1 00:00:38,645 --> 00:09:58,990 [music] 2 00:09:59,000 --> 00:11:16,612 » Woo. 3 00:11:16,622 --> 00:14:41,670 » [music] 4 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,150 » Cuz Kim can't stay long. 5 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,790 All right. So, 6 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 just talking out loud, I know Kim is on 7 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,160 a time crunch as well. 8 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,079 So, government operations and we have 9 00:14:57,079 --> 00:14:58,880 the full complement, you know, just 10 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,320 myself and Kim. Okay. So, it's the out 11 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,240 of the pressing issues. I mean, having a 12 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,920 conversation about trash can stay on the 13 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,880 side. Stay on the timeline. 14 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,880 Yes, government operations can do that. 15 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Um any other pressing issues government 16 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:52,270 operations? 17 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,949 Yeah. 18 00:15:55,959 --> 00:15:56,760 All right. 19 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:03,870 So, you're going to do 20 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,480 So, Kim, are you there? 21 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Just talk about those 22 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,190 and then we'll adjourn after that. 23 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,560 What do you want me to do? No, no, 24 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,600 sorry. We'll just use this seat. 25 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:28,430 Yeah. Okay. 26 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,520 So, you want to prioritize those issues? 27 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Yeah. Uh 28 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:43,350 cuz Kim's on a time crunch as well. 29 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,630 And this is a fine committee. 30 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,520 Any others? 31 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,520 And clean and government operations. 32 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Do you need one of Kim's chairs? I have 33 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:59,270 a stack of chairs. Okay. 34 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,560 And 35 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,520 the further conversation. 36 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,079 And so, we can you know, we can keep 37 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:13,630 Okay, perfect. 38 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,230 Okay, right. 39 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Yes, everything else can be discussed. 40 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Okay. 41 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,560 All right. 42 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Good evening. I'd like to call this 43 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Grand Rapids City Council Committee 44 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 meeting to order. Today is May 4th, 45 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,520 2026. I apologize for the delay and the 46 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,240 rearranging due to some quorum concerns. 47 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,240 We are going to be readjusting some key 48 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,880 priority items 49 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,760 for consideration with respect to Ms. 50 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,280 Wiggins' time, which is a 51 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,640 uh limited for tonight. So, everyone 52 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,920 please bear in mind for the slight 53 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,360 adjustments. Uh so, moving into 54 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,040 government operations, we will be doing 55 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,679 uh item number one out of Health and 56 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:55,520 Rec, authorizing the mayor to enter an 57 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,160 agreement with the USTA for the 58 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,679 installation and operation of a smart 59 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:02,040 access lock and system in coordination 60 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,280 with the Serve Tennis Management 61 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Program. 62 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,120 Additionally, when we are moving into 63 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,040 government operations, are three items 64 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,800 from the Finance Committee. 65 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:17,390 2026 to 2027 66 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,360 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 67 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:20,600 Um 68 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,480 We are also going to moving into 69 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,080 government operations is 2026 to 2027 US 70 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Department of Housing and Urban 71 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Development allocations. 72 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,200 Call for public hearing for 2026 to 2027 73 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,080 annual action plan. 74 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,640 And the call for public hearing to amend 75 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,640 section 186-25 76 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,040 of the Central Park Tennis Courts fee 77 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,560 and reservation system. 78 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,080 And the last two items we'll be moving 79 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,600 into government operations are from City 80 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,640 Development and Planning. The first two 81 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,560 items to review amending section 9-6 of 82 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,080 the Schenectady City Code to increase 83 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,040 membership of the Downtown Special 84 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Assessment District Board from 9 to 15 85 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,200 members and to amend such membership 86 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,960 qualifications. 87 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,120 And the call for public hearing to amend 88 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:05,360 chapter 161 of the Schenectady City 89 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,360 Code. 90 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:07,679 Those are the items that will be moving 91 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:13,870 to government operations. 92 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:20,830 So, these five to government operations. 93 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:29,310 Thank you. 94 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:38,669 So, I'll start with that. 95 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:40,080 At this time, I'd like to call to order 96 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,350 the Committee on Government Operations. 97 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,720 First order of business is authorizing 98 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,000 the mayor to enter into an agreement 99 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,640 with the USTA for installation and 100 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,480 operation of smart access lock set 101 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,520 system in coordination with severe 102 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,440 tennis management programs. Presenting 103 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:04,510 Chris Waller. 104 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Good evening. 105 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,440 Um in your packet was provided 106 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,840 contract draft contract and information 107 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,240 deck on the system. It is a algorithm 108 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,360 based access system that we are looking 109 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:20,200 to put at the newly reconstructed 110 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Central Park tennis facility. 111 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,720 The locks will allow only those who 112 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400 access them through the Surf tennis app 113 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,000 to have access. 114 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Um it is a basic form of security, but a 115 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,520 form of security nonetheless, whereas 116 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,240 right now our tennis courts do not have 117 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,480 any forms of security. It will allow us 118 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,440 to not staff the tennis courts, allow us 119 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,400 to charge the rates that we want and 120 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,600 track data and monitor who's using the 121 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,840 courts on a daily annual basis. Uh this 122 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,800 is a USTA based program, one that the 123 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,800 USTA uses on all their courts. USTA is a 124 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,640 partner on this project, so we thought 125 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,000 it would be in the interest of everyone 126 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,800 to use the USTA sponsored program. Um the contract through the 127 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,600 contract it states that the USTA will be 128 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,880 paying for the two lock sets in the 129 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,360 first year of operations for the lock 130 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,400 sets as well as the giving us $1,250 for 131 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,920 the installation of the gates. 132 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,840 And then uh after the first year the 133 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,200 costs are $500 for the one lock and $300 134 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,520 for the second. 135 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,120 Um which we'll have to put into our 136 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,800 operating budget. 137 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Um 138 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,640 and the idea is is that these will help 139 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,720 us just keep out you know people who use 140 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800 tennis courts as 141 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,760 dog parks or skate parks or things like 142 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,680 that and try to just keep the the courts 143 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,160 in a pristine condition. Um there is no 144 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,800 term. It is a just rolling contract that 145 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,440 we cancel there that this is not a 146 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,560 binding 147 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,040 contract where we're signing it for a 148 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,560 minimum period of X amount of years. It 149 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,440 is just a year to year contract with the 150 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,150 USTA. 151 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,360 And those two numbers again you said 152 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,000 you're looking at how much? 153 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 So this year will be zero. 154 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,470 Next year will be for the two $830. 155 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,560 And then the increase after that the 156 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,830 year after that or stay at that amount? 157 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,240 You've heard the presentation by Mr. 158 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Waller. 159 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,400 Any questions? 160 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Comments, concerns? Council President 161 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Waller. Uh thank you Mr. Waller. I know 162 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,800 there were three options to consider for 163 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,800 the doors. Did you have a preference or 164 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,440 I didn't know what the options were. 165 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:44,710 >> Yes, we will be working with option 166 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,520 No, padlock. We will be working with 167 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,000 option three the code lock system. 168 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,400 And then the so the gates will be 169 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400 fashioned as shown on option three 170 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,080 with the reinforced handles 171 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,960 and lock set. 172 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,160 So that that's what we're doing with 173 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,120 that facility. We'll have two uh gate A 174 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,000 and a gate B. All the other gates will 175 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,400 be locked with a typical city standard 176 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,040 lock cuz that is not for the public. We 177 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,840 really want to 178 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,440 treat this facility as it has two main 179 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,640 entrances and everyone going through 180 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,840 such. We uh city will have access 181 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,600 um to the facility with our own private 182 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800 code that's programmed into it and then 183 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,440 for large tournaments and events where 184 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 the whole facility is open you can with 185 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,480 a master key turn off the system so that 186 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 the locks are just like a door so that 187 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,760 you don't have people coming for a 188 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,830 tournament putting in locks. 189 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,840 And then I'm sorry. 190 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,120 Uh I had an additional question that 191 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,000 kind of loops into the fee and 192 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,080 reservation system all together since 193 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,640 you're already here. 194 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,120 Um I do have some hesitancies with us 195 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,840 charging our residents to use community 196 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,040 facilities and resources. 197 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,160 Is there any ability for us to provide a 198 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,679 code without someone having an account 199 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:58,880 to request that if that makes sense? 200 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,920 So 201 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,440 uh for the next portion where we talk 202 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,200 about fees, but if we wanted to create different tiers 203 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,600 there are ways to do that. So 204 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,679 essentially what you what we would have 205 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:12,240 to do however is put that information in 206 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560 there to show that they are a member or 207 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 a resident into the system and then when 208 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,280 they log into the system they wouldn't 209 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,440 have that charge, but we would have to 210 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120 do that in the back office end of it. 211 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,160 Otherwise it would do it's essentially 212 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,560 proving the residency. That's something 213 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,360 that we would have to work out. So there 214 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,280 would have to be some kind of an 215 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,440 application for someone to make to say 216 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,120 that yes I'm a resident and I want to be 217 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,040 in the system as a member resident so 218 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,400 that I have a zero fee. Perfect. Thank 219 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,080 you. 220 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,280 Uh the one thing just to point out to 221 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,040 you with the the Surf tennis just want 222 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,440 to give you the overview. 223 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Surf tennis and smart access they are 224 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,840 they work in conjunction. So what it 225 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280 allows us to do is we now have 18 courts 226 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,880 and you will reserve the court that you 227 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,440 want as long as that court is available. 228 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,840 So that's what we would go to the 229 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,280 facility and you would say I want to 230 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,280 play court six for this hour or two 231 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,640 hours and then program and then it would 232 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,520 say okay and then give you the code so 233 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,520 that 234 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,280 that's important because it's a back 235 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,800 office system 236 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,000 and that's similar to what we have at 237 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,320 the golf course where you'll be able to 238 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,720 reserve the courts and manage the courts 239 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,640 as an asset whereas before um it was 240 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,160 kind of a few would look all the courts 241 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,240 are taken I don't know what we're going 242 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,400 to be able to actually be able to 243 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,880 reserve and know when the courts are. 244 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,720 Um additionally because of the new 245 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,120 layout of the courts it's a very 246 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,400 efficient 247 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,080 uh layout using the pod system of access 248 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,679 we'll be actually able to run small 249 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,679 events and sectional events if there's 250 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:37,880 not 18 and actually have the public 251 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,679 available to play other courts and 252 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:41,120 they'll be completely separate from each 253 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,800 other. So the utilization of the courts 254 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,510 should be very high. 255 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Any questions, comments, concerns? Mr. 256 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,640 uh what's the staffing cost right now or 257 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,880 would it be if you just had the staff 258 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,440 without the lock and gate? 259 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840 Do you have that number? Uh Paul do you 260 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,960 remember what that number was? 261 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,000 >> We would have to staff a seasonal at the tennis courts. Well we staff a 262 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,679 seasonal you need to staff more than one 263 00:26:02,679 --> 00:26:04,360 because usually the courts start to play 264 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,360 kind of 7:00 in the morning and in the 265 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,960 summer hours it's late up until 9:00 so 266 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,840 8-hour shift ends and then people come 267 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,360 in and break for lunch. So usually we 268 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,600 staff with seasonal employees. 269 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Um so 270 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,560 But in excess of probably $25,000 for 271 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,679 the summer. Yeah. 272 00:26:22,679 --> 00:26:23,880 Oh. 273 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Thank you. Yep. 274 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Any comments, other comments, questions, 275 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840 concerns? Seeing none Mr. President 276 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,360 Committee. 277 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,480 I'm good. 278 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,160 A motion to 279 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,280 authorize the mayor to enter into 280 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,679 agreement with the USTA. Second. 281 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,000 It's been moved. 282 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Second. 283 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,360 It's been moved properly seconded. All 284 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,200 those in favor? Aye. 285 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Motion carried. Thank you. 286 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,160 Mr. Waller. Second on the list 287 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,400 we have 2026-2027 US Department of 288 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,320 Housing and Urban Development 289 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:59,630 allocations with Miss Alexandria Harper. 290 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Good evening city council members. I've 291 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,880 come before you today requesting that we 292 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,560 adopt a resolution authorizing 293 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,080 acceptance of our 2026-2027 294 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280 HUD funding as listed for CDBG which is 295 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040 our community development block grant. 296 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,830 We received $2,032,803 297 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,280 for our home funding, $1,263 298 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,960 and 299 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,960 ESG $180,000 300 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,560 $125,095 301 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,760 just round it out my apologies. Um this 302 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,840 is our 303 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,640 um annual allocation. We received our 304 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,560 final award letter from HUD so just our 305 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,120 resolution so that we're able to move 306 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,360 forward with our application 307 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,120 allocations. 308 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,440 Any comments, questions, concerns on 309 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,360 this? 310 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,880 Seeing none do I have a motion? So 311 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,360 moved. 312 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,360 Second. Second. It's been moved properly 313 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,280 seconded. All those in favor? Aye. 314 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,960 Motion carried. Thank you. Item number 315 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,920 two CPHB 2026 annual action plan Miss 316 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,360 Harper. 317 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,679 I come before you again. It 318 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,640 I am asking to call for a public 319 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,720 hearing. Our final 320 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,040 our draft allocations will be available 321 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,120 to the public on May 11th and in an 322 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,200 effort to stay on our federal government 323 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,080 timeline I'm asking today to call for a 324 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200 public hearing at the next council 325 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,040 meeting. Again that information will be 326 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:23,990 available to you and public on May 11th. 327 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919 Any comments, questions, concerns? 328 00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:28,520 Mr. Chairman just for the record that 329 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 the public hearing would be in May 26th. 330 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,880 is a holiday. May after 331 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Memorial Day. And that that's plenty of 332 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,880 time for the for the to be posted. 333 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400 May 11th it has to be posted prior so 334 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 May 11th is will be our posting to May 335 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,480 11th is the posting May 26th is the 336 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,270 actual public hearing. Yes. Thank you. 337 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,679 Any comments, questions, concerns? 338 00:28:50,679 --> 00:28:52,400 Seeing none do I have a motion? So 339 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,080 moved. 340 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,960 It's been properly moved and seconded. 341 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320 All those in favor? Aye. Motion carried. 342 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Thank you. 343 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Third action Excuse me fourth item on 344 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600 the list CPHB amend section 186 Central 345 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Park tennis courts fees and reservations 346 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,550 with Mr. Paul LaFond. 347 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Good evening. 348 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Hello. This is a call for a public 349 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440 hearing to amend 350 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,400 Again call for a public hearing to amend 351 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400 chapter 186-25. 352 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Um 353 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,000 some of the language is outdated in the 354 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560 current city code and the new language 355 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,480 that would be added would um 356 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520 with regards to fee structure and pod 357 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,840 structure. Pod structure is for the 358 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,159 tournaments and league play and then 359 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:41,120 there currently is a fee structure for 360 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,960 residents, non-residents, 361 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480 um non-profits and 362 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,120 myself 363 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,720 City Engineer Chris Williams, Parks 364 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Director Billy Masika, and Deputy Mayor 365 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Williams met with Caesar Corporation and 366 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,920 went over some of the language. And we 367 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,720 do have some of the language. 368 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720 So, it is to amend and start charging a 369 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 fee that we feel is adequate for the 370 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,360 playtime. And we did do some research, 371 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360 looked around in Escanaba, 372 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 smaller places, the school district, and 373 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,720 um 374 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,680 the school district and and we are under 375 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,800 what they would be charging for their 376 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,040 park. It's the same number of courts 377 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,680 that the city school district 378 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,080 but they do charge 379 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680 more money per hour. 380 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Thank you, Mr. Williams. What was the 381 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,240 fee charged? Just for the difference. 382 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Um did you get the Did you copy it? 383 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,120 >> not get a chance, unfortunately, to see 384 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,600 it. 385 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:36,190 Uh page 38. 386 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240 $15 per hour per court. Correct. And 387 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,880 then there's the half-day charges. For 388 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640 three courts, it's $50 per hour for 389 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520 three courts. $250 half-day for five to 390 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,360 six and a half hours for three courts. 391 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520 $500 full day 10 to 12 and a half hours 392 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,800 for three courts. 393 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,000 Correct. 394 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,040 I just wanted to do that to make sure 395 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,000 that we know and it's on record and said 396 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,320 out loud for those that are watching at 397 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640 home. Any comments, questions, concerns? 398 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,200 Council President Williams. Uh so, 399 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120 definitely thank you uh Mr. LaFontaine 400 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680 for providing the legislation changes 401 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880 and also the fee structure. I do have to 402 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,480 admit very hesitant charging residents 403 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720 to use facilities. Um 404 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,120 I know this can very much be interpreted 405 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,720 as 406 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280 charging them twice. So, I'm paying 407 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,040 taxes and then having another fee 408 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280 associated with it. Uh 409 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,720 I think that's something that I don't 410 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,240 think that's something I do not feel 411 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,200 comfortable 412 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400 uh voting in favor of. My one question 413 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400 is, do we currently have a fee structure 414 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,360 in place for the tennis courts? Yes. 415 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,160 And then comparison, do these adjusted 416 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,840 costs exceed those or are they still in 417 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,600 line with them? And my my question I'm 418 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,800 getting to is, is there the ability for 419 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,640 this current fee structure to absorb the 420 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,160 cost for the residents so that we are 421 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160 definitely having financial expectations 422 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,800 for outside members coming in and 423 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,480 enjoying our recreational facilities? Um 424 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,320 but I I would like to ensure that we are 425 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,080 protecting our residents from, again, 426 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,360 asking to pay twice for city resources. 427 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Well, Mr. Chairman, 428 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,800 the current fee structure has not been 429 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,480 in force for a number of years. So, we 430 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,480 were not getting any revenue. 431 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,720 We've made 432 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,480 huge investments in this and if the 433 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,160 correlate this more like to the golf 434 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880 course, so yes, the city 435 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,360 uh 436 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760 has created the environment and done 437 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640 some financing so that the golf course 438 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,320 is there, but individuals pay when they 439 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,560 play 440 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,520 golf. There is variance within that 441 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,080 structure for either residents or 442 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,600 non-residents. 443 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,440 And so, the tennis courts for 444 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,960 uh last 445 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,000 eight years, 10 years, 446 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,679 the fee structure has been in place. Uh 447 00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:47,800 anybody that wanted to voluntarily pay 448 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,800 could 449 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360 have been more than welcome to do that, 450 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,160 but 451 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240 the cost of collecting it and 452 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,400 maintaining it was just too complex and 453 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,840 we wouldn't have made money on it. So, 454 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,080 now 455 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,640 we're looking to go back to a system 456 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920 with some of these controls. We have 457 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360 taken what was a nice facility and 458 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,880 really made it a world-class facility 459 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,320 when it opens. And so, looking to have 460 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,679 some fee structure in place so that 461 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:16,160 there's going to be revenue to do some 462 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,480 of the maintenance for uh the nets, uh 463 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,320 cleaning the surface of the courts, 464 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,600 other 465 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,280 uh ancillary maintenance items that will 466 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720 allow the facility to 467 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,400 uh again be utilized in a manner that is 468 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,880 uh consistent with all the great work 469 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,320 we've done in Central Park. There is so 470 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800 many offerings there. It's uh 471 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,520 just uh another addition to uh 472 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480 you know, past record of 473 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920 municipal investment. 474 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,720 And 475 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,240 could there are courts available on 476 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Michigan Avenue, uh Jerry Baraga and 477 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Karoub Park has tennis courts that there 478 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880 are no fees associated with. 479 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,960 Thank you. What's the fee structure 480 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,720 difference as it relates to non-resident 481 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,440 to resident for playing the playing for 482 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320 tournament, playing for court, playing 483 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,120 on a regular basis? 484 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,720 >> Correct. Yeah, correct. 485 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:11,120 I That was passed through uh 486 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,600 an amendment to the code. It's I have it 487 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,879 down on my wall. I don't have it right 488 00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:17,359 here. And I know non-profits were I 489 00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:19,960 think we were $14 for 490 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120 non-city residents and 491 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,359 I'm not sure. I mean, it's I do have it. 492 00:34:24,359 --> 00:34:27,760 There is a resolution for that from a few years 493 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,280 ago, several years ago. 494 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Thank you. I could forward that to you 495 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,000 and scan it. 496 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,320 >> If you could, please. Councilman 497 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,120 Williams. Thank you. I think what I'd be 498 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,679 more comfortable with is if we 499 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,440 previously had the expectation of people 500 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560 voluntary paying voluntarily paying, I 501 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,520 can imagine those numbers are very very 502 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,240 low to non-existent. Um what I can find 503 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,840 myself supporting 504 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,359 definitely have no issue with pushing 505 00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:50,520 this forward for a call for public 506 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,280 hearing to hear officially, formally 507 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,080 from the community. Although I imagine 508 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,320 there'll be a lot of angst. Um what I 509 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,920 could find myself supporting is having a 510 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480 tiered roll out where having this 511 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,040 initially proceed with non-residents and 512 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,000 the tournament fees. And I would like to 513 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 see a further assessment of what money 514 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,800 is brought into the city and if there 515 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,720 are additional considerations we need to 516 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,480 make for residents. Uh I think it'd be more appropriate to to 517 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,960 have that kind of tailored roll out 518 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,520 rather than saying altogether one thing 519 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,840 on our residents 520 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,480 to 521 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,359 fee structure that hasn't been 522 00:35:22,359 --> 00:35:24,000 previously expected. I think it's 523 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,880 different than golf. You don't expect to 524 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,720 golf for free, but this has been a 525 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,160 resource that has been extended to our 526 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,000 community and I know it is a nice 527 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,840 resource and there are other options. I 528 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640 think very much that comes across poorly 529 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,600 as a you can't play at this nice 530 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040 facility, go to the other ones for free. 531 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,520 I don't think optically there's a nice 532 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:46,310 way to communicate that to the to the other facilities are 533 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,920 first class also. We've done that. 534 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,920 All of the 535 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,280 pickleball and tennis courts in 536 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,480 Bellevue, we're doing some of the crack 537 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,120 sealing maintenance on the ones on 538 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Michigan Avenue. 539 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,080 Uh 540 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,750 and again, they shouldn't be viewed as 541 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,200 inferior, second rate, but this is now 542 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 top of the line and the surface is 543 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,080 different than the other courts. 544 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,760 Mr. Mayor, I appreciate you standing on 545 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120 that. I do think that just 546 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,359 based on 547 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,960 easy optics as Councilman Williams has 548 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,120 stated, obviously our new facility is is 549 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,680 going to be completely different than 550 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,640 the other facilities even when we 551 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,720 resurfaced it and the work that's been 552 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,320 put into it. I don't want to belittle 553 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,480 the work that's been put into the new 554 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600 Central Park facility area 555 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520 on Arthur Street place, but uh Mr. 556 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,960 LaFontaine, if you could potentially 557 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,520 provide us I mean, this is obviously 558 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,760 just a vote for public hearing. If you 559 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,200 could provide us with a little bit of 560 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,440 language that would um prove what that 561 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,920 would look like for that tiered system 562 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,320 for residents to be able to access that 563 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,800 at a much reduced cost um 564 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,480 compared to what you have currently have 565 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,120 now. Uh 566 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,240 and this is just for the internal 567 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,000 working as well to kick around. If you 568 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,359 could email that with me and Councilman 569 00:37:02,359 --> 00:37:03,960 uh Council President Williams just so we 570 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,640 can have an idea of where we stand as we 571 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040 get to public hearing. If the public 572 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,200 comes forward and says that they hate 573 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,520 this concept, I want to be prepared to 574 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,600 move forward with something else. Okay. 575 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,680 Thank you. 576 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,720 And then I'm 577 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:15,840 Councilman Williams, I'd recommend 578 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,440 sending that to the same just so she 579 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,760 could push Miss Mike Lucy to push that 580 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,480 to the rest of the council people. 581 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,920 Mr. Chairman, so this will be a 582 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,560 resolution calling for a public hearing 583 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,520 on May 26th. Um what's before you is 584 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,320 the draft language 585 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,040 reflecting the new smart gate system and 586 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160 deleting the old language which well, 587 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040 the whole section really needs to be 588 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,800 redone in light of the smart gate system. So, the uh 589 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,880 proposed amendment to the code 16186.25 590 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600 bracketed language is deleting all that 591 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,720 old language. The new language is 592 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,560 underlined and that's reflecting the 593 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,480 smart gate system. And then regarding 594 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,240 the the the fees which are 595 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,040 uh they are to be set by resolution by 596 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,720 the council going forward that rather 597 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,640 than having two separate pieces of 598 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,000 legislation because it's a new system, 599 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,120 the public hearing will cover both the 600 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,200 amendment of the ordinance as well as 601 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,240 the fees and which is attached to the 602 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,040 proposed ordinance. Perfect. Thank you. 603 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,560 This will be posted May 11th as well for 604 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480 the public hearing on May 26th. It it 605 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,720 would be posted in the interim time. If there's any updates to the fee 606 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,320 schedule based on the comments here 607 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,080 tonight, the you know, the 608 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,840 Mr. LaFontaine can give it to the the 609 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,720 city clerk to for posting onto the 610 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,680 website for the city. Thank you much. 611 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Councilman Williams. I have a final 612 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,800 question. Thank you. Any uh unforeseen 613 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,600 timelines? I know the tennis season is 614 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,040 essentially now got to be we have 615 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,359 another snow day which very much feels 616 00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,200 like that. 617 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,480 Um just so we're aware to expedite her. 618 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,760 Well, the the tennis courts themselves 619 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,440 are scheduled to 620 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,880 be open When will they be open first? 621 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,359 June 1st. 622 00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:57,640 Providing weather accommodates the the 623 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,040 last Final question, please. 624 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,030 Thank you. 625 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040 And that gives you a little time to 626 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,520 install the new lock system as well. 627 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,920 Yeah, the lock system is will be 628 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,320 installed shortly after. Correct? The 629 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,760 lock system is with the June 1st opening 630 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,280 at the tennis company and should be in 631 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680 the next week. Perfect. Thank you so 632 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,400 much. Any other comments, questions, 633 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,120 concerns? 634 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,080 Seeing none, do we have a motion? Uh 635 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160 call for public hearing. Yes. Motion to 636 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,359 call for public hearing has been moved. 637 00:39:26,359 --> 00:39:28,040 Properly seconded. All those in favor? 638 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,280 Aye. 639 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080 So moved. 640 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Next order of business, CR for National 641 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840 Police Appreciation 642 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,080 This is a resolution just recognizing 643 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,960 the officers that have laid in line for 644 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,800 our city area across the nation. This is 645 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,520 nationally recognized 646 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520 resolution is ready to be put forward. 647 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120 Comments, questions, concerns? 648 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,200 Seeing none, do I have a motion for 649 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120 resolution? So moved. Is there a move 650 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,680 properly seconded? All those in favor? 651 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,520 Aye. 652 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,480 Second, National Teacher Appreciation 653 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,240 Week, which kicks off tomorrow. This is 654 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,000 a resolution recognizing our educators 655 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,120 inside of the school system, 656 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,680 particularly here in the city of 657 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,520 Schenectady. Is there any comments, 658 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600 questions, concerns on this? 659 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,480 Seeing none, do I have a motion? So 660 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,200 moved. 661 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Is there a move properly seconded? All 662 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,800 those in favor? Aye. 663 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,400 Last of the resolutions is Memorial Day 664 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,680 resolution in the city of Schenectady 665 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,760 recognizing Memorial Day on May 25th of 666 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,560 this month. 667 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,880 It is a yearly nationally recognized 668 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,160 occurrence. 669 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,560 Nothing special here about this 670 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,000 resolution. Is there any comments, 671 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,920 questions, concerns? 672 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,760 No. 673 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,760 Do I have a motion? So moved. So moved. 674 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Is there a move properly seconded? All 675 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480 those in favor? Aye. 676 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,120 Next, we have the dumping site to small 677 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,600 park and recreational pilot program. 678 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,040 I'll do it by myself, chairman of this 679 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,920 committee. This program would allow us 680 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,000 to take a 681 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,040 piece of land. Per the legislation that 682 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680 was written, it would take the Wyoming 683 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640 Street access where we know there's been 684 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,840 an issue of dumping and turn that into a 685 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040 recreational {slash} small park area, 686 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,400 which would allow for the area to be 687 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,760 fenced off for trail cams to be put up 688 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,480 to negate dumping sites and would access 689 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,413 a small, if allowable per budget, 690 00:41:07,413 --> 00:41:09,560 [snorts] small gravel path, table, and 691 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,240 no swing sets to create a small 692 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,960 recreational area to deter dumping on 693 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,640 that site. 694 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,470 Comments, questions, concerns? 695 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,240 Councilman Owens. Uh sincerely, I think 696 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,680 we need to evaluate these types of 697 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,160 spaces which linger and present variety 698 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160 of options, one of which is just prompt 699 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960 for dumping absent true enforcement. I 700 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,160 think looking at them with a alternative 701 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,880 lens of how do we 702 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,320 provide more green space in a natural 703 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,040 way that makes them more engaging and 704 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,080 open 705 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,520 to other activities besides illegal 706 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,440 dumping, I think is important. Uh 707 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,160 definitely we can do it with a cost 708 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,400 consideration in mind. Truly being a 709 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,960 part of this cleanup as I know a number 710 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,920 of other council members have been you 711 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,520 know, the chairs being present here 712 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,200 tonight. Uh 713 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,480 truly the community feels hostage 714 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160 to these types of behaviors dumping and 715 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040 I think if we remove that opportunity 716 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,760 from individuals misusing the space and 717 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,920 realigning it with something that's very 718 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,080 positive, beautiful, beautifying, I 719 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,600 think truly it has us look at 720 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,600 Schenectady with a different lens. So, I 721 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,240 could be in favor of this. I would 722 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,160 definitely like to see different plans 723 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,160 and expectations for how our chief 724 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120 engineer or also 725 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,840 Mr. Misika 726 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,720 might potentially have ideas as well. 727 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,160 Thank you. 728 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,800 Uh my only question was it says low 729 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,960 cost. I'd like to know what 730 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600 you're defining low cost as cuz I know 731 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,800 when we looked at something for Mr. 732 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,160 Johnson a couple weeks ago, 733 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,880 there was a a number associated with it. 734 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,000 So, I would just like to know what we 735 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920 are considering low cost. Uh certainly 736 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,480 low cost for considering for a small 737 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,920 park and recreational area, the number 738 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,080 was right around the $60,000 mark. By 739 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,680 designating that area as a small park 740 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,960 and recreation, we can actually use the 741 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,280 grant funding that is allowed to be 742 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,320 moved over. If I'm speaking incorrectly, 743 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,000 Mr. Brown, please feel free to stop me, 744 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,760 but with that grant money that we have, 745 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,800 say that we're filling up the pool with 746 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,960 $260,000 left over money could be used 747 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,640 for something like that, which would be 748 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,120 at low cost to remainder money of the 749 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,080 city. So, we could swing that money over 750 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,360 for the grants. We don't lose that grant 751 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,200 money. The pilot program is successful, 752 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,240 we can continue to use it going forward 753 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,520 as we receive different grant money so 754 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,160 we want to build it into the budget. So, 755 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,520 you're talking specifically the ARPA 756 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,280 funding that we recaptured. I'm talking 757 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,800 about that funding for this project, but 758 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,120 any funding going forward will allow you 759 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,720 to do such as you label it as parks and 760 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,680 recreation. 761 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560 Uh Ms. Carver is not here. Um 762 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,000 Mr. Mayor, are we allowed to use that 763 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,360 ARPA funding for a project like this? 764 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000 Have to check uh 765 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 the if it falls inside the scope and 766 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,400 follows the scope, then so. 767 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,960 I'm in this area, 768 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,560 but in general comments, 769 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,560 I appreciate all the time and effort 770 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,960 that went in there to clean it up. Uh 771 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400 makes a big difference. We then had a 772 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,360 complaint of somebody dumping after 773 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,360 uh 774 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,359 cleanup has been done. The 775 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:01,280 making more generic comments as opposed 776 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,359 to specific ones here because the 777 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,960 follow-up is still being done. It was a 778 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,400 property owner on the street who was 779 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,240 just dumping stuff over the back of 780 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,800 their fence. 781 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,440 And so, it becomes very hard to 782 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,880 maintain property like that if you have 783 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,640 the people who are living there who are 784 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,400 part of the problem and creating the 785 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,870 issue in place. 786 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,400 I think to your point, I I agree with 787 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,800 you that is part of the problem being in 788 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,680 the city. That's why as well as in the 789 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,480 LR that I put in is for the trail cam so 790 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,320 this way you can see who's actually 791 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080 allowing for an enforcement process to 792 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,320 be in place. It's not just a feel good, 793 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600 it's practical um as well as allowing 794 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,359 for officers to enforce that process. 795 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,640 Then if we find that it's a homeowner 796 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,200 that is doing this dumping after so many 797 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,200 people have volunteered their time to 798 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,920 clean up a neighborhood, I think that 799 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,480 the the officers as well would be in 800 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,200 favor of making it easy enforcement 801 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,110 going forward. 802 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,040 Councilman Owens. Uh I'd say to that 803 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,560 point, definitely like giving credit 804 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,240 where credit is due. If I'm correct, 805 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,680 there was kind of a legislator who kind 806 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,760 of forwarded that comment to Chief 807 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040 Whipple. Truly a testament to both of 808 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,560 them for taking upon themselves to 809 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,760 vocalize those concerns. And I say that 810 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,160 for a number of reasons, the one in 811 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,359 which is 812 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:14,560 if you see something, say something. I 813 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,800 think a lot of people around the city 814 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,680 just think that if I even if I do say 815 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,440 something, nothing is going to happen. 816 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,760 That is the only way to ensure that 817 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840 nothing happens. By vocalizing the 818 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,520 issues or the pain points in our city is 819 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,320 how we identify these issues, not 820 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,240 assuming what people know or don't know, 821 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:29,680 and then allowing the appropriate 822 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,359 parties to respond in a manner that is 823 00:45:32,359 --> 00:45:33,720 indicative of us running a city 824 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,520 effectively. So, I think in this 825 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560 scenario, definitely think that most 826 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,000 homeowners would know what you can and 827 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,080 cannot do. Uh 828 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,320 chalk that up to as a lack of 829 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,600 understanding. 830 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,280 Uh but sincerely, I think once notified, 831 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,040 this individual quickly uh 832 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,040 cleaned up that area and I hope will 833 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,760 understand the gravity of containing 834 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,840 that type of behavior moving forward. 835 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,200 Um and in the grand scheme of things, 836 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,720 this is essentially one less resident 837 00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:59,359 that we have to deal with in addressing 838 00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:01,240 these types of behaviors. Uh so, I 839 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:02,480 applaud this effort and I look forward 840 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,840 to seeing how it can continue uh so that 841 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,240 we can look at not just this area, but 842 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,440 also other potential areas throughout 843 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,040 the city. Councilman Owens. I think 844 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,840 Comments, questions, concerns? 845 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,800 Seeing none, do I have a motion? 846 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,600 So moved. 847 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,320 Is there a move properly seconded? 848 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,040 The pilot program is going to take This 849 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,680 has to have a public hearing, Mr. 850 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,400 No, are you are you looking for what 851 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,160 taking money out of the ARPA funding 852 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,440 that's left over for the first $60,000 853 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,800 to do 854 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,880 I think it's just a resolution. 855 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,240 But not sure that we need to make that 856 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:38,000 We got to make We have to make sure that money that's being programmed here 857 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,120 is qualified under the ARPA. Should I 858 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,240 amend the motion to include that 859 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:43,880 statement? For 860 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,280 you can put it in pending you know, if 861 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,320 it qualifies under the ARPA funding 862 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,280 program. So, 863 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,800 Councilman Owens. No, go. 864 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,440 So, I'd say 865 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,160 wanting to see the scope of the project, 866 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,120 I think having those details in 867 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,040 addition, I can 868 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,480 formally say I'm in agreement with this. 869 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,600 I think but absent having actually just 870 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,640 some documentation of what that scope of 871 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,240 the project would look like, 872 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,400 I would want to see that first. 873 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,840 >> You can motion to table 874 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,359 Uh I would agree. I would like to see 875 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:12,359 um the detail of what's going to be 876 00:47:12,359 --> 00:47:13,680 done. You know, it says in here the city 877 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,880 engineer will write a site site 878 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,240 assessment. 879 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,320 Um so, I would just like to see what the 880 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,320 cost like the breakdown would be and 881 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,600 then go from there 882 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,359 before we move forward with this. Mr. 883 00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:24,520 Chairman, do you want to put it off for 884 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,680 2 weeks for those reports? We can do 885 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,560 that. 886 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,960 At this time, Mr. Brown, I'll take your 887 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,760 recommendation of tabling this for 2 888 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,840 weeks to the next council cycle so this 889 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000 way we can get the appropriate 890 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,640 information and detailing of what that 891 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,840 looks like from our city engineer. 892 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,520 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, sir. 893 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,000 I appreciate you. 894 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,480 Next on the list, second to last, we 895 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,520 have re-amending section 9-6 of 896 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,680 Schenectady City Codes to increase the 897 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,960 membership of the Downtown Special 898 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359 Assessment District Board from 9 to 15 899 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:53,200 members and amend to such a membership 900 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,920 qualifications. PH was on April 27th, 901 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,160 2026. Presenting this is Council 902 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,240 President Carl Williams. Thank you. Uh 903 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:02,720 this was 904 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,000 previously heard. We had a public 905 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000 hearing. I don't believe anyone came to 906 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,200 speak. Uh so, it's going to go forward 907 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040 for final consideration. Absent any 908 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,750 questions or comments from the council. 909 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,320 Mr. Chairman, it's ready for final 910 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,760 action by the council. It's 911 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,400 housekeeping. It's just conforming the 912 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,240 ordinance with the law that was passed a 913 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,150 few years ago. 914 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,680 Does this Do you need a motion for this 915 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,040 or do you need Uh you make a motion just 916 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,000 to for final action. 917 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,520 So moved. 918 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,800 And seconded. 919 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,000 Second. I'm sorry. I apologize. I will 920 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,960 Are there any comments, questions, or 921 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,040 concerns on this action item? 922 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,640 Seeing none, do I have a motion? So 923 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,440 moved. 924 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,800 Okay. been moved properly seconded. All 925 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,920 those in favor? Aye. 926 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,840 Last on the list, also excuse me, just 927 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,520 for 928 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,440 to make sure I'm incorrect uh I'm 929 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,320 correct, excuse me. Uh Mr. Brown, do we 930 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560 need a motion for that for the engineer 931 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,320 to bring that to me in 2 weeks? To go 932 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,720 back to that last second to last item 933 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:57,880 for the dumping? 934 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,400 You can do that. 935 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,280 Yes. Make a motion for the table that 936 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,760 for 2 weeks. 937 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,040 Do I have a motion to table that for 2 938 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,840 weeks to allow the city engineer the 939 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,120 time to get us the information on what 940 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,640 the pilot program for small parks and 941 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,680 recreation would be? So moved. 942 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,000 It's been moved properly seconded. All 943 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,800 those in favor? Aye. 944 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,320 Thank you. Last item on the list for 945 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,600 government operations, CPH amending 946 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,120 chapter 161 of Schenectady City Codes. 947 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,400 Mayor Gary McCarthy. 948 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,400 That's me. Oh, I've got the wrong name 949 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,080 here. Carl Williams. 950 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,400 Uh yes. So, uh definitely this is more 951 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,880 towards the conclusionary phase. Uh 952 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,040 everyone should have received the 953 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,920 language regarding code amendments for 954 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,840 chapter 161. I definitely before going 955 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,800 into this, I appreciate all of the 956 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,920 collaborative discussion that we've had. 957 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,440 Mr. O'Brien, if it's appropriate, would 958 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,560 you mind just walking us through 959 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,640 Okay. Those changes, not just for the 960 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,120 council, but also for individuals 961 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,960 listening in. Okay. 962 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,520 Um what's before you is a draft based on 963 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,840 the prior discussions the council 964 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,440 committee has had over the last several 965 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960 weeks regarding amending chapter 161 of 966 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,000 the Schenectady City 967 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,440 which is dealing with the fee-based 968 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,320 system for collection of solid waste and 969 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,320 recyclables in the city. 970 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960 Um what's before the entire 971 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,600 council and what is published online is 972 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560 the that entire section article five of 973 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520 chapter 161. 974 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,160 And 975 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,760 we the first part of it is really 976 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,440 definitions 977 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,240 of what waste is, etc. 978 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,000 But then you go into the section of 979 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,600 161-21 980 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,240 which is you know, a number of 981 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,720 discussions 982 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,560 over the last several weeks. In 983 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,800 particular, 161 subparagraph B, sections 984 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,720 one and two. That's dealing with the 985 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,680 size of the containers being for no less 986 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,480 than 10 [snorts] gallons and no more 987 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,600 than 45 gallons in size with lids and 988 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,840 that the 989 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,960 bags where you garbage would be placed 990 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,120 in plastic refuse bags tied at the top 991 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,600 for collection. 992 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,320 And containers, what is new language is 993 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,280 the size of the containers, maximum size 994 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,480 of 45 gallons, that's news. And 995 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,680 containers uh 996 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,320 the size was 997 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,920 already there, but now everything has to 998 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,040 be placed in the containers and 999 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,760 containers containers will be privately 1000 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,720 purchased and each residence residential 1001 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:25,960 collection points will have one 1002 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,360 container for solid waste and one for 1003 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,560 recyclable rubbish. 1004 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,720 So it was 45 gallons was prior was but 1005 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:38,680 now it's that the waste will be placed in plastic bags 1006 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,720 contained in a in a 1007 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:44,800 container with a lid. Um and 1008 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,440 size of 10 gallons and no more than 45 1009 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000 gallons, so that's changed. 1010 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,720 The excess solid waste items that are not can be put into the 45 gallon 1011 00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,000 can. Um there is a schedule set forth in 1012 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,120 D 1013 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,800 which is shall be collected in 1014 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,640 coordination with the city's scheduled 1015 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,440 white goods collection. 1016 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,120 And collection of such items are 1017 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,840 occurring no more than once per calendar 1018 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,320 year month on a date designated for each 1019 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,360 collection district as as established by 1020 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,640 the city of Schenectady. 1021 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,840 Then we get into the the rates or tiers 1022 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,720 of service if you will for those excess 1023 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,000 items. 1024 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,760 Each single residential property 1025 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,000 permitted up to two bulky items and or 1026 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,840 quantities of excess solid waste for 1027 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,640 collection on the designated monthly 1028 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,640 collection day. 1029 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,680 And for a two-family, it'll be up to two 1030 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,720 can containers for solid waste will be 1031 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:42,280 permitted permitted and up to four bulky 1032 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,480 items and or and or quantities of excess 1033 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,960 solid waste for collection on the 1034 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360 designated monthly collection day. 1035 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,480 And then for three-family residential 1036 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,280 property, up to three containers will be 1037 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,280 permitted and up to six bulky items and 1038 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,240 or quantities of excess solid waste for 1039 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:58,800 collection on the designated monthly 1040 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,480 collection days. 1041 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,320 And then white goods which are those 1042 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,400 items such as stoves, dishwashers, and 1043 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,240 washing machines shall be collected 1044 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:09,400 without numerical limitation. And as as 1045 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,160 long as such items are placed for 1046 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,480 collection in accordance with the 1047 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,000 already city's established schedule. 1048 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,880 Okay, that was based on discussions that 1049 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,320 you the committee had with the council 1050 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,520 had with Mr. O'Brien and and Chris Wan 1051 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,360 over the past couple of weeks and that 1052 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040 language is 1053 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,560 from them and 1054 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,560 coordinated in with the corporation 1055 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,400 council's office. 1056 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,640 Um 1057 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:41,000 Of note is the section C. This is the section that we had the 1058 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,840 moratorium on the sticker program 1059 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,640 which is by its own terms that 1060 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,360 particular provision sunsets on June 1061 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480 14th. 1062 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,480 Then we get into the bracketed material 1063 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,680 that's 1064 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,800 contained. Bracketed material means it's deleted. And what is that? That's 1065 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,240 dealing with the business of the that 1066 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:07,240 fee schedule X 1067 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,240 and the container and the sticker 1068 00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:11,080 program. So 1069 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,280 in there in in what you see, anything 1070 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,560 that's bracketed 1071 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,359 and anything that 1072 00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:20,840 anything that's bracketed is deleted. 1073 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,670 Anything that's underlined is new. 1074 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,880 Um 1075 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,840 Also in in 1076 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,160 there was discussions 1077 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,000 at the last council meeting regarding 1078 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,680 creating a separate solid waste fund. 1079 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,040 The code already allows for that. Um and 1080 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,560 that fees are are established by 1081 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,080 resolution. 1082 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,160 Um but to underscore that, I am looking 1083 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,960 at 1084 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,560 161- 1085 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,200 23 1086 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,120 uh B 1087 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,680 where it says the director of finance 1088 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,480 shall establish and maintain a separate 1089 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,800 solid waste collection fund to be to 1090 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,280 record and control the financial 1091 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,320 activity related to the provision of 1092 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,120 solid waste collection by the city. 1093 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,160 The fund shall be maintained on the same 1094 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,160 fiscal year as the city of Schenectady. 1095 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,920 Um each year, this is already in the 1096 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,080 code. Um each year the mayor at the time 1097 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,600 of the submission of the annual budget 1098 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,720 estimate to the city council shall 1099 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,200 submit a statement of estimated 1100 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,120 revenues, expenditures, and changes in 1101 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,840 the fund as well as the fund balance for 1102 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,600 the current fiscal year together with 1103 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,560 estimate of expenditures for the next 1104 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,200 fiscal year. 1105 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,880 The mayor shall also at the same time 1106 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,000 recommend a basic rate sufficient to 1107 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,840 meet the estimated expenditures for the 1108 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,960 next fiscal year taking into 1109 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,920 consideration the estimated surplus or 1110 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,880 deficit occurring from the fund 1111 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,480 operations in the current year and other 1112 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,960 sources of revenues. 1113 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,800 And then I would add language said fees 1114 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,480 are these charged at the 1115 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,280 will be set the level of collection 1116 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,080 service for each collection point. I 1117 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,000 think that is capturing the tier of 1118 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,920 service that if it's a larger residence 1119 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,160 a larger 1120 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,240 collection point, the fee is different 1121 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,520 like we were talking one, two, and 1122 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,880 three-family house residential units 1123 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,840 earlier. 1124 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,630 And uh 1125 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,840 the 1126 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,320 a new section C. Even though the code 1127 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,760 currently calls for that fund, but they 1128 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,640 kind of belt and suspenders it and to 1129 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,840 really emphasize it, commencing in the 1130 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,440 city fiscal year 2027, the solid waste 1131 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,160 collection fund will be designated in 1132 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,720 the 2027 operating budget as a separate 1133 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,440 fund and such fund shall be in 1134 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,080 conformance with New York State local 1135 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,800 finance law. 1136 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,960 So this is bringing that authority 1137 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,440 that's already in the code and kind of 1138 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840 bringing it forward so it's you're 1139 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,800 starting in fiscal year 2027 1140 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,480 just like you have a golf fund, water 1141 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,160 fund, a sewer fund, it will be a 1142 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,480 separate line item stand alone there. 1143 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,760 Um once again, annual determination of 1144 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,880 funds which is under 161-24, 1145 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,760 that's already as part of the the city 1146 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,120 existing city code. A schedule of the 1147 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,240 annual fee. I will look at the second 1148 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:10,040 section second sentence. A schedule of 1149 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,600 the annual collection fee shall be 1150 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,000 approved by the city council by 1151 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,200 resolution, maintained on file in the 1152 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,240 commissioner's office, and the office of 1153 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,200 the city clerk. Once again, underscoring 1154 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,840 what the council was looking at as far 1155 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,200 as a tiered level of service as said 1156 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,160 fees to be charged will be set to level 1157 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,320 collection service for each collection 1158 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,190 point. 1159 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,480 Um 1160 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,910 then going down to 161-25. 1161 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,720 Um this is for exemptions. Any person 1162 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,320 because of age or disability shall 1163 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,680 qualify for an exemption from city real 1164 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,720 property taxes per and and to qualify 1165 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,600 for real tax 1166 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,520 real property tax 1167 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,800 exemptions and is the owner and occupant 1168 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,720 of any premises receiving solid waste 1169 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,520 services provided pursuant to this 1170 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,160 article shall be charged a reduced fee 1171 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,600 for solid waste collection and disposal 1172 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,720 services in the total sum. 1173 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280 The existing code is 137. That's just 1174 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,040 hasn't kept current. 1175 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,640 There's two type real quick. There's two 1176 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,400 types of ordinances. There's ordinances 1177 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,640 that amend the code which are the 1178 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,120 chapter codes that we're dealing with 1179 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,240 right now. And then you do your budget 1180 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,280 ordinance and your your your bond 1181 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,359 ordinance which are separate stand alone 1182 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:23,720 ordinances that don't 1183 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240 get into the code. So when you over the 1184 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,040 years when the council's adopted the 1185 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,520 various budget ordinances, it's setting 1186 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,200 the fee for that reduced fee. It just 1187 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:39,870 was never captured into this part of the city code. So this is just 1188 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,920 indicating what that current rate is 1189 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,000 based on the the most current budget. 1190 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,440 So it's just that's a housekeeping type 1191 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,800 thing. Um that's 1192 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,280 it's already 1193 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,520 uh recognized in in the budget 1194 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,640 ordinance. 1195 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,310 And then the uh 1196 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,840 the council was concerned regarding 1197 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,040 violations and updating administrative 1198 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,760 fees. Um this and the penalties is 1199 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,000 161-26, 1200 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,440 penalties for offenses. 1201 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,760 Um it's new language um in subdivision B 1202 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,640 is each and every day that a violate 1203 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,920 violation continues after notice and the 1204 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,240 expiration of the time for abatement 1205 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240 shall continue a separate and distinct 1206 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,960 offense subject to the penalties 1207 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,920 provided herein. 1208 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,520 And uh 1209 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,720 that's already in the existing code, but 1210 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,000 it's just rephrased and renumbered in 1211 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,520 that section. 1212 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,720 And then we're getting into the 1213 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,640 escalating civil penalties and lean 1214 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,400 enforcement. In addition to any 1215 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,280 penalties imposed in subsection A 1216 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,480 um which is hasn't been changed, civil 1217 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,520 penalties for violations of this chapter 1218 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,440 shall be assessed on an escalating basis 1219 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,200 for repeat offenses occurring within a 1220 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,160 12-month period at the same property or 1221 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,800 the by the same responsible party. 1222 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,760 Now, each violation shall include a base 1223 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,600 administrative fee for uh uh 1224 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,120 $75. You know, Council member would have 1225 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,600 been concerned about that 1226 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,160 uh 1227 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,480 administrative fee. I hadn't kept 1228 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,880 current with the other administrative 1229 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,920 fees that were increased a couple of 1230 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,240 years ago. 1231 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,720 In addition, a cleanup fee shall be 1232 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,120 assessed on an escalating basis. So, in 1233 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,680 other words, a cleanup fee, whatever it 1234 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,080 costs the city to clean up the 1235 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040 particular amount. 1236 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,880 And then if there's a a set of first 1237 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,760 violation, a $75 administrative fee plus 1238 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,600 a $75 cleanup cleanup fee plus a 1239 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,160 and then a second violation is a $75 1240 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,680 administrative fee and a cleanup fee. 1241 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,720 And then a third violation is once again 1242 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,520 the administrative fee and the $175 1243 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,480 cleanup fee. And the fourth and 1244 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,040 subsequent violations within 12 months, 1245 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,280 $75 administrative fee and a total 1246 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,480 cleanup fee of $275. So, the idea is 1247 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,280 that 1248 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,120 there's a cost to the city. The city's 1249 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,160 trying to recoup its costs, but also the 1250 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,080 just going out there it will be $75. 1251 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,160 Any unpaid fees, penalties incurred in 1252 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,600 connection with the enforcement or 1253 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080 mediation shall constitute a lien on the 1254 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,640 property may be collected in the same 1255 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,040 manner as real property taxes or any 1256 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,400 other means authorized by law. In other 1257 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,160 words, some other parts of the code 1258 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,240 allow for liens for cleanup to be 1259 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,280 assessed to the property. 1260 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,840 Um and that that's paid as a tax as a 1261 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,960 fee. 1262 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,680 Um and if and it's a lien. In other 1263 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,680 words, when they try to sell the 1264 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,000 property, the city has to be made whole. 1265 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,480 And then there's the administrative 1266 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,350 fee which is in 161-26D. 1267 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,280 Um that's the administrative fee which I 1268 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,280 indicated 1269 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,680 earlier. 1270 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,920 And then in addition to any fines and 1271 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,600 new penalties imposed, the city may 1272 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,720 abate any violation or condition 1273 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000 constituting a public nuisance nuisance 1274 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,880 or health hazard. This is new section E. 1275 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,120 All costs associated connection with 1276 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,040 such abatement include by not limited to 1277 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,400 labor, equipment, disposal, 1278 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,600 administrative costs shall be charged to 1279 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,800 the property owner. Such costs will 1280 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,160 constitute a lien upon the property and 1281 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,720 may be collected 1282 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,600 in the same manner as the real property 1283 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,720 taxes and civil action. 1284 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,720 These sections were put together by the 1285 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,280 folks who deal with it on a daily basis. 1286 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,840 Mr. 1287 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,280 Lafond and and and Mr. London. 1288 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,440 And their crews deal with these these 1289 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,480 issue on a daily basis dealing with 1290 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,480 those properties that 1291 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,800 are 1292 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,680 non-compliant. Once again, the bracketed 1293 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,000 in you know, the the bracketed language 1294 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,000 B and C 1295 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,310 they're re-re-re-re 1296 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480 rephrased 1297 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,200 regarding the 1298 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,880 continuing violation and then C was 1299 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,520 dealing with the $50 administrative fee. 1300 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,520 Section F is renumbered. This is 1301 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,480 something the council approved last year 1302 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,320 or the year before making any the 1303 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,960 depositing or placement of collection of 1304 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,680 solid waste not generated within the 1305 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,160 city of Schenectady as an unclassified 1306 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,280 misdemeanor punishable by a fine not 1307 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,720 exceeding $1,000 and/or imprisonment for 1308 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,920 a period exceeding 180 not exceeding 180 1309 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,040 days. 1310 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,800 That was put into the code of a couple 1311 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,120 of years ago. It's just re-lettered in 1312 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,440 this new section. 1313 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,000 And then 1314 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,720 Article 2, as Mr. London explained, you 1315 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,000 know, our you know, Chapter 161 is 1316 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,200 rather large. So, we have to go into 1317 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,200 other sections that deal with some of 1318 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,520 the material uh 1319 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,440 items that we just dealt with. Once 1320 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,080 again, 161-4H 1321 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,840 is dealing with garbage and recyclable 1322 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,560 rubbish placed in containers with lids 1323 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,440 at the curb and no less than 10 gallons 1324 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,200 and no more than 45 gallons. 1325 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,400 And then penalties for property owners 1326 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,960 and occupants. 1327 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,400 Um this is where we get into the grace 1328 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,640 period. Whether the the council wants to 1329 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,320 institute a grace period regarding the 1330 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,200 enforcement of this 1331 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,800 um when we did this last time there was 1332 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,440 an a grace period from January 1, 2025 1333 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,320 to an enforcement period of April 1st of 1334 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,040 last year. 1335 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,480 That that language is bracketed because 1336 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,600 if you want to put a new grace period in 1337 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,640 that language, but I don't know what you 1338 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,920 want to put in a grace period in. 1339 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,800 So, um I I note that in the my notes in 1340 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,640 the the bottom of 161-24N 1341 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,240 that new time periods for public 1342 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,520 education and commencement of 1343 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,480 enforcement need to be set. Those are 1344 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,200 the old those are the old dates from 1345 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,840 last year. 1346 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,030 And then 1347 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,160 that's um that continues with that 1348 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,200 section. Note the effective date can be 1349 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,920 set for a time period after other 1350 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,359 adoption. This ordi- ordinance can take 1351 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:51,280 effect immediately or if you want to put 1352 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,080 in a 100 day 120 days after adoption to 1353 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,800 give once again a period of of a grace 1354 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,080 period in in for in enforcement 1355 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,830 education, etc. 1356 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,960 So, 1357 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,990 that's the summary. 1358 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,200 SparkNotes, appreciate it. 1359 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,760 Mr. Brian, I apologize I didn't call you 1360 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,320 Mr. Brown earlier. I don't know where 1361 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,720 that came from. I appreciate you 1362 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,359 answering me and I called you the wrong 1363 01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:17,080 name. 1364 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,720 Hearing all of the information that was 1365 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,520 just brought before you, comments, 1366 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,120 questions, concerns, thoughts? 1367 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,480 I know um I have one that I know that 1368 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,200 Council member Wiggins had brought up 1369 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,040 prior. Is there something that we're looking to adopt or change to 1370 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,160 allow under penalties and fees to make 1371 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,560 sure that we are not penalizing people 1372 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,240 during snow storms, during heavy weather 1373 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,720 times, or ever changing our our 1374 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,600 sanitation code as now 1375 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,480 to make sure that we're not 1376 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,120 just giving people violations at $150 a 1377 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,280 clip 1378 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,200 during those time frames. 1379 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,880 Say the deep deep sets of December. 1380 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,560 I'll you know, I'll let the commissioner 1381 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,160 speak to those to that point directly. I 1382 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,760 mean, certainly the commissioner has 1383 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,200 authority has has made promulgate right 1384 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,600 under the existing authority that he has 1385 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,240 under 161-21 1386 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,200 um 1387 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,120 C of 161, the commissioner may 1388 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840 promulgate regulations covering the 1389 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,640 items of collection of solid waste and 1390 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,120 fees charged for therefore and such 1391 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,680 other matters pertaining to public 1392 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,320 collection and disposal of solid waste. 1393 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,000 So, 1394 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,640 he has the the commissioner has 1395 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,080 authority under there to waive during 1396 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,320 certain time periods. So, I mean, it's 1397 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,440 you never know. You you 1398 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,359 um 1399 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:37,680 But we can always put something in more 1400 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,400 in the ordinance. Mr. Mr. Chairman, 1401 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,400 that 1402 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,320 as we try and cover everything, the 1403 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,920 lawyers have gone over and analyzed it, 1404 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,120 I would have 1405 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,840 still expect the staff in the field to 1406 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,400 use common sense. 1407 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,960 You know, so that 1408 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,120 I mean, they can't cover every 1409 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,080 possible scenario 1410 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,480 out there, but we would hope and 1411 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600 direct the staff to again use those 1412 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,200 parameters of common sense so that it 1413 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,040 works for people, it makes sense, and it 1414 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,280 serves the needs of the people. Tell 1415 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,720 staff we solve problems, we don't create 1416 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,320 them. 1417 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,160 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1418 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,320 Are there any comments, questions, 1419 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,760 concerns? 1420 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,880 Mr. 1421 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,359 Yeah, Mr. Chairman, this is this is as 1422 01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:25,240 you know as you know you're on a tight 1423 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,359 schedule regarding you know, regarding 1424 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:30,120 June 14th. At this point, you can call 1425 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,480 for a public hearing which would be on 1426 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,400 May 26th. 1427 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,720 You have one more between now and then. 1428 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,200 You do have one more 1429 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,800 second committee cycle to you know, to 1430 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,840 mark up any changes or anything. And 1431 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,040 they as long as it's marked up and 1432 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,600 changed at least a week before the 1433 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,280 public hearing, that gives the public 1434 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,760 enough 1435 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,400 information to see what what changes. And obviously 1436 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,840 this has been posted already on the 1437 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,880 agenda for tonight's meeting, so the 1438 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,760 public is aware of 1439 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,080 for forthcoming coming changes. And if 1440 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,240 you want to mark this up at the next 1441 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,960 committee cycle, you can do so and it 1442 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,200 will be posted you know, after you it's 1443 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,480 voted out of committee. But at this 1444 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,560 point because of the cycle, I recommend 1445 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,040 that you call for a public hearing on 1446 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,960 the proposed ordinance amendments for 1447 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,920 May 26th. Absolutely. Uh Council member 1448 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,799 I did have three questions. The first of 1449 01:08:23,799 --> 01:08:25,120 which, definitely thank you for that 1450 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,920 synopsis, Mr. Brian. 1451 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,680 Um with regards to stickers that are 1452 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,880 already in circulation, Mr. Lafond or 1453 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,319 Mayor, do you have any do you have any 1454 01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,080 comments? I just talked with a few 1455 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,120 residents and I was I paid money for 1456 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,080 these items to throw them away. I think 1457 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,759 it's disingenuous. Is there a way we can 1458 01:08:42,759 --> 01:08:46,440 consider honoring those moving forward? 1459 01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:49,110 All right now. 1460 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,120 Thank you. With the sticker 1461 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,880 program suspended, 1462 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,000 people are putting that bulky items out 1463 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,759 that we're taking. It doesn't matter if 1464 01:08:57,759 --> 01:08:59,080 there's one of them, two items, or three 1465 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,000 items. 1466 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,759 It's suspended. So, if they have bulky 1467 01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:05,040 items right now, we're taking it. Um 1468 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,400 So, if you 1469 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,759 put the sticker program back and you had 1470 01:09:08,759 --> 01:09:10,120 stickers, 1471 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,799 um 1472 01:09:11,799 --> 01:09:12,799 I think they got rid of their stuff 1473 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:14,880 already. 1474 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,319 If it was if it was in the law in the 1475 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,400 last last couple weeks, it it went out 1476 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,200 over the last you know, over the grace 1477 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,040 period we gave them. A lot of the bulky 1478 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,440 items we took a lot of the bulky items 1479 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:24,319 out. 1480 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:25,680 But that's a decision of you. If you 1481 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,759 want me to say if you got three if you 1482 01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:29,680 got four stickers you put it out. How 1483 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,400 you want to do it is up to you. But I 1484 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,240 think most people probably, you know, 1485 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,960 put up their bulk items already. 1486 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,279 Answer your question, Councilman 1487 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:40,120 Or if I was to say someone is holding 1488 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,000 them, just because they love them as a 1489 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,480 nostalgic heir item, 1490 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,440 when we do transition to this restricted 1491 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:48,839 program, could we put in place language 1492 01:09:48,839 --> 01:09:51,160 that says you can use your stickers in 1493 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,240 excess of what is currently allowed? 1494 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,560 I don't see why not. 1495 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,320 Uh we just wouldn't we wouldn't sell any 1496 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,040 additional stickers. That's great. 1497 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,440 Cuz if they're holding them, they got 1498 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:02,800 rid of the free stuff, now holding it so 1499 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,240 we put the sticker program. And they 1500 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,680 spent money on that. So they did spend 1501 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,920 the the $5 per sticker. So we would 1502 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,680 just, you know, uh discontinue the sale 1503 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,400 of the stickers. And if they were on 1504 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,880 there, they would use them all. 1505 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,080 Perfect. Thank you. Um the second uh 1506 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,400 question was uh along the lines of this 1507 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,920 our winter climate months. Um 1508 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,440 individuals definitely have mobility 1509 01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:24,480 issues. Then also houses, based on how 1510 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,120 snow falls off your roof, you might not 1511 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,520 be able to put your trash can where you 1512 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,320 normally keep it, especially if we're 1513 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,480 making that a condition of this. 1514 01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:33,560 Uh is it appropriate to then consider 1515 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,600 people or households being able to put 1516 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,040 their trash cans in front of their 1517 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,360 houses during the winter months? 1518 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,640 In front versus On the side. 1519 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,800 >> side. So I know that people have 1520 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,760 received violations. It's random 1521 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,200 violations if your trash can is on the 1522 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,640 side of the road. If there's rain, like 1523 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,200 we've had that. I know that from people 1524 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,240 talking to me and elders in the 1525 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,720 community. Is there a way to make sure 1526 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,240 that if I'm correct in my 1527 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,360 to make sure we're not giving those 1528 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,040 violations or fees to people have to put 1529 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,840 them on the side of their porch or on 1530 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,080 the side where they can easily access it 1531 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,760 to roll out. 1532 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,680 Well, I think like that the mayor said 1533 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,480 that, you know, we have to use common 1534 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:09,400 sense. So if there's a pending snow 1535 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,080 storm somebody has their can a couple 1536 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,040 days before in the front, common sense. 1537 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,520 But if it's there 1538 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,560 continuously and constantly, 1539 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,360 you know, 1540 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,840 then again, you know, the city code does 1541 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,160 state that they have to be out of sight 1542 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,520 in the backyard, not on the side. Except 1543 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:23,800 if you're living in a corner lot, they 1544 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,120 can be visible because it's a corner 1545 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,200 lot. But again, 1546 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,720 you know, if there's 2 ft of snow 1547 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,000 coming, they took their 1548 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,240 trash cans on the porch cuz they don't 1549 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,870 want to shovel it out. 1550 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,360 I think we got more important things to 1551 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,160 do during a snowstorm than to look at a 1552 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,040 trash can that's, you know, by the front 1553 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,240 of the house. But again, you know, it's 1554 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,120 during what we'll call severe storm 1555 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,400 events, not on a regular basis. And 1556 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,000 again, it's it's good judgment or it's 1557 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,520 common sense that we have to use overall 1558 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,520 there. 1559 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,000 My problem is to say common sense isn't 1560 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,240 always common. So we want to make sure 1561 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,480 we cover our bases as well, right? 1562 01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:56,720 Any further question, Councilman Jones? 1563 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:57,840 And the third question, definitely in 1564 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,440 the spirit of Mr. Mulveyhill, since he's 1565 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:02,040 not here, my only question is with those 1566 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,440 violations, I appreciate including an 1567 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,200 elevated administrative fee. Can you 1568 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,480 speak to your level of confidence that 1569 01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:09,120 this is going to make a difference in 1570 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,480 impeding these types of behaviors from 1571 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:12,240 continuing? Someone saying, "I'm just 1572 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,920 going to keep putting these I'm going to 1573 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,840 keep putting my trash out and I'll pay 1574 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,480 the fee because the fee means nothing." 1575 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:19,480 I think that 1576 01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:21,640 well, as it states now, the $50 fee is 1577 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,840 just a small price to pay if you're 1578 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,920 going to put a whole bunch of garbage 1579 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,360 out there. It has successfully because 1580 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,640 the ones that are taking advantage of it 1581 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,000 are going to continue to do it because 1582 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,040 it's still cost effective to just put it 1583 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,960 out and pay $50. Pay $75. So escalating 1584 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,120 is, you know, after after the fourth, I 1585 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:39,600 don't know what we do after you get to 1586 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,040 that point. Just, you know, 1587 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,120 Well, it's kind of 1588 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,760 as Mr. Chairman and and 1589 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,520 Council President, it's going to act as 1590 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,840 a lien. This language has a lien on the 1591 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:54,000 property as a as a, you know, it's this these costs will be assessed 1592 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,880 to the property where you if they don't 1593 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,280 you have to pay your property taxes 1594 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,280 obviously. If you don't pay your 1595 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,080 property taxes, 1596 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,480 we go through foreclosure or if the 1597 01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,680 house is going to be sold at some point, 1598 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,240 those liens will have to be cleared up 1599 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,920 before that individual can sell the 1600 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,440 property. 1601 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,790 Thank you. 1602 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,000 Any comments, questions, concerns? 1603 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,000 The recommendation on the table is to 1604 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,520 move this to public hearing for May 1605 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,120 26th. 1606 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,520 Do I have a motion to do such? So moved. 1607 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,960 Second. It has been moved and properly 1608 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,160 seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. 1609 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,520 Does 1610 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,840 And the last item for government 1611 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,480 operations, do I have a motion to close 1612 01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:32,280 out the meeting on government 1613 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,080 operations? Um Mr. uh Chairman and Mr. 1614 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,000 Council President, I know that you asked 1615 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,680 for a report for the city finance 1616 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,000 report. Do you want to have that tonight 1617 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,360 or do you want to put that off? 1618 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,760 Councilman Jones. So I was actually 1619 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,000 considering that, definitely in the 1620 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,160 spirit of how we started the meeting. 1621 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,560 There was a lot of jockeying along the 1622 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,360 schedule. Thank you to the community and 1623 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,560 everyone in the room for being patient. 1624 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:54,520 Um 1625 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,760 having the time to reassess. I think now 1626 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,840 with 1627 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,240 Councilman Ingram in the room, we can 1628 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,520 proceed with city development planning. 1629 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,120 Um 1630 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,760 my only hesitancy with including the 1631 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,040 conversation around the first quarter 1632 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,200 report, I appreciate being here, Mr. 1633 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,760 Mulveyhill. It's 1634 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,320 two of our other senior experienced 1635 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,720 councilmembers are not present for that. 1636 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,960 So rather than you having to repeat that 1637 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,520 again, I would ask for your just grace 1638 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,280 if we can push that off for 2 months. 2 1639 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,221 weeks. 2 weeks. 2 weeks. 1640 01:14:23,221 --> 01:14:24,440 >> [laughter] 1641 01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,320 >> 2 weeks. Excuse me. I would appreciate 1642 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,280 that. 1643 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,360 Thank you, sir. 1644 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,640 Um so do you close all of the same 1645 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,560 meetings? 1646 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,200 Mr. Bradley, do you have any No, 1647 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,000 nothing. I was just a housekeeper today. 1648 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,520 So at this time, I'll take a entertain a 1649 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,400 motion to close government operations. 1650 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,280 So moved. 1651 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,480 It has been moved and properly seconded. 1652 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,400 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. 1653 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,120 Government operations is now closed. So 1654 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,120 I'd like to call to order city 1655 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,960 development and planning. We previously 1656 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,720 had nine items, two of which were 1657 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,160 discussing government operations. That 1658 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,600 was now seven remaining. The first of 1659 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,440 which is going to be the appointments to 1660 01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,800 this civilian police review board. Um 1661 01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,520 Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind, um 1662 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,960 we had a conversation earlier today 1663 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,480 uh regarding one of the individuals that 1664 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,440 was taking a 1665 01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:09,120 seat with the NAACP. After ongoing 1666 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,920 conversations and trying to make some 1667 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,680 considerations 1668 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,440 uh moving forward, 1669 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,520 uh that is a uh consideration that we're 1670 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,960 going to withhold for tonight. 1671 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,160 Um 1672 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,760 it is then 1673 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,880 my expectation to move the other 1674 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,000 remaining two individuals. 1675 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,520 And Mr. Mayor, if I can just confirm, 1676 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,360 there are appointments for 1677 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,990 Excuse me. 1678 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,400 the NAACP, 1679 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,760 the Sycamore Collaborative, 1680 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,720 and the Human Rights Commission that you 1681 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,040 are currently in possession of. 1682 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,920 Correct. In the next cycle, I'll send 1683 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,880 you a letter making those 1684 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,720 recommendations. Appreciate that, sir. 1685 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,080 Um so with the exclusion of uh Hillary 1686 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,680 Sneer, I would entertain a motion to 1687 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,880 move those two remaining uh nominations 1688 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,630 forward. Do it the next cycle. 1689 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,760 But those letters we already have. 1690 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,600 Oh, the ones you have, yes, you can move 1691 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:07,960 forward on those. 1692 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,960 Thank you. 1693 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,360 Who was the third you said? NAACP, 1694 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,360 Sycamore and 1695 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,560 Uh 1696 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,360 Councilman Jones, it was NAACP, Sycamore 1697 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,720 Collaborative, and the Human Rights 1698 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,350 Commission. 1699 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,400 And you will move all three of those in 1700 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,680 the next cycle. Uh the mayor is going to 1701 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,480 provide Mr. Chairman, excuse me. 1702 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:27,440 Mayor McCarthy, you're good with 1703 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:28,800 providing all three of those in the next 1704 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,440 cycle. Is that the statement you made? 1705 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,560 For recommendation for NAACP, Sycamore, 1706 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,680 and Human Rights. I'm not sure which 1707 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,000 letter you should have to 1708 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,000 Mr. Mr. Council President, you what Mr. 1709 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,000 Mayor has is 1710 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,160 the what's before you right now is the 1711 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,000 reps for the Housing Authority 1712 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,400 and the 1713 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,360 and and the League of Women Voters. 1714 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,840 Correct. Okay. Those are the ones that 1715 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,120 are actionable tonight. 1716 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,720 Thank you, Mr. Bradley. 1717 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,240 Uh any further questions or concerns? 1718 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,480 I'll entertain a motion. Uh so just to 1719 01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:03,680 confirm, we're moving forward with the 1720 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,840 League of Women Voters and the Municipal 1721 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,160 Housing Authority. And then in 2 weeks 1722 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,080 we'll have back Sycamore Collaborative, 1723 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,000 the NAACP, and Human Rights Commission. Human 1724 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,320 Rights Commission. Okay. I will move 1725 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,240 that. 1726 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,360 I will second. All those in favor? Aye. 1727 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,160 Thank you. 1728 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,600 The next item is going to be a 1729 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,120 discussion about the Becker Street trial 1730 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,960 stop sign. Sincerely, as we previously 1731 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,280 heard from the King's Road 1732 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,320 um and Woodlawn community, I think there 1733 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,280 was initially hesitation with proceeding 1734 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:35,680 with a temporary stop sign at that 1735 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,800 location. 1736 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,600 Um 1737 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,080 I know Mr. Wallen was very very uh 1738 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,320 analytical with understanding the 1739 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,000 traffic study and also making sure we're 1740 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,400 not uh 1741 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,240 prematurely installing these resources 1742 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,760 just due to 1743 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:49,880 the 1744 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,200 uh precedence that this can provide. But 1745 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,880 I think in lieu of us having the ability 1746 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,200 to put in place speed tables throughout 1747 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,880 the community, I think it is appropriate 1748 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,800 to continue entertaining these as I've 1749 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,360 had conversations with members of the 1750 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,440 Woodlawn community that that stop sign 1751 01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:04,560 has been very beneficial to them in that 1752 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,760 area. Not perfect, but better. And I 1753 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,000 think that's what we're striving for as 1754 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,440 a municipality. 1755 01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:12,000 Uh so with Becker Street, um 1756 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,400 had a conversation with Mr. Wallen. 1757 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,000 Would love to hear his recommendation 1758 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,840 for that area. If you're all not 1759 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,400 familiar with that, uh there is two 1760 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,719 intersections, so two two stop lights. 1761 01:18:21,719 --> 01:18:24,120 However, there is an extended gap from 1762 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,120 Elm Street to Snow Road. And 1763 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,480 essentially, we hear throughout the city 1764 01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:29,840 of there being drag strip or drag light 1765 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,280 areas. Wanted to put in place a stop 1766 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:33,560 sign at the recommendation of our chief 1767 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,520 engineer to uh to 1768 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,000 potentially provide a deterrent from 1769 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,360 people getting up to excessive speeds. 1770 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,960 And what I'd like to say before turning 1771 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,640 over the table to to you, sir, is 1772 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,760 this is not a corrective measure that 1773 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,560 foregoes any involvement and input from 1774 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,680 the community. At King's Road, there is 1775 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,800 absolutely conversations with our 1776 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,040 traffic division, um Lieutenant Dolan, 1777 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,080 who's very responsive. Uh so this is not 1778 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,480 the perfect solution. This is just a 1779 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:00,000 better solution, a better option moving 1780 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,950 forward. 1781 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:12,670 Um Mr. Wallen. 1782 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,440 Thank you. 1783 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:14,200 Yep. 1784 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,280 So I was asked to look at Becker Street 1785 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,360 for the installation of a stop sign for 1786 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,920 speed control, which is not recommended, 1787 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,160 but recommended by the PD. So, we will 1788 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,120 look at it. It is 1,550 ft from the last 1789 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,520 signal to the bend at and Snowden. 1790 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,080 We have several streets that are in the 1791 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,200 middle of that area including Hague, 1792 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,400 Robinson, and Elder. I would guess that 1793 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,720 those three would be the streets that we 1794 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,760 would look at given that they're 1795 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,560 centrally located on the strip. And I 1796 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,720 have not had time to work with 1797 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,280 Lieutenant Dolman on this. However, I'm 1798 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,720 going to have to pull some information 1799 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,120 to see what accidents if any have been 1800 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,040 occurring and then also look at the one 1801 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,200 ways to see which way streets are going 1802 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,160 to just maximize 1803 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,760 the efficiencies of the stop sign 1804 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,920 in that location. 1805 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:01,800 Because 1806 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,680 I I didn't put on my sketch in a rough 1807 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,280 sketch of what what ways everything is 1808 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,520 going. But I'd like to hear from the the 1809 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,080 police about this corridor or so. I'll 1810 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,520 try to get some information about what we're looking at, I guess. 1811 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,360 Um 1812 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,640 I didn't know that is 1813 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,880 President Williams, are we on board with 1814 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,080 the installation? I thought there was a 1815 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,240 discussion about the installation of So, 1816 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,440 that's what I was here for. If we're on 1817 01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:25,800 board and everyone wants to move forward 1818 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,800 with the installation, then I I will 1819 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,560 forward with a study to pick a location 1820 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,880 and then come to you with the location. 1821 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,040 Thank you. I mean, I'm definitely 1822 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,960 functioning with a amended council at 1823 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,200 the moment. Although I value each of 1824 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,440 your company 1825 01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,720 uh each of your contributions. 1826 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:40,920 Definitely to that point and seeing that 1827 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,040 there is an entertainment. This was 1828 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,840 something we considered with the last um 1829 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,560 format of the council. 1830 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,560 It's not a late consideration, but it's 1831 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,280 something that has been able to 1832 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,000 settle just some angst with people 1833 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,960 questioning whether we're making any 1834 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,720 intentionality with speeding throughout 1835 01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:59,920 the city. 1836 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:00,600 Um 1837 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,790 not preferred, but it's an option. 1838 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,200 Um Mr. Warner, I think I would like to 1839 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,120 see more of your analysis. I don't know 1840 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,680 if I'm supportive of it yet just based 1841 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,040 on like you said talking with PD, 1842 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,360 talking with the neighborhood, looking 1843 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,920 at the one ways, and seeing if it would 1844 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,040 be something that would work. Like you 1845 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,560 said in the beginning, 1846 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,520 stop signs are not a correct measure for 1847 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,240 speeding. So, 1848 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,600 um 1849 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,960 I think that it's definitely something 1850 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,480 that should be taken into account, too. 1851 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:28,880 We shouldn't just put stop signs up if 1852 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,320 we're trying to stop speeders. 1853 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,760 Councilman Chairs, and you said you had 1854 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,400 your analysis prepared for this evening. 1855 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,640 Is that what you Is that what you were 1856 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:37,960 saying? That you had an analysis 1857 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,520 prepared for that earlier this evening? 1858 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,480 No. No. No. No. I was I was under the 1859 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,200 impression that this was going to be a 1860 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:45,680 discussion if the council wanted to move 1861 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,320 forward with conducting an analysis for 1862 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,040 this area. Um The The only The only 1863 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,400 conversation I had a brief conversation 1864 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,920 with Mr. Williams about this coming on 1865 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,760 the agenda about this location, but 1866 01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,120 I you know, I typically don't move 1867 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,071 forward with just one 1868 01:22:01,071 --> 01:22:01,240 >> [snorts] 1869 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,480 >> council person's recommendation to make 1870 01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:04,800 an action. So, I thought this was going 1871 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,760 to be a discussion about if yourselves 1872 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,120 and your other members would like to 1873 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,920 move forward in this regard. 1874 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,320 >> If they choose to move forward on the 1875 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,480 city's development and planning 1876 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:13,680 committee with this, would you be able 1877 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,000 to provide your personal recommendation 1878 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,520 for it as well as your time is under you 1879 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,680 that would be a corrective manner if the 1880 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,480 stop sign is not the way to go. 1881 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:24,280 Uh another measure you're talking about? 1882 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,680 >> Yes. Would you be willing to include a 1883 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,280 recommendation when you do this 1884 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,920 analysis, but also a recommendation if 1885 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,000 you feel that area would benefit from 1886 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,400 something else outside of the traffic 1887 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:37,190 stop sign. Sure. 1888 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,760 Uh Councilman Councilwoman Wiggins, uh 1889 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,840 any comments? Sorry to put you on the 1890 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,400 spot, but I'm just gauging where the 1891 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,800 council currently stands with regards to 1892 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,950 implementing stop signs. 1893 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,000 I know stop signs is not going to help 1894 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,400 speeding, but we have also have to think 1895 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,440 about our children. Summertime is coming 1896 01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,560 and um 1897 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,440 summertime with the bikes and everything 1898 01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:06,040 is crucial. So, I'm I'm for a stop sign. 1899 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,440 And then just for clarification, this is 1900 01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:09,000 getting additional information. So, I 1901 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,360 know Councilman Inger wanted to see some 1902 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,480 more of that statistical findings and 1903 01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:14,800 definitely I would be open to hearing 1904 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,960 from the police department as well. Um 1905 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,640 I can reach out to our 1906 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,120 absent council members to see where they 1907 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,800 currently stand and give you an update 1908 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,920 on that as well, Mr. Warner. Thank you. 1909 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,800 Um 1910 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,960 going forward with the the budget, I 1911 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,520 would recommend that um a line item be 1912 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,480 added for studies such as these. 1913 01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,680 Um my real recommendation would be to 1914 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,560 study Becker as a corridor 1915 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,960 from Brandywine all the way to Snowden. 1916 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,000 If you all 1917 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,080 recall, we did remove a light 1918 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,840 at Brandywine and Becker. That light was 1919 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,640 um 1920 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,080 there for a school that no longer 1921 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,320 existed. We replaced it with a rapid 1922 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,760 flashing beacon by our signals 1923 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,640 department, which is more appropriate 1924 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,920 for that location. I feel that a 1925 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,400 corridor study might have the same fate 1926 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,040 for Elm, 1927 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,160 which 1928 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,320 also has a signal that seems to be a lot 1929 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,520 of place in the neighborhood. And 1930 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,480 putting a stop sign after a corridor 1931 01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:14,800 with that many signals might be a little 1932 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,320 confusing. 1933 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,640 So, 1934 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,280 I don't know what 1935 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,120 my budget will allow me to look at for 1936 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,560 this corridor as you get bigger, but I 1937 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,520 will see if we can do something there 1938 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:26,800 because 1939 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,280 I might I think it's worth looking at 1940 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,520 from start to end and not specifically 1941 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,440 just in the middle. 1942 01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,200 Thank you. 1943 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,640 Any other questions or comments? 1944 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,640 Uh so, we'll have this back in 2 weeks 1945 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,680 and you give me 1946 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,960 two cycles? 1947 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,440 One month? Yeah. 1948 01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:45,520 I know you guys have been doing a lot of 1949 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,240 this this time 1950 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:47,120 >> Yeah. 1951 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,240 this is 1952 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,640 I'm going to need to meet with someone 1953 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:50,760 about 1954 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,240 uh this park. 1955 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,080 On site just to see where the area is. 1956 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,680 So, I'll reach out and then 1957 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,840 I'll reach out to you to set that up. 1958 01:24:58,840 --> 01:24:59,840 Perfect. Thank you, Mr. Warner. All 1959 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,960 right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Warner. 1960 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,560 The remaining five items need to be 1961 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,840 discussed in the executive session. 1962 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,480 Correct, Mr. O'Brien? Yes, they 1963 01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:11,680 generally with ongoing litigation and the sale of 1964 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,720 city property. 1965 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,520 Uh hearing session, I have a motion to 1966 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:16,800 enter [music] executive session. So 1967 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:17,600 moved, sir. 1968 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,480 Administrative efficiency? 1969 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:23,830 Mr. Begin? 1970 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,680 And set that aside before we go into 1971 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:26,760 executive. 1972 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:27,960 Uh 1973 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,790 Jason doesn't have anything for me. 1974 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,480 Uh 1975 01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:38,640 So, I will hold that motion. 1976 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,440 And we can move that item from 1977 01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:42,240 administrative efficiency and to city 1978 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,400 development and planning. So, it will be 1979 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,760 agenda item number one for 1980 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,400 administrative efficiency, the city road 1981 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,720 closure forms and access. 1982 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,920 Um Mr. Chairs. 1983 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,160 Um so, this would be 1984 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:55,800 So, that was created to allow us to 1985 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,680 begin the process of more digitalizing 1986 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,880 the current forms that we have and also 1987 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:01,920 making it 1988 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,240 a more accessible and more um 1989 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,400 specific fee structure concept when it 1990 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,840 comes to our road closures and planning 1991 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,000 for parades, block parties, and items of 1992 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,160 that. Currently, that form sits at 1993 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,360 almost about 20 sheets. I believe that 1994 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,880 there's a way that we can condense that 1995 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:18,960 sheet while still getting the 1996 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,280 information that we need to all of the 1997 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,440 respective parties from BMT, fire, and 1998 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,960 police while creating less paperwork for 1999 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,600 our city staffers and making sure that 2000 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,640 there's an access point for all four 2001 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,760 parties prime parties and any other 2002 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,640 essential that needs to be added 2003 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,640 onto it. Um having a 20-page packet, I 2004 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:40,960 think 2005 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,000 limits and creates unnecessary paperwork 2006 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,680 for our city staff and unnecessary 2007 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,200 expenditures from just buying paper 2008 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,710 alone. 2009 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,950 Thank you. Any questions or comments? 2010 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,960 Councilman Inger. Uh I'm definitely 2011 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,640 supportive of this. I think that 2012 01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,960 I'm a big believer in going into 2013 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:01,560 technology. So, I know 2014 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:02,800 I agree with you, Mr. Chairs, that we 2015 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,080 need to go away from 20 pages. I would 2016 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:06,600 like to see 2017 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:07,920 um 2018 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,400 how [snorts] we would go with this, you 2019 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,720 know, work with the specific departments 2020 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,120 that um 2021 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,800 are included in this packet and then go 2022 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,960 forward with a centralized digital 2023 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,120 system like you're talking about. So, I 2024 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,600 appreciate you bringing this forward. 2025 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,320 Thank you, sir. 2026 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,720 Thank you. Um Mr. Mayor and Mr. O'Brien, 2027 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,480 um regarding that, can we simply or can 2028 01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:33,920 Councilman Chairs just provide you a draft analysis? I know part of it is 2029 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,440 ensuring that it it is It's the way it 2030 01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:37,080 works for me. I'm going to use that 2031 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,400 form. If If you let me finish, so my 2032 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:41,520 comment I was going to say it all in the 2033 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,520 background. Right. Mr. Chairs, one 2034 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,000 moment. So, my comment was going to be 2035 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,880 with regards to the fire department and 2036 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,360 police department. I know those forms 2037 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,680 have very um 2038 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:52,719 uh 2039 01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:55,240 important fields that can't be removed. 2040 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,320 I think the mayor wants us to present it 2041 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,480 as how can we reduce some of the 2042 01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:00,800 redundancy in the other departments. So, 2043 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,719 uh I think you're saying 2044 01:28:03,719 --> 01:28:06,000 We spent a lot of time on that in the 2045 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,520 actual collection of that information is 2046 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,000 appropriate. There are some applications 2047 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,480 that don't have to use the full packet 2048 01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:16,360 of forms that are really simple, 2049 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,560 straightforward. There's other 2050 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,760 components that are needed to 2051 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,240 appropriately assess costs and do risk 2052 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,240 assessment for events that may be 2053 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,080 happening in the city of Schenectady. 2054 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,480 Thank you for your your comment, Mayor. 2055 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:30,719 I agree with you. I think that that is 2056 01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:32,000 extremely important that we have certain 2057 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,480 parts in that's why I made sure to take 2058 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,960 very good care inside the LR as well as 2059 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,640 the other legislation I sent over to Mr. 2060 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,240 O'Brien and Mr. O'Brien when it came to 2061 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,000 incorporating the new hire panel into 2062 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,280 our code to make sure that your 2063 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,480 operations doesn't get superseded in any 2064 01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:49,200 way. I would like to graciously disagree 2065 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,719 with you that there is a way to be more 2066 01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,560 accessible, making sure that everyone 2067 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,160 still has all of the information they 2068 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,240 need so that you have what you need. It 2069 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,200 is not straightforward as I've heard 2070 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,000 from multiple city members across the 2071 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,040 world that this information built to us 2072 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,640 who constantly practice and work inside 2073 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,080 legislation look at it every single day 2074 01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,719 may say 20 pages is is quick to look at 2075 01:29:08,719 --> 01:29:10,760 and I can write through it myself. I 2076 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,640 know that a lot of organizations have 2077 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,000 struggled with trying to work through 2078 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,800 and access what the fees are going to 2079 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,800 be. It's not properly bracketed, it 2080 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,560 doesn't have a set structure fee based 2081 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,440 on the organization or size, which would 2082 01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:23,400 make your paperwork at least two pages 2083 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,280 lighter just by creating a fee. And it 2084 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,800 will also allow you to estimate how much 2085 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,040 money you're going to bring in per 2086 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,440 capita per year and just the average 2087 01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:32,600 block party that gets thrown. So, you 2088 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,320 could almost time your watch to the 2089 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,440 money that you want to be bringing the 2090 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:38,150 city. 2091 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,600 And if I can add to that point, I think 2092 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,920 sincerely is a conversation piece where 2093 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,840 you have sitting council members able to 2094 01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,760 help. Definitely recognize that we do 2095 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,640 not see everything, but hearing 2096 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,760 continuously year in year out this 2097 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,000 process almost disincentivizes people to 2098 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,800 go about it the right way due to the 2099 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,960 amount of administrative just loopholes. 2100 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,000 I can recognize that that has been a 2101 01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,760 transition into a better process 2102 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,160 internally, um but much of the 2103 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,760 conversation we had regarding 2104 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,520 conversations associated with 2105 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,720 the interview process for council 2106 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:08,960 members. 2107 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,480 It is ongoing. So, the road to progress 2108 01:30:11,480 --> 01:30:13,760 is not a destination, it is a journey. 2109 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,400 So, I think the spirit of this is how do 2110 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,080 we continue to build upon the 2111 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,320 accomplishments to get to more of those 2112 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,760 technological assists that Councilman 2113 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,960 Ingram highlighted. 2114 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,600 And I that is something I can be in 2115 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,760 favor of. Uh so, Councilman chairs 2116 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,360 uh the expectation is that you will 2117 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,840 present a draft packet for plan that 2118 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,400 will be considered by the mayor and then 2119 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,240 corporation council ensuring that that 2120 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,840 is received in the spirit not reducing 2121 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,280 unnecessary or reducing necessary fees 2122 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:44,640 to ensure that's in compliance with the 2123 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:45,840 ordinance. 2124 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,560 And I'd like to go on record by saying, 2125 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,200 I know the effort that you put in as 2126 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,040 talking to our former Chief Moreno as 2127 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,040 well as Chief Clifford prior sitting on 2128 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,760 so many different panels inside the 2129 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,640 city. I know that you didn't come to 2130 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,640 those sheets lightly working in it. So, 2131 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,320 I don't want to denigrate anyone's 2132 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,000 efforts inside of your office that put 2133 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,720 that together, but I do look forward to 2134 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,800 working with you and your office in 2135 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,320 making this efficient. 2136 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,240 Perfect. 2137 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,760 Expectation you have this back in 2 2138 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:12,160 weeks? 2139 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,560 >> 2 weeks. Sounds good. 2140 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,600 Um all other remaining items will need 2141 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,120 to be discussed in executive session. Do 2142 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,280 we have a motion to enter executive 2143 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,160 session? So I'll second. All those in 2144 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,320 favor? Aye. We are in executive session, 2145 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:24,400 members of the public will have to 2146 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:34,193 leave. 2147 01:31:34,203 --> 01:32:09,628 » [music]