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Good evening. Good evening, everybody. Serritos residents, non-residents, businesses, stakeholders. Thank you for joining our meeting tonight. I'd like to call the order, the Monday, July 27, 26, 7 o'clock PM, City Council successor agency regular meeting. Tonight's meeting will be conducted in a hybrid format, instructions for remote public participation are listed on tonight's meeting agenda.

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The invocation tonight will be given by Pastor Bob Dileon of Calvary Chapel, Artisha.

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And the pledge will be led by Girl Scout Troop 313.

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So please rise for the invocation and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance, Pastor

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Dileon.

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Good evening, Madame Mayor, council members, and all in attendance, if you would please

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bell your heads with me in prayer.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we come before you this evening with grateful hearts, thankful for the opportunity to gather here and for those who accepted the responsibility of serving the residents of the City of Serritos.

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Father, we thank you for the many blessings you given our community, the safety we enjoy, the families and neighborhoods that make Serritos a special place, and the many people who give their time, talents and energy to make our city a better place.

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Lord, tonight I especially lift up our mayor, each member of the city council, our city

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officials, and all the employees who serve this community.

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We recognize that leadership carries great responsibility.

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Behind every agenda item, every decision or people, families, businesses and neighborhoods

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that are affected by what happens in this chamber.

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So Father, I ask you would give our leaders wisdom beyond their own understanding, help them

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look beyond the immediate and consider what will serve the long-term good of

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three-dose. Give them discernment to recognize the needs of our community,

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including those needs that may not yet be obvious. Give them courage to make

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difficult decisions when necessary, and humility to listen carefully to one another

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into the residents they have been entrusted to serve. Lord help our counsel to work together

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with respect, civility, and unity even when there are differences of opinion. May their

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discussions be thoughtful, and their decisions be guided by what is best for the people of the

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Serritos rather than my personal interests or agendas. As they work through tonight's agenda,

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we pray for clarity in every discussion, wisdom in every decision, and cooperation among everyone

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gathered here. Father, I also pray for the families of these leaders and city employees. The work

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of public service often requires sacrifice, time, and energy. Bless them with good health,

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Peace in their homes, strength for the responsibilities they carry, enjoy and knowing that their service makes a difference in the lives of others.

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And finally Lord, we ask that you would continue to watch over the city of Serritos, protect our residents, our families, our first responders, and all who work to keep our communities safe and thriving.

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May this evening's meeting be conducted with wisdom, respect, and a genuine desire to serve.

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We ask all these things in your great and holy name.

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Amen.

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Thank you, Pastor Bob, for that very meaningful prayer. Thank you. Next we have

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Girl Scout Troop 313.

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Please place your right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America. And to the Republic of which it stands,

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One nation, under God, end of his book,

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and liberty and justice for you may be seated.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Did you want to share us your names and what school you go to?

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Okay.

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Hi, my name is Ella.

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What school do you go to?

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I go to Carre Nita, I went to Carre Nita school and 12 years old, and I'm angry and

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and a great.

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Very good.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Hi, my name is Holly and I am nine years old and I go to Stiles Elementary School.

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Well, thank you. Thank you to both of you for leading us in the pledge.

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Madam city clerk by

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Madam city clerk will you please conduct the role call council need to member honk

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Present council and agency member say is noted absent for the record

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Council and agency member Yoko Yamma here mayor

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Protem and Vice Chair Polito present mayor and chair Johnson present and the role calls complete with four members present

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Would the City Council an agency care to entertain a motion to excuse council an ins member safe in the meeting?

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It's not required.

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It's not required.

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All right.

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The next item is 5A.

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There are no presentation schedule for tonight's meeting.

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The next item is 5B City Manager.

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Do you have a report on this item?

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I guess thank you for this item.

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I'll defer to City Clerk, Cindy Nabe.

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Thank you, Mr. Lopez.

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Good evening, Honorable Mayor.

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members of the City Council, the item before you is consideration of the mayor's recommendation

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for appointments to internal ad hoc working groups and external boards, commissions and

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committees, and for community members service during the 2026-27 mayoral term.

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In just a moment, the mayor will present her nominations after which staff recommends the City

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Council receive public comment, then review, consider, and approve by majority action.

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Mayor Johnson's nominations for service appointments and direction to the City Clerk to

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Parent Post and Upsieded Fair Political Practices Commission, Agency Report of Public

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Official Appointments, and City Appointments brochure to the City's website as necessary

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and to coordinate the dissemination of contact information to any respective external bodies

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and appointees. This concludes my report and I'm available to answer any questions, the City Council

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may have, and this will be the appropriate time for the Mayor to present her nomination.

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Okay, thank you for the report. I'd like to make a following nominations and after opening

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public comment will ask for city council approval on the nomination on the internal ad hoc working group I'd like to appoint Frank Orelio Yokoyama as my alternate this is require a second

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The this does not require a second however our general in system does

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If you would like me to connect a roll call vote we can do that that will be done after public comments. Yes, all right, and at this time I will

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Open up for public comments on item 5, 5b, we are on item 5b,

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see none, do you have a comment, Mr.

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Parliament for 5b?

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Well, unfortunately, it doesn't be like, it relates to 5b and b and g, that is specifically your question.

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Okay, we'll hold yours off then to public comment on item 6.

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All right.

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We'll go ahead and hear your comment then on 5b at this time.

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Can I get you to raise this up a

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little bit?

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David Pileman, 7842, Sun Valley Way.

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At the last meeting, a member of the community

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objected to might be enabled to comment

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during this agenda item.

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I assert that any action you take, which reduces

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the number of meetings for the commissions,

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or limits their ability to provide input or discuss items

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related to their functions, can have a chilling effect

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on the public's willingness to accept appointment.

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Along these lines, I have asked the city attorney

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To consult with the city manager and reference to whether it is prudent to review regulations contained in the municipal code.

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When it appears recently, remember the public held positions within two commissions concurrently.

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This occurred because the citizen did not resign from one commission before they were appointed to another.

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Further, at the last meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission, it was stated that a potential budget reduction would have some effect on the recreation program.

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I had already objected to the July meeting of the Commission being cancelled.

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I believed it could have been moved to a more suitable date.

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But now the August meeting of that Commission has been cancelled.

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Therefore, the Commission members have not been able to hear what effect budget reductions will have on the August through June programs.

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I am likewise concerned about the cancellation of the July meeting of the Public Safety Committee.

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On at least three occasions, the issue of motorbike emergence has been mentioned.

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Neighboring cities are in the process of creating new ordinances dealing with increases and

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incidences with youth.

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Now, during budget considerations, Mr. Yokeama proposed a concert in the park for August.

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With the conversion of the Let Freedom Ring Committee to a Celebrations Committee,

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I anticipated that all these special events would be the per view of the Celebrations Committee.

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But there was no mention of this now identified as night out, being under the review of the Parks and Recreation Commission,

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when the Celebrations Committee met on June 24.

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This was after the Council had taken action on scheduling this activity.

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Now there was not a July Parks and Recreation Commission meeting for them to provide input on this event.

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And now, there is not an August Parks and Recreation Commission for them to get a report on the plans for this event.

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So in my household, we believe that the Director of Community and Cultural Services would appear at the June 24 and July 22 meetings of the Celebrations Committee.

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But as response to the inquiry to the mayor resulted in a message with confirmed this is a recreation event.

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I was somewhat concerned whether as Mr. Yoke Yamazentant and full knowledge from the rest

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of the council that the cost of this event would increase with the additional staffing

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by recreation services.

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If you are a member of the Parks and Recreation Commission, would you not feel your responsibilities

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were being served?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Palman.

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Do we have anybody else?

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Seeing none, Cindy, do we have any speakers that have called in?

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And then requesting to speak at this time.

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All right, very good.

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I will then go ahead to go ahead and close public comments.

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Does a city council have any questions or comments at this time?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Mayor, what was your nomination?

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For the budget and finance ad hoc committee,

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I needed an alternate.

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And I appointed you as alternate.

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So it would be you in Jennifer Hong and then I would be the alternate.

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you are replacing the current alternate and you will be the alternate or two people in that group.

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Any other questions?

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Comments?

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All right.

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We'll go ahead and vote.

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We have a motion.

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I'll second a motion.

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I'm just sorry.

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I didn't know that there's alternate.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Maybe I misspoke.

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It's not an alternate.

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There are two people in the group.

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You're correct. Thank you for correcting me. Okay. There are no alternates. There are two members in that group.

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I'm sorry. Thank you. Yeah.

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There's a first in the second.

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The motion passes on a vote of three to one. Thank you. Thank you.

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All right. The next item on the agenda is item six city clerk will you please provide additional information regarding item six under public comments.

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Thank you Mayor agenda item six public comment should be limited to items on the consent calendar close session and items not list on the agenda

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But that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body all public comment periods will be limited to three minutes per speaker

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Prior to the meeting the city council received full text and redacted copies of the one written comments submitted by the deadline for item six

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requests for copies of written comments can be made to the office of the city clerk during regular business hours.

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The time is currently 714 p.m.

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And the public comment period will end by approximately 759 p.m.

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If necessary to allow remote participants an equal opportunity to speak at the halfway mark of the 45 minute time limit,

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I will inform the city council.

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It is appropriate time to transition from in-person comments

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to the call of remote public speakers.

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Additionally, in accordance with newly enacted state

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requirements, if less than the full 45-minute time,

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a lot ofment is used during this time.

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The city council may at the conclusion of item six public comments

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proceed to the next item on the agenda.

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However, around $7.59 PM, around at the time

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that item concludes.

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item six public comments will be reopened to allow interested parties who have not already

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provided comments under item six to speak for the remaining time of the 45-minute

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allotment if there is such.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Before we continue, I'd like to speak about item six public comments.

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So Ritos is a community up.

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People who deeply care about our city. I see the passion, especially with those that have come to speak under public comments, healthy debate is part of democracy.

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We can agree to disagree, and I know so many people have written in or have come out to speak and provide ideas and suggestions such as the CCPA, water rates, golf course, et cetera.

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just because your sex suggestion is not acted upon,

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please don't mean that we have ignored it.

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It's been considered, but oftentimes it's just not feasible.

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So please do not think we're not listening.

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But what concerns me is when disagreements become personal attacks,

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especially on social media,

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and even directed at some of our elders in the community.

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Behind every post, and just like what Pastor Bob said,

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Behind every post or comment is a real person with family, friends, neighbors who are affected by the words we choose.

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I encourage us all to disagree with ideas and to not diminish the people.

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Let's treat viewpoints with dignity and respect that is the Serritos way.

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I also want to briefly address our public comment procedures, the three minute time limit is not intended to silence anyone's voice.

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It is in place to ensure that everyone has a fair and equal opportunity to be heard.

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The microphone is automatically turned off, at the end of the allotted time, to ensure the rule is applied consistently and fairly.

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Sometimes it can be difficult for me to interrupt someone while they are speaking, and as

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if you have seen in the past, meetings where the microphone was turned off, some folks

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still want to continue speaking. So with the automatic cut off, it provides a neutral and

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uniform way to enforce the time limit for everyone. This is especially important with the implementation

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of Senate Bill 707, which allows members of the public to participate remotely by telephone.

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As participation increases, we must also be mindful of the 45-minute total allotted for public

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comments so that as many people as possible have the opportunity to be heard while allowing the council

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to complete the public's business. I do want to say that serritos has been very fair to

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are residents. Some cities agendize public comments at the very end of their meetings, meetings.

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And some cities don't even turn on the video during public comments because they turn off the camera.

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We don't do that here in Serritos. I also want to share a helpful reminder about public comments.

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The public comment portion of our meetings is your opportunity to share your thoughts, your concerns, your opinions,

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with the City Council.

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However, under state law, the Council generally cannot engage in a dialogue or respond to comments on items that are not on the agenda.

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As a result, you may receive and you may not receive an immediate answer or follow up during the meeting.

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So if you have a question that requires a response, need assistance with a city service or want to resolve an issue,

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the most effective approach is to contact staff directly.

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Our staff is available to answer questions, research issues, and work with you to find solutions.

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So let's build a city that respects different viewpoints, despite our differences, we are all part of one community.

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So with that, I will go ahead and open up public comments

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and our first speaker, Mr. Palman.

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You're speaking again under item six.

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Thank you, Mr. Palman.

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Let me begin by expressing my appreciation for being able to speak to four of you, Mr. Plato.

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But early in the day on July 4, this honk for close to two hours is to say for about

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50 minutes and the Mayor Johnson for just over an hour.

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I was present in the chamber when after Mr. Galucci had announced his retirement there

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was discussion among the council whether a consultant should be hired to help with the selection

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of a new city manager.

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Mr. Barrill has insisted that we could learn from having a consultant.

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As I stood at the podium during that time, it was my belief that the group assembled

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at this end of the room could efficiently prepare a slate of candidates for the council to select from.

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Of course, today, only one person on this side of the podium remains.

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Now I understand a couple of you were still employees at that time, but you did not sit here.

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The city manager should have the right to have staff with him whom he is comfortable with.

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But he must take the responsibility whether those who he promotes or hires meets the needs of the council and the community.

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So over the last month in reviewing written public comment that has come into the council, from bits of pieces of information that I have uncovered, and from comments from members of the community, I now wonder how much information are the residents entitled to know.

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I am concerned that it is possible in an attorney, not the city attorney who sits before

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us at each meeting, has received an amount rumored at $1.8 million, associated with a

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personal matter.

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I was dismayed to know that around $450,000 was cut from the public works park budget, which previously

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was used for outside contract work, mostly for bright view landscaping.

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I heard that bright review will have 30 less employees in the city now.

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But I'm also concerned about why Curtis Forsythe needs to speak at each meeting as a resident

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he has the right to speak, but why the need.

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For a long time I did not understand what he was talking about, but now with a little information

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who can't the city resolve this issue.

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We, as residents, should expect better judgment by those who we elect and better performance by those we hire.

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Mr. Lopez, the ball is in your court.

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Thank you, Mr. Palman. Next, we have Sam Desayan after Sam Desayan.

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We have Benjamin Al.

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Good evening, Mayor.

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Council Member, City staff, friends.

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Mayor, I'm here because you invited residents to come and give you some ideas about CCPA.

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Contact City Hall.

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It's going to take more than three minutes. So I'm requesting that please extend my time to five minutes. I'll keep on speaking. I know that this is all automatic, but it's all right. You can always extend my time.

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But I'm going to keep your time along with everybody else. It'll be three minutes.

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Let me just, can we get back? I'm sorry I didn't hear what did you say?

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Go ahead and speak here three minutes. Absolutely, but in case it gets shut off, I'll keep on speaking.

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This is just letting you know upfront, so there shouldn't be any misunderstanding what happens once the mic gets shut off.

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So CCPA needs new ideas, and the community needs more than three minutes to give it to you.

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Three minutes is not enough time to properly discuss the future of Seritor's Center for Performing Arts.

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And since you have asked for ideas, we should be given time and you should listen to us.

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For years, residents have offered practical ideas to help CCPA generate more revenues, attract larger audiences and reduce fiscal burden.

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Yet, year after year, very little appears to change.

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If you can just give us a few more minutes today, two more minutes, ma'am.

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I can share with you with you top 10 ideas.

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So what are these ideas? Let's talk about the first one.

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I know I only have one minute, 17 seconds left, and we have just one idea number one.

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And we'll have 10 ideas to go through, so I hope you give a little bit more time, ma'am.

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First, install electronic sign visible from 91 freeway.

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Consider that idea.

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Hundreds of thousands of people drive through, and we want CCPA to be known.

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Residents have given this idea, and we just haven't seen from you acknowledge that idea.

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So, again, if you can consider that, we would really appreciate that.

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Allow me to move on to point number 2 out of 10.

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I'll get to the real finish in five minutes, but point number two, consider parking fee of $5 per vehicle.

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I know, you know, it's a reasonable fee.

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And we are looking to its creating a dependable income stream.

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Third idea, ma'am, I know it's important to you that you hear our ideas and you will not cut ourselves an idea number three.

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How about offering serritos residents, discounts, when you don't have cell-out shows last

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minute, and you give some discounts, then it really helps. The fourth.

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I'm sorry Mr. Desire, your time is up. The microphone is off. There are rules that are

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been given to everybody in this room. I'm going to take a recess at this time.

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going to take a recess at this time.

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Take a recess.

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All right, we're back in session. City Attorney.

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Take it from here.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor and members of the City Council. We do have the suite of guidebook for elected

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and appointed officials, and we do have a protocol manual that dictates how the order

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of business and the conduct of meetings is to be enacted. And so as part of that under section

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three, F of the protocol, it does indicate what a disturbance is and a disruption of a meeting.

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So, to the extent that we have already adopted rules, we're shifting speakers for public

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comments to three minutes.

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Those that go over are warned that they have gone over and are requested to wrap up

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their comments.

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And if they persist, they may be removed for a disruption.

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And so that is in accordance with COVID-19 code 549-57.955.

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Thank you.

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So, you know, folks, we want to hear all of you.

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We have a bunch of speakers on this list.

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We may have some folks calling in.

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We only have 45 minutes to do this as per our guide book.

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I'm giving everybody three minutes a fair amount of time for each and every one of you.

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So let's just try to get along here and not ruin it for the others.

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So the next person we have is Benjamin now and then Carla Gilheiss.

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Good evening.

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About a month ago, I stood here at this podium.

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urgent, our city council members, to let ongoing democratic processes in town, run their

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course.

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I ask them not to do anything that would further alienate their constituents.

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It seems that those please fail on deaf ears.

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In early July, the owners of a VNW culture, long time sorry those residents whose small business

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has served this community for decades,

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volunteered to circulate the repeal and recall petitions.

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I provided those petitions to them

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at my capacity as a private citizen.

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Last Monday, council member Yokoyama went into their store

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and confronted them about petitions.

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According to the owners, he told them

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they could not have petitions bearing his name there.

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He said something like, you own a business,

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and you wouldn't want your business to be inconvenienced.

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He then called me and operated me for approximately an hour and a half

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and over my involvement with the petitions.

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He accused me of betraying my oath of office and told me I was

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aburning my bridges.

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As a planning commissioner, I understood that as a threat

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against my appointment.

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On Tuesday, I visited the store,

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and they were shaken, but decided to keep circulating the petitions.

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On Wednesday, Mr. Yokoyama went back, when he saw his recall

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of petitions, so was still there. He became upset and began taking pictures of the petitions.

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The owners objected to it and out of concern about the privacy of people who had assigned the petitions.

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And after a verbal altercation, the store owners had to ask him to leave and never come back.

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Mr. Yokoyama then called me again and very unhappy about the fact that he's recovered,

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not having been removed.

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By Thursday, the owners told me that the confrontations with him made them feel threatened and uncomfortable so they would stop circulating the protections.

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This was not an isolated incident according to staff members at another signing location.

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Mr. Yucca Yama also visited there and demanded that the recopotitions be removed.

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Mr. Yokama, you were elected to represent the residence and uphold the law.

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What you did is known as a voter intimidation and the election interference and it is

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not lawful in the state of California.

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You need to stop and apologize to those who have been affected by what you did.

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Thank you, Mr. Owl.

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next week of Carla Gill Highs and after that we have Steve Stollies.

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Mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor.

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Yes, because I don't want there to be misinformation and lies.

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So, please have decorum. Thank you.

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So, first I'll say that we are all Americans and we have all have freedom of speech under the

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the amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

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You let in serritos, you let it in a point of the officials have freedom of speech, just

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like any other resident of serritos, just like any other resident of the community.

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So in ends, I'm going to ask, Mr. Stalinges, I'm going to ask, Mr. Stalinges, I'm going to ask,

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I'm not running while I'm talking, Mr. Stalinges, please. I'm talking to correct misinformation

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So elected and appointed officials have a first amendment right to engage in political activities

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while off duty and outside of city owned or city controlled property and facilities.

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They made public positions as private citizens on candidates or ballot measures.

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This means council members, commissioners and committee members may use their free time effort

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to support or oppose the water repeal initiative or the recall effort.

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So I have a first amendment right.

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I have freedom of speech just like all of you.

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And I will fight to protect each and every one of yours.

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First amendment rights to freedom of speech.

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Just like I will assert my own first amendment right, the freedom of speech.

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What I will say is that when I went into that business, I had a witness, Bill Hu, he will disagree with everything that was said about how I acted in that business.

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The only person whose voice was raised were other than me.

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And Benjamin Allen, I had to talk about it after I, Benjamin Allen had to talk on the phone about that afterwards on my cell phone.

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My cell phone keeps time on how long phone calls are.

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I did not talk to him for an hour and a half.

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My cell phone, I'll show myself on to anybody who wants to see it and they'll see the phone

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call I had with him.

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The number was nowhere near an hour and a half.

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But what I want to say is Benjamin and I when I talked and he told me on his own that

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he was going to go to the business and talk to them about removing the petitions.

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I said, thank you Benjamin, but there is another business that he brought up when I talked

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to the owner of that business and he got full information about what was in his business,

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he made a decision on his own as the owner of the business on what he wanted to do with

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the petitions in this business.

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Okay, so Mr. Allen Cam made a decision based on information provided to him by me and other people.

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Okay, so I have freedom of speech, just like all of you have freedom of speech.

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Okay, one thing I didn't do, one thing I did not do was use my profession,

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use my position.

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Unfortunately, when I went to that business and I saw the petitions in the business that Benjamin

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was talking about, it's city of Serritos, planning commissioner business cards were attached

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to the petitions.

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That is not allowed.

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That is not allowed to use the core and the core and use the city of Serritos, planning

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commission business card for the petitions to make it seem as if this was something that

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supported by the City of Serritos.

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So

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Boko was my witness at the business. Grace who

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Grace who has been my witness at both businesses because she was involved with both of those businesses.

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So I have witnesses. I cannot do anything illegal. Please do not take comments when someone

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grace you. Please do not make comments for some who are the witnesses. So where are the business owners who are claiming

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that I didn't anything illegal. There's only one thing that was illegal that happened.

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Why wasn't there a police report? Why wasn't there a report? Why wasn't there? Please do not make comments

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when someone is in a Serritos Sheriff Station. Why wasn't there a Sheriff Station report taking

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If I did something illegal, but you know what, there was, I have freedom of speech and you know what happened

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There was a there was a sheriff station report taken because people don't agree with me because I oppose

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The Serritos Republican led red recall against me because I'm a Democrat and

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Please and people and please do not be

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disagree with my freedom of speech, somebody thought, somebody thought it was okay, I'm going

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to ask your father, if you do not, somebody thought it was okay, we'll have a recess. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, folks. We're back again. I respectfully ask everyone to please maintain the quorum during tonight's meeting. I want to hear everything that you guys have to say. And it's very hard to hear what you're saying when there's mumbling, there's giggling, there's talking in the where you're seated. It doesn't allow me to hear what the speaker is saying. So it's very difficult. So please, I don't talk during your public comment.

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please do not talk when other people are speaking. I want to run an efficient meeting.

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We have a timed public comments. We now have 35 minutes left for public comments out of the total 45.

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That's a lot. We're not going to be able to get through all of that if there's a lot of disruption.

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So if everyone just follows the rules, just follow the rules.

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Okay. All right. Now we have.

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So may or don't don't start to time yet and I'll be it. I'll be quick.

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Okay, please.

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So what I held up again, I'm going to ask you not to say anything, please.

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So what I held up was this. Please.

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So what I held up was this comments.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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What I held up was this police report because

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because somebody disagreed with my position that I opposed the recalls

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and he supports the recalls.

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He threatened me on social media, on Facebook.

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He said that Frank Yoko Yama might want to be careful.

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And he posted a photo of four gentlemen holding guns.

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And people liked it.

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People egged him on.

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People supported it.

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And meanwhile, there's a photo, a foreman in front of a business in Serritos holding guns.

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And this person who disagrees with me disagrees with my first amendment rights.

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He said, Frank, Yokoyama might want to be careful.

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So I filed a police, I filed a sheriff's report with the station, and you received the photos,

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and the report was taken right, Captain.

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We did generate a report for that incident.

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So if you disagree with me, let's agree to disagree, but don't threaten me on social media

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with Massman and gentlemen in Army, military for Deeds, holding guns, telling me that I might want to be careful.

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All right.

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We are now with Carla Gilhuis after that is Steve Stollings.

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Again, please maintain decorum.

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Thank you.

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Witness recently regarding the recall

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petitions for council members,

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Johnson and Yokeyama,

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is nothing short of an absolute abuse of

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municipal power.

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It is one thing to defend your record

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and public debate.

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It's an entirely different and illegal

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matter to use the power of your office

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to intimidate residents and local businesses of

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Serritos.

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First, let us address the threats

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directed at city commissioners

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and committee appointees,

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stating that the committee or commission

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a pointy can face retaliatory removal, simply for exercising their constitutional right to sign

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or assist a petition, it's an ethical and tyrannical.

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Public appointments are meant to serve our community, not to buy absolute political

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field to an individual council member.

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Second, Frank, for you to go into local businesses, yelling at small business owners and

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rating them for hosting petitions, signing stations, crosses a very dangerous line. Small businesses

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are the backbone of Serritos, expecting local shopkeepers to police or suppress lawful

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public discourse under threat of a municipal friction is outright coercion. Let me be clear.

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This behavior, Frank, look at me when I'm talking to you. It's bad ethics. It's

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Under California election code Division 18 chapter 7, state law, explicitly prohibits interference,

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misrepentation, and voter intimidation during the circulation of recall petitions.

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Furthermore threatening public appointees with retaliatory action for engaging in protective

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political activity, violates our first amendment and guarantees that state labor protections

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are governing public service.

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The right of the electorate to petition their government for a redress of grievances is a cornerstone

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of California's Constitution.

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You do not own your council seats.

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You hold them in the trust of the public.

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When you attempt to stifle the recall process by harassing business owners and silencing

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appointees, you degrade the integrity of this city and you make us a laughing stock and you've

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broke in the public trust. We are taking note. The local business community is taking note.

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And the voters of Serritos will not be intimidated. Stop retaliating against civic volunteers.

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Stop harassing local shopkeepers. Let the democratic process move forward without municipal

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strong army. Or be prepared to face the legal and electoral consequences of your actions.

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starting with season to cis letters can Robert can someone come and take these from me there's one there's a copy here for every member on the council and then I have copies for Pam Cynthia and Robert

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Thank you, next we have Steve Stollings and then Anna Rodriguez.

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Hi, I'm Steve Stollings, resident of Serritos for 49 years.

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And my concern tonight is item 7F, which is on the consent calendar,

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which means we won't have a chance to discuss it, or here have any public comment about it.

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I'm formally requesting that item 7F, which is the change order for the C4 well site,

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be moved from the consent calendar to the Council meeting calendar so it can be discussed

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at a future meeting.

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Please get off tonight.

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You're taking my time.

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The reason I want this made public so we can discuss it is that at the last meeting

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I attended Miss Johnson in February.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,160
Regarding the water issues, you lied to us. You lied to the entire city from your seat as Mayor

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Protamut that time. You said that we should be grateful that the city has been augmenting our

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water bill and paying a portion that we weren't covering for up until these new increases.

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That

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funds through pop-to-18 didn't spend those funds on water infrastructure and owed them back

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to us.

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I want to make sure that we got them all back before we start giving you extra money for

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new projects.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Stollings.

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Next, we have Anna Rodriguez and then Norma Williamson.

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01:00:57,500 --> 01:00:58,540
Good evening, Council.

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01:00:59,780 --> 01:01:03,200
Farewell with me, I'm a little nervous, I have to read off of my phone.

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01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:09,020
My name is Anna Rodriguez. I am here with former Hawaiian Gardens Mayor Mike Gomez.

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Hello, my, hi, Rosie. And also former ABC Elementary School teacher, Rosie Gomez.

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We are part of the Robert Canada Friendship Powel. We host the City of Wayne Gardens

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Hoses this event every year. This will be our 26th. So we are actually here to invite everybody,

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the council and also staff and also the residents. This is a celebration of

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culture, tradition and unity. So we're hoping that you guys could join us

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on August 22nd and the 23rd from 12 to 8 on Saturday and on Sunday from 12 to 6.

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We did email invitations earlier this afternoon. I also brought a physical copy for

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for you guys, so if you guys join us, we'd be happy to have you guys.

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:07,820
Thank you.

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01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,560
Thank you.

519
01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:15,600
I'm very familiar with that annual event and do you have a flyer or something you can share with us?

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,680
I gave it to you when it's a good one.

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,000
And thank you for sharing that with our city, you came from your city to share with our city.

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01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:27,060
And thank you, honorable, former mayor, Mike Gomez for joining us here tonight.

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Thank you.

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,400
Norma Williamson and then Deborah Barry.

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01:02:37,550 --> 01:02:41,470
Norma. Norma's not here. Deborah Barry. Deborah Barry and then Charles.

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01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:57,700
Hi. Good evening. I'm actually here for Robert Chivell. He asked me to come down to read his comments out.

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So I said, sure. I'll go read your comments. So here's his comments.

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,980
Good evening. Council staff and fellow residents. Sorry. I cannot be there in person or participate via zoom.

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01:03:07,380 --> 01:03:10,940
I hope this letter will suffice. I write regarding the city's golf course.

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01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:17,180
The golf course is a beautiful beautiful and valuable asset. Yeah, it has been losing hundreds of thousands of dollars

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01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:25,420
Dipperans, sorry, that's actually an agendized item and he asks that I say during public

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01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:33,400
Like I will wait till that please to be fair to everybody request that I'd say at this

533
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:39,260
Thank you and we do have his written comment as well. Okay, well, then I will reserve the rest of my time to speak on myself

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I don't know what's going on right here because I just checked out because this is crazy like I got all involved with the water thing and then I just couldn't it because it was insane

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01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:56,840
But I mean this has got to stop like just let it go Frank just let it go

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01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,860
Okay at some point you just need to stop and just everybody just stop

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01:04:00,860 --> 01:04:08,560
Right and you guys don't talk back like I've talked before and you said that in the beginning of the meeting that it's not appropriate to talk back and it's not

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so don't talk back okay stop okay that's all and I'll come back at the water

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thank you Deborah next we have Charles and then Marty Powers.

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01:04:33,390 --> 01:04:34,270
My name is Charles

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sooter I've been a resident city of sootles for 57 years I have this here

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01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:46,870
same time the dairy cattle we're here. I regret coming up coming to the meeting today

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01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:51,270
I feel like I walked into a gunfight at the OK Corral.

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I was really going to talk about the city budget crisis, both the operating cost that

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is getting wider and also the aging infrastructure.

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I've changed my mind.

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01:05:07,550 --> 01:05:10,670
I think I want to talk about transparency.

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I was very encouraged when the city staff opened up the discussions about the problems the city has for the budget.

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I was encouraged that we would eventually reach a conclusion which we have not yet.

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So I'm recommending that we continue transparency with some more town hall meetings.

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to give everyone these people here, the chance to come in and talk about what's on their mind.

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Because they have some questions. I haven't do every see of this little flyer here from the activists.

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01:05:47,050 --> 01:05:53,910
And seems what they're seeking is the city to justify any replacement rates and transparent data.

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01:05:54,230 --> 01:06:01,090
And lawful cost of service analysis. I'm not sure what that means, but if you were to have a town hall meeting give them a chance to

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to express their concerns, listen to the presentations,

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and get the facts.

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I think we can converge on a possible solution.

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I don't like coming in here, listening to bickering

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01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:15,830
between this side and that side,

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so I'm recommending more transparency.

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Also, recommend the same thing for the budget crises,

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the operating cost.

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01:06:24,250 --> 01:06:25,570
It has not been resolved.

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01:06:26,250 --> 01:06:28,970
I recommend we not put it off for another year

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after the city reserves have been reduced by $10.6 million and we're closer to the cliff.

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Let's open the discussions. Let's have some more town hall meetings. Let's focus on solutions.

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And let's converge to something that we can all agree with. All we need is a majority of the

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01:06:58,950 --> 01:07:05,050
more transparency, more town hall meetings, I would be in attendance if you were to

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a blind set request. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Suter. Next we have Marty Powers and then

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Case.

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01:07:21,010 --> 01:07:28,630
Good evening. Where you powers 1, 3, 1, 6, 5 hour bell drive. First off, I would like to

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give you some positive.

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On one pushing back, the rate increase, appreciate that for six months. The other positive that I don't know where I'll exactly go, but we are very highly taxed in this community. I think 9.75, not going forward with the 1% at this time referendum for additional tax and put us in the LA.

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,900
And we just go over to where all my wife's cousins have moved to,

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01:07:59,140 --> 01:08:01,360
Tuston, I think, 7.75.

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01:08:02,260 --> 01:08:06,820
Also speaking of Tuston, that's where we go now to enjoy music on Wednesdays

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01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:08,060
because we don't have it here.

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01:08:09,620 --> 01:08:12,260
I'm married to Juston Chen.

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01:08:13,020 --> 01:08:18,460
She's a long time citizen in this community for some of you.

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You may know her.

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01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:31,520
And one of the things that I'm speaking as a family on is simply, we have to do more to build cohesiveness.

582
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:39,680
These people, myself and good, we're not feeling respect from you and we're not giving respect back then.

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01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,780
So it's a two-way street. You have to grow a little thicker skin.

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01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:47,400
all these open times for comments.

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,600
There should be no discussion.

586
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,060
This is just let it go.

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,880
Listen to what we have to say.

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Perculate it and see where it goes.

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And then finally, we are a grain community.

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01:08:59,820 --> 01:09:01,700
The school enrollment is sliding.

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Has for many years.

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01:09:03,740 --> 01:09:06,220
Finally, now the school board has come to the reckoning.

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01:09:06,860 --> 01:09:08,200
The other thing is simply,

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we have kicked a proverbial can down the road,

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but like myself, just on an eye and many of you, we live in a cul-de-sac. We don't have any

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01:09:17,740 --> 01:09:23,740
more places to kick it. We're going to have to become a little bit sharp and a little sharper

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01:09:23,740 --> 01:09:32,680
with the pencil and spend less. Stop digging. We're in a hole. Now, leave you with this. We've bought

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:39,700
many of our cars from the Serritos all along. We'll ask three. I'm not sure how many of you have.

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you are a City Council representatives. The only car that I know you can't buy a brand new

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01:09:45,980 --> 01:09:55,000
over there is the Mercedes-Benz you can get used. If you talk to the general managers of a few

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,520
of the places they will tell you they are not the only game in town they haven't been for a long

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:06,980
time. Everybody's got an auto mall now. So we have to spend within our means, live within

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01:10:06,980 --> 01:10:14,180
our means. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Powers. Next we have case and then Rocky Pavone.

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01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:32,030
Good evening. Case, Randall and resident for 55 years. Same location. Do I've seen the changes

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01:10:32,030 --> 01:10:39,850
in this city? Unfortunately, there have been not very good. I want to speak of the homeless issue.

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01:10:39,850 --> 01:10:46,790
I have rang my bell, and Robert been very helpful, but I think the city council should

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01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:47,590
get involved.

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01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:52,930
This homeless issue I have never seen before the way has been known in the last year.

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You folks need to do something about it, and you cannot hide under the fact that that is

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01:10:59,150 --> 01:11:02,490
owned by Metro, yes, but it's still your city.

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01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:05,790
It is rampant, it's all over.

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We had earlier this year an incident where a 3 o'clock in the morning was a guy in front

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01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:13,810
of our house hollering for help.

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01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:19,710
The police came and I'm sure that he came from that homeless in camp and some fight or

615
01:11:19,710 --> 01:11:24,310
something like that, but it is crazy that that is going on.

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That goes along with all the other things.

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You folks like to do to your horn about safety, I got news for you, we still have robbers

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01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:39,590
and plenty of it. In the call for sex and everywhere else, I cannot understand why the city

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could not work with this gentleman who is not here, but he had orchestrated 30 cameras

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that were mounted on the electric poles. While somewhere on the line, I think you could have

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worked with him to retain those cameras. That was a positive thing that happened in his neighborhood.

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01:12:00,490 --> 01:12:03,670
It's crazy that you guys cannot work with that.

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01:12:03,850 --> 01:12:09,410
We have still issues, you know, you like the drum, you and too to horn about safety.

624
01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:13,970
But the safety is not very well organized.

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01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:15,750
Thank you very much.

626
01:12:16,270 --> 01:12:18,870
Thank you, Mr. Van Der Linden, next we have Rocky Pavilion.

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01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:21,890
Honorable Mayor, members of the City Council.

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01:12:21,930 --> 01:12:27,090
If I may, after this next speaker, if we could transition to the remote speakers, we do

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01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:28,170
have a couple of everything hand.

630
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:29,110
Thank you so much.

631
01:12:29,150 --> 01:12:29,650
Thank you.

632
01:12:32,060 --> 01:12:38,320
I'm here at this evening to stop and cease the abuse of power, which has happened to

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:43,140
run our councilman and they all began back in March 3rd, 2020 prior to your election.

634
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,260
Mayor Linda Johnson, you can look at me, it's okay.

635
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,220
When I was running for Serita City Council, you were driving around your L.A. County

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:53,080
van.

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01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:53,620
I don't know.

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01:12:53,620 --> 01:12:54,020
I don't know.

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01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:54,460
I don't know.

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,480
I don't know.

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01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:07,220
Whitney High School, which is no regulations against public campaigning at the time you were

642
01:13:07,220 --> 01:13:12,060
supporting another candidate, so you abused your power, and you called the Sereto Sheriff

643
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:18,760
Station on me to get me off the sidewalk to shut me up. About six deputies, imagine six deputies

644
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:25,700
surrounded me and we're called to stop me from exercising my constitutional right freedom of speech.

645
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,680
Can you believe that in America? They should be out there stopping criminals,

646
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:36,980
burglarizing our homes. Not some person trying to throw their power and stop a person from doing what

647
01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:43,960
they can do as to speak up for their rights and freedoms. On April 8th, 2026, at the mayoral

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,600
transition, Linda Johnson, you violated the California Brown Act and shut up all the

649
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:54,360
residents, including myself, who filled I come a comment card to speak that night and you

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:59,120
actually adjourn that to the next meeting, which I had to work in the next meeting. So therefore,

651
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,520
I've never got a chance to speak because you shut me up to talk about the recalls of

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,120
healed of water rate increases.

653
01:14:04,540 --> 01:14:10,640
Linda, when you had a commissioner, Daisy Lagosca, who spoke against one of the decisions

654
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:16,900
that you made or disagreed with you, you actually shut her up by terminating her from her

655
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:20,340
commission, a pointy position that you had given her.

656
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:27,280
So the way I see it at this moment, it seems as if Serritos is turning from democracy to communism.

657
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:35,570
It's my way or the highway. I was here with the residents. This place was packed and we all

658
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:42,530
disagreed with increasing our water rates. I stayed here till midnight. Most of the people left already.

659
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:51,620
But guess what? You decided and your constituents, Protem Mayor, and which was Frank Yokehama at the time,

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01:14:51,620 --> 01:14:59,160
and then proclaim Mayor Polito, all agreed to raise our water rates against the popular consensus.

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01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:08,390
And I still don't understand why the residents continue to vote for people who lack financial literacy.

662
01:15:09,230 --> 01:15:18,430
And I've been in financial education business the last 32 years, and still I can't wait to get on this council seat and turn this city around before it goes into communism.

663
01:15:19,050 --> 01:15:24,890
And I don't understand why you didn't allow me to speak, but I recommend you to allow other voters to have their opinion. It's okay Frank.

664
01:15:24,890 --> 01:15:34,810
It's okay, Linda. It's okay, Jennifer. It's okay, Mark. Allow other people to speak their mind and let's come to a consensus how we can approve this city because right now we are on the edge.

665
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,560
Thank you, Mr. Pavone.

666
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,400
Your three minutes are up. Thank you.

667
01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:53,850
For the record, Miss Lagosca was removed by the vote of the city council.

668
01:15:55,770 --> 01:15:57,490
Is normal Williams in here?

669
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:59,470
Okay, thank you.

670
01:15:59,470 --> 01:16:07,370
Cindy Gohead, spirit, spirit, speaker, spirit, please unmute your microphone and begin your comments.

671
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:12,420
Good evening.

672
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:14,580
Can you hear me?

673
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,360
We can hear you, speaker.

674
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,620
So, good evening, may I counsel in the.

675
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,320
And thank you, pastor, for your kind words.

676
01:16:23,180 --> 01:16:27,540
I will be making comments or remarks mainly in the Mr. Yokayama.

677
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:30,940
But if the shoe fits, you may wear it too.

678
01:16:30,940 --> 01:16:42,480
We, the public, elected you to represent us in the manager city, it's resources and how it can benefit residents, businesses, and employees.

679
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:49,440
You, as council members, are not entitled to any more power than that.

680
01:16:51,260 --> 01:16:57,620
As council members, you already have the bully pulpit from the diast that you have demonstrated.

681
01:16:59,890 --> 01:17:06,830
respect for the elderly is deeply rooted in our cultures. The concept of the

682
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:14,390
show in Chinese regardless it is our duty to protect the young and the old. Perhaps

683
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:20,830
you can understand my profound dismay at the behavior Mr. Yokayama at the owner of

684
01:17:20,830 --> 01:17:29,240
the bookstore. This is shameful behavior that cannot be tolerated. Mr. Yokayama, how

685
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:37,560
you feel if those were your parents and somebody did that to you. I hope you'd be outraged.

686
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:48,380
Your actions and words are not congruent. During the election, you said, I will keep you safe.

687
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:57,990
Now it's a read-as that means to be kept safe from you. Let's talk about safety. You keep

688
01:17:57,990 --> 01:18:05,830
talking about how the safety has gone down. It hasn't. When compared to other cities,

689
01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:12,330
recently we've had a state of burglary, but we don't want to talk about that, because it looks

690
01:18:12,330 --> 01:18:12,950
bad.

691
01:18:15,260 --> 01:18:21,380
You said, you had respect for women, including your daughter, your sister, your mother, your wife,

692
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:28,640
then you went on to name a junction after one Robert Bill. Tell me how that is congruent.

693
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,760
You flip up like a fish out of water.

694
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,500
You blame the residents for not allowing the tax

695
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:46,780
increased. You pined on that last year over and over and steadily. Now you say, you

696
01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:52,640
don't want any taxes. This is what I mean by, you flip-flop. You don't keep your words.

697
01:18:53,140 --> 01:18:55,760
You go on the winning side and you think that's a winning strategy.

698
01:18:58,290 --> 01:18:59,250
This really doesn't

699
01:18:59,250 --> 01:19:06,990
it well with me. And for the rest of you council members, I hope you understand. There are other

700
01:19:06,990 --> 01:19:12,190
leaders in the city who too are shaking their head. They won't come out and speak in public,

701
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:17,270
but they are disappointed by the inaction of some of you.

702
01:19:20,730 --> 01:19:21,950
Thank you, Mr. Childhawn.

703
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:24,420
Next speaker,

704
01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:30,620
speaker Raymond Kim, please unmute your microphone and begin your comments.

705
01:19:33,700 --> 01:19:34,580
Hi, can you hear me?

706
01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:42,340
We can use speaker. Oh great. Great. Thank you. Thank you for the chance to speak. Yeah, you know sounds like a very exciting place to be at

707
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:50,760
I wish I could be there. It sounds like a fun place to be. Yeah, so I guess so that you know my comment is a you know more about

708
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:58,020
You know we have a lot of immigrant business owners in Serritos, so cow or Kizha

709
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,920
And I think a lot may not know about the rights to remove

710
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:24,120
trespassers. So, you know, all business owners, you know, residents included, you have the right to remove anyone that you want that's on your property. You have the right to ask them to leave if they don't leave the second they don't leave when you ask them to leave their trespassing.

711
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:39,500
So, that's breaking the law. Now, you know, in that moment, you do have a right to inject a trespasser using proportional and reasonable meanings.

712
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:45,840
Now, so you know, that's kind of all situational, right?

713
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:50,600
But you do have the right to ask the trespasser to leave.

714
01:20:51,000 --> 01:21:00,200
And if they don't leave, then you can proportionally and reasonably use means to make them leave.

715
01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:07,010
Now, that's all something that business owners have often thought about, I'm sure, you know,

716
01:21:07,010 --> 01:21:10,410
than a lot of the crime and trespassing

717
01:21:10,410 --> 01:21:12,050
that they faced in the past.

718
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:14,850
But a lot of our immigrant business owners

719
01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:19,610
actually come from countries where there is a dictatorship.

720
01:21:19,970 --> 01:21:21,270
You grew up under dictatorship.

721
01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:28,030
Now, I'll kill 80 million Chinese yet in Cambodia,

722
01:21:28,330 --> 01:21:30,230
though the millions of killings.

723
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:34,470
You have a lot of immigrants that grew up

724
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:42,010
are dictatorships where if you spoke out against a political leader, you're going to go to jail.

725
01:21:42,690 --> 01:21:47,710
And that's something that when you grow up and that it's hard to realize that, you know,

726
01:21:47,710 --> 01:21:54,330
oh, like in this situation, when I'm in America, like we don't live in that kind of place.

727
01:21:54,910 --> 01:22:01,850
So this is, you know, one means for immigrant business owners to understand that they do have

728
01:22:01,850 --> 01:22:11,090
the right to remove the trespassers and that trespasser can be a politician that is infringing

729
01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:18,890
on our democratic rights. So yeah, I think it's great that we have so many immigrants that

730
01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:25,050
love their constitutional rights. All of them, and I think we need to really encourage

731
01:22:25,050 --> 01:22:29,970
you know, more and more cereals residents tend to embrace their clots too.

732
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:36,360
Right? And to leave behind the PTSD of growing up in dictatorships. That's not common.

733
01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:41,620
Thank you. So, do you have any more?

734
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:52,200
May or at this time, at this time, we have no other remote participants requesting to speak, and we have just under eight minutes remaining of the 45 minute time, a lot of my freedom six.

735
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:59,960
okay great are there any other speakers from the audience if you have any did you feel

736
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:05,700
a lot of speaker card if you'd like to speak you could feel a lot of speaker card

737
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:11,720
why don't you

738
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:19,400
just go ahead and speak and feel out the speaker card afterwards thank you I'll be quick I didn't

739
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:27,500
really intend on speaking today um first I want to say is this really what we want right now um I was

740
01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:37,760
I think it was after Deepa's comments and I'm not sure who's comments it was but Frank came up to me and asked me why I was clapping and yes, I do support what's going on here today

741
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:51,160
I'm saying that as a resident and after that Frank took it upon himself to walk up to his appointees and one of your appointees let the know that I signed the recall petition and yes, I signed the recall petition

742
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:58,180
My family did too. He said my mom posted about all of her Facebook. That's not true. I looked on her Facebook. There's nothing there

743
01:23:58,180 --> 01:24:06,100
She doesn't know how to post to any of the groups. I even called her an aster when I went outside because I want to verify that my family's the most important thing to me

744
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:13,380
And I'm not gonna let anybody say that they said or did things that they didn't do so my mom absolutely did not post a Facebook about the recall

745
01:24:14,060 --> 01:24:18,940
That's absolutely not true. I can go on my Facebook show you show you that she didn't do that

746
01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:21,260
but I don't know, I don't have much else to say.

747
01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:23,180
This is, this is ridiculous.

748
01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:24,240
What's going on?

749
01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:25,320
I've lived in Serita.

750
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:26,600
My family came here originally

751
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,000
from Albuquerque, New Mexico in 2003.

752
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,460
My dad came to the city

753
01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:32,840
because he heard about the great schools

754
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,400
of ABC Unified School District.

755
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,780
He could have went and closed her to his work in Long Beach.

756
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,440
He could have went to cities like Fullerton and all that.

757
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,200
But no, he chose to settle here.

758
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,480
My family has had an amazing life here up

759
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:45,520
until maybe a few years ago.

760
01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:46,980
Things have gotten really bad.

761
01:24:46,980 --> 01:24:55,820
That we have homeless problems inside my neighborhood, like literally in my neighborhood, we have people living in their cars in my neighborhood in this council

762
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,760
Public safety nobody has really done anything about it. They keep coming to my neighborhood and doing little remedies

763
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:08,020
But we still have we still have on-house individuals living in cars in my neighborhood causing problems all the time

764
01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:12,020
Right before I came to this meeting just so you guys know there was a huge fire in my neighborhood

765
01:25:12,020 --> 01:25:16,600
well we're all sitting here in this room not to fire my neighborhood thank god for our fire department

766
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,760
they were able to put it down put it out but there's fires all over the city everybody brings up

767
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,880
robberies home break-ins unfortunately one of my neighbors passed away the other day i still don't know what happened

768
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,980
it was really sad i saw ambulances and everything outside their house but the city is falling apart

769
01:25:30,980 --> 01:25:38,760
and i haven't seen it this bad ever and all the years that i've lived in the city so um yeah that's all i

770
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:46,640
Thanks. Thank you and please don't forget to fill out thank you Curtis for like how many minutes do we have left?

771
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,000
Thank you may or we have just under five minutes left. Okay won't entertain one more speaker. Thank you

772
01:25:54,300 --> 01:25:55,860
So I'm again

773
01:25:55,860 --> 01:25:59,100
I'm shocked at what I'm what I'm hearing

774
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,220
You've interrupted multiple times

775
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:08,740
You've left when people have brought up issues that you've created on your own you had the opportunity to

776
01:26:08,740 --> 01:26:14,480
answer all of these questions for these people and you refuse to do so and you will

777
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:19,800
abuse your power and then you're attorney discriminates against me and you know you did

778
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:26,220
because I'm scary I look scary how many people have heard that in their life so all of

779
01:26:26,220 --> 01:26:30,780
this has happened to me because I look scary this is like dealing with a I don't

780
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:35,160
need to be offensive here I'm going to say something this is mouset down right here this

781
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,720
the dumbest thing I've ever seen. The communists, crap that's coming out of this, you're

782
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:48,020
discriminating against me. You just told me to watch my back on video. What are you doing?

783
01:26:49,820 --> 01:26:55,060
You'd called me racist and then the man shows up at my house and you're worried about me now because

784
01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:57,740
you're dealing with the issue? Grow parable.

785
01:26:59,820 --> 01:27:04,180
This man won't help me. No one helps me. You've all

786
01:27:04,180 --> 01:27:10,860
used me, you won't even look at me. Go ahead, Linda, look at me. Look, Linda. Look at what

787
01:27:10,860 --> 01:27:18,520
you've done. You want to grab it some more? How's it feel? I'm hope I hope you're proud of what

788
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:19,220
you've done.

789
01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:27,880
You, you're disgrace. You sat here and told me that you didn't do exactly what you did

790
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,680
with the SB9.

791
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,460
You covered for him, for his tax theft,

792
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:39,360
for using the city credit card, for the lies that you've done.

793
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,300
How those Nike's bro was really interesting to see

794
01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:45,820
Tran was a Tran that came up and gave me the high five,

795
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,680
the mayoral thing, and he left five minutes after.

796
01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:51,280
That's how little you mean to him.

797
01:27:52,660 --> 01:27:54,120
Why don't you grow a pair of bro?

798
01:27:54,860 --> 01:27:57,060
Do you understand, I've dealt with this man,

799
01:27:57,060 --> 01:28:02,840
And these police officers harassing me when I had death threats you just so you know a year ago

800
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:10,540
You guys tried to take me down for someone death threatening me. He knows it. It's on video demand all I did was ask for help

801
01:28:10,540 --> 01:28:15,340
You guys have never done anything to help me. I have people at my house threatening me

802
01:28:15,340 --> 01:28:22,640
I've been harassed and stalked all the time. You're worried about a guy posting a picture. They're in front of my frickin house, bro

803
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,020
They're following me

804
01:28:25,020 --> 01:28:26,840
Now say down all of you

805
01:28:27,060 --> 01:28:31,760
all of you this is ridiculous you all need to go you to especially

806
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:38,540
at this time I will go ahead

807
01:28:38,540 --> 01:28:47,970
and close the public comment period and next we have item seven consent calendar do we have

808
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:59,310
Madam Mayor. Yes. Can we please remove item 7F? All right. We're separate report.

809
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:07,850
Second. Do you have, would you like to make a motion then? Mark, do you want to make a motion?

810
01:29:09,930 --> 01:29:18,270
I move to remove item 7F. I make a motion to approve the consent calendar except for item 7F.

811
01:29:18,270 --> 01:29:21,490
there you go second let's go ahead and vote

812
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:31,970
and pass on a vote of four to zero thank you

813
01:29:33,310 --> 01:29:38,390
Robert we have a report please on seven f yes thank you item seven f may remember

814
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:42,370
mayor members of the city council follows up on a previous action taken by the council as

815
01:29:42,370 --> 01:29:47,190
it relates to a design for the C4 well I'm going to ask Chris Cuebert acting director of public

816
01:29:47,190 --> 01:29:53,330
works to provide a brief overview and be happy to answer any questions thank you city manager Lopez

817
01:29:53,330 --> 01:29:58,350
This Honorable Mayor, members of the City Council, the Gender Item 7A, is a recommendation

818
01:29:58,350 --> 01:29:59,970
to approve a change order to the seatbook.

819
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:18,240
For a well redesigned and water treatment project, a council may recall the existing C4 well is more than 50 years old and has experienced a significant decline in production capacity from the approximate 3500 gallons per minute when originally constructed to approximately 1500 gallons per minute today.

820
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:26,520
On February 13, 2025, the city council awarded a contract to Hazen and Sawyer to redesign the C4 well and treatment system.

821
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:36,780
Since that time, he has been designing the new treatment system in October 2025, the C4 well experienced a critical structural failure.

822
01:30:37,780 --> 01:30:43,820
Although emergency repairs return the well to service, the repairs did not address the long-term deterioration of the well.

823
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:55,660
After further evaluation, staff and our consultant determined that constructing a replacement well adjacent to the existing well as the most cost effective and reliable long-term solution.

824
01:30:55,660 --> 01:31:08,920
A new well will restore production capacity and prove system reliability and allow the city to continue maximizing the use of lower cost groundwater rather than relying on expensive imported water.

825
01:31:10,330 --> 01:31:16,470
The requested change order of 153,000, $80,000, expands hazelnuts, so your scope of work

826
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:20,430
to include the engineering design and permitting for the replacement well.

827
01:31:21,010 --> 01:31:26,850
The revised design contract will total $1.5 million, and sufficient funding is available

828
01:31:26,850 --> 01:31:29,610
within the project's adopted $5 million budget.

829
01:31:30,530 --> 01:31:34,550
Therefore staff recommends the city council approve the change order and authorize the city

830
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:39,430
manager or design need to execute project-related change orders in accordance with the city's

831
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:43,270
purchasing and contracting policy. I'm available for any questions.

832
01:31:44,210 --> 01:31:45,750
Thank you, Chris, for the report.

833
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:47,310
Council, do we have any questions?

834
01:31:50,180 --> 01:31:50,600
Yes, Mayor.

835
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:51,240
Go ahead.

836
01:31:51,460 --> 01:31:52,960
Thanks for the report, Chris Kubert.

837
01:31:55,820 --> 01:32:02,000
So what is the current operating status of the C4 well?

838
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:10,900
Thank you, Mr. York.

839
01:32:11,580 --> 01:32:14,620
And what percentage capacity is it at?

840
01:32:15,340 --> 01:32:22,840
We are pumping it roughly 1,500 to 1,700 gallons a minute right now, which is much lower than the original design of 3,500 gallons per minute.

841
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,340
That's less than half.

842
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:25,380
Less than half.

843
01:32:27,700 --> 01:32:37,220
So have we now that it's back up and running in June, and it was offline since October.

844
01:32:38,580 --> 01:32:46,460
Now that it's up and running in June, have we stopped paying for the higher three or four

845
01:32:46,460 --> 01:32:48,060
times cost imported water?

846
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:50,580
No, we're still importing water.

847
01:32:51,860 --> 01:33:05,380
So at this current 1500 to 1700 gallons per minute, even with it now up and running at 1500

848
01:33:05,380 --> 01:33:14,360
to the 1700 gallons per minute production, we are going to have to still continue to use

849
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:21,020
imported water. Yes, that's correct. This is high season of for water usage in the summer time,

850
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:25,980
people are home, the weather's hot, people are irrigating their lawns, so we have much higher usage

851
01:33:25,980 --> 01:33:33,060
during now versus in the fall and winter. And the imported water is about three to four times

852
01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:40,560
the cost of groundwater. Yes, I believe the July 1 rate is approximately $1,700 an acre foot

853
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:47,200
versus the groundwater is close to $5 or $600. I don't know the number of the top of my head.

854
01:33:50,290 --> 01:34:01,740
So, if we approve this contract that results in an additional 153,000, $80, because of pivoting from

855
01:34:04,500 --> 01:34:06,820
pivoting from repair to replacement,

856
01:34:09,540 --> 01:34:13,960
when will the design phase be done, and when can we

857
01:34:14,660 --> 01:34:18,080
look forward to having a newly built replacement?

858
01:34:19,180 --> 01:34:23,780
We expect design to take a couple of months, hopefully, finish up by the end of the calendar

859
01:34:23,780 --> 01:34:29,820
year, at which time we'll put an RFP package out and put it on the street for bid, and begin the process

860
01:34:29,820 --> 01:34:39,260
to construct it. So maybe 28, end of 28, two years from construction to implementation.

861
01:34:39,740 --> 01:34:42,760
But again, it's a rough estimate right now.

862
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:52,840
When the well is complete, you're doing the best you can. Because this was a consent

863
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,000
calendar item. That's what you came into the meeting thinking. It was a consent calendar.

864
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:03,060
and I agreed with Mr. Stollings that this definitely needed to not be a consent calendar item.

865
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:09,780
We needed to be transparent with what is going on with significantly with our water and sewer infrastructure,

866
01:35:10,300 --> 01:35:15,380
especially when we only have three wells. Is that right? This is one of our three wells.

867
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:22,000
That is correct. Okay. So when this will based on your best estimates tonight,

868
01:35:22,820 --> 01:35:27,620
When the replacement was constructed, two and a half years from now, at the end of

869
01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:33,020
2028, we'll be able to stop paying for imported water at that time.

870
01:35:34,620 --> 01:35:38,880
That's the goal, but until the wells designed, we don't know how much we'll be able to get

871
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,460
out of, or the gallons per minute, we'll be able to pump out of the ground.

872
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:45,440
We have to have that designed to understand that first.

873
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,660
Okay, but we are looking at paying for input,

874
01:35:48,660 --> 01:35:52,460
imported water threat for the next two and a half years,

875
01:35:52,580 --> 01:35:53,260
or longer.

876
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:56,080
That could be the case, yes.

877
01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:58,620
Thank you.

878
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:02,600
So the sooner we approve this, the sooner we get to a replacement.

879
01:36:03,140 --> 01:36:04,420
Well, that is correct, sir.

880
01:36:04,420 --> 01:36:05,300
Thank you, Chris.

881
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:06,460
Thank you, Mayor.

882
01:36:07,180 --> 01:36:07,620
Thank you.

883
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:08,680
Do we have any other questions?

884
01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:10,420
Thank you.

885
01:36:14,090 --> 01:36:14,730
Thank you, Chris.

886
01:36:15,190 --> 01:36:16,350
Just a follow-up question.

887
01:36:16,350 --> 01:36:27,870
And once the design is approved and the C4 well begins to be worked on to replace, it will

888
01:36:27,870 --> 01:36:29,030
not be usable.

889
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:30,310
Is that correct?

890
01:36:30,770 --> 01:36:31,710
That is correct.

891
01:36:32,810 --> 01:36:33,910
And so what's the plan?

892
01:36:34,850 --> 01:36:40,730
You know, we have two other wells to make up for the loss of that, or we're just going

893
01:36:40,730 --> 01:36:48,450
be replacing 100% of what we would have otherwise pumped out of C4 through an imported water?

894
01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:53,130
Yes, that's correct, and that was budgeted and taken account for into the Prop-218 study.

895
01:36:55,970 --> 01:37:01,910
And you may have already stated it, but how long do you anticipate it would take for the

896
01:37:01,910 --> 01:37:05,690
C4 well to be replaced about how long would it be offline?

897
01:37:06,850 --> 01:37:08,330
Right now, estimates are two years.

898
01:37:12,990 --> 01:37:13,530
Thank you.

899
01:37:13,530 --> 01:37:22,330
Following up with that, so you said right now the seed for well is producing 1500 to 1700 gallons per minute.

900
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:29,970
Yes. So when it goes offline, we're going to have to make that up by buying that imported water, which is the equivalent of 15.

901
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:37,340
100 to 17 and 100 gallons per minute. We're going to have to buy those while C4 is offline.

902
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:47,820
Yes. Imported water. Correct. Thank you. Any other questions? I have a question. Chris, the imported water

903
01:37:47,820 --> 01:37:52,620
is that absorbed through the general fund or is that the consumer paying for the extra,

904
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,220
You know, the costs of the imported water.

905
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,960
That's through the water fund, so residents pay for their usage.

906
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,700
Okay. Robert, did you want to say something?

907
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,720
One thing I'll just note to clarify is that yes, all those charges are

908
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:14,300
paid out of the water fund, but to the extent they're still a shortfall from water revenues.

909
01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:17,340
Any gap is covered by the general fund currently.

910
01:38:17,740 --> 01:38:18,100
Okay.

911
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:25,340
So, we are still training our general fund and because of the import of water.

912
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:27,780
Well, we were projected.

913
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,240
Are you done?

914
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:37,300
The City Council was informed back in 2025 when we were going over the water and sewer

915
01:38:37,300 --> 01:38:45,740
and sewer infrastructure and we voted in October to proposition 2018 hearing in place.

916
01:38:45,740 --> 01:39:00,700
We were told that on the rates that the council, the staff recommended rates, rate schedule that the city council for the proposition to 18 hearing notice.

917
01:39:00,700 --> 01:39:17,500
Those rates would result in an additional 12 million dollars out of the general fund on top of the 33 million out of the general fund that had already been hemorrhaged.

918
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:28,860
So with this news that we found out that we have to pivot away from repairing, we cannot repair the seat for well we have to replace it.

919
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,620
And so we're changing course.

920
01:39:34,300 --> 01:39:37,100
We thought we would be able to get more life out of the sea for well.

921
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,380
We have to replace it instead of repair it.

922
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,320
And then for the two-year construction,

923
01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:43,560
we're going to have to pay for imported water,

924
01:39:44,180 --> 01:39:46,560
1500 to 1700 gallons per minute.

925
01:39:46,940 --> 01:39:48,320
We have to pay for imported water,

926
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:52,920
which is 3 to 4 times more expensive than groundwater.

927
01:39:53,980 --> 01:39:58,520
Are we still only going to spend 12 million dollars out of the general fund

928
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,260
over the next five years.

929
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,180
That's the projection that was included in the race study

930
01:40:07,180 --> 01:40:10,760
based on projected cost of projects and projected revenues.

931
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,520
We will know more precisely the impact of this project

932
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,020
when we got to bid.

933
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,540
Is it possible that the $12 million number is going to go lower?

934
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,480
Actuals will depend on revenues received

935
01:40:25,480 --> 01:40:27,420
and also the actual cost of projects.

936
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:28,660
But that was the best estimate.

937
01:40:28,660 --> 01:40:38,540
All of this was all of this C4 well replacement and just seeing of 1500 to 1700 gallons

938
01:40:39,460 --> 01:40:44,980
per minute of imported water for two years. All of that was factored into the 12 million dollars

939
01:40:44,980 --> 01:40:49,460
that we're going to be subsidizing water and sewer for out of the next five years.

940
01:40:49,780 --> 01:40:53,140
Yes, the well being offline for the period of construction was factored into that.

941
01:40:53,140 --> 01:40:56,100
Thank you. Thank you.

942
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,040
I have a comment.

943
01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:02,420
Is the question open up for public comments, Pam?

944
01:41:03,260 --> 01:41:05,220
Do we open up public comments on this item?

945
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:06,400
You are indeed.

946
01:41:06,740 --> 01:41:07,040
We did.

947
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:08,460
You had item six.

948
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:08,860
Correct.

949
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:10,520
Question.

950
01:41:11,180 --> 01:41:12,480
Yes. Thank you.

951
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:13,800
That's what I say.

952
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,160
Yes. Transparency is very important.

953
01:41:16,420 --> 01:41:20,580
And now that I think the residents do deserve to know

954
01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:37,660
Even for the design and redesign and water treatment thing, design, all this, we need to put out with the budgeting and I hope the city, the city manager can help to provide it with Chris to provide more detailed information.

955
01:41:37,660 --> 01:41:44,520
And so we need to know and residents wants to know as well, transparency is very important.

956
01:41:44,940 --> 01:41:49,020
So we are all understanding what's going on with this issues.

957
01:41:49,140 --> 01:41:54,860
This is very important and is all the residents' major concern is more than thank you.

958
01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:57,220
Thank you.

959
01:41:57,540 --> 01:42:01,260
If we have no other comments, questions, Mark, you'd have one.

960
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,280
I'll go ahead and entertain a motion.

961
01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:06,880
So we don't have to have a separate public comment for this?

962
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,380
No, it was already under public comment item six.

963
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:11,340
Okay. Thank you.

964
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:13,760
Is there a motion?

965
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,300
Motion to approve staff recommendation. Thank you.

966
01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:35,960
Thank you. Motion passes four to zero.

967
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:42,060
Thank you. The next item is public hearing item eight a city manager. Do we have a report on this item?

968
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,600
Yes. Thank you. Madam Mayor, members of the city council. The first public hearing item eight a

969
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,360
is a development proposal that comes to you at the recommendation of the planning commission.

970
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:55,880
This is an exciting development at Los Serbito Center for the former Sears Department Store

971
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:56,280
building.

972
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,480
An overview of this item will be given by a current planning manager, Amanda Acunia,

973
01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:06,180
and following a presentation she and members of the project team will be available to answer

974
01:43:06,180 --> 01:43:06,920
any questions.

975
01:43:11,580 --> 01:43:13,120
Thank you, City Manager Lopez.

976
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:16,540
In good evening, Honorable Mayor Johnson and members of the City Council.

977
01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:23,480
As mentioned, agenda item number 8A is a request by the applicant, exporting goods, incorporated

978
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:29,080
for the approval of precise plan 2026-6 to allow for the redevelopment of the former

979
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:34,140
Sears site within the Low Seretal Center, located at 100 Low Seretal's Mall.

980
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:40,220
This evening, I will be presenting the proposed project and recommendation by the Seretal's

981
01:43:40,220 --> 01:43:45,580
Planning Commission. The proposal under this item represents a significant reinvestment in the Low Seretal

982
01:43:45,580 --> 01:43:51,140
Center through the transformation of the former vacant department store into a new destination

983
01:43:51,140 --> 01:43:55,220
retail experience at the center. The project includes the

984
01:43:55,220 --> 01:43:59,420
construction of a new two-story, fixed house of sports store in

985
01:43:59,420 --> 01:44:04,760
innovative retail concept by exporting goods. The combined traditional

986
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,780
retail along with interactive experience for further details I'd like to

987
01:44:08,780 --> 01:44:12,240
direct your attention to the screen for presentation.

988
01:44:16,420 --> 01:44:17,860
The project site encompasses

989
01:44:17,860 --> 01:44:24,040
approximately 4.65 acres located at the northern end of low-soreado center. The

990
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:34,620
The image on the left here is an aerial view of the overall Low Sereto Center showing the location of the 4.65 acre project site, which consists of the former Sears buildings and surrounding site.

991
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:43,980
The Low Sereto Center is generally bounded by 183rd Street to the north, beyond which is a Plaza 183rd shopping center.

992
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:51,800
Interstate 6-5 of the San Gabriel River freeway to the west, South Street to the south, and Grily Road to the east.

993
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:58,380
The image on the right provides a closer aerial view of the project site in the area proposed for redevelopment.

994
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:16,920
Before you hear on the left is a view of the former sears building within the Low Street of Center, which was vacated in 2019, since that time the building has remained vacant with occasional temporary uses occupying portions of the space.

995
01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:22,220
On the right is a view of the current conditions of the project site looking south.

996
01:45:22,220 --> 01:45:28,760
Demolition permits for the former building were issued in March of 2026 and demolition is currently underway.

997
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:34,220
The site is currently fenced as crews demolished the former building in associated loading areas.

998
01:45:40,750 --> 01:45:45,250
As mentioned, the applicant is requesting approval, precise plan, 2026S6.

999
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:51,130
The project includes a construction of a new approximately 142,000 square foot

1000
01:45:51,130 --> 01:45:57,450
to story retail building that combines traditional sporting good sales with interactive customer experience.

1001
01:45:57,450 --> 01:46:03,010
In addition, retail to retail space, the facility will feature amenities, such as an indoor

1002
01:46:03,010 --> 01:46:08,710
climbing wall, golf simulators and equipment testing and demonstration areas, allowing customers

1003
01:46:08,710 --> 01:46:10,530
to try products before purchase.

1004
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:18,510
The project also includes a 18,500 square foot outdoor athletic field to support these activities.

1005
01:46:20,190 --> 01:46:24,890
The building has been designed with a contemporary architectural design and enhance materials

1006
01:46:24,890 --> 01:46:28,010
creating a distinctive new anchor for the Low Sereto Center.

1007
01:46:28,690 --> 01:46:31,350
Other site improvements include new landscaping

1008
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:34,830
and related site enhancements adjacent to the proposed new building.

1009
01:46:40,620 --> 01:46:43,420
Before you hear is the proposed site plan for the project.

1010
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,920
A shown, the project includes the retail building

1011
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,200
with the loading dock area generally located

1012
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,980
in the same location as the previous facility.

1013
01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:55,200
Immediately to the west of the building is the outdoor athletic field

1014
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,260
which will directly be accessible from the retail store.

1015
01:46:58,900 --> 01:47:03,440
The site has been designed with extensive landscaping throughout the

1016
01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:08,260
parameters of the building, which will soften the appearance of both the building and

1017
01:47:08,260 --> 01:47:09,880
the fence outdoor athletic field.

1018
01:47:10,820 --> 01:47:13,980
Along the eastern side of the building, you'll notice a dense landscape

1019
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:17,880
planter, which will provide a variety of trees, shrubs, and other

1020
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,880
plantings to enhance the streetscape within the center.

1021
01:47:21,820 --> 01:47:25,840
In addition, a Parkway style landscape planter will line the internal

1022
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:31,000
drybile helping to create an attractive pedestrian environment while entering the Low Street

1023
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:31,740
a Center.

1024
01:47:36,060 --> 01:47:39,960
The following signs include architectural renderings provided by the applicant

1025
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:44,820
to illustrate the proposed design of the new two-story six house of sports building

1026
01:47:44,820 --> 01:47:51,720
as well as the outdoor athletic field. This first rendering shows the building looking south-west.

1027
01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:57,740
prominently featured in this photo is the multi-story indoor rock climbing wall,

1028
01:47:57,740 --> 01:48:01,680
visible through a proposed and expansive storefront glazing.

1029
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:08,450
This rendering illustrates the

1030
01:48:08,450 --> 01:48:14,650
buildings frontage looking southeast. The main entrance is highlighted by a series of tower

1031
01:48:14,650 --> 01:48:19,310
elements, including a central architectural feature that serves as the visual focal point for the building.

1032
01:48:20,650 --> 01:48:26,370
The building incorporates a variety of enhanced materials and materials samples provided by the

1033
01:48:26,370 --> 01:48:32,170
applicant are available at the dies for the council's review. These materials include decorative

1034
01:48:32,170 --> 01:48:35,570
of brick veneer, expansive storefront glazing,

1035
01:48:36,010 --> 01:48:38,970
aluminum-thated cladding or ECM panels,

1036
01:48:39,790 --> 01:48:42,390
as well as colors that represent the

1037
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:45,490
Dix Sporting Good Signatured Hartford Green accents.

1038
01:48:50,690 --> 01:48:52,910
This rendering depicts the proposed east side

1039
01:48:52,910 --> 01:48:54,630
of the building, as mentioned,

1040
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:56,990
the project incorporates extensive landscaping

1041
01:48:56,990 --> 01:48:59,690
along the building's perimeter as shown here.

1042
01:49:00,050 --> 01:49:01,530
Consisting with our contextual treatment

1043
01:49:01,530 --> 01:49:03,030
on all building's elevations,

1044
01:49:03,150 --> 01:49:05,970
the east elevation incorporates decorative brick veneer

1045
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:11,130
with a change in pattern to break up the building mass visually, as well as portions of the

1046
01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:17,010
previously shown expansive storefront glazing. The project exceeds the city's architectural design

1047
01:49:17,010 --> 01:49:22,090
standards by incorporating enhancement materials well over the 40% of each building elevation.

1048
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:32,020
Lastly, this rendering shows the west side of the proposed building together with the outdoor

1049
01:49:32,020 --> 01:49:36,860
athletic field. The west elevation continues the projects foresighted architectural treatment

1050
01:49:36,860 --> 01:49:39,160
through the consistent use of the enhanced materials.

1051
01:49:44,740 --> 01:49:48,580
The project site is located in Area Development Plan 21 or ADP 21.

1052
01:49:49,260 --> 01:49:54,880
Earlier this year, the city council adopted ADP 21 for Housing Elements Site B at the

1053
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:59,660
Low Sereto Center, allowing future residential development while retaining commercial uses.

1054
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:06,760
The proposed Dix has to support its project occupies approximately 4.65 acres and does not

1055
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:13,920
reduce or preclude the site's plan capacity for up 2,375 future housing units as identified

1056
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,480
within the city's housing element.

1057
01:50:21,420 --> 01:50:23,720
This project has been evaluated in accordance with the

1058
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,660
California Environmental Quality Actors Sequoia and the city's environmental impact report

1059
01:50:27,660 --> 01:50:33,980
guidelines as well as determined to be categorically exempt to under SQL guidelines section 15332

1060
01:50:33,980 --> 01:50:39,460
the class 32 in field development exemption. To support this, the city's environmental consultant

1061
01:50:39,460 --> 01:50:45,320
due to prepared a class 32 technical memorandum on date of February 6th of this year evaluating

1062
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:50,120
the project. The analysis concluded that the project satisfied all the criteria for the

1063
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:55,960
exemption and as well as the exceptions to the categorical exemption. The full analysis of supporting

1064
01:50:55,960 --> 01:51:01,440
findings were included in exhibit 25 and 26 of the agenda report tonight.

1065
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:07,520
Prior to this evening's meetings now received written public letter regarding the project's

1066
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:13,660
analysis. The letter raised concerned regarding the project's environmental review. Staff,

1067
01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:17,740
along with the city attorney's office review, the common and determined that the issues raised,

1068
01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:21,660
had already been analyzed and addressed within the technical memorandum prepared by the

1069
01:51:21,660 --> 01:51:27,020
environmental consultant, along with staff. The city also received a letter from the applicant's

1070
01:51:27,020 --> 01:51:32,540
traffic consultant, providing additional information regarding the project's traffic and vehicle

1071
01:51:32,540 --> 01:51:37,500
miles travel analysis in response to the concerns raised with the letter. All we're in

1072
01:51:37,500 --> 01:51:44,680
and supporting materials have been provided to the City Council and made available to the public as part of tonight's evening's public hearing.

1073
01:51:45,220 --> 01:51:51,800
SEPA's carefully reviewed all of submitted material and continued to conclude that the project qualifies for the Class 32 exemption.

1074
01:51:57,910 --> 01:52:07,670
The planning commission considered the project on July 1st of this year and recommended that the City Council approved precise plan 2026-6 for the redevelopment of the former SIR site.

1075
01:52:07,670 --> 01:52:11,950
Public hearing notices for tonight's public hearing were posted published in mail

1076
01:52:11,950 --> 01:52:15,690
in accordance with this read as municipal code and all agenda materials

1077
01:52:15,690 --> 01:52:17,730
were made available on the city's website.

1078
01:52:22,830 --> 01:52:23,710
At this time it is the

1079
01:52:23,710 --> 01:52:28,010
recommended that the city council review and discuss the information provided

1080
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:29,850
conduct the public hearing and adopt.

1081
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,340
The resolution of proving precise plan 2026-6 for this Dix House of Sports project.

1082
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,040
At this time, this concludes

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01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:44,940
SAS presentation. The community development staff, as well as the applicant and the city's

1084
01:52:44,940 --> 01:52:49,860
environmental consultant, are available to answer any questions at the council may have. Thank you.

1085
01:52:53,160 --> 01:53:02,360
Thank you. I'm in the for the report and to Sabrina and Kristin as well for the preparation of the report.

1086
01:53:02,740 --> 01:53:05,160
Do we have any questions from the city council?

1087
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,500
Yes. Okay, Mark, Mayor, pro town.

1088
01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:11,920
Thank you.

1089
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,140
Thank you, staff. Thank you, Amanda, for the presentation.

1090
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:20,130
I appreciate the visuals.

1091
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:28,020
Would like to highlight slide six.

1092
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,340
If we could go to that.

1093
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:36,520
I like the glass element.

1094
01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:42,400
I like how it's inviting to what I'm guessing is going to be a rock climbing wall.

1095
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:49,920
Is that correct? Okay. Thank you. Also on

1096
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:58,000
Slide 8, I appreciate the effort to

1097
01:53:58,940 --> 01:54:04,840
landscape what otherwise looks like a really long and large wall.

1098
01:54:08,220 --> 01:54:09,000
I appreciate

1099
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:14,680
that break set up because people are going to have to walk along that way to get

1100
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:23,060
entrance. And I guess there's no side entrance. Is there's only one way in? Is that correct?

1101
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:31,640
There are exterior entrance. Correct. There's one on the north and it is also interconnected with

1102
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:39,000
the rest of the the the mall. On the south. That would be great. But for people who

1103
01:54:40,060 --> 01:54:50,740
park, just east of there, they would have to walk along that pathway, which is nicely

1104
01:54:50,740 --> 01:54:58,570
landscape to enter from the front, which we already saw in slide six,

1105
01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:03,340
and then slide

1106
01:55:03,340 --> 01:55:04,180
nine,

1107
01:55:07,190 --> 01:55:10,710
that's gorgeous. Let's see that.

1108
01:55:14,300 --> 01:55:16,880
What would you call that? Play area, or is that

1109
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:26,920
demonstration area or where people could test out gear equipment is that that is correct that area yes

1110
01:55:30,380 --> 01:55:31,360
that's wonderful

1111
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,640
could you go back to slide

1112
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:36,360
seven

1113
01:55:39,940 --> 01:55:44,680
so I just have a concern on the from the center all the way to the right

1114
01:55:47,530 --> 01:55:50,130
for me it looks like a penitentiary

1115
01:55:52,370 --> 01:55:55,110
It looks like a prison.

1116
01:55:57,010 --> 01:55:57,830
I'm just being honest.

1117
01:55:58,110 --> 01:56:01,070
That's the first thing that popped out of me when I saw that.

1118
01:56:01,350 --> 01:56:06,830
And I'm just curious if there's a reason why we need to have such a high.

1119
01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:09,550
It would look like a chain link fence.

1120
01:56:11,050 --> 01:56:21,750
Is there any interest to have some vines that would grow along that to make it look a little bit more.

1121
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:30,230
or a little less industrial looking is just, you know, from my view of it.

1122
01:56:31,090 --> 01:56:37,590
And, you know, I don't mean to disrespect the person who designed this, but maybe if they're present, maybe they could talk about what the thought was.

1123
01:56:37,770 --> 01:56:46,690
Why we need not just one section, but two sections in then a third section that really brings it, I don't even know how high that is.

1124
01:56:46,690 --> 01:56:53,690
I'm guessing 10, 20, 30, 40 feet high, and I don't know how long that is.

1125
01:56:54,770 --> 01:57:01,910
I don't know, I'm guessing at least the width of a football, not the length of a football

1126
01:57:01,910 --> 01:57:08,570
field, but maybe the width of a football field, if it contains inside would looks like a half

1127
01:57:08,570 --> 01:57:14,430
of a football field, maybe I'm just completely off, but that seems like a very long, very

1128
01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:23,190
tall would look like a chaining fence that gives the appearance that we want to keep something

1129
01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:25,310
out of there.

1130
01:57:25,610 --> 01:57:30,550
You know the kind of sense of message like hey you know don't try and climb in here you know

1131
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:38,530
to anyone who might want to climb into this nice play area is just completely opposite message

1132
01:57:38,530 --> 01:57:44,390
from what you saw on on the eastern side glass really inviting is a beautiful

1133
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:51,010
architectural element. I'm wondering, because I didn't watch the planning commission, I mean,

1134
01:57:51,110 --> 01:57:55,870
if any of these issues were brought up and if they weren't, I mean, they were, I'd

1135
01:57:55,870 --> 01:58:01,950
love to hear what some of the feedback was from that discussion.

1136
01:58:04,010 --> 01:58:05,350
And if it wasn't brought up,

1137
01:58:05,470 --> 01:58:13,070
if staff could address the thought behind that element. Thank you.

1138
01:58:13,070 --> 01:58:14,770
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

1139
01:58:15,590 --> 01:58:21,450
In relation to the design of the the fencing around the outdoor athletic field.

1140
01:58:21,870 --> 01:58:27,570
I'll leave for the applicant and their design team who is present tonight to

1141
01:58:27,570 --> 01:58:30,930
to comment on that. I will address your other questions though.

1142
01:58:31,530 --> 01:58:39,070
Well, it did not come up in the planning commission meeting regarding the height or the width of the outdoor field.

1143
01:58:39,070 --> 01:58:43,930
I'd be happy to answer those questions within the presentation packet.

1144
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:57,270
It seems the plans identify that the outdoor field is approximately 115 feet in width and 150 feet in depth.

1145
01:58:57,790 --> 01:59:03,310
And in terms of the height of the fencing is approximately 25 to 30 feet in height.

1146
01:59:03,310 --> 01:59:06,810
who cite shorter than the bill, the proposed building.

1147
01:59:07,890 --> 01:59:08,950
But that's the proposed height.

1148
01:59:09,490 --> 01:59:12,470
So shorter than, again, yeah, the JSON building

1149
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:16,790
retail building in relation to the surrounding area

1150
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:21,570
to the fence, there is a, I don't have the width.

1151
01:59:21,770 --> 01:59:26,010
But there is landscaping proposed along the southern

1152
01:59:27,010 --> 01:59:31,190
and western side of that to balance some of,

1153
01:59:31,190 --> 01:59:33,310
to solve in some of the defense.

1154
01:59:33,970 --> 01:59:37,470
So landscaping, other than the very low shrubbery

1155
01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:41,010
that we see here, would type of landscaping

1156
01:59:41,010 --> 01:59:45,990
or are we talking about to break up that big fence?

1157
01:59:50,770 --> 01:59:52,450
Yeah, and if the applicant is here,

1158
01:59:52,550 --> 01:59:54,230
if they could address some of these issues,

1159
01:59:54,890 --> 01:59:55,490
these concerns.

1160
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:59,970
I'd like to invite someone from the...

1161
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,400
Seeing, if they can speak to questions that the mayor's pro-tem has, thank you.

1162
02:00:07,810 --> 02:00:08,150
Good evening.

1163
02:00:08,770 --> 02:00:14,150
The Vice President of the real estate development for tick sporting goods, 345, court street,

1164
02:00:14,330 --> 02:00:20,130
Coriapolis, Pennsylvania. This is not in common. We get questions about the fence quite

1165
02:00:20,130 --> 02:00:26,330
regularly. It does need to be relatively high, because there are activities on the field that

1166
02:00:26,330 --> 02:00:33,890
soccer baseball that we need to keep projectiles in, right? So there's a containment aspect to it.

1167
02:00:34,050 --> 02:00:37,090
I think some of what you're seeing in this is a little bit of perspective of the image,

1168
02:00:37,490 --> 02:00:43,210
because the building is about 250 feet wide. The fence is 121. So I think in this image,

1169
02:00:43,470 --> 02:00:47,470
it's taking up more than half of the image and it seems overpowering at this angle.

1170
02:00:48,510 --> 02:00:55,910
But it is 121 by 153 feet, which is much smaller in both height and scale than the building next to it.

1171
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:58,630
So I think in reality, it looks very different.

1172
02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:07,890
Part of the impact of the field is that it extends the facade

1173
02:01:07,890 --> 02:01:11,770
and creates this impressive overall viewpoint

1174
02:01:11,770 --> 02:01:12,970
when you arrive at the store.

1175
02:01:13,770 --> 02:01:16,070
And our design teams believe that when

1176
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:19,150
that's activated and people are out on the field,

1177
02:01:19,250 --> 02:01:20,510
it's going to be something interesting.

1178
02:01:20,650 --> 02:01:21,530
People are going to be curious.

1179
02:01:21,570 --> 02:01:22,590
People are going to be looking in.

1180
02:01:22,750 --> 02:01:25,530
So we purposely don't put Arbavita and Tall trees

1181
02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:29,610
around it because we don't want to block it out and hide it from the public.

1182
02:01:30,490 --> 02:01:32,250
We use the term retail theater.

1183
02:01:33,370 --> 02:01:38,370
We like the idea of people being intrigued and interested in what's happening out there,

1184
02:01:39,310 --> 02:01:41,150
because the uses of the field are pretty broad.

1185
02:01:41,670 --> 02:01:42,910
Lots of times it's open play.

1186
02:01:43,010 --> 02:01:47,370
That's probably the most common, you know, just on schedule time where you can go out and

1187
02:01:47,370 --> 02:01:50,290
try to pair sneakers, kick a soccer ball, let your kids run around.

1188
02:01:50,730 --> 02:01:55,510
But we also program it for events that we want the field to be a blank canvas for

1189
02:01:55,510 --> 02:02:01,290
our store teams to engage the community. So we'll do clinics, we'll do community events, we might

1190
02:02:02,030 --> 02:02:06,830
work with a local vendor to do a fitness boot camp. You can also rent the field for birthday

1191
02:02:06,830 --> 02:02:12,490
parties. This is a space that we want to create a real feeling of an amenity for the community.

1192
02:02:12,770 --> 02:02:15,910
So it's going to be very active and there's going to be a lot going on out there. So we don't want

1193
02:02:15,910 --> 02:02:21,430
to hide it. So it's a little bit of a different viewpoint. We do hear it a lot. I will say in person

1194
02:02:21,430 --> 02:02:28,430
And when you see one of these stores, I think it's a very impactful visual arrival moment

1195
02:02:28,430 --> 02:02:30,610
when you see the store all that up with the field.

1196
02:02:30,730 --> 02:02:37,750
And it will be lit at night, you don't see the lights in this debut, but it will be fully lit.

1197
02:02:37,950 --> 02:02:41,890
So it kind of lends itself to that retail theater concept.

1198
02:02:43,110 --> 02:02:43,350
What?

1199
02:02:43,570 --> 02:02:44,010
Wonderful.

1200
02:02:44,670 --> 02:02:46,470
Just to hear all of that.

1201
02:02:46,930 --> 02:03:14,890
And I could envision it if there's a lot of activity there that that, you know, people aren't going to focus on the fence, we're going to be looking through and they could see what did you call it retail theater, retail theater, it's a kind of theater, I get time we're going to get that, it'll draw people in, that's what I had heard conceptually as we're, you know, hearing word around town that this was going to come before us.

1202
02:03:14,890 --> 02:03:22,470
Um, so that's exciting to see. Of course, right up on the field, you know, the, uh,

1203
02:03:22,570 --> 02:03:28,250
uh, where was that slide nine that's gorgeous. So I imagine right when you're up in it,

1204
02:03:28,250 --> 02:03:35,110
uh, my concern was, you know, as, you know, people are parking and they see this, you know,

1205
02:03:35,230 --> 02:03:40,990
because they're not going to be able to see what's going on until they're like right within, um,

1206
02:03:40,990 --> 02:03:47,590
you know, a few feet or yards, what's happening on the field. But what they'll see,

1207
02:03:47,870 --> 02:03:54,190
oftentimes, you know, they're pulling in to the parking lot, they'll see the fence.

1208
02:03:57,990 --> 02:04:03,010
So it'd be lit up at nighttime, I think that's going to be helpful in inviting.

1209
02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:09,730
I am going to be concerned about, you know, how bright it's going to be, especially at

1210
02:04:09,730 --> 02:04:18,590
time, and that much lit up because of the freeway, right? The lights that we use on all of our

1211
02:04:18,590 --> 02:04:22,070
fields are designed as full cut-off lights, which means they're designed to shine down

1212
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:27,370
onto the field of play, not up into the night sky, and they don't spill out into the parking

1213
02:04:27,370 --> 02:04:33,150
lot. There's specifically designed to contain that sort of control lighting. So you will

1214
02:04:33,150 --> 02:04:38,230
be able to see it, it will be a illuminated object. There's no stopping the visibility of it,

1215
02:04:38,230 --> 02:04:44,050
But it doesn't shine outward, such that it would be a distraction to cars or other structures

1216
02:04:44,050 --> 02:04:45,910
building businesses around it.

1217
02:04:47,210 --> 02:04:53,430
And I don't know if it's in the, it wasn't mentioned in the presentation, but is there going

1218
02:04:53,430 --> 02:04:58,010
to be art and public places component to this development?

1219
02:04:59,050 --> 02:05:05,590
And if so, perhaps somehow it could be incorporated into that area.

1220
02:05:05,590 --> 02:05:14,670
So, it helps draw people in, also, and break up the fence,

1221
02:05:17,210 --> 02:05:19,090
something different than landscaping

1222
02:05:19,090 --> 02:05:25,750
that, as you were saying, would block the visibility of what's going on inside.

1223
02:05:26,810 --> 02:05:33,630
Is there a city manager or a staff that stands for an art and public places component to this?

1224
02:05:33,630 --> 02:05:33,890
Yes.

1225
02:05:33,890 --> 02:05:38,310
Thank you, Mayor Patent, and the applicant is aware of the requirement to comply with the

1226
02:05:38,310 --> 02:05:39,470
art and public access program.

1227
02:05:39,910 --> 02:05:47,310
At this point, their tentative plan is to simply pay the fee in lieu of donating or

1228
02:05:47,310 --> 02:05:49,770
providing artwork on site, so that's their current plan.

1229
02:05:51,090 --> 02:05:55,870
Okay, and then, of course, we know as a city we could use anywhere in the city, but

1230
02:05:55,870 --> 02:06:07,870
or any staff discussion about how we might incorporate it into this site, since I guess the

1231
02:06:07,870 --> 02:06:14,590
applicant is in particular interested in conceiving of it themselves, but giving it back

1232
02:06:14,590 --> 02:06:21,850
to the city, has there been initial thoughts about how those monies could be applying to this

1233
02:06:21,850 --> 02:06:22,270
project?

1234
02:06:22,270 --> 02:06:29,150
We'd be happy to talk again to them all owner to see if there's any interest in having the artwork applied to the location.

1235
02:06:30,330 --> 02:06:32,250
Okay, yeah, I'd be interested in that.

1236
02:06:33,550 --> 02:06:44,270
But of course working with the applicant so that we could further enhance what you're already doing to create retail theater.

1237
02:06:45,310 --> 02:06:46,510
I like that idea.

1238
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:52,250
We've had a great experience with staff throughout this months-long process to collaborate and coordinate on this.

1239
02:06:52,250 --> 02:06:53,930
design, this is evolved over time.

1240
02:06:54,270 --> 02:06:58,690
This is actually one of the most, I would say, highly elevated stores that we are going

1241
02:06:58,690 --> 02:06:59,810
to do in the entire fleet.

1242
02:07:00,290 --> 02:07:06,230
We have 725 of our stores, our dick stores across the country, right now there are 39 open

1243
02:07:06,230 --> 02:07:10,390
and we're aiming for about 100 to be open in the calendar year of 2029.

1244
02:07:11,530 --> 02:07:14,270
There are only two others that are in development that will look like this.

1245
02:07:14,610 --> 02:07:18,850
This is the most, this is the flagship of flagships, if you will.

1246
02:07:18,850 --> 02:07:26,610
So, we will absolutely continue to coordinate with staff and have the discussion about the artwork.

1247
02:07:27,070 --> 02:07:29,970
We fully have performed it and I budget it for.

1248
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,520
So we understand the requirement and happy to further discussion.

1249
02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:35,900
Where is that other flagship located?

1250
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:43,200
Neither are open yet. One will be outside of the Boston metro and another one in Oregon,

1251
02:07:44,540 --> 02:07:47,080
where in the shadow of the Nike Headquarters.

1252
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:49,760
And ours is going to be bigger and better, right?

1253
02:07:50,100 --> 02:07:51,800
A year's is going to be the biggest of this.

1254
02:07:52,340 --> 02:07:55,060
Okay. Okay. Wonderful. Tell me your name again.

1255
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,820
Brian Basick. Brian, have you spelled your last name?

1256
02:07:58,820 --> 02:08:04,060
B-A-C-I-K, B-A-C-I-K, Brian, thank you.

1257
02:08:04,300 --> 02:08:06,200
You have addressed all of my concerns.

1258
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:07,220
Thank you.

1259
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:08,120
I appreciate it.

1260
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:08,960
Thank you.

1261
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:10,380
Mayor, can I have a question?

1262
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:12,640
Thank you.

1263
02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:16,800
And thank you so much to have the flagship of the flagships.

1264
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:18,560
You know, we're so happy to hear that.

1265
02:08:18,580 --> 02:08:23,120
And hopefully, this would definitely bring you a lot of sales revenue.

1266
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:27,720
First, some retailers would be waiting for this kind of project to show up.

1267
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:35,540
Thank you for participating this. I only have a concern because I've been seeing a lot of those kind of retails

1268
02:08:35,540 --> 02:08:42,460
And maybe you already have been playing or whatever, but I I find out there's a lot of kind of like no strong

1269
02:08:42,460 --> 02:08:51,100
You know, they you have the retrace center. You have a sit down and relax thing area or maybe you can have a

1270
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:56,880
Coffee shop something like that. I mean that would motivate more people when they're shopping

1271
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:00,200
and because of the stories so big, you know what I mean?

1272
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:03,000
So for them to have a place to sit down,

1273
02:09:03,340 --> 02:09:05,720
you can also do more sales and, you know,

1274
02:09:05,940 --> 02:09:09,540
this is just my thought because I've noticed a lot of CD

1275
02:09:09,540 --> 02:09:14,280
even out of the country, they kind of combine this kind of shopping retail

1276
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:20,660
with relaxation, with, you know, eating and family getting together.

1277
02:09:21,260 --> 02:09:26,420
So it's just my personal suggestion. I don't know if you put that into the thought.

1278
02:09:26,420 --> 02:09:32,840
because I know a strong doing sales a lot for their small copy shop when you go inside, and

1279
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:38,180
they're even their coffee, their restaurant is business is very good as well.

1280
02:09:38,180 --> 02:09:45,600
Yeah, thank you for the comment. As of right now we don't have food or cafe options in any of

1281
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:52,040
our stores from the legacy stores all the way to the new ones. It has been considered, but it's

1282
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:54,000
a little bit outside of our comfort zone.

1283
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,960
When you talk about, you know, a smoothie bar, a coffee bar,

1284
02:09:58,120 --> 02:09:59,860
bringing in fresh fruit, fresh food,

1285
02:10:00,220 --> 02:10:02,480
it just is a different labor model

1286
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:03,940
and it's a different core competency.

1287
02:10:04,860 --> 02:10:06,480
We're focusing our differentiation

1288
02:10:07,220 --> 02:10:10,940
on the experimental experiential, excuse me, components.

1289
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:14,040
We've got golf simulators on a golf pro

1290
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,560
in our golf department.

1291
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,640
It's like having a golf galaxy right in the store.

1292
02:10:17,720 --> 02:10:21,220
We've got the climbing wall, what you saw in those imagery,

1293
02:10:21,220 --> 02:10:25,260
in that imagery with this one will be a four-sided climbing wall with that glass framing around

1294
02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:30,800
the front, which is reserved for our, you know, most successful units, at least the ones

1295
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:35,560
that we forecast today. And of course, the field, not everyone has not every one of our houses

1296
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:39,700
of sport is able to accommodate a field, but we have the field and we have our indoor batting

1297
02:10:39,700 --> 02:10:45,800
cage. So we've got what we think is a really great lineup of differentiating components that

1298
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:50,160
make this more than just a retail location and we'll keep people coming back and keep people interested

1299
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:51,940
and what we have to offer here.

1300
02:10:53,060 --> 02:10:57,260
We do have the ability to rent out the field.

1301
02:10:57,440 --> 02:10:59,260
And the field, the field fence actually

1302
02:10:59,260 --> 02:11:04,420
has a gate in it where we can bring in food vendors

1303
02:11:04,420 --> 02:11:08,700
for events if that is something that the event calls for.

1304
02:11:09,060 --> 02:11:11,500
But no real plans right now, company

1305
02:11:11,500 --> 02:11:15,940
why to start to introduce a food component to any of our units.

1306
02:11:16,500 --> 02:11:17,360
I understand that.

1307
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:22,320
Thank you, you do what you, you what the best, you know, that's fine. I agree with that.

1308
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:28,120
But I also have a concern, when you say we can rent it out privately to the different parties.

1309
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:35,280
So when you do that, you rent it out, that means you're not allowing the other shopper,

1310
02:11:35,940 --> 02:11:39,160
or, you know, people to go inside when you rent it out separately.

1311
02:11:39,780 --> 02:11:44,500
Yeah, for that portion of time, if it's a birthday party or a corporate event,

1312
02:11:44,500 --> 02:11:57,120
The field can be separated into half, there's basically a line that we can draw and draw a curtain and you can have half the field reserve, you can reserve the whole field.

1313
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:02,000
So, yeah, if someone rents it out for that purpose, it would be their space for that a lot of period of time.

1314
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:09,260
If there is an event, you know, we'll be limited by how many people can be on the field per code, so they'll be registration.

1315
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:15,100
But we would have, you know, we want the field to be welcoming.

1316
02:12:15,460 --> 02:12:17,300
So we want the community to use it.

1317
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:22,300
So we're going to host a lot of events that are meant to bring people in and get as many people to the stores possible.

1318
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:29,420
But in those timeframes where we have available for private rental, then that would be their space for that period of time.

1319
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:30,000
Wonderful.

1320
02:12:30,420 --> 02:12:32,040
So what do you think?

1321
02:12:32,380 --> 02:12:35,700
What is your projection to this project going to be finished?

1322
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:36,780
What is your goal?

1323
02:12:36,780 --> 02:12:59,300
So right now the the project schedule has us opening in the spring of 2028, hopefully we will get control of the building pad at the end of this year and start construction before the end of 2026 and we'll open in the spring of 28 we are hyper focused on having California stores open and operating at least a couple of months before the 2028 Olympics.

1324
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:11,720
What we learned at the existing Sereto store around the World Cup, we did a pop-up store in the parking lot, and we had 1,500 people a day visiting just that little pop-up store.

1325
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:17,480
It catapulted the Sereto location of the number one store for World Cup merchandise in our entire fleet.

1326
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:29,060
So when we've got 142,000 square feet to play with of flexible space where we can bring in just next level Olympic displays and merchandise.

1327
02:13:29,060 --> 02:13:32,880
we really want to lean in and this is going to be this will be our biggest

1328
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:38,940
California store for the Olympics and it's going to be spectacular. So long

1329
02:13:38,940 --> 02:13:43,280
we did way of saying we're we're we're looking open in the spring of 28 probably in

1330
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:49,080
March. Wonderful. We're looking forward for that. Thank you very much for choosing

1331
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:54,700
three toast as one of your bows important and the most outstanding flash

1332
02:13:54,700 --> 02:14:00,620
ship store here. It looks like it's going to be a state of the art and nobody can compete with

1333
02:14:00,620 --> 02:14:06,400
our city and not to mention it would definitely draw more business into our law. Thank you very much.

1334
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:12,300
Thank you. Do we have any other questions? Yes, Mayor. Thank you, Brian.

1335
02:14:16,670 --> 02:14:22,310
No, Serritos is really lucky that we have had this year's long relationship with the

1336
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:30,030
sporting goods. And thank you for confirming that we are, uh, if not your, that were your top

1337
02:14:30,030 --> 02:14:37,990
story, if not one of your top stores, your, the dick sporting goods. Um, so, uh, one thing is,

1338
02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:44,010
I went, uh, I was at a conference and I ran into a colleague from Arizona and she said that,

1339
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:52,050
uh, Dix House of Sport, the one in Glendale, Arizona is awesome. Okay. So that's up and running, right?

1340
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:59,970
Correct. And she said it was awesome and, you know, Serritos is lucky that we're going to have a Dix house of sport.

1341
02:15:00,530 --> 02:15:09,850
So you said 39, there's 39 Dix House of Sport. Correct. So we're the only one being planned in California right now.

1342
02:15:10,130 --> 02:15:16,890
Not the only one being planned in California. We just haven't opened any in California yet. There are two California stores that will open in the spring of next year.

1343
02:15:17,410 --> 02:15:26,810
One in Sacramento, one in San Diego. Quite frankly, California is a focus of ours just generally because of the way that the company started in Bingham, to New York.

1344
02:15:26,810 --> 02:15:29,470
So, and then kind of grew in concentric circles.

1345
02:15:30,050 --> 02:15:33,770
So, the way we entered California was mostly through acquisition.

1346
02:15:34,630 --> 02:15:38,130
So, a lot of our stores aren't, like, the one in Serritos, we actually built.

1347
02:15:38,190 --> 02:15:40,910
But a lot of our stores in California, we acquired.

1348
02:15:41,310 --> 02:15:44,110
So, it wasn't the best representation of our brand.

1349
02:15:45,230 --> 02:15:48,050
So, this is the best representation of our brand.

1350
02:15:48,050 --> 02:15:49,530
And that's what we're trying to do in California.

1351
02:15:49,890 --> 02:15:53,830
It's just, you know, hard to do on a short time frame.

1352
02:15:53,830 --> 02:16:02,030
And you know, so we're we're hyper focused on getting a handful of them open houses of sport open by by Olympics 2028

1353
02:16:02,030 --> 02:16:08,030
But they'll they'll be dozens more in the state in California California but based on what you said

1354
02:16:09,950 --> 02:16:20,290
When Dicks house those sports cereals opens in the spring of 2028 we might be the third third Sacramento San Diego cereals

1355
02:16:20,290 --> 02:16:22,450
Yeah, we have others in Fresno

1356
02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:31,180
a couple more and I'd have to check your test in my portfolio knowledge here, but I

1357
02:16:31,180 --> 02:16:37,780
yeah, you will be in the first, let's say, 10 for sure. Probably closer to top five for first

1358
02:16:37,780 --> 02:16:43,800
five. Okay, well, I'm glad that we're moving forward with the plan of being open ahead of the Olympics.

1359
02:16:48,060 --> 02:17:00,240
And is Dix sporting goods serritos going to be open until open the whole time until Dix

1360
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:02,120
has to support serritos.

1361
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:02,840
Yes.

1362
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:03,580
Yes.

1363
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:05,980
We will not be dark in the market for a day.

1364
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:11,380
We will close one day and open the next and then complete our move out process over a period

1365
02:17:11,380 --> 02:17:12,120
of time afterwards.

1366
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:17,240
but we will have doors open in one location, continuously.

1367
02:17:17,300 --> 02:17:17,800
Continuously.

1368
02:17:20,400 --> 02:17:26,420
Do we have the Dix sporting goods and Dix House of Sport?

1369
02:17:28,500 --> 02:17:39,120
Have an idea of ballpark on what sort of fact, what sort

1370
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:51,500
growth in sales. There is between the exporting good in your upscale, new, a new brand, the

1371
02:17:51,500 --> 02:17:58,000
exhaust support. So typically what we, what we, when we look at a store in a market where

1372
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:05,460
we have an existing store, we can pretty routinely count on doubling the sales. Now, the most common

1373
02:18:05,460 --> 02:18:11,640
input print of a disk sporting good stores 50,000 feet on one level. So if if the existing

1374
02:18:11,640 --> 02:18:15,340
store were 50,000 feet on one level and we were going to this, I would tell you we might

1375
02:18:15,340 --> 02:18:21,640
even triple it. You have a larger store in the mall today. So doubling it would be pretty

1376
02:18:21,640 --> 02:18:26,000
remarkable. But we do expect a significant sales multiplier.

1377
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,200
Optimists optimistically double

1378
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:36,060
doubling sales doubling would be doubling would definitely be optimistic but I wouldn't say

1379
02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:39,440
out of the realm of possibility the other thing with California because we don't have

1380
02:18:40,380 --> 02:18:46,520
the organic developed stores where we you know we know how we can how well we can do

1381
02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:52,740
it's I think this guy's the limit I really do I mean I I think this this could be a very very high

1382
02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:58,160
performing store we don't disclose individual store unit forecast so I can't give you a number

1383
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:04,020
But I think, I mean, as evidenced by the investment that we're making and our contextual

1384
02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:07,240
significance of this and putting all the components in and making it, you know,

1385
02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:12,080
22,000 feet bigger than our prototype, I think the company is putting them, it's money

1386
02:19:12,080 --> 02:19:14,840
where it's mouth is, I think this one's going to be a home run.

1387
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:27,680
I'm happy to hear that you have a track record of significant growth, significant increase in sales.

1388
02:19:28,480 --> 02:19:33,720
between, in the same market, going from a Dick sport and good to a Dick's House of

1389
02:19:33,720 --> 02:19:33,920
Sport.

1390
02:19:33,940 --> 02:19:34,540
Oh, absolutely.

1391
02:19:34,860 --> 02:19:35,020
Okay.

1392
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:36,400
Thank you.

1393
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:37,960
Thank you, Mayor.

1394
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:39,260
Go

1395
02:19:42,270 --> 02:19:42,690
ahead.

1396
02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:42,950
Go ahead.

1397
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:43,550
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1398
02:19:43,670 --> 02:19:50,930
I just had a couple follow questions, and I think you stated it earlier, but of the 725

1399
02:19:50,930 --> 02:19:56,250
I have Dix Sporting Goods stores, where does this

1400
02:19:56,250 --> 02:20:00,970
middle store from rank in terms of generating sales?

1401
02:20:02,170 --> 02:20:05,690
The current, I honestly don't know off the top of my head.

1402
02:20:06,270 --> 02:20:07,910
I don't have that information with me.

1403
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:14,310
It is, I can say that part, a big part of our strategy

1404
02:20:14,310 --> 02:20:16,950
with House of Sport, is to find the locations

1405
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:19,430
where we already exist and do very well and move

1406
02:20:19,430 --> 02:20:21,370
as close to where that store is as possible.

1407
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:23,770
Because we already know the Serritos customers here,

1408
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:25,370
we know that store does very well,

1409
02:20:25,650 --> 02:20:27,770
and lucky for us that there's real estate

1410
02:20:27,770 --> 02:20:29,490
that can accommodate this size of a store

1411
02:20:29,490 --> 02:20:31,090
available basically across the hall.

1412
02:20:31,730 --> 02:20:34,230
But we don't want to go too far from where we already are.

1413
02:20:34,350 --> 02:20:35,630
That's really sort of the simplicity

1414
02:20:35,630 --> 02:20:36,890
of our real estate strategy.

1415
02:20:37,550 --> 02:20:39,750
Is move across the stream, move down the hall

1416
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:41,090
and get bigger and better.

1417
02:20:42,610 --> 02:20:45,310
With 725 stores, there's very little what we call white space,

1418
02:20:45,370 --> 02:20:46,570
where it's just a net new store

1419
02:20:46,570 --> 02:20:53,810
we're not closing one to relocate it. So by virtue of being a candidate for a store like this,

1420
02:20:54,510 --> 02:20:59,990
the Sereto store does very well. Okay. Now the reason I asked this is he's has already been

1421
02:21:01,410 --> 02:21:08,210
12 years, right? When I was first mayor, 2014, 2015 that was part of phase five expansion

1422
02:21:08,210 --> 02:21:16,030
of the Lost Real Center, and it had been years since we had expanded, and that was the

1423
02:21:16,030 --> 02:21:18,750
major part of that expansion.

1424
02:21:18,910 --> 02:21:28,750
That along with G.C.A. Factory and Harkin's theaters, which I believe has driven the success

1425
02:21:28,750 --> 02:21:31,610
of the Lost Real Center out of the Great Recession.

1426
02:21:31,610 --> 02:21:47,110
You know, we were conceiving of all of that in support of Mace Rich's efforts, because we believe that, you know, as the saying goes, if you build it, they'll come and they did.

1427
02:21:47,890 --> 02:21:54,890
So I am just kind of curious where we stand across your 725 stores.

1428
02:21:56,350 --> 02:22:03,890
And to hear that, we're going to remain open all the way until the day that you open up,

1429
02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:06,350
Dix helps the sport.

1430
02:22:07,730 --> 02:22:10,870
This next question that I have is probably more for staff,

1431
02:22:11,930 --> 02:22:24,490
but is there discussions already with masonry about what's going to potentially happen in the current Dix sporting goods site after they moved into

1432
02:22:24,490 --> 02:22:29,830
The newer expanded flagship of flagships, Dix houses.

1433
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:39,860
I can answer that. We are in preliminary discussions with Maystrich about potential plans, but there is nothing specific we can report this evening.

1434
02:22:42,810 --> 02:22:57,650
Okay, you're going to keep us waiting. Cool. That's all I have. Thank you. And Brian, thank you and Kudos to your entire team that helped present this to us. I'm very excited. Thank you for your time and your consideration tonight.

1435
02:22:57,650 --> 02:22:59,350
I have one more question.

1436
02:23:00,630 --> 02:23:01,110
Quick question.

1437
02:23:01,250 --> 02:23:06,250
It has a Dix House of Sport explored the possibility of creating co-branded merchandise,

1438
02:23:06,890 --> 02:23:11,270
featuring the Dix House of Sport logo, as well as the city of Serritos logo.

1439
02:23:12,030 --> 02:23:18,490
I think items such as t-shirts, hats, mugs, water bottles could help promote both the store and the city,

1440
02:23:18,590 --> 02:23:26,230
especially as we look ahead to the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games as a sports and retail destination.

1441
02:23:26,750 --> 02:23:30,310
I don't believe that discussion has been raised up to this point.

1442
02:23:30,910 --> 02:23:34,370
I'm not quite certain that that's we've ever done anything like that at our other locations.

1443
02:23:35,050 --> 02:23:37,030
But we want to be partners with the city.

1444
02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:40,430
So we're willing to have the conversation.

1445
02:23:40,510 --> 02:23:42,290
Yeah, I'd like to have the conversation as well.

1446
02:23:42,550 --> 02:23:45,110
And staff can follow up with them on that.

1447
02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:46,390
We'd be happy to talk to them about that.

1448
02:23:46,450 --> 02:23:47,470
Thank you.

1449
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:49,890
All right, I'll go ahead and open up for public comments.

1450
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:52,990
Are there any public comments on this item?

1451
02:23:54,330 --> 02:23:58,390
Cindy, do we have any public comments, call in speakers?

1452
02:23:59,330 --> 02:23:59,750
Thank you, Mayor.

1453
02:23:59,890 --> 02:24:02,410
We do have one speaker raising their hand.

1454
02:24:02,990 --> 02:24:07,270
Speaker, Haley, you know, please unmute your microphone and begin your comments.

1455
02:24:11,180 --> 02:24:11,540
Good evening.

1456
02:24:12,420 --> 02:24:13,940
My name is Haley, you know.

1457
02:24:14,300 --> 02:24:16,940
I am a law clerk from Loser, Jerry L.P.

1458
02:24:17,160 --> 02:24:21,140
Here on behalf of the supporters of Lions for environmental responsibility or safer.

1459
02:24:21,960 --> 02:24:28,480
Say, for respect for requests of the city council, find that the Diff's House of Sport project is not exempt from

1460
02:24:28,480 --> 02:24:35,800
sequit and require the city to prepare an initial study, followed by an MMD or EIR. The project does not

1461
02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:40,700
qualify for an infill exemption, because there is a substantial evidence of the project will have significant

1462
02:24:40,700 --> 02:24:46,880
traffic impacts. Participation expert Norman Marshall reviewed the exemption and found several

1463
02:24:46,880 --> 02:24:49,260
laws with the city's traffic impacting analysis.

1464
02:24:50,220 --> 02:24:54,520
For example, the city found that the project was screened from further VMT modeling because

1465
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:59,440
the project site is within the high-quality transit corridor and meets other criteria.

1466
02:25:00,540 --> 02:25:05,740
However, as Mr. Marshall demonstrated, the project site does not fall under the statutory definition

1467
02:25:05,740 --> 02:25:11,420
of high-quality transit corridor because the project site is serviced by several transit agencies

1468
02:25:11,420 --> 02:25:15,640
with infrequent bus routes at intervals of 30 minutes or more.

1469
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:19,720
Therefore, the project is not screened out from further analysis.

1470
02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:25,780
Additionally, the city's own VMT analysis shows that the project will have significant impacts.

1471
02:25:26,340 --> 02:25:30,960
The city's assessment concluded that the project would generate around 3,800 weekday trips,

1472
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:33,840
and 56,100 Saturday trips.

1473
02:25:34,380 --> 02:25:38,900
But implied that these trips were offset by trips that were generated by the city's department store,

1474
02:25:39,620 --> 02:25:42,320
located on the project site, which closed in 2019.

1475
02:25:43,020 --> 02:25:48,580
But a serious store that closed seven years ago cannot be used as part of the baseline for this project.

1476
02:25:49,180 --> 02:25:56,500
Seco requires the lead agency to analyze the environmental baseline as it actually exists at the time the environmental analysis commenced.

1477
02:25:57,100 --> 02:26:01,020
Thus, the proper baseline is one of no current use of the project site.

1478
02:26:01,700 --> 02:26:05,500
Compared to that baseline, the project's generation of 3800 weekday,

1479
02:26:05,500 --> 02:26:12,160
and 5600 Saturday trips is an significant impact that warns full analysis and mitigation.

1480
02:26:13,420 --> 02:26:16,640
For these reasons, the project is not qualified for the infill exemption.

1481
02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:22,840
Save for requests that the city council declined to approve the project until an M&D or EIR is prepared.

1482
02:26:23,380 --> 02:26:25,040
Thank you so much for your time consideration.

1483
02:26:26,260 --> 02:26:26,940
Thank you.

1484
02:26:27,460 --> 02:26:28,720
Do we have any further speakers?

1485
02:26:29,320 --> 02:26:31,300
There are no other remote speakers raising their hand.

1486
02:26:31,300 --> 02:26:32,520
I believe we have one in person.

1487
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:34,740
speaker? Okay. Mr. Palman?

1488
02:26:39,290 --> 02:26:39,330
No.

1489
02:26:45,770 --> 02:26:49,730
David Palman. So I'd like to start by acknowledging that I was

1490
02:26:49,730 --> 02:26:54,190
present at the Planning Commission meeting, and I was very impressed by the presence of the number

1491
02:26:54,190 --> 02:27:02,690
of people from Dix at that day and again tonight. The only comments are in reference to placement

1492
02:27:02,690 --> 02:27:11,050
of this facility on the on the lot. So, I'm not a person in favor of the train,

1493
02:27:11,050 --> 02:27:20,890
But we should consider that what is if the train comes through how we best maybe can maximize the use of this space.

1494
02:27:21,370 --> 02:27:29,310
And so I don't see that the Dick sporting goods would bring a lot of people on the train to visit the store.

1495
02:27:29,570 --> 02:27:38,070
I think they're probably better uses for that area of the shopping center that would complement the train process.

1496
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:47,310
So, just as some of the people in my area, when we contemplated the placement of the Starbucks

1497
02:27:47,310 --> 02:27:56,510
at the corner of Dalamol and Bloomfield, there were theaters previously on the location

1498
02:27:56,510 --> 02:28:05,370
of the Serious Center in the southwesternary portion, large area there that could be used

1499
02:28:05,370 --> 02:28:13,250
for someplace this would be a good location for a plot that this is large, so that's my comment.

1500
02:28:13,750 --> 02:28:16,670
And again, going back to the housing element,

1501
02:28:19,170 --> 02:28:22,410
if we are in favor of having a train come in,

1502
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:35,350
wouldn't it be best for us to have housing if we're going to have something in that portion of the

1503
02:28:35,350 --> 02:28:38,670
is presented to the city. Thank you.

1504
02:28:38,670 --> 02:28:42,750
Thank you. If there are no other speakers, I will go ahead and close public comments.

1505
02:28:43,710 --> 02:28:46,610
May you're at this time. We have one additional remote participant.

1506
02:28:47,150 --> 02:28:47,910
Thank you.

1507
02:28:48,310 --> 02:28:52,470
Speaker, tell you about this. Please unmute your microphone and begin your comments.

1508
02:28:55,820 --> 02:28:56,680
Hi. Good afternoon.

1509
02:28:58,600 --> 02:28:59,900
Sorry. Can you hear me?

1510
02:29:00,640 --> 02:29:01,160
We can hear you.

1511
02:29:01,960 --> 02:29:07,780
Okay. So I'm looking at the whole plan about the big

1512
02:29:07,780 --> 02:29:09,880
House of Sports, and it sounds great.

1513
02:29:10,100 --> 02:29:15,140
My only concern is, what is the city going to implement for public safety?

1514
02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:23,720
I know recently we have had a lot of occurrences around the mall, and with this new

1515
02:29:23,720 --> 02:29:30,380
development and a lot more people being attracted to it, what is the safety looking like

1516
02:29:30,380 --> 02:29:33,200
for everybody that's with more people coming in?

1517
02:29:40,570 --> 02:29:43,550
Is that the end of your comments or your remarks?

1518
02:29:43,650 --> 02:29:43,890
Yes.

1519
02:29:43,890 --> 02:29:50,930
Yes, I just wanted to know if there's a plan in place or if that's something you're going to consider about more safety at the mall

1520
02:29:58,600 --> 02:29:59,980
We do not take

1521
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,000
Info numbers from Zoom, however, if the speaker would like to provide our office tomorrow or via e-mail.

1522
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:15,000
At city, underscore clerk at cerido.gov, you may provide your contact information so that staff may reach out to you.

1523
02:30:16,080 --> 02:30:17,500
I will go ahead and do that. Thank you.

1524
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:22,320
Thank you. All right. I'm going to go ahead and close public comments.

1525
02:30:23,380 --> 02:30:26,080
And may if I may note the written comments.

1526
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:30,680
that's right ahead. Thank you for the record. I will announce that prior to the meeting

1527
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:34,240
the City Council received full text on redacted copies of the two written comments

1528
02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:37,820
submitted for item eight a request for copies of written comments can be made to the

1529
02:30:37,820 --> 02:30:43,400
office of the City Clerk General Actual Business Ours. Thank you, City Clerk.

1530
02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:50,980
All right. We are on item eight a public hearing. We still have item eight b for another public hearing.

1531
02:30:50,980 --> 02:31:19,320
And we also have items 9 A, B, and C. I'm going to ask my council colleagues to be mindful of the time and to please keep your comments for this item as well as 8 not the 8 B 9 A, B and C as as brief as you can, I want to be mindful of the time. So we will go ahead and have final comments on 8 A.

1532
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:22,040
Do we have any final comments on A, A?

1533
02:31:23,300 --> 02:31:24,160
Yes. Go ahead.

1534
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:25,180
Thanks.

1535
02:31:26,380 --> 02:31:30,380
I thought I said everything, but I just wanted to respond to Mr.

1536
02:31:30,520 --> 02:31:31,100
Pileman.

1537
02:31:31,660 --> 02:31:33,100
It was wonderful to hear your comments.

1538
02:31:34,360 --> 02:31:38,960
Even though you made comments up, you know, against the train.

1539
02:31:39,720 --> 02:31:48,800
At least you're open to having a conversation about what might be

1540
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:55,660
located at the Lost Street of Center, and then for also to mention about housing, which is

1541
02:31:55,660 --> 02:32:00,960
transit oriented development, that I appreciate that feedback.

1542
02:32:01,780 --> 02:32:09,900
And I know earlier you had made a comment to me about wanting to have an hour conversation.

1543
02:32:09,900 --> 02:32:14,260
I'm really open to that, especially after your comments about this.

1544
02:32:14,260 --> 02:32:23,160
So that's all I have to say further and at the appropriate time I love to make the motion to approve this.

1545
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:24,100
Thank you again.

1546
02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:26,940
Excuse me, can I make a comments please?

1547
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:39,040
I'd like to hear the comments maybe for a city manager or a attorney about the other speaker on the Zoom regarding the CQI review.

1548
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:40,620
Am I right?

1549
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:41,400
Yes.

1550
02:32:41,400 --> 02:33:05,860
Thank you, Councilmember Hong and I'd like to reiterate that on Friday, July 24th, the city did receive comments from the safer organization regarding claims that the project is not exempt under CQA for the class 32 in fill exemption and they basically said that their grounds are based on three claims.

1551
02:33:05,860 --> 02:33:14,220
one that the project site isn't located along a high-quality transit corridor to that the parking

1552
02:33:14,220 --> 02:33:24,580
analysis was inadequate misleading and three. The store closure from Sears in 2019 was not appropriate

1553
02:33:24,580 --> 02:33:31,380
for a review as the baseline. And that all went to the fact that they believe that there was

1554
02:33:31,380 --> 02:33:38,000
inadequate study with respect to transportation and traffic concerns, which would pull it out of

1555
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:46,920
sequence class 32 exemption. And LLG, which is the consultant that provided the traffic

1556
02:33:48,300 --> 02:33:53,620
review for due deck, they also provided a response to those three claims.

1557
02:33:53,860 --> 02:33:59,760
You receive those today in response to each of the claims that they made and basically

1558
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:13,740
First, to address the high quality transit corridor issue, the city relied on scabs, which is the regional planning for transportation and housing.

1559
02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:23,720
They've already designated the areas around the suite as a high quality transit corridor as part of their regional transportation plan.

1560
02:34:23,720 --> 02:34:32,920
And so with the difference to the regional analysis from Skag, that's where the high quality

1561
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:39,160
transit corridor comes from, with respect to the parking issue, there is a net reduction

1562
02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:45,660
in the parking for this project of 55 spaces, so it actually does reduce the traffic for this

1563
02:34:45,660 --> 02:34:51,200
project site, notwithstanding the fact that they made claims that the project is overparked

1564
02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:53,660
as in totality for the mall.

1565
02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:57,260
We look at this specific project,

1566
02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:00,560
notwithstanding any other issues with the surrounding properties.

1567
02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:03,640
And lastly, with the Steers closure,

1568
02:35:04,360 --> 02:35:07,720
the analysis actually did a conservative approach.

1569
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:13,360
They took the gross project trips with the current analysis

1570
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:18,620
and based on the conservative analysis

1571
02:35:18,620 --> 02:35:27,300
of the impacts of the weekday empties and the weekends, they still concluded that there was

1572
02:35:27,300 --> 02:35:34,720
no significant impact with respect to traffic and the consultant is here and available to further

1573
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:39,600
provide analysis but it's all included within the memo that was provided today.

1574
02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:48,780
Thank you. Do you mind we have some the consultants can give us some explanations since they're here. Thank

1575
02:35:48,780 --> 02:35:49,800
Good

1576
02:35:54,560 --> 02:36:09,360
evening. I'd be happy to respond to any questions that you might have about the VMT and our responses that we put together this afternoon basically in response to the safer letter.

1577
02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:13,980
So specifically what questions would you have in your position?

1578
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:15,120
My apologies.

1579
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:17,200
My name is Trisa Allen.

1580
02:36:17,460 --> 02:36:20,000
I'm with Lynne Scott Law and Greenspend Engineers.

1581
02:36:21,260 --> 02:36:25,780
And we were the ones that put together the VMT screening

1582
02:36:25,780 --> 02:36:30,900
and trip generation assessment for the Dix House of Sport.

1583
02:36:36,130 --> 02:36:37,350
Thank you.

1584
02:36:39,930 --> 02:36:46,010
And what's your conclusion and what your study, everything is okay

1585
02:36:46,010 --> 02:36:52,450
for our CD and for safety, for transportation, for parking?

1586
02:36:52,890 --> 02:36:57,810
Yes, in fact, if I can just give a very quick overview

1587
02:36:57,810 --> 02:37:01,150
that the focus of the analysis is very consistent

1588
02:37:01,730 --> 02:37:06,550
with the city skydelines on traffic impacts that is,

1589
02:37:06,750 --> 02:37:10,290
which is in accordance with the county of Los Angeles as well,

1590
02:37:10,450 --> 02:37:14,630
with regards to VNT screening, VNT analysis,

1591
02:37:14,630 --> 02:37:17,590
which has really evolved in time.

1592
02:37:17,850 --> 02:37:19,930
It used to be levels of service.

1593
02:37:20,450 --> 02:37:22,910
If that's something that you're familiar with,

1594
02:37:22,970 --> 02:37:26,650
you know, older, older traffic impact studies

1595
02:37:26,650 --> 02:37:29,370
under CEQI required level of service analysis.

1596
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:40,600
But ever since SB743, where the state's goal in reducing GHG for air quality purposes and all that,

1597
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:49,800
we have since moved on to the analysis of VMT. And with that, and upon our very close

1598
02:37:49,800 --> 02:38:19,220
coordination with city staff, we knew that what we had as a basis for our test, you know, screening test for this was based on Skag, which for all other other jurisdictions, you know, it's the same approach that we apply, we basically go by what Skag has predefined as major transit centers or high quality specific to our project.

1599
02:38:19,220 --> 02:38:39,660
It's the high quality transit corridors, and we've been able to determine that the most of the latest and currently available map put together by Skag that the each roadway

1600
02:38:39,660 --> 02:38:44,600
joining a low-sereto center, which is basically 183rd on the north,

1601
02:38:45,660 --> 02:38:53,560
gridley on the east, and then south on the south, that each one of those are high quality

1602
02:38:53,560 --> 02:39:01,000
transit corridors, which means that there is a very clear indication that the project meets

1603
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:12,060
the screening criteria for VNT that basically says that the projects, the project can be considered

1604
02:39:12,060 --> 02:39:20,740
to have less than significant traffic impacts. So that's essentially the approach, again,

1605
02:39:20,740 --> 02:39:31,820
consistent with area-wide standards of how to conduct VMT screening and apply to the project.

1606
02:39:33,340 --> 02:39:36,860
Thank you for your explanation. I appreciate that.

1607
02:39:37,880 --> 02:39:38,840
Thank you.

1608
02:39:39,320 --> 02:39:40,920
There's no end of the comments. I'll make a comment.

1609
02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:41,800
I have a comment.

1610
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:42,600
Go ahead.

1611
02:39:45,930 --> 02:39:53,490
Yeah, and I'm glad to hear that we're relying on the, we're relying on the data from

1612
02:39:53,490 --> 02:39:56,590
Skad, Southern California Association of Governments.

1613
02:39:58,070 --> 02:40:06,230
I'm honored that I have been the regional council member representing Serito Sartizia, Hawaiian

1614
02:40:06,230 --> 02:40:10,110
Gardens in Norwalk on the Skad Regional Council since 2019.

1615
02:40:11,270 --> 02:40:24,610
So again, I'm glad that we are looking at the data from Scag's Connect Soul Cal to confirm that this is an HQTC.

1616
02:40:25,570 --> 02:40:32,590
Also, we got Trisha Allen's memo, the City Council got Trisha Allen's memo.

1617
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:33,430
today.

1618
02:40:35,610 --> 02:40:43,190
It was sent to us at 5 p.m. It was emailed to the City Council today at 5 p.m.

1619
02:40:43,310 --> 02:40:48,650
Is this going to be part of the public record or do I have to say, put this in the public record?

1620
02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:53,470
Thank you for your question, Councillor Murio Kuyama, this will be included in the official record.

1621
02:40:55,190 --> 02:40:59,170
Okay, because we got it after 3 p.m.

1622
02:40:59,310 --> 02:41:03,250
But you're confirming it's going to be in the public record for this agenda item.

1623
02:41:03,250 --> 02:41:06,690
Yes, as this is the public hearing, it will be included.

1624
02:41:07,150 --> 02:41:13,550
Okay, so Trissa, we got this, this, the City Council got this email to us before the meeting.

1625
02:41:14,110 --> 02:41:14,730
Thank you.

1626
02:41:16,690 --> 02:41:17,890
Thank you.

1627
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:19,610
Anybody else?

1628
02:41:20,530 --> 02:41:23,090
Okay, I'm just, you know, please to support this project.

1629
02:41:23,630 --> 02:41:25,710
It's not just a store, it's an experience.

1630
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:31,310
This project represents a type of economic development that strengthens our city.

1631
02:41:31,310 --> 02:41:37,450
attracting a nationally recognized retailer, creating jobs, activating our commercial center,

1632
02:41:37,930 --> 02:41:44,090
and generating additional sales tax revenue that help support the services our residents value.

1633
02:41:45,010 --> 02:41:49,950
As we look ahead to the 2028 Olympics and Paralympic Games coming to Los Angeles,

1634
02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:55,770
Serritos is well positioned to benefit from increased regional tourism and activity.

1635
02:41:55,770 --> 02:42:02,850
So I'd like to thank Community Development for their hard work and involvement in this project and many

1636
02:42:02,850 --> 02:42:08,750
thanks to the exporting goods, Los Serrido Center, for their partnerships and bringing this project forward.

1637
02:42:10,310 --> 02:42:12,550
So I proudly support this item.

1638
02:42:13,310 --> 02:42:21,530
And I believe we have a motion and a second motion made by Mayor Protemor Toledo and the second was made by Council Member Frank

1639
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:35,800
Thank you for waiting.

1640
02:42:38,730 --> 02:42:43,150
All right, next up, we have item eight B city manager.

1641
02:42:43,370 --> 02:42:45,070
Do we have a report on this item?

1642
02:42:45,470 --> 02:42:46,890
Yes, thank you, Mayor members of the city council.

1643
02:42:47,070 --> 02:42:51,090
Item eight B is also a public hearing with a development proposal.

1644
02:42:51,250 --> 02:42:54,530
This is for a proposed exterior remodel at the northwest corner.

1645
02:42:55,570 --> 02:42:58,670
The shopping center located at the northwest corner of our TGB.

1646
02:42:58,670 --> 02:43:00,170
of art and harmony to road.

1647
02:43:00,410 --> 02:43:04,850
An overview of this project will be given by senior planner, Jeremy Lowe, and following

1648
02:43:04,850 --> 02:43:07,910
his presentation, he and members of the team will be happy to answer any questions.

1649
02:43:16,520 --> 02:43:17,580
Thank you, Mr. Lopas.

1650
02:43:17,820 --> 02:43:23,340
Good evening, Madam Mayor, and Cereados Council members, applicant, Sarkis Tartarian, is requesting

1651
02:43:23,340 --> 02:43:30,820
approval of precise plan 1969-5-2026 amendment to permit an exterior remodel of several

1652
02:43:30,820 --> 02:43:35,000
commercial buildings at the Commercial Shopping Center located at the Northwest Corner

1653
02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:40,280
of Artesia Boulevard and Carmenina Road, but proposed also includes improvements to the parking

1654
02:43:40,280 --> 02:43:41,820
lot and new landscaping.

1655
02:43:42,580 --> 02:43:45,880
Before the details, I would like to direct your attention to the screen for your presentation.

1656
02:43:49,140 --> 02:43:50,800
This is an aerial view of the subject property.

1657
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:55,780
The property is bordered on the north by Staures Elementary School, on the south by Artesia

1658
02:43:55,780 --> 02:44:00,680
Boulevard, on the west by properties of its own single family residential, and on the east

1659
02:44:00,680 --> 02:44:01,640
by Carmenina Road.

1660
02:44:06,420 --> 02:44:09,260
This is an enlarged aerial view that shows the details of the property.

1661
02:44:09,820 --> 02:44:16,040
The project scope is outlined in blue and only includes commercial and retail buildings on the northern portion of the shopping center.

1662
02:44:17,140 --> 02:44:24,660
The other parcels shaded in blue are now included in the project scope due to the multiple property ownership structure of the entire shopping center.

1663
02:44:28,450 --> 02:44:31,490
Here are photographs of the existing retail spaces of the shopping center.

1664
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:37,350
On the left is a view of the former market space and on the right is a view of the inline retail stores.

1665
02:44:38,150 --> 02:44:41,610
Both images show minimal landscaping in the existing parking lot.

1666
02:44:44,390 --> 02:44:51,310
The applicant is proposing to refresh the exterior facades of the subject property with new materials and paint.

1667
02:44:52,010 --> 02:44:54,310
Here are proposed elevations for the former market space.

1668
02:44:55,170 --> 02:44:59,970
At the top is the front elevation of the market showing charcoal grey metal fascia panels and wood texture.

1669
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,140
Alluminum 2 columns wrapped with stacked stone veneer. The sign area at the front of the front will be reduced and will be the same wood textured aluminum material. The reduced sign area will review more of the storefront glazing behind it. At the bottom is the front elevation showing the actual storefront. The exterior will be repainted pure white with the strip of dark gray paint to mimic the charcoal gray metal fascia. The stone veneer on the columns will be light colored to compliment the pure white paint.

1670
02:45:30,930 --> 02:45:35,290
Here are proposed elevations for the in-line retail building.

1671
02:45:36,190 --> 02:45:37,530
As you can see at the bottom of the slide,

1672
02:45:37,690 --> 02:45:42,690
the charcoal gray metal fascia panels will be accented by titanium white tower elements,

1673
02:45:43,570 --> 02:45:44,730
with a metal block pattern.

1674
02:45:45,450 --> 02:45:48,750
The same wood textured aluminum tube columns with light colored stacks

1675
02:45:48,750 --> 02:45:51,590
don't have any errors proposed to be consistent with the market's face.

1676
02:45:52,830 --> 02:45:56,010
The same gray material, the same gray metal panels excuse me,

1677
02:45:56,370 --> 02:45:58,910
are proposed on the rear elevations to provide visual interest

1678
02:45:58,910 --> 02:46:01,330
and complement the new front facade materials.

1679
02:46:05,340 --> 02:46:08,020
This is the proposed site plan in conceptual landscape plan.

1680
02:46:08,800 --> 02:46:12,080
The shopping center was originally approved and developed in 1970.

1681
02:46:12,820 --> 02:46:14,960
The approval of the shopping center and its construction

1682
02:46:14,960 --> 02:46:18,500
precedes the city's adoption of landscape and parking standards.

1683
02:46:19,040 --> 02:46:21,640
And therefore, the existing landscape and parking

1684
02:46:21,640 --> 02:46:24,040
is a legal, non-conforming condition.

1685
02:46:25,180 --> 02:46:27,280
In compliance with the Seritos Municipal Code,

1686
02:46:27,860 --> 02:46:30,100
the applicant is proposing to significantly increase

1687
02:46:30,100 --> 02:46:31,920
the amount of landscaping throughout the site

1688
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:34,200
and repave and re-strike the parking lot.

1689
02:46:35,840 --> 02:46:40,140
Other site improvements include relocating the row of parking directly adjacent to the in-line

1690
02:46:40,140 --> 02:46:45,960
retail spaces and creating an enhanced outdoor area with covered dining spaces surrounded by

1691
02:46:45,960 --> 02:46:51,760
raised stone planters. The applicant is also proposing to add additional landscape planters

1692
02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:54,440
throughout the parking lot and compliance with the Serritos Municipal Code.

1693
02:46:56,240 --> 02:47:01,360
In regards to the parking, the project requires a total of 209 parking stalls for the project

1694
02:47:01,360 --> 02:47:07,320
area. The existing parking count for the project area is 192 parking stalls.

1695
02:47:09,080 --> 02:47:13,160
Due to the increased landscape areas and enhanced outdoor dining areas, the applicant is

1696
02:47:13,160 --> 02:47:19,520
proposing 191 parking stalls. A net loss of only one parking stall within the subject area.

1697
02:47:21,060 --> 02:47:25,140
In circumstances of legal non-conforming conditions, the city seeks reasonable compliance with

1698
02:47:25,140 --> 02:47:30,480
the Serritos Municipal Code when total compliance is not attainable. As a result of the

1699
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:34,800
applicants efforts to increase landscaping, the project brings the property into reasonable

1700
02:47:34,800 --> 02:47:39,940
compliance, additionally to ensure sufficient parking is available for the new tenants,

1701
02:47:40,740 --> 02:47:45,820
a parking analysis may be required by staff prior to approval of future tenant business

1702
02:47:45,820 --> 02:47:47,900
licenses at that time.

1703
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:55,760
This is a perspective rendering facing the northwest showing the parking lot and landscape

1704
02:47:55,760 --> 02:47:56,440
improvements.

1705
02:47:57,560 --> 02:48:01,220
The applicant is proposing landscape planters throughout the parking lot consistent with

1706
02:48:01,220 --> 02:48:03,480
cities landscape standards and policies.

1707
02:48:05,880 --> 02:48:09,780
This is a perspective rendering facing north from the drive aisle in front of the market space.

1708
02:48:10,240 --> 02:48:16,200
Note the pure white paint and wood textured metal columns and wood textured metal sign area with

1709
02:48:16,200 --> 02:48:18,340
stacked stone veneer in front of the market space.

1710
02:48:21,150 --> 02:48:26,770
This is a perspective rendering showing from the front of the market space facing north east showing

1711
02:48:26,770 --> 02:48:30,090
the new inline retail spaces and covered outdoor dining areas.

1712
02:48:30,090 --> 02:48:35,470
Note the lighter metal panel tower elements protruding from the new charcoal gray metal fascia.

1713
02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:39,890
To the left is a proposed water feature and seat wall planter,

1714
02:48:40,450 --> 02:48:43,630
while to the right are covered dining areas protected by raised planters.

1715
02:48:45,010 --> 02:48:48,870
Note the planters and building columns will both be wrapped with stacked stone veneer,

1716
02:48:49,810 --> 02:48:52,990
and the columns will feature a wood texture like in the front of the market space.

1717
02:48:55,990 --> 02:49:01,070
Here is an additional perspective rendering on the easterly end of the inline retail buildings facing west,

1718
02:49:01,070 --> 02:49:04,910
showing the outdoor dining area and covered walkway in greater detail.

1719
02:49:05,610 --> 02:49:11,090
Again, note the wood textured metal columns, stone veneer on planters and columns, metal

1720
02:49:11,090 --> 02:49:13,730
soft fits under the tower elements and potted plants.

1721
02:49:16,660 --> 02:49:18,800
This concludes the details of the proposed use.

1722
02:49:19,320 --> 02:49:23,960
Our soon-to-section 153.01 of the California Environmental Quality Act guidelines.

1723
02:49:24,180 --> 02:49:26,960
This project is categorically exempt from SQL review,

1724
02:49:27,620 --> 02:49:29,600
as it is an existing facility being remodeled.

1725
02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:35,440
The Planning Commission consider the project on July 1st, 2026, and recommend it to the City Council,

1726
02:49:36,360 --> 02:49:44,260
approve precise plan 1969-5, 2026 amendment. Public hearing notices are posted and published on July 17,

1727
02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:51,420
10 days prior to tonight's meeting. Staff did not receive any comments from the public from the public hearing notices.

1728
02:49:52,140 --> 02:49:56,200
Before you this evening's consideration of the precise plan amendment to permit a major

1729
02:49:56,200 --> 02:50:00,060
exterior remodel and related site improvements to a commercial shopping center at the

1730
02:50:00,060 --> 02:50:02,720
northwest corner of Carminita Road in Artesia Boulevard.

1731
02:50:06,700 --> 02:50:09,820
At this time, it is recommended that the City Council review and discussed the information

1732
02:50:09,820 --> 02:50:14,940
provided, conduct a public hearing, and waive full reading of and adopt a resolution

1733
02:50:14,940 --> 02:50:16,580
approving the precise plan amendment.

1734
02:50:18,610 --> 02:50:20,030
This concludes staff's presentation.

1735
02:50:21,010 --> 02:50:22,890
I'd be happy to answer any questions at this time.

1736
02:50:22,890 --> 02:50:30,010
The project manager and the project architect is in the audience tonight to answer questions for the council as well.

1737
02:50:30,290 --> 02:50:31,050
Thank you.

1738
02:50:31,290 --> 02:50:32,050
Thank you.

1739
02:50:32,250 --> 02:50:32,910
Thank you.

1740
02:50:33,110 --> 02:50:34,470
Do we have any questions from the council?

1741
02:50:35,890 --> 02:50:36,890
Yes, go ahead.

1742
02:50:40,500 --> 02:50:41,380
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1743
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:47,360
Thank you, Mr. Low, for your presentation and the staff that work on the report.

1744
02:50:49,360 --> 02:51:01,700
I really appreciate the upgrade to the facades and the use of stone veneer and the wood element.

1745
02:51:02,280 --> 02:51:08,880
Is there a similar board, the Dix Sporting Goods for this?

1746
02:51:08,880 --> 02:51:12,980
If not, that's okay, but if there was one, I don't see it up here.

1747
02:51:12,980 --> 02:51:22,220
The samples provided were in metal panels, which weren't able to fit on a board, but the staff

1748
02:51:22,220 --> 02:51:25,040
does have samples in the city hall. Okay.

1749
02:51:27,830 --> 02:51:31,410
From what I see from the presentation and also the materials

1750
02:51:31,410 --> 02:51:38,090
that have arrived here, this is a significant upgrade to what is the current current condition,

1751
02:51:39,470 --> 02:51:46,410
And let's just be honest, it's been an I-SOR for the community, for far too long.

1752
02:51:47,850 --> 02:51:53,950
I remember when it was a vibrant part of the local community, when Alphabet was the supermarket,

1753
02:51:54,090 --> 02:51:55,890
and that was a long, long time ago.

1754
02:51:57,870 --> 02:52:07,650
So I'm eager to find out what business is going to be located in the anchor store there.

1755
02:52:07,650 --> 02:52:14,350
Um, I, you know, it wasn't a part of the presentation, but I think with these enhancements

1756
02:52:14,350 --> 02:52:26,430
of, and the landscaping, and so forth, I think will help attract businesses to this

1757
02:52:26,430 --> 02:52:29,970
sorely depressed commercial life.

1758
02:52:31,400 --> 02:52:47,620
I just got to underscore that, that this is a long time coming and I'm very grateful to staff working with the property owners, applicants to bring us to us and also the planning commission for their efforts.

1759
02:52:47,620 --> 02:52:58,580
My question is with regard to the seated areas along the north part of the development.

1760
02:53:00,520 --> 02:53:07,740
I appreciate that there are the planters there and that'll provide for greater safety.

1761
02:53:08,220 --> 02:53:12,180
And it also is a nice enhancement to that area.

1762
02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:22,760
But I'm wondering how you're able to make up for the loss in parking with just a net loss

1763
02:53:22,760 --> 02:53:27,940
of one parking space. Can you walk us through that? I suspect. I know the answer to it,

1764
02:53:28,820 --> 02:53:36,800
but if you could go into a little detail about how you're able to maintain the current level

1765
02:53:36,800 --> 02:53:44,040
parking available. Yeah, so staff worked with the applicants. We went back and forth on how to

1766
02:53:44,780 --> 02:53:50,620
minimize the loss of parking while providing the maximum amount of landscaping or at least to meet

1767
02:53:50,620 --> 02:53:55,440
the minimum landscaping requirements for the site. In the staff report, but not mentioned

1768
02:53:55,440 --> 02:54:02,260
in tonight's hearing, but I guess I'll mention it now. Existing landscaping, it comprised about 5% of

1769
02:54:02,260 --> 02:54:08,360
project site where the City of Serious requires 15% of the site to be landscaped and the

1770
02:54:08,360 --> 02:54:15,300
applicants are now providing over 15% landscaping like 15.8 and so they're tripling landscaping

1771
02:54:16,180 --> 02:54:22,130
again while also only resulting in a net loss of one parking space. They achieved that by

1772
02:54:23,840 --> 02:54:28,020
restriping the parking lot especially in the backside on the backside of the market.

1773
02:54:28,020 --> 02:54:35,320
The parking stalls were larger than the city's standard parking requirements, and so they were able to pick up parking there.

1774
02:54:36,140 --> 02:54:44,240
And they also re-striped some parking on the easterly side adjacent to Carminita, where there was a drive aisle.

1775
02:54:44,880 --> 02:54:49,160
They're actually enclosing the drive aisle, so that picked up some additional parking spaces as well.

1776
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:59,680
So, even though they added outdoor dining, which costed 16 parking stalls, they were able to make up 15 parking stalls.

1777
02:55:00,820 --> 02:55:14,640
Excellent, so they made up the 15 by going to more standard sized parking spaces behind the buildings.

1778
02:55:14,640 --> 02:55:27,140
Correct. Okay. So how about the existing spaces in the front? Are they remaining standard size or are are you

1779
02:55:28,220 --> 02:55:37,520
creating more compact ones? They're remaining the standard size. Okay. Good. Several of the parking stalls, especially on the very ends.

1780
02:55:38,200 --> 02:55:40,580
You can't see my cursor, but on the ends of the parking aisles,

1781
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:46,940
adjacent to Carminita will actually be a wider because they're adjacent to a

1782
02:55:46,940 --> 02:55:51,500
a planter which will allow for easier turning into the space.

1783
02:55:51,980 --> 02:55:55,080
Wonderful. And I'll just add that insurveda as we do not permit compact space.

1784
02:55:55,180 --> 02:56:01,840
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, because increasing the you see that in other cities,

1785
02:56:02,080 --> 02:56:07,060
I'm not naming any cities, but when they label it compact,

1786
02:56:08,660 --> 02:56:35,680
It's even, it's so small and there are so many SUVs and many vans and just so many bigger cars these days that it's really frustrating that people just, you know, shove a SUV in a compact and, you know, people can't even get in and out of the cars, it's not a good experience and you know, cars get dented, you know, all of that.

1787
02:56:35,680 --> 02:57:01,740
I wouldn't want that type of frustration here in Serritos, so I'm pleased to see that great efforts were put into enhancing the property, but then also not at the cost of having standard parking spaces for customers, diners, et cetera, to come to this development.

1788
02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:04,860
I have no further questions.

1789
02:57:05,380 --> 02:57:06,580
Thank you so much.

1790
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:08,800
I do have a question, Mayor.

1791
02:57:09,160 --> 02:57:09,480
Go ahead.

1792
02:57:10,080 --> 02:57:10,400
Okay.

1793
02:57:10,460 --> 02:57:11,240
I have two questions.

1794
02:57:11,420 --> 02:57:16,940
The first one is like the one, the facing the Artisha one,

1795
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:20,360
that building is not including the whole street mall.

1796
02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:25,520
But are they allowed to use to share the parking lot behind the store,

1797
02:57:25,840 --> 02:57:30,260
those parking space on the backside of the store?

1798
02:57:30,260 --> 02:57:37,280
So there is an agreement among the various owners for common area maintenance.

1799
02:57:37,420 --> 02:57:44,780
It's a very loosely held agreement, but there is a provision for reciprocal access.

1800
02:57:45,080 --> 02:57:48,700
So in theory, the parking among all the lots is shared.

1801
02:57:48,840 --> 02:57:53,900
However, for purposes of analyzing this project, we look slowly at the subject parcels.

1802
02:57:53,900 --> 02:57:59,900
and for the subject parcels, there is substantial compliance with the municipal code requirements.

1803
02:58:00,660 --> 02:58:06,400
I see, okay, my second question is because, okay, it looks like we have a great improvement

1804
02:58:06,840 --> 02:58:11,700
on this area, but how about the free more at the front?

1805
02:58:11,900 --> 02:58:16,720
And also the one, the bank next to it, you know, you don't want to those two,

1806
02:58:16,720 --> 02:58:21,320
would now to bring down the value of our new place.

1807
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:25,320
So, show we required them to keep up with this.

1808
02:58:25,320 --> 02:58:29,960
So, the whole lot will look so much more attractive.

1809
02:58:30,680 --> 02:58:32,340
I'll comment on the bank first, the bank,

1810
02:58:32,500 --> 02:58:34,540
which, friends, on Carmonita Road,

1811
02:58:34,640 --> 02:58:36,620
is actually is part of this project.

1812
02:58:37,100 --> 02:58:39,240
And they're proposing to repaint the bank building

1813
02:58:39,240 --> 02:58:42,500
to match the color scheme of the rest

1814
02:58:42,500 --> 02:58:45,580
of the subject shopping center area.

1815
02:58:45,580 --> 02:58:53,880
As for the strip center, that's located along the south side facing Artigable of Art, which is not part of the project, as well as the adjacent liquor store.

1816
02:58:55,220 --> 02:59:10,100
We have been working for several years to try to get the entire center to come before the Planning Commission City Council for a proposed remodel, because of the current setup with the maintenance agreement that I referenced.

1817
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:13,660
We cannot compel them to do an upgrade.

1818
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:17,480
However, once this upgrade is in place,

1819
02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:20,020
our hope is that that'll inspire

1820
02:59:20,020 --> 02:59:22,920
these adjacent owners to do something similar.

1821
02:59:24,280 --> 02:59:26,280
And if I may, council member Hong,

1822
02:59:26,760 --> 02:59:27,680
Jarmila Steph,

1823
02:59:29,340 --> 02:59:31,860
after the July 1st Planning Commission meeting,

1824
02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:36,020
the actually one of the adjacent property owners of the liquor store,

1825
02:59:36,380 --> 02:59:39,420
which is the tiny building between the market space

1826
02:59:39,420 --> 02:59:44,260
and the inline retail spaces facing artisans.

1827
02:59:44,480 --> 02:59:46,240
They indicated that they were interested

1828
02:59:46,240 --> 02:59:47,780
in doing a similar remodel

1829
02:59:48,300 --> 02:59:51,540
and that they would work with the applicant's team as well.

1830
02:59:52,980 --> 02:59:55,080
So, almost there, but yeah.

1831
02:59:55,560 --> 02:59:56,120
Yeah, great.

1832
02:59:56,420 --> 02:59:59,120
So we just have to convince the front street more

1833
02:59:59,120 --> 02:59:59,980
on there too.

1834
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,920
To apply with it, that would really bring you agenda right there. There are business as well. Thank you.

1835
03:00:09,330 --> 03:00:10,490
Any other questions?

1836
03:00:11,770 --> 03:00:12,270
Yes, please.

1837
03:00:12,390 --> 03:00:13,310
Okay, go ahead.

1838
03:00:15,620 --> 03:00:16,580
Okay, so thanks, Jeremy.

1839
03:00:19,260 --> 03:00:23,600
It says on page 3, parking required.

1840
03:00:24,620 --> 03:00:25,700
209 spaces.

1841
03:00:26,860 --> 03:00:30,060
It says proposed parking 191 spaces.

1842
03:00:30,060 --> 03:00:37,120
Where do I see in the conditions of approval and the project specific conditions approval

1843
03:00:37,120 --> 03:00:47,600
or in the resolution that discrepancy that we're allowing for 1951 spaces when it was calculated

1844
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:50,480
that the parking required is 299 spaces?

1845
03:00:55,390 --> 03:01:04,950
Council member, Yoke Yama, are you referencing a exception or a variance or are you trying to?

1846
03:01:05,030 --> 03:01:11,190
I'm just saying a page three of the agenda report under land use statistics under analysis on use statistics.

1847
03:01:11,670 --> 03:01:15,370
It's as parking required total 209 spaces.

1848
03:01:16,590 --> 03:01:22,430
And then the project is going to have proposed parking of total of 1951 spaces.

1849
03:01:23,290 --> 03:01:26,530
So what does parking require 209 spaces mean?

1850
03:01:26,890 --> 03:01:31,490
If this project is as proposed as only going to have 1951 spaces,

1851
03:01:32,050 --> 03:01:35,930
what does parking required total 209 spaces mean?

1852
03:01:36,410 --> 03:01:38,590
So if I can add to the conversation,

1853
03:01:39,350 --> 03:01:41,730
there is additional discussion on page 4,

1854
03:01:41,730 --> 03:01:47,530
the general report, which is after the statistics table, which describes the history of the shopping

1855
03:01:47,530 --> 03:01:52,510
center and the existing legal non-conforming status of the shopping center.

1856
03:01:52,950 --> 03:01:59,150
The original development proceeded the existing municipal code regulations, and so when it

1857
03:01:59,150 --> 03:02:03,350
was originally approved, it wasn't required to meet these standards.

1858
03:02:04,190 --> 03:02:09,930
However, we have worked with the applicant to do their best to meet these standards, and as

1859
03:02:09,930 --> 03:02:14,770
noted, they have now exceeded the minimum landscaper requirement, which will significantly enhance

1860
03:02:14,770 --> 03:02:20,170
the appearance of the center, and they've made every effort to preserve as many parking spaces

1861
03:02:20,170 --> 03:02:26,770
as possible given that upgrade and landscaping. And so while they do fall short of the required

1862
03:02:26,770 --> 03:02:34,430
into the code, because they are legal and not conforming, consideration is given that the overall

1863
03:02:34,430 --> 03:02:40,390
impact of this project as an enhancement to the center. So the recommendation is to approve

1864
03:02:40,390 --> 03:02:48,310
with the understanding that there is this deficiency. Also, it is noted that depending on

1865
03:02:48,310 --> 03:02:53,970
specific new tenant spaces uses, there may be a need for a parking analysis, perhaps looking

1866
03:02:53,970 --> 03:03:00,390
at time of day. There was precedent set for that years ago, the city council approved

1867
03:03:00,390 --> 03:03:06,130
a gym use at the corner of Paloverde and South Street, ultimately, because of COVID that

1868
03:03:06,130 --> 03:03:12,190
that gym use was not built, but in connection with that use, there was a time of day,

1869
03:03:12,210 --> 03:03:18,490
time of use analysis under a parking, noting that because of the different needs of different

1870
03:03:18,490 --> 03:03:22,710
times of day, there was adequate parking at any given time to accommodate the needs.

1871
03:03:22,870 --> 03:03:26,810
So that may be a requirement, once we have a specific tenant, that's proposed for the

1872
03:03:26,810 --> 03:03:27,530
large space.

1873
03:03:27,530 --> 03:03:37,290
Yes, I read the agenda report and I read this this explanation on page four. I'm just wondering if we're not if we're not going to require.

1874
03:03:39,070 --> 03:03:39,750
This project.

1875
03:03:41,070 --> 03:03:46,660
To have the required number of parking spaces. That's required under the municipal code.

1876
03:03:47,870 --> 03:03:51,390
Is that covered in the conditions of approval.

1877
03:03:51,390 --> 03:03:57,590
that the City Council is going to be approving tonight, or this much needed project,

1878
03:04:00,170 --> 03:04:09,050
which I am glad that the owners are going to

1879
03:04:10,370 --> 03:04:11,130
I'm

1880
03:04:13,790 --> 03:04:26,110
glad that the owners are going to be bringing a nice new shopping center venue for our residents in that neck of the woods of Serritos.

1881
03:04:27,350 --> 03:04:35,630
I just was wondering with the discrepancy between the required number of parking spaces under the municipal code.

1882
03:04:35,630 --> 03:04:45,550
And the fact that we are going to be approving today a project that has less than the required number of parking spaces under the municipal code.

1883
03:04:45,970 --> 03:04:50,370
But do we need to do to make sure that everything is copesetic?

1884
03:04:51,370 --> 03:05:04,290
And we take care of these owners and they know that they're getting approved for the number of parking spaces that's on the project even though it's less than what's required under the municipal code.

1885
03:05:04,290 --> 03:05:16,550
Where is it in the resolution or the conditions of approval or the project conditions of approval or the standard conditions of approval that we are giving them approval for less than

1886
03:05:16,550 --> 03:05:19,890
the required number of parking spaces under the municipal code?

1887
03:05:20,830 --> 03:05:27,250
So there's no explicit mention in either of those areas the plan that's attached as part of the public record does indicate

1888
03:05:27,250 --> 03:05:33,190
that being part of the proposed approval, if the council would like, we can memorialize that

1889
03:05:33,190 --> 03:05:37,770
understanding either with a condition of approval added or an amendment to the resolution

1890
03:05:37,770 --> 03:05:39,750
to have that explicitly stated.

1891
03:05:39,870 --> 03:05:46,250
What do you think about that city attorney that the project as proposed to this city council

1892
03:05:46,250 --> 03:05:52,770
right now is not in compliance with the municipal code regarding the required number of parking

1893
03:05:52,770 --> 03:05:56,170
spaces and staff and

1894
03:05:59,750 --> 03:06:03,170
staff and the Planning Commission are recommending to this City Council

1895
03:06:03,170 --> 03:06:07,830
to approve this plan when it is not in compliance with the Municipal Code regarding

1896
03:06:07,830 --> 03:06:08,350
parking.

1897
03:06:08,850 --> 03:06:10,430
You're asking the City Council to approve this.

1898
03:06:10,830 --> 03:06:14,090
Are you okay with us approving this City Attorney as is?

1899
03:06:14,570 --> 03:06:20,810
My recommendation would be to include in the findings and the resolution of approval

1900
03:06:20,810 --> 03:06:29,230
that I believe it's under paragraph section two, paragraph two, that the proposed site

1901
03:06:29,230 --> 03:06:33,870
proposed precise plan amendment conforms. We would indicate that the proposed precise

1902
03:06:33,870 --> 03:06:38,350
plan amendment substantially conforms with the applicable land use zone and include

1903
03:06:38,350 --> 03:06:47,530
reference to the findings of evidence under the second paragraph, second full paragraph

1904
03:06:47,530 --> 03:06:55,510
of page four. That would basically comply with the allowance of the net loss of only one

1905
03:06:55,510 --> 03:07:02,930
parking spot in exchange for the increase in landscaping conformants. And that would basically

1906
03:07:02,930 --> 03:07:10,090
make the finding applicable and substantial compliance as provided with the staff report.

1907
03:07:10,290 --> 03:07:16,150
And I hear you, I mean, you've told us what we've heard that there was a net loss of the current

1908
03:07:16,150 --> 03:07:26,710
number of parking spaces. But we are now approving this new much-needed project today. And today,

1909
03:07:27,590 --> 03:07:29,970
it is not in compliance with the required-

1910
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:39,940
I read a number of parking spaces under the municipal code. I want the city council to approve it, knowing that it's okay that we are not complying with the municipal code.

1911
03:07:40,700 --> 03:07:54,980
So tell me again, please, what is the finding a fax going to say so that this city council can approve this project, knowing that we did the right thing, and we're not going to get blamed for approving a project that's not a compliance with the municipal code.

1912
03:07:54,980 --> 03:08:01,620
My recommendation and proposal would be in the section two paragraph two of the findings of the resolution.

1913
03:08:02,260 --> 03:08:10,190
It would state pursuant to the findings of the staff report and specifically the second full paragraph of page four.

1914
03:08:10,940 --> 03:08:20,130
The proposed precise plan amendment substantially conforms with the applicable land use zone and the rest of the paragraph would be as is.

1915
03:08:20,130 --> 03:08:35,290
So we can somebody on this side of the council when we make a motion to approve the planning commission recommendation including the planning staff that the city attorney stated on the record during this year.

1916
03:08:36,390 --> 03:08:36,530
Okay.

1917
03:08:37,670 --> 03:08:38,750
Thank you.

1918
03:08:38,750 --> 03:08:40,410
We have any other questions from the council.

1919
03:08:40,930 --> 03:08:41,970
I just have a quick question.

1920
03:08:42,150 --> 03:08:44,110
I think I live within 500 feet.

1921
03:08:44,390 --> 03:08:46,250
So if I need to.

1922
03:08:46,370 --> 03:08:46,790
I'm okay.

1923
03:08:48,450 --> 03:08:54,650
and if we have no other questions, I'll open up for public comment. Do you have any public comments on this item?

1924
03:08:56,270 --> 03:08:57,610
Cindy, do we have any speakers?

1925
03:08:58,470 --> 03:08:59,530
None at this time, Mayor.

1926
03:09:00,190 --> 03:09:01,810
Any other, did you want to speak?

1927
03:09:02,410 --> 03:09:03,450
Thank you.

1928
03:09:09,020 --> 03:09:09,960
David Payalman.

1929
03:09:10,920 --> 03:09:21,260
Ms. Johnson, I want to start by commenting about the fact that those of us who attend ABC School Board meetings are used to midnight as a cutoff time.

1930
03:09:21,260 --> 03:09:23,120
So let's don't be rushing things here.

1931
03:09:25,000 --> 03:09:29,160
So I was present at the Public Planning Commission meeting

1932
03:09:29,160 --> 03:09:31,640
for this as well.

1933
03:09:32,480 --> 03:09:35,680
And I had some concerns about the parking issue.

1934
03:09:36,520 --> 03:09:40,160
He spent a lot of time driving a lot of different places

1935
03:09:40,160 --> 03:09:41,280
around Southern California.

1936
03:09:42,120 --> 03:09:47,060
I find that behind stores, the parking is not used frequently.

1937
03:09:47,060 --> 03:09:54,600
I go to islands at the town center and it's very easy to find a parking place behind the theaters.

1938
03:09:55,480 --> 03:09:56,780
No one parks back there.

1939
03:09:57,900 --> 03:10:04,840
So the applicant intended that he was going to increase the number of parking places behind the buildings.

1940
03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:12,400
If you drive the site now you find that there are virtually no parking mark parking places back there.

1941
03:10:12,400 --> 03:10:15,180
I'm not quite sure how many of them are going to be used.

1942
03:10:15,820 --> 03:10:22,360
His explanation was that he would ask that the employees parked back there.

1943
03:10:22,580 --> 03:10:25,080
I'm not sure the employees are going to be excited about doing that.

1944
03:10:25,100 --> 03:10:27,500
I'm not sharing that they are going to do that.

1945
03:10:29,740 --> 03:10:35,560
My concern was that argument that night also was that at the Serito's Plaza.

1946
03:10:35,560 --> 03:10:43,380
Keith Stone Plaza, which is at South and Carmenita, we had orchard supply which moved out

1947
03:10:43,380 --> 03:10:49,920
and we moved in EOS fitness and what happened there is that those stores at the front

1948
03:10:49,920 --> 03:10:56,600
part of the Long South Street had to start posting signs that fitness parking was not allowed

1949
03:10:56,600 --> 03:11:19,820
So now, as we go back to items, display 7 on this project, we identify that there's a number of stores there facing our T-Shable of art that may lose their parking because of the overflow of people that are at the new market.

1950
03:11:19,820 --> 03:11:30,480
Isn't it unfortunate that we couldn't get the Tokyo market plans and this project to kind of to be working in concert?

1951
03:11:32,120 --> 03:11:45,160
Because when we off the subject a little bit, when Tokyo market moves into the Town Center right now, there's no parking in front of Pacific sales, even no Pacific sales is closed.

1952
03:11:45,160 --> 03:11:47,800
So, we're going to have a parking issue there as well.

1953
03:11:48,120 --> 03:11:56,020
We did have been nice if we could have put Tokyo market into this shopping center, where there was plenty of parking going to be available.

1954
03:11:57,260 --> 03:12:09,960
So, again, I agree that this is a positive looking improvement to this site, but I am concerned about what this may not be doing down the road with parking.

1955
03:12:10,320 --> 03:12:10,900
Thank you.

1956
03:12:13,070 --> 03:12:20,150
Okay. If there are no other speakers, I'll go ahead and close public comments. We have

1957
03:12:20,150 --> 03:12:25,890
any comments from the council. Go ahead. None. None. Any comments from the council?

1958
03:12:26,610 --> 03:12:31,510
All right. Just want to say that I'm pleased that we are finally going to revitalize this area.

1959
03:12:31,770 --> 03:12:38,730
It's a major facelift for this for the Carmen. Carmen need a Plaza North. It's been

1960
03:12:38,730 --> 03:12:40,730
since 1969.

1961
03:12:42,910 --> 03:12:54,750
So projects like this keep serritos economically strong and competitive, a modern, attractive shopping center is better positioned to attract new businesses and retain existing tenants.

1962
03:12:54,750 --> 03:13:04,510
So I want to encourage anyone that's interested in bringing new retail, restaurant or an entertainment concept to serides to connect with the property owner.

1963
03:13:05,090 --> 03:13:10,130
It's not the city that determines what goes into the plaza, it is the property owner.

1964
03:13:11,230 --> 03:13:19,690
So any creative ideas such as an anti-packing district, I know folks have talked about that a lot where something that can enhance our community.

1965
03:13:19,690 --> 03:13:22,970
Please bring your suggestions to the property owner.

1966
03:13:23,370 --> 03:13:25,730
So thank you again to community development

1967
03:13:26,290 --> 03:13:29,170
for their involvement with this project.

1968
03:13:29,390 --> 03:13:33,390
I'll go ahead and entertain a motion at this time.

1969
03:13:36,790 --> 03:13:39,230
I moved to approve it.

1970
03:13:39,490 --> 03:13:44,330
Subject to, we have to subject to the parking space study.

1971
03:13:44,930 --> 03:13:45,150
Second.

1972
03:13:49,380 --> 03:13:51,680
Was that motion clear enough for you, City Clerk?

1973
03:13:52,900 --> 03:13:54,080
Is it?

1974
03:13:54,720 --> 03:13:55,220
Yes.

1975
03:13:55,220 --> 03:13:59,840
So, I believe the motion is to approve the Planning Commission's recommendation to wafer

1976
03:13:59,840 --> 03:14:06,500
reading of an adopt resolution of the Security Council approving precise plan 1969-5, 2020-6,

1977
03:14:06,880 --> 03:14:11,060
amendment, a proposal by the property owner to remodel the exterior of the existing buildings

1978
03:14:11,500 --> 03:14:15,560
and complete other site-related improvements at the Carme de Plaza North Chopping Center.

1979
03:14:15,660 --> 03:14:21,100
Look at that 133, 2, 1 through 133, 4, 9, or 10, or 10, or 10, or 10, or 10, or 10,

1980
03:14:21,100 --> 03:14:24,680
and 303 company to road, so we just call for nine of seven of three.

1981
03:14:24,800 --> 03:14:27,700
So site is zoned neighborhood commercial,

1982
03:14:28,800 --> 03:14:36,980
CN, APN, 7000, 8-015-002, 7000, 8-015-003,

1983
03:14:36,980 --> 03:14:43,540
and 7000, 8-015-004, inclusive of the amendments noted

1984
03:14:43,540 --> 03:14:46,300
by the city attorney, just a bit of go.

1985
03:14:46,300 --> 03:14:52,600
also add that this is also the amendment that I made is also in conformance with the

1986
03:14:52,600 --> 03:14:57,220
three doses of municipal code, 23-50-200,

1987
03:14:59,500 --> 03:14:59,920
some division.

1988
03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:04,660
We'll go ahead and vote.

1989
03:15:10,450 --> 03:15:21,870
Motion passes on a four to zero vote. Congratulations to the property owners. We're very excited about this new development. Thank you so very much. Thank you. Thank you.

1990
03:15:22,450 --> 03:15:26,530
Thank you for staying so late. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

1991
03:15:27,450 --> 03:15:32,870
Moving on to nine a, nine a, city manager, do we have a report on this item?

1992
03:15:32,870 --> 03:15:48,230
Yes, thank you. Madam Mayor members of the City Council. Item 9A comes to you in response to consensus direction provided by the City Council to explore and present information on a potential reserved parking program for veterans at various city facilities.

1993
03:15:48,890 --> 03:15:56,410
An overview of this item will be given by any health and director of community and cultural services and following her presentation. She and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

1994
03:15:56,410 --> 03:15:58,550
Thank you, Mr. Lopez.

1995
03:15:58,870 --> 03:16:01,610
Good evening, honorable mayor and members of the City Council.

1996
03:16:02,450 --> 03:16:06,930
The City of Serritos has a proud tradition of honoring the service of United States

1997
03:16:06,930 --> 03:16:08,010
military veterans.

1998
03:16:08,850 --> 03:16:14,090
Providing reserved parking for veterans at city facilities would enhance the city's efforts

1999
03:16:14,090 --> 03:16:20,490
to recognize, celebrate, and support veterans and express a deep appreciation for their service.

2000
03:16:20,490 --> 03:16:28,330
The parking spaces would be offered as a courtesy, reflecting the community's appreciation for Veteran's service.

2001
03:16:29,150 --> 03:16:40,230
It is expected that non- Veteran community members will respect this designation and voluntarily refrain from using these spaces as a sign of shared gratitude.

2002
03:16:40,230 --> 03:16:51,610
The reserved parking program for veterans would consist of two conveniently located parking spaces designated with signs at major city facilities.

2003
03:16:53,810 --> 03:17:01,510
As displayed on the slide, staff has designed a veterans parking only sign that would be installed at the designated parking spaces.

2004
03:17:01,510 --> 03:17:08,510
The veterans parking only spaces would be designated at the following locations as shown on the slides.

2005
03:17:10,530 --> 03:17:21,610
The Cerritos Civic Center, Cerritos Center for the Performing Arts, Cerritos Olympic Swim Fitness Center, Cerritos Park East,

2006
03:17:23,230 --> 03:17:28,110
Cerritos Senior Center at Patton X and Park, Cerritos Sports Complex,

2007
03:17:29,570 --> 03:17:35,270
Heritage Park, Ironwood Nine Golf Course, and Liberty Park.

2008
03:17:36,130 --> 03:17:41,210
A vendors estimate to produce the signs, including the hardware and printing of the

2009
03:17:41,210 --> 03:17:49,310
custom design, is $2,654.20. The public works departments maintenance division staff

2010
03:17:49,310 --> 03:17:53,070
would install the signs. Funds are available in the cities

2011
03:17:58,950 --> 03:18:13,230
It is recommended that the city council review and discuss the feasibility of implementing a reserve parking program for veterans at city facilities and receive public comment and direct staff accordingly.

2012
03:18:14,010 --> 03:18:18,190
This concludes my report and staff would be happy to answer any questions at this time.

2013
03:18:18,190 --> 03:18:19,970
Thank you, Annie, for the report.

2014
03:18:20,350 --> 03:18:21,930
Do we have any questions from the City Council?

2015
03:18:23,270 --> 03:18:23,830
Yes, please.

2016
03:18:24,490 --> 03:18:25,250
Hi, thank you, Mayor.

2017
03:18:25,930 --> 03:18:29,110
My question is, this is like an owner system, right?

2018
03:18:29,110 --> 03:18:30,670
Because this is not like handicap.

2019
03:18:31,350 --> 03:18:34,750
You don't have the license or you don't have any hand tag.

2020
03:18:34,890 --> 03:18:36,570
You don't, they don't require that.

2021
03:18:36,690 --> 03:18:37,270
Am I right?

2022
03:18:37,750 --> 03:18:38,530
That is correct.

2023
03:18:38,670 --> 03:18:42,950
This would be considered courtesy parking and it would be on an honor system.

2024
03:18:43,170 --> 03:18:47,410
We would expect that community members would be happy to show their

2025
03:18:48,910 --> 03:18:54,230
appreciation to veterans and allow only veterans to park in those spaces.

2026
03:18:55,130 --> 03:19:00,410
And if I could add as well, the Home Depot and Lowe's City of Paramount City of Norwalk

2027
03:19:00,410 --> 03:19:02,910
do the same as well, where it's an honor system.

2028
03:19:03,630 --> 03:19:10,690
And I just hope that you know, the honor system work, because I'm worried about like maybe

2029
03:19:10,690 --> 03:19:16,230
I don't want to have a creative and the argument or, you know, about this space in the future.

2030
03:19:16,230 --> 03:19:22,130
I do like this kind of proposal I think it's very important for our CD and it's a very

2031
03:19:22,130 --> 03:19:30,010
honorable to is a appreciation for all the VA's, I would just worry about if they couldn't

2032
03:19:30,010 --> 03:19:35,530
get to their spot and they're like, oh, the one, how you prove it, you know, so this is basically

2033
03:19:35,530 --> 03:19:37,150
just honorable system.

2034
03:19:37,150 --> 03:19:38,130
Okay.

2035
03:19:40,400 --> 03:19:41,500
Any other questions?

2036
03:19:43,020 --> 03:19:43,180
Mark?

2037
03:19:46,500 --> 03:19:48,640
So I like this idea.

2038
03:19:49,960 --> 03:19:52,620
And I'm counting a total of 18 spaces.

2039
03:19:53,840 --> 03:19:58,060
No, 16 spaces at eight city facilities.

2040
03:20:00,100 --> 03:20:02,800
And if you take a look at the location of these spots,

2041
03:20:03,160 --> 03:20:04,560
this is pre-mo parking.

2042
03:20:04,560 --> 03:20:16,120
This is, this is like steps away from the front door, I think this was really a nice way to say thank you to our veterans.

2043
03:20:19,920 --> 03:20:27,900
I really think whoever came up with this idea, I think this was this your idea, Madam Mayor.

2044
03:20:27,900 --> 03:20:34,240
Thank you. Thank you. And to the staff who who put time and effort into this, um,

2045
03:20:35,100 --> 03:20:40,220
on beyond, there's a lot of veterans in our community. I mean, that's part of our heritage here.

2046
03:20:40,560 --> 03:20:51,020
It probably as much as, uh, we have the dairy heritage of Serritos. Once it built all the houses,

2047
03:20:51,160 --> 03:20:57,480
there were so many veterans who moved here. Um, so there are a lot of sons and daughters of veterans,

2048
03:20:57,480 --> 03:21:09,100
and also veterans who have moved here, knowing how much this city is supportive of our veterans

2049
03:21:09,100 --> 03:21:19,780
and how patriotic events are held here that really express our gratitude to our veterans.

2050
03:21:21,940 --> 03:21:25,180
So this is just a continuation of that effort.

2051
03:21:25,180 --> 03:21:36,980
With that many potential veterans wanting to utilize these spaces, there's only handful of spaces.

2052
03:21:38,300 --> 03:21:46,420
I would highly suggest that we look into something that is very low cost to put on the vehicles.

2053
03:21:46,980 --> 03:21:54,520
you know, some type of a sticker that is unique. I can't imagine that would be too expensive.

2054
03:21:55,360 --> 03:22:01,180
I'm not talking about a placard, you know, that one might use, you know, for handicaps faces,

2055
03:22:02,460 --> 03:22:08,120
but maybe a sticker, just something like that. I think there might be some pride in,

2056
03:22:13,480 --> 03:22:14,400
you know,

2057
03:22:15,700 --> 03:22:21,580
Councilmember Hong mentioned it might prevent any arguments.

2058
03:22:22,460 --> 03:22:23,620
Is that the point that you're making earlier?

2059
03:22:24,180 --> 03:22:24,380
Yes.

2060
03:22:24,820 --> 03:22:26,040
What are you about if that's all?

2061
03:22:26,700 --> 03:22:27,620
No one would want that.

2062
03:22:27,720 --> 03:22:29,980
I mean, that's, you know, that kind of defeat stuff.

2063
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:59,060
The whole purpose of honoring our veterans. And yeah, you know, we could try on honor system, but then there's going to be some people who are dishonorable and they're going to take advantage of that. And then once they get used to doing that, then it becomes the custom. And then really who's going to regulate that? But if from the outset, we demonstrate to our veterans that, yes, hey, we have this come. And you know, simply register.

2064
03:23:01,020 --> 03:23:09,740
I don't know, we have so many, all of these facilities should, you know, have the ability

2065
03:23:09,740 --> 03:23:16,620
to, if the veteran comes in, hey, can I saw that there's veteran parking out front

2066
03:23:16,620 --> 03:23:21,980
out of the way of all of that, and they said, well, here, fill this out, or do it on the

2067
03:23:21,980 --> 03:23:29,600
app, something simple like that, and here's a sticker, slap this on your bumper, your

2068
03:23:29,600 --> 03:23:42,440
bumper. Those are my thoughts so that we don't have unintended consequences of a great idea.

2069
03:23:44,020 --> 03:23:51,860
So I'm sure that we could come up with something very low cost to put on. And if not the bumper

2070
03:23:51,860 --> 03:24:02,960
Maybe, you know, like how you put parking permits on the lower, lower corner of your windshield, something like that.

2071
03:24:03,000 --> 03:24:04,580
Maybe even a tag on the rear.

2072
03:24:05,000 --> 03:24:06,180
Yeah, something like that.

2073
03:24:06,980 --> 03:24:07,580
Yeah.

2074
03:24:07,960 --> 03:24:08,720
That's my suggestion.

2075
03:24:09,120 --> 03:24:09,840
Thank you.

2076
03:24:10,060 --> 03:24:11,700
So I do have a question.

2077
03:24:11,920 --> 03:24:13,980
Now that Mayor Proton brought it up.

2078
03:24:14,000 --> 03:24:21,620
Certainly we can institute a program where they would have to register as simple as providing your

2079
03:24:21,620 --> 03:24:28,600
CD-2-14, any veteran knows what that is, Commissioner Reyes, absolutely knows what that is,

2080
03:24:29,040 --> 03:24:30,560
to show your status as a veteran.

2081
03:24:31,460 --> 03:24:36,140
But then what happens then if there are members of the community, members that are outside

2082
03:24:36,140 --> 03:24:46,180
of the community, that are visiting our facilities, I don't know, can I don't know, I don't

2083
03:24:46,180 --> 03:24:48,460
know what to, how we would solve that.

2084
03:24:48,460 --> 03:24:57,840
I not seen it on any other locations such as Norwalk, Paramount, Home Depot, Lowe's. It really is an honor system.

2085
03:24:58,920 --> 03:25:09,160
I don't anticipate folks would be this honorable. That would be so bad. I mean, how could you say you're a veteran and you're not?

2086
03:25:09,780 --> 03:25:19,540
What we can do is, of course, if we become aware of an issue where someone's parking in that space and we understand that out of veteran, staff can address it with that patron.

2087
03:25:20,780 --> 03:25:31,140
And if there seems to be an issue with regard to compliance, we can come up with the system to try to identify them internally to figure out what that could look like.

2088
03:25:31,300 --> 03:25:37,260
And in the meantime, if you can please contact the city managers over at Norwalk and Paramount and see if they've had that kind of issue.

2089
03:25:37,260 --> 03:25:47,600
Thanks. Are there any other questions? Yes. Yes, please. One comment is I think I saw

2090
03:25:48,520 --> 03:25:52,260
at BJ's Serritos. They have Veterans Parking.

2091
03:25:55,400 --> 03:25:59,260
On the north side of the restaurant.

2092
03:25:59,260 --> 03:26:07,060
And then also, you know, this is a great idea, let's not let, you know, the perfect

2093
03:26:07,060 --> 03:26:08,760
be the enemy of the good.

2094
03:26:09,460 --> 03:26:13,960
We don't have to worry about every possibility today.

2095
03:26:14,160 --> 03:26:17,740
We just need to get our veterans,

2096
03:26:20,540 --> 03:26:27,380
the goal of this proposal, preferred parking to thank them

2097
03:26:27,380 --> 03:26:32,220
their service and if we need to tweak it in the future, we tweak it in the future, that's not

2098
03:26:32,220 --> 03:26:40,520
let it perfect be the enemy of the good. Thank you, Councilmember Yokoyama. Yes, I do agree with that.

2099
03:26:40,700 --> 03:26:45,820
For that, I think we can try it. I'm here. We really facing some problem. Then we deal with it.

2100
03:26:46,160 --> 03:26:50,040
But I do like this idea and I think this is a great idea. Thank you.

2101
03:26:51,220 --> 03:26:54,260
Right. If we don't have any other questions, I'll open up for public comments.

2102
03:26:57,020 --> 03:27:01,340
Okay, let me see if we have any that signed in.

2103
03:27:04,470 --> 03:27:07,250
Commissioner Reyes, thank you.

2104
03:27:07,810 --> 03:27:10,830
And Deborah, afterwards, thank you.

2105
03:27:11,750 --> 03:27:12,510
Thank you for staying.

2106
03:27:13,930 --> 03:27:14,450
Kidney thing.

2107
03:27:14,610 --> 03:27:15,410
I'm Mary Johnson.

2108
03:27:16,150 --> 03:27:17,250
Mary Pro Tempulito.

2109
03:27:17,850 --> 03:27:18,490
Council members.

2110
03:27:19,730 --> 03:27:20,510
And Yokuyama.

2111
03:27:21,190 --> 03:27:21,430
Good evening.

2112
03:27:21,530 --> 03:27:25,490
Also just staff, audience, and the people watching this meeting on television.

2113
03:27:25,490 --> 03:27:31,690
in social media. My name is Armin Reyes, I'm a resident of Serritos, and I come before you to

2114
03:27:31,690 --> 03:27:37,570
speak in favor of item 9A under new and old business. Item 9A, as I've been discussed,

2115
03:27:38,570 --> 03:27:43,950
is the review and consideration of the facility of implementing a research parking program

2116
03:27:43,950 --> 03:27:50,710
for veterans at the city facilities. As a veteran and a retired user on personnel, I support

2117
03:27:50,710 --> 03:27:56,230
this proposal, and thank you Mayor Yulinda, knowing that it came from you based on your

2118
03:27:56,230 --> 03:28:02,530
concept of conversation with the Muslim and Polito. And I support this proposal for the

2119
03:28:02,530 --> 03:28:09,910
following reasons. Mainly, it shows that our city, this community, appreciate and recognize

2120
03:28:09,910 --> 03:28:12,250
the services of veterans like I mentioned.

2121
03:28:14,410 --> 03:28:18,210
And secondly, it offers convenience to all the veterans

2122
03:28:18,210 --> 03:28:24,510
and veterans with minor mobility challenges who may not qualify for a official state handicap

2123
03:28:24,510 --> 03:28:25,390
placard.

2124
03:28:25,790 --> 03:28:32,970
So people have been hurt but that enough to be disabled or older veterans that that's

2125
03:28:32,970 --> 03:28:37,230
qualified for a handicap, that will be a great help for them also.

2126
03:28:37,910 --> 03:28:43,370
And of course there are challenges as this doesn't implement this proposal, namely enforcement,

2127
03:28:43,370 --> 03:28:50,770
How can law enforcement and or code enforcers distinguish vehicles on an operative

2128
03:28:50,770 --> 03:28:51,270
veterans?

2129
03:28:51,650 --> 03:28:57,050
And like a muscle memory, I almost said, I mean, let's do it when it becomes a problem.

2130
03:28:57,810 --> 03:29:02,370
And secondly, even among the veteran communities, there are certain means and opinions of veterans

2131
03:29:02,370 --> 03:29:08,770
regarding this issue, there are mixed, some actively used them, and some clearly refused

2132
03:29:08,770 --> 03:29:13,350
to use them to avoid unwanted detention, because some of the veterans don't want to be

2133
03:29:13,350 --> 03:29:16,550
recognize the veterans or, you know, to be questioned as such.

2134
03:29:17,310 --> 03:29:21,570
And the end speaking as an individual representing my own opinion

2135
03:29:21,570 --> 03:29:25,410
on this matter, I wholeheartedly support this proposal,

2136
03:29:26,170 --> 03:29:28,410
because of some broad member of this community.

2137
03:29:29,330 --> 03:29:32,170
I am proud that our city is going above and beyond

2138
03:29:32,170 --> 03:29:34,430
to honor and recognize the veterans.

2139
03:29:35,230 --> 03:29:38,050
Whether to serve part and space is utilized or not.

2140
03:29:38,870 --> 03:29:41,250
It is a very visible and daily reminder

2141
03:29:41,250 --> 03:29:47,090
to our veterans and their families that our city, the City of Surveillance, it's leaders and

2142
03:29:47,090 --> 03:29:53,010
community members appreciate and honor us of veterans. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you commissioner

2143
03:29:53,010 --> 03:29:55,430
raise and thank you for your service to our nation.

2144
03:29:57,740 --> 03:29:59,800
Are there any, oh yeah, Deborah Barry.

2145
03:30:04,590 --> 03:30:13,890
Hi. Thank you. Everybody loves our veterans. Everybody wants a supporter of veterans. I don't know any American who wouldn't say, yeah, let's support our veterans.

2146
03:30:14,590 --> 03:30:25,430
But it's these little things like this. These pandering to the veterans, because we want to make sure we look better things that cost money. So only it's only $2,000. We have an under budget.

2147
03:30:25,430 --> 03:30:29,890
What about all the staff time to make this presentation, how much did that cost?

2148
03:30:30,610 --> 03:30:34,870
How much is it going to cost to install those $2,000 worth of science?

2149
03:30:35,370 --> 03:30:35,890
For what?

2150
03:30:36,870 --> 03:30:39,130
We know people are going to park in those spots.

2151
03:30:39,830 --> 03:30:45,470
It's just another dog and pony show to make you look better for everybody.

2152
03:30:45,910 --> 03:30:49,070
When it doesn't do anything and it waste everybody's time.

2153
03:30:49,590 --> 03:30:53,450
All of this nickel and diamond adds up to budget deficits.

2154
03:30:54,150 --> 03:30:56,510
You want to find out why you have a budget deficit?

2155
03:30:56,990 --> 03:30:58,830
It's the $2,000 signs.

2156
03:30:59,590 --> 03:31:02,610
It's the thousands of dollars in wasted staff time.

2157
03:31:02,950 --> 03:31:04,810
I'm sure if you asked any one of your staff,

2158
03:31:05,190 --> 03:31:08,670
they don't want to be wasting their times on these types of projects

2159
03:31:08,670 --> 03:31:11,090
when they have more important things to do.

2160
03:31:11,610 --> 03:31:13,470
We have real issues in the city,

2161
03:31:13,750 --> 03:31:16,510
and it is now 10.30.

2162
03:31:18,230 --> 03:31:20,170
That I've had to wait to speak to an item

2163
03:31:20,170 --> 03:31:22,290
because we do things like this.

2164
03:31:22,290 --> 03:31:29,130
This is the kind of stuff that is mismanaged, because as you guys don't focus on the real issues,

2165
03:31:29,510 --> 03:31:33,130
you focus on all of this fluff that means nothing.

2166
03:31:33,690 --> 03:31:40,710
So a few people feel good when they leave, but it does nothing to improve the lives of the citizens in this city.

2167
03:31:41,110 --> 03:31:46,530
We know darn well that those parking spots will be used by whoever shows up,

2168
03:31:46,670 --> 03:31:48,850
especially at the park when there's limited parking.

2169
03:31:48,850 --> 03:31:54,330
What about all the other people that need a part close, pregnant women, right?

2170
03:31:54,430 --> 03:31:59,150
The family with five kids that are at the park that are trying to shuffle around and now

2171
03:31:59,150 --> 03:31:59,830
all right.

2172
03:32:00,150 --> 03:32:00,630
You know what I mean?

2173
03:32:00,890 --> 03:32:03,830
We have services for people that are disabled.

2174
03:32:03,830 --> 03:32:08,470
We have dialeride that will take you to the front door, right?

2175
03:32:09,050 --> 03:32:11,090
This is not solving any problems.

2176
03:32:11,530 --> 03:32:14,270
This is so you can feel good.

2177
03:32:14,670 --> 03:32:17,070
You can go home and say like, oh, I did something.

2178
03:32:17,070 --> 03:32:29,230
You didn't do anything. It's all fluff. Stop wasting time. Stop wasting money. It's all these little things that adds up to the problems that you have. Thank you.

2179
03:32:37,760 --> 03:32:56,080
I'm the daughter of a Navy veteran and a mother of a US Marine captain. I do this for them. My many veterans have combat related service related disabilities.

2180
03:32:56,080 --> 03:33:02,510
And like Commissioner Reyes says, do not qualify for a disability placard with my job as

2181
03:33:03,100 --> 03:33:08,840
L.A. County deputy on military veterans affairs to connect our veterans with services

2182
03:33:08,840 --> 03:33:17,480
to get rated and receive benefits. So I know the toll and the cost of serving and defending our nation.

2183
03:33:18,980 --> 03:33:23,370
Do we have any other? Do we have a comment? Some Cindy written us?

2184
03:33:23,370 --> 03:33:26,070
we call this Colin Speakers.

2185
03:33:26,670 --> 03:33:27,030
Thank you, Mayor.

2186
03:33:27,070 --> 03:33:28,390
We have none at this time.

2187
03:33:28,570 --> 03:33:29,650
Thank you.

2188
03:33:29,930 --> 03:33:32,690
We do have folks that wrote in.

2189
03:33:33,710 --> 03:33:38,110
I am going to acknowledge those that wrote in because they have served our nation.

2190
03:33:39,210 --> 03:33:39,550
Former.

2191
03:33:40,250 --> 03:33:42,510
L.A. County supervisor of the fourth district.

2192
03:33:42,650 --> 03:33:43,990
Don Kanabi and former mayor.

2193
03:33:44,010 --> 03:33:46,210
City of Serritos is in support of this item.

2194
03:33:46,630 --> 03:33:48,350
Thank you, Don, for your service.

2195
03:33:48,370 --> 03:33:49,730
United States Navy.

2196
03:33:50,570 --> 03:33:59,110
Colleen Aldrich, her husband Gary, served as country for four years, the United States Air Force, served in El Canawa and in Vietnam.

2197
03:34:00,230 --> 03:34:06,010
An arrest and supply mission, flying to areas where soldiers had been shot down.

2198
03:34:06,530 --> 03:34:19,230
Gary is one of the, maybe I shouldn't say because it's Hippa, but I do know that Gary receives benefits from the military veterans affairs and recently suffered a stroke.

2199
03:34:19,230 --> 03:34:24,410
And is now homebound, but he and his wife are in support of this item.

2200
03:34:24,510 --> 03:34:26,730
So thank you, Gary, for your service.

2201
03:34:26,810 --> 03:34:30,550
United States Air Force, Marty and Gayle Grossman.

2202
03:34:31,390 --> 03:34:36,810
Gayle Marty Grossman served in the United States Army from 1967 to 1969.

2203
03:34:37,250 --> 03:34:41,910
Station in the DMZ of Korea, defending our country from attacks on our bases.

2204
03:34:43,230 --> 03:34:52,410
And he too, what do you call this is, served our nation, defended our country, and thank

2205
03:34:52,410 --> 03:35:01,250
you, Marty for your service, United States Army, and Sue Carter also is in very much

2206
03:35:01,250 --> 03:35:07,930
support of our signed programs, so thank you, Sue, for writing in.

2207
03:35:12,290 --> 03:35:14,530
Do we have any other comments, I'll close?

2208
03:35:14,590 --> 03:35:14,910
Yes.

2209
03:35:14,910 --> 03:35:43,550
Go ahead. Oh, thank you. I mean, I'll close public comments. Okay. I'll close public comments. Go ahead and bring comments back to the council. Yeah. Thank you Mayor Johnson. So just to be clear to the 48,000 300 residents of Serritos. I am 100% in support. 100% in support of thanking the veterans.

2210
03:35:44,910 --> 03:35:52,330
of our city of Serritos and those visiting our city of Serritos, just like this past Saturday,

2211
03:35:53,090 --> 03:36:02,790
we think our active military at our first C.E.B. monthly, meritorious marine recognition,

2212
03:36:03,630 --> 03:36:12,450
monthly ceremony, the city of Serritos has, for decades, had a tradition of recognizing

2213
03:36:12,450 --> 03:36:19,710
and thanking our veteran community, our veteran residents, our active military residents, they

2214
03:36:19,710 --> 03:36:32,090
matter this agenda item 100% matters. And it's disheartening to see members of our city saying

2215
03:36:32,090 --> 03:36:41,290
that this doesn't matter, that it's a waste, it's a waste, it's wasteful, it's not worthy

2216
03:36:41,290 --> 03:36:43,050
of the city of Serritos.

2217
03:36:46,110 --> 03:36:51,750
Those of you who clapped enthusiastically. Now you're not even looking

2218
03:36:51,750 --> 03:37:01,870
at me in the eye. There you guys are. You guys disrespected our veterans of our city who are

2219
03:37:01,870 --> 03:37:15,640
strong vibrant active community. This matters, this 100 percent matters. I support our residents.

2220
03:37:16,600 --> 03:37:24,760
I support our veterans 100 percent. Thank you, Mayor Linda. For championing championing this.

2221
03:37:24,760 --> 03:37:29,700
I support our veterans 100% thank you.

2222
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:42,340
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Armin Reyes for speaking. Thank you, Don Camp Canabi for speaking. Thank you, Sue Carter. Thank you, Gayle Grossman. Thank you, Colleen Aldrich for standing the veterans of our community.

2223
03:37:44,120 --> 03:37:57,480
Thank you. Council member Yokoyama, and also thank you to your father Tom Yokoyama for his service to our nation, as well as Mayor Protem Mark Polito to your father for defending our freedom. Thank you.

2224
03:37:58,820 --> 03:38:00,760
Uh, go ahead with comments.

2225
03:38:05,270 --> 03:38:18,850
So, um, proud, great grandson, grandson, son, son and law of veterans, and um,

2226
03:38:22,340 --> 03:38:26,140
five of them are dead, we're not here.

2227
03:38:27,600 --> 03:38:32,160
So I'm just glad to support this, you know, for those who are living,

2228
03:38:34,880 --> 03:38:35,680
so that I could

2229
03:38:35,680 --> 03:38:43,280
serve here and make decisions, and also so that all of us could have the freedoms that

2230
03:38:43,280 --> 03:38:43,900
we enjoy.

2231
03:38:47,020 --> 03:38:50,940
When I made the comments about, hey, you know, there's going to be some folks who

2232
03:38:50,940 --> 03:38:53,560
are going to take advantage of it.

2233
03:38:53,940 --> 03:38:56,060
That's a real concern that I have.

2234
03:38:56,520 --> 03:39:04,380
You know, I just, I hope that people will honor it, though I do understand that not

2235
03:39:04,380 --> 03:39:14,360
everyone honors veterans. And that's okay. That's that's a right to do so. But I could only control what I do.

2236
03:39:15,300 --> 03:39:25,160
And so this is the reason why I'm proud to support this. Just like before me, my dad led the effort against odds in this community

2237
03:39:25,160 --> 03:39:31,100
to establish that street of veterans memorial. And yeah, there were a lot of people who were against that veterans memorial.

2238
03:39:32,930 --> 03:39:37,010
They didn't want it out front. They wanted it in the back.

2239
03:39:39,490 --> 03:39:43,210
They didn't want to honor our veterans.

2240
03:39:44,550 --> 03:39:46,630
That's a real part of our heritage.

2241
03:39:47,230 --> 03:39:51,550
There are people who are supportive of our veterans and there's people who are not supportive of veterans

2242
03:39:51,550 --> 03:39:54,970
and they have that right too to voice that opinion.

2243
03:39:55,990 --> 03:40:01,970
And at that podium, people, yeah, I got up there and said they weren't in support of it.

2244
03:40:04,470 --> 03:40:10,690
But people voted me to represent, you know, what's in my heart and to do what's right.

2245
03:40:12,130 --> 03:40:17,810
So that's the reason why I support this. I don't see this as fluff. I see this as fundamental.

2246
03:40:20,830 --> 03:40:26,870
And I just hope that we get somehow get through this period. It's very difficult period

2247
03:40:27,910 --> 03:40:32,830
in our city's life. So we could get back to it. It's been reasonable.

2248
03:40:37,190 --> 03:40:42,410
and civil. That's all I have to say. Thank you.

2249
03:40:42,510 --> 03:40:44,570
Thank you, Mayor. Pro Tem, any other comments?

2250
03:40:46,590 --> 03:40:54,230
Yes, I understand what the last speaker's point of view. I understand everybody. All the racism.

2251
03:40:54,810 --> 03:41:00,790
Even myself is very sad about that we have to come back a lot of service and this kind of hurting

2252
03:41:00,790 --> 03:41:08,530
quality of life, but that's what Mayor used to say. This is a year that we have to try to get through.

2253
03:41:09,290 --> 03:41:16,650
And I know every dollar counts is all the text dollars, you know, payers money, but

2254
03:41:16,650 --> 03:41:24,510
because my respect for all the veterans, you know, even though it's going to cost cities of money, but I think

2255
03:41:24,510 --> 03:41:31,610
we should still pursue this one, although I know we're sacrificing not having the

2256
03:41:31,610 --> 03:41:36,250
concert at the night on the summer night, you know, I know there's a lot of

2257
03:41:36,250 --> 03:41:42,030
thing that we have a major budget deficit, but this is something I think I do

2258
03:41:42,030 --> 03:41:49,430
realize we do have a lot of veterans in our CDs, so for myself I will approve

2259
03:41:49,430 --> 03:41:55,190
this one, I would, you know, I would pro for this program because it's not a lot of money,

2260
03:41:55,350 --> 03:41:59,770
you know, everything is not, you know, like you say, why is having back at a calendar, everything,

2261
03:42:00,070 --> 03:42:06,890
but we have to save in some ways somehow. But for this, if we can benefit some of the veterans

2262
03:42:06,890 --> 03:42:13,970
and let them feel, they're so proud that, you know, our city really honored them and really appreciate

2263
03:42:13,970 --> 03:42:20,070
what they have done for our country. I think that would be worse while to spend this kind of money.

2264
03:42:20,770 --> 03:42:27,250
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? So I'm proud to champion this item.

2265
03:42:27,450 --> 03:42:34,430
It's been on my list since I was elected in 2022. So over the years I've had the privilege of working

2266
03:42:34,430 --> 03:42:39,650
alongside and building relationships with veterans and their families. During my time as deputy

2267
03:42:39,650 --> 03:42:45,530
for military and veteran affairs with Los Angeles County. I gained a deeper appreciation for the

2268
03:42:45,530 --> 03:42:51,550
sacrifices made by those who have served our nation. Honoring veterans has always been important

2269
03:42:51,550 --> 03:42:58,430
to our community each year. Serritos proudly recognizes veterans day, which we pay for.

2270
03:42:58,710 --> 03:43:03,750
Comes out of our general budget, and we come together to express our gratitude to those who have

2271
03:43:03,750 --> 03:43:13,350
the uniform, but more the uniform, some don't even come home. We also participate, participate in

2272
03:43:13,350 --> 03:43:19,010
Operation Greenlight, another initiative I championed in which we illuminate the infinity sculpture

2273
03:43:19,010 --> 03:43:24,590
at the sculpture garden with green lights, raising awareness in the sacrifices and challenges

2274
03:43:24,590 --> 03:43:31,990
of our nation's veterans. So I'm proud to champion the reserve veterans parking program. It is

2275
03:43:31,990 --> 03:43:38,770
simple, but meaningful way for our community express our gratitude and respect. A reserved

2276
03:43:38,770 --> 03:43:46,070
parking space may seem like a small gesture, but it sends a powerful message. Each and every

2277
03:43:46,070 --> 03:43:55,050
one of you in this room have benefited from a service member that fought for this country, each

2278
03:43:55,050 --> 03:44:03,090
every one of you and this is just a small gesture to say thank you so thank you to our city

2279
03:44:03,090 --> 03:44:13,210
staff council colleagues for your support and it's truly rewarding to see this become a reality

2280
03:44:13,210 --> 03:44:21,350
and proud to be a Seretals resident that in a city that honors our veterans so at this time

2281
03:44:21,350 --> 03:44:29,210
I'd like to make the motion to go ahead and approve item 9A, and I have a second from Mayor

2282
03:44:29,210 --> 03:44:31,030
Protem Mark Polito.

2283
03:44:36,140 --> 03:44:40,300
Motion passes. Thank you very much, Council colleagues, appreciate it.

2284
03:44:40,600 --> 03:44:44,460
All right, thank you Commissioner Reyes for your time and your service.

2285
03:44:45,060 --> 03:44:46,540
Thank you for your service, Armin.

2286
03:44:48,500 --> 03:44:53,480
All right, next up, we have item 9B, Corbus Herb Address Painting Program.

2287
03:44:54,500 --> 03:44:57,620
city manager do we have a report on this item thank you man

2288
03:44:57,620 --> 03:44:59,980
members of the city council this item also comes back to

2289
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:15,860
Thank you, and response to consensus direction that was given at a prior meeting. This is a proposal, a proposed program for consideration that would provide a mechanism to use outside funding for curb address painting throughout residential neighborhoods.

2290
03:45:16,440 --> 03:45:23,540
An overview of this item will be given by Chris Kubert, Acting Director of Public Works, and following his presentation he and I will be happy to answer any questions.

2291
03:45:24,940 --> 03:45:28,780
Thank you, City Manager Lopez, Honorable Mayor, Members of the City Council.

2292
03:45:29,460 --> 03:45:34,840
Gen9, I'm nine B's for the review and consideration of a curb address painting program within the City of Street Us.

2293
03:45:35,640 --> 03:45:49,160
At the April 13th, 2026 City Council meeting, staff was directed to evaluate the feasibility of a curb address painting program performed by third party organizations on a voluntary charitable donation basis.

2294
03:45:49,160 --> 03:45:58,840
In response, public works developed proposed program, guidelines that establish clear standards for implementation, while protecting residents and city infrastructure.

2295
03:46:00,780 --> 03:46:09,220
Under the proposed program, providers will be required to paint entire streets or neighborhoods rather than only the homes of residents who chose to donate.

2296
03:46:10,120 --> 03:46:16,060
Participation and donations will be completely voluntary and homeowners would receive the service regardless of whether they contribute.

2297
03:46:16,060 --> 03:46:23,340
The guidelines also prohibits soliciting donations from anyone other than the property owner or authorized adult

2298
03:46:23,340 --> 03:46:29,460
representative helping sure the donation process is fair, transparent and not misleading.

2299
03:46:30,960 --> 03:46:36,380
The proposed guidelines also require providers to obtain a city business license and encroachment permit.

2300
03:46:36,380 --> 03:46:41,300
submit insurance and work plans for approval and comply with uniform painting standards.

2301
03:46:42,220 --> 03:46:45,500
Residents would be informed that providers are not affiliated with the city.

2302
03:46:46,300 --> 03:46:49,660
Written property owner permission is required before any curve is painted,

2303
03:46:50,300 --> 03:46:54,940
and any concerns regarding solicitors can be reported directly to the Department of Public Works.

2304
03:46:56,040 --> 03:47:02,480
There's no direct fiscal impact to the city as administrative costs would be recovered through the permit and business license fees

2305
03:47:02,480 --> 03:47:06,020
Well, third party providers would fund the campaigning services.

2306
03:47:06,800 --> 03:47:09,780
Staff recommends city council review and discuss the proposed guidelines,

2307
03:47:10,360 --> 03:47:13,020
receive public comment, and provide direction to staff.

2308
03:47:13,460 --> 03:47:15,780
This concludes my presentation and available for questions.

2309
03:47:16,300 --> 03:47:20,120
Thank you. Thank you, Chris, for the report. Do we have any questions from the council?

2310
03:47:23,540 --> 03:47:31,940
I have some comments. Thank you for city manager and Chris to work so hard on this things,

2311
03:47:31,940 --> 03:47:39,160
because I think this is important because nowadays most of us are having the, we all have online,

2312
03:47:39,580 --> 03:47:45,700
you know, we older a lot of stuff online and I've also feel like there's a lot of time

2313
03:47:45,700 --> 03:47:51,980
the service that always dropped the parcel or the package at the wrong address and I've noticed

2314
03:47:51,980 --> 03:47:59,700
that a lot of address number is already, when you can hardly read it and some of the house,

2315
03:47:59,700 --> 03:48:05,080
you know, they have to do it, put it up themselves, but all of them they don't even do it.

2316
03:48:05,180 --> 03:48:11,980
So I think for safety purpose and also for because of the online order, the package,

2317
03:48:12,180 --> 03:48:18,420
everything this is very important for the CD. And of course, it's even better that, you know,

2318
03:48:18,420 --> 03:48:25,280
we come out with the solution without having cost CD extra money. So I'm really appreciate that,

2319
03:48:25,280 --> 03:48:28,380
and our CD can work out on this project

2320
03:48:28,380 --> 03:48:31,420
and without costing, you know, a CD.

2321
03:48:34,410 --> 03:48:38,170
But if it's all after the resident,

2322
03:48:38,550 --> 03:48:40,370
if they want to contribute it,

2323
03:48:40,470 --> 03:48:42,890
they want to donate, it will be really appreciated.

2324
03:48:43,230 --> 03:48:47,150
But I think the address is very important for safety

2325
03:48:47,150 --> 03:48:50,290
and for your package delivery as well.

2326
03:48:50,650 --> 03:48:54,630
So please, I hope my console colloquial

2327
03:48:54,630 --> 03:48:58,590
I'll also support this project. Thank you.

2328
03:48:58,910 --> 03:48:59,930
Is there any other questions?

2329
03:49:01,990 --> 03:49:03,810
Okay. Go ahead.

2330
03:49:04,210 --> 03:49:05,190
Thanks, Mayor.

2331
03:49:07,880 --> 03:49:12,880
So how much is the non-refundable encroachment permit application going to be?

2332
03:49:13,820 --> 03:49:16,120
The encroachment permit is $570.

2333
03:49:21,460 --> 03:49:23,180
One time per year.

2334
03:49:24,080 --> 03:49:25,640
This would be one time per location.

2335
03:49:27,260 --> 03:49:27,840
Per business?

2336
03:49:28,620 --> 03:49:28,860
Correct.

2337
03:49:28,860 --> 03:49:30,000
That's one time per business.

2338
03:49:30,540 --> 03:49:35,860
Yes, that's the cost for encroachment permit for commercial businesses, non-residential.

2339
03:49:38,680 --> 03:49:43,660
We're going to require the providers to get an non-refundable encroachment permit application

2340
03:49:43,660 --> 03:49:50,500
so that they can go to our residents and offer these services to them for free.

2341
03:49:50,960 --> 03:49:53,080
Yes, with requesting a donation.

2342
03:49:53,560 --> 03:49:54,360
That is correct.

2343
03:49:54,940 --> 03:49:56,700
They are working in the public right of way.

2344
03:49:56,700 --> 03:50:02,640
So they have to get 500. They have to apply just to be able to ask the residents.

2345
03:50:04,000 --> 03:50:10,900
If I can paint your address on your curb for free, but if you can give me a donation,

2346
03:50:10,900 --> 03:50:15,520
if you want to, but you're not required to. And the paper where it's going to make it clear,

2347
03:50:15,700 --> 03:50:22,300
no payment is required. That is correct. They have to get an encroachment permit for $570.

2348
03:50:22,960 --> 03:50:28,380
Yes, along with the business. So like I said, it's at a one-time fee or an annual fee.

2349
03:50:28,380 --> 03:50:35,580
It's a one-time fee. Okay. Now the business license fee, how much is that?

2350
03:50:36,180 --> 03:50:38,640
I don't know that off the top of my head.

2351
03:50:43,160 --> 03:50:44,800
Give me one second. We can pull that up.

2352
03:50:44,880 --> 03:50:47,600
Okay, and that's an annual fee. That is correct.

2353
03:50:47,600 --> 03:50:53,320
So, these providers that were offering them,

2354
03:50:53,320 --> 03:50:59,000
hey, do you want to come to Serritos and provide our residents for free,

2355
03:51:02,610 --> 03:51:04,570
painting their addresses on the curb?

2356
03:51:05,750 --> 03:51:10,210
You have your required to tell them it's free, no payment required,

2357
03:51:10,770 --> 03:51:13,010
but you can donate money to me if you want.

2358
03:51:13,870 --> 03:51:17,710
They have to pay $570 in crotchman fee and then what's the annual fee?

2359
03:51:18,590 --> 03:51:31,050
For a contractor city business license, depending on the class for the contractor, for class A and C, for one year, it's 548 and for class B, it's 778 dollars.

2360
03:51:31,590 --> 03:51:33,650
So 548 or what?

2361
03:51:34,670 --> 03:51:36,650
778 for a class B.

2362
03:51:37,350 --> 03:51:46,910
So just to get in the door to offer free services to our residents, they have to either pay over $1100 to get an encroachment fee,

2363
03:51:46,910 --> 03:51:53,030
and a business license fee where they have to pay the business license every year or they have to pay

2364
03:51:54,130 --> 03:52:01,190
over $1,300. If they have to depending on if they pay the 548 or the 778 and annual

2365
03:52:01,190 --> 03:52:08,490
business license fee. So for somebody to start doing this in serritos where they're going to offer

2366
03:52:08,490 --> 03:52:18,510
are residents to paint their license numbers on the curb. That encroachment fee plus the annual

2367
03:52:18,510 --> 03:52:22,030
license fees over $1,100 or over $1,300.

2368
03:52:23,430 --> 03:52:24,670
Yes, they're that's correct.

2369
03:52:28,810 --> 03:52:29,970
They have to pay this before.

2370
03:52:30,000 --> 03:52:40,220
Or they can even solicit one customer, one resident to paint the license, paint the address on their curve.

2371
03:52:40,500 --> 03:52:43,700
Yes, sir. Okay. Now, the city is providing that for free right now, right?

2372
03:52:44,480 --> 03:52:47,820
The city does do it as requested by property owners.

2373
03:52:48,500 --> 03:52:52,120
So if the property owner requests it, the city would do it for free.

2374
03:52:53,000 --> 03:53:01,360
That is correct. The city does not charge residents for when these are done in response to individual needs.

2375
03:53:01,360 --> 03:53:04,540
There is a cost to the city in terms of material and labor.

2376
03:53:05,360 --> 03:53:08,320
The city workers do not ask for a donation.

2377
03:53:08,820 --> 03:53:09,620
That's correct.

2378
03:53:10,020 --> 03:53:15,600
They do go out there, do it for free because they do it as a city service.

2379
03:53:16,740 --> 03:53:23,220
And they do not get a donation or a tip from the resident.

2380
03:53:23,660 --> 03:53:24,000
That's correct.

2381
03:53:24,180 --> 03:53:26,480
The issue is that is it was one of scale.

2382
03:53:26,540 --> 03:53:31,420
There's a large scale need for widespread repenting of addresses.

2383
03:53:33,040 --> 03:53:36,620
And so this is one way of addressing that at a larger scale.

2384
03:53:37,000 --> 03:53:42,740
I will say the fees that were quoted are existing fees charged for commercial entities.

2385
03:53:42,900 --> 03:53:46,080
This is a program that is coming at the direction of the city council.

2386
03:53:46,080 --> 03:53:52,640
the City Council would like as part of this specific program, either a waiver of fees or a

2387
03:53:52,640 --> 03:53:56,660
lower fee amount can be assessed. We just can't go higher than existing fees.

2388
03:53:57,600 --> 03:54:03,080
So we can charge the businesses lower fees than that was quoted to me by Chris and Sabrina.

2389
03:54:03,560 --> 03:54:08,580
If this, yeah, the City Council would like to consider an alternative fee structure or

2390
03:54:08,580 --> 03:54:13,260
waiving fees just specifically for this program that can be the direction given.

2391
03:54:14,120 --> 03:54:22,320
Okay, so, well, has there been, has, has staff talked about what we think we're going to be charged.

2392
03:54:22,540 --> 03:54:28,880
We're going to be telling our residents as a reasonable donation for this service that they could otherwise get for free from the city.

2393
03:54:29,280 --> 03:54:36,060
If they caught which department of the city hall do they call to request the free campaigning of their address?

2394
03:54:36,060 --> 03:54:45,340
It's public works but our understanding is that there is a large skill need for this and it cannot be accommodated within current resources.

2395
03:54:46,240 --> 03:54:55,840
So we're backed up on the phone calls right now. We have too many residents that have called in the public works asking for this and we're backed up. How much are we backed up?

2396
03:54:55,840 --> 03:55:01,720
I'll see if Chris has a number as far as actual request received, but we've also observed many areas that are in need.

2397
03:55:01,880 --> 03:55:12,620
Well, I mean, I'm hearing you, Robert, but how much are we backed up on requests for curb painting of our addresses into public works? How much are we backed up?

2398
03:55:13,320 --> 03:55:18,540
We're not currently backed up. We do get a couple dozen I want to say a month.

2399
03:55:18,540 --> 03:55:23,520
and we do them. We do them usually within one to two weeks, but ultimately as a city

2400
03:55:23,520 --> 03:55:29,020
managed or stated, the need throughout the city outweighs our manpower and staffing ability

2401
03:55:29,020 --> 03:55:35,020
to complete the entire city. Here's some hearing what you're saying right now, but you're telling

2402
03:55:35,020 --> 03:55:42,180
me we get in a couple of dozen requests a week or a month. Usually a month. Okay, we get a couple

2403
03:55:42,180 --> 03:55:48,440
doesn't a month and we finish them. Right? That's, you know, in a reasonable amount of time.

2404
03:55:49,840 --> 03:55:55,560
So you guys are speculating about a need from the residents, but they're not asking for more

2405
03:55:55,560 --> 03:56:01,540
than a couple dozen a month. Are we going to force it on them to do it with these people that want

2406
03:56:01,540 --> 03:56:07,240
to charge them through a quote and quote donation when they can get it for free from the city?

2407
03:56:07,920 --> 03:56:09,840
No, we would not try to them.

2408
03:56:14,060 --> 03:56:15,160
Those are my questions for now.

2409
03:56:15,540 --> 03:56:18,380
I have questions kind of piggyback on council member Yokuyama.

2410
03:56:19,120 --> 03:56:21,160
From what I believe I read in the report,

2411
03:56:22,040 --> 03:56:28,500
if the business were to go out to paint a street of houses,

2412
03:56:29,220 --> 03:56:30,780
all the houses would have to be done.

2413
03:56:30,880 --> 03:56:33,280
Correct? You have to get approval from all the homes.

2414
03:56:33,560 --> 03:56:36,580
You don't just go out and do one or two homes on the street.

2415
03:56:36,580 --> 03:56:45,000
We would require the entity to do all homes within a defined area within a neighborhood.

2416
03:56:45,560 --> 03:56:47,760
They would be required to paint all the addresses.

2417
03:56:48,840 --> 03:56:53,220
They would be allowed to solicit donations from all the homes.

2418
03:56:53,540 --> 03:56:56,800
But there's no obligation from a homeowner to provide a donation.

2419
03:56:57,520 --> 03:57:03,420
So even if one resident wanted it done, you kind of got to get your neighbors to get on board, too.

2420
03:57:03,420 --> 03:57:06,160
We are aware that their entire neighborhoods that are in need of

2421
03:57:06,160 --> 03:57:08,160
repainting, even though the calls haven't come in,

2422
03:57:08,320 --> 03:57:10,840
we observe that there are needs throughout the city.

2423
03:57:11,920 --> 03:57:16,940
And how are the residents going to be notified,

2424
03:57:17,080 --> 03:57:19,180
door to door, or are there going to be mailed something?

2425
03:57:20,020 --> 03:57:22,060
We worked that out with a specific entity.

2426
03:57:23,060 --> 03:57:26,060
It would be appropriate to do a male and initial mailing,

2427
03:57:26,940 --> 03:57:29,980
as well as they can do a drop off of fire attached

2428
03:57:29,980 --> 03:57:33,340
to the front gate of the mailbox, as appropriate.

2429
03:57:33,340 --> 03:57:44,320
And we also plan to provide information to all residents that this is a, if adopted is a new program and so they can have it expect that it may be coming at some point in the future.

2430
03:57:45,500 --> 03:57:56,700
So, you know, our residents experience, you know, crime in our neighborhoods, they don't like answering doors to people that are unknown to them.

2431
03:57:56,700 --> 03:58:00,980
There are no solicitation signs at our residences.

2432
03:58:01,340 --> 03:58:04,360
I don't know how effective the program can be.

2433
03:58:04,900 --> 03:58:06,280
A mailing is a common approach.

2434
03:58:06,720 --> 03:58:11,660
I'm aware of some entities that will solicit donations and it'll send in the notice in the mail

2435
03:58:11,660 --> 03:58:13,600
ask you to leave something at the curb.

2436
03:58:14,460 --> 03:58:17,260
But what do people do with that mail? They toss it.

2437
03:58:17,940 --> 03:58:23,980
So what's going to happen if one of these providers that just paid

2438
03:58:24,880 --> 03:58:27,840
$1,300 to get their encroachment,

2439
03:58:30,240 --> 03:58:34,600
their encroachment, permit, application, and their business license,

2440
03:58:35,060 --> 03:58:40,520
and they pay $1,300, and they get assigned to do a street, and they do the street,

2441
03:58:40,820 --> 03:58:46,160
and none of the residents don't need. They just have to eat it, right? They just have to eat it.

2442
03:58:46,160 --> 03:58:53,260
They did all that work. They paid $1,300. There's no payment required. They're going to just go out there soliciting donations,

2443
03:58:54,160 --> 03:58:59,820
begging for donations and the residents have no obligation to give them anything and they're

2444
03:58:59,820 --> 03:59:03,500
potentially going to get nothing, right? And that's what this program is, right?

2445
03:59:04,780 --> 03:59:09,460
There's there would be a calculator risk. We would solicit feedback from those providers.

2446
03:59:10,020 --> 03:59:14,920
Are you going to tell them that potentially they can get nothing because they cannot require

2447
03:59:14,920 --> 03:59:19,720
your payment, it's donation only, and they required under this

2448
03:59:19,720 --> 03:59:24,020
curb address painting program guidelines, they're required to make it clear

2449
03:59:24,020 --> 03:59:25,660
that no payment is required.

2450
03:59:28,590 --> 03:59:31,770
That's correct, that it's not required for anyone to

2451
03:59:31,770 --> 03:59:35,920
provide payment. And we're asking our residents

2452
03:59:37,360 --> 03:59:42,260
who we've heard from in different contexts. We've heard our residents in different

2453
03:59:42,260 --> 03:59:46,880
contexts saying they can't afford things. And we're telling them now we want

2454
03:59:46,880 --> 03:59:55,600
of the pay. We want them to pay for address, painting on the curbs when it's a free service

2455
03:59:55,600 --> 03:59:59,000
from the city. It would be a way to do it.

2456
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:02,520
More expeditiously on a widespread skill.

2457
04:00:05,900 --> 04:00:13,440
I don't want the residents to say that I want them to pay for something now that they haven't had to pay for in the past.

2458
04:00:16,310 --> 04:00:17,190
That's my thought.

2459
04:00:19,140 --> 04:00:20,020
Any other questions?

2460
04:00:21,700 --> 04:00:26,820
Yeah, but this is a donation, right? They don't have to, and they're not going to knock at the door.

2461
04:00:28,400 --> 04:00:39,620
No, the requirement is that they can provide, you know, flyers or male information, but they'll provide information to the homeowners as to how to donate.

2462
04:00:39,940 --> 04:00:43,200
These days it would likely be typically done online with a QR code.

2463
04:00:44,020 --> 04:00:45,860
But no, it would be a donation, no obligation.

2464
04:00:46,460 --> 04:00:50,940
Is this entity have done this service to other CT as being successful?

2465
04:00:51,500 --> 04:00:55,740
Yes, we are aware of other cities that have, have the similar program.

2466
04:00:55,740 --> 04:01:02,060
I believe Braya is one that we've contacted that they've been able to achieve

2467
04:01:02,060 --> 04:01:04,400
care painting through this donation process.

2468
04:01:05,620 --> 04:01:06,520
Thank you.

2469
04:01:07,080 --> 04:01:08,740
So, Braya is doing this program.

2470
04:01:10,360 --> 04:01:10,620
What's correct?

2471
04:01:10,640 --> 04:01:11,940
Did you say any other cities?

2472
04:01:13,820 --> 04:01:17,060
The City of La Palma and LA County also offered the same program.

2473
04:01:17,600 --> 04:01:21,380
LA County unincorporated areas or throughout the entire LA County.

2474
04:01:22,260 --> 04:01:24,880
It's where LA County is.

2475
04:01:24,880 --> 04:01:31,100
unincorporated. Okay. So how much are they asking for in the donation solicitation piece of paper?

2476
04:01:31,120 --> 04:01:35,260
What's the amount of the donation that they're asking for? It doesn't specify.

2477
04:01:41,830 --> 04:01:47,350
Good evening, Councilman, Yokeama. I can go ahead and speak about the city of Braya.

2478
04:01:48,890 --> 04:01:56,230
I currently reside in the city of Braya and have taken advantage of a similar program twice in

2479
04:01:56,230 --> 04:02:02,750
over seven years. The solicitation is suggested and this is just a

2480
04:02:02,750 --> 04:02:07,870
C. Brea minimum of $5 donation, but you can certainly donate more if you wish.

2481
04:02:08,030 --> 04:02:11,850
You can donate less if you wish or you can donate nothing if you wish.

2482
04:02:13,930 --> 04:02:15,010
I can only

2483
04:02:15,010 --> 04:02:20,890
speak to Brea. I received a door tag initially informing me of the program.

2484
04:02:25,530 --> 04:02:26,210
I received

2485
04:02:26,210 --> 04:02:33,590
the date to which that they would be visiting my residential street and painting the curves

2486
04:02:33,590 --> 04:02:41,430
and the suggested donation of $5, and then that door tag included an envelope should you wish

2487
04:02:41,430 --> 04:02:47,350
to donate? And then two weeks later the date to which they came they collected the door tags

2488
04:02:47,350 --> 04:02:53,630
and painted the entire street, the entire neighborhood, whether you donated it or not.

2489
04:02:56,450 --> 04:03:01,650
So does the city of Braya provide the address painting on your curb as a free service?

2490
04:03:03,720 --> 04:03:05,440
I do not know the answer to that question.

2491
04:03:05,440 --> 04:03:06,360
She's in that significant.

2492
04:03:06,840 --> 04:03:12,240
That is significant, but I provided a nation and got my curb painted.

2493
04:03:13,820 --> 04:03:16,600
But we don't know if it's apples to apples or apples to oranges.

2494
04:03:17,940 --> 04:03:18,860
I do not know.

2495
04:03:20,670 --> 04:03:21,030
I don't know.

2496
04:03:21,030 --> 04:03:24,530
I'm just not so sure about somebody coming to my home.

2497
04:03:25,070 --> 04:03:25,510
Painting.

2498
04:03:26,550 --> 04:03:27,410
When I'm not there.

2499
04:03:27,410 --> 04:03:31,630
I don't want nobody know. I'm not there. That's all.

2500
04:03:32,170 --> 04:03:33,250
Any other comments?

2501
04:03:33,350 --> 04:03:40,750
What do you think Captain Strong, our deputy is having trouble finding the houses that they're supposed to go to on a call?

2502
04:03:44,770 --> 04:03:53,520
I have not heard of any issues of the deputies being unable to locate a residence based on what I say.

2503
04:03:53,720 --> 04:03:59,880
Faded paint or anything like that on the curb line. I haven't heard that, but they know the area very, very well.

2504
04:04:00,540 --> 04:04:08,040
Of course, it does help to see those curb lines, to see him painted often times we park a little bit for their way from their residents.

2505
04:04:08,660 --> 04:04:16,400
So it's nice to be able to see a nice bright address with that we can identify from far away as well for tactical reasons and things like that.

2506
04:04:17,060 --> 04:04:21,620
So I do like a nice painted curb for us to identify a location. It doesn't harm anything.

2507
04:04:22,640 --> 04:04:27,580
It's totally different from anything that you guys are talking about right now that you guys can make the decision on all on all that stuff.

2508
04:04:27,580 --> 04:04:30,720
but we do like to see the curbs for tactical purposes

2509
04:04:30,720 --> 04:04:34,460
plus, if somebody's injured inside the house,

2510
04:04:34,840 --> 04:04:37,380
or it's a medical emergency call that we're responding

2511
04:04:38,360 --> 04:04:40,300
to every second counts.

2512
04:04:40,480 --> 04:04:42,800
So if we can see a curb very well,

2513
04:04:43,220 --> 04:04:44,340
we can get there a little bit quicker

2514
04:04:44,340 --> 04:04:46,300
and help that person as well.

2515
04:04:46,620 --> 04:04:47,300
Thank you, Captain.

2516
04:04:48,240 --> 04:04:49,160
Good comments.

2517
04:04:50,060 --> 04:04:52,360
So given his comments about every second counts,

2518
04:04:52,360 --> 04:05:08,220
Do we have a robust, a robust program informing our residents of serritos that if they want their curb painted with their address, all they have to do is call public works.

2519
04:05:08,740 --> 04:05:18,620
How do, how are we letting our residents all of our 48,300 residents in our 15,000 plus households know that all they have to do is call public works?

2520
04:05:18,620 --> 04:05:23,360
And they will get their curb, the address being an under curb.

2521
04:05:23,760 --> 04:05:26,660
Chris said he only gets a few dozen calls a month.

2522
04:05:27,360 --> 04:05:33,200
We are not actively advertising that ability because we simply don't have the resources to do that.

2523
04:05:33,200 --> 04:05:37,880
If we did advertise widely, we would get, I'm sure we would get a lot of requests.

2524
04:05:38,900 --> 04:05:41,820
And we would not be able to fulfill those requests in a timely manner.

2525
04:05:42,580 --> 04:05:44,200
So right now it's simply reactive.

2526
04:05:44,200 --> 04:05:47,300
If a resident feels like their own address is not visible enough.

2527
04:05:47,300 --> 04:05:54,000
And they feel strongly enough to call in, they'll do so, and staff currently keeps the list and responds.

2528
04:05:54,660 --> 04:06:04,020
But we are aware of large areas of the city that don't have or they have faded address numbers that we don't have the resources to do at a large scale.

2529
04:06:04,340 --> 04:06:06,480
Currently, with the limited budget resources.

2530
04:06:07,260 --> 04:06:13,780
But Robert, we've cut back on capital improvement projects, some projects in public works.

2531
04:06:15,040 --> 04:06:23,400
Not saying that staff is not doing anything, but I'm sure there can be time carved out if we've cut back on projects.

2532
04:06:24,080 --> 04:06:29,200
So with the amount that we currently receive, we can work that in with a monthly schedule.

2533
04:06:31,460 --> 04:06:40,040
Excuse me, and accommodate that amount, but if we do receive a larger number, then there would be sort of a waiting list.

2534
04:06:40,320 --> 04:06:43,240
Like our existing pine tree program is a long waiting list.

2535
04:06:43,700 --> 04:06:47,060
Maybe we just kind of monitor it for now then.

2536
04:06:48,460 --> 04:06:51,820
If there's no other questions, I'll go ahead and open it up for public comments.

2537
04:06:53,260 --> 04:06:56,160
Public comments, do we have any? Yes, Catherine?

2538
04:07:05,150 --> 04:07:10,210
Good evening. I grew up in an incorporated elite county, so this is all very familiar to me.

2539
04:07:10,670 --> 04:07:15,090
We would get the tags and we would be asked for a donation.

2540
04:07:15,090 --> 04:07:22,390
I do know that I noticed on number five here, it's as it's only in the address, it's no

2541
04:07:22,390 --> 04:07:29,430
flags, military and signal, colleges, universities, sports teams.

2542
04:07:30,000 --> 04:07:39,560
Those extras are what get people to pay the donation. So my mom proudly has some universities that

2543
04:07:39,560 --> 04:07:47,220
her children attended on either side of her address on the curb. And so those are not donation

2544
04:07:47,220 --> 04:07:54,420
based, but you pay to get those extras put on there. I know ceritos likes to have things be very

2545
04:07:54,420 --> 04:07:59,540
uniform, but that is something to think about if you're worried about having the companies not

2546
04:07:59,540 --> 04:08:06,600
any money off of this. I am somebody who goes out door knocking a lot. I go out and deliver

2547
04:08:06,600 --> 04:08:12,220
political science to people. The addresses are very hard to see. People don't have consistent

2548
04:08:12,220 --> 04:08:18,640
house addresses on their homes. They don't necessarily have addresses at their mailboxes.

2549
04:08:19,140 --> 04:08:22,880
And so the curve is where you should be able to always find somebody's address.

2550
04:08:27,460 --> 04:08:28,380
And in

2551
04:08:28,380 --> 04:08:34,320
trying to explain is that we should be doing this on a cycle, but just like lots of other problems

2552
04:08:34,320 --> 04:08:40,600
in the city due to deferring maintenance for the past decade and a half, we've not done

2553
04:08:40,600 --> 04:08:47,060
this on a cycle, we've not kept up with it. If I needed my address painted, I would take a picture,

2554
04:08:47,200 --> 04:08:52,180
I'd upload it to the Serritos app and I'd get it taking care of because you guys are great

2555
04:08:52,180 --> 04:08:58,360
at taking care of things that people ask for. But it shouldn't be on a resident by resident

2556
04:08:58,360 --> 04:09:00,320
by resident basis to ask for that.

2557
04:09:00,320 --> 04:09:02,040
The efficient way to do it as a city

2558
04:09:02,040 --> 04:09:04,080
is to do a neighborhood at a time, right?

2559
04:09:04,360 --> 04:09:07,740
And so I think that outsourcing that makes a lot of sense

2560
04:09:07,740 --> 04:09:09,360
if we don't have the capacity to do it.

2561
04:09:09,400 --> 04:09:12,600
But I also hear what council member Yoke Amma is saying

2562
04:09:13,500 --> 04:09:16,360
by you're asking people to do some,

2563
04:09:16,360 --> 04:09:19,120
you're asking companies to pay a fee

2564
04:09:19,120 --> 04:09:22,560
to basically then provide a free service to residents

2565
04:09:22,560 --> 04:09:25,280
that we currently already provide for free,

2566
04:09:25,660 --> 04:09:27,720
like how does it make business model sense

2567
04:09:27,720 --> 04:09:30,520
for them to have to pay all these fees to be able to do it.

2568
04:09:31,080 --> 04:09:32,820
So maybe there's a way that we could do it

2569
04:09:32,820 --> 04:09:34,500
without the fees to the businesses

2570
04:09:34,500 --> 04:09:37,540
because they would really be doing us a favor

2571
04:09:37,540 --> 04:09:39,440
by taking care of this for them.

2572
04:09:39,860 --> 04:09:41,680
So I don't know if that was coherent,

2573
04:09:41,880 --> 04:09:42,660
but those are my thoughts.

2574
04:09:43,900 --> 04:09:44,580
Thank you, Katherine.

2575
04:09:44,780 --> 04:09:46,040
Is there anybody else?

2576
04:09:46,700 --> 04:09:47,120
Thank you.

2577
04:09:47,300 --> 04:09:48,020
Yeah, thank you.

2578
04:09:48,220 --> 04:09:49,180
Oh, that's probably not enough.

2579
04:09:49,320 --> 04:09:49,540
Is Cindy?

2580
04:09:49,820 --> 04:09:50,480
Sorry about that.

2581
04:09:50,620 --> 04:09:51,300
That's a problem.

2582
04:09:51,560 --> 04:09:52,920
Cindy, isn't anybody called?

2583
04:09:53,420 --> 04:09:55,240
No, I'd like to ask, Dan, this time, thank you.

2584
04:09:55,340 --> 04:09:57,360
And do we have any written comments on this item?

2585
04:09:57,360 --> 04:09:59,560
We did not receive any written comments on that.

2586
04:09:59,960 --> 04:10:00,380
Thank you.

2587
04:10:00,480 --> 04:10:02,040
Bring it back to the council for comments.

2588
04:10:02,580 --> 04:10:04,080
And I appreciate it.

2589
04:10:04,460 --> 04:10:05,540
The public speakers.

2590
04:10:06,860 --> 04:10:09,560
Thoughts on this issue.

2591
04:10:10,780 --> 04:10:13,220
Of curb address painting program.

2592
04:10:15,000 --> 04:10:17,780
But the fiscal impact on this.

2593
04:10:17,960 --> 04:10:22,360
States that the reason why there would not be a fiscal impact to the city is because

2594
04:10:22,360 --> 04:10:29,240
because the administrative costs of the program would be paid for by the encroachment permit application fees and the business license fees.

2595
04:10:29,820 --> 04:10:35,700
So if you reduce or get rid of the encroachment permit application fees and the business license fees,

2596
04:10:36,260 --> 04:10:42,000
then there will be a positive fiscal impact on the city because those fees are supposed to cover the administrative costs.

2597
04:10:43,730 --> 04:10:46,170
So, everybody else that'd like to comment,

2598
04:10:48,510 --> 04:10:51,430
all right? Are you going to comment? Is that correct?

2599
04:10:52,070 --> 04:10:55,290
So, what council member, Yoko Miyamoto?

2600
04:10:57,150 --> 04:11:01,150
Fees for encroachment permits are intended to cover these staff time involved.

2601
04:11:02,270 --> 04:11:05,610
They're already, they're currently is staff time involved in painting the curves.

2602
04:11:06,450 --> 04:11:14,290
So, if there is an interest in waving the fee to help make it more lucrative for the businesses involved in the painting,

2603
04:11:14,290 --> 04:11:21,290
that would not be a significant impact, there is an objective impact, but it would not be a significant one.

2604
04:11:23,270 --> 04:11:23,590
Thank you.

2605
04:11:24,330 --> 04:11:27,950
What is the dollar amount of not a significant impact?

2606
04:11:28,090 --> 04:11:33,990
I mean, we heard residents complaining about $2,000 just the previous agenda item.

2607
04:11:34,730 --> 04:11:40,270
So what amount are we talking about in costs for running this program?

2608
04:11:40,870 --> 04:11:57,050
The encroachment fee, I believe, was in the $500 or $700 range, and if we wave those fees but with the benefit of having, you know, widespread areas of curb address painting done, you know, it would be in my view of a good investment.

2609
04:11:57,430 --> 04:12:04,250
But that's per provider. How many providers are we thinking are we projecting estimating are going to be signing up for this program?

2610
04:12:05,330 --> 04:12:15,410
We will advertise. We'll start with those have already service other cities. And of course, depending on the demand, that'll tell us the number, it'll be a handful, like us.

2611
04:12:17,450 --> 04:12:19,050
Do we know anything about La Palma?

2612
04:12:20,710 --> 04:12:25,710
Did staff look into La Palma other than the fact that telling us that La Palma does this?

2613
04:12:26,130 --> 04:12:28,870
Did staff look into, it's been a month since our last meeting.

2614
04:12:29,410 --> 04:12:31,410
Did staff look into what La Palma is doing?

2615
04:12:31,410 --> 04:12:33,370
Yeah, staff reached out to the Pama.

2616
04:12:33,570 --> 04:12:39,310
We didn't get a substantial answer of requests and businesses

2617
04:12:39,310 --> 04:12:41,150
that are asking for the service.

2618
04:12:43,180 --> 04:12:48,120
Do they provide, that's a city of La Pama, provide address painting,

2619
04:12:48,440 --> 04:12:50,700
curb address painting for free to the residents?

2620
04:12:52,000 --> 04:12:53,560
I do not know that.

2621
04:12:58,030 --> 04:12:58,670
All right.

2622
04:12:59,590 --> 04:13:02,450
There are no further comments.

2623
04:13:03,170 --> 04:13:03,930
Go ahead and move forward.

2624
04:13:11,710 --> 04:13:29,890
I'd like to make a motion to approve it to have the consider a curb address painting program within the city of within our city because I think it's very important especially a lot of them at night time you try to find somebody's house

2625
04:13:29,890 --> 04:13:37,930
There's really no address, you know, on the door or, you know, side curve is really, you're guessing.

2626
04:13:39,070 --> 04:13:46,730
And I've noticed, on neighbors, they a lot of the time they, the service is in the package, they're wrong address all the time.

2627
04:13:47,050 --> 04:13:52,010
And I'm like, why, you know, and it's always sim address that they sent to the wrong place.

2628
04:13:52,290 --> 04:13:55,350
So I'm thinking, I went to check it out because of that reason.

2629
04:13:55,350 --> 04:14:00,990
So I'd like to make a motion and then hopefully I can have a second.

2630
04:14:07,340 --> 04:14:08,200
What is your motion?

2631
04:14:11,320 --> 04:14:19,080
My motion is what the CD manager proposed that we can have find the outside entity to help

2632
04:14:19,080 --> 04:14:25,200
to pin the curb for free and then we were sent out of the flyer to notice them if they

2633
04:14:25,200 --> 04:14:27,240
can do the free donation or not.

2634
04:14:27,240 --> 04:14:41,420
So, that the whole city's address could be all looking the same and the very I don't know how many years we'd have to do that I think this like five years or maybe not even five years, right?

2635
04:14:42,460 --> 04:14:55,640
We would work with perspective providers to do it as quickly as possible if it's we would start with one neighborhood and as a test case and learn from our experience there, but continue to offer that

2636
04:14:55,640 --> 04:14:59,980
throughout the city and we'd be able to judge after the first.

2637
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:02,580
Anywhere had to judge who have quickly the whole city can be covered?

2638
04:15:03,400 --> 04:15:08,640
Right. So I would think that this is worse why if just like we were talking about for safety

2639
04:15:08,640 --> 04:15:14,920
purpose, for a violent man, fire truck, when they want to find the address, it would be easier

2640
04:15:14,920 --> 04:15:21,700
for them. Of course, I think they know where to go, but it would be very important for the

2641
04:15:21,700 --> 04:15:31,700
caring people to find the address or maybe a call for a ride, die of a ride to make sure

2642
04:15:31,700 --> 04:15:37,840
because I do call before and they couldn't find my address and they have to go find the

2643
04:15:37,840 --> 04:15:43,920
neighbors address in order to get my house. So I've noticed because the address is kind of

2644
04:15:43,920 --> 04:15:51,140
faded. So I've been for that and I also receive a lot of residents asking if this

2645
04:15:51,140 --> 04:15:56,160
possible we can have the city to do that. And I say, well, we were under the budget

2646
04:15:56,800 --> 04:16:03,220
constraints. So if we can find out the better way, we were trying to do it to provide

2647
04:16:03,220 --> 04:16:09,740
this kind of service to make our city look very clear for all the address.

2648
04:16:09,860 --> 04:16:14,240
You said you said you heard from a lot of residents. What did you hear from a lot of residents?

2649
04:16:14,240 --> 04:16:22,220
I have, you know, I went to a church with, I joined a lot of organization and I do have people like,

2650
04:16:22,240 --> 04:16:29,660
oh, can you ask the CD if they find out there are a lot of addresses. It's not showing very clearly.

2651
04:16:30,420 --> 04:16:36,320
So, they were saying, is it possible that we can find out a way to get this address repent?

2652
04:16:36,780 --> 04:16:40,940
And I think if we can do it, you know, we should provide it.

2653
04:16:40,940 --> 04:16:58,200
Residence is up to you. You want to donate. You can donate if you don't feel like it. You don't have to. You know, so and business person. I think you can ask for maybe a little bit less of money and everybody contribute a lot a little bit that would work out.

2654
04:16:58,600 --> 04:16:59,860
So that's my proposal.

2655
04:16:59,860 --> 04:17:10,120
You said that a lot of residents have asked you about this. Did they know that the city provides it for free?

2656
04:17:11,240 --> 04:17:18,760
They don't know. Unfortunately, and they're frustrated to ask because they've been waiting for the tree removal or whatever.

2657
04:17:19,100 --> 04:17:25,860
They've been on the waiting list for four years. So they're like, no, I'm not going to try it because they got frustrated.

2658
04:17:25,860 --> 04:17:42,780
And a lot of them are not really, you know, they don't want to, they don't even know how to get online to apply it to be honest with you because there will you have some senior residents, they're not really that high tech person.

2659
04:17:43,420 --> 04:17:50,740
So anyway, they were just making a really strong suggestion that they'd be talking about this over a year.

2660
04:17:50,740 --> 04:17:53,340
and I was trying to say, hey, we really

2661
04:17:53,340 --> 04:17:55,220
the city really have a bunch of issues.

2662
04:17:56,260 --> 04:18:02,720
So I was asking the manager and to find out

2663
04:18:02,720 --> 04:18:06,160
is there a better way and solution that can help this out?

2664
04:18:06,360 --> 04:18:08,180
I know this is not a major issue.

2665
04:18:08,360 --> 04:18:10,960
I don't want to cost too much of everybody's time,

2666
04:18:11,200 --> 04:18:13,160
but I'm just saying if we can do it,

2667
04:18:13,400 --> 04:18:17,360
we should try to do it for the benefits of the residents,

2668
04:18:17,360 --> 04:18:20,060
you know, residential. Why stay up and get everybody's

2669
04:18:20,060 --> 04:18:24,760
happy when we go to something or even when I do in my

2670
04:18:24,760 --> 04:18:28,560
campaign, I do find that after six o'clock, something you

2671
04:18:28,560 --> 04:18:31,140
couldn't find the address, you couldn't find it, you don't know

2672
04:18:31,140 --> 04:18:34,760
where you at, you cannot find the address. Okay, so what are the

2673
04:18:34,760 --> 04:18:38,320
concerns that I have? And I think we need to be very clear in

2674
04:18:38,320 --> 04:18:41,940
messaging for our residents, whether it's in the flyer or

2675
04:18:41,940 --> 04:18:45,960
however we're contacting the residents, that only proposals for

2676
04:18:45,960 --> 04:18:51,980
entire street or track will be considered. Painting for a single residence is not permitted.

2677
04:18:52,600 --> 04:18:56,940
So I don't want our residents saying, oh, you know, I asked for this. They said they would do it for free,

2678
04:18:57,280 --> 04:19:01,500
and then come to find out nobody in their neighborhood wants it. And then they're going to even be more

2679
04:19:01,500 --> 04:19:11,260
upset that it didn't get done. That's what I'm concerned about. And that there's no obligation for

2680
04:19:11,260 --> 04:19:16,360
donations. So I'm assuming they're not knocking on the door and saying here's my envelope.

2681
04:19:17,620 --> 04:19:21,060
They just leave it on the door. They're not knocking and making contact.

2682
04:19:23,240 --> 04:19:27,580
And also the part where says written permission from the property owner is required.

2683
04:19:28,420 --> 04:19:34,460
How is that done? Do they write a letter? Is it a form that they sign? Those are concerns that I have.

2684
04:19:36,320 --> 04:19:41,140
I can just imagine our seniors saying they want something painted but they're not going to take

2685
04:19:41,140 --> 04:19:45,460
the time to write a letter, what does written permission mean?

2686
04:19:49,020 --> 04:20:00,260
So, Jennifer, is this motion, is this curb address painting program going to be, is it going

2687
04:20:00,260 --> 04:20:09,820
to be in place alongside the city of Serritos Free Program or is it going to replace

2688
04:20:09,820 --> 04:20:12,020
the city of Serritos Free Program?

2689
04:20:13,620 --> 04:20:27,140
That's a very good question, I think if once we do that, we reduce the phone call for a request to the public work department for repenting the address once we have done this.

2690
04:20:27,140 --> 04:20:33,960
So that way, hopefully, we can re-offload some of the burden to the public work.

2691
04:20:34,140 --> 04:20:40,540
They can do content for it on more other job that they've been delayed or their short

2692
04:20:40,540 --> 04:20:45,860
of empowers, which is more important thing, rather than just address, you know?

2693
04:20:46,200 --> 04:20:49,540
So it sounds like you're not going to limit in your motion.

2694
04:20:50,440 --> 04:20:54,320
You're not eliminating the city of Cretos Free Program.

2695
04:20:55,280 --> 04:21:04,000
You're going to leave it in place and it's up to residents, the call public works tomorrow or next week.

2696
04:21:04,600 --> 04:21:08,480
If they want it, they just call up public works, they ask for it, they get it for free.

2697
04:21:09,120 --> 04:21:12,500
Yes, you cannot take away what we're not going to eliminate that.

2698
04:21:12,500 --> 04:21:13,960
No, we're not going to eliminate it.

2699
04:21:14,000 --> 04:21:18,400
And then the other thing and I'm glad that Mayor Johnson brought this up,

2700
04:21:18,400 --> 04:21:27,620
It's very broad to say only proposals for an entire street or track will be considered.

2701
04:21:28,220 --> 04:21:35,800
That's a big difference to say a street or track because we got some big tracks in

2702
04:21:35,800 --> 04:21:42,320
serritos and we got some short streets in serritos. There's some streets in serritos where there's

2703
04:21:43,920 --> 04:21:51,400
eight houses is so that means that street can be considered and then a track like

2704
04:21:51,400 --> 04:21:56,520
shadow park can be considered or a track like Renata Park you have to you have to

2705
04:21:56,520 --> 04:22:00,480
get up you have for Renata Park you have to do a proposal for the entire Renata Park

2706
04:22:00,980 --> 04:22:06,460
for the courts you have to do a proposal for the entire courts and then but for

2707
04:22:06,460 --> 04:22:16,440
streets that are not in a HOA. If there's a street that's whether it's 12 homes or 18 homes or

2708
04:22:16,440 --> 04:22:23,400
four homes, it can potentially cause we got some small streets. So what does this mean? Only

2709
04:22:23,400 --> 04:22:28,700
proposals for an entire street or track and what about uh...

2710
04:22:28,700 --> 04:22:29,380
cereals village

2711
04:22:30,000 --> 04:22:45,600
Or, you know, condominium communities, gated communities. How are we going to navigate what is a permit? What is the allowable proposal?

2712
04:22:46,640 --> 04:22:59,860
So we would work with each owner. The main goal is that we want to cover as wide areas possible. So we want to make sure that an entire street is uniform and assuming there's multiple streets in a track, then the entire track.

2713
04:22:59,860 --> 04:23:05,740
We would work on a boundary with the provider to ensure that there's

2714
04:23:05,740 --> 04:23:12,420
uniformity within as large areas reasonable per project that they work on.

2715
04:23:13,280 --> 04:23:18,300
This covers city streets or the streets that are maintained by the city, so private

2716
04:23:18,300 --> 04:23:24,560
streets such as inshadow park that are maintained by the HOA would not be covered because

2717
04:23:24,560 --> 04:23:27,200
they have their own care painting program internally,

2718
04:23:29,440 --> 04:23:31,960
if it's a condominiums that are private

2719
04:23:31,960 --> 04:23:36,060
streets the same, it would be, those are handled by the HWA internally. So it would be any

2720
04:23:36,060 --> 04:23:42,620
street that is maintained by the city. Okay, so I'm, you know, it's up to the, it's up to the

2721
04:23:42,620 --> 04:23:52,780
provider to decide if this is a good investment of $1100 or $1300 just again in the door to try to get

2722
04:23:52,780 --> 04:23:58,900
these donations to pay them back for the for the encroachment application fee and the business

2723
04:23:58,900 --> 04:24:07,180
license fee and their labor and their materials. Hopefully, they get enough donations to make it worth

2724
04:24:07,180 --> 04:24:17,360
their business time. But as long as the city of Sridos continues its free program for our

2725
04:24:17,360 --> 04:24:26,360
residents that they can call in to public works and, you know, and, you know, public works

2726
04:24:26,360 --> 04:24:33,560
and Chris are going to help them get that free address painted on the curb. If there's

2727
04:24:33,560 --> 04:24:39,940
a safety reason or Amazon delivery reason, they need to get it and now they know they can

2728
04:24:39,940 --> 04:24:46,080
call up and get it for free. As long as that continues to be in place, you know, I'll support

2729
04:24:46,080 --> 04:24:46,340
this.

2730
04:24:48,380 --> 04:24:50,920
Thank you.

2731
04:24:59,110 --> 04:25:02,590
Thank you. The motion passes on a vote of four to zero. Thank you. Now we move on to

2732
04:25:02,590 --> 04:25:14,150
the IAC. So you managed. Do we have a report on this? Yes. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Members of the city council. Item 9C is also coming back to you and response to consensus request.

2733
04:25:14,610 --> 04:25:20,270
This relates to information that was requested regarding the possible outsourcing of

2734
04:25:20,270 --> 04:25:24,970
Operation Maintenance of the Serritos Ironwood Dying Golf Course, an overview of the information

2735
04:25:24,970 --> 04:25:29,970
is and recommendation will be given by any Hilton Director of Community Cultural Services

2736
04:25:29,970 --> 04:25:33,370
and following your presentation, she now will be happy to answer any questions.

2737
04:25:34,450 --> 04:25:38,290
Thank you, Mr. Lopez. Good evening, Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.

2738
04:25:39,030 --> 04:25:43,490
In response to a suggestion by the Serritos resident budget task force,

2739
04:25:43,950 --> 04:25:47,710
the City Council directed staff to provide a report on the feasibility

2740
04:25:47,710 --> 04:25:53,210
and potential impacts of outsourcing the operations and maintenance of the Cerritos Iron

2741
04:25:53,210 --> 04:26:00,330
Wood 9 Golf Course to a private operator. Iron Wood 9 offers a 9-hole course in a driving range

2742
04:26:00,330 --> 04:26:08,150
with lighting. A total of 4 full-time city employees and 18 part-time city employees work at the golf course.

2743
04:26:08,150 --> 04:26:21,010
The grand total allocation in the 2026-2027 budget for the golf course is 1,499,593 dollars in 90 cents.

2744
04:26:21,590 --> 04:26:32,050
Golf course revenues for the 2025-2026 fiscal year total 1,121,851 dollars.

2745
04:26:32,050 --> 04:26:39,950
The total difference between operating expenses and revenues is $377,742.

2746
04:26:42,410 --> 04:26:48,090
Out sourcing the operations of the Ironwood Nine Golf Course requires several considerations.

2747
04:26:48,930 --> 04:26:58,190
Changes in the golf courses operations that affect represented city staff would require the city to meet and confer with representatives of the city employee union.

2748
04:26:58,190 --> 04:27:08,310
The city would also need to seek approval from the County Sanitation District and Southern California Edison to amend lease agreements for the golf course property.

2749
04:27:09,230 --> 04:27:17,990
Determining the potential revenues or expenses for outsourcing the golf courses operations would require the preparation and dissemination of a request for proposals.

2750
04:27:17,990 --> 04:27:25,130
In compliance with Assembly Bill 339, the city would first need to notify the city employee

2751
04:27:25,130 --> 04:27:30,550
Union of its intent to issue a request for proposals prior to its dissemination.

2752
04:27:32,010 --> 04:27:37,350
As an alternative to contracting with a third-party golf course operator, the city council

2753
04:27:37,350 --> 04:27:44,390
could review findings from a study and consider increasing all golf course fees to generate additional revenue.

2754
04:27:44,390 --> 04:27:50,190
The golf course's most recent fee adjustment took effect in January 2023.

2755
04:27:51,270 --> 04:27:56,110
When compared with similar public, nine-hole golf courses in the surrounding area,

2756
04:27:56,550 --> 04:28:01,090
Aaron Wendine golf course's current fee structure is below market rates.

2757
04:28:01,990 --> 04:28:07,850
It is projected that a fee increase of approximately 30% would be required to bring the

2758
04:28:07,850 --> 04:28:13,090
golf course closer to a break even operating position while maintaining competitiveness

2759
04:28:13,090 --> 04:28:19,510
with similar facilities. It is recommended that the City Council review and discuss the feasibility

2760
04:28:19,510 --> 04:28:24,970
and potential impacts of outsourcing the operations and maintenance of the Serritos Ironwood

2761
04:28:24,970 --> 04:28:31,130
Nine golf course to a private operator. Review and discuss continuing city operation of the

2762
04:28:31,130 --> 04:28:37,110
Serritos Ironwood Nine golf course and direct staff to prepare an agenda report with information

2763
04:28:37,110 --> 04:28:42,830
from a study on the golf course's fees and potential consideration of increasing the

2764
04:28:42,830 --> 04:28:49,930
course fees as an initial measure to mitigate operating losses, receive public comment and direct

2765
04:28:49,930 --> 04:28:56,430
staff accordingly. This concludes my report and staff would be happy to answer any questions this time.

2766
04:28:58,550 --> 04:29:01,730
Thank you, Annie for the report. Do we have any questions from the council?

2767
04:29:04,640 --> 04:29:05,360
No questions?

2768
04:29:05,760 --> 04:29:11,880
I'm sorry. I do have a quick question. Any, I want to know how many years we're being. I know it's

2769
04:29:11,880 --> 04:29:20,760
like almost $380,000 last year. But how many years like we've been losing money on the golf course management?

2770
04:29:22,120 --> 04:29:29,960
To my knowledge, we have never really studied if we've ever made money at the golf course,

2771
04:29:29,960 --> 04:29:35,940
so we would need to go back and do a study. We've always viewed it as a very nice service to provide

2772
04:29:35,940 --> 04:29:41,240
to the community. We have golfers of all ages. It's a place people like to learn how to golf

2773
04:29:41,240 --> 04:29:43,380
and we have a lot of senior patrons

2774
04:29:43,380 --> 04:29:45,820
who enjoy the fact that it is a nine-hole course.

2775
04:29:46,500 --> 04:29:49,140
So it was not really the city's goal

2776
04:29:49,140 --> 04:29:53,660
to look at making it as a place to generate revenue

2777
04:29:53,660 --> 04:29:55,940
as viewed as a service.

2778
04:29:56,940 --> 04:29:59,560
So I do know in recent years, certainly.

2779
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:13,240
The office has operated at a loss, but I would need to go back and do further research to determine over the years. We've been operating the golf course since 1977. It'll be the 50 year anniversary in February of 2027.

2780
04:30:14,520 --> 04:30:28,020
Thank you. Thanks for the report. I guess I would not look at this. Oh, my goal is to try to balance it. You know, not losing. So you have to come out with the money from the general fund. That's what I'm looking at because a golf is important.

2781
04:30:28,020 --> 04:30:34,540
but like some of the residents say they're not golfers. So to those people do use this facility

2782
04:30:34,540 --> 04:30:39,900
they think it's very important but for some residents they all like I don't play golf so they don't

2783
04:30:39,900 --> 04:30:46,500
really care you know it's not like library majority of people would go you know or different facility

2784
04:30:46,500 --> 04:30:53,980
or senior center we know the people among of course we have this you know my suggestion is probably

2785
04:30:53,980 --> 04:31:00,720
we should review and how we maybe should increase our cost because I've seen the report.

2786
04:31:00,780 --> 04:31:02,080
This is a great report.

2787
04:31:02,520 --> 04:31:08,680
If showing was the rate and comparing to other city and I think it's time for our city

2788
04:31:08,680 --> 04:31:12,920
not trying to make the money, but at least try not to lose money.

2789
04:31:13,360 --> 04:31:19,160
And for that, I would still, I would probably personally, I would prefer to ask the city

2790
04:31:19,160 --> 04:31:27,320
nature to bring back and look into this issue before we to analyze what's the cost and how much

2791
04:31:27,320 --> 04:31:33,140
percentage which you increase and of course we always have to give the resident a better

2792
04:31:33,140 --> 04:31:40,250
benefits because you know it's different but for outside resident players we can increase a little more

2793
04:31:41,040 --> 04:31:48,820
so to to be a standard even I look at this even we bring up to like long beach rate for 15

2794
04:31:48,820 --> 04:31:57,460
or even 15 dollars or make an even number 15 18 22 or 26 but of course you have to

2795
04:31:57,460 --> 04:32:04,440
see the manager with a staff have to do the more study about this. My goal is not to

2796
04:32:05,100 --> 04:32:11,740
you know we have to subsidize the money from the general fund but same token if we can keep

2797
04:32:11,740 --> 04:32:17,860
it ourselves that would be the best because we do a great job to maintain the golf course

2798
04:32:17,860 --> 04:32:26,240
because I don't mind outsourcing, but sometimes I do heard a bad part of American golf.

2799
04:32:27,560 --> 04:32:33,320
You know, once they have the contrast, if they don't keep up the golf course, it's just affecting

2800
04:32:33,320 --> 04:32:42,220
our cities image as well. And of course, we're not pleasing our golfers as well. And that's not

2801
04:32:42,220 --> 04:32:43,840
what we definitely want.

2802
04:32:44,540 --> 04:32:46,540
So that's my personal proposal.

2803
04:32:46,620 --> 04:32:51,920
Before we do the further proposal about,

2804
04:32:52,260 --> 04:32:56,340
because if you send it out for a consultant

2805
04:32:56,340 --> 04:33:02,300
to find out what is the PFR, you know,

2806
04:33:02,540 --> 04:33:05,960
that would cause this, I'm sorry, I have pee,

2807
04:33:06,380 --> 04:33:08,220
that would cause more money.

2808
04:33:08,300 --> 04:33:10,800
And I don't know what is the timeframe, you know?

2809
04:33:10,800 --> 04:33:13,500
So, that's my consideration.

2810
04:33:16,160 --> 04:33:22,180
So, I think it's great that the city is beautiful city we all live in, offer so many services.

2811
04:33:22,320 --> 04:33:28,240
There's something for everybody, there's golf or the golfer, there's a theater, for the theater patron,

2812
04:33:28,860 --> 04:33:35,580
there's a senior center for seniors, there's swimming pool for swimmers, all of these are city services.

2813
04:33:36,580 --> 04:33:40,260
And to say that, oh nobody golfs, we don't know that.

2814
04:33:40,260 --> 04:33:45,880
people pull out numbers out of the air. Just like people say, oh, only 5% go to the CCPA.

2815
04:33:46,460 --> 04:33:53,480
We don't know that. I don't know where they get that number. So I support whatever we can do for our residents.

2816
04:33:57,060 --> 04:34:06,820
And if there's any other questions, I'm going to open it up for public comments. Any questions?

2817
04:34:06,820 --> 04:34:12,720
All right. Anybody want to comment? Okay. Thank you.

2818
04:34:19,210 --> 04:34:21,790
Yeah. Okay. Again, I'm speaking for

2819
04:34:21,790 --> 04:34:27,070
Robert Chivell. He could not be here tonight, so I told him I would come down. Let's

2820
04:34:27,070 --> 04:34:32,170
speak. Good evening. Council staff and fellow residents. Sorry that I cannot be here in person or

2821
04:34:32,170 --> 04:34:37,510
participate via Zoom. I hope this letter will surprise. I write regarding the city's golf course.

2822
04:34:37,970 --> 04:34:42,910
The golf course is beautiful and valuable as city asset. It has been losing that

2823
04:34:42,910 --> 04:34:48,450
Well, hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, the average loss over past five years has

2824
04:34:48,450 --> 04:34:50,810
been more than $400,000 per year.

2825
04:34:51,250 --> 04:34:54,510
The golf course should instead be making money for the city.

2826
04:34:54,770 --> 04:34:57,010
Golf is a luxury, not a necessity.

2827
04:34:57,430 --> 04:35:02,350
The city has thus been heavily subsidizing a luxury item.

2828
04:35:02,890 --> 04:35:08,270
A strong majority of Serritos residents would much prefer the same money be spent instead

2829
04:35:08,270 --> 04:35:11,430
on such things as reopening the library on Sundays,

2830
04:35:11,910 --> 04:35:13,690
tree trimming, sidewalk repairs,

2831
04:35:13,870 --> 04:35:16,330
and restoring the Thursday night concerts in the park.

2832
04:35:16,910 --> 04:35:18,550
All of that could be done if the council

2833
04:35:18,550 --> 04:35:20,370
would act on the golf course.

2834
04:35:20,910 --> 04:35:23,710
Such action would show that you care about the residents

2835
04:35:23,710 --> 04:35:27,910
and it would generate significant goodwill, a reminder,

2836
04:35:28,490 --> 04:35:33,290
our mayor wrote on the first line of a first mayoral letter

2837
04:35:33,290 --> 04:35:35,090
on May 1st of this year.

2838
04:35:35,090 --> 04:35:43,370
Quote, one of the most important responsibilities of the City of Cerritos Council and City staff is to ensure that we are good students of the taxpayer dollar.

2839
04:35:43,870 --> 04:35:49,850
Losing more than $400,000 a year on a luxury item is not good stewardship.

2840
04:35:50,310 --> 04:35:57,970
Good stewardship here would be to consider all options for the golf course, including having an outside firm maintained and operated.

2841
04:35:58,550 --> 04:36:02,870
As you know, this issue was raised by the resident budget task force in April.

2842
04:36:03,490 --> 04:36:09,870
Details were then provided to the City Council meetings on May 11 with follow up on both June 13th and June 22nd.

2843
04:36:10,650 --> 04:36:14,970
And thankfully at the May 28th meeting, the Council voted to direct, quote,

2844
04:36:15,330 --> 04:36:20,110
the City Manager to provide a report on the feasibility and potential impacts

2845
04:36:20,110 --> 04:36:25,530
of outsourcing the operations and maintenance for the golf course to a private operator.

2846
04:36:26,310 --> 04:36:28,530
May we please have a click update on that work.

2847
04:36:28,530 --> 04:36:30,290
Okay, you've given that council.

2848
04:36:30,870 --> 04:36:33,170
Would you please ask the city mayor and others

2849
04:36:33,170 --> 04:36:34,250
for an update right now?

2850
04:36:34,290 --> 04:36:35,430
Again, you're doing that.

2851
04:36:35,770 --> 04:36:37,450
Thank you so much for your time and consideration,

2852
04:36:38,050 --> 04:36:38,670
Robert Chival.

2853
04:36:39,630 --> 04:36:41,270
And I have 43 seconds left.

2854
04:36:41,290 --> 04:36:43,930
I will just say that I, Deborah Barry,

2855
04:36:43,950 --> 04:36:47,610
support his efforts to make the golf court solvent,

2856
04:36:47,710 --> 04:36:50,150
just like we should have made the water fund solvent,

2857
04:36:50,570 --> 04:36:52,650
just like we should make all of these things solvent

2858
04:36:52,650 --> 04:36:55,630
so we stop encroaching on the general fund.

2859
04:36:55,630 --> 04:36:56,470
Thank you.

2860
04:36:56,470 --> 04:37:04,910
thank you anybody else do we we have two people you can you guys please sign it let me

2861
04:37:04,910 --> 04:37:09,490
see here first hold on well I have Charles the David Pileman Charles and then Jason

2862
04:37:09,490 --> 04:37:10,230
knows

2863
04:37:15,130 --> 04:37:29,970
David Pileman initially I had no position on this issue I don't play golf I know

2864
04:37:30,000 --> 04:37:38,240
So once I started reading the report, staff report, I thought, wow, this doesn't really look like

2865
04:37:38,240 --> 04:37:45,920
there's any choice. It is required that the city maintain this facility because we can't

2866
04:37:45,920 --> 04:37:53,700
just get rid of the whole facility, sell it, so we're going to have to maintain it. It's

2867
04:37:53,700 --> 04:37:58,760
terrible that we've gotten into a situation where the sanitation district is going to extract

2868
04:37:58,760 --> 04:38:01,420
so much money from this process.

2869
04:38:02,200 --> 04:38:07,180
Even worse, I guess many people probably would think

2870
04:38:07,180 --> 04:38:08,960
that I'm an anti-union person.

2871
04:38:09,500 --> 04:38:11,860
I don't understand why we need to consult with the union

2872
04:38:11,860 --> 04:38:13,000
about this.

2873
04:38:14,140 --> 04:38:18,360
If we're going to have somebody else run this place,

2874
04:38:18,540 --> 04:38:21,400
we just tell all the recreation employees, I'm sorry.

2875
04:38:22,740 --> 04:38:26,040
We no longer are employing people for this function,

2876
04:38:26,380 --> 04:38:27,620
so you don't have a job anymore.

2877
04:38:27,620 --> 04:38:33,820
for some reason I guess that's not what we can do by law.

2878
04:38:35,750 --> 04:38:43,770
But then of course we have this working relationship with the school district and we do provide

2879
04:38:43,770 --> 04:38:50,710
the service to the school district and I just wonder when you did the survey you know how

2880
04:38:50,710 --> 04:38:55,450
Long Beach, Norwalk, and Lamarada served their school districts.

2881
04:38:55,670 --> 04:39:01,710
Did they give them free use of a golf course that's run by someone else?

2882
04:39:02,890 --> 04:39:09,290
So I'm sorry that there was someone that promised to come tonight and speak, but I'm sure

2883
04:39:09,290 --> 04:39:12,650
they would this day and tell 11.45 either.

2884
04:39:13,590 --> 04:39:20,250
So I think there's no note, choice, but for us to continue this operation of this facility,

2885
04:39:20,250 --> 04:39:24,670
because we don't want to give up total ownership of the facility.

2886
04:39:25,730 --> 04:39:27,690
So therefore, the fees have to go up.

2887
04:39:28,010 --> 04:39:29,350
That's all there is to it. Thanks.

2888
04:39:30,530 --> 04:39:32,510
Thank you, Mr. Palman. We have Charles.

2889
04:39:34,410 --> 04:39:35,210
Jason Holmes.

2890
04:39:42,460 --> 04:39:43,700
I expect to be here this long.

2891
04:39:43,980 --> 04:39:44,860
Thank you for staying.

2892
04:39:46,000 --> 04:39:49,120
I'm here because I've been out the golf course for,

2893
04:39:49,400 --> 04:39:50,920
I've been frequent in the golf course.

2894
04:39:51,080 --> 04:39:52,520
I've been a resident of Serios for 40 years.

2895
04:39:52,640 --> 04:39:55,000
I've been out the golf course since 1988.

2896
04:39:55,000 --> 04:40:00,860
That's where I started my golf journey, and that's where I would like to continue my golf journey as the

2897
04:40:01,540 --> 04:40:03,960
Acting PGA professional at our facility

2898
04:40:04,900 --> 04:40:12,440
One of my students is actually here in the room. I didn't know he was going to be here, but that just shows you the impact of golf course has on our community and what it's had on me

2899
04:40:13,700 --> 04:40:19,260
And I think when most people look at the golf course you look at the obviously we're in the financial time

2900
04:40:19,260 --> 04:40:23,720
So we're looking at numbers right we're looking at the $378,000 deficit

2901
04:40:24,800 --> 04:40:31,660
But what we heard from the Dix people is golf is going to be a huge part of their business.

2902
04:40:32,060 --> 04:40:38,340
They're bringing insimulators, they're bringing in all these different things to drive revenue

2903
04:40:38,340 --> 04:40:39,540
to their business.

2904
04:40:40,840 --> 04:40:44,840
I just played in a golf tournament today representing our city through P.J.

2905
04:40:44,840 --> 04:40:53,700
America as the pro junior out in Victoria Club, and I was speaking to the president of the

2906
04:40:53,700 --> 04:41:00,160
And when it comes to golf courses, what we do at Ironwood and the way we do things has been recognized by

2907
04:41:00,160 --> 04:41:05,280
Don Canabi, it's been recognized by the county, it's been recognized by P.J. of America.

2908
04:41:06,460 --> 04:41:11,600
I don't think people understand when you talk about 55,000 rounds a year, okay?

2909
04:41:11,980 --> 04:41:16,720
There's 18-hole golf courses that always get mentioned that don't do that kind of business.

2910
04:41:17,300 --> 04:41:21,360
We're talking about 149,000 people that come through the gate.

2911
04:41:21,360 --> 04:41:25,980
When I told the PGA of America that that's the type of numbers we were doing, you should

2912
04:41:25,980 --> 04:41:27,280
have seen the look on their face.

2913
04:41:27,760 --> 04:41:32,700
Some of their private high-end facilities aren't doing those kind of numbers, right?

2914
04:41:32,900 --> 04:41:35,640
I was always told Ironwood was never about profit.

2915
04:41:35,720 --> 04:41:38,520
It was always about a community-driven thing, right?

2916
04:41:39,920 --> 04:41:45,580
Now golf, and the golf course, along with the community-driven thing is kind of unique

2917
04:41:45,580 --> 04:41:50,120
in the sense that you actually can make money off the golf course.

2918
04:41:50,120 --> 04:41:56,680
It can subsidize itself, and subsidize the community, and we can continue to provide these programs.

2919
04:41:57,340 --> 04:42:00,720
And still work cheaper than anything that's in the area.

2920
04:42:02,660 --> 04:42:10,900
So I think a lot of people that don't frequent our golf course, don't see what the golf course does for our veterans, for our seniors.

2921
04:42:11,480 --> 04:42:17,180
There's a lot of people that just come to the golf course just to talk to the staff, because it's a home for them.

2922
04:42:17,180 --> 04:42:24,240
You know, and so I just believe that the golf course is extremely viable, golf is one of the biggest businesses in the world.

2923
04:42:24,580 --> 04:42:32,140
I mean, if we start looking at it from the business perspective instead of just a community thing, we can at least break even on this stuff.

2924
04:42:32,500 --> 04:42:37,780
You know, I mean, to do $1.1 million in a business where we're not even trying to make money.

2925
04:42:38,480 --> 04:42:39,700
You know, the need is there.

2926
04:42:40,000 --> 04:42:45,420
I mean, we got to do is make $2.50 more per every person that comes in and we'll break even.

2927
04:42:45,420 --> 04:42:47,060
But I think we can be profitable as well.

2928
04:42:47,340 --> 04:42:48,140
So I'm here to support

2929
04:42:51,700 --> 04:42:52,180
that.

2930
04:42:52,300 --> 04:42:53,300
Thank you.

2931
04:42:53,400 --> 04:42:54,620
Do we have any other speakers?

2932
04:42:56,040 --> 04:42:56,880
How about any colleagues?

2933
04:42:57,640 --> 04:43:00,320
You came and spoke at the previous meeting, right?

2934
04:43:01,840 --> 04:43:04,120
Then you speak at the previous meeting as well.

2935
04:43:04,340 --> 04:43:06,240
Yeah, thank you for coming both times.

2936
04:43:07,140 --> 04:43:08,420
Cindy, do we have any colleagues, speakers?

2937
04:43:09,620 --> 04:43:13,140
We have no remote speakers, but I will

2938
04:43:13,140 --> 04:43:16,360
know for the record of the City Council receive full text

2939
04:43:16,360 --> 04:43:17,820
and our doctorate copies of the three

2940
04:43:17,820 --> 04:43:21,540
and comments, and then by the deadline for item 9C, request for copies of these

2941
04:43:21,540 --> 04:43:25,140
rain comments, can be made to the office of the City Clerk during regular business

2942
04:43:25,140 --> 04:43:25,580
hours.

2943
04:43:25,900 --> 04:43:26,420
Thank you.

2944
04:43:26,920 --> 04:43:29,760
And one more time, we do not have Charles in the room.

2945
04:43:30,440 --> 04:43:30,780
Okay, great.

2946
04:43:30,780 --> 04:43:35,380
I'm going to close public comments, bring it back to council for comments.

2947
04:43:36,460 --> 04:43:37,260
Do you have any comments?

2948
04:43:37,780 --> 04:43:38,080
Yes.

2949
04:43:39,720 --> 04:43:40,080
Thank you.

2950
04:43:40,160 --> 04:43:40,620
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2951
04:43:41,020 --> 04:43:41,320
Yes.

2952
04:43:44,760 --> 04:43:53,940
First part of me, thank you Mr. Holmes for coming and speaking in support of our golf course

2953
04:43:53,940 --> 04:44:01,380
and thank you for your many, many, many years of dedicated service given back to your hometown

2954
04:44:01,380 --> 04:44:11,380
At the call, of course, my question of our city manager, I'm concerned about

2955
04:44:12,500 --> 04:44:21,400
complying with Assembly Bill of 339 with regard to our city's obligation to notify the city

2956
04:44:21,400 --> 04:44:24,540
employee union of

2957
04:44:26,710 --> 04:44:32,690
its intent to issue a request for proposals, and the meeting confer process

2958
04:44:32,690 --> 04:44:47,490
Can can you please elaborate that and not just elaborate on that process but in your opinion what impact that would that the real impact that would have on the morale of our city employees.

2959
04:44:48,170 --> 04:44:51,130
Sure. Yes, you know, for a time.

2960
04:44:53,090 --> 04:44:59,690
AB339 was went into effect at the beginning of this year, and it requires that for a public agency.

2961
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:09,500
Prior to conducting an RFP for services, such as this concept, we would first have to do a meeting

2962
04:45:09,500 --> 04:45:16,100
for a process with the employee union to discuss impacts of that potential RFP. So this is even

2963
04:45:16,100 --> 04:45:25,320
before soliciting proposals and knowing what potential providers are out there to offer services.

2964
04:45:25,320 --> 04:45:28,480
This is a requirement of state law now and effect.

2965
04:45:30,340 --> 04:45:34,560
And doing so, of course, if that were a need,

2966
04:45:34,720 --> 04:45:36,300
we would undergo that process.

2967
04:45:37,300 --> 04:45:41,800
But as you pointed out, there would be an impact in a cost

2968
04:45:41,800 --> 04:45:46,840
in terms of a morale that can be avoided at this point

2969
04:45:46,840 --> 04:45:49,260
with the recommendation that's included in the report.

2970
04:45:49,980 --> 04:45:52,460
As a first step, as simply just a reason

2971
04:45:52,460 --> 04:45:58,340
and the existing fees that are charged entered effort to offset the any potential operational

2972
04:45:58,340 --> 04:46:06,200
losses. So our recommendation is that that be a first step and that can continue to be assessed

2973
04:46:06,200 --> 04:46:13,080
and we can continue to come up with recommendations related to the operation to address the overarching

2974
04:46:13,080 --> 04:46:20,400
concerns about cost and revenues without needing to pursue the RFP process at this time.

2975
04:46:23,920 --> 04:46:27,820
Thank you. I appreciate your answer.

2976
04:46:31,280 --> 04:46:40,420
Yeah, I'll leave it at that. After we have further discussion, I might have another comment. Thank you.

2977
04:46:40,420 --> 04:46:43,540
Is there anybody else?

2978
04:46:45,040 --> 04:46:45,640
Yes, Mayor.

2979
04:46:45,960 --> 04:46:47,120
I have to view comments.

2980
04:46:47,780 --> 04:46:49,540
I think first of all, I apologize.

2981
04:46:49,940 --> 04:46:51,720
The term is F.P.

2982
04:46:51,800 --> 04:46:55,680
What is stands for is request for proposal.

2983
04:46:56,180 --> 04:47:02,580
This is a way that we request for outside source of people to come up and give us the proposal.

2984
04:47:02,600 --> 04:47:06,240
How they're going to run it and how much would they cost us.

2985
04:47:06,240 --> 04:47:12,360
However, this before the RFP, the request for proposal,

2986
04:47:12,840 --> 04:47:18,560
requires staff time and legal review and consultant resources.

2987
04:47:19,620 --> 04:47:25,780
So before we spend public money exploring private operations

2988
04:47:25,780 --> 04:47:36,220
operators, I believe we owe it to our resident to determine whether we can

2989
04:47:36,220 --> 04:47:44,320
through operational improvements and reasonable rate adjustments while keeping the golf course

2990
04:47:44,320 --> 04:47:51,800
under CD management. Like the public speaks they were saying yes most of the golf course

2991
04:47:51,800 --> 04:47:58,800
is easily to make money especially not too many CD have all the golf courses and if we have a lovely

2992
04:47:58,800 --> 04:48:06,180
one we maintain it well a lot of people do enjoy it come over here and I think this also part of the

2993
04:48:06,180 --> 04:48:13,160
of our city as well because like we all are very proud of our city because our city is a small

2994
04:48:13,160 --> 04:48:20,680
city, however we provide so much services, you know, life of quality of life to our

2995
04:48:20,680 --> 04:48:26,400
residence. How many city have like the mayor was just talking about? How many city have the library?

2996
04:48:26,520 --> 04:48:34,180
How many city have a golf course? How many city have senior centers? And we have all this. We have

2997
04:48:34,180 --> 04:48:41,040
swimming centers, we have all the beautiful parks. I mean, this is something that we are so proud

2998
04:48:41,040 --> 04:48:47,200
of our city and we want to bring back the quality of the life in our city. But how we can

2999
04:48:47,200 --> 04:48:55,460
manage this city is very important. And so if we were talking about if we can at least break

3000
04:48:55,460 --> 04:49:02,420
even and maintain it and I would be more than happy to do that. Or if we can make some money out

3001
04:49:02,420 --> 04:49:09,280
to help ourselves generate some revenue for our CD that would be even much better.

3002
04:49:10,000 --> 04:49:16,380
So I think we should go for this way because I personally think we do provide like even the

3003
04:49:16,380 --> 04:49:22,720
park. We have everybody to come over and enjoy it, but who's maintained it? Who's paying for it?

3004
04:49:22,720 --> 04:49:32,400
And now that we got down to the budget problem, now we have to say sorry residents, we have to

3005
04:49:32,400 --> 04:49:43,700
You know, which we all have to work together to make it, you know, to go through this kind of difficult timing and our job in this council, I believe we all have the same goal.

3006
04:49:44,000 --> 04:49:53,100
We want to balance our budget and we're trying our best to do that. So if there's any way we can work it this out, I always look at that.

3007
04:49:53,100 --> 04:49:58,220
What is the good for our city, and what we can do not to

3008
04:49:58,220 --> 04:50:01,060
train our general funds?

3009
04:50:01,620 --> 04:50:08,100
So I personally would like to move to direct the city manager return

3010
04:50:08,100 --> 04:50:11,900
with the city operator financial,

3011
04:50:13,040 --> 04:50:17,080
substandability plan, including potential rate adjustment,

3012
04:50:17,860 --> 04:50:19,940
and operational efficiency.

3013
04:50:21,500 --> 04:50:25,640
That's my proposal. Thank you. Do we have any other comments?

3014
04:50:26,240 --> 04:50:35,660
What is your proposal? I'd like to see to study and do the plan including potential rate

3015
04:50:35,660 --> 04:50:42,340
adjustment. That means we need to increase the golfing fee. Of course,

3016
04:50:42,340 --> 04:50:58,820
but residential have a better rate and also study how we can make the operational efficiency much better instead of like, you know, we can cut back and make it the work more efficient.

3017
04:50:59,340 --> 04:51:11,260
But basically, once you erase the cost, I think we we can easy to make it the balance the budget, you know, and also probably making a little bit.

3018
04:51:11,260 --> 04:51:17,060
a little bit of self-repeated you because you look at the price here. We are really, really

3019
04:51:17,060 --> 04:51:21,420
reasonable, you know, and most of the golf are paid for that because if they go through

3020
04:51:21,420 --> 04:51:28,400
other city, they probably won't get that price. My proposal is to keep it and have the city

3021
04:51:28,400 --> 04:51:36,180
manager to go back and do the study and come back with a better adjustable the rate adjustment

3022
04:51:36,180 --> 04:51:39,040
and operational efficiencies.

3023
04:51:39,420 --> 04:51:43,260
Okay, this is how much it's going to cost us.

3024
04:51:43,460 --> 04:51:48,260
We have on the page five on this item,

3025
04:51:48,600 --> 04:51:52,760
NIC page five, it tells you total revenue

3026
04:51:52,760 --> 04:51:57,340
and total recreation service, this division expenses,

3027
04:51:58,160 --> 04:52:01,720
and the total parks and trees division expenses.

3028
04:52:01,720 --> 04:52:06,820
As Southern California, Addison payments, we cannot get away with it.

3029
04:52:07,040 --> 04:52:10,980
So that's the fixed amount, or maybe it could go higher in the future.

3030
04:52:11,780 --> 04:52:16,520
But then we have the total expenses, and we have the net difference.

3031
04:52:17,360 --> 04:52:24,300
So I think, and also, like my other colleague, our male protein was talking about,

3032
04:52:24,300 --> 04:52:29,960
we also have to comply with the assembly bill 339 the city with

3033
04:52:30,000 --> 04:52:44,140
First need to notify the city employee unions of this intent to issue a request for possible prior to this kind of adjustment or changes.

3034
04:52:44,140 --> 04:53:10,960
So, my personal proposal is, as I say, before we go further to request proposal, I would like to move to direct a city manager to return with a city operated financial substanability plan, including potential rate adjustments and operational efficiency.

3035
04:53:10,960 --> 04:53:21,180
that way I think this is $378,000. I think it's something we can manage, you know,

3036
04:53:21,260 --> 04:53:28,480
if I do increase in the, but I just proposed. Do we have any other comments? Yes, go ahead.

3037
04:53:28,500 --> 04:53:29,220
Thank you, Mayor.

3038
04:53:31,630 --> 04:53:33,230
That was happy to get this report.

3039
04:53:37,880 --> 04:53:40,640
I was happy to get this report because

3040
04:53:40,640 --> 04:53:42,840
The city council

3041
04:53:44,950 --> 04:53:55,270
was told back in May that the Delta for the golf course was almost $600,000.

3042
04:54:02,490 --> 04:54:05,430
Mine is $578,500,000.

3043
04:54:09,280 --> 04:54:11,180
That's what we were told in May.

3044
04:54:15,440 --> 04:54:23,660
So I'm happy to see that we have a number that's over $200,000 different.

3045
04:54:26,570 --> 04:54:48,170
I'm wondering why we were told such a big number just a few months ago in May, but it allows me to see that we're providing this community service that's valued by our residents and by our neighbors and by our kids,

3046
04:54:50,750 --> 04:54:52,710
to be able to play golf in the city of Serritos.

3047
04:54:54,640 --> 04:54:55,220
And,

3048
04:54:57,460 --> 04:55:02,140
you know, we are active military,

3049
04:55:04,440 --> 04:55:10,040
that we recognize every month with the first C.E.B. program where we recognize our Maritorious Marine.

3050
04:55:10,700 --> 04:55:21,700
They get the chance when they visit Serritos, they get the chance to play golf at Ironwood Nine, as one of the things we showcase to them when they visit Serritos.

3051
04:55:23,520 --> 04:55:34,540
That's why we, that's one more reason why we have Ironwood 9 because it's a, it's a wonderful thing to have in a city of 48,300 residents.

3052
04:55:36,950 --> 04:55:45,410
But that's one thing I'm going to find out, and another time, why we were told in May 578,578,578,578,5008 dollars.

3053
04:55:45,970 --> 04:55:46,510
When today,

3054
04:55:48,700 --> 04:55:55,440
two months later, we're told that the Delta is actually 377,742 dollars in 90 cents.

3055
04:55:56,860 --> 04:55:59,240
Another comment I like, thank you to the public.

3056
04:55:59,560 --> 04:56:00,680
Thank you to the speaker.

3057
04:56:01,480 --> 04:56:09,070
We spoke at public comment for shouting out that her opinion,

3058
04:56:10,390 --> 04:56:14,430
just for shouting out just like the golf course should be solvent.

3059
04:56:16,330 --> 04:56:19,030
Our water in the city of Serritos should be solvent.

3060
04:56:20,090 --> 04:56:21,010
So, thank you to the vote.

3061
04:56:21,330 --> 04:56:26,310
Thank you to the public speaker for pointing out pointing out that opinion of her.

3062
04:56:26,310 --> 04:56:28,070
that our waters should be solvent.

3063
04:56:33,000 --> 04:56:38,360
So we're providing a library to the residents of Serritos,

3064
04:56:39,420 --> 04:56:42,940
to the community, our world renowned library,

3065
04:56:43,060 --> 04:56:44,540
our Delta's almost $6 million.

3066
04:56:45,620 --> 04:56:51,880
Our senior center is minus our Delta's over $1,300,000.

3067
04:56:53,080 --> 04:56:58,380
Our theater is over $2,700,000 Delta.

3068
04:56:58,380 --> 04:57:07,460
significantly in this city that this city council has prioritized safety, and ever since

3069
04:57:07,460 --> 04:57:11,440
this city council got together in 2025,

3070
04:57:13,760 --> 04:57:20,800
our residential burglaries are down almost 40% plus comparing

3071
04:57:20,800 --> 04:57:30,300
2025 to 2024 and 2026 numbers are pretty much matching 2025, public safety

3072
04:57:30,300 --> 04:57:36,340
manager of Ryan Carey and I were taking a mid calendar year look at the numbers

3073
04:57:36,340 --> 04:57:41,660
of residential burglaries and we're doing everything we can that are 2026 numbers

3074
04:57:41,660 --> 04:57:48,660
don't go up. We want them to stay. We want to get them even lower than 2025, but we

3075
04:57:48,660 --> 04:57:50,960
definitely don't want them to go higher than 2025.

3076
04:57:51,920 --> 04:57:55,360
And this city council's working together with Captain Drew Strong

3077
04:57:55,360 --> 04:57:57,480
that a residential burglaries are not going up

3078
04:57:57,480 --> 04:58:02,220
because we made such great progress since we started working

3079
04:58:02,220 --> 04:58:04,720
together in 2025 compared to 2024.

3080
04:58:10,090 --> 04:58:12,950
But this is a jewel of the city.

3081
04:58:13,330 --> 04:58:18,410
Ironwood Nine, one of them, many jewels on our infinity

3082
04:58:18,410 --> 04:58:24,610
we got late of the city of Cerritos, and we have our theater, we have our senior center,

3083
04:58:24,710 --> 04:58:26,370
we have our library, we have our golf course,

3084
04:58:29,910 --> 04:58:32,710
all with an umbrella over them of safety

3085
04:58:32,710 --> 04:58:38,370
provided by the sheriff station and neighborhood watch in the city council and vops,

3086
04:58:40,780 --> 04:58:40,880
and

3087
04:58:40,880 --> 04:58:42,980
everybody that works together to keep our city safe.

3088
04:58:45,180 --> 04:58:50,040
So just like all these other things that have deltas, the golf course is not supposed,

3089
04:58:50,040 --> 04:58:58,080
You know, we're a city, we're not a business, we're a city, we provide services to our residents and we try to do the best we can.

3090
04:58:58,500 --> 04:59:12,780
We make the best decisions we can to provide these programs and services to our residents and we don't just write something off because it has a delta.

3091
04:59:13,680 --> 04:59:14,360
So,

3092
04:59:16,400 --> 04:59:31,380
the golf course, I'm happy that we showcase it to our meritorious Marines and to our local school districts and we have a tiny top golf programs that are going on right now and,

3093
04:59:33,480 --> 04:59:43,480
you know, this is a comprehensive report, I'm not certain what you're talking about Councilmember Hong but they make recommendations in here in this report about price.

3094
04:59:43,480 --> 04:59:51,620
price adjustments in this report. They have a significant listing of things that need to be considered for an RFP.

3095
04:59:52,040 --> 04:59:58,480
If we were to put out of RFP, this report that was presented to the City Council is a comprehensive report.

3096
04:59:58,700 --> 04:59:59,980
Just like was just like...

3097
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:11,780
I was asked for by you and Sophia. You and council member say, say, ask for this report. The two of you asked for this report. We're hearing it tonight at midnight,

3098
05:00:14,800 --> 05:00:23,680
because you and Sophia asked for this. She's not even here. So we have the four of us need to figure out if we can make progress on this tonight.

3099
05:00:29,700 --> 05:00:37,660
At least at least the speaker who had spoken up about this in previous meetings. At least he made sure that he was going to

3100
05:00:37,660 --> 05:00:41,960
that someone came in and read is public comment that he provided to us in writing,

3101
05:00:44,760 --> 05:00:45,120
but tonight

3102
05:00:45,120 --> 05:00:49,980
the four of us have to consider this matter even though you and Sophia were the ones that

3103
05:00:49,980 --> 05:00:51,140
brought it to the city council.

3104
05:00:53,420 --> 05:00:58,140
So I want to make progress on this. Thank you, Mr. Holmes.

3105
05:00:59,920 --> 05:01:04,020
I'm not sure about your math. You said something about if we increased it maybe two bucks or

3106
05:01:04,020 --> 05:01:05,800
to 50, that,

3107
05:01:10,490 --> 05:01:10,490
yeah,

3108
05:01:19,010 --> 05:01:20,870
yeah, and thank you.

3109
05:01:21,150 --> 05:01:23,390
Thank you to the mayor for letting us have this conversation.

3110
05:01:23,730 --> 05:01:26,690
And usually we're not really not supposed to,

3111
05:01:26,690 --> 05:01:30,450
but I appreciate you speaking twice about this

3112
05:01:30,450 --> 05:01:33,170
because it shows you are engaged

3113
05:01:33,170 --> 05:01:35,270
and you want to provide information

3114
05:01:35,270 --> 05:01:38,170
from someone who's actually at the golf course.

3115
05:01:41,610 --> 05:01:43,990
With our community, with our residents,

3116
05:01:43,990 --> 05:01:50,770
with the students, with the seniors, with the veterans golfing, and they all love it, right?

3117
05:01:53,540 --> 05:01:53,800
Okay.

3118
05:01:54,760 --> 05:02:05,690
So I kind of, you know, this number of rounds of golf, 55,892 in a fiscal year, that's 153 rounds

3119
05:02:05,690 --> 05:02:06,270
of golf a day.

3120
05:02:06,310 --> 05:02:14,830
If we golf every day, 365 days, that's 153 rounds of golf a day, 55,892 in a year.

3121
05:02:14,830 --> 05:02:14,830
You

3122
05:02:16,840 --> 05:02:26,820
know, so if we just made the adjustment based on rounds of golf, with a 377,742 delta,

3123
05:02:27,760 --> 05:02:32,900
you know, that's, you know, that's telling me, you know, we got to actually, we can't just based on,

3124
05:02:33,040 --> 05:02:42,640
if we only adjusted the price of a round of golf, you know, that's closer, that's in the ballpark of seven, seven bucks per round.

3125
05:02:42,640 --> 05:02:46,260
And I think that's something that

3126
05:02:48,570 --> 05:02:49,910
our golfers are going to,

3127
05:02:50,070 --> 05:02:52,610
they're either going to get a wide open, if they have to pace,

3128
05:02:52,710 --> 05:02:55,790
pay $7 more around the golf.

3129
05:02:58,400 --> 05:03:00,980
But what I did see in this comprehensive report,

3130
05:03:05,710 --> 05:03:10,570
what I did see in this comprehensive report is that staff pointed out

3131
05:03:11,110 --> 05:03:15,590
that a fee increase of approximately 30% would be required to

3132
05:03:15,590 --> 05:03:18,670
bring the golf course closer to a break,

3133
05:03:18,670 --> 05:03:21,910
even operating position while maintaining its competitiveness

3134
05:03:22,470 --> 05:03:23,970
with similar facilities.

3135
05:03:24,990 --> 05:03:26,390
That's on page six.

3136
05:03:31,480 --> 05:03:32,280
Those are my thoughts.

3137
05:03:34,400 --> 05:03:35,540
I'm happy with the golf course.

3138
05:03:35,720 --> 05:03:38,000
I'm so thankful to the hardworking city

3139
05:03:38,000 --> 05:03:43,000
of cereals and poise that operate and maintain our golf course.

3140
05:03:43,440 --> 05:03:45,600
You know, we have to deal with the fact that,

3141
05:03:45,600 --> 05:03:48,440
you know, we're leasing that property right, releasing it.

3142
05:03:48,740 --> 05:03:49,980
And then we have to deal with the fact

3143
05:03:49,980 --> 05:03:52,900
that even like right now, there's a local emergency going on there.

3144
05:03:52,900 --> 05:03:59,800
And the fact that the city of Sritos is running it, it allows us to better deal with the fact that there's an ongoing local emergency there.

3145
05:04:00,220 --> 05:04:11,140
And then we get to directly deal with all of the parties involved with that local emergency, where we had a hazardous chemical leak that we had to deal with.

3146
05:04:11,280 --> 05:04:17,380
And we were able to quickly pivot and deal with this emergency because we're the ones running the golf course.

3147
05:04:18,300 --> 05:04:24,480
And if we had some third party who doesn't know our city and doesn't know our residents running that thing,

3148
05:04:25,660 --> 05:04:35,740
I don't think we would have had those positive results we had in dealing with that emergency of the hazardous chemical hazardous materials leak underneath our golf course.

3149
05:04:37,480 --> 05:04:40,680
So Jennifer and Sophia asked for this item.

3150
05:04:40,740 --> 05:04:43,200
I just wanted to share my comments about this item.

3151
05:04:43,200 --> 05:04:50,000
I love the golf course. I'm so happy the city of Serios has it. Thank you to the hard working employees. Thank you to Mr. Holmes.

3152
05:04:50,640 --> 05:04:52,040
I want to keep providing golf.

3153
05:04:52,560 --> 05:04:58,080
To our community with our hard working city employees running that golf course.

3154
05:05:00,130 --> 05:05:01,150
Anybody else?

3155
05:05:01,710 --> 05:05:03,530
I just like to add on some more comments.

3156
05:05:03,530 --> 05:05:11,370
And the reason, thanks for Councilmember Yokoyama, I'm point now, the reason I propose to

3157
05:05:11,370 --> 05:05:17,510
have a request for proposal is because at that time the number is kind of huge and we don't

3158
05:05:17,510 --> 05:05:22,870
even know how many years we'd be running, losing that kind of amount.

3159
05:05:24,210 --> 05:05:31,450
So that's why at that time, if I'm thinking if we can outsource it and have somebody else to

3160
05:05:31,450 --> 05:05:36,930
funded and now we'll flow our city's burden and instead of, you know,

3161
05:05:37,030 --> 05:05:43,070
training our general funds. But after this wonderful report finally came out,

3162
05:05:43,450 --> 05:05:48,950
we have the actual numbers of all this. The problem is not as big as what we

3163
05:05:48,950 --> 05:05:55,890
original. What I originally thought, that's why I also look at the procedure that we

3164
05:05:55,890 --> 05:06:04,050
have to go through the time mean and the cost or everything together, I kind of change my

3165
05:06:04,050 --> 05:06:04,590
proposal.

3166
05:06:04,890 --> 05:06:10,790
I would prefer to keep it if we can change it and what I was just proposed, that would

3167
05:06:10,790 --> 05:06:13,670
be really, I think it could be the best proposal.

3168
05:06:14,250 --> 05:06:17,650
And then after a year, you know, we can look at it to it.

3169
05:06:17,730 --> 05:06:22,250
If we are still losing money, then city really have to look harder on this one.

3170
05:06:22,450 --> 05:06:25,070
We really know how to run this or not.

3171
05:06:25,070 --> 05:06:27,950
If we cannot run it, then we need to outsource.

3172
05:06:28,470 --> 05:06:30,810
We have to have the RFP.

3173
05:06:31,650 --> 05:06:32,510
That's my suggestion.

3174
05:06:33,210 --> 05:06:34,190
Thank you.

3175
05:06:35,590 --> 05:06:36,210
Anybody else?

3176
05:06:37,450 --> 05:06:37,930
Yes.

3177
05:06:39,150 --> 05:06:39,650
Mayor Proton.

3178
05:06:39,890 --> 05:06:40,950
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

3179
05:06:46,510 --> 05:06:49,870
And I appreciate the suggestion that Mr. Holmes mentioned

3180
05:06:50,970 --> 05:06:52,450
about in all of would take,

3181
05:06:52,450 --> 05:06:57,290
based upon the number of people who are coming annually,

3182
05:06:57,290 --> 05:07:10,690
just a simple increase of $2.50 would address the $377,742 dollars in

3183
05:07:10,690 --> 05:07:20,270
90 cents net difference, give or take of, you know, a little bit. And I was looking

3184
05:07:20,270 --> 05:07:29,870
that exhibit too, it says city of sweetest comparison of local nine-hole golf course fees and just looking at this.

3185
05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:39,500
I've seen the ranking on all the fees, the current fees, were number two in all categories to the

3186
05:07:39,500 --> 05:07:46,860
Don Canobie Gulf Center in Norma. And if, say, you were to apply the nice suggestion from

3187
05:07:46,860 --> 05:07:57,000
Mr. Holmes of just suggesting it, modestly, 250 across the board, we would be in the third position

3188
05:07:58,140 --> 05:08:06,740
That is this whole chart of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 cities that operate local nine-hole golf courses.

3189
05:08:10,140 --> 05:08:15,060
So just that modest adjustment makes

3190
05:08:17,270 --> 05:08:18,430
a, makes a, makes a even.

3191
05:08:22,320 --> 05:08:30,080
Councilmember Yokeyama mentioned that, you know, this is a public good, not a private enterprise.

3192
05:08:30,080 --> 05:08:37,620
We're in the business of providing services to our community, not profiting,

3193
05:08:40,900 --> 05:08:43,120
and I'd like

3194
05:08:43,120 --> 05:08:46,520
to, for us, to take a crack at

3195
05:08:49,110 --> 05:08:51,670
making the necessary adjustments.

3196
05:08:54,080 --> 05:09:02,440
What I don't want to do is unnecessarily trigger a meet and confer process that would

3197
05:09:02,440 --> 05:09:10,520
cause a drop in morale among the dedicated staff over there and clearly from the written

3198
05:09:12,680 --> 05:09:18,480
submitted feedback from residents,

3199
05:09:21,610 --> 05:09:25,630
they believe that going to a private company would quote

3200
05:09:25,630 --> 05:09:32,270
be detrimental to the city and another one said they're deeply concerned about having a

3201
05:09:32,270 --> 05:09:36,030
of a business from the course because it would destroy the unique sense of community.

3202
05:09:36,610 --> 05:09:40,390
You know, when we hear the people who are

3203
05:09:42,600 --> 05:09:47,220
supporting this great public good,

3204
05:09:51,220 --> 05:09:53,040
I think we need to listen to them.

3205
05:09:54,500 --> 05:10:06,680
And I see that in recommendation number two, it allows for us to do that, to direct the city manager and staff to come back to us

3206
05:10:06,680 --> 05:10:12,360
with study of golf course fee adjustments.

3207
05:10:14,520 --> 05:10:16,820
So I'd like to see us move in that direction

3208
05:10:16,820 --> 05:10:21,880
and not move towards outsourcing.

3209
05:10:22,520 --> 05:10:25,100
I concept, you know, principally I'm against outsourcing.

3210
05:10:25,880 --> 05:10:30,100
Okay, I'm for preserving good city jobs,

3211
05:10:32,350 --> 05:10:35,590
rewarding, loyal, dedicated staff,

3212
05:10:37,220 --> 05:10:44,300
rewarding loyal dedicated residents, patrons of our public goods,

3213
05:10:47,680 --> 05:10:49,680
so I believe to be consistent with that.

3214
05:10:50,100 --> 05:10:58,160
I would like to move this second recommendation that the staff provided.

3215
05:10:59,040 --> 05:10:59,540
A second.

3216
05:11:00,000 --> 05:11:00,860
I second.

3217
05:11:01,340 --> 05:11:01,560
Okay.

3218
05:11:02,360 --> 05:11:03,400
Thank you.

3219
05:11:05,150 --> 05:11:06,670
Have a first and a second.

3220
05:11:06,930 --> 05:11:08,090
Let's go ahead and vote.

3221
05:11:08,090 --> 05:11:08,610
The

3222
05:11:29,020 --> 05:11:31,340
motion pass on a vote of three to one.

3223
05:11:34,400 --> 05:11:37,460
I think we had enough information to make the price adjustment tonight.

3224
05:11:40,080 --> 05:11:41,000
All right.

3225
05:11:41,000 --> 05:11:42,020
Right and we're on

3226
05:11:43,740 --> 05:11:44,180
10

3227
05:11:45,060 --> 05:11:48,660
Madam Mayor, we do not have any items to present under 10 a or 10 be the same evening.

3228
05:11:49,680 --> 05:11:49,820
11

3229
05:11:50,700 --> 05:11:56,160
And I have no reports under item 11 a this evening. All right. Council comments

3230
05:11:57,100 --> 05:11:57,740
Any?

3231
05:11:59,340 --> 05:11:59,660
All right.

3232
05:12:00,260 --> 05:12:05,300
If none, I'm going to move to adjourn in memory of Randolph-Randy Mantooth.

3233
05:12:05,960 --> 05:12:13,920
Tonight I ask my council colleague to join me in adjourning tonight's meeting in memory of my dear friend, Randolph-Randy Mantooth.

3234
05:12:14,540 --> 05:12:23,000
Many of us know Randee as the beloved actor who brought firefighter, paramedic Johnny Gage to life on the iconic television series emergency.

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05:12:23,000 --> 05:12:46,520
But as greatest legacy extended far beyond television, through that role, Randy helped introduce millions of Americans to the emerging field of paramedicine and inspired generations of firefighters, EMTs, paramedics, nurses, and emergency responders to preserve careers dedicated to serving lives.

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05:12:46,520 --> 05:12:55,220
The legacy of Randy Mantooth also preserved through the work of the Los Angeles County Fire Museum located in Belflower,

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05:12:55,800 --> 05:13:01,540
which honors the history of the fire service and the evolution of emergency medical services.

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05:13:02,300 --> 05:13:09,880
The museum is also home to the iconic engine 51 and squad 51 vehicles from emergency.

3239
05:13:10,760 --> 05:13:23,260
Serritos was fortunate to be part of Randy's incredible journey when the Serritos Center for the Performing Arts hosted the 50th Anniversary Celebration of Emergency a few years ago.

3240
05:13:23,900 --> 05:13:27,660
One of Randy's final projects is a documentary called Into the Unknown.

3241
05:13:28,460 --> 05:13:36,100
I was very fortunate to be involved in a very, very small way when the project was first discussed back in 2018.

3242
05:13:36,100 --> 05:13:50,280
It was exciting to see the vision begin to take shape, and I'm so grateful that Randy was able to see the completed final version, which came out this year and witnessed the culmination of a project that was meaningful to him.

3243
05:13:51,000 --> 05:13:56,260
I was blessed to know Randy not only as a talented actor and public figure, but as a friend.

3244
05:13:56,260 --> 05:14:02,620
What I'll remember most about Randy was his kindness, his humility, and his genuine heart.

3245
05:14:03,260 --> 05:14:07,180
Despite his fame, he always made people feel valued and welcome.

3246
05:14:07,780 --> 05:14:13,840
He had a special appreciation for the men and women who serve our communities, and he used his voice to honor firefighters,

3247
05:14:14,580 --> 05:14:20,880
paramedics, and all those who answer the call during someone's greatest moment of me.

3248
05:14:20,880 --> 05:14:30,280
May he rest in peace, and we are now going to go into close session, can you take us into close session?

3249
05:14:30,580 --> 05:14:31,120
City Attorney?

3250
05:14:31,720 --> 05:14:33,880
Yes, thank you Madam Mayor and members of the City Council.

3251
05:14:34,200 --> 05:14:41,800
We will now need to recess into close session to discuss the 12A conference with legal counsel and potential litigation,

3252
05:14:41,980 --> 05:14:49,780
as well as 12B, 12C and 12D public employee appointments, evaluations, and dismissal for the City Manager City Attorney and City Clerk.

3253
05:14:49,780 --> 05:14:59,920
Thank you and one last announcement is I'd like I'm delighted to invite the community to the city's National Night Out event on Thursday, August 6th.

3254
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:05,980
The event starts at 7 p.m. at Heritage Park and will provide residents with an opportunity to meet and

3255
05:15:05,980 --> 05:15:11,200
thank the first responders who dedicate their lives to protecting us. The event will also feature

3256
05:15:11,200 --> 05:15:19,660
public safety displays and information activities for children, food trucks and a concert by that's

3257
05:15:19,660 --> 05:15:26,440
what I like. The ultimate Bruno Mars tribute experience. Information about the event is posted on

3258
05:15:26,440 --> 05:15:29,360
the city's website at serritos.gov.

3259
05:15:29,680 --> 05:15:33,880
I want to thank our Deputy Sheriff Eric Mutton that there for staying the whole evening

3260
05:15:33,880 --> 05:15:38,040
and to all of our staff. It was a long meeting. Thank you so much.

3261
05:15:38,300 --> 05:15:42,320
I appreciate all of you. Good night. Meeting adjourned.