[0:00] >> good morning, everyone. [1:05] I would like to call the december [1:10] december third 2025 essex county [1:11] council [1:11] council meeting to order. [1:12] council is gathered this morning [1:15] to [1:16] to deliberate the 2026 budget. [1:16] we will invite everyone to join [1:23] council [1:23] council and administration as [1:24] we take [1:24] take this time for a moment of [1:26] reflection [1:26] reflection. [1:26] that will lead into the playing [1:28] of [1:28] of our national anthem. [1:29] [o canada playing, instrumental] [1:56] [o canada playing, instrumental] [2:43] we acknowledge the land on which [3:18] [3:18] the county of essex is located [3:20] [3:20] is the traditional territory of [3:21] [3:21] the three fires confederacy of [3:22] [3:22] first nations, comprised of the [3:24] [3:24] ojibway, odawa and potawatomie [3:25] [3:25] peoples. [3:25] we specifically recognize [3:28] caldwell first nation and other [3:30] [3:30] first nations which have [3:32] provided significant historical [3:33] [3:33] and contemporary contributions [3:35] [3:35] to this region. [3:37] we also value the contributions [3:40] [3:40] of all original peoples of [3:45] turtle island [3:46] who have been living and working [3:48] [3:48] on this land from time [3:49] immemorial. [3:49] >> is a look around the table, [3:55] I see [3:55] see all-county members are around [3:56] around the table this morning. [3:57] again, good morning. [3:58] welcome to what we hope is a -- [4:04] I'm [4:04] I'm trying to think what p word [4:06] is [4:06] is good. [4:06] >> productive. [4:10] >> productive, thank you. [4:11] a productive day this morning. [4:12] [4:12] without too much pain, shall we [4:16] put [4:16] put it that way. [4:17] the county's strategic plan calls [4:20] calls for the county of essex [4:22] to be [4:22] be a regional champion delivering [4:24] delivering services for the success [4:26] success of our local communities [4:27] and [4:27] and residents. [4:27] that plan also calls for us to [4:30] be [4:31] be a powerhouse in public and [4:32] private [4:32] private investment attraction [4:34] I investing [4:35] investing in quality infrastructure [4:36] infrastructure and creating conditions [4:37] conditions conducive to economic [4:37] growth [4:38] growth. [4:38] the county of essex staff built [4:40] the [4:40] the proposed 2026 budget in response [4:43] response to the strategic priorities [4:44] priorities that we as council [4:48] set [4:48] set and they did so in a challenging [4:50] challenging economic environment [4:51] while [4:51] while trying to maintain service [4:52] levels [4:52] levels. [4:52] I thank them for their dedication [4:55] dedication and hard work. [4:56] now it's time for us to get to [4:59] work [5:00] work. [5:00] I know we are up for the task. [5:02] [5:02] reviewing and setting the budget [5:04] is [5:04] is one of the most important jobs [5:06] jobs that council performs and [5:07] I am [5:08] am looking forward to the discussions [5:11] discussions around this table [5:13] as we [5:13] we chart our course for 2026 and [5:14] beyond [5:15] beyond. [5:15] before we get started, just a [5:19] little [5:19] little notes. [5:19] if we have moments in the discussion [5:24] discussion process where we asked [5:28] asked the finance department for [5:30] certain [5:30] certain numbers or certain adjustments [5:31] adjustments, instead of us just [5:32] sitting [5:33] sitting then, perhaps we will [5:35] take [5:35] take a little break at that time [5:37]  time. [5:37]  time. [5:37] I think that keeps us moving a [5:38] little [5:39] little bit, getting up and down [5:40] , and [5:40] and it also, it doesn't put the [5:42] pressure [5:42] pressure on our ladies at the [5:46] finance [5:46] finance table. [5:46] if that's okay with you, I think [5:48] we [5:49] we will proceed in that manner [5:50] . [5:50] thank you. [5:50] any disclosures of pecuniary interest [5:55] interest around the table this [5:56] morning [5:56] morning? [5:56] seen none. [5:57] if at any point during the proceedings [5:59] proceedings, matter is raised [6:00] for [6:00] for which a member has an interest [6:02] interest which is pecuniary, of [6:05] decoration [6:05] decoration can be made. [6:07] no minutes for council's consideration [6:08] consideration and no delegations [6:09]  delegations. [6:09]  delegations. [6:09] one piece of correspondence received [6:12] received in relation to the 2026 [6:15] draft [6:15] draft budget. [6:15] does anyone want to discuss that [6:17] item [6:17] item further? [6:17] I am seeing none. [6:22] the recommendation is that the [6:23] correspondence [6:24] correspondence listed on the regular [6:25] regular agenda for december december third, [6:25] december third, 2025, we received [6:28] received. [6:28] looking for a mover and a second [6:31] life [6:31] life. [6:31] moved by councilor verbeke, seconded [6:33] seconded by councilor meloche. [6:34] [6:34] any discussion? [6:35] all in favour by show of hands [6:37] . [6:37] that is carried. [6:38] thank you. [6:39] no resolutions for consideration [6:41]  consideration. [6:41]  consideration. [6:41] under consent, there are two items [6:43] items listed for december third [6:44] . [6:44] anything there that council would [6:46] would like to discuss further? [6:47] [6:47] seeing none. [6:49] there is a recommendation that [6:51] the [6:51] the recommendations included in [6:52] the [6:52] the reports listed as items 11.1 [6:55] and [6:55] and 11.2 on the consent agenda [6:57] for [6:57] for december third, 2025 be approved [6:59] approved. [6:59] looking for a mover and a second [7:01] her [7:01] her. [7:01] councilor mcnamara any discussion [7:09] discussion? [7:09] all in favour that is carried [7:16] as part [7:16] part of the deliberations there [7:18] is [7:18] is one report for council to consider [7:21] consider and it is the county [7:22] of essex [7:23] essex 2026 advocacy priorities [7:24] . [7:24] for that report we turn to our [7:28] cao [7:28] cao, sandra zwiers. [7:29] sandra. [7:29] >> thank you, gordon. [7:29] before I get into my report, I [7:34] do [7:34] do want to make a few opening [7:36] remarks [7:36] remarks about this year's budget [7:37]  budget. [7:37]  budget. [7:37] first and foremost, I want to [7:39] thank [7:39] thank this council. [7:39] your support and encouragement [7:42] to [7:42] to staff over this past year has [7:44] really [7:44] really meant a lot to the team [7:46] . [7:46] providing public service is not [7:48] easy [7:48] easy. [7:48] but it is made easier when we [7:50] know [7:50] know as staff that we have the [7:52] support [7:53] support of our council. [7:54] this year, we really want to extend [7:56] extend our things as we get into [7:57] what [7:57] what is likely going to be a tough [7:59] tough day today. [8:00] but we want to certainly start [8:01] with [8:02] with thanks to council. [8:03] I also want to extend sincere [8:05] thanks [8:05] thanks to the entire leadership [8:06] team [8:06] team here at the county. [8:07] it does take a village to prepare [8:09] prepare a budget. [8:09] this process started many, many [8:13] months [8:13] months ago. [8:14] everyone in this room and many [8:15] who [8:16] who are not in this room contributed [8:17] contributed to the success of [8:20] the [8:20] the document you are going to [8:21] see [8:21] see today. [8:22] this was a challenging year, as [8:26] the [8:26] the warden noted. [8:27] with cost pressures affecting [8:29] every [8:29] every aspect of our operations [8:30] . [8:30] our staff across all departments [8:31] deserve [8:34] deserve recognition for crafting [8:35] a [8:36] a fiscally responsible budget [8:37] that [8:37] that stays through to joe's stays [8:38] stays true. [8:38] staff carefully assess whether [8:40] every [8:40] every dollar could have the greatest [8:42] greatest impact and maintaining [8:43] vital [8:44] vital services will making significant [8:45] significant, targeted investments [8:46] investments in health care, and [8:47] for [8:48] for structure, housing supports [8:48] and [8:49] and public safety. [8:49] your admin team has tried to do [8:52] the [8:52] the heavy lifting for you today [8:53] . [8:53] hopefully you will see that this [8:55] budget [8:55] budget has tried to weigh spending [8:58] spending against the risk of deferral [8:59] deferral. [8:59] it presents a budget that is in [9:03] line [9:03] line with inflation while maintaining [9:04] maintaining the levels of service [9:05] service our county residents demand [9:06] demand. [9:06] each year, we do truck try to [9:10] improve [9:10] improve upon the process and we [9:12] tried [9:13] tried that once again this year [9:14] . [9:14] part of the role that I tried [9:16] to play [9:16] play in helping the team was meeting [9:18] meeting with each of county council [9:19] council throughout the year to [9:20] have [9:20] have discussions on what your [9:22] budget [9:22] budget priorities were, and suggestions [9:23] suggestions for improvement on [9:24] the [9:24] the process. [9:25] and so again, I want to thank [9:27] council [9:27] council for your engagement in [9:28] those [9:28] those meetings and the valuable [9:30] insights [9:30] insights and suggestions that [9:31] you [9:31] you gave that helped form the [9:33] experience [9:33] experience we hope you will enjoy [9:34] enjoy today. [9:34] the goal of any budget is to action [9:38] action our strategic plan, as [9:39] the [9:39] the warden said. [9:39] this budget we feel does support [9:42] a [9:43] a number of key strategies in [9:44] our [9:44] our plan. [9:45] that takes me to the report that [9:46] is [9:47] is in your agenda package this [9:48] morning [9:49] morning. [9:49] as promised at our last council [9:50] meeting [9:51] meeting, we are looking to formalize [9:53] formalize our advocacy approach [9:54] in [9:54] in both a policy as well as formalizing [9:58] formalizing advocacy priorities [9:59] for [10:00] for council as we enter in to [10:01] 26 26. [10:01] 26 26. [10:01] the report this morning does seek [10:05] seek council's input and direction [10:06] direction for a focused of cacique [10:07] cacique campaign for next year [10:08] . [10:08] on the second page of my report [10:11] , you [10:11] you will see a number of proposed [10:13] proposed advocacy priorities for [10:14] your [10:14] your consideration today. [10:14] these priorities speak to specific [10:18] specific needs within the county [10:20] but [10:20] but they are also aligned quite [10:21] nicely [10:22] nicely with the advocacy approaches [10:25] approaches and priorities of agencies [10:27] agencies above us. [10:27] so amo, the western ontario warden [10:30] warden's caucus, and most importantly [10:32] importantly, the province. [10:32] it is important that what we do [10:34] here [10:34] here mina simply does aligned [10:35] with [10:35] with provincial priorities. [10:36] each of these priorities has been [10:40] been incorporated to some varying [10:41] varying degree in the proposed [10:42] budget [10:42] budget you are going to get a [10:44] walk-through [10:44] walk-through today. [10:44] very quickly, these are outlined [10:47] in [10:47] in the report, improving mobility [10:51] mobility and roadway capacity. [10:52] [10:52] our road network is vital to the [10:55] linkages [10:55] linkages and economy in our region [10:57] region. [10:57] you will see a focused there. [10:58] ensuring safe, affordable homes [11:01] as [11:01] as a foundation for sustainable [11:02] community [11:02] community growth. [11:02] as you know in 2025, we completed [11:07] completed our regional affordable [11:07] affordable housing strategy and [11:08] we [11:08] we are looking to advance those [11:10] conversations [11:10] conversations with our locals, [11:11] and [11:11] and see what we can do is a region [11:13] region to help move the housing [11:14] goals [11:14] goals forward. [11:14] the third is improving access [11:18] to health care [11:19] health care and paramedic service [11:19] service modernization. [11:20] we have a number of our ems folks [11:22] folks in the audience as well [11:23] today [11:23] today, and we have a fantastic [11:27] group [11:28] group at our long-term care home [11:29] as [11:29] as well. [11:29] we are looking to really focus [11:31] our [11:31] our efforts and optimize the scarce [11:33] scarce resources we have to provide [11:34] provide those services. [11:34] the fourth item we are looking [11:37] to [11:38] to focus on in 2026 is advancing [11:40] environmental [11:41] environmental stewardship. [11:41] as you know, our geography is [11:43] unique [11:43] unique in the province when we [11:45] are [11:45] are surrounded by great lakes [11:46] and [11:46] and with that joy and environmental [11:50] environmental luxury does come [11:52] some [11:52] some specific challenges for our [11:53] region [11:53] region, particularly in the form [11:54] of [11:54] of flooding and shoreline erosion [11:58] erosion, and also wanting to be [12:00] prepared [12:01] prepared from an emergency management [12:02] management perspective. [12:02] the fifth item we've identified [12:06] for [12:07] for council's consideration is [12:08] economic [12:08] economic development trade stability [12:09] stability. [12:09] it is no surprise and we've said [12:11] this [12:11] this many times during 2025, the [12:12] impacts [12:13] impacts of tariffs and cross-border [12:16] cross-border trade tensions impact [12:17] impact the essex county region [12:18] more [12:20] more amplified then I either other [12:23] other areas of the province. [12:24] as a county government, we're [12:26] looking [12:26] looking to make sure the province [12:27] province is aware of our issues [12:28] and [12:28] and we are representing the needs [12:30] needs of our business community [12:31] . [12:31] in the report, you will see a [12:34] number [12:34] number of advocacy opportunities [12:35] for [12:35] for next year. [12:35] we are looking to delegate at [12:37] various [12:37] various conferences, at roma and [12:40] amo [12:40] amo as usual. [12:41] also looking to participate in [12:44] the [12:44] the western ontario wardens caucus [12:45] caucus queen's park today, which [12:46] would [12:46] would be a new event for us in [12:48] the [12:48] the spring. [12:48] of course ongoing meetings and [12:51] intentional [12:51] intentional conversations with [12:51] our [12:52] our local mps and mpps. [12:53] in terms of next steps, council [12:56] with [12:56] with your direction today, we [12:57] would [12:57] would be action inc. These priorities [13:00] priorities in terms of print materials [13:01] materials and information on our [13:05] public [13:06] public facing social media and [13:07] and county [13:07] and county website. [13:07] in terms of financial considerations [13:08] considerations, while there is [13:11] an [13:11] an element of cost, we have waived [13:13] waived these against the proposed [13:14] proposed budget and we are confident [13:15] confident the proposed budget [13:16] includes [13:16] includes enough funding to action [13:20] action the strategies we've outlined [13:21] outlined for council consideration [13:22] consideration today. [13:22] the report this morning does give [13:25] give council a bit of meat on [13:28] the [13:28] the bone to chew on but certainly [13:30] certainly we are looking to council [13:31] council to get your input and [13:34] your [13:34] your official direction on the [13:35] advocacy [13:35] advocacy priorities you would [13:36] like [13:36] like to see in 2026. [13:37] with that, I would be happy to [13:39] answer [13:39] answer any of your questions. [13:40] >> thank you. [13:43] any questions for administration [13:44]  administration? [13:44]  administration? [13:44] councilor prue. [13:44] >> thank you, madame borden. [13:48] I read with some interest the [13:53] delegation [13:53] delegation to go to queen's park [13:54] [13:54] . [13:54] it seemed like it wasn't funded [13:59] by [13:59] by very much. [13:59] is that because we are going with [14:01] with the western ontario wardens [14:03] so [14:04] so -- I'm just trying to figure [14:07] it [14:07] it out. [14:07] it's only $4000. [14:08] >> yes, we considered this activity [14:15] activity on our own as a county [14:17] government [14:17] government. [14:17] there was considerable cost associated [14:19] associated with that and never [14:20] . [14:20] we did learn late this fall that [14:23] the [14:24] the western ontario wardens caucus [14:26] caucus does an annual queen's [14:27] park [14:27] park day, and in 2026, they are [14:29] inviting [14:29] inviting all members to display [14:33] a [14:33] a table, have a booth, and we [14:36] can [14:36] can essentially piggyback on their [14:37] their efforts to set up an advocacy [14:41] advocacy day at queen's park. [14:42] it certainly has reduced the cost [14:45] cost for the county and we are [14:47] leveraging [14:47] leveraging our membership to make [14:48] make that happen. [14:49] >> thank you. [14:51] having attended hundreds of these [14:53] these things in my years at queen's [14:55] queen's park, they tend to be [14:58] rather [14:58] rather large affairs. [14:59] the tables showcase products and [15:06] services [15:06] services from each of the regions [15:07] regions. [15:07] I would imagine we would take [15:13] down [15:13] down wine and other things that [15:15] are [15:15] are from the region. [15:16] is that the intent? [15:19] that we have that kind of stuff [15:21] to [15:21] to showcase? [15:21] to showcase texas county? [15:25] >> planning is in the early stages [15:28] stages. [15:28] we will work quite closely with [15:31] the [15:31] the staff to make sure what we [15:33] are [15:33] are delivering to represent essex [15:34] essex county is comparable to [15:36] what [15:36] what other members are doing that [15:40] that conversation will take place [15:42] place administratively and certainly [15:43] certainly as appropriate, we can [15:44] bring [15:44] bring back a proposal to county [15:46] council [15:47] council so county council is aware [15:48] aware of the level of effort. [15:49] it certainly is an opportunity [15:51] that [15:52] that county is representing seven [15:54] seven local municipalities and [15:55] so [15:55] so while they are looking to showcase [15:57] showcase the county of essex proper [15:58] proper, it is a really nice opportunity [16:00] opportunity to showcase what is [16:01] happening [16:01] happening in each of our seven [16:02] locals [16:02] locals. [16:02] we will be in touch with administrative [16:04] administrative teams as well to [16:05] see [16:06] see how we can best leverage this [16:07] this opportunity. [16:08] >> are you confident that the [16:10] amount [16:10] amount set aside, which I think [16:11] is [16:12] is fairly small, a sufficient? [16:12] >> we are confident. [16:14] >> thank you. [16:15] >> anyone else? [16:17] councilor akpata. [16:22] >> I appreciate this. [16:23] I'm wondering if we are looking [16:25] at [16:26] at doing outside of the box final [16:28] final engagements because our [16:29] minister [16:29] minister polities have been impacted [16:30] impacted by international decisions [16:31] decisions with his -- which is [16:32] the [16:32] the exclusive purview of the federal [16:34] federal government. [16:34] even in our own facilities, we've [16:38] we've seen cost rise beyond the [16:39] scope [16:39] scope of what the province can [16:41] do [16:41] do. [16:41] I'm wondering through you, madame [16:43] madame borden, if the ceo has [16:46] any [16:46] any ideas that may help all of [16:47] us [16:47] us? [16:47] >> through you, worden, you will [16:51] notice [16:51] notice one of the items in the [16:53] list [16:54] list is meetings with mps and [16:56] mpps [16:56] mpps. [16:56] mpps is something we have historically [16:58] historically focused on and councilor [17:00] councilor akpata, you are correct [17:02] correct that the federal connection [17:03] connection probably hasn't been [17:04] as [17:05] as strong at the county as we [17:06] can [17:06] can make it. [17:07] the goal in 2026 is to seek out [17:10] those [17:10] those opportunities for hopefully [17:11] hopefully one on one conversations [17:12] conversations with mps. [17:12] we have found that the conversations [17:17] conversations are more candid [17:18] and [17:18] and often more productive when [17:19] you [17:20] you can meet with members of either [17:21] either the province of the federal [17:22] federal government in a smaller [17:24] setting [17:24] setting, rather than in a conference [17:27] conference 15 minute speed dating [17:29] dating situation. [17:29] we will be looking administratively [17:30] administratively to seek out those [17:32] those opportunities to meet with [17:33] our [17:33] our mps. [17:33] >> a supplemental, if I may. [17:37] I saw that. [17:38] I'm looking for -- my friend spoke [17:41] spoke about queen's park day. [17:42] I know perhaps down the road, [17:44] may [17:44] may be the house might be something [17:48] something we could engage in various [17:49] various departments. [17:49] I look at what's going on, to [17:53] lay [17:53] lay with the infrastructure bill [17:54] that's [17:55] that's going on that's going to [17:56] connect [17:56] connect windsor and detroit. [17:58] it's affecting this a polities [17:59] here [17:59] here. [17:59] I want to make sure as we go down [18:01] down this path, we don't eliminate [18:03] eliminate anything that's going [18:03] to [18:04] to affect the dollars that we [18:05] spend [18:05] spend. [18:05] that solemn looking for. [18:06] >> thank you. [18:07] anyone else? [18:07] >> thank you, madame warden. [18:13] I'm supportive of the five parties [18:14] parties and read them -- ready [18:16] to [18:17] to move them and endorse all five [18:18] five under the recommendation [18:20] when [18:20] when you are. [18:20] >> if there are no further comments [18:22] comments, we will come back to [18:23] you [18:24] you. [18:24] I will read the recommendation [18:25] first. [18:26] first. [18:26] that is that essex county council [18:28] council received report number [18:29]  number 2025 [18:29] number 2025 s1 203ca o-letter, [18:33]  o-letter, county [18:33] o-letter, county of essex 2026 [18:34] advocacy [18:35] advocacy priorities as information [18:37] information and direct administration [18:38] administration -- into the county [18:42] county's advocacy strategy and [18:43] 2026 [18:43] 2026 advocacy calendar. [18:44] that is moved by councilor rogers [18:48] rogers. [18:48] looking for a second or. [18:49] councilor meloche. [18:51] any discussion on the motion itself [18:54] itself? [18:54] seeing on, I ask you to vote electronically [18:56] electronically. [18:56] >> that's carried unanimously. [19:16] [19:16] thank you. [19:16] this is where the rubber hits [19:21] the [19:21] the road. [19:22] 2026 budget overview treasuries [19:25] report [19:26] report. [19:26] for this report, melissa ryan. [19:29] [19:29] over to you. [19:30] >> thank you, wardens. [19:33] good morning. [19:33] thank you for joining the county [19:37] administration [19:38] administration team today to kick [19:39] kick off our 2026 county budget [19:42] deliberations [19:42] deliberations. [19:42] this morning, I will provide a [19:44] high-level [19:45] high-level overview of the 2026 [19:46] budget [19:46] budget, our priorities, the pressures [19:48] pressures we are facing and what [19:50] this [19:50] this means for residents today [19:51] and [19:51] and for our long-term stability [19:52] . [19:52] to start off, I would like to [19:54] take [19:54] take a moment to acknowledge all [19:55] of [19:55] of the county staff who worked [19:57] on [19:57] on preparing this year's budget [19:58] . [19:58] sitting beside me is heidi mc mcleod [20:00] mcleod, our manager of accounting [20:02] accounting and deputy treasurer [20:02] , what's [20:03] what's been key in keeping us [20:04] organize [20:04] organize along with her team of [20:05] financial [20:06] financial analysts, whose attention [20:11] attention to detail made this [20:12] process [20:12] process run smoothly. [20:12] I would also like to thank our [20:14] cao [20:15] cao and senior leadership team [20:17] for [20:17] for their insight and participation [20:19] participation throughout the process [20:19] process as well as our communications [20:21] communications and council services [20:21] services team for helping make [20:23] the [20:24] the budget clear and accessible [20:25] . [20:25] I would also like to thank all [20:27] others [20:27] others in the county who supported [20:28] supported this budget process. [20:29] [20:29] this really has been a countywide [20:32] countywide collaborative effort [20:33] built [20:33] built on trust, teamwork and commitment. [20:34] built on trust, teamwork and commitment. [20:34] our goal, just as has been over [20:38] the [20:38] the past four years that this [20:40] council [20:40] council has been at the table [20:42] remain [20:42] remain simple, maintain stability [20:43] stability, deliver value and plan [20:45] plan responsibly for our future [20:45] . [20:45] we want to make sure our financial [20:48] financial decisions continue to [20:49] align [20:49] align with council's priorities [20:50] and [20:50] and community needs. [20:50] today's agenda starts with a general [20:54] general overview followed by departmental [20:55] departmental presentations. [20:55] after each one, there will be [20:58] an opportunity [20:58] opportunity for questions and [21:00] discussion [21:00] discussion. [21:00] council can decide whether to [21:01] receive [21:01] receive the information for further [21:03] further review later today or [21:05] to receive [21:05] receive and approve the department [21:06] department's 2026 budget if there's [21:08] there's a consensus to move forward [21:10] forward. [21:10] to keep everyone focused and energized [21:12] energized, we are planning breaks [21:13] breaks at 10:30, noon and 2:30 [21:15] . [21:15] it will stay flexible depending [21:17] how [21:17] how the discussion close. [21:18] we will also have a quick break [21:21] before [21:21] before finalizing the levy recommendation [21:22] recommendation to make sure any [21:23] adjustments [21:23] adjustments from today's discussions [21:24] discussions are accurately reflected [21:24] reflected. [21:24] the 2026 budget process began [21:28] in may of [21:29] may of 2025 with planning sessions [21:31] sessions and departmental reviews [21:32] reviews. [21:32] we aimed to make this project [21:34] more [21:34] more strategic, ensuring that [21:36] every [21:36] every dollar aligns with council [21:38] parties [21:38] parties and community expectations [21:39] expectations. [21:39] after laster's budget, we held [21:40] a debrief [21:41] debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. The feedback shaped the 2026 Process. [21:47] debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. The feedback shaped the 2026 Process. [21:47] debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. The feedback shaped the 2026 Process. [21:47] debrief to learn what worked well and what we could improve. The feedback shaped the 2026 Process. [21:47] by november, the full 2026 budget [21:55] budget was finalized and provided [21:56] provided to council and the public [21:57] public. [21:57] throughout, we focused on fundamentals [22:00] fundamentals. [22:00] we started with our 2025 base [22:04] budget [22:04] budget, factoring in contractual [22:05] increases [22:06] increases, reviewing departmental [22:06] departmental work plans, studying [22:08] studying assumptions around inflation [22:10] inflation and row and ensuring [22:12] every [22:12] every decision supports long-term [22:13] long-term sustainability. [22:13] while the document itself may [22:15] be 163 [22:16] 163 pages, it's really the result [22:18] result of months of collaboration [22:19] collaboration, planning and a [22:21] lot [22:21] lot of caffeine, all aimed at [22:22] delivering [22:22] delivering a budget that balances [22:23] balances today's needs with tomorrow's [22:25] tomorrow's goals. [22:25] as we look at what is shaping [22:27] the [22:27] the 2026 budget, there are a few [22:29] big [22:29] big drivers we can't ignore. [22:30] first is inflation. [22:31] yes, it is finally starting to [22:35] stabilize [22:35] stabilize, which is great news [22:36] but [22:36] but we are still feeling its impacts [22:38] impacts in some key areas, especially [22:39] especially in certain contracts [22:41] with [22:41] with materials, software, vehicles [22:42] vehicles and wages. [22:42] next we are managing steady growth [22:46] growth across the county which [22:47] adds [22:48] adds pressure. [22:48] each new subdivision, road or [22:50] community [22:50] community initiative create ripple [22:52] ripple effects that require planning [22:53] planning, funding and people to [22:54] deliver [22:54] deliver. [22:54] it's a good problem to have. [22:56] growth is the sign of a healthy [22:58] county [22:58] county but it requires thoughtful [22:59] thoughtful balancing. [23:00] speaking of people, let's talk [23:03] about [23:03] about human resources. [23:03] 2026 will be a busy year. [23:05] a key phase with five collective [23:09] agreements [23:09] agreements coming up for negotiation [23:10] negotiation. [23:10] at the same time, we focus on [23:13] retention [23:13] retention and succession planning [23:13] planning, making sure we continue [23:15] continue to attract and keep talented [23:17] talented, skilled staff because [23:17] at [23:18] at the end of the day, our people [23:19] people are the ones who make the [23:21] services [23:21] services happen. [23:21] at the heart of this budget is [23:25] fiscal [23:25] fiscal responsibility. [23:25] our approach remains consistent [23:26] hereafter [23:27] hereafter year. [23:27] we focus on maintaining service [23:29] levels [23:29] levels, honouring commitments [23:30] to community [23:31] community and making decisions [23:32] today [23:32] today that don't compromise tomorrow's [23:33] tomorrow's financial stability [23:33] . [23:33] I am proud to say that that approach [23:37] approach continues to serve us [23:38] well [23:38] well. [23:38] the county is recognized for its [23:40] strong [23:41] strong fiscal management, a solid [23:42] solid credit rating and a pay-as-you-go [23:44] pay-as-you-go philosophy that [23:45] helps [23:45] helps us limit that and keep control [23:46] control of our financial future [23:48] . [23:48] of course, that doesn't mean it's [23:49] it's easy. [23:50] we are still navigating challenges [23:51] challenges things like rising [23:54] operational [23:54] operational and timber structure [23:55] cost [23:55] cost, increasing land prices, [23:56] limited [23:56] limited provincial funding and [23:59] ongoing [23:59] ongoing deferral of property tax [24:00] reassessment [24:00] reassessment. [24:00] to manage these challenges, we [24:03] come [24:04] come back to our guiding budget [24:05] principles [24:06] principles which include maintaining [24:07] maintaining essential service [24:08] levels [24:08] levels, honouring our commitments [24:09] commitments and prioritizing long-term [24:11] long-term stability. [24:11] these principles keep us grounded [24:12] grounded, to help ensure we are [24:14] not [24:14] not just reacting to short-term [24:16] pressures [24:17] pressures but building a balanced [24:18] balanced looking budget that reflects [24:19] reflects both fiscal discipline [24:20] and [24:20] and community priorities. [24:21] this slide gives a high-level [24:25] look [24:25] look at the 2026 county budget [24:26] . [24:26] the total proposed budget comes [24:28] in [24:28] in at 145.7 million, with 96.8 million [24:33] 96.8 million dedicated to operations [24:34] operations and 48.9 million for [24:34] capital [24:37] capital. [24:37] the result is a proposed 2.5% [24:38] -- it [24:41] it works out to be $51.84 a year [24:45] for [24:45] for an average home assessed at [24:46] 350,000. [24:46] 350,000. [24:46] what I want to emphasize here [24:49] is that [24:50] that the budget isn't about across-the-board [24:52] across-the-board increases, it's [24:52] about [24:52] about strategic investments with [24:53] measurable [24:53] measurable impact. [24:54] every dollar has a purpose and [24:59] to [24:59] to be our advancing council's [25:00] priorities [25:00] priorities in a sustainable way [25:01] . [25:01] a quick fun fact that I am typically [25:05] typically asked by council is [25:07] that [25:07] that everyone present changing [25:07] the [25:08] the tax rate equals about 1.42 million [25:10] 1.42 million in levy dollars. [25:11] I will just add, our team did [25:15] some [25:15] some heavy lifting this year. [25:16] we started with a potential 13.3 [25:18] million-dollar [25:19] million-dollar levy increase and [25:19] through [25:20] through internal reviews and incorporating [25:21] incorporating growth, we brought [25:22] that [25:23] that down to 5.7 million. [25:25] that is a reduction of seven-point [25:27] seven-point 6 million before the [25:27] budget [25:28] budget even reached council. [25:28] this slide shows the infamous [25:33] loony [25:33] loony graph indicating what portion [25:34] portion of your tax dollar goes [25:35] to [25:36] to each department. [25:37] the largest year, as you can see [25:38]  see, [25:38] see, was timber structure and [25:40] planning [25:40] planning followed by external [25:41] commitments [25:41] commitments which are for things [25:42] like [25:43] like public health and social [25:44] services [25:44] services and regional initiatives [25:45] initiatives. [25:45] this slide gives a snapshot of [25:48] where [25:49] where we have been and where we [25:50] are [25:50] are heading in terms of tax rate [25:52] changes [25:52] changes and inflation from 2021 [25:54] to [25:54] to 2026. [25:54] we talk about inflation, is important [25:58] important to remember we are not [26:01] just [26:01] just talking about regular cpi [26:02] that [26:02] that affects groceries and clothing [26:03] clothing. [26:03] for municipalities, our shopping [26:06] list [26:06] list looks a little different. [26:08] [26:08] things like asphalt, concrete [26:10] and [26:10] and construction materials are [26:11] all [26:11] all tied to nonresidential construction [26:13] construction inflation, which [26:15] tends [26:15] tends to rise faster. [26:16] even if general inflation cools [26:17] , our [26:18] our project cost don't always [26:19] follow [26:19] follow suit. [26:19] big picture, our tax rate increases [26:22] increases have historically stayed [26:24] stayed at or below inflation which [26:25] which has helped keep things affordable [26:27] affordable for residents but it [26:28] also [26:28] also means we have years where [26:29] we [26:29] we are just catching up after [26:31] holding [26:31] holding the line for so long. [26:32] for 2026, we are still in balance [26:35] balance mode, managing inflation [26:37]  inflation, [26:37] inflation, funding big capital [26:38] priorities [26:38] priorities like the roadway expansion [26:39] expansion program, the new windsor-essex [26:41] windsor-essex hospital, the ms [26:42] master [26:42] master plan and social services [26:43] while [26:45] while keeping the increase moderate [26:46] moderate and sustainable. [26:47] overall, this trend shows what [26:48] I think [26:49] think is a responsible story, [26:51] study [26:51] study, deliberate adjustment to [26:53] keep [26:53] keep up with inflation and growth [26:54] growth while continuing to invest [26:55] invest where it matters most. [26:56] this next line shows how we arrived [27:00] arrived at our 2026 levy requirement [27:01] requirement. [27:01] we started with the 2025 base [27:05] levy [27:05] levy and added increases from [27:07] each [27:07] each department bringing the total [27:08] total to approximately 145.7 million. [27:12] total to approximately 145.7 million. [27:12] the main departmental increases [27:13] that [27:13] that affect the levy include the [27:15] addition [27:15] addition of eight paramedic positions [27:16] positions, one human resources [27:20] assistant [27:21] assistant and one human resource [27:22] generalist [27:22] generalist. [27:22] residential and homelessness services [27:26] services, we have increased per  per diem [27:27] per diem funding for residential [27:28] services [27:28] services and we have also expanded [27:30] expanded the county's overnight [27:31] homelessness [27:31] homelessness program. [27:31] additional levy dollars were included [27:35] included to close the asset management [27:39] management planned gap and also [27:40] levy [27:40] levy dollars were put into support [27:42] support the roadway expansion [27:43] program [27:43] program. [27:43] there were some levy dollars for [27:46] enhanced [27:46] enhanced recreational programming [27:47] programming. [27:47] we did increase our funding for [27:51] drainage [27:55] drainage management with council [27:56] direction [27:56] direction. [27:56] for social services and housing [27:58] , you [27:59] you will see higher operational [28:00] cost [28:00] cost which have been communicated [28:01] communicated to us by the service [28:03] service manager at the city of [28:04] windsor [28:04] windsor. [28:04] we also have our hospital reserve [28:08] reserve. [28:08] we are continuing with that funding [28:10] funding model presented to council [28:12] council. [28:12] that's funding strategy was already [28:14] already provided and we do see [28:15] an [28:15] an increase in that. [28:16] other large increases that are [28:19] reserve [28:19] reserve funded include facility [28:19] updates [28:20] updates such as accessibility [28:23] improvements [28:23] improvements to the elevator and [28:25] basement [28:25] basement floor and there are going [28:27] going to be basement floor repairs [28:29] repairs at the county administration [28:30] administration building. [28:30] for ems facilities characters [28:33] increase [28:33] increase funding for the ems station [28:36] station maintenance. [28:36] there's also a service delivery [28:38] review [28:39] review for infrastructure and [28:41] planning [28:41] planning services included as [28:43] well [28:43] well as investments in workforce [28:44] planning [28:44] planning and I.t. Initiatives. [28:45] I would like to highlight a few [28:48] key [28:49] key items that have influenced [28:50] the [28:50] the county's overall budget. [28:51] you will see a common theme throughout [28:53] throughout all of the various [28:54] departments [28:54] departments. [28:54] first we have about 3 million [28:58] in contractual [28:58] contractual salary increases that [28:59] that council is already approved [29:00] for [29:00] for various nonunion and union [29:02] groups [29:02] groups as well as anticipated [29:03] outcomes [29:03] outcomes of some collective agreements [29:04] agreements. [29:04] with those increases, there are [29:07] increases [29:07] increases in the benefits cost [29:08] as [29:08] as well. [29:08] next we have some dollars that [29:11] have [29:11] have shifted between departments [29:12] due [29:13] due to reallocation of internal [29:14] recoveries [29:14] recoveries. [29:14] this helps ensure costs are properly [29:17] properly assigned to the departments [29:18] departments that support them [29:19] and [29:19] and finally there are a few prebudget [29:20] prebudget approvals that were [29:22] already [29:22] already approved throughout 2025 [29:24] [29:24] , including ems vehicle procurement [29:25] procurement and the over structure [29:29] structure and planning services [29:30] area [29:30] area. [29:30] we have the state of good repair [29:32]  repair, [29:32] repair, two projects that were [29:34] approved [29:34] approved and also the addition [29:36] of [29:36] of the legal articling student [29:37] in [29:37] in corporate management approved [29:38] in [29:38] in 2025 in order to hire in 2026 2026. [29:41] in 2025 in order to hire in 2026 2026. [29:41] to reach our 2.65% target, we [29:47] did [29:47] did have to defer a few valuable [29:48] initiatives [29:48] initiatives. [29:48] for those interested in appendix [29:51] 32, [29:51] 32, treasurers report, there is [29:53] a [29:53] a list that has all of those items [29:55] items. [29:55] many of them align with our long-term [29:58] long-term priorities and remain [29:59] on [30:00] on the table. [30:00] council can still choose to include [30:02] include them in the budget if [30:03] they [30:03] they decide they are the priority [30:04] priority. [30:04] they will also be discussed at [30:06] the [30:07] the department level as well if [30:09] further [30:09] further details than what are [30:10] shown [30:10] shown in the appendix are sought [30:12] after [30:12] after. [30:12] this chart shows the counties [30:16] full-time [30:16] full-time and part-time staffing [30:17] levels [30:17] levels. [30:17] as you can see, the 2026 draft [30:19] budget [30:20] budget includes an increase of [30:21] 11 [30:21] 11 full-time positions, eight [30:23] of which [30:23] which are paramedics. [30:24] in addition, there was a request [30:25] for [30:25] for the -- increased part-time [30:26] hours [30:27] hours for sun parlor homes staff [30:29]  staff. [30:29]  staff. [30:29] across all departments, 29 new [30:33] positions [30:33] positions were proposed during [30:34] the [30:34] the budget process. [30:35] through the administrative review [30:38] review process, that this was [30:40] carefully [30:40] carefully evaluated based on organizational [30:42] organizational priorities and [30:43] fiscal [30:43] fiscal capacity. [30:43] in the end, 11 full-time positions [30:46] positions were prioritized and [30:47] concluded [30:47] concluded in the proposed budget [30:49]  budget. [30:49]  budget. [30:49] these lima the recommendations [30:49] by [30:51] by our director of human resources [30:52] resources at the october 15 council [30:55] council meeting. [30:56] looking ahead to 2026, our overall [30:59] overall reserve position is generally [31:00] generally on track, which is great [31:01] great news. [31:01] though there are still a few areas [31:03] areas that will need careful attention [31:05] attention. [31:05] our capital reserve remains underfunded [31:07] underfunded, which continues to [31:08] be [31:08] be a challenge since we rely on [31:10] it [31:10] it for large-scale -- pressures [31:12] on [31:13] on the reserve will come from [31:14] the [31:14] the ems master plan which includes [31:16] includes several capital projects [31:17] projects. [31:17] to address this, we have built [31:19] in [31:19] in a plan to add $1 million to [31:21] the [31:21] the levy each year for the next [31:22] nine [31:23] nine years, gradually repaying [31:23] what [31:24] what we're using now. [31:24] these reserves will also be important [31:27] important for the sun parlor homes [31:29] homes project whether that ends [31:30] up [31:30] up being a major redevelopment [31:31] or [31:31] or rebuild depending on the results [31:33] results of the feasibility study [31:35]  study. [31:35] study. [31:35] the rate stabilization reserve [31:36] is [31:36] is slightly above target range [31:37] of [31:37] of 10% of the levy. [31:39] we will continue to monitor that [31:40] throughout [31:40] throughout the year. [31:40] reserves are critical because [31:42] they [31:42] they help us plan for the long  long term [31:44] long term, to -- keep tax rates [31:45] stable [31:45] stable when costs arrive and balance [31:49] balance affordability between [31:50] today's [31:50] today's pacs -- today's taxpayers [31:51] taxpayers and those in the future [31:52] future. [31:52] it can be tempting to use reserve [31:54] reserve debt hold taxes down, [31:57] this [31:57] this isn't a sustainable approach [31:58] approach. [31:58] the real focus needs to remain [32:00] on [32:00] on aligning service levels with [32:02] proper [32:02] proper funding. [32:02] by the end of 2026, total reserves [32:05] reserves are projected to decrease [32:06] decrease by 56 million. [32:06] that is largely due to the planned [32:10] planned investments and roadway [32:11] expansion [32:11] expansion projects. [32:11] as noted in the funding model [32:13] shared [32:13] shared with councilor this year [32:14] , debt [32:16] debt for the roadway expansion [32:17] program [32:17] program may be required as early [32:18] as [32:18] as 2028. [32:19] the good news is we have a plan [32:22] to [32:22] to gradually replenish the reserve [32:23] reserve over the 20 year program [32:24] [32:24] . [32:24] using our reserves also affects [32:28] our [32:28] our investment income potential [32:29] . [32:29] interest income is estimated in [32:31] the [32:32] the 2026 budget. [32:32] we are in a good position on that [32:35] that front despite reserves reducing [32:36] reducing by 56 million. [32:37] the 2026 budget faces several [32:42] inherent [32:42] inherent risks, many of which [32:44] are [32:44] are outside the control of administration [32:46] administration and council. [32:47] key challenges include potential [32:48] provincial [32:48] provincial funding reduction, [32:51] rising [32:51] rising ems call volumes and off-load [32:53] off-load delays, escalating cost [32:54] for [32:55] for construction and essential [32:56] supply [32:56] supply and global inflation pressures [32:58] pressures. [32:58] additionally, factors like winter [33:01] winter maintenance expenses, collective [33:02] collective bargaining outcomes [33:03] and [33:03] and increasing demand for social [33:05] services [33:05] services and affordable housing [33:07] could [33:07] could significantly impact budget [33:08] budget outcomes. [33:08] council will be informed of any [33:10] unforeseen [33:10] unforeseen budget pressures throughout [33:12] throughout the year with strategies [33:13] strategies developed to address [33:14] them [33:14] them as needed. [33:14] for the average homeowner with [33:18] a property [33:18] property assessed at 350,000, [33:21] county [33:21] county taxes are projected to [33:22] increase [33:22] increase by $51.84 for the year [33:23] . [33:23] just a reminder that the assessed [33:27] assessed values are still being [33:28] held [33:29] held at 2016 assessment rates [33:31] and [33:31] and there is no indicator of a [33:32] reassessment [33:33] reassessment in the near future [33:34] . [33:34] it's a modest and manageable increase [33:37] increase, one that balances rising [33:39] rising service demand due to growth [33:40] growth in inflationary cost and [33:41] the [33:41] the need to keep long-term finances [33:42] finances stable. [33:42] the number could shift slightly [33:44] based [33:45] based on final tax policy decisions [33:47] decisions which will be made in [33:48] [33:48] february of 2026 when council [33:49] confirms [33:49] confirms rates. [33:49] at this point, we do not foresee [33:53] any [33:53] any provincial changes on the [33:54] horizon [33:54] horizon that we believe would [33:55] significantly [33:55] significantly affect the county [33:56]  county's [33:56] county's tax rate but there is [33:58] a potential [33:59] potential factor to keep an eye [34:00] on [34:00] on which is the affordable renting [34:04] renting subclass. [34:05] depending when and how it's implemented [34:06] implemented, it could have a minor [34:08] minor impact on the tax rate percentage [34:10] percentage but likely not a major [34:11] major one. [34:11] this depends of council chooses [34:14] to [34:14] to apply it and how many properties [34:16] properties would be eligible. [34:17] overall, we are in a strong position [34:19] position with the balance and [34:21] responsible [34:21] responsible tax increase. [34:22] in summary, the 2026 council budget [34:24] budget is sustainable. [34:26] it supports residence, protects [34:28] infrastructure [34:28] infrastructure and positions the [34:29] county [34:30] county to meet needs. [34:30] we will now move on to the departmental [34:33] departmental presentation where [34:34] each [34:34] each leader will provide details [34:35] on [34:35] on their 2026 budget. [34:36] >> any questions on the overview [34:42]  overview? [34:42]  overview? [34:42] seeing none. [34:46] there is a recommendation that [34:53] county [34:54] county council received the report [34:55] report budget overview, treasuries [34:57] treasuries report as information [35:00]  information, [35:00] information, and that the 2026 [35:03] budget [35:03] budget package be received for [35:05] public [35:05] public deliberation. [35:06] looking for a mover and a seconder [35:08] seconder. [35:08] deputy warden deck and did by [35:10] councilor [35:10] councilor meloche. [35:12] any discussion? [35:14] all in favour? [35:15] I will ask you to vote electronically [35:17] electronically. [35:17] is there a question? [35:28] I'm going back to the same people [35:32] people every time because no one [35:33] is [35:34] is raising their hands. [35:34] we will see the same names written [35:36] written on the minutes. [35:37] thank you for recognizing that [35:38] . [35:38] I am asking those that raise their [35:47] their hands. [35:47] that is carried. [36:15] thank you. [36:15] that's quite the team at the table [36:20] table now. [36:20] we will begin with the departmental [36:25] departmental presentations. [36:25] first one up is the community [36:28] services [36:28] services residential services. [36:28] [36:28] we have the director of legislative [36:32] legislative and legal services [36:34] . [36:34] we have the director of health [36:37] and [36:37] and community services at sun [36:39] parlor [36:39] parlor homes. [36:39] and our manager of community services [36:41] services here to present. [36:42] over to you, team. [36:42] >> thank you. [36:45] as council is well aware, the [36:51] council [36:51] council's community services division [36:52] division has been for the past [36:53] number [36:53] number of years house within the [36:55] legislative [36:55] legislative and legal services [36:56] department [36:57] department. [36:57] however, effective january first [36:58]  january first, [36:58] january first, 2026, it will transition [37:00] transition to the county health [37:02] and [37:02] and community services department [37:03] department. [37:03] this budget presentation as a [37:07] transition [37:07] transition time with both myself [37:08] and [37:09] and the county director of health [37:10] health and community services [37:11] assisting [37:11] assisting with the presentation [37:11] of [37:12] of the community services budget [37:13]  budget. [37:13]  budget. [37:13] the bulk of today's presentation [37:15]  presentation, [37:15] presentation, as per usual, will [37:17] be [37:17] be handled by the county manager [37:18] of [37:18] of committee services. [37:19] county manager of community services [37:26] services. [37:26] >> good morning. [37:27] first and foremost, I want to [37:29] thank [37:29] thank our fantastic finance team [37:31] for [37:31] for providing our small but mighty [37:35] mighty program throughout the [37:40] year [37:40] year. [37:40] so thank you, marcy, heidi and [37:43] terry [37:43] terry, who is now on maternity [37:45] leave [37:45] leave. [37:45] the community services division [37:49] includes [37:49] includes three main programs. [37:50] first, the residential services [37:54] homes [37:54] homes program provides a financial [37:55] financial subsidy for vulnerable [37:58] individuals [37:59] individuals placed in residential [38:00] residential care homes, such as [38:01] retirement [38:01] retirement homes and lodging homes [38:02] homes. [38:02] the county currently has a service [38:07] service agreement with nine homes [38:08] homes throughout the county and [38:09] we [38:10] we support a total of 226 individuals [38:11] individuals within the program [38:12] . [38:12] secondly, the county has been [38:19] overseeing [38:19] overseeing the operation of a [38:22] service [38:22] service delivery of various homelessness [38:23] homelessness programs delivered [38:24] by [38:24] by the essex county homelessness [38:25] hub [38:25] hub. [38:25] these programs include a drop [38:30] in day [38:31] day program where individuals [38:32] experiencing [38:32] experiencing homelessness or at [38:32] risk [38:33] risk of losing their housing can [38:35] access [38:36] access support and services to [38:37] either [38:37] either obtain housing or remain [38:38] housed [38:38] housed. [38:38] in addition, the essex county [38:43] homelessness [38:43] homelessness hub also began offering [38:46] offering an overnight program [38:47] in july of [38:47] july of 2025, to respond to an [38:49] increasing [38:49] increasing number of individuals [38:51] experiencing [38:52] experiencing homelessness. [38:52] the county outreach services and [39:00] the [39:00] the county emergency shelter program [39:01] program also -- services also [39:07] provided [39:07] provided to the essex county homelessness [39:08] homelessness hub. [39:09] finally, the community services [39:11] department [39:11] department also includes the operational [39:12] operational funding to support [39:13] 12 [39:15] 12 affordable housing units for [39:15] youth [39:16] youth and other vulnerable populations [39:17] populations at the bridge in leamington [39:20] leamington. [39:20] the residential services homes [39:28] program [39:28] program has been experiencing [39:29] some [39:29] some challenges in the last several [39:30] several years. [39:31] with an increase of people experiencing [39:34] experiencing homelessness, the [39:35] program [39:35] program has seen an evolving client [39:39] client base with complex needs [39:40] . [39:40] we are also seeing an increase [39:42] in [39:42] in demand for services which has [39:44] resulted [39:45] resulted in our program being [39:46] at capacity [39:46] capacity and having a wait-list [39:47] . [39:47] in addition, regional transportation [39:51] transportation continues to be [39:52] a barrier [39:52] barrier to ensure that the residents [39:56] residents have access to health  health care [39:57] health care appointments within [39:57] the [39:57] the city and that's remains one [40:02] of [40:02] of our largest challenges. [40:03] further, we are experiencing a [40:07] lack [40:07] lack of capacity in our program [40:09] , which [40:10] which leaves us with very little [40:11] room [40:11] room for contingency planning [40:14] or few [40:14] few options when addressing emergency [40:15] emergency situations in our communities [40:16] communities. [40:16] in addition, the residential services [40:21] services home providers have identified [40:22] identified significant financial [40:26] pressures [40:26] pressures which are a result of [40:28] an [40:28] an increase cost of food, utilities [40:30] utilities, mortgages and staffing [40:30] staffing. [40:30] this also presents a recruitment [40:35] and [40:35] and retention challenge for the [40:36] homes [40:37] homes, as they are not able to [40:38] compete [40:38] compete with other health care [40:41] agencies [40:41] agencies when hiring staff that [40:42] are [40:43] are in high demand professions [40:44] . [40:44] there has been a 30% increase [40:53] in usage [40:54] usage year-over-year in all homelessness [40:55] homelessness programs with the [40:56] exception [40:57] exception of the emergency shelter [40:58] shelter program, which has supported [41:00] supported the same amount of individuals [41:01] individuals as last year. [41:02] the essex county homelessness [41:04] hub [41:04] hub has averaged 428 visits per [41:09] month [41:09] month with a total of just over [41:13] 4800 [41:14] 4800 visits from january first [41:15] to [41:16] to october 31st. [41:16] I should also note that since [41:22] the [41:22] the beginning of the program in [41:23] september of [41:24] september of 2022, there has been [41:26] been a total of just over 13,500 [41:31] visits [41:31] visits at the essex county homelessness [41:32] homelessness hub. [41:32] in addition, the essex county [41:37] homelessness [41:37] homelessness hub has supported [41:39] 45 [41:40] 45 individuals with finding housing [41:41] housing in the same time frame [41:42] of [41:43] of first to october 31st. [41:43] the warming centre was operational [41:48] operational last winter from december [41:49] december ninth to march 31st. [41:50] they received a total of 935 visits [41:55] visits in this time frame. [41:56] on the other hand, the overnight [42:01] program [42:01] program, which began its operation [42:02] operation in july of 2025, received [42:05] received a total of 1545 visits [42:09] between [42:10] between july 21st and october [42:10]  october 31st. [42:10]  october 31st. [42:10] therefore, there has been a significant [42:18] significant increase in the utilization [42:19] utilization of this program compared [42:20] compared to last year. [42:21] the county outreach services program [42:23] program has supported 102 unique [42:27] individuals [42:27] individuals from january first [42:28] to [42:28] to october 31st, with a total [42:31] of [42:31] of 997 visits. [42:31] encampment tracking only started [42:36] on [42:36] on may first and the team has [42:38] intervened [42:38] intervened and supported a total [42:40] of [42:41] of 22 individuals in four different [42:44] different encampments. [42:44] at the time of gathering the information [42:49] information for this report, there [42:51] there were three active encampments [42:53] encampments in the county. [42:53] I should also note that encampments [42:56] encampments are defined as containing [42:59] containing two or more content [43:02] or [43:03] or structures, therefore there [43:04] are [43:04] are many more areas where individuals [43:07] individuals are sleeping outside [43:08] but [43:09] but those are not considered official [43:10] official encampments. [43:10] the county emergency shelter motel [43:16] motel program has also been busy [43:17] this [43:17] this year. [43:18] as I indicated before, this was [43:22] the [43:23] the program that did not see the [43:26] same [43:26] same overall 30% increase as the [43:28] other [43:28] other homelessness programs that [43:28] that [43:29] that was partially due to the [43:32] reduction [43:32] reduction in the bed's that we [43:34] have [43:35] have in that program. [43:36] if you remember, when we had the [43:37] program [43:38] program last year and the year [43:41] before [43:42] before, we had four emergency [43:47] shelter [43:47] shelter beds situated at that [43:48] home [43:48] home. [43:48] since determination of the program [43:51] program, we no longer have those [43:52] beds [43:52] beds. [43:52] even though the number has remained [43:55] remained the same, the number [43:58] of individuals [43:59] individuals served, the program [43:59] has [44:00] has been very busy up to october [44:06] 20 -- october 31st, the [44:07] the program provided emergency [44:09] housing [44:10] housing to 28 individuals, and [44:12] successfully [44:12] successfully found housing for [44:13] 24 [44:13] 24 of those individuals. [44:14] the other people either left willingly [44:19] willingly or were referred to [44:20] another [44:20] another shelter that could best [44:21] meet [44:21] meet their needs. [44:22] when needed, we have added an [44:26] additional [44:26] additional motel room to accommodate [44:28] accommodate emergencies. [44:28] in addition, the average length [44:30] of [44:31] of stay for this program was approximately [44:33] approximately 57 days. [44:33] and finally, we continually -- [44:37] we [44:37] we continue to provide meals on  meals on wheels [44:38] meals on wheels and food carts [44:39] that [44:39] that we -- to people we support [44:41] in [44:41] in this program. [44:41] >> as council knows, the county [44:45] continues [44:46] continues to advocate for increased [44:47] increased funding from provincial [44:48] provincial and federal governments [44:49] governments to address housing [44:50] and [44:50] and homelessness needs throughout [44:52] throughout the county. [44:52] in the meantime, continue to address [44:54] address a significant increase [44:55] in [44:55] in those sick -- those experiencing [44:57] experiencing homelessness in the [44:58] county [44:58] county. [44:58] there's been a 30% increase in [45:00] those [45:01] those accessing support offered [45:02] by [45:03] by the county homelessness hub [45:03] . [45:03] aside from increased visits, homelessness [45:05] homelessness has been more visible [45:06] visible in the county this year [45:07] with [45:08] with the county having to address [45:09] address and cameron's for the [45:11] first [45:11] first time since 2025. [45:12] council recently approved the [45:14] regional [45:14] regional affordable housing strategy [45:15] strategy which will hopefully [45:16] assist [45:16] assist in addressing affordability [45:17] affordability issues. [45:17] as that strategy was recently [45:20] improved [45:20] improved, there are no cost to [45:22] the [45:23] the strategy included in the draft [45:25] draft budget. [45:25] the county will use 2026 to consult [45:27] consult with local myths of polities [45:28] polities on a strategy and will [45:30] report [45:30] report back to council in the [45:31] months [45:31] months to come. [45:32] the overall budget for community [45:38] services [45:38] services is 3.7 million. [45:40] the bulk of the funds require [45:42] the [45:42] the county community service budget [45:43] budget funded from provincial [45:44] dollars [45:44] dollars and to a lesser extent [45:46] federal [45:47] federal dollars. [45:47] the county's 2026 budget is seeking [45:49] seeking an increase of just over [45:51] 438,000 [45:52] 438,000 to be funded from the [45:53] county [45:53] county levy and that amount is [45:54] comprised [45:55] comprised of three items. [45:55] the first is for an operational [45:58] increase [45:58] increase. [45:58] just over 20,000 required for [46:01] contractual [46:01] contractual increases in wages [46:02] and [46:02] and benefits. [46:02] the second is to support a per  per diem [46:06] per diem increase to move the [46:08] per diem [46:08] per diem from $60 per day to $65 [46:11] per [46:11] per day in residential services [46:12] homes [46:12] homes program. [46:12] just over 300,000 is required [46:15] for [46:15] for that item. [46:16] that item contingent on the city [46:19] also [46:19] also approving the per diem budget [46:20] budget increase in its budget. [46:21] [46:21] finally, the third component of [46:25] that [46:25] that amount is being requested [46:26] in [46:27] in this budget for an overnight [46:28] program [46:28] program increase. [46:28] just over $110,000 required for [46:32] that [46:33] that item. [46:33] the county is receiving the bulk [46:35] of [46:35] of the funds required for the [46:37] overnight [46:37] overnight program for provincial [46:38] and [46:38] and federal dollars. [46:38] they will continue funding the [46:41] overnight [46:42] overnight program december 31 december 31st [46:44] december 31st 2026, the county [46:45] contribution [46:45] contribution required is $110,000. [46:46] contribution required is $110,000. [46:46] again, in 2026, the draft budget [46:56] before [46:56] before council seeks to support [46:58] maintaining [46:58] maintaining county overnight program [46:59] program until december 21st 2026. [47:00] program until december 21st 2026. [47:00] it seeks to support the county [47:03] residential [47:03] residential services providers [47:05] in [47:05] in addressing inflationary pressures [47:06] pressures. [47:06] service levels can be maintained [47:08] and [47:08] and dig deeper into regional affordable [47:10] affordable housing strategy with [47:10] counties [47:11] counties and local minutes of [47:12] polities [47:12] polities. [47:12] they can eventually be made to [47:14] county [47:14] county council to advance the [47:15] strategy [47:15] strategy. [47:15] in 2026 the county will continue [47:20] to [47:21] to foster collaboration between [47:22] residential [47:22] residential service providers, [47:23] other [47:23] other service providers and health care [47:24] health care services for county [47:26] will [47:26] will continue to provide homelessness [47:28] homelessness services to the  the county [47:28] the county homelessness hub, will [47:30] will continue to advocate levels [47:31] of [47:31] of government for additional funding [47:32] funding to address homelessness [47:33] and [47:33] and to increase the number of [47:36] affordable [47:36] affordable housing units. [47:36] with that, we will now conclude [47:39] the [47:39] the presentation of the community [47:40] community services budget with [47:41] one [47:41] one of the success stories that [47:42] have [47:42] have come from her program. [47:43] >> thank you. [47:44] today, I am going to share lucy's [47:50] lucy's story with all of you. [47:52] as usual, we afford privacy purposes [47:54] purposes. [47:54] lucy is a fabricated name for [48:00] this [48:00] this situation. [48:00] lucy is a senior who was experiencing [48:05] experiencing homelessness in one [48:05] of [48:06] of our smaller county communities [48:09] communities. [48:09] a concerned municipal leader contacted [48:12] contacted our department to seek [48:13] support [48:13] support for this person, as business [48:17] business owners and other concerned [48:18] concerned citizens were worried [48:18] about [48:19] about her. [48:19] the county outreach worker immediately [48:23] immediately attended the situation [48:24] situation and assess the client [48:26] , who [48:27] who appeared to be extremely vulnerable [48:28] vulnerable. [48:28] the outreach worker then reached [48:32] out [48:32] out to the community services [48:34] team [48:34] team, and together, they worked [48:37] with [48:37] with one of our residential services [48:38] services home providers, who assessed [48:41] assessed this vulnerable individual [48:42] individual the same day and opened [48:45] opened up an additional bed in [48:47] his [48:47] his home for her. [48:48] it turns out that this person [48:54] had [48:54] had not received regular health  health care [48:56] health care in years, and her [48:57] health [48:57] health card was 20 years expired [48:59]  expired. [48:59] expired. [48:59] to complicate things, she was [49:01] being [49:01] being financially taken advantage [49:05] advantage of, and although she [49:06] received [49:06] received a decent income, she [49:08] didn't [49:08] didn't have access to it. [49:09] fast forward three months, lucy [49:12] is [49:12] is thriving in a retirement home [49:16]  home. [49:16]  home. [49:16] she is receiving regular health  health care [49:18] health care, and she has been [49:20] assigned [49:20] assigned a public guardian to [49:22] manage [49:22] manage her finances, to avoid [49:23] any [49:23] any further financial abuse. [49:24] she claims that she has never [49:27] been [49:27] been happier and she is living [49:29] her [49:29] her best life. [49:29] thank you. [49:30] >> thank you. [49:34] >> with that, we are happy to [49:39] answer [49:39] answer any questions. [49:40] >> are there any questions regarding [49:45] regarding community services residential [49:46] residential homes services homes [49:47] 2026 [49:47] 2026 widget estimates? [49:47] start with councilor deyong. [49:49] >> I think you mentioned something [49:55] something, and I'm hoping you [49:57] can [49:57] can give more details, our homelessness [50:01] homelessness funding program has [50:02] doubled [50:02] doubled since 2024. [50:03] most of that is this year. [50:05] I think is 300,000 increase, the [50:06] homelessness [50:06] homelessness program line. [50:08] do you want the line number? [50:09] 5112. [50:09] I think you said something in [50:16] your [50:16] your comments about the $300,000 $300,000. [50:19] your comments about the $300,000 $300,000. [50:19] I'm wondering if you can let us [50:20] -- [50:23] -- what the increases. [50:24] in 2024, it was 429. [50:26] it went up to six. [50:28] this year it is almost nine. [50:29] >> with the provincial dollars [50:36] that [50:36] that we received from the city [50:38] , they [50:39] they give us a pot of money and [50:40] it [50:41] it goes in between, in and out [50:43] of [50:43] of line. [50:43] I believe, and I didn't look as [50:45] you [50:45] you were speaking, but if you [50:47] notice [50:47] notice, you will notice an offset [50:49] offset at another line. [50:50] there is a residential services [50:51] home [50:51] home. [50:51] how they calculate that has changed [50:52] changed. [50:52] but they shifted dollars elsewhere [50:56] elsewhere. [50:56] for this year, for example, we [50:57] have [50:58] have to regroup and thought an [51:01] outreach [51:02] outreach worker would be better [51:03] . [51:03] so it just goes to another line [51:04] . [51:04] but we have had the same pot of [51:06] money [51:06] money from 2024 and 2025. [51:08] they are saying it will be the [51:10] same [51:11] same for 2026. [51:11] >> I think you are talking about [51:16] the [51:16] the transitional relocation costs [51:17] costs, which is the line above [51:18] . [51:18] so we are still talking $100,000 [51:20] difference [51:20] difference. [51:20] >> no, it is the residential services [51:28] services homes per diem and the [51:29] homelessness [51:29] homelessness program. [51:29] the transitional relocation costs [51:31] costs are funded dollars for the [51:35] transition [51:35] transition. [51:35] it is still $100,000 difference [51:39] . [51:39] down 200,000 on five 1:30. [51:56] but up 300,000 on five '01 two. [51:58] 50 1:30 5102. [52:05] >> as we do the math I can confirm [52:08] confirm the provincial dollars [52:09] receive [52:09] receive has not changed. [52:10] we will work on the mass of that [52:14] but [52:14] but I can confirm that the city [52:15] has [52:16] has not given us any additional [52:18] provincial [52:18] provincial dollars. [52:18] >> further? [52:23] >> I guess I music my old budget [52:27] to [52:28] to look at what was levy versus [52:30] reserve [52:30] reserve funding, which I wish [52:32] was [52:32] was on this year's budget because [52:34] because I think it's really helpful [52:36] helpful to know what's impacting [52:37] the [52:37] the tax rate at the end of the [52:39] day [52:39] day. [52:39] that's what we are here for, and [52:41] it's [52:41] it's not on this budget. [52:42] I brought my old one to help with [52:44] with that. [52:44] in terms of the number I am asking [52:46] asking for, and I do understand [52:49] you [52:49] you are putting the provincial [52:50] dollars [52:51] dollars in certain categories, [52:51] is [52:54] is it my understanding that this [52:56] has [52:56] has no impact on the tax rate [52:58] at all [52:58] all? [52:58] these dollars specifically that [52:59] I [52:59] I am talking about. [53:00] >> I can help. [53:03] in my presentation, I talked about [53:07] about -- let me find the notes [53:10] here [53:10] here. [53:10] the amount that would effect the [53:14] county [53:15] county levy for this year is just [53:16] just over $438,000. [53:18] that was broken down in those [53:21] three [53:21] three items. [53:21] one is 20,000 for contractual [53:25] increases [53:25] increases wage and benefits, the [53:26] second [53:27] second is the per diem increase [53:28] that [53:30] that the city is bringing in their [53:32] their budget, they've asked to [53:33] bring [53:33] bring in ours. [53:33] that's just over $300,000. [53:36] and the overnight program, if [53:37] it goes [53:38] goes to december 31st, in addition [53:39] addition to provincial and federal [53:40] federal funding, we would need [53:42] just [53:42] just over $110,000 in county funding [53:44] funding. [53:44] that's a total of 438,000. [53:46] that is more than what was asked [53:48] for [53:48] for last year. [53:49] if that helps. [53:49] >> the 300 I heard was for the [53:56] per diem [53:56] per diem, which I'm glad to see [53:57] . [53:57] I think that is really necessary [53:59]  necessary. [53:59]  necessary. [53:59] to go back to the lines I am talking [54:02] talking about, specifically the [54:03] homelessness [54:03] homelessness programs and the [54:06] residential [54:06] residential service -- now you [54:10] said [54:10] said service home for pdm is a [54:12] tax [54:12] tax increase. [54:12] I am confused. [54:13] you said it's provincial dollars [54:14]  dollars. [54:14]  dollars. [54:14] >> the first $60 would be provincial [54:20] provincial dollars. [54:20] we are trying to top that up with [54:22] with the additional five dollars [54:24] to [54:24] to make it sustainable. [54:25] the five-dollar increase is where [54:26] where you see the levy contribution [54:28] contribution. [54:28] it is our county dollars. [54:30] $309,000 for the residential home [54:34] home increase is a levy and it [54:36] does [54:36] does affect the tax rate. [54:37] as well as the overnight program [54:39]  program. [54:39]  program. [54:39] we are doing what we can with [54:42] the [54:42] the provincial dollars to open [54:44] it [54:45] it as many days as we possibly [54:46] can [54:47] can. [54:47] however, there is a shortfall [54:48] of we [54:48] we want to run a 306 to five days [54:50] days a year. [54:51] that will be -- that will affect [54:52] the [54:53] the levy and that is just over [54:54] $110,000 [54:56] $110,000, that increase there. [54:57] [54:57] >> I am finding this quite confusing [55:06] confusing. [55:06] the homelessness program is increased [55:07] increased by 300,000 but our per per diem [55:09] per diem, which we know is impacting [55:11] impacting the levy, shows in production [55:12] production. [55:12] so this is very confusing to me [55:14] . [55:14] I will just trust that what you [55:17] are [55:17] are saying makes sense because [55:18] it [55:18] it doesn't make sense on my piece [55:20] piece of paper that shows the [55:21] per diem [55:21] per diem cost from 2025 going [55:23] down [55:23] down, even though we are increasing [55:24] increasing it. [55:25] but the homelessness program which [55:27] which is provincially funded is [55:29] going [55:29] going up at the funding dollars [55:30] haven't [55:31] haven't changed. [55:31] so I'm a little confused. [55:32] but I will move on. [55:33] >> anyone else? [55:38] councilor bailey. [55:47] >> this is tough work not only [55:49] putting [55:49] putting the budget together but [55:50] the [55:51] the work that you do. [55:52] I want to thank you for sharing [55:54] the [55:54] the story about lucy and all of [55:56] the [55:56] the work that gets done with our [55:57] vulnerable [55:58] vulnerable populations. [55:58] I also want to thank you for what [56:01] what appears to be a conservative [56:02] conservative lens on a very difficult [56:04] difficult subject, recognizing [56:04] that [56:05] that really this is a maintenance [56:07] maintenance of level of service [56:08] and [56:09] and some continuation around -- [56:09] the [56:11] the five-dollar per diem increase [56:13] increase, I am very pleased to [56:16] see [56:16] see. [56:16] I assume the city will also be [56:21] tabling [56:21] tabling that within their budget [56:23] for [56:23] for their discussions. [56:24] I am wondering whether or not [56:26] the [56:26] the five dollars that we will [56:31] love [56:31] love the as a result will be transferred [56:33] transferred to the service manager [56:34] manager from the county to the [56:36] city [56:36] city, the additional five dollars. [56:37] city, the additional five dollars. [56:37] I'm also wondering whether or [56:42] not [56:42] not this could be brought back [56:43] if [56:43] if the city fails to match my [56:45] -- my [56:45] my anticipation and hope is that [56:46] they [56:47] they will. [56:47] I'm sure they will. [56:49] but whether or not this could [56:50] be brought [56:50] brought back for consideration [56:51] should [56:52] should the city not choose to [56:53] match [56:53] match. [56:53] also, I'm happy to table the motion [56:56] motion contained here when you [56:57] are [56:57] are ready. [56:58] >> through wharton, thank you [57:07] for [57:07] for your question and thank you [57:08] for [57:08] for your positive feedback. [57:09] we certainly appreciated. [57:10] as for the potential per diem [57:14] increase [57:14] increase, how the funding works [57:18] , the [57:18] the city gives the county the [57:20] money [57:20] money to cover the entire per  per diem [57:21] per diem. [57:21] we would just be complementing [57:24] what [57:24] what they are already giving us [57:25] , and [57:27] and then they would be pulling [57:29] , hopefully [57:29] hopefully, from there municipal [57:32] dollars [57:33] dollars to complement the total [57:34] amount [57:34] amount for the city homes. [57:36] I hope that answers your question [57:37] question. [57:37] >> I should also add, the 65-dollar [57:43] 65-dollar per diem is not solely [57:44] funded [57:44] funded by provincial dollars and [57:47] county [57:48] county dollars. [57:48] it is also income that the residents [57:50] residents themselves may earn, [57:51] whether [57:52] whether it's pension income or [57:53] disability [57:53] disability income. [57:53] >> thank you. [57:56] councilor bondy. [57:56] >> thank you, warden. [58:01] I want to thank you for everything [58:02] everything you do. [58:03] this is a question that I have [58:04] today [58:05] today. [58:05] you may not have the answer today [58:07] today. [58:07] if you have to follow up by email [58:08] email, I understand. [58:09] the 226 beds, how long have we [58:12] had [58:12] had 226 bed? [58:13] does that grow at all with the [58:16] needs [58:16] needs, the demand for need? [58:17] and then I have a couple of other [58:21] other questions. [58:21] but I'm looking to see, do we [58:23] have [58:23] have did we have 226 beds 10 years [58:25] years ago? [58:26] are we looking to grow more beds [58:27]  beds? [58:27]  beds? [58:27] the housing issues aren't going [58:29] to [58:30] to go away. [58:30] maybe we need to have a discussion [58:34] discussion going to 240 beds in [58:36] the [58:36] the future, 250 beds. [58:37] I don't know if you can answer [58:39] that [58:39] that. [58:39] and then I have a couple of other [58:41] other statements. [58:41] >> thank you for the question. [58:44] for at least 10 years, we have [58:49] had [58:50] had 226 beds. [58:50] that number is determined by the [58:57] service [58:58] service manager. [58:58] so they allocate funding to a [59:00] total [59:00] total number of beds for the region [59:02] region. [59:02] the county portion of those beds [59:04] are [59:04] are 226. [59:04] >> thank you. [59:08] 226 beds for 10 years. [59:11] that is not keeping up with inflation [59:16] inflation of the need in the  the county [59:17] the county of essex. [59:18] my next question is, I believe [59:20] a couple [59:21] couple of council meetings ago [59:22] , maybe [59:22] maybe three innings ago, we sent [59:24] a [59:24] a letter to the city of windsor [59:26] asking [59:26] asking them to meet on this. [59:27] unfortunately, we didn't get to [59:29] meet [59:29] meet on anything. [59:30] unity service, social service, [59:31] before [59:32] before this budget. [59:33] do you know if that letter has [59:34] been [59:35] been received by the city, and [59:36] if [59:37] if the city is going to [59:38] if the city is going to [59:38] if the city is going to [59:38] come to the [59:39] the table and talk about our fair [59:40] fair share of services? [59:41] [59:41] [59:41] [59:41] >> we've got an email acknowledging [59:45] acknowledging they have received [59:46] the [59:46] the letter but there has been [59:47] no formal [59:48] formal response to date. [59:48] >> thank you. [59:49] I will just go on public record [59:55] again [59:55] again saying that the city really [59:56] really needs to start having a [59:57] conversation [59:58] conversation with the county. [59:58] if it's not county council, it [1:00:01] needs [1:00:02] needs to be county administration [1:00:04] administration. [1:00:04] part of our strategic goal is [1:00:06] looking [1:00:06] looking at how we can get our [1:00:08] fair [1:00:08] fair share. [1:00:08] we are not getting our fair share [1:00:10] share. [1:00:10] 226 beds for 10 years, having [1:00:13] no growth [1:00:13] growth in those beds in the county [1:00:14] county when we have needs. [1:00:15] we have encampments as well. [1:00:18] my last comment is I don't -- [1:00:20] this [1:00:20] this is really good information [1:00:21] . [1:00:21] I got a little bit emotional but [1:00:23] I [1:00:23] I don't want to wait until 2027 [1:00:25] to [1:00:26] to get more data on this particular [1:00:27] particular topic. [1:00:27] I actually think, we were just [1:00:31] at [1:00:31] at our police service board, we [1:00:32] added [1:00:32] added at our police service board [1:00:34] board homeless and can't mince [1:00:36] into [1:00:36] into the strategic plan. [1:00:37] homeless issues into the strategic [1:00:39] strategic plan at the opp board [1:00:40] north [1:00:40] north. [1:00:40] we need to be on this issue. [1:00:43] as elected officials, I would [1:00:45] like [1:00:45] like to be informed on this issue [1:00:47] issue, either quarterly or every [1:00:48] three [1:00:48] three months. [1:00:48] we need to not let this get worse [1:00:52] worse and worse and worse. [1:00:53] we need to be very vocalwe need to be very vocal to the [1:00:57] upper levels of government [1:00:57] upper levels of government and [1:00:58] the [1:00:58] the city of windsor that the status quo [1:01:01] status quo is not acceptable and we're [1:01:02] we're only as good as our most vulnerable people. [1:01:04] vulnerable people. [1:01:04] we have many loose in our community [1:01:07] community and if they are doing poorly [1:01:09] poorly, we are failing. I [1:01:10] I want to thank you for all your work [1:01:12] work you are doing. [1:01:12] thank you. [1:01:14] >> councillor rogers. >> thank [1:01:19] >> thank you and through you, great work [1:01:20] great work that everybody is doing [1:01:20] doing. [1:01:20] I'm -- it makes a big ball you're moving [1:01:30] you're moving worth it. [1:01:30] there's federal funding [1:01:31] there's federal funding [1:01:31] there's federal funding [1:01:31] there. [1:01:32] about 100,000 or so up there. [1:01:33] is this guaranteed funding moving [1:01:36] moving into the future the first foresee [1:01:39] foresee a top up that's continually [1:01:40] continually happening or is this top [1:01:43] top up now what's guaranteeing [1:01:44] the current [1:01:44] the current service we have through the next [1:01:45] through the next year when we [1:01:47] see future budgets [1:01:47] see future budgets. [1:01:47] >> it doesn't directly align with [1:01:58] with the county budget process [1:02:00] . [1:02:00] it's through year end. [1:02:01] the dollars we are seeking through december 31st, [1:02:03] through december 31st, 2026. [1:02:05] I believe that's correct. [1:02:06] each year the city tells us what her allocation from [1:02:10] her allocation from the provincial [1:02:13] provincial and federal dollars on behalf [1:02:14] on behalf of the region is and [1:02:15] that [1:02:16] that dollar figure was the same last [1:02:17] last years it is this year. [1:02:18] there's no indication of any increase [1:02:19] increase or decrease -- I can't really tell [1:02:25] really tell you about that. [1:02:25] >> think you further. If [1:02:29] if I could just expand on that hypothetically [1:02:30] hypothetically if the funding is [1:02:34] the [1:02:34] the same for next year, next budget [1:02:37] budget we've already banked in [1:02:38] that increase [1:02:39] that increase so theoretically [1:02:39] there [1:02:39] there should be no increase in less [1:02:41] less funds or cut. Is that how [1:02:42] is that how I understand it? [1:02:42] >> through you I just want to [1:02:51] comment [1:02:51] comment on the cost of doing the [1:02:54] service [1:02:54] service. [1:02:54] this is the cost of $2026 so that's [1:03:00] that's just one comment the expenses of doing [1:03:02] expenses of doing the program might continue [1:03:05] might continue to increase which we [1:03:06] we might have to cover unless the provincial funding [1:03:07] the provincial funding also increases [1:03:07] increases. [1:03:07] there's also 70,000 home funding [1:03:13] which is a federal funding that [1:03:14] which is a federal funding that [1:03:14] covers this [1:03:14] covers this. [1:03:14] that's only confirmed until 2028 2028. [1:03:21] 2028. [1:03:21] so that's also a potential where there's [1:03:22] there's 70,000 right now helping us [1:03:26] us find that program, that potentially might not be [1:03:27] potentially might not be there in the future [1:03:27] in the future. [1:03:27] >> thank you very much, I appreciated. [1:03:36] appreciated. [1:03:36] in terms of the 2026 beds -- 226 beds we've had [1:03:41] beds we've had that number the [1:03:41] last [1:03:43] last ten years and there is need growing [1:03:45] growing out in the community. [1:03:46] I'm happy to see the 5-dollar increase for [1:03:50] increase for the per diem and those [1:03:55] those different service levels [1:03:56] but I want to [1:03:56] but I want to drill home the point before we [1:03:58] point before we expand beds to ensure we [1:04:03] ensure we are taking care of those [1:04:05] those 226 to ensure the service [1:04:06] providers [1:04:08] providers -- have the funding [1:04:15] and resources [1:04:15] and resources they need to ensure were [1:04:16] ensure were taking care of our most vulnerable [1:04:17] most vulnerable before you look [1:04:18] at bringing [1:04:19] at bringing that number up at [1:04:21] all. [1:04:21] all. [1:04:21] I'm a firm believer we have to [1:04:22] take [1:04:22] take care of our own house before [1:04:24] before we look outside and I think in terms of [1:04:27] think in terms of expanding that that, [1:04:27] that, I don't think a conversation [1:04:30] conversation with the city -- I think that's our conversation [1:04:31] think that's our conversation [1:04:31] with the [1:04:32] with the province so to me that's the bigger conversation [1:04:36] that's the bigger conversation [1:04:36] . Supportive [1:04:36] supportive of this and I will be [1:04:40] your [1:04:40] your second or whenever you are ready. [1:04:40] ready. [1:04:40] thank you. [1:04:42] >> thank you. [1:04:43] councillor. >> through you just a quick [1:04:47] >> through you just a quick question on encampments [1:04:47] question on encampments and the cost. [1:04:52] cost. [1:04:52] I understand encampments and there [1:04:54] there must be a number of different [1:04:55] different budget lines attached [1:04:56] you break them [1:05:00] you break them up -- that's all I need to [1:05:02] I need to know. [1:05:02] >> through you the county directly dealt [1:05:09] directly dealt with one this year [1:05:12] year. I [1:05:12] I believe it was broken up in [1:05:15] a variety [1:05:15] variety of different budget lines [1:05:16] lines as we have different departments dealing with [1:05:17] departments dealing with it. [1:05:17] a legal services on-site and for [1:05:25] cleanup cost afterwards and [1:05:25] cleanup cost afterwards and assisted the [1:05:25] assisted the locals as well [1:05:27] assisted the locals as well [1:05:27] assisted the locals as well [1:05:27] an encampment in the county of [1:05:51] essex [1:05:52] essex true cost is to taxpayers [1:05:53] . [1:05:53] thank you. [1:05:55] >> thank you. Councillor [1:05:58] councillor. >> thank [1:05:59] >> thank you through you I only have [1:06:01] have one question -- were seeing [1:06:03] 226 in [1:06:04] 226 in the county and it's been like [1:06:06] like that for ten years. [1:06:07] it's determined by the service manager which is the [1:06:09] manager which is the city. [1:06:09] do we ever review that? [1:06:13] obviously in the past ten years [1:06:13] the county [1:06:13] the county has grown quite a bit [1:06:16] and [1:06:17] and we have the same issues now the [1:06:17] the county and in the city centre [1:06:21] centre. [1:06:21] at what point do we review the allocations [1:06:24] allocations between the city and county [1:06:26] county or are we part of that discussion [1:06:26] discussion? [1:06:26] >> my understanding is when the program was [1:06:37] program was instituted the city [1:06:40] itself [1:06:41] itself and the 226 beds in the county and that number [1:06:44] county and that number remains [1:06:44] -- [1:06:45] -- it just remain static. [1:06:51] it certainly conversation we could have with [1:06:51] could have with administration [1:06:52] if council wants us [1:06:56] if council wants us to. [1:06:56] >> anyone else? I'm going to [1:07:02] I'm going to read the recommendations [1:07:02] recommendations. [1:07:02] -- I'm giving everybody two looks around [1:07:09] looks around because get your hands [1:07:12] hands up early or you're going [1:07:13] to get [1:07:13] to get missed. [1:07:14] >> just for some clarification [1:07:17] as well when we [1:07:17] as well when we make references [1:07:17] the overall proposed for the [1:07:22] the overall proposed for the 26 budget [1:07:24] budget and we look at net of recoveries [1:07:25] recoveries. [1:07:25] the total of 1.2 million is an increased [1:07:31] increased -- they make reference [1:07:32] stated [1:07:34] stated from 2025 budget 760 -- [1:07:38] ... [1:07:38] so I can understand is these numbers [1:07:49] numbers are needed are we referring [1:08:02] referring to the city there's an [1:08:03] increase [1:08:03] increase here we're looking more [1:08:04] money for them? To [1:08:04] to help. >> through you [1:08:10] >> through you ward and we definitely communicated [1:08:10] definitely communicated team have communicated that on Several [1:08:15] definitely communicated team have communicated that on Several [1:08:15] several occasions that we obviously [1:08:19] obviously need this service on [1:08:20] where always looking for Additional provincial [1:08:22] where always looking for Additional provincial [1:08:22] additional provincial dollars. [1:08:22] [1:08:22] we've fought in other years and [1:08:26] if [1:08:27] if there's ever any surpluses, they've been [1:08:28] they've been good at allowing [1:08:30] us to shift [1:08:31] to shift the surplus dollars somewhere [1:08:33] somewhere else. [1:08:33] however they typically don't know [1:08:34] know if there's any service dollars [1:08:35] dollars until closer to the end of march [1:08:35] of march. [1:08:35] but they do know we have a need and [1:08:42] and are using additional municipal dollars to continue With [1:08:44] and are using additional municipal dollars to continue With [1:08:44] with these programs. [1:08:44] if there's any additional or federal dollars... [1:08:51] federal dollars... >> [1:08:51] >> so through you those dollars are actually [1:08:55] are actually at risk. [1:08:56] >> three u. I believe I highlighted that [1:09:03] highlighted that as a risk so the [1:09:04] the budget will not be approved until [1:09:05] until the end of january so there's a [1:09:06] there's a risk with that. [1:09:08] they've confirmed it's a best [1:09:12] estimate [1:09:12] estimate at this time and that's [1:09:13] what we gave in [1:09:13] what we gave in our budget. [1:09:13] >> okay and any reference to the [1:09:19] mention of federal dollars [1:09:20] mention of federal dollars I think was [1:09:22] think was -- those again our dollars [1:09:27] dollars that had the flow-through [1:09:27] flow-through the service manage -- [1:09:33] -- manager of the city? [1:09:35] >> that's correct. Further reaching [1:09:37] further reaching home and it can [1:09:38] be [1:09:38] be added if she would like. [1:09:39] there's a committee that decides [1:09:40] what to [1:09:41] what to do with those dollars [1:09:42] so it's [1:09:43] it's a bit different than the other [1:09:44] other provincial dollars but they've allocated [1:09:47] they've allocated 70,000. >> I [1:09:53] >> I guess my question would be [1:09:55] to administration [1:09:55] to administration then if those dollars [1:09:56] dollars that are at risk and obviously [1:09:59] obviously you've heard around [1:10:02] the [1:10:02] the table in terms of the requirements we [1:10:03] requirements we are seeing obviously homelessness [1:10:03] obviously homelessness is becoming a critical [1:10:06] becoming a critical issue for [1:10:09] u us. [1:10:09] us. [1:10:09] we've seen the encampments. [1:10:11] now even our own municipality [1:10:13] we are faced with [1:10:15] are faced with an encampment rate [1:10:15] rate as we speak. [1:10:15] so I'm glad to see administration will continue to [1:10:24] administration will continue to [1:10:24] dedicate [1:10:24] dedicate funding who us. [1:10:28] obviously I don't know if it will be contravening the [1:10:33] obviously I don't know if it will be contravening the [1:10:33] arrangement, the signed agreement [1:10:36] agreement that we have that the [1:10:38] city as [1:10:38] city as a service provider and [1:10:38] so [1:10:38] so forth. [1:10:40] but will administration come back to [1:10:44] back to us? [1:10:44] I'm sure you will in terms of making up the difference [1:10:47] making up the difference because [1:10:47] obviously [1:10:48] obviously there is a requirement [1:10:51]  requirement. [1:10:51] requirement. [1:10:51] there's a huge requirement that's [1:10:54] that's there and if those [1:10:54] dollars are direct risk -- the reserve [1:11:00] reserve fund that we have. >> [1:11:05] >> through you those dollars are for [1:11:09] for the capital, the social housing [1:11:11] housing capitals what the reserve was intended to [1:11:12] reserve was intended to support [1:11:12] . [1:11:12] if it does come to that we would definitely [1:11:16] definitely come back to council at [1:11:18] at that time depending on the dollar value [1:11:19] dollar value of what we would [1:11:20] need to compensate for [1:11:20] need to compensate for. [1:11:20] we would have to make the decision at [1:11:26] decision at that time but it would have to [1:11:27] would have to come to council [1:11:28] if there [1:11:29] there were additional dollars required for this [1:11:30] required for this. >> and finally [1:11:33] >> and finally I think it's very important and I know we [1:11:34] important and I know we keep pushing [1:11:34] pushing back the meeting with [1:11:37] the city [1:11:37] the city and so forth but I think [1:11:38] think it's critical we are at the crossroads here in [1:11:43] the crossroads here in terms of requirements [1:11:43] requirements in particular in [1:11:49] 25 years [1:11:49] years working on the same agreement [1:11:51] agreement there needs to be improvements [1:11:52] improvements. [1:11:52] >> thank you. [1:11:57] anybody else? [1:11:57] I'm going to read the recommendation [1:12:04] recommendation. [1:12:04] there's a recommendation before council [1:12:06] council that the presentation [1:12:07] for [1:12:07] for the proposed 2026 community services residential [1:12:10] services residential services budget [1:12:11] budget be received and further the [1:12:13] the 2026 budget estimates community services residential Services [1:12:17] the 2026 budget estimates community services residential Services [1:12:17] services be received or received and [1:12:20] and approved. [1:12:20] I'm looking to you councillor [1:12:21] bailey [1:12:21] bailey. [1:12:21] >> a question if I could. [1:12:26] would you preferred to be a separate motion [1:12:28] separate motion or integrated into this [1:12:28] into this one? [1:12:30] I'd like to see the 5-dollar increase per diem [1:12:33] increase per diem forward subject [1:12:34] subject to the city matching that [1:12:35] that, I think it's really essential [1:12:36] essential at a time when we're talking [1:12:39] talking about partnership that we are lockstep. [1:12:40] we are lockstep. [1:12:40] that's our intention -- [1:12:44] >> I will look to the madam clerk [1:12:45] clerk. [1:12:45] >> could amend that wording provided [1:12:52] provided that the city of windsor increase [1:12:55] windsor increase by $5 as well [1:12:55] . [1:12:55] >> madame morden, may I speak to this [1:13:03] this motion because it's changed a [1:13:05] a little? [1:13:06] >> I wanted to wait to get it [1:13:11] up on the [1:13:11] on the board if you don't mind just so we have [1:13:12] just so we have a clearly in front of us [1:13:13] front of us. [1:13:26] the revised motion should be in [1:13:31] your screens [1:13:31] your screens. [1:13:31] >> first I will look to the mover. [1:13:37] mover. [1:13:37] you are good with the rewording [1:13:37] ? [1:13:37] then we will get a second or. [1:13:42] you are good with that madame councillor [1:13:51] councillor? [1:13:51] seconded by councillor rogers. [1:13:55] [1:13:55] I will open the floor to you councillor bailey [1:14:01] councillor bailey. [1:14:01] bondy. Too [1:14:01] too many bees here. >> thank you. [1:14:07] >> thank you. [1:14:07] I will be supporting the motion [1:14:09] . My worry is [1:14:10] my worry is let's say the city [1:14:11] of windsor [1:14:11] of windsor does not and we want [1:14:11] to [1:14:11] to because we realize maybe it's more expensive [1:14:17] more expensive to provide services in [1:14:18] services in the county because [1:14:18] we [1:14:19] we are rural and people have to [1:14:19] drive father [1:14:20] drive father -- further and all that [1:14:23] that stuff. [1:14:23] would it be a reconsideration [1:14:25] vote if [1:14:25] vote if it has to come back? [1:14:26] I'm worried if the city does not supported [1:14:27] supported them our folks are just left [1:14:30] just left hanging. That's my only [1:14:33] that's my only worry. [1:14:33] >> a new motion would have to be brought [1:14:38] brought to provide a standalone [1:14:43] 5-dollar increase on behalf [1:14:43] 5-dollar increase on behalf of the county [1:14:43] the county. [1:14:43] anyone else? Councillor [1:14:49] councillor rogers query. >> thank [1:14:51] >> thank you enter you again maybe a [1:14:53] maybe a little more clarification [1:14:53] clarification. [1:14:53] if and when the city makes their decision and if and [1:14:57] decision and if and when they [1:14:58] are opposed [1:14:58] are opposed either way they land on [1:15:00] on it, is that a discussion that [1:15:02] will come [1:15:02] will come forward as an update from administration [1:15:03] from administration for us to [1:15:04] be able [1:15:04] able to make the motion? [1:15:06] knowing the process it's not going [1:15:08] going to have to be a notice of motion [1:15:09] motion. [1:15:09] were going to have that within the [1:15:11] the agenda as an update on be able to [1:15:13] able to have the discussion at [1:15:15] that [1:15:16] that time. [1:15:16] >> through you ward and, administration [1:15:18] administration will return with results [1:15:19] results of the budgeting process [1:15:20] to confirm either way the [1:15:21] to confirm either way the decision [1:15:21] decision. [1:15:21] >> any further questions then? [1:15:25] seeing none, councillor bondy did you have [1:15:28] did you have further comment? [1:15:28] you see my dilemma, right? [1:15:35] trying to make sure of got everybody covered and [1:15:37] everybody covered and also be [1:15:38] quick [1:15:38] quick devote. [1:15:41] asking to vote electronically, [1:15:41] please. [1:15:42] please. [1:15:42] and that's carried. Thank [1:15:52] thank you. [1:15:54] thank you team. [1:15:56] next up is the sun par lindholm. [1:16:03] for the report we have natasha she [1:16:05] she learned -- here to present [1:16:08] . [1:16:08] this is a first for you. [1:16:14] don't be nervous, nobody bites [1:16:16] here. At [1:16:17] here. At [1:16:17] at least not -- they're just little [1:16:18] little. [1:16:18] >> thank you ward and to council council. [1:16:23] council. Good morning, [1:16:23] good morning, everyone. [1:16:23] presenting the 2026 budget I'd like to start [1:16:29] like to start off with some thank [1:16:29] thank youse to the finance team as [1:16:33] as well as leadership team across the board as [1:16:35] across the board as the warden [1:16:36] mention this is my [1:16:36] mention this is my first year presenting [1:16:36] presenting. [1:16:36] bear with me as I make my way through the presentation [1:16:44] through the presentation. [1:16:44] the mission statement before you won't be unfamiliar [1:16:50] won't be unfamiliar. [1:16:50] many of you have seen this before [1:16:52] before and prior presentations [1:16:52]  presentations... This continues to [1:17:00]  presentations... This continues to [1:17:00] this continues to serve as the fundamental [1:17:03] fundamental service of the home. [1:17:05] it guides our actions and goals [1:17:06] . At [1:17:06] at sun pilar we envision a high-performing [1:17:09] high-performing vibrant home that welcomes diversity across Staff [1:17:14] high-performing vibrant home that welcomes diversity across Staff [1:17:14] staff and residents. [1:17:15] empowering to foster meaningful [1:17:20] relationships [1:17:21] relationships based on compassion [1:17:22] compassion, innovation and dignity [1:17:23] dignity that creates an environment [1:17:24] environment where people want [1:17:26] to live [1:17:27] live and work. [1:17:28] where residents experience excellent quality of [1:17:29] excellent quality of life and care built on shared [1:17:30] care built on shared values. [1:17:30] the budget before you today addresses [1:17:34] addresses changing aging demographic [1:17:38] demographic which continues to [1:17:39] increase [1:17:40] increase in complexity and acuity. [1:17:42] acuity. [1:17:42] however this budget proposed to you today [1:17:44] you today seeks to meet the needs across that [1:17:46] needs across that continuum of [1:17:46] care [1:17:48] care while running a home that [1:17:50] everybody [1:17:50] everybody across the county of [1:17:51] essex can be proud of [1:17:51] essex can be proud of. [1:17:51] the remainder of the presentation [1:17:57] presentation is broken down by departments [1:17:59] departments within the home. [1:17:59] as you can see the overall increase [1:18:03] increase of approximately 620,000 relates [1:18:06] 620,000 relates to both nonunion [1:18:07] and contractual [1:18:07] and contractual wage increases [1:18:09] and [1:18:10] and wage benefits as well. [1:18:12] there's an increased ongoing replacement [1:18:18] replacement of it equipment, laptops, smart [1:18:19] laptops, smart phones, et cetera [1:18:21]  cetera. [1:18:21] cetera. [1:18:21] there were rolls previously aligned to the [1:18:26] aligned to the sun parlour budget [1:18:26] budget so now we are seeing -- [1:18:30] that were previously [1:18:32] that were previously aligned to [1:18:32] various departmental [1:18:33] various departmental budgets. [1:18:33] for example, we are now seeing [1:18:36] hr [1:18:37] hr resources to the sun par lindholm [1:18:39] lindholm budget and expense within [1:18:39] within the sun parlour home budget [1:18:40] budget before you here today. [1:18:40] next up we turn to nursing and [1:18:47] personal care. [1:18:47] the biggest difference here within [1:18:52] within sun parlour home the budget last [1:18:55] budget last year was around $8 million while the projection [1:19:00] $8 million while the projection [1:19:00] notes [1:19:00] notes and overspend we're expecting [1:19:01] expecting to maintain a balanced [1:19:03] budget [1:19:03] budget due to an increase in ministry [1:19:05] ministry funding that we have [1:19:06] received. Going into [1:19:06] received. Going into [1:19:06] going into 2026 you will notice [1:19:10] a [1:19:10] a decreased budget reflected down [1:19:12] down by approximately $1 million as [1:19:13] as we continue to see increased support from the [1:19:14] support from the province. [1:19:14] we had the four hours of care target [1:19:19] target set by the ministry which is [1:19:21] is also supported by levy funding [1:19:23] funding. [1:19:23] the budget is designed to deliver [1:19:26] deliver exemplary care and services. [1:19:27] services. [1:19:27] we are also welcoming our new director [1:19:28] director of care and an anticipated [1:19:33] anticipated nurse practitioners [1:19:34] so we can [1:19:36] so we can better understand the opportunities we have and [1:19:37] opportunities we have and increase the [1:19:37] increase the quality of care and experience for residents at [1:19:41] experience for residents at sun parlor home [1:19:41] parlor home. [1:19:41] a few other key considerations [1:19:47] you want [1:19:48] you want to note is increased [1:19:51] cost related [1:19:51] cost related to membership fees [1:19:51] specific [1:19:51] specific to our rn group. [1:19:52] we are now paying for annual college memberships [1:19:57] college memberships and contractual obligations [1:19:57] contractual obligations for our staff [1:19:58] staff. [1:19:58] next up we turn to life enrichment [1:20:04] enrichment. [1:20:04] it's comprised of recreation aids [1:20:11] aids and physiotherapy assistance [1:20:11] assistance. It promotes [1:20:11] it promotes the health and well-being [1:20:15] well-being of residents through engagement, wellness activity [1:20:17] engagement, wellness activity and ultimately contributes [1:20:17] and ultimately contributes towards healthy happy [1:20:20] towards healthy happy residents. [1:20:22] [1:20:22] with a high quality of life -- [1:20:28] approximately [1:20:30] approximately 140,000 in this [1:20:32] increase [1:20:32] increase is directly related to [1:20:34] support for recreation aids [1:20:36] support for recreation aids as well [1:20:37] well as union contractual wage [1:20:40] increases [1:20:41] increases and purchase service increases for physiotherapy [1:20:45] increases for physiotherapy. [1:20:57] you will see an increase here based solely on [1:21:01] based solely on contractual -- contractual [1:21:05] contractual wage increases and cost related to [1:21:05] cost related to food. [1:21:05] the increase around 23,000 is [1:21:19] directly related to contractual Wage [1:21:19] directly related to contractual Wage [1:21:19] wage increases in inflationary cost [1:21:19] cost. [1:21:19] were seeing an increase attributing [1:21:29] attributing to our contractual [1:21:30] wage increases [1:21:31] wage increases and inflationary [1:21:32] costs [1:21:32] costs related to supplies for this [1:21:32] this department. [1:21:45] we are also seeing an increase [1:21:47] in [1:21:48] in related to external contracts [1:21:55] that are rising [1:21:56] that are rising with inflation [1:21:57] as [1:21:57] as well. [1:21:58] and we continue with many items across the [1:22:01] across the home to replace based [1:22:04] on [1:22:05] on life expectancy and lifecycle of [1:22:05] of those items. [1:22:05] when we look at our other capital line [1:22:12] capital line here the bulk of the [1:22:13] the budget is reserved bonded. [1:22:15] [1:22:15] however we are spending less in [1:22:19] 2026. That [1:22:21] 2026. That [1:22:21] that being said we ultimately need to make [1:22:22] need to make some decisions around [1:22:24] around capital costs related to renovations [1:22:28] renovations or investments in [1:22:30] new building [1:22:30] new building which will be further [1:22:31] further supported by a feasibility [1:22:32] feasibility study we are concluding [1:22:32] concluding in 2026. [1:22:35] there will be recommendations coming to [1:22:37] coming to council once that study is [1:22:41] study is concluded. [1:22:41] in summary the overall 2026 budget [1:22:48] budget for sun parlor home net recoveries [1:22:49] recoveries totals around 14 million. [1:22:51] 14 million. [1:22:51] this is a 0 percent increase over the [1:22:53] over the 2025 budget which is reflective [1:22:55] reflective of ministry funding enhancements [1:22:55] enhancements and leveraging provincially [1:23:01] provincially funded grants on investments [1:23:02] investments to enhance or quality of [1:23:03] quality of care as and when they become [1:23:04] become available. [1:23:04] as we look forward to 2026 and [1:23:10] the initiatives [1:23:11] the initiatives outlined on the slide [1:23:12] slide here before you we will [1:23:15] see there's a [1:23:15] see there's a few key priorities [1:23:16] that ensure we maintain building [1:23:16] that ensure we maintain building [1:23:16] standards [1:23:16] standards, regulations and enhanced functionality [1:23:21] enhanced functionality across [1:23:25] very old home. [1:23:25] very old home. [1:23:25] our focus is on the quality of [1:23:28] life for [1:23:29] life for residents we are surveying while maintaining that Aging [1:23:31] life for residents we are surveying while maintaining that Aging [1:23:31] aging infrastructure. [1:23:31] with that I will conclude and welcome [1:23:35] welcome any questions or comments from council. [1:23:38] comments from council. [1:23:38] thank you. [1:23:39] >> thank you, well done. [1:23:43] we will start with you councillor [1:23:43] councillor rogers. >> thank [1:23:45] >> thank you and through you I can tell [1:23:47] can tell you we appreciate the leadership [1:23:50] leadership and I think were headed in the [1:23:51] headed in the right direction [1:23:53] so thank [1:23:53] thank you for that. [1:23:53] I know we have a feasibility study coming. [1:23:56] study coming. [1:23:56] big elephant in the room with this building [1:23:59] this building and a lifecycle [1:24:00] decision to [1:24:00] decision to make. Maybe a [1:24:01] maybe a couple of questions. [1:24:02] one is do we have any idea how much it [1:24:05] much it costs to renovate per room [1:24:08] room? [1:24:08] >> through you the last item we have [1:24:16] have on that I believe was grey county [1:24:18] county. That [1:24:18] that was constructed a couple [1:24:21] of years ago [1:24:21] years ago. I [1:24:21] I believe now. That was [1:24:22] that was $500,000 per bed. >> big number [1:24:27] >> big number. [1:24:27] and just in terms of lifecycle of the [1:24:32] of the whole facility do we have [1:24:32] any [1:24:32] any idea what that date is? [1:24:36] approximately. [1:24:36] won't hold you in stone. >> through [1:24:45] >> through you, warden we have a [1:24:48] 50 year replacement cycle on [1:24:48] 50 year replacement cycle on the [1:24:48] building [1:24:50] building. However [1:24:50] however it's a little unique when we [1:24:53] when we have these standards we have [1:24:54] have to meet as well. [1:24:55] it's not just the building, it's meeting [1:24:58] meeting up to these different [1:24:59] standards [1:24:59] standards typically. [1:25:00] so just have to keep that in mind as [1:25:00] mind as well. >> thank [1:25:04] >> thank you and final question [1:25:04] , how [1:25:05] how much do we have in the bank [1:25:07] allocated towards facility total Facility [1:25:09] allocated towards facility total Facility [1:25:09] facility replacement? [1:25:09] >> through you, ward in. [1:25:17] that's incorporated into our capital. [1:25:19] capital. [1:25:19] and capitol we have it split out [1:25:21] in [1:25:21] in there and I know we've been saving as much [1:25:24] saving as much as we can and I [1:25:25] do [1:25:26] do think we have -- I believe [1:25:27] it's about [1:25:27] it's about 30 million saved. However I [1:25:30] however I will get back to you to [1:25:31] to confirm that but I do know [1:25:35] anytime we [1:25:35] anytime we can, we're talking [1:25:36] a way money [1:25:36] way money there and knowing in the [1:25:37] the future we are going to do something [1:25:38] something. [1:25:38] >> thank you and final one now that [1:25:43] that big number in the future, [1:25:44] what is it [1:25:44] what is it? [1:25:44] won't hold you to it but an estimate [1:25:51] estimate. We have [1:25:51] we have to save $100 million for a new hospital [1:25:52] a new hospital. [1:25:52] it's a billion-dollar hospital a couple of [1:25:56] couple of years ago. [1:25:56] >> I will speak and not provide [1:26:02] a [1:26:03] a number with the feasibility [1:26:04] study [1:26:04] study being done to give us the numbers, to [1:26:07] numbers, to give council a good indicator of what that [1:26:09] indicator of what that will look like [1:26:09] like but on that, natasha will add [1:26:15] add. >> thank [1:26:15] >> thank you. [1:26:16] one other piece I would -- a slight peace of [1:26:17] slight peace of mind if I may is the ministry supplemental [1:26:21] the ministry supplemental support [1:26:22] support for rebuilds and redevelopments [1:26:24] redevelopments, it's at an all-time [1:26:26] all-time high. [1:26:26] so I guess what I might offer is the [1:26:30] the 85 percent support from the ministry [1:26:33] ministry may give us a bit of [1:26:37] a competitive [1:26:37] competitive advantage over what municipal partners [1:26:38] municipal partners would exceed. [1:26:40] [1:26:40] while we do not have the specifics [1:26:43] specifics here today I think it's an opportune [1:26:44] it's an opportune time to be having these conversations [1:26:49] having these conversations and [1:26:50] certainly appreciated [1:26:50] certainly appreciated we don't have specifics [1:26:51] have specifics here but we will come back with those [1:26:53] come back with those. >> [1:26:53] >> I appreciated and I'm definitely [1:26:57] definitely jumping the gun soy assume that study [1:26:57] assume that study again will provide [1:26:59] provide the number of beds as well as look [1:27:02] well as look at possible expansion as [1:27:03] expansion as well. [1:27:03] >> I think a key component of the feasibility [1:27:10] the feasibility study looks at population [1:27:10] population growth and how we compared [1:27:13] compared to the broader windsor essex community for [1:27:14] essex community for sure. >> [1:27:14] >> thank you. [1:27:16] >> anyone else? [1:27:16] there is a recommendation for [1:27:28] the [1:27:28] the proposed 2026 sun parlor budget [1:27:30] budget be received and that the 2026 budget [1:27:32] 2026 budget estimates be received [1:27:34] received or received and approved [1:27:37] approved. Looking to council for [1:27:37] looking to council for your wishes [1:27:37] wishes. [1:27:37] councillor prove. Received and approved [1:27:42] received and approved? [1:27:42] >> yes, please. >> [1:27:46] >> thank you. [1:27:46] seconded by councillor deyong. [1:27:54] [1:27:54] any discussion. [1:27:55] I will ask you to vote electronically [1:27:56] electronically, please. [1:28:09] and that's carried. [1:28:23] thank you. [1:28:25] and that's carried. I did [1:28:29] I did say that? [1:28:29] it's 10:27 so I would ask for a [1:28:36] motion to [1:28:37] motion to recess for 15 minute [1:28:38] break. [1:28:38] break. [1:28:38] that motion is essex county councillor recess [1:28:41] councillor recess until -- let's just make [1:28:44] just make it 10:45. [1:28:50] moved by councillor meloche, seconded [1:28:53] seconded by councillor akpata. [1:28:54] all in favour of recess? [1:28:54] that's carried. [1:28:57] thank you. [1:28:59] [1:28:59] [1:28:59] [1:28:59] [1:29:19] [1:29:19] [1:29:19] [1:29:19] [1:29:19] [1:29:19] >> are 15 minutes have passed rather quickly [1:47:32] rather quickly so we're ready to [1:47:33] resume [1:47:34] resume our budget deliberations. Next [1:47:34] next up we have our chief of essex windsor [1:47:40] essex windsor emergency medical services here to provide [1:47:42] services here to provide presentation [1:47:42] presentation regarding the ems [1:47:46] 2026 budget [1:47:47] 2026 budget. [1:47:47] just and, you are up. >> good [1:47:49] >> good morning and thank you. [1:47:50] [1:47:50] I'm pleased to present the proposed [1:47:53] proposed 2026 ems departmental budget [1:47:55] budget for consideration. The account -- [1:47:57] the account -- is present... As well as [1:48:02] as well as speak to challenges and [1:48:02] and issued during development [1:48:05] of the [1:48:05] the 2026 budget. [1:48:05] presenting the budget and two components [1:48:11] components through the funding of [1:48:13] of each aspect. Versus medical services and [1:48:14] versus medical services and the [1:48:14] second for [1:48:17] second for volunteer care. For [1:48:18] for clarity emergency management [1:48:19] has [1:48:20] has been moved under -- over under the leadership [1:48:20] under the leadership of health and safety [1:48:23] and safety in human resources... [1:48:25] [1:48:25] the chart on the screen is an overall total of [1:48:30] overall total of expenditures [1:48:31] for [1:48:31] for -- I will address each section of the budget separately [1:48:36] section of the budget separately [1:48:36]  separately. In developing [1:48:36]  separately. In developing [1:48:36] in developing the 2026 budget we [1:48:38] reviewed the [1:48:40] reviewed the current upcoming priorities [1:48:40] priorities with a primary focus [1:48:41] on [1:48:42] on preparing for future growth, continuous quality improvement [1:48:43] continuous quality improvement [1:48:43] , innovation [1:48:43] innovation and response times. [1:48:46] [1:48:46] with that we will begin with the emergency [1:48:50] emergency medical services budget [1:48:52] budget. [1:48:52] the proposed budget is 4.37  4.37 percent [1:48:55] 4.37 percent increase over the [1:48:55] 2025 budget [1:48:57] 2025 budget as it relates to expenditures [1:49:00] expenditures on the county responsibility [1:49:01] responsibility increases... [1:49:01] factors for the proposed budget [1:49:07] are eight paramedics [1:49:07] are eight paramedics including [1:49:07] 12 hour shifts [1:49:08] 12 hour shifts starting in june [1:49:10]  june 2026. [1:49:11] june 2026. [1:49:11] one manager of physical resources [1:49:14] resources to support infrastructure [1:49:14] infrastructure growth. Anticipated [1:49:15] anticipated asset management replacement [1:49:17] replacement of vehicles. [1:49:18] improving the quality work we're [1:49:19] doing in planning for the [1:49:19] doing in planning for the future [1:49:19]  future. [1:49:19] future. [1:49:19] our funding is based on 50  50 percent [1:49:24] 50 percent of the prior year's [1:49:25] budget [1:49:25] budget. [1:49:25] 50 percent funded by the ministry [1:49:27] ministry of health and remaining [1:49:29] 50 percent divided within the Local [1:49:30] 50 percent divided within the Local [1:49:30] local municipal partners based [1:49:33] on weighted assessment [1:49:33] on weighted assessment. [1:49:33] it's estimated the weighted assessment [1:49:35] assessment will continue to increase [1:49:37] increase the county's responsibility [1:49:37] responsibility is development and growth continues to [1:49:38] and growth continues to rise. [1:49:38] every year we conducted disciplinary [1:49:44] disciplinary budget to identify opportunities [1:49:46] opportunities to reduce cost, reallocate [1:49:48] reallocate resources more effectively [1:49:50] effectively and reinvest in areas that [1:49:51] areas that deliver the greatest [1:49:53] impact for operations [1:49:54] impact for operations. We [1:49:54] we continue to advocate for system-level [1:49:56] system-level changes that reduce demand on [1:49:57] demand on 911 in the first place place. [1:50:02] place. [1:50:02] we actively pursue innovative opportunities [1:50:04] opportunities from new technologies [1:50:05] technologies to alternative care [1:50:06] pathways [1:50:07] pathways to deliver better patient outcomes [1:50:07] patient outcomes while delivering [1:50:07] delivering cost and reducing pressure to front-line [1:50:12] pressure to front-line resources [1:50:13]  resources. The [1:50:13]  resources. The [1:50:13] the main system impact on our services call volumes. [1:50:15] services call volumes. [1:50:15] you can see in the chart there's a [1:50:19] a couple projection lines based [1:50:20] on percentage [1:50:20] on percentage increases. [1:50:21] for 2025 looking at 1.5 to 2  2 percent increase [1:50:24] 2 percent increase in responses we [1:50:24] we will no better when the years [1:50:27] concluded [1:50:27] concluded. [1:50:27] on the turkey only projection [1:50:29] line [1:50:29] line is 4 percent and 5 percent. I [1:50:30] I want to make a note that these slides [1:50:33] slides in september where we were forecasting 4.3 [1:50:34] were forecasting 4.3 percent increase [1:50:36] increase. We [1:50:36] we reviewed our numbers on with [1:50:38] q4 [1:50:39] q4 numbers being slightly lower [1:50:40] than previous [1:50:41] than previous at this moment will be [1:50:42] will be under the master plan projection [1:50:43] projection a 4.5 percent for 2025. [1:50:45] 2025. [1:50:45] staffing levels we continue to focus [1:50:49] focus on improving working conditions [1:50:50] conditions to ensure those were [1:50:51] working [1:50:51] working here want to stay here. [1:50:54] [1:50:54] and engage in ongoing recruitment [1:50:55] recruitment efforts locally and [1:50:56] across the [1:50:57] across the province for individuals interested [1:50:57] individuals interested in coming [1:50:59] to work for essex [1:50:59] to work for essex windsor ems. [1:50:59] [1:50:59] ambulance offload delays are occurring [1:51:04] occurring but magnitude has been reduced compared [1:51:05] reduced compared to previous years [1:51:06] years and I'm happy to tell you for [1:51:07] for the month of september and october [1:51:09] october and november of this year [1:51:11] year, were down 32 percent compared [1:51:12] compared to the same period of [1:51:14] time [1:51:14] time last year and were seeing [1:51:15] some movement [1:51:16] some movement. [1:51:16] that's 1267 staff ambulance hours back on her [1:51:19] hours back on her street. [1:51:21] two new 12 hour shifts in the [1:51:27] 2026 budget [1:51:27] 2026 budget through prebudget [1:51:28] approval the [1:51:28] approval the two new ambulances [1:51:28] have [1:51:29] have been ordered and within the [1:51:31] budget eight paramedics [1:51:32] budget eight paramedics requested the operationalize [1:51:33] requested the operationalize let [1:51:33] him as you recall from director [1:51:34] him as you recall from director [1:51:34] of [1:51:34] of hr reporting to council on october 15th [1:51:37] october 15th eight paramedics [1:51:40] were [1:51:40] were being requested and initially we [1:51:42] initially we asked for four primary [1:51:44] primary care and four advanced [1:51:45] care paramedics [1:51:45] care paramedics. [1:51:45] since then we had discussions [1:51:48] with [1:51:48] with the 2974 executive and reversed a [1:51:49] reversed a request for the four acp to convert them [1:51:52] acp to convert them in to pcp. A total [1:51:52] a total of 12 -- the reason for this is currently [1:51:57] this is currently we have open spots on [1:52:00] spots on or scheduled without [1:52:02] working [1:52:02] working that spot it creates a [1:52:05] temporary [1:52:05] temporary full-time position which is unfavourable [1:52:07] which is unfavourable for part-time staff [1:52:08] part-time staff looking to go [1:52:10] permanent [1:52:10] permanent full-time. Understanding [1:52:10] understanding the paramedic positions [1:52:12] positions are likely required [1:52:13] in the foreseeable [1:52:13] the foreseeable future will continue to work [1:52:15] continue to work with the union [1:52:16] executive to [1:52:16] executive to better strategize [1:52:16] on [1:52:17] on how to fill these spots and [1:52:18] if [1:52:19] if there's a time when individuals [1:52:20] individuals within the service [1:52:21] are qualified [1:52:22] are qualified as advanced care paramedics we looked -- [1:52:22] paramedics we looked -- work to [1:52:24] -- [1:52:27] -- through processes allocating percentage of her [1:52:27] percentage of her... [1:52:27] a manager fiscal resource position included beginning [1:52:35] position included beginning of the [1:52:36] the second quarter of 2026 which will support oversight [1:52:38] will support oversight investment [1:52:39] investment facilities and equipment operations [1:52:42] equipment operations during timely [1:52:43] timely efficient and accountable [1:52:45] project [1:52:45] project execution by focusing on [1:52:47] process management [1:52:47] process management, compliance [1:52:48] and preventative [1:52:48] and preventative maintenance to [1:52:49] reduce bottlenecks [1:52:51] reduce bottlenecks, strengthen infrastructure [1:52:52] infrastructure readiness and address findings [1:52:52] address findings from the 2024 ministry review. In line [1:52:55] address findings from the 2024 ministry review. In line [1:52:55] in line with the 2024 master plan refresh [1:52:59] plan refresh the role will help [1:53:00] the service [1:53:01] the service manager growing operational [1:53:02] operational complexity and support future [1:53:02] support future initiatives. [1:53:02] second human capital investment as additional [1:53:08] as additional services provided [1:53:10] by human [1:53:10] by human resources generalist [1:53:12] within human resources to [1:53:12] within human resources to be shared [1:53:13] shared with a long-term care home [1:53:14] home. [1:53:14] the position will provide essential hr [1:53:17] essential hr support to essex [1:53:19] windsor ems [1:53:19] windsor ems by managing recruitment [1:53:21] recruitment, onboarding and compliance [1:53:22] compliance processes ensuring timely [1:53:25] timely hiring and reducing risk through certifications [1:53:26] through certifications on regulatory [1:53:28] regulatory breaches. Delivering front-line [1:53:29] delivering front-line guidance to supervisors and [1:53:29] to supervisors and managers on [1:53:31] investigations [1:53:33] investigations and employee accommodations [1:53:33] accommodations while strengthening return to [1:53:34] strengthening return to work programs to [1:53:37] programs to improve both risk management [1:53:38] management and staff experience [1:53:40] by taking on these additional Responsibilities [1:53:42] by taking on these additional Responsibilities [1:53:42] responsibilities the role will free [1:53:43] free up the hr management focus [1:53:45] on [1:53:46] on strategic initiatives labour relations and long-term Workforce [1:53:47] on strategic initiatives labour relations and long-term Workforce [1:53:47] workforce planning. [1:53:47] some smaller budgetary impact [1:53:52] you will notice maintenance [1:53:52] you will notice maintenance on [1:53:53] technical support is [1:53:53] technical support is being requested [1:53:55] requested for the installation [1:53:56] of ambulances [1:53:56] of ambulances. The transition [1:53:57] the transition to ipads will save money [1:53:59] save money and replacement cost is the [1:53:59] is the previous technology laptops [1:54:03] laptops we're -- expensive. [1:54:04] the transition allows us to leverage [1:54:06] leverage more robust and accurate [1:54:08] accurate mapping software. [1:54:09] we've included slight budget line [1:54:09] line increases the support wellness initiatives [1:54:14] wellness initiatives, public relations and [1:54:15] relations and stayton -- station management [1:54:17] management and repairs. [1:54:18] in 2026 we will plates seven ambulances [1:54:21] ambulances, one logistics vehicle and [1:54:23] vehicle and one administrative vehicle additionally [1:54:23] vehicle additionally as part of the [1:54:25] the capital plan ems will continue [1:54:27] continue to move forward with the facilities [1:54:29] the facilities project while our team manages [1:54:30] team manages the work funding [1:54:32] for the capital projects [1:54:32] for the capital projects is reflected [1:54:33] reflected in the finance budget [1:54:35] as the county owns the [1:54:35] as the county owns the assets. [1:54:35] [1:54:35] I will switch over to community paramedics [1:54:40] paramedics and for long-term care [1:54:41] care. [1:54:41] it's funded 100 percent by the ministry of [1:54:43] ministry of long-term care and [1:54:45] as [1:54:46] as a component of integrated healthcare [1:54:47] healthcare program. New this year [1:54:48] new this year the ministry of long-term care [1:54:48] long-term care and outs funding would be [1:54:51] would be made permanent and essex [1:54:53] essex awaiting on the details [1:54:55] of the allocation [1:54:55] the allocation before we proceed proceed. [1:54:57] proceed. [1:54:57] the program is fully funded by the [1:54:59] the ministry of long-term care and [1:55:01] and there's no requirement for county [1:55:01] county funding. [1:55:01] this slide includes the positions that were [1:55:07] positions that were tabled when we were working [1:55:10] we were working collaboratively with the county [1:55:10] with the county of essex due to the mandate for [1:55:13] the mandate for the levy increase. These did [1:55:16] the mandate for the levy increase. These did [1:55:16] these did not make it but I will speak to each [1:55:18] speak to each one of these as we [1:55:18] go [1:55:18] go through. [1:55:20] additional training hours expanding [1:55:22] expanding training hours for windsor [1:55:24] windsor essex for education that [1:55:28] insures adopting [1:55:29] insures adopting new protocols [1:55:29] such [1:55:30] such as training release and emergency [1:55:32] emergency department diversion [1:55:33] . Support special [1:55:33] support special projects and teams and stay [1:55:35] teams and stay current with mandatory [1:55:36] mandatory updates on best practices. Investment support strengthening [1:55:38] mandatory updates on best practices. Investment support strengthening [1:55:38] investment support strengthening [1:55:38] staff to leadership [1:55:38] staff to leadership, relationships [1:55:43] relationships, fostering resilient [1:55:44] resilient teams and trauma informed [1:55:45] informed care in the service for provincial reforms [1:55:47] provincial reforms without additional [1:55:47] additional hours remains capped [1:55:51] it's important to [1:55:51] it's important to note eight of the [1:55:51] the hours we have are from training. We [1:55:55] the hours we have are from training. We [1:55:55] we have no control over the contents essentially [1:55:57] contents essentially the service [1:55:57] gets [1:55:58] gets eight hours with the stop once per [1:55:58] once per year. [1:55:58] with those eight hours it's going [1:56:05] going to force legislative and operational [1:56:06] operational changes, wellness [1:56:08] on leadership [1:56:08] leadership and updates to compete for [1:56:08] compete for limited time. [1:56:10] we have the pds coming down in [1:56:12] 2027. We [1:56:14] 2027. We [1:56:14] we have new software rolling out [1:56:15] in [1:56:15] in 2026 that we need to train [1:56:17] on it [1:56:18] it. It [1:56:18] it becomes difficult to make that [1:56:19] that happen. [1:56:20] it results in fragmented transfer [1:56:22] transfer, and consistent practice [1:56:24] practice and missed opportunities [1:56:25] opportunities to safeguard staff well-being [1:56:26] well-being built leadership capacity and sustain [1:56:29] capacity and sustain long-term workforce stability. The commander [1:56:30] capacity and sustain long-term workforce stability. The commander [1:56:30] the commander of operations introducing [1:56:34] introducing capacity with an operations [1:56:36] operations department to strengthen [1:56:36] strengthen operational performance [1:56:38] performance by creating oversight deployment [1:56:39] oversight deployment efficiency [1:56:40] and [1:56:40] and realtime issue resolution. [1:56:41] it'll [1:56:41] it'll also enhance staff engagement through increased Leadership [1:56:44] it'll also enhance staff engagement through increased Leadership [1:56:44] leadership presence on mentor ship [1:56:46] ship which builds greater resiliency [1:56:48] resiliency for date -- daily operational [1:56:50] operational issues, large-scale [1:56:51] incidents and [1:56:52] incidents and ensures consistent application [1:56:53] application of policies across the service [1:56:54] the service. [1:56:54] without the position the deputy chief [1:56:56] chief and front-line management [1:56:57] team [1:56:59] team will continue to remain somewhat [1:57:00] somewhat a reactive posture with difficulties in [1:57:01] difficulties in proactive planning [1:57:02] planning result will be ongoing performance [1:57:06] performance gaps and consistent oversight [1:57:06] oversight and limited readiness to [1:57:07] to meet the strategic priorities [1:57:08]  priorities. [1:57:08] priorities. [1:57:08] communications officers, I'm going to [1:57:11] going to speak to this inside of legislative [1:57:15] legislative and legal services [1:57:16] under david's department coming [1:57:17] under david's department coming [1:57:17] from [1:57:18] from essex windsor ems in establishing a [1:57:21] establishing a dedicated communications [1:57:21] communications resource will significantly strengthen [1:57:26] significantly strengthen public [1:57:27] education safety [1:57:27] education safety and engagement [1:57:28] while providing [1:57:28] while providing a reliable framework for [1:57:30] framework for launching community programs [1:57:32] community programs such as our community [1:57:33] community education. [1:57:34] this role will continue to build ems [1:57:37] ems specific brand awareness, [1:57:39] promote recruitment [1:57:39] promote recruitment and retention [1:57:40] retention and enhance county and [1:57:42] ems reputation [1:57:42] ems reputation through consistent [1:57:43] consistent messaging and evidence-based [1:57:44] evidence-based outreach. Boosting [1:57:44] boosting our social media presence particularly [1:57:50] presence particularly video content [1:57:50] content and collaboration with stakeholders [1:57:51] stakeholders the position is anticipated [1:57:53] anticipated to improve recognition [1:57:54] recognition, community trust and [1:57:56] without [1:57:56] without approval ems will remain [1:57:58] dependent on the [1:57:58] dependent on the current communications [1:57:59] communications department support [1:57:59] support which is doing a good job [1:58:01] job but ems does eat up a lot [1:58:03] of their time. There's a lot [1:58:04] of their time. There's a lot [1:58:04] there's a lot happening in ems [1:58:04] and [1:58:06] and we send stuff very frequently [1:58:08] frequently pick the considerable [1:58:09] workload [1:58:10] workload on the department. [1:58:12] community programs coordinator [1:58:14] establishing [1:58:14] establishing a full-time community programs coordinator [1:58:15] community programs coordinator [1:58:15] will [1:58:16] will build on the concert -- the considerable [1:58:19] considerable gains achieved... Across [1:58:21] across our community educating [1:58:22] our youth [1:58:23] our youth, promoting the profession and strengthening [1:58:23] profession and strengthening public [1:58:23] public trust. [1:58:25] the role will ensure consistent [1:58:26] outreach [1:58:27] outreach, training, ongoing program [1:58:32] program expansion and engaging [1:58:33] in [1:58:34] in joint initiatives with other emergency services [1:58:36] emergency services and healthcare [1:58:37] healthcare partners while providing meaningful [1:58:38] providing meaningful opportunities [1:58:39] opportunities for modified duty [1:58:40] personnel [1:58:40] personnel and those returning from operational [1:58:42] from operational stress leave [1:58:43] to reengage [1:58:43] reengage with the uniform before [1:58:45] resuming full front-line duties [1:58:45] resuming full front-line duties [1:58:45] . [1:58:45] by sustaining visibility and proactive engagement [1:58:51] proactive engagement the position [1:58:53] position will enhance ems's reputation [1:58:54] reputation as innovative and community [1:58:56] community focused. [1:58:56] seeking to improve bystander intervention [1:58:58] intervention rates for all emergencies [1:58:58] emergencies, reduce preventable [1:59:01] 911 calls. Without [1:59:02] 911 calls. Without [1:59:02] without approval will be forced [1:59:04] to [1:59:05] to scale back its current presence [1:59:07] presence limiting public education [1:59:09] education, 880 awareness and decreasing [1:59:10] decreasing the momentum that's already been [1:59:11] already been built. [1:59:12] ems systems analyst director of it [1:59:16] it will speak to this but I can [1:59:18] tell [1:59:18] tell you from an ems perspective [1:59:20] because [1:59:20] because it's a very technical [1:59:23] position we have [1:59:23] position we have extensive software and [1:59:23] software and data resources but [1:59:25] they [1:59:25] they are not fully optimized pick the [1:59:27] pick the systems analyst roll would focus [1:59:28] would focus on improving these [1:59:29] tools [1:59:30] tools on driving efficiency and enabling systemwide innovation [1:59:31] enabling systemwide innovation [1:59:31] . [1:59:31] finally vehicle services technician [1:59:37] technician. [1:59:37] with previous on the upcoming vehicle additions to the [1:59:39] vehicle additions to the fleet the workload [1:59:39] the workload on our vehicle support technician [1:59:44] support technician is starting to [1:59:45] to outpace capacity posing risk to preventative maintenance [1:59:48] to preventative maintenance, reliability and compliance [1:59:49] reliability and compliance, introducing [1:59:51] introducing a second will strengthen [1:59:52] strengthen operational performance [1:59:53] performance by ensuring timely [1:59:55] repairs [1:59:56] repairs, inspections and documentation [1:59:57] documentation, reducing reliance [1:59:59] on outsourcing [1:59:59] on outsourcing and providing critical redundancy [2:00:00] critical redundancy during absences [2:00:01] absences or peak demand. [2:00:02] we don't have a backup so when the individuals [2:00:04] the individuals taking vacation [2:00:06] we are outsourcing [2:00:07] we are outsourcing the work. [2:00:08] the added capacity will improve [2:00:10] a [2:00:10] a fit -- available to, safeguard [2:00:13] staff with reliable vehicles and [2:00:14] staff with reliable vehicles and [2:00:14] position the [2:00:14] position the service sustainably and cost-effectively [2:00:18] and cost-effectively. [2:00:18] without the role the model will continue to generate backlogs And [2:00:21] without the role the model will continue to generate backlogs And [2:00:21] and compliance gaps down time leaving the organization [2:00:25] leaving the organization reactive [2:00:25] reactive or unable to meet the demands [2:00:27] demands of the expanding fleet and service [2:00:27] and service delivery model. [2:00:27] in conclusion I thank you for the opportunity [2:00:33] the opportunity to present the proposed [2:00:34] proposed 2026 emergency to service [2:00:36] service -- department budget to [2:00:38] council [2:00:39] council. [2:00:39] I'd like to thank councillors... [2:00:41] [2:00:41] miss heidi macleod, kelly schmidt [2:00:43] schmidt and the essex windsor [2:00:45] senior leadership [2:00:45] senior leadership team for the preparation [2:00:45] preparation of the budget and [2:00:47] I'd like to [2:00:47] I'd like to thank the entire team at [2:00:49] team at essex windsor for the [2:00:51] continued dedication [2:00:51] continued dedication. I'm [2:00:51] I'm open to any questions at council may have [2:00:52] council may have. [2:00:52] >> thanks. Are there [2:00:56] are there any questions regarding [2:00:58] regarding the>> are 2026 budget estimates [2:01:01] estimates there any questions? [2:01:02] ? [2:01:02] starting with you. >> thank you for [2:01:08] >> thank you for the presentation, I [2:01:08] presentation, I [2:01:08] presentation, I [2:01:08] presentation, I [2:01:08] know it is not an easy thing [2:01:11] an easy thing for anyone to do but the [2:01:14] but the one item you cut was the additional [2:01:17] additional training hours and I feel [2:01:20] feel like you did use the word mandatory training that we [2:01:22] mandatory training that we would not be [2:01:23] not be getting if we didn't have those additional [2:01:25] those additional hours. [2:01:25] is that correct? [2:01:26] >> we would have to define mandatory [2:01:32] mandatory but anything that comes down [2:01:33] comes down from the province, [2:01:35] we do have [2:01:35] do have to train and we would try to [2:01:36] try to find ways to do it. Essentially we get [2:01:38] essentially we get one day with all [2:01:38] all of our staff and we pack everything [2:01:41] everything in and then we try to get innovative [2:01:42] get innovative with putting champions on the street [2:01:44] champions on the street, developing [2:01:44] developing field training officer [2:01:48] officer roles and getting them out [2:01:49] out there. Anything mandatory [2:01:50] anything mandatory from the minister [2:01:51] minister of health we would absolutely [2:01:52] absolutely be taking care of the [2:01:53] training and we would leave [2:01:54] training and we would leave that undone [2:01:54] undone. [2:01:54] however, there is more than just that happening [2:01:57] that happening and once a year [2:02:01] out of 12 months we get [2:02:01] out of 12 months we get six weeks in the [2:02:02] weeks in the fall and things have [2:02:05] have happened in february and [2:02:07] march trying [2:02:07] march trying to get that communication and get the [2:02:07] communication and get the training done [2:02:08] training done so it becomes very difficult [2:02:10] difficult. [2:02:10] >> you have asked for an additional [2:02:17] additional 199,935 if we could included [2:02:21] included in the budget. How many [2:02:21] how many ours is that her person [2:02:24] in [2:02:25] in order to get the training that is [2:02:26] that is needed? [2:02:27] training is extremely important [2:02:29] whether [2:02:33] whether you are new or whether [2:02:34] you are seasoned [2:02:35] you are seasoned, training is something we should never [2:02:35] something we should never shove to the [2:02:36] to the side and I would be hoping [2:02:37] hoping that council may see that [2:02:41] this is an [2:02:41] this is an item we should add [2:02:42] to the budget [2:02:42] the budget. [2:02:42] what would that give to each of [2:02:44] our ems workers [2:02:44] our ems workers? [2:02:44] >> another eight hours of training to [2:02:50] training to each paramedic the service. >> thank you [2:02:50] training to each paramedic the service. >> thank you [2:02:50] >> thank you. [2:02:50] >> thank you. [2:02:55] councillor gibb. >> [2:02:56] >> thank you, madam morden. [2:02:56] through you to the chief, could you expand [2:03:01] you expand on this community programs coordinator [2:03:06] programs coordinator and if you could talk more [2:03:06] could talk more about the success [2:03:09] success of our public access defibrillator [2:03:11] defibrillator program and what [2:03:14] you feel [2:03:14] you feel will happen to that program if this [2:03:16] program if this coordinated position is [2:03:18] position is not funded? [2:03:19] >> through you warden, the coordinator [2:03:24] coordinator is a position you [2:03:25] are likely all familiar [2:03:25] are likely all familiar with with the [2:03:28] with the enbridge grant, an individual [2:03:29] individual that works with us [2:03:31] that [2:03:31] that is out on the street promoting [2:03:32] promoting the uptake and use of public [2:03:33] public access defibrillators but [2:03:33] also a big part [2:03:35] also a big part of public education [2:03:38] education. For about [2:03:38] for about a year and a half we have [2:03:40] have been making this work in previous it was [2:03:41] previous it was a piecemeal operation [2:03:42] operation who was not able to be at work [2:03:44] at work, someone on modified duties [2:03:47] duties, we had no running cadence [2:03:49] cadence of a strategy of a plan to make sure we [2:03:50] to make sure we could continue doing [2:03:50] doing it. [2:03:51] when this individual started we had [2:03:56] had roughly 300 public access [2:03:57] defibrillators mapped out on [2:03:57] defibrillators mapped out on the [2:03:57] street, [2:03:59] street, we are over 1400, about [2:04:00] 85 have [2:04:00] 85 have been -- are brand-new [2:04:05] that [2:04:05] that have been installed in organizations [2:04:06] organizations as a result of the work this [2:04:07] work this individual is doing. [2:04:07] [2:04:07] we are starting down the road, [2:04:11] every municipality has [2:04:13] every municipality has supported [2:04:13] that [2:04:15] that and in rotate cabinets, that is [2:04:18] that is the next division to make [2:04:19] make sure it's not locked up behind closed [2:04:21] behind closed doors. Over [2:04:21] over 50 schools, educating over [2:04:22] 2000 people [2:04:24] 2000 people and over 1200 of those being students [2:04:27] those being students and 134 public [2:04:30] public session so what would happen [2:04:30] happen is we would do the best [2:04:31] we [2:04:31] we could with what we have but [2:04:32] it will be fragmented [2:04:32] it will be fragmented. [2:04:32] we would definitely lose the gains [2:04:36] gains that we've had, it would [2:04:37] not be a [2:04:37] not be a hard stop but it would not be what [2:04:40] not be what you see right now. [2:04:41] >> as a follow-up, if I may, you talk [2:04:47] talk about building community resilience, this [2:04:48] resilience, this position builds community resilience [2:04:48] community resilience. [2:04:48] how does that affect in the situations [2:04:55] situations where we have code  code red, [2:04:57] code red, code block, how does it [2:04:57] it assist you and your team to [2:05:00] provide [2:05:00] provide that, you know, life-saving care [2:05:04] life-saving care when the system is stretched [2:05:07] is stretched? [2:05:07] >> I will break that into 2  2 pillars, [2:05:13] 2 pillars, one being the defibrillator [2:05:14] defibrillator. [2:05:14] we know that if a defibrillators [2:05:15] applied within the [2:05:16] applied within the first minute [2:05:17] there is [2:05:17] there is a 90% chance of survival and it goes [2:05:18] survival and it goes down temper [2:05:19] sense every minute after that [2:05:21] sense every minute after that. [2:05:21] the [2:05:21] the more knowing how to do cpr [2:05:26] and have [2:05:26] and have access to a defibrillator [2:05:27] defibrillator and know how to [2:05:28] use it [2:05:28] use it is putting our hands further [2:05:29] further into the community and [2:05:29] leverage [2:05:31] leverage lay responders and that [2:05:34] has [2:05:34] has it's own trajectory is how far we [2:05:35] far we can go with that. The [2:05:36] the other piece is the public [2:05:39] relations, [2:05:39] relations, getting to the schools and [2:05:40] schools and talking to the people and [2:05:41] people and went to call 911 and how to stop [2:05:43] how to stop a bleed, all of these things that [2:05:43] these things that are happening [2:05:45] that [2:05:46] that are educating our youth and our community [2:05:47] our community members to make the [2:05:47] the right call. [2:05:47] that maybe 911 is not the option [2:05:50] or we are improving mortality [2:05:53] or we are improving mortality [2:05:53] rates [2:05:53] rates because they are being able [2:05:57] able to apply basic first aid and skills [2:05:58] and skills while the paramedic [2:05:59] 's are on their [2:06:00] are on their way so every person in the community [2:06:01] in the community that understands [2:06:01] understands our mission and how [2:06:03] they [2:06:04] they can contribute as a good steward of [2:06:04] steward of our community is a bonus for us [2:06:07] bonus for us. [2:06:07] >> thank you very much. [2:06:09] I look to the warden, I would like to [2:06:15] like to make a motion to add this [2:06:16] this position to the budget and I don't [2:06:17] I don't know if now is the appropriate [2:06:18] appropriate time to have the discussion [2:06:19] discussion or if it should wait. [2:06:23] >> what if we take all the comments around the [2:06:26] comments around the table first and [2:06:26] and then when I read the recommendation [2:06:30] recommendation you can add to it [2:06:34]  it, [2:06:34] it, whatever you would like to do. Is that [2:06:35] it, whatever you would like to do. Is that [2:06:35] is that okay? [2:06:35] there may still be some more suggestions [2:06:38] suggestions. [2:06:38] okay, thank you. [2:06:41] councillor bondy. >> [2:06:44] >> thank you warden mcdonald, I [2:06:47] I want to thank the councilmember [2:06:49] councilmember across the table [2:06:50] . [2:06:50] I will easily support that and I'm [2:06:51] I'm hoping the balance to support [2:06:54] support that. [2:06:54] I have a couple questions. When it says excluded [2:06:56] when it says excluded from budget [2:06:57] budget ranked in order, does that mean [2:06:59] that mean that is the order of preference from administration [2:07:01] preference from administration [2:07:01] as a whole [2:07:02] as a whole and how they would like to [2:07:04] like to see if we were to bring any [2:07:04] any positions back? [2:07:04] because the community programs [2:07:07] coordinator [2:07:07] coordinator is ranked number 1 so is that [2:07:12] so is that from an administrative [2:07:13] administrative point of view and I'm talking about [2:07:14] I'm talking about appendix three three, [2:07:16] three, does that mean that position is [2:07:18] position is the most important to [2:07:19] to bring back? [2:07:19] it's appendix three. >> [2:07:32] >> I will speak to appendix three and I [2:07:32] three and I will let chief lammers [2:07:36] lammers speak. What we did as [2:07:36] what we did as senior leadership [2:07:36] is [2:07:39] is we had all of these items on the table [2:07:41] the table and we decided as a leadership [2:07:41] leadership team we ranked what we thought [2:07:45] we thought was most important [2:07:46] and we [2:07:46] and we tallied up the results to [2:07:46] present to [2:07:46] present to council in that fashion [2:07:49] fashion to everything there was a collective [2:07:51] a collective effort based on all [2:07:52] of the senior leadership [2:07:52] of the senior leadership team decisions [2:07:55] decisions but I will let justin speak [2:07:56] speak to the importance of the [2:07:58] position in respective [2:08:00] position in respective of all of his items [2:08:04] his items. >> thank you [2:08:04] >> thank you. [2:08:04] just looking at the slides here, [2:08:08] if [2:08:08] if you are asking what the order [2:08:10] of preference is [2:08:10] of preference is, obviously the community [2:08:14] community programs coordinator, [2:08:15] that is [2:08:15] that is going to have a big impact [2:08:16] impact across the board if we [2:08:17] don't have that [2:08:17] don't have that. [2:08:17] additional training ours for me is [2:08:22] is a big one. We [2:08:23] we definitely are not training [2:08:24] our staff as often [2:08:25] our staff as often as we should and [2:08:26] and when I compare ourselves to [2:08:27] others services [2:08:28] others services in the province, [2:08:28] we are low on the [2:08:28] we are low on the side of training. [2:08:30] we are low on the side of training. [2:08:30] it's been a budgetary ask for quite [2:08:32] quite some time but has not been able to make it [2:08:33] able to make it to the table. [2:08:33] outside of that, any capacity, [2:08:38] any support we [2:08:38] any support we can get as a whole to [2:08:40] whole to continue on the development [2:08:40] development and the growth of this organization [2:08:41] this organization, would be appreciated [2:08:43] appreciated. [2:08:43] >> thank you for that. [2:08:48] I see several positions from ems [2:08:52] so it is under [2:08:56] so it is under 12.2 budget overview [2:08:58] overview in case some other members [2:09:01] members of council can't see it because [2:09:02] because you have to go back. [2:09:02] I am wondering what else we can [2:09:07] do. [2:09:08] do. [2:09:08] I know we don't like to raise the levee [2:09:12] the levee but the levy is a very reasonable [2:09:12] reasonable levy and when it comes to [2:09:16] comes to ems, we need to support ems [2:09:18] ems more than we need to support [2:09:20] the [2:09:20] the mega-hospital right now in my opinion [2:09:21] my opinion because the mega mega-hospital, [2:09:23] mega-hospital, we are doing really [2:09:24] really well, I believe in saving [2:09:25] money for that [2:09:25] money for that but ems, supporting [2:09:29] supporting ems is urgent. [2:09:31] the mega-hospital, we can't get [2:09:32] them [2:09:33] them to come to the table and answer [2:09:34] answer our questions. [2:09:34] what is the status of our letter [2:09:38] on [2:09:39] on our request to meet with the mega-hospital committee [2:09:42] mega-hospital committee because we need to really [2:09:42] we need to really know when are we going to [2:09:45] we going to see shovels in the ground [2:09:45] ground. [2:09:45] the other part or question I have [2:09:48] have is, do we talk to our mpps [2:09:52] and [2:09:53] and what is our plan of communication [2:09:54] communication with the city of windsor and [2:09:57] windsor and the mpps? [2:09:57] with the rise in call volumes [2:10:00] I don't [2:10:00] don't want anyone to be blindsided [2:10:01] blindsided on future requests for funding at [2:10:02] for funding at the provincial [2:10:03] level and [2:10:03] level and also the city of windsor has [2:10:06] windsor has made it clear that [2:10:06] they want [2:10:07] they want to come in at a 0% increase [2:10:09] increase and I don't know how that is going to [2:10:10] that is going to impact us. [2:10:10] I know that we just send them [2:10:14] a bill but we really [2:10:14] bill but we really need to have [2:10:15] all [2:10:16] all of these parties at the table [2:10:16] table when we are talking about ems because health care is [2:10:18] ems because health care is so important [2:10:18] important. [2:10:18] my question is, what is the plan [2:10:24] to [2:10:24] to talk to the local mpps about [2:10:25] the rising calls [2:10:25] the rising calls? [2:10:25] >> for you, warden, we meet regularly with [2:10:34] regularly with our mpps particularly [2:10:34] particularly around innovative [2:10:38] opportunities [2:10:38] opportunities relatively cost [2:10:39] neutral to improve response Times [2:10:39] neutral to improve response Times [2:10:39] times. [2:10:39] again in my budget presentation [2:10:42] , talking [2:10:45] talking about getting innovative [2:10:46] and [2:10:46] and not throwing resources that [2:10:47] something that is not working [2:10:47] something that is not working [2:10:47] the [2:10:47] the best so they are well informed [2:10:51] informed on what the rising call is, we [2:10:52] is, we have a delegation requesting [2:10:56] requesting and we are connected with [2:10:56] with them. [2:10:56] >> I would like to support more [2:11:03] training and I [2:11:04] training and I would like to support the community programs Coordinator [2:11:06] training and I would like to support the community programs Coordinator [2:11:06] coordinator at the very least and [2:11:09] and if there was something else [2:11:09] that was high-priority [2:11:09] that was high-priority in the [2:11:12] ems I [2:11:12] ems I would like our chief to bring it [2:11:13] bring it forward. [2:11:14] we have the bare-bones option in [2:11:16] front of us and [2:11:17] front of us and then we can look [2:11:18] at the coordinator, [2:11:18] at the coordinator, extra training and if there [2:11:20] training and if there is anything else that is urgent [2:11:20] anything else that is urgent or if [2:11:21] if something isn't passed tonight, if something has [2:11:25] tonight, if something has to come to [2:11:25] come to us they'd year to look at again [2:11:28] at again I totally support that [2:11:29] . [2:11:29] since I have been on county counsel I feel we have [2:11:32] counsel I feel we have truly made notable [2:11:36] made notable gains in the reduction [2:11:37] reduction of code red and black and I want [2:11:38] and I want to keep going in that [2:11:38] direction [2:11:40] direction, I do not want to let [2:11:41] our foot [2:11:42] our foot off the pedal. [2:11:42] if we went to the greater community and [2:11:43] community and said we're going to [2:11:44] to have a 1% levy increase just for ems [2:11:48] for ems alone and they knew that that [2:11:50] that was directly going to help [2:11:52] code red [2:11:53] code red and cold black and help [2:11:55] with [2:11:55] with staff retention for ems, [2:11:57] I  I think [2:11:57] I think the community would support [2:11:58] support that so I think we need to [2:11:59] to figure out how we can further support our ems [2:12:01] support our ems, our chief and [2:12:04] not [2:12:04] not just at the bare-bones level [2:12:04]  level. Thank you [2:12:04]  level. Thank you [2:12:04] thank you. [2:12:04] >> 3u, warden, if I can, we are coming [2:12:11] coming up to collective bargaining [2:12:12] bargaining in 2026 and we need to [2:12:14] to be mindful of that and I want [2:12:14] to put that out there [2:12:15] to put that out there. [2:12:15] thank you. >> anyone else [2:12:20] >> anyone else? [2:12:20] councillor rogers. >> thank you, madam [2:12:24] >> thank you, madam warden. [2:12:26] to echo a few things going. I have [2:12:29] I have seen this progression the last year [2:12:31] last year or two and I think this council [2:12:36] this council has made significant investments in [2:12:37] significant investments in ems [2:12:37] . [2:12:37] I look at this budget alone and we have [2:12:39] we have seven replacement vehicles [2:12:41] vehicles, two brand-new vehicles [2:12:46]  vehicles. [2:12:46]  vehicles. [2:12:46] increase in the staff experience [2:12:47]  experience, code red [2:12:48] experience, code red, code black go [2:12:49] go down, wait times go down, we [2:12:53] are making tremendous strides, [2:12:53] are making tremendous strides, [2:12:53] tremendous strides [2:12:54] tremendous strides and I can support [2:12:57] support the additional training [2:12:59] hours, [2:13:00] hours, happy to add that and happy [2:13:01] happy to support that, I think [2:13:03] beyond [2:13:03] beyond that, I want to be mindful [2:13:05] mindful of the budget that we [2:13:07] have [2:13:07] have and the restrictions that we [2:13:08] we have because again at the end [2:13:10] of the day, we have [2:13:10] of the day, we have made significant investments [2:13:10] significant investments in our ems and we [2:13:14] ems and we are making significant [2:13:14] significant strides but the end [2:13:17] of the day [2:13:17] of the day, a budget that was [2:13:18] proposed [2:13:18] proposed for us to be able to hit [2:13:19] hit our strategic priorities and [2:13:22] be able [2:13:23] be able to continue to hit our service [2:13:23] service levels and continue to move [2:13:26] move forward with our momentum, [2:13:26] I don't [2:13:26] I don't think any budget would be [2:13:30] be put forward for us to take [2:13:31] steps [2:13:31] steps back and again I appreciate [2:13:33] appreciate your comment over the collective [2:13:34] collective bargaining because [2:13:34] again [2:13:34] again it's not so much about this [2:13:36] this year but about the stuff [2:13:36] in the [2:13:36] the future so I encourage this [2:13:39] council [2:13:40] council, we have to be mindful, [2:13:40] it's not an open [2:13:40] it's not an open pit. We can't [2:13:43] we can't continue to fund what [2:13:44] we would love [2:13:44] we would love to, I would love to be [2:13:45] to be able to pick at the local [2:13:47] level, [2:13:48] level, one artist things is saying [2:13:49] saying no to the fire department but [2:13:50] but there are times where you have [2:13:52] have to trust in your team and [2:13:53] the leadership. [2:13:54] the leadership. [2:13:54] what do you need for this year for us to [2:13:55] for us to carry the momentum and [2:13:57] I'm [2:13:58] I'm happy to support the additional [2:13:59] additional training hours but [2:14:00] my vote [2:14:00] vote will stop at that point. Thank you [2:14:01] thank you. [2:14:01] >> thank you. [2:14:04] anyone else? [2:14:04] >> two questions for the chief [2:14:09] , the [2:14:12] the average age of our fleet is [2:14:12] now what [2:14:12] now what? [2:14:12] >> we are on a 60 replacement cycles [2:14:17] cycles so it moves along every year [2:14:20] year. We [2:14:20] we don't keep them longer than six years [2:14:24] six years. [2:14:24] we bought some six years ago and are buying [2:14:25] are buying some this year so it's a blend [2:14:26] it's a blend. [2:14:26] >> and of course we anticipate [2:14:32] just looking [2:14:32] just looking at inflation and industrial costs [2:14:38] industrial costs, the prices that [2:14:39] that we did pay before. [2:14:40] when you brought them forth earlier [2:14:42] earlier, will most likely be increased as [2:14:43] increased as well. Is that something [2:14:45] is that something you are anticipating [2:14:45] anticipating? [2:14:45] >> yes. Everything is seeing inflation [2:14:49] everything is seeing inflation [2:14:49] - inflation-related [2:14:49] inflation-related changes. [2:14:50] >> with the discussions we've had [2:14:55] had about dispatching. Do you see that [2:14:56] do you see that moving forward? [2:14:58] and do you see any substantive changes [2:15:00] changes that can be saved to your budget [2:15:02] your budget if the dispatching proposals [2:15:03] proposals that we've disgust and [2:15:06] some of the [2:15:06] some of the ideas you put forth in [2:15:06] in this chamber forward? [2:15:09] >> we are seeing some movement [2:15:13] on the provincial [2:15:13] on the provincial lens for dispatch. Again we [2:15:13] on the provincial lens for dispatch. Again we [2:15:13] again we are getting into pds talking [2:15:17] talking to the counterparts across the province it [2:15:19] across the province it makes a big difference in [2:15:20] big difference in terms of ambience availability [2:15:20] ambience availability, we are not over [2:15:22] not over prioritizing as much in [2:15:22] getting [2:15:23] getting more of an even cadence [2:15:25] of dispatching [2:15:26] of dispatching. I [2:15:26] I do see that helping, I am hearing [2:15:31] hearing signals that alternate [2:15:32] models [2:15:32] models of care within the medication centre [2:15:33] medication centre are being looked [2:15:33] looked at and in terms of those [2:15:36] operating and [2:15:37] operating and providing oversight [2:15:41] oversight to the communication [2:15:41] centre [2:15:42] centre, we continue to talk about [2:15:42] about that. [2:15:43] I am not 100% convinced that that [2:15:46] that will be anything palpable but [2:15:47] but I do see the ministry is listening and [2:15:50] listening and we are starting [2:15:51] to see [2:15:52] see some changes so if we can [2:15:53] get [2:15:53] get smarter and how we dispatch, we definitely can [2:15:54] we definitely can send a tahoe [2:15:57] instead [2:15:57] instead of an ambulance with two paramedics [2:15:58] paramedics. [2:15:58] alternate model care opportunities [2:16:01] opportunities in all of the stuff the [2:16:02] stuff the team behind me is looking at. [2:16:03] stuff the team behind me is looking at. [2:16:03] the master plan gave a high level [2:16:06] level of ceiling on what was needed [2:16:08] needed. [2:16:08] I don't think we need all of that [2:16:09] that. I'll be honest. [2:16:09] that. I'll be honest. [2:16:09] I appreciate the comments about the [2:16:13] the bigger picture here. [2:16:17] we will continue pushing ahead [2:16:18] as a service [2:16:18] as a service and doing everything [2:16:19] everything we can and being as responsible [2:16:19] responsible as we can. It does [2:16:21] it does not mean that we needed [2:16:24] all. [2:16:24] all. [2:16:24] I would rather have a little bit [2:16:26]  bit, put it [2:16:26] bit, put it in and see how it goes and adjust again [2:16:27] goes and adjust again. [2:16:27] no significantly big changes. The [2:16:32] the issue we do have is I am losing space to [2:16:33] losing space to put these vehicles [2:16:35] vehicles. [2:16:35] two more are coming in and they [2:16:37] are supposed to [2:16:37] are supposed to go and I do not have the room to put [2:16:40] have the room to put those in there [2:16:40] there so we have to figure all [2:16:44] of that out [2:16:44] of that out and where these trucks [2:16:45] trucks will go, that is part of the bigger picture [2:16:46] the bigger picture. [2:16:46] >> thank you, madam warden. >> [2:16:50] >> thank you. [2:16:50] councillor prue. >> [2:16:54] >> a question, it seems like there's a sufficient appetite [2:16:57] there's a sufficient appetite [2:16:57] here to add a [2:16:57] here to add a couple of things in [2:16:59] in here that are going to be expensive [2:17:01] expensive. I did hear [2:17:01] I did hear one comment about the hospital and how [2:17:03] hospital and how much we are funding [2:17:07] funding which I think is excessive [2:17:08] excessive. [2:17:08] could it be possible that if any motions [2:17:11] motions are made that they be [2:17:11] contingent on [2:17:11] contingent on finding the dollars from [2:17:14] dollars from other sources whether it be the hospital [2:17:18] whether it be the hospital or something else [2:17:19] something else? [2:17:19] I am reluctant to vote simply for [2:17:21] for it and to raise the levy. [2:17:24] I want to put that up front. If you can [2:17:28] if you can find some money somewhere [2:17:28] somewhere else in the hospital [2:17:32] seems like a logical [2:17:32] seems like a logical one to many many, a couple hundred [2:17:34] many, a couple hundred, 300, off [2:17:36] of that [2:17:37] of that to fund the ems, I would certainly support [2:17:44] certainly support it. [2:17:44] if you can't, I have to say that I [2:17:47] I would be reluctant to raise the rate [2:17:49] the rate above 2.65. [2:17:53] >> duly noted. [2:17:54] did you want to speak to that suggestion [2:18:01] suggestion? [2:18:01] >> if I could, please. I [2:18:03] I agree with councillor prue. [2:18:07] if my colleagues would be willing to [2:18:09] willing to approve each of these items as [2:18:10] items as we go through it and [2:18:11] save [2:18:11] save -- or receive and approve [2:18:14] at the end so we [2:18:14] at the end so we can go through. [2:18:16] there are 26 items on this list [2:18:19] and I think [2:18:19] and I think it would be very unfair [2:18:21] unfair to other departments if we [2:18:22] we started approving these items [2:18:24] now without [2:18:24] now without going and hearing [2:18:26] the [2:18:26] the full presentation from everyone. [2:18:27] the full presentation from everyone. [2:18:27] I think we can ask the questions now and [2:18:28] now and if we can make a list [2:18:30] of the items that [2:18:30] the items that we want to discuss [2:18:32] discuss at the end that maybe we could [2:18:33] could find ways to adjust it, [2:18:37] whether it's coming from another Thing [2:18:37] whether it's coming from another Thing [2:18:37] thing like the hospital but some of these items [2:18:41] of these items are one time funded [2:18:42] funded capital items in some of these [2:18:43] these items are operating continuation [2:18:45] continuation and I would love [2:18:46] if we [2:18:47] we could have a discussion at the end [2:18:48] the end that would see us discuss those [2:18:50] discuss those 26 items instead [2:18:51] of trying to [2:18:51] of trying to piecemeal it together [2:18:52] together through the budget session if my fellow councillors [2:18:55] session if my fellow councillors [2:18:55] would agree to [2:18:55] would agree to that. [2:18:56] >> I just checked with the clerk [2:19:15]  clerk, [2:19:15] clerk, that can be a resolution [2:19:17] that is made and [2:19:17] that is made and council will vote on [2:19:17] vote on that so let me go to councillor verbeke [2:19:24] councillor verbeke and then we [2:19:25] will open the [2:19:25] will open the floor. [2:19:26] I was looking because of the comments [2:19:28] comments made, I was looking at bringing [2:19:30] bringing up individual ones that were [2:19:32] were mentioned such as the additional [2:19:32] additional training hours as separate [2:19:33] separate. [2:19:33] as separate motions as well as the coordinator as [2:19:39] the coordinator as a separate [2:19:41] motion [2:19:41] motion and then the motion to [2:19:43] receive [2:19:43] receive but if you want to add, [2:19:45] we will come [2:19:45] we will come to you but it has to be [2:19:48] to be a decision of council. [2:19:49] if they want to receive and approve [2:19:55] approve or just receive at this point in time [2:19:55] point in time. [2:19:55] are you good with that? [2:19:57] okay, thank you. [2:19:59] councillor verbeke. >> thank you. [2:20:03] councillor verbeke. >> thank you. [2:20:03] great report. [2:20:03] I will go to melissa now. The business [2:20:06] the business case, is that all [2:20:10] included in [2:20:10] included in this 2.65 of the budget [2:20:15] budget? [2:20:15] >> no. These are items [2:20:16] these are items that administratively [2:20:16] administratively we put on that [2:20:19] list [2:20:19] list and did not include them in the [2:20:20] the proposed budget but allowing council to bring [2:20:23] council to bring it back in. [2:20:23] >> I see this as more of a needs [2:20:26] list [2:20:28] list than a want list so I think we should [2:20:31] we should get them all if you've [2:20:33] had [2:20:34] had any dealings with ems, if the [2:20:38] the mechanic is gone, we can't fix [2:20:38] fix it and I believe that all of these [2:20:41] these positions should be filled filled. [2:20:42] these positions should be filled filled. [2:20:42] I don't care where you get the [2:20:42] money [2:20:42] money from but it has to be filled [2:20:46] filled. [2:20:46] >> councillor gibb. >> [2:20:53] >> one more clarifying question [2:20:53] , when we look [2:20:53] when we look at these numbers, [2:20:55] the [2:20:57] the estimated cost for the community program [2:20:58] community program coordinate her at [2:20:58] at 121467 and the additional training hours, [2:21:04] training hours, 19935, are those [2:21:06] numbers [2:21:07] numbers half of the cost or is that [2:21:11] that the full cost but the levy [2:21:12] will be [2:21:14] will be charged back if I can use [2:21:15] use that term, by the city? [2:21:17] >> yes, the list does include the [2:21:21] the total cost of that asked, [2:21:26] however, in [2:21:26] however, in ems we always they [2:21:27] know [2:21:27] know their funding formula is a little difference [2:21:29] little difference over the first year it would be [2:21:30] year it would be 50% of that cost [2:21:30] cost, for the coordinate her position it [2:21:34] position it will be about 65,504 the [2:21:36] the training dollars it would about [2:21:37] about $100,000, levy dollars. [2:21:38] >> further to that, doesn't the provincial [2:21:45] provincial funding then come in [2:21:45] afterwards [2:21:45] afterwards. [2:21:45] >> through you, warden, it would come in [2:21:50] come in but not until 2027 so how [2:21:52] how we budget is to incorporate that [2:21:53] that in the first year so that we [2:21:54] we cover ourselves. [2:21:54] >> just a question, in terms of the [2:22:05] the positions, I know you gave a lot of thought [2:22:08] lot of thought to coordinating and explaining [2:22:08] and explaining the key responsibilities [2:22:11] responsibilities but I'm wondering if there was any [2:22:12] wondering if there was any opportunity to [2:22:12] opportunity to look at sharing [2:22:14] , additional training [2:22:16] additional training hours, are you able to [2:22:19] you able to talk to chatham-kent and coordinate [2:22:22] and coordinate training and facilitate that that is [2:22:25] facilitate that that is mandatory [2:22:25] mandatory or whatnot or through st. Clair college [2:22:30] st. Clair college and partnering with them [2:22:30] with them and having an individual [2:22:31] individual and I don't know if that [2:22:34] that is even possible but they [2:22:35] are a great partner [2:22:36] are a great partner with ems in terms [2:22:37] terms of that education component [2:22:38] component but I too agree that [2:22:41] we should [2:22:42] we should look at these positions, obviously [2:22:43] positions, obviously they are [2:22:44] here for a reason and [2:22:44] here for a reason and the need is [2:22:44] is there. [2:22:45] but looking at the budget overview in [2:22:50] overview in terms of ranked positions, [2:22:52] positions, I kind of agree with [2:22:54] councilllor meloche in [2:22:57] councilllor meloche in terms of waiting until [2:22:58] waiting until the end and coming [2:22:59] back and seeing what [2:23:00] back and seeing what impact it has on the [2:23:00] has on the overall budget versus doing them now [2:23:02] doing them now one by one so I [2:23:04] do like [2:23:05] do like to keep an open mind on these positions but [2:23:06] these positions but just a question [2:23:07] question if there is any ability if we [2:23:10] if we only choose 2 and there [2:23:12] are [2:23:12] are five not chosen, are you able [2:23:14] able to somehow still be able [2:23:14] to offer [2:23:16] offer -- the purpose is relevant [2:23:18] and I don't want [2:23:20] and I don't want us to not see it [2:23:20] it happen that is there any way that [2:23:23] that through partnerships you [2:23:26] could probably [2:23:26] could probably arrange some of those [2:23:28] those responsibilities in a different [2:23:29] different format? [2:23:29] >> through you, warden, the training hours, to be [2:23:35] training hours, to be clear is [2:23:37] the wage [2:23:38] the wage is required to get to pay [2:23:39] pay the employee to take the training. [2:23:41] pay the employee to take the training. [2:23:41] the majority of our staff are front line paramedics [2:23:42] front line paramedics and they [2:23:44] are on the [2:23:45] are on the road and it's difficult [2:23:46] difficult to pull them off the [2:23:47] road [2:23:47] road to do training obviously [2:23:48] based on [2:23:48] based on their environment so they are doing [2:23:49] they are doing it on their days off [2:23:50] off so to coordinate with systems [2:23:55] systems partners, chatham-kent [2:23:56] , st. Clair, we have [2:23:57] st. Clair, we have great relationships [2:23:57] relationships with all of them and sometimes [2:23:58] and sometimes we can save on the cost [2:23:58] cost of getting someone to deliver content [2:24:02] deliver content but having someone sit [2:24:03] someone sit through that content is where the [2:24:03] is where the expense comes in. [2:24:04] [2:24:04] the rest of the positions, it [2:24:11] would be [2:24:11] would be difficult for the commander [2:24:12] commander of operations, communications [2:24:13] communications officer, all it is [2:24:13] is doing is continuing to stress the system that [2:24:16] the system that is already there [2:24:18] and not able to [2:24:20] and not able to help support the [2:24:20] capacity [2:24:20] capacity of those positions. >> thank you [2:24:22] >> thank you. [2:24:22] >> anyone else? [2:24:26] okay. [2:24:26] we are going to figure out how to do this individually [2:24:32] to do this individually since there seems to be [2:24:32] there seems to be -- councillor deyong, [2:24:35] deyong, comment? [2:24:36] >> I will throw my two cents in, I [2:24:38] I would like to make a motion that we [2:24:39] that we receive and then discuss all [2:24:40] all of these things at the end [2:24:42] when we've had [2:24:42] when we've had a chance to digest the rest [2:24:42] digest the rest of the budget. [2:24:44] >> comment [2:24:46] >> comment first then? [2:24:47] a comment or no? [2:24:48] >> that is my comment. That [2:24:54] that I'm supportive of us receiving this [2:24:57] receiving this for now. >> you [2:24:58] >> you are making the motion to receive? >> [2:24:58] >> you are making the motion to receive? >> [2:24:58] >> sure. [2:24:58] >> okay. [2:25:00] councillor deyong is making the [2:25:05] motion [2:25:05] motion that the presentation for the [2:25:08] the proposed 2026 essex-windsor emergency service [2:25:09] emergency service budget be received [2:25:10] received and further that the [2:25:14] 2026 budget [2:25:14] 2026 budget estimates for essex-windsor [2:25:15] essex-windsor emergency medical services be [2:25:15] services be received. [2:25:15] that is moved by councillor deyong. Looking [2:25:20] that is moved by councillor deyong. Looking [2:25:20] looking for a seconder. [2:25:20] councilllor meloche. [2:25:22] we will wait for that to get on the [2:25:30] the board and then we will be voting [2:25:32] voting electronically, please. [2:25:33] councillor gibb. [2:25:37] sorry, I did not open the floor [2:25:40] to [2:25:40] to questions. >> that [2:25:41] >> that is all right. [2:25:41] I will push my way onto the floor [2:25:42] floor. [2:25:42] just so that I can understand [2:25:47] this [2:25:47] this correctly, we will receive and [2:25:48] and then when we get to the end [2:25:50] of the day [2:25:50] of the day, at 9:30 tonight or hopefully earlier [2:25:54] hopefully earlier. [2:25:54] come on. A [2:25:57] a little levity. [2:25:57] then we will discuss the individual items, [2:26:01] individual items, correct? [2:26:01] >> that is how I am understanding it [2:26:08] understanding it so that is what I [2:26:09] I believe an imc knots from the mover and the [2:26:10] mover and the seconder. [2:26:10] I had someone else's hand up. >> [2:26:15] >> I will get there. [2:26:16] I thought there was still someone [2:26:17] someone here who I had seen first. [2:26:19] someone here who I had seen first. [2:26:19] councillor bailey, you are up. [2:26:22] >> [2:26:22] >> thank you, warden, I think [2:26:24] that you had [2:26:24] that you had it right in the first place because [2:26:26] first place because we have the opportunity [2:26:26] opportunity right now to receive [2:26:28] and [2:26:29] and approve what is before us [2:26:31] in the budget [2:26:31] the budget that has been requested [2:26:32] requested and there is nothing stopping us later for [2:26:33] stopping us later for making a [2:26:33] motion and adding [2:26:35] motion and adding in I would like to make [2:26:37] like to make a motion to add in [2:26:38] item [2:26:39] item number blah, blah, blah for [2:26:40] position [2:26:41] position whatever and for us to [2:26:43] prove that [2:26:43] prove that so I think to continue [2:26:45] continue with the momentum of our budget [2:26:46] our budget I would prefer to do it the [2:26:47] it the way that you stated in [2:26:50] that we have [2:26:50] that we have already moved through, [2:26:51] through, we have approved our sections, [2:26:52] sections, we will come back to [2:26:53] the wish list [2:26:54] the wish list at the end but recognizing [2:26:57] recognizing that there are 26 positions on [2:26:59] positions on there, they represent [2:26:59] represent 4% on the budget, certainly anybody [2:27:03] certainly anybody could move those [2:27:03] those items forward should they [2:27:04] want [2:27:04] want to but in the meantime we [2:27:06] have a [2:27:07] have a budget presented and vetted [2:27:08] vetted by administration that I [2:27:09] would really [2:27:09] would really like to see get received, [2:27:10] received, approved and we can [2:27:11] come [2:27:11] come back and make new motions for other [2:27:12] for other wish list items as the day [2:27:14] day unfolds. [2:27:15] >> councillor deyong. >> thank you [2:27:21] >> thank you. Looking [2:27:21] looking for clarity. [2:27:22] I have no problems with what councillor bailey [2:27:23] councillor bailey just said but [2:27:26] if [2:27:27] if we are approving the ems budget [2:27:28] budget then we don't need a motion to reconsider [2:27:29] motion to reconsider to open up [2:27:31] the [2:27:31] the ems budget to add something [2:27:32] to the [2:27:33] to the ems budget. I'm [2:27:33] I'm looking for clarity from administration, thank you [2:27:34] administration, thank you. [2:27:34] >> madam clerk, I am looking to you. >> that [2:27:43] >> madam clerk, I am looking to you. >> that [2:27:43] >> that is correct. He would [2:27:43] he would not need a motion to [2:27:46] add [2:27:46] add a supplementary item to the [2:27:47] already approved [2:27:47] already approved budget for a [2:27:51] particular department so if Council [2:27:51] particular department so if Council [2:27:51] council wishes to approve the [2:27:55] budget for ems as [2:27:55] budget for ems as it's written [2:27:55] right [2:27:56] right now at this interval and [2:27:59] then revisit additional [2:28:00] then revisit additional supplementary [2:28:00] supplementary items for this department and/or [2:28:03] department and/or other departments [2:28:03] departments before the final budget approval is done [2:28:04] budget approval is done later [2:28:06] today [2:28:06] today, that is also fine. [2:28:06] >> a councillor deyong. >> [2:28:11] >> I have no problem with that [2:28:12] . [2:28:12] I am fine to improve this and discuss [2:28:13] discuss this. >> you are changing [2:28:16] >> you are changing your motion to [2:28:16] to receive and approve? [2:28:20] I am looking to the secondary. [2:28:25] okay, that changes the motion to be received and [2:28:26] be received and approved. [2:28:26] and we are looking to vote electronically [2:28:38] electronically. [2:28:38] and that is carried, thank you [2:28:57] . Thank you, chief [2:28:59] thank you, chief. [2:28:59] next up, we have budget for infrastructure and [2:29:05] infrastructure and planning. [2:29:05] pause for one moment. We are debating [2:29:15] we are debating lunch. [2:29:15] >> what a lovely debate. [2:29:18] lunch lost so we are going to [2:29:37] go on to infrastructure [2:29:37] on to infrastructure and planning [2:29:37] planning services and for that [2:29:39] we have [2:29:39] we have our director of infrastructure and [2:29:39] infrastructure and planning services [2:29:41] services as well as rebecca, our manager [2:29:45] manager planning services to present [2:29:46] present the 2026 budget. [2:29:46] over to you. [2:29:48] for their department. [2:29:48] >> thank you, warden and council [2:30:06]  council. [2:30:06]  council. [2:30:06] too many laptops appear at the moment [2:30:09] moment. [2:30:09] thank you. [2:30:20] the infrastructure and planning services department [2:30:21] services department plays a vital [2:30:21] vital role in shaping and supporting [2:30:26] supporting our communities as committed [2:30:26] committed to maintaining and enhancing the county [2:30:29] enhancing the county infrastructure [2:30:29] infrastructure and the built environment [2:30:30] environment. [2:30:30] we do this by building reliable infrastructure [2:30:36] infrastructure, developing and applying responsible [2:30:36] applying responsible planning [2:30:38] policy [2:30:38] policy and effective asset management [2:30:39] management. [2:30:39] my team knows and understands [2:30:46] the goals and directions [2:30:46] the goals and directions of the [2:30:46] county [2:30:47] county. They understand [2:30:49] they understand the contributions they make [2:30:49] contributions they make as individuals [2:30:49] individuals and they know and understand [2:30:51] understand how their efforts contribute to the [2:30:54] contribute to the overall success of [2:30:54] success of our department, the  the county, [2:30:58] the county, our residence and [2:30:59] our businesses [2:30:59] our businesses and I am very proud of each [2:31:00] proud of each and every one of them [2:31:00] them. [2:31:00] it is not easy, my management [2:31:06] team faces challenges almost [2:31:06] team faces challenges almost every day. [2:31:07] team faces challenges almost every day. [2:31:07] rising service-level expectations, [2:31:09] expectations, development pressures [2:31:11] pressures, escalating construction costs, [2:31:13] construction costs, funding gaps [2:31:14]  gaps, complexities [2:31:17] gaps, complexities for the competition [2:31:18] competition of our road allowances [2:31:19] allowances, for things like safety [2:31:19] safety, access, active transportation [2:31:24] transportation, utilities and the ever [2:31:24] the ever moving targets of falling from [2:31:26] falling from new or modified provincial legislation [2:31:27] provincial legislation. [2:31:27] while we look forward to the future [2:31:31] future, these systems have to [2:31:33] work [2:31:33] work today and these hard assets [2:31:38] are deteriorating around us [2:31:38] are deteriorating around us every day. [2:31:40] are deteriorating around us every day. [2:31:40] but I have to say that we love it, we [2:31:42] it, we love what we do and we look [2:31:44] look forward to next year and [2:31:47] I am [2:31:47] am here to present the proposed ips budget for [2:31:49] ips budget for 2026. [2:31:51] while the total departmental budget [2:31:55] budget presented is just over [2:32:00] $138 million, the following Recoveries and [2:32:00] $138 million, the following Recoveries and [2:32:00] recoveries and contributions from [2:32:00] from our reserves, than that departmental asked for [2:32:03] departmental asked for 2026 is just over [2:32:05] just over $54 million, approximately [2:32:09] approximately $1.8 million over [2:32:10] 2025. [2:32:11] 2025. [2:32:11] 1.25 million of that is our recommendation to [2:32:16] recommendation to increment the [2:32:16] expansion [2:32:16] expansion program. [2:32:17] the base contribution this year [2:32:19] . [2:32:19] several other items remain off [2:32:25] this version of the [2:32:25] this version of the budget, and [2:32:28] melissa spoke [2:32:29] melissa spoke to these in appendix [2:32:30] appendix three of her treasurers [2:32:31] report [2:32:32] report nine happy to talk about [2:32:32] these [2:32:32] these further after my presentation [2:32:34] presentation. [2:32:34] things like traffic signals at the intersection [2:32:40] the intersection of county road [2:32:42] 20 and 23, [2:32:42] 20 and 23, road supervisor position, [2:32:46] position, traffic signals on  on county [2:32:46] on county road 20 and martin lane in [2:32:47] lane in la salle, generator study for [2:32:50] study for the administration building [2:32:51] building. [2:32:51] the amenity study, some additional sidewalk around [2:32:57] additional sidewalk around our building [2:32:58] building and a maintenance one position. [2:33:02] building and a maintenance one position. [2:33:02] this slide breaks down the net department [2:33:05] department of proposed budget [2:33:08] by my major service [2:33:08] my major service groups. Construction and engineering [2:33:10] construction and engineering, maintenance operations [2:33:12] maintenance operations, facility operations [2:33:15] operations, cleaning services and fleet and [2:33:18] and fleet and facilities. [2:33:18] the net construction and engineering [2:33:23] engineering budget has an increase of just over [2:33:25] increase of just over $1.4 million and again [2:33:26] $1.4 million and again, the majority [2:33:30] majority of that increment is the [2:33:31] the $1.25 million we are recommending [2:33:35] recommending toward the increase to [2:33:35] to the expansion program faced [2:33:36] budget [2:33:37] budget or base contribution. [2:33:38] are construction engineering group [2:33:44] group looks after much of our core [2:33:45] core assets and active transportation facilities [2:33:47] transportation facilities. [2:33:47] the state of good repair program and by the [2:33:52] and by the way thank you to council and the council Preapproval [2:33:53] and by the way thank you to council and the council Preapproval [2:33:53] preapproval to the big creek bridge project [2:33:58] bridge project, they are currently out [2:34:00] currently out for tender and we [2:34:01] are expecting an early start [2:34:02] are expecting an early start in the new year [2:34:02] the new year. [2:34:02] in this group, we have our program and [2:34:11] program and we are planning for the [2:34:14] the future, construction, traffic management [2:34:16] traffic management, and safety [2:34:17] of [2:34:17] of our road corridors. [2:34:17] and several projects are done [2:34:21] in this [2:34:22] this budget in cooperation with [2:34:23] our local [2:34:23] our local municipal partners, [2:34:24] things like working on [2:34:24] things like working on or connecting [2:34:24] connecting links, a shared ea's [2:34:29] and [2:34:30] and studies and leveraging our paving [2:34:30] paving contracts. [2:34:30] all of this being mindful of accessibility [2:34:33] accessibility. [2:34:33] of note, in 2026, we continue with our road [2:34:42] with our road rationalization [2:34:44] project [2:34:44] project designing construction [2:34:47] of the stormwater [2:34:48] of the stormwater management solution for county [2:34:48] solution for county road 19 and [2:34:50] the 22 intersection [2:34:51] the 22 intersection. [2:34:51] county road 42, 43, phase 4. [2:34:56] I already mentioned the culvert and the [2:34:59] and the big creek bridge and we have a [2:35:01] have a number of other bridging [2:35:04] projects [2:35:04] projects that are either in the design [2:35:05] design or construction phase. [2:35:07] we have our paved shoulder program [2:35:11] program and that will continue [2:35:13] on [2:35:13] on county road three, eight, nine and [2:35:14] nine and 31. [2:35:16] and on this side we have put together [2:35:20] together some figures to answer 2 frequently [2:35:24] 2 frequently answered questions [2:35:25] . What [2:35:25] what is the approximate cost to maintain [2:35:26] maintain a highway? [2:35:26] we are averaging just over $5700 per [2:35:31] per lane kilometre over ten years [2:35:33] years but this year in 2025, we [2:35:36] hit [2:35:37] hit just over $7500 per lane kilometre [2:35:38] kilometre. [2:35:38] and what's the approximate cost to rehabilitate [2:35:44] to rehabilitate or pave word do an [2:35:47] an operation on a highway? The average cost [2:35:49] the average cost over ten years [2:35:51] is about [2:35:52] is about $94,000 per lane kilometre [2:35:55] kilometre but in 2025 and this speaks [2:35:57] speaks to the ever escalating cost [2:35:57] cost of construction. [2:35:57] in 2025, we saw $170,000 per lane kilometre [2:36:03] lane kilometre. [2:36:03] our maintenance operation group [2:36:15] was presenting [2:36:16] was presenting a not budget for [2:36:17] 2026 of just over [2:36:17] 2026 of just over $10 million. Approximately [2:36:21] approximately 550 is covering things like [2:36:24] things like wage increases, increases [2:36:26] increases to our management budget [2:36:29] budget, some additional dollars for [2:36:32] for asset management particularly in [2:36:32] particularly in the drainage asset [2:36:34] asset department. [2:36:35] our maintenance operations group [2:36:41] also known as [2:36:41] also known as roads provides maintenance to our existing [2:36:44] maintenance to our existing road [2:36:44] network [2:36:46] network for summer maintenance, [2:36:47] winter [2:36:47] winter control and traffic signal maintenance [2:36:50] signal maintenance our facility operations [2:36:57] operations group, a budget request [2:37:00] request in 2026 for just over [2:37:03] $860,000. [2:37:03] $860,000. [2:37:03] facility's operation as a team that [2:37:09] that manages the county of essex administration building and [2:37:11] administration building and also provide [2:37:11] provide some services to other facilities [2:37:14] facilities as needed. [2:37:17] this department manages several [2:37:19] of [2:37:19] of our annual contracts for us in [2:37:21] in addition to keeping this building [2:37:22] building and our grounds in good condition [2:37:23] condition. [2:37:23] our planning services group has a [2:37:31] a budget and our planning team is [2:37:36] is led by our manager rebecca belanger and [2:37:40] belanger and she is here to speak to the [2:37:41] speak to the planning budget. [2:37:41] >> thank you, good morning, gordon [2:37:57] gordon. As [2:37:57] as council is aware, my position with the [2:38:00] with the support of 2 additional [2:38:01] planners [2:38:01] planners conducts the work, acting [2:38:02] acting as the delegated provincial [2:38:05] provincial planning authority for ensuring that [2:38:05] for ensuring that all matters [2:38:07] are addressed [2:38:07] are addressed and improving local plans and [2:38:10] local plans and amendments as well as [2:38:12] well as other planning applications such as [2:38:13] applications such as plans of tradition [2:38:16] tradition as an example. [2:38:17] we presently have over 150 active planning applications [2:38:20] active planning applications throughout the local [2:38:20] throughout the local municipality's [2:38:21] municipality's. [2:38:21] a large number of these applications [2:38:25] applications are in the pre preconsultation stage [2:38:25] preconsultation stage of review [2:38:27] and [2:38:29] and county planning has than not taken the [2:38:30] taken the associated fee. [2:38:30] this will look as if it's a reduced revenue [2:38:37] reduced revenue of planning applications [2:38:38] applications, this is not however reflective [2:38:40] however reflective of the actual work in [2:38:40] work in the department. [2:38:40] now that the county official plan [2:38:44] plan has received final approval [2:38:46] by the [2:38:47] by the province, planning administration [2:38:48] administration will be advancing [2:38:50] several [2:38:50] several strategic planning studies in [2:38:50] studies in 2026. [2:38:52] the first of these and the purchased services section Includes [2:38:55] the first of these and the purchased services section Includes [2:38:55] includes a specialty study, the intent [2:38:58] intent of this work is to formally [2:39:03] formally identify and map these high-priority [2:39:05] high-priority agriculture areas [2:39:06] to [2:39:07] to ensure they are properly considered [2:39:08] considered win planning applications [2:39:09] applications come forward as well [2:39:09] well as new official plans. [2:39:09] they county strategic plan directs the advancement [2:39:14] directs the advancement of a regional [2:39:16] regional climate land strategy. [2:39:17] the rfp is currently out on bids and tenders [2:39:21] and tenders and the expectation [2:39:21] that [2:39:23] that the consultant will be selected in december [2:39:24] selected in december. [2:39:24] this project is planned to run [2:39:28] through and conclude in june of [2:39:28] through and conclude in june of [2:39:28] next [2:39:28] next year with regular reporting to [2:39:31] to county counsel. [2:39:31] the planning budget also includes a [2:39:35] includes a carryover amount for the regional energy plan [2:39:39] the regional energy plan implementation project [2:39:39] implementation project. [2:39:39] this budgeted amount is intended [2:39:43] to [2:39:44] to be used for this year to conduct a [2:39:46] conduct a climate adaptation plan [2:39:47] plan and in partnership with local municipalities [2:39:49] local municipalities that are interested [2:39:49] interested. [2:39:49] the adaptation plan will create [2:39:55] an [2:39:55] an updated greenhouse gas emission [2:39:58] emission inventory for the county [2:39:58] county as well as local municipalities [2:39:58] municipalities enabling us to [2:40:03] begin monitoring our actions That [2:40:03] begin monitoring our actions That [2:40:03] that impact and reduce emissions as well [2:40:07] as well as other components of the action [2:40:07] the action plan that will include [2:40:11] include an assessment of climate related vulnerabilities [2:40:14] related vulnerabilities, resilient strategies [2:40:15] resilient strategies and an updated clean [2:40:15] updated clean energy target. [2:40:19] purchased services also include the [2:40:20] the annual contribution to the resilience [2:40:22] resilience project, in the amount [2:40:26] amount of $50,000. This contribution [2:40:28] this contribution from the county and other [2:40:29] county and other project partners [2:40:30] partners enable the project to receive [2:40:33] receive grant funding in the amount [2:40:35] amount of $1 million. [2:40:37] this project is in its second year [2:40:38] year of the three-year work program [2:40:38] program. [2:40:38] regarding the natural heritage [2:40:42] system [2:40:42] system strategy listed on this [2:40:46] side, although this initiative Was [2:40:47] side, although this initiative Was [2:40:47] was originally planned to advance in [2:40:50] advance in 2026, through the review [2:40:53] review and prioritization of other [2:40:55] other required strategic planning studies [2:40:56] planning studies, we are looking forward to advancing [2:40:57] forward to advancing this initiative [2:40:57] initiative instead in 2027 there for [2:41:02] for you will know that there is [2:41:04] no budget allocated for this [2:41:04] no budget allocated for this initiative [2:41:04] initiative. [2:41:04] this concludes my comments, thank you [2:41:07] thank you. [2:41:07] >> thank you, rebecca. [2:41:10] moving on to our fleet and facilities budget [2:41:15] facilities budget, this is where we track [2:41:17] we track capital needs for nonlinear [2:41:21] nonlinear assets, things such [2:41:22] as equipment for our roads group [2:41:23] equipment for our roads group, [2:41:23] trucks [2:41:23] trucks, ploughs, loaders, equipment [2:41:27] equipment and building needs for [2:41:27] our facilities [2:41:27] our facilities group and any major renovation [2:41:30] major renovation projects. [2:41:31] in 2026, we presented a budget [2:41:39] to effectively [2:41:40] to effectively replace aging equipment [2:41:40] equipment, support the county's desired [2:41:41] desired level of service, renew our facilities [2:41:43] our facilities, for example, there [2:41:47] there is a report on the consent [2:41:47] agenda [2:41:49] agenda that we have included $2.000000 towards the [2:41:52] $2.000000 towards the renovation [2:41:52] for council's consideration [2:41:54] for council's consideration. [2:41:54] and lastly, to enhance we have [2:41:59] items [2:42:01] items in this budget to provide enhancements [2:42:03] enhancements to security at our roads depots [2:42:03] roads depots. [2:42:03] and this is just a slide that [2:42:11] shows [2:42:11] shows some of the work that we [2:42:12] do, [2:42:13] do, it gets messy sometimes but it also shows [2:42:14] it also shows some of our successes [2:42:16] successes and some of our responses to some of council [2:42:18] responses to some of council's [2:42:18] requests [2:42:19] requests and with that, I will conclude [2:42:21] conclude and I am available to [2:42:24] answer [2:42:24] answer any questions. >> thank you [2:42:29] >> thank you. I was expecting a [2:42:29] I was expecting a lot longer. [2:42:29] opening the floor to comments and [2:42:33] and questions from council, starting [2:42:33] starting with you councillor bailey. >> [2:42:36] starting with you councillor bailey. >> [2:42:36] >> thank you. Through [2:42:37] through you, to start up I wanted [2:42:41] wanted to our own horn here, we [2:42:43] have done amazing [2:42:44] have done amazing, amazing work [2:42:44] when it comes to the [2:42:45] when it comes to the paved shoulder [2:42:45] shoulder program and cwats and everything [2:42:49] everything we've been doing through this [2:42:51] through this department and I know that [2:42:51] know that many of those trails [2:42:53] , I ride [2:42:56] I ride and I noticed numbers of council [2:42:58] council have viewed them and I  I think [2:42:59] I think sherry took a ride with [2:43:00] some of the groups earlier on [2:43:01] some of the groups earlier on [2:43:01] in the year [2:43:01] the year too and we are so close close, [2:43:05] close, we are 1.8 kilometres away from [2:43:08] away from bridging the gap for [2:43:09] 161 kilometres [2:43:09] 161 kilometres of the seaway, [2:43:14] 100 which is pretty incredible [2:43:14] 100 which is pretty incredible [2:43:14] that we have done [2:43:14] that we have done that as a region [2:43:16] region so talk about the regional powerhouse for [2:43:18] regional powerhouse for all of us to [2:43:18] us to have this system that is [2:43:21] moving [2:43:21] moving through all of our communities [2:43:21] communities so beautifully. [2:43:23] the 1.8% that is not done is in [2:43:27] lakeshore [2:43:29] lakeshore and I know that it's a little [2:43:31] little late here and there are probably resources and they [2:43:33] probably resources and they understand [2:43:33] understand that some of the things have [2:43:34] things have been funded and somewhere funded [2:43:37] somewhere funded and some are [2:43:38] not funded [2:43:38] not funded so I don't want this [2:43:40] to [2:43:40] to happen today but I do want to [2:43:41] preface [2:43:42] preface that a notice of motion [2:43:43] will come [2:43:44] will come forward at some point to try [2:43:44] to try to identify the 1.8%. A [2:43:49] a couple of things in addition to [2:43:51] to that to note, we have an awesome opportunity [2:43:52] awesome opportunity to build in resources for [2:43:55] resources for signage along the seaway [2:43:59] seaway so that folks know where [2:44:01] to go in [2:44:01] to go in our communities where it [2:44:02] it is comfortable to ride. [2:44:02] I would like to see a signage program come [2:44:06] program come forward as well as the [2:44:07] the removal of signs and areas [2:44:11] that don't [2:44:12] that don't make sense within our plant [2:44:13] plant so they don't have paved [2:44:15] shoulders [2:44:15] shoulders. [2:44:15] one of those examples is in my [2:44:16] community [2:44:16] community, 12-foot ditches on [2:44:20] both sides [2:44:20] both sides of the road, gravel road, [2:44:21] road, and to end and it's marked [2:44:24] as a cwats [2:44:25] as a cwats trail which tells a cyclist [2:44:26] cyclist it's a good spot to go and [2:44:28] and it's absolutely not a good spot [2:44:29] spot to go. [2:44:29] we will blow the tires on our bike unless [2:44:31] bike unless we have a fat bike [2:44:32] and we will land [2:44:32] and we will land in the ditch [2:44:34] so I [2:44:34] I know that I am late to the game [2:44:36] game for this budget both in lakeshore [2:44:37] lakeshore and here at the county but [2:44:39] but don't be surprised by a notice [2:44:40] notice of motion that will work to try to [2:44:41] to try to bridge the last 1.8 kilometre [2:44:45] kilometre stretch so that we as a [2:44:47] a region will have accomplished [2:44:48] 161 kilometres [2:44:49] 161 kilometres of roadway and [2:44:51] if you want to [2:44:52] you want to see it, I am happy [2:44:53] to [2:44:53] to get us a bus and anyone who [2:44:55] wants to come [2:44:55] wants to come along we can ride [2:44:56] it and [2:44:56] it and if you are not feeling like [2:44:57] like riding a bike this spring you also have all [2:44:59] you also have all winter to get [2:44:59] ready [2:45:00] ready and get fit and I will take [2:45:03] take the ride with you for the [2:45:04] full [2:45:04] full 160 for anyone who wants to go [2:45:07] go. [2:45:07] that is my two cents. [2:45:07] >> thank you. [2:45:09] councillor bondy. >> thank you, warden mcdonald [2:45:13] >> thank you, warden mcdonald. [2:45:13] [2:45:13] further to what councillor bailey is saying [2:45:17] bailey is saying, I am in full [2:45:20] agreement with [2:45:21] agreement with what she is looking [2:45:21] looking to do and I think it is long [2:45:22] long overdue. [2:45:25] this is something that is going [2:45:27] to [2:45:27] to be a cycling corridor from [2:45:29] one end of our county to [2:45:29] one end of our county to another [2:45:29] and [2:45:31] and with the new gordie howe bridge opening [2:45:34] bridge opening up allowing cyclist [2:45:35] cyclist, this is really big and it's an [2:45:36] it's an opportunity for all of us so I [2:45:38] us so I hope you do bring it forward because I [2:45:41] forward because I would like to support it [2:45:41] support it. [2:45:41] I am wondering if do we even have a [2:45:46] have a price for that little segment? That is my [2:45:47] have a price for that little segment? That is my [2:45:47] that is my first question and then I have [2:45:49] then I have several more questions [2:45:49] questions. [2:45:49] >> I do not have a price for you you. [2:45:57] >> I do not have a price for you you. [2:45:57] I can try to get one worked out for [2:45:57] for you, a little later in the day [2:46:01] day but at the moment I don't [2:46:01] have that [2:46:01] have that. [2:46:01] >> thank you. Maybe we can add [2:46:07] maybe we can add that to appendix [2:46:08] appendix four that we just created [2:46:11] created. [2:46:11] one of the other questions that I have [2:46:13] I have is can you elaborate a little bit more [2:46:14] little bit more on the drainage [2:46:16] works [2:46:17] works that we are talking about [2:46:19] in the [2:46:19] in the budget. [2:46:20] earlier miss ryan talked about [2:46:26] how [2:46:26] how we are doing training works [2:46:26] and [2:46:26] and if you can't elaborate on that [2:46:29] that tonight I will take it by email [2:46:32] email and in the future I just know that with [2:46:34] know that with the recent flooding [2:46:35] flooding in notches my minister polity but [2:46:37] polity but other municipalities [2:46:37] the people have a [2:46:40] the people have a higher expectation [2:46:40] expectation of us when it comes [2:46:42] to drainage. They want [2:46:43] to drainage. They want [2:46:43] they want regular maintenance [2:46:45] and I [2:46:45] and I just want to make sure there is enough budget [2:46:47] there is enough budget dollars [2:46:47] . [2:46:47] the other question that I also believe [2:46:52] believe we need a full review [2:46:53] of cwats [2:46:53] cwats and the signage. I could [2:46:55] I could not agree more. [2:46:56] I know there is a cwats committee but they [2:47:00] committee but they actually should talk [2:47:01] should talk to the easy wrote folks who ride and [2:47:05] folks who ride and cycle because [2:47:08] there is another [2:47:08] there is another section and I am [2:47:08] am sorry, I have to raise this [2:47:12] again. [2:47:13] again. [2:47:13] one can we look at this little [2:47:15] section, just like this [2:47:16] section, just like this section in [2:47:18] in councillor bailey's area, a [2:47:21] section in the cwats [2:47:21] section in the cwats plan that can [2:47:21] can next and another section that [2:47:25] that is not done, I know it is [2:47:28] a complicated [2:47:28] complicated section and has a hydro [2:47:29] hydro poll and it's not cheap [2:47:31] but [2:47:31] but we have this great waterfront trail [2:47:32] waterfront trail that we mark [2:47:34] as a cycling [2:47:34] a cycling corridor and it goes from [2:47:37] from one end to the other but [2:47:39] in a [2:47:39] a spot with no paved trail, the road is [2:47:43] road is narrow and the speed limit is [2:47:45] limit is 80 so I don't know why we have that [2:47:48] we have that marked as? [2:47:48] the great waterfront [2:47:49] waterfront trail when it's a raceway [2:47:53] raceway. [2:47:53] do we have a cost on that and when we can get [2:47:55] when we can get that one done, [2:47:56] please. >> [2:48:01] please. >> [2:48:01] >> thank you, through you, warden, to repeat [2:48:02] warden, to repeat back to you, [2:48:04] we [2:48:05] we are looking at getting some costs for [2:48:06] costs for that segment of -- I [2:48:10] forget the [2:48:10] forget the name of it. The essex county [2:48:12] the essex county way and I am [2:48:16] just looking up some costs [2:48:16] just looking up some costs to speak [2:48:16] speak to the additional stormwater maintenance [2:48:21] stormwater maintenance projects [2:48:22] that [2:48:23] that we would like to fund this year [2:48:23] year and comment on county road [2:48:28] 50 in [2:48:30] 50 in amherstburg. This [2:48:30] this year, we have added additional [2:48:33] additional dollars into the stormwater maintenance along [2:48:36] stormwater maintenance along our county [2:48:36] county road so that we can improve catch [2:48:41] improve catch basins, we can tackle [2:48:43] tackle some of the aging smaller [2:48:45] culverts [2:48:45] culverts and road crossings that we [2:48:46] we have. [2:48:46] we are anticipating continued impacts of climate [2:48:51] impacts of climate change. We [2:48:53] we have fallen behind in years past on [2:48:55] past on some of that maintenance [2:48:55] and [2:48:57] and we would like to see extra dollars [2:48:59] dollars in that item so we can get ahead [2:49:00] get ahead of that. [2:49:00] to really catch up and then start to get ahead [2:49:03] start to get ahead of it. [2:49:04] with respect to county road 50, [2:49:08] we [2:49:09] we do have dollars in this year [2:49:11]  year's budget to continue work [2:49:11] year's budget to continue work [2:49:11] on [2:49:11] on design for a segment of our cwats [2:49:16] cwats trail along county road [2:49:20] 50 50. It is really the [2:49:20] 50 50. It is really the [2:49:20] it is really the extreme west [2:49:21] end [2:49:21] end. [2:49:21] that segment is not one of the low hanging [2:49:26] low hanging fruits that we've tackled [2:49:27] tackled in the last ten years [2:49:29] or so. This [2:49:31] or so. This [2:49:31] this one will require a little [2:49:33] extra work. [2:49:33] extra work. [2:49:33] there is money in this year's [2:49:35] budget to [2:49:35] budget to look at what we would need to do for [2:49:37] need to do for utility relocation [2:49:37] relocation perhaps getting into some municipal drain [2:49:41] some municipal drain relocation [2:49:41] so that [2:49:43] so that we can prepare the way to [2:49:44] to then go ahead and pave that [2:49:44] shoulder [2:49:44] shoulder but the actual construction [2:49:48] construction of the shoulder is [2:49:49] not in this year's budget [2:49:49] not in this year's budget but [2:49:50] again [2:49:50] again there is some imaginary utility money [2:49:53] utility money there. [2:49:53] I think I have covered all of the items [2:49:58] the items there. >> [2:50:02] >> thank you. I [2:50:02] I support everything that you are presenting [2:50:03] are presenting. [2:50:03] I think you do a great job with [2:50:06] our roads. [2:50:07] our roads. [2:50:07] I am so happy in the town of essex, [2:50:09] essex, we partner with you for many [2:50:11] many roads because your quality is [2:50:12] is top-notch. I'm thrilled with [2:50:12] I'm thrilled with that. [2:50:12] your service on snowplowing and when [2:50:15] when it's raining and the roads [2:50:18] need to [2:50:18] need to be closed your cruise are really receptive [2:50:20] are really receptive so thank you [2:50:21] you. I [2:50:21] I look forward to supporting this and [2:50:22] this and then talking about all of the other [2:50:23] of the other things. [2:50:24] thank you. >> [2:50:26] >> thank you. [2:50:27] councillor gibb. >> [2:50:32] >> thank you. Thank you to councillor bondy [2:50:32] thank you to councillor bondy [2:50:32] for sew eloquently [2:50:32] for sew eloquently phrasing the issue of county [2:50:36] issue of county road 50. [2:50:37] I know I have been conversing [2:50:41] with you, allen, [2:50:41] with you, allen, for a long time [2:50:42]  time. [2:50:42]  time. [2:50:42] it is a long stretch where we invite people to [2:50:46] invite people to bike to our wineries, [2:50:49] wineries, to bike through amherstburg [2:50:53] amherstburg and go to essex and all the [2:50:56] all the way to leamington. [2:51:01] there is one specific spot that [2:51:03] if [2:51:03] if they don't know it's coming [2:51:05] , they [2:51:05] they are caught unaware that they have to [2:51:07] they have to merge into 80 kilometre per [2:51:07] kilometre per hour traffic. [2:51:07] I'm glad to hear that there is [2:51:11] money [2:51:13] money for the project. [2:51:14] I do realize that it is exceedingly [2:51:16] exceedingly difficult, that small [2:51:16] small section but that is amherstburg for [2:51:19] amherstburg for you. [2:51:21] >> there is a positive note. [2:51:24] [laughter] [2:51:24] councilllor meloche. >> thank you [2:51:28] >> thank you. [2:51:28] on the cwats program, I am looking [2:51:33] looking at the capital expenses as well [2:51:35] as well as reserves. [2:51:35] we have increased the program [2:51:37] this [2:51:37] this year, have we not already [2:51:37] significantly [2:51:37] significantly? [2:51:37] I am looking at page 101. [2:51:43] and I am trying to understand [2:51:55] is that increase [2:51:55] that increase is to continue on to these pieces that have [2:51:56] to these pieces that have been mentioned [2:51:56] mentioned or if this extra fund [2:51:59] is to [2:51:59] is to start addressing really [2:52:03] what [2:52:03] what will happen to these pieces [2:52:05] of infrastructure [2:52:05] of infrastructure as they come for [2:52:06] for repair. [2:52:06] I know we don't have a real policy [2:52:10] policy in place as far as replacing [2:52:11] replacing that asset so I'm wondering what [2:52:11] wondering what these funds are for [2:52:12] for? [2:52:12] >> three you, warden, I am on [2:52:21] page [2:52:21] page 101 and I believe if you're talking about the cwats [2:52:23] talking about the cwats program [2:52:23] , that [2:52:24] that is appendix three. [2:52:29] I would divert you to page 161 if [2:52:33] if you are looking at cwats specifically [2:52:35] specifically because that program itself is [2:52:35] program itself is not increased [2:52:35] . [2:52:35] page 101 is the entire construction and engineering [2:52:39] construction and engineering where cwats specifically is Appendix [2:52:43] construction and engineering where cwats specifically is Appendix [2:52:43] appendix d. [2:52:43] m a total levy requirement has [2:52:45] not increased in there [2:52:47] not increased in there. [2:52:47] , could you help me understand [2:52:54] on [2:52:54] on page 101 at what I am looking at [2:52:55] at. [2:52:55] it says the capital expense for cwats and then the [2:52:59] cwats and then the reserves for the [2:53:02] the cwats program. It went [2:53:05] it went to showing I believe 496,200. [2:53:10] it went to showing I believe 496,200. [2:53:10] is that an increase to the reserves [2:53:12] reserves? Without [2:53:12] without going to 161 because I [2:53:14] definitely [2:53:15] definitely -- [2:53:17] >> we are looking at that but it [2:53:20] could be carryover [2:53:20] could be carryover projects and [2:53:21] that might [2:53:21] that might be why there is the difference [2:53:22] difference. [2:53:22] we will confirm that with the numbers [2:53:23] numbers. [2:53:23] >> no problem. [2:53:28] I can get that after. [2:53:31] further, obviously 2 items on [2:53:32] the extra [2:53:32] the extra list that are significant [2:53:35] significant to me items ten and [2:53:37] 14 and [2:53:38] 14 and I am hoping members of council [2:53:39] council will support those as they've [2:53:39] they've been highlighted for 2  2 intersections [2:53:43] 2 intersections that are in need of improvements [2:53:43] of improvements and so my question [2:53:47] question would be to you, I know and [2:53:47] and here they say levy funded [2:53:51] but [2:53:51] but since they are one time, could they [2:53:54] could they not be tax stabilization [2:53:55] stabilization funded for those [2:53:56] 2 projects? [2:53:56] >> sorry, I missed the first part, appendix [2:54:02] part, appendix three? [2:54:04] >> when we speak with alan about the plan for these [2:54:10] the plan for these types of safety designs [2:54:13] safety designs and things like [2:54:14] that [2:54:15] that, but we have really discovered is [2:54:16] discovered is it's not one time items [2:54:20] items, it might be a one-time item this year but the [2:54:21] item this year but the program [2:54:21] itself, when I spoke [2:54:23] itself, when I spoke to ellinas [2:54:25] seems to be about ten years [2:54:26] seems to be about ten years worth [2:54:26] worth of projects that could really [2:54:28] really happen, they are really digging [2:54:31] digging into not so as of right [2:54:33] now, we do [2:54:33] now, we do not have a reserve [2:54:36] specifically [2:54:36] specifically for these types of projects [2:54:38] projects because it something [2:54:40] new we've undertaken [2:54:40] new we've undertaken. [2:54:40] that is why in that listing we [2:54:42] have [2:54:42] have put it as levy funded so that [2:54:45] that in the future, if there is [2:54:46] more [2:54:46] more of those which I think there is [2:54:48] there is in the horizon with the [2:54:49] plan [2:54:49] plan, we have levy dollars to do those [2:54:51] those same things and I wanted to [2:54:52] to know with that as well that [2:54:55] is [2:54:56] is just for traffic lights and [2:54:57] things like [2:54:58] things like that were as sometimes [2:54:59] sometimes when they go to the design [2:55:01] design phase it's actually a roundabout [2:55:01] roundabout they are suggesting [2:55:01] which is [2:55:04] which is 2 million to 5 million depending [2:55:05] depending on how big it is so really we [2:55:07] really we are trying to say let's use [2:55:09] let's use levy dollars to build up [2:55:10] up that program because we see it as [2:55:11] it as a long-term program. >> I understand [2:55:14] >> I understand and further that [2:55:18] we [2:55:18] we are going to crank this program [2:55:19] program, we have started talking about [2:55:20] about this program but we don't have the dollars [2:55:21] have the dollars funded for and are planning [2:55:23] are planning on it this year so those [2:55:24] those two items could however, be [2:55:27] be tax stabilization for this [2:55:29] year to [2:55:29] year to get them off the books [2:55:31] and as we [2:55:31] and as we develop this program [2:55:32] we will look [2:55:33] we will look at the next intersections [2:55:33] intersections on the list, is not a possibility [2:55:34] not a possibility? [2:55:34] >> yes. [2:55:38] using reserves is always a possibility [2:55:40] possibility but for long-term planning [2:55:40] planning it's better to use levy [2:55:42] dollars [2:55:43] dollars but it is a possibility [2:55:44] . >> thank you [2:55:44] >> thank you. [2:55:44] the final question was item number [2:55:45] number 18 on the appendix three which is [2:55:49] which is the county admin building [2:55:51] building generator study. [2:55:51] and I realize this is just a study [2:55:55] study so there is obviously still the cost [2:55:58] still the cost of the generator replacement [2:55:58] replacement but if I am reading this correctly [2:56:02] this correctly, it is saying that [2:56:03] that if we don't move forward with [2:56:05] with this, we may not have a reliable [2:56:07] reliable energy backup power for [2:56:08] our emergency centre [2:56:08] our emergency centre. [2:56:08] that is a concerning thing to [2:56:11] think about [2:56:12] think about that our emergency [2:56:14] centre may not have the [2:56:15] centre may not have the power [2:56:16] needed [2:56:16] needed so this study I'm assuming [2:56:20] assuming will identify where we would move [2:56:20] would move with that and still be [2:56:23] be years away before we would even [2:56:24] even get to replace his, am I correct [2:56:25] correct on that? [2:56:25] >> three you, warden, what I was [2:56:31] going to [2:56:31] going to say to the generator [2:56:33] study [2:56:33] study is that we would like to [2:56:34] determine our best [2:56:34] determine our best course of action [2:56:36] action regarding our administration buildings Emergency [2:56:38] action regarding our administration buildings Emergency [2:56:38] emergency backup. [2:56:38] but we have to be mindful of our commitment [2:56:41] commitment to the ieso, this generator feeds [2:56:45] generator feeds back into our grid [2:56:47] grid so we are being mindful of that [2:56:49] that. [2:56:49] we have experience with issues [2:56:55] with the existing [2:56:56] with the existing generator so planning [2:56:57] planning for the future, it is a [2:56:58] diesel [2:56:58] diesel generator. [2:56:59] it is much bigger than we actually [2:57:02] actually need for the building [2:57:04] so we want to consider [2:57:05] so we want to consider things like that [2:57:05] like that. [2:57:05] we want to consider that it's located [2:57:10] located now on the east side of the [2:57:14] the building and very close to [2:57:14] our [2:57:14] our air intake so we do experience [2:57:17] experience some complaints when they get fired [2:57:19] they get fired up and the diesel [2:57:21] exhaust gets in the [2:57:21] exhaust gets in the building so it [2:57:25] it is a combination of planning [2:57:25] for the [2:57:25] for the future, picking the right fuel [2:57:28] right fuel [2:57:28] right fuel [2:57:28] right fuel [2:57:28] source, putting it in the right location [2:57:31] the right location and making [2:57:31] the right location and making [2:57:31] the right location and making [2:57:31] sure we [2:57:33] sure we do have proper backup for [2:57:34] for our emergency operations centre [2:57:36] centre [2:57:36] centre [2:57:36] centre [2:57:36] , a combination of things but we [2:57:37] but we do need to plan and get [2:57:39] ahead [2:57:39] ahead of this, early estimates for a [2:57:44] for a generator like this are in [2:57:45] the million-dollar [2:57:45] the million-dollar range so we want to [2:57:48] want to get that information in [2:57:48] hand [2:57:49] hand so that we can start planning for [2:57:49] planning for the future. [2:57:50] >> thank you. [2:57:52] hopefully we are all writing down [2:57:56] down these numbers in appendix [2:57:56] three because there are several [2:57:57] three because there are several [2:57:57] things [2:57:57] things we've heard that are items [2:58:00] items needed now and not looking at [2:58:02] at another year from now before we start moving [2:58:03] we start moving forward with them [2:58:03] them. Thank you [2:58:04] thank you. [2:58:04] >> thank you. [2:58:07] councillor akpata. >> [2:58:14] >> we had a brief discussion about [2:58:16] about this looking at how this [2:58:17] department takes [2:58:17] department takes care of our cwats [2:58:18] cwats trails and things of that nature and [2:58:19] nature and I had the privilege [2:58:20] and I realize [2:58:21] and I realize we don't know what [2:58:22] will be [2:58:23] will be happening in the future because of the [2:58:24] because of the changes that are coming [2:58:26] coming. [2:58:26] each of our minutes of polities [2:58:28] here have contributed to the [2:58:29] here have contributed to the infrastructure [2:58:29] infrastructure, the assets or [2:58:31] whatever term [2:58:31] whatever term you want to use in [2:58:31] the trail [2:58:32] the trail network. [2:58:33] from your perspective, looking to the [2:58:37] to the future as alan just said, [2:58:40] if [2:58:40] if the ontario government continues with [2:58:41] continues with what they are doing [2:58:42] doing and we are eventually folded [2:58:45] folded into the lake erie regional conservation authority [2:58:47] regional conservation authority [2:58:47] , I am [2:58:50] I am looking to understand better [2:58:52] better what might be coming in the [2:58:54] the future for the municipalities [2:58:54] municipalities and contributing to [2:58:56] to the assets to keep hold of what we [2:58:59] what we have so that we can still [2:58:59] still control these jams that are in essex [2:59:03] are in essex county. [2:59:04] just a comment because I would like [2:59:05] like to think to what might happen [2:59:07] happen to this budget next year [2:59:07] , thank you [2:59:09] thank you. >> [2:59:10] >> three you -- through you, the devil [2:59:16] devil is in the details of this amalgamation [2:59:17] amalgamation move, I was contacted [2:59:21] contacted by the west ontario wardens [2:59:22] wardens caucus to weigh in from [2:59:24] the [2:59:24] the county's perspective on assets [2:59:26] assets owned by conservation authorities. [2:59:27] assets owned by conservation authorities. [2:59:27] there may be a lack of full awareness [2:59:30] awareness at the provincial level [2:59:31] level of the amount of assets [2:59:33] that varies conservation Authorities [2:59:33] that varies conservation Authorities [2:59:33] authorities own and in essex  essex county [2:59:37] essex county, the owner of three greenway [2:59:40] greenway systems tied directly into [2:59:43] into our complement of the cwats trail [2:59:45] trail that the county and it has [2:59:49] been a gem [2:59:49] been a gem of our region so we certainly have a [2:59:52] certainly have a concern around [2:59:53] the [2:59:54] the ownership of those assets [2:59:55] going forward under a [2:59:56] going forward under a new governance [2:59:56] governance model that may wrap us up into a [2:59:58] us up into a larger geography. [3:00:00] beyond [3:00:00] beyond the greenway assets, there [3:00:03] there is also heritage and cultural [3:00:06] cultural assets at the conservation authority [3:00:07] conservation authority owns and manages as an [3:00:08] manages as an example, john. [3:00:09] these are things that I have highlighted [3:00:14] highlighted to advocate on our behalf to ask some specific [3:00:15] behalf to ask some specific questions of the [3:00:16] questions of the province of what [3:00:18] what is their vision for these [3:00:18] [3:00:18] assets. [3:00:18] the concern that we have is that the [3:00:21] the province may bucket some of these assets into nonmandatory [3:00:25] these assets into nonmandatory [3:00:25] conservation [3:00:25] conservation authority jurisdiction [3:00:28] jurisdiction and that then will need to [3:00:32] need to be a conversation around the appetite for [3:00:33] the appetite for a municipality municipality's to [3:00:33] municipality's to either take [3:00:36] these [3:00:36] these assets on and continue to [3:00:36] manage and own [3:00:36] manage and own them or what their future life might look [3:00:39] their future life might look like [3:00:39] like. [3:00:39] as those conversations progress, [3:00:43] please know that the county is [3:00:44] please know that the county is [3:00:44] forwarding information [3:00:44] forwarding information in collaboration [3:00:45] collaboration. I have [3:00:47] I have been in contacti with [3:00:50] tim, the ceo, [3:00:51] the ceo, tohave been in contact [3:00:52] with tim explain burning [3:00:52] burning that request for information [3:00:53] for information, from the the ceo [3:00:53] to explain that county. [3:00:55] request for information [3:00:55] request for information from the county [3:00:55] countyand. More information to [3:00:58] [3:00:58] and more information come but [3:00:59] to we [3:00:59] we come do but we [3:01:00] wealso have a concern around the ownership question [3:01:00] the ownership question of those [3:01:00] also have concern around the ownership [3:01:01] ownership question of those assets [3:01:01] assets assets [3:01:02] assets. [3:01:02] .as we have more information, [3:01:04] we [3:01:04] as we have more information will make [3:01:05] will make we sure we have will make sure we have [3:01:06] will make sure we havean updated [3:01:06] updated updated reports [3:01:06] reports to council as report to county counsel as it [3:01:06] as it relates it to relates the [3:01:10] operation of infrastructure, planning [3:01:10] of infrastructure, planning services and [3:01:10] services and to the operation of Infrastructure [3:01:10] services and to the operation of Infrastructure [3:01:10] infrastructure planning services and [3:01:10] and perhaps perhaps that amalgamation [3:01:14] amalgamation or roll-up of those [3:01:14] assets [3:01:14] assets that amalgamation a. [3:01:15] rollup [3:01:16] rollup of assets in [3:01:17] rollup of assets in [3:01:17] rollup of assets in [3:01:17] the county operations [3:01:17] operations are by extension I [3:01:20] think there's conversation and Opportunity [3:01:20] think there's conversation and Opportunity [3:01:20] opportunity for locals to see [3:01:24] whether they want [3:01:24] whether they want a role to play in those [3:01:25] in those assets as well. [3:01:25] greenway evolution they been funded [3:01:32] funded by a number of sources whether [3:01:33] whether through donations to the [3:01:33] foundation [3:01:33] foundation, local, municipal and revenue [3:01:40] revenue from irca what you find -- [3:01:45] -- taxpayers of the region invested significantly [3:01:46] invested significantly in these assets and [3:01:47] assets and we want to make sure we preserve [3:01:47] we preserve them. >> thank [3:01:51] >> thank you madame morden. [3:01:52] I wanted to have the discussion [3:01:53] because [3:01:55] because this team touched on a lot [3:01:55] lot of our recreational assets [3:01:57] and key components [3:01:57] and key components. [3:01:57] I think now is the time for us to [3:02:00] to start to think as to what may happen [3:02:03] happen. [3:02:03] a plan that's positive for essex county but [3:02:09] county but I'm not going to hold my breath. [3:02:11] my breath. [3:02:11] thank you madam morden. >> councillor deyong [3:02:14] >> councillor deyong. >> [3:02:14] >> thank you. [3:02:16] I have a couple of things. [3:02:18] I want to start with page 107 and [3:02:20] and I think it will be an easy [3:02:21] answer [3:02:21] answer but there's a list of capital [3:02:26] capital expenditures and several [3:02:28] of the [3:02:28] of the items were budgeted in [3:02:30] 2025. They [3:02:30] 2025. They [3:02:30] they weren't projected to be spent [3:02:32] spent in 2025 and there budgeted [3:02:35] again in [3:02:35] again in 2026. [3:02:35] so you just -- didn't do in 2025 what [3:02:40] what we thought we were doing the capital [3:02:41] the capital expenditures. [3:02:41] I'm looking at specifically I think there's pickup [3:02:46] think there's pickup trucks, three of those [3:02:48] three of those. [3:02:48] there's mower and a sweeper truck [3:02:54] truck, it's a little bit different [3:02:56] different but there's several items we [3:02:58] items we budgeted for in 2025 and [3:02:59] and didn't spend it. [3:02:59] it's in 2026 and because I don't [3:03:03] see the reserve [3:03:03] see the reserve or levy or whatever are these [3:03:05] whatever are these items carrying [3:03:06] carrying over or are they reflecting her levy this [3:03:07] reflecting her levy this year? [3:03:07] [3:03:07] >> through you a lot of these [3:03:13] we are trying [3:03:13] are trying to order them when we can [3:03:14] can but they're not coming in [3:03:16] in the [3:03:16] the years of the dollars are not being spent. [3:03:17] being spent. [3:03:17] it doesn't mean we don't need them [3:03:19] them just you will see the dollars being spent [3:03:21] dollars being spent in the following year [3:03:21] following year. [3:03:21] and I don't know there's any particular [3:03:25] particular item you are looking at, [3:03:27] at, but some are reserves funded on summer [3:03:30] on summer levy funded. [3:03:31] it's a mix for the whole program [3:03:32]  program. >> I'm looking [3:03:34]  program. >> I'm looking [3:03:34] >> I'm looking at the four specifically I [3:03:35] specifically I mentioned because [3:03:36] he put [3:03:36] he put them on the 2025 budget [3:03:38] . I'm [3:03:38] I'm hoping those at least are all reserve [3:03:41] all reserve funded then. [3:03:42] if you want, I can give you the [3:03:46] specific [3:03:46] specific lines 3805. [3:03:51] they are all 3805, that doesn't [3:03:54] help [3:03:55] help. [laughter] [3:03:55] [laughter] [3:03:55] although 3805 that have zero in projected [3:03:59] projected are numbers 25 and 26 there's at [3:04:00] there's at least -- some would be [3:04:06] be levy funded. [3:04:06] if we don't spend it we put it to [3:04:07] to reserves and 2025. [3:04:11] >> I expect it was in the levy [3:04:20] and 22 [3:04:20] and 22 any five. [3:04:22] and 22 any five. [3:04:22] and 22 any five. [3:04:22] [3:04:22] the fact that it was in the line [3:04:27]  line, I'm [3:04:30] line, I'm wondering are those [3:04:31] being full -- pulled from the [3:04:31] being full -- pulled from the reserve [3:04:31] reserve? [3:04:31] >> they are. >> the [3:04:36] >> the one I think is -- I'm curious we budgeted [3:04:37] curious we budgeted 825 and spent [3:04:39] spent 720 of that and were looking [3:04:43] looking at 400 more. [3:04:45] I'm trying to understand those [3:04:46] numbers. [3:04:46] numbers. [3:04:46] I think 800 was two and it looks like we [3:04:49] like we bought two and now we're looking for another [3:04:51] looking for another one. [3:04:55] I'm seeing some nodding in the [3:04:57] audience [3:04:57] audience. [3:04:57] my assumption would be we put [3:05:04] in two in [3:05:04] two in the budget last year I believe [3:05:04] believe. [3:05:04] we put three in the budget last year [3:05:08] year so two were purchased and [3:05:11] we're purchasing the [3:05:12] we're purchasing the third next [3:05:12] year [3:05:13] year and I'm assuming the costs were higher [3:05:14] were higher than we anticipated [3:05:14] . [3:05:14] we will just confirm with some numbers [3:05:26] numbers to make sure. [3:05:27] >> three u. Warden just looking [3:05:38] at the budget [3:05:38] at the budget, we did budget 800,000 for two loaders [3:05:41] 800,000 for two loaders last year [3:05:41] year. [3:05:41] we got them at a better price [3:05:45] than we [3:05:45] than we thought so we spent only [3:05:46] 720,000 of that and [3:05:47] 720,000 of that and we are looking [3:05:47] looking for purchase of another loader in [3:05:50] loader in 2026. [3:05:52] >> if I may, I just have one more [3:05:57] more thing. [3:05:57] on page 159 under the -- I guess [3:06:05] it's the construction [3:06:05] it's the construction project listing the [3:06:05] listing the second last item is [3:06:07] roadway [3:06:12] roadway expansion pickets as heritage road extension [3:06:13] heritage road extension mccain [3:06:14] county [3:06:15] county road 22 road two west and I talked [3:06:18] I talked with my colleague here to [3:06:22] to figure out how heritage extends from [3:06:23] extends from maine and road two. [3:06:27] [3:06:27] is this the new road not in there yet [3:06:30] there yet? [3:06:43] >> through you, we listed that [3:06:55] under our construction [3:06:57] under our construction budget. [3:06:58] [3:06:58] it is particularly for the intersection [3:07:03] intersection of heritage road and county [3:07:04] and county road 20. [3:07:05] speaking with your administration [3:07:08] administration of the town -- they [3:07:12] they said they were going to move [3:07:13] move forward with improvement [3:07:14] at the intersection [3:07:14] the intersection so there would be a [3:07:15] be a county sheriff for that. [3:07:15] it's part of a bigger project there working towards [3:07:20] there working towards in heritage [3:07:21] heritage road north to kingsville road [3:07:23] kingsville road two. >> I appreciate [3:07:27] >> I appreciate that because it doesn't [3:07:29] doesn't really involve road two at all. [3:07:30] at all. [3:07:30] that's what threw me. I'm [3:07:32] I'm not connecting these roads [3:07:33] . Is the intersection specifically [3:07:36] is the intersection specifically [3:07:36] heritage on main [3:07:37] heritage on main street not even a four-way and it [3:07:39] a four-way and it will be upgraded [3:07:39] upgraded. [3:07:39] just one more thing I had messaged sometime throughout [3:07:46] messaged sometime throughout the [3:07:47] year asking about county [3:07:48] year asking about county road 20 from [3:07:48] from heritage to think mccain specifically [3:07:53] specifically about pay shoulders [3:07:54]  shoulders. I don't [3:07:55]  shoulders. I don't [3:07:55] I don't see it here and I think the response [3:07:56] the response I got when I asked about [3:07:58] about where it was on our plan was [3:08:00] was for 26. [3:08:01] I don't see it here. [3:08:02] I don't see it on any of the lists unless [3:08:05] lists unless I'm missing it. [3:08:05] road 20 from heritage to mccain [3:08:10] . [3:08:23] >> through you warden just some clarification [3:08:38] clarification. [3:08:38] county road 23 to mccain or heritage to [3:08:44] heritage to mccain. >> my [3:08:49] >> my question was because I had [3:08:50] gotten [3:08:51] gotten questions about the safety of biking [3:08:52] safety of biking. [3:08:52] more of our not done yet with [3:08:59] no paved shoulders. [3:08:59] no paved shoulders. [3:08:59] we have that doughnut with a dense residential [3:09:05] dense residential out of town so people [3:09:05] people bike on that. I would have loved [3:09:06] I would have loved to have seen that [3:09:07] that done which I argue nobody's [3:09:09] biking [3:09:09] biking on. [3:09:11] when I asked about specifically [3:09:14] when this [3:09:14] when this might come up in our plan for [3:09:15] plan for that I was sure that it was [3:09:19] was 26. [3:09:19] do we add those shoulders at the same [3:09:21] same time that come after -- [3:09:26] >> through you a doesn't look [3:09:28] like [3:09:28] like we included that in our 26 budget [3:09:32] budget. [3:09:32] typically we would put paved shoulders [3:09:33] shoulders on at the same time [3:09:35] as we [3:09:36] we do the resurfacing. And the odd situation [3:09:37] and the odd situation we have [3:09:40] paid [3:09:40] paid shoulders as standalone projects [3:09:40] projects. [3:09:40] >> when we are talking about the various [3:09:45] various places counter road 18 was [3:09:51] was upgraded as the road and we [3:09:51] put the [3:09:51] put the trail and don't have a [3:09:54] plan [3:09:56] plan or how to fund this going [3:09:58] forward and [3:09:59] forward and I think we will have [3:10:00] to [3:10:00] to start prioritizing were people [3:10:02] people are actually biking verses were [3:10:02] verses were doing the road let's pave the shoulders picker member [3:10:05] pave the shoulders picker member [3:10:05] arguing [3:10:06] arguing last budgeted take it [3:10:08] off [3:10:08] off and I voted down against and [3:10:11] would've loved [3:10:11] would've loved to see the dollars [3:10:12] dollars go to this road which is actually [3:10:14] actually connecting residential [3:10:14] to [3:10:17] to downtown and would've been way more [3:10:17] way more beneficial. [3:10:17] it didn't make the 26 budget. As it [3:10:22] as it may be going to be on next [3:10:22] year [3:10:23] year. I [3:10:23] I want the residents asking me [3:10:25] when it [3:10:26] when it doesn't get done because I [3:10:27] I shared with them it was going [3:10:28] to [3:10:28] to be on the 26 budget. [3:10:29] is it on the 27? [3:10:31] do we know? Is [3:10:31] is it on the horizon? [3:10:32] >> through you as I understand [3:10:36] it [3:10:37] it it's on the 27 horizon. [3:10:39] it also has a local component [3:10:45] so the [3:10:45] the town of kings well we'll have [3:10:46] have to included on the budget [3:10:46] as well [3:10:46] as well. [3:10:46] >> anyone else? [3:10:55] >> through you just a question if [3:10:59] if you could look at the budget narrative of [3:11:02] narrative of page 9 talking about [3:11:04] about the transit feasibility [3:11:06] study [3:11:06] study. Is [3:11:06] is there a typo that were talks [3:11:07] about [3:11:09] about the regional transit working group [3:11:12] working group will continue discussions [3:11:12] discussions in 2026. [3:11:13] council approved to begin a trans visibility study. [3:11:19] trans visibility study. [3:11:19] is that 2025 or am I reading that incorrect [3:11:22] that incorrect? [3:11:22] >> through you could you repeat [3:11:28] . >> it's page 9 of [3:11:29] >> it's page 9 of 13 on the narrative [3:11:29] narrative report. [3:11:31] it talks about council approved [3:11:38] 100,000 in [3:11:38] 100,000 in 2026 to begin and I transit feasibility [3:11:41] transit feasibility study. [3:11:41] is that 2025, is that a typo or [3:11:51] . Is that correct. >> through [3:11:51] . Is that correct. >> through [3:11:51] >> through you we did have the discussion in [3:11:52] discussion in 2025 about the transit and [3:11:56] transit and regional transit in [3:11:58] essex county [3:11:58] essex county and through that discussion [3:11:59] discussion in the report I was [3:12:00] directed [3:12:00] directed to include an amount of money of [3:12:02] money of the 26 budget to begin a transit feasibility [3:12:05] a transit feasibility study. [3:12:06] >> so that clarifies that. [3:12:11] there's still the transit working group. [3:12:12] there's still the transit working group. [3:12:12] I was disappointed to learn the leamington line [3:12:15] leamington line got denied this [3:12:17] year [3:12:19] year and even in the municipality of [3:12:21] municipality of leamington I think we [3:12:21] think we need to be serious in terms of [3:12:24] terms of having data and look at [3:12:26] the [3:12:26] the cost so we can have regional transit [3:12:31] transit in the county of essex. [3:12:31] we need to start somewhere so this [3:12:35] this hundred thousand will go [3:12:36] towards continuing [3:12:36] towards continuing those discussions and come back [3:12:37] discussions and come back with a [3:12:37] plan [3:12:39] plan and all local municipalities [3:12:41] municipalities need to have skin in the [3:12:42] in the game when we use the term [3:12:44]  term. [3:12:44]  term. [3:12:44] I know a lot do their own transit but [3:12:46] transit but we need to be able to connect it [3:12:47] to connect it. We [3:12:47] we applaud on how it's ec way and [3:12:54] and we got 161 kilometres yet we cannot [3:12:56] cannot even figure out how to [3:12:58] do regional [3:12:58] regional transit and we've been talking [3:12:59] talking about it for decades. More [3:13:01] more than a decade. I'd like [3:13:02] I'd like to talk about -- I'd like to [3:13:04] like to see that. [3:13:05] thank you for clarifying. [3:13:05] >> thank you. Councillor [3:13:09] councillor rogers. >> thank [3:13:10] >> thank you and through you, a couple of points [3:13:10] couple of points. [3:13:10] county road 50 feasibility study we [3:13:16] we had to know this was coming. [3:13:18] [3:13:18] I know we are going through it [3:13:20] and [3:13:20] and it's coming to fruition soon [3:13:22]  soon. [3:13:22] soon. [3:13:22] maybe the first question is an update [3:13:23] update of where we're at on it [3:13:23] . [3:13:23] >> thank you, through you we are continuing [3:13:28] continuing to finalize the feasibility study. [3:13:32] feasibility study. [3:13:32] that is looking at feasibility of [3:13:36] of adding transportation to a [3:13:40] segment [3:13:40] segment of county road 50 in kingsville [3:13:43] kingsville just east of conservation [3:13:44] conservation boulevard. [3:13:44] we've had a public meeting with [3:13:46] the [3:13:46] the community. [3:13:48] honestly we're struggling a little [3:13:50] little bit with the consultant [3:13:51] and [3:13:55] and working to get a product we [3:13:57] can [3:13:57] can share with the public and [3:13:59] would like [3:13:59] would like to thank the town of kingsville and your Administration [3:14:01] would like to thank the town of kingsville and your Administration [3:14:01] administration for working with [3:14:01] us [3:14:02] us through this project. [3:14:06] one thing I could share with council at the [3:14:07] council at the moment is it looks like prior [3:14:11] looks like prior to doing any [3:14:15] surface [3:14:15] surface work or trail construction [3:14:16] construction there's likely going to have to [3:14:17] going to have to be some stormwater [3:14:17] stormwater's -- solution to that [3:14:21] and it [3:14:21] and it would likely be through the municipal [3:14:22] the municipal drainage process [3:14:22] . [3:14:22] that's likely coming in the near [3:14:27] future [3:14:28] future for council at the town [3:14:30] of kingsville to consider [3:14:30] of kingsville to consider. [3:14:30] >> is there any items in this [3:14:37] budget [3:14:37] budget for that project? [3:14:37] >> through you, there is not. [3:14:42] we need to get through this feasibility [3:14:43] feasibility study and bring that [3:14:45] recommendation [3:14:49] recommendation to county counsel and because it was [3:14:49] and because it was so late in the [3:14:49] the year we were not able to get [3:14:52] it [3:14:53] it into the 27 -- 26 budget. >> maybe a couple of [3:14:57] >> maybe a couple of comments on that [3:14:57] that. [3:14:57] hearing my colleagues talk about [3:15:02] road [3:15:04] road 50 -- it's to my knowledge [3:15:07] that [3:15:07] that the section hasn't been brought [3:15:08] brought before council but this is [3:15:09] is actually a section approved [3:15:13] by council, [3:15:14] by council, a feasibility study has [3:15:14] has been approved for it. [3:15:14] there's understanding there's drainage and [3:15:18] drainage and utility dollars for that project [3:15:19] that project. [3:15:19] I think it's only where the county has been out [3:15:23] county has been out and identified [3:15:23] identified -- we know it's going to [3:15:27] to be a big project but us waiting [3:15:29] waiting and kicking the can down [3:15:30] another year [3:15:31] another year for me is we'd like to see [3:15:31] to see some sort of dollar. [3:15:32] with dollars coming out for the [3:15:35] project [3:15:37] project my hope is from the feasibility [3:15:38] feasibility study within the same [3:15:41] same pocket maybe there's some dollars [3:15:43] dollars there for us to continue to move this [3:15:44] to move this project forward. [3:15:45] I'd hate for it to be a stalemate [3:15:48] stalemate over another year because [3:15:49] because we know there will be [3:15:49] a lot of [3:15:49] lot of work and not doubting -- have [3:15:54] have to take some land there. [3:15:55] there's a lot of things that will be done if [3:15:56] will be done if we move forward. We delayed [3:15:58] we delayed another year then it's another [3:16:01] it's another year and continuing [3:16:02] to [3:16:02] to kick it down the road. [3:16:03] maybe a couple of comments, please. [3:16:05] please. [3:16:05] >> thank you, through you warden [3:16:08]  warden. [3:16:08] warden. [3:16:08] I believe there are differences [3:16:10] between county [3:16:13] between county road 50 and in kingsville [3:16:14] kingsville. [3:16:14] one that comes to mind is I'm certain [3:16:20] certain the project and abbess [3:16:20] berg is [3:16:21] berg is part of the current network. [3:16:23] berg is part of the current network. [3:16:23] it was one of the projects further [3:16:26] further into the future and it [3:16:27] wasn't one of [3:16:27] wasn't one of the low hanging [3:16:29] fruits [3:16:29] fruits that we could tackle easily [3:16:30] easily so it's been on the books [3:16:31] and planning for that [3:16:33] and planning for that. [3:16:33] the project in kingsville I believe was [3:16:39] believe was set aside because of the [3:16:39] the difficulties and because of the work [3:16:42] the work they done on their own [3:16:43] to find another [3:16:43] to find another solution to complete that active Transportation [3:16:47] to find another solution to complete that active Transportation [3:16:47] transportation facility. [3:16:47] -- there was a solution currently in [3:16:59] currently in play and I wouldn't [3:17:04] want to leave [3:17:04] want to leave council of the idea they [3:17:05] idea they will be doing anything in [3:17:07] in 2026 with that project. [3:17:08] it'll be brought back for council's [3:17:10] council's consideration because [3:17:11] I [3:17:13] I am of the opinion that the first that will be a [3:17:15] first that will be a drainage [3:17:16] solution [3:17:16] solution that likely get started [3:17:19] if [3:17:19] if things fall in line in the [3:17:20] right reports [3:17:20] right reports get written to the [3:17:23] different councils I could start [3:17:23] different councils I could start [3:17:23] this year [3:17:23] this year. [3:17:23] >> I like the word could. [3:17:30] thank you. >> [3:17:31] >> anyone else? [3:17:31] there is a recommendation for council that the [3:17:37] council that the presentation [3:17:42] infrastructure and planning Services [3:17:42] infrastructure and planning Services [3:17:42] services budget -- the estimates [3:17:46] for infrastructure [3:17:48] for infrastructure planning services [3:17:49] services be received or received and [3:17:50] and approved. [3:17:50] looking for your direction. Councillor [3:17:50] councillor gibb. >> received and [3:17:54] >> received and approved. >> councillor gibb [3:17:59] >> councillor gibb. [3:17:59] looking for a second or. Councillor rogers [3:18:01] councillor rogers pick any discussion [3:18:01] discussion of the motion? [3:18:01] we will ask you to vote electronically [3:18:05] electronically, please. [3:18:17] and that's carried. [3:18:33] it's now time for lunch so I'm going [3:18:39] going to need a motion to recess for [3:18:41] for a 30 minute lunch break. [3:18:44] it's 12:18. I'm [3:18:45] I'm looking at 12:48. [3:18:47] a mover and a second or moved [3:18:53] by councillor [3:18:53] councillor meloche. [3:18:53] seconded by council prue. All in [3:18:56] all in favour. I [3:18:56] I will ask you to sit for minute because [3:18:58] because we have some instructions. [3:18:58] instructions. [3:18:58] all in favour and nobody wants to go. [3:19:01] all in favour and nobody wants to go. [3:19:01] that's approved. [3:19:01] the note from the clerk is please enter the [3:19:07] please enter the kitchen by the [3:19:07] main [3:19:08] main hallway, not the eerie room for [3:19:11] for the lunch key when she's asking council [3:19:12] asking council vote first. [3:19:13] don't you like to be the ones that go [3:19:15] that go first? [3:19:16] were good? Understood [3:19:20] understood? [3:19:20] understood? [3:19:20] great. [3:19:39] [3:19:39] [3:19:39] [3:19:39] [3:21:16] [3:21:16] [3:21:16] [3:21:16] [3:21:16] [3:21:16] [3:23:28] [3:23:28] [3:23:28] [3:24:59] [3:24:59] [3:24:59] [3:24:59] [3:24:59] [3:24:59] >> speaker-01: I'm going to call [4:04:02] call the meeting to order. [4:04:03] is after 1:00. [4:04:05] we are going to start the next [4:04:06] session [4:04:08] session of budget with the essex [4:04:09]  essex [4:04:09] essex county library. [4:04:10] for that we have adam cracknell [4:04:14] chief [4:04:14] chief librarian to present the [4:04:15] 2026 [4:04:15] 2026 budget estimates. [4:04:16] over to you, adam. [4:04:17] >> thank you, madame morden. [4:04:20] the 2025 was the first full year [4:04:23] of [4:04:24] of work toward the goal set up [4:04:25] in [4:04:25] in the recent essex strategic [4:04:27] plan [4:04:27] plan and that includes the mission [4:04:29] mission statement before you. [4:04:30] the idea of the library being [4:04:32] a space [4:04:32] space for discovery for all of [4:04:34] the [4:04:34] the heart of our committees has [4:04:35] been [4:04:36] been rocked -- brought to life [4:04:37] by [4:04:37] by the work our staff have been [4:04:39] doing [4:04:39] doing across 14 branches. [4:04:40] we see substantial measurable [4:04:41] increases [4:04:41] increases in engagement, particularly [4:04:42] particularly with programming [4:04:45] and [4:04:45] and do user sign-ups. [4:04:46] for example, between february [4:04:48] and [4:04:48] and november of this year, we [4:04:49] welcomed [4:04:49] welcomed over 1000 new memberships [4:04:51] memberships to the library. [4:04:51] I think this reinforces the notion [4:04:55] notion that the library is an [4:04:56] important [4:04:56] important part of more and more [4:04:58] community [4:04:58] community members lives. [4:04:58] taking it a step further, the [4:05:02] essex [4:05:02] essex county libraries vision [4:05:04] statement [4:05:04] statement that you have here emphasizes [4:05:05] emphasizes connecting its patrons [4:05:07] patrons to information and entertainment [4:05:08] entertainment. [4:05:08] our responsive service and community [4:05:12] community embedded staff contribute [4:05:13] contribute to positioning the [4:05:14] library [4:05:14] library as a cornerstone of  of county [4:05:15] of county services. [4:05:15] we are not emergency medicine [4:05:20] nor [4:05:20] nor housing but I think it could [4:05:22] be [4:05:22] be argued that the library provides [4:05:25] provides critical service in support [4:05:26] support of increasing quality [4:05:27] of life [4:05:27] life for every resident of essex [4:05:30]  essex county [4:05:30] essex county. [4:05:30] we foster lifelong learning and [4:05:31] community [4:05:32] community engagement in ways that [4:05:34] that few other organizations do [4:05:35] . [4:05:35] post-pandemic, we have continued [4:05:37] building [4:05:38] building woman meant -- momentum [4:05:38] toward [4:05:39] toward achieving the vision. [4:05:39] our staff delivered 2242 programs [4:05:42] programs between january and november of [4:05:43] november of this year. [4:05:44] this was over 84,000 patrons across [4:05:48] across the county. [4:05:49] by comparison in all of 2024, [4:05:51] we had [4:05:51] had a 77,000 program attendees [4:05:52] . [4:05:52] we've already surpassed our 2024 [4:05:57] totals [4:05:57] totals and had record-breaking [4:05:58] months [4:05:58] months in july and october of [4:05:59] this [4:05:59] this year. [4:05:59] I'm here today to ask for what [4:06:03] we [4:06:04] we believe is a modest increase [4:06:06] tied [4:06:06] tied largely to negotiated changes [4:06:07] changes in salary and benefits [4:06:09] . [4:06:09] our net departmental requirement [4:06:10] has [4:06:10] has gone from 7,006,460 in 2025 [4:06:14] to [4:06:15] to 7,165,280 in 2026. [4:06:19] this is not discretionary cost [4:06:21] growth [4:06:22] growth. [4:06:22] this is tied to salary and benefits [4:06:23] benefits. [4:06:23] as you can see, staffing costs [4:06:28] account [4:06:28] account for the line share of [4:06:30] this [4:06:30] this budget at 71.8 percent, followed [4:06:32] followed by material costs. [4:06:33] that is cost associated with books [4:06:35] books and dvds and other loanable [4:06:37] loanable materials, at about 12% 12%. [4:06:39] loanable materials, at about 12% 12%. [4:06:39] what this meant during the preparation [4:06:41] preparation process for today, [4:06:42] we [4:06:42] we took a deep look at historically [4:06:44] historically under spent the budget [4:06:45] budget lines and reallocated accordingly [4:06:46] accordingly to ensure that our [4:06:47] core [4:06:48] core functions are being met and [4:06:49] that [4:06:49] that there is very little fat [4:06:51] on this [4:06:51] this budget. [4:06:51] as mentioned, the 2026 budget [4:06:57] includes [4:06:57] includes request for increases [4:06:58] of [4:06:59] of 128,000 dollars for wages and [4:07:04] another [4:07:04] another 30,700 for benefit cost [4:07:05] . [4:07:05] overall, the proposed request [4:07:09] accounts [4:07:09] accounts and amounts to 2.3% increase [4:07:12] increase over the 2025 budget, [4:07:13] this [4:07:14] this level of increase would allow [4:07:15] allow us to maintain our current [4:07:16] staffing [4:07:16] staffing levels, which in turn [4:07:17] allows [4:07:18] allows the library to continue [4:07:18] providing [4:07:21] providing quality, community service [4:07:22] service at all 14 branches. [4:07:23] with that, I would be happy to [4:07:26] answer [4:07:26] answer any questions. [4:07:27] >> thank you. [4:07:29] questions for our chief librarian [4:07:30] librarian? [4:07:30] councilor deyong. [4:07:31] >> I think I know the answer but [4:07:36] on [4:07:36] on the salaries, students from [4:07:37] 2025 [4:07:38] 2025 of this budget a 200,000, [4:07:40] we [4:07:40] we didn't spend any of that towards [4:07:42] towards not propose we will. [4:07:43] and we are looking for 328 for [4:07:46] 26. [4:07:46] 26. [4:07:46] so it is up $130,000. [4:07:47] even though we didn't have any [4:07:50] projected [4:07:50] projected for 2025. [4:07:51] but I see part-time is down by [4:07:53] almost [4:07:53] almost three something. [4:07:57] is that the difference? [4:07:58] >> there are a couple of items [4:08:00] here [4:08:00] here where we moved things around [4:08:02] around. [4:08:02] the costing stayed the same, if [4:08:05] I'm [4:08:05] I'm not mistaken. [4:08:06] we actually sort of changed the [4:08:08] naming [4:08:08] naming on the budget lines. [4:08:09] there is another place where you [4:08:10] will [4:08:11] will see electronic data and hosting [4:08:14] hosting services. [4:08:14] it has us asking for zero dollars [4:08:18] dollars there but that funding [4:08:19] is [4:08:19] is actually moved to another client [4:08:20] client. [4:08:20] is a more descriptive and were [4:08:21] appropriate [4:08:22] appropriate. [4:08:22] it is actually not a change in [4:08:25] the [4:08:25] the dollars we are asking. [4:08:27] please correct me if I am speaking [4:08:28] speaking. [4:08:28] it's not a change in the dollars [4:08:30] we [4:08:30] we are asking, just moving into [4:08:31] other [4:08:32] other places where they are more [4:08:33] appropriate [4:08:33] appropriate. [4:08:33] >> that's what I figured. [4:08:37] students are part-timers and that's [4:08:38] that's why the two lines are interchangeable [4:08:40] interchangeable. [4:08:40] thank you. [4:08:40] >> anyone else? [4:08:42] deputy warden. [4:08:45] >> thank you. [4:08:45] thank you, adam for preventing [4:08:50] the [4:08:51] the ball it -- the budget. [4:08:52] the library board, we have many [4:08:57] councillors [4:08:57] councillors to sit on the library [4:08:59] library board, a councilor from [4:09:07] la salle [4:09:07] la salle and leamington and kingsville [4:09:08] kingsville. [4:09:08] I'm very proud working with this [4:09:12] budget [4:09:12] budget in terms of offering the [4:09:13] programs [4:09:14] programs and just to mention, [4:09:17] I know [4:09:17] know throughout a him, there is [4:09:19] a [4:09:19] a lot of increase in terms of [4:09:21] the [4:09:21] the surplus books due to the flood [4:09:22] flood and so a lot of these discarded [4:09:26] discarded books have been put [4:09:27] to good [4:09:27] good use. [4:09:27] there are several board members [4:09:28] that [4:09:29] that took advantage of having [4:09:30] community [4:09:30] community events. [4:09:30] I encourage anyone, if there are [4:09:34] any [4:09:34] any groups or people that you [4:09:36] know [4:09:36] know, please share the word, contact [4:09:37] contact adam and he will connect [4:09:39] you [4:09:39] you with that and you can have [4:09:41] a community [4:09:42] community free book giveaway. [4:09:43] thank you for fostering that, [4:09:44] into [4:09:44] into your staff as well. [4:09:45] thank you. [4:09:45] >> councilor bondy. [4:09:49] >> thank you, warden macdonald [4:09:50] . [4:09:50] it is a solid budget. [4:09:55] not asking for any real increases [4:09:56] increases. [4:09:56] my question is more, we know the [4:10:01] herald [4:10:01] herald library had a division [4:10:02] c in [4:10:03] in -- a deficiency in stop for [4:10:04] a while [4:10:04] while. [4:10:04] are there any branches that are [4:10:06] lacking [4:10:06] lacking staff right now and if [4:10:10] so [4:10:10] so, is this something you are [4:10:12] looking [4:10:12] looking to be addressed in 2027? [4:10:14] >> if the question is do we need [4:10:23] -- I can always do more with [4:10:25] with more. [4:10:25] I think maintaining our current [4:10:27] level [4:10:27] level of service, we are seeing [4:10:29] it [4:10:29] it pay off in 2027 we could look [4:10:31] at [4:10:31] at it over the course of 26. [4:10:33] if there were a need to adjust [4:10:35] staffing [4:10:35] staffing levels, we would certainly [4:10:36] certainly come back to the table [4:10:37] and [4:10:37] and ask in 27. [4:10:38] >> it is something that of  of course [4:10:43] of course I will bring up at the [4:10:44] board [4:10:44] board but I wanted to ask that [4:10:46] question [4:10:46] question here as well because [4:10:47] we know [4:10:47] know that numbers are going up [4:10:49] , circulation [4:10:49] circulation is trending up. [4:10:50] I want to make sure the current [4:10:51] level [4:10:52] level of stuff like any other [4:10:53] service [4:10:53] service we provide is adequate [4:10:54] in [4:10:55] in that when we get new branches [4:10:56] as [4:10:57] as well, it could potentially [4:11:02] need [4:11:02] need more hours in the future. [4:11:03] [4:11:03] that is something that I want [4:11:04] to make [4:11:05] make sure we are looking at. [4:11:06] every time we get a new branch [4:11:08] , there [4:11:08] there is a renewed energy in that [4:11:09] that community. [4:11:10] so thank you. [4:11:10] whenever the discussion is right [4:11:14]  right, [4:11:14] right, I will make a motion to [4:11:16] support [4:11:17] support the budget. [4:11:17] >> thank you. [4:11:18] anyone else? [4:11:18] seeing there is no one else, there [4:11:28] there is a recommendation before [4:11:30] council [4:11:30] council that the presentation [4:11:31] for [4:11:31] for the proposed 2026 essex  essex county [4:11:34] essex county library board budget [4:11:35] budget be received, and further [4:11:36] that [4:11:36] that the 2026 budget estimates [4:11:39] for [4:11:39] for essex county library board [4:11:40] be [4:11:40] be received or received and approved [4:11:41] approved. [4:11:41] councilor bondy, what is your [4:11:45] wish [4:11:45] wish? [4:11:45] >> may I please receive and approve [4:11:46] approve. [4:11:46] >> moved by councilor bondy to [4:11:50] receive [4:11:50] receive and approve. [4:11:51] second -- seconder? [4:11:53] deputy warden. [4:11:55] any discussion on the motion? [4:11:58] seeing none, I will ask you to [4:12:00] vote [4:12:00] vote electronically. [4:12:00] that is carried. [4:12:11] thank you. [4:12:11] thanks, adam. [4:12:14] thank you, finance team. [4:12:18] next up, we have general government [4:12:23] government services. [4:12:23] for that report, we have melissa [4:12:24] ryan, [4:12:25] ryan, our director of financial [4:12:32] services [4:12:32] services and treasury. [4:12:33] we have david something, our director [4:12:35] director of legal legislative. [4:12:36] [4:12:36] darrell la ronde oh, our director [4:12:39] director of I.t. Information and [4:12:40] we [4:12:40] we have -- are we going to have [4:12:44] danielle [4:12:44] danielle or are you going to do [4:12:45] that [4:12:46] that? [4:12:46] danielle is going to do it. [4:12:47] okay. [4:12:47] interim director human resources [4:12:48]  resources. [4:12:48]  resources. [4:12:48] but there is no chair for you. [4:12:51] [4:12:51] we are going to switch. [4:12:57] perfect. [4:12:57] over to you. [4:12:58] >> thank you. [4:12:58] the next department for discussion [4:13:02] discussion is the general government [4:13:03] government services area. [4:13:04] for this presentation of the warden [4:13:06] warden alluded to, the four directors [4:13:08] directors will present each representing [4:13:09] representing their respective [4:13:10] areas [4:13:10] areas. [4:13:10] the general government department [4:13:13] department is made up of several [4:13:14] key [4:13:15] key divisions that provide the [4:13:16] backbone [4:13:16] backbone of county operations. [4:13:17] [4:13:17] as a whole, this department plays [4:13:19] plays a strategic role offering [4:13:21] leadership [4:13:21] leadership, legal and financial [4:13:22] guidance [4:13:23] guidance and setting policies [4:13:24] that [4:13:24] that support all county services [4:13:25]  services. [4:13:25]  services. [4:13:25] the council services budget couples -- [4:13:28] couples -- covers council remuneration [4:13:29] remuneration and all related expenses [4:13:30] expenses, corporate management [4:13:31] includes [4:13:32] includes the ceos office and legislative [4:13:34] legislative services which handles [4:13:35] handles legal matters, records [4:13:36] management [4:13:36] management, medication and organizational [4:13:39] organizational development. [4:13:39] financial services also oversees [4:13:41] procurement [4:13:41] procurement while information [4:13:42] technology [4:13:42] technology and tune resources [4:13:43] round [4:13:43] round out the team providing essential [4:13:45] essential systems, tools and support [4:13:46] support across the organization [4:13:47] . [4:13:47] as you can see on this slide, [4:13:57] the [4:13:57] the overall general government [4:13:57] area [4:13:58] area shows an increase of just [4:13:59] over [4:13:59] over 1 million, bringing the total [4:14:00] total net department total requirement [4:14:01] requirement to just over 9.5 million. [4:14:02] requirement to just over 9.5 million. [4:14:02] this change reflects adjustments [4:14:03] across [4:14:03] across all four divisions within [4:14:04] the [4:14:04] the department. [4:14:05] at this point, I will turn things [4:14:06] things over to mr. David something [4:14:07] something, our director of legislative [4:14:08] legislative and community services [4:14:09] services, county solicitors walk [4:14:10] through [4:14:10] through his area in more detail [4:14:11] . [4:14:11] >> corporate management reflects [4:14:16] the [4:14:16] the combined operations of both [4:14:17] the [4:14:18] the office of the cao and the [4:14:19] legislative [4:14:19] legislative and legal services [4:14:20] department [4:14:20] department. [4:14:20] the draft budget before council [4:14:23] is [4:14:23] is very much a status quo budget [4:14:25] from [4:14:25] from my department's perspective [4:14:26]  perspective. [4:14:26]  perspective. [4:14:26] we are not seeking any additional [4:14:28] additional amounts. [4:14:29] in fact, there's a 15.5% decrease [4:14:30] decrease in the court manage -- [4:14:32] or [4:14:33] or budget which is a $430,000 [4:14:36] decrease [4:14:36] decrease. [4:14:36] that reduction is due to staffing [4:14:37] staffing, realignment and a new [4:14:39] admission [4:14:40] admission ration cost recovery [4:14:40] . [4:14:40] that's being said, there are two [4:14:43] business [4:14:43] business cases at appendix three [4:14:44] that [4:14:45] that I would be happy to take [4:14:46] any [4:14:46] any questions on. [4:14:47] in 2026, now that's a number of [4:14:51] departmental [4:14:51] departmental changes have been [4:14:52] implemented [4:14:52] implemented in the past two years [4:14:54] years, corporate management will [4:14:54] continue [4:14:55] continue to focus on being a dependable [4:14:58] dependable resource other county [4:14:58] departments [4:14:59] departments and across the region [4:15:00] region. [4:15:00] we provide support to other departments [4:15:06] departments in county but we are [4:15:07] also [4:15:07] also hereto and I think we do [4:15:09] supports [4:15:09] supports council. [4:15:09] for the -- pass number of years [4:15:11] , the [4:15:12] the corporate management group [4:15:13] has [4:15:13] has become a resource that local [4:15:16] municipalities [4:15:16] municipalities rely on for sharing [4:15:17] sharing ideas, best practices [4:15:20] and [4:15:20] and promoting everyone working [4:15:20] together [4:15:21] together as a region. [4:15:21] this is the case of the county [4:15:24] cao [4:15:24] cao taking lead in regular meetings [4:15:26] meetings. [4:15:26] the county clerk taking a regular [4:15:28] regular meeting with local clerks [4:15:29] clerks. [4:15:29] and the county's lister and deputy [4:15:31] deputy solicitor recently taken [4:15:32] the [4:15:32] the lead in ensuring the legal [4:15:33] departments [4:15:34] departments and the county meet [4:15:34] regularly [4:15:35] regularly. [4:15:35] this work was already underway [4:15:39] prior [4:15:39] prior to this plan being adopted [4:15:40]  adopted. [4:15:40]  adopted. [4:15:40] with that plan in place, we recognize [4:15:43] recognize the importance of focusing [4:15:44] focusing on this work to ensure [4:15:45] that [4:15:45] that we are advancing the strategic [4:15:47] strategic goals of working as [4:15:49] team [4:15:49] team essex county, and growing [4:15:50] as [4:15:50] as leaders in public service excellence [4:15:52] excellence. [4:15:52] one of the other strategic direction [4:15:56] direction set by council is the [4:15:57] county [4:15:57] county should focus on being an [4:15:59] employer [4:16:00] employer with impacts. [4:16:01] the communication division will [4:16:01] take [4:16:02] take the lead on employing excellence [4:16:04] excellence awards and ensuring [4:16:05] long [4:16:05] long service is acknowledged, [4:16:08] refining [4:16:08] refining existing engagement opportunities [4:16:09] opportunities and reviewing the [4:16:11] recently [4:16:11] recently completed employee engagement [4:16:12] engagement survey. [4:16:12] further, the strategic plan also [4:16:16] calls [4:16:17] calls for advancing truth and [4:16:18] reconciliation [4:16:18] reconciliation at the county. [4:16:19] relations with indigenous communities [4:16:20] communities built in our area. [4:16:21] [4:16:21] it will advance key strategic [4:16:25] goal [4:16:25] goal, the county taking steps [4:16:27] to engage [4:16:27] engage a consultant to assist [4:16:28] in developing [4:16:29] developing a plan to ensure we [4:16:30] are [4:16:30] are meeting our obligations to [4:16:31] our [4:16:32] our indigenous peoples. [4:16:32] it's anticipated the plan will [4:16:33] be [4:16:33] be ready for council's review [4:16:35] in 2026. [4:16:35] in 2026. [4:16:35] in 2021, the county had a consultant [4:16:41] consultant review the county's [4:16:42] records [4:16:43] records and information management [4:16:43] management program. [4:16:44] as that plan, a review is outdated [4:16:48] outdated and budgetary pressures [4:16:49] prevented [4:16:49] prevented the county from implementing [4:16:50] implementing some of those key [4:16:51] recommendations [4:16:51] recommendations. [4:16:51] the environment for how records [4:16:55] are [4:16:56] are stored electronically has [4:16:57] changed [4:16:57] changed significantly since then [4:16:58]  then. [4:16:58]  then. [4:16:58] a review of the plan will be completed [4:17:00] completed in 2026. [4:17:00] the goal is to ensure our records [4:17:03] records management plan is appropriate [4:17:04] appropriate and builds on the [4:17:06] county [4:17:06] county's commitment to effective [4:17:07] records [4:17:08] records management and insurers [4:17:09] organize [4:17:09] organize and secure management [4:17:10] of [4:17:10] of critical information. [4:17:11] with sets, I will throw it over [4:17:18] to [4:17:18] to melissa. [4:17:18] >> thank you. [4:17:22] financial services has another [4:17:23] busy [4:17:23] busy year ahead, as we continue [4:17:25] modernizing [4:17:25] modernizing how we do business [4:17:26] . [4:17:26] a lot of the big foundational [4:17:28] work [4:17:28] work started in 2025 and in 2026 [4:17:29] we [4:17:30] we will be putting it into motion [4:17:32] motion, especially with the rollout [4:17:33] rollout of the new budget software [4:17:34] software to utilize for the 2027 [4:17:36] county [4:17:36] county budget and the continuing [4:17:37] modules [4:17:37] modules over a new human resources [4:17:39] resources information system a [4:17:40] form [4:17:40] form. [4:17:40] of these tools make budgeting [4:17:42] and [4:17:42] and financial planning easier, [4:17:43] clear [4:17:44] clear and more efficient for everyone [4:17:45] everyone across the organization [4:17:46]  organization. [4:17:46]  organization. [4:17:46] it will also keep focusing on [4:17:48] the [4:17:48] the things that strengthen the [4:17:49] county [4:17:49] county's long-term financial position [4:17:50] position, helping departments [4:17:52] with [4:17:52] with deeper financial analysis [4:17:53] , more [4:17:54] more strategic procurement report [4:17:54] report -- support and making sure [4:17:55] sure we get good value for the [4:17:57] contracts [4:17:58] contracts we enter into. [4:17:59] all the behind-the-scenes work [4:18:00] that [4:18:01] that protects the levee and supports [4:18:02] supports good decision-making. [4:18:02] one of the bigger items in this [4:18:05] years [4:18:05] years finance budget is the 1 million-dollar [4:18:07] 1 million-dollar contribution [4:18:07] toward [4:18:07] toward the ems hub and capital [4:18:09] plan [4:18:09] plan. [4:18:09] this is a levy funded item exactly [4:18:12] exactly in line with the funding [4:18:13] model [4:18:14] model council received in august [4:18:14]  august. [4:18:14]  august. [4:18:14] it keeps us on track so when we [4:18:17] move [4:18:17] move forward with these land purchases [4:18:19] purchases, design and construction [4:18:20] construction, the reserve capacity [4:18:20] capacity will be in place or at [4:18:22] the [4:18:23] the very least we have a plan [4:18:25] to replenish [4:18:25] replenish what is being depleted [4:18:26]  depleted. [4:18:26]  depleted. [4:18:26] a quick note on internal recoveries [4:18:28] recoveries, you will see movement [4:18:30] movement between general government [4:18:30] government departments this year [4:18:31]  year. [4:18:31]  year. [4:18:31] that's mainly reallocating cost [4:18:32] where [4:18:33] where they more accurately live [4:18:35] . [4:18:35] it looks busy but doesn't change [4:18:37] the [4:18:37] the overall amounts. [4:18:38] for example, there was -- there [4:18:40] were [4:18:41] were legal recoveries previously [4:18:42] housed [4:18:42] housed in finance however they [4:18:44] were [4:18:44] were moved to the corporate management [4:18:45] management area to reflect support [4:18:46] support they provide to other [4:18:48] departments [4:18:48] departments. [4:18:48] finally, one small comment, earlier [4:18:51] earlier this year presented a [4:18:52] report [4:18:52] report on the county's credit [4:18:54] rating [4:18:54] rating as there was -- questions [4:18:55] about [4:18:55] about the cost benefit of this [4:18:57] exercise [4:18:58] exercise. [4:18:58] there are no dollars included [4:18:59] in the [4:18:59] the draft budget for the credit [4:19:01] rating [4:19:01] rating report at this time. [4:19:02] if council wants to added back [4:19:03] in [4:19:04] in, that certainly can be done [4:19:05] at [4:19:05] at the end of the meeting today [4:19:07] . [4:19:07] otherwise, there is the 2025 report [4:19:09] report which you saw on the consent [4:19:11] consent agenda. [4:19:11] the county did receive a aaa credit [4:19:13] credit rating so that will hold [4:19:15] until [4:19:15] until the annual process is due [4:19:17] for [4:19:17] for renewal. [4:19:17] at that time, I would advise smp [4:19:20] we [4:19:20] we will not continue with the [4:19:22] credit [4:19:22] credit rating process. [4:19:22] with that, I turn it over to daryl [4:19:26] daryl, our director of information [4:19:27] information technology. [4:19:27] >> thank you. [4:19:27] thank you for giving me the opportunity [4:19:31] opportunity to speak with you [4:19:33] today [4:19:33] today about the proposed 2026 [4:19:35] information [4:19:35] information technology services [4:19:36] budget [4:19:36] budget. [4:19:36] I would like to start by acknowledging [4:19:38] acknowledging the hard work of [4:19:39] the [4:19:40] the small but mighty I.t. Team [4:19:41] that [4:19:41] that made 2025 a successful year [4:19:44] for [4:19:44] for our department, particularly [4:19:45] in [4:19:46] in advancing several key initiatives [4:19:47] initiatives. [4:19:47] in july 2025, we took another [4:19:51] step [4:19:51] step toward centralizing our service [4:19:52] service delivery model by onboarding [4:19:54] onboarding our business analyst [4:19:54] . [4:19:54] since then, we've made significant [4:19:57] significant progress in understanding [4:19:58] understanding our application [4:19:59] landscape [4:19:59] landscape, our data structures [4:20:00] and [4:20:00] and how our employees use our [4:20:03] systems [4:20:03] systems. [4:20:03] we've already seen immediate results [4:20:04] results for bringing in the business [4:20:08] business world into the organization [4:20:09] organization, especially project [4:20:10] engagement [4:20:11] engagement and helping move several [4:20:12] several initiatives across the [4:20:12] finish [4:20:13] finish line. [4:20:13] in early 2025, we also implemented [4:20:17] implemented and launched our managed [4:20:19] managed detection and response [4:20:20] system [4:20:20] system service through field effects [4:20:21] effects in partnership with tell [4:20:22] us [4:20:22] us work this investment has already [4:20:24] already paid dividends as our [4:20:28] modern [4:20:28] modern provider alerted us to [4:20:30] attempted [4:20:30] attempted logins from russian [4:20:31] threat [4:20:31] threat actors trying to access [4:20:33] our [4:20:33] our environment. [4:20:34] this validated the importance [4:20:36] and [4:20:36] and urgency of enhancing our cybersecurity [4:20:37] cybersecurity initiatives. [4:20:37] in the third quarter of 2025, [4:20:42] we upgraded [4:20:42] upgraded our firewall, which was [4:20:43] long [4:20:43] long overdue replacement. [4:20:44] this upgrade has allowed us to [4:20:49] implement [4:20:49] implement stronger security controls [4:20:50] controls, including geo-fencing [4:20:51] and [4:20:51] and stricter access rules, helping [4:20:53] helping us better protect the [4:20:54] county [4:20:54] county's environment. [4:20:55] we also made strategic staffing [4:20:58] improvements [4:20:58] improvements this year. [4:20:58] one of our help desk analyst positions [4:21:01] positions was reclassified into [4:21:02] a [4:21:02] a help desk lead role. [4:21:03] this change has strengthened our [4:21:05] ability [4:21:06] ability to coordinate daily operations [4:21:08] operations, assigned tasks effectively [4:21:09] effectively, and ensure urgent [4:21:11] issues [4:21:11] issues are prioritized appropriately [4:21:12] appropriately. [4:21:12] finally, this quarter has been [4:21:15] especially [4:21:15] especially exciting as we successfully [4:21:16] successfully advanced our microsoft [4:21:17] microsoft 365 project. [4:21:19] over the past few weeks, we have [4:21:22] onboarding [4:21:22] onboarding staff to exchange online [4:21:23] online, implemented teams and [4:21:24] enabled [4:21:24] enabled cloud-based collaboration [4:21:25] collaboration tools. [4:21:25] we are now moving into the design [4:21:29] design phase of our sharepoint [4:21:31] environment [4:21:31] environment with targeted implementation [4:21:32] implementation in the first and [4:21:33] second [4:21:33] second quarters of 2026. [4:21:35] thank you to council for your [4:21:37] support [4:21:37] support of these initiatives in [4:21:38] 2025. [4:21:38] 2025. [4:21:38] in 2026, we continue advancing [4:21:43] the [4:21:43] the work recommended through the [4:21:44] 2023 [4:21:46] 2023 service delivery review. [4:21:47] in the proposed budget, you will [4:21:49] see [4:21:49] see line items related to improving [4:21:52] improving network availability [4:21:52] , dependability [4:21:53] dependability and software and [4:21:54] service [4:21:54] service monitoring tools. [4:21:55] these tools will allow us to better [4:21:58] better monitor the performance [4:22:00] of [4:22:00] of our environment, proactively [4:22:01] detect [4:22:01] detect issues and receive alerts [4:22:02] before [4:22:03] before outages occur. [4:22:03] if systems or services go down [4:22:07] , our [4:22:07] our enhanced visibility will ensure [4:22:09] ensure we are aware of the issues [4:22:11] issues immediately and are able [4:22:13] to [4:22:13] to respond before users are able [4:22:14] to [4:22:15] to report on these issues. [4:22:16] in addition, we will continue [4:22:19] exploring [4:22:19] exploring efficiency tools recommended [4:22:21] recommended through the service [4:22:22] delivery [4:22:22] delivery review, particularly [4:22:23] those [4:22:23] those that are now available to [4:22:25] us [4:22:25] us through our recent microsoft [4:22:26] 365 [4:22:26] 365 migration. [4:22:26] as part of the county's mission [4:22:29] , the [4:22:30] the I.t. Department will strengthen [4:22:31] strengthen relationships with [4:22:32] other [4:22:32] other I.t. Departments in the [4:22:36] region [4:22:36] region as well as other locals [4:22:37] thought [4:22:38] thought leaders, building this [4:22:39] community [4:22:39] community of practice will help [4:22:40] us [4:22:41] us. [4:22:41] knowledge, align emerging best [4:22:43] practices [4:22:43] practices and implement solutions [4:22:45] solutions that benefit the broader [4:22:46] broader region. [4:22:47] finally, we will continue our [4:22:49] cloud [4:22:49] cloud migration journey. [4:22:49] now that the county is operating [4:22:51] on [4:22:51] on microsoft 365, we will further [4:22:54] further embrace cloud services [4:22:55] to [4:22:55] to support and improve service [4:22:57] delivery [4:22:57] delivery. [4:22:57] in this budget, you will see references [4:23:00] references to our as were environment [4:23:02] environment, now rebranded by [4:23:03] microsoft [4:23:03] microsoft as microsoft entre. [4:23:04] this transition is important as [4:23:08] it [4:23:08] it will enable greater administrative [4:23:09] administrative control, stronger [4:23:11] governance [4:23:11] governance and improve protection [4:23:11] protection from threat actors. [4:23:12] [4:23:12] the current slide identifies business [4:23:18] business cases I.t. Submitted [4:23:19] for [4:23:19] for consideration. [4:23:19] if there are any questions, I'm [4:23:20] happy [4:23:20] happy to answer them at the end [4:23:22] of [4:23:22] of these presentations. [4:23:23] but we will continue to strengthen [4:23:26] strengthen our cybersecurity posture [4:23:27] posture. [4:23:27] this includes ongoing initiatives [4:23:28] initiatives such as our no before [4:23:31] before security awareness training [4:23:31] training program, which will remain [4:23:32] remain a core component to our [4:23:36] defence [4:23:37] defence strategy. [4:23:37] we will also be upgrading our [4:23:39] mobile [4:23:39] mobile device management platform [4:23:39] platform. [4:23:39] this upgrade will improve our [4:23:44] management [4:23:44] management capabilities while [4:23:45] also [4:23:45] also providing cost savings for [4:23:46] the [4:23:46] the organization. [4:23:47] we will be performing additional [4:23:50] network [4:23:50] network upgrades throughout the [4:23:52] year [4:23:52] year, enabling improved monitoring [4:23:53] monitoring of our network quality [4:23:54] quality access device management [4:23:54]  management. [4:23:54]  management. [4:23:54] in 2025, the county also created [4:23:59] an [4:23:59] an ai policy and is working on [4:24:01] an [4:24:02] an ai framework. [4:24:02] building on that momentum, one [4:24:04] of [4:24:04] of our top parties for 2026 is [4:24:06] run [4:24:06] run an ai productivity pilot in [4:24:09] the [4:24:09] the county. [4:24:09] now the work really operating [4:24:11] within [4:24:11] within the microsoft 365 environment [4:24:13] environment, we plan to work with [4:24:15] with approximately 25 users who [4:24:16] will [4:24:17] will be identified early in the [4:24:18] new [4:24:18] new year to evaluate how the paid [4:24:20] paid version of microsoft pilot [4:24:21] can [4:24:21] can help reduce time spent on [4:24:23] routine [4:24:23] routine task and improve our overall [4:24:25] overall productivity. [4:24:26] we will also continue our full [4:24:28] transition [4:24:28] transition into the microsoft [4:24:32] 365 [4:24:32] 365 ecosystem, by establishing [4:24:32] our [4:24:33] our sharepoint environment. [4:24:33] this will expand our ability to [4:24:36] support [4:24:37] support asynchronous and synchronous [4:24:38] synchronous collaboration across [4:24:39] employees [4:24:40] employees, teams, departments [4:24:41] and [4:24:41] and partner organizations. [4:24:41] thank you very much. [4:24:44] I will handed over to danielle [4:24:45] lappage [4:24:45] lappage. [4:24:45] >> thank you, worden. [4:24:53] through you to county council, [4:24:55] to [4:24:55] to strengthen the service delivery [4:24:57] delivery and meet increasing operational [4:24:59] operational demands, the 2026 [4:25:01] budget [4:25:01] budget includes two new hr positions [4:25:04] positions, a shared human resource [4:25:05] resource generalist to support [4:25:06] ems [4:25:06] ems and sun parlor homes and a [4:25:09] human [4:25:10] human resources assistant to facilitate [4:25:11] facilitate the implementation [4:25:13] and [4:25:13] and administration of the redesigned [4:25:14] redesigned attendant support policy [4:25:16] policy. [4:25:16] together, these additions will [4:25:19] enhance [4:25:19] enhance recruitment, compliance [4:25:20] and [4:25:21] and employee support across the [4:25:22] corporation [4:25:23] corporation helping to optimize [4:25:24] the [4:25:24] the potential of every employee [4:25:26] and [4:25:26] and ensure sustainable service [4:25:27] delivery [4:25:27] delivery. [4:25:27] this slide outlines hr's priorities [4:25:35] priorities for 2026 for collective [4:25:37] collective bargaining in 2026, [4:25:39] hr [4:25:40] hr will engage in collective bargaining [4:25:41] bargaining with 5 of 6 union groups [4:25:43] groups. [4:25:43] this will be a key area of focus [4:25:45]  focus, [4:25:45] focus, particularly for the first half [4:25:46] first half of the year. [4:25:48] our objective is to engage in [4:25:51] respectful [4:25:51] respectful, collaborative negotiations [4:25:52] negotiations that recognize the [4:25:54] valuable [4:25:54] valuable contributions of the [4:25:55] workforce [4:25:55] workforce while ensuring fiscal [4:25:56] sustainability [4:25:56] sustainability. [4:25:56] building on the recruitment enhancements [4:25:58] enhancements meet in 2025, hr [4:26:02] will [4:26:02] will continue to strengthen strategies [4:26:03] strategies that attract and retain [4:26:04] retain diverse, skilled and motivated [4:26:09] motivated employees. [4:26:09] will refine onboarding processes [4:26:10]  processes, [4:26:10] processes, that has the candidate [4:26:12] candidate experience and ensure [4:26:13] equity [4:26:13] equity and accessibility at every [4:26:14] every stage. [4:26:15] in addition, we will continue [4:26:16] to assess [4:26:18] assess compensation and benefit [4:26:20] offerings [4:26:20] offerings to maintain competitiveness [4:26:21] competitiveness in the labor market [4:26:22] market. [4:26:22] for employee development and training [4:26:25] training in 2026, we will continue [4:26:28] continue to expand leadership [4:26:29] and [4:26:29] and professional development opportunities [4:26:30] opportunities, including the quarterly [4:26:33] quarterly leadership meetings [4:26:34] to strengthen [4:26:34] strengthen organizational capacity [4:26:35] capacity and support long-term [4:26:36] success [4:26:36] success. [4:26:36] in 2026, the implementation of [4:26:42] the [4:26:42] the refreshed attendance support [4:26:43] policy [4:26:43] policy will be a major focus, [4:26:45] providing [4:26:45] providing a proactive and supportive [4:26:47] supportive framework for addressing [4:26:48] addressing attendance concerns [4:26:49] and [4:26:50] and encouraging open communication [4:26:50] communication between employees [4:26:51] and [4:26:51] and leaders. [4:26:51] a positive and inclusive culture [4:26:56] is [4:26:56] is a foundational to employee [4:26:58] engagement [4:26:58] engagement and retention. [4:26:58] building on a culture -- building [4:27:02] building on the culture conversations [4:27:03] conversations initiated in 2025, [4:27:04] hr [4:27:04] hr will lead the next phase of [4:27:06] this [4:27:07] this work in 2026, expanding discussions [4:27:09] discussions countywide to reinforce [4:27:11] reinforce shared values, expectations [4:27:13] expectations and daily practices [4:27:14] that [4:27:14] that contribute to a respectful [4:27:15] and [4:27:15] and collaborative workplace. [4:27:16] ensuring policies remain current [4:27:20]  current, [4:27:20] current, compliant and reflective [4:27:22] reflective of best practices will [4:27:23] will continue to be a key priority [4:27:25] priority. [4:27:25] hr will continue to take systemic [4:27:26] systemic policy reviews and updates [4:27:29] updates to align with the evolving [4:27:30] evolving legislation and county [4:27:31] operations [4:27:31] operations. [4:27:31] following the successful implementation [4:27:35] implementation of the new human [4:27:37] resource [4:27:37] resource information system in [4:27:38] 2025 [4:27:39] 2025, the 2026 focus includes [4:27:42] deploying [4:27:42] deploying the workforce management [4:27:43] management and scheduling module [4:27:45] to [4:27:45] to improve integration and enable [4:27:46] enable data-driven insights for [4:27:47] workforce [4:27:47] workforce planning. [4:27:47] finally, from a health and safety [4:27:51] safety and emergency management [4:27:52] perspective [4:27:52] perspective, as the county grows [4:27:54]  grows, [4:27:54] grows, hr will continue to strengthen [4:27:55] strengthen its health and safety [4:27:57] and [4:27:57] and emergency programs to ensure [4:27:59] all [4:27:59] all workplaces meet or exceed [4:28:01] regulatory [4:28:01] regulatory requirements. [4:28:01] we will have targeted training [4:28:03] , especially [4:28:03] especially in emergency management [4:28:05] management, and continue to promote [4:28:07] promote a culture of shared responsibility [4:28:08] responsibility for workplace safety [4:28:09] safety. [4:28:09] with that, over to you. [4:28:11] >> that concludes the general [4:28:19]  general government [4:28:19] general government area. [4:28:20] if anyone has any questions for [4:28:22] any [4:28:22] any of the directors, please feel [4:28:23] feel free to ask at this time. [4:28:25] [4:28:25] >> thank you. [4:28:27] are there questions? [4:28:28] we start with councilor prue. [4:28:30] >> thank you. [4:28:30] I have two questions. [4:28:32] the first has to do with truth [4:28:34] and [4:28:34] and reconciliation. [4:28:35] I noticed that that was one of [4:28:37] the [4:28:38] the elements that's going to be [4:28:39] dealt [4:28:39] dealt with this year. [4:28:40] can you tell me with whom are [4:28:43] you [4:28:43] you going to deal in developing [4:28:44] this [4:28:45] this process? [4:28:45] I would take it probably caldwell [4:28:48] caldwell first nations and may [4:28:49] be [4:28:49] be another. [4:28:50] is there anyone else on that list [4:28:51] list that will be first -- that [4:28:52] will [4:28:53] will be consulted? [4:28:53] >> we are -- it may have been [4:28:59] issued [4:28:59] issued today or yesterday, an [4:29:00] rfp [4:29:00] rfp to find a consultant to assist [4:29:02] assist us. [4:29:02] in advance of that, letters were [4:29:05] sent [4:29:06] sent out to caldwell first  first nation [4:29:07] first nation, and indigenous group [4:29:07] group at the university of windsor [4:29:09] windsor and they can then friendship [4:29:12] friendship centre so the three [4:29:13] local [4:29:13] local indigenous groups that we [4:29:17] are [4:29:18] are aware of have received letters [4:29:19] letters from us, asking that they [4:29:20] they participate in the process [4:29:21] . [4:29:21] >> are there any other groups [4:29:27] that [4:29:27] that you may want to use? [4:29:29] I'm just thinking in terms of [4:29:32] some [4:29:32] some of the work that some of [4:29:35] them [4:29:35] them do. [4:29:35] there are groups out there that [4:29:36] you [4:29:37] you provide child care. [4:29:37] there out there that provide help [4:29:41] help for older people, for poverty [4:29:42] poverty reduction, for a number [4:29:46] of [4:29:46] of things that are aboriginal [4:29:47] base [4:29:47] base. [4:29:47] are you dealing with any of them [4:29:49]  them? [4:29:49]  them? [4:29:49] >> I think the vision was, once [4:29:53] we [4:29:53] we have a consultant in place, [4:29:55] we [4:29:55] we will for grow two we should [4:29:57] be [4:29:57] be involving in the process. [4:29:58] we thought it was appropriate [4:29:59] to ensure [4:29:59] ensure that those in the region [4:30:01] who [4:30:03] who are recognized indigenous [4:30:04] groups [4:30:04] groups should be advised in advance [4:30:08] advance, and that's why rewrote [4:30:09] to [4:30:09] to caldwell first nation and the [4:30:12] two [4:30:12] two other groups in the city. [4:30:13] >> are they going to advise on [4:30:18] the [4:30:18] the person to conduct the study [4:30:19] or [4:30:20] or are they part of the study? [4:30:21] >> they have been asked to participate [4:30:26] participate in the process and [4:30:27] that [4:30:28] that the rfp was being issued. [4:30:29] [4:30:29] >> that would be my question. [4:30:31] but I do have a question for someone [4:30:34] someone else. [4:30:34] >> any other questions? [4:30:38] I will go to councilor rogers [4:30:47] and [4:30:47] and then come back to you. [4:30:48] >> may be a clarification piece [4:30:50] on [4:30:51] on the truth and reconciliation [4:30:52] . [4:30:52] I believe there are 21 steps within [4:30:58] within the municipality as far [4:30:59] as [4:30:59] as the road to truth and reconciliation [4:31:02] reconciliation. [4:31:02] maybe if you could comment on [4:31:07] that [4:31:07] that item, where we're at as far [4:31:08] as [4:31:08] as those steps. [4:31:09] I understand we want to be respectful [4:31:11] respectful and ensure we are taking [4:31:12] taking those steps but there is [4:31:13] a [4:31:13] a booklet that says what municipalities [4:31:15] municipalities should be doing [4:31:15] . [4:31:15] if we are not doing those items [4:31:18] first, [4:31:18] first, to me it doesn't make sense [4:31:20] sense to reach out and find more [4:31:21] items [4:31:21] items that we should be doing [4:31:23] before [4:31:23] before something that's actually [4:31:24] been [4:31:24] been documented for us to do first. [4:31:26] been documented for us to do first. [4:31:26] >> we have limited capabilities [4:31:32] here [4:31:32] here at this stage to know what [4:31:35] we [4:31:35] we should be doing going forward [4:31:36]  forward. [4:31:36]  forward. [4:31:36] that's the purpose of bringing [4:31:38] in [4:31:38] in a consultant to say what should [4:31:39] should the county be doing? [4:31:41] this year, for example, I'm not [4:31:42] sure [4:31:42] sure when we started the process [4:31:45] but [4:31:45] but we do land to him -- land [4:31:48] acknowledgements [4:31:48] acknowledgements at council meetings [4:31:49] meetings. [4:31:49] we ensure truth and reconciliation [4:31:50] reconciliation day that there [4:31:53] is an [4:31:53] an event here at the county to [4:31:55] recognize [4:31:55] recognize that. [4:31:56] we are doing what we can do. [4:31:57] but now we are going to come up [4:32:00] to [4:32:00] to a fulsome plan specific to [4:32:03] the [4:32:03] the county with our local indigenous [4:32:04] indigenous partners. [4:32:04] >> further three you, madame worden [4:32:10] worden, we are using that book [4:32:11] for [4:32:11] for reference, and again I think [4:32:14] it's [4:32:14] it's 21 items, 20 items. [4:32:15] you mentioned a couple of them [4:32:17] but [4:32:17] but there were more items there [4:32:19] . [4:32:19] so my question is is that's going [4:32:21] going to be a consultant going [4:32:23] to [4:32:23] to tell us the other items that [4:32:24] have [4:32:25] have to be done when we already [4:32:26] have [4:32:26] have the information. [4:32:27] my point is we have information [4:32:29] , we [4:32:30] we haven't may be completed anything [4:32:31] anything on that list. [4:32:32] what's the point of bringing in [4:32:34] another [4:32:34] another consultant when there [4:32:35] is still [4:32:35] still work to be done? [4:32:36] maybe it's a question for the [4:32:38] cao [4:32:38] cao? [4:32:38] >> the rfp we have is to develop [4:32:45] truth [4:32:45] truth and reconciliation action [4:32:46] plan [4:32:46] plan. [4:32:46] the foundation of that action [4:32:49] plan [4:32:49] plan are those directed steps [4:32:51] that [4:32:51] that municipalities across the [4:32:52] province [4:32:53] province are required to engage [4:32:54] in [4:32:55] in. [4:32:55] the consultant is going to take [4:32:56] an [4:32:56] an inventory of the things we [4:32:58] are [4:32:58] are already doing and see what [4:32:59] boxes [4:32:59] boxes we are achieving and highlight [4:33:02] highlight for us to things that [4:33:03] we [4:33:03] we are falling short on or build [4:33:05] us [4:33:05] us a plan in both short and long-term [4:33:07] long-term of how the county can [4:33:08] move [4:33:08] move toward full compliance with [4:33:12] those [4:33:13] those directions and steps as [4:33:14] the [4:33:14] the director said, it's going [4:33:16] to be [4:33:16] be specific to the county of essex [4:33:18] essex and the work that we do [4:33:19] here [4:33:19] here at the minister polity. [4:33:20] but also, the summer, we had representatives [4:33:24] representatives from amo come [4:33:25] because [4:33:25] because as an organization, they [4:33:26] have [4:33:26] have also undertaken this work [4:33:28] . [4:33:28] we wanted to make sure that our [4:33:30] rfp [4:33:30] rfp was informed by the work of [4:33:32] amo [4:33:32] amo that we are not duplicating [4:33:34] things [4:33:34] things as well. [4:33:35] so certainly to your point, there [4:33:36] there are a number of foundational [4:33:37] foundational pieces we need to [4:33:38] consider [4:33:39] consider. [4:33:39] the scope of the work for the [4:33:42] rfp [4:33:42] rfp for the consultant asked the [4:33:43] consultant [4:33:44] consultant to look at those foundational [4:33:45] foundational pieces in light of [4:33:46] what [4:33:46] what we are currently doing, where [4:33:47] where we have gaps and help us [4:33:49] build [4:33:50] build a plan to action ourselves [4:33:51] towards [4:33:52] towards compliance on both the [4:33:53] short [4:33:53] short and long-term basis. [4:33:54] >> may be final, I appreciate [4:33:58] that [4:33:58] that, I want to make sure, there [4:34:00] have [4:34:00] have been steps put out there [4:34:01] for [4:34:01] for us to follow and they want [4:34:03] to [4:34:03] to make sure that that is the [4:34:05] guidebook [4:34:05] guidebook and the path that we [4:34:06] are [4:34:06] are following moving forward. [4:34:07] so thank you. [4:34:07] >> thank you. [4:34:08] councilor waldstedt. [4:34:13] >> a couple of things. [4:34:15] the first is on the same topic [4:34:17] . [4:34:17] if everything is laid out by the [4:34:20] province [4:34:20] province of the federal government [4:34:21] government with respect to this [4:34:22] issue [4:34:22] issue, and I see we are budgeting [4:34:27] budgeting $226, 226,000 to tell [4:34:32] us [4:34:32] us to go over it and double check [4:34:34] check it to see if we are doing [4:34:36] everything [4:34:36] everything we should. [4:34:37] is that not all laid out for us [4:34:39] already [4:34:39] already? [4:34:39] I don't know why we would spend [4:34:42] a [4:34:42] a quarter of $1 million to have [4:34:43] a [4:34:43] a consultant tell us. [4:34:44] we have people in charge of these [4:34:49] these programs that know what [4:34:51] we are [4:34:51] are doing and we are meeting the [4:34:53] requirements [4:34:53] requirements of the legislation [4:34:54] in [4:34:54] in the policy at the federal and [4:34:56] provincial [4:34:57] provincial level. [4:34:57] why would we spend a quarter of [4:34:59] a [4:34:59] a million dollars to have somebody [4:35:01] somebody look at it to tell us [4:35:02] what [4:35:02] what we already know and why would [4:35:04] would we go beyond what we are [4:35:05] asked [4:35:05] asked to do in any event? [4:35:07] >> just to clarify within the [4:35:21] budget [4:35:21] budget, and I'm not sure what's [4:35:23] mine [4:35:23] mine is being referred to right [4:35:25] now [4:35:25] now but 75,000 has been put in [4:35:28] for [4:35:28] for truth and reconciliation consultant [4:35:29] consultant and $30,000 has been [4:35:30] in [4:35:31] in sort -- inserted for our record [4:35:33] record management review that [4:35:34] I spoke [4:35:34] spoke about in my presentation [4:35:35] . [4:35:35] >> further? [4:35:38] >> my question remains the same [4:35:42] . [4:35:42] the amount hasn't change, soria [4:35:44] had [4:35:45] had the wrong line item. [4:35:46] 70,000 instead of 226? [4:35:47] that's what I hear. [4:35:50] any comments on my concern with [4:35:56] respect [4:35:56] respect to having an outside individual [4:35:59] individual tell us? [4:36:00] I don't know for sure but if it's [4:36:03] it's in black and white in front [4:36:05] of [4:36:05] of us, I don't know if we need [4:36:07] someone [4:36:07] someone to tell us what that means [4:36:08] means. [4:36:08] >> I'm going to look to our finance [4:36:13] finance friends to help confirm [4:36:14] my [4:36:14] my understanding. [4:36:14] the rfp we have just released [4:36:18] in 2025 [4:36:18] 2025 was based on a project approved [4:36:21] approved in the 2025 budget. [4:36:22] we have already approved the funds [4:36:26] funds to seek a consultant. [4:36:27] admittedly, it is late in the [4:36:30] air [4:36:30] air. [4:36:30] we hope to get this project off [4:36:32] the [4:36:32] the ground earlier in 2025. [4:36:33] knowing that amo was working on [4:36:36] their [4:36:36] their process, we wanted to inform [4:36:38] inform our rfp scope so we weren't [4:36:40] weren't duplicating effort. [4:36:40] my understanding is the budget [4:36:44] funds [4:36:44] funds for the consultant's work [4:36:45] has [4:36:46] has already been approved in 2025 [4:36:48] 2025. [4:36:48] we have an rfp out right now. [4:36:50] we hope to secure the consultant [4:36:52] before [4:36:52] before the end of the year and [4:36:54] the [4:36:54] the work will proceed in 2026. [4:36:55] perhaps most can clarify that. [4:36:57] [4:36:57] >> yes, that is correct. [4:36:59] that was a 2025 initiative. [4:37:00] the rfp is coming out at the end [4:37:06] of [4:37:07] of the year but we do -- we did [4:37:08] have [4:37:09] have that approved in the 2025 [4:37:10] budget [4:37:10] budget. [4:37:10] >> thank you. [4:37:12] so it is still at 70,000? [4:37:16] or are we adding it? [4:37:17] it was approved in 2025, why's [4:37:20] it [4:37:21] it back in the budget again this [4:37:22] year [4:37:22] year? [4:37:22] what am I missing? [4:37:23] >> I recall it being 50. [4:37:31] it's a little convoluted because [4:37:33] that [4:37:33] that line includes other consultant [4:37:34] consultant costs we can get the [4:37:35] exact [4:37:36] exact figure but I believe we [4:37:38] did [4:37:38] did have 50,000 earmarked in 2025 [4:37:39] 2025 for those costs and we will [4:37:42] confirm [4:37:42] confirm what the consultant costs [4:37:43] costs are for 2026 and what does [4:37:47] exactly [4:37:47] exactly where. [4:37:47] I do remember there being potentially [4:37:52] potentially initiatives that came [4:37:54] came out of what the rfp advised [4:37:55] us [4:37:55] us to do. [4:37:56] we were trying to locate daughter [4:37:57] daughter -- locate dollars but [4:37:59] I will [4:38:00] will confirm that with what's [4:38:01] in the budget [4:38:01] the budget. [4:38:01] >> my other concern is I guess [4:38:09] on [4:38:09] on page 122 of the budget, I see [4:38:14] salaries [4:38:14] salaries for county council salaries [4:38:15] salaries. [4:38:15] it goes from 518 to 538. [4:38:19] what percentage is that? [4:38:19] a 2% increase or what is the actual [4:38:22] actual percentage? [4:38:23] >> that would be 2.5%. [4:38:27] >> thank you. [4:38:27] I'm just concerned, madame warden [4:38:32] warden, with respect -- I know [4:38:35] we've [4:38:36] we've been going through the budget [4:38:37] budget and we've cut some things [4:38:39] out [4:38:39] out to try to keep it at a reasonable [4:38:41] reasonable level. [4:38:41] but the canadian economy isn't [4:38:44] good [4:38:44] good at all. [4:38:45] we have 11% unemployment rate [4:38:48] in windsor-essex [4:38:48] windsor-essex county, which I [4:38:49] understand [4:38:49] understand is the highest in canada [4:38:51] canada. [4:38:51] I just don't think it is proper [4:38:53] for [4:38:54] for us -- we talk about social  social service [4:38:58] social service requirement and [4:38:59] housing [4:38:59] housing and everything else and [4:39:00] I [4:39:00] I know it's probably in line with [4:39:04] with what would be -- what we've [4:39:05] been [4:39:05] been giving through union agreements [4:39:06] agreements but we need to be responsible [4:39:10] responsible, and I know it's not [4:39:11] a [4:39:11] a lot of money. [4:39:12] it's about $20,000 but I think [4:39:13] it's [4:39:14] it's important that we show some [4:39:17] leadership [4:39:17] leadership with respect to that [4:39:18] . [4:39:18] I am not in favour of increasing [4:39:19] wages [4:39:22] wages by 2.5% for this year. [4:39:23] I know that arguments can be made [4:39:27] made that if we do this, we do [4:39:29] this [4:39:29] this constantly and we are falling [4:39:31] falling behind but every few years [4:39:32] years, council seems to have a [4:39:35] study [4:39:36] study done in any event that takes [4:39:37] takes a look at it and inevitably [4:39:40] inevitably it increases in some [4:39:42] way [4:39:42] way, shape or fashion. [4:39:43] but that is for future councils [4:39:45] to [4:39:45] to decide. [4:39:46] why am not in favour of that. [4:39:49] I won't support this part of the [4:39:51] budget [4:39:51] budget unless there is some way [4:39:53] of [4:39:53] of pulling that item out and dealing [4:39:54] dealing with it separate or dealing [4:39:56] dealing with the motion to approve [4:39:58] approve it but not increasing [4:40:05] the [4:40:05] the salaries and indemnities for [4:40:06] council [4:40:06] council. [4:40:06] >> thank you. [4:40:08] councilor deyong. [4:40:12] >> I have a question on the council [4:40:15] council services budget. [4:40:15] meeting expenses have been pretty [4:40:19] pretty steady and then it triples [4:40:20] triples this year. [4:40:21] I'm wondering what they expected [4:40:22] -- what that line is? [4:40:25] line 2110. [4:40:27] >> I will start as david continues [4:40:31] continues to look. [4:40:32] in 2026, it will be an election [4:40:36] year [4:40:36] year. [4:40:36] so what we were finding when we [4:40:38] were [4:40:38] were going through the budget [4:40:39] is that [4:40:39] that we weren't allocating enough [4:40:41] enough to reserves for those meetings [4:40:44] meetings every year. [4:40:44] I know there's the wardens luncheon [4:40:46] luncheon and stuff like that that [4:40:47] that happens once every four years [4:40:49] years. [4:40:49] you will definitely see a spike [4:40:51] in [4:40:51] in there because of those reasons [4:40:52] reasons as well as some other [4:40:54] items [4:40:54] items related to it being an election [4:40:56] election year. [4:40:56] >> just to clarify, there is no [4:41:03] actual [4:41:04] actual election activity expense [4:41:04] that [4:41:05] that the county incurs, or is [4:41:07] there [4:41:07] there? [4:41:07] you are talking about the outcome [4:41:08] outcome of the election and the [4:41:10] new [4:41:10] new council and whatever is involved [4:41:11] involved with onboarding the new [4:41:12] council [4:41:13] council but is there an election [4:41:14] expense [4:41:14] expense as well? [4:41:15] >> yes, and no. [4:41:21] they know being we are not involved [4:41:24] involved in the elections but [4:41:26] there [4:41:26] there always is an annual -- every [4:41:28] every four years there is a dinner, [4:41:31] dinner, organizing the former [4:41:32] -- we [4:41:35] we do that. [4:41:35] going forward, we want to level [4:41:39] this [4:41:39] this off so there's a little money [4:41:41] money put aside each year so you [4:41:43] don't [4:41:43] don't see huge spikes in election [4:41:44] election years. [4:41:44] >> councilor bondy. [4:41:52] >> thank you. [4:41:55] a couple of comments already out [4:41:57] there [4:41:57] there, the wardens outgoing dinner [4:41:59] dinner, that has never been considered [4:42:04] considered to be a ticketed event [4:42:05] event. [4:42:05] from what I remember, it is not [4:42:07] ticketed [4:42:07] ticketed. [4:42:07] the people that get invited don't [4:42:09] don't have to pay anything. [4:42:10] rather than doing maintenance [4:42:14] on the [4:42:14] the wages, I would rather look [4:42:15] at [4:42:16] at that -- like I would buy my [4:42:18] ticket [4:42:18] ticket. [4:42:18] has that ever been looked at? [4:42:20] >> it is a ticketed events. [4:42:23] I don't recall the amount of the [4:42:25] tickets [4:42:25] tickets but it is ticketed. [4:42:26] $125 per ticket. [4:42:28] >> thank you. [4:42:34] I don't think I've ever paid for [4:42:36] it [4:42:36] it. [4:42:36] my local must pay for it. [4:42:37] I don't think we have. [4:42:40] I don't know. [4:42:40] I look -- I could be wrong. [4:42:43] I look forward to paying for it [4:42:45] this [4:42:45] this year. [4:42:45] I will support if someone makes [4:42:47] a [4:42:47] a motion or I can make a motion [4:42:49] , I [4:42:49] I will support the budget as presented [4:42:51] presented. [4:42:51] I don't believe that we should [4:42:54] pull [4:42:54] pull out the maintenance on county [4:42:56] county councillors salaries because [4:42:57] because that is what got us so [4:43:00] far [4:43:00] far behind, was not doing maintenance [4:43:02] maintenance on the salaries. [4:43:03] so I don't want to go backwards [4:43:04] on [4:43:05] on that. [4:43:05] I think it is responsible for [4:43:09] us to [4:43:09] to keep the maintenance in there [4:43:11]  there, [4:43:11] there, just like everything. [4:43:12] the reason why we were targeted [4:43:13] this [4:43:14] this term, some of us, was because [4:43:16] because there was no responsible [4:43:17] maintenance [4:43:17] maintenance in the future. [4:43:18] whether we make a motion that [4:43:21] we receive [4:43:21] receive this or pull it out, I'm [4:43:23] willing [4:43:24] willing to make the motion that [4:43:25] we [4:43:25] we do it all. [4:43:26] >> I just want to get a line of [4:43:32] established [4:43:32] established year. [4:43:33] the first to speak are going to [4:43:35] have [4:43:35] have preference. [4:43:35] then I will come back to councilor [4:43:37] councilor prue and then councilor [4:43:39] councilor deyong. [4:43:39] councilor akpata. [4:43:40] >> thank you. [4:43:40] to the director of I.t., a quick [4:43:43] question [4:43:43] question on the end of support [4:43:48] for [4:43:48] for the windows 10 solution. [4:43:49] have we transition completely? [4:43:50] [4:43:50] we don't have machines tucked [4:43:52] in corners [4:43:52] corners running it? [4:43:53] just want to make sure we're in [4:43:55] the [4:43:55] the proper cyberspace that we [4:43:56] need [4:43:56] need to be. [4:43:57] >> we do have some machines left [4:43:58] in [4:43:59] in the environment with windows [4:44:00]  windows 10 [4:44:01] windows 10. [4:44:01] they support systems that are [4:44:05] third [4:44:05] third party proprietary and cannot [4:44:06] cannot be updated at this time [4:44:07] . [4:44:07] we are taking extra diligence [4:44:11] to make [4:44:11] make sure that every patch that [4:44:12] we [4:44:13] we can apply to those is applied [4:44:15] and [4:44:15] and we are working with our mdr [4:44:17] service [4:44:18] service provider to ensure those [4:44:19] systems [4:44:19] systems are specifically monitored [4:44:20] monitored as well because they [4:44:22] are [4:44:22] are still machines. [4:44:23] >> a supplemental, I want to make [4:44:29] make sure that I understand the [4:44:31] machines [4:44:32] machines running windows 10 aren't [4:44:32] aren't running any critical -- [4:44:33] without [4:44:34] without breaching security, I [4:44:35] would [4:44:35] would assume were not running [4:44:37] critical [4:44:37] critical for structure or anything [4:44:38] anything like that. [4:44:38] you've got them walled off so [4:44:41] should [4:44:41] should something happen, you are [4:44:42] able [4:44:43] able to mitigate what may happen [4:44:45] with [4:44:45] with running old software. [4:44:46] >> that is a good assumption. [4:44:48] >> thank you, madame warden. [4:44:49] >> thank you. [4:44:50] no other questions? [4:44:51] I will come back to councilor [4:44:57] prue [4:44:57] prue. [4:44:57] >> thank you, madame warden. [4:44:59] my other question relates to the [4:45:01] credit [4:45:01] credit rating. [4:45:01] I remember if it wasn't laughter [4:45:04]  laughter, [4:45:04] laughter, may be the year before [4:45:06]  before, [4:45:06] before, there was quite a spirited [4:45:07] spirited debate about a credit [4:45:09] rating [4:45:10] rating. [4:45:10] I remember speaking against it [4:45:13] and [4:45:13] and everyone voted to continue [4:45:14] with [4:45:15] with the credit rating. [4:45:15] all of a sudden, we have a motion [4:45:17] motion that we don't need it anymore [4:45:19] anymore. [4:45:19] can you tell me what the change [4:45:21] has [4:45:21] has been during that period? [4:45:22] I agree we don't need it. [4:45:23] we didn't need it then either. [4:45:25] [4:45:25] but why now are you saying we [4:45:27] don't [4:45:27] don't need it? [4:45:27] >> the conversation was had in [4:45:32] 2025 [4:45:33] 2025 when I did a thorough analysis [4:45:34] analysis of what it means to actually [4:45:36] actually get this done and what [4:45:37] the [4:45:37] the consensus was at that time [4:45:38] was [4:45:39] was it would be deliberated at [4:45:40] budget [4:45:40] budget time. [4:45:40] we didn't include it in the budget [4:45:43] budget right now. [4:45:43] however, if you choose to put [4:45:45] it back [4:45:45] back in the budget, it's $28,000 [4:45:48] that [4:45:48] that there is the opportunity [4:45:50] to do [4:45:50] do that. [4:45:51] there wasn't consensus, it was [4:45:53] more [4:45:53] more or less deliberated at budget [4:45:55] budget time because we had already [4:45:56] already approved $2025, and the [4:45:58] exercise [4:45:58] exercise happened in october of [4:45:59] every [4:45:59] every year. [4:45:59] I think it was, we are ready approved [4:46:02] approved the budget or the credit [4:46:04] credit rating in 2025 and then [4:46:05] we [4:46:06] we will deliberated for 2026. [4:46:07] >> why did you take it out of [4:46:10] the [4:46:10] the budget? [4:46:10] >> based on council direction [4:46:13] to that [4:46:15] that at or below inflation, we [4:46:17] chose [4:46:17] chose -- administration chose [4:46:19] to take [4:46:19] take it out. [4:46:19] but obviously there is an opportunity [4:46:21] opportunity to still put it back [4:46:22] in [4:46:22] in. [4:46:22] >> but you took it out because [4:46:24] you [4:46:24] you didn't think it was necessary [4:46:25] necessary. [4:46:25] it's not something that is really [4:46:28] really required? [4:46:28] >> it is up for council debate [4:46:32] . [4:46:32] I guess when we are looking at [4:46:36] the [4:46:36] the priorities, it wasn't the [4:46:37] highest [4:46:37] highest priority so we did leave [4:46:39] it [4:46:39] it out. [4:46:39] >> okay. [4:46:41] thank you for that. [4:46:44] just as a comment to the other [4:46:46] thing [4:46:47] thing, I was 1 of 3 who did not [4:46:49] vote [4:46:49] vote for the increase in salaries [4:46:51] salaries and I do not feel that [4:46:52] I [4:46:53] I can vote for a 2.5% increase [4:46:57] on [4:46:57] on a salary increase I did not [4:46:59] approve [4:46:59] approve in the first place. [4:47:00] so I will be joining councilor [4:47:02] waldstedt [4:47:02] waldstedt, if that comes up. [4:47:03] thank you. [4:47:04] >> thank you. [4:47:07] councilor deyong. [4:47:07] >> thank you. [4:47:08] there are so many different budgets [4:47:09] budgets and I had my questions [4:47:12] in [4:47:12] in a row. [4:47:12] I wanted to get clarification. [4:47:14] [4:47:14] I think it was the financial services [4:47:16] services budget you talked about [4:47:17]  about. [4:47:17]  about. [4:47:17] I think it's a million dollars [4:47:19] of [4:47:20] of the financial services budget [4:47:21] going [4:47:22] going toward ems. [4:47:22] I wanted to make sure I heard [4:47:24] that [4:47:24] that clearly. [4:47:24] there's a lot of talk around ems [4:47:26] today [4:47:26] today but it's under financial [4:47:28] services [4:47:28] services budget going to reserve [4:47:29] for [4:47:29] for the spoke building. [4:47:31] is that what I understand? [4:47:32] >> correct. [4:47:33] finance houses the land so we [4:47:35] would [4:47:35] would own the land and the building [4:47:37] building. [4:47:37] so we have that under the finance [4:47:38] finance budget but it is for ems [4:47:42] capital [4:47:42] capital. [4:47:42] >> thank you. [4:47:42] and back to mr. Sunday and, you [4:47:43] talked [4:47:44] talked about appendix three and [4:47:47] I [4:47:47] I wanted to give you an opportunity [4:47:49] opportunity, I'm looking specifically [4:47:50] specifically [4:47:50] specifically [4:47:50] specifically [4:47:50] at 19 and 20 and I wonder [4:47:52] wonder if they go together. [4:47:53] 19 is reserve funded so I don't [4:47:56] understand [4:47:57] understand why we would do that [4:47:58] . [4:47:58] I'm guessing maybe it is only [4:48:01] possible [4:48:01] possible if we do 20? [4:48:02] >> yes, number 19 and 20 are the [4:48:06] two [4:48:06] two are referred to in my presentation [4:48:08] presentation. [4:48:08] 19 observe funded in order to [4:48:09] make [4:48:09] make improvements to a room in [4:48:10] the [4:48:11] the basement. [4:48:11] records management is managed [4:48:15] records management is managed [4:48:15] records management is managed [4:48:15] [4:48:15] [4:48:15] [4:48:15] by the [4:48:15] the deputy clerk, who follows [4:48:18] -- who [4:48:18] who falls within my department [4:48:20] . [4:48:20] we have records that are kind [4:48:22] of everywhere [4:48:22] everywhere across the county. [4:48:23] we're trying to get to the point [4:48:25] where [4:48:25] where records are eventually digitized [4:48:26] digitized to the extent possible [4:48:28]  possible. [4:48:28]  possible. [4:48:28] those that have to be stored in [4:48:29] long-term [4:48:30] long-term are in one locked and [4:48:31] secure [4:48:32] secure location. [4:48:32] that's what we are working toward [4:48:33] toward. [4:48:33] the ideal being the description [4:48:35] that's [4:48:35] that's in -- within the appendix [4:48:38] three [4:48:38] three is to say we need to get [4:48:40] this [4:48:40] this room ready to receive those [4:48:41] records [4:48:42] records somewhat timely, if there's [4:48:46] there's going to be renovations [4:48:47] in [4:48:47] in the basement or library, perhaps [4:48:49] perhaps it's a good time to consolidate [4:48:50] consolidate everything in one [4:48:51] room [4:48:51] room. [4:48:51] I was speaking with my staff at [4:48:52] the [4:48:53] the break, if you had to pick [4:48:57] one [4:48:57] one of these two, we would prefer [4:48:59] prefer 19 over 20. [4:49:00] ideally both, we not both at some [4:49:04] some point but if it's one or [4:49:07] the [4:49:07] the other, the records arm is [4:49:09] the [4:49:09] the preference. [4:49:09] >> I don't understand if it's [4:49:14] reserve [4:49:14] reserve funded, ryoal would require [4:49:15] require council? [4:49:16] you are talking about pulling [4:49:19] from [4:49:19] from reserves. [4:49:20] am I missing something? [4:49:20] why would you do that? [4:49:21] >> as I alluded to in the budget [4:49:27] overview [4:49:27] overview, reserves are important [4:49:28] for [4:49:28] for us to have. [4:49:29] some of these are smaller dollars [4:49:31] dollars but we have to think about [4:49:33] about long-term planning. [4:49:33] for example, if this comes from [4:49:36] capital [4:49:37] capital, we have the ems funding [4:49:38] model [4:49:39] model that is borrowing from our [4:49:40] capital [4:49:41] capital, not just ems capital [4:49:42] but [4:49:42] but for wing from capital so we [4:49:44] don't [4:49:44] don't take on that. [4:49:45] it's just an exercise of making [4:49:47] sure [4:49:47] sure we don't deplete reserves [4:49:49] as [4:49:49] as well and we have to be smart [4:49:51] about [4:49:51] about how much reserves we use [4:49:52] in [4:49:52] in the year so when we really [4:49:54] needed [4:49:54] needed or for one-time things [4:49:55] -- if [4:49:55] if the province decides to kick [4:49:57] in [4:49:57] in money for something, we have [4:49:58] to [4:49:58] to have our share as well. [4:50:00] just thinking long term not depleting [4:50:02] depleting reserves for the future [4:50:03] future. [4:50:03] >> anyone else? [4:50:06] councilor mcnamara. [4:50:08] >> getting back to the standard [4:50:21] and [4:50:22] and poor -- getting the rating [4:50:23] , I [4:50:24] I know we don't borrow a lot of [4:50:25] money [4:50:26] money but if we were to borrow [4:50:27] money [4:50:27] money, is it also utilized to [4:50:30] be able [4:50:31] able to get favoured interest [4:50:32] rates [4:50:32] rates on loans? [4:50:32] >> in my exercise that I took [4:50:39] earlier [4:50:39] earlier this year to prepare the [4:50:40] council [4:50:40] council for what I have understood [4:50:41] understood from infrastructure [4:50:43] ontario [4:50:44] ontario, which is typically where [4:50:45] where municipalities borrow from [4:50:46]  from, [4:50:46] from, it does not factor into [4:50:48] the [4:50:48] the rate, which is why it was [4:50:50] up for [4:50:50] for debate, the cost-benefit analysis [4:50:51] analysis. [4:50:51] but it does really help with vendors [4:50:54] vendors. [4:50:54] know when every screens us or [4:50:56] anything [4:50:56] anything like that, they understand [4:50:57] understand we have a aaa rating [4:50:58] so [4:50:58] so it simpler from an administrative [4:51:00] administrative position. [4:51:00] [4:51:00] [4:51:00] [4:51:00] >> so realistically, it wouldn't [4:51:05] affect [4:51:05] affect us if we have to borrow [4:51:07] money [4:51:07] money through infrastructure ontario [4:51:09] ontario for major projects? [4:51:10] >> in february, when I checked [4:51:14] , it [4:51:14] it did not have an effect. [4:51:15] >> okay then that is my decision [4:51:18]  decision. [4:51:18]  decision. [4:51:18] I certainly wouldn't want to bring [4:51:20] bring it back. [4:51:21] but also, as councilor prue and [4:51:26] certainly [4:51:26] certainly councilor waldstedt, [4:51:28] I do [4:51:29] do support what they are saying [4:51:31] as [4:51:31] as well as I think it's a matter [4:51:33] of [4:51:33] of principle moving forward and [4:51:34] again [4:51:34] again the 2.5% is on the salaries [4:51:37] salaries, I would say -- I would [4:51:39] support [4:51:39] support what councilor waldstedt [4:51:42] has [4:51:43] has brought forward. [4:51:43] >> thank you. [4:51:46] councilor waldstedt. [4:51:47] >> thank you. [4:51:47] I'm just wondering how many silence [4:51:52] silence people are in opposition [4:51:53] to [4:51:53] to the wage increase? [4:51:54] what procedure -- is there a motion [4:51:57] motion on the floor now? [4:51:58] >> not yet. [4:51:58] >> because I know councilor bondy [4:52:04] bondy mentioned she had a motion [4:52:05] but [4:52:05] but I would make a motion that [4:52:07] we [4:52:07] we would deal with the wage salaries [4:52:09] salaries and indemnity's increase [4:52:10] increase for council separately [4:52:11] . [4:52:11] if that is proper. [4:52:12] >> we will do it the weight we [4:52:17] need [4:52:18] need to do it. [4:52:19] thank you for that's. [4:52:19] we will look to you for -- as [4:52:25] a mover [4:52:25] mover. [4:52:25] anyone else? [4:52:25] in regards to this report? [4:52:27] okay. [4:52:27] seeing none, I will look to madame [4:52:34] madame clerk. [4:52:34] we will just wait for the clerk [4:52:43]  clerk's [4:52:43] clerk's department to list the [4:52:47] motion [4:52:47] motion. [4:52:47] >> thank you tag team. [4:52:55] thank you, team. [4:53:01] [4:53:15] [4:53:15] [4:53:15] >> the motion from councilor [4:54:14] waldstedt [4:54:14] waldstedt is in the revised screen [4:54:17] screen. [4:54:17] >> I will read the motion from [4:54:25] councilor [4:54:25] councilor waldstedt, just to make [4:54:26] make sure you are good with the [4:54:27] boarding [4:54:28] boarding. [4:54:28] that is that essex county council [4:54:30] council reduce proposed line item [4:54:31] item 105-60-1101 of the general [4:54:37]  general government [4:54:37] general government council services [4:54:37] services budget to the 2025 level [4:54:38] level of $518,100. [4:54:40] that is moved by councilor waldstedt [4:54:49] waldstedt. [4:54:49] >> that takes care of my concern [4:54:53] and [4:54:53] and others that I've heard from [4:54:55] . [4:54:55] >> looking for a seconder to the [4:54:58] motion [4:54:58] motion. [4:54:58] that is moved by councilor mcnamara [4:55:03] mcnamara. [4:55:03] question, councilor bondy? [4:55:03] 3 yes, thank you. [4:55:06] it's an election year. [4:55:08] we all know it. [4:55:09] that's why we are talking about [4:55:10] this [4:55:11] this right now. [4:55:11] what does this mean going forward [4:55:14] forward? [4:55:14] are we four years behind again [4:55:16] ? [4:55:16] what happened was we reviewed [4:55:21] our [4:55:21] our wages and we were supposed [4:55:23] to [4:55:23] to stay in line with our non nonunion [4:55:26] nonunion comparators. [4:55:26] if we don't support this, does [4:55:28] this [4:55:29] this mean we are not supporting [4:55:30] it [4:55:30] it for the four years? [4:55:31] because then we are going to get [4:55:34] back [4:55:35] back to where we have been. [4:55:36] so I just want to understand, [4:55:39] we know [4:55:39] know it's an election year. [4:55:41] everyone's got to do their election [4:55:43] election things. [4:55:43] but what does this mean going [4:55:45] forward [4:55:45] forward? [4:55:45] I want to know what this means [4:55:51] for [4:55:52] for the new term of council. [4:55:53] are they behind or did they come [4:55:54] back [4:55:55] back in? [4:55:55] do they stay a cycle out? [4:55:56] >> I do remember the conversation [4:56:01] conversation at the time and I [4:56:02] believe [4:56:03] believe we have it in a policy [4:56:04] on [4:56:04] on exactly how often we would [4:56:08] do the [4:56:08] the market salary review for council [4:56:09] council. [4:56:09] I believe it was every term of [4:56:11] council [4:56:12] council. [4:56:12] anyone please correct me if I'm [4:56:13] wrong [4:56:13] wrong. [4:56:13] so that would still occur because [4:56:16] because that was approved already [4:56:17] already, that every term of council [4:56:18] council we would do that review [4:56:20] again [4:56:20] again. [4:56:20] potentially, yes, like any other [4:56:23] salary [4:56:24] salary, if we don't do it on an [4:56:26] annual [4:56:27] annual basis, it may be a bigger [4:56:28] jump [4:56:28] jump all at once but that is already [4:56:30] already factored in that we would [4:56:32] would have that review every term [4:56:33] term of council. [4:56:33] >> any other questions in regards [4:56:38] regards to the motion? [4:56:39] I will ask you to vote electronically [4:56:42] electronically. [4:56:42] we are pausing. [4:56:45] councilor waldstedt? [4:57:00] >> in order to make sure we have [4:57:08] the [4:57:09] the correct dollar figure in there [4:57:10] there, we're going to remove the [4:57:11] dollar [4:57:12] dollar figure and reworded to [4:57:13] say [4:57:13] say maintain 2025 pay level? [4:57:14] >> that was the intent. [4:57:22] test [4:57:38] [4:57:38] [4:57:38] [4:57:38] [4:57:38] [4:57:38] [4:57:38] >> again, I will read the revised [4:58:02] revised. [4:58:02] the essex county council reduce [4:58:03] the [4:58:03] the proposed line item 105-60-1101 [4:58:07] 105-60-1101 of the general government [4:58:09] government council services budget [4:58:10] budget to maintain the 2025 level [4:58:12] level. [4:58:12] councilor waldstedt, just wanting [4:58:17] wanting a nod. [4:58:18] yes. [4:58:18] and seconder was councilor mcnamara [4:58:20] mcnamara. [4:58:20] and you are good. [4:58:22] we will ask you to vote electronically [4:58:24] electronically for that motion [4:58:24] . [4:58:24] and that carries. [4:58:43] secondary to that, there is a [4:58:52] recommendation [4:58:52] recommendation that the presentation [4:58:52] presentation for the proposed [4:58:54] 2026 [4:58:54] 2026 general government budget [4:58:54] be [4:58:55] be received can further that the [4:58:58] 2026 [4:58:59] 2026 budget estimates for general [4:59:00] general government to be received [4:59:01] received or received and approved [4:59:02] approved as amended. [4:59:02] looking for your wishes. [4:59:04] councilor verbeke. [4:59:09] >> I would like to move, receive [4:59:11] and [4:59:11] and approve. [4:59:11] >> as amended? [4:59:12] that is moved by councilor verbeke [4:59:17] verbeke. [4:59:17] looking for seconder. [4:59:18] councilor gibb. [4:59:18] comments or questions? [4:59:20] we will ask you to vote electronically [4:59:24] electronically, please. [4:59:24] that is carried. [4:59:42] next we have external commitments [4:59:49] commitments. [4:59:49] back to you again, melissa. [4:59:51] >> this final sections covers [4:59:55] the [4:59:55] the county's external commitments [4:59:56] commitments, both legislative [4:59:57] and [4:59:57] and discretionary, and how these [4:59:58] investments [4:59:58] investments support our residents [5:00:00] residents and regional partners [5:00:01] . [5:00:01] our goal is to manage these obligations [5:00:03] obligations responsibly, he partnership [5:00:04] partnership strong and make sure [5:00:05] we're [5:00:05] we're reading community needs [5:00:07] effectively [5:00:07] effectively. [5:00:07] many of the 2026 figures from [5:00:10] the [5:00:10] the city of windsor, who administer [5:00:12] administer some of these programs [5:00:13] programs. [5:00:13] while the city won't finalize [5:00:15] its [5:00:15] its budget until late january, [5:00:16] we've [5:00:16] we've used the most current information [5:00:18] information to guide projections [5:00:19]  projections. [5:00:19]  projections. [5:00:19] legislative commitments covers [5:00:22] services [5:00:23] services we are required to fund [5:00:24]  fund, [5:00:24] fund, public health, property [5:00:25] assessment [5:00:25] assessment, social services and [5:00:27] social [5:00:27] social housing. [5:00:28] health unit costs are expected [5:00:30] to [5:00:30] to rise just over 1% for 2026 [5:00:33] and [5:00:33] and impact property assessment [5:00:34] cost [5:00:34] cost are anticipated to increase [5:00:35] by [5:00:36] by 3.7%. [5:00:36] social services and social housing [5:00:39] housing operations are higher [5:00:41] due [5:00:41] due to contractual wage increases [5:00:42] increases for city staff and changes [5:00:43] changes to the child care administrative [5:00:44] administrative funding formula [5:00:45] . [5:00:45] windsor-essex community housing [5:00:48] corporation [5:00:48] corporation has also requested [5:00:49] additional [5:00:49] additional operating funds so [5:00:51] this [5:00:51] this budgetthis includes budget includes [5:00:52] ourare anticipated [5:00:52] anticipated anticipated [5:00:52] anticipated share with further adjustments dependency approvals [5:00:53] adjustments dependency approvals [5:00:53] share with further adjustments [5:00:53] adjustments dependent on cit approvals. [5:00:54] adjustments dependent on cit approvals. [5:00:54] approval [5:00:54] approval. [5:00:54] so for the social housing capital renewal, this [5:00:58] capital renewal, this program [5:01:02] is administered [5:01:02] administered by the windsor-essex [5:01:03] windsor-essex community housing corporation [5:01:04] corporation, it's an important [5:01:04] initiative that [5:01:04] initiative that utilizes county funding [5:01:07] funding to improve, modernize [5:01:08] and maintain social housing Properties [5:01:08] and maintain social housing Properties [5:01:08] properties throughout essex windsor [5:01:10] windsor. This problem [5:01:11] this problem addresses energy efficiency [5:01:14] efficiency and upgrade safety [5:01:15] and [5:01:15] and excessive building features [5:01:16] ensuring [5:01:16] ensuring that residents live in safe, healthy and [5:01:17] safe, healthy and sustainable environments [5:01:17] environments so this program supports a ten-year [5:01:20] supports a ten-year social housing plan [5:01:20] housing plan. [5:01:20] while the 2025 funding requests were [5:01:24] were lower, the significant projects are scheduled [5:01:28] projects are scheduled from 2026 to [5:01:28] to 2028 which rely heavily on [5:01:30] reserves [5:01:30] reserves. [5:01:30] to prepare, we are continuing [5:01:34] to contribute an additional [5:01:34] contribute an additional 200,000 to the social [5:01:36] to the social housing capital reserve [5:01:37] reserve annually to build capacity in [5:01:38] capacity in that program. [5:01:40] when we look at projective reserve [5:01:44] reserve balances, social housing [5:01:45] capital reserve [5:01:45] capital reserve is part of the [5:01:45] overall capital reserve [5:01:45] overall capital reserve balance and [5:01:46] and are expected reserve for this [5:01:50] this [5:01:50] this [5:01:50] this [5:01:50] one is 7.8 million at the end [5:01:51] end of 2025 with unanticipated [5:01:54] spend [5:01:54] spend of 5.7 million in 2026. [5:01:56] and 7.7 million in 2027. [5:01:59] so doing the math, this reserve [5:02:03] will be deleted of all the [5:02:03] will be deleted of all the projects move [5:02:03] projects move forward however, we [5:02:04] we do have a plan to replenish [5:02:07] in [5:02:07] in years where costs are not expected to be [5:02:08] expected to be so high. [5:02:08] these are discretionary obligations which include Investments [5:02:13] these are discretionary obligations which include Investments [5:02:13] investments or -- windsor-essex [5:02:15] so funding [5:02:17] so funding is remaining at the same level as previous [5:02:18] same level as previous years, same with [5:02:21] same with tourism windsor-essex [5:02:21] . [5:02:21] there is no increase in funding [5:02:24] . The community safety and [5:02:24] the community safety and well-being [5:02:24] well-being plan, a slight increase and [5:02:27] increase and that's for the contractual wage increases [5:02:29] contractual wage increases for the city [5:02:29] the city staff that oversee this [5:02:31] program [5:02:32] program. There's also the [5:02:33] there's also the tax appeals for lower [5:02:34] lower tiers. [5:02:35] these funds to support tax appeals services for [5:02:38] appeals services for local means [5:02:38] apologies [5:02:39] apologies and they're critical to [5:02:41] to ensure fair taxation so there's an increase in this [5:02:42] there's an increase in this line [5:02:44] as last year [5:02:45] as last year's budget decreased it [5:02:46] it by 90,000 but we are trending [5:02:47] if it can be [5:02:47] if it can be higher that -- found [5:02:51] found out this year so we want to [5:02:52] to bring a backup the necessary [5:02:52] levels [5:02:52] levels. [5:02:52] and then this year's hospital contribution [5:02:55] contribution sees an increase [5:02:58] of 720,000 of levy [5:02:58] 720,000 of levy dollars bringing [5:03:01] the total annual [5:03:01] the total annual funding to 7.76 million. [5:03:03] the total annual funding to 7.76 million. [5:03:03] we are in ongoing discussions [5:03:06] with the [5:03:06] with the hospital regarding timing [5:03:08] timing of payment, however, nothing has been confirmed to [5:03:08] nothing has been confirmed to [5:03:08] date [5:03:08] date. [5:03:08] should council wish to reduce additional funding [5:03:12] additional funding emotion would be [5:03:12] be required as it is built into the proposed budget [5:03:15] the proposed budget. [5:03:15] and lastly we have the erie shores [5:03:18] shores health care so there -- [5:03:21] this [5:03:21] this is a long term commitment [5:03:22] with [5:03:22] with $200,000 allocated and this [5:03:25] is [5:03:25] is year three of a 10-year commitment [5:03:25] commitment. [5:03:25] without I'm happy to take any [5:03:30] questions [5:03:30] questions. >> thank you melissa [5:03:32] >> thank you melissa. [5:03:32] let's start with you councillor mcnamara [5:03:34] mcnamara. >> I [5:03:38] >> I would propose that on the [5:03:39] hospital allocation [5:03:40] hospital allocation, the extra [5:03:40] 720,000 this [5:03:40] 720,000 this year be deferred to help [5:03:45] help offset some of the costs on the [5:03:45] the augment that I've talked about with ens [5:03:48] about with ens and others so I would propose that [5:03:52] would propose that at the proper [5:03:52] time [5:03:53] time as a motion. >> so you're talking that it Remain [5:04:00] time as a motion. >> so you're talking that it Remain [5:04:00] remain at the 2025 budget number of [5:04:03] of 7,040,000? [5:04:06] >> that's correct your guy maintain [5:04:10] maintain 7,000,040 in the base moving [5:04:11] moving forward and then 720,000, the additional for [5:04:16] the additional for 2026b deferred [5:04:19] deferred their and move in to allocate [5:04:23] allocate some of the costs for the enhancements [5:04:27] the enhancements in the various [5:04:28] positions. >> okay thank you [5:04:30] positions. >> okay thank you [5:04:30] >> okay thank you. [5:04:30] any other comments and questions [5:04:34]  questions? [5:04:34]  questions? [5:04:34] councillor akpata. >> I [5:04:37] >> I like seeing invest windsor-essex [5:04:40] windsor-essex. I'm glad they [5:04:41] I'm glad they came. I was [5:04:41] I was one of the people who voted [5:04:42] voted to change their funding [5:04:44] allocation and I [5:04:44] allocation and I hope through you and the [5:04:48] you and the office of the commitments [5:04:48] commitments they made to us hold true [5:04:49] true because they did a great job in pivoting [5:04:52] job in pivoting and changing us [5:04:53] those bringing us what we [5:04:54] those bringing us what we need. I want to [5:04:54] I want to make sure as we go for [5:04:55] word [5:04:57] word we don't have to go through that cycle again [5:04:57] that cycle again so. [5:05:01] [inaudible] [5:05:01] >> council will be able to hold their [5:05:05] their feet to the fire because [5:05:07] they promise they [5:05:08] they promise they would be here [5:05:08] four times a [5:05:08] four times a year and we will certainly [5:05:11] certainly let them know if they were [5:05:11] were overdue because I do think that [5:05:15] that was a scare for them last year to [5:05:15] year to think that they would have [5:05:18] have to operate at 15% less than what they had [5:05:20] what they had expected and so I [5:05:21] think I'm of the [5:05:24] think I'm of the opinion that [5:05:26] councils had a [5:05:26] councils had a very strong message [5:05:28] message and also with gordon moore [5:05:32] moore at the helm, he understands how [5:05:32] understands how counsel operates and [5:05:36] and knows that people of our and I [5:05:36] I believe they will hold true [5:05:38] but [5:05:38] but myself and the cao will make sure that [5:05:40] sure that if there seems to be a [5:05:42] slip [5:05:44] slip, we will remind them. [5:05:45] councillor prue, was your hand up [5:05:51] up? [5:05:51] >> no I didn't know whether the motion [5:05:54] motion was made I was just going [5:05:55] to [5:05:55] to second it. >> I wanted to have [5:05:58] >> I wanted to have some conversations and I [5:05:58] conversations and I will come back [5:05:58] back to you councillor mcnamara [5:06:01] for that. [5:06:01] for that. [5:06:01] anyone else to comment on the external commitments [5:06:04] external commitments? [5:06:04] in that case, then I'm coming [5:06:10] back [5:06:10] back to you councillor mcnamara, I [5:06:12] I believe we have the wording just about [5:06:20] just about ready. [5:06:21] just bear with us for a few moments [5:06:25] moments. [5:06:25] so the motion is that the essex [5:07:25]  essex county [5:07:27] essex county budget be adjusted [5:07:28] to [5:07:30] to reflect the 2025 contribution to the [5:07:33] to the new windsor-essex hospital system [5:07:33] hospital system reserve to be the sum of [5:07:36] the sum of 7,040,000. That's moved [5:07:38] that's moved by councillor mcnamara and seconded [5:07:42] mcnamara and seconded by councillor [5:07:42] councillor prue. [5:07:43] comments or questions in regards to that [5:07:46] to that motion? [5:07:46] councillor gibb. >> I'm looking [5:07:56] >> I'm looking at my screen and it says [5:07:56] it says 6 million. That would explain [5:08:00] that would explain it. [5:08:00] we cut that a few beats ago. [5:08:07] no comments or questions? [5:08:17] I'll ask you to vote electronically [5:08:18] electronically, please. [5:08:19] and that's carried. [5:08:37] there's a recommendation also to the presentation [5:08:43] the presentation for the 2026 propose external commitments [5:08:44] propose external commitments budget be [5:08:44] budget be received and that the [5:08:48] 2026 budget estimates for External commitments [5:08:49] 2026 budget estimates for External commitments [5:08:49] external commitments be received [5:08:51] or received [5:08:52] or received and approved as amended. Looking [5:08:53] or received and approved as amended. Looking [5:08:53] looking for a mover. [5:08:53] moved by councillor prue to receive [5:08:58] receive and approve. [5:08:59] councillor prue, seconded deputy [5:09:05] warden [5:09:06] warden, any discussion? [5:09:07] councillor bailey. >> [5:09:13] >> thank you read through you. Just a [5:09:13] just a question related to the [5:09:18] capital renewals [5:09:19] capital renewals renewal that was roughly [5:09:20] was roughly 2 million and went to [5:09:23] to 5.7, recognizing the increase that's [5:09:26] that's three-point for, I think [5:09:28] it's related [5:09:30] it's related to the capital renewal [5:09:32] renewal and construction that [5:09:34] will be [5:09:34] will be needed with windsor-essex community [5:09:35] windsor-essex community housing corporation but can [5:09:35] corporation but can you confirm [5:09:35] ? [5:09:35] >> yes. That's correct it's their 10-year [5:09:39] their 10-year capital plan that [5:09:40] it's [5:09:41] it's just certain years are higher than other [5:09:41] higher than other. >> you so much [5:09:42] >> you so much. [5:09:42] >> if there are no further questions [5:09:47] questions I will ask you to vote electronically [5:09:48] electronically, please. [5:09:49] and that's carried. [5:10:24] so that concludes the departmental [5:10:33] departmental budget presentations pure we [5:10:34] presentations pure we are now at the [5:10:34] the point where we approve, amend [5:10:40] amend, what does it council wishes [5:10:41] wishes to dupe your guy will start [5:10:42] start with councillor. >> I [5:10:46] >> I expect this to be a bit lengthy and [5:10:47] lengthy and I will start with [5:10:50] wanting to [5:10:51] wanting to add number 19 which is the [5:10:51] is the renovation of the storage [5:10:51] room [5:10:53] room. During the [5:10:55] during the basement already with [5:10:55] a [5:10:56] a library. [5:10:56] I don't understand why we wouldn't [5:10:57] wouldn't just add this room, it's reserved [5:10:57] it's reserved funded, not a lot [5:10:59] of money [5:11:01] of money so that's a motion if needed. I [5:11:04] of money so that's a motion if needed. I [5:11:04] I don't know how you want to do this [5:11:05] this one at a time. >> I [5:11:06] . >> I [5:11:11] >> I think it will be less confusing for us and [5:11:11] confusing for us and finance. [5:11:13] I'm going to rely heavily on the clerk forwarding [5:11:15] clerk forwarding et cetera so if you don't [5:11:18] you don't mind bearing with us [5:11:20] will work together that [5:11:22] will work together that we will get it [5:11:23] get it into the phrasing that [5:11:25] you would like and [5:11:25] you would like and anyone else who comes [5:11:27] who comes forward. >> so everyone is [5:11:34] >> so everyone is in the same comfort [5:11:34] comfort level if you have an item [5:11:38] item that you wish to move from that [5:11:38] that list that was previously [5:11:43] spoken about, [5:11:43] spoken about, appendix three, we're tracking [5:11:43] we're tracking things by the line [5:11:45] line number and it would be helpful [5:11:47] helpful for us to look at that number when you move [5:11:48] number when you move the item. [5:11:48] [5:11:48] base will be listed under 1210 if [5:12:20] if you're following on your agenda [5:12:20] agenda. [5:12:20] >> so the first motion, councillor [5:12:26] councillor de young is that the room [5:12:28] room g28 safety and efficiency [5:12:28] project [5:12:29] project added to the 2026 general [5:12:31] general government corporate management [5:12:32] management budget as outlined on line [5:12:34] line 19 of the appendix three of the [5:12:38] the treasurer's report. [5:12:38] I will be looking for nods. [5:12:51] they need a second or cocktails want to [5:12:53] want to make sure that melissa gets what we [5:12:56] gets what we need. [5:12:57] looking for a second or, in regards to that [5:13:00] regards to that motion, deputy [5:13:02] warden [5:13:03] warden, melissa? [5:13:06] you're good? [5:13:07] are you clear on that? [5:13:07] okay. [5:13:07] any questions from council  council members in regards to [5:13:11] council members in regards to [5:13:11] that motion [5:13:11] that motion? [5:13:11] no clarification needed. Okay. [5:13:16] no clarification needed. Okay. [5:13:16] then will ask you. And that's carried [5:13:53] and that's carried. [5:13:53] next, councillor meloche. >> [5:14:01] >> one question before I make a [5:14:06] motion, among [5:14:06] motion, among our extra items, number [5:14:06] number 18 and 23, they're both speaking [5:14:09] speaking to the generator and I'm just wondering [5:14:11] I'm just wondering why their separated issues when [5:14:14] separated issues when they're both to deal [5:14:15] both to deal with the generator in [5:14:19] in the grid iso agreement. [5:14:22] >> is that something you can speak to [5:14:29] speak to? [5:14:29] >> I can't pull up that appendix quickly [5:14:37] quickly. [5:14:37] and I would maybe like melissa [5:14:42] to [5:14:43] to just confirm, is there an item in [5:14:43] item in the additional items for [5:14:45] a [5:14:46] a generator study and is there also one for [5:14:47] also one for humidity study? [5:14:47] those of the two that I had. >> to me [5:14:56] >> to me, it looks like the same sort [5:15:00] sort of study I just want to figure out [5:15:01] figure out why there's two different line items for it [5:15:02] different line items for it. If it couldn't [5:15:02] if it couldn't be one study completed [5:15:05] completed, that may cost less [5:15:08] than dude -- during two separate [5:15:08] than dude -- during two separate [5:15:08] studies [5:15:08] studies. [5:15:08] >> they are two separate studies but [5:15:27] but whenever we put together an rfp, [5:15:27] rfp, if they're similar enough [5:15:29] in [5:15:30] in scope and we can find someone to [5:15:31] to do that same work, that's definitely [5:15:34] definitely a possibility so I [5:15:36] guess at this point, [5:15:36] guess at this point, if council chooses to [5:15:36] chooses to bring both of them in [5:15:36]  in, [5:15:36] in, obviously that would be our budget but if [5:15:40] budget but if we come in under budget [5:15:40] budget, that's fine too. [5:15:41] >> thank you I would like to make a motion [5:15:46] make a motion that we move forward with those [5:15:47] forward with those two items from [5:15:47] from the appendix three, along with [5:15:52] with the other item 24 so those are the three other [5:15:58] are the three other remaining [5:16:00] items [5:16:00] items and those are reserved funded [5:16:01] funded items in the additional [5:16:01] . [5:16:01] those are the three I put forward. [5:16:09] those are the three I put forward. [5:16:09] that's 18, 23, and 24. [5:16:12] those are all reserved funded. [5:16:18] [5:16:18] >> if you don't mind clerk's office [5:16:30] office would like to do them separately [5:16:31] separately so we will vote on [5:16:31] each one separately [5:16:31] each one separately. [5:16:31] >> no problem I just was not sure because [5:16:36] sure because 18 and 23 are similar I wasn't [5:16:37] similar I wasn't share if we should put them [5:16:37] should put them together or not because if we [5:16:38] because if we could rf he had them it would make [5:16:41] them it would make sense that if we can [5:16:41] we can do them soberly. [5:16:41] >> I think it will do better if we [5:16:44] we do it soberly. [5:16:45] that's their expert opinion so we [5:16:45] we will go with that. [5:16:45] did you have a question councillor prue [5:16:49] councillor prue? [5:16:49] >> I'm trying to understand this [5:16:51]  this. [5:16:51]  this. [5:16:51] right now, they're funded but [5:16:54] they're funded from the [5:16:54] they're funded from the reserve [5:16:55] and the motion is [5:16:56] and the motion is to fund them [5:16:58] from general [5:16:58] from general tax revenue. [5:17:00] of the is to what? [5:17:01] okay so they're not on the budget [5:17:08] budget, you just wanted back in the [5:17:10] the reserve? Okay now I understand [5:17:10] okay now I understand. All right [5:17:10] all right. [5:17:10] >> but they were on that wish list [5:17:13] list. >> okay [5:17:13] >> okay. >> [5:17:18] >> okay. [5:17:18] I need a second for the motion of the [5:17:27] of the county a administration [5:17:28] building [5:17:29] building generator added to the [5:17:31] 2026 interest [5:17:32] 2026 interest doctrine planning services budget [5:17:33] services budget as outlined on line [5:17:33] line 18 and the appendix treasurer's [5:17:35] treasurer's report. [5:17:35] moved by councillor meloche excellent [5:17:42] excellent -- seconded by councillor deyong, question [5:17:44] councillor deyong, question should go [5:17:44] should go ahead. >> to [5:17:46] >> to do a study in support of -- I didn't quite [5:17:49] -- I didn't quite pick up from [5:17:51] councillor [5:17:51] councillor prue this usually is a one-time fund, right? [5:17:55] councillor prue this usually is a one-time fund, right? [5:17:55] so would it be taken from the re restabilization [5:18:00] restabilization fund or reserves [5:18:03]  reserves. [5:18:03]  reserves. [5:18:03] I hate to see a study go on a [5:18:08] base [5:18:08] base. >> [5:18:10] >> melissa? [5:18:10] >> entire list included some reserve [5:18:14] reserve items as well as some lovely funded items [5:18:17] lovely funded items so that the three that [5:18:17] three that are mentioned right [5:18:19] now and [5:18:19] now and we will do them in separate motions, [5:18:20] separate motions, they're all levy [5:18:20] levy funded and it will be one-time dollars [5:18:23] one-time dollars and restabilization [5:18:24] restabilization. [5:18:24] >> the reserve funded. >> yes [5:18:28] >> yes. [booing] [5:18:28] >> yes. [booing] [5:18:28] you said levy but that's okay. >> sorry. >> [5:18:30] you said levy but that's okay. >> sorry. >> [5:18:30] >> reserve funded. >> reserved [5:18:31] >> reserved because then I would be a [5:18:34] be a post -- this makes sense [5:18:38] one time funding to [5:18:38] one time funding to do this study [5:18:38] study and then move forward after the fact [5:18:42] after the fact. [5:18:42] okay. [5:18:42] anyone else? [5:18:48] really have conversation will [5:18:55] he have a conversation with [5:18:55] have a conversation with mike [5:18:55] so without [5:18:55] without wheat I would prefer if we [5:19:00] we have conversation, we stick [5:19:02] to the mic. [5:19:02] to the mic. [5:19:02] please go ahead. [5:19:02] so the rest of us know what's [5:19:05] going on [5:19:05] going on. >> thank you and I [5:19:05] >> thank you and I was just confirming [5:19:06] confirming that indeed these three items [5:19:09] three items are coming from the [5:19:09] reserve, you're on [5:19:09] reserve, you're on the wish list and [5:19:10] and then we will vote to put them [5:19:12] them back in but funded for reserve [5:19:15] reserve. >> for council awareness, these [5:19:22] >> for council awareness, these [5:19:22] studies will generate [5:19:22] studies will generate items that potentially [5:19:23] potentially would be required [5:19:27] in the future [5:19:27] the future which would require other [5:19:27] other dollars but for now, the [5:19:30] studies themselves [5:19:31] studies themselves would be reserved [5:19:31] reserved and funded yes. [5:19:31] >> perfect then thank you for [5:19:35] that. [5:19:35] that. [5:19:35] I think it clarified for everyone. [5:19:35] I think it clarified for everyone. [5:19:35] >> with that, I will ask you to vote electronically [5:19:39] vote electronically, please. [5:19:40] >> a question before, there's no no mention [5:20:02] no mention here about the reserves [5:20:03] reserves. Should it be [5:20:04] should it be indicated in the [5:20:06] motion [5:20:06] motion? [5:20:06] >> it's in the report. [5:20:09] if you look on page 37 in the [5:20:11] report, it lists [5:20:11] report, it lists where those projects [5:20:13] projects are being funded from [5:20:15] . >> okay [5:20:16] >> okay so just the confusing part [5:20:18] part is there in the report but it's [5:20:19] it's not in the actual motion. [5:20:23] >> it says as outlined [5:20:25] >> it says as outlined, if you want [5:20:25] want to pull up that appendix three, if you've [5:20:29] three, if you've got the printed [5:20:29] version [5:20:31] version, so it says as outlined [5:20:33] in the [5:20:33] in the report. [5:20:34] and that's carried, thank you. [5:20:39] [5:20:39] next, anybody else? [5:20:45] so this is now, we're waiting for [5:21:08] for that wording. [5:21:10] >> the motion is that how did administration [5:21:48] administration building summer humidity investigation [5:21:48] humidity investigation be added to [5:21:48] to the 2026 infrastructure and planning services [5:21:51] planning services budget as outlined [5:21:54] outlined on line 23 of the appendix [5:21:56] appendix three of the treasurer treasurer's report [5:21:56] treasurer's report. [5:21:56] that was moved by councillor meloche and seconded [5:22:02] meloche and seconded by councillor deyong. So we're [5:22:02] meloche and seconded by councillor deyong. So we're [5:22:02] so we're now looking into that electronically [5:22:05] electronically. [5:22:05] and that's carried. [5:22:41] one last motion. [5:23:01] and this motion is that the county administration [5:23:14] county administration building west [5:23:15] west to south sidewalk be added to [5:23:15] to 2026 infrastructure and planning services budget [5:23:20] planning services budget as outlined on line [5:23:21] outlined on line 24 of the appendix [5:23:21] appendix three of the treasurer [5:23:22]  treasurer's [5:23:22] treasurer's report, moved by councillor meloche and seconded [5:23:27] councillor meloche and seconded [5:23:27] by councillor deyong [5:23:30] by councillor deyong. [5:23:30] looking for voting. And that's carried [5:24:01] and that's carried. [5:24:01] councillor gibb. >> thank you madame [5:24:11] >> thank you madame morden. I'd [5:24:11] I'd like to make a motion that we [5:24:12] we include item number one on the business [5:24:16] the business case requests for the committee [5:24:20] the committee programs coordinator [5:24:20] coordinator. [5:24:20] if I can get a secondary, I'd like to speak to [5:24:24] like to speak to it. [5:24:24] >> community programs coordinator [5:24:32] coordinator for ens. I'll wait till [5:24:37] I'll wait till we get -- oh it's already [5:24:40] already. [5:24:40] were 79 steps ahead of me. [5:24:43] steps ahead of me. [5:24:46] their ego. [5:24:48] so the motion is that the community [5:24:51] community programs coordinator [5:24:51] be added to [5:24:51] be added to the 2026 essex windsor ens [5:24:53] windsor ens budget as outlined [5:24:56] on [5:24:57] on line one of the appendix three of the [5:24:58] three of the treasurer's report [5:24:59] and [5:25:01] and that's moved by councillor gibb and seconded [5:25:02] gibb and seconded by councillor meloche [5:25:02] meloche. [5:25:02] councillor gibb wanted to speak to [5:25:21] to that. I apologize. >> [5:25:21] to that. I apologize. >> [5:25:21] >> I feel that we've done so much [5:25:24] much work on the public access to for belated [5:25:27] to for belated program that to [5:25:30] see it full by the [5:25:31] see it full by the wayside would really be a [5:25:31] really be a shame. I [5:25:32] I like the idea of public cpr [5:25:37] training and building community Resilience [5:25:37] training and building community Resilience [5:25:37] resilience I think is important, [5:25:40] especially [5:25:40] especially when our ems system is [5:25:42] is stretched to have civilians who can step [5:25:45] who can step in and take care of people [5:25:48] people who needed, isn't readily [5:25:50] important [5:25:52] important. [5:25:52] one of the other things that she's [5:25:54] she's mentioned as it reduces and prevents [5:25:55] and prevents 911 calls when people know [5:25:57] people know how to use these machines [5:25:59] machines and know how to keep -- [5:26:01] take [5:26:01] take care of each other. [5:26:01] for something that's $121,000 but half of that [5:26:06] but half of that cost will be [5:26:08] recuperated from the [5:26:08] recuperated from the city and [5:26:10] in year [5:26:11] year two I believe, another half [5:26:13] of that cost is recuperated [5:26:13] of that cost is recuperated from the province [5:26:13] the province so for essentially [5:26:16] $30,000, I think this [5:26:16] $30,000, I think this is well [5:26:18] worth [5:26:18] worth investing in. [5:26:19] >> thank you, councillor deyong, comment [5:26:25] comment. >> a question [5:26:25] >> a question. [5:26:25] any existing ems program, there's someone who [5:26:30] there's someone who can do this training I'm guessing [5:26:31] training I'm guessing because I had [5:26:31] had done by ems at the community centre for [5:26:35] centre for my senior year volunteers [5:26:35] volunteers. [5:26:35] I'm just hearing comments that's adjusted if [5:26:39] adjusted if we don't find this [5:26:40] new program [5:26:40] new program, that will be available [5:26:41] available anymore, we won't have someone who can [5:26:42] someone who can come and teach [5:26:42] cpr or help people [5:26:43] cpr or help people learn that we current have [5:26:46] current have written out will is that [5:26:47] that. >> numbers of [5:26:50] >> numbers of counsel, that's correct we [5:26:51] correct we will not have a dedicate a [5:26:51] dedicate a lead as mentioned earlier it would be [5:26:54] earlier it would be peace nailed [5:26:54] so we [5:26:56] so we will do it we could but we will [5:26:57] will not have been. [inaudible] [5:27:00] will not have been. [inaudible] [5:27:00] >> so the person is dedicated [5:27:01] now as [5:27:01] now as being reassigned to a different area [5:27:03] different area or was never dedicated [5:27:06] dedicated then he just filled in in? [5:27:07] dedicated then he just filled in in? [5:27:07] I'm just trying to understand [5:27:07] because I thought [5:27:07] because I thought we had somebody in there [5:27:09] somebody in there who's doing [5:27:11] that [5:27:11] that. >> the individual [5:27:24] >> the individual doing it right now is [5:27:25] now is not permanently in the [5:27:27] role. It [5:27:27] role. It [5:27:27] it will be tough for me to get any [5:27:28] any deeper than that. [5:27:28] >> councillor bondy. >> [5:27:37] >> thank you madame morden. [5:27:37] this will be like that person will be [5:27:39] will be in the budget and going forward and then the [5:27:43] forward and then the province picks up on it [5:27:43] picks up on it. [5:27:43] thank you. [5:27:47] I will be supporting it I've seen a lot [5:27:51] seen a lot of gains in education [5:27:52]  education, I [5:27:52] education, I think it's vital. We were [5:27:53] we were just -- we adjusted our ed [5:27:55] ed yesterday I think at the cold [5:27:58] chester harbor and I [5:27:58] chester harbor and I see the value in [5:27:59] value in this. After this I'm [5:28:01] after this I'm wondering if we can [5:28:01] can get where we are with our levy before [5:28:05] levy before we keep going. I think I'm [5:28:06] I think I'm curious to see where we [5:28:06] we are. Please and [5:28:08] please and thank you. [5:28:08] >> we are just conferring on the wording [5:28:46] wording because the appendix refers to [5:28:48] refers to the full cost as our finance folks [5:28:51] finance folks have alluded to. [5:28:52] we just want to [5:28:52] we just want to make it abundantly [5:28:52] abundantly clear, the amount that [5:28:55] that we are adding back to the [5:28:56] budget [5:28:57] budget and it's 50% of that amount [5:28:58] amount. [5:28:58] you will bear with us a moment [5:29:01] to make that clarification and [5:29:02] to make that clarification and [5:29:02] motion [5:29:03] motion. [5:29:03] >> a motion is that the community programs coordinator [5:29:39] community programs coordinator [5:29:39] be added to [5:29:41] be added to the 2026 essex ems budget as outlined [5:29:45] budget as outlined on 11 of appendix [5:29:47] appendix three of the treasurer treasurer's [5:29:47] treasurer's report at 50% of the [5:29:50] indicated amount [5:29:50] indicated amount. [5:29:50] because of the sharing with partners [5:29:54] partners. [5:29:54] understood? Perfect [5:29:54] perfect. [5:29:54] I'm looking to melissa. [5:30:01] it's technical because of the [5:30:12] weighted assessment, right? [5:30:12] weighted assessment, right? [5:30:12] so I leave it up to the group, [5:30:14] I don't want [5:30:14] don't want to get that technical [5:30:15] but [5:30:16] but it's approximately so we'll change it [5:30:20] change it. >> we will change it [5:30:21] >> we will change it to weighted assessment [5:30:21] assessment so good. [5:30:25] I don't think that's being picky picky. I [5:30:25] I don't think that's being picky picky. I [5:30:25] I think that's being exact. [5:30:27] councillor akpata. >> to our finance person [5:30:34] >> to our finance person, if one of [5:30:35] of our partners the sides don't want to [5:30:36] want to find anything, then what happens [5:30:40] happens? [5:30:40] I'm just saying that my windsor star [5:30:44] star open I don't want to mention that [5:30:44] mention that place and we don't [5:30:47] want [5:30:47] want -- they don't seem to want to do [5:30:48] to do anything just wondering what this [5:30:49] what this position. >> because [5:30:54] >> because we provide the service [5:30:55] service, the county provides the service we get this [5:30:56] service we get this at that service [5:30:56] service level, similar to how the city gets [5:31:00] the city gets a social services [5:31:01] -- [5:31:02] -- so it's the same kind of scenario [5:31:05] scenario, whether the service levels are set [5:31:07] levels are set on us the cost of service [5:31:08] service level. >> thank you [5:31:13] >> thank you. >> you have the [5:31:13] >> you have the windsor star open and the [5:31:14] open and the budget meeting? Just asking. [5:31:16] open and the budget meeting? Just asking. [5:31:16] with that,. >> not intentionally [5:31:18] >> not intentionally. >> the reworded [5:31:20] >> the reworded motion of the [5:31:23] coordinator [5:31:23] coordinator be added to the 2026 essex windsor ems [5:31:24] essex windsor ems budget is out of line [5:31:27] of line -- as outlined on line one, the appendix [5:31:29] one, the appendix three of the treasurer [5:31:29] treasurer's report. [5:31:32] to be divided in accordance with the [5:31:33] the weighted assessment rely. [5:31:34] looking to my move around secondary [5:31:39] secondary so you asked, you're the [5:31:47] the second or councillor meloche [5:31:49] with that [5:31:50] with that will ask you to vote [5:31:50] electronically [5:31:50] electronically, please. [5:31:52] and that's carried. Any other adjustments [5:32:16] any other adjustments to the final [5:32:18] final -- deputy warden. >> I will try [5:32:23] >> I will try to get this motion motion. I [5:32:24] >> I will try to get this motion motion. I [5:32:24] I would like to add the additional hours [5:32:27] additional hours under ems to be added [5:32:27] added to the 26th budget for essex windsor [5:32:33] essex windsor ems as outlined [5:32:37] in the [5:32:37] the appendix three of the treasurer's [5:32:37] treasurer's report to be divided [5:32:41] in accordance with weighted Assessment [5:32:42] in accordance with weighted Assessment [5:32:42] assessment formula. [5:32:42] >> that's the additional training [5:32:46] training hours, right? [5:32:48] >> yes. [5:32:50] >> and that's number five on the -- we [5:32:54] -- we will just wait until the wording [5:32:56] wording gets -- so the motion [5:33:08] is that the additional [5:33:08] that the additional training hours be [5:33:08] hours be added to the 2026 essex [5:33:11] the ms budget as [5:33:11] the ms budget as outlined on line [5:33:14] line five, the appendix three of the treasurer's report [5:33:15] the treasurer's report to be divided [5:33:17] divided in accordance with the [5:33:17] weighted assessment [5:33:17] weighted assessment formula that's moved [5:33:19] that's moved by deputy warden and seconded [5:33:22] and seconded by councillor bondy [5:33:22]  bondy. [5:33:22]  bondy. [5:33:22] >> just a point of information, can we [5:33:29] can we get that levy before we keep [5:33:30] keep going? [5:33:31] >> kindly vote on this and then we [5:33:40] we will have a conversation? [5:33:41] is that okay? [5:33:42] lesser getting almost ready time for [5:33:43] for break so let's do a couple of these [5:33:46] of these things in sequential order. [5:33:49] of these things in sequential order. [5:33:49] so that's asked about. [5:33:52] much that cost is and I know that [5:34:04] that it's. >> [5:34:07] >> it's 199,935. >> page [5:34:11] >> page 31. >> about some [5:34:12] >> about some of the $100,000. [5:34:15] >> yes, close, ballpark. [5:34:15] >> yes, close, ballpark. [5:34:15] >> thank you. [5:34:15] and that's carried. [5:34:43] so melissa, you have a question [5:34:46] from councillor bondy [5:34:46] from councillor bondy about where we [5:34:48] where we are in regards to levy [5:34:51] amount [5:34:53] amount? [5:34:53] do you need time to do that because [5:34:55] because we scheduled for a break break, [5:34:57] break, and I believe it's just so that running totals can [5:34:59] so that running totals can be kept in [5:34:59] kept in heads. On comfortable [5:35:03] on comfortable. >> I'm comfortable [5:35:04] >> I'm comfortable doing I don't [5:35:04] busy women [5:35:05] busy women have the final motion [5:35:05] of regulation [5:35:05] of regulation, will make sure that all the [5:35:07] that all the number that correct [5:35:07] so right now, [5:35:09] so right now, I had us reducing [5:35:11] 16,800 her [5:35:12] 16,800 her counsel remuneration [5:35:14] for [5:35:16] for that 2.5 percent increase have a reduction [5:35:17] have a reduction of 720,000 that we were putting towards [5:35:22] we were putting towards the hospital [5:35:22] hospital reserve and then added [5:35:25] back to the levy [5:35:25] back to the levy, specifically [5:35:26] is the pad [5:35:28] is the pad position as well as the [5:35:31] the training hours, the eight hours of training [5:35:34] hours of training hours so that brings [5:35:34] brings us to 2.25% tax rate increase at [5:35:39] increase at this time. [5:35:41] >> any questions on those numbers at [5:35:48] numbers at all no questions. [5:35:52] councillor walstedt. >> approve [5:35:58] >> approve the budget, so moved [5:35:59] . Were out of here [5:36:00] were out of here. A don't know else [5:36:00] a don't know else to talk about [5:36:00] . [5:36:00] I don't need a break,. >> well, you know, [5:36:04] >> well, you know, what, they just need a [5:36:07] just need a minute. [5:36:08] can we take a break and then we [5:36:12] will come back to [5:36:12] will come back to that amount through endless [5:36:15] through endless treatment -- come [5:36:24] come back to you and your statement. We [5:36:25] come back to you and your statement. We [5:36:25] we will do a 15 minute break, [5:36:28] can [5:36:28] can you be back here at 2:50, I need a [5:36:29] need a motion councillor meloche [5:36:35] and [5:36:36] and councillor akpata I call in favour [5:36:37] favour of a 15 minute break, opposed [5:36:38] opposed, carried. [5:36:38] [5:36:51] [5:36:51] [5:36:51] [5:36:51] [5:36:51] [5:36:51] >> test. [5:47:00] >> test. [5:47:12] we're at 2:50 and I'd like to resume the [5:51:59] resume the meeting. [5:52:01] councillor walstedt we have a [5:52:13] few folks [5:52:13] few folks who would like to include a [5:52:14] include a few motions if you don't [5:52:14] don't mind holding off. >> if they [5:52:16] >> if they insist. [laughter] [5:52:17] >> if they insist. [laughter] [5:52:17] >> thank you kind, sir,. [5:52:22] it's duly appreciated. [5:52:22] councillor bailey. >> I wanted to [5:52:28] >> I wanted to circle back to the [5:52:28] the group because we were talking [5:52:29] talking about the 10161 kilometres [5:52:34] kilometres we created in this region and I [5:52:35] region and I understand that we [5:52:38] do have [5:52:38] do have the number I know I've been talking to my [5:52:39] been talking to my department throughout [5:52:39] throughout the day and having [5:52:42] some conversation so I [5:52:42] some conversation so I know we [5:52:42] do have [5:52:44] do have a number they purify also [5:52:44] also know that the dollars being asked for [5:52:48] asked for is just a bit of an earmark [5:52:50] earmark because it comes from the [5:52:51] the reserve and will not impact [5:52:53] the [5:52:53] the levy anyway but I did want [5:52:54] to be able to [5:52:55] to be able to return back to the [5:52:58] c [5:52:59] c watts committee and groups as [5:53:00] we talk [5:53:01] we talk to them saying that we have [5:53:03] have reserved the dollars in the [5:53:04] reserve for that [5:53:04] reserve for that product and I [5:53:07] will ask [5:53:07] will ask it administration if [5:53:07] they can confirm the [5:53:07] they can confirm the amount that [5:53:09] would be needed to [5:53:10] would be needed to be earmark [5:53:11] here at the county and [5:53:11] here at the county and I would like to [5:53:11] like to make a motion to go ahead and [5:53:13] ahead and proceed that we hold those dollars from the Discussion [5:53:17] ahead and proceed that we hold those dollars from the Discussion [5:53:17] discussion with c watts and that I [5:53:19] I could get a second or. >> thank you, [5:53:24] >> thank you, three warden, is to [5:53:26] to expand a little bit on that [5:53:27] , we're referring [5:53:28] we're referring to a c watts. Shoulder [5:53:29] shoulder project in lakeshore along county [5:53:31] along county road 42. [5:53:34] we have approximated the cost to [5:53:35] be somewhere [5:53:35] be somewhere between $625,700,000. [5:53:43] be somewhere between $625,700,000. [5:53:43] it's a cost shared segment between [5:53:48] between county and lakeshore. In [5:53:49] in this situation we will be adding [5:53:51] adding a paved shoulder onto an [5:53:51] existing [5:53:51] existing road and be part of our combined [5:53:55] combined paving and paved shoulder project [5:53:56] shoulder project as a stand-alone [5:53:56] stand-alone paved shoulder. [5:53:58] so, if we went with a number of [5:54:03] 625, the [5:54:05] 625, the county's share would be approximately [5:54:06] approximately $375,000. [5:54:08] >> clerks will craft a motion [5:54:24] for [5:54:24] for you to look at before we move on [5:54:26] move on, if you're good with that, [5:54:28] that, councillor bailey. [5:54:28] so counsellor if I can draw your attention [5:54:49] attention to the motion that reads that [5:54:50] reads that essex county council [5:54:52] reserves [5:54:53] reserves 375,000 in the dedicated [5:54:54] dedicated reserve for the c watts [5:54:56] watts program. [5:54:57] are you good with that? Looking [5:55:00] looking for a second or for that [5:55:01] motion [5:55:02] motion. [5:55:02] it's moved by councillor bailey and [5:55:04] and seconded by councillor walstedt [5:55:06] walstedt. [5:55:06] any comments or questions in regards to that [5:55:08] regards to that motion? [5:55:08] councillor meloche. >> I have no [5:55:12] >> I have no problem reserving money in [5:55:14] money in the reserve but I feel [5:55:17] like [5:55:18] like I'm lacking a lot of information [5:55:19] information regarding the c watts program [5:55:19] watts program and where that falls in the [5:55:21] falls in the order of replacement [5:55:22] replacement or order of items to be done in [5:55:25] be done in 2026. Does [5:55:28] does not bump someone else that [5:55:28] we've already [5:55:28] we've already approved? [5:55:29] I know we don't have the report in front [5:55:32] in front of us so I don't know that information off [5:55:33] that information off hand. >> thank you [5:55:39] >> thank you, the recommendation [5:55:42] would be that [5:55:42] would be that we take this money from [5:55:44] from reserves so it wouldn't impact [5:55:47] impact any of the other planned projects we [5:55:47] projects we have and this segment [5:55:51] segment was not intended to be built for a [5:55:51] built for a few more years. [5:55:53] >> does it bump anyone I believe [5:56:03] was [5:56:04] was the question, into someone else's initiative [5:56:05] else's initiative -- does someone [5:56:06] someone else's initiative get bumped [5:56:06] bumped? [5:56:06] >> three warden, that's what I [5:56:11] was [5:56:11] was saying, we wouldn't bump any projects if [5:56:12] projects if this money is taken from [5:56:14] from reserve. [5:56:16] we would continue with the planned project [5:56:19] planned project on this would be [5:56:19] an additional [5:56:19] an additional project but I'm sure melissa [5:56:20] sure melissa has a comment on [5:56:23] that [5:56:23] that. >> so technically it would Increase [5:56:26] that. >> so technically it would Increase [5:56:26] increase the program for 26 however that addition would be [5:56:32] however that addition would be [5:56:32] roadway expansion [5:56:33] roadway expansion funded so it [5:56:35] would [5:56:35] would not affect the levy but it does [5:56:37] does increase the entire program because the other projects [5:56:38] because the other projects are already in [5:56:38] already in there and this would be [5:56:40] be an additional project added to that project [5:56:43] to that project list. [5:56:43] >> so it wouldn't be coming from [5:56:51] the c watts reserve is [5:56:52] the c watts reserve is what you're saying [5:56:52] you're saying then? [5:56:55] >> c watts doesn't utilize the roadway expansion [5:57:01] roadway expansion reserve. [5:57:01] there is not its own specific [5:57:03] reserve [5:57:03] reserve yet so it's the roadway [5:57:06] expansion reserve [5:57:06] expansion reserve that typically [5:57:06] funds [5:57:07] funds then see what -- a portion [5:57:07] of the program [5:57:07] of the program. [5:57:07] so there's no c watts reserve. [5:57:14] it's roadway expansion. [5:57:14] >> so further, how much is enough [5:57:18] enough reserve? [5:57:18] >> originally, it was about 56 million anticipated [5:57:26] 56 million anticipated at the [5:57:28] end [5:57:28] end of 2026, if all the projects move [5:57:29] move forward as they are. As [5:57:31] as of right now. [5:57:32] so there would be about 56 million so any additional [5:57:33] 56 million so any additional items [5:57:38] items that get approved would draw [5:57:39] draw down on lot 56 million. [5:57:41] >> are you okay? Councillor prue [5:57:49] councillor prue. [5:57:49] >> I want to make sure before I [5:57:53] tie up [5:57:53] tie up $375,000 in the county, [5:57:56] it's going to cost [5:57:59] it's going to cost 300,000 approximately [5:57:59] approximately the lakeshore. [5:58:02] you have the money? [5:58:04] and you're willing to spend of this [5:58:12] this year that's what this is [5:58:12] about [5:58:12] about. [5:58:12] >> that question will go through me so I [5:58:18] me so I will look to you councillor [5:58:18] councillor bailey. >> I'm [5:58:21] >> I'm a quick learner. >> 3u [5:58:22] >> 3u, yes indeed it will be considered [5:58:23] considered in the budget tomorrow [5:58:25] tomorrow with the municipality [5:58:27] . >> in [5:58:28] >> in your budget you'll put 300,000 in [5:58:29] 300,000 in? [5:58:29] >> yes so I'm asking the county to tap [5:58:32] to tap into their reserves for [5:58:34] 300,000 and we have [5:58:37] 300,000 and we have 56 million in there. [5:58:38] 300,000 and we have 56 million in there. [5:58:38] thank you. [5:58:38] >> my question is answered and [5:58:42] you secured my [5:58:42] you secured my vote. [5:58:43] >> thank you. [5:58:45] another question, councillor deyong [5:58:49] deyong? [5:58:49] okay so there are no further questions [5:58:51] questions then. [5:58:54] I'll ask you to vote electronically [5:58:54] electronically, please. [5:58:56] and that's carried. >> [5:59:24] >> I would like to bring through item 14 on our appendix [5:59:25] item 14 on our appendix three which is [5:59:25] which is the traffic signal at  at county [5:59:29] at county road 20 and martin lane. [5:59:31] at county road 20 and martin lane. [5:59:31] when study was completed well [5:59:32] over a year ago I [5:59:32] over a year ago I guess at the [5:59:32] time [5:59:33] time, it was based on traffic [5:59:36] counts [5:59:36] counts. We [5:59:36] we hadn't changed the way we evaluated [5:59:38] evaluated our intersections and [5:59:39] so I took the [5:59:40] so I took the time to reach out [5:59:42] to [5:59:43] to our police chief to get some numbers to help us [5:59:44] numbers to help us understand [5:59:46] that intersection [5:59:46] that intersection I'm laughing it's important that we [5:59:47] it's important that we install the [5:59:47] the signal. [5:59:48] in january 1st of october 31st of this year [5:59:51] of this year, the town of la  la salle [5:59:54] la salle had a worker can't traffic [5:59:55] traffic actions. Of those, [5:59:57] of those, 41% were on front road and [6:00:02] and 20% occurred right in that [6:00:02] zone that we're looking [6:00:02] zone that we're looking at install this [6:00:03] install this light that the area [6:00:06] where the speed [6:00:07] where the speed limit goes from 70 to [6:00:07] 70 to 50 as we either enter it la salle [6:00:10] la salle or leave la salle and that intersection [6:00:12] that intersection is 0.3% of the [6:00:16] total [6:00:16] total road for the entire town [6:00:18] yet represents over [6:00:18] yet represents over 6% of the traffic actions [6:00:19] traffic actions that take place in [6:00:19] in the town. [6:00:20] we've also had four accidents at [6:00:23] that intersection [6:00:23] that intersection just this year [6:00:25] alone [6:00:26] alone, one just past the intersection [6:00:28] intersection was a fatality and [6:00:31] the intersections [6:00:31] the intersections before and after have [6:00:32] after have also seen several accidents throughout the [6:00:33] accidents throughout the 2025 year [6:00:34] year and so, that's a very busy [6:00:36] intersection for [6:00:36] intersection for us. [6:00:37] it's a direct route through the [6:00:40] town and we find that [6:00:40] town and we find that people tend [6:00:42] tend to speed right through that [6:00:45] area and [6:00:45] area and it's very dangerous as we [6:00:45] we have a school known that road [6:00:48] and I watched the [6:00:49] and I watched the school buses constantly try to [6:00:49] constantly try to turn and get [6:00:51] in [6:00:52] in through the very high level [6:00:53] of traffic that [6:00:54] of traffic that travels from la  la salle to amherstburg [6:00:55] la salle to amherstburg or vice  vice versa and [6:00:55] vice versa and so I'm asking for support from [6:00:57] support from council today to approve this intersection [6:01:00] approve this intersection. [6:01:00] it's put as an estimated cost of [6:01:04] 500,000. [6:01:07] 500,000. [6:01:07] and appendix three it asks to be levy [6:01:09] levy funded. [6:01:09] I don't want it to be levy funded [6:01:11] funded as we heard, our roadway expansion reserve [6:01:12] expansion reserve is hefty and I [6:01:13] would like [6:01:13] would like that we funded from [6:01:17] that reserve and get that [6:01:17] that reserve and get that intersection upgraded this [6:01:17] intersection upgraded this year and that's my [6:01:19] and that's my motion. >> we will come [6:01:24] >> we will come back to reading [6:01:24] the [6:01:24] the full motion butwill come back [6:01:26] I see that to reading the full [6:01:26] full melissa [6:01:26] melissa would like to speak to it. [6:01:26] melissa would like to speak to it. [6:01:26] melissa motion. [6:01:27] >> just point of clarification [6:01:29] . >> point of clarification [6:01:29] >> point of clarification. [6:01:29] ,so 6 million although the it's a [6:01:32] 56 million, although it is [6:01:33] 56 million, although it is a larger dollar [6:01:34] larger dollar larger [6:01:34] larger amount, because of the [6:01:37] the roadway expansion plan we have planned [6:01:38] have planned over the next 20 years [6:01:40] years, it will be depleted as of [6:01:41] 2028. [6:01:43] 2028. [6:01:43] just don't want it to be -- we [6:01:46] are [6:01:47] are nearing that target, I just wanted [6:01:52] wanted to add that. [6:01:53] >> any other comments or questions [6:01:53] questions? [6:01:53] we are already updated,. >> so it [6:02:05] >> so it will be approved for funding for the [6:02:06] funding for the expansion reserve [6:02:07] reserve in 2026 and that is moved by councillor [6:02:09] moved by councillor meloche, looking for a [6:02:10] looking for a second. [6:02:17] deputy? [6:02:17] I will ask you to vote electronically, [6:02:24] electronically, please. [6:02:26] that is carried. [6:02:44] deputy warden, do you have something [6:02:48] something you wanted to bring [6:02:50] forward? [6:02:50] forward? [6:02:50] >> just a question through the chief, [6:02:52] chief, I know the rank order hear that [6:02:53] hear that business states, so far [6:02:57] far we have approved numbers one one, [6:03:02] one, can you get the correct numbers [6:03:03] numbers that were approved?  [6:03:03] ? [6:03:03] there are two numbers. [6:03:09] >> they are listed on the screen [6:03:22] here, [6:03:23] here, 918, line 19, line 23, 24, line [6:03:27] line one, line five and 14. [6:03:36] >> community programs coordinator, [6:03:39] coordinator, was that one of them [6:03:41] them and the command of operations [6:03:45] operations, was that one of them [6:03:45]  them? [6:03:45]  them? [6:03:45] what about the second vehicle [6:03:49] service technician [6:03:49] service technician? [6:03:49] okay, I would like to see in terms of health care dollars [6:03:55] terms of health care dollars, I [6:03:55] know we [6:03:56] know we the furred kept the budget for [6:03:58] budget for the hospital grant the same rate is [6:04:01] the same rate is 2025 and I know that there [6:04:03] that there were six or seven cases [6:04:07] cases that were presented by the chief [6:04:08] chief, if I can ask the chief of the [6:04:09] the ones that have been approved [6:04:11] if there's one market [6:04:12] if there's one market will elect to [6:04:12] to see one more at this year's [6:04:18] budget to compensate the health  Health care [6:04:19] budget to compensate the health  Health care [6:04:19] health care dollars for health  health care [6:04:19] health care's without ems has the support and [6:04:22] the support and resources they were [6:04:24] were asking for. [6:04:25] I'm not sure if it item two or three that the chief [6:04:29] three that the chief could speak [6:04:30] to [6:04:31] to, if he had to pick one more, [6:04:33] I [6:04:34] I would like to put that word is a [6:04:34] a motion. [6:04:36] >> through you warden, and discussions [6:04:46] discussions with the team, commander of operations [6:04:46] commander of operations line three [6:04:52] three. >> may be can [6:04:53] >> may be can you share why that [6:04:54] would be important and how it [6:04:55] would be important and how it [6:04:56] would impact [6:04:56] would impact your delivery of service [6:04:59] service. >> the operations [6:05:00] >> the operations department right now is staffed [6:05:02] right now is staffed by the deputy chief [6:05:04] deputy chief and frontline supervisors [6:05:07] supervisors. The debate if [6:05:07] the debate if chief is monday [6:05:09] to friday and the [6:05:09] friday and the others are on the shift [6:05:11] shift. [6:05:11] ..they work monday, tuesday, these [6:05:17] these are nights, off wednesday [6:05:18] thursday [6:05:18] thursday, or on the weekend. We [6:05:19] we don't have a running support [6:05:21] for the [6:05:22] for the deputy chief to be able to follow [6:05:23] to follow through on things. Summit he [6:05:24] summit he starts working something [6:05:26] something up on monday, tuesday [6:05:30] then the off-line... [6:05:30] then the off-line... May be to have [6:05:30] have the we can off, falling back [6:05:33] back on the deputy chief, there's no support [6:05:34] there's no support on constant monday [6:05:37] monday to friday to allow him to function and [6:05:39] function and to stay on top of operational [6:05:41] operational issues. [6:05:41] it's a fast moving service 24/7 [6:05:43] , things are happening [6:05:44] things are happening every day, [6:05:45] day and night. It [6:05:45] day and night. It [6:05:45] it provide some capacity. >> thank you. [6:05:49] it provide some capacity. >> thank you. [6:05:49] I'll put that word is a motion to [6:05:51] to include -- the volume of calls have increased [6:05:57] calls have increased significantly and I [6:05:57] significantly and I believe we need to [6:05:59] need to provide support for this operation [6:06:01] operation. [6:06:01] I'll delete make that as a motion [6:06:06] motion. >> that [6:06:18] >> that motion is that the command [6:06:19] command of operations be added to [6:06:20] to the 2026 essex-windsor budget [6:06:24]  budget... [6:06:24] budget... The treasurer's report to be divided [6:06:27] report to be divided with the weight of assistant formula that [6:06:30] weight of assistant formula that [6:06:30] is moved [6:06:30] is moved by counsellor deputy warden [6:06:33] warden looking for a [6:06:35] warden looking for a [6:06:35] warden looking for a [6:06:35] [6:06:35] [6:06:35] [6:06:35] [6:06:35] second, councillor mcnamara. [6:06:41] second, councillor mcnamara. [6:06:41] I'm asking you to vote electronically [6:06:43] electronically, please. [6:06:49] >> -- I was -- at this point I [6:06:58] believe [6:07:00] believe that this is 12 staff members that [6:07:03] members that will be asking the city [6:07:06] city to cofund at 50 percent, [6:07:10] correct [6:07:10] correct? [6:07:10] overall, from the county, there were [6:07:16] were 11 positions and added back [6:07:16] in [6:07:17] in with the pad coordinator so that [6:07:20] that would be 12 and then I believe that [6:07:27] believe that said. [6:07:27] that's it for positions however from [6:07:28] from that there were few human [6:07:32] resources position [6:07:32] resources position, oneness have between [6:07:33] between ems and halfs and part [6:07:37] of [6:07:37] of our homes. [6:07:37] the 25% of that portion would be [6:07:39] covered by the [6:07:39] covered by the city [6:07:40] covered by the city [6:07:40] covered by the city [6:07:40] . [6:07:40] in the ms positions would be that way [6:07:44] that way of assessment. >> thank you for that [6:07:46] >> thank you for that. [6:07:46] I know it's great work and I know overtime is going to [6:07:51] know overtime is going to be needed. We are really [6:07:53] know overtime is going to be needed. We are really [6:07:53] we are really looking out at to [6:07:56] eat an [6:07:56] eat an elephant because we saw the master [6:07:56] the master plans and the cost needed for [6:08:00] needed for services like these. [6:08:01] these are hard ones to deal with the [6:08:03] is [6:08:04] is numbers of council. Were trying [6:08:05] were trying to eat too many pieces [6:08:07] pieces. Certainly [6:08:07] certainly bridging the gap makes [6:08:08] sense but during [6:08:09] sense but during the gap to this [6:08:10] extent [6:08:11] extent and one fiscal calendar year [6:08:13] year I think it's a whole lot did you [6:08:14] did you. I'm going to be [6:08:15] I'm going to be opposing the motion on [6:08:16] motion on the table. >> thank you. [6:08:20] motion on the table. >> thank you. [6:08:20] councillor prue? [6:08:21] >> as I said to a few people today I've [6:08:26] today I've never been to a budget like this [6:08:27] budget like this before in my 30 some years [6:08:30] some years where everybody is [6:08:33] adding [6:08:33] adding into the budget. Usually [6:08:33] usually cancels it around -- council [6:08:37] council sit around and put it [6:08:41] at an acceptable [6:08:41] an acceptable level. [6:08:41] right now it's acceptable at 2.25. [6:08:45] right now it's acceptable at 2.25. [6:08:45] I understand what the ms wants, I understand and [6:08:51] I understand and appreciate what they [6:08:51] they want. [6:08:52] my wife and I both used their service [6:08:55] service in the last two years, they are excellent [6:08:56] they are excellent but I want [6:08:58] to tell you, [6:08:59] tell you, when you have a wish [6:08:59] list [6:09:00] list that is vetted by senior management [6:09:02] management and is not there for a [6:09:05] a reason, it's not there because they [6:09:08] they didn't feel they could do it [6:09:10] it and come in with a budget that [6:09:10] that was reasonable. Had never seen [6:09:13] had never seen anyone just go, [6:09:14] right down [6:09:15] right down the list and say they [6:09:18] want all these [6:09:18] want all these things can just give it [6:09:19] give it to them. I [6:09:20] I have never seen it. [6:09:20] no conscience even though it might [6:09:22] might be valuable, it will still be [6:09:26] be there next year and if we have the [6:09:26] have the money next year then we [6:09:29] should [6:09:29] should spend it then. [6:09:31] I don't often care what happens [6:09:33] because they [6:09:33] because they don't treat us very almost often but I [6:09:36] almost often but I can understand [6:09:37] understand what councillor bailey's [6:09:39] bailey's house to say here. [6:09:42] you go and tell them... Is not going to [6:09:47] going to bode well to continue negotiations [6:09:49] negotiations if they ever do take [6:09:51] take place. [6:09:53] I don't think it's the wrong way to [6:09:54] to do it. I appreciate [6:09:57] I appreciate it's on the wish [6:09:58] list [6:09:58] list but not all wishes come true [6:09:59] true. All [6:09:59] all not -- I will now be supporting [6:10:05] supporting this. >> I am not sure if [6:10:08] >> I am not sure if adding that [6:10:08] position [6:10:10] position like to point to 5% right [6:10:12] right now, do we know what it would be if we [6:10:15] would be if we added this position [6:10:17] position? [6:10:17] as I understand, I'm seeing both sides, [6:10:20] sides, I really am. [6:10:21] it's a bit of a hard one for me [6:10:23] because I [6:10:24] because I supported ems, I see there is [6:10:30] there is so much value added and [6:10:34] everyone over [6:10:34] everyone over family members and ourselves are [6:10:34] ourselves are going to need them at some [6:10:35] at some point. [6:10:37] I am inclined to support this [6:10:40] because [6:10:40] because I have always supported [6:10:41] ems [6:10:43] ems and if it's not supported [6:10:46] I do hope [6:10:46] do hope that [6:10:46] do hope that [6:10:46] do hope that [6:10:46] our chief may bring it [6:10:48] it back to us, it's an extra need. [6:10:53] it back to us, it's an extra need. [6:10:53] I do believe that administration came to [6:10:53] came to us with a really low-budget [6:10:58] low-budget because they read the room [6:10:59] room, it's an election year, the [6:11:01] red the [6:11:02] red the room and they wanted to [6:11:02] get as [6:11:02] get as many of their things past as [6:11:07] as they could but I believe administration [6:11:08] administration pulled a lot of items [6:11:09] items out of the budget to get that [6:11:09] that around 3%. [6:11:13] do I think there is some needs [6:11:15] in the list [6:11:16] in the list that -- or someone [6:11:19] 's -- [6:11:24] -- I don't know, I don't want to slip [6:11:26] slip backwards and we are going [6:11:28] in the [6:11:28] in the right direction. [6:11:29] did I talk long enough to get you [6:11:30] you that number? No [6:11:32] no? [6:11:32] >> through you warden, adding [6:11:41] that position would move [6:11:41] that position would move us from [6:11:41] 2.25% to [6:11:46] 2.25% to 3.2%. [6:11:48] the tax policy doesn't get approved [6:11:50] approved until february so that [6:11:51] can [6:11:53] can slightly change. [6:11:55] as it stands right now we would meet moving from [6:11:56] meet moving from 2.25% to 2.32% [6:12:03] . >> anyone else [6:12:05] >> anyone else? In that case [6:12:07] in that case will ask you to both electronically [6:12:08] both electronically, please, for the motion [6:12:10] the motion. [6:12:10] and that is lost. Councillor deyong? [6:12:26] and that is lost. Councillor deyong? [6:12:26] >> may be last but not least I [6:12:30] would like to make [6:12:30] would like to make a motion for [6:12:33] appendix [6:12:34] appendix three. >> it's the [6:12:41] >> it's the traffic signal  signal county [6:12:44] signal county 23. [6:12:51] >> just to confirm roadway expansion [6:13:10] expansion. [6:13:10] so the motion is that the traffic [6:13:38] traffic signal be added to the [6:13:43] 2026 infrastructure and [6:13:44] 2026 infrastructure and planning services [6:13:44] services budget is outlined on line [6:13:47] line ten of the appendix three of the [6:13:49] of the treasury's report and that [6:13:49] that is moved by counsellor the young looking for a [6:13:53] young looking for a seconder. Councillor [6:13:53] councillor meloche? [6:13:56] [simultaneous talking] [6:14:00] >> a la it over again, sorry. [6:14:02] revised, refreshed, is the motion that [6:14:06] motion that the traffic signal [6:14:07] be [6:14:10] be approved and funded from the [6:14:12] road [6:14:12] road to expansion reserving 2026 2026. [6:14:17] road to expansion reserving 2026 2026. [6:14:17] that is moved by councillor deyong and [6:14:17] deyong and second by councillor [6:14:24] meloche [6:14:25] meloche. >> may be you [6:14:30] >> may be you will have deja vu [6:14:30] from a [6:14:30] from a few minutes ago, but I'll try to keep [6:14:31] try to keep it specific. From [6:14:33] from the comments on the report [6:14:36] there has been 19 collisions [6:14:36] there has been 19 collisions including a [6:14:36] including a fatality and multiple major [6:14:38] multiple major injuries. [6:14:40] the intersection already has oversight [6:14:43] oversight stop signs and flashing [6:14:43] flashing red beacons that are [6:14:45] not preventing [6:14:45] not preventing these incidences. At [6:14:48] at the stretch of road is pretty [6:14:52] much [6:14:53] much a clear way connecting kingsville [6:14:54] kingsville to harrow, there's [6:14:56] not anything really slowing People [6:14:56] not anything really slowing People [6:14:56] people down the hall stretch and [6:15:00] in [6:15:01] in addition to the faculty at the actual intersection [6:15:02] the actual intersection there has [6:15:03] has been two deaths just this year [6:15:05] year on either side of this intersection [6:15:05] intersection. I [6:15:05] I think having a light that makes [6:15:11] makes people aware that this is a [6:15:11] a place where other things happened besides just a [6:15:15] happened besides just a straight through [6:15:15] through will make that safer because people [6:15:22] because people will have to slow down [6:15:22] down for the site and against [6:15:25] at something similarly [6:15:25] something similarly funded but does it say [6:15:27] does it say one time expense. >> any comments or questions [6:15:33] >> any comments or questions? [6:15:33] councillor bailey. >> I [6:15:36] >> I was feverishly trying to go through my other [6:15:38] through my other notes from my [6:15:41] briefcase because [6:15:42] briefcase because I do believe [6:15:43] that [6:15:43] that this was assessed and it was [6:15:43] was on the list that we received but [6:15:47] but I'm wondering where it was [6:15:47] at on that [6:15:47] at on that list. >> page [6:15:50] >> page 33, number 10. >> sorry, I [6:15:53] >> sorry, I was referring to the project [6:15:55] project list. And will turn [6:16:00] and will turn to the director. [6:16:12] [6:16:12] >> through you, I think I found [6:16:28] it [6:16:28] it here, number 42 on that vehicle [6:16:29] vehicle list. [6:16:30] I think my only question would be [6:16:33] be when these were ranked as the top 100 intersections [6:16:36] top 100 intersections, they were [6:16:37] ranked in a [6:16:38] ranked in a priority reading of this [6:16:41] this number. I [6:16:42] I see it sounded appendix b, I [6:16:51] see it was ranked significantly [6:16:52] see it was ranked significantly [6:16:52] lower than many [6:16:53] lower than many of the others so I'm just wondering [6:16:53] I'm just wondering if you can speak [6:16:54] speak to that. >> do you want to [6:17:06] >> do you want to speak too? [6:17:11] >> I remember we have dollars [6:17:13] in -- [6:17:15] -- for the design of it in 2025, [6:17:17] so maybe that's why [6:17:17] so maybe that's why it's on a [6:17:19] project [6:17:19] project last seen but we do have the [6:17:20] the design dollars, this would be the [6:17:22] be the construction dollars from [6:17:24] my understanding [6:17:25] my understanding when we had a conversation [6:17:26] conversation around this because I [6:17:27] I did see it on the report. [6:17:27] it was designed dollars not construction [6:17:30] construction dollars. [6:17:31] >> do we still need an answer [6:17:37] or are you [6:17:37] are you okay? [6:17:38] thanks for looking, allen. [6:17:41] no other questions then? [6:17:45] can we get a seconder? [6:17:47] I did not write it down, who was it [6:17:51] it? [6:17:51] we are looking to -- [6:18:03] [indiscernible] [6:18:03] all right, then we are looking to vote [6:18:07] to vote on the motion. [6:18:08] that is carried, thank you. [6:18:30] so, are there any other additions [6:18:35] additions? If [6:18:35] if not, we are at the point in time [6:18:37] time where we could actually [6:18:40] vote for the final budget. There is recommendation [6:18:42] there is recommendation that the essex county [6:18:45] essex county council... Approves the amount [6:18:51] approves the amount of -- do you have a [6:18:59] have a final number? [6:18:59] okay. [6:18:59] it got smaller, hang on a second second. A hundred [6:19:09] it got smaller, hang on a second second. A hundred [6:19:09] a hundred and 45 million, hundred and [6:19:15] hundred and 44,000, 150. [6:19:19] >> what she said. [6:19:21] looking for a mover and seconder [6:19:25]  seconder. [6:19:25]  seconder. [6:19:25] any discussion on the motion? [6:19:30] did you want me to read it again [6:19:34]  again? [6:19:34]  again? [6:19:34] I'll read it again. [6:19:38] >> there it is, the motion is that [6:20:02] that the county council approves as [6:20:05] as amended the overall proposed [6:20:07] 2026v requirement [6:20:07] 2026v requirement for the county [6:20:07] of essex [6:20:10] of essex in the amount of $145,144,950 most [6:20:16] $145,144,950 -- moved [6:20:20] $145,144,950 -- moved by councillor [6:20:21] councillor deyong. I'll ask you [6:20:25] I'll ask you to vote electronically [6:20:27] electronically, please. [6:20:31] that is carried unanimously. [6:20:41] well done. [6:20:41] there are no items of unfinished [6:20:48] business. [6:20:48] business. [6:20:48] for consideration for december [6:20:52]  december third [6:20:53] december third 2025, any other [6:20:53] mark Matters [6:20:54] mark Matters [6:20:54] matters of new business to bring [6:20:55] forward? [6:20:56] forward? [6:20:56] >> it's just wondering where we [6:21:01] stand with meeting [6:21:01] stand with meeting with the hospital [6:21:03] hospital, because we talked about it [6:21:06] about it here at budget, we talked about [6:21:06] talked about it and I'm wondering [6:21:08] wondering if there's any follow-up from and [6:21:09] follow-up from and mr. And from having [6:21:09] having that's joint meeting, please and [6:21:12] please and thanks. >> I [6:21:16] >> I know we attempted twice this fall to [6:21:16] this fall to have a joint meeting [6:21:17] meeting with the city to have a [6:21:19] presentation [6:21:19] presentation about the hospital [6:21:22] . Information [6:21:22] information hasn't been finalized from [6:21:26] finalized from that group and speaking with administration [6:21:30] speaking with administration both of the [6:21:30] both of the city and with windsor regional hospital [6:21:33] windsor regional hospital, we [6:21:33] want [6:21:33] want to make sure this joint meeting is as meaningful and [6:21:35] meeting is as meaningful and productive as [6:21:35] productive as possible for both of [6:21:37] of our councils. [6:21:38] we had this conversation... It's expected that [6:21:45] it's expected that windsor regional [6:21:45] regional in operation with the [6:21:48] province had more concrete Information [6:21:49] province had more concrete Information [6:21:49] information to share with us publicly [6:21:50] publicly in the new year. [6:21:51] at something we are definitely still [6:21:53] still in connection with both [6:21:58] windsor regional [6:21:58] windsor regional in the city of windsor [6:21:59] windsor on this topic. [6:22:00] and wanting to make sure that the foregoing [6:22:01] the foregoing to bring in every [6:22:01] bite in the [6:22:02] bite in the room together, it's a worthwhile conversation [6:22:06] a worthwhile conversation. Stay tuned [6:22:06] stay tuned and the hope is that [6:22:09] in q1 [6:22:09] in q1 of 2026 we will be able [6:22:10] to record [6:22:10] record eight that joint meeting [6:22:13] . >> anyone else [6:22:17] >> anyone else or new business [6:22:18] ? [6:22:18] seeing him, there's one bylaw [6:22:20] for the [6:22:20] for the kenny consideration this afternoon [6:22:21] afternoon that will be read by the [6:22:24] the county clerk. >> bylaw [6:22:26] >> bylaw number 2025, being a [6:22:29] pilot [6:22:29] pilot you can from proceedings of the [6:22:29] of the council of the corporation [6:22:31] corporation... For december  december third [6:22:35] december third 2025. >> motion [6:22:40] >> motion is a recommendation that [6:22:41] that counsel -- bylaw two '02 [6:22:45] 553 be given through readings And [6:22:45] 553 be given through readings And [6:22:45] and have being read a second and [6:22:50] third time, finally [6:22:50] third time, finally passed and [6:22:50] enacted [6:22:52] enacted, looking for a mover and [6:22:53] seconder [6:22:53] seconder. [6:22:53] counselor mcnamara, second by -- [6:23:02] -- you'll have to vote electronically [6:23:03] electronically. [6:23:03] that is carried. [6:23:20] any notices of motion to be introduced [6:23:21] introduced for december third [6:23:24] 2025? [6:23:24] 2025? [6:23:24] seeing non, all matters of businesses [6:23:28] businesses have been addressed [6:23:28] . The motion [6:23:29] the motion is that essex county [6:23:33] council meeting [6:23:33] council meeting for december  december third [6:23:33] december third 2025 to be adjourned [6:23:34] adjourned at 3:22 p.m. [6:23:36] moved bank councillor gibb, counsellor [6:23:42] counsellor verbeke, that is carried, [6:23:46] carried, thank you.