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Good evening, everybody. Thanks for, uh, thanks for coming. This is the town council regular meeting Wednesday, March 18th, 2026. It's now 7 p.m. Let's, uh, rise for the pledge, Dennis.

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United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under their app, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right,

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so the first item was second item on the agenda is visitors. I have a statement that I make before we hear from visitors.

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During the public comment, the council will listen without reply.

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This approach ensures fairness in order, while showing respect for your input,

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which we value when we consider carefully.

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If a response or an action is needed, based on what you say, the town manager will follow

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after the meeting or the town council will place the matter on a future agenda.

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Without the way many visitors would like to speak.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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If all.

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Please have a seat.

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Thank you.

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Stay in your name and your address, please.

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Okay.

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Name is Paul Millenson.

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I'm chairman of the police commission.

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I live at 10 Old Ocean Road, Clinton.

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Thank you.

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At the Bay of Westview, I'm not a polished public speaker.

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Either way.

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Basically, I want to read that.

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I hope you guys had the lead of the police commission submitted to the town council.

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So I'm basically going to read that into the record, but I'd like to make a few quick

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comments before that.

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It won't take a minute.

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Here today to speak to you about the removal of the school resource officer, SRO position

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from the police department and budget.

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It's not my intent to be confrontational or challenge a decision.

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You're elected representatives who are tasked with making difficult decisions in the best

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interests of the town.

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Firstly, I believe you all do a good job.

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However, I also believe there are some issues or decisions that are best left to the citizens of town by way of their vote.

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My goal today is to help you conclude that the issue of school safety, specifically the full-time SRO position at L.A. Middle School, is one of those issues.

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Now, I'd just like to read the letter into the record.

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Dear members of the town council, as chairman of the Board of Police Commission, I respectfully urge the town council to restore funding for the dedicated school resource officer, SRO position at the L8 middle school and the FY 2627 budget.

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This decision is not simply about funding, it's about whether Clinton maintains that proactive safety posture in our schools.

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The current staffing model has reached its operational limit and no longer represents the responsible

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level of protection for our students, educators, and community.

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The Clinton Police Department is currently operating under a critical single point of failure.

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Once one SRO is expected to serve three separate school campuses, it is unrealistic to expect

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the single officer to effectively support three geographically separate schools while fulfilling

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the full responsibilities of the SRO role.

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Clinton is also significantly under resource

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compared to neighboring communities, while Clinton attempts

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to protect three schools with one SRO,

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Madison employs two SROs along with seven

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additional school security staff,

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Old Saburk, Essex, and Gilford, each deploy three SROs

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across the districts.

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Clinton stands out as operating

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with far fewer school safety resources.

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Beyond security, SROs provide important preventative benefits.

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They build trusted relationships with students, identify emerging concerns early,

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support the juvenile review board, and serve as mentors and positive role models within the school community.

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These early intervention efforts are a key component of modern policing and use support.

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Adding a second school resource officer represents a modest investment

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when distributed across the community with only minimal impact on individual taxpayers.

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Concerning the importance of school safety, Clinton residents should have the opportunity to decide whether staffing

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Elliott Middle School with a dedicated second SRO is a priority for their community.

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For these reasons, the Board of Police Commissioners respectfully request the Town Council restore funding for

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the Elliott Middle School SRO position in the FY 2627 budget.

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the safety of our students, educators, and community must remain a highest priority.

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Thank you for consideration and continued support of the public safety and Clinton.

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And that was what we voted on the last police commission we voted to submit that.

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Let it to you guys.

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The last thing I just say a couple of quick bullet points and then I'll get out of your way.

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I just want to say, like you said, considering school safety, hope is not a method.

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And the financial impact is going to be minimal.

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And I see no harm in letting it go towards the voters decide.

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That's all I have.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other visitors would like to speak?

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I do want to let you know there is a letter that has been submitted for correspondence to be on the record.

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So it's a lengthy letter.

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I'm not going to read it.

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You all received a hard copy of it.

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So it's been received and it will be in the minutes, so anyone in the public that wants to see it will be attached to the minutes as well, and that's from Emily Roy for the record.

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Everybody have that letter?

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All right, approval of the minutes.

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We have two sets of minutes.

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First is the town council regular meeting on Wednesday, March 4th, 2026.

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Do we have a motion to approve those minutes?

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So moved.

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Second?

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Second.

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So moved by Chris Passante, second, Brian Ruffiery.

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All in favor?

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I have.

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Those opposed?

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Stay in the meeting?

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I was.

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I was.

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Tell your one.

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Got it?

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Motion carries with one abstention.

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Thank you.

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Next is approval minutes for our special meeting,

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our special budget meeting on Thursday, March 4, 326.

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So I have a motion to approve those minutes.

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It's, Mary Allen, second jury done.

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All in favor?

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All right.

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I'm staying?

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I think I have to abstain, right?

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And what's up there?

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What's going on?

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Point minutes and reappointments we have done tonight.

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That's right, Mary.

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Correct.

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Line out of transfers.

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You want to speak to those?

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Bob is here tonight to do that.

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Bob, I'm going to call him up.

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Good evening.

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So the first line item transfer would be relating to winter maintenance and

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I think we've

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been talking about this for a while we were waiting basically for the and winter and spring

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forward. It's $125,480, and we're getting it mainly from contingency, and really

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that that's the balance of contingency.

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So this is the pay for snow and plowing and sanding, right?

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That's correct.

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And including sand.

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So you should, you want to go motion line by line on where you want to go all together.

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Maybe we should do them individually.

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So there's a request for a motion, or a motion, I'm asking for a motion to transfer funds from,

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if you see the attachment that he's provided from the contingency fund and from the employer Social Security Contribution Fund of 125,480 to the

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winter maintenance activity fund for over time for snow and ice and snow cloud

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of sanding and salt.

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I'll hear a motion.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Second.

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All in favor?

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Discussion?

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Discussion?

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Discussion?

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Discussion?

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Yes.

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Just want to know that completely wipes out the contingency, makes it down to zero,

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get three more months in the event that something goes wrong, what's our plan?

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We could look at other line items in the budget and see where there's funds that are untapped or unused or that we're coming under budget with, whether it be a salary, some salary line items that may not be used with vacancies.

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I'm assuming we're going to have him sign it. It's not even signed by the department head.

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It was two sheets actually, we've received it afterwards because it's already been purchased.

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It's already been purchased?

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Oh, yeah.

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And that's over time.

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And yes, absolutely.

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Well, we can't not.

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Well, we can't not.

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It's getting warmer.

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Then it's good.

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All right.

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So that end of discussion.

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All in favor?

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All right.

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Opposed?

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The second transfer relates to an amount in the 2526 CIP plan.

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If you remember there was $540,000 approved plan-wise for dredging which is required out of

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that $540,000, there was $40,000 designated for professional services.

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So, that's the only part that we're requesting, and those professional services relate to

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harbor management dredge permitting process.

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In this CIP that was just approved, there was a second 500,000, so we're waiting for July

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1st to actually come to you for a million dollar appropriation for dredging the harbor area.

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But this is $40,000 for a professional service in order to prepare for the dredging.

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So we would have then a million, 40,000 available after this line-up.

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After this line of transfer, I'm only asking for 40,000.

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There's a million in the plan that has not been approved.

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We're waiting to July to approve the million for the actual dredging.

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They'll get a bit amount.

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So we know exactly how much it is if it's 950,000, that's what we're going to ask for.

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This is just for the 40,000 professional services relating to dredging.

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There's requirements for remitting and all these work, all the work that has to be done to lead up to be eligible for the dredging.

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And where's the other million coming from?

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The other million would be relating to the million four that we appropriated last year relating to the

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the East sidewalk project.

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So in other words, basically what we did was, if you remember,

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you appropriated 1.4 million because you're concerned

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that we didn't have the funds for the sidewalk project

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because the federal grant was a reimbursement grant.

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So in actuality, once that sidewalk project is done,

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we have a million four of which 300,000

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is a town contribution to the grant.

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So we'll have a million one.

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But we're not going to get back 1.4 from that project.

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Right.

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We'll get 1.1.

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Well, not exactly, but around that.

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Around that.

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And when will we get that?

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It's already coming in.

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I mean, as we spend it, we get it.

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Right.

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Yeah, it's not it.

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As we get it, we get it that quarter.

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And in the CIP plan, for this year, we had $500,000

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in there for balance of the right. It's a million dollars to drive.

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And did we put 500,000 side last year?

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Yes.

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Right, but it's just a plan.

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The only thing that's approved in the CIP plan is the fund 60 column and the end column

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which is those small amounts that we did in the department's budget.

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That's the only thing that's appropriated.

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Otherwise, everything else in there, bonding, everything else, you just approved as a plan.

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We have to come back and get an appropriation.

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Same thing for dredging.

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So the million's going to be from reimbursement of the 1.4 project?

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Yes.

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We have a million already put aside.

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So on my books, I have a grant fund, 1.4 million.

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The revenues are from the grant and the expansion is approved because we accept the grant.

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Last year the town council approved a million in the CIP fund 60 line item to fund it.

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So we have two 1.4 million.

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If you remember, we thought that money was going to come back

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reverse years later.

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We didn't think we were going to get the money right away.

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And so we said, we better fund this sidewalk thing,

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and then we'll get 80% was coming back from the state,

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and we said, who knows when we're going to get it.

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But it turns out, we got it.

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Well, we'll get it.

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We're not going to ask for the million until next fiscal year.

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I can't allocate the money.

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But by the time that we get to the next fiscal year,

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where we have to pay for the drudging, the drudging now.

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No. No. This is just $40,000 for the...

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No, no, I'm saying, but I understand that, but...

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When will the dredge occur next, next, next winter? This summer, on next summer, 20, 20, 20, 20, 27. So it's going to be a while till we come back. No, it's in the, it's in the fall, I believe. We'll know more once you get the permitting and everything done.

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It makes sense to me to put the word of thanks for the explanation. All right, motion to move $40,000 from the CIP revaluation line item to the CIP harbor management dredging permitting

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being serviced line item, $40,000.

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I hear a motion.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Sorry, discussion.

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I guess we had it.

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Thanks, yeah.

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Staying motion carries.

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Thank you.

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The next line item is a line item between within the department,

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which is the Building Maintenance Department.

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The booting maintenance over time needs to be funded additionally.

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It actually matches in prior years, we appropriated 10,000.

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In prior years we needed a 10,000 to, it relates to the activities at the town hall.

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On the revenue side, you know, we get the revenues on the revenue side.

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You won't see that applied to this account.

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We do have money in salaries because there was an open position.

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Motion to transfer from the line item,

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town hall maintenance, salaries to town hall maintenance over time.

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Do I hear a motion?

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So, Jerry.

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Second.

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Dennis, all the favor?

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Can I ask you a question?

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I'm sorry.

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I've asked it before, but I forgot.

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Over time, we pay for it, rather than the people who are-

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No, they do know I asked it before.

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I know I asked it before.

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I want that side again. No, no, no, no, that's okay.

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Let's go on the one who wanted to carry.

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But did we increase this year,

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budget to foresee stuff like this happening again?

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I mean, what's all this extra use, I guess,

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that increase the council or activities? I understand what?

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Well, I need over time, I guess.

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because when there's events here on Saturdays or Sunday during the day and we

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don't have a custodian they have to they pay for the custodian the groups

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that are coming to rent the space so we do get revenue from it but we can't

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transfer from the revenue to this it on this on the ledger that's not how

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the revenues of a budget went up correspondingly so we're doing yes yes so the

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revenue did go up you did corresponding take care yes and plus

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we filled

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of the position as well, which helps, and it's a Florida.

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And the new position is hours or Tuesday through Saturday.

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So the Saturday we now have someone on staff from 7 to 3.30, straight time, exactly.

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I mean, there will still be some overtime come the summer because this individual part of

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their responsibilities is the beach and working with parks and rec.

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So that's their busy season, but it should definitely have a positive impact on lowering

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So we're going to have to be maintenance wise.

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So making sure like the batch house and things like that,

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that's going to be part of his routine

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to check and make sure that everything's up and running.

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That's something new with part.

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Part can refuse to have a part time person who used to do that.

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So that position is being eliminated

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and this position is becoming a full time position.

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So we're through discussion.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Mr. Stain, motion carries unanimously.

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Last line item transfer relates to legal, and just like we mentioned, there is no money in contingency anymore, so we did have to find other accounts, and I guess we're fortunate that there are some vacancies and some salary accounts, and we're able to request a transfer from those line items, and you see those line items.

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there. One is IT, we've had an open position, human services, there's been an open position,

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and then the fringe benefits relating to them.

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Yeah, it's a tech, it's like, I don't want to say deputy, it's like, it's a tech position

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that's been vacant, so the IT director has been getting a stipend to do the additional duties,

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So, this position has been vacant, so there's the savings there, and then the human services is the clinician position, which has just been challenging.

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We've increased the salary to be actually a little bit above market, but it's just out there quite honestly, it's hard to find people.

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So, that position has vacant.

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Michelle, is that IT position carrying over to the budget we're talking about now?

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remain in there. So it's in the budget that's being proposed but it is an option. It was

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an option to be adjusted. It's been very hard to replace. It's not the hourly rate really

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is not competitive. So what is it? Is there a specific amount of time where you go in and

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And if, like I say, legal is over budget, is it when you get invoices and we can't pay it?

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Like, is it month, you know, quarterly, it's, it's by, it's by a total line item, by department, by month, that's part.

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You mean when the invoices come in?

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So, like, so the reason we need to make this transfers because presumably we have $125,000

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worth of bills that we don't have money in the account.

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It's forecast, it's forecast.

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It's for, yeah, he pays them.

321
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There is, there is a deficit right now.

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If we waited to your end, it will be 125.

323
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Right. So, so what I'm asking is, like, how do you determine when to, to go in and

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make transfers? Like, is it, is it quarterly, monthly?

325
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Is there a plan? Are you just sort of wait till it gets to a certain level?

326
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No, I don't think there's any certain timing as I keep an eye on the bottom line of the actual department to make sure that's not over-span tennis.

327
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I mean, certain times depends on the accounts we wait.

328
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You know, I wasn't quite sure with legal if it was just the case right now and then things will smooth out.

329
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And, you know, I'm like, do I ask for $7,500 to the fiscal year end, $125 is $125 enough.

330
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How much did you budget originally?

331
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125.

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125 and it looks like it's going to be 250.

333
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Right.

334
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And then it was 250 the prior year as well.

335
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So we thought that maybe we could get it down and it turns out we did.

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What do we budget for next?

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What's in our next budget?

338
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Oh boy.

339
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What was it?

340
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One 15 hopes of that there were no union contracts next year.

341
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There were some tax appeals that lasted over beyond a year, and they were over, so we're just hoping activity will decrease.

342
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How many years with legal expenses in?

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A significant amount in FOIAs.

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I mean, we have over $20,000 in FOIAs alone, which we're averaging one a week.

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What is Ryan and Ryan doing?

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It's our labor attorney.

347
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So they do the union contracts.

348
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So that maybe we won't see next year?

349
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We won't see the contracts. We did three. We did have some labor matters that had to be addressed and handled.

350
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And a lot and quite a few actually were prior to even my time in Bob's time.

351
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We have some planning and zoning issues that are still out there, assessment appeals and tax issues.

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Some of them, they take a long time to get resolves and litigations, which are I think

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a result.

354
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What was the FOIA request last year?

355
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Was it this cover?

356
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I don't know if we did a breakdown this way last year.

357
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I think there was a breakdown.

358
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I don't recall.

359
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I don't remember.

360
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I don't remember.

361
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It was an overage.

362
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Yeah, we had allocated for way to almost the same thing last year.

363
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Yeah.

364
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It brings to mind is, you know, things like our legal bills,

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right back to where, three or four years ago,

366
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we used to budget for $2.25, $2.30.

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And then all of a sudden, we decided, oh no, we can only,

368
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we can get away with $1.25.

369
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Well, we can't get away with 1.25, so why do we even think that and do that imaginary

370
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fake 1.25 number when consistently we're going up to 2.25 now, like 3, 4, 5 years

371
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in a row?

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Well, certainly hoping, at least with the union contracts, we know there's going to be no

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expenses for that except for any, you know, and how about these ones?

374
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Well, when you look at, well, those are, when you look at the, some of the descriptions,

375
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you know, there's some things on here that quite honestly just were, you can't predict.

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Obviously, a foyer's you can't predict.

377
00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:28,320
There are some issues with the legal, with the ballots that were in election matter.

378
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Any time ordinances you want, ordinances reviewed?

379
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,020
Can you predict the zoning stuff or no?

380
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No, because you don't know if someone's going to appeal a decision.

381
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Okay.

382
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We also did a lot of trainings, which are one time.

383
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So we had all of our elected boards and officials undergo training.

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Code of ethics.

385
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,880
There's a lot of things that we did update that, you know,

386
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do take time in multiple times of reviewing and redlining and.

387
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,320
Yeah, I mean, you see the appeals.

388
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,360
There's a lot of zoning matters, the addresses are all there.

389
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:18,630
Well, I agree with Dennis's point, but I guess that's the whole concept of budgeting, right?

390
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So you have to make a put a number out there.

391
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And what I'm saying is a different point of maybe we should have some sort of financial controls

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in place that says any time we exceed our budget by 50,000 we need to make line transfer

393
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because we're going to have the same issue with the human resource. Hopefully we don't

394
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have the same issue. We have the same accounting method with the human resources position

395
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that we're facing. Is there waiting? I don't think so. We can engage the lawyers like on a retainer

396
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so that it would be more predictable?

397
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They're out of retainer, but if it's under the retainer,

398
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they bill us as.

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And then if it's over, they stop at the retainer.

400
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But there's certain things that are not included

401
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:10,930
that are just matters that aren't.

402
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And some of these are attorneys that were,

403
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:15,710
some of these zoning matters were left

404
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:18,150
with the prior attorneys because they were already

405
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in litigation and handling it.

406
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,780
What's the line item for the adopted charter revision 11, 2023?

407
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:37,840
23. It's under Milano and wanted for $2,200. It's from 1123. I'm not sure exactly which one

408
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,500
that one is. No, I know. I don't know. Bob, do you have any? No, I mean, I can find out

409
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,320
exactly which one that one is. Bob went through and tried to categorize them.

410
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,860
These invoice numbers, 15, 657. Yeah. Matters. It could be checks on. Yeah, we could check on that.

411
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:56,560
I mean, it certainly can go back to the invoice and find it.

412
00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:57,080
Yeah, absolutely.

413
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:06,000
All right, so I think I went out or again, I think maybe we did the discussion before the motions, but we'll try to do it.

414
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:17,740
Right, so this is a line item transfer from various salaries and fringe benefits to legal in the amount of $125,000.

415
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,920
Do I have a motion for the transfer?

416
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,400
So moved.

417
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:23,580
Second.

418
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:25,100
Second.

419
00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:31,620
Brian and Carrie discussion any any more discussion? All in favor?

420
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:34,020
Aye. Aye. Opposed?

421
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:36,580
I abstain?

422
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Motion carries, you know, and that's it for the next

423
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,340
is the finance report.

424
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,340
Janius had turned on the TV.

425
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,480
Yeah, it was on. I don't know. I don't know why it's off.

426
00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:09,500
Oh, he's on here. Yeah, I'll probably turn it off off. Which one is it?

427
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:09,940
The red one.

428
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:10,860
Red is it?

429
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,360
I don't know.

430
00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:24,070
Positions be.

431
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:24,870
It hasn't been stated.

432
00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:26,610
Where's my connection?

433
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:35,160
We'll talk about the report first.

434
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
That's in front of you, dated March 18th, 2026.

435
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:47,040
I'll just go over the items that are different from the prior month, for the most part, everything's

436
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:48,660
been the same.

437
00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:57,100
If you look at the General Fund Fund Bounce Report, the only thing different on that from

438
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,980
and prior fund bounce reports is that-

439
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,480
We've put in the amount reserved for the million dollars use of unbounce in this budget coming up once we do that, then we're predicting that at the end of this fiscal year, June 30th, 2026, the unassigned fund bounce would represent 21 percent of total budget. So we're close to 20 percent. I think that's even rounding 21, it's even lower, it's like 20.6 percent. Right, that's pretty tight. That is right.

440
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:35,720
So we're pretty tight actually the budgets are getting tighter there's nothing wrong with the tight budget

441
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,520
There's nothing wrong with sweating it right is it's you know if you're not it's not tight budget then

442
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,480
I guess we're not being that responsible. So the on the side fund balance to repeat what you said to make sure it's clear

443
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:53,320
It's 14 million 176 598 the estimate. Yeah, which is roughly 21% yeah, our budget of about 68

444
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:58,650
So really that's the the only change there

445
00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:04,410
except for I added the report upon request and, you know, I'll be adding that quarterly.

446
00:31:04,550 --> 00:31:10,290
We have added this report. It's the CIP fund 60, and it's the line item detail.

447
00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:20,970
It's on page 17. And that reports the projects that the town council approved in the first column of the CIP.

448
00:31:20,970 --> 00:31:25,270
And that's page 17,

449
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fun 60, town slash board of ed, capital projects.

450
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,840
You have the budget amounts on the left hand column that were approved in the budget process.

451
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,420
And then you have a second to last column, you have year-to-date expenses, and then

452
00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:46,100
more importantly, available balance.

453
00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:51,680
Typically at fiscal year end, I go over those available bounces and inquire from the

454
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,420
departments is if the project has been finished.

455
00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:03,460
If you remember, a lot of these line items also reserve accounts, specifically for the

456
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:08,560
fire department, we have, you'll see line items there for apparatus, but they're there

457
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,100
to save up over the years until we get to a certain point where we can purchase an apparatus

458
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,520
when we plan to purchase it.

459
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,980
So there are some reserve accounts there as well.

460
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:26,500
As you can see, at the very top, there's the 1.4 million sidewalk appropriation.

461
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:32,100
And like I said, there is another appropriation for 1.4 million in the grant fund.

462
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,700
So that 1.4 million will become available.

463
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:48,420
I do have the Board of Ed did give me detail on their line on them, so I'll pass that

464
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out.

465
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,560
It's a little small.

466
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,740
You can have to get your goggles on.

467
00:32:52,960 --> 00:33:00,050
But these are there so I can approve that object, and these are the items that are still

468
00:33:00,050 --> 00:33:07,410
So I'm going to announce in the yellow of the projects that are finished, and there was

469
00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:13,250
a massive available world actually going to keep them in the council, they won't be in

470
00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:14,710
the appropriation, and they won't be spent.

471
00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:22,390
I'm sorry.

472
00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:29,330
So if I cancel that appropriation, so there's no authority to spend, it goes into fund 60 fund

473
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balance for the time period.

474
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:34,830
So, you said the ones that are yellow highlighted?

475
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:40,830
Yellow highlighted those items you see in the description column that they were savings.

476
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:44,030
The project came under what they thought.

477
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:46,290
Those are amounts not used.

478
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Oh, okay.

479
00:33:55,700 --> 00:34:00,140
So, you'll see your reserve accounts for the police fleet relating to their lease vehicles,

480
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,860
so we have money available there.

481
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Fire department, like I said, there's reserve accounts there.

482
00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:13,420
I like to say typically at fiscal year end I meet with the department heads and if they

483
00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:19,900
say the projects over I close and you'll no longer see an appropriation on this report

484
00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:24,140
and the funds fall just like the general fund into fund amounts.

485
00:34:35,650 --> 00:34:41,050
So in the June time period I can come back to the town council and report on those lion

486
00:34:41,050 --> 00:34:44,850
and items representing projects that are complete with

487
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:45,730
amounts still available.

488
00:34:55,530 --> 00:34:58,450
Another point to make that unassigned fund balance of 14

489
00:34:58,450 --> 00:35:01,710
million, 176, we're right around 20 percent.

490
00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:04,870
So next year when we do the budget, and if it goes up,

491
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:08,010
say, 3 percent from 68 million to 70 million,

492
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:13,590
we're going to have to put money aside to keep that at 20 percent.

493
00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:15,730
It's going to, we're actually going to put money in the

494
00:35:15,730 --> 00:35:18,730
rainy day fund for the first time in a long time.

495
00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:23,870
Yeah, unless we have bounces less than the general fund,

496
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:28,730
which fall into, so for instance, it could be a year

497
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:30,970
where the Board of Ed comes and asks for non-lapsing

498
00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:34,650
monies and it's a year that possibly we don't do that

499
00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:36,830
because we will need an amount to fall into fund

500
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,990
bounce to keep a 20% fund bounce.

501
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:42,710
So, you know, we might get away next year

502
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:45,850
without having to put it in, but then the following year.

503
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:46,390
Right.

504
00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:54,590
that's if we keep it at 20 right yeah I'm trying to follow this so on the back

505
00:35:54,590 --> 00:36:02,550
on this board of ed one so you're saying that right now they have 299,228

506
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:08,790
dollars that they did not spend that we allocated it in a different CIP project let

507
00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:21,030
Yeah, so they have a balance of 299,000 of which for them there are two-year projects.

508
00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:23,370
So they haven't completed a lot of these projects.

509
00:36:24,070 --> 00:36:26,310
So it's a balance yet to be spent.

510
00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:31,050
That yellow highlights are the balances that they know they're not going to spend because

511
00:36:31,050 --> 00:36:32,730
the project's over and they've had savings.

512
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:35,030
About 30,000.

513
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:41,410
Right. So there's, I noticed, there's a lot of projects on that list that says a two-year span.

514
00:36:42,490 --> 00:36:48,450
So then a lot of times you'll see them requesting an amount for computer and technology.

515
00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:53,710
They may be saving an amount so they come up to a certain amount so they can actually purchase

516
00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:56,230
what they need for the computer technology.

517
00:36:57,470 --> 00:37:00,910
So all those accounts are still active except for the yellow highlights.

518
00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:01,510
It

519
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:11,930
seems like a lot of money is sitting there.

520
00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:17,290
I just thought that somehow we could apply to issues

521
00:37:17,290 --> 00:37:20,490
CIP for this budget, but I guess we can't,

522
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:24,770
not until we know these two-year projects are right.

523
00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:27,790
Any money sitting there, the general fund

524
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:28,650
is making the interest.

525
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:30,990
Yeah, well, yeah.

526
00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:35,450
Just so you know, I mean, I don't have to tell you about it.

527
00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:38,330
We're looking for every dime we can this year to try to,

528
00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:38,970
And,

529
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:44,690
you know, I'm talking about it.

530
00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:44,970
All

531
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:51,030
right, now where is my report?

532
00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:01,370
So that's it for the report.

533
00:38:01,790 --> 00:38:07,070
And now in front of you that you have the, we'll just go over the financial statements

534
00:38:07,070 --> 00:38:08,250
a little bit.

535
00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:13,930
In front of you, you have an excerpt as up to 20 pages.

536
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:16,970
The financial statements themselves are 161 pages.

537
00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:21,410
I picked the ones that are the most informative, I guess the most interesting.

538
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:26,110
Now, if I can find out where it is,

539
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:34,750
I must have, but it was, wasn't it, a PDF?

540
00:38:35,790 --> 00:38:36,770
Yes, it was a PDF.

541
00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:38,190
I don't see a PDF on the bottom.

542
00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:40,430
It was from E-mail.

543
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:47,800
Email?

544
00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:53,530
Oh, there we go.

545
00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:55,290
No, that's not it.

546
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:55,850
No,

547
00:38:58,570 --> 00:38:59,090
that's not it.

548
00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:01,170
No, that's not it.

549
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:02,250
Yeah, I know.

550
00:39:02,530 --> 00:39:02,890
Sorry.

551
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:04,750
All right.

552
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:05,910
Well, let's go through the report.

553
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:14,390
What we've got, we've got the report in front of us, this is the report for the fiscal year ending June 30 of 2025.

554
00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:20,310
You know, just generally, you're going to find, right?

555
00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:20,610
Yes.

556
00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:30,690
Generally, municipal accounting, governmental accounting, there's no difference from commercial accounting, small business accounting.

557
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:39,690
We have the same reports, we have the same general entry manuals, we have the same general

558
00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:40,190
ledges.

559
00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:49,890
There's just a few differences because obviously commercial companies are profit motivated

560
00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:57,450
and municipalities obviously we're concentrating on the inflows and outflows for governmental

561
00:39:57,450 --> 00:39:58,050
purposes.

562
00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:04,510
So that's the difference, and there's a few different accounting entries, but for the

563
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:06,330
most part we're the same.

564
00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:14,010
The major difference is, in governmental accounting, we account by funds.

565
00:40:16,090 --> 00:40:20,150
Funds are treated like a separate set of books, they have their own separate general ledgers,

566
00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:27,190
and the nice thing about funds is it's compartmentalizing the accounting of the government.

567
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:29,130
It makes it kind of like easier to see.

568
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:32,990
Major fund being the general fund, which is our budget.

569
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:37,390
Each fund has a specific purpose, specific inflows,

570
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:39,910
revenues, and specific expenditures,

571
00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:41,730
specific reason for spending.

572
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:46,790
General fund is for reports on the government's major operations.

573
00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:49,330
That's what we talk about all the times.

574
00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:51,810
Major operations, it's the public works,

575
00:40:52,090 --> 00:40:55,910
expenditures, it's the public safety, human services.

576
00:40:55,910 --> 00:41:04,410
But then we have other funds like grant funds, and that reports grant activity, and it's for a special purpose, right?

577
00:41:04,610 --> 00:41:08,530
A grant is for a specific purpose, and that's what that fund is for a specific purpose.

578
00:41:08,730 --> 00:41:15,910
We have another major fund is a capital project fund, so any capital project is in a capital project fund,

579
00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:24,970
specific flows of revenues, mainly bond proceeds or grants, and the expenditure is obviously for a capital project.

580
00:41:24,970 --> 00:41:36,050
So, fund reporting almost when you look at these financial statements makes it kind of more understandable because it's, like I said, segmented.

581
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:44,230
I start with that because you'll see a financial statement in the beginning of the financial statements.

582
00:41:44,850 --> 00:41:53,510
We have a governmental financial accounting board which makes rules just like commercial companies has FASB financial accounting standards board.

583
00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:59,030
I'm almost going to say like five years ago they changed a rule but no it's 25 years ago.

584
00:42:00,090 --> 00:42:05,850
And what they did was they said look we want a financial statement in front of the main

585
00:42:05,850 --> 00:42:11,610
financials and we're going to call it government wide or town wide and what we want you to do

586
00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:15,710
is add up all the funds together and put it into a financial statement.

587
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:20,070
Back then all the financials directors went nuts.

588
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:26,590
It didn't make sense and it's in front.

589
00:42:26,830 --> 00:42:33,790
So when you open up your financial stamps and you see that, you're kind of like, wow, education, 70 million.

590
00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:36,610
Well, I thought I budgeted 36 million.

591
00:42:37,210 --> 00:42:38,870
So it's a little confusing.

592
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:47,730
So, if you go to, we're starting off with the basic financial statements, the very first one, and it's on the screen here.

593
00:42:48,610 --> 00:42:56,250
The very first one is called government activities. It's actually the balance sheet for the town, but it's everything combined.

594
00:42:56,530 --> 00:43:00,830
All the funds combined, it's the general fund, it's the grants, it's the capital projects combined.

595
00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:06,770
What do you, as a financial statement, read it. What do you get out of it?

596
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:16,350
Well, on this first page, I can see the capital assets, I can see the amount or the amount

597
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:19,910
invested in capital assets, so that's useful, it's all in one place.

598
00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:28,150
And I'm going to go to the next one, which is the income statement, and we call that statement

599
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:34,510
of net position, I'm sorry, that's on page 4, I find this interesting.

600
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:40,390
So, the the the income statement for the townwide financial statements, which is on your

601
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:45,910
page, it doesn't have a page number, it doesn't, no, it doesn't, but it's right after page

602
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:47,550
three, so I guess it's page four.

603
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:56,050
Government activities, statement of activities, is kind of a neat presentation of all the

604
00:43:56,050 --> 00:43:58,270
town revenues and all the expenditures.

605
00:43:58,490 --> 00:44:00,450
And the way it's presented is very interesting, right?

606
00:44:00,450 --> 00:44:05,510
Left-hand side is by function, so we've got general government, public safety, public

607
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:06,750
works, planning, development.

608
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:10,210
Very first column are the expenditures for that year.

609
00:44:11,050 --> 00:44:13,250
Now remember, this is all other funds, right?

610
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:18,550
So there's our expenditures, so for public safety, 6.4 million.

611
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:23,050
If you look in the public safety general fund, it's not 6.4 million, right?

612
00:44:23,170 --> 00:44:28,930
So obviously we have some grant funds relating to public safety, you know, so this is the combined.

613
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:38,730
Then you see three columns program revenues, revenues that those functions bring in.

614
00:44:39,210 --> 00:44:47,430
So for instance public safety charges for services, $114,000 and if you move over to the next

615
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:51,890
two columns, $738,000 for public safety grants.

616
00:44:53,250 --> 00:44:57,770
So where does this leave us, the very last column, well, we're negative 5.6 million, where

617
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:58,630
does that money come from?

618
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:06,640
So you can see down, down, middle of the page, general revenues, right?

619
00:45:10,050 --> 00:45:32,470
So all of these government programs on the left hand side run a deficit, right? Obviously, right? Because charges for services only add up to 2.4 million out of the 69 million expenses, operating grants add up to 13 million, and then capital grants add up to 2.7 million, leaving a deficit of 50 million. Where do we get that from? You see below property

620
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:38,290
taxes, general grants, income from investments, right?

621
00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:44,330
So it's a big, big summary, but it's interesting, right, because we see the types of

622
00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:47,870
expenditures that municipalities have and where is the money coming from.

623
00:45:48,610 --> 00:45:53,890
That's what I get from this financial statement that they kind of like forced us all to do.

624
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:59,670
So I changed that position actually went up, we're worth more a year later, by about $4 million.

625
00:45:59,670 --> 00:46:04,150
dollars. Right. That was, I was just about to say that. Another very interesting thing

626
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:09,270
is I always look at that net position, which is another word for fun balance, overall.

627
00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:13,910
And if it's going up, it tells me that the town is investing in itself and doing the

628
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:14,310
right thing.

629
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:20,430
Since I've been here, I've never seen it while I've only had, I've looked

630
00:46:20,430 --> 00:46:25,770
at the other finished stames. We've been going up progressively. The towns that are in trouble

631
00:46:25,770 --> 00:46:29,350
look at that for our statements, you know, the, you know, the West Havens and the

632
00:46:30,450 --> 00:46:31,750
Hamdons, it's going down.

633
00:46:32,610 --> 00:46:34,430
So that's one thing I get out of this.

634
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:35,290
That's valuable.

635
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:38,990
So what's the counting change charge for a million bucks?

636
00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:39,830
Do you know what that is?

637
00:46:40,030 --> 00:46:40,430
The counting change?

638
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,720
I can find out what that was.

639
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,420
It's tough question, huh?

640
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,420
Yeah.

641
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:52,560
It was an accounting pronouncement, and I can't remember what the subject was, but it's

642
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,040
in the detail, by the way.

643
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:55,640
Okay.

644
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,240
Okay, so if we go to the next page, now we get to the financial statements that I

645
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,900
used to, and it's by fund, and that's page five, happens to be the balance sheet.

646
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,600
And this is broad categories.

647
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:17,260
Obviously, the general fund is a fund, capital projects is a fund, but the other governmental

648
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:20,620
funds column is a combination of funds, and we'll go look at them.

649
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:31,360
They appear at the end of the financial statements, but I think you were asking about the other funds interested in the other funds and we'll see those other funds tonight.

650
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,260
And under the, I've highlighted under the general fund column, you see the unassigned fund balance of 15.1 million.

651
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:41,140
If

652
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,660
we go to the next page, page five, same funds, but it's the income statement.

653
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,660
Income statement here is called Statement of Revenues, Expansions and Changes and Fund

654
00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:55,000
Bounce.

655
00:47:56,380 --> 00:48:03,480
I highlight under the general column intergovernmental revenues and education expenditures because that's

656
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,640
another confusing thing.

657
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,580
Education didn't spend 42 million in the general fund.

658
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:15,200
The difference is the state pays five plus million dollars for the teacher's pension.

659
00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:23,220
So we're required to add that to the education expenses, and we offset it above intergovernmental

660
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,740
revenues.

661
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:28,100
That's five of the 12, what's the rest?

662
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:28,920
ECS?

663
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,540
Five of the 12, we'll see that when we get to the budget detail.

664
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,160
It's all our state revenue grants, and we'll see the detail later.

665
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:43,300
But it's just it's just nice to know that in that education amount is 5 million relating to the

666
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,920
State payment of teachers pensions

667
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Next one is just an example of another type of fund for douchey funds and that's how

668
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,680
funds that hold monies for others

669
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:06,000
Right, it's not the town's funds. So a pension fund. We know we're holding money for employees for when they retire

670
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,960
It says pension and op-ed trust funds, but mainly it's pension.

671
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:17,600
We don't have much in our op-ed fund because we don't have exposure to retiree benefits.

672
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,720
There aren't many in this town, which is positive, actually.

673
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,040
No financial pressures in that area.

674
00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:30,420
But you can see that the pension and op-ed trust hold 28 million.

675
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:38,320
If you go to the next page, page 8, it's the income statement for the pension and trust funds.

676
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:46,620
You can see the contributions by the employer, plan members, and the investment earnings.

677
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,560
So when you look at the total additions to the fund, it was 5.3.

678
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,660
And it's nice to see that it benefits so much lower than that, right?

679
00:49:56,660 --> 00:50:09,440
Right? So the additions to the pension fund, which are employee contributions, employee contributions and investments, exceed the benefits paid out by over $2 million.

680
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,520
Where does that $2 million go? It goes into the pension fund bounce.

681
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,100
But that's not change in fair value. Those investments can go up and down. That's just a snapshot.

682
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:23,980
Yeah, well, yeah, the income statement, the balance sheets are snapshot in time.

683
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:29,520
The income statement is from the beginning of fiscal year to the end of the fiscal year.

684
00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:30,320
But yeah.

685
00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:35,000
Well, we see a reduction in the employee contribution now that the police department went to a state front.

686
00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:36,000
You will. Yeah.

687
00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:36,420
Yeah.

688
00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:40,580
Yeah. In another part of the financial statements, in the footnotes, there is information on the state pension.

689
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Okay.

690
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:41,380
Yeah.

691
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:48,040
Which we don't control, but there is information because that number will go down.

692
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:53,240
So will the net position and there will be next year a note referring to that so people don't

693
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,520
misunderstand.

694
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,500
Yeah. Page nine, so after the financial statements, just like any financial statements,

695
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,000
you have notes to the financial statements and those notes explain mostly everything.

696
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,100
I just picked one note, a note that's a topic all the time.

697
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,080
Before we go on to that, can we go back to Jerry's question?

698
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:21,040
So when that gets moved off to go to Seamers, our net position, we have a certain amount

699
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,900
to put aside for the liability, and then we have the liability on our balance sheet, too.

700
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,280
Are we in a negative or a net positive?

701
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,380
Were underfunded?

702
00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:37,120
Where 60 percent funded, and the actuaries, I think we amitized over 20 years, that 60 percent

703
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,700
funded is planned to go to 100 percent in the future.

704
00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:41,720
Yeah, someday.

705
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,360
And when we make the move to the Seamers,

706
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,420
is there any change in that?

707
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,400
Or were still six?

708
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,280
It was, I think it went from 60 to 63.

709
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:52,780
Okay.

710
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:53,760
It's a little bit.

711
00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:56,300
So it's for the most part the same.

712
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:56,680
Yeah.

713
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Thanks.

714
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000
So on page nine is an example of a footnote

715
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,740
and it gives detail of our bonds.

716
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,660
You could see I've highlighted the additions.

717
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:11,160
Remember in January 30th,

718
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:19,720
2025, we issued 2.15 million in bonds, here it's a general purpose bonds and school bonds.

719
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,820
You'll see various types, namely bonds and refunding bonds.

720
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,760
Refunding bonds are just like refunding a mortgage, right?

721
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,560
So I have an issue, maybe I've had it for five years, it's a 20-year issue, and all the sudden

722
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,460
interest rates go down, we can refinance or refund to lower amounts.

723
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:44,320
And that's what we do, anytime we have the opportunity.

724
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,720
So you can see quite a few refunding bonds

725
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,360
amongst those normal bonds.

726
00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:52,500
And it depends on the interest rate.

727
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,440
So we know interest rates are going down a bit.

728
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,440
There could be a possibility of refunding and saving

729
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,200
as money here.

730
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,320
I usually get the go ahead.

731
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,280
We have a bond advisor, which is in Madison.

732
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,820
So they let us know when the best time is to do that.

733
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,820
But we're always looking to do it.

734
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,640
Go to the next page, page 9.

735
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:21,900
It's just another footnote, but it shows you the...

736
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,720
Sorry.

737
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:24,180
Sorry to go back on your last word.

738
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:24,680
Yeah, go ahead.

739
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,840
So in the interest rate column, like for example, the very first one,

740
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,800
refunding bonds under general-purpose bonds, it's between two and five percent.

741
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,440
You have a variety of interest rates because at different times the bonds were...

742
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,880
Right, fine.

743
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,800
So you'll try to find the high ones, like the five percent,

744
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,120
and if you have an opportunity to refinance that, you will, and get a lower interest.

745
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:49,740
Right, so our bonds are serial bonds, so you can go out on the market and buy municipal

746
00:53:49,740 --> 00:53:53,940
bonds and you can just get a five-year one or ten-year, so they're serial bonds.

747
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:59,440
So each year, let's just say one-twenty-a-th of it, matures, right?

748
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,320
Now the bonds, twenty-years, they're obviously going to pay a higher interest rate, right?

749
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,660
So sometimes when we refund, we'll refund the whole issue, if it makes sense, or sometimes

750
00:54:10,660 --> 00:54:15,980
will refund and it's complicated will pluck out years from a bond issue and

751
00:54:15,980 --> 00:54:21,040
just refund those amounts that make sense. So it does get a little complicated but

752
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,720
yes that's what we do. Sorry to interrupt. So the next one is just another foot

753
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:33,940
note and it just shows the maturity amounts each year and the the interest and

754
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:39,020
you could see maturity amounts actually goes up a little bit and then goes down.

755
00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:46,240
And it goes up because of, you know, just refunding that sometimes a mouse gets switched

756
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:51,260
between years and you would think it would continue to go down, but it does go up until

757
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:57,680
2031 and then it starts going down and it dramatically goes down 2037.

758
00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:03,920
And that's our annual principle only and then the interest is over to the road.

759
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:11,320
So there's your total payment, and the total amount of debt to touch in, it doesn't

760
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,380
significantly retire until, like you said, 2037.

761
00:55:20,170 --> 00:55:27,350
The next page is under-required supplementary information, and this is of interest to most

762
00:55:27,350 --> 00:55:28,030
people as well.

763
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:30,830
It's a general fund, and basically it's the budget.

764
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:36,730
So it shows the original budget, any transfers, final budget, and actual amount, and the

765
00:55:36,730 --> 00:55:37,690
variance with the budget.

766
00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:43,750
And it basically matches what we've been reporting last year.

767
00:55:43,930 --> 00:55:45,970
You won't find any surprises in here.

768
00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:48,190
If you remember, I've highlighted some

769
00:55:48,190 --> 00:55:48,650
variances.

770
00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:50,490
Property taxes had a nice variance.

771
00:55:51,350 --> 00:55:53,690
We're starting revenues, by the way.

772
00:55:56,770 --> 00:55:59,190
Education intergovernmental revenues had a variance

773
00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:04,290
because the special education came

774
00:56:04,290 --> 00:56:10,250
in $286,000 over the amount budgeted, and we know that's a fluid account right, special

775
00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:13,910
education depends on the children and that changes during the year.

776
00:56:15,850 --> 00:56:20,070
So you can see all the revenues, budget amounts and actual amounts, and then on the next page,

777
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:25,150
still revenues, but you see the appropriation of fund balance there.

778
00:56:25,850 --> 00:56:32,210
Back in 2425 we appropriated 4 million in fund balance, then it went down to 2 million

779
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:33,930
plus to now is down to a million.

780
00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:40,150
Page 13 starts the expenditures, and that's

781
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:42,230
by function by department, and you'll

782
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:45,050
see the different variances.

783
00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:49,390
And by the way, you won't see any negative variances,

784
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:52,090
because we can't have negative variances.

785
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:54,110
That's why we come to you for transfers.

786
00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:57,630
So these are all positive.

787
00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:00,590
And like I said, I think in the future,

788
00:57:00,590 --> 00:57:05,590
So these are, these variances are going to get smaller, which is nothing over that.

789
00:57:07,170 --> 00:57:11,290
So that goes to page, that ends on page 14.

790
00:57:11,570 --> 00:57:18,260
The total expenditure budget had a variance of 455 on page 14.

791
00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:24,600
You can see the transfer from education light item to the education non-lapsing fund of

792
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,780
$150,000.

793
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:31,680
We move on to the next page.

794
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:42,840
Actually, it's just informational, this is just the general fund, and really what does

795
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,400
it tell you?

796
00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:51,220
The education and unlapsing fund at year end is combined into the general fund, so there's

797
00:57:51,220 --> 00:57:58,080
just the way, different towns do it different ways, Clinton and your auditors combine the

798
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,180
education and unlapsing fund to the general fund, and it's one big general fund amount.

799
00:58:02,180 --> 00:58:08,300
Now, other towns, they may have a separate fund report separately, but it's disclosed

800
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:08,480
here.

801
00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:11,280
You can see what's in the education on lapsing front.

802
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,480
And in fact, that amount on the financials, the $9.59, is still the amount you see today

803
00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:18,940
on my report.

804
00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:27,180
Page 16, same report, but it's the income statement.

805
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:28,760
So this is really summarized, right?

806
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,280
This is just by function.

807
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:40,700
Page 17 is interesting.

808
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,940
Every year we get this.

809
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:43,620
This is a report of the tax collector.

810
00:58:47,110 --> 00:58:48,530
And it's by a grand list year.

811
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:51,190
All the way to the bottom.

812
00:58:52,990 --> 00:58:59,100
Grand list 2023 is the grand list that's current.

813
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:02,320
If you add two years to it, it gets you to the fiscal year, right?

814
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,040
This is actually fiscal year 2425, but it's grandless 23.

815
00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:11,800
So you can see our current tax label, we levied $52.9 million in the tax bills.

816
00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:15,120
During the year, we had some lawful corrections.

817
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:22,940
Tax bills are increased 41,000, decrease 448,000, that's usually by tax appeal cases during the year.

818
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:31,100
So the adjusted taxes collectible was, is highlighted for, for grandless 23 was 52.4 million.

819
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:45,260
We actually collected 51.9 million, so 52.4 divided by 51.9 million gives you the tax collection rate for that year, which was 99.05.

820
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:52,880
It's been pretty consistent, it's been a little bit over 99% for the last few years.

821
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,880
And

822
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:59,960
if you're interested in the delinquent taxes, you can

823
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:27,020
We see, above the highlight, total prior years, in the beginning of the year, we're looking to collect 1.2 million of delinquent taxes, and we actually collect 366,000 of it. So, slowly but surely, we collect on those delinquent taxes. And businesses, I mean, do the towns ever sell that or factor it? Yes. Yeah, we do sell the ends.

824
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,820
I mean, we're not quick to do it.

825
01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:33,380
You know, we give everybody a chance.

826
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,840
So it's a fair process.

827
01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:44,430
So on the next page, now we're going to go to those other funds,

828
01:00:44,570 --> 01:00:46,070
those other governmental funds.

829
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:49,270
And it gives you detail on them.

830
01:00:49,590 --> 01:00:55,350
This first page on page 18 mentions the fund, the funding

831
01:00:55,350 --> 01:00:59,270
source and what those funds generally are for.

832
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:03,240
We go to page 19.

833
01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:06,320
So I picked the income statements for these funds.

834
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:12,340
It's more interesting, because you get to see the revenues coming in and the expenditures.

835
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,580
So on that page 19, we start off with the historic document preservation fund.

836
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,760
And I've highlighted the fund balance. There's 38,000 in there.

837
01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:23,440
You can see the revenues for that year, and you can see the expenditures.

838
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,740
and you can see the type of revenues, right?

839
01:01:26,980 --> 01:01:29,320
So if you look at the Historic Document Preservation Fund

840
01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:33,140
into governmental, so we get 5,500 in grants,

841
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,480
normally for preserving documents of the town clerk's office,

842
01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:39,900
and we get 5,900 in charge of services.

843
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,080
That's a fee the state lets us collect for this purpose.

844
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,740
Miscellaneous fund or miscellaneous grants

845
01:01:50,740 --> 01:01:55,360
grants and you can see that because under revenues you'll see most of its intergovernmental,

846
01:01:55,500 --> 01:02:02,660
which is grants. Community development grant fund, that's interesting, that's an old community

847
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:12,680
development grant that was used to lend money to low income people, typically really seniors

848
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:19,620
that where the houses are in bad repair and the town would, let's say, loan 30,000 to put

849
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:25,320
a new roof on. They wouldn't have to pay it back. It will be a lien on the house. So as

850
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,240
you can see there, we do have funds available.

851
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,640
No funds are coming in. What's happening

852
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,900
is the only funds that are coming in are the liens when they, when we have the opportunity

853
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:37,480
of getting them.

854
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:40,400
And where do you track those liens? Like is there an item on the back?

855
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,240
We have, we have a list of liens. The order is asked for them every year and they kept

856
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,100
track. I'm trying to remember, I can't remember what department now.

857
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,600
What's the small city's grant? It's, I think, urban renewal. I mean, that's the

858
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:54,880
advice.

859
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:58,700
By the way, these funds here on the financial statements, there are

860
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:03,640
a compilation of maybe some more funds, and we'll get to look at that at

861
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:09,680
the very end. Culture and Recreation, the very last one, you'll see $454,000

862
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,880
in there. That's quite a bit of money, but what that is, it's a fund where we

863
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:19,640
collect money for playing sports on our fields and those

864
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,200
monies are saved over time and then let's say after six years we

865
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,840
replace the artificial turf. So the sports teams are paying for the use of the

866
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:36,400
field and we use the money to actually put the money back into the park.

867
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,820
We need to fix the field that we could use at 450,000. How did it get 224 in the

868
01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:46,380
current year. Who's gave us that where that grant come from? Oh, you say those are fees.

869
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:53,240
Yeah, all the sports programs, the pay to play sports programs. It's on the list of identified

870
01:03:54,500 --> 01:04:02,660
periods. Next page. So you have a health and welfare fund, mainly funded by grants.

871
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:10,320
You have a school cafeteria fund, and you can see there's a lot of state and federal grants

872
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:16,760
coming in plus charges for services. They do have a 302,000 fund bounce. They do have

873
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:27,520
the capability of purchasing kitchen equipment with this fund as well. So if there is a fund

874
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:34,300
bounce, they have that flexibility. So I wouldn't expect to see any kitchen equipment in the

875
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:43,160
education budget. There's money here. Big, big fund school activity fund. That's all

876
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,860
the student activity funds relating to mainly collecting for the students, yearbooks,

877
01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:56,180
trips. But there is a central activities fund there and we'll see it later. And I think

878
01:04:56,180 --> 01:05:02,630
the major source there is Medicare reimbursements and that's used for some programs. But we'll

879
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:05,290
we'll get to that detail later.

880
01:05:06,250 --> 01:05:06,730
Next page.

881
01:05:07,930 --> 01:05:10,130
Okay, so these are the funds that we report.

882
01:05:10,610 --> 01:05:13,690
We can't possibly report all the funds that are on the box,

883
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:16,850
so we summarize them on these lines,

884
01:05:17,070 --> 01:05:19,250
but I've done a spreadsheet for you for your information

885
01:05:19,770 --> 01:05:23,950
to show you what funds comprise those columns

886
01:05:23,950 --> 01:05:24,910
in the financial statements.

887
01:05:25,490 --> 01:05:29,510
So if you take your combining work sheets that I gave you,

888
01:05:29,830 --> 01:05:31,170
if you go to the first page,

889
01:05:31,870 --> 01:05:35,650
That first page are all the capital project funds.

890
01:05:36,210 --> 01:05:40,390
The very last column is the column that you see in the financial statements.

891
01:05:41,170 --> 01:05:44,050
But I have funds on the books quite a few, right?

892
01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:48,830
So the very first fund you see, it's fund 60, which is our CIP fund.

893
01:05:49,690 --> 01:05:56,110
Then you have some old capital project funds with some mouse.

894
01:05:56,110 --> 01:05:58,910
Notice you see the Morgan High School Fund?

895
01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:01,810
That's a separate fund.

896
01:06:01,850 --> 01:06:04,010
You see a negative balance of a million dollars.

897
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:09,070
That's the balance that we're waiting for State Reimbursement.

898
01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:12,310
Anything left, we're going to have to bond, and we still have permission to bond

899
01:06:12,310 --> 01:06:12,810
on the books.

900
01:06:13,410 --> 01:06:14,690
We haven't bonded everything for that.

901
01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:22,690
That's taking forever, typically the State Education Department takes forever.

902
01:06:24,310 --> 01:06:28,150
Anyway, that's the detail for capital projects, and that's how we get the column

903
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:29,130
in the financial statements.

904
01:06:30,430 --> 01:06:36,850
So if you don't mind back to this, she, the annual Comprehensive Financial Report, page five.

905
01:06:38,290 --> 01:06:46,070
So fund balances, we have unassigned fund balance at the time in back in June of 30th, 2025, it was $15 million, $15103, right?

906
01:06:46,930 --> 01:06:47,650
Where's these?

907
01:06:48,190 --> 01:06:55,870
Yeah, so if you go, if you go to the very total column, 3.7 million fund balance at the end?

908
01:06:55,870 --> 01:07:02,710
I don't see it. Oh, yeah, capital projects. Yeah, 3, 7, 4, 1. Yeah, you'll see that. I've got it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

909
01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:08,950
Right. You can't possibly put all this in the financials, right? So they anything to do with capital, they add it together into into one

910
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:18,750
fund for financial. Anyway, this is, uh, this is the detail information. If you go to the next page, uh, this is what comprises the miscellaneous fund.

911
01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:19,630
And

912
01:07:21,940 --> 01:07:23,460
now we're getting down to it.

913
01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:26,900
We're a deep now.

914
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:32,440
The miscellaneous fund that's there is the old miscellaneous fund that the town used.

915
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:35,940
The very first column grants fund is a new fund I created

916
01:07:37,580 --> 01:07:41,180
to improve the accounting and it tracks the grants easier.

917
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,240
By the way, I created the

918
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,540
I created grant account numbers so it's easier to track.

919
01:07:48,540 --> 01:08:06,060
But that's the grand notice. There's a separate fun for nips now that used to be thrown into miscellaneous, but I think it's just helpful for me to know exactly what's in on it's program totally we it was currently we have $45,000 in it.

920
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:15,420
And that's used for recycling. We do buy brushes for the what are they sweeping machines?

921
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,400
which is the allowable expense for that.

922
01:08:19,380 --> 01:08:22,320
If you go to the next page, it's the public safety.

923
01:08:22,540 --> 01:08:23,260
It's a small fund.

924
01:08:23,380 --> 01:08:25,160
It's just two funds.

925
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:27,620
Federally seized assets.

926
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,700
That used to be a big fund in the old days.

927
01:08:31,540 --> 01:08:33,280
Basically, they don't give us the money anymore.

928
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:36,060
But there used to be a lot of money in these funds,

929
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:37,000
not anymore.

930
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,440
The state and the feds took it for themselves.

931
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,080
If you go to the next page, it's the culture and recreation.

932
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,000
and that gives you an idea of what's in there.

933
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,560
The very first column, activity's revolving.

934
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:51,980
That's the recreation.

935
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:56,240
That's the Parks and Recreation Sports Fund.

936
01:08:56,980 --> 01:09:01,860
And that's what's used to improve their sports facilities.

937
01:09:02,540 --> 01:09:03,700
Normally, they're grounds.

938
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,580
You've got the Shell Fish Commission there.

939
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,420
You have a Youth Recreation Center.

940
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,880
Parks and Rec, they have some small donations.

941
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,700
and I don't know, don't ask me why the firing range is in there, but it's in there.

942
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,680
So, I find this fascinating.

943
01:09:22,060 --> 01:09:23,780
So, you and me maybe only.

944
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:32,220
So, we collect $221,000 from our...

945
01:09:32,220 --> 01:09:33,820
Basket, all these programs, right?

946
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,180
Yeah.

947
01:09:35,220 --> 01:09:38,120
That part of it doesn't surprise me too much.

948
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:46,040
But what surprises me is $180,000 comes out, like what improvements?

949
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah, I'll tell you what, we were put in that next meeting.

950
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,840
That's a lot of improvements.

951
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:58,560
I'll give you a detailed, well no, well, there's a lot of expenses relating just operational expenses relating to the programs.

952
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:02,340
So it's not, so it's how they fund their instructors and all of that.

953
01:10:02,340 --> 01:10:12,980
So when they offer programs at the REC department and they hire people to instruct and all of that and referees and things like that, it gets paid out of this fund as well.

954
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:18,300
So there's $180,000 in expenses to fund operating.

955
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,360
So the profits just the different.

956
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:25,620
Right. So if you look at the excess is $40,000, that goes into that fund balance.

957
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,040
This fund grant has probably took 10 years and typically we know turf feels less about 10 years.

958
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,460
So it's fun, it's funded through that.

959
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:36,560
It's like a revolving, I mean, but there's some,

960
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,800
obviously, it's profits, but I could see referees,

961
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,160
but you know, a lot of like basketball,

962
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,480
I'm the instructor and I don't get paid.

963
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:46,080
What?

964
01:10:46,340 --> 01:10:47,180
I don't know.

965
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:48,380
There's something like that.

966
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:49,960
I don't know.

967
01:10:50,740 --> 01:10:54,080
It's just that it seems like a lot that's going out.

968
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,400
And so if you could just, I do a report in it.

969
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,660
Yeah, I believe it.

970
01:10:58,660 --> 01:11:03,200
I just want to like to see because like you made a good point Hank if that balance

971
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:04,100
grows

972
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,840
when we go for a tarfield or fix the

973
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:14,880
St. Coles at the football field. That's what it's there for us. Well, that's what we're thinking. Yeah, that's what we were right. We had that plan here

974
01:11:16,340 --> 01:11:18,600
Next page is the health and welfare

975
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:24,000
So you're saying that maybe we can fix that sinkhole and everything out of that fund

976
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,440
We did yeah, I do have some yes

977
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:28,060
Yes. Well, yes, we could.

978
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,260
We could apply it to it.

979
01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:32,200
That's the purpose of the fund.

980
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:32,740
Right.

981
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:42,340
Now, we don't create any funds without town council approval, so these funds were approved 20 years ago,

982
01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:48,040
and when they're approved, when you create a fund, you have to say the specific purpose

983
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,420
where the revenues come in, what they're going to expand.

984
01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:52,160
I understand, I understand, I understand.

985
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,840
I'm just amazed that

986
01:11:58,330 --> 01:12:04,450
we've taken money in the last past years out of CIT and maybe

987
01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:10,410
out of our budgets to do things and we've been sitting on 364,000.

988
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:15,830
Well no, that's been increasing, let's say, 50 to 75,000 each year and I don't know what

989
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:20,790
the commission's plan is, maybe we can get them into, you know, what commission is that?

990
01:12:21,130 --> 01:12:21,550
Parks and Rec.

991
01:12:22,210 --> 01:12:31,070
So those funds are there increasing until it gets to some point and I don't know 10 years that they're going to replace artificial turf. I don't know.

992
01:12:32,210 --> 01:12:39,430
No, I mean, I'm sorry. I don't want to beliga this thing forever. But when it comes to artificial time, all of a sudden they'll say to us,

993
01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:44,070
No, we're going to have to bond the $1,000 we've placed the turf up in park rec

994
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:48,470
I already I will just go to CIP or bonding process and try to

995
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:51,270
work it all out here at the table and

996
01:12:53,050 --> 01:12:57,950
There might be $500,000 said in that that program for a sinkhole

997
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:04,270
Well, they were already told they're already put made aware that this fund will be used to fix that

998
01:13:05,710 --> 01:13:09,130
Is that the only department's got these big? Yeah?

999
01:13:09,130 --> 01:13:10,810
Some of them are rejected here, maybe.

1000
01:13:11,490 --> 01:13:11,970
Yeah, no.

1001
01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:13,410
This is everything, right here.

1002
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:15,070
So all in the financial statements,

1003
01:13:15,230 --> 01:13:15,970
and this is the detail.

1004
01:13:16,990 --> 01:13:20,790
When they do the soccer tournament,

1005
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:22,490
I know they make a lot of money.

1006
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,690
That is that where this soccer money goes.

1007
01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:27,190
Yep.

1008
01:13:30,650 --> 01:13:32,610
Next page is Halton Welfare,

1009
01:13:34,730 --> 01:13:37,250
and that's for the most part all grants.

1010
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:48,010
And then the very last page is from the school side,

1011
01:13:48,010 --> 01:13:50,830
and that what comprises the school activity funds.

1012
01:13:51,330 --> 01:13:53,330
You'll see some scholarships in there.

1013
01:13:54,830 --> 01:13:58,570
Student activity fund is all the yearbooks and the trips

1014
01:13:58,570 --> 01:14:01,450
and so those funds on the student activity

1015
01:14:01,450 --> 01:14:03,690
is actually put aside for the students.

1016
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:11,440
Central office activity, those charges for services

1017
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:14,880
are mainly Medicare reimbursements.

1018
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,680
And there are some programs that are paid for.

1019
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:23,340
As you can see, there's 343,000 this year that programs were paid,

1020
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,080
and that's it.

1021
01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:34,250
That's an obligatory, one heck of a report.

1022
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:39,050
And you really seem to enjoy it, that's great.

1023
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:42,070
Good job.

1024
01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:42,810
Thank you.

1025
01:14:42,990 --> 01:14:43,290
Nice job.

1026
01:14:43,710 --> 01:14:43,910
Thank you.

1027
01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:45,110
A little bit of denial.

1028
01:14:45,450 --> 01:14:46,250
All right.

1029
01:14:49,930 --> 01:14:50,930
We're on to the time management.

1030
01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:52,110
Okay.

1031
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:59,310
We had a position which I told you about a few months back, a 19-hour clerk position in

1032
01:14:59,310 --> 01:14:59,830
and human service.

1033
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:29,060
So that was just recently filled by Alyssa Collingo. I apologize if I didn't say her name. She's going to be starting in the next week or so. They're working to get a start date. The HR firm has started meeting with department heads as part of the audit on town compliance and practices. That should take about three months. Obviously, once we get that report, the council will be shared with the council.

1034
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,920
landfill, landfill capping was at a stance still for quite some time like two plus years.

1035
01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:42,140
We had a call with deep and the representatives from LERO, and they are going to be coming

1036
01:15:42,140 --> 01:15:45,580
on the April 1st meeting to give the Tant Council a complete update.

1037
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,340
We finally got a reply from deep regarding the application.

1038
01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:54,960
So they will be here on April 1st to give an update to you on that.

1039
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,840
And based on what they're saying, we may start as soon as May.

1040
01:16:00,140 --> 01:16:01,020
So it's moving quick.

1041
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,800
It was all due to some issues with deep that they can elaborate on.

1042
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,780
And then the Veterans Affairs Commission,

1043
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,780
Caffeine Conversation is moving forward.

1044
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:15,420
Rick is here tonight, and I wanted to thank him specifically,

1045
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,360
because without him spearheading this event, it would not be moving forward.

1046
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:24,080
Nor would it be going in with such plans

1047
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:30,980
to be a reoccurring event. So we have a lot planned for the first one including a survey

1048
01:16:30,980 --> 01:16:38,500
that we actually reckon I met today to go over to really get a sense on the needs of the vets

1049
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:48,460
that we have here in Clinton and we are going to have it very welcoming for them on the 26th. So we'll do

1050
01:16:48,460 --> 01:16:53,860
another social media push on that but we've had some great response so far. So that is pretty much

1051
01:16:53,860 --> 01:17:02,060
It's been just busy, just, you know, day-to-day stuff, but those are the things that I have to report.

1052
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,600
It's the money, the agenda, and the number eight.

1053
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:07,180
Oh, sorry, go ahead.

1054
01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:08,680
Yeah, just ask a couple questions.

1055
01:17:09,220 --> 01:17:13,280
I'm not very good at attending those Pearson meetings, it seems.

1056
01:17:13,340 --> 01:17:13,460
Yes.

1057
01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:14,700
I get there at the wrong time.

1058
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:15,940
It's the last time.

1059
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,140
Could you give us an update?

1060
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,980
So, right now, they are on track for construction starting in June.

1061
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:30,440
There is a little, we are trying to define the space of the grass up front and the use

1062
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:30,820
of that.

1063
01:17:31,700 --> 01:17:35,240
So, and I'm in the final stages of getting the lease completed.

1064
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:41,200
There's a few things within the lease that we have to work through septic and terms of

1065
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,920
use of the grass, you know, sound, you know, what times the day can we use, have music and

1066
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:46,420
things like that.

1067
01:17:46,420 --> 01:17:48,580
So we're just working through those types of things.

1068
01:17:50,780 --> 01:18:01,660
And once I have some more finalized details of the lease and the proposed use of the

1069
01:18:01,660 --> 01:18:04,400
grass area, I will give you guys an update.

1070
01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:09,040
But their funding is in place, which is great, which was something that was holding them

1071
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,240
up.

1072
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:09,660
That's great.

1073
01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:10,460
But with the DOH.

1074
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,180
And I know they're community oriented.

1075
01:18:13,540 --> 01:18:15,100
They're aware of the fund space.

1076
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,380
They've been doing, yes.

1077
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:17,820
They have the 30 spaces.

1078
01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:20,420
because I believe it is for the garden and the church.

1079
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,580
And they actually have held some community events

1080
01:18:23,580 --> 01:18:27,100
or meet and greets where they've talked to the residents

1081
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,700
and let them know what's going on.

1082
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,420
And they're right, yes.

1083
01:18:31,180 --> 01:18:33,420
They do those on their own as part of their outreach.

1084
01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:36,220
We've actually received an application,

1085
01:18:36,700 --> 01:18:39,620
we received an application for apartment.

1086
01:18:40,460 --> 01:18:40,860
Oh, yeah.

1087
01:18:40,860 --> 01:18:42,560
No, but it's not out there yet.

1088
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,000
They took it from some of the website.

1089
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:46,540
But I mean, so the interest is there as well.

1090
01:18:46,540 --> 01:18:52,540
and once we have a firm window for a construction I'm going to put out a

1091
01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:56,120
public statement so that people are aware of what's going on and the use of

1092
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,780
the space as well because obviously the construction of the parking will be

1093
01:18:59,780 --> 01:19:04,760
off limits and make sure we're working on this for the space for senior for the

1094
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:13,110
senior senator yes fire works I know that it is not on your plate right but of

1095
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:15,050
Of course, the town values it.

1096
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:19,130
And so I just wanted to know if there are plans,

1097
01:19:19,670 --> 01:19:21,110
if somebody is doing this.

1098
01:19:21,410 --> 01:19:22,950
There's not been a non-for-profit

1099
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:24,230
that has reached out to do it.

1100
01:19:24,670 --> 01:19:27,130
Placemakers, it is something that is too big of an undertaking

1101
01:19:27,130 --> 01:19:27,710
for them.

1102
01:19:28,490 --> 01:19:30,370
So as of now, no, there is not.

1103
01:19:32,150 --> 01:19:34,090
What can we do?

1104
01:19:34,730 --> 01:19:35,650
Can we do anything?

1105
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:38,190
Because if there's a group out there

1106
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:39,210
that would like to spearhead it,

1107
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:39,970
they're welcome to do it.

1108
01:19:40,890 --> 01:19:41,910
It's a matter of a group doing it.

1109
01:19:41,910 --> 01:20:06,850
They should be a non-for-profit because people and businesses are making donations and those are tax deductible, so they should be a non-for-profit group, and it's about, I mean, it's quite an expensive undertaking, so they would need to be managing a significant amount of money and donations, so a reputable group, obviously, would be ideal.

1110
01:20:11,940 --> 01:20:23,960
Chairman's report, so I'm on the library building committee and we've been working on talking with a woman named Don LaValle at the state of Connecticut construction grant program.

1111
01:20:24,380 --> 01:20:32,580
Well, Mary Beth reached out to him, and then I reached out to Norman to see if we can increase our chances to get such a grant.

1112
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,780
And so it's a terrible long shop, but you miss all the shots you don't take, right?

1113
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:38,100
So we're going to try to get that money.

1114
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,060
And then in addition, so that's not anything new.

1115
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:42,220
I'm just updating you.

1116
01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:44,720
The letter of intent is due in June.

1117
01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:47,820
And then the application for the grant is in September.

1118
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,320
So that's progressing.

1119
01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:56,110
If we were to be awarded such a grant,

1120
01:20:56,210 --> 01:20:58,630
it could pay it for up to 50% of the total project cost,

1121
01:20:59,010 --> 01:21:00,410
not to exceed a million dollars.

1122
01:21:01,850 --> 01:21:04,330
We'll see what we can get put in for and what our

1123
01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:05,070
chances are getting it.

1124
01:21:05,410 --> 01:21:07,450
And then we also talked about the possibility, and I think

1125
01:21:07,450 --> 01:21:16,950
We looked in our capital plan that we had other funding for the library project and it was $500,000 and we're hoping that we could go for a steep grant or some other type of grant help the library project.

1126
01:21:17,370 --> 01:21:18,430
It's not open right now.

1127
01:21:18,990 --> 01:21:26,830
It's usually in June or July, so maybe we should talk, maybe with Mary Beth or to understand that we're prepared for it.

1128
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:31,370
We've got to be sure we're ready here or whatever we have to have in place so that when it does open up we're ready.

1129
01:21:31,790 --> 01:21:38,430
What is open as a congressionally directed spending or do we have any intention there or anything?

1130
01:21:39,690 --> 01:21:45,830
The question is who would you reach out to, right? You could go to Chris Murphy Blumenthal or the application is open.

1131
01:21:46,530 --> 01:21:55,410
Yeah, so we should. You know, if anybody want to take the action, I'll take the action to reach out to our federal delegation and ask them CDS.

1132
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:55,810
What is it?

1133
01:21:56,050 --> 01:21:56,310
Congressional?

1134
01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:57,150
That's right.

1135
01:21:57,650 --> 01:21:58,810
It's a CDA.

1136
01:21:59,190 --> 01:21:59,890
It's a CDA.

1137
01:22:00,250 --> 01:22:01,030
No, it's a CDA.

1138
01:22:01,030 --> 01:22:01,590
No, it's a CDA.

1139
01:22:02,290 --> 01:22:02,350
Yeah.

1140
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,040
Next slide, please.

1141
01:22:06,340 --> 01:22:10,900
Well, we have a hard time, quite frankly, because I remember being on that library committee

1142
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:19,720
a year ago, when you were going to go to the feds and ask somebody up there, and they said,

1143
01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:24,960
hey, you guys got $500,000 for your water.

1144
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:31,620
Yeah, so probably I'm not trying to I just give you a maybe that forgot

1145
01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:36,720
We're going to see how that was denied and then now reinstated

1146
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:44,360
Yeah, that might be a very good excuse for them to say to you. I don't know certainly can't hurt by trying but

1147
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:52,980
Don't get your whole side. There's a number of municipalities who apply for multiple things and in the same year for the CDS and

1148
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:54,820
and our have been awarded it.

1149
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:56,660
Like a whole save book was one of them.

1150
01:22:57,100 --> 01:23:00,960
So we can get multiple and sequential years.

1151
01:23:03,490 --> 01:23:06,530
So next item I wanted to mention is we had a conversation

1152
01:23:06,530 --> 01:23:09,390
in our last time council meeting about block cameras

1153
01:23:09,390 --> 01:23:11,810
and the question of the jurisdiction of the management

1154
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:14,350
of the data, whether it's falls from the police commission

1155
01:23:14,770 --> 01:23:15,790
or the town council.

1156
01:23:16,430 --> 01:23:19,030
And I was hawked with outside council

1157
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:21,210
and they seem to think that the answer is predominantly

1158
01:23:21,210 --> 01:23:23,110
or probably the police commission.

1159
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:27,790
That's not a definitive answer yet, but there's an expression in the Navy called overtaken by events.

1160
01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:34,990
And I think we've been overtaken by events because the State of Connecticut is considering House Bill 5449 and Senate Bill 4.

1161
01:23:34,990 --> 01:23:38,010
Maybe you could tell us a little more about it, Chris, of what to tell about that.

1162
01:23:38,230 --> 01:23:43,730
It's more so the data, so they just want to read the regulatory oversight on where the data goes.

1163
01:23:44,290 --> 01:23:49,350
So the guy, the gentleman from Flock came and testified and his testimony was very straightforward.

1164
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:53,710
We have the data after 30 days, the data is deleted.

1165
01:23:54,130 --> 01:23:58,030
But it's in the cloud, is how they back it up, so you technically don't know.

1166
01:23:59,430 --> 01:24:02,530
But the data then, obviously the police department,

1167
01:24:02,650 --> 01:24:04,650
the police commission have oversight on that data.

1168
01:24:05,010 --> 01:24:08,610
Right now it's 30 days, that they keep the data in their system.

1169
01:24:08,850 --> 01:24:12,230
The legislation that they proposed, they wanted to drop it to seven days.

1170
01:24:13,050 --> 01:24:15,950
They may agree on 14 to 21 days.

1171
01:24:15,950 --> 01:24:21,630
But the only way that the data stays active is if it's an active criminal investigation.

1172
01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:27,110
So if they have a license plate and it's involved in some sort of criminal investigation,

1173
01:24:27,610 --> 01:24:30,670
that then would stay in possession of the police department.

1174
01:24:31,150 --> 01:24:37,410
There's also other issues, that issue but the bill also translates to cross states and

1175
01:24:37,410 --> 01:24:43,790
how they share the information because again, you can have some states will allow share ability of that data.

1176
01:24:43,790 --> 01:24:50,470
So then somebody from their state could call our state and then you know deal with that but all of the data that they say that they

1177
01:24:51,130 --> 01:24:57,310
Are going to that they keep active is has to be involved in a criminal investigation. There has to be paperwork, but I think the

1178
01:24:57,930 --> 01:25:02,670
You know, I think a lot of the questions that came up during the public hearing was that people are still concerned about it

1179
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:04,250
They're still concerned where the data stays

1180
01:25:04,250 --> 01:25:10,430
They say that it goes in the cloud and then what happens if there's a breach there then that data is there and you know

1181
01:25:10,430 --> 01:25:13,930
So they don't limit, they basically snapshot every license plate.

1182
01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:21,070
You know, whether you're going, coming, going, or, you know, and so people are worried about that part of it as well.

1183
01:25:21,570 --> 01:25:27,090
So the legislation, I don't know what's going to happen, I know the debating and dealing with how long that that data should be kept active.

1184
01:25:27,550 --> 01:25:32,410
The bottom line is the people that are against it are just the oversight of you're doing this.

1185
01:25:32,830 --> 01:25:39,690
And people, just freaks some people out and people are upset about it and I mean, that's part of the process of the public hearings

1186
01:25:39,690 --> 01:25:40,810
where people can come in and talk.

1187
01:25:41,410 --> 01:25:43,950
So I personally, I think that something will happen.

1188
01:25:44,330 --> 01:25:46,590
I think they'll negotiate to probably a shorter term,

1189
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:49,330
but I don't think it would be the end of the legislation.

1190
01:25:49,690 --> 01:25:52,810
I think it'll continue to be up for debate on how they handle it.

1191
01:25:53,130 --> 01:25:58,350
But there'll be some legislation possibly by May 6th when the General Assembly ends.

1192
01:25:58,910 --> 01:25:59,170
Correct.

1193
01:25:59,450 --> 01:26:03,310
And from our point of view, we probably shouldn't do anything until we see what happens at the state level.

1194
01:26:03,310 --> 01:26:06,110
Because that'll be say law, because that'll be the oversight of anything.

1195
01:26:06,110 --> 01:26:08,990
So, I mean, you know, those are the flock cameras.

1196
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:09,910
I mean, those are the camera readers.

1197
01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:11,030
The state is the opposite of that.

1198
01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:12,310
Make that clear.

1199
01:26:12,490 --> 01:26:13,310
That's the flock cameras.

1200
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:16,250
Not the hearing we're having next week on the...

1201
01:26:16,250 --> 01:26:18,450
The speed cameras are completely different and it's...

1202
01:26:18,450 --> 01:26:21,250
I mean, I voted in favor of it in Hartford because it wasn't a mandate.

1203
01:26:21,930 --> 01:26:25,570
It was an ask and it was that the municipalities make their own decision.

1204
01:26:27,010 --> 01:26:30,910
So, every municipality should have their own elected board, elected officials,

1205
01:26:30,910 --> 01:26:32,490
that make their own decision on what they want to do.

1206
01:26:32,730 --> 01:26:34,570
And that's why the ordinance part of all of that

1207
01:26:34,570 --> 01:26:37,310
that was something that I was okay with.

1208
01:26:38,230 --> 01:26:41,510
So, I mean, and again, we make that decision.

1209
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:43,110
I mean, the governing body of the towns,

1210
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:45,510
then make the decision on the ordinance itself,

1211
01:26:45,690 --> 01:26:48,210
what it says, what it does, and how it flows.

1212
01:26:48,910 --> 01:26:50,750
So, let's keep our fingers crossed.

1213
01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:52,830
The state law comes out the way we hope,

1214
01:26:52,890 --> 01:26:53,730
and it looks like it's gonna,

1215
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:54,950
then we don't have to do anything at all.

1216
01:26:55,650 --> 01:26:57,090
Yeah, I mean, whatever it is, we'd have to follow.

1217
01:26:57,710 --> 01:26:59,830
And Chris, that flock camera debate,

1218
01:27:00,150 --> 01:27:02,450
it's not partisan, is it?

1219
01:27:03,190 --> 01:27:08,530
it's it's everybody yeah yeah the Black and Puerto Rican caucus are very

1220
01:27:09,050 --> 01:27:12,610
involved in that they play a big part up in Hartford you know and it's you

1221
01:27:12,610 --> 01:27:15,990
know it's they talk they just they worry about you know people getting your

1222
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:20,830
your information and where it goes and they say that it's deleted I mean we

1223
01:27:20,830 --> 01:27:24,450
delete things off our phone if you want it you get it so a deletion doesn't

1224
01:27:24,450 --> 01:27:27,670
mean it's necessarily mean a deletion you know when the the gentlemen from

1225
01:27:27,670 --> 01:27:30,490
flock talked about like the cloud.

1226
01:27:32,050 --> 01:27:34,410
I mean, it's going to be somewhere.

1227
01:27:34,730 --> 01:27:35,350
Let's put it that way.

1228
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:36,670
So the data will be somewhere.

1229
01:27:37,330 --> 01:27:38,970
They can delete it off of their system.

1230
01:27:38,970 --> 01:27:40,610
And then basically they said it was the

1231
01:27:40,610 --> 01:27:42,410
municipalities police department.

1232
01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:45,290
But you could drive through Clinton.

1233
01:27:45,730 --> 01:27:48,650
And then go through old saybrook and they can

1234
01:27:48,650 --> 01:27:50,290
keep it for the firm full term.

1235
01:27:50,510 --> 01:27:51,610
If it's not, if they-

1236
01:27:51,610 --> 01:27:53,630
Only if it's a criminal investigation.

1237
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:54,110
Right.

1238
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:56,810
But your license plate still going to get captured

1239
01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:59,230
in another town, and stay in the cloud.

1240
01:27:59,550 --> 01:28:00,310
So it's going to get in the cloud,

1241
01:28:00,490 --> 01:28:03,210
whether it's in from Clinton or from Old Saberker Madison.

1242
01:28:03,670 --> 01:28:05,550
It's that's why the law that they're trying to propose.

1243
01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:08,350
I don't know if it doesn't really fix the problem,

1244
01:28:08,350 --> 01:28:10,790
but it just shortens the term from 30 days

1245
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:11,850
down to a shorter term.

1246
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:13,750
But the people that don't like it

1247
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:15,530
or the people that are just uncomfortable

1248
01:28:15,530 --> 01:28:17,770
with everybody knowing where they go every time.

1249
01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:22,710
If you say that you're going to get picked up on the date

1250
01:28:22,710 --> 01:28:25,330
is going to be in the cloud, the only way to stop that

1251
01:28:25,330 --> 01:28:27,630
That is to not have flock cameras that I can think of now.

1252
01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:29,190
And they're going to have to have that.

1253
01:28:29,190 --> 01:28:34,010
I mean, the issues are, you know, and like they say that, well, if there's a stolen car, we can find it.

1254
01:28:34,430 --> 01:28:37,830
But the problem is that if it picks up on a camera, Clinton, and they're driving a killing

1255
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:38,730
worth, they're gone.

1256
01:28:39,790 --> 01:28:43,090
So like, you know, so they can find out that they say, oh, that car's a stolen vehicle.

1257
01:28:43,230 --> 01:28:44,950
They can read the license plate, right?

1258
01:28:45,130 --> 01:28:47,330
Because if somebody reported it stolen, it's in the system is reported.

1259
01:28:47,450 --> 01:28:50,210
They have a hit on the camera that says it's a stolen car.

1260
01:28:51,410 --> 01:28:52,930
Like, I don't think it prevents anything.

1261
01:28:53,290 --> 01:28:54,750
I mean, at that point, if it's stolen car, they're gone.

1262
01:28:55,710 --> 01:29:00,910
You're not going to get, I mean, it could be on the lookout, I guess, and then what they say, put it on a hot list.

1263
01:29:01,350 --> 01:29:07,970
But again, if you shorten the time to seven days, then again, you're in seven days you're gone.

1264
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:10,290
But that's a lot of moving parts.

1265
01:29:11,890 --> 01:29:16,890
And again, it should be up to the municipalities on what they want to do with these things.

1266
01:29:18,530 --> 01:29:20,090
Well, let's see what the state law says.

1267
01:29:20,090 --> 01:29:23,830
Yeah, I mean, there's going to be a law they're going to do what they do and then we don't have a choice

1268
01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:30,530
All right, so now changing from flock cameras to the automated camera hearing that we're going to have next week

1269
01:29:31,230 --> 01:29:32,130
We asked

1270
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:38,710
The community sending letters and things to you so that we make sure that the presentation by the chief answers the questions

1271
01:29:38,710 --> 01:29:40,030
Have you received no?

1272
01:29:40,510 --> 01:29:41,510
I received any

1273
01:29:42,630 --> 01:29:44,810
Okay, yeah, and myself

1274
01:29:46,130 --> 01:29:47,610
deputy Cain and

1275
01:29:47,610 --> 01:29:51,730
and chief to mail receive them, so we're all, we'll get them.

1276
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:52,850
And none of you got it?

1277
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:52,970
Yeah.

1278
01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:53,450
Wow.

1279
01:29:53,890 --> 01:29:55,230
And we did put out on social media.

1280
01:29:55,670 --> 01:29:55,810
Okay.

1281
01:29:56,250 --> 01:29:56,590
Thank you.

1282
01:29:58,290 --> 01:29:59,970
Next item that I had on my mind.

1283
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,520
I'm sorry to be a little bit long, but we talked about the leadership guide and updating our mission statement and our vision statement and that kind of stuff. And I would like to have a special meeting or, yeah, a special meeting to a workshop to do that in. And we said we would do that after the budget was over. And we're still probably not over yet. There's April and May are pretty busy, but sometime in the next few months, maybe in June or July, I'd like to go back to leadership guide, our vision statement. There was a letter that Carl sent us that described

1284
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,900
the nature of the town council form of government.

1285
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:34,900
I went back to Reddit recently and it's pretty good.

1286
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:36,660
And it would be good for us to go over that,

1287
01:30:37,020 --> 01:30:38,180
and then go through our leadership guide,

1288
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:39,400
make sure everybody understands their roles

1289
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:39,980
and responsibilities.

1290
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,200
And then update our goals.

1291
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,460
We did them in 2020, we did the town council.

1292
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,300
And then it was updated in 21 and we haven't done it since

1293
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,040
and so it'd be good to update our goals.

1294
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,020
And then next is, last year we did our performance

1295
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,900
evaluation of the town manager a little late.

1296
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:05,860
If things didn't get done as timely as we had hoped, and what is it doing June?

1297
01:31:06,580 --> 01:31:08,520
June is my anniversary.

1298
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,500
So I like to get started earlier than last year.

1299
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:14,060
So I was thinking we'd have an executive session.

1300
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,880
I have our first meeting in discussion about it in, like say May, like end of May, May 20th.

1301
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,060
We have a meeting on May 20th, an evening meeting.

1302
01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:25,340
And if that works for everybody's schedule, it's the 7 p.m. meeting on May 20th.

1303
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,820
After the meeting, we'll have the executive session to begin that process.

1304
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:42,030
just I mean clarification on that is you know we have we have to review this

1305
01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:50,930
current and then and then going forward for next year so I think what we

1306
01:31:50,930 --> 01:31:56,630
talked about was you know we're sort of in now and there's really you know we

1307
01:31:56,630 --> 01:32:03,030
can have a discussion, but we've already discussed the goals for this session, so we can talk

1308
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:03,450
about it.

1309
01:32:03,870 --> 01:32:11,570
I think we need more time to go for next year, next, you know, the next cycle is where

1310
01:32:11,570 --> 01:32:16,710
we really need some more time, but we can talk about that in executive session, but that's

1311
01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:17,790
two different things.

1312
01:32:21,130 --> 01:32:26,010
And then the only thing that popped in my head was we talked about the use of the Andrews

1313
01:32:26,010 --> 01:32:31,110
memorial hall. And you said you were going to look at it still working on the inventory.

1314
01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:36,350
Yeah. Inventory of what resources we have available like lighting or sound. Yeah. Okay.

1315
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:44,970
You have an ETA or idea of one. No, Todd's running point on that. He's waiting to get some

1316
01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:49,550
response from the gentleman who actually does the walk through when it looks at the sound

1317
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:55,050
board. There's been a suggestion to relocate the sound board. I know the screen's okay.

1318
01:32:55,050 --> 01:32:59,990
So I know bits and pieces of it, but some of it's a little bit more complex. We're waiting for an actual right now

1319
01:33:00,810 --> 01:33:05,730
Report. Thank you. That's it for me. We're chairman's report council discussion

1320
01:33:05,730 --> 01:33:07,590
I'll put it up to the council anybody got

1321
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:12,010
Anything more? I think all mine came in my questions

1322
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:15,700
Bob you wore them out

1323
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:17,420
You did

1324
01:33:19,060 --> 01:33:22,540
How council liaison reports will go with you first Brian?

1325
01:33:22,540 --> 01:33:39,360
Planning and zoning, the affordable housing at five liberty places approved, that's 24 units, eight of them are going to be affordable, the DPW storage unit was approved at not road and the council received their ethics training from attorney to not for you on Monday.

1326
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:41,720
Another two and a half hour planning and zoning meeting.

1327
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,160
You've got the long story there, very short story.

1328
01:33:47,900 --> 01:33:48,220
Chris?

1329
01:33:49,380 --> 01:33:50,840
Nothing from Park and Rack.

1330
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:59,420
From economic development, Nancy Adams asked me to ask you, I know it's in the budget

1331
01:33:59,420 --> 01:34:03,220
we don't have an economic development coordinator guaranteed in the budget yet, but if we did

1332
01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:07,300
and we post said job, if you could share draft of that job posting, I think they have some

1333
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:08,740
people in mind that they think might be.

1334
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:09,300
Absolutely.

1335
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:10,180
Oh, wait a minute.

1336
01:34:10,180 --> 01:34:10,260
Yeah.

1337
01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:12,200
That's it for me.

1338
01:34:12,700 --> 01:34:15,440
I wish the mission was wrong, no big deal.

1339
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:24,800
I will want to say that Deputy King has made a short eight

1340
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:29,780
minute presentation about the traffic

1341
01:34:29,780 --> 01:34:32,560
camps for the public.

1342
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:37,040
And I guess I could share it with you.

1343
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,120
ahead of time if you'd like.

1344
01:34:38,260 --> 01:34:41,040
Well, yeah, that'd be nice to share it with us,

1345
01:34:41,220 --> 01:34:43,440
but I'm just wondering, is he going to share it?

1346
01:34:43,460 --> 01:34:44,660
He's planning to share it as part

1347
01:34:44,660 --> 01:34:46,180
of their presentation on the 25th.

1348
01:34:46,340 --> 01:34:53,580
It's a very concise, it may help, as a matter of fact,

1349
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:59,480
after I watched it Monday, and it was very nice.

1350
01:35:02,060 --> 01:35:06,920
And I suggested to him, possibly if he could do the same

1351
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:14,160
thing for flock. To explain a lot of things, just like Chris is trying to do right now

1352
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:21,200
about the state and whatever. And going to a little bit more detail about all the little

1353
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:27,340
and those have to be long. And I think if he comes even close to what he did for the safety,

1354
01:35:27,820 --> 01:35:33,140
it'd be very beneficial. And he said that he's going to look into it and the chief was talking

1355
01:35:33,140 --> 01:35:36,780
the other night here, I guess we were talking and said he thought it was a good idea.

1356
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:41,480
He was going to him in his depth to try to do something like that to get it because

1357
01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:42,640
I think it would help out.

1358
01:35:42,860 --> 01:35:43,020
I agree.

1359
01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:47,800
I know when they discussed it the other night, the police commission, there were several things

1360
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:57,020
that I was wrong on, we blunt about the storage of the equipment and not only the storage

1361
01:35:57,020 --> 01:36:03,340
with the sharing. See, I was under the assumption that as soon as that camera takes the picture

1362
01:36:03,340 --> 01:36:08,900
of my license, that just gets broadcasted across the United States, everybody's got access

1363
01:36:08,900 --> 01:36:16,420
to it, not true. Our police department has the access. And you have to request, if you're

1364
01:36:16,420 --> 01:36:27,080
in Illinois. And you had a suspicion about something coming up. Do you have to

1365
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:33,600
request Clinton to ask for my license plate and information?

1366
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,840
And if PD has asked another PD, it's not the public ask.

1367
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:42,640
And before they do that, I guess the dep or somebody down there designated to do this,

1368
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:50,680
They would check it out, and that state has to be one of those sharing states that Chris was talking about that

1369
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,220
Handlers your information in a supposedly

1370
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,660
Confidential way and stuff like that. So that was loose to me and

1371
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,420
I told you that you don't know that are a debt that you know

1372
01:37:04,420 --> 01:37:10,500
That was one of my biggest concerns was as soon as I died down killing with my license plate. It's on boom

1373
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:17,120
So it's over in California or Chicago or something like that or Illinois, you know, and

1374
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:21,260
businesses are there, just don't know, don't go right out there, it stays here.

1375
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,500
And people have to request that.

1376
01:37:23,860 --> 01:37:30,960
So there was a lot of things that I guess, whenever we approved this, what two years ago,

1377
01:37:31,180 --> 01:37:32,180
a year and a half, I don't know.

1378
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:40,780
That maybe, you know, wasn't clear enough or, you know, sort of overlooked or whatever.

1379
01:37:40,780 --> 01:37:49,000
And I think the depth is going to try to get into that a little bit and explain it a little clearer

1380
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:55,440
just how who handles that data, how that data gets moved. And of course, Chris

1381
01:37:55,440 --> 01:38:00,720
bought a very interesting subject now when you talk about eye clouds, that really

1382
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:05,300
will scare a lot of people. I know it's scared of me because you know, where's the clouds?

1383
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,200
But anyway, so anyway,

1384
01:38:09,620 --> 01:38:12,560
I'll give you something I know about clouds,

1385
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:13,860
maybe just interesting.

1386
01:38:14,060 --> 01:38:16,200
You're such things as public clouds and private clouds.

1387
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,820
So electric boat would not share its information

1388
01:38:18,820 --> 01:38:19,740
on a public cloud.

1389
01:38:20,020 --> 01:38:22,060
So we wouldn't have a place in a different state

1390
01:38:22,060 --> 01:38:25,200
that was secure and it was a big main frame

1391
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,200
and it stored our information

1392
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,800
and no other persons can get to it.

1393
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,720
So you could be in a cloud and not be vulnerable.

1394
01:38:31,380 --> 01:38:32,280
And then there's public clouds

1395
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,860
where a lot of different companies or towns share

1396
01:38:35,860 --> 01:38:38,240
and then it's segregated and separated,

1397
01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:40,860
and then that gets a little much worse.

1398
01:38:41,380 --> 01:38:43,620
So, I'm looking forward to that.

1399
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:49,000
And, you know, I think the debt you're doing, you know,

1400
01:38:49,980 --> 01:38:51,800
I just think of it as a job of trying to get.

1401
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,000
That's a great idea, and that would be very clarifying.

1402
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,660
It would be good to know those facts.

1403
01:38:57,020 --> 01:38:59,060
Might make sense to wait to see what the state law is.

1404
01:38:59,060 --> 01:38:59,760
Oh yeah, definitely.

1405
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:00,640
Definitely.

1406
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,680
Oh yeah, I'm just saying this will only be another tool.

1407
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:11,400
And, you know, something more, we should look at before we get into the nitty-gritty.

1408
01:39:12,340 --> 01:39:14,400
All the information we have to better.

1409
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:16,300
All right.

1410
01:39:16,740 --> 01:39:17,720
Anybody else anything else?

1411
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,100
Do I hear a motion to adjourn?

1412
01:39:20,860 --> 01:39:21,080
So?

1413
01:39:21,900 --> 01:39:22,860
Brian, first.

1414
01:39:23,740 --> 01:39:24,380
First second.

1415
01:39:24,620 --> 01:39:24,700
All.

1416
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:25,700
Two down.

1417
01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:26,580
Okay, everybody.

1418
01:39:26,860 --> 01:39:27,880
Motion second.

1419
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:28,480
Discussion?

1420
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:29,900
All in favor?

1421
01:39:30,620 --> 01:39:31,220
Opposed?

1422
01:39:31,220 --> 01:39:33,220
Just if you guys are staying in motion cares.