[0:03] All right, we'll call the regular city
[0:04] council meeting Monday, February 9th, 7
[0:07] p.m. to order. Uh, roll call. Jovona,
[0:11] >> Toby Nelson,
[0:11] >> Sam Solars,
[0:12] >> David Paradise,
[0:13] >> Michelle Otto, Jackie Hines,
[0:15] >> Jared Vogi, Dan Reamer.
[0:18] >> All right, I do not see Pastor Kathy for
[0:21] invocation. Um, please rise for the
[0:24] pledge of allegiance.
[0:29] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[0:31] United States of America and to the
[0:34] republic for which it stands, one nation
[0:37] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:40] justice for justice for all.
[0:47] » All right. I will be looking for a
[0:49] approval of the agenda.
[0:51] >> I will make the motion to approve the
[0:53] agenda.
[0:54] >> I'll second. Any discussion?
[1:00] All right. Miss Otto,
[1:01] >> I.
[1:02] >> Miss Paradise,
[1:03] >> I.
[1:03] >> Mr. Nelson,
[1:04] >> I.
[1:04] >> Mr. Vontoma,
[1:05] >> I.
[1:06] >> I'll vote I. Approval of agenda passes
[1:08] 50. You're looking for a approval of the
[1:11] consent.
[1:12] >> I'll make a motion to approve the
[1:14] consent agenda.
[1:15] >> I'll second.
[1:17] >> Any further discussion?
[1:18] >> I just have a quick question. On page
[1:20] 35, are we still paying for the Comcast
[1:24] here?
[1:26] No, we are because there's only certain
[1:28] services that are excluded per the new
[1:30] contract.
[1:31] >> Okay.
[1:32] >> All right. Thank you.
[1:36] >> Any further questions?
[1:38] >> All right. Mr. Bonma,
[1:40] >> I.
[1:40] >> Mr. Nelson,
[1:41] >> I.
[1:41] >> Mr. Paradise,
[1:42] >> I.
[1:43] >> Miss Otto,
[1:44] >> I will vote I. Passes 50.
[1:48] Wright County Sheriff's Office.
[1:55] Good evening, mayor and council and
[1:57] community. I am Deputy RS with the Red
[1:59] County Sheriff's Office. A lot of you
[2:00] guys probably haven't met me yet. Been
[2:02] with Sheriff's Office since about June
[2:04] of last year. So, been down in Montro's
[2:06] Waverly since the beginning of this
[2:08] year. So, um just in Montro alone this
[2:12] month, we have had 99 calls for service,
[2:15] 55 cases, and two PC arrest this week.
[2:19] Um, in January we had 254 calls for
[2:22] service. Uh, 133 cases and five PC
[2:26] arrests. Um, just comparing a little
[2:29] bit, we have had 100 more calls for
[2:32] service than Maple Lake, 50 more than
[2:34] Clearwater, and about 30 to 40 more than
[2:37] Anaddale, and 100 more than CO. Just to
[2:39] show a little bit of comparison to
[2:41] surrounding communities. Do you guys
[2:43] have anything for us?
[2:48] » No. Okay, I think we're good.
[2:49] >> Community, any comments, questions,
[2:51] concerns.
[2:53] >> Yeah,
[2:57] » that includes everything.
[2:59] >> All righty.
[3:00] >> Thank you. Thank you.
[3:03] >> All right, moving on to reports and
[3:05] recommendations. Uh, city council
[3:07] monthly activity report.
[3:11] >> Uh, last month I had city council
[3:12] meeting, planning and zoning. I had a
[3:15] meeting with Kim from Grace Place
[3:17] council workshop and the elected leaders
[3:19] conference.
[3:21] >> I had city council council workshop and
[3:25] elected leaders conference.
[3:27] >> Let's see. City council workshop um meeting with
[3:32] the league of Minnesota cities with
[3:33] other right county mayors. Um league of
[3:36] Minnesota cities elected leaders
[3:38] conference
[3:40] meeting with Wright County and talks
[3:42] about Clementa. Um,
[3:45] I think that's about it.
[3:48] >> City council, city council workshop,
[3:50] fire department, big Minnesota cities
[3:52] elected leaders.
[3:55] Uh, we had a right county meeting and uh
[3:59] went to Mary'sville's meeting last year.
[4:03] >> Uh, city council workshop coun uh I
[4:05] wasn't at the council meeting um
[4:08] Mary'sville fire department dinner which
[4:10] we you guys all attended too.
[4:11] >> Yes.
[4:12] um the caucus that was just last week
[4:15] and celebrate Montros.
[4:19] >> All right. Montros Fire Department.
[4:28] » Good evening, Mayor and Council.
[4:30] Attached in your packet is the activity
[4:32] report for January of 2026. Um total
[4:35] calls were only 16, so we're down a
[4:37] little bit from last year. Um which
[4:38] we're okay with. Um training standard
[4:41] training for the month for the most
[4:42] part. Um
[4:45] 2026 captains were selected to be Cory
[4:47] Dit, Eddie Andreoff, and Joey Ty. Same
[4:49] as uh 2025 captains. Then
[4:52] acknowledgement is just to all the
[4:53] firefighters for their commitment and
[4:55] service to the Montro Fire Department
[4:56] throughout the entire year of 2025.
[4:59] Any questions on that?
[5:02] >> Nope.
[5:03] Then just to recap on our um prime rib
[5:07] dinner which was held last this past
[5:08] Saturday. Um we served uh right around
[5:11] about 390 meals um served. Um special
[5:15] thanks to Hollywood um sports complex
[5:18] and catering um for helping us out with
[5:20] the dinner. Um Justin Emmery, he's a
[5:22] huge supporter. Gives us silent auction
[5:24] items, allows us use of his bounce house
[5:26] and a whole bunch of other stuff.
[5:29] um and then everybody who donated items
[5:31] for the silent auction and then all who
[5:34] attended um and supported the fire
[5:36] department. We also did some recognition
[5:39] um during the dinner. Uh the 2025
[5:42] firefighter of the year um was selected
[5:44] to be uh Roy Koko Henry. The top
[5:47] responders were Kelly Stole and Keith
[5:49] Johnson for 2025. And then we recognized
[5:52] Alan Mortonson for over 28 years of
[5:54] service. He'll be retiring later this
[5:56] month here and that'll come before you
[5:58] guys in the uh March packet. So, thanks
[6:02] for all who came and supported us. Uh we
[6:04] appreciate it and hope everybody had a
[6:05] good time. So, any questions?
[6:10] » No.
[6:11] >> Perfect.
[6:11] >> We're good. Thanks, Kevin.
[6:13] >> All right. Uh nothing for EDA planning
[6:16] and zoning.
[6:17] >> Uh mayor and council included in your
[6:19] packet are the planning and zoning
[6:21] commission meeting minutes from their
[6:22] January 14th meeting. um also are two
[6:25] applications for two new members to
[6:27] planning and zoning. So, we would be
[6:28] looking for um a motion to accept each
[6:32] of those applications.
[6:36] » I'll make a motion to accept Tracy Gerna
[6:38] Planning and Zoning. You want them
[6:40] separate, right?
[6:40] >> Yes, please.
[6:41] >> I'll second.
[6:43] >> Any further discussion on that?
[6:47] >> Miss Otto,
[6:48] >> I.
[6:48] >> Miss Paradise,
[6:49] >> I.
[6:49] >> Mr. Nelson,
[6:50] >> I.
[6:50] >> Mr. Vontoma.
[6:52] >> I vote I passes 50.
[6:56] >> I'll make a motion then to approve
[6:58] Kendra Sailor also to planning and
[7:00] zoning.
[7:01] >> I'll second that.
[7:02] >> Any further discussion?
[7:06] >> Miss Otto
[7:07] >> I.
[7:07] >> M. Paradise.
[7:08] >> I.
[7:08] >> Mr. Nelson.
[7:09] >> I.
[7:10] >> Mr. Bontoma.
[7:11] >> I.
[7:11] >> I'll vote I. Passes 5.
[7:20] Nothing for park and wreck. Nothing for
[7:23] city engineer.
[7:26] All right. Public works. Danny, what you
[7:28] got?
[7:28] >> Air and council. Uh on page 59. Um we'll
[7:33] start off um the CIP plan that we
[7:36] uh talked about before. We have some
[7:38] equipment on there that we are trading
[7:40] in and rolling out. Um first thing is
[7:43] the Bobcat.
[7:45] um with the quote you have in front of
[7:47] you again, page 59, just trading in our
[7:50] 2015 Bobcat to upgrade. Um looking to
[7:55] get approval for that and it did come in
[7:58] under budget.
[8:03] Any questions you got?
[8:09] Any questions for Danny on the Bobcat?
[8:17] We're budgeted for that. Correct.
[8:18] >> Yeah,
[8:19] >> correct. They were provided in the CIP
[8:20] plan, the four budget.
[8:24] >> Good job, company under budget.
[8:27] >> Say I don't see a import tax or anything
[8:29] like that on this one. So,
[8:34] » that's nice.
[8:35] >> And you could see on there, they're
[8:36] giving us a trade in on our old one. So,
[8:40] um, with that being said, we traded in
[8:43] every 5 years prior, and this has been
[8:45] 10 now. So, um, we're going to keep
[8:49] these equipments on a rolling trade out
[8:52] to try to get some money for them before
[8:54] they're worth nothing. So,
[8:57] um, this is just the start of it. So,
[9:03] looking for that approval.
[9:09] » I'll make a motion to approve the Bobcat
[9:11] purchase of 42,500.
[9:13] >> I'll second. Any further discussion?
[9:17] >> All right. Mr. Rontoma,
[9:19] >> I'll vote I.
[9:20] >> Miss Otto,
[9:21] >> I.
[9:21] >> Miss Paradise.
[9:22] >> I.
[9:22] >> Miss Nelson.
[9:23] >> I.
[9:23] >> I'll vote I. This is 5.
[9:27] >> Uh, thank you, Mayor Councel. Um on page
[9:31] 61 now and included in your packet is
[9:35] the two John Deere zero turns we are
[9:38] trading out um for two um
[9:44] Toro zero turns and again they are
[9:47] giving us a tradein value of 14,000
[9:52] um but there's still a cost upfront.
[9:55] Um, we're looking to probably keep these
[9:58] for 5 years and trade them out again.
[10:02] So, I'm looking to get approval again
[10:04] that came in under budget um for the
[10:07] 30,560.
[10:12] » Danny, did they I see price and I see
[10:15] net. There's about a $5,000 difference.
[10:16] Do they give a discount or something for
[10:18] us?
[10:20] Yeah, I mean the state bid,
[10:23] >> you know, we taxes
[10:24] >> they give us state bid prices.
[10:26] >> Okay.
[10:28] >> I just wanted to make sure that it was
[10:29] the 58 and not like 69 or 70,
[10:32] >> right?
[10:35] » And that's the same with the Bobcat. We
[10:37] try to stay I mean we pretty much do
[10:39] stay with dealers that are state bid.
[10:44] Um, I'll make a motion to approve the
[10:46] purchase from Eminem Express in the
[10:49] amount of 30,560.
[10:52] >> I'll second.
[10:54] >> Any further discussion?
[10:56] Miss Paradise.
[10:58] >> I,
[10:58] >> Mr. Vontoma.
[10:59] >> I,
[10:59] >> Miss Otto,
[11:00] >> I.
[11:00] >> Mr. Nelson,
[11:01] >> I.
[11:02] >> I'll vote I. Passes 50.
[11:04] >> Thank you, Mayor Council. Moving on to
[11:06] number two. Um members of the VFW have
[11:09] came to the city wondering um get
[11:12] council approval to mow the VFW mow and
[11:15] trim. Um their members are getting
[11:17] older. Um Billy Babetts now is the
[11:19] volunteer mower there. Wondering if
[11:22] public works could mow that um for them
[11:25] from this point out.
[11:29] » How much time you think that would add?
[11:34] depending upon
[11:36] mowing and you know season wet season
[11:39] it'll grow fast. I'd say hour mowing
[11:41] half hour weed whipping every
[11:43] >> time in that area. So it's not like
[11:46] you're traveling over there just for
[11:47] that or is there nothing?
[11:48] >> We're already in the area for other
[11:50] things we mow.
[11:51] >> Okay.
[11:52] >> So um
[11:54] I don't see it being an issue, but it is
[11:57] a private lot. It's not city-owned yet.
[12:00] I know they were talking about possibly
[12:02] donating it in the future, but
[12:05] um
[12:07] >> I can't just say yes without council
[12:09] approval.
[12:15] » Any thoughts, council?
[12:19] » If somebody gets hurt, who's that go on?
[12:24] >> Uh well, you'd have to talk to our
[12:25] insurance company on that and see what
[12:28] happens. Um, I am not going to allow
[12:30] summer help to mow that. That is a
[12:32] pretty steep bank. Um, public works will
[12:34] strictly be mowing that. As far as weed
[12:37] whip and summer help can do that, but
[12:40] >> um, I guess we could call an ass. I
[12:42] never really thought about that
[12:45] if we're have like an umbrella coverage.
[12:47] Uh, me and Jackie can look into that.
[12:52] It's a
[12:52] >> good question. That's what I was going
[12:54] to ask.
[12:56] I mean,
[13:00] I I think we should maybe table it till
[13:03] next month. I mean, we have a few months
[13:04] till grass is going to start growing to
[13:06] maybe get that insurance answer before
[13:08] we
[13:09] >> Could we make a motion per approval
[13:12] through insurance and attorneys?
[13:18] Then I'll I'll make a motion to approve
[13:22] mowing and weed whipping the VFW per uh
[13:25] approval through insurance and
[13:27] attorneys.
[13:29] >> I'll second.
[13:30] >> Any further discussion?
[13:33] >> Mr. Nelson.
[13:34] >> I.
[13:34] >> Mr. Paradise.
[13:35] >> Hi.
[13:35] >> Mr. Bontoma.
[13:36] >> Hi.
[13:37] >> Otto.
[13:38] >> I.
[13:38] will vote I. Passes 5.
[13:41] >> Moving on. Mayor and council number
[13:43] three is the BNSF railroad improvements
[13:46] at Clementa. I was contacted about a
[13:48] month ago from BNSF stating that um they
[13:52] are going to upgrade the crossing and
[13:54] the city is liable for 50% of that.
[13:58] Um Jackie, what were those numbers right
[14:01] off hand?
[14:02] >> So, yep. I continued a conversation
[14:04] after Dan and so this is the railroad
[14:06] crossing um at uh Clementa and the
[14:09] track. Um, currently it's not scheduled
[14:12] work. It's not scheduled to happen yet.
[14:15] We won't know that until probably April
[14:16] or May when it will happen. Um, half of
[14:20] it is roughly 48,000 that we are on the
[14:23] hook for. So, this was not budgeted, not
[14:26] planned. Um,
[14:29] >> after talking with the engineers, they
[14:30] are recommending that we
[14:33] move forward and allow well obviously we
[14:36] have to allow it let it happen instead
[14:38] of um having it be done when Clementa is
[14:41] done next year
[14:43] >> um just due to the way the work is done
[14:46] in the order um public works will have
[14:50] to provide traffic control. It's about a
[14:52] 3-day project. The road will be closed
[14:54] for 3 days. Um, we do have to find an
[14:57] asphalt contractor to finish up the job.
[15:00] Um, and that's about all the details
[15:02] we've been given at this point. They
[15:05] couldn't provide anything further for us
[15:06] until it actually gets scheduled.
[15:08] >> They said here you have to pay 50%
[15:10] figure it out.
[15:11] >> We don't have a choice.
[15:12] >> Fantastic.
[15:13] >> How does that affect the project for
[15:14] next year then?
[15:15] >> Yeah.
[15:17] >> So, they've asked us to basically um
[15:20] have the railroad grind. Am I saying
[15:23] this correctly? um do the work past
[15:27] their property line and onto Clementa.
[15:30] So that am I wording this?
[15:32] >> So we could tie into when Clement was
[15:34] redone.
[15:35] >> So yes, exactly. So when the Clementa
[15:39] Avenue project occurs, then we simply
[15:41] tie into where they left off
[15:43] >> and we don't have to get a railroad
[15:45] permit to be in there right away. Um
[15:47] flaggers for being in there right away,
[15:49] all that sort of stuff. So it' be more
[15:51] efficient for the city's project.
[15:55] cheaper, right?
[15:58] >> Not cheaper.
[16:00] >> No,
[16:02] >> I I did
[16:03] >> I did kindly ask BNSF to give us a more
[16:06] than a sixmon heads up next time.
[16:09] >> Yeah, that's
[16:10] >> um but they're like
[16:13] >> they really didn't care what I had to
[16:14] say. It's they you know we it's our
[16:17] crossing now, right? Half of it's ours,
[16:19] half it's BNSF. So, um,
[16:24] you know, so we could budget for it. So,
[16:25] I say from moving on forward, I, you
[16:27] know, I'm going to ask them like, "How
[16:28] many years do you redo these?" And we'll
[16:31] budget for it accordingly. But this was
[16:33] out of left field. So,
[16:36] >> and then public works is responsible for
[16:38] traffic control.
[16:39] >> Yeah.
[16:40] >> Awesome.
[16:40] >> And we have charge for that.
[16:42] >> We'll just shut the roads down and send
[16:43] out notifications to the people that
[16:45] it's going to affect as soon as we get a
[16:47] date.
[16:48] >> Yep. We'll just have to put up
[16:49] barricades to block the road.
[16:51] >> I mean, hopefully they give us a heads
[16:53] up longer than a week out when they're
[16:55] going to come to do it.
[16:57] >> So,
[16:58] >> I mean, the citizens will know as soon
[17:00] as we know.
[17:01] >> Yeah, we were told that they would a
[17:03] decision should be made around April
[17:06] that they would have um a start date.
[17:10] >> Okay.
[17:12] So looking forward to we have to provide
[17:15] our own asphalt company.
[17:18] >> Yeah, that that when they give us a
[17:21] heads up, I'm going to have to start
[17:23] calling around. Right. I mean, we don't
[17:25] have asphalt,
[17:26] >> right?
[17:27] >> We're not that big of a town. We don't
[17:28] do it ourselves. So,
[17:31] and hopefully we can get one lined up at
[17:33] the same time. Otherwise, the road's
[17:35] going to be closed down longer than 3
[17:36] days.
[17:37] >> That's a big concern. The earlier the
[17:40] heads up, the better for us.
[17:45] » It's giving me a headache.
[17:46] >> Yeah. I don't want to hear in April that
[17:47] they're doing it in May.
[17:49] >> Yeah. Or we'll be out there next week.
[17:54] » Um, as far as funding goes.
[18:00] » Mhm.
[18:03] Um, we have planned for some additional
[18:06] and over in our streets. So, that's part
[18:09] of that kind of overplanning. Um, so I'm
[18:13] We'll be fine.
[18:15] >> I knew we would. I just want to make
[18:17] sure.
[18:23] » So, we looking for a a motion.
[18:26] >> Just information.
[18:26] Okay.
[18:29] >> I'm assuming we'll get a more solid
[18:31] number when it comes, but
[18:33] >> just another thing to keep up with what
[18:34] they said.
[18:36] Um, any more questions on that?
[18:40] >> Not right now.
[18:43] >> Um, and then number four, I don't really
[18:45] have any updates for you. Um, if you got
[18:48] questions for public works, I'll answer
[18:50] those now.
[18:53] >> Any questions for Danny?
[18:55] >> No.
[18:57] Danny, I think you're good. Thank
[18:59] you.
[19:01] All right. Uh, let's see. You got no old
[19:03] business. Moving on to new business, uh,
[19:05] Reich County Snowmobile Agreement.
[19:11] » U, I'm Kurt Ritter with the Delo
[19:12] Snowmobile Club and on behalf of Wright
[19:15] County Snowmobile Association, we've had
[19:17] a landowner agreement with you guys in
[19:19] the past. We're just trying to update
[19:20] our records and and include it. There
[19:24] really isn't all what it does that gives
[19:27] us access to the road ditches and the
[19:29] rideways. There really isn't much in
[19:31] there. I think I don't know if the map
[19:33] is attached or not, but
[19:35] >> um it it kind of comes up to Casey's and
[19:38] that's pretty much it for right now. I
[19:41] know we've worked in the past to trying
[19:42] to get something through town and it's always in the works and that's
[19:45] something that we would come to you guys
[19:46] with if something were to change.
[19:55] » So, what was included is just basically
[19:56] an updated agreement.
[19:59] Council,
[20:03] any questions?
[20:11] » Looks pretty straightforward to me.
[20:14] >> I'll be looking for a motion.
[20:22] » I'll make a motion to approve the Ray
[20:24] County Snowmobile Association permit
[20:25] agreement.
[20:26] >> I will second. Any further discussion?
[20:31] Mr. Paradise. Hi,
[20:32] >> Mr. Bontoma. Hi,
[20:33] >> Miss Otto. Hi,
[20:34] >> Mr. Nelson. Hi.
[20:35] >> I will vote. I passes 50.
[20:38] >> Thank you.
[20:38] You just want to send it out
[20:40] then?
[20:40] >> Yes, I will.
[20:41] >> All right. Thank you very much.
[20:42] >> Thank you.
[20:43] >> All right.
[20:43] >> Montro Ambassadors, I saw you in here
[20:47] somewhere. There you are.
[20:54] Hello, my name is Jaden Dolick and I am
[20:57] the 2025 2026 Mantros ambassador. I want
[21:00] to share a little bit about my year so
[21:02] far and what it means to represent our
[21:03] community. As an ambassador, my role is
[21:05] to serve as a positive representative of
[21:08] Mantros, especially for youth, and to
[21:10] help support the community and other
[21:12] groups in our community. Over the first
[21:14] half of my year, I've had the chance to
[21:16] be part of some really meaningful and
[21:18] fun experiences that have helped me grow
[21:21] personally while also giving back to the
[21:24] community that I'm proud to call home.
[21:26] One of my favorite events to participate
[21:28] in are the parades and coronations. The
[21:31] Anoka parade as well as the holiday
[21:33] parades like Winstead, Cambridge, and
[21:35] Montgomery were so fun. Cold, but a
[21:37] great time. Meeting the other girls from
[21:39] other communities and representing
[21:41] mantras have has been a great experience
[21:43] for me. Anyone that knows me knows that
[21:46] this has taken me beyond my comfort zone
[21:48] and I'm really learning new important
[21:50] skills like public speaking and
[21:51] introducing myself to new people.
[21:53] Another highlight for me has been
[21:55] joining in at community events like
[21:58] breakfast with Santa with celebrate
[22:00] mantras and community meals with Grace
[22:02] Place. Being able to support these
[22:05] events has helped me better understand
[22:07] needs within our community and how
[22:09] important it is for young people to stay
[22:11] involved and give back. Looking forward,
[22:13] I'm really excited for the warmer
[22:15] parades. I'm looking forward to
[22:17] continuing to represent Montro's meeting more community members and
[22:21] helping support events that bring people
[22:23] together. These opportunities not only
[22:25] strengthen the city's sense of
[22:28] community, but they also help
[22:30] ambassadors like me develop leadership
[22:32] skills and confidence. Overall, being an
[22:34] ambassador has already taught me so
[22:36] much, even though the majority of my
[22:38] experiences in Crown are still ahead of
[22:40] me, I admit I still have some work to do
[22:43] and I'm ready to continue to work. Thank
[22:45] you for your support as a city,
[22:46] borrowing the city trucks and giving us
[22:49] a place to store our float, which
[22:50] recently got a makeover that we're
[22:52] excited to show off at upcoming parades.
[22:55] My community family and I are grateful.
[22:57] Thank you for your time tonight and for
[22:59] continuing to support programs that
[23:01] encourage youth involvement and
[23:03] community involvement.
[23:05] >> Thank you, J. Thank you, J.
[23:14] All right, I have a request for council
[23:16] action for the rental ordinance
[23:19] discussion. So, we got uh Jonathan
[23:21] Danielson, Ross Danielson,
[23:24] Sue, I'm sorry, I'm probably going to
[23:26] botch your last name, Bonic, Becky
[23:29] Yarns,
[23:30] >> and then I've also got a couple open
[23:31] form requests talking about the same
[23:33] thing if you guys just kind of all want
[23:35] to be one.
[23:37] >> All right, you okay with that?
[23:39] >> Yes. Come on down. Just state your name
[23:42] and your address for me, please.
[23:47] » Good evening. I'm Jonathan Danielson. Uh
[23:50] 409510th Street Northeast in Buffalo. Um
[23:53] I own JR Real Estate for those who don't
[23:56] know me. Um I don't recognize a lot of
[23:58] new faces on the board here. New mirror.
[24:00] Um I'm not here to really scream or yell
[24:04] or cuss or anything like that. I just
[24:06] have some questions and uh just kind of
[24:09] more or less it would have been nice to
[24:11] have a discussion with you or a workshop
[24:12] with you on this um rental ordinance. I
[24:17] get why you want to do it as far as you
[24:19] know making sure the rentals are safe
[24:21] and I I agree rentals should be safe and
[24:23] I know some landlords don't do that but
[24:27] I like to pride myself as I'm not one of
[24:29] them. I've had a lot of tenants for many
[24:31] years stay with me six, seven, eight
[24:33] years. Um, and I I try really hard not
[24:36] to raise rent because, as you know,
[24:38] everything else is going up, but um, I
[24:41] just have a couple key points I'd like
[24:43] to discuss. I know there's a lot of
[24:44] other people that would like to talk, so
[24:46] I'll make it brief. Um, but in the past,
[24:50] I've I sell real estate, too, so I've
[24:52] worked with the city in the past on
[24:53] stuff, and it's been really easy to work
[24:55] with, communicate, everything was great.
[24:57] However, I don't feel like that in this
[24:59] case. this is kind of just kind of
[25:01] shoved down our throats without talking
[25:03] to us and you know it affects us and you
[25:06] know I know some people think 125 bucks
[25:08] or 180 bucks or whatever the fee is
[25:11] isn't that much but when you're trying
[25:12] to keep rent down and taxes insurance
[25:16] has everything is going up and we're
[25:18] doing our best to keep it down um it's
[25:21] just another expense onto us and on top
[25:23] of it you know if something happens I
[25:25] know I've heard a couple that you know
[25:28] state law doesn't require you know of a
[25:29] GFI buy is not in a bathroom if it's
[25:31] grandfathered in, but the inspectors are
[25:34] now requiring that. Well, it's kind of
[25:37] more expenses on us, you know, and it's
[25:39] not anything that's dangerous, you know.
[25:41] I see if something's dangerous.
[25:43] Absolutely. But as I hope I take care of
[25:46] my my units, so it shouldn't be
[25:48] anything. Um,
[25:51] but I'd like I guess my whole point is I
[25:52] just wish this would have it came to us,
[25:55] talked to us. Um, I use the example is
[25:58] like Um, city of Buffalo sent out a um,
[26:03] notification about stuff and we could
[26:05] have workshopped it with you. City of
[26:07] Maple Lake did the same thing. You know,
[26:09] they heard us out, talked with us.
[26:11] Ultimately, they decided not to pass it,
[26:13] but that wasn't quite my point. My point
[26:15] was is they wanted to talk to us and our
[26:17] concerns and our, you know, what can we
[26:19] do together to make it work. Um, there's
[26:22] a lot of us that never got informed. The
[26:24] only reason I found out, um, was through
[26:26] my dad and through Sue. Um, nothing was
[26:29] sent to me until after I reached out to
[26:32] the city. I know there's a few landlords
[26:34] back here that haven't got anything yet.
[26:36] Um, and I know Christy had said that she
[26:38] mailed stuff out and you know how mail
[26:40] is these days, you know,
[26:41] >> but I had no idea that the dues were due
[26:44] on February 1st or the inspection was
[26:47] due on the March. Wasn't until I called
[26:48] the city to get that information, which,
[26:52] you know, that's where I wish the
[26:53] communication would have been a little
[26:54] bit better. we could have workshopped it
[26:56] versus having a bunch of angry people.
[26:58] And like I said, I'm not here to yell. I
[27:00] just wanted to talk, kind of give you my
[27:02] two cents. And I understand that there's
[27:04] some rental properties that are not
[27:06] included in this, such as the mobile
[27:08] manor. Um, and a lot of that was due to
[27:12] the was it something to do with the
[27:14] utilities or something? But Country View
[27:17] Estates is the same thing where we're
[27:19] not individually paying the city
[27:21] utilities that's in our HOA. the board
[27:23] pays it or the the the state pays it.
[27:26] So, I guess why is that not included?
[27:29] But we're included. Um I just think if
[27:32] it's going to be
[27:34] implemented, it should be across the
[27:35] board in my opinion. Um and then there's
[27:39] just a couple things that when I was
[27:40] reading through your sheets you sent
[27:42] out, um you know, it can't be two times
[27:45] the amount of rooms. So, I give the
[27:46] example of a four-bedroom house, but if
[27:48] the family of 10 comes in, I the state
[27:50] says I can't discriminate against them
[27:52] because they have eight kids. So, how
[27:54] does this the board work through that
[27:56] cuz I don't want to lose my rental
[27:57] licenses, but I also don't want to break
[27:58] any laws. Um, another one is, you know,
[28:03] if you can't, it's only one family. So,
[28:06] I use the example, I had one that took
[28:07] in a sick friend, you know, but now
[28:09] that's not the same family. So, am I
[28:12] breaking the rules with the city then or
[28:14] how do we navigate that and you know
[28:17] just some of the things I would have
[28:19] liked to workshop with you just so it
[28:22] we would have known more and then same
[28:24] thing with the fees. I know other towns
[28:26] have them but they're two to three times
[28:28] more than other cities. So, how come
[28:30] it's more expensive and what does that
[28:32] funds go towards? I guess um that's kind
[28:35] of my main points. So, I know there's a
[28:37] lot more I could go through, but I want
[28:39] to be respectful of time. So, I thank
[28:41] you for hearing me out and hope to work
[28:43] with you in the future. I'd like to keep
[28:45] doing business in my office. So,
[28:47] >> I appreciate it. Thank you.
[28:49] >> Thank you. Appreciate it. you.
[28:59] » My name is Sue Fallon Donic and I'm the
[29:01] president of the Association of Country
[29:03] View Estates and we too were floored
[29:07] that this was not even brought to our
[29:08] attention prior to the information. I
[29:11] was given an email saying they needed to
[29:14] know the tenants in the buildings. Well,
[29:17] I don't own every unit. My husband and I
[29:19] own nine units out of the 57 units that
[29:22] are available. And it we did not think
[29:25] that it was up to us to tell you who's
[29:27] living in these complexes. And I did res
[29:30] respond back saying, "Well, are you
[29:31] asking the homeowners who's living in
[29:34] their units?" Um, it just seems like the
[29:37] renters are being penalized for renting
[29:39] in this city. I own property in
[29:42] Minneapolis and I've gone to many
[29:44] meetings and I've never felt this left
[29:46] out. We always had workshops as Jonathan
[29:49] said and talking to the owners. Montro
[29:52] is not a high middle class area. Country
[29:56] View keep tries to keep their rents
[29:59] relatively low because of the clientele
[30:02] in this area. We know that they're not
[30:04] making 50 $60,000 a year. Um they're
[30:08] actually lower income. And so what's
[30:10] happening is all these fees, including
[30:13] the water that we pay $6,000 a month for
[30:16] three buildings, is adding on to the
[30:18] pressure of the owners who have to pass
[30:21] that on to their tenants. So the rents
[30:24] are going up to almost $13,400
[30:27] a month. Now, I don't know about you,
[30:30] but when I bought my first house, I did
[30:32] not pay anywhere near that much money.
[30:34] And now you're asking people to move in
[30:37] a in a in a community such as Montrose
[30:41] and it's a small community and things
[30:42] are lower down here than they are the
[30:44] city. We don't get the commuters like we
[30:47] used to do when I came out here 26 years
[30:49] ago. Um there's still a lot of people
[30:51] that go to the city and they can make
[30:52] money out there but in Mont in Montro
[30:56] Cooko Buffalo Howard Lake they're not
[30:58] making that kind of money. So I guess
[31:01] what the bottom line is why we were not
[31:04] brought into the mix of this. We are
[31:06] probably your largest rental area for units in a complete in a small area.
[31:12] We're also told as Jonathan brought up
[31:14] was the water. Our association pays that
[31:17] water. We have association dues that
[31:19] each owner pays monthly of $325.
[31:23] So if you own multiple units, you're
[31:25] paying for that the water plus the
[31:27] electric for the outside and the
[31:29] interior hallways. So what's happening
[31:32] is we're we've got owners who want to
[31:34] sell now. We could be sitting there with
[31:37] empty units because no one's going to
[31:39] pay what the going rate for for units
[31:42] are right now. We're trying to keep it
[31:44] low. And as the president, I have to be
[31:47] responsible for all the monies that come
[31:49] in. I have to make sure as you do that
[31:51] this tax money that we're we're sending
[31:54] for here is spent wisely and that's what
[31:57] we're trying to do. So we had just had
[31:59] hoped that you would contact us and let
[32:02] us know this was coming because we've
[32:04] had to con increase our association dues
[32:07] twice in a year and it's it's getting
[32:10] more expensive and if you want more
[32:12] people to move into your area you have
[32:15] to make it affordable for other people
[32:17] as well. I mean, yes, you have expensive
[32:19] homes around the exterior, but you also
[32:21] have people who want to live out here
[32:23] who grew up here or older people who
[32:25] want to go into smaller units. And so, I
[32:29] appreciate um in the future to contact
[32:31] us directly. Um we were told once again
[32:35] the mail, we were told that we were
[32:37] given this stuff. We never received
[32:39] anything in the mail. So, and then all
[32:41] of a sudden we found out that February
[32:43] 1st we had to have, you know, so we had
[32:46] to come up with thousands of dollars in
[32:48] order to pay for the fees all at one
[32:50] time with really no notice. And you
[32:53] know, you had decided made this decision
[32:55] back in November and I think it would
[32:57] have just been a really good um
[32:59] community if you would have included the
[33:02] people who are renting in your city.
[33:05] Thank you.
[33:06] >> Thank you.
[33:16] There we go.
[33:23] Hello.
[33:24] Sorry about that. Hello. My name is Ross
[33:27] Danielson. I live at 3616 20th Street
[33:30] Northeast in Buffalo. I have 18 rental
[33:33] units here in town. And again, we were
[33:37] blindsided. Also, um
[33:40] they just mentioned about the fees about
[33:42] thousands of dollars having to come up
[33:44] with the fees. It's kind of the same
[33:45] situation that you guys are running into
[33:47] right now with the railroad. It's going
[33:49] to cost you $48,000 is what it just
[33:52] said. It's not in your budget
[33:54] whatsoever. This is what is not in our
[33:56] budget at all either itself. So
[33:59] ultimately we try to keep our rents
[34:02] lower than we than market rate is and
[34:06] stuff. I maintain my units the best I
[34:09] can and stuff. We have tenants that they
[34:12] need something done. They're done. I had
[34:15] my inspections today and stuff. I had
[34:18] people back out today to fix the little
[34:21] items that was was asked to have
[34:23] repaired and stuff. So,
[34:27] the communication and the working with
[34:29] the city and the city has worked with
[34:32] us. It took 16 years to get Rockbrook
[34:36] Boulevard.
[34:39] Thanks to Jessica that came on and said,
[34:42] "Hey, we need that road fixed." We
[34:45] worked together and it worked out
[34:47] wonderful. I went to every single
[34:49] property owner. We had a conversation.
[34:51] We spent time together. We made a plan.
[34:53] She helped us do do an assessment
[34:55] against the property and it all worked
[34:57] out. Yes, it cost money. It's costing
[35:00] the the the you know the property owners
[35:02] and the current owners and stuff, but it
[35:05] was communication that worked together
[35:07] and we got it accomplished and
[35:09] everybody's happy.
[35:10] >> Can I make a clarification on that first
[35:12] though?
[35:12] >> Yep.
[35:13] >> The more that you That was actually not
[35:14] Jessica. That was Christy.
[35:16] >> Oh,
[35:17] >> that was Christie that did all that
[35:18] work. So, I just want to make that
[35:20] clarification.
[35:20] >> Okay. Sorry about that. No,
[35:22] >> you're fine. So, um, a lot of my
[35:24] communication was was through Jessica.
[35:26] So, anyways, thank you, Mantros, for
[35:29] working with us because that's the most
[35:31] important part. It was the communication
[35:33] that worked together that got a project
[35:36] that needed to get done accomplished.
[35:38] And that's the whole point I think that
[35:40] everybody has here. I'm not really sure
[35:42] how, you know, this is right to even be
[35:46] able to go into somebody else's home and
[35:49] inspect it and determine how they should
[35:53] live or what,
[35:55] you know, condition of what things are and stuff like that. I think that's
[35:59] a real invasion of privacy. It's to me
[36:01] it's redlinining. It's it's, you know,
[36:04] it's it's it's discrimination. But I
[36:08] know other communities doing it. So
[36:10] somewhere's along the line, they must
[36:12] have figured out somehow to make it
[36:13] legal, but um it is what it is. We we're
[36:17] working through it. Um I do have a point
[36:20] that Jonathan made up um and Sue made up
[36:24] the point too, trying to make housing
[36:27] affordable.
[36:30] Jonathan made the point that you can't
[36:32] have more than two families in a home
[36:36] and stuff. Sue made the point that we're
[36:40] trying to have affordable housing and to
[36:44] make it conducive for people to get
[36:47] started to work together. I had four
[36:50] young gentlemen very religious and stuff
[36:53] that couldn't afford by themselves. So
[36:55] they got out of two overexpensive rental
[36:58] properties. They came together and four
[37:00] of them rented a four bedroomedroom
[37:03] townhouse and stuff that knocked their
[37:06] rent down from 850 each to 450 each
[37:10] which made it affordable for them. But
[37:12] now my understanding and you guys will
[37:15] have to explain it to me how this is
[37:17] going to work and stuff. I would have to
[37:19] deny them a rent which I can't do under
[37:24] federal laws. So,
[37:29] » that's something that's that you it's
[37:31] going to have to be explained or how how
[37:33] do we work through it or what how do you
[37:35] handle a situation like that? Um
[37:39] other part of this um was the
[37:42] registering your renters and stuff for
[37:45] the utilities.
[37:47] You already have an ordinance in place
[37:50] that stipulates in the event that the
[37:53] utilities do not get paid, you certify
[37:56] them to my taxes
[37:58] and stuff. I asked the question and
[38:01] stuff, why doesn't the utilities then
[38:03] follow the tenant? Because the tenant
[38:07] can run. They get behind on their rent.
[38:09] They get behind in their utilities. They
[38:11] run and they might run to somebody
[38:14] else's unit within the city. Why doesn't
[38:17] that bill transfer to them when they
[38:20] apply
[38:22] for new utilities in a different unit in
[38:24] the same community?
[38:26] >> Because it's
[38:27] >> ultimately then if you know if they
[38:30] leave and go to a different community,
[38:31] ultimately you're going to certify it to
[38:33] my taxes anyway. So why are we
[38:36] registering them and making it my issue?
[38:40] So, I flew home from Arizona
[38:43] to handle this stuff and to register my
[38:47] tenants because I didn't have the
[38:50] capabilities of doing it from Arizona.
[38:52] Okay. I don't bring my computer with me.
[38:55] I detach completely. I have a phone.
[38:57] That's it. Nothing goes to my phone. So,
[39:00] anyways, um I'm not sure why a tenant
[39:03] can't register themselves for their
[39:07] utilities.
[39:08] So, that's a a question I have for the
[39:10] city, too. Um,
[39:20] I guess I'll I'll I'll stop there and
[39:23] stop before I run out of time because I
[39:25] know other people want to have some
[39:26] time, too. Okay.
[39:27] >> Thank you very much.
[39:28] >> Thank you.
[39:28] >> I hope we can follow up.
[39:42] I just heard a couple times and I'm
[39:43] Becky Yarns um a landlord and I've also
[39:46] got about 18 units but just was
[39:48] wondering um I love the idea hearing
[39:51] about a workshop
[39:53] >> and that would have been nice that we
[39:55] could go ahead and you know get
[39:57] information ask questions in a more
[40:00] informal situation.
[40:02] One of the other questions I have is if
[40:05] you don't get licensed, what happens? I
[40:09] mean,
[40:11] if if you don't get lensure,
[40:15] what happens to our with our tenants?
[40:17] And like many people said, we've been
[40:19] trying to keep our this is not uh we
[40:22] don't have any big businesses here. And
[40:26] I know I've had some of my tenants I've
[40:28] had for like 10 to 15 years. And so many
[40:32] of them are over 65
[40:35] and it's like they they're not making a
[40:38] lot of money. And so it feels like yes,
[40:41] property taxes are going up and the and
[40:44] the uh insurance is going up and now
[40:47] this.
[40:49] So that's another question. I'd love to
[40:51] see a workshop because I've got way too
[40:53] many questions. The other one too is um
[40:56] why what happens? This is our first time
[40:59] going through this. So, we don't even
[41:01] know what exactly West Metro is going to
[41:04] be looking at. Are they looking at how
[41:07] clean are people keep their places? I
[41:10] know I've got one gal with cancer. She
[41:12] can't move around that much. I've got
[41:14] another gal with one leg. She can't move
[41:17] around that much. And so, it's like how picky are they going to be? We don't
[41:24] know,
[41:25] you know, if the and and like uh when
[41:28] you walk into a place, you know, if I've
[41:30] got a landing, I've got a little scratch
[41:31] on the floor. Do we have to get new
[41:33] flooring for the whole unit or, you
[41:37] know, is that going to be okay?
[41:41] I would just love to see a workshop.
[41:44] Thank you.
[41:53] Hey, good evening. My name is Kevin
[41:55] Gtle. I live at 1855 Silverbell Road in
[41:58] Egan and I own some condos or I'm a
[42:02] partner in ownership in some condos on
[42:03] Mindy Lane. I'm also a commercial real
[42:05] estate guy and I work all over the state
[42:07] with apartment buildings and I own in
[42:09] other I own apartments and apartment
[42:12] buildings and condos in other mostly
[42:15] small towns around Minnesota. I was just
[42:18] wondering,
[42:20] are you able to tell me are the
[42:21] inspections going to be done within from
[42:23] city employees or are you hiring
[42:24] somebody from outside of the is it an
[42:27] outside firm that's going to be doing
[42:28] these or something? I heard somebody say
[42:30] there's an outside firm coming in.
[42:32] >> Uh we've hired Metro West to do all
[42:34] inspections.
[42:35] >> Oh, I can imagine they're expensive.
[42:38] >> No,
[42:39] >> I mean not incredibly expensive.
[42:40] >> Okay. I don't know what expensive is. I
[42:43] It just sounds expensive, maybe. Thank
[42:45] you for that. Absolutely.
[42:47] >> So, okay. Um, one of the things I was
[42:49] wondering because I also own a
[42:50] manufactured housing park, not here in
[42:52] town, but I heard that you're not going
[42:54] to inspect trailer homes that are
[42:56] rented. Is that correct?
[42:58] >> That is not correct. We are inspecting
[42:59] them. They are they are included.
[43:01] Correct. Yep. We've been in somebody's
[43:03] rent out a trailer house. They're
[43:04] getting inspected.
[43:04] >> Correct.
[43:05] >> Thank you. Good to know. I just wanted
[43:07] to talk about a couple of the fees that
[43:08] I pay in some of the other towns that
[43:10] are very similar to size and population
[43:12] and offerings. Truman, Winnebago, Blue
[43:15] Earth, Reborn. Nothing, nothing, Um, new 30 bucks a
[43:20] door per year. Mano, 45 bucks a door per
[43:24] year. So, the to me I'm still trying to
[43:27] pay the first half of
[43:32] last year's property taxes off after
[43:37] evicting a bunch of drug addicts that I
[43:39] inherited unknowingly at 5,000 bucks a
[43:43] shot with no rent. while I'm, you know,
[43:45] going through that process and a $20,000
[43:47] remodel on the unit. This is all very
[43:49] real numbers. We spend a million bucks
[43:52] in town on rentals and we haven't made a
[43:54] penny. So, but I think we're going to
[43:57] make money the next year and then the
[43:58] taxes go up and then I think we're going
[44:00] to make money the next year and then the
[44:01] association fees go up. All that we do
[44:04] is pass this on to the tenants and $125
[44:08] a door seems very extravagant um for I
[44:12] guess the size of the town or what I see
[44:14] in other cities. And we do just I'm I'm
[44:17] probably going to write something into
[44:18] my leases and pass that directly onto my
[44:22] tenants like I do move in fees. $200
[44:24] moving fee gets passed directly onto the
[44:26] tenant. So, we're trying to do some
[44:28] affordable housing. And the last person
[44:29] that looked at one of my units for lease
[44:32] here in town said I I asked I said is
[44:35] why are you here? Well, this is the
[44:36] cheapest place in Wright County that I
[44:39] can find to live. Okay, thank you. You
[44:41] know, um so passed on the costs. One of
[44:45] the things when I unfortunately I don't
[44:48] have my letter here that I got that I
[44:50] was given from the association, not from
[44:53] the city about what you guys are have
[44:55] passed already. I was I was confused
[44:58] reading through it if it's a two-year
[45:01] inspection versus a three-year
[45:02] inspection. I didn't really understand
[45:06] how often the inspections were going to
[45:08] be or if the original dues, the original
[45:11] cost to license something was the same
[45:13] as the later inspections. Some of that
[45:18] was kind of mis I couldn't really
[45:19] understand. Sounded like it contradicted
[45:22] itself in the paperwork.
[45:24] Um, so I just went through and told my
[45:29] tenants I was raising their rents. I got
[45:31] one old lady says I got to move out.
[45:35] I can't have her move out. I'm going to
[45:36] have to throw all that remodel into her
[45:39] apartment. I've got other ones that are
[45:41] also saying that younger ones saying I
[45:43] can't. We're going to have to give our
[45:45] notice. I tried to go to 1400. The girl
[45:47] settled at 1,500 or 1350 to stay for 6
[45:50] months. The other one I they're strong
[45:53] iron. They're going to they're going to
[45:54] leave me empty if I raise their rents.
[45:58] No, my fees go up regardless.
[46:01] Pretty soon I'm going to have to
[46:02] refinance that loan and I'm going to be
[46:04] negative. It's not really and I I you
[46:08] know, actually the next one I have
[46:09] coming open, I'm going to put it up for
[46:10] sale because it's just been one thing
[46:14] after the next. Can't get contractors to
[46:17] come to Montro. The price of, you know,
[46:20] even a refrigerator these days is crazy.
[46:22] So, at $125 a door, I was going to ask
[46:26] that you might reconsider that fee. I
[46:29] just got the letter about the fees. I
[46:31] haven't even paid mine yet. So, I was
[46:34] hoping that we were all going to lock
[46:35] arms and ask that these fees would be
[46:38] lowered.
[46:41] Maybe it's too late, but I'm asking that
[46:43] the fees be lowered. I'm asking that
[46:45] these fees be because 1,250 bucks to my
[46:48] little account here at my Mundy
[46:51] Apartments over here. here. Mindy Lane,
[46:53] I don't have it.
[46:54] >> I ain't got it.
[46:56] >> I'll come up with it somehow if I have
[46:57] to. I I think I have till the end of
[46:59] this month before I get a fine or a fee.
[47:01] I'm not even really sure. Um but yeah,
[47:05] thank you for all of that. Um
[47:09] and then yeah, if we had a guide of what
[47:11] we were expected when what to expect
[47:15] when the inspectors come through, that'd
[47:16] be helpful as well.
[47:18] >> Thanks. Thanks very much.
[47:20] >> Thank you.
[47:37] My name is Alan Williamson. I rent from
[47:40] the Donaldsons. I've been with them for
[47:43] nine years. I have no problem paying my
[47:46] rent, which is good. But this fee that
[47:51] you're charging, the inspections that
[47:54] you're doing, and the people you're
[47:56] choosing to do them too is ridiculous.
[48:00] Usually renters are people who can't
[48:03] afford to live in a home or a private
[48:07] home and or they choose not to live in a
[48:12] private home because they can't do the mowing and the snow plowing and
[48:17] things of that nature. needs to be done.
[48:21] The fee you're charging is going to
[48:23] raise my rent, I would estimate $20 a
[48:26] month.
[48:28] And for people, some people that I know,
[48:31] that's extravagant. They can't afford
[48:33] $20 a month for this fee that you're
[48:36] charging. The other thing, it doesn't
[48:39] state anywhere in the letter how often
[48:41] you're going to do this inspection. Are
[48:43] you going to do it once a day? You going
[48:45] to do it once a week? You going to do it
[48:47] once a month, once a year, once every
[48:50] five years? What's the what's what's the
[48:53] per periodic rate? I mean, if you're not
[48:56] going if you're going to wait a year to
[48:58] do an inspection, then all the batteries
[49:01] can go bad on smoke alarms. All kinds of
[49:04] things can happen in a year.
[49:07] Also, why aren't you expanding this
[49:09] program out to private homes? This
[49:11] inspection needs to be done in private
[49:13] homes just as much as it needs to be be
[49:16] done in apartments. So by
[49:21] bringing this into a small group of just
[49:23] renters, you're discriminating against
[49:25] renters, you're saying you're second
[49:28] rate citizens. We don't want you here.
[49:33] And to me, it's a travesty.
[49:37] I I believe that this
[49:41] program that you're doing is illegal. Uh
[49:44] it's discriminatory
[49:47] and I have a feeling that the state of
[49:50] Minnesota and the city of Monro and all
[49:54] these other cities that's adopting this
[49:56] principle is end going to end up in a
[49:59] class action lawsuit.
[50:02] That's all I have to say. Thank you.
[50:04] >> Thank you.
[50:11] Hello, I'm Bill Fiser. Uh, I guess my
[50:15] address 7062 6th Street Southeast
[50:18] Buffalo.
[50:20] Um, I am vice president of the Country
[50:23] View Estates and uh, I guess I'm kind of
[50:26] ditto on everything that's kind of been
[50:29] said before me. Um, I personally have
[50:33] never been contacted by the city or
[50:36] anyone of the city. Um, I think there's
[50:38] a lot of hearsay going on.
[50:41] Like I'd heard that the trailer courts
[50:43] weren't going to get inspected or what
[50:45] have you. And and so I think because
[50:48] there was never a workshop or what have
[50:50] you. Um there's a lot of
[50:53] miscommunication
[50:55] and things uh going around because
[50:59] nobody's had a formal meeting to really
[51:02] go over some of the documents that I
[51:04] have kind of received secondhand. Um I
[51:08] think were preliminary things that
[51:10] things did change out of those
[51:12] documents. Um as whatever did get final,
[51:15] I guess. I don't I like I say I don't
[51:18] know. I don't uh I haven't uh registered
[51:21] any of my units and what have you. Um
[51:25] just seems to be over and over more and
[51:28] more government overreach in my opinion.
[51:31] And uh I used to have 21 rental units.
[51:34] I'm down to eight and I'm actually
[51:36] redoing one in Country View and selling
[51:38] it. I the least amount of these rentals
[51:41] I can have I have no rights anymore and
[51:44] um it's a government overreach. just
[51:47] gets to be too much. But I would like to
[51:49] see uh some kind of a workshop or what
[51:54] have you and and get this nailed down to
[51:56] who's who and what and get all the
[51:59] landlords um notified and and then
[52:03] notified of what is what are the rules,
[52:06] what do we need to do and what have you
[52:08] that way. So,
[52:10] thank you.
[52:11] >> Thank you.
[52:14] All
[52:20] right. Anyone else want to speak?
[52:24] Come on up.
[52:26] >> I'll be very quick. I'm Scott Stovone
[52:29] with Stomo Real Estate and Property
[52:30] Management. We manage multiple
[52:32] properties here in Montro and all around
[52:35] the area. Um the biggest thing my
[52:38] question for you is what we are having
[52:42] issues with other cities when it comes
[52:44] to the inspections nowadays. Um we're
[52:46] having a lot of tenants that are
[52:48] refusing to allow the inspectors into
[52:52] the their homes
[52:55] and for good reason. You we all watch
[52:57] the news um and they're scared. They
[53:02] know us, trust us. We do our
[53:04] inspections. they're fine with that. But
[53:06] when someone official comes in, it
[53:08] scares them. So, and that's going to
[53:12] happen in your community, too. You got
[53:13] to figure out what are you going to do
[53:15] when that happens. Are you going to pull
[53:18] that rental license? Are you going to
[53:19] kick them out of the street? What is going to happen at that point
[53:25] for them? All right, that's it.
[53:29] >> Thank you.
[53:29] >> Thanks.
[53:35] All right. We got anyone else who would
[53:37] like to speak?
[53:43] Doesn't look like we do. All right. Um,
[53:47] here's what I'm going to propose. I I'd
[53:50] like to have a workshop with all of you.
[53:52] Um, let's sit down. Let's kind of go
[53:55] over this ordinance. Um, and get your
[53:58] guys' feedback on this. Um, we are more
[54:00] than willing to work with you guys on
[54:01] this. Um, so I think that should
[54:04] probably be our next step here. Um, if
[54:08] that's suitable for you guys. Again, I
[54:10] mean, we're more than willing to work
[54:12] with you. Um, I mean, the lack of
[54:14] communication. Yep. I I mean, the city
[54:17] will own that. You know, we apologize
[54:19] for that, but let's let's sit down.
[54:20] Let's have a workshop. Let's go through
[54:22] this and let's hammer it out and make
[54:24] sure it's kind of fair for everybody.
[54:26] Does that sound sound good?
[54:28] >> Yeah.
[54:29] Absolutely.
[54:30] >> Quick question.
[54:31] >> Yeah, of course.
[54:31] >> With that with the fees and the
[54:33] inspections, the insp
[54:38] workshop.
[54:39] >> Yeah, I'm going to suggest that we do
[54:41] put a pause on that right now. Um I'm
[54:44] guessing we probably need a motion to
[54:46] pause that. But um yeah, I would uh I
[54:49] would think we should probably put a
[54:50] pause on that for now until we can sit
[54:52] down and
[54:53] >> follow the ones that inspection.
[54:56] >> Yep. I knew that was coming. What do we
[54:58] do from there?
[55:04] » What are our thoughts here?
[55:09] » Yeah.
[55:11] >> No, no. I I I totally I totally
[55:13] understand. I was I was thinking that
[55:15] through my head as everybody was talking
[55:16] what that would look like and I I don't
[55:18] know what that's going to look like
[55:19] right at this moment in time.
[55:21] >> Yeah.
[55:22] >> Just comment in what your response was.
[55:24] See, one of the items that I forgot to
[55:27] ask about is I have some tenants that
[55:30] are out of state for the winter.
[55:32] >> Mhm.
[55:33] >> You know, and they're not returning.
[55:36] They have security on their home. They
[55:38] have video in their house and I don't
[55:41] have access
[55:42] >> right
[55:44] >> and I was told that I could possibly be
[55:46] fined for every month until they get
[55:49] home. But that shouldn't be
[55:52] >> that shouldn't be work.
[55:54] >> Yep. I I agree. I agree. So, let's set up a workshop. Like to work
[56:01] with you guys on this. Um, you know, as
[56:03] far as the pause and everything, we can
[56:05] figure that out during the workshop. I,
[56:08] like I said, I've been racking my brain
[56:09] as you guys were all talking, trying to
[56:10] figure out how that would work. But, um,
[56:12] so, yeah, let's set that up. Council, we
[56:16] good with that?
[56:20] » I'm good with that. I would recommend
[56:22] since we've had issues with mail, can
[56:25] each landlord supply uh an email address
[56:29] to the city so we can get direct contact
[56:31] because I want to make sure you guys get
[56:33] that.
[56:34] >> Thank you.
[56:35] >> Those of us who have registered should
[56:37] have our email.
[56:39] >> Yeah.
[56:39] >> Yep.
[56:41] >> Send them registration.
[56:46] So I do know that um this information
[56:48] was sent out like months ago. Um
[56:57] » so then how then how did you
[57:02] by the end of the month that was the
[57:04] notification I had to call find out what
[57:07] this all about. So, all of this
[57:09] paperwork started going out in October
[57:11] and you know, obviously we can't control
[57:13] it once it leaves the city. Um, but we
[57:16] certainly have prepared those documents
[57:18] and sent them out. We did struggle with
[57:21] sending information to Country View
[57:23] because we don't have those owners
[57:25] names. Um, I do have copies of emails
[57:27] here where we started asking for that
[57:29] information in August and we were denied
[57:31] the information. So we we did, you know,
[57:34] in fairness, we did have a difficult
[57:36] time getting a hold of owners at at
[57:38] Country View because when we contact
[57:41] when we made contact with that person,
[57:42] we were unable to
[57:44] >> Let's do this. Let's let's not worry
[57:45] about the communication piece. I mean,
[57:47] that's over and done. It's water in the
[57:49] bridge. We don't need to sit here and go
[57:50] back and forth on it. Let's just let's
[57:52] get a meeting set up. Let's get a
[57:53] workshop set up and we can we can start
[57:56] from there. We'll just kind of I won't
[57:58] say start from scratch, but get your
[57:59] guys' input on what this would look
[58:01] like. I just want to get comment on the
[58:03] rent. I mean, when the rent goes through
[58:05] the city, it may be 10, 15 days before
[58:08] the owners get that rent. So, there is
[58:10] an issue with Montro's mail and we all
[58:12] know that issues with Howard Lake. Yep.
[58:15] >> All straight down.
[58:16] >> So, I guess when we say that, we're not
[58:19] attacking the city, right?
[58:21] >> But we're just coming up with the facts
[58:22] that we did not receive,
[58:23] >> right?
[58:24] >> Yep. Nope. Totally understand. So,
[58:29] all right. So, we will have the city get
[58:31] a hold of you guys. We'll set up a
[58:32] workshop and kind of go through
[58:34] everything, kind of hash everything out
[58:36] and come up with something that works
[58:37] for all involved.
[58:39] >> All right. We need a motion for that. I
[58:42] don't think so.
[58:43] >> Okay.
[58:45] All right. Are we good?
[58:47] >> Perfect.
[58:48] >> Love to hear
[58:50] just to make sure that we're all on the
[58:52] same page.
[58:52] >> Yes, sir.
[58:54] Can we all of us that are here email to
[58:58] the city?
[58:59] >> Yep.
[58:59] >> To Christie and just confirm this is the
[59:02] email. This is get us on the list and
[59:05] make sure that
[59:07] we are all in their system so that we
[59:11] get the back.
[59:12] >> Yep. The order to call the
[59:15] >> all of us here right for the owners to
[59:18] take it.
[59:20] required to register your your
[59:22] utilities. Your information's on there,
[59:24] our email, our contact, all of that's on
[59:26] that on there. But
[59:30] just to make sure we're following up,
[59:32] let's everybody here email
[59:35] back to confirm you're on the list so
[59:39] that when this workshop comes together,
[59:42] there should be a group email that can
[59:45] be, you know, 30, 40, 50, 60, whoever
[59:49] come into the workshop
[59:52] >> that there's a group email that comes
[59:53] back out and we all get it and we're all
[59:56] on the same page.
[59:58] >> Sound good?
[59:59] >> Sounds good to me.
[1:00:07] » Sounds like somebody out there is
[1:00:08] bringing the donuts. So, who it's going
[1:00:11] to be?
[1:00:16] Wow. Welcome to Montro.
[1:00:20] All right, if we got no further
[1:00:21] discussion, we're going to move along to
[1:00:23] classification and compensation study.
[1:00:26] >> Mayor and council, included in your
[1:00:27] packet tonight, there was a formal
[1:00:30] proposal from DDA and Associates um for
[1:00:34] a classification and compensation study.
[1:00:37] I did reach out to four different
[1:00:39] companies. Uh two responded. The other
[1:00:43] one I did not get a formal proposal from
[1:00:45] Abdo. Um he quickly this afternoon sent
[1:00:48] me an email with an amount. Um so um his
[1:00:54] amount that he sent me was 11,300.
[1:00:59] » That was Abdo.
[1:01:00] >> I'm sorry.
[1:01:01] >> That was Abdo.
[1:01:04] And the other one included in the packet
[1:01:07] that we received. Um there was a couple
[1:01:11] different options.
[1:01:13] Um, I would say to be most comparison,
[1:01:17] uh, the fourth option that they included
[1:01:19] would probably be apples to apples to
[1:01:21] abd,000
[1:01:24] >> and that was 9,000.
[1:01:26] So, I did ask about a timeline for this.
[1:01:30] Um, they would it would take about 2 to
[1:01:32] 3 months to complete. Uh, Abdo
[1:01:36] recommended waiting until after the
[1:01:38] salaries came out at the end of June. Um
[1:01:41] I disagree with that and believe we need
[1:01:43] to get moving forward with this um so
[1:01:46] that perhaps we can have it done in May
[1:01:49] completed.
[1:01:51] If we wait until the end of June for
[1:01:53] that study to come out, we are looking
[1:01:55] at an end date of October.
[1:02:08] Council, what's your thoughts?
[1:02:15] I will also say Abdo did find that they
[1:02:18] did one 10 years ago.
[1:02:20] >> So that was probably our last one.
[1:02:21] >> That was the last one and they should be
[1:02:23] done every 3 to five.
[1:02:24] >> Okay.
[1:02:26] >> I do think it's very important that we
[1:02:28] do this.
[1:02:30] >> I agree and I uh plan to have it going
[1:02:32] forward. We can pick so many years
[1:02:35] >> at a later date, but to get it on a
[1:02:37] plan.
[1:02:37] >> Yep.
[1:02:39] I do also agree that we need to do these
[1:02:42] more regularly, like you said, the three
[1:02:44] to five years, but I agree with Jackie.
[1:02:45] I think waiting
[1:02:47] >> and not having it done to October is not
[1:02:49] good for us,
[1:02:50] >> right?
[1:02:53] » And I think with kind of the reorg that
[1:02:57] city's going through, I think this is a
[1:02:59] perfect time to do it. So,
[1:03:05] what are your guys' thoughts?
[1:03:08] I mean, obviously I like the 9,000
[1:03:10] better than the 11,300.
[1:03:13] And you said, Jackie, these are pretty
[1:03:14] much apples to apples. Uh, you said
[1:03:17] number four here to what?
[1:03:20] >> Yeah, I can send around. I put a
[1:03:21] screenshot on my phone because that's
[1:03:23] all I have. It's a number.
[1:03:25] >> That's fine.
[1:03:26] >> Where in the budget is that?
[1:03:31] » I'm going to figure that out.
[1:03:33] >> Okay.
[1:03:34] Um, probably part of it I was going to
[1:03:37] put through more like a council
[1:03:38] miscellaneous has kind of a larger line
[1:03:41] item that is available and nothing is
[1:03:44] occupied by that or planned for that
[1:03:46] amount.
[1:03:53] » What's the fee you're looking for?
[1:03:55] >> Um,
[1:03:56] >> 9,000.
[1:03:57] through Yep. DDA and Associates.
[1:04:00] >> David Drone.
[1:04:02] Yeah, that's what we did when um
[1:04:08] trying to think what city administrator
[1:04:10] name, but I remember that. Okay. I say
[1:04:13] the other two uh Keystone just had no
[1:04:15] availability. They're completely bogged
[1:04:17] down. And then Ellers, I did not even
[1:04:20] get a remark back from Ellers.
[1:04:22] >> That one surprised me.
[1:04:23] >> I agree.
[1:04:24] >> They would have been on top of it.
[1:04:26] >> And I did reach back out to Ellers and
[1:04:28] still nothing.
[1:04:37] I'll make a motion to approve the $9,000
[1:04:39] for the classification and compensation
[1:04:40] study.
[1:04:41] >> I'll second.
[1:04:43] >> Any further discussion?
[1:04:46] >> Mr. Nelson,
[1:04:47] >> I.
[1:04:47] >> Miss Paradise,
[1:04:48] >> I.
[1:04:49] >> Mr. Vontoma,
[1:04:50] >> I.
[1:04:51] >> Miss Otto,
[1:04:52] >> I
[1:04:52] >> I'll vote. I passes 5.
[1:04:59] All right. Moving on to Moto Haven
[1:05:02] autocross concept.
[1:05:09] You're up.
[1:05:25] Nope. You ready?
[1:05:36] Hi,
[1:05:38] >> thank you.
[1:05:39] >> Yeah.
[1:05:39] >> Uh I'm Rick Harrison, Rick Harrison site
[1:05:42] design. I'm going to introduce the team
[1:05:44] here in a minute.
[1:05:46] Uh this um autocross is a legacy for the
[1:05:51] Thompson family. We've got uh Jay-Hawk
[1:05:55] over here if you want to stand up for a
[1:05:57] second. Uh
[1:06:00] he's really uh the one that
[1:06:05] you know I met Jay-Hawk maybe
[1:06:07] >> I am an older guy
[1:06:09] >> year and a half ago and it was like this
[1:06:12] energy that he had that kind of drew me
[1:06:15] in. But uh this is him 55 years ago when
[1:06:19] he discovered autocross for the first
[1:06:22] time. And uh it pretty much dove into
[1:06:26] this and raised his family around
[1:06:28] autocross. And I was a founder of the
[1:06:32] Minnesota Auto Sports Club 53 years ago.
[1:06:35] to him. Um, and then his son, uh, John
[1:06:40] Thompson,
[1:06:41] uh, you know, they he's he's taken on
[1:06:44] that. Uh, and for John, I I just went on
[1:06:49] to that website and I I found in 1997,
[1:06:52] he was number two in his class on
[1:06:55] Minnesota Autoports Club. And, uh, they
[1:06:58] raised their family around it and and
[1:07:01] they they pretty much are experts on it.
[1:07:05] Um Rick Storland is the architect on the
[1:07:10] units and Rick was uh involved in the
[1:07:13] original uh autoplex that Bruno put
[1:07:17] together that started this whole trend.
[1:07:20] And uh these are not autoplexes. These
[1:07:23] are light industrial but uh he and uh
[1:07:29] Jay-Hawk Thompson has been working on
[1:07:31] perfecting this unit. So this is light
[1:07:34] industrial. This is could be
[1:07:36] autorelated, but it's business related
[1:07:39] for number one. Uh I've had a passion of
[1:07:42] uh uh cars uh since I've been 15. I've
[1:07:46] had some pretty wild stuff. Uh but I I
[1:07:50] uh I'm head of the Aston Martin owners
[1:07:53] group for the Midwest and been an Aston
[1:07:56] Martin owner for forever. Uh, but I run
[1:07:59] my business like the automotive
[1:08:01] industry. We're a research and
[1:08:02] development company to discover new
[1:08:05] technologies and methods for land
[1:08:07] development. And we've been doing that
[1:08:08] for about 35 years. We have almost 2,000
[1:08:11] projects around the the world using
[1:08:15] these methods. And Montro 25 years ago
[1:08:18] for pilot land, I did these two sites. I
[1:08:21] think I did another site, but I couldn't
[1:08:23] um find it. The one site didn't happen.
[1:08:27] Uh I did Westridge Village in Delano 20
[1:08:30] years ago and more recently Green Bar
[1:08:33] Hills. Uh that was mine. And I've got
[1:08:36] another 80 acre site in um Maple Lake
[1:08:40] that's not ready to come on the market
[1:08:43] yet. And then we've got the uh autocross
[1:08:47] track on the souththeast corner of 12
[1:08:50] and 25.
[1:08:52] Uh Rosano Ree is uh general counsel. Uh
[1:08:55] he's uh That's a nice nice photo.
[1:09:00] >> I've been waiting for this.
[1:09:03] He didn't know I was going to do this.
[1:09:07] It's amazing what you could do online.
[1:09:09] >> Yeah, no kidding. But uh I met uh so
[1:09:12] Rousano's been in the banking industry,
[1:09:15] mortgage industry and uh then after the
[1:09:18] recession he's uh was head of head sales
[1:09:21] at uh Aston Martin now at Ferrari and
[1:09:24] very well connected in town and he's
[1:09:26] going to be helping.
[1:09:28] Andrew Baronburgg, this is uh Andrew and
[1:09:31] his Corvette
[1:09:33] uh that they picked it up. So we're car people. Um
[1:09:38] a little bit about the site. It's 100
[1:09:40] acres approximately.
[1:09:43] Um we um Andy met with um uh the mindot
[1:09:48] people and they preferred the entrance
[1:09:50] across Arizona. This is some recent
[1:09:53] changes in the plan. Uh so this plan
[1:09:56] reflects that and of course this is
[1:09:58] concept. concept means, you know, as we
[1:10:01] start surveying and engineering, we we
[1:10:04] hope to get it close, but uh there could
[1:10:06] be changes. Uh we we'll have an entrance
[1:10:10] off of 25. Uh the lanes will be 25 foot
[1:10:13] wide. Um and the autocross is in the
[1:10:16] middle. So, there's really two
[1:10:18] businesses here.
[1:10:21] The um industrial, we call them town
[1:10:24] homes. Uh uh these there's 178 proposed
[1:10:28] units. That could change depending on uh
[1:10:31] engineering, but uh probably 178's on
[1:10:35] the high side.
[1:10:37] Um and then the tracks are variable and
[1:10:40] I'm going to talk a little bit about
[1:10:42] that uh in in a bit, but I want to start
[1:10:44] out with the um the town homes. U
[1:10:48] detention is proposed in those areas. Um
[1:10:53] there's these will be a steel
[1:10:56] construction. They want to open up a
[1:10:59] local plant not just for these units but
[1:11:02] for regional
[1:11:04] uh units and the clubhouse is going to
[1:11:06] be by the entrance. We'll talk about
[1:11:09] that in a minute. Now what's interesting
[1:11:12] is
[1:11:13] um
[1:11:15] when I saw the top I thought how we're
[1:11:17] going to pull this off. So, we did run
[1:11:19] some initial earth work and we got the
[1:11:22] earth work to balance. Now, it does
[1:11:25] drop, but it drops in like a half a
[1:11:28] mile. So, it's going to be just a slight
[1:11:30] slope that no one's even going to
[1:11:32] notice,
[1:11:33] >> but it does balance out. So, we checked
[1:11:36] that before we even
[1:11:39] pursued the site.
[1:11:40] >> Right.
[1:11:41] Uh Moto Haven Executive Estates are the
[1:11:45] um industrial units and they're in four
[1:11:49] unit buildings. Uh each building has
[1:11:52] four units that could be configured in
[1:11:53] one business or two or three or what you
[1:11:56] know it it's variable but they're
[1:11:58] modules. Um Jay-Hawk and and Rick can
[1:12:03] talk you know more in details for
[1:12:05] questions on that. It is not an
[1:12:07] autoplex.
[1:12:09] It's um it could be, you know, uh for
[1:12:13] car storage. It's it's a light
[1:12:16] industrial PUD.
[1:12:18] They're modular and they're consistent.
[1:12:21] They're for sale units, so you're going
[1:12:23] to buy the units. So, that's why we call
[1:12:25] them like industrial town homes. They're
[1:12:28] not for rent. They have low uh traffic,
[1:12:31] so they're not like retail stores with a
[1:12:34] lot of traffic. And uh so that's limited
[1:12:37] customer parking. And again, they're not
[1:12:39] specifically vehicle oriented, but we
[1:12:42] anticipate a lot of them are are going
[1:12:44] to be uh vehicle oriented.
[1:12:47] Um again, each four uh pod uh can be
[1:12:52] separated and uh each unit is uh 60 foot
[1:12:56] deep and 30 foot wide, multi-story.
[1:13:02] Um, and then what's unique is this 20
[1:13:05] foot outside storage
[1:13:09] and um 80 foot deep. And I don't know of
[1:13:12] any of these units like I'm in a
[1:13:14] industrial unit. I just thought that
[1:13:16] this was kind of brilliant and very
[1:13:19] unique and I thought it would be a real
[1:13:21] big plus. They're concrete construction
[1:13:25] so you've got that soundproofed um
[1:13:29] Jay-Hawk likes to say bulletproof. I I
[1:13:31] hope that neighbors are not shooting at
[1:13:33] each other.
[1:13:36] >> Yeah.
[1:13:40] » Um
[1:13:42] but but for fire they're they're um
[1:13:45] they're they're they're concrete
[1:13:48] relatively fireproof, but that 40 foot
[1:13:50] separation is also uh fireproof. Now
[1:13:54] this is outside my my office. I'm in a
[1:13:56] warehouse and you can see Total Comfort
[1:14:00] Parks up the parking lot. Um, Phantom
[1:14:05] Screens at night parks up the parking
[1:14:07] lot and then there's times where someone
[1:14:09] visiting my office has to go to the
[1:14:11] other end of the parking lot just
[1:14:12] because they park it up because there's
[1:14:14] no outside storage.
[1:14:17] Um, this is my office. Excuse the mess,
[1:14:20] but there's a literal hole in my wall
[1:14:26] that goes to the neighbor. I could look
[1:14:27] into my neighbors. There's no fire. If
[1:14:30] they caught fire, I'm I'm I'm bad shape.
[1:14:33] As far as soundproofing, two doors down
[1:14:36] was the game show. You couldn't have a
[1:14:39] louder business. They were there for a
[1:14:41] decade. They just moved to West End.
[1:14:44] That was my neighbor. nothing I could do
[1:14:46] about it. I had to listen to that. So,
[1:14:50] uh just a little tour of what these are
[1:14:52] like. You have, you know, outside
[1:14:54] storage and in this case it's, you know,
[1:14:57] this is auto oriented, but again, you
[1:15:00] could have 20 foot ceilings. I could
[1:15:02] tell you we have 20 foot ceilings in in
[1:15:04] our uh office. I can tell you there
[1:15:07] isn't a single tenant that's using 20
[1:15:09] foot ceilings. None. Nobody is. It's
[1:15:12] just empty space. But these could have
[1:15:16] 20 foot ceilings, but they're um you
[1:15:18] know, this is an example of the a spa
[1:15:22] and a gazebo business. They can have
[1:15:24] that space to display their gazeos.
[1:15:27] Every unit's going to have an upper
[1:15:29] deck.
[1:15:30] Every unit can see the racetrack from
[1:15:33] the upper deck. So, there's a this upper
[1:15:36] area. You go down the steps. Now, this
[1:15:38] floor can be configured any which way.
[1:15:41] You This one has a bedroom. It has a
[1:15:44] little kitchenet, office space,
[1:15:46] bathroom,
[1:15:47] you know, if if someone needed to stay
[1:15:49] overnight or or work late or weekends.
[1:15:53] Then um then the the lower level and
[1:15:56] again this could have 20 foot ceilings,
[1:15:58] it could be two one story, it could be
[1:16:00] two stories, but it's the same module.
[1:16:02] So each business will be able to vary
[1:16:07] and that's what makes it unique. Um,
[1:16:11] so the outside storage would look about
[1:16:13] like that. And and this is we try to get
[1:16:16] it as close to the actual architecture
[1:16:18] as possible. The thermostat building
[1:16:21] uses uh the panels including the ceiling
[1:16:24] will be concrete. So uh it's it's they
[1:16:28] do the u the the floors and the ceilings
[1:16:31] will also be concrete. And these are
[1:16:34] some examples of the the units. Um the
[1:16:38] initial ramp I talked with Charlie the
[1:16:40] CEO and he thought that 10 employees
[1:16:43] originally ramping up to 20 in that
[1:16:46] plant.
[1:16:47] Um and it's going to serve a large
[1:16:50] geographic area and uh Jay-Hawk thinks
[1:16:53] they'll be up to about 35 sales staff to
[1:16:57] serve that. Now the competition
[1:17:00] which really isn't because this is the
[1:17:02] autoplex is West End and Delano.
[1:17:06] Um, you can see these units are
[1:17:07] expensive and it says sold out and one
[1:17:10] left at $350,000.
[1:17:14] It doesn't say you can have your
[1:17:16] business in there.
[1:17:18] That's the difference. Who is it perfect
[1:17:20] for? Just like every other auto, but
[1:17:22] you're not running your business legally
[1:17:24] out of there. This again is not an auto.
[1:17:27] It's light industrial. If you want to
[1:17:29] store your cars, that's great. That's
[1:17:31] the difference.
[1:17:33] Um it's more like where I rent.
[1:17:37] Uh speed is the um
[1:17:41] autocross
[1:17:45] um entity that it's speed is the entity
[1:17:48] that that runs the autocross portion of
[1:17:50] this.
[1:17:52] Um
[1:17:54] it'll be an ideal
[1:17:57] platform
[1:17:59] uh for automotive events because of its
[1:18:01] space.
[1:18:04] I go to these caravans and there's a a a facility just like this
[1:18:10] around um Rogers. I made the mistake of
[1:18:14] going there for an event.
[1:18:17] I pulled in all of a sudden there's five
[1:18:21] or six cars behind me and I my tolerance
[1:18:23] for these shows was like a half an hour
[1:18:25] and I'm out of there. I was stuck there
[1:18:27] the whole day. there was no getting out
[1:18:31] and uh you know so this is not an event
[1:18:35] spot
[1:18:37] when you look at speed we're looking at
[1:18:41] the uh community center and the um and the track
[1:18:47] it stands for spirited educational
[1:18:49] driving learning the limits of car
[1:18:51] control and so most people know how to
[1:18:55] drive a car but during an emergency
[1:18:57] mergency, how are they going to respond?
[1:19:01] Autocross is the ideal training ground
[1:19:05] for that. So, um, John Thompson, he's
[1:19:09] going to head up that whole thing.
[1:19:12] Um, I personally don't do autocross. I I
[1:19:15] but I I don't race a car. I don't drive
[1:19:17] it hard, but my son does.
[1:19:21] And
[1:19:22] you're not going to hit a wall. You're
[1:19:24] not going to hit something. It's just
[1:19:27] cones
[1:19:28] and it's safe and it's not fast.
[1:19:32] Um, and so John's been doing this his
[1:19:36] lifetime. Jay-Hawk has been doing this
[1:19:39] his lifetime. And they're going to be
[1:19:40] the training facility and they're going
[1:19:42] to put that together.
[1:19:44] And it's for anybody, any car, any any
[1:19:48] uh any four-wheel vehic ve vehicle. So,
[1:19:51] anybody benefits from learning how to
[1:19:52] drive safer.
[1:19:55] Um,
[1:19:57] and those courses because they're just
[1:19:58] cones vary depending on who you are,
[1:20:02] what you want to learn. Um, emergency
[1:20:05] crews, fire and police
[1:20:07] training ground for that, too. And, um,
[1:20:12] you know, snow and ice recovery when
[1:20:14] there's snow and ice, it you know, it it
[1:20:17] could still run. So, that's the training
[1:20:20] component, but autocross is also a
[1:20:23] competition.
[1:20:25] So, it's a sport.
[1:20:27] It's to um now you're pressured to make
[1:20:30] the best time.
[1:20:32] Uh generally,
[1:20:35] it's uh slow.
[1:20:38] It's that's a very tight course. And
[1:20:41] it's it's um requires a helmet, a car,
[1:20:45] and a driver's license.
[1:20:48] So I started I you know I'm not an
[1:20:52] expert on it so I you know but I
[1:20:54] investigate these things. I'm thinking
[1:20:55] well how many other autocross tracks are
[1:20:58] there? And if you go on the internet
[1:21:01] says no official count there's 1100
[1:21:03] autocross events every year from the
[1:21:06] sports car association of America just
[1:21:08] that one organization.
[1:21:11] And there's no official registry of of
[1:21:13] autocross tracks because I couldn't find
[1:21:15] anything that actually existed. They're
[1:21:17] parking lots. Put cones in a parking
[1:21:19] lot, you got an autocross track. This is
[1:21:21] an actual full-time business.
[1:21:25] So, we believe that Montro is going to
[1:21:27] be ground zero for autocross.
[1:21:31] And um speeds rarely exceed 50 miles an
[1:21:36] hour. 5560 is tops because they're just
[1:21:39] you just can't get any faster. The focus
[1:21:42] is on cornering. It's on timing. It's on
[1:21:44] speed.
[1:21:46] And um
[1:21:49] so
[1:21:50] it's about balancing the cars. Now I've
[1:21:53] taken performance courses at at Aston
[1:21:56] Martin and I learned a lot in one day.
[1:21:59] It was pretty phenomenal.
[1:22:01] I didn't know all this stuff. And this
[1:22:06] course is going to be a whole lot more
[1:22:07] accessible. It's going to be a lot
[1:22:09] cheaper than the course I took.
[1:22:12] And it's going to be local. You don't
[1:22:14] have to get on a plane and fly
[1:22:15] somewhere. There's four courses.
[1:22:18] So, there'll be four events going on or
[1:22:21] four, you know, you can have four clubs
[1:22:23] uh on it at any time. The competition uh
[1:22:27] Brainer International Raceway is not an
[1:22:31] autocross. It is a racetrack.
[1:22:34] It is a place where you could get in
[1:22:37] trouble. Now, these are videos I took on
[1:22:40] the Aston Martin day that I was there
[1:22:42] and that there's a gray DB11 in the
[1:22:46] background there and that car went into
[1:22:48] the wall and that totaled a4 million
[1:22:51] dollar car at one event. So, it's
[1:22:55] expensive.
[1:22:56] It's very, very expensive. It's two
[1:22:58] hours from Minneapolis versus 35 minutes
[1:23:01] from Minneapolis. So, this is much
[1:23:03] better location for an auto an event.
[1:23:07] The Gary Curtis driving experience is at
[1:23:10] the Rosemont's truck trainer training
[1:23:12] facility. They have six days available
[1:23:14] in 2026 for renting the track. It's high
[1:23:18] speed. It could you could get in
[1:23:20] trouble.
[1:23:22] Um so that is not competition. Elco
[1:23:26] Speedways a 38 small oval which
[1:23:31] not really competition.
[1:23:33] Um, we're proposing a clubhouse with a
[1:23:37] restaurant, car rental and maintenance.
[1:23:39] I know that Jay-Hawk's been talking with
[1:23:41] the city. Is that going to be a city
[1:23:42] facility?
[1:23:45] You know, so this is something that will
[1:23:47] morph. That's a very big facility. uh
[1:23:50] Rick designed it and um you know it
[1:23:54] that's that's a really big big uh
[1:23:56] facility and and out of that's going to
[1:23:59] have rental cars for people to rent a
[1:24:01] car for the tracks
[1:24:03] >> and the maintenance of those cars will
[1:24:05] be there. Uh we talked with uh um the
[1:24:09] emergency that there's a need for a
[1:24:12] helipad. So it' be at the end of this
[1:24:15] Arizona Avenue
[1:24:17] >> and because it's an ideal place to uh to
[1:24:20] service and it's an incredible location
[1:24:24] for events. Locally there's over 200
[1:24:27] auto clubs. Um there's 1.2 to 1.4 4
[1:24:32] million auto enthusiasts in um
[1:24:34] Minnesota, estimated 100,000 active
[1:24:37] ones, people like me that's like really
[1:24:40] into it. And um there's a lot of market
[1:24:45] here. Now, one of the things that I
[1:24:47] didn't bring up before, and this is
[1:24:48] something that Jeff Cheney of Cheney
[1:24:50] Performance and I were going to put
[1:24:52] together before the recession, we had a
[1:24:55] piece of land in uh East Bethl, is to
[1:24:59] have and and this isn't going to say
[1:25:00] that we're going to do this, but we're
[1:25:02] going to look into this. And that is to
[1:25:04] have a family restaurant that has shops.
[1:25:08] So, when you're eating, you could see
[1:25:10] cars getting customized and worked on.
[1:25:14] And this was a system that we were
[1:25:16] actually going to put together. And so
[1:25:19] while you're eating there, um, you
[1:25:21] could, uh, you know, do wheels, engines,
[1:25:25] customizing all this stuff in one shop
[1:25:28] spot that could be financable, which
[1:25:30] most don't have that. And, um,
[1:25:34] warrantied,
[1:25:35] so you can contract it and and have, you
[1:25:39] know, watch cars getting worked at like
[1:25:41] an immersive experience. and and the
[1:25:43] recession killed that.
[1:25:45] >> But um whether that is something that
[1:25:48] could fit into the clubhouse uh or it
[1:25:51] even works, but
[1:25:54] if we get approved tonight, then we're
[1:25:55] going to look into the feasibility of
[1:25:58] that. So, I just thought I would show
[1:25:59] that and that would be another reason to
[1:26:01] come out to Montros. I like that.
[1:26:03] >> No alcohol, family restaurant,
[1:26:05] >> good food. But uh and that that has not
[1:26:08] been done before, but we'll we'll look
[1:26:11] into revisiting that.
[1:26:14] Um this the autocross nationals uh had
[1:26:18] about 1,200 people last year,
[1:26:20] participants. Uh they had to rent a
[1:26:24] facility at an airport in Lincoln,
[1:26:26] Nebraska. I would think Montrose would
[1:26:29] be a good place to be put on the map for
[1:26:32] the nationals here.
[1:26:35] Um, tonight's approval, it just gets our
[1:26:38] engine started. It's, you know, the
[1:26:40] money starts rolling to hire the land
[1:26:43] surveyor to get a good survey. The civil
[1:26:46] engineering Andy gets rolling on that
[1:26:49] once we get the surveying and everything
[1:26:51] begins.
[1:26:52] um
[1:26:54] working with the Grip Steve Gripman to
[1:26:57] hone down what the PD is, the HOA, stuff
[1:27:00] like that. Uh I'll probably be working
[1:27:03] with them on that. Um,
[1:27:06] we'll have something that we can now go
[1:27:08] to with investors and secure the
[1:27:10] financing, get that rolling, start our
[1:27:13] marketing and outreach to, you know, get
[1:27:16] the word out and get this thing really
[1:27:19] kicked off and and then reach the the
[1:27:22] finish line. That's really what we're
[1:27:23] asking for tonight is the city's,
[1:27:27] you know, blessing to move forward
[1:27:30] and and so we could, you know, start
[1:27:33] running with this. And that's that's
[1:27:35] what I wanted to present. And um any
[1:27:39] questions? You know, I everybody's here
[1:27:41] tonight and you know,
[1:27:44] >> council, you have any questions?
[1:27:49] » I do not. I was there planning and
[1:27:50] zoning and I thank you guys for coming
[1:27:52] out that night and then all of you
[1:27:54] showing up tonight to support
[1:27:56] >> Oh,
[1:27:57] >> what you guys have going on here. We
[1:27:58] appreciate it.
[1:27:59] >> Super excited about this.
[1:28:02] >> Yeah. I mean, we've had numerous
[1:28:05] discussions. Jay, you and I talk
[1:28:07] probably what, twice a week.
[1:28:09] >> Yeah. I haven't talked to you for a
[1:28:11] couple days, but
[1:28:13] >> sure.
[1:28:14] >> Yeah, I know. I'm waiting on it.
[1:28:16] Temperatures are getting warm. My wife
[1:28:18] says it's been five minutes. You haven't
[1:28:20] had a phone call.
[1:28:23] » Um, no. I think I mean so far everything
[1:28:27] you guys have been great to work with. I
[1:28:29] mean I I love the idea. Um, I I do
[1:28:33] believe that this is going to put
[1:28:35] Mantros on the map for this. Um,
[1:28:40] you know, I I had discussions with the
[1:28:42] um Ray County
[1:28:45] Missy um
[1:28:46] >> economic development partnership.
[1:28:47] >> Thank you. It's a it's a mouthful to
[1:28:49] say, so I couldn't get it all couldn't
[1:28:50] get spit it all out. Um but we did have
[1:28:52] a discussion about this uh last week.
[1:28:55] >> Yep. And I've also talked to Clay
[1:28:57] Wilford at the county um the assistant
[1:28:59] county administrator was also interested
[1:29:01] in hearing one for sure.
[1:29:02] >> Yep. And so we had discussion about what
[1:29:04] kind of businesses we could see coming
[1:29:06] in here. Um, so I I think I mean I'm
[1:29:11] definitely excited about this. I know
[1:29:12] there's some others on this board that
[1:29:14] are excited about this project and you
[1:29:17] know you've got my blessing going
[1:29:19] forward here. So I mean if the council
[1:29:22] doesn't have any questions, I'd like to
[1:29:23] see a motion to approve the concept
[1:29:26] plan. And
[1:29:28] >> the the only thing I'll state is that I
[1:29:30] knew nothing about this stuff this type
[1:29:32] of an event and center. I spoke with a
[1:29:36] few people who I would have had no clue
[1:29:38] and they were like, "Oh yeah, it's
[1:29:40] amazing."
[1:29:41] >> I think they saw it in Chayan Hassen at
[1:29:43] a temporary location.
[1:29:44] >> It's amazing what the community is here.
[1:29:49] >> So I mean
[1:29:51] I've been informed.
[1:29:52] >> My wife wish I didn't have the sickness.
[1:29:54] Let me tell you,
[1:29:57] >> I've been informed now. So I have no
[1:29:59] further questions on it.
[1:30:01] >> Just to clarify, we don't need a motion.
[1:30:02] >> Don't need a motion. Just need a
[1:30:04] consensus to move forward.
[1:30:05] >> Perfect. Love it. Um I mean I've seen
[1:30:09] many of these autocross events and you
[1:30:11] know
[1:30:13] it's definitely it's not loud. I mean
[1:30:16] like you said 55 60 m an hour is the
[1:30:19] tops and it's literally you could have a
[1:30:21] Ferrari versus a Miata out there.
[1:30:23] >> Yeah.
[1:30:23] >> And everything's equal. Um,
[1:30:27] >> yeah, I think it's
[1:30:28] >> not really
[1:30:29] >> Well,
[1:30:30] >> I know what you're saying,
[1:30:30] >> but
[1:30:32] >> it really all depends on the driver. It
[1:30:34] doesn't have anything to do with the car
[1:30:36] at that moment in time. Um, one piece
[1:30:39] that I do like about it is we've had
[1:30:40] discussions about, you know, bringing in
[1:30:42] the school district and their behind the
[1:30:45] wheel training and using this area for,
[1:30:48] you know, winter driving and stuff like
[1:30:50] that. I mean, I have a daughter who's
[1:30:52] getting ready to get, you know, start
[1:30:53] the behind the wheel. Um, you know,
[1:30:55] there's a lot of people in town that are
[1:30:57] doing the same thing and you start
[1:30:59] thinking about how they react during,
[1:31:02] you know, snowstorms and stuff like
[1:31:04] that. I mean,
[1:31:06] having a wide open area like this
[1:31:08] without,
[1:31:10] you know, worrying about hitting
[1:31:11] anything, I think is just a great
[1:31:13] training tool that we can, you mean,
[1:31:15] certainly utilize, utilize, that was, a tough word for me. Um, yeah.
[1:31:21] And I think as long as we have
[1:31:23] consensus, I think we can
[1:31:25] give you the thumbs up here. And
[1:31:28] >> that just means I got to talk to Jay
[1:31:29] more,
[1:31:31] >> which I love, Jay.
[1:31:33] >> Well, I intend.
[1:31:40] » You have never had a big long story.
[1:31:44] >> And Jay sucked me in like
[1:31:46] >> Yeah. I don't know what he he does, but
[1:31:49] he does. You know, the passion.
[1:31:52] >> All right. All right. So,
[1:31:55] >> everyone agrees.
[1:31:56] >> Yeah. I say go for it.
[1:31:58] >> Yes. Thank you.
[1:31:59] >> There you go.
[1:32:00] >> Off and running.
[1:32:02] >> Thank you.
[1:32:03] very much.
[1:32:08] » Excellent presentation as always, too,
[1:32:10] by the way.
[1:32:11] >> Thank you.
[1:32:11] >> Next time we'll try to get some VR stuff
[1:32:13] going on.
[1:32:14] >> Oh, boy. Here we go. Long story and I'll
[1:32:17] be short.
[1:32:18] >> Yeah. Okay.
[1:32:19] >> This will keep the crazies with the
[1:32:21] redness moments off of the street.
[1:32:24] >> Exactly.
[1:32:24] >> And I have to admit I've been one of
[1:32:27] >> I may have too
[1:32:28] >> kids and they were actually in the cars
[1:32:31] when I was street racing. So
[1:32:34] >> you're not supposed to say that. Right.
[1:32:35] Counties right here.
[1:32:41] » Anybody can go fast in a straight line.
[1:32:44] put some terms in and see what you
[1:32:46] >> Exactly.
[1:32:46] >> That's how I got into that.
[1:32:48] >> Yep. Exactly.
[1:32:49] >> And every kid should try it at least
[1:32:52] once.
[1:32:52] >> I totally agree.
[1:32:54] >> I'm going to try.
[1:32:58] » All right. Moving along. Thank you very
[1:33:01] much. Uh moving along. Open form. Um
[1:33:04] we'll start with Kayla McCcluskey
[1:33:07] talking about Clementa.
[1:33:11] » Yeah.
[1:33:12] >> Hi guys.
[1:33:13] >> Hey. Hi.
[1:33:14] >> Um, I am here tonight just as a followup
[1:33:16] for our previous conversation with
[1:33:18] Mary'sville Township, uh, regarding
[1:33:19] Clement Avenue. I know I've spoken with
[1:33:21] a couple of you already. Um, there's a
[1:33:23] few other probably concerned people here
[1:33:25] as well. Um, and I guess what I'm asking
[1:33:27] for is just kind of an update as to what
[1:33:29] you guys have done since that meeting,
[1:33:31] what has been discussed, what kind of
[1:33:33] the next steps or plans are in meeting
[1:33:35] with Mary'sville or with the county or
[1:33:38] wherever you guys are
[1:33:40] >> talking about applying it. So that that
[1:33:42] day that we had the meeting at
[1:33:44] Mary'sville, David, I Jackie,
[1:33:48] Commissioner Moya, Commissioner Dietrich
[1:33:50] met with Wright County to kind of
[1:33:52] discuss what's going on out there. Um I
[1:33:56] think we kind of maybe opened Ray
[1:33:58] County's eyes a little bit more as to
[1:34:01] kind of the need to keep said portion of
[1:34:06] the road open. Um, we also
[1:34:09] David talked with one of the board
[1:34:11] members this afternoon. Um, I think
[1:34:15] we're all in agreement that we need to
[1:34:17] sit down and kind of have a kind of a
[1:34:20] workshop on what kind of cost sharing
[1:34:24] would look like going forward. Um, you
[1:34:27] know, obviously we were disappointed
[1:34:29] that they, you know, decided not to go
[1:34:31] for the local road improvement grant.
[1:34:34] Um, you know, and then again, they their
[1:34:37] idea of cost sharing was just sending us
[1:34:39] an itemized bill for $5,200 for, you
[1:34:42] know, second quarter maintenance, which
[1:34:45] didn't quite sit well with us. You know,
[1:34:47] we expected some kind of dialogue on,
[1:34:49] you know, a percentage, not just, you
[1:34:51] know, a number. But those conversations
[1:34:53] are moving forward. Um, I do plan to
[1:34:56] reach out to, um, board member Hickman
[1:35:00] so we can set up some sort of, uh,
[1:35:02] meeting. Um, you know, just kind of a
[1:35:05] couple of us here and one of them and
[1:35:08] just kind of hash it out. And
[1:35:10] >> so, we're just kind of waiting at this
[1:35:11] point to get a meeting with them to
[1:35:12] discuss kind of some other options.
[1:35:14] >> Um, in regards to the grant, I know that
[1:35:17] kind of one of their ar other arguments
[1:35:18] was that they don't know, you know, in
[1:35:20] applying for that grant, what the
[1:35:21] maintenance is going to require even if
[1:35:23] we they we were to get that grant and
[1:35:25] pave that part of the road. Is there any
[1:35:28] have you guys thought any more about any
[1:35:30] >> Yeah, I mean,
[1:35:31] >> different guidance on that. It's it's
[1:35:33] really been no secret that Mary'sville
[1:35:36] really doesn't want that section of the
[1:35:37] road. They've been trying to get us to
[1:35:39] take it over for ever. Um, you know, the
[1:35:42] problem there is that we don't have the
[1:35:44] equipment to maintain that. Um, I don't
[1:35:46] see us purchasing a greater just to
[1:35:49] handle that,
[1:35:50] >> you know, section of road and yeah, it
[1:35:52] doesn't seem like a good use of taxpayer
[1:35:55] money. Um, but I mean, at least from my
[1:36:00] point of view, if we can get to that
[1:36:01] point where it is paved and everything,
[1:36:04] I mean, I don't see a reason why we
[1:36:06] wouldn't take over that section of the
[1:36:08] road, but, you know, that's obviously
[1:36:09] something that would have to come along
[1:36:11] further in discussions.
[1:36:12] >> Okay. Um, and then I'm just hoping that
[1:36:15] we can kind of keep the dialogue going
[1:36:17] with with our residents, too, because I
[1:36:19] feel like, you know, I've been living
[1:36:20] there for 10 years and we've always
[1:36:21] known it was a problem road. It's, you
[1:36:23] know, it's always needing to be graded
[1:36:24] and we know it's not really the the
[1:36:26] responsibility of the city. Although
[1:36:28] calling on Mary'sville all the time to
[1:36:30] get out there and grade it doesn't feel
[1:36:31] right either considering, you know, 90%
[1:36:33] of the people on that road are paying
[1:36:34] taxes in Montrose and not to Mary'sville
[1:36:36] Township,
[1:36:36] >> right?
[1:36:37] >> So, just if there we could have some
[1:36:39] transparency in what's happening when
[1:36:41] the meeting I mean we don't need a
[1:36:42] playbyplay by any means, but it would be
[1:36:44] nice rather than letting it kind of fall
[1:36:46] to the wayside which I feel like I mean
[1:36:47] it's been at least 10 years it's been
[1:36:49] going on so it hasn't been
[1:36:51] >> Yeah. you know, and it's I mean, it's
[1:36:53] really been kind of a a rushed
[1:36:55] situation. I mean, I got word winded
[1:36:58] that they were going to shut it down,
[1:36:59] but yeah, that's kind of what July
[1:37:01] >> threw everything into motion. I think
[1:37:02] everyone is like, "Oh my goodness."
[1:37:03] >> They never reached out to the city to
[1:37:05] say, "Hey, this is what our plan is."
[1:37:07] They were just going to prove shutting
[1:37:09] it off without telling us and just
[1:37:11] basically say, "Okay, now you have to
[1:37:12] pay to put up a sign that says it's
[1:37:14] just, you know, no through street." And,
[1:37:17] you know, that really kind of didn't sit
[1:37:19] well with us. you know, I mean, there's
[1:37:21] two roads heading north and south out of
[1:37:23] Montrose, and that's one of them.
[1:37:25] >> Have they uh kind of indicated you guys
[1:37:28] that they're kind of backing off on that
[1:37:29] right now until something can be
[1:37:31] >> That's agreed upon, or are they ready to
[1:37:34] go in there and put something up?
[1:37:35] >> I mean, that's kind of the indication
[1:37:36] that we've pushed to them that, hey,
[1:37:39] let's continue this conversation. I
[1:37:41] don't think there's a need to rush to
[1:37:43] close it at this moment in time, you
[1:37:45] know, and I mean, again, that's going to
[1:37:47] be on them, though, to decide what they
[1:37:49] want. county say about them like
[1:37:51] threatening to close the road? Did they
[1:37:53] say that that I mean, can they can they
[1:37:55] do that?
[1:37:55] >> Mhm.
[1:37:56] >> Okay.
[1:37:57] >> Yep.
[1:37:57] >> So, they could at any on any day we
[1:38:00] could show up and it could just be
[1:38:01] closed out.
[1:38:02] >> Yep.
[1:38:02] >> Okay.
[1:38:03] >> Unfortunately, you know, and the
[1:38:04] conversations we've had with the county
[1:38:05] is, you know, at this point they
[1:38:08] literally said they have no use for the
[1:38:10] road. So, you know, which still just
[1:38:13] blows my mind. They've got, you know,
[1:38:14] 110 south of 12, you know, that goes all
[1:38:17] the way down. So what's the difference
[1:38:19] between two mile stretch here? You know,
[1:38:21] why can't you know you do that there? So
[1:38:24] there's ongoing conversations about
[1:38:26] similar things that, you know, we can
[1:38:28] work with the county on um to try to get
[1:38:32] some other things going, but you know,
[1:38:34] >> yeah,
[1:38:36] >> it's a battle update. I just hope that
[1:38:37] maybe at the next meeting if we could
[1:38:39] just if you guys could just include like
[1:38:40] a quick update as to how meeting
[1:38:43] >> if there's anything if there's anything
[1:38:44] to update. Yes. Yeah.
[1:38:46] >> And you can always reach out to me,
[1:38:47] Kayla. you know that you know come over
[1:38:50] knock on my door and yell at me I don't
[1:38:51] care you know let's yell at you
[1:38:53] >> yeah I know it's all good so but yeah
[1:38:55] reach out to me and you know I will try
[1:38:57] to keep you guys updated as possible you
[1:38:58] know anything that comes along it's just
[1:39:01] >> you know
[1:39:01] >> yeah I think some of us are just a
[1:39:02] little bit of a panic mode with our
[1:39:04] daily drive you know every day
[1:39:07] >> and you know and not just residents I
[1:39:09] mean emergency vehicles too and there's
[1:39:12] a lot of things hinging on this and
[1:39:14] >> yeah stuff that was brought up at the
[1:39:15] >> Yep township meeting was important It's
[1:39:17] correct. So
[1:39:18] >> hopefully we can keep that going.
[1:39:19] >> Yeah.
[1:39:19] >> All right. Thank you.
[1:39:21] >> Thanks.
[1:39:23] >> Anyone else want to speak on Clementa?
[1:39:26] >> I do. Um I'm Robert Kolki, 602 First
[1:39:28] Street North in Montrose. And I just
[1:39:31] kind of wanted to to to kind of repeat
[1:39:33] what she said because of course I live
[1:39:35] on the northwest corner of Montro.
[1:39:37] >> And you know, the dirt road is in bad
[1:39:40] shape. And I think the bottom line is I
[1:39:44] think we have a lot more people here.
[1:39:46] So, when it does start to get to the
[1:39:48] negotiation phase, I can think it'd be
[1:39:50] reasonable that we kind of take take
[1:39:52] most of the cost. And I know I'm a
[1:39:55] resident and I'm going to pay for part
[1:39:56] of it, too. But fact that we have almost
[1:39:58] 4,000 people and we have a dirt just a crappy dirt road that's a major
[1:40:04] artery to the north. Um cuz the second
[1:40:08] point I wanted to to bring up is
[1:40:11] 602 First Street North is where I live
[1:40:13] and there are people that regularly go
[1:40:15] by my house at 50 m an hour. I mean it's
[1:40:19] ridiculous, you know, and we're on a
[1:40:21] curve, you know, so when we back out,
[1:40:25] it's just the margin for error is just
[1:40:27] crazy. And anything to make that worse
[1:40:31] >> would just drive us nuts. So the second
[1:40:34] point is it kind of piggybacks off the
[1:40:37] Clementa issue is the speeds that are in
[1:40:40] the kind of the edges of town like kind
[1:40:42] of where I live are getting ridiculous
[1:40:44] and I think that we just need to realize
[1:40:46] that and that we haven't had an accident
[1:40:49] but we have teenage someone was talking
[1:40:51] about teenage drivers we have some of
[1:40:53] those too and just the margins for
[1:40:55] errors that we have is just so low and
[1:40:57] so the point is just the speeds that are that are you know, being
[1:41:03] utilized around the city streets. Yep.
[1:41:05] >> So,
[1:41:06] >> you know, and that's part of our my at
[1:41:09] least my whole thing with shutting off
[1:41:11] Clementa is Yes. Now, all that traffic
[1:41:13] is going to route down first and you
[1:41:16] know, like you mentioned, I mean, we're
[1:41:17] going to get more cars going down there
[1:41:19] and obviously you just sit on Clementa
[1:41:22] and you can see people don't recognize
[1:41:25] the 30 mph speed limit. So, you know,
[1:41:27] they're going to come speeding through
[1:41:28] there. Um, and you know, just
[1:41:30] maintenance overall. I mean, you put
[1:41:33] that many cars back down first and then,
[1:41:35] you know, what's that road going to look
[1:41:37] like?
[1:41:38] >> Yeah. I think you'll have to add stop
[1:41:39] signs, too. It gets even worse. You
[1:41:41] know, you're going to have to do
[1:41:42] something like that and then it t just
[1:41:44] takes forever to get from point.
[1:41:47] >> Yeah. So, there I mean, it's not just,
[1:41:49] you know, the residents that live in
[1:41:51] Whitetail and Forest Creek that use that
[1:41:54] section of the road. We understand that
[1:41:55] it's, you know, all residents. It's, you
[1:41:58] know, people from Woodland. I mean, when
[1:42:00] I go that way, I see more cars coming
[1:42:02] south than going north. I mean, you got
[1:42:04] XL coming down there, too. So, I mean,
[1:42:07] there's a lot of use on that road. And,
[1:42:09] you know, that's kind of what we're
[1:42:10] trying to avoid getting that shut down.
[1:42:13] So,
[1:42:13] >> all right. Thanks. Thanks for your time.
[1:42:15] >> Thank you.
[1:42:16] >> You
[1:42:18] >> anyone else?
[1:42:21] >> I just have a question.
[1:42:23] >> Of course.
[1:42:26] >> At least you owned it.
[1:42:27] >> What?
[1:42:27] >> At least you owned it. I know every time. Um, so you guys are we
[1:42:32] understand that nobody wants to close
[1:42:33] Comment. We get that. But at what cost
[1:42:36] do the citizens of Montro want to pay to
[1:42:38] keep that road open
[1:42:40] >> because how much it would cost?
[1:42:42] >> Well, right now, so we're from Highway
[1:42:44] 12 to the dirt. Okay. So, what Forest
[1:42:47] Creek area and we're taking care of that
[1:42:49] road in 2027 at around 2.2 million.
[1:42:53] That's on the city of Montro. So, do we
[1:42:55] have that money to also maintain
[1:42:59] the dirt part of it? I mean, how much do
[1:43:01] we want to put in
[1:43:02] >> is the 2.2 million the rebuild
[1:43:05] >> estimate? Yes.
[1:43:06] >> Yep.
[1:43:08] >> I mean, I we we I know it's going to
[1:43:10] cost us all, including me, a lot of
[1:43:12] money. But I think we got it put most of
[1:43:15] it in. I mean, how many people live
[1:43:17] there? Six on that dirt road. Six.
[1:43:19] Seven.
[1:43:20] >> There's five.
[1:43:21] >> Five.
[1:43:22] houses. Five houses. I think at
[1:43:25] this point keeping it dirt fine like we
[1:43:27] can take that loss but but we're closing
[1:43:30] off and right I don't think why how is
[1:43:34] that even how's the cops going to get to
[1:43:36] us that adds and peace.