1 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:04,880 All right, we'll call the regular city 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,440 council meeting Monday, February 9th, 7 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,120 p.m. to order. Uh, roll call. Jovona, 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:11,920 >> Toby Nelson, 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,960 >> Sam Solars, 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,920 >> David Paradise, 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,519 >> Michelle Otto, Jackie Hines, 8 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:18,720 >> Jared Vogi, Dan Reamer. 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,520 >> All right, I do not see Pastor Kathy for 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,160 invocation. Um, please rise for the 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,429 pledge of allegiance. 12 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:31,920 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,399 United States of America and to the 14 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:37,760 republic for which it stands, one nation 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,480 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 16 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:47,910 justice for justice for all. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,440 » All right. I will be looking for a 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,360 approval of the agenda. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,039 >> I will make the motion to approve the 20 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:54,879 agenda. 21 00:00:54,879 --> 00:01:00,389 >> I'll second. Any discussion? 22 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:01,840 All right. Miss Otto, 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,160 >> I. 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,039 >> Miss Paradise, 25 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:03,520 >> I. 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,320 >> Mr. Nelson, 27 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:04,559 >> I. 28 00:01:04,559 --> 00:01:05,680 >> Mr. Vontoma, 29 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,080 >> I. 30 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,479 >> I'll vote I. Approval of agenda passes 31 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:11,200 50. You're looking for a approval of the 32 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,560 consent. 33 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,240 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 34 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,520 consent agenda. 35 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,040 >> I'll second. 36 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,560 >> Any further discussion? 37 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,720 >> I just have a quick question. On page 38 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,159 35, are we still paying for the Comcast 39 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,799 here? 40 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:28,960 No, we are because there's only certain 41 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,880 services that are excluded per the new 42 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,680 contract. 43 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,799 >> Okay. 44 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:36,240 >> All right. Thank you. 45 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,799 >> Any further questions? 46 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:40,079 >> All right. Mr. Bonma, 47 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:40,400 >> I. 48 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,200 >> Mr. Nelson, 49 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,600 >> I. 50 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,479 >> Mr. Paradise, 51 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:43,200 >> I. 52 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,079 >> Miss Otto, 53 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:48,159 >> I will vote I. Passes 50. 54 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:55,590 Wright County Sheriff's Office. 55 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Good evening, mayor and council and 56 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,520 community. I am Deputy RS with the Red 57 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,640 County Sheriff's Office. A lot of you 58 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 guys probably haven't met me yet. Been 59 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,000 with Sheriff's Office since about June 60 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,719 of last year. So, been down in Montro's 61 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:08,319 Waverly since the beginning of this 62 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:12,720 year. So, um just in Montro alone this 63 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 month, we have had 99 calls for service, 64 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,440 55 cases, and two PC arrest this week. 65 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,879 Um, in January we had 254 calls for 66 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,959 service. Uh, 133 cases and five PC 67 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:29,680 arrests. Um, just comparing a little 68 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 bit, we have had 100 more calls for 69 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,480 service than Maple Lake, 50 more than 70 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,599 Clearwater, and about 30 to 40 more than 71 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:39,920 Anaddale, and 100 more than CO. Just to 72 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:41,120 show a little bit of comparison to 73 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 surrounding communities. Do you guys 74 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,229 have anything for us? 75 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:49,920 » No. Okay, I think we're good. 76 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,280 >> Community, any comments, questions, 77 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,680 concerns. 78 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,830 >> Yeah, 79 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,920 » that includes everything. 80 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:00,879 >> All righty. 81 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:03,280 >> Thank you. Thank you. 82 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,120 >> All right, moving on to reports and 83 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,599 recommendations. Uh, city council 84 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:11,040 monthly activity report. 85 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,879 >> Uh, last month I had city council 86 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,040 meeting, planning and zoning. I had a 87 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,280 meeting with Kim from Grace Place 88 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,440 council workshop and the elected leaders 89 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,920 conference. 90 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,200 >> I had city council council workshop and 91 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,519 elected leaders conference. 92 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:32,480 >> Let's see. City council workshop um meeting with 93 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,920 the league of Minnesota cities with 94 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,720 other right county mayors. Um league of 95 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Minnesota cities elected leaders 96 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,159 conference 97 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,400 meeting with Wright County and talks 98 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,840 about Clementa. Um, 99 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,400 I think that's about it. 100 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 >> City council, city council workshop, 101 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,879 fire department, big Minnesota cities 102 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:55,360 elected leaders. 103 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,519 Uh, we had a right county meeting and uh 104 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:03,439 went to Mary'sville's meeting last year. 105 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,920 >> Uh, city council workshop coun uh I 106 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,080 wasn't at the council meeting um 107 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,159 Mary'sville fire department dinner which 108 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:11,840 we you guys all attended too. 109 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,879 >> Yes. 110 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,920 um the caucus that was just last week 111 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,519 and celebrate Montros. 112 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:28,790 >> All right. Montros Fire Department. 113 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,000 » Good evening, Mayor and Council. 114 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Attached in your packet is the activity 115 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,280 report for January of 2026. Um total 116 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,120 calls were only 16, so we're down a 117 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,560 little bit from last year. Um which 118 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 we're okay with. Um training standard 119 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,800 training for the month for the most 120 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,440 part. Um 121 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,600 2026 captains were selected to be Cory 122 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,840 Dit, Eddie Andreoff, and Joey Ty. Same 123 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:52,160 as uh 2025 captains. Then 124 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,759 acknowledgement is just to all the 125 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:55,040 firefighters for their commitment and 126 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,320 service to the Montro Fire Department 127 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,440 throughout the entire year of 2025. 128 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Any questions on that? 129 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,840 >> Nope. 130 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:07,199 Then just to recap on our um prime rib 131 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:08,960 dinner which was held last this past 132 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,280 Saturday. Um we served uh right around 133 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:15,600 about 390 meals um served. Um special 134 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 thanks to Hollywood um sports complex 135 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,400 and catering um for helping us out with 136 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,960 the dinner. Um Justin Emmery, he's a 137 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 huge supporter. Gives us silent auction 138 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,960 items, allows us use of his bounce house 139 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,120 and a whole bunch of other stuff. 140 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,759 um and then everybody who donated items 141 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,080 for the silent auction and then all who 142 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,160 attended um and supported the fire 143 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,039 department. We also did some recognition 144 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:42,160 um during the dinner. Uh the 2025 145 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,240 firefighter of the year um was selected 146 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 to be uh Roy Koko Henry. The top 147 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,360 responders were Kelly Stole and Keith 148 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,560 Johnson for 2025. And then we recognized 149 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,800 Alan Mortonson for over 28 years of 150 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,720 service. He'll be retiring later this 151 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,080 month here and that'll come before you 152 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,160 guys in the uh March packet. So, thanks 153 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,240 for all who came and supported us. Uh we 154 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,840 appreciate it and hope everybody had a 155 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:10,629 good time. So, any questions? 156 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:11,039 » No. 157 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:11,440 >> Perfect. 158 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,840 >> We're good. Thanks, Kevin. 159 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,400 >> All right. Uh nothing for EDA planning 160 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,680 and zoning. 161 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,360 >> Uh mayor and council included in your 162 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,199 packet are the planning and zoning 163 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:22,560 commission meeting minutes from their 164 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 January 14th meeting. um also are two 165 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,360 applications for two new members to 166 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,880 planning and zoning. So, we would be 167 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,080 looking for um a motion to accept each 168 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,309 of those applications. 169 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:38,960 » I'll make a motion to accept Tracy Gerna 170 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Planning and Zoning. You want them 171 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,880 separate, right? 172 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:41,840 >> Yes, please. 173 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:43,600 >> I'll second. 174 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,600 >> Any further discussion on that? 175 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,319 >> Miss Otto, 176 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:48,560 >> I. 177 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,360 >> Miss Paradise, 178 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:49,600 >> I. 179 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,639 >> Mr. Nelson, 180 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:50,960 >> I. 181 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,000 >> Mr. Vontoma. 182 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,479 >> I vote I passes 50. 183 00:06:56,479 --> 00:06:58,240 >> I'll make a motion then to approve 184 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Kendra Sailor also to planning and 185 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,039 zoning. 186 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:02,960 >> I'll second that. 187 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,560 >> Any further discussion? 188 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,520 >> Miss Otto 189 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,840 >> I. 190 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:08,639 >> M. Paradise. 191 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:08,880 >> I. 192 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,680 >> Mr. Nelson. 193 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,000 >> I. 194 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,120 >> Mr. Bontoma. 195 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:11,440 >> I. 196 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:20,309 >> I'll vote I. Passes 5. 197 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:23,199 Nothing for park and wreck. Nothing for 198 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:26,000 city engineer. 199 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,479 All right. Public works. Danny, what you 200 00:07:28,479 --> 00:07:28,720 got? 201 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,039 >> Air and council. Uh on page 59. Um we'll 202 00:07:33,039 --> 00:07:36,880 start off um the CIP plan that we 203 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,560 uh talked about before. We have some 204 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,400 equipment on there that we are trading 205 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 in and rolling out. Um first thing is 206 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,360 the Bobcat. 207 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,120 um with the quote you have in front of 208 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,800 you again, page 59, just trading in our 209 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,680 2015 Bobcat to upgrade. Um looking to 210 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,639 get approval for that and it did come in 211 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:03,270 under budget. 212 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,510 Any questions you got? 213 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:17,189 Any questions for Danny on the Bobcat? 214 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:18,800 We're budgeted for that. Correct. 215 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,120 >> Yeah, 216 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,720 >> correct. They were provided in the CIP 217 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,000 plan, the four budget. 218 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,120 >> Good job, company under budget. 219 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,759 >> Say I don't see a import tax or anything 220 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:33,990 like that on this one. So, 221 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,519 » that's nice. 222 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:36,719 >> And you could see on there, they're 223 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:40,479 giving us a trade in on our old one. So, 224 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:43,039 um, with that being said, we traded in 225 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,839 every 5 years prior, and this has been 226 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:49,040 10 now. So, um, we're going to keep 227 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,399 these equipments on a rolling trade out 228 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:54,240 to try to get some money for them before 229 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 they're worth nothing. So, 230 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:03,670 um, this is just the start of it. So, 231 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:09,269 looking for that approval. 232 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:11,440 » I'll make a motion to approve the Bobcat 233 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 purchase of 42,500. 234 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:17,920 >> I'll second. Any further discussion? 235 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,200 >> All right. Mr. Rontoma, 236 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,080 >> I'll vote I. 237 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,040 >> Miss Otto, 238 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,360 >> I. 239 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,080 >> Miss Paradise. 240 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:22,399 >> I. 241 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:23,279 >> Miss Nelson. 242 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:23,600 >> I. 243 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,040 >> I'll vote I. This is 5. 244 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,200 >> Uh, thank you, Mayor Councel. Um on page 245 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,839 61 now and included in your packet is 246 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:38,399 the two John Deere zero turns we are 247 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:44,800 trading out um for two um 248 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Toro zero turns and again they are 249 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,160 giving us a tradein value of 14,000 250 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,440 um but there's still a cost upfront. 251 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,480 Um, we're looking to probably keep these 252 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,800 for 5 years and trade them out again. 253 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,640 So, I'm looking to get approval again 254 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,680 that came in under budget um for the 255 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:12,550 30,560. 256 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,040 » Danny, did they I see price and I see 257 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,800 net. There's about a $5,000 difference. 258 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,399 Do they give a discount or something for 259 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:20,320 us? 260 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Yeah, I mean the state bid, 261 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,800 >> you know, we taxes 262 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,800 >> they give us state bid prices. 263 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,320 >> Okay. 264 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,920 >> I just wanted to make sure that it was 265 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,800 the 58 and not like 69 or 70, 266 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,829 >> right? 267 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:37,519 » And that's the same with the Bobcat. We 268 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:39,760 try to stay I mean we pretty much do 269 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,949 stay with dealers that are state bid. 270 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:46,959 Um, I'll make a motion to approve the 271 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:49,360 purchase from Eminem Express in the 272 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,720 amount of 30,560. 273 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,399 >> I'll second. 274 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,959 >> Any further discussion? 275 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:58,079 Miss Paradise. 276 00:10:58,079 --> 00:10:58,320 >> I, 277 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,519 >> Mr. Vontoma. 278 00:10:59,519 --> 00:10:59,839 >> I, 279 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:00,640 >> Miss Otto, 280 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:00,959 >> I. 281 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:01,760 >> Mr. Nelson, 282 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,000 >> I. 283 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 >> I'll vote I. Passes 50. 284 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,480 >> Thank you, Mayor Council. Moving on to 285 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,440 number two. Um members of the VFW have 286 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,720 came to the city wondering um get 287 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,440 council approval to mow the VFW mow and 288 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 trim. Um their members are getting 289 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,839 older. Um Billy Babetts now is the 290 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:22,640 volunteer mower there. Wondering if 291 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,839 public works could mow that um for them 292 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:29,670 from this point out. 293 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:34,079 » How much time you think that would add? 294 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:36,079 depending upon 295 00:11:36,079 --> 00:11:39,120 mowing and you know season wet season 296 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,600 it'll grow fast. I'd say hour mowing 297 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 half hour weed whipping every 298 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,240 >> time in that area. So it's not like 299 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,600 you're traveling over there just for 300 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,880 that or is there nothing? 301 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,560 >> We're already in the area for other 302 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:51,600 things we mow. 303 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,240 >> Okay. 304 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,720 >> So um 305 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,920 I don't see it being an issue, but it is 306 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,240 a private lot. It's not city-owned yet. 307 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,000 I know they were talking about possibly 308 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,440 donating it in the future, but 309 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,760 um 310 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,440 >> I can't just say yes without council 311 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:15,910 approval. 312 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,670 » Any thoughts, council? 313 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,000 » If somebody gets hurt, who's that go on? 314 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,680 >> Uh well, you'd have to talk to our 315 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,320 insurance company on that and see what 316 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,480 happens. Um, I am not going to allow 317 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,320 summer help to mow that. That is a 318 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,560 pretty steep bank. Um, public works will 319 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:37,200 strictly be mowing that. As far as weed 320 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,079 whip and summer help can do that, but 321 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:42,480 >> um, I guess we could call an ass. I 322 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,360 never really thought about that 323 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,360 if we're have like an umbrella coverage. 324 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,310 Uh, me and Jackie can look into that. 325 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,560 It's a 326 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,480 >> good question. That's what I was going 327 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,639 to ask. 328 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:00,389 I mean, 329 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,200 I I think we should maybe table it till 330 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,560 next month. I mean, we have a few months 331 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,800 till grass is going to start growing to 332 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,800 maybe get that insurance answer before 333 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,200 we 334 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,079 >> Could we make a motion per approval 335 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:18,389 through insurance and attorneys? 336 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:22,079 Then I'll I'll make a motion to approve 337 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:25,920 mowing and weed whipping the VFW per uh 338 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,440 approval through insurance and 339 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,360 attorneys. 340 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,880 >> I'll second. 341 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 >> Any further discussion? 342 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,560 >> Mr. Nelson. 343 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:34,800 >> I. 344 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,519 >> Mr. Paradise. 345 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:35,839 >> Hi. 346 00:13:35,839 --> 00:13:36,959 >> Mr. Bontoma. 347 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:37,440 >> Hi. 348 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,160 >> Otto. 349 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,480 >> I. 350 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,680 will vote I. Passes 5. 351 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,600 >> Moving on. Mayor and council number 352 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,079 three is the BNSF railroad improvements 353 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:48,399 at Clementa. I was contacted about a 354 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,399 month ago from BNSF stating that um they 355 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,880 are going to upgrade the crossing and 356 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,959 the city is liable for 50% of that. 357 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:01,519 Um Jackie, what were those numbers right 358 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:02,399 off hand? 359 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,320 >> So, yep. I continued a conversation 360 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,160 after Dan and so this is the railroad 361 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,600 crossing um at uh Clementa and the 362 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,880 track. Um, currently it's not scheduled 363 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,040 work. It's not scheduled to happen yet. 364 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,639 We won't know that until probably April 365 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:20,399 or May when it will happen. Um, half of 366 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:23,440 it is roughly 48,000 that we are on the 367 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,000 hook for. So, this was not budgeted, not 368 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,360 planned. Um, 369 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,959 >> after talking with the engineers, they 370 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:33,920 are recommending that we 371 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,240 move forward and allow well obviously we 372 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,079 have to allow it let it happen instead 373 00:14:38,079 --> 00:14:41,920 of um having it be done when Clementa is 374 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,600 done next year 375 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,959 >> um just due to the way the work is done 376 00:14:46,959 --> 00:14:50,240 in the order um public works will have 377 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,079 to provide traffic control. It's about a 378 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:54,800 3-day project. The road will be closed 379 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,519 for 3 days. Um, we do have to find an 380 00:14:57,519 --> 00:15:00,800 asphalt contractor to finish up the job. 381 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,480 Um, and that's about all the details 382 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,279 we've been given at this point. They 383 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:06,800 couldn't provide anything further for us 384 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,480 until it actually gets scheduled. 385 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,639 >> They said here you have to pay 50% 386 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:11,279 figure it out. 387 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:12,399 >> We don't have a choice. 388 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:13,440 >> Fantastic. 389 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,880 >> How does that affect the project for 390 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,839 next year then? 391 00:15:15,839 --> 00:15:17,040 >> Yeah. 392 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,959 >> So, they've asked us to basically um 393 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:23,600 have the railroad grind. Am I saying 394 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,040 this correctly? um do the work past 395 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,880 their property line and onto Clementa. 396 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,880 So that am I wording this? 397 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,959 >> So we could tie into when Clement was 398 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:35,680 redone. 399 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,519 >> So yes, exactly. So when the Clementa 400 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:41,760 Avenue project occurs, then we simply 401 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,839 tie into where they left off 402 00:15:43,839 --> 00:15:45,440 >> and we don't have to get a railroad 403 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,519 permit to be in there right away. Um 404 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:49,279 flaggers for being in there right away, 405 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,440 all that sort of stuff. So it' be more 406 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,509 efficient for the city's project. 407 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,639 cheaper, right? 408 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,160 >> Not cheaper. 409 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,079 >> No, 410 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:03,600 >> I I did 411 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,800 >> I did kindly ask BNSF to give us a more 412 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,519 than a sixmon heads up next time. 413 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:10,639 >> Yeah, that's 414 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:13,279 >> um but they're like 415 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:14,720 >> they really didn't care what I had to 416 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 say. It's they you know we it's our 417 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,839 crossing now, right? Half of it's ours, 418 00:16:19,839 --> 00:16:24,160 half it's BNSF. So, um, 419 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,680 you know, so we could budget for it. So, 420 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,680 I say from moving on forward, I, you 421 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,959 know, I'm going to ask them like, "How 422 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:31,199 many years do you redo these?" And we'll 423 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,839 budget for it accordingly. But this was 424 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:36,560 out of left field. So, 425 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,399 >> and then public works is responsible for 426 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:39,360 traffic control. 427 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,320 >> Yeah. 428 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:40,720 >> Awesome. 429 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,160 >> And we have charge for that. 430 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,759 >> We'll just shut the roads down and send 431 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:45,360 out notifications to the people that 432 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,360 it's going to affect as soon as we get a 433 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,079 date. 434 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:49,360 >> Yep. We'll just have to put up 435 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,759 barricades to block the road. 436 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:53,360 >> I mean, hopefully they give us a heads 437 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 up longer than a week out when they're 438 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,120 going to come to do it. 439 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,880 >> So, 440 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,800 >> I mean, the citizens will know as soon 441 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,920 as we know. 442 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,839 >> Yeah, we were told that they would a 443 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:06,000 decision should be made around April 444 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,880 that they would have um a start date. 445 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,959 >> Okay. 446 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:15,760 So looking forward to we have to provide 447 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,640 our own asphalt company. 448 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,839 >> Yeah, that that when they give us a 449 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:23,039 heads up, I'm going to have to start 450 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:25,360 calling around. Right. I mean, we don't 451 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:26,799 have asphalt, 452 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:27,199 >> right? 453 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:28,799 >> We're not that big of a town. We don't 454 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:31,919 do it ourselves. So, 455 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:33,760 and hopefully we can get one lined up at 456 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,280 the same time. Otherwise, the road's 457 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,799 going to be closed down longer than 3 458 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:37,679 days. 459 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:40,080 >> That's a big concern. The earlier the 460 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,190 heads up, the better for us. 461 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,240 » It's giving me a headache. 462 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,760 >> Yeah. I don't want to hear in April that 463 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,280 they're doing it in May. 464 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,070 >> Yeah. Or we'll be out there next week. 465 00:17:54,080 --> 00:18:00,950 » Um, as far as funding goes. 466 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,760 » Mhm. 467 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,559 Um, we have planned for some additional 468 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:09,679 and over in our streets. So, that's part 469 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:13,760 of that kind of overplanning. Um, so I'm 470 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,520 We'll be fine. 471 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,840 >> I knew we would. I just want to make 472 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:23,830 sure. 473 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,080 » So, we looking for a a motion. 474 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,799 >> Just information. 475 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,520 Okay. 476 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,200 >> I'm assuming we'll get a more solid 477 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 number when it comes, but 478 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,720 >> just another thing to keep up with what 479 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,880 they said. 480 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,400 Um, any more questions on that? 481 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,120 >> Not right now. 482 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:45,360 >> Um, and then number four, I don't really 483 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,799 have any updates for you. Um, if you got 484 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:50,799 questions for public works, I'll answer 485 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:53,919 those now. 486 00:18:53,919 --> 00:18:55,440 >> Any questions for Danny? 487 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,440 >> No. 488 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Danny, I think you're good. Thank 489 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,760 you. 490 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,760 All right. Uh, let's see. You got no old 491 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,919 business. Moving on to new business, uh, 492 00:19:05,919 --> 00:19:11,110 Reich County Snowmobile Agreement. 493 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,799 » U, I'm Kurt Ritter with the Delo 494 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:15,919 Snowmobile Club and on behalf of Wright 495 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:17,840 County Snowmobile Association, we've had 496 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,360 a landowner agreement with you guys in 497 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:20,640 the past. We're just trying to update 498 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,960 our records and and include it. There 499 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,200 really isn't all what it does that gives 500 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,919 us access to the road ditches and the 501 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:31,840 rideways. There really isn't much in 502 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,039 there. I think I don't know if the map 503 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:35,840 is attached or not, but 504 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,640 >> um it it kind of comes up to Casey's and 505 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,520 that's pretty much it for right now. I 506 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,880 know we've worked in the past to trying 507 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,679 to get something through town and it's always in the works and that's 508 00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:46,880 something that we would come to you guys 509 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:55,029 with if something were to change. 510 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:56,799 » So, what was included is just basically 511 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,919 an updated agreement. 512 00:19:59,919 --> 00:20:03,669 Council, 513 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:11,190 any questions? 514 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,080 » Looks pretty straightforward to me. 515 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:22,470 >> I'll be looking for a motion. 516 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,160 » I'll make a motion to approve the Ray 517 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840 County Snowmobile Association permit 518 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,960 agreement. 519 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,039 >> I will second. Any further discussion? 520 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,240 Mr. Paradise. Hi, 521 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,600 >> Mr. Bontoma. Hi, 522 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,559 >> Miss Otto. Hi, 523 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:35,679 >> Mr. Nelson. Hi. 524 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:38,000 >> I will vote. I passes 50. 525 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,480 >> Thank you. 526 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,000 You just want to send it out 527 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,559 then? 528 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:41,039 >> Yes, I will. 529 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:42,159 >> All right. Thank you very much. 530 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:43,520 >> Thank you. 531 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,919 >> All right. 532 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:47,280 >> Montro Ambassadors, I saw you in here 533 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:54,870 somewhere. There you are. 534 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,200 Hello, my name is Jaden Dolick and I am 535 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320 the 2025 2026 Mantros ambassador. I want 536 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,000 to share a little bit about my year so 537 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,679 far and what it means to represent our 538 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,919 community. As an ambassador, my role is 539 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:08,080 to serve as a positive representative of 540 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,400 Mantros, especially for youth, and to 541 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,080 help support the community and other 542 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,799 groups in our community. Over the first 543 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,880 half of my year, I've had the chance to 544 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,799 be part of some really meaningful and 545 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:21,520 fun experiences that have helped me grow 546 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,400 personally while also giving back to the 547 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,799 community that I'm proud to call home. 548 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:28,960 One of my favorite events to participate 549 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,280 in are the parades and coronations. The 550 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,200 Anoka parade as well as the holiday 551 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,440 parades like Winstead, Cambridge, and 552 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Montgomery were so fun. Cold, but a 553 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,600 great time. Meeting the other girls from 554 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,039 other communities and representing 555 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:43,679 mantras have has been a great experience 556 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:46,400 for me. Anyone that knows me knows that 557 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 this has taken me beyond my comfort zone 558 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,240 and I'm really learning new important 559 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,520 skills like public speaking and 560 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,520 introducing myself to new people. 561 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,679 Another highlight for me has been 562 00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:58,400 joining in at community events like 563 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480 breakfast with Santa with celebrate 564 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,640 mantras and community meals with Grace 565 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,200 Place. Being able to support these 566 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200 events has helped me better understand 567 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 needs within our community and how 568 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 important it is for young people to stay 569 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840 involved and give back. Looking forward, 570 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,520 I'm really excited for the warmer 571 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,280 parades. I'm looking forward to 572 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,200 continuing to represent Montro's meeting more community members and 573 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,760 helping support events that bring people 574 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,679 together. These opportunities not only 575 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:28,799 strengthen the city's sense of 576 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,559 community, but they also help 577 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,480 ambassadors like me develop leadership 578 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960 skills and confidence. Overall, being an 579 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,559 ambassador has already taught me so 580 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,240 much, even though the majority of my 581 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480 experiences in Crown are still ahead of 582 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,440 me, I admit I still have some work to do 583 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,360 and I'm ready to continue to work. Thank 584 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,799 you for your support as a city, 585 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,039 borrowing the city trucks and giving us 586 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:50,960 a place to store our float, which 587 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,480 recently got a makeover that we're 588 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 excited to show off at upcoming parades. 589 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,919 My community family and I are grateful. 590 00:22:57,919 --> 00:22:59,520 Thank you for your time tonight and for 591 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440 continuing to support programs that 592 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,200 encourage youth involvement and 593 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 community involvement. 594 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:14,390 >> Thank you, J. Thank you, J. 595 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,880 All right, I have a request for council 596 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,440 action for the rental ordinance 597 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,919 discussion. So, we got uh Jonathan 598 00:23:21,919 --> 00:23:24,559 Danielson, Ross Danielson, 599 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,240 Sue, I'm sorry, I'm probably going to 600 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,120 botch your last name, Bonic, Becky 601 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,480 Yarns, 602 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,919 >> and then I've also got a couple open 603 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:33,520 form requests talking about the same 604 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,039 thing if you guys just kind of all want 605 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,919 to be one. 606 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:39,600 >> All right, you okay with that? 607 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,159 >> Yes. Come on down. Just state your name 608 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:47,750 and your address for me, please. 609 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,080 » Good evening. I'm Jonathan Danielson. Uh 610 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,840 409510th Street Northeast in Buffalo. Um 611 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000 I own JR Real Estate for those who don't 612 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159 know me. Um I don't recognize a lot of 613 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:00,640 new faces on the board here. New mirror. 614 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,000 Um I'm not here to really scream or yell 615 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,320 or cuss or anything like that. I just 616 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 have some questions and uh just kind of 617 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,200 more or less it would have been nice to 618 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,720 have a discussion with you or a workshop 619 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,360 with you on this um rental ordinance. I 620 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,760 get why you want to do it as far as you 621 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,760 know making sure the rentals are safe 622 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 and I I agree rentals should be safe and 623 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120 I know some landlords don't do that but 624 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,200 I like to pride myself as I'm not one of 625 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,360 them. I've had a lot of tenants for many 626 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,360 years stay with me six, seven, eight 627 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,559 years. Um, and I I try really hard not 628 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,640 to raise rent because, as you know, 629 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840 everything else is going up, but um, I 630 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,200 just have a couple key points I'd like 631 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,720 to discuss. I know there's a lot of 632 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,400 other people that would like to talk, so 633 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,640 I'll make it brief. Um, but in the past, 634 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,480 I've I sell real estate, too, so I've 635 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,760 worked with the city in the past on 636 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,520 stuff, and it's been really easy to work 637 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,760 with, communicate, everything was great. 638 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,679 However, I don't feel like that in this 639 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,360 case. this is kind of just kind of 640 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,279 shoved down our throats without talking 641 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,000 to us and you know it affects us and you 642 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,960 know I know some people think 125 bucks 643 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440 or 180 bucks or whatever the fee is 644 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,880 isn't that much but when you're trying 645 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,080 to keep rent down and taxes insurance 646 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,480 has everything is going up and we're 647 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,520 doing our best to keep it down um it's 648 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600 just another expense onto us and on top 649 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440 of it you know if something happens I 650 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000 know I've heard a couple that you know 651 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760 state law doesn't require you know of a 652 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,840 GFI buy is not in a bathroom if it's 653 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,559 grandfathered in, but the inspectors are 654 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,440 now requiring that. Well, it's kind of 655 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600 more expenses on us, you know, and it's 656 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,760 not anything that's dangerous, you know. 657 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,440 I see if something's dangerous. 658 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,400 Absolutely. But as I hope I take care of 659 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,400 my my units, so it shouldn't be 660 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,039 anything. Um, 661 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:52,880 but I'd like I guess my whole point is I 662 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520 just wish this would have it came to us, 663 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,880 talked to us. Um, I use the example is 664 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,360 like Um, city of Buffalo sent out a um, 665 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,760 notification about stuff and we could 666 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,039 have workshopped it with you. City of 667 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,039 Maple Lake did the same thing. You know, 668 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,120 they heard us out, talked with us. 669 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,279 Ultimately, they decided not to pass it, 670 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,039 but that wasn't quite my point. My point 671 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,200 was is they wanted to talk to us and our 672 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,520 concerns and our, you know, what can we 673 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 do together to make it work. Um, there's 674 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720 a lot of us that never got informed. The 675 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,960 only reason I found out, um, was through 676 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,679 my dad and through Sue. Um, nothing was 677 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:32,080 sent to me until after I reached out to 678 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080 the city. I know there's a few landlords 679 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,159 back here that haven't got anything yet. 680 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,480 Um, and I know Christy had said that she 681 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,159 mailed stuff out and you know how mail 682 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:41,840 is these days, you know, 683 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,880 >> but I had no idea that the dues were due 684 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,039 on February 1st or the inspection was 685 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:48,960 due on the March. Wasn't until I called 686 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,159 the city to get that information, which, 687 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:53,440 you know, that's where I wish the 688 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,559 communication would have been a little 689 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,400 bit better. we could have workshopped it 690 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720 versus having a bunch of angry people. 691 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,640 And like I said, I'm not here to yell. I 692 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,799 just wanted to talk, kind of give you my 693 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,960 two cents. And I understand that there's 694 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,559 some rental properties that are not 695 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,320 included in this, such as the mobile 696 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,000 manor. Um, and a lot of that was due to 697 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,880 the was it something to do with the 698 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520 utilities or something? But Country View 699 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Estates is the same thing where we're 700 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,440 not individually paying the city 701 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,679 utilities that's in our HOA. the board 702 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:26,400 pays it or the the the state pays it. 703 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,120 So, I guess why is that not included? 704 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,400 But we're included. Um I just think if 705 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,559 it's going to be 706 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:35,840 implemented, it should be across the 707 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,440 board in my opinion. Um and then there's 708 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,799 just a couple things that when I was 709 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,320 reading through your sheets you sent 710 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,120 out, um you know, it can't be two times 711 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,320 the amount of rooms. So, I give the 712 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,480 example of a four-bedroom house, but if 713 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,559 the family of 10 comes in, I the state 714 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,480 says I can't discriminate against them 715 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,559 because they have eight kids. So, how 716 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:56,000 does this the board work through that 717 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,200 cuz I don't want to lose my rental 718 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960 licenses, but I also don't want to break 719 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,360 any laws. Um, another one is, you know, 720 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,080 if you can't, it's only one family. So, 721 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,840 I use the example, I had one that took 722 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840 in a sick friend, you know, but now 723 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399 that's not the same family. So, am I 724 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,480 breaking the rules with the city then or 725 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760 how do we navigate that and you know 726 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,120 just some of the things I would have 727 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,240 liked to workshop with you just so it 728 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480 we would have known more and then same 729 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,880 thing with the fees. I know other towns 730 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,559 have them but they're two to three times 731 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,880 more than other cities. So, how come 732 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,480 it's more expensive and what does that 733 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,919 funds go towards? I guess um that's kind 734 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:37,760 of my main points. So, I know there's a 735 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200 lot more I could go through, but I want 736 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520 to be respectful of time. So, I thank 737 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840 you for hearing me out and hope to work 738 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360 with you in the future. I'd like to keep 739 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,919 doing business in my office. So, 740 00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:49,200 >> I appreciate it. Thank you. 741 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:59,909 >> Thank you. Appreciate it. you. 742 00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:01,840 » My name is Sue Fallon Donic and I'm the 743 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,600 president of the Association of Country 744 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,200 View Estates and we too were floored 745 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,799 that this was not even brought to our 746 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,600 attention prior to the information. I 747 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,159 was given an email saying they needed to 748 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:17,039 know the tenants in the buildings. Well, 749 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,760 I don't own every unit. My husband and I 750 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000 own nine units out of the 57 units that 751 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360 are available. And it we did not think 752 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,200 that it was up to us to tell you who's 753 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,159 living in these complexes. And I did res 754 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:31,919 respond back saying, "Well, are you 755 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:34,480 asking the homeowners who's living in 756 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,600 their units?" Um, it just seems like the 757 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 renters are being penalized for renting 758 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,080 in this city. I own property in 759 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,559 Minneapolis and I've gone to many 760 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,720 meetings and I've never felt this left 761 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,120 out. We always had workshops as Jonathan 762 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,559 said and talking to the owners. Montro 763 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,080 is not a high middle class area. Country 764 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,360 View keep tries to keep their rents 765 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,080 relatively low because of the clientele 766 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,559 in this area. We know that they're not 767 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,240 making 50 $60,000 a year. Um they're 768 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,559 actually lower income. And so what's 769 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:13,440 happening is all these fees, including 770 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 the water that we pay $6,000 a month for 771 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,720 three buildings, is adding on to the 772 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,039 pressure of the owners who have to pass 773 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,640 that on to their tenants. So the rents 774 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,679 are going up to almost $13,400 775 00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:30,240 a month. Now, I don't know about you, 776 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,640 but when I bought my first house, I did 777 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960 not pay anywhere near that much money. 778 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760 And now you're asking people to move in 779 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,039 a in a in a community such as Montrose 780 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,880 and it's a small community and things 781 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960 are lower down here than they are the 782 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120 city. We don't get the commuters like we 783 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360 used to do when I came out here 26 years 784 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,120 ago. Um there's still a lot of people 785 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,559 that go to the city and they can make 786 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,000 money out there but in Mont in Montro 787 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,799 Cooko Buffalo Howard Lake they're not 788 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,679 making that kind of money. So I guess 789 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,080 what the bottom line is why we were not 790 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880 brought into the mix of this. We are 791 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,559 probably your largest rental area for units in a complete in a small area. 792 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,720 We're also told as Jonathan brought up 793 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520 was the water. Our association pays that 794 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520 water. We have association dues that 795 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,600 each owner pays monthly of $325. 796 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,520 So if you own multiple units, you're 797 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,919 paying for that the water plus the 798 00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:29,440 electric for the outside and the 799 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320 interior hallways. So what's happening 800 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880 is we're we've got owners who want to 801 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 sell now. We could be sitting there with 802 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,360 empty units because no one's going to 803 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,640 pay what the going rate for for units 804 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,720 are right now. We're trying to keep it 805 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,360 low. And as the president, I have to be 806 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,120 responsible for all the monies that come 807 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,919 in. I have to make sure as you do that 808 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,320 this tax money that we're we're sending 809 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,360 for here is spent wisely and that's what 810 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,679 we're trying to do. So we had just had 811 00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:02,000 hoped that you would contact us and let 812 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,559 us know this was coming because we've 813 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,600 had to con increase our association dues 814 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,720 twice in a year and it's it's getting 815 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,960 more expensive and if you want more 816 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,519 people to move into your area you have 817 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,200 to make it affordable for other people 818 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,279 as well. I mean, yes, you have expensive 819 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,840 homes around the exterior, but you also 820 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,200 have people who want to live out here 821 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,120 who grew up here or older people who 822 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,200 want to go into smaller units. And so, I 823 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,919 appreciate um in the future to contact 824 00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:35,519 us directly. Um we were told once again 825 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,360 the mail, we were told that we were 826 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,120 given this stuff. We never received 827 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,679 anything in the mail. So, and then all 828 00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,360 of a sudden we found out that February 829 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,399 1st we had to have, you know, so we had 830 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:48,240 to come up with thousands of dollars in 831 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080 order to pay for the fees all at one 832 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,360 time with really no notice. And you 833 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,279 know, you had decided made this decision 834 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,840 back in November and I think it would 835 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,679 have just been a really good um 836 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:02,720 community if you would have included the 837 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,760 people who are renting in your city. 838 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Thank you. 839 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:16,630 >> Thank you. 840 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,269 There we go. 841 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:24,960 Hello. 842 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Sorry about that. Hello. My name is Ross 843 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,240 Danielson. I live at 3616 20th Street 844 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,279 Northeast in Buffalo. I have 18 rental 845 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:37,120 units here in town. And again, we were 846 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,720 blindsided. Also, um 847 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,640 they just mentioned about the fees about 848 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,000 thousands of dollars having to come up 849 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,760 with the fees. It's kind of the same 850 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,600 situation that you guys are running into 851 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,919 right now with the railroad. It's going 852 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,480 to cost you $48,000 is what it just 853 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,159 said. It's not in your budget 854 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,559 whatsoever. This is what is not in our 855 00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,760 budget at all either itself. So 856 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,720 ultimately we try to keep our rents 857 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,000 lower than we than market rate is and 858 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,280 stuff. I maintain my units the best I 859 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,879 can and stuff. We have tenants that they 860 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,679 need something done. They're done. I had 861 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,399 my inspections today and stuff. I had 862 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:21,280 people back out today to fix the little 863 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,919 items that was was asked to have 864 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:27,839 repaired and stuff. So, 865 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:29,760 the communication and the working with 866 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,159 the city and the city has worked with 867 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,000 us. It took 16 years to get Rockbrook 868 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,430 Boulevard. 869 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,240 Thanks to Jessica that came on and said, 870 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,040 "Hey, we need that road fixed." We 871 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,359 worked together and it worked out 872 00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:49,679 wonderful. I went to every single 873 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,440 property owner. We had a conversation. 874 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,919 We spent time together. We made a plan. 875 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:55,839 She helped us do do an assessment 876 00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:57,520 against the property and it all worked 877 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,240 out. Yes, it cost money. It's costing 878 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,960 the the the you know the property owners 879 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,359 and the current owners and stuff, but it 880 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,280 was communication that worked together 881 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,119 and we got it accomplished and 882 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,480 everybody's happy. 883 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,320 >> Can I make a clarification on that first 884 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,720 though? 885 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:13,119 >> Yep. 886 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:14,960 >> The more that you That was actually not 887 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Jessica. That was Christy. 888 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,280 >> Oh, 889 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,720 >> that was Christie that did all that 890 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,000 work. So, I just want to make that 891 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,720 clarification. 892 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,000 >> Okay. Sorry about that. No, 893 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,720 >> you're fine. So, um, a lot of my 894 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,720 communication was was through Jessica. 895 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,920 So, anyways, thank you, Mantros, for 896 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,359 working with us because that's the most 897 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:33,280 important part. It was the communication 898 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,079 that worked together that got a project 899 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,800 that needed to get done accomplished. 900 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,320 And that's the whole point I think that 901 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,320 everybody has here. I'm not really sure 902 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,800 how, you know, this is right to even be 903 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,760 able to go into somebody else's home and 904 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,359 inspect it and determine how they should 905 00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:55,599 live or what, 906 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,200 you know, condition of what things are and stuff like that. I think that's 907 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200 a real invasion of privacy. It's to me 908 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,160 it's redlinining. It's it's, you know, 909 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,000 it's it's it's discrimination. But I 910 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800 know other communities doing it. So 911 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,160 somewhere's along the line, they must 912 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,599 have figured out somehow to make it 913 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:17,520 legal, but um it is what it is. We we're 914 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,640 working through it. Um I do have a point 915 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640 that Jonathan made up um and Sue made up 916 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520 the point too, trying to make housing 917 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,400 affordable. 918 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,800 Jonathan made the point that you can't 919 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,960 have more than two families in a home 920 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,640 and stuff. Sue made the point that we're 921 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,160 trying to have affordable housing and to 922 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040 make it conducive for people to get 923 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,240 started to work together. I had four 924 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,920 young gentlemen very religious and stuff 925 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,839 that couldn't afford by themselves. So 926 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,640 they got out of two overexpensive rental 927 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,720 properties. They came together and four 928 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,359 of them rented a four bedroomedroom 929 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:06,480 townhouse and stuff that knocked their 930 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,000 rent down from 850 each to 450 each 931 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,560 which made it affordable for them. But 932 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,680 now my understanding and you guys will 933 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,280 have to explain it to me how this is 934 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680 going to work and stuff. I would have to 935 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,960 deny them a rent which I can't do under 936 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,829 federal laws. So, 937 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:31,839 » that's something that's that you it's 938 00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:33,359 going to have to be explained or how how 939 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:35,280 do we work through it or what how do you 940 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,599 handle a situation like that? Um 941 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,720 other part of this um was the 942 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,520 registering your renters and stuff for 943 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,599 the utilities. 944 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,560 You already have an ordinance in place 945 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,760 that stipulates in the event that the 946 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,079 utilities do not get paid, you certify 947 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,400 them to my taxes 948 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040 and stuff. I asked the question and 949 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,760 stuff, why doesn't the utilities then 950 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,200 follow the tenant? Because the tenant 951 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,359 can run. They get behind on their rent. 952 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,359 They get behind in their utilities. They 953 00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:14,240 run and they might run to somebody 954 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,520 else's unit within the city. Why doesn't 955 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,240 that bill transfer to them when they 956 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,000 apply 957 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880 for new utilities in a different unit in 958 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560 the same community? 959 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,280 >> Because it's 960 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,400 >> ultimately then if you know if they 961 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,760 leave and go to a different community, 962 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,440 ultimately you're going to certify it to 963 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,079 my taxes anyway. So why are we 964 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:40,720 registering them and making it my issue? 965 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,599 So, I flew home from Arizona 966 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,440 to handle this stuff and to register my 967 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,000 tenants because I didn't have the 968 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,880 capabilities of doing it from Arizona. 969 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,040 Okay. I don't bring my computer with me. 970 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,520 I detach completely. I have a phone. 971 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,160 That's it. Nothing goes to my phone. So, 972 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,119 anyways, um I'm not sure why a tenant 973 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:07,040 can't register themselves for their 974 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,640 utilities. 975 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880 So, that's a a question I have for the 976 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:20,470 city, too. Um, 977 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040 I guess I'll I'll I'll stop there and 978 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,119 stop before I run out of time because I 979 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,240 know other people want to have some 980 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,520 time, too. Okay. 981 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,400 >> Thank you very much. 982 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:28,960 >> Thank you. 983 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:42,150 >> I hope we can follow up. 984 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,839 I just heard a couple times and I'm 985 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:46,079 Becky Yarns um a landlord and I've also 986 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,800 got about 18 units but just was 987 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,599 wondering um I love the idea hearing 988 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,200 about a workshop 989 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,440 >> and that would have been nice that we 990 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,520 could go ahead and you know get 991 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,320 information ask questions in a more 992 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,720 informal situation. 993 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,760 One of the other questions I have is if 994 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,520 you don't get licensed, what happens? I 995 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,680 mean, 996 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,440 if if you don't get lensure, 997 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,839 what happens to our with our tenants? 998 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:19,599 And like many people said, we've been 999 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,720 trying to keep our this is not uh we 1000 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,079 don't have any big businesses here. And 1001 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,800 I know I've had some of my tenants I've 1002 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,320 had for like 10 to 15 years. And so many 1003 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,680 of them are over 65 1004 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,640 and it's like they they're not making a 1005 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680 lot of money. And so it feels like yes, 1006 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,400 property taxes are going up and the and 1007 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,760 the uh insurance is going up and now 1008 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,280 this. 1009 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,280 So that's another question. I'd love to 1010 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200 see a workshop because I've got way too 1011 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,880 many questions. The other one too is um 1012 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,040 why what happens? This is our first time 1013 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,200 going through this. So, we don't even 1014 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,240 know what exactly West Metro is going to 1015 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,040 be looking at. Are they looking at how 1016 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160 clean are people keep their places? I 1017 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240 know I've got one gal with cancer. She 1018 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,240 can't move around that much. I've got 1019 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,040 another gal with one leg. She can't move 1020 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:24,079 around that much. And so, it's like how picky are they going to be? We don't 1021 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:25,839 know, 1022 00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:28,079 you know, if the and and like uh when 1023 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,079 you walk into a place, you know, if I've 1024 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,440 got a landing, I've got a little scratch 1025 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,599 on the floor. Do we have to get new 1026 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:37,440 flooring for the whole unit or, you 1027 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,040 know, is that going to be okay? 1028 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,960 I would just love to see a workshop. 1029 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:53,430 Thank you. 1030 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,200 Hey, good evening. My name is Kevin 1031 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,319 Gtle. I live at 1855 Silverbell Road in 1032 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:02,079 Egan and I own some condos or I'm a 1033 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,839 partner in ownership in some condos on 1034 00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,839 Mindy Lane. I'm also a commercial real 1035 00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:07,440 estate guy and I work all over the state 1036 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680 with apartment buildings and I own in 1037 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,400 other I own apartments and apartment 1038 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,359 buildings and condos in other mostly 1039 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:18,400 small towns around Minnesota. I was just 1040 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,400 wondering, 1041 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,920 are you able to tell me are the 1042 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,680 inspections going to be done within from 1043 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,960 city employees or are you hiring 1044 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,280 somebody from outside of the is it an 1045 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,640 outside firm that's going to be doing 1046 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,319 these or something? I heard somebody say 1047 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,319 there's an outside firm coming in. 1048 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:34,079 >> Uh we've hired Metro West to do all 1049 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,280 inspections. 1050 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,160 >> Oh, I can imagine they're expensive. 1051 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,119 >> No, 1052 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:40,960 >> I mean not incredibly expensive. 1053 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,359 >> Okay. I don't know what expensive is. I 1054 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:45,839 It just sounds expensive, maybe. Thank 1055 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:47,680 you for that. Absolutely. 1056 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680 >> So, okay. Um, one of the things I was 1057 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,720 wondering because I also own a 1058 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,480 manufactured housing park, not here in 1059 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,640 town, but I heard that you're not going 1060 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,640 to inspect trailer homes that are 1061 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,160 rented. Is that correct? 1062 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,839 >> That is not correct. We are inspecting 1063 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:01,599 them. They are they are included. 1064 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,119 Correct. Yep. We've been in somebody's 1065 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,240 rent out a trailer house. They're 1066 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:04,960 getting inspected. 1067 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,520 >> Correct. 1068 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,280 >> Thank you. Good to know. I just wanted 1069 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,800 to talk about a couple of the fees that 1070 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,319 I pay in some of the other towns that 1071 00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:12,640 are very similar to size and population 1072 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,119 and offerings. Truman, Winnebago, Blue 1073 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:20,800 Earth, Reborn. Nothing, nothing, Um, new 30 bucks a 1074 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,240 door per year. Mano, 45 bucks a door per 1075 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,200 year. So, the to me I'm still trying to 1076 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,960 pay the first half of 1077 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,599 last year's property taxes off after 1078 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,440 evicting a bunch of drug addicts that I 1079 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,040 inherited unknowingly at 5,000 bucks a 1080 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,359 shot with no rent. while I'm, you know, 1081 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:47,599 going through that process and a $20,000 1082 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,839 remodel on the unit. This is all very 1083 00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:52,079 real numbers. We spend a million bucks 1084 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,560 in town on rentals and we haven't made a 1085 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,359 penny. So, but I think we're going to 1086 00:43:57,359 --> 00:43:58,720 make money the next year and then the 1087 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,079 taxes go up and then I think we're going 1088 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,440 to make money the next year and then the 1089 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,319 association fees go up. All that we do 1090 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:08,640 is pass this on to the tenants and $125 1091 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,720 a door seems very extravagant um for I 1092 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,480 guess the size of the town or what I see 1093 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,280 in other cities. And we do just I'm I'm 1094 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,560 probably going to write something into 1095 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,240 my leases and pass that directly onto my 1096 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,960 tenants like I do move in fees. $200 1097 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,720 moving fee gets passed directly onto the 1098 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,480 tenant. So, we're trying to do some 1099 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,920 affordable housing. And the last person 1100 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,160 that looked at one of my units for lease 1101 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,599 here in town said I I asked I said is 1102 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:36,960 why are you here? Well, this is the 1103 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,040 cheapest place in Wright County that I 1104 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,760 can find to live. Okay, thank you. You 1105 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,680 know, um so passed on the costs. One of 1106 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,240 the things when I unfortunately I don't 1107 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,960 have my letter here that I got that I 1108 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,119 was given from the association, not from 1109 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,760 the city about what you guys are have 1110 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,720 passed already. I was I was confused 1111 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:01,040 reading through it if it's a two-year 1112 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,560 inspection versus a three-year 1113 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,160 inspection. I didn't really understand 1114 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,319 how often the inspections were going to 1115 00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:11,119 be or if the original dues, the original 1116 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,839 cost to license something was the same 1117 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:18,079 as the later inspections. Some of that 1118 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:19,680 was kind of mis I couldn't really 1119 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,240 understand. Sounded like it contradicted 1120 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,560 itself in the paperwork. 1121 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,359 Um, so I just went through and told my 1122 00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,200 tenants I was raising their rents. I got 1123 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,040 one old lady says I got to move out. 1124 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,480 I can't have her move out. I'm going to 1125 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,119 have to throw all that remodel into her 1126 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,359 apartment. I've got other ones that are 1127 00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:43,599 also saying that younger ones saying I 1128 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,040 can't. We're going to have to give our 1129 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,359 notice. I tried to go to 1400. The girl 1130 00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:50,880 settled at 1,500 or 1350 to stay for 6 1131 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,440 months. The other one I they're strong 1132 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,720 iron. They're going to they're going to 1133 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:58,240 leave me empty if I raise their rents. 1134 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,440 No, my fees go up regardless. 1135 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,560 Pretty soon I'm going to have to 1136 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,240 refinance that loan and I'm going to be 1137 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,079 negative. It's not really and I I you 1138 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:09,440 know, actually the next one I have 1139 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,880 coming open, I'm going to put it up for 1140 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,079 sale because it's just been one thing 1141 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,440 after the next. Can't get contractors to 1142 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,240 come to Montro. The price of, you know, 1143 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,400 even a refrigerator these days is crazy. 1144 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,560 So, at $125 a door, I was going to ask 1145 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520 that you might reconsider that fee. I 1146 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,359 just got the letter about the fees. I 1147 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:34,160 haven't even paid mine yet. So, I was 1148 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920 hoping that we were all going to lock 1149 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,079 arms and ask that these fees would be 1150 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,109 lowered. 1151 00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,359 Maybe it's too late, but I'm asking that 1152 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:45,119 the fees be lowered. I'm asking that 1153 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,960 these fees be because 1,250 bucks to my 1154 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040 little account here at my Mundy 1155 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,200 Apartments over here. here. Mindy Lane, 1156 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,720 I don't have it. 1157 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,160 >> I ain't got it. 1158 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,760 >> I'll come up with it somehow if I have 1159 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,359 to. I I think I have till the end of 1160 00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:01,839 this month before I get a fine or a fee. 1161 00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:05,280 I'm not even really sure. Um but yeah, 1162 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,200 thank you for all of that. Um 1163 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,920 and then yeah, if we had a guide of what 1164 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,040 we were expected when what to expect 1165 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640 when the inspectors come through, that'd 1166 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,400 be helpful as well. 1167 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,079 >> Thanks. Thanks very much. 1168 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:37,829 >> Thank you. 1169 00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,960 My name is Alan Williamson. I rent from 1170 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,680 the Donaldsons. I've been with them for 1171 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,960 nine years. I have no problem paying my 1172 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,359 rent, which is good. But this fee that 1173 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:54,079 you're charging, the inspections that 1174 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,480 you're doing, and the people you're 1175 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,880 choosing to do them too is ridiculous. 1176 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,839 Usually renters are people who can't 1177 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:07,599 afford to live in a home or a private 1178 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,000 home and or they choose not to live in a 1179 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,200 private home because they can't do the mowing and the snow plowing and 1180 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,910 things of that nature. needs to be done. 1181 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,520 The fee you're charging is going to 1182 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,480 raise my rent, I would estimate $20 a 1183 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,319 month. 1184 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:31,280 And for people, some people that I know, 1185 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,839 that's extravagant. They can't afford 1186 00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:36,800 $20 a month for this fee that you're 1187 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,280 charging. The other thing, it doesn't 1188 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,680 state anywhere in the letter how often 1189 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,920 you're going to do this inspection. Are 1190 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,599 you going to do it once a day? You going 1191 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,440 to do it once a week? You going to do it 1192 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,319 once a month, once a year, once every 1193 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:53,760 five years? What's the what's what's the 1194 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,559 per periodic rate? I mean, if you're not 1195 00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,480 going if you're going to wait a year to 1196 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440 do an inspection, then all the batteries 1197 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,640 can go bad on smoke alarms. All kinds of 1198 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,280 things can happen in a year. 1199 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,440 Also, why aren't you expanding this 1200 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,760 program out to private homes? This 1201 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,359 inspection needs to be done in private 1202 00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:16,000 homes just as much as it needs to be be 1203 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,119 done in apartments. So by 1204 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,359 bringing this into a small group of just 1205 00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:25,680 renters, you're discriminating against 1206 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,240 renters, you're saying you're second 1207 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:33,440 rate citizens. We don't want you here. 1208 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,280 And to me, it's a travesty. 1209 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,750 I I believe that this 1210 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,880 program that you're doing is illegal. Uh 1211 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,520 it's discriminatory 1212 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,319 and I have a feeling that the state of 1213 00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:54,000 Minnesota and the city of Monro and all 1214 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640 these other cities that's adopting this 1215 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200 principle is end going to end up in a 1216 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,480 class action lawsuit. 1217 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,960 That's all I have to say. Thank you. 1218 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:11,589 >> Thank you. 1219 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:15,760 Hello, I'm Bill Fiser. Uh, I guess my 1220 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960 address 7062 6th Street Southeast 1221 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,480 Buffalo. 1222 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,200 Um, I am vice president of the Country 1223 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,640 View Estates and uh, I guess I'm kind of 1224 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,359 ditto on everything that's kind of been 1225 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:33,839 said before me. Um, I personally have 1226 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:36,079 never been contacted by the city or 1227 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,960 anyone of the city. Um, I think there's 1228 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,839 a lot of hearsay going on. 1229 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:43,920 Like I'd heard that the trailer courts 1230 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,680 weren't going to get inspected or what 1231 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,079 have you. And and so I think because 1232 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,400 there was never a workshop or what have 1233 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,200 you. Um there's a lot of 1234 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,839 miscommunication 1235 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,839 and things uh going around because 1236 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:02,240 nobody's had a formal meeting to really 1237 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,800 go over some of the documents that I 1238 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,079 have kind of received secondhand. Um I 1239 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,160 think were preliminary things that 1240 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,000 things did change out of those 1241 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,680 documents. Um as whatever did get final, 1242 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,240 I guess. I don't I like I say I don't 1243 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,760 know. I don't uh I haven't uh registered 1244 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,520 any of my units and what have you. Um 1245 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000 just seems to be over and over more and 1246 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,440 more government overreach in my opinion. 1247 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,559 And uh I used to have 21 rental units. 1248 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:36,400 I'm down to eight and I'm actually 1249 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400 redoing one in Country View and selling 1250 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,520 it. I the least amount of these rentals 1251 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,559 I can have I have no rights anymore and 1252 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,280 um it's a government overreach. just 1253 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,839 gets to be too much. But I would like to 1254 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:54,079 see uh some kind of a workshop or what 1255 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,960 have you and and get this nailed down to 1256 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,520 who's who and what and get all the 1257 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,520 landlords um notified and and then 1258 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,480 notified of what is what are the rules, 1259 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,720 what do we need to do and what have you 1260 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,960 that way. So, 1261 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,920 thank you. 1262 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,800 >> Thank you. 1263 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,309 All 1264 00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:24,319 right. Anyone else want to speak? 1265 00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,400 Come on up. 1266 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,359 >> I'll be very quick. I'm Scott Stovone 1267 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:30,720 with Stomo Real Estate and Property 1268 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,400 Management. We manage multiple 1269 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,040 properties here in Montro and all around 1270 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,960 the area. Um the biggest thing my 1271 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,160 question for you is what we are having 1272 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,240 issues with other cities when it comes 1273 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,960 to the inspections nowadays. Um we're 1274 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,720 having a lot of tenants that are 1275 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,240 refusing to allow the inspectors into 1276 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,040 the their homes 1277 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,920 and for good reason. You we all watch 1278 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,079 the news um and they're scared. They 1279 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,000 know us, trust us. We do our 1280 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160 inspections. they're fine with that. But 1281 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,880 when someone official comes in, it 1282 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,160 scares them. So, and that's going to 1283 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,920 happen in your community, too. You got 1284 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,760 to figure out what are you going to do 1285 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,079 when that happens. Are you going to pull 1286 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:19,359 that rental license? Are you going to 1287 00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:25,359 kick them out of the street? What is going to happen at that point 1288 00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:29,119 for them? All right, that's it. 1289 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:29,920 >> Thank you. 1290 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,510 >> Thanks. 1291 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200 All right. We got anyone else who would 1292 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:43,829 like to speak? 1293 00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:47,760 Doesn't look like we do. All right. Um, 1294 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000 here's what I'm going to propose. I I'd 1295 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,960 like to have a workshop with all of you. 1296 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,599 Um, let's sit down. Let's kind of go 1297 00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:58,000 over this ordinance. Um, and get your 1298 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,319 guys' feedback on this. Um, we are more 1299 00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:01,760 than willing to work with you guys on 1300 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,800 this. Um, so I think that should 1301 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,000 probably be our next step here. Um, if 1302 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,880 that's suitable for you guys. Again, I 1303 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,160 mean, we're more than willing to work 1304 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,880 with you. Um, I mean, the lack of 1305 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,359 communication. Yep. I I mean, the city 1306 00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:19,280 will own that. You know, we apologize 1307 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,800 for that, but let's let's sit down. 1308 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,559 Let's have a workshop. Let's go through 1309 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:24,160 this and let's hammer it out and make 1310 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,319 sure it's kind of fair for everybody. 1311 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:28,240 Does that sound sound good? 1312 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,680 >> Yeah. 1313 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,640 Absolutely. 1314 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,119 >> Quick question. 1315 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:31,839 >> Yeah, of course. 1316 00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:33,760 >> With that with the fees and the 1317 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,870 inspections, the insp 1318 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,839 workshop. 1319 00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:41,680 >> Yeah, I'm going to suggest that we do 1320 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,079 put a pause on that right now. Um I'm 1321 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,160 guessing we probably need a motion to 1322 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,280 pause that. But um yeah, I would uh I 1323 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,480 would think we should probably put a 1324 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,160 pause on that for now until we can sit 1325 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,200 down and 1326 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,079 >> follow the ones that inspection. 1327 00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,240 >> Yep. I knew that was coming. What do we 1328 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:04,950 do from there? 1329 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,670 » What are our thoughts here? 1330 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,040 » Yeah. 1331 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,119 >> No, no. I I I totally I totally 1332 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,040 understand. I was I was thinking that 1333 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,559 through my head as everybody was talking 1334 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,319 what that would look like and I I don't 1335 00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:19,440 know what that's going to look like 1336 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,280 right at this moment in time. 1337 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,319 >> Yeah. 1338 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,880 >> Just comment in what your response was. 1339 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,599 See, one of the items that I forgot to 1340 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,640 ask about is I have some tenants that 1341 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,640 are out of state for the winter. 1342 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,359 >> Mhm. 1343 00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:36,160 >> You know, and they're not returning. 1344 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,319 They have security on their home. They 1345 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:41,839 have video in their house and I don't 1346 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:42,720 have access 1347 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,240 >> right 1348 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,319 >> and I was told that I could possibly be 1349 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:49,119 fined for every month until they get 1350 00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:52,559 home. But that shouldn't be 1351 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,799 >> that shouldn't be work. 1352 00:55:54,799 --> 00:56:01,119 >> Yep. I I agree. I agree. So, let's set up a workshop. Like to work 1353 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,839 with you guys on this. Um, you know, as 1354 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,440 far as the pause and everything, we can 1355 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,000 figure that out during the workshop. I, 1356 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,200 like I said, I've been racking my brain 1357 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,400 as you guys were all talking, trying to 1358 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960 figure out how that would work. But, um, 1359 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,720 so, yeah, let's set that up. Council, we 1360 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,710 good with that? 1361 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,960 » I'm good with that. I would recommend 1362 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,520 since we've had issues with mail, can 1363 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,520 each landlord supply uh an email address 1364 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,839 to the city so we can get direct contact 1365 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:33,040 because I want to make sure you guys get 1366 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,079 that. 1367 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:35,680 >> Thank you. 1368 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,359 >> Those of us who have registered should 1369 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,119 have our email. 1370 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:39,520 >> Yeah. 1371 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,200 >> Yep. 1372 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:46,069 >> Send them registration. 1373 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,480 So I do know that um this information 1374 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:57,109 was sent out like months ago. Um 1375 00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:02,390 » so then how then how did you 1376 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,799 by the end of the month that was the 1377 00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:07,760 notification I had to call find out what 1378 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,440 this all about. So, all of this 1379 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,520 paperwork started going out in October 1380 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,839 and you know, obviously we can't control 1381 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:16,799 it once it leaves the city. Um, but we 1382 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,400 certainly have prepared those documents 1383 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,520 and sent them out. We did struggle with 1384 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,680 sending information to Country View 1385 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,440 because we don't have those owners 1386 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,760 names. Um, I do have copies of emails 1387 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,200 here where we started asking for that 1388 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,280 information in August and we were denied 1389 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400 the information. So we we did, you know, 1390 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,160 in fairness, we did have a difficult 1391 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,400 time getting a hold of owners at at 1392 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,040 Country View because when we contact 1393 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,799 when we made contact with that person, 1394 00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:44,079 we were unable to 1395 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,520 >> Let's do this. Let's let's not worry 1396 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,119 about the communication piece. I mean, 1397 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,200 that's over and done. It's water in the 1398 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,559 bridge. We don't need to sit here and go 1399 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,480 back and forth on it. Let's just let's 1400 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,839 get a meeting set up. Let's get a 1401 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,240 workshop set up and we can we can start 1402 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,160 from there. We'll just kind of I won't 1403 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,680 say start from scratch, but get your 1404 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,200 guys' input on what this would look 1405 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,200 like. I just want to get comment on the 1406 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,040 rent. I mean, when the rent goes through 1407 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,240 the city, it may be 10, 15 days before 1408 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,480 the owners get that rent. So, there is 1409 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,319 an issue with Montro's mail and we all 1410 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:15,599 know that issues with Howard Lake. Yep. 1411 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:16,880 >> All straight down. 1412 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,520 >> So, I guess when we say that, we're not 1413 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,040 attacking the city, right? 1414 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,400 >> But we're just coming up with the facts 1415 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,599 that we did not receive, 1416 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:24,240 >> right? 1417 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,040 >> Yep. Nope. Totally understand. So, 1418 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,599 all right. So, we will have the city get 1419 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:32,880 a hold of you guys. We'll set up a 1420 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,880 workshop and kind of go through 1421 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,240 everything, kind of hash everything out 1422 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,920 and come up with something that works 1423 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,839 for all involved. 1424 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,240 >> All right. We need a motion for that. I 1425 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,760 don't think so. 1426 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,680 >> Okay. 1427 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,680 All right. Are we good? 1428 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,960 >> Perfect. 1429 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,880 >> Love to hear 1430 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,319 just to make sure that we're all on the 1431 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:52,960 same page. 1432 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,240 >> Yes, sir. 1433 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,720 Can we all of us that are here email to 1434 00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,440 the city? 1435 00:58:59,440 --> 00:58:59,920 >> Yep. 1436 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:02,799 >> To Christie and just confirm this is the 1437 00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:05,760 email. This is get us on the list and 1438 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,760 make sure that 1439 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,040 we are all in their system so that we 1440 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,480 get the back. 1441 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,680 >> Yep. The order to call the 1442 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,240 >> all of us here right for the owners to 1443 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,400 take it. 1444 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,079 required to register your your 1445 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,640 utilities. Your information's on there, 1446 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,880 our email, our contact, all of that's on 1447 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,000 that on there. But 1448 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,480 just to make sure we're following up, 1449 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,839 let's everybody here email 1450 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:39,520 back to confirm you're on the list so 1451 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,240 that when this workshop comes together, 1452 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,760 there should be a group email that can 1453 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,839 be, you know, 30, 40, 50, 60, whoever 1454 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:52,079 come into the workshop 1455 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:53,760 >> that there's a group email that comes 1456 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,799 back out and we all get it and we're all 1457 00:59:56,799 --> 00:59:58,880 on the same page. 1458 00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,520 >> Sound good? 1459 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:07,670 >> Sounds good to me. 1460 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,799 » Sounds like somebody out there is 1461 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:11,359 bringing the donuts. So, who it's going 1462 01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:16,309 to be? 1463 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:20,630 Wow. Welcome to Montro. 1464 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,839 All right, if we got no further 1465 01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:23,680 discussion, we're going to move along to 1466 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,480 classification and compensation study. 1467 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,920 >> Mayor and council, included in your 1468 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,240 packet tonight, there was a formal 1469 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,160 proposal from DDA and Associates um for 1470 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,520 a classification and compensation study. 1471 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,280 I did reach out to four different 1472 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,280 companies. Uh two responded. The other 1473 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520 one I did not get a formal proposal from 1474 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,640 Abdo. Um he quickly this afternoon sent 1475 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:54,640 me an email with an amount. Um so um his 1476 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,349 amount that he sent me was 11,300. 1477 01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:00,640 » That was Abdo. 1478 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,119 >> I'm sorry. 1479 01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:04,400 >> That was Abdo. 1480 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,599 And the other one included in the packet 1481 01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:11,839 that we received. Um there was a couple 1482 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:13,760 different options. 1483 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,119 Um, I would say to be most comparison, 1484 01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,359 uh, the fourth option that they included 1485 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:21,839 would probably be apples to apples to 1486 01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,079 abd,000 1487 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:26,960 >> and that was 9,000. 1488 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,559 So, I did ask about a timeline for this. 1489 01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,880 Um, they would it would take about 2 to 1490 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,480 3 months to complete. Uh, Abdo 1491 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,319 recommended waiting until after the 1492 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:41,119 salaries came out at the end of June. Um 1493 01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:43,599 I disagree with that and believe we need 1494 01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:46,160 to get moving forward with this um so 1495 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,359 that perhaps we can have it done in May 1496 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:51,119 completed. 1497 01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,040 If we wait until the end of June for 1498 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,280 that study to come out, we are looking 1499 01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:08,390 at an end date of October. 1500 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:15,430 Council, what's your thoughts? 1501 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,000 I will also say Abdo did find that they 1502 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,160 did one 10 years ago. 1503 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,599 >> So that was probably our last one. 1504 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,280 >> That was the last one and they should be 1505 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,400 done every 3 to five. 1506 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,240 >> Okay. 1507 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,799 >> I do think it's very important that we 1508 01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:30,079 do this. 1509 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:32,720 >> I agree and I uh plan to have it going 1510 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,359 forward. We can pick so many years 1511 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:37,359 >> at a later date, but to get it on a 1512 01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:37,839 plan. 1513 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:39,359 >> Yep. 1514 01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:42,720 I do also agree that we need to do these 1515 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,240 more regularly, like you said, the three 1516 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,839 to five years, but I agree with Jackie. 1517 01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:47,440 I think waiting 1518 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,440 >> and not having it done to October is not 1519 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,240 good for us, 1520 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,750 >> right? 1521 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,839 » And I think with kind of the reorg that 1522 01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:59,200 city's going through, I think this is a 1523 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,510 perfect time to do it. So, 1524 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,960 what are your guys' thoughts? 1525 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,799 I mean, obviously I like the 9,000 1526 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:13,119 better than the 11,300. 1527 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:14,799 And you said, Jackie, these are pretty 1528 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:17,920 much apples to apples. Uh, you said 1529 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,079 number four here to what? 1530 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,839 >> Yeah, I can send around. I put a 1531 01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:23,119 screenshot on my phone because that's 1532 01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:25,440 all I have. It's a number. 1533 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,880 >> That's fine. 1534 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,670 >> Where in the budget is that? 1535 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,039 » I'm going to figure that out. 1536 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,720 >> Okay. 1537 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,119 Um, probably part of it I was going to 1538 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:38,960 put through more like a council 1539 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,280 miscellaneous has kind of a larger line 1540 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,559 item that is available and nothing is 1541 01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,480 occupied by that or planned for that 1542 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:53,190 amount. 1543 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,760 » What's the fee you're looking for? 1544 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,559 >> Um, 1545 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:57,200 >> 9,000. 1546 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,559 through Yep. DDA and Associates. 1547 01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:02,799 >> David Drone. 1548 01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:08,789 Yeah, that's what we did when um 1549 01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:10,160 trying to think what city administrator 1550 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,039 name, but I remember that. Okay. I say 1551 01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,520 the other two uh Keystone just had no 1552 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,440 availability. They're completely bogged 1553 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,640 down. And then Ellers, I did not even 1554 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,400 get a remark back from Ellers. 1555 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,920 >> That one surprised me. 1556 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,720 >> I agree. 1557 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,000 >> They would have been on top of it. 1558 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,960 >> And I did reach back out to Ellers and 1559 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:37,270 still nothing. 1560 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,280 I'll make a motion to approve the $9,000 1561 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,880 for the classification and compensation 1562 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,760 study. 1563 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,039 >> I'll second. 1564 01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:46,319 >> Any further discussion? 1565 01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:47,119 >> Mr. Nelson, 1566 01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:47,680 >> I. 1567 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,640 >> Miss Paradise, 1568 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,200 >> I. 1569 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,559 >> Mr. Vontoma, 1570 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:51,280 >> I. 1571 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,319 >> Miss Otto, 1572 01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:52,799 >> I 1573 01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:59,430 >> I'll vote. I passes 5. 1574 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,480 All right. Moving on to Moto Haven 1575 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:09,270 autocross concept. 1576 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:25,829 You're up. 1577 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:36,710 Nope. You ready? 1578 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,720 Hi, 1579 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,440 >> thank you. 1580 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:39,760 >> Yeah. 1581 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,640 >> Uh I'm Rick Harrison, Rick Harrison site 1582 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,319 design. I'm going to introduce the team 1583 01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:46,960 here in a minute. 1584 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,920 Uh this um autocross is a legacy for the 1585 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,680 Thompson family. We've got uh Jay-Hawk 1586 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,760 over here if you want to stand up for a 1587 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,160 second. Uh 1588 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,039 he's really uh the one that 1589 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,359 you know I met Jay-Hawk maybe 1590 01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:09,680 >> I am an older guy 1591 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,480 >> year and a half ago and it was like this 1592 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,119 energy that he had that kind of drew me 1593 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:19,599 in. But uh this is him 55 years ago when 1594 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:22,160 he discovered autocross for the first 1595 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,960 time. And uh it pretty much dove into 1596 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,880 this and raised his family around 1597 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,000 autocross. And I was a founder of the 1598 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,599 Minnesota Auto Sports Club 53 years ago. 1599 01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:40,160 to him. Um, and then his son, uh, John 1600 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,839 Thompson, 1601 01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:44,640 uh, you know, they he's he's taken on 1602 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:49,520 that. Uh, and for John, I I just went on 1603 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,480 to that website and I I found in 1997, 1604 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,200 he was number two in his class on 1605 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,720 Minnesota Autoports Club. And, uh, they 1606 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,359 raised their family around it and and 1607 01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:05,200 they they pretty much are experts on it. 1608 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:10,240 Um Rick Storland is the architect on the 1609 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,760 units and Rick was uh involved in the 1610 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,039 original uh autoplex that Bruno put 1611 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:20,559 together that started this whole trend. 1612 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:23,920 And uh these are not autoplexes. These 1613 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,200 are light industrial but uh he and uh 1614 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,839 Jay-Hawk Thompson has been working on 1615 01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:34,480 perfecting this unit. So this is light 1616 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,319 industrial. This is could be 1617 01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:39,039 autorelated, but it's business related 1618 01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:42,720 for number one. Uh I've had a passion of 1619 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,400 uh uh cars uh since I've been 15. I've 1620 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,000 had some pretty wild stuff. Uh but I I 1621 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,200 uh I'm head of the Aston Martin owners 1622 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,079 group for the Midwest and been an Aston 1623 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,599 Martin owner for forever. Uh, but I run 1624 01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,359 my business like the automotive 1625 01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:02,960 industry. We're a research and 1626 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,440 development company to discover new 1627 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,200 technologies and methods for land 1628 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,880 development. And we've been doing that 1629 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,680 for about 35 years. We have almost 2,000 1630 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,039 projects around the the world using 1631 01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:18,400 these methods. And Montro 25 years ago 1632 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,600 for pilot land, I did these two sites. I 1633 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,600 think I did another site, but I couldn't 1634 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,040 um find it. The one site didn't happen. 1635 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,400 Uh I did Westridge Village in Delano 20 1636 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,359 years ago and more recently Green Bar 1637 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,000 Hills. Uh that was mine. And I've got 1638 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,640 another 80 acre site in um Maple Lake 1639 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,199 that's not ready to come on the market 1640 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:47,120 yet. And then we've got the uh autocross 1641 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,319 track on the souththeast corner of 12 1642 01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,159 and 25. 1643 01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:55,520 Uh Rosano Ree is uh general counsel. Uh 1644 01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:00,239 he's uh That's a nice nice photo. 1645 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,440 >> I've been waiting for this. 1646 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:07,279 He didn't know I was going to do this. 1647 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,279 It's amazing what you could do online. 1648 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,960 >> Yeah, no kidding. But uh I met uh so 1649 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,040 Rousano's been in the banking industry, 1650 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,000 mortgage industry and uh then after the 1651 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,199 recession he's uh was head of head sales 1652 01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,239 at uh Aston Martin now at Ferrari and 1653 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,719 very well connected in town and he's 1654 01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:28,799 going to be helping. 1655 01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:31,600 Andrew Baronburgg, this is uh Andrew and 1656 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,839 his Corvette 1657 01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:38,880 uh that they picked it up. So we're car people. Um 1658 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,480 a little bit about the site. It's 100 1659 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:43,359 acres approximately. 1660 01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:48,640 Um we um Andy met with um uh the mindot 1661 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,880 people and they preferred the entrance 1662 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,440 across Arizona. This is some recent 1663 01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:56,800 changes in the plan. Uh so this plan 1664 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,560 reflects that and of course this is 1665 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,679 concept. concept means, you know, as we 1666 01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:04,159 start surveying and engineering, we we 1667 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:06,960 hope to get it close, but uh there could 1668 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,000 be changes. Uh we we'll have an entrance 1669 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,920 off of 25. Uh the lanes will be 25 foot 1670 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,480 wide. Um and the autocross is in the 1671 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,560 middle. So, there's really two 1672 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,280 businesses here. 1673 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,000 The um industrial, we call them town 1674 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,640 homes. Uh uh these there's 178 proposed 1675 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,920 units. That could change depending on uh 1676 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,280 engineering, but uh probably 178's on 1677 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,280 the high side. 1678 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,239 Um and then the tracks are variable and 1679 01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,080 I'm going to talk a little bit about 1680 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,880 that uh in in a bit, but I want to start 1681 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,960 out with the um the town homes. U 1682 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:53,600 detention is proposed in those areas. Um 1683 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,400 there's these will be a steel 1684 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,280 construction. They want to open up a 1685 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,320 local plant not just for these units but 1686 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,159 for regional 1687 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,800 uh units and the clubhouse is going to 1688 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,360 be by the entrance. We'll talk about 1689 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,400 that in a minute. Now what's interesting 1690 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,920 is 1691 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,600 um 1692 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,679 when I saw the top I thought how we're 1693 01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:19,840 going to pull this off. So, we did run 1694 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,400 some initial earth work and we got the 1695 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,360 earth work to balance. Now, it does 1696 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,560 drop, but it drops in like a half a 1697 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,800 mile. So, it's going to be just a slight 1698 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,640 slope that no one's even going to 1699 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,840 notice, 1700 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,800 >> but it does balance out. So, we checked 1701 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,199 that before we even 1702 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:40,159 pursued the site. 1703 01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:41,520 >> Right. 1704 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,600 Uh Moto Haven Executive Estates are the 1705 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,120 um industrial units and they're in four 1706 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,239 unit buildings. Uh each building has 1707 01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:53,920 four units that could be configured in 1708 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,560 one business or two or three or what you 1709 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,880 know it it's variable but they're 1710 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:03,280 modules. Um Jay-Hawk and and Rick can 1711 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,199 talk you know more in details for 1712 01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,760 questions on that. It is not an 1713 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,520 autoplex. 1714 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,520 It's um it could be, you know, uh for 1715 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,239 car storage. It's it's a light 1716 01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,880 industrial PUD. 1717 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,199 They're modular and they're consistent. 1718 01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:23,920 They're for sale units, so you're going 1719 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,920 to buy the units. So, that's why we call 1720 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,080 them like industrial town homes. They're 1721 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,840 not for rent. They have low uh traffic, 1722 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,320 so they're not like retail stores with a 1723 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,120 lot of traffic. And uh so that's limited 1724 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,600 customer parking. And again, they're not 1725 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,080 specifically vehicle oriented, but we 1726 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,880 anticipate a lot of them are are going 1727 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,840 to be uh vehicle oriented. 1728 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,000 Um again, each four uh pod uh can be 1729 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,640 separated and uh each unit is uh 60 foot 1730 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:02,080 deep and 30 foot wide, multi-story. 1731 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,199 Um, and then what's unique is this 20 1732 01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:09,120 foot outside storage 1733 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,800 and um 80 foot deep. And I don't know of 1734 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,960 any of these units like I'm in a 1735 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,560 industrial unit. I just thought that 1736 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,120 this was kind of brilliant and very 1737 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,760 unique and I thought it would be a real 1738 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,360 big plus. They're concrete construction 1739 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,280 so you've got that soundproofed um 1740 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,920 Jay-Hawk likes to say bulletproof. I I 1741 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,920 hope that neighbors are not shooting at 1742 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,560 each other. 1743 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,709 >> Yeah. 1744 01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:42,320 » Um 1745 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,120 but but for fire they're they're um 1746 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,239 they're they're they're concrete 1747 01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,880 relatively fireproof, but that 40 foot 1748 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,239 separation is also uh fireproof. Now 1749 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:56,880 this is outside my my office. I'm in a 1750 01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,880 warehouse and you can see Total Comfort 1751 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:05,040 Parks up the parking lot. Um, Phantom 1752 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,199 Screens at night parks up the parking 1753 01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:09,840 lot and then there's times where someone 1754 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,600 visiting my office has to go to the 1755 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,880 other end of the parking lot just 1756 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,640 because they park it up because there's 1757 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,280 no outside storage. 1758 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,880 Um, this is my office. Excuse the mess, 1759 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:26,239 but there's a literal hole in my wall 1760 01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:27,679 that goes to the neighbor. I could look 1761 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:30,960 into my neighbors. There's no fire. If 1762 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,920 they caught fire, I'm I'm I'm bad shape. 1763 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,880 As far as soundproofing, two doors down 1764 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,040 was the game show. You couldn't have a 1765 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,679 louder business. They were there for a 1766 01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:44,400 decade. They just moved to West End. 1767 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,320 That was my neighbor. nothing I could do 1768 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,400 about it. I had to listen to that. So, 1769 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,480 uh just a little tour of what these are 1770 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,400 like. You have, you know, outside 1771 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,040 storage and in this case it's, you know, 1772 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,400 this is auto oriented, but again, you 1773 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,320 could have 20 foot ceilings. I could 1774 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,719 tell you we have 20 foot ceilings in in 1775 01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:07,760 our uh office. I can tell you there 1776 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,840 isn't a single tenant that's using 20 1777 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,800 foot ceilings. None. Nobody is. It's 1778 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,000 just empty space. But these could have 1779 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,880 20 foot ceilings, but they're um you 1780 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,000 know, this is an example of the a spa 1781 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,080 and a gazebo business. They can have 1782 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,199 that space to display their gazeos. 1783 01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,280 Every unit's going to have an upper 1784 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,800 deck. 1785 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,199 Every unit can see the racetrack from 1786 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,000 the upper deck. So, there's a this upper 1787 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,719 area. You go down the steps. Now, this 1788 01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:41,120 floor can be configured any which way. 1789 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,080 You This one has a bedroom. It has a 1790 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,320 little kitchenet, office space, 1791 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,920 bathroom, 1792 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,840 you know, if if someone needed to stay 1793 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,600 overnight or or work late or weekends. 1794 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,320 Then um then the the lower level and 1795 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,159 again this could have 20 foot ceilings, 1796 01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,400 it could be two one story, it could be 1797 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,719 two stories, but it's the same module. 1798 01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:07,280 So each business will be able to vary 1799 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,040 and that's what makes it unique. Um, 1800 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,679 so the outside storage would look about 1801 01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:16,080 like that. And and this is we try to get 1802 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,080 it as close to the actual architecture 1803 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,440 as possible. The thermostat building 1804 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:24,400 uses uh the panels including the ceiling 1805 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,480 will be concrete. So uh it's it's they 1806 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:31,840 do the u the the floors and the ceilings 1807 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,640 will also be concrete. And these are 1808 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,560 some examples of the the units. Um the 1809 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,880 initial ramp I talked with Charlie the 1810 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,600 CEO and he thought that 10 employees 1811 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,239 originally ramping up to 20 in that 1812 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:47,840 plant. 1813 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,159 Um and it's going to serve a large 1814 01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:53,600 geographic area and uh Jay-Hawk thinks 1815 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,040 they'll be up to about 35 sales staff to 1816 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,080 serve that. Now the competition 1817 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,239 which really isn't because this is the 1818 01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:06,000 autoplex is West End and Delano. 1819 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,920 Um, you can see these units are 1820 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,800 expensive and it says sold out and one 1821 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,320 left at $350,000. 1822 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,159 It doesn't say you can have your 1823 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,640 business in there. 1824 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,239 That's the difference. Who is it perfect 1825 01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:22,800 for? Just like every other auto, but 1826 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,800 you're not running your business legally 1827 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,360 out of there. This again is not an auto. 1828 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,199 It's light industrial. If you want to 1829 01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:31,840 store your cars, that's great. That's 1830 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,840 the difference. 1831 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,760 Um it's more like where I rent. 1832 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,760 Uh speed is the um 1833 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,910 autocross 1834 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,560 um entity that it's speed is the entity 1835 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,880 that that runs the autocross portion of 1836 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,560 this. 1837 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,239 Um 1838 01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:57,520 it'll be an ideal 1839 01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,360 platform 1840 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,679 uh for automotive events because of its 1841 01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:04,000 space. 1842 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,000 I go to these caravans and there's a a a facility just like this 1843 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,960 around um Rogers. I made the mistake of 1844 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,840 going there for an event. 1845 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,040 I pulled in all of a sudden there's five 1846 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,760 or six cars behind me and I my tolerance 1847 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,440 for these shows was like a half an hour 1848 01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:27,600 and I'm out of there. I was stuck there 1849 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,440 the whole day. there was no getting out 1850 01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:35,280 and uh you know so this is not an event 1851 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,840 spot 1852 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,120 when you look at speed we're looking at 1853 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:47,520 the uh community center and the um and the track 1854 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,520 it stands for spirited educational 1855 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,840 driving learning the limits of car 1856 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,360 control and so most people know how to 1857 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,920 drive a car but during an emergency 1858 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,679 mergency, how are they going to respond? 1859 01:19:01,679 --> 01:19:05,280 Autocross is the ideal training ground 1860 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,520 for that. So, um, John Thompson, he's 1861 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,080 going to head up that whole thing. 1862 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,280 Um, I personally don't do autocross. I I 1863 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,760 but I I don't race a car. I don't drive 1864 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,360 it hard, but my son does. 1865 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,880 And 1866 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,960 you're not going to hit a wall. You're 1867 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,280 not going to hit something. It's just 1868 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,960 cones 1869 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,719 and it's safe and it's not fast. 1870 01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:36,800 Um, and so John's been doing this his 1871 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,199 lifetime. Jay-Hawk has been doing this 1872 01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:40,960 his lifetime. And they're going to be 1873 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,560 the training facility and they're going 1874 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,960 to put that together. 1875 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,800 And it's for anybody, any car, any any 1876 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,040 uh any four-wheel vehic ve vehicle. So, 1877 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,960 anybody benefits from learning how to 1878 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,360 drive safer. 1879 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,040 Um, 1880 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,880 and those courses because they're just 1881 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,080 cones vary depending on who you are, 1882 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,360 what you want to learn. Um, emergency 1883 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,840 crews, fire and police 1884 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,159 training ground for that, too. And, um, 1885 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,320 you know, snow and ice recovery when 1886 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,760 there's snow and ice, it you know, it it 1887 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,880 could still run. So, that's the training 1888 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,920 component, but autocross is also a 1889 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,360 competition. 1890 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,920 So, it's a sport. 1891 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,960 It's to um now you're pressured to make 1892 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,960 the best time. 1893 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,600 Uh generally, 1894 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,480 it's uh slow. 1895 01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:41,679 It's that's a very tight course. And 1896 01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:45,840 it's it's um requires a helmet, a car, 1897 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,880 and a driver's license. 1898 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,400 So I started I you know I'm not an 1899 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,320 expert on it so I you know but I 1900 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,920 investigate these things. I'm thinking 1901 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,000 well how many other autocross tracks are 1902 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,280 there? And if you go on the internet 1903 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,520 says no official count there's 1100 1904 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,000 autocross events every year from the 1905 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,400 sports car association of America just 1906 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,199 that one organization. 1907 01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:13,280 And there's no official registry of of 1908 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,760 autocross tracks because I couldn't find 1909 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,440 anything that actually existed. They're 1910 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,679 parking lots. Put cones in a parking 1911 01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:21,600 lot, you got an autocross track. This is 1912 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,199 an actual full-time business. 1913 01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,840 So, we believe that Montro is going to 1914 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,600 be ground zero for autocross. 1915 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,560 And um speeds rarely exceed 50 miles an 1916 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,199 hour. 5560 is tops because they're just 1917 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:42,239 you just can't get any faster. The focus 1918 01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:44,640 is on cornering. It's on timing. It's on 1919 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,480 speed. 1920 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:49,040 And um 1921 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,960 so 1922 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,280 it's about balancing the cars. Now I've 1923 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,560 taken performance courses at at Aston 1924 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,520 Martin and I learned a lot in one day. 1925 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,760 It was pretty phenomenal. 1926 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,159 I didn't know all this stuff. And this 1927 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,600 course is going to be a whole lot more 1928 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,040 accessible. It's going to be a lot 1929 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,400 cheaper than the course I took. 1930 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,400 And it's going to be local. You don't 1931 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,840 have to get on a plane and fly 1932 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,719 somewhere. There's four courses. 1933 01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:21,440 So, there'll be four events going on or 1934 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,600 four, you know, you can have four clubs 1935 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,920 uh on it at any time. The competition uh 1936 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,760 Brainer International Raceway is not an 1937 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,719 autocross. It is a racetrack. 1938 01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,600 It is a place where you could get in 1939 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,320 trouble. Now, these are videos I took on 1940 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,800 the Aston Martin day that I was there 1941 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,480 and that there's a gray DB11 in the 1942 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:48,239 background there and that car went into 1943 01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:51,760 the wall and that totaled a4 million 1944 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,199 dollar car at one event. So, it's 1945 01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:56,880 expensive. 1946 01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,719 It's very, very expensive. It's two 1947 01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:01,520 hours from Minneapolis versus 35 minutes 1948 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,840 from Minneapolis. So, this is much 1949 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,360 better location for an auto an event. 1950 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,000 The Gary Curtis driving experience is at 1951 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,400 the Rosemont's truck trainer training 1952 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,320 facility. They have six days available 1953 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,639 in 2026 for renting the track. It's high 1954 01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,960 speed. It could you could get in 1955 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,639 trouble. 1956 01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:26,480 Um so that is not competition. Elco 1957 01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:31,040 Speedways a 38 small oval which 1958 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,600 not really competition. 1959 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,199 Um, we're proposing a clubhouse with a 1960 01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:39,199 restaurant, car rental and maintenance. 1961 01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:41,120 I know that Jay-Hawk's been talking with 1962 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,960 the city. Is that going to be a city 1963 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,040 facility? 1964 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,600 You know, so this is something that will 1965 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,159 morph. That's a very big facility. uh 1966 01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:54,480 Rick designed it and um you know it 1967 01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:56,960 that's that's a really big big uh 1968 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,360 facility and and out of that's going to 1969 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,920 have rental cars for people to rent a 1970 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,440 car for the tracks 1971 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,199 >> and the maintenance of those cars will 1972 01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:09,760 be there. Uh we talked with uh um the 1973 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,400 emergency that there's a need for a 1974 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,199 helipad. So it' be at the end of this 1975 01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:17,520 Arizona Avenue 1976 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,880 >> and because it's an ideal place to uh to 1977 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,560 service and it's an incredible location 1978 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,360 for events. Locally there's over 200 1979 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:32,159 auto clubs. Um there's 1.2 to 1.4 4 1980 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,639 million auto enthusiasts in um 1981 01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,920 Minnesota, estimated 100,000 active 1982 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,639 ones, people like me that's like really 1983 01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:45,280 into it. And um there's a lot of market 1984 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,280 here. Now, one of the things that I 1985 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,800 didn't bring up before, and this is 1986 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,560 something that Jeff Cheney of Cheney 1987 01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,080 Performance and I were going to put 1988 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,120 together before the recession, we had a 1989 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,040 piece of land in uh East Bethl, is to 1990 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,960 have and and this isn't going to say 1991 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,960 that we're going to do this, but we're 1992 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,800 going to look into this. And that is to 1993 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,400 have a family restaurant that has shops. 1994 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,320 So, when you're eating, you could see 1995 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,000 cars getting customized and worked on. 1996 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,000 And this was a system that we were 1997 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,120 actually going to put together. And so 1998 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,679 while you're eating there, um, you 1999 01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:25,360 could, uh, you know, do wheels, engines, 2000 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,639 customizing all this stuff in one shop 2001 01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:30,960 spot that could be financable, which 2002 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,080 most don't have that. And, um, 2003 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,679 warrantied, 2004 01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:39,360 so you can contract it and and have, you 2005 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,120 know, watch cars getting worked at like 2006 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,760 an immersive experience. and and the 2007 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,679 recession killed that. 2008 01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:48,639 >> But um whether that is something that 2009 01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:51,280 could fit into the clubhouse uh or it 2010 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,159 even works, but 2011 01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:55,840 if we get approved tonight, then we're 2012 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,080 going to look into the feasibility of 2013 01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,760 that. So, I just thought I would show 2014 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,360 that and that would be another reason to 2015 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,040 come out to Montros. I like that. 2016 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,440 >> No alcohol, family restaurant, 2017 01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:08,480 >> good food. But uh and that that has not 2018 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:11,040 been done before, but we'll we'll look 2019 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,480 into revisiting that. 2020 01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:18,480 Um this the autocross nationals uh had 2021 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:20,880 about 1,200 people last year, 2022 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,000 participants. Uh they had to rent a 2023 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,080 facility at an airport in Lincoln, 2024 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,040 Nebraska. I would think Montrose would 2025 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,639 be a good place to be put on the map for 2026 01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:35,120 the nationals here. 2027 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,239 Um, tonight's approval, it just gets our 2028 01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:40,880 engine started. It's, you know, the 2029 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,199 money starts rolling to hire the land 2030 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:46,480 surveyor to get a good survey. The civil 2031 01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:49,280 engineering Andy gets rolling on that 2032 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,280 once we get the surveying and everything 2033 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,960 begins. 2034 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,560 um 2035 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,520 working with the Grip Steve Gripman to 2036 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,639 hone down what the PD is, the HOA, stuff 2037 01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:03,199 like that. Uh I'll probably be working 2038 01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:06,080 with them on that. Um, 2039 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,639 we'll have something that we can now go 2040 01:27:08,639 --> 01:27:10,800 to with investors and secure the 2041 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,440 financing, get that rolling, start our 2042 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,960 marketing and outreach to, you know, get 2043 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,120 the word out and get this thing really 2044 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,080 kicked off and and then reach the the 2045 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,679 finish line. That's really what we're 2046 01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:27,120 asking for tonight is the city's, 2047 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,480 you know, blessing to move forward 2048 01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:33,120 and and so we could, you know, start 2049 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,760 running with this. And that's that's 2050 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,120 what I wanted to present. And um any 2051 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,920 questions? You know, I everybody's here 2052 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,880 tonight and you know, 2053 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:49,110 >> council, you have any questions? 2054 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,960 » I do not. I was there planning and 2055 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,800 zoning and I thank you guys for coming 2056 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,400 out that night and then all of you 2057 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,800 showing up tonight to support 2058 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,199 >> Oh, 2059 01:27:57,199 --> 01:27:58,719 >> what you guys have going on here. We 2060 01:27:58,719 --> 01:27:59,679 appreciate it. 2061 01:27:59,679 --> 01:28:02,639 >> Super excited about this. 2062 01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:05,120 >> Yeah. I mean, we've had numerous 2063 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,120 discussions. Jay, you and I talk 2064 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,440 probably what, twice a week. 2065 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:11,120 >> Yeah. I haven't talked to you for a 2066 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,920 couple days, but 2067 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:14,400 >> sure. 2068 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,560 >> Yeah, I know. I'm waiting on it. 2069 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,639 Temperatures are getting warm. My wife 2070 01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:20,239 says it's been five minutes. You haven't 2071 01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:23,910 had a phone call. 2072 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,360 » Um, no. I think I mean so far everything 2073 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,120 you guys have been great to work with. I 2074 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,520 mean I I love the idea. Um, I I do 2075 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,199 believe that this is going to put 2076 01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:40,239 Mantros on the map for this. Um, 2077 01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:42,320 you know, I I had discussions with the 2078 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,360 um Ray County 2079 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,320 Missy um 2080 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,920 >> economic development partnership. 2081 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,360 >> Thank you. It's a it's a mouthful to 2082 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,960 say, so I couldn't get it all couldn't 2083 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,800 get spit it all out. Um but we did have 2084 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,040 a discussion about this uh last week. 2085 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,040 >> Yep. And I've also talked to Clay 2086 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,679 Wilford at the county um the assistant 2087 01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:01,679 county administrator was also interested 2088 01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:02,880 in hearing one for sure. 2089 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,560 >> Yep. And so we had discussion about what 2090 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,000 kind of businesses we could see coming 2091 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,040 in here. Um, so I I think I mean I'm 2092 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,800 definitely excited about this. I know 2093 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,320 there's some others on this board that 2094 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,120 are excited about this project and you 2095 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,840 know you've got my blessing going 2096 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,719 forward here. So I mean if the council 2097 01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:23,920 doesn't have any questions, I'd like to 2098 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,400 see a motion to approve the concept 2099 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,560 plan. And 2100 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,719 >> the the only thing I'll state is that I 2101 01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:32,880 knew nothing about this stuff this type 2102 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,400 of an event and center. I spoke with a 2103 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,480 few people who I would have had no clue 2104 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:40,239 and they were like, "Oh yeah, it's 2105 01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:41,440 amazing." 2106 01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:43,360 >> I think they saw it in Chayan Hassen at 2107 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,800 a temporary location. 2108 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,040 >> It's amazing what the community is here. 2109 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,520 >> So I mean 2110 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,719 I've been informed. 2111 01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:54,400 >> My wife wish I didn't have the sickness. 2112 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,440 Let me tell you, 2113 01:29:57,440 --> 01:29:59,199 >> I've been informed now. So I have no 2114 01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:01,360 further questions on it. 2115 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,960 >> Just to clarify, we don't need a motion. 2116 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,080 >> Don't need a motion. Just need a 2117 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,280 consensus to move forward. 2118 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,040 >> Perfect. Love it. Um I mean I've seen 2119 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,760 many of these autocross events and you 2120 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,679 know 2121 01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:16,560 it's definitely it's not loud. I mean 2122 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,360 like you said 55 60 m an hour is the 2123 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,440 tops and it's literally you could have a 2124 01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:23,199 Ferrari versus a Miata out there. 2125 01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:23,760 >> Yeah. 2126 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,840 >> And everything's equal. Um, 2127 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:28,560 >> yeah, I think it's 2128 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,440 >> not really 2129 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:30,000 >> Well, 2130 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:30,960 >> I know what you're saying, 2131 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,239 >> but 2132 01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:34,719 >> it really all depends on the driver. It 2133 01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:36,080 doesn't have anything to do with the car 2134 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,040 at that moment in time. Um, one piece 2135 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,800 that I do like about it is we've had 2136 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,960 discussions about, you know, bringing in 2137 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,040 the school district and their behind the 2138 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,480 wheel training and using this area for, 2139 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:50,000 you know, winter driving and stuff like 2140 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,480 that. I mean, I have a daughter who's 2141 01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:53,760 getting ready to get, you know, start 2142 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,360 the behind the wheel. Um, you know, 2143 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,360 there's a lot of people in town that are 2144 01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,120 doing the same thing and you start 2145 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,880 thinking about how they react during, 2146 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,719 you know, snowstorms and stuff like 2147 01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:06,639 that. I mean, 2148 01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:08,719 having a wide open area like this 2149 01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:10,480 without, 2150 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:11,679 you know, worrying about hitting 2151 01:31:11,679 --> 01:31:13,360 anything, I think is just a great 2152 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,760 training tool that we can, you mean, 2153 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:21,600 certainly utilize, utilize, that was, a tough word for me. Um, yeah. 2154 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,120 And I think as long as we have 2155 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,760 consensus, I think we can 2156 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,159 give you the thumbs up here. And 2157 01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:29,520 >> that just means I got to talk to Jay 2158 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,600 more, 2159 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,520 >> which I love, Jay. 2160 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:40,070 >> Well, I intend. 2161 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:44,239 » You have never had a big long story. 2162 01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:46,719 >> And Jay sucked me in like 2163 01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:49,280 >> Yeah. I don't know what he he does, but 2164 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,239 he does. You know, the passion. 2165 01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:55,520 >> All right. All right. So, 2166 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:56,639 >> everyone agrees. 2167 01:31:56,639 --> 01:31:58,080 >> Yeah. I say go for it. 2168 01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,360 >> Yes. Thank you. 2169 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:00,400 >> There you go. 2170 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,080 >> Off and running. 2171 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,440 >> Thank you. 2172 01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:08,550 very much. 2173 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,320 » Excellent presentation as always, too, 2174 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,040 by the way. 2175 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:11,600 >> Thank you. 2176 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,199 >> Next time we'll try to get some VR stuff 2177 01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:14,639 going on. 2178 01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:17,199 >> Oh, boy. Here we go. Long story and I'll 2179 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:18,400 be short. 2180 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:19,440 >> Yeah. Okay. 2181 01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,679 >> This will keep the crazies with the 2182 01:32:21,679 --> 01:32:24,480 redness moments off of the street. 2183 01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:24,960 >> Exactly. 2184 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,840 >> And I have to admit I've been one of 2185 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:28,960 >> I may have too 2186 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,280 >> kids and they were actually in the cars 2187 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,080 when I was street racing. So 2188 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,280 >> you're not supposed to say that. Right. 2189 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:41,510 Counties right here. 2190 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,239 » Anybody can go fast in a straight line. 2191 01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:46,239 put some terms in and see what you 2192 01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:46,719 >> Exactly. 2193 01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:48,239 >> That's how I got into that. 2194 01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:49,840 >> Yep. Exactly. 2195 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,320 >> And every kid should try it at least 2196 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:52,800 once. 2197 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,880 >> I totally agree. 2198 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,950 >> I'm going to try. 2199 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,040 » All right. Moving along. Thank you very 2200 01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,320 much. Uh moving along. Open form. Um 2201 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,360 we'll start with Kayla McCcluskey 2202 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,910 talking about Clementa. 2203 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:12,560 » Yeah. 2204 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:13,360 >> Hi guys. 2205 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:14,000 >> Hey. Hi. 2206 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,639 >> Um, I am here tonight just as a followup 2207 01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,320 for our previous conversation with 2208 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:19,920 Mary'sville Township, uh, regarding 2209 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:21,440 Clement Avenue. I know I've spoken with 2210 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,520 a couple of you already. Um, there's a 2211 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,600 few other probably concerned people here 2212 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,679 as well. Um, and I guess what I'm asking 2213 01:33:27,679 --> 01:33:29,520 for is just kind of an update as to what 2214 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,760 you guys have done since that meeting, 2215 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,760 what has been discussed, what kind of 2216 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,600 the next steps or plans are in meeting 2217 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,320 with Mary'sville or with the county or 2218 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,159 wherever you guys are 2219 01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:42,639 >> talking about applying it. So that that 2220 01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:44,480 day that we had the meeting at 2221 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:48,320 Mary'sville, David, I Jackie, 2222 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,719 Commissioner Moya, Commissioner Dietrich 2223 01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:52,560 met with Wright County to kind of 2224 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,320 discuss what's going on out there. Um I 2225 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,159 think we kind of maybe opened Ray 2226 01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:01,840 County's eyes a little bit more as to 2227 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,080 kind of the need to keep said portion of 2228 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,920 the road open. Um, we also 2229 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:11,920 David talked with one of the board 2230 01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,199 members this afternoon. Um, I think 2231 01:34:15,199 --> 01:34:17,360 we're all in agreement that we need to 2232 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,000 sit down and kind of have a kind of a 2233 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,560 workshop on what kind of cost sharing 2234 01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,600 would look like going forward. Um, you 2235 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,760 know, obviously we were disappointed 2236 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,840 that they, you know, decided not to go 2237 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,480 for the local road improvement grant. 2238 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,840 Um, you know, and then again, they their 2239 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,840 idea of cost sharing was just sending us 2240 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,800 an itemized bill for $5,200 for, you 2241 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,280 know, second quarter maintenance, which 2242 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,760 didn't quite sit well with us. You know, 2243 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,600 we expected some kind of dialogue on, 2244 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,280 you know, a percentage, not just, you 2245 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,920 know, a number. But those conversations 2246 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,800 are moving forward. Um, I do plan to 2247 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,639 reach out to, um, board member Hickman 2248 01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:02,639 so we can set up some sort of, uh, 2249 01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:05,280 meeting. Um, you know, just kind of a 2250 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,080 couple of us here and one of them and 2251 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,400 just kind of hash it out. And 2252 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:11,600 >> so, we're just kind of waiting at this 2253 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,960 point to get a meeting with them to 2254 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,800 discuss kind of some other options. 2255 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,040 >> Um, in regards to the grant, I know that 2256 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,719 kind of one of their ar other arguments 2257 01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:20,719 was that they don't know, you know, in 2258 01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:21,840 applying for that grant, what the 2259 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,440 maintenance is going to require even if 2260 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,360 we they we were to get that grant and 2261 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,560 pave that part of the road. Is there any 2262 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,800 have you guys thought any more about any 2263 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:31,600 >> Yeah, I mean, 2264 01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,760 >> different guidance on that. It's it's 2265 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,480 really been no secret that Mary'sville 2266 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:37,920 really doesn't want that section of the 2267 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,520 road. They've been trying to get us to 2268 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,320 take it over for ever. Um, you know, the 2269 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,080 problem there is that we don't have the 2270 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,960 equipment to maintain that. Um, I don't 2271 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,440 see us purchasing a greater just to 2272 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:50,639 handle that, 2273 01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:52,880 >> you know, section of road and yeah, it 2274 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,280 doesn't seem like a good use of taxpayer 2275 01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,000 money. Um, but I mean, at least from my 2276 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,440 point of view, if we can get to that 2277 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:04,560 point where it is paved and everything, 2278 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,639 I mean, I don't see a reason why we 2279 01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:08,080 wouldn't take over that section of the 2280 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,760 road, but, you know, that's obviously 2281 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,440 something that would have to come along 2282 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:12,880 further in discussions. 2283 01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,199 >> Okay. Um, and then I'm just hoping that 2284 01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:17,199 we can kind of keep the dialogue going 2285 01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:19,040 with with our residents, too, because I 2286 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,320 feel like, you know, I've been living 2287 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,440 there for 10 years and we've always 2288 01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,280 known it was a problem road. It's, you 2289 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:24,719 know, it's always needing to be graded 2290 01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:26,639 and we know it's not really the the 2291 01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:28,719 responsibility of the city. Although 2292 01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:30,080 calling on Mary'sville all the time to 2293 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:31,199 get out there and grade it doesn't feel 2294 01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:33,199 right either considering, you know, 90% 2295 01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:34,639 of the people on that road are paying 2296 01:36:34,639 --> 01:36:36,320 taxes in Montrose and not to Mary'sville 2297 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:36,800 Township, 2298 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:37,440 >> right? 2299 01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:39,520 >> So, just if there we could have some 2300 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,199 transparency in what's happening when 2301 01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:42,719 the meeting I mean we don't need a 2302 01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:44,719 playbyplay by any means, but it would be 2303 01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:46,080 nice rather than letting it kind of fall 2304 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,679 to the wayside which I feel like I mean 2305 01:36:47,679 --> 01:36:49,199 it's been at least 10 years it's been 2306 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:51,199 going on so it hasn't been 2307 01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:53,040 >> Yeah. you know, and it's I mean, it's 2308 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,600 really been kind of a a rushed 2309 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,400 situation. I mean, I got word winded 2310 01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,600 that they were going to shut it down, 2311 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,040 but yeah, that's kind of what July 2312 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,560 >> threw everything into motion. I think 2313 01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:03,840 everyone is like, "Oh my goodness." 2314 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,280 >> They never reached out to the city to 2315 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,360 say, "Hey, this is what our plan is." 2316 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,199 They were just going to prove shutting 2317 01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:11,280 it off without telling us and just 2318 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:12,880 basically say, "Okay, now you have to 2319 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,639 pay to put up a sign that says it's 2320 01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:17,280 just, you know, no through street." And, 2321 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,360 you know, that really kind of didn't sit 2322 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,679 well with us. you know, I mean, there's 2323 01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:23,360 two roads heading north and south out of 2324 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,360 Montrose, and that's one of them. 2325 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,159 >> Have they uh kind of indicated you guys 2326 01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:29,440 that they're kind of backing off on that 2327 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:31,600 right now until something can be 2328 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,400 >> That's agreed upon, or are they ready to 2329 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:35,600 go in there and put something up? 2330 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:36,560 >> I mean, that's kind of the indication 2331 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,040 that we've pushed to them that, hey, 2332 01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,679 let's continue this conversation. I 2333 01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:43,840 don't think there's a need to rush to 2334 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,920 close it at this moment in time, you 2335 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:47,760 know, and I mean, again, that's going to 2336 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,280 be on them, though, to decide what they 2337 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,520 want. county say about them like 2338 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,280 threatening to close the road? Did they 2339 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,119 say that that I mean, can they can they 2340 01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:55,920 do that? 2341 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:56,560 >> Mhm. 2342 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,040 >> Okay. 2343 01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:57,520 >> Yep. 2344 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,159 >> So, they could at any on any day we 2345 01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:01,360 could show up and it could just be 2346 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,000 closed out. 2347 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:02,639 >> Yep. 2348 01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:03,119 >> Okay. 2349 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:04,560 >> Unfortunately, you know, and the 2350 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:05,760 conversations we've had with the county 2351 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,239 is, you know, at this point they 2352 01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:10,320 literally said they have no use for the 2353 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,119 road. So, you know, which still just 2354 01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:14,800 blows my mind. They've got, you know, 2355 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,920 110 south of 12, you know, that goes all 2356 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,600 the way down. So what's the difference 2357 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,840 between two mile stretch here? You know, 2358 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,560 why can't you know you do that there? So 2359 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,719 there's ongoing conversations about 2360 01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:28,480 similar things that, you know, we can 2361 01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:32,239 work with the county on um to try to get 2362 01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:34,639 some other things going, but you know, 2363 01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:36,000 >> yeah, 2364 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,520 >> it's a battle update. I just hope that 2365 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,280 maybe at the next meeting if we could 2366 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,639 just if you guys could just include like 2367 01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:43,600 a quick update as to how meeting 2368 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:44,960 >> if there's anything if there's anything 2369 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,159 to update. Yes. Yeah. 2370 01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:47,600 >> And you can always reach out to me, 2371 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,159 Kayla. you know that you know come over 2372 01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:51,520 knock on my door and yell at me I don't 2373 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,679 care you know let's yell at you 2374 01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:55,440 >> yeah I know it's all good so but yeah 2375 01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:57,280 reach out to me and you know I will try 2376 01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:58,960 to keep you guys updated as possible you 2377 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,280 know anything that comes along it's just 2378 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:01,600 >> you know 2379 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:02,800 >> yeah I think some of us are just a 2380 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,560 little bit of a panic mode with our 2381 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,119 daily drive you know every day 2382 01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:09,520 >> and you know and not just residents I 2383 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,080 mean emergency vehicles too and there's 2384 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,000 a lot of things hinging on this and 2385 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,600 >> yeah stuff that was brought up at the 2386 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,840 >> Yep township meeting was important It's 2387 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:18,480 correct. So 2388 01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:19,600 >> hopefully we can keep that going. 2389 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:19,920 >> Yeah. 2390 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,040 >> All right. Thank you. 2391 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,760 >> Thanks. 2392 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,080 >> Anyone else want to speak on Clementa? 2393 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,960 >> I do. Um I'm Robert Kolki, 602 First 2394 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,520 Street North in Montrose. And I just 2395 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,360 kind of wanted to to to kind of repeat 2396 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,040 what she said because of course I live 2397 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,760 on the northwest corner of Montro. 2398 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,400 >> And you know, the dirt road is in bad 2399 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:44,400 shape. And I think the bottom line is I 2400 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,800 think we have a lot more people here. 2401 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,560 So, when it does start to get to the 2402 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,480 negotiation phase, I can think it'd be 2403 01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:52,880 reasonable that we kind of take take 2404 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,040 most of the cost. And I know I'm a 2405 01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,400 resident and I'm going to pay for part 2406 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,960 of it, too. But fact that we have almost 2407 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:04,719 4,000 people and we have a dirt just a crappy dirt road that's a major 2408 01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:08,239 artery to the north. Um cuz the second 2409 01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:11,280 point I wanted to to bring up is 2410 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,760 602 First Street North is where I live 2411 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,679 and there are people that regularly go 2412 01:40:15,679 --> 01:40:19,280 by my house at 50 m an hour. I mean it's 2413 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,679 ridiculous, you know, and we're on a 2414 01:40:21,679 --> 01:40:25,119 curve, you know, so when we back out, 2415 01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:27,600 it's just the margin for error is just 2416 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,280 crazy. And anything to make that worse 2417 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,719 >> would just drive us nuts. So the second 2418 01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:37,280 point is it kind of piggybacks off the 2419 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,560 Clementa issue is the speeds that are in 2420 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,320 the kind of the edges of town like kind 2421 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,719 of where I live are getting ridiculous 2422 01:40:44,719 --> 01:40:46,480 and I think that we just need to realize 2423 01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:49,440 that and that we haven't had an accident 2424 01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:51,280 but we have teenage someone was talking 2425 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,040 about teenage drivers we have some of 2426 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,440 those too and just the margins for 2427 01:40:55,440 --> 01:40:57,520 errors that we have is just so low and 2428 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:03,600 so the point is just the speeds that are that are you know, being 2429 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,600 utilized around the city streets. Yep. 2430 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:06,719 >> So, 2431 01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:09,119 >> you know, and that's part of our my at 2432 01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:11,119 least my whole thing with shutting off 2433 01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:13,360 Clementa is Yes. Now, all that traffic 2434 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,239 is going to route down first and you 2435 01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:17,840 know, like you mentioned, I mean, we're 2436 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,840 going to get more cars going down there 2437 01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,639 and obviously you just sit on Clementa 2438 01:41:22,639 --> 01:41:25,119 and you can see people don't recognize 2439 01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:27,199 the 30 mph speed limit. So, you know, 2440 01:41:27,199 --> 01:41:28,320 they're going to come speeding through 2441 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,719 there. Um, and you know, just 2442 01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:33,600 maintenance overall. I mean, you put 2443 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,920 that many cars back down first and then, 2444 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,199 you know, what's that road going to look 2445 01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:38,159 like? 2446 01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:39,600 >> Yeah. I think you'll have to add stop 2447 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,920 signs, too. It gets even worse. You 2448 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:42,880 know, you're going to have to do 2449 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,719 something like that and then it t just 2450 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:47,119 takes forever to get from point. 2451 01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:49,199 >> Yeah. So, there I mean, it's not just, 2452 01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:51,119 you know, the residents that live in 2453 01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:54,159 Whitetail and Forest Creek that use that 2454 01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:55,840 section of the road. We understand that 2455 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,159 it's, you know, all residents. It's, you 2456 01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:00,159 know, people from Woodland. I mean, when 2457 01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,320 I go that way, I see more cars coming 2458 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,880 south than going north. I mean, you got 2459 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,360 XL coming down there, too. So, I mean, 2460 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,840 there's a lot of use on that road. And, 2461 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:10,960 you know, that's kind of what we're 2462 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,280 trying to avoid getting that shut down. 2463 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:13,760 So, 2464 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,199 >> all right. Thanks. Thanks for your time. 2465 01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:16,000 >> Thank you. 2466 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,719 >> You 2467 01:42:18,719 --> 01:42:21,520 >> anyone else? 2468 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,440 >> I just have a question. 2469 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:26,239 >> Of course. 2470 01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:27,520 >> At least you owned it. 2471 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:27,920 >> What? 2472 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,320 >> At least you owned it. I know every time. Um, so you guys are we 2473 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,920 understand that nobody wants to close 2474 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,159 Comment. We get that. But at what cost 2475 01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:38,560 do the citizens of Montro want to pay to 2476 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,560 keep that road open 2477 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,159 >> because how much it would cost? 2478 01:42:42,159 --> 01:42:44,080 >> Well, right now, so we're from Highway 2479 01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,360 12 to the dirt. Okay. So, what Forest 2480 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,520 Creek area and we're taking care of that 2481 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,520 road in 2027 at around 2.2 million. 2482 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,920 That's on the city of Montro. So, do we 2483 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,600 have that money to also maintain 2484 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,440 the dirt part of it? I mean, how much do 2485 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:02,960 we want to put in 2486 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,520 >> is the 2.2 million the rebuild 2487 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:06,320 >> estimate? Yes. 2488 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,800 >> Yep. 2489 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,960 >> I mean, I we we I know it's going to 2490 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,880 cost us all, including me, a lot of 2491 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,520 money. But I think we got it put most of 2492 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,199 it in. I mean, how many people live 2493 01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:19,840 there? Six on that dirt road. Six. 2494 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,800 Seven. 2495 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:21,840 >> There's five. 2496 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,159 >> Five. 2497 01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:25,119 houses. Five houses. I think at 2498 01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:27,760 this point keeping it dirt fine like we 2499 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,639 can take that loss but but we're closing 2500 01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:34,000 off and right I don't think why how is 2501 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,639 that even how's the cops going to get to 2502 01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:40,159 us that adds and peace.