[0:02] Welcome to your Paterson City Coun-- Hey, everybody. Hello.
[0:05] We're gonna get started. Full house. Full house.
[0:09] Welcome, everyone, to your Paterson City Council meeting, Tuesday, March
[0:12] seventeenth, twenty twenty-six. Report from closed session.
[0:15] Your city council is returning from closed session and providing the following
[0:18] report. Direction has been provided to staff, and for items F,
[0:22] G, and H, council voted four-O on all liability
[0:25] claims. Your city council will now adjourn from the closed
[0:28] session. Public meeting guidelines.
[0:31] City of Paterson City Council meetings are conducted in person at City Hall Council
[0:35] Chambers. As a courtesy and technology permitting, members of the public may
[0:38] continue to participate virtually.
[0:40] However, the city cannot guarantee that the public's access to
[0:44] teleconferencing technology will be uninterrupted, and technical difficulties may
[0:48] occur from time to time. The meeting will be televised and available for
[0:52] public viewing on Comcast Channel seven on Wednesday, Friday, and
[0:56] Saturday at twelve PM, or members of the public may watch on the internet with the
[0:59] Vimeo link available on our city's website.
[1:03] Before we start our regular session, those in the audience who wish to do so,
[1:06] please stand and bow your head for our
[1:07] invocation.
[1:14] Heavenly Father, tonight we gather as the recipients of many
[1:18] blessings. We are grateful for the wonderful community in which we
[1:22] live. We thank You for Your hand of grace and goodness upon our
[1:26] city. We thank You for the beautiful weather we are enjoying.
[1:30] Our duty is to consider decisions put before us and make wise
[1:34] choices. Once again, we humbly ask for Your wisdom and
[1:37] guidance. With Your help, may we work together in peace and
[1:41] harmony for the good of our dear city.
[1:43] Guide our decisions and grant us solutions, and we
[1:47] pray that we would receive the glory-- You receive the glory for all that we
[1:51] do. We ask this in the name of Your Son, Jesus C****t.
[1:54] Amen.
[1:56] Amen.
[1:56] Call to order. Your Paterson City Council meeting will now come to order.
[1:59] Pledge of Allegiance.
[2:02] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of
[2:06] America, and to the Republic for which it stands,
[2:10] one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
[2:14] and justice for all.
[2:19] Statements of conflict. Are there any statements of conflict from the council
[2:22] members?
[2:23] None.
[2:24] And your mayor has no conflicts. Proclamation: Women's History
[2:28] Month, March twenty twenty-six. Can the council members all join me in
[2:32] front of the dais, please?
[2:57] All right. Good evening, everybody.
[3:01] Tonight's a really special evening because we get to celebrate
[3:05] all the wonderful things that women do in our community, in our nation,
[3:10] and in our world. Just look around you.
[3:13] This city is full of leaders, not just in front of
[3:17] me, but to my left as well. I
[3:20] stand on the shoulders of those that came before
[3:23] me, leaders like Becky Campo, Deborah
[3:27] Novelli, and Pat Miccetti led this city, and I do
[3:31] the best that I can to navigate in their footsteps.
[3:35] And we should all celebrate women leaders and
[3:38] women throughout this country and this world that are the tip of the
[3:42] spear in moving our community forward.
[3:45] Therefore, I'm going to read the proclamation for Women's History
[3:49] Month.
[3:50] Leading Change: Women Shaping a Sustainable
[3:54] Future. Whereas Women's History Month is a time
[3:58] to honor the extraordinary contributions of women throughout history and to
[4:01] recognize the leaders, innovators, and changemakers who continue
[4:05] to strengthen our communities today.
[4:08] And whereas the twenty twenty-six theme, Leading the
[4:12] Change: Women Shaping a Sustainable Future, honors the women who
[4:16] have and are reimagining and rebuilding systems to ensure
[4:19] long-term sustainability, environmental, economic,
[4:23] educational, and societal. And
[4:25] whereas this theme recognizes the powerful leadership of
[4:29] women in creating a future rooted in equity, justice, and
[4:33] opportunity for all, affirming that shaping a sustainable
[4:37] future means fostering systems that support both people and the
[4:40] planet. And whereas from environmental
[4:44] advocacy to financial reform, from community
[4:47] organizing to policy innovation, women are at the
[4:51] forefront of driving holistic change, addressing today's most
[4:55] urgent challenges while laying the foundation for a more resilient and
[4:59] inclusive tomorrow. And whereas at this pivotal moment in
[5:02] history, we face overlapping global challenges, including climate
[5:07] change, economic insecurity, healthcare
[5:10] disparities, and issues that are deeply interconnected and often
[5:13] felt most acutely by women, particularly those from
[5:17] marginalized communities. And whereas women have
[5:20] consistently led the charge toward lasting solutions, expanding our
[5:24] understanding of sustainability beyond environmental concerns to com--
[5:28] encompass financial stability, economic resilience, leadership
[5:32] development, and interchangeal-- intergenerational
[5:35] equity. And whereas strengthening education
[5:39] systems, building civic power, women are
[5:42] designing the blueprints for sustainable transformation that will
[5:46] benefit all of us for generations to come.
[5:49] Now, I therefore, Michael Clausell, by virtue of the authority vested in me as the
[5:53] Mayor of the City of Paterson, do hereby proclaim March twenty twenty-six
[5:56] as Women's History Month and call upon all residents, schools,
[6:00] businesses, and community organizations to celebrate the achievements of women,
[6:04] uplift their voices...And commit to advancing equity,
[6:08] resilience, and sustainability in all we do.
[6:11] In witness hereof, I appear to fore, set my hand and cause the
[6:15] official seal of the City of Paterson to be affixed on the seventeenth day of March
[6:18] twenty twenty-six. A round of applause for Women Across the
[6:21] World.
[6:31] Welcome, everyone. Can I please have the first
[6:35] organization come up, which will be Las
[6:38] Promotoras. Please come up.
[6:45] Take
[8:17] a
[8:19] step
[8:19] up.
[8:26] Yeah. We'll get this organized.
[8:30] Hold on. Come on, Albertina.
[8:54] All right. So I wanna introduce these ladies to you.
[8:57] They are all over this community all the time.
[9:01] I can't believe the amounts of things that they do behind the scenes
[9:05] to promote our community. They call themselves the Promotoras, but believe me, the
[9:09] last people they're promoting is themselves.
[9:11] They have constantly given themselves food drives, you name it.
[9:14] They are all over this community doing wonderful things.
[9:17] And I wanna read their mission statement to you this evening in their own
[9:20] words to describe what they're all about.
[9:24] The Promotoras. Promotoras community health
[9:27] outreach workers play a critical role in promoting community-based health
[9:31] education and prevention, particularly in communities historically
[9:35] underserved by the US healthcare system.
[9:38] Promotoras and community healthcare workers represent a rich spectrum of
[9:41] characteristics that make them bridge between healthcare institutions,
[9:45] professional providers, and community residents in need of healthcare services.
[9:49] The Promotoras have a neutral-- natural capacity to provide genuinely
[9:53] holistic health prevention in the notion of ecological
[9:56] relevance. Promotoras are indigenous to Latino communities where they
[10:00] serve, speak the same language, and are intrinsically involved in
[10:04] the host community, and boy are they ever, and are committed to
[10:08] providing servicio de corazón, heartfelt
[10:11] service. Without a doubt, I can certify that a hundred
[10:14] percent. As a result, they are able to provide culturally sensitive
[10:18] service, establish trust in the community, and receive feedback from the
[10:22] community itself. The Promotoras Community Healthcare Worker Continuum
[10:26] includes diverse titles and roles within health and human service agencies
[10:30] such as peer educator, health advocate, outreach worker,
[10:34] block parent, community health worker, and Promotoras amongst
[10:38] others. Promotoras and community healthcare worker strategies aim to increase the
[10:42] capacity of community members and health outreach workers to serve as
[10:46] liaisons between their community and social service
[10:48] organizations. A huge round of applause for the Promotoras of
[10:52] Paterson.
[11:01] Albertina, I'm gonna come to you.
[11:04] You're too far away.
[11:06] Gracias.
[11:06] I just wanna-- I wanna present this proclamation to you.
[11:09] It's the same one that I read.
[11:10] Yes.
[11:10] But I wanna give it to you and the ladies this evening. Thank you so very much.
[11:14] Thank you. Thank you.
[11:15] Saying
[11:23] this is for all of them, for all the work that they do in the
[11:26] community.
[11:30] She's
[11:45] describing all the differences they make in the community and the lives of others.
[11:48] Nice to
[11:52] see you.
[11:56] Thank you.
[11:56] Congratulations.
[11:58] Thank you.
[11:58] All right.
[11:59] Thank you.
[11:59] So have
[12:00] everybody sit
[12:01] down,
[12:06] and we're gonna bring everybody back up at the end.
[12:08] Okay.
[12:22] Okay. Muchísimas gracias, promotoras, por estar aquí con nosotros.
[12:27] Next up, we have an organization that
[12:31] is here today, Soroptimist of Paterson.
[12:34] Please come up.
[12:36] Give it up.
[12:36] Come
[12:44] in
[12:48] here.
[12:53] Yeah.
[13:01] Hi.
[13:03] Hi. Hello there. How are you? Hi, Gabby.
[13:21] All right. We'll get that picture
[13:22] first.
[13:42] All right. So I'm still gonna read the Soroptimist mission
[13:45] statement, but the one thing that I'll say about the ladies up
[13:49] front right now is they epitomize leadership.
[13:52] I have seen them move mountains in this community, and I've
[13:55] relied on each and every one of them at one point or another
[13:59] to help me with the job that I do for each and every one of you, and I know the
[14:03] council feels the same way. They have inspired me.
[14:07] They have helped me continue during times where it's been really
[14:11] tough. I'll reach out to them, and I'll call them, and they'll just say
[14:15] the right thing at the right moment to help me keep going and doing my best for
[14:19] you guys every day. So I can certify that each and every one of these
[14:22] ladies is the best of Paterson. Now I'm gonna read their
[14:26] mission statement. The Soroptimist of
[14:29] Paterson. The Soroptimist is a global volunteer
[14:33] organization that provides women and girls with access to
[14:36] education and training they need to achieve economic empowerment,
[14:40] specifically those facing significant obstacles.
[14:44] The tagline that they go by is "Invest in
[14:47] Dreams." And this is a quote: "I've learned that
[14:50] people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but the
[14:54] people will never forget how you make them feel." And I'm telling you, that is true
[14:58] for each and every one of these women.
[15:00] I implore a huge round of applause for the Soroptimist of Paterson.
[15:10] I don't even know which one to give it to. There's so many leaders up here.
[15:13] Come here. You know which one you are.
[15:19] Would you like to say a few words?
[15:21] Yes. I just wanna thank this community,
[15:25] that I've been a p- member of for over twenty years.
[15:28] I've had the pleasure of serving in Soroptimist for eight years, twice as
[15:31] president, and, it's been a nice journey with these
[15:35] ladies. We do appreciate all the support that we receive from
[15:38] everyone in our community, and Mayor Clausell has come to our
[15:42] rescue quite a few times. And so, so we do
[15:46] appreciate any support that we receive.
[15:49] And this month, if you haven't noticed, there are plenty of signs out in
[15:53] yards uplifting the women in our community this month.
[15:56] This is what we wanted to give back to you.
[15:59] So thank you for your support for this time and for years to
[16:02] come.
[16:04] Another round of
[16:05] applause.
[16:11] Okay. We're gonna bring you guys in for the final picture.
[16:13] Oh.
[16:14] Have you have a seat, okay?
[16:18] Next up, we have the ladies from the Chamber of
[16:22] Commerce. Please come up.
[16:32] You
[16:36] gotta come up here. You're always up here.
[16:38] I literally ran.
[16:39] All
[17:08] right. So there's some students in the room tonight, I believe,
[17:10] correct?
[17:12] Yes.
[17:12] I wanna ask the students if they know what the Chamber of Commerce
[17:16] does.
[17:19] Anybody, shoot a hand up. What does the Chamber of Commerce do?
[17:24] You're gonna look-
[17:24] Come on. Right?
[17:28] We can too. I see you guys.
[17:30] So what, what these ladies do for our community is they
[17:33] support all our businesses, both large and
[17:36] small, sole proprietor, sole proprietor all the way up to major
[17:40] corporation. It does not matter. They're there to
[17:44] provide the fuel to keep the engines of businesses
[17:48] running each and every day in Paterson.
[17:50] And I can't believe, speaking of fuel and energy, I cannot believe the amount of
[17:54] energy these ladies have because they simply do not stop.
[17:57] When I'm exhausted and ready to flop on my couch at the end of the day, they're
[18:00] still running around trying to bring customers in the doors of these businesses.
[18:04] So I truly appreciate everything they all do.
[18:07] Uh, as you're seeing now, there's some repeat offenders up here.
[18:10] You will see that theme continue, right?
[18:13] Um, and I just, I can't be grateful enough to the job
[18:17] that they do for our families and our businesses.
[18:19] So I'm gonna read their mission statement to you now.The Chamber of Commerce
[18:23] mission statement. It's a united group of individual business
[18:27] people who work voluntarily to develop and maintain business
[18:31] environment of prosperity and growth for the business
[18:35] community. The Patterson-Wesley Chamber of Commerce is dedicated to the
[18:38] economic empowerment of our community.
[18:41] May I please have a round of applause for the Chamber of
[18:43] Commerce?
[18:51] Where's the boss at? Where's the boss?
[18:54] Would you like to say something, boss?
[18:58] Um, hello, everyone. My name is Candice Weirich.
[19:00] I have had the absolute privilege and honor of being, the president of the
[19:04] Chamber for the last couple of years.
[19:06] Um, and I love that our mission statement includes
[19:09] volunteers, 'cause we are actually one of the only chamber of commerces in
[19:12] Stanislaus County that's run solely by volunteers.
[19:15] So none of us get paid to do what we do.
[19:18] We all do it out of the goodness of our heart and to support our business community
[19:21] because we understand that a strong business community means strong
[19:25] profits, 'cause that's where they get their money from. It means strong everything.
[19:28] So, and
[19:30] I would have probably died, quit, ran out of this town a
[19:34] long time ago if it wasn't for the team that's up here and some that couldn't
[19:38] make it tonight. Um, it's such a group effort.
[19:41] I cannot even begin to tell you how much everyone has
[19:45] roles, everyone has responsibilities, and it really does take an
[19:49] entire village to run and do the things that we do, the programs, the
[19:53] classes, the events, the mixers. So if you ever get an opportunity to come
[19:57] to one of our events, they're, like, ninety-nine point nine percent free.
[20:00] Um, we hardly ever charge for any of our events, and it really is a great
[20:04] opportunity to meet your neighbors, and then find out you might not know that
[20:08] your next door neighbor owns a business. You just see them leave every morning.
[20:10] You have no idea that they own a business right in the heart of downtown.
[20:13] So, it's a great opportunity for you to be able to get to meet your neighbors
[20:16] and, find out about local businesses. I don't know what I was supposed to say.
[20:20] I wasn't prepared.
[20:25] Thank you.
[20:27] Oh, so-
[20:29] This is one of our junior ambassadors. Actually, we have four junior ambassadors.
[20:33] It's mainly just our kids 'cause they have to go everywhere we go.
[20:35] Um, but they're, they're great. This is one of them.
[20:39] One's outside.
[20:40] Oh, yeah. One's that we can't see you.
[20:41] Yeah.
[20:43] Okay. Come back, come back, come back.
[20:56] Round of applause for the Chamber of
[20:57] Commerce.
[21:05] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, lady.
[21:06] See
[21:07] you
[21:09] later.
[21:20] Okay, next up, we
[21:23] have
[21:25] Invest In Me. Please come ama-- come on
[21:28] up.
[21:32] Can we get
[21:36] one?
[21:38] Can we get one?
[21:42] Okay.
[21:43] It's a hugging crowd.
[21:45] We, we do hugs. I do hugs.
[21:48] This is the best city council meeting ever.
[21:57] I don't remember the monitoring from these different groups in one night before.
[22:01] Sometimes two.
[22:04] No, I want hugs.
[22:14] All right, everybody. You know what? Why don't we do the pictures first?
[22:17] You guys good with
[22:18] that?
[22:32] All right. Another opportunity for the students in the room, and you better get
[22:35] this one right. Who knows what Invest In Me
[22:38] does?
[22:41] Anybody? Ooh. All
[22:44] right. I will tell
[22:46] you. Invest In Me has
[22:51] a-- an incredible amount of information out there about what they do, but I'm gonna
[22:55] break it down really simple. Erica Ayala and her
[22:58] organization build leaders, period, full
[23:01] stop. The young ladies and young men you see before
[23:05] you are the future leaders of this city, they're futures of
[23:08] businesses. They, they probably could run for president of United States, one
[23:12] of them someday. And it, it is due to the
[23:15] program that Erica has set up that basically
[23:19] takes a young person from the ground up and turns them into a
[23:23] leader. And it's just-- it's shocking to see the
[23:26] transformation over the years because I've known some of you
[23:30] since you were little and still hang out with the family from time to
[23:33] time. So it's, it's just great seeing the
[23:37] formation of a person going from an adolescent
[23:41] with, like, no responsibilities and you just wanna play on your phone to
[23:44] being a future leader and, and helping build other future leaders,
[23:48] which is another main tenet of the organization that Erica has set up.
[23:52] So I'm just very grateful for Erica and everything that, that she
[23:56] does, and each and every one of you for helping guide
[24:00] the future students that come behind you.
[24:02] So I'm gonna read their mission statement.
[24:04] The mission at Invest In Me is to foster empowerment, cultivate leadership,
[24:08] and promote well-being, and encourage civic engagement among
[24:12] the diverse population of Stanislaus County.
[24:16] Through innovative programs, partnerships, and advocacy, we strive to create
[24:19] opportunities for personal growth, community collaboration, and
[24:23] positive social change. A huge round of applause for Invest In
[24:27] Me.Erica,
[24:33] can I get you to say a few words about your organization?
[24:36] Okay, let's do this. Um, so thank you so much for welcoming
[24:39] us. Um, it's my honor and privilege to be able to,
[24:44] uplift a young-- a young woman's empowerment program is what we were well-known for
[24:47] for a long time. And as you can see, we also have a young men's
[24:51] empow-empowerment program, which we're really proud of.
[24:53] 'Cause at the end of the day, women, we are awesome. We do it all.
[24:56] We know this, but we need man allies.
[24:58] So it's my privilege to welcome these young men and the other young men in our
[25:01] program, 'cause together as a community, we're so much powerful, and we can uplift
[25:05] each other, work together at collaboratively.
[25:07] And it's wonderful to be in spaces with so many nonprofits and,
[25:12] because we work together, right?
[25:13] To be able to, make our community a better place.
[25:15] So thank you so much for having us. Um, I'm very, um...
[25:19] I love being a woman and being in this space with you all, and I think that's
[25:23] something that we should uplift and be proud of every day. Thank you.
[25:26] All right. Round of applause for
[25:30] Erica. All right, so I'll have you guys sit back down, and then we'll bring
[25:33] everybody up in just a second. All right.
[25:38] Last but not least, please come up,
[25:41] Rotary.
[25:55] Come on, Rotarians. This is my group.
[26:00] Stand.
[26:23] I know where she is.
[26:28] All right. All right. Take some
[26:29] pictures.
[26:43] All right. You have a missing assignment,
[26:46] Rotary. We didn't get a mission statement from
[26:48] you. That means I'm gonna have to hand it over to the boss of
[26:52] the organization to explain what the mission
[26:55] is. What I will say
[26:59] is
[27:00] it's another group of women leaders, both in, in
[27:04] business and across our community, prior council members.
[27:08] This is a powerhouse of leadership to my left. I actually feel kind of intimidated.
[27:12] I'm gonna take one step away just to maintain a distance of safety 'cause I am a
[27:16] cop. It's gotta be arm's distance, right?
[27:19] Now, all, all, right? All joking aside, I have
[27:23] looked up to these ladies as well. I have reached out to them for
[27:27] advice, and I have seen them do amazing things in our community.
[27:30] And the one thing that the Rotary does do that's a little bit different than the
[27:34] other organizations is they actually help people across the world,
[27:38] the entire world, different organizations that need
[27:42] help, right? We have abundance here in this country due
[27:46] to the grace of God, and we have to share it with other
[27:49] people that weren't born with those types of advantages.
[27:53] And so the Rotary does that through its organization network that
[27:56] spreads across the globe. So I'm gonna hand it over to the
[28:00] boss, another lady leader over here to my left, so she can explain
[28:04] the exact mission and really what does Patterson Rotary do for our community.
[28:08] Boss, take the floor.
[28:11] Hi, I'm San Borba. I'm the president of Patterson
[28:14] Rotary. I'm a twenty-seven-year member.
[28:17] Patterson Rotary Club is about eighty years old, and
[28:20] Rotary International is about a hundred and twenty years
[28:24] old. We have about one point four million members
[28:28] in our club, and what we do is,
[28:31] promote business and leadership in our community
[28:36] by fundraising and then distributing the funds locally and
[28:40] globally. And, any of you students back there, you probably
[28:43] received a dictionary from us in third grade.
[28:46] Remember us? That's us. Good to see
[28:50] you.
[28:54] There-- And there is also a rumor out there that they throw a h**l of a party at
[28:57] the Apricot Fiesta. Is that true? Are those rumors true? I've never been there.
[29:01] I don't know what you're talking about.
[29:07] San, I wanna present this proclamation to the group.
[29:10] Congratulations on everything you guys do.
[29:12] Thank you so very much for all your support.
[29:14] Another round of applause for the Rotary.
[29:16] Okay, now don't-
[29:17] Thanks, Mike.
[29:17] Yes. Don't go anywhere.
[29:23] I can finally take these glasses off, or s- you gotta stop making the
[29:27] print so small. All right. I need
[29:31] all the people that were up here during this
[29:34] meeting to come back up here for one gigantic group
[29:38] photo. Come on down. No
[29:41] refusals.
[29:53] No, right. Yeah, you'll stand above.
[29:55] Yeah.
[30:07] Oh, I know. Crazy. Carlos.
[30:11] All
[30:14] right.
[30:22] Thank
[30:29] you.
[31:03] All right.
[31:05] All right, everybody look at the cameras or at the cell
[31:08] phones.
[31:32] Huge round of applause,
[31:33] everybody.
[32:35] All right, everybody, we are gonna continue our meeting with a presentation
[32:38] from StanCOG. Take it away.
[32:44] All right. Uh, good evening, Mr. Mayor, member of the council
[32:47] staff. Uh, my name's Chris Gregerson. I'm with Kimley-Horn.
[32:50] We're working with StanCOG or the Stanislaus Council of Governments.
[32:54] Uh, it's my honor to be here tonight in such a engaged community with so many
[32:59] great people willing to give back.
[33:01] Um,
[33:02] I'm just here to talk about the regional transportation plan and sustainable
[33:06] community strategies that StanCOG's undertaking right now, which is
[33:10] a master plan for the Stanislaus,
[33:13] community. So I'm just gonna give an overview of what it
[33:16] is, the scenarios that we've developed, how it connects to other
[33:21] projects StanCOG's undergoing, how people can
[33:24] participate, which is really why I'm here tonight, to, to generate more
[33:27] participation, public input, and then, some next
[33:30] steps. So RTP/SCS is
[33:34] a, reflection of the plan for the cities and counties
[33:38] through twenty forty-nine, focusing on land
[33:42] use and how that impacts transportation, really looking at all
[33:46] transportation modes. Uh, there are some federal and state requirements
[33:49] that we're required to abide by. Uh, and overall, it's a high-level planning
[33:53] document. So one of the main things
[33:57] that the plan must do is it must be fiscally constrained, so all the transportation
[34:01] projects that appear in the plan, have to have an
[34:04] identified revenue source. Uh, that's one of the biggest requirements.
[34:08] There's air quality goals, both at the federal and state level,
[34:14] and also must, comply with CEQA.
[34:16] So it has environmental requirements, so there's an environmental impact report
[34:20] also being done.
[34:22] Uh, just a couple of quick definitions that'll appear, in the rest of
[34:25] the presentation. So vehicle miles traveled, just the
[34:29] distance that the collective vehicles travel.
[34:31] So in the example here, we have four vehicles traveling thirty miles, so
[34:35] that's a hundred and twenty VMT. And then missing middle housing is the
[34:39] housing that falls in between single-family and large apartment
[34:42] buildings, so townhomes, duplexes, small apartment
[34:46] homes, things like that.
[34:49] So StanCOG partnered with the University of Pacific's Demographics re--
[34:53] Department to do the projected growth in the county, at the city
[34:57] and, and county level, through twenty forty-nine.
[35:00] So what you see on here is just a summary of that growth, and
[35:04] that, gets distributed, throughout our four
[35:08] different scenarios that we develop.
[35:11] The, the four scenarios are really developed while the growth totals stay the
[35:15] same. It's really where that growth is, is being,
[35:19] distributed throughout, and I'll go into a little bit more detail.
[35:21] But as we develop those, scenarios, we have a few guiding
[35:24] principles, ensuring a jobs-housing balance, so,
[35:29] people can stay in their com-- work in their community, focusing on
[35:32] low-growth VMT areas, and, growing in
[35:36] infill areas to try and reduce the reliance on cars to get
[35:40] around, and increasing that access to opportunity.
[35:43] So trying to promote growth closer to jobs and, and,
[35:47] shopping, restaurants, things like that.
[35:50] And then also, preserving farmland, knowing how important that is here in the
[35:54] Stanislaus, community. So just briefly
[35:58] touching on the four scenarios. The first one is the preferred scenario from the
[36:01] twenty twenty-two that alwa-- RTP that always gets, brought
[36:05] over. So that was focusing on distributing missing middle housing throughout the
[36:09] county. Uh, we have two mixed-use scenarios, so focusing
[36:13] on, putting gr-- housing growth close to transit in
[36:17] the first one, and then putting housing growth close to employment centers
[36:21] to try and, reduce the, the length of vehicle trips and also
[36:25] provide, matches with transit and other ways to get around
[36:29] without having to drive. Our last one is increased
[36:33] ADUs. So, accessory dwelling units, small units
[36:37] on both existing and future, single-family
[36:40] lots. Um, so trying to increase the density, in single family, not
[36:44] necessarily with mis-mixed-use housing, and that's a little bit more
[36:48] distributed throughout the, the different,
[36:51] communities. So I talked about transportation.
[36:55] So the transportation improvements in terms of roadway, stay the same
[36:58] throughout the four scenarios. Where we see differences are really with the transit
[37:02] and then the bicycle infrastructure.Um, so in terms of
[37:06] both the, mixed-use scenarios, the bike and
[37:10] transit is really focused on, on the, the
[37:14] transit or linking
[37:16] the housing growth with the jobs in terms of the third one.
[37:19] So in the, transit mixed use scenario, we have
[37:23] six different express bus routes throughout the county, and
[37:27] the jobs-focused mixed use one has three.
[37:30] Uh, the last two only just have one, transit
[37:33] option. Um, so just looking at, at increases and trying to balance
[37:37] investments with, getting folks
[37:41] around. So Stanislaus-- or StanCOG is
[37:44] also embarking on three different projects that link with this to try
[37:48] and, put the plan into action, so it's not just a report that sits on a
[37:52] shelf. So we have the community enhancement zone plan, which is really
[37:55] developing a toolkit on how to build missing middle housing and
[37:59] get transportation improvements so that, the needed housing can
[38:03] actually get constructed in, in the region.
[38:07] We have the vehicle miles traveled reduction strategy, which is trying to help
[38:10] developments meet their CEQA requirements, so trying to get those
[38:13] housings, developments approved quicker.
[38:16] And then the non-motorized plan update is really a regional look at
[38:20] bicycle infrastructure, so we can link communities, so you don't
[38:24] get to the edge of one city, and the bike lane that you're riding on just
[38:28] ends. Um, really trying to, to bring all the communities
[38:31] together. So, well,
[38:35] I'm here tonight trying to get as much input as we can from the different
[38:38] communities. We were going to every single city council meeting, in the
[38:42] county throughout, end of February throughout
[38:46] March. Um, we're also going to the county board.
[38:49] Um, one of my coworkers is at the county board tonight.
[38:52] Um, we've done a bunch of focus group meetings and workshops.
[38:56] We had someone at the library, for most of the day today reaching out to the
[39:00] community. Um, we have flyers and
[39:03] surveys in the back, both in English and Spanish.
[39:06] We have a project website, that contains, this
[39:10] presentation and a ton more information on all the topics that I covered
[39:14] tonight. Uh, this presentation is also available in Spanish on the
[39:18] project website. Um, we have an interactive map where folks can
[39:22] go in and, and identify locations where they wanna see different
[39:25] transportation improvements. Uh, so all of that can be found on the project website
[39:29] that's here. Uh, so n-next
[39:33] steps, just continued outreach. We're gonna be doing outreach through the end of
[39:36] April. Um, we've been going to different pop-ups.
[39:40] We were at the high school last month, for their annual Youth Empowerment
[39:43] Conference. Um, and as I mentioned, the council meetings, and we're gonna have
[39:47] a few other workshops. We've met with CPOs, things like that, just
[39:51] trying to generate as much input as we can.
[39:53] So this is really a, a community planning document, not just something
[39:56] StanCOG puts together on its own. Um, so next steps are
[40:00] just pref-- choosing a preferred scenario, presenting that to the StanCOG
[40:04] board. Um, there's two public hearings.
[40:06] The one in June is the draft plan that's gonna be open
[40:10] for public comment for fifty-five days, and then the one in August is when it
[40:14] gets adopted. And then with that, I'll take any
[40:17] questions.
[40:18] Questions, comments, or concerns from the council at this time?
[40:23] I have a quick one. Um-
[40:24] Mm-hmm.
[40:24] You know, for that p-- pilot program, you have two locations.
[40:27] Do we know which locations are you gonna be using so far as of now?
[40:30] Uh, there's one in Modesto. We're still working on, on the second one, but that's
[40:34] been going through the process. So, we haven't finalized that
[40:37] yet.
[40:38] Thank you.
[40:39] Mm-hmm.
[40:39] Great. I have no further questions. Thank you very much.
[40:41] Thank you.
[40:50] All right. Next up is items from the public.
[40:53] Any member of the audience who wishes to address the council on a matter not listed
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[41:19] person addressing the council will be limited to a maximum of three minutes unless
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[41:32] period, the mayor determines that the citizen will not complete their comments
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[41:38] later date. The City Council fully supports the right of the public to comment
[41:42] freely during the public comment period per the Brown Act.
[41:45] However, all comments must be made respectfully and in no way be
[41:49] disruptive in nature. The Brown Act expressly authorizes the legislative
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[42:00] makes it a misdemeanor to willfully disturb a lawful meeting.
[42:03] Please state your name and city for the record when you step to the podium.
[42:07] Madam, the floor is yours.
[42:09] Hello. Good evening. Amber Silva, Patterson,
[42:12] California. I am here representing Love Patterson this evening.
[42:16] We have a couple of save the dates. We have our annual Love
[42:20] Patterson Day, April eighteenth, eight AM, North Park.
[42:23] We hope to see everybody out there.
[42:26] And then we have coming up on March twenty-fifth, we have Human Trafficking
[42:30] 101 at six PM at the school district office or
[42:34] the school district... What is that?
[42:37] The-
[42:37] Professional .
[42:38] Thank you. Over there. All right. And that's all I have this
[42:42] evening. Thank you.
[42:43] Awesome. Thank you very much. Thank you, Amber. Great job.
[42:46] Great job.
[42:53] Good evening, Mayor and City Council members.
[42:56] Ma'am.
[42:56] I'm Karen Fries. I'm the CEO from the Del Puerto Healthcare District.
[43:00] And our district currently provides ambulance service and primary care to
[43:04] residents of west side of Stanislaus County, including
[43:07] Patterson. And as you know, we're developing a just under forty-acre
[43:11] healthcare and mixed-use campus in the center of the city.
[43:15] I'm here tonight with some particularly exciting news.
[43:19] We're here to briefly introduce legislation that's important for the future
[43:23] of emergency medical care in our community.
[43:26] Assembly Bill 2282 was introduced on February
[43:29] 19th and authored by Assembly Member Juan Alanis.
[43:34] As many of you know, Patterson is one of the largest communities in
[43:37] California without a hospital or emergency department.
[43:41] When a resident experiences a serious medical emergency,
[43:45] patients often have to be transported a significant distance to receive
[43:49] definitive emergency care. This means longer
[43:53] transport times
[43:54] for ambulances, longer waits for treatment for
[43:58] patients, and increased strain on regional emergency
[44:02] departments. Assembly Bill
[44:04] 2282 is designed to help address this gap
[44:09] acro-- to access emergency stabilization services
[44:12] specifically in Patterson for the entire west side of
[44:16] Stanislaus County. The legislation is based on our
[44:19] long-term development of the healthcare campus and would allow the
[44:23] earlier development of an emergency stabilization facility
[44:27] prior to the full hospital being built.
[44:30] It can receive patients, provide emergency evaluation and
[44:34] stabilization, and determine the most appropriate next step in
[44:37] care, whether it's treatment locally or rapid transfer to a
[44:41] hospital that provides specialized services such as trauma or
[44:45] cardiac care.
[44:47] This model has been successfully used in other parts of the country to improve
[44:51] access to emergency care in communities that do not yet have a full
[44:55] hospital. For Patterson and the west side of Stanislaus
[44:58] County, legislation like this creates an important pathway to strengthen
[45:02] local emergency care while continuing to work towards the
[45:05] long-term goal of expanded healthcare services, including a
[45:09] hospital on the west side of Stanislaus County.
[45:13] Tonight, I simply wanna introduce Assembly Bill
[45:16] 2282 by Assembly Member Alanis to the
[45:20] council and to the community, and to express our deep
[45:23] appreciation to Assembly Member, Member Alanis for recognizing
[45:27] the unique challenges faced by communities like
[45:30] Patterson when it comes to a-accessing emergency
[45:33] care. We look forward to keeping the council informed as
[45:37] AB 2282 moves through the legislature and exploring the ways
[45:41] the city and the healthcare district can continue working together
[45:45] to improve healthcare access for Patterson residents.
[45:49] Thank you for your time.
[45:50] Uh, yeah. That was great. A round of applause.
[45:58] Council Member, the floor is yours.
[46:00] Thank you, Mayor and Council Members.
[46:03] So good to see you. My name is Cynthia Homan, and I'm a
[46:07] resident of Patterson for fifty-two years, and I'm
[46:11] also the chair of the City of Patterson Senior
[46:14] Commission. So I came here tonight to encourage
[46:18] seniors out there everywhere to attend our meetings, which
[46:22] is the third Tuesday of every month, and
[46:26] they alternate between City Hall and the Hammond Senior Center.
[46:30] Today was City Hall, so next month will be at the Hammond Senior Center.
[46:33] However, you can also join via Zoom,
[46:37] either from home or from the senior center itself if
[46:41] you need, you know, guidance there.
[46:43] So I encourage every senior in the community to attend.
[46:47] We're here for you, and we always have speakers,
[46:51] presentations about, items that are
[46:54] important to us seniors. So I just wanna encourage you all to
[46:58] come, and that's it. Thank you.
[47:00] Thank you,
[47:00] Cynthia.
[47:09] Hi, and thank you for having us here, and thank you for the recognition.
[47:12] Um, I wanted to-- My name is Cynthia Harris.
[47:14] I'm representing the Patterson-Westley Chamber of Commerce, and I'm here to let you
[47:18] guys know that, like we stated before, we do have mixers.
[47:21] We're working on having a mixer once a month here locally.
[47:25] Um, our first one this year would be on March twenty-sixth,
[47:29] so I believe that's next, week, from five to seven at Farmers
[47:33] Insurance, which is six hundred North Second Street in,
[47:37] suite one. So I wanna see you guys all there to
[47:40] support. And, right now the businesses really need your
[47:44] support, so this would be a great time to go out there and support them
[47:48] and just get to know them. And this is a good time to get to know other businesses
[47:51] too that you might not know are here. Okay. Thank you.
[47:54] Thank you, Ms. Harris.
[48:03] Good evening. Good evening. Erika Ayala.
[48:05] Um, I am representing Invest In Me, a local nonprofit, here in the community
[48:09] of Patterson. So one, I would like to thank everyone that participated and
[48:13] attended the eleventh annual Youth Empowerment Conference that was hosted a couple
[48:16] weeks ago. We had a great, outcome.
[48:18] All the community members, young people that attended, thank you so much for
[48:22] your participation. Next, I have a couple announcements, one being that the
[48:26] Stanislaus Regional Transit Authority, StanRTA, is help-- hosting a
[48:30] focus group on Wednesday, April fifteenth at the Hammond Senior Center from four
[48:34] thirty to six PM. We highly encourage you to attend.
[48:37] Um, and it's-- this event is open to everyone, and youth
[48:40] participating. Um, participation is highly encouraged.
[48:44] Next, we are hosting our third annual Growing Green Community
[48:48] event, in partnership with the city and Love Patterson.
[48:51] This event is hosted, on Wes-Wednesday, April
[48:55] twenty-second. And this year, the city, is ch- has chosen Amber
[48:59] Car- Amber Cott Park, which is near
[49:02] Creekside Middle School, to host this event from one to-- one o'clock to three PM.
[49:06] We are gonna be planting trees, and we encourage community participate, and it's
[49:10] all free. And next, I'm gonna hand it over to Ruby Reece to give us an announcement
[49:14] on a project that she's working on
[49:17] Um, good afternoon. March is Kidney Awareness Month, and
[49:21] me, Ruby Ruiz, and my friend Juliana Galvez are participating with
[49:25] Invest In Me to host a card-making event for children suffering with
[49:28] kidneys, kidney disease. And this event is open to the
[49:32] public, and it's gonna be on Thursday, March 8-- 19th
[49:36] from 5:00 to 6:00 PM at the Stonegate Apartment Community
[49:40] Center, and it's like... And I hope you guys can join us.
[49:44] Thank you.
[49:48] Great job.
[49:52] Justin, how are you gonna follow that up? It's impossible.
[49:54] I never will. I never will. Uh, well, good evening,
[49:58] Patterson Council and residents.
[49:59] Justin Farkas representing the Office of Assemblyman Juan Alanis.
[50:03] First, I wanna thank Del Puerto Healthcare District for their partnership
[50:07] in, the introduction and formation of the language going into Assembly Bill
[50:11] 2282. I just wanted to follow up with a little bit more information on that
[50:15] bill. The hearing date for that bill is gonna be on April 7th in the Assembly
[50:19] Health Committee, and there is a, website that you can
[50:22] go to and register to submit letters of,
[50:26] support for that type of legislation, and any of our legislation, should
[50:30] you feel the need. That's
[50:31] calegislation.lc.ca.gov/advocates.
[50:37] You can go there and submit as an organization or as an individual, so we would
[50:41] love the support from the community on that bill.
[50:43] Um, in the spirit of today's meeting, being,
[50:48] celebrating women in our communities, the, the
[50:50] assemblymen had the opportunity to honor a very distinct,
[50:55] lady in our community, and that, individual is Casey
[50:58] Young. Casey Young was named the Assembly District 22 Woman of the
[51:02] Year yesterday on the assembly floor.
[51:04] She is the executive director for Stanislaus Regional 911, a
[51:08] very, necessary and,
[51:12] vital part of our public safety systems and, response here in
[51:16] this, county of Stanislaus. And
[51:20] as you can imagine, we've been incredibly busy, not only with Assembly Bill
[51:23] 2282, but tw-- 19 other bills that we're actively
[51:27] juggling right now. I'm gonna go over six that have made some headway in recent
[51:31] weeks. Uh, Assembly Bill 1728 is requiring,
[51:35] California community colleges to integrate into common course
[51:39] numbering system for first responder related courses,
[51:42] specifically fire and public safety-- well, fire and,
[51:46] police. Um, that bill was in the Higher Education Committee.
[51:50] It passed today and moved into the Appropriations Committee.
[51:53] Assembly Bill 1568 strengthens the process for ending sex
[51:57] re-- offender registration. That bill made it out of the
[52:01] Public Safety Committee and is onto the Appropriations Committee.
[52:04] Assembly Bill 1617 aligns reporting deadlines for
[52:08] household hazardous waste reporting for CalRecycle and Department of
[52:12] Toxic Substances, Control. That bill made it out of
[52:16] the Environmental, Committee and onto the Appropriations
[52:19] Committee. Assembly Bill 1572 creates uniform requirements for
[52:23] annual background checks for referees at the California Interscholastic
[52:27] Federation, and veri-- the CIF will be required to
[52:31] verify the eligibility of these referees on an annual basis.
[52:34] That bill, mo-moved on to the Education Committee today.
[52:38] And lastly, Assembly Bill 1698, that bill, creates a
[52:42] tax credit for small businesses who are required to pay for food handlers',
[52:46] training and certification. That bill's been placed on the suspense file in the
[52:50] Revenue and Taxation Committee, but we are hopeful
[52:53] that it will move forward. That hearing will be closer, in April as
[52:57] well. So thank you guys for your time. Let me know if you have any questions.
[53:00] Thank you, Justin.
[53:06] And you had a perfect time, Justin. You're only like one second over.
[53:09] I won't count it.
[53:11] Candice Laroc, City of Patterson.
[53:12] I only have to wear one hat today because I had-- I was gonna do all three, but I'm
[53:16] like, "You guys are here. This is your chance." So great job to Cynthia and Amber.
[53:20] I was very happy to see that. Um, okay, so I'm here today as a mother.
[53:24] Um, and I have lived on the east side,
[53:29] shout out to the east side, on the other side of the railroad tracks, our
[53:33] entire time of living here in Patterson for like 11 years, and,
[53:37] I live right off of Hartley. And if you drive your children to school at, at
[53:41] Walnut Grove, you know how fast cars drive down
[53:45] Hartley. And yesterday, someone hit and killed my dog,
[53:48] and it was traumatizing, especially for my
[53:52] seven-year-old. But,
[53:55] I'm so worried it's gonna be a child.
[53:59] And we're fortunate enough to live on a cul-de-sac, so my kids play in the
[54:02] cul-de-sac, and they're, they're sheltered from that.
[54:04] But there are so many kids walking up and down Hartley to and from school,
[54:08] playing because that's, that's their closest street, and I'm
[54:12] so worried that something is going to happen to a child.
[54:15] Um, and that was evident yesterday when my dog
[54:19] was hit. The car ran. They didn't stay and scrape my dog off, or
[54:23] he didn't need to be scraped. He was intact, but they
[54:27] scri-- didn't do anything. They just left the dog there as my child and I are
[54:31] running to save the dog. We thought we were gonna bring home our alive dog,
[54:35] and it happened that quickly. So,
[54:40] I have to wonder if he'd have been driving an appropriate rate of
[54:44] speed for that street if that would have happened. Um, I'm not blaming him.
[54:47] It was our fault. The dog snuck out.
[54:49] I'm, I'm, I'm not blaming the person at all.
[54:52] But I do think that the fact that he ran instead of pulling over,
[54:56] is a bit of an indication that he thought he could get in trouble for what he had
[54:59] just done. Um, and so my request tonight
[55:03] is what does that process look like to get speed bumps from
[55:06] Hartley, on Hartley from Las Palmas to Walnut?
[55:10] Um, and to be honest, the traffic is bad enough in the morning that the speed bumps
[55:14] should not hinder
[55:16] people from getting to where they're going, 'cause typically you should be going
[55:20] slow anyways. But that street is used l- as a racetrack, and I know
[55:24] we've done, like, safety studies previously.
[55:26] I don't know what those look like for Hartley, but when I'm sobbing in the street
[55:30] holding my dead dog, all of my neighbors come out, and every single one of them
[55:34] was like, "We need to go to City Hall because this is gonna be a kid before we know
[55:38] it. It... Thank God it's your dog," which they didn't say it like that, but
[55:42] they're saying, "Thank goodness it's a, a dog.
[55:44] It's an animal and not a child." So, I don't know what that looks like.
[55:47] Carlos is shaking his head 'cause he knows exactly what it looks like because he's
[55:50] my council member and he lives right by Hartley, and that intersection of Las
[55:54] Palmas and Hartley is so dangerous. There's probably an accident there once a week.
[55:58] Actually, our police chief could probably attest to that.
[56:00] It's such a bad intersection, but there's nothing you guys can do about that.
[56:03] But you can do something about the rate of speed, and I would request...
[56:06] The stop signs don't work, by the way, so I don't, I don't want s- more stop signs.
[56:10] What I want is speed bumps. Thank you.
[56:21] And is... Go ahead. Go ahead, sweetie.
[56:23] No, if you have a comment to make, make it. Yeah. Go ahead.
[56:27] If you wanna make a comment on what she's saying, then move on.
[56:29] Uh, hello.
[56:30] There you go. I'm sorry.
[56:31] Am I allowed to come up?
[56:33] Yeah, absolutely.
[56:34] Okay. Uh, hi, my name is Laura West, and I am a student from Patterson High
[56:38] School. Uh, first, I'm so sorry about your
[56:42] dog. Uh, but second,
[56:46] I just wanted to say as a, a
[56:50] student also of the drama theater, that we have a performance coming up
[56:53] Friday, for Aladdin, and if anybody is
[56:57] interested in going, it is at 7:00
[57:00] o'clock, and
[57:02] I just wanted to let everybody know that that is happening.
[57:05] So, thank you.
[57:12] There is a website somewhere, I don't know where
[57:16] exactly it is.
[57:17] Get your tickets at this website.
[57:21] Um, good evening council and people of Patterson.
[57:25] Um, I'm a member of the Plus, com- community in
[57:29] Patterson High School, and we are working besides Love Patterson for Love Patterson
[57:33] Day,
[57:34] and we have a bunch of booths and positive projects going on that day
[57:38] that I would like to inform you guys about.
[57:40] Um, I'm trying to bring awareness to my booth specifically, which
[57:44] is voters registration, and what I'm trying to accomplish with this
[57:48] project is to encourage our community to register to vote and get a chance
[57:52] to have, you know, your thoughts in what you guys want and who you
[57:56] guys want to represent you in not only our community, but in the
[57:59] world. And also, this is a chance for students who are over 16
[58:03] or 16 to at least register, so when you're 18 you have the chance to
[58:07] vote and, get to pick a representative that you believe
[58:11] in. So, yeah. Thank you.
[58:13] Right on. Wonderful
[58:15] job.
[58:22] Is there anyone else present in the council chambers who wish to provide a public
[58:25] comment? All right, seeing none, Madam Clerk, is there
[58:29] anyone online who wishes to provide a public comment?
[58:32] Just as a reminder, if you're joining us on Zoom and wish to make a comment, please
[58:36] use the Raise Hand feature. If you're calling in by phone, you may press star
[58:39] nine.
[58:43] And we do not have any comments online, Mayor.
[58:45] All right. So seeing as there's no one else in the council chamber or online who
[58:48] wishes to provide a public comment, we will now close the public comment period.
[58:54] Moving on to the consent calendar.
[58:57] All items are approved via single action.
[58:59] Any item may be removed from the consent calendar for separate discussion
[59:02] upon request from a member of the public, staff, or council
[59:06] member. Unfortunately, due to an error in the
[59:09] city's agenda software, HTML links to the agenda and agenda packet
[59:13] are missing the staff report and supporting
[59:16] documents. The consent calendar will not move forward this evening due
[59:20] to the software error, and city staff will prepare a new notice of public hearing
[59:24] for a future meeting. As these items were on the PDF
[59:28] version, we are going to open them for public comment.
[59:31] Is there anyone present in the council chambers who wishes to provide a public
[59:34] comment on the consent calendar? All right, seeing
[59:38] none, Madam Clerk, is there anyone online who wishes to provide a public comment on
[59:42] the consent calendar?
[59:45] There are no comments online, Mayor.
[59:47] All right. So we will go ahead and close the public comment period, and go
[59:51] ahead and close the consent calendar.
[59:52] Those items will come back at the next meeting.
[59:55] All right, item 8.1, public hearing.
[59:58] An energy efficiency and renewable energy project with Alliance Building
[1:00:02] Solutions LLC was scheduled for public hearing and council
[1:00:05] considerations tonight, but unfortunately, due to the same
[1:00:09] problem in the city's agenda software, item 8.1 is
[1:00:12] missing from the materials posted on the city's website.
[1:00:15] Specifically, HTML links to the agenda and agenda packet are
[1:00:19] missing the agenda item description, the staff report, and
[1:00:22] supporting documents. Based on this missing
[1:00:26] information on the staff report on the HTML version, and the fact that
[1:00:30] the HTML and PDF versions are not in alignment,
[1:00:34] there is no doubt in my mind that this would be a clear violation of the Brown Act
[1:00:38] noticing requirements and expose our city to extreme liability if this
[1:00:42] item moves forward at tonight's meeting.
[1:00:44] All council members have been notified this information via email and in
[1:00:48] conference with the city manager.
[1:00:50] It is the very same reason the consent calendar items were pulled.
[1:00:54] Therefore, item 8.1 will not move forward this evening due to the software error,
[1:00:57] and city staff will prepare a new notice of public hearing for a future meeting.
[1:01:01] But, again, because the item was available on the
[1:01:05] PDF version for public hearing, we will allow public comment on this item.
[1:01:09] Is there anyone present in the council chambers or online who wishes to provide a
[1:01:13] public comment on this item?
[1:01:16] Evening council, staff, and members of the public.
[1:01:19] My name is CeCe Hall Paterson. I, had
[1:01:23] the opportunity to go through the data available online regarding
[1:01:27] the Alliance Building Solutions proposal for the city of Paterson.
[1:01:32] I cannot support
[1:01:35] their project as it stands. Um, the
[1:01:39] idea of the cost savings being guaranteed
[1:01:43] sounds delightful. The very short time that we have to
[1:01:47] make the decision to approve this is unacceptable in my
[1:01:51] mind. The material provided to us said that
[1:01:55] the studies that
[1:01:57] should have been completed before this project began
[1:02:01] have not been completed, that the city is just going to accept
[1:02:05] that ABS has our best interests at heart, and they're gonna do what's
[1:02:08] right, and we'll see the savings e- eventually.
[1:02:11] But we're still paying on the infrastructure upgrades that we've already
[1:02:15] had, so we're not even gonna see those savings for the next few
[1:02:19] years until that infrastructure is paid off.
[1:02:23] The company is two years old. They
[1:02:26] were registered in twenty twenty-four. Okay, no big deal.
[1:02:30] It's a new company.
[1:02:32] Historical,
[1:02:35] corporation, how do you say,
[1:02:38] connections, right? They've been around for a while.
[1:02:42] But this company specifically was registered in twenty twenty-four.
[1:02:45] So they've only been around for a few years, and you want us to
[1:02:49] approve a nearly five million dollar lease that in
[1:02:53] twenty years will cost us almost ten million dollars, over eight.
[1:02:57] I don't remember what the exact number was, but eight-some million dollars after
[1:03:01] all the interest. Cost savings, not
[1:03:05] included. But
[1:03:09] the... what's interesting is that the company, the president of
[1:03:13] the company, Mr. Chapman, Brad Chapman is his name,
[1:03:18] his campaign expenditures in the last two years have been
[1:03:21] significant in the communities for which he's been awarded
[1:03:25] contracts. So San Bernardino County,
[1:03:29] Orange County, he's got contracts in both of those areas and has made
[1:03:33] s- not insignificant contributions, or not contributions, excuse me, but
[1:03:37] expenditures to campains- campaigns just in the last
[1:03:41] two years. It, it just, it doesn't look good.
[1:03:44] It doesn't look good. And anybody can make the contributions that they want
[1:03:48] or the expenditures they want, but when you're
[1:03:51] contributing to campaigns
[1:03:56] in areas where those people are responsible for providing you contracts,
[1:04:00] it looks ugly. Um,
[1:04:04] additionally, the tax savings,
[1:04:07] the, rebates that the project qualifies
[1:04:11] for, those savings are figured into the project, but we're not
[1:04:15] guaranteed those savings because we're not guaranteed to get those
[1:04:18] rebates.
[1:04:20] It just, none of it makes sense to me. I don't understand.
[1:04:23] We just had a budget workshop last month.
[1:04:26] None of this was discussed in the budget work- in the budget
[1:04:30] workshop. None of it. I don't care that it was first brought to
[1:04:34] staff last year. I don't care that it was another
[1:04:37] public hearing that was continued last year.
[1:04:41] If we're looking at a ten million dollar price tag for
[1:04:44] an infrastructure upgrade, then we should know what we're talking about
[1:04:49] in the budget meeting when we don't know what our budget looks like.
[1:04:53] This-- We're-- The economy right now, are you kidding me?
[1:04:56] Gas is almost six dollars for some of us.
[1:04:58] That's insanity. We're at war with Iran.
[1:05:02] Who knows what's next, right? But yeah, let's go ahead and tack on
[1:05:05] another eight, ten million dollars. We'll see what happens.
[1:05:09] If the company is around in five years, they could still do our
[1:05:12] maintenance.
[1:05:14] Well, thank you. Uh, you're about a minute over.
[1:05:16] Excuse me. Thank you.
[1:05:17] No, no, you're fine. Thank you very much.
[1:05:18] No, and that's, that's the gist of it.
[1:05:20] Like, I d- I don't trust a brand-new company with ten million dollars of my
[1:05:24] tax money.
[1:05:25] It-- In two years' time, they could be bankrupt.
[1:05:29] They can no longer do our maintenance.
[1:05:31] So now we're on the hook for that loan plus the additional
[1:05:35] cost of contracting out that maintenance. That's absurd.
[1:05:38] I'm sorry. We need infrastructure upgrades. I support that.
[1:05:42] But I support it being done responsibly with the full planning, not
[1:05:46] partial planning, not a little bit here and a little bit there, and we'll get to it
[1:05:50] eventually. That's nonsense.
[1:05:52] Thank you.
[1:05:53] Thank you.
[1:05:53] Thank
[1:05:53] you.
[1:06:03] Well, good evening.
[1:06:03] Good evening, sir.
[1:06:04] Mayor, it's nice to meet you.
[1:06:05] Good evening.
[1:06:05] Council members, good to see you again. My name is John DiMaio.
[1:06:08] I'm the president of Alliance Building Solutions.
[1:06:11] And first I wanna say I'm very sorry about your dog.
[1:06:14] Thank you.
[1:06:15] I have eight rescues, and I don't know how I would feel if that happened to
[1:06:19] me. Um, just a, a quick
[1:06:22] point for the last speaker. The company's been
[1:06:26] around since twenty thirteen. Um, myself and the
[1:06:29] owner, Brad Chapman, have been in this business for about thirty-plus years.
[1:06:33] So it's not a new company. Um,
[1:06:37] the other element that I think if we were to provide the
[1:06:41] presentation we'd see
[1:06:43] is called a budget neutral project.
[1:06:46] That means that the monies that the city is expending right now on
[1:06:50] utilities and maintenance stays the
[1:06:53] same, and the savings that are generated by the project are
[1:06:57] used to pay for
[1:06:59] the lease that you were talking about. So it's a budget neutral.
[1:07:02] The amount of, of money that the city spends now on its operations and
[1:07:06] maintenance and utilities, it's as good a debt
[1:07:10] as death and taxes. So you pay it every year. It's budgeted every year.
[1:07:14] The project will
[1:07:16] keep that budget the same. If you don't make infrastructure
[1:07:20] improvements, your utility usage is gonna go up, and the O&M is gonna
[1:07:24] go up
[1:07:25] So it's an opportunity that we brought forward, that we worked with the city
[1:07:28] on in a collaborative manner to develop the scope so that it's
[1:07:33] the entire scope that the city needs, not things that you don't need.
[1:07:37] We're not here to sell you anything that you don't need or want.
[1:07:40] Um,
[1:07:42] so again, it's a, it's a project that stands on its own.
[1:07:46] The, the investment tax credit is not used to pay for the
[1:07:49] project. It's only the utility and operational savings.
[1:07:53] The seven hundred and eighty-five thousand dollars that the city is eligible to
[1:07:57] receive would go straight into the city
[1:08:00] coffers. It's not used to calculate the savings to pay
[1:08:04] the project. So it's money that the city can use,
[1:08:08] again, either discretionally or however you decide to use it, that
[1:08:12] comes straight from the IRS. So again, it's a
[1:08:15] project that pays for itself with savings.
[1:08:17] It's been carefully crafted with the input from city
[1:08:20] staff. City staff did a ph- a phenomenal job of due diligence,
[1:08:24] a, a high level of due diligence, not only in the previous twelve months, but in
[1:08:28] the last three months, since that meeting was postponed in
[1:08:32] December. So I'm available to answer any further questions
[1:08:36] that you have. Uh, we look forward to-- we looked forward to tonight's
[1:08:40] meeting. We'll look forward to the meeting in a couple of weeks to go through even
[1:08:44] more questions, but I'm here. Our finance director is here if he
[1:08:48] wants to say a few words as well. Um, and again, we're here for, to answer any
[1:08:51] questions. It's a great project.
[1:08:54] Thank you, sir. I appreciate you
[1:08:55] coming.
[1:09:02] No? Okay. Is there anyone else present in the council chambers
[1:09:06] who wishes to provide a public comment on item eight one?
[1:09:10] All right, seeing none, Madam Clerk, is there anyone online who wishes to provide a
[1:09:13] public comment on item eight one?
[1:09:15] Just as a reminder, if you're joining us on Zoom and wish to make a comment, please
[1:09:19] raise the, your ha- please use the Raise Hand feature.
[1:09:22] If you're calling in by phone, you may press star nine.
[1:09:26] We have no comments online, Mayor.
[1:09:27] All right. So seeing that there's no one else present in the council chambers or
[1:09:31] online for item eight one, we will now close the public comment period
[1:09:34] and the item.
[1:09:37] Item eight two, this was agendized as continued to a future regular city
[1:09:40] council meeting, the introduction of ordinance amending Title Fifteen, building
[1:09:44] construction of the Patterson Municipal Code and adopting by reference the
[1:09:47] California Code of Regulations Title Twenty-Four, twenty twenty-six edition of the
[1:09:51] California Building and Standards Code.
[1:09:53] Item eight two will be continued to a future city council meeting, but as it was
[1:09:57] agendized, we will open it for public comment.
[1:09:59] Is there anyone present in the council chambers who wishes to provide a public
[1:10:02] comment on item eight two? Seeing none, Madam
[1:10:06] Clerk, is there anyone online who wishes to provide a public comment on item eight
[1:10:09] two?
[1:10:11] No comments, Mayor.
[1:10:12] All right. So since there's no one in the council chambers or online who wishes to
[1:10:15] provide a public comment on eight two, we will now close the item.
[1:10:18] It will be continued to a future regular city council meeting.
[1:10:22] City council items. Council Member Hernandez.
[1:10:25] No updates at this moment. Thank you.
[1:10:28] Council Member Romero.
[1:10:30] No update.
[1:10:31] Council Member Mora.
[1:10:32] No updates.
[1:10:33] Mayor Pro Tem.
[1:10:34] No updates as well.
[1:10:36] All right. And we have a STANCOG meeting, tomorrow in Modesto, and we'll
[1:10:40] provide an update at the next meeting. I have no further comments.
[1:10:43] Other matters?
[1:10:46] None.
[1:10:47] I do.
[1:10:47] Okay. Go ahead.
[1:10:52] First, I want to thank the staff for the work that went into preparing the
[1:10:55] in-house city attorney cost analysis, and also
[1:10:59] acknowledge the continued service and support we receive from our city attorney and
[1:11:03] legal team.
[1:11:05] For me, the discussion around the city legal service model is
[1:11:08] really about making sure we are doing our due diligence and being responsive
[1:11:12] to our community. I have heard from residents who want to better
[1:11:16] understand how public funds are being spent,
[1:11:19] and I think it's appropriate for us to take a thoughtful and
[1:11:23] transparent look at this issue. As council members,
[1:11:27] we have a responsibility to evaluate major structural decisions
[1:11:31] carefully and ensure we have the most complete information
[1:11:34] possible. Because of that, I believe it would be
[1:11:38] beneficial for the council to also consider an
[1:11:42] independent third-party review so we can have an additional objective
[1:11:45] perspective. With that in mind, Mayor, I would like to
[1:11:49] make a motion directing the staff to explore obtaining proposals for an
[1:11:53] independent review of the city legal service model and bring that information
[1:11:57] back to council for further consideration.
[1:12:00] This proposal's on the table. Do we have a
[1:12:03] second?
[1:12:05] Mayor?
[1:12:06] Yes.
[1:12:07] If I may.
[1:12:07] Yes, please do.
[1:12:08] From a procedural standpoint-
[1:12:10] Yes
[1:12:10] ... this, council comments is not the time for
[1:12:14] motions for, future agenda meetings-
[1:12:17] Thank you
[1:12:17] ... and agenda items. So my recommendation would be, based on Mayor Pro
[1:12:21] Tem's request that this be agendized for further
[1:12:25] consideration at another meeting where it's been properly agendized.
[1:12:28] Perfect. Thank you.
[1:12:31] Okay, so a quick question. Just to-- I'm gonna have to
[1:12:35] redo this next agenda, 'cause I've discussed this with our city
[1:12:39] manager, or Mike Boulay, and haven't gotten any further.
[1:12:43] I mean, at this point,
[1:12:44] our assistant city manager and Fernando made it very clear that
[1:12:48] I need at least two people to motion.
[1:12:51] So when is gonna be the right time? 'Cause I've discussed this before, and now it
[1:12:54] doesn't seem like I'm getting anywhere.
[1:12:56] So based off of... That's correct.
[1:12:59] So as to avoid any Brown Act issues, the council's always advised never
[1:13:03] to speak directly with each other, and so taking it to the city manager and
[1:13:07] assistant city manager is the appropriate way to do so.
[1:13:10] What I'm saying is that tonight you're asking for a
[1:13:14] decision to place something on the agenda, but that
[1:13:18] specific request hasn't been agendized, so the public isn't aware that that was
[1:13:22] going to be discussed tonight for consideration.
[1:13:24] So now that you have placed it on the table for consideration,
[1:13:28] we can move forward on putting that on agenda for fu- for tu- future
[1:13:32] consideration by the council.
[1:13:35] Uh, that'll satisfy my needs for today. Thank you.
[1:13:39] Okay. Perfect. Anything else?
[1:13:40] Yes.
[1:13:41] Okay.
[1:13:41] One more question. Um, what is the exact,
[1:13:46] you know, or this, this is for the city attorney or the city clerk.
[1:13:49] Can you please clarify whether a recent agenda posting met
[1:13:53] all applicable legal requirements in your office?
[1:13:57] I can answer that, Mayor Pro Tem. Um, if you're referring to tonight's
[1:14:00] agenda and the staff's recommendation and
[1:14:04] direction to pull the consent calendar and the public hearing
[1:14:08] items-
[1:14:09] Correct, yeah
[1:14:10] ... are you speaking tonight?
[1:14:11] No, it was f- when, when we posted the agenda.
[1:14:14] So my, my, my question is, did the serve- Is it...
[1:14:18] Well, maybe this will be a question for the city clerk.
[1:14:20] If you could please clarify whether a recent agenda posting met
[1:14:24] all applicable legal requirements.
[1:14:27] Well, again, I, I will step in because if you're asking for a legal determination,
[1:14:31] that is best answered by the city attorney.
[1:14:34] Are you speaking about tonight's agenda?
[1:14:36] Th- that is correct.
[1:14:37] Tonight's agenda was noticed within the
[1:14:40] 72-hour requirements as required under the government
[1:14:43] code. There are public hearing items
[1:14:47] that were noticed by publication, and those were
[1:14:51] properly noticed. The issue for tonight and why the
[1:14:54] council, we've recommended that council not move forward with
[1:14:58] conducting those items, is that at the time that the
[1:15:01] agenda was posted on the city's website, there are two ways that
[1:15:05] members of the public can obtain the information for the
[1:15:09] meeting. There is a link to a
[1:15:12] PDF version of the agenda and a PDF version of the agenda
[1:15:16] packet. There is also an HTML link to the
[1:15:20] agenda and to the agenda packet. Unfortunately, the
[1:15:24] HTML links to both the agenda and the agenda packet did
[1:15:28] not contain the full information as outlined in the
[1:15:32] agenda for item 8.1, and it didn't contain staff reports,
[1:15:36] resolution ordinances for the consent calendar and for that agenda
[1:15:40] item. So at the 72-hour requirem-
[1:15:43] remark, there was an inconsistency
[1:15:46] between the two versions on the website.
[1:15:49] The issue there is that for purposes of transparency,
[1:15:53] public participation, and meeting the noticing
[1:15:56] requirements, city staff cannot ensure that
[1:16:00] any members of the public who are obtaining information on the website
[1:16:04] can readily see the information that the council was going to
[1:16:08] be presented with tonight. That's the, that's the item
[1:16:12] that, brought this forward for purposes of pulling
[1:16:16] it off for council consideration.
[1:16:18] And so in order to avoid exposing the city to
[1:16:22] potential Brown Act violations or allegations of
[1:16:26] Brown Act violations, that is why those items were
[1:16:29] continued.
[1:16:30] One last question. So
[1:16:33] I would like to confirm whether we are legally required to
[1:16:37] include the HTML in the city meeting
[1:16:40] agendas. Do we have to have that in order to proceed?
[1:16:43] The legal requirement is to have an agenda posted
[1:16:47] 72 hours in advance. The problem here is that the
[1:16:51] method that the city uses is both an HTML version
[1:16:55] and a PDF version, and they are inconsistent.
[1:16:58] They are not the same. So we can't assume that
[1:17:02] all members of the public have access to
[1:17:05] the full version under the PDF link that
[1:17:09] was included on the website. I've also been informed by
[1:17:13] staff that the accessibility
[1:17:17] tools for hearing impaired and visually impaired individuals
[1:17:20] only work with the HTML link. So that creates another
[1:17:24] accessibility problem, from an ADA standpoint that I would
[1:17:28] highly recommend that the city not take that into account in moving the
[1:17:32] item forward.
[1:17:33] I know, but my question is, do we have to have HTML
[1:17:38] in order for the agenda to proceed?
[1:17:40] In this case-
[1:17:42] I mean, in any case. I'm sorry.
[1:17:43] The, the law doesn't require... The law requires that it be posted one way or
[1:17:47] the other. But what matters here is what the chi- city chooses to
[1:17:51] do. The city has chosen to include both an HTML
[1:17:55] version and a PDF. And because of that, in order to maintain
[1:17:58] consistency and transparency, the city's position has
[1:18:02] been that we will not move forward on items if there's any question
[1:18:06] as to the legal validity of an agenda item.
[1:18:10] Okay. That suffice. Thank you.
[1:18:13] Anything else, sir?
[1:18:14] That should do.
[1:18:15] Wonderful. All right, I have something.
[1:18:17] Oh,
[1:18:19] do you need to s-
[1:18:20] Can I still ask a-
[1:18:21] Probably not. Probably wouldn't be a good idea.
[1:18:24] Is it okay if I let her speak?
[1:18:26] The mayor can open up for public comment, but it would be for the entire item
[1:18:29] of other matters.
[1:18:33] Other matters?
[1:18:33] Yeah. Okay. We'll open it up for public comment. Come on forward.
[1:18:37] Okay, my question is relatively simple.
[1:18:40] How did this happen, and how are we gonna ensure this doesn't happen
[1:18:43] again? Because you have an audience full of teenagers who could really
[1:18:47] learn from the actual meat and potatoes of our agenda tonight, and
[1:18:51] instead they just got to see a bunch of awesome awards and some public comment.
[1:18:55] So, like, how did this happen, and how are we gonna make sure it never happens
[1:18:58] again?
[1:19:01] Ooh, who gets to answer that?
[1:19:04] I will start-
[1:19:04] How about you?
[1:19:05] ... on how it had happened. It's...
[1:19:07] I- if we look at our previous agenda items that we've had in the,
[1:19:11] for past council meetings, the HTML version
[1:19:15] ne- always was very, duplicative of what the PDF version
[1:19:19] was. So somewhere, somehow, it... 'Cause w- you, you...
[1:19:22] I had our city clerks, also research our past,
[1:19:26] agendas, and they did not,
[1:19:29] differ. For some reason, whether it was a software
[1:19:33] glitch or something that our software provider, Granicus, is doing some
[1:19:37] updates, it, for this one only, not for the previous, but for this one
[1:19:41] only, it did have, discrepancies on how the,
[1:19:45] HTML, version was being uploaded.
[1:19:48] That is not something that we anticipated, but it happened
[1:19:52] Okay. And then what, does it look like to ensure that this doesn't happen
[1:19:55] again?
[1:19:56] 'Cause honestly, I can... We can cut the tension in the room with a knife right
[1:20:00] now.
[1:20:00] Yeah.
[1:20:00] We can tell
[1:20:02] someone's head might roll, I don't know who, but it feels not okay.
[1:20:06] And I want the kids to understand that this isn't normal.
[1:20:08] So what are we gonna do to make sure this doesn't happen again?
[1:20:11] Well, we're gonna take proper procedures.
[1:20:13] Now, from what has happened, we, we will make sure that now the city clerk's office
[1:20:17] is verifying if we continue. That, that's one of the things that, that even
[1:20:20] Council Member Roque has brought up. Do... Are we required to bring?
[1:20:24] We're not, but we have been.
[1:20:26] Okay.
[1:20:26] So if we just choose to go from the HTML and not post it and just go from-
[1:20:30] So if this is a problem-
[1:20:31] It is
[1:20:31] ... and there's a possibility for it happening again, wouldn't it be wise for
[1:20:35] us to look for a solution sooner rather than later?
[1:20:39] Oh, absolutely.
[1:20:39] Like right now?
[1:20:40] Yep.
[1:20:40] Okay.
[1:20:41] So we are moving forward on how we wanna move forward.
[1:20:44] If, if the fact is, if we still wanna be utilizing HTML and
[1:20:48] the PDF as well, and if we do, then we will make, all
[1:20:52] the assurance that
[1:20:53] as it gets posted, the day it gets posted, to verify that those, both,
[1:20:57] the HTML and the PDF.
[1:20:58] Okay. I feel like that is gonna be...
[1:21:00] Like, how does one person read through 300
[1:21:03] pages? Like, how, how... I guess
[1:21:07] my question is, how are we gonna verify that they're both, they're
[1:21:11] both accurate? That, that seems like...
[1:21:14] I mean, she has so many important things to do. It's an election year.
[1:21:16] Like, I, I don't... I just... I'm trying to grasp how
[1:21:20] that would even work.
[1:21:21] I, I can answer that.
[1:21:22] Okay.
[1:21:22] So that is part of what the city clerk's office does.
[1:21:26] Okay.
[1:21:26] We do sit there every time that we publish an agenda.
[1:21:30] And right before we publish the agenda, we sit there and we
[1:21:34] verify that everything is matching.
[1:21:36] We open up the PDF. If, if it's 500 pages or 1,000 pages, we
[1:21:40] do scroll through every single page to make sure that-
[1:21:43] Mm-hmm
[1:21:43] ... everything matches. In this case, the
[1:21:46] HTML didn't, not
[1:21:49] work and not everything got transferred over, and it is a glitch
[1:21:53] from, Granicus. When we were running our agenda on
[1:21:57] Thursday, they were doing updates in the background, and
[1:22:01] not sure how or why it happened, but all of those staff reports did not get
[1:22:05] pulled over to the HTML version.
[1:22:08] Okay.
[1:22:09] So.
[1:22:11] So, I mean, shoot, I was really hoping to not have to...
[1:22:13] I, I don't wanna look like I'm pointing fingers, but then how did we not catch it?
[1:22:19] Because in the past, when we, when we post the
[1:22:23] agenda-
[1:22:23] Mm-hmm
[1:22:24] ... we typically post the agenda as a PDF version, so
[1:22:28] we focus on making sure that everything that got posted was,
[1:22:32] correct with the PDF version, and we quickly just scrolled
[1:22:35] over through the HTML version, and unfortunately, we didn't
[1:22:39] catch-
[1:22:40] Okay
[1:22:41] ... that portion.
[1:22:41] Okay. That makes sense. So then now going forward, now that we know that this is a
[1:22:44] potential problem, we're gonna focus heavy on that, or are we gonna decide tonight
[1:22:48] to not even use HTML?
[1:22:52] That decision-
[1:22:52] Or HTML-
[1:22:53] ... has not been made if we're gonna-
[1:22:54] Okay
[1:22:54] ... if we're gonna go away from the HTML.
[1:22:56] But if we do stay with that HTML link as well,
[1:23:00] we will make sure that it, it duplicates what the PDF version
[1:23:03] has.
[1:23:04] Okay, 'cause it feels weird that this happened.
[1:23:07] Like, the vibe feels weird, so I just wanted to make sure. Okay.
[1:23:11] Thank you.
[1:23:18] So this is kind of a first for me as well. Um, I'm a little unclear.
[1:23:22] We did the public hearing on the item. Is...
[1:23:26] Will it be brought back up at the next council meeting for
[1:23:30] decision, or what's the next... What's the going...
[1:23:33] I've, I've never seen it split like this.
[1:23:35] So as the mayor stated at, at item 8.1-
[1:23:39] 8.1
[1:23:39] ... this item will be re-noticed. So we're...
[1:23:42] This will move forward. It just has to go through the process again of being
[1:23:46] noticed.
[1:23:47] So is there enough time to notice it for the next council meeting?
[1:23:51] Has that been put in place?
[1:23:53] We're working with staff to make sure that we can get it on the agenda as soon as
[1:23:56] the noticing requirements are met.
[1:23:59] So it's not a con- continuing of the item to the next meeting.
[1:24:02] It's-
[1:24:02] No
[1:24:03] ... a new posting now.
[1:24:04] Correct.
[1:24:05] Okay. All right. Thanks.
[1:24:07] I have a question. Does this qualify for a special
[1:24:09] meeting?
[1:24:11] For consideration at a special meeting?
[1:24:13] Consider... Correct.
[1:24:15] It could as long as the noticing is met.
[1:24:18] I think it can.
[1:24:19] Thank you, and just for clarification, and I wanna make a comment, but I'll make it
[1:24:23] after Ms. Holman.
[1:24:24] Sure.
[1:24:25] I'm sorry. This will be quick and painless. Sure.
[1:24:28] Um, I just... I caught something that you said about the
[1:24:32] HTML version. Before you throw it away, it sounded like it was an
[1:24:36] ADA issue also. So I would really
[1:24:40] encourage the council to not forget that part because we do have
[1:24:43] citizens that need to be able to access
[1:24:47] with ADA issues, and not everybody can open
[1:24:51] PDFs either. So I'm sure that's where way back whenever this
[1:24:55] happened why it happened. So I just wanna encourage you to just remember that
[1:24:59] when you make your decision as a city. That's it.
[1:25:02] Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
[1:25:07] I'd just like to add that with that item, that agenda
[1:25:11] item, there has been multiple meetings.
[1:25:14] There has been multiple discussions with city employees, with city
[1:25:18] manager and assistant city manager, and that's just
[1:25:22] my perspective.
[1:25:23] There's nothing with the residents.
[1:25:28] Is there anyone else who wants to make a comment on this before we
[1:25:32] move it out to the online participants of
[1:25:36] the meeting?
[1:25:38] None? Is there anyone online who wishes to write a public comment on other
[1:25:41] matters?
[1:25:43] And we do not have any comments online, Mayor.
[1:25:45] All right. So seeing none, I will now close the public comment period.
[1:25:50] And I do have an uplifting message at the end of this meeting after all
[1:25:54] of that. I do wanna highlight the response, the amazing
[1:25:58] response to Apricot Valley Elementary School made by our sheriffs,
[1:26:01] our firefighters, our Del Puerto District Ambulance that
[1:26:05] went, and I also wanna commend the school.
[1:26:08] The school did an amazing job in their response and communication,
[1:26:12] helping with parents, helping calm the kids.
[1:26:15] It was just an outstanding job by all, and it shows that we can work together
[1:26:19] in this community to, to provide public safety.
[1:26:23] And West Stan Fire Protection District was there as well.
[1:26:26] They did an amazing job. That was actually the first call our fire department made
[1:26:29] was for backup from West Stan. So I'm really happy to see that collaboration as
[1:26:33] well. So that's all I have. If there's nothing else, we'll move to
[1:26:36] adjournment. May the Lord protect our sheriffs, our firefighters, and all
[1:26:40] first responders. May God bless you. May God bless your families.
[1:26:43] This meeting is concluded.