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one of I don't know I got to get on with

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this thing without getting too deep but

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there was one of the sheriff deputies

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that took the training program cost

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$2,400 officers

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And so I'm curious to know what those

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trainings consist of that cost that kind

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of money. We should have some sort of an

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explanation.

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I I guess the real one

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you'll hear is

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me at least.

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There's a jail mandates jail maintenance

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in detention painting

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for $119,000.

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Now I'm sitting there thinking we have a

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maintenance department.

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Surely some of those folks are capable

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of painting.

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$119,000

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sounds like a lie. Somebody needs to

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explain that stuff to me.

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Maybe nobody else is in with that, but I

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am. I looked at this stuff and I'm

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curious to know why you see some of

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these numbers but nobody's around to say

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hey here's the reason for that.

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So how how do we handle that situation?

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I don't know. You just say well we're

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not paying unless you explain can't do

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that. That's not fair.

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But I think it's fine for some of our

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department heads

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to take responsibility on some of this

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stuff. We're the ones ultimately that

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say, "Yeah, it's okay." And nobody's

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here to to

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answer the questions.

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So, I don't know. It It's just It's just

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mindboggling that some of this stuff is

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going on and has went on for years.

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Takes time to get a hold of it. I'm on

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the internet. I believe down downturn in

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revenues. This kind of stuff just can't

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continue.

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So that's my speech.

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So do you know how many credit cards did

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you all issue them there in clerk's

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office or who they issued the cards?

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>> Yes, we issued them from our office. I

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believe there's 17.

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>> That's all you put out? 17 cards.

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one for each department.

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So my second question is so Doug Blake's

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here might be able to tell tell us where

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they you know

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>> yeah they redid all

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>> stand up yet so green hall maintenance

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uh they did a redid all the pod and that

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was something that the jail did never it

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was their project that they came up with

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their

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maintenance was not involved and they

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stripped that all the

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the way back down to original structure

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and then they reprimedimed and the whole

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thing and that still took then and then

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and that was almost six seven weeks that

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it took to do that with [clears throat]

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I don't know the painting crew had seven

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people and the sand blasting crew had

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four people. So what is that 9,000 hours

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man hours of labor where that's way out

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of that would take our whole entire

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department two months to do and you

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would be able to go do anything else or

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follow the other people that have a

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disaster every day and we were not

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involved in it. It was something that

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the jail and the sheriff did on their

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Thanks. Okay.

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how's how's Andre? Doing better. He's

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walking. He says his leg feels a lot

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better. Thanks. He was going to try to

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come over, but

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stay here all day.

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So, Commissioner Stevens,

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I along with others on the board, do you

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go through accounts payable? Yes.

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And one of the issues that come in is

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at this point in time the work has

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already been done and the items have

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typically been purchased or procured

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and they have made a commitment to pay.

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I've notated the questions that you have

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that are open questions

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in that regard. Are there items on table

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that you don't want to pay and the

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information on the ultimate.

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paid. I'm just I'm just questioning the

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fact

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the detention center and we have we have

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a maintenance.

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» So I don't see a representative from the

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SO here. So at the next meeting I'd ask

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that sheriff's department be put on the

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agenda for explanation of that meeting

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that is

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>> yeah yeah that's fine all I all I'm

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asking for is an explanation why like in

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the radios for instance they're all

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parish radio according to what I've seen

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here why the big difference I'm sure

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there must be some special I don't even

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radio I don't know but it would help

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if it was in the budget. Probably was,

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but we didn't.

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>> Yeah. And then, you know, whether we are

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taking bids on this big project any

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two cents worth. Okay. So, we'll go

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ahead and insert that on the agenda as

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far as questions if we can. In addition,

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uh we'd like to have the departments

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that purchase the radios come forward at

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the next meeting so we can fully have

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the transpire

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that acceptable.

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>> That's fine.

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so with that being said placed on the

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next agenda we go back to account

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payable goal of 1,340,85284

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other further discussion on this

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accounts payable 3402

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Thank you. Is [clears throat] there a

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second?

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Have a motion and a second. All

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in favor?

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Billy P, please.

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got [clears throat] an activity

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pretty much all roads open needed open

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about a month ahead

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still want to get that slush and put

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snow on them off to dry it out. moment

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lot of issues. We just kind of clean up

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some stuff out there, brought in little

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material, make it

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walking in the land and stuff. Probably

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get down out there and do some more

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approach. last year. We'll put that

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pipeline in to kind of mess up the drive

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going in there. So, finishing that up

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should be out of there.

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place all the cattle bars out there on

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dry pining. There's some wor out. So,

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I'm going to try to get that done before

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it gets more busy. I've got a drainage

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issue at the golf course. So, I'm going

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try to get that done.

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let's kind of branches up too right now

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still with this land where there is

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still blows I got a blade I'm sure up

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there almost every day um

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other than that you guys questions on my

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large creek.

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I don't know if a lot of you guys

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remember here a few years ago. You know,

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um from where ours

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been to the for a mile of road.

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that echo since Bob Herorth signed. So,

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um that part of the road was really bad.

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they're going to do cell and stuff up

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there. So, they're trying to get right

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now on this half of the road. Bob her is

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the other half. We never could get that

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agreement

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done. Um

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talked to Bob Hering yesterday. Um the

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force service guys been on me so I sent

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him to Bob because it's kind of up to

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them you know um

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Bob's good with their agreement. Nobody

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can get a hold of so the forest service

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I left it in their part to try to work

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I guess my question is um Bob would

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rather the county have them easement

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through there than the forest service.

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little bit because it's like pretty much

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undrivable. It's like side by side and

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um so you know because I have no for us

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to rebuild that part of that mile roads

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you know I have to haul everything to

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pretty much and I start building the

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only pit that's close there's a pit

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right down there off of the barge creek

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that Keith Hughes owns but he's pretty

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much took all the material down for the

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power plant down in Kimry so I'd have to

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haul all that out of dry plant so you

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but it costs quite a bit to rebuild that

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part of the road. So, the Forest Service

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said that I said, you know,

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work. Um, but I do know there's some

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gravel pits on LeBard. So,

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>> how do you do it? You know, it' be my

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recommendation to the commissioners that

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>> we're even if you guys even want these,

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unless you just want the forest service,

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but I think the land owners are going to

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want the county to have it.

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>> For service. So my thing was is I my

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recommendation is you know the only way

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we going to do the take the easement is

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if they supply the gravel because there

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is gravel pits up there that would say

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you know couple hundred,000 in trucking

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so anyway but I don't know if you guys

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even want to mess with it. So that's I

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told him I would ask today and move

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forward.

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So Billy uh can't do anything till the

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Eckles gives in.

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>> Yeah, because Eckles the way that

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easement is, it's like it's like they

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both own half the road,

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>> right?

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>> Bob, I talked to him the other day. Like

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you said, he'd rather the county have

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the easement.

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>> I mean, back in the day, you know, we

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thought it was all going to go and we

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built the fence. So, it's been fenced

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that extra mile cuz we jumped the gun on

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that. But, um, you know, that last mile

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of road is bad shape,

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>> but there's not much we can do though.

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>> There's nothing we can do till I mean,

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Bob said he was signed to the county. He

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don't know if he'll sign for the forest

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service. He likes the idea of the

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logging and stuff, but um he said he's

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up and you know they'd have to really

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talk to him to get it done. He he signed

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with us that far right now, but we the

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last time we had

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it's really hard to get in touch with

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them people.

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they got to go through like all these

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attorneys and and stuff and um so

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honestly leaving that up to the forest

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service but I know if they do I I guess

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my question is is if you guys even want

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the easement or if you want me to say no

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forest service it's on you guys

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pursuing sounds like quite a

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nonre

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to see something happen there if we can.

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>> I have no problem doing anything. Like I

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said, I I would like to the Forest

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Service to pull me up the gravel, you

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know, because there's

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>> and that's basically this there's just

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big there's no road. It's just big holes

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and everything. So, it's going to take a

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lot of native pit road, you know, to get

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it

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>> and get some drainage and stuff. And

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they have pits up there and I I I you

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know, I've been in contact with them and

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they they say they'll you know, they're good with that.

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>> You know, we'll see.

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» Do you bring an estimated cost of that

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place?

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>> Well, like I said, the gravel was up

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there. I mean it to get it to get it up

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to you know where you can use them with

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the vehicle you it you know if they

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supply the gravel probably be

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you know around 125,000

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you know that's what I just estimated

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but other I mean 100,000 just

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such you know it's a long ways it's be

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like 34 miles one way

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So Billy, Mr. Chairman. So Billy, this

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you would do yourself. You done hire?

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>> Well, I would have to if because it it

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take if we have to haul it out of our

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pit. I might try Ping the heroin pit.

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>> I'd have to hire trucks. Yeah. Because

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it it just take it take us three years

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to be able to grow up there. But there's

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I like I said I

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my opinion

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I wouldn't do it I wouldn't even do it

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unless the for surface let us use one of

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them pits one of them old gravel pits up

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there

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the gravel

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>> well it's just it's just native I mean

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just to get you won't have to do nothing

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it's it's nice stuff

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um

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>> you know then that would that would then

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I wouldn't hire nobody. We could just do

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it. The big thing just time that Miles

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hauling it all the way, you know.

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So without the

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without E signing off, there's no way to

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do it.

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>> There's no way to do it. So that for

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service is trying to work it. I mean,

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they're even talking domain, you know,

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and I I wasn't really for that. Um, but

349
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I just think I do think I do.

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But I just I hope for some see if you

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guys were

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even

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you know okay if they do if all this

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comes through they'd be the invest

355
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Orange.

356
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>> Yeah. Yeah. And then where where the

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county stops

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there's that mile to the forest service

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and it's it's like almost undrivable. I

360
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mean

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um they can't take horse trailers or

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campers or anything spot. You know,

363
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where we stop it be more or less that

364
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bad trains

365
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is a huge safety concern.

366
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>> Oh yeah. From fire you access it

367
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but there there you know and I kind of

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think the forest service because there's

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no way I mean there's we

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you know we didn't get that far in the

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conversation but there's no way you're

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going to get lo trucks up there. So

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they're going to have to they're going

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to have to do some work on the on the

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road to even get log trucks on it. So

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they're you know they're going to have

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to do something. So

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chairman

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just so everybody knows I'm not at all

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against it. Steve Hoffman would probably

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give everyone us a hug, you know, if we

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did this, but the last time we took over

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roads got roasted. Okay. So, you know, I

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mean, I think we have put a little

385
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thought into this

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for a couple meetings or or what's

387
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>> it take I mean I guess I mean it's going

388
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to take a while back. I just he was just

389
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wanted to know if um cuz like Bob Bob's

390
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hold kind of tough with letting the

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Forest Service have the easement. He'd

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rather sign it over to us. So, I guess

393
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we're just trying to figure out what

394
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angle we need to try to work forward to.

395
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So, if the foreign service was to get

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over Monday, would the county have a

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total easement or is it still going to

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be a shared deal? you know that if

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Eckles and Har were signing over to the

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county, it would be our ement to and

401
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then, you know, we'd have it would tie

402
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in off of our other ement

403
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on to to the force.

404
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Okay. So, explain.

405
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Okay, I'm kidding. the movement.

406
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>> Um,

407
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they

408
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back in the day when we first started

409
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doing this, there was some they went up

410
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the Forest Service had done some, you

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know, still motorized vehicles and stuff

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and um

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kind of blocked some of the areas they

414
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used to like drive on and stuff up

415
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there. And so it was kind of kind of a

416
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not they were kind of feuding with the

417
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forcers hero organicles and so

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that we never could get that holes hung

419
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with Bob. They were like, "Yeah, you

420
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know, unless Forest Service back in the

421
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day, Bob would sign it over and Edles

422
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would sign it over to the county user

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service use it." Well, we couldn't do

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that. So, that's it just kept it just

425
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kept going back and forth like that. And

426
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then Eckles has said, "I I ain't signing

427
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any anyone."

428
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So, and then Bob was like, "No, I'm

429
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done." So, it's just been a lot of years

430
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now. And now Bob Bob's like, I you know,

431
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he says, I think the county should have

432
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that extra, you know, that last mile.

433
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He's still not crazy about the Forest

434
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Service, but he likes the idea of going

435
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up there and logging and doing that

436
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stuff. And he he really

437
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said to me, you know, he wants the

438
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public to be able to, you know, get up

439
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there. that part of the road is so bad

440
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that you know it's it's kind of

441
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unpassable unless you side by side.

442
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So he's kind of I think everybody's kind

443
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of calm down. It's just really hard to

444
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000
get a hold of. Um you got to you got to

445
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call his attorney and and you never talk

446
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to

447
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family. You got to go through all their

448
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people.

449
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But the forest service, I guess what

450
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they were want to know is that how they

451
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what their next step is that the county

452
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will um be willing to take the easement.

453
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They'll try to give,

454
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you know, get e to come to us and sign.

455
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Um and then but then you know we'll be stuck with the maintenance on

456
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the road you know once it's

457
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proposed time to revisit this building

458
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>> I it's going to take but it'll take the

459
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forest service. I think it's quite you

460
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know probably a few weeks a month

461
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probably here for eles that's normally

462
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the time frame there.

463
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>> I can just keep you up you know informed

464
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you know and we can make that decision.

465
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>> Sounds good. Thank you.

466
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>> Okay.

467
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Um,

468
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other than that, um, I know Eric's got

469
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some updates and stuff. I was just

470
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curious. We're doing everything. Um, I

471
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know the bike path things come up. So, I

472
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just wanted you you [clears throat] guys

473
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want us to work on I mean, I did the

474
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temporary fixes. I don't know how long

475
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that'll last. Um, I don't know if you

476
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want us to put numbers together and try

477
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to, you know, fit it in with our chip

478
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seal stuff, you know, because I was

479
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planning on using the gas tax for the

480
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some of that money to use chip sailing

481
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and that and maybe we can put that in

482
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,360
with that. But I just was going to get

483
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some what you guys think.

484
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,039
taking some really good pictures and

485
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grab blank bats around the state to show

486
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,799
you these states.

487
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:19,039
>> Yeah.

488
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I've seen some really nice rotoill

489
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ones and stuff like we that one we did

490
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that we tore out and did, you know, they turn out not bad. Um,

491
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[laughter]

492
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you know,

493
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>> so is it still in the cards that we

494
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:38,559
fixing then gave them to the town? Is

495
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that

496
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>> Yes. Yes.

497
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And Clayton could probably talk about

498
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,720
that a little bit. I know I know you got

499
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,880
all the agreements. It's just we just

500
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got to get them up to par, right? Yeah.

501
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:55,440
If uh Mr. Chairman, um

502
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,640
Billy, as I recall, I think these guys

503
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looked at it last fall and said, "We

504
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,520
don't want to spend the money." It was

505
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,480
like a million bucks.

506
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,679
>> Yeah,

507
00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:05,200
>> I think that was what it was. It's about

508
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,559
a million bucks to bring all that stuff

509
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,880
up if I'm not if I'm remembering

510
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,480
correctly. And that that was a couple

511
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years ago. So it's probably Mike it's

512
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probably a little more

513
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but it's all

514
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,240
>> but once we get them up then the town

515
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480
will take theirs more will take theirs

516
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,760
big pine and then then we're we're done

517
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,320
with just the voice count.

518
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,720
I said if you want us to I know budget's

519
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,159
coming. I didn't know if you want us to

520
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,720
try to put numbers together.

521
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,799
Um because

522
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:44,400
there is some the stuff I did, you know,

523
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,919
it'll it'll last a little while, but I

524
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:55,590
don't have the same.

525
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,679
I think last year we we spoke about

526
00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:01,039
continuing moving forward on it,

527
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:02,799
made that representation to a number of

528
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,520
people. So be prudent to get some cost

529
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,159
and say okay

530
00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:08,960
it

531
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600
>> okay or not

532
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:24,470
good dealates

533
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,120
just got some uh project updates starts

534
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,390
out

535
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,760
pulling out the old fence so they're

536
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,720
probably

537
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,559
remove the old bridge, get the piles out

538
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:36,159
so they can start excavating and start

539
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,640
installing that block. Hopefully the

540
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,159
roads only closed for a couple weeks,

541
00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:42,799
but picked a good week to start. So, we

542
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,400
should get done before they want to turn

543
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,279
the water on. So, off to a good start on

544
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,760
that two days in, but no problems yet.

545
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,200
And then I sent you guys the quick

546
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,120
design that I done on rear and draw so

547
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,840
far. So, I'm still working on that one.

548
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,279
I finally got back to the supplier. The

549
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,240
way I designed it was to match the cover

550
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000
that we had. So, we had to go with the

551
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,919
thicker plates. And since that structure

552
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:10,080
is so big,

553
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,880
just delivered it was $200,000 for that

554
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360
structure. But if we go to the thinner

555
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,440
plates and put three and a half ft of

556
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080
cover over the structure down to

557
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,760
159,000. So, that's the design going to

558
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,679
import more crutch base and ramp the

559
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:29,919
road over that box over. So, I'll get

560
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:32,000
those plans ready. We probably won't

561
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,760
we'll bid it and then have construction

562
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,600
after November. So, this year's

563
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:44,950
off, replace that possibly.

564
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,919
» I see you got it designed for like a 6'1

565
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:49,520
clearance underneath.

566
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,880
>> Is that going to be enough to get in

567
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520
there and clean the stuff out? Uh, I

568
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,520
just tried to match what the excavation

569
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,360
that we did or what the how they cut it

570
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,279
out to where it is now. If we go bigger,

571
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:02,720
those costs are going to go up. So,

572
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,320
that's that's kind of what I did was

573
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880
match what's there. It's cuz it it's so

574
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,600
flat that it will silt in,

575
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,399
but maybe a back truck can clean it out

576
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,240
a little bit easier. You get the center

577
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,240
and you can work in it. But yeah, that's

578
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,039
kind of so the gravel plate or floor

579
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,640
you've got under it, that's what's

580
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960
required. You could of course see CM

581
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,279
under that or just

582
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,279
>> I mean that would be more expensive.

583
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,679
These pre-made plates that they come

584
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,600
with the usually it's the cheapest

585
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,000
option they have. You can do footers

586
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,760
where it's empty in between and then you

587
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360
can cut in between. But then if there

588
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,279
ever is scour it undercuts those

589
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,360
foundations and you got to fix that. So

590
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,720
that's kind of why we usually do the

591
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:51,190
full full box.

592
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,799
Okay. And then the other thing is uh

593
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,279
when I get reared and done, I'll start

594
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,919
design on the uh cattle project. So I

595
00:28:57,919 --> 00:28:59,120
just wanted to make sure that we still

596
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,720
wanted to go ahead with that. The four

597
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,039
we were looking at

598
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,080
was the industrial site, Pindel South,

599
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Half Moon, and White Pine.

600
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,399
So those were the four we were looking

601
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:13,520
at getting done this year.

602
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,720
Talk about doing these in house.

603
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,960
change. Uh, we had mentioned we had

604
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
mentioned that I could look into what it

605
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
would cost to be have it'd be a separate

606
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,600
project to have Adams or somebody

607
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600
pre-cast them and then have them on

608
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000
supply, but same time when the county

609
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,279
goes to do it, they'd have to rent a

610
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:32,880
crane and schedule them. But I can

611
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,480
certainly

612
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,279
get prices on what it would cost for

613
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,039
Adams to pre-cast them and then get with

614
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,080
Billy to see what the feasibility is on.

615
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Personally, I think it's worth looking

616
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760
at after this last debacle out here and

617
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,760
the cost of those things. Let's see what

618
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760
it cost in the house for pre-cast.

619
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,600
>> Yeah. Every year, the last two years,

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
they've been about 350,000. So, this

621
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,360
round would probably be around that

622
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520
400,000 because they're a little bigger

623
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
for the half moon and white pine. We're

624
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,799
going to have to put detours in because

625
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,279
there's no way around

626
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,440
on those. So, that's kind of what we're

627
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,360
looking at.

628
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,240
But I can I can put numbers together to

629
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,200
see what uh just getting those

630
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440
foundations poured and delivered would

631
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,679
cost and come back with you on that.

632
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:20,240
>> Okay,

633
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480
>> Mr. Chairman. So, where's the one at

634
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,600
White Pine?

635
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,440
>> Just before White Pine. It's on the main

636
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,080
top.

637
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,760
>> Yeah. Yeah.

638
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,200
>> So, is that even necessary?

639
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,360
I mean, where they're not keeping cattle

640
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,200
up there anymore?

641
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Uh I know when we did the project we

642
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,279
asked the forest service to pull a

643
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:40,720
couple of those and they said we had to

644
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,720
keep them. So but then that was a

645
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,799
federal project that so I think we need

646
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,320
double check on that because that's

647
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,840
absolutely doing nothing you know and

648
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,600
there's no fences. There's nothing out

649
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,559
there that I mean cattle is doing no

650
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:56,960
good because they go around if there was

651
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,480
something up there. So I mean

652
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,679
I can certainly reach out to him since

653
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:06,320
he was there maybe 50 years ago they

654
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,039
grazed up there or something but I think

655
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:10,399
that was very

656
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,240
>> I know when we did the bottom the first

657
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,480
portion of the skyline thought that fire

658
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,840
had gone through and the fences were

659
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,520
burned down and they they made us put it

660
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,000
in anyway and they put the fences back

661
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,120
>> but there's blow there. It's a different

662
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760
deal. So, I don't know. I've always

663
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,760
wondered why the cavard's even there.

664
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,039
>> This is County Road. I can certainly

665
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,200
reach out to them and see what they say.

666
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,110
>> Well, I think that

667
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,960
that's pretty much all I have for you.

668
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,039
This may get pearl here, but your

669
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,960
engineering or your estimate on this

670
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,002
rear draw room is 385,000 or something.

671
00:31:50,002 --> 00:31:51,039
[clears throat] doesn't have any

672
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,120
engineering estimate in it, which I can

673
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,320
understand why you don't send your

674
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,320
engineering estimate out to be because

675
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000
>> I think those estimates what it's going

676
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
to cost for your guys' service, we ought

677
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,440
to be seeing

678
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240
>> I we we typically put those those budget

679
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,720
estimates we include the 10% for

680
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,320
engineering and then 10% for

681
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,080
construction. So when we do the

682
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,120
estimates that we get

683
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,799
>> going to go through one here a little

684
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,600
bit fairgrounds are for the third time

685
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,000
and some of that scope changed and who knows if the engineering

686
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840
changed I don't have any idea because we

687
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:30,000
have no in my mind no baseline where you guys was proposed to be at

688
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,760
>> I think there's a bit of a checkbook

689
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760
here for you guys that I want to start

690
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000
seeing all these bids before they go

691
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320
out.

692
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960
>> Yeah. Typically all we can do is good

693
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,039
rule of thumb is 10% for design and then

694
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,399
10% for during construction and we try

695
00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:48,640
and stay we're typically under that if

696
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,279
that's usually the you see every every

697
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,600
bill that comes in engineering fee for

698
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,519
whatever the project might be and it

699
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,519
always well how much we paid on that how

700
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,480
much we have paid on that

701
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640
we need more clear direction on you

702
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:10,870
guys' costing

703
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:20,230
Thank you. Thank you.

704
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Back on the

705
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,440
cattle guards I did last year when when

706
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,360
I put that in that fix. I reached out to

707
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,279
the foreign service and asked them. They

708
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:32,799
told me there's no way to build that

709
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,240
vest and they're none of that.

710
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,919
>> So you worked on that category last

711
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:38,880
year.

712
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,279
>> Well, we Yeah, because it keeps sinking.

713
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,919
It's traffic, you know, hits it. So we raised it. Keep putting shims under

714
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:48,960
and raised it. I I'm just like you. I'm

715
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
like there's no fence. So I reached out

716
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840
to them because I was gonna pull it and

717
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,399
they said no they're gonna have cows up there. They

718
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:02,470
said I got the fence picked

719
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,840
haven't seen cows.

720
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,919
>> I know me and [clears throat]

721
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,000
>> well I appreciate if you just run by

722
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,480
them again.

723
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:08,960
>> Yeah.

724
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,760
>> I mean because I think actually wasting

725
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,119
some money here right quick.

726
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,679
>> Yeah. [clears throat]

727
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,879
So, Rim Road um got everything we asked

728
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:25,919
for the um 100 foot easement, the extra

729
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:28,800
roof turnarounds and extra areas to put

730
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,720
snow catchers. Um but Clay wants to hold

731
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,040
it because he's got some questions that

732
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,960
he wants to see if we can work out. So,

733
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,869
I was going to have

734
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:49,679
guys sign we're kind of hold off.

735
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,599
So

736
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:55,040
other than that um [snorts]

737
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,440
waste management it's it's good. Um

738
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,000
starting starting to pick up getting

739
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,359
busy. Um the the building's pretty much

740
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:11,680
done. Turned out really nice. So we did a lot of extra

741
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,240
middle Blakes spent tons of time with

742
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,640
the fire

743
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,760
system in there. Um and but then all the

744
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680
construction

745
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480
is almost done pretty much. They the way

746
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,200
we did the the building, you know, it's

747
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,200
like a building inside of building and

748
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,200
then sprinklers were in the roof and all

749
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,560
that. We kind of we kind of changed that

750
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
design a little bit where it had where

751
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,480
you could store stuff on top. We did

752
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,119
away with that. We made it sloped and we

753
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,200
put tin on in that so if we ever have

754
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,440
sprinklers go off again, it won't rot in

755
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520
the break room and the offices and the

756
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,240
bathrooms and all that. Uh turned out

757
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:56,470
really nice.

758
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,800
Fire working good. Um so we're good

759
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,240
there. um golf course

760
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,440
and starting to go hot out there since

761
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,240
the ice line is starting to hel off.

762
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,920
We're out there doing stuff to fair

763
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,720
dragon picking up, you know, on debris

764
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,880
doing, like I said, probably later this

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
week, first part of next week, I got a

766
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520
number eight. I got to put some drains

767
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,760
in. Um so, we'll get out there and get

768
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,119
that done. Um, just trying to get

769
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:36,230
everything going to be open.

770
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240
» Mr. Chairman, I had a question. Golf

771
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,240
course. So, Billy, I got a couple of

772
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,280
letters here. Do you know about these

773
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,720
uh homeowners and the from the golf

774
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,440
course?

775
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,640
>> Oh, yeah. About the

776
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880
dogs and stuff.

777
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,119
>> Yeah. I mean I just I mean I didn't know

778
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,520
anything about it till I got contacted

779
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,405
you know people that you know and

780
00:37:04,405 --> 00:37:06,640
[clears throat] it's kind of surprise I

781
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,920
you know if I have knew they were going

782
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,240
out I' been more a little more prepared.

783
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,200
>> We we send letters out every year just

784
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,599
um since we've been there just because

785
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:20,400
every year we have um issues we have

786
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,680
stuff that arise. Um the big thing is is

787
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,079
when the you know they'll just come out

788
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,720
and start playing from whatever hole.

789
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,720
And so we just we just send out

790
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,800
reminders that they got to, you know,

791
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,839
let us know because that course is so

792
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,800
busy now that, you know, they they got

793
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,560
to let us know they can't just jump in

794
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,119
on a hole without us knowing, you know,

795
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,800
because we got, you know,

796
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520
they they tee off every 12 minutes, you

797
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359
know, so we start having a lot of

798
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:52,880
complaints about that. So, we just send

799
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,960
out a letter to all the homeowners just

800
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,800
letting them know, you know, remember to

801
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,400
call us and we make sure we have our

802
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,720
emails and stuff like that. And then

803
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:04,160
last year we had we had numerous dog,

804
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,079
you know, we had the big deal with, you

805
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,320
know, the guy getting bit stuff like

806
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,520
that and that was an ordeal going to be

807
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,960
with Clayton and Yeah. I mean, so we

808
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,560
just, you know, tell people to really

809
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,320
watch their dogs and that it's just kind

810
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,480
of a letter to

811
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680
just remind them that, you know, what we

812
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400
expect, you know, so we don't have

813
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,520
issues.

814
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,599
>> I have no objection to what the letter

815
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,520
what's in it has nothing to do with it.

816
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,119
Maybe if you'll just tell us next year

817
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:36,880
when you do, you know, because

818
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,920
>> Oh, okay. So, yeah,

819
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680
>> I mean, it's kind of like anonymous.

820
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,760
There's no signatures on there whether

821
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
we sent it out or you sent it out or

822
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,200
>> Well, the one we sent out had, you know, the, you know, we we put,

823
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,760
you know, we sent it out to and we had

824
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,960
our, you know, logo and everything on

825
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,480
it.

826
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,280
So, this one doesn't

827
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,839
>> Oh, I think that was probably um

828
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,680
probably that they must just printed

829
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160
that off the email or something because

830
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,320
some of them some of them we didn't have

831
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,960
mailing addresses. We just we just had

832
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,680
their email.

833
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,440
>> Okay. But like I say, I appreciate if

834
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,839
you know just let us know that you know

835
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:19,920
you're going to do that because you like

836
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
say I had I know you don't know who my

837
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,520
neighbor is. So,

838
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,040
>> Oh, yeah.

839
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,079
Uh, hey jumped out of stri that. So

840
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:29,040
>> yes,

841
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,920
>> thanks.

842
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,040
>> You bet.

843
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,960
>> On that, Billy. In addition, they came

844
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
back with a

845
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,079
appropriate rebuttal ladder on certain

846
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:38,880
items.

847
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,680
>> Yeah.

848
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,109
>> And

849
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,720
I would think that we need we should

850
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,160
address that and come up with some

851
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640
options that are available. That's

852
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,359
having people come and walk through your

853
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:54,550
yard.

854
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,119
might be hard for some people and to

855
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,200
have people urinating in front of your

856
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,160
house with children is not acceptable,

857
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,800
>> right? Um, so there we may need to

858
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,640
come up with some different options that

859
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,000
we can utilize.

860
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,720
>> Well, anytime you know that we hear that or see that, you know,

861
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,880
we basically, [clears throat] you know,

862
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,200
make them leave the course, you know.

863
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Um,

864
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,190
the

865
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920
I mean it's like retrieving their balls.

866
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
I mean, the ones that have fences, you

867
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,520
know, um, you know, a lot of them don't

868
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,480
have fences and stuff. I mean, if if if

869
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560
they call us and stuff, you know,

870
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,680
willing to do this, we can um,

871
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,839
you know, a lot of them like I read that

872
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:49,920
letter, too. A lot of them, you know,

873
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,520
the the walls in their houses and that,

874
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,680
you know, it's kind of up to them to put

875
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,640
nets up and stuff. I mean, a lot of it

876
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,000
is I mean, we can do what we can, you

877
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,839
know, but um they got to offer and let

878
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:07,839
us know. I mean, that some of that's the

879
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:09,839
first time I've ever heard that. I mean,

880
00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,240
we got portaots out there. We got

881
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:17,760
bathrooms out there. Um, you know,

882
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,240
they just got to communicate with us and

883
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,640
we'll we'll help them as much as we can.

884
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,400
>> Great.

885
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,920
didn't bring that up and I'm sure it's

886
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,520
problem faced nationwide.

887
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,960
>> Yeah,

888
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:37,750
>> thank you.

889
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:44,870
» Please Shan Cooper

890
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
sorry

891
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,720
we need

892
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,030
stage. Thank you

893
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,400
and

894
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:17,030
Build

895
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,430
it.

896
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,079
Okay. Well, this is kind of the breakdown that I

897
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,240
sent out here last week to you. I hope

898
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,560
hopefully you received that and went

899
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640
through it.

900
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,680
I guess first of all, um I apologize for

901
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,800
any misunderstanding during the last few

902
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,720
weeks as to what this total project's

903
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,720
going to cause

904
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,200
in the future. I'll make every every

905
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,839
effort to include this kind of as a

906
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,720
break time even when they're dealing

907
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,599
with bids and contracts. It's dealing

908
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,319
specifically with the work being done.

909
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:01,359
But Mr. gravity through loud and clear

910
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:03,680
on these projects. We'll make sure that

911
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,760
show us front end what we're estimating

912
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,040
as far as what you know design costs are

913
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,839
and construction in this just so

914
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:13,839
everybody understands the bottom line

915
00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:18,720
what what is this cost. So

916
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,119
apologize for the you know successive

917
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:27,680
weeks of having to deal with this. Um I did break it out so you all understand

918
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319
what this is going to cost. Um I did

919
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:32,079
have it kind of broke down like that. It

920
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,560
was I guess a little bit more messy

921
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,280
because of that whole project costs as

922
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,319
far as option A plus the base bid was

923
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:44,560
the base bid only. So that's where we're

924
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,160
at. Um I guess carrying [clears throat]

925
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,280
that further the shade contract I

926
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,760
reached out to Tangi let know our

927
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,520
situation that this meeting was going to

928
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,319
be happening Tuesday and they agreed to

929
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:00,880
stick with the same go that we've had

930
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,359
since January. So there's no adjustments

931
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:07,440
to that we had previously in January.

932
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,440
Um so the numbers all still you know are

933
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,119
indicated on this on this tab sheet. Um

934
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,280
and I understand

935
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,920
you know this what what I indicated

936
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,000
there was what we had into design

937
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,800
engineering which was has been the paid

938
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,839
board up through the end of life

939
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:29,680
and what

940
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839
you know what we would have for a budget

941
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:32,960
we're dealing with as far as

942
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,920
construction goes to the close out

943
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,400
>> that 86,000 that been paid already.

944
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,510
>> Yes.

945
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,550
in the project.

946
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040
I do have a signed agreement back from

947
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,750
teleractors for the $921,735.

948
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Um, I did submit that agreement in the

949
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,920
entire project manual to uh Clayton's

950
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,880
office for review. Um, it did review and

951
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:17,510
hope to them. So,

952
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,359
questions.

953
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:21,520
>> I got one of them. I mean, so at one

954
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,359
time he's talking about the extra

955
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:25,119
supports for that roof that's brought

956
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,760
up. Is that all been talked about

957
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,280
covering

958
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,599
>> for the roof the the shade system?

959
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:32,319
>> Yes.

960
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:35,359
>> Yeah. So we've we've got we've got money

961
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:39,200
in Teletractor's account for having

962
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,440
because we're basically once we get the

963
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,200
engineering back from the shade company

964
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,560
and they say this is what we're going to

965
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200
need for the sports we have got money in

966
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,119
the contract set aside for that 25,000

967
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,160
is part of the patellacctor's bid may

968
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,400
not need all of that that's basically

969
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,800
the set aside to account for extra

970
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,990
concrete work.

971
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,280
But with project getting a phase one

972
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,839
taken out of it or back

973
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:15,040
your $85,000 engineering fee that that's

974
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,000
adjusted down to the current project.

975
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:26,150
Yes.

976
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560
this point in time, we're looking for

977
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,560
approval for denial of the

978
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,839
additional $200,000. We've approved the

979
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:39,440
last meeting um

980
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,069
and then $21,735.

981
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,720
Mr. Chairman, I made a motion patiently

982
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,319
looked at Skype about including the rest

983
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:53,280
of the costs. So after throwing out

984
00:46:53,280 --> 00:47:02,710
there to approve this project 1 1,126,18

985
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,079
motion second have a motion and a

986
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:10,950
second. Any further discussion?

987
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,200
All in favor?

988
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,950
>> Oppos?

989
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
» We get two on that please. Motion pass.

990
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:39,270
Thank you, Commissioners.

991
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:54,950
priority.

992
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,079
» Hey, good morning, commissioners. How

993
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,440
are you? Good. Um, I'll be brief just to

994
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,880
try to get through the report, but it's

995
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,160
just my standard monthly report. you

996
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,400
guys have in front of you. Our budget's

997
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,079
about in alignment with the percentage

998
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,319
of year used with percentage of budget

999
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:11,920
expenditures. A little formula that ML's

1000
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,440
done a great job to track down a couple

1001
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,839
of grants to help pay for the wildland

1002
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:19,599
fire um shelters that that we brought to

1003
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:20,960
your attention a few months ago. So,

1004
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,119
we're in the process of purchasing those

1005
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:26,079
shelters as we speak. Um last month,

1006
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:27,760
there were 16 calls total. You'll see

1007
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,119
the breakdown in in each of the

1008
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,400
stations. No open fire investigations,

1009
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,240
uh, no public education, uh,

1010
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,040
presentations presented in in February.

1011
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Our firewise programs continuing to go

1012
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,319
strong. You can see all the activities

1013
00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:43,760
that that Josie has been working on. Uh,

1014
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,520
no smoke detector installations last

1015
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,640
month. Training is going strong. Our our

1016
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,440
annual recruit academy is uh in full

1017
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,760
swing. They they've been using the the

1018
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,599
uh fire train facility basically over

1019
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,680
the weekend.

1020
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,599
a lot of other activities and trainings

1021
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,280
going on down there. Um,

1022
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,680
and focusing on hazmat first aid CPR

1023
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,960
training. We did just finish every 5

1024
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680
years. Uh, we're required to complete a

1025
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,240
uh structural assessment of the fire

1026
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,839
training facility to make sure that it's

1027
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:17,920
not uh, you know, falling down around

1028
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,079
our ears basically and that it's safe to

1029
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:21,760
uh, conduct live fire training in there.

1030
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
So, we just completed doing that that

1031
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,040
5year inspection. Uh everything came

1032
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
back just fine. There's some some minor

1033
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,760
maintenance issues, but uh no no no need

1034
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,359
for budget or anything to address it.

1035
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:36,400
Just a some minor paint touch-ups and a

1036
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,240
couple of doors that weren't closing

1037
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,559
correctly. It's minor issue there. Um

1038
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,480
and then beyond that, just regular

1039
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,359
voluntary service meetings and their

1040
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:46,800
coordinator, local, state, and federal

1041
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,760
partners and

1042
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,440
just the the volunteer hours and the

1043
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,240
additional activities the firef. So with

1044
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,440
that, I'm happy to stand for any

1045
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,990
questions.

1046
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
I want to ask a question that I was

1047
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,720
confused about earlier. sheriff leaders

1048
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:10,630
about

1049
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,150
curious

1050
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,640
in the radios purchased in the last

1051
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,440
couple of trips

1052
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,839
also works all over the country search

1053
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,839
and rescue for search and rescue had

1054
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:27,680
five air radios 2546

1055
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,720
fire had four of them 4270 so I know

1056
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,200
there has to be a different so what's

1057
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,359
the difference in the in the two two

1058
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:38,240
sets radio.

1059
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,920
>> Commissioner Bernard, I'm not prepared

1060
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,359
to speak to that right now. I don't have

1061
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:45,920
that invoice in front of me and I can't answer from memory what what the

1062
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,800
exact invoice was. Um, I can I can tell

1063
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,240
you that there's a uh a statewide

1064
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,480
um uh what's the word? I'm looking for a

1065
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,160
state

1066
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,480
plate and there's here um there's a

1067
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,839
uh shares what's the name of the the the

1068
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:06,319
contract that L3 Harris signed

1069
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:08,000
specifying the the lowest price

1070
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,160
available in the state of Wyoming for L3

1071
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,480
products

1072
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,000
>> through RCS? Yeah. just a local vendor

1073
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,079
price

1074
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:19,440
long or a public service gets a a

1075
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000
discount um or the lowest price that

1076
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,119
they can guarantee.

1077
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,680
>> Yeah. And and Southern County receives

1078
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,720
that that benefit for emergency

1079
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,160
responders. So that they they are the

1080
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,400
chosen vendor from from the manufacturer

1081
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,720
from L3 Harris. The price that that we

1082
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,559
receive um is is their their published

1083
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,800
pricing for

1084
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,280
radios.

1085
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,880
I can't tell you, you know, what the

1086
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,640
sheriff's been purchasing for his radios

1087
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,119
and anything else. I can just tell you

1088
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,720
that, you know, what we purchased, but

1089
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,960
like I said, if um if you if you'd like

1090
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,040
me to review the the invoice, I I

1091
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,720
certainly can pull that invoice and come

1092
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,040
back next time and speak to you. I just

1093
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,440
want to say that we have this scheduled

1094
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,880
for next meeting. So, we'll just

1095
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,640
continue this path and move on to the

1096
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,440
next line.

1097
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,920
So we have it already on the next

1098
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,240
agenda. We'll cover it at that point.

1099
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:17,359
Thank you.

1100
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:22,790
Further questions.

1101
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:51,349
» Thank you.

1102
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:54,880
I come to ask for some help. Um,

1103
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,119
we live in the community or subdivision

1104
00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:00,079
out here on 351. We got some issues out

1105
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,520
there with some people driving fast.

1106
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,240
uh talked to Casey about it. He said

1107
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:07,599
they could come out and they could give

1108
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:11,599
a ticket, but then the county county

1109
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,480
attorney would just throw it out. I need

1110
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
to find out what we've got to do where

1111
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,520
we can maybe enforce some of the laws

1112
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,720
out there. Uh help us out out there

1113
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:27,040
because this gentleman's he's a kid. Um

1114
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,079
rides 505 mph down our road out there.

1115
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,960
We've got families, young kids. stuff

1116
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,119
like that. So, we're just asking for

1117
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,359
some help from the county to find out

1118
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:39,520
what we can do to get this taken care

1119
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,079
of. We pay our taxes just like everybody

1120
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:43,680
else does and stuff. And no one thinks

1121
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,720
we should do the same

1122
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,800
benefit I guess as everybody else does

1123
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,119
except

1124
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:53,359
we're looking for some help. What we're

1125
00:53:53,359 --> 00:54:00,309
looking for if you guys can give us any

1126
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:03,990
Yes, sir.

1127
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,829
Uh Clayton,

1128
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:11,359
» which road is it? Mr. Mr. Chairman sir

1129
00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:22,230
road.

1130
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:27,510
Just pass back off to the north.

1131
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,800
» 351.

1132
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,559
>> Yes, sir.

1133
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:40,790
Oh, 351.

1134
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,680
» Yeah.

1135
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,162
>> Oh, I see.

1136
00:54:46,172 --> 00:54:46,800
[clears throat]

1137
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,240
>> I'll have to look into potential

1138
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,000
enforcing issues and I can touch base

1139
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,559
with uh sheriff later and would circle

1140
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:57,440
back. But yes, in the event that it the question does come up whether or not

1141
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,079
you can enforce or not. Uh speed limits

1142
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,400
are only enforceable on public roads

1143
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,920
where there are speed studies that have

1144
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,200
been conducted. I can't speak to what

1145
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,000
this looks like. I I don't know. I'd

1146
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,359
have to do some research and get back to

1147
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:13,040
you. But in all likelihood, if it is a

1148
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,960
private road and it is maintained as a

1149
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,000
private road, uh there is no ability for

1150
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,240
traffic enforcement on a private road.

1151
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,240
Okay. So, what what do we have to do to

1152
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,800
get some kind of enforcement out there

1153
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,800
uh for this situation? I mean, you know,

1154
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,359
we're stuck out there by ourselves. Um

1155
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:30,880
we don't get nothing from the county.

1156
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,319
It's private road. I take care of the

1157
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:35,040
road most of the time. Um you know, so I

1158
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,640
need what can we do to get some help out

1159
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,480
there for the community and for our

1160
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,000
little community out there. There's

1161
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,280
quite a few folks out there that are

1162
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,720
living there and stuff. Um and and you

1163
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,079
know we kind of like where we're doing

1164
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:50,160
where we're living at and stuff. But you

1165
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,160
know again we get back to you know the

1166
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,319
growth stuff's not the issue. It's the

1167
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,000
being able to force a speed limit when

1168
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,559
you got a man that we've asked numerous

1169
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,079
times

1170
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,200
to slow down to try to keep you know

1171
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,960
from somebody getting hurt or a cow from

1172
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,319
getting hit or a horse from getting hit

1173
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:08,319
or something like that. But yet we can't

1174
00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:11,359
get no no no help from our our county or

1175
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:13,280
our sheriff's department. That's kind of

1176
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,839
ridiculous on my part. I think anyway,

1177
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:18,079
you know, we pay taxes instead for for

1178
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:22,160
this to live here. So, you know, Mr.

1179
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,040
Chairman, sir, how about we have a

1180
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,044
conversation after me to talk through

1181
00:56:27,044 --> 00:56:27,599
[clears throat]

1182
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,520
exactly what this all looks like and and

1183
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,359
some of those steps that you need to do.

1184
00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:32,880
Again, I'd have to do some research on

1185
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,119
the plots and figure out exactly what

1186
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,119
the status of the road is and everything

1187
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,359
else before I can fully answer those

1188
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:39,760
questions.

1189
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,319
>> Sure.

1190
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:47,670
I'd like to piggy back on that partic

1191
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,000
also. It's not maintained by the county

1192
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,400
and I recognize notably the county to

1193
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,640
maintain it for me. I have to bring it

1194
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,720
up to county specifications as a class

1195
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,839
one road. Go through the expense of that

1196
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:03,359
plus uh the appropriate easements right

1197
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:06,079
away on the sides of the road. Um, and

1198
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,040
in order for me to do that,

1199
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,440
it would be up to the land owners to put

1200
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,240
that cost. All the land owners would

1201
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,559
have to give an easement to do that. And

1202
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,240
once that's brought up, at that point in

1203
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,480
time, I could have that road.

1204
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,400
I experienced the same thing as as you

1205
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,920
do. I lost a dog here several weeks ago

1206
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,599
and the person speeding through and they

1207
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:32,720
didn't even have the decency to stop.

1208
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,400
So, I I recognize what you're going

1209
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,870
through.

1210
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,680
But if there were something that I could

1211
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,680
do in regards to my role, I can't. But I

1212
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,119
would share that with you if that makes

1213
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:46,799
sense.

1214
00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:48,559
I pay taxes just the same as you and

1215
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,799
everyone else on the road. And we're

1216
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:53,680
just kind of those areas that there's no

1217
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,559
solution unless we

1218
00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:58,400
purchased it that way and it wasn't

1219
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,240
developed in the subdivision. That's

1220
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,040
what we have to accept. Right.

1221
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,640
>> And I'm not trying to be callous about

1222
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,200
being nobody.

1223
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,440
>> I understand that. But and I'm not

1224
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040
worried about the road. I'm not here for

1225
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,839
the road stuff. I'm more worried about a

1226
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,000
young young kid or something get run

1227
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,799
over out there because some jack can't,

1228
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:18,720
you know, slow down and obey the laws

1229
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,640
and stuff.

1230
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,480
I don't want that to happen. Period. You

1231
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,440
know, I used to dig holes in front of my

1232
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,760
uh yard there. So people would remorse

1233
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,240
and slow down

1234
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,799
as that seems

1235
00:58:32,799 --> 00:58:34,000
>> Mr. J.

1236
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,680
>> So and I understand Marvin we've talked

1237
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,520
about this and I goofed you up last time

1238
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,480
remember on the meeting. Uh but you know

1239
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,319
the sheriff's office will go onto

1240
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:46,880
private property and do things you know

1241
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,880
and I I'd like to know what the

1242
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,760
difference is you know on your private

1243
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,440
property or going on a private residence

1244
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,160
to investigate something. So there has

1245
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,839
to be some kind of coverage per say

1246
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,440
hopefully

1247
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,119
can work some out.

1248
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:04,960
>> Well, and that's when I asking these

1249
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:05,920
questions, you know, because we're a

1250
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,440
lost out there, you know, and this has

1251
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,280
been going on quite a bit. The young man

1252
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,079
has since moved on, so it's not so bad

1253
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,400
right now, but there for about a year

1254
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,200
and a half, it was it was a problem, you

1255
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,359
know, and I'm talking this this kid

1256
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:23,440
running 50 55 mph. There should be 20,

1257
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,240
you know, and so we need some help. We

1258
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,280
do, you know, be more than happy to meet

1259
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,880
with the county commissioner or county

1260
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880
attorney and see what we can do out

1261
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,799
there on that, you know, we need some

1262
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:40,000
help out there.

1263
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,960
>> Can I say something please? the first

1264
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,079
mile that JLE would you come to the mic

1265
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,680
say

1266
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,950
thank you

1267
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,680
» from the highway down to to the first

1268
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:56,160
mile

1269
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,040
>> your name please

1270
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,920
>> Bill Hawker

1271
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,559
>> thank you

1272
00:59:58,559 --> 00:59:59,599
>> William

1273
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,520
>> Hawker

1274
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,799
the first mile of BLM is that considered

1275
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:08,240
private or public

1276
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,440
>> federal federal roads can be made uh so

1277
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,880
they're maintained under

1278
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,400
the regulations and maintenance.

1279
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880
>> I I was more referring to being able to

1280
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,630
write a ticket and get it to stick.

1281
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:32,390
» I was taking BLM road.

1282
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,839
» Mr. Chairman, let me keep looking at

1283
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:35,839
this. That would be that would actually

1284
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:37,440
depend on the easement and whether or

1285
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,079
not it's exclusive or not exclusive.

1286
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:47,109
I don't know, but I'm happy to get some.

1287
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:47,839
Thank you.

1288
01:00:47,839 --> 01:01:06,470
>> Thanks, guys. Thank you.

1289
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,870
Good morning.

1290
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,599
Um,

1291
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,640
all right. So, I just have a few updates

1292
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,079
here. I did receive an update from Andre

1293
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:23,520
regarding the proposal for the

1294
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,040
renovation of the Broom from

1295
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,599
Jorgensson's. Uh, Jorgensson's came back

1296
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:32,000
said it was at least going to be 50,000

1297
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,480
including the data wiring that I had a

1298
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,720
proposal done for as well. that was came

1299
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,000
in at 10,000. So, a file room at the

1300
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,920
attorney's office to renovate would be

1301
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,040
at least 60,000.

1302
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,359
>> Um, and in regards to the side size of

1303
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:49,040
that room,

1304
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,839
>> uh, the size of the room,

1305
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:55,280
it's almost a lateral, right? I mean,

1306
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,119
the one thing that we do get out of that

1307
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:02,079
is we get room for me and my staff to,

1308
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,480
but we're still limited on storage.

1309
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,640
We're still limited on on a lab area and

1310
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,400
that's something I'm already kind of

1311
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,960
discovering in the office I'm currently

1312
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,599
at. I have one little desk in there and

1313
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,920
that's all you can fit that I can

1314
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,760
utilize to troubleshoot peripheral

1315
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,119
devices, um, reimage computers, things

1316
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,520
like that. I guess what that limits me

1317
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,839
to is I can only work on one thing at a

1318
01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:27,520
time.

1319
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,240
with the lab area. I'm hoping that I can

1320
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,720
work on we get a shipment of new

1321
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,480
computers, things like that. I can

1322
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,280
reimage five six of them at once. Also

1323
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,240
working on some networking projects.

1324
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,799
Um I think that would speed up my

1325
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:44,720
abilities within the county to provide

1326
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,640
better service to our to our to the

1327
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,270
staff members within the county.

1328
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,839
» I also wanted to follow up with the

1329
01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:56,000
gentleman regarding the uh the modular

1330
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,680
trailer.

1331
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:03,839
Uh the estimated cost is 82 $82,282.

1332
01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:06,559
Um I did add some skirting on it and

1333
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:08,160
that brought it up a couple thousand

1334
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,280
dollar. Um

1335
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,960
additional cost for that would be the

1336
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,000
hookups for power, water, sewer, and

1337
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,400
internet.

1338
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,520
I think those would be mitigated. The

1339
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,280
only one that I didn't see that would be

1340
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,000
a uh kind of an endeavor I guess would

1341
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,039
be the the internet while the right

1342
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,839
there it will be a recurring revenue or

1343
01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:40,470
a recurring fee excuse me

1344
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,839
Mr.

1345
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:43,920
So on that you'd have that 10,000 too,

1346
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,839
wouldn't you put the stuff over there?

1347
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,200
You send any we have to the county

1348
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,440
attorney's office that extra fee for the

1349
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,240
set of

1350
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,559
>> Yeah. So would it be on top of that

1351
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:56,400
price there you gave us on the trailer

1352
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:56,960
and stuff?

1353
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,119
>> That would be on top of that price.

1354
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:00,480
>> I mean you added in

1355
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,880
>> that's just the trailer. I haven't got a

1356
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:08,000
price yet for the well actually I

1357
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,079
it would be between 675 and 800 a month

1358
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:16,480
for the internet connection for the

1359
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,799
pointto point

1360
01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:20,640
and that that's based off of what I've

1361
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,920
seen from union and every other

1362
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,520
department and how they're currently

1363
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:29,109
priced.

1364
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,359
Guess the big difference. Now I can go

1365
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:33,440
with the the smaller of the two which is

1366
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,200
a 158

1367
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,599
pointto-point pipe just for the internet

1368
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:41,349
connection.

1369
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:41,920
» Excuse me.

1370
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,849
>> Yes. 10,000 to get wiring into that.

1371
01:04:44,849 --> 01:04:44,880
[clears throat]

1372
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,000
>> Oh, into the into the filing room.

1373
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,200
>> I think it's actually when I had the

1374
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,680
trailer spec they will wire it for me.

1375
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:59,589
So that's all included.

1376
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,319
So then we're looking at 82,000 plus the

1377
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:04,480
skirting. Is that the extent?

1378
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,400
>> Yeah, that's

1379
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,799
I realized that after our last meeting

1380
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:13,910
probably wanted to cover the tires

1381
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,039
that

1382
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:18,240
>> um I know Road and Bridge has

1383
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,720
volunteered some of their time. I talked

1384
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,839
to Blake about the water hookups, things

1385
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,960
like that. So I I believe we'd be able

1386
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,520
to get Andre the assistance with

1387
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,799
>> Yeah. totally cost.

1388
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:33,839
>> So does that trailer

1389
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:35,839
where it's all done and you're just

1390
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:37,680
doing point of connection for sewer and

1391
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,799
water?

1392
01:05:38,799 --> 01:05:40,720
>> That's that's my understanding sink has

1393
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,359
to be plumbed. Every toilet has to be

1394
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:46,319
plumbed. to my understanding is we just

1395
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:50,160
have to hook up the plumbing

1396
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,950
a little.

1397
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,720
» Okay.

1398
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,640
When could this

1399
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,119
unit be up and functional?

1400
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:03,520
>> They will have it ready. I placed the

1401
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,799
order. They said they can have it ready

1402
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:06,559
in 30 days.

1403
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:08,319
>> Okay. When does time start?

1404
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:13,670
>> Time starts April 1st.

1405
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,640
Leila IL

1406
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,440
what are you going to do with him

1407
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,000
between April 1st and perhaps if this

1408
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,200
comes in

1409
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,440
>> Leila Illoway I need to speak to her

1410
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,119
again. I was just waiting till after

1411
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:30,559
this meeting but uh she had said that

1412
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,799
she had a spare cubicle in the planning

1413
01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,880
and zoning office

1414
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,599
that we would probably make his new home

1415
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:39,359
temporarily.

1416
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,280
Obviously, that's not a working solution

1417
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,119
for a long time, but it would give them

1418
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:46,319
a place to set up a computer, a phone,

1419
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:55,829
and actually be able to do some work and store files.

1420
01:06:55,839 --> 01:07:02,549
Um, discussion on mov.

1421
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:03,760
I've never been for the idea of the

1422
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,760
trailers. I've seen schools use them set

1423
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,760
up and they're just a problem. I mean,

1424
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,000
it's not a permanent thing. Even what

1425
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,160
sounds like it,

1426
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,599
you know, that's going to take up part

1427
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:15,359
of that parking lot. We call it those

1428
01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:17,440
people across the street, put our

1429
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,599
maintenance vehicles over there, you

1430
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,720
know, I mean, it's

1431
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,079
that's all I'd like to say just and and

1432
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:30,079
I recognize that and debating it. We

1433
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:31,520
need to come out with an option because

1434
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,680
again, no one has come forward with any

1435
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,440
options. And in this regard, it goes

1436
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,920
back three maybe four months. We've been

1437
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,960
talking about shoot reality goes back a

1438
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,599
year and a half when uh your predecessor

1439
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:49,280
was instructed to hire an assistant in

1440
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,160
24 and it was brought up again last

1441
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,319
summer approved in her budget to hire

1442
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:57,359
someone. Um

1443
01:07:57,359 --> 01:08:02,400
at that point in time both time periods

1444
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,240
we had to cross the bridge of where to

1445
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,640
put them

1446
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,160
but we haven't done anything to resolve

1447
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,640
that other than down the road we're at

1448
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,000
the point where we have an individual

1449
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,920
coming in

1450
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,600
>> and can basically came to the can't go

1451
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,679
any further. We need to do something as

1452
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:25,120
a as a commission to do it and

1453
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,440
But there's no viable options.

1454
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:30,719
>> Well, the county's got possibilities. I

1455
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:32,880
mean, I still think we need to pursue

1456
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,440
say trailer is a temporary fix. They

1457
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:39,440
never made to be a permanent fix and

1458
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:41,600
it's going to cost more than projected

1459
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,000
here to get it all hooked up instead of

1460
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,799
the city. So, anyway, I mean, it's okay.

1461
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:48,640
I'm against it, but I'm

1462
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,199
>> and I recognize that the problem that I

1463
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:52,640
have and I've been chasing this for

1464
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,719
months is no one can come up with any

1465
01:08:54,719 --> 01:08:57,839
options for me. I'm going I'd love to

1466
01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:00,719
add um

1467
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:04,640
Oh, out of Weeden Pest, see if we could

1468
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,110
uh

1469
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,880
put you out there in Steve Kips building

1470
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,719
and make some adjustments.

1471
01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:18,239
and it's not big enough to share. I

1472
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:20,480
don't think Billy has any room over to

1473
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:24,390
his right

1474
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,359
to be somewhere.

1475
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,159
>> Correct. So, but that's what we're

1476
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:33,040
looking at is and you're correct finding

1477
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,920
other buildings but haven't been able to

1478
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,400
locate it and then for the purpose of

1479
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,839
the work

1480
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:47,910
rest

1481
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,600
over here in one of these small

1482
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,239
buildings

1483
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,880
to that I do I do agree with

1484
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,960
Commissioner Bradley. I'd really like to

1485
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,600
be centralized so I can provide better

1486
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,520
support. I do I I understand the

1487
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,920
logistics and and the struggles we're

1488
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,000
having here at the same um

1489
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,679
the

1490
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:13,679
extension office that was the temporary

1491
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:16,719
attorney's office years ago.

1492
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:19,600
Um, it's a module. Same same thing I'm

1493
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,760
looking at.

1494
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:26,000
And I I know we're still using that, I

1495
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,159
guess, is my point. But I I I know a

1496
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:33,040
trailer is not the optimal solution for

1497
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,679
this. But at the same time, I feel like

1498
01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:39,840
especially getting my first week under

1499
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,199
me, that it's something that we need to

1500
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,600
find a space that suits us so we can

1501
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,840
succeed in this position and move

1502
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,239
forward to a better IT department by

1503
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:53,040
better service

1504
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,040
and having opposite offices and confined

1505
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,880
to a office the size of a closet.

1506
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,239
It's not the right solution long term.

1507
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:06,159
Granted, I'll I'll do whatever you guys

1508
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:08,560
want me to do. Commissioner White hit

1509
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,040
the nail on the head

1510
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,000
courthouse

1511
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,120
everyone in one facility

1512
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,440
and that discussion

1513
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,600
probably sooner than later but in the

1514
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,880
interim it does not alleviate the issue

1515
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:32,709
that you have probably

1516
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:34,239
everything there that's pretty cheap

1517
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:44,070
square you

1518
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,870
Is there

1519
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:54,070
» are you making a motion please?

1520
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,760
» These other two take first.

1521
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,600
>> Sure.

1522
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,280
>> I think this is the best option we have

1523
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,560
in front of us right now. So the mandate

1524
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,480
that's going to get us through who knows

1525
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,000
for how long that we're going to have to

1526
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:14,390
do it.

1527
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,520
There was some discussion

1528
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,920
for the visitor center that went away

1529
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:35,510
now. I thought that was something shant.

1530
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,320
area.

1531
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:45,270
>> Would

1532
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,669
you

1533
01:12:49,679 --> 01:13:03,910
release?

1534
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,920
No, I understand that. But I understood

1535
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,480
Clayton said

1536
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:15,830
she was going to move out there. Yes.

1537
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,560
That's why I just ask

1538
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,040
for

1539
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,560
only being here for a short period of

1540
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,159
time.

1541
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:32,149
>> I know.

1542
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,800
Sorry to interrupt, but I didn't know if

1543
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,840
you had any opportunity to have a

1544
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,360
conversation with the upstairs office at

1545
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,280
the visitor center to find out the

1546
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,239
status of that.

1547
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:45,920
>> Um, I did on Friday and I just haven't

1548
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,400
had a chance to relay it to relay it to

1549
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,640
you. Um, that tenant is happy as a

1550
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,040
client right there.

1551
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,199
>> That accomplishes it. Thank you. Okay.

1552
01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:00,320
>> Appreciate it. That's all I need.

1553
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,040
Yes sir.

1554
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:06,070
>> Okay.

1555
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,400
So

1556
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,719
great question.

1557
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:21,901
always knew that term

1558
01:14:21,911 --> 01:14:22,880
[clears throat] I don't know about the

1559
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,960
trailer

1560
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,840
agreement with commissioner Stevens

1561
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,840
that thing bunch of issues

1562
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,360
you set it up there first thing you're

1563
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,120
going to have to screw it you're going

1564
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,320
to have to go out

1565
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,920
and all fit in together So at some point

1566
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:47,920
we're talking 85 90,000 jumps up to 154

1567
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,120
done and right now we're going to end up

1568
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,080
if it's there we're going to end up with

1569
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,600
folks that they parked in there

1570
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,480
that's going to go

1571
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:05,590
to that push

1572
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,669
I guess

1573
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:11,760
I'm not in favor of it from the

1574
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,159
standpoint of think there's going to be

1575
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,320
temporary for about that and then what

1576
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,480
are you going to do after that you're

1577
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:21,280
going to make that move again some place

1578
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:27,910
it's going to have to be centralized

1579
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,120
what's what's what are the options

1580
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,880
or

1581
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:40,630
squeeze closer together. I don't know.

1582
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,480
Unfortunately, no one's come up with a

1583
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:44,080
viable option and that's where we were

1584
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,062
at this point.

1585
01:15:47,062 --> 01:15:48,640
[clears throat]

1586
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,480
Well, there could be one other Mr.

1587
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:52,080
Chairman, there'd be one other option

1588
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,520
here in the courthouse.

1589
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,199
This will get a lot of place

1590
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,120
the break room that the employees have

1591
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,960
there. We can downsize that

1592
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,120
some place else there. There's a spot

1593
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,520
too

1594
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,120
all that opened up in conjunction with

1595
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:23,910
the existing IT office substance.

1596
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,149
I will see that

1597
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:30,080
but it's right there. The move is where

1598
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,760
it is. I mean then what we to one

1599
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,120
individual or two how can we work with

1600
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,040
the other 25

1601
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,640
I don't know maybe we just have to come

1602
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,320
to an agreement to get along with

1603
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,840
someone instead of everybody having

1604
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,920
their own way. That could be an option

1605
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:58,470
too about the commission about that too.

1606
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:02,390
» Yeah, we've

1607
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,320
at a point where is it an option or not?

1608
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,800
I make a motion

1609
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,159
for a while to research.

1610
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:13,760
>> I'm ready to move forward with this. So,

1611
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,280
Mr. Chairman, I make uh I'll move to

1612
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,199
approve Craig um to set this office

1613
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:25,520
project up with a full cap of 110,000

1614
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,880
should you have to go over 110,000 go

1615
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,480
back and have a conversation with us

1616
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:34,239
before anything else happens

1617
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:38,159
motion and second is there any further

1618
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:42,070
discussion

1619
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,199
I have to look at it We ourel this

1620
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:51,990
corner

1621
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,040
we put ourselves in this corner. We had

1622
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,679
been two years as our commission. We

1623
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:04,070
haven't shame shame on us. Um

1624
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,600
and

1625
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,960
the IT position is

1626
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,679
oh basically the heartbeat of what we do

1627
01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:14,880
is if that system goes down

1628
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,640
the

1629
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,040
activators can't get the bang for their

1630
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,830
buck that they need from the offices

1631
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,669
and everything.

1632
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:30,400
Well, when I said moving in the break

1633
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:35,030
room, I guess what I should say was

1634
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,719
because the break room could still be

1635
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:38,719
smaller, which it would be into the

1636
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:41,600
current it

1637
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,199
then would be bigger into the break

1638
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:47,360
room, which it is, but I suspect until

1639
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,960
there's better option other than the

1640
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:56,310
trailer that could be

1641
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:00,159
moved. is very large.

1642
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,159
>> Thank you.

1643
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:06,070
care to address that?

1644
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,239
» Yes. Um

1645
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:11,840
I I understand again the dilemma we're

1646
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,440
in

1647
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,440
this space the current state of the

1648
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:18,239
county.

1649
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:19,679
Break room. I know that's not going to

1650
01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:22,719
be a popular one. Number one. Number

1651
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:24,640
two, it doesn't address the lab and it

1652
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,360
doesn't address my storage issues. Every

1653
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,440
communication room in the county is

1654
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:32,400
bumped full of junk stuff that I'm

1655
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:37,040
trying to get a plan to hopefully

1656
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,800
do like a buyback program. I'm

1657
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,080
understanding that they there are

1658
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,840
companies that buy back retired

1659
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,360
equipment. Something that I could

1660
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,000
hopefully make some additional revenue

1661
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,840
back to the county with while getting

1662
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,800
rid of this stuff. Um, I I need a

1663
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,040
storage area for that. I need it for an

1664
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,440
inventory. It's It's a lot. You know,

1665
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:00,400
there's what, 193 desktops in the

1666
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,760
county. And at any time, I have probably

1667
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,760
20 in that little office I'm in right

1668
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,800
now. That's just the one I'm working on

1669
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,960
that I'm inheriting. So,

1670
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
the the storage is a big deal. The lab's

1671
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,040
a big deal.

1672
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,520
I understand the trailer as a temporary

1673
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,880
solution, but I think that's for me.

1674
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,480
I'll do whatever you guys want. I'll

1675
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:29,199
happily do it. That that's the that's

1676
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:30,880
the one that gives me the opportunity to

1677
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,159
succeed in this.

1678
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:38,550
Thank you. Thank

1679
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,360
any further discussion

1680
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:47,910
just to comment to [clears throat]

1681
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,199
flip the break room to his office. Now,

1682
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:52,880
you cannot put the sink in there.

1683
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,719
There's no sewer in that corner of the

1684
01:20:54,719 --> 01:20:56,960
building. like where clerks in the

1685
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,360
bathroom is, all that sewer runs out

1686
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,280
through the sally port and then

1687
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,719
everything in the jail and everything

1688
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:05,360
else out runs out the other way. So that

1689
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,520
little corner of the building where all

1690
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,760
three buildings got tied together, there

1691
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,640
is no sewer. It would be astronomical to

1692
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,080
try to get a sink put in his old office

1693
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,320
and flip the blank.

1694
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,000
>> Thank you. I appreciate it.

1695
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,920
>> Mr. chairman tries to pay the comments.

1696
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,719
I already measured that that trailer

1697
01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:33,440
bill. It's not going to block any of the

1698
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:37,360
parking mess any of the

1699
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,520
food trucks. It's it's in that back

1700
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,040
corner over by the title place um where

1701
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,159
the other trailer sat for I don't know

1702
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:47,440
how many years I was there where the

1703
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,560
attorneys were. It's um it it ain't

1704
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,639
going to mess with any of Audrey's

1705
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:55,760
parking or any of the deputies and the

1706
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,120
detention where they park there. It's no

1707
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,560
one parks where this is. Um also on the

1708
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,480
trailers there's sealed bottoms so all

1709
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:07,040
the all the water lines that are in the

1710
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,080
floor. So long as you have skirting

1711
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:14,790
around it burn

1712
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,510
and I mean you can

1713
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,920
off the state for many years. Um I just

1714
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,920
want to throw that before you lay bill.

1715
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,120
So and now hasn't been a problem this

1716
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,360
year but for every year it's always

1717
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,600
brought up and in the past it's how

1718
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,440
everybody filed their snow exactly where

1719
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,159
the trailer's going to be. hotel, you

1720
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:40,400
have to haul it out. Now, what that's

1721
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,480
going to be an issue down the road, that

1722
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:44,159
trailer, where's that snow going to be

1723
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:44,960
piled?

1724
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,400
>> It's I mean, they're just going to have

1725
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,440
to, you know, probably plow it on, you

1726
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:51,120
know, on down.

1727
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,719
>> I mean, the county puts snow there, too,

1728
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:54,080
from that thought. You know, it's not

1729
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,040
just that, but I mean, it's been an

1730
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,360
issue brought up every year, but I think

1731
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,320
snow

1732
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,560
>> and we always haul it off. Yeah. I mean

1733
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,320
they're they're gonna have you know

1734
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,040
they're gonna have to I mean there is

1735
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,120
quite a bit of space you know I mean um

1736
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,199
but yeah I mean the snow you know

1737
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:15,360
they're going to have to figure out it's

1738
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,920
kind of hotel pushes all their snow

1739
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,480
>> but everybody gets you know I'm just the

1740
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:23,360
hotel talked about has to be hauled off

1741
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,719
and stuff is our snow their snow right

1742
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:35,030
it's all whatever piles

1743
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,400
think we have to do all the snow at the

1744
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,719
clubhouse. It will be a little bit of a

1745
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:40,320
challenge, but really I think we just

1746
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,159
flip the pile instead of putting it the

1747
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:44,320
other corner and we can put it over by

1748
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,880
the power pole on that corner so that

1749
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,719
the cleaning crew can all still back

1750
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:50,719
out. And if anything, you might just

1751
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:52,320
have to come get snow a little bit more.

1752
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,400
But you guys get snow so quick anyways

1753
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,040
that it'll be a little bit the motel

1754
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,159
will be the most affected which by right

1755
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:01,360
they're supposed to keep their snow on

1756
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,960
their property anyways.

1757
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,800
>> So that'll be something we'll address

1758
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,360
them and tell them they can't.

1759
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,639
>> You can tell them they can't.

1760
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:10,960
>> No, I'm just saying. I mean it's if it's

1761
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,719
snowing it's a problem for us.

1762
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:15,840
>> Yeah. I mean it it wouldn't I think

1763
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,239
Harvard did that for him this year. I

1764
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:19,600
mean, it wouldn't be that hard for him

1765
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,760
to come down the alley and put it where

1766
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,840
I think we're going to put the pile like

1767
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,760
we always have. If you're still okay

1768
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,719
with that, but we can make the snow

1769
01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:33,830
work, but we can't.

1770
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,440
» Thank you, buddy.

1771
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,430
>> Thank you, Billy.

1772
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:41,920
» Okay, we'll close this to public

1773
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,560
comment. Any further questions,

1774
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,960
discussions in this regard?

1775
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,990
have a motion in a second. Um

1776
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,520
with the uh proposal as presented with

1777
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,960
the cap of $110,000 to be fully

1778
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,830
functional

1779
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,239
further and close it to a question and

1780
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:10,960
debate. Um, all those in favor of

1781
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:11,679
I

1782
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:15,440
>> IO name.

1783
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:17,520
>> I'm going to go along with it, but I

1784
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,440
really got reservations because I don't

1785
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:21,120
see this staying with you very long for

1786
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:30,800
very long. But I'm I'm going to tell you just like this other deal we got pretty

1787
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,159
bad. The stuff I thought was 920,000.

1788
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:36,400
We're thinking that's 110,000. I

1789
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,480
guarantee you it won't be that. And what

1790
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:40,639
will happen is we'll get into it, come

1791
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:42,159
back and say, "Well, you know, it's only

1792
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,639
going to cost another 35,000 and we're

1793
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:47,280
already into 110." So, what option do we

1794
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,199
have? We're going to okay it. So, if we

1795
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:54,159
stick to it, guarantee it won't get done

1796
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:57,760
at 110 as long way it works in this

1797
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:03,189
world today. Unfortunately,

1798
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:04,960
we found

1799
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:14,629
challenged me accept.

1800
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:15,440
» Okay. Thank you.

1801
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:20,870
>> Thank you, Commissioner.

1802
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,800
Quick. Uh, okay. So, our schedule is as

1803
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,400
follows. Uh, quick break and we have

1804
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:29,760
Mesa

1805
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,679
And

1806
01:26:31,679 --> 01:26:33,679
uh we can bump the procurement policy

1807
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:36,239
into the afternoon because of a time

1808
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,760
we're have an 11:30 lunch commitment for

1809
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,639
we're at the senior center the seniors

1810
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:44,719
there for their

1811
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:49,360
corn beef and cabbage I think

1812
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,800
I'd like to see the senior citizens

1813
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,360
while I'm down here and then um of

1814
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,920
course what we want to do is u we have

1815
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,639
the golf course restaurant prior to that

1816
01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:03,679
10 minute break back here in

1817
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:22,390
11 at 10:48

1818
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:34,229
is Mason. the caring please.

1819
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:36,159
» Thank you chairman commissioners. My

1820
01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:37,360
name is Carla Cely. I've been the

1821
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,920
director of Mesa for 14 years since its

1822
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,159
inception. This is Aaron Casey. She's

1823
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:44,560
also a board member. Um, and also in

1824
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,320
with us we have Stacy Jones who's our

1825
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,960
fair who's one of our little writers and

1826
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,199
we have family here who's also part of

1827
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,679
our Mesa Mesa program and Becky Crow,

1828
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:56,159
sorry I didn't speak [laughter]

1829
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:57,679
Becky Crow is also a new member of our

1830
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:00,080
board and a volunteer.

1831
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,480
Um, just a quick start, Mesa, we started

1832
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:05,280
in June of 2012 um with some startup

1833
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,000
funding given to us by the county. Um,

1834
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,159
we've been a mobile operation from day

1835
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:14,239
one. Um, we have spent our all of our

1836
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:15,760
years bouncing around from private

1837
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,840
property to private property wherever we

1838
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,840
could could have lessons and who was

1839
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,760
gracious enough to let us be there. We

1840
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,520
have always pastured our horses on

1841
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,120
private property as well as least. We

1842
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,400
don't have anything of our own except

1843
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,520
for our horse trailer and our truck. Um,

1844
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,120
and people have been very generous to

1845
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,760
let us let us do that over the years. Um

1846
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,639
and and we had a pre program when we

1847
01:28:36,639 --> 01:28:39,120
were uh able to be down in Boulder River

1848
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,840
Ranch there, but still technically we

1849
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,920
were a mobile mobile operation. Um we

1850
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,120
really appreciate that the rodeo grounds

1851
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,400
and the fairgrounds have allowed us to

1852
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,120
use their facilities. Um there have been

1853
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,280
uh moments where we've been able to be

1854
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,719
kind of gone from our programming type

1855
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:57,760
of other community activities. Um and uh

1856
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,560
there are times when um in our public

1857
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,280
facilities that this

1858
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,360
the the population that we serve,

1859
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,120
there's some sensitivity to sensory

1860
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,199
issues. And so if we are in like a

1861
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:10,800
really busy days like the fairgrounds

1862
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,719
are super busy, it's it's pretty

1863
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:14,719
difficult to have um lessons sometimes

1864
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:16,239
on those days because of the sensory

1865
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,960
issues in the environment.

1866
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,960
Um we have been sustainable financially

1867
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,120
um from day one. We we got the startup

1868
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,760
money and we still have um feel like

1869
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,199
we've done really well. we're trying to

1870
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:30,639
set aside some money so that someday

1871
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:32,960
when we do get our own our own land or

1872
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,400
our own permanent facility that we will

1873
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,120
be able to build an indoor barn. Um but

1874
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:38,719
with the rising prices of the land, we

1875
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:40,320
just feel like we we can't find a

1876
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,000
location near town that's affordable

1877
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,239
right now. And with that, I'll go ahead

1878
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,320
and let you talk.

1879
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,080
>> Yeah. So, thanks Carla. I'm going to

1880
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,760
talk a little bit about the process that

1881
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,920
has led us to come before you today with

1882
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,320
this request. So, I started volunteering

1883
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:55,920
with Mesa shortly after I moved to

1884
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,120
Pineale in 2022.

1885
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,040
And in my first interactions with the

1886
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,360
program, I was so impressed by what

1887
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,360
Carla and the board have built, the

1888
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,520
quality of the program that they have,

1889
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,320
how much Carla has worked to prioritize

1890
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,320
the safety and the learning of all of

1891
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,159
the writers that we have going through

1892
01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:19,120
the program. And that led to some

1893
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,199
conversation about some bigger questions

1894
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:23,520
about how we could better serve the

1895
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,679
individuals in our community throughout

1896
01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:27,440
Subway County who would benefit from

1897
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:30,480
ecoin assisted services. And that led to

1898
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,040
me facilitating a couple of meetings

1899
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,639
with the board in January of 2024

1900
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:39,120
where we talked about the strengths of

1901
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,719
our program, some of the weaknesses that

1902
01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:42,480
we had, some of the opportunities that

1903
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,280
we saw and different partnerships might

1904
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,360
be able to form throughout the county.

1905
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,400
in order to better fulfill our mission.

1906
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,960
And after that meeting, we had a little

1907
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,480
bit more clarity, but we realized there

1908
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,880
was a lot of learning left to do. And so

1909
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,800
Carla and I and the rest of the board

1910
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,960
members really started thinking about

1911
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,120
different models of ecoin assisted

1912
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,880
services facilities throughout the

1913
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,639
country. We've looked at some very

1914
01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:09,120
different models and really come to an

1915
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:10,639
understanding of what it is that our

1916
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:12,639
county needs and our writers need so

1917
01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:13,920
that we don't have to have a wait list

1918
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,600
so that we can serve the individuals who

1919
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,360
would benefit from our services but whom

1920
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,880
we just don't have the capacity for

1921
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,000
right now. And so that led us to just

1922
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,000
kind of this journey of realizing that

1923
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,440
what we really need is a permanent

1924
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:29,360
facility where we can keep our horses

1925
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,080
and offer lessons at the same location.

1926
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,320
And Carla is going to share a little bit

1927
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,080
about the specifics of how our program

1928
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,840
runs and why that would be such a

1929
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,639
gamecher for Mesa. But before I hand it

1930
01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:41,679
back to her, I just want to say how

1931
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:44,400
proud I am of the board and of Carla for

1932
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,560
continuing to prioritize just an

1933
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,800
incredibly high quality safe program

1934
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,800
that adds so much value to the lives of

1935
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,800
our families.

1936
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,120
>> Hi, should I say I missed your

1937
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,239
>> I'm Aaron Hasty.

1938
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:56,719
>> Thank you.

1939
01:31:56,719 --> 01:31:58,719
>> Yeah,

1940
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:00,960
thank you Aaron.

1941
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,600
So the the greatest limiting factor for

1942
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,239
Mesa is that we can only put four horses

1943
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:08,719
in our horse trailer and where we are

1944
01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:10,320
riding right now, we can only ride two

1945
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,679
week in Heinale. Um so that limits us.

1946
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:16,000
We we adhere to the professional

1947
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,840
association of therapeutic horsemanship

1948
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,639
organizational standards and procedures

1949
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:23,199
um to ensure that that we do uphold

1950
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:25,520
safety and procedures and have a quality

1951
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,520
program. Um with that, our horses are

1952
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:28,960
only allowed to have three lessons a

1953
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,800
day. So, if we can only have four

1954
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,480
horses, three lessons a day, that only

1955
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:34,159
allows us to provide lessons for 12

1956
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:35,840
riders a day. So, we're really limited

1957
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,600
in the capacity that what what we can

1958
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,120
have. Um, if we had our horses at the

1959
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,440
same location that we gave our lessons,

1960
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:45,840
that would be a huge game changer. We

1961
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,159
would be able to have 7 to eight head of

1962
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:50,719
horses, we'd be able to ride up to 5

1963
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:53,760
days a week at least, and we could

1964
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,600
almost quadruple the number of people

1965
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:56,960
that we could service with our lesson

1966
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,040
program at that point. And by having a

1967
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,400
permanent facility, we'd be able to keep

1968
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,480
all of our tech

1969
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:04,719
in one place, we'd be able to have

1970
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:07,679
larger variety of saddles, bigger

1971
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:10,080
courses, and and such. And I think we

1972
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,400
would um be able to just really really

1973
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,320
expand our programming and do more for

1974
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,159
our community like we would like to do,

1975
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:17,440
we've been wanting to do, but we just

1976
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:18,560
really can't do it on the truck and

1977
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,679
trailer anymore.

1978
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:23,199
Um,

1979
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:26,480
so we would like to ask the county if we

1980
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:29,600
could have access to use the 20 acres

1981
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,760
south of the 4 barn. We feel like that

1982
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,159
is a really ideal property um,

1983
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:35,679
locationwise. It's really important to

1984
01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:37,040
be close to the schools and close to

1985
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,480
town for transportation purposes and um,

1986
01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:42,239
it would allow us to expand our current

1987
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:44,400
adaptive riding program. Um we did just

1988
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,159
open up our services to adults of small

1989
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:49,840
adults because we don't have the

1990
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,719
capacity to serve a larger um large

1991
01:33:52,719 --> 01:33:54,960
adults right now. Um we have started up

1992
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,320
an ecoin assisted learning program. Um

1993
01:33:58,320 --> 01:33:59,600
that's something that we can get off the

1994
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:00,880
ground. And another thing that I think

1995
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,159
is really important. It's something that

1996
01:34:02,159 --> 01:34:03,600
I've been wanting to do for years and

1997
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,920
years, but I feel like there's a huge

1998
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,920
need in this community and is that that

1999
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,920
is a um a workplacement program for the

2000
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,600
young adults. um like such as Yian and

2001
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,520
be able to provide an opportunity for young adults to be able to come in

2002
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,400
and work at the barn, do chores, and I

2003
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,280
think that's I I've heard a resounding

2004
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,880
need for that within the community over

2005
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,080
the years. And that's something that we

2006
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,229
could we could add to our programming.

2007
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:35,520
Um in email communications with uh I

2008
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,040
believe it's Lindsay Dip, who was the

2009
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,960
lawyer for Pure West, she agreed. I have

2010
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,000
a email here that um Mesa does fit

2011
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,440
within the deed restrictions of that

2012
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,280
land and it would be a county

2013
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,320
commissioner's decision from there on.

2014
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,560
As a final thought, um we've been very fortunate to have such a generous

2015
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,159
community and individuals that want to

2016
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,239
keep Mesa Mesa going and they've been

2017
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:58,400
working in the shadows. Um we've

2018
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,239
survived on borrowed property, borrowed

2019
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:02,639
land, borrowed horses, borrowed

2020
01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:04,800
equipment, and operating out of the home

2021
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,320
office. And I think it's time that we

2022
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,719
need to think about succession planning.

2023
01:35:08,719 --> 01:35:12,000
Um I'm not going to be here forever. Um

2024
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,000
I've put 15 years into this program

2025
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,159
right now and I don't want to see Mesa

2026
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:19,520
go away when I go away. And so I feel

2027
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,520
it's really important that we that we

2028
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,679
start having our own permanent facility

2029
01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:26,800
so that we Mesa can continue on.

2030
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,199
Um with that you guys have any

2031
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:32,870
questions?

2032
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,360
Are there any questions from the

2033
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:40,870
individuals here?

2034
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,040
» So with the permanent home with you, it

2035
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,960
would allow you to have capacity for

2036
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,520
bigger horses where we could get back to

2037
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,480
where ocean the larger kids that would

2038
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:52,480
be able to drive again.

2039
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:54,560
>> Yes.

2040
01:35:54,560 --> 01:36:00,229
>> Question from online.

2041
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:03,199
No comment.

2042
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:05,600
So, um, what we're asking is to be able

2043
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,719
to use that, um,

2044
01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:10,400
we'd like to ask the county, if this is

2045
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,520
something that you'd be willing to do,

2046
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,280
if you would the road into that area and

2047
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,600
then we we would provide all the fencing

2048
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,440
in the pastures, then most of our stuff

2049
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:22,239
would be portable in case that somebody

2050
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:24,880
some generous donor out there did want

2051
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,480
to give us our own piece of property.

2052
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,239
Um, we would be able to take everything

2053
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:31,040
we had and move it along with us. Um but

2054
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,679
we we would really like to be able to

2055
01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:35,760
have make this consider this a permanent

2056
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,520
field um for Mesa. It would really be

2057
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,840
important to I believe

2058
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:52,790
no

2059
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,480
there was a confusion

2060
01:36:56,480 --> 01:37:00,950
is

2061
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,560
looking for an investment in the county

2062
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,280
of $50,000.

2063
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,960
>> That would be for improvements to the

2064
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,320
property that the county would benefit

2065
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,080
from if Mesa were to ever leave the

2066
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,400
property. So that's for water, power,

2067
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,679
and um the road improvements.

2068
01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:18,239
>> Am I saying this? So you're looking for

2069
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:19,920
597,

2070
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,280
>> right? Correct.

2071
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,560
>> Is that people like it drawn to the

2072
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,239
worst case scenario?

2073
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:29,440
>> That's correct. And then pure west uh is

2074
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:32,870
going to

2075
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,840
give us approval of your being on the

2076
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,600
property. I don't know how it works with

2077
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,600
that but

2078
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,360
so you must have that. I don't see it.

2079
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,400
>> I do. I mean I have a copy here.

2080
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:46,639
Great.

2081
01:37:46,639 --> 01:37:57,510
>> Thank you.

2082
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:02,550
Sorry,

2083
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,560
I did have a phone call from a Dennis

2084
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,480
Schroer supporting everything that you

2085
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:10,080
did. Um, actually requesting that one

2086
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,199
time that puts to go up on top of the

2087
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:15,360
hill

2088
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,040
there.

2089
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,320
I thought that was the right kind of

2090
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,927
>> we accept that property. We sure would

2091
01:38:22,927 --> 01:38:25,750
[laughter]

2092
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,790
meet.

2093
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,880
» And I know this young cowboy right here,

2094
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,119
what a great young man he is. Been out

2095
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:36,800
to see me for past four years.

2096
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:41,040
Does a great job. And he's actually

2097
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,840
a great great figure. He has an example

2098
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,040
of what you do. Everyone, thank you so

2099
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,040
very much.

2100
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,000
That's the purpose of of me

2101
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,960
getting individuals that clearly was.

2102
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:59,189
So, thank you.

2103
01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:00,159
» Questions, comments?

2104
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:02,080
>> I got a comment. We've known you a long

2105
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,360
time, Carl. Anybody has I know it's a

2106
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,360
great, wonderful program. No problem

2107
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,040
with that, but you know, it's all down

2108
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,560
to money, okay? You know what I mean?

2109
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,320
and we justify for the taxpayers the

2110
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:21,600
50,000. Okay. And that's you know

2111
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,080
that's the only thing that I see that

2112
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,080
with

2113
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,990
my biggest concern

2114
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:35,910
and your concerns really good

2115
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,440
questions.

2116
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:40,400
I guess I couple things I've been

2117
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,040
involved with this through the years

2118
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,280
whether it's pasture horses are offered

2119
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,600
an arena I think this group would thrive

2120
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,159
and be able to grow and obviously offer

2121
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:51,920
more services if they could just find a

2122
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,920
landing spot

2123
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,880
I struggle with 50,000 I' I' I'd like to

2124
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,760
ask one more favor if this were to go

2125
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:01,520
through there's some dirt work for an

2126
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,679
arena and the road work I mean is that

2127
01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:05,280
something that the county could take on

2128
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,880
we wouldn't add

2129
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,840
Do you guys tell me do it? I'll do it.

2130
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,840
>> I I'd rather support something like that

2131
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,239
than throw out another

2132
01:40:14,239 --> 01:40:15,520
50,000.

2133
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,880
>> Well, I'm sorry. And that proposal, the

2134
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,760
way that is out, I guess that was our

2135
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,960
intentions was that that most of that as

2136
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,199
far as the road base and electricity is

2137
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:29,520
pretty much there. Um, it's right there

2138
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,000
by the 4 office. But as far as the dirt

2139
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,280
work and all that, that is something

2140
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,679
that really like the county already has

2141
01:40:35,679 --> 01:40:38,480
all the machinery and equipment and

2142
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:41,119
operators to to do. So we feel like this

2143
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:43,040
is what we are asking is only

2144
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,400
improvement of that land that will

2145
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,679
remain that way and it isn't won't ever

2146
01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:49,760
be taken away from your property. It's

2147
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,800
just getting approved which I in our

2148
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:59,040
minds it's a pretty reasonably

2149
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,000
pretty reasonable request because we we

2150
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,040
have um you know as far as like the

2151
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,560
arena and things like that like we can

2152
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:11,920
find donors and partial donations for that as well. Um can I talk for a

2153
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:18,790
second?

2154
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:23,199
U my name is Stacy Jones. Um yeah, and

2155
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:26,000
it wasn't we weren't asking like you

2156
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,520
guys to give us $50,000

2157
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,239
that it would maybe take that if you

2158
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:35,280
helped us put it into like fixing the

2159
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,000
road and and doing those things and like

2160
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,600
with the the water, the electricity.

2161
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,520
Yeah. getting already that what's out

2162
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,080
there, but over to where we could use

2163
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,400
them. It's we didn't we didn't want you

2164
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,119
to hand us $50,000. It just it might

2165
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:53,760
would take some like that, but you know,

2166
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:59,199
with help and and that to to get that um

2167
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:00,800
to make the road in there a little bit

2168
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,440
better, safer, you know, those things.

2169
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,800
So, we didn't want a $50,000 check. We

2170
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:11,360
just need that extra to help us make it

2171
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:16,000
so it's usable for us. So yeah,

2172
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,639
>> same

2173
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:21,679
the question for develop case in regards

2174
01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:23,440
to liability insurance. I would presume

2175
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:26,400
that you would need to or have something

2176
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,760
namely as traditionally for liability.

2177
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,119
>> Yes. And we've already do that with

2178
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:33,679
fairgrounds as well. want to make sure

2179
01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:35,280
that we learn that they have

2180
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:41,350
>> absolutely sure

2181
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,199
» yes commissioner so have you got bids on

2182
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,320
what the wel cost and the power company

2183
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,119
is prohibited now rather you know where

2184
01:42:51,119 --> 01:42:52,320
they you're going to have to have your

2185
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,840
own box out there probably junction box

2186
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,199
you know where it comes from the other

2187
01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:00,159
place you can't have them both on one I

2188
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:02,800
mean I've been hearing people they just

2189
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,159
law and what they're charging to run,

2190
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:07,760
you know, power lines and stuff, you

2191
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,239
know, I mean, it's like four or 5,000

2192
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:13,199
for the boxes, you know. So, and you

2193
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:14,800
haven't done any bids on what the well

2194
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,199
would be or what you know where you

2195
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:18,400
would would be setting stuff. Have you

2196
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,960
looked at it how you might set it at the

2197
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,960
corral where they would be out there

2198
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,239
now?

2199
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,159
>> Yes. Yes, we have. Like, and that's part

2200
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:27,920
of the drawing that's that's in that

2201
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,639
proposal. It would just be well if I had

2202
01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:33,760
the shape that the the property is

2203
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,920
shaped in like a long triangle and um it

2204
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,679
would be the lower half of that pretty

2205
01:43:39,679 --> 01:43:41,199
much. and 237

2206
01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:43,040
>> and the only entrance would be there by

2207
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,119
the 4 cuz that's you know we're going to

2208
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:46,560
run into a problem there because we just

2209
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:50,159
spent 100,000 on electronic gate you

2210
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:54,320
know so you're going to have to

2211
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,159
be problem with that gate and unless you

2212
01:43:58,159 --> 01:43:59,760
could put in a different entrance

2213
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,800
somewhere else because but hey I just

2214
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,040
hope you I'd like to see some bids of

2215
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,080
what you can actually get that D

2216
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,239
>> we can do

2217
01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:11,920
Um the last time we had a water well

2218
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:16,719
drug um personally was a $15,000 well

2219
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,080
um

2220
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,080
>> I don't know if necessarily we have to

2221
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,679
have a water well or if we could tie

2222
01:44:21,679 --> 01:44:23,520
into the water line for 4 office it's

2223
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:28,470
already there

2224
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:29,679
take so much of it

2225
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:31,760
>> doesn't because all we really need is

2226
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,159
stock water just for some stock takes it

2227
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:38,070
doesn't have to be

2228
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,119
We can do that.

2229
01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:40,960
>> So, so Mr.

2230
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:42,800
and

2231
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,520
so all

2232
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:58,149
in

2233
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:01,590
it's true

2234
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:06,709
about that

2235
01:45:06,719 --> 01:45:08,800
when I look down at the total investment

2236
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,480
instead in the center of one great

2237
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:16,709
building

2238
01:45:16,719 --> 01:45:21,360
and that's the preparation of the ground

2239
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:27,270
because from my experience

2240
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,600
like this

2241
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,320
that's going to have to go away or

2242
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,639
should mostly especially where they

2243
01:45:34,639 --> 01:45:37,119
didn't have their facilities and that's

2244
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:39,679
not an easy heal.

2245
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:43,199
Well, Russian beat up

2246
01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:45,199
and you can't do that. But then when he

2247
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:49,760
leaves stops everybody like this

2248
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,639
and now we can

2249
01:45:52,639 --> 01:45:57,350
so

2250
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,719
at that kind of situation I would be

2251
01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:04,000
normally for me

2252
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:05,600
somewhere.

2253
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,760
First thing I do beat that brush. But I

2254
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,480
got to go in and kind of

2255
01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:13,520
stir it up so I can get reinstall

2256
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,520
sometime

2257
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:19,920
brush down there.

2258
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,199
Then I've got to go back in and I'll see

2259
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:26,719
if I don't even have a nice clean piece

2260
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:28,159
of property. I don't know whether you've

2261
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:32,080
talked 28 acres to just enormous but but

2262
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,719
that certainly done that's not an easy

2263
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:37,830
deal

2264
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,560
when

2265
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,679
I first heard something about this

2266
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:49,040
there I wonder were you going to be able

2267
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:54,000
to get the authorization to do so you

2268
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,119
>> yes

2269
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:57,199
>> that's what this letter is

2270
01:46:57,199 --> 01:46:59,920
I didn't see that.

2271
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:09,270
So

2272
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:13,430
now [laughter]

2273
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:19,430
they just pass.

2274
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:20,960
» So

2275
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,880
couple years ago

2276
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:24,719
three or something like that. I'd get

2277
01:47:24,719 --> 01:47:28,960
back up with the punch line.

2278
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:36,870
I live with a young man young

2279
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:41,040
business that I said he got out of that.

2280
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,800
But he and I had come to an agreement

2281
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,760
that hey if it's expensive project we

2282
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,920
probably done that cost a lot of money.

2283
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,080
I'm still inclined to do that in my

2284
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,320
business.

2285
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,400
I come to

2286
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,880
whatever I can do to help on a

2287
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,880
fancy project with the equipment that

2288
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,360
I've got without going out and finding

2289
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,239
something else. I'd certainly be

2290
01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:11,119
coming in and doing them, but

2291
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:17,030
you're going to have to have things

2292
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,080
what your product is going to look like.

2293
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,080
where

2294
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,880
all the way around.

2295
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:29,990
So those things happen

2296
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400
but not tired of closure. At least I

2297
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:33,199
haven't seen it.

2298
01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:36,159
>> No, that's that's it. Um it's going to

2299
01:48:36,159 --> 01:48:45,990
be the back pasture turnout and then

2300
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,159
» yes.

2301
01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:50,800
>> Yeah. No, I see I see that. What I'm

2302
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,920
saying is this is the 28.

2303
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,920
>> No, it's just a fraction of the 28. This

2304
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,199
is a very small portion and the rest

2305
01:48:57,199 --> 01:48:59,199
doesn't

2306
01:48:59,199 --> 01:49:06,229
have the balance 28. [clears throat]

2307
01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:07,760
» It's already fenced. I mean the

2308
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,159
perimeter it would just be say this is

2309
01:49:10,159 --> 01:49:12,800
where the 4 office is and this is Hagen

2310
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:13,600
science down here.

2311
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,600
>> Yeah, but it's fenced. I'd have to go

2312
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,199
look at again. It seems to be like the

2313
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:19,199
expensive part

2314
01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:20,480
>> and I could be wrong.

2315
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:21,360
>> That's fine.

2316
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:22,960
>> No, it's not. If you got horses you want

2317
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,520
to take care of, I can guarantee you you

2318
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,480
can

2319
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:30,880
>> burn your pastors.

2320
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,600
I mean over time wonderful, but that's

2321
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,679
what they're living in.

2322
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:38,159
>> If you have that's fine if that's what

2323
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:44,310
you that's what you want to do.

2324
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,560
out of company horse.

2325
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,080
>> We have to be pretty selective about the

2326
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:49,840
horses we take. And one of that those

2327
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,440
reasons is because we've had to pastor

2328
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:52,880
them in a lot of different settings and

2329
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:54,480
so they have to be respectful of a lot

2330
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:59,830
of different types of fences.

2331
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:05,920
» Anyway, I'm part of the project. I just don't want to

2332
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,239
like a lot of projects quite you can

2333
01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:10,990
actually choose and not be able to

2334
01:50:10,990 --> 01:50:11,520
[clears throat]

2335
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:17,600
get the project that you want then

2336
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,960
back to the property Sam is that a sale

2337
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,199
or lease to them how is that

2338
01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:24,880
>> so that that property the whole history

2339
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,280
of that property was owned by QEP

2340
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:27,840
>> yes

2341
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,199
>> QP donated that property to the county

2342
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:33,360
so county fully owns that property to

2343
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,679
put a deed restriction on the future

2344
01:50:35,679 --> 01:50:38,159
that property would be used for the use

2345
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:43,360
of sub. That's how that piece um reads.

2346
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,480
Carl reached out to our our land

2347
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:49,360
department as

2348
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,280
well

2349
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,480
um fall within that restriction that you

2350
01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:58,310
put on that property

2351
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,560
and

2352
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,520
yes it does.

2353
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,280
>> But we own the property. There is

2354
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:06,880
nothing

2355
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,040
more. I mean, if we wanted to do

2356
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,639
whatever we wanted to do with that

2357
01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:14,080
property, we could

2358
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,400
know that there's a deep restriction on

2359
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,600
reach out to us that their thoughts on

2360
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,080
it

2361
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,310
is required.

2362
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,080
» Back in just a second.

2363
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:29,920
>> Was my statement correct? We own that

2364
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,840
property altogether. There is a deed

2365
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,760
restriction. the deed restriction on

2366
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,159
that property is that it should be shall

2367
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:38,159
be used for the use of Salt Lake County

2368
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:41,760
when it was given to the county by QEP.

2369
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,719
Um Carla reached out to Pure West above

2370
01:51:44,719 --> 01:51:46,639
and beyond just to see if that was in

2371
01:51:46,639 --> 01:51:49,840
spirit of the way they read it. Pure

2372
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,320
West response was yes that was within

2373
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:56,320
spirit of that restriction but we own

2374
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,239
that. There is nothing I mean if we

2375
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:00,560
wanted whatever we wanted to do in the

2376
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,480
county we could do. Is that the

2377
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:04,480
restriction correct?

2378
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:06,639
>> Mr. Chairman, Commissioner White. Uh

2379
01:52:06,639 --> 01:52:09,040
yes, that is correct. And so the with

2380
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,000
the restriction the dominant estate is

2381
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,280
Q. So if Q is saying we're good with it

2382
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,520
and we're fine with it, then yes, the

2383
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,040
county has the authority to operate in

2384
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,000
that space.

2385
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,639
>> Okay. So let me ask this question also

2386
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:26,800
in conjunction to that.

2387
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:31,750
So

2388
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:36,560
if I'm leasing the piece of property, so

2389
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,960
to speak, I don't own it, but I lease

2390
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,199
it. If anything I put in the ground

2391
01:52:41,199 --> 01:52:43,040
stays with that property, when I move

2392
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,360
off, it stays there. If I want to take

2393
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,599
it with me, it's got to be portable. So

2394
01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:50,400
I can scoot it around and they lift me.

2395
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,560
Is there would there be a concern here

2396
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,480
if they build a structure a program

2397
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:57,920
structure that down the road if this

2398
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,320
commission is not sitting there they say

2399
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,320
hey you guys haven't done what we think

2400
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,080
you should do we're going to boo you got

2401
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:10,159
that property county

2402
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,960
own the property is that correct or not

2403
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,760
chairman Bernard commissioner Vicky uh

2404
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:19,280
the way that that would work would be

2405
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:20,880
depending in the language in the lease

2406
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,960
itself. And certainly in the event that

2407
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,599
the county were to authorize this use on

2408
01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:28,639
the property, uh we would certainly have

2409
01:53:28,639 --> 01:53:31,119
an agreement in place that detailed all

2410
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:34,560
of that all of those details.

2411
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,119
>> Okay. Yeah, fair enough there. But if

2412
01:53:37,119 --> 01:53:38,719
you've got something permanent in the

2413
01:53:38,719 --> 01:53:40,159
property, it's a little difficult to

2414
01:53:40,159 --> 01:53:41,440
take that.

2415
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:44,480
>> It's Commissioner Bernard and

2416
01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:46,480
Commissioner Victory. Yes. But the

2417
01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:49,040
contract will govern that. And so, yes,

2418
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:52,880
even a permanent structure can be uh can

2419
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,880
be moved. Yes, it's harder. Uh but I do

2420
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:56,000
believe they said they were going to try

2421
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,840
and do stuff temporarily in case they

2422
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,159
were able to obtain their own property.

2423
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:01,760
But we would certainly make sure that it

2424
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,159
was buttoned up, bells and suspenders so

2425
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,400
that there was no questions down the

2426
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:07,760
road in the event that a future

2427
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:09,840
commission needed uh that land for

2428
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,199
another purpose or in the event that

2429
01:54:11,199 --> 01:54:13,679
these folks voluntarily opted to to

2430
01:54:13,679 --> 01:54:16,239
renew themselves. Well, the only reason

2431
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:19,280
I bring that up is because

2432
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,840
she's invested what 15 years of this

2433
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:26,080
program. Yeah, that takes dedication.

2434
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:27,599
It's

2435
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:29,840
her compliment.

2436
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:34,709
So when you go,

2437
01:54:34,719 --> 01:54:36,719
the next person steps in there, are they

2438
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:38,480
going to have that dedication there and

2439
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:39,679
lies the issue?

2440
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:41,119
>> Absolutely.

2441
01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:54,870
>> You you you think people dedication.

2442
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,760
» Well,

2443
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,159
>> we're already in favor of helping you

2444
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:02,880
however we can. How's that?

2445
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,040
>> Thank you. No, and we have started the

2446
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,599
succession planning process. So we are

2447
01:55:07,599 --> 01:55:10,960
finding that person and we are

2448
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,320
make sure that that makes it

2449
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,360
organizational they can do that as well.

2450
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,119
>> Are there any questions comments from

2451
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:19,840
the board and further discussion? Let's

2452
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,599
go. I'll

2453
01:55:21,599 --> 01:55:25,360
save mine. Um so when I look at this car

2454
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,760
I'm from the future of Mesa. I'll be a

2455
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:31,119
huge supporter of Mesa. Um when I when I

2456
01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:32,880
look back we just had a meeting a couple

2457
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,800
meetings ago. We had another great

2458
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,639
organization. There's lots of great

2459
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:39,040
organizations, nonprofit organizations

2460
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,920
come and ask us if we would file a road

2461
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,920
all winter long so they can continue to

2462
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,800
run their great organization which uh

2463
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,040
benefits the county.

2464
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:52,320
This I I look at it as you know what

2465
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,199
this was something that the the 4 could

2466
01:55:55,199 --> 01:55:58,639
use the pony club could use every youth

2467
01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:01,679
that question thing could use. I look at

2468
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:04,719
it maybe maybe I could get behind it,

2469
01:56:04,719 --> 01:56:07,679
but we're it's it's kind of to me feels

2470
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:09,280
like we're picking the winners and

2471
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,080
losers of all of the great organizations

2472
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,480
within the county and using taxpayer

2473
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,119
funding to pick those winners and

2474
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:20,000
losers. Um like I said, I'm a huge

2475
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,000
supporter. Don't get me wrong. I just

2476
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,000
can't get behind

2477
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,239
um us investing money to for this

2478
01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:31,360
organization as presented today. If this

2479
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:34,639
was like I said something that included

2480
01:56:34,639 --> 01:56:37,760
all of the youth in sub county um had

2481
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,960
access to a facility out there probably

2482
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,159
kind of like the fairgrounds I probably

2483
01:56:44,159 --> 01:56:46,480
supported at that point but that's my

2484
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,880
thoughts. Thank you. I can offer some

2485
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,280
response to contextualization of that.

2486
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,560
Um, so I think one of the the things

2487
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:55,920
that is really important about our

2488
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,400
program is that we do have to have a

2489
01:56:58,400 --> 01:56:59,920
little bit of control over the

2490
01:56:59,920 --> 01:57:01,280
environment. Carlos spoke some of the

2491
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,199
challenges that we've had on a busy day

2492
01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:05,520
at the fairgrounds where because of the

2493
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,840
populations that we're serving, it it's

2494
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,080
just really crucial that we can provide

2495
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,719
some sort of sensory boundary around

2496
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:13,920
what our writers are going to

2497
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:18,080
experience. And I would note that the 4

2498
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,880
has operated an exclusive facility on

2499
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,280
QEP property I think for well over a

2500
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,920
decade at this point. If the county

2501
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,840
commissioners wanted to build a shared

2502
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,599
ecoin facility in the north end of the

2503
01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:31,760
county, I as a personal equestrian would

2504
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,960
certainly be in big support of that. I

2505
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,199
think if you want to have a facility

2506
01:57:37,199 --> 01:57:38,400
that could meet all of the different

2507
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,480
needs of different youth organizations,

2508
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,159
that's certainly up to you. But I think

2509
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:43,280
that would be something that would be a

2510
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,679
county choice and a county investment.

2511
01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:48,320
Um Mesa is asking for I think a pretty

2512
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,239
minimal investment of improvements to

2513
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:51,599
the property that will stay with the

2514
01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:54,239
property if we were to ever leave. And I

2515
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:58,080
think that we would certainly be open to

2516
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,760
discussions about how we could lease the

2517
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,040
infrastructure that we're going to

2518
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:03,280
provide to other youth equestrian

2519
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:04,719
participants and with other

2520
01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:06,159
organizations if that was something that

2521
01:58:06,159 --> 01:58:09,840
they determined that they needed.

2522
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,159
comments really good. Um I understand

2523
01:58:12,159 --> 01:58:14,800
your concern with um trying to serve the

2524
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:16,960
biggest population serve all the kids.

2525
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,360
Um I guess what we are also looking at

2526
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,119
is a lot of these kids don't have that

2527
01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:23,040
opportunity to be part of they don't

2528
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,440
have the opportunity to be part of um

2529
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:28,639
hockey or ice skating or just because of

2530
01:58:28,639 --> 01:58:30,320
the disabilities that they do or may not

2531
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,080
have. I mean, given my daughter, she

2532
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:33,520
looks like, you know, she'd be part of

2533
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:34,880
anything and she is very much a part of

2534
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,719
everything, but there's a history behind

2535
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:38,159
there like, especially with her with her

2536
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:40,320
heart condition that she may not always

2537
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,320
be able to participate in school sports

2538
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,400
in all of these different activities.

2539
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,679
And this is an opportunity and a a group

2540
01:58:47,679 --> 01:58:49,599
that is trying to serve that population

2541
01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:52,080
that is restricted from a lot of the

2542
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:55,360
other offerings of the county and the

2543
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,679
school districts. Um, so I can

2544
01:58:57,679 --> 01:58:58,960
understand that there's a concern that

2545
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,360
we are just serving a certain

2546
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,760
population, but it's a population that I

2547
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,360
feel like we need to support because

2548
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,080
they can be restricted in so many other

2549
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,159
avenues within the county. I mean, we

2550
01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:12,719
try to be inclusive, but we are limited,

2551
01:59:12,719 --> 01:59:15,040
especially when it comes to dealing with

2552
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:16,719
animals and getting out of the physical

2553
01:59:16,719 --> 01:59:19,760
work and having that opportunity. So, I

2554
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,080
mean, I guess that's where I stand as a

2555
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:26,080
parent and even as a member of I mean, I

2556
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,920
drive the special ed bus right now. I

2557
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,639
mean, this is a huge part of what I do

2558
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:32,400
just as a parent and as a community

2559
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:36,400
member. These are children and adults

2560
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:40,000
now that we're offering a huge

2561
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,000
opportunity that they do not get to

2562
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,159
participate in a lot of different areas

2563
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:45,840
like 4, like hockey, like what I've

2564
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,080
said. So, I think it's well worth that

2565
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:50,639
we kind of get behind this in some way

2566
01:59:50,639 --> 01:59:52,320
or another. I like what Aaron has

2567
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:53,760
suggested. Even if there's a way that

2568
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,239
we're providing and is providing the

2569
01:59:56,239 --> 01:59:57,599
structures, the infrastructures, the

2570
01:59:57,599 --> 02:00:00,320
fencing that maybe we can share that and

2571
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:02,480
lease that with other

2572
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:06,880
groups. But again, it's the priority if

2573
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,800
we've provided that to give that safe

2574
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,480
environment, that sensory free

2575
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,199
environment. um you know that would be

2576
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:16,239
taking some moving around and I think I

2577
02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:18,560
think the NASA is open to looking at

2578
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:21,679
that but we do have considerations with

2579
02:00:21,679 --> 02:00:23,199
the population that they're trying to

2580
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:25,119
serve.

2581
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:27,360
>> Sure. And I get that right. I get that

2582
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,280
uh

2583
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:30,960
yeah like I said I'm a huge supporter of

2584
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,239
Mesa and I get that there's a need for

2585
02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:37,360
it. Right. there's going to be 10 other

2586
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,320
organizations showing up saying the

2587
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,520
exact same story of why we won't find

2588
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,599
some to land and let them build a

2589
02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:48,000
facility um where they can run theirs

2590
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,000
too. So I'm worried about setting a

2591
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,920
precedent for all organizations that are

2592
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,520
involved in this county for all

2593
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:57,599
different aspects of those

2594
02:00:57,599 --> 02:01:00,880
organizations. Like I said just two or

2595
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:03,119
three meetings ago, we had a great youth

2596
02:01:03,119 --> 02:01:06,159
organization and wanted us to file road

2597
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:08,239
winners so they could continue to use

2598
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:10,000
that.

2599
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:14,000
We at that time told them no. Um so I I

2600
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,960
look at it more as

2601
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,599
yeah we could come up with a plan that

2602
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:22,159
allin

2603
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:26,320
users use ecoin users an organization

2604
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:32,310
use. I'll get behind it.

2605
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:34,080
» Mr. Chairman, [clears throat]

2606
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:36,719
so I'm not quite as restrictive as

2607
02:01:36,719 --> 02:01:38,159
Commissioner Light and I'll tell you

2608
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:42,080
why. Because I earlier said,

2609
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,239
I've watched the smiles. I've watched

2610
02:01:44,239 --> 02:01:45,840
the parents of the kids that are

2611
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:49,040
involved in this program.

2612
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:52,719
and granted sort of a specific thing

2613
02:01:52,719 --> 02:02:01,280
because of a specific need,

2614
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,984
And

2615
02:02:02,984 --> 02:02:06,000
[clears throat] I I I see these

2616
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,159
the advancement of some of the young

2617
02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:10,239
people that I've known has had some

2618
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:16,719
issues and basic has brought them step up be more involved in the

2619
02:02:16,719 --> 02:02:21,109
community.

2620
02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:25,119
when you set a precedent,

2621
02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:26,880
that's what this is. And I don't think

2622
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,400
that's what this is. I think this is

2623
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,480
making something good happen in the

2624
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:36,870
community.

2625
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:40,560
We've got a lot of places in Southern

2626
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,840
County for other horse oriented groups

2627
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,159
to use

2628
02:02:46,159 --> 02:02:49,040
the fairgrounds. We've heard about

2629
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,880
we've got the rodeo grounds up here.

2630
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:52,639
I'll guarantee you we've got a lot of

2631
02:02:52,639 --> 02:02:56,000
kids use that facility. You may say

2632
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,719
included in the past. There's two

2633
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:01,920
different arenas up there. There's

2634
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,880
places to park

2635
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:10,159
and you're not being forced to move your

2636
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:13,840
program to allow someone else. That's

2637
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,080
because is I see one of the issues that

2638
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:20,159
would become that would come here is if

2639
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:23,280
it was spoken up because Mason is

2640
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:24,960
specific.

2641
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,119
You'd have to have and I watch the

2642
02:03:27,119 --> 02:03:31,750
budget from the outside

2643
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:35,119
days when two kids show up, days when

2644
02:03:35,119 --> 02:03:37,199
six kids show up when they're in that

2645
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:40,560
time slot.

2646
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:42,639
And if that thing was opened up to where

2647
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:47,040
you could have all horse groups use it,

2648
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,199
those kind of time slots would just go

2649
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:53,679
away. They would have to to to

2650
02:03:53,679 --> 02:03:57,920
address the other uses. So

2651
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,960
I expect if I said it earlier

2652
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,280
as a commissioner, I'll have to support

2653
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:04,800
this.

2654
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,599
as an individual I support it because

2655
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:09,679
I've seen so

2656
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:12,320
things that occur out of it.

2657
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:14,400
So even

2658
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,480
sitting next to one another he has a

2659
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:20,550
cake we have

2660
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:22,560
I think

2661
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,080
outcome

2662
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:28,000
very different way

2663
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:29,920
I guess

2664
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,679
I don't see Mesa

2665
02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:36,960
their own facility

2666
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,960
being underest

2667
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,599
I just don't see that happening if there

2668
02:04:43,599 --> 02:04:45,840
was never another place to go. I could

2669
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:52,390
understand perhaps but but that's not

2670
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:55,040
faculty

2671
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:56,320
that can take care of some of those

2672
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:59,760
other needs that we do

2673
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,159
the city

2674
02:05:02,159 --> 02:05:07,830
for me at least I I'll support it.

2675
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:09,920
» Are there questions? I'll just bring one

2676
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,000
other thing doesn't mount anything else.

2677
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,239
We all support 100%. You know that

2678
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:16,560
there's not a question at all. But it's

2679
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:20,159
like we got 60 acres there cemetery.

2680
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:22,960
Okay. They need it. You know, do they

2681
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:25,040
look at this and say, well, if you're

2682
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:27,760
giving land away for other uses

2683
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:30,560
property, you know, it puts us in a bad

2684
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,719
position. Well, we have vacant property

2685
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:35,360
and other things are needed. You know, I

2686
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,760
mean, that's an important thing. And you

2687
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,920
know, I don't I mean, it's this is a

2688
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,320
tough one. I wish

2689
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:44,000
had a little more time to think on it

2690
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:46,320
cuz I uh

2691
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,040
I don't I wish I knew kind of got the

2692
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,280
estimates of what

2693
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:54,400
50 if it's 23 or you know, some of those

2694
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:57,199
things are kind of open-ended here, but

2695
02:05:57,199 --> 02:05:59,040
there's no question we all supported

2696
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:02,080
100%. That's not the question here.

2697
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:03,520
>> I'd argue a cemetery is a little more

2698
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,239
permanent than what we're proposing.

2699
02:06:06,239 --> 02:06:07,679
It's needed. They don't have any spots

2700
02:06:07,679 --> 02:06:10,719
here. Okay. They're out of spots. So,

2701
02:06:10,719 --> 02:06:13,199
you know, maybe

2702
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:14,960
that's a very important thing, too. I

2703
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:16,719
mean, you're a long ways away from I'm

2704
02:06:16,719 --> 02:06:19,679
nice. You know, put my ashes up there

2705
02:06:19,679 --> 02:06:22,239
along the road with you. I don't know

2706
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:24,560
just part of what things we face. Okay.

2707
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:27,760
I mean,

2708
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:29,119
so

2709
02:06:29,119 --> 02:06:30,480
>> I I guess I'd like to add that this

2710
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,880
arenus is a pretty long size that we've

2711
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,599
proposed. um that's within our budget

2712
02:06:35,599 --> 02:06:39,119
and able to enable able to do. Um and

2713
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:41,760
again uh we've been very fortunate to be

2714
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,320
able to to use the rodeo grounds. Um and

2715
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:45,760
we share that with 4 and we share that

2716
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:46,960
with public club and we share the

2717
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,960
equipment up there with them. Um

2718
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,119
nobody maintains that. Nobody takes care

2719
02:06:53,119 --> 02:06:54,400
of it. Nobody cleans up after

2720
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:56,560
themselves. And so having a shared

2721
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:58,800
facility uh go out there and I'd have to

2722
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,280
go clean on the horse poop up prior to

2723
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,719
us using the equipment and or being able

2724
02:07:04,719 --> 02:07:08,880
to use the arena. And uh so if we're

2725
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,440
going to put the money into a into a

2726
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:13,119
project like this and to have it be our

2727
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:14,639
facility, it's going to be very very

2728
02:07:14,639 --> 02:07:16,239
wellkept and we're going to expect the

2729
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:17,920
same high standards if we were able to

2730
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,400
share it with somebody else. So we would

2731
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:22,719
entertain being able to share this with

2732
02:07:22,719 --> 02:07:25,520
4 or pony club. equestrian groups

2733
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,520
potentially, but it's going to be it

2734
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:31,119
would be I guess under I would I would

2735
02:07:31,119 --> 02:07:32,719
ask that it could be under our control

2736
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:35,840
and under so when we do have days off

2737
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,239
then we could offer that open to to the

2738
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:40,880
4 or the pony club um under our terms

2739
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,840
where things are taken care of and kept.

2740
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,599
I feel like that's a really really

2741
02:07:45,599 --> 02:07:48,000
important factor and and if you get into

2742
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,159
where everything is, you know, similar

2743
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:51,520
like fairgrounds, then you're going to

2744
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:52,400
have somebody that's going to have to

2745
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:55,840
take care of it. um as a group group

2746
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,320
thing and I don't I don't feel like this

2747
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:02,000
would be a situation where

2748
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:03,280
I should have to take care of everybody

2749
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:06,000
else's messes type of a deal if we were

2750
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,560
given this opportunity to do this. But

2751
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:11,360
um and this is an outdoor arena right

2752
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:13,520
now constructed as an outdoor arena and

2753
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:16,239
hopefully potentially we'd be able to to

2754
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:19,199
build an indoor arena um cover that uh

2755
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:21,599
which would be great if we had if we

2756
02:08:21,599 --> 02:08:22,880
were given the approval to do something

2757
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:24,320
like that. But otherwise all the other

2758
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:28,560
structures would be u portable including

2759
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:34,390
the classroom office type of deal.

2760
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,360
questions or comments

2761
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:40,800
according to discussion

2762
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,480
I'd like to make a motion to make this

2763
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:45,360
happen but I'm struggling with our our

2764
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:48,400
contribution to water how we want to

2765
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:52,870
approach something like that

2766
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,440
um I think that

2767
02:08:55,440 --> 02:09:02,550
what we have here

2768
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,599
we hear that you're talking about

2769
02:09:05,599 --> 02:09:09,830
coming investment with

2770
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,639
county equity being

2771
02:09:12,639 --> 02:09:19,030
brought into it. I suspect that

2772
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:23,199
Billy has road base. Yes. Available and

2773
02:09:23,199 --> 02:09:25,520
then you'd be able to do the uh road

2774
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,189
into it.

2775
02:09:29,199 --> 02:09:33,599
and we have water well and piping the

2776
02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:37,520
two stock tanks. That portion of it

2777
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:40,400
uh would be a cost but the other items

2778
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,800
well except for the electricity. So

2779
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:46,320
based on this $15,000 would be covered

2780
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:49,599
by counting the other two items of

2781
02:09:49,599 --> 02:09:52,159
$35,000

2782
02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:55,280
and open open.

2783
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:58,560
So if you got you into this property and

2784
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,840
therefore kind of move forward your

2785
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:04,079
vision taking care of water and power

2786
02:10:04,079 --> 02:10:04,800
your sales.

2787
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:07,360
>> Yes sir. Okay.

2788
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:08,800
>> I think that would be something that we

2789
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:11,599
would iron out in our discussions and

2790
02:10:11,599 --> 02:10:12,800
you know as Clayton said having

2791
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:15,760
everything thought up um to make sure

2792
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,280
that if we were to leave the property

2793
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:18,880
that we were reimbursed for expenses

2794
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:20,159
that we had inferred that would be

2795
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:21,760
benefits to the property long term then

2796
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:22,719
I think that's something we could

2797
02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:27,830
certainly figure out.

2798
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:35,189
Okay.

2799
02:10:35,199 --> 02:10:39,430
This space

2800
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:42,159
for you may offer service that isn't

2801
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:43,679
available for these type of people in

2802
02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:45,920
these countries.

2803
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,079
I make the motion

2804
02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:52,480
it makes it into this 20 acres

2805
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,040
work that we can do.

2806
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,520
have a motion.

2807
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:02,000
I'll second a motion. Um, that's

2808
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:03,840
slightly what you're asking for.

2809
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:05,760
>> Yes, sir.

2810
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:07,360
>> Bring that up. Have a motion that you

2811
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:09,280
have a second.

2812
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:11,360
Um,

2813
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:13,760
further discussion.

2814
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:15,840
Uh, I'll just bring up that gate again.

2815
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,280
I mean it's something they're going to

2816
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,599
have to that's

2817
02:11:19,599 --> 02:11:23,510
quite deal

2818
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,480
when they 4 leaves and building it very

2819
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:28,880
morning. So

2820
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:30,079
but [clears throat]

2821
02:11:30,079 --> 02:11:33,599
um doesn't necessitate

2822
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:36,159
precluding them from having theation of

2823
02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:39,119
that gate county or that it's not

2824
02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:41,440
doesn't belong with 4. Well, I

2825
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,560
understand it, but you know, sure they

2826
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,239
went through their security, not

2827
02:11:46,239 --> 02:11:48,320
somebody else's. You know, reason you

2828
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:51,440
weren't here. You went through,

2829
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:52,960
>> you don't know what we went through on

2830
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:56,239
that little ordeal to get that paid. So,

2831
02:11:56,239 --> 02:12:10,790
I mean, I just wanted

2832
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:16,310
My position is

2833
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:21,280
approved since it's not 4.

2834
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,280
I've dealt with them and they are only

2835
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:28,239
concerned on their own.

2836
02:12:28,239 --> 02:12:30,400
So I don't see where it has to be. Well,

2837
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:34,390
obviously

2838
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,880
and then I watched the commission past

2839
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:41,679
meetings and put $1.1 million for their

2840
02:12:41,679 --> 02:12:43,360
grounds in our facility that's only

2841
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,440
going to use a couple weeks of the year.

2842
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:49,920
that doesn't benefit the segment of our

2843
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:53,040
population that needs

2844
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,079
and it's full time

2845
02:12:56,079 --> 02:13:00,069
versus

2846
02:13:00,079 --> 02:13:02,159
that that's our battle with me that how

2847
02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:04,560
we could justify the expenditure and

2848
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:10,149
then B will be $50,000 and B

2849
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:11,840
motion second is there any other

2850
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,239
conversation

2851
02:13:14,239 --> 02:13:17,440
>> um I had one to that. When we did our

2852
02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,000
budget last year, we consider that

2853
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,000
because

2854
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,320
the budget so that

2855
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,119
okay,

2856
02:13:27,119 --> 02:13:29,520
>> but I'm just saying that, you know,

2857
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,440
$25,14

2858
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:33,119
doesn't make difference. We didn't have

2859
02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:35,280
it in the budget. So, this is something

2860
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,520
when this comes along, it's going to

2861
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:39,840
have to be an added expense that we did

2862
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:42,800
plan on prepared.

2863
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,719
Thank you.

2864
02:13:44,719 --> 02:13:47,280
Okay. Motion to second. Any further

2865
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,920
discussion? Discussion's closed. All in

2866
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:51,760
favor? I

2867
02:13:51,760 --> 02:14:03,189
>> I

2868
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:11,350
thank you for your time.

2869
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:30,470
16.

2870
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:33,360
Next is we're going to move the

2871
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,639
procurement policy to after lunch and

2872
02:14:36,639 --> 02:14:38,480
we're going to go to the golf course

2873
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:44,149
restaurant. Please, please.

2874
02:14:44,159 --> 02:14:45,760
» Um, they've been sitting here all

2875
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:48,159
morning and

2876
02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:49,280
I'm just pointing out I'm just

2877
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:50,079
reminding.

2878
02:14:50,079 --> 02:14:52,618
>> Thank you. Yes, they'll still be very

2879
02:14:52,618 --> 02:15:05,189
[clears throat]

2880
02:15:05,199 --> 02:15:27,109
And from 11:30.

2881
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:29,920
» Yeah. Military.

2882
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:32,079
Thank you for your time and you know

2883
02:15:32,079 --> 02:15:33,920
this is enough to debug the microphone.

2884
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:36,000
I'm sorry. This isn't our preferred

2885
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,400
method to we

2886
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:40,880
have a private meeting but

2887
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:42,560
we prepared a couple statements.

2888
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,960
>> Um we appreciate your time. When we put

2889
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:47,280
the proposal into the golf course, we

2890
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:49,360
were looking for a good working

2891
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:52,000
relationship with good communication. We

2892
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:53,840
were told the county wanted to bring up

2893
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:55,760
the level of service, the level of food,

2894
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:58,159
and the atmosphere. This is what we've

2895
02:15:58,159 --> 02:15:59,679
been providing and have gotten an

2896
02:15:59,679 --> 02:16:02,320
overwhelming positive response from our

2897
02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:05,360
customers. Being in a new location, we

2898
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:07,840
were we were aware that there were going

2899
02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:09,280
to be obstacles that we were going to

2900
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:12,159
have to overcome that like we had at our

2901
02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:14,320
location at Lakeside. Change was always

2902
02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:16,880
difficult. We realized that I poured

2903
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:18,560
everything into this restaurant to make

2904
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:21,040
it a friendly, welcoming, and a great

2905
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:23,199
place to eat. In the middle of summer,

2906
02:16:23,199 --> 02:16:24,960
we met with both Sam and Billy to

2907
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,199
express concerns that the golfers had.

2908
02:16:27,199 --> 02:16:28,800
We came up with the idea of the

2909
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:30,400
discounts on the food and the beverages

2910
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,160
from the members for the members to

2911
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,800
enjoy year round. We continue to receive

2912
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,599
good feedback from them. I spoke with

2913
02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:40,960
Mike, the head of the men's league about

2914
02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:42,479
setting up a meeting with all of the men

2915
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:44,000
from the men's league who expressed

2916
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,000
concerns to hear their feedback and see

2917
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:47,679
what else we could do for them. Well,

2918
02:16:47,679 --> 02:16:50,319
Sam and Billy told us that they were

2919
02:16:50,319 --> 02:16:51,920
ecstatic about that meeting and were

2920
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:54,000
happy to join if we could set that up.

2921
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:55,519
However, none of them wanted to meet

2922
02:16:55,519 --> 02:16:57,920
with us. No reason was ever given. They

2923
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:00,399
just didn't want to meet with us. Every

2924
02:17:00,399 --> 02:17:02,000
month since then, we would meet with

2925
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:04,000
Billy to pay the rent. I asked him, "How

2926
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:05,439
are things going? Are there any other

2927
02:17:05,439 --> 02:17:07,040
concerns? Is there anything else we need

2928
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,840
to know?" Nope. Haven't heard anything.

2929
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:11,519
Everything. Everybody seems pretty

2930
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:13,040
happy.

2931
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:14,559
Then we received an email from the

2932
02:17:14,559 --> 02:17:16,479
county which came as a complete shock to

2933
02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:18,960
me and my husband. We've had zero

2934
02:17:18,960 --> 02:17:21,519
complaint, zero communication

2935
02:17:21,519 --> 02:17:24,479
um was was given regarding any problems,

2936
02:17:24,479 --> 02:17:27,519
complaints or violations. What is what

2937
02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:29,519
happened to the communication? If there

2938
02:17:29,519 --> 02:17:31,040
are complaints, why didn't we hear about

2939
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:33,840
them? How how do you expect us to fix

2940
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,359
anything if we don't know anything is

2941
02:17:35,359 --> 02:17:39,280
wrong? Um, we never received any kind of

2942
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:40,719
communication that there were any types

2943
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:43,200
of issues. Since the beginning when we

2944
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,120
took over, we made every effort to try

2945
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:46,880
and accommodate the requests from the

2946
02:17:46,880 --> 02:17:49,439
golfers that have been given to us. This

2947
02:17:49,439 --> 02:17:51,920
in includes the discounts I mentioned as

2948
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:53,679
well as special funds that we went out

2949
02:17:53,679 --> 02:17:55,040
of our way to put together for the

2950
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:56,960
golfers.

2951
02:17:56,960 --> 02:17:59,200
Regarding all of the golf tournaments, I

2952
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:00,960
went out of my way to ask them, meet

2953
02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:02,960
with them, work with their budgets as

2954
02:18:02,960 --> 02:18:05,519
best I can. the tournaments that got

2955
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:08,160
alcohol from us. We barely charged a

2956
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:10,000
little more than our cost for that. We

2957
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:12,880
really made no money off of that. Um I

2958
02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:15,359
tried to accommodate one of the golf

2959
02:18:15,359 --> 02:18:17,280
tournaments in particular. We charge

2960
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:20,479
them $10 for a 6 burger, all toppings,

2961
02:18:20,479 --> 02:18:22,479
all condiments, chips, and dessert. And

2962
02:18:22,479 --> 02:18:24,800
they told me that was unreasonable. That

2963
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:27,920
barely covered my cost of the food and

2964
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:31,439
my staff to be there. That's all we were

2965
02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:34,559
trying to do. I get having the I get

2966
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:36,399
you're trying to raise money, but I I we

2967
02:18:36,399 --> 02:18:37,679
are a business and we do need to at

2968
02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:40,960
least cover our expenses.

2969
02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:42,880
I do wish we were in a place where we

2970
02:18:42,880 --> 02:18:45,040
could donate. Unfortunately, we're not

2971
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:47,040
in the finan financial position to do

2972
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:48,639
that. This is our first year at our

2973
02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:50,399
location and we're just trying to get

2974
02:18:50,399 --> 02:18:52,240
established.

2975
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:55,200
Furthermore, this in particular staff um

2976
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:57,519
from this tournament was demanding and

2977
02:18:57,519 --> 02:18:59,920
disrespectful towards me and my staff

2978
02:18:59,920 --> 02:19:02,319
because they were not getting their way.

2979
02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:04,240
This behavior was unacceptable and

2980
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:06,559
unnecessary. They also damaged some of

2981
02:19:06,559 --> 02:19:09,280
our decor without so much as an apology.

2982
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:10,960
To come into a business and to start

2983
02:19:10,960 --> 02:19:13,359
rearranging furniture and decor without

2984
02:19:13,359 --> 02:19:15,920
consulting me is unacceptable. All of

2985
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:17,280
these tournaments that ordered through

2986
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:20,080
for me through me were told that there

2987
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:22,960
was a two week final food headcount. All

2988
02:19:22,960 --> 02:19:24,960
of them agreed completely fine with

2989
02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:28,800
that. So after those two weeks

2990
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:30,639
to come to me and say we need to change

2991
02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:31,920
this. I don't want this. I don't want

2992
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:33,760
this. I'm sorry. I've already ordered

2993
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:35,280
food. I've already prepared food for

2994
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:37,840
this. And then to complain to you guys

2995
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:41,280
and to Billy about that I I think is was

2996
02:19:41,280 --> 02:19:44,240
inappropriate. Um,

2997
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:48,800
I've never ever in my 26 plus years of

2998
02:19:48,800 --> 02:19:50,640
it being in this business have I ever

2999
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:53,040
been told that I am difficult to work

3000
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:59,670
for or that I'm difficult to work with.

3001
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:02,160
If I'm so difficult, then why am I

3002
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:03,680
getting additional caterings from some

3003
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:04,720
of the people that run these

3004
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:06,880
tournaments? Why is my staff that I have

3005
02:20:06,880 --> 02:20:08,479
that have all these restrictions and

3006
02:20:08,479 --> 02:20:10,000
can't work this time and can't work that

3007
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:12,560
time, I'm able to accommodate that and

3008
02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:14,080
they're recommending their friends and

3009
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:15,840
their fellow co-workers from previous

3010
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,520
jobs to come and work for me because I

3011
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:19,600
am accommodating. Why would I not

3012
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:22,560
transfer that to our clientele? I've

3013
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:24,319
always worked the best that I can with

3014
02:20:24,319 --> 02:20:26,080
everyone to try and accommodate special

3015
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:28,240
requests. The ladies league always

3016
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:29,760
communicated with me and I've always

3017
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:32,000
accomodated them with all of their

3018
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:34,800
special requests whenever they came in.

3019
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:37,359
The last day of the golf season, I

3020
02:20:37,359 --> 02:20:39,200
provided I wanted to do something nice

3021
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:40,880
for the golfers as a thank you for the

3022
02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:42,880
season. We put out a really nice buffet

3023
02:20:42,880 --> 02:20:45,439
for them. All complimentary to me. They

3024
02:20:45,439 --> 02:20:49,120
all seem to really enjoy that. Um, I do

3025
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:50,399
know that the contracts for the

3026
02:20:50,399 --> 02:20:51,920
tournaments were changed so that the

3027
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:54,000
restaurant had first rights for food

3028
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,640
being refused that was offered. I do

3029
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:58,720
know that the first tournament always

3030
02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:01,920
had food donated and I know that may be

3031
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:03,680
something that they didn't want want to

3032
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:05,520
deal with us. I don't see why they

3033
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:07,280
couldn't have just come to us and said,

3034
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:08,960
"Hey, you know, we've always had all

3035
02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:10,640
this food donated. We've always had all

3036
02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:13,280
of this. Is this something that we can

3037
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:15,040
still do because it really brings in a

3038
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:16,479
lot of money for our tournament?" And

3039
02:21:16,479 --> 02:21:18,160
absolutely, I would have accommodated,

3040
02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:20,640
but once again, nobody's communicating

3041
02:21:20,640 --> 02:21:22,160
with us. Nobody's giving us the

3042
02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:27,200
opportunity. Everyone is expecting the worst from us. We know that since we

3043
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:29,359
got the lease, the previous tenants have

3044
02:21:29,359 --> 02:21:30,880
been have been trying to turn everyone

3045
02:21:30,880 --> 02:21:32,880
against us and trying to get us out

3046
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:35,040
before we ever even moved in. There were

3047
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:36,720
petitions against us from people we

3048
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:38,399
didn't even meet before we even took

3049
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:40,640
over. Not only did we have to overcome

3050
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:43,040
the bad reputation and the bad food in

3051
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:44,479
the atmosphere, but now we have to

3052
02:21:44,479 --> 02:21:47,280
overcome those things

3053
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:49,920
that the the golfers that were happy

3054
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:51,840
with.

3055
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:54,560
Sorry, I just

3056
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,960
now we have to overcome

3057
02:21:56,960 --> 02:21:58,640
those that were happy with how things

3058
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:00,319
were operated by the previous tenants

3059
02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:02,319
because they got free food, alcohol,

3060
02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:04,399
made their own drinks behind the bar.

3061
02:22:04,399 --> 02:22:07,280
They were also allowed by previous Oh, I

3062
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:09,280
already got that. Um, they came in

3063
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:10,720
through the back entrance, came in

3064
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:13,120
through the kitchen. Um, we continue to

3065
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:15,280
have to guide these patrons away from

3066
02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:18,399
this behavior as it is an ongoing issue.

3067
02:22:18,399 --> 02:22:20,479
We can't run a business like that. These

3068
02:22:20,479 --> 02:22:24,240
are the same people that were

3069
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:26,960
>> x-raying in the bathroom, in the men's

3070
02:22:26,960 --> 02:22:29,120
bathroom, in the trash cans and smearing

3071
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:31,280
it all over the walls for my staff to

3072
02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:33,840
clean. That's disgusting and it's very

3073
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:35,600
inappropriate.

3074
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,439
I thought we were trying to change that.

3075
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:39,840
We don't know them. They don't know us.

3076
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:41,760
I had no idea that there was so much

3077
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:43,920
hatred and so much judgment towards our

3078
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:46,080
family from the people of Pineale,

3079
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:48,720
probably most whom never got the time to

3080
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:51,040
know us. We're not difficult people to

3081
02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:53,520
talk to or to approach. How can you

3082
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:55,280
expect us to change things or make

3083
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:56,560
things work when there is no

3084
02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:58,800
communication between the parties? We've

3085
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:00,560
lived here for 5 years and have always

3086
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:02,399
been law-abiding citizens who wants to

3087
02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:04,960
see this town to continue to grow and a

3088
02:23:04,960 --> 02:23:06,560
place for families to grow. To

3089
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:08,080
personally witness the things we have

3090
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:10,399
heard and seen from this community is

3091
02:23:10,399 --> 02:23:15,910
disheartening.

3092
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:19,120
with what she said. [clears throat]

3093
02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:20,720
We would very much like to finish that

3094
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:22,800
release. However, if your minds have not

3095
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,600
been changed, the council's email stated

3096
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:27,439
you're claiming that we are in violation

3097
02:23:27,439 --> 02:23:29,439
of release. [clears throat] The claim

3098
02:23:29,439 --> 02:23:34,550
that we are advent

3099
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:36,319
to be serve us with a forceful entry

3100
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:39,120
detainer, which we would then attend a

3101
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:41,920
hearing with council. Um, obviously if

3102
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:44,240
we win, we finish out our lease. If we

3103
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:46,479
lose, our council would request a bond

3104
02:23:46,479 --> 02:23:48,560
from the judge which we would promptly

3105
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:51,680
pay and then we would appeal which our

3106
02:23:51,680 --> 02:23:53,600
council informs us can be a long

3107
02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:55,359
process. A process I believe both

3108
02:23:55,359 --> 02:23:58,240
parties would like to avoid. So my

3109
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:00,960
counter proposal is this.

3110
02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:02,399
Assuming you haven't changed your minds

3111
02:24:02,399 --> 02:24:04,240
about letting us see our currently

3112
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:06,479
through to turn

3113
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:08,720
is that you amend our contract to be

3114
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:14,870
terminated.

3115
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:18,160
on March 1st, 2027.

3116
02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:20,240
Cindy and I will sign this lease. This

3117
02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:22,720
would allow smoother transition for us

3118
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:24,720
for use the city council and whoever you

3119
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:27,040
find to be lease.

3120
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:28,880
The tournaments could have option to

3121
02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:30,560
bring in outside food and beverage

3122
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:33,040
without needing approval. However, if

3123
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:34,479
they're not going to patronize us, we

3124
02:24:34,479 --> 02:24:37,200
ask uh to enforce policy of preserving

3125
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,760
restaurant interior and patio seating

3126
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,840
for paying customers. We have spare

3127
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:43,520
tables and seats we would have to

3128
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:45,600
provide for them to set up somewhere on

3129
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:47,600
the lawn area.

3130
02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:49,600
And even though you as a council

3131
02:24:49,600 --> 02:24:51,439
approved our menus before signing the

3132
02:24:51,439 --> 02:24:54,080
lease, we will remove fine dining

3133
02:24:54,080 --> 02:24:55,760
options and go to a more simplified all

3134
02:24:55,760 --> 02:24:57,680
day menu. We will do our best to

3135
02:24:57,680 --> 02:24:59,520
accommodate requests made to you, the

3136
02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:02,240
city council, if they are made known to

3137
02:25:02,240 --> 02:25:05,349
us,

3138
02:25:05,359 --> 02:25:08,080
including beers we have available on

3139
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:09,680
tap.

3140
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:12,319
So we hope this second option is

3141
02:25:12,319 --> 02:25:14,880
acceptable if finishing out her release

3142
02:25:14,880 --> 02:25:36,389
is not

3143
02:25:36,399 --> 02:25:39,600
» I wasn't able to fully understand what

3144
02:25:39,600 --> 02:25:41,600
options were. I'm sorry you were talking

3145
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:42,800
quickly and

3146
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:46,640
>> sorry I don't know

3147
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:49,439
but

3148
02:25:49,439 --> 02:25:52,640
>> so we we would like to finish up but we

3149
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:54,160
understand

3150
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:55,920
that

3151
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:59,429
um

3152
02:25:59,439 --> 02:26:04,080
you guys may not have changed. So, um,

3153
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:08,399
we're hoping to avoid the the the the

3154
02:26:08,399 --> 02:26:12,160
legal rigorous because we are repeating

3155
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:15,200
that we're breaking our lease. So, my

3156
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:18,880
last option was that you terminate,

3157
02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:21,439
you know, shorten our lease by year to

3158
02:26:21,439 --> 02:26:26,399
end on March 1st of 2027 of next year.

3159
02:26:26,399 --> 02:26:29,920
And if you guys make the requests that

3160
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,800
were known to you of what they'd like to

3161
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:34,080
see on our menu, what they'd like to

3162
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:37,840
see, we will do our best to make that

3163
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:41,200
happen. So if you want all Budweiser and

3164
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:45,439
Kors on top instead of the micro brews

3165
02:26:45,439 --> 02:26:47,760
that we have, we'll do it. It's just

3166
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:51,280
we'd rather be working with you and the

3167
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:54,800
community than against you guys. This is

3168
02:26:54,800 --> 02:26:57,920
not something that we saw coming. We

3169
02:26:57,920 --> 02:26:59,359
wanted coming,

3170
02:26:59,359 --> 02:27:01,040
>> right?

3171
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:06,800
>> We we we wanted time to transition to

3172
02:27:06,800 --> 02:27:14,389
>> if that's if that's the only option.

3173
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:16,399
» Thank you.

3174
02:27:16,399 --> 02:27:30,550
Questions from the board.

3175
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:33,520
questions, comments, statements,

3176
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:39,510
the ability to sell all this

3177
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:50,870
and this is what the complaints have um

3178
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:55,680
just that they all first

3179
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:57,680
and Cindy I mean they feel good about

3180
02:27:57,680 --> 02:28:00,960
paying and stuff. I've I've sat down

3181
02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:03,760
with them numerous times.

3182
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:05,359
um from the very beginning

3183
02:28:05,359 --> 02:28:07,040
>> there's some of the transactions you

3184
02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:10,479
have start from the very beginning the

3185
02:28:10,479 --> 02:28:12,720
one thing the Google thing that really

3186
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:14,880
bothers me is like you'll see on some of

3187
02:28:14,880 --> 02:28:17,760
them pages we get bad reviews through

3188
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:20,479
the golf course because people send them

3189
02:28:20,479 --> 02:28:22,960
to the golf course and not to there

3190
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:25,359
because they're two different web pages

3191
02:28:25,359 --> 02:28:30,479
so there's some um I mean

3192
02:28:30,479 --> 02:28:33,760
what the problems I've had

3193
02:28:33,760 --> 02:28:36,319
I met with these guys four or five times

3194
02:28:36,319 --> 02:28:38,080
before we ever did the lease because

3195
02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:40,479
we've gone down and we've just gone back

3196
02:28:40,479 --> 02:28:42,880
and just we had the other people that

3197
02:28:42,880 --> 02:28:44,160
were in there. We had a lot of

3198
02:28:44,160 --> 02:28:46,560
complaints. I did tell them from the

3199
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:48,960
very beginning,

3200
02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:51,840
you got to make the golfers happy. It's

3201
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,000
kind of a it's kind of a family out

3202
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:58,960
there. And once once you

3203
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:03,760
once that goes bad, then it's bad. And

3204
02:29:03,760 --> 02:29:08,640
um the the things the things where like

3205
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:11,920
in the least that we've not

3206
02:29:11,920 --> 02:29:14,560
that have never been done. The breakfast

3207
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:17,359
was a disaster. You guys knew that. We

3208
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:18,800
were supposed to have grabb and go.

3209
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:22,479
There's never been no grab and go. Um

3210
02:29:22,479 --> 02:29:27,439
there was never coffee. Um it it

3211
02:29:27,439 --> 02:29:29,359
were the things that really and then

3212
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:33,520
like the beer. Um and

3213
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:37,920
me and Sam guys a lot. Um the discount

3214
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:41,680
was basically this same me with them but

3215
02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:43,920
basically the discount parts us telling

3216
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:46,960
you that the golfers weren't happy and

3217
02:29:46,960 --> 02:29:50,880
we pretty much um said you had to do

3218
02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:56,479
that. Um, we know that was our batch of

3219
02:29:56,479 --> 02:29:59,280
>> that was ours. We met with Sam once. We

3220
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:02,880
had a whole freezer full of burritos

3221
02:30:02,880 --> 02:30:05,120
ready to go. Here's here's the thing

3222
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:08,479
that I've had. You guys You guys are

3223
02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:11,200
good. But we've taught you and I say,

3224
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:12,720
"You got to make sure the golf team are

3225
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:14,000
happy. You got to make sure it's all

3226
02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:15,920
about the golfers about the golfers."

3227
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,000
The tournament thing is a big deal. We

3228
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:21,280
have 16 tournaments this year. Not one

3229
02:30:21,280 --> 02:30:23,520
of them. You mean the Mesa people left,

3230
02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:27,760
but not one of them um want to deal with

3231
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:33,120
the thing about the thing about

3232
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:36,240
having them bring their alcohol and the

3233
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:39,280
food. It's really hard on the greens for

3234
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:42,080
us to just it takes a lot more personnel

3235
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,399
to try to make this all happen. That

3236
02:30:44,399 --> 02:30:46,800
food and all that. That's why in the

3237
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:50,550
lease

3238
02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:53,359
agreement we had in there that we had to

3239
02:30:53,359 --> 02:31:01,359
get all the alcohol and the food from the the restaurant. It's got to be

3240
02:31:01,359 --> 02:31:08,800
we've got to work together. And what's hard is um I'm I'm just telling

3241
02:31:08,800 --> 02:31:11,120
you I'm not trying to dump on you guys.

3242
02:31:11,120 --> 02:31:12,720
I'm just telling you when the golfers

3243
02:31:12,720 --> 02:31:16,640
have come to me. Um they close at 8:00

3244
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:19,439
after a tournament. I have to have tons

3245
02:31:19,439 --> 02:31:21,760
and then you go through these. We sent

3246
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:24,800
out a survey to the members and we can

3247
02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:29,349
read a lot. Um

3248
02:31:29,359 --> 02:31:33,520
the hours you know you guys you know the

3249
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:36,399
cheap boys they complained about that.

3250
02:31:36,399 --> 02:31:39,359
Um I mean this this weekend I had two

3251
02:31:39,359 --> 02:31:41,920
complaints. I I get I get a complaint a

3252
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:45,840
week. Um the bathroom Saturday 1:00 I

3253
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:48,399
had some people call me said bathrooms

3254
02:31:48,399 --> 02:31:50,640
were disgusting. So I sent Debbie in

3255
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:56,640
there to to um to clean. Um

3256
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,600
and another one said the drinks I had

3257
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,880
some people calling these people call me

3258
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:06,960
and they turn me over to she see me on

3259
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:12,000
the she see the my lean

3260
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:16,080
food because she said that that your

3261
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:19,760
all your drinks taste like cleaning

3262
02:32:19,760 --> 02:32:24,240
supplies. Um it isn't. Um it's just the

3263
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:26,960
golfers think the prices. They don't

3264
02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:30,640
like the menu. Um they they they would

3265
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:34,720
they love your pizza. They you can only

3266
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:39,600
get pizza certain times. It's just

3267
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:41,840
the golf has, you know, they have a

3268
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:45,280
hold. I mean, I'm there to I want what's

3269
02:32:45,280 --> 02:32:47,520
bad is if the golfers ain't happy, then

3270
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:49,439
they're not happy playing golf. So, they

3271
02:32:49,439 --> 02:32:50,720
go over there and they have a bad

3272
02:32:50,720 --> 02:32:52,479
experience and then then it's it's just

3273
02:32:52,479 --> 02:32:55,439
like a vicious circle. Not saying it's

3274
02:32:55,439 --> 02:32:58,399
anything, but I think they started off

3275
02:32:58,399 --> 02:33:02,080
wrong, you know, with with stuff. And I

3276
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:05,840
mean I um

3277
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:09,120
I just and you know I I have had Mike at

3278
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:12,319
Lensley tell me you know he I think he's

3279
02:33:12,319 --> 02:33:16,080
got a something in there about he likes

3280
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:18,080
to serve beer. He said he asked you guys

3281
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:20,399
and you guys said nope. We brought in

3282
02:33:20,399 --> 02:33:22,240
gluten-free

3283
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:25,200
and so that's the stuff I keep all the

3284
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:28,080
golfers keep telling me it's it's you

3285
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:31,600
know I other than that they're great to

3286
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:34,240
deal with they pay the rent I you know I

3287
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:36,000
haven't had any problems get the rent

3288
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:40,960
from um I just don't think what they are

3289
02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:43,120
they're more trying to be fine dining

3290
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:47,359
and that place just needs to be hot pops

3291
02:33:47,359 --> 02:33:51,439
some bar food And and and to get about

3292
02:33:51,439 --> 02:33:53,760
the lease, there's no legal there

3293
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:55,359
because you didn't follow any of the

3294
02:33:55,359 --> 02:34:02,080
rules. And I mean, they you know, they I had the town call me and think

3295
02:34:02,080 --> 02:34:04,720
about serving alcohol. They know our

3296
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:08,720
license does not it's got to stay on our

3297
02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:10,800
property and they work under our

3298
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:13,120
license. So, they were selling at when

3299
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:15,680
they were catering with our license and

3300
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:18,479
that's that's automatic. And then also I

3301
02:34:18,479 --> 02:34:24,469
had to get down with the

3302
02:34:24,479 --> 02:34:28,319
RV park um call me last summer. Remember

3303
02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:30,000
they had one of the beverage park was

3304
02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:33,600
over in there. So I' I've had them

3305
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:37,429
issues

3306
02:34:37,439 --> 02:34:41,040
» most of this conveyed to the lieutenants

3307
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:42,479
you talked with.

3308
02:34:42,479 --> 02:34:44,560
>> I I'

3309
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:51,120
I've told them they have to make the the golfers hadn't. Um, and I would tell

3310
02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:53,760
the golfers, try to talk to me. The

3311
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:56,560
feedback I got all the time was they're

3312
02:34:56,560 --> 02:35:00,319
hard to talk to. Um, I I would always

3313
02:35:00,319 --> 02:35:02,640
just tell Cindy, you know, try to, you

3314
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:05,439
know, because every time I'm older, it's

3315
02:35:05,439 --> 02:35:07,680
really slow and stuff. So, I was like,

3316
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:09,600
you know, we got to try to get the

3317
02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:13,680
golfers to to come in. Um, I, you know,

3318
02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:16,640
I bought I bought a $6,000 barbecue for

3319
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:18,319
real. How many times you guys use that?

3320
02:35:18,319 --> 02:35:21,120
I mean, that was several times. We did

3321
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:22,479
barbecues,

3322
02:35:22,479 --> 02:35:24,319
>> but we did a hot dog pick out.

3323
02:35:24,319 --> 02:35:26,319
>> I mean, we were hoping the beverage was

3324
02:35:26,319 --> 02:35:29,040
going to be out there every week. It

3325
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:35,120
maybe a couple times. Um, it's just

3326
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:37,120
I know that I mean their food's good.

3327
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:39,680
So, I'm not trying to I'm just saying I

3328
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:41,600
just don't think

3329
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:44,240
they they got on board with the golfers.

3330
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:47,439
You know, they they

3331
02:35:47,439 --> 02:35:50,080
that's that's where we're at. And what's

3332
02:35:50,080 --> 02:35:52,720
bad is, you know, I got right now I got

3333
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:55,760
memberships, you know, that they're

3334
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:57,439
like, you know, I don't know if I want

3335
02:35:57,439 --> 02:35:58,640
to buy a membership because I don't want

3336
02:35:58,640 --> 02:36:00,640
to deal with that, you know. I mean,

3337
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:02,640
believe it or not, I mean, it I know it

3338
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:06,640
sounds silly, but them golfers, that is

3339
02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:08,640
a big

3340
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:10,399
they they they want people to go in

3341
02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:12,720
there and have reasonable beer, you

3342
02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:16,640
know. Um I you know I had a lady call me

3343
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:19,200
matter and he had because charge $18 for

3344
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:23,200
her class name. Um I I just tried to you

3345
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:24,960
know I kept because I know they were

3346
02:36:24,960 --> 02:36:28,479
trying to but I just think you know from

3347
02:36:28,479 --> 02:36:30,160
the very beginning what kind of makes me

3348
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:34,960
mad is we four signs I met what four or

3349
02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:38,640
five and I kept saying

3350
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:41,840
got to have you know we got to cater to

3351
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:44,640
the golfers and I I think that's where

3352
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:47,840
right off the bat we we went more into

3353
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:50,960
this fine dining kind of thing instead

3354
02:36:50,960 --> 02:36:55,200
of making it just a hot dog

3355
02:36:55,200 --> 02:37:02,080
sell you sell burgers in salad.

3356
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:08,309
>> Thank you.

3357
02:37:08,319 --> 02:37:09,680
» Okay.

3358
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:13,840
>> So, several things. Um, again, we had

3359
02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:16,720
present our menus and to Billy and you

3360
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:20,080
guys before we even signed police. Um,

3361
02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:21,680
so

3362
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,720
shouldn't be a surprise of what our menu

3363
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:28,720
offerings were. Um, we didn't subtract

3364
02:37:28,720 --> 02:37:31,200
anything from them. We've only added,

3365
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:33,840
you know, smash burgers. Um, we extended

3366
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,240
happy hour, which you can get a beer for

3367
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:39,840
like $3. That goes till six, you know.

3368
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:42,479
Um, like Cindy said with the ladies

3369
02:37:42,479 --> 02:37:45,520
league talked to us um for their when

3370
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:46,960
they were there, we extended happy

3371
02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:49,120
houring through the evening for them.

3372
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:52,240
Um, yes, we close at 8:00 during fall

3373
02:37:52,240 --> 02:37:54,479
and winter when golfers aren't there,

3374
02:37:54,479 --> 02:37:57,840
but we um stay open till 9:00 and we've

3375
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:00,240
even stayed open till 10:00 if the

3376
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:03,359
golfers were there drinking. Um,

3377
02:38:03,359 --> 02:38:05,439
sometimes even 11:00. Um, we've been

3378
02:38:05,439 --> 02:38:07,280
there pretty late if the golfers were

3379
02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:11,200
there drinking. Um, again,

3380
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:13,359
some of the complaints uh from the

3381
02:38:13,359 --> 02:38:16,880
golfers were even before we took over

3382
02:38:16,880 --> 02:38:18,880
and you know, we feel like we've never

3383
02:38:18,880 --> 02:38:23,920
even been given a chance. Mike, yeah, he asked us for gluten-free beer. We

3384
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:25,280
started bringing in gluten-free beer.

3385
02:38:25,280 --> 02:38:27,600
We've had golfers ask for highs. We

3386
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:30,160
didn't have highs. We brought in highs.

3387
02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:31,920
You could ask all of our regulars that

3388
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:34,399
come in, you know, that they they're

3389
02:38:34,399 --> 02:38:36,080
happy with us because we do listen to

3390
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:38,080
them. Okay. They said, "One thing about

3391
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:40,800
you guys is that when we suggest

3392
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:42,960
something, you you guys try to

3393
02:38:42,960 --> 02:38:44,960
accommodate and put that on your your

3394
02:38:44,960 --> 02:38:46,560
menus."

3395
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:51,680
Um, and again with my second proposal of

3396
02:38:51,680 --> 02:38:54,640
shortening the release by the year, um,

3397
02:38:54,640 --> 02:38:57,680
like I said, if you guys make known to

3398
02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:59,439
us what the golfers are saying to you,

3399
02:38:59,439 --> 02:39:01,359
which they aren't saying to us,

3400
02:39:01,359 --> 02:39:02,720
regardless of what they're claiming,

3401
02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:05,040
they're not talking to us, we will do

3402
02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:08,560
our best to accommodate those requests,

3403
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:11,840
including beer on tap, including what's

3404
02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:15,600
on the menu. Um

3405
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:19,280
we we you know we rather would this

3406
02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:23,280
would have been a discussion um

3407
02:39:23,280 --> 02:39:26,560
then I mean obviously you guys have a

3408
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:33,439
slew of complaints uh sent to Billy. We have not we have not nothing was

3409
02:39:33,439 --> 02:39:36,080
brought to us. I I think Sydney would

3410
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:40,230
like to say something.

3411
02:39:40,240 --> 02:39:42,160
I I wish all of these complaints would

3412
02:39:42,160 --> 02:39:44,399
have been brought to us. I I don't think

3413
02:39:44,399 --> 02:39:47,280
I'm not unreasonable. If if I were to

3414
02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:49,439
have been told, "Your menu sucks. We

3415
02:39:49,439 --> 02:39:50,880
don't like your menu. This is what we

3416
02:39:50,880 --> 02:39:54,240
want." I've changed my menu over and

3417
02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:57,359
over again to accommodate people. But

3418
02:39:57,359 --> 02:39:59,120
how can I change that if I don't know

3419
02:39:59,120 --> 02:40:02,800
anything? We we we've been told nothing.

3420
02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:05,200
So, how how how

3421
02:40:05,200 --> 02:40:07,120
can that fix anything? It's how could

3422
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:11,359
any of these problems be fixed without

3423
02:40:11,359 --> 02:40:14,479
us being told this is exactly what the

3424
02:40:14,479 --> 02:40:16,319
golfers are saying. This is what they

3425
02:40:16,319 --> 02:40:18,319
don't like. This is what they hate. This

3426
02:40:18,319 --> 02:40:21,200
is what they want to see change. I I can

3427
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:23,280
take criticism. I can take complaints. I

3428
02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:26,240
can take all of that. But I can't change

3429
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:27,680
anything if I don't know what the

3430
02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:30,560
problem is.

3431
02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:33,359
And we've had we've had pots of coffee

3432
02:40:33,359 --> 02:40:36,479
that we've thrown away that nobody's

3433
02:40:36,479 --> 02:40:39,040
come in for as much as a single cup.

3434
02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:41,920
We've had freezer full of quick and easy

3435
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:44,080
burritos to to warm up that we've

3436
02:40:44,080 --> 02:40:45,760
eventually got freezer burn, had to

3437
02:40:45,760 --> 02:40:47,760
throw away. We've had a lot of breakfast

3438
02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:49,680
product that we've had to throw away,

3439
02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:52,960
but yet we still stayed open. yet we

3440
02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:56,479
still uh paid employees to be there even

3441
02:40:56,479 --> 02:40:59,040
though none of the golfers

3442
02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:01,280
ever came in to have breakfast. We've

3443
02:41:01,280 --> 02:41:03,280
had breakfast sales but none of them

3444
02:41:03,280 --> 02:41:06,399
were ever golfers.

3445
02:41:06,399 --> 02:41:09,200
So,

3446
02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:12,880
um, again, it's it's very disheartening

3447
02:41:12,880 --> 02:41:15,840
for us and again, we'd rather be working

3448
02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:20,000
with you and the golfers for the the

3449
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:24,240
next year, not even instead of, you

3450
02:41:24,240 --> 02:41:26,319
know,

3451
02:41:26,319 --> 02:41:27,920
doing

3452
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:29,439
the [clears throat] alternative, which

3453
02:41:29,439 --> 02:41:31,760
would be, you know, us trying to fight

3454
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:36,790
and appeal this

3455
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:40,160
Thank you. Appreciate that.

3456
02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:42,240
Um, [clears throat] questions, comments

3457
02:41:42,240 --> 02:41:44,080
from the board.

3458
02:41:44,080 --> 02:41:48,399
Wait, is this a a voting item?

3459
02:41:48,399 --> 02:41:49,920
>> One more time.

3460
02:41:49,920 --> 02:41:51,760
>> This an item that we voted on.

3461
02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:54,319
>> Oh, voting. I think loading. Um, Mr.

3462
02:41:54,319 --> 02:41:57,359
Chairman, ultimately you all made a

3463
02:41:57,359 --> 02:41:58,319
decision prior,

3464
02:41:58,319 --> 02:41:58,880
>> correct?

3465
02:41:58,880 --> 02:42:00,720
>> And so, if you wanted to undo that

3466
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:04,240
decision, you can. Um, but that's up to

3467
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:04,960
you guys.

3468
02:42:04,960 --> 02:42:07,200
>> Wonderful. That's all I need to take. Is

3469
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:08,720
there anyone that wants to make a motion

3470
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:11,920
in regards to um

3471
02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:20,550
amending our prior action?

3472
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:25,590
No.

3473
02:42:25,600 --> 02:42:27,840
The information that we had early on

3474
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:31,040
indicated that it time to make a change

3475
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:35,027
and stick with

3476
02:42:35,027 --> 02:42:36,319
[clears throat] okay. At this point in

3477
02:42:36,319 --> 02:42:39,040
time, the uh original

3478
02:42:39,040 --> 02:42:40,800
um

3479
02:42:40,800 --> 02:42:42,560
vote

3480
02:42:42,560 --> 02:42:45,120
um determination stands. No further

3481
02:42:45,120 --> 02:43:09,429
action will be taken.

3482
02:43:09,439 --> 02:43:12,720
Okay, at this point I will break

3483
02:43:12,720 --> 02:44:04,790
for lunch.

3484
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:07,279
meeting back.

3485
02:44:07,279 --> 02:44:10,658
Up next is

3486
02:44:10,658 --> 02:44:16,150
[clears throat] the procurement policy

3487
02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:18,080
and

3488
02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:21,520
everyone has the latest

3489
02:44:21,520 --> 02:44:23,920
red line from

3490
02:44:23,920 --> 02:44:30,790
the individ Is that correct?

3491
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:32,399
So going through we've had comments from

3492
02:44:32,399 --> 02:44:34,880
a

3493
02:44:34,880 --> 02:44:38,399
little I'm aware of

3494
02:44:38,399 --> 02:44:40,080
from fire

3495
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:59,110
and then ver from Andre

3496
02:44:59,120 --> 02:45:00,479
here if you like to go ahead address

3497
02:45:00,479 --> 02:45:01,760
some of the findings that we have. That

3498
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:15,190
will be done in

3499
02:45:15,200 --> 02:45:17,439
Mr. Chairman Commissioners. Thank you.

3500
02:45:17,439 --> 02:45:20,399
Appreciate the opportunity to uh discuss

3501
02:45:20,399 --> 02:45:25,600
the policy um as well. uh you all uh got

3502
02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:28,960
a copy of my email and I'm I'm willing

3503
02:45:28,960 --> 02:45:30,479
to answer any questions that you may

3504
02:45:30,479 --> 02:45:32,960
have um certainly

3505
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:35,200
those sort of changes. I think the big I

3506
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:37,920
think the biggest thing is um

3507
02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:39,920
feasibility especially with the vehicle

3508
02:45:39,920 --> 02:45:43,120
procurement policy um for speaking

3509
02:45:43,120 --> 02:45:45,760
specifically for the sheriff's office

3510
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:48,880
and not for the county as a whole. Um, I

3511
02:45:48,880 --> 02:45:51,680
think that would and I'm not I'm not

3512
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:53,920
gonna speak for Billy. He can speak for

3513
02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:55,760
himself, but I think this would be a a

3514
02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:59,040
tall task for him to undertake. No, no

3515
02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:01,760
doubt that he probably could do it, but

3516
02:46:01,760 --> 02:46:04,560
that's no cons considerable heartache

3517
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:07,760
and uh and issues. But I really I

3518
02:46:07,760 --> 02:46:11,840
really, you know, if this if this policy

3519
02:46:11,840 --> 02:46:14,319
in effect is trying to be more fiscally

3520
02:46:14,319 --> 02:46:16,399
responsible, um I think we would be

3521
02:46:16,399 --> 02:46:21,910
going the opposite direction.

3522
02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:27,110
I said one of the

3523
02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:29,279
step back and look at this from the

3524
02:46:29,279 --> 02:46:31,200
beginning if we can share it there.

3525
02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:37,349
Yeah. Um when

3526
02:46:37,359 --> 02:46:40,640
doing a business is the number of people

3527
02:46:40,640 --> 02:46:47,860
do and they go out for basic services.

3528
02:46:47,860 --> 02:46:49,200
[clears throat] They go out and purchase

3529
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:52,080
tires. They're a single owner shop and

3530
02:46:52,080 --> 02:46:55,359
they go out and we hire to have it done.

3531
02:46:55,359 --> 02:46:58,479
As my business grows, I hire employees

3532
02:46:58,479 --> 02:47:03,359
to work for me and with me. And as my

3533
02:47:03,359 --> 02:47:06,000
grows,

3534
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:08,640
I'll eventually hire

3535
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:10,800
to take care of my repairs, take care of

3536
02:47:10,800 --> 02:47:12,240
fires, take care of different things

3537
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:15,840
like that. That makes sense. The purpose

3538
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:18,720
for that is so I can have individuals on

3539
02:47:18,720 --> 02:47:20,640
call to address my needs. So I don't

3540
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:23,760
have to book out weeks in advance.

3541
02:47:23,760 --> 02:47:27,200
And when I when they go out, this is

3542
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:33,840
only restoration example. If you go out and purchase a tire for $300,

3543
02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:36,080
that's what I pay. It's $300. But if I

3544
02:47:36,080 --> 02:47:38,720
go to an outside source, that outside

3545
02:47:38,720 --> 02:47:42,720
source buys for 300.

3546
02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:47,200
I hope I have the same buying floor as outside businesses.

3547
02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:51,359
And then they have their markup on it, x

3548
02:47:51,359 --> 02:47:53,200
number of dollars.

3549
02:47:53,200 --> 02:47:56,560
And then they have their own mechanic,

3550
02:47:56,560 --> 02:47:59,520
tire changer that they hire

3551
02:47:59,520 --> 02:48:02,080
and they pay the hourly wage for them,

3552
02:48:02,080 --> 02:48:06,160
but then they have a markup on that

3553
02:48:06,160 --> 02:48:09,760
employee also. And at the end of the end

3554
02:48:09,760 --> 02:48:11,359
of the day, depending on the business

3555
02:48:11,359 --> 02:48:13,840
that's doing it, this markup's going to

3556
02:48:13,840 --> 02:48:17,200
be anywhere from 20 to 50% or greater

3557
02:48:17,200 --> 02:48:20,960
depending on where you business.

3558
02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:24,240
I'm using this as an illustration,

3559
02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:29,279
not negating anything that you said, but

3560
02:48:29,279 --> 02:48:31,520
county is needs to look at this as a

3561
02:48:31,520 --> 02:48:35,359
business and say we have

3562
02:48:35,359 --> 02:48:37,279
capability

3563
02:48:37,279 --> 02:48:39,680
on payroll to go out and purchase these

3564
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:42,880
items. And then we have further the

3565
02:48:42,880 --> 02:48:46,000
employees, the equipment needed to make

3566
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:49,760
the repairs, to make them changes.

3567
02:48:49,760 --> 02:48:52,720
And these are all at cost, if you will,

3568
02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:55,920
with no markup associated with us. And

3569
02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:58,080
so for

3570
02:48:58,080 --> 02:49:00,399
us to say,

3571
02:49:00,399 --> 02:49:03,760
well, we need to do business with

3572
02:49:03,760 --> 02:49:06,080
different county businesses.

3573
02:49:06,080 --> 02:49:08,960
And I agree with that to the extent of

3574
02:49:08,960 --> 02:49:12,160
if we have the resources to do it, then

3575
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:14,640
we need to do it in house because

3576
02:49:14,640 --> 02:49:17,279
ultimately it saves every taxpayer

3577
02:49:17,279 --> 02:49:20,800
money. and we're not on a frivolous

3578
02:49:20,800 --> 02:49:23,439
basis. And I think that makes sense

3579
02:49:23,439 --> 02:49:26,080
there when it comes to the procurement

3580
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:27,920
policy.

3581
02:49:27,920 --> 02:49:31,200
That's a different uh different topic

3582
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:34,560
and I'd be interested in in further

3583
02:49:34,560 --> 02:49:36,160
exploring that.

3584
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:39,680
>> Yeah, Mr. Mr. Chairman, um I understand

3585
02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:43,600
uh your concept and in a uh in a regular

3586
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:45,439
business world, I think that makes

3587
02:49:45,439 --> 02:49:47,840
complete sense. However, I think we're

3588
02:49:47,840 --> 02:49:50,240
missing the mark here and I think we are

3589
02:49:50,240 --> 02:49:52,160
in in going to end up costing the

3590
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:54,800
taxpayers more money um if we were to go

3591
02:49:54,800 --> 02:49:57,439
with the with the current procurement

3592
02:49:57,439 --> 02:50:00,960
policy as as defined. I would agree that

3593
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:03,760
Billy has remarkable workers such as

3594
02:50:03,760 --> 02:50:06,800
county shop that they can work on

3595
02:50:06,800 --> 02:50:09,439
vehicles. However, they are limited. Um

3596
02:50:09,439 --> 02:50:12,319
right now um the uh the sheriff's office

3597
02:50:12,319 --> 02:50:14,880
has five different brands. Um, we have

3598
02:50:14,880 --> 02:50:17,120
Chevys, we have Fords, we have Jeeps,

3599
02:50:17,120 --> 02:50:20,399
and we acquired a Toyota here in Hub a

3600
02:50:20,399 --> 02:50:24,560
couple years ago. In order for Billy to

3601
02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:27,279
do the required updates or even the di

3602
02:50:27,279 --> 02:50:29,040
the advanced diagnostics on those

3603
02:50:29,040 --> 02:50:32,319
vehicles u would cost him and the county

3604
02:50:32,319 --> 02:50:34,319
tens of thousands of dollars to get the

3605
02:50:34,319 --> 02:50:36,800
specialized equipment needed to do that.

3606
02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:40,000
the majority interrupt you there don't

3607
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:41,520
misunderstand but that's up to the billy

3608
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:43,279
to be turning for us

3609
02:50:43,279 --> 02:50:47,600
>> I apologize I mean no disrespect

3610
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:50,479
okay then I apologize for that then but

3611
02:50:50,479 --> 02:50:53,600
I would also say um that we have some

3612
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:56,160
very specialized equipment uh that would

3613
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:59,520
that require some specialized needs

3614
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:02,399
which I I know that the county does not

3615
02:51:02,399 --> 02:51:05,040
have uh that we are required to use

3616
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:08,000
vendors outside um of either the county

3617
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:10,240
and the state of Wyoming

3618
02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:14,438
for for our

3619
02:51:14,448 --> 02:51:15,200
[clears throat]

3620
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:18,319
and I appreciate that is a

3621
02:51:18,319 --> 02:51:22,399
possibility to say these are the things

3622
02:51:22,399 --> 02:51:25,760
policy from your perspective

3623
02:51:25,760 --> 02:51:27,600
and these are the items that we need to

3624
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:30,399
use outside 4579

3625
02:51:30,399 --> 02:51:32,399
is

3626
02:51:32,399 --> 02:51:34,479
conversation

3627
02:51:34,479 --> 02:51:37,760
I don't know that in general.

3628
02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:40,880
>> So I guess I I guess I guess guess my if

3629
02:51:40,880 --> 02:51:45,200
I were to have an ask um

3630
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:47,840
instead of creating policy

3631
02:51:47,840 --> 02:51:50,319
based on assumptions, I think we need to

3632
02:51:50,319 --> 02:51:53,120
have real numbers on what's it what it's

3633
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:55,520
actually going to cost the taxpayers of

3634
02:51:55,520 --> 02:51:57,840
this county before we put it into a a

3635
02:51:57,840 --> 02:52:02,230
policy.

3636
02:52:02,240 --> 02:52:05,200
I think that I'm only speaking as an

3637
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:06,960
individual

3638
02:52:06,960 --> 02:52:08,960
and again it's not directed towards any

3639
02:52:08,960 --> 02:52:12,720
department anyway but at the same time I

3640
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:17,040
mean I see [clears throat] the reports

3641
02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:21,200
council table coming in and I perceive

3642
02:52:21,200 --> 02:52:24,880
the agent excess suspended

3643
02:52:24,880 --> 02:52:28,319
legislation that the tax managers are

3644
02:52:28,319 --> 02:52:31,120
accepted they're both on

3645
02:52:31,120 --> 02:52:34,640
not being able to be very

3646
02:52:34,640 --> 02:52:37,520
responsible in a judiciary manner with

3647
02:52:37,520 --> 02:52:41,120
that and engage the book at the time to

3648
02:52:41,120 --> 02:52:43,840
save taxpayer money. That's a

3649
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:45,439
conversation that's been going on since

3650
02:52:45,439 --> 02:52:50,080
last budget year budget year before

3651
02:52:50,080 --> 02:52:54,870
that cost

3652
02:52:54,880 --> 02:52:56,399
and

3653
02:52:56,399 --> 02:52:58,640
if that's something that has not been

3654
02:52:58,640 --> 02:52:59,840
fully

3655
02:52:59,840 --> 02:53:02,880
embraced by different departments

3656
02:53:02,880 --> 02:53:06,319
will help them go back

3657
02:53:06,319 --> 02:53:12,630
because there are items on tables that

3658
02:53:12,640 --> 02:53:17,110
I don't view as

3659
02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:18,880
the individual department heads are not

3660
02:53:18,880 --> 02:53:23,680
able to come up with

3661
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:27,040
a process where they go out and

3662
02:53:27,040 --> 02:53:28,800
incompetitive

3663
02:53:28,800 --> 02:53:33,590
on a regular basis then

3664
02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:36,399
they're doing a good job complete.

3665
02:53:36,399 --> 02:53:38,880
That's just my

3666
02:53:38,880 --> 02:53:41,680
>> Okay. I I guess as a as a department

3667
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:43,840
head and also as an elective official, I

3668
02:53:43,840 --> 02:53:45,200
would have taken offense to that because

3669
02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:49,600
that's exactly what I tried to do with my fiscal budget every year for the

3670
02:53:49,600 --> 02:53:52,800
sheriff's office. I can I mean if that

3671
02:53:52,800 --> 02:53:56,560
is the case that you do feel that we are

3672
02:53:56,560 --> 02:53:59,279
spending exorbitantly then I think um we

3673
02:53:59,279 --> 02:54:02,160
need to as as the commissioners you need

3674
02:54:02,160 --> 02:54:03,600
to get the vouchers from the county

3675
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:05,840
clerk go through and then we have that

3676
02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:07,920
conversation as to why you think that

3677
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:10,240
that's overspending or not spending

3678
02:54:10,240 --> 02:54:12,319
wisely for with our taxpayer money.

3679
02:54:12,319 --> 02:54:14,000
>> I just gave you the illustration of the

3680
02:54:14,000 --> 02:54:16,479
tires and that's a basic one.

3681
02:54:16,479 --> 02:54:21,520
>> Sure. Um my rebuttal was um so now um

3682
02:54:21,520 --> 02:54:23,359
our deputies are all over the the

3683
02:54:23,359 --> 02:54:25,439
county. Some live in South County some

3684
02:54:25,439 --> 02:54:27,680
live in North County. Um the time for

3685
02:54:27,680 --> 02:54:30,479
them to take on their day off uh to

3686
02:54:30,479 --> 02:54:33,439
bring a vehicle in uh for tires, for

3687
02:54:33,439 --> 02:54:37,200
oil, is that going is that going to is

3688
02:54:37,200 --> 02:54:38,800
that going to be cost effective as to

3689
02:54:38,800 --> 02:54:43,120
what we're saving by uh buying a uh

3690
02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:44,880
a bunch of tires? And that's where I go

3691
02:54:44,880 --> 02:54:47,920
back to, you know, let's let's get let's

3692
02:54:47,920 --> 02:54:50,240
get the numbers first cuz I have those

3693
02:54:50,240 --> 02:54:52,080
and let's see what's going to be more

3694
02:54:52,080 --> 02:54:54,800
cost prohibitive.

3695
02:54:54,800 --> 02:54:57,120
I'd like to add a little I talked to one

3696
02:54:57,120 --> 02:55:01,040
case this weekend and we didn't discuss

3697
02:55:01,040 --> 02:55:03,520
tired but a simple oil change. He lives

3698
02:55:03,520 --> 02:55:06,560
down here and drop his vehicle off

3699
02:55:06,560 --> 02:55:08,720
service picked up when he's done goes

3700
02:55:08,720 --> 02:55:13,680
back on duty $90 oil change under it. He

3701
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:15,680
figures if he has finally he'll get time

3702
02:55:15,680 --> 02:55:17,680
and half on these days off go over there

3703
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:19,840
and wait for it to turn it into a $300

3704
02:55:19,840 --> 02:55:22,479
oil changer which is something I hadn't

3705
02:55:22,479 --> 02:55:24,319
thought of time paying him over time to

3706
02:55:24,319 --> 02:55:27,040
go over you know simple oil change for

3707
02:55:27,040 --> 02:55:28,880
South County

3708
02:55:28,880 --> 02:55:33,279
have gain money right here locally

3709
02:55:33,279 --> 02:55:36,319
so excuse

3710
02:55:36,319 --> 02:55:41,279
>> but is he not capable or the

3711
02:55:41,279 --> 02:55:43,120
deputy not capable

3712
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:47,200
of leaving the vehicle in jail or with

3713
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:50,720
Billy and taking another vehicle home.

3714
02:55:50,720 --> 02:55:52,640
So with our fleet currently, we don't

3715
02:55:52,640 --> 02:55:56,000
have vehicles that we can just provide a

3716
02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:58,560
deputy to take home for two days, three

3717
02:55:58,560 --> 02:56:00,800
days off. Um we have to have those

3718
02:56:00,800 --> 02:56:02,479
vehicles for our deputies that are on

3719
02:56:02,479 --> 02:56:05,040
the road that are working.

3720
02:56:05,040 --> 02:56:06,800
Did I answer your question?

3721
02:56:06,800 --> 02:56:08,720
I'm confused on that because if they're

3722
02:56:08,720 --> 02:56:11,439
off then they take the vehicle home with

3723
02:56:11,439 --> 02:56:13,279
them and it sits there for the few days

3724
02:56:13,279 --> 02:56:14,240
or stay.

3725
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:16,319
>> So that's I guess that was I guess I'm

3726
02:56:16,319 --> 02:56:18,399
trying to clarify. So are you expecting

3727
02:56:18,399 --> 02:56:20,560
them to drive their personal vehicle or

3728
02:56:20,560 --> 02:56:22,160
have somebody pick them up and take them

3729
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:24,399
home?

3730
02:56:24,399 --> 02:56:26,240
But back to the question that I was

3731
02:56:26,240 --> 02:56:29,359
asking on availability of units and

3732
02:56:29,359 --> 02:56:32,960
that's where we don't our our fleet is

3733
02:56:32,960 --> 02:56:35,279
diminished significantly uh because of

3734
02:56:35,279 --> 02:56:38,160
the you know no new vehicle or no new

3735
02:56:38,160 --> 02:56:41,040
vehicles for the past fiscal year. Um,

3736
02:56:41,040 --> 02:56:44,720
I've I've given my vehicle up. Um, our

3737
02:56:44,720 --> 02:56:46,640
patrol lieutenant has given his vehicle

3738
02:56:46,640 --> 02:56:51,200
up. Um, just so our deputies have a

3739
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:54,399
vehicle uh that is safe and reliable for

3740
02:56:54,399 --> 02:56:59,439
them to respond the calls. We don't have a vehicle where we can

3741
02:56:59,439 --> 02:57:02,880
just give to um a county employee to

3742
02:57:02,880 --> 02:57:05,279
leave um their county vehicle to take

3743
02:57:05,279 --> 02:57:07,680
home and stay there uh for their two

3744
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:10,479
days, three days off, then bring back um

3745
02:57:10,479 --> 02:57:15,190
to get their other vehicle.

3746
02:57:15,200 --> 02:57:18,160
» How many do you have to share? I don't

3747
02:57:18,160 --> 02:57:25,510
know the exact number.

3748
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:27,920
Other questions, comments?

3749
02:57:27,920 --> 02:57:30,240
>> Well, I'd like to make a comment. I

3750
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:33,510
can't

3751
02:57:33,520 --> 02:57:36,960
change for you if I can take this

3752
02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:40,160
for my personal deal.

3753
02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:43,359
I can call up and I can say, "Hey, I got

3754
02:57:43,359 --> 02:57:54,389
to get my oil changed." generator

3755
02:57:54,399 --> 02:57:58,469
that I use

3756
02:57:58,479 --> 02:58:02,640
go in there like there.

3757
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:07,670
So would appear to be

3758
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:12,000
kind of average on on oil change

3759
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:15,680
have time after time after time

3760
02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:18,880
or ask hey can I get my vehicle back at

3761
02:58:18,880 --> 02:58:22,640
such and such a time yeah sure I sit

3762
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:25,920
down read a book they give me the call

3763
02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:28,880
it's an hour or less and then oil change

3764
02:58:28,880 --> 02:58:31,760
so

3765
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:34,960
I I'm looking at

3766
02:58:34,960 --> 02:58:37,279
why should it be much different than for

3767
02:58:37,279 --> 02:58:41,359
a deputy to call up and say if he's in

3768
02:58:41,359 --> 02:58:46,150
the county we make

3769
02:58:46,160 --> 02:58:50,080
a scheduled stop say hey I'm going to be

3770
02:58:50,080 --> 02:58:52,880
in town I'll be like be there at 10:00

3771
02:58:52,880 --> 02:58:55,760
can you get me chat I don't know I'm not

3772
02:58:55,760 --> 02:58:57,760
talking for Billy I don't know how they

3773
02:58:57,760 --> 02:58:59,680
are there all

3774
02:58:59,680 --> 02:59:02,880
for my personal

3775
02:59:02,880 --> 02:59:06,479
perspective. So my suspicion is they

3776
02:59:06,479 --> 02:59:08,960
could set up that also is in the big

3777
02:59:08,960 --> 02:59:11,439
deal. The old one or two is not but over

3778
02:59:11,439 --> 02:59:14,399
time it becomes one and [clears throat]

3779
02:59:14,399 --> 02:59:19,030
and we talk about

3780
02:59:19,040 --> 02:59:22,640
been underneath all

3781
02:59:22,640 --> 02:59:25,520
it's twice as much

3782
02:59:25,520 --> 02:59:31,429
for any of the county departments

3783
02:59:31,439 --> 02:59:34,870
later

3784
02:59:34,880 --> 02:59:37,439
twice

3785
02:59:37,439 --> 02:59:41,600
and that's a significant over time.

3786
02:59:41,600 --> 02:59:43,439
Those are the kind of things we can look

3787
02:59:43,439 --> 02:59:50,479
at and say, "Well, that's why that's in policy because

3788
02:59:50,479 --> 02:59:54,950
you guys

3789
02:59:54,960 --> 02:59:58,000
put us in a position of

3790
02:59:58,000 --> 03:00:00,560
do we care, do we not care? Do we listen

3791
03:00:00,560 --> 03:00:03,520
to the community say hey how come?" We

3792
03:00:03,520 --> 03:00:05,279
have an answer for the hey, how come?

3793
03:00:05,279 --> 03:00:08,720
Sometimes we don't because we don't know

3794
03:00:08,720 --> 03:00:11,120
why.

3795
03:00:11,120 --> 03:00:15,040
is it okay to spend 14 $1,500 on a

3796
03:00:15,040 --> 03:00:18,240
set of tires and you can do it for sale?

3797
03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:23,349
How do I answer that?

3798
03:00:23,359 --> 03:00:27,520
And an answer is truthfully

3799
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:29,520
those are the things over time that

3800
03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:32,399
we're trying to slow down as far as the

3801
03:00:32,399 --> 03:00:35,200
vehicles go.

3802
03:00:35,200 --> 03:00:37,200
I know the specialized equipment is

3803
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:38,720
something that could be a little

3804
03:00:38,720 --> 03:00:42,560
different, but I'll guarantee

3805
03:00:42,560 --> 03:00:47,680
that if I go out there and I try to find

3806
03:00:47,680 --> 03:00:51,200
four Ford Broncos or Ford Jeep

3807
03:00:51,200 --> 03:00:55,120
Gladiators or whatever it might be,

3808
03:00:55,120 --> 03:00:58,800
I can get them out fairly reasonable.

3809
03:00:58,800 --> 03:01:02,080
You can bring them back and go get up. I

3810
03:01:02,080 --> 03:01:05,439
guess that's a terrible

3811
03:01:05,439 --> 03:01:07,520
I don't think I'm talking about that.

3812
03:01:07,520 --> 03:01:09,520
What we're talking about is that the

3813
03:01:09,520 --> 03:01:16,790
vehicle gets set permanent policy allow

3814
03:01:16,800 --> 03:01:19,279
this case

3815
03:01:19,279 --> 03:01:22,080
to say okay we're going to go we get

3816
03:01:22,080 --> 03:01:24,399
fors and we get cheap we get what you

3817
03:01:24,399 --> 03:01:25,920
guys would like and we're going to put

3818
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:27,920
it together so that when it's all said

3819
03:01:27,920 --> 03:01:32,720
and done it's a substantial savings

3820
03:01:32,720 --> 03:01:35,680
I've grown with that I think the people

3821
03:01:35,680 --> 03:01:37,120
of faith

3822
03:01:37,120 --> 03:01:41,120
our salaries expected or they should

3823
03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:43,120
and I think that's what this procurement

3824
03:01:43,120 --> 03:01:47,040
policy is designed to try to do is to

3825
03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:49,680
eliminate some overrun

3826
03:01:49,680 --> 03:01:52,800
things that

3827
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:56,000
not necessarily

3828
03:01:56,000 --> 03:01:57,840
understand the concerns you got

3829
03:01:57,840 --> 03:02:01,520
understanding concerns and problem

3830
03:02:01,520 --> 03:02:04,479
but the primary concern should be are we

3831
03:02:04,479 --> 03:02:06,319
treating the taxpayers have been as

3832
03:02:06,319 --> 03:02:10,720
brutally as we should be or as we can

3833
03:02:10,720 --> 03:02:13,600
my perspective that's the ultimate goal

3834
03:02:13,600 --> 03:02:15,200
I'm not going to put you in a pink

3835
03:02:15,200 --> 03:02:17,760
scooter maker but I don't think you

3836
03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:23,349
needed a Cadillac there

3837
03:02:23,359 --> 03:02:26,870
your needs

3838
03:02:26,880 --> 03:02:29,359
satisfy somebody from outside and says

3839
03:02:29,359 --> 03:02:32,560
hey how come they're driving $100,000

3840
03:02:32,560 --> 03:02:34,720
in fact they know you drive 60 and all

3841
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:36,966
this stuff

3842
03:02:36,966 --> 03:02:37,279
>> [snorts]

3843
03:02:37,279 --> 03:02:41,269
>> 30 40,000 unfair

3844
03:02:41,279 --> 03:02:43,359
and so those are the kind of things I

3845
03:02:43,359 --> 03:02:46,479
think we're looking at to try to

3846
03:02:46,479 --> 03:02:50,319
bring back if you would in perspective

3847
03:02:50,319 --> 03:02:52,960
and the little things amount to big

3848
03:02:52,960 --> 03:02:57,680
things just being forever so we can slow

3849
03:02:57,680 --> 03:03:00,319
down things

3850
03:03:00,319 --> 03:03:05,030
I think over trying to accomplish

3851
03:03:05,040 --> 03:03:08,800
policies intended to do and for myself

3852
03:03:08,800 --> 03:03:11,600
when we put this together. I said, you

3853
03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:12,800
know, I know there going to have to be

3854
03:03:12,800 --> 03:03:14,960
some give and take. We're going to have

3855
03:03:14,960 --> 03:03:16,800
to put back there and we're going to

3856
03:03:16,800 --> 03:03:20,240
give some some feedback from the bargain

3857
03:03:20,240 --> 03:03:23,520
and we're going to expand it and ex

3858
03:03:23,520 --> 03:03:25,840
say I don't know about this and that's

3859
03:03:25,840 --> 03:03:27,920
why you're here today so we can look at

3860
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:30,479
some of these things figure out what's

3861
03:03:30,479 --> 03:03:33,359
overall for the community. I don't think

3862
03:03:33,359 --> 03:03:37,110
anybody

3863
03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:39,680
have a vehicle

3864
03:03:39,680 --> 03:03:42,160
to get the job done,

3865
03:03:42,160 --> 03:03:44,240
but you're going to be responsible for

3866
03:03:44,240 --> 03:03:47,840
putting on the extra stuff. And I know

3867
03:03:47,840 --> 03:03:53,750
there's a lot of it. I see.

3868
03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:57,840
So I think that for me it's it's it's

3869
03:03:57,840 --> 03:04:00,240
prudent to try to

3870
03:04:00,240 --> 03:04:02,399
tear down some of the expenses if we can

3871
03:04:02,399 --> 03:04:04,640
do so without

3872
03:04:04,640 --> 03:04:07,040
any department

3873
03:04:07,040 --> 03:04:10,632
policy. That's

3874
03:04:10,632 --> 03:04:11,760
[clears throat]

3875
03:04:11,760 --> 03:04:14,960
especially the fact that if everything

3876
03:04:14,960 --> 03:04:17,600
is appointed the way it looks like we're

3877
03:04:17,600 --> 03:04:23,910
going to be learning the downsides

3878
03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:28,560
so to speak that makes it some

3879
03:04:28,560 --> 03:04:30,880
I would prefer

3880
03:04:30,880 --> 03:04:34,160
matter of fact I will not touch the

3881
03:04:34,160 --> 03:04:37,120
salaries I will not touch the employment

3882
03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:38,560
of the factor

3883
03:04:38,560 --> 03:04:40,160
because those people need to make a

3884
03:04:40,160 --> 03:04:42,080
living too. But I doesn't bother me at

3885
03:04:42,080 --> 03:04:45,359
least cut out what I think might be a

3886
03:04:45,359 --> 03:04:46,640
little bit of a fluff here, a little

3887
03:04:46,640 --> 03:04:48,800
fluff there. And this time of year to

3888
03:04:48,800 --> 03:04:50,960
begin to see some of that all of a

3889
03:04:50,960 --> 03:04:53,760
sudden there's not just any one

3890
03:04:53,760 --> 03:04:56,560
department with most department. Wow.

3891
03:04:56,560 --> 03:05:00,399
Where'd that come from? It's a $25,000

3892
03:05:00,399 --> 03:05:02,080
some

3893
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:05,279
heard of you. see a lot of that from now

3894
03:05:05,279 --> 03:05:09,510
to the next

3895
03:05:09,520 --> 03:05:12,240
budget session

3896
03:05:12,240 --> 03:05:26,710
and so that's stuff from my perspective

3897
03:05:26,720 --> 03:05:31,510
but for those

3898
03:05:31,520 --> 03:05:33,680
under the fluff that maybe doesn't need

3899
03:05:33,680 --> 03:05:37,040
to be involved.

3900
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:38,399
That's what I'm going to look for quite

3901
03:05:38,399 --> 03:05:41,920
honestly. You didn't explain such

3902
03:05:41,920 --> 03:05:44,960
I'm going to look

3903
03:05:44,960 --> 03:05:46,720
I'm going to pick my guns in some

3904
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:50,479
business cuz I don't think it's wise

3905
03:05:50,479 --> 03:05:52,240
charact

3906
03:05:52,240 --> 03:05:56,080
private business somebody

3907
03:05:56,080 --> 03:05:59,120
I don't think it's wise to spend if you

3908
03:05:59,120 --> 03:06:00,240
don't know what you're going to have

3909
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:02,319
come in

3910
03:06:02,319 --> 03:06:05,040
doesn't make sense to me

3911
03:06:05,040 --> 03:06:07,359
well if I take more out of my saving

3912
03:06:07,359 --> 03:06:08,880
else

3913
03:06:08,880 --> 03:06:11,279
than I put back in it. After a while, my

3914
03:06:11,279 --> 03:06:13,359
savings accounts gone. That's the same

3915
03:06:13,359 --> 03:06:16,160
thing with reserves, accounting spend

3916
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:19,040
over time. The amount of money we just

3917
03:06:19,040 --> 03:06:21,920
spend a million something here today in

3918
03:06:21,920 --> 03:06:24,240
two weeks.

3919
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:27,120
So over time

3920
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:31,520
the earth which looks huge

3921
03:06:31,520 --> 03:06:35,910
may not hear

3922
03:06:35,920 --> 03:06:40,550
policy update way start

3923
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:43,760
maybe squeeze down

3924
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:45,600
understand everybody says oh I can't do

3925
03:06:45,600 --> 03:06:49,520
without this that's okay let's try

3926
03:06:49,520 --> 03:06:53,750
that's my take

3927
03:06:53,760 --> 03:06:56,319
Mr. Chair, Mr. Commissioner, Chairman

3928
03:06:56,319 --> 03:06:58,880
Vicky. Um, so to answer some of your

3929
03:06:58,880 --> 03:07:00,960
points again, I think we're going back

3930
03:07:00,960 --> 03:07:04,160
to presumption. Um, and I I'm someone

3931
03:07:04,160 --> 03:07:07,040
that works in, you know, the facts. I

3932
03:07:07,040 --> 03:07:08,560
don't want to I don't want to create a

3933
03:07:08,560 --> 03:07:11,600
policy uh based on assumptions or

3934
03:07:11,600 --> 03:07:14,160
presumptions. And um I heard you say

3935
03:07:14,160 --> 03:07:15,760
that

3936
03:07:15,760 --> 03:07:18,479
by um

3937
03:07:18,479 --> 03:07:21,840
ordering uh a lot of tires and not

3938
03:07:21,840 --> 03:07:23,520
having to pay the taxes, not having to

3939
03:07:23,520 --> 03:07:24,880
pay the shipping and handling, not

3940
03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:28,000
having to pay um you know the up the up

3941
03:07:28,000 --> 03:07:30,640
cost in that that it's half of what

3942
03:07:30,640 --> 03:07:33,279
we're paying right now. Um I'd like to

3943
03:07:33,279 --> 03:07:39,990
see the real numbers on that unless you have those.

3944
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:42,560
So, I mean, and I can also vouch I can

3945
03:07:42,560 --> 03:07:44,319
vouch for some of our local businesses,

3946
03:07:44,319 --> 03:07:46,399
too, that they aren't charging us any

3947
03:07:46,399 --> 03:07:48,800
more than they charge the public on an

3948
03:07:48,800 --> 03:07:51,200
oil change, on tire rotations, on the

3949
03:07:51,200 --> 03:07:53,680
purchase of tires just because we're the

3950
03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:55,840
county entity.

3951
03:07:55,840 --> 03:07:57,760
I personally know they would they would

3952
03:07:57,760 --> 03:08:00,319
not do that to us or or the county

3953
03:08:00,319 --> 03:08:01,840
because they're part of this community,

3954
03:08:01,840 --> 03:08:05,200
too. There are there

3955
03:08:05,200 --> 03:08:09,110
is

3956
03:08:09,120 --> 03:08:12,000
no problem was not saying we overcharge

3957
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:16,479
the county versus the private investment

3958
03:08:16,479 --> 03:08:20,000
but I think that uh commissioner vry

3959
03:08:20,000 --> 03:08:23,040
made the statement that um that the uh

3960
03:08:23,040 --> 03:08:24,800
the cost goes up because of that that

3961
03:08:24,800 --> 03:08:26,960
they get charged um significant amount

3962
03:08:26,960 --> 03:08:30,399
percentage percentage amount

3963
03:08:30,399 --> 03:08:31,600
to the year to the year they're

3964
03:08:31,600 --> 03:08:33,040
reporting by their deputies

3965
03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:36,319
um get them oil changes, tire rotations

3966
03:08:36,319 --> 03:08:38,479
while they're on duty. We can do that.

3967
03:08:38,479 --> 03:08:40,080
But if you've received complaints, I've

3968
03:08:40,080 --> 03:08:42,080
received the complaints. If they see our

3969
03:08:42,080 --> 03:08:44,080
deputy on the side of the road that's

3970
03:08:44,080 --> 03:08:45,760
stationary for more than 10 minutes,

3971
03:08:45,760 --> 03:08:46,960
they're calling me and saying, "Hey,

3972
03:08:46,960 --> 03:08:48,880
what why isn't he why isn't he

3973
03:08:48,880 --> 03:08:50,640
responding to traffic? Why isn't he

3974
03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:52,640
stopping vehicles?" Now, we're going to

3975
03:08:52,640 --> 03:08:53,920
have deputies that are going to be

3976
03:08:53,920 --> 03:08:58,000
sitting um in a lobby in uniform.

3977
03:08:58,000 --> 03:08:59,680
What's the public perception going to be

3978
03:08:59,680 --> 03:09:01,600
there?

3979
03:09:01,600 --> 03:09:03,439
Well, if you're

3980
03:09:03,439 --> 03:09:08,150
want

3981
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:10,479
to do that, I can. If I don't want to,

3982
03:09:10,479 --> 03:09:13,439
but I'm going to pay you right now.

3983
03:09:13,439 --> 03:09:15,680
Go around the county

3984
03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:17,920
and ask me

3985
03:09:17,920 --> 03:09:22,790
people, they'll say,

3986
03:09:22,800 --> 03:09:24,720
down here side by side wondering what to

3987
03:09:24,720 --> 03:09:28,479
do. I drive by I drive by up there,

3988
03:09:28,479 --> 03:09:31,920
customer time after time after time.

3989
03:09:31,920 --> 03:09:33,439
Two guys are set. They're going to face

3990
03:09:33,439 --> 03:09:37,359
the one way the other. I come by there.

3991
03:09:37,359 --> 03:09:40,399
They face one side, one the other. 65

3992
03:09:40,399 --> 03:09:44,399
miles an hour. Guy asking me in a hurry

3993
03:09:44,399 --> 03:09:46,640
to get in

3994
03:09:46,640 --> 03:09:51,120
mile and a half. I know he's going 80.

3995
03:09:51,120 --> 03:09:55,670
Why don't we

3996
03:09:55,680 --> 03:09:57,359
make any difference? I'm not the one

3997
03:09:57,359 --> 03:09:59,279
that's going to do it. I'm going to say

3998
03:09:59,279 --> 03:10:01,120
again

3999
03:10:01,120 --> 03:10:03,279
in this

4000
03:10:03,279 --> 03:10:06,560
but it happens

4001
03:10:06,560 --> 03:10:09,920
I I see

4002
03:10:09,920 --> 03:10:14,319
by the fish turn after time I travel

4003
03:10:14,319 --> 03:10:18,160
time after time after time and I know

4004
03:10:18,160 --> 03:10:26,550
they're doing their job

4005
03:10:26,560 --> 03:10:38,150
their lives

4006
03:10:38,160 --> 03:10:40,479
But I need to come back to the point in

4007
03:10:40,479 --> 03:10:55,910
order.

4008
03:10:55,920 --> 03:10:58,160
» Mr. chairman. Um I'll I'll be I'll be

4009
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:01,359
brief and I'll end um but uh again I

4010
03:11:01,359 --> 03:11:03,439
appreciate the opportunity to at least

4011
03:11:03,439 --> 03:11:05,520
talk about it discuss I think I think

4012
03:11:05,520 --> 03:11:08,399
there's a lot of ed education that can

4013
03:11:08,399 --> 03:11:12,080
be done u on both sides and I may be

4014
03:11:12,080 --> 03:11:14,000
happy to sit down and listen to that as

4015
03:11:14,000 --> 03:11:18,000
well um because I'm not a

4016
03:11:18,000 --> 03:11:21,439
not an accountant and uh but I do you

4017
03:11:21,439 --> 03:11:24,720
know personally um I take it upon myself

4018
03:11:24,720 --> 03:11:26,160
to responsibly

4019
03:11:26,160 --> 03:11:28,160
budget every year. I can tell you for

4020
03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:32,319
the past decade um the word has been to

4021
03:11:32,319 --> 03:11:35,120
maintain or cut our budgets and I've

4022
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:37,359
done that every year. My budget that I

4023
03:11:37,359 --> 03:11:40,319
had in two 2016 when I started is

4024
03:11:40,319 --> 03:11:42,960
probably more or equal to the budget I

4025
03:11:42,960 --> 03:11:46,240
have now. So it's government obviously

4026
03:11:46,240 --> 03:11:49,040
we're going to do less and we cut all

4027
03:11:49,040 --> 03:11:51,920
the time. Um and we have cut we cut

4028
03:11:51,920 --> 03:11:53,920
physicians uh within the department

4029
03:11:53,920 --> 03:11:55,920
through attrition instead of having to

4030
03:11:55,920 --> 03:12:00,160
let people go. Um I dismissed my under

4031
03:12:00,160 --> 03:12:02,000
sheriff uh just so we wouldn't have to

4032
03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:05,279
cut employees um no longer have that you

4033
03:12:05,279 --> 03:12:08,000
know that position uh to help out with

4034
03:12:08,000 --> 03:12:11,520
all of our departments. So I I

4035
03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:13,840
understand working in government. I've

4036
03:12:13,840 --> 03:12:16,399
done it long enough to know um that yeah

4037
03:12:16,399 --> 03:12:18,720
this is what we deal with. um we're not

4038
03:12:18,720 --> 03:12:21,439
a private entity where um you know we

4039
03:12:21,439 --> 03:12:25,600
can just create more money or money can come in and we have that

4040
03:12:25,600 --> 03:12:27,920
luxury but I also want you to know that

4041
03:12:27,920 --> 03:12:31,760
I'm not someone um that is um for fluff

4042
03:12:31,760 --> 03:12:34,319
or I feel that we allow our depending

4043
03:12:34,319 --> 03:12:36,399
what we need of our department to add

4044
03:12:36,399 --> 03:12:39,760
fluff um to our to our budget every

4045
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:44,240
month. So with that and I appreciate

4046
03:12:44,240 --> 03:12:46,720
that that being said, do you think that

4047
03:12:46,720 --> 03:12:49,279
there would be the opportunity and

4048
03:12:49,279 --> 03:12:52,720
latitude to sit down and say what

4049
03:12:52,720 --> 03:12:54,880
commission is proposing

4050
03:12:54,880 --> 03:12:56,640
not ideal

4051
03:12:56,640 --> 03:13:00,160
and what I have maybe on the opposite

4052
03:13:00,160 --> 03:13:02,080
end of the spectrum and might have a

4053
03:13:02,080 --> 03:13:06,960
place in that we make this that

4054
03:13:06,960 --> 03:13:10,319
everyone's needs. Is that a possibility?

4055
03:13:10,319 --> 03:13:13,200
>> I I believe so, Mr. Chairman. Um the

4056
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:15,840
thing is is um we've cut all the fat

4057
03:13:15,840 --> 03:13:19,760
that we can um with the increase in uh

4058
03:13:19,760 --> 03:13:23,760
taxes, prices. Um

4059
03:13:23,760 --> 03:13:27,600
inflation um it's uh it's difficult and

4060
03:13:27,600 --> 03:13:30,640
uh I'm afraid if we are going to cut um

4061
03:13:30,640 --> 03:13:32,880
it'll have to be personnel and I'm I'm

4062
03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:35,760
prepared for that. So

4063
03:13:35,760 --> 03:13:52,229
personality

4064
03:13:52,239 --> 03:13:54,319
I I app I appreciate that sentiment and

4065
03:13:54,319 --> 03:13:56,640
I think the ones that are on on the

4066
03:13:56,640 --> 03:14:01,040
online appreciate that sentiment too. still

4067
03:14:01,040 --> 03:14:05,830
and so it's not

4068
03:14:05,840 --> 03:14:08,720
how you do that

4069
03:14:08,720 --> 03:14:12,640
and think

4070
03:14:12,640 --> 03:14:15,040
and I understand the procurement policy

4071
03:14:15,040 --> 03:14:17,520
hasn't been broached before obviously

4072
03:14:17,520 --> 03:14:20,560
and so all you can do is take the best

4073
03:14:20,560 --> 03:14:23,439
yes approach at the onset and hope that

4074
03:14:23,439 --> 03:14:25,680
you come up with we'll be glad we're

4075
03:14:25,680 --> 03:14:27,359
able to give the departments of the

4076
03:14:27,359 --> 03:14:28,319
constru

4077
03:14:28,319 --> 03:14:32,880
other students. Yes, you're long. I know

4078
03:14:32,880 --> 03:14:35,680
this works, but you missed this. We save

4079
03:14:35,680 --> 03:14:37,439
money here. That's all we're trying to

4080
03:14:37,439 --> 03:14:40,800
do. Sheriff and I and I do and I think I

4081
03:14:40,800 --> 03:14:41,920
said that at the beginning and I

4082
03:14:41,920 --> 03:14:43,520
appreciate just the opportunity to talk

4083
03:14:43,520 --> 03:14:44,080
about it,

4084
03:14:44,080 --> 03:14:44,640
>> right?

4085
03:14:44,640 --> 03:14:46,800
>> I do have to Yeah. have to disagree with

4086
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:48,479
some things and I'm happy to sit down

4087
03:14:48,479 --> 03:14:50,640
and discuss those. I think we actually

4088
03:14:50,640 --> 03:14:52,960
need to put dollars to dollars u to make

4089
03:14:52,960 --> 03:14:54,720
sure that we are saving the tax people

4090
03:14:54,720 --> 03:15:01,429
money. I really appreciate it.

4091
03:15:01,439 --> 03:15:03,920
We'll work together.

4092
03:15:03,920 --> 03:15:09,590
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr.

4093
03:15:09,600 --> 03:15:20,870
Anyone else?

4094
03:15:20,880 --> 03:15:22,670
I'm just

4095
03:15:22,670 --> 03:15:25,040
[clears throat] my issues. what I see

4096
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:29,279
with the with room bridge is um I'm kind

4097
03:15:29,279 --> 03:15:30,960
of different than a lot of departments

4098
03:15:30,960 --> 03:15:33,040
because everything I do is a lot of

4099
03:15:33,040 --> 03:15:37,200
money you know um

4100
03:15:37,200 --> 03:15:40,160
I order fuel every 10 days that's always

4101
03:15:40,160 --> 03:15:44,399
over 35,000 and so the 35,000 is the the

4102
03:15:44,399 --> 03:15:51,680
bid I bid the fuel anyway um I guess my whole thing about the 7500 and the

4103
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:55,920
35,000 is is everything I do. You know,

4104
03:15:55,920 --> 03:15:58,239
covers, you know, when I order them, I

4105
03:15:58,239 --> 03:16:00,720
do get I always bid every day, get

4106
03:16:00,720 --> 03:16:05,760
prices. Um, my biggest thing is, and

4107
03:16:05,760 --> 03:16:08,560
I, you know, I'm I'm an open book. I'll

4108
03:16:08,560 --> 03:16:10,319
bring you guys I'll talk to you every

4109
03:16:10,319 --> 03:16:14,160
two weeks on everything I do. Um, the

4110
03:16:14,160 --> 03:16:17,520
$7,500 thing uh to get approval and

4111
03:16:17,520 --> 03:16:19,520
stuff after that.

4112
03:16:19,520 --> 03:16:21,840
If if I heard if I have a motor grater

4113
03:16:21,840 --> 03:16:24,720
go down most time it's always over $7500

4114
03:16:24,720 --> 03:16:28,080
to get it fixed and that's the stuff I

4115
03:16:28,080 --> 03:16:32,319
just scares me a little bit. I'm afraid

4116
03:16:32,319 --> 03:16:35,120
um it's going to hinder. I mean, we're 7

4117
03:16:35,120 --> 03:16:38,800
days a week, you know, 24 hours 77 if we

4118
03:16:38,800 --> 03:16:42,080
have to. And I So, I I jump on getting

4119
03:16:42,080 --> 03:16:45,200
stuff fixed and and and everything. And

4120
03:16:45,200 --> 03:16:48,399
then like fueling and the sealed bin

4121
03:16:48,399 --> 03:16:51,760
thing, I I kind of don't know how that's

4122
03:16:51,760 --> 03:16:54,479
going to work. The time frames what

4123
03:16:54,479 --> 03:16:57,120
scares me on stuff. Um cutting edges,

4124
03:16:57,120 --> 03:16:59,520
you know, I I you guys see the invoices.

4125
03:16:59,520 --> 03:17:02,319
I spend $200,000 a year on that because

4126
03:17:02,319 --> 03:17:06,479
it's um a set of blades that I go

4127
03:17:06,479 --> 03:17:10,640
through probably three sets a year on my

4128
03:17:10,640 --> 03:17:16,160
order, you know, maybe 2,000 a set. Um

4129
03:17:16,160 --> 03:17:19,279
but a lot of it's availability, you

4130
03:17:19,279 --> 03:17:23,279
know. Um, I I watch on when I'm buying

4131
03:17:23,279 --> 03:17:25,760
these parts a lot of times, you know,

4132
03:17:25,760 --> 03:17:28,080
where I get my cutting edges and stuff.

4133
03:17:28,080 --> 03:17:31,680
They're, you know, they're 60 days out,

4134
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:34,640
you know, 90 days out. So, if they're in

4135
03:17:34,640 --> 03:17:36,560
stock, I'll buy an extra set because I

4136
03:17:36,560 --> 03:17:38,080
know I'm going to use them. That's the

4137
03:17:38,080 --> 03:17:40,479
stuff that kind of scares me just, you

4138
03:17:40,479 --> 03:17:44,479
know, moneywise. Um, so you know, um, if

4139
03:17:44,479 --> 03:17:46,319
I had a way to come to a meeting to say,

4140
03:17:46,319 --> 03:17:49,600
"Hey, I need to, you know, I'm like I

4141
03:17:49,600 --> 03:17:52,399
just it it's just I'm afraid it's going

4142
03:17:52,399 --> 03:17:55,600
to slow process down a little bit for

4143
03:17:55,600 --> 03:17:59,439
me." Um, that like like the fuel like,

4144
03:17:59,439 --> 03:18:01,680
you know, every 10 days, like I said, it

4145
03:18:01,680 --> 03:18:03,600
just depends on fuel prices. You know,

4146
03:18:03,600 --> 03:18:05,520
fuel prices were lower. So I've been

4147
03:18:05,520 --> 03:18:08,960
about 38,000 every 10 days, but now you

4148
03:18:08,960 --> 03:18:12,080
know I'll be up to because the prices

4149
03:18:12,080 --> 03:18:16,800
I'll be more 40 50,000. Um so I guess

4150
03:18:16,800 --> 03:18:20,160
with me the number wise kind of affects

4151
03:18:20,160 --> 03:18:22,000
my operation.

4152
03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:23,760
Um

4153
03:18:23,760 --> 03:18:26,720
and and like I said, I'm an open book.

4154
03:18:26,720 --> 03:18:28,800
Um I've been doing the road bridge

4155
03:18:28,800 --> 03:18:31,120
budgeting since 2007.

4156
03:18:31,120 --> 03:18:34,399
Um I think I'm kind of like Casey. If

4157
03:18:34,399 --> 03:18:36,479
you look at some of my budgets, I'm way

4158
03:18:36,479 --> 03:18:40,080
lower than I ever have been um on stuff.

4159
03:18:40,080 --> 03:18:43,520
Um I mean, and I know this year's bad.

4160
03:18:43,520 --> 03:18:45,600
I'm not going to ask for any equipment,

4161
03:18:45,600 --> 03:18:48,800
any anything under the point of bare

4162
03:18:48,800 --> 03:18:50,640
bones, too. I mean, the only thing I can

4163
03:18:50,640 --> 03:18:55,520
cut more is is personnel. Um the thing

4164
03:18:55,520 --> 03:18:57,680
that scares me is like our equipment and

4165
03:18:57,680 --> 03:19:00,000
stuff is getting, you know, it's all

4166
03:19:00,000 --> 03:19:02,640
pretty much off warranty. I mean, you

4167
03:19:02,640 --> 03:19:03,920
guys know, we talked last year about

4168
03:19:03,920 --> 03:19:06,000
budgeting my motivators. You know, I

4169
03:19:06,000 --> 03:19:08,000
tried to get rid of them around 8,000

4170
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:10,960
hours. You know, more than half of them

4171
03:19:10,960 --> 03:19:14,319
have right they're right there. Um, my

4172
03:19:14,319 --> 03:19:16,000
12 trucks, I mean, I know everyone says,

4173
03:19:16,000 --> 03:19:19,439
"Oh, bridge got new trucks." Almost

4174
03:19:19,439 --> 03:19:21,200
every one of them trucks are 25 years

4175
03:19:21,200 --> 03:19:25,359
old, you know, and so this winter I was

4176
03:19:25,359 --> 03:19:27,600
lucky. We didn't have a winner, so I

4177
03:19:27,600 --> 03:19:29,520
didn't I didn't have to push him. But

4178
03:19:29,520 --> 03:19:32,640
the things that things get I mean it's

4179
03:19:32,640 --> 03:19:35,439
fine. I keep on going but it costs more

4180
03:19:35,439 --> 03:19:37,040
money to fix and the stuff that's

4181
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:39,439
breaking is more expensive. So that's

4182
03:19:39,439 --> 03:19:42,319
what scares me about this 35,000 stuff

4183
03:19:42,319 --> 03:19:44,479
now that you know I don't know how you

4184
03:19:44,479 --> 03:19:46,239
want me to do the parts and stuff like

4185
03:19:46,239 --> 03:19:48,880
that because you you see I mean I had

4186
03:19:48,880 --> 03:19:54,160
that dozer go down and you know that was just for one one little you

4187
03:19:54,160 --> 03:19:57,840
know motor hydro hydrostatic motor on it

4188
03:19:57,840 --> 03:20:00,960
and you know it was 46,000

4189
03:20:00,960 --> 03:20:02,560
um

4190
03:20:02,560 --> 03:20:07,920
so that's my you know I mean my problems

4191
03:20:07,920 --> 03:20:10,160
with it is just the dollar amount for my

4192
03:20:10,160 --> 03:20:13,520
operation, you know. Um, I do bid

4193
03:20:13,520 --> 03:20:15,279
everything out. I mean, I bid out all

4194
03:20:15,279 --> 03:20:18,399
the propane for all the buildings every

4195
03:20:18,399 --> 03:20:21,279
year. I estimate how much we're going to

4196
03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:24,399
use. Like I I So I I mean, I try to save

4197
03:20:24,399 --> 03:20:28,080
the county as much money as I can. Um,

4198
03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:31,279
on the tire, I I submit them forms every

4199
03:20:31,279 --> 03:20:33,279
year so we get the government discounts,

4200
03:20:33,279 --> 03:20:41,760
so we get them for half price. Um, so I do not try to just um blow my budget.

4201
03:20:41,760 --> 03:20:46,160
I really don't. Um, but on some things

4202
03:20:46,160 --> 03:20:50,800
like a seal bid over 35,000 is kind of,

4203
03:20:50,800 --> 03:20:53,680
you know, that's going to take a lot a

4204
03:20:53,680 --> 03:20:55,520
lot of effort to put in there, you know,

4205
03:20:55,520 --> 03:20:57,520
to make sure and we don't get ourselves

4206
03:20:57,520 --> 03:20:59,520
in trouble. And and I guess I don't know

4207
03:20:59,520 --> 03:21:02,720
how how particular you want to be on

4208
03:21:02,720 --> 03:21:05,520
them bids and stuff like that if we you

4209
03:21:05,520 --> 03:21:08,720
know um and a lot of it's just time and

4210
03:21:08,720 --> 03:21:12,160
availability with my with my department

4211
03:21:12,160 --> 03:21:16,319
um of getting stuff. So that's that's

4212
03:21:16,319 --> 03:21:20,319
all. So when you accumulate things and

4213
03:21:20,319 --> 03:21:23,920
then submit for government pricing.

4214
03:21:23,920 --> 03:21:28,000
>> Yeah. When you purchase a tire at one of

4215
03:21:28,000 --> 03:21:30,479
the outside vendors, are they also

4216
03:21:30,479 --> 03:21:36,160
subject to government pricing? No. You got to no local person can get

4217
03:21:36,160 --> 03:21:37,840
government pricing. You got to be a

4218
03:21:37,840 --> 03:21:39,359
government agency and you got to fill

4219
03:21:39,359 --> 03:21:42,000
out forms and everything and we got to

4220
03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:44,560
put, you know, all all our information

4221
03:21:44,560 --> 03:21:48,080
and stuff down. And then I have to sign

4222
03:21:48,080 --> 03:21:50,560
when when we get every every time I

4223
03:21:50,560 --> 03:21:53,200
every year I have to sign saying that

4224
03:21:53,200 --> 03:21:55,359
them tires will only be used on

4225
03:21:55,359 --> 03:21:59,520
government vehicles. So with that said

4226
03:21:59,520 --> 03:22:02,560
because I don't know we presume that you

4227
03:22:02,560 --> 03:22:05,670
could

4228
03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:07,520
pick up for the sheriff's department

4229
03:22:07,520 --> 03:22:08,640
also for his vehicle.

4230
03:22:08,640 --> 03:22:11,040
>> Correct. And we have so many times Case

4231
03:22:11,040 --> 03:22:13,680
Casey and Casey Casey could buy off of

4232
03:22:13,680 --> 03:22:16,880
this too. Right. Only through only

4233
03:22:16,880 --> 03:22:19,279
through river bridge. Yeah. Okay. So if

4234
03:22:19,279 --> 03:22:22,239
you happen to go XYZ out here

4235
03:22:22,239 --> 03:22:24,399
commissioner victory.

4236
03:22:24,399 --> 03:22:26,720
Yeah. You there's only you gota like

4237
03:22:26,720 --> 03:22:29,359
every year you get this you fill out the

4238
03:22:29,359 --> 03:22:31,680
thing you know like right now it's good

4239
03:22:31,680 --> 03:22:35,120
year stone is the government. You got to

4240
03:22:35,120 --> 03:22:36,720
use them brands. They're they're the

4241
03:22:36,720 --> 03:22:38,399
ones that got the government discount

4242
03:22:38,399 --> 03:22:42,800
that that to do that. And so you have to

4243
03:22:42,800 --> 03:22:45,840
buy those brands and you have to go

4244
03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:48,239
through this, you know, through like a,

4245
03:22:48,239 --> 03:22:49,600
you know, you got to be used for

4246
03:22:49,600 --> 03:22:56,160
government vehicles and um then you can get that that price and like

4247
03:22:56,160 --> 03:22:58,640
right now the only you know the you got

4248
03:22:58,640 --> 03:23:00,800
to you got to deal with dealers all

4249
03:23:00,800 --> 03:23:03,279
dealers. It's all the same price. dealer

4250
03:23:03,279 --> 03:23:06,239
can change prices, you know, because you

4251
03:23:06,239 --> 03:23:09,680
got the list from the the federal

4252
03:23:09,680 --> 03:23:11,600
government send you the list of what

4253
03:23:11,600 --> 03:23:15,040
they got to charge you for tires.

4254
03:23:15,040 --> 03:23:17,200
So like right now the only the two

4255
03:23:17,200 --> 03:23:19,840
suppliers that I that only selling

4256
03:23:19,840 --> 03:23:22,080
brands is tired and and commercial

4257
03:23:22,080 --> 03:23:26,790
tires. So that's why I get my tires

4258
03:23:26,800 --> 03:23:29,040
at 50%.

4259
03:23:29,040 --> 03:23:30,160
Is that correct?

4260
03:23:30,160 --> 03:23:32,720
>> Yeah. Yeah. And there's they're not, you

4261
03:23:32,720 --> 03:23:34,080
know, a lot of guys I've heard, you

4262
03:23:34,080 --> 03:23:35,600
know, they're going for seconds. They're

4263
03:23:35,600 --> 03:23:38,640
not. It's just they're, you know, they

4264
03:23:38,640 --> 03:23:42,479
they're it's just these these tire

4265
03:23:42,479 --> 03:23:44,000
companies

4266
03:23:44,000 --> 03:23:46,000
been on this

4267
03:23:46,000 --> 03:23:48,479
government discount, you know, they just

4268
03:23:48,479 --> 03:23:51,680
they're working in volume.

4269
03:23:51,680 --> 03:23:54,720
One of the statements made early in

4270
03:23:54,720 --> 03:23:56,239
earlier

4271
03:23:56,239 --> 03:23:59,840
um outside of today's meeting was that

4272
03:23:59,840 --> 03:24:02,640
by doing some of this they understood.

4273
03:24:02,640 --> 03:24:06,080
What's your what's your feeling there?

4274
03:24:06,080 --> 03:24:09,040
>> No, I'm not I mean right now I mean I

4275
03:24:09,040 --> 03:24:11,520
got plenty plenty of mechanics. We can

4276
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:14,720
get them in whenever. Um,

4277
03:24:14,720 --> 03:24:17,200
you know, right now normally, you know,

4278
03:24:17,200 --> 03:24:19,680
they they like Casey said, his guys will

4279
03:24:19,680 --> 03:24:22,239
drop the vehicle off and on their days

4280
03:24:22,239 --> 03:24:25,439
off and we, you know, we we do all the

4281
03:24:25,439 --> 03:24:27,520
oil change and we rotate the tires and

4282
03:24:27,520 --> 03:24:30,000
then and everything and we just, you

4283
03:24:30,000 --> 03:24:31,680
know, then they pick it up on their days

4284
03:24:31,680 --> 03:24:36,479
off. Um like the like Casey is right

4285
03:24:36,479 --> 03:24:40,080
like we have we have your basic which we

4286
03:24:40,080 --> 03:24:48,000
have the same is most everybody in Pine del M you know computer wise to

4287
03:24:48,000 --> 03:24:49,600
plug in and they'll tell you kind of

4288
03:24:49,600 --> 03:24:52,319
what's going on with them. Um if it's

4289
03:24:52,319 --> 03:24:54,319
something major normally I just throw

4290
03:24:54,319 --> 03:24:57,439
them on the transport and I run you know

4291
03:24:57,439 --> 03:24:59,760
the toy dealer and get whatever needs

4292
03:24:59,760 --> 03:25:01,439
done done. That's what I do with my

4293
03:25:01,439 --> 03:25:05,120
trucks and other trucks. But that it

4294
03:25:05,120 --> 03:25:08,000
isn't feasible to try to keep up with

4295
03:25:08,000 --> 03:25:11,120
all the because they just the monthly

4296
03:25:11,120 --> 03:25:13,439
fees on the computer systems and that

4297
03:25:13,439 --> 03:25:15,840
are just unreal. You know, we did a

4298
03:25:15,840 --> 03:25:18,960
little bit. We we when when Casey had a

4299
03:25:18,960 --> 03:25:20,960
bunch of dodges, we did and I had a

4300
03:25:20,960 --> 03:25:23,760
bunch of dodges. We bought the dodge and

4301
03:25:23,760 --> 03:25:26,319
I think we paid back then like 12,000 a

4302
03:25:26,319 --> 03:25:29,279
year. And then every time you it looks

4303
03:25:29,279 --> 03:25:30,640
like every other month you had to

4304
03:25:30,640 --> 03:25:33,600
upgrade it. Upgrade it was 25 here, 2500

4305
03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:35,840
here, 25. So it's just it's more

4306
03:25:35,840 --> 03:25:39,279
feasible to just if you can look and see

4307
03:25:39,279 --> 03:25:43,200
what the problem is and if if it

4308
03:25:43,200 --> 03:25:45,279
most everything's electronics now and

4309
03:25:45,279 --> 03:25:48,000
stuff. So it's just easier just to haul

4310
03:25:48,000 --> 03:25:50,399
it down there and get it fixed and bring

4311
03:25:50,399 --> 03:25:52,319
it back.

4312
03:25:52,319 --> 03:25:53,760
>> Thank you.

4313
03:25:53,760 --> 03:25:55,840
Um, are you comfortable comfortable

4314
03:25:55,840 --> 03:25:57,920
going through this and identifying

4315
03:25:57,920 --> 03:25:59,920
different areas of work and seeing

4316
03:25:59,920 --> 03:26:01,200
mechanical?

4317
03:26:01,200 --> 03:26:03,680
>> Oh, yeah. I I just wanted to kind of let

4318
03:26:03,680 --> 03:26:05,680
you know where I'm at, you know. I mean,

4319
03:26:05,680 --> 03:26:07,359
and I'm like I said, I'm different in a

4320
03:26:07,359 --> 03:26:09,279
lot of departments and everything and I

4321
03:26:09,279 --> 03:26:12,000
seem to deal with this big numbers, you

4322
03:26:12,000 --> 03:26:14,800
know. Um,

4323
03:26:14,800 --> 03:26:19,279
you know, but I do try to I get pricing

4324
03:26:19,279 --> 03:26:20,960
on everything. The thing I do, I get

4325
03:26:20,960 --> 03:26:24,080
pricing. Um, when I buy pickups or

4326
03:26:24,080 --> 03:26:27,279
semiis or whatever or graders, I have my

4327
03:26:27,279 --> 03:26:30,319
spec and I send them out, you know, to

4328
03:26:30,319 --> 03:26:32,479
John Deere. I sent them out to

4329
03:26:32,479 --> 03:26:34,560
everything and and, you know, a lot of

4330
03:26:34,560 --> 03:26:36,000
them don't meet my spec. We have

4331
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:37,359
certain, you know, like on some of the

4332
03:26:37,359 --> 03:26:40,319
snow, you know, I want I want my motor

4333
03:26:40,319 --> 03:26:42,319
graders to be versatile and some of them

4334
03:26:42,319 --> 03:26:45,200
you can't you can't run wings on and

4335
03:26:45,200 --> 03:26:47,040
stuff like that. So, that's how I

4336
03:26:47,040 --> 03:26:49,680
eliminate a lot.

4337
03:26:49,680 --> 03:26:53,040
But I do I do I do try saving the county

4338
03:26:53,040 --> 03:26:56,479
money and I try to do every opportunity

4339
03:26:56,479 --> 03:27:01,439
I can get to bid and do these government

4340
03:27:01,439 --> 03:27:05,200
um programs and that I do I do try doing

4341
03:27:05,200 --> 03:27:07,600
them all but I was just kind of worried

4342
03:27:07,600 --> 03:27:10,399
about the still did

4343
03:27:10,399 --> 03:27:17,920
7 to wait I mean if I can you know I'm I'll work however you guys want me

4344
03:27:17,920 --> 03:27:20,880
to do just if I can contact somebody and

4345
03:27:20,880 --> 03:27:22,880
you know with you guys or something over

4346
03:27:22,880 --> 03:27:26,399
$7,500 so I don't have to wait for get

4347
03:27:26,399 --> 03:27:28,239
stuff ordered or stuff like that you

4348
03:27:28,239 --> 03:27:32,399
know I'm I'm open for your individual

4349
03:27:32,399 --> 03:27:36,880
proposals on a different I can

4350
03:27:36,880 --> 03:27:39,040
do that because I certainly don't know

4351
03:27:39,040 --> 03:27:42,800
what you know Billy I can't presume to

4352
03:27:42,800 --> 03:27:44,880
put myself in the position so your

4353
03:27:44,880 --> 03:27:48,080
guidance okay

4354
03:27:48,080 --> 03:27:52,630
thank you Anyone

4355
03:27:52,640 --> 03:27:59,750
else please?

4356
03:27:59,760 --> 03:28:05,429
I'm sorry.

4357
03:28:05,439 --> 03:28:08,080
» Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, thank you

4358
03:28:08,080 --> 03:28:10,880
for letting speak on behalf of Chief

4359
03:28:10,880 --> 03:28:14,720
Cooper today. He sent you an email. Um,

4360
03:28:14,720 --> 03:28:16,479
I'm here to answer any questions you

4361
03:28:16,479 --> 03:28:19,680
might have on this email, but I do

4362
03:28:19,680 --> 03:28:23,040
encourage you to speak with Chief

4363
03:28:23,040 --> 03:28:26,640
Cooper, Sheriff Leer, Bill,

4364
03:28:26,640 --> 03:28:29,200
um, people that operate specialized

4365
03:28:29,200 --> 03:28:30,720
equipment

4366
03:28:30,720 --> 03:28:34,880
that, um, we can all get together and

4367
03:28:34,880 --> 03:28:37,920
have a working solution

4368
03:28:37,920 --> 03:28:43,520
to a positive procurement policy. Um,

4369
03:28:43,520 --> 03:28:46,319
I know for my years working with Sully,

4370
03:28:46,319 --> 03:28:49,840
um, I [clears throat] can honestly say I

4371
03:28:49,840 --> 03:28:53,359
have watched every penny that has been

4372
03:28:53,359 --> 03:28:55,920
spent through the sheriff's office when

4373
03:28:55,920 --> 03:28:58,960
I work there through fire. I know that

4374
03:28:58,960 --> 03:29:01,439
when Chief Cooper is working on a new

4375
03:29:01,439 --> 03:29:08,399
fire truck, it takes him weeks, to put together a spec sheet. um

4376
03:29:08,399 --> 03:29:12,000
precise. He's very thorough.

4377
03:29:12,000 --> 03:29:15,600
Um it doesn't come lightly to him. He

4378
03:29:15,600 --> 03:29:17,760
watches every penny as well.

4379
03:29:17,760 --> 03:29:20,399
Unfortunately, fire equipment is very

4380
03:29:20,399 --> 03:29:22,880
expensive such as road and bridge

4381
03:29:22,880 --> 03:29:27,600
equipment is very expensive. Um

4382
03:29:27,600 --> 03:29:30,640
if you have any questions,

4383
03:29:30,640 --> 03:29:33,200
I'll take them now. If not, I encourage

4384
03:29:33,200 --> 03:29:36,080
you rather than voting on this today to

4385
03:29:36,080 --> 03:29:38,319
table it and

4386
03:29:38,319 --> 03:29:40,960
work with Sheriff Leer, Chief Cooper,

4387
03:29:40,960 --> 03:29:43,840
and Billy and come up with a working

4388
03:29:43,840 --> 03:29:46,399
solution that works for every department

4389
03:29:46,399 --> 03:29:50,870
in Serge

4390
03:29:50,880 --> 03:29:53,760
has been sent to

4391
03:29:53,760 --> 03:29:57,120
if we were a different mindset, we would

4392
03:29:57,120 --> 03:29:59,600
have stayed clear,

4393
03:29:59,600 --> 03:30:01,840
>> but rather

4394
03:30:01,840 --> 03:30:06,790
your first step

4395
03:30:06,800 --> 03:30:12,630
and asking for assistance to establish

4396
03:30:12,640 --> 03:30:15,120
a body believe that I'm not going to

4397
03:30:15,120 --> 03:30:17,520
correct me wrong.

4398
03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:20,399
We think we can do better and every

4399
03:30:20,399 --> 03:30:24,080
dollar we save is not my dollar. It's

4400
03:30:24,080 --> 03:30:26,560
not your dollar. It's the taxpayers's

4401
03:30:26,560 --> 03:30:27,040
money.

4402
03:30:27,040 --> 03:30:29,920
>> Exactly. And our responsibility as

4403
03:30:29,920 --> 03:30:33,200
elected officials is to try to save as

4404
03:30:33,200 --> 03:30:35,840
much as possible and it's not attacking

4405
03:30:35,840 --> 03:30:37,200
department heads or different

4406
03:30:37,200 --> 03:30:41,439
individuals elected officials.

4407
03:30:41,439 --> 03:30:44,560
This is the nature of what we're doing.

4408
03:30:44,560 --> 03:30:47,040
That that's all it is. So this please

4409
03:30:47,040 --> 03:30:48,560
work with us and come up with something

4410
03:30:48,560 --> 03:30:51,040
that's workable for everyone. And if you

4411
03:30:51,040 --> 03:30:54,160
want to create an adversarial

4412
03:30:54,160 --> 03:30:57,279
occupation with us

4413
03:30:57,279 --> 03:31:00,469
to go

4414
03:31:00,479 --> 03:31:03,120
that's all we're asking please.

4415
03:31:03,120 --> 03:31:05,200
>> Okay. Did you have any questions on this

4416
03:31:05,200 --> 03:31:06,479
email?

4417
03:31:06,479 --> 03:31:08,000
>> I'll chat with Chad here in the next

4418
03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:08,800
week or so.

4419
03:31:08,800 --> 03:31:11,920
>> Perfect. Thank you. Thank you.

4420
03:31:11,920 --> 03:31:17,110
>> Anyone else please?

4421
03:31:17,120 --> 03:31:20,080
» Hopefully all my questions get answered.

4422
03:31:20,080 --> 03:31:23,600
Right. Yeah.

4423
03:31:23,600 --> 03:31:26,720
>> Mr. Chairman, um just what I want to

4424
03:31:26,720 --> 03:31:31,120
touch base on is uh [clears throat]

4425
03:31:31,120 --> 03:31:33,520
definition of emergency kind of just

4426
03:31:33,520 --> 03:31:38,160
because like Blake and uh and with

4427
03:31:38,160 --> 03:31:39,600
maintenance, we're kind of the same, but

4428
03:31:39,600 --> 03:31:41,520
we got really expensive buildings.

4429
03:31:41,520 --> 03:31:44,399
Anything can happen at any time. And I

4430
03:31:44,399 --> 03:31:45,840
just don't want to be scared to pull the

4431
03:31:45,840 --> 03:31:50,319
trigger on some if we're out to do

4432
03:31:50,319 --> 03:31:54,399
for example um three weeks ago we had

4433
03:31:54,399 --> 03:31:57,520
fire alarm system dump fill system full

4434
03:31:57,520 --> 03:32:02,000
of water and that system um actually

4435
03:32:02,000 --> 03:32:04,080
goes outside on the north side of my

4436
03:32:04,080 --> 03:32:06,880
building and being 9° and 2:30 in the

4437
03:32:06,880 --> 03:32:09,359
morning. I have to call fire engineering

4438
03:32:09,359 --> 03:32:11,279
at 2:30 in the morning and get vehicles

4439
03:32:11,279 --> 03:32:13,120
rolling so we can get water out those

4440
03:32:13,120 --> 03:32:16,960
lines before they freeze and break. Um,

4441
03:32:16,960 --> 03:32:20,080
and that's usually over $7,500 when we

4442
03:32:20,080 --> 03:32:24,239
have to do that. Um, fire engineering is

4443
03:32:24,239 --> 03:32:27,120
our company um, countywide that takes

4444
03:32:27,120 --> 03:32:30,720
care of all of our systems. So, I guess

4445
03:32:30,720 --> 03:32:32,479
I don't know what that would look like

4446
03:32:32,479 --> 03:32:35,040
if that fell outside of your definition

4447
03:32:35,040 --> 03:32:37,439
of emergency. we going to start bidding

4448
03:32:37,439 --> 03:32:40,399
some of those services out to do price

4449
03:32:40,399 --> 03:32:43,760
comparison on that or if or if we're

4450
03:32:43,760 --> 03:32:46,560
needing to call for approval because I

4451
03:32:46,560 --> 03:32:48,080
don't think you guys want to hear from

4452
03:32:48,080 --> 03:32:50,960
me at 2:30 on Sunday morning for water

4453
03:32:50,960 --> 03:32:54,640
and fire system. Um so I just I just

4454
03:32:54,640 --> 03:32:57,120
want to make sure that the definition of

4455
03:32:57,120 --> 03:32:59,040
emergency for those kind of things we're

4456
03:32:59,040 --> 03:33:02,239
all on the same page. Um, and then the

4457
03:33:02,239 --> 03:33:04,640
same thing like if one of my wells go

4458
03:33:04,640 --> 03:33:06,319
down or something like that when I have

4459
03:33:06,319 --> 03:33:08,080
people on the fairgrounds. We only have

4460
03:33:08,080 --> 03:33:10,080
a couple different well drillers in the

4461
03:33:10,080 --> 03:33:12,720
county. Um, we have one that takes care

4462
03:33:12,720 --> 03:33:15,920
of this right now. So, I just

4463
03:33:15,920 --> 03:33:18,560
want to make sure that I just don't want

4464
03:33:18,560 --> 03:33:20,319
to make a decision on Saturday and be

4465
03:33:20,319 --> 03:33:26,070
fired on Monday kind of deal.

4466
03:33:26,080 --> 03:33:29,510
» Yes.

4467
03:33:29,520 --> 03:33:31,359
every day. [laughter]

4468
03:33:31,359 --> 03:33:35,279
>> Right. Right. Um I've been here since

4469
03:33:35,279 --> 03:33:38,399
2011, made a lot of decisions um since

4470
03:33:38,399 --> 03:33:41,760
then to um help with some of this and I

4471
03:33:41,760 --> 03:33:43,439
just

4472
03:33:43,439 --> 03:33:46,000
yeah just want to make sure that like

4473
03:33:46,000 --> 03:33:50,080
some of our definitions and I know they got some of the same concerns

4474
03:33:50,080 --> 03:33:52,160
probably uh just because some of the

4475
03:33:52,160 --> 03:33:54,720
equipment in our buildings are so much

4476
03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:57,279
more than that 7500

4477
03:33:57,279 --> 03:34:00,720
um so as always just moving up to you is

4478
03:34:00,720 --> 03:34:03,439
we can that that maybe worked out

4479
03:34:03,439 --> 03:34:06,399
between the two of us.

4480
03:34:06,399 --> 03:34:10,800
>> Sure. And it's pretty much like explain

4481
03:34:10,800 --> 03:34:14,800
to Billy P and sheriff.

4482
03:34:14,800 --> 03:34:17,520
Let's find something

4483
03:34:17,520 --> 03:34:21,920
to kind of come agree on and come and

4484
03:34:21,920 --> 03:34:24,640
start

4485
03:34:24,640 --> 03:34:27,680
moving forward. That's all.

4486
03:34:27,680 --> 03:34:28,560
Thank you.

4487
03:34:28,560 --> 03:34:30,239
>> Well, Blake, he answered all your

4488
03:34:30,239 --> 03:34:31,600
question. We don't need to hear from

4489
03:34:31,600 --> 03:34:32,080
you.

4490
03:34:32,080 --> 03:34:34,479
>> Okay. [laughter]

4491
03:34:34,479 --> 03:34:38,239
Do you have something like

4492
03:34:38,239 --> 03:34:40,880
commissioners? Uh I think they addressed

4493
03:34:40,880 --> 03:34:43,359
most of them. I mean I think mining and

4494
03:34:43,359 --> 03:34:46,399
Andre's biggest question was you know

4495
03:34:46,399 --> 03:34:49,760
going into budget like are we expecting

4496
03:34:49,760 --> 03:34:52,160
to have all of these things done? But it

4497
03:34:52,160 --> 03:34:54,000
sounds like we're going to move the ball

4498
03:34:54,000 --> 03:34:58,160
down the road. Um, which our budget's a

4499
03:34:58,160 --> 03:34:59,920
little bit different than the way Billy

4500
03:34:59,920 --> 03:35:02,239
is cuz, you know, he plans for his

4501
03:35:02,239 --> 03:35:04,640
projects and the engineers help him

4502
03:35:04,640 --> 03:35:06,560
decide what the cost estimate should be

4503
03:35:06,560 --> 03:35:08,800
and then later on when they actually do

4504
03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:11,600
the project, you bid it out where all of

4505
03:35:11,600 --> 03:35:13,279
the things that are usually in our

4506
03:35:13,279 --> 03:35:16,080
budget other than emergencies or that

4507
03:35:16,080 --> 03:35:17,840
are things that we want to replace that

4508
03:35:17,840 --> 03:35:19,840
are broke or that we know has to be

4509
03:35:19,840 --> 03:35:21,600
replaced like the air conditioners,

4510
03:35:21,600 --> 03:35:25,040
things of that sort. We all that's bid

4511
03:35:25,040 --> 03:35:27,120
out and we find the price and that's how

4512
03:35:27,120 --> 03:35:29,439
it gets put in the budget to start with

4513
03:35:29,439 --> 03:35:32,880
and so that's somewhat confusing in that

4514
03:35:32,880 --> 03:35:35,840
of about invoices of if it's already in

4515
03:35:35,840 --> 03:35:37,840
the budget because pretty much

4516
03:35:37,840 --> 03:35:40,640
everything it's a major component in

4517
03:35:40,640 --> 03:35:44,239
budget you have x number of dollars

4518
03:35:44,239 --> 03:35:46,720
you know that we have money set aside

4519
03:35:46,720 --> 03:35:48,640
why would you not call two or three

4520
03:35:48,640 --> 03:35:50,880
other vendors regarding what they're

4521
03:35:50,880 --> 03:35:53,120
pricing yet we've already turned

4522
03:35:53,120 --> 03:35:57,520
inventory, but maybe you can save,000,

4523
03:35:57,520 --> 03:36:01,439
$10,000 by quicker

4524
03:36:01,439 --> 03:36:03,840
shopping at that point. That makes

4525
03:36:03,840 --> 03:36:04,479
sense.

4526
03:36:04,479 --> 03:36:07,680
>> Um, it does, but most of those projects

4527
03:36:07,680 --> 03:36:10,720
we already got a bid from everyone and

4528
03:36:10,720 --> 03:36:12,640
the number that we put in the budget was

4529
03:36:12,640 --> 03:36:14,479
the lowest person

4530
03:36:14,479 --> 03:36:16,160
>> and then a lot of those things are

4531
03:36:16,160 --> 03:36:18,640
>> six months later.

4532
03:36:18,640 --> 03:36:20,720
>> True. But a lot of those things are

4533
03:36:20,720 --> 03:36:23,359
equipment where when the budget is first

4534
03:36:23,359 --> 03:36:25,439
passed, those people get their checks

4535
03:36:25,439 --> 03:36:28,560
and they order equipment and then it

4536
03:36:28,560 --> 03:36:31,840
gets installed later. So, you know, like

4537
03:36:31,840 --> 03:36:33,359
the air conditioner project at the

4538
03:36:33,359 --> 03:36:35,359
courthouse, perfect example, you know,

4539
03:36:35,359 --> 03:36:38,560
July 17th, the budget got passed, will

4540
03:36:38,560 --> 03:36:41,279
orders those. They don't even show up on

4541
03:36:41,279 --> 03:36:44,880
site until the end of December. And then

4542
03:36:44,880 --> 03:36:46,560
hopefully Steve gets some power this

4543
03:36:46,560 --> 03:36:48,239
week and we actually commission next

4544
03:36:48,239 --> 03:36:51,680
week. I mean it is there it is a

4545
03:36:51,680 --> 03:36:53,760
year-long pro I mean the whole entire

4546
03:36:53,760 --> 03:36:56,560
budget cycle just to get that one

4547
03:36:56,560 --> 03:36:59,760
project done. Um and then my other big

4548
03:36:59,760 --> 03:37:02,319
concern is

4549
03:37:02,319 --> 03:37:04,399
it has taken

4550
03:37:04,399 --> 03:37:05,920
and

4551
03:37:05,920 --> 03:37:08,960
Jay can attest to this. It has taken 15

4552
03:37:08,960 --> 03:37:11,520
years since I took over fire suppression

4553
03:37:11,520 --> 03:37:14,399
responsibilities which still not exactly

4554
03:37:14,399 --> 03:37:17,270
sure how I got that job but I got

4555
03:37:17,270 --> 03:37:19,120
[laughter] and I've done really good

4556
03:37:19,120 --> 03:37:20,640
tried really hard to save a lot of

4557
03:37:20,640 --> 03:37:24,479
money. So in 2011 when I took over it

4558
03:37:24,479 --> 03:37:26,399
was every department did their own

4559
03:37:26,399 --> 03:37:29,040
inspections. It was it was a mess. It

4560
03:37:29,040 --> 03:37:31,920
was a it took like two months 70,000

4561
03:37:31,920 --> 03:37:33,760
bucks between everyone. everyone spent

4562
03:37:33,760 --> 03:37:36,479
the $70,000 just to get in inspection

4563
03:37:36,479 --> 03:37:39,120
stuff. Nothing to do with actually

4564
03:37:39,120 --> 03:37:40,960
fixing deficiencies and keeping your

4565
03:37:40,960 --> 03:37:45,760
stuff running. And uh when Andy bestowed

4566
03:37:45,760 --> 03:37:48,960
that project upon me, you know, we bid

4567
03:37:48,960 --> 03:37:54,319
everything and it kind of came down and then I mean literally we

4568
03:37:54,319 --> 03:37:57,040
do time and materials now and last year

4569
03:37:57,040 --> 03:37:59,359
I mean with time and materials I got it

4570
03:37:59,359 --> 03:38:01,359
done for $31,000

4571
03:38:01,359 --> 03:38:06,239
like there's vast amounts of times when

4572
03:38:06,239 --> 03:38:09,840
time and materials is drastically

4573
03:38:09,840 --> 03:38:13,040
cheaper than the bid process. us because

4574
03:38:13,040 --> 03:38:15,120
when you're having people bid stuff,

4575
03:38:15,120 --> 03:38:18,319
they plan for every horrible disaster in

4576
03:38:18,319 --> 03:38:20,880
the world where which I wish there were

4577
03:38:20,880 --> 03:38:22,960
some oil field people here, but where

4578
03:38:22,960 --> 03:38:25,359
even the oil field most bad construction

4579
03:38:25,359 --> 03:38:28,239
and stuff now they do time and material

4580
03:38:28,239 --> 03:38:30,080
cuz they don't want all those people

4581
03:38:30,080 --> 03:38:32,479
putting a new motor grader tire on there

4582
03:38:32,479 --> 03:38:35,520
for the price of 12 grand when the motor

4583
03:38:35,520 --> 03:38:37,200
never broke down the whole time they did

4584
03:38:37,200 --> 03:38:40,560
the job where and maybe that's one of

4585
03:38:40,560 --> 03:38:42,239
those things that you were talking about

4586
03:38:42,239 --> 03:38:43,920
where there's certain things that time

4587
03:38:43,920 --> 03:38:47,200
and material is super super cheaper than

4588
03:38:47,200 --> 03:38:50,479
a big process and then

4589
03:38:50,479 --> 03:38:53,600
I get the pricing services

4590
03:38:53,600 --> 03:38:56,960
but the people at fire engineering know

4591
03:38:56,960 --> 03:38:59,040
not only did they build almost all of

4592
03:38:59,040 --> 03:39:00,880
our fire suppression in our buildings up

4593
03:39:00,880 --> 03:39:04,479
until independent living um

4594
03:39:04,479 --> 03:39:06,720
we have a great business relationship

4595
03:39:06,720 --> 03:39:08,800
with those people I can call one of

4596
03:39:08,800 --> 03:39:10,960
those people at 4:00 in the

4597
03:39:10,960 --> 03:39:14,239
when there is a disaster and they will

4598
03:39:14,239 --> 03:39:16,160
sometimes it takes a second phone call

4599
03:39:16,160 --> 03:39:17,600
but they will get up and answer the

4600
03:39:17,600 --> 03:39:19,600
phone and help me talk through our

4601
03:39:19,600 --> 03:39:22,000
problem so that our property is not

4602
03:39:22,000 --> 03:39:24,239
being more destroyed and get it to a

4603
03:39:24,239 --> 03:39:26,319
point where we don't have to do an

4604
03:39:26,319 --> 03:39:28,399
emergency service call at 2:30 in the

4605
03:39:28,399 --> 03:39:30,239
morning cuz

4606
03:39:30,239 --> 03:39:32,560
that starts at about 5,000 bucks to have

4607
03:39:32,560 --> 03:39:34,080
them roll the truck in the middle of the

4608
03:39:34,080 --> 03:39:36,640
night. um where when if we go to the

4609
03:39:36,640 --> 03:39:38,319
thing where every other every year it's

4610
03:39:38,319 --> 03:39:42,160
changing to someone different, those are

4611
03:39:42,160 --> 03:39:43,920
all those relationships are thrown out

4612
03:39:43,920 --> 03:39:46,640
the window. And uh the other good

4613
03:39:46,640 --> 03:39:48,560
example is was that two years ago when

4614
03:39:48,560 --> 03:39:49,840
you were out in the high school final

4615
03:39:49,840 --> 03:39:51,680
rodeo,

4616
03:39:51,680 --> 03:39:52,640
two [clears throat] days before the

4617
03:39:52,640 --> 03:39:54,239
rodeo,

4618
03:39:54,239 --> 03:39:58,000
Jay won and Jay's pipes break, which

4619
03:39:58,000 --> 03:39:59,520
pretty much have to shut the whole fire

4620
03:39:59,520 --> 03:40:01,760
system down. So nobody can be

4621
03:40:01,760 --> 03:40:04,720
technically in the a center. Kay calls

4622
03:40:04,720 --> 03:40:06,319
me. I get on the phone with fire

4623
03:40:06,319 --> 03:40:07,760
engineering and they're like, "Oh, it'd

4624
03:40:07,760 --> 03:40:09,279
be like Monday before we can build a

4625
03:40:09,279 --> 03:40:11,279
pipe before we can get the pipe built

4626
03:40:11,279 --> 03:40:12,880
and get back up there because the shop's

4627
03:40:12,880 --> 03:40:16,319
really busy." And uh

4628
03:40:16,319 --> 03:40:18,239
so I told the salesman, I was like,

4629
03:40:18,239 --> 03:40:20,239
"Well, I'll call James and I'll see how

4630
03:40:20,239 --> 03:40:23,760
busy the shop really is. I have great

4631
03:40:23,760 --> 03:40:26,319
rapport with the people in the shop." I

4632
03:40:26,319 --> 03:40:28,640
call the shop, tell James where we're at

4633
03:40:28,640 --> 03:40:30,160
and I really need this piece of pipe

4634
03:40:30,160 --> 03:40:33,040
made. James goes, "I'll get it done.

4635
03:40:33,040 --> 03:40:35,520
call the office back, tell them schedule

4636
03:40:35,520 --> 03:40:38,319
the people for tomorrow. James stays

4637
03:40:38,319 --> 03:40:41,279
late, builds a pipe, next day they're

4638
03:40:41,279 --> 03:40:44,399
up, put it in, and the high school rodeo

4639
03:40:44,399 --> 03:40:47,680
goes off without a hitch. Where if we

4640
03:40:47,680 --> 03:40:51,120
get rid of those relationships,

4641
03:40:51,120 --> 03:40:53,840
those kind of things will not happen.

4642
03:40:53,840 --> 03:40:56,080
And

4643
03:40:56,080 --> 03:40:58,080
th those people, we aren't paying extra.

4644
03:40:58,080 --> 03:41:00,479
It just they know that we are always

4645
03:41:00,479 --> 03:41:03,760
doing you know it's just give and take

4646
03:41:03,760 --> 03:41:06,080
where they know they are going to help

4647
03:41:06,080 --> 03:41:10,239
us where most fire companies only do one

4648
03:41:10,239 --> 03:41:13,359
thing like they do inspections but they

4649
03:41:13,359 --> 03:41:16,560
don't do service work and then it is a

4650
03:41:16,560 --> 03:41:19,600
mess because it'll be like 2011 where

4651
03:41:19,600 --> 03:41:21,520
you have the fire marshal standing there

4652
03:41:21,520 --> 03:41:23,120
telling you well I'm going to kick

4653
03:41:23,120 --> 03:41:24,479
everyone out of the courthouse because

4654
03:41:24,479 --> 03:41:26,160
you have deficiencies that aren't being

4655
03:41:26,160 --> 03:41:28,640
addressed and until you get them

4656
03:41:28,640 --> 03:41:30,319
addressed, nobody's going to be in the

4657
03:41:30,319 --> 03:41:33,680
building. And it really hard to get to

4658
03:41:33,680 --> 03:41:35,840
the point we're at where I just don't

4659
03:41:35,840 --> 03:41:38,800
want to go backwards because I've done

4660
03:41:38,800 --> 03:41:41,520
it as cheap as humanly possible. And I

4661
03:41:41,520 --> 03:41:43,520
really to all the department heads here,

4662
03:41:43,520 --> 03:41:45,680
I think we can all attest that they've

4663
03:41:45,680 --> 03:41:48,560
done a better job than anyone else. Like

4664
03:41:48,560 --> 03:41:53,110
they know how our stuff works.

4665
03:41:53,120 --> 03:41:56,479
That's about it.

4666
03:41:56,479 --> 03:41:59,349
>> Thank you.

4667
03:41:59,359 --> 03:42:02,870
for

4668
03:42:02,880 --> 03:42:05,520
the first step in the process.

4669
03:42:05,520 --> 03:42:08,319
Received your concerns and are willing

4670
03:42:08,319 --> 03:42:13,359
to discuss and come to um

4671
03:42:13,359 --> 03:42:16,640
different working options if available

4672
03:42:16,640 --> 03:42:18,560
and hopefully work together on this. But

4673
03:42:18,560 --> 03:42:22,399
the bottom line again is to address

4674
03:42:22,399 --> 03:42:26,160
the expenditure of the taxpayer dollar

4675
03:42:26,160 --> 03:42:28,399
and is not directed towards any

4676
03:42:28,399 --> 03:42:31,040
individual or any specific department of

4677
03:42:31,040 --> 03:42:34,000
the head or elected official.

4678
03:42:34,000 --> 03:42:47,429
It's hard to do anything

4679
03:42:47,439 --> 03:42:52,229
up next.

4680
03:42:52,239 --> 03:42:53,920
So just Mr.

4681
03:42:53,920 --> 03:42:55,520
funding

4682
03:42:55,520 --> 03:42:58,319
this certain modification in need. Do

4683
03:42:58,319 --> 03:43:00,239
you want to make any changes to the

4684
03:43:00,239 --> 03:43:01,760
recover policy at this point or is that

4685
03:43:01,760 --> 03:43:02,560
something you guys are going to think

4686
03:43:02,560 --> 03:43:05,120
about another day?

4687
03:43:05,120 --> 03:43:09,040
>> Well, I thought perhaps I wasn't clear,

4688
03:43:09,040 --> 03:43:10,800
but I requested the different department

4689
03:43:10,800 --> 03:43:12,880
heads to sit down and take a look at

4690
03:43:12,880 --> 03:43:15,279
what's printed here and see if there's

4691
03:43:15,279 --> 03:43:18,399
some viable options that they're capable

4692
03:43:18,399 --> 03:43:20,000
of working with. and that we can sit

4693
03:43:20,000 --> 03:43:21,840
down again and address them and

4694
03:43:21,840 --> 03:43:24,800
commissioners can

4695
03:43:24,800 --> 03:43:27,359
use that as a working model to see what

4696
03:43:27,359 --> 03:43:29,520
we can adopt and move forward.

4697
03:43:29,520 --> 03:43:30,800
>> Okay. So that'll be a different

4698
03:43:30,800 --> 03:43:32,080
discussion than today.

4699
03:43:32,080 --> 03:43:32,479
>> Correct.

4700
03:43:32,479 --> 03:43:33,760
>> Okay. Just thank you for that

4701
03:43:33,760 --> 03:43:34,479
clarification.

4702
03:43:34,479 --> 03:43:36,239
>> Okay. Welcome. Thank you. And is that

4703
03:43:36,239 --> 03:43:38,399
something that

4704
03:43:38,399 --> 03:43:40,000
the department has comfortable with two

4705
03:43:40,000 --> 03:43:46,389
weeks or do you need a month?

4706
03:43:46,399 --> 03:43:49,199
» Two weeks for two weeks.

4707
03:43:49,199 --> 03:43:55,110
And we're now

4708
03:43:55,120 --> 03:43:58,640
shar two weeks, four weeks, two weeks.

4709
03:43:58,640 --> 03:44:00,960
Thank you.

4710
03:44:00,960 --> 03:44:05,520
Again, next meeting.

4711
03:44:05,520 --> 03:44:09,510
Thank you.

4712
03:44:09,520 --> 03:44:13,910
Yes.

4713
03:44:13,920 --> 03:44:19,030
Um

4714
03:44:19,040 --> 03:44:22,160
up next is Malinkovich

4715
03:44:22,160 --> 03:44:23,680
for county commissioners bylaw

4716
03:44:23,680 --> 03:44:25,040
resolution.

4717
03:44:25,040 --> 03:44:28,319
>> I just have the resolution here to sign.

4718
03:44:28,319 --> 03:44:30,880
>> Anything else in addition to that?

4719
03:44:30,880 --> 03:44:31,840
>> That's all I got.

4720
03:44:31,840 --> 03:44:34,720
>> Yeah, I have an executive

4721
03:44:34,720 --> 03:44:42,550
session requested.

4722
03:44:42,560 --> 03:44:57,030
165.

4723
03:44:57,040 --> 03:44:58,239
» So, are you guys going to sign that

4724
03:44:58,239 --> 03:45:00,160
resolution before you executive session

4725
03:45:00,160 --> 03:45:02,479
or you do that after

4726
03:45:02,479 --> 03:45:04,640
this?

4727
03:45:04,640 --> 03:45:06,640
>> To approve the bylaws. Now you just get

4728
03:45:06,640 --> 03:45:08,319
a vote to approve the resolution and

4729
03:45:08,319 --> 03:45:10,399
then sign the resolution and that

4730
03:45:10,399 --> 03:45:15,199
resolution gets recorded uh in the

4731
03:45:15,199 --> 03:45:17,040
it gets recorded as part of the county

4732
03:45:17,040 --> 03:45:21,349
record as a resolution.

4733
03:45:21,359 --> 03:45:23,279
Is there a resolution number or is that

4734
03:45:23,279 --> 03:45:34,389
>> Yes, it's in the top.

4735
03:45:34,399 --> 03:45:39,189
Motion to approve resolution 25-1000519B

4736
03:45:39,199 --> 03:45:41,279
adoption of board of county commissioner

4737
03:45:41,279 --> 03:45:43,279
meeting votes.

4738
03:45:43,279 --> 03:45:44,960
>> Second

4739
03:45:44,960 --> 03:45:47,840
special action of county commission

4740
03:45:47,840 --> 03:45:49,520
meeting.

4741
03:45:49,520 --> 03:45:52,239
Is there any discussion?

4742
03:45:52,239 --> 03:45:54,560
All in favor?

4743
03:45:54,560 --> 03:45:59,830
Any opposed? I [clears throat]

4744
03:45:59,840 --> 03:46:04,870
in favor one opposed.

4745
03:46:04,880 --> 03:46:15,030
Four in favor, one oppos.

4746
03:46:15,040 --> 03:46:16,319
» Your new rules say you do.

4747
03:46:16,319 --> 03:46:20,000
>> I think that's what I'm saying.

4748
03:46:20,000 --> 03:46:22,239
It hasn't passed yet. So, I'm not saying

4749
03:46:22,239 --> 03:46:24,399
it has passed.

4750
03:46:24,399 --> 03:47:13,910
I tell you what, trouble's coming.

4751
03:47:13,920 --> 03:47:15,520
made a motion to go into executive

4752
03:47:15,520 --> 03:47:17,439
session 26

4753
03:47:17,439 --> 03:47:24,309
45

4754
03:47:24,319 --> 03:47:26,080
second

4755
03:47:26,080 --> 03:47:27,680
or nine. Did you say Roman at three or

4756
03:47:27,680 --> 03:47:30,479
did you say Robin at nine?

4757
03:47:30,479 --> 03:47:33,520
>> Three. You should say nine. Okay,

4758
03:47:33,520 --> 03:47:42,229
correction

4759
03:47:42,239 --> 03:47:52,870
» otherwise conf

4760
03:47:52,880 --> 03:47:53,359
» Okay.

4761
03:47:53,359 --> 03:47:55,359
>> Less less than 10 minutes.

4762
03:47:55,359 --> 03:47:55,680
>> Okay.

4763
03:47:55,680 --> 03:48:00,080
>> Probably less than five. Okay.

4764
03:48:00,080 --> 03:48:27,830
A few minutes, please.

4765
03:48:27,840 --> 03:48:31,269
up next.

4766
03:48:31,279 --> 03:48:33,439
Uh

4767
03:48:33,439 --> 03:48:47,590
please

4768
03:48:47,600 --> 03:48:49,199
» Oh, yeah.

4769
03:48:49,199 --> 03:48:54,389
to the chair if he called me. So,

4770
03:48:54,399 --> 03:48:55,840
we just stepped outside. Do you want me

4771
03:48:55,840 --> 03:48:57,359
to go get them? Is that who you're

4772
03:48:57,359 --> 03:48:59,040
speaking about?

4773
03:48:59,040 --> 03:49:02,399
>> I think Amaya or they question.

4774
03:49:02,399 --> 03:49:03,840
>> Well, you've also got public health. So,

4775
03:49:03,840 --> 03:49:05,600
if you wanted to because I think Jan I

4776
03:49:05,600 --> 03:49:07,040
think Jan is trying to get back to the

4777
03:49:07,040 --> 03:49:08,000
clinic.

4778
03:49:08,000 --> 03:49:13,183
>> She should.

4779
03:49:13,193 --> 03:49:15,670
[laughter]

4780
03:49:15,680 --> 03:49:17,680
» Sorry. from the gallery visiting the

4781
03:49:17,680 --> 03:49:20,960
rules. I apologize there

4782
03:49:20,960 --> 03:49:23,673
following the agenda.

4783
03:49:23,673 --> 03:49:25,520
[laughter]

4784
03:49:25,520 --> 03:49:35,830
>> Thank you.

4785
03:49:35,840 --> 03:49:40,479
» I thank you for letting us come. I have

4786
03:49:40,479 --> 03:49:42,560
a few updates that I wanted to go

4787
03:49:42,560 --> 03:49:46,560
through with you. I wanted to um

4788
03:49:46,560 --> 03:49:49,600
let some of my staff do the bulk of it.

4789
03:49:49,600 --> 03:49:52,640
So, you want to start? Sure. Okay. We'll

4790
03:49:52,640 --> 03:49:55,439
start with gambling.

4791
03:49:55,439 --> 03:49:58,000
Yeah. I'm Becky Crow. I work in suicide

4792
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:01,520
and substance abuse prevention. I also

4793
03:50:01,520 --> 03:50:04,720
work where we get uh gambling funds. Um

4794
03:50:04,720 --> 03:50:06,880
the county does and that's what we're

4795
03:50:06,880 --> 03:50:08,479
bringing to you today that hopefully

4796
03:50:08,479 --> 03:50:11,279
you'll approve to receive these funds

4797
03:50:11,279 --> 03:50:13,840
into the county. Um, and thankfully

4798
03:50:13,840 --> 03:50:16,800
that's mostly when you see me it's about

4799
03:50:16,800 --> 03:50:18,960
approving funds that are convenient. And

4800
03:50:18,960 --> 03:50:22,319
so thank you for support of prevention

4801
03:50:22,319 --> 03:50:24,479
with this problem gambling. I did want

4802
03:50:24,479 --> 03:50:27,600
to give you a little information about

4803
03:50:27,600 --> 03:50:29,840
problem gambling in Wyoming and it's

4804
03:50:29,840 --> 03:50:32,479
increasing as the gaming industry

4805
03:50:32,479 --> 03:50:35,439
expands more and more into Wyoming. And

4806
03:50:35,439 --> 03:50:37,439
of course, they have to pay funds to

4807
03:50:37,439 --> 03:50:40,239
each county to try to offset the

4808
03:50:40,239 --> 03:50:42,560
consequences of problem handling. So,

4809
03:50:42,560 --> 03:50:45,359
here's a little information on that. Um,

4810
03:50:45,359 --> 03:50:48,720
our youth are at higher risk and I guess

4811
03:50:48,720 --> 03:50:51,199
that's hopefully a live and learn

4812
03:50:51,199 --> 03:50:53,199
moments for our youth, but also it can

4813
03:50:53,199 --> 03:50:56,000
turn into long-term problems. But it's

4814
03:50:56,000 --> 03:51:00,000
about almost to it's 29% for young men

4815
03:51:00,000 --> 03:51:03,359
and 26 per percent for young women 18 to

4816
03:51:03,359 --> 03:51:06,080
29 have reported in Wyoming reported two

4817
03:51:06,080 --> 03:51:09,520
or more gambling related problems. Um

4818
03:51:09,520 --> 03:51:11,920
problem gamblers do think have a higher

4819
03:51:11,920 --> 03:51:14,000
risk of suicidality

4820
03:51:14,000 --> 03:51:16,960
and individuals with a gambling disorder

4821
03:51:16,960 --> 03:51:20,080
face 15 times higher suicide mortality

4822
03:51:20,080 --> 03:51:22,800
than the general population. Um, but

4823
03:51:22,800 --> 03:51:24,880
problem gambling is preventable and

4824
03:51:24,880 --> 03:51:26,720
treatable and that's what we use these

4825
03:51:26,720 --> 03:51:29,600
funds for. In the past, I've used them

4826
03:51:29,600 --> 03:51:34,160
to uh create our prevention website, but

4827
03:51:34,160 --> 03:51:37,680
also to add um gambl problem gambling

4828
03:51:37,680 --> 03:51:39,439
information on there, resources

4829
03:51:39,439 --> 03:51:43,040
available to folks. Also, I put out uh

4830
03:51:43,040 --> 03:51:45,840
weekly almost social media information,

4831
03:51:45,840 --> 03:51:48,319
not always about problem gambling, but

4832
03:51:48,319 --> 03:51:50,560
all things prevention that goes out into

4833
03:51:50,560 --> 03:51:52,399
the community.

4834
03:51:52,399 --> 03:51:55,359
The funds have been used to train people

4835
03:51:55,359 --> 03:51:57,920
um in trauma-informed coaching that

4836
03:51:57,920 --> 03:52:01,199
includes financial responsibility and uh

4837
03:52:01,199 --> 03:52:02,880
so that's an impact. Hopefully, the

4838
03:52:02,880 --> 03:52:06,239
coaching impacts uh problem gambling as

4839
03:52:06,239 --> 03:52:09,120
well. And then just a few weeks ago, we

4840
03:52:09,120 --> 03:52:11,600
trained all middle school students a big

4841
03:52:11,600 --> 03:52:14,479
penny and financial mismanagement. That

4842
03:52:14,479 --> 03:52:17,120
includes uh problem gambling and we tied

4843
03:52:17,120 --> 03:52:19,359
it into suicide prevention as well. But

4844
03:52:19,359 --> 03:52:21,359
that's where these funds have been

4845
03:52:21,359 --> 03:52:24,960
spent. So um just encourage you to

4846
03:52:24,960 --> 03:52:27,920
continue to let us uh procure these

4847
03:52:27,920 --> 03:52:32,319
funds and use them in the calendar.

4848
03:52:32,319 --> 03:52:35,600
So when you say we talk, are you talking

4849
03:52:35,600 --> 03:52:37,520
about yourself or?

4850
03:52:37,520 --> 03:52:39,439
>> Yes. And I also for the middle school

4851
03:52:39,439 --> 03:52:41,920
students, I brought in someone from the

4852
03:52:41,920 --> 03:52:43,920
uh Prosper team we've been working with

4853
03:52:43,920 --> 03:52:46,479
for the past two years. We have them for

4854
03:52:46,479 --> 03:52:47,680
another year. They're through the

4855
03:52:47,680 --> 03:52:50,655
governor's initiative. Uh this

4856
03:52:50,655 --> 03:52:53,279
[clears throat] team is one of like a

4857
03:52:53,279 --> 03:52:55,120
hundred in the whole world that study

4858
03:52:55,120 --> 03:52:57,120
suicide and we've been fortunate to have

4859
03:52:57,120 --> 03:52:59,520
them in Sublet County for the past two

4860
03:52:59,520 --> 03:53:01,520
years. have been able to offer a lot of

4861
03:53:01,520 --> 03:53:03,520
trainings. This is one that we work

4862
03:53:03,520 --> 03:53:05,359
together on to tailor to our middle

4863
03:53:05,359 --> 03:53:08,479
school students because um we think it

4864
03:53:08,479 --> 03:53:10,319
is in our young people. That's where

4865
03:53:10,319 --> 03:53:17,199
we're hoping to see some changes um in a lot of things problem areas we have

4866
03:53:17,199 --> 03:53:20,800
in the county. But that's uh um yes, it

4867
03:53:20,800 --> 03:53:22,560
was a part of that along with praying

4868
03:53:22,560 --> 03:53:24,399
and the prosper.

4869
03:53:24,399 --> 03:53:25,199
>> Thank you.

4870
03:53:25,199 --> 03:53:27,520
>> You're welcome. You're welcome. And that

4871
03:53:27,520 --> 03:53:30,080
training was well received. Those kids

4872
03:53:30,080 --> 03:53:32,960
when these kids have been through a lot

4873
03:53:32,960 --> 03:53:36,080
and they like to have the opportunity to

4874
03:53:36,080 --> 03:53:39,120
share their experiences, but sixth,

4875
03:53:39,120 --> 03:53:40,880
seventh, and eighth grade and every hand

4876
03:53:40,880 --> 03:53:42,720
is raised that they've lost somebody to

4877
03:53:42,720 --> 03:53:48,479
suicide in big piny schools and that's

4878
03:53:48,479 --> 03:53:50,479
that just makes that's just shocking to

4879
03:53:50,479 --> 03:53:53,359
me that that our what our young people

4880
03:53:53,359 --> 03:53:55,359
are going through and we hope to bring

4881
03:53:55,359 --> 03:53:57,520
more things into the county as we can

4882
03:53:57,520 --> 03:53:59,439
because I can find more grant funs to

4883
03:53:59,439 --> 03:54:04,160
bring in the health votes as well. Um,

4884
03:54:04,160 --> 03:54:06,080
one other thing I'll mention briefly is

4885
03:54:06,080 --> 03:54:08,720
there was a survey I think sent to you

4886
03:54:08,720 --> 03:54:12,640
from the um the director of the Wyoming

4887
03:54:12,640 --> 03:54:14,880
County Commissioners Association. A

4888
03:54:14,880 --> 03:54:17,359
survey went out from Wyoming Department

4889
03:54:17,359 --> 03:54:20,000
of Health about as long as some

4890
03:54:20,000 --> 03:54:22,399
reporting on prevention in general at a

4891
03:54:22,399 --> 03:54:26,399
state level. Um, I do have have it in

4892
03:54:26,399 --> 03:54:27,840
print, but you should have gotten an

4893
03:54:27,840 --> 03:54:30,479
email And I'd love for you to look at

4894
03:54:30,479 --> 03:54:32,800
those reports. I do get you a county

4895
03:54:32,800 --> 03:54:36,080
report on a yearly basis on what the

4896
03:54:36,080 --> 03:54:37,840
work we've been doing on prevention. But

4897
03:54:37,840 --> 03:54:40,560
if this also has a survey that you can

4898
03:54:40,560 --> 03:54:47,750
complete to see what you would like to

4899
03:54:47,760 --> 03:54:49,840
if you would take the time to that would

4900
03:54:49,840 --> 03:54:52,640
help us and how to at the state level it

4901
03:54:52,640 --> 03:54:54,800
would help them to create those uh

4902
03:54:54,800 --> 03:54:57,600
reports you would like to see.

4903
03:54:57,600 --> 03:54:58,239
Thank you.

4904
03:54:58,239 --> 03:55:02,630
>> Thank you.

4905
03:55:02,640 --> 03:55:04,720
» So, I have a letter of support. If

4906
03:55:04,720 --> 03:55:07,120
you're willing to sign that, we would

4907
03:55:07,120 --> 03:55:12,870
receive an additional $5,79520

4908
03:55:12,880 --> 03:55:22,309
next year under the gambling fund.

4909
03:55:22,319 --> 03:55:27,192
And I move to approve

4910
03:55:27,202 --> 03:55:30,640
[clears throat] the extra money.

4911
03:55:30,640 --> 03:55:36,550
Second motion and second release 5,000

4912
03:55:36,560 --> 03:55:38,080
$795.20

4913
03:55:38,080 --> 03:55:40,800
from the gambling fund.

4914
03:55:40,800 --> 03:55:43,920
Motion second. Any discussion?

4915
03:55:43,920 --> 03:55:45,840
All in favor?

4916
03:55:45,840 --> 03:55:52,229
Any oppose?

4917
03:55:52,239 --> 03:55:55,520
I have a question.

4918
03:55:55,520 --> 03:55:59,750
>> Commissioner

4919
03:55:59,760 --> 03:56:02,160
open it up for discussion.

4920
03:56:02,160 --> 03:56:10,070
>> Question now that we've approved it.

4921
03:56:10,080 --> 03:56:16,870
» It's okay. Go ahead. [laughter]

4922
03:56:16,880 --> 03:56:18,960
No,

4923
03:56:18,960 --> 03:56:26,640
it shows my inability I guess to pronounce a word

4924
03:56:26,640 --> 03:56:29,840
and so what is that word just I look at

4925
03:56:29,840 --> 03:56:32,319
it and say suicidality or something like

4926
03:56:32,319 --> 03:56:34,880
that what does that actually mean

4927
03:56:34,880 --> 03:56:38,720
>> higher risk of by suicide

4928
03:56:38,720 --> 03:56:43,590
>> why is it just suicide

4929
03:56:43,600 --> 03:56:47,120
okay That's all if you got

4930
03:56:47,120 --> 03:56:48,000
>> the other thing

4931
03:56:48,000 --> 03:56:48,880
>> I don't have one

4932
03:56:48,880 --> 03:56:53,030
>> commenting

4933
03:56:53,040 --> 03:56:56,710
the legislature

4934
03:56:56,720 --> 03:56:58,800
which eliminates

4935
03:56:58,800 --> 03:57:05,429
for gambling

4936
03:57:05,439 --> 03:57:09,670
the legislature

4937
03:57:09,680 --> 03:57:11,920
I think all of that

4938
03:57:11,920 --> 03:57:14,239
>> well I know I

4939
03:57:14,239 --> 03:57:18,554
bit of it like most of the bars and

4940
03:57:18,554 --> 03:57:20,000
[clears throat] I'm speaking of suffix

4941
03:57:20,000 --> 03:57:22,720
county have a what they call queen of

4942
03:57:22,720 --> 03:57:26,160
hearts I think what it is or susp

4943
03:57:26,160 --> 03:57:29,199
whatever and so you buy a chance and

4944
03:57:29,199 --> 03:57:31,920
they got all the cards up on most folks

4945
03:57:31,920 --> 03:57:34,640
are committing it seems you got all the

4946
03:57:34,640 --> 03:57:36,960
cards on the floor he's not familiar

4947
03:57:36,960 --> 03:57:39,514
with

4948
03:57:39,514 --> 03:57:41,120
[laughter]

4949
03:57:41,120 --> 03:57:45,199
>> so the deal is you play.

4950
03:57:45,199 --> 03:57:48,560
So the deal is they've got this

4951
03:57:48,560 --> 03:57:51,680
deck of cards and you buy a chance to

4952
03:57:51,680 --> 03:57:53,520
pull one and if it's a queen of hearts

4953
03:57:53,520 --> 03:57:58,000
and a whatever that is,

4954
03:57:58,000 --> 03:58:00,160
turn that card over and if you happen to

4955
03:58:00,160 --> 03:58:05,680
want it the right one, you win whatever.

4956
03:58:05,680 --> 03:58:14,399
But some of these stations go on and go on and they determine that

4957
03:58:14,399 --> 03:58:16,640
the gaming commission doesn't seem to be

4958
03:58:16,640 --> 03:58:19,199
getting anything out of it because the

4959
03:58:19,199 --> 03:58:20,960
bars are keeping the profits that are

4960
03:58:20,960 --> 03:58:23,760
derived from it. So therefore, let's

4961
03:58:23,760 --> 03:58:25,760
just eliminate it. And so that's what

4962
03:58:25,760 --> 03:58:31,269
they found. And I don't part that reach.

4963
03:58:31,279 --> 03:58:33,840
I'm sure there's other things out there.

4964
03:58:33,840 --> 03:58:35,920
No, I think the sports betting and all

4965
03:58:35,920 --> 03:58:39,439
the online stuff is probably exploding

4966
03:58:39,439 --> 03:58:43,120
right now as far as

4967
03:58:43,120 --> 03:58:44,880
>> Yeah, I'll just speak to that a minute.

4968
03:58:44,880 --> 03:58:47,680
I'm not sure how they can enforce that

4969
03:58:47,680 --> 03:58:52,720
change, but it is um it it is an online

4970
03:58:52,720 --> 03:58:56,239
gambling is expand it is rapidly uh

4971
03:58:56,239 --> 03:58:57,920
becoming addictive to many of our

4972
03:58:57,920 --> 03:59:00,479
seniors. You know, you can do it on your

4973
03:59:00,479 --> 03:59:03,199
phone and you see ads all the time. if

4974
03:59:03,199 --> 03:59:04,960
you're short on money, just download

4975
03:59:04,960 --> 03:59:07,520
this app and and you'll win all this

4976
03:59:07,520 --> 03:59:10,080
money, which we all know it's not how it

4977
03:59:10,080 --> 03:59:14,000
works. But it it's highly trying to they

4978
03:59:14,000 --> 03:59:16,160
really do a lot of marketing to try to

4979
03:59:16,160 --> 03:59:18,720
draw people in at that level. But where

4980
03:59:18,720 --> 03:59:20,880
we've seen problems in life is people

4981
03:59:20,880 --> 03:59:23,199
like losing their life savings. Like

4982
03:59:23,199 --> 03:59:24,880
they just keep betting and betting and

4983
03:59:24,880 --> 03:59:27,199
betting till everything's gone. And then

4984
03:59:27,199 --> 03:59:29,040
that's where it becomes a community

4985
03:59:29,040 --> 03:59:31,359
problem because you have people who who

4986
03:59:31,359 --> 03:59:34,560
are without resources.

4987
03:59:34,560 --> 03:59:37,359
That's that. And then as Jan mentioned,

4988
03:59:37,359 --> 03:59:39,680
the the sports gambling that happens

4989
03:59:39,680 --> 03:59:42,560
real time during games and things that

4990
03:59:42,560 --> 03:59:45,040
um people can bet on and it's easy to

4991
03:59:45,040 --> 03:59:47,600
get caught up in spend more than you had

4992
03:59:47,600 --> 03:59:55,510
to lose.

4993
03:59:55,520 --> 03:59:57,520
Thank you. Okay. Then I want to

4994
03:59:57,520 --> 03:59:59,520
introduce our new public health response

4995
03:59:59,520 --> 04:00:03,920
coordinator, Nadia Gen.

4996
04:00:03,920 --> 04:00:06,479
Started with us full time at the end of

4997
04:00:06,479 --> 04:00:08,399
last month and she's going to give you a

4998
04:00:08,399 --> 04:00:11,680
little update on our AED project.

4999
04:00:11,680 --> 04:00:13,520
>> Hello, it's nice to meet you guys. I'm

5000
04:00:13,520 --> 04:00:15,840
Nadia Gibin. um used to work patrol for

5001
04:00:15,840 --> 04:00:18,000
the sheriff's office. So I understand

5002
04:00:18,000 --> 04:00:20,319
the oil change issue.

5003
04:00:20,319 --> 04:00:23,600
Um Janet had done this great started

5004
04:00:23,600 --> 04:00:26,080
this great project with a first aid kits

5005
04:00:26,080 --> 04:00:29,520
that I try to help uh take over as well.

5006
04:00:29,520 --> 04:00:32,160
um thank you for the support from the

5007
04:00:32,160 --> 04:00:34,080
county commissioners to supply the AEDs

5008
04:00:34,080 --> 04:00:36,479
and first aid kits and we were able to

5009
04:00:36,479 --> 04:00:38,160
put them in 12 different county uh

5010
04:00:38,160 --> 04:00:41,120
buildings. And then um we also partnered

5011
04:00:41,120 --> 04:00:44,640
with emergency medical director DJ Mary

5012
04:00:44,640 --> 04:00:47,760
um and he provided a training for 30

5013
04:00:47,760 --> 04:00:50,239
employees on first state and life saving

5014
04:00:50,239 --> 04:00:52,800
basics and they're the employees that

5015
04:00:52,800 --> 04:00:55,680
are going to be uh point of contact or

5016
04:00:55,680 --> 04:00:57,199
in their and locally located in these

5017
04:00:57,199 --> 04:00:58,560
different buildings as well. so they'll

5018
04:00:58,560 --> 04:01:01,120
understand how to use the equipment. And

5019
04:01:01,120 --> 04:01:03,840
then um since they are accessible to the

5020
04:01:03,840 --> 04:01:05,920
public, I also wrote an form of

5021
04:01:05,920 --> 04:01:08,319
informative article for the Pineell

5022
04:01:08,319 --> 04:01:10,640
Roundup which will be posted in there um

5023
04:01:10,640 --> 04:01:13,199
their next article for their next

5024
04:01:13,199 --> 04:01:15,359
edition and I also sent it to the

5025
04:01:15,359 --> 04:01:17,680
Western Region Healthcare Coalition

5026
04:01:17,680 --> 04:01:19,840
which encompasses Sweetwater Sublet and

5027
04:01:19,840 --> 04:01:22,399
Teton County and just let them know the

5028
04:01:22,399 --> 04:01:24,560
project that we have been doing here in

5029
04:01:24,560 --> 04:01:27,279
our county. Um, and so in the

5030
04:01:27,279 --> 04:01:28,800
informative article I wrote for the Pine

5031
04:01:28,800 --> 04:01:30,560
Doll Roundup, I just addressed some

5032
04:01:30,560 --> 04:01:33,040
concerns that people um may have when it

5033
04:01:33,040 --> 04:01:34,880
comes to AEDs.

5034
04:01:34,880 --> 04:01:37,040
Um, so BJ Mary brought up a great point

5035
04:01:37,040 --> 04:01:38,319
like one of the biggest things is people

5036
04:01:38,319 --> 04:01:40,080
are concerned if they use an AED it may

5037
04:01:40,080 --> 04:01:41,760
harm somebody. So they don't even want

5038
04:01:41,760 --> 04:01:45,040
to use it um themselves. And I wrote in

5039
04:01:45,040 --> 04:01:46,960
the article, ADS, they are regulated by

5040
04:01:46,960 --> 04:01:51,040
the FDA. um those few minutes before

5041
04:01:51,040 --> 04:01:54,239
emergency help arrives, an AD can save a

5042
04:01:54,239 --> 04:01:56,399
life during those few minutes. Um when

5043
04:01:56,399 --> 04:01:58,800
you turn on an A, it'll clear clearly

5044
04:01:58,800 --> 04:02:00,800
tell you what to do once it turns on.

5045
04:02:00,800 --> 04:02:02,640
And then dispatch, they're also trained

5046
04:02:02,640 --> 04:02:05,520
to help cover um over the phone how to

5047
04:02:05,520 --> 04:02:08,800
do CPR, guiding the use of an AE,

5048
04:02:08,800 --> 04:02:11,520
administering NR can for opioid use or

5049
04:02:11,520 --> 04:02:13,840
other life- saving measures. And I did

5050
04:02:13,840 --> 04:02:15,439
double check with dispatch too that they

5051
04:02:15,439 --> 04:02:17,199
aren't able to do all of that over the

5052
04:02:17,199 --> 04:02:20,479
phone as well. And then um another

5053
04:02:20,479 --> 04:02:22,560
concern people have is if they interfere

5054
04:02:22,560 --> 04:02:24,880
that mean there's any a potential chance

5055
04:02:24,880 --> 04:02:26,720
for a lawsuit. So I also wrote in there

5056
04:02:26,720 --> 04:02:29,279
that Wyoming has a good Samaritan law. I

5057
04:02:29,279 --> 04:02:31,279
also had sent this and just made sure to

5058
04:02:31,279 --> 04:02:34,239
clarify with Clayton as well that um the

5059
04:02:34,239 --> 04:02:37,199
article was okay and I just quoted the

5060
04:02:37,199 --> 04:02:39,279
um statute book directly what the goods

5061
04:02:39,279 --> 04:02:41,840
maritime law states which is persons

5062
04:02:41,840 --> 04:02:44,000
rendering emergency assistance exempt

5063
04:02:44,000 --> 04:02:46,479
from civil liability any person licensed

5064
04:02:46,479 --> 04:02:48,319
as a physician and surgeon under law

5065
04:02:48,319 --> 04:02:50,800
with the state of Wyoming or any other

5066
04:02:50,800 --> 04:02:52,720
person who in good faith renders

5067
04:02:52,720 --> 04:02:55,199
emergency care or assistance without

5068
04:02:55,199 --> 04:02:56,640
compensation at the place of an

5069
04:02:56,640 --> 04:02:59,359
emergency or accident is not liable.

5070
04:02:59,359 --> 04:03:02,080
for any civil damages for acts or

5071
04:03:02,080 --> 04:03:04,000
emissions in good faith. So hopefully

5072
04:03:04,000 --> 04:03:06,720
that will address any fears people have

5073
04:03:06,720 --> 04:03:09,199
with potentially using the AED or

5074
04:03:09,199 --> 04:03:12,239
equipment as well. And then um the

5075
04:03:12,239 --> 04:03:13,600
public health department we're also

5076
04:03:13,600 --> 04:03:15,520
maintaining the equipment by replacing

5077
04:03:15,520 --> 04:03:18,560
expired VAS um pads and batteries. And

5078
04:03:18,560 --> 04:03:21,600
then um there's a point of contact for

5079
04:03:21,600 --> 04:03:24,399
each um AED and first aid cabinet. And

5080
04:03:24,399 --> 04:03:25,840
they're supposed to do monthly checks on

5081
04:03:25,840 --> 04:03:28,319
the AEDs as well. And then we check back

5082
04:03:28,319 --> 04:03:29,600
to make sure that those are getting

5083
04:03:29,600 --> 04:03:31,920
done. And then in November, a technician

5084
04:03:31,920 --> 04:03:34,479
will come out to test the AEDs to make

5085
04:03:34,479 --> 04:03:36,720
sure that they are working properly as

5086
04:03:36,720 --> 04:03:40,080
well. Um, and then what is inside the

5087
04:03:40,080 --> 04:03:43,439
AEDs and first aid kits is um Jenna was

5088
04:03:43,439 --> 04:03:45,439
smart. She um decided to use the same

5089
04:03:45,439 --> 04:03:48,560
AEDs as what our emergency services use.

5090
04:03:48,560 --> 04:03:51,040
So hopefully when they come, they won't

5091
04:03:51,040 --> 04:03:52,399
switch them out. They can still use the

5092
04:03:52,399 --> 04:03:54,880
exact same machine. BJ let us know that

5093
04:03:54,880 --> 04:03:58,000
they probably will just out of uh habit.

5094
04:03:58,000 --> 04:03:59,279
They'll probably place their own ones

5095
04:03:59,279 --> 04:04:01,840
on, but that's okay, too. Um, and then

5096
04:04:01,840 --> 04:04:04,560
the first aid cabinets, they contain uh

5097
04:04:04,560 --> 04:04:06,479
first aid kits, a stop with lead kit,

5098
04:04:06,479 --> 04:04:08,399
which has like a tourniquet, wound

5099
04:04:08,399 --> 04:04:11,279
compression, gauze, etc. a lifeback kit,

5100
04:04:11,279 --> 04:04:14,080
which is good for um like suctioning.

5101
04:04:14,080 --> 04:04:15,840
Like say for example, you can't do CPR

5102
04:04:15,840 --> 04:04:17,760
because it's a very large person, you

5103
04:04:17,760 --> 04:04:19,279
can't get your arms around them, you

5104
04:04:19,279 --> 04:04:20,880
could use something like a life back kit

5105
04:04:20,880 --> 04:04:23,920
to try and dislodge whatever is um

5106
04:04:23,920 --> 04:04:25,920
obstructing their throat. Um and then

5107
04:04:25,920 --> 04:04:29,840
also Narcan for any um opioid overdoses

5108
04:04:29,840 --> 04:04:32,239
as well. And then I also in the news

5109
04:04:32,239 --> 04:04:34,239
article for the roundup, I listed the

5110
04:04:34,239 --> 04:04:36,800
next upcoming CPR trainings and the next

5111
04:04:36,800 --> 04:04:38,239
one that's coming up is occurring at the

5112
04:04:38,239 --> 04:04:40,640
pack. And then the locations that they

5113
04:04:40,640 --> 04:04:43,040
are in are um circuit court, county

5114
04:04:43,040 --> 04:04:44,960
courthouse, road bridge, fairgrounds,

5115
04:04:44,960 --> 04:04:47,439
golf course, ice ring, both libraries,

5116
04:04:47,439 --> 04:04:49,600
both public health offices, Ronda View

5117
04:04:49,600 --> 04:04:52,560
Point Senior Center and the Southwest

5118
04:04:52,560 --> 04:04:54,080
Sublet Pioneer Senior Center in

5119
04:04:54,080 --> 04:04:57,120
Marbleton. And thanks again for um

5120
04:04:57,120 --> 04:04:59,040
supporting the project. I think it'll be

5121
04:04:59,040 --> 04:05:00,720
really beneficial for the county in case

5122
04:05:00,720 --> 04:05:02,239
anybody has an emergency and it's

5123
04:05:02,239 --> 04:05:03,840
accessible for the public to use as

5124
04:05:03,840 --> 04:05:06,399
well. So, thank you.

5125
04:05:06,399 --> 04:05:10,080
Do you have any questions from

5126
04:05:10,080 --> 04:05:14,630
>> Thank you.

5127
04:05:14,640 --> 04:05:16,960
» So, I think we're that project's pretty

5128
04:05:16,960 --> 04:05:19,359
well out the door and we had really good

5129
04:05:19,359 --> 04:05:21,760
turnout. So, thanks for your support on

5130
04:05:21,760 --> 04:05:25,120
that one. Okay, other updates I wanted

5131
04:05:25,120 --> 04:05:28,800
to let you know about. Um, the nurse I

5132
04:05:28,800 --> 04:05:31,199
had hired full-time resigned at the

5133
04:05:31,199 --> 04:05:36,479
beginning of this month. So, I um

5134
04:05:36,479 --> 04:05:38,560
need to request that we can fill that

5135
04:05:38,560 --> 04:05:40,960
full-time position. It is I'll remind

5136
04:05:40,960 --> 04:05:43,439
you it's a full-time state nurse

5137
04:05:43,439 --> 04:05:46,560
position. So, 65% of that position is

5138
04:05:46,560 --> 04:05:49,760
paid for by the state and 35% from the

5139
04:05:49,760 --> 04:05:53,920
county. So, no change really, but um but

5140
04:05:53,920 --> 04:05:59,830
we would be opening up that job again.

5141
04:05:59,840 --> 04:06:01,359
Um,

5142
04:06:01,359 --> 04:06:03,279
the other thing I wanted to update you

5143
04:06:03,279 --> 04:06:07,040
on is we have I have talked several

5144
04:06:07,040 --> 04:06:08,479
years about trying to get a women's

5145
04:06:08,479 --> 04:06:10,960
health project up and running. I found a

5146
04:06:10,960 --> 04:06:14,000
nurse practitioner, Stephanie Claudio,

5147
04:06:14,000 --> 04:06:17,600
that is um, willing to work one day a

5148
04:06:17,600 --> 04:06:20,479
week. She's Bob Claudianos from the fire

5149
04:06:20,479 --> 04:06:22,720
department, his wife, and she's done

5150
04:06:22,720 --> 04:06:24,640
women's health in the past. She works in

5151
04:06:24,640 --> 04:06:26,800
Jackson also, but we would be looking to

5152
04:06:26,800 --> 04:06:29,359
try to start that planning one day a

5153
04:06:29,359 --> 04:06:32,560
month doing women's health exams, apps,

5154
04:06:32,560 --> 04:06:36,239
tests, um just wellness ex wellness

5155
04:06:36,239 --> 04:06:38,160
exams mostly for people that are

5156
04:06:38,160 --> 04:06:40,560
uninsured and underinsured.

5157
04:06:40,560 --> 04:06:46,080
So, um I you guys had allowed a $12,000

5158
04:06:46,080 --> 04:06:47,920
line that I haven't spent any money out

5159
04:06:47,920 --> 04:06:50,319
of this year, but I just wanted to make

5160
04:06:50,319 --> 04:06:52,560
sure that we were good to go moving

5161
04:06:52,560 --> 04:06:55,840
forward as I work with Clayton and to

5162
04:06:55,840 --> 04:06:58,479
try to to get a nurse practitioner under

5163
04:06:58,479 --> 04:07:00,640
contract that we can start working

5164
04:07:00,640 --> 04:07:02,319
through all the pieces to try to get

5165
04:07:02,319 --> 04:07:04,800
that clinic up and running one day and

5166
04:07:04,800 --> 04:07:09,510
Monday.

5167
04:07:09,520 --> 04:07:11,120
and

5168
04:07:11,120 --> 04:07:13,680
I'll bring more of that to you at at um

5169
04:07:13,680 --> 04:07:16,319
budget time. But yeah, I really haven't

5170
04:07:16,319 --> 04:07:17,840
been able we haven't been able to build

5171
04:07:17,840 --> 04:07:20,080
and really prove that program yet and I

5172
04:07:20,080 --> 04:07:22,239
appreciate your support when we're here

5173
04:07:22,239 --> 04:07:24,399
to let us help it transit off the

5174
04:07:24,399 --> 04:07:26,239
ground.

5175
04:07:26,239 --> 04:07:28,800
Um

5176
04:07:28,800 --> 04:07:33,680
our last item is back to building

5177
04:07:33,680 --> 04:07:38,389
discussion for public

5178
04:07:38,399 --> 04:07:41,520
in regards to building public health. Um

5179
04:07:41,520 --> 04:07:45,750
what's your search going?

5180
04:07:45,760 --> 04:07:47,279
You want to give me the authority? I'll

5181
04:07:47,279 --> 04:07:50,000
do it. [laughter]

5182
04:07:50,000 --> 04:07:55,830
>> Tell me how much money we got.

5183
04:07:55,840 --> 04:07:57,680
look at several different options. Of

5184
04:07:57,680 --> 04:07:59,680
course, the different payments that are

5185
04:07:59,680 --> 04:08:04,080
available coming up uh too small,

5186
04:08:04,080 --> 04:08:07,680
etc. Um we're not under contract with

5187
04:08:07,680 --> 04:08:12,870
anyone at this point in time.

5188
04:08:12,880 --> 04:08:14,560
There are a couple of abilities that

5189
04:08:14,560 --> 04:08:16,479
have come

5190
04:08:16,479 --> 04:08:22,389
available in the recent

5191
04:08:22,399 --> 04:08:27,269
past couple weeks. I think

5192
04:08:27,279 --> 04:08:29,199
And if we continue to look at the

5193
04:08:29,199 --> 04:08:32,960
different options and when we got up

5194
04:08:32,960 --> 04:08:35,600
last week that

5195
04:08:35,600 --> 04:08:37,199
I think we're going a certain direction

5196
04:08:37,199 --> 04:08:39,120
and then you throw a curve at us so we

5197
04:08:39,120 --> 04:08:43,040
have to stop and get um I believe that

5198
04:08:43,040 --> 04:08:46,239
you brought up

5199
04:08:46,239 --> 04:08:48,720
half or

5200
04:08:48,720 --> 04:08:52,160
half of the town hall.

5201
04:08:52,160 --> 04:08:54,239
So, first I wondered if we got any

5202
04:08:54,239 --> 04:08:57,680
resolution on proactive building that

5203
04:08:57,680 --> 04:08:58,800
>> I'm just looking at.

5204
04:08:58,800 --> 04:09:01,359
>> No, I know I I know we never explored. I

5205
04:09:01,359 --> 04:09:03,199
know the hospital district threw that

5206
04:09:03,199 --> 04:09:05,760
out there that that the town might be

5207
04:09:05,760 --> 04:09:08,239
willing to lease half the building, but

5208
04:09:08,239 --> 04:09:10,160
obviously if they could have a permanent

5209
04:09:10,160 --> 04:09:13,040
location that's counting on that be

5210
04:09:13,040 --> 04:09:15,680
preference, but that's why I threw it

5211
04:09:15,680 --> 04:09:17,439
out there. It's just like nothing we

5212
04:09:17,439 --> 04:09:20,960
really explored. We we have an offer on

5213
04:09:20,960 --> 04:09:23,840
the table with you know that we'll

5214
04:09:23,840 --> 04:09:27,040
address in the next couple of weeks

5215
04:09:27,040 --> 04:09:29,920
to inter

5216
04:09:29,920 --> 04:09:31,680
what is

5217
04:09:31,680 --> 04:09:37,429
with that re Pinedale

5218
04:09:37,439 --> 04:09:40,720
talk about longevity or tenure

5219
04:09:40,720 --> 04:09:44,479
having the clinic there and you take a

5220
04:09:44,479 --> 04:09:48,000
look at prices today versus these We

5221
04:09:48,000 --> 04:09:50,479
could probably come up with something

5222
04:09:50,479 --> 04:09:53,279
longterm lease that's put which is there

5223
04:09:53,279 --> 04:09:56,870
10 20 years

5224
04:09:56,880 --> 04:09:58,479
a large cash all the way at the

5225
04:09:58,479 --> 04:09:59,520
beginning.

5226
04:09:59,520 --> 04:10:03,760
>> Okay. So, are you asking

5227
04:10:03,760 --> 04:10:07,120
like myself or me and Janess to go start

5228
04:10:07,120 --> 04:10:09,520
conversations

5229
04:10:09,520 --> 04:10:13,760
um or ask them to come to the table?

5230
04:10:13,760 --> 04:10:17,120
Take a look at if it um

5231
04:10:17,120 --> 04:10:21,600
gives you the space and

5232
04:10:21,600 --> 04:10:23,439
features that you need and the price of

5233
04:10:23,439 --> 04:10:25,760
it.

5234
04:10:25,760 --> 04:10:27,760
if that's something that is an option

5235
04:10:27,760 --> 04:10:32,319
that we get involved with other

5236
04:10:32,319 --> 04:10:35,279
properties

5237
04:10:35,279 --> 04:10:39,040
and it may not but we don't know

5238
04:10:39,040 --> 04:10:41,359
but I think they have that one ring over

5239
04:10:41,359 --> 04:10:49,510
there when they had one tenant that

5240
04:10:49,520 --> 04:10:51,418
» I know

5241
04:10:51,418 --> 04:10:54,790
[laughter]

5242
04:10:54,800 --> 04:10:56,479
that except

5243
04:10:56,479 --> 04:10:58,000
We're not sure what direction we're

5244
04:10:58,000 --> 04:11:01,670
going with

5245
04:11:01,680 --> 04:11:08,469
existing proposal at this point.

5246
04:11:08,479 --> 04:11:10,399
I think we're getting close to kind of

5247
04:11:10,399 --> 04:11:12,239
the resolution that makes sense and we

5248
04:11:12,239 --> 04:11:14,319
want to make sure that we're not keeping

5249
04:11:14,319 --> 04:11:16,239
ourselves saying

5250
04:11:16,239 --> 04:11:20,710
this also

5251
04:11:20,720 --> 04:11:26,070
next meeting

5252
04:11:26,080 --> 04:11:27,920
in

5253
04:11:27,920 --> 04:11:38,870
Absolutely.

5254
04:11:38,880 --> 04:11:40,800
» Yes.

5255
04:11:40,800 --> 04:11:44,309
Proactive

5256
04:11:44,319 --> 04:11:48,000
emails this morning. Okay. There is

5257
04:11:48,000 --> 04:11:50,000
correspondence in that regard for

5258
04:11:50,000 --> 04:11:53,990
proactive this morning.

5259
04:11:54,000 --> 04:11:55,840
Not a position to discuss it today

5260
04:11:55,840 --> 04:11:58,080
because we haven't been through

5261
04:11:58,080 --> 04:12:01,840
identify the different uh

5262
04:12:01,840 --> 04:12:08,229
pros and cons of that

5263
04:12:08,239 --> 04:12:10,319
comes with some advice. Keep that set

5264
04:12:10,319 --> 04:12:23,910
aside.

5265
04:12:23,920 --> 04:12:26,319
» Okay.

5266
04:12:26,319 --> 04:12:29,279
through right now. That's the question.

5267
04:12:29,279 --> 04:12:34,389
Okay. Thank you.

5268
04:12:34,399 --> 04:12:45,429
And anything else for you?

5269
04:12:45,439 --> 04:12:47,920
» Um,

5270
04:12:47,920 --> 04:12:54,389
okay. Scan

5271
04:12:54,399 --> 04:13:00,710
the Cambridge powers.

5272
04:13:00,720 --> 04:13:03,840
We have Christie

5273
04:13:03,840 --> 04:13:04,800
first as well.

5274
04:13:04,800 --> 04:13:08,080
>> Yep. Christy, I am the nut membership

5275
04:13:08,080 --> 04:13:09,840
coordinator for South County Chamber of

5276
04:13:09,840 --> 04:13:12,239
Commerce. Thank you guys for giving us

5277
04:13:12,239 --> 04:13:16,175
this time. A little taller than

5278
04:13:16,175 --> 04:13:17,439
[clears throat]

5279
04:13:17,439 --> 04:13:20,080
um so we're here today to talk about a

5280
04:13:20,080 --> 04:13:21,439
problem that we're seeing in our

5281
04:13:21,439 --> 04:13:23,439
community and how we are hoping to

5282
04:13:23,439 --> 04:13:25,520
address it. how we're hoping to get your

5283
04:13:25,520 --> 04:13:29,760
support. Um, so keeping Wyoming talent

5284
04:13:29,760 --> 04:13:32,239
in Wyoming, it's a strategic overload of

5285
04:13:32,239 --> 04:13:34,239
workforce retention and economic

5286
04:13:34,239 --> 04:13:36,720
development and what the chamber is

5287
04:13:36,720 --> 04:13:38,800
doing about it. So the problem that we

5288
04:13:38,800 --> 04:13:40,960
are seeing is that we are losing a lot

5289
04:13:40,960 --> 04:13:44,159
of our own people. Wyoming has a talent

5290
04:13:44,159 --> 04:13:46,800
retention crisis. We raise and educate

5291
04:13:46,800 --> 04:13:50,319
our young people and watch them leave in

5292
04:13:50,319 --> 04:13:52,399
their place. We import workers from out

5293
04:13:52,399 --> 04:13:54,640
ofstate and fill the jobs our own

5294
04:13:54,640 --> 04:13:56,720
residents could hold. The cycle drains

5295
04:13:56,720 --> 04:13:59,439
local wealth, weakens community ties,

5296
04:13:59,439 --> 04:14:01,680
and makes long-term economic growth

5297
04:14:01,680 --> 04:14:04,720
harder to sustain. Um, and then I have

5298
04:14:04,720 --> 04:14:07,199
some pretty like large statistics. And

5299
04:14:07,199 --> 04:14:08,880
then your last page is where those

5300
04:14:08,880 --> 04:14:11,199
statistics are from just because they

5301
04:14:11,199 --> 04:14:12,720
are large. So, I just wanted to make

5302
04:14:12,720 --> 04:14:15,439
sure you can go look for yourself if you

5303
04:14:15,439 --> 04:14:19,199
have any questions about them. So 60% of

5304
04:14:19,199 --> 04:14:21,359
Wyoming born residents leave before

5305
04:14:21,359 --> 04:14:23,359
their 30s. That's the highest rate in

5306
04:14:23,359 --> 04:14:26,880
the nation. Um two times the national

5307
04:14:26,880 --> 04:14:30,800
average how migrate rate which is young

5308
04:14:30,800 --> 04:14:33,680
adults leave Wyoming at twice the rate

5309
04:14:33,680 --> 04:14:35,840
as other states

5310
04:14:35,840 --> 04:14:37,760
and 66%

5311
04:14:37,760 --> 04:14:41,840
of UW graduates re relocate after

5312
04:14:41,840 --> 04:14:43,840
earning their degrees. More than

5313
04:14:43,840 --> 04:14:46,640
twothirds of the University of Wyoming

5314
04:14:46,640 --> 04:14:48,880
students surveyed said for their future

5315
04:14:48,880 --> 04:14:51,680
in Wyoming was a maybe or a no. For

5316
04:14:51,680 --> 04:14:53,840
every one new Wyoming resident gained,

5317
04:14:53,840 --> 04:14:55,840
five people were needed to compensate

5318
04:14:55,840 --> 04:14:58,000
for those leaving. And the majority

5319
04:14:58,000 --> 04:15:00,800
leaving are between 25 and 34, which is,

5320
04:15:00,800 --> 04:15:03,120
you know, your main workforce.

5321
04:15:03,120 --> 04:15:07,840
Um, Sublet County median age is 43.5.

5322
04:15:07,840 --> 04:15:11,920
Uh that is the highest in Wyoming and

5323
04:15:11,920 --> 04:15:15,359
above the median average of 38.9

5324
04:15:15,359 --> 04:15:17,199
um in the nation. The county's

5325
04:15:17,199 --> 04:15:20,640
population has declined 13% since 2010

5326
04:15:20,640 --> 04:15:23,199
and now sits at approximately 8,900

5327
04:15:23,199 --> 04:15:25,199
people. And I mean I'm sure some of that

5328
04:15:25,199 --> 04:15:28,640
is just movement with, you know, oil

5329
04:15:28,640 --> 04:15:30,159
companies or whatever, but that is a

5330
04:15:30,159 --> 04:15:32,960
large statistic of people who have moved

5331
04:15:32,960 --> 04:15:37,680
out since 2010. The 25 to 34 age group,

5332
04:15:37,680 --> 04:15:40,479
the very workers businesses need most,

5333
04:15:40,479 --> 04:15:42,159
represent one of the smallest population

5334
04:15:42,159 --> 04:15:44,239
segments in our county. Without

5335
04:15:44,239 --> 04:15:46,960
intervention, this trend accelerates as

5336
04:15:46,960 --> 04:15:49,120
older residents retire and fewer young

5337
04:15:49,120 --> 04:15:52,399
people remain to replace them. The cycle

5338
04:15:52,399 --> 04:15:54,319
we're stuck in. Young people living

5339
04:15:54,319 --> 04:15:56,800
leaving, jobs go unfilled, out of state

5340
04:15:56,800 --> 04:15:59,840
workers arrive,

5341
04:15:59,840 --> 04:16:03,600
local economy stagnates, and it repeats.

5342
04:16:03,600 --> 04:16:06,080
Um, and I've talked to a lot of people.

5343
04:16:06,080 --> 04:16:09,279
I There's a thought process here of that

5344
04:16:09,279 --> 04:16:12,319
everyone wants their kids to go. I have

5345
04:16:12,319 --> 04:16:15,520
kids. My oldest is 19 and then I have a

5346
04:16:15,520 --> 04:16:18,080
17-year-old and I don't want them to go.

5347
04:16:18,080 --> 04:16:19,680
I want them to stay. I think it's

5348
04:16:19,680 --> 04:16:23,279
important to see what's outside of where

5349
04:16:23,279 --> 04:16:24,880
you're from, but I think a lot of times

5350
04:16:24,880 --> 04:16:27,840
the grass is, you know, looks a lot

5351
04:16:27,840 --> 04:16:29,840
greener. Um, and there's a lot of

5352
04:16:29,840 --> 04:16:31,840
opportunities right here in Wyoming. And

5353
04:16:31,840 --> 04:16:34,080
I think that we are underelling

5354
04:16:34,080 --> 04:16:37,840
ourselves. Wyoming is built

5355
04:16:37,840 --> 04:16:40,000
for it's it's like it's on a growth

5356
04:16:40,000 --> 04:16:42,159
trend. Wyoming is not a hard cell. The

5357
04:16:42,159 --> 04:16:44,880
conditions for a strong locally rooted

5358
04:16:44,880 --> 04:16:48,000
econ economy already exist. What's

5359
04:16:48,000 --> 04:16:50,239
missing is the connection between our

5360
04:16:50,239 --> 04:16:52,000
young people and the opportunities that

5361
04:16:52,000 --> 04:16:55,199
are right here. Um in Wyoming is the

5362
04:16:55,199 --> 04:16:56,960
number one entrepreneur state in the

5363
04:16:56,960 --> 04:16:59,680
United States. 98.9%

5364
04:16:59,680 --> 04:17:01,439
of Wyoming businesses are small

5365
04:17:01,439 --> 04:17:04,640
businesses. There's 3,400ish

5366
04:17:04,640 --> 04:17:07,359
jobs that will be opening that opened up

5367
04:17:07,359 --> 04:17:11,600
in 20 2023 and 2024. Um, state income

5368
04:17:11,600 --> 04:17:14,159
tax and corporate tax are zero. Wyoming

5369
04:17:14,159 --> 04:17:16,000
is open for business. Highest

5370
04:17:16,000 --> 04:17:18,560
entrepreneurship entrepreneurship rate

5371
04:17:18,560 --> 04:17:21,199
in the nation. No personal or corporate

5372
04:17:21,199 --> 04:17:24,479
income tax. 120% increase in business

5373
04:17:24,479 --> 04:17:28,319
applications in 2019 to 2022

5374
04:17:28,319 --> 04:17:30,880
and 65% of Wyoming workers are employed

5375
04:17:30,880 --> 04:17:33,359
by small businesses. More than two job

5376
04:17:33,359 --> 04:17:35,439
openings for every unemployed person in

5377
04:17:35,439 --> 04:17:37,040
Wyoming.

5378
04:17:37,040 --> 04:17:39,520
But survival without support is hard.

5379
04:17:39,520 --> 04:17:42,239
20% of small businesses fall in the

5380
04:17:42,239 --> 04:17:44,800
first year and 50% of small businesses

5381
04:17:44,800 --> 04:17:47,520
close by 5 years. The lack of business

5382
04:17:47,520 --> 04:17:49,359
knowledge is a leading cause for this

5383
04:17:49,359 --> 04:17:51,840
failure. Rural communities face added

5384
04:17:51,840 --> 04:17:53,840
challenges. Fewer mentors and less

5385
04:17:53,840 --> 04:17:56,319
access to capital. Without a local

5386
04:17:56,319 --> 04:17:59,359
workforce pipeline, growth starts to

5387
04:17:59,359 --> 04:18:01,040
stall.

5388
04:18:01,040 --> 04:18:02,800
The chamber's role in breaking the

5389
04:18:02,800 --> 04:18:05,439
cycle. Sublet County Chamber of Commerce

5390
04:18:05,439 --> 04:18:07,439
is taking direct action on both ends of

5391
04:18:07,439 --> 04:18:09,520
this challenge. By connecting high

5392
04:18:09,520 --> 04:18:11,840
school students to local careers before

5393
04:18:11,840 --> 04:18:14,080
they leave and equipping adults with the

5394
04:18:14,080 --> 04:18:16,239
skills to build and sustain local

5395
04:18:16,239 --> 04:18:18,159
businesses, we are investing in

5396
04:18:18,159 --> 04:18:21,199
Wyoming's growing economy. One that

5397
04:18:21,199 --> 04:18:23,439
creates real reasons for our people to

5398
04:18:23,439 --> 04:18:25,199
stay, build careers, and raise their

5399
04:18:25,199 --> 04:18:29,279
families here. We have a jumpart program

5400
04:18:29,279 --> 04:18:30,960
um and that is actually starting

5401
04:18:30,960 --> 04:18:33,439
tomorrow. Uh it's for adult

5402
04:18:33,439 --> 04:18:35,600
entrepreneurship program. It's a free

5403
04:18:35,600 --> 04:18:38,800
8-week course held at Subletis covering

5404
04:18:38,800 --> 04:18:40,800
the essentials of starting and running a

5405
04:18:40,800 --> 04:18:43,199
small business. It's designed for adults

5406
04:18:43,199 --> 04:18:45,120
at any stage, whether they have a new

5407
04:18:45,120 --> 04:18:47,520
idea or an existing business that they

5408
04:18:47,520 --> 04:18:49,680
want to strengthen. It's a six-part

5409
04:18:49,680 --> 04:18:52,080
class series covering key small business

5410
04:18:52,080 --> 04:18:55,920
topics. Um, graduates compete for seed

5411
04:18:55,920 --> 04:18:57,760
funding. So, if you attend all of the

5412
04:18:57,760 --> 04:19:00,640
classes, uh, there is a competition at

5413
04:19:00,640 --> 04:19:04,319
the end. you get to present your idea

5414
04:19:04,319 --> 04:19:07,760
and your business um plan and the winner

5415
04:19:07,760 --> 04:19:11,199
receives $5,000 and second place is 2500

5416
04:19:11,199 --> 04:19:12,880
and there's several businesses around

5417
04:19:12,880 --> 04:19:15,279
town that have competed in this program

5418
04:19:15,279 --> 04:19:18,080
in the past and are still here um Cathy

5419
04:19:18,080 --> 04:19:21,600
on board um Faser

5420
04:19:21,600 --> 04:19:24,640
and who's the other one that me oh um

5421
04:19:24,640 --> 04:19:27,040
local books she does our shows does our

5422
04:19:27,040 --> 04:19:30,479
books but um and then we have a quote

5423
04:19:30,479 --> 04:19:33,920
here from Aaron and he completed the

5424
04:19:33,920 --> 04:19:35,840
jump start class. The jump start class

5425
04:19:35,840 --> 04:19:37,680
was the best thing my partner and I did

5426
04:19:37,680 --> 04:19:40,239
when starting our company. It helped us

5427
04:19:40,239 --> 04:19:42,319
build our business plan, get organized,

5428
04:19:42,319 --> 04:19:45,040
secure funding, and establish our LLC. I

5429
04:19:45,040 --> 04:19:46,880
would recommend it to anyone thinking of

5430
04:19:46,880 --> 04:19:48,479
starting a business and I would love to

5431
04:19:48,479 --> 04:19:51,520
see it continue so others are afforded

5432
04:19:51,520 --> 04:19:54,080
the same opportunity. Um, and the other

5433
04:19:54,080 --> 04:19:55,279
program we're running is called

5434
04:19:55,279 --> 04:19:58,159
Pathways. It's a youth workforce and

5435
04:19:58,159 --> 04:20:00,080
career exploration program and it's for

5436
04:20:00,080 --> 04:20:02,479
high school students in Sublet County.

5437
04:20:02,479 --> 04:20:04,800
Students complete a work preparedness

5438
04:20:04,800 --> 04:20:07,760
class at Sublet Boseis. Um and this just

5439
04:20:07,760 --> 04:20:09,760
teach them how to write a resume, how to

5440
04:20:09,760 --> 04:20:12,640
answer a phone, like etiquette, um

5441
04:20:12,640 --> 04:20:14,080
business etiquette, how to dress

5442
04:20:14,080 --> 04:20:16,640
professionally. Um and then they are

5443
04:20:16,640 --> 04:20:18,720
paired with a paid summer internship in

5444
04:20:18,720 --> 04:20:20,640
a field they are most interested in. The

5445
04:20:20,640 --> 04:20:23,040
goal is to show Sublet County students

5446
04:20:23,040 --> 04:20:25,840
that there are careers they want that

5447
04:20:25,840 --> 04:20:28,319
exist right here at home. Internship

5448
04:20:28,319 --> 04:20:31,680
opportunities across local trades and

5449
04:20:31,680 --> 04:20:33,600
industries, healthc care, energy,

5450
04:20:33,600 --> 04:20:36,720
welding, mechanics, and more. Um, we

5451
04:20:36,720 --> 04:20:39,040
have two that we've worked with the

5452
04:20:39,040 --> 04:20:40,880
hospital. So there will be one

5453
04:20:40,880 --> 04:20:43,199
internship in radiology and one in

5454
04:20:43,199 --> 04:20:45,920
nursing, which I mean that's great

5455
04:20:45,920 --> 04:20:47,760
opportunities for kids that are going to

5456
04:20:47,760 --> 04:20:50,880
stay, but possibly just to have that

5457
04:20:50,880 --> 04:20:52,319
opportunity to see if that's really

5458
04:20:52,319 --> 04:20:53,840
something they want to invest in before

5459
04:20:53,840 --> 04:20:57,520
they start college. Um the blue spruce

5460
04:20:57,520 --> 04:21:00,479
dry pine helium plant, we're we are in

5461
04:21:00,479 --> 04:21:02,319
the process of talking to them, seeing

5462
04:21:02,319 --> 04:21:04,720
if we can get some kids out there. Uh

5463
04:21:04,720 --> 04:21:07,199
the chamber covers 40% of the internship

5464
04:21:07,199 --> 04:21:09,600
wages so that businesses of any size can

5465
04:21:09,600 --> 04:21:12,159
participate. Employers provide a job

5466
04:21:12,159 --> 04:21:14,239
description and set a clear expectation

5467
04:21:14,239 --> 04:21:16,479
for students. And it's a 60-hour paid

5468
04:21:16,479 --> 04:21:20,479
summer internship. Um and so it's $600

5469
04:21:20,479 --> 04:21:24,630
and we pay 40 of that.

5470
04:21:24,640 --> 04:21:26,640
An invitation to invest in something

5471
04:21:26,640 --> 04:21:28,319
bigger. The Subwlet County Chamber of

5472
04:21:28,319 --> 04:21:30,720
Commerce is not just running programs.

5473
04:21:30,720 --> 04:21:33,520
We are building a vision. a a subwo

5474
04:21:33,520 --> 04:21:35,199
county where our young people see a

5475
04:21:35,199 --> 04:21:36,880
future here. Where locals start

5476
04:21:36,880 --> 04:21:38,640
businesses, fill jobs, and raise their

5477
04:21:38,640 --> 04:21:41,359
families in a community they grew up in.

5478
04:21:41,359 --> 04:21:43,600
Where economic growth is driven by the

5479
04:21:43,600 --> 04:21:45,520
people who belong here, not by an

5480
04:21:45,520 --> 04:21:48,000
endless cycle of importing

5481
04:21:48,000 --> 04:21:51,120
talent from somewhere else. This vision

5482
04:21:51,120 --> 04:21:53,040
is being driven by a volunteer board

5483
04:21:53,040 --> 04:21:55,359
that gives thousands of hours, not

5484
04:21:55,359 --> 04:21:57,120
because they have to, but because they

5485
04:21:57,120 --> 04:22:00,159
believe in Sublet County. We are asking

5486
04:22:00,159 --> 04:22:02,720
the board of county commissioners to

5487
04:22:02,720 --> 04:22:04,319
share in that belief and become a

5488
04:22:04,319 --> 04:22:07,199
partner in building it. We currently

5489
04:22:07,199 --> 04:22:09,920
offer all chamber programs free so they

5490
04:22:09,920 --> 04:22:11,600
are accessible to everyone in our

5491
04:22:11,600 --> 04:22:13,359
community and that means these programs

5492
04:22:13,359 --> 04:22:15,439
depend entirely on sponsorships to

5493
04:22:15,439 --> 04:22:18,159
exist. Without continued support, we

5494
04:22:18,159 --> 04:22:19,920
will not be able to keep them free

5495
04:22:19,920 --> 04:22:22,239
forever. County investment directly

5496
04:22:22,239 --> 04:22:24,880
funds this work on behalf of our

5497
04:22:24,880 --> 04:22:26,880
constituents and helps us keep this

5498
04:22:26,880 --> 04:22:30,720
promise. So to run pathways um would be

5499
04:22:30,720 --> 04:22:33,600
for 20 internships

5500
04:22:33,600 --> 04:22:36,239
that would be $5,000 and that would be

5501
04:22:36,239 --> 04:22:41,120
us paying the 40% of the 600.

5502
04:22:41,120 --> 04:22:44,479
And um and none of the money that we get

5503
04:22:44,479 --> 04:22:46,159
for these sponsorship goes to

5504
04:22:46,159 --> 04:22:49,760
administration. Um I mean I'm the only

5505
04:22:49,760 --> 04:22:53,199
employee but it my wages are paid

5506
04:22:53,199 --> 04:22:55,120
through membership. So this all just

5507
04:22:55,120 --> 04:22:56,880
stays within the program. it's not

5508
04:22:56,880 --> 04:22:59,760
being, you know, partially branched out

5509
04:22:59,760 --> 04:23:02,239
to pay administration's fee. And then we

5510
04:23:02,239 --> 04:23:05,359
actually do have um funding for

5511
04:23:05,359 --> 04:23:09,760
Jumpstart this year through BOSEIS. Um

5512
04:23:09,760 --> 04:23:13,520
but we still need $2,000 for that

5513
04:23:13,520 --> 04:23:17,040
program. And that is to cover because

5514
04:23:17,040 --> 04:23:19,439
next year we've applied for the grant

5515
04:23:19,439 --> 04:23:21,680
again through Boseies and we had to drop

5516
04:23:21,680 --> 04:23:24,479
it by 20%. That was just the ask of

5517
04:23:24,479 --> 04:23:26,640
going back into that grant. So we will

5518
04:23:26,640 --> 04:23:28,800
be losing money next year for that

5519
04:23:28,800 --> 04:23:32,159
program. Um the chamber does one thing

5520
04:23:32,159 --> 04:23:34,640
exceptionally well and that's promotion.

5521
04:23:34,640 --> 04:23:38,239
So if you decide to be a part of this

5522
04:23:38,239 --> 04:23:42,319
program, we will make sure and

5523
04:23:42,319 --> 04:23:44,960
let everyone know in every forum that we

5524
04:23:44,960 --> 04:23:47,279
have whether it's a flyer social media

5525
04:23:47,279 --> 04:23:51,680
post um having you I am on one of the

5526
04:23:51,680 --> 04:23:53,920
midday shows on the radio station having

5527
04:23:53,920 --> 04:23:55,359
you guys on the midday show to talk

5528
04:23:55,359 --> 04:23:57,760
about your contribution.

5529
04:23:57,760 --> 04:24:00,080
um we would make sure that everyone knew

5530
04:24:00,080 --> 04:24:03,359
that the commissioners supported and

5531
04:24:03,359 --> 04:24:06,080
funded this program because it's not

5532
04:24:06,080 --> 04:24:08,880
really a it's not really a donation.

5533
04:24:08,880 --> 04:24:11,760
It's a demonstration of leadership. So

5534
04:24:11,760 --> 04:24:13,520
the public county chamber of commerce

5535
04:24:13,520 --> 04:24:15,520
believes the strongest Wyoming economy

5536
04:24:15,520 --> 04:24:17,600
is one built by Wyoming people.

5537
04:24:17,600 --> 04:24:19,680
Jumpstart and pathways are our

5538
04:24:19,680 --> 04:24:21,760
commitment to this vision, creating the

5539
04:24:21,760 --> 04:24:23,520
conditions for our residents to build

5540
04:24:23,520 --> 04:24:25,439
careers, open businesses, and invest

5541
04:24:25,439 --> 04:24:29,830
their future right here at home.

5542
04:24:29,840 --> 04:24:35,670
Do you have any questions?

5543
04:24:35,680 --> 04:24:38,880
» I'd like I'd like to make comment.

5544
04:24:38,880 --> 04:24:41,520
>> Okay.

5545
04:24:41,520 --> 04:24:44,790
>> So,

5546
04:24:44,800 --> 04:24:48,479
we're here survival without supporting

5547
04:24:48,479 --> 04:24:55,189
about 20% fail in first year, 50%.

5548
04:24:55,199 --> 04:24:58,239
So, I've been around here quite a while.

5549
04:24:58,239 --> 04:25:00,960
Sometimes I take too long,

5550
04:25:00,960 --> 04:25:03,040
but I've watched

5551
04:25:03,040 --> 04:25:07,760
a lot of small businesses start up.

5552
04:25:07,760 --> 04:25:12,159
And usually the ones that make it

5553
04:25:12,159 --> 04:25:14,720
are the ones who know they have to do

5554
04:25:14,720 --> 04:25:17,439
the work, not hire somebody to go do it

5555
04:25:17,439 --> 04:25:21,760
for them. And and I think that's true in

5556
04:25:21,760 --> 04:25:25,040
any small business because if you're the

5557
04:25:25,040 --> 04:25:27,120
only one that's invested in them, you're

5558
04:25:27,120 --> 04:25:29,760
going to work harder to cut costs

5559
04:25:29,760 --> 04:25:33,439
wherever you can. The skills perform so

5560
04:25:33,439 --> 04:25:36,399
to speak. And so

5561
04:25:36,399 --> 04:25:40,000
I I think that needs to be where you're

5562
04:25:40,000 --> 04:25:42,720
putting on these

5563
04:25:42,720 --> 04:25:44,319
classes.

5564
04:25:44,319 --> 04:25:46,319
That needs in my mind that's number one

5565
04:25:46,319 --> 04:25:48,880
problem because if you're out there and

5566
04:25:48,880 --> 04:25:50,319
you say, "Well, we're gonna we're gonna

5567
04:25:50,319 --> 04:25:52,159
start up this business, but we got to

5568
04:25:52,159 --> 04:25:54,319
have two or three people to help us."

5569
04:25:54,319 --> 04:25:56,159
That's the first big drag on what you're

5570
04:25:56,159 --> 04:25:58,159
trying to do. In my opinion, I agree

5571
04:25:58,159 --> 04:25:58,800
with you.

5572
04:25:58,800 --> 04:26:00,640
>> I've watched it happen in some of the

5573
04:26:00,640 --> 04:26:02,960
counties on both ends of the county,

5574
04:26:02,960 --> 04:26:05,279
time after time.

5575
04:26:05,279 --> 04:26:06,720
Mom and pop will get together say,

5576
04:26:06,720 --> 04:26:08,159
"Yeah, we've been doing this and all of

5577
04:26:08,159 --> 04:26:10,080
a sudden, well, we got to have the kids.

5578
04:26:10,080 --> 04:26:12,080
We got out of this and that." very soon

5579
04:26:12,080 --> 04:26:15,680
the two men or two person operation

5580
04:26:15,680 --> 04:26:17,840
is five or six and it just can't sustain

5581
04:26:17,840 --> 04:26:22,560
it. So it takes a while to generate what

5582
04:26:22,560 --> 04:26:25,120
you've got to do to make it viable. But

5583
04:26:25,120 --> 04:26:27,600
that to me that's very important to be

5584
04:26:27,600 --> 04:26:37,910
able to start and go

5585
04:26:37,920 --> 04:26:42,469
and today

5586
04:26:42,479 --> 04:26:48,229
it's just worse than it would have been.

5587
04:26:48,239 --> 04:26:52,080
I had said that [laughter]

5588
04:26:52,080 --> 04:26:54,880
but but in reality

5589
04:26:54,880 --> 04:26:58,080
that's the thing I've seen.

5590
04:26:58,080 --> 04:26:59,520
>> I agree with you and I think no one's

5591
04:26:59,520 --> 04:27:00,640
ever going to care about your business

5592
04:27:00,640 --> 04:27:03,439
the way that you do. So, you know, if

5593
04:27:03,439 --> 04:27:04,960
you're not going to invest in it, nobody

5594
04:27:04,960 --> 04:27:14,229
else is going to either.

5595
04:27:14,239 --> 04:27:17,429
» Fantastic.

5596
04:27:17,439 --> 04:27:24,309
You were you and me or me?

5597
04:27:24,319 --> 04:27:26,720
» Absolutely. Especially drafted by you.

5598
04:27:26,720 --> 04:27:29,760
>> Yeah. So, you know, I don't the end of

5599
04:27:29,760 --> 04:27:34,080
the day for them, but I tell you what

5600
04:27:34,080 --> 04:27:40,710
to come in.

5601
04:27:40,720 --> 04:27:46,790
They're not suspect.

5602
04:27:46,800 --> 04:27:49,120
my way.

5603
04:27:49,120 --> 04:27:55,269
>> I appreciate that. Thank you.

5604
04:27:55,279 --> 04:27:57,520
» Anyone else?

5605
04:27:57,520 --> 04:27:59,520
>> Questions, comments?

5606
04:27:59,520 --> 04:28:01,120
>> Well, I really appreciate you giving us

5607
04:28:01,120 --> 04:28:03,760
this time and you know, I hope that you

5608
04:28:03,760 --> 04:28:05,840
decide to invest in us because we are

5609
04:28:05,840 --> 04:28:07,199
definitely here to invest in our

5610
04:28:07,199 --> 04:28:18,790
community. Thank you.

5611
04:28:18,800 --> 04:28:26,790
Is that page?

5612
04:28:26,800 --> 04:28:29,279
» I forgot in case public showed up and

5613
04:28:29,279 --> 04:28:32,159
needed handouts as well from the ones

5614
04:28:32,159 --> 04:28:35,279
that are attached. Um, good afternoon,

5615
04:28:35,279 --> 04:28:37,120
Chairman Bernard and commissioners.

5616
04:28:37,120 --> 04:28:38,560
Thank you for the time and opportunity

5617
04:28:38,560 --> 04:28:42,000
to speak. I'm Sage Price. I um I serve

5618
04:28:42,000 --> 04:28:43,439
as the Salt Lake County Chamber of

5619
04:28:43,439 --> 04:28:46,880
Commerce President. Um

5620
04:28:46,880 --> 04:28:48,479
I

5621
04:28:48,479 --> 04:28:50,479
thank you for putting us on the agenda

5622
04:28:50,479 --> 04:28:54,080
today. Um I just wanted to as the

5623
04:28:54,080 --> 04:28:59,199
petition for the um proposed 1%

5624
04:28:59,199 --> 04:29:02,880
um tax sales tax increase. Um I wanted

5625
04:29:02,880 --> 04:29:04,880
to give the public the opportunity to

5626
04:29:04,880 --> 04:29:07,520
speak with the officials. We've had town

5627
04:29:07,520 --> 04:29:09,439
council meetings both in Pinedell and

5628
04:29:09,439 --> 04:29:14,000
over here in um in Marvelton. And so I

5629
04:29:14,000 --> 04:29:16,640
just wanted to give if any of the public

5630
04:29:16,640 --> 04:29:20,319
wanted to speak or anyone had concerns

5631
04:29:20,319 --> 04:29:22,000
um that they would be able to bring them

5632
04:29:22,000 --> 04:29:24,880
to those who are going to be making the

5633
04:29:24,880 --> 04:29:27,680
decisions and spending the money if um

5634
04:29:27,680 --> 04:29:31,199
if it comes gets onto the petition or

5635
04:29:31,199 --> 04:29:34,800
onto the ballot and then voted in. So,

5636
04:29:34,800 --> 04:29:37,760
um I've attached some handouts that just

5637
04:29:37,760 --> 04:29:41,600
kind of overview of it. Again, a sales

5638
04:29:41,600 --> 04:29:44,640
um tax chart that shows what other

5639
04:29:44,640 --> 04:29:48,640
counties in the state are paying. Um so,

5640
04:29:48,640 --> 04:29:50,319
I don't know if we want to kind of do a

5641
04:29:50,319 --> 04:29:53,040
quick overview or if we just want to

5642
04:29:53,040 --> 04:29:55,520
jump into questions

5643
04:29:55,520 --> 04:30:03,830
if there are any.

5644
04:30:03,840 --> 04:30:06,080
ask questions or are we asking

5645
04:30:06,080 --> 04:30:09,600
>> both if you if you have questions again

5646
04:30:09,600 --> 04:30:12,720
a lot of it um but the attachments one

5647
04:30:12,720 --> 04:30:15,760
attachment was the um handout that you

5648
04:30:15,760 --> 04:30:19,040
all provided at the meeting um when it

5649
04:30:19,040 --> 04:30:23,120
was sent to a petition and then um an

5650
04:30:23,120 --> 04:30:26,720
overview just kind of that has been put

5651
04:30:26,720 --> 04:30:29,439
together of what the fifth penny is and

5652
04:30:29,439 --> 04:30:32,640
then the sales tax chart for the state

5653
04:30:32,640 --> 04:30:35,520
as well as um the town of Pindel

5654
04:30:35,520 --> 04:30:37,680
provided kind of where the spending

5655
04:30:37,680 --> 04:30:42,560
power is where from 2016 until 2026 and

5656
04:30:42,560 --> 04:30:46,000
showing that the the town of Pineell's

5657
04:30:46,000 --> 04:30:51,510
spending power has decreased. So

5658
04:30:51,520 --> 04:30:53,520
» Commissioner Brad question for you

5659
04:30:53,520 --> 04:30:55,920
please fishing that was going around

5660
04:30:55,920 --> 04:30:57,920
were you guys the sponsor of that or

5661
04:30:57,920 --> 04:30:59,600
what's the story about fishing? I

5662
04:30:59,600 --> 04:31:00,960
haven't seen or heard anything on a

5663
04:31:00,960 --> 04:31:01,520
thing.

5664
04:31:01,520 --> 04:31:04,720
>> So, we we do because the chamber is a

5665
04:31:04,720 --> 04:31:07,040
501c6,

5666
04:31:07,040 --> 04:31:09,920
we have instead of a lot of um

5667
04:31:09,920 --> 04:31:12,239
nonprofits or 501c3s

5668
04:31:12,239 --> 04:31:14,640
and because of our 501c6

5669
04:31:14,640 --> 04:31:17,920
business designation, we have a

5670
04:31:17,920 --> 04:31:19,520
representing interest of the local

5671
04:31:19,520 --> 04:31:22,640
businesses and community that affect the

5672
04:31:22,640 --> 04:31:25,920
broader economic um impact. So the

5673
04:31:25,920 --> 04:31:28,399
chamber is one of the only organizations

5674
04:31:28,399 --> 04:31:34,399
that can um put out the petition and um

5675
04:31:34,399 --> 04:31:36,640
hold meetings about it. So

5676
04:31:36,640 --> 04:31:38,720
>> So to begin with, I saw around a few

5677
04:31:38,720 --> 04:31:40,159
places.

5678
04:31:40,159 --> 04:31:41,920
>> Yep. It's still it's still in the same

5679
04:31:41,920 --> 04:31:44,159
Yep. It's they're still in the same

5680
04:31:44,159 --> 04:31:46,159
places. So there's one at um Kindle Town

5681
04:31:46,159 --> 04:31:48,880
Hall. I personally have one on me at all

5682
04:31:48,880 --> 04:31:50,560
times. There's one over at the rec

5683
04:31:50,560 --> 04:31:53,279
center in um over here in Big Piney.

5684
04:31:53,279 --> 04:31:54,800
There's one at Big [clears throat] Penny

5685
04:31:54,800 --> 04:31:58,239
Town Hall as well.

5686
04:31:58,239 --> 04:32:02,790
>> We're over we're over half.

5687
04:32:02,800 --> 04:32:05,439
It has to be done by the end of April to

5688
04:32:05,439 --> 04:32:07,520
get onto the ballot for August 19th. And

5689
04:32:07,520 --> 04:32:10,880
so just and we have not set up like a

5690
04:32:10,880 --> 04:32:12,960
Ridleys or anything like that. We've

5691
04:32:12,960 --> 04:32:14,800
kind of tried to not be super invasive

5692
04:32:14,800 --> 04:32:16,880
with it, but we do have over half the

5693
04:32:16,880 --> 04:32:23,670
signatures.

5694
04:32:23,680 --> 04:32:24,720
» What's the feedback that you're

5695
04:32:24,720 --> 04:32:28,000
typically receiving in regards to

5696
04:32:28,000 --> 04:32:32,800
>> um a lot of the questions are

5697
04:32:32,800 --> 04:32:35,359
with the industrial impact funding

5698
04:32:35,359 --> 04:32:38,159
coming in, why the residents should bear

5699
04:32:38,159 --> 04:32:40,720
the cost of it um with the increased

5700
04:32:40,720 --> 04:32:43,040
funding. And so explaining that that is

5701
04:32:43,040 --> 04:32:45,520
from Cheyenne that if we are to receive

5702
04:32:45,520 --> 04:32:47,920
the impact funding from the Blue Spruce

5703
04:32:47,920 --> 04:32:50,080
project that there has to be the fifth

5704
04:32:50,080 --> 04:32:52,479
penny enacted that that's not something

5705
04:32:52,479 --> 04:32:53,920
that the commissioners came up with.

5706
04:32:53,920 --> 04:32:55,199
That's not something that the town

5707
04:32:55,199 --> 04:32:56,479
councils came up with. It's not

5708
04:32:56,479 --> 04:32:58,239
something that the public came up with.

5709
04:32:58,239 --> 04:33:01,600
That is the the

5710
04:33:01,600 --> 04:33:04,561
stipulation to receive the funding out

5711
04:33:04,561 --> 04:33:07,920
of Cheyenne. And so we're just letting

5712
04:33:07,920 --> 04:33:09,760
the public know that if we want to

5713
04:33:09,760 --> 04:33:11,760
receive this impact funding that it has

5714
04:33:11,760 --> 04:33:15,760
to be the fifth penny has to be enacted.

5715
04:33:15,760 --> 04:33:18,320
Um, one of the big questions is what

5716
04:33:18,320 --> 04:33:21,520
happens if the large project changes or

5717
04:33:21,520 --> 04:33:24,240
does not fully materialize. And so I

5718
04:33:24,240 --> 04:33:25,680
guess that's one question from you all

5719
04:33:25,680 --> 04:33:29,520
is what if the impact funding if the

5720
04:33:29,520 --> 04:33:33,119
fifth penny is passed and for some

5721
04:33:33,119 --> 04:33:35,600
reason the blue spruce project does not

5722
04:33:35,600 --> 04:33:38,799
go through what happens with that impact

5723
04:33:38,799 --> 04:33:42,400
funding awarded from the state.

5724
04:33:42,400 --> 04:33:44,480
I don't believe there's any correlation

5725
04:33:44,480 --> 04:33:47,119
the 1% tax

5726
04:33:47,119 --> 04:33:50,400
fighting portion and the additional

5727
04:33:50,400 --> 04:33:53,680
pending tax independent of each other

5728
04:33:53,680 --> 04:33:57,039
the project fails 1% continues until the

5729
04:33:57,039 --> 04:34:01,840
next until the four years of being

5730
04:34:01,840 --> 04:34:04,799
>> so what happens if the um the impact

5731
04:34:04,799 --> 04:34:07,439
funding is awarded over 20 payments over

5732
04:34:07,439 --> 04:34:09,359
three years is that correct

5733
04:34:09,359 --> 04:34:10,000
>> right

5734
04:34:10,000 --> 04:34:12,719
>> so what happens if halfway through

5735
04:34:12,719 --> 04:34:15,680
something happens with the project. What

5736
04:34:15,680 --> 04:34:18,400
happens to the impact funds?

5737
04:34:18,400 --> 04:34:24,470
>> I would presume that there's a

5738
04:34:24,480 --> 04:34:27,119
project funding money

5739
04:34:27,119 --> 04:34:30,320
that um

5740
04:34:30,320 --> 04:34:33,119
with what you find CL

5741
04:34:33,119 --> 04:34:36,160
Mr. Chairman. Yes. So that is my

5742
04:34:36,160 --> 04:34:39,279
understanding is that if the project if

5743
04:34:39,279 --> 04:34:40,719
construction on the project were to

5744
04:34:40,719 --> 04:34:45,359
cease then the funding would also cease

5745
04:34:45,359 --> 04:34:48,959
in that circumstance. Correct. However,

5746
04:34:48,959 --> 04:34:56,719
it is DQ's uh uh position or

5747
04:34:56,719 --> 04:34:58,799
yeah position that that is a very low

5748
04:34:58,799 --> 04:35:01,279
risk that projects of this scale

5749
04:35:01,279 --> 04:35:04,959
generally do not stop

5750
04:35:04,959 --> 04:35:07,680
and the addition of one%

5751
04:35:07,680 --> 04:35:10,160
>> would continue for the four years. So,

5752
04:35:10,160 --> 04:35:13,520
um, that's another

5753
04:35:13,520 --> 04:35:16,879
>> question is the or another statement

5754
04:35:16,879 --> 04:35:18,799
that we've been hearing a lot is it

5755
04:35:18,799 --> 04:35:21,119
starts with 5% and then pretty soon it's

5756
04:35:21,119 --> 04:35:25,359
six or 7%. And um really the

5757
04:35:25,359 --> 04:35:27,840
understanding that it there is a sunset

5758
04:35:27,840 --> 04:35:30,240
clause in

5759
04:35:30,240 --> 04:35:33,119
the initiative or with the fifth penny

5760
04:35:33,119 --> 04:35:35,680
that it does it lasts for four years and

5761
04:35:35,680 --> 04:35:38,639
after that it has to go back on and be

5762
04:35:38,639 --> 04:35:46,240
voted by the citizens again. It doesn't roll over. So

5763
04:35:46,240 --> 04:35:48,639
>> renewal had nothing to do with any

5764
04:35:48,639 --> 04:35:51,119
additional percentage of taxes. Those

5765
04:35:51,119 --> 04:35:53,760
would individual

5766
04:35:53,760 --> 04:35:55,279
valid initially.

5767
04:35:55,279 --> 04:35:58,799
>> And then the last one is um how do the

5768
04:35:58,799 --> 04:36:04,000
communities so big Piny um Marvelton the

5769
04:36:04,000 --> 04:36:08,400
county um Pinedell the town. How do you

5770
04:36:08,400 --> 04:36:10,879
if it's passed and there's an increase

5771
04:36:10,879 --> 04:36:14,000
of the sales tax,

5772
04:36:14,000 --> 04:36:16,561
if it does not pass again in four years,

5773
04:36:16,561 --> 04:36:18,160
how do you balance your budgets again

5774
04:36:18,160 --> 04:36:22,160
once you've had the money and then it

5775
04:36:22,160 --> 04:36:24,320
potentially goes away? How are you going

5776
04:36:24,320 --> 04:36:26,719
to balance your budgets and when?

5777
04:36:26,719 --> 04:36:29,279
>> Just your budget cutbacks

5778
04:36:29,279 --> 04:36:32,719
and take a look at the budget process

5779
04:36:32,719 --> 04:36:34,959
that I will be going through in the next

5780
04:36:34,959 --> 04:36:38,240
couple of months. that's in the money

5781
04:36:38,240 --> 04:36:40,320
decreases you go through and make sure

5782
04:36:40,320 --> 04:36:42,160
that

5783
04:36:42,160 --> 04:36:44,480
expenditures don't exceed your income

5784
04:36:44,480 --> 04:36:47,680
and if the income's greater than

5785
04:36:47,680 --> 04:36:50,080
expenditures if that makes sense

5786
04:36:50,080 --> 04:36:51,760
>> and then also the understanding that it

5787
04:36:51,760 --> 04:36:54,080
goes into the general fund and it cannot

5788
04:36:54,080 --> 04:36:57,600
be earmarked or anything like that. I

5789
04:36:57,600 --> 04:37:00,240
think that's been a big misconception.

5790
04:37:00,240 --> 04:37:04,240
Um, and so the funds do have to go into

5791
04:37:04,240 --> 04:37:06,959
a general fund. And from there, and

5792
04:37:06,959 --> 04:37:08,480
again, in the commissioner's handout

5793
04:37:08,480 --> 04:37:11,039
from the the meeting where it was sent

5794
04:37:11,039 --> 04:37:13,359
to the petition, it outlines what the

5795
04:37:13,359 --> 04:37:15,199
counties are looking at and what the

5796
04:37:15,199 --> 04:37:17,199
municipalities are looking at using it

5797
04:37:17,199 --> 04:37:19,840
for.

5798
04:37:19,840 --> 04:37:21,520
>> And you're talking about sighting money

5799
04:37:21,520 --> 04:37:23,039
or the what?

5800
04:37:23,039 --> 04:37:24,000
>> The sighting money.

5801
04:37:24,000 --> 04:37:24,719
>> Sure.

5802
04:37:24,719 --> 04:37:27,279
money was determined by individual

5803
04:37:27,279 --> 04:37:31,760
entities within the county establishing

5804
04:37:31,760 --> 04:37:35,029
overall

5805
04:37:35,039 --> 04:37:38,000
attributed to the different departments

5806
04:37:38,000 --> 04:37:40,240
and from with that they created their

5807
04:37:40,240 --> 04:37:43,199
own budget as far as what they were

5808
04:37:43,199 --> 04:37:47,429
that's coming.

5809
04:37:47,439 --> 04:37:49,199
» Does that answer your question?

5810
04:37:49,199 --> 04:37:50,879
>> It does. Yep. And that's and again this

5811
04:37:50,879 --> 04:37:53,199
is for kind of the public to be able to

5812
04:37:53,199 --> 04:37:55,760
ask questions as well and if if anyone

5813
04:37:55,760 --> 04:37:58,000
has and just to get the answers the

5814
04:37:58,000 --> 04:37:59,279
chamber of commerce is putting the

5815
04:37:59,279 --> 04:38:01,279
information out there but we're not

5816
04:38:01,279 --> 04:38:03,119
making the decisions where it's funding.

5817
04:38:03,119 --> 04:38:04,320
So we want to make sure that we're

5818
04:38:04,320 --> 04:38:07,920
giving those elected officials that are

5819
04:38:07,920 --> 04:38:10,879
making the decisions regarding the funds

5820
04:38:10,879 --> 04:38:13,199
um the chance to answer the questions

5821
04:38:13,199 --> 04:38:14,799
and have the discussions.

5822
04:38:14,799 --> 04:38:17,199
>> Are there any line online questions?

5823
04:38:17,199 --> 04:38:18,639
>> I don't see any hints.

5824
04:38:18,639 --> 04:38:22,240
>> Pardon me. I don't see any hands.

5825
04:38:22,240 --> 04:38:23,920
>> Thank you.

5826
04:38:23,920 --> 04:38:25,039
>> You're welcome.

5827
04:38:25,039 --> 04:38:26,639
>> Do any of you have any questions or

5828
04:38:26,639 --> 04:38:28,240
anything that I can answer?

5829
04:38:28,240 --> 04:38:30,480
>> Well, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to just

5830
04:38:30,480 --> 04:38:34,000
make a little comment.

5831
04:38:34,000 --> 04:38:37,600
So, here on the first presentation says

5832
04:38:37,600 --> 04:38:43,349
the opportunity is built for this

5833
04:38:43,359 --> 04:38:46,799
income tax or corporate tax.

5834
04:38:46,799 --> 04:38:49,439
Zero.

5835
04:38:49,439 --> 04:38:53,760
So, so that in itself

5836
04:38:53,760 --> 04:38:55,359
brings

5837
04:38:55,359 --> 04:38:58,400
companies into the state

5838
04:38:58,400 --> 04:39:01,840
and we're going to bump up

5839
04:39:01,840 --> 04:39:09,750
another py tax

5840
04:39:09,760 --> 04:39:14,551
with our significant contributors

5841
04:39:14,561 --> 04:39:19,670
our economy. We see it

5842
04:39:19,680 --> 04:39:22,799
the additional 1 cent may then step back

5843
04:39:22,799 --> 04:39:26,320
and say then maybe we need to address

5844
04:39:26,320 --> 04:39:29,760
something different so that when

5845
04:39:29,760 --> 04:39:32,799
so that the county passes this 20 cent

5846
04:39:32,799 --> 04:39:35,520
rather than us having five cents in the

5847
04:39:35,520 --> 04:39:41,750
county we may go someplace else.

5848
04:39:41,760 --> 04:39:45,680
So that's part of the way in my opinion.

5849
04:39:45,680 --> 04:39:48,798
The second thing is I talked around I've

5850
04:39:48,798 --> 04:39:54,150
known a lot of people time

5851
04:39:54,160 --> 04:39:56,958
invar

5852
04:39:56,958 --> 04:40:00,240
you put up penny tax

5853
04:40:00,240 --> 04:40:04,080
next thing you got to do on pennies

5854
04:40:04,080 --> 04:40:06,718
night. They don't believe it. They

5855
04:40:06,718 --> 04:40:09,680
involve projects

5856
04:40:09,680 --> 04:40:13,680
that unless this extra tax is on,

5857
04:40:13,680 --> 04:40:17,280
they don't get completed. And so you get

5858
04:40:17,280 --> 04:40:19,280
something started, you got to complete

5859
04:40:19,280 --> 04:40:21,440
it.

5860
04:40:21,440 --> 04:40:23,360
Good, bad, and different. Then fear

5861
04:40:23,360 --> 04:40:25,120
factors out there. Well, we've already

5862
04:40:25,120 --> 04:40:27,760
invested all this. We may as well do it

5863
04:40:27,760 --> 04:40:32,240
again. And so instead of in my opinion

5864
04:40:32,240 --> 04:40:36,560
in a year or two or in four years

5865
04:40:36,560 --> 04:40:40,000
for sense here we could conceivably we

5866
04:40:40,000 --> 04:40:48,708
look at six or maybe more

5867
04:40:48,718 --> 04:40:51,360
has a tendency

5868
04:40:51,360 --> 04:40:54,160
put me in a little about

5869
04:40:54,160 --> 04:40:57,750
a little bit.

5870
04:40:57,760 --> 04:41:01,830
It's it's

5871
04:41:01,840 --> 04:41:04,638
what they're what they're doing here. I

5872
04:41:04,638 --> 04:41:07,200
think what they and I'm not certain they

5873
04:41:07,200 --> 04:41:10,320
is okay. I think I I think and and quite

5874
04:41:10,320 --> 04:41:12,958
honestly as an individual I don't like

5875
04:41:12,958 --> 04:41:16,000
the idea of another sick here. Just so

5876
04:41:16,000 --> 04:41:18,000
you know that as a commissioner I can't

5877
04:41:18,000 --> 04:41:21,760
make a statement. So what it looks to me

5878
04:41:21,760 --> 04:41:25,680
like is we're doing the old maiden track

5879
04:41:25,680 --> 04:41:30,400
system here. You guys go ahead and

5880
04:41:30,400 --> 04:41:32,400
give us a scent the penny we get all

5881
04:41:32,400 --> 04:41:35,920
this money. Well, it's not always it's a

5882
04:41:35,920 --> 04:41:38,000
significant amount for here, here, here,

5883
04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:41,760
and here. But unless it's been changed

5884
04:41:41,760 --> 04:41:44,638
and here's the thing that really bothers

5885
04:41:44,638 --> 04:41:46,240
me

5886
04:41:46,240 --> 04:41:49,920
when we get so much money but we don't

5887
04:41:49,920 --> 04:41:52,160
get that so much money in one pot it's

5888
04:41:52,160 --> 04:41:54,958
over 20 months unless they change that

5889
04:41:54,958 --> 04:41:57,760
and I don't think that's

5890
04:41:57,760 --> 04:42:00,638
so you take an entity that says yeah

5891
04:42:00,638 --> 04:42:02,240
we're going to get a million dollars and

5892
04:42:02,240 --> 04:42:04,240
let's divide that by 20 how much There's

5893
04:42:04,240 --> 04:42:08,470
no stud,000

5894
04:42:08,480 --> 04:42:11,280
got a project put a million dollars

5895
04:42:11,280 --> 04:42:13,680
towards it, but now we can't because we

5896
04:42:13,680 --> 04:42:15,680
don't have that. So what do we do? Go to

5897
04:42:15,680 --> 04:42:19,360
the town

5898
04:42:19,360 --> 04:42:21,440
say, "Hey guys, we know we're going to

5899
04:42:21,440 --> 04:42:24,560
get it. Do you mind back?" So we get a

5900
04:42:24,560 --> 04:42:27,120
project going. Those are the kind of

5901
04:42:27,120 --> 04:42:30,240
things that made me a little bit

5902
04:42:30,240 --> 04:42:33,440
about something like this. I'd feel a

5903
04:42:33,440 --> 04:42:35,120
whole lot better if all that money

5904
04:42:35,120 --> 04:42:38,000
coming from the box and the entities

5905
04:42:38,000 --> 04:42:39,760
could say, "Oh yeah, we've got a town.

5906
04:42:39,760 --> 04:42:43,520
Let's use it where we want it to go."

5907
04:42:43,520 --> 04:42:48,240
But over time, unless you put it in a

5908
04:42:48,240 --> 04:42:50,560
specific account,

5909
04:42:50,560 --> 04:42:55,600
let it go that it's going to be used and

5910
04:42:55,600 --> 04:42:58,160
all of a sudden you say, "What help?"

5911
04:42:58,160 --> 04:42:59,760
Well, we did, but you know what? we had

5912
04:42:59,760 --> 04:43:02,160
to spend some years because that one

5913
04:43:02,160 --> 04:43:05,040
sent and less time

5914
04:43:05,040 --> 04:43:08,878
the information I don't think I have it

5915
04:43:08,878 --> 04:43:11,280
that's not tied into a specific writer

5916
04:43:11,280 --> 04:43:14,878
you can use it wherever you want and so

5917
04:43:14,878 --> 04:43:17,840
therein lies an issue

5918
04:43:17,840 --> 04:43:20,400
over 20 months a project that looks good

5919
04:43:20,400 --> 04:43:23,440
today may not look that good so why

5920
04:43:23,440 --> 04:43:25,760
don't we take that money that we've got

5921
04:43:25,760 --> 04:43:29,040
in six months still and move it over

5922
04:43:29,040 --> 04:43:32,240
Here's we complete a little story. We

5923
04:43:32,240 --> 04:43:37,600
didn't war. So the caveats to me

5924
04:43:37,600 --> 04:43:41,520
are buyer beware of that.

5925
04:43:41,520 --> 04:43:43,840
That's that's what I think we're getting

5926
04:43:43,840 --> 04:43:47,680
ourselves set up for. And

5927
04:43:47,680 --> 04:43:49,280
there's a lot of ways to make it look

5928
04:43:49,280 --> 04:43:53,280
good, but there's just as many not good.

5929
04:43:53,280 --> 04:43:56,718
And you take folks on fixed income.

5930
04:43:56,718 --> 04:43:58,878
That's not much. Well, if you've got a

5931
04:43:58,878 --> 04:44:02,400
$900 a month income, that penny over

5932
04:44:02,400 --> 04:44:04,000
time is a big decent.

5933
04:44:04,000 --> 04:44:06,798
>> It can be. Yes. And there's um there's

5934
04:44:06,798 --> 04:44:10,878
over 50 exemptions for it. Um it doesn't

5935
04:44:10,878 --> 04:44:14,638
it the it doesn't apply to

5936
04:44:14,638 --> 04:44:18,080
prescriptions, groceries, fuel, and

5937
04:44:18,080 --> 04:44:21,120
diesel or um fuel and gasoline. Um

5938
04:44:21,120 --> 04:44:23,680
there's over 50 exemptions that it

5939
04:44:23,680 --> 04:44:34,400
doesn't apply to for the taxpayers. So um and yes I I agree

5940
04:44:34,400 --> 04:44:37,520
that the the 20 payments over the three

5941
04:44:37,520 --> 04:44:41,040
years is it's the impact fund you you do

5942
04:44:41,040 --> 04:44:47,280
receive it but that is a risk that is out there

5943
04:44:47,280 --> 04:44:49,920
>> and

5944
04:44:49,920 --> 04:44:51,840
so I think correct me if I'm wrong

5945
04:44:51,840 --> 04:44:54,080
because I certainly could be but my

5946
04:44:54,080 --> 04:44:55,920
understanding what the project now has

5947
04:44:55,920 --> 04:44:58,638
not been started

5948
04:44:58,638 --> 04:45:04,708
>> I don't know about

5949
04:45:04,718 --> 04:45:07,200
I talked to him and they said it was

5950
04:45:07,200 --> 04:45:09,440
still on plan for me.

5951
04:45:09,440 --> 04:45:12,240
>> Yeah, but there was also a company that

5952
04:45:12,240 --> 04:45:15,440
called some quotes that said they they

5953
04:45:15,440 --> 04:45:18,000
don't have to do anything until 27. So

5954
04:45:18,000 --> 04:45:27,190
that said we do a year.

5955
04:45:27,200 --> 04:45:28,480
It's one of those things that could

5956
04:45:28,480 --> 04:45:30,480
become a show. Now you see it, now you

5957
04:45:30,480 --> 04:45:32,080
don't.

5958
04:45:32,080 --> 04:45:35,280
>> And so that's that's the scary part is

5959
04:45:35,280 --> 04:45:38,000
if you get a community into these things

5960
04:45:38,000 --> 04:45:39,760
and look around the state and see what

5961
04:45:39,760 --> 04:45:41,440
they're going to tell you. Yeah, we got

5962
04:45:41,440 --> 04:45:43,120
this. We thought it was okay. Now Park

5963
04:45:43,120 --> 04:45:46,080
County, put it out there and then they

5964
04:45:46,080 --> 04:45:47,840
took it back off and they'll put it

5965
04:45:47,840 --> 04:45:50,480
back. So there's reasons for that.

5966
04:45:50,480 --> 04:45:52,638
>> So it does happen and there's only two

5967
04:45:52,638 --> 04:45:55,120
counties in Wyoming that don't have it.

5968
04:45:55,120 --> 04:45:58,480
County and Park County. Um

5969
04:45:58,480 --> 04:46:00,480
>> I don't mind being on the table.

5970
04:46:00,480 --> 04:46:02,080
>> Yeah.

5971
04:46:02,080 --> 04:46:03,760
If that's what the voters want. Yeah.

5972
04:46:03,760 --> 04:46:06,000
>> Well, there will be those

5973
04:46:06,000 --> 04:46:07,920
going to get all people travel through

5974
04:46:07,920 --> 04:46:12,080
the community. All the the

5975
04:46:12,080 --> 04:46:13,360
folks who are going to stay there

5976
04:46:13,360 --> 04:46:16,638
overnight. They're going to spend spend. Well, they might for two or three

5977
04:46:16,638 --> 04:46:18,638
months,

5978
04:46:18,638 --> 04:46:20,718
but the other nine months been paid out

5979
04:46:20,718 --> 04:46:22,718
the bill.

5980
04:46:22,718 --> 04:46:26,798
We are all of us not not just us but

5981
04:46:26,798 --> 04:46:29,520
each individual and so

5982
04:46:29,520 --> 04:46:33,510
on

5983
04:46:33,520 --> 04:46:35,920
I don't think

5984
04:46:35,920 --> 04:46:41,142
personally making

5985
04:46:41,152 --> 04:46:42,400
[snorts]

5986
04:46:42,400 --> 04:46:44,560
>> so one thing that I've learned um in

5987
04:46:44,560 --> 04:46:46,400
doing the research and having the

5988
04:46:46,400 --> 04:46:51,440
meetings um is that of the 4% sales tax

5989
04:46:51,440 --> 04:46:54,638
right Now 69% of it goes back to the

5990
04:46:54,638 --> 04:46:58,160
state and with the with the additional

5991
04:46:58,160 --> 04:47:01,680
1% so the fifth penny 99% of it stays

5992
04:47:01,680 --> 04:47:07,670
within the county. So

5993
04:47:07,680 --> 04:47:10,080
takes a long time

5994
04:47:10,080 --> 04:47:13,360
to build up much over

5995
04:47:13,360 --> 04:47:15,840
20 months

5996
04:47:15,840 --> 04:47:19,200
for me as an individual and say that's a

5997
04:47:19,200 --> 04:47:21,840
great income. But when you're talking

5998
04:47:21,840 --> 04:47:26,320
about municipalities in the county,

5999
04:47:26,320 --> 04:47:28,240
you know,

6000
04:47:28,240 --> 04:47:29,680
you say, "Okay, we're going to start

6001
04:47:29,680 --> 04:47:31,200
this project, we know the money's

6002
04:47:31,200 --> 04:47:33,440
coming."

6003
04:47:33,440 --> 04:47:36,480
Then by the time you get up there, the

6004
04:47:36,480 --> 04:47:38,320
cost of living and everything else is

6005
04:47:38,320 --> 04:47:40,320
increased to the point where what you

6006
04:47:40,320 --> 04:47:45,030
thought.

6007
04:47:45,040 --> 04:47:48,000
So there we are.

6008
04:47:48,000 --> 04:47:51,520
There's a lot of pitfalls that even

6009
04:47:51,520 --> 04:47:54,878
we've got we've got company individuals

6010
04:47:54,878 --> 04:47:57,440
coming into this company because we

6011
04:47:57,440 --> 04:48:00,878
don't have that extra penny. And so in

6012
04:48:00,878 --> 04:48:04,958
my mind we pass this many people

6013
04:48:04,958 --> 04:48:06,718
argue.

6014
04:48:06,718 --> 04:48:08,718
Why are we slapping those folks in the

6015
04:48:08,718 --> 04:48:10,958
face that have supported us for years

6016
04:48:10,958 --> 04:48:22,150
and years under for now?

6017
04:48:22,160 --> 04:48:24,718
I know every every time you add

6018
04:48:24,718 --> 04:48:26,958
something something

6019
04:48:26,958 --> 04:48:29,600
has to go away. something has to decide

6020
04:48:29,600 --> 04:48:32,480
>> and and so I [clears throat] see this

6021
04:48:32,480 --> 04:48:34,240
you know some companies going to say

6022
04:48:34,240 --> 04:48:37,680
this is going to cost us another like 50

6023
04:48:37,680 --> 04:48:40,400
60,000 if it would be expanded and now

6024
04:48:40,400 --> 04:48:43,120
we're going to offset that well we're

6025
04:48:43,120 --> 04:48:45,920
going to take part of expression we're

6026
04:48:45,920 --> 04:48:48,718
going to take old Sam and his crew and

6027
04:48:48,718 --> 04:48:50,240
we're going to let them go because

6028
04:48:50,240 --> 04:48:52,240
that's about what it's costing us

6029
04:48:52,240 --> 04:48:55,440
letting them go so that's I didn't mean

6030
04:48:55,440 --> 04:48:59,750
you personally I just

6031
04:48:59,760 --> 04:49:02,400
But there's some there's also pitfalls

6032
04:49:02,400 --> 04:49:05,520
that look good.

6033
04:49:05,520 --> 04:49:07,360
>> Well, and that's why I think these

6034
04:49:07,360 --> 04:49:09,760
discussions are so important, being able

6035
04:49:09,760 --> 04:49:12,560
to ask those making the decisions on how

6036
04:49:12,560 --> 04:49:15,760
to spend the money and what what our

6037
04:49:15,760 --> 04:49:17,520
budgets really are. having those

6038
04:49:17,520 --> 04:49:19,280
discussions and being able to answer the

6039
04:49:19,280 --> 04:49:23,520
questions that the voters have

6040
04:49:23,520 --> 04:49:28,560
and have have the hard discussions about the money.

6041
04:49:28,560 --> 04:49:30,638
>> Yeah. Well, it is, you know,

6042
04:49:30,638 --> 04:49:32,878
governments, including this county

6043
04:49:32,878 --> 04:49:35,360
commission.

6044
04:49:35,360 --> 04:49:37,280
Always look at it as, well, if we get

6045
04:49:37,280 --> 04:49:38,958
this, we should be able to spend more. I

6046
04:49:38,958 --> 04:49:41,040
mean, that's what government does. They

6047
04:49:41,040 --> 04:49:42,638
take in money and they spend more than

6048
04:49:42,638 --> 04:49:45,520
what they can against people from the

6049
04:49:45,520 --> 04:49:48,480
government.

6050
04:49:48,480 --> 04:49:51,280
They're not designed to make a profit.

6051
04:49:51,280 --> 04:49:54,958
They're designed to help the citizenry.

6052
04:49:54,958 --> 04:49:59,360
make that happen by taxation.

6053
04:49:59,360 --> 04:50:01,360
You get too much of a tax base in the

6054
04:50:01,360 --> 04:50:04,480
city. Say, well, wait a minute.

6055
04:50:04,480 --> 04:50:10,948
That's all I'm seeing it happen.

6056
04:50:10,958 --> 04:50:13,600
I'm I'm through Mr. Chairman. Thank you

6057
04:50:13,600 --> 04:50:18,160
for patience. Good morning.

6058
04:50:18,160 --> 04:50:25,190
Uh is there anything else that um

6059
04:50:25,200 --> 04:50:26,638
» are there any other online

6060
04:50:26,638 --> 04:50:36,788
>> any online?

6061
04:50:36,798 --> 04:50:38,718
» No.

6062
04:50:38,718 --> 04:50:46,390
Thank you.

6063
04:50:46,400 --> 04:50:49,440
» Up next, we have

6064
04:50:49,440 --> 04:51:03,750
monthly reports.

6065
04:51:03,760 --> 04:51:07,040
Yeah, I got a motion to approve bond

6066
04:51:07,040 --> 04:51:22,948
genie for recreation. So directly

6067
04:51:22,958 --> 04:51:30,390
motion pass

6068
04:51:30,400 --> 04:51:32,638
comment

6069
04:51:32,638 --> 04:51:35,750
anyone

6070
04:51:35,760 --> 04:51:43,990
online any comments or questions

6071
04:51:44,000 --> 04:51:51,990
we sign or

6072
04:51:52,000 --> 04:51:59,270
» um I'm not sure probably.

6073
04:51:59,280 --> 04:52:01,680
Um you can go ahead and I don't know the

6074
04:52:01,680 --> 04:52:05,120
answer to that question.

6075
04:52:05,120 --> 04:52:08,002
I don't have another copy here.

6076
04:52:08,002 --> 04:52:11,922
>> [laughter]

6077
04:52:11,932 --> 04:52:16,550
[snorts]

6078
04:52:16,560 --> 04:52:26,332
» I presume that these are copies because

6079
04:52:26,342 --> 04:52:33,590
[laughter]

6080
04:52:33,600 --> 04:52:36,798
anything from Leila

6081
04:52:36,798 --> 04:52:40,240
online. Emily online.

6082
04:52:40,240 --> 04:52:43,120
Haley

6083
04:52:43,120 --> 04:53:04,550
online.

6084
04:53:04,560 --> 04:53:07,360
Okay. Got motility to approve three

6085
04:53:07,360 --> 04:53:09,360
alcoholic beverage sales committee. One

6086
04:53:09,360 --> 04:53:12,958
for the Eagle bar for

6087
04:53:12,958 --> 04:53:16,240
one for Boulder store,

6088
04:53:16,240 --> 04:53:19,760
one for the B store for skiing.

6089
04:53:19,760 --> 04:53:24,400
Okay, we have a motion on three. Sorry.

6090
04:53:24,400 --> 04:53:44,070
Discussion

6091
04:53:44,080 --> 04:53:49,030
bring up

6092
04:53:49,040 --> 04:53:53,190
Right,

6093
04:53:53,200 --> 04:53:56,638
Mr. Chairman. Uh, Clayton has an

6094
04:53:56,638 --> 04:53:58,638
agreement that I printed and handed him

6095
04:53:58,638 --> 04:54:00,958
to him this morning for the WW

6096
04:54:00,958 --> 04:54:03,520
scholarship agreement.

6097
04:54:03,520 --> 04:54:06,320
>> You didn't.

6098
04:54:06,320 --> 04:54:07,600
>> Thank you.

6099
04:54:07,600 --> 04:54:09,920
>> This is the agreement that we've been

6100
04:54:09,920 --> 04:54:13,120
talking about

6101
04:54:13,120 --> 04:54:19,190
since she was a child.

6102
04:54:19,200 --> 04:54:20,798
Anyway, this is the agreement that we've

6103
04:54:20,798 --> 04:54:23,440
been talking about for quite some time.

6104
04:54:23,440 --> 04:54:28,638
Um, we had sent a version of this to the

6105
04:54:28,638 --> 04:54:30,320
University of Wyoming and we never got

6106
04:54:30,320 --> 04:54:34,080
it back signed and then they talked

6107
04:54:34,080 --> 04:54:36,400
about some issues they had with the

6108
04:54:36,400 --> 04:54:38,878
language that we had in it. So, we've

6109
04:54:38,878 --> 04:54:40,638
been trying to amend this for a very

6110
04:54:40,638 --> 04:54:42,000
long time, but essentially this is the

6111
04:54:42,000 --> 04:54:44,080
one where we lowered the GPA to get that

6112
04:54:44,080 --> 04:54:46,000
funding that we had already sent to the

6113
04:54:46,000 --> 04:54:47,920
University of Wyoming to be able to be

6114
04:54:47,920 --> 04:54:50,240
used by more students.

6115
04:54:50,240 --> 04:54:53,760
So, Clayton has reviewed it and if you

6116
04:54:53,760 --> 04:54:56,718
guys are willing to sign that, we will

6117
04:54:56,718 --> 04:55:01,680
get that one under our belt.

6118
04:55:01,680 --> 04:55:02,958
what Sam's looking at.

6119
04:55:02,958 --> 04:55:05,280
>> That's what Sam's looking

6120
04:55:05,280 --> 04:55:06,400
qualifications.

6121
04:55:06,400 --> 04:55:09,200
>> It was to re reduce them to get that. We

6122
04:55:09,200 --> 04:55:11,760
had sent $25,000

6123
04:55:11,760 --> 04:55:13,520
a number of years ago and I can't tell

6124
04:55:13,520 --> 04:55:15,120
you now that we're this far into the

6125
04:55:15,120 --> 04:55:17,120
game how much it's left, but they were

6126
04:55:17,120 --> 04:55:19,040
not getting that distributed as quickly

6127
04:55:19,040 --> 04:55:22,320
as you had hoped. And so we decided to

6128
04:55:22,320 --> 04:55:24,718
lower that to the same agreement that we

6129
04:55:24,718 --> 04:55:27,680
had with the other schools that you're

6130
04:55:27,680 --> 04:55:31,760
funding on an invoicing basis.

6131
04:55:31,760 --> 04:55:33,920
And while you guys review that, I got

6132
04:55:33,920 --> 04:55:37,680
you your your this year's Sublet County

6133
04:55:37,680 --> 04:55:39,280
School District number one and nine

6134
04:55:39,280 --> 04:55:42,000
applicants for the UWS scholarship.

6135
04:55:42,000 --> 04:55:43,920
That's the one that you can award three

6136
04:55:43,920 --> 04:55:45,520
scholarships

6137
04:55:45,520 --> 04:55:50,878
and across the entire county and we will

6138
04:55:50,878 --> 04:55:52,480
have that on the agenda for the April

6139
04:55:52,480 --> 04:55:54,480
7th meeting. So, you've got some time to

6140
04:55:54,480 --> 04:55:56,480
look at that. There was an additional

6141
04:55:56,480 --> 04:55:59,280
one that came and I'll use air quotes

6142
04:55:59,280 --> 04:56:01,360
for those who can't see came late. It

6143
04:56:01,360 --> 04:56:03,760
was postmarked timely, but it was after

6144
04:56:03,760 --> 04:56:07,840
I had prepared your packets. So there was one more from SL County School

6145
04:56:07,840 --> 04:56:09,920
District number one that we received

6146
04:56:09,920 --> 04:56:11,680
that was added later. So be sure to

6147
04:56:11,680 --> 04:56:12,798
include that. It was in a separate

6148
04:56:12,798 --> 04:56:15,040
envelope. You have any questions about

6149
04:56:15,040 --> 04:56:18,560
that, let me know.

6150
04:56:18,560 --> 04:56:21,360
>> Vaness on that.

6151
04:56:21,360 --> 04:56:24,000
Is that three new one renewal? one

6152
04:56:24,000 --> 04:56:26,400
renewal and I have the renewals the

6153
04:56:26,400 --> 04:56:28,560
applications the renewal applications

6154
04:56:28,560 --> 04:56:31,040
are due to me on March 30th. So you'll

6155
04:56:31,040 --> 04:56:33,440
select that renewal at a later date and

6156
04:56:33,440 --> 04:56:35,760
those students who received it last year

6157
04:56:35,760 --> 04:56:37,600
have all been notified that they are

6158
04:56:37,600 --> 04:56:40,080
eligible to apply again. But only one of

6159
04:56:40,080 --> 04:56:42,080
those three that you awarded last year

6160
04:56:42,080 --> 04:56:43,840
is eligible for gruel.

6161
04:56:43,840 --> 04:56:46,320
>> And do we pick three and one alternate?

6162
04:56:46,320 --> 04:56:48,400
>> You do pick three and one alternate on

6163
04:56:48,400 --> 04:56:52,868
April 7th.

6164
04:56:52,878 --> 04:56:54,958
And if they don't qualify or have it

6165
04:56:54,958 --> 04:56:57,280
selected

6166
04:56:57,280 --> 04:57:00,390
university,

6167
04:57:00,400 --> 04:57:03,040
» you could

6168
04:57:03,040 --> 04:57:06,000
offer it to a student and then if they

6169
04:57:06,000 --> 04:57:07,840
don't qualify the alternate could come

6170
04:57:07,840 --> 04:57:10,240
in. We won't notify the alternate in

6171
04:57:10,240 --> 04:57:11,920
advance that they've been selected as an

6172
04:57:11,920 --> 04:57:14,000
alternate. We'll only notify if they

6173
04:57:14,000 --> 04:57:16,080
become and you could select more than

6174
04:57:16,080 --> 04:57:18,080
one alternate. For instance, if you

6175
04:57:18,080 --> 04:57:20,638
chose two out of three students who

6176
04:57:20,638 --> 04:57:23,440
hadn't selected their school or hadn't

6177
04:57:23,440 --> 04:57:25,120
um notified you in their letters at

6178
04:57:25,120 --> 04:57:26,798
least that they had selected a Wyoming

6179
04:57:26,798 --> 04:57:28,480
school and then they you later found out

6180
04:57:28,480 --> 04:57:30,080
that they didn't select a Wyoming

6181
04:57:30,080 --> 04:57:31,200
school, you could have a couple of

6182
04:57:31,200 --> 04:57:35,360
alternates that you then fall back on.

6183
04:57:35,360 --> 04:57:39,120
>> Is this funding state? Sorry. It is it

6184
04:57:39,120 --> 04:57:41,920
is managed by the University of Wyoming

6185
04:57:41,920 --> 04:57:46,628
or any um

6186
04:57:46,638 --> 04:57:48,878
community college or university. And I

6187
04:57:48,878 --> 04:57:51,040
specifically asked cuz one of the

6188
04:57:51,040 --> 04:57:52,480
questions that you'll see in your packet

6189
04:57:52,480 --> 04:57:56,080
was about someone who was going for a a

6190
04:57:56,080 --> 04:57:58,160
specific course word to one of the

6191
04:57:58,160 --> 04:58:00,240
colleges. And I asked if that was

6192
04:58:00,240 --> 04:58:01,600
acceptable and they said as long as

6193
04:58:01,600 --> 04:58:04,160
they're a full-time student at at one of

6194
04:58:04,160 --> 04:58:06,240
those colleges. So you have that listed.

6195
04:58:06,240 --> 04:58:07,760
You have that email in your pocket that

6196
04:58:07,760 --> 04:58:12,550
shows which schools are eligible.

6197
04:58:12,560 --> 04:58:15,440
» Motion to approve this.

6198
04:58:15,440 --> 04:58:17,120
>> I make a motion to approve the

6199
04:58:17,120 --> 04:58:18,878
University of Wyoming Foundation

6200
04:58:18,878 --> 04:58:29,510
scholarship agreement selection

6201
04:58:29,520 --> 04:58:32,638
questions in this regard.

6202
04:58:32,638 --> 04:58:37,030
Um all in favor

6203
04:58:37,040 --> 04:58:39,840
motion pass. Thank you. Could I ask

6204
04:58:39,840 --> 04:58:42,868
question?

6205
04:58:42,878 --> 04:58:47,760
» Yeah. What scholarship question

6206
04:58:47,760 --> 04:58:50,240
would have anything to do? Are we having

6207
04:58:50,240 --> 04:58:52,798
a vote on this? Is no. Okay. Great.

6208
04:58:52,798 --> 04:59:05,510
Thank you.

6209
04:59:05,520 --> 04:59:09,440
Is there a reason

6210
04:59:09,440 --> 04:59:12,400
that this commission cannot decide their

6211
04:59:12,400 --> 04:59:15,280
own scholarship funding? Is there a law

6212
04:59:15,280 --> 04:59:17,520
against that?

6213
04:59:17,520 --> 04:59:19,440
>> Mr. Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Vicky,

6214
04:59:19,440 --> 04:59:22,240
the issue in the past when we did have

6215
04:59:22,240 --> 04:59:25,200
our own design was that the board was

6216
04:59:25,200 --> 04:59:28,798
not basing it on financial need.

6217
04:59:28,798 --> 04:59:31,280
In the last body of the board, it was

6218
04:59:31,280 --> 04:59:33,040
decided that you guys didn't want to be

6219
04:59:33,040 --> 04:59:34,480
looking at financial information.

6220
04:59:34,480 --> 04:59:36,080
Perhaps that's changed now and that

6221
04:59:36,080 --> 04:59:39,680
could be a topic of discussion.

6222
04:59:39,680 --> 04:59:42,080
But the only way you can award county

6223
04:59:42,080 --> 04:59:44,638
tax dollars is for financial need.

6224
04:59:44,638 --> 04:59:46,718
Therefore, you would need to be

6225
04:59:46,718 --> 04:59:48,160
reviewing people's financial

6226
04:59:48,160 --> 04:59:50,320
information. And that's the reason that

6227
04:59:50,320 --> 04:59:52,798
the prior board of county commissioners

6228
04:59:52,798 --> 04:59:55,440
decided we would rather the institutions

6229
04:59:55,440 --> 04:59:59,440
themselves review that through the FAFSA

6230
04:59:59,440 --> 05:00:01,760
and then notify us of qualifying

6231
05:00:01,760 --> 05:00:03,280
students. That way, you're not looking

6232
05:00:03,280 --> 05:00:05,680
at your neighbors

6233
05:00:05,680 --> 05:00:08,718
income information. Thanks.

6234
05:00:08,718 --> 05:00:12,718
>> Well, the reason I asked kind of

6235
05:00:12,718 --> 05:00:15,120
question because

6236
05:00:15,120 --> 05:00:18,160
for whatever reason

6237
05:00:18,160 --> 05:00:29,190
for the last however many years,

6238
05:00:29,200 --> 05:00:31,600
» it's not mandated how many you award to

6239
05:00:31,600 --> 05:00:33,680
any school district. only mandated that

6240
05:00:33,680 --> 05:00:35,760
you only award three inside the county

6241
05:00:35,760 --> 05:00:39,360
boundaries. So you can and have in the

6242
05:00:39,360 --> 05:00:42,080
past switched it to and one. Sometimes

6243
05:00:42,080 --> 05:00:43,760
you've just wasted on the applications

6244
05:00:43,760 --> 05:00:45,920
themselves without regard to which

6245
05:00:45,920 --> 05:00:47,600
school district they are in.

6246
05:00:47,600 --> 05:00:49,280
Theoretically we have three high

6247
05:00:49,280 --> 05:00:52,240
schools. We have Skyline Find a High

6248
05:00:52,240 --> 05:00:55,760
School and Big Piney High School.

6249
05:00:55,760 --> 05:01:00,000
Skyline. If there are any applicants, I can't tell you the answer to this, but

6250
05:01:00,000 --> 05:01:01,440
if there are any applicants from

6251
05:01:01,440 --> 05:01:03,360
Skyline, they would be in the school

6252
05:01:03,360 --> 05:01:05,200
district number one packet that you

6253
05:01:05,200 --> 05:01:09,440
received. But should you want to

6254
05:01:09,440 --> 05:01:11,680
equally diversify it by high school, you

6255
05:01:11,680 --> 05:01:15,440
could one and one.

6256
05:01:15,440 --> 05:01:17,440
>> Well,

6257
05:01:17,440 --> 05:01:21,200
I listen to the package last night till

6258
05:01:21,200 --> 05:01:22,480
they tell one:00.

6259
05:01:22,480 --> 05:01:24,798
>> Oh, no. Did you think it was today?

6260
05:01:24,798 --> 05:01:28,080
I was thinking it was for today when I

6261
05:01:28,080 --> 05:01:30,638
looked at those because I know all those

6262
05:01:30,638 --> 05:01:34,798
kids. I know their family background.

6263
05:01:34,798 --> 05:01:39,110
I'm thinking, you know,

6264
05:01:39,120 --> 05:01:41,520
if there was a way

6265
05:01:41,520 --> 05:01:44,240
the county could do it if it's on a

6266
05:01:44,240 --> 05:01:46,958
financial need, there's probably what I

6267
05:01:46,958 --> 05:01:49,360
read, what I know, probably half a dozen

6268
05:01:49,360 --> 05:01:52,240
those kids. Some of them are going to

6269
05:01:52,240 --> 05:01:53,760
have scholarships. They don't know how

6270
05:01:53,760 --> 05:01:56,000
to spend it all

6271
05:01:56,000 --> 05:02:04,070
and their family take care of any of it.

6272
05:02:04,080 --> 05:02:08,868
I'd like to be able to

6273
05:02:08,878 --> 05:02:13,680
do it based on financial need.

6274
05:02:13,680 --> 05:02:15,760
It'd be pretty easy for me to pick two

6275
05:02:15,760 --> 05:02:18,320
or three for their school.

6276
05:02:18,320 --> 05:02:22,080
>> Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Vicky. Um, as

6277
05:02:22,080 --> 05:02:24,878
long as they're going to a Wyoming

6278
05:02:24,878 --> 05:02:28,080
college, you sort of do that. So, we

6279
05:02:28,080 --> 05:02:30,160
have advised all of the colleges in

6280
05:02:30,160 --> 05:02:33,680
Wyoming that, you know, in past budget

6281
05:02:33,680 --> 05:02:35,120
years, of course, it's up for discussion

6282
05:02:35,120 --> 05:02:37,120
each budget year, but that you have

6283
05:02:37,120 --> 05:02:39,520
funded a line item for scholarships and

6284
05:02:39,520 --> 05:02:42,160
that they can review their enrollment

6285
05:02:42,160 --> 05:02:44,320
based on the student has to have

6286
05:02:44,320 --> 05:02:46,000
graduated within the last five years

6287
05:02:46,000 --> 05:02:48,718
from a sublet county high school. They

6288
05:02:48,718 --> 05:02:50,638
have to maintain full-time enrollment.

6289
05:02:50,638 --> 05:02:54,160
They have to have, I think, a 2.5 GPA.

6290
05:02:54,160 --> 05:02:57,920
And I think that's it. And if they have

6291
05:02:57,920 --> 05:03:00,000
students that meet those criteria and

6292
05:03:00,000 --> 05:03:01,920
also meet the financial eligibility

6293
05:03:01,920 --> 05:03:05,280
requirement, then they invoice us and we

6294
05:03:05,280 --> 05:03:07,360
send a payment to that school for them.

6295
05:03:07,360 --> 05:03:10,240
So you aren't making that decision, but

6296
05:03:10,240 --> 05:03:12,560
it is occurring

6297
05:03:12,560 --> 05:03:16,480
as long as you find that in your budget.

6298
05:03:16,480 --> 05:03:18,480
>> Well, it's always it's always, you know,

6299
05:03:18,480 --> 05:03:20,798
we talk about we just heard that

6300
05:03:20,798 --> 05:03:22,958
discussion here today about keeping the

6301
05:03:22,958 --> 05:03:24,718
youth dear,

6302
05:03:24,718 --> 05:03:27,280
etc., etc.

6303
05:03:27,280 --> 05:03:29,760
And

6304
05:03:29,760 --> 05:03:33,280
if we can't invest in the youth

6305
05:03:33,280 --> 05:03:34,958
and we're going to spend millions and

6306
05:03:34,958 --> 05:03:38,718
millions of dollars on stuff, okay?

6307
05:03:38,718 --> 05:03:40,878
And we're looking at not very much

6308
05:03:40,878 --> 05:03:43,920
compared to sold to send some of these

6309
05:03:43,920 --> 05:03:47,110
kids

6310
05:03:47,120 --> 05:03:49,440
out there

6311
05:03:49,440 --> 05:03:52,000
seem like a great investment.

6312
05:03:52,000 --> 05:03:53,520
Whereas some of the other stuff we do

6313
05:03:53,520 --> 05:03:56,550
very

6314
05:03:56,560 --> 05:03:58,400
» So there's two different scholarships

6315
05:03:58,400 --> 05:04:00,958
we're talking about, right? So one

6316
05:04:00,958 --> 05:04:04,000
commissioner that's the state requires

6317
05:04:04,000 --> 05:04:05,200
us to do.

6318
05:04:05,200 --> 05:04:07,200
>> So in theory like what Janess said,

6319
05:04:07,200 --> 05:04:09,200
every one of those kids that that are on

6320
05:04:09,200 --> 05:04:11,200
that list, every one of them can still

6321
05:04:11,200 --> 05:04:13,040
get a scholarship from us. They just

6322
05:04:13,040 --> 05:04:15,600
have to apply through one of the Wyoming

6323
05:04:15,600 --> 05:04:17,680
schools. we already fund that school so

6324
05:04:17,680 --> 05:04:20,320
they can get so everybody on that list

6325
05:04:20,320 --> 05:04:22,480
in theory can go to University of

6326
05:04:22,480 --> 05:04:25,920
Wyoming and or any other nonprofit

6327
05:04:25,920 --> 05:04:28,638
school within the state of Wyoming and

6328
05:04:28,638 --> 05:04:30,560
get funding from us that we fund at

6329
05:04:30,560 --> 05:04:32,400
every budget here. So they can also get

6330
05:04:32,400 --> 05:04:36,080
a a a scholarship from us and we're

6331
05:04:36,080 --> 05:04:38,080
already still

6332
05:04:38,080 --> 05:04:41,760
um financing that line item like Janess

6333
05:04:41,760 --> 05:04:43,520
said they'll still have that

6334
05:04:43,520 --> 05:04:45,280
opportunity.

6335
05:04:45,280 --> 05:04:47,360
word is not making the decision. We we

6336
05:04:47,360 --> 05:04:50,000
made the decision that every one of them

6337
05:04:50,000 --> 05:04:51,680
can get a scholarship. You just have to

6338
05:04:51,680 --> 05:04:53,680
go to to one of the colleges within the

6339
05:04:53,680 --> 05:04:57,200
state of Wyoming and you have to apply.

6340
05:04:57,200 --> 05:04:58,080
Does that make sense?

6341
05:04:58,080 --> 05:05:00,080
>> Well, that that makes sense. But I I

6342
05:05:00,080 --> 05:05:02,000
I'll tell you what. I'll bet you I'll

6343
05:05:02,000 --> 05:05:03,680
bet you most of the kids that applied

6344
05:05:03,680 --> 05:05:08,230
for this scholarship

6345
05:05:08,240 --> 05:05:10,080
don't understand that.

6346
05:05:10,080 --> 05:05:12,320
>> Mr. We tried to tried to do a lot of

6347
05:05:12,320 --> 05:05:14,878
education with the schools and on that

6348
05:05:14,878 --> 05:05:17,360
domestic and talk to them and make sure

6349
05:05:17,360 --> 05:05:19,840
that we are telling these guidance

6350
05:05:19,840 --> 05:05:21,920
counselors that this is an option. This

6351
05:05:21,920 --> 05:05:24,000
is way we funded it. This is how we're

6352
05:05:24,000 --> 05:05:26,958
doing it. Please apply.

6353
05:05:26,958 --> 05:05:29,680
>> Mr. Chairman, Commissioner White, that

6354
05:05:29,680 --> 05:05:32,878
is absolutely correct. The difficulty is

6355
05:05:32,878 --> 05:05:34,400
they're applying for scholarships right

6356
05:05:34,400 --> 05:05:37,360
now, but you have not yet funded next

6357
05:05:37,360 --> 05:05:40,480
year's budget. So there's this time

6358
05:05:40,480 --> 05:05:44,160
frame in which I can't with assurityity

6359
05:05:44,160 --> 05:05:46,240
say the commissioners have funded this

6360
05:05:46,240 --> 05:05:48,000
budget line item tell your students to

6361
05:05:48,000 --> 05:05:50,400
go to their financial aid department and

6362
05:05:50,400 --> 05:05:53,200
school when they start because I don't

6363
05:05:53,200 --> 05:05:54,320
know that you're going to fund that

6364
05:05:54,320 --> 05:05:57,200
budget line item. And one more point of

6365
05:05:57,200 --> 05:05:58,958
clarification, Mr. Chairman, is that

6366
05:05:58,958 --> 05:06:02,480
this is not this does not what you'll be

6367
05:06:02,480 --> 05:06:04,638
deciding next week or next meeting does

6368
05:06:04,638 --> 05:06:08,080
not have any financial requirement. This

6369
05:06:08,080 --> 05:06:11,680
is whatever you your determining factors

6370
05:06:11,680 --> 05:06:14,240
are

6371
05:06:14,240 --> 05:06:18,000
according to statute. You know there are some statutory requirements.

6372
05:06:18,000 --> 05:06:21,680
>> So I think that correct me if I'm wrong.

6373
05:06:21,680 --> 05:06:24,240
So there's going to be a budget

6374
05:06:24,240 --> 05:06:26,480
transfer.

6375
05:06:26,480 --> 05:06:28,000
We do it for everything else.

6376
05:06:28,000 --> 05:06:29,680
>> Well, we already have a lot of money in

6377
05:06:29,680 --> 05:06:31,920
that. I I want to say we funded that

6378
05:06:31,920 --> 05:06:34,878
budget line item at about $45,000 for

6379
05:06:34,878 --> 05:06:37,840
this fiscal year and we I know we've

6380
05:06:37,840 --> 05:06:41,760
paid some to Casper College because they were the

6381
05:06:41,760 --> 05:06:43,840
ones who initially didn't do it but they

6382
05:06:43,840 --> 05:06:45,680
have

6383
05:06:45,680 --> 05:06:48,240
I can't tell you for sure which

6384
05:06:48,240 --> 05:06:50,638
organizations have contacted us and said

6385
05:06:50,638 --> 05:06:52,080
yes we have students that meet these

6386
05:06:52,080 --> 05:06:53,920
qualifications but it has been used

6387
05:06:53,920 --> 05:06:56,958
during this fiscal year by students.

6388
05:06:56,958 --> 05:06:58,718
There's still quite a bit left in that

6389
05:06:58,718 --> 05:07:00,638
budget. Why not?

6390
05:07:00,638 --> 05:07:03,440
>> If you wanted to, as we say, carry it

6391
05:07:03,440 --> 05:07:06,638
over to the next year, but but there's

6392
05:07:06,638 --> 05:07:09,120
been some issue with carryovers, too.

6393
05:07:09,120 --> 05:07:11,600
So, but yes, there is you could

6394
05:07:11,600 --> 05:07:15,440
theoretically not add any to

6395
05:07:15,440 --> 05:07:18,160
um the required mill levy because it

6396
05:07:18,160 --> 05:07:21,200
would still be in our cash available and

6397
05:07:21,200 --> 05:07:22,718
we could do it at the amount that's

6398
05:07:22,718 --> 05:07:24,320
remaining at the end of this year if you

6399
05:07:24,320 --> 05:07:26,000
wanted to do that. And then that

6400
05:07:26,000 --> 05:07:28,400
document that we missed on with the

6401
05:07:28,400 --> 05:07:30,638
partnership is we we said, "Hey,

6402
05:07:30,638 --> 05:07:33,920
University of Wyoming, you're not we we

6403
05:07:33,920 --> 05:07:36,240
don't feel like all our kids are having

6404
05:07:36,240 --> 05:07:38,560
access to that. We want to drop the

6405
05:07:38,560 --> 05:07:41,360
requirements that we put on it before

6406
05:07:41,360 --> 05:07:45,280
downloaded on GPA so more of some of our

6407
05:07:45,280 --> 05:07:47,680
current kids can have access to that. So

6408
05:07:47,680 --> 05:07:49,840
we just signed another document

6409
05:07:49,840 --> 05:07:53,120
encouraging more kids to be eligible for

6410
05:07:53,120 --> 05:07:55,520
that

6411
05:07:55,520 --> 05:07:58,080
reason that

6412
05:07:58,080 --> 05:08:02,400
makes no sense but

6413
05:08:02,400 --> 05:08:08,150
like say those things I think

6414
05:08:08,160 --> 05:08:10,080
there was three or four or five kids in

6415
05:08:10,080 --> 05:08:13,680
Pineville and for sure two or three down

6416
05:08:13,680 --> 05:08:18,868
here in my mind some of the backgrounds

6417
05:08:18,878 --> 05:08:22,560
and knowing the kids,

6418
05:08:22,560 --> 05:08:25,200
they're going to go to work if they have

6419
05:08:25,200 --> 05:08:27,520
that extra little bit of opportunity. At

6420
05:08:27,520 --> 05:08:30,638
least that's my take on it. No, I agree

6421
05:08:30,638 --> 05:08:33,280
with you. I think it it sucks that we

6422
05:08:33,280 --> 05:08:35,120
have to make that decision and we're

6423
05:08:35,120 --> 05:08:37,680
statutoily required only for three kids.

6424
05:08:37,680 --> 05:08:39,840
I think what we did in the background

6425
05:08:39,840 --> 05:08:43,680
with our system and our program

6426
05:08:43,680 --> 05:08:46,480
is way more beneficial to a lot more

6427
05:08:46,480 --> 05:08:49,520
students but statutoily require only

6428
05:08:49,520 --> 05:08:52,160
three kids but get the commissioner

6429
05:08:52,160 --> 05:08:55,200
scholarship is what they call it.

6430
05:08:55,200 --> 05:08:59,280
Yeah. No, I I can agree with that. I I

6431
05:08:59,280 --> 05:09:02,320
can't imagine them not understanding how

6432
05:09:02,320 --> 05:09:04,320
they could apply.

6433
05:09:04,320 --> 05:09:06,480
>> Mr. Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Vicky, if

6434
05:09:06,480 --> 05:09:08,480
they do have a financial aid, it's

6435
05:09:08,480 --> 05:09:09,920
almost certain that they're going to

6436
05:09:09,920 --> 05:09:12,080
their financial aid office and the

6437
05:09:12,080 --> 05:09:14,400
financial aid department should be

6438
05:09:14,400 --> 05:09:16,718
notifying them of this option.

6439
05:09:16,718 --> 05:09:21,360
>> And Mr. Chairman, Mr. Rickley, if I may,

6440
05:09:21,360 --> 05:09:23,920
the practice of the organization when

6441
05:09:23,920 --> 05:09:25,920
they are trying to do this is they are

6442
05:09:25,920 --> 05:09:28,160
filling their back filling in so they

6443
05:09:28,160 --> 05:09:30,160
know which students apply. They know

6444
05:09:30,160 --> 05:09:36,230
which students are from Sel County.

6445
05:09:36,240 --> 05:09:39,520
Great. Next item. Okay.

6446
05:09:39,520 --> 05:09:42,560
>> Um, next to the podium, Mr. Chairman, is

6447
05:09:42,560 --> 05:09:45,920
a box of dates of the county. You're

6448
05:09:45,920 --> 05:09:47,680
welcome to take some out of that box. I

6449
05:09:47,680 --> 05:09:50,480
have boxes for each of you if you want

6450
05:09:50,480 --> 05:09:52,000
to get them distributed. You had

6451
05:09:52,000 --> 05:09:54,000
mentioned distribution has been a

6452
05:09:54,000 --> 05:09:55,440
problem in the past and that you wanted

6453
05:09:55,440 --> 05:09:56,958
access to them so you can distribute

6454
05:09:56,958 --> 05:09:59,280
them how you see fit. They are in the

6455
05:09:59,280 --> 05:10:01,680
suburban and I believe the invoice was

6456
05:10:01,680 --> 05:10:04,400
in your AP today

6457
05:10:04,400 --> 05:10:07,280
>> and I think the Tony Del Ronda and you

6458
05:10:07,280 --> 05:10:09,520
and other department have contributed

6459
05:10:09,520 --> 05:10:22,230
did a tremendous job on it. Looks great.

6460
05:10:22,240 --> 05:10:26,878
» It was mostly done but thank you

6461
05:10:26,878 --> 05:10:29,120
for doing it.

6462
05:10:29,120 --> 05:10:31,200
Um, I wanted to let you know that we did

6463
05:10:31,200 --> 05:10:33,360
receive confirmation of the close out of

6464
05:10:33,360 --> 05:10:35,360
the state and local fiscal recovery

6465
05:10:35,360 --> 05:10:38,000
funds. That was basically COVID money as

6466
05:10:38,000 --> 05:10:41,200
most people say. Um, that close out is

6467
05:10:41,200 --> 05:10:44,240
complete. Obviously, if they want to

6468
05:10:44,240 --> 05:10:45,920
come back and with their books, they

6469
05:10:45,920 --> 05:10:48,000
can, but that is all available. I

6470
05:10:48,000 --> 05:10:50,320
notified our auditor and Jessica Rice

6471
05:10:50,320 --> 05:10:52,320
and Emily Harcini that that close out is

6472
05:10:52,320 --> 05:10:54,080
complete. And I have those filed in my

6473
05:10:54,080 --> 05:10:55,600
office should anybody want to look at

6474
05:10:55,600 --> 05:10:57,120
those.

6475
05:10:57,120 --> 05:10:59,840
and the auditor basically has all of it

6476
05:10:59,840 --> 05:11:01,680
as well. It's it's all sent to him every

6477
05:11:01,680 --> 05:11:03,200
year.

6478
05:11:03,200 --> 05:11:05,760
Um

6479
05:11:05,760 --> 05:11:07,520
on the

6480
05:11:07,520 --> 05:11:10,000
after AP is done today, they will close

6481
05:11:10,000 --> 05:11:14,080
the month or the last quarter. They'll

6482
05:11:14,080 --> 05:11:15,680
close the last quarter essentially by

6483
05:11:15,680 --> 05:11:18,000
closing the month. So we are back to the

6484
05:11:18,000 --> 05:11:20,638
time of on the next meeting we can do

6485
05:11:20,638 --> 05:11:24,000
those um

6486
05:11:24,000 --> 05:11:26,400
budget analysis things again that we

6487
05:11:26,400 --> 05:11:28,718
said we were going to skip a quarter on.

6488
05:11:28,718 --> 05:11:31,280
So if that is still the will of the

6489
05:11:31,280 --> 05:11:33,920
board we'll make that happen um probably

6490
05:11:33,920 --> 05:11:35,680
in the same order unless somebody wants

6491
05:11:35,680 --> 05:11:37,680
to change something. So on April 21st it

6492
05:11:37,680 --> 05:11:40,638
would be ice and public health.

6493
05:11:40,638 --> 05:11:42,560
Everybody okay with that or does anybody

6494
05:11:42,560 --> 05:11:44,480
want to change? and skip it. We get

6495
05:11:44,480 --> 05:11:47,280
through this procurement policy see

6496
05:11:47,280 --> 05:11:53,430
enough through that.

6497
05:11:53,440 --> 05:11:55,920
I think again the [clears throat] end of

6498
05:11:55,920 --> 05:11:58,878
the year I mean we're keeping track of

6499
05:11:58,878 --> 05:12:05,190
the big spenders pretty pretty tight.

6500
05:12:05,200 --> 05:12:07,440
It's a a big benefit that they come in

6501
05:12:07,440 --> 05:12:10,000
and explain that yeah we spent 60% of

6502
05:12:10,000 --> 05:12:14,480
our budget and we're 60% of the year. So

6503
05:12:14,480 --> 05:12:15,760
think we're going to have a lot more

6504
05:12:15,760 --> 05:12:18,878
harder conversations when it comes to

6505
05:12:18,878 --> 05:12:21,200
process.

6506
05:12:21,200 --> 05:12:44,550
All agree with that discussion.

6507
05:12:44,560 --> 05:12:48,000
» So what was the outcome? I'm sorry. Are

6508
05:12:48,000 --> 05:12:50,000
we doing it or are we not doing it?

6509
05:12:50,000 --> 05:12:54,160
Okay. All right. Um, I just gave you a

6510
05:12:54,160 --> 05:12:56,320
little rundown on the website committee

6511
05:12:56,320 --> 05:12:58,080
and what's happening there. If anybody

6512
05:12:58,080 --> 05:13:00,080
has any questions, you contact someone

6513
05:13:00,080 --> 05:13:02,320
on the website committee or ask me. I

6514
05:13:02,320 --> 05:13:05,120
may or may not know.

6515
05:13:05,120 --> 05:13:06,080
>> Other than that,

6516
05:13:06,080 --> 05:13:09,280
>> there was a question pertaining um I saw

6517
05:13:09,280 --> 05:13:11,920
from someone here to the employee portal

6518
05:13:11,920 --> 05:13:13,920
maybe.

6519
05:13:13,920 --> 05:13:16,400
>> Okay. So,

6520
05:13:16,400 --> 05:13:18,000
we would need to talk about what needs

6521
05:13:18,000 --> 05:13:20,480
to be included in the employee portal.

6522
05:13:20,480 --> 05:13:27,680
Um, I the understanding I had was that was to stop emails from being sent

6523
05:13:27,680 --> 05:13:30,320
out. So, I would suggest let's pull the

6524
05:13:30,320 --> 05:13:32,560
employees and see if they will regularly

6525
05:13:32,560 --> 05:13:34,480
go on there and be looking at it or if

6526
05:13:34,480 --> 05:13:36,320
it will mean we'll miss getting

6527
05:13:36,320 --> 05:13:38,000
information to employees because they're

6528
05:13:38,000 --> 05:13:40,560
having to go look for the information.

6529
05:13:40,560 --> 05:13:43,600
We sent an email claim saying that all

6530
05:13:43,600 --> 05:13:46,400
information is available on the employee

6531
05:13:46,400 --> 05:13:48,240
portal

6532
05:13:48,240 --> 05:13:51,600
uh notification will no longer be

6533
05:13:51,600 --> 05:13:54,638
emailed other than a

6534
05:13:54,638 --> 05:13:57,120
update notification

6535
05:13:57,120 --> 05:13:59,120
network

6536
05:13:59,120 --> 05:14:01,520
update notification. I'm sorry I was I

6537
05:14:01,520 --> 05:14:03,840
missed that part of the discussion. The

6538
05:14:03,840 --> 05:14:05,760
employee portal is changing what?

6539
05:14:05,760 --> 05:14:09,200
>> Okay. So on an employee portal versus

6540
05:14:09,200 --> 05:14:13,840
having email sent out from HR, if we put

6541
05:14:13,840 --> 05:14:16,240
all the information into the employee

6542
05:14:16,240 --> 05:14:19,280
online portal

6543
05:14:19,280 --> 05:14:21,760
and

6544
05:14:21,760 --> 05:14:23,440
then

6545
05:14:23,440 --> 05:14:27,040
update the new update

6546
05:14:27,040 --> 05:14:31,750
that would be sufficient.

6547
05:14:31,760 --> 05:14:34,240
What information are we talking about?

6548
05:14:34,240 --> 05:14:36,878
chain creates an employee portals where

6549
05:14:36,878 --> 05:14:39,680
they can go in and review their status

6550
05:14:39,680 --> 05:14:42,160
where they're at for hours. Updates to

6551
05:14:42,160 --> 05:14:46,320
HR policy are changes in the Fed law.

6552
05:14:46,320 --> 05:14:49,680
>> Mr. Chairman Clayton, um it came up when

6553
05:14:49,680 --> 05:14:51,920
something was sent that was required, I

6554
05:14:51,920 --> 05:14:53,680
believe, by the federal government for a

6555
05:14:53,680 --> 05:14:55,440
change to employment law or something. I

6556
05:14:55,440 --> 05:14:57,520
don't know. Andrea sent something out

6557
05:14:57,520 --> 05:15:01,120
recently and she was required to notify

6558
05:15:01,120 --> 05:15:03,520
every employee.

6559
05:15:03,520 --> 05:15:05,040
I think if we're as long as we're

6560
05:15:05,040 --> 05:15:06,718
meeting that off the top of my head,

6561
05:15:06,718 --> 05:15:08,958
then I would have to follow up with with

6562
05:15:08,958 --> 05:15:10,480
Andrew.

6563
05:15:10,480 --> 05:15:12,798
But as if it's requiring notification

6564
05:15:12,798 --> 05:15:14,480
and we're providing notification, even

6565
05:15:14,480 --> 05:15:16,958
if it directs to the portal or if it has

6566
05:15:16,958 --> 05:15:18,400
the information contained in the

6567
05:15:18,400 --> 05:15:20,480
notification, I would anticipate that

6568
05:15:20,480 --> 05:15:22,320
we're good, but I would won't look into

6569
05:15:22,320 --> 05:15:23,120
that.

6570
05:15:23,120 --> 05:15:25,680
>> And perhaps because of our community,

6571
05:15:25,680 --> 05:15:28,958
they're not mandated to that. A couple

6572
05:15:28,958 --> 05:15:30,958
of things in that regard.

6573
05:15:30,958 --> 05:15:32,560
I'll make a note to follow with Andrea

6574
05:15:32,560 --> 05:15:35,840
to talk to her about it. Thank you.

6575
05:15:35,840 --> 05:15:40,230
>> Um,

6576
05:15:40,240 --> 05:15:42,878
we had the forest the fourth and final

6577
05:15:42,878 --> 05:15:46,718
well not final but fourth of four forest

6578
05:15:46,718 --> 05:15:48,638
collaborative meetings and got through

6579
05:15:48,638 --> 05:15:50,638
the voting process. I had contacted Matt

6580
05:15:50,638 --> 05:15:52,958
because he went to the third meeting and

6581
05:15:52,958 --> 05:16:00,878
kind of had the rundown of what we were going to

6582
05:16:00,878 --> 05:16:02,560
be voting on. So I asked him in his

6583
05:16:02,560 --> 05:16:05,120
opinion. We got through that process. So

6584
05:16:05,120 --> 05:16:07,360
they are preparing a finalized document

6585
05:16:07,360 --> 05:16:10,878
for that. They are also planning to have

6586
05:16:10,878 --> 05:16:14,638
at least two meetings each year so that

6587
05:16:14,638 --> 05:16:18,560
everything is kept um up to date. The

6588
05:16:18,560 --> 05:16:20,718
hope is that some of the things will

6589
05:16:20,718 --> 05:16:22,320
help move projects forward and move

6590
05:16:22,320 --> 05:16:24,240
funding forward for certain.

6591
05:16:24,240 --> 05:16:26,080
>> Was there anything they voted on? Wasn't

6592
05:16:26,080 --> 05:16:26,718
it

6593
05:16:26,718 --> 05:16:29,280
>> there? Everything that you had seen was

6594
05:16:29,280 --> 05:16:35,280
voted on. There was one that had a a

6595
05:16:35,280 --> 05:16:37,760
person who voted five. In other words,

6596
05:16:37,760 --> 05:16:39,680
they could not live with that. So, that

6597
05:16:39,680 --> 05:16:41,360
one will have an explan a written

6598
05:16:41,360 --> 05:16:44,000
explanation as to why they couldn't live

6599
05:16:44,000 --> 05:16:47,360
with whatever the topic was. And that

6600
05:16:47,360 --> 05:16:51,600
will inform future meetings, future

6601
05:16:51,600 --> 05:16:54,638
meetings that result in hopefully action

6602
05:16:54,638 --> 05:16:55,600
on the ground.

6603
05:16:55,600 --> 05:16:57,440
>> So where did this collaborative get

6604
05:16:57,440 --> 05:16:59,360
started? Is this something Yoshi started

6605
05:16:59,360 --> 05:16:59,920
or that?

6606
05:16:59,920 --> 05:17:02,560
>> No, it it started in 2017. The first

6607
05:17:02,560 --> 05:17:04,638
collaborative was in 2017 and then again

6608
05:17:04,638 --> 05:17:06,560
in 2021.

6609
05:17:06,560 --> 05:17:10,560
And that is what has sort of shaped in

6610
05:17:10,560 --> 05:17:13,360
larger measure the forest services

6611
05:17:13,360 --> 05:17:16,000
10-year vegetation plan.

6612
05:17:16,000 --> 05:17:18,878
and the Forest Service was is in the

6613
05:17:18,878 --> 05:17:20,798
collaborative. So they are they too are

6614
05:17:20,798 --> 05:17:23,760
voting many times they voted a two which

6615
05:17:23,760 --> 05:17:25,840
essentially meant that they could live

6616
05:17:25,840 --> 05:17:28,480
with it but they couldn't wholeheartedly

6617
05:17:28,480 --> 05:17:30,480
support it because and their reasoning

6618
05:17:30,480 --> 05:17:34,480
was that they um don't envision having

6619
05:17:34,480 --> 05:17:36,878
the resources to do it.

6620
05:17:36,878 --> 05:17:39,600
>> Oh yeah. But the hope is that by making

6621
05:17:39,600 --> 05:17:43,600
it a priority and in a collaborative,

6622
05:17:43,600 --> 05:17:46,560
it'll help funnel funds to some of these

6623
05:17:46,560 --> 05:17:50,718
things. So, we'll see. But in your

6624
05:17:50,718 --> 05:17:54,080
report in the red, it talks about how LA

6625
05:17:54,080 --> 05:17:56,160
the 10-year veg plan has been

6626
05:17:56,160 --> 05:17:57,840
implemented last year, this year, and

6627
05:17:57,840 --> 05:18:00,080
moving forward. So, just as food for

6628
05:18:00,080 --> 05:18:03,600
thought, that veg plan meeting is

6629
05:18:03,600 --> 05:18:06,400
tomorrow. We're meeting in the

6630
05:18:06,400 --> 05:18:08,240
conservation district. It the meeting is

6631
05:18:08,240 --> 05:18:09,520
actually in Jackson, but we're doing it

6632
05:18:09,520 --> 05:18:11,360
remotely from the conservation district

6633
05:18:11,360 --> 05:18:25,030
building.

6634
05:18:25,040 --> 05:18:28,550
» Okay.

6635
05:18:28,560 --> 05:18:31,120
tomorrow.

6636
05:18:31,120 --> 05:18:33,040
Chairman, Commissioner Vicky, you had

6637
05:18:33,040 --> 05:18:35,680
asked about the gambling legislation. I

6638
05:18:35,680 --> 05:18:37,120
don't know for sure if it's going to hit

6639
05:18:37,120 --> 05:18:39,680
the priorities, but tomorrow at 4:00 is

6640
05:18:39,680 --> 05:18:42,160
your WCCA legislative recap. It's a

6641
05:18:42,160 --> 05:18:44,320
virtual meeting where Jeremiah will go

6642
05:18:44,320 --> 05:18:46,400
through all the legislation that passed

6643
05:18:46,400 --> 05:18:48,240
and how it may or may not impact

6644
05:18:48,240 --> 05:18:51,360
counties. So, you that would be a good

6645
05:18:51,360 --> 05:18:54,400
one to attend.

6646
05:18:54,400 --> 05:18:57,120
Um, and then finally, we received

6647
05:18:57,120 --> 05:18:59,760
information about the funding summit

6648
05:18:59,760 --> 05:19:02,240
that the state of Wyoming puts on a few

6649
05:19:02,240 --> 05:19:04,240
years ago. It was the federal funding

6650
05:19:04,240 --> 05:19:06,718
summit. They brought in federal agencies

6651
05:19:06,718 --> 05:19:09,600
and local agencies and taught grant

6652
05:19:09,600 --> 05:19:12,798
writing the first two days and then

6653
05:19:12,798 --> 05:19:15,440
talked specifically on the next two days

6654
05:19:15,440 --> 05:19:17,360
about what federal grants were

6655
05:19:17,360 --> 05:19:20,320
available. They've kind of pivoted off

6656
05:19:20,320 --> 05:19:22,080
that. It's not. It's just now the annual

6657
05:19:22,080 --> 05:19:24,240
Wyoming funding summit and they are

6658
05:19:24,240 --> 05:19:28,480
doing a 4-day panel 4-day session again

6659
05:19:28,480 --> 05:19:30,638
with interactive panels on days threes

6660
05:19:30,638 --> 05:19:32,480
and three and four, not just federal

6661
05:19:32,480 --> 05:19:35,280
agencies. Last year when I got notified

6662
05:19:35,280 --> 05:19:37,120
of this, I asked you if you wanted me to

6663
05:19:37,120 --> 05:19:40,480
notify if it was okay if I notified um

6664
05:19:40,480 --> 05:19:42,798
those departments that are applying for

6665
05:19:42,798 --> 05:19:44,560
grants and you authorized it last year.

6666
05:19:44,560 --> 05:19:47,440
I don't know that anybody went but this

6667
05:19:47,440 --> 05:19:50,400
is a free event other than the room

6668
05:19:50,400 --> 05:19:54,320
report. So would you like me to

6669
05:19:54,320 --> 05:19:57,120
distribute this information to for

6670
05:19:57,120 --> 05:19:58,798
instance

6671
05:19:58,798 --> 05:20:00,560
fire who does their own applications

6672
05:20:00,560 --> 05:20:03,440
public health um urban bridge does some

6673
05:20:03,440 --> 05:20:09,830
of their own grant applications

6674
05:20:09,840 --> 05:20:12,878
public health must be pretty good at it

6675
05:20:12,878 --> 05:20:14,638
be changing now we won't have anybody

6676
05:20:14,638 --> 05:20:15,360
there that's

6677
05:20:15,360 --> 05:20:20,240
>> and Josie is applying for grants now

6678
05:20:20,240 --> 05:20:22,638
>> and right actually in the process of

6679
05:20:22,638 --> 05:20:24,000
renewing that Colorado River

6680
05:20:24,000 --> 05:20:26,718
sustainability campaign extending and

6681
05:20:26,718 --> 05:20:29,840
renewing that hopefully.

6682
05:20:29,840 --> 05:20:32,798
So,

6683
05:20:32,798 --> 05:20:39,750
but

6684
05:20:39,760 --> 05:20:42,240
» yeah,

6685
05:20:42,240 --> 05:20:46,718
it's beneficial for us. Um, the smarter

6686
05:20:46,718 --> 05:20:48,560
our

6687
05:20:48,560 --> 05:20:52,638
um employees are and more information

6688
05:20:52,638 --> 05:20:54,160
that they know that there's possible

6689
05:20:54,160 --> 05:20:57,680
grants out there and the better. So I

6690
05:20:57,680 --> 05:21:00,480
think any training available this is a

6691
05:21:00,480 --> 05:21:07,036
good one should be all

6692
05:21:07,046 --> 05:21:11,190
[snorts]

6693
05:21:11,200 --> 05:21:13,440
» are there any other departments Mr.

6694
05:21:13,440 --> 05:21:14,560
Chairman that you want me to send it to

6695
05:21:14,560 --> 05:21:17,360
besides maybe those three

6696
05:21:17,360 --> 05:21:21,590
>> just send it out. Okay.

6697
05:21:21,600 --> 05:21:24,320
All right Mr. Chairman that's all I have

6698
05:21:24,320 --> 05:21:24,798
questions.

6699
05:21:24,798 --> 05:21:27,040
>> Okay. So I got one more thing. So the

6700
05:21:27,040 --> 05:21:30,878
street talk and you know how that can be

6701
05:21:30,878 --> 05:21:32,878
the street talk is like a word on the

6702
05:21:32,878 --> 05:21:35,210
street.

6703
05:21:35,210 --> 05:21:37,120
[laughter] The street talk happened that

6704
05:21:37,120 --> 05:21:40,240
the fourth service was going to start

6705
05:21:40,240 --> 05:21:42,000
reconstructing

6706
05:21:42,000 --> 05:21:44,080
the road.

6707
05:21:44,080 --> 05:21:46,638
Anybody else heard anything about that?

6708
05:21:46,638 --> 05:21:50,560
>> They thought about it for 10 years.

6709
05:21:50,560 --> 05:21:52,560
>> They're going up over Union Pass.

6710
05:21:52,560 --> 05:21:56,798
>> This is this is B. They're gonna go.

6711
05:21:56,798 --> 05:21:58,160
Last I heard they only had no

6712
05:21:58,160 --> 05:22:02,390
funding,000.

6713
05:22:02,400 --> 05:22:05,040
» I think they got more fun though.

6714
05:22:05,040 --> 05:22:07,520
They're going to be part of Union Pass

6715
05:22:07,520 --> 05:22:09,280
and they're going to go from the bridge

6716
05:22:09,280 --> 05:22:13,200
13 miles to the green.

6717
05:22:13,200 --> 05:22:14,240
>> I'll be shocked.

6718
05:22:14,240 --> 05:22:16,798
>> Oh, but

6719
05:22:16,798 --> 05:22:18,718
I I think it's definitely going to

6720
05:22:18,718 --> 05:22:22,310
happen.

6721
05:22:22,320 --> 05:22:25,200
Yeah, we shall do

6722
05:22:25,200 --> 05:22:29,350
people up there.

6723
05:22:29,360 --> 05:22:30,638
Have you heard of it's going to be

6724
05:22:30,638 --> 05:22:32,798
schedule A or they going to involve us

6725
05:22:32,798 --> 05:22:37,510
or they involve some fetal

6726
05:22:37,520 --> 05:22:38,320
federal route

6727
05:22:38,320 --> 05:22:41,120
>> and two two outlets in Jackson most of

6728
05:22:41,120 --> 05:22:44,240
the works.

6729
05:22:44,240 --> 05:22:46,878
>> Mr. Chairman, I believe did Kate talk to

6730
05:22:46,878 --> 05:22:48,480
you about some kind of a schedule A

6731
05:22:48,480 --> 05:22:50,878
project? He said that there was a

6732
05:22:50,878 --> 05:22:52,718
possibility that they had some schedule

6733
05:22:52,718 --> 05:22:56,718
a project for um

6734
05:22:56,718 --> 05:22:59,360
by

6735
05:22:59,360 --> 05:23:00,638
>> is it Temple

6736
05:23:00,638 --> 05:23:01,520
>> Temple Creek.

6737
05:23:01,520 --> 05:23:04,878
>> Yeah. Some some stuff by family and

6738
05:23:04,878 --> 05:23:08,480
adviser to have an engineer would like

6739
05:23:08,480 --> 05:23:11,600
to have in the past and see they can put

6740
05:23:11,600 --> 05:23:16,240
that project together for us

6741
05:23:16,240 --> 05:23:21,830
or not.

6742
05:23:21,840 --> 05:23:27,270
which I remember schedule.

6743
05:23:27,280 --> 05:23:29,440
We're just not tying the federal

6744
05:23:29,440 --> 05:23:39,030
restrictions on those.

6745
05:23:39,040 --> 05:23:40,718
» Mr. Chairman, would the procurement

6746
05:23:40,718 --> 05:23:45,830
policy affect that? Would we be

6747
05:23:45,840 --> 05:23:48,320
we should keep that in mind?

6748
05:23:48,320 --> 05:23:50,320
I think we'd be trying our own hands on

6749
05:23:50,320 --> 05:23:51,760
something like that to get some of that

6750
05:23:51,760 --> 05:23:59,510
work done.

6751
05:23:59,520 --> 05:24:02,798
» Understand the question. I'm sorry.

6752
05:24:02,798 --> 05:24:05,360
>> Mr. Chairman, I was just asking if the

6753
05:24:05,360 --> 05:24:07,120
potential adoption if we were to adopt

6754
05:24:07,120 --> 05:24:10,080
the procurement plan or pro policy that

6755
05:24:10,080 --> 05:24:12,798
was presented today,

6756
05:24:12,798 --> 05:24:14,320
part of the advantage for the Forest

6757
05:24:14,320 --> 05:24:16,718
Service of the county engaging in these

6758
05:24:16,718 --> 05:24:19,200
schedule A's is we don't have the same

6759
05:24:19,200 --> 05:24:21,760
contracting requirements that they have

6760
05:24:21,760 --> 05:24:23,600
and I I don't think we would be limiting

6761
05:24:23,600 --> 05:24:26,240
ourselves extensively, but would we be

6762
05:24:26,240 --> 05:24:28,400
limiting our ability to engage in those

6763
05:24:28,400 --> 05:24:30,638
with our own procurement policy was the

6764
05:24:30,638 --> 05:24:34,080
question. I don't see any of selecting a

6765
05:24:34,080 --> 05:24:37,920
contractor to do the policy.

6766
05:24:37,920 --> 05:24:41,280
>> Do we se do we select contractors

6767
05:24:41,280 --> 05:24:44,958
for that fam or do we do we do the work?

6768
05:24:44,958 --> 05:24:46,798
I don't know the answer. I guess yeah

6769
05:24:46,798 --> 05:24:48,638
like Skyline we did select contractors

6770
05:24:48,638 --> 05:24:55,590
for it

6771
05:24:55,600 --> 05:24:58,480
lower

6772
05:24:58,480 --> 05:25:02,070
engineer

6773
05:25:02,080 --> 05:25:04,080
came back

6774
05:25:04,080 --> 05:25:06,560
>> the 1000

6775
05:25:06,560 --> 05:25:09,990
million

6776
05:25:10,000 --> 05:25:18,070
9 million changes

6777
05:25:18,080 --> 05:25:18,958
That

6778
05:25:18,958 --> 05:25:19,920
>> that's it for me.

6779
05:25:19,920 --> 05:25:22,480
>> Any questions for Janess

6780
05:25:22,480 --> 05:25:25,440
online? Questions?

6781
05:25:25,440 --> 05:25:26,240
>> No hands.

6782
05:25:26,240 --> 05:25:28,400
>> I have an update from Katie Rulan who

6783
05:25:28,400 --> 05:25:31,120
will be doing a presentation on the 23rd

6784
05:25:31,120 --> 05:25:35,120
of this month at the UK's

6785
05:25:35,120 --> 05:25:37,840
boardroom I think is where it's at. uh

6786
05:25:37,840 --> 05:25:42,160
pertaining to the uh economic

6787
05:25:42,160 --> 05:25:45,280
and future planning of the envelope

6788
05:25:45,280 --> 05:25:50,000
migration route along with um town sweet

6789
05:25:50,000 --> 05:26:04,788
water helicopter

6790
05:26:04,798 --> 05:26:06,400
or not

6791
05:26:06,400 --> 05:26:09,040
you cancelled the one that went to his

6792
05:26:09,040 --> 05:26:12,320
desk earlier and then he created a new

6793
05:26:12,320 --> 05:26:16,400
commission to uh create a new one.

6794
05:26:16,400 --> 05:26:21,990
We created a task force

6795
05:26:22,000 --> 05:26:24,958
of the task force that's on it. I

6796
05:26:24,958 --> 05:26:28,080
understand that they asking for the

6797
05:26:28,080 --> 05:26:31,920
counties to do a presentation on what

6798
05:26:31,920 --> 05:26:33,680
the potential

6799
05:26:33,680 --> 05:26:38,320
um changes with the analog corridor and

6800
05:26:38,320 --> 05:26:42,320
migration corridor would impact our

6801
05:26:42,320 --> 05:26:45,760
current land use policy. Right. Am I

6802
05:26:45,760 --> 05:26:48,240
right?

6803
05:26:48,240 --> 05:26:52,240
But they agreed to the last one is only

6804
05:26:52,240 --> 05:26:55,840
public not supposed to be private.

6805
05:26:55,840 --> 05:26:57,200
>> So that's be changed.

6806
05:26:57,200 --> 05:27:00,240
>> Correct. No, but the discussion does

6807
05:27:00,240 --> 05:27:06,160
have to in encompass private land. Um

6808
05:27:06,160 --> 05:27:09,360
it's saying

6809
05:27:09,360 --> 05:27:12,798
when it comes to the development of that

6810
05:27:12,798 --> 05:27:14,878
how do you feed the developer and what

6811
05:27:14,878 --> 05:27:18,240
are the what's the

6812
05:27:18,240 --> 05:27:23,670
impact on that

6813
05:27:23,680 --> 05:27:29,520
but it deals mostly because voluntary

6814
05:27:29,520 --> 05:27:32,080
it can't be mandated to do anything

6815
05:27:32,080 --> 05:27:34,240
other than say this is what we're

6816
05:27:34,240 --> 05:27:36,958
looking at kind of what we'd like to

6817
05:27:36,958 --> 05:27:39,040
have in effect and then it goes to

6818
05:27:39,040 --> 05:27:41,440
public federal land and that's where

6819
05:27:41,440 --> 05:27:45,190
they'll have the

6820
05:27:45,200 --> 05:27:50,160
basic rules and then they

6821
05:27:50,160 --> 05:27:52,240
bottlenecks where it comes to the

6822
05:27:52,240 --> 05:27:54,878
crossing the roads and

6823
05:27:54,878 --> 05:27:57,910
I

6824
05:27:57,920 --> 05:28:00,798
my thoughts I don't like the word

6825
05:28:00,798 --> 05:28:04,000
volunteer put in there Right. So then

6826
05:28:04,000 --> 05:28:08,080
you you take the mu deer um migration

6827
05:28:08,080 --> 05:28:11,200
um executive order and I think it was

6828
05:28:11,200 --> 05:28:14,240
bullet point 4 says nothing in this

6829
05:28:14,240 --> 05:28:17,200
order shall pertain to private plan. As

6830
05:28:17,200 --> 05:28:19,120
soon as you start adding that word

6831
05:28:19,120 --> 05:28:21,280
voluntary, you're going to have some of

6832
05:28:21,280 --> 05:28:23,360
our constituents that are going to read

6833
05:28:23,360 --> 05:28:27,120
that and publicly shame people and come

6834
05:28:27,120 --> 05:28:29,120
before us on what decision that we're

6835
05:28:29,120 --> 05:28:30,000
going [clears throat] to be making and

6836
05:28:30,000 --> 05:28:33,040
say, "Well, they should volunteer for it

6837
05:28:33,040 --> 05:28:35,440
because so and so down here volunteer

6838
05:28:35,440 --> 05:28:36,958
for it." And if they don't, that should

6839
05:28:36,958 --> 05:28:39,920
be a reason for you guys to deny this

6840
05:28:39,920 --> 05:28:46,320
rather than art or um policy and or

6841
05:28:46,320 --> 05:28:48,718
black and white rules that say, "Hey,

6842
05:28:48,718 --> 05:28:51,920
this pertains here anytime. I don't like

6843
05:28:51,920 --> 05:28:55,760
that in voluntary." That's my thoughts.

6844
05:28:55,760 --> 05:28:57,520
Excellent point.

6845
05:28:57,520 --> 05:29:01,760
Then of course they have the uh

6846
05:29:01,760 --> 05:29:03,520
fin

6847
05:29:03,520 --> 05:29:08,788
coming up the next meeting

6848
05:29:08,798 --> 05:29:09,920
that will get to the rest of the

6849
05:29:09,920 --> 05:29:12,718
conversation.

6850
05:29:12,718 --> 05:29:16,718
I know the first go round before the

6851
05:29:16,718 --> 05:29:18,160
governor said, "Look, I'm gonna form

6852
05:29:18,160 --> 05:29:20,558
this committee and put it out to this

6853
05:29:20,558 --> 05:29:22,958
committee to advise me on where we're

6854
05:29:22,958 --> 05:29:25,120
going to go with this." Said that

6855
05:29:25,120 --> 05:29:28,400
nothing in that would pertain to

6856
05:29:28,400 --> 05:29:30,558
existing development that's already

6857
05:29:30,558 --> 05:29:33,040
happened. It would only pertain to new

6858
05:29:33,040 --> 05:29:36,638
development outside of whatever fold or

6859
05:29:36,638 --> 05:29:38,718
sideboards that they put into that

6860
05:29:38,718 --> 05:29:41,200
development. For example, I think game

6861
05:29:41,200 --> 05:29:45,200
and fish um several times had said

6862
05:29:45,200 --> 05:29:48,000
um the upper boat dock or the lower boat

6863
05:29:48,000 --> 05:29:50,878
dock at Fremont Lake is a is a very big

6864
05:29:50,878 --> 05:29:53,600
tension point. That executive order

6865
05:29:53,600 --> 05:29:55,200
would say that there could never be any

6866
05:29:55,200 --> 05:29:57,920
kind of development there.

6867
05:29:57,920 --> 05:30:00,558
But there could be development within

6868
05:30:00,558 --> 05:30:02,878
the boundaries of the Pine Deline. As

6869
05:30:02,878 --> 05:30:04,718
soon as you step outside of the Pine

6870
05:30:04,718 --> 05:30:08,000
Deline, for example, and or anything we

6871
05:30:08,000 --> 05:30:09,920
got going through the south with blue

6872
05:30:09,920 --> 05:30:12,160
spruce or anything else, there would

6873
05:30:12,160 --> 05:30:14,558
have to be some discussions on what that

6874
05:30:14,558 --> 05:30:20,310
would pertain to the animal migration.

6875
05:30:20,320 --> 05:30:21,760
Something we definitely need to keep an

6876
05:30:21,760 --> 05:30:22,000
eye on.

6877
05:30:22,000 --> 05:30:24,080
>> I don't think our planning is personally

6878
05:30:24,080 --> 05:30:26,480
needs to be made to this. Well, no,

6879
05:30:26,480 --> 05:30:28,558
they're just doing the presentation as

6880
05:30:28,558 --> 05:30:31,360
far as how it ties to our comprehensive

6881
05:30:31,360 --> 05:30:32,638
plan.

6882
05:30:32,638 --> 05:30:38,558
>> So, our chairman volunteered himself to be leading this, but he's he's going

6883
05:30:38,558 --> 05:30:40,958
to do the presentation.

6884
05:30:40,958 --> 05:30:43,760
>> It's being led by

6885
05:30:43,760 --> 05:30:45,920
uh Commissioner Robert.

6886
05:30:45,920 --> 05:30:47,840
>> Yeah, Rob Slaughter is the chairman of

6887
05:30:47,840 --> 05:30:49,600
the But you're you're the one

6888
05:30:49,600 --> 05:30:51,120
representing

6889
05:30:51,120 --> 05:30:53,920
Busby. Yeah. And our our thing. So, good

6890
05:30:53,920 --> 05:30:57,198
luck.

6891
05:30:57,208 --> 05:30:58,000
» [laughter]

6892
05:30:58,000 --> 05:30:58,798
>> Thanks,

6893
05:30:58,798 --> 05:31:01,440
>> Mr. Chairman. Does it also I'm curious

6894
05:31:01,440 --> 05:31:04,080
on the private land on this new plan, if

6895
05:31:04,080 --> 05:31:05,440
they had to pull a state permit for

6896
05:31:05,440 --> 05:31:07,520
whatever reason, are they suddenly

6897
05:31:07,520 --> 05:31:10,320
subject to

6898
05:31:10,320 --> 05:31:12,480
regulations for

6899
05:31:12,480 --> 05:31:16,070
>> like

6900
05:31:16,080 --> 05:31:17,440
I don't know what the answer is on this

6901
05:31:17,440 --> 05:31:19,840
one.

6902
05:31:19,840 --> 05:31:24,548
We're not that far.

6903
05:31:24,558 --> 05:31:26,320
Well, that's a great question, right?

6904
05:31:26,320 --> 05:31:28,000
Because with the sage grass, as soon as

6905
05:31:28,000 --> 05:31:30,878
you have to any private development,

6906
05:31:30,878 --> 05:31:32,480
soon as they have to pull a state

6907
05:31:32,480 --> 05:31:35,360
permit, they're subject to buying

6908
05:31:35,360 --> 05:31:39,840
credits with any disturbed uh safe grass

6909
05:31:39,840 --> 05:31:42,638
habitat, which is a whole new ballax

6910
05:31:42,638 --> 05:31:46,638
because the pathfinder sold out and

6911
05:31:46,638 --> 05:31:48,480
they're the only ones within the state

6912
05:31:48,480 --> 05:31:51,120
of Wyoming that is a registered bank for

6913
05:31:51,120 --> 05:31:52,638
those credits.

6914
05:31:52,638 --> 05:31:54,558
and don't know how that's going to work

6915
05:31:54,558 --> 05:31:56,958
out with the new owners and how much

6916
05:31:56,958 --> 05:31:59,840
land is dedicated on that pathfinder

6917
05:31:59,840 --> 05:32:02,400
that's not already spoken for or tied up

6918
05:32:02,400 --> 05:32:06,958
through some sort of credit process.

6919
05:32:06,958 --> 05:32:09,840
some great questions and I've asked

6920
05:32:09,840 --> 05:32:12,798
several king and fish people have yet to

6921
05:32:12,798 --> 05:32:15,200
give an answer where that banking system

6922
05:32:15,200 --> 05:32:16,638
is going to go and how it's going to

6923
05:32:16,638 --> 05:32:19,920
work with other changes and anybody

6924
05:32:19,920 --> 05:32:22,798
else's mandated

6925
05:32:22,798 --> 05:32:24,878
>> well then there's also the fally

6926
05:32:24,878 --> 05:32:31,270
mandated revising

6927
05:32:31,280 --> 05:32:34,080
does a good enough job on protecting s

6928
05:32:34,080 --> 05:32:50,070
so there's als Start from

6929
05:32:50,080 --> 05:32:52,000
» Hey, we're at the end of the meeting. Is

6930
05:32:52,000 --> 05:32:53,920
there any public comment or question

6931
05:32:53,920 --> 05:32:56,878
from online?

6932
05:32:56,878 --> 05:33:01,670
>> No hands.

6933
05:33:01,680 --> 05:33:03,760
Oh business.

6934
05:33:03,760 --> 05:33:07,040
We got that.

6935
05:33:07,040 --> 05:33:10,160
Yeah. So whole business for you, please.

6936
05:33:10,160 --> 05:33:13,450
I've got old business. [clears throat]

6937
05:33:13,450 --> 05:33:15,440
[laughter]

6938
05:33:15,440 --> 05:33:18,160
So

6939
05:33:18,160 --> 05:33:21,040
I think well it is completely scrapped

6940
05:33:21,040 --> 05:33:23,440
with

6941
05:33:23,440 --> 05:33:26,160
the county involvement or anything at

6942
05:33:26,160 --> 05:33:27,680
this stage of the game. My father

6943
05:33:27,680 --> 05:33:31,920
grabbed it completely with it till they

6944
05:33:31,920 --> 05:33:34,480
carried the existing river. He held the

6945
05:33:34,480 --> 05:33:36,638
fence track where it was originally fine

6946
05:33:36,638 --> 05:33:41,990
and not temporary

6947
05:33:42,000 --> 05:33:45,040
showed up like that.

6948
05:33:45,040 --> 05:33:50,948
I see that thing. I see that thing

6949
05:33:50,958 --> 05:33:53,600
going to be two or three.

6950
05:33:53,600 --> 05:33:55,920
It's going to be another who knows how

6951
05:33:55,920 --> 05:33:59,280
much money

6952
05:33:59,280 --> 05:34:00,958
that money that we're going to save by

6953
05:34:00,958 --> 05:34:03,440
not doing it. Put it someplace else if

6954
05:34:03,440 --> 05:34:09,510
we

6955
05:34:09,520 --> 05:34:11,360
from our last meeting. He said he had to

6956
05:34:11,360 --> 05:34:13,680
rebuild a portion of it. He could hand

6957
05:34:13,680 --> 05:34:15,360
that his own budget,

6958
05:34:15,360 --> 05:34:17,120
>> but he doesn't have to build. We'll talk

6959
05:34:17,120 --> 05:34:19,120
to people down there. We'll talk to the

6960
05:34:19,120 --> 05:34:21,360
people down there back that used all the

6961
05:34:21,360 --> 05:34:23,920
time. Once the willows were gone,

6962
05:34:23,920 --> 05:34:25,840
>> right, that's that's the word I got.

6963
05:34:25,840 --> 05:34:28,320
>> That took that took care of the issues.

6964
05:34:28,320 --> 05:34:32,050
>> Susie was upset about it. We went in

6965
05:34:32,050 --> 05:34:35,040
[clears throat] her last week that

6966
05:34:35,040 --> 05:34:37,680
wasn't going to be done,

6967
05:34:37,680 --> 05:34:40,240
but it is

6968
05:34:40,240 --> 05:34:43,590
not

6969
05:34:43,600 --> 05:34:45,990
folks.

6970
05:34:46,000 --> 05:34:51,190
Dr.

6971
05:34:51,200 --> 05:34:54,240
I say no. I I think that you know the

6972
05:34:54,240 --> 05:34:57,360
people that use it down there.

6973
05:34:57,360 --> 05:35:00,558
I now tell me most of the time except in

6974
05:35:00,558 --> 05:35:03,520
summer travel four or five cars a day

6975
05:35:03,520 --> 05:35:05,760
maybe

6976
05:35:05,760 --> 05:35:08,718
pick up that season

6977
05:35:08,718 --> 05:35:10,320
but

6978
05:35:10,320 --> 05:35:12,400
I don't know that that's my take on it.

6979
05:35:12,400 --> 05:35:14,958
I just I just know I talked to a couple

6980
05:35:14,958 --> 05:35:17,760
of the guys said in fact they said great

6981
05:35:17,760 --> 05:35:19,760
job of not doing that. We don't need it

6982
05:35:19,760 --> 05:35:23,200
there. Doesn't need it.

6983
05:35:23,200 --> 05:35:28,390
Does anyone want to decide

6984
05:35:28,400 --> 05:35:31,040
bring it up at the next commissioner's

6985
05:35:31,040 --> 05:35:36,070
meeting and make determination?

6986
05:35:36,080 --> 05:35:42,788
He may already be well that could happen

6987
05:35:42,798 --> 05:35:46,240
that country down there

6988
05:35:46,240 --> 05:35:49,590
snow

6989
05:35:49,600 --> 05:35:52,000
it's prime to go get it done then we're

6990
05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:59,910
going to be talking

6991
05:35:59,920 --> 05:36:02,400
like building identif is working on it

6992
05:36:02,400 --> 05:36:06,958
and bring it up to the next meeting

6993
05:36:06,958 --> 05:36:13,270
just on the agenda.

6994
05:36:13,280 --> 05:36:15,360
I think we'll have enough information

6995
05:36:15,360 --> 05:36:21,430
today.

6996
05:36:21,440 --> 05:36:23,360
I'm not part of the project. Never was I

6997
05:36:23,360 --> 05:36:25,840
mean been on the road a lot. It's wide

6998
05:36:25,840 --> 05:36:28,638
open as this. I just think we've got

6999
05:36:28,638 --> 05:36:32,548
other roads in this county.

7000
05:36:32,558 --> 05:36:34,958
» We've heard about

7001
05:36:34,958 --> 05:36:40,948
the county go

7002
05:36:40,958 --> 05:36:44,638
at that point. That's all I

7003
05:36:44,638 --> 05:36:48,240
thought. My thoughts is

7004
05:36:48,240 --> 05:36:52,230
I'd like

7005
05:36:52,240 --> 05:36:54,878
the bill for it. Um said the engineering

7006
05:36:54,878 --> 05:36:58,558
was already done. We're we're already

7007
05:36:58,558 --> 05:37:01,200
paying those employees. So I don't know

7008
05:37:01,200 --> 05:37:05,280
like that really thought

7009
05:37:05,280 --> 05:37:06,958
that's engineering done. We've been

7010
05:37:06,958 --> 05:37:11,830
given a lot of

7011
05:37:11,840 --> 05:37:13,520
I just don't think I just don't blame

7012
05:37:13,520 --> 05:37:15,280
them doing that. This country is going

7013
05:37:15,280 --> 05:37:17,280
to open up and you're going to see Billy

7014
05:37:17,280 --> 05:37:18,798
have a lot of stuff.

7015
05:37:18,798 --> 05:37:20,558
>> So if you be kind enough to contact

7016
05:37:20,558 --> 05:37:24,320
Billy do that be and then pardon

7017
05:37:24,320 --> 05:37:26,160
>> I will have to be kind. I should call

7018
05:37:26,160 --> 05:37:28,160
him out and tell him we're going to

7019
05:37:28,160 --> 05:37:30,000
discuss it next meeting.

7020
05:37:30,000 --> 05:37:33,360
>> Okay. Please get started now.

7021
05:37:33,360 --> 05:37:35,280
This is what we're saying. Would you

7022
05:37:35,280 --> 05:37:38,718
that next year? What other business do

7023
05:37:38,718 --> 05:37:43,270
you have?

7024
05:37:43,280 --> 05:37:45,600
Any other

7025
05:37:45,600 --> 05:37:47,440
great

7026
05:37:47,440 --> 05:37:51,840
to got anything?

7027
05:37:51,840 --> 05:37:53,440
>> Thanks for coming.

7028
05:37:53,440 --> 05:37:55,760
>> So long since I saw you recognize why

7029
05:37:55,760 --> 05:37:58,160
I'm here tonight. I haven't been a

7030
05:37:58,160 --> 05:38:01,040
chance to come by and sit in on this and

7031
05:38:01,040 --> 05:38:02,958
we did have about 15 people the other

7032
05:38:02,958 --> 05:38:04,878
night in ourformational

7033
05:38:04,878 --> 05:38:07,600
meeting about any and so I just thought

7034
05:38:07,600 --> 05:38:09,280
I'd stop in case there was any of those

7035
05:38:09,280 --> 05:38:11,760
people come back. some a pretty good

7036
05:38:11,760 --> 05:38:13,920
crowd that just and really good

7037
05:38:13,920 --> 05:38:14,480
discussion

7038
05:38:14,480 --> 05:38:17,600
>> and what was their feedback on the

7039
05:38:17,600 --> 05:38:20,558
>> I think there's some of each

7040
05:38:20,558 --> 05:38:22,878
like Sandy said the chair lady said I

7041
05:38:22,878 --> 05:38:24,878
think there was some some good feedback

7042
05:38:24,878 --> 05:38:28,638
from and some some worries you know

7043
05:38:28,638 --> 05:38:31,520
about in the future and and through the

7044
05:38:31,520 --> 05:38:34,400
information knowledge about you know the

7045
05:38:34,400 --> 05:38:36,958
sunset laws and and where this money

7046
05:38:36,958 --> 05:38:40,240
went and it was even on the agenda where

7047
05:38:40,240 --> 05:38:44,390
they back in front

7048
05:38:44,400 --> 05:38:46,080
of the conversation.

7049
05:38:46,080 --> 05:38:49,510
It was good.

7050
05:38:49,520 --> 05:38:54,548
One other thing.

7051
05:38:54,558 --> 05:38:56,638
So,

7052
05:38:56,638 --> 05:38:59,520
and I think it's great that the red kids

7053
05:38:59,520 --> 05:39:01,200
here,

7054
05:39:01,200 --> 05:39:03,200
>> but I'm wondering

7055
05:39:03,200 --> 05:39:05,840
I think probably the Finale High School

7056
05:39:05,840 --> 05:39:10,080
basketball boys were involved in a I'm

7057
05:39:10,080 --> 05:39:12,558
guessing it's never happened before

7058
05:39:12,558 --> 05:39:16,480
overtime win for the consolation

7059
05:39:16,480 --> 05:39:18,160
championship. I'm wondering if it would

7060
05:39:18,160 --> 05:39:20,718
be appropriate maybe to really thought

7061
05:39:20,718 --> 05:39:22,400
it was.

7062
05:39:22,400 --> 05:39:26,320
>> If I may interject on that. Yes. Um

7063
05:39:26,320 --> 05:39:29,200
spoken with couple of people in

7064
05:39:29,200 --> 05:39:31,680
gymnastics specifically. Once we get

7065
05:39:31,680 --> 05:39:35,360
outside of these state titles, we open

7066
05:39:35,360 --> 05:39:36,558
up.

7067
05:39:36,558 --> 05:39:38,000
>> That is a state club.

7068
05:39:38,000 --> 05:39:40,958
>> Pardon? It is a state. Yeah, but it's

7069
05:39:40,958 --> 05:39:43,120
not number one.

7070
05:39:43,120 --> 05:39:44,240
>> I couldn't hear you.

7071
05:39:44,240 --> 05:39:45,760
>> But it's not number one.

7072
05:39:45,760 --> 05:39:47,840
>> Right. They've been placed first and

7073
05:39:47,840 --> 05:39:51,120
that's that's what

7074
05:39:51,120 --> 05:39:54,000
they

7075
05:39:54,000 --> 05:39:58,400
remind is fourth. It's not first

7076
05:39:58,400 --> 05:39:59,840
and second and second because if you

7077
05:39:59,840 --> 05:40:01,920
started giving them let me tell you

7078
05:40:01,920 --> 05:40:07,270
about first second third

7079
05:40:07,280 --> 05:40:09,440
of who you are how important it is just

7080
05:40:09,440 --> 05:40:11,440
place

7081
05:40:11,440 --> 05:40:15,520
first is not always don't always pass

7082
05:40:15,520 --> 05:40:19,360
excited about just getting some placeic

7083
05:40:19,360 --> 05:40:26,868
local%

7084
05:40:26,878 --> 05:40:28,958
And you're on friendly ears because I

7085
05:40:28,958 --> 05:40:31,440
we've had this conversation

7086
05:40:31,440 --> 05:40:34,558
suggested the recognition for two skiers

7087
05:40:34,558 --> 05:40:36,958
who placed number one at the state meet

7088
05:40:36,958 --> 05:40:39,120
but were not number one to all the

7089
05:40:39,120 --> 05:40:42,708
points.

7090
05:40:42,718 --> 05:40:45,680
» So what's happening with the with the

7091
05:40:45,680 --> 05:40:47,840
two seers?

7092
05:40:47,840 --> 05:40:50,798
>> You said no state champions

7093
05:40:50,798 --> 05:40:52,638
>> because they were points winners. They

7094
05:40:52,638 --> 05:40:55,360
were only they only won first at the

7095
05:40:55,360 --> 05:40:56,080
state meet.

7096
05:40:56,080 --> 05:40:58,400
>> Okay, that was

7097
05:40:58,400 --> 05:41:02,436
crazy. Then we had the uh

7098
05:41:02,436 --> 05:41:05,360
[snorts] women's hockey

7099
05:41:05,360 --> 05:41:11,590
state

7100
05:41:11,600 --> 05:41:14,240
» Okay. So So [clears throat] what about

7101
05:41:14,240 --> 05:41:16,160
So here we go. So we got kids on the

7102
05:41:16,160 --> 05:41:18,958
wrestling team. They didn't win the

7103
05:41:18,958 --> 05:41:21,520
state as a group, but they had

7104
05:41:21,520 --> 05:41:23,040
>> but the individuals did.

7105
05:41:23,040 --> 05:41:25,200
>> And we recognized those last year.

7106
05:41:25,200 --> 05:41:27,440
>> Yeah. Well, we still got some coming up

7107
05:41:27,440 --> 05:41:34,470
this weekend last week. Last weekend,

7108
05:41:34,480 --> 05:41:35,920
two or three out of the play saying,

7109
05:41:35,920 --> 05:41:37,920
"Hey, you guys are good. The last time

7110
05:41:37,920 --> 05:41:39,760
you second, third, and fourth." Well,

7111
05:41:39,760 --> 05:41:44,000
they place he's eventually a state title

7112
05:41:44,000 --> 05:41:47,360
which is different than any team title

7113
05:41:47,360 --> 05:41:50,718
they wrestle with.

7114
05:41:50,718 --> 05:41:52,320
That's why I always thought it was

7115
05:41:52,320 --> 05:41:54,320
pretty unique to go down there. I'm

7116
05:41:54,320 --> 05:41:57,280
guessing there's no team ever

7117
05:41:57,280 --> 05:41:58,958
with

7118
05:41:58,958 --> 05:42:01,760
play for

7119
05:42:01,760 --> 05:42:06,470
this case.

7120
05:42:06,480 --> 05:42:08,080
I'll tell you what, when you watch those

7121
05:42:08,080 --> 05:42:09,680
kids,

7122
05:42:09,680 --> 05:42:10,798
your [clears throat] excitement was

7123
05:42:10,798 --> 05:42:12,718
clear through the roof. You can't tell

7124
05:42:12,718 --> 05:42:15,360
anyone

7125
05:42:15,360 --> 05:42:26,266
ever said anything that it wasn't.

7126
05:42:26,276 --> 05:42:28,240
[laughter]

7127
05:42:28,240 --> 05:42:30,400
All in favor?

7128
05:42:30,400 --> 05:42:44,628
So, we'll get to

7129
05:42:44,638 --> 05:42:49,000
How are you? I'm ready. Perfect.