00:50:45,715
you

2320
00:50:45,715 --> 00:50:47,216
you were speaking, but if you

2321
00:50:47,216 --> 00:50:47,216
notice

2322
00:50:47,216 --> 00:50:49,333
notice, you will notice an   offset

2323
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:50,097
offset at another line.

2324
00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:51,409
there is a residential services

2325
00:50:51,409 --> 00:50:51,658
home

2326
00:50:51,658 --> 00:50:51,658
home.

2327
00:50:51,658 --> 00:50:52,714
how they calculate that has   changed

2328
00:50:52,714 --> 00:50:52,714
changed.

2329
00:50:52,714 --> 00:50:56,632
but they shifted dollars   elsewhere

2330
00:50:56,632 --> 00:50:56,632
elsewhere.

2331
00:50:56,632 --> 00:50:57,986
for this year, for example, we

2332
00:50:57,986 --> 00:50:58,219
have

2333
00:50:58,219 --> 00:51:01,507
have to regroup and thought an

2334
00:51:01,507 --> 00:51:02,091
outreach

2335
00:51:02,091 --> 00:51:03,128
outreach worker would be better

2336
00:51:03,128 --> 00:51:03,128
.

2337
00:51:03,128 --> 00:51:04,664
so it just goes to another line

2338
00:51:04,664 --> 00:51:04,664
.

2339
00:51:04,664 --> 00:51:06,739
but we have had the same pot of

2340
00:51:06,739 --> 00:51:06,959
money

2341
00:51:06,959 --> 00:51:08,842
money from 2024 and 2025.

2342
00:51:08,842 --> 00:51:10,862
they are saying it will be the

2343
00:51:10,862 --> 00:51:11,115
same

2344
00:51:11,115 --> 00:51:11,628
same for 2026.

2345
00:51:11,628 --> 00:51:16,344
>> I think you are talking about

2346
00:51:16,344 --> 00:51:16,595
the

2347
00:51:16,595 --> 00:51:17,335
the transitional relocation   costs

2348
00:51:17,335 --> 00:51:18,586
costs, which is the line above

2349
00:51:18,586 --> 00:51:18,586
.

2350
00:51:18,586 --> 00:51:20,026
so we are still talking $100,000

2351
00:51:20,026 --> 00:51:20,249
difference

2352
00:51:20,249 --> 00:51:20,249
difference.

2353
00:51:20,249 --> 00:51:28,052
>> no, it is the residential   services

2354
00:51:28,052 --> 00:51:29,042
services homes per diem and the

2355
00:51:29,042 --> 00:51:29,293
homelessness

2356
00:51:29,293 --> 00:51:29,545
homelessness program.

2357
00:51:29,545 --> 00:51:31,539
the transitional relocation   costs

2358
00:51:31,539 --> 00:51:35,489
costs are funded dollars for the

2359
00:51:35,489 --> 00:51:35,757
transition

2360
00:51:35,757 --> 00:51:35,757
transition.

2361
00:51:35,757 --> 00:51:39,149
it is still $100,000 difference

2362
00:51:39,149 --> 00:51:39,149
.

2363
00:51:39,149 --> 00:51:56,849
down 200,000 on five 1:30.

2364
00:51:56,849 --> 00:51:58,858
but up 300,000 on five '01 two.

2365
00:51:58,858 --> 00:52:05,974
50 1:30 5102.

2366
00:52:05,974 --> 00:52:08,726
>> as we do the math I can   confirm

2367
00:52:08,726 --> 00:52:09,495
confirm the provincial dollars

2368
00:52:09,495 --> 00:52:09,746
receive

2369
00:52:09,746 --> 00:52:10,518
receive has not changed.

2370
00:52:10,518 --> 00:52:14,082
we will work on the mass of that

2371
00:52:14,082 --> 00:52:14,350
but

2372
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:15,853
but I can confirm that the city

2373
00:52:15,853 --> 00:52:16,854
has

2374
00:52:16,854 --> 00:52:18,065
has not given us any additional

2375
00:52:18,065 --> 00:52:18,333
provincial

2376
00:52:18,333 --> 00:52:18,600
provincial dollars.

2377
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,591
>> further?

2378
00:52:23,591 --> 00:52:27,758
>> I guess I music my old budget

2379
00:52:27,758 --> 00:52:28,226
to

2380
00:52:28,226 --> 00:52:30,491
to look at what was levy versus

2381
00:52:30,491 --> 00:52:30,739
reserve

2382
00:52:30,739 --> 00:52:32,203
reserve funding, which I wish

2383
00:52:32,203 --> 00:52:32,203
was

2384
00:52:32,203 --> 00:52:34,215
was on this year's budget   because

2385
00:52:34,215 --> 00:52:36,318
because I think it's really   helpful

2386
00:52:36,318 --> 00:52:37,331
helpful to know what's impacting

2387
00:52:37,331 --> 00:52:37,582
the

2388
00:52:37,582 --> 00:52:39,056
the tax rate at the end of the

2389
00:52:39,056 --> 00:52:39,306
day

2390
00:52:39,306 --> 00:52:39,306
day.

2391
00:52:39,306 --> 00:52:41,108
that's what we are here for, and

2392
00:52:41,108 --> 00:52:41,356
it's

2393
00:52:41,356 --> 00:52:42,338
it's not on this budget.

2394
00:52:42,338 --> 00:52:44,125
I brought my old one to help   with

2395
00:52:44,125 --> 00:52:44,378
with that.

2396
00:52:44,378 --> 00:52:46,283
in terms of the number I am   asking

2397
00:52:46,283 --> 00:52:49,353
asking for, and I do understand

2398
00:52:49,353 --> 00:52:49,806
you

2399
00:52:49,806 --> 00:52:50,815
you are putting the provincial

2400
00:52:50,815 --> 00:52:51,064
dollars

2401
00:52:51,064 --> 00:52:51,788
dollars in certain categories,

2402
00:52:51,788 --> 00:52:54,424
is

2403
00:52:54,424 --> 00:52:56,279
is it my understanding that this

2404
00:52:56,279 --> 00:52:56,527
has

2405
00:52:56,527 --> 00:52:58,652
has no impact on the tax rate

2406
00:52:58,652 --> 00:52:58,900
at   all

2407
00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:58,900
all?

2408
00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:59,735
these dollars specifically that

2409
00:52:59,735 --> 00:52:59,986
I

2410
00:52:59,986 --> 00:53:00,708
I am talking about.

2411
00:53:00,708 --> 00:53:03,139
>> I can help.

2412
00:53:03,139 --> 00:53:07,656
in my presentation, I talked   about

2413
00:53:07,656 --> 00:53:10,349
about -- let me find the notes

2414
00:53:10,349 --> 00:53:10,599
here

2415
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:10,599
here.

2416
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:14,984
the amount that would effect the

2417
00:53:14,984 --> 00:53:15,232
county

2418
00:53:15,232 --> 00:53:16,727
county levy for this year is   just

2419
00:53:16,727 --> 00:53:18,678
just over $438,000.

2420
00:53:18,678 --> 00:53:21,036
that was broken down in those

2421
00:53:21,036 --> 00:53:21,036
three

2422
00:53:21,036 --> 00:53:21,257
three items.

2423
00:53:21,257 --> 00:53:25,095
one is 20,000 for contractual

2424
00:53:25,095 --> 00:53:25,095
increases

2425
00:53:25,095 --> 00:53:26,854
increases wage and benefits, the

2426
00:53:26,854 --> 00:53:27,108
second

2427
00:53:27,108 --> 00:53:28,065
second is the per diem increase

2428
00:53:28,065 --> 00:53:30,061
that

2429
00:53:30,061 --> 00:53:32,063
that the city is bringing in   their

2430
00:53:32,063 --> 00:53:33,064
their budget, they've asked to

2431
00:53:33,064 --> 00:53:33,410
bring

2432
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:33,909
bring in ours.

2433
00:53:33,909 --> 00:53:36,290
that's just over $300,000.

2434
00:53:36,290 --> 00:53:37,584
and the overnight program, if

2435
00:53:37,584 --> 00:53:38,038
it   goes

2436
00:53:38,038 --> 00:53:39,671
goes to december 31st, in   addition

2437
00:53:39,671 --> 00:53:40,891
addition to provincial and   federal

2438
00:53:40,891 --> 00:53:42,322
federal funding, we would need

2439
00:53:42,322 --> 00:53:42,573
just

2440
00:53:42,573 --> 00:53:44,432
just over $110,000 in county   funding

2441
00:53:44,432 --> 00:53:44,432
funding.

2442
00:53:44,432 --> 00:53:46,643
that's a total of 438,000.

2443
00:53:46,643 --> 00:53:48,251
that is more than what was asked

2444
00:53:48,251 --> 00:53:48,489
for

2445
00:53:48,489 --> 00:53:49,008
for last year.

2446
00:53:49,008 --> 00:53:49,571
if that helps.

2447
00:53:49,571 --> 00:53:56,449
>> the 300 I heard was for the

2448
00:53:56,449 --> 00:53:56,711
per diem

2449
00:53:56,711 --> 00:53:57,985
per diem, which I'm glad to see

2450
00:53:57,985 --> 00:53:57,985
.

2451
00:53:57,985 --> 00:53:59,275
I think that is really necessary

2452
00:53:59,275 --> 00:53:59,275
  necessary.

2453
00:53:59,275 --> 00:53:59,275
  necessary.

2454
00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:02,125
to go back to the lines I am   talking

2455
00:54:02,125 --> 00:54:03,544
talking about, specifically the

2456
00:54:03,544 --> 00:54:03,569
homelessness

2457
00:54:03,569 --> 00:54:06,170
homelessness programs and the

2458
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:06,170
residential

2459
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:10,084
residential service -- now you

2460
00:54:10,084 --> 00:54:10,431
said

2461
00:54:10,431 --> 00:54:12,335
said service home for pdm is a

2462
00:54:12,335 --> 00:54:12,571
tax

2463
00:54:12,571 --> 00:54:12,823
tax increase.

2464
00:54:12,823 --> 00:54:13,730
I am confused.

2465
00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:14,797
you said it's provincial dollars

2466
00:54:14,797 --> 00:54:14,797
  dollars.

2467
00:54:14,797 --> 00:54:14,797
  dollars.

2468
00:54:14,797 --> 00:54:20,247
>> the first $60 would be   provincial

2469
00:54:20,247 --> 00:54:20,509
provincial dollars.

2470
00:54:20,509 --> 00:54:22,678
we are trying to top that up   with

2471
00:54:22,678 --> 00:54:24,530
with the additional five dollars

2472
00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:24,737
to

2473
00:54:24,737 --> 00:54:25,489
to make it sustainable.

2474
00:54:25,489 --> 00:54:26,548
the five-dollar increase is   where

2475
00:54:26,548 --> 00:54:28,214
where you see the levy   contribution

2476
00:54:28,214 --> 00:54:28,214
contribution.

2477
00:54:28,214 --> 00:54:30,512
it is our county dollars.

2478
00:54:30,512 --> 00:54:34,677
$309,000 for the residential   home

2479
00:54:34,677 --> 00:54:36,326
home increase is a levy and it

2480
00:54:36,326 --> 00:54:36,589
does

2481
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:37,352
does affect the tax rate.

2482
00:54:37,352 --> 00:54:39,612
as well as the overnight program

2483
00:54:39,612 --> 00:54:39,612
  program.

2484
00:54:39,612 --> 00:54:39,612
  program.

2485
00:54:39,612 --> 00:54:42,793
we are doing what we can with

2486
00:54:42,793 --> 00:54:42,793
the

2487
00:54:42,793 --> 00:54:44,855
the provincial dollars to open

2488
00:54:44,855 --> 00:54:45,109
it

2489
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:46,918
it as many days as we possibly

2490
00:54:46,918 --> 00:54:47,166
can

2491
00:54:47,166 --> 00:54:47,166
can.

2492
00:54:47,166 --> 00:54:48,464
however, there is a shortfall

2493
00:54:48,464 --> 00:54:48,684
of   we

2494
00:54:48,684 --> 00:54:50,608
we want to run a 306 to five   days

2495
00:54:50,608 --> 00:54:51,110
days a year.

2496
00:54:51,110 --> 00:54:52,931
that will be -- that will affect

2497
00:54:52,931 --> 00:54:53,182
the

2498
00:54:53,182 --> 00:54:54,642
the levy and that is just over

2499
00:54:54,642 --> 00:54:56,438
$110,000

2500
00:54:56,438 --> 00:54:57,190
$110,000, that increase there.

2501
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:57,190


2502
00:54:57,190 --> 00:55:06,148
>> I am finding this quite   confusing

2503
00:55:06,148 --> 00:55:06,148
confusing.

2504
00:55:06,148 --> 00:55:07,640
the homelessness program is   increased

2505
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,656
increased by 300,000 but our per  per diem

2506
00:55:09,656 --> 00:55:11,127
per diem, which we know is   impacting

2507
00:55:11,127 --> 00:55:12,359
impacting the levy, shows in   production

2508
00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:12,359
production.

2509
00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:14,957
so this is very confusing to me

2510
00:55:14,957 --> 00:55:14,957
.

2511
00:55:14,957 --> 00:55:17,109
I will just trust that what you

2512
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:17,359
are

2513
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:18,331
are saying makes sense because

2514
00:55:18,331 --> 00:55:18,569
it

2515
00:55:18,569 --> 00:55:20,063
it doesn't make sense on my   piece

2516
00:55:20,063 --> 00:55:21,632
piece of paper that shows the

2517
00:55:21,632 --> 00:55:21,642
per diem

2518
00:55:21,642 --> 00:55:23,702
per diem cost from 2025 going

2519
00:55:23,702 --> 00:55:23,702
down

2520
00:55:23,702 --> 00:55:24,961
down, even though we are   increasing

2521
00:55:24,961 --> 00:55:25,213
increasing it.

2522
00:55:25,213 --> 00:55:27,827
but the homelessness program   which

2523
00:55:27,827 --> 00:55:29,033
which is provincially funded is

2524
00:55:29,033 --> 00:55:29,284
going

2525
00:55:29,284 --> 00:55:30,852
going up at the funding dollars

2526
00:55:30,852 --> 00:55:31,104
haven't

2527
00:55:31,104 --> 00:55:31,356
haven't changed.

2528
00:55:31,356 --> 00:55:32,658
so I'm a little confused.

2529
00:55:32,658 --> 00:55:33,675
but I will move on.

2530
00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:38,929
>> anyone else?

2531
00:55:38,929 --> 00:55:47,845
councilor bailey.

2532
00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:49,690
>> this is tough work not only

2533
00:55:49,690 --> 00:55:49,928
putting

2534
00:55:49,928 --> 00:55:50,960
putting the budget together but

2535
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,209
the

2536
00:55:51,209 --> 00:55:52,195
the work that you do.

2537
00:55:52,195 --> 00:55:54,328
I want to thank you for sharing

2538
00:55:54,328 --> 00:55:54,580
the

2539
00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:56,057
the story about lucy and all of

2540
00:55:56,057 --> 00:55:56,277
the

2541
00:55:56,277 --> 00:55:57,991
the work that gets done with our

2542
00:55:57,991 --> 00:55:58,245
vulnerable

2543
00:55:58,245 --> 00:55:58,494
vulnerable populations.

2544
00:55:58,494 --> 00:56:01,416
I also want to thank you for   what

2545
00:56:01,416 --> 00:56:02,758
what appears to be a   conservative

2546
00:56:02,758 --> 00:56:04,318
conservative lens on a very   difficult

2547
00:56:04,318 --> 00:56:04,832
difficult subject, recognizing

2548
00:56:04,832 --> 00:56:05,084
that

2549
00:56:05,084 --> 00:56:07,719
that really this is a   maintenance

2550
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,883
maintenance of level of service

2551
00:56:08,883 --> 00:56:09,136
and

2552
00:56:09,136 --> 00:56:09,902
and some continuation around --

2553
00:56:09,902 --> 00:56:11,976
the

2554
00:56:11,976 --> 00:56:13,307
the five-dollar per diem   increase

2555
00:56:13,307 --> 00:56:16,582
increase, I am very pleased to

2556
00:56:16,582 --> 00:56:16,821
see

2557
00:56:16,821 --> 00:56:16,821
see.

2558
00:56:16,821 --> 00:56:21,330
I assume the city will also be

2559
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:21,892
tabling

2560
00:56:21,892 --> 00:56:23,439
tabling that within their budget

2561
00:56:23,439 --> 00:56:23,674
for

2562
00:56:23,674 --> 00:56:24,142
for their discussions.

2563
00:56:24,142 --> 00:56:26,382
I am wondering whether or not

2564
00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:26,382
the

2565
00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:31,499
the five dollars that we will

2566
00:56:31,499 --> 00:56:31,499
love

2567
00:56:31,499 --> 00:56:33,172
love the as a result will be   transferred

2568
00:56:33,172 --> 00:56:34,567
transferred to the service   manager

2569
00:56:34,567 --> 00:56:36,275
manager from the county to the

2570
00:56:36,275 --> 00:56:36,510
city

2571
00:56:36,510 --> 00:56:37,553
city, the additional five   dollars.

2572
00:56:37,553 --> 00:56:37,553
city, the additional five   dollars.

2573
00:56:37,553 --> 00:56:42,065
I'm also wondering whether or

2574
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:42,065
not

2575
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:43,499
not this could be brought back

2576
00:56:43,499 --> 00:56:43,737
if

2577
00:56:43,737 --> 00:56:45,440
if the city fails to match my

2578
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,670
--   my

2579
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:46,887
my anticipation and hope is that

2580
00:56:46,887 --> 00:56:47,121
they

2581
00:56:47,121 --> 00:56:47,371
they will.

2582
00:56:47,371 --> 00:56:49,189
I'm sure they will.

2583
00:56:49,189 --> 00:56:50,744
but whether or not this could

2584
00:56:50,744 --> 00:56:50,978
be   brought

2585
00:56:50,978 --> 00:56:51,713
brought back for consideration

2586
00:56:51,713 --> 00:56:52,276
should

2587
00:56:52,276 --> 00:56:53,858
should the city not choose to

2588
00:56:53,858 --> 00:56:53,858
match

2589
00:56:53,858 --> 00:56:53,858
match.

2590
00:56:53,858 --> 00:56:56,631
also, I'm happy to table the   motion

2591
00:56:56,631 --> 00:56:57,627
motion contained here when you

2592
00:56:57,627 --> 00:56:57,863
are

2593
00:56:57,863 --> 00:56:58,127
are ready.

2594
00:56:58,127 --> 00:57:07,067
>> through wharton, thank you

2595
00:57:07,067 --> 00:57:07,067
for

2596
00:57:07,067 --> 00:57:08,639
for your question and thank you

2597
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:08,863
for

2598
00:57:08,863 --> 00:57:09,608
for your positive feedback.

2599
00:57:09,608 --> 00:57:10,153
we certainly appreciated.

2600
00:57:10,153 --> 00:57:14,219
as for the potential per diem

2601
00:57:14,219 --> 00:57:14,219
increase

2602
00:57:14,219 --> 00:57:18,103
increase, how the funding works

2603
00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:18,618
,   the

2604
00:57:18,618 --> 00:57:20,134
the city gives the county the

2605
00:57:20,134 --> 00:57:20,134
money

2606
00:57:20,134 --> 00:57:21,420
money to cover the entire per   per diem

2607
00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:21,420
per diem.

2608
00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:24,377
we would just be complementing

2609
00:57:24,377 --> 00:57:24,626
what

2610
00:57:24,626 --> 00:57:25,824
what they are already giving us

2611
00:57:25,824 --> 00:57:27,694
,   and

2612
00:57:27,694 --> 00:57:29,008
and then they would be pulling

2613
00:57:29,008 --> 00:57:29,255
,   hopefully

2614
00:57:29,255 --> 00:57:32,612
hopefully, from there municipal

2615
00:57:32,612 --> 00:57:33,255
dollars

2616
00:57:33,255 --> 00:57:34,458
dollars to complement the total

2617
00:57:34,458 --> 00:57:34,805
amount

2618
00:57:34,805 --> 00:57:36,210
amount for the city homes.

2619
00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:37,491
I hope that answers your   question

2620
00:57:37,491 --> 00:57:37,491
question.

2621
00:57:37,491 --> 00:57:43,283
>> I should also add, the   65-dollar

2622
00:57:43,283 --> 00:57:44,246
65-dollar per diem is not solely

2623
00:57:44,246 --> 00:57:44,494
funded

2624
00:57:44,494 --> 00:57:47,644
funded by provincial dollars and

2625
00:57:47,644 --> 00:57:48,100
county

2626
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:48,666
county dollars.

2627
00:57:48,666 --> 00:57:50,902
it is also income that the   residents

2628
00:57:50,902 --> 00:57:51,653
residents themselves may earn,

2629
00:57:51,653 --> 00:57:52,322
whether

2630
00:57:52,322 --> 00:57:53,327
whether it's pension income or

2631
00:57:53,327 --> 00:57:53,564
disability

2632
00:57:53,564 --> 00:57:53,815
disability income.

2633
00:57:53,815 --> 00:57:56,073
>> thank you.

2634
00:57:56,073 --> 00:57:56,960
councilor bondy.

2635
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,111
>> thank you, warden.

2636
00:58:01,111 --> 00:58:02,783
I want to thank you for   everything

2637
00:58:02,783 --> 00:58:03,286
everything you do.

2638
00:58:03,286 --> 00:58:04,875
this is a question that I have

2639
00:58:04,875 --> 00:58:05,125
today

2640
00:58:05,125 --> 00:58:05,125
today.

2641
00:58:05,125 --> 00:58:07,054
you may not have the answer   today

2642
00:58:07,054 --> 00:58:07,054
today.

2643
00:58:07,054 --> 00:58:08,827
if you have to follow up by   email

2644
00:58:08,827 --> 00:58:09,329
email, I understand.

2645
00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:12,467
the 226 beds, how long have we

2646
00:58:12,467 --> 00:58:12,717
had

2647
00:58:12,717 --> 00:58:13,205
had 226 bed?

2648
00:58:13,205 --> 00:58:16,405
does that grow at all with the

2649
00:58:16,405 --> 00:58:16,655
needs

2650
00:58:16,655 --> 00:58:17,674
needs, the demand for need?

2651
00:58:17,674 --> 00:58:21,473
and then I have a couple of   other

2652
00:58:21,473 --> 00:58:21,733
other questions.

2653
00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:23,539
but I'm looking to see, do we

2654
00:58:23,539 --> 00:58:23,539
have

2655
00:58:23,539 --> 00:58:25,835
have did we have 226 beds 10   years

2656
00:58:25,835 --> 00:58:26,114
years ago?

2657
00:58:26,114 --> 00:58:27,662
are we looking to grow more beds

2658
00:58:27,662 --> 00:58:27,662
  beds?

2659
00:58:27,662 --> 00:58:27,662
  beds?

2660
00:58:27,662 --> 00:58:29,985
the housing issues aren't going

2661
00:58:29,985 --> 00:58:30,236
to

2662
00:58:30,236 --> 00:58:30,735
to go away.

2663
00:58:30,735 --> 00:58:34,524
maybe we need to have a   discussion

2664
00:58:34,524 --> 00:58:36,036
discussion going to 240 beds in

2665
00:58:36,036 --> 00:58:36,286
the

2666
00:58:36,286 --> 00:58:37,659
the future, 250 beds.

2667
00:58:37,659 --> 00:58:39,199
I don't know if you can answer

2668
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:39,446
that

2669
00:58:39,446 --> 00:58:39,446
that.

2670
00:58:39,446 --> 00:58:41,242
and then I have a couple of   other

2671
00:58:41,242 --> 00:58:41,512
other statements.

2672
00:58:41,512 --> 00:58:44,943
>> thank you for the question.

2673
00:58:44,943 --> 00:58:49,942
for at least 10 years, we have

2674
00:58:49,942 --> 00:58:50,192
had

2675
00:58:50,192 --> 00:58:50,676
had 226 beds.

2676
00:58:50,676 --> 00:58:57,912
that number is determined by the

2677
00:58:57,912 --> 00:58:58,163
service

2678
00:58:58,163 --> 00:58:58,418
service manager.

2679
00:58:58,418 --> 00:59:00,787
so they allocate funding to a

2680
00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:00,787
total

2681
00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:02,269
total number of beds for the   region

2682
00:59:02,269 --> 00:59:02,269
region.

2683
00:59:02,269 --> 00:59:04,406
the county portion of those beds

2684
00:59:04,406 --> 00:59:04,644
are

2685
00:59:04,644 --> 00:59:04,929
are 226.

2686
00:59:04,929 --> 00:59:08,257
>> thank you.

2687
00:59:08,257 --> 00:59:11,842
226 beds for 10 years.

2688
00:59:11,842 --> 00:59:16,208
that is not keeping up with   inflation

2689
00:59:16,208 --> 00:59:17,585
inflation of the need in the   the county

2690
00:59:17,585 --> 00:59:18,462
the county of essex.

2691
00:59:18,462 --> 00:59:20,326
my next question is, I believe

2692
00:59:20,326 --> 00:59:21,026
a   couple

2693
00:59:21,026 --> 00:59:22,031
couple of council meetings ago

2694
00:59:22,031 --> 00:59:22,283
,   maybe

2695
00:59:22,283 --> 00:59:24,290
maybe three innings ago, we sent

2696
00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:24,552
a

2697
00:59:24,552 --> 00:59:26,062
a letter to the city of windsor

2698
00:59:26,062 --> 00:59:26,314
asking

2699
00:59:26,314 --> 00:59:27,602
asking them to meet on this.

2700
00:59:27,602 --> 00:59:29,465
unfortunately, we didn't get to

2701
00:59:29,465 --> 00:59:29,920
meet

2702
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,435
meet on anything.

2703
00:59:30,435 --> 00:59:31,691
unity service, social service,

2704
00:59:31,691 --> 00:59:32,483
before

2705
00:59:32,483 --> 00:59:33,001
before this budget.

2706
00:59:33,001 --> 00:59:34,575
do you know if that letter has

2707
00:59:34,575 --> 00:59:35,708
been

2708
00:59:35,708 --> 00:59:36,979
been received by the city, and

2709
00:59:36,979 --> 00:59:37,231
if

2710
00:59:37,231 --> 00:59:38,501
if the city is going to

2711
00:59:38,501 --> 00:59:38,501
if the city is going to

2712
00:59:38,501 --> 00:59:38,501
if the city is going to

2713
00:59:38,501 --> 00:59:39,250
come to   the

2714
00:59:39,250 --> 00:59:40,716
the table and talk about our   fair

2715
00:59:40,716 --> 00:59:41,438
fair share of services?

2716
00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:41,438


2717
00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:41,438


2718
00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:41,438


2719
00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:45,466
>> we've got an email   acknowledging

2720
00:59:45,466 --> 00:59:46,189
acknowledging they have received

2721
00:59:46,189 --> 00:59:46,444
the

2722
00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:47,903
the letter but there has been

2723
00:59:47,903 --> 00:59:48,140
no   formal

2724
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:48,875
formal response to date.

2725
00:59:48,875 --> 00:59:49,847
>> thank you.

2726
00:59:49,847 --> 00:59:55,115
I will just go on public record

2727
00:59:55,115 --> 00:59:55,365
again

2728
00:59:55,365 --> 00:59:56,697
again saying that the city   really

2729
00:59:56,697 --> 00:59:57,954
really needs to start having a

2730
00:59:57,954 --> 00:59:58,207
conversation

2731
00:59:58,207 --> 00:59:58,974
conversation with the county.

2732
00:59:58,974 --> 01:00:01,629
if it's not county council, it

2733
01:00:01,629 --> 01:00:02,450
needs

2734
01:00:02,450 --> 01:00:04,073
needs to be county   administration

2735
01:00:04,073 --> 01:00:04,073
administration.

2736
01:00:04,073 --> 01:00:06,320
part of our strategic goal is

2737
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:06,320
looking

2738
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,059
looking at how we can get our

2739
01:00:08,059 --> 01:00:08,059
fair

2740
01:00:08,059 --> 01:00:08,310
fair share.

2741
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:10,180
we are not getting our fair   share

2742
01:00:10,180 --> 01:00:10,180
share.

2743
01:00:10,180 --> 01:00:13,196
226 beds for 10 years, having

2744
01:00:13,196 --> 01:00:13,462
no   growth

2745
01:00:13,462 --> 01:00:14,951
growth in those beds in the   county

2746
01:00:14,951 --> 01:00:15,950
county when we have needs.

2747
01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:18,112
we have encampments as well.

2748
01:00:18,112 --> 01:00:20,454
my last comment is I don't --

2749
01:00:20,454 --> 01:00:20,454
this

2750
01:00:20,454 --> 01:00:21,549
this is really good information

2751
01:00:21,549 --> 01:00:21,549
.

2752
01:00:21,549 --> 01:00:23,486
I got a little bit emotional but

2753
01:00:23,486 --> 01:00:23,753
I

2754
01:00:23,753 --> 01:00:25,888
I don't want to wait until 2027

2755
01:00:25,888 --> 01:00:26,106
to

2756
01:00:26,106 --> 01:00:27,588
to get more data on this   particular

2757
01:00:27,588 --> 01:00:27,838
particular topic.

2758
01:00:27,838 --> 01:00:31,095
I actually think, we were just

2759
01:00:31,095 --> 01:00:31,347
at

2760
01:00:31,347 --> 01:00:32,598
at our police service board, we

2761
01:00:32,598 --> 01:00:32,846
added

2762
01:00:32,846 --> 01:00:34,421
added at our police service   board

2763
01:00:34,421 --> 01:00:36,078
board homeless and can't mince

2764
01:00:36,078 --> 01:00:36,325
into

2765
01:00:36,325 --> 01:00:37,280
into the strategic plan.

2766
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,231
homeless issues into the   strategic

2767
01:00:39,231 --> 01:00:40,483
strategic plan at the opp board

2768
01:00:40,483 --> 01:00:40,733
north

2769
01:00:40,733 --> 01:00:40,733
north.

2770
01:00:40,733 --> 01:00:43,653
we need to be on this issue.

2771
01:00:43,653 --> 01:00:45,391
as elected officials, I would

2772
01:00:45,391 --> 01:00:45,391
like

2773
01:00:45,391 --> 01:00:47,202
like to be informed on this   issue

2774
01:00:47,202 --> 01:00:48,188
issue, either quarterly or every

2775
01:00:48,188 --> 01:00:48,456
three

2776
01:00:48,456 --> 01:00:48,675
three months.

2777
01:00:48,675 --> 01:00:52,236
we need to not let this get   worse

2778
01:00:52,236 --> 01:00:53,227
worse and worse and worse.

2779
01:00:53,227 --> 01:00:57,422
we need to be very vocalwe need to be very vocal to the

2780
01:00:57,422 --> 01:00:57,552
upper levels of government

2781
01:00:57,552 --> 01:00:58,030
upper levels of government and

2782
01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:58,363
the

2783
01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:01,041
the city of windsor that the   status quo

2784
01:01:01,041 --> 01:01:02,029
status quo is not acceptable and   we're

2785
01:01:02,029 --> 01:01:04,227
we're only as good as our most   vulnerable people.

2786
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:04,227
vulnerable people.

2787
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:07,429
we have many loose in our   community

2788
01:01:07,429 --> 01:01:09,185
community and if they are doing   poorly

2789
01:01:09,185 --> 01:01:10,392
poorly, we are failing.  I

2790
01:01:10,392 --> 01:01:12,135
I want to thank you for all your   work

2791
01:01:12,135 --> 01:01:12,683
work you are doing.

2792
01:01:12,683 --> 01:01:14,273
thank you.

2793
01:01:14,273 --> 01:01:19,482
>> councillor rogers.  >> thank

2794
01:01:19,482 --> 01:01:20,255
>> thank you and through you,   great work

2795
01:01:20,255 --> 01:01:20,962
great work that everybody is   doing

2796
01:01:20,962 --> 01:01:20,962
doing.

2797
01:01:20,962 --> 01:01:30,020
I'm -- it makes a big ball   you're moving

2798
01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:30,729
you're moving worth it.

2799
01:01:30,729 --> 01:01:31,939
there's federal funding

2800
01:01:31,939 --> 01:01:31,939
there's federal funding

2801
01:01:31,939 --> 01:01:31,939
there's federal funding

2802
01:01:31,939 --> 01:01:32,380
there.

2803
01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:33,393
about 100,000 or so up there.

2804
01:01:33,393 --> 01:01:36,665
is this guaranteed funding   moving

2805
01:01:36,665 --> 01:01:39,982
moving into the future the first   foresee

2806
01:01:39,982 --> 01:01:40,991
foresee a top up that's   continually

2807
01:01:40,991 --> 01:01:43,183
continually happening or is this   top

2808
01:01:43,183 --> 01:01:44,398
top up now what's guaranteeing

2809
01:01:44,398 --> 01:01:44,841
the current

2810
01:01:44,841 --> 01:01:45,451
the current service we have   through the next

2811
01:01:45,451 --> 01:01:47,743
through the next year when we

2812
01:01:47,743 --> 01:01:47,802
see future budgets

2813
01:01:47,802 --> 01:01:47,802
see future budgets.

2814
01:01:47,802 --> 01:01:58,794
>> it doesn't directly align   with

2815
01:01:58,794 --> 01:02:00,004
with the county budget process

2816
01:02:00,004 --> 01:02:00,004
.

2817
01:02:00,004 --> 01:02:01,056
it's through year end.

2818
01:02:01,056 --> 01:02:03,800
the dollars we are seeking   through december 31st,

2819
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,270
through december 31st, 2026.

2820
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:06,309
I believe that's correct.

2821
01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:10,351
each year the city tells us what   her allocation from

2822
01:02:10,351 --> 01:02:13,516
her allocation from the   provincial

2823
01:02:13,516 --> 01:02:14,787
provincial and federal dollars   on behalf

2824
01:02:14,787 --> 01:02:15,877
on behalf of the region is and

2825
01:02:15,877 --> 01:02:16,147
that

2826
01:02:16,147 --> 01:02:17,631
that dollar figure was the same   last

2827
01:02:17,631 --> 01:02:18,788
last years it is this year.

2828
01:02:18,788 --> 01:02:19,714
there's no indication of any   increase

2829
01:02:19,714 --> 01:02:25,078
increase or decrease -- I can't   really tell

2830
01:02:25,078 --> 01:02:25,140
really tell you about that.

2831
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:29,050
>> think you further.  If

2832
01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:30,617
if I could just expand on that   hypothetically

2833
01:02:30,617 --> 01:02:34,256
hypothetically if the funding is

2834
01:02:34,256 --> 01:02:34,732
the

2835
01:02:34,732 --> 01:02:37,113
the same for next year, next   budget

2836
01:02:37,113 --> 01:02:38,807
budget we've already banked in

2837
01:02:38,807 --> 01:02:39,031
that increase

2838
01:02:39,031 --> 01:02:39,469
that increase so theoretically

2839
01:02:39,469 --> 01:02:39,735
there

2840
01:02:39,735 --> 01:02:41,227
there should be no increase in   less

2841
01:02:41,227 --> 01:02:42,216
less funds or cut.  Is that how

2842
01:02:42,216 --> 01:02:42,275
is that how I understand it?

2843
01:02:42,275 --> 01:02:51,894
>> through you I just want to

2844
01:02:51,894 --> 01:02:51,894
comment

2845
01:02:51,894 --> 01:02:54,878
comment on the cost of doing the

2846
01:02:54,878 --> 01:02:54,972
service

2847
01:02:54,972 --> 01:02:54,972
service.

2848
01:02:54,972 --> 01:03:00,511
this is the cost of $2026 so   that's

2849
01:03:00,511 --> 01:03:02,069
that's just one comment the   expenses of doing

2850
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:05,452
expenses of doing the program   might continue

2851
01:03:05,452 --> 01:03:06,437
might continue to increase which   we

2852
01:03:06,437 --> 01:03:07,664
we might have to cover unless   the provincial funding

2853
01:03:07,664 --> 01:03:07,724
the provincial funding also   increases

2854
01:03:07,724 --> 01:03:07,724
increases.

2855
01:03:07,724 --> 01:03:13,211
there's also 70,000 home funding

2856
01:03:13,211 --> 01:03:14,265
which is a federal funding that

2857
01:03:14,265 --> 01:03:14,265
which is a federal funding that

2858
01:03:14,265 --> 01:03:14,323
covers this

2859
01:03:14,323 --> 01:03:14,323
covers this.

2860
01:03:14,323 --> 01:03:21,223
that's only confirmed until 2028  2028.

2861
01:03:21,223 --> 01:03:21,223
2028.

2862
01:03:21,223 --> 01:03:22,875
so that's also a potential where   there's

2863
01:03:22,875 --> 01:03:26,651
there's 70,000 right now helping   us

2864
01:03:26,651 --> 01:03:27,849
us find that program, that   potentially might not be

2865
01:03:27,849 --> 01:03:27,909
potentially might not be there   in the future

2866
01:03:27,909 --> 01:03:27,909
in the future.

2867
01:03:27,909 --> 01:03:36,599
>> thank you very much, I   appreciated.

2868
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:36,599
appreciated.

2869
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:41,523
in terms of the 2026 beds -- 226   beds we've had

2870
01:03:41,523 --> 01:03:41,583
beds we've had that number the

2871
01:03:41,583 --> 01:03:43,095
last

2872
01:03:43,095 --> 01:03:45,238
last ten years and there is need   growing

2873
01:03:45,238 --> 01:03:46,600
growing out in the community.

2874
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,489
I'm happy to see the 5-dollar   increase for

2875
01:03:50,489 --> 01:03:55,189
increase for the per diem and   those

2876
01:03:55,189 --> 01:03:56,316
those different service levels

2877
01:03:56,316 --> 01:03:56,434
but I want to

2878
01:03:56,434 --> 01:03:58,010
but I want to drill home the   point before we

2879
01:03:58,010 --> 01:04:03,051
point before we expand beds to   ensure we

2880
01:04:03,051 --> 01:04:05,519
ensure we are taking care of   those

2881
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:06,519
those 226 to ensure the service

2882
01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:08,047
providers

2883
01:04:08,047 --> 01:04:15,203
providers -- have the funding

2884
01:04:15,203 --> 01:04:15,262
and resources

2885
01:04:15,262 --> 01:04:16,399
and resources they need to   ensure were

2886
01:04:16,399 --> 01:04:17,599
ensure were taking care of our   most vulnerable

2887
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:18,532
most vulnerable before you look

2888
01:04:18,532 --> 01:04:19,011
at bringing

2889
01:04:19,011 --> 01:04:21,165
at bringing that number up at

2890
01:04:21,165 --> 01:04:21,165
all.

2891
01:04:21,165 --> 01:04:21,165
all.

2892
01:04:21,165 --> 01:04:22,204
I'm a firm believer we have to

2893
01:04:22,204 --> 01:04:22,364
take

2894
01:04:22,364 --> 01:04:24,844
take care of our own house   before

2895
01:04:24,844 --> 01:04:27,247
before we look outside and I   think in terms of

2896
01:04:27,247 --> 01:04:27,306
think in terms of expanding that  that,

2897
01:04:27,306 --> 01:04:30,094
that, I don't think a   conversation

2898
01:04:30,094 --> 01:04:31,841
conversation with the city -- I   think that's our conversation

2899
01:04:31,841 --> 01:04:31,941
think that's our conversation

2900
01:04:31,941 --> 01:04:32,000
with the

2901
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,248
with the province so to me   that's the bigger conversation

2902
01:04:36,248 --> 01:04:36,248
that's the bigger conversation

2903
01:04:36,248 --> 01:04:36,248
.  Supportive

2904
01:04:36,248 --> 01:04:40,018
supportive of this and I will be

2905
01:04:40,018 --> 01:04:40,513
your

2906
01:04:40,513 --> 01:04:40,634
your second or whenever you are   ready.

2907
01:04:40,634 --> 01:04:40,634
ready.

2908
01:04:40,634 --> 01:04:42,252
thank you.

2909
01:04:42,252 --> 01:04:43,898
>> thank you.

2910
01:04:43,898 --> 01:04:47,231
councillor.  >> through you just a quick

2911
01:04:47,231 --> 01:04:47,355
>> through you just a quick   question on encampments

2912
01:04:47,355 --> 01:04:52,054
question on encampments and the   cost.

2913
01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:52,054
cost.

2914
01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:54,567
I understand encampments and   there

2915
01:04:54,567 --> 01:04:55,215
there must be a number of   different

2916
01:04:55,215 --> 01:04:56,803
different budget lines attached

2917
01:04:56,803 --> 01:05:00,039
you break them

2918
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:02,061
you break them up -- that's all   I need to

2919
01:05:02,061 --> 01:05:02,159
I need to know.

2920
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:09,485
>> through you the county   directly dealt

2921
01:05:09,485 --> 01:05:12,415
directly dealt with one this   year

2922
01:05:12,415 --> 01:05:12,415
year.  I

2923
01:05:12,415 --> 01:05:15,594
I believe it was broken up in

2924
01:05:15,594 --> 01:05:15,654
a   variety

2925
01:05:15,654 --> 01:05:16,908
variety of different budget   lines

2926
01:05:16,908 --> 01:05:17,475
lines as we have different   departments dealing with

2927
01:05:17,475 --> 01:05:17,575
departments dealing with it.

2928
01:05:17,575 --> 01:05:25,739
a legal services on-site and for

2929
01:05:25,739 --> 01:05:25,857
cleanup cost afterwards and

2930
01:05:25,857 --> 01:05:25,916
cleanup cost afterwards and   assisted the

2931
01:05:25,916 --> 01:05:27,487
assisted the locals as well

2932
01:05:27,487 --> 01:05:27,487
assisted the locals as well

2933
01:05:27,487 --> 01:05:27,487
assisted the locals as well

2934
01:05:27,487 --> 01:05:51,495
an encampment in the county of

2935
01:05:51,495 --> 01:05:52,974
essex

2936
01:05:52,974 --> 01:05:53,793
essex true cost is to taxpayers

2937
01:05:53,793 --> 01:05:53,793
.

2938
01:05:53,793 --> 01:05:55,386
thank you.

2939
01:05:55,386 --> 01:05:58,644
>> thank you.  Councillor

2940
01:05:58,644 --> 01:05:59,958
councillor.  >> thank

2941
01:05:59,958 --> 01:06:01,592
>> thank you through you I only   have

2942
01:06:01,592 --> 01:06:03,525
have one question -- were seeing

2943
01:06:03,525 --> 01:06:04,236
226 in

2944
01:06:04,236 --> 01:06:06,213
226 in the county and it's been   like

2945
01:06:06,213 --> 01:06:07,417
like that for ten years.

2946
01:06:07,417 --> 01:06:09,181
it's determined by the service   manager which is the

2947
01:06:09,181 --> 01:06:09,241
manager which is the city.

2948
01:06:09,241 --> 01:06:13,093
do we ever review that?

2949
01:06:13,093 --> 01:06:13,687
obviously in the past ten years

2950
01:06:13,687 --> 01:06:13,746
the county

2951
01:06:13,746 --> 01:06:16,329
the county has grown quite a bit

2952
01:06:16,329 --> 01:06:17,082
and

2953
01:06:17,082 --> 01:06:17,321
and we have the same issues now   the

2954
01:06:17,321 --> 01:06:21,610
the county and in the city   centre

2955
01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:21,610
centre.

2956
01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:24,796
at what point do we review the   allocations

2957
01:06:24,796 --> 01:06:26,217
allocations between the city and   county

2958
01:06:26,217 --> 01:06:26,716
county or are we part of that   discussion

2959
01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:26,716
discussion?

2960
01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:37,415
>> my understanding is when the   program was

2961
01:06:37,415 --> 01:06:40,067
program was instituted the city

2962
01:06:40,067 --> 01:06:41,543
itself

2963
01:06:41,543 --> 01:06:44,229
itself and the 226 beds in the   county and that number

2964
01:06:44,229 --> 01:06:44,287
county and that number remains

2965
01:06:44,287 --> 01:06:45,815
--

2966
01:06:45,815 --> 01:06:51,233
-- it just remain static.

2967
01:06:51,233 --> 01:06:51,945
it certainly conversation we   could have with

2968
01:06:51,945 --> 01:06:52,004
could have with administration

2969
01:06:52,004 --> 01:06:56,277
if council wants us

2970
01:06:56,277 --> 01:06:56,341
if council wants us to.

2971
01:06:56,341 --> 01:07:02,412
>> anyone else?  I'm going to

2972
01:07:02,412 --> 01:07:02,471
I'm going to read the   recommendations

2973
01:07:02,471 --> 01:07:02,471
recommendations.

2974
01:07:02,471 --> 01:07:09,851
-- I'm giving everybody two   looks around

2975
01:07:09,851 --> 01:07:12,793
looks around because get your   hands

2976
01:07:12,793 --> 01:07:13,012
hands up early or you're going

2977
01:07:13,012 --> 01:07:13,070
to get

2978
01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:14,601
to get missed.

2979
01:07:14,601 --> 01:07:17,174
>> just for some clarification

2980
01:07:17,174 --> 01:07:17,234
as well when we

2981
01:07:17,234 --> 01:07:17,392
as well when we make references

2982
01:07:17,392 --> 01:07:22,424
the overall proposed for the

2983
01:07:22,424 --> 01:07:24,064
the overall proposed for the 26   budget

2984
01:07:24,064 --> 01:07:25,547
budget and we look at net of   recoveries

2985
01:07:25,547 --> 01:07:25,547
recoveries.

2986
01:07:25,547 --> 01:07:31,204
the total of 1.2 million is an   increased

2987
01:07:31,204 --> 01:07:32,781
increased -- they make reference

2988
01:07:32,781 --> 01:07:34,872
stated

2989
01:07:34,872 --> 01:07:38,210
stated from 2025 budget 760 --

2990
01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:38,210
...

2991
01:07:38,210 --> 01:07:49,434
so I can understand is these   numbers

2992
01:07:49,434 --> 01:08:02,492
numbers are needed are we   referring

2993
01:08:02,492 --> 01:08:03,428
referring to the city there's an

2994
01:08:03,428 --> 01:08:03,918
increase

2995
01:08:03,918 --> 01:08:04,255
increase here we're looking more

2996
01:08:04,255 --> 01:08:04,314
money for them?  To

2997
01:08:04,314 --> 01:08:10,212
to help.  >> through you

2998
01:08:10,212 --> 01:08:10,271
>> through you ward and we   definitely communicated

2999
01:08:10,271 --> 01:08:15,036
definitely communicated team   have communicated that on
Several

3000
01:08:15,036 --> 01:08:15,036
definitely communicated team   have communicated that on
Several

3001
01:08:15,036 --> 01:08:19,559
several occasions that we   obviously

3002
01:08:19,559 --> 01:08:20,751
obviously need this service on

3003
01:08:20,751 --> 01:08:22,240
where always looking for
Additional provincial

3004
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,240
where always looking for
Additional provincial

3005
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:22,299
additional provincial dollars.

3006
01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:22,299


3007
01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:26,744
we've fought in other years and

3008
01:08:26,744 --> 01:08:27,283
if

3009
01:08:27,283 --> 01:08:28,391
if there's ever any surpluses,   they've been

3010
01:08:28,391 --> 01:08:30,044
they've been good at allowing

3011
01:08:30,044 --> 01:08:31,736
us   to shift

3012
01:08:31,736 --> 01:08:33,098
to shift the surplus dollars   somewhere

3013
01:08:33,098 --> 01:08:33,313
somewhere else.

3014
01:08:33,313 --> 01:08:34,746
however they typically don't   know

3015
01:08:34,746 --> 01:08:35,571
know if there's any service   dollars

3016
01:08:35,571 --> 01:08:35,851
dollars until closer to the end   of march

3017
01:08:35,851 --> 01:08:35,851
of march.

3018
01:08:35,851 --> 01:08:42,127
but they do know we have a need   and

3019
01:08:42,127 --> 01:08:44,002
and are using additional   municipal dollars to continue
With

3020
01:08:44,002 --> 01:08:44,002
and are using additional   municipal dollars to continue
With

3021
01:08:44,002 --> 01:08:44,062
with these programs.

3022
01:08:44,062 --> 01:08:51,237
if there's any additional or   federal dollars...

3023
01:08:51,237 --> 01:08:51,297
federal dollars...  >>

3024
01:08:51,297 --> 01:08:55,392
>> so through you those dollars   are actually

3025
01:08:55,392 --> 01:08:56,104
are actually at risk.

3026
01:08:56,104 --> 01:09:03,620
>> three u. I believe I   highlighted that

3027
01:09:03,620 --> 01:09:04,601
highlighted that as a risk so   the

3028
01:09:04,601 --> 01:09:05,804
the budget will not be approved   until

3029
01:09:05,804 --> 01:09:06,674
until the end of january so   there's a

3030
01:09:06,674 --> 01:09:08,262
there's a risk with that.

3031
01:09:08,262 --> 01:09:12,088
they've confirmed it's a best

3032
01:09:12,088 --> 01:09:12,088
estimate

3033
01:09:12,088 --> 01:09:13,069
estimate at this time and that's

3034
01:09:13,069 --> 01:09:13,188
what we gave in

3035
01:09:13,188 --> 01:09:13,349
what we gave in our budget.

3036
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:19,024
>> okay and any reference to the

3037
01:09:19,024 --> 01:09:20,634
mention of federal dollars

3038
01:09:20,634 --> 01:09:22,266
mention of federal dollars I   think was

3039
01:09:22,266 --> 01:09:27,536
think was -- those again our   dollars

3040
01:09:27,536 --> 01:09:27,870
dollars that had the   flow-through

3041
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:33,774
flow-through the service manage   --

3042
01:09:33,774 --> 01:09:35,347
-- manager of the city?

3043
01:09:35,347 --> 01:09:37,594
>> that's correct.  Further reaching

3044
01:09:37,594 --> 01:09:38,150
further reaching home and it can

3045
01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:38,515
be

3046
01:09:38,515 --> 01:09:39,572
be added if she would like.

3047
01:09:39,572 --> 01:09:40,924
there's a committee that decides

3048
01:09:40,924 --> 01:09:41,428
what to

3049
01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:42,353
what to do with those dollars

3050
01:09:42,353 --> 01:09:43,945
so   it's

3051
01:09:43,945 --> 01:09:44,465
it's a bit different than the   other

3052
01:09:44,465 --> 01:09:47,769
other provincial dollars but   they've allocated

3053
01:09:47,769 --> 01:09:53,561
they've allocated 70,000.  >> I

3054
01:09:53,561 --> 01:09:55,763
>> I guess my question would be

3055
01:09:55,763 --> 01:09:55,986
to administration

3056
01:09:55,986 --> 01:09:56,208
to administration then if those   dollars

3057
01:09:56,208 --> 01:09:59,880
dollars that are at risk and   obviously

3058
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,165
obviously you've heard around

3059
01:10:02,165 --> 01:10:02,165
the

3060
01:10:02,165 --> 01:10:03,659
the table in terms of the   requirements we

3061
01:10:03,659 --> 01:10:03,719
requirements we are seeing   obviously homelessness

3062
01:10:03,719 --> 01:10:06,409
obviously homelessness is   becoming a critical

3063
01:10:06,409 --> 01:10:09,534
becoming a critical issue for

3064
01:10:09,534 --> 01:10:09,534
u  us.

3065
01:10:09,534 --> 01:10:09,534
us.

3066
01:10:09,534 --> 01:10:11,369
we've seen the encampments.

3067
01:10:11,369 --> 01:10:13,964
now even our own municipality

3068
01:10:13,964 --> 01:10:15,135
we   are faced with

3069
01:10:15,135 --> 01:10:15,193
are faced with an encampment   rate

3070
01:10:15,193 --> 01:10:15,312
rate as we speak.

3071
01:10:15,312 --> 01:10:24,218
so I'm glad to see   administration will continue to

3072
01:10:24,218 --> 01:10:24,218
administration will continue to

3073
01:10:24,218 --> 01:10:24,276
dedicate

3074
01:10:24,276 --> 01:10:28,797
dedicate funding who us.

3075
01:10:28,797 --> 01:10:33,229
obviously I don't know if it   will be contravening the

3076
01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:33,229
obviously I don't know if it   will be contravening the

3077
01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:36,568
arrangement, the signed   agreement

3078
01:10:36,568 --> 01:10:38,270
agreement that we have that the

3079
01:10:38,270 --> 01:10:38,548
city as

3080
01:10:38,548 --> 01:10:38,609
city as a service provider and

3081
01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:38,706
so

3082
01:10:38,706 --> 01:10:40,255
so forth.

3083
01:10:40,255 --> 01:10:44,627
but will administration come   back to

3084
01:10:44,627 --> 01:10:44,686
back to us?

3085
01:10:44,686 --> 01:10:47,264
I'm sure you will in terms of   making up the difference

3086
01:10:47,264 --> 01:10:47,328
making up the difference because

3087
01:10:47,328 --> 01:10:48,850
obviously

3088
01:10:48,850 --> 01:10:51,383
obviously there is a requirement

3089
01:10:51,383 --> 01:10:51,383
  requirement.

3090
01:10:51,383 --> 01:10:51,383
requirement.

3091
01:10:51,383 --> 01:10:54,063
there's a huge requirement   that's

3092
01:10:54,063 --> 01:10:54,400
that's there and if those

3093
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:00,568
dollars are direct risk -- the   reserve

3094
01:11:00,568 --> 01:11:05,579
reserve fund that we have.  >>

3095
01:11:05,579 --> 01:11:09,137
>> through you those dollars are   for

3096
01:11:09,137 --> 01:11:11,511
for the capital, the social   housing

3097
01:11:11,511 --> 01:11:12,452
housing capitals what the   reserve was intended to

3098
01:11:12,452 --> 01:11:12,510
reserve was intended to support

3099
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:12,510
.

3100
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:16,963
if it does come to that we would   definitely

3101
01:11:16,963 --> 01:11:18,387
definitely come back to council   at

3102
01:11:18,387 --> 01:11:19,204
at that time depending on the   dollar value

3103
01:11:19,204 --> 01:11:20,725
dollar value of what we would

3104
01:11:20,725 --> 01:11:20,784
need to compensate for

3105
01:11:20,784 --> 01:11:20,784
need to compensate for.

3106
01:11:20,784 --> 01:11:26,380
we would have to make the   decision at

3107
01:11:26,380 --> 01:11:27,581
decision at that time but it   would have to

3108
01:11:27,581 --> 01:11:28,952
would have to come to council

3109
01:11:28,952 --> 01:11:29,501
if   there

3110
01:11:29,501 --> 01:11:30,001
there were additional dollars   required for this

3111
01:11:30,001 --> 01:11:33,392
required for this.  >> and finally

3112
01:11:33,392 --> 01:11:34,606
>> and finally I think it's very   important and I know we

3113
01:11:34,606 --> 01:11:34,665
important and I know we keep   pushing

3114
01:11:34,665 --> 01:11:37,927
pushing back the meeting with

3115
01:11:37,927 --> 01:11:37,987
the city

3116
01:11:37,987 --> 01:11:38,703
the city and so forth but I   think

3117
01:11:38,703 --> 01:11:43,029
think it's critical we are at   the crossroads here in

3118
01:11:43,029 --> 01:11:43,088
the crossroads here in terms of   requirements

3119
01:11:43,088 --> 01:11:49,638
requirements in particular in

3120
01:11:49,638 --> 01:11:49,698
25   years

3121
01:11:49,698 --> 01:11:51,706
years working on the same   agreement

3122
01:11:51,706 --> 01:11:52,701
agreement there needs to be   improvements

3123
01:11:52,701 --> 01:11:52,701
improvements.

3124
01:11:52,701 --> 01:11:57,305
>> thank you.

3125
01:11:57,305 --> 01:11:57,364
anybody else?

3126
01:11:57,364 --> 01:12:04,565
I'm going to read the   recommendation

3127
01:12:04,565 --> 01:12:04,565
recommendation.

3128
01:12:04,565 --> 01:12:06,545
there's a recommendation before   council

3129
01:12:06,545 --> 01:12:07,915
council that the presentation

3130
01:12:07,915 --> 01:12:07,915
for

3131
01:12:07,915 --> 01:12:10,620
for the proposed 2026 community   services residential

3132
01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:11,880
services residential services   budget

3133
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,197
budget be received and further   the

3134
01:12:13,197 --> 01:12:17,209
the 2026 budget estimates   community services residential
Services

3135
01:12:17,209 --> 01:12:17,209
the 2026 budget estimates   community services residential
Services

3136
01:12:17,209 --> 01:12:20,155
services be received or received   and

3137
01:12:20,155 --> 01:12:20,331
and approved.

3138
01:12:20,331 --> 01:12:21,096
I'm looking to you councillor

3139
01:12:21,096 --> 01:12:21,096
bailey

3140
01:12:21,096 --> 01:12:21,096
bailey.

3141
01:12:21,096 --> 01:12:26,553
>> a question if I could.

3142
01:12:26,553 --> 01:12:28,593
would you preferred to be a   separate motion

3143
01:12:28,593 --> 01:12:28,653
separate motion or integrated   into this

3144
01:12:28,653 --> 01:12:30,165
into this one?

3145
01:12:30,165 --> 01:12:33,940
I'd like to see the 5-dollar   increase per diem

3146
01:12:33,940 --> 01:12:34,382
increase per diem forward   subject

3147
01:12:34,382 --> 01:12:35,519
subject to the city matching   that

3148
01:12:35,519 --> 01:12:36,364
that, I think it's really   essential

3149
01:12:36,364 --> 01:12:39,329
essential at a time when we're   talking

3150
01:12:39,329 --> 01:12:40,418
talking about partnership that   we are lockstep.

3151
01:12:40,418 --> 01:12:40,418
we are lockstep.

3152
01:12:40,418 --> 01:12:44,091
that's our intention --

3153
01:12:44,091 --> 01:12:45,291
>> I will look to the madam   clerk

3154
01:12:45,291 --> 01:12:45,291
clerk.

3155
01:12:45,291 --> 01:12:52,952
>> could amend that wording   provided

3156
01:12:52,952 --> 01:12:55,796
provided that the city of   windsor increase

3157
01:12:55,796 --> 01:12:55,920
windsor increase by $5 as well

3158
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:55,920
.

3159
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:03,639
>> madame morden, may I speak to   this

3160
01:13:03,639 --> 01:13:05,992
this motion because it's changed   a

3161
01:13:05,992 --> 01:13:06,051
a little?

3162
01:13:06,051 --> 01:13:11,076
>> I wanted to wait to get it

3163
01:13:11,076 --> 01:13:11,134
up   on the

3164
01:13:11,134 --> 01:13:12,995
on the board if you don't mind   just so we have

3165
01:13:12,995 --> 01:13:13,215
just so we have a clearly in   front of us

3166
01:13:13,215 --> 01:13:26,504
front of us.

3167
01:13:26,504 --> 01:13:31,594
the revised motion should be in

3168
01:13:31,594 --> 01:13:31,653
your screens

3169
01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:31,653
your screens.

3170
01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:37,454
>> first I will look to the   mover.

3171
01:13:37,454 --> 01:13:37,454
mover.

3172
01:13:37,454 --> 01:13:37,692
you are good with the rewording

3173
01:13:37,692 --> 01:13:37,692
?

3174
01:13:37,692 --> 01:13:42,873
then we will get a second or.

3175
01:13:42,873 --> 01:13:51,980
you are good with that madame   councillor

3176
01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:51,980
councillor?

3177
01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:55,170
seconded by councillor rogers.

3178
01:13:55,170 --> 01:13:55,170


3179
01:13:55,170 --> 01:14:01,238
I will open the floor to you   councillor bailey

3180
01:14:01,238 --> 01:14:01,238
councillor bailey.

3181
01:14:01,238 --> 01:14:01,238
bondy.  Too

3182
01:14:01,238 --> 01:14:07,123
too many bees here.  >> thank you.

3183
01:14:07,123 --> 01:14:07,123
>> thank you.

3184
01:14:07,123 --> 01:14:09,473
I will be supporting the motion

3185
01:14:09,473 --> 01:14:10,196
.  My worry is

3186
01:14:10,196 --> 01:14:11,191
my worry is let's say the city

3187
01:14:11,191 --> 01:14:11,526
of windsor

3188
01:14:11,526 --> 01:14:11,746
of windsor does not and we want

3189
01:14:11,746 --> 01:14:11,805
to

3190
01:14:11,805 --> 01:14:17,128
to because we realize maybe it's   more expensive

3191
01:14:17,128 --> 01:14:18,342
more expensive to provide   services in

3192
01:14:18,342 --> 01:14:18,934
services in the county because

3193
01:14:18,934 --> 01:14:19,153
we

3194
01:14:19,153 --> 01:14:19,368
we are rural and people have to

3195
01:14:19,368 --> 01:14:20,954
drive father

3196
01:14:20,954 --> 01:14:23,387
drive father -- further and all   that

3197
01:14:23,387 --> 01:14:23,871
that stuff.

3198
01:14:23,871 --> 01:14:25,284
would it be a reconsideration

3199
01:14:25,284 --> 01:14:25,343
vote if

3200
01:14:25,343 --> 01:14:26,343
vote if it has to come back?

3201
01:14:26,343 --> 01:14:27,495
I'm worried if the city does not   supported

3202
01:14:27,495 --> 01:14:30,878
supported them our folks are   just left

3203
01:14:30,878 --> 01:14:33,007
just left hanging.  That's my only

3204
01:14:33,007 --> 01:14:33,066
that's my only worry.

3205
01:14:33,066 --> 01:14:38,867
>> a new motion would have to be   brought

3206
01:14:38,867 --> 01:14:43,182
brought to provide a standalone

3207
01:14:43,182 --> 01:14:43,402
5-dollar increase on behalf

3208
01:14:43,402 --> 01:14:43,463
5-dollar increase on behalf of   the county

3209
01:14:43,463 --> 01:14:43,463
the county.

3210
01:14:43,463 --> 01:14:49,737
anyone else?  Councillor

3211
01:14:49,737 --> 01:14:51,388
councillor rogers query.  >> thank

3212
01:14:51,388 --> 01:14:53,141
>> thank you enter you again   maybe a

3213
01:14:53,141 --> 01:14:53,567
maybe a little more   clarification

3214
01:14:53,567 --> 01:14:53,567
clarification.

3215
01:14:53,567 --> 01:14:57,291
if and when the city makes their   decision and if and

3216
01:14:57,291 --> 01:14:58,865
decision and if and when they

3217
01:14:58,865 --> 01:14:58,924
are opposed

3218
01:14:58,924 --> 01:15:00,797
are opposed either way they land   on

3219
01:15:00,797 --> 01:15:02,051
on it, is that a discussion that

3220
01:15:02,051 --> 01:15:02,997
will come

3221
01:15:02,997 --> 01:15:03,772
will come forward as an update   from administration

3222
01:15:03,772 --> 01:15:04,721
from administration for us to

3223
01:15:04,721 --> 01:15:04,781
be   able

3224
01:15:04,781 --> 01:15:06,917
able to make the motion?

3225
01:15:06,917 --> 01:15:08,404
knowing the process it's not   going

3226
01:15:08,404 --> 01:15:09,715
going to have to be a notice of   motion

3227
01:15:09,715 --> 01:15:09,715
motion.

3228
01:15:09,715 --> 01:15:11,663
were going to have that within   the

3229
01:15:11,663 --> 01:15:13,803
the agenda as an update on be   able to

3230
01:15:13,803 --> 01:15:15,929
able to have the discussion at

3231
01:15:15,929 --> 01:15:16,149
that

3232
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:16,921
that time.

3233
01:15:16,921 --> 01:15:18,535
>> through you ward and,   administration

3234
01:15:18,535 --> 01:15:19,955
administration will return with   results

3235
01:15:19,955 --> 01:15:20,731
results of the budgeting process

3236
01:15:20,731 --> 01:15:21,158
to confirm either way the

3237
01:15:21,158 --> 01:15:21,222
to confirm either way the   decision

3238
01:15:21,222 --> 01:15:21,222
decision.

3239
01:15:21,222 --> 01:15:25,309
>> any further questions then?

3240
01:15:25,309 --> 01:15:28,431
seeing none, councillor bondy   did you have

3241
01:15:28,431 --> 01:15:28,489
did you have further comment?

3242
01:15:28,489 --> 01:15:35,269
you see my dilemma, right?

3243
01:15:35,269 --> 01:15:37,072
trying to make sure of got   everybody covered and

3244
01:15:37,072 --> 01:15:38,658
everybody covered and also be

3245
01:15:38,658 --> 01:15:38,658
quick

3246
01:15:38,658 --> 01:15:41,073
quick devote.

3247
01:15:41,073 --> 01:15:41,251
asking to vote electronically,

3248
01:15:41,251 --> 01:15:42,889
please.

3249
01:15:42,889 --> 01:15:42,889
please.

3250
01:15:42,889 --> 01:15:52,667
and that's carried.  Thank

3251
01:15:52,667 --> 01:15:54,246
thank you.

3252
01:15:54,246 --> 01:15:56,873
thank you team.

3253
01:15:56,873 --> 01:16:03,225
next up is the sun par lindholm.

3254
01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:05,794
for the report we have natasha   she

3255
01:16:05,794 --> 01:16:08,854
she learned -- here to present

3256
01:16:08,854 --> 01:16:08,854
.

3257
01:16:08,854 --> 01:16:14,725
this is a first for you.

3258
01:16:14,725 --> 01:16:16,932
don't be nervous, nobody bites

3259
01:16:16,932 --> 01:16:17,694
here.
At

3260
01:16:17,694 --> 01:16:17,694
here.
At

3261
01:16:17,694 --> 01:16:18,194
at least not -- they're just   little

3262
01:16:18,194 --> 01:16:18,194
little.

3263
01:16:18,194 --> 01:16:23,833
>> thank you ward and to council  council.

3264
01:16:23,833 --> 01:16:23,892
council.  Good morning,

3265
01:16:23,892 --> 01:16:23,951
good morning, everyone.

3266
01:16:23,951 --> 01:16:29,256
presenting the 2026 budget I'd   like to start

3267
01:16:29,256 --> 01:16:29,376
like to start off with some   thank

3268
01:16:29,376 --> 01:16:33,195
thank youse to the finance team   as

3269
01:16:33,195 --> 01:16:35,609
as well as leadership team   across the board as

3270
01:16:35,609 --> 01:16:36,306
across the board as the warden

3271
01:16:36,306 --> 01:16:36,425
mention this is my

3272
01:16:36,425 --> 01:16:36,584
mention this is my first year   presenting

3273
01:16:36,584 --> 01:16:36,584
presenting.

3274
01:16:36,584 --> 01:16:44,409
bear with me as I make my way   through the presentation

3275
01:16:44,409 --> 01:16:44,409
through the presentation.

3276
01:16:44,409 --> 01:16:50,703
the mission statement before you   won't be unfamiliar

3277
01:16:50,703 --> 01:16:50,703
won't be unfamiliar.

3278
01:16:50,703 --> 01:16:52,618
many of you have seen this   before

3279
01:16:52,618 --> 01:16:52,736
before and prior presentations

3280
01:16:52,736 --> 01:17:00,779
  presentations...
This continues to

3281
01:17:00,779 --> 01:17:00,779
  presentations...
This continues to

3282
01:17:00,779 --> 01:17:03,505
this continues to serve as the   fundamental

3283
01:17:03,505 --> 01:17:05,003
fundamental service of the home.

3284
01:17:05,003 --> 01:17:06,643
it guides our actions and goals

3285
01:17:06,643 --> 01:17:06,643
.  At

3286
01:17:06,643 --> 01:17:09,504
at sun pilar we envision a   high-performing

3287
01:17:09,504 --> 01:17:14,394
high-performing vibrant home   that welcomes diversity across
Staff

3288
01:17:14,394 --> 01:17:14,394
high-performing vibrant home   that welcomes diversity across
Staff

3289
01:17:14,394 --> 01:17:15,967
staff and residents.

3290
01:17:15,967 --> 01:17:20,944
empowering to foster meaningful

3291
01:17:20,944 --> 01:17:21,541
relationships

3292
01:17:21,541 --> 01:17:22,363
relationships based on   compassion

3293
01:17:22,363 --> 01:17:23,573
compassion, innovation and   dignity

3294
01:17:23,573 --> 01:17:24,552
dignity that creates an   environment

3295
01:17:24,552 --> 01:17:26,910
environment where people want

3296
01:17:26,910 --> 01:17:27,349
to   live

3297
01:17:27,349 --> 01:17:28,658
live and work.

3298
01:17:28,658 --> 01:17:29,593
where residents experience   excellent quality of

3299
01:17:29,593 --> 01:17:30,137
excellent quality of life and   care built on shared

3300
01:17:30,137 --> 01:17:30,196
care built on shared values.

3301
01:17:30,196 --> 01:17:34,050
the budget before you today   addresses

3302
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:38,362
addresses changing aging   demographic

3303
01:17:38,362 --> 01:17:39,723
demographic which continues to

3304
01:17:39,723 --> 01:17:40,056
increase

3305
01:17:40,056 --> 01:17:42,684
increase in complexity and   acuity.

3306
01:17:42,684 --> 01:17:42,684
acuity.

3307
01:17:42,684 --> 01:17:44,489
however this budget proposed to   you today

3308
01:17:44,489 --> 01:17:46,574
you today seeks to meet the   needs across that

3309
01:17:46,574 --> 01:17:46,633
needs across that continuum of

3310
01:17:46,633 --> 01:17:48,154
care

3311
01:17:48,154 --> 01:17:50,509
care while running a home that

3312
01:17:50,509 --> 01:17:50,889
everybody

3313
01:17:50,889 --> 01:17:51,167
everybody across the county of

3314
01:17:51,167 --> 01:17:51,226
essex can be proud of

3315
01:17:51,226 --> 01:17:51,226
essex can be proud of.

3316
01:17:51,226 --> 01:17:57,302
the remainder of the   presentation

3317
01:17:57,302 --> 01:17:59,169
presentation is broken down by   departments

3318
01:17:59,169 --> 01:17:59,877
departments within the home.

3319
01:17:59,877 --> 01:18:03,489
as you can see the overall   increase

3320
01:18:03,489 --> 01:18:06,713
increase of approximately   620,000 relates

3321
01:18:06,713 --> 01:18:07,641
620,000 relates to both nonunion

3322
01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:07,701
and contractual

3323
01:18:07,701 --> 01:18:09,285
and contractual wage increases

3324
01:18:09,285 --> 01:18:10,152
and

3325
01:18:10,152 --> 01:18:12,400
and wage benefits as well.

3326
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:18,112
there's an increased ongoing   replacement

3327
01:18:18,112 --> 01:18:19,581
replacement of it equipment,   laptops, smart

3328
01:18:19,581 --> 01:18:21,218
laptops, smart phones, et cetera

3329
01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:21,218
  cetera.

3330
01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:21,218
cetera.

3331
01:18:21,218 --> 01:18:26,533
there were rolls previously   aligned to the

3332
01:18:26,533 --> 01:18:26,592
aligned to the sun parlour   budget

3333
01:18:26,592 --> 01:18:30,509
budget so now we are seeing --

3334
01:18:30,509 --> 01:18:32,103
that were previously

3335
01:18:32,103 --> 01:18:32,765
that were previously aligned to

3336
01:18:32,765 --> 01:18:33,302
various departmental

3337
01:18:33,302 --> 01:18:33,464
various departmental budgets.

3338
01:18:33,464 --> 01:18:36,940
for example, we are now seeing

3339
01:18:36,940 --> 01:18:37,640
hr

3340
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,081
hr resources to the sun par   lindholm

3341
01:18:39,081 --> 01:18:39,853
lindholm budget and expense   within

3342
01:18:39,853 --> 01:18:40,567
within the sun parlour home   budget

3343
01:18:40,567 --> 01:18:40,626
budget before you here today.

3344
01:18:40,626 --> 01:18:47,174
next up we turn to nursing and

3345
01:18:47,174 --> 01:18:47,292
personal care.

3346
01:18:47,292 --> 01:18:52,810
the biggest difference here   within

3347
01:18:52,810 --> 01:18:55,981
within sun parlour home the   budget last

3348
01:18:55,981 --> 01:19:00,148
budget last year was around   $8 million while the projection

3349
01:19:00,148 --> 01:19:00,148
$8 million while the projection

3350
01:19:00,148 --> 01:19:00,642
notes

3351
01:19:00,642 --> 01:19:01,735
notes and overspend we're   expecting

3352
01:19:01,735 --> 01:19:03,067
expecting to maintain a balanced

3353
01:19:03,067 --> 01:19:03,714
budget

3354
01:19:03,714 --> 01:19:05,150
budget due to an increase in   ministry

3355
01:19:05,150 --> 01:19:06,473
ministry funding that we have

3356
01:19:06,473 --> 01:19:06,532
received.
Going into

3357
01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:06,532
received.
Going into

3358
01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:10,586
going into 2026 you will notice

3359
01:19:10,586 --> 01:19:10,645
a

3360
01:19:10,645 --> 01:19:12,504
a decreased budget reflected   down

3361
01:19:12,504 --> 01:19:13,762
down by approximately $1 million   as

3362
01:19:13,762 --> 01:19:14,584
as we continue to see increased   support from the

3363
01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:14,684
support from the province.

3364
01:19:14,684 --> 01:19:19,125
we had the four hours of care   target

3365
01:19:19,125 --> 01:19:21,742
target set by the ministry which   is

3366
01:19:21,742 --> 01:19:23,326
is also supported by levy   funding

3367
01:19:23,326 --> 01:19:23,326
funding.

3368
01:19:23,326 --> 01:19:26,286
the budget is designed to   deliver

3369
01:19:26,286 --> 01:19:27,706
deliver exemplary care and   services.

3370
01:19:27,706 --> 01:19:27,706
services.

3371
01:19:27,706 --> 01:19:28,313
we are also welcoming our new   director

3372
01:19:28,313 --> 01:19:33,927
director of care and an   anticipated

3373
01:19:33,927 --> 01:19:34,152
anticipated nurse practitioners

3374
01:19:34,152 --> 01:19:36,565
so we can

3375
01:19:36,565 --> 01:19:37,432
so we can better understand the   opportunities we have and

3376
01:19:37,432 --> 01:19:37,491
opportunities we have and   increase the

3377
01:19:37,491 --> 01:19:41,367
increase the quality of care and   experience for residents at

3378
01:19:41,367 --> 01:19:41,428
experience for residents at sun   parlor home

3379
01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:41,428
parlor home.

3380
01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:47,310
a few other key considerations

3381
01:19:47,310 --> 01:19:48,508
you want

3382
01:19:48,508 --> 01:19:51,077
you want to note is increased

3383
01:19:51,077 --> 01:19:51,136
cost related

3384
01:19:51,136 --> 01:19:51,638
cost related to membership fees

3385
01:19:51,638 --> 01:19:51,835
specific

3386
01:19:51,835 --> 01:19:52,845
specific to our rn group.

3387
01:19:52,845 --> 01:19:57,729
we are now paying for annual   college memberships

3388
01:19:57,729 --> 01:19:57,948
college memberships and   contractual obligations

3389
01:19:57,948 --> 01:19:58,007
contractual obligations for our   staff

3390
01:19:58,007 --> 01:19:58,007
staff.

3391
01:19:58,007 --> 01:20:04,374
next up we turn to life   enrichment

3392
01:20:04,374 --> 01:20:04,374
enrichment.

3393
01:20:04,374 --> 01:20:11,286
it's comprised of recreation   aids

3394
01:20:11,286 --> 01:20:11,829
aids and physiotherapy   assistance

3395
01:20:11,829 --> 01:20:11,887
assistance.  It promotes

3396
01:20:11,887 --> 01:20:15,306
it promotes the health and   well-being

3397
01:20:15,306 --> 01:20:17,393
well-being of residents through   engagement, wellness activity

3398
01:20:17,393 --> 01:20:17,452
engagement, wellness activity   and ultimately contributes

3399
01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:20,556
and ultimately contributes   towards healthy happy

3400
01:20:20,556 --> 01:20:22,030
towards healthy happy residents.

3401
01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:22,030


3402
01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:28,039
with a high quality of life --

3403
01:20:28,039 --> 01:20:30,673
approximately

3404
01:20:30,673 --> 01:20:32,428
approximately 140,000 in this

3405
01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:32,428
increase

3406
01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:34,827
increase is directly related to

3407
01:20:34,827 --> 01:20:36,977
support for recreation aids

3408
01:20:36,977 --> 01:20:37,036
support for recreation aids as   well

3409
01:20:37,036 --> 01:20:40,164
well as union contractual wage

3410
01:20:40,164 --> 01:20:41,635
increases

3411
01:20:41,635 --> 01:20:45,425
increases and purchase service   increases for physiotherapy

3412
01:20:45,425 --> 01:20:57,069
increases for physiotherapy.

3413
01:20:57,069 --> 01:21:01,599
you will see an increase here   based solely on

3414
01:21:01,599 --> 01:21:05,160
based solely on contractual --   contractual

3415
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:05,543
contractual wage increases and   cost related to

3416
01:21:05,543 --> 01:21:05,640
cost related to food.

3417
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:19,328
the increase around 23,000 is

3418
01:21:19,328 --> 01:21:19,387
directly related to contractual
Wage

3419
01:21:19,387 --> 01:21:19,387
directly related to contractual
Wage

3420
01:21:19,387 --> 01:21:19,446
wage increases in inflationary   cost

3421
01:21:19,446 --> 01:21:19,446
cost.

3422
01:21:19,446 --> 01:21:29,483
were seeing an increase   attributing

3423
01:21:29,483 --> 01:21:30,896
attributing to our contractual

3424
01:21:30,896 --> 01:21:31,782
wage increases

3425
01:21:31,782 --> 01:21:32,321
wage increases and inflationary

3426
01:21:32,321 --> 01:21:32,484
costs

3427
01:21:32,484 --> 01:21:32,664
costs related to supplies for   this

3428
01:21:32,664 --> 01:21:45,474
this department.

3429
01:21:45,474 --> 01:21:47,383
we are also seeing an increase

3430
01:21:47,383 --> 01:21:48,912
in

3431
01:21:48,912 --> 01:21:55,250
in related to external contracts

3432
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:56,303
that are rising

3433
01:21:56,303 --> 01:21:57,249
that are rising with inflation

3434
01:21:57,249 --> 01:21:57,683
as

3435
01:21:57,683 --> 01:21:58,123
as well.

3436
01:21:58,123 --> 01:22:01,244
and we continue with many items   across the

3437
01:22:01,244 --> 01:22:04,905
across the home to replace based

3438
01:22:04,905 --> 01:22:05,231
on

3439
01:22:05,231 --> 01:22:05,570
on life expectancy and lifecycle   of

3440
01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:05,688
of those items.

3441
01:22:05,688 --> 01:22:12,958
when we look at our other   capital line

3442
01:22:12,958 --> 01:22:13,938
capital line here the bulk of   the

3443
01:22:13,938 --> 01:22:15,511
the budget is reserved bonded.

3444
01:22:15,511 --> 01:22:15,511


3445
01:22:15,511 --> 01:22:19,887
however we are spending less in

3446
01:22:19,887 --> 01:22:21,320
2026.
That

3447
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:21,320
2026.
That

3448
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,575
that being said we ultimately   need to make

3449
01:22:22,575 --> 01:22:24,150
need to make some decisions   around

3450
01:22:24,150 --> 01:22:28,158
around capital costs related to   renovations

3451
01:22:28,158 --> 01:22:30,072
renovations or investments in

3452
01:22:30,072 --> 01:22:30,131
new building

3453
01:22:30,131 --> 01:22:31,279
new building which will be   further

3454
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:32,103
further supported by a   feasibility

3455
01:22:32,103 --> 01:22:32,600
feasibility study we are   concluding

3456
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,652
concluding in 2026.

3457
01:22:35,652 --> 01:22:37,301
there will be recommendations   coming to

3458
01:22:37,301 --> 01:22:41,181
coming to council once that   study is

3459
01:22:41,181 --> 01:22:41,240
study is concluded.

3460
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:48,512
in summary the overall 2026   budget

3461
01:22:48,512 --> 01:22:49,708
budget for sun parlor home net   recoveries

3462
01:22:49,708 --> 01:22:51,703
recoveries totals around   14 million.

3463
01:22:51,703 --> 01:22:51,703
14 million.

3464
01:22:51,703 --> 01:22:53,906
this is a 0 percent increase   over the

3465
01:22:53,906 --> 01:22:55,817
over the 2025 budget which is   reflective

3466
01:22:55,817 --> 01:22:55,935
reflective of ministry funding   enhancements

3467
01:22:55,935 --> 01:23:01,273
enhancements and leveraging   provincially

3468
01:23:01,273 --> 01:23:02,539
provincially funded grants on   investments

3469
01:23:02,539 --> 01:23:03,750
investments to enhance or   quality of

3470
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:04,143
quality of care as and when they   become

3471
01:23:04,143 --> 01:23:04,241
become available.

3472
01:23:04,241 --> 01:23:10,994
as we look forward to 2026 and

3473
01:23:10,994 --> 01:23:11,321
the initiatives

3474
01:23:11,321 --> 01:23:12,084
the initiatives outlined on the   slide

3475
01:23:12,084 --> 01:23:15,528
slide here before you we will

3476
01:23:15,528 --> 01:23:15,587
see there's a

3477
01:23:15,587 --> 01:23:16,362
see there's a few key priorities

3478
01:23:16,362 --> 01:23:16,786
that ensure we maintain building

3479
01:23:16,786 --> 01:23:16,786
that ensure we maintain building

3480
01:23:16,786 --> 01:23:16,846
standards

3481
01:23:16,846 --> 01:23:21,404
standards, regulations and   enhanced functionality

3482
01:23:21,404 --> 01:23:25,502
enhanced functionality across

3483
01:23:25,502 --> 01:23:25,561
very old home.

3484
01:23:25,561 --> 01:23:25,561
very old home.

3485
01:23:25,561 --> 01:23:28,949
our focus is on the quality of

3486
01:23:28,949 --> 01:23:29,930
life for

3487
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:31,246
life for residents we are   surveying while maintaining that
Aging

3488
01:23:31,246 --> 01:23:31,246
life for residents we are   surveying while maintaining that
Aging

3489
01:23:31,246 --> 01:23:31,305
aging infrastructure.

3490
01:23:31,305 --> 01:23:35,947
with that I will conclude and   welcome

3491
01:23:35,947 --> 01:23:38,369
welcome any questions or   comments from council.

3492
01:23:38,369 --> 01:23:38,369
comments from council.

3493
01:23:38,369 --> 01:23:39,967
thank you.

3494
01:23:39,967 --> 01:23:43,479
>> thank you, well done.

3495
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:43,715
we will start with you   councillor

3496
01:23:43,715 --> 01:23:45,839
councillor rogers.  >> thank

3497
01:23:45,839 --> 01:23:47,830
>> thank you and through you I   can tell

3498
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:50,335
can tell you we appreciate the   leadership

3499
01:23:50,335 --> 01:23:51,548
leadership and I think were   headed in the

3500
01:23:51,548 --> 01:23:53,476
headed in the right direction

3501
01:23:53,476 --> 01:23:53,535
so   thank

3502
01:23:53,535 --> 01:23:53,740
thank you for that.

3503
01:23:53,740 --> 01:23:56,387
I know we have a feasibility   study coming.

3504
01:23:56,387 --> 01:23:56,387
study coming.

3505
01:23:56,387 --> 01:23:59,122
big elephant in the room with   this building

3506
01:23:59,122 --> 01:24:00,297
this building and a lifecycle

3507
01:24:00,297 --> 01:24:00,355
decision to

3508
01:24:00,355 --> 01:24:01,241
decision to make.  Maybe a

3509
01:24:01,241 --> 01:24:02,830
maybe a couple of questions.

3510
01:24:02,830 --> 01:24:05,022
one is do we have any idea how   much it

3511
01:24:05,022 --> 01:24:08,027
much it costs to renovate per   room

3512
01:24:08,027 --> 01:24:08,027
room?

3513
01:24:08,027 --> 01:24:16,490
>> through you the last item we   have

3514
01:24:16,490 --> 01:24:18,901
have on that I believe was grey   county

3515
01:24:18,901 --> 01:24:18,901
county.  That

3516
01:24:18,901 --> 01:24:21,041
that was constructed a couple

3517
01:24:21,041 --> 01:24:21,101
of   years ago

3518
01:24:21,101 --> 01:24:21,101
years ago.  I

3519
01:24:21,101 --> 01:24:22,971
I believe now.  That was

3520
01:24:22,971 --> 01:24:27,133
that was $500,000 per bed.  >> big number

3521
01:24:27,133 --> 01:24:27,133
>> big number.

3522
01:24:27,133 --> 01:24:32,075
and just in terms of lifecycle   of the

3523
01:24:32,075 --> 01:24:32,194
of the whole facility do we have

3524
01:24:32,194 --> 01:24:32,253
any

3525
01:24:32,253 --> 01:24:36,279
any idea what that date is?

3526
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:36,279
approximately.

3527
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:45,903
won't hold you in stone.  >> through

3528
01:24:45,903 --> 01:24:48,305
>> through you, warden we have a

3529
01:24:48,305 --> 01:24:48,428
50 year replacement cycle on

3530
01:24:48,428 --> 01:24:48,487
50 year replacement cycle on the

3531
01:24:48,487 --> 01:24:50,009
building

3532
01:24:50,009 --> 01:24:50,009
building.  However

3533
01:24:50,009 --> 01:24:53,143
however it's a little unique   when we

3534
01:24:53,143 --> 01:24:54,341
when we have these standards we   have

3535
01:24:54,341 --> 01:24:55,104
have to meet as well.

3536
01:24:55,104 --> 01:24:58,282
it's not just the building, it's   meeting

3537
01:24:58,282 --> 01:24:59,869
meeting up to these different

3538
01:24:59,869 --> 01:24:59,869
standards

3539
01:24:59,869 --> 01:25:00,420
standards typically.

3540
01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:00,870
so just have to keep that in   mind as

3541
01:25:00,870 --> 01:25:04,523
mind as well.  >> thank

3542
01:25:04,523 --> 01:25:04,756
>> thank you and final question

3543
01:25:04,756 --> 01:25:05,287
,   how

3544
01:25:05,287 --> 01:25:07,000
how much do we have in the bank

3545
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,569
allocated towards facility total
Facility

3546
01:25:09,569 --> 01:25:09,569
allocated towards facility total
Facility

3547
01:25:09,569 --> 01:25:09,628
facility replacement?

3548
01:25:09,628 --> 01:25:17,339
>> through you, ward in.

3549
01:25:17,339 --> 01:25:19,037
that's incorporated into our   capital.

3550
01:25:19,037 --> 01:25:19,037
capital.

3551
01:25:19,037 --> 01:25:21,281
and capitol we have it split out

3552
01:25:21,281 --> 01:25:21,658
in

3553
01:25:21,658 --> 01:25:24,121
in there and I know we've been   saving as much

3554
01:25:24,121 --> 01:25:25,490
saving as much as we can and I

3555
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:26,031
do

3556
01:25:26,031 --> 01:25:27,788
do think we have -- I believe

3557
01:25:27,788 --> 01:25:27,847
it's about

3558
01:25:27,847 --> 01:25:30,955
it's about 30 million saved.  However I

3559
01:25:30,955 --> 01:25:31,934
however I will get back to you   to

3560
01:25:31,934 --> 01:25:35,046
to confirm that but I do know

3561
01:25:35,046 --> 01:25:35,105
anytime we

3562
01:25:35,105 --> 01:25:36,468
anytime we can, we're talking

3563
01:25:36,468 --> 01:25:36,527
a   way money

3564
01:25:36,527 --> 01:25:37,953
way money there and knowing in   the

3565
01:25:37,953 --> 01:25:38,231
the future we are going to do   something

3566
01:25:38,231 --> 01:25:38,231
something.

3567
01:25:38,231 --> 01:25:43,537
>> thank you and final one now   that

3568
01:25:43,537 --> 01:25:44,137
that big number in the future,

3569
01:25:44,137 --> 01:25:44,255
what is it

3570
01:25:44,255 --> 01:25:44,255
what is it?

3571
01:25:44,255 --> 01:25:51,089
won't hold you to it but an   estimate

3572
01:25:51,089 --> 01:25:51,751
estimate.  We have

3573
01:25:51,751 --> 01:25:52,840
we have to save $100 million for   a new hospital

3574
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:52,840
a new hospital.

3575
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,124
it's a billion-dollar hospital a   couple of

3576
01:25:56,124 --> 01:25:56,185
couple of years ago.

3577
01:25:56,185 --> 01:26:02,920
>> I will speak and not provide

3578
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,082
a

3579
01:26:03,082 --> 01:26:04,713
a number with the feasibility

3580
01:26:04,713 --> 01:26:04,713
study

3581
01:26:04,713 --> 01:26:07,378
study being done to give us the   numbers, to

3582
01:26:07,378 --> 01:26:09,940
numbers, to give council a good   indicator of what that

3583
01:26:09,940 --> 01:26:09,999
indicator of what that will look   like

3584
01:26:09,999 --> 01:26:15,091
like but on that, natasha will   add

3585
01:26:15,091 --> 01:26:15,750
add.  >> thank

3586
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:16,024
>> thank you.

3587
01:26:16,024 --> 01:26:17,846
one other piece I would -- a   slight peace of

3588
01:26:17,846 --> 01:26:21,233
slight peace of mind if I may is   the ministry supplemental

3589
01:26:21,233 --> 01:26:22,698
the ministry supplemental   support

3590
01:26:22,698 --> 01:26:24,180
support for rebuilds and   redevelopments

3591
01:26:24,180 --> 01:26:26,148
redevelopments, it's at an   all-time

3592
01:26:26,148 --> 01:26:26,213
all-time high.

3593
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:30,155
so I guess what I might offer is   the

3594
01:26:30,155 --> 01:26:33,039
the 85 percent support from the   ministry

3595
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:37,686
ministry may give us a bit of

3596
01:26:37,686 --> 01:26:37,746
a   competitive

3597
01:26:37,746 --> 01:26:38,582
competitive advantage over what   municipal partners

3598
01:26:38,582 --> 01:26:40,211
municipal partners would exceed.

3599
01:26:40,211 --> 01:26:40,211


3600
01:26:40,211 --> 01:26:43,768
while we do not have the   specifics

3601
01:26:43,768 --> 01:26:44,590
specifics here today I think   it's an opportune

3602
01:26:44,590 --> 01:26:49,361
it's an opportune time to be   having these conversations

3603
01:26:49,361 --> 01:26:50,065
having these conversations and

3604
01:26:50,065 --> 01:26:50,569
certainly appreciated

3605
01:26:50,569 --> 01:26:51,659
certainly appreciated we don't   have specifics

3606
01:26:51,659 --> 01:26:53,621
have specifics here but we will   come back with those

3607
01:26:53,621 --> 01:26:53,680
come back with those.  >>

3608
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,125
>> I appreciated and I'm   definitely

3609
01:26:57,125 --> 01:26:57,947
definitely jumping the gun soy   assume that study

3610
01:26:57,947 --> 01:26:59,637
assume that study again will   provide

3611
01:26:59,637 --> 01:27:02,961
provide the number of beds as   well as look

3612
01:27:02,961 --> 01:27:03,020
well as look at possible   expansion as

3613
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:03,079
expansion as well.

3614
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:10,169
>> I think a key component of   the feasibility

3615
01:27:10,169 --> 01:27:10,287
the feasibility study looks at   population

3616
01:27:10,287 --> 01:27:13,880
population growth and how we   compared

3617
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:14,928
compared to the broader windsor   essex community for

3618
01:27:14,928 --> 01:27:14,987
essex community for sure.  >>

3619
01:27:14,987 --> 01:27:16,500
>> thank you.

3620
01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:16,996
>> anyone else?

3621
01:27:16,996 --> 01:27:28,854
there is a recommendation for

3622
01:27:28,854 --> 01:27:28,854
the

3623
01:27:28,854 --> 01:27:30,618
the proposed 2026 sun parlor   budget

3624
01:27:30,618 --> 01:27:32,153
budget be received and that the   2026 budget

3625
01:27:32,153 --> 01:27:34,661
2026 budget estimates be   received

3626
01:27:34,661 --> 01:27:37,122
received or received and   approved

3627
01:27:37,122 --> 01:27:37,561
approved.  Looking to council for

3628
01:27:37,561 --> 01:27:37,621
looking to council for your   wishes

3629
01:27:37,621 --> 01:27:37,621
wishes.

3630
01:27:37,621 --> 01:27:42,369
councillor prove.  Received and approved

3631
01:27:42,369 --> 01:27:42,369
received and approved?

3632
01:27:42,369 --> 01:27:46,596
>> yes, please.  >>

3633
01:27:46,596 --> 01:27:46,655
>> thank you.

3634
01:27:46,655 --> 01:27:54,629
seconded by councillor deyong.

3635
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:54,629


3636
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:55,670
any discussion.

3637
01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:56,380
I will ask you to vote   electronically

3638
01:27:56,380 --> 01:28:09,947
electronically, please.

3639
01:28:09,947 --> 01:28:23,747
and that's carried.

3640
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:25,332
thank you.

3641
01:28:25,332 --> 01:28:29,549
and that's carried.  I did

3642
01:28:29,549 --> 01:28:29,608
I did say that?

3643
01:28:29,608 --> 01:28:36,282
it's 10:27 so I would ask for a

3644
01:28:36,282 --> 01:28:37,268
motion to

3645
01:28:37,268 --> 01:28:38,359
motion to recess for 15 minute

3646
01:28:38,359 --> 01:28:38,418
break.

3647
01:28:38,418 --> 01:28:38,418
break.

3648
01:28:38,418 --> 01:28:41,555
that motion is essex county   councillor recess

3649
01:28:41,555 --> 01:28:44,827
councillor recess until -- let's   just make

3650
01:28:44,827 --> 01:28:50,232
just make it 10:45.

3651
01:28:50,232 --> 01:28:53,639
moved by councillor meloche,   seconded

3652
01:28:53,639 --> 01:28:54,416
seconded by councillor akpata.

3653
01:28:54,416 --> 01:28:54,653
all in favour of recess?

3654
01:28:54,653 --> 01:28:57,752
that's carried.

3655
01:28:57,752 --> 01:28:59,329
thank you.

3656
01:28:59,329 --> 01:28:59,329


3657
01:28:59,329 --> 01:28:59,329


3658
01:28:59,329 --> 01:28:59,329


3659
01:28:59,329 --> 01:29:19,359


3660
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:19,359


3661
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:19,359


3662
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:19,359


3663
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:19,359


3664
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:19,359


3665
01:29:19,359 --> 01:47:32,058
>> are 15 minutes have passed   rather quickly

3666
01:47:32,058 --> 01:47:33,392
rather quickly so we're ready to

3667
01:47:33,392 --> 01:47:34,550
resume

3668
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:34,923
resume our budget deliberations.  Next

3669
01:47:34,923 --> 01:47:40,775
next up we have our chief of   essex windsor

3670
01:47:40,775 --> 01:47:42,083
essex windsor emergency medical   services here to provide

3671
01:47:42,083 --> 01:47:42,142
services here to provide   presentation

3672
01:47:42,142 --> 01:47:46,739
presentation regarding the ems

3673
01:47:46,739 --> 01:47:47,356
2026 budget

3674
01:47:47,356 --> 01:47:47,356
2026 budget.

3675
01:47:47,356 --> 01:47:49,756
just and, you are up.  >> good

3676
01:47:49,756 --> 01:47:50,737
>> good morning and thank you.

3677
01:47:50,737 --> 01:47:50,737


3678
01:47:50,737 --> 01:47:53,887
I'm pleased to present the   proposed

3679
01:47:53,887 --> 01:47:55,372
proposed 2026 ems departmental   budget

3680
01:47:55,372 --> 01:47:57,998
budget for consideration.  The account --

3681
01:47:57,998 --> 01:48:02,391
the account -- is present...  As well as

3682
01:48:02,391 --> 01:48:02,450
as well as speak to challenges   and

3683
01:48:02,450 --> 01:48:05,196
and issued during development

3684
01:48:05,196 --> 01:48:05,255
of   the

3685
01:48:05,255 --> 01:48:05,314
the 2026 budget.

3686
01:48:05,314 --> 01:48:11,388
presenting the budget and two   components

3687
01:48:11,388 --> 01:48:13,150
components through the funding   of

3688
01:48:13,150 --> 01:48:14,570
of each aspect.  Versus medical services and

3689
01:48:14,570 --> 01:48:14,628
versus medical services and the

3690
01:48:14,628 --> 01:48:17,541
second for

3691
01:48:17,541 --> 01:48:18,358
second for volunteer care.  For

3692
01:48:18,358 --> 01:48:19,735
for clarity emergency management

3693
01:48:19,735 --> 01:48:20,113
has

3694
01:48:20,113 --> 01:48:20,390
has been moved under -- over   under the leadership

3695
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:23,685
under the leadership of health   and safety

3696
01:48:23,685 --> 01:48:25,278
and safety in human resources...

3697
01:48:25,278 --> 01:48:25,278


3698
01:48:25,278 --> 01:48:30,279
the chart on the screen is an   overall total of

3699
01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:31,857
overall total of expenditures

3700
01:48:31,857 --> 01:48:31,857
for

3701
01:48:31,857 --> 01:48:36,185
for -- I will address each   section of the budget separately

3702
01:48:36,185 --> 01:48:36,185
section of the budget separately

3703
01:48:36,185 --> 01:48:36,737
  separately.
In developing

3704
01:48:36,737 --> 01:48:36,737
  separately.
In developing

3705
01:48:36,737 --> 01:48:38,931
in developing the 2026 budget we

3706
01:48:38,931 --> 01:48:40,036
reviewed the

3707
01:48:40,036 --> 01:48:40,369
reviewed the current upcoming   priorities

3708
01:48:40,369 --> 01:48:41,735
priorities with a primary focus

3709
01:48:41,735 --> 01:48:42,162
on

3710
01:48:42,162 --> 01:48:43,760
on preparing for future growth,   continuous quality improvement

3711
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:43,760
continuous quality improvement

3712
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:43,820
,   innovation

3713
01:48:43,820 --> 01:48:46,494
innovation and response times.

3714
01:48:46,494 --> 01:48:46,494


3715
01:48:46,494 --> 01:48:50,428
with that we will begin with the   emergency

3716
01:48:50,428 --> 01:48:52,037
emergency medical services   budget

3717
01:48:52,037 --> 01:48:52,037
budget.

3718
01:48:52,037 --> 01:48:55,824
the proposed budget is 4.37   4.37 percent

3719
01:48:55,824 --> 01:48:55,884
4.37 percent increase over the

3720
01:48:55,884 --> 01:48:57,458
2025 budget

3721
01:48:57,458 --> 01:49:00,978
2025 budget as it relates to   expenditures

3722
01:49:00,978 --> 01:49:01,039
expenditures on the county   responsibility

3723
01:49:01,039 --> 01:49:01,133
responsibility increases...

3724
01:49:01,133 --> 01:49:07,146
factors for the proposed budget

3725
01:49:07,146 --> 01:49:07,428
are eight paramedics

3726
01:49:07,428 --> 01:49:07,695
are eight paramedics including

3727
01:49:07,695 --> 01:49:08,417
12 hour shifts

3728
01:49:08,417 --> 01:49:10,538
12 hour shifts starting in june

3729
01:49:10,538 --> 01:49:11,363
  june 2026.

3730
01:49:11,363 --> 01:49:11,363
june 2026.

3731
01:49:11,363 --> 01:49:14,273
one manager of physical   resources

3732
01:49:14,273 --> 01:49:14,997
resources to support   infrastructure

3733
01:49:14,997 --> 01:49:15,924
infrastructure growth.  Anticipated

3734
01:49:15,924 --> 01:49:17,778
anticipated asset management   replacement

3735
01:49:17,778 --> 01:49:18,551
replacement of vehicles.

3736
01:49:18,551 --> 01:49:19,320
improving the quality work we're

3737
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:19,601
doing in planning for the

3738
01:49:19,601 --> 01:49:19,660
doing in planning for the future

3739
01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:19,660
  future.

3740
01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:19,660
future.

3741
01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:24,410
our funding is based on 50   50 percent

3742
01:49:24,410 --> 01:49:25,624
50 percent of the prior year's

3743
01:49:25,624 --> 01:49:25,942
budget

3744
01:49:25,942 --> 01:49:25,942
budget.

3745
01:49:25,942 --> 01:49:27,742
50 percent funded by the   ministry

3746
01:49:27,742 --> 01:49:29,007
ministry of health and remaining

3747
01:49:29,007 --> 01:49:30,325
50 percent divided within the
Local

3748
01:49:30,325 --> 01:49:30,325
50 percent divided within the
Local

3749
01:49:30,325 --> 01:49:33,111
local municipal partners based

3750
01:49:33,111 --> 01:49:33,608
on weighted assessment

3751
01:49:33,608 --> 01:49:33,608
on weighted assessment.

3752
01:49:33,608 --> 01:49:35,299
it's estimated the weighted   assessment

3753
01:49:35,299 --> 01:49:37,149
assessment will continue to   increase

3754
01:49:37,149 --> 01:49:37,972
increase the county's   responsibility

3755
01:49:37,972 --> 01:49:38,468
responsibility is development   and growth continues to

3756
01:49:38,468 --> 01:49:38,569
and growth continues to rise.

3757
01:49:38,569 --> 01:49:44,988
every year we conducted   disciplinary

3758
01:49:44,988 --> 01:49:46,639
disciplinary budget to identify   opportunities

3759
01:49:46,639 --> 01:49:48,939
opportunities to reduce cost,   reallocate

3760
01:49:48,939 --> 01:49:50,028
reallocate resources more   effectively

3761
01:49:50,028 --> 01:49:51,550
effectively and reinvest in   areas that

3762
01:49:51,550 --> 01:49:53,195
areas that deliver the greatest

3763
01:49:53,195 --> 01:49:54,395
impact for operations

3764
01:49:54,395 --> 01:49:54,395
impact for operations.  We

3765
01:49:54,395 --> 01:49:56,815
we continue to advocate for   system-level

3766
01:49:56,815 --> 01:49:57,350
system-level changes that reduce   demand on

3767
01:49:57,350 --> 01:50:02,382
demand on 911 in the first place  place.

3768
01:50:02,382 --> 01:50:02,382
place.

3769
01:50:02,382 --> 01:50:04,022
we actively pursue innovative   opportunities

3770
01:50:04,022 --> 01:50:05,234
opportunities from new   technologies

3771
01:50:05,234 --> 01:50:06,928
technologies to alternative care

3772
01:50:06,928 --> 01:50:07,373
pathways

3773
01:50:07,373 --> 01:50:07,822
pathways to deliver better   patient outcomes

3774
01:50:07,822 --> 01:50:07,979
patient outcomes while   delivering

3775
01:50:07,979 --> 01:50:12,374
delivering cost and reducing   pressure to front-line

3776
01:50:12,374 --> 01:50:13,293
pressure to front-line resources

3777
01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,293
  resources.
The

3778
01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,293
  resources.
The

3779
01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:15,998
the main system impact on our   services call volumes.

3780
01:50:15,998 --> 01:50:15,998
services call volumes.

3781
01:50:15,998 --> 01:50:19,172
you can see in the chart there's   a

3782
01:50:19,172 --> 01:50:20,150
a couple projection lines based

3783
01:50:20,150 --> 01:50:20,596
on percentage

3784
01:50:20,596 --> 01:50:21,089
on percentage increases.

3785
01:50:21,089 --> 01:50:24,345
for 2025 looking at 1.5 to 2   2 percent increase

3786
01:50:24,345 --> 01:50:24,996
2 percent increase in responses   we

3787
01:50:24,996 --> 01:50:27,176
we will no better when the years

3788
01:50:27,176 --> 01:50:27,338
concluded

3789
01:50:27,338 --> 01:50:27,338
concluded.

3790
01:50:27,338 --> 01:50:29,106
on the turkey only projection

3791
01:50:29,106 --> 01:50:29,106
line

3792
01:50:29,106 --> 01:50:30,371
line is 4 percent and 5 percent.  I

3793
01:50:30,371 --> 01:50:33,229
I want to make a note that these   slides

3794
01:50:33,229 --> 01:50:34,864
slides in september where we   were forecasting 4.3

3795
01:50:34,864 --> 01:50:36,472
were forecasting 4.3 percent   increase

3796
01:50:36,472 --> 01:50:36,472
increase.  We

3797
01:50:36,472 --> 01:50:38,876
we reviewed our numbers on with

3798
01:50:38,876 --> 01:50:39,524
q4

3799
01:50:39,524 --> 01:50:40,535
q4 numbers being slightly lower

3800
01:50:40,535 --> 01:50:41,133
than previous

3801
01:50:41,133 --> 01:50:42,337
than previous at this moment   will be

3802
01:50:42,337 --> 01:50:43,541
will be under the master plan   projection

3803
01:50:43,541 --> 01:50:45,890
projection a 4.5 percent for   2025.

3804
01:50:45,890 --> 01:50:45,890
2025.

3805
01:50:45,890 --> 01:50:49,340
staffing levels we continue to   focus

3806
01:50:49,340 --> 01:50:50,545
focus on improving working   conditions

3807
01:50:50,545 --> 01:50:51,354
conditions to ensure those were

3808
01:50:51,354 --> 01:50:51,472
working

3809
01:50:51,472 --> 01:50:54,315
working here want to stay here.

3810
01:50:54,315 --> 01:50:54,315


3811
01:50:54,315 --> 01:50:55,358
and engage in ongoing   recruitment

3812
01:50:55,358 --> 01:50:56,941
recruitment efforts locally and

3813
01:50:56,941 --> 01:50:57,538
across the

3814
01:50:57,538 --> 01:50:57,757
across the province for   individuals interested

3815
01:50:57,757 --> 01:50:59,115
individuals interested in coming

3816
01:50:59,115 --> 01:50:59,234
to work for essex

3817
01:50:59,234 --> 01:50:59,351
to work for essex windsor ems.

3818
01:50:59,351 --> 01:50:59,351


3819
01:50:59,351 --> 01:51:04,987
ambulance offload delays are   occurring

3820
01:51:04,987 --> 01:51:05,982
occurring but magnitude has been   reduced compared

3821
01:51:05,982 --> 01:51:06,410
reduced compared to previous   years

3822
01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:07,943
years and I'm happy to tell you   for

3823
01:51:07,943 --> 01:51:09,146
for the month of september and   october

3824
01:51:09,146 --> 01:51:11,225
october and november of this   year

3825
01:51:11,225 --> 01:51:12,758
year, were down 32 percent   compared

3826
01:51:12,758 --> 01:51:14,405
compared to the same period of

3827
01:51:14,405 --> 01:51:14,676
time

3828
01:51:14,676 --> 01:51:15,884
time last year and were seeing

3829
01:51:15,884 --> 01:51:16,368
some movement

3830
01:51:16,368 --> 01:51:16,368
some movement.

3831
01:51:16,368 --> 01:51:19,545
that's 1267 staff ambulance   hours back on her

3832
01:51:19,545 --> 01:51:21,120
hours back on her street.

3833
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:27,353
two new 12 hour shifts in the

3834
01:51:27,353 --> 01:51:27,413
2026 budget

3835
01:51:27,413 --> 01:51:28,459
2026 budget through prebudget

3836
01:51:28,459 --> 01:51:28,519
approval the

3837
01:51:28,519 --> 01:51:28,725
approval the two new ambulances

3838
01:51:28,725 --> 01:51:29,330
have

3839
01:51:29,330 --> 01:51:31,733
have been ordered and within the

3840
01:51:31,733 --> 01:51:32,557
budget eight paramedics

3841
01:51:32,557 --> 01:51:33,428
budget eight paramedics   requested the operationalize

3842
01:51:33,428 --> 01:51:33,699
requested the operationalize let

3843
01:51:33,699 --> 01:51:34,424
him as you recall from director

3844
01:51:34,424 --> 01:51:34,424
him as you recall from director

3845
01:51:34,424 --> 01:51:34,482
of

3846
01:51:34,482 --> 01:51:37,333
of hr reporting to council on   october 15th

3847
01:51:37,333 --> 01:51:40,931
october 15th eight paramedics

3848
01:51:40,931 --> 01:51:40,931
were

3849
01:51:40,931 --> 01:51:42,530
were being requested and   initially we

3850
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:44,603
initially we asked for four   primary

3851
01:51:44,603 --> 01:51:45,583
primary care and four advanced

3852
01:51:45,583 --> 01:51:45,800
care paramedics

3853
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:45,800
care paramedics.

3854
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,366
since then we had discussions

3855
01:51:48,366 --> 01:51:48,366
with

3856
01:51:48,366 --> 01:51:49,419
with the 2974 executive and   reversed a

3857
01:51:49,419 --> 01:51:52,810
reversed a request for the four   acp to convert them

3858
01:51:52,810 --> 01:51:52,929
acp to convert them in to pcp.  A total

3859
01:51:52,929 --> 01:51:57,838
a total of 12 -- the reason for   this is currently

3860
01:51:57,838 --> 01:52:00,458
this is currently we have open   spots on

3861
01:52:00,458 --> 01:52:02,916
spots on or scheduled without

3862
01:52:02,916 --> 01:52:02,916
working

3863
01:52:02,916 --> 01:52:05,180
working that spot it creates a

3864
01:52:05,180 --> 01:52:05,339
temporary

3865
01:52:05,339 --> 01:52:07,363
temporary full-time position   which is unfavourable

3866
01:52:07,363 --> 01:52:08,576
which is unfavourable for   part-time staff

3867
01:52:08,576 --> 01:52:10,277
part-time staff looking to go

3868
01:52:10,277 --> 01:52:10,277
permanent

3869
01:52:10,277 --> 01:52:10,722
permanent full-time.  Understanding

3870
01:52:10,722 --> 01:52:12,904
understanding the paramedic   positions

3871
01:52:12,904 --> 01:52:13,681
positions are likely required

3872
01:52:13,681 --> 01:52:13,741
in   the foreseeable

3873
01:52:13,741 --> 01:52:15,597
the foreseeable future will   continue to work

3874
01:52:15,597 --> 01:52:16,310
continue to work with the union

3875
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:16,810
executive to

3876
01:52:16,810 --> 01:52:16,869
executive to better strategize

3877
01:52:16,869 --> 01:52:17,085
on

3878
01:52:17,085 --> 01:52:18,512
on how to fill these spots and

3879
01:52:18,512 --> 01:52:19,175
if

3880
01:52:19,175 --> 01:52:20,549
if there's a time when   individuals

3881
01:52:20,549 --> 01:52:21,897
individuals within the service

3882
01:52:21,897 --> 01:52:22,177
are qualified

3883
01:52:22,177 --> 01:52:22,902
are qualified as advanced care   paramedics we looked --

3884
01:52:22,902 --> 01:52:24,525
paramedics we looked -- work to

3885
01:52:24,525 --> 01:52:27,696
--

3886
01:52:27,696 --> 01:52:27,815
-- through processes allocating   percentage of her

3887
01:52:27,815 --> 01:52:27,815
percentage of her...

3888
01:52:27,815 --> 01:52:35,557
a manager fiscal resource   position included beginning

3889
01:52:35,557 --> 01:52:36,000
position included beginning of   the

3890
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,085
the second quarter of 2026 which   will support oversight

3891
01:52:38,085 --> 01:52:39,556
will support oversight   investment

3892
01:52:39,556 --> 01:52:42,149
investment facilities and   equipment operations

3893
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:43,036
equipment operations during   timely

3894
01:52:43,036 --> 01:52:45,214
timely efficient and accountable

3895
01:52:45,214 --> 01:52:45,274
project

3896
01:52:45,274 --> 01:52:47,186
project execution by focusing on

3897
01:52:47,186 --> 01:52:47,406
process management

3898
01:52:47,406 --> 01:52:48,166
process management, compliance

3899
01:52:48,166 --> 01:52:48,928
and preventative

3900
01:52:48,928 --> 01:52:49,523
and preventative maintenance to

3901
01:52:49,523 --> 01:52:51,127
reduce bottlenecks

3902
01:52:51,127 --> 01:52:52,000
reduce bottlenecks, strengthen   infrastructure

3903
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:52,981
infrastructure readiness and   address findings

3904
01:52:52,981 --> 01:52:55,605
address findings from the 2024   ministry review.
In line

3905
01:52:55,605 --> 01:52:55,605
address findings from the 2024   ministry review.
In line

3906
01:52:55,605 --> 01:52:59,218
in line with the 2024 master   plan refresh

3907
01:52:59,218 --> 01:53:00,970
plan refresh the role will help

3908
01:53:00,970 --> 01:53:01,398
the service

3909
01:53:01,398 --> 01:53:02,173
the service manager growing   operational

3910
01:53:02,173 --> 01:53:02,232
operational complexity and   support future

3911
01:53:02,232 --> 01:53:02,323
support future initiatives.

3912
01:53:02,323 --> 01:53:08,961
second human capital investment   as additional

3913
01:53:08,961 --> 01:53:10,326
as additional services provided

3914
01:53:10,326 --> 01:53:10,825
by human

3915
01:53:10,825 --> 01:53:12,509
by human resources generalist

3916
01:53:12,509 --> 01:53:12,569
within human resources to

3917
01:53:12,569 --> 01:53:13,301
within human resources to be   shared

3918
01:53:13,301 --> 01:53:14,715
shared with a long-term care   home

3919
01:53:14,715 --> 01:53:14,715
home.

3920
01:53:14,715 --> 01:53:17,550
the position will provide   essential hr

3921
01:53:17,550 --> 01:53:19,149
essential hr support to essex

3922
01:53:19,149 --> 01:53:19,208
windsor ems

3923
01:53:19,208 --> 01:53:21,187
windsor ems by managing   recruitment

3924
01:53:21,187 --> 01:53:22,924
recruitment, onboarding and   compliance

3925
01:53:22,924 --> 01:53:25,016
compliance processes ensuring   timely

3926
01:53:25,016 --> 01:53:26,218
timely hiring and reducing risk   through certifications

3927
01:53:26,218 --> 01:53:28,400
through certifications on   regulatory

3928
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,171
regulatory breaches.  Delivering front-line

3929
01:53:29,171 --> 01:53:29,502
delivering front-line guidance   to supervisors and

3930
01:53:29,502 --> 01:53:31,098
to supervisors and managers on

3931
01:53:31,098 --> 01:53:33,492
investigations

3932
01:53:33,492 --> 01:53:33,993
investigations and employee   accommodations

3933
01:53:33,993 --> 01:53:34,052
accommodations while   strengthening return to

3934
01:53:34,052 --> 01:53:37,817
strengthening return to work   programs to

3935
01:53:37,817 --> 01:53:38,598
programs to improve both risk   management

3936
01:53:38,598 --> 01:53:40,335
management and staff experience

3937
01:53:40,335 --> 01:53:42,197
by taking on these additional
Responsibilities

3938
01:53:42,197 --> 01:53:42,197
by taking on these additional
Responsibilities

3939
01:53:42,197 --> 01:53:43,682
responsibilities the role will   free

3940
01:53:43,682 --> 01:53:45,955
free up the hr management focus

3941
01:53:45,955 --> 01:53:46,328
on

3942
01:53:46,328 --> 01:53:47,485
on strategic initiatives labour   relations and long-term
Workforce

3943
01:53:47,485 --> 01:53:47,485
on strategic initiatives labour   relations and long-term
Workforce

3944
01:53:47,485 --> 01:53:47,544
workforce planning.

3945
01:53:47,544 --> 01:53:52,704
some smaller budgetary impact

3946
01:53:52,704 --> 01:53:52,764
you will notice maintenance

3947
01:53:52,764 --> 01:53:53,468
you will notice maintenance on

3948
01:53:53,468 --> 01:53:53,963
technical support is

3949
01:53:53,963 --> 01:53:55,717
technical support is being   requested

3950
01:53:55,717 --> 01:53:56,591
requested for the installation

3951
01:53:56,591 --> 01:53:56,816
of ambulances

3952
01:53:56,816 --> 01:53:57,811
of ambulances.  The transition

3953
01:53:57,811 --> 01:53:59,550
the transition to ipads will   save money

3954
01:53:59,550 --> 01:53:59,769
save money and replacement cost   is the

3955
01:53:59,769 --> 01:54:03,677
is the previous technology   laptops

3956
01:54:03,677 --> 01:54:04,604
laptops we're -- expensive.

3957
01:54:04,604 --> 01:54:06,957
the transition allows us to   leverage

3958
01:54:06,957 --> 01:54:08,697
leverage more robust and   accurate

3959
01:54:08,697 --> 01:54:09,474
accurate mapping software.

3960
01:54:09,474 --> 01:54:09,969
we've included slight budget   line

3961
01:54:09,969 --> 01:54:14,120
line increases the support   wellness initiatives

3962
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:15,976
wellness initiatives, public   relations and

3963
01:54:15,976 --> 01:54:17,406
relations and stayton -- station   management

3964
01:54:17,406 --> 01:54:18,107
management and repairs.

3965
01:54:18,107 --> 01:54:21,786
in 2026 we will plates seven   ambulances

3966
01:54:21,786 --> 01:54:23,562
ambulances, one logistics   vehicle and

3967
01:54:23,562 --> 01:54:23,782
vehicle and one administrative   vehicle additionally

3968
01:54:23,782 --> 01:54:25,520
vehicle additionally as part of   the

3969
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,930
the capital plan ems will   continue

3970
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:29,361
continue to move forward with   the facilities

3971
01:54:29,361 --> 01:54:30,556
the facilities project while our   team manages

3972
01:54:30,556 --> 01:54:32,907
team manages the work funding

3973
01:54:32,907 --> 01:54:32,967
for the capital projects

3974
01:54:32,967 --> 01:54:33,888
for the capital projects is   reflected

3975
01:54:33,888 --> 01:54:35,150
reflected in the finance budget

3976
01:54:35,150 --> 01:54:35,478
as the county owns the

3977
01:54:35,478 --> 01:54:35,537
as the county owns the assets.

3978
01:54:35,537 --> 01:54:35,537


3979
01:54:35,537 --> 01:54:40,952
I will switch over to community   paramedics

3980
01:54:40,952 --> 01:54:41,608
paramedics and for long-term   care

3981
01:54:41,608 --> 01:54:41,608
care.

3982
01:54:41,608 --> 01:54:43,813
it's funded 100 percent by the   ministry of

3983
01:54:43,813 --> 01:54:45,939
ministry of long-term care and

3984
01:54:45,939 --> 01:54:46,268
as

3985
01:54:46,268 --> 01:54:47,467
as a component of integrated   healthcare

3986
01:54:47,467 --> 01:54:48,620
healthcare program.  New this year

3987
01:54:48,620 --> 01:54:48,680
new this year the ministry of   long-term care

3988
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,787
long-term care and outs funding   would be

3989
01:54:51,787 --> 01:54:53,374
would be made permanent and   essex

3990
01:54:53,374 --> 01:54:55,669
essex awaiting on the details

3991
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:55,729
of   the allocation

3992
01:54:55,729 --> 01:54:57,535
the allocation before we proceed  proceed.

3993
01:54:57,535 --> 01:54:57,535
proceed.

3994
01:54:57,535 --> 01:54:59,770
the program is fully funded by   the

3995
01:54:59,770 --> 01:55:01,000
the ministry of long-term care   and

3996
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:01,434
and there's no requirement for   county

3997
01:55:01,434 --> 01:55:01,493
county funding.

3998
01:55:01,493 --> 01:55:07,824
this slide includes the   positions that were

3999
01:55:07,824 --> 01:55:10,016
positions that were tabled when   we were working

4000
01:55:10,016 --> 01:55:10,074
we were working collaboratively   with the county

4001
01:55:10,074 --> 01:55:13,617
with the county of essex due to   the mandate for

4002
01:55:13,617 --> 01:55:16,909
the mandate for the levy   increase.
These did

4003
01:55:16,909 --> 01:55:16,909
the mandate for the levy   increase.
These did

4004
01:55:16,909 --> 01:55:18,061
these did not make it but I will   speak to each

4005
01:55:18,061 --> 01:55:18,651
speak to each one of these as we

4006
01:55:18,651 --> 01:55:18,710
go

4007
01:55:18,710 --> 01:55:20,227
go through.

4008
01:55:20,227 --> 01:55:22,393
additional training hours   expanding

4009
01:55:22,393 --> 01:55:24,181
expanding training hours for   windsor

4010
01:55:24,181 --> 01:55:28,407
windsor essex for education that

4011
01:55:28,407 --> 01:55:29,382
insures adopting

4012
01:55:29,382 --> 01:55:29,930
insures adopting new protocols

4013
01:55:29,930 --> 01:55:30,321
such

4014
01:55:30,321 --> 01:55:32,737
such as training release and   emergency

4015
01:55:32,737 --> 01:55:33,121
emergency department diversion

4016
01:55:33,121 --> 01:55:33,774
.  Support special

4017
01:55:33,774 --> 01:55:35,758
support special projects and   teams and stay

4018
01:55:35,758 --> 01:55:36,901
teams and stay current with   mandatory

4019
01:55:36,901 --> 01:55:38,932
mandatory updates on best   practices.
Investment support strengthening

4020
01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:38,932
mandatory updates on best   practices.
Investment support strengthening

4021
01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:38,932
investment support strengthening

4022
01:55:38,932 --> 01:55:38,990
staff to leadership

4023
01:55:38,990 --> 01:55:43,129
staff to leadership,   relationships

4024
01:55:43,129 --> 01:55:44,337
relationships, fostering   resilient

4025
01:55:44,337 --> 01:55:45,317
resilient teams and trauma   informed

4026
01:55:45,317 --> 01:55:47,581
informed care in the service for   provincial reforms

4027
01:55:47,581 --> 01:55:47,699
provincial reforms without   additional

4028
01:55:47,699 --> 01:55:51,070
additional hours remains capped

4029
01:55:51,070 --> 01:55:51,908
it's important to

4030
01:55:51,908 --> 01:55:51,967
it's important to note eight of   the

4031
01:55:51,967 --> 01:55:55,342
the hours we have are from   training.
We

4032
01:55:55,342 --> 01:55:55,342
the hours we have are from   training.
We

4033
01:55:55,342 --> 01:55:57,390
we have no control over the   contents essentially

4034
01:55:57,390 --> 01:55:57,932
contents essentially the service

4035
01:55:57,932 --> 01:55:58,092
gets

4036
01:55:58,092 --> 01:55:58,700
gets eight hours with the stop   once per

4037
01:55:58,700 --> 01:55:58,759
once per year.

4038
01:55:58,759 --> 01:56:05,168
with those eight hours it's   going

4039
01:56:05,168 --> 01:56:06,717
going to force legislative and   operational

4040
01:56:06,717 --> 01:56:08,097
operational changes, wellness

4041
01:56:08,097 --> 01:56:08,157
on   leadership

4042
01:56:08,157 --> 01:56:08,802
leadership and updates to   compete for

4043
01:56:08,802 --> 01:56:10,396
compete for limited time.

4044
01:56:10,396 --> 01:56:12,526
we have the pds coming down in

4045
01:56:12,526 --> 01:56:14,334
2027.
We

4046
01:56:14,334 --> 01:56:14,334
2027.
We

4047
01:56:14,334 --> 01:56:15,594
we have new software rolling out

4048
01:56:15,594 --> 01:56:15,866
in

4049
01:56:15,866 --> 01:56:17,944
in 2026 that we need to train

4050
01:56:17,944 --> 01:56:18,003
on   it

4051
01:56:18,003 --> 01:56:18,003
it.  It

4052
01:56:18,003 --> 01:56:19,976
it becomes difficult to make   that

4053
01:56:19,976 --> 01:56:20,249
that happen.

4054
01:56:20,249 --> 01:56:22,104
it results in fragmented   transfer

4055
01:56:22,104 --> 01:56:24,738
transfer, and consistent   practice

4056
01:56:24,738 --> 01:56:25,558
practice and missed   opportunities

4057
01:56:25,558 --> 01:56:26,550
opportunities to safeguard staff   well-being

4058
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:29,754
well-being built leadership   capacity and sustain

4059
01:56:29,754 --> 01:56:30,965
capacity and sustain long-term   workforce stability.
The commander

4060
01:56:30,965 --> 01:56:30,965
capacity and sustain long-term   workforce stability.
The commander

4061
01:56:30,965 --> 01:56:34,073
the commander of operations   introducing

4062
01:56:34,073 --> 01:56:36,004
introducing capacity with an   operations

4063
01:56:36,004 --> 01:56:36,552
operations department to   strengthen

4064
01:56:36,552 --> 01:56:38,245
strengthen operational   performance

4065
01:56:38,245 --> 01:56:39,946
performance by creating   oversight deployment

4066
01:56:39,946 --> 01:56:40,333
oversight deployment efficiency

4067
01:56:40,333 --> 01:56:40,451
and

4068
01:56:40,451 --> 01:56:41,805
and realtime issue resolution.

4069
01:56:41,805 --> 01:56:41,805
it'll

4070
01:56:41,805 --> 01:56:44,770
it'll also enhance staff   engagement through increased
Leadership

4071
01:56:44,770 --> 01:56:44,770
it'll also enhance staff   engagement through increased
Leadership

4072
01:56:44,770 --> 01:56:46,750
leadership presence on mentor   ship

4073
01:56:46,750 --> 01:56:48,380
ship which builds greater   resiliency

4074
01:56:48,380 --> 01:56:50,137
resiliency for date -- daily   operational

4075
01:56:50,137 --> 01:56:51,128
operational issues, large-scale

4076
01:56:51,128 --> 01:56:52,317
incidents and

4077
01:56:52,317 --> 01:56:53,412
incidents and ensures consistent   application

4078
01:56:53,412 --> 01:56:54,949
application of policies across   the service

4079
01:56:54,949 --> 01:56:54,949
the service.

4080
01:56:54,949 --> 01:56:56,800
without the position the deputy   chief

4081
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:57,959
chief and front-line management

4082
01:56:57,959 --> 01:56:59,155
team

4083
01:56:59,155 --> 01:57:00,482
team will continue to remain   somewhat

4084
01:57:00,482 --> 01:57:01,420
somewhat a reactive posture with   difficulties in

4085
01:57:01,420 --> 01:57:02,993
difficulties in proactive   planning

4086
01:57:02,993 --> 01:57:06,011
planning result will be ongoing   performance

4087
01:57:06,011 --> 01:57:06,775
performance gaps and consistent   oversight

4088
01:57:06,775 --> 01:57:07,982
oversight and limited readiness   to

4089
01:57:07,982 --> 01:57:08,202
to meet the strategic priorities

4090
01:57:08,202 --> 01:57:08,202
  priorities.

4091
01:57:08,202 --> 01:57:08,202
priorities.

4092
01:57:08,202 --> 01:57:11,803
communications officers, I'm   going to

4093
01:57:11,803 --> 01:57:15,312
going to speak to this inside of   legislative

4094
01:57:15,312 --> 01:57:16,956
legislative and legal services

4095
01:57:16,956 --> 01:57:17,015
under david's department coming

4096
01:57:17,015 --> 01:57:17,015
under david's department coming

4097
01:57:17,015 --> 01:57:18,535
from

4098
01:57:18,535 --> 01:57:21,625
from essex windsor ems in   establishing a

4099
01:57:21,625 --> 01:57:21,743
establishing a dedicated   communications

4100
01:57:21,743 --> 01:57:26,149
communications resource will   significantly strengthen

4101
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:27,301
significantly strengthen public

4102
01:57:27,301 --> 01:57:27,795
education safety

4103
01:57:27,795 --> 01:57:28,335
education safety and engagement

4104
01:57:28,335 --> 01:57:28,777
while providing

4105
01:57:28,777 --> 01:57:30,989
while providing a reliable   framework for

4106
01:57:30,989 --> 01:57:32,191
framework for launching   community programs

4107
01:57:32,191 --> 01:57:33,939
community programs such as our   community

4108
01:57:33,939 --> 01:57:34,087
community education.

4109
01:57:34,087 --> 01:57:37,109
this role will continue to build   ems

4110
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:39,356
ems specific brand awareness,

4111
01:57:39,356 --> 01:57:39,415
promote recruitment

4112
01:57:39,415 --> 01:57:40,887
promote recruitment and   retention

4113
01:57:40,887 --> 01:57:42,309
retention and enhance county and

4114
01:57:42,309 --> 01:57:42,699
ems reputation

4115
01:57:42,699 --> 01:57:43,358
ems reputation through   consistent

4116
01:57:43,358 --> 01:57:44,781
consistent messaging and   evidence-based

4117
01:57:44,781 --> 01:57:44,840
evidence-based outreach.  Boosting

4118
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:50,176
boosting our social media   presence particularly

4119
01:57:50,176 --> 01:57:50,613
presence particularly video   content

4120
01:57:50,613 --> 01:57:51,723
content and collaboration with   stakeholders

4121
01:57:51,723 --> 01:57:53,356
stakeholders the position is   anticipated

4122
01:57:53,356 --> 01:57:54,339
anticipated to improve   recognition

4123
01:57:54,339 --> 01:57:56,256
recognition, community trust and

4124
01:57:56,256 --> 01:57:56,476
without

4125
01:57:56,476 --> 01:57:58,166
without approval ems will remain

4126
01:57:58,166 --> 01:57:58,608
dependent on the

4127
01:57:58,608 --> 01:57:59,040
dependent on the current   communications

4128
01:57:59,040 --> 01:57:59,371
communications department   support

4129
01:57:59,371 --> 01:58:01,557
support which is doing a good   job

4130
01:58:01,557 --> 01:58:03,362
job but ems does eat up a lot

4131
01:58:03,362 --> 01:58:04,408
of   their time.
There's a lot

4132
01:58:04,408 --> 01:58:04,408
of   their time.
There's a lot

4133
01:58:04,408 --> 01:58:04,467
there's a lot happening in ems

4134
01:58:04,467 --> 01:58:06,007
and

4135
01:58:06,007 --> 01:58:08,572
and we send stuff very   frequently

4136
01:58:08,572 --> 01:58:09,117
frequently pick the considerable

4137
01:58:09,117 --> 01:58:10,601
workload

4138
01:58:10,601 --> 01:58:12,887
workload on the department.

4139
01:58:12,887 --> 01:58:14,159
community programs coordinator

4140
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:14,858
establishing

4141
01:58:14,858 --> 01:58:15,789
establishing a full-time   community programs coordinator

4142
01:58:15,789 --> 01:58:15,789
community programs coordinator

4143
01:58:15,789 --> 01:58:16,945
will

4144
01:58:16,945 --> 01:58:19,735
will build on the concert -- the   considerable

4145
01:58:19,735 --> 01:58:21,323
considerable gains achieved...  Across

4146
01:58:21,323 --> 01:58:22,635
across our community educating

4147
01:58:22,635 --> 01:58:23,141
our youth

4148
01:58:23,141 --> 01:58:23,686
our youth, promoting the   profession and strengthening

4149
01:58:23,686 --> 01:58:23,745
profession and strengthening   public

4150
01:58:23,745 --> 01:58:25,288
public trust.

4151
01:58:25,288 --> 01:58:26,974
the role will ensure consistent

4152
01:58:26,974 --> 01:58:27,033
outreach

4153
01:58:27,033 --> 01:58:32,276
outreach, training, ongoing   program

4154
01:58:32,276 --> 01:58:33,701
program expansion and engaging

4155
01:58:33,701 --> 01:58:34,255
in

4156
01:58:34,255 --> 01:58:36,392
in joint initiatives with other   emergency services

4157
01:58:36,392 --> 01:58:37,370
emergency services and   healthcare

4158
01:58:37,370 --> 01:58:38,572
healthcare partners while   providing meaningful

4159
01:58:38,572 --> 01:58:39,069
providing meaningful   opportunities

4160
01:58:39,069 --> 01:58:40,259
opportunities for modified duty

4161
01:58:40,259 --> 01:58:40,707
personnel

4162
01:58:40,707 --> 01:58:42,190
personnel and those returning   from operational

4163
01:58:42,190 --> 01:58:43,886
from operational stress leave

4164
01:58:43,886 --> 01:58:43,945
to   reengage

4165
01:58:43,945 --> 01:58:45,498
reengage with the uniform before

4166
01:58:45,498 --> 01:58:45,715
resuming full front-line duties

4167
01:58:45,715 --> 01:58:45,715
resuming full front-line duties

4168
01:58:45,715 --> 01:58:45,715
.

4169
01:58:45,715 --> 01:58:51,517
by sustaining visibility and   proactive engagement

4170
01:58:51,517 --> 01:58:53,093
proactive engagement the   position

4171
01:58:53,093 --> 01:58:54,352
position will enhance ems's   reputation

4172
01:58:54,352 --> 01:58:56,067
reputation as innovative and   community

4173
01:58:56,067 --> 01:58:56,723
community focused.

4174
01:58:56,723 --> 01:58:58,096
seeking to improve bystander   intervention

4175
01:58:58,096 --> 01:58:58,645
intervention rates for all   emergencies

4176
01:58:58,645 --> 01:59:01,653
emergencies, reduce preventable

4177
01:59:01,653 --> 01:59:02,041
911 calls.
Without

4178
01:59:02,041 --> 01:59:02,041
911 calls.
Without

4179
01:59:02,041 --> 01:59:04,940
without approval will be forced

4180
01:59:04,940 --> 01:59:05,264
to

4181
01:59:05,264 --> 01:59:07,474
to scale back its current   presence

4182
01:59:07,474 --> 01:59:09,555
presence limiting public   education

4183
01:59:09,555 --> 01:59:10,692
education, 880 awareness and   decreasing

4184
01:59:10,692 --> 01:59:11,353
decreasing the momentum that's   already been

4185
01:59:11,353 --> 01:59:12,833
already been built.

4186
01:59:12,833 --> 01:59:16,743
ems systems analyst director of   it

4187
01:59:16,743 --> 01:59:18,439
it will speak to this but I can

4188
01:59:18,439 --> 01:59:18,882
tell

4189
01:59:18,882 --> 01:59:20,084
tell you from an ems perspective

4190
01:59:20,084 --> 01:59:20,524
because

4191
01:59:20,524 --> 01:59:23,044
because it's a very technical

4192
01:59:23,044 --> 01:59:23,104
position we have

4193
01:59:23,104 --> 01:59:23,989
position we have extensive   software and

4194
01:59:23,989 --> 01:59:25,254
software and data resources but

4195
01:59:25,254 --> 01:59:25,682
they

4196
01:59:25,682 --> 01:59:27,163
they are not fully optimized   pick the

4197
01:59:27,163 --> 01:59:28,695
pick the systems analyst roll   would focus

4198
01:59:28,695 --> 01:59:29,839
would focus on improving these

4199
01:59:29,839 --> 01:59:30,726
tools

4200
01:59:30,726 --> 01:59:31,778
tools on driving efficiency and   enabling systemwide innovation

4201
01:59:31,778 --> 01:59:31,778
enabling systemwide innovation

4202
01:59:31,778 --> 01:59:31,778
.

4203
01:59:31,778 --> 01:59:37,593
finally vehicle services   technician

4204
01:59:37,593 --> 01:59:37,593
technician.

4205
01:59:37,593 --> 01:59:39,784
with previous on the upcoming   vehicle additions to the

4206
01:59:39,784 --> 01:59:39,844
vehicle additions to the fleet   the workload

4207
01:59:39,844 --> 01:59:44,503
the workload on our vehicle   support technician

4208
01:59:44,503 --> 01:59:45,929
support technician is starting   to

4209
01:59:45,929 --> 01:59:48,556
to outpace capacity posing risk   to preventative maintenance

4210
01:59:48,556 --> 01:59:49,983
to preventative maintenance,   reliability and compliance

4211
01:59:49,983 --> 01:59:51,180
reliability and compliance,   introducing

4212
01:59:51,180 --> 01:59:52,498
introducing a second will   strengthen

4213
01:59:52,498 --> 01:59:53,541
strengthen operational   performance

4214
01:59:53,541 --> 01:59:55,366
performance by ensuring timely

4215
01:59:55,366 --> 01:59:56,291
repairs

4216
01:59:56,291 --> 01:59:57,568
repairs, inspections and   documentation

4217
01:59:57,568 --> 01:59:59,045
documentation, reducing reliance

4218
01:59:59,045 --> 01:59:59,770
on outsourcing

4219
01:59:59,770 --> 02:00:00,750
on outsourcing and providing   critical redundancy

4220
02:00:00,750 --> 02:00:01,511
critical redundancy during   absences

4221
02:00:01,511 --> 02:00:02,504
absences or peak demand.

4222
02:00:02,504 --> 02:00:04,812
we don't have a backup so when   the individuals

4223
02:00:04,812 --> 02:00:06,391
the individuals taking vacation

4224
02:00:06,391 --> 02:00:07,567
we are outsourcing

4225
02:00:07,567 --> 02:00:08,699
we are outsourcing the work.

4226
02:00:08,699 --> 02:00:10,303
the added capacity will improve

4227
02:00:10,303 --> 02:00:10,447
a

4228
02:00:10,447 --> 02:00:13,841
a fit -- available to, safeguard

4229
02:00:13,841 --> 02:00:14,119
staff with reliable vehicles and

4230
02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:14,119
staff with reliable vehicles and

4231
02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:14,178
position the

4232
02:00:14,178 --> 02:00:18,162
position the service sustainably   and cost-effectively

4233
02:00:18,162 --> 02:00:18,162
and cost-effectively.

4234
02:00:18,162 --> 02:00:21,456
without the role the model will   continue to generate backlogs
And

4235
02:00:21,456 --> 02:00:21,456
without the role the model will   continue to generate backlogs
And

4236
02:00:21,456 --> 02:00:25,390
and compliance gaps down time   leaving the organization

4237
02:00:25,390 --> 02:00:25,449
leaving the organization   reactive

4238
02:00:25,449 --> 02:00:27,569
reactive or unable to meet the   demands

4239
02:00:27,569 --> 02:00:27,850
demands of the expanding fleet   and service

4240
02:00:27,850 --> 02:00:27,968
and service delivery model.

4241
02:00:27,968 --> 02:00:33,441
in conclusion I thank you for   the opportunity

4242
02:00:33,441 --> 02:00:34,585
the opportunity to present the   proposed

4243
02:00:34,585 --> 02:00:36,184
proposed 2026 emergency to   service

4244
02:00:36,184 --> 02:00:38,930
service -- department budget to

4245
02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:39,466
council

4246
02:00:39,466 --> 02:00:39,466
council.

4247
02:00:39,466 --> 02:00:41,186
I'd like to thank councillors...

4248
02:00:41,186 --> 02:00:41,186


4249
02:00:41,186 --> 02:00:43,534
miss heidi macleod, kelly   schmidt

4250
02:00:43,534 --> 02:00:45,290
schmidt and the essex windsor

4251
02:00:45,290 --> 02:00:45,349
senior leadership

4252
02:00:45,349 --> 02:00:45,889
senior leadership team for the   preparation

4253
02:00:45,889 --> 02:00:47,489
preparation of the budget and

4254
02:00:47,489 --> 02:00:47,548
I'd like to

4255
02:00:47,548 --> 02:00:49,506
I'd like to thank the entire   team at

4256
02:00:49,506 --> 02:00:51,336
team at essex windsor for the

4257
02:00:51,336 --> 02:00:51,395
continued dedication

4258
02:00:51,395 --> 02:00:51,395
continued dedication.  I'm

4259
02:00:51,395 --> 02:00:52,593
I'm open to any questions at   council may have

4260
02:00:52,593 --> 02:00:52,593
council may have.

4261
02:00:52,593 --> 02:00:56,964
>> thanks.  Are there

4262
02:00:56,964 --> 02:00:58,550
are there any questions   regarding

4263
02:00:58,550 --> 02:01:01,555
regarding the>> are 2026 budget   estimates

4264
02:01:01,555 --> 02:01:02,214
estimates there any questions?

4265
02:01:02,214 --> 02:01:02,214
?

4266
02:01:02,214 --> 02:01:08,493
starting with you.  >> thank you for

4267
02:01:08,493 --> 02:01:08,603
>> thank you for the   presentation, I

4268
02:01:08,603 --> 02:01:08,603
presentation, I

4269
02:01:08,603 --> 02:01:08,603
presentation, I

4270
02:01:08,603 --> 02:01:08,603
presentation, I

4271
02:01:08,603 --> 02:01:11,674
know it is not   an easy thing

4272
02:01:11,674 --> 02:01:14,728
an easy thing for anyone to do   but the

4273
02:01:14,728 --> 02:01:17,136
but the one item you cut was the   additional

4274
02:01:17,136 --> 02:01:20,855
additional training hours and I   feel

4275
02:01:20,855 --> 02:01:22,934
feel like you did use the word   mandatory training that we

4276
02:01:22,934 --> 02:01:23,488
mandatory training that we would   not be

4277
02:01:23,488 --> 02:01:25,012
not be getting if we didn't have   those additional

4278
02:01:25,012 --> 02:01:25,072
those additional hours.

4279
02:01:25,072 --> 02:01:26,324
is that correct?

4280
02:01:26,324 --> 02:01:32,233
>> we would have to define   mandatory

4281
02:01:32,233 --> 02:01:33,873
mandatory but anything that   comes down

4282
02:01:33,873 --> 02:01:35,021
comes down from the province,

4283
02:01:35,021 --> 02:01:35,513
we   do have

4284
02:01:35,513 --> 02:01:36,494
do have to train and we would   try to

4285
02:01:36,494 --> 02:01:38,132
try to find ways to do it.  Essentially we get

4286
02:01:38,132 --> 02:01:38,243
essentially we get one day with   all

4287
02:01:38,243 --> 02:01:41,313
all of our staff and we pack   everything

4288
02:01:41,313 --> 02:01:42,843
everything in and then we try to   get innovative

4289
02:01:42,843 --> 02:01:44,924
get innovative with putting   champions on the street

4290
02:01:44,924 --> 02:01:44,975
champions on the street,   developing

4291
02:01:44,975 --> 02:01:48,315
developing field training   officer

4292
02:01:48,315 --> 02:01:49,621
officer roles and getting them   out

4293
02:01:49,621 --> 02:01:50,283
out there.  Anything mandatory

4294
02:01:50,283 --> 02:01:51,870
anything mandatory from the   minister

4295
02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:52,904
minister of health we would   absolutely

4296
02:01:52,904 --> 02:01:53,883
absolutely be taking care of the

4297
02:01:53,883 --> 02:01:54,104
training and we would leave

4298
02:01:54,104 --> 02:01:54,212
training and we would leave that   undone

4299
02:01:54,212 --> 02:01:54,212
undone.

4300
02:01:54,212 --> 02:01:57,174
however, there is more than just   that happening

4301
02:01:57,174 --> 02:02:01,163
that happening and once a year

4302
02:02:01,163 --> 02:02:01,323
out of 12 months we get

4303
02:02:01,323 --> 02:02:02,531
out of 12 months we get six   weeks in the

4304
02:02:02,531 --> 02:02:05,923
weeks in the fall and things   have

4305
02:02:05,923 --> 02:02:07,071
have happened in february and

4306
02:02:07,071 --> 02:02:07,123
march trying

4307
02:02:07,123 --> 02:02:07,343
march trying to get that   communication and get the

4308
02:02:07,343 --> 02:02:08,981
communication and get the   training done

4309
02:02:08,981 --> 02:02:10,512
training done so it becomes very   difficult

4310
02:02:10,512 --> 02:02:10,512
difficult.

4311
02:02:10,512 --> 02:02:17,294
>> you have asked for an   additional

4312
02:02:17,294 --> 02:02:21,013
additional 199,935 if we could   included

4313
02:02:21,013 --> 02:02:21,885
included in the budget.  How many

4314
02:02:21,885 --> 02:02:24,788
how many ours is that her person

4315
02:02:24,788 --> 02:02:25,771
in

4316
02:02:25,771 --> 02:02:26,044
in order to get the training   that is

4317
02:02:26,044 --> 02:02:27,083
that is needed?

4318
02:02:27,083 --> 02:02:29,874
training is extremely important

4319
02:02:29,874 --> 02:02:33,211
whether

4320
02:02:33,211 --> 02:02:34,683
whether you are new or whether

4321
02:02:34,683 --> 02:02:35,122
you are seasoned

4322
02:02:35,122 --> 02:02:35,994
you are seasoned, training is   something we should never

4323
02:02:35,994 --> 02:02:36,103
something we should never shove   to the

4324
02:02:36,103 --> 02:02:37,854
to the side and I would be   hoping

4325
02:02:37,854 --> 02:02:41,034
hoping that council may see that

4326
02:02:41,034 --> 02:02:41,463
this is an

4327
02:02:41,463 --> 02:02:42,831
this is an item we should add

4328
02:02:42,831 --> 02:02:42,883
to   the budget

4329
02:02:42,883 --> 02:02:42,883
the budget.

4330
02:02:42,883 --> 02:02:44,092
what would that give to each of

4331
02:02:44,092 --> 02:02:44,202
our ems workers

4332
02:02:44,202 --> 02:02:44,202
our ems workers?

4333
02:02:44,202 --> 02:02:50,323
>> another eight hours of   training to

4334
02:02:50,323 --> 02:02:50,757
training to each paramedic the   service.
>> thank you

4335
02:02:50,757 --> 02:02:50,757
training to each paramedic the   service.
>> thank you

4336
02:02:50,757 --> 02:02:50,757
>> thank you.

4337
02:02:50,757 --> 02:02:55,245
>> thank you.

4338
02:02:55,245 --> 02:02:56,234
councillor gibb.  >>

4339
02:02:56,234 --> 02:02:56,342
>> thank you, madam morden.

4340
02:02:56,342 --> 02:03:01,155
through you to the chief, could   you expand

4341
02:03:01,155 --> 02:03:06,291
you expand on this community   programs coordinator

4342
02:03:06,291 --> 02:03:06,619
programs coordinator and if you   could talk more

4343
02:03:06,619 --> 02:03:09,851
could talk more about the   success

4344
02:03:09,851 --> 02:03:11,819
success of our public access   defibrillator

4345
02:03:11,819 --> 02:03:14,233
defibrillator program and what

4346
02:03:14,233 --> 02:03:14,934
you feel

4347
02:03:14,934 --> 02:03:16,683
you feel will happen to that   program if this

4348
02:03:16,683 --> 02:03:18,320
program if this coordinated   position is

4349
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:19,087
position is not funded?

4350
02:03:19,087 --> 02:03:24,675
>> through you warden, the   coordinator

4351
02:03:24,675 --> 02:03:25,382
coordinator is a position you

4352
02:03:25,382 --> 02:03:25,434
are likely all familiar

4353
02:03:25,434 --> 02:03:28,498
are likely all familiar with   with the

4354
02:03:28,498 --> 02:03:29,263
with the enbridge grant, an   individual

4355
02:03:29,263 --> 02:03:31,074
individual that works with us

4356
02:03:31,074 --> 02:03:31,074
that

4357
02:03:31,074 --> 02:03:32,437
that is out on the street   promoting

4358
02:03:32,437 --> 02:03:33,586
promoting the uptake and use of   public

4359
02:03:33,586 --> 02:03:33,638
public access defibrillators but

4360
02:03:33,638 --> 02:03:35,494
also a big part

4361
02:03:35,494 --> 02:03:38,181
also a big part of public   education

4362
02:03:38,181 --> 02:03:38,674
education.  For about

4363
02:03:38,674 --> 02:03:40,087
for about a year and a half we   have

4364
02:03:40,087 --> 02:03:41,183
have been making this work in   previous it was

4365
02:03:41,183 --> 02:03:42,771
previous it was a piecemeal   operation

4366
02:03:42,771 --> 02:03:44,029
operation who was not able to be   at work

4367
02:03:44,029 --> 02:03:47,368
at work, someone on modified   duties

4368
02:03:47,368 --> 02:03:49,494
duties, we had no running   cadence

4369
02:03:49,494 --> 02:03:50,701
cadence of a strategy of a plan   to make sure we

4370
02:03:50,701 --> 02:03:50,814
to make sure we could continue   doing

4371
02:03:50,814 --> 02:03:51,411
doing it.

4372
02:03:51,411 --> 02:03:56,823
when this individual started we   had

4373
02:03:56,823 --> 02:03:57,103
had roughly 300 public access

4374
02:03:57,103 --> 02:03:57,155
defibrillators mapped out on

4375
02:03:57,155 --> 02:03:57,211
defibrillators mapped out on the

4376
02:03:57,211 --> 02:03:59,614
street,

4377
02:03:59,614 --> 02:04:00,546
street, we are over 1400, about

4378
02:04:00,546 --> 02:04:00,654
85 have

4379
02:04:00,654 --> 02:04:05,411
85 have been -- are brand-new

4380
02:04:05,411 --> 02:04:05,411
that

4381
02:04:05,411 --> 02:04:06,673
that have been installed in   organizations

4382
02:04:06,673 --> 02:04:07,325
organizations as a result of the   work this

4383
02:04:07,325 --> 02:04:07,431
work this individual is doing.

4384
02:04:07,431 --> 02:04:07,431


4385
02:04:07,431 --> 02:04:11,761
we are starting down the road,

4386
02:04:11,761 --> 02:04:13,562
every municipality has

4387
02:04:13,562 --> 02:04:13,616
every municipality has supported

4388
02:04:13,616 --> 02:04:15,151
that

4389
02:04:15,151 --> 02:04:18,322
that and in rotate cabinets,   that is

4390
02:04:18,322 --> 02:04:19,093
that is the next division to   make

4391
02:04:19,093 --> 02:04:21,713
make sure it's not locked up   behind closed

4392
02:04:21,713 --> 02:04:21,992
behind closed doors.  Over

4393
02:04:21,992 --> 02:04:22,926
over 50 schools, educating over

4394
02:04:22,926 --> 02:04:24,559
2000 people

4395
02:04:24,559 --> 02:04:27,727
2000 people and over 1200 of   those being students

4396
02:04:27,727 --> 02:04:30,028
those being students and 134   public

4397
02:04:30,028 --> 02:04:30,463
public session so what would   happen

4398
02:04:30,463 --> 02:04:31,667
happen is we would do the best

4399
02:04:31,667 --> 02:04:31,834
we

4400
02:04:31,834 --> 02:04:32,544
we could with what we have but

4401
02:04:32,544 --> 02:04:32,655
it will be fragmented

4402
02:04:32,655 --> 02:04:32,655
it will be fragmented.

4403
02:04:32,655 --> 02:04:36,515
we would definitely lose the   gains

4404
02:04:36,515 --> 02:04:37,168
gains that we've had, it would

4405
02:04:37,168 --> 02:04:37,288
not be a

4406
02:04:37,288 --> 02:04:40,126
not be a hard stop but it would   not be what

4407
02:04:40,126 --> 02:04:41,712
not be what you see right now.

4408
02:04:41,712 --> 02:04:47,122
>> as a follow-up, if I may, you   talk

4409
02:04:47,122 --> 02:04:48,325
talk about building community   resilience, this

4410
02:04:48,325 --> 02:04:48,435
resilience, this position builds   community resilience

4411
02:04:48,435 --> 02:04:48,435
community resilience.

4412
02:04:48,435 --> 02:04:55,436
how does that affect in the   situations

4413
02:04:55,436 --> 02:04:57,515
situations where we have code   code red,

4414
02:04:57,515 --> 02:04:57,951
code red, code block, how does   it

4415
02:04:57,951 --> 02:05:00,683
it assist you and your team to

4416
02:05:00,683 --> 02:05:00,852
provide

4417
02:05:00,852 --> 02:05:04,956
provide that, you know,   life-saving care

4418
02:05:04,956 --> 02:05:07,687
life-saving care when the system   is stretched

4419
02:05:07,687 --> 02:05:07,687
is stretched?

4420
02:05:07,687 --> 02:05:13,484
>> I will break that into 2   2 pillars,

4421
02:05:13,484 --> 02:05:14,466
2 pillars, one being the   defibrillator

4422
02:05:14,466 --> 02:05:14,466
defibrillator.

4423
02:05:14,466 --> 02:05:15,883
we know that if a defibrillators

4424
02:05:15,883 --> 02:05:16,654
applied within the

4425
02:05:16,654 --> 02:05:17,426
applied within the first minute

4426
02:05:17,426 --> 02:05:17,634
there is

4427
02:05:17,634 --> 02:05:18,296
there is a 90% chance of   survival and it goes

4428
02:05:18,296 --> 02:05:19,495
survival and it goes down temper

4429
02:05:19,495 --> 02:05:21,904
sense every minute after that

4430
02:05:21,904 --> 02:05:21,904
sense every minute after that.

4431
02:05:21,904 --> 02:05:21,904
the

4432
02:05:21,904 --> 02:05:26,713
the more knowing how to do cpr

4433
02:05:26,713 --> 02:05:26,931
and have

4434
02:05:26,931 --> 02:05:27,705
and have access to a   defibrillator

4435
02:05:27,705 --> 02:05:28,633
defibrillator and know how to

4436
02:05:28,633 --> 02:05:28,685
use it

4437
02:05:28,685 --> 02:05:29,563
use it is putting our hands   further

4438
02:05:29,563 --> 02:05:29,674
further into the community and

4439
02:05:29,674 --> 02:05:31,152
leverage

4440
02:05:31,152 --> 02:05:34,482
leverage lay responders and that

4441
02:05:34,482 --> 02:05:34,647
has

4442
02:05:34,647 --> 02:05:35,907
has it's own trajectory is how   far we

4443
02:05:35,907 --> 02:05:36,343
far we can go with that.  The

4444
02:05:36,343 --> 02:05:39,463
the other piece is the public

4445
02:05:39,463 --> 02:05:39,463
relations,

4446
02:05:39,463 --> 02:05:40,714
relations, getting to the   schools and

4447
02:05:40,714 --> 02:05:41,708
schools and talking to the   people and

4448
02:05:41,708 --> 02:05:43,129
people and went to call 911 and   how to stop

4449
02:05:43,129 --> 02:05:43,675
how to stop a bleed, all of   these things that

4450
02:05:43,675 --> 02:05:45,201
these things that are happening

4451
02:05:45,201 --> 02:05:46,242
that

4452
02:05:46,242 --> 02:05:47,496
that are educating our youth and   our community

4453
02:05:47,496 --> 02:05:47,605
our community members to make   the

4454
02:05:47,605 --> 02:05:47,935
the right call.

4455
02:05:47,935 --> 02:05:50,676
that maybe 911 is not the option

4456
02:05:50,676 --> 02:05:53,514
or we are improving mortality

4457
02:05:53,514 --> 02:05:53,573
or we are improving mortality

4458
02:05:53,573 --> 02:05:53,573
rates

4459
02:05:53,573 --> 02:05:57,233
rates because they are being   able

4460
02:05:57,233 --> 02:05:58,653
able to apply basic first aid   and skills

4461
02:05:58,653 --> 02:05:59,263
and skills while the paramedic

4462
02:05:59,263 --> 02:06:00,294
's   are on their

4463
02:06:00,294 --> 02:06:01,176
are on their way so every person   in the community

4464
02:06:01,176 --> 02:06:01,284
in the community that   understands

4465
02:06:01,284 --> 02:06:03,851
understands our mission and how

4466
02:06:03,851 --> 02:06:04,404
they

4467
02:06:04,404 --> 02:06:04,895
they can contribute as a good   steward of

4468
02:06:04,895 --> 02:06:07,184
steward of our community is a   bonus for us

4469
02:06:07,184 --> 02:06:07,184
bonus for us.

4470
02:06:07,184 --> 02:06:09,374
>> thank you very much.

4471
02:06:09,374 --> 02:06:15,495
I look to the warden, I would   like to

4472
02:06:15,495 --> 02:06:16,479
like to make a motion to add   this

4473
02:06:16,479 --> 02:06:17,907
this position to the budget and   I don't

4474
02:06:17,907 --> 02:06:18,884
I don't know if now is the   appropriate

4475
02:06:18,884 --> 02:06:19,052
appropriate time to have the   discussion

4476
02:06:19,052 --> 02:06:23,430
discussion or if it should wait.

4477
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:26,760
>> what if we take all the   comments around the

4478
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:26,868
comments around the table first   and

4479
02:06:26,868 --> 02:06:30,813
and then when I read the   recommendation

4480
02:06:30,813 --> 02:06:34,091
recommendation you can add to it

4481
02:06:34,091 --> 02:06:34,091
  it,

4482
02:06:34,091 --> 02:06:35,185
it, whatever you would like to   do.
Is that

4483
02:06:35,185 --> 02:06:35,185
it, whatever you would like to   do.
Is that

4484
02:06:35,185 --> 02:06:35,242
is that okay?

4485
02:06:35,242 --> 02:06:38,247
there may still be some more   suggestions

4486
02:06:38,247 --> 02:06:38,247
suggestions.

4487
02:06:38,247 --> 02:06:41,760
okay, thank you.

4488
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,155
councillor bondy.  >>

4489
02:06:44,155 --> 02:06:47,656
>> thank you warden mcdonald,   I

4490
02:06:47,656 --> 02:06:49,296
I want to thank the   councilmember

4491
02:06:49,296 --> 02:06:50,233
councilmember across the table

4492
02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:50,233
.

4493
02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:51,155
I will easily support that and   I'm

4494
02:06:51,155 --> 02:06:54,107
I'm hoping the balance to   support

4495
02:06:54,107 --> 02:06:54,275
support that.

4496
02:06:54,275 --> 02:06:56,185
I have a couple questions.  When it says excluded

4497
02:06:56,185 --> 02:06:57,773
when it says excluded from   budget

4498
02:06:57,773 --> 02:06:59,685
budget ranked in order, does   that mean

4499
02:06:59,685 --> 02:07:01,884
that mean that is the order of   preference from administration

4500
02:07:01,884 --> 02:07:01,884
preference from administration

4501
02:07:01,884 --> 02:07:02,635
as a whole

4502
02:07:02,635 --> 02:07:04,059
as a whole and how they would   like to

4503
02:07:04,059 --> 02:07:04,826
like to see if we were to bring   any

4504
02:07:04,826 --> 02:07:04,937
any positions back?

4505
02:07:04,937 --> 02:07:07,346
because the community programs

4506
02:07:07,346 --> 02:07:07,403
coordinator

4507
02:07:07,403 --> 02:07:12,045
coordinator is ranked number 1   so is that

4508
02:07:12,045 --> 02:07:13,682
so is that from an   administrative

4509
02:07:13,682 --> 02:07:14,887
administrative point of view and   I'm talking about

4510
02:07:14,887 --> 02:07:16,474
I'm talking about appendix three  three,

4511
02:07:16,474 --> 02:07:18,391
three, does that mean that   position is

4512
02:07:18,391 --> 02:07:19,490
position is the most important   to

4513
02:07:19,490 --> 02:07:19,595
to bring back?

4514
02:07:19,595 --> 02:07:32,064
it's appendix three.  >>

4515
02:07:32,064 --> 02:07:32,498
>> I will speak to appendix   three and I

4516
02:07:32,498 --> 02:07:36,105
three and I will let chief   lammers

4517
02:07:36,105 --> 02:07:36,544
lammers speak.  What we did as

4518
02:07:36,544 --> 02:07:36,652
what we did as senior leadership

4519
02:07:36,652 --> 02:07:39,885
is

4520
02:07:39,885 --> 02:07:41,685
is we had all of these items on   the table

4521
02:07:41,685 --> 02:07:41,903
the table and we decided as a   leadership

4522
02:07:41,903 --> 02:07:45,076
leadership team we ranked what   we thought

4523
02:07:45,076 --> 02:07:46,445
we thought was most important

4524
02:07:46,445 --> 02:07:46,497
and we

4525
02:07:46,497 --> 02:07:46,604
and we tallied up the results to

4526
02:07:46,604 --> 02:07:46,715
present to

4527
02:07:46,715 --> 02:07:49,677
present to council in that   fashion

4528
02:07:49,677 --> 02:07:51,531
fashion to everything there was   a collective

4529
02:07:51,531 --> 02:07:52,292
a collective effort based on all

4530
02:07:52,292 --> 02:07:52,400
of the senior leadership

4531
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:55,797
of the senior leadership team   decisions

4532
02:07:55,797 --> 02:07:56,995
decisions but I will let justin   speak

4533
02:07:56,995 --> 02:07:58,856
speak to the importance of the

4534
02:07:58,856 --> 02:08:00,716
position in respective

4535
02:08:00,716 --> 02:08:04,327
position in respective of all of   his items

4536
02:08:04,327 --> 02:08:04,435
his items.  >> thank you

4537
02:08:04,435 --> 02:08:04,435
>> thank you.

4538
02:08:04,435 --> 02:08:08,106
just looking at the slides here,

4539
02:08:08,106 --> 02:08:08,219
if

4540
02:08:08,219 --> 02:08:10,886
if you are asking what the order

4541
02:08:10,886 --> 02:08:10,997
of preference is

4542
02:08:10,997 --> 02:08:14,937
of preference is, obviously the   community

4543
02:08:14,937 --> 02:08:15,489
community programs coordinator,

4544
02:08:15,489 --> 02:08:15,707
that is

4545
02:08:15,707 --> 02:08:16,908
that is going to have a big   impact

4546
02:08:16,908 --> 02:08:17,182
impact across the board if we

4547
02:08:17,182 --> 02:08:17,235
don't have that

4548
02:08:17,235 --> 02:08:17,235
don't have that.

4549
02:08:17,235 --> 02:08:22,486
additional training ours for me   is

4550
02:08:22,486 --> 02:08:23,413
is a big one.  We

4551
02:08:23,413 --> 02:08:24,615
we definitely are not training

4552
02:08:24,615 --> 02:08:25,325
our staff as often

4553
02:08:25,325 --> 02:08:26,309
our staff as often as we should   and

4554
02:08:26,309 --> 02:08:27,463
and when I compare ourselves to

4555
02:08:27,463 --> 02:08:28,067
others services

4556
02:08:28,067 --> 02:08:28,716
others services in the province,

4557
02:08:28,716 --> 02:08:28,825
we are low on the

4558
02:08:28,825 --> 02:08:30,414
we are low on the side of   training.

4559
02:08:30,414 --> 02:08:30,414
we are low on the side of   training.

4560
02:08:30,414 --> 02:08:32,325
it's been a budgetary ask for   quite

4561
02:08:32,325 --> 02:08:33,308
quite some time but has not been   able to make it

4562
02:08:33,308 --> 02:08:33,419
able to make it to the table.

4563
02:08:33,419 --> 02:08:38,016
outside of that, any capacity,

4564
02:08:38,016 --> 02:08:38,449
any support we

4565
02:08:38,449 --> 02:08:40,097
any support we can get as a   whole to

4566
02:08:40,097 --> 02:08:40,856
whole to continue on the   development

4567
02:08:40,856 --> 02:08:41,076
development and the growth of   this organization

4568
02:08:41,076 --> 02:08:43,377
this organization, would be   appreciated

4569
02:08:43,377 --> 02:08:43,377
appreciated.

4570
02:08:43,377 --> 02:08:48,075
>> thank you for that.

4571
02:08:48,075 --> 02:08:52,562
I see several positions from ems

4572
02:08:52,562 --> 02:08:56,174
so it is under

4573
02:08:56,174 --> 02:08:58,964
so it is under 12.2 budget   overview

4574
02:08:58,964 --> 02:09:01,805
overview in case some other   members

4575
02:09:01,805 --> 02:09:02,517
members of council can't see it   because

4576
02:09:02,517 --> 02:09:02,631
because you have to go back.

4577
02:09:02,631 --> 02:09:07,322
I am wondering what else we can

4578
02:09:07,322 --> 02:09:08,913
do.

4579
02:09:08,913 --> 02:09:08,913
do.

4580
02:09:08,913 --> 02:09:12,252
I know we don't like to raise   the levee

4581
02:09:12,252 --> 02:09:12,684
the levee but the levy is a very   reasonable

4582
02:09:12,684 --> 02:09:16,625
reasonable levy and when it   comes to

4583
02:09:16,625 --> 02:09:18,267
comes to ems, we need to support   ems

4584
02:09:18,267 --> 02:09:20,183
ems more than we need to support

4585
02:09:20,183 --> 02:09:20,403
the

4586
02:09:20,403 --> 02:09:21,216
the mega-hospital right now in   my opinion

4587
02:09:21,216 --> 02:09:23,842
my opinion because the mega  mega-hospital,

4588
02:09:23,842 --> 02:09:24,826
mega-hospital, we are doing   really

4589
02:09:24,826 --> 02:09:25,707
really well, I believe in saving

4590
02:09:25,707 --> 02:09:25,817
money for that

4591
02:09:25,817 --> 02:09:29,855
money for that but ems,   supporting

4592
02:09:29,855 --> 02:09:31,009
supporting ems is urgent.

4593
02:09:31,009 --> 02:09:32,983
the mega-hospital, we can't get

4594
02:09:32,983 --> 02:09:33,194
them

4595
02:09:33,194 --> 02:09:34,122
them to come to the table and   answer

4596
02:09:34,122 --> 02:09:34,675
answer our questions.

4597
02:09:34,675 --> 02:09:38,610
what is the status of our letter

4598
02:09:38,610 --> 02:09:39,214
on

4599
02:09:39,214 --> 02:09:42,106
on our request to meet with the   mega-hospital committee

4600
02:09:42,106 --> 02:09:42,221
mega-hospital committee because   we need to really

4601
02:09:42,221 --> 02:09:45,279
we need to really know when are   we going to

4602
02:09:45,279 --> 02:09:45,386
we going to see shovels in the   ground

4603
02:09:45,386 --> 02:09:45,386
ground.

4604
02:09:45,386 --> 02:09:48,456
the other part or question I   have

4605
02:09:48,456 --> 02:09:52,715
have is, do we talk to our mpps

4606
02:09:52,715 --> 02:09:53,434
and

4607
02:09:53,434 --> 02:09:54,909
and what is our plan of   communication

4608
02:09:54,909 --> 02:09:57,311
communication with the city of   windsor and

4609
02:09:57,311 --> 02:09:57,418
windsor and the mpps?

4610
02:09:57,418 --> 02:10:00,431
with the rise in call volumes

4611
02:10:00,431 --> 02:10:00,485
I   don't

4612
02:10:00,485 --> 02:10:01,465
don't want anyone to be   blindsided

4613
02:10:01,465 --> 02:10:02,352
blindsided on future requests   for funding at

4614
02:10:02,352 --> 02:10:03,494
for funding at the provincial

4615
02:10:03,494 --> 02:10:03,545
level and

4616
02:10:03,545 --> 02:10:06,498
level and also the city of   windsor has

4617
02:10:06,498 --> 02:10:06,995
windsor has made it clear that

4618
02:10:06,995 --> 02:10:07,487
they want

4619
02:10:07,487 --> 02:10:09,889
they want to come in at a 0%   increase

4620
02:10:09,889 --> 02:10:10,767
increase and I don't know how   that is going to

4621
02:10:10,767 --> 02:10:10,876
that is going to impact us.

4622
02:10:10,876 --> 02:10:14,655
I know that we just send them

4623
02:10:14,655 --> 02:10:14,707
a   bill but we really

4624
02:10:14,707 --> 02:10:15,470
bill but we really need to have

4625
02:10:15,470 --> 02:10:16,076
all

4626
02:10:16,076 --> 02:10:16,836
all of these parties at the   table

4627
02:10:16,836 --> 02:10:18,746
table when we are talking about   ems because health care is

4628
02:10:18,746 --> 02:10:18,857
ems because health care is so   important

4629
02:10:18,857 --> 02:10:18,857
important.

4630
02:10:18,857 --> 02:10:24,164
my question is, what is the plan

4631
02:10:24,164 --> 02:10:24,603
to

4632
02:10:24,603 --> 02:10:25,315
to talk to the local mpps about

4633
02:10:25,315 --> 02:10:25,425
the rising calls

4634
02:10:25,425 --> 02:10:25,425
the rising calls?

4635
02:10:25,425 --> 02:10:34,497
>> for you, warden, we meet   regularly with

4636
02:10:34,497 --> 02:10:34,606
regularly with our mpps   particularly

4637
02:10:34,606 --> 02:10:38,166
particularly around innovative

4638
02:10:38,166 --> 02:10:38,384
opportunities

4639
02:10:38,384 --> 02:10:39,916
opportunities relatively cost

4640
02:10:39,916 --> 02:10:39,969
neutral to improve response
Times

4641
02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:39,969
neutral to improve response
Times

4642
02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:39,969
times.

4643
02:10:39,969 --> 02:10:42,377
again in my budget presentation

4644
02:10:42,377 --> 02:10:45,604
,   talking

4645
02:10:45,604 --> 02:10:46,092
talking about getting innovative

4646
02:10:46,092 --> 02:10:46,807
and

4647
02:10:46,807 --> 02:10:47,519
and not throwing resources that

4648
02:10:47,519 --> 02:10:47,630
something that is not working

4649
02:10:47,630 --> 02:10:47,686
something that is not working

4650
02:10:47,686 --> 02:10:47,686
the

4651
02:10:47,686 --> 02:10:51,238
the best so they are well   informed

4652
02:10:51,238 --> 02:10:52,548
informed on what the rising call   is, we

4653
02:10:52,548 --> 02:10:56,216
is, we have a delegation   requesting

4654
02:10:56,216 --> 02:10:56,378
requesting and we are connected   with

4655
02:10:56,378 --> 02:10:56,434
with them.

4656
02:10:56,434 --> 02:11:03,871
>> I would like to support more

4657
02:11:03,871 --> 02:11:04,686
training and I

4658
02:11:04,686 --> 02:11:06,107
training and I would like to   support the community programs
Coordinator

4659
02:11:06,107 --> 02:11:06,107
training and I would like to   support the community programs
Coordinator

4660
02:11:06,107 --> 02:11:09,064
coordinator at the very least   and

4661
02:11:09,064 --> 02:11:09,173
and if there was something else

4662
02:11:09,173 --> 02:11:09,278
that was high-priority

4663
02:11:09,278 --> 02:11:12,836
that was high-priority in the

4664
02:11:12,836 --> 02:11:12,889
ems I

4665
02:11:12,889 --> 02:11:13,333
ems I would like our chief to   bring it

4666
02:11:13,333 --> 02:11:14,920
bring it forward.

4667
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:16,609
we have the bare-bones option in

4668
02:11:16,609 --> 02:11:17,051
front of us and

4669
02:11:17,051 --> 02:11:18,414
front of us and then we can look

4670
02:11:18,414 --> 02:11:18,902
at the coordinator,

4671
02:11:18,902 --> 02:11:20,438
at the coordinator, extra   training and if there

4672
02:11:20,438 --> 02:11:20,988
training and if there is   anything else that is urgent

4673
02:11:20,988 --> 02:11:21,101
anything else that is urgent or   if

4674
02:11:21,101 --> 02:11:25,467
if something isn't passed   tonight, if something has

4675
02:11:25,467 --> 02:11:25,576
tonight, if something has to   come to

4676
02:11:25,576 --> 02:11:28,097
come to us they'd year to look   at again

4677
02:11:28,097 --> 02:11:29,681
at again I totally support that

4678
02:11:29,681 --> 02:11:29,681
.

4679
02:11:29,681 --> 02:11:32,137
since I have been on county   counsel I feel we have

4680
02:11:32,137 --> 02:11:36,078
counsel I feel we have truly   made notable

4681
02:11:36,078 --> 02:11:37,062
made notable gains in the   reduction

4682
02:11:37,062 --> 02:11:38,487
reduction of code red and black   and I want

4683
02:11:38,487 --> 02:11:38,597
and I want to keep going in that

4684
02:11:38,597 --> 02:11:40,071
direction

4685
02:11:40,071 --> 02:11:41,825
direction, I do not want to let

4686
02:11:41,825 --> 02:11:42,311
our foot

4687
02:11:42,311 --> 02:11:42,803
our foot off the pedal.

4688
02:11:42,803 --> 02:11:43,627
if we went to the greater   community and

4689
02:11:43,627 --> 02:11:44,720
community and said we're going   to

4690
02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:48,218
to have a 1% levy increase just   for ems

4691
02:11:48,218 --> 02:11:50,515
for ems alone and they knew that   that

4692
02:11:50,515 --> 02:11:52,106
that was directly going to help

4693
02:11:52,106 --> 02:11:53,249
code red

4694
02:11:53,249 --> 02:11:55,166
code red and cold black and help

4695
02:11:55,166 --> 02:11:55,385
with

4696
02:11:55,385 --> 02:11:57,025
with staff retention for ems,

4697
02:11:57,025 --> 02:11:57,077
I   I think

4698
02:11:57,077 --> 02:11:58,278
I think the community would   support

4699
02:11:58,278 --> 02:11:59,818
support that so I think we need   to

4700
02:11:59,818 --> 02:12:01,567
to figure out how we can further   support our ems

4701
02:12:01,567 --> 02:12:04,027
support our ems, our chief and

4702
02:12:04,027 --> 02:12:04,466
not

4703
02:12:04,466 --> 02:12:04,737
not just at the bare-bones level

4704
02:12:04,737 --> 02:12:04,847
  level.
Thank you

4705
02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:04,847
  level.
Thank you

4706
02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:04,847
thank you.

4707
02:12:04,847 --> 02:12:11,524
>> 3u, warden, if I can, we are   coming

4708
02:12:11,524 --> 02:12:12,233
coming up to collective   bargaining

4709
02:12:12,233 --> 02:12:14,029
bargaining in 2026 and we need   to

4710
02:12:14,029 --> 02:12:14,966
to be mindful of that and I want

4711
02:12:14,966 --> 02:12:15,238
to put that out there

4712
02:12:15,238 --> 02:12:15,238
to put that out there.

4713
02:12:15,238 --> 02:12:20,924
thank you.  >> anyone else

4714
02:12:20,924 --> 02:12:20,924
>> anyone else?

4715
02:12:20,924 --> 02:12:24,427
councillor rogers.  >> thank you, madam

4716
02:12:24,427 --> 02:12:26,006
>> thank you, madam warden.

4717
02:12:26,006 --> 02:12:29,348
to echo a few things going.  I have

4718
02:12:29,348 --> 02:12:31,322
I have seen this progression the   last year

4719
02:12:31,322 --> 02:12:36,459
last year or two and I think   this council

4720
02:12:36,459 --> 02:12:37,437
this council has made   significant investments in

4721
02:12:37,437 --> 02:12:37,822
significant investments in ems

4722
02:12:37,822 --> 02:12:37,822
.

4723
02:12:37,822 --> 02:12:39,848
I look at this budget alone and   we have

4724
02:12:39,848 --> 02:12:41,429
we have seven replacement   vehicles

4725
02:12:41,429 --> 02:12:46,249
vehicles, two brand-new vehicles

4726
02:12:46,249 --> 02:12:46,249
  vehicles.

4727
02:12:46,249 --> 02:12:46,249
  vehicles.

4728
02:12:46,249 --> 02:12:47,995
increase in the staff experience

4729
02:12:47,995 --> 02:12:48,266
  experience, code red

4730
02:12:48,266 --> 02:12:49,907
experience, code red, code black   go

4731
02:12:49,907 --> 02:12:53,796
go down, wait times go down, we

4732
02:12:53,796 --> 02:12:53,959
are making tremendous strides,

4733
02:12:53,959 --> 02:12:53,959
are making tremendous strides,

4734
02:12:53,959 --> 02:12:54,065
tremendous strides

4735
02:12:54,065 --> 02:12:57,186
tremendous strides and I can   support

4736
02:12:57,186 --> 02:12:59,587
support the additional training

4737
02:12:59,587 --> 02:13:00,577
hours,

4738
02:13:00,577 --> 02:13:01,829
hours, happy to add that and   happy

4739
02:13:01,829 --> 02:13:03,908
happy to support that, I think

4740
02:13:03,908 --> 02:13:03,966
beyond

4741
02:13:03,966 --> 02:13:05,716
beyond that, I want to be   mindful

4742
02:13:05,716 --> 02:13:07,578
mindful of the budget that we

4743
02:13:07,578 --> 02:13:07,578
have

4744
02:13:07,578 --> 02:13:08,831
have and the restrictions that   we

4745
02:13:08,831 --> 02:13:10,196
we have because again at the end

4746
02:13:10,196 --> 02:13:10,798
of the day, we have

4747
02:13:10,798 --> 02:13:10,912
of the day, we have made   significant investments

4748
02:13:10,912 --> 02:13:14,081
significant investments in our   ems and we

4749
02:13:14,081 --> 02:13:14,192
ems and we are making   significant

4750
02:13:14,192 --> 02:13:17,417
significant strides but the end

4751
02:13:17,417 --> 02:13:17,909
of the day

4752
02:13:17,909 --> 02:13:18,625
of the day, a budget that was

4753
02:13:18,625 --> 02:13:18,625
proposed

4754
02:13:18,625 --> 02:13:19,548
proposed for us to be able to   hit

4755
02:13:19,548 --> 02:13:22,998
hit our strategic priorities and

4756
02:13:22,998 --> 02:13:23,268
be able

4757
02:13:23,268 --> 02:13:23,482
be able to continue to hit our   service

4758
02:13:23,482 --> 02:13:26,440
service levels and continue to   move

4759
02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:26,551
move forward with our momentum,

4760
02:13:26,551 --> 02:13:26,659
I don't

4761
02:13:26,659 --> 02:13:30,047
I don't think any budget would   be

4762
02:13:30,047 --> 02:13:31,963
be put forward for us to take

4763
02:13:31,963 --> 02:13:31,963
steps

4764
02:13:31,963 --> 02:13:33,110
steps back and again I   appreciate

4765
02:13:33,110 --> 02:13:34,097
appreciate your comment over the   collective

4766
02:13:34,097 --> 02:13:34,586
collective bargaining because

4767
02:13:34,586 --> 02:13:34,586
again

4768
02:13:34,586 --> 02:13:36,011
again it's not so much about   this

4769
02:13:36,011 --> 02:13:36,231
this year but about the stuff

4770
02:13:36,231 --> 02:13:36,299
in   the

4771
02:13:36,299 --> 02:13:39,462
the future so I encourage this

4772
02:13:39,462 --> 02:13:40,058
council

4773
02:13:40,058 --> 02:13:40,659
council, we have to be mindful,

4774
02:13:40,659 --> 02:13:40,769
it's not an open

4775
02:13:40,769 --> 02:13:43,279
it's not an open pit.  We can't

4776
02:13:43,279 --> 02:13:44,270
we can't continue to fund what

4777
02:13:44,270 --> 02:13:44,490
we would love

4778
02:13:44,490 --> 02:13:45,689
we would love to, I would love   to be

4779
02:13:45,689 --> 02:13:47,386
to be able to pick at the local

4780
02:13:47,386 --> 02:13:48,048
level,

4781
02:13:48,048 --> 02:13:49,355
level, one artist things is   saying

4782
02:13:49,355 --> 02:13:50,607
saying no to the fire department   but

4783
02:13:50,607 --> 02:13:52,469
but there are times where you   have

4784
02:13:52,469 --> 02:13:53,681
have to trust in your team and

4785
02:13:53,681 --> 02:13:54,108
the leadership.

4786
02:13:54,108 --> 02:13:54,108
the leadership.

4787
02:13:54,108 --> 02:13:55,639
what do you need for this year   for us to

4788
02:13:55,639 --> 02:13:57,777
for us to carry the momentum and

4789
02:13:57,777 --> 02:13:58,216
I'm

4790
02:13:58,216 --> 02:13:59,690
I'm happy to support the   additional

4791
02:13:59,690 --> 02:14:00,401
additional training hours but

4792
02:14:00,401 --> 02:14:00,836
my   vote

4793
02:14:00,836 --> 02:14:01,217
vote will stop at that point.  Thank you

4794
02:14:01,217 --> 02:14:01,217
thank you.

4795
02:14:01,217 --> 02:14:04,502
>> thank you.

4796
02:14:04,502 --> 02:14:04,610
anyone else?

4797
02:14:04,610 --> 02:14:09,858
>> two questions for the chief

4798
02:14:09,858 --> 02:14:12,000
,   the

4799
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:12,378
the average age of our fleet is

4800
02:14:12,378 --> 02:14:12,491
now what

4801
02:14:12,491 --> 02:14:12,491
now what?

4802
02:14:12,491 --> 02:14:17,849
>> we are on a 60 replacement   cycles

4803
02:14:17,849 --> 02:14:20,139
cycles so it moves along every   year

4804
02:14:20,139 --> 02:14:20,139
year.  We

4805
02:14:20,139 --> 02:14:24,080
we don't keep them longer than   six years

4806
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:24,080
six years.

4807
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:25,392
we bought some six years ago and   are buying

4808
02:14:25,392 --> 02:14:26,932
are buying some this year so   it's a blend

4809
02:14:26,932 --> 02:14:26,932
it's a blend.

4810
02:14:26,932 --> 02:14:32,498
>> and of course we anticipate

4811
02:14:32,498 --> 02:14:32,612
just looking

4812
02:14:32,612 --> 02:14:38,407
just looking at inflation and   industrial costs

4813
02:14:38,407 --> 02:14:39,997
industrial costs, the prices   that

4814
02:14:39,997 --> 02:14:40,758
that we did pay before.

4815
02:14:40,758 --> 02:14:42,889
when you brought them forth   earlier

4816
02:14:42,889 --> 02:14:43,109
earlier, will most likely be   increased as

4817
02:14:43,109 --> 02:14:45,300
increased as well.  Is that something

4818
02:14:45,300 --> 02:14:45,413
is that something you are   anticipating

4819
02:14:45,413 --> 02:14:45,413
anticipating?

4820
02:14:45,413 --> 02:14:49,570
>> yes.  Everything is seeing inflation

4821
02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:49,570
everything is seeing inflation

4822
02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:49,570
-  inflation-related

4823
02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:50,607
inflation-related changes.

4824
02:14:50,607 --> 02:14:55,691
>> with the discussions we've   had

4825
02:14:55,691 --> 02:14:56,888
had about dispatching.  Do you see that

4826
02:14:56,888 --> 02:14:58,478
do you see that moving forward?

4827
02:14:58,478 --> 02:15:00,721
and do you see any substantive   changes

4828
02:15:00,721 --> 02:15:02,471
changes that can be saved to   your budget

4829
02:15:02,471 --> 02:15:03,889
your budget if the dispatching   proposals

4830
02:15:03,889 --> 02:15:06,078
proposals that we've disgust and

4831
02:15:06,078 --> 02:15:06,629
some of the

4832
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:06,743
some of the ideas you put forth   in

4833
02:15:06,743 --> 02:15:09,198
in this chamber forward?

4834
02:15:09,198 --> 02:15:13,110
>> we are seeing some movement

4835
02:15:13,110 --> 02:15:13,440
on the provincial

4836
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:13,986
on the provincial lens for   dispatch.
Again we

4837
02:15:13,986 --> 02:15:13,986
on the provincial lens for   dispatch.
Again we

4838
02:15:13,986 --> 02:15:17,709
again we are getting into pds   talking

4839
02:15:17,709 --> 02:15:19,243
talking to the counterparts   across the province it

4840
02:15:19,243 --> 02:15:20,003
across the province it makes a   big difference in

4841
02:15:20,003 --> 02:15:20,109
big difference in terms of   ambience availability

4842
02:15:20,109 --> 02:15:22,411
ambience availability, we are   not over

4843
02:15:22,411 --> 02:15:22,520
not over prioritizing as much in

4844
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:23,997
getting

4845
02:15:23,997 --> 02:15:25,198
getting more of an even cadence

4846
02:15:25,198 --> 02:15:26,350
of dispatching

4847
02:15:26,350 --> 02:15:26,350
of dispatching.  I

4848
02:15:26,350 --> 02:15:31,489
I do see that helping, I am   hearing

4849
02:15:31,489 --> 02:15:32,638
hearing signals that alternate

4850
02:15:32,638 --> 02:15:32,859
models

4851
02:15:32,859 --> 02:15:33,134
models of care within the   medication centre

4852
02:15:33,134 --> 02:15:33,239
medication centre are being   looked

4853
02:15:33,239 --> 02:15:36,409
looked at and in terms of those

4854
02:15:36,409 --> 02:15:37,941
operating and

4855
02:15:37,941 --> 02:15:41,608
operating and providing   oversight

4856
02:15:41,608 --> 02:15:41,880
oversight to the communication

4857
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:42,156
centre

4858
02:15:42,156 --> 02:15:42,373
centre, we continue to talk   about

4859
02:15:42,373 --> 02:15:43,909
about that.

4860
02:15:43,909 --> 02:15:46,802
I am not 100% convinced that   that

4861
02:15:46,802 --> 02:15:47,351
that will be anything palpable   but

4862
02:15:47,351 --> 02:15:50,850
but I do see the ministry is   listening and

4863
02:15:50,850 --> 02:15:51,998
listening and we are starting

4864
02:15:51,998 --> 02:15:52,050
to   see

4865
02:15:52,050 --> 02:15:53,637
see some changes so if we can

4866
02:15:53,637 --> 02:15:53,637
get

4867
02:15:53,637 --> 02:15:54,788
get smarter and how we dispatch,   we definitely can

4868
02:15:54,788 --> 02:15:57,249
we definitely can send a tahoe

4869
02:15:57,249 --> 02:15:57,578
instead

4870
02:15:57,578 --> 02:15:58,122
instead of an ambulance with two   paramedics

4871
02:15:58,122 --> 02:15:58,122
paramedics.

4872
02:15:58,122 --> 02:16:01,021
alternate model care   opportunities

4873
02:16:01,021 --> 02:16:02,221
opportunities in all of the   stuff the

4874
02:16:02,221 --> 02:16:03,530
stuff the team behind me is   looking at.

4875
02:16:03,530 --> 02:16:03,530
stuff the team behind me is   looking at.

4876
02:16:03,530 --> 02:16:06,923
the master plan gave a high   level

4877
02:16:06,923 --> 02:16:08,073
level of ceiling on what was   needed

4878
02:16:08,073 --> 02:16:08,073
needed.

4879
02:16:08,073 --> 02:16:09,655
I don't think we need all of   that

4880
02:16:09,655 --> 02:16:09,768
that.  I'll be honest.

4881
02:16:09,768 --> 02:16:09,768
that.  I'll be honest.

4882
02:16:09,768 --> 02:16:13,703
I appreciate the comments about   the

4883
02:16:13,703 --> 02:16:17,375
the bigger picture here.

4884
02:16:17,375 --> 02:16:18,518
we will continue pushing ahead

4885
02:16:18,518 --> 02:16:18,844
as a service

4886
02:16:18,844 --> 02:16:19,611
as a service and doing   everything

4887
02:16:19,611 --> 02:16:19,938
everything we can and being as   responsible

4888
02:16:19,938 --> 02:16:21,585
responsible as we can.  It does

4889
02:16:21,585 --> 02:16:24,102
it does not mean that we needed

4890
02:16:24,102 --> 02:16:24,368
all.

4891
02:16:24,368 --> 02:16:24,368
all.

4892
02:16:24,368 --> 02:16:26,127
I would rather have a little bit

4893
02:16:26,127 --> 02:16:26,628
  bit, put it

4894
02:16:26,628 --> 02:16:27,379
bit, put it in and see how it   goes and adjust again

4895
02:16:27,379 --> 02:16:27,379
goes and adjust again.

4896
02:16:27,379 --> 02:16:32,080
no significantly big changes.  The

4897
02:16:32,080 --> 02:16:33,721
the issue we do have is I am   losing space to

4898
02:16:33,721 --> 02:16:35,308
losing space to put these   vehicles

4899
02:16:35,308 --> 02:16:35,308
vehicles.

4900
02:16:35,308 --> 02:16:37,165
two more are coming in and they

4901
02:16:37,165 --> 02:16:37,216
are supposed to

4902
02:16:37,216 --> 02:16:40,501
are supposed to go and I do not   have the room to put

4903
02:16:40,501 --> 02:16:40,610
have the room to put those in   there

4904
02:16:40,610 --> 02:16:44,171
there so we have to figure all

4905
02:16:44,171 --> 02:16:44,440
of that out

4906
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:45,422
of that out and where these   trucks

4907
02:16:45,422 --> 02:16:46,191
trucks will go, that is part of   the bigger picture

4908
02:16:46,191 --> 02:16:46,191
the bigger picture.

4909
02:16:46,191 --> 02:16:50,563
>> thank you, madam warden.  >>

4910
02:16:50,563 --> 02:16:50,672
>> thank you.

4911
02:16:50,672 --> 02:16:54,499
councillor prue.  >>

4912
02:16:54,499 --> 02:16:57,235
>> a question, it seems like   there's a sufficient appetite

4913
02:16:57,235 --> 02:16:57,409
there's a sufficient appetite

4914
02:16:57,409 --> 02:16:57,461
here to add a

4915
02:16:57,461 --> 02:16:59,100
here to add a couple of things   in

4916
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:01,069
in here that are going to be   expensive

4917
02:17:01,069 --> 02:17:01,280
expensive.  I did hear

4918
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:03,913
I did hear one comment about the   hospital and how

4919
02:17:03,913 --> 02:17:07,847
hospital and how much we are   funding

4920
02:17:07,847 --> 02:17:08,779
funding which I think is   excessive

4921
02:17:08,779 --> 02:17:08,779
excessive.

4922
02:17:08,779 --> 02:17:11,674
could it be possible that if any   motions

4923
02:17:11,674 --> 02:17:11,947
motions are made that they be

4924
02:17:11,947 --> 02:17:11,999
contingent on

4925
02:17:11,999 --> 02:17:14,301
contingent on finding the   dollars from

4926
02:17:14,301 --> 02:17:18,890
dollars from other sources   whether it be the hospital

4927
02:17:18,890 --> 02:17:19,000
whether it be the hospital or   something else

4928
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:19,000
something else?

4929
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:21,851
I am reluctant to vote simply   for

4930
02:17:21,851 --> 02:17:24,692
for it and to raise the levy.

4931
02:17:24,692 --> 02:17:28,850
I want to put that up front.  If you can

4932
02:17:28,850 --> 02:17:28,962
if you can find some money   somewhere

4933
02:17:28,962 --> 02:17:32,237
somewhere else in the hospital

4934
02:17:32,237 --> 02:17:32,891
seems like a logical

4935
02:17:32,891 --> 02:17:34,103
seems like a logical one to many  many, a couple hundred

4936
02:17:34,103 --> 02:17:36,013
many, a couple hundred, 300, off

4937
02:17:36,013 --> 02:17:37,597
of that

4938
02:17:37,597 --> 02:17:44,492
of that to fund the ems, I would   certainly support

4939
02:17:44,492 --> 02:17:44,548
certainly support it.

4940
02:17:44,548 --> 02:17:47,552
if you can't, I have to say that   I

4941
02:17:47,552 --> 02:17:49,958
I would be reluctant to raise   the rate

4942
02:17:49,958 --> 02:17:53,621
the rate above 2.65.

4943
02:17:53,621 --> 02:17:54,553
>> duly noted.

4944
02:17:54,553 --> 02:18:01,989
did you want to speak to that   suggestion

4945
02:18:01,989 --> 02:18:01,989
suggestion?

4946
02:18:01,989 --> 02:18:03,742
>> if I could, please.  I

4947
02:18:03,742 --> 02:18:07,673
I agree with councillor prue.

4948
02:18:07,673 --> 02:18:09,204
if my colleagues would be   willing to

4949
02:18:09,204 --> 02:18:10,410
willing to approve each of these   items as

4950
02:18:10,410 --> 02:18:11,998
items as we go through it and

4951
02:18:11,998 --> 02:18:11,998
save

4952
02:18:11,998 --> 02:18:14,189
save -- or receive and approve

4953
02:18:14,189 --> 02:18:14,459
at the end so we

4954
02:18:14,459 --> 02:18:16,049
at the end so we can go through.

4955
02:18:16,049 --> 02:18:19,381
there are 26 items on this list

4956
02:18:19,381 --> 02:18:19,592
and I think

4957
02:18:19,592 --> 02:18:21,242
and I think it would be very   unfair

4958
02:18:21,242 --> 02:18:22,883
unfair to other departments if   we

4959
02:18:22,883 --> 02:18:24,359
we started approving these items

4960
02:18:24,359 --> 02:18:24,631
now without

4961
02:18:24,631 --> 02:18:26,218
now without going and hearing

4962
02:18:26,218 --> 02:18:26,218
the

4963
02:18:26,218 --> 02:18:27,250
the full presentation from   everyone.

4964
02:18:27,250 --> 02:18:27,250
the full presentation from   everyone.

4965
02:18:27,250 --> 02:18:28,892
I think we can ask the questions   now and

4966
02:18:28,892 --> 02:18:30,382
now and if we can make a list

4967
02:18:30,382 --> 02:18:30,434
of   the items that

4968
02:18:30,434 --> 02:18:32,018
the items that we want to   discuss

4969
02:18:32,018 --> 02:18:33,711
discuss at the end that maybe we   could

4970
02:18:33,711 --> 02:18:37,697
could find ways to adjust it,

4971
02:18:37,697 --> 02:18:37,749
whether it's coming from another
Thing

4972
02:18:37,749 --> 02:18:37,749
whether it's coming from another
Thing

4973
02:18:37,749 --> 02:18:41,803
thing like the hospital but some   of these items

4974
02:18:41,803 --> 02:18:42,464
of these items are one time   funded

4975
02:18:42,464 --> 02:18:43,222
funded capital items in some of   these

4976
02:18:43,222 --> 02:18:45,576
these items are operating   continuation

4977
02:18:45,576 --> 02:18:46,780
continuation and I would love

4978
02:18:46,780 --> 02:18:47,000
if   we

4979
02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:48,469
we could have a discussion at   the end

4980
02:18:48,469 --> 02:18:50,443
the end that would see us   discuss those

4981
02:18:50,443 --> 02:18:51,644
discuss those 26 items instead

4982
02:18:51,644 --> 02:18:51,971
of trying to

4983
02:18:51,971 --> 02:18:52,191
of trying to piecemeal it   together

4984
02:18:52,191 --> 02:18:55,362
together through the budget   session if my fellow councillors

4985
02:18:55,362 --> 02:18:55,362
session if my fellow councillors

4986
02:18:55,362 --> 02:18:55,473
would agree to

4987
02:18:55,473 --> 02:18:56,950
would agree to that.

4988
02:18:56,950 --> 02:19:15,822
>> I just checked with the clerk

4989
02:19:15,822 --> 02:19:15,822
  clerk,

4990
02:19:15,822 --> 02:19:17,457
clerk, that can be a resolution

4991
02:19:17,457 --> 02:19:17,565
that is made and

4992
02:19:17,565 --> 02:19:17,677
that is made and council will   vote on

4993
02:19:17,677 --> 02:19:24,894
vote on that so let me go to   councillor verbeke

4994
02:19:24,894 --> 02:19:25,884
councillor verbeke and then we

4995
02:19:25,884 --> 02:19:25,994
will open the

4996
02:19:25,994 --> 02:19:26,159
will open the floor.

4997
02:19:26,159 --> 02:19:28,229
I was looking because of the   comments

4998
02:19:28,229 --> 02:19:30,251
comments made, I was looking at   bringing

4999
02:19:30,251 --> 02:19:32,006
bringing up individual ones that   were

5000
02:19:32,006 --> 02:19:32,882
were mentioned such as the   additional

5001
02:19:32,882 --> 02:19:33,480
additional training hours as   separate

5002
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:33,480
separate.

5003
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:39,772
as separate motions as well as   the coordinator as

5004
02:19:39,772 --> 02:19:41,361
the coordinator as a separate

5005
02:19:41,361 --> 02:19:41,361
motion

5006
02:19:41,361 --> 02:19:43,871
motion and then the motion to

5007
02:19:43,871 --> 02:19:43,871
receive

5008
02:19:43,871 --> 02:19:45,733
receive but if you want to add,

5009
02:19:45,733 --> 02:19:45,785
we will come

5010
02:19:45,785 --> 02:19:48,522
we will come to you but it has   to be

5011
02:19:48,522 --> 02:19:49,068
to be a decision of council.

5012
02:19:49,068 --> 02:19:55,026
if they want to receive and   approve

5013
02:19:55,026 --> 02:19:55,305
approve or just receive at this   point in time

5014
02:19:55,305 --> 02:19:55,305
point in time.

5015
02:19:55,305 --> 02:19:57,226
are you good with that?

5016
02:19:57,226 --> 02:19:59,463
okay, thank you.

5017
02:19:59,463 --> 02:20:03,072
councillor verbeke.  >> thank you.

5018
02:20:03,072 --> 02:20:03,072
councillor verbeke.  >> thank you.

5019
02:20:03,072 --> 02:20:03,126
great report.

5020
02:20:03,126 --> 02:20:06,784
I will go to melissa now.  The business

5021
02:20:06,784 --> 02:20:10,505
the business case, is that all

5022
02:20:10,505 --> 02:20:10,611
included in

5023
02:20:10,611 --> 02:20:15,214
included in this 2.65 of the   budget

5024
02:20:15,214 --> 02:20:15,214
budget?

5025
02:20:15,214 --> 02:20:16,321
>> no.  These are items

5026
02:20:16,321 --> 02:20:16,372
these are items that   administratively

5027
02:20:16,372 --> 02:20:19,640
administratively we put on that

5028
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:19,971
list

5029
02:20:19,971 --> 02:20:20,733
list and did not include them in   the

5030
02:20:20,733 --> 02:20:23,083
the proposed budget but allowing   council to bring

5031
02:20:23,083 --> 02:20:23,192
council to bring it back in.

5032
02:20:23,192 --> 02:20:26,695
>> I see this as more of a needs

5033
02:20:26,695 --> 02:20:28,170
list

5034
02:20:28,170 --> 02:20:31,068
list than a want list so I think   we should

5035
02:20:31,068 --> 02:20:33,146
we should get them all if you've

5036
02:20:33,146 --> 02:20:34,621
had

5037
02:20:34,621 --> 02:20:38,070
had any dealings with ems, if   the

5038
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:38,285
the mechanic is gone, we can't   fix

5039
02:20:38,285 --> 02:20:41,893
fix it and I believe that all of   these

5040
02:20:41,893 --> 02:20:42,390
these positions should be filled  filled.

5041
02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:42,390
these positions should be filled  filled.

5042
02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:42,772
I don't care where you get the

5043
02:20:42,772 --> 02:20:42,831
money

5044
02:20:42,831 --> 02:20:46,331
money from but it has to be   filled

5045
02:20:46,331 --> 02:20:46,331
filled.

5046
02:20:46,331 --> 02:20:53,493
>> councillor gibb.  >>

5047
02:20:53,493 --> 02:20:53,813
>> one more clarifying question

5048
02:20:53,813 --> 02:20:53,922
,   when we look

5049
02:20:53,922 --> 02:20:55,521
when we look at these numbers,

5050
02:20:55,521 --> 02:20:57,159
the

5051
02:20:57,159 --> 02:20:58,413
the estimated cost for the   community program

5052
02:20:58,413 --> 02:20:58,523
community program coordinate her   at

5053
02:20:58,523 --> 02:21:04,325
at 121467 and the additional   training hours,

5054
02:21:04,325 --> 02:21:06,284
training hours, 19935, are those

5055
02:21:06,284 --> 02:21:07,763
numbers

5056
02:21:07,763 --> 02:21:11,104
numbers half of the cost or is   that

5057
02:21:11,104 --> 02:21:12,744
that the full cost but the levy

5058
02:21:12,744 --> 02:21:14,275
will be

5059
02:21:14,275 --> 02:21:15,359
will be charged back if I can   use

5060
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:17,172
use that term, by the city?

5061
02:21:17,172 --> 02:21:21,492
>> yes, the list does include   the

5062
02:21:21,492 --> 02:21:26,578
the total cost of that asked,

5063
02:21:26,578 --> 02:21:26,633
however, in

5064
02:21:26,633 --> 02:21:27,284
however, in ems we always they

5065
02:21:27,284 --> 02:21:27,566
know

5066
02:21:27,566 --> 02:21:29,033
know their funding formula is a   little difference

5067
02:21:29,033 --> 02:21:30,573
little difference over the first   year it would be

5068
02:21:30,573 --> 02:21:30,787
year it would be 50% of that   cost

5069
02:21:30,787 --> 02:21:34,400
cost, for the coordinate her   position it

5070
02:21:34,400 --> 02:21:36,474
position it will be about 65,504   the

5071
02:21:36,474 --> 02:21:37,245
the training dollars it would   about

5072
02:21:37,245 --> 02:21:38,876
about $100,000, levy dollars.

5073
02:21:38,876 --> 02:21:45,003
>> further to that, doesn't the   provincial

5074
02:21:45,003 --> 02:21:45,113
provincial funding then come in

5075
02:21:45,113 --> 02:21:45,171
afterwards

5076
02:21:45,171 --> 02:21:45,171
afterwards.

5077
02:21:45,171 --> 02:21:50,813
>> through you, warden, it would   come in

5078
02:21:50,813 --> 02:21:52,449
come in but not until 2027 so   how

5079
02:21:52,449 --> 02:21:53,425
how we budget is to incorporate   that

5080
02:21:53,425 --> 02:21:54,195
that in the first year so that   we

5081
02:21:54,195 --> 02:21:54,301
we cover ourselves.

5082
02:21:54,301 --> 02:22:05,786
>> just a question, in terms of   the

5083
02:22:05,786 --> 02:22:08,084
the positions, I know you gave a   lot of thought

5084
02:22:08,084 --> 02:22:08,194
lot of thought to coordinating   and explaining

5085
02:22:08,194 --> 02:22:11,257
and explaining the key   responsibilities

5086
02:22:11,257 --> 02:22:12,673
responsibilities but I'm   wondering if there was any

5087
02:22:12,673 --> 02:22:12,784
wondering if there was any   opportunity to

5088
02:22:12,784 --> 02:22:14,811
opportunity to look at sharing

5089
02:22:14,811 --> 02:22:16,945
,   additional training

5090
02:22:16,945 --> 02:22:19,135
additional training hours, are   you able to

5091
02:22:19,135 --> 02:22:22,743
you able to talk to chatham-kent   and coordinate

5092
02:22:22,743 --> 02:22:25,913
and coordinate training and   facilitate that that is

5093
02:22:25,913 --> 02:22:25,971
facilitate that that is   mandatory

5094
02:22:25,971 --> 02:22:30,842
mandatory or whatnot or through   st. Clair college

5095
02:22:30,842 --> 02:22:30,895
st. Clair college and partnering   with them

5096
02:22:30,895 --> 02:22:31,053
with them and having an   individual

5097
02:22:31,053 --> 02:22:34,663
individual and I don't know if   that

5098
02:22:34,663 --> 02:22:35,644
that is even possible but they

5099
02:22:35,644 --> 02:22:36,852
are a great partner

5100
02:22:36,852 --> 02:22:37,283
are a great partner with ems in   terms

5101
02:22:37,283 --> 02:22:38,880
terms of that education   component

5102
02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:41,172
component but I too agree that

5103
02:22:41,172 --> 02:22:42,425
we should

5104
02:22:42,425 --> 02:22:43,852
we should look at these   positions, obviously

5105
02:22:43,852 --> 02:22:44,231
positions, obviously they are

5106
02:22:44,231 --> 02:22:44,283
here for a reason and

5107
02:22:44,283 --> 02:22:44,392
here for a reason and the need   is

5108
02:22:44,392 --> 02:22:45,001
is there.

5109
02:22:45,001 --> 02:22:50,631
but looking at the budget   overview in

5110
02:22:50,631 --> 02:22:52,223
overview in terms of ranked   positions,

5111
02:22:52,223 --> 02:22:54,192
positions, I kind of agree with

5112
02:22:54,192 --> 02:22:57,846
councilllor meloche in

5113
02:22:57,846 --> 02:22:58,834
councilllor meloche in terms of   waiting until

5114
02:22:58,834 --> 02:22:59,772
waiting until the end and coming

5115
02:22:59,772 --> 02:23:00,253
back and seeing what

5116
02:23:00,253 --> 02:23:00,584
back and seeing what impact it   has on the

5117
02:23:00,584 --> 02:23:02,665
has on the overall budget versus   doing them now

5118
02:23:02,665 --> 02:23:04,634
doing them now one by one so I

5119
02:23:04,634 --> 02:23:05,287
do like

5120
02:23:05,287 --> 02:23:06,166
do like to keep an open mind on   these positions but

5121
02:23:06,166 --> 02:23:07,803
these positions but just a   question

5122
02:23:07,803 --> 02:23:10,428
question if there is any ability   if we

5123
02:23:10,428 --> 02:23:12,564
if we only choose 2 and there

5124
02:23:12,564 --> 02:23:12,564
are

5125
02:23:12,564 --> 02:23:14,583
are five not chosen, are you   able

5126
02:23:14,583 --> 02:23:14,857
able to somehow still be able

5127
02:23:14,857 --> 02:23:16,392
to   offer

5128
02:23:16,392 --> 02:23:18,801
offer -- the purpose is relevant

5129
02:23:18,801 --> 02:23:20,488
and I don't want

5130
02:23:20,488 --> 02:23:20,604
and I don't want us to not see   it

5131
02:23:20,604 --> 02:23:23,559
it happen that is there any way   that

5132
02:23:23,559 --> 02:23:26,231
that through partnerships you

5133
02:23:26,231 --> 02:23:26,283
could probably

5134
02:23:26,283 --> 02:23:28,365
could probably arrange some of   those

5135
02:23:28,365 --> 02:23:29,896
those responsibilities in a   different

5136
02:23:29,896 --> 02:23:29,952
different format?

5137
02:23:29,952 --> 02:23:35,476
>> through you, warden, the   training hours, to be

5138
02:23:35,476 --> 02:23:37,942
training hours, to be clear is

5139
02:23:37,942 --> 02:23:38,642
the wage

5140
02:23:38,642 --> 02:23:39,631
the wage is required to get to   pay

5141
02:23:39,631 --> 02:23:41,597
pay the employee to take the   training.

5142
02:23:41,597 --> 02:23:41,597
pay the employee to take the   training.

5143
02:23:41,597 --> 02:23:42,475
the majority of our staff are   front line paramedics

5144
02:23:42,475 --> 02:23:44,937
front line paramedics and they

5145
02:23:44,937 --> 02:23:45,423
are on the

5146
02:23:45,423 --> 02:23:46,082
are on the road and it's   difficult

5147
02:23:46,082 --> 02:23:47,064
difficult to pull them off the

5148
02:23:47,064 --> 02:23:47,782
road

5149
02:23:47,782 --> 02:23:48,547
road to do training obviously

5150
02:23:48,547 --> 02:23:48,599
based on

5151
02:23:48,599 --> 02:23:49,256
based on their environment so   they are doing

5152
02:23:49,256 --> 02:23:50,895
they are doing it on their days   off

5153
02:23:50,895 --> 02:23:55,547
off so to coordinate with   systems

5154
02:23:55,547 --> 02:23:56,256
systems partners, chatham-kent

5155
02:23:56,256 --> 02:23:57,021
,   st. Clair, we have

5156
02:23:57,021 --> 02:23:57,677
st. Clair, we have great   relationships

5157
02:23:57,677 --> 02:23:58,224
relationships with all of them   and sometimes

5158
02:23:58,224 --> 02:23:58,444
and sometimes we can save on the   cost

5159
02:23:58,444 --> 02:24:02,269
cost of getting someone to   deliver content

5160
02:24:02,269 --> 02:24:03,036
deliver content but having   someone sit

5161
02:24:03,036 --> 02:24:03,365
someone sit through that content   is where the

5162
02:24:03,365 --> 02:24:04,300
is where the expense comes in.

5163
02:24:04,300 --> 02:24:04,300


5164
02:24:04,300 --> 02:24:11,194
the rest of the positions, it

5165
02:24:11,194 --> 02:24:11,245
would be

5166
02:24:11,245 --> 02:24:12,722
would be difficult for the   commander

5167
02:24:12,722 --> 02:24:13,643
commander of operations,   communications

5168
02:24:13,643 --> 02:24:13,755
communications officer, all it   is

5169
02:24:13,755 --> 02:24:16,710
is doing is continuing to stress   the system that

5170
02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:18,300
the system that is already there

5171
02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:20,216
and not able to

5172
02:24:20,216 --> 02:24:20,268
and not able to help support the

5173
02:24:20,268 --> 02:24:20,320
capacity

5174
02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:22,074
capacity of those positions.  >> thank you

5175
02:24:22,074 --> 02:24:22,074
>> thank you.

5176
02:24:22,074 --> 02:24:26,666
>> anyone else?

5177
02:24:26,666 --> 02:24:26,666
okay.

5178
02:24:26,666 --> 02:24:32,675
we are going to figure out how   to do this individually

5179
02:24:32,675 --> 02:24:32,785
to do this individually since   there seems to be

5180
02:24:32,785 --> 02:24:35,635
there seems to be -- councillor   deyong,

5181
02:24:35,635 --> 02:24:36,022
deyong, comment?

5182
02:24:36,022 --> 02:24:38,034
>> I will throw my two cents in,   I

5183
02:24:38,034 --> 02:24:39,462
I would like to make a motion   that we

5184
02:24:39,462 --> 02:24:40,776
that we receive and then discuss   all

5185
02:24:40,776 --> 02:24:42,032
all of these things at the end

5186
02:24:42,032 --> 02:24:42,634
when we've had

5187
02:24:42,634 --> 02:24:42,956
when we've had a chance to   digest the rest

5188
02:24:42,956 --> 02:24:44,549
digest the rest of the budget.

5189
02:24:44,549 --> 02:24:46,462
>> comment

5190
02:24:46,462 --> 02:24:47,994
>> comment first then?

5191
02:24:47,994 --> 02:24:48,535
a comment or no?

5192
02:24:48,535 --> 02:24:54,112
>> that is my comment.  That

5193
02:24:54,112 --> 02:24:57,395
that I'm supportive of us   receiving this

5194
02:24:57,395 --> 02:24:58,275
receiving this for now.  >> you

5195
02:24:58,275 --> 02:24:58,712
>> you are making the motion to   receive?
>>

5196
02:24:58,712 --> 02:24:58,712
>> you are making the motion to   receive?
>>

5197
02:24:58,712 --> 02:24:58,712
>> sure.

5198
02:24:58,712 --> 02:25:00,409
>> okay.

5199
02:25:00,409 --> 02:25:05,271
councillor deyong is making the

5200
02:25:05,271 --> 02:25:05,763
motion

5201
02:25:05,763 --> 02:25:08,005
motion that the presentation for   the

5202
02:25:08,005 --> 02:25:09,103
the proposed 2026 essex-windsor   emergency service

5203
02:25:09,103 --> 02:25:10,687
emergency service budget be   received

5204
02:25:10,687 --> 02:25:14,625
received and further that the

5205
02:25:14,625 --> 02:25:14,677
2026 budget

5206
02:25:14,677 --> 02:25:15,223
2026 budget estimates for   essex-windsor

5207
02:25:15,223 --> 02:25:15,336
essex-windsor emergency medical   services be

5208
02:25:15,336 --> 02:25:15,394
services be received.

5209
02:25:15,394 --> 02:25:20,697
that is moved by councillor   deyong.
Looking

5210
02:25:20,697 --> 02:25:20,697
that is moved by councillor   deyong.
Looking

5211
02:25:20,697 --> 02:25:20,805
looking for a seconder.

5212
02:25:20,805 --> 02:25:22,884
councilllor meloche.

5213
02:25:22,884 --> 02:25:30,645
we will wait for that to get on   the

5214
02:25:30,645 --> 02:25:32,286
the board and then we will be   voting

5215
02:25:32,286 --> 02:25:33,874
voting electronically, please.

5216
02:25:33,874 --> 02:25:37,865
councillor gibb.

5217
02:25:37,865 --> 02:25:40,381
sorry, I did not open the floor

5218
02:25:40,381 --> 02:25:40,553
to

5219
02:25:40,553 --> 02:25:41,256
to questions.  >> that

5220
02:25:41,256 --> 02:25:41,800
>> that is all right.

5221
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:42,409
I will push my way onto the   floor

5222
02:25:42,409 --> 02:25:42,409
floor.

5223
02:25:42,409 --> 02:25:47,332
just so that I can understand

5224
02:25:47,332 --> 02:25:47,332
this

5225
02:25:47,332 --> 02:25:48,146
this correctly, we will receive   and

5226
02:25:48,146 --> 02:25:50,117
and then when we get to the end

5227
02:25:50,117 --> 02:25:50,228
of the day

5228
02:25:50,228 --> 02:25:54,276
of the day, at 9:30 tonight or   hopefully earlier

5229
02:25:54,276 --> 02:25:54,276
hopefully earlier.

5230
02:25:54,276 --> 02:25:57,332
come on.  A

5231
02:25:57,332 --> 02:25:57,445
a little levity.

5232
02:25:57,445 --> 02:26:01,487
then we will discuss the   individual items,

5233
02:26:01,487 --> 02:26:01,553
individual items, correct?

5234
02:26:01,553 --> 02:26:08,051
>> that is how I am   understanding it

5235
02:26:08,051 --> 02:26:09,035
understanding it so that is what   I

5236
02:26:09,035 --> 02:26:10,787
I believe an imc knots from the   mover and the

5237
02:26:10,787 --> 02:26:10,844
mover and the seconder.

5238
02:26:10,844 --> 02:26:15,386
I had someone else's hand up.  >>

5239
02:26:15,386 --> 02:26:16,204
>> I will get there.

5240
02:26:16,204 --> 02:26:17,515
I thought there was still   someone

5241
02:26:17,515 --> 02:26:19,163
someone here who I had seen   first.

5242
02:26:19,163 --> 02:26:19,163
someone here who I had seen   first.

5243
02:26:19,163 --> 02:26:22,603
councillor bailey, you are up.

5244
02:26:22,603 --> 02:26:22,816
>>

5245
02:26:22,816 --> 02:26:24,625
>> thank you, warden, I think

5246
02:26:24,625 --> 02:26:24,676
that you had

5247
02:26:24,676 --> 02:26:26,428
that you had it right in the   first place because

5248
02:26:26,428 --> 02:26:26,645
first place because we have the   opportunity

5249
02:26:26,645 --> 02:26:28,233
opportunity right now to receive

5250
02:26:28,233 --> 02:26:29,556
and

5251
02:26:29,556 --> 02:26:31,408
and approve what is before us

5252
02:26:31,408 --> 02:26:31,461
in   the budget

5253
02:26:31,461 --> 02:26:32,664
the budget that has been   requested

5254
02:26:32,664 --> 02:26:33,756
requested and there is nothing   stopping us later for

5255
02:26:33,756 --> 02:26:33,866
stopping us later for making a

5256
02:26:33,866 --> 02:26:35,286
motion and adding

5257
02:26:35,286 --> 02:26:37,371
motion and adding in I would   like to make

5258
02:26:37,371 --> 02:26:38,954
like to make a motion to add in

5259
02:26:38,954 --> 02:26:39,943
item

5260
02:26:39,943 --> 02:26:40,106
item number blah, blah, blah for

5261
02:26:40,106 --> 02:26:41,686
position

5262
02:26:41,686 --> 02:26:43,001
position whatever and for us to

5263
02:26:43,001 --> 02:26:43,818
prove that

5264
02:26:43,818 --> 02:26:45,414
prove that so I think to   continue

5265
02:26:45,414 --> 02:26:46,662
continue with the momentum of   our budget

5266
02:26:46,662 --> 02:26:47,535
our budget I would prefer to do   it the

5267
02:26:47,535 --> 02:26:50,332
it the way that you stated in

5268
02:26:50,332 --> 02:26:50,385
that we have

5269
02:26:50,385 --> 02:26:51,755
that we have already moved   through,

5270
02:26:51,755 --> 02:26:52,133
through, we have approved our   sections,

5271
02:26:52,133 --> 02:26:53,776
sections, we will come back to

5272
02:26:53,776 --> 02:26:54,318
the wish list

5273
02:26:54,318 --> 02:26:57,334
the wish list at the end but   recognizing

5274
02:26:57,334 --> 02:26:59,469
recognizing that there are 26   positions on

5275
02:26:59,469 --> 02:26:59,683
positions on there, they   represent

5276
02:26:59,683 --> 02:27:03,180
represent 4% on the budget,   certainly anybody

5277
02:27:03,180 --> 02:27:03,783
certainly anybody could move   those

5278
02:27:03,783 --> 02:27:04,384
those items forward should they

5279
02:27:04,384 --> 02:27:04,552
want

5280
02:27:04,552 --> 02:27:06,186
want to but in the meantime we

5281
02:27:06,186 --> 02:27:07,006
have a

5282
02:27:07,006 --> 02:27:08,213
have a budget presented and   vetted

5283
02:27:08,213 --> 02:27:09,414
vetted by administration that I

5284
02:27:09,414 --> 02:27:09,847
would really

5285
02:27:09,847 --> 02:27:10,784
would really like to see get   received,

5286
02:27:10,784 --> 02:27:11,985
received, approved and we can

5287
02:27:11,985 --> 02:27:11,985
come

5288
02:27:11,985 --> 02:27:12,696
come back and make new motions   for other

5289
02:27:12,696 --> 02:27:14,117
for other wish list items as the   day

5290
02:27:14,117 --> 02:27:15,055
day unfolds.

5291
02:27:15,055 --> 02:27:21,665
>> councillor deyong.  >> thank you

5292
02:27:21,665 --> 02:27:21,665
>> thank you.  Looking

5293
02:27:21,665 --> 02:27:22,924
looking for clarity.

5294
02:27:22,924 --> 02:27:23,967
I have no problems with what   councillor bailey

5295
02:27:23,967 --> 02:27:26,039
councillor bailey just said but

5296
02:27:26,039 --> 02:27:27,411
if

5297
02:27:27,411 --> 02:27:28,614
if we are approving the ems   budget

5298
02:27:28,614 --> 02:27:29,979
budget then we don't need a   motion to reconsider

5299
02:27:29,979 --> 02:27:31,287
motion to reconsider to open up

5300
02:27:31,287 --> 02:27:31,565
the

5301
02:27:31,565 --> 02:27:32,559
the ems budget to add something

5302
02:27:32,559 --> 02:27:33,039
to the

5303
02:27:33,039 --> 02:27:33,756
to the ems budget.  I'm

5304
02:27:33,756 --> 02:27:34,896
I'm looking for clarity from   administration, thank you

5305
02:27:34,896 --> 02:27:34,896
administration, thank you.

5306
02:27:34,896 --> 02:27:43,218
>> madam clerk, I am looking to   you.
>> that

5307
02:27:43,218 --> 02:27:43,218
>> madam clerk, I am looking to   you.
>> that

5308
02:27:43,218 --> 02:27:43,757
>> that is correct.  He would

5309
02:27:43,757 --> 02:27:46,984
he would not need a motion to

5310
02:27:46,984 --> 02:27:46,984
add

5311
02:27:46,984 --> 02:27:47,479
add a supplementary item to the

5312
02:27:47,479 --> 02:27:47,588
already approved

5313
02:27:47,588 --> 02:27:51,034
already approved budget for a

5314
02:27:51,034 --> 02:27:51,087
particular department so if
Council

5315
02:27:51,087 --> 02:27:51,087
particular department so if
Council

5316
02:27:51,087 --> 02:27:55,081
council wishes to approve the

5317
02:27:55,081 --> 02:27:55,133
budget for ems as

5318
02:27:55,133 --> 02:27:55,241
budget for ems as it's written

5319
02:27:55,241 --> 02:27:56,725
right

5320
02:27:56,725 --> 02:27:59,565
right now at this interval and

5321
02:27:59,565 --> 02:28:00,599
then revisit additional

5322
02:28:00,599 --> 02:28:00,765
then revisit additional   supplementary

5323
02:28:00,765 --> 02:28:03,226
supplementary items for this   department and/or

5324
02:28:03,226 --> 02:28:03,998
department and/or other   departments

5325
02:28:03,998 --> 02:28:04,979
departments before the final   budget approval is done

5326
02:28:04,979 --> 02:28:06,566
budget approval is done later

5327
02:28:06,566 --> 02:28:06,566
today

5328
02:28:06,566 --> 02:28:06,833
today, that is also fine.

5329
02:28:06,833 --> 02:28:11,647
>> a councillor deyong.  >>

5330
02:28:11,647 --> 02:28:12,856
>> I have no problem with that

5331
02:28:12,856 --> 02:28:12,856
.

5332
02:28:12,856 --> 02:28:13,727
I am fine to improve this and   discuss

5333
02:28:13,727 --> 02:28:16,131
discuss this.  >> you are changing

5334
02:28:16,131 --> 02:28:16,242
>> you are changing your motion   to

5335
02:28:16,242 --> 02:28:20,948
to receive and approve?

5336
02:28:20,948 --> 02:28:25,165
I am looking to the secondary.

5337
02:28:25,165 --> 02:28:26,743
okay, that changes the motion to   be received and

5338
02:28:26,743 --> 02:28:26,795
be received and approved.

5339
02:28:26,795 --> 02:28:38,117
and we are looking to vote   electronically

5340
02:28:38,117 --> 02:28:38,117
electronically.

5341
02:28:38,117 --> 02:28:57,149
and that is carried, thank you

5342
02:28:57,149 --> 02:28:59,117
.  Thank you, chief

5343
02:28:59,117 --> 02:28:59,117
thank you, chief.

5344
02:28:59,117 --> 02:29:05,897
next up, we have budget for   infrastructure and

5345
02:29:05,897 --> 02:29:05,955
infrastructure and planning.

5346
02:29:05,955 --> 02:29:15,524
pause for one moment.  We are debating

5347
02:29:15,524 --> 02:29:15,584
we are debating lunch.

5348
02:29:15,584 --> 02:29:18,315
>> what a lovely debate.

5349
02:29:18,315 --> 02:29:37,016
lunch lost so we are going to

5350
02:29:37,016 --> 02:29:37,179
go   on to infrastructure

5351
02:29:37,179 --> 02:29:37,839
on to infrastructure and   planning

5352
02:29:37,839 --> 02:29:39,036
planning services and for that

5353
02:29:39,036 --> 02:29:39,368
we have

5354
02:29:39,368 --> 02:29:39,588
we have our director of   infrastructure and

5355
02:29:39,588 --> 02:29:41,176
infrastructure and planning   services

5356
02:29:41,176 --> 02:29:45,061
services as well as rebecca, our   manager

5357
02:29:45,061 --> 02:29:46,205
manager planning services to   present

5358
02:29:46,205 --> 02:29:46,920
present the 2026 budget.

5359
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:48,555
over to you.

5360
02:29:48,555 --> 02:29:48,663
for their department.

5361
02:29:48,663 --> 02:30:06,168
>> thank you, warden and council

5362
02:30:06,168 --> 02:30:06,168
  council.

5363
02:30:06,168 --> 02:30:06,168
  council.

5364
02:30:06,168 --> 02:30:09,008
too many laptops appear at the   moment

5365
02:30:09,008 --> 02:30:09,008
moment.

5366
02:30:09,008 --> 02:30:20,607
thank you.

5367
02:30:20,607 --> 02:30:21,710
the infrastructure and planning   services department

5368
02:30:21,710 --> 02:30:21,818
services department plays a   vital

5369
02:30:21,818 --> 02:30:26,198
vital role in shaping and   supporting

5370
02:30:26,198 --> 02:30:26,309
supporting our communities as   committed

5371
02:30:26,309 --> 02:30:29,168
committed to maintaining and   enhancing the county

5372
02:30:29,168 --> 02:30:29,225
enhancing the county   infrastructure

5373
02:30:29,225 --> 02:30:30,911
infrastructure and the built   environment

5374
02:30:30,911 --> 02:30:30,911
environment.

5375
02:30:30,911 --> 02:30:36,381
we do this by building reliable   infrastructure

5376
02:30:36,381 --> 02:30:36,928
infrastructure, developing and   applying responsible

5377
02:30:36,928 --> 02:30:38,516
applying responsible planning

5378
02:30:38,516 --> 02:30:38,516
policy

5379
02:30:38,516 --> 02:30:39,451
policy and effective asset   management

5380
02:30:39,451 --> 02:30:39,451
management.

5381
02:30:39,451 --> 02:30:46,066
my team knows and understands

5382
02:30:46,066 --> 02:30:46,117
the goals and directions

5383
02:30:46,117 --> 02:30:46,231
the goals and directions of the

5384
02:30:46,231 --> 02:30:47,707
county

5385
02:30:47,707 --> 02:30:49,179
county.  They understand

5386
02:30:49,179 --> 02:30:49,288
they understand the   contributions they make

5387
02:30:49,288 --> 02:30:49,399
contributions they make as   individuals

5388
02:30:49,399 --> 02:30:51,692
individuals and they know and   understand

5389
02:30:51,692 --> 02:30:54,651
understand how their efforts   contribute to the

5390
02:30:54,651 --> 02:30:54,757
contribute to the overall   success of

5391
02:30:54,757 --> 02:30:58,588
success of our department, the   the county,

5392
02:30:58,588 --> 02:30:59,518
the county, our residence and

5393
02:30:59,518 --> 02:30:59,569
our businesses

5394
02:30:59,569 --> 02:31:00,561
our businesses and I am very   proud of each

5395
02:31:00,561 --> 02:31:00,667
proud of each and every one of   them

5396
02:31:00,667 --> 02:31:00,667
them.

5397
02:31:00,667 --> 02:31:06,082
it is not easy, my management

5398
02:31:06,082 --> 02:31:06,135
team faces challenges almost

5399
02:31:06,135 --> 02:31:07,779
team faces challenges almost   every day.

5400
02:31:07,779 --> 02:31:07,779
team faces challenges almost   every day.

5401
02:31:07,779 --> 02:31:09,636
rising service-level   expectations,

5402
02:31:09,636 --> 02:31:11,226
expectations, development   pressures

5403
02:31:11,226 --> 02:31:13,350
pressures, escalating   construction costs,

5404
02:31:13,350 --> 02:31:14,937
construction costs, funding gaps

5405
02:31:14,937 --> 02:31:17,178
  gaps, complexities

5406
02:31:17,178 --> 02:31:18,818
gaps, complexities for the   competition

5407
02:31:18,818 --> 02:31:19,036
competition of our road   allowances

5408
02:31:19,036 --> 02:31:19,700
allowances, for things like   safety

5409
02:31:19,700 --> 02:31:24,346
safety, access, active   transportation

5410
02:31:24,346 --> 02:31:24,524
transportation, utilities and   the ever

5411
02:31:24,524 --> 02:31:26,694
the ever moving targets of   falling from

5412
02:31:26,694 --> 02:31:27,898
falling from new or modified   provincial legislation

5413
02:31:27,898 --> 02:31:27,898
provincial legislation.

5414
02:31:27,898 --> 02:31:31,841
while we look forward to the   future

5415
02:31:31,841 --> 02:31:33,971
future, these systems have to

5416
02:31:33,971 --> 02:31:33,971
work

5417
02:31:33,971 --> 02:31:38,401
work today and these hard assets

5418
02:31:38,401 --> 02:31:38,512
are deteriorating around us

5419
02:31:38,512 --> 02:31:40,147
are deteriorating around us   every day.

5420
02:31:40,147 --> 02:31:40,147
are deteriorating around us   every day.

5421
02:31:40,147 --> 02:31:42,117
but I have to say that we love   it, we

5422
02:31:42,117 --> 02:31:44,644
it, we love what we do and we   look

5423
02:31:44,644 --> 02:31:47,755
look forward to next year and

5424
02:31:47,755 --> 02:31:47,809
I   am

5425
02:31:47,809 --> 02:31:49,670
am here to present the proposed   ips budget for

5426
02:31:49,670 --> 02:31:51,258
ips budget for 2026.

5427
02:31:51,258 --> 02:31:55,516
while the total departmental   budget

5428
02:31:55,516 --> 02:32:00,006
budget presented is just over

5429
02:32:00,006 --> 02:32:00,060
$138 million, the following
Recoveries and

5430
02:32:00,060 --> 02:32:00,060
$138 million, the following
Recoveries and

5431
02:32:00,060 --> 02:32:00,168
recoveries and contributions   from

5432
02:32:00,168 --> 02:32:03,561
from our reserves, than that   departmental asked for

5433
02:32:03,561 --> 02:32:05,863
departmental asked for 2026 is   just over

5434
02:32:05,863 --> 02:32:09,030
just over $54 million,   approximately

5435
02:32:09,030 --> 02:32:10,233
approximately $1.8 million over

5436
02:32:10,233 --> 02:32:11,817
2025.

5437
02:32:11,817 --> 02:32:11,817
2025.

5438
02:32:11,817 --> 02:32:16,412
1.25 million of that is our   recommendation to

5439
02:32:16,412 --> 02:32:16,462
recommendation to increment the

5440
02:32:16,462 --> 02:32:16,517
expansion

5441
02:32:16,517 --> 02:32:17,178
expansion program.

5442
02:32:17,178 --> 02:32:19,909
the base contribution this year

5443
02:32:19,909 --> 02:32:19,909
.

5444
02:32:19,909 --> 02:32:25,650
several other items remain off

5445
02:32:25,650 --> 02:32:25,759
this version of the

5446
02:32:25,759 --> 02:32:28,766
this version of the budget, and

5447
02:32:28,766 --> 02:32:29,258
melissa spoke

5448
02:32:29,258 --> 02:32:30,788
melissa spoke to these in   appendix

5449
02:32:30,788 --> 02:32:31,781
appendix three of her treasurers

5450
02:32:31,781 --> 02:32:32,162
report

5451
02:32:32,162 --> 02:32:32,320
report nine happy to talk about

5452
02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:32,376
these

5453
02:32:32,376 --> 02:32:34,291
these further after my   presentation

5454
02:32:34,291 --> 02:32:34,291
presentation.

5455
02:32:34,291 --> 02:32:40,194
things like traffic signals at   the intersection

5456
02:32:40,194 --> 02:32:42,337
the intersection of county road

5457
02:32:42,337 --> 02:32:42,498
20 and 23,

5458
02:32:42,498 --> 02:32:46,165
20 and 23, road supervisor   position,

5459
02:32:46,165 --> 02:32:46,980
position, traffic signals on   on county

5460
02:32:46,980 --> 02:32:47,309
on county road 20 and martin   lane in

5461
02:32:47,309 --> 02:32:50,039
lane in la salle, generator   study for

5462
02:32:50,039 --> 02:32:51,628
study for the administration   building

5463
02:32:51,628 --> 02:32:51,628
building.

5464
02:32:51,628 --> 02:32:57,261
the amenity study, some   additional sidewalk around

5465
02:32:57,261 --> 02:32:58,789
additional sidewalk around our   building

5466
02:32:58,789 --> 02:33:02,178
building and a maintenance one   position.

5467
02:33:02,178 --> 02:33:02,178
building and a maintenance one   position.

5468
02:33:02,178 --> 02:33:05,901
this slide breaks down the net   department

5469
02:33:05,901 --> 02:33:08,481
department of proposed budget

5470
02:33:08,481 --> 02:33:08,533
by   my major service

5471
02:33:08,533 --> 02:33:10,929
my major service groups.  Construction and engineering

5472
02:33:10,929 --> 02:33:12,681
construction and engineering,   maintenance operations

5473
02:33:12,681 --> 02:33:15,091
maintenance operations, facility   operations

5474
02:33:15,091 --> 02:33:18,150
operations, cleaning services   and fleet and

5475
02:33:18,150 --> 02:33:18,209
and fleet and facilities.

5476
02:33:18,209 --> 02:33:23,862
the net construction and   engineering

5477
02:33:23,862 --> 02:33:25,394
engineering budget has an   increase of just over

5478
02:33:25,394 --> 02:33:26,926
increase of just over   $1.4 million and again

5479
02:33:26,926 --> 02:33:30,569
$1.4 million and again, the   majority

5480
02:33:30,569 --> 02:33:31,255
majority of that increment is   the

5481
02:33:31,255 --> 02:33:35,243
the $1.25 million we are   recommending

5482
02:33:35,243 --> 02:33:35,316
recommending toward the increase   to

5483
02:33:35,316 --> 02:33:36,107
to the expansion program faced

5484
02:33:36,107 --> 02:33:37,571
budget

5485
02:33:37,571 --> 02:33:38,742
budget or base contribution.

5486
02:33:38,742 --> 02:33:44,939
are construction engineering   group

5487
02:33:44,939 --> 02:33:45,171
group looks after much of our   core

5488
02:33:45,171 --> 02:33:47,699
core assets and active   transportation facilities

5489
02:33:47,699 --> 02:33:47,699
transportation facilities.

5490
02:33:47,699 --> 02:33:52,085
the state of good repair program   and by the

5491
02:33:52,085 --> 02:33:53,713
and by the way thank you to   council and the council
Preapproval

5492
02:33:53,713 --> 02:33:53,713
and by the way thank you to   council and the council
Preapproval

5493
02:33:53,713 --> 02:33:58,757
preapproval to the big creek   bridge project

5494
02:33:58,757 --> 02:34:00,811
bridge project, they are   currently out

5495
02:34:00,811 --> 02:34:01,958
currently out for tender and we

5496
02:34:01,958 --> 02:34:02,339
are expecting an early start

5497
02:34:02,339 --> 02:34:02,450
are expecting an early start in   the new year

5498
02:34:02,450 --> 02:34:02,450
the new year.

5499
02:34:02,450 --> 02:34:11,442
in this group, we have our   program and

5500
02:34:11,442 --> 02:34:14,150
program and we are planning for   the

5501
02:34:14,150 --> 02:34:16,229
the future, construction,   traffic management

5502
02:34:16,229 --> 02:34:17,598
traffic management, and safety

5503
02:34:17,598 --> 02:34:17,709
of

5504
02:34:17,709 --> 02:34:17,980
of our road corridors.

5505
02:34:17,980 --> 02:34:21,980
and several projects are done

5506
02:34:21,980 --> 02:34:22,309
in   this

5507
02:34:22,309 --> 02:34:23,505
this budget in cooperation with

5508
02:34:23,505 --> 02:34:23,999
our local

5509
02:34:23,999 --> 02:34:24,819
our local municipal partners,

5510
02:34:24,819 --> 02:34:24,871
things like working on

5511
02:34:24,871 --> 02:34:24,981
things like working on or   connecting

5512
02:34:24,981 --> 02:34:29,520
connecting links, a shared ea's

5513
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:30,179
and

5514
02:34:30,179 --> 02:34:30,341
and studies and leveraging our   paving

5515
02:34:30,341 --> 02:34:30,397
paving contracts.

5516
02:34:30,397 --> 02:34:33,401
all of this being mindful of   accessibility

5517
02:34:33,401 --> 02:34:33,401
accessibility.

5518
02:34:33,401 --> 02:34:42,502
of note, in 2026, we continue   with our road

5519
02:34:42,502 --> 02:34:44,088
with our road rationalization

5520
02:34:44,088 --> 02:34:44,088
project

5521
02:34:44,088 --> 02:34:47,199
project designing construction

5522
02:34:47,199 --> 02:34:48,185
of the stormwater

5523
02:34:48,185 --> 02:34:48,292
of the stormwater management   solution for county

5524
02:34:48,292 --> 02:34:50,589
solution for county road 19 and

5525
02:34:50,589 --> 02:34:51,242
the 22 intersection

5526
02:34:51,242 --> 02:34:51,242
the 22 intersection.

5527
02:34:51,242 --> 02:34:56,659
county road 42, 43, phase 4.

5528
02:34:56,659 --> 02:34:59,668
I already mentioned the culvert   and the

5529
02:34:59,668 --> 02:35:01,640
and the big creek bridge and we   have a

5530
02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:04,318
have a number of other bridging

5531
02:35:04,318 --> 02:35:04,758
projects

5532
02:35:04,758 --> 02:35:05,899
projects that are either in the   design

5533
02:35:05,899 --> 02:35:07,490
design or construction phase.

5534
02:35:07,490 --> 02:35:11,980
we have our paved shoulder   program

5535
02:35:11,980 --> 02:35:13,010
program and that will continue

5536
02:35:13,010 --> 02:35:13,399
on

5537
02:35:13,399 --> 02:35:14,560
on county road three, eight,   nine and

5538
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:16,036
nine and 31.

5539
02:35:16,036 --> 02:35:20,318
and on this side we have put   together

5540
02:35:20,318 --> 02:35:24,414
together some figures to answer   2 frequently

5541
02:35:24,414 --> 02:35:25,128
2 frequently answered questions

5542
02:35:25,128 --> 02:35:25,128
.  What

5543
02:35:25,128 --> 02:35:26,171
what is the approximate cost to   maintain

5544
02:35:26,171 --> 02:35:26,282
maintain a highway?

5545
02:35:26,282 --> 02:35:31,971
we are averaging just over $5700   per

5546
02:35:31,971 --> 02:35:33,613
per lane kilometre over ten   years

5547
02:35:33,613 --> 02:35:36,948
years but this year in 2025, we

5548
02:35:36,948 --> 02:35:37,929
hit

5549
02:35:37,929 --> 02:35:38,868
hit just over $7500 per lane   kilometre

5550
02:35:38,868 --> 02:35:38,868
kilometre.

5551
02:35:38,868 --> 02:35:44,001
and what's the approximate cost   to rehabilitate

5552
02:35:44,001 --> 02:35:47,820
to rehabilitate or pave word do   an

5553
02:35:47,820 --> 02:35:49,571
an operation on a highway?  The average cost

5554
02:35:49,571 --> 02:35:51,211
the average cost over ten years

5555
02:35:51,211 --> 02:35:52,966
is about

5556
02:35:52,966 --> 02:35:55,591
is about $94,000 per lane   kilometre

5557
02:35:55,591 --> 02:35:57,450
kilometre but in 2025 and this   speaks

5558
02:35:57,450 --> 02:35:57,887
speaks to the ever escalating   cost

5559
02:35:57,887 --> 02:35:57,996
cost of construction.

5560
02:35:57,996 --> 02:36:03,253
in 2025, we saw $170,000 per   lane kilometre

5561
02:36:03,253 --> 02:36:03,253
lane kilometre.

5562
02:36:03,253 --> 02:36:15,989
our maintenance operation group

5563
02:36:15,989 --> 02:36:16,374
was presenting

5564
02:36:16,374 --> 02:36:17,519
was presenting a not budget for

5565
02:36:17,519 --> 02:36:17,901
2026 of just over

5566
02:36:17,901 --> 02:36:21,293
2026 of just over $10 million.  Approximately

5567
02:36:21,293 --> 02:36:24,465
approximately 550 is covering   things like

5568
02:36:24,465 --> 02:36:26,431
things like wage increases,   increases

5569
02:36:26,431 --> 02:36:29,550
increases to our management   budget

5570
02:36:29,550 --> 02:36:32,556
budget, some additional dollars   for

5571
02:36:32,556 --> 02:36:32,671
for asset management   particularly in

5572
02:36:32,671 --> 02:36:34,040
particularly in the drainage   asset

5573
02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:35,570
asset department.

5574
02:36:35,570 --> 02:36:41,091
our maintenance operations group

5575
02:36:41,091 --> 02:36:41,201
also known as

5576
02:36:41,201 --> 02:36:44,922
also known as roads provides   maintenance to our existing

5577
02:36:44,922 --> 02:36:44,979
maintenance to our existing road

5578
02:36:44,979 --> 02:36:46,510
network

5579
02:36:46,510 --> 02:36:47,541
network for summer maintenance,

5580
02:36:47,541 --> 02:36:47,600
winter

5581
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:50,283
winter control and traffic   signal maintenance

5582
02:36:50,283 --> 02:36:57,062
signal maintenance our facility   operations

5583
02:36:57,062 --> 02:37:00,233
operations group, a budget   request

5584
02:37:00,233 --> 02:37:03,682
request in 2026 for just over

5585
02:37:03,682 --> 02:37:03,682
$860,000.

5586
02:37:03,682 --> 02:37:03,682
$860,000.

5587
02:37:03,682 --> 02:37:09,961
facility's operation as a team   that

5588
02:37:09,961 --> 02:37:11,165
that manages the county of essex   administration building and

5589
02:37:11,165 --> 02:37:11,281
administration building and also   provide

5590
02:37:11,281 --> 02:37:14,341
provide some services to other   facilities

5591
02:37:14,341 --> 02:37:17,951
facilities as needed.

5592
02:37:17,951 --> 02:37:19,374
this department manages several

5593
02:37:19,374 --> 02:37:19,761
of

5594
02:37:19,761 --> 02:37:21,232
of our annual contracts for us   in

5595
02:37:21,232 --> 02:37:22,817
in addition to keeping this   building

5596
02:37:22,817 --> 02:37:23,859
building and our grounds in good   condition

5597
02:37:23,859 --> 02:37:23,859
condition.

5598
02:37:23,859 --> 02:37:31,301
our planning services group has   a

5599
02:37:31,301 --> 02:37:36,324
a budget and our planning team   is

5600
02:37:36,324 --> 02:37:40,813
is led by our manager rebecca   belanger and

5601
02:37:40,813 --> 02:37:41,469
belanger and she is here to   speak to the

5602
02:37:41,469 --> 02:37:41,573
speak to the planning budget.

5603
02:37:41,573 --> 02:37:57,160
>> thank you, good morning,   gordon

5604
02:37:57,160 --> 02:37:57,160
gordon.  As

5605
02:37:57,160 --> 02:38:00,387
as council is aware, my position   with the

5606
02:38:00,387 --> 02:38:01,044
with the support of 2 additional

5607
02:38:01,044 --> 02:38:01,762
planners

5608
02:38:01,762 --> 02:38:02,031
planners conducts the work,   acting

5609
02:38:02,031 --> 02:38:05,371
acting as the delegated   provincial

5610
02:38:05,371 --> 02:38:05,533
provincial planning authority   for ensuring that

5611
02:38:05,533 --> 02:38:07,454
for ensuring that all matters

5612
02:38:07,454 --> 02:38:07,510
are addressed

5613
02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:10,120
are addressed and improving   local plans and

5614
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:12,963
local plans and amendments as   well as

5615
02:38:12,963 --> 02:38:13,072
well as other planning   applications such as

5616
02:38:13,072 --> 02:38:16,364
applications such as plans of   tradition

5617
02:38:16,364 --> 02:38:17,291
tradition as an example.

5618
02:38:17,291 --> 02:38:20,844
we presently have over 150   active planning applications

5619
02:38:20,844 --> 02:38:20,954
active planning applications   throughout the local

5620
02:38:20,954 --> 02:38:21,010
throughout the local   municipality's

5621
02:38:21,010 --> 02:38:21,010
municipality's.

5622
02:38:21,010 --> 02:38:25,432
a large number of these   applications

5623
02:38:25,432 --> 02:38:25,874
applications are in the pre  preconsultation stage

5624
02:38:25,874 --> 02:38:27,401
preconsultation stage of review

5625
02:38:27,401 --> 02:38:29,539
and

5626
02:38:29,539 --> 02:38:30,139
and county planning has than not   taken the

5627
02:38:30,139 --> 02:38:30,962
taken the associated fee.

5628
02:38:30,962 --> 02:38:37,790
this will look as if it's a   reduced revenue

5629
02:38:37,790 --> 02:38:38,562
reduced revenue of planning   applications

5630
02:38:38,562 --> 02:38:40,202
applications, this is not   however reflective

5631
02:38:40,202 --> 02:38:40,528
however reflective of the actual   work in

5632
02:38:40,528 --> 02:38:40,637
work in the department.

5633
02:38:40,637 --> 02:38:44,959
now that the county official   plan

5634
02:38:44,959 --> 02:38:46,931
plan has received final approval

5635
02:38:46,931 --> 02:38:47,207
by the

5636
02:38:47,207 --> 02:38:48,623
by the province, planning   administration

5637
02:38:48,623 --> 02:38:50,099
administration will be advancing

5638
02:38:50,099 --> 02:38:50,319
several

5639
02:38:50,319 --> 02:38:50,592
several strategic planning   studies in

5640
02:38:50,592 --> 02:38:52,180
studies in 2026.

5641
02:38:52,180 --> 02:38:55,843
the first of these and the   purchased services section
Includes

5642
02:38:55,843 --> 02:38:55,843
the first of these and the   purchased services section
Includes

5643
02:38:55,843 --> 02:38:58,140
includes a specialty study, the   intent

5644
02:38:58,140 --> 02:39:03,119
intent of this work is to   formally

5645
02:39:03,119 --> 02:39:05,250
formally identify and map these   high-priority

5646
02:39:05,250 --> 02:39:06,511
high-priority agriculture areas

5647
02:39:06,511 --> 02:39:07,161
to

5648
02:39:07,161 --> 02:39:08,203
to ensure they are properly   considered

5649
02:39:08,203 --> 02:39:09,403
considered win planning   applications

5650
02:39:09,403 --> 02:39:09,622
applications come forward as   well

5651
02:39:09,622 --> 02:39:09,732
well as new official plans.

5652
02:39:09,732 --> 02:39:14,763
they county strategic plan   directs the advancement

5653
02:39:14,763 --> 02:39:16,351
directs the advancement of a   regional

5654
02:39:16,351 --> 02:39:17,822
regional climate land strategy.

5655
02:39:17,822 --> 02:39:21,114
the rfp is currently out on bids   and tenders

5656
02:39:21,114 --> 02:39:21,219
and tenders and the expectation

5657
02:39:21,219 --> 02:39:23,571
that

5658
02:39:23,571 --> 02:39:24,064
that the consultant will be   selected in december

5659
02:39:24,064 --> 02:39:24,064
selected in december.

5660
02:39:24,064 --> 02:39:28,214
this project is planned to run

5661
02:39:28,214 --> 02:39:28,326
through and conclude in june of

5662
02:39:28,326 --> 02:39:28,326
through and conclude in june of

5663
02:39:28,326 --> 02:39:28,383
next

5664
02:39:28,383 --> 02:39:31,502
next year with regular reporting   to

5665
02:39:31,502 --> 02:39:31,553
to county counsel.

5666
02:39:31,553 --> 02:39:35,544
the planning budget also   includes a

5667
02:39:35,544 --> 02:39:39,483
includes a carryover amount for   the regional energy plan

5668
02:39:39,483 --> 02:39:39,593
the regional energy plan   implementation project

5669
02:39:39,593 --> 02:39:39,593
implementation project.

5670
02:39:39,593 --> 02:39:43,756
this budgeted amount is intended

5671
02:39:43,756 --> 02:39:44,131
to

5672
02:39:44,131 --> 02:39:46,154
to be used for this year to   conduct a

5673
02:39:46,154 --> 02:39:47,746
conduct a climate adaptation   plan

5674
02:39:47,746 --> 02:39:49,873
plan and in partnership with   local municipalities

5675
02:39:49,873 --> 02:39:49,983
local municipalities that are   interested

5676
02:39:49,983 --> 02:39:49,983
interested.

5677
02:39:49,983 --> 02:39:55,559
the adaptation plan will create

5678
02:39:55,559 --> 02:39:55,725
an

5679
02:39:55,725 --> 02:39:58,632
an updated greenhouse gas   emission

5680
02:39:58,632 --> 02:39:58,736
emission inventory for the   county

5681
02:39:58,736 --> 02:39:58,840
county as well as local   municipalities

5682
02:39:58,840 --> 02:40:03,818
municipalities enabling us to

5683
02:40:03,818 --> 02:40:03,871
begin monitoring our actions
That

5684
02:40:03,871 --> 02:40:03,871
begin monitoring our actions
That

5685
02:40:03,871 --> 02:40:07,593
that impact and reduce emissions   as well

5686
02:40:07,593 --> 02:40:07,768
as well as other components of   the action

5687
02:40:07,768 --> 02:40:11,748
the action plan that will   include

5688
02:40:11,748 --> 02:40:14,154
include an assessment of climate   related vulnerabilities

5689
02:40:14,154 --> 02:40:15,145
related vulnerabilities,   resilient strategies

5690
02:40:15,145 --> 02:40:15,250
resilient strategies and an   updated clean

5691
02:40:15,250 --> 02:40:19,573
updated clean energy target.

5692
02:40:19,573 --> 02:40:20,064
purchased services also include   the

5693
02:40:20,064 --> 02:40:22,246
the annual contribution to the   resilience

5694
02:40:22,246 --> 02:40:26,351
resilience project, in the   amount

5695
02:40:26,351 --> 02:40:28,593
amount of $50,000.  This contribution

5696
02:40:28,593 --> 02:40:29,254
this contribution from the   county and other

5697
02:40:29,254 --> 02:40:30,838
county and other project   partners

5698
02:40:30,838 --> 02:40:33,403
partners enable the project to   receive

5699
02:40:33,403 --> 02:40:35,102
receive grant funding in the   amount

5700
02:40:35,102 --> 02:40:37,014
amount of $1 million.

5701
02:40:37,014 --> 02:40:38,436
this project is in its second   year

5702
02:40:38,436 --> 02:40:38,761
year of the three-year work   program

5703
02:40:38,761 --> 02:40:38,761
program.

5704
02:40:38,761 --> 02:40:42,705
regarding the natural heritage

5705
02:40:42,705 --> 02:40:42,763
system

5706
02:40:42,763 --> 02:40:46,913
system strategy listed on this

5707
02:40:46,913 --> 02:40:47,732
side, although this initiative
Was

5708
02:40:47,732 --> 02:40:47,732
side, although this initiative
Was

5709
02:40:47,732 --> 02:40:50,250
was originally planned to   advance in

5710
02:40:50,250 --> 02:40:53,913
advance in 2026, through the   review

5711
02:40:53,913 --> 02:40:55,605
review and prioritization of   other

5712
02:40:55,605 --> 02:40:56,592
other required strategic   planning studies

5713
02:40:56,592 --> 02:40:57,357
planning studies, we are looking   forward to advancing

5714
02:40:57,357 --> 02:40:57,463
forward to advancing this   initiative

5715
02:40:57,463 --> 02:41:02,826
initiative instead in 2027 there   for

5716
02:41:02,826 --> 02:41:04,523
for you will know that there is

5717
02:41:04,523 --> 02:41:04,684
no budget allocated for this

5718
02:41:04,684 --> 02:41:04,739
no budget allocated for this   initiative

5719
02:41:04,739 --> 02:41:04,739
initiative.

5720
02:41:04,739 --> 02:41:07,754
this concludes my comments,   thank you

5721
02:41:07,754 --> 02:41:07,754
thank you.

5722
02:41:07,754 --> 02:41:10,701
>> thank you, rebecca.

5723
02:41:10,701 --> 02:41:15,295
moving on to our fleet and   facilities budget

5724
02:41:15,295 --> 02:41:17,707
facilities budget, this is where   we track

5725
02:41:17,707 --> 02:41:21,594
we track capital needs for   nonlinear

5726
02:41:21,594 --> 02:41:22,790
nonlinear assets, things such

5727
02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:23,061
as   equipment for our roads group

5728
02:41:23,061 --> 02:41:23,061
equipment for our roads group,

5729
02:41:23,061 --> 02:41:23,171
trucks

5730
02:41:23,171 --> 02:41:27,710
trucks, ploughs, loaders,   equipment

5731
02:41:27,710 --> 02:41:27,876
equipment and building needs for

5732
02:41:27,876 --> 02:41:27,936
our facilities

5733
02:41:27,936 --> 02:41:30,714
our facilities group and any   major renovation

5734
02:41:30,714 --> 02:41:31,762
major renovation projects.

5735
02:41:31,762 --> 02:41:39,542
in 2026, we presented a budget

5736
02:41:39,542 --> 02:41:40,033
to effectively

5737
02:41:40,033 --> 02:41:40,793
to effectively replace aging   equipment

5738
02:41:40,793 --> 02:41:41,345
equipment, support the county's   desired

5739
02:41:41,345 --> 02:41:43,856
desired level of service, renew   our facilities

5740
02:41:43,856 --> 02:41:47,145
our facilities, for example,   there

5741
02:41:47,145 --> 02:41:47,576
there is a report on the consent

5742
02:41:47,576 --> 02:41:49,052
agenda

5743
02:41:49,052 --> 02:41:52,506
agenda that we have included   $2.000000 towards the

5744
02:41:52,506 --> 02:41:52,558
$2.000000 towards the renovation

5745
02:41:52,558 --> 02:41:54,466
for council's consideration

5746
02:41:54,466 --> 02:41:54,466
for council's consideration.

5747
02:41:54,466 --> 02:41:59,225
and lastly, to enhance we have

5748
02:41:59,225 --> 02:42:01,522
items

5749
02:42:01,522 --> 02:42:03,215
items in this budget to provide   enhancements

5750
02:42:03,215 --> 02:42:03,544
enhancements to security at our   roads depots

5751
02:42:03,544 --> 02:42:03,544
roads depots.

5752
02:42:03,544 --> 02:42:11,372
and this is just a slide that

5753
02:42:11,372 --> 02:42:11,372
shows

5754
02:42:11,372 --> 02:42:12,907
shows some of the work that we

5755
02:42:12,907 --> 02:42:13,344
do,

5756
02:42:13,344 --> 02:42:14,930
do, it gets messy sometimes but   it also shows

5757
02:42:14,930 --> 02:42:16,567
it also shows some of our   successes

5758
02:42:16,567 --> 02:42:18,314
successes and some of our   responses to some of council

5759
02:42:18,314 --> 02:42:18,314
responses to some of council's

5760
02:42:18,314 --> 02:42:19,903
requests

5761
02:42:19,903 --> 02:42:21,597
requests and with that, I will   conclude

5762
02:42:21,597 --> 02:42:24,116
conclude and I am available to

5763
02:42:24,116 --> 02:42:24,168
answer

5764
02:42:24,168 --> 02:42:29,034
answer any questions.  >> thank you

5765
02:42:29,034 --> 02:42:29,255
>> thank you.  I was expecting a

5766
02:42:29,255 --> 02:42:29,308
I was expecting a lot longer.

5767
02:42:29,308 --> 02:42:33,736
opening the floor to comments   and

5768
02:42:33,736 --> 02:42:33,847
and questions from council,   starting

5769
02:42:33,847 --> 02:42:36,139
starting with you councillor   bailey.
>>

5770
02:42:36,139 --> 02:42:36,139
starting with you councillor   bailey.
>>

5771
02:42:36,139 --> 02:42:37,456
>> thank you.  Through

5772
02:42:37,456 --> 02:42:41,394
through you, to start up I   wanted

5773
02:42:41,394 --> 02:42:43,524
wanted to our own horn here, we

5774
02:42:43,524 --> 02:42:44,011
have done amazing

5775
02:42:44,011 --> 02:42:44,947
have done amazing, amazing work

5776
02:42:44,947 --> 02:42:45,765
when it comes to the

5777
02:42:45,765 --> 02:42:45,877
when it comes to the paved   shoulder

5778
02:42:45,877 --> 02:42:49,370
shoulder program and cwats and   everything

5779
02:42:49,370 --> 02:42:51,127
everything we've been doing   through this

5780
02:42:51,127 --> 02:42:51,668
through this department and I   know that

5781
02:42:51,668 --> 02:42:53,316
know that many of those trails

5782
02:42:53,316 --> 02:42:56,825
,   I ride

5783
02:42:56,825 --> 02:42:58,014
I ride and I noticed numbers of   council

5784
02:42:58,014 --> 02:42:59,435
council have viewed them and I   I think

5785
02:42:59,435 --> 02:43:00,699
I think sherry took a ride with

5786
02:43:00,699 --> 02:43:01,294
some of the groups earlier on

5787
02:43:01,294 --> 02:43:01,351
some of the groups earlier on

5788
02:43:01,351 --> 02:43:01,403
in   the year

5789
02:43:01,403 --> 02:43:05,953
the year too and we are so close  close,

5790
02:43:05,953 --> 02:43:08,628
close, we are 1.8 kilometres   away from

5791
02:43:08,628 --> 02:43:09,715
away from bridging the gap for

5792
02:43:09,715 --> 02:43:09,833
161 kilometres

5793
02:43:09,833 --> 02:43:14,155
161 kilometres of the seaway,

5794
02:43:14,155 --> 02:43:14,209
100 which is pretty incredible

5795
02:43:14,209 --> 02:43:14,209
100 which is pretty incredible

5796
02:43:14,209 --> 02:43:14,967
that we have done

5797
02:43:14,967 --> 02:43:16,553
that we have done that as a   region

5798
02:43:16,553 --> 02:43:18,035
region so talk about the   regional powerhouse for

5799
02:43:18,035 --> 02:43:18,145
regional powerhouse for all of   us to

5800
02:43:18,145 --> 02:43:21,587
us to have this system that is

5801
02:43:21,587 --> 02:43:21,639
moving

5802
02:43:21,639 --> 02:43:21,753
moving through all of our   communities

5803
02:43:21,753 --> 02:43:23,068
communities so beautifully.

5804
02:43:23,068 --> 02:43:27,544
the 1.8% that is not done is in

5805
02:43:27,544 --> 02:43:29,023
lakeshore

5806
02:43:29,023 --> 02:43:31,926
lakeshore and I know that it's a   little

5807
02:43:31,926 --> 02:43:33,788
little late here and there are   probably resources and they

5808
02:43:33,788 --> 02:43:33,845
probably resources and they   understand

5809
02:43:33,845 --> 02:43:34,657
understand that some of the   things have

5810
02:43:34,657 --> 02:43:37,176
things have been funded and   somewhere funded

5811
02:43:37,176 --> 02:43:38,765
somewhere funded and some are

5812
02:43:38,765 --> 02:43:38,817
not funded

5813
02:43:38,817 --> 02:43:40,735
not funded so I don't want this

5814
02:43:40,735 --> 02:43:40,952
to

5815
02:43:40,952 --> 02:43:41,216
to happen today but I do want to

5816
02:43:41,216 --> 02:43:42,703
preface

5817
02:43:42,703 --> 02:43:43,955
preface that a notice of motion

5818
02:43:43,955 --> 02:43:44,176
will come

5819
02:43:44,176 --> 02:43:44,935
will come forward at some point   to try

5820
02:43:44,935 --> 02:43:49,703
to try to identify the 1.8%.  A

5821
02:43:49,703 --> 02:43:51,608
a couple of things in addition   to

5822
02:43:51,608 --> 02:43:52,376
to that to note, we have an   awesome opportunity

5823
02:43:52,376 --> 02:43:55,438
awesome opportunity to build in   resources for

5824
02:43:55,438 --> 02:43:59,596
resources for signage along the   seaway

5825
02:43:59,596 --> 02:44:01,125
seaway so that folks know where

5826
02:44:01,125 --> 02:44:01,565
to go in

5827
02:44:01,565 --> 02:44:02,547
to go in our communities where   it

5828
02:44:02,547 --> 02:44:02,656
it is comfortable to ride.

5829
02:44:02,656 --> 02:44:06,487
I would like to see a signage   program come

5830
02:44:06,487 --> 02:44:07,686
program come forward as well as   the

5831
02:44:07,686 --> 02:44:11,134
the removal of signs and areas

5832
02:44:11,134 --> 02:44:12,611
that don't

5833
02:44:12,611 --> 02:44:13,926
that don't make sense within our   plant

5834
02:44:13,926 --> 02:44:15,126
plant so they don't have paved

5835
02:44:15,126 --> 02:44:15,293
shoulders

5836
02:44:15,293 --> 02:44:15,293
shoulders.

5837
02:44:15,293 --> 02:44:16,274
one of those examples is in my

5838
02:44:16,274 --> 02:44:16,605
community

5839
02:44:16,605 --> 02:44:20,544
community, 12-foot ditches on

5840
02:44:20,544 --> 02:44:20,598
both sides

5841
02:44:20,598 --> 02:44:21,907
both sides of the road, gravel   road,

5842
02:44:21,907 --> 02:44:24,750
road, and to end and it's marked

5843
02:44:24,750 --> 02:44:25,405
as a cwats

5844
02:44:25,405 --> 02:44:26,613
as a cwats trail which tells a   cyclist

5845
02:44:26,613 --> 02:44:28,356
cyclist it's a good spot to go   and

5846
02:44:28,356 --> 02:44:29,348
and it's absolutely not a good   spot

5847
02:44:29,348 --> 02:44:29,787
spot to go.

5848
02:44:29,787 --> 02:44:31,747
we will blow the tires on our   bike unless

5849
02:44:31,747 --> 02:44:32,405
bike unless we have a fat bike

5850
02:44:32,405 --> 02:44:32,514
and we will land

5851
02:44:32,514 --> 02:44:34,544
and we will land in the ditch

5852
02:44:34,544 --> 02:44:34,596
so   I

5853
02:44:34,596 --> 02:44:36,127
I know that I am late to the   game

5854
02:44:36,127 --> 02:44:37,330
game for this budget both in   lakeshore

5855
02:44:37,330 --> 02:44:39,628
lakeshore and here at the county   but

5856
02:44:39,628 --> 02:44:40,884
but don't be surprised by a   notice

5857
02:44:40,884 --> 02:44:41,489
notice of motion that will work   to try to

5858
02:44:41,489 --> 02:44:45,967
to try to bridge the last 1.8   kilometre

5859
02:44:45,967 --> 02:44:47,387
kilometre stretch so that we as   a

5860
02:44:47,387 --> 02:44:48,597
a region will have accomplished

5861
02:44:48,597 --> 02:44:49,794
161 kilometres

5862
02:44:49,794 --> 02:44:51,714
161 kilometres of roadway and

5863
02:44:51,714 --> 02:44:52,427
if   you want to

5864
02:44:52,427 --> 02:44:53,406
you want to see it, I am happy

5865
02:44:53,406 --> 02:44:53,681
to

5866
02:44:53,681 --> 02:44:55,049
to get us a bus and anyone who

5867
02:44:55,049 --> 02:44:55,372
wants to come

5868
02:44:55,372 --> 02:44:56,249
wants to come along we can ride

5869
02:44:56,249 --> 02:44:56,579
it and

5870
02:44:56,579 --> 02:44:57,785
it and if you are not feeling   like

5871
02:44:57,785 --> 02:44:59,317
like riding a bike this spring   you also have all

5872
02:44:59,317 --> 02:44:59,422
you also have all winter to get

5873
02:44:59,422 --> 02:45:00,901
ready

5874
02:45:00,901 --> 02:45:03,256
ready and get fit and I will   take

5875
02:45:03,256 --> 02:45:04,187
take the ride with you for the

5876
02:45:04,187 --> 02:45:04,241
full

5877
02:45:04,241 --> 02:45:07,191
full 160 for anyone who wants to   go

5878
02:45:07,191 --> 02:45:07,191
go.

5879
02:45:07,191 --> 02:45:07,399
that is my two cents.

5880
02:45:07,399 --> 02:45:09,049
>> thank you.

5881
02:45:09,049 --> 02:45:13,092
councillor bondy.  >> thank you, warden mcdonald

5882
02:45:13,092 --> 02:45:13,092
>> thank you, warden mcdonald.

5883
02:45:13,092 --> 02:45:13,092


5884
02:45:13,092 --> 02:45:17,685
further to what councillor   bailey is saying

5885
02:45:17,685 --> 02:45:20,700
bailey is saying, I am in full

5886
02:45:20,700 --> 02:45:21,186
agreement with

5887
02:45:21,186 --> 02:45:21,294
agreement with what she is   looking

5888
02:45:21,294 --> 02:45:22,825
looking to do and I think it is   long

5889
02:45:22,825 --> 02:45:25,289
long overdue.

5890
02:45:25,289 --> 02:45:27,756
this is something that is going

5891
02:45:27,756 --> 02:45:27,914
to

5892
02:45:27,914 --> 02:45:29,447
to be a cycling corridor from

5893
02:45:29,447 --> 02:45:29,500
one end of our county to

5894
02:45:29,500 --> 02:45:29,883
one end of our county to another

5895
02:45:29,883 --> 02:45:31,415
and

5896
02:45:31,415 --> 02:45:34,754
and with the new gordie howe   bridge opening

5897
02:45:34,754 --> 02:45:35,629
bridge opening up allowing   cyclist

5898
02:45:35,629 --> 02:45:36,940
cyclist, this is really big and   it's an

5899
02:45:36,940 --> 02:45:38,037
it's an opportunity for all of   us so I

5900
02:45:38,037 --> 02:45:41,426
us so I hope you do bring it   forward because I

5901
02:45:41,426 --> 02:45:41,534
forward because I would like to   support it

5902
02:45:41,534 --> 02:45:41,534
support it.

5903
02:45:41,534 --> 02:45:46,015
I am wondering if do we even   have a

5904
02:45:46,015 --> 02:45:47,107
have a price for that little   segment?
That is my

5905
02:45:47,107 --> 02:45:47,107
have a price for that little   segment?
That is my

5906
02:45:47,107 --> 02:45:49,518
that is my first question and   then I have

5907
02:45:49,518 --> 02:45:49,628
then I have several more   questions

5908
02:45:49,628 --> 02:45:49,628
questions.

5909
02:45:49,628 --> 02:45:57,118
>> I do not have a price for you  you.

5910
02:45:57,118 --> 02:45:57,118
>> I do not have a price for you  you.

5911
02:45:57,118 --> 02:45:57,826
I can try to get one worked out   for

5912
02:45:57,826 --> 02:46:01,328
for you, a little later in the   day

5913
02:46:01,328 --> 02:46:01,935
day but at the moment I don't

5914
02:46:01,935 --> 02:46:01,987
have that

5915
02:46:01,987 --> 02:46:01,987
have that.

5916
02:46:01,987 --> 02:46:07,246
>> thank you.  Maybe we can add

5917
02:46:07,246 --> 02:46:08,823
maybe we can add that to   appendix

5918
02:46:08,823 --> 02:46:11,398
appendix four that we just   created

5919
02:46:11,398 --> 02:46:11,398
created.

5920
02:46:11,398 --> 02:46:13,797
one of the other questions that   I have

5921
02:46:13,797 --> 02:46:14,017
I have is can you elaborate a   little bit more

5922
02:46:14,017 --> 02:46:16,106
little bit more on the drainage

5923
02:46:16,106 --> 02:46:17,576
works

5924
02:46:17,576 --> 02:46:19,048
works that we are talking about

5925
02:46:19,048 --> 02:46:19,157
in the

5926
02:46:19,157 --> 02:46:20,636
in the budget.

5927
02:46:20,636 --> 02:46:26,547
earlier miss ryan talked about

5928
02:46:26,547 --> 02:46:26,659
how

5929
02:46:26,659 --> 02:46:26,765
how we are doing training works

5930
02:46:26,765 --> 02:46:26,818
and

5931
02:46:26,818 --> 02:46:29,061
and if you can't elaborate on   that

5932
02:46:29,061 --> 02:46:32,828
that tonight I will take it by   email

5933
02:46:32,828 --> 02:46:34,039
email and in the future I just   know that with

5934
02:46:34,039 --> 02:46:35,626
know that with the recent   flooding

5935
02:46:35,626 --> 02:46:37,617
flooding in notches my minister   polity but

5936
02:46:37,617 --> 02:46:37,747
polity but other municipalities

5937
02:46:37,747 --> 02:46:40,046
the people have a

5938
02:46:40,046 --> 02:46:40,159
the people have a higher   expectation

5939
02:46:40,159 --> 02:46:42,729
expectation of us when it comes

5940
02:46:42,729 --> 02:46:43,327
to drainage.
They want

5941
02:46:43,327 --> 02:46:43,327
to drainage.
They want

5942
02:46:43,327 --> 02:46:45,465
they want regular maintenance

5943
02:46:45,465 --> 02:46:45,517
and I

5944
02:46:45,517 --> 02:46:47,050
and I just want to make sure   there is enough budget

5945
02:46:47,050 --> 02:46:47,106
there is enough budget dollars

5946
02:46:47,106 --> 02:46:47,106
.

5947
02:46:47,106 --> 02:46:52,188
the other question that I also   believe

5948
02:46:52,188 --> 02:46:53,130
believe we need a full review

5949
02:46:53,130 --> 02:46:53,182
of   cwats

5950
02:46:53,182 --> 02:46:55,906
cwats and the signage.  I could

5951
02:46:55,906 --> 02:46:56,017
I could not agree more.

5952
02:46:56,017 --> 02:47:00,065
I know there is a cwats   committee but they

5953
02:47:00,065 --> 02:47:01,266
committee but they actually   should talk

5954
02:47:01,266 --> 02:47:05,096
should talk to the easy wrote   folks who ride and

5955
02:47:05,096 --> 02:47:08,107
folks who ride and cycle because

5956
02:47:08,107 --> 02:47:08,487
there is another

5957
02:47:08,487 --> 02:47:08,597
there is another section and I   am

5958
02:47:08,597 --> 02:47:12,967
am sorry, I have to raise this

5959
02:47:12,967 --> 02:47:13,465
again.

5960
02:47:13,465 --> 02:47:13,465
again.

5961
02:47:13,465 --> 02:47:15,876
one can we look at this little

5962
02:47:15,876 --> 02:47:16,907
section, just like this

5963
02:47:16,907 --> 02:47:18,547
section, just like this section   in

5964
02:47:18,547 --> 02:47:21,555
in councillor bailey's area, a

5965
02:47:21,555 --> 02:47:21,719
section in the cwats

5966
02:47:21,719 --> 02:47:21,939
section in the cwats plan that   can

5967
02:47:21,939 --> 02:47:25,109
can next and another section   that

5968
02:47:25,109 --> 02:47:28,557
that is not done, I know it is

5969
02:47:28,557 --> 02:47:28,718
a   complicated

5970
02:47:28,718 --> 02:47:29,654
complicated section and has a   hydro

5971
02:47:29,654 --> 02:47:31,294
hydro poll and it's not cheap

5972
02:47:31,294 --> 02:47:31,294
but

5973
02:47:31,294 --> 02:47:32,874
but we have this great   waterfront trail

5974
02:47:32,874 --> 02:47:34,795
waterfront trail that we mark

5975
02:47:34,795 --> 02:47:34,847
as   a cycling

5976
02:47:34,847 --> 02:47:37,201
a cycling corridor and it goes   from

5977
02:47:37,201 --> 02:47:39,495
from one end to the other but

5978
02:47:39,495 --> 02:47:39,935
in   a

5979
02:47:39,935 --> 02:47:43,269
a spot with no paved trail, the   road is

5980
02:47:43,269 --> 02:47:45,349
road is narrow and the speed   limit is

5981
02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:48,081
limit is 80 so I don't know why   we have that

5982
02:47:48,081 --> 02:47:48,188
we have that marked as?

5983
02:47:48,188 --> 02:47:49,830
the great   waterfront

5984
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:53,500
waterfront trail when it's a   raceway

5985
02:47:53,500 --> 02:47:53,500
raceway.

5986
02:47:53,500 --> 02:47:55,080
do we have a cost on that and   when we can get

5987
02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:56,280
when we can get that one done,

5988
02:47:56,280 --> 02:48:01,538
please.
>>

5989
02:48:01,538 --> 02:48:01,538
please.
>>

5990
02:48:01,538 --> 02:48:02,848
>> thank you, through you,   warden, to repeat

5991
02:48:02,848 --> 02:48:04,520
warden, to repeat back to you,

5992
02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:05,560
we

5993
02:48:05,560 --> 02:48:06,489
we are looking at getting some   costs for

5994
02:48:06,489 --> 02:48:10,748
costs for that segment of -- I

5995
02:48:10,748 --> 02:48:10,966
forget the

5996
02:48:10,966 --> 02:48:12,062
forget the name of it.  The essex county

5997
02:48:12,062 --> 02:48:16,386
the essex county way and I am

5998
02:48:16,386 --> 02:48:16,439
just looking up some costs

5999
02:48:16,439 --> 02:48:16,548
just looking up some costs to   speak

6000
02:48:16,548 --> 02:48:21,249
speak to the additional   stormwater maintenance

6001
02:48:21,249 --> 02:48:22,736
stormwater maintenance projects

6002
02:48:22,736 --> 02:48:23,278
that

6003
02:48:23,278 --> 02:48:23,769
that we would like to fund this   year

6004
02:48:23,769 --> 02:48:28,746
year and comment on county road

6005
02:48:28,746 --> 02:48:30,331
50 in

6006
02:48:30,331 --> 02:48:30,607
50 in amherstburg.  This

6007
02:48:30,607 --> 02:48:33,280
this year, we have added   additional

6008
02:48:33,280 --> 02:48:36,673
additional dollars into the   stormwater maintenance along

6009
02:48:36,673 --> 02:48:36,783
stormwater maintenance along our   county

6010
02:48:36,783 --> 02:48:41,814
county road so that we can   improve catch

6011
02:48:41,814 --> 02:48:43,947
improve catch basins, we can   tackle

6012
02:48:43,947 --> 02:48:45,537
tackle some of the aging smaller

6013
02:48:45,537 --> 02:48:45,917
culverts

6014
02:48:45,917 --> 02:48:46,078
culverts and road crossings that   we

6015
02:48:46,078 --> 02:48:46,136
we have.

6016
02:48:46,136 --> 02:48:51,658
we are anticipating continued   impacts of climate

6017
02:48:51,658 --> 02:48:53,136
impacts of climate change.  We

6018
02:48:53,136 --> 02:48:55,819
we have fallen behind in years   past on

6019
02:48:55,819 --> 02:48:55,924
past on some of that maintenance

6020
02:48:55,924 --> 02:48:57,955
and

6021
02:48:57,955 --> 02:48:59,541
and we would like to see extra   dollars

6022
02:48:59,541 --> 02:49:00,078
dollars in that item so we can   get ahead

6023
02:49:00,078 --> 02:49:00,191
get ahead of that.

6024
02:49:00,191 --> 02:49:03,909
to really catch up and then   start to get ahead

6025
02:49:03,909 --> 02:49:04,021
start to get ahead of it.

6026
02:49:04,021 --> 02:49:08,718
with respect to county road 50,

6027
02:49:08,718 --> 02:49:09,106
we

6028
02:49:09,106 --> 02:49:11,517
we do have dollars in this year

6029
02:49:11,517 --> 02:49:11,901
  year's budget to continue work

6030
02:49:11,901 --> 02:49:11,901
year's budget to continue work

6031
02:49:11,901 --> 02:49:11,954
on

6032
02:49:11,954 --> 02:49:16,271
on design for a segment of our   cwats

6033
02:49:16,271 --> 02:49:20,266
cwats trail along county road

6034
02:49:20,266 --> 02:49:20,318
50  50.
It is really the

6035
02:49:20,318 --> 02:49:20,318
50  50.
It is really the

6036
02:49:20,318 --> 02:49:21,137
it is really the extreme west

6037
02:49:21,137 --> 02:49:21,137
end

6038
02:49:21,137 --> 02:49:21,137
end.

6039
02:49:21,137 --> 02:49:26,111
that segment is not one of the   low hanging

6040
02:49:26,111 --> 02:49:27,755
low hanging fruits that we've   tackled

6041
02:49:27,755 --> 02:49:29,996
tackled in the last ten years

6042
02:49:29,996 --> 02:49:31,528
or   so.
This

6043
02:49:31,528 --> 02:49:31,528
or   so.
This

6044
02:49:31,528 --> 02:49:33,008
this one will require a little

6045
02:49:33,008 --> 02:49:33,549
extra work.

6046
02:49:33,549 --> 02:49:33,549
extra work.

6047
02:49:33,549 --> 02:49:35,137
there is money in this year's

6048
02:49:35,137 --> 02:49:35,190
budget to

6049
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:37,157
budget to look at what we would   need to do for

6050
02:49:37,157 --> 02:49:37,264
need to do for utility   relocation

6051
02:49:37,264 --> 02:49:41,099
relocation perhaps getting into   some municipal drain

6052
02:49:41,099 --> 02:49:41,153
some municipal drain relocation

6053
02:49:41,153 --> 02:49:43,394
so that

6054
02:49:43,394 --> 02:49:44,821
so that we can prepare the way   to

6055
02:49:44,821 --> 02:49:44,926
to then go ahead and pave that

6056
02:49:44,926 --> 02:49:44,984
shoulder

6057
02:49:44,984 --> 02:49:48,208
shoulder but the actual   construction

6058
02:49:48,208 --> 02:49:49,188
construction of the shoulder is

6059
02:49:49,188 --> 02:49:49,301
not in this year's budget

6060
02:49:49,301 --> 02:49:50,238
not in this year's budget but

6061
02:49:50,238 --> 02:49:50,238
again

6062
02:49:50,238 --> 02:49:53,018
again there is some imaginary   utility money

6063
02:49:53,018 --> 02:49:53,076
utility money there.

6064
02:49:53,076 --> 02:49:58,160
I think I have covered all of   the items

6065
02:49:58,160 --> 02:50:02,209
the items there.  >>

6066
02:50:02,209 --> 02:50:02,541
>> thank you.  I

6067
02:50:02,541 --> 02:50:03,520
I support everything that you   are presenting

6068
02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:03,520
are presenting.

6069
02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:06,748
I think you do a great job with

6070
02:50:06,748 --> 02:50:07,792
our roads.

6071
02:50:07,792 --> 02:50:07,792
our roads.

6072
02:50:07,792 --> 02:50:09,540
I am so happy in the town of   essex,

6073
02:50:09,540 --> 02:50:11,177
essex, we partner with you for   many

6074
02:50:11,177 --> 02:50:12,162
many roads because your quality   is

6075
02:50:12,162 --> 02:50:12,269
is top-notch.  I'm thrilled with

6076
02:50:12,269 --> 02:50:12,328
I'm thrilled with that.

6077
02:50:12,328 --> 02:50:15,440
your service on snowplowing and   when

6078
02:50:15,440 --> 02:50:18,401
when it's raining and the roads

6079
02:50:18,401 --> 02:50:18,727
need to

6080
02:50:18,727 --> 02:50:20,801
need to be closed your cruise   are really receptive

6081
02:50:20,801 --> 02:50:21,573
are really receptive so thank   you

6082
02:50:21,573 --> 02:50:21,573
you.  I

6083
02:50:21,573 --> 02:50:22,990
I look forward to supporting   this and

6084
02:50:22,990 --> 02:50:23,969
this and then talking about all   of the other

6085
02:50:23,969 --> 02:50:24,028
of the other things.

6086
02:50:24,028 --> 02:50:26,267
thank you.  >>

6087
02:50:26,267 --> 02:50:27,470
>> thank you.

6088
02:50:27,470 --> 02:50:32,178
councillor gibb.  >>

6089
02:50:32,178 --> 02:50:32,610
>> thank you.  Thank you to councillor bondy

6090
02:50:32,610 --> 02:50:32,668
thank you to councillor bondy

6091
02:50:32,668 --> 02:50:32,723
for sew eloquently

6092
02:50:32,723 --> 02:50:36,111
for sew eloquently phrasing the   issue of county

6093
02:50:36,111 --> 02:50:37,699
issue of county road 50.

6094
02:50:37,699 --> 02:50:41,638
I know I have been conversing

6095
02:50:41,638 --> 02:50:41,689
with you, allen,

6096
02:50:41,689 --> 02:50:42,622
with you, allen, for a long time

6097
02:50:42,622 --> 02:50:42,622
  time.

6098
02:50:42,622 --> 02:50:42,622
  time.

6099
02:50:42,622 --> 02:50:46,718
it is a long stretch where we   invite people to

6100
02:50:46,718 --> 02:50:49,904
invite people to bike to our   wineries,

6101
02:50:49,904 --> 02:50:53,720
wineries, to bike through   amherstburg

6102
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:56,677
amherstburg and go to essex and   all the

6103
02:50:56,677 --> 02:51:01,938
all the way to leamington.

6104
02:51:01,938 --> 02:51:03,520
there is one specific spot that

6105
02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:03,907
if

6106
02:51:03,907 --> 02:51:05,161
if they don't know it's coming

6107
02:51:05,161 --> 02:51:05,600
,   they

6108
02:51:05,600 --> 02:51:07,358
they are caught unaware that   they have to

6109
02:51:07,358 --> 02:51:07,902
they have to merge into 80   kilometre per

6110
02:51:07,902 --> 02:51:07,954
kilometre per hour traffic.

6111
02:51:07,954 --> 02:51:11,339
I'm glad to hear that there is

6112
02:51:11,339 --> 02:51:13,527
money

6113
02:51:13,527 --> 02:51:14,511
money for the project.

6114
02:51:14,511 --> 02:51:16,533
I do realize that it is   exceedingly

6115
02:51:16,533 --> 02:51:16,644
exceedingly difficult, that   small

6116
02:51:16,644 --> 02:51:19,491
small section but that is   amherstburg for

6117
02:51:19,491 --> 02:51:21,073
amherstburg for you.

6118
02:51:21,073 --> 02:51:24,093
>> there is a positive note.

6119
02:51:24,093 --> 02:51:24,093
[laughter]

6120
02:51:24,093 --> 02:51:28,453
councilllor meloche.  >> thank you

6121
02:51:28,453 --> 02:51:28,453
>> thank you.

6122
02:51:28,453 --> 02:51:33,763
on the cwats program, I am   looking

6123
02:51:33,763 --> 02:51:35,132
looking at the capital expenses   as well

6124
02:51:35,132 --> 02:51:35,571
as well as reserves.

6125
02:51:35,571 --> 02:51:37,094
we have increased the program

6126
02:51:37,094 --> 02:51:37,094
this

6127
02:51:37,094 --> 02:51:37,471
this year, have we not already

6128
02:51:37,471 --> 02:51:37,528
significantly

6129
02:51:37,528 --> 02:51:37,528
significantly?

6130
02:51:37,528 --> 02:51:43,877
I am looking at page 101.

6131
02:51:43,877 --> 02:51:55,138
and I am trying to understand

6132
02:51:55,138 --> 02:51:55,190
is   that increase

6133
02:51:55,190 --> 02:51:56,501
that increase is to continue on   to these pieces that have

6134
02:51:56,501 --> 02:51:56,612
to these pieces that have been   mentioned

6135
02:51:56,612 --> 02:51:59,463
mentioned or if this extra fund

6136
02:51:59,463 --> 02:51:59,516
is to

6137
02:51:59,516 --> 02:52:03,668
is to start addressing really

6138
02:52:03,668 --> 02:52:03,668
what

6139
02:52:03,668 --> 02:52:05,529
what will happen to these pieces

6140
02:52:05,529 --> 02:52:05,913
of infrastructure

6141
02:52:05,913 --> 02:52:06,790
of infrastructure as they come   for

6142
02:52:06,790 --> 02:52:06,948
for repair.

6143
02:52:06,948 --> 02:52:10,183
I know we don't have a real   policy

6144
02:52:10,183 --> 02:52:11,328
policy in place as far as   replacing

6145
02:52:11,328 --> 02:52:11,930
replacing that asset so I'm   wondering what

6146
02:52:11,930 --> 02:52:12,917
wondering what these funds are   for

6147
02:52:12,917 --> 02:52:12,917
for?

6148
02:52:12,917 --> 02:52:21,499
>> three you, warden, I am on

6149
02:52:21,499 --> 02:52:21,499
page

6150
02:52:21,499 --> 02:52:23,850
page 101 and I believe if you're   talking about the cwats

6151
02:52:23,850 --> 02:52:23,906
talking about the cwats program

6152
02:52:23,906 --> 02:52:24,832
,   that

6153
02:52:24,832 --> 02:52:29,923
that is appendix three.

6154
02:52:29,923 --> 02:52:33,582
I would divert you to page 161   if

6155
02:52:33,582 --> 02:52:35,278
if you are looking at cwats   specifically

6156
02:52:35,278 --> 02:52:35,880
specifically because that   program itself is

6157
02:52:35,880 --> 02:52:35,989
program itself is not increased

6158
02:52:35,989 --> 02:52:35,989
.

6159
02:52:35,989 --> 02:52:39,382
page 101 is the entire   construction and engineering

6160
02:52:39,382 --> 02:52:43,322
construction and engineering   where cwats specifically is
Appendix

6161
02:52:43,322 --> 02:52:43,322
construction and engineering   where cwats specifically is
Appendix

6162
02:52:43,322 --> 02:52:43,379
appendix d.

6163
02:52:43,379 --> 02:52:45,831
m a total levy requirement has

6164
02:52:45,831 --> 02:52:47,252
not increased in there

6165
02:52:47,252 --> 02:52:47,252
not increased in there.

6166
02:52:47,252 --> 02:52:54,143
, could you help me understand

6167
02:52:54,143 --> 02:52:54,312
on

6168
02:52:54,312 --> 02:52:55,463
on page 101 at what I am looking   at

6169
02:52:55,463 --> 02:52:55,463
at.

6170
02:52:55,463 --> 02:52:59,720
it says the capital expense for   cwats and then the

6171
02:52:59,720 --> 02:53:02,352
cwats and then the reserves for   the

6172
02:53:02,352 --> 02:53:05,189
the cwats program.  It went

6173
02:53:05,189 --> 02:53:10,174
it went to showing I believe   496,200.

6174
02:53:10,174 --> 02:53:10,174
it went to showing I believe   496,200.

6175
02:53:10,174 --> 02:53:12,737
is that an increase to the   reserves

6176
02:53:12,737 --> 02:53:12,737
reserves?  Without

6177
02:53:12,737 --> 02:53:14,384
without going to 161 because I

6178
02:53:14,384 --> 02:53:15,532
definitely

6179
02:53:15,532 --> 02:53:17,059
definitely --

6180
02:53:17,059 --> 02:53:20,501
>> we are looking at that but it

6181
02:53:20,501 --> 02:53:20,722
could be carryover

6182
02:53:20,722 --> 02:53:21,325
could be carryover projects and

6183
02:53:21,325 --> 02:53:21,815
that might

6184
02:53:21,815 --> 02:53:22,801
that might be why there is the   difference

6185
02:53:22,801 --> 02:53:22,801
difference.

6186
02:53:22,801 --> 02:53:23,350
we will confirm that with the   numbers

6187
02:53:23,350 --> 02:53:23,350
numbers.

6188
02:53:23,350 --> 02:53:28,707
>> no problem.

6189
02:53:28,707 --> 02:53:31,499
I can get that after.

6190
02:53:31,499 --> 02:53:32,372
further, obviously 2 items on

6191
02:53:32,372 --> 02:53:32,423
the extra

6192
02:53:32,423 --> 02:53:35,713
the extra list that are   significant

6193
02:53:35,713 --> 02:53:37,352
significant to me items ten and

6194
02:53:37,352 --> 02:53:38,002
14 and

6195
02:53:38,002 --> 02:53:39,321
14 and I am hoping members of   council

6196
02:53:39,321 --> 02:53:39,431
council will support those as   they've

6197
02:53:39,431 --> 02:53:43,362
they've been highlighted for 2   2 intersections

6198
02:53:43,362 --> 02:53:43,584
2 intersections that are in need   of improvements

6199
02:53:43,584 --> 02:53:47,138
of improvements and so my   question

6200
02:53:47,138 --> 02:53:47,850
question would be to you, I know   and

6201
02:53:47,850 --> 02:53:51,950
and here they say levy funded

6202
02:53:51,950 --> 02:53:51,950
but

6203
02:53:51,950 --> 02:53:54,959
but since they are one time,   could they

6204
02:53:54,959 --> 02:53:55,725
could they not be tax   stabilization

6205
02:53:55,725 --> 02:53:56,053
stabilization funded for those

6206
02:53:56,053 --> 02:53:56,162
2 projects?

6207
02:53:56,162 --> 02:54:02,728
>> sorry, I missed the first   part, appendix

6208
02:54:02,728 --> 02:54:04,309
part, appendix three?

6209
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:10,492
>> when we speak with alan about   the plan for these

6210
02:54:10,492 --> 02:54:13,771
the plan for these types of   safety designs

6211
02:54:13,771 --> 02:54:14,751
safety designs and things like

6212
02:54:14,751 --> 02:54:15,139
that

6213
02:54:15,139 --> 02:54:16,287
that, but we have really   discovered is

6214
02:54:16,287 --> 02:54:20,005
discovered is it's not one time   items

6215
02:54:20,005 --> 02:54:21,862
items, it might be a one-time   item this year but the

6216
02:54:21,862 --> 02:54:21,919
item this year but the program

6217
02:54:21,919 --> 02:54:23,284
itself, when I spoke

6218
02:54:23,284 --> 02:54:25,970
itself, when I spoke to ellinas

6219
02:54:25,970 --> 02:54:26,462
seems to be about ten years

6220
02:54:26,462 --> 02:54:26,519
seems to be about ten years   worth

6221
02:54:26,519 --> 02:54:28,212
worth of projects that could   really

6222
02:54:28,212 --> 02:54:31,710
really happen, they are really   digging

6223
02:54:31,710 --> 02:54:33,079
digging into not so as of right

6224
02:54:33,079 --> 02:54:33,242
now, we do

6225
02:54:33,242 --> 02:54:36,691
now, we do not have a reserve

6226
02:54:36,691 --> 02:54:36,691
specifically

6227
02:54:36,691 --> 02:54:38,933
specifically for these types of   projects

6228
02:54:38,933 --> 02:54:40,076
projects because it something

6229
02:54:40,076 --> 02:54:40,128
new we've undertaken

6230
02:54:40,128 --> 02:54:40,128
new we've undertaken.

6231
02:54:40,128 --> 02:54:42,539
that is why in that listing we

6232
02:54:42,539 --> 02:54:42,701
have

6233
02:54:42,701 --> 02:54:45,164
have put it as levy funded so   that

6234
02:54:45,164 --> 02:54:46,582
that in the future, if there is

6235
02:54:46,582 --> 02:54:46,749
more

6236
02:54:46,749 --> 02:54:48,001
more of those which I think   there is

6237
02:54:48,001 --> 02:54:49,536
there is in the horizon with the

6238
02:54:49,536 --> 02:54:49,701
plan

6239
02:54:49,701 --> 02:54:51,615
plan, we have levy dollars to do   those

6240
02:54:51,615 --> 02:54:52,821
those same things and I wanted   to

6241
02:54:52,821 --> 02:54:55,170
to know with that as well that

6242
02:54:55,170 --> 02:54:56,482
is

6243
02:54:56,482 --> 02:54:57,904
is just for traffic lights and

6244
02:54:57,904 --> 02:54:58,612
things like

6245
02:54:58,612 --> 02:54:59,377
things like that were as   sometimes

6246
02:54:59,377 --> 02:55:01,133
sometimes when they go to the   design

6247
02:55:01,133 --> 02:55:01,352
design phase it's actually a   roundabout

6248
02:55:01,352 --> 02:55:01,461
roundabout they are suggesting

6249
02:55:01,461 --> 02:55:04,524
which is

6250
02:55:04,524 --> 02:55:05,941
which is 2 million to 5 million   depending

6251
02:55:05,941 --> 02:55:07,042
depending on how big it is so   really we

6252
02:55:07,042 --> 02:55:09,993
really we are trying to say   let's use

6253
02:55:09,993 --> 02:55:10,972
let's use levy dollars to build   up

6254
02:55:10,972 --> 02:55:11,851
up that program because we see   it as

6255
02:55:11,851 --> 02:55:14,036
it as a long-term program.  >> I understand

6256
02:55:14,036 --> 02:55:18,142
>> I understand and further that

6257
02:55:18,142 --> 02:55:18,690
we

6258
02:55:18,690 --> 02:55:19,502
we are going to crank this   program

6259
02:55:19,502 --> 02:55:20,713
program, we have started talking   about

6260
02:55:20,713 --> 02:55:21,912
about this program but we don't   have the dollars

6261
02:55:21,912 --> 02:55:23,993
have the dollars funded for and   are planning

6262
02:55:23,993 --> 02:55:24,436
are planning on it this year so   those

6263
02:55:24,436 --> 02:55:27,159
those two items could however,   be

6264
02:55:27,159 --> 02:55:29,736
be tax stabilization for this

6265
02:55:29,736 --> 02:55:29,789
year to

6266
02:55:29,789 --> 02:55:31,317
year to get them off the books

6267
02:55:31,317 --> 02:55:31,974
and as we

6268
02:55:31,974 --> 02:55:32,522
and as we develop this program

6269
02:55:32,522 --> 02:55:33,402
we will look

6270
02:55:33,402 --> 02:55:33,945
we will look at the next   intersections

6271
02:55:33,945 --> 02:55:34,719
intersections on the list, is   not a possibility

6272
02:55:34,719 --> 02:55:34,719
not a possibility?

6273
02:55:34,719 --> 02:55:38,268
>> yes.

6274
02:55:38,268 --> 02:55:40,181
using reserves is always a   possibility

6275
02:55:40,181 --> 02:55:40,505
possibility but for long-term   planning

6276
02:55:40,505 --> 02:55:42,090
planning it's better to use levy

6277
02:55:42,090 --> 02:55:43,299
dollars

6278
02:55:43,299 --> 02:55:44,002
dollars but it is a possibility

6279
02:55:44,002 --> 02:55:44,994
.  >> thank you

6280
02:55:44,994 --> 02:55:44,994
>> thank you.

6281
02:55:44,994 --> 02:55:45,488
the final question was item   number

6282
02:55:45,488 --> 02:55:49,473
number 18 on the appendix three   which is

6283
02:55:49,473 --> 02:55:51,118
which is the county admin   building

6284
02:55:51,118 --> 02:55:51,832
building generator study.

6285
02:55:51,832 --> 02:55:55,381
and I realize this is just a   study

6286
02:55:55,381 --> 02:55:58,222
study so there is obviously   still the cost

6287
02:55:58,222 --> 02:55:58,334
still the cost of the generator   replacement

6288
02:55:58,334 --> 02:56:02,273
replacement but if I am reading   this correctly

6289
02:56:02,273 --> 02:56:03,860
this correctly, it is saying   that

6290
02:56:03,860 --> 02:56:05,555
that if we don't move forward   with

6291
02:56:05,555 --> 02:56:07,967
with this, we may not have a   reliable

6292
02:56:07,967 --> 02:56:08,283
reliable energy backup power for

6293
02:56:08,283 --> 02:56:08,392
our emergency centre

6294
02:56:08,392 --> 02:56:08,392
our emergency centre.

6295
02:56:08,392 --> 02:56:11,951
that is a concerning thing to

6296
02:56:11,951 --> 02:56:12,003
think about

6297
02:56:12,003 --> 02:56:14,963
think about that our emergency

6298
02:56:14,963 --> 02:56:15,072
centre may not have the

6299
02:56:15,072 --> 02:56:16,661
centre may not have the power

6300
02:56:16,661 --> 02:56:16,661
needed

6301
02:56:16,661 --> 02:56:20,050
needed so this study I'm   assuming

6302
02:56:20,050 --> 02:56:20,651
assuming will identify where we   would move

6303
02:56:20,651 --> 02:56:23,382
would move with that and still   be

6304
02:56:23,382 --> 02:56:24,915
be years away before we would   even

6305
02:56:24,915 --> 02:56:25,685
even get to replace his, am I   correct

6306
02:56:25,685 --> 02:56:25,793
correct on that?

6307
02:56:25,793 --> 02:56:31,640
>> three you, warden, what I was

6308
02:56:31,640 --> 02:56:31,914
going to

6309
02:56:31,914 --> 02:56:33,500
going to say to the generator

6310
02:56:33,500 --> 02:56:33,500
study

6311
02:56:33,500 --> 02:56:34,595
study is that we would like to

6312
02:56:34,595 --> 02:56:34,647
determine our best

6313
02:56:34,647 --> 02:56:36,281
determine our best course of   action

6314
02:56:36,281 --> 02:56:38,043
action regarding our   administration buildings
Emergency

6315
02:56:38,043 --> 02:56:38,043
action regarding our   administration buildings
Emergency

6316
02:56:38,043 --> 02:56:38,096
emergency backup.

6317
02:56:38,096 --> 02:56:41,705
but we have to be mindful of our   commitment

6318
02:56:41,705 --> 02:56:45,252
commitment to the ieso, this   generator feeds

6319
02:56:45,252 --> 02:56:47,773
generator feeds back into our   grid

6320
02:56:47,773 --> 02:56:49,190
grid so we are being mindful of   that

6321
02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:49,190
that.

6322
02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:55,975
we have experience with issues

6323
02:56:55,975 --> 02:56:56,961
with the existing

6324
02:56:56,961 --> 02:56:57,397
with the existing generator so   planning

6325
02:56:57,397 --> 02:56:58,052
planning for the future, it is a

6326
02:56:58,052 --> 02:56:58,110
diesel

6327
02:56:58,110 --> 02:56:59,531
diesel generator.

6328
02:56:59,531 --> 02:57:02,651
it is much bigger than we   actually

6329
02:57:02,651 --> 02:57:04,234
actually need for the building

6330
02:57:04,234 --> 02:57:05,274
so we want to consider

6331
02:57:05,274 --> 02:57:05,383
so we want to consider things   like that

6332
02:57:05,383 --> 02:57:05,383
like that.

6333
02:57:05,383 --> 02:57:10,412
we want to consider that it's   located

6334
02:57:10,412 --> 02:57:14,353
located now on the east side of   the

6335
02:57:14,353 --> 02:57:14,684
the building and very close to

6336
02:57:14,684 --> 02:57:14,741
our

6337
02:57:14,741 --> 02:57:17,859
our air intake so we do   experience

6338
02:57:17,859 --> 02:57:19,278
experience some complaints when   they get fired

6339
02:57:19,278 --> 02:57:21,789
they get fired up and the diesel

6340
02:57:21,789 --> 02:57:21,895
exhaust gets in the

6341
02:57:21,895 --> 02:57:25,504
exhaust gets in the building so   it

6342
02:57:25,504 --> 02:57:25,614
it is a combination of planning

6343
02:57:25,614 --> 02:57:25,723
for the

6344
02:57:25,723 --> 02:57:28,133
for the future, picking the   right fuel

6345
02:57:28,133 --> 02:57:28,133
right fuel

6346
02:57:28,133 --> 02:57:28,133
right fuel

6347
02:57:28,133 --> 02:57:28,133
right fuel

6348
02:57:28,133 --> 02:57:31,307
source, putting it in   the right location

6349
02:57:31,307 --> 02:57:31,414
the right location and making

6350
02:57:31,414 --> 02:57:31,414
the right location and making

6351
02:57:31,414 --> 02:57:31,414
the right location and making

6352
02:57:31,414 --> 02:57:33,935
sure we

6353
02:57:33,935 --> 02:57:34,976
sure we do have proper backup   for

6354
02:57:34,976 --> 02:57:36,611
for our emergency operations   centre

6355
02:57:36,611 --> 02:57:36,611
centre

6356
02:57:36,611 --> 02:57:36,611
centre

6357
02:57:36,611 --> 02:57:36,611
centre

6358
02:57:36,611 --> 02:57:37,535
, a combination of things   but we

6359
02:57:37,535 --> 02:57:39,613
but we do need to plan and get

6360
02:57:39,613 --> 02:57:39,671
ahead

6361
02:57:39,671 --> 02:57:44,539
ahead of this, early estimates   for a

6362
02:57:44,539 --> 02:57:45,086
for a generator like this are in

6363
02:57:45,086 --> 02:57:45,194
the million-dollar

6364
02:57:45,194 --> 02:57:48,367
the million-dollar range so we   want to

6365
02:57:48,367 --> 02:57:48,804
want to get that information in

6366
02:57:48,804 --> 02:57:49,083
hand

6367
02:57:49,083 --> 02:57:49,899
hand so that we can start   planning for

6368
02:57:49,899 --> 02:57:50,004
planning for the future.

6369
02:57:50,004 --> 02:57:52,301
>> thank you.

6370
02:57:52,301 --> 02:57:56,300
hopefully we are all writing   down

6371
02:57:56,300 --> 02:57:56,841
down these numbers in appendix

6372
02:57:56,841 --> 02:57:57,225
three because there are several

6373
02:57:57,225 --> 02:57:57,225
three because there are several

6374
02:57:57,225 --> 02:57:57,285
things

6375
02:57:57,285 --> 02:58:00,723
things we've heard that are   items

6376
02:58:00,723 --> 02:58:02,144
items needed now and not looking   at

6377
02:58:02,144 --> 02:58:03,462
at another year from now before   we start moving

6378
02:58:03,462 --> 02:58:03,572
we start moving forward with   them

6379
02:58:03,572 --> 02:58:04,443
them.  Thank you

6380
02:58:04,443 --> 02:58:04,443
thank you.

6381
02:58:04,443 --> 02:58:07,285
>> thank you.

6382
02:58:07,285 --> 02:58:14,396
councillor akpata.  >>

6383
02:58:14,396 --> 02:58:16,092
>> we had a brief discussion   about

6384
02:58:16,092 --> 02:58:17,571
about this looking at how this

6385
02:58:17,571 --> 02:58:17,894
department takes

6386
02:58:17,894 --> 02:58:18,554
department takes care of our   cwats

6387
02:58:18,554 --> 02:58:19,317
cwats trails and things of that   nature and

6388
02:58:19,317 --> 02:58:20,908
nature and I had the privilege

6389
02:58:20,908 --> 02:58:21,946
and I realize

6390
02:58:21,946 --> 02:58:22,933
and I realize we don't know what

6391
02:58:22,933 --> 02:58:23,365
will be

6392
02:58:23,365 --> 02:58:24,466
will be happening in the future   because of the

6393
02:58:24,466 --> 02:58:26,098
because of the changes that are   coming

6394
02:58:26,098 --> 02:58:26,098
coming.

6395
02:58:26,098 --> 02:58:28,504
each of our minutes of polities

6396
02:58:28,504 --> 02:58:29,282
here have contributed to the

6397
02:58:29,282 --> 02:58:29,334
here have contributed to the   infrastructure

6398
02:58:29,334 --> 02:58:31,735
infrastructure, the assets or

6399
02:58:31,735 --> 02:58:31,787
whatever term

6400
02:58:31,787 --> 02:58:31,893
whatever term you want to use in

6401
02:58:31,893 --> 02:58:32,004
the trail

6402
02:58:32,004 --> 02:58:33,157
the trail network.

6403
02:58:33,157 --> 02:58:37,042
from your perspective, looking   to the

6404
02:58:37,042 --> 02:58:40,702
to the future as alan just said,

6405
02:58:40,702 --> 02:58:40,922
if

6406
02:58:40,922 --> 02:58:41,083
if the ontario government   continues with

6407
02:58:41,083 --> 02:58:42,726
continues with what they are   doing

6408
02:58:42,726 --> 02:58:45,239
doing and we are eventually   folded

6409
02:58:45,239 --> 02:58:47,435
folded into the lake erie   regional conservation authority

6410
02:58:47,435 --> 02:58:47,435
regional conservation authority

6411
02:58:47,435 --> 02:58:50,273
,   I am

6412
02:58:50,273 --> 02:58:52,842
I am looking to understand   better

6413
02:58:52,842 --> 02:58:54,326
better what might be coming in   the

6414
02:58:54,326 --> 02:58:54,434
the future for the   municipalities

6415
02:58:54,434 --> 02:58:56,285
municipalities and contributing   to

6416
02:58:56,285 --> 02:58:59,574
to the assets to keep hold of   what we

6417
02:58:59,574 --> 02:58:59,733
what we have so that we can   still

6418
02:58:59,733 --> 02:59:03,725
still control these jams that   are in essex

6419
02:59:03,725 --> 02:59:04,443
are in essex county.

6420
02:59:04,443 --> 02:59:05,914
just a comment because I would   like

6421
02:59:05,914 --> 02:59:07,554
like to think to what might   happen

6422
02:59:07,554 --> 02:59:07,773
happen to this budget next year

6423
02:59:07,773 --> 02:59:09,414
,   thank you

6424
02:59:09,414 --> 02:59:10,287
thank you.  >>

6425
02:59:10,287 --> 02:59:16,964
>> three you -- through you, the   devil

6426
02:59:16,964 --> 02:59:17,615
devil is in the details of this   amalgamation

6427
02:59:17,615 --> 02:59:21,502
amalgamation move, I was   contacted

6428
02:59:21,502 --> 02:59:22,754
contacted by the west ontario   wardens

6429
02:59:22,754 --> 02:59:24,184
wardens caucus to weigh in from

6430
02:59:24,184 --> 02:59:24,672
the

6431
02:59:24,672 --> 02:59:26,642
the county's perspective on   assets

6432
02:59:26,642 --> 02:59:27,353
assets owned by conservation   authorities.

6433
02:59:27,353 --> 02:59:27,353
assets owned by conservation   authorities.

6434
02:59:27,353 --> 02:59:30,907
there may be a lack of full   awareness

6435
02:59:30,907 --> 02:59:31,294
awareness at the provincial   level

6436
02:59:31,294 --> 02:59:33,422
level of the amount of assets

6437
02:59:33,422 --> 02:59:33,475
that varies conservation
Authorities

6438
02:59:33,475 --> 02:59:33,475
that varies conservation
Authorities

6439
02:59:33,475 --> 02:59:37,193
authorities own and in essex   essex county

6440
02:59:37,193 --> 02:59:40,801
essex county, the owner of three   greenway

6441
02:59:40,801 --> 02:59:43,214
greenway systems tied directly   into

6442
02:59:43,214 --> 02:59:45,289
into our complement of the cwats   trail

6443
02:59:45,289 --> 02:59:49,884
trail that the county and it has

6444
02:59:49,884 --> 02:59:49,998
been a gem

6445
02:59:49,998 --> 02:59:52,293
been a gem of our region so we   certainly have a

6446
02:59:52,293 --> 02:59:53,765
certainly have a concern around

6447
02:59:53,765 --> 02:59:54,863
the

6448
02:59:54,863 --> 02:59:55,952
the ownership of those assets

6449
02:59:55,952 --> 02:59:56,004
going forward under a

6450
02:59:56,004 --> 02:59:56,114
going forward under a new   governance

6451
02:59:56,114 --> 02:59:58,856
governance model that may wrap   us up into a

6452
02:59:58,856 --> 03:00:00,444
us up into a larger geography.

6453
03:00:00,444 --> 03:00:00,444
beyond

6454
03:00:00,444 --> 03:00:03,832
beyond the greenway assets,   there

6455
03:00:03,832 --> 03:00:06,131
there is also heritage and   cultural

6456
03:00:06,131 --> 03:00:07,935
cultural assets at the   conservation authority

6457
03:00:07,935 --> 03:00:08,043
conservation authority owns and   manages as an

6458
03:00:08,043 --> 03:00:09,955
manages as an example, john.

6459
03:00:09,955 --> 03:00:14,166
these are things that I have   highlighted

6460
03:00:14,166 --> 03:00:15,915
highlighted to advocate on our   behalf to ask some specific

6461
03:00:15,915 --> 03:00:16,025
behalf to ask some specific   questions of the

6462
03:00:16,025 --> 03:00:18,547
questions of the province of   what

6463
03:00:18,547 --> 03:00:18,651
what is their vision for these

6464
03:00:18,651 --> 03:00:18,705


6465
03:00:18,705 --> 03:00:18,705
assets.

6466
03:00:18,705 --> 03:00:21,383
the concern that we have is that   the

6467
03:00:21,383 --> 03:00:25,646
the province may bucket some of   these assets into nonmandatory

6468
03:00:25,646 --> 03:00:25,646
these assets into nonmandatory

6469
03:00:25,646 --> 03:00:25,704
conservation

6470
03:00:25,704 --> 03:00:28,004
conservation authority   jurisdiction

6471
03:00:28,004 --> 03:00:32,326
jurisdiction and that then will   need to

6472
03:00:32,326 --> 03:00:33,525
need to be a conversation around   the appetite for

6473
03:00:33,525 --> 03:00:33,635
the appetite for a municipality  municipality's to

6474
03:00:33,635 --> 03:00:36,643
municipality's to either take

6475
03:00:36,643 --> 03:00:36,643
these

6476
03:00:36,643 --> 03:00:36,805
these assets on and continue to

6477
03:00:36,805 --> 03:00:36,915
manage and own

6478
03:00:36,915 --> 03:00:39,438
manage and own them or what   their future life might look

6479
03:00:39,438 --> 03:00:39,493
their future life might look   like

6480
03:00:39,493 --> 03:00:39,493
like.

6481
03:00:39,493 --> 03:00:43,864
as those conversations progress,

6482
03:00:43,864 --> 03:00:44,682
please know that the county is

6483
03:00:44,682 --> 03:00:44,682
please know that the county is

6484
03:00:44,682 --> 03:00:44,788
forwarding information

6485
03:00:44,788 --> 03:00:45,885
forwarding information in   collaboration

6486
03:00:45,885 --> 03:00:47,858
collaboration.  I have

6487
03:00:47,858 --> 03:00:50,974
I have been in contacti  with

6488
03:00:50,974 --> 03:00:51,026
tim,   the ceo,

6489
03:00:51,026 --> 03:00:52,324
the ceo, tohave been in contact

6490
03:00:52,324 --> 03:00:52,909
with tim explain   burning

6491
03:00:52,909 --> 03:00:53,428
burning that request   for information

6492
03:00:53,428 --> 03:00:53,742
for information, from the the ceo

6493
03:00:53,742 --> 03:00:55,017
to explain that county.

6494
03:00:55,017 --> 03:00:55,381
request for information

6495
03:00:55,381 --> 03:00:55,709
request for information from the   county

6496
03:00:55,709 --> 03:00:58,083
countyand. More information to

6497
03:00:58,083 --> 03:00:58,083


6498
03:00:58,083 --> 03:00:59,143
and more information come but

6499
03:00:59,143 --> 03:00:59,283
to   we

6500
03:00:59,283 --> 03:01:00,308
we come do  but   we

6501
03:01:00,308 --> 03:01:00,865
wealso have a concern around   the ownership question

6502
03:01:00,865 --> 03:01:00,976
the ownership question of those

6503
03:01:00,976 --> 03:01:01,566
also have concern around the   ownership

6504
03:01:01,566 --> 03:01:01,684
ownership question of those   assets

6505
03:01:01,684 --> 03:01:02,454
assets   assets

6506
03:01:02,454 --> 03:01:02,454
assets.

6507
03:01:02,454 --> 03:01:04,643
.as we have more information,

6508
03:01:04,643 --> 03:01:04,643
we

6509
03:01:04,643 --> 03:01:05,684
as we have more information   will make

6510
03:01:05,684 --> 03:01:06,541
will make we sure we have    will make sure we have

6511
03:01:06,541 --> 03:01:06,555
will make sure we havean   updated

6512
03:01:06,555 --> 03:01:06,600
updated updated   reports

6513
03:01:06,600 --> 03:01:06,883
reports to council as report to county counsel   as it

6514
03:01:06,883 --> 03:01:10,110
as it relates it to relates the

6515
03:01:10,110 --> 03:01:10,276
operation   of infrastructure, planning

6516
03:01:10,276 --> 03:01:10,386
of infrastructure, planning   services and

6517
03:01:10,386 --> 03:01:10,582
services and   to the operation of
Infrastructure

6518
03:01:10,582 --> 03:01:10,582
services and   to the operation of
Infrastructure

6519
03:01:10,582 --> 03:01:10,641
infrastructure planning services   and

6520
03:01:10,641 --> 03:01:14,326
and perhaps perhaps that   amalgamation

6521
03:01:14,326 --> 03:01:14,435
amalgamation or roll-up of those

6522
03:01:14,435 --> 03:01:14,487
assets

6523
03:01:14,487 --> 03:01:15,754
assets that amalgamation a.

6524
03:01:15,754 --> 03:01:16,334
rollup

6525
03:01:16,334 --> 03:01:17,164
rollup of assets in

6526
03:01:17,164 --> 03:01:17,164
rollup of assets in

6527
03:01:17,164 --> 03:01:17,164
rollup of assets in

6528
03:01:17,164 --> 03:01:17,385
the county   operations

6529
03:01:17,385 --> 03:01:20,061
operations are by extension I

6530
03:01:20,061 --> 03:01:20,119
think there's conversation and
Opportunity

6531
03:01:20,119 --> 03:01:20,119
think there's conversation and
Opportunity

6532
03:01:20,119 --> 03:01:24,333
opportunity for locals to see

6533
03:01:24,333 --> 03:01:24,392
whether they want

6534
03:01:24,392 --> 03:01:25,166
whether they want a role to play   in those

6535
03:01:25,166 --> 03:01:25,284
in those assets as well.

6536
03:01:25,284 --> 03:01:32,927
greenway evolution they been   funded

6537
03:01:32,927 --> 03:01:33,805
funded by a number of sources   whether

6538
03:01:33,805 --> 03:01:33,865
whether through donations to the

6539
03:01:33,865 --> 03:01:33,865
foundation

6540
03:01:33,865 --> 03:01:40,159
foundation, local, municipal and   revenue

6541
03:01:40,159 --> 03:01:45,418
revenue from irca what you find   --

6542
03:01:45,418 --> 03:01:46,463
-- taxpayers of the region   invested significantly

6543
03:01:46,463 --> 03:01:47,168
invested significantly in these   assets and

6544
03:01:47,168 --> 03:01:47,346
assets and we want to make sure   we preserve

6545
03:01:47,346 --> 03:01:51,541
we preserve them.  >> thank

6546
03:01:51,541 --> 03:01:52,201
>> thank you madame morden.

6547
03:01:52,201 --> 03:01:53,937
I wanted to have the discussion

6548
03:01:53,937 --> 03:01:55,415
because

6549
03:01:55,415 --> 03:01:55,694
because this team touched on a   lot

6550
03:01:55,694 --> 03:01:57,281
lot of our recreational assets

6551
03:01:57,281 --> 03:01:57,400
and key components

6552
03:01:57,400 --> 03:01:57,400
and key components.

6553
03:01:57,400 --> 03:02:00,453
I think now is the time for us   to

6554
03:02:00,453 --> 03:02:03,649
to start to think as to what may   happen

6555
03:02:03,649 --> 03:02:03,649
happen.

6556
03:02:03,649 --> 03:02:09,401
a plan that's positive for essex   county but

6557
03:02:09,401 --> 03:02:11,369
county but I'm not going to hold   my breath.

6558
03:02:11,369 --> 03:02:11,369
my breath.

6559
03:02:11,369 --> 03:02:14,774
thank you madam morden.  >> councillor deyong

6560
03:02:14,774 --> 03:02:14,833
>> councillor deyong.  >>

6561
03:02:14,833 --> 03:02:16,356
>> thank you.

6562
03:02:16,356 --> 03:02:18,659
I have a couple of things.

6563
03:02:18,659 --> 03:02:20,901
I want to start with page 107   and

6564
03:02:20,901 --> 03:02:21,236
and I think it will be an easy

6565
03:02:21,236 --> 03:02:21,295
answer

6566
03:02:21,295 --> 03:02:26,652
answer but there's a list of   capital

6567
03:02:26,652 --> 03:02:28,355
capital expenditures and several

6568
03:02:28,355 --> 03:02:28,795
of the

6569
03:02:28,795 --> 03:02:30,922
of the items were budgeted in

6570
03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:30,922
2025.
They

6571
03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:30,922
2025.
They

6572
03:02:30,922 --> 03:02:32,573
they weren't projected to be   spent

6573
03:02:32,573 --> 03:02:35,363
spent in 2025 and there budgeted

6574
03:02:35,363 --> 03:02:35,583
again in

6575
03:02:35,583 --> 03:02:35,642
again in 2026.

6576
03:02:35,642 --> 03:02:40,303
so you just -- didn't do in 2025   what

6577
03:02:40,303 --> 03:02:41,786
what we thought we were doing   the capital

6578
03:02:41,786 --> 03:02:41,786
the capital expenditures.

6579
03:02:41,786 --> 03:02:46,227
I'm looking at specifically I   think there's pickup

6580
03:02:46,227 --> 03:02:48,191
think there's pickup trucks,   three of those

6581
03:02:48,191 --> 03:02:48,191
three of those.

6582
03:02:48,191 --> 03:02:54,609
there's mower and a sweeper   truck

6583
03:02:54,609 --> 03:02:56,953
truck, it's a little bit   different

6584
03:02:56,953 --> 03:02:58,166
different but there's several   items we

6585
03:02:58,166 --> 03:02:59,587
items we budgeted for in 2025   and

6586
03:02:59,587 --> 03:02:59,919
and didn't spend it.

6587
03:02:59,919 --> 03:03:03,695
it's in 2026 and because I don't

6588
03:03:03,695 --> 03:03:03,976
see the reserve

6589
03:03:03,976 --> 03:03:05,966
see the reserve or levy or   whatever are these

6590
03:03:05,966 --> 03:03:06,666
whatever are these items   carrying

6591
03:03:06,666 --> 03:03:07,606
carrying over or are they   reflecting her levy this

6592
03:03:07,606 --> 03:03:07,665
reflecting her levy this year?

6593
03:03:07,665 --> 03:03:07,665


6594
03:03:07,665 --> 03:03:13,140
>> through you a lot of these

6595
03:03:13,140 --> 03:03:13,259
we   are trying

6596
03:03:13,259 --> 03:03:14,504
are trying to order them when we   can

6597
03:03:14,504 --> 03:03:16,097
can but they're not coming in

6598
03:03:16,097 --> 03:03:16,156
in   the

6599
03:03:16,156 --> 03:03:17,921
the years of the dollars are not   being spent.

6600
03:03:17,921 --> 03:03:17,921
being spent.

6601
03:03:17,921 --> 03:03:19,560
it doesn't mean we don't need   them

6602
03:03:19,560 --> 03:03:21,471
them just you will see the   dollars being spent

6603
03:03:21,471 --> 03:03:21,743
dollars being spent in the   following year

6604
03:03:21,743 --> 03:03:21,743
following year.

6605
03:03:21,743 --> 03:03:25,911
and I don't know there's any   particular

6606
03:03:25,911 --> 03:03:27,443
particular item you are looking   at,

6607
03:03:27,443 --> 03:03:30,732
at, but some are reserves funded   on summer

6608
03:03:30,732 --> 03:03:31,170
on summer levy funded.

6609
03:03:31,170 --> 03:03:32,908
it's a mix for the whole program

6610
03:03:32,908 --> 03:03:34,113
  program.
>> I'm looking

6611
03:03:34,113 --> 03:03:34,113
  program.
>> I'm looking

6612
03:03:34,113 --> 03:03:35,970
>> I'm looking at the four   specifically I

6613
03:03:35,970 --> 03:03:36,299
specifically I mentioned because

6614
03:03:36,299 --> 03:03:36,518
he put

6615
03:03:36,518 --> 03:03:38,293
he put them on the 2025 budget

6616
03:03:38,293 --> 03:03:38,293
.  I'm

6617
03:03:38,293 --> 03:03:41,188
I'm hoping those at least are   all reserve

6618
03:03:41,188 --> 03:03:42,824
all reserve funded then.

6619
03:03:42,824 --> 03:03:46,023
if you want, I can give you the

6620
03:03:46,023 --> 03:03:46,084
specific

6621
03:03:46,084 --> 03:03:51,473
specific lines 3805.

6622
03:03:51,473 --> 03:03:54,950
they are all 3805, that doesn't

6623
03:03:54,950 --> 03:03:55,315
help

6624
03:03:55,315 --> 03:03:55,315
help.  [laughter]

6625
03:03:55,315 --> 03:03:55,315
[laughter]

6626
03:03:55,315 --> 03:03:59,117
although 3805 that have zero in   projected

6627
03:03:59,117 --> 03:04:00,155
projected are numbers 25 and 26   there's at

6628
03:04:00,155 --> 03:04:06,141
there's at least -- some would   be

6629
03:04:06,141 --> 03:04:06,643
be levy funded.

6630
03:04:06,643 --> 03:04:07,680
if we don't spend it we put it   to

6631
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:11,888
to reserves and 2025.

6632
03:04:11,888 --> 03:04:20,581
>> I expect it was in the levy

6633
03:04:20,581 --> 03:04:20,640
and 22

6634
03:04:20,640 --> 03:04:22,167
and 22 any five.

6635
03:04:22,167 --> 03:04:22,167
and 22 any five.

6636
03:04:22,167 --> 03:04:22,167
and 22 any five.

6637
03:04:22,167 --> 03:04:22,167


6638
03:04:22,167 --> 03:04:27,750
the fact that it was in the line

6639
03:04:27,750 --> 03:04:30,105
  line, I'm

6640
03:04:30,105 --> 03:04:31,362
line, I'm wondering are those

6641
03:04:31,362 --> 03:04:31,421
being full -- pulled from the

6642
03:04:31,421 --> 03:04:31,480
being full -- pulled from the   reserve

6643
03:04:31,480 --> 03:04:31,480
reserve?

6644
03:04:31,480 --> 03:04:36,343
>> they are.  >> the

6645
03:04:36,343 --> 03:04:37,997
>> the one I think is -- I'm   curious we budgeted

6646
03:04:37,997 --> 03:04:39,954
curious we budgeted 825 and   spent

6647
03:04:39,954 --> 03:04:43,345
spent 720 of that and were   looking

6648
03:04:43,345 --> 03:04:45,319
looking at 400 more.

6649
03:04:45,319 --> 03:04:46,457
I'm trying to understand those

6650
03:04:46,457 --> 03:04:46,575
numbers.

6651
03:04:46,575 --> 03:04:46,575
numbers.

6652
03:04:46,575 --> 03:04:49,810
I think 800 was two and it looks   like we

6653
03:04:49,810 --> 03:04:51,965
like we bought two and now we're   looking for another

6654
03:04:51,965 --> 03:04:55,669
looking for another one.

6655
03:04:55,669 --> 03:04:57,370
I'm seeing some nodding in the

6656
03:04:57,370 --> 03:04:57,428
audience

6657
03:04:57,428 --> 03:04:57,428
audience.

6658
03:04:57,428 --> 03:05:04,521
my assumption would be we put

6659
03:05:04,521 --> 03:05:04,581
in   two in

6660
03:05:04,581 --> 03:05:04,860
two in the budget last year I   believe

6661
03:05:04,860 --> 03:05:04,860
believe.

6662
03:05:04,860 --> 03:05:08,602
we put three in the budget last   year

6663
03:05:08,602 --> 03:05:11,672
year so two were purchased and

6664
03:05:11,672 --> 03:05:12,397
we're purchasing the

6665
03:05:12,397 --> 03:05:12,729
we're purchasing the third next

6666
03:05:12,729 --> 03:05:13,112
year

6667
03:05:13,112 --> 03:05:14,368
year and I'm assuming the costs   were higher

6668
03:05:14,368 --> 03:05:14,428
were higher than we anticipated

6669
03:05:14,428 --> 03:05:14,428
.

6670
03:05:14,428 --> 03:05:26,195
we will just confirm with some   numbers

6671
03:05:26,195 --> 03:05:27,772
numbers to make sure.

6672
03:05:27,772 --> 03:05:38,524
>> three u. Warden just looking

6673
03:05:38,524 --> 03:05:38,970
at the budget

6674
03:05:38,970 --> 03:05:41,258
at the budget, we did budget   800,000 for two loaders

6675
03:05:41,258 --> 03:05:41,318
800,000 for two loaders last   year

6676
03:05:41,318 --> 03:05:41,318
year.

6677
03:05:41,318 --> 03:05:45,247
we got them at a better price

6678
03:05:45,247 --> 03:05:45,307
than we

6679
03:05:45,307 --> 03:05:46,515
than we thought so we spent only

6680
03:05:46,515 --> 03:05:47,386
720,000 of that and

6681
03:05:47,386 --> 03:05:47,445
720,000 of that and we are   looking

6682
03:05:47,445 --> 03:05:50,562
looking for purchase of another   loader in

6683
03:05:50,562 --> 03:05:52,133
loader in 2026.

6684
03:05:52,133 --> 03:05:57,013
>> if I may, I just have one   more

6685
03:05:57,013 --> 03:05:57,072
more thing.

6686
03:05:57,072 --> 03:06:05,065
on page 159 under the -- I guess

6687
03:06:05,065 --> 03:06:05,884
it's the construction

6688
03:06:05,884 --> 03:06:05,943
it's the construction project   listing the

6689
03:06:05,943 --> 03:06:07,569
listing the second last item is

6690
03:06:07,569 --> 03:06:12,276
roadway

6691
03:06:12,276 --> 03:06:13,755
roadway expansion pickets as   heritage road extension

6692
03:06:13,755 --> 03:06:14,467
heritage road extension mccain

6693
03:06:14,467 --> 03:06:15,124
county

6694
03:06:15,124 --> 03:06:18,024
county road 22 road two west and   I talked

6695
03:06:18,024 --> 03:06:22,720
I talked with my colleague here   to

6696
03:06:22,720 --> 03:06:23,771
to figure out how heritage   extends from

6697
03:06:23,771 --> 03:06:27,813
extends from maine and road two.

6698
03:06:27,813 --> 03:06:27,813


6699
03:06:27,813 --> 03:06:30,235
is this the new road not in   there yet

6700
03:06:30,235 --> 03:06:43,470
there yet?

6701
03:06:43,470 --> 03:06:55,186
>> through you, we listed that

6702
03:06:55,186 --> 03:06:57,328
under our construction

6703
03:06:57,328 --> 03:06:58,791
under our construction budget.

6704
03:06:58,791 --> 03:06:58,791


6705
03:06:58,791 --> 03:07:03,563
it is particularly for the   intersection

6706
03:07:03,563 --> 03:07:04,179
intersection of heritage road   and county

6707
03:07:04,179 --> 03:07:05,803
and county road 20.

6708
03:07:05,803 --> 03:07:08,526
speaking with your   administration

6709
03:07:08,526 --> 03:07:12,138
administration of the town --   they

6710
03:07:12,138 --> 03:07:13,341
they said they were going to   move

6711
03:07:13,341 --> 03:07:14,699
move forward with improvement

6712
03:07:14,699 --> 03:07:14,758
at   the intersection

6713
03:07:14,758 --> 03:07:15,736
the intersection so there would   be a

6714
03:07:15,736 --> 03:07:15,795
be a county sheriff for that.

6715
03:07:15,795 --> 03:07:20,941
it's part of a bigger project   there working towards

6716
03:07:20,941 --> 03:07:21,099
there working towards in   heritage

6717
03:07:21,099 --> 03:07:23,405
heritage road north to   kingsville road

6718
03:07:23,405 --> 03:07:27,334
kingsville road two.  >> I appreciate

6719
03:07:27,334 --> 03:07:29,091
>> I appreciate that because it   doesn't

6720
03:07:29,091 --> 03:07:30,941
doesn't really involve road two   at all.

6721
03:07:30,941 --> 03:07:30,941
at all.

6722
03:07:30,941 --> 03:07:32,361
that's what threw me.  I'm

6723
03:07:32,361 --> 03:07:33,950
I'm not connecting these roads

6724
03:07:33,950 --> 03:07:36,963
.  Is the intersection specifically

6725
03:07:36,963 --> 03:07:36,963
is the intersection specifically

6726
03:07:36,963 --> 03:07:37,022
heritage on main

6727
03:07:37,022 --> 03:07:39,591
heritage on main street not even   a four-way and it

6728
03:07:39,591 --> 03:07:39,648
a four-way and it will be   upgraded

6729
03:07:39,648 --> 03:07:39,648
upgraded.

6730
03:07:39,648 --> 03:07:46,370
just one more thing I had   messaged sometime throughout

6731
03:07:46,370 --> 03:07:47,519
messaged sometime throughout the

6732
03:07:47,519 --> 03:07:48,777
year asking about county

6733
03:07:48,777 --> 03:07:48,836
year asking about county road 20   from

6734
03:07:48,836 --> 03:07:53,697
from heritage to think mccain   specifically

6735
03:07:53,697 --> 03:07:54,619
specifically about pay shoulders

6736
03:07:54,619 --> 03:07:55,339
  shoulders.
I don't

6737
03:07:55,339 --> 03:07:55,339
  shoulders.
I don't

6738
03:07:55,339 --> 03:07:56,761
I don't see it here and I think   the response

6739
03:07:56,761 --> 03:07:58,296
the response I got when I asked   about

6740
03:07:58,296 --> 03:08:00,584
about where it was on our plan   was

6741
03:08:00,584 --> 03:08:01,192
was for 26.

6742
03:08:01,192 --> 03:08:02,824
I don't see it here.

6743
03:08:02,824 --> 03:08:05,622
I don't see it on any of the   lists unless

6744
03:08:05,622 --> 03:08:05,683
lists unless I'm missing it.

6745
03:08:05,683 --> 03:08:10,834
road 20 from heritage to mccain

6746
03:08:10,834 --> 03:08:23,024
.

6747
03:08:23,024 --> 03:08:38,426
>> through you warden just some   clarification

6748
03:08:38,426 --> 03:08:38,426
clarification.

6749
03:08:38,426 --> 03:08:44,625
county road 23 to mccain or   heritage to

6750
03:08:44,625 --> 03:08:49,547
heritage to mccain.  >> my

6751
03:08:49,547 --> 03:08:50,955
>> my question was because I had

6752
03:08:50,955 --> 03:08:51,230
gotten

6753
03:08:51,230 --> 03:08:52,381
gotten questions about the   safety of biking

6754
03:08:52,381 --> 03:08:52,381
safety of biking.

6755
03:08:52,381 --> 03:08:59,238
more of our not done yet with

6756
03:08:59,238 --> 03:08:59,356
no   paved shoulders.

6757
03:08:59,356 --> 03:08:59,356
no   paved shoulders.

6758
03:08:59,356 --> 03:09:05,329
we have that doughnut with a   dense residential

6759
03:09:05,329 --> 03:09:05,887
dense residential out of town so   people

6760
03:09:05,887 --> 03:09:06,977
people bike on that.  I would have loved

6761
03:09:06,977 --> 03:09:07,037
I would have loved to have seen   that

6762
03:09:07,037 --> 03:09:09,730
that done which I argue nobody's

6763
03:09:09,730 --> 03:09:09,789
biking

6764
03:09:09,789 --> 03:09:11,313
biking on.

6765
03:09:11,313 --> 03:09:14,548
when I asked about specifically

6766
03:09:14,548 --> 03:09:14,766
when this

6767
03:09:14,766 --> 03:09:15,043
when this might come up in our   plan for

6768
03:09:15,043 --> 03:09:19,151
plan for that I was sure that it   was

6769
03:09:19,151 --> 03:09:19,210
was 26.

6770
03:09:19,210 --> 03:09:21,609
do we add those shoulders at the   same

6771
03:09:21,609 --> 03:09:26,951
same time that come after --

6772
03:09:26,951 --> 03:09:28,642
>> through you a doesn't look

6773
03:09:28,642 --> 03:09:28,642
like

6774
03:09:28,642 --> 03:09:32,101
like we included that in our 26   budget

6775
03:09:32,101 --> 03:09:32,101
budget.

6776
03:09:32,101 --> 03:09:33,531
typically we would put paved   shoulders

6777
03:09:33,531 --> 03:09:35,655
shoulders on at the same time

6778
03:09:35,655 --> 03:09:36,527
as   we

6779
03:09:36,527 --> 03:09:37,246
we do the resurfacing.  And the odd situation

6780
03:09:37,246 --> 03:09:40,711
and the odd situation we have

6781
03:09:40,711 --> 03:09:40,711
paid

6782
03:09:40,711 --> 03:09:40,986
paid shoulders as standalone   projects

6783
03:09:40,986 --> 03:09:40,986
projects.

6784
03:09:40,986 --> 03:09:45,371
>> when we are talking about the   various

6785
03:09:45,371 --> 03:09:51,222
various places counter road 18   was

6786
03:09:51,222 --> 03:09:51,935
was upgraded as the road and we

6787
03:09:51,935 --> 03:09:51,993
put the

6788
03:09:51,993 --> 03:09:54,578
put the trail and don't have a

6789
03:09:54,578 --> 03:09:56,037
plan

6790
03:09:56,037 --> 03:09:58,461
plan or how to fund this going

6791
03:09:58,461 --> 03:09:59,074
forward and

6792
03:09:59,074 --> 03:10:00,175
forward and I think we will have

6793
03:10:00,175 --> 03:10:00,890
to

6794
03:10:00,890 --> 03:10:02,699
to start prioritizing were   people

6795
03:10:02,699 --> 03:10:02,757
people are actually biking   verses were

6796
03:10:02,757 --> 03:10:05,983
verses were doing the road let's   pave the shoulders picker member

6797
03:10:05,983 --> 03:10:05,983
pave the shoulders picker member

6798
03:10:05,983 --> 03:10:06,042
arguing

6799
03:10:06,042 --> 03:10:08,869
arguing last budgeted take it

6800
03:10:08,869 --> 03:10:08,869
off

6801
03:10:08,869 --> 03:10:11,560
off and I voted down against and

6802
03:10:11,560 --> 03:10:11,619
would've loved

6803
03:10:11,619 --> 03:10:12,761
would've loved to see the   dollars

6804
03:10:12,761 --> 03:10:14,021
dollars go to this road which is   actually

6805
03:10:14,021 --> 03:10:14,181
actually connecting residential

6806
03:10:14,181 --> 03:10:17,082
to

6807
03:10:17,082 --> 03:10:17,737
to downtown and would've been   way more

6808
03:10:17,737 --> 03:10:17,837
way more beneficial.

6809
03:10:17,837 --> 03:10:22,172
it didn't make the 26 budget.  As it

6810
03:10:22,172 --> 03:10:22,390
as it may be going to be on next

6811
03:10:22,390 --> 03:10:23,857
year

6812
03:10:23,857 --> 03:10:23,857
year.  I

6813
03:10:23,857 --> 03:10:25,830
I want the residents asking me

6814
03:10:25,830 --> 03:10:26,536
when it

6815
03:10:26,536 --> 03:10:27,088
when it doesn't get done because   I

6816
03:10:27,088 --> 03:10:28,030
I shared with them it was going

6817
03:10:28,030 --> 03:10:28,248
to

6818
03:10:28,248 --> 03:10:29,517
to be on the 26 budget.

6819
03:10:29,517 --> 03:10:31,415
is it on the 27?

6820
03:10:31,415 --> 03:10:31,915
do we know?  Is

6821
03:10:31,915 --> 03:10:32,134
is it on the horizon?

6822
03:10:32,134 --> 03:10:36,298
>> through you as I understand

6823
03:10:36,298 --> 03:10:37,115
it

6824
03:10:37,115 --> 03:10:39,375
it it's on the 27 horizon.

6825
03:10:39,375 --> 03:10:45,114
it also has a local component

6826
03:10:45,114 --> 03:10:45,173
so   the

6827
03:10:45,173 --> 03:10:46,259
the town of kings well we'll   have

6828
03:10:46,259 --> 03:10:46,318
have to included on the budget

6829
03:10:46,318 --> 03:10:46,476
as well

6830
03:10:46,476 --> 03:10:46,476
as well.

6831
03:10:46,476 --> 03:10:55,012
>> anyone else?

6832
03:10:55,012 --> 03:10:59,335
>> through you just a question   if

6833
03:10:59,335 --> 03:11:02,556
if you could look at the budget   narrative of

6834
03:11:02,556 --> 03:11:04,143
narrative of page 9 talking   about

6835
03:11:04,143 --> 03:11:06,660
about the transit feasibility

6836
03:11:06,660 --> 03:11:06,660
study

6837
03:11:06,660 --> 03:11:06,660
study.  Is

6838
03:11:06,660 --> 03:11:07,694
is there a typo that were talks

6839
03:11:07,694 --> 03:11:09,174
about

6840
03:11:09,174 --> 03:11:12,075
about the regional transit   working group

6841
03:11:12,075 --> 03:11:12,724
working group will continue   discussions

6842
03:11:12,724 --> 03:11:13,830
discussions in 2026.

6843
03:11:13,830 --> 03:11:19,067
council approved to begin a   trans visibility study.

6844
03:11:19,067 --> 03:11:19,067
trans visibility study.

6845
03:11:19,067 --> 03:11:22,142
is that 2025 or am I reading   that incorrect

6846
03:11:22,142 --> 03:11:22,142
that incorrect?

6847
03:11:22,142 --> 03:11:28,045
>> through you could you repeat

6848
03:11:28,045 --> 03:11:29,686
.  >> it's page 9 of

6849
03:11:29,686 --> 03:11:29,745
>> it's page 9 of 13 on the   narrative

6850
03:11:29,745 --> 03:11:31,259
narrative report.

6851
03:11:31,259 --> 03:11:38,334
it talks about council approved

6852
03:11:38,334 --> 03:11:38,393
100,000 in

6853
03:11:38,393 --> 03:11:41,566
100,000 in 2026 to begin and I   transit feasibility

6854
03:11:41,566 --> 03:11:41,664
transit feasibility study.

6855
03:11:41,664 --> 03:11:51,114
is that 2025, is that a typo or

6856
03:11:51,114 --> 03:11:51,710
.    Is that correct.
>> through

6857
03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:51,710
.    Is that correct.
>> through

6858
03:11:51,710 --> 03:11:52,542
>> through you we did have the   discussion in

6859
03:11:52,542 --> 03:11:56,328
discussion in 2025 about the   transit and

6860
03:11:56,328 --> 03:11:58,018
transit and regional transit in

6861
03:11:58,018 --> 03:11:58,295
essex county

6862
03:11:58,295 --> 03:11:59,291
essex county and through that   discussion

6863
03:11:59,291 --> 03:12:00,664
discussion in the report I was

6864
03:12:00,664 --> 03:12:00,884
directed

6865
03:12:00,884 --> 03:12:02,155
directed to include an amount of   money of

6866
03:12:02,155 --> 03:12:05,979
money of the 26 budget to begin   a transit feasibility

6867
03:12:05,979 --> 03:12:06,037
a transit feasibility study.

6868
03:12:06,037 --> 03:12:11,275
>> so that clarifies that.

6869
03:12:11,275 --> 03:12:12,383
there's still the transit   working group.

6870
03:12:12,383 --> 03:12:12,383
there's still the transit   working group.

6871
03:12:12,383 --> 03:12:15,930
I was disappointed to learn the   leamington line

6872
03:12:15,930 --> 03:12:17,906
leamington line got denied this

6873
03:12:17,906 --> 03:12:19,368
year

6874
03:12:19,368 --> 03:12:21,516
year and even in the   municipality of

6875
03:12:21,516 --> 03:12:21,576
municipality of leamington I   think we

6876
03:12:21,576 --> 03:12:24,922
think we need to be serious in   terms of

6877
03:12:24,922 --> 03:12:26,334
terms of having data and look at

6878
03:12:26,334 --> 03:12:26,392
the

6879
03:12:26,392 --> 03:12:31,147
the cost so we can have regional   transit

6880
03:12:31,147 --> 03:12:31,762
transit in the county of essex.

6881
03:12:31,762 --> 03:12:35,308
we need to start somewhere so   this

6882
03:12:35,308 --> 03:12:36,890
this hundred thousand will go

6883
03:12:36,890 --> 03:12:36,950
towards continuing

6884
03:12:36,950 --> 03:12:37,610
towards continuing those   discussions and come back

6885
03:12:37,610 --> 03:12:37,668
discussions and come back with a

6886
03:12:37,668 --> 03:12:39,187
plan

6887
03:12:39,187 --> 03:12:41,975
plan and all local   municipalities

6888
03:12:41,975 --> 03:12:42,751
municipalities need to have skin   in the

6889
03:12:42,751 --> 03:12:44,066
in the game when we use the term

6890
03:12:44,066 --> 03:12:44,066
  term.

6891
03:12:44,066 --> 03:12:44,066
  term.

6892
03:12:44,066 --> 03:12:46,713
I know a lot do their own   transit but

6893
03:12:46,713 --> 03:12:47,753
transit but we need to be able   to connect it

6894
03:12:47,753 --> 03:12:47,753
to connect it.  We

6895
03:12:47,753 --> 03:12:54,165
we applaud on how it's ec way   and

6896
03:12:54,165 --> 03:12:56,686
and we got 161 kilometres yet we   cannot

6897
03:12:56,686 --> 03:12:58,831
cannot even figure out how to

6898
03:12:58,831 --> 03:12:58,890
do   regional

6899
03:12:58,890 --> 03:12:59,870
regional transit and we've been   talking

6900
03:12:59,870 --> 03:13:01,665
talking about it for decades.  More

6901
03:13:01,665 --> 03:13:02,385
more than a decade.  I'd like

6902
03:13:02,385 --> 03:13:04,902
I'd like to talk about -- I'd   like to

6903
03:13:04,902 --> 03:13:05,674
like to see that.

6904
03:13:05,674 --> 03:13:05,792
thank you for clarifying.

6905
03:13:05,792 --> 03:13:09,454
>> thank you.  Councillor

6906
03:13:09,454 --> 03:13:10,714
councillor rogers.  >> thank

6907
03:13:10,714 --> 03:13:10,933
>> thank you and through you, a   couple of points

6908
03:13:10,933 --> 03:13:10,933
couple of points.

6909
03:13:10,933 --> 03:13:16,065
county road 50 feasibility study   we

6910
03:13:16,065 --> 03:13:18,009
we had to know this was coming.

6911
03:13:18,009 --> 03:13:18,009


6912
03:13:18,009 --> 03:13:20,273
I know we are going through it

6913
03:13:20,273 --> 03:13:20,875
and

6914
03:13:20,875 --> 03:13:22,356
and it's coming to fruition soon

6915
03:13:22,356 --> 03:13:22,356
  soon.

6916
03:13:22,356 --> 03:13:22,356
soon.

6917
03:13:22,356 --> 03:13:23,663
maybe the first question is an   update

6918
03:13:23,663 --> 03:13:23,937
update of where we're at on it

6919
03:13:23,937 --> 03:13:23,937
.

6920
03:13:23,937 --> 03:13:28,507
>> thank you, through you we are   continuing

6921
03:13:28,507 --> 03:13:32,561
continuing to finalize the   feasibility study.

6922
03:13:32,561 --> 03:13:32,561
feasibility study.

6923
03:13:32,561 --> 03:13:36,169
that is looking at feasibility   of

6924
03:13:36,169 --> 03:13:40,818
of adding transportation to a

6925
03:13:40,818 --> 03:13:40,818
segment

6926
03:13:40,818 --> 03:13:43,287
segment of county road 50 in   kingsville

6927
03:13:43,287 --> 03:13:44,166
kingsville just east of   conservation

6928
03:13:44,166 --> 03:13:44,226
conservation boulevard.

6929
03:13:44,226 --> 03:13:46,796
we've had a public meeting with

6930
03:13:46,796 --> 03:13:46,855
the

6931
03:13:46,855 --> 03:13:48,381
the community.

6932
03:13:48,381 --> 03:13:50,962
honestly we're struggling a   little

6933
03:13:50,962 --> 03:13:51,021
little bit with the consultant

6934
03:13:51,021 --> 03:13:55,506
and

6935
03:13:55,506 --> 03:13:57,258
and working to get a product we

6936
03:13:57,258 --> 03:13:57,699
can

6937
03:13:57,699 --> 03:13:59,230
can share with the public and

6938
03:13:59,230 --> 03:13:59,289
would like

6939
03:13:59,289 --> 03:14:01,155
would like to thank the town of   kingsville and your
Administration

6940
03:14:01,155 --> 03:14:01,155
would like to thank the town of   kingsville and your
Administration

6941
03:14:01,155 --> 03:14:01,215
administration for working with

6942
03:14:01,215 --> 03:14:02,735
us

6943
03:14:02,735 --> 03:14:06,237
us through this project.

6944
03:14:06,237 --> 03:14:07,993
one thing I could share with   council at the

6945
03:14:07,993 --> 03:14:11,732
council at the moment is it   looks like prior

6946
03:14:11,732 --> 03:14:15,441
looks like prior to doing any

6947
03:14:15,441 --> 03:14:15,441
surface

6948
03:14:15,441 --> 03:14:16,276
surface work or trail   construction

6949
03:14:16,276 --> 03:14:17,367
construction there's likely   going to have to

6950
03:14:17,367 --> 03:14:17,427
going to have to be some   stormwater

6951
03:14:17,427 --> 03:14:21,328
stormwater's -- solution to that

6952
03:14:21,328 --> 03:14:21,769
and it

6953
03:14:21,769 --> 03:14:22,539
and it would likely be through   the municipal

6954
03:14:22,539 --> 03:14:22,598
the municipal drainage process

6955
03:14:22,598 --> 03:14:22,598
.

6956
03:14:22,598 --> 03:14:27,083
that's likely coming in the near

6957
03:14:27,083 --> 03:14:28,612
future

6958
03:14:28,612 --> 03:14:30,755
future for council at the town

6959
03:14:30,755 --> 03:14:30,814
of kingsville to consider

6960
03:14:30,814 --> 03:14:30,814
of kingsville to consider.

6961
03:14:30,814 --> 03:14:37,590
>> is there any items in this

6962
03:14:37,590 --> 03:14:37,590
budget

6963
03:14:37,590 --> 03:14:37,708
budget for that project?

6964
03:14:37,708 --> 03:14:42,617
>> through you, there is not.

6965
03:14:42,617 --> 03:14:43,880
we need to get through this   feasibility

6966
03:14:43,880 --> 03:14:45,469
feasibility study and bring that

6967
03:14:45,469 --> 03:14:49,209
recommendation

6968
03:14:49,209 --> 03:14:49,765
recommendation to county counsel   and because it was

6969
03:14:49,765 --> 03:14:49,926
and because it was so late in   the

6970
03:14:49,926 --> 03:14:52,599
the year we were not able to get

6971
03:14:52,599 --> 03:14:53,254
it

6972
03:14:53,254 --> 03:14:57,910
it into the 27 -- 26 budget.  >> maybe a couple of

6973
03:14:57,910 --> 03:14:57,969
>> maybe a couple of comments on   that

6974
03:14:57,969 --> 03:14:57,969
that.

6975
03:14:57,969 --> 03:15:02,540
hearing my colleagues talk about

6976
03:15:02,540 --> 03:15:04,849
road

6977
03:15:04,849 --> 03:15:07,084
road 50 -- it's to my knowledge

6978
03:15:07,084 --> 03:15:07,472
that

6979
03:15:07,472 --> 03:15:08,949
that the section hasn't been   brought

6980
03:15:08,949 --> 03:15:09,009
brought before council but this   is

6981
03:15:09,009 --> 03:15:13,544
is actually a section approved

6982
03:15:13,544 --> 03:15:14,090
by council,

6983
03:15:14,090 --> 03:15:14,149
by council, a feasibility study   has

6984
03:15:14,149 --> 03:15:14,308
has been approved for it.

6985
03:15:14,308 --> 03:15:18,902
there's understanding there's   drainage and

6986
03:15:18,902 --> 03:15:19,564
drainage and utility dollars for   that project

6987
03:15:19,564 --> 03:15:19,564
that project.

6988
03:15:19,564 --> 03:15:23,396
I think it's only where the   county has been out

6989
03:15:23,396 --> 03:15:23,520
county has been out and   identified

6990
03:15:23,520 --> 03:15:27,251
identified -- we know it's going   to

6991
03:15:27,251 --> 03:15:29,260
to be a big project but us   waiting

6992
03:15:29,260 --> 03:15:30,792
waiting and kicking the can down

6993
03:15:30,792 --> 03:15:31,074
another year

6994
03:15:31,074 --> 03:15:31,955
another year for me is we'd like   to see

6995
03:15:31,955 --> 03:15:32,014
to see some sort of dollar.

6996
03:15:32,014 --> 03:15:35,653
with dollars coming out for the

6997
03:15:35,653 --> 03:15:37,174
project

6998
03:15:37,174 --> 03:15:38,607
project my hope is from the   feasibility

6999
03:15:38,607 --> 03:15:41,899
feasibility study within the   same

7000
03:15:41,899 --> 03:15:43,152
same pocket maybe there's some   dollars

7001
03:15:43,152 --> 03:15:44,136
dollars there for us to continue   to move this

7002
03:15:44,136 --> 03:15:45,715
to move this project forward.

7003
03:15:45,715 --> 03:15:48,897
I'd hate for it to be a   stalemate

7004
03:15:48,897 --> 03:15:49,225
stalemate over another year   because

7005
03:15:49,225 --> 03:15:49,446
because we know there will be

7006
03:15:49,446 --> 03:15:49,505
a   lot of

7007
03:15:49,505 --> 03:15:54,308
lot of work and not doubting --   have

7008
03:15:54,308 --> 03:15:55,790
have to take some land there.

7009
03:15:55,790 --> 03:15:56,027
there's a lot of things that   will be done if

7010
03:15:56,027 --> 03:15:58,602
will be done if we move forward.  We delayed

7011
03:15:58,602 --> 03:16:01,900
we delayed another year then   it's another

7012
03:16:01,900 --> 03:16:02,123
it's another year and continuing

7013
03:16:02,123 --> 03:16:02,284
to

7014
03:16:02,284 --> 03:16:03,329
to kick it down the road.

7015
03:16:03,329 --> 03:16:05,402
maybe a couple of comments,   please.

7016
03:16:05,402 --> 03:16:05,402
please.

7017
03:16:05,402 --> 03:16:08,517
>> thank you, through you warden

7018
03:16:08,517 --> 03:16:08,517
  warden.

7019
03:16:08,517 --> 03:16:08,517
warden.

7020
03:16:08,517 --> 03:16:10,599
I believe there are differences

7021
03:16:10,599 --> 03:16:13,400
between county

7022
03:16:13,400 --> 03:16:14,938
between county road 50 and in   kingsville

7023
03:16:14,938 --> 03:16:14,938
kingsville.

7024
03:16:14,938 --> 03:16:20,312
one that comes to mind is I'm   certain

7025
03:16:20,312 --> 03:16:20,852
certain the project and abbess

7026
03:16:20,852 --> 03:16:21,517
berg is

7027
03:16:21,517 --> 03:16:23,001
berg is part of the current   network.

7028
03:16:23,001 --> 03:16:23,001
berg is part of the current   network.

7029
03:16:23,001 --> 03:16:26,479
it was one of the projects   further

7030
03:16:26,479 --> 03:16:27,245
further into the future and it

7031
03:16:27,245 --> 03:16:27,523
wasn't one of

7032
03:16:27,523 --> 03:16:29,134
wasn't one of the low hanging

7033
03:16:29,134 --> 03:16:29,134
fruits

7034
03:16:29,134 --> 03:16:30,870
fruits that we could tackle   easily

7035
03:16:30,870 --> 03:16:31,644
easily so it's been on the books

7036
03:16:31,644 --> 03:16:33,128
and planning for that

7037
03:16:33,128 --> 03:16:33,128
and planning for that.

7038
03:16:33,128 --> 03:16:39,753
the project in kingsville I   believe was

7039
03:16:39,753 --> 03:16:39,871
believe was set aside because of   the

7040
03:16:39,871 --> 03:16:42,666
the difficulties and because of   the work

7041
03:16:42,666 --> 03:16:43,332
the work they done on their own

7042
03:16:43,332 --> 03:16:43,391
to find another

7043
03:16:43,391 --> 03:16:47,169
to find another solution to   complete that active
Transportation

7044
03:16:47,169 --> 03:16:47,169
to find another solution to   complete that active
Transportation

7045
03:16:47,169 --> 03:16:47,228
transportation facility.

7046
03:16:47,228 --> 03:16:59,267
-- there was a solution   currently in

7047
03:16:59,267 --> 03:17:04,243
currently in play and I wouldn't

7048
03:17:04,243 --> 03:17:04,694
want to leave

7049
03:17:04,694 --> 03:17:05,911
want to leave council of the   idea they

7050
03:17:05,911 --> 03:17:07,323
idea they will be doing anything   in

7051
03:17:07,323 --> 03:17:08,462
in 2026 with that project.

7052
03:17:08,462 --> 03:17:10,179
it'll be brought back for   council's

7053
03:17:10,179 --> 03:17:11,758
council's consideration because

7054
03:17:11,758 --> 03:17:13,184
I

7055
03:17:13,184 --> 03:17:15,320
I am of the opinion that the   first that will be a

7056
03:17:15,320 --> 03:17:16,903
first that will be a drainage

7057
03:17:16,903 --> 03:17:16,903
solution

7058
03:17:16,903 --> 03:17:19,426
solution that likely get started

7059
03:17:19,426 --> 03:17:19,646
if

7060
03:17:19,646 --> 03:17:20,073
if things fall in line in the

7061
03:17:20,073 --> 03:17:20,132
right reports

7062
03:17:20,132 --> 03:17:23,531
right reports get written to the

7063
03:17:23,531 --> 03:17:23,749
different councils I could start

7064
03:17:23,749 --> 03:17:23,749
different councils I could start

7065
03:17:23,749 --> 03:17:23,810
this year

7066
03:17:23,810 --> 03:17:23,810
this year.

7067
03:17:23,810 --> 03:17:30,149
>> I like the word could.

7068
03:17:30,149 --> 03:17:31,240
thank you.  >>

7069
03:17:31,240 --> 03:17:31,299
>> anyone else?

7070
03:17:31,299 --> 03:17:37,539
there is a recommendation for   council that the

7071
03:17:37,539 --> 03:17:42,655
council that the presentation

7072
03:17:42,655 --> 03:17:42,714
infrastructure and planning
Services

7073
03:17:42,714 --> 03:17:42,714
infrastructure and planning
Services

7074
03:17:42,714 --> 03:17:46,167
services budget -- the estimates

7075
03:17:46,167 --> 03:17:48,854
for infrastructure

7076
03:17:48,854 --> 03:17:49,516
for infrastructure planning   services

7077
03:17:49,516 --> 03:17:50,638
services be received or received   and

7078
03:17:50,638 --> 03:17:50,697
and approved.

7079
03:17:50,697 --> 03:17:50,816
looking for your direction.  Councillor

7080
03:17:50,816 --> 03:17:54,910
councillor gibb.  >> received and

7081
03:17:54,910 --> 03:17:59,061
>> received and approved.  >> councillor gibb

7082
03:17:59,061 --> 03:17:59,061
>> councillor gibb.

7083
03:17:59,061 --> 03:18:01,686
looking for a second or.  Councillor rogers

7084
03:18:01,686 --> 03:18:01,745
councillor rogers pick any   discussion

7085
03:18:01,745 --> 03:18:01,863
discussion of the motion?

7086
03:18:01,863 --> 03:18:05,182
we will ask you to vote   electronically

7087
03:18:05,182 --> 03:18:17,840
electronically, please.

7088
03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:33,755
and that's carried.

7089
03:18:33,755 --> 03:18:39,541
it's now time for lunch so I'm   going

7090
03:18:39,541 --> 03:18:41,521
going to need a motion to recess   for

7091
03:18:41,521 --> 03:18:44,295
for a 30 minute lunch break.

7092
03:18:44,295 --> 03:18:45,394
it's 12:18.  I'm

7093
03:18:45,394 --> 03:18:47,141
I'm looking at 12:48.

7094
03:18:47,141 --> 03:18:53,265
a mover and a second or moved

7095
03:18:53,265 --> 03:18:53,325
by   councillor

7096
03:18:53,325 --> 03:18:53,810
councillor meloche.

7097
03:18:53,810 --> 03:18:56,071
seconded by council prue.  All in

7098
03:18:56,071 --> 03:18:56,230
all in favour.  I

7099
03:18:56,230 --> 03:18:58,699
I will ask you to sit for minute   because

7100
03:18:58,699 --> 03:18:58,916
because we have some   instructions.

7101
03:18:58,916 --> 03:18:58,916
instructions.

7102
03:18:58,916 --> 03:19:01,520
all in favour and nobody wants   to go.

7103
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:01,520
all in favour and nobody wants   to go.

7104
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:01,638
that's approved.

7105
03:19:01,638 --> 03:19:07,119
the note from the clerk is   please enter the

7106
03:19:07,119 --> 03:19:07,237
please enter the kitchen by the

7107
03:19:07,237 --> 03:19:08,746
main

7108
03:19:08,746 --> 03:19:11,335
main hallway, not the eerie room   for

7109
03:19:11,335 --> 03:19:12,373
for the lunch key when she's   asking council

7110
03:19:12,373 --> 03:19:13,994
asking council vote first.

7111
03:19:13,994 --> 03:19:15,221
don't you like to be the ones   that go

7112
03:19:15,221 --> 03:19:16,738
that go first?

7113
03:19:16,738 --> 03:19:20,187
were good?  Understood

7114
03:19:20,187 --> 03:19:20,187
understood?

7115
03:19:20,187 --> 03:19:20,187
understood?

7116
03:19:20,187 --> 03:19:39,445
great.

7117
03:19:39,445 --> 03:19:39,445


7118
03:19:39,445 --> 03:19:39,445


7119
03:19:39,445 --> 03:19:39,445


7120
03:19:39,445 --> 03:21:16,108


7121
03:21:16,108 --> 03:21:16,108


7122
03:21:16,108 --> 03:21:16,108


7123
03:21:16,108 --> 03:21:16,108


7124
03:21:16,108 --> 03:21:16,108


7125
03:21:16,108 --> 03:21:16,108


7126
03:21:16,108 --> 03:23:28,832


7127
03:23:28,832 --> 03:23:28,832


7128
03:23:28,832 --> 03:23:28,832


7129
03:23:28,832 --> 03:24:59,457


7130
03:24:59,457 --> 03:24:59,457


7131
03:24:59,457 --> 03:24:59,457


7132
03:24:59,457 --> 03:24:59,457


7133
03:24:59,457 --> 03:24:59,457


7134
03:24:59,457 --> 03:24:59,457


7135
03:24:59,457 --> 04:04:02,611
>> speaker-01: I'm going to   call

7136
04:04:02,611 --> 04:04:03,560
call the meeting to order.

7137
04:04:03,560 --> 04:04:05,029
is after 1:00.

7138
04:04:05,029 --> 04:04:06,606
we are going to start the next

7139
04:04:06,606 --> 04:04:08,145
session

7140
04:04:08,145 --> 04:04:09,767
session of budget with the essex

7141
04:04:09,767 --> 04:04:09,785
  essex

7142
04:04:09,785 --> 04:04:10,004
essex county library.

7143
04:04:10,004 --> 04:04:14,252
for that we have adam cracknell

7144
04:04:14,252 --> 04:04:14,485
chief

7145
04:04:14,485 --> 04:04:15,460
chief librarian to present the

7146
04:04:15,460 --> 04:04:15,925
2026

7147
04:04:15,925 --> 04:04:16,397
2026 budget estimates.

7148
04:04:16,397 --> 04:04:17,180
over to you, adam.

7149
04:04:17,180 --> 04:04:20,896
>> thank you, madame morden.

7150
04:04:20,896 --> 04:04:23,830
the 2025 was the first full year

7151
04:04:23,830 --> 04:04:24,189
of

7152
04:04:24,189 --> 04:04:25,622
of work toward the goal set up

7153
04:04:25,622 --> 04:04:25,870
in

7154
04:04:25,870 --> 04:04:27,721
in the recent essex strategic

7155
04:04:27,721 --> 04:04:27,721
plan

7156
04:04:27,721 --> 04:04:29,615
plan and that includes the   mission

7157
04:04:29,615 --> 04:04:30,606
mission statement before you.

7158
04:04:30,606 --> 04:04:32,613
the idea of the library being

7159
04:04:32,613 --> 04:04:32,848
a   space

7160
04:04:32,848 --> 04:04:34,021
space for discovery for all of

7161
04:04:34,021 --> 04:04:34,242
the

7162
04:04:34,242 --> 04:04:35,853
the heart of our committees has

7163
04:04:35,853 --> 04:04:36,090
been

7164
04:04:36,090 --> 04:04:37,670
been rocked -- brought to life

7165
04:04:37,670 --> 04:04:37,904
by

7166
04:04:37,904 --> 04:04:39,342
by the work our staff have been

7167
04:04:39,342 --> 04:04:39,575
doing

7168
04:04:39,575 --> 04:04:40,373
doing across 14 branches.

7169
04:04:40,373 --> 04:04:41,925
we see substantial measurable

7170
04:04:41,925 --> 04:04:41,925
increases

7171
04:04:41,925 --> 04:04:42,676
increases in engagement,   particularly

7172
04:04:42,676 --> 04:04:45,035
particularly with programming

7173
04:04:45,035 --> 04:04:45,035
and

7174
04:04:45,035 --> 04:04:46,414
and do user sign-ups.

7175
04:04:46,414 --> 04:04:48,286
for example, between february

7176
04:04:48,286 --> 04:04:48,286
and

7177
04:04:48,286 --> 04:04:49,546
and november of this year, we

7178
04:04:49,546 --> 04:04:49,546
welcomed

7179
04:04:49,546 --> 04:04:51,065
welcomed over 1000 new   memberships

7180
04:04:51,065 --> 04:04:51,825
memberships to the library.

7181
04:04:51,825 --> 04:04:55,223
I think this reinforces the   notion

7182
04:04:55,223 --> 04:04:56,914
notion that the library is an

7183
04:04:56,914 --> 04:04:56,914
important

7184
04:04:56,914 --> 04:04:58,106
important part of more and more

7185
04:04:58,106 --> 04:04:58,342
community

7186
04:04:58,342 --> 04:04:58,827
community members lives.

7187
04:04:58,827 --> 04:05:02,793
taking it a step further, the

7188
04:05:02,793 --> 04:05:02,793
essex

7189
04:05:02,793 --> 04:05:04,200
essex county libraries vision

7190
04:05:04,200 --> 04:05:04,200
statement

7191
04:05:04,200 --> 04:05:05,624
statement that you have here   emphasizes

7192
04:05:05,624 --> 04:05:07,224
emphasizes connecting its   patrons

7193
04:05:07,224 --> 04:05:08,179
patrons to information and   entertainment

7194
04:05:08,179 --> 04:05:08,179
entertainment.

7195
04:05:08,179 --> 04:05:12,363
our responsive service and   community

7196
04:05:12,363 --> 04:05:13,205
community embedded staff   contribute

7197
04:05:13,205 --> 04:05:14,300
contribute to positioning the

7198
04:05:14,300 --> 04:05:14,300
library

7199
04:05:14,300 --> 04:05:15,331
library as a cornerstone of   of county

7200
04:05:15,331 --> 04:05:15,585
of county services.

7201
04:05:15,585 --> 04:05:20,631
we are not emergency medicine

7202
04:05:20,631 --> 04:05:20,631
nor

7203
04:05:20,631 --> 04:05:22,096
nor housing but I think it could

7204
04:05:22,096 --> 04:05:22,348
be

7205
04:05:22,348 --> 04:05:25,032
be argued that the library   provides

7206
04:05:25,032 --> 04:05:26,033
provides critical service in   support

7207
04:05:26,033 --> 04:05:27,004
support of increasing quality

7208
04:05:27,004 --> 04:05:27,223
of   life

7209
04:05:27,223 --> 04:05:30,132
life for every resident of essex

7210
04:05:30,132 --> 04:05:30,162
  essex county

7211
04:05:30,162 --> 04:05:30,162
essex county.

7212
04:05:30,162 --> 04:05:31,882
we foster lifelong learning and

7213
04:05:31,882 --> 04:05:32,130
community

7214
04:05:32,130 --> 04:05:34,524
community engagement in ways   that

7215
04:05:34,524 --> 04:05:35,494
that few other organizations do

7216
04:05:35,494 --> 04:05:35,494
.

7217
04:05:35,494 --> 04:05:37,754
post-pandemic, we have continued

7218
04:05:37,754 --> 04:05:38,005
building

7219
04:05:38,005 --> 04:05:38,947
building woman meant -- momentum

7220
04:05:38,947 --> 04:05:39,196
toward

7221
04:05:39,196 --> 04:05:39,947
toward achieving the vision.

7222
04:05:39,947 --> 04:05:42,878
our staff delivered 2242   programs

7223
04:05:42,878 --> 04:05:43,887
programs between january and   november of

7224
04:05:43,887 --> 04:05:44,379
november of this year.

7225
04:05:44,379 --> 04:05:48,072
this was over 84,000 patrons   across

7226
04:05:48,072 --> 04:05:49,011
across the county.

7227
04:05:49,011 --> 04:05:51,520
by comparison in all of 2024,

7228
04:05:51,520 --> 04:05:51,770
we   had

7229
04:05:51,770 --> 04:05:52,958
had a 77,000 program attendees

7230
04:05:52,958 --> 04:05:52,958
.

7231
04:05:52,958 --> 04:05:57,035
we've already surpassed our 2024

7232
04:05:57,035 --> 04:05:57,255
totals

7233
04:05:57,255 --> 04:05:58,228
totals and had record-breaking

7234
04:05:58,228 --> 04:05:58,465
months

7235
04:05:58,465 --> 04:05:59,719
months in july and october of

7236
04:05:59,719 --> 04:05:59,719
this

7237
04:05:59,719 --> 04:05:59,969
this year.

7238
04:05:59,969 --> 04:06:03,991
I'm here today to ask for what

7239
04:06:03,991 --> 04:06:04,335
we

7240
04:06:04,335 --> 04:06:06,405
we believe is a modest increase

7241
04:06:06,405 --> 04:06:06,653
tied

7242
04:06:06,653 --> 04:06:07,871
tied largely to negotiated   changes

7243
04:06:07,871 --> 04:06:09,213
changes in salary and benefits

7244
04:06:09,213 --> 04:06:09,213
.

7245
04:06:09,213 --> 04:06:10,070
our net departmental requirement

7246
04:06:10,070 --> 04:06:10,541
has

7247
04:06:10,541 --> 04:06:14,823
has gone from 7,006,460 in 2025

7248
04:06:14,823 --> 04:06:15,040
to

7249
04:06:15,040 --> 04:06:19,931
to 7,165,280 in 2026.

7250
04:06:19,931 --> 04:06:21,946
this is not discretionary cost

7251
04:06:21,946 --> 04:06:22,196
growth

7252
04:06:22,196 --> 04:06:22,196
growth.

7253
04:06:22,196 --> 04:06:23,748
this is tied to salary and   benefits

7254
04:06:23,748 --> 04:06:23,748
benefits.

7255
04:06:23,748 --> 04:06:28,214
as you can see, staffing costs

7256
04:06:28,214 --> 04:06:28,588
account

7257
04:06:28,588 --> 04:06:30,257
account for the line share of

7258
04:06:30,257 --> 04:06:30,257
this

7259
04:06:30,257 --> 04:06:32,775
this budget at 71.8 percent,   followed

7260
04:06:32,775 --> 04:06:33,496
followed by material costs.

7261
04:06:33,496 --> 04:06:35,838
that is cost associated with   books

7262
04:06:35,838 --> 04:06:37,089
books and dvds and other   loanable

7263
04:06:37,089 --> 04:06:39,405
loanable materials, at about 12%  12%.

7264
04:06:39,405 --> 04:06:39,405
loanable materials, at about 12%  12%.

7265
04:06:39,405 --> 04:06:41,455
what this meant during the   preparation

7266
04:06:41,455 --> 04:06:42,298
preparation process for today,

7267
04:06:42,298 --> 04:06:42,549
we

7268
04:06:42,549 --> 04:06:44,255
we took a deep look at   historically

7269
04:06:44,255 --> 04:06:45,661
historically under spent the   budget

7270
04:06:45,661 --> 04:06:46,648
budget lines and reallocated   accordingly

7271
04:06:46,648 --> 04:06:47,760
accordingly to ensure that our

7272
04:06:47,760 --> 04:06:48,011
core

7273
04:06:48,011 --> 04:06:49,354
core functions are being met and

7274
04:06:49,354 --> 04:06:49,603
that

7275
04:06:49,603 --> 04:06:51,067
that there is very little fat

7276
04:06:51,067 --> 04:06:51,317
on   this

7277
04:06:51,317 --> 04:06:51,567
this budget.

7278
04:06:51,567 --> 04:06:57,511
as mentioned, the 2026 budget

7279
04:06:57,511 --> 04:06:57,511
includes

7280
04:06:57,511 --> 04:06:58,891
includes request for increases

7281
04:06:58,891 --> 04:06:59,139
of

7282
04:06:59,139 --> 04:07:04,357
of 128,000 dollars for wages and

7283
04:07:04,357 --> 04:07:04,716
another

7284
04:07:04,716 --> 04:07:05,792
another 30,700 for benefit cost

7285
04:07:05,792 --> 04:07:05,792
.

7286
04:07:05,792 --> 04:07:09,914
overall, the proposed request

7287
04:07:09,914 --> 04:07:09,914
accounts

7288
04:07:09,914 --> 04:07:12,180
accounts and amounts to 2.3%   increase

7289
04:07:12,180 --> 04:07:13,792
increase over the 2025 budget,

7290
04:07:13,792 --> 04:07:14,042
this

7291
04:07:14,042 --> 04:07:15,229
this level of increase would   allow

7292
04:07:15,229 --> 04:07:16,664
allow us to maintain our current

7293
04:07:16,664 --> 04:07:16,899
staffing

7294
04:07:16,899 --> 04:07:17,881
staffing levels, which in turn

7295
04:07:17,881 --> 04:07:18,115
allows

7296
04:07:18,115 --> 04:07:18,865
allows the library to continue

7297
04:07:18,865 --> 04:07:21,293
providing

7298
04:07:21,293 --> 04:07:22,447
providing quality, community   service

7299
04:07:22,447 --> 04:07:23,402
service at all 14 branches.

7300
04:07:23,402 --> 04:07:26,481
with that, I would be happy to

7301
04:07:26,481 --> 04:07:26,716
answer

7302
04:07:26,716 --> 04:07:27,199
answer any questions.

7303
04:07:27,199 --> 04:07:29,451
>> thank you.

7304
04:07:29,451 --> 04:07:30,456
questions for our chief   librarian

7305
04:07:30,456 --> 04:07:30,456
librarian?

7306
04:07:30,456 --> 04:07:31,237
councilor deyong.

7307
04:07:31,237 --> 04:07:36,526
>> I think I know the answer but

7308
04:07:36,526 --> 04:07:36,773
on

7309
04:07:36,773 --> 04:07:37,773
on the salaries, students from

7310
04:07:37,773 --> 04:07:38,559
2025

7311
04:07:38,559 --> 04:07:40,421
2025 of this budget a 200,000,

7312
04:07:40,421 --> 04:07:40,780
we

7313
04:07:40,780 --> 04:07:42,222
we didn't spend any of that   towards

7314
04:07:42,222 --> 04:07:43,194
towards not propose we will.

7315
04:07:43,194 --> 04:07:46,064
and we are looking for 328 for

7316
04:07:46,064 --> 04:07:46,315
26.

7317
04:07:46,315 --> 04:07:46,315
26.

7318
04:07:46,315 --> 04:07:47,442
so it is up $130,000.

7319
04:07:47,442 --> 04:07:50,587
even though we didn't have any

7320
04:07:50,587 --> 04:07:50,835
projected

7321
04:07:50,835 --> 04:07:51,352
projected for 2025.

7322
04:07:51,352 --> 04:07:53,661
but I see part-time is down by

7323
04:07:53,661 --> 04:07:53,911
almost

7324
04:07:53,911 --> 04:07:57,118
almost three something.

7325
04:07:57,118 --> 04:07:58,416
is that the difference?

7326
04:07:58,416 --> 04:08:00,546
>> there are a couple of items

7327
04:08:00,546 --> 04:08:00,795
here

7328
04:08:00,795 --> 04:08:02,058
here where we moved things   around

7329
04:08:02,058 --> 04:08:02,058
around.

7330
04:08:02,058 --> 04:08:05,128
the costing stayed the same, if

7331
04:08:05,128 --> 04:08:05,802
I'm

7332
04:08:05,802 --> 04:08:06,318
I'm not mistaken.

7333
04:08:06,318 --> 04:08:08,206
we actually sort of changed the

7334
04:08:08,206 --> 04:08:08,455
naming

7335
04:08:08,455 --> 04:08:09,443
naming on the budget lines.

7336
04:08:09,443 --> 04:08:10,761
there is another place where you

7337
04:08:10,761 --> 04:08:11,010
will

7338
04:08:11,010 --> 04:08:14,094
will see electronic data and   hosting

7339
04:08:14,094 --> 04:08:14,362
hosting services.

7340
04:08:14,362 --> 04:08:18,012
it has us asking for zero   dollars

7341
04:08:18,012 --> 04:08:19,016
dollars there but that funding

7342
04:08:19,016 --> 04:08:19,266
is

7343
04:08:19,266 --> 04:08:20,530
is actually moved to another   client

7344
04:08:20,530 --> 04:08:20,530
client.

7345
04:08:20,530 --> 04:08:21,841
is a more descriptive and were

7346
04:08:21,841 --> 04:08:22,090
appropriate

7347
04:08:22,090 --> 04:08:22,090
appropriate.

7348
04:08:22,090 --> 04:08:25,133
it is actually not a change in

7349
04:08:25,133 --> 04:08:25,352
the

7350
04:08:25,352 --> 04:08:27,023
the dollars we are asking.

7351
04:08:27,023 --> 04:08:28,798
please correct me if I am   speaking

7352
04:08:28,798 --> 04:08:28,798
speaking.

7353
04:08:28,798 --> 04:08:30,458
it's not a change in the dollars

7354
04:08:30,458 --> 04:08:30,708
we

7355
04:08:30,708 --> 04:08:31,950
we are asking, just moving into

7356
04:08:31,950 --> 04:08:32,200
other

7357
04:08:32,200 --> 04:08:33,214
other places where they are more

7358
04:08:33,214 --> 04:08:33,463
appropriate

7359
04:08:33,463 --> 04:08:33,463
appropriate.

7360
04:08:33,463 --> 04:08:37,367
>> that's what I figured.

7361
04:08:37,367 --> 04:08:38,693
students are part-timers and   that's

7362
04:08:38,693 --> 04:08:40,179
that's why the two lines are   interchangeable

7363
04:08:40,179 --> 04:08:40,179
interchangeable.

7364
04:08:40,179 --> 04:08:40,282
thank you.

7365
04:08:40,282 --> 04:08:42,308
>> anyone else?

7366
04:08:42,308 --> 04:08:45,001
deputy warden.

7367
04:08:45,001 --> 04:08:45,294
>> thank you.

7368
04:08:45,294 --> 04:08:50,755
thank you, adam for preventing

7369
04:08:50,755 --> 04:08:51,084
the

7370
04:08:51,084 --> 04:08:52,136
the ball it -- the budget.

7371
04:08:52,136 --> 04:08:57,703
the library board, we have many

7372
04:08:57,703 --> 04:08:57,956
councillors

7373
04:08:57,956 --> 04:08:59,254
councillors to sit on the   library

7374
04:08:59,254 --> 04:09:07,387
library board, a councilor from

7375
04:09:07,387 --> 04:09:07,646
la salle

7376
04:09:07,646 --> 04:09:08,746
la salle and leamington and   kingsville

7377
04:09:08,746 --> 04:09:08,746
kingsville.

7378
04:09:08,746 --> 04:09:12,418
I'm very proud working with this

7379
04:09:12,418 --> 04:09:12,671
budget

7380
04:09:12,671 --> 04:09:13,906
budget in terms of offering the

7381
04:09:13,906 --> 04:09:14,156
programs

7382
04:09:14,156 --> 04:09:17,250
programs and just to mention,

7383
04:09:17,250 --> 04:09:17,488
I   know

7384
04:09:17,488 --> 04:09:19,397
know throughout a him, there is

7385
04:09:19,397 --> 04:09:19,622
a

7386
04:09:19,622 --> 04:09:21,366
a lot of increase in terms of

7387
04:09:21,366 --> 04:09:21,366
the

7388
04:09:21,366 --> 04:09:22,885
the surplus books due to the   flood

7389
04:09:22,885 --> 04:09:26,008
flood and so a lot of these   discarded

7390
04:09:26,008 --> 04:09:27,296
discarded books have been put

7391
04:09:27,296 --> 04:09:27,547
to   good

7392
04:09:27,547 --> 04:09:27,798
good use.

7393
04:09:27,798 --> 04:09:28,812
there are several board members

7394
04:09:28,812 --> 04:09:29,063
that

7395
04:09:29,063 --> 04:09:30,297
that took advantage of having

7396
04:09:30,297 --> 04:09:30,297
community

7397
04:09:30,297 --> 04:09:30,547
community events.

7398
04:09:30,547 --> 04:09:34,217
I encourage anyone, if there are

7399
04:09:34,217 --> 04:09:34,467
any

7400
04:09:34,467 --> 04:09:36,411
any groups or people that you

7401
04:09:36,411 --> 04:09:36,411
know

7402
04:09:36,411 --> 04:09:37,873
know, please share the word,   contact

7403
04:09:37,873 --> 04:09:39,190
contact adam and he will connect

7404
04:09:39,190 --> 04:09:39,454
you

7405
04:09:39,454 --> 04:09:41,811
you with that and you can have

7406
04:09:41,811 --> 04:09:42,296
a   community

7407
04:09:42,296 --> 04:09:43,032
community free book giveaway.

7408
04:09:43,032 --> 04:09:44,233
thank you for fostering that,

7409
04:09:44,233 --> 04:09:44,233
into

7410
04:09:44,233 --> 04:09:45,263
into your staff as well.

7411
04:09:45,263 --> 04:09:45,333
thank you.

7412
04:09:45,333 --> 04:09:49,835
>> councilor bondy.

7413
04:09:49,835 --> 04:09:50,665
>> thank you, warden macdonald

7414
04:09:50,665 --> 04:09:50,665
.

7415
04:09:50,665 --> 04:09:55,114
it is a solid budget.

7416
04:09:55,114 --> 04:09:56,816
not asking for any real   increases

7417
04:09:56,816 --> 04:09:56,816
increases.

7418
04:09:56,816 --> 04:10:01,365
my question is more, we know the

7419
04:10:01,365 --> 04:10:01,597
herald

7420
04:10:01,597 --> 04:10:02,882
herald library had a division

7421
04:10:02,882 --> 04:10:03,133
c   in

7422
04:10:03,133 --> 04:10:04,495
in -- a deficiency in stop for

7423
04:10:04,495 --> 04:10:04,994
a   while

7424
04:10:04,994 --> 04:10:04,994
while.

7425
04:10:04,994 --> 04:10:06,075
are there any branches that are

7426
04:10:06,075 --> 04:10:06,643
lacking

7427
04:10:06,643 --> 04:10:10,360
lacking staff right now and if

7428
04:10:10,360 --> 04:10:10,625
so

7429
04:10:10,625 --> 04:10:12,935
so, is this something you are

7430
04:10:12,935 --> 04:10:12,935
looking

7431
04:10:12,935 --> 04:10:14,270
looking to be addressed in 2027?

7432
04:10:14,270 --> 04:10:23,106
>> if the question is do we need

7433
04:10:23,106 --> 04:10:25,701
-- I can always do more   with

7434
04:10:25,701 --> 04:10:25,952
with more.

7435
04:10:25,952 --> 04:10:27,391
I think maintaining our current

7436
04:10:27,391 --> 04:10:27,642
level

7437
04:10:27,642 --> 04:10:29,535
level of service, we are seeing

7438
04:10:29,535 --> 04:10:29,788
it

7439
04:10:29,788 --> 04:10:31,507
it pay off in 2027 we could look

7440
04:10:31,507 --> 04:10:31,758
at

7441
04:10:31,758 --> 04:10:33,258
at it over the course of 26.

7442
04:10:33,258 --> 04:10:35,008
if there were a need to adjust

7443
04:10:35,008 --> 04:10:35,256
staffing

7444
04:10:35,256 --> 04:10:36,254
staffing levels, we would   certainly

7445
04:10:36,254 --> 04:10:37,482
certainly come back to the table

7446
04:10:37,482 --> 04:10:37,718
and

7447
04:10:37,718 --> 04:10:38,504
and ask in 27.

7448
04:10:38,504 --> 04:10:43,036
>> it is something that of   of course

7449
04:10:43,036 --> 04:10:44,510
of course I will bring up at the

7450
04:10:44,510 --> 04:10:44,760
board

7451
04:10:44,760 --> 04:10:46,245
board but I wanted to ask that

7452
04:10:46,245 --> 04:10:46,494
question

7453
04:10:46,494 --> 04:10:47,740
question here as well because

7454
04:10:47,740 --> 04:10:47,991
we   know

7455
04:10:47,991 --> 04:10:49,237
know that numbers are going up

7456
04:10:49,237 --> 04:10:49,485
,   circulation

7457
04:10:49,485 --> 04:10:50,236
circulation is trending up.

7458
04:10:50,236 --> 04:10:51,985
I want to make sure the current

7459
04:10:51,985 --> 04:10:52,235
level

7460
04:10:52,235 --> 04:10:53,827
level of stuff like any other

7461
04:10:53,827 --> 04:10:53,827
service

7462
04:10:53,827 --> 04:10:54,824
service we provide is adequate

7463
04:10:54,824 --> 04:10:55,388
in

7464
04:10:55,388 --> 04:10:56,857
in that when we get new branches

7465
04:10:56,857 --> 04:10:57,124
as

7466
04:10:57,124 --> 04:11:02,072
as well, it could potentially

7467
04:11:02,072 --> 04:11:02,072
need

7468
04:11:02,072 --> 04:11:03,319
need more hours in the future.

7469
04:11:03,319 --> 04:11:03,319


7470
04:11:03,319 --> 04:11:04,869
that is something that I want

7471
04:11:04,869 --> 04:11:05,118
to   make

7472
04:11:05,118 --> 04:11:06,367
make sure we are looking at.

7473
04:11:06,367 --> 04:11:08,137
every time we get a new branch

7474
04:11:08,137 --> 04:11:08,387
,   there

7475
04:11:08,387 --> 04:11:09,861
there is a renewed energy in   that

7476
04:11:09,861 --> 04:11:10,097
that community.

7477
04:11:10,097 --> 04:11:10,407
so thank you.

7478
04:11:10,407 --> 04:11:14,467
whenever the discussion is right

7479
04:11:14,467 --> 04:11:14,467
  right,

7480
04:11:14,467 --> 04:11:16,839
right, I will make a motion to

7481
04:11:16,839 --> 04:11:17,089
support

7482
04:11:17,089 --> 04:11:17,595
support the budget.

7483
04:11:17,595 --> 04:11:18,119
>> thank you.

7484
04:11:18,119 --> 04:11:18,410
anyone else?

7485
04:11:18,410 --> 04:11:28,943
seeing there is no one else,   there

7486
04:11:28,943 --> 04:11:30,706
there is a recommendation before

7487
04:11:30,706 --> 04:11:30,956
council

7488
04:11:30,956 --> 04:11:31,957
council that the presentation

7489
04:11:31,957 --> 04:11:31,957
for

7490
04:11:31,957 --> 04:11:34,292
for the proposed 2026 essex   essex county

7491
04:11:34,292 --> 04:11:35,536
essex county library board   budget

7492
04:11:35,536 --> 04:11:36,540
budget be received, and further

7493
04:11:36,540 --> 04:11:36,791
that

7494
04:11:36,791 --> 04:11:39,266
that the 2026 budget estimates

7495
04:11:39,266 --> 04:11:39,515
for

7496
04:11:39,515 --> 04:11:40,483
for essex county library board

7497
04:11:40,483 --> 04:11:40,719
be

7498
04:11:40,719 --> 04:11:41,999
be received or received and   approved

7499
04:11:41,999 --> 04:11:41,999
approved.

7500
04:11:41,999 --> 04:11:45,120
councilor bondy, what is your

7501
04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:45,120
wish

7502
04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:45,120
wish?

7503
04:11:45,120 --> 04:11:46,778
>> may I please receive and   approve

7504
04:11:46,778 --> 04:11:46,778
approve.

7505
04:11:46,778 --> 04:11:50,407
>> moved by councilor bondy to

7506
04:11:50,407 --> 04:11:50,672
receive

7507
04:11:50,672 --> 04:11:51,174
receive and approve.

7508
04:11:51,174 --> 04:11:53,710
second -- seconder?

7509
04:11:53,710 --> 04:11:55,574
deputy warden.

7510
04:11:55,574 --> 04:11:58,488
any discussion on the motion?

7511
04:11:58,488 --> 04:12:00,055
seeing none, I will ask you to

7512
04:12:00,055 --> 04:12:00,304
vote

7513
04:12:00,304 --> 04:12:00,586
vote electronically.

7514
04:12:00,586 --> 04:12:11,286
that is carried.

7515
04:12:11,286 --> 04:12:11,361
thank you.

7516
04:12:11,361 --> 04:12:14,276
thanks, adam.

7517
04:12:14,276 --> 04:12:18,317
thank you, finance team.

7518
04:12:18,317 --> 04:12:23,067
next up, we have general   government

7519
04:12:23,067 --> 04:12:23,330
government services.

7520
04:12:23,330 --> 04:12:24,666
for that report, we have melissa

7521
04:12:24,666 --> 04:12:25,031
ryan,

7522
04:12:25,031 --> 04:12:32,727
ryan, our director of financial

7523
04:12:32,727 --> 04:12:32,976
services

7524
04:12:32,976 --> 04:12:33,587
services and treasury.

7525
04:12:33,587 --> 04:12:35,559
we have david something, our   director

7526
04:12:35,559 --> 04:12:36,294
director of legal legislative.

7527
04:12:36,294 --> 04:12:36,294


7528
04:12:36,294 --> 04:12:39,320
darrell la ronde oh, our   director

7529
04:12:39,320 --> 04:12:40,306
director of I.t. Information and

7530
04:12:40,306 --> 04:12:40,544
we

7531
04:12:40,544 --> 04:12:44,020
we have -- are we going to have

7532
04:12:44,020 --> 04:12:44,267
danielle

7533
04:12:44,267 --> 04:12:45,767
danielle or are you going to do

7534
04:12:45,767 --> 04:12:46,018
that

7535
04:12:46,018 --> 04:12:46,018
that?

7536
04:12:46,018 --> 04:12:47,550
danielle is going to do it.

7537
04:12:47,550 --> 04:12:47,550
okay.

7538
04:12:47,550 --> 04:12:48,394
interim director human resources

7539
04:12:48,394 --> 04:12:48,394
  resources.

7540
04:12:48,394 --> 04:12:48,394
  resources.

7541
04:12:48,394 --> 04:12:51,931
but there is no chair for you.

7542
04:12:51,931 --> 04:12:51,931


7543
04:12:51,931 --> 04:12:57,535
we are going to switch.

7544
04:12:57,535 --> 04:12:57,535
perfect.

7545
04:12:57,535 --> 04:12:58,160
over to you.

7546
04:12:58,160 --> 04:12:58,465
>> thank you.

7547
04:12:58,465 --> 04:13:02,208
the next department for   discussion

7548
04:13:02,208 --> 04:13:03,660
discussion is the general   government

7549
04:13:03,660 --> 04:13:04,618
government services area.

7550
04:13:04,618 --> 04:13:06,367
for this presentation of the   warden

7551
04:13:06,367 --> 04:13:08,820
warden alluded to, the four   directors

7552
04:13:08,820 --> 04:13:09,842
directors will present each   representing

7553
04:13:09,842 --> 04:13:10,626
representing their respective

7554
04:13:10,626 --> 04:13:10,626
areas

7555
04:13:10,626 --> 04:13:10,626
areas.

7556
04:13:10,626 --> 04:13:13,384
the general government   department

7557
04:13:13,384 --> 04:13:14,986
department is made up of several

7558
04:13:14,986 --> 04:13:15,254
key

7559
04:13:15,254 --> 04:13:16,475
key divisions that provide the

7560
04:13:16,475 --> 04:13:16,931
backbone

7561
04:13:16,931 --> 04:13:17,430
backbone of county operations.

7562
04:13:17,430 --> 04:13:17,430


7563
04:13:17,430 --> 04:13:19,616
as a whole, this department   plays

7564
04:13:19,616 --> 04:13:21,395
plays a strategic role offering

7565
04:13:21,395 --> 04:13:21,642
leadership

7566
04:13:21,642 --> 04:13:22,738
leadership, legal and financial

7567
04:13:22,738 --> 04:13:23,210
guidance

7568
04:13:23,210 --> 04:13:24,215
guidance and setting policies

7569
04:13:24,215 --> 04:13:24,215
that

7570
04:13:24,215 --> 04:13:25,272
that support all county services

7571
04:13:25,272 --> 04:13:25,272
  services.

7572
04:13:25,272 --> 04:13:25,272
  services.

7573
04:13:25,272 --> 04:13:28,172
the council services budget   couples --

7574
04:13:28,172 --> 04:13:29,415
couples -- covers council   remuneration

7575
04:13:29,415 --> 04:13:30,699
remuneration and all related   expenses

7576
04:13:30,699 --> 04:13:31,855
expenses, corporate management

7577
04:13:31,855 --> 04:13:32,305
includes

7578
04:13:32,305 --> 04:13:34,180
includes the ceos office and   legislative

7579
04:13:34,180 --> 04:13:35,767
legislative services which   handles

7580
04:13:35,767 --> 04:13:36,727
handles legal matters, records

7581
04:13:36,727 --> 04:13:36,976
management

7582
04:13:36,976 --> 04:13:39,226
management, medication and   organizational

7583
04:13:39,226 --> 04:13:39,474
organizational development.

7584
04:13:39,474 --> 04:13:41,594
financial services also oversees

7585
04:13:41,594 --> 04:13:41,831
procurement

7586
04:13:41,831 --> 04:13:42,891
procurement while information

7587
04:13:42,891 --> 04:13:42,891
technology

7588
04:13:42,891 --> 04:13:43,890
technology and tune resources

7589
04:13:43,890 --> 04:13:43,890
round

7590
04:13:43,890 --> 04:13:45,356
round out the team providing   essential

7591
04:13:45,356 --> 04:13:46,436
essential systems, tools and   support

7592
04:13:46,436 --> 04:13:47,143
support across the organization

7593
04:13:47,143 --> 04:13:47,143
.

7594
04:13:47,143 --> 04:13:57,157
as you can see on this slide,

7595
04:13:57,157 --> 04:13:57,157
the

7596
04:13:57,157 --> 04:13:57,896
the overall general government

7597
04:13:57,896 --> 04:13:58,132
area

7598
04:13:58,132 --> 04:13:59,310
area shows an increase of just

7599
04:13:59,310 --> 04:13:59,562
over

7600
04:13:59,562 --> 04:14:00,546
over 1 million, bringing the   total

7601
04:14:00,546 --> 04:14:01,532
total net department total   requirement

7602
04:14:01,532 --> 04:14:02,547
requirement to just over   9.5 million.

7603
04:14:02,547 --> 04:14:02,547
requirement to just over   9.5 million.

7604
04:14:02,547 --> 04:14:03,352
this change reflects adjustments

7605
04:14:03,352 --> 04:14:03,602
across

7606
04:14:03,602 --> 04:14:04,561
across all four divisions within

7607
04:14:04,561 --> 04:14:04,797
the

7608
04:14:04,797 --> 04:14:05,050
the department.

7609
04:14:05,050 --> 04:14:06,545
at this point, I will turn   things

7610
04:14:06,545 --> 04:14:07,550
things over to mr. David   something

7611
04:14:07,550 --> 04:14:08,537
something, our director of   legislative

7612
04:14:08,537 --> 04:14:09,287
legislative and community   services

7613
04:14:09,287 --> 04:14:10,035
services, county solicitors walk

7614
04:14:10,035 --> 04:14:10,285
through

7615
04:14:10,285 --> 04:14:11,496
through his area in more detail

7616
04:14:11,496 --> 04:14:11,496
.

7617
04:14:11,496 --> 04:14:16,734
>> corporate management reflects

7618
04:14:16,734 --> 04:14:16,970
the

7619
04:14:16,970 --> 04:14:17,936
the combined operations of both

7620
04:14:17,936 --> 04:14:18,185
the

7621
04:14:18,185 --> 04:14:19,995
the office of the cao and the

7622
04:14:19,995 --> 04:14:19,995
legislative

7623
04:14:19,995 --> 04:14:20,732
legislative and legal services

7624
04:14:20,732 --> 04:14:20,968
department

7625
04:14:20,968 --> 04:14:20,968
department.

7626
04:14:20,968 --> 04:14:23,263
the draft budget before council

7627
04:14:23,263 --> 04:14:23,606
is

7628
04:14:23,606 --> 04:14:25,395
is very much a status quo budget

7629
04:14:25,395 --> 04:14:25,646
from

7630
04:14:25,646 --> 04:14:26,825
from my department's perspective

7631
04:14:26,825 --> 04:14:26,825
  perspective.

7632
04:14:26,825 --> 04:14:26,825
  perspective.

7633
04:14:26,825 --> 04:14:28,822
we are not seeking any   additional

7634
04:14:28,822 --> 04:14:29,087
additional amounts.

7635
04:14:29,087 --> 04:14:30,790
in fact, there's a 15.5%   decrease

7636
04:14:30,790 --> 04:14:32,802
decrease in the court manage --

7637
04:14:32,802 --> 04:14:33,038
or

7638
04:14:33,038 --> 04:14:36,016
or budget which is a $430,000

7639
04:14:36,016 --> 04:14:36,016
decrease

7640
04:14:36,016 --> 04:14:36,016
decrease.

7641
04:14:36,016 --> 04:14:37,941
that reduction is due to   staffing

7642
04:14:37,941 --> 04:14:39,940
staffing, realignment and a new

7643
04:14:39,940 --> 04:14:40,173
admission

7644
04:14:40,173 --> 04:14:40,906
admission ration cost recovery

7645
04:14:40,906 --> 04:14:40,906
.

7646
04:14:40,906 --> 04:14:43,696
that's being said, there are two

7647
04:14:43,696 --> 04:14:43,920
business

7648
04:14:43,920 --> 04:14:44,925
business cases at appendix three

7649
04:14:44,925 --> 04:14:45,142
that

7650
04:14:45,142 --> 04:14:46,916
that I would be happy to take

7651
04:14:46,916 --> 04:14:46,916
any

7652
04:14:46,916 --> 04:14:47,407
any questions on.

7653
04:14:47,407 --> 04:14:51,416
in 2026, now that's a number of

7654
04:14:51,416 --> 04:14:51,666
departmental

7655
04:14:51,666 --> 04:14:52,423
departmental changes have been

7656
04:14:52,423 --> 04:14:52,672
implemented

7657
04:14:52,672 --> 04:14:54,007
implemented in the past two   years

7658
04:14:54,007 --> 04:14:54,968
years, corporate management will

7659
04:14:54,968 --> 04:14:55,438
continue

7660
04:14:55,438 --> 04:14:58,038
continue to focus on being a   dependable

7661
04:14:58,038 --> 04:14:58,784
dependable resource other county

7662
04:14:58,784 --> 04:14:59,036
departments

7663
04:14:59,036 --> 04:15:00,035
departments and across the   region

7664
04:15:00,035 --> 04:15:00,035
region.

7665
04:15:00,035 --> 04:15:06,089
we provide support to other   departments

7666
04:15:06,089 --> 04:15:07,453
departments in county but we are

7667
04:15:07,453 --> 04:15:07,718
also

7668
04:15:07,718 --> 04:15:09,474
also hereto and I think we do

7669
04:15:09,474 --> 04:15:09,474
supports

7670
04:15:09,474 --> 04:15:09,727
supports council.

7671
04:15:09,727 --> 04:15:11,998
for the -- pass number of years

7672
04:15:11,998 --> 04:15:12,247
,   the

7673
04:15:12,247 --> 04:15:13,535
the corporate management group

7674
04:15:13,535 --> 04:15:13,787
has

7675
04:15:13,787 --> 04:15:16,009
has become a resource that local

7676
04:15:16,009 --> 04:15:16,244
municipalities

7677
04:15:16,244 --> 04:15:17,987
municipalities rely on for   sharing

7678
04:15:17,987 --> 04:15:20,044
sharing ideas, best practices

7679
04:15:20,044 --> 04:15:20,044
and

7680
04:15:20,044 --> 04:15:20,813
and promoting everyone working

7681
04:15:20,813 --> 04:15:21,048
together

7682
04:15:21,048 --> 04:15:21,774
together as a region.

7683
04:15:21,774 --> 04:15:24,627
this is the case of the county

7684
04:15:24,627 --> 04:15:24,861
cao

7685
04:15:24,861 --> 04:15:26,227
cao taking lead in regular   meetings

7686
04:15:26,227 --> 04:15:26,227
meetings.

7687
04:15:26,227 --> 04:15:28,113
the county clerk taking a   regular

7688
04:15:28,113 --> 04:15:29,101
regular meeting with local   clerks

7689
04:15:29,101 --> 04:15:29,101
clerks.

7690
04:15:29,101 --> 04:15:31,406
and the county's lister and   deputy

7691
04:15:31,406 --> 04:15:32,143
deputy solicitor recently taken

7692
04:15:32,143 --> 04:15:32,610
the

7693
04:15:32,610 --> 04:15:33,860
the lead in ensuring the legal

7694
04:15:33,860 --> 04:15:34,109
departments

7695
04:15:34,109 --> 04:15:34,883
departments and the county meet

7696
04:15:34,883 --> 04:15:35,113
regularly

7697
04:15:35,113 --> 04:15:35,113
regularly.

7698
04:15:35,113 --> 04:15:39,061
this work was already underway

7699
04:15:39,061 --> 04:15:39,311
prior

7700
04:15:39,311 --> 04:15:40,857
prior to this plan being adopted

7701
04:15:40,857 --> 04:15:40,857
  adopted.

7702
04:15:40,857 --> 04:15:40,857
  adopted.

7703
04:15:40,857 --> 04:15:43,271
with that plan in place, we   recognize

7704
04:15:43,271 --> 04:15:44,242
recognize the importance of   focusing

7705
04:15:44,242 --> 04:15:45,597
focusing on this work to ensure

7706
04:15:45,597 --> 04:15:45,845
that

7707
04:15:45,845 --> 04:15:47,841
that we are advancing the   strategic

7708
04:15:47,841 --> 04:15:49,258
strategic goals of working as

7709
04:15:49,258 --> 04:15:49,258
team

7710
04:15:49,258 --> 04:15:50,632
team essex county, and growing

7711
04:15:50,632 --> 04:15:50,864
as

7712
04:15:50,864 --> 04:15:52,103
as leaders in public service   excellence

7713
04:15:52,103 --> 04:15:52,103
excellence.

7714
04:15:52,103 --> 04:15:56,369
one of the other strategic   direction

7715
04:15:56,369 --> 04:15:57,617
direction set by council is the

7716
04:15:57,617 --> 04:15:57,865
county

7717
04:15:57,865 --> 04:15:59,769
county should focus on being an

7718
04:15:59,769 --> 04:16:00,129
employer

7719
04:16:00,129 --> 04:16:01,063
employer with impacts.

7720
04:16:01,063 --> 04:16:01,973
the communication division will

7721
04:16:01,973 --> 04:16:02,551
take

7722
04:16:02,551 --> 04:16:04,242
take the lead on employing   excellence

7723
04:16:04,242 --> 04:16:05,417
excellence awards and ensuring

7724
04:16:05,417 --> 04:16:05,985
long

7725
04:16:05,985 --> 04:16:08,373
long service is acknowledged,

7726
04:16:08,373 --> 04:16:08,373
refining

7727
04:16:08,373 --> 04:16:09,220
refining existing engagement   opportunities

7728
04:16:09,220 --> 04:16:11,040
opportunities and reviewing the

7729
04:16:11,040 --> 04:16:11,277
recently

7730
04:16:11,277 --> 04:16:12,039
recently completed employee   engagement

7731
04:16:12,039 --> 04:16:12,289
engagement survey.

7732
04:16:12,289 --> 04:16:16,789
further, the strategic plan also

7733
04:16:16,789 --> 04:16:17,132
calls

7734
04:16:17,132 --> 04:16:18,401
calls for advancing truth and

7735
04:16:18,401 --> 04:16:18,401
reconciliation

7736
04:16:18,401 --> 04:16:19,125
reconciliation at the county.

7737
04:16:19,125 --> 04:16:20,218
relations with indigenous   communities

7738
04:16:20,218 --> 04:16:21,967
communities built in our area.

7739
04:16:21,967 --> 04:16:21,967


7740
04:16:21,967 --> 04:16:25,381
it will advance key strategic

7741
04:16:25,381 --> 04:16:25,381
goal

7742
04:16:25,381 --> 04:16:27,361
goal, the county taking steps

7743
04:16:27,361 --> 04:16:27,611
to   engage

7744
04:16:27,611 --> 04:16:28,858
engage a consultant to assist

7745
04:16:28,858 --> 04:16:29,108
in   developing

7746
04:16:29,108 --> 04:16:30,341
developing a plan to ensure we

7747
04:16:30,341 --> 04:16:30,591
are

7748
04:16:30,591 --> 04:16:31,800
are meeting our obligations to

7749
04:16:31,800 --> 04:16:32,052
our

7750
04:16:32,052 --> 04:16:32,535
our indigenous peoples.

7751
04:16:32,535 --> 04:16:33,580
it's anticipated the plan will

7752
04:16:33,580 --> 04:16:33,830
be

7753
04:16:33,830 --> 04:16:35,099
be ready for council's review

7754
04:16:35,099 --> 04:16:35,351
in   2026.

7755
04:16:35,351 --> 04:16:35,351
in   2026.

7756
04:16:35,351 --> 04:16:41,366
in 2021, the county had a   consultant

7757
04:16:41,366 --> 04:16:42,944
consultant review the county's

7758
04:16:42,944 --> 04:16:43,193
records

7759
04:16:43,193 --> 04:16:43,946
records and information   management

7760
04:16:43,946 --> 04:16:44,213
management program.

7761
04:16:44,213 --> 04:16:48,449
as that plan, a review is   outdated

7762
04:16:48,449 --> 04:16:49,203
outdated and budgetary pressures

7763
04:16:49,203 --> 04:16:49,762
prevented

7764
04:16:49,762 --> 04:16:50,738
prevented the county from   implementing

7765
04:16:50,738 --> 04:16:51,708
implementing some of those key

7766
04:16:51,708 --> 04:16:51,957
recommendations

7767
04:16:51,957 --> 04:16:51,957
recommendations.

7768
04:16:51,957 --> 04:16:55,205
the environment for how records

7769
04:16:55,205 --> 04:16:56,018
are

7770
04:16:56,018 --> 04:16:57,257
are stored electronically has

7771
04:16:57,257 --> 04:16:57,257
changed

7772
04:16:57,257 --> 04:16:58,011
changed significantly since then

7773
04:16:58,011 --> 04:16:58,011
  then.

7774
04:16:58,011 --> 04:16:58,011
  then.

7775
04:16:58,011 --> 04:17:00,050
a review of the plan will be   completed

7776
04:17:00,050 --> 04:17:00,755
completed in 2026.

7777
04:17:00,755 --> 04:17:03,704
the goal is to ensure our   records

7778
04:17:03,704 --> 04:17:04,696
records management plan is   appropriate

7779
04:17:04,696 --> 04:17:06,361
appropriate and builds on the

7780
04:17:06,361 --> 04:17:06,361
county

7781
04:17:06,361 --> 04:17:07,888
county's commitment to effective

7782
04:17:07,888 --> 04:17:08,453
records

7783
04:17:08,453 --> 04:17:09,627
records management and insurers

7784
04:17:09,627 --> 04:17:09,861
organize

7785
04:17:09,861 --> 04:17:10,612
organize and secure management

7786
04:17:10,612 --> 04:17:10,865
of

7787
04:17:10,865 --> 04:17:11,338
of critical information.

7788
04:17:11,338 --> 04:17:18,335
with sets, I will throw it over

7789
04:17:18,335 --> 04:17:18,587
to

7790
04:17:18,587 --> 04:17:18,838
to melissa.

7791
04:17:18,838 --> 04:17:22,100
>> thank you.

7792
04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:23,422
financial services has another

7793
04:17:23,422 --> 04:17:23,690
busy

7794
04:17:23,690 --> 04:17:25,049
busy year ahead, as we continue

7795
04:17:25,049 --> 04:17:25,298
modernizing

7796
04:17:25,298 --> 04:17:26,300
modernizing how we do business

7797
04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:26,300
.

7798
04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:28,158
a lot of the big foundational

7799
04:17:28,158 --> 04:17:28,158
work

7800
04:17:28,158 --> 04:17:29,992
work started in 2025 and in 2026

7801
04:17:29,992 --> 04:17:30,212
we

7802
04:17:30,212 --> 04:17:32,137
we will be putting it into   motion

7803
04:17:32,137 --> 04:17:33,566
motion, especially with the   rollout

7804
04:17:33,566 --> 04:17:34,794
rollout of the new budget   software

7805
04:17:34,794 --> 04:17:36,060
software to utilize for the 2027

7806
04:17:36,060 --> 04:17:36,281
county

7807
04:17:36,281 --> 04:17:37,712
county budget and the continuing

7808
04:17:37,712 --> 04:17:37,963
modules

7809
04:17:37,963 --> 04:17:39,224
modules over a new human   resources

7810
04:17:39,224 --> 04:17:40,435
resources information system a

7811
04:17:40,435 --> 04:17:40,779
form

7812
04:17:40,779 --> 04:17:40,779
form.

7813
04:17:40,779 --> 04:17:42,920
of these tools make budgeting

7814
04:17:42,920 --> 04:17:42,920
and

7815
04:17:42,920 --> 04:17:43,676
and financial planning easier,

7816
04:17:43,676 --> 04:17:44,033
clear

7817
04:17:44,033 --> 04:17:45,820
clear and more efficient for   everyone

7818
04:17:45,820 --> 04:17:46,548
everyone across the organization

7819
04:17:46,548 --> 04:17:46,548
  organization.

7820
04:17:46,548 --> 04:17:46,548
  organization.

7821
04:17:46,548 --> 04:17:48,469
it will also keep focusing on

7822
04:17:48,469 --> 04:17:48,469
the

7823
04:17:48,469 --> 04:17:49,431
the things that strengthen the

7824
04:17:49,431 --> 04:17:49,775
county

7825
04:17:49,775 --> 04:17:50,858
county's long-term financial   position

7826
04:17:50,858 --> 04:17:52,162
position, helping departments

7827
04:17:52,162 --> 04:17:52,162
with

7828
04:17:52,162 --> 04:17:53,139
with deeper financial analysis

7829
04:17:53,139 --> 04:17:54,061
,   more

7830
04:17:54,061 --> 04:17:54,769
more strategic procurement   report

7831
04:17:54,769 --> 04:17:55,964
report -- support and making   sure

7832
04:17:55,964 --> 04:17:57,645
sure we get good value for the

7833
04:17:57,645 --> 04:17:58,443
contracts

7834
04:17:58,443 --> 04:17:59,165
contracts we enter into.

7835
04:17:59,165 --> 04:18:00,214
all the behind-the-scenes work

7836
04:18:00,214 --> 04:18:01,002
that

7837
04:18:01,002 --> 04:18:02,327
that protects the levee and   supports

7838
04:18:02,327 --> 04:18:02,814
supports good decision-making.

7839
04:18:02,814 --> 04:18:05,462
one of the bigger items in this

7840
04:18:05,462 --> 04:18:05,699
years

7841
04:18:05,699 --> 04:18:07,365
years finance budget is the   1 million-dollar

7842
04:18:07,365 --> 04:18:07,825
1 million-dollar contribution

7843
04:18:07,825 --> 04:18:07,825
toward

7844
04:18:07,825 --> 04:18:09,620
toward the ems hub and capital

7845
04:18:09,620 --> 04:18:09,855
plan

7846
04:18:09,855 --> 04:18:09,855
plan.

7847
04:18:09,855 --> 04:18:12,410
this is a levy funded item   exactly

7848
04:18:12,410 --> 04:18:13,758
exactly in line with the funding

7849
04:18:13,758 --> 04:18:14,007
model

7850
04:18:14,007 --> 04:18:14,992
model council received in august

7851
04:18:14,992 --> 04:18:14,992
  august.

7852
04:18:14,992 --> 04:18:14,992
  august.

7853
04:18:14,992 --> 04:18:17,143
it keeps us on track so when we

7854
04:18:17,143 --> 04:18:17,395
move

7855
04:18:17,395 --> 04:18:19,074
move forward with these land   purchases

7856
04:18:19,074 --> 04:18:20,002
purchases, design and   construction

7857
04:18:20,002 --> 04:18:20,787
construction, the reserve   capacity

7858
04:18:20,787 --> 04:18:22,787
capacity will be in place or at

7859
04:18:22,787 --> 04:18:23,037
the

7860
04:18:23,037 --> 04:18:25,013
the very least we have a plan

7861
04:18:25,013 --> 04:18:25,248
to   replenish

7862
04:18:25,248 --> 04:18:26,693
replenish what is being depleted

7863
04:18:26,693 --> 04:18:26,693
  depleted.

7864
04:18:26,693 --> 04:18:26,693
  depleted.

7865
04:18:26,693 --> 04:18:28,581
a quick note on internal   recoveries

7866
04:18:28,581 --> 04:18:30,223
recoveries, you will see   movement

7867
04:18:30,223 --> 04:18:30,961
movement between general   government

7868
04:18:30,961 --> 04:18:31,806
government departments this year

7869
04:18:31,806 --> 04:18:31,806
  year.

7870
04:18:31,806 --> 04:18:31,806
  year.

7871
04:18:31,806 --> 04:18:32,603
that's mainly reallocating cost

7872
04:18:32,603 --> 04:18:33,944
where

7873
04:18:33,944 --> 04:18:35,234
where they more accurately live

7874
04:18:35,234 --> 04:18:35,234
.

7875
04:18:35,234 --> 04:18:37,597
it looks busy but doesn't change

7876
04:18:37,597 --> 04:18:37,830
the

7877
04:18:37,830 --> 04:18:38,380
the overall amounts.

7878
04:18:38,380 --> 04:18:40,968
for example, there was -- there

7879
04:18:40,968 --> 04:18:41,217
were

7880
04:18:41,217 --> 04:18:42,081
were legal recoveries previously

7881
04:18:42,081 --> 04:18:42,757
housed

7882
04:18:42,757 --> 04:18:44,000
housed in finance however they

7883
04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:44,361
were

7884
04:18:44,361 --> 04:18:45,804
were moved to the corporate   management

7885
04:18:45,804 --> 04:18:46,811
management area to reflect   support

7886
04:18:46,811 --> 04:18:48,047
support they provide to other

7887
04:18:48,047 --> 04:18:48,047
departments

7888
04:18:48,047 --> 04:18:48,047
departments.

7889
04:18:48,047 --> 04:18:51,543
finally, one small comment,   earlier

7890
04:18:51,543 --> 04:18:52,791
earlier this year presented a

7891
04:18:52,791 --> 04:18:52,791
report

7892
04:18:52,791 --> 04:18:54,033
report on the county's credit

7893
04:18:54,033 --> 04:18:54,033
rating

7894
04:18:54,033 --> 04:18:55,366
rating as there was -- questions

7895
04:18:55,366 --> 04:18:55,727
about

7896
04:18:55,727 --> 04:18:57,922
about the cost benefit of this

7897
04:18:57,922 --> 04:18:58,174
exercise

7898
04:18:58,174 --> 04:18:58,174
exercise.

7899
04:18:58,174 --> 04:18:59,600
there are no dollars included

7900
04:18:59,600 --> 04:18:59,853
in   the

7901
04:18:59,853 --> 04:19:01,106
the draft budget for the credit

7902
04:19:01,106 --> 04:19:01,355
rating

7903
04:19:01,355 --> 04:19:02,546
rating report at this time.

7904
04:19:02,546 --> 04:19:03,863
if council wants to added back

7905
04:19:03,863 --> 04:19:04,100
in

7906
04:19:04,100 --> 04:19:05,308
in, that certainly can be done

7907
04:19:05,308 --> 04:19:05,545
at

7908
04:19:05,545 --> 04:19:07,353
at the end of the meeting today

7909
04:19:07,353 --> 04:19:07,353
.

7910
04:19:07,353 --> 04:19:09,429
otherwise, there is the 2025   report

7911
04:19:09,429 --> 04:19:11,358
report which you saw on the   consent

7912
04:19:11,358 --> 04:19:11,613
consent agenda.

7913
04:19:11,613 --> 04:19:13,994
the county did receive a aaa   credit

7914
04:19:13,994 --> 04:19:15,581
credit rating so that will hold

7915
04:19:15,581 --> 04:19:15,832
until

7916
04:19:15,832 --> 04:19:17,087
until the annual process is due

7917
04:19:17,087 --> 04:19:17,324
for

7918
04:19:17,324 --> 04:19:17,593
for renewal.

7919
04:19:17,593 --> 04:19:20,122
at that time, I would advise smp

7920
04:19:20,122 --> 04:19:20,375
we

7921
04:19:20,375 --> 04:19:22,071
we will not continue with the

7922
04:19:22,071 --> 04:19:22,071
credit

7923
04:19:22,071 --> 04:19:22,669
credit rating process.

7924
04:19:22,669 --> 04:19:26,225
with that, I turn it over to   daryl

7925
04:19:26,225 --> 04:19:27,230
daryl, our director of   information

7926
04:19:27,230 --> 04:19:27,479
information technology.

7927
04:19:27,479 --> 04:19:27,818
>> thank you.

7928
04:19:27,818 --> 04:19:31,595
thank you for giving me the   opportunity

7929
04:19:31,595 --> 04:19:33,590
opportunity to speak with you

7930
04:19:33,590 --> 04:19:33,590
today

7931
04:19:33,590 --> 04:19:35,559
today about the proposed 2026

7932
04:19:35,559 --> 04:19:35,559
information

7933
04:19:35,559 --> 04:19:36,156
information technology services

7934
04:19:36,156 --> 04:19:36,405
budget

7935
04:19:36,405 --> 04:19:36,405
budget.

7936
04:19:36,405 --> 04:19:38,661
I would like to start by   acknowledging

7937
04:19:38,661 --> 04:19:39,989
acknowledging the hard work of

7938
04:19:39,989 --> 04:19:40,205
the

7939
04:19:40,205 --> 04:19:41,455
the small but mighty I.t. Team

7940
04:19:41,455 --> 04:19:41,701
that

7941
04:19:41,701 --> 04:19:44,421
that made 2025 a successful year

7942
04:19:44,421 --> 04:19:44,675
for

7943
04:19:44,675 --> 04:19:45,846
for our department, particularly

7944
04:19:45,846 --> 04:19:46,080
in

7945
04:19:46,080 --> 04:19:47,103
in advancing several key   initiatives

7946
04:19:47,103 --> 04:19:47,103
initiatives.

7947
04:19:47,103 --> 04:19:51,163
in july 2025, we took another

7948
04:19:51,163 --> 04:19:51,163
step

7949
04:19:51,163 --> 04:19:52,951
step toward centralizing our   service

7950
04:19:52,951 --> 04:19:54,082
service delivery model by   onboarding

7951
04:19:54,082 --> 04:19:54,817
onboarding our business analyst

7952
04:19:54,817 --> 04:19:54,817
.

7953
04:19:54,817 --> 04:19:57,423
since then, we've made   significant

7954
04:19:57,423 --> 04:19:58,831
significant progress in   understanding

7955
04:19:58,831 --> 04:19:59,801
understanding our application

7956
04:19:59,801 --> 04:19:59,801
landscape

7957
04:19:59,801 --> 04:20:00,551
landscape, our data structures

7958
04:20:00,551 --> 04:20:00,815
and

7959
04:20:00,815 --> 04:20:03,138
and how our employees use our

7960
04:20:03,138 --> 04:20:03,138
systems

7961
04:20:03,138 --> 04:20:03,138
systems.

7962
04:20:03,138 --> 04:20:04,190
we've already seen immediate   results

7963
04:20:04,190 --> 04:20:08,069
results for bringing in the   business

7964
04:20:08,069 --> 04:20:09,486
business world into the   organization

7965
04:20:09,486 --> 04:20:10,753
organization, especially project

7966
04:20:10,753 --> 04:20:11,019
engagement

7967
04:20:11,019 --> 04:20:12,111
engagement and helping move   several

7968
04:20:12,111 --> 04:20:12,853
several initiatives across the

7969
04:20:12,853 --> 04:20:13,105
finish

7970
04:20:13,105 --> 04:20:13,355
finish line.

7971
04:20:13,355 --> 04:20:17,447
in early 2025, we also   implemented

7972
04:20:17,447 --> 04:20:19,602
implemented and launched our   managed

7973
04:20:19,602 --> 04:20:20,434
managed detection and response

7974
04:20:20,434 --> 04:20:20,682
system

7975
04:20:20,682 --> 04:20:21,683
system service through field   effects

7976
04:20:21,683 --> 04:20:22,685
effects in partnership with tell

7977
04:20:22,685 --> 04:20:22,906
us

7978
04:20:22,906 --> 04:20:24,203
us work this investment has   already

7979
04:20:24,203 --> 04:20:28,358
already paid dividends as our

7980
04:20:28,358 --> 04:20:28,358
modern

7981
04:20:28,358 --> 04:20:30,439
modern provider alerted us to

7982
04:20:30,439 --> 04:20:30,439
attempted

7983
04:20:30,439 --> 04:20:31,642
attempted logins from russian

7984
04:20:31,642 --> 04:20:31,642
threat

7985
04:20:31,642 --> 04:20:33,561
threat actors trying to access

7986
04:20:33,561 --> 04:20:33,813
our

7987
04:20:33,813 --> 04:20:34,062
our environment.

7988
04:20:34,062 --> 04:20:36,005
this validated the importance

7989
04:20:36,005 --> 04:20:36,005
and

7990
04:20:36,005 --> 04:20:37,217
and urgency of enhancing our   cybersecurity

7991
04:20:37,217 --> 04:20:37,469
cybersecurity initiatives.

7992
04:20:37,469 --> 04:20:42,181
in the third quarter of 2025,

7993
04:20:42,181 --> 04:20:42,428
we   upgraded

7994
04:20:42,428 --> 04:20:43,431
upgraded our firewall, which was

7995
04:20:43,431 --> 04:20:43,681
long

7996
04:20:43,681 --> 04:20:44,944
long overdue replacement.

7997
04:20:44,944 --> 04:20:49,072
this upgrade has allowed us to

7998
04:20:49,072 --> 04:20:49,526
implement

7999
04:20:49,526 --> 04:20:50,689
implement stronger security   controls

8000
04:20:50,689 --> 04:20:51,179
controls, including geo-fencing

8001
04:20:51,179 --> 04:20:51,756
and

8002
04:20:51,756 --> 04:20:53,641
and stricter access rules,   helping

8003
04:20:53,641 --> 04:20:54,887
helping us better protect the

8004
04:20:54,887 --> 04:20:54,887
county

8005
04:20:54,887 --> 04:20:55,265
county's environment.

8006
04:20:55,265 --> 04:20:58,095
we also made strategic staffing

8007
04:20:58,095 --> 04:20:58,329
improvements

8008
04:20:58,329 --> 04:20:58,831
improvements this year.

8009
04:20:58,831 --> 04:21:01,485
one of our help desk analyst   positions

8010
04:21:01,485 --> 04:21:02,223
positions was reclassified into

8011
04:21:02,223 --> 04:21:02,458
a

8012
04:21:02,458 --> 04:21:03,449
a help desk lead role.

8013
04:21:03,449 --> 04:21:05,410
this change has strengthened our

8014
04:21:05,410 --> 04:21:06,948
ability

8015
04:21:06,948 --> 04:21:08,081
ability to coordinate daily   operations

8016
04:21:08,081 --> 04:21:09,053
operations, assigned tasks   effectively

8017
04:21:09,053 --> 04:21:11,108
effectively, and ensure urgent

8018
04:21:11,108 --> 04:21:11,581
issues

8019
04:21:11,581 --> 04:21:12,356
issues are prioritized   appropriately

8020
04:21:12,356 --> 04:21:12,356
appropriately.

8021
04:21:12,356 --> 04:21:15,106
finally, this quarter has been

8022
04:21:15,106 --> 04:21:15,340
especially

8023
04:21:15,340 --> 04:21:16,964
especially exciting as we   successfully

8024
04:21:16,964 --> 04:21:17,716
successfully advanced our   microsoft

8025
04:21:17,716 --> 04:21:19,493
microsoft 365 project.

8026
04:21:19,493 --> 04:21:22,097
over the past few weeks, we have

8027
04:21:22,097 --> 04:21:22,336
onboarding

8028
04:21:22,336 --> 04:21:23,677
onboarding staff to exchange   online

8029
04:21:23,677 --> 04:21:24,999
online, implemented teams and

8030
04:21:24,999 --> 04:21:24,999
enabled

8031
04:21:24,999 --> 04:21:25,495
enabled cloud-based   collaboration

8032
04:21:25,495 --> 04:21:25,743
collaboration tools.

8033
04:21:25,743 --> 04:21:29,976
we are now moving into the   design

8034
04:21:29,976 --> 04:21:31,477
design phase of our sharepoint

8035
04:21:31,477 --> 04:21:31,715
environment

8036
04:21:31,715 --> 04:21:32,500
environment with targeted   implementation

8037
04:21:32,500 --> 04:21:33,567
implementation in the first and

8038
04:21:33,567 --> 04:21:33,817
second

8039
04:21:33,817 --> 04:21:35,611
second quarters of 2026.

8040
04:21:35,611 --> 04:21:37,528
thank you to council for your

8041
04:21:37,528 --> 04:21:37,528
support

8042
04:21:37,528 --> 04:21:38,498
support of these initiatives in

8043
04:21:38,498 --> 04:21:38,748
2025.

8044
04:21:38,748 --> 04:21:38,748
2025.

8045
04:21:38,748 --> 04:21:43,290
in 2026, we continue advancing

8046
04:21:43,290 --> 04:21:43,558
the

8047
04:21:43,558 --> 04:21:44,656
the work recommended through the

8048
04:21:44,656 --> 04:21:46,207
2023

8049
04:21:46,207 --> 04:21:47,162
2023 service delivery review.

8050
04:21:47,162 --> 04:21:49,359
in the proposed budget, you will

8051
04:21:49,359 --> 04:21:49,612
see

8052
04:21:49,612 --> 04:21:52,067
see line items related to   improving

8053
04:21:52,067 --> 04:21:52,676
improving network availability

8054
04:21:52,676 --> 04:21:53,039
,   dependability

8055
04:21:53,039 --> 04:21:54,682
dependability and software and

8056
04:21:54,682 --> 04:21:54,916
service

8057
04:21:54,916 --> 04:21:55,421
service monitoring tools.

8058
04:21:55,421 --> 04:21:58,521
these tools will allow us to   better

8059
04:21:58,521 --> 04:22:00,030
better monitor the performance

8060
04:22:00,030 --> 04:22:00,594
of

8061
04:22:00,594 --> 04:22:01,316
of our environment, proactively

8062
04:22:01,316 --> 04:22:01,999
detect

8063
04:22:01,999 --> 04:22:02,999
detect issues and receive alerts

8064
04:22:02,999 --> 04:22:03,250
before

8065
04:22:03,250 --> 04:22:03,767
before outages occur.

8066
04:22:03,767 --> 04:22:07,610
if systems or services go down

8067
04:22:07,610 --> 04:22:07,972
,   our

8068
04:22:07,972 --> 04:22:09,177
our enhanced visibility will   ensure

8069
04:22:09,177 --> 04:22:11,991
ensure we are aware of the   issues

8070
04:22:11,991 --> 04:22:13,001
issues immediately and are able

8071
04:22:13,001 --> 04:22:13,267
to

8072
04:22:13,267 --> 04:22:14,987
to respond before users are able

8073
04:22:14,987 --> 04:22:15,237
to

8074
04:22:15,237 --> 04:22:16,242
to report on these issues.

8075
04:22:16,242 --> 04:22:19,903
in addition, we will continue

8076
04:22:19,903 --> 04:22:19,903
exploring

8077
04:22:19,903 --> 04:22:21,224
exploring efficiency tools   recommended

8078
04:22:21,224 --> 04:22:22,543
recommended through the service

8079
04:22:22,543 --> 04:22:22,781
delivery

8080
04:22:22,781 --> 04:22:23,631
delivery review, particularly

8081
04:22:23,631 --> 04:22:23,631
those

8082
04:22:23,631 --> 04:22:25,010
those that are now available to

8083
04:22:25,010 --> 04:22:25,243
us

8084
04:22:25,243 --> 04:22:26,199
us through our recent microsoft

8085
04:22:26,199 --> 04:22:26,479
365

8086
04:22:26,479 --> 04:22:26,699
365 migration.

8087
04:22:26,699 --> 04:22:29,758
as part of the county's mission

8088
04:22:29,758 --> 04:22:30,553
,   the

8089
04:22:30,553 --> 04:22:31,521
the I.t. Department will   strengthen

8090
04:22:31,521 --> 04:22:32,271
strengthen relationships with

8091
04:22:32,271 --> 04:22:32,271
other

8092
04:22:32,271 --> 04:22:36,640
other I.t. Departments in the

8093
04:22:36,640 --> 04:22:36,640
region

8094
04:22:36,640 --> 04:22:37,876
region as well as other locals

8095
04:22:37,876 --> 04:22:38,113
thought

8096
04:22:38,113 --> 04:22:39,080
thought leaders, building this

8097
04:22:39,080 --> 04:22:39,316
community

8098
04:22:39,316 --> 04:22:40,821
community of practice will help

8099
04:22:40,821 --> 04:22:41,178
us

8100
04:22:41,178 --> 04:22:41,178
us.

8101
04:22:41,178 --> 04:22:43,333
knowledge, align emerging best

8102
04:22:43,333 --> 04:22:43,784
practices

8103
04:22:43,784 --> 04:22:45,055
practices and implement   solutions

8104
04:22:45,055 --> 04:22:46,677
solutions that benefit the   broader

8105
04:22:46,677 --> 04:22:47,037
broader region.

8106
04:22:47,037 --> 04:22:49,311
finally, we will continue our

8107
04:22:49,311 --> 04:22:49,311
cloud

8108
04:22:49,311 --> 04:22:49,808
cloud migration journey.

8109
04:22:49,808 --> 04:22:51,604
now that the county is operating

8110
04:22:51,604 --> 04:22:51,855
on

8111
04:22:51,855 --> 04:22:54,278
on microsoft 365, we will   further

8112
04:22:54,278 --> 04:22:55,013
further embrace cloud services

8113
04:22:55,013 --> 04:22:55,263
to

8114
04:22:55,263 --> 04:22:57,650
to support and improve service

8115
04:22:57,650 --> 04:22:57,902
delivery

8116
04:22:57,902 --> 04:22:57,902
delivery.

8117
04:22:57,902 --> 04:23:00,435
in this budget, you will see   references

8118
04:23:00,435 --> 04:23:02,113
references to our as were   environment

8119
04:23:02,113 --> 04:23:03,447
environment, now rebranded by

8120
04:23:03,447 --> 04:23:03,447
microsoft

8121
04:23:03,447 --> 04:23:04,200
microsoft as microsoft entre.

8122
04:23:04,200 --> 04:23:08,073
this transition is important as

8123
04:23:08,073 --> 04:23:08,434
it

8124
04:23:08,434 --> 04:23:09,861
it will enable greater   administrative

8125
04:23:09,861 --> 04:23:11,003
administrative control, stronger

8126
04:23:11,003 --> 04:23:11,237
governance

8127
04:23:11,237 --> 04:23:11,994
governance and improve   protection

8128
04:23:11,994 --> 04:23:12,750
protection from threat actors.

8129
04:23:12,750 --> 04:23:12,750


8130
04:23:12,750 --> 04:23:18,114
the current slide identifies   business

8131
04:23:18,114 --> 04:23:19,113
business cases I.t. Submitted

8132
04:23:19,113 --> 04:23:19,113
for

8133
04:23:19,113 --> 04:23:19,361
for consideration.

8134
04:23:19,361 --> 04:23:20,657
if there are any questions, I'm

8135
04:23:20,657 --> 04:23:20,907
happy

8136
04:23:20,907 --> 04:23:22,411
happy to answer them at the end

8137
04:23:22,411 --> 04:23:22,663
of

8138
04:23:22,663 --> 04:23:23,136
of these presentations.

8139
04:23:23,136 --> 04:23:26,115
but we will continue to   strengthen

8140
04:23:26,115 --> 04:23:27,401
strengthen our cybersecurity   posture

8141
04:23:27,401 --> 04:23:27,401
posture.

8142
04:23:27,401 --> 04:23:28,200
this includes ongoing   initiatives

8143
04:23:28,200 --> 04:23:31,142
initiatives such as our no   before

8144
04:23:31,142 --> 04:23:31,887
before security awareness   training

8145
04:23:31,887 --> 04:23:32,906
training program, which will   remain

8146
04:23:32,906 --> 04:23:36,223
remain a core component to our

8147
04:23:36,223 --> 04:23:37,009
defence

8148
04:23:37,009 --> 04:23:37,259
defence strategy.

8149
04:23:37,259 --> 04:23:39,327
we will also be upgrading our

8150
04:23:39,327 --> 04:23:39,327
mobile

8151
04:23:39,327 --> 04:23:39,849
mobile device management   platform

8152
04:23:39,849 --> 04:23:39,849
platform.

8153
04:23:39,849 --> 04:23:44,984
this upgrade will improve our

8154
04:23:44,984 --> 04:23:44,984
management

8155
04:23:44,984 --> 04:23:45,727
management capabilities while

8156
04:23:45,727 --> 04:23:45,727
also

8157
04:23:45,727 --> 04:23:46,727
also providing cost savings for

8158
04:23:46,727 --> 04:23:46,965
the

8159
04:23:46,965 --> 04:23:47,215
the organization.

8160
04:23:47,215 --> 04:23:50,066
we will be performing additional

8161
04:23:50,066 --> 04:23:50,412
network

8162
04:23:50,412 --> 04:23:52,025
network upgrades throughout the

8163
04:23:52,025 --> 04:23:52,288
year

8164
04:23:52,288 --> 04:23:53,029
year, enabling improved   monitoring

8165
04:23:53,029 --> 04:23:54,216
monitoring of our network   quality

8166
04:23:54,216 --> 04:23:54,940
quality access device management

8167
04:23:54,940 --> 04:23:54,940
  management.

8168
04:23:54,940 --> 04:23:54,940
  management.

8169
04:23:54,940 --> 04:23:59,559
in 2025, the county also created

8170
04:23:59,559 --> 04:23:59,921
an

8171
04:23:59,921 --> 04:24:01,838
an ai policy and is working on

8172
04:24:01,838 --> 04:24:02,087
an

8173
04:24:02,087 --> 04:24:02,595
an ai framework.

8174
04:24:02,595 --> 04:24:04,183
building on that momentum, one

8175
04:24:04,183 --> 04:24:04,404
of

8176
04:24:04,404 --> 04:24:06,505
of our top parties for 2026 is

8177
04:24:06,505 --> 04:24:06,725
run

8178
04:24:06,725 --> 04:24:09,368
run an ai productivity pilot in

8179
04:24:09,368 --> 04:24:09,605
the

8180
04:24:09,605 --> 04:24:09,870
the county.

8181
04:24:09,870 --> 04:24:11,878
now the work really operating

8182
04:24:11,878 --> 04:24:11,878
within

8183
04:24:11,878 --> 04:24:13,069
within the microsoft 365   environment

8184
04:24:13,069 --> 04:24:15,391
environment, we plan to work   with

8185
04:24:15,391 --> 04:24:16,680
with approximately 25 users who

8186
04:24:16,680 --> 04:24:17,152
will

8187
04:24:17,152 --> 04:24:18,395
will be identified early in the

8188
04:24:18,395 --> 04:24:18,647
new

8189
04:24:18,647 --> 04:24:20,392
new year to evaluate how the   paid

8190
04:24:20,392 --> 04:24:21,470
paid version of microsoft pilot

8191
04:24:21,470 --> 04:24:21,712
can

8192
04:24:21,712 --> 04:24:23,686
can help reduce time spent on

8193
04:24:23,686 --> 04:24:23,686
routine

8194
04:24:23,686 --> 04:24:25,816
routine task and improve our   overall

8195
04:24:25,816 --> 04:24:26,082
overall productivity.

8196
04:24:26,082 --> 04:24:28,292
we will also continue our full

8197
04:24:28,292 --> 04:24:28,529
transition

8198
04:24:28,529 --> 04:24:32,035
transition into the microsoft

8199
04:24:32,035 --> 04:24:32,035
365

8200
04:24:32,035 --> 04:24:32,770
365 ecosystem, by establishing

8201
04:24:32,770 --> 04:24:33,008
our

8202
04:24:33,008 --> 04:24:33,491
our sharepoint environment.

8203
04:24:33,491 --> 04:24:36,675
this will expand our ability to

8204
04:24:36,675 --> 04:24:37,241
support

8205
04:24:37,241 --> 04:24:38,325
support asynchronous and   synchronous

8206
04:24:38,325 --> 04:24:39,805
synchronous collaboration across

8207
04:24:39,805 --> 04:24:40,051
employees

8208
04:24:40,051 --> 04:24:41,222
employees, teams, departments

8209
04:24:41,222 --> 04:24:41,222
and

8210
04:24:41,222 --> 04:24:41,748
and partner organizations.

8211
04:24:41,748 --> 04:24:44,223
thank you very much.

8212
04:24:44,223 --> 04:24:45,538
I will handed over to danielle

8213
04:24:45,538 --> 04:24:45,772
lappage

8214
04:24:45,772 --> 04:24:45,772
lappage.

8215
04:24:45,772 --> 04:24:53,344
>> thank you, worden.

8216
04:24:53,344 --> 04:24:55,218
through you to county council,

8217
04:24:55,218 --> 04:24:55,793
to

8218
04:24:55,793 --> 04:24:57,590
to strengthen the service   delivery

8219
04:24:57,590 --> 04:24:59,279
delivery and meet increasing   operational

8220
04:24:59,279 --> 04:25:01,978
operational demands, the 2026

8221
04:25:01,978 --> 04:25:01,978
budget

8222
04:25:01,978 --> 04:25:04,100
budget includes two new hr   positions

8223
04:25:04,100 --> 04:25:05,320
positions, a shared human   resource

8224
04:25:05,320 --> 04:25:06,086
resource generalist to support

8225
04:25:06,086 --> 04:25:06,322
ems

8226
04:25:06,322 --> 04:25:09,990
ems and sun parlor homes and a

8227
04:25:09,990 --> 04:25:10,259
human

8228
04:25:10,259 --> 04:25:11,386
human resources assistant to   facilitate

8229
04:25:11,386 --> 04:25:13,596
facilitate the implementation

8230
04:25:13,596 --> 04:25:13,596
and

8231
04:25:13,596 --> 04:25:14,682
and administration of the   redesigned

8232
04:25:14,682 --> 04:25:16,211
redesigned attendant support   policy

8233
04:25:16,211 --> 04:25:16,211
policy.

8234
04:25:16,211 --> 04:25:19,047
together, these additions will

8235
04:25:19,047 --> 04:25:19,609
enhance

8236
04:25:19,609 --> 04:25:20,774
enhance recruitment, compliance

8237
04:25:20,774 --> 04:25:21,022
and

8238
04:25:21,022 --> 04:25:22,975
and employee support across the

8239
04:25:22,975 --> 04:25:23,195
corporation

8240
04:25:23,195 --> 04:25:24,172
corporation helping to optimize

8241
04:25:24,172 --> 04:25:24,639
the

8242
04:25:24,639 --> 04:25:26,236
the potential of every employee

8243
04:25:26,236 --> 04:25:26,472
and

8244
04:25:26,472 --> 04:25:27,210
and ensure sustainable service

8245
04:25:27,210 --> 04:25:27,476
delivery

8246
04:25:27,476 --> 04:25:27,476
delivery.

8247
04:25:27,476 --> 04:25:35,393
this slide outlines hr's   priorities

8248
04:25:35,393 --> 04:25:37,995
priorities for 2026 for   collective

8249
04:25:37,995 --> 04:25:39,931
collective bargaining in 2026,

8250
04:25:39,931 --> 04:25:40,400
hr

8251
04:25:40,400 --> 04:25:41,619
hr will engage in collective   bargaining

8252
04:25:41,619 --> 04:25:43,051
bargaining with 5 of 6 union   groups

8253
04:25:43,051 --> 04:25:43,051
groups.

8254
04:25:43,051 --> 04:25:45,816
this will be a key area of focus

8255
04:25:45,816 --> 04:25:45,816
  focus,

8256
04:25:45,816 --> 04:25:46,815
focus, particularly for the   first half

8257
04:25:46,815 --> 04:25:48,603
first half of the year.

8258
04:25:48,603 --> 04:25:51,244
our objective is to engage in

8259
04:25:51,244 --> 04:25:51,244
respectful

8260
04:25:51,244 --> 04:25:52,621
respectful, collaborative   negotiations

8261
04:25:52,621 --> 04:25:54,030
negotiations that recognize the

8262
04:25:54,030 --> 04:25:54,280
valuable

8263
04:25:54,280 --> 04:25:55,559
valuable contributions of the

8264
04:25:55,559 --> 04:25:55,559
workforce

8265
04:25:55,559 --> 04:25:56,323
workforce while ensuring fiscal

8266
04:25:56,323 --> 04:25:56,574
sustainability

8267
04:25:56,574 --> 04:25:56,574
sustainability.

8268
04:25:56,574 --> 04:25:58,782
building on the recruitment   enhancements

8269
04:25:58,782 --> 04:26:02,648
enhancements meet in 2025, hr

8270
04:26:02,648 --> 04:26:02,648
will

8271
04:26:02,648 --> 04:26:03,638
will continue to strengthen   strategies

8272
04:26:03,638 --> 04:26:04,626
strategies that attract and   retain

8273
04:26:04,626 --> 04:26:09,016
retain diverse, skilled and   motivated

8274
04:26:09,016 --> 04:26:09,576
motivated employees.

8275
04:26:09,576 --> 04:26:10,732
will refine onboarding processes

8276
04:26:10,732 --> 04:26:10,732
  processes,

8277
04:26:10,732 --> 04:26:12,797
processes, that has the   candidate

8278
04:26:12,797 --> 04:26:13,546
candidate experience and ensure

8279
04:26:13,546 --> 04:26:13,796
equity

8280
04:26:13,796 --> 04:26:14,780
equity and accessibility at   every

8281
04:26:14,780 --> 04:26:15,046
every stage.

8282
04:26:15,046 --> 04:26:16,722
in addition, we will continue

8283
04:26:16,722 --> 04:26:18,922
to   assess

8284
04:26:18,922 --> 04:26:20,067
assess compensation and benefit

8285
04:26:20,067 --> 04:26:20,316
offerings

8286
04:26:20,316 --> 04:26:21,042
offerings to maintain   competitiveness

8287
04:26:21,042 --> 04:26:22,046
competitiveness in the labor   market

8288
04:26:22,046 --> 04:26:22,046
market.

8289
04:26:22,046 --> 04:26:25,462
for employee development and   training

8290
04:26:25,462 --> 04:26:28,110
training in 2026, we will   continue

8291
04:26:28,110 --> 04:26:29,315
continue to expand leadership

8292
04:26:29,315 --> 04:26:29,315
and

8293
04:26:29,315 --> 04:26:30,057
and professional development   opportunities

8294
04:26:30,057 --> 04:26:33,354
opportunities, including the   quarterly

8295
04:26:33,354 --> 04:26:34,763
quarterly leadership meetings

8296
04:26:34,763 --> 04:26:34,999
to   strengthen

8297
04:26:34,999 --> 04:26:35,487
strengthen organizational   capacity

8298
04:26:35,487 --> 04:26:36,224
capacity and support long-term

8299
04:26:36,224 --> 04:26:36,473
success

8300
04:26:36,473 --> 04:26:36,473
success.

8301
04:26:36,473 --> 04:26:42,165
in 2026, the implementation of

8302
04:26:42,165 --> 04:26:42,385
the

8303
04:26:42,385 --> 04:26:43,122
the refreshed attendance support

8304
04:26:43,122 --> 04:26:43,808
policy

8305
04:26:43,808 --> 04:26:45,637
policy will be a major focus,

8306
04:26:45,637 --> 04:26:45,637
providing

8307
04:26:45,637 --> 04:26:47,398
providing a proactive and   supportive

8308
04:26:47,398 --> 04:26:48,573
supportive framework for   addressing

8309
04:26:48,573 --> 04:26:49,838
addressing attendance concerns

8310
04:26:49,838 --> 04:26:50,072
and

8311
04:26:50,072 --> 04:26:50,792
and encouraging open   communication

8312
04:26:50,792 --> 04:26:51,277
communication between employees

8313
04:26:51,277 --> 04:26:51,512
and

8314
04:26:51,512 --> 04:26:51,764
and leaders.

8315
04:26:51,764 --> 04:26:56,373
a positive and inclusive culture

8316
04:26:56,373 --> 04:26:56,623
is

8317
04:26:56,623 --> 04:26:58,091
is a foundational to employee

8318
04:26:58,091 --> 04:26:58,091
engagement

8319
04:26:58,091 --> 04:26:58,590
engagement and retention.

8320
04:26:58,590 --> 04:27:02,351
building on a culture --   building

8321
04:27:02,351 --> 04:27:03,341
building on the culture   conversations

8322
04:27:03,341 --> 04:27:04,328
conversations initiated in 2025,

8323
04:27:04,328 --> 04:27:04,578
hr

8324
04:27:04,578 --> 04:27:06,925
hr will lead the next phase of

8325
04:27:06,925 --> 04:27:07,146
this

8326
04:27:07,146 --> 04:27:09,692
this work in 2026, expanding   discussions

8327
04:27:09,692 --> 04:27:11,628
discussions countywide to   reinforce

8328
04:27:11,628 --> 04:27:13,451
reinforce shared values,   expectations

8329
04:27:13,451 --> 04:27:14,189
expectations and daily practices

8330
04:27:14,189 --> 04:27:14,438
that

8331
04:27:14,438 --> 04:27:15,390
that contribute to a respectful

8332
04:27:15,390 --> 04:27:15,643
and

8333
04:27:15,643 --> 04:27:16,145
and collaborative workplace.

8334
04:27:16,145 --> 04:27:20,584
ensuring policies remain current

8335
04:27:20,584 --> 04:27:20,584
  current,

8336
04:27:20,584 --> 04:27:22,326
current, compliant and   reflective

8337
04:27:22,326 --> 04:27:23,303
reflective of best practices   will

8338
04:27:23,303 --> 04:27:25,339
will continue to be a key   priority

8339
04:27:25,339 --> 04:27:25,339
priority.

8340
04:27:25,339 --> 04:27:26,609
hr will continue to take   systemic

8341
04:27:26,609 --> 04:27:29,223
systemic policy reviews and   updates

8342
04:27:29,223 --> 04:27:30,796
updates to align with the   evolving

8343
04:27:30,796 --> 04:27:31,527
evolving legislation and county

8344
04:27:31,527 --> 04:27:31,779
operations

8345
04:27:31,779 --> 04:27:31,779
operations.

8346
04:27:31,779 --> 04:27:35,487
following the successful   implementation

8347
04:27:35,487 --> 04:27:37,309
implementation of the new human

8348
04:27:37,309 --> 04:27:37,547
resource

8349
04:27:37,547 --> 04:27:38,283
resource information system in

8350
04:27:38,283 --> 04:27:39,624
2025

8351
04:27:39,624 --> 04:27:42,125
2025, the 2026 focus includes

8352
04:27:42,125 --> 04:27:42,125
deploying

8353
04:27:42,125 --> 04:27:43,492
deploying the workforce   management

8354
04:27:43,492 --> 04:27:45,202
management and scheduling module

8355
04:27:45,202 --> 04:27:45,765
to

8356
04:27:45,765 --> 04:27:46,732
to improve integration and   enable

8357
04:27:46,732 --> 04:27:47,469
enable data-driven insights for

8358
04:27:47,469 --> 04:27:47,704
workforce

8359
04:27:47,704 --> 04:27:47,957
workforce planning.

8360
04:27:47,957 --> 04:27:51,824
finally, from a health and   safety

8361
04:27:51,824 --> 04:27:52,688
safety and emergency management

8362
04:27:52,688 --> 04:27:52,924
perspective

8363
04:27:52,924 --> 04:27:54,353
perspective, as the county grows

8364
04:27:54,353 --> 04:27:54,353
  grows,

8365
04:27:54,353 --> 04:27:55,723
grows, hr will continue to   strengthen

8366
04:27:55,723 --> 04:27:57,288
strengthen its health and safety

8367
04:27:57,288 --> 04:27:57,635
and

8368
04:27:57,635 --> 04:27:59,191
and emergency programs to ensure

8369
04:27:59,191 --> 04:27:59,457
all

8370
04:27:59,457 --> 04:28:01,117
all workplaces meet or exceed

8371
04:28:01,117 --> 04:28:01,117
regulatory

8372
04:28:01,117 --> 04:28:01,355
regulatory requirements.

8373
04:28:01,355 --> 04:28:03,471
we will have targeted training

8374
04:28:03,471 --> 04:28:03,817
,   especially

8375
04:28:03,817 --> 04:28:05,025
especially in emergency   management

8376
04:28:05,025 --> 04:28:07,209
management, and continue to   promote

8377
04:28:07,209 --> 04:28:08,625
promote a culture of shared   responsibility

8378
04:28:08,625 --> 04:28:09,352
responsibility for workplace   safety

8379
04:28:09,352 --> 04:28:09,352
safety.

8380
04:28:09,352 --> 04:28:11,233
with that, over to you.

8381
04:28:11,233 --> 04:28:19,958
>> that concludes the general

8382
04:28:19,958 --> 04:28:19,982
  general government

8383
04:28:19,982 --> 04:28:20,529
general government area.

8384
04:28:20,529 --> 04:28:22,372
if anyone has any questions for

8385
04:28:22,372 --> 04:28:22,732
any

8386
04:28:22,732 --> 04:28:23,956
any of the directors, please   feel

8387
04:28:23,956 --> 04:28:25,493
feel free to ask at this time.

8388
04:28:25,493 --> 04:28:25,493


8389
04:28:25,493 --> 04:28:27,236
>> thank you.

8390
04:28:27,236 --> 04:28:28,401
are there questions?

8391
04:28:28,401 --> 04:28:30,516
we start with councilor prue.

8392
04:28:30,516 --> 04:28:30,998
>> thank you.

8393
04:28:30,998 --> 04:28:32,824
I have two questions.

8394
04:28:32,824 --> 04:28:34,637
the first has to do with truth

8395
04:28:34,637 --> 04:28:34,888
and

8396
04:28:34,888 --> 04:28:35,156
and reconciliation.

8397
04:28:35,156 --> 04:28:37,865
I noticed that that was one of

8398
04:28:37,865 --> 04:28:38,083
the

8399
04:28:38,083 --> 04:28:39,358
the elements that's going to be

8400
04:28:39,358 --> 04:28:39,623
dealt

8401
04:28:39,623 --> 04:28:40,377
dealt with this year.

8402
04:28:40,377 --> 04:28:43,245
can you tell me with whom are

8403
04:28:43,245 --> 04:28:43,245
you

8404
04:28:43,245 --> 04:28:44,948
you going to deal in developing

8405
04:28:44,948 --> 04:28:45,201
this

8406
04:28:45,201 --> 04:28:45,784
this process?

8407
04:28:45,784 --> 04:28:48,483
I would take it probably   caldwell

8408
04:28:48,483 --> 04:28:49,253
caldwell first nations and may

8409
04:28:49,253 --> 04:28:49,835
be

8410
04:28:49,835 --> 04:28:50,102
be another.

8411
04:28:50,102 --> 04:28:51,638
is there anyone else on that   list

8412
04:28:51,638 --> 04:28:52,905
list that will be first -- that

8413
04:28:52,905 --> 04:28:53,156
will

8414
04:28:53,156 --> 04:28:53,676
will be consulted?

8415
04:28:53,676 --> 04:28:59,626
>> we are -- it may have been

8416
04:28:59,626 --> 04:28:59,626
issued

8417
04:28:59,626 --> 04:29:00,968
issued today or yesterday, an

8418
04:29:00,968 --> 04:29:00,968
rfp

8419
04:29:00,968 --> 04:29:02,442
rfp to find a consultant to   assist

8420
04:29:02,442 --> 04:29:02,705
assist us.

8421
04:29:02,705 --> 04:29:05,895
in advance of that, letters were

8422
04:29:05,895 --> 04:29:06,146
sent

8423
04:29:06,146 --> 04:29:07,185
sent out to caldwell first   first nation

8424
04:29:07,185 --> 04:29:07,927
first nation, and indigenous   group

8425
04:29:07,927 --> 04:29:09,151
group at the university of   windsor

8426
04:29:09,151 --> 04:29:12,654
windsor and they can then   friendship

8427
04:29:12,654 --> 04:29:13,649
friendship centre so the three

8428
04:29:13,649 --> 04:29:13,867
local

8429
04:29:13,867 --> 04:29:17,768
local indigenous groups that we

8430
04:29:17,768 --> 04:29:18,018
are

8431
04:29:18,018 --> 04:29:19,235
are aware of have received   letters

8432
04:29:19,235 --> 04:29:20,486
letters from us, asking that   they

8433
04:29:20,486 --> 04:29:21,479
they participate in the process

8434
04:29:21,479 --> 04:29:21,479
.

8435
04:29:21,479 --> 04:29:27,914
>> are there any other groups

8436
04:29:27,914 --> 04:29:27,914
that

8437
04:29:27,914 --> 04:29:29,137
that you may want to use?

8438
04:29:29,137 --> 04:29:32,749
I'm just thinking in terms of

8439
04:29:32,749 --> 04:29:32,749
some

8440
04:29:32,749 --> 04:29:35,041
some of the work that some of

8441
04:29:35,041 --> 04:29:35,041
them

8442
04:29:35,041 --> 04:29:35,291
them do.

8443
04:29:35,291 --> 04:29:36,957
there are groups out there that

8444
04:29:36,957 --> 04:29:37,208
you

8445
04:29:37,208 --> 04:29:37,976
you provide child care.

8446
04:29:37,976 --> 04:29:41,346
there out there that provide   help

8447
04:29:41,346 --> 04:29:42,765
help for older people, for   poverty

8448
04:29:42,765 --> 04:29:46,363
poverty reduction, for a number

8449
04:29:46,363 --> 04:29:46,581
of

8450
04:29:46,581 --> 04:29:47,807
of things that are aboriginal

8451
04:29:47,807 --> 04:29:47,807
base

8452
04:29:47,807 --> 04:29:47,807
base.

8453
04:29:47,807 --> 04:29:49,350
are you dealing with any of them

8454
04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:49,350
  them?

8455
04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:49,350
  them?

8456
04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:53,713
>> I think the vision was, once

8457
04:29:53,713 --> 04:29:53,963
we

8458
04:29:53,963 --> 04:29:55,431
we have a consultant in place,

8459
04:29:55,431 --> 04:29:55,682
we

8460
04:29:55,682 --> 04:29:57,136
we will for grow two we should

8461
04:29:57,136 --> 04:29:57,385
be

8462
04:29:57,385 --> 04:29:58,403
be involving in the process.

8463
04:29:58,403 --> 04:29:59,507
we thought it was appropriate

8464
04:29:59,507 --> 04:29:59,734
to   ensure

8465
04:29:59,734 --> 04:30:01,157
ensure that those in the region

8466
04:30:01,157 --> 04:30:03,817
who

8467
04:30:03,817 --> 04:30:04,794
who are recognized indigenous

8468
04:30:04,794 --> 04:30:04,794
groups

8469
04:30:04,794 --> 04:30:08,401
groups should be advised in   advance

8470
04:30:08,401 --> 04:30:09,379
advance, and that's why rewrote

8471
04:30:09,379 --> 04:30:09,631
to

8472
04:30:09,631 --> 04:30:12,109
to caldwell first nation and the

8473
04:30:12,109 --> 04:30:12,360
two

8474
04:30:12,360 --> 04:30:13,605
two other groups in the city.

8475
04:30:13,605 --> 04:30:18,522
>> are they going to advise on

8476
04:30:18,522 --> 04:30:18,741
the

8477
04:30:18,741 --> 04:30:19,978
the person to conduct the study

8478
04:30:19,978 --> 04:30:20,224
or

8479
04:30:20,224 --> 04:30:21,885
or are they part of the study?

8480
04:30:21,885 --> 04:30:26,505
>> they have been asked to   participate

8481
04:30:26,505 --> 04:30:27,750
participate in the process and

8482
04:30:27,750 --> 04:30:28,019
that

8483
04:30:28,019 --> 04:30:29,950
that the rfp was being issued.

8484
04:30:29,950 --> 04:30:29,950


8485
04:30:29,950 --> 04:30:31,259
>> that would be my question.

8486
04:30:31,259 --> 04:30:34,184
but I do have a question for   someone

8487
04:30:34,184 --> 04:30:34,432
someone else.

8488
04:30:34,432 --> 04:30:38,390
>> any other questions?

8489
04:30:38,390 --> 04:30:47,009
I will go to councilor rogers

8490
04:30:47,009 --> 04:30:47,009
and

8491
04:30:47,009 --> 04:30:48,283
and then come back to you.

8492
04:30:48,283 --> 04:30:50,116
>> may be a clarification piece

8493
04:30:50,116 --> 04:30:51,450
on

8494
04:30:51,450 --> 04:30:52,434
on the truth and reconciliation

8495
04:30:52,434 --> 04:30:52,434
.

8496
04:30:52,434 --> 04:30:58,307
I believe there are 21 steps   within

8497
04:30:58,307 --> 04:30:59,312
within the municipality as far

8498
04:30:59,312 --> 04:30:59,564
as

8499
04:30:59,564 --> 04:31:02,032
as the road to truth and   reconciliation

8500
04:31:02,032 --> 04:31:02,032
reconciliation.

8501
04:31:02,032 --> 04:31:07,242
maybe if you could comment on

8502
04:31:07,242 --> 04:31:07,242
that

8503
04:31:07,242 --> 04:31:08,742
that item, where we're at as far

8504
04:31:08,742 --> 04:31:08,993
as

8505
04:31:08,993 --> 04:31:09,496
as those steps.

8506
04:31:09,496 --> 04:31:11,045
I understand we want to be   respectful

8507
04:31:11,045 --> 04:31:12,295
respectful and ensure we are   taking

8508
04:31:12,295 --> 04:31:13,542
taking those steps but there is

8509
04:31:13,542 --> 04:31:13,793
a

8510
04:31:13,793 --> 04:31:15,058
a booklet that says what   municipalities

8511
04:31:15,058 --> 04:31:15,810
municipalities should be doing

8512
04:31:15,810 --> 04:31:15,810
.

8513
04:31:15,810 --> 04:31:18,370
if we are not doing those items

8514
04:31:18,370 --> 04:31:18,623
first,

8515
04:31:18,623 --> 04:31:20,162
first, to me it doesn't make   sense

8516
04:31:20,162 --> 04:31:21,636
sense to reach out and find more

8517
04:31:21,636 --> 04:31:21,901
items

8518
04:31:21,901 --> 04:31:23,737
items that we should be doing

8519
04:31:23,737 --> 04:31:23,737
before

8520
04:31:23,737 --> 04:31:24,473
before something that's actually

8521
04:31:24,473 --> 04:31:24,719
been

8522
04:31:24,719 --> 04:31:26,234
been documented for us to do   first.

8523
04:31:26,234 --> 04:31:26,234
been documented for us to do   first.

8524
04:31:26,234 --> 04:31:32,342
>> we have limited capabilities

8525
04:31:32,342 --> 04:31:32,593
here

8526
04:31:32,593 --> 04:31:35,268
here at this stage to know what

8527
04:31:35,268 --> 04:31:35,504
we

8528
04:31:35,504 --> 04:31:36,751
we should be doing going forward

8529
04:31:36,751 --> 04:31:36,751
  forward.

8530
04:31:36,751 --> 04:31:36,751
  forward.

8531
04:31:36,751 --> 04:31:38,023
that's the purpose of bringing

8532
04:31:38,023 --> 04:31:38,272
in

8533
04:31:38,272 --> 04:31:39,751
in a consultant to say what   should

8534
04:31:39,751 --> 04:31:41,084
should the county be doing?

8535
04:31:41,084 --> 04:31:42,379
this year, for example, I'm not

8536
04:31:42,379 --> 04:31:42,627
sure

8537
04:31:42,627 --> 04:31:45,237
sure when we started the process

8538
04:31:45,237 --> 04:31:45,485
but

8539
04:31:45,485 --> 04:31:48,192
but we do land to him -- land

8540
04:31:48,192 --> 04:31:48,192
acknowledgements

8541
04:31:48,192 --> 04:31:49,238
acknowledgements at council   meetings

8542
04:31:49,238 --> 04:31:49,238
meetings.

8543
04:31:49,238 --> 04:31:50,298
we ensure truth and   reconciliation

8544
04:31:50,298 --> 04:31:53,117
reconciliation day that there

8545
04:31:53,117 --> 04:31:53,572
is   an

8546
04:31:53,572 --> 04:31:55,477
an event here at the county to

8547
04:31:55,477 --> 04:31:55,744
recognize

8548
04:31:55,744 --> 04:31:56,011
recognize that.

8549
04:31:56,011 --> 04:31:57,549
we are doing what we can do.

8550
04:31:57,549 --> 04:32:00,509
but now we are going to come up

8551
04:32:00,509 --> 04:32:00,964
to

8552
04:32:00,964 --> 04:32:03,428
to a fulsome plan specific to

8553
04:32:03,428 --> 04:32:03,428
the

8554
04:32:03,428 --> 04:32:04,678
the county with our local   indigenous

8555
04:32:04,678 --> 04:32:04,927
indigenous partners.

8556
04:32:04,927 --> 04:32:10,124
>> further three you, madame   worden

8557
04:32:10,124 --> 04:32:11,357
worden, we are using that book

8558
04:32:11,357 --> 04:32:11,608
for

8559
04:32:11,608 --> 04:32:14,001
for reference, and again I think

8560
04:32:14,001 --> 04:32:14,570
it's

8561
04:32:14,570 --> 04:32:15,833
it's 21 items, 20 items.

8562
04:32:15,833 --> 04:32:17,183
you mentioned a couple of them

8563
04:32:17,183 --> 04:32:17,437
but

8564
04:32:17,437 --> 04:32:19,608
but there were more items there

8565
04:32:19,608 --> 04:32:19,608
.

8566
04:32:19,608 --> 04:32:21,642
so my question is is that's   going

8567
04:32:21,642 --> 04:32:23,149
going to be a consultant going

8568
04:32:23,149 --> 04:32:23,383
to

8569
04:32:23,383 --> 04:32:24,798
to tell us the other items that

8570
04:32:24,798 --> 04:32:25,034
have

8571
04:32:25,034 --> 04:32:26,595
have to be done when we already

8572
04:32:26,595 --> 04:32:26,847
have

8573
04:32:26,847 --> 04:32:27,469
have the information.

8574
04:32:27,469 --> 04:32:29,098
my point is we have information

8575
04:32:29,098 --> 04:32:30,430
,   we

8576
04:32:30,430 --> 04:32:31,685
we haven't may be completed   anything

8577
04:32:31,685 --> 04:32:32,436
anything on that list.

8578
04:32:32,436 --> 04:32:34,037
what's the point of bringing in

8579
04:32:34,037 --> 04:32:34,289
another

8580
04:32:34,289 --> 04:32:35,302
another consultant when there

8581
04:32:35,302 --> 04:32:35,551
is   still

8582
04:32:35,551 --> 04:32:36,633
still work to be done?

8583
04:32:36,633 --> 04:32:38,441
maybe it's a question for the

8584
04:32:38,441 --> 04:32:38,441
cao

8585
04:32:38,441 --> 04:32:38,441
cao?

8586
04:32:38,441 --> 04:32:45,177
>> the rfp we have is to develop

8587
04:32:45,177 --> 04:32:45,726
truth

8588
04:32:45,726 --> 04:32:46,476
truth and reconciliation action

8589
04:32:46,476 --> 04:32:46,726
plan

8590
04:32:46,726 --> 04:32:46,726
plan.

8591
04:32:46,726 --> 04:32:49,807
the foundation of that action

8592
04:32:49,807 --> 04:32:49,807
plan

8593
04:32:49,807 --> 04:32:51,695
plan are those directed steps

8594
04:32:51,695 --> 04:32:51,695
that

8595
04:32:51,695 --> 04:32:52,964
that municipalities across the

8596
04:32:52,964 --> 04:32:53,215
province

8597
04:32:53,215 --> 04:32:54,544
province are required to engage

8598
04:32:54,544 --> 04:32:55,013
in

8599
04:32:55,013 --> 04:32:55,013
in.

8600
04:32:55,013 --> 04:32:56,632
the consultant is going to take

8601
04:32:56,632 --> 04:32:56,882
an

8602
04:32:56,882 --> 04:32:58,351
an inventory of the things we

8603
04:32:58,351 --> 04:32:58,351
are

8604
04:32:58,351 --> 04:32:59,589
are already doing and see what

8605
04:32:59,589 --> 04:32:59,615
boxes

8606
04:32:59,615 --> 04:33:02,333
boxes we are achieving and   highlight

8607
04:33:02,333 --> 04:33:03,552
highlight for us to things that

8608
04:33:03,552 --> 04:33:03,803
we

8609
04:33:03,803 --> 04:33:05,295
we are falling short on or build

8610
04:33:05,295 --> 04:33:05,563
us

8611
04:33:05,563 --> 04:33:07,381
us a plan in both short and   long-term

8612
04:33:07,381 --> 04:33:08,590
long-term of how the county can

8613
04:33:08,590 --> 04:33:08,825
move

8614
04:33:08,825 --> 04:33:12,797
move toward full compliance with

8615
04:33:12,797 --> 04:33:13,019
those

8616
04:33:13,019 --> 04:33:14,258
those directions and steps as

8617
04:33:14,258 --> 04:33:14,258
the

8618
04:33:14,258 --> 04:33:16,677
the director said, it's going

8619
04:33:16,677 --> 04:33:16,911
to   be

8620
04:33:16,911 --> 04:33:18,130
be specific to the county of   essex

8621
04:33:18,130 --> 04:33:19,840
essex and the work that we do

8622
04:33:19,840 --> 04:33:19,840
here

8623
04:33:19,840 --> 04:33:20,814
here at the minister polity.

8624
04:33:20,814 --> 04:33:24,301
but also, the summer, we had   representatives

8625
04:33:24,301 --> 04:33:25,307
representatives from amo come

8626
04:33:25,307 --> 04:33:25,307
because

8627
04:33:25,307 --> 04:33:26,395
because as an organization, they

8628
04:33:26,395 --> 04:33:26,646
have

8629
04:33:26,646 --> 04:33:28,073
have also undertaken this work

8630
04:33:28,073 --> 04:33:28,073
.

8631
04:33:28,073 --> 04:33:30,189
we wanted to make sure that our

8632
04:33:30,189 --> 04:33:30,423
rfp

8633
04:33:30,423 --> 04:33:32,021
rfp was informed by the work of

8634
04:33:32,021 --> 04:33:32,239
amo

8635
04:33:32,239 --> 04:33:34,224
amo that we are not duplicating

8636
04:33:34,224 --> 04:33:34,584
things

8637
04:33:34,584 --> 04:33:35,082
things as well.

8638
04:33:35,082 --> 04:33:36,357
so certainly to your point,   there

8639
04:33:36,357 --> 04:33:37,765
there are a number of   foundational

8640
04:33:37,765 --> 04:33:38,740
foundational pieces we need to

8641
04:33:38,740 --> 04:33:39,007
consider

8642
04:33:39,007 --> 04:33:39,007
consider.

8643
04:33:39,007 --> 04:33:42,226
the scope of the work for the

8644
04:33:42,226 --> 04:33:42,226
rfp

8645
04:33:42,226 --> 04:33:43,779
rfp for the consultant asked the

8646
04:33:43,779 --> 04:33:44,031
consultant

8647
04:33:44,031 --> 04:33:45,255
consultant to look at those   foundational

8648
04:33:45,255 --> 04:33:46,246
foundational pieces in light of

8649
04:33:46,246 --> 04:33:46,467
what

8650
04:33:46,467 --> 04:33:47,706
what we are currently doing,   where

8651
04:33:47,706 --> 04:33:49,181
where we have gaps and help us

8652
04:33:49,181 --> 04:33:50,399
build

8653
04:33:50,399 --> 04:33:51,966
build a plan to action ourselves

8654
04:33:51,966 --> 04:33:52,202
towards

8655
04:33:52,202 --> 04:33:53,159
towards compliance on both the

8656
04:33:53,159 --> 04:33:53,409
short

8657
04:33:53,409 --> 04:33:54,133
short and long-term basis.

8658
04:33:54,133 --> 04:33:58,449
>> may be final, I appreciate

8659
04:33:58,449 --> 04:33:58,449
that

8660
04:33:58,449 --> 04:34:00,065
that, I want to make sure, there

8661
04:34:00,065 --> 04:34:00,314
have

8662
04:34:00,314 --> 04:34:01,774
have been steps put out there

8663
04:34:01,774 --> 04:34:01,774
for

8664
04:34:01,774 --> 04:34:03,246
for us to follow and they want

8665
04:34:03,246 --> 04:34:03,494
to

8666
04:34:03,494 --> 04:34:05,258
to make sure that that is the

8667
04:34:05,258 --> 04:34:05,258
guidebook

8668
04:34:05,258 --> 04:34:06,494
guidebook and the path that we

8669
04:34:06,494 --> 04:34:06,743
are

8670
04:34:06,743 --> 04:34:07,263
are following moving forward.

8671
04:34:07,263 --> 04:34:07,709
so thank you.

8672
04:34:07,709 --> 04:34:08,101
>> thank you.

8673
04:34:08,101 --> 04:34:13,169
councilor waldstedt.

8674
04:34:13,169 --> 04:34:15,846
>> a couple of things.

8675
04:34:15,846 --> 04:34:17,362
the first is on the same topic

8676
04:34:17,362 --> 04:34:17,362
.

8677
04:34:17,362 --> 04:34:20,608
if everything is laid out by the

8678
04:34:20,608 --> 04:34:20,859
province

8679
04:34:20,859 --> 04:34:21,834
province of the federal   government

8680
04:34:21,834 --> 04:34:22,621
government with respect to this

8681
04:34:22,621 --> 04:34:22,873
issue

8682
04:34:22,873 --> 04:34:27,178
issue, and I see we are   budgeting

8683
04:34:27,178 --> 04:34:32,006
budgeting $226, 226,000 to tell

8684
04:34:32,006 --> 04:34:32,258
us

8685
04:34:32,258 --> 04:34:34,439
us to go over it and double   check

8686
04:34:34,439 --> 04:34:36,262
check it to see if we are doing

8687
04:34:36,262 --> 04:34:36,513
everything

8688
04:34:36,513 --> 04:34:37,016
everything we should.

8689
04:34:37,016 --> 04:34:39,514
is that not all laid out for us

8690
04:34:39,514 --> 04:34:39,765
already

8691
04:34:39,765 --> 04:34:39,765
already?

8692
04:34:39,765 --> 04:34:42,067
I don't know why we would spend

8693
04:34:42,067 --> 04:34:42,318
a

8694
04:34:42,318 --> 04:34:43,556
a quarter of $1 million to have

8695
04:34:43,556 --> 04:34:43,805
a

8696
04:34:43,805 --> 04:34:44,577
a consultant tell us.

8697
04:34:44,577 --> 04:34:49,655
we have people in charge of   these

8698
04:34:49,655 --> 04:34:51,016
these programs that know what

8699
04:34:51,016 --> 04:34:51,266
we   are

8700
04:34:51,266 --> 04:34:53,221
are doing and we are meeting the

8701
04:34:53,221 --> 04:34:53,486
requirements

8702
04:34:53,486 --> 04:34:54,207
requirements of the legislation

8703
04:34:54,207 --> 04:34:54,571
in

8704
04:34:54,571 --> 04:34:56,998
in the policy at the federal and

8705
04:34:56,998 --> 04:34:57,248
provincial

8706
04:34:57,248 --> 04:34:57,608
provincial level.

8707
04:34:57,608 --> 04:34:59,550
why would we spend a quarter of

8708
04:34:59,550 --> 04:34:59,772
a

8709
04:34:59,772 --> 04:35:01,014
a million dollars to have   somebody

8710
04:35:01,014 --> 04:35:02,505
somebody look at it to tell us

8711
04:35:02,505 --> 04:35:02,741
what

8712
04:35:02,741 --> 04:35:04,205
what we already know and why   would

8713
04:35:04,205 --> 04:35:05,672
would we go beyond what we are

8714
04:35:05,672 --> 04:35:05,906
asked

8715
04:35:05,906 --> 04:35:07,173
asked to do in any event?

8716
04:35:07,173 --> 04:35:21,399
>> just to clarify within the

8717
04:35:21,399 --> 04:35:21,399
budget

8718
04:35:21,399 --> 04:35:23,529
budget, and I'm not sure what's

8719
04:35:23,529 --> 04:35:23,747
mine

8720
04:35:23,747 --> 04:35:25,200
mine is being referred to right

8721
04:35:25,200 --> 04:35:25,437
now

8722
04:35:25,437 --> 04:35:28,627
now but 75,000 has been put in

8723
04:35:28,627 --> 04:35:28,878
for

8724
04:35:28,878 --> 04:35:29,850
for truth and reconciliation   consultant

8725
04:35:29,850 --> 04:35:30,825
consultant and $30,000 has been

8726
04:35:30,825 --> 04:35:31,061
in

8727
04:35:31,061 --> 04:35:33,719
in sort -- inserted for our   record

8728
04:35:33,719 --> 04:35:34,690
record management review that

8729
04:35:34,690 --> 04:35:34,926
I   spoke

8730
04:35:34,926 --> 04:35:35,906
spoke about in my presentation

8731
04:35:35,906 --> 04:35:35,906
.

8732
04:35:35,906 --> 04:35:38,149
>> further?

8733
04:35:38,149 --> 04:35:42,865
>> my question remains the same

8734
04:35:42,865 --> 04:35:42,865
.

8735
04:35:42,865 --> 04:35:44,747
the amount hasn't change, soria

8736
04:35:44,747 --> 04:35:45,002
had

8737
04:35:45,002 --> 04:35:46,226
had the wrong line item.

8738
04:35:46,226 --> 04:35:47,213
70,000 instead of 226?

8739
04:35:47,213 --> 04:35:50,979
that's what I hear.

8740
04:35:50,979 --> 04:35:56,089
any comments on my concern with

8741
04:35:56,089 --> 04:35:56,341
respect

8742
04:35:56,341 --> 04:35:59,645
respect to having an outside   individual

8743
04:35:59,645 --> 04:36:00,163
individual tell us?

8744
04:36:00,163 --> 04:36:03,672
I don't know for sure but if   it's

8745
04:36:03,672 --> 04:36:05,170
it's in black and white in front

8746
04:36:05,170 --> 04:36:05,422
of

8747
04:36:05,422 --> 04:36:07,157
of us, I don't know if we need

8748
04:36:07,157 --> 04:36:07,429
someone

8749
04:36:07,429 --> 04:36:08,924
someone to tell us what that   means

8750
04:36:08,924 --> 04:36:08,924
means.

8751
04:36:08,924 --> 04:36:13,246
>> I'm going to look to our   finance

8752
04:36:13,246 --> 04:36:14,297
finance friends to help confirm

8753
04:36:14,297 --> 04:36:14,545
my

8754
04:36:14,545 --> 04:36:14,811
my understanding.

8755
04:36:14,811 --> 04:36:18,263
the rfp we have just released

8756
04:36:18,263 --> 04:36:18,516
in   2025

8757
04:36:18,516 --> 04:36:21,622
2025 was based on a project   approved

8758
04:36:21,622 --> 04:36:22,590
approved in the 2025 budget.

8759
04:36:22,590 --> 04:36:26,076
we have already approved the   funds

8760
04:36:26,076 --> 04:36:27,095
funds to seek a consultant.

8761
04:36:27,095 --> 04:36:30,365
admittedly, it is late in the

8762
04:36:30,365 --> 04:36:30,365
air

8763
04:36:30,365 --> 04:36:30,365
air.

8764
04:36:30,365 --> 04:36:32,309
we hope to get this project off

8765
04:36:32,309 --> 04:36:32,545
the

8766
04:36:32,545 --> 04:36:33,549
the ground earlier in 2025.

8767
04:36:33,549 --> 04:36:36,135
knowing that amo was working on

8768
04:36:36,135 --> 04:36:36,386
their

8769
04:36:36,386 --> 04:36:38,954
their process, we wanted to   inform

8770
04:36:38,954 --> 04:36:40,459
inform our rfp scope so we   weren't

8771
04:36:40,459 --> 04:36:40,957
weren't duplicating effort.

8772
04:36:40,957 --> 04:36:44,699
my understanding is the budget

8773
04:36:44,699 --> 04:36:44,950
funds

8774
04:36:44,950 --> 04:36:45,969
funds for the consultant's work

8775
04:36:45,969 --> 04:36:46,220
has

8776
04:36:46,220 --> 04:36:48,574
has already been approved in   2025

8777
04:36:48,574 --> 04:36:48,574
2025.

8778
04:36:48,574 --> 04:36:50,804
we have an rfp out right now.

8779
04:36:50,804 --> 04:36:52,371
we hope to secure the consultant

8780
04:36:52,371 --> 04:36:52,618
before

8781
04:36:52,618 --> 04:36:54,113
before the end of the year and

8782
04:36:54,113 --> 04:36:54,366
the

8783
04:36:54,366 --> 04:36:55,941
the work will proceed in 2026.

8784
04:36:55,941 --> 04:36:57,026
perhaps most can clarify that.

8785
04:36:57,026 --> 04:36:57,026


8786
04:36:57,026 --> 04:36:59,404
>> yes, that is correct.

8787
04:36:59,404 --> 04:37:00,449
that was a 2025 initiative.

8788
04:37:00,449 --> 04:37:06,933
the rfp is coming out at the end

8789
04:37:06,933 --> 04:37:07,199
of

8790
04:37:07,199 --> 04:37:08,950
of the year but we do -- we did

8791
04:37:08,950 --> 04:37:09,204
have

8792
04:37:09,204 --> 04:37:10,455
have that approved in the 2025

8793
04:37:10,455 --> 04:37:10,673
budget

8794
04:37:10,673 --> 04:37:10,673
budget.

8795
04:37:10,673 --> 04:37:12,732
>> thank you.

8796
04:37:12,732 --> 04:37:16,902
so it is still at 70,000?

8797
04:37:16,902 --> 04:37:17,950
or are we adding it?

8798
04:37:17,950 --> 04:37:20,763
it was approved in 2025, why's

8799
04:37:20,763 --> 04:37:21,015
it

8800
04:37:21,015 --> 04:37:22,535
it back in the budget again this

8801
04:37:22,535 --> 04:37:22,787
year

8802
04:37:22,787 --> 04:37:22,787
year?

8803
04:37:22,787 --> 04:37:23,636
what am I missing?

8804
04:37:23,636 --> 04:37:31,314
>> I recall it being 50.

8805
04:37:31,314 --> 04:37:33,403
it's a little convoluted because

8806
04:37:33,403 --> 04:37:33,653
that

8807
04:37:33,653 --> 04:37:34,655
that line includes other   consultant

8808
04:37:34,655 --> 04:37:35,954
consultant costs we can get the

8809
04:37:35,954 --> 04:37:36,221
exact

8810
04:37:36,221 --> 04:37:38,057
exact figure but I believe we

8811
04:37:38,057 --> 04:37:38,057
did

8812
04:37:38,057 --> 04:37:39,291
did have 50,000 earmarked in   2025

8813
04:37:39,291 --> 04:37:42,587
2025 for those costs and we will

8814
04:37:42,587 --> 04:37:42,839
confirm

8815
04:37:42,839 --> 04:37:43,858
confirm what the consultant   costs

8816
04:37:43,858 --> 04:37:47,156
costs are for 2026 and what does

8817
04:37:47,156 --> 04:37:47,404
exactly

8818
04:37:47,404 --> 04:37:47,668
exactly where.

8819
04:37:47,668 --> 04:37:52,125
I do remember there being   potentially

8820
04:37:52,125 --> 04:37:54,161
potentially initiatives that   came

8821
04:37:54,161 --> 04:37:55,704
came out of what the rfp advised

8822
04:37:55,704 --> 04:37:55,954
us

8823
04:37:55,954 --> 04:37:56,458
us to do.

8824
04:37:56,458 --> 04:37:57,760
we were trying to locate   daughter

8825
04:37:57,760 --> 04:37:59,992
daughter -- locate dollars but

8826
04:37:59,992 --> 04:38:00,508
I   will

8827
04:38:00,508 --> 04:38:01,743
will confirm that with what's

8828
04:38:01,743 --> 04:38:01,776
in   the budget

8829
04:38:01,776 --> 04:38:01,776
the budget.

8830
04:38:01,776 --> 04:38:09,181
>> my other concern is I guess

8831
04:38:09,181 --> 04:38:09,961
on

8832
04:38:09,961 --> 04:38:14,050
on page 122 of the budget, I see

8833
04:38:14,050 --> 04:38:14,300
salaries

8834
04:38:14,300 --> 04:38:15,270
salaries for county council   salaries

8835
04:38:15,270 --> 04:38:15,270
salaries.

8836
04:38:15,270 --> 04:38:19,004
it goes from 518 to 538.

8837
04:38:19,004 --> 04:38:19,998
what percentage is that?

8838
04:38:19,998 --> 04:38:22,883
a 2% increase or what is the   actual

8839
04:38:22,883 --> 04:38:23,132
actual percentage?

8840
04:38:23,132 --> 04:38:27,357
>> that would be 2.5%.

8841
04:38:27,357 --> 04:38:27,932
>> thank you.

8842
04:38:27,932 --> 04:38:32,734
I'm just concerned, madame   warden

8843
04:38:32,734 --> 04:38:35,923
warden, with respect -- I know

8844
04:38:35,923 --> 04:38:36,174
we've

8845
04:38:36,174 --> 04:38:37,875
we've been going through the   budget

8846
04:38:37,875 --> 04:38:39,128
budget and we've cut some things

8847
04:38:39,128 --> 04:38:39,381
out

8848
04:38:39,381 --> 04:38:41,389
out to try to keep it at a   reasonable

8849
04:38:41,389 --> 04:38:41,658
reasonable level.

8850
04:38:41,658 --> 04:38:44,373
but the canadian economy isn't

8851
04:38:44,373 --> 04:38:44,840
good

8852
04:38:44,840 --> 04:38:45,777
good at all.

8853
04:38:45,777 --> 04:38:48,563
we have 11% unemployment rate

8854
04:38:48,563 --> 04:38:48,815
in   windsor-essex

8855
04:38:48,815 --> 04:38:49,909
windsor-essex county, which I

8856
04:38:49,909 --> 04:38:49,909
understand

8857
04:38:49,909 --> 04:38:51,185
understand is the highest in   canada

8858
04:38:51,185 --> 04:38:51,185
canada.

8859
04:38:51,185 --> 04:38:53,799
I just don't think it is proper

8860
04:38:53,799 --> 04:38:54,053
for

8861
04:38:54,053 --> 04:38:58,554
for us -- we talk about social   social service

8862
04:38:58,554 --> 04:38:59,061
social service requirement and

8863
04:38:59,061 --> 04:38:59,312
housing

8864
04:38:59,312 --> 04:39:00,328
housing and everything else and

8865
04:39:00,328 --> 04:39:00,365
I

8866
04:39:00,365 --> 04:39:04,109
I know it's probably in line   with

8867
04:39:04,109 --> 04:39:05,522
with what would be -- what we've

8868
04:39:05,522 --> 04:39:05,774
been

8869
04:39:05,774 --> 04:39:06,779
been giving through union   agreements

8870
04:39:06,779 --> 04:39:10,167
agreements but we need to be   responsible

8871
04:39:10,167 --> 04:39:11,499
responsible, and I know it's not

8872
04:39:11,499 --> 04:39:11,749
a

8873
04:39:11,749 --> 04:39:12,501
a lot of money.

8874
04:39:12,501 --> 04:39:13,770
it's about $20,000 but I think

8875
04:39:13,770 --> 04:39:14,021
it's

8876
04:39:14,021 --> 04:39:17,180
it's important that we show some

8877
04:39:17,180 --> 04:39:17,430
leadership

8878
04:39:17,430 --> 04:39:18,435
leadership with respect to that

8879
04:39:18,435 --> 04:39:18,435
.

8880
04:39:18,435 --> 04:39:19,730
I am not in favour of increasing

8881
04:39:19,730 --> 04:39:22,385
wages

8882
04:39:22,385 --> 04:39:23,594
wages by 2.5% for this year.

8883
04:39:23,594 --> 04:39:27,001
I know that arguments can be   made

8884
04:39:27,001 --> 04:39:29,608
made that if we do this, we do

8885
04:39:29,608 --> 04:39:29,861
this

8886
04:39:29,861 --> 04:39:31,087
this constantly and we are   falling

8887
04:39:31,087 --> 04:39:32,335
falling behind but every few   years

8888
04:39:32,335 --> 04:39:35,832
years, council seems to have a

8889
04:39:35,832 --> 04:39:36,068
study

8890
04:39:36,068 --> 04:39:37,565
study done in any event that   takes

8891
04:39:37,565 --> 04:39:40,545
takes a look at it and   inevitably

8892
04:39:40,545 --> 04:39:42,389
inevitably it increases in some

8893
04:39:42,389 --> 04:39:42,731
way

8894
04:39:42,731 --> 04:39:43,776
way, shape or fashion.

8895
04:39:43,776 --> 04:39:45,547
but that is for future councils

8896
04:39:45,547 --> 04:39:45,812
to

8897
04:39:45,812 --> 04:39:46,066
to decide.

8898
04:39:46,066 --> 04:39:49,043
why am not in favour of that.

8899
04:39:49,043 --> 04:39:51,336
I won't support this part of the

8900
04:39:51,336 --> 04:39:51,575
budget

8901
04:39:51,575 --> 04:39:53,028
budget unless there is some way

8902
04:39:53,028 --> 04:39:53,387
of

8903
04:39:53,387 --> 04:39:54,843
of pulling that item out and   dealing

8904
04:39:54,843 --> 04:39:56,853
dealing with it separate or   dealing

8905
04:39:56,853 --> 04:39:58,718
dealing with the motion to   approve

8906
04:39:58,718 --> 04:40:05,054
approve it but not increasing

8907
04:40:05,054 --> 04:40:05,054
the

8908
04:40:05,054 --> 04:40:06,050
the salaries and indemnities for

8909
04:40:06,050 --> 04:40:06,300
council

8910
04:40:06,300 --> 04:40:06,300
council.

8911
04:40:06,300 --> 04:40:08,133
>> thank you.

8912
04:40:08,133 --> 04:40:12,418
councilor deyong.

8913
04:40:12,418 --> 04:40:15,117
>> I have a question on the   council

8914
04:40:15,117 --> 04:40:15,633
council services budget.

8915
04:40:15,633 --> 04:40:19,366
meeting expenses have been   pretty

8916
04:40:19,366 --> 04:40:20,736
pretty steady and then it   triples

8917
04:40:20,736 --> 04:40:21,327
triples this year.

8918
04:40:21,327 --> 04:40:22,383
I'm wondering what they expected

8919
04:40:22,383 --> 04:40:25,908
-- what that line is?

8920
04:40:25,908 --> 04:40:27,947
line 2110.

8921
04:40:27,947 --> 04:40:31,996
>> I will start as david   continues

8922
04:40:31,996 --> 04:40:32,497
continues to look.

8923
04:40:32,497 --> 04:40:36,391
in 2026, it will be an election

8924
04:40:36,391 --> 04:40:36,641
year

8925
04:40:36,641 --> 04:40:36,641
year.

8926
04:40:36,641 --> 04:40:38,219
so what we were finding when we

8927
04:40:38,219 --> 04:40:38,467
were

8928
04:40:38,467 --> 04:40:39,719
were going through the budget

8929
04:40:39,719 --> 04:40:39,970
is   that

8930
04:40:39,970 --> 04:40:41,500
that we weren't allocating   enough

8931
04:40:41,500 --> 04:40:44,196
enough to reserves for those   meetings

8932
04:40:44,196 --> 04:40:44,808
meetings every year.

8933
04:40:44,808 --> 04:40:46,217
I know there's the wardens   luncheon

8934
04:40:46,217 --> 04:40:47,486
luncheon and stuff like that   that

8935
04:40:47,486 --> 04:40:49,360
that happens once every four   years

8936
04:40:49,360 --> 04:40:49,360
years.

8937
04:40:49,360 --> 04:40:51,191
you will definitely see a spike

8938
04:40:51,191 --> 04:40:51,440
in

8939
04:40:51,440 --> 04:40:52,775
in there because of those   reasons

8940
04:40:52,775 --> 04:40:54,300
reasons as well as some other

8941
04:40:54,300 --> 04:40:54,300
items

8942
04:40:54,300 --> 04:40:56,555
items related to it being an   election

8943
04:40:56,555 --> 04:40:56,834
election year.

8944
04:40:56,834 --> 04:41:03,876
>> just to clarify, there is no

8945
04:41:03,876 --> 04:41:04,129
actual

8946
04:41:04,129 --> 04:41:04,993
actual election activity expense

8947
04:41:04,993 --> 04:41:05,245
that

8948
04:41:05,245 --> 04:41:07,146
that the county incurs, or is

8949
04:41:07,146 --> 04:41:07,146
there

8950
04:41:07,146 --> 04:41:07,146
there?

8951
04:41:07,146 --> 04:41:08,924
you are talking about the   outcome

8952
04:41:08,924 --> 04:41:10,267
outcome of the election and the

8953
04:41:10,267 --> 04:41:10,502
new

8954
04:41:10,502 --> 04:41:11,837
new council and whatever is   involved

8955
04:41:11,837 --> 04:41:12,838
involved with onboarding the new

8956
04:41:12,838 --> 04:41:13,073
council

8957
04:41:13,073 --> 04:41:14,276
council but is there an election

8958
04:41:14,276 --> 04:41:14,513
expense

8959
04:41:14,513 --> 04:41:15,013
expense as well?

8960
04:41:15,013 --> 04:41:21,033
>> yes, and no.

8961
04:41:21,033 --> 04:41:24,903
they know being we are not   involved

8962
04:41:24,903 --> 04:41:26,153
involved in the elections but

8963
04:41:26,153 --> 04:41:26,153
there

8964
04:41:26,153 --> 04:41:28,903
there always is an annual --   every

8965
04:41:28,903 --> 04:41:31,257
every four years there is a   dinner,

8966
04:41:31,257 --> 04:41:32,669
dinner, organizing the former

8967
04:41:32,669 --> 04:41:35,297
--   we

8968
04:41:35,297 --> 04:41:35,895
we do that.

8969
04:41:35,895 --> 04:41:39,355
going forward, we want to level

8970
04:41:39,355 --> 04:41:39,607
this

8971
04:41:39,607 --> 04:41:41,329
this off so there's a little   money

8972
04:41:41,329 --> 04:41:43,151
money put aside each year so you

8973
04:41:43,151 --> 04:41:43,416
don't

8974
04:41:43,416 --> 04:41:44,655
don't see huge spikes in   election

8975
04:41:44,655 --> 04:41:44,907
election years.

8976
04:41:44,907 --> 04:41:52,144
>> councilor bondy.

8977
04:41:52,144 --> 04:41:55,015
>> thank you.

8978
04:41:55,015 --> 04:41:57,076
a couple of comments already out

8979
04:41:57,076 --> 04:41:57,343
there

8980
04:41:57,343 --> 04:41:59,721
there, the wardens outgoing   dinner

8981
04:41:59,721 --> 04:42:04,162
dinner, that has never been   considered

8982
04:42:04,162 --> 04:42:05,755
considered to be a ticketed   event

8983
04:42:05,755 --> 04:42:05,755
event.

8984
04:42:05,755 --> 04:42:07,325
from what I remember, it is not

8985
04:42:07,325 --> 04:42:07,574
ticketed

8986
04:42:07,574 --> 04:42:07,574
ticketed.

8987
04:42:07,574 --> 04:42:09,327
the people that get invited   don't

8988
04:42:09,327 --> 04:42:10,326
don't have to pay anything.

8989
04:42:10,326 --> 04:42:14,268
rather than doing maintenance

8990
04:42:14,268 --> 04:42:14,518
on   the

8991
04:42:14,518 --> 04:42:15,799
the wages, I would rather look

8992
04:42:15,799 --> 04:42:16,049
at

8993
04:42:16,049 --> 04:42:18,703
at that -- like I would buy my

8994
04:42:18,703 --> 04:42:18,953
ticket

8995
04:42:18,953 --> 04:42:18,953
ticket.

8996
04:42:18,953 --> 04:42:20,301
has that ever been looked at?

8997
04:42:20,301 --> 04:42:23,593
>> it is a ticketed events.

8998
04:42:23,593 --> 04:42:25,547
I don't recall the amount of the

8999
04:42:25,547 --> 04:42:25,798
tickets

9000
04:42:25,798 --> 04:42:26,809
tickets but it is ticketed.

9001
04:42:26,809 --> 04:42:28,185
$125 per ticket.

9002
04:42:28,185 --> 04:42:34,192
>> thank you.

9003
04:42:34,192 --> 04:42:36,357
I don't think I've ever paid for

9004
04:42:36,357 --> 04:42:36,608
it

9005
04:42:36,608 --> 04:42:36,608
it.

9006
04:42:36,608 --> 04:42:37,936
my local must pay for it.

9007
04:42:37,936 --> 04:42:40,363
I don't think we have.

9008
04:42:40,363 --> 04:42:40,924
I don't know.

9009
04:42:40,924 --> 04:42:43,423
I look -- I could be wrong.

9010
04:42:43,423 --> 04:42:45,210
I look forward to paying for it

9011
04:42:45,210 --> 04:42:45,459
this

9012
04:42:45,459 --> 04:42:45,708
this year.

9013
04:42:45,708 --> 04:42:47,346
I will support if someone makes

9014
04:42:47,346 --> 04:42:47,595
a

9015
04:42:47,595 --> 04:42:49,340
a motion or I can make a motion

9016
04:42:49,340 --> 04:42:49,809
,   I

9017
04:42:49,809 --> 04:42:51,325
I will support the budget as   presented

9018
04:42:51,325 --> 04:42:51,325
presented.

9019
04:42:51,325 --> 04:42:54,245
I don't believe that we should

9020
04:42:54,245 --> 04:42:54,821
pull

9021
04:42:54,821 --> 04:42:56,303
pull out the maintenance on   county

9022
04:42:56,303 --> 04:42:57,069
county councillors salaries   because

9023
04:42:57,069 --> 04:43:00,732
because that is what got us so

9024
04:43:00,732 --> 04:43:00,983
far

9025
04:43:00,983 --> 04:43:02,512
far behind, was not doing   maintenance

9026
04:43:02,512 --> 04:43:03,263
maintenance on the salaries.

9027
04:43:03,263 --> 04:43:04,833
so I don't want to go backwards

9028
04:43:04,833 --> 04:43:05,084
on

9029
04:43:05,084 --> 04:43:05,334
on that.

9030
04:43:05,334 --> 04:43:09,021
I think it is responsible for

9031
04:43:09,021 --> 04:43:09,287
us   to

9032
04:43:09,287 --> 04:43:11,417
to keep the maintenance in there

9033
04:43:11,417 --> 04:43:11,417
  there,

9034
04:43:11,417 --> 04:43:12,486
there, just like everything.

9035
04:43:12,486 --> 04:43:13,894
the reason why we were targeted

9036
04:43:13,894 --> 04:43:14,132
this

9037
04:43:14,132 --> 04:43:16,240
this term, some of us, was   because

9038
04:43:16,240 --> 04:43:17,210
because there was no responsible

9039
04:43:17,210 --> 04:43:17,459
maintenance

9040
04:43:17,459 --> 04:43:18,206
maintenance in the future.

9041
04:43:18,206 --> 04:43:21,739
whether we make a motion that

9042
04:43:21,739 --> 04:43:21,988
we   receive

9043
04:43:21,988 --> 04:43:23,578
receive this or pull it out, I'm

9044
04:43:23,578 --> 04:43:24,140
willing

9045
04:43:24,140 --> 04:43:25,364
willing to make the motion that

9046
04:43:25,364 --> 04:43:25,614
we

9047
04:43:25,614 --> 04:43:26,342
we do it all.

9048
04:43:26,342 --> 04:43:32,641
>> I just want to get a line of

9049
04:43:32,641 --> 04:43:32,861
established

9050
04:43:32,861 --> 04:43:33,109
established year.

9051
04:43:33,109 --> 04:43:35,388
the first to speak are going to

9052
04:43:35,388 --> 04:43:35,638
have

9053
04:43:35,638 --> 04:43:35,889
have preference.

9054
04:43:35,889 --> 04:43:37,874
then I will come back to   councilor

9055
04:43:37,874 --> 04:43:39,735
councilor prue and then   councilor

9056
04:43:39,735 --> 04:43:39,987
councilor deyong.

9057
04:43:39,987 --> 04:43:40,297
councilor akpata.

9058
04:43:40,297 --> 04:43:40,636
>> thank you.

9059
04:43:40,636 --> 04:43:43,587
to the director of I.t., a quick

9060
04:43:43,587 --> 04:43:43,838
question

9061
04:43:43,838 --> 04:43:48,199
question on the end of support

9062
04:43:48,199 --> 04:43:48,451
for

9063
04:43:48,451 --> 04:43:49,620
for the windows 10 solution.

9064
04:43:49,620 --> 04:43:50,681
have we transition completely?

9065
04:43:50,681 --> 04:43:50,681


9066
04:43:50,681 --> 04:43:52,345
we don't have machines tucked

9067
04:43:52,345 --> 04:43:52,814
in   corners

9068
04:43:52,814 --> 04:43:53,325
corners running it?

9069
04:43:53,325 --> 04:43:55,182
just want to make sure we're in

9070
04:43:55,182 --> 04:43:55,431
the

9071
04:43:55,431 --> 04:43:56,907
the proper cyberspace that we

9072
04:43:56,907 --> 04:43:56,907
need

9073
04:43:56,907 --> 04:43:57,406
need to be.

9074
04:43:57,406 --> 04:43:58,965
>> we do have some machines left

9075
04:43:58,965 --> 04:43:59,213
in

9076
04:43:59,213 --> 04:44:00,213
in the environment with windows

9077
04:44:00,213 --> 04:44:01,550
  windows 10

9078
04:44:01,550 --> 04:44:01,550
windows 10.

9079
04:44:01,550 --> 04:44:05,371
they support systems that are

9080
04:44:05,371 --> 04:44:05,371
third

9081
04:44:05,371 --> 04:44:06,353
third party proprietary and   cannot

9082
04:44:06,353 --> 04:44:07,640
cannot be updated at this time

9083
04:44:07,640 --> 04:44:07,640
.

9084
04:44:07,640 --> 04:44:11,176
we are taking extra diligence

9085
04:44:11,176 --> 04:44:11,429
to   make

9086
04:44:11,429 --> 04:44:12,927
make sure that every patch that

9087
04:44:12,927 --> 04:44:13,397
we

9088
04:44:13,397 --> 04:44:15,029
we can apply to those is applied

9089
04:44:15,029 --> 04:44:15,293
and

9090
04:44:15,293 --> 04:44:17,381
and we are working with our mdr

9091
04:44:17,381 --> 04:44:18,151
service

9092
04:44:18,151 --> 04:44:19,658
service provider to ensure those

9093
04:44:19,658 --> 04:44:19,924
systems

9094
04:44:19,924 --> 04:44:20,673
systems are specifically   monitored

9095
04:44:20,673 --> 04:44:22,078
monitored as well because they

9096
04:44:22,078 --> 04:44:22,315
are

9097
04:44:22,315 --> 04:44:23,604
are still machines.

9098
04:44:23,604 --> 04:44:29,341
>> a supplemental, I want to   make

9099
04:44:29,341 --> 04:44:31,775
make sure that I understand the

9100
04:44:31,775 --> 04:44:32,024
machines

9101
04:44:32,024 --> 04:44:32,766
machines running windows 10   aren't

9102
04:44:32,766 --> 04:44:33,857
aren't running any critical --

9103
04:44:33,857 --> 04:44:34,083
without

9104
04:44:34,083 --> 04:44:35,813
without breaching security, I

9105
04:44:35,813 --> 04:44:35,813
would

9106
04:44:35,813 --> 04:44:37,062
would assume were not running

9107
04:44:37,062 --> 04:44:37,062
critical

9108
04:44:37,062 --> 04:44:38,053
critical for structure or   anything

9109
04:44:38,053 --> 04:44:38,560
anything like that.

9110
04:44:38,560 --> 04:44:41,432
you've got them walled off so

9111
04:44:41,432 --> 04:44:41,432
should

9112
04:44:41,432 --> 04:44:42,838
should something happen, you are

9113
04:44:42,838 --> 04:44:43,072
able

9114
04:44:43,072 --> 04:44:45,160
able to mitigate what may happen

9115
04:44:45,160 --> 04:44:45,612
with

9116
04:44:45,612 --> 04:44:46,477
with running old software.

9117
04:44:46,477 --> 04:44:48,478
>> that is a good assumption.

9118
04:44:48,478 --> 04:44:49,276
>> thank you, madame warden.

9119
04:44:49,276 --> 04:44:50,997
>> thank you.

9120
04:44:50,997 --> 04:44:51,523
no other questions?

9121
04:44:51,523 --> 04:44:57,386
I will come back to councilor

9122
04:44:57,386 --> 04:44:57,386
prue

9123
04:44:57,386 --> 04:44:57,386
prue.

9124
04:44:57,386 --> 04:44:59,757
>> thank you, madame warden.

9125
04:44:59,757 --> 04:45:01,044
my other question relates to the

9126
04:45:01,044 --> 04:45:01,296
credit

9127
04:45:01,296 --> 04:45:01,548
credit rating.

9128
04:45:01,548 --> 04:45:04,238
I remember if it wasn't laughter

9129
04:45:04,238 --> 04:45:04,238
  laughter,

9130
04:45:04,238 --> 04:45:06,485
laughter, may be the year before

9131
04:45:06,485 --> 04:45:06,485
  before,

9132
04:45:06,485 --> 04:45:07,951
before, there was quite a   spirited

9133
04:45:07,951 --> 04:45:09,371
spirited debate about a credit

9134
04:45:09,371 --> 04:45:10,153
rating

9135
04:45:10,153 --> 04:45:10,153
rating.

9136
04:45:10,153 --> 04:45:13,206
I remember speaking against it

9137
04:45:13,206 --> 04:45:13,453
and

9138
04:45:13,453 --> 04:45:14,456
and everyone voted to continue

9139
04:45:14,456 --> 04:45:15,030
with

9140
04:45:15,030 --> 04:45:15,796
with the credit rating.

9141
04:45:15,796 --> 04:45:17,668
all of a sudden, we have a   motion

9142
04:45:17,668 --> 04:45:19,279
motion that we don't need it   anymore

9143
04:45:19,279 --> 04:45:19,279
anymore.

9144
04:45:19,279 --> 04:45:21,042
can you tell me what the change

9145
04:45:21,042 --> 04:45:21,302
has

9146
04:45:21,302 --> 04:45:22,511
has been during that period?

9147
04:45:22,511 --> 04:45:23,805
I agree we don't need it.

9148
04:45:23,805 --> 04:45:25,531
we didn't need it then either.

9149
04:45:25,531 --> 04:45:25,531


9150
04:45:25,531 --> 04:45:27,357
but why now are you saying we

9151
04:45:27,357 --> 04:45:27,357
don't

9152
04:45:27,357 --> 04:45:27,857
don't need it?

9153
04:45:27,857 --> 04:45:32,314
>> the conversation was had in

9154
04:45:32,314 --> 04:45:33,226
2025

9155
04:45:33,226 --> 04:45:34,707
2025 when I did a thorough   analysis

9156
04:45:34,707 --> 04:45:36,175
analysis of what it means to   actually

9157
04:45:36,175 --> 04:45:37,432
actually get this done and what

9158
04:45:37,432 --> 04:45:37,684
the

9159
04:45:37,684 --> 04:45:38,934
the consensus was at that time

9160
04:45:38,934 --> 04:45:39,184
was

9161
04:45:39,184 --> 04:45:40,424
was it would be deliberated at

9162
04:45:40,424 --> 04:45:40,675
budget

9163
04:45:40,675 --> 04:45:40,925
budget time.

9164
04:45:40,925 --> 04:45:43,221
we didn't include it in the   budget

9165
04:45:43,221 --> 04:45:43,719
budget right now.

9166
04:45:43,719 --> 04:45:45,266
however, if you choose to put

9167
04:45:45,266 --> 04:45:45,518
it   back

9168
04:45:45,518 --> 04:45:48,289
back in the budget, it's $28,000

9169
04:45:48,289 --> 04:45:48,540
that

9170
04:45:48,540 --> 04:45:50,624
that there is the opportunity

9171
04:45:50,624 --> 04:45:50,874
to   do

9172
04:45:50,874 --> 04:45:51,124
do that.

9173
04:45:51,124 --> 04:45:53,277
there wasn't consensus, it was

9174
04:45:53,277 --> 04:45:53,529
more

9175
04:45:53,529 --> 04:45:55,000
more or less deliberated at   budget

9176
04:45:55,000 --> 04:45:56,253
budget time because we had   already

9177
04:45:56,253 --> 04:45:58,441
already approved $2025, and the

9178
04:45:58,441 --> 04:45:58,688
exercise

9179
04:45:58,688 --> 04:45:59,468
exercise happened in october of

9180
04:45:59,468 --> 04:45:59,708
every

9181
04:45:59,708 --> 04:45:59,960
every year.

9182
04:45:59,960 --> 04:46:02,034
I think it was, we are ready   approved

9183
04:46:02,034 --> 04:46:04,037
approved the budget or the   credit

9184
04:46:04,037 --> 04:46:05,882
credit rating in 2025 and then

9185
04:46:05,882 --> 04:46:06,118
we

9186
04:46:06,118 --> 04:46:07,153
we will deliberated for 2026.

9187
04:46:07,153 --> 04:46:10,669
>> why did you take it out of

9188
04:46:10,669 --> 04:46:10,669
the

9189
04:46:10,669 --> 04:46:10,917
the budget?

9190
04:46:10,917 --> 04:46:13,607
>> based on council direction

9191
04:46:13,607 --> 04:46:15,384
to   that

9192
04:46:15,384 --> 04:46:17,375
that at or below inflation, we

9193
04:46:17,375 --> 04:46:17,627
chose

9194
04:46:17,627 --> 04:46:19,039
chose -- administration chose

9195
04:46:19,039 --> 04:46:19,305
to   take

9196
04:46:19,305 --> 04:46:19,791
take it out.

9197
04:46:19,791 --> 04:46:21,152
but obviously there is an   opportunity

9198
04:46:21,152 --> 04:46:22,406
opportunity to still put it back

9199
04:46:22,406 --> 04:46:22,658
in

9200
04:46:22,658 --> 04:46:22,658
in.

9201
04:46:22,658 --> 04:46:24,430
>> but you took it out because

9202
04:46:24,430 --> 04:46:24,679
you

9203
04:46:24,679 --> 04:46:25,922
you didn't think it was   necessary

9204
04:46:25,922 --> 04:46:25,922
necessary.

9205
04:46:25,922 --> 04:46:28,355
it's not something that is   really

9206
04:46:28,355 --> 04:46:28,606
really required?

9207
04:46:28,606 --> 04:46:32,858
>> it is up for council debate

9208
04:46:32,858 --> 04:46:32,858
.

9209
04:46:32,858 --> 04:46:36,427
I guess when we are looking at

9210
04:46:36,427 --> 04:46:36,677
the

9211
04:46:36,677 --> 04:46:37,911
the priorities, it wasn't the

9212
04:46:37,911 --> 04:46:37,911
highest

9213
04:46:37,911 --> 04:46:39,196
highest priority so we did leave

9214
04:46:39,196 --> 04:46:39,462
it

9215
04:46:39,462 --> 04:46:39,713
it out.

9216
04:46:39,713 --> 04:46:41,323
>> okay.

9217
04:46:41,323 --> 04:46:44,991
thank you for that.

9218
04:46:44,991 --> 04:46:46,809
just as a comment to the other

9219
04:46:46,809 --> 04:46:47,072
thing

9220
04:46:47,072 --> 04:46:49,241
thing, I was 1 of 3 who did not

9221
04:46:49,241 --> 04:46:49,810
vote

9222
04:46:49,810 --> 04:46:51,061
vote for the increase in   salaries

9223
04:46:51,061 --> 04:46:52,784
salaries and I do not feel that

9224
04:46:52,784 --> 04:46:53,033
I

9225
04:46:53,033 --> 04:46:57,213
I can vote for a 2.5% increase

9226
04:46:57,213 --> 04:46:57,464
on

9227
04:46:57,464 --> 04:46:59,291
on a salary increase I did not

9228
04:46:59,291 --> 04:46:59,542
approve

9229
04:46:59,542 --> 04:47:00,522
approve in the first place.

9230
04:47:00,522 --> 04:47:02,375
so I will be joining councilor

9231
04:47:02,375 --> 04:47:02,929
waldstedt

9232
04:47:02,929 --> 04:47:03,980
waldstedt, if that comes up.

9233
04:47:03,980 --> 04:47:04,053
thank you.

9234
04:47:04,053 --> 04:47:07,471
>> thank you.

9235
04:47:07,471 --> 04:47:07,882
councilor deyong.

9236
04:47:07,882 --> 04:47:08,204
>> thank you.

9237
04:47:08,204 --> 04:47:09,650
there are so many different   budgets

9238
04:47:09,650 --> 04:47:12,226
budgets and I had my questions

9239
04:47:12,226 --> 04:47:12,477
in

9240
04:47:12,477 --> 04:47:12,964
in a row.

9241
04:47:12,964 --> 04:47:14,277
I wanted to get clarification.

9242
04:47:14,277 --> 04:47:14,277


9243
04:47:14,277 --> 04:47:16,739
I think it was the financial   services

9244
04:47:16,739 --> 04:47:17,746
services budget you talked about

9245
04:47:17,746 --> 04:47:17,746
  about.

9246
04:47:17,746 --> 04:47:17,746
  about.

9247
04:47:17,746 --> 04:47:19,069
I think it's a million dollars

9248
04:47:19,069 --> 04:47:20,764
of

9249
04:47:20,764 --> 04:47:21,758
of the financial services budget

9250
04:47:21,758 --> 04:47:22,008
going

9251
04:47:22,008 --> 04:47:22,509
going toward ems.

9252
04:47:22,509 --> 04:47:24,641
I wanted to make sure I heard

9253
04:47:24,641 --> 04:47:24,641
that

9254
04:47:24,641 --> 04:47:24,910
that clearly.

9255
04:47:24,910 --> 04:47:26,465
there's a lot of talk around ems

9256
04:47:26,465 --> 04:47:26,717
today

9257
04:47:26,717 --> 04:47:28,267
today but it's under financial

9258
04:47:28,267 --> 04:47:28,515
services

9259
04:47:28,515 --> 04:47:29,516
services budget going to reserve

9260
04:47:29,516 --> 04:47:29,770
for

9261
04:47:29,770 --> 04:47:31,287
for the spoke building.

9262
04:47:31,287 --> 04:47:32,685
is that what I understand?

9263
04:47:32,685 --> 04:47:33,070
>> correct.

9264
04:47:33,070 --> 04:47:35,578
finance houses the land so we

9265
04:47:35,578 --> 04:47:35,578
would

9266
04:47:35,578 --> 04:47:37,179
would own the land and the   building

9267
04:47:37,179 --> 04:47:37,179
building.

9268
04:47:37,179 --> 04:47:38,718
so we have that under the   finance

9269
04:47:38,718 --> 04:47:42,051
finance budget but it is for ems

9270
04:47:42,051 --> 04:47:42,302
capital

9271
04:47:42,302 --> 04:47:42,302
capital.

9272
04:47:42,302 --> 04:47:42,609
>> thank you.

9273
04:47:42,609 --> 04:47:43,906
and back to mr. Sunday and, you

9274
04:47:43,906 --> 04:47:44,156
talked

9275
04:47:44,156 --> 04:47:47,539
talked about appendix three and

9276
04:47:47,539 --> 04:47:47,758
I

9277
04:47:47,758 --> 04:47:49,582
I wanted to give you an   opportunity

9278
04:47:49,582 --> 04:47:50,991
opportunity, I'm looking   specifically

9279
04:47:50,991 --> 04:47:50,991
specifically

9280
04:47:50,991 --> 04:47:50,991
specifically

9281
04:47:50,991 --> 04:47:50,991
specifically

9282
04:47:50,991 --> 04:47:52,791
at 19 and 20 and I   wonder

9283
04:47:52,791 --> 04:47:53,811
wonder if they go together.

9284
04:47:53,811 --> 04:47:56,978
19 is reserve funded so I don't

9285
04:47:56,978 --> 04:47:57,228
understand

9286
04:47:57,228 --> 04:47:58,904
understand why we would do that

9287
04:47:58,904 --> 04:47:58,904
.

9288
04:47:58,904 --> 04:48:01,260
I'm guessing maybe it is only

9289
04:48:01,260 --> 04:48:01,260
possible

9290
04:48:01,260 --> 04:48:02,263
possible if we do 20?

9291
04:48:02,263 --> 04:48:06,017
>> yes, number 19 and 20 are the

9292
04:48:06,017 --> 04:48:06,393
two

9293
04:48:06,393 --> 04:48:08,317
two are referred to in my   presentation

9294
04:48:08,317 --> 04:48:08,317
presentation.

9295
04:48:08,317 --> 04:48:09,835
19 observe funded in order to

9296
04:48:09,835 --> 04:48:09,835
make

9297
04:48:09,835 --> 04:48:10,822
make improvements to a room in

9298
04:48:10,822 --> 04:48:11,075
the

9299
04:48:11,075 --> 04:48:11,326
the basement.

9300
04:48:11,326 --> 04:48:15,137
records management is managed

9301
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,137
records management is managed

9302
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,137
records management is managed

9303
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,137


9304
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,137


9305
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,137


9306
04:48:15,137 --> 04:48:15,638
by   the

9307
04:48:15,638 --> 04:48:18,617
the deputy clerk, who follows

9308
04:48:18,617 --> 04:48:18,934
--   who

9309
04:48:18,934 --> 04:48:20,263
who falls within my department

9310
04:48:20,263 --> 04:48:20,263
.

9311
04:48:20,263 --> 04:48:22,125
we have records that are kind

9312
04:48:22,125 --> 04:48:22,345
of   everywhere

9313
04:48:22,345 --> 04:48:23,097
everywhere across the county.

9314
04:48:23,097 --> 04:48:25,599
we're trying to get to the point

9315
04:48:25,599 --> 04:48:25,818
where

9316
04:48:25,818 --> 04:48:26,819
where records are eventually   digitized

9317
04:48:26,819 --> 04:48:28,038
digitized to the extent possible

9318
04:48:28,038 --> 04:48:28,038
  possible.

9319
04:48:28,038 --> 04:48:28,038
  possible.

9320
04:48:28,038 --> 04:48:29,866
those that have to be stored in

9321
04:48:29,866 --> 04:48:30,114
long-term

9322
04:48:30,114 --> 04:48:31,770
long-term are in one locked and

9323
04:48:31,770 --> 04:48:32,021
secure

9324
04:48:32,021 --> 04:48:32,270
secure location.

9325
04:48:32,270 --> 04:48:33,996
that's what we are working   toward

9326
04:48:33,996 --> 04:48:33,996
toward.

9327
04:48:33,996 --> 04:48:35,353
the ideal being the description

9328
04:48:35,353 --> 04:48:35,607
that's

9329
04:48:35,607 --> 04:48:38,246
that's in -- within the appendix

9330
04:48:38,246 --> 04:48:38,622
three

9331
04:48:38,622 --> 04:48:40,430
three is to say we need to get

9332
04:48:40,430 --> 04:48:40,681
this

9333
04:48:40,681 --> 04:48:41,910
this room ready to receive those

9334
04:48:41,910 --> 04:48:42,161
records

9335
04:48:42,161 --> 04:48:46,428
records somewhat timely, if   there's

9336
04:48:46,428 --> 04:48:47,426
there's going to be renovations

9337
04:48:47,426 --> 04:48:47,785
in

9338
04:48:47,785 --> 04:48:49,033
in the basement or library,   perhaps

9339
04:48:49,033 --> 04:48:50,519
perhaps it's a good time to   consolidate

9340
04:48:50,519 --> 04:48:51,493
consolidate everything in one

9341
04:48:51,493 --> 04:48:51,493
room

9342
04:48:51,493 --> 04:48:51,493
room.

9343
04:48:51,493 --> 04:48:52,822
I was speaking with my staff at

9344
04:48:52,822 --> 04:48:53,050
the

9345
04:48:53,050 --> 04:48:57,590
the break, if you had to pick

9346
04:48:57,590 --> 04:48:57,590
one

9347
04:48:57,590 --> 04:48:59,653
one of these two, we would   prefer

9348
04:48:59,653 --> 04:49:00,378
prefer 19 over 20.

9349
04:49:00,378 --> 04:49:04,289
ideally both, we not both at   some

9350
04:49:04,289 --> 04:49:07,689
some point but if it's one or

9351
04:49:07,689 --> 04:49:07,689
the

9352
04:49:07,689 --> 04:49:09,194
the other, the records arm is

9353
04:49:09,194 --> 04:49:09,194
the

9354
04:49:09,194 --> 04:49:09,461
the preference.

9355
04:49:09,461 --> 04:49:14,834
>> I don't understand if it's

9356
04:49:14,834 --> 04:49:14,834
reserve

9357
04:49:14,834 --> 04:49:15,849
reserve funded, ryoal would   require

9358
04:49:15,849 --> 04:49:16,101
require council?

9359
04:49:16,101 --> 04:49:19,754
you are talking about pulling

9360
04:49:19,754 --> 04:49:19,754
from

9361
04:49:19,754 --> 04:49:20,002
from reserves.

9362
04:49:20,002 --> 04:49:20,847
am I missing something?

9363
04:49:20,847 --> 04:49:21,914
why would you do that?

9364
04:49:21,914 --> 04:49:27,450
>> as I alluded to in the budget

9365
04:49:27,450 --> 04:49:27,699
overview

9366
04:49:27,699 --> 04:49:28,565
overview, reserves are important

9367
04:49:28,565 --> 04:49:28,829
for

9368
04:49:28,829 --> 04:49:29,583
for us to have.

9369
04:49:29,583 --> 04:49:31,933
some of these are smaller   dollars

9370
04:49:31,933 --> 04:49:33,409
dollars but we have to think   about

9371
04:49:33,409 --> 04:49:33,910
about long-term planning.

9372
04:49:33,910 --> 04:49:36,698
for example, if this comes from

9373
04:49:36,698 --> 04:49:37,061
capital

9374
04:49:37,061 --> 04:49:38,755
capital, we have the ems funding

9375
04:49:38,755 --> 04:49:39,354
model

9376
04:49:39,354 --> 04:49:40,821
model that is borrowing from our

9377
04:49:40,821 --> 04:49:41,072
capital

9378
04:49:41,072 --> 04:49:42,589
capital, not just ems capital

9379
04:49:42,589 --> 04:49:42,589
but

9380
04:49:42,589 --> 04:49:44,114
but for wing from capital so we

9381
04:49:44,114 --> 04:49:44,352
don't

9382
04:49:44,352 --> 04:49:45,108
don't take on that.

9383
04:49:45,108 --> 04:49:47,424
it's just an exercise of making

9384
04:49:47,424 --> 04:49:47,988
sure

9385
04:49:47,988 --> 04:49:49,012
sure we don't deplete reserves

9386
04:49:49,012 --> 04:49:49,263
as

9387
04:49:49,263 --> 04:49:51,014
as well and we have to be smart

9388
04:49:51,014 --> 04:49:51,264
about

9389
04:49:51,264 --> 04:49:52,521
about how much reserves we use

9390
04:49:52,521 --> 04:49:52,770
in

9391
04:49:52,770 --> 04:49:54,520
in the year so when we really

9392
04:49:54,520 --> 04:49:54,520
needed

9393
04:49:54,520 --> 04:49:55,559
needed or for one-time things

9394
04:49:55,559 --> 04:49:55,779
--   if

9395
04:49:55,779 --> 04:49:57,036
if the province decides to kick

9396
04:49:57,036 --> 04:49:57,287
in

9397
04:49:57,287 --> 04:49:58,513
in money for something, we have

9398
04:49:58,513 --> 04:49:58,749
to

9399
04:49:58,749 --> 04:50:00,504
to have our share as well.

9400
04:50:00,504 --> 04:50:02,443
just thinking long term not   depleting

9401
04:50:02,443 --> 04:50:03,449
depleting reserves for the   future

9402
04:50:03,449 --> 04:50:03,449
future.

9403
04:50:03,449 --> 04:50:06,630
>> anyone else?

9404
04:50:06,630 --> 04:50:08,513
councilor mcnamara.

9405
04:50:08,513 --> 04:50:21,999
>> getting back to the standard

9406
04:50:21,999 --> 04:50:22,232
and

9407
04:50:22,232 --> 04:50:23,791
and poor -- getting the rating

9408
04:50:23,791 --> 04:50:24,043
,   I

9409
04:50:24,043 --> 04:50:25,919
I know we don't borrow a lot of

9410
04:50:25,919 --> 04:50:26,138
money

9411
04:50:26,138 --> 04:50:27,652
money but if we were to borrow

9412
04:50:27,652 --> 04:50:27,902
money

9413
04:50:27,902 --> 04:50:30,993
money, is it also utilized to

9414
04:50:30,993 --> 04:50:31,240
be   able

9415
04:50:31,240 --> 04:50:32,479
able to get favoured interest

9416
04:50:32,479 --> 04:50:32,479
rates

9417
04:50:32,479 --> 04:50:32,978
rates on loans?

9418
04:50:32,978 --> 04:50:39,001
>> in my exercise that I took

9419
04:50:39,001 --> 04:50:39,001
earlier

9420
04:50:39,001 --> 04:50:40,257
earlier this year to prepare the

9421
04:50:40,257 --> 04:50:40,505
council

9422
04:50:40,505 --> 04:50:41,755
council for what I have   understood

9423
04:50:41,755 --> 04:50:43,004
understood from infrastructure

9424
04:50:43,004 --> 04:50:44,223
ontario

9425
04:50:44,223 --> 04:50:45,877
ontario, which is typically   where

9426
04:50:45,877 --> 04:50:46,633
where municipalities borrow from

9427
04:50:46,633 --> 04:50:46,633
  from,

9428
04:50:46,633 --> 04:50:48,133
from, it does not factor into

9429
04:50:48,133 --> 04:50:48,133
the

9430
04:50:48,133 --> 04:50:50,307
the rate, which is why it was

9431
04:50:50,307 --> 04:50:50,775
up   for

9432
04:50:50,775 --> 04:50:51,875
for debate, the cost-benefit   analysis

9433
04:50:51,875 --> 04:50:51,875
analysis.

9434
04:50:51,875 --> 04:50:54,329
but it does really help with   vendors

9435
04:50:54,329 --> 04:50:54,329
vendors.

9436
04:50:54,329 --> 04:50:56,642
know when every screens us or

9437
04:50:56,642 --> 04:50:56,642
anything

9438
04:50:56,642 --> 04:50:57,642
anything like that, they   understand

9439
04:50:57,642 --> 04:50:58,667
understand we have a aaa rating

9440
04:50:58,667 --> 04:50:58,890
so

9441
04:50:58,890 --> 04:51:00,717
so it simpler from an   administrative

9442
04:51:00,717 --> 04:51:00,969
administrative position.

9443
04:51:00,969 --> 04:51:00,969


9444
04:51:00,969 --> 04:51:00,969


9445
04:51:00,969 --> 04:51:00,969


9446
04:51:00,969 --> 04:51:05,631
>> so realistically, it wouldn't

9447
04:51:05,631 --> 04:51:05,868
affect

9448
04:51:05,868 --> 04:51:07,370
affect us if we have to borrow

9449
04:51:07,370 --> 04:51:07,619
money

9450
04:51:07,619 --> 04:51:09,737
money through infrastructure   ontario

9451
04:51:09,737 --> 04:51:10,509
ontario for major projects?

9452
04:51:10,509 --> 04:51:14,049
>> in february, when I checked

9453
04:51:14,049 --> 04:51:14,298
,   it

9454
04:51:14,298 --> 04:51:15,539
it did not have an effect.

9455
04:51:15,539 --> 04:51:18,293
>> okay then that is my decision

9456
04:51:18,293 --> 04:51:18,293
  decision.

9457
04:51:18,293 --> 04:51:18,293
  decision.

9458
04:51:18,293 --> 04:51:20,760
I certainly wouldn't want to   bring

9459
04:51:20,760 --> 04:51:21,295
bring it back.

9460
04:51:21,295 --> 04:51:26,324
but also, as councilor prue and

9461
04:51:26,324 --> 04:51:26,574
certainly

9462
04:51:26,574 --> 04:51:28,790
certainly councilor waldstedt,

9463
04:51:28,790 --> 04:51:29,976
I   do

9464
04:51:29,976 --> 04:51:31,434
do support what they are saying

9465
04:51:31,434 --> 04:51:31,683
as

9466
04:51:31,683 --> 04:51:33,421
as well as I think it's a matter

9467
04:51:33,421 --> 04:51:33,671
of

9468
04:51:33,671 --> 04:51:34,628
of principle moving forward and

9469
04:51:34,628 --> 04:51:34,890
again

9470
04:51:34,890 --> 04:51:37,830
again the 2.5% is on the   salaries

9471
04:51:37,830 --> 04:51:39,740
salaries, I would say -- I would

9472
04:51:39,740 --> 04:51:39,977
support

9473
04:51:39,977 --> 04:51:42,970
support what councilor waldstedt

9474
04:51:42,970 --> 04:51:43,253
has

9475
04:51:43,253 --> 04:51:43,782
has brought forward.

9476
04:51:43,782 --> 04:51:46,819
>> thank you.

9477
04:51:46,819 --> 04:51:47,091
councilor waldstedt.

9478
04:51:47,091 --> 04:51:47,425
>> thank you.

9479
04:51:47,425 --> 04:51:52,197
I'm just wondering how many   silence

9480
04:51:52,197 --> 04:51:53,336
silence people are in opposition

9481
04:51:53,336 --> 04:51:53,587
to

9482
04:51:53,587 --> 04:51:54,356
to the wage increase?

9483
04:51:54,356 --> 04:51:57,167
what procedure -- is there a   motion

9484
04:51:57,167 --> 04:51:58,368
motion on the floor now?

9485
04:51:58,368 --> 04:51:58,928
>> not yet.

9486
04:51:58,928 --> 04:52:04,110
>> because I know councilor   bondy

9487
04:52:04,110 --> 04:52:05,374
bondy mentioned she had a motion

9488
04:52:05,374 --> 04:52:05,626
but

9489
04:52:05,626 --> 04:52:07,126
but I would make a motion that

9490
04:52:07,126 --> 04:52:07,387
we

9491
04:52:07,387 --> 04:52:09,597
we would deal with the wage   salaries

9492
04:52:09,597 --> 04:52:10,337
salaries and indemnity's   increase

9493
04:52:10,337 --> 04:52:11,121
increase for council separately

9494
04:52:11,121 --> 04:52:11,121
.

9495
04:52:11,121 --> 04:52:12,867
if that is proper.

9496
04:52:12,867 --> 04:52:17,950
>> we will do it the weight we

9497
04:52:17,950 --> 04:52:18,417
need

9498
04:52:18,417 --> 04:52:19,183
need to do it.

9499
04:52:19,183 --> 04:52:19,735
thank you for that's.

9500
04:52:19,735 --> 04:52:25,190
we will look to you for -- as

9501
04:52:25,190 --> 04:52:25,441
a   mover

9502
04:52:25,441 --> 04:52:25,441
mover.

9503
04:52:25,441 --> 04:52:25,737
anyone else?

9504
04:52:25,737 --> 04:52:27,629
in regards to this report?

9505
04:52:27,629 --> 04:52:27,629
okay.

9506
04:52:27,629 --> 04:52:34,348
seeing none, I will look to   madame

9507
04:52:34,348 --> 04:52:34,599
madame clerk.

9508
04:52:34,599 --> 04:52:43,526
we will just wait for the clerk

9509
04:52:43,526 --> 04:52:43,526
  clerk's

9510
04:52:43,526 --> 04:52:47,695
clerk's department to list the

9511
04:52:47,695 --> 04:52:47,915
motion

9512
04:52:47,915 --> 04:52:47,915
motion.

9513
04:52:47,915 --> 04:52:55,515
>> thank you tag team.

9514
04:52:55,515 --> 04:53:01,828
thank you, team.

9515
04:53:01,828 --> 04:53:15,386


9516
04:53:15,386 --> 04:53:15,386


9517
04:53:15,386 --> 04:53:15,386


9518
04:53:15,386 --> 04:54:14,931
>> the motion from councilor

9519
04:54:14,931 --> 04:54:14,931
waldstedt

9520
04:54:14,931 --> 04:54:17,876
waldstedt is in the revised   screen

9521
04:54:17,876 --> 04:54:17,876
screen.

9522
04:54:17,876 --> 04:54:25,097
>> I will read the motion from

9523
04:54:25,097 --> 04:54:25,347
councilor

9524
04:54:25,347 --> 04:54:26,399
councilor waldstedt, just to   make

9525
04:54:26,399 --> 04:54:27,919
make sure you are good with the

9526
04:54:27,919 --> 04:54:28,169
boarding

9527
04:54:28,169 --> 04:54:28,169
boarding.

9528
04:54:28,169 --> 04:54:30,389
that is that essex county   council

9529
04:54:30,389 --> 04:54:31,401
council reduce proposed line   item

9530
04:54:31,401 --> 04:54:37,064
item 105-60-1101 of the general

9531
04:54:37,064 --> 04:54:37,091
  general government

9532
04:54:37,091 --> 04:54:37,555
general government council   services

9533
04:54:37,555 --> 04:54:38,772
services budget to the 2025   level

9534
04:54:38,772 --> 04:54:40,776
level of $518,100.

9535
04:54:40,776 --> 04:54:49,515
that is moved by councilor   waldstedt

9536
04:54:49,515 --> 04:54:49,515
waldstedt.

9537
04:54:49,515 --> 04:54:53,706
>> that takes care of my concern

9538
04:54:53,706 --> 04:54:53,943
and

9539
04:54:53,943 --> 04:54:55,209
and others that I've heard from

9540
04:54:55,209 --> 04:54:55,209
.

9541
04:54:55,209 --> 04:54:58,015
>> looking for a seconder to the

9542
04:54:58,015 --> 04:54:58,298
motion

9543
04:54:58,298 --> 04:54:58,298
motion.

9544
04:54:58,298 --> 04:55:03,182
that is moved by councilor   mcnamara

9545
04:55:03,182 --> 04:55:03,182
mcnamara.

9546
04:55:03,182 --> 04:55:03,855
question, councilor bondy?

9547
04:55:03,855 --> 04:55:06,965
3 yes, thank you.

9548
04:55:06,965 --> 04:55:08,423
it's an election year.

9549
04:55:08,423 --> 04:55:09,383
we all know it.

9550
04:55:09,383 --> 04:55:10,884
that's why we are talking about

9551
04:55:10,884 --> 04:55:11,135
this

9552
04:55:11,135 --> 04:55:11,639
this right now.

9553
04:55:11,639 --> 04:55:14,125
what does this mean going   forward

9554
04:55:14,125 --> 04:55:14,125
forward?

9555
04:55:14,125 --> 04:55:16,445
are we four years behind again

9556
04:55:16,445 --> 04:55:16,445
?

9557
04:55:16,445 --> 04:55:21,792
what happened was we reviewed

9558
04:55:21,792 --> 04:55:21,792
our

9559
04:55:21,792 --> 04:55:23,283
our wages and we were supposed

9560
04:55:23,283 --> 04:55:23,738
to

9561
04:55:23,738 --> 04:55:26,197
to stay in line with our non  nonunion

9562
04:55:26,197 --> 04:55:26,476
nonunion comparators.

9563
04:55:26,476 --> 04:55:28,565
if we don't support this, does

9564
04:55:28,565 --> 04:55:29,031
this

9565
04:55:29,031 --> 04:55:30,291
this mean we are not supporting

9566
04:55:30,291 --> 04:55:30,545
it

9567
04:55:30,545 --> 04:55:31,529
it for the four years?

9568
04:55:31,529 --> 04:55:34,778
because then we are going to get

9569
04:55:34,778 --> 04:55:35,027
back

9570
04:55:35,027 --> 04:55:36,277
back to where we have been.

9571
04:55:36,277 --> 04:55:39,407
so I just want to understand,

9572
04:55:39,407 --> 04:55:39,752
we   know

9573
04:55:39,752 --> 04:55:41,061
know it's an election year.

9574
04:55:41,061 --> 04:55:43,379
everyone's got to do their   election

9575
04:55:43,379 --> 04:55:43,630
election things.

9576
04:55:43,630 --> 04:55:45,242
but what does this mean going

9577
04:55:45,242 --> 04:55:45,242
forward

9578
04:55:45,242 --> 04:55:45,242
forward?

9579
04:55:45,242 --> 04:55:51,773
I want to know what this means

9580
04:55:51,773 --> 04:55:52,022
for

9581
04:55:52,022 --> 04:55:53,236
for the new term of council.

9582
04:55:53,236 --> 04:55:54,797
are they behind or did they come

9583
04:55:54,797 --> 04:55:55,046
back

9584
04:55:55,046 --> 04:55:55,295
back in?

9585
04:55:55,295 --> 04:55:56,608
do they stay a cycle out?

9586
04:55:56,608 --> 04:56:01,360
>> I do remember the   conversation

9587
04:56:01,360 --> 04:56:02,836
conversation at the time and I

9588
04:56:02,836 --> 04:56:03,084
believe

9589
04:56:03,084 --> 04:56:04,606
believe we have it in a policy

9590
04:56:04,606 --> 04:56:04,858
on

9591
04:56:04,858 --> 04:56:08,423
on exactly how often we would

9592
04:56:08,423 --> 04:56:08,672
do   the

9593
04:56:08,672 --> 04:56:09,924
the market salary review for   council

9594
04:56:09,924 --> 04:56:09,924
council.

9595
04:56:09,924 --> 04:56:11,988
I believe it was every term of

9596
04:56:11,988 --> 04:56:12,206
council

9597
04:56:12,206 --> 04:56:12,206
council.

9598
04:56:12,206 --> 04:56:13,520
anyone please correct me if I'm

9599
04:56:13,520 --> 04:56:13,773
wrong

9600
04:56:13,773 --> 04:56:13,773
wrong.

9601
04:56:13,773 --> 04:56:16,343
so that would still occur   because

9602
04:56:16,343 --> 04:56:17,522
because that was approved   already

9603
04:56:17,522 --> 04:56:18,965
already, that every term of   council

9604
04:56:18,965 --> 04:56:20,215
council we would do that review

9605
04:56:20,215 --> 04:56:20,463
again

9606
04:56:20,463 --> 04:56:20,463
again.

9607
04:56:20,463 --> 04:56:23,765
potentially, yes, like any other

9608
04:56:23,765 --> 04:56:24,018
salary

9609
04:56:24,018 --> 04:56:26,789
salary, if we don't do it on an

9610
04:56:26,789 --> 04:56:27,040
annual

9611
04:56:27,040 --> 04:56:28,543
annual basis, it may be a bigger

9612
04:56:28,543 --> 04:56:28,777
jump

9613
04:56:28,777 --> 04:56:30,907
jump all at once but that is   already

9614
04:56:30,907 --> 04:56:32,210
already factored in that we   would

9615
04:56:32,210 --> 04:56:33,482
would have that review every   term

9616
04:56:33,482 --> 04:56:33,951
term of council.

9617
04:56:33,951 --> 04:56:38,547
>> any other questions in   regards

9618
04:56:38,547 --> 04:56:39,296
regards to the motion?

9619
04:56:39,296 --> 04:56:42,557
I will ask you to vote   electronically

9620
04:56:42,557 --> 04:56:42,557
electronically.

9621
04:56:42,557 --> 04:56:45,128
we are pausing.

9622
04:56:45,128 --> 04:57:00,924
councilor waldstedt?

9623
04:57:00,924 --> 04:57:08,916
>> in order to make sure we have

9624
04:57:08,916 --> 04:57:09,167
the

9625
04:57:09,167 --> 04:57:10,438
the correct dollar figure in   there

9626
04:57:10,438 --> 04:57:11,696
there, we're going to remove the

9627
04:57:11,696 --> 04:57:12,367
dollar

9628
04:57:12,367 --> 04:57:13,602
dollar figure and reworded to

9629
04:57:13,602 --> 04:57:13,602
say

9630
04:57:13,602 --> 04:57:14,360
say maintain 2025 pay level?

9631
04:57:14,360 --> 04:57:22,748
>> that was the intent.

9632
04:57:22,748 --> 04:57:38,746
test

9633
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9634
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9635
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9636
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9637
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9638
04:57:38,746 --> 04:57:38,746


9639
04:57:38,746 --> 04:58:02,733
>> again, I will read the   revised

9640
04:58:02,733 --> 04:58:02,733
revised.

9641
04:58:02,733 --> 04:58:03,547
the essex county council reduce

9642
04:58:03,547 --> 04:58:03,785
the

9643
04:58:03,785 --> 04:58:07,433
the proposed line item   105-60-1101

9644
04:58:07,433 --> 04:58:09,251
105-60-1101 of the general   government

9645
04:58:09,251 --> 04:58:10,033
government council services   budget

9646
04:58:10,033 --> 04:58:12,113
budget to maintain the 2025   level

9647
04:58:12,113 --> 04:58:12,113
level.

9648
04:58:12,113 --> 04:58:17,751
councilor waldstedt, just   wanting

9649
04:58:17,751 --> 04:58:18,471
wanting a nod.

9650
04:58:18,471 --> 04:58:18,471
yes.

9651
04:58:18,471 --> 04:58:20,890
and seconder was councilor   mcnamara

9652
04:58:20,890 --> 04:58:20,890
mcnamara.

9653
04:58:20,890 --> 04:58:22,031
and you are good.

9654
04:58:22,031 --> 04:58:24,094
we will ask you to vote   electronically

9655
04:58:24,094 --> 04:58:24,851
electronically for that motion

9656
04:58:24,851 --> 04:58:24,851
.

9657
04:58:24,851 --> 04:58:43,539
and that carries.

9658
04:58:43,539 --> 04:58:52,244
secondary to that, there is a

9659
04:58:52,244 --> 04:58:52,244
recommendation

9660
04:58:52,244 --> 04:58:52,992
recommendation that the   presentation

9661
04:58:52,992 --> 04:58:54,198
presentation for the proposed

9662
04:58:54,198 --> 04:58:54,198
2026

9663
04:58:54,198 --> 04:58:54,933
2026 general government budget

9664
04:58:54,933 --> 04:58:55,185
be

9665
04:58:55,185 --> 04:58:58,027
be received can further that the

9666
04:58:58,027 --> 04:58:59,045
2026

9667
04:58:59,045 --> 04:59:00,033
2026 budget estimates for   general

9668
04:59:00,033 --> 04:59:01,033
general government to be   received

9669
04:59:01,033 --> 04:59:02,449
received or received and   approved

9670
04:59:02,449 --> 04:59:02,951
approved as amended.

9671
04:59:02,951 --> 04:59:04,576
looking for your wishes.

9672
04:59:04,576 --> 04:59:09,195
councilor verbeke.

9673
04:59:09,195 --> 04:59:11,309
>> I would like to move, receive

9674
04:59:11,309 --> 04:59:11,560
and

9675
04:59:11,560 --> 04:59:11,812
and approve.

9676
04:59:11,812 --> 04:59:12,362
>> as amended?

9677
04:59:12,362 --> 04:59:17,770
that is moved by councilor   verbeke

9678
04:59:17,770 --> 04:59:17,770
verbeke.

9679
04:59:17,770 --> 04:59:18,391
looking for seconder.

9680
04:59:18,391 --> 04:59:18,765
councilor gibb.

9681
04:59:18,765 --> 04:59:20,460
comments or questions?

9682
04:59:20,460 --> 04:59:24,368
we will ask you to vote   electronically

9683
04:59:24,368 --> 04:59:24,634
electronically, please.

9684
04:59:24,634 --> 04:59:42,522
that is carried.

9685
04:59:42,522 --> 04:59:49,853
next we have external   commitments

9686
04:59:49,853 --> 04:59:49,853
commitments.

9687
04:59:49,853 --> 04:59:51,019
back to you again, melissa.

9688
04:59:51,019 --> 04:59:55,080
>> this final sections covers

9689
04:59:55,080 --> 04:59:55,080
the

9690
04:59:55,080 --> 04:59:56,246
the county's external   commitments

9691
04:59:56,246 --> 04:59:57,360
commitments, both legislative

9692
04:59:57,360 --> 04:59:57,360
and

9693
04:59:57,360 --> 04:59:58,706
and discretionary, and how these

9694
04:59:58,706 --> 04:59:58,959
investments

9695
04:59:58,959 --> 05:00:00,280
investments support our   residents

9696
05:00:00,280 --> 05:00:01,050
residents and regional partners

9697
05:00:01,050 --> 05:00:01,050
.

9698
05:00:01,050 --> 05:00:03,343
our goal is to manage these   obligations

9699
05:00:03,343 --> 05:00:04,092
obligations responsibly, he   partnership

9700
05:00:04,092 --> 05:00:05,109
partnership strong and make sure

9701
05:00:05,109 --> 05:00:05,346
we're

9702
05:00:05,346 --> 05:00:07,642
we're reading community needs

9703
05:00:07,642 --> 05:00:07,642
effectively

9704
05:00:07,642 --> 05:00:07,642
effectively.

9705
05:00:07,642 --> 05:00:10,720
many of the 2026 figures from

9706
05:00:10,720 --> 05:00:10,720
the

9707
05:00:10,720 --> 05:00:12,399
the city of windsor, who   administer

9708
05:00:12,399 --> 05:00:13,369
administer some of these   programs

9709
05:00:13,369 --> 05:00:13,369
programs.

9710
05:00:13,369 --> 05:00:15,602
while the city won't finalize

9711
05:00:15,602 --> 05:00:15,602
its

9712
05:00:15,602 --> 05:00:16,609
its budget until late january,

9713
05:00:16,609 --> 05:00:16,984
we've

9714
05:00:16,984 --> 05:00:18,418
we've used the most current   information

9715
05:00:18,418 --> 05:00:19,171
information to guide projections

9716
05:00:19,171 --> 05:00:19,171
  projections.

9717
05:00:19,171 --> 05:00:19,171
  projections.

9718
05:00:19,171 --> 05:00:22,926
legislative commitments covers

9719
05:00:22,926 --> 05:00:23,176
services

9720
05:00:23,176 --> 05:00:24,534
services we are required to fund

9721
05:00:24,534 --> 05:00:24,534
  fund,

9722
05:00:24,534 --> 05:00:25,632
fund, public health, property

9723
05:00:25,632 --> 05:00:25,632
assessment

9724
05:00:25,632 --> 05:00:27,323
assessment, social services and

9725
05:00:27,323 --> 05:00:27,997
social

9726
05:00:27,997 --> 05:00:28,249
social housing.

9727
05:00:28,249 --> 05:00:30,047
health unit costs are expected

9728
05:00:30,047 --> 05:00:30,296
to

9729
05:00:30,296 --> 05:00:33,296
to rise just over 1% for 2026

9730
05:00:33,296 --> 05:00:33,296
and

9731
05:00:33,296 --> 05:00:34,447
and impact property assessment

9732
05:00:34,447 --> 05:00:34,793
cost

9733
05:00:34,793 --> 05:00:35,767
cost are anticipated to increase

9734
05:00:35,767 --> 05:00:36,017
by

9735
05:00:36,017 --> 05:00:36,284
by 3.7%.

9736
05:00:36,284 --> 05:00:39,731
social services and social   housing

9737
05:00:39,731 --> 05:00:41,162
housing operations are higher

9738
05:00:41,162 --> 05:00:41,162
due

9739
05:00:41,162 --> 05:00:42,164
due to contractual wage   increases

9740
05:00:42,164 --> 05:00:43,537
increases for city staff and   changes

9741
05:00:43,537 --> 05:00:44,521
changes to the child care   administrative

9742
05:00:44,521 --> 05:00:45,006
administrative funding formula

9743
05:00:45,006 --> 05:00:45,006
.

9744
05:00:45,006 --> 05:00:48,018
windsor-essex community housing

9745
05:00:48,018 --> 05:00:48,270
corporation

9746
05:00:48,270 --> 05:00:49,229
corporation has also requested

9747
05:00:49,229 --> 05:00:49,465
additional

9748
05:00:49,465 --> 05:00:51,241
additional operating funds so

9749
05:00:51,241 --> 05:00:51,241
this

9750
05:00:51,241 --> 05:00:52,216
this budgetthis includes budget includes

9751
05:00:52,216 --> 05:00:52,664
ourare   anticipated

9752
05:00:52,664 --> 05:00:52,859
anticipated   anticipated

9753
05:00:52,859 --> 05:00:53,109
anticipated  share with further   adjustments dependency approvals

9754
05:00:53,109 --> 05:00:53,109
adjustments dependency approvals

9755
05:00:53,109 --> 05:00:53,829
share with further   adjustments

9756
05:00:53,829 --> 05:00:54,552
adjustments dependent on cit  approvals.

9757
05:00:54,552 --> 05:00:54,552
adjustments dependent on cit  approvals.

9758
05:00:54,552 --> 05:00:54,803
approval

9759
05:00:54,803 --> 05:00:54,803
approval.

9760
05:00:54,803 --> 05:00:58,227
so for the social housing   capital renewal, this

9761
05:00:58,227 --> 05:01:02,040
capital renewal, this program

9762
05:01:02,040 --> 05:01:02,089
is   administered

9763
05:01:02,089 --> 05:01:03,094
administered by the   windsor-essex

9764
05:01:03,094 --> 05:01:04,082
windsor-essex community housing   corporation

9765
05:01:04,082 --> 05:01:04,190
corporation, it's an important

9766
05:01:04,190 --> 05:01:04,296
initiative that

9767
05:01:04,296 --> 05:01:07,247
initiative that utilizes county   funding

9768
05:01:07,247 --> 05:01:08,735
funding to improve, modernize

9769
05:01:08,735 --> 05:01:08,784
and maintain social housing
Properties

9770
05:01:08,784 --> 05:01:08,784
and maintain social housing
Properties

9771
05:01:08,784 --> 05:01:10,392
properties throughout essex   windsor

9772
05:01:10,392 --> 05:01:11,278
windsor.  This problem

9773
05:01:11,278 --> 05:01:14,462
this problem addresses energy   efficiency

9774
05:01:14,462 --> 05:01:15,864
efficiency and upgrade safety

9775
05:01:15,864 --> 05:01:15,864
and

9776
05:01:15,864 --> 05:01:16,643
and excessive building features

9777
05:01:16,643 --> 05:01:16,861
ensuring

9778
05:01:16,861 --> 05:01:17,557
ensuring that residents live in   safe, healthy and

9779
05:01:17,557 --> 05:01:17,667
safe, healthy and sustainable   environments

9780
05:01:17,667 --> 05:01:20,734
environments so this program   supports a ten-year

9781
05:01:20,734 --> 05:01:20,840
supports a ten-year social   housing plan

9782
05:01:20,840 --> 05:01:20,840
housing plan.

9783
05:01:20,840 --> 05:01:24,576
while the 2025 funding requests   were

9784
05:01:24,576 --> 05:01:28,508
were lower, the significant   projects are scheduled

9785
05:01:28,508 --> 05:01:28,632
projects are scheduled from 2026   to

9786
05:01:28,632 --> 05:01:30,773
to 2028 which rely heavily on

9787
05:01:30,773 --> 05:01:30,773
reserves

9788
05:01:30,773 --> 05:01:30,773
reserves.

9789
05:01:30,773 --> 05:01:34,285
to prepare, we are continuing

9790
05:01:34,285 --> 05:01:34,334
to   contribute an additional

9791
05:01:34,334 --> 05:01:36,952
contribute an additional 200,000   to the social

9792
05:01:36,952 --> 05:01:37,059
to the social housing capital   reserve

9793
05:01:37,059 --> 05:01:38,918
reserve annually to build   capacity in

9794
05:01:38,918 --> 05:01:40,505
capacity in that program.

9795
05:01:40,505 --> 05:01:44,024
when we look at projective   reserve

9796
05:01:44,024 --> 05:01:45,017
reserve balances, social housing

9797
05:01:45,017 --> 05:01:45,516
capital reserve

9798
05:01:45,516 --> 05:01:45,731
capital reserve is part of the

9799
05:01:45,731 --> 05:01:45,841
overall capital reserve

9800
05:01:45,841 --> 05:01:46,717
overall capital reserve balance   and

9801
05:01:46,717 --> 05:01:50,141
and are expected reserve for   this

9802
05:01:50,141 --> 05:01:50,141
this

9803
05:01:50,141 --> 05:01:50,141
this

9804
05:01:50,141 --> 05:01:50,141
this

9805
05:01:50,141 --> 05:01:51,021
one is 7.8 million at the   end

9806
05:01:51,021 --> 05:01:54,072
end of 2025 with unanticipated

9807
05:01:54,072 --> 05:01:54,803
spend

9808
05:01:54,803 --> 05:01:56,787
spend of 5.7 million in 2026.

9809
05:01:56,787 --> 05:01:59,539
and 7.7 million in 2027.

9810
05:01:59,539 --> 05:02:03,090
so doing the math, this reserve

9811
05:02:03,090 --> 05:02:03,198
will be deleted of all the

9812
05:02:03,198 --> 05:02:03,319
will be deleted of all the   projects move

9813
05:02:03,319 --> 05:02:04,295
projects move forward however,   we

9814
05:02:04,295 --> 05:02:07,102
we do have a plan to replenish

9815
05:02:07,102 --> 05:02:07,427
in

9816
05:02:07,427 --> 05:02:08,038
in years where costs are not   expected to be

9817
05:02:08,038 --> 05:02:08,145
expected to be so high.

9818
05:02:08,145 --> 05:02:13,165
these are discretionary   obligations which include
Investments

9819
05:02:13,165 --> 05:02:13,165
these are discretionary   obligations which include
Investments

9820
05:02:13,165 --> 05:02:15,729
investments or -- windsor-essex

9821
05:02:15,729 --> 05:02:17,285
so funding

9822
05:02:17,285 --> 05:02:18,042
so funding is remaining at the   same level as previous

9823
05:02:18,042 --> 05:02:21,540
same level as previous years,   same with

9824
05:02:21,540 --> 05:02:21,878
same with tourism windsor-essex

9825
05:02:21,878 --> 05:02:21,878
.

9826
05:02:21,878 --> 05:02:24,058
there is no increase in funding

9827
05:02:24,058 --> 05:02:24,170
.  The community safety and

9828
05:02:24,170 --> 05:02:24,229
the community safety and   well-being

9829
05:02:24,229 --> 05:02:27,019
well-being plan, a slight   increase and

9830
05:02:27,019 --> 05:02:29,324
increase and that's for the   contractual wage increases

9831
05:02:29,324 --> 05:02:29,431
contractual wage increases for   the city

9832
05:02:29,431 --> 05:02:31,100
the city staff that oversee this

9833
05:02:31,100 --> 05:02:32,581
program

9834
05:02:32,581 --> 05:02:33,932
program.  There's also the

9835
05:02:33,932 --> 05:02:34,041
there's also the tax appeals for   lower

9836
05:02:34,041 --> 05:02:35,526
lower tiers.

9837
05:02:35,526 --> 05:02:38,100
these funds to support tax   appeals services for

9838
05:02:38,100 --> 05:02:38,208
appeals services for local means

9839
05:02:38,208 --> 05:02:39,681
apologies

9840
05:02:39,681 --> 05:02:41,265
apologies and they're critical   to

9841
05:02:41,265 --> 05:02:42,924
to ensure fair taxation so   there's an increase in this

9842
05:02:42,924 --> 05:02:44,410
there's an increase in this line

9843
05:02:44,410 --> 05:02:45,541
as last year

9844
05:02:45,541 --> 05:02:46,529
as last year's budget decreased   it

9845
05:02:46,529 --> 05:02:47,186
it by 90,000 but we are trending

9846
05:02:47,186 --> 05:02:47,291
if it can be

9847
05:02:47,291 --> 05:02:51,126
if it can be higher that --   found

9848
05:02:51,126 --> 05:02:52,325
found out this year so we want   to

9849
05:02:52,325 --> 05:02:52,542
to bring a backup the necessary

9850
05:02:52,542 --> 05:02:52,602
levels

9851
05:02:52,602 --> 05:02:52,602
levels.

9852
05:02:52,602 --> 05:02:55,066
and then this year's hospital   contribution

9853
05:02:55,066 --> 05:02:58,407
contribution sees an increase

9854
05:02:58,407 --> 05:02:58,569
of   720,000 of levy

9855
05:02:58,569 --> 05:03:01,693
720,000 of levy dollars bringing

9856
05:03:01,693 --> 05:03:01,975
the total annual

9857
05:03:01,975 --> 05:03:03,825
the total annual funding to   7.76 million.

9858
05:03:03,825 --> 05:03:03,825
the total annual funding to   7.76 million.

9859
05:03:03,825 --> 05:03:06,841
we are in ongoing discussions

9860
05:03:06,841 --> 05:03:06,890
with the

9861
05:03:06,890 --> 05:03:08,045
with the hospital regarding   timing

9862
05:03:08,045 --> 05:03:08,852
timing of payment, however,   nothing has been confirmed to

9863
05:03:08,852 --> 05:03:08,911
nothing has been confirmed to

9864
05:03:08,911 --> 05:03:08,911
date

9865
05:03:08,911 --> 05:03:08,911
date.

9866
05:03:08,911 --> 05:03:12,358
should council wish to reduce   additional funding

9867
05:03:12,358 --> 05:03:12,464
additional funding emotion would   be

9868
05:03:12,464 --> 05:03:15,196
be required as it is built into   the proposed budget

9869
05:03:15,196 --> 05:03:15,196
the proposed budget.

9870
05:03:15,196 --> 05:03:18,381
and lastly we have the erie   shores

9871
05:03:18,381 --> 05:03:21,104
shores health care so there --

9872
05:03:21,104 --> 05:03:21,396
this

9873
05:03:21,396 --> 05:03:22,096
this is a long term commitment

9874
05:03:22,096 --> 05:03:22,154
with

9875
05:03:22,154 --> 05:03:25,043
with $200,000 allocated and this

9876
05:03:25,043 --> 05:03:25,208
is

9877
05:03:25,208 --> 05:03:25,566
is year three of a 10-year   commitment

9878
05:03:25,566 --> 05:03:25,566
commitment.

9879
05:03:25,566 --> 05:03:30,343
without I'm happy to take any

9880
05:03:30,343 --> 05:03:30,343
questions

9881
05:03:30,343 --> 05:03:32,905
questions.  >> thank you melissa

9882
05:03:32,905 --> 05:03:32,905
>> thank you melissa.

9883
05:03:32,905 --> 05:03:34,760
let's start with you councillor   mcnamara

9884
05:03:34,760 --> 05:03:38,491
mcnamara.  >> I

9885
05:03:38,491 --> 05:03:39,903
>> I would propose that on the

9886
05:03:39,903 --> 05:03:40,118
hospital allocation

9887
05:03:40,118 --> 05:03:40,731
hospital allocation, the extra

9888
05:03:40,731 --> 05:03:40,891
720,000 this

9889
05:03:40,891 --> 05:03:45,046
720,000 this year be deferred to   help

9890
05:03:45,046 --> 05:03:45,265
help offset some of the costs on   the

9891
05:03:45,265 --> 05:03:48,768
the augment that I've talked   about with ens

9892
05:03:48,768 --> 05:03:52,162
about with ens and others so I   would propose that

9893
05:03:52,162 --> 05:03:52,269
would propose that at the proper

9894
05:03:52,269 --> 05:03:53,744
time

9895
05:03:53,744 --> 05:04:00,440
time as a motion.  >> so you're talking that it
Remain

9896
05:04:00,440 --> 05:04:00,440
time as a motion.  >> so you're talking that it
Remain

9897
05:04:00,440 --> 05:04:03,724
remain at the 2025 budget number   of

9898
05:04:03,724 --> 05:04:06,242
of 7,040,000?

9899
05:04:06,242 --> 05:04:10,013
>> that's correct your guy   maintain

9900
05:04:10,013 --> 05:04:11,776
maintain 7,000,040 in the base   moving

9901
05:04:11,776 --> 05:04:16,700
moving forward and then 720,000,   the additional for

9902
05:04:16,700 --> 05:04:19,938
the additional for 2026b   deferred

9903
05:04:19,938 --> 05:04:23,488
deferred their and move in to   allocate

9904
05:04:23,488 --> 05:04:27,219
allocate some of the costs for   the enhancements

9905
05:04:27,219 --> 05:04:28,789
the enhancements in the various

9906
05:04:28,789 --> 05:04:30,971
positions.
>> okay thank you

9907
05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:30,971
positions.
>> okay thank you

9908
05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:30,971
>> okay thank you.

9909
05:04:30,971 --> 05:04:34,641
any other comments and questions

9910
05:04:34,641 --> 05:04:34,641
  questions?

9911
05:04:34,641 --> 05:04:34,641
  questions?

9912
05:04:34,641 --> 05:04:37,319
councillor akpata.  >> I

9913
05:04:37,319 --> 05:04:40,493
>> I like seeing invest   windsor-essex

9914
05:04:40,493 --> 05:04:41,139
windsor-essex.  I'm glad they

9915
05:04:41,139 --> 05:04:41,247
I'm glad they came.  I was

9916
05:04:41,247 --> 05:04:42,847
I was one of the people who   voted

9917
05:04:42,847 --> 05:04:44,158
voted to change their funding

9918
05:04:44,158 --> 05:04:44,208
allocation and I

9919
05:04:44,208 --> 05:04:48,252
allocation and I hope through   you and the

9920
05:04:48,252 --> 05:04:48,913
you and the office of the   commitments

9921
05:04:48,913 --> 05:04:49,119
commitments they made to us hold   true

9922
05:04:49,119 --> 05:04:52,197
true because they did a great   job in pivoting

9923
05:04:52,197 --> 05:04:53,775
job in pivoting and changing us

9924
05:04:53,775 --> 05:04:54,711
those bringing us what we

9925
05:04:54,711 --> 05:04:54,818
those bringing us what we need.  I want to

9926
05:04:54,818 --> 05:04:55,535
I want to make sure as we go for

9927
05:04:55,535 --> 05:04:57,042
word

9928
05:04:57,042 --> 05:04:57,759
word we don't have to go through   that cycle again

9929
05:04:57,759 --> 05:05:01,969
that cycle again so.

9930
05:05:01,969 --> 05:05:01,969
[inaudible]

9931
05:05:01,969 --> 05:05:05,964
>> council will be able to hold   their

9932
05:05:05,964 --> 05:05:07,569
their feet to the fire because

9933
05:05:07,569 --> 05:05:08,501
they promise they

9934
05:05:08,501 --> 05:05:08,609
they promise they would be here

9935
05:05:08,609 --> 05:05:08,716
four times a

9936
05:05:08,716 --> 05:05:11,453
four times a year and we will   certainly

9937
05:05:11,453 --> 05:05:11,995
certainly let them know if they   were

9938
05:05:11,995 --> 05:05:15,284
were overdue because I do think   that

9939
05:05:15,284 --> 05:05:15,498
that was a scare for them last   year to

9940
05:05:15,498 --> 05:05:18,453
year to think that they would   have

9941
05:05:18,453 --> 05:05:20,092
have to operate at 15% less than   what they had

9942
05:05:20,092 --> 05:05:21,514
what they had expected and so I

9943
05:05:21,514 --> 05:05:24,572
think I'm of the

9944
05:05:24,572 --> 05:05:26,931
think I'm of the opinion that

9945
05:05:26,931 --> 05:05:26,981
councils had a

9946
05:05:26,981 --> 05:05:28,573
councils had a very strong   message

9947
05:05:28,573 --> 05:05:32,471
message and also with gordon   moore

9948
05:05:32,471 --> 05:05:32,688
moore at the helm, he   understands how

9949
05:05:32,688 --> 05:05:36,079
understands how counsel operates   and

9950
05:05:36,079 --> 05:05:36,731
and knows that people of our and   I

9951
05:05:36,731 --> 05:05:38,770
I believe they will hold true

9952
05:05:38,770 --> 05:05:38,770
but

9953
05:05:38,770 --> 05:05:40,891
but myself and the cao will make   sure that

9954
05:05:40,891 --> 05:05:42,531
sure that if there seems to be a

9955
05:05:42,531 --> 05:05:44,018
slip

9956
05:05:44,018 --> 05:05:45,051
slip, we will remind them.

9957
05:05:45,051 --> 05:05:51,063
councillor prue, was your hand   up

9958
05:05:51,063 --> 05:05:51,063
up?

9959
05:05:51,063 --> 05:05:54,257
>> no I didn't know whether the   motion

9960
05:05:54,257 --> 05:05:55,015
motion was made I was just going

9961
05:05:55,015 --> 05:05:55,071
to

9962
05:05:55,071 --> 05:05:58,297
to second it.  >> I wanted to have

9963
05:05:58,297 --> 05:05:58,405
>> I wanted to have some   conversations and I

9964
05:05:58,405 --> 05:05:58,516
conversations and I will come   back

9965
05:05:58,516 --> 05:06:01,244
back to you councillor mcnamara

9966
05:06:01,244 --> 05:06:01,696
for that.

9967
05:06:01,696 --> 05:06:01,696
for that.

9968
05:06:01,696 --> 05:06:04,644
anyone else to comment on the   external commitments

9969
05:06:04,644 --> 05:06:04,644
external commitments?

9970
05:06:04,644 --> 05:06:10,822
in that case, then I'm coming

9971
05:06:10,822 --> 05:06:10,822
back

9972
05:06:10,822 --> 05:06:12,523
back to you councillor mcnamara,   I

9973
05:06:12,523 --> 05:06:20,303
I believe we have the wording   just about

9974
05:06:20,303 --> 05:06:21,778
just about ready.

9975
05:06:21,778 --> 05:06:25,987
just bear with us for a few   moments

9976
05:06:25,987 --> 05:06:25,987
moments.

9977
05:06:25,987 --> 05:07:25,857
so the motion is that the essex

9978
05:07:25,857 --> 05:07:27,393
  essex county

9979
05:07:27,393 --> 05:07:28,719
essex county budget be adjusted

9980
05:07:28,719 --> 05:07:30,208
to

9981
05:07:30,208 --> 05:07:33,322
to reflect the 2025 contribution   to the

9982
05:07:33,322 --> 05:07:33,429
to the new windsor-essex   hospital system

9983
05:07:33,429 --> 05:07:36,705
hospital system reserve to be   the sum of

9984
05:07:36,705 --> 05:07:38,682
the sum of 7,040,000.  That's moved

9985
05:07:38,682 --> 05:07:42,398
that's moved by councillor   mcnamara and seconded

9986
05:07:42,398 --> 05:07:42,504
mcnamara and seconded by   councillor

9987
05:07:42,504 --> 05:07:43,999
councillor prue.

9988
05:07:43,999 --> 05:07:46,783
comments or questions in regards   to that

9989
05:07:46,783 --> 05:07:46,842
to that motion?

9990
05:07:46,842 --> 05:07:56,308
councillor gibb.  >> I'm looking

9991
05:07:56,308 --> 05:07:56,537
>> I'm looking at my screen and   it says

9992
05:07:56,537 --> 05:08:00,577
it says 6 million.  That would explain

9993
05:08:00,577 --> 05:08:00,635
that would explain it.

9994
05:08:00,635 --> 05:08:07,306
we cut that a few beats ago.

9995
05:08:07,306 --> 05:08:17,892
no comments or questions?

9996
05:08:17,892 --> 05:08:18,338
I'll ask you to vote   electronically

9997
05:08:18,338 --> 05:08:19,971
electronically, please.

9998
05:08:19,971 --> 05:08:37,332
and that's carried.

9999
05:08:37,332 --> 05:08:43,070
there's a recommendation also to   the presentation

10000
05:08:43,070 --> 05:08:44,821
the presentation for the 2026   propose external commitments

10001
05:08:44,821 --> 05:08:44,926
propose external commitments   budget be

10002
05:08:44,926 --> 05:08:48,177
budget be received and that the

10003
05:08:48,177 --> 05:08:49,417
2026 budget estimates for
External commitments

10004
05:08:49,417 --> 05:08:49,417
2026 budget estimates for
External commitments

10005
05:08:49,417 --> 05:08:51,021
external commitments be received

10006
05:08:51,021 --> 05:08:52,703
or received

10007
05:08:52,703 --> 05:08:53,149
or received and approved as   amended.
Looking

10008
05:08:53,149 --> 05:08:53,149
or received and approved as   amended.
Looking

10009
05:08:53,149 --> 05:08:53,866
looking for a mover.

10010
05:08:53,866 --> 05:08:58,398
moved by councillor prue to   receive

10011
05:08:58,398 --> 05:08:59,982
receive and approve.

10012
05:08:59,982 --> 05:09:05,450
councillor prue, seconded deputy

10013
05:09:05,450 --> 05:09:06,981
warden

10014
05:09:06,981 --> 05:09:07,138
warden, any discussion?

10015
05:09:07,138 --> 05:09:13,932
councillor bailey.  >>

10016
05:09:13,932 --> 05:09:13,982
>> thank you read through you.  Just a

10017
05:09:13,982 --> 05:09:18,302
just a question related to the

10018
05:09:18,302 --> 05:09:19,840
capital renewals

10019
05:09:19,840 --> 05:09:20,286
capital renewals renewal that   was roughly

10020
05:09:20,286 --> 05:09:23,135
was roughly 2 million and went   to

10021
05:09:23,135 --> 05:09:26,187
to 5.7, recognizing the increase   that's

10022
05:09:26,187 --> 05:09:28,702
that's three-point for, I think

10023
05:09:28,702 --> 05:09:30,237
it's related

10024
05:09:30,237 --> 05:09:32,539
it's related to the capital   renewal

10025
05:09:32,539 --> 05:09:34,561
renewal and construction that

10026
05:09:34,561 --> 05:09:34,610
will be

10027
05:09:34,610 --> 05:09:35,051
will be needed with   windsor-essex community

10028
05:09:35,051 --> 05:09:35,268
windsor-essex community housing   corporation but can

10029
05:09:35,268 --> 05:09:35,377
corporation but can you confirm

10030
05:09:35,377 --> 05:09:35,377
?

10031
05:09:35,377 --> 05:09:39,764
>> yes.  That's correct it's   their 10-year

10032
05:09:39,764 --> 05:09:40,732
their 10-year capital plan that

10033
05:09:40,732 --> 05:09:41,241
it's

10034
05:09:41,241 --> 05:09:41,827
it's just certain years are   higher than other

10035
05:09:41,827 --> 05:09:42,157
higher than other.  >> you so much

10036
05:09:42,157 --> 05:09:42,157
>> you so much.

10037
05:09:42,157 --> 05:09:47,605
>> if there are no further   questions

10038
05:09:47,605 --> 05:09:48,207
questions I will ask you to vote   electronically

10039
05:09:48,207 --> 05:09:49,737
electronically, please.

10040
05:09:49,737 --> 05:10:24,354
and that's carried.

10041
05:10:24,354 --> 05:10:33,645
so that concludes the   departmental

10042
05:10:33,645 --> 05:10:34,078
departmental budget   presentations pure we

10043
05:10:34,078 --> 05:10:34,186
presentations pure we are now at   the

10044
05:10:34,186 --> 05:10:40,428
the point where we approve,   amend

10045
05:10:40,428 --> 05:10:41,414
amend, what does it council   wishes

10046
05:10:41,414 --> 05:10:42,171
wishes to dupe your guy will   start

10047
05:10:42,171 --> 05:10:46,226
start with councillor.  >> I

10048
05:10:46,226 --> 05:10:47,535
>> I expect this to be a bit   lengthy and

10049
05:10:47,535 --> 05:10:50,990
lengthy and I will start with

10050
05:10:50,990 --> 05:10:51,040
wanting to

10051
05:10:51,040 --> 05:10:51,694
wanting to add number 19 which   is the

10052
05:10:51,694 --> 05:10:51,802
is the renovation of the storage

10053
05:10:51,802 --> 05:10:53,280
room

10054
05:10:53,280 --> 05:10:55,297
room.  During the

10055
05:10:55,297 --> 05:10:55,852
during the basement already with

10056
05:10:55,852 --> 05:10:56,020
a

10057
05:10:56,020 --> 05:10:56,561
a library.

10058
05:10:56,561 --> 05:10:57,657
I don't understand why we   wouldn't

10059
05:10:57,657 --> 05:10:57,923
wouldn't just add this room,   it's reserved

10060
05:10:57,923 --> 05:10:59,674
it's reserved funded, not a lot

10061
05:10:59,674 --> 05:11:01,333
of money

10062
05:11:01,333 --> 05:11:04,853
of money so that's a motion if   needed.
I

10063
05:11:04,853 --> 05:11:04,853
of money so that's a motion if   needed.
I

10064
05:11:04,853 --> 05:11:05,827
I don't know how you want to do   this

10065
05:11:05,827 --> 05:11:06,154
this one at a time.  >> I

10066
05:11:06,154 --> 05:11:11,516
.  >> I

10067
05:11:11,516 --> 05:11:11,841
>> I think it will be less   confusing for us and

10068
05:11:11,841 --> 05:11:13,323
confusing for us and finance.

10069
05:11:13,323 --> 05:11:15,668
I'm going to rely heavily on the   clerk forwarding

10070
05:11:15,668 --> 05:11:18,738
clerk forwarding et cetera so if   you don't

10071
05:11:18,738 --> 05:11:20,330
you don't mind bearing with us

10072
05:11:20,330 --> 05:11:22,893
will work together that

10073
05:11:22,893 --> 05:11:23,010
will work together that we will   get it

10074
05:11:23,010 --> 05:11:25,922
get it into the phrasing that

10075
05:11:25,922 --> 05:11:25,972
you would like and

10076
05:11:25,972 --> 05:11:27,518
you would like and anyone else   who comes

10077
05:11:27,518 --> 05:11:34,296
who comes forward.  >> so everyone is

10078
05:11:34,296 --> 05:11:34,414
>> so everyone is in the same   comfort

10079
05:11:34,414 --> 05:11:38,186
comfort level if you have an   item

10080
05:11:38,186 --> 05:11:38,451
item that you wish to move from   that

10081
05:11:38,451 --> 05:11:43,433
that list that was previously

10082
05:11:43,433 --> 05:11:43,484
spoken about,

10083
05:11:43,484 --> 05:11:43,593
spoken about, appendix three,   we're tracking

10084
05:11:43,593 --> 05:11:45,561
we're tracking things by the   line

10085
05:11:45,561 --> 05:11:47,164
line number and it would be   helpful

10086
05:11:47,164 --> 05:11:48,730
helpful for us to look at that   number when you move

10087
05:11:48,730 --> 05:11:48,854
number when you move the item.

10088
05:11:48,854 --> 05:11:48,854


10089
05:11:48,854 --> 05:12:20,293
base will be listed under 1210   if

10090
05:12:20,293 --> 05:12:20,401
if you're following on your   agenda

10091
05:12:20,401 --> 05:12:20,401
agenda.

10092
05:12:20,401 --> 05:12:26,101
>> so the first motion,   councillor

10093
05:12:26,101 --> 05:12:28,286
councillor de young is that the   room

10094
05:12:28,286 --> 05:12:28,455
room g28 safety and efficiency

10095
05:12:28,455 --> 05:12:29,982
project

10096
05:12:29,982 --> 05:12:31,230
project added to the 2026   general

10097
05:12:31,230 --> 05:12:32,669
general government corporate   management

10098
05:12:32,669 --> 05:12:34,869
management budget as outlined on   line

10099
05:12:34,869 --> 05:12:38,531
line 19 of the appendix three of   the

10100
05:12:38,531 --> 05:12:38,698
the treasurer's report.

10101
05:12:38,698 --> 05:12:51,403
I will be looking for nods.

10102
05:12:51,403 --> 05:12:53,617
they need a second or cocktails   want to

10103
05:12:53,617 --> 05:12:56,342
want to make sure that melissa   gets what we

10104
05:12:56,342 --> 05:12:57,945
gets what we need.

10105
05:12:57,945 --> 05:13:00,506
looking for a second or, in   regards to that

10106
05:13:00,506 --> 05:13:02,436
regards to that motion, deputy

10107
05:13:02,436 --> 05:13:03,875
warden

10108
05:13:03,875 --> 05:13:06,606
warden, melissa?

10109
05:13:06,606 --> 05:13:07,271
you're good?

10110
05:13:07,271 --> 05:13:07,540
are you clear on that?

10111
05:13:07,540 --> 05:13:07,540
okay.

10112
05:13:07,540 --> 05:13:11,360
any questions from council   council members in regards to

10113
05:13:11,360 --> 05:13:11,419
council members in regards to

10114
05:13:11,419 --> 05:13:11,469
that motion

10115
05:13:11,469 --> 05:13:11,469
that motion?

10116
05:13:11,469 --> 05:13:16,144
no clarification needed.  Okay.

10117
05:13:16,144 --> 05:13:16,144
no clarification needed.  Okay.

10118
05:13:16,144 --> 05:13:53,331
then will ask you.  And that's carried

10119
05:13:53,331 --> 05:13:53,331
and that's carried.

10120
05:13:53,331 --> 05:14:01,470
next, councillor meloche.  >>

10121
05:14:01,470 --> 05:14:06,482
>> one question before I make a

10122
05:14:06,482 --> 05:14:06,823
motion, among

10123
05:14:06,823 --> 05:14:06,932
motion, among our extra items,   number

10124
05:14:06,932 --> 05:14:09,878
number 18 and 23, they're both   speaking

10125
05:14:09,878 --> 05:14:11,851
speaking to the generator and   I'm just wondering

10126
05:14:11,851 --> 05:14:14,913
I'm just wondering why their   separated issues when

10127
05:14:14,913 --> 05:14:15,021
separated issues when they're   both to deal

10128
05:14:15,021 --> 05:14:19,085
both to deal with the generator   in

10129
05:14:19,085 --> 05:14:22,759
in the grid iso agreement.

10130
05:14:22,759 --> 05:14:29,757
>> is that something you can   speak to

10131
05:14:29,757 --> 05:14:29,757
speak to?

10132
05:14:29,757 --> 05:14:37,437
>> I can't pull up that appendix   quickly

10133
05:14:37,437 --> 05:14:37,437
quickly.

10134
05:14:37,437 --> 05:14:42,579
and I would maybe like melissa

10135
05:14:42,579 --> 05:14:43,010
to

10136
05:14:43,010 --> 05:14:43,726
to just confirm, is there an   item in

10137
05:14:43,726 --> 05:14:45,970
item in the additional items for

10138
05:14:45,970 --> 05:14:46,621
a

10139
05:14:46,621 --> 05:14:47,765
a generator study and is there   also one for

10140
05:14:47,765 --> 05:14:47,876
also one for humidity study?

10141
05:14:47,876 --> 05:14:56,736
those of the two that I had.  >> to me

10142
05:14:56,736 --> 05:15:00,699
>> to me, it looks like the same   sort

10143
05:15:00,699 --> 05:15:01,804
sort of study I just want to   figure out

10144
05:15:01,804 --> 05:15:02,569
figure out why there's two   different line items for it

10145
05:15:02,569 --> 05:15:02,678
different line items for it.  If it couldn't

10146
05:15:02,678 --> 05:15:05,823
if it couldn't be one study   completed

10147
05:15:05,823 --> 05:15:08,462
completed, that may cost less

10148
05:15:08,462 --> 05:15:08,512
than dude -- during two separate

10149
05:15:08,512 --> 05:15:08,512
than dude -- during two separate

10150
05:15:08,512 --> 05:15:08,569
studies

10151
05:15:08,569 --> 05:15:08,569
studies.

10152
05:15:08,569 --> 05:15:27,110
>> they are two separate studies   but

10153
05:15:27,110 --> 05:15:27,327
but whenever we put together an   rfp,

10154
05:15:27,327 --> 05:15:29,859
rfp, if they're similar enough

10155
05:15:29,859 --> 05:15:30,237
in

10156
05:15:30,237 --> 05:15:31,167
in scope and we can find someone   to

10157
05:15:31,167 --> 05:15:34,392
to do that same work, that's   definitely

10158
05:15:34,392 --> 05:15:36,361
definitely a possibility so I

10159
05:15:36,361 --> 05:15:36,411
guess at this point,

10160
05:15:36,411 --> 05:15:36,626
guess at this point, if council   chooses to

10161
05:15:36,626 --> 05:15:36,747
chooses to bring both of them in

10162
05:15:36,747 --> 05:15:36,747
  in,

10163
05:15:36,747 --> 05:15:40,463
in, obviously that would be our   budget but if

10164
05:15:40,463 --> 05:15:40,570
budget but if we come in under   budget

10165
05:15:40,570 --> 05:15:41,992
budget, that's fine too.

10166
05:15:41,992 --> 05:15:46,700
>> thank you I would like to   make a motion

10167
05:15:46,700 --> 05:15:47,459
make a motion that we move   forward with those

10168
05:15:47,459 --> 05:15:47,568
forward with those two items   from

10169
05:15:47,568 --> 05:15:52,376
from the appendix three, along   with

10170
05:15:52,376 --> 05:15:58,500
with the other item 24 so those   are the three other

10171
05:15:58,500 --> 05:16:00,104
are the three other remaining

10172
05:16:00,104 --> 05:16:00,104
items

10173
05:16:00,104 --> 05:16:01,782
items and those are reserved   funded

10174
05:16:01,782 --> 05:16:01,890
funded items in the additional

10175
05:16:01,890 --> 05:16:01,890
.

10176
05:16:01,890 --> 05:16:09,062
those are the three I put   forward.

10177
05:16:09,062 --> 05:16:09,062
those are the three I put   forward.

10178
05:16:09,062 --> 05:16:12,998
that's 18, 23, and 24.

10179
05:16:12,998 --> 05:16:18,257
those are all reserved funded.

10180
05:16:18,257 --> 05:16:18,257


10181
05:16:18,257 --> 05:16:30,481
>> if you don't mind clerk's   office

10182
05:16:30,481 --> 05:16:31,022
office would like to do them   separately

10183
05:16:31,022 --> 05:16:31,627
separately so we will vote on

10184
05:16:31,627 --> 05:16:31,676
each one separately

10185
05:16:31,676 --> 05:16:31,676
each one separately.

10186
05:16:31,676 --> 05:16:36,637
>> no problem I just was not   sure because

10187
05:16:36,637 --> 05:16:37,396
sure because 18 and 23 are   similar I wasn't

10188
05:16:37,396 --> 05:16:37,503
similar I wasn't share if we   should put them

10189
05:16:37,503 --> 05:16:38,705
should put them together or not   because if we

10190
05:16:38,705 --> 05:16:41,118
because if we could rf he had   them it would make

10191
05:16:41,118 --> 05:16:41,332
them it would make sense that if   we can

10192
05:16:41,332 --> 05:16:41,441
we can do them soberly.

10193
05:16:41,441 --> 05:16:44,632
>> I think it will do better if   we

10194
05:16:44,632 --> 05:16:45,451
we do it soberly.

10195
05:16:45,451 --> 05:16:45,841
that's their expert opinion so   we

10196
05:16:45,841 --> 05:16:45,949
we will go with that.

10197
05:16:45,949 --> 05:16:49,012
did you have a question   councillor prue

10198
05:16:49,012 --> 05:16:49,012
councillor prue?

10199
05:16:49,012 --> 05:16:51,089
>> I'm trying to understand this

10200
05:16:51,089 --> 05:16:51,089
  this.

10201
05:16:51,089 --> 05:16:51,089
  this.

10202
05:16:51,089 --> 05:16:54,205
right now, they're funded but

10203
05:16:54,205 --> 05:16:54,255
they're funded from the

10204
05:16:54,255 --> 05:16:55,736
they're funded from the reserve

10205
05:16:55,736 --> 05:16:56,888
and the motion is

10206
05:16:56,888 --> 05:16:58,476
and the motion is to fund them

10207
05:16:58,476 --> 05:16:58,739
from general

10208
05:16:58,739 --> 05:17:00,275
from general tax revenue.

10209
05:17:00,275 --> 05:17:01,800
of the is to what?

10210
05:17:01,800 --> 05:17:08,378
okay so they're not on the   budget

10211
05:17:08,378 --> 05:17:10,027
budget, you just wanted back in   the

10212
05:17:10,027 --> 05:17:10,461
the reserve?  Okay now I understand

10213
05:17:10,461 --> 05:17:10,569
okay now I understand.  All right

10214
05:17:10,569 --> 05:17:10,569
all right.

10215
05:17:10,569 --> 05:17:13,849
>> but they were on that wish   list

10216
05:17:13,849 --> 05:17:13,958
list.  >> okay

10217
05:17:13,958 --> 05:17:18,009
>> okay.  >>

10218
05:17:18,009 --> 05:17:18,009
>> okay.

10219
05:17:18,009 --> 05:17:27,985
I need a second for the motion   of the

10220
05:17:27,985 --> 05:17:28,093
of the county a administration

10221
05:17:28,093 --> 05:17:29,618
building

10222
05:17:29,618 --> 05:17:31,201
building generator added to the

10223
05:17:31,201 --> 05:17:32,837
2026 interest

10224
05:17:32,837 --> 05:17:33,265
2026 interest doctrine planning   services budget

10225
05:17:33,265 --> 05:17:33,714
services budget as outlined on   line

10226
05:17:33,714 --> 05:17:35,527
line 18 and the appendix   treasurer's

10227
05:17:35,527 --> 05:17:35,840
treasurer's report.

10228
05:17:35,840 --> 05:17:42,676
moved by councillor meloche   excellent

10229
05:17:42,676 --> 05:17:44,382
excellent -- seconded by   councillor deyong, question

10230
05:17:44,382 --> 05:17:44,492
councillor deyong, question   should go

10231
05:17:44,492 --> 05:17:46,926
should go ahead.  >> to

10232
05:17:46,926 --> 05:17:49,779
>> to do a study in support of   -- I didn't quite

10233
05:17:49,779 --> 05:17:51,365
-- I didn't quite pick up from

10234
05:17:51,365 --> 05:17:51,475
councillor

10235
05:17:51,475 --> 05:17:55,145
councillor prue this usually is   a one-time fund, right?

10236
05:17:55,145 --> 05:17:55,145
councillor prue this usually is   a one-time fund, right?

10237
05:17:55,145 --> 05:18:00,759
so would it be taken from the re  restabilization

10238
05:18:00,759 --> 05:18:03,708
restabilization fund or reserves

10239
05:18:03,708 --> 05:18:03,708
  reserves.

10240
05:18:03,708 --> 05:18:03,708
  reserves.

10241
05:18:03,708 --> 05:18:08,909
I hate to see a study go on a

10242
05:18:08,909 --> 05:18:08,909
base

10243
05:18:08,909 --> 05:18:10,169
base.  >>

10244
05:18:10,169 --> 05:18:10,169
>> melissa?

10245
05:18:10,169 --> 05:18:14,095
>> entire list included some   reserve

10246
05:18:14,095 --> 05:18:17,300
reserve items as well as some   lovely funded items

10247
05:18:17,300 --> 05:18:17,408
lovely funded items so that the   three that

10248
05:18:17,408 --> 05:18:19,010
three that are mentioned right

10249
05:18:19,010 --> 05:18:19,606
now and

10250
05:18:19,606 --> 05:18:20,592
now and we will do them in   separate motions,

10251
05:18:20,592 --> 05:18:20,702
separate motions, they're all   levy

10252
05:18:20,702 --> 05:18:23,864
levy funded and it will be   one-time dollars

10253
05:18:23,864 --> 05:18:24,308
one-time dollars and   restabilization

10254
05:18:24,308 --> 05:18:24,308
restabilization.

10255
05:18:24,308 --> 05:18:28,572
>> the reserve funded.  >> yes

10256
05:18:28,572 --> 05:18:28,572
>> yes.  [booing]

10257
05:18:28,572 --> 05:18:28,572
>> yes.  [booing]

10258
05:18:28,572 --> 05:18:30,970
you said levy but that's okay.  >> sorry.
>>

10259
05:18:30,970 --> 05:18:30,970
you said levy but that's okay.  >> sorry.
>>

10260
05:18:30,970 --> 05:18:31,850
>> reserve funded.  >> reserved

10261
05:18:31,850 --> 05:18:34,260
>> reserved because then I would   be a

10262
05:18:34,260 --> 05:18:38,292
be a post -- this makes sense

10263
05:18:38,292 --> 05:18:38,342
one time funding to

10264
05:18:38,342 --> 05:18:38,448
one time funding to do this   study

10265
05:18:38,448 --> 05:18:42,286
study and then move forward   after the fact

10266
05:18:42,286 --> 05:18:42,286
after the fact.

10267
05:18:42,286 --> 05:18:42,286
okay.

10268
05:18:42,286 --> 05:18:48,299
anyone else?

10269
05:18:48,299 --> 05:18:55,363
really have conversation will

10270
05:18:55,363 --> 05:18:55,412
he   have a conversation with

10271
05:18:55,412 --> 05:18:55,808
have a conversation with mike

10272
05:18:55,808 --> 05:18:55,857
so   without

10273
05:18:55,857 --> 05:19:00,998
without wheat I would prefer if   we

10274
05:19:00,998 --> 05:19:02,209
we have conversation, we stick

10275
05:19:02,209 --> 05:19:02,318
to the mic.

10276
05:19:02,318 --> 05:19:02,318
to the mic.

10277
05:19:02,318 --> 05:19:02,428
please go ahead.

10278
05:19:02,428 --> 05:19:05,559
so the rest of us know what's

10279
05:19:05,559 --> 05:19:05,608
going on

10280
05:19:05,608 --> 05:19:05,934
going on.  >> thank you and I

10281
05:19:05,934 --> 05:19:06,043
>> thank you and I was just   confirming

10282
05:19:06,043 --> 05:19:09,203
confirming that indeed these   three items

10283
05:19:09,203 --> 05:19:09,866
three items are coming from the

10284
05:19:09,866 --> 05:19:09,973
reserve, you're on

10285
05:19:09,973 --> 05:19:10,082
reserve, you're on the wish list   and

10286
05:19:10,082 --> 05:19:12,295
and then we will vote to put   them

10287
05:19:12,295 --> 05:19:15,958
them back in but funded for   reserve

10288
05:19:15,958 --> 05:19:22,581
reserve.  >> for council awareness, these

10289
05:19:22,581 --> 05:19:22,581
>> for council awareness, these

10290
05:19:22,581 --> 05:19:22,690
studies will generate

10291
05:19:22,690 --> 05:19:23,891
studies will generate items that   potentially

10292
05:19:23,891 --> 05:19:27,016
potentially would be required

10293
05:19:27,016 --> 05:19:27,065
in   the future

10294
05:19:27,065 --> 05:19:27,176
the future which would require   other

10295
05:19:27,176 --> 05:19:30,736
other dollars but for now, the

10296
05:19:30,736 --> 05:19:31,124
studies themselves

10297
05:19:31,124 --> 05:19:31,173
studies themselves would be   reserved

10298
05:19:31,173 --> 05:19:31,341
reserved and funded yes.

10299
05:19:31,341 --> 05:19:35,241
>> perfect then thank you for

10300
05:19:35,241 --> 05:19:35,241
that.

10301
05:19:35,241 --> 05:19:35,241
that.

10302
05:19:35,241 --> 05:19:35,458
I think it clarified for   everyone.

10303
05:19:35,458 --> 05:19:35,458
I think it clarified for   everyone.

10304
05:19:35,458 --> 05:19:39,137
>> with that, I will ask you to   vote electronically

10305
05:19:39,137 --> 05:19:40,780
vote electronically, please.

10306
05:19:40,780 --> 05:20:02,133
>> a question before, there's no   no mention

10307
05:20:02,133 --> 05:20:03,722
no mention here about the   reserves

10308
05:20:03,722 --> 05:20:04,862
reserves.  Should it be

10309
05:20:04,862 --> 05:20:06,458
should it be indicated in the

10310
05:20:06,458 --> 05:20:06,458
motion

10311
05:20:06,458 --> 05:20:06,458
motion?

10312
05:20:06,458 --> 05:20:09,046
>> it's in the report.

10313
05:20:09,046 --> 05:20:11,948
if you look on page 37 in the

10314
05:20:11,948 --> 05:20:11,997
report, it lists

10315
05:20:11,997 --> 05:20:13,585
report, it lists where those   projects

10316
05:20:13,585 --> 05:20:15,222
projects are being funded from

10317
05:20:15,222 --> 05:20:16,264
.  >> okay

10318
05:20:16,264 --> 05:20:18,022
>> okay so just the confusing   part

10319
05:20:18,022 --> 05:20:19,999
part is there in the report but   it's

10320
05:20:19,999 --> 05:20:23,010
it's not in the actual motion.

10321
05:20:23,010 --> 05:20:25,681
>> it says as outlined

10322
05:20:25,681 --> 05:20:25,792
>> it says as outlined, if you   want

10323
05:20:25,792 --> 05:20:29,830
want to pull up that appendix   three, if you've

10324
05:20:29,830 --> 05:20:29,937
three, if you've got the printed

10325
05:20:29,937 --> 05:20:31,428
version

10326
05:20:31,428 --> 05:20:33,119
version, so it says as outlined

10327
05:20:33,119 --> 05:20:33,226
in the

10328
05:20:33,226 --> 05:20:34,701
in the report.

10329
05:20:34,701 --> 05:20:39,790
and that's carried, thank you.

10330
05:20:39,790 --> 05:20:39,790


10331
05:20:39,790 --> 05:20:45,915
next, anybody else?

10332
05:20:45,915 --> 05:21:08,701
so this is now, we're waiting   for

10333
05:21:08,701 --> 05:21:10,121
for that wording.

10334
05:21:10,121 --> 05:21:48,041
>> the motion is that how did   administration

10335
05:21:48,041 --> 05:21:48,369
administration building summer   humidity investigation

10336
05:21:48,369 --> 05:21:48,584
humidity investigation be added   to

10337
05:21:48,584 --> 05:21:51,100
to the 2026 infrastructure and   planning services

10338
05:21:51,100 --> 05:21:54,026
planning services budget as   outlined

10339
05:21:54,026 --> 05:21:56,154
outlined on line 23 of the   appendix

10340
05:21:56,154 --> 05:21:56,259
appendix three of the treasurer  treasurer's report

10341
05:21:56,259 --> 05:21:56,259
treasurer's report.

10342
05:21:56,259 --> 05:22:02,013
that was moved by councillor   meloche and seconded

10343
05:22:02,013 --> 05:22:02,122
meloche and seconded by   councillor deyong.
So we're

10344
05:22:02,122 --> 05:22:02,122
meloche and seconded by   councillor deyong.
So we're

10345
05:22:02,122 --> 05:22:05,725
so we're now looking into that   electronically

10346
05:22:05,725 --> 05:22:05,725
electronically.

10347
05:22:05,725 --> 05:22:41,862
and that's carried.

10348
05:22:41,862 --> 05:23:01,670
one last motion.

10349
05:23:01,670 --> 05:23:14,582
and this motion is that the   county administration

10350
05:23:14,582 --> 05:23:15,027
county administration building   west

10351
05:23:15,027 --> 05:23:15,675
west to south sidewalk be added   to

10352
05:23:15,675 --> 05:23:20,614
to 2026 infrastructure and   planning services budget

10353
05:23:20,614 --> 05:23:21,063
planning services budget as   outlined on line

10354
05:23:21,063 --> 05:23:21,173
outlined on line 24 of the   appendix

10355
05:23:21,173 --> 05:23:22,704
appendix three of the treasurer

10356
05:23:22,704 --> 05:23:22,704
  treasurer's

10357
05:23:22,704 --> 05:23:27,079
treasurer's report, moved by   councillor meloche and seconded

10358
05:23:27,079 --> 05:23:27,079
councillor meloche and seconded

10359
05:23:27,079 --> 05:23:30,243
by councillor deyong

10360
05:23:30,243 --> 05:23:30,243
by councillor deyong.

10361
05:23:30,243 --> 05:24:01,108
looking for voting.  And that's carried

10362
05:24:01,108 --> 05:24:01,108
and that's carried.

10363
05:24:01,108 --> 05:24:11,203
councillor gibb.  >> thank you madame

10364
05:24:11,203 --> 05:24:11,372
>> thank you madame morden.  I'd

10365
05:24:11,372 --> 05:24:12,627
I'd like to make a motion that   we

10366
05:24:12,627 --> 05:24:16,877
we include item number one on   the business

10367
05:24:16,877 --> 05:24:20,707
the business case requests for   the committee

10368
05:24:20,707 --> 05:24:20,816
the committee programs   coordinator

10369
05:24:20,816 --> 05:24:20,816
coordinator.

10370
05:24:20,816 --> 05:24:24,667
if I can get a secondary, I'd   like to speak to

10371
05:24:24,667 --> 05:24:24,727
like to speak to it.

10372
05:24:24,727 --> 05:24:32,105
>> community programs   coordinator

10373
05:24:32,105 --> 05:24:37,679
coordinator for ens.  I'll wait till

10374
05:24:37,679 --> 05:24:40,169
I'll wait till we get -- oh it's   already

10375
05:24:40,169 --> 05:24:40,169
already.

10376
05:24:40,169 --> 05:24:43,363
were 79 steps ahead of me.

10377
05:24:43,363 --> 05:24:46,542
steps ahead of me.

10378
05:24:46,542 --> 05:24:48,959
their ego.

10379
05:24:48,959 --> 05:24:51,268
so the motion is that the   community

10380
05:24:51,268 --> 05:24:51,592
community programs coordinator

10381
05:24:51,592 --> 05:24:51,700
be added to

10382
05:24:51,700 --> 05:24:53,564
be added to the 2026 essex   windsor ens

10383
05:24:53,564 --> 05:24:56,570
windsor ens budget as outlined

10384
05:24:56,570 --> 05:24:57,111
on

10385
05:24:57,111 --> 05:24:58,217
on line one of the appendix   three of the

10386
05:24:58,217 --> 05:24:59,798
three of the treasurer's report

10387
05:24:59,798 --> 05:25:01,122
and

10388
05:25:01,122 --> 05:25:02,367
and that's moved by councillor   gibb and seconded

10389
05:25:02,367 --> 05:25:02,475
gibb and seconded by councillor   meloche

10390
05:25:02,475 --> 05:25:02,475
meloche.

10391
05:25:02,475 --> 05:25:21,021
councillor gibb wanted to speak   to

10392
05:25:21,021 --> 05:25:21,361
to that.  I apologize.
>>

10393
05:25:21,361 --> 05:25:21,361
to that.  I apologize.
>>

10394
05:25:21,361 --> 05:25:24,557
>> I feel that we've done so   much

10395
05:25:24,557 --> 05:25:27,733
much work on the public access   to for belated

10396
05:25:27,733 --> 05:25:30,972
to for belated program that to

10397
05:25:30,972 --> 05:25:31,128
see it full by the

10398
05:25:31,128 --> 05:25:31,251
see it full by the wayside would   really be a

10399
05:25:31,251 --> 05:25:32,185
really be a shame.  I

10400
05:25:32,185 --> 05:25:37,642
I like the idea of public cpr

10401
05:25:37,642 --> 05:25:37,691
training and building community
Resilience

10402
05:25:37,691 --> 05:25:37,691
training and building community
Resilience

10403
05:25:37,691 --> 05:25:40,101
resilience I think is important,

10404
05:25:40,101 --> 05:25:40,158
especially

10405
05:25:40,158 --> 05:25:42,288
especially when our ems system   is

10406
05:25:42,288 --> 05:25:45,363
is stretched to have civilians   who can step

10407
05:25:45,363 --> 05:25:48,219
who can step in and take care of   people

10408
05:25:48,219 --> 05:25:50,623
people who needed, isn't readily

10409
05:25:50,623 --> 05:25:52,098
important

10410
05:25:52,098 --> 05:25:52,098
important.

10411
05:25:52,098 --> 05:25:54,990
one of the other things that   she's

10412
05:25:54,990 --> 05:25:55,316
she's mentioned as it reduces   and prevents

10413
05:25:55,316 --> 05:25:57,838
and prevents 911 calls when   people know

10414
05:25:57,838 --> 05:25:59,426
people know how to use these   machines

10415
05:25:59,426 --> 05:26:01,346
machines and know how to keep --

10416
05:26:01,346 --> 05:26:01,513
take

10417
05:26:01,513 --> 05:26:01,779
take care of each other.

10418
05:26:01,779 --> 05:26:06,474
for something that's $121,000   but half of that

10419
05:26:06,474 --> 05:26:08,392
but half of that cost will be

10420
05:26:08,392 --> 05:26:08,441
recuperated from the

10421
05:26:08,441 --> 05:26:10,913
recuperated from the city and

10422
05:26:10,913 --> 05:26:11,131
in   year

10423
05:26:11,131 --> 05:26:13,319
year two I believe, another half

10424
05:26:13,319 --> 05:26:13,588
of that cost is recuperated

10425
05:26:13,588 --> 05:26:13,696
of that cost is recuperated from   the province

10426
05:26:13,696 --> 05:26:16,547
the province so for essentially

10427
05:26:16,547 --> 05:26:16,874
$30,000, I think this

10428
05:26:16,874 --> 05:26:18,454
$30,000, I think this is well

10429
05:26:18,454 --> 05:26:18,454
worth

10430
05:26:18,454 --> 05:26:19,277
worth investing in.

10431
05:26:19,277 --> 05:26:25,518
>> thank you, councillor deyong,   comment

10432
05:26:25,518 --> 05:26:25,626
comment.  >> a question

10433
05:26:25,626 --> 05:26:25,626
>> a question.

10434
05:26:25,626 --> 05:26:30,663
any existing ems program,   there's someone who

10435
05:26:30,663 --> 05:26:31,199
there's someone who can do this   training I'm guessing

10436
05:26:31,199 --> 05:26:31,305
training I'm guessing because I   had

10437
05:26:31,305 --> 05:26:35,024
had done by ems at the community   centre for

10438
05:26:35,024 --> 05:26:35,133
centre for my senior year   volunteers

10439
05:26:35,133 --> 05:26:35,133
volunteers.

10440
05:26:35,133 --> 05:26:39,080
I'm just hearing comments that's   adjusted if

10441
05:26:39,080 --> 05:26:40,057
adjusted if we don't find this

10442
05:26:40,057 --> 05:26:40,611
new program

10443
05:26:40,611 --> 05:26:41,809
new program, that will be   available

10444
05:26:41,809 --> 05:26:42,458
available anymore, we won't have   someone who can

10445
05:26:42,458 --> 05:26:42,567
someone who can come and teach

10446
05:26:42,567 --> 05:26:43,557
cpr or help people

10447
05:26:43,557 --> 05:26:46,728
cpr or help people learn that we   current have

10448
05:26:46,728 --> 05:26:47,931
current have written out will is   that

10449
05:26:47,931 --> 05:26:50,117
that.  >> numbers of

10450
05:26:50,117 --> 05:26:51,867
>> numbers of counsel, that's   correct we

10451
05:26:51,867 --> 05:26:51,976
correct we will not have a   dedicate a

10452
05:26:51,976 --> 05:26:54,708
dedicate a lead as mentioned   earlier it would be

10453
05:26:54,708 --> 05:26:54,818
earlier it would be peace nailed

10454
05:26:54,818 --> 05:26:56,360
so we

10455
05:26:56,360 --> 05:26:57,131
so we will do it we could but we   will

10456
05:26:57,131 --> 05:27:00,351
will not have been.  [inaudible]

10457
05:27:00,351 --> 05:27:00,351
will not have been.  [inaudible]

10458
05:27:00,351 --> 05:27:01,450
>> so the person is dedicated

10459
05:27:01,450 --> 05:27:01,499
now as

10460
05:27:01,499 --> 05:27:03,355
now as being reassigned to a   different area

10461
05:27:03,355 --> 05:27:06,377
different area or was never   dedicated

10462
05:27:06,377 --> 05:27:07,640
dedicated then he just filled in  in?

10463
05:27:07,640 --> 05:27:07,640
dedicated then he just filled in  in?

10464
05:27:07,640 --> 05:27:07,801
I'm just trying to understand

10465
05:27:07,801 --> 05:27:07,850
because I thought

10466
05:27:07,850 --> 05:27:09,718
because I thought we had   somebody in there

10467
05:27:09,718 --> 05:27:11,301
somebody in there who's doing

10468
05:27:11,301 --> 05:27:11,301
that

10469
05:27:11,301 --> 05:27:24,612
that.  >> the individual

10470
05:27:24,612 --> 05:27:25,259
>> the individual doing it right   now is

10471
05:27:25,259 --> 05:27:27,392
now is not permanently in the

10472
05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:27,392
role.
It

10473
05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:27,392
role.
It

10474
05:27:27,392 --> 05:27:28,649
it will be tough for me to get   any

10475
05:27:28,649 --> 05:27:28,760
any deeper than that.

10476
05:27:28,760 --> 05:27:37,304
>> councillor bondy.  >>

10477
05:27:37,304 --> 05:27:37,402
>> thank you madame morden.

10478
05:27:37,402 --> 05:27:39,701
this will be like that person   will be

10479
05:27:39,701 --> 05:27:43,867
will be in the budget and going   forward and then the

10480
05:27:43,867 --> 05:27:43,976
forward and then the province   picks up on it

10481
05:27:43,976 --> 05:27:43,976
picks up on it.

10482
05:27:43,976 --> 05:27:47,038
thank you.

10483
05:27:47,038 --> 05:27:51,765
I will be supporting it I've   seen a lot

10484
05:27:51,765 --> 05:27:52,362
seen a lot of gains in education

10485
05:27:52,362 --> 05:27:52,967
  education, I

10486
05:27:52,967 --> 05:27:53,952
education, I think it's vital.  We were

10487
05:27:53,952 --> 05:27:55,255
we were just -- we adjusted our   ed

10488
05:27:55,255 --> 05:27:58,784
ed yesterday I think at the cold

10489
05:27:58,784 --> 05:27:58,893
chester harbor and I

10490
05:27:58,893 --> 05:27:59,001
chester harbor and I see the   value in

10491
05:27:59,001 --> 05:28:01,618
value in this.  After this I'm

10492
05:28:01,618 --> 05:28:01,725
after this I'm wondering if we   can

10493
05:28:01,725 --> 05:28:05,783
can get where we are with our   levy before

10494
05:28:05,783 --> 05:28:06,645
levy before we keep going.  I think I'm

10495
05:28:06,645 --> 05:28:06,769
I think I'm curious to see where   we

10496
05:28:06,769 --> 05:28:08,519
we are.  Please and

10497
05:28:08,519 --> 05:28:08,626
please and thank you.

10498
05:28:08,626 --> 05:28:46,203
>> we are just conferring on the   wording

10499
05:28:46,203 --> 05:28:48,716
wording because the appendix   refers to

10500
05:28:48,716 --> 05:28:51,778
refers to the full cost as our   finance folks

10501
05:28:51,778 --> 05:28:52,549
finance folks have alluded to.

10502
05:28:52,549 --> 05:28:52,874
we just want to

10503
05:28:52,874 --> 05:28:52,982
we just want to make it   abundantly

10504
05:28:52,982 --> 05:28:55,771
abundantly clear, the amount   that

10505
05:28:55,771 --> 05:28:56,219
that we are adding back to the

10506
05:28:56,219 --> 05:28:57,641
budget

10507
05:28:57,641 --> 05:28:58,555
budget and it's 50% of that   amount

10508
05:28:58,555 --> 05:28:58,555
amount.

10509
05:28:58,555 --> 05:29:01,906
you will bear with us a moment

10510
05:29:01,906 --> 05:29:02,946
to make that clarification and

10511
05:29:02,946 --> 05:29:02,946
to make that clarification and

10512
05:29:02,946 --> 05:29:03,007
motion

10513
05:29:03,007 --> 05:29:03,007
motion.

10514
05:29:03,007 --> 05:29:39,195
>> a motion is that the   community programs coordinator

10515
05:29:39,195 --> 05:29:39,195
community programs coordinator

10516
05:29:39,195 --> 05:29:41,056
be added to

10517
05:29:41,056 --> 05:29:45,542
be added to the 2026 essex ems   budget as outlined

10518
05:29:45,542 --> 05:29:47,752
budget as outlined on 11 of   appendix

10519
05:29:47,752 --> 05:29:47,860
appendix three of the treasurer  treasurer's

10520
05:29:47,860 --> 05:29:50,269
treasurer's report at 50% of the

10521
05:29:50,269 --> 05:29:50,376
indicated amount

10522
05:29:50,376 --> 05:29:50,376
indicated amount.

10523
05:29:50,376 --> 05:29:54,910
because of the sharing with   partners

10524
05:29:54,910 --> 05:29:54,910
partners.

10525
05:29:54,910 --> 05:29:54,910
understood?  Perfect

10526
05:29:54,910 --> 05:29:54,910
perfect.

10527
05:29:54,910 --> 05:30:01,047
I'm looking to melissa.

10528
05:30:01,047 --> 05:30:12,742
it's technical because of the

10529
05:30:12,742 --> 05:30:12,791
weighted assessment, right?

10530
05:30:12,791 --> 05:30:12,791
weighted assessment, right?

10531
05:30:12,791 --> 05:30:14,170
so I leave it up to the group,

10532
05:30:14,170 --> 05:30:14,435
I   don't want

10533
05:30:14,435 --> 05:30:15,253
don't want to get that technical

10534
05:30:15,253 --> 05:30:16,785
but

10535
05:30:16,785 --> 05:30:20,772
but it's approximately so we'll   change it

10536
05:30:20,772 --> 05:30:21,439
change it.  >> we will change it

10537
05:30:21,439 --> 05:30:21,547
>> we will change it to weighted   assessment

10538
05:30:21,547 --> 05:30:25,000
assessment so good.

10539
05:30:25,000 --> 05:30:25,264
I don't think that's being picky  picky.
I

10540
05:30:25,264 --> 05:30:25,264
I don't think that's being picky  picky.
I

10541
05:30:25,264 --> 05:30:27,019
I think that's being exact.

10542
05:30:27,019 --> 05:30:34,891
councillor akpata.  >> to our finance person

10543
05:30:34,891 --> 05:30:35,106
>> to our finance person, if one   of

10544
05:30:35,106 --> 05:30:36,959
of our partners the sides don't   want to

10545
05:30:36,959 --> 05:30:40,267
want to find anything, then what   happens

10546
05:30:40,267 --> 05:30:40,267
happens?

10547
05:30:40,267 --> 05:30:44,234
I'm just saying that my windsor   star

10548
05:30:44,234 --> 05:30:44,448
star open I don't want to   mention that

10549
05:30:44,448 --> 05:30:47,178
mention that place and we don't

10550
05:30:47,178 --> 05:30:47,575
want

10551
05:30:47,575 --> 05:30:48,941
want -- they don't seem to want   to do

10552
05:30:48,941 --> 05:30:49,049
to do anything just wondering   what this

10553
05:30:49,049 --> 05:30:54,846
what this position.  >> because

10554
05:30:54,846 --> 05:30:55,819
>> because we provide the   service

10555
05:30:55,819 --> 05:30:56,390
service, the county provides the   service we get this

10556
05:30:56,390 --> 05:30:56,498
service we get this at that   service

10557
05:30:56,498 --> 05:31:00,111
service level, similar to how   the city gets

10558
05:31:00,111 --> 05:31:01,699
the city gets a social services

10559
05:31:01,699 --> 05:31:02,785
--

10560
05:31:02,785 --> 05:31:05,571
-- so it's the same kind of   scenario

10561
05:31:05,571 --> 05:31:07,324
scenario, whether the service   levels are set

10562
05:31:07,324 --> 05:31:08,856
levels are set on us the cost of   service

10563
05:31:08,856 --> 05:31:13,345
service level.  >> thank you

10564
05:31:13,345 --> 05:31:13,996
>> thank you.  >> you have the

10565
05:31:13,996 --> 05:31:14,103
>> you have the windsor star   open and the

10566
05:31:14,103 --> 05:31:16,952
open and the budget meeting?  Just asking.

10567
05:31:16,952 --> 05:31:16,952
open and the budget meeting?  Just asking.

10568
05:31:16,952 --> 05:31:18,480
with that,.  >> not intentionally

10569
05:31:18,480 --> 05:31:20,355
>> not intentionally.  >> the reworded

10570
05:31:20,355 --> 05:31:23,483
>> the reworded motion of the

10571
05:31:23,483 --> 05:31:23,483
coordinator

10572
05:31:23,483 --> 05:31:24,845
coordinator be added to the 2026   essex windsor ems

10573
05:31:24,845 --> 05:31:27,797
essex windsor ems budget is out   of line

10574
05:31:27,797 --> 05:31:29,764
of line -- as outlined on line   one, the appendix

10575
05:31:29,764 --> 05:31:29,875
one, the appendix three of the   treasurer

10576
05:31:29,875 --> 05:31:32,551
treasurer's report.

10577
05:31:32,551 --> 05:31:33,479
to be divided in accordance with   the

10578
05:31:33,479 --> 05:31:34,527
the weighted assessment rely.

10579
05:31:34,527 --> 05:31:39,781
looking to my move around   secondary

10580
05:31:39,781 --> 05:31:47,722
secondary so you asked, you're   the

10581
05:31:47,722 --> 05:31:49,245
the second or councillor meloche

10582
05:31:49,245 --> 05:31:50,230
with that

10583
05:31:50,230 --> 05:31:50,450
with that will ask you to vote

10584
05:31:50,450 --> 05:31:50,505
electronically

10585
05:31:50,505 --> 05:31:52,094
electronically, please.

10586
05:31:52,094 --> 05:32:16,528
and that's carried.  Any other adjustments

10587
05:32:16,528 --> 05:32:18,117
any other adjustments to the   final

10588
05:32:18,117 --> 05:32:23,768
final -- deputy warden.  >> I will try

10589
05:32:23,768 --> 05:32:24,090
>> I will try to get this motion  motion.
I

10590
05:32:24,090 --> 05:32:24,090
>> I will try to get this motion  motion.
I

10591
05:32:24,090 --> 05:32:27,597
I would like to add the   additional hours

10592
05:32:27,597 --> 05:32:27,703
additional hours under ems to be   added

10593
05:32:27,703 --> 05:32:33,062
added to the 26th budget for   essex windsor

10594
05:32:33,062 --> 05:32:37,712
essex windsor ems as outlined

10595
05:32:37,712 --> 05:32:37,761
in   the

10596
05:32:37,761 --> 05:32:37,928
the appendix three of the   treasurer's

10597
05:32:37,928 --> 05:32:41,104
treasurer's report to be divided

10598
05:32:41,104 --> 05:32:42,681
in accordance with weighted
Assessment

10599
05:32:42,681 --> 05:32:42,681
in accordance with weighted
Assessment

10600
05:32:42,681 --> 05:32:42,739
assessment formula.

10601
05:32:42,739 --> 05:32:46,602
>> that's the additional   training

10602
05:32:46,602 --> 05:32:48,188
training hours, right?

10603
05:32:48,188 --> 05:32:50,328
>> yes.

10604
05:32:50,328 --> 05:32:54,334
>> and that's number five on the   -- we

10605
05:32:54,334 --> 05:32:56,083
-- we will just wait until the   wording

10606
05:32:56,083 --> 05:33:08,064
wording gets -- so the motion

10607
05:33:08,064 --> 05:33:08,114
is   that the additional

10608
05:33:08,114 --> 05:33:08,220
that the additional training   hours be

10609
05:33:08,220 --> 05:33:11,499
hours be added to the 2026 essex

10610
05:33:11,499 --> 05:33:11,823
the ms budget as

10611
05:33:11,823 --> 05:33:14,356
the ms budget as outlined on   line

10612
05:33:14,356 --> 05:33:15,453
line five, the appendix three of   the treasurer's report

10613
05:33:15,453 --> 05:33:17,049
the treasurer's report to be   divided

10614
05:33:17,049 --> 05:33:17,642
divided in accordance with the

10615
05:33:17,642 --> 05:33:17,749
weighted assessment

10616
05:33:17,749 --> 05:33:19,493
weighted assessment formula   that's moved

10617
05:33:19,493 --> 05:33:22,676
that's moved by deputy warden   and seconded

10618
05:33:22,676 --> 05:33:22,782
and seconded by councillor bondy

10619
05:33:22,782 --> 05:33:22,782
  bondy.

10620
05:33:22,782 --> 05:33:22,782
  bondy.

10621
05:33:22,782 --> 05:33:29,256
>> just a point of information,   can we

10622
05:33:29,256 --> 05:33:30,667
can we get that levy before we   keep

10623
05:33:30,667 --> 05:33:31,831
keep going?

10624
05:33:31,831 --> 05:33:40,958
>> kindly vote on this and then   we

10625
05:33:40,958 --> 05:33:41,173
we will have a conversation?

10626
05:33:41,173 --> 05:33:42,760
is that okay?

10627
05:33:42,760 --> 05:33:43,473
lesser getting almost ready time   for

10628
05:33:43,473 --> 05:33:46,534
for break so let's do a couple   of these

10629
05:33:46,534 --> 05:33:49,258
of these things in sequential   order.

10630
05:33:49,258 --> 05:33:49,258
of these things in sequential   order.

10631
05:33:49,258 --> 05:33:52,607
so that's asked about.

10632
05:33:52,607 --> 05:34:04,804
much that cost is and I know   that

10633
05:34:04,804 --> 05:34:07,649
that it's.  >>

10634
05:34:07,649 --> 05:34:11,928
>> it's 199,935.  >> page

10635
05:34:11,928 --> 05:34:12,142
>> page 31.  >> about some

10636
05:34:12,142 --> 05:34:15,148
>> about some of the $100,000.

10637
05:34:15,148 --> 05:34:15,658
>> yes, close, ballpark.

10638
05:34:15,658 --> 05:34:15,658
>> yes, close, ballpark.

10639
05:34:15,658 --> 05:34:15,766
>> thank you.

10640
05:34:15,766 --> 05:34:43,556
and that's carried.

10641
05:34:43,556 --> 05:34:46,242
so melissa, you have a question

10642
05:34:46,242 --> 05:34:46,346
from councillor bondy

10643
05:34:46,346 --> 05:34:48,659
from councillor bondy about   where we

10644
05:34:48,659 --> 05:34:51,662
where we are in regards to levy

10645
05:34:51,662 --> 05:34:53,196
amount

10646
05:34:53,196 --> 05:34:53,196
amount?

10647
05:34:53,196 --> 05:34:55,984
do you need time to do that   because

10648
05:34:55,984 --> 05:34:57,690
because we scheduled for a break  break,

10649
05:34:57,690 --> 05:34:59,599
break, and I believe it's just   so that running totals can

10650
05:34:59,599 --> 05:34:59,704
so that running totals can be   kept in

10651
05:34:59,704 --> 05:35:03,321
kept in heads.  On comfortable

10652
05:35:03,321 --> 05:35:04,199
on comfortable.  >> I'm comfortable

10653
05:35:04,199 --> 05:35:04,755
>> I'm comfortable doing I don't

10654
05:35:04,755 --> 05:35:05,188
busy women

10655
05:35:05,188 --> 05:35:05,295
busy women have the final motion

10656
05:35:05,295 --> 05:35:05,405
of regulation

10657
05:35:05,405 --> 05:35:07,489
of regulation, will make sure   that all the

10658
05:35:07,489 --> 05:35:07,598
that all the number that correct

10659
05:35:07,598 --> 05:35:09,027
so right now,

10660
05:35:09,027 --> 05:35:11,917
so right now, I had us reducing

10661
05:35:11,917 --> 05:35:12,525
16,800 her

10662
05:35:12,525 --> 05:35:14,054
16,800 her counsel remuneration

10663
05:35:14,054 --> 05:35:16,487
for

10664
05:35:16,487 --> 05:35:17,841
for that 2.5 percent increase   have a reduction

10665
05:35:17,841 --> 05:35:22,552
have a reduction of 720,000 that   we were putting towards

10666
05:35:22,552 --> 05:35:22,661
we were putting towards the   hospital

10667
05:35:22,661 --> 05:35:25,055
hospital reserve and then added

10668
05:35:25,055 --> 05:35:25,178
back to the levy

10669
05:35:25,178 --> 05:35:26,984
back to the levy, specifically

10670
05:35:26,984 --> 05:35:28,455
is the pad

10671
05:35:28,455 --> 05:35:31,304
is the pad position as well as   the

10672
05:35:31,304 --> 05:35:34,255
the training hours, the eight   hours of training

10673
05:35:34,255 --> 05:35:34,359
hours of training hours so that   brings

10674
05:35:34,359 --> 05:35:39,842
brings us to 2.25% tax rate   increase at

10675
05:35:39,842 --> 05:35:41,005
increase at this time.

10676
05:35:41,005 --> 05:35:48,605
>> any questions on those   numbers at

10677
05:35:48,605 --> 05:35:52,882
numbers at all no questions.

10678
05:35:52,882 --> 05:35:58,787
councillor walstedt.  >> approve

10679
05:35:58,787 --> 05:35:59,762
>> approve the budget, so moved

10680
05:35:59,762 --> 05:36:00,208
.  Were out of here

10681
05:36:00,208 --> 05:36:00,317
were out of here.  A don't know else

10682
05:36:00,317 --> 05:36:00,422
a don't know else to talk about

10683
05:36:00,422 --> 05:36:00,422
.

10684
05:36:00,422 --> 05:36:04,467
I don't need a break,.  >> well, you know,

10685
05:36:04,467 --> 05:36:07,221
>> well, you know, what, they   just need a

10686
05:36:07,221 --> 05:36:08,680
just need a minute.

10687
05:36:08,680 --> 05:36:12,799
can we take a break and then we

10688
05:36:12,799 --> 05:36:12,908
will come back to

10689
05:36:12,908 --> 05:36:15,336
will come back to that amount   through endless

10690
05:36:15,336 --> 05:36:24,596
through endless treatment --   come

10691
05:36:24,596 --> 05:36:25,739
come back to you and your   statement.
We

10692
05:36:25,739 --> 05:36:25,739
come back to you and your   statement.
We

10693
05:36:25,739 --> 05:36:28,303
we will do a 15 minute break,

10694
05:36:28,303 --> 05:36:28,303
can

10695
05:36:28,303 --> 05:36:29,894
can you be back here at 2:50, I   need a

10696
05:36:29,894 --> 05:36:35,819
need a motion councillor meloche

10697
05:36:35,819 --> 05:36:36,097
and

10698
05:36:36,097 --> 05:36:37,336
and councillor akpata I call in   favour

10699
05:36:37,336 --> 05:36:38,329
favour of a 15 minute break,   opposed

10700
05:36:38,329 --> 05:36:38,437
opposed, carried.

10701
05:36:38,437 --> 05:36:51,967


10702
05:36:51,967 --> 05:36:51,967


10703
05:36:51,967 --> 05:36:51,967


10704
05:36:51,967 --> 05:36:51,967


10705
05:36:51,967 --> 05:36:51,967


10706
05:36:51,967 --> 05:36:51,967


10707
05:36:51,967 --> 05:47:00,883
>> test.

10708
05:47:00,883 --> 05:47:12,898
>> test.

10709
05:47:12,898 --> 05:51:59,728
we're at 2:50 and I'd like to   resume the

10710
05:51:59,728 --> 05:52:01,215
resume the meeting.

10711
05:52:01,215 --> 05:52:13,749
councillor walstedt we have a

10712
05:52:13,749 --> 05:52:13,798
few folks

10713
05:52:13,798 --> 05:52:14,775
few folks who would like to   include a

10714
05:52:14,775 --> 05:52:14,884
include a few motions if you   don't

10715
05:52:14,884 --> 05:52:16,412
don't mind holding off.  >> if they

10716
05:52:16,412 --> 05:52:17,783
>> if they insist.  [laughter]

10717
05:52:17,783 --> 05:52:17,783
>> if they insist.  [laughter]

10718
05:52:17,783 --> 05:52:22,120
>> thank you kind, sir,.

10719
05:52:22,120 --> 05:52:22,228
it's duly appreciated.

10720
05:52:22,228 --> 05:52:28,051
councillor bailey.  >> I wanted to

10721
05:52:28,051 --> 05:52:28,159
>> I wanted to circle back to   the

10722
05:52:28,159 --> 05:52:29,906
the group because we were   talking

10723
05:52:29,906 --> 05:52:34,738
talking about the 10161   kilometres

10724
05:52:34,738 --> 05:52:35,497
kilometres we created in this   region and I

10725
05:52:35,497 --> 05:52:38,014
region and I understand that we

10726
05:52:38,014 --> 05:52:38,123
do have

10727
05:52:38,123 --> 05:52:39,438
do have the number I know I've   been talking to my

10728
05:52:39,438 --> 05:52:39,547
been talking to my department   throughout

10729
05:52:39,547 --> 05:52:42,445
throughout the day and having

10730
05:52:42,445 --> 05:52:42,495
some conversation so I

10731
05:52:42,495 --> 05:52:42,604
some conversation so I know we

10732
05:52:42,604 --> 05:52:44,142
do have

10733
05:52:44,142 --> 05:52:44,684
do have a number they purify   also

10734
05:52:44,684 --> 05:52:48,734
also know that the dollars being   asked for

10735
05:52:48,734 --> 05:52:50,590
asked for is just a bit of an   earmark

10736
05:52:50,590 --> 05:52:51,349
earmark because it comes from   the

10737
05:52:51,349 --> 05:52:53,015
the reserve and will not impact

10738
05:52:53,015 --> 05:52:53,075
the

10739
05:52:53,075 --> 05:52:54,718
the levy anyway but I did want

10740
05:52:54,718 --> 05:52:55,205
to be able to

10741
05:52:55,205 --> 05:52:58,808
to be able to return back to the

10742
05:52:58,808 --> 05:52:59,300
c

10743
05:52:59,300 --> 05:53:00,968
c watts committee and groups as

10744
05:53:00,968 --> 05:53:01,564
we talk

10745
05:53:01,564 --> 05:53:03,313
we talk to them saying that we   have

10746
05:53:03,313 --> 05:53:04,071
have reserved the dollars in the

10747
05:53:04,071 --> 05:53:04,179
reserve for that

10748
05:53:04,179 --> 05:53:07,149
reserve for that product and I

10749
05:53:07,149 --> 05:53:07,365
will ask

10750
05:53:07,365 --> 05:53:07,644
will ask it administration if

10751
05:53:07,644 --> 05:53:07,693
they can confirm the

10752
05:53:07,693 --> 05:53:09,720
they can confirm the amount that

10753
05:53:09,720 --> 05:53:10,326
would be needed to

10754
05:53:10,326 --> 05:53:11,047
would be needed to be earmark

10755
05:53:11,047 --> 05:53:11,096
here at the county and

10756
05:53:11,096 --> 05:53:11,204
here at the county and I would   like to

10757
05:53:11,204 --> 05:53:13,829
like to make a motion to go   ahead and

10758
05:53:13,829 --> 05:53:17,225
ahead and proceed that we hold   those dollars from the
Discussion

10759
05:53:17,225 --> 05:53:17,225
ahead and proceed that we hold   those dollars from the
Discussion

10760
05:53:17,225 --> 05:53:19,638
discussion with c watts and that   I

10761
05:53:19,638 --> 05:53:24,226
I could get a second or.  >> thank you,

10762
05:53:24,226 --> 05:53:26,206
>> thank you, three warden, is   to

10763
05:53:26,206 --> 05:53:27,947
to expand a little bit on that

10764
05:53:27,947 --> 05:53:28,599
,   we're referring

10765
05:53:28,599 --> 05:53:29,155
we're referring to a c watts.  Shoulder

10766
05:53:29,155 --> 05:53:31,461
shoulder project in lakeshore   along county

10767
05:53:31,461 --> 05:53:34,479
along county road 42.

10768
05:53:34,479 --> 05:53:35,300
we have approximated the cost to

10769
05:53:35,300 --> 05:53:35,410
be somewhere

10770
05:53:35,410 --> 05:53:43,235
be somewhere between   $625,700,000.

10771
05:53:43,235 --> 05:53:43,235
be somewhere between   $625,700,000.

10772
05:53:43,235 --> 05:53:48,386
it's a cost shared segment   between

10773
05:53:48,386 --> 05:53:49,731
between county and lakeshore.  In

10774
05:53:49,731 --> 05:53:51,150
in this situation we will be   adding

10775
05:53:51,150 --> 05:53:51,367
adding a paved shoulder onto an

10776
05:53:51,367 --> 05:53:51,426
existing

10777
05:53:51,426 --> 05:53:55,095
existing road and be part of our   combined

10778
05:53:55,095 --> 05:53:56,725
combined paving and paved   shoulder project

10779
05:53:56,725 --> 05:53:56,860
shoulder project as a   stand-alone

10780
05:53:56,860 --> 05:53:58,260
stand-alone paved shoulder.

10781
05:53:58,260 --> 05:54:03,071
so, if we went with a number of

10782
05:54:03,071 --> 05:54:05,919
625, the

10783
05:54:05,919 --> 05:54:06,797
625, the county's share would be   approximately

10784
05:54:06,797 --> 05:54:08,937
approximately $375,000.

10785
05:54:08,937 --> 05:54:24,353
>> clerks will craft a motion

10786
05:54:24,353 --> 05:54:24,353
for

10787
05:54:24,353 --> 05:54:26,803
for you to look at before we   move on

10788
05:54:26,803 --> 05:54:28,014
move on, if you're good with   that,

10789
05:54:28,014 --> 05:54:28,119
that, councillor bailey.

10790
05:54:28,119 --> 05:54:49,129
so counsellor if I can draw your   attention

10791
05:54:49,129 --> 05:54:50,867
attention to the motion that   reads that

10792
05:54:50,867 --> 05:54:52,688
reads that essex county council

10793
05:54:52,688 --> 05:54:53,340
reserves

10794
05:54:53,340 --> 05:54:54,044
reserves 375,000 in the   dedicated

10795
05:54:54,044 --> 05:54:56,079
dedicated reserve for the c   watts

10796
05:54:56,079 --> 05:54:57,492
watts program.

10797
05:54:57,492 --> 05:55:00,883
are you good with that?  Looking

10798
05:55:00,883 --> 05:55:01,148
looking for a second or for that

10799
05:55:01,148 --> 05:55:02,643
motion

10800
05:55:02,643 --> 05:55:02,643
motion.

10801
05:55:02,643 --> 05:55:04,656
it's moved by councillor bailey   and

10802
05:55:04,656 --> 05:55:06,243
and seconded by councillor   walstedt

10803
05:55:06,243 --> 05:55:06,243
walstedt.

10804
05:55:06,243 --> 05:55:08,478
any comments or questions in   regards to that

10805
05:55:08,478 --> 05:55:08,535
regards to that motion?

10806
05:55:08,535 --> 05:55:12,013
councillor meloche.  >> I have no

10807
05:55:12,013 --> 05:55:14,654
>> I have no problem reserving   money in

10808
05:55:14,654 --> 05:55:17,881
money in the reserve but I feel

10809
05:55:17,881 --> 05:55:18,111
like

10810
05:55:18,111 --> 05:55:19,359
like I'm lacking a lot of   information

10811
05:55:19,359 --> 05:55:19,467
information regarding the c   watts program

10812
05:55:19,467 --> 05:55:21,127
watts program and where that   falls in the

10813
05:55:21,127 --> 05:55:22,643
falls in the order of   replacement

10814
05:55:22,643 --> 05:55:25,258
replacement or order of items to   be done in

10815
05:55:25,258 --> 05:55:28,504
be done in 2026.  Does

10816
05:55:28,504 --> 05:55:28,608
does not bump someone else that

10817
05:55:28,608 --> 05:55:28,771
we've already

10818
05:55:28,771 --> 05:55:29,367
we've already approved?

10819
05:55:29,367 --> 05:55:32,705
I know we don't have the report   in front

10820
05:55:32,705 --> 05:55:33,357
in front of us so I don't know   that information off

10821
05:55:33,357 --> 05:55:39,591
that information off hand.  >> thank you

10822
05:55:39,591 --> 05:55:42,235
>> thank you, the recommendation

10823
05:55:42,235 --> 05:55:42,341
would be that

10824
05:55:42,341 --> 05:55:44,204
would be that we take this money   from

10825
05:55:44,204 --> 05:55:47,105
from reserves so it wouldn't   impact

10826
05:55:47,105 --> 05:55:47,588
impact any of the other planned   projects we

10827
05:55:47,588 --> 05:55:51,157
projects we have and this   segment

10828
05:55:51,157 --> 05:55:51,968
segment was not intended to be   built for a

10829
05:55:51,968 --> 05:55:53,343
built for a few more years.

10830
05:55:53,343 --> 05:56:03,971
>> does it bump anyone I believe

10831
05:56:03,971 --> 05:56:04,080
was

10832
05:56:04,080 --> 05:56:05,771
was the question, into someone   else's initiative

10833
05:56:05,771 --> 05:56:06,633
else's initiative -- does   someone

10834
05:56:06,633 --> 05:56:06,849
someone else's initiative get   bumped

10835
05:56:06,849 --> 05:56:06,849
bumped?

10836
05:56:06,849 --> 05:56:11,516
>> three warden, that's what I

10837
05:56:11,516 --> 05:56:11,951
was

10838
05:56:11,951 --> 05:56:12,978
was saying, we wouldn't bump any   projects if

10839
05:56:12,978 --> 05:56:14,622
projects if this money is taken   from

10840
05:56:14,622 --> 05:56:16,107
from reserve.

10841
05:56:16,107 --> 05:56:19,001
we would continue with the   planned project

10842
05:56:19,001 --> 05:56:19,108
planned project on this would be

10843
05:56:19,108 --> 05:56:19,215
an additional

10844
05:56:19,215 --> 05:56:20,881
an additional project but I'm   sure melissa

10845
05:56:20,881 --> 05:56:23,774
sure melissa has a comment on

10846
05:56:23,774 --> 05:56:23,774
that

10847
05:56:23,774 --> 05:56:26,885
that.  >> so technically it would
Increase

10848
05:56:26,885 --> 05:56:26,885
that.  >> so technically it would
Increase

10849
05:56:26,885 --> 05:56:32,908
increase the program for 26   however that addition would be

10850
05:56:32,908 --> 05:56:32,908
however that addition would be

10851
05:56:32,908 --> 05:56:33,015
roadway expansion

10852
05:56:33,015 --> 05:56:35,315
roadway expansion funded so it

10853
05:56:35,315 --> 05:56:35,698
would

10854
05:56:35,698 --> 05:56:37,391
would not affect the levy but it   does

10855
05:56:37,391 --> 05:56:38,148
does increase the entire program   because the other projects

10856
05:56:38,148 --> 05:56:38,259
because the other projects are   already in

10857
05:56:38,259 --> 05:56:40,227
already in there and this would   be

10858
05:56:40,227 --> 05:56:43,291
be an additional project added   to that project

10859
05:56:43,291 --> 05:56:43,351
to that project list.

10860
05:56:43,351 --> 05:56:51,934
>> so it wouldn't be coming from

10861
05:56:51,934 --> 05:56:52,091
the c watts reserve is

10862
05:56:52,091 --> 05:56:52,200
the c watts reserve is what   you're saying

10863
05:56:52,200 --> 05:56:55,320
you're saying then?

10864
05:56:55,320 --> 05:57:01,413
>> c watts doesn't utilize the   roadway expansion

10865
05:57:01,413 --> 05:57:01,687
roadway expansion reserve.

10866
05:57:01,687 --> 05:57:03,757
there is not its own specific

10867
05:57:03,757 --> 05:57:03,757
reserve

10868
05:57:03,757 --> 05:57:06,070
reserve yet so it's the roadway

10869
05:57:06,070 --> 05:57:06,334
expansion reserve

10870
05:57:06,334 --> 05:57:06,567
expansion reserve that typically

10871
05:57:06,567 --> 05:57:07,167
funds

10872
05:57:07,167 --> 05:57:07,759
funds then see what -- a portion

10873
05:57:07,759 --> 05:57:07,868
of the program

10874
05:57:07,868 --> 05:57:07,868
of the program.

10875
05:57:07,868 --> 05:57:14,072
so there's no c watts reserve.

10876
05:57:14,072 --> 05:57:14,227
it's roadway expansion.

10877
05:57:14,227 --> 05:57:18,063
>> so further, how much is   enough

10878
05:57:18,063 --> 05:57:18,121
enough reserve?

10879
05:57:18,121 --> 05:57:26,584
>> originally, it was about   56 million anticipated

10880
05:57:26,584 --> 05:57:28,308
56 million anticipated at the

10881
05:57:28,308 --> 05:57:28,308
end

10882
05:57:28,308 --> 05:57:29,230
end of 2026, if all the projects   move

10883
05:57:29,230 --> 05:57:31,498
move forward as they are.  As

10884
05:57:31,498 --> 05:57:32,486
as of right now.

10885
05:57:32,486 --> 05:57:33,850
so there would be about   56 million so any additional

10886
05:57:33,850 --> 05:57:38,080
56 million so any additional   items

10887
05:57:38,080 --> 05:57:39,548
items that get approved would   draw

10888
05:57:39,548 --> 05:57:41,402
draw down on lot 56 million.

10889
05:57:41,402 --> 05:57:49,827
>> are you okay?  Councillor prue

10890
05:57:49,827 --> 05:57:49,827
councillor prue.

10891
05:57:49,827 --> 05:57:53,649
>> I want to make sure before I

10892
05:57:53,649 --> 05:57:53,774
tie up

10893
05:57:53,774 --> 05:57:56,085
tie up $375,000 in the county,

10894
05:57:56,085 --> 05:57:59,462
it's going to cost

10895
05:57:59,462 --> 05:57:59,576
it's going to cost 300,000   approximately

10896
05:57:59,576 --> 05:58:02,698
approximately the lakeshore.

10897
05:58:02,698 --> 05:58:04,990
you have the money?

10898
05:58:04,990 --> 05:58:12,155
and you're willing to spend of   this

10899
05:58:12,155 --> 05:58:12,867
this year that's what this is

10900
05:58:12,867 --> 05:58:12,867
about

10901
05:58:12,867 --> 05:58:12,867
about.

10902
05:58:12,867 --> 05:58:18,083
>> that question will go through   me so I

10903
05:58:18,083 --> 05:58:18,187
me so I will look to you   councillor

10904
05:58:18,187 --> 05:58:21,898
councillor bailey.  >> I'm

10905
05:58:21,898 --> 05:58:22,995
>> I'm a quick learner.  >> 3u

10906
05:58:22,995 --> 05:58:23,225
>> 3u, yes indeed it will be   considered

10907
05:58:23,225 --> 05:58:25,025
considered in the budget   tomorrow

10908
05:58:25,025 --> 05:58:27,586
tomorrow with the municipality

10909
05:58:27,586 --> 05:58:28,141
.  >> in

10910
05:58:28,141 --> 05:58:29,669
>> in your budget you'll put   300,000 in

10911
05:58:29,669 --> 05:58:29,669
300,000 in?

10912
05:58:29,669 --> 05:58:32,731
>> yes so I'm asking the county   to tap

10913
05:58:32,731 --> 05:58:34,042
to tap into their reserves for

10914
05:58:34,042 --> 05:58:37,781
300,000 and we have

10915
05:58:37,781 --> 05:58:38,107
300,000 and we have 56 million   in there.

10916
05:58:38,107 --> 05:58:38,107
300,000 and we have 56 million   in there.

10917
05:58:38,107 --> 05:58:38,213
thank you.

10918
05:58:38,213 --> 05:58:42,499
>> my question is answered and

10919
05:58:42,499 --> 05:58:42,605
you secured my

10920
05:58:42,605 --> 05:58:43,330
you secured my vote.

10921
05:58:43,330 --> 05:58:45,017
>> thank you.

10922
05:58:45,017 --> 05:58:49,064
another question, councillor   deyong

10923
05:58:49,064 --> 05:58:49,064
deyong?

10924
05:58:49,064 --> 05:58:51,356
okay so there are no further   questions

10925
05:58:51,356 --> 05:58:54,037
questions then.

10926
05:58:54,037 --> 05:58:54,860
I'll ask you to vote   electronically

10927
05:58:54,860 --> 05:58:56,499
electronically, please.

10928
05:58:56,499 --> 05:59:24,004
and that's carried.  >>

10929
05:59:24,004 --> 05:59:25,642
>> I would like to bring through   item 14 on our appendix

10930
05:59:25,642 --> 05:59:25,753
item 14 on our appendix three   which is

10931
05:59:25,753 --> 05:59:29,939
which is the traffic signal at   at county

10932
05:59:29,939 --> 05:59:31,313
at county road 20 and martin   lane.

10933
05:59:31,313 --> 05:59:31,313
at county road 20 and martin   lane.

10934
05:59:31,313 --> 05:59:32,082
when study was completed well

10935
05:59:32,082 --> 05:59:32,132
over a year ago I

10936
05:59:32,132 --> 05:59:32,240
over a year ago I guess at the

10937
05:59:32,240 --> 05:59:33,715
time

10938
05:59:33,715 --> 05:59:36,458
time, it was based on traffic

10939
05:59:36,458 --> 05:59:36,458
counts

10940
05:59:36,458 --> 05:59:36,458
counts.  We

10941
05:59:36,458 --> 05:59:38,903
we hadn't changed the way we   evaluated

10942
05:59:38,903 --> 05:59:39,009
evaluated our intersections and

10943
05:59:39,009 --> 05:59:40,112
so I took the

10944
05:59:40,112 --> 05:59:42,739
so I took the time to reach out

10945
05:59:42,739 --> 05:59:43,340
to

10946
05:59:43,340 --> 05:59:44,056
to our police chief to get some   numbers to help us

10947
05:59:44,056 --> 05:59:46,729
numbers to help us understand

10948
05:59:46,729 --> 05:59:46,779
that intersection

10949
05:59:46,779 --> 05:59:47,103
that intersection I'm laughing   it's important that we

10950
05:59:47,103 --> 05:59:47,212
it's important that we install   the

10951
05:59:47,212 --> 05:59:48,368
the signal.

10952
05:59:48,368 --> 05:59:51,042
in january 1st of october 31st   of this year

10953
05:59:51,042 --> 05:59:54,775
of this year, the town of la   la salle

10954
05:59:54,775 --> 05:59:55,099
la salle had a worker can't   traffic

10955
05:59:55,099 --> 05:59:57,171
traffic actions.  Of those,

10956
05:59:57,171 --> 06:00:02,102
of those, 41% were on front road   and

10957
06:00:02,102 --> 06:00:02,444
and 20% occurred right in that

10958
06:00:02,444 --> 06:00:02,550
zone that we're looking

10959
06:00:02,550 --> 06:00:03,635
zone that we're looking at   install this

10960
06:00:03,635 --> 06:00:06,489
install this light that the area

10961
06:00:06,489 --> 06:00:07,367
where the speed

10962
06:00:07,367 --> 06:00:07,571
where the speed limit goes from   70 to

10963
06:00:07,571 --> 06:00:10,648
70 to 50 as we either enter it   la salle

10964
06:00:10,648 --> 06:00:12,607
la salle or leave la salle and   that intersection

10965
06:00:12,607 --> 06:00:16,547
that intersection is 0.3% of the

10966
06:00:16,547 --> 06:00:16,931
total

10967
06:00:16,931 --> 06:00:18,293
total road for the entire town

10968
06:00:18,293 --> 06:00:18,509
yet represents over

10969
06:00:18,509 --> 06:00:19,715
yet represents over 6% of the   traffic actions

10970
06:00:19,715 --> 06:00:19,931
traffic actions that take place   in

10971
06:00:19,931 --> 06:00:20,041
in the town.

10972
06:00:20,041 --> 06:00:23,344
we've also had four accidents at

10973
06:00:23,344 --> 06:00:23,454
that intersection

10974
06:00:23,454 --> 06:00:25,004
that intersection just this year

10975
06:00:25,004 --> 06:00:26,489
alone

10976
06:00:26,489 --> 06:00:28,508
alone, one just past the   intersection

10977
06:00:28,508 --> 06:00:31,288
intersection was a fatality and

10978
06:00:31,288 --> 06:00:31,568
the intersections

10979
06:00:31,568 --> 06:00:32,553
the intersections before and   after have

10980
06:00:32,553 --> 06:00:33,313
after have also seen several   accidents throughout the

10981
06:00:33,313 --> 06:00:34,952
accidents throughout the 2025   year

10982
06:00:34,952 --> 06:00:36,263
year and so, that's a very busy

10983
06:00:36,263 --> 06:00:36,369
intersection for

10984
06:00:36,369 --> 06:00:37,859
intersection for us.

10985
06:00:37,859 --> 06:00:40,529
it's a direct route through the

10986
06:00:40,529 --> 06:00:40,644
town and we find that

10987
06:00:40,644 --> 06:00:42,231
town and we find that people   tend

10988
06:00:42,231 --> 06:00:45,014
tend to speed right through that

10989
06:00:45,014 --> 06:00:45,339
area and

10990
06:00:45,339 --> 06:00:45,676
area and it's very dangerous as   we

10991
06:00:45,676 --> 06:00:48,295
we have a school known that road

10992
06:00:48,295 --> 06:00:49,387
and I watched the

10993
06:00:49,387 --> 06:00:49,495
and I watched the school buses   constantly try to

10994
06:00:49,495 --> 06:00:51,912
constantly try to turn and get

10995
06:00:51,912 --> 06:00:52,290
in

10996
06:00:52,290 --> 06:00:53,662
in through the very high level

10997
06:00:53,662 --> 06:00:54,635
of traffic that

10998
06:00:54,635 --> 06:00:55,084
of traffic that travels from la   la salle to amherstburg

10999
06:00:55,084 --> 06:00:55,194
la salle to amherstburg or vice   vice versa and

11000
06:00:55,194 --> 06:00:57,818
vice versa and so I'm asking for   support from

11001
06:00:57,818 --> 06:01:00,446
support from council today to   approve this intersection

11002
06:01:00,446 --> 06:01:00,446
approve this intersection.

11003
06:01:00,446 --> 06:01:04,701
it's put as an estimated cost of

11004
06:01:04,701 --> 06:01:07,931
500,000.

11005
06:01:07,931 --> 06:01:07,931
500,000.

11006
06:01:07,931 --> 06:01:09,291
and appendix three it asks to be   levy

11007
06:01:09,291 --> 06:01:09,459
levy funded.

11008
06:01:09,459 --> 06:01:11,161
I don't want it to be levy   funded

11009
06:01:11,161 --> 06:01:12,146
funded as we heard, our roadway   expansion reserve

11010
06:01:12,146 --> 06:01:13,672
expansion reserve is hefty and I

11011
06:01:13,672 --> 06:01:13,780
would like

11012
06:01:13,780 --> 06:01:17,346
would like that we funded from

11013
06:01:17,346 --> 06:01:17,720
that reserve and get that

11014
06:01:17,720 --> 06:01:17,826
that reserve and get that   intersection upgraded this

11015
06:01:17,826 --> 06:01:19,035
intersection upgraded this year   and that's my

11016
06:01:19,035 --> 06:01:24,174
and that's my motion.  >> we will come

11017
06:01:24,174 --> 06:01:24,826
>> we will come back to reading

11018
06:01:24,826 --> 06:01:24,885
the

11019
06:01:24,885 --> 06:01:26,132
the full motion butwill  come back

11020
06:01:26,132 --> 06:01:26,193
I see that to reading the   full

11021
06:01:26,193 --> 06:01:26,325
full   melissa

11022
06:01:26,325 --> 06:01:26,808
melissa would like to speak to   it.

11023
06:01:26,808 --> 06:01:26,808
melissa would like to speak to   it.

11024
06:01:26,808 --> 06:01:27,709
melissa motion.

11025
06:01:27,709 --> 06:01:29,134
>> just point of clarification

11026
06:01:29,134 --> 06:01:29,525
.  >> point of clarification

11027
06:01:29,525 --> 06:01:29,525
>> point of clarification.

11028
06:01:29,525 --> 06:01:32,883
,so 6 million although the it's a

11029
06:01:32,883 --> 06:01:33,009
56 million, although it is

11030
06:01:33,009 --> 06:01:34,001
56 million, although it is a   larger dollar

11031
06:01:34,001 --> 06:01:34,351
larger dollar   larger

11032
06:01:34,351 --> 06:01:37,506
larger amount, because of   the

11033
06:01:37,506 --> 06:01:38,317
the roadway expansion plan we   have planned

11034
06:01:38,317 --> 06:01:40,035
have planned over the next 20   years

11035
06:01:40,035 --> 06:01:41,965
years, it will be depleted as of

11036
06:01:41,965 --> 06:01:43,465
2028.

11037
06:01:43,465 --> 06:01:43,465
2028.

11038
06:01:43,465 --> 06:01:46,091
just don't want it to be -- we

11039
06:01:46,091 --> 06:01:47,565
are

11040
06:01:47,565 --> 06:01:52,487
are nearing that target, I just   wanted

11041
06:01:52,487 --> 06:01:53,633
wanted to add that.

11042
06:01:53,633 --> 06:01:53,857
>> any other comments or   questions

11043
06:01:53,857 --> 06:01:53,857
questions?

11044
06:01:53,857 --> 06:02:05,329
we are already updated,.  >> so it

11045
06:02:05,329 --> 06:02:06,863
>> so it will be approved for   funding for the

11046
06:02:06,863 --> 06:02:07,522
funding for the expansion   reserve

11047
06:02:07,522 --> 06:02:09,975
reserve in 2026 and that is   moved by councillor

11048
06:02:09,975 --> 06:02:10,089
moved by councillor meloche,   looking for a

11049
06:02:10,089 --> 06:02:17,536
looking for a second.

11050
06:02:17,536 --> 06:02:17,536
deputy?

11051
06:02:17,536 --> 06:02:24,574
I will ask you to vote   electronically,

11052
06:02:24,574 --> 06:02:26,209
electronically, please.

11053
06:02:26,209 --> 06:02:44,777
that is carried.

11054
06:02:44,777 --> 06:02:48,993
deputy warden, do you have   something

11055
06:02:48,993 --> 06:02:50,850
something you wanted to bring

11056
06:02:50,850 --> 06:02:50,850
forward?

11057
06:02:50,850 --> 06:02:50,850
forward?

11058
06:02:50,850 --> 06:02:52,328
>> just a question through the   chief,

11059
06:02:52,328 --> 06:02:53,042
chief, I know the rank order   hear that

11060
06:02:53,042 --> 06:02:57,248
hear that business states, so   far

11061
06:02:57,248 --> 06:03:02,653
far we have approved numbers one  one,

11062
06:03:02,653 --> 06:03:03,501
one, can you get the correct   numbers

11063
06:03:03,501 --> 06:03:03,557
numbers that were approved?  

11064
06:03:03,557 --> 06:03:03,557
?

11065
06:03:03,557 --> 06:03:09,732
there are two numbers.

11066
06:03:09,732 --> 06:03:22,914
>> they are listed on the screen

11067
06:03:22,914 --> 06:03:23,621
here,

11068
06:03:23,621 --> 06:03:27,386
here, 918, line 19, line 23, 24,   line

11069
06:03:27,386 --> 06:03:36,007
line one, line five and 14.

11070
06:03:36,007 --> 06:03:39,883
>> community programs   coordinator,

11071
06:03:39,883 --> 06:03:41,538
coordinator, was that one of   them

11072
06:03:41,538 --> 06:03:45,027
them and the command of   operations

11073
06:03:45,027 --> 06:03:45,253
operations, was that one of them

11074
06:03:45,253 --> 06:03:45,253
  them?

11075
06:03:45,253 --> 06:03:45,253
  them?

11076
06:03:45,253 --> 06:03:49,788
what about the second vehicle

11077
06:03:49,788 --> 06:03:49,849
service technician

11078
06:03:49,849 --> 06:03:49,849
service technician?

11079
06:03:49,849 --> 06:03:55,121
okay, I would like to see in   terms of health care dollars

11080
06:03:55,121 --> 06:03:55,176
terms of health care dollars, I

11081
06:03:55,176 --> 06:03:56,764
know we

11082
06:03:56,764 --> 06:03:58,408
know we the furred kept the   budget for

11083
06:03:58,408 --> 06:04:01,027
budget for the hospital grant   the same rate is

11084
06:04:01,027 --> 06:04:03,575
the same rate is 2025 and I know   that there

11085
06:04:03,575 --> 06:04:07,845
that there were six or seven   cases

11086
06:04:07,845 --> 06:04:08,738
cases that were presented by the   chief

11087
06:04:08,738 --> 06:04:09,787
chief, if I can ask the chief of   the

11088
06:04:09,787 --> 06:04:11,471
the ones that have been approved

11089
06:04:11,471 --> 06:04:12,346
if there's one market

11090
06:04:12,346 --> 06:04:12,454
if there's one market will elect   to

11091
06:04:12,454 --> 06:04:18,420
to see one more at this year's

11092
06:04:18,420 --> 06:04:19,241
budget to compensate the health 
Health care

11093
06:04:19,241 --> 06:04:19,241
budget to compensate the health 
Health care

11094
06:04:19,241 --> 06:04:19,300
health care dollars for health   health care

11095
06:04:19,300 --> 06:04:22,978
health care's without ems has   the support and

11096
06:04:22,978 --> 06:04:24,500
the support and resources they   were

11097
06:04:24,500 --> 06:04:25,491
were asking for.

11098
06:04:25,491 --> 06:04:29,969
I'm not sure if it item two or   three that the chief

11099
06:04:29,969 --> 06:04:30,028
three that the chief could speak

11100
06:04:30,028 --> 06:04:31,552
to

11101
06:04:31,552 --> 06:04:33,906
to, if he had to pick one more,

11102
06:04:33,906 --> 06:04:34,290
I

11103
06:04:34,290 --> 06:04:34,563
I would like to put that word is   a

11104
06:04:34,563 --> 06:04:36,035
a motion.

11105
06:04:36,035 --> 06:04:46,523
>> through you warden, and   discussions

11106
06:04:46,523 --> 06:04:46,731
discussions with the team,   commander of operations

11107
06:04:46,731 --> 06:04:52,581
commander of operations line   three

11108
06:04:52,581 --> 06:04:53,296
three.  >> may be can

11109
06:04:53,296 --> 06:04:54,489
>> may be can you share why that

11110
06:04:54,489 --> 06:04:55,159
would be important and how it

11111
06:04:55,159 --> 06:04:56,736
would be important and how it

11112
06:04:56,736 --> 06:04:56,791
would impact

11113
06:04:56,791 --> 06:04:59,100
would impact your delivery of   service

11114
06:04:59,100 --> 06:05:00,204
service.  >> the operations

11115
06:05:00,204 --> 06:05:02,929
>> the operations department   right now is staffed

11116
06:05:02,929 --> 06:05:04,243
right now is staffed by the   deputy chief

11117
06:05:04,243 --> 06:05:07,528
deputy chief and frontline   supervisors

11118
06:05:07,528 --> 06:05:07,746
supervisors.  The debate if

11119
06:05:07,746 --> 06:05:09,878
the debate if chief is monday

11120
06:05:09,878 --> 06:05:09,938
to   friday and the

11121
06:05:09,938 --> 06:05:11,575
friday and the others are on the   shift

11122
06:05:11,575 --> 06:05:11,575
shift.

11123
06:05:11,575 --> 06:05:17,440
..they work monday, tuesday,   these

11124
06:05:17,440 --> 06:05:18,488
these are nights, off wednesday

11125
06:05:18,488 --> 06:05:18,645
thursday

11126
06:05:18,645 --> 06:05:19,469
thursday, or on the weekend.  We

11127
06:05:19,469 --> 06:05:21,586
we don't have a running support

11128
06:05:21,586 --> 06:05:22,228
for the

11129
06:05:22,228 --> 06:05:23,435
for the deputy chief to be able   to follow

11130
06:05:23,435 --> 06:05:24,634
to follow through on things.  Summit he

11131
06:05:24,634 --> 06:05:26,334
summit he starts working   something

11132
06:05:26,334 --> 06:05:30,538
something up on monday, tuesday

11133
06:05:30,538 --> 06:05:30,760
then the off-line...

11134
06:05:30,760 --> 06:05:30,818
then the off-line...  May be to   have

11135
06:05:30,818 --> 06:05:33,667
have the we can off, falling   back

11136
06:05:33,667 --> 06:05:34,056
back on the deputy chief,   there's no support

11137
06:05:34,056 --> 06:05:37,099
there's no support on constant   monday

11138
06:05:37,099 --> 06:05:39,314
monday to friday to allow him to   function and

11139
06:05:39,314 --> 06:05:41,281
function and to stay on top of   operational

11140
06:05:41,281 --> 06:05:41,660
operational issues.

11141
06:05:41,660 --> 06:05:43,626
it's a fast moving service 24/7

11142
06:05:43,626 --> 06:05:44,663
,   things are happening

11143
06:05:44,663 --> 06:05:45,337
things are happening every day,

11144
06:05:45,337 --> 06:05:45,661
day and night.
It

11145
06:05:45,661 --> 06:05:45,661
day and night.
It

11146
06:05:45,661 --> 06:05:49,266
it provide some capacity.  >> thank you.

11147
06:05:49,266 --> 06:05:49,266
it provide some capacity.  >> thank you.

11148
06:05:49,266 --> 06:05:51,017
I'll put that word is a motion   to

11149
06:05:51,017 --> 06:05:57,148
to include -- the volume of   calls have increased

11150
06:05:57,148 --> 06:05:57,214
calls have increased   significantly and I

11151
06:05:57,214 --> 06:05:59,326
significantly and I believe we   need to

11152
06:05:59,326 --> 06:06:01,952
need to provide support for this   operation

11153
06:06:01,952 --> 06:06:01,952
operation.

11154
06:06:01,952 --> 06:06:06,155
I'll delete make that as a   motion

11155
06:06:06,155 --> 06:06:18,297
motion.  >> that

11156
06:06:18,297 --> 06:06:19,941
>> that motion is that the   command

11157
06:06:19,941 --> 06:06:20,010
command of operations be added   to

11158
06:06:20,010 --> 06:06:24,045
to the 2026 essex-windsor budget

11159
06:06:24,045 --> 06:06:24,045
  budget...

11160
06:06:24,045 --> 06:06:27,125
budget...  The treasurer's   report to be divided

11161
06:06:27,125 --> 06:06:30,766
report to be divided with the   weight of assistant formula that

11162
06:06:30,766 --> 06:06:30,766
weight of assistant formula that

11163
06:06:30,766 --> 06:06:30,903
is moved

11164
06:06:30,903 --> 06:06:33,886
is moved by counsellor deputy   warden

11165
06:06:33,886 --> 06:06:35,477
warden looking for a

11166
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477
warden looking for a

11167
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477
warden looking for a

11168
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477


11169
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477


11170
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477


11171
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:35,477


11172
06:06:35,477 --> 06:06:41,192
second,   councillor mcnamara.

11173
06:06:41,192 --> 06:06:41,192
second,   councillor mcnamara.

11174
06:06:41,192 --> 06:06:43,108
I'm asking you to vote   electronically

11175
06:06:43,108 --> 06:06:49,914
electronically, please.

11176
06:06:49,914 --> 06:06:58,974
>> -- I was -- at this point I

11177
06:06:58,974 --> 06:07:00,460
believe

11178
06:07:00,460 --> 06:07:03,704
believe that this is 12 staff   members that

11179
06:07:03,704 --> 06:07:06,344
members that will be asking the   city

11180
06:07:06,344 --> 06:07:10,229
city to cofund at 50 percent,

11181
06:07:10,229 --> 06:07:10,229
correct

11182
06:07:10,229 --> 06:07:10,229
correct?

11183
06:07:10,229 --> 06:07:16,856
overall, from the county, there   were

11184
06:07:16,856 --> 06:07:16,973
were 11 positions and added back

11185
06:07:16,973 --> 06:07:17,029
in

11186
06:07:17,029 --> 06:07:20,898
in with the pad coordinator so   that

11187
06:07:20,898 --> 06:07:27,468
that would be 12 and then I   believe that

11188
06:07:27,468 --> 06:07:27,859
believe that said.

11189
06:07:27,859 --> 06:07:28,129
that's it for positions however   from

11190
06:07:28,129 --> 06:07:32,296
from that there were few human

11191
06:07:32,296 --> 06:07:32,352
resources position

11192
06:07:32,352 --> 06:07:33,387
resources position, oneness have   between

11193
06:07:33,387 --> 06:07:37,059
between ems and halfs and part

11194
06:07:37,059 --> 06:07:37,618
of

11195
06:07:37,618 --> 06:07:37,890
of our homes.

11196
06:07:37,890 --> 06:07:39,100
the 25% of that portion would be

11197
06:07:39,100 --> 06:07:39,232
covered by the

11198
06:07:39,232 --> 06:07:40,256
covered by the city

11199
06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:40,256
covered by the city

11200
06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:40,256
covered by the city

11201
06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:40,256
.

11202
06:07:40,256 --> 06:07:44,191
in the ms positions would be   that way

11203
06:07:44,191 --> 06:07:46,545
that way of assessment.  >> thank you for that

11204
06:07:46,545 --> 06:07:46,545
>> thank you for that.

11205
06:07:46,545 --> 06:07:51,148
I know it's great work and I   know overtime is going to

11206
06:07:51,148 --> 06:07:53,552
know overtime is going to be   needed.
We are really

11207
06:07:53,552 --> 06:07:53,552
know overtime is going to be   needed.
We are really

11208
06:07:53,552 --> 06:07:56,658
we are really looking out at to

11209
06:07:56,658 --> 06:07:56,771
eat an

11210
06:07:56,771 --> 06:07:56,880
eat an elephant because we saw   the master

11211
06:07:56,880 --> 06:08:00,108
the master plans and the cost   needed for

11212
06:08:00,108 --> 06:08:01,313
needed for services like these.

11213
06:08:01,313 --> 06:08:03,719
these are hard ones to deal with   the

11214
06:08:03,719 --> 06:08:04,434
is

11215
06:08:04,434 --> 06:08:05,909
is numbers of council.  Were trying

11216
06:08:05,909 --> 06:08:07,444
were trying to eat too many   pieces

11217
06:08:07,444 --> 06:08:07,444
pieces.  Certainly

11218
06:08:07,444 --> 06:08:08,421
certainly bridging the gap makes

11219
06:08:08,421 --> 06:08:09,189
sense but during

11220
06:08:09,189 --> 06:08:10,395
sense but during the gap to this

11221
06:08:10,395 --> 06:08:11,860
extent

11222
06:08:11,860 --> 06:08:13,682
extent and one fiscal calendar   year

11223
06:08:13,682 --> 06:08:14,895
year I think it's a whole lot   did you

11224
06:08:14,895 --> 06:08:15,104
did you.  I'm going to be

11225
06:08:15,104 --> 06:08:16,969
I'm going to be opposing the   motion on

11226
06:08:16,969 --> 06:08:20,704
motion on the table.  >> thank you.

11227
06:08:20,704 --> 06:08:20,704
motion on the table.  >> thank you.

11228
06:08:20,704 --> 06:08:21,637
councillor prue?

11229
06:08:21,637 --> 06:08:26,711
>> as I said to a few people   today I've

11230
06:08:26,711 --> 06:08:27,038
today I've never been to a   budget like this

11231
06:08:27,038 --> 06:08:30,163
budget like this before in my 30   some years

11232
06:08:30,163 --> 06:08:33,446
some years where everybody is

11233
06:08:33,446 --> 06:08:33,446
adding

11234
06:08:33,446 --> 06:08:33,837
adding into the budget.  Usually

11235
06:08:33,837 --> 06:08:37,716
usually cancels it around --   council

11236
06:08:37,716 --> 06:08:41,635
council sit around and put it

11237
06:08:41,635 --> 06:08:41,691
at   an acceptable

11238
06:08:41,691 --> 06:08:41,748
an acceptable level.

11239
06:08:41,748 --> 06:08:45,592
right now it's acceptable at   2.25.

11240
06:08:45,592 --> 06:08:45,592
right now it's acceptable at   2.25.

11241
06:08:45,592 --> 06:08:51,136
I understand what the ms wants,   I understand and

11242
06:08:51,136 --> 06:08:51,196
I understand and appreciate what   they

11243
06:08:51,196 --> 06:08:52,725
they want.

11244
06:08:52,725 --> 06:08:55,636
my wife and I both used their   service

11245
06:08:55,636 --> 06:08:56,933
service in the last two years,   they are excellent

11246
06:08:56,933 --> 06:08:58,519
they are excellent but I want

11247
06:08:58,519 --> 06:08:59,237
to   tell you,

11248
06:08:59,237 --> 06:08:59,393
tell you, when you have a wish

11249
06:08:59,393 --> 06:09:00,811
list

11250
06:09:00,811 --> 06:09:02,237
list that is vetted by senior   management

11251
06:09:02,237 --> 06:09:05,413
management and is not there for   a

11252
06:09:05,413 --> 06:09:08,861
a reason, it's not there because   they

11253
06:09:08,861 --> 06:09:10,063
they didn't feel they could do   it

11254
06:09:10,063 --> 06:09:10,565
it and come in with a budget   that

11255
06:09:10,565 --> 06:09:13,350
that was reasonable.  Had never seen

11256
06:09:13,350 --> 06:09:14,985
had never seen anyone just go,

11257
06:09:14,985 --> 06:09:15,524
right down

11258
06:09:15,524 --> 06:09:18,207
right down the list and say they

11259
06:09:18,207 --> 06:09:18,713
want all these

11260
06:09:18,713 --> 06:09:19,688
want all these things can just   give it

11261
06:09:19,688 --> 06:09:20,021
give it to them.  I

11262
06:09:20,021 --> 06:09:20,079
I have never seen it.

11263
06:09:20,079 --> 06:09:22,750
no conscience even though it   might

11264
06:09:22,750 --> 06:09:26,035
might be valuable, it will still   be

11265
06:09:26,035 --> 06:09:26,573
be there next year and if we   have the

11266
06:09:26,573 --> 06:09:29,641
have the money next year then we

11267
06:09:29,641 --> 06:09:29,702
should

11268
06:09:29,702 --> 06:09:31,227
should spend it then.

11269
06:09:31,227 --> 06:09:33,075
I don't often care what happens

11270
06:09:33,075 --> 06:09:33,698
because they

11271
06:09:33,698 --> 06:09:36,976
because they don't treat us very   almost often but I

11272
06:09:36,976 --> 06:09:37,033
almost often but I can   understand

11273
06:09:37,033 --> 06:09:39,154
understand what councillor   bailey's

11274
06:09:39,154 --> 06:09:42,392
bailey's house to say here.

11275
06:09:42,392 --> 06:09:47,272
you go and tell them...  Is not   going to

11276
06:09:47,272 --> 06:09:49,241
going to bode well to continue   negotiations

11277
06:09:49,241 --> 06:09:51,966
negotiations if they ever do   take

11278
06:09:51,966 --> 06:09:53,490
take place.

11279
06:09:53,490 --> 06:09:54,210
I don't think it's the wrong way   to

11280
06:09:54,210 --> 06:09:57,382
to do it.  I appreciate

11281
06:09:57,382 --> 06:09:58,960
I appreciate it's on the wish

11282
06:09:58,960 --> 06:09:58,960
list

11283
06:09:58,960 --> 06:09:59,841
list but not all wishes come   true

11284
06:09:59,841 --> 06:09:59,841
true.  All

11285
06:09:59,841 --> 06:10:05,415
all not -- I will now be   supporting

11286
06:10:05,415 --> 06:10:08,751
supporting this.  >> I am not sure if

11287
06:10:08,751 --> 06:10:08,872
>> I am not sure if adding that

11288
06:10:08,872 --> 06:10:10,329
position

11289
06:10:10,329 --> 06:10:12,756
position like to point to 5%   right

11290
06:10:12,756 --> 06:10:15,851
right now, do we know what it   would be if we

11291
06:10:15,851 --> 06:10:17,433
would be if we added this   position

11292
06:10:17,433 --> 06:10:17,433
position?

11293
06:10:17,433 --> 06:10:20,120
as I understand, I'm seeing both   sides,

11294
06:10:20,120 --> 06:10:21,061
sides, I really am.

11295
06:10:21,061 --> 06:10:23,323
it's a bit of a hard one for me

11296
06:10:23,323 --> 06:10:24,312
because I

11297
06:10:24,312 --> 06:10:30,762
because I supported ems, I see   there is

11298
06:10:30,762 --> 06:10:34,210
there is so much value added and

11299
06:10:34,210 --> 06:10:34,487
everyone over

11300
06:10:34,487 --> 06:10:34,545
everyone over family members and   ourselves are

11301
06:10:34,545 --> 06:10:35,792
ourselves are going to need them   at some

11302
06:10:35,792 --> 06:10:37,281
at some point.

11303
06:10:37,281 --> 06:10:40,342
I am inclined to support this

11304
06:10:40,342 --> 06:10:40,342
because

11305
06:10:40,342 --> 06:10:41,450
because I have always supported

11306
06:10:41,450 --> 06:10:43,010
ems

11307
06:10:43,010 --> 06:10:46,068
ems and if it's not supported

11308
06:10:46,068 --> 06:10:46,124
I   do hope

11309
06:10:46,124 --> 06:10:46,182
do hope that

11310
06:10:46,182 --> 06:10:46,182
do hope that

11311
06:10:46,182 --> 06:10:46,182
do hope that

11312
06:10:46,182 --> 06:10:48,747
our chief may bring   it

11313
06:10:48,747 --> 06:10:53,176
it back to us, it's an extra   need.

11314
06:10:53,176 --> 06:10:53,176
it back to us, it's an extra   need.

11315
06:10:53,176 --> 06:10:53,449
I do believe that administration   came to

11316
06:10:53,449 --> 06:10:58,282
came to us with a really   low-budget

11317
06:10:58,282 --> 06:10:59,488
low-budget because they read the   room

11318
06:10:59,488 --> 06:11:01,619
room, it's an election year, the

11319
06:11:01,619 --> 06:11:02,216
red the

11320
06:11:02,216 --> 06:11:02,540
red the room and they wanted to

11321
06:11:02,540 --> 06:11:02,597
get as

11322
06:11:02,597 --> 06:11:07,472
get as many of their things past   as

11323
06:11:07,472 --> 06:11:08,447
as they could but I believe   administration

11324
06:11:08,447 --> 06:11:09,650
administration pulled a lot of   items

11325
06:11:09,650 --> 06:11:09,926
items out of the budget to get   that

11326
06:11:09,926 --> 06:11:13,994
that around 3%.

11327
06:11:13,994 --> 06:11:15,793
do I think there is some needs

11328
06:11:15,793 --> 06:11:16,340
in the list

11329
06:11:16,340 --> 06:11:19,727
in the list that -- or someone

11330
06:11:19,727 --> 06:11:24,594
's   --

11331
06:11:24,594 --> 06:11:26,244
-- I don't know, I don't want to   slip

11332
06:11:26,244 --> 06:11:28,047
slip backwards and we are going

11333
06:11:28,047 --> 06:11:28,165
in the

11334
06:11:28,165 --> 06:11:29,689
in the right direction.

11335
06:11:29,689 --> 06:11:30,951
did I talk long enough to get   you

11336
06:11:30,951 --> 06:11:32,481
you that number?  No

11337
06:11:32,481 --> 06:11:32,481
no?

11338
06:11:32,481 --> 06:11:41,444
>> through you warden, adding

11339
06:11:41,444 --> 06:11:41,499
that position would move

11340
06:11:41,499 --> 06:11:41,564
that position would move us from

11341
06:11:41,564 --> 06:11:46,532
2.25% to

11342
06:11:46,532 --> 06:11:48,110
2.25% to 3.2%.

11343
06:11:48,110 --> 06:11:50,081
the tax policy doesn't get   approved

11344
06:11:50,081 --> 06:11:51,681
approved until february so that

11345
06:11:51,681 --> 06:11:53,165
can

11346
06:11:53,165 --> 06:11:55,299
can slightly change.

11347
06:11:55,299 --> 06:11:56,899
as it stands right now we would   meet moving from

11348
06:11:56,899 --> 06:12:03,871
meet moving from 2.25% to 2.32%

11349
06:12:03,871 --> 06:12:05,486
.  >> anyone else

11350
06:12:05,486 --> 06:12:07,006
>> anyone else?  In that case

11351
06:12:07,006 --> 06:12:08,106
in that case will ask you to   both electronically

11352
06:12:08,106 --> 06:12:10,347
both electronically, please, for   the motion

11353
06:12:10,347 --> 06:12:10,347
the motion.

11354
06:12:10,347 --> 06:12:26,877
and that is lost.  Councillor deyong?

11355
06:12:26,877 --> 06:12:26,877
and that is lost.  Councillor deyong?

11356
06:12:26,877 --> 06:12:30,037
>> may be last but not least I

11357
06:12:30,037 --> 06:12:30,150
would like to make

11358
06:12:30,150 --> 06:12:33,713
would like to make a motion for

11359
06:12:33,713 --> 06:12:34,687
appendix

11360
06:12:34,687 --> 06:12:41,364
appendix three.  >> it's the

11361
06:12:41,364 --> 06:12:44,316
>> it's the traffic signal   signal county

11362
06:12:44,316 --> 06:12:51,821
signal county 23.

11363
06:12:51,821 --> 06:13:10,769
>> just to confirm roadway   expansion

11364
06:13:10,769 --> 06:13:10,769
expansion.

11365
06:13:10,769 --> 06:13:38,002
so the motion is that the   traffic

11366
06:13:38,002 --> 06:13:43,647
traffic signal be added to the

11367
06:13:43,647 --> 06:13:44,301
2026 infrastructure and

11368
06:13:44,301 --> 06:13:44,358
2026 infrastructure and planning   services

11369
06:13:44,358 --> 06:13:47,696
services budget is outlined on   line

11370
06:13:47,696 --> 06:13:49,329
line ten of the appendix three   of the

11371
06:13:49,329 --> 06:13:49,984
of the treasury's report and   that

11372
06:13:49,984 --> 06:13:53,367
that is moved by counsellor the   young looking for a

11373
06:13:53,367 --> 06:13:53,424
young looking for a seconder.  Councillor

11374
06:13:53,424 --> 06:13:56,487
councillor meloche?

11375
06:13:56,487 --> 06:14:00,596
[simultaneous talking]

11376
06:14:00,596 --> 06:14:02,404
>> a la it over again, sorry.

11377
06:14:02,404 --> 06:14:06,181
revised, refreshed, is the   motion that

11378
06:14:06,181 --> 06:14:07,760
motion that the traffic signal

11379
06:14:07,760 --> 06:14:10,263
be

11380
06:14:10,263 --> 06:14:12,904
be approved and funded from the

11381
06:14:12,904 --> 06:14:12,959
road

11382
06:14:12,959 --> 06:14:17,594
road to expansion reserving 2026  2026.

11383
06:14:17,594 --> 06:14:17,594
road to expansion reserving 2026  2026.

11384
06:14:17,594 --> 06:14:17,824
that is moved by councillor   deyong and

11385
06:14:17,824 --> 06:14:24,979
deyong and second by councillor

11386
06:14:24,979 --> 06:14:25,806
meloche

11387
06:14:25,806 --> 06:14:30,227
meloche.  >> may be you

11388
06:14:30,227 --> 06:14:30,673
>> may be you will have deja vu

11389
06:14:30,673 --> 06:14:30,997
from a

11390
06:14:30,997 --> 06:14:31,754
from a few minutes ago, but I'll   try to keep

11391
06:14:31,754 --> 06:14:33,354
try to keep it specific.  From

11392
06:14:33,354 --> 06:14:36,339
from the comments on the report

11393
06:14:36,339 --> 06:14:36,524
there has been 19 collisions

11394
06:14:36,524 --> 06:14:36,584
there has been 19 collisions   including a

11395
06:14:36,584 --> 06:14:38,590
including a fatality and   multiple major

11396
06:14:38,590 --> 06:14:40,060
multiple major injuries.

11397
06:14:40,060 --> 06:14:43,236
the intersection already has   oversight

11398
06:14:43,236 --> 06:14:43,733
oversight stop signs and   flashing

11399
06:14:43,733 --> 06:14:45,425
flashing red beacons that are

11400
06:14:45,425 --> 06:14:45,483
not preventing

11401
06:14:45,483 --> 06:14:48,995
not preventing these incidences.  At

11402
06:14:48,995 --> 06:14:52,990
at the stretch of road is pretty

11403
06:14:52,990 --> 06:14:53,431
much

11404
06:14:53,431 --> 06:14:54,036
much a clear way connecting   kingsville

11405
06:14:54,036 --> 06:14:56,706
kingsville to harrow, there's

11406
06:14:56,706 --> 06:14:56,764
not anything really slowing
People

11407
06:14:56,764 --> 06:14:56,764
not anything really slowing
People

11408
06:14:56,764 --> 06:15:00,760
people down the hall stretch and

11409
06:15:00,760 --> 06:15:01,417
in

11410
06:15:01,417 --> 06:15:02,891
in addition to the faculty at   the actual intersection

11411
06:15:02,891 --> 06:15:03,879
the actual intersection there   has

11412
06:15:03,879 --> 06:15:05,293
has been two deaths just this   year

11413
06:15:05,293 --> 06:15:05,901
year on either side of this   intersection

11414
06:15:05,901 --> 06:15:05,901
intersection.  I

11415
06:15:05,901 --> 06:15:11,386
I think having a light that   makes

11416
06:15:11,386 --> 06:15:11,720
makes people aware that this is   a

11417
06:15:11,720 --> 06:15:15,680
a place where other things   happened besides just a

11418
06:15:15,680 --> 06:15:15,834
happened besides just a straight   through

11419
06:15:15,834 --> 06:15:22,080
through will make that safer   because people

11420
06:15:22,080 --> 06:15:22,137
because people will have to slow   down

11421
06:15:22,137 --> 06:15:25,853
down for the site and against

11422
06:15:25,853 --> 06:15:25,909
at   something similarly

11423
06:15:25,909 --> 06:15:27,447
something similarly funded but   does it say

11424
06:15:27,447 --> 06:15:33,798
does it say one time expense.  >> any comments or questions

11425
06:15:33,798 --> 06:15:33,798
>> any comments or questions?

11426
06:15:33,798 --> 06:15:36,092
councillor bailey.  >> I

11427
06:15:36,092 --> 06:15:38,675
>> I was feverishly trying to go   through my other

11428
06:15:38,675 --> 06:15:41,611
through my other notes from my

11429
06:15:41,611 --> 06:15:42,439
briefcase because

11430
06:15:42,439 --> 06:15:43,201
briefcase because I do believe

11431
06:15:43,201 --> 06:15:43,365
that

11432
06:15:43,365 --> 06:15:43,751
that this was assessed and it   was

11433
06:15:43,751 --> 06:15:47,684
was on the list that we received   but

11434
06:15:47,684 --> 06:15:47,744
but I'm wondering where it was

11435
06:15:47,744 --> 06:15:47,916
at on that

11436
06:15:47,916 --> 06:15:50,755
at on that list.  >> page

11437
06:15:50,755 --> 06:15:53,696
>> page 33, number 10.  >> sorry, I

11438
06:15:53,696 --> 06:15:55,335
>> sorry, I was referring to the   project

11439
06:15:55,335 --> 06:16:00,493
project list.  And will turn

11440
06:16:00,493 --> 06:16:12,226
and will turn to the director.

11441
06:16:12,226 --> 06:16:12,226


11442
06:16:12,226 --> 06:16:28,000
>> through you, I think I found

11443
06:16:28,000 --> 06:16:28,777
it

11444
06:16:28,777 --> 06:16:29,443
it here, number 42 on that   vehicle

11445
06:16:29,443 --> 06:16:30,303
vehicle list.

11446
06:16:30,303 --> 06:16:33,848
I think my only question would   be

11447
06:16:33,848 --> 06:16:36,947
be when these were ranked as the   top 100 intersections

11448
06:16:36,947 --> 06:16:37,003
top 100 intersections, they were

11449
06:16:37,003 --> 06:16:38,377
ranked in a

11450
06:16:38,377 --> 06:16:41,147
ranked in a priority reading of   this

11451
06:16:41,147 --> 06:16:42,622
this number.  I

11452
06:16:42,622 --> 06:16:51,589
I see it sounded appendix b, I

11453
06:16:51,589 --> 06:16:52,410
see it was ranked significantly

11454
06:16:52,410 --> 06:16:52,410
see it was ranked significantly

11455
06:16:52,410 --> 06:16:53,282
lower than many

11456
06:16:53,282 --> 06:16:53,948
lower than many of the others so   I'm just wondering

11457
06:16:53,948 --> 06:16:54,000
I'm just wondering if you can   speak

11458
06:16:54,000 --> 06:17:06,730
speak to that.  >> do you want to

11459
06:17:06,730 --> 06:17:11,373
>> do you want to speak too?

11460
06:17:11,373 --> 06:17:13,142
>> I remember we have dollars

11461
06:17:13,142 --> 06:17:15,554
in   --

11462
06:17:15,554 --> 06:17:17,763
-- for the design of it in 2025,

11463
06:17:17,763 --> 06:17:17,877
so maybe that's why

11464
06:17:17,877 --> 06:17:19,512
so maybe that's why it's on a

11465
06:17:19,512 --> 06:17:19,512
project

11466
06:17:19,512 --> 06:17:20,333
project last seen but we do have   the

11467
06:17:20,333 --> 06:17:22,516
the design dollars, this would   be the

11468
06:17:22,516 --> 06:17:24,994
be the construction dollars from

11469
06:17:24,994 --> 06:17:25,482
my understanding

11470
06:17:25,482 --> 06:17:26,685
my understanding when we had a   conversation

11471
06:17:26,685 --> 06:17:27,004
conversation around this because   I

11472
06:17:27,004 --> 06:17:27,298
I did see it on the report.

11473
06:17:27,298 --> 06:17:30,363
it was designed dollars not   construction

11474
06:17:30,363 --> 06:17:31,874
construction dollars.

11475
06:17:31,874 --> 06:17:37,043
>> do we still need an answer

11476
06:17:37,043 --> 06:17:37,107
or   are you

11477
06:17:37,107 --> 06:17:38,571
are you okay?

11478
06:17:38,571 --> 06:17:41,198
thanks for looking, allen.

11479
06:17:41,198 --> 06:17:45,351
no other questions then?

11480
06:17:45,351 --> 06:17:47,200
can we get a seconder?

11481
06:17:47,200 --> 06:17:51,667
I did not write it down, who was   it

11482
06:17:51,667 --> 06:17:51,667
it?

11483
06:17:51,667 --> 06:18:03,343
we are looking to --

11484
06:18:03,343 --> 06:18:03,343
[indiscernible]

11485
06:18:03,343 --> 06:18:07,086
all right, then we are looking   to vote

11486
06:18:07,086 --> 06:18:08,711
to vote on the motion.

11487
06:18:08,711 --> 06:18:30,167
that is carried, thank you.

11488
06:18:30,167 --> 06:18:35,083
so, are there any other   additions

11489
06:18:35,083 --> 06:18:35,083
additions?  If

11490
06:18:35,083 --> 06:18:37,866
if not, we are at the point in   time

11491
06:18:37,866 --> 06:18:40,672
time where we could actually

11492
06:18:40,672 --> 06:18:42,363
vote for the final budget.  There is recommendation

11493
06:18:42,363 --> 06:18:45,339
there is recommendation that the   essex county

11494
06:18:45,339 --> 06:18:51,560
essex county council...    Approves the amount

11495
06:18:51,560 --> 06:18:59,709
approves the amount of -- do you   have a

11496
06:18:59,709 --> 06:18:59,771
have a final number?

11497
06:18:59,771 --> 06:18:59,771
okay.

11498
06:18:59,771 --> 06:19:09,995
it got smaller, hang on a second  second.
A hundred

11499
06:19:09,995 --> 06:19:09,995
it got smaller, hang on a second  second.
A hundred

11500
06:19:09,995 --> 06:19:15,057
a hundred and 45 million,   hundred and

11501
06:19:15,057 --> 06:19:19,164
hundred and 44,000, 150.

11502
06:19:19,164 --> 06:19:21,954
>> what she said.

11503
06:19:21,954 --> 06:19:25,671
looking for a mover and seconder

11504
06:19:25,671 --> 06:19:25,671
  seconder.

11505
06:19:25,671 --> 06:19:25,671
  seconder.

11506
06:19:25,671 --> 06:19:30,590
any discussion on the motion?

11507
06:19:30,590 --> 06:19:34,965
did you want me to read it again

11508
06:19:34,965 --> 06:19:34,965
  again?

11509
06:19:34,965 --> 06:19:34,965
  again?

11510
06:19:34,965 --> 06:19:38,075
I'll read it again.

11511
06:19:38,075 --> 06:20:02,601
>> there it is, the motion is   that

11512
06:20:02,601 --> 06:20:05,678
that the county council approves   as

11513
06:20:05,678 --> 06:20:07,586
as amended the overall proposed

11514
06:20:07,586 --> 06:20:07,863
2026v requirement

11515
06:20:07,863 --> 06:20:07,919
2026v requirement for the county

11516
06:20:07,919 --> 06:20:10,264
of essex

11517
06:20:10,264 --> 06:20:16,744
of essex in the amount of   $145,144,950 most

11518
06:20:16,744 --> 06:20:20,585
$145,144,950 -- moved

11519
06:20:20,585 --> 06:20:21,672
$145,144,950 -- moved by   councillor

11520
06:20:21,672 --> 06:20:25,289
councillor deyong.  I'll ask you

11521
06:20:25,289 --> 06:20:27,854
I'll ask you to vote   electronically

11522
06:20:27,854 --> 06:20:31,005
electronically, please.

11523
06:20:31,005 --> 06:20:41,730
that is carried unanimously.

11524
06:20:41,730 --> 06:20:41,843
well done.

11525
06:20:41,843 --> 06:20:48,529
there are no items of unfinished

11526
06:20:48,529 --> 06:20:48,587
business.

11527
06:20:48,587 --> 06:20:48,587
business.

11528
06:20:48,587 --> 06:20:52,255
for consideration for december

11529
06:20:52,255 --> 06:20:53,006
  december third

11530
06:20:53,006 --> 06:20:53,897
december third 2025, any other

11531
06:20:53,897 --> 06:20:54,104
mark
Matters

11532
06:20:54,104 --> 06:20:54,104
mark
Matters

11533
06:20:54,104 --> 06:20:55,566
matters of new business to bring

11534
06:20:55,566 --> 06:20:56,719
forward?

11535
06:20:56,719 --> 06:20:56,719
forward?

11536
06:20:56,719 --> 06:21:01,472
>> it's just wondering where we

11537
06:21:01,472 --> 06:21:01,530
stand with meeting

11538
06:21:01,530 --> 06:21:03,059
stand with meeting with the   hospital

11539
06:21:03,059 --> 06:21:06,608
hospital, because we talked   about it

11540
06:21:06,608 --> 06:21:06,941
about it here at budget, we   talked about

11541
06:21:06,941 --> 06:21:08,514
talked about it and I'm   wondering

11542
06:21:08,514 --> 06:21:09,589
wondering if there's any   follow-up from and

11543
06:21:09,589 --> 06:21:09,644
follow-up from and mr. And from   having

11544
06:21:09,644 --> 06:21:12,098
having that's joint meeting,   please and

11545
06:21:12,098 --> 06:21:16,250
please and thanks.  >> I

11546
06:21:16,250 --> 06:21:16,896
>> I know we attempted twice   this fall to

11547
06:21:16,896 --> 06:21:17,013
this fall to have a joint   meeting

11548
06:21:17,013 --> 06:21:19,159
meeting with the city to have a

11549
06:21:19,159 --> 06:21:19,220
presentation

11550
06:21:19,220 --> 06:21:22,332
presentation about the hospital

11551
06:21:22,332 --> 06:21:22,332
.  Information

11552
06:21:22,332 --> 06:21:26,943
information hasn't been   finalized from

11553
06:21:26,943 --> 06:21:30,014
finalized from that group and   speaking with administration

11554
06:21:30,014 --> 06:21:30,081
speaking with administration   both of the

11555
06:21:30,081 --> 06:21:33,213
both of the city and with   windsor regional hospital

11556
06:21:33,213 --> 06:21:33,783
windsor regional hospital, we

11557
06:21:33,783 --> 06:21:33,783
want

11558
06:21:33,783 --> 06:21:35,592
want to make sure this joint   meeting is as meaningful and

11559
06:21:35,592 --> 06:21:35,650
meeting is as meaningful and   productive as

11560
06:21:35,650 --> 06:21:37,292
productive as possible for both   of

11561
06:21:37,292 --> 06:21:38,871
of our councils.

11562
06:21:38,871 --> 06:21:45,366
we had this conversation...    It's expected that

11563
06:21:45,366 --> 06:21:45,424
it's expected that windsor   regional

11564
06:21:45,424 --> 06:21:48,876
regional in operation with the

11565
06:21:48,876 --> 06:21:49,091
province had more concrete
Information

11566
06:21:49,091 --> 06:21:49,091
province had more concrete
Information

11567
06:21:49,091 --> 06:21:50,671
information to share with us   publicly

11568
06:21:50,671 --> 06:21:51,006
publicly in the new year.

11569
06:21:51,006 --> 06:21:53,750
at something we are definitely   still

11570
06:21:53,750 --> 06:21:58,552
still in connection with both

11571
06:21:58,552 --> 06:21:58,608
windsor regional

11572
06:21:58,608 --> 06:21:59,804
windsor regional in the city of   windsor

11573
06:21:59,804 --> 06:22:00,466
windsor on this topic.

11574
06:22:00,466 --> 06:22:01,448
and wanting to make sure that   the foregoing

11575
06:22:01,448 --> 06:22:01,988
the foregoing to bring in every

11576
06:22:01,988 --> 06:22:02,539
bite in the

11577
06:22:02,539 --> 06:22:06,324
bite in the room together, it's   a worthwhile conversation

11578
06:22:06,324 --> 06:22:06,483
a worthwhile conversation.  Stay tuned

11579
06:22:06,483 --> 06:22:09,462
stay tuned and the hope is that

11580
06:22:09,462 --> 06:22:09,668
in q1

11581
06:22:09,668 --> 06:22:10,603
in q1 of 2026 we will be able

11582
06:22:10,603 --> 06:22:10,659
to   record

11583
06:22:10,659 --> 06:22:13,116
record eight that joint meeting

11584
06:22:13,116 --> 06:22:17,441
.  >> anyone else

11585
06:22:17,441 --> 06:22:18,427
>> anyone else or new business

11586
06:22:18,427 --> 06:22:18,427
?

11587
06:22:18,427 --> 06:22:20,326
seeing him, there's one bylaw

11588
06:22:20,326 --> 06:22:20,382
for the

11589
06:22:20,382 --> 06:22:21,490
for the kenny consideration this   afternoon

11590
06:22:21,490 --> 06:22:24,653
afternoon that will be read by   the

11591
06:22:24,653 --> 06:22:26,309
the county clerk.  >> bylaw

11592
06:22:26,309 --> 06:22:29,135
>> bylaw number 2025, being a

11593
06:22:29,135 --> 06:22:29,135
pilot

11594
06:22:29,135 --> 06:22:29,629
pilot you can from proceedings   of the

11595
06:22:29,629 --> 06:22:31,263
of the council of the   corporation

11596
06:22:31,263 --> 06:22:35,365
corporation...  For december   december third

11597
06:22:35,365 --> 06:22:40,993
december third 2025.  >> motion

11598
06:22:40,993 --> 06:22:41,109
>> motion is a recommendation   that

11599
06:22:41,109 --> 06:22:45,885
that counsel -- bylaw two '02

11600
06:22:45,885 --> 06:22:45,941
553 be given through readings
And

11601
06:22:45,941 --> 06:22:45,941
553 be given through readings
And

11602
06:22:45,941 --> 06:22:50,483
and have being read a second and

11603
06:22:50,483 --> 06:22:50,539
third time, finally

11604
06:22:50,539 --> 06:22:50,598
third time, finally passed and

11605
06:22:50,598 --> 06:22:52,113
enacted

11606
06:22:52,113 --> 06:22:53,813
enacted, looking for a mover and

11607
06:22:53,813 --> 06:22:53,869
seconder

11608
06:22:53,869 --> 06:22:53,869
seconder.

11609
06:22:53,869 --> 06:23:02,450
counselor mcnamara, second by   --

11610
06:23:02,450 --> 06:23:03,280
-- you'll have to vote   electronically

11611
06:23:03,280 --> 06:23:03,280
electronically.

11612
06:23:03,280 --> 06:23:20,743
that is carried.

11613
06:23:20,743 --> 06:23:21,137
any notices of motion to be   introduced

11614
06:23:21,137 --> 06:23:24,901
introduced for december third

11615
06:23:24,901 --> 06:23:24,901
2025?

11616
06:23:24,901 --> 06:23:24,901
2025?

11617
06:23:24,901 --> 06:23:28,292
seeing non, all matters of   businesses

11618
06:23:28,292 --> 06:23:28,403
businesses have been addressed

11619
06:23:28,403 --> 06:23:29,757
.  The motion

11620
06:23:29,757 --> 06:23:33,043
the motion is that essex county

11621
06:23:33,043 --> 06:23:33,269
council meeting

11622
06:23:33,269 --> 06:23:33,329
council meeting for december   december third

11623
06:23:33,329 --> 06:23:34,954
december third 2025 to be   adjourned

11624
06:23:34,954 --> 06:23:36,871
adjourned at 3:22 p.m.

11625
06:23:36,871 --> 06:23:42,031
moved bank councillor gibb,   counsellor

11626
06:23:42,031 --> 06:23:46,520
counsellor verbeke, that is   carried,

11627
06:23:46,520 --> 06:23:46,580
carried, thank you.