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who are watching at home. Will the

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secretary please take role? Commissioner

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» Present.

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» Commissioner Murphy

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Edsil

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» Here.

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» Vice Chair Davidson

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» Here. and chair chair lemon here.

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» Thank you. And um now Commissioner Zel

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will lead us in the pledge of

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allegiance.

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» Yes, please stand and put your hand over

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your heart.

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I

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» Pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you. Our um next item on the

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agenda is our consent calendar. Are

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there any items that any commissioner

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I'm fine. Okay. So, seeing none, is

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there a motion to approve the consent

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calendar?

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» So, moved.

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» I'll second it.

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» Thank you. Please call for a vote.

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» Commissioner Vander Muan,

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» Yes.

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» Commissioner Murphy,

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» Yes.

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» Commissioner Edel,

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» Yes. Vice Chair Davidson,

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» Chair Leone,

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» Okay. And the motion passes.

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comments. This is, uh, for any person of

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the public, um, who would like to speak

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close a public comment and move on to

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the next item um which is uh commercial

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plan development 258 Rove Operating LLC

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with a recommendation to adopt a

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resolution approving the CPD. And we'll

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now hear a presentation.

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» Thank you, Chair Leone. This item will

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be presented by associate planner Serena

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Gonzalez.

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Good evening, commissioners and members

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of the public. Um, tonight I will be

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presenting on CBD 258, Rove. Um,

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this is a request uh made by Matt Stow

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from Rove Operating LLC to construct a

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new EV charging station and market on

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approximately 6 61,552

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square ft of a vacant 2.79 acre lot

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located on the corner of Ventura

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Boulevard and Camaro Center Drive.

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The project site has a general plan

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designation of commercial and zoning

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designation of commercial plan

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development.

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To the north of this site is Ventura

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Boulevard and the 101 freeway.

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motel right here and then the mobile

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home development down here. Uh to the

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south of the project site will be the

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Quickquack project site um and also a

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portion of the Camrio Premium Outlets.

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of the Camaro Premium Outlets.

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Um this is the existing site, a view

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from Camaro Center Drive facing

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southeast. Um it is currently just grass

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and some other miscellaneous uh shrubs

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and bushes. Uh two previous um

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developments have been approved for the

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site but were never constructed. Um that

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was an automobile service station and aa

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building. Um but the vacant the site has

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remained vacant since.

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Here is uh the site plan. You can see

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that there is an area for the retail

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building here. Um the tenant will be

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determined at a later date. Um and then

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over here will be the parking lot with

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approximately 40 EV charging spaces. The

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EV charging equipment will be located

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along this east property line here.

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Um this is the phasing plan. Uh the

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applicant

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um proposes to do this project in two

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different phases. The first being um

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underground infrastructure in the

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parking lot here with the EV chargers

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and um before the building is built, the

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applicant will be required to maintain

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this building pad here with landscaping.

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Um keep it looking nice until a tenant

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is identified. um and the second phase

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uh commences.

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there will also be a shared loading dock

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that you can't see on this specific um

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site plan, but you'll be able to see it

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on the quick hack one. Um that'll be

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right in the middle. So that way both

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sites have access um for loading. There

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won't be too much loading for either of

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them as it's a relatively small market.

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And then the um car wash doesn't get too

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many deliveries.

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Uh we went over the elevations a bit

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during architectural review, but um to

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kind of go through them again, you can

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see here um the east and west

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elevations. They are um done in an early

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Californian Mediterranean uh style that

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compliant with the heritage zone as well

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as the specific plan. Um here shows a

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mural mockup as well as these two. Um

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the final design of the mural will be

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subject to um the approval of the

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community development department um at a

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later time. Uh the building will be done

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in gray tones um that comply with the

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heritage zone. And here are the north

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and south elevations. Um you can see

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that the building includes different

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types of trelluses um and features to

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break up the um facades.

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Here's also the materials board. So you

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can see the the glazing of the windows

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to tie in the colors, the three

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different gray tones as well as um the

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metal that will be used on or the

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aluminum that will be used throughout

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the building

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to streamline environmental review. Um

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Parker Environmental prepared a single

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class 32 categorical exemption report

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for both Quickquack Car Wash and Rove

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charging and market projects. Um these

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two developments share the same parcel

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or both infill commercial uses

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consistent with zoning and the general

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plan. The combined analysis

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um confirm that neither project triggers

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any exceptions to the exemption. There

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are no unusual circumstances, cumulative

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impacts or significant effects related

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to traffic, air quality, noise or

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biological resources. The project is

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fully served by existing infrastructure,

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water, sewer, storm water, and emergency

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services. So, no extensions or major

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upgrades are needed. The site has no

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sensitive habitat habitats, is currently

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vacant, and contains only ornamental

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trees and invasive grasses. US Fish and

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Wildlife Service data confirms that

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there are no endangered or threatened

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spec species or critical habitats here.

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Air quality was a key consideration

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given the site's proximity to

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residential uses. The analysis applied

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Ventura County Air Pollution Control

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District's thresholds and modeled

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construction and operational emissions

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using Cal EOD. The results indicate that

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nitrogen oxides emissions will be

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approximately 22 pounds per day.

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important to note that this is a

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regional planning metric, not not a

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health-based standard. The VCA PCD

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threshold for significance is 25 pounds

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per day, and the project remains below

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that level. Compliance with this

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threshold means that the project's

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contribution to regional air quality

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impacts is considered less than

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significant under SQA. Furthermore,

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actual exposures for nearby residents,

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including those in adjacent mobile home

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parks, will be far below harmful

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concentrations because emissions

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disperse quickly and represent a

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negligible increase compared to existing

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background levels. A detailed sound plan

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analysis modeled worst case conditions,

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assuming all EV chargers and HVAC units

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operating simultaneously, and confirmed

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compliance with city standards. At the

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nearest residential property line,

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predicted project noise is only about 49

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dBA during the day and 38 at night,

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which is below the city's limits of 55

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during the day and 45 at night. Combined

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levels remain at existent ambient

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conditions measuring the pro project,

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meaning the project will not increase

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noise exposure for nearby residents. To

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enjoy ensure continued compliance, a

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post-operational noise study will be

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required after opening.

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Um, tonight staff recommends that the

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planning commission find that the

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project qualifies for a class 32

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categorical exemption pursuant to

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section 15332 of the California

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Environmental Quality Act guidelines and

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that they adopt a resolution approving

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CPD 258 subject to the recommended

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conditions of approval.

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that's it. Thank you.

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» Thank you. Do any of the commissioners

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have questions for staff?

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on the two projects on one lot, do we

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know if those are going to be leased or

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eventually divided or do we have any

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clue on that?

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» Currently, it is one owner. Um, okay. We

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have not indicated specifically whether

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they will sell them off. Um, they're

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maybe talks about lots, but we haven't

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determined quite yet. Okay,

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» I'm done.

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» Yeah. On the two different uses,

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are will they be two different owners?

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» Uh, yeah. uh for the

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» Yeah, I'm sorry. So, there's two

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different CDP

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» CPDs. Yes.

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» CP Yes. in front of us. And are each of

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those a different owner?

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» Yeah. The businesses will be owned

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separately, but the parcel is currently

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owned by one owner

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» And they will lease the land, I guess,

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from I got it. Okay.

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» All right. And then the the noise

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studies that you mentioned, the 49 dBA

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during the day and I think 38 at night.

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Um was that done by a recent noise study

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for the through the through through the

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applicant?

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» Yes, it was um prepared specifically for

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this project um updated as recently as

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October 30th.

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» Okay. And then how soon after the

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project is up and running will the

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future uh noise study be required?

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» We have conditioned it I believe for six

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» Six months. Okay. Thank you.

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» I have a question. Uh did the uh traffic

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engineer or anybody did they look into

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the concern about the traffic going into

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there?

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» Yes. And we have uh Rick Aos here. Um if

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you have any specific questions or if

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you would like him to speak on that.

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» I I just saw this one comment we got and

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I thought they made some good points

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that should at least be discussed. So, I

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just want to know what they did they do

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a traffic study or

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» Um they did submit a traffic study as

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part of that um as part of their

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application

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» And and they they're not requiring any

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kind of medication for it. They didn't

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think that was necessary.

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» No, that the um traffic study and I'm

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sure Rick can go into this in a little

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bit more detail um did not show that

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there would be any need for any

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mitigation measures.

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» Okay.

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Thank you.

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I have a question. Could you go back to

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one of the slides that just shows the

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general um y

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» Overall of the area? I think it's the

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one that showed where the where

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everything was.

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» This one or the other one there was

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» Um back further. It's the one that

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showed There we go. That one.

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» Thanks for that. Um

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» I and I guess I'm hearkening to what the

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um public comment said. Mhm.

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» We below to the south of this, we've got

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this beautiful culde-sac that that

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somebody had to build and yet the only

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access that it provides is to the to the

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Nike area of the outlet.

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Why didn't the the

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landowner developer seek to use that as

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access to the property instead of I know

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there's an apron already built to the

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property, but it it seems to me quite a

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waste of a perfectly good culde-sac and

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that would certainly alleviate maybe

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some of the traffic queuing problems so

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close to another intersection. Is there

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can somebody kind of talk to that a

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little bit?

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» Um

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the project site on that apron that you

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were just mentioning there will be a

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road that is in here but um I believe

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that Rick would probably be a little

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better suited to discuss those options.

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» I have an additional question regarding

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the traffic studies that have been done.

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First of all, were the traffic studies

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also done for the previous applications,

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the I think it was a service station and

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and aa um building and was any

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consideration given to a a free turn

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free right turn from Camrio Center Drive

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uh onto Ventura Boulevard. I I I know

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that that that would help relieve the

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the traffic congestion at that

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intersection. Um, but it's only for the

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limited time that's the the holiday

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season. The rest of the year it's,

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you know, I don't know if that gets

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incorporated into the traffic analysis,

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but I was wondering if had if a free

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turn had been considered for that

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location.

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» A free turn from which direction? I'm

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sorry.

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» Yeah. So, free right turn from Camrio

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Center Drive to Ventura Boulevard.

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uh just just at the corner to make the

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right turn going northbound.

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» The right turn doesn't need to stop

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because that that's where a lot of the

359
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congestion seems to happen.

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» Well, again limited to the holiday

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season,

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» Right? Uh yeah, thanks for the question.

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um that location has is all signalized

364
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now. And I think that uh you know when

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you put in a free ride like that then

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that causes additional concerns uh

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because then you have the possibility of

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people uh going uh eastbound and

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possibly running into the people that

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are making that right turn. It would

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just uh we didn't look into that for

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this particular case. Uh that wasn't one

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of the things that uh was looked at for

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the traffic impact study. Uh, and as far

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as other studies, uh, those are a little

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bit older and those kind of predate

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myself, so I haven't seen any of those

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studies in the past or from the past.

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Um, but to to go back to the

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question as to why the

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uh, location going into the culde-sac

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wasn't uh, suggested. uh that would

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probably be need to go back to the

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designers and u to see how they why they

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wanted to go that way. Uh the reason I

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would think that they probably did it

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was probably because this is probably

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the the first entrance and it's a little

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easier to see where the entryway to the

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loca to the uh quick quack and the rove

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would be

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um using the other entryway you would

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have to kind of drive all the way down

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to the back and around and that would be

395
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another issue. Uh the other thing would

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that I'm would assume is that that would

397
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shrink down the size of the Quickquack

398
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uh location. And so if it's shrunk down

399
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then that may cause additional issues

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for the queuing inside.

401
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» So we want they want to keep that as

402
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large as possible. This way it doesn't

403
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spill back out uh onto the roadway.

404
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But uh to kind of go back to the

405
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original question, uh that was

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submitted. Um you know, we understand

407
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that the concern about the queueing of

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Ventura Boulevard and the traffic study

409
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shows uh no major adverse impacts. Uh

410
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however, because this is a constrained

411
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location, a potential queueing will be

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addressed through the final striping. Uh

413
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and um final striping and signing review

414
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as required by the conditions of

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occupancy. Uh, so some of the things

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we're thinking about was possibly like a

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keep clear at the intersection so that

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when people are coming down to make a

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left, they can make a left turn into the

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location directly. So if there's a lot

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of traffic and is backed up to that

422
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point, that'll keep clear and that'll

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keep the traffic that's going southbound

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and they can make that left turn into uh

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the driveway. Uh, and then possibly

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we're going to see if we can squeeze in

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a little bit of a left turn pocket in

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there also to try to adjust that.

429
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Um they also mentioned new traffic

430
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signals. That was one of the questions

431
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that was on there. Uh just because of

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the number of you know it's too close to

433
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the other intersection as it is and the

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other signals. So we wouldn't be able to

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put that uh that in there. And same

436
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thing with stop signs. It's just too

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close for that type of situation. Uh but

438
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we might be able to go through and

439
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fine-tune the signal that's out there

440
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now. we can try to manage that so that

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we can uh adjust for the number of

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turning vehicles that we would have uh

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driving down the um going south and then

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um

445
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I think we uh discussed the access

446
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points on Ventura Boulevard. Well,

447
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Ventura Boulevard uh sort of the same

448
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,039
situation uh because of what we've got

449
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like if you're try to find another

450
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location to make an access point coming

451
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off of Ventur Boulevard first. It's a 45

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mile an hour north street and we already

453
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have enough entryways on Ventura

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Boulevard as it is and this uh would

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become cause some issues because they've

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got their equipment on the east side of

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the street there or east side of the

458
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project and that would cause some

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additional uh issues trying to get in

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00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,480
and out of there and it's just kind of

461
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,840
shifting the problem around.

462
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,320
» Yeah. Um, so,

463
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um, and and as I mentioned earlier, I

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think for the quick whack, it might

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cause those other issues if they were to

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come in from Hughes. So,

467
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» Thank you. Appreciate that. And I I know

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that with the outlets being a major

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economic driver that the city is very

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keen to um concerns and issues in the

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area. So, I have no doubt that you guys

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will be watching it. So, I I appreciate

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your comments in the fact that you were

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already thinking about um mitigation

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efforts uh however slight. So, um, your

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answer gives me great, um, confidence.

477
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Thank you.

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» Thank you,

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» Commissioner Murphy.

480
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:54,320
» Yes, I I appreciate your your response

481
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,760
as well. Um, you mentioned, I think,

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three items. Signal phasing,

483
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striping, and left possibly squeezing in

484
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840
a left turn lane. Were you on the left

485
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turning lane? Were you referring to

486
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Camrio

487
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Center Drive to access these projects?

488
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:13,600
Yes, that' be uh Cam Center Drive. Uh we

489
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,840
would

490
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,679
we would really need to I I was trying

491
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,600
to draw it out a little earlier to see

492
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:22,480
how how it would fit. We might be able

493
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to fit like a a twocar left turn pocket

494
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in there. We may need to reduce the

495
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,720
existing by a few feet, but it'll be

496
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pretty close. But but that's the thing

497
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,000
that so when they submit that we'll take

498
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,520
a look at that striping plan and see

499
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:38,640
what we can do and and try to maximize

500
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uh that queuing areas to turn into that

501
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,840
driveway.

502
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,760
» I see. And will that be their striping

503
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plan or just that the city working with

504
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480
the applicant to

505
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,320
» It's part of the conditions that they

506
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,679
submit that to us and then we'll review

507
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,200
it and then we can modify as needed.

508
00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:55,520
» All right. Thank you. That's great.

509
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,840
» Sure.

510
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,720
» Okay. Seeing no further questions, uh,

511
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,640
I'll open it up to the, um, public. Do

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any community members have, um, any

513
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:08,600
comments to share with the commission,

514
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,600
including the applicant?

515
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:14,640
Okay, seeing none, um, we'll close the

516
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public hearing and this item's open for

517
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,919
discussion.

518
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:21,840
Um,

519
00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:24,399
I didn't

520
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,640
really have um, any too much as far as

521
00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:30,960
discussions. Um, and one thing I did

522
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,559
notice, um, on that culde-sac, because I

523
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,799
parked right on that culde-sac to look

524
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,640
at the lot, there was a gate going in to

525
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,600
the road that runs behind or down to the

526
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,960
motel and along the back of the mobile

527
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,399
home park.

528
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,399
» So, I don't know if that has something

529
00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:46,720
to do with, you know, a the ability to

530
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:50,279
use that culde-sac for, you know,

531
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,279
getting in and out.

532
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,360
» So,

533
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,720
» Any other comments? No other comments.

534
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840
» Okay. And do we have an architectural

535
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,640
review report?

536
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,559
» Um, we do have an architectural review.

537
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,480
We did look at it. We really like the

538
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:08,480
design. Um, we did I had some

539
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,120
discussions or I had a concern and we

540
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,000
had some discussions on the color tones.

541
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Um, that maybe in the future they might

542
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,760
consider going more towards a taupe or

543
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,320
gray to fit in more with the colors

544
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,720
around. But um applicants did state that

545
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,279
this was like their standard color for

546
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,279
that company. Um but it is totally

547
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:33,840
different than anything in the area. So

548
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:35,919
our recommendation is that we are

549
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,760
approving it but hoping that in the

550
00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:40,880
future they can have some discussions on

551
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,120
the color.

552
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,480
» And I think the applicant mentioned that

553
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,399
they're fairly locked into those colors.

554
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,679
And correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah.

555
00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:55,919
Um we we did talk about instead of the

556
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:59,120
darker the the grays um the term grayge

557
00:29:55,919 --> 00:30:00,159
came up combination of of gray and beige

558
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,000
obviously.

559
00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:06,240
» Um um so we would again

560
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,880
» Encourage some reconsideration along

561
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,679
those lines but it's it's not a deal

562
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,120
breaker for us. Thank you.

563
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:15,360
» Any questions for the architecture

564
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,520
review committee? I did have comment.

565
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,000
Staff said um regarding the public art

566
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,240
requirement and that that the what was

567
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,960
provided was kind of just generally

568
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,799
represented and that it would be brought

569
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,559
back and staff would approve that. Is

570
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:31,919
that did I hear that correctly? And is

571
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:33,919
that I thought hearkening back to to

572
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:35,760
past ones, it was the architectural

573
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:38,240
committee that sort of put the final on

574
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,080
the on the actual art or at least the a

575
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,760
pretty close rendering. So I'm wondering

576
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,679
if there was a change there.

577
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,120
» Uh you would be correct. it would come

578
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:45,840
back to planning commission for

579
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,480
approval.

580
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,919
» I I

581
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,720
» I think I may have been a little

582
00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,559
confusing when I said my

583
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,440
» Hearing aids don't work. So,

584
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:51,760
» Thank you.

585
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,520
» Yeah,

586
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,760
» That was my only question. Thank you.

587
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,600
» Yes, we do expect this to come back when

588
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,159
they get to I believe it was said the

589
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,720
second phase for the building.

590
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,679
» Thank you.

591
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,000
» So, okay, makes sense. Great. Thank you.

592
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:05,760
» Correct.

593
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,679
» I just had a question. I know it's near

594
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,440
the freeway, so it's within the heritage

595
00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:11,919
zone. Did the architectural review

596
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,840
committee compare that to what the

597
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:15,840
heritage zone requirements are?

598
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,600
» Yeah, we did look as as far as they they

599
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,360
put in the arches, they put in grow

600
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,880
work, they put in some things to even

601
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,080
though it does have a more modern look

602
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,720
to it. Mhm.

603
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:28,240
» Um they did put in some touches that

604
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,279
bring it into uh code for meeting those

605
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640
designs

606
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:31,840
» Because the architectural review

607
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,200
committee I don't think requires

608
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,720
necessarily the Spanish style but it

609
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,720
» Requires just an enhancement because

610
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,039
it's in the visual corridor as we

611
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,159
» Right

612
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,640
» Pass through Camrio.

613
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:44,799
» Yeah. So it it I mean the heritage, you

614
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,039
know, does have specific

615
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,640
architectural designs that it has to be

616
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,559
in line with.

617
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,279
» And I know when I first looked at it, it

618
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:57,919
looked really like more modern than

619
00:31:53,279 --> 00:32:01,440
Spanish Mediter Medit Mediterranean um

620
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:04,640
or the things on the list. But yet by

621
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,440
the time they did go to the to um put in

622
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,799
the arches and soften it or put in the

623
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,159
different characteristics going around

624
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:14,159
the building that kind of brings it into

625
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:15,919
um that category

626
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:19,760
» And we do have to look at looking at

627
00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:20,480
maybe modernizing the characteristics a

628
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320
little bit

629
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,320
» You know at times. So

630
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,399
» Okay thank you. you know, and on the

631
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,080
color, we did we did acknowledge that

632
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:31,840
there are more grays going in like in

633
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,399
the um industrial areas and different

634
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,840
areas of construction along the freeway

635
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:39,679
area or even off of the freeway area. Um

636
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,399
but yet when you drive around the

637
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:44,720
outlets, it's not, you know, very

638
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:45,200
predominant there.

639
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,200
» Thank you.

640
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200
» So,

641
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:54,200
» Okay, hearing no further discussion. Is

642
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,200
there a motion on this item?

643
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,240
You'll make a motion for approval.

644
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:03,760
» I'll second.

645
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,600
» Can you please call for a vote?

646
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320
» Commissioner Vanderm,

647
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
» Yes.

648
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,240
» Commissioner Murphy,

649
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,679
» Yes.

650
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,159
» Commissioner Edsil,

651
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:11,600
» Yes.

652
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,080
» Vice Chair Davidson,

653
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,200
» Yes.

654
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,760
» Chair Leone,

655
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,919
» Yes.

656
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,240
» Okay. And the motion passes. And the the

657
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:22,799
next item on the agenda is related to

658
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,320
the one we just heard, item D. with um C

659
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:27,760
CPD259,

660
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,840
the quick quack car wash, uh which will

661
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,760
also begin with the staff presentation.

662
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,559
» Thank you, Chair Leone. Uh this item

663
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,799
will be presented again by associate

664
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:38,799
planner Serena Gonzalez.

665
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,880
» Yeah, apologies if anything sounds

666
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:43,519
repetitive. It's a lot of the same

667
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:48,080
information. Uh so this one will be for

668
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:52,720
CPD 259 at Quickquack Car Wash. Um this

669
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:54,799
is a request made by Don Shiveley um on

670
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,559
behalf of Quickquack to construct a

671
00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:01,120
3,588

672
00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:04,559
square foot car wash on 59,810

673
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,559
square ft of a vacant 2.79 acre lot

674
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:09,520
located at the corner of Ventura

675
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,960
Boulevard and Camaro Center Drive. The

676
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,359
project site has a general plan

677
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,200
designation of commercial and zoning

678
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:16,720
designation of commercial planned

679
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,200
development.

680
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:21,919
To the north of the site will be the

681
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Rove project as previously discussed as

682
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:28,560
well as Ventura Boulevard. To the east,

683
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:32,240
that motel and then the mobile home park

684
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:34,000
to the south um the portion of the

685
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:37,599
outlets and then also the other portion

686
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:41,440
of the outlets to the west.

687
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:44,720
the site vacant as we have discovered.

688
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Um it had those two previous projects

689
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:49,040
for the automobile repair center and the

690
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,639
AAA building approved, never

691
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,159
constructed.

692
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:56,320
Um

693
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:59,200
here you can see the site plan. Um cars

694
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,960
will come in off of Camaro Center Drive.

695
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:05,839
um go in through this long driveway that

696
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,280
has about 5,000 square feet of queuing

697
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:11,359
area with a double lane. Um that greatly

698
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,520
exceeds their requirement for queuing.

699
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:16,000
Um they are only required about 2,000

700
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,760
square ft. Um as their uh peak

701
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:23,280
operational number is 41 cars per hour.

702
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,079
Um, so hopefully that will uh prevent

703
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,240
any cars from queuing into Camaro Center

704
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:31,200
Drive so we don't have any um traffic

705
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,839
back up from the project specifically.

706
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,839
Um,

707
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:40,160
sorry.

708
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:42,560
The project also um proposes three

709
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,599
parking spaces for employees which is

710
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:49,920
compliant with code stating that uh

711
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:53,119
there is one spot required per employee

712
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,440
um at the largest amount of um employees

713
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:58,800
required per shift. Um, there will also

714
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,480
be 10 spaces as you can see here and

715
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:05,119
here that will be for uh cars that are

716
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,000
going to vacuum and utilize those vacuum

717
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:10,160
and um other cleaning products that they

718
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,880
have for the insides of the car post

719
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,000
coming out of the car wash. Um the car

720
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,560
wash you exit after going through the

721
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,079
tunnel and then through that area here

722
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:24,960
for vacuuming onto this middle road

723
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:28,160
right here. Um this area as I mentioned

724
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,359
before um there is a loading zone. So

725
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,960
there will be a little loading zone

726
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:33,680
there that's shared between the two

727
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,760
projects. Um and then their trash

728
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,240
enclosure for this project is right

729
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,640
here. Um when the cars exit, they'll go

730
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:43,640
past here and back out onto Camo Center

731
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Drive.

732
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:53,280
Here you can see um this is the

733
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,160
sorry north and south elevation. You can

734
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,160
see that they included some stone veneer

735
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,079
along the bottom and then up the sides

736
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,079
of the building. Here there's some

737
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:05,920
different massing to break up the

738
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:09,280
elevation and um different accents on

739
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:12,640
the windows and along the parapit roof

740
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,640
line um in order to add some more visual

741
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,119
interest to the building. Those same

742
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,320
types of architectural features can be

743
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:23,440
seen throughout that south

744
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,839
um elevation. And then here you can see

745
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,400
both the entrance to the tunnel and the

746
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:30,400
exit. Um there will be some signage that

747
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,760
community development will review and

748
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:37,040
approve at a later time. Um and you can

749
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,839
see here that there is this beigy orange

750
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,320
color that is used um that ties in well

751
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:45,040
with the earth tone requirement of the

752
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,839
heritage zone. Um, here's a better kind

753
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,839
of view of the materials being used. You

754
00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:52,720
can see the different stone in the stone

755
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:54,480
veneer, the stucco for the walls, and

756
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:58,160
then those different accent colors

757
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:01,119
along. Um,

758
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,880
oh, I guess I didn't include, and I

759
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:05,280
showed this in the architectural review,

760
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,880
I forgot to put in the canopies, but um,

761
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:11,359
there will also be canopies that you can

762
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:15,280
see on the site plan here. Um those

763
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:17,839
canopies will be of

764
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,079
um the more brown color and they will

765
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:22,960
also have um trash cans throughout that

766
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:24,880
are disguised in a little orange ball.

767
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,960
So that way um you can't really see it

768
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,440
from anywhere except for right under

769
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,400
those canopies.

770
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,839
Um,

771
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,000
and this is going to sound probably

772
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:38,240
exactly like the last presentation, but

773
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,960
uh, Parker Environmental prepared a

774
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:43,920
single class 32 um, categorical

775
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:47,520
exemption report. Um,

776
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,119
and this report was for both projects.

777
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,119
The combined analysis confirmed that

778
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:53,200
neither project triggers any exceptions

779
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:55,280
to the exemption. and there are no

780
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,200
unusual circumstances, cumulative

781
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,760
impacts or significant effects related

782
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,400
to traffic, air quality, noise or

783
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,400
biological resources. The project is

784
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,200
fully served by existing infrastructure.

785
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,560
There are no sensitive habitats um and

786
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,720
air quality was a key consideration. Um

787
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,880
there they will be below Ventura

788
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:20,400
County's threshold of 25 lbs per day of

789
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,560
um nitrogen oxides at around 22 pounds

790
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,800
per day. As I mentioned before, it's

791
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:29,119
really important to keep note that that

792
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:32,000
is a countywide project um threshold,

793
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:34,160
not the project specific. So,

794
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,320
it would really need to be all projects

795
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,599
in the county to really make a huge

796
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,960
impact on neighboring residential uses

797
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:45,680
um and just overall air quality.

798
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Um there was also, as mentioned before,

799
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:53,200
um a noise study that was done. The

800
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,560
noise study was done for both sites. So,

801
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:00,800
the um project will only put out about

802
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:05,160
49 dB during the day and 38 at night um

803
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,160
which is below the city's limits.

804
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,079
Staff recommends that the commission

805
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,280
find the project qualifies for a class

806
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:15,920
32 categorical exemption pursuant to

807
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,320
section 15332 of the California

808
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Environmental Quality Act guidelines and

809
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,800
that they adopt a resolution approving

810
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,359
CBD 259 subject to the recommended

811
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,800
conditions of approval. And that's it

812
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:31,599
for this one. Thank you.

813
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:35,839
» Great. Thank you. Um any questions for

814
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:38,160
the staff? I don't

815
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:41,359
» I don't Commissioner Murphy, your turn.

816
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,920
» I just have one. Um, this has to do with

817
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:46,560
the entry for the project, which is the

818
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,680
entry for both projects. Will the

819
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:54,720
striping plan

820
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:59,599
um have a prohibitive bar or a signage

821
00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:02,480
that encourages folks to not block the

822
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:05,839
entryway or the intersection?

823
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,560
um as especially during the holiday

824
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:10,880
season.

825
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,119
» Uh thank you, Commissioner Murphy. Yes.

826
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Uh we we can go ahead and look at that

827
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:19,200
and uh we when we look at the striping

828
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:22,160
plan, we can add that in there. And

829
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,440
during the holidays, we can make those

830
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,119
type of changes. And as things go and we

831
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
we start to see these type of things

832
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:32,319
happen, we can make modifications as

833
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:35,040
needed. Add additional signage and and

834
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:36,800
other striping changes if we need to.

835
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,839
» That sounds good. See what's working as

836
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,920
it as it goes.

837
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:42,319
» Exactly. We'll get a better idea of how

838
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:47,079
everything's operating.

839
00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:47,079
» All right. Thank you. That's it for me.

840
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,200
» Is it called quick quack? Okay.

841
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,079
Quickquack. Is that a chain of of um

842
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,480
» Yes, it is.

843
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:55,040
» Okay.

844
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,560
» Yeah.

845
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,920
» Do we know what their logo looks like? I

846
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,560
know that might seem a little silly, but

847
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,319
is are we talking like a 75 ft duck or

848
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,160
are we talking a

849
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:06,000
» Um you know what what's going to be

850
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,920
emlazed on these buildings?

851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,760
» It will not be a 75 foot duck. We've

852
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,720
talked to them about it already. Okay,

853
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,800
good. It will look like normal signage.

854
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,960
It will look like a duck, but it won't

855
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,240
be anything egregious, so don't worry.

856
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,000
» No, it's good. It's just that whole

857
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,839
area, especially with the development of

858
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,440
the convention center that's going on,

859
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:25,760
it's been very thoughtfully done. The

860
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,560
tones are nice. The signage is is kind

861
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,079
of demure. And so I just when you hear

862
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Quick Quack, that's great. It's catchy.

863
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,960
And I and I love the, you know, I love

864
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,720
it. But um I just would hope that we

865
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,880
don't suddenly have a thumb sticking out

866
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,560
of

867
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,960
I think everybody hears where I'm going.

868
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,720
» Don't worry. It it will not be a giant

869
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,599
duck sticking out. I have seen other

870
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:49,440
cookwacks. I was in Utah in October. Um,

871
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,160
some of the other ones are a little bit

872
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,319
more brightly decorated. Um, but we did

873
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,760
our best to make sure that this one fit

874
00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:56,880
within the heritage zone and didn't

875
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,400
really stand out.

876
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,560
» Thank you.

877
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000
» Is is there a rendering of this duck

878
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,240
that we can see or is this part of the

879
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,680
architecture review committee?

880
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:10,800
» Um, we do not have one readily available

881
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:14,240
right now. Um, I believe in a previous

882
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,599
submitt we did have one, but I could

883
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,200
email it to you at another time if you

884
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,560
wanted to take a look.

885
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,960
» I would be interested actually. Thank

886
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,960
you.

887
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,960
» Yeah.

888
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,480
» Nothing else,

889
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,480
» Commissioner. Okay. I don't have any

890
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,920
questions either. So, this is a time for

891
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,520
any committee members who would like to

892
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,520
speak to this item to come forward.

893
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,520
We received one public comment from

894
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:40,520
Steve Deo.

895
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,760
» Mr. Deo, please state your full name.

896
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:48,560
Um, for the record, you have three

897
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,160
minutes to speak.

898
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,880
» Good evening, commissioners. My name is

899
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Steve Duboce. I'm a me resident of

900
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Camrio for almost 10 years.

901
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:03,440
Um, with regards to

902
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,680
the Quickquack, um, a quick count shows

903
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,720
we have already way more than a half a

904
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,960
dozen car washes in Camaro.

905
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:12,960
Um, I know the newest one is over on

906
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Daily Drive. I've used it myself a

907
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,400
couple of times. It's never full. I've

908
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:21,119
never driven by there and seen cars

909
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,480
queued outside of that lot or even full

910
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:26,800
up to the road.

911
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,400
My math might be a little bit off, but I

912
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,079
believe California has been in drought

913
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,800
conditions for at least 12 out of the

914
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:35,920
last 15 years. Why are we approving

915
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,000
another high water use project when

916
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,280
there's the area is already more than

917
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,800
well enough served by existing

918
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,119
um

919
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,720
commercial assets.

920
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,960
Um,

921
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:51,520
I I don't know if this is the first time

922
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,280
you've heard this project or not, but

923
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,000
not none of you asked any questions

924
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,280
about the water use. Where's the water

925
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,480
coming from? Are they pumping it out of

926
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,680
the aquifer? Are they piping it in?

927
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,880
What are they going to do with the

928
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,839
chemical laden water that's left over?

929
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Is it going to be re reused, recycled to

930
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:12,800
be used again? Is it just being dumped?

931
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,800
I'm sure there are regulations governing

932
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,119
cleaning it up depending on where it's

933
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,040
going to go. And again, I don't know if

934
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,640
you heard this project before, but I'm

935
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,920
I'm surprised that none of these

936
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,480
questions were asked. Um,

937
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,040
there was a noise study done. Was there

938
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,520
a water use study done? How much water

939
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,079
is this thing going to use?

940
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,760
I really strongly urge you to deny this

941
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:38,000
use

942
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,880
in California. We don't need more high

943
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,119
water uses like a car wash. There's

944
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,440
plenty already available. Thank you very

945
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:47,040
much.

946
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,319
» Thank you. Any other members of the

947
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,319
public who would like to address this

948
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:51,319
item?

949
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,359
» My name is Don Shiveley. I represent

950
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,800
Quickquack in this.

951
00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:02,079
» If you haven't already, please fill out

952
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,480
a a card after your you complete your

953
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:04,560
comments.

954
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,319
» As the applicant, I still need to fill

955
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,040
out a card.

956
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:10,960
Oh, no. I'm Oh, I apologize. Okay. No,

957
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
you do not. Can you please start again?

958
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,400
» So, I I'm just here to answer any

959
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,880
questions that you may have um

960
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,640
concerning our car wash project.

961
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,319
» Thank you.

962
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,599
» Any questions for the applicant?

963
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:24,560
Commissioner Murphy.

964
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:27,119
» Right. So, the question um had to do

965
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,599
with uh signage or anything that you

966
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:32,400
might have on the site that attracts

967
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:34,160
customers to Quickquack

968
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,760
uh facility. What what are your

969
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,480
intentions along those lines?

970
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,119
» I'm glad you asked. It's a 45 ft duck,

971
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,520
not a 75 ft duck. Great on there.

972
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:47,200
» Now, our our mascot is a duck. We play

973
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:50,319
on our name, Quick Quack. And uh we have

974
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,400
tasteful signage. We have it on 300 um

975
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:55,200
car washes that we have throughout the

976
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,119
Western United States. And uh it's

977
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,319
signage that we work with the community

978
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:02,880
on. And uh it's our branding,

979
00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:04,800
» But it's very tasteful. we put up a

980
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,440
rendering or a picture. I'm not sure

981
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:11,599
exactly if it's a

982
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:13,760
» Location. Um, also just for your guys's

983
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:15,760
information, um, we have not reviewed

984
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,680
the specific signage. So, it will come

985
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,160
in and it will adhere to our signage

986
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,040
regulations before we approve it. So, it

987
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,560
will not be anything that wouldn't be

988
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,880
normally approved.

989
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:30,319
» That's our prototype right there. And so

990
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,640
we've softened our prototype colors um

991
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:36,079
and worked with the uh planning staff

992
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,599
for the current design.

993
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:41,720
» Okay. Thank you. That's very helpful

994
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,720
that that graphic that

995
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:47,599
» Any questions for that.

996
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:49,280
» Yes. Um so

997
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,200
um without addressing specifically any

998
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,520
public comments um it is my

999
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,440
understanding that water conservation

1000
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,280
especially in in car washes in

1001
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,839
California are held to a pretty high

1002
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,640
standard. And it's my understanding that

1003
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:04,480
car washes actually tend to use less

1004
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,400
water than say restaurants and things

1005
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,000
like that of of a similar size

1006
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,400
especially with water drops. I know here

1007
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,599
in town it um they use actually less

1008
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,760
water than the or forgive me at Denny's

1009
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,280
I believe that was there prior. Um can

1010
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,280
you speak to that a little bit? I think

1011
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,560
it would do the the community well to

1012
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160
hear that um

1013
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,319
» While California does a good job of

1014
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,079
requiring very strict use of water. It

1015
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:27,599
would be nice to sort of refresh our and

1016
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:29,280
the the community's understanding of

1017
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:31,760
what we might have taken for granted and

1018
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,680
I I do appreciate the commenters um

1019
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040
bringing that and and calling us on

1020
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,920
that. So thank you.

1021
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:40,240
» Sure. I appreciate that. Um the the

1022
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,839
misconception is is that we leave the

1023
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,680
water running all day long and that's

1024
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:45,599
not the case. If I don't have any

1025
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,280
customers show up that day because I

1026
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,040
have too much competition and they're

1027
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,440
going somewhere else. I don't use any

1028
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,000
water at all. The only water that would

1029
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,920
happen would be on the landscaping that

1030
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,160
you're requiring us to put into it.

1031
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,359
Otherwise, we don't use any water. What

1032
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,119
we do do is we conserve water. And what

1033
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:05,440
we're doing is we're taking it from your

1034
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:08,000
residents that are washing their cars on

1035
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,800
their driveway. They're running 100

1036
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,119
gallons of water down the driveway into

1037
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,160
the storm drains out to the ocean. What

1038
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:19,520
we do is we conserve that water. We save

1039
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,079
it by about 40%. We use about 60 gallons

1040
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,160
of water and part of that most of that

1041
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:27,359
is actually recycled water that we

1042
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:30,079
capture from our car wash process. So,

1043
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:33,920
we are in the process of recycling that

1044
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:35,839
water, reusing it, and using it back on

1045
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,800
our customers.

1046
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:39,839
» Thank you,

1047
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,319
» Commissioner Murphy.

1048
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:41,520
» Go ahead.

1049
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:43,119
» I was going to say, so if you're

1050
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,200
recycling it, then does it go through a

1051
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,280
filter system on the way around or

1052
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,760
» Yes, we go through several settling

1053
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,000
tanks within the that's underground in

1054
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,520
our facility and it gets recycled, taken

1055
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,079
out the impurities and it comes back

1056
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,079
through osmosis into our car wash. Okay.

1057
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,800
» Yeah, that's great about the the

1058
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:09,040
recycling on the wastewater. Another one

1059
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:12,000
of Mr. Duboce's concerns.

1060
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Is it going directly to the sanitary

1061
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,359
sewer system? The discharge from the

1062
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,119
site when you're can't recycle it any

1063
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:20,559
further. Does it go directly to the

1064
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,400
sanitary sewer system?

1065
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:25,520
» That's correct. we will go back through

1066
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,920
into the sewer system and it is recycled

1067
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,920
at that point.

1068
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:34,800
» Okay. So, some of the water eventually

1069
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,280
leaves the the site, right? And so, does

1070
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,480
that

1071
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,119
» We can't capture all of it.

1072
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,559
» Dorm drain, but does that go into this?

1073
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,920
» Not the storm drain. That'll go into

1074
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:46,440
your sewer line.

1075
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,440
» Okay, that's great. Thank you.

1076
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:51,440
» Any other questions? Okay. Thank you.

1077
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:54,160
any other member of the public who would

1078
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,240
like to address this item?

1079
00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:00,240
I I'll note that we did receive a public

1080
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:02,400
comment via um uh email or

1081
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:04,800
electronically and this was for the

1082
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,000
previous item and this item as well

1083
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,000
regarding uh traffic concerns um and

1084
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,200
there have been questions and responses

1085
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,920
to um that effect.

1086
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,440
Okay. So, um, seeing no further public

1087
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,480
comments, I now close a public hearing

1088
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,480
and open it up for discussion.

1089
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,720
If you want the architectural comments

1090
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:31,480
first or after discussions

1091
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:31,480
» After discussion. Okay. Thank you.

1092
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,720
» Uh, no, I have nothing. Thank you.

1093
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Appreciate it.

1094
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:44,160
Yeah, I think that the comments from

1095
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Cammy Pinsac are are important and it

1096
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,200
sounds to to me like the city is is on

1097
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,040
it and that that they will uh in

1098
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:56,000
combination with the applicant do what

1099
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:59,520
they can to to address the the traffic

1100
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:02,000
concerns. um particularly those around

1101
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:05,200
the the holiday season and make some

1102
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,520
possible adjustments to traffic phasing

1103
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,040
and and and striping and and signing.

1104
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,280
So,

1105
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,599
» I appreciate that.

1106
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,480
» Yeah, I I did enjoy um all the

1107
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:18,079
conversations on the traffic control and

1108
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,079
that I feel they're going to keep an eye

1109
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:22,880
on it and change as needed, you know,

1110
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:25,040
once it gets into play. And I also like

1111
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,200
to hear that the water is recycled and

1112
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,200
going down through into the systems and

1113
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,599
then it just becomes recycled water to

1114
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,400
be used again throughout the city. So

1115
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:36,720
that sounds satisfactory on both of

1116
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,880
those issues.

1117
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,680
» And it's my understanding that the the

1118
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,680
conditions that were um some of which

1119
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,240
were outlined

1120
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,960
for the actual permit that um those can

1121
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:51,599
be reviewed at future date. Even if we

1122
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,720
we approve today, those conditions can

1123
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:56,880
be modified to address any further the

1124
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:59,040
future concerns.

1125
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,760
Is that that's correct?

1126
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,079
» Yes.

1127
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,359
» Okay.

1128
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,520
» Thank you.

1129
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:05,760
» Okay. Um if there's no further

1130
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,200
discussion, uh we will now hear from the

1131
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,880
architectural review committee

1132
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,640
» And we did review this and uh we are me

1133
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,319
recommending approval on it. We liked

1134
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,240
all of the variations on the ins and

1135
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:19,200
outs and the roof lines and the

1136
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:21,680
different materials used and there is

1137
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,520
still going to be a question. It's going

1138
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,800
to have to be watched on the traffic

1139
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,400
that goes around, but that doesn't have

1140
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,760
anything to do with the architectural

1141
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,400
part of it.

1142
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,480
» So, we um are recommending that that go

1143
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,359
forward as is.

1144
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,680
» And you did a question um you did not

1145
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:39,440
include in your review a review of the

1146
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,240
logo itself and

1147
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,720
» No, we did not

1148
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:46,079
» The placement and size. That's right. We

1149
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:50,240
did wonder why the art requirement did

1150
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:53,040
not exist for this when it did exist for

1151
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:56,960
the application next door, the other one

1152
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,359
that we reviewed tonight. But um this

1153
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:03,200
facility will be further away from the

1154
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:06,000
major viewsheds of of the streets. Um,

1155
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,760
and also part of

1156
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,200
the requirement for the first

1157
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:14,640
application that we reviewed was to to

1158
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:17,280
um get some some more earth tones, more

1159
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:21,839
beiges and yellows and so forth in there

1160
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:24,640
to to to help address the concern of it

1161
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:28,240
that um those buildings being

1162
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,000
essentially light and dark gray.

1163
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,720
» Thank you.

1164
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Any questions for the committee? And one

1165
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:36,880
of the other comments that staff made as

1166
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,040
far as the art feature was that this

1167
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,160
building had quite a lot of texture to

1168
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,240
it and different types of materials and

1169
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,400
colors that were throughout. So they

1170
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:49,440
didn't feel that that also added into

1171
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,240
not needing an additional art feature.

1172
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,480
Okay. Thank you.

1173
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:57,040
Okay. Is there a motion on this item?

1174
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:00,000
» I'll make a motion to approve.

1175
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,760
» Is there a second?

1176
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,599
» I'll second.

1177
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,720
Thank you. And um can you please call

1178
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:06,400
for a vote?

1179
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,880
» Commissioner Vanderm,

1180
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,079
» Yes.

1181
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,640
» Commissioner Murphy,

1182
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:09,920
» Yes.

1183
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,400
» Commissioner Edsil,

1184
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,760
» Yes.

1185
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,160
» Vice Chair Davidson,

1186
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,280
» Yes.

1187
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,640
» Chair Leone,

1188
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,280
» Yes.

1189
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:21,680
» Okay. And the motion passes.

1190
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:23,280
Okay. Um and now our next item is a

1191
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,640
black presentation.

1192
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,960
» I get to step in now. So, um, at this

1193
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:32,000
time of year, each year, we, um, we take

1194
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,680
a moment to show our appreciation and to

1195
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,400
celebrate the year that we had with our

1196
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,160
chair. And, um, this year, it falls to

1197
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,119
me to be able to, uh, present you with

1198
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:44,079
that token of our appreciation. And as I

1199
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:46,240
was um thinking about that today, I've I

1200
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:51,119
was uh hearkening back to the to the

1201
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:53,680
year and um sort of what defined your um

1202
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:55,440
assuming the role of chairperson and and

1203
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,160
it was grace was the word that came to

1204
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:01,359
mind. And it was um as I thought about

1205
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,720
the the moments of of maybe tension in

1206
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:05,040
the room and things like that, it was

1207
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:08,720
always your your grace and style and

1208
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:11,440
kindness that um that always uh I left

1209
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:13,839
the room appreciating. And uh you have a

1210
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:17,680
way of making uh people on both sides of

1211
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:20,880
an argument feel heard and respected and

1212
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:23,599
um and and I believe that uh that will

1213
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,839
be a legacy that um that each of us can

1214
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:27,520
take. We're lucky to have a a very good

1215
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:29,440
commission that gets along well and I

1216
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,880
think that you are sort of an exponent

1217
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,599
at the end of that equation that just

1218
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,000
makes it that much better. So, um that

1219
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:38,880
being said, um I would like to on behalf

1220
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,440
of everyone u the city of Camaro and my

1221
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:45,040
fellow commissioners present you with u

1222
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,480
a gavvel recognizing your time and uh

1223
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,960
showing our appreciation for all that

1224
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,880
you've done.

1225
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:53,000
» Thank you. Thank you very much.

1226
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,000
Appreciate it. Thank you everyone.

1227
00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:59,200
Um, Vice Chair Davidson, I very much

1228
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,280
appreciate your kind words. It's um,

1229
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:05,280
very thoughtful and this has been this

1230
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:07,359
year went by very quickly. Um, and I

1231
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,040
very much appreciate the opportunity to

1232
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:12,000
have served in this position. It's been

1233
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,760
a privilege and I um, have my my

1234
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,079
appreciation for the role of the

1235
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,400
commission. Um, all of your volunteer

1236
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:21,119
time as commissioners and the expertise

1237
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,280
and work of the staff has only grown.

1238
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:25,520
Um, and I've it's been a a learning

1239
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,839
process for me as well. And I've I've

1240
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:31,040
also uh really appreciated the role of

1241
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:34,319
the community in contributing to our

1242
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:37,119
discussions, bringing um opinions and

1243
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:38,960
and thoughts and requests to us that add

1244
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:41,359
to the richness of our our own

1245
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,599
deliberations as happened here tonight.

1246
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:45,280
So, um again, it's been a privilege and

1247
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:47,440
I look forward to continuing to work

1248
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,559
with you on the commission as I step

1249
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,280
down from the role.

1250
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:51,359
» Thank you.

1251
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,920
» Thank you.

1252
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:57,520
Okay. And so now we get to reorganize

1253
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:00,480
the commission. Um, and this consists of

1254
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,720
a of a process for nominations for the

1255
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,319
next chair and vice chair. Will the

1256
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,400
secretary please explain the

1257
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:08,400
reorganization process?

1258
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,319
» Sure. The reorganization of the planning

1259
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,000
commission includes selecting a new

1260
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:16,799
chair, vice chair, and members to serve

1261
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,799
on the architectural committee.

1262
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:21,440
Nominations will be open for the chair

1263
00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:23,839
and vice chair. If more than one

1264
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,000
commissioner is nominated, we will vote

1265
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:28,799
in the order the nominations were

1266
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,359
received. Once all nominations are

1267
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:34,400
received, Chair Leone will ask for a

1268
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:37,359
motion to close nominations and we will

1269
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,599
proceed to a vote. If multiple

1270
00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:42,640
commissioners are nominated, we will

1271
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:44,799
hold separate votes for each and the

1272
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,200
commissioner with majority vote will

1273
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:50,640
serve and the same process will be

1274
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:53,359
followed for vice chair. Anyone who is

1275
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:56,079
nominated but does not wish to serve may

1276
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:58,640
simply decline the nomination.

1277
00:58:56,079 --> 00:59:00,880
After the chair is selected, the chair

1278
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:03,200
will have the discretion to select

1279
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,400
members of the commission to serve on

1280
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:10,079
the architectural review committee.

1281
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:12,720
Um, are there any questions?

1282
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:15,280
» Any questions? No questions. Thank you.

1283
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Okay, we'll proceed with the um office

1284
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,319
of the chair. Are there any nominations?

1285
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,240
» Yes. I would like to nominate Rob

1286
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:22,880
Davidson, our vice chair, to be

1287
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,880
chairman.

1288
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,280
» I'll second.

1289
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,720
» Right. Any other nominations?

1290
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,480
» Is we make a motion to close

1291
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,359
close the nominations?

1292
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,640
» Is there a second motion to close?

1293
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:38,480
Second.

1294
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,359
» Oh,

1295
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,119
» Not really.

1296
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:43,359
» I'll second.

1297
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:46,000
Okay. We have a nomination of vice

1298
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:48,000
chair, current vice chair Davidson, uh,

1299
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,960
for chair. Will you please call for a

1300
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,559
vote, Secretary?

1301
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,040
» Commissioner Vanderm,

1302
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,319
» Yes.

1303
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,720
» Commissioner Murphy,

1304
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:56,000
» Yes.

1305
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,480
» Commissioner Edso,

1306
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,920
» Yes.

1307
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,440
» Vice Chair Davidson,

1308
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,799
» Why not?

1309
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,000
» Chair Leone,

1310
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:06,319
» Yes. And the motion carries. And we now

1311
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,280
have a new chair. Congratulations, Chair

1312
01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:10,440
Davidson.

1313
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,440
» Thank you.

1314
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,839
» Okay, we will now move on to the office

1315
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,520
of vice chair. Are there nominations for

1316
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:22,000
this position?

1317
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,040
» I'll nominate Director Murphy. Mer

1318
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,359
Murphy.

1319
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,680
» I'll second that nomination.

1320
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:31,520
» Any other nominations?

1321
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:34,319
Is there a motion to close?

1322
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,240
» Motion to close. I'll second.

1323
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:38,240
» Great. All right, let's move forward

1324
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:41,720
with uh uh Secretary, can you please

1325
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,720
call for a vote?

1326
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,160
» Commissioner Vanderm,

1327
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:45,359
» Yes.

1328
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,240
» Commissioner Murphy,

1329
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:47,839
» Why not?

1330
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,319
» Commissioner Edel,

1331
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:49,680
» Yes.

1332
01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:51,200
» Vice Chair Davidson,

1333
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,559
» Enthusiastically, yes.

1334
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,040
» Chair Leone,

1335
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:57,119
» Absolutely. Great. And that motion

1336
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,640
carries. And so we have a new Vice Chair

1337
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:01,640
Murphy. Thank you very much for

1338
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,640
accepting.

1339
01:01:03,359 --> 01:01:05,680
I think you take it from here, don't

1340
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,400
you?

1341
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,799
» Yes. And now we we move chairs, right?

1342
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,280
Like

1343
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:11,680
» Do we

1344
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,200
» Literally Yes, we literally move chairs,

1345
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,119
I believe. Is that right? Because then

1346
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,799
we proceed with the architecture

1347
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:19,359
committee which is appointed by the new

1348
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:20,160
» We can do review committee.

1349
01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:21,200
» Yeah.

1350
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,160
» With the review committee.

1351
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,160
» Oh, we have we still have to do

1352
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,839
architectural review.

1353
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,240
» Okay. But that's selected by the new

1354
01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:28,160
chair.

1355
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,760
» Oh, okay.

1356
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,599
» So that's you.

1357
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,880
» Okay. I'll just stay here and we'll

1358
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,440
we'll move.

1359
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,480
» Yes. Okay.

1360
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,559
» Our new chair will

1361
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,160
» I'll assume the

1362
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:41,359
» Yeah the the selection of

1363
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,760
» The selection of the architectural

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01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:45,760
review committee is by the new chair.

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,720
» Okay. So is uh do we have any members

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,119
who first before um any selection do we

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:54,160
have anyone who is um interested in

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01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:58,160
volunteering to take on or continue in

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:02:00,079
the role on the architectural committee?

1370
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,680
» Okay. Thank you for that and I would uh

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01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,359
I would absolutely support your

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01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,559
remaining on it. So, thank you for that.

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01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:06,640
Okay, there's one

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01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:08,480
» And I guess I can do it. Yeah.

1375
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,880
» Okay, perfect. So, it sounds like we

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01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:14,400
have two architectural um committee

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:17,280
members selected and um so Commissioner

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01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:20,480
Vanderm and uh Commissioner Edsil will

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01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:22,079
make up that committee.

1380
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,440
» Thank you.

1381
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:28,240
» Okay. And the next um item is commission

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01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:31,359
uh director report.

1383
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,280
» Uh the only item I had for you tonight

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01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:35,920
is just a reminder that we have the

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:39,119
planning commissioners academy coming up

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01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:42,400
on March 11th through March 13th in

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01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:45,599
Anaheim. So our admin team will be

1388
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:50,000
coordinating with each of you um to

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01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:52,880
arrange your registration and um travel

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,040
for that. And then right after this

1391
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:58,319
meeting is adjourned, we do have

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:00,720
refreshments uh just to uh say thank

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01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:04,000
you, Chair Leone, for your service and

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01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,839
then bringing on Chair Davidson as our

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,559
new chair.

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01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:07,920
» Very good.

1397
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,760
» Great. Thank you.

1398
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,680
» Thank you.

1399
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,240
» Okay. And the next is commission

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:17,440
comments.

1401
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:19,920
Well, I want to thank you for a year of

1402
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,760
great service and lots of ideas and a

1403
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,680
lot of knowledge that passed through

1404
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,160
while you were here as chair.

1405
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,920
» Okay.

1406
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,079
» And uh looking forward to Rob filling

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,480
that seat next year or this year, I'm

1408
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:32,799
sorry.

1409
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,640
And um just I've enjoyed working with

1410
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:36,160
all of you so much. You know, we're on

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01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,280
here and I'm always learning something

1412
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,079
new.

1413
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,559
» And then with staff, I mean, I can't do

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01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:44,160
without you at all. So,

1415
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,599
» Always learning and always getting all

1416
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,000
the information that I need and I

1417
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:49,000
appreciate that.

1418
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:54,960
I'd like to add to the the term grace

1419
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,799
that Commissioner Davidson associated

1420
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:01,280
with you and and the way I saw it

1421
01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:03,680
applied during the year was we became I

1422
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,079
thought better interacted with the folks

1423
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:09,599
that come up here and voice their

1424
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:11,599
concerns about applications rather than

1425
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:14,640
say thank you for your comments and and

1426
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:18,640
not do anything about it. It seems like

1427
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:20,319
you fostered a a more helpful group. And

1428
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,839
by group, I mean not just the

1429
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:28,799
commissioners, but legal counsel and

1430
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:31,839
staff to um think about and discuss and

1431
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:34,000
sometimes make changes to um the

1432
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:38,480
application in the form of uh conditions

1433
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:41,599
of approval or further um further study

1434
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,599
input. And I saw you making um that

1435
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:47,680
happen more than before. and you did

1436
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:50,240
that with with grace and just being nice

1437
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,799
and fair to to the people who come to

1438
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,680
these meetings. So, I want to thank you

1439
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:55,760
for that.

1440
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,280
» Thank you, Commissioner Murphy. Vice

1441
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Chair Murphy,

1442
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,240
» And I I echo those comments, too. And

1443
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,400
you started over at the library and so

1444
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,720
we got to move into the new building,

1445
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,520
but um

1446
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:12,640
seemed like this wasn't your first time.

1447
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:16,079
you seem like you were a seasoned pro

1448
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,680
and you know engaged the public and I

1449
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:20,240
think a lot of times the smartest one in

1450
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,319
the room on your you know your

1451
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,319
background and the the detail you have

1452
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:26,720
on the different items that came before

1453
01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:28,559
us and I enjoy working with all the

1454
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,119
commissioners as well.

1455
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,039
» So

1456
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:32,720
» Thank you. Well that's all very very

1457
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,640
gracious and kind of you to say I

1458
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,880
appreciate it. as I was re reflecting on

1459
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:40,079
I made a little a short list of some of

1460
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,720
the many items that we uh reviewed and

1461
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,880
made decisions on and it um really

1462
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,119
varied. So from zoning ordinance

1463
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,920
amendments including those pertaining to

1464
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:52,720
offsale alcoh al alcohol establishments

1465
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,839
to uh we learned about tasting licenses

1466
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:58,960
with the the recent Albertson's license.

1467
01:05:55,839 --> 01:06:00,319
» Um we oversaw and re reviewed projects

1468
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,720
increasing the number of housing units

1469
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:05,200
in the city which we usually do. Uh we

1470
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,799
reviewed a cup to allow for the use of

1471
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,520
an indoor golf practice facility. Um we

1472
01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:13,599
reviewed um changes to the general plan

1473
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,280
safety element and during that update

1474
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:17,039
and then also reviewed and recommended

1475
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,520
to the city council approval of the

1476
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:22,160
first city climate action plan. So it

1477
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,640
was it was pretty broad um diverse the

1478
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:27,359
topics that we had the the pleasure of

1479
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,440
um engaging on this year. So, um, again,

1480
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:32,400
really appreciate all of your work and

1481
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,680
commitment to our city and also to again

1482
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:38,160
to our staff. So, um, and, uh, Chair

1483
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:41,200
Davidson, I wish you a very, uh,

1484
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,599
successful, um, year and thank you for

1485
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,039
stepping up to to serve in the new role.

1486
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:47,039
» Thank you.

1487
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:50,359
» Okay, if there are no other comments and

1488
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,359
we will adjourn.