[0:01] Hi. This is
[0:03] >> That's right. Yeah.
[0:06] That's what I say.
[0:32] No,
[0:34] you're right. Trust me.
[0:38] They said this lesson.
[1:05] » [snorts]
[2:55] » You see something?
[3:31] Just wait.
[3:35] Sorry.
[5:34] This is it.
[5:36] >> Oh, that's all.
[5:39] It's just
[5:45] how are you?
[5:49] » Oh sh
[5:51] in the car.
[5:54] I'm the age that really matters.
[5:57] >> Good evening everyone. Thanks for
[5:58] coming.
[6:00] I would like to start by introducing
[6:02] myself.
[6:03] My name is Kim Wigginson. I'm the chair
[6:05] of the housing committee and Miss
[6:07] Patrick is the co-chair.
[6:10] I just wanted to take a few minutes for
[6:11] everyone to introduce theirelves so I
[6:13] can put the names of the faces.
[6:16] If you don't mind, you want to start.
[6:18] Hello, I'm Monica Cook.
[6:21] >> And I'm Bob Hoffman.
[6:23] >> I'm Amanda Yarum.
[6:24] >> Jackie Cook,
[6:27] >> Harvey Andrew,
[6:29] >> and Sean O'Brien, assistant corporation
[6:31] counsel.
[6:33] >> Welcome everybody. I'm glad everybody
[6:34] could be here tonight.
[6:37] Um
[6:39] I would like everybody to know that um
[6:42] we got work to do. So with that being
[6:45] said, I would like to call the housing
[6:48] stability task force into order.
[6:53] We will stay on task
[6:56] and first we're going to first thing on
[6:58] the agenda is to review the enacting
[7:01] legislation resolution
[7:03] 2025
[7:05] 138
[7:13] » a resolution established a city housing
[7:16] stability task force whereas the city of
[7:20] Mr. Skenctity city council would like to
[7:23] evaluate gaps and possible solutions in
[7:26] tenant protection, housing
[7:28] affordability, displacement and
[7:30] neighborhood stability and comprehensive
[7:33] approach. Whereas to assist in such
[7:37] evaluation, the city council would like
[7:40] to input
[7:42] from stakeholders, including landlords
[7:44] that own properties in the city, tenants
[7:48] that live in the city, Skenctity based
[7:51] housing advocates that serve the city,
[7:53] residents and landlords, [clears throat]
[7:55] Skenctity based non nonprofits that
[7:58] serve the city residents and landlords
[8:01] and developers that serve the city here
[8:04] in and here here and after stakeholders.
[8:10] We asked the city council wishes to
[8:12] establish a housing stability task force
[8:15] to conduct an exclusive evidence based
[8:19] assessment of current housing
[8:21] conditions, rental market trends,
[8:24] evictions, eviction data, community
[8:27] needs, and potential impact of
[8:30] alternatives to opting in to good cause
[8:34] eviction law in the city of Skenley.
[8:37] Now wherefore be it resolved a housing
[8:41] stability task force, it is established
[8:44] which will be compromised
[8:46] com
[8:48] of nine volunteer stakeholders including
[8:51] [clears throat] one member of the city
[8:53] council who shall be the chair of the
[8:56] task force. Be it further resolved the
[9:00] housing that the housing stability task
[9:03] force shall be charged with conducting a
[9:06] review of the local housing trends,
[9:09] eviction filings, rent burdens and
[9:12] vacancy rates, hosting public forums and
[9:15] engaging stakeholders with voices across
[9:18] the housing spectrum and live perception
[9:21] review and public input reporting within
[9:23] [clears throat]
[9:24] 120 days of the first meeting.
[9:27] the potential impact of the good cause
[9:30] eviction and skinnity and recommending
[9:34] short and long long-term strategies to
[9:37] stabilize housing without increasing
[9:39] regulatory burdens unnecessarily and be
[9:43] it yet further resolved that the task
[9:46] force shall com
[9:50] [clears throat]
[9:51] comprise nine members to the appointed
[9:55] to be appointed
[9:56] by the city council.
[10:04] Be in debt further resolve that the
[10:08] first meeting of those
[10:11] the first meeting and those thereafter
[10:13] of the housing stability task force
[10:16] shall be called at least once at least
[10:19] once city council members on notice to
[10:22] the public via the city clerk in the
[10:24] same manner that the city council's
[10:26] meetings are published.
[10:46] Okay. Um
[10:49] discussions.
[10:51] Um we wanted to um collaborations with
[10:53] one skinnity
[10:57] and um we have some literature here and
[10:59] some data that um is going to be
[11:02] presented by Miss Pertaining
[11:06] to those
[11:10] do you want me to just uh say it's about
[11:18] so once meets the first Thursday of
[11:21] every month um from 8 to 9. And this is
[11:26] a presentation that you have in front of
[11:28] you that I presented um in February. And
[11:32] I just it was really a great um
[11:35] collaboration and it talked about
[11:37] housing issues and this is full of
[11:39] statistics um regarding evictions but I
[11:43] just wanted to tell you about one
[11:45] strategy. Um their main purpose is
[11:49] coming together as a whole um that aims
[11:52] to connect, empower, and mobilize
[11:55] tenants, homeowners, landlords,
[11:58] neighborhood leaders, real estate
[12:00] professionals, elected officials, and
[12:02] staff in the city and county of
[12:04] Skenctity to create and maintain quality
[12:07] homes for all and neighborhoods where
[12:09] everyone can thrive. And everyone who
[12:12] attends is usually from the community,
[12:14] nonprofit organizations, people who are
[12:17] basically coming together like this
[12:19] housing task force is as well.
[12:21] [clears throat] And in here, it talks
[12:24] about all of the statistics about um
[12:26] evictions. It has really, you know, and
[12:29] I'm not going to give everything, but if
[12:31] you go through it, what you want to
[12:32] know, the median household income in
[12:35] city of Sket, unemployment in the city,
[12:38] all things that contribute to evictions
[12:41] um in Skenctity and the capital region.
[12:44] Um so read through it. It talks also
[12:47] about the rent burden in Skenctity.
[12:51] um the vacancies in terms of housing and
[12:53] schedules and what policy solutions have
[12:57] been pursued
[12:58] um so far. So again, I'm not going to go
[13:02] through it, but it does talk about um
[13:04] rental certificate program eviction
[13:07] policies, exactly what is that, the nuts
[13:10] and bolts. Um, and then it really goes
[13:14] through and explains um the pros and the
[13:18] cons about the good cause eviction
[13:19] policy. Um so again, read through it and
[13:23] if anybody's interested in attending um
[13:28] the meetings that are once a month, you
[13:31] can find them on Facebook um and can
[13:34] click like there's a little link and
[13:36] they'll send you the monthly Zoom call
[13:40] um link and we attend via
[13:46] » Okay. Thank you, Monica. Um I wanted to
[13:49] we want to um have a discussion in the
[13:52] areas of housing challenges to focus on
[13:56] that we have to focus on being hotels
[13:59] being used for temporary housing
[14:01] identifying the local hotels. No sorry
[14:05] hotels being used for temporary housing
[14:09] that's becoming an issue that I find.
[14:12] Do anybody have any output for that? I
[14:16] know um there's been a number of people
[14:18] that come to our pantries
[14:22] and I have heard from them that there
[14:24] are certain hotels that throw mothers
[14:26] and children out during the day no
[14:27] matter what the weather is so that they
[14:30] can clean now things like that. I don't
[14:32] know how anyone else feels, but I kind
[14:35] of think that's atrocious to do that to
[14:37] a family who's already in trouble and
[14:39] you think to the street for hours while
[14:42] you clean,
[14:44] right?
[14:46] Great.
[14:47] Anyone else?
[14:55] Okay. Identif we going to we want to
[14:57] identify local hotels used by DSS
[15:02] for housing. There's um there's an issue
[15:06] with people being in hotels over a year
[15:10] that living there like a state house
[15:12] when it's not.
[15:14] [snorts]
[15:14] um
[15:16] >> a year.
[15:17] >> Yeah. [clears throat]
[15:18] >> Living there a year or better.
[15:22] >> Yes.
[15:24] So, we definitely got to tackle what we
[15:26] can do and what we can come up with
[15:29] resources and datas for that. And also,
[15:32] if anybody knows the list of hotels that
[15:34] DSS is um working with
[15:38] as far as housing, that would be great.
[15:42] Can we just ask DSS for that
[15:44] information?
[15:46] >> We could do that also.
[15:48] >> I get a lot of hopeless people at the
[15:50] pantries.
[15:51] >> Yeah, madam madam chair. Yeah, perhaps a
[15:54] request for information from the county
[15:55] department of social services regarding
[15:58] these questions. What hotels?
[16:01] >> Identify the hotels paid. Uh according
[16:05] to this report that you were all given
[16:07] tonight and the [clears throat] local
[16:09] social services districts that's the
[16:11] county uh county social services
[16:15] who according to this state regulations
[16:17] require them to inspect hotels and motel
[16:20] housing homeless every six months and
[16:22] further the new reg the regulations uh
[16:26] also require them to file a six-month
[16:28] inspection for hotels to OTAA office of
[16:32] temporary disabilities insurance
[16:35] assistance. So I think those points that
[16:39] you had in the discussion are you know
[16:42] requests for information for the for the
[16:44] county to provide those numbers and
[16:48] according to this they're if they're
[16:50] housing if DSS is housing the you know
[16:53] folks in in invable
[16:57] list and according to this report they
[17:01] be infecting the conditions every six
[17:03] months. So, um,
[17:05] >> but we know that's not that's not
[17:07] happening.
[17:07] >> Well, we should be asking also for the
[17:09] inspection.
[17:11] >> I mean, they they
[17:13] >> the reports of the inspection.
[17:15] >> Yeah. It requires them to do the
[17:17] inspections every six months and uh so
[17:20] probably should request the most recent
[17:23] [clears throat] inspection reports to
[17:25] hotels.
[17:25] >> Maybe they should do them more often in
[17:27] six months. Well, I' I'd be curious to
[17:30] see how many hotels have the same
[17:32] problems across the board.
[17:35] >> You know, that would tell us a lot, I
[17:37] think.
[17:37] >> Or how timely the inspections are
[17:39] because if the if it's they're supposed
[17:41] to do it every six months given we're
[17:44] coming out of the pandemic and short of
[17:46] staff, are the inspections being done? I
[17:50] think that's, you know, that's more
[17:52] important.
[17:52] >> And what the deficiencies are, are they
[17:54] dangerous deficiencies, cosmetic
[17:56] deficiencies? What are they exactly?
[17:59] >> Depending on the turnover too determine
[18:01] how often it's being done.
[18:04] [clears throat]
[18:04] >> So I think that that could be formulated
[18:07] a request for information to the
[18:09] commissioner of social services for give
[18:12] them a, you know, time to report back.
[18:15] You know, not a lot of time because your
[18:17] suspense period for reporting back to
[18:19] the council was kind of condensed.
[18:21] [clears throat]
[18:22] So
[18:24] I don't think a 3 week at least some of
[18:26] the information should be able to be
[18:28] gathered rather quickly.
[18:31] >> Thank you for asking.
[18:37] » So um we can help draft letter next
[18:40] week. you know.
[18:41] >> Okay. Well, we'll work with the city clerk's office and you mad chair to formulate a letter
[18:51] to the commission. [clears throat]
[18:55] » Great.
[19:06] All right. Another discussion I wanted
[19:08] to have. I know DSS is paying a fair
[19:12] amount for people to stay in hotels.
[19:16] So
[19:18] my whole thing with that is I think it
[19:21] would be cheaper for them to get people
[19:24] housing opposed to paying all the money
[19:28] for these hotels
[19:31] really. So
[19:34] we need to come up with some kind of
[19:36] ideas that we could pres present to see
[19:39] how we can go about people
[19:42] staying in the hotels for like 90 days
[19:45] but then having some place to go after
[19:47] that.
[19:49] >> Then I guess we would have to look at
[19:50] what the housing stock truly is in this
[19:53] area especially uh the housing that's uh
[19:57] been put aside for people of low income.
[20:00] You know, if we know what how much how
[20:02] many pieces are available, that might
[20:05] help us uh find a way to accomplish what
[20:09] you want to accomplish.
[20:23] » I'm just trying to understand why would
[20:25] someone be staying in a hotel for a
[20:27] year? It's
[20:28] >> quick and easy.
[20:30] get them off the street immediately.
[20:32] >> Yes.
[20:32] >> Well, I understandable
[20:36] » and then they they
[20:38] >> is it that they get lost in the system?
[20:41] Is it that you know maybe some sort of
[20:45] disability whether it's physical or
[20:48] mental
[20:49] >> that you know apartments are not
[20:52] >> usually they don't have jobs. They don't
[20:54] have jobs.
[20:55] >> And then being in those conditions, the
[20:58] will to thrive is not good at all.
[21:09] As a a followup to the question for
[21:11] information, if you ask how long what's
[21:14] the average amount of pictures staying
[21:17] in temporary housing, hotels, hotels,
[21:20] and what is the transition to permanent
[21:22] housing? What's the, you know, what's
[21:23] the plan? What does DSS I don't know. I
[21:26] mean, does DSS have a plan to transition
[21:29] folks to permanent housing? I don't I
[21:32] don't know. And that's something I think
[21:33] you're all want to find out.
[21:35] >> Living living in a hotel is really hard
[21:37] on a lot of these families. They come
[21:39] and I can only have this kind of stuff
[21:41] because I only have a microwave, so I'm
[21:43] not really cooking. Can you please give
[21:45] me a can opener provide it? There's a
[21:48] lot of
[21:48] >> There's no stove in the hotel. Yeah,
[21:50] there's a lot of really bad points to
[21:52] being in hotels compared to,
[21:55] >> you know, a real atmosphere where you
[21:57] can be a family or or have some personal
[22:00] growth, right?
[22:08] » Okay. Do the hotels meet the cold
[22:11] standards? I know for a fact
[22:16] I've seen seen some hotels
[22:20] daily
[22:22] [laughter]
[22:24] and it's it's horrible for people to
[22:26] have to live that way. So that's
[22:28] something else that you know is my pet
[22:30] peeve that I would like to you know get
[22:34] some answers for and figure out how we
[22:37] can move forward for that to so they can
[22:40] be regulated and mandated to hold you
[22:43] know inspections
[22:46] » that's going to be a really long drawn
[22:48] out process.
[22:50] we got work to do
[22:51] >> not just coming up with solutions
[22:52] because you don't want to displace
[22:54] anybody while they're doing renovations
[22:56] and you don't want to create hardship.
[22:58] Mhm.
[22:59] >> So it's how do you fix it because it's
[23:01] not something that you could and then
[23:04] maybe you know a hotel is a business
[23:08] they may not want to invest in fixing so
[23:10] or they may not want to go through the
[23:14] process
[23:14] >> right
[23:15] >> of the bureaucracy I guess the best way
[23:17] of putting it. So what happens then what
[23:20] happens to those uh residents that stay
[23:23] in there? Well, I think we need to start
[23:25] with DSS
[23:27] >> informing them of, you know, what we're
[23:29] considering and what we're trying to do
[23:31] to make our community better. And then
[23:33] we all have to put our heads together
[23:35] cuz we have to start somewhere.
[23:37] >> Oh, I agree 100%. I'm not disagreeing
[23:39] with No,
[23:40] >> I just um you know, it's definitely no
[23:44] quick solution. That's
[23:45] >> What about code enforcement? Checking
[23:47] with them and finding out what their
[23:48] standards are. Are they the department
[23:50] that would regulate the hotels? Well, do
[23:53] they regulate the hotel?
[23:55] >> This part
[23:58] to check every six months,
[23:59] >> but not the city. Most of a lot of them
[24:01] are not in the city. It's a county.
[24:04] >> I mean, we can we can solve a lot of
[24:05] these problems by having somebody from
[24:07] DSS come as a speaker. We already had
[24:10] that plan
[24:11] >> previously
[24:12] >> and then we all kind of went on vacation
[24:14] for a number of months. Um, but we
[24:16] should invite somebody from DSS here and
[24:20] tell them these are the points we want
[24:21] to talk about and bring all the
[24:22] information. We kind of, you know, pedal
[24:24] them backwards a little bit
[24:27] [clears throat]
[24:27] >> and then we have to state law will
[24:29] supersede county laws. So, are we
[24:33] infringing on anything? So, that's the
[24:36] other thing that we have to look at.
[24:38] Well, the the the county DSS is has to
[24:41] comply with state regulations regarding
[24:43] regard regarding the housing of that
[24:46] existence. That's what this
[24:50] report thinks out there is no they have
[24:52] to responsibility make sure that the
[24:56] with local code you know local codes as
[24:58] well as the reports they have to submit
[25:01] to office of temporary disorary
[25:06] disabilities
[25:08] that yes
[25:16] » the majority of this falls on People
[25:18] walk into the county DSS at 4:30 and
[25:21] they have to find a place to stay that
[25:23] night.
[25:23] >> That's where your hotels come and then
[25:26] it's a process for them to find a house.
[25:28] And you can imagine as many different
[25:29] kinds of people and family there are,
[25:31] there's that many different stories and
[25:33] paths that have to be followed. So, it's very complicated. I'm not sure it's
[25:38] something that the county issues,
[25:42] you know, we can address and I'm not
[25:43] sure that that's why we're here to solve
[25:45] the county issues. we should get
[25:46] somebody from DSS in here and see where
[25:49] we fit in the process.
[25:51] >> Well, these were some ideas and
[25:53] something that was on my heart that I
[25:56] wanted to bring to the forefront that we
[25:58] could start seeking and searching, see
[26:00] what we can do and we're coming up with
[26:02] suggestions. So, for our next meeting,
[26:05] you know, hopefully we can reach out to
[26:07] these people and they will come and we
[26:09] can get some type of answers.
[26:15] Okay.
[26:19] So, we're going to let hotels meet the
[26:21] goals we just talked about.
[26:23] [clears throat] We also talked about
[26:24] who's responsible.
[26:26] Um, we have the city of Skenctity Fair
[26:30] Housing event coming up April 21st.
[26:50] Thank you. [laughter]
[26:55] » I wouldn't been here all day.
[26:59] >> Um, is anyone interested in going to any
[27:02] of these workshops?
[27:06] » It was great. It was a very informative
[27:08] event. Last year I went this year. I'm
[27:11] going to be um out of the area.
[27:13] Unfortunately, I spoke to um
[27:16] and I that would be the day I was could
[27:20] be certainly informative and a good day.
[27:26] Mrs. Le where is it at this show?
[27:29] Yeah. So it's better than
[27:34] >> and they also they have the workshops
[27:36] come on and they also have the um they
[27:38] have the award ceremony 6 to 9.
[27:46] If anyone is interested in going they
[27:49] can see me after.
[27:56] Okay. Okay, we're going to do a little
[27:57] delegation here.
[28:01] I need some help and we really need to
[28:04] get some answers by community. So we
[28:09] have Monica who's collaborating already
[28:11] with the um once connectity
[28:16] who would be willing to um
[28:25] see what our city regulations is as far
[28:28] as the hotels
[28:31] >> who oversees it speaking to code. Is
[28:33] that what you're referring to? Yeah, I
[28:35] need to point some points. So, I need to
[28:37] take care of that.
[28:38] >> I'll do that.
[28:39] >> You'll do that.
[28:57] Wow. We're getting in touch with someone
[28:59] from DSS.
[29:02] Um,
[29:06] can someone identify the local hotels
[29:09] that they know that are um unhoused
[29:15] families are living in
[29:20] that?
[29:22] >> Absolutely.
[29:23] >> Yeah.
[29:28] So, um,
[29:31] Jacqueline, you work at the you work
[29:33] with the, um, food pantries.
[29:36] >> I am the executive director of St.
[29:38] Luke's uh, St. Henity
[29:41] Shares.
[29:42] >> Okay.
[29:45] Would you know any names of these
[29:47] hotels?
[29:48] >> I have spies on the streets that tell me
[29:51] that and I've asked a few because I know
[29:53] they're working next week. Okay. Because
[29:55] it's not guaranteed that we get
[29:58] >> um social services.
[29:59] >> You're never going to find outs
[30:02] >> that hotels are throwing mothers and
[30:05] children out in the day to clean. You're
[30:06] never going to hear that anywhere up in
[30:08] the mouths of people on the street,
[30:11] >> right? So that's why trying to give
[30:13] everybody a job here to do the see what
[30:15] we can gather together so that when we
[30:17] do get them here, we've got proof. This
[30:20] is happening that's happening. You know,
[30:24] we have a leg to stand on.
[30:25] >> And I think Community Action would
[30:27] probably know what they would know a lot
[30:29] of.
[30:30] >> Absolutely. They would know.
[30:31] >> Yep.
[30:35] » Yeah. We get a number of homeless people
[30:37] every week coming signing up at the food
[30:39] pantry and we ask them where they live,
[30:42] where they're staying, and we ask them,
[30:44] you know, what do you need? And they
[30:47] always need the same. Oh, I only have a
[30:49] microwave. It's a little thing, you
[30:50] know.
[30:51] Netflix offensive too.
[30:53] >> They they like to complain and tell us
[30:55] when there's a problem. [snorts]
[30:56] >> And since I know Gary Hughes very well,
[30:58] I have been known to pick up the phone
[31:00] and tell him and he immediately jumps on
[31:03] it. I can tell you that.
[31:11] » Okay. So, Jacqueline, you'll be getting
[31:13] us the list of names.
[31:15] >> I will do my best, ma'am.
[31:17] >> I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
[31:21] Um,
[31:26] Mr. Hoffman, would you be able to check
[31:30] with our public reports to see or
[31:34] somebody from the county to see how our
[31:37] um how the hotels get inspected? I
[31:40] thought I was doing
[31:47] » Okay, sorry about that. That's right.
[31:49] sphere. Um, we got our data done some of
[31:53] the data.
[31:57] So, I think really that's about it for now.
[32:04] >> Kim, I have a couple things I want to
[32:05] mention. I would love a roster of our
[32:08] committee contact information. Sure. I
[32:10] see the email addresses on if you search
[32:12] for them on the emails, but I'd love a
[32:14] roster
[32:15] >> so I can start putting faces with names.
[32:17] Sure. And and the second point is I'm
[32:20] not on Facebook.
[32:22] >> So, praise the Lord. [laughter]
[32:26] >> So, I would love to give you my email
[32:28] address. You can send me the link.
[32:31] >> Oh, sure.
[32:35] » And the other thing I'm going to
[32:36] suggest, there's a terrific book out
[32:38] there called Evicted.
[32:40] >> The evicted
[32:40] >> by Matthew Des.
[32:43] He's won all kinds of awards, started a
[32:45] not for profofit. It's anyone that deals
[32:47] with eviction has to read it.
[32:50] >> When I was on the bench, I made
[32:52] everybody under me read it.
[32:55] >> It's a great book. He's won pulled
[32:56] surprises. He started not for profofits
[32:58] to help the victim people.
[33:00] [clears throat] And it takes you into
[33:01] the lives of these people. It's going to
[33:03] answer a lot of your questions
[33:05] >> about what's going on. This is it's it's
[33:08] in Milwaukee, which is a bigger city
[33:10] than here, but it just it follows like a
[33:13] dozen people's lives and how they get
[33:17] evicted and what their lives are like.
[33:18] And everybody should just It's just a
[33:20] great book. You should read it. Evicted
[33:22] by Matt Desmond. I'm sure it's in I have
[33:25] two copies. I passed them around to my
[33:27] staff. What's that?
[33:28] >> What? Who's the author?
[33:29] >> Matthew Desmond. Like the hotelically,
[33:33] right?
[33:34] >> Well, if I could borrow a copy, that
[33:35] would be good.
[33:37] Yeah, I'm sure they have it there, but
[33:38] I'll try to bring mine to the next
[33:40] meeting. Um, but you know, when I heard
[33:42] some of the questions here, I'm like,
[33:43] "Wow, I got to read the book."
[33:45] [clears throat]
[33:45] >> Uh, because it it gets you in some
[33:49] empathetic, you know, uh, state of mind.
[33:53] >> So, you kind of understand this a little
[33:54] bit more.
[33:55] >> Yeah.
[33:56] >> You know, some people spend their entire
[33:58] lives of avoiding addiction.
[34:01] >> That's what they do.
[34:04] And you can imagine how difficult. So if
[34:06] they get an extra $200 $300, they're not
[34:09] giving it to rent.
[34:11] >> They're going out and buying a loss.
[34:14] And this book brings this stuff home.
[34:17] >> Um so I just think it's a great
[34:18] resource. It's a good idea for everybody
[34:20] to read that if you're involved in this
[34:22] kind of thing. Um so I'll write down my
[34:25] email.
[34:28] >> Can you introduce yourself? I'm sorry.
[34:29] >> I'm sorry. I'm walk school.
[34:32] >> How you doing? Yeah. And um originally
[34:34] from New York City. Um
[34:37] been in Skenctity maybe while now a good
[34:41] decade now. But um I know about
[34:46] >> my dad lives in a rent state apartment.
[34:49] His rents about maybe 700 relatively
[34:54] >> and I can help in that area.
[34:56] >> Okay.
[34:57] >> Yeah. Some type of rent control. He has
[34:59] connect me.
[35:00] >> Okay. So you got that part.
[35:02] >> Okay. Thank you.
[35:03] >> Thank you.
[35:04] >> Okay.
[35:05] >> Yes. Yes.
[35:08] >> Um anyone else have any input? Any
[35:11] concerns?
[35:13] >> Madam Chairman, I I would just add
[35:15] chairman. Um I would just add that you
[35:17] know a lot of the information in your
[35:19] task force is is is charged to report
[35:22] back to the city council is in this in
[35:26] uh in this [laughter]
[35:28] given
[35:32] » [clears throat]
[35:32] >> So I I would recommend that the group
[35:35] look at it, digest it and if they feel
[35:38] comfortable with the numbers and the
[35:40] sources, etc. in that um then they would
[35:43] use that as a base to make a you know
[35:46] once you make your findings and
[35:48] recommendations you can adopt some of
[35:50] the information that's already contained
[35:52] in here because you the eviction rates
[35:54] and things like that. One of the things
[35:57] in the resolution charging charging with
[35:59] task force field.
[36:01] >> So we're looking forward that
[36:02] >> yes.
[36:03] So take a look at that you know it's getting
[36:10] what we want. We're happy with that and
[36:13] that you know and following up on what
[36:17] was you know it's it's it's not only the hotels but also transition housing
[36:22] and affordable that
[36:25] >> and as well as evictions it's that you
[36:29] got the hotels what's the transition
[36:31] plan for long-term housing
[36:35] for that affordability. So,
[36:37] >> okay,
[36:38] >> those are those are areas you can focus
[36:40] in on, [clears throat]
[36:46] » but um
[36:48] this was a lot of reading and I wish I
[36:50] had time to prepare before I got here.
[36:54] So, if you know I would appreciate it if
[36:56] maybe we could get a little bit earlier.
[36:58] >> Well, this this this is my first
[37:00] meeting. Yeah. you know, I wanted to
[37:02] bring everybody together, you know, and
[37:04] I didn't expect anything to really get
[37:06] done today, but just giving everybody an
[37:09] idea of what we're facing and, you know,
[37:13] >> yep,
[37:14] >> everybody get familiar with everybody
[37:16] and everybody put their input in and
[37:19] >> it's going to become a lot more
[37:20] complicated if you listen to the
[37:23] administration no longer wants the
[37:25] federal government to deal with
[37:28] Medicaid. He wants to push it to the
[37:29] cities. SNAP has changed as of FIBO
[37:32] first. So, we're going to be dealing
[37:33] with that three months down the road.
[37:36] Um, health insurance, he wants, you
[37:38] know, like I said, Medicaid, Medicare,
[37:41] and housing. Housing, he doesn't want to
[37:43] pay for people. He'd rather not do that.
[37:47] I almost said some
[37:51] but you know we have to look at the all
[37:53] those things go along with housing every
[37:55] bit of it you know whether they have
[37:58] food whether they have medical
[38:01] you know it's not just the roof over
[38:02] your head hip because all three go
[38:03] together so I think we're going to walk
[38:05] into a lot more things than we think
[38:07] we're going to walk in just trying to
[38:09] deal with housing
[38:16] » well I'm sure everyone here is dedicated
[38:19] and feel the same way I feel. And
[38:22] >> yeah,
[38:23] >> we have a long road ahead of us.
[38:26] >> Ahead of us,
[38:28] >> but um
[38:29] >> I have faith and I know we can conquer
[38:31] some things.
[38:33] >> Something has to be done. You're
[38:34] absolutely correct.
[38:35] >> Yes.
[38:36] >> You know, I have had people come to the
[38:37] panic who are living in dumpsters.
[38:40] >> You know, I I' I've seen it all at this
[38:43] point. Yeah. You know, I really it's
[38:45] just beautiful things that happen to
[38:47] people.
[38:47] >> Yeah. Last time, the last meeting, I
[38:50] think in October, I was telling God,
[38:51] these people living in the cemetery.
[38:53] >> Yeah. Well, that was street where street
[38:55] soldiers started was the people living
[38:57] in the cemeteries. They wanted to help
[39:00] them. So, they gave them tents.
[39:03] >> Tents kept gave them shelter. But the
[39:06] tents also provided a place for bad
[39:09] actors to go in and steal from them and
[39:11] hurt them and raped them and did
[39:13] terrible things. And the police
[39:14] department, I've spoken with certain
[39:16] police, highly placed police officers
[39:19] who said they were trying to help, but
[39:20] in a way they really didn't because
[39:23] these people thought they were safe
[39:24] until they realized they weren't safe.
[39:26] [clears throat]
[39:27] >> So, I mean, yeah, everybody needs a roof
[39:30] over their head and when you're
[39:31] desperate, you'll pretty much do
[39:33] anything. No,
[39:34] >> we have people sleeping outside St.
[39:35] Luke's all the time. Right on right in
[39:37] the door next to my office in the
[39:39] pantry. I usually find people sleeping
[39:41] and we feed them in the morning, give
[39:42] them, you know, coffee, whatever we can
[39:44] do. But you can only do so much.
[39:46] >> Yeah. [clears throat]
[39:51] » Okay. I have two tenative dates for our
[39:54] next meeting.
[39:56] I have April 28 at 6 or May 1st
[40:02] at 6. How does that work for
[40:05] >> April 28th at no?
[40:09] >> Um, Tuesday is the 28th.
[40:11] >> Oh,
[40:12] >> and Friday is the May 1st.
[40:14] >> I see.
[40:16] >> May
[40:17] >> I prefer May 1st?
[40:18] >> May 1st.
[40:20] >> I can do either. I can do May 1st. So,
[40:23] >> neither of them work for me.
[40:26] >> That's right. I zoom in or something.
[40:32] Uh can any of these meetings uh be
[40:35] virtual?
[40:36] >> We don't have that capability. We
[40:38] haven't adopted a local virtual
[40:41] meetings. Okay. Meetings have in person
[40:47] have inerson meetings. So we really do I
[40:50] do a lot of Zoom meetings. It's not the
[40:51] same.
[40:56] Anyone else have any last minute
[40:59] concerns or
[41:02] >> no? But if anyone needs help with their
[41:05] assignments, please feel free to reach
[41:08] out.
[41:08] >> Amanda, what what do you feel like you
[41:10] should do? Because like I said, I'm new
[41:12] at this. I appreciate any and all help
[41:15] and we all going to work together. Um,
[41:18] I can't think of anything right now, but
[41:20] I mean if you know if you're having
[41:22] issues getting through or making contact
[41:24] with code enforcement or you know you
[41:27] guys are having issues getting data that
[41:29] you need, just reach out. I'll be
[41:31] willing to help.
[41:32] >> Okay. I'm going to be reaching out to
[41:33] each each one of you from now until our
[41:36] next meeting, putting our heads
[41:38] together, let you know we're here. we
[41:39] can share information and we're going to
[41:41] get a roster out with everybody's email
[41:44] so everyone can communicate back and
[41:46] forth. Also,
[41:47] >> when is our roughly deadline?
[41:50] >> Um, our deadline for information to be
[41:53] in is going to be July 6.
[41:57] I have to have a
[41:58] >> the full report together. Put
[42:01] >> that over.
[42:04] My next meeting is May. May
[42:06] >> first right here.
[42:10] We'll draft a letter to the commission
[42:13] services requesting that
[42:17] first
[42:20] [clears throat]
[42:22] » Daniel
[42:36] pretty
[42:39] All right. Um, meetings adjourned. Thank
[42:42] you everyone.
[42:46] » Matthew Matthew.
[42:49] >> I'm gonna see if I can find
[42:51] >> I'm sure it's in the library. I'm sure
[42:53] it's on.
[42:54] >> Maybe I find it on Amazon. or if the
[42:57] audience
[43:15] [laughter]
[43:29] told me she I had