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Tom, I'm good.
Greg, how are you doing? Hey Greg.

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All right, nice to see you.

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Are you Tom?
>> [laughter]

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» The lights are dim in here.
Just my imagination.

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It is a little dark today.

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Michelle, is there a light we're
missing? Yeah, they are. Those are the

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ones.

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We can do that around here. Dark
glasses. Don't tell me I have my dark

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glasses. Look, it's paper.

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How so funny?
Mom, you're being a comedian again?

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» He is. Hey, I have a really good
suggestion. I'll tell you later. It's

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okay. I was waiting for that. That's the
only reason I came.

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Wait a little longer.

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I've already knocked.
stalls

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Let's blame Whitney. She's the newest
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Let's blame Whitney.

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Here we go.

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» All right, your show.

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It's go time for us. Yep. Um
in my narrative that I sent to you um I

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showed that our tax income request is
down 2% from last year.

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Um we do have increases in
administrative and operations, but we

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also have an increase in our income. We
uh raise some of our ticket prices, some

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of our costs at the fair.
And also um our Indian relay race is now

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uh we're a 50% partner in and we've got
a new group coming in that's

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uh really outstanding. So,
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» our projections are
are very good for it and we've already

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sold over $11,000 worth of evening
junior relays since the 1st of May.

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So, everything looks pretty good. Our
capital requests are down 30% from last

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year. Our biggest request is uh
we have a

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billboard sign across the arena that we
want to replace with a digital billboard

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sign.
The one that's up there won't even hold

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the cloth anymore.
But if we can get a digital one up

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there, we can also tie it into our other
replay screen so that we can do

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advertising and the rodeo scores and
everything else on it. And the cost for

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it's about 187, but
um we think we can get a down payment in

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and and get it in for about 180.
Other than that, our uh

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our budget's pretty flat. We know that
that you guys are tight and we brought

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it in as honest as we can get it. Uh
there's not any room to cut in there.

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Um with the cost of steel going up and
our repairs going up and fuel going up,

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we we've gone as low as we can go with
everything and still keep it running.

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The
the barns are 50 years old. They're over

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50 years old. We we replaced
[clears throat] some of them because of

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the wind.
Right now to replace those same stalls

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is about 2,500 a stall and we've got
about 350 of them that need replaced.

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We've been of course repairing them. We
cut out full panels and then put in new

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panels on it. But you can only repair
stuff so long. Uh it's in bad need of of

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replacing.
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we'd like to get on a program of
replacing even 25, 30, 50 a year if we

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can get on that program.
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the other things we've got there that
rodeo offices was built in 1953. It

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still has clay tile pipe coming out of
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um drains.
Um we fight it every year. It's not real

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appealing even though we've overhauled
it inside and and uh

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refurbish it, it still looks like an old
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Um when we do that, what we'd like to do
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shoot seats and put it all together in
one and open up that area back there.

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So, the cost on this is going to be
quite extensive, but I'd like to put it

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up there in the forefront for people to
consider.

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» [clears throat]
>> The shoot seats are now not within code,

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of course.
Nothing is, [clears throat] I don't

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think, anymore.
Um and then the other thing is the

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perimeter fence around the fairgrounds.
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We're replacing it about 60 ft at a time
as people run into it.

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But we're really [laughter]
We're feeling need to replace

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Yeah, we turn it in insurance. Um
Danielle's got one now. They hit it

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again last week and
um fortunate for us, Danielle's husband

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was following the car that ran into the
fence. So, we were able to get

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everything and um
again, replace it 60, 70 ft at a time,

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but those posts have been in there for
so long, they're all rotten off and

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» [snorts]
>> we replace little bits at a time, but

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again, it's expensive.

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It's going
For the entire um perimeter fence,

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you're looking at about a half million
dollars.

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Again, you can break it out and do it in
sections, while in Boulevard one and

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13th Street one.
Um then the east side against the the

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Fort Caspar area. Um that would probably
be the third phase of it. Just keep the

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the uh privacy slats and keep the noise
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And that's all chain link and then it's

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all privacy slotted to on the two sides.

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If we if we just do the rodeo office
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you're looking at about $2 million for
it. Just to keep it about the same size.

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The shoot seats are probably another $2
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And most of that stuff over there of
course is wiring, electrical and

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and plumbing. Will the shoot seats make
us more money?

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Uh right now we're selling them out
almost every night. Yeah, and we've

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raised prices on them every year and
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they don't show any signs of weakening.

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Give me a number for the uh
stalls or whatever you call them.

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The stalls are about 2,500 a stall and
we again, we can do that and and uh

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and series two if we do them 30 at a
time, 50 at a time, whatever.

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Wherever we can get the money to
put it on a rotation and get it done.

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That you'd need to have
You'd you'd actually need to have it all

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put out to bid with you. Right. And
there it's pretty limited on who can do

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those things. There's a few companies
around that

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one of them being the one that's put in
the last two barns for us and they've

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always been the cheapest bid anyway.
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if all this gets done
do you think that you think you'll be

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able to be able to make more money?
The only thing I can see that's more

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money would be the seats.
Um yeah, right now during the winter

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we're we're housing about 40 to 50 head
of race horses all winter long and we've

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got other people wanting to come in but
we've only We some a few stalls that

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we're willing to rent out during the
winter because of the dangers of some of

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them.
We get $5 per head per night.

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So what would you like first if you had
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Well,
that's a toss-up. The rodeo office

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really bad, but the stalls
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are the money makers. So stalls first I
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then the rodeo office would be a close
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And then the perimeter fencing would be
third again little bits at a time, but

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if they keep running into it like I said
we're replacing it 70 ft at a time now.

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Such trouble is sometimes they hit the
same spot.

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That's right. [laughter]

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Yeah.
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» Correct them.

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But we appreciate everything that you
guys have done to help us with. We're

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trying to
do little bits each year just keep it

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progressive.
Where we're not going to be in a fix

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where you you're stuck with a
$200 million remodel. So we've we've

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been trying to every year do something
that that helps improve it and then

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takes it off our list, which we've been
doing and things look good and we

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appreciate it.
Are there any grants?

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We've been putting in for grants for
Angela's put in for three of them this

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spring. So far we've been turned down on
two, but we've still got one out

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pending.

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It's for the sign that we're trying to
put in just to help the electrical.

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That's it's just electrical and and
stationary stuff. It It cover the sign.

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Did Ellen leave you any money?
No.

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Just a statue. I was curious about that.
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a nice [clears throat] person. She was.
She She did a lot for us.

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And if they read the will and there is
some for us, I sure like to know.

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And any questions I'll try and answer,
but I think we're pretty straightforward

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with everything we've got.

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Tom, what's the
I know you said the sign and it and it's

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got for equipment 290,000.
What's the other

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One on the second sheet, it's got the

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report for request for equipment.
And the total request is 290,000. And

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then I see the
180 for the So, we've got

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We've got
buildings and structures, the 6-year-old

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heaters and industrial building. We need
to replace those.

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Um we've got two left to replace. We
have replaced two, but the 6-year-old

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heaters are just not cutting it anymore.
Um we've got some panels and shoots to

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consider continue the outside rail.
Uh we need to replace office copier and

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then of course the digital billboard.
And then the rock picker attachment for

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our skid steer loader. Those are the
other capital requests.

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And we tried to keep it
low, but we do have

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some tractors that we could start
replacing

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and we're going to have to within the
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» horse racing stuff like that.
Horse horse racing doesn't make money.

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No. Um

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The only reason any of them are horse
racing right now

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is for the off-track gambling. The
off-track gambling's handling about $2.4

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billion a year in this state alone.
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Gillette's down to four days of racing
now. Last year they averaged 13 people a

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night in the seats to watch them, which
that's not paying for your racing.

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Um
The thing that is paying is the Indian

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relays. We we get big turnout and the
money's there on it. I enjoyed that. And

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they're good.

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I got my back.
You bet. Thank you. You're welcome.

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Hey, Tom.
So, I got the 290. I see where that is

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with capital. Mhm.
I'm trying to do the math and see where

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we're at with the first sheet for the
one

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1.135.
Where's the

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Where's that
total at?

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On the revenues, it's on page
Now, if you put this normal like, it'd

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be
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» Just like a CSB.
I'd like to see it twisted.

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It'd be page six and seven is the
revenues.

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» Still don't see a matching number.

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1347500

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This is the bottom of page seven.
Right. The sheet we have is 1135800.

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This does match their 400.

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I don't even know where that came from
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Mr. Chairman, Tom, so in your budget
narrative, you requested of 1,135,800.

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Oh, that That's on the last page.
Sorry, I misunderstood you.

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Sorry.
On the last page, tax requirement

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amounts.
Oh, there we go.

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We have the estimated revenue and then
our total cash and estimated and then

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our total requirements.

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Okay.
Clear over to the right above with

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capitals. Yes, sir. Okay.

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One number is without capitals, the
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» They did a nice job.

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Mr. Chairman, Mhm. on that note, um Tom
and his staff, obviously the industrial

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building is one of my polling locations
that houses

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precincts in it, and him and his staff

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have They're outstanding to work with.
They bend over backwards to help me

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make it easy for me and accommodate me
in every way. And then also, we just

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hosted the County Clerks Association
meeting. Again, him and his staff just

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bent over backwards to accommodate us in
everything we needed, and they just do a

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fantastic job. They are just so
wonderful to me and my staff. So, thank

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you. Thank you. That's very nice.
Hey, Tom. Um

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on the heaters in the industrial
building,

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and I agree
they need to be upgraded.

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Anybody that's ever been in there knows
knows that they need to be upgraded.

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Um
do you have any idea what the cost

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efficiency
will be? I mean, most of those old

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heaters are about 35% efficient if I
remember right.

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» If these are 35, I'd like to see if
there.

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» be really nice. Yeah, probably more like
15 or 20. Two Yeah, two of the ones that

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we've get the newer ones that we've got
in there uh one of them's a '86 and the

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other one's '87.
They were bought in different years, but

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um those other two a lot of times
um they'll kick on and blow dust out for

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a little while and then they'll uh
kick back off and the other two are

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covering for them.

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We kept one of the old heaters that they
pulled out of there just for parts for

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repairs in those two, but we're running
out of parts.

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How in love are you with the idea of a
new scoreboard?

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Do I want to what now?
How much do you love the idea of a the

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new scoreboard?
I love it a lot.

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» [laughter]
>> It's not what you wanted to hear, was

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it?
No, no, I

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Well, I'm sure for 150,000

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That's it.

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The other thing with that uh scoreboard
is is it helps Angela in her selling her

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advertising for them.
Um they like the one that's down there,

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but
they like that billboard. So, if we have

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one that's in front of most of them, um
her advertising's easier to sell. So, it

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is a money maker. Not going to pay off
in the first 5 years, but it will

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eventually.

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Mr. Chairman,
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my dad that That's one of the
probably one of the main complaints that

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we've got over the last four or five
years that the people on the center to

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the east side of the stands can't see
the

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the the replay and all that and uh that
everybody questions why can't we put a

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replay
uh right center to where everybody can

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see it and
we honestly think it'll increase our

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revenue, put more butts in the seats to
to have something up up to date and

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high-tech like that.
When the sun's setting

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» told me that, too.
>> Yeah, advertising especially when the

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sun's setting, it's hard to see that
billboard down on the east side. But, I

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think we'll have more people in the
seats because of it, too. It just

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improve the efficiency of the operation.
When we start at night, as that sun's

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going back over the top of that replay
screen we have now, you can't see it

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looking in the sun, so
the one on the far end.

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For the shoot seats that can't see that
replay screen anyway, we went and bought

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a 75-in TV and hooked it into our board,
and it's hung on the side of the

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announcer's booth, so that shoot seat
bunch can see it through that TV.

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So, we cured one of those but
it's not very big. You got to squint

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pretty good to see it.
All I know is I couldn't see who won

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that one Indian race. It was so close.
And when I was looking down here, I

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couldn't see it. I really wanted to know
for sure who won that.

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Do you have money bet on it? No.
>> [laughter]

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» That's what I wanted to know. That's his
story, and he's sticking to it. And out

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there, I saw the probably the best race
I've ever seen.

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You couldn't tell who won. Yeah, no, the
relay judges really like this because we

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can replay it, replay it, replay it for
them, and they can Yeah.

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It's a very needed item.
It is.

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Don't you agree, Whitney?
So, old board, agree?

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Mr. You agree?
The ex-legislator, you agree?

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Very good. Everybody [laughter] down
there agrees.

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Sheriff, you agree, too, don't you? Shh.
Sheriff's giving you a thumbs up.

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» [laughter]

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» Anybody have any further questions?
For me.

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Good job. Thank you guys very much.
Ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate it.

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Appreciate the whole board coming out.
It's good seeing you guys again. Thank

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you.

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See you again.
See you again. Good to see you.

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See you later. Thanks, Mr.
Thanks always.

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Your cousin problems again.
No, that

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fellow behind you.

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Thanks.

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Michael, good to see you.

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Now, you're you're Michael Brown, right?
Haven't seen you for a while.

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You're getting younger, I think.
Shouldn't your chairman be up there with

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you?
Yeah.

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» [laughter]

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» Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. As a point of
order, I kind of wondered what

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Commissioner North's role was going to
be in this and whether he'll be more

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present since he's
a voting member of both the Board of

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Trustees and of this body,
if maybe one of the other board members

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we have at least two here present might
assist Mr. Brown if necessary and

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and then
I wondered whether Commissioner North is

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going to recuse himself from some or all
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uh decision-making.
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I don't think presenting this at this
point in time is going to make any

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difference one way or another because
there's no decisions made.

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When we're presenting stuff, you can ask
questions and everything else. So, at

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this point in time, I don't think
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any conflict. I don't think there's
anything else.

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So,
Michael's going to be going over this.

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He's the one that presented this to the
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and the entire board
approved this. So,

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I will be here
basically

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in case there's any questions directed
toward the board specifically.

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Do you two want to come up and sit up
here too or a little bit or or you you

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get back there? Okay.
All right. Um as we are just presenting

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uh we'll worry about it right now, but
this may have to come up

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at a later point in the discussion,
okay?

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Okay. Pearl Street Bridge when we get
there.

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All right, Mr. Chairman, if you're
ready, I'll start. Um

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So,

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with the we'll start with the mountain
budget.

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Parks has two separate budgets.
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currently uh in the parks mountain
budget, I have um

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portions of salaries for five full-time
employees and two part-time employees.

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Uh last year
administrative staff was um

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put at 40% at
on the mountain and 60% on the lake. Um

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when we were doing budget reductions
last June,

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I modified that slightly and went with a
point 4167%

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um and the reason for that is that is a
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five full months of staff on the
mountain, seven full months of admin

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staff on at the lake. It's just an
easier break,

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uh, budget-wise and payroll-wise to to
do that. So, just kind of clarified that

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a little bit. So, there's a slight
increase there.

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Um,
we're still waiting to, um, hire one

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more full-time operator
and one seasonal, um,

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finding, uh,
the right fit for the full-time operator

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on the mountain is a It's been a
challenge.

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Uh, the applications we're receiving,
um, either have no equipment experience

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or very little.
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so, we're still looking. Uh,
fortunately, this winter with snow

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grooming,
it was very light, so we were able to

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handle it with one operator.
Um, but we'll continue looking for that

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position. So, that's built into these
salaries, um,

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overall, I I did I know the request was
to decrease where necessary, um, I did

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increase the mountain budget by 1.75%,
which is $11,149.

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Um,
some of that increase came from, uh,

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contract labor, which I increased by
$20,000.

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That includes a a grooming contract for
biathlon up to $20,000. We'll have to,

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uh, settle on that contract, um, in the
coming months after the budget's

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approved with Casper Mountain Biathlon
Club.

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Um,
Central Wyoming Trail Main, uh,

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Alliance, uh, requested some funds for
summer maintenance, summer trail

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maintenance, and and winter trail
maintenance. They do the winter grooming

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on our single track that's used for
snowshoes and fat bikes.

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Uh, $5,000, and then summer maintenance,
um, they've been helping us out for

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several years on on maintaining um
down trees and hazard trees and and

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doing the work on the summer trail
master plan improving that. So, um parks

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board decided that would be
beneficial to look into providing funds

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to them.
Uh I also like to bring on the Wyoming

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Conservation Corps again this summer
uh for a hitch in July. That's six

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individuals for six days.
Uh Rotary Park the trail system there

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still needs improvement. The
the the cable railing needs a lot of

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work. Some of the other trails need some
work and erosion control. So, there's

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there's plenty of work there.
And and that uh

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that's work that my staff can't handle.
We just don't have the people or the

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time to do that with everything else.
Um the miscellaneous contract of $5,000

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um that's just a kit as a as a little
bit of a catchall to

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case contract comes up um
for repairs or something that we need to

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do.
Uh the other increase

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was in repair maintenance and contracts.
So, we have Starlink at the trail

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center.
Um that's been carried in the

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communications budget of the county with
IT.

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Um speaking with IT uh it was decided
that that should probably go into the

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parks budget um as the parks is a
administrative board now

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uh to start carrying those over. And
that runs about $2,000 a year.

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Our maintenance shop on the mountain uh
the lighting there

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is old halogen lights. Uh they take a
long time to warm up. Sometimes they

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don't work. Uh we'd like to upgrade
those to LEDs. Um

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speaking with one electrician
I think we could do most of it between 5

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and $8,000. Um Um, part of that shop is
utilized by Roden Bridge, so

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uh, there's a possibility they could
put some funding in there, but um,

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speaking with the electrician, we don't
have to do them all at once. So, if we

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could get started with 5 grand, we would
do the ones that they're used all the

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time.
Um, so we have better lighting in there

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to work.
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I did a small increase for Hells Half
Acre line item of 1,500 dollars.

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This is due to um, the improvements
we've done out there and the increased

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maintenance those will require. Um,
going out there, possible replacement of

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boards if they get broken on the new
boardwalk, um,

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replacement of signs, just general
maintenance of the area. So, we increase

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that by 1,500 dollars.
And the last line item on the mountain

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budget that was increased was um,
it's called RMP implementation and

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resource management plan.
I included 10,000 dollars again this

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year for additional gravel for the lodge
parking. It may or may not be necessary.

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It may not need that much. Um,
it's quite an improvement from last

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year.
So, um,

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I put that in there so we can do that.
Uh, we are still

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I'm pursuing quotes. I have not received
them yet to put the storm drain inlet in

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as well. Uh, so some of that money may
be used um,

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to fund that contract.
Uh, I also included archery targets

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again. We had 35,000 dollars yet last
year. We requested 70.

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Uh,
What's that? Nothing. Those targets are

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on order uh, out of this current budget
and will be

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um, paid for this fiscal year, but I
asked for it again. Now, we do have a

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grant application pending.
Um, I don't want to call the total

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amount for that. Um
with Easton archery, uh

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we have not been denied our application
yet. We made it through the process a

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couple of steps, but we haven't heard
final yet.

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Uh so, we may or may not need those
funds.

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Um
and then I had $5,000 for for site

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improvements, uh
redoing, um signs, uh some campsite

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improvements, replacing a few fire
rings,

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and such. Um
I'm good.

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Go ahead. On the archery grant,
hopefully we will know that before we

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get to the point where
we're looking at the final budget. Uh

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that had to be submitted
by

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February 1st of this year, and the fact
that we're still in an administrative

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review by Easton
is a pretty good sign that

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that they're not they haven't kicked us
out for deficiencies or anything more

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like that, so
hopefully that will come through, and

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that will help out quite a bit.

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Go ahead.
Uh

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what's the status of the shelters?
Um so, we have submitted an

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application, uh through
the state of Wyoming outdoor wreck fund.

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Uh
we made it through the first hurdle. Uh

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we'll be doing a site inspection with
some of the uh

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board members that select where the
funds go for that grant on June 19th.

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Uh so, once we make that hurdle, we'll
see see if we can get approved or not.

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Um
What are those going to cost for, you

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know,
you get the cost down on those?

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I I think we can do them
somewhere in the 120 range. That's what

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they've always been. No, the one was
$236,000

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was the bid we got for the custom one.
We simplified them some. We removed

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We've gone back to the old location, so
we don't have

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new road to build. We don't have
additional parking to build. Um

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Not my first choice, however, um
to to get them there.

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So, um
the grant required a match

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and with a
out of 1% 17, that's my next request was

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uh
We had $40,000 in fiscal year 26 for an

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outhouse replacement. Well, uh a double
stall outhouse is close to $100,000 now.

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Um
the single stall at Hills Have Acres was

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$67,000.
>> No, we've been at this for the whole my

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whole term of 4 years.
Well, I've been This will be the third

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time I've applied for a grant for
funding for those shelters.

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Um sometimes I I think I think there's
with outdoor rec, I I believe some

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individuals don't necessarily think of
shelter as outdoor rec. It's not a

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trail, it's not a bike trail, it's not
hiking, swimming, hunting, fishing. It's

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It's a place to sit.
However, it is outside. It's It's more

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of a gathering point, but uh
um

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I'm I'm hopeful with this this round of
grant application.

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But, in the 1% uh
Yes, sir.

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We do have an on-site with the uh the
board in June of this year.

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So, we did make it through the first
first round.

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Uh they cut it down from about 85 people
down to or 85 applications down

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[clears throat] to about 35.
So, we're we are moving forward with

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that and
that We'll find out more. that that

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funding won't be available until after
July 1st. But hopefully

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we'll move forward. We have had a lot of
community support

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for that grant request this time around.
Thank you. Michael. Yes, sir.

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Your answer, your narrative, and
everything pretty quick.

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Uh just a couple of bullet points I
wanted to hit here. Uh

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additional 20,000 for contract labor.
Why?

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00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Um well, that was $10,000 to Central
Wyoming Trails Alliance. Um

437
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:10,800
And then the Wyoming Conservation Corps,
we don't do that every year.

438
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:16,760
And um last year we reduced
the contract labor and only paid Casper

439
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Mountain Avalanche Club $10,000
uh for the grooming.

440
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Uh it has been at 20,000. I wanted to at
least

441
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,480
include that as an opportunity of up to
20,000 so that when we negotiate that

442
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,280
agreement
if um

443
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:37,080
cuz County Parks can't can't do the
grooming over there

444
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:41,360
uh for several reasons. Um
staffing's one reason. The other reason

445
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,360
is we we can't access our equipment
through a good part of the winter uh cuz

446
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,880
Tower Hill
uh blows clear and we don't like to

447
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:56,440
drive our tracked equipment over big
large rocks and tear it up. Um to groom.

448
00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:01,880
Okay. Well, that's good. Um then in
repair and maintenance it increased by

449
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:08,080
7,000.
What was the increase? So, that was uh

450
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:16,160
to bring in the uh contract for Starlink
internet from IT's communication budget

451
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:19,520
and to upgrade the shop lights. Okay.
Those are listed right below that.

452
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,240
» Mr. Chairman, that's on page two.
>> Oh, he's he's looking at the budget

453
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,760
sheet.
>> Yeah, that's on page

454
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,360
» Yeah, no, I I got it. I'm just hitting a
couple of old points. I want to make

455
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:31,640
sure I verify them. Good with
And no bear trap again this year.

456
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,920
Correct. There's no music festival this
year.

457
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:41,160
That was Townsquare Media's decision.
Uh they notified me I think

458
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,560
two, maybe three months ago.
What was the reason?

459
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:50,720
Uh same as the year before. They want to
uh

460
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,560
realign their priorities and and what
they

461
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,680
uh
envision that event should be.

462
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,760
Um so
uh or at least that's what I was told.

463
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Uh they're under new management.
>> of stuff going on over there. Yeah.

464
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:11,880
And then the R&P is up significantly as
well. Um

465
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:19,360
So I included last year the archery
target $35,000 was in a

466
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,520
uh capital outlay fund. Mhm. And so I
put it under

467
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:28,920
this implementation. That may not be
needed if we get the grant. Okay.

468
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,160
And then additional gravel for lodge
parking center if that

469
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,800
Any other questions for the mountain
portion?

470
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Mr. Did you want me to go through the 1%
requests?

471
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:50,600
I suppose.
So in the um

472
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:55,240
schedule for 1% 17
uh parks had $250,000 for a front end

473
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,440
loader.
Uh we're going to pursue that this year.

474
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:06,160
More more likely it's going to be used
equipment. Prime example is uh we needed

475
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:09,840
to use our snowcat to remove snow on the
mountain out of our parking lots because

476
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,560
road and bridge was utilizing their
loader that's stored on the mountain. So

477
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,080
it wasn't available.
Uh this happened several times

478
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,240
throughout the year where we could use
the loader. Uh we have a backhoe, but

479
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,640
with 2 ft of wet snow, a backhoe's not
going to do it.

480
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Um
the outhouse replacement that was on um

481
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:36,160
fiscal year 16 1% for $40,000,
I'm requesting to carry that over and

482
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:40,480
use that as a match for the shelter
grant. That's part of the match. The

483
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,840
other part is um
in-kind labor

484
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:50,280
and assistance from Road Bridge.
Um

485
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:54,880
the other fiscal year 16 1% was a 40 by
60 cold storage

486
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:59,680
uh for a maintenance area to to relieve
congestion within the shop.

487
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:04,640
I'd like to carry that over until
the property is settled. I I didn't want

488
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:09,120
to build a building on property that we
don't have a right to at this time.

489
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:15,080
So, um
So, those are my requests on the 1%.

490
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Mr. Chairman. Go ahead. The only figure
that is um

491
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:25,360
reflected in your current budget request
is the $250,000.

492
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,920
As Michael alluded to, the other two
amounts were

493
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:33,200
this current fiscal 1 cent. So, if we
were to um approve those expenditures,

494
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,000
they would become out of the 1 cent
reserve.

495
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,440
Thank you.
Thank you.

496
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:46,320
And and just to note, a few years back,
I had $300,000 to replace the uh

497
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:50,480
trail center waterline. Uh it was
determined it wasn't necessary. That was

498
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:55,640
a 1%
uh funding deal that that we turned

499
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:58,320
back. So, we have turned back some
um

500
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:02,040
1% money for for the mountain in the
past 4 years.

501
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,840
Okay.
Any questions?

502
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Lake.
Okay, so our projected revenue for

503
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:17,680
fiscal year 27 at the lake is $1.272
million.

504
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Our projected expenditure is $1.218
million.

505
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:27,800
Currently, as of March 31st,
there was a reserve balance of $1.067

506
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,600
million.
Um

507
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:37,240
I anticipate having a positive year-end
reserve balance of $867,000,

508
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:42,600
approximately.
Um after taking an admin cost put in the

509
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:49,800
lake
admin

510
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:55,080
line item at 20% of $255,000.
Um

511
00:42:51,840 --> 00:43:02,880
So, with the lake, we generate our own
revenue, we balance our budget, we build

512
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,880
an account for capital projects. Um

513
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:12,280
There was a
I guess a significant increase in the

514
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:17,160
budget this year. Well, overall,
uh there was an increase from 26 budget

515
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,840
of 7.66%.
Um which is equal to $86,690.

516
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Um the major increases there were
um

517
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:35,520
the lake sewer expense. Um
Our lagoon

518
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:40,840
We have two floating aerators. Um
however, our BOD, which is biological

519
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,280
I'm not really good with the
terminology. Anyways,

520
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,960
Yeah.
That uh

521
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:54,200
We're reaching our limit on that, and we
need to pump more oxygen, take care of

522
00:43:51,520 --> 00:44:01,080
sludge better. So, we're looking at a uh
a bubbler system, and it's approximately

523
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:06,640
in the 90 to $100,000 range.
Um so, that was big increase here. A big

524
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:12,320
decrease was to capital equipment of
$95,000.

525
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:16,240
And the reason for that was
um I moved

526
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:20,680
some of the projects into the master
plan implementation, and that's why that

527
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:26,535
increased to 100,000.
So, that was just kind of a switch to to

528
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,555
better track what we're doing there.
>> [clears throat]

529
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:38,720
» So, lake lake sewer expense projects are
in general maintenance and repair of our

530
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:44,920
systems,
and then replacement of the lagoon

531
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:50,000
aeration with micro bubblers. Um
the capital expense, we are still

532
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,080
it's questionable, but we're still
trying to figure out what's required by

533
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,840
the EPA for our
backup generators for our well and our

534
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:03,960
lift stations.
Um so, we're

535
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:09,520
we haven't spent that money yet because
we want to make sure that it's a

536
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:11,880
requirement um before we do that, and
sometimes it's hard to get those

537
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,040
answers.
Uh

538
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:19,040
we'd like to uh
continue on a program where we're

539
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:23,440
replacing outhouse doors and frames.
Uh we've

540
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:28,680
carried a budget of $35,000 for several
fiscal years now.

541
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:34,040
Um we have 53 doors within the lake
area.

542
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:39,800
53 what? 53 doors or 53 outhouse vaults
uh to maintain. And so, doing 10 at a

543
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:44,360
time kind of keeps us in a cycle of of
overall maintenance, and it's

544
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,120
less heartburn than trying to do them
all at once.

545
00:45:46,446 --> 00:45:53,800
» [clears throat]
>> I also have um this is an ongoing deal

546
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:58,240
is $30,000 for picnic tables and fire
rings. Um

547
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,880
those constantly need replaced.
People back into them, people burn them,

548
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:08,160
people
um yeah, they just wear out.

549
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:14,240
And then for additional projects in
>> a piece? No, that's for pro- 30,000 will

550
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:18,880
probably get us
10 to 12 tables and 10 to 12 fire rings.

551
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,880
Um
under the master plan, additional

552
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,360
campground improvements, we still like
to

553
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:34,560
improve, uh
Westside campground, do dirt work,

554
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:39,200
signage, leveling, um quite a bit of
work there.

555
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:46,000
And then the new maintenance shop, um
this is carried over from last year.

556
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:49,800
The site that we were really looking at
to start with was on Bureau of

557
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:55,080
Reclamation Um, so it would not be
counting on property. Um, it was going

558
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:58,760
to require a significant amount of dirt
work. Uh, just looking at it, we were

559
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,800
looking at
8 to 10 ft of cut and fill on each side

560
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:09,200
of the um
site to level it out as well as um the

561
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:14,280
road grade going in there, even though
it's only a 300 ft, was going to be 8%,

562
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:18,680
which is fairly steep when you're
pulling trailers and things from a stop.

563
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:23,600
So, um
I've got a new site.

564
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Uh, I need to I'm working on a plan. Uh,
this would include

565
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:32,640
uh, discussion of a of a land swap
between the county and the BLM.

566
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,680
I'm working out the details right now. I
have not discussed it with the BLM.

567
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,760
That's that's the next step.
Um

568
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,800
and then bring that forward and the
possibility of it to the commissioners.

569
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:51,360
There's there's county property that is
not used and probably will never be used

570
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,760
that I think would work well uh, for
this.

571
00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:03,080
And um
I think that's really the summary

572
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,480
of the lake.
Uh

573
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:11,280
it was requested to
uh determine the cost of the wage

574
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:15,560
increases for a 1.5% increase.
Those increases are included in my

575
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:20,040
proposed budget. However, on page six, I
did detail out um

576
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:25,280
those costs
of what that's going to cost.

577
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:29,000
So, the mountain is $1,097
in total for wages and benefits to put

578
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,640
that in place.
And the lake is $1,382.

579
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Any questions?

580
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:46,400
Mr. Chairman. Go ahead.
Michael

581
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,520
you mentioned a potential land swap with
the BLM.

582
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,520
Um

583
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Go on, Peter. I'm sorry. You didn't
misspeak and mean the BOR, I No. So,

584
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:14,440
I'm not 100% comfortable with the
$100,000 for building

585
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:21,080
and site plan design
knowing how many years it takes to do

586
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:26,240
one of these land swaps. So, I almost
think that that's kind of just a

587
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,720
placeholder that we don't really need to
um retain. We don't really need a

588
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,760
placeholder for.
So, I hope you understand because I I

589
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,360
know in the private industry or the
private realm

590
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:41,360
um
a land swap with the BLM is

591
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,160
probably a different thing than maybe
with a governmental entity, but I'm

592
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:49,480
assuming that there still are all kinds
of um

593
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:53,600
reviews, environmental reviews, and and
other kind of hoops and hurdles to jump

594
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,880
through and over.
Um

595
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:02,080
I'm sure there'll be environmental
review, probably an environmental

596
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:06,480
assessment um through NEPA by the BLM.
Uh depending on that um

597
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:14,080
the ground that the
parks would like to own or the county

598
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:19,680
own is a 40 acres behind
the current lake maintenance shop. And

599
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:23,240
we currently have a special use permit
with the BLM to store empty boat

600
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:29,280
trailers there
uh on that parcel. It's fairly flat and

601
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:35,000
the
county own property is over by Steamboat

602
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:39,920
Lake. There's 159 acres on the south
side of Steamboat Lake that's owned by

603
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:44,400
the county. It butts up to state and BLM
properties. Uh

604
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:50,880
I don't think it's being used for
anything. I don't think there's any

605
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:56,720
future use for it. Um so um they may be
enticed by and I have no idea how long

606
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:59,000
it's going to take. I I'm going to
uh

607
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:03,520
reach out to the BLM in the next few
weeks and start having these discussions

608
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:08,560
and maybe we'll have a better timeline
at that point. But uh

609
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:14,560
the ground a good
6 to 8 acres of the 40 acres is already

610
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:19,640
disturbed ground that uh
the parks would like the county to

611
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:25,920
acquire for for use of the shop.
Um the Bureau of Rec if we put it on

612
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:29,400
Bureau of Rec property uh we
will still go through environmental

613
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:35,040
assessment. It would just be part of our
management agreement. And the current

614
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:40,840
management agreement expires in 2041, so
the pench potential of

615
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:44,560
an expensive building on property the
county does not own

616
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,360
um
doesn't sit very well with with me to be

617
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,960
honest. So I'd rather pursue this
process. And I understand what you're

618
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,520
saying is we could
we could take that placeholder out.

619
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,040
Um
it would just be in the reserve fund,

620
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:04,160
restricted fund to be used later.
Um but if there's surveying required, if

621
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:08,160
the BLM requires the county to do the
surveying on the

622
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,440
on the parcels that may be swapped, you
know, funding for that would be

623
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:16,520
beneficial.
Uh this $100,000 was originally for site

624
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:21,400
plan to basically survey the area.
Get Get the boundaries determined and

625
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:27,520
the grading plan for the site. So, I
think I think you got to remove a zero

626
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:31,880
from that and say $10,000 for some
preliminary design, conceptual

627
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:36,120
surveying.
But I I don't think we need to allocate

628
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:40,800
$100,000 to that.
Um just doesn't doesn't seem

629
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:46,480
appropriate. The other thing is at what
point does this become a BOCC

630
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,840
conversation rather than uh the Board of
Trustees, Parks, um

631
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,600
and a
uh Michael Brown, Parks Director

632
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:59,320
discussion because we need to go be be
very thoughtful about um

633
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:03,800
getting rid of county land, as I've
always stated in every every instance,

634
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:09,560
and then we need to be
um fully on board with doing our duty to

635
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:14,600
the public about acquiring. So, whether
it's a swap, a purchase, or a

636
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:18,880
divestment, um these are things that I
think need to be in front of the county

637
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,320
at at the appropriate time.
>> So, I'm just not sure when that is.

638
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,040
» As the Parks Director, my plan was to
contact the BLM, have a general

639
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:32,040
discussion about it, and see if they're
even amenable

640
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:37,280
to this idea. Um I can certainly bring
it to the county commissioners

641
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,960
with a proposal before I
reach out to the BLM and have those

642
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:45,840
discussions if if that's better
direction.

643
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,840
Commissioner Nickolaisen, the uh
since these are extremely strictly lake

644
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,720
funds money and they can't be used
anywhere else,

645
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:58,320
what that allocation does is it helps us
also maintain with the BOR

646
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,880
to pull to carry those funds over from
year to year. So, if we have that

647
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:06,600
allocation in there,
it shows that we have

648
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:11,160
a plan to move forward at some point in
time, but it doesn't necessarily

649
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:15,480
obligate us until we have everything in
place, but by having that, because we

650
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:20,480
have to go to the BOR
and and request that carryover, this

651
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:25,840
shows that we do have a plan for it, and
it helps to preserve that

652
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:30,600
that funding by doing that.
Uh thank you,

653
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:36,920
Commissioner, Trustee, Chairman North.
My um thinking is that's kind of like

654
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:41,040
when we have department heads or
elected officials or others telling us,

655
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,480
"Well, we we have this budget item in
there just to have it in there so we

656
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:52,280
don't lose it."
Um there might be a better um

657
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:56,600
use for allocation of of that $100,000.
So, just because it's there

658
00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,320
doesn't necessarily
um

659
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,640
incentivize me to keep it there. I think
I think there needs to be a purpose. So,

660
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:08,360
it it just might be
um a philosophical difference of opinion

661
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:12,400
on what the appropriate amount is and
whether there's any amount carried over

662
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:17,520
or also that. Well, like I said, this
this is these are lake fund fund money.

663
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:25,280
I'm I'm clearly aware of that.
>> And uh and the BOR is the one that can

664
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:28,680
say yes or no. And if they say no, then
the funding that we have reverts back to

665
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,800
the BOR.
Well, So, this this this just gives us a

666
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:38,000
little bit more security.
>> could be used for at the lake where uh

667
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,720
maybe some of the constituents out there
might have a a different feeling of

668
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:45,800
whether
that should be allocated for that or for

669
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:51,400
who knows whether it's cabin side or the
the trailer side or the uh

670
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:54,680
or the campgrounds. So, anyway,
that's just my two cents.

671
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,533
Michael.
Yes.

672
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,840
The the
>> [sighs]

673
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,880
» 1.27
is

674
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:12,600
all that restricted lake funds or is
that some Yeah. That is all restricted

675
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,600
lake funds. Our um

676
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:21,120
So, we have currently we have two
different restricted funds out there. Um

677
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,760
and then
we're working on the process to do an

678
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,200
and what do we call it? A
administrative a lake administrative

679
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:35,800
restricted account um under the
management agreement where

680
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:39,880
allowed stake at admin costs. Um and
they don't dictate the percentage.

681
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:43,600
So, we also have a
lake water

682
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:49,560
and sewer restricted fund. And that
balance

683
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,560
as of March 31st was $128,725.

684
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,680
Uh
that's what pays for an example, we

685
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:59,720
replaced two lift station pumps in the
last month. That was $26,000.

686
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,320
Um
our our water and sewer repairs have

687
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:09,640
been um
rootax treated in the sewer system.

688
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:14,400
Um things like that come out of that
fund. And that fund

689
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:19,000
doesn't have any capital outlay. We have
a 70-year-old system and we're not

690
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,560
building that fund. It's been decreasing
over the last

691
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,920
five years at least.
Um

692
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,880
And we're probably $100,000 down in the
last five years.

693
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Um due to all the repairs and things
that that had to do on that system.

694
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:40,240
Um
I have increased the uh uh service fees

695
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:43,960
for water and sewer. I brought them um
more on par with

696
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,880
uh several different municipalities
within the region.

697
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,960
And took that average and that's what
I'm charging now.

698
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,920
Which was a significant increase to the
permit fees over there. But that will at

699
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:59,080
least
keep the bleeding of this account down

700
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:03,080
and hopefully increase it a little bit
at a time.

701
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Uh so that we build this uh for these
major repairs that we have.

702
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Okay.
And And the current restricted fund

703
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:20,040
balance is $1.067
million as of March 31st.

704
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Uh I expect $887,000

705
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:27,680
in um revenue in the next
month.

706
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Probably that would go into the
restricted fund.

707
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:49,000
I should not have that sheet with me.
No.

708
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,440
Um
Yeah, that's approximate.

709
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Um due to the water permit fees that are
due um June 8th.

710
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:03,320
So we expect to have most of that and
most of that comes in at the end of the

711
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:07,640
fiscal year, so we use it to fund our
budget uh for the next fiscal year. And

712
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,520
that's why we don't carry over as much
money as we used to.

713
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520
Okay.

714
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,520
Any other questions?

715
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,120
We're good. Thank you.

716
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,080
» Here we got a couple minutes.

717
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,600
Everybody but you.
Everybody but you.

718
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,160
3 minutes.