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All right, welcome everyone. I'd like to

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call this meeting to order. Veronica,

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would you do roll call, please? And we

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need to do the um announcement of remote

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attendance. So, why don't we start with

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>> Uh, thank you, Mayor. I want to state

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for the record um that this meeting is

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being conducted pursuant to the

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teleconference rules um under the Brown

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Act and that Council Member Flynn is

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participating remotely uh from Greece.

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Um the address is posted on the agenda.

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I will not try to pronounce the name of

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the street. Uh, and in accordance with

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the Brown Act, uh, the teleconference

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location has been identified in the

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agenda for tonight's meeting. Uh, and I

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want to note for the record that we have

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a quorum of council members present here

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in person. Um, Council Member Flynn, can

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you hear me? Okay.

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>> Yes, I can.

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>> Great. And you have you been able to

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hear the proceedings up until now?

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>> Uh, do you have a a copy of the agenda

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for tonight's meeting?

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>> I do. And have you posted the agenda at

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your location?

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>> And is your location reasonably

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accessible to the public such that any

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member of the public could participate

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in this teleconference from your

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location if he or she wish to do so?

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>> Yes, it is.

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>> And is there any member of the public

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>> Okay, great. Um, and so, uh, as a

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reminder to the council, all votes

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tonight need to be taken by roll call.

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And um now I'd invite the town clerk to

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proceed with the roll call.

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>> Council member Walter

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>> Council member Hasco

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>> Council member Flynn

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>> present.

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>> Vice Mayor Huy

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>> present.

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>> Mayor Taylor

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>> present.

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>> We have a quorum.

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>> Thank you. All right. So our first item

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of business is a proclamation. Helen's

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going to present and I was happy to

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sign. So Helen, go ahead.

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>> Good evening. Thank you, mayor. Um, so

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as many people know, June is Pride

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Month, and here in our community, that

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means something real. We're a small

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town, but we've never been a

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small-minded one. Our neighbors include

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people of every background, every

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identity, every story, and that's not a

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weakness, which is exactly what makes

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this place worth calling home. Pride

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isn't just about celebration, though.

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celebration matters, it's also

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about remembering where we've been. It's

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about remembering the people who stood

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up so that their neighbors, their

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children, and strangers they'd never met

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could live openly, honestly, and with a

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authenticity.

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that history. And here in Porto Valley,

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that history isn't abstract. It's the

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kid in the high school down the street

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um who needs to know they belong.

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okay. Um, it's the couple who moved here

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because they felt safe. Um, it's the

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coworker. I'm like totally tearing up.

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friend, the uncle, and the niece. So,

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this month, let's be intentional. Let's

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make sure every person in this community

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feels genuinely welcome, not just in

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June, but all year long. Happy Pride

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Thank you, Helen.

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>> So, thank you. And I know we have some

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speakers who um folks who have joined me

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to say we can do a stand after.

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>> Hello. Um hi, my name is Marilyn

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Sanonteo County LGBTQIA plus commission

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and um we are delighted we are delighted

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that Portola Valley is doing this. Um,

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part of our job as commissioners is to

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advise the county supervisors on policy,

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on budget and actions um that affect our

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comm the LGBTQIA+, sorry about the

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alphabet, um, community. Um, and so and

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having cities do these types of things

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um, is so meaningful because we could do

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things at the county level. We had a

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pride flag raising. We have a

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proclamation that was issued by the

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board of supervisors, but having each

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town, and most of the towns in the

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county, by the way, are doing this. Um,

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having each town do this brings it

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closer to home, as as Helen said. Um,

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and it's meaningful. It means something

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because when you have a public uh body

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that is publicly saying, "We support, we

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support this community, and this is a

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safe place," it means something. I

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raised my kids in Santa CL in Sonteo

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was this morning and um and knowing that

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it was a safe place that I could go to

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the schools. My my co-mother and I

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brought our child to the first the first

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week of school we went to see the the

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principal and we said we are this

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child's mothers and we don't expect

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there'll be any issues. And this was a

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long time ago. This was 25 years ago.

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and he looked at us and he looked at us

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and he said, "There will be no issues."

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there were questions. Um, you know, when my kids drew the the pictures of

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what their family looked like, the

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teachers would often take us aside and

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say, "Who's this and who's this?" Um,

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because and and it was it was important

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that they felt comfortable asking

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questions and getting to know us and

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that we felt my our children were safe.

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out as transgender in high school at

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Mills High School and was safe.

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was. And I Are we going to do the flag?

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flag raising. Not today. It's okay.

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>> I think we've had it up all day.

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>> So, we have it. It's over at our town

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proclamation when you're ready and we'll

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just say something about the flag and

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why that's important because how many

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people use this facility a lot, right?

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bring their dogs. They bring their kids

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the kids as they're growing up, they'll

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ask, "What is that?" and hopefully their

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parents will say good things about it

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who they are. And so I want to thank you

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on behalf of the commission and the

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county supervisors. I want to thank you

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for doing this for your town. Um and

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invite you by the way to the pride

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celebration that for the county that is

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in San Monteo on Saturday. It's from

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Monteo and it's a family-friendly event

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» Good evening, Darcy Smith. I will give a

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brief report, but first start with

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upcoming town events. So, today was a

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very busy day because we had the

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end of year celebration and tonight we

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were having the Cormandera graduation

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carpull if you can or walk or bike or

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ride your horse. And two, please, if you

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bring trash, pack it out because we

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spent basically all afternoon picking up

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trash, including tiny water balloons,

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which we will not have at Town Center

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again. So, today will always go down as

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the infamous day of the water balloon

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fights that were the last ones at town

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audit which Tony has been living

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breathing losing many hours of sleep

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over. So as you know we completed 2122

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the 2223 audits and all the work that

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done. But most importantly, we've set

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the finance committee meeting for June

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30th at 4 p.m. So, please try to attend

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that. Tony completed the MDNA.

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meant. Management discussion and

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analysis. That's the beginning 10 or so

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pages. The auditor prepared their

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opinion yet letter, which is very

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important. And last, all what's being

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done right now is the very important

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memorandum of internal control. That is

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what it sounds like, the auditor's

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observations and recommendations for any

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compliance items and that's being

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prepared right now, but it will be

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packet which will come out uh about 5

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days before June 30th. That concludes my

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>> Thank you, Darcy.

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my agenda. Everything's open. All right.

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five, oral communications. So is there

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anyone in the schoolhouse that would

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agenda? Kim, please.

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Good evening. This is Kim Giulia,

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division chief and fire marshall with

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Woodside Fire Protection District. It's

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I'm really excited to make this

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announcement because it comes at a good

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time given the safety element meeting

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that just happened is Woodside Fire is

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going to be hosting a town evacuation

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drill

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date set on September 11th of 20

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happened to be on a Friday

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and we thought Hey, what what a great

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date to do this on. It will be of course

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in partnership with the town of Portola

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Valley and staff and partnering

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agencies. So, this will be a large scale

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with having Woodside Fire, Redwood City,

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Menllo Park, PG& Cow Water. So, we are

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making it as real of a drill as we can.

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To answer the biggest question that

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everybody has, not all of the town of

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Portulla Valley is evacuating.

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There will be specific zones that will

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be called out. We are going to be

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utilizing um SMC alert as well as

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Genesis so that people can get familiar

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with using those tools. Some areas will

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be put on warning. Some areas will be

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actually the ones under evacuation. The

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scenario will be shared later on on

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where the fire is actually taking place

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in the district or in sorry in Porto

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Valley. And we through fire modeling are

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getting all the information of data of

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how quickly the fire would actually

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spread and grow, which direction, and

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that's how we're going to call out the

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zones. Currently, Woodside Fire, our

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south zone training, which means Redwood

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City, Cal Fire, uh Menllo Park, they are

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doing wildland fire drill training this week, and they're up in the Los

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Tranos area. There was an announcement

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they put out specifically to the

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residents. they're working out on Red

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Berry Ridge. A lot of it was for a

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familiarization for our adjoining

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jurisdictions who would be coming to our

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aid if there was a wildfire. And it was

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because that area is very complicated.

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And when you're not used to driving in

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areas such as those conditions, it's

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very complicated to fight fires. So,

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they're doing realistic wildland fire

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drills. They are also doing some

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simulated smoke out there. um to make it

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seem as real as possible. They're also

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placarding homes so that homes are used

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to what it is for another jurisdiction

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that has no idea what these houses are

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and basically assessing each house if

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it's a house worth defending or passing

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on because they they aren't able to

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safely protect the structure. So,

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there's a lot of different levels to

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that um evacuation drill that they're

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doing this week. And it comes at a great

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time because now when we come into

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September to do the actual evacuation

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drill, they will have that kind of

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training just fresh in their minds for

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what was done this week. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Kim.

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All right. Is there anybody else that

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would like to make a oral communication?

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Looking online, I see no hands.

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All right. So, I will move on.

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Okay. So moving on to the consent

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agenda.

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Are there I guess let's see we usually

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take

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well okay.

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Thank you.

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Uh go ahead Christie.

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Is it oral communication?

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>> Yes. Thank you.

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Um, I didn't get to talk at

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the last 2-hour meeting, but after

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attending the 5 to7 study session on the

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state safety element, I was interested

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in reading the individual planning

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commission letters such as Ronnie and

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Karen Vatras as a public member. Yet,

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those letters were not made public and

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sent only to the consultant for the 5:00

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meeting. So, this is our town. We live

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in it. And often when we read these

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letters, we often uh it produces

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questions and uh education in our minds

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and whether agreement or not. So it was

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just awkward to only see the BPTS

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letter, one letter listed for the public

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and not the other letters. So, I guess

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my

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question is to always list the letters

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so the public can read um because we

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like education. Um

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let's see. Consider requesting um

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from the state to have the ability to

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have a third lane on our evacuation

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exits. I think that's an important

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request from Karen Vatra. I want to see

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a practiced evacuation and I was so

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happy to see that. Thank you, Kim. I

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don't even have to read it. Um,

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we would like to see the color changes

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on the new and old terminology of the

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safety element and be able to see the

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state requirements versus our local uh

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requirements that we're adding. I want

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to see the exact process for if there

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was an earthquake to occur. And I want

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to thank the geological committee for an

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excellent committee meeting yesterday.

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Uh it was very educational and I

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encourage everyone to listen to that

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meeting. Um you know something I gained

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from the meeting is 6.7 or greater

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earthquake may happen in the Bay Area

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and there's twothirds of a chance in the

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next 30 years. So um let's get on top of

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this. Thank you.

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>> Thank you Christie.

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All right. So, I will now open up public

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comment on the consent agenda. So, I see

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no one in the room.

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Is there anyone online that wants to

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make a comment about the consent agenda?

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All right. I see no hands online, so I'm

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going to close public comment. Um, are

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there any,

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excuse me, consent agenda items that

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any, um, council member would like to

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pull, Ellen?

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>> Um, I'd like to pull uh 6C, please.

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>> And I have a question on D.

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>> 6B. Did you say

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>> D?

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Okay. And did you want to pull it for

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discussion or is it a quick question?

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>> I think it's a more complicated

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question.

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>> Okay. So, we should pull it.

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All right. So, I would entertain a

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motion for A, B, E, and F.

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>> Motion to approve 6 A, B, E, and F.

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>> Second.

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>> Thank you. We have a motion in a second.

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Ronic, can we have roll call?

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>> Council Council Member Walter.

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>> I.

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>> Council member Hasco.

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>> I.

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>> Council member Flynn.

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>> I.

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>> Vice Mayor Huy.

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>> I.

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>> Mayor Taylor.

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>> I.

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>> Motion carries 5-0. Okay. So, let's

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start with 6C.

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Ellen, what's your

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>> Yep. Um,

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>> question comment.

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>> So, I wanted to be clear on the costs of

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the EV charging situation.

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Um, sorry, I'm getting to that on my um

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So, is the cost 322,695

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less? It says entitlement portion is

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currently estimated at 53,000.

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711

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could I so because init our grant is for

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317

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so has have there been so are we've gone

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up in cost I need clarification on this

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my understanding the costs are still

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what was identified in the budget the

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you know the 320,000

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grant plus the 64

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or 67,000 for cost. So that's our

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portion of the costs for the project.

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But with now that we're going to be

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combining resources there, there are

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opportunities for cost efficiency. So it

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could go down. So but as I rec so what

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I'm unclear on is um is the entitlement

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portion which could go down because of

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the scale of economy. Um, and obviously

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this was not supposed it was supposed to

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be not in cash but in staff time,

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>> correct?

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>> So is that still that's still the same.

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So you're saying the entitlement

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uh portion is for staff time.

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>> Mhm.

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>> Okay, great. That's what I wanted to

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clarify. Thank you.

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>> Okay. Any other questions on C?

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>> Just a real quick one. Um, and it it

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goes to the contract itself. we are

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promising to

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indemnify and hold harmless these other

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jurisdictions which are way bigger than

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us. Um is that I don't want to get into

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the legal theory but I just want to make

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sure that's been looked at by

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um the town attorney and and viewed as

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ordinary course. It's on page 32

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in the packet or 33 depending.

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I will say yes um we did provide legal

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review of thisou and it is based on

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otherus that the cities within the

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county have entered into for other types

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of projects. So this is yeah a bit of a

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standard form. I do hear your point

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about relative size between these four

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jurisdictions though.

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>> Yeah and I assume it only kicks in if we

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do something bad.

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>> Correct.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Anything

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bad?

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>> Yeah. No bad. All right. Any other

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comments on 6C? All right. I'd entertain

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a motion for 6 C.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

504
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>> Thank you. Motion is second. Bronick.

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Roll call.

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>> Council member Walter.

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>> I.

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>> Council member Hasco.

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>> I.

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>> Council member Flynn.

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>> I.

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>> Vice Mayor Hufty.

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>> I.

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>> Mayor Taylor.

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>> I.

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>> Motion carries.

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>> Thank you. Judith 16.

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>> Yeah. So mot uh good to see them moving

519
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on uh legislation on organized metal

520
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theft. That's we've obviously been

521
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significantly impacted. My question is

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trying to make sure that we haven't

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invested a ton of legal fees analyzing

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legislation that's probably going to

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change. I assume this is like a form

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that other jurisdictions have signed up

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to.

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Yes. So,

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in a simple

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world, we get off we often get requests

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from the League of California Cities,

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which we're a member of, and they send

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us these sample letters. And believe me,

534
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we get a ton and usually I sort through

535
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them and don't believe that they weren't

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bringing to council, but especially

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given the public concerns about the

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telecommunications

539
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copper theft recently and the fact that

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it's ongoing and pervasive throughout

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the state. I thought after conferring

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with the mayor and vice mayor, this was

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warrant warranted bringing to council,

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but it was a very minimal amount of work

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and they are form letters

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>> because the legislation's going to

547
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,799
change. I'm I just want to make sure

548
00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,400
we're not committing to weigh in on a

549
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,559
constant basis. Okay. Um all good then.

550
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:07,200
Motion to approve 6D unless there's

551
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,960
other questions. I didn't mean to get

552
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,640
ahead of the process. Were there any

553
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,200
other questions or discussion on 16?

554
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,440
Okay, great. So, we've got a motion and

555
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,400
a second. Roll call, please.

556
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,840
>> Council member Walter,

557
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,240
>> I.

558
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,679
>> Council member Hesco,

559
00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:22,080
>> I.

560
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320
>> Council member Flynn,

561
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,200
>> I.

562
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720
>> Vice Mayor Huy,

563
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,120
>> I.

564
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,000
>> Mayor Taylor,

565
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,400
>> I.

566
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,440
>> Motion carries.

567
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,280
>> Thank you. All right. I'm going to close

568
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,159
out agenda item six and move on to

569
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:38,320
agenda seven. So 7A is reauthorizing the

570
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,240
town treasurer.

571
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,960
So Tony, is this your staff report?

572
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600
>> Uh yes. And this is a pretty much an

573
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,760
administrative matter. Every year we're

574
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,120
required by the code to reauthorize the

575
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,600
town manager as town treasurer. U

576
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,880
included in this year was a small slight

577
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,080
uh clerical change to the investment

578
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,400
policy where uh authority was delegated

579
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,640
to the finance manager. that position

580
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520
will not be filled um this year being be

581
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,960
replaced by the assistant town manager.

582
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,120
So we just changed the language uh from

583
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,400
finance manager to assistant town

584
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,559
manager but this is a an annual

585
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,320
administrative process that the the town

586
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,960
is required to do by the municipal code.

587
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,880
>> Okay. Thank you. Any clarifying

588
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,880
questions for Tony?

589
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,400
All right. Let me see if there's any

590
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,120
public comment. So I see no no public

591
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,720
comment in the room. Is there any public

592
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,269
comment online?

593
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,440
All right. I see no public comment, so I

594
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440
bring it back. But I get a motion for

595
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,240
7A.

596
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,320
>> Um I minor

597
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:42,799
>> sorry

598
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:46,880
>> clerical effect. Um page 60. Bunch of

599
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,440
typos and grammatical issues. So

600
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,960
including Mayor Craig Taylor.

601
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,600
>> So just clean it up, please. It's my

602
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,919
only request.

603
00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:00,240
>> So can you just give them a after the

604
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,960
back? Just

605
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, no. So, I'm I'm ready to

606
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,440
approve it.

607
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,440
>> Yeah. No, that great. Thank you.

608
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,240
>> Take that on.

609
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,559
>> Okay. So, can I get a motion to approve

610
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:09,520
7A?

611
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,120
>> Motion to approve 7A.

612
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,320
>> Thank you. Second.

613
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,200
>> Second.

614
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,000
>> Thank you, Veronica. Roll call.

615
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,080
>> Council member Walter.

616
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,919
>> I. Council member Husco.

617
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,480
>> I. Council member Flynn.

618
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,360
>> I.

619
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,880
>> Vice Mayor Hufty.

620
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,360
>> I.

621
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,240
>> Mayor Taylor.

622
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,559
>> I.

623
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:27,520
>> Motion carries.

624
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,240
>> Thank you. All right. Moving on to 7B.

625
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,840
provide an update and receive direction

626
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320
on proposed budget for fiscal years

627
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,789
2627. Tony,

628
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:46,310
» thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, good evening.

629
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:53,830
Your presentation will be brief. Um,

630
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,000
have not changed much since the finance

631
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:10,789
committee presentation of I think

632
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,480
So tonight we'll I'll give you a brief

633
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,200
overview of um the preliminary uh 2627

634
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000
budget. um primarily focusing on the

635
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,520
general fund because that is our main

636
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159
operating fund and there's really not a

637
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:26,559
lot of activity in our other funds um

638
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,919
that are um

639
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:33,120
out of the ordinary uh some carryover

640
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,240
activity from 2526 but this presentation

641
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,760
will primarily focus on the general

642
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,159
funding

643
00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:42,559
so but I wanted to give you an update on

644
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,159
2425

645
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:47,360
um and these are numbers as of May uh

646
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,039
revenue revenues are about 7 million. Um

647
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,679
about 88% of the budget. Uh so 11 months

648
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:57,600
into the year, we're right on track with

649
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,799
budget. Um so we're anticipating to be

650
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,760
at or around 7.9 million uh by the end

651
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
of the fiscal year.

652
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:10,789
Um we are seeing um

653
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,440
uh property tax for about 90% that was

654
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,200
budgeted um and 86%. So as long as we're

655
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240
around 88% at this time we're right on

656
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,960
track with budget.

657
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:36,230
Then on the expense side um

658
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720
Uh again, we're about 88% for the year.

659
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Again, 11 months into the year. Uh so

660
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,320
we're looking to be um we have a deficit

661
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200
budget of 263,000. We're currently

662
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,919
running a deficit at 204. So we're

663
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:52,720
underneath um where we are. So we're

664
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960
tracking according to the budget plan.

665
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Uh and we should be around the deficit

666
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,440
amount by the end of the fiscal year.

667
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:11,110
We're not out of areas or other all categories are tracking within the budget.

668
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,679
So moving on to the 2627. These are the

669
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:15,679
council priorities that have developed

670
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:20,960
uh the 2627 budget. Um and I won't go

671
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,159
over them but um they are well ingrained

672
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:31,909
in our minds as we um develop this bill.

673
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:33,520
So looking at general fund revenues,

674
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
we're projecting about 8.2 year, which

675
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
is a 3.9%

676
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,360
increase as of right now. Um we still

677
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,720
have to do um analysis on the impact of

678
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,039
the user fee study. We still haven't

679
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,440
added or we still haven't approved all

680
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,200
of uh the user fees. So staff still uh

681
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,720
going through planning and building and

682
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,120
engineering and what impact uh the fee

683
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,640
study will have on those revenues. So

684
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,880
the 8.26 26 million number will probably

685
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,720
change, but right now it's 3.9% increase

686
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960
and it's primarily tax revenue. So

687
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200
property taxes we're looking at 5.3%

688
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,159
increase. Uh sales and use tax about

689
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:16,000
7.7%.

690
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Um business license tax um we are

691
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,320
trending very well. business licenses.

692
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,360
We're issuing about 700 business lic

693
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,640
and um and primarily most of that work

694
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,640
is contractor work. Um and but also the

695
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,640
budget for 2526 was based on historical

696
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,039
trends based on numbers that were posted

697
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,240
and as we've been completing the audits

698
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,000
and making the corrections in the

699
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,360
previous fiscal years, we're getting

700
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,679
truer numbers in regards to the activity

701
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:51,520
that's coming in revenue. I'm I'm able

702
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320
to adjust some of our revenue numbers uh

703
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,360
upward. Um and but so but as of right

704
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360
now, we've done an analysis on the tax

705
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,440
revenues. We're still waiting to um

706
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,960
uh see uh determine the impact of uh the

707
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840
user feed uh the new user fees that will

708
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,470
be adopted.

709
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,720
and user fees are basically licenses and

710
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,310
permits and those categories.

711
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,559
Um, looking at a property tax, what is

712
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,200
driving the growth in property tax? You

713
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440
know, it's it's you we're not building

714
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,720
new homes. Um, and we're not and it's

715
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480
partially part due to uh remodels. Uh,

716
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,279
but it is the basically the sale of

717
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,600
property uh from year to year. So this

718
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,360
chart shows uh single family resident

719
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,799
sales from 2021 through 2025.

720
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,080
We're averaging about 51 sales per year.

721
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
U and the median median price has been

722
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
5.2 million. Uh and then for non-s

723
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120
single family resident homes. Um these

724
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,880
include multif family residences,

725
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,919
commercial, industrial, um we we're

726
00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:07,919
averaging about four sales a year with

727
00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:10,640
3.1 million. So when so when there is a

728
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,679
new sale the the the assessed value of

729
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:15,760
the home is then reassessed at the

730
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,399
market value of the house that uh so

731
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:21,919
establishes a new baseline uh for the 2%

732
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:27,669
increase per year.

733
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:30,480
So looking at general fund expenses u

734
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,240
planning about 8.85 85 million, the 7.7%

735
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,399
increase primarily driven by the

736
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:38,480
increase in the sheriff's contract. Uh

737
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,000
to the general fund, it's going to be

738
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
about $488,000.

739
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Um and we're currently projecting a

740
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,279
$584,000 deficit. Um we are still

741
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:50,080
reviewing the consultants um for

742
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,399
planning and building um and just

743
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:54,480
determining what hours are going to be

744
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,000
town work which will be charged to the

745
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,080
general fund and what will be applicant

746
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120
work which will be charged to the u the

747
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440
customer deposit fund. Um and we're

748
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,519
doing that for planning and building and

749
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,440
engineering and uh we'll have those

750
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
numbers updated uh for at the next

751
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,799
council meeting but as of right now

752
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:19,350
we're currently projecting a 584,000

753
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,360
As you can see, the largest increase is

754
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,320
the $498,000 in contract and contract

755
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480
work includes the sheriff's contract,

756
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Woodside Fire and um town attorney. Um

757
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,399
so, but the largest increase is about

758
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:37,600
488,000 of that 498,000

759
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,440
um is the sheriff's contract to general

760
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,110
fund.

761
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120
And as I said, we're still under review.

762
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120
We're looking at our subscriptions, the

763
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360
use of consultants, and what the final

764
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,039
number will be for transfers out.

765
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,080
Um the budget will have funding for 15

766
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,399
full-time equivalent positions. And

767
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:01,919
these are how the the positions will be

768
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:04,399
allocated by division. Administration

769
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:07,840
will have six positions. Um finance will

770
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640
have well it'll be the assistant town

771
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720
manager will be split between

772
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,039
administration and finance uh planning

773
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,480
and building. We'll have the director,

774
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960
the senior planner and then a we are

775
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
currently going to be recruiting for the

776
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,880
senior development review technician

777
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
building inspector. Um and then we'll

778
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,039
also be uh starting recruitment for

779
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,919
finance manager and accountant one um as

780
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:35,029
soon as possible.

781
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,880
Um other cost increases um retirement

782
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,799
although the contribution rate has gone

783
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,679
down for fiscal year 2627 we are

784
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:45,360
starting the year with a higher number

785
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640
of employees uh with fewer vacancies. So

786
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,399
the more employees we paid throughout

787
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:52,080
the year is going to result in increased

788
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
retirement contributions over the

789
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,679
previous year. So we're currently

790
00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:58,240
projecting about 135,000 retirement

791
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,480
contributions for the year. uh which is

792
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:07,830
about a $24,000 increase from 2526.

793
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
The U or the unfunded acred liability,

794
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,639
this is our advertised

795
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,520
uh cost of the pension liability. Um

796
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,679
this year it's going up about another

797
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,679
27,000 from 168 to 195. Um and this

798
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,679
number goes up every year. Uh there are

799
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,919
we can elect one-time savings if we

800
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:32,079
prepay. Uh but the savings are not um

801
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,520
it's less than 1% savings. So I'm not

802
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,679
currently recommending that we prepay

803
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,149
the U at this time.

804
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,240
Medical uh this is a significant

805
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,599
increase uh in our personnel costs uh

806
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,679
medical premiums on average. We have two plans that most of our employees

807
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,760
use. There's the Anthem plans and

808
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
there's Kaiser plans. Anthem rates have

809
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,880
increased approximately 12% per year

810
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,640
since 2122 and uh concurrently Kaiser

811
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,079
rates have increased 8% as well. Um and

812
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,520
um these are medical premiums that the

813
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,240
uh town pays. However, um a portion of

814
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,960
that cost is also um paid for by the

815
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,790
employees.

816
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,880
So, we're looking about 252,000 for

817
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,599
medical premiums uh this year, which is

818
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,470
an increase of about 27,000

819
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,240
and contract services talked about

820
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,320
earlier uh town attorney, sheriff's

821
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800
office with site fire and then we also

822
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,359
have uh consultants with uh planning and

823
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:43,040
building uh good city is our planning

824
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,560
consultants. CSG consultants do building

825
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,760
inspections, plan review, and then Inner

826
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,920
West does town engineering and also CIP

827
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,240
project management. Then we also have a

828
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,720
contract with Shims Kota that helps with

829
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,040
permit processing. And then our

830
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,760
subscriptions uh you know just a list of

831
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,240
some of the subcriptions open gov other

832
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,240
IT infrastructure

833
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,400
starlink ring zoom um the biggest uh

834
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,720
we're no longer using well we won't be

835
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,800
using intergov this will be the last

836
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,400
year of intergov uh we we'll not we will

837
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,680
not have any future payments towards

838
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,200
intergov it's all being switched to open

839
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,960
gov uh but there will be a slight

840
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,800
increase in costs um with the annual

841
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,040
subscriptions but in the long run it'll

842
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,599
result in better better c customer

843
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,040
service for our applicants through

844
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,079
planning and building.

845
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,359
So looking at the sheriff as you can see

846
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:45,920
for 2627 the contract increased $197,000

847
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
which is 8.4%.

848
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,839
However in previous years we've been

849
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:53,200
using ARPA funding uh we also were using

850
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,520
expired credits uh to offset some of

851
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,160
these cost increases. um 2627 those use

852
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160
of additional onetime funds is no longer

853
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400
available. So there's going to be a

854
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,720
$488,000 increase to the general fund

855
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,680
and it's made up of the $197,000

856
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,200
increase uh to the contract plus the

857
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,560
expiration of the $211,000 credit.

858
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640
And then we're not using ARPA funds. So

859
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,480
that's another $100,000 that we do no

860
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520
longer have available. Um, we will use

861
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,720
an additional $20,000 in cops funding uh

862
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,560
to help offset this cost. Now, we do

863
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,599
receive from public safety sales tax and

864
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,680
cops uh about

865
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,400
it's less than 10% of the total contract

866
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,760
cost. Uh so it really is not it's not

867
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,880
really going to make any significant

868
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,400
dent in offsetting the cost of the

869
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,280
general fund. Uh so this $488,000

870
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,920
increase will adjust the baseline per

871
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,520
share for the sheriff's contract in the

872
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,950
general fund moving forward.

873
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,320
Westside Fire um

874
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,359
the costs are about the same uh from

875
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:08,000
previous year. Uh not much increase. Uh

876
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,720
we will be using uh Woodside Fire for 60

877
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,599
days of vegetation management. uh the

878
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,160
chipper costs there was a decrease in

879
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,320
the chipper cost from previous year and

880
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:26,710
then uh education costs of 59,000

881
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,640
and the capital improvement plan um went

882
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,240
uh council reviewed this a couple

883
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,599
meetings ago we're looking at about 1.45

884
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,560
million total for capital improvements.

885
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960
However, post adoption, we probably have

886
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,720
some additional decisions to make on the

887
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,119
Fordfield bathroom, Valley Oak Trail

888
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:46,720
Bridges, and the Shauny Path speed

889
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:51,359
humps. Um, and but you know, we're in

890
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:52,960
development of those projects as we

891
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880
speak or there's other mitigating issues

892
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,680
in regards to u the trail bridges and

893
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,280
then bathroom. We're waiting the results

894
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,760
of the feasibility study,

895
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,440
but we probably will not have those in

896
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,680
time for the adoption of the budget.

897
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,640
So this is the fiscal forecast. Um it

898
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,079
has not been updated u with projected

899
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:17,359
revenues and full expenses for 27 or

900
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:19,040
2627.

901
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,920
Uh so this this chart will be updated um

902
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,440
when we bring the budget back for

903
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,000
adoption. But this is this has been our

904
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,790
story for since November of 2024.

905
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,040
So that concludes my report. Okay, yield

906
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,240
back to council for questions and

907
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,040
direction.

908
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,280
>> Thank you, Tony. So, clarifying

909
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,109
questions on the presentation.

910
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,079
» Yeah, ju just a handful. Um, the graph

911
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,400
you just said that you just showed, you

912
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,880
said it hasn't been updated since 2024

913
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,440
like

914
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,119
>> No, it has been updated. I just haven't

915
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,440
updated it with 2627.

916
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,400
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Do you expect it to have

917
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560
any material difference?

918
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560
>> Yeah. Well, with the user fee study and

919
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,560
you know putting those into the analysis

920
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,800
where revenue ends up, but also we're

921
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,400
all looking at the consultants. So there

922
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,320
there's going to be a change in the

923
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,720
general fund for 2627 based on the

924
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,480
numbers now.

925
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,720
>> But it's still, you know, 6% increase in

926
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,720
expenses, 4% increase in revenue, but

927
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,560
those numbers are going to change

928
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
>> once we complete our analysis.

929
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,880
>> But it doesn't sound like it's night and

930
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,680
day different. like we we can assume

931
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,359
ballpark

932
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:37,520
>> it will still look similar.

933
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,000
>> Yeah.

934
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,839
>> But there might the the gap between

935
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,599
revenues expenses might shrink a little

936
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:42,000
bit.

937
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,480
>> Okay.

938
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
>> But the overall direction of the black

939
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,160
line is not

940
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,359
>> Yeah, that's my question. Um remind me

941
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:52,079
of the speed bumps. Was that I can't

942
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:52,800
recall

943
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,839
>> the the young man from was it CO Madera

944
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:58,000
made the presentations.

945
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,800
>> Oh,

946
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
>> okay. Now I remember. Thank you. you

947
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,640
know, engaging the BPTS committee,

948
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,359
>> okay,

949
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:07,280
>> kind of developing and we do have we do

950
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,440
have funding for that project. Uh we do

951
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,720
receive transportation funding. We got

952
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,400
measure A, measure W. So, this is a

953
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040
project that we could probably do.

954
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,760
>> Um and uh the town attorney

955
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,240
and the legal services, one is for non

956
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,640
uh shoot maholi expenses. Is that

957
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,920
correct? Two lines.

958
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,119
>> Yes. And there were changes in those

959
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,599
costs. Are you projecting needing less?

960
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,800
It was page 74 of the packet. I don't

961
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,040
know if you want to flip to that.

962
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,040
>> Yeah, because well, we've we've had some

963
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,680
activities this year that uh have

964
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,800
increased those costs. We're not

965
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,200
anticipating them for 26 27.

966
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,720
>> You're not anticipate. Okay, that was my

967
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,800
question. Okay. And then the last thing

968
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160
is um the consultants I know we've done

969
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,319
a good job already analyzing Sarah I

970
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:03,040
think heavily involved in analyzing who

971
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,200
are using for what is that work going to

972
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,920
continue and might that have an impact.

973
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,800
>> Yes. This is the first year since I've

974
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,480
been here where we actually have

975
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,920
somebody in planning and building can

976
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,520
actually review

977
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,359
>> uh the consultant's work. Uh this was

978
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:19,920
work that was started by former interim

979
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,440
uh Steve

980
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680
>> um and was something that was sorely

981
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,960
needed and but we go going forward we

982
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,560
will be monitoring okay this is town

983
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,240
work this is applicant work

984
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,240
>> and these are the hours and and really

985
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,160
working with the consultants uh to keep

986
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,119
that in mind

987
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,640
>> we're not done that's still going to

988
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,200
continue

989
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,640
>> still going to continue yeah because I

990
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,960
mean we don't this is augmenting staff

991
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,160
levels that we have

992
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,160
>> yeah okay those are my questions thank

993
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,200
you

994
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,960
>> thank you Mary you have any clarifying

995
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,680
questions.

996
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,280
>> Well, I do uh I I'm just been trying to

997
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,680
sort out uh

998
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,119
how we're doing with our checks and

999
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:59,119
balances. Um are our bank accounts uh

1000
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,520
reconciled monthly and do we have a sec

1001
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,319
a separate person who rec reviews it and

1002
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:06,400
how does that work and have all our

1003
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
findings of the completed audits been

1004
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,200
done and are any have any findings in

1005
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,440
our in our audits that are in process?

1006
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,079
>> Right. So the bank wrecks are an ongoing

1007
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,800
process because we're refining and but

1008
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,400
we are capturing everything that's

1009
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,599
coming through

1010
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,960
>> current. Yeah.

1011
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,599
>> The the reason why we're recruiting for

1012
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,839
a finance manager is to ensure that the

1013
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:30,160
checks and balances remain that there's

1014
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,720
another level of review.

1015
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:33,839
>> Okay.

1016
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:36,480
And because I we just want to make sure

1017
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,400
that not one person doing everything

1018
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,760
that's part of the process of cash

1019
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
handling, depositing and

1020
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,000
>> but right now without that person we are

1021
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,800
doing that.

1022
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,720
>> Right. We are still doing that. Yes,

1023
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,560
>> that's all I want to know. Yeah. Thank

1024
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,800
you.

1025
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,079
>> Thank you, Mary Rebecca.

1026
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:57,599
>> Uh yes. Um uh thank you Tony for your

1027
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,599
hard work and diligence that's gone into

1028
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:05,040
this. I I very much appreciate that. Um,

1029
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,640
under services, I don't think we

1030
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960
mentioned laser fees. It's it's a small

1031
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,160
thing in there, but um,

1032
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,599
uh, it's something to think about, I

1033
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:17,200
guess. Um, it's included as one of our

1034
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
services and it's a it's a chunk of

1035
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,200
change. So, I just wanted to clarify

1036
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,119
that that is

1037
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,920
>> still going to be uh on our budget for

1038
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,599
next year.

1039
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,680
Yes, we do have subscriptions that we

1040
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,839
are reviewing.

1041
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:36,240
>> And could you clarify um in the in the

1042
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,440
records it says capital replacement

1043
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,680
emergency fund a million dollars and

1044
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,640
then there's a fund 401 capital projects

1045
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,839
for something like 692,000.

1046
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:49,680
What are the differences of those two

1047
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,280
items? So the the capital replacement is

1048
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,920
a category within the general fund

1049
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,520
reserve

1050
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,960
and normally would be used to fund any

1051
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,119
transfers into

1052
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,720
uh fund 401 which where we actually pay

1053
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,760
for CIP projects out of that fund. Uh

1054
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,160
but it is that fund 401 is

1055
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,920
supported by transfers from the general

1056
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000
fund which we have not been able to do

1057
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,520
the last two fiscal years.

1058
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,280
Okay, thank you. And um when do our

1059
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,440
franchise services fees get

1060
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,079
renegotiated?

1061
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,280
>> Uh well, three of the four are

1062
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,720
established by state law. Um the energy,

1063
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,640
cable, and water. Uh the only one that's

1064
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,760
negotiable is the wastewater

1065
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,160
is the waste with green waste. Um, and

1066
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640
I'm not sure when that contract is up

1067
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,440
for renewal.

1068
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,800
>> Okay. Um, and then under the town

1069
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,880
manager salaries list, it shows a

1070
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,040
$100,000 reduction. I was just curious

1071
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,119
how that happens now that we've filled

1072
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:09,440
the assistant town manager position.

1073
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,440
>> Well, my salary is still being allocated

1074
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,990
between town manager and

1075
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,560
» Okay. And you're anticipating that for

1076
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,040
what period of time for next year?

1077
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,240
>> I am anticipating that to remain because

1078
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,640
I finance will still report to me.

1079
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,520
>> Oh, okay. And then just a clarification,

1080
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,440
I wasn't clear on what cafeteria plan

1081
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,920
management meant versus sort of the

1082
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,640
health insurance line items.

1083
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,640
>> Yeah. Cafeteria plan, the town

1084
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,040
contributes a portion of um it's to

1085
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,119
offset the cost of the premiums.

1086
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,520
Oh, and and the the line item for the

1087
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,440
health insurance and whatever. That's

1088
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,880
what is that then?

1089
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,760
>> That's that is the medical premium.

1090
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,079
>> That's we pay that.

1091
00:46:58,079 --> 00:46:59,280
>> Yeah.

1092
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,720
>> So, what what are we paying for the

1093
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,240
cafeteria plan management then?

1094
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,560
>> Cafeteria plan goes to the employees.

1095
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,599
>> Goes what?

1096
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:11,190
>> It goes to the employees.

1097
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,440
» I I guess I'm still confused about that.

1098
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,040
So we are paying a portion of their

1099
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,880
health insurance and their vision and

1100
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,920
whatever.

1101
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,480
>> Yeah.

1102
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,800
>> And then we are paying something else

1103
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,319
towards

1104
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,160
>> and then the employees are turning

1105
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:31,270
around and paying the medical premium.

1106
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,839
» So why isn't that all under health as

1107
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:36,160
opposed to being a separate?

1108
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,319
>> Because they're paid to separate

1109
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:40,079
entities.

1110
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,760
>> So we account for we account for it

1111
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,200
separately.

1112
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,480
I see. Okay. Um, do you not expect any

1113
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,160
costs associated with the November

1114
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,920
election given that we're considering a

1115
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,079
ballot measure and it's the midterms? Is

1116
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:53,440
there

1117
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,839
>> Yes, we are still reviewing those. We do

1118
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:57,440
have some consulting costs that will be

1119
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,440
related to the election, but yeah, we

1120
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,599
are still reviewing those. There'll be

1121
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:02,800
attorney time

1122
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,440
>> as well.

1123
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,599
>> Okay. But that would be put into a

1124
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,359
different bucket.

1125
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:08,960
>> Yes, there will be a separate line item.

1126
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,440
We have a we have a project number or a

1127
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,710
project code uh for the election.

1128
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,079
» But you're saying attorney time would

1129
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,520
fall under um the town clerk's budget or

1130
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000
would it be under the attorney's budget?

1131
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,680
>> It would be under the town attorney's

1132
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,280
budget. Um but the there there will be a

1133
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,839
code that says 26 election. Um, and we

1134
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:36,240
also have the same code in the town

1135
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,040
manager budget for the consultants. And

1136
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,400
then we also have um elections cost that

1137
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,160
will be out of the town clerk, but we'll

1138
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,800
be able to run a report by project to

1139
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,160
show um what the costs are.

1140
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,760
>> Okay. Excellent. And but you've already

1141
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,960
put some estimates for those costs into this um study budget or we're still

1142
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,920
you're still working

1143
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,920
>> Well, we we did put some of these

1144
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,319
numbers in at the midyear with the

1145
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:06,880
intent of carrying over those numbers to

1146
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,720
2627.

1147
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,280
Um but that gives us an idea what the

1148
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,000
number is going to be. Um and then we'll

1149
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,119
roll it over into 2627. But we're still paying consultants. We're

1150
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,240
still tracking time. Uh so we'll have

1151
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,640
that number um for the 24th.

1152
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,880
>> Okay. And what exactly is a fuel

1153
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,309
mitigation engineer?

1154
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:35,680
» You want to answer that one?

1155
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:42,150
>> Oh, we know. I know that.

1156
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640
» I actually just sent an email to Tony

1157
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,839
about that. Um, but a fuel mitigation engineer. He is my

1158
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:52,720
manager that manages the fuel mitigation

1159
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:54,480
division at Woodside Fire. And that's

1160
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,240
the crew that does all your rightway

1161
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,040
work and chipping. However, um, I'm just

1162
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,960
looking at that as a separate line item

1163
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,160
because I'm not sure if that was because

1164
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,400
I saw public education mixed with that.

1165
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,000
So, I'm wondering if there was a mixup

1166
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
with titles because it's usually that

1167
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,079
you're funding the emergency

1168
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:11,760
preparedness coordinator and public

1169
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
education officer that runs the epic

1170
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,079
organization that is funded by the town

1171
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,040
and Woodside Fire. So, we'll follow up

1172
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,359
on that, but that's what the FME is.

1173
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:28,000
>> Okay, great. Thanks. Um, and I noticed

1174
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480
that there was quite a few different um

1175
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,200
line items for software.

1176
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Um, so it it's included for the

1177
00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:38,079
community hall and it's included for

1178
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,760
software and licensing for roads,

1179
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,920
repairs, facilities, development

1180
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,440
section.

1181
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,319
Um, I'm just trying to understand what

1182
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:49,680
that what that software is that we're

1183
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,559
using for for those different areas.

1184
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,040
>> Well, so for open gov, we have several

1185
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,280
modules. One's finance. So those costs

1186
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,920
are allocated to finance. Uh we're

1187
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,920
enhancing permit licenses and coding and

1188
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,079
that covers planning and building code

1189
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,559
enforcement, public works. So we're just

1190
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:08,000
allocating those costs across all

1191
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,750
divisions.

1192
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,839
» Okay. So

1193
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:15,680
>> we also have

1194
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,359
>> yeah community hall has um

1195
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:21,760
uh community pass. So there's a software

1196
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,680
that we use for uh recording um the

1197
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,680
transactions for reservations and

1198
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,520
payments. Um so those costs are

1199
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,920
allocated to community hall uh for

1200
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,040
classes. Um we also have um other

1201
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,079
subscriptions that we have for um other

1202
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:42,559
items other than open gov like blue beam

1203
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,880
starlink um and those costs are

1204
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,480
allocated out according to each

1205
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,880
division.

1206
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,559
>> Okay.

1207
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,160
Those are my questions. Thank you

1208
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,839
so much.

1209
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,400
>> Thank you Rebecca.

1210
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,640
Hi.

1211
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,549
Um,

1212
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:09,119
hold on. Let me um staff is currently reviewing all

1213
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,520
consulting contracts for building and

1214
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,520
planning and engineering. When will we

1215
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,240
have know what those contracts what we

1216
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:16,559
have?

1217
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,760
>> By the 24th. We'll have it for budget.

1218
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,880
>> Great. Um,

1219
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,119
can you remind me what the intergovern

1220
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,079
budget. What?

1221
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:26,720
>> I'm sorry.

1222
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,000
>> I I didn't hear the end of your

1223
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,480
sentence.

1224
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
>> We'll have it for the 24th when the

1225
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,119
budget

1226
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:31,680
>> meeting

1227
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,079
>> when the budget it's adopted. Thank you.

1228
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,720
>> Okay. Could you remind me of the 7500 in

1229
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,920
government intergovernmental charge or

1230
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,280
revenue?

1231
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,309
>> I believe that's the motor vehicle fee.

1232
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:51,040
» Motor DM fee or are you saying

1233
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,599
>> DM? That's the motor vehicle fee. It's a

1234
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,720
Santa Sanonteo County measure that was

1235
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:01,200
passed years ago. We get separate um

1236
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,680
it's either that or it's hopped. I can't

1237
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,160
>> Okay.

1238
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,800
>> Yeah.

1239
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,390
>> Okay. Um

1240
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,119
BLF.

1241
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:13,839
>> Yes.

1242
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:15,839
>> You recognize it's not in the governor's

1243
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:18,480
budget or the legislaturator's budget at

1244
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,040
this point.

1245
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,119
>> And I never budget the short ball.

1246
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:22,960
>> Okay. I always budget what the county

1247
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,910
tells me what's available.

1248
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,559
» I think that number is optimistic.

1249
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:31,839
>> No, this is the number. This is what

1250
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:32,160
they have.

1251
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,440
>> That's what they got.

1252
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,359
>> This is what the county has.

1253
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:36,079
>> Oh,

1254
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:38,880
>> yeah. It's the shortfall that they're

1255
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,680
fighting for.

1256
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,040
>> Got it. Okay. Thank you for clarifying.

1257
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,040
Um

1258
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,559
Okay.

1259
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:48,480
Um

1260
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,280
because of our senior new senior

1261
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,640
planner, are we expecting good city

1262
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,440
costs to decrease?

1263
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,640
>> Well, we're currently doing that

1264
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,680
analysis.

1265
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,400
>> Okay.

1266
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,720
>> I can't say yes or no, but I mean

1267
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,319
they're still doing work for us even

1268
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:08,240
with the senior planner in in tow. Um so

1269
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,079
it's still it's still a cost that's

1270
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,839
going to be uh something to acknowledge.

1271
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:15,359
>> Okay.

1272
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:17,760
Thank you. Thanks. Those are my

1273
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,640
questions.

1274
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,400
>> Thank you, Helen.

1275
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,800
>> So, Tony, just two quick questions. Um,

1276
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,480
the master fee schedule, what do we

1277
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,040
think the rough number is going to be?

1278
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,680
>> I I

1279
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,720
>> Do you have a range?

1280
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:32,400
>> I It could be 250, it could be 400,

1281
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,359
somewhere in that range.

1282
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:33,920
>> Okay.

1283
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,359
>> The what number?

1284
00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:37,280
>> The master fee schedule if once we

1285
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,480
implement it.

1286
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,079
>> Yeah. What you what was it? What was

1287
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:41,280
your question?

1288
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,920
>> What that number? how much we would earn

1289
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,760
in addition by implementing the master

1290
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,240
piece.

1291
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:48,079
>> Right. In addition, that's my question.

1292
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:49,280
Okay. Thank you.

1293
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,480
>> So then Tony, last year we had a, you

1294
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,319
know, a 200 some odd Kk deficit

1295
00:54:56,319 --> 00:55:00,400
and this year we have a 584 deficit,

1296
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,440
but the sheriff's contract was like 488

1297
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200
hit to the general fund. It seems like

1298
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,160
it's 688. So seems like there's 100k

1299
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,240
somehow missing there.

1300
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,559
>> Not following you. Um well I was just

1301
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,800
trying to take what was our deficit for

1302
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,480
this year?

1303
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,559
>> 263.

1304
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,559
>> Okay. So 263

1305
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,319
>> and if you took 263 and added 488 to it

1306
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:27,680
which is what I was roughly trying to

1307
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,160
do.

1308
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,200
>> Mhm.

1309
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,760
>> That and that number is going to be you

1310
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,520
know six I'm not doing the exact math

1311
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,920
here but it's you know 700k roughly.

1312
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,720
>> Right.

1313
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,040
>> But yet we're projecting a deficit of

1314
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,440
>> in revenue too. So that takes it that

1315
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,800
>> so that and you so that's the difference

1316
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,880
is we're expecting that increase of

1317
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
roughly 200k in revenue.

1318
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,880
>> Okay, great. Thank you.

1319
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,480
>> I I have one more question.

1320
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:50,799
>> Okay.

1321
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:52,400
>> Sorry buddies.

1322
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,640
>> Um it it uh we want to have a successful

1323
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,880
efficient welcoming organization uh that

1324
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,480
gives satisfaction to residents and

1325
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,440
employees alike. What level of ongoing

1326
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,839
annual revenue would be required to

1327
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:07,839
restore structural balance to the

1328
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,920
general fund while maintaining or

1329
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,839
possibly improving current service

1330
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:14,640
levels and preserving reserves at policy

1331
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,599
targets?

1332
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,440
>> We are still I mean

1333
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,799
>> what number are we using?

1334
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:25,839
are we imagining

1335
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:28,960
>> 1.5 to two million

1336
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,760
that keeps our reserve at 20% helps to

1337
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,280
absorb any cost increases with the

1338
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,400
sheriff's contract. Uh helps us to

1339
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,000
continue funding capital projects. Um we

1340
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,720
have a $350,000

1341
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:44,240
maintenance of effort requirement of the

1342
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:45,920
general fund which we have not met in

1343
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,079
the last two years. So we are at risk of

1344
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,799
losing our SB1 RMR funding which is

1345
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:53,920
reduction in transportation funding. Um,

1346
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,480
and there's other capital projects that

1347
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,359
we need to fund like storm drains for

1348
00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:01,520
one. That could be about half a million

1349
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,480
there just for a master plan and then

1350
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,400
ongoing um costs for maintenance and

1351
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,440
repairs that will be identified in the

1352
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,960
master plan. That's just the tip of the

1353
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,760
iceberg.

1354
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,240
>> Yeah.

1355
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,240
>> But there are other items that need to

1356
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400
be addressed. The the vehicle fleet

1357
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720
needs to be replaced. um that could be

1358
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,440
about hundred to $150,000 right there.

1359
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,359
Uh because trucks are not cheap. So um

1360
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:30,000
you know, we don't have exact numbers,

1361
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,640
but we do have a list of what items need

1362
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,680
to be addressed and estimates, but yeah,

1363
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,200
it's well 1.5 would be the range, but if

1364
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,640
we can get more, then we could also

1365
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
address our pension liability. We could

1366
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,839
pay that down. Um, so there are some

1367
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:48,559
costs that the town has not addressed

1368
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,960
historically. Um, and this is an

1369
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,400
opportunity for us to do that.

1370
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:52,960
>> Yeah.

1371
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
>> And Tony, when you said 1.5, it's 1.5 to

1372
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,319
two is probably

1373
00:57:56,319 --> 00:57:58,400
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just

1374
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,680
>> this is something that we're going to

1375
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,200
discuss in July.

1376
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,359
>> Yes. Well, what I'm what I'm hoping for

1377
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:07,200
is to ask that we have that a slide that

1378
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,440
clearly shows exactly what you just

1379
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,000
finished saying for the presentation.

1380
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,480
Yeah, that's all I'm asking.

1381
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,309
>> Okay, thank you.

1382
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:20,640
All right, so with that, let me move to

1383
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,960
public comment. So, any hands in the

1384
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,280
room? I see no hands in the room, so

1385
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,510
I'll go online. Rita,

1386
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,000
» hi,

1387
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,119
>> welcome.

1388
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:33,359
>> Thank you for taking my comment. Um, you

1389
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:36,079
know, we just had that meeting about the

1390
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:40,079
uh safety element and um that item that

1391
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:43,280
I mentioned, I guess it was S5 on the

1392
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,119
safety element talked about the storm

1393
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,359
drains and I think we have a mandate or

1394
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:49,280
something about how we're supposed to be

1395
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,319
u checking them. And I saw on the slide,

1396
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:53,839
one of the previous slides, there was

1397
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,520
$20,000

1398
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,240
for in the budget in the proposed budget

1399
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,079
for fixing some storm drains. But um

1400
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,559
because of the safety element, do we

1401
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:09,119
have to now make sure that the money to

1402
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:11,119
do what we have to do for the storm

1403
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,680
drains in the town are part of this

1404
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,520
budget? Thank you.

1405
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,240
>> Thank you, Rita. Are there any other

1406
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,480
public comments?

1407
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,000
>> I can answer that question.

1408
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,880
>> Yeah, let me just let's just capture all

1409
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,799
of them if there's others. Um, okay.

1410
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:32,160
Zoom user, I'm assuming Dana still.

1411
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,680
>> Yes. Uh, just following that comment,

1412
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,799
um, Portullah Valley historically has

1413
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:42,640
never used curbs and things like that so

1414
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,200
that the water spills onto the the soil

1415
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,319
and and filtered itself naturally. So

1416
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:52,160
that's only the only thing I'm offering

1417
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,839
up is that idea is that we tend to be a

1418
00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:59,280
curbless town. Thank you.

1419
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
>> Thank you, Dana.

1420
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,710
Any other public comment?

1421
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,400
All right. I don't see any other public

1422
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,720
comment, so I will bring it back to

1423
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,160
council for discussion. And Tony, is

1424
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,839
there anything specific that you're

1425
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:19,280
looking for from us? uh just you know

1426
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,599
what you've received and it's this is

1427
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,040
the right direction that we're going but

1428
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,920
I wanted to answer um Rita's question

1429
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,000
because the 20,000 yes that's coming out

1430
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,559
of fund 401 but we also have additional

1431
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:32,240
funding coming out of our gas tax fund

1432
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,720
of about 50 to $50,000 for storm drain

1433
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,799
repairs and these are just for minor

1434
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,200
repairs on the storm drain system

1435
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:39,520
>> right

1436
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,480
>> not just 20

1437
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,640
>> right and when we talk about the 1.5 to2

1438
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,079
million that's the place that we would

1439
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,000
actually start raising money to deal

1440
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,040
with our storm water.

1441
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,359
>> Correct.

1442
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:49,920
>> Yeah.

1443
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,839
>> Okay. Who would like to go first? Helen,

1444
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:55,119
how about you?

1445
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:59,670
>> So, do you have any comments?

1446
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,000
Sure. Rebecca, would you like to go?

1447
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,680
You're bright. I mean, it's early for

1448
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,799
you, right?

1449
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,119
>> Um, well, I I again, I'll just reiterate

1450
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:10,640
that I really appreciate the efforts of

1451
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,319
the finance department and Tony in

1452
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:14,400
particular to putting this together. I

1453
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,040
think it's an excellent excellent work,

1454
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,480
very diligent. Um it certainly shows us

1455
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,319
how we are um in a situation with that

1456
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:27,119
black line where in a couple years we

1457
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,280
will have passed below our reserve

1458
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,079
levels and within a year or two beyond

1459
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:35,040
that and possibly sooner we will run out

1460
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,960
of money and need to do something about

1461
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,400
it. So um I feel like this was the best

1462
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,160
that we can do for this coming year.

1463
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,400
We're obviously not a balanced budget.

1464
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,319
We continue to have a hole that's

1465
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:49,520
growing. Um we don't have a lot of

1466
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,240
options in terms of squeezing here and

1467
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,000
there. And I feel like the depart the

1468
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,640
staff have done a pretty good job of

1469
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,520
really looking um everywhere and trying

1470
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,520
to be more efficient and trying to find

1471
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,160
efficiencies wherever we can. So in that

1472
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,880
respect um I appreciate that and um I

1473
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,480
don't know that there's too much more.

1474
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,920
for them and we can look at tiny little

1475
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,119
things, but they're not going to have

1476
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:16,480
huge impacts on the budget. Um, so yeah,

1477
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,799
I mean, I I I think we've I think

1478
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:20,240
everything's really been covered what we

1479
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,480
can do. So, I I I appreciate the work

1480
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,920
and I I look forward to having all the the open items that were mentioned

1481
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,839
completed in terms of all the analyses

1482
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,000
that still need to happen in the next

1483
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,440
two weeks, I guess. Um, hopefully we'll

1484
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,280
have a little bit more clarity on some

1485
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,839
of those going forward. Thank you.

1486
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:44,480
>> Thank you, Rebecca. Mary.

1487
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,799
>> Yeah. I just wanted to follow up on on what I was saying before, which is

1488
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:52,160
that I think as the um people who are

1489
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,000
supposed to be doing the policy, we we

1490
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,920
really need to really clearly have the

1491
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,640
list of what of I mean, we all know what

1492
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,359
the big things are, but with a ticket

1493
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:06,000
with how much it's going to cost and and

1494
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,680
really know what we're going to be up

1495
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,760
against if we uh

1496
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,559
if we keep moving in this direction In

1497
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,160
other words, we can tighten our belts in

1498
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,839
various different little ways, but we're

1499
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:20,799
going to lose some major major uh things

1500
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:24,319
that that characterize our our town and

1501
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:27,440
which we all think are necessary and we

1502
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,240
need to understand what they are and the

1503
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,000
general public does too.

1504
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,599
>> So, I really appreciate your work.

1505
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:35,760
>> Mary, can I ask clarifying? Are you

1506
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,240
suggesting that we add something to the

1507
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,000
proposed budget or you're just saying

1508
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,760
that people need to understand

1509
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,400
>> in the presentation we need to have a a

1510
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,760
pretty clear uh view of what we're not

1511
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,440
going to be able to do?

1512
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,230
>> Okay. Thank you.

1513
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,559
» Sure. I I don't have too much. I do

1514
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,400
appreciate all the work and the

1515
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,119
continued communication. It's a vital

1516
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,079
time for a town to have information

1517
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:07,680
flow. It may be redundant. It might be

1518
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,480
um kind of pretty basic, but I think

1519
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,119
educating the public on our budget and

1520
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:16,400
how we how what elements feed in is

1521
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,400
really important. So, sessions like this

1522
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,640
are very helpful. Um the only clarifying

1523
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:29,359
point um and I forget the timing for the audits and the like. Um there is not

1524
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:31,119
a possibility between now and the next

1525
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:32,640
meeting when we're going to be asked to

1526
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,839
approve the the budget that there's any

1527
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:39,280
feedback that could impact the budget or

1528
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,839
likely to impact the budget from the

1529
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:45,119
auditors or from any controls, anything

1530
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:49,280
like that. So that's to come later

1531
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,440
and we'll see if any adjustments are

1532
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,480
needed later. But just want to confirm,

1533
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,200
we're not expecting or you have you're

1534
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680
not aware of anything.

1535
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,359
Okay. And just to put a fine point on

1536
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:06,160
the um I always refer to it the

1537
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,880
Christian Co report. We're we've made a

1538
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,920
lot of progress. We're still looking at

1539
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,240
that from time to time and ticking off

1540
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,200
further things. Okay. That's all.

1541
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,319
>> We're not done.

1542
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:19,599
>> Yeah. We're not done.

1543
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,880
>> Yeah. Okay. We're in a state of constant

1544
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,240
improvement.

1545
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:24,799
>> Okay.

1546
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:27,119
>> And even if it's a recommendation for

1547
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:28,880
Christian company that they didn't make,

1548
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,960
if we find it, we we'll implement.

1549
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,359
>> Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you very much.

1550
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:35,359
Those I think you've been thorough. I

1551
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,200
have no other comments.

1552
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,319
>> Thank you,

1553
01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:42,640
>> Helen. Thank you. Um yeah, just really

1554
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,880
minor, you know, just a big thank you to

1555
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,280
staff for the belt tightening and you

1556
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,920
know, this um

1557
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,960
you guys have done a lot um with a

1558
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,440
little and so I appreciate that. Um you

1559
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,839
know, tonight the conversation for

1560
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:01,440
instance around the safety element to

1561
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,119
bring that to where it's at is

1562
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,839
impressive. Um it does sound like we

1563
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:07,760
might need there is scope creep there I

1564
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,200
think. So, we're probably going to need

1565
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
to budget a little bit more for that.

1566
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,920
>> Um, but uh

1567
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,000
I think we're I appreciate what you've

1568
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,440
got you've done and I think we're we're

1569
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,599
in as good of condition as we can be

1570
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,799
right now. So, um that's my comments.

1571
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:27,440
Thank you.

1572
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,079
>> Thank you, Helen.

1573
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,400
So, I would second it. Thanks, Tony. Um

1574
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,559
doing a great job. Um I also appreciate

1575
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:36,240
I mean I do think we built up our staff.

1576
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,599
I mean, we're we're starting to fill the

1577
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:38,960
positions, you know, we're not sitting

1578
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,480
there like with half our positions

1579
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
empty, so our budget looks better

1580
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,000
because we're not paying people. Like,

1581
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,839
that's kind of the wrong solution. So, I

1582
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:47,359
really appreciate that we're actually

1583
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:48,400
even though we don't have a lot of

1584
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,240
choices in this budget, I I appreciate

1585
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,079
at least we're starting to come together

1586
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,480
with a full staff um and that this

1587
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,920
budget represents that. So, I think

1588
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,760
that's great. Um and I would second

1589
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,640
Helen's um working with Sarah to figure

1590
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,920
out if we're going to need any

1591
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,599
additional money on the safety element.

1592
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,599
did seem like there's going to be some

1593
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,000
additional work involved. Um, but other

1594
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,920
than that, um, I I think it looks good.

1595
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,640
So, thank you.

1596
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,559
>> Thank you.

1597
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:16,720
>> Okay. So, with that, let me close 7B and

1598
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,240
move on to 7 C. So, Veronica, I think

1599
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:25,510
this is you.

1600
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:41,109
» Yes.

1601
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:42,640
Okay.

1602
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,960
So, uh with the recent signing of SB77,

1603
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,000
there are a couple uh policies we need

1604
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,680
to implement before July 1st.

1605
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,920
So uh the first one is a telephonic or

1606
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,200
internet disruption policy

1607
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:08,630
uh for council meetings.

1608
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,079
So starting July 1st uh council meetings

1609
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:15,839
need to be conducted by a two-way

1610
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:18,159
telephonic or audiovisisual service such

1611
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,719
as Zoom uh which we will continue to

1612
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:23,199
use. And as part of that requirement,

1613
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:26,400
council needs to adopt a policy uh in

1614
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,040
the event of a disruption during the

1615
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,679
meeting. Uh the policy outlines

1616
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:34,480
procedures for recessing and reconvening

1617
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:38,080
meetings and the efforts uh council or

1618
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,400
staff will undertake to restore service.

1619
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,279
Uh so in the event of a technological

1620
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:48,560
disruption or internet outage uh that

1621
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,719
prevents public access to the council

1622
01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:54,000
meeting, council must immediately recess

1623
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,159
the open session and uh make good faith

1624
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,719
efforts to reestablish

1625
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:03,600
uh telephonic or internet service. Uh

1626
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,159
the recess must be at least for one hour

1627
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:08,960
or until service is restored, whichever

1628
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,950
occurs first.

1629
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,359
Uh if service has not been restored

1630
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,159
after an hour, council must reconvene

1631
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:21,520
and either adjoin the meeting or adopt a

1632
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,440
finding by roll call vote that

1633
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,440
reasonable efforts were made to restore

1634
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,839
service and that continuing the meeting

1635
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:30,080
in person outweighs the public interest

1636
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,199
in maintaining remote access. Uh

1637
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,040
however, in the case that there is

1638
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,440
little to no possibility of service

1639
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,080
being restored, such as uh a power

1640
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,960
outage, council may decide to adjourn

1641
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,920
the meeting uh without attempting to

1642
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,390
restore service.

1643
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,759
Uh second policy is uh public posting

1644
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:56,560
board for agendas.

1645
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,000
um council agendas

1646
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,719
uh need to be translated into applicable

1647
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:06,000
languages based on uh census data for

1648
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,360
the town. So even though Portola Valley

1649
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,000
doesn't meet the language threshold to

1650
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,320
provide translated agendas, we still

1651
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,480
need to provide a space for the public

1652
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,040
to post their own translations of

1653
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,080
council agendas. Uh this space has to be

1654
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,440
adjacent to the current uh existing

1655
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,800
posting board for council agendas and it

1656
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,760
must be freely accessible to the public.

1657
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,920
The town is not responsible for the

1658
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,159
content or accuracy of the translations.

1659
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:39,040
We're just providing space.

1660
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,199
Uh so a designated board will be

1661
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,679
installed next to the existing agenda

1662
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:46,320
posting board outside town hall. The

1663
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,560
space is reserved for translated

1664
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,520
versions of council agendas only. Uh

1665
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,159
there will be specific language posted

1666
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:57,199
indicating such use. Um that language

1667
01:10:57,199 --> 01:10:59,440
will also include

1668
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:02,640
uh language that stating that the town

1669
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,199
is not responsible for any of the

1670
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:07,520
materials posted and anything not

1671
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,239
related to council agendas will be

1672
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:13,270
removed.

1673
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,960
Uh, so that's for the first item, the

1674
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,800
two policies in the packet. Um,

1675
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,640
>> so you're going to stop there, right?

1676
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,280
>> Yes. Yeah. Great.

1677
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:23,920
>> For now.

1678
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,159
>> All right. So, any clarifying questions

1679
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:29,120
for Veronica?

1680
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,199
>> Yeah. Um,

1681
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:33,600
the good faith determination of the cost

1682
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,920
benefit. Are there any guidelines or

1683
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,199
examples given for or is it really in

1684
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,199
our judgment?

1685
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:45,360
Yeah, the code mostly or only states

1686
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,600
good faith efforts. Does not define what

1687
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,640
those efforts are. Um I think

1688
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,239
>> No, it's the I don't mind that. It's the

1689
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,679
we have to either terminate the meeting

1690
01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:00,800
or decide to keep going, but that

1691
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,880
requires a finding.

1692
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,960
>> Uh yes. So when the disruption occurs,

1693
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,400
we will uh recess the meeting while

1694
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,159
staff uh attempts to fix the outage.

1695
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:16,880
Like if it's a bad connection in the

1696
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,679
schoolhouse, we try to restore that. Um

1697
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:21,280
but

1698
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,159
uh if service is not restored after an

1699
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:28,000
hour then council needs to reconvene

1700
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,199
and then make a actual determination to

1701
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:34,480
either continue the meeting or adjourn.

1702
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:37,120
Um and if you decide to continue you

1703
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,400
need to make a finding that continuing

1704
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,159
the meeting outweighs public interest.

1705
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:43,679
And and I'm asking about the legal

1706
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:45,760
standard for that very last point and

1707
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,320
only that point which is

1708
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,840
>> public interest in continuing the

1709
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,000
meeting outweighs the public interest in

1710
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,360
remote access. We can continue. Are

1711
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,560
there any guidelines?

1712
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,199
>> Okay. I was going to add add just that

1713
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:01,199
this is obviously a new statute so there

1714
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:03,679
isn't any precedent. Um but I think that

1715
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:05,040
the council could in it reasonable

1716
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,000
determination determine if it's there's

1717
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,679
an item where there's a statutory

1718
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:11,920
deadline to complete that item. say an

1719
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,199
election resolution, you've got to get

1720
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:14,800
the election

1721
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,280
by a certain date. Um that would argue

1722
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,120
for the public interest um uh you know

1723
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,120
uh weighing in favor of continuing

1724
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,440
despite the inability of the public to

1725
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,520
zoom in for the meeting. Okay, got it.

1726
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,040
Thanks.

1727
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,880
>> Could I just add a question? So

1728
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,679
what if there's, you know, the next four

1729
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:38,400
agendas have no room on them for

1730
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,840
continuing? Is that a reasonable

1731
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,520
or is it not a statutory deadline? But

1732
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,520
it's just like there's not going to be a

1733
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,760
place to fit it in unless it's sort of

1734
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,280
continued and get sort of getting

1735
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,920
finished. So I mean I'm just trying to I

1736
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,360
mean to J's point it's just kind of this

1737
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,960
judgment call. Um do are we going to

1738
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,719
come up with some kind of policy on

1739
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:01,280
roughly what we think are going to be

1740
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,960
our approaches or we're just going to

1741
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,199
wing it after an hour and try to figure

1742
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,520
it out on the fly?

1743
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,960
>> I'll I'll take a stab at that. feel feel

1744
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,920
free to um to jump in. I mean, I guess I

1745
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,440
would say the council actually has

1746
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:14,640
unfortunately had the opportunity to

1747
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,159
make some of these judgment calls in the

1748
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:18,080
past because we we've experienced these

1749
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,800
outages um here at town hall and I think

1750
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,320
that you know the council has um done a

1751
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,400
good job of figuring out well this item

1752
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,520
you know there's a lot of public

1753
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,120
interest in it. No one's physically

1754
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,040
here. We don't have any ability to

1755
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,280
communicate to them to tell them to come

1756
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,560
here you know to get here to the

1757
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,760
schoolhouse. Uh, and so while there's no

1758
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,880
legal precedent here, um, I would say,

1759
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,440
you know, the council has some

1760
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,440
discretion to make that judgment call

1761
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:47,520
based on the facts and circumstances for

1762
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,520
that particular meeting and that those

1763
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:50,159
items.

1764
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,159
>> Okay. Thank you, Mary. Clarifying

1765
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:52,719
questions.

1766
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:55,679
>> Yeah, clarifying question is um going

1767
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:59,199
back to the uh safety element and the um

1768
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,520
the possibility of not having any

1769
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,760
electricity for months that can follow

1770
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,679
an earthquake. Um is there a way that we

1771
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:11,840
could have a not notify what we have

1772
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,080
done in the past is notify people

1773
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,080
upfront that if they are really want to

1774
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,239
hear what's going to happen they uh and

1775
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:23,040
the and it gets disconnected they can

1776
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,600
they need to come to the town hall so

1777
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,280
that we can actually move ahead in an

1778
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,880
emergency situation because uh the

1779
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,960
function of the town has to go on. Um,

1780
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,679
and I I'm probably going to be the one

1781
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:40,719
who pushes for the town being a viable

1782
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:43,840
entity of its own without electricity if

1783
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,360
it if if necessary. Uh, and I' I'd like

1784
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,040
to be able to see a way forward for us.

1785
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,440
That doesn't always depend on having the

1786
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:57,199
electronic system up and going.

1787
01:15:57,199 --> 01:15:58,880
In other words, and and that could be

1788
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,800
just as simple as a statement at the

1789
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,159
beginning of the agendas. uh we had and

1790
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:05,760
we do have that right now. Um we're

1791
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,480
going to have to under SP77 actually

1792
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:09,920
remove that statement because the

1793
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,239
legislature has determined that uh the

1794
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:13,600
public has the right to attend those

1795
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,600
meetings by Zoom and that this is the

1796
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,440
established procedure that we use in the

1797
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,199
event that Zoom is not working. I mean

1798
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,199
you raise a situation that I don't think

1799
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:23,520
the statute contemplates and maybe the

1800
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080
legislature would have to address in the

1801
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,000
event of a you know I mean it's not

1802
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,920
outside the realm of reality. there's a

1803
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,440
major earthquake and then we don't have

1804
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,719
power for for weeks and the um council

1805
01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:37,199
needs to meet because there's priority

1806
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:39,840
items. Um I I don't have the answer. I

1807
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,840
know with with COVID the legislature did

1808
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,360
that quickly to amend the Brown Act to

1809
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,159
allow for fully remote Zoom meetings. Um

1810
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:47,840
so I would expect something like I would

1811
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,960
hope something like that would happen

1812
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,280
and we talked to our local legislature

1813
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,440
um legislator members to make sure it

1814
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,159
does. Um but yes that we will not be

1815
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:59,120
able to continue to use that language.

1816
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,159
uh on our agendas to uh provide for the

1817
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:04,560
inperson I'm sorry to to provide for the

1818
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,280
um

1819
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,760
>> even though there is an out there you

1820
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,040
can uh determine that it's important to

1821
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,440
meet

1822
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:15,679
>> the the the out is essentially the the

1823
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:18,400
um procedure that's that Veronica

1824
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,600
outlined

1825
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,520
>> uh that if there's the disruption we've

1826
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,400
got to actually try really hard for an

1827
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,520
hour to restore it and um and only then

1828
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,560
could we continue the meeting uh where

1829
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,120
the public interest balancing test

1830
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,199
basically would allow us allow the

1831
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,520
council to make those findings.

1832
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,280
>> Thank you,

1833
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,000
Rebecca.

1834
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,880
>> Uh yes. Um it's just a small practical

1835
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,640
question. When when we're required to

1836
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,480
put a new space for a bulletin board, um

1837
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,640
is there a physical board going to be

1838
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,880
new physical board installed or are we

1839
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,280
making room on our existing board? I was

1840
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,159
a little unclear on that.

1841
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:04,000
>> Uh yeah, a new board that is not locked

1842
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,679
will have to be installed.

1843
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:10,719
>> Okay. And um is that an expensive

1844
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:14,070
proposition?

1845
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,080
» Um no,

1846
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,280
it's just a regular bulletin board.

1847
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,320
>> I'm just wondering a little bit about

1848
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,960
the aesthetics.

1849
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,760
>> Well, it it is very interesting. We used

1850
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,600
to have post them in a lot of different

1851
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,679
places and now we're not posting them.

1852
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:32,080
So, we must have a whole bunch of those

1853
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,480
hanging around

1854
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:35,600
>> or maybe they've been

1855
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,199
>> they're still there and we do use them

1856
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:38,960
occasionally when we're required to use

1857
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:44,070
three different postings.

1858
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,000
» Yeah, that's it for me. Thank you.

1859
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,800
>> Thank you, Ellen. Um, just to be clear,

1860
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,080
obviously we've been talking about

1861
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,800
outages, but I'm assuming this also

1862
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,480
applies to Zoom bombing

1863
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,440
>> to what? Zoom bombing like you know to

1864
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:02,800
stop the Is that disruptive? No.

1865
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,560
>> No. But Zoom bombing I think is a little

1866
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,880
different. If Zoom like let's say Zoom

1867
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,760
had a catastrophic cyber attack or a

1868
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,320
failure and Zoom stopped working, I

1869
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,040
think

1870
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,800
>> that's a different issue. But like Zoom

1871
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,280
bombing, the act of like

1872
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,520
getting a lot of public commenters that

1873
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,840
may I mean to be honest that still is

1874
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,840
happening and as long as

1875
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
>> they're following the threeminut rule

1876
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:27,600
they're generally allowed to talk and

1877
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,320
say what they want.

1878
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,800
>> Okay. So that this does not deal with

1879
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,390
that. Okay.

1880
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:36,960
» Thank you.

1881
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,880
>> Okay.

1882
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,640
Thank you. I I don't have any

1883
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,719
comments. Um so I'll open up for public

1884
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:44,800
comment. Any public comment on this

1885
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:53,189
item?

1886
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:54,560
All right. I don't see any public

1887
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,830
comment online, so I'm going to move on.

1888
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,719
» So, we I think once I close public

1889
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:05,679
comment, I this sort of coming in late

1890
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:07,679
after I've waited a significant amount

1891
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:09,600
of time. So, um, I will open it up

1892
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,520
again, but generally once I move off

1893
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,520
this screen, it's sort of back and forth

1894
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,679
doesn't work. So, this this will be my

1895
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:18,080
last time doing this. Once I've closed

1896
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,159
it and moved off, then we're we're done

1897
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:21,760
with public comment. So, go ahead,

1898
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,679
Christie.

1899
01:20:23,679 --> 01:20:25,840
>> Thanks. I'm on my phone and it takes me

1900
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,159
a minute to get

1901
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:32,159
moving on it. Um, I'm wondering a lot of

1902
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:34,640
times on the Almanac or the PaloAlto

1903
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,840
weekly or the daily, I see the agendas

1904
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,520
posted for other council meetings. I

1905
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,080
find it interesting to read them just to

1906
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,679
compare. Oh, this time of year they're

1907
01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:48,640
working on that. What is our town doing

1908
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,280
in comparison? So I think it is

1909
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,400
important to at some point when our

1910
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,440
budget gets to the point we can post

1911
01:20:57,440 --> 01:20:59,520
which the daily you can post free I

1912
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,880
think but the almanac might charge

1913
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,560
um to get more people reading our

1914
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,280
information attending the meetings. We

1915
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,679
only have one place you're posting now

1916
01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:15,520
which is right by town center. So I

1917
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,320
think we should let everyone know and so

1918
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,640
we get more than 10 people at meetings.

1919
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,560
Thank you.

1920
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,199
>> Thank you Christie.

1921
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:26,640
>> All right. So I'm going to bring it back

1922
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,840
to the council. Is there any discussion?

1923
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,480
The only comment I would have is this

1924
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,440
highlights the importance to me of

1925
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:37,040
resurrecting

1926
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,480
not immediately the PV fund attempt to

1927
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:44,320
improve our tele communications

1928
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,480
capabilities particularly in the

1929
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:49,600
schoolhouse. Um, I know that's it's

1930
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,040
related because I think this policy

1931
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,040
which we have to adopt is,

1932
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,040
you know, problematic because we've got

1933
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,600
to hang out for an hour,

1934
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,800
etc., etc. So, the right way to fix this

1935
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,960
is to have a little bit of of a better

1936
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,920
system, but that's it. I don't see any

1937
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,360
room to do anything but adopt the Right.

1938
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,679
>> Thank you, Mary. No,

1939
01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:17,360
>> Rebecca.

1940
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,520
Yeah, I wanted to follow on on the whole

1941
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,880
idea of resilience for the town. Um, and

1942
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,400
I forgot to mention this during the

1943
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:25,600
discussion for the budget.

1944
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,239
Unfortunately, um, the PCE grant, um,

1945
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,719
it's it's been listed as being for

1946
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:34,320
improving energy efficiency, and I think

1947
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,400
it absolutely needs to be switched over

1948
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,560
to to installing battery backups.

1949
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,560
uh storage for the town center.

1950
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,199
Obviously, we won't be able to afford to

1951
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,520
have enough batteries to allow us to

1952
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,000
operate for even 72 hours, but if it can

1953
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,080
allow us to stay in operation for the

1954
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,000
time of a town council meeting, that

1955
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,080
would be pretty critical. So, in the

1956
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,000
event of an outage. So, I think we

1957
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,639
really need to make sure that any money

1958
01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:04,719
we have available from like the PCE

1959
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:07,040
grant that it goes towards battery

1960
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,840
storage.

1961
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,830
>> Thank you, Helen.

1962
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,159
» Thank you for reminding

1963
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,960
us of that. Obvious uh obviously that's

1964
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,000
not the agenda item, but I would second

1965
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,880
the battery backup. Um but in terms of

1966
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:32,239
the um telephonic uh I'm you know I

1967
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:34,400
think I'm fine with that. Thank you.

1968
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,480
>> Thank you. All right. So I don't have

1969
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:38,159
any comments either. I would entertain a

1970
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:40,400
motion to approve this item.

1971
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,840
>> Motion to approve.

1972
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,280
>> Second.

1973
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,239
>> Okay. Veronica. Can I roll call?

1974
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:48,400
>> Council member Walter.

1975
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,560
>> I. Council member Husco. Hi.

1976
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,080
>> Council member Flynn. I. Vice Mayor

1977
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,520
Hufty. I

1978
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,880
>> Mayor Taylor. Hi.

1979
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,800
>> Motion carries.

1980
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,560
>> So, Veronica, on this next one, could I

1981
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,880
ask maybe you just summarize the slide?

1982
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,400
You know, we we got them in the packet

1983
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,239
and I can read the slides. So, maybe

1984
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:07,600
just summarize them rather than read

1985
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:08,639
them all the way through.

1986
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:13,120
>> Uh yes. So basically, uh, town council

1987
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,560
has authority to, uh,

1988
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:17,600
>> you should put, you should put them up

1989
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,840
so everybody can see them, but just then

1990
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,679
just summarize the slide

1991
01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:24,880
>> to, uh, extend

1992
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,400
teleconference

1993
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,080
uh, capabilities for subsidiary bodies,

1994
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,400
which would be for the town uh, town

1995
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,870
council Brown Act committees.

1996
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,159
Uh so

1997
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:44,960
eligible subsidiary or advisory bodies

1998
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,920
are ones that are purely advisory. Uh

1999
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,120
they don't have any final

2000
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,159
decision-making authority or primary

2001
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,159
subject matter over things such as

2002
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,719
budget and taxes.

2003
01:24:56,719 --> 01:25:01,110
Uh

2004
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,760
so these advisory bodies would be

2005
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,480
excluded from using this

2006
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,480
teleconferencing.

2007
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:10,159
uh

2008
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:11,840
capability

2009
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,280
and the remaining committees here are

2010
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,920
the ones that would be eligible.

2011
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,440
Um

2012
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:23,120
so if council authorizes them to meet

2013
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,840
fully remotely uh they need to make

2014
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,400
specific findings that remote

2015
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,080
participation

2016
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,239
uh would enhance public access and

2017
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:35,360
participation in those meetings and also

2018
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,800
consider the impacts on member diversity

2019
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,360
and retention of these uh bodies.

2020
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,639
Uh these findings are required for both

2021
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:49,120
the initial approval and council needs

2022
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,120
to reauthorize

2023
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,000
uh every six months.

2024
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,800
Uh if approved, the bodies conducting

2025
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,760
the remote meetings need to comply with

2026
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,760
certain requirements

2027
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,199
uh such as uh the body themselves need

2028
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:10,000
to vote uh on meeting fully remote. Uh

2029
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,120
physical meeting location needs to be uh

2030
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,000
available for public attendance. uh at

2031
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,080
least one staff member should needs to

2032
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,280
be physically present at that location

2033
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,719
and remote members have to appear on

2034
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:28,800
camera during the meeting.

2035
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,920
Uh another stipulation of

2036
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,199
uh this authorization is it allows

2037
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:37,679
subsidiary bodies to make formal

2038
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:41,280
recommendations to council uh using the

2039
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,280
following process. If they such as uh if

2040
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,360
they formally request to present their

2041
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,840
recommendations to council, council has

2042
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,480
to schedule a discussion within 60 days

2043
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:55,199
of getting that request at a regular

2044
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:57,679
meeting. It cannot be a special meeting.

2045
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:01,520
The item cannot be placed on consent and

2046
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,080
final action on the recommendations

2047
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,600
cannot occur until a subsequent meeting.

2048
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,639
So you can't meet and discuss the

2049
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:12,719
recommendation and vote on it. It has to

2050
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:17,590
be done at a following meeting

2051
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,400
and that is it for this one.

2052
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,639
>> Thank you. Thank you for the summary.

2053
01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:24,320
All right. Any clarifying questions for

2054
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,400
Ron?

2055
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,920
>> Yeah, I have one.

2056
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:28,880
>> Yeah, and I have one too.

2057
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,840
>> Well, I have a couple. Um, so the

2058
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,120
conservate, so the test for whether you

2059
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,280
can do this and who's excluded

2060
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,840
if I'm only looking at your report. It

2061
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,679
says serves in an advisory capacity only

2062
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:47,679
and does not have final decision making

2063
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:51,120
authority over various things. But then

2064
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,480
there's a second prong which is and does

2065
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:56,080
not have primary subject matter

2066
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,080
jurisdiction over budgets, elections,

2067
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,719
police oversight, privacy, public

2068
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:02,880
library access, taxes or related

2069
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,360
spending proposals. So I am questioning

2070
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,960
um the conservation committee fitting

2071
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:13,760
into that because it's not only what

2072
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,719
>> they don't qualify. Yes, I'm questioning

2073
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:20,560
why because it's a two-prong test and

2074
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,400
they definitely have final decision

2075
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,040
making over tree permits, but that isn't

2076
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,560
a budget item or, you know, police

2077
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,159
oversight, privacy, etc. So, are we sure

2078
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:36,239
about that is the question.

2079
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:39,120
>> I I can maybe take a stab at this. So,

2080
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,120
um this only applies to advisory bodies.

2081
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,199
So we we as a preliminary matter

2082
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:47,520
excluded all decision-making bodies and

2083
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,080
then of those advisory bodies there are

2084
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,520
more there are certain bodies that are

2085
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,480
excluded. So the finance committee is

2086
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:56,320
only advisory but they're excluded

2087
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,840
because they have primary jurisdiction

2088
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,159
over the budgets and related spending

2089
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:03,440
appro approvals. Um

2090
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:06,320
so anyway that's that's the the reason

2091
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,840
for

2092
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,480
including uh sorry ex excluding

2093
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,320
conservation committee they are

2094
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,440
decision- making like um the planning

2095
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:20,400
commission and ASC while they really we

2096
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,840
were only able to identify one topic

2097
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,000
where they had decision-m authority uh

2098
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,000
we as staff felt like that was

2099
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,760
sufficient to take them out of the

2100
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,400
category of eligible subsidiary bodies.

2101
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,600
And so maybe I I'll just take this

2102
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,679
offline and go look at the legislation,

2103
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:40,960
but it does say it's not just a one

2104
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,960
trick, one trigger. It's a couple

2105
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,880
different prongs

2106
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,480
and like you get they are um not an

2107
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:53,520
advisory capacity only. I guess you're

2108
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,080
just stopping there and saying that

2109
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,800
takes them out. Okay, I'll I'll go off

2110
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,440
and read it. It just was interesting in

2111
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:02,320
the way it was phrased

2112
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,480
>> and we could bring this back if if you

2113
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,320
find that you think that it's really you

2114
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,320
have to have both to be yeah

2115
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,000
>> excluded then we'll bring it back and we

2116
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,000
can add them to the other list.

2117
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,800
>> Yeah, I I'm not feeling strongly right

2118
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,480
now. We could always do that separately

2119
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:18,000
because we've got to adopt something

2120
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,360
along these lines. It sounds um I am a

2121
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:22,800
little concerned about the one staff

2122
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,080
member must be physically

2123
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,040
present for public attendance. So, is

2124
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,120
that going to change how staffing

2125
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,440
currently works for these bodies?

2126
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:38,480
>> Yes, it could change it.

2127
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:39,840
But I think when we discussed in the

2128
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,760
past, we said the volunteer could staff

2129
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,400
that. So, for example, we had one

2130
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,320
committee member attending, they say,

2131
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,199
"Hey, I want to attend

2132
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,840
in the Buckeye room and have the AV

2133
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,960
running there." Then they would open the

2134
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,120
door and the public could come in and

2135
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,960
use the AV system there. We could use

2136
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,600
the town hall conference room if nobody

2137
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,760
wanted to come. We have staff in town

2138
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,120
hall,

2139
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,360
>> but it has to be a town staff member. It

2140
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,520
can't be a member of the committee

2141
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:10,960
>> because that the way it's written, it

2142
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,360
sounds like a town staff member.

2143
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,199
>> And that was my concern as well.

2144
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:15,600
>> Yeah.

2145
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,639
>> Versus I I I'm fine with a member of the

2146
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:20,880
committee having to come open it up and

2147
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,639
let the public in. That's makes total

2148
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:24,320
sense.

2149
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,280
So

2150
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,960
>> we can double check that, but I assure

2151
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,000
you that won't be a a barrier. And I

2152
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,080
should add that I talked to all the

2153
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,080
committee chairs about this to solicit

2154
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,800
just feedback. And the only one that was

2155
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,840
really interested was bicycle.

2156
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:40,480
>> Mhm.

2157
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,080
>> Because they have a chair who travels a

2158
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,000
lot and they've had a hard time getting

2159
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,719
it members and but then they were deemed

2160
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:48,480
ineligible. But actually I got to be

2161
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,480
honest no feedback from anyone. They

2162
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:52,960
seem to think it didn't seem that

2163
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,040
interesting to them. But anyways, back

2164
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,239
to this. It's not going to be a barrier.

2165
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:58,880
I mean, usually if staff needs to be

2166
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,520
there, we'll come and work if we abs,

2167
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,320
you know, if we have to.

2168
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:03,760
>> You don't think it's a huge burden? No.

2169
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:04,960
In other words, okay, that's

2170
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,400
>> and there was also a conversation I had

2171
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,840
about could we just use the town hall

2172
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,600
conference room? Fine. Yeah.

2173
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:09,920
>> Okay.

2174
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,280
>> Because we would just really want

2175
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,480
reliable AV system.

2176
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:17,280
>> Okay. Two quick questions. Oh, sorry.

2177
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,320
Did you have

2178
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,320
>> No, it's just a great point.

2179
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,880
>> Um, so open space, I thought they did

2180
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,080
have jurisdiction over recommending on

2181
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,239
the budget, but so you pressure tested

2182
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,320
that. They they don't

2183
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,920
>> just

2184
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:37,360
>> on their funds. Okay. All right. Um, and

2185
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,520
the last is if you have a committee of

2186
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,600
committees

2187
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,120
that's also a subsidiary body

2188
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,280
and could take advantage of this because

2189
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,360
we do have these other bodies we form

2190
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:55,030
from time to time.

2191
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,159
I think if they if the body was made up

2192
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:01,199
of members of other eligible subsidiary

2193
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:04,080
bodies, I think that would uh that would

2194
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,360
qualify. But if you have a a body that

2195
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,120
has a a planning commissioner or an ASC

2196
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,239
member, for example, that would take it

2197
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:13,199
out of uh consideration. I wanted to add

2198
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:15,040
one other note just to make it really

2199
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,520
clear. Um there is no deadline for

2200
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,120
adopting this resolution for the

2201
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,000
subsidiary bodies. Um unlike the the one

2202
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,000
the resolutions that you just adopted,

2203
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,320
there was a July 1 deadline. This one is

2204
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,080
actually entirely optional. So council

2205
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,159
could decide tonight to move forward. It

2206
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:31,520
could decide to continue it or it could

2207
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,080
decide not to move forward at this time.

2208
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,920
Okay, thank you.

2209
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,520
>> I just wanted to say that geologic

2210
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,520
safety is very excited about this and

2211
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,239
wants to us to move ahead

2212
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:44,639
if that makes any difference.

2213
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:47,199
>> Thank you, Rebecca.

2214
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:50,000
>> Yeah, a couple questions. Um, I have a

2215
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,000
little bit of a concern about the uh

2216
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:53,840
requirement to that town council must

2217
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,280
schedule a discussion on any

2218
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,520
recommendations within 60 days and then

2219
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,320
it requires actually two meetings given

2220
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,880
how packed our schedules are. Um, is

2221
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:07,199
there any kind of um level where a

2222
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:10,390
recommendation

2223
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,840
I'm trying to figure out how to say

2224
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,840
this. I mean, our committees make

2225
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,440
recommendations every day of the week.

2226
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:16,960
Um,

2227
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,360
you know, is there any kind of limit

2228
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,880
that we could put that it has to be

2229
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,360
based on a goal, a specified goal that's

2230
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,280
in their charter or that's that's been

2231
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,600
determined for that fiscal year that

2232
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,120
then they've studied it and then they

2233
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,800
make the recommendation to town council

2234
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,760
as opposed to, you know, sort of, you

2235
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,679
know, a random a more random um

2236
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:40,320
recommendation to the town. um that's

2237
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,080
not in their budget, that's not in our

2238
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,880
budget, that's not in their goals for

2239
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,639
the year, that you know just comes up

2240
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:48,560
sort of randomly. Is there any kind of

2241
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,440
limit that can be placed or should be

2242
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:52,960
placed

2243
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,239
um on that requirement?

2244
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:58,080
>> U Veronica, I'm happy to take a stab at

2245
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:04,400
that. Feel free to um add to it. So the state statute SB77

2246
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,760
refers to any recommendations

2247
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,920
um of these eligible subsidiary bodies

2248
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,320
have to go through this um kind of

2249
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,960
prescriptive process for taking the

2250
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,760
recommendations to council. Uh Veronica

2251
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:18,800
actually went back and forth on this

2252
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,159
because I I will say the first time I

2253
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:21,760
read this I I didn't really believe what

2254
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,199
it said. I thought could it really does

2255
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:24,960
this really mean any recommendations?

2256
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,040
But um after talking to some colleagues

2257
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,320
about it, we just believe this is sort

2258
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,159
of the quid proquo that the legislature

2259
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:34,639
determined for allowing um committees to

2260
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:36,960
you know meet uh entirely remotely.

2261
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,360
They're just adding more procedures uh

2262
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,920
to the process for you know in exchange

2263
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,199
for their ability to do that.

2264
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:47,840
>> Okay. And then in the um paperwork in

2265
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,679
the report it it mentioned something

2266
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:51,760
about any elected officials serving on

2267
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,920
the body must comply with you know the

2268
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,040
remote code uh including publicly

2269
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,040
noticing their remote location making

2270
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,600
accessible to the public. Is it correct

2271
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,520
in my assumption that a town council

2272
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,040
liaison who has no voting ability is not

2273
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,000
actually officially serving on the body?

2274
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,920
They're just serving as they're just

2275
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,840
there to report back on on what the

2276
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,920
discussion was, but they they serve no

2277
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,800
official capacity on that um committee

2278
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,440
and therefore don't have to comply with

2279
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:28,400
any of these um remote uh messaging

2280
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,639
rules rules.

2281
01:36:30,639 --> 01:36:33,600
>> Correct. Correct. And is there a way to

2282
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,560
include that clarification within

2283
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,080
whatever ordinance we end up um

2284
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,480
approving or or deciding to approve that

2285
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:44,719
town council leaison are not not

2286
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:55,430
included just for clarification.

2287
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:56,719
I'm just looking at the language. I

2288
01:36:56,719 --> 01:36:58,480
mean, certainly the the council we we

2289
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:01,360
included a draft um policy here for

2290
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,639
consideration and uh the council would

2291
01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:06,239
have discretion to amend that to make

2292
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:08,000
any clarifications before adopting the

2293
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,920
resolution and adopting the policy.

2294
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,920
>> Okay. Thanks.

2295
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,760
>> Thank you, Rebecca. Ellen.

2296
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,119
>> Um, so this is a weird one, but I had a

2297
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:22,320
I know someone who

2298
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,280
moved away during CO and didn't tell

2299
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,760
anyone and stayed on a commission

2300
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:33,679
committee body um, multiple. And so, so

2301
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:38,080
what I'm curious about um

2302
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,239
is if we then have committee or

2303
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:43,119
commission members who just always

2304
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:45,679
remote in like I think we would lose

2305
01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:50,239
something. Um, so I'm kind of wondering

2306
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:52,719
I I'm somewhat interested in potentially

2307
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:55,280
limiting to four times a year or

2308
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:59,520
something um because of that situation,

2309
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,679
but

2310
01:38:01,679 --> 01:38:03,920
that would be my s my comment and

2311
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,109
suggestion.

2312
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:10,000
Okay, thank you.

2313
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,679
>> All right, let me check and see if there

2314
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:13,920
are any comments from the public. Rita

2315
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,280
Combmes has her hand up. Rita, go ahead.

2316
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,480
Hi, thank you for taking my comment. Um,

2317
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:23,840
this policy may help us with some um,

2318
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,199
retention of people and I am aware of

2319
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:29,600
some people um, that have been on

2320
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,840
committees and whatnot in the past that

2321
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,719
did move away. Maybe they had something

2322
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:37,840
going on in that address um, in town,

2323
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,600
but uh, that I think it's not for us as

2324
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,560
residents to police that, you know. Uh I

2325
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,280
think everyone that's on these different

2326
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,560
committees and whatnot, they're

2327
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,280
appointed by the council. So uh maybe

2328
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,119
there's a liazison with the council that

2329
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:55,360
can follow up on uh where people

2330
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,639
actually reside, but people do travel.

2331
01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:01,040
And so it' be nice if um if some of them

2332
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:05,840
can be on um remote and uh you know many

2333
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,400
times the uh the geo safety meeting

2334
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,080
which I'm really glad that we've been

2335
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,679
doing for a while. It's an important

2336
01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:13,600
group. you know, their meetings are on

2337
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,080
Monday mornings and if there was a

2338
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,360
outage that weekend, they do not have

2339
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,880
power to run their meetings and there's

2340
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,320
nobody around to to help them. So

2341
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,639
perhaps um you know for meetings that

2342
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:31,840
are are happening at odd times, you

2343
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,320
know, there will be uh staff and maybe

2344
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,199
uh the internet will be more secure for

2345
01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:40,080
those for those different um meetings.

2346
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,800
And this idea of if a uh committee or

2347
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,679
commission proposes something and wants

2348
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:50,719
to meet with the council, you know, uh

2349
01:39:50,719 --> 01:39:53,760
there are times planning commission

2350
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,840
hadn't met for months. You know, it was

2351
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,480
nice to see them today, but uh the

2352
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:00,560
residents don't have a chance to ask

2353
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,480
questions if they're not meeting and we

2354
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:06,080
can't send all of them a question. And

2355
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,639
so this might be a way to uh to fix that

2356
01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:12,239
loophole. Uh I'm and I really appreciate

2357
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:15,520
uh you know the five of you that have uh

2358
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,360
stepped up to be elected into this

2359
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,040
position uh to keep our town safe, but

2360
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,159
uh our council has not always been as uh

2361
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:27,360
proactive as this particular one is. And

2362
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,440
so um I think moving forward having uh

2363
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:33,600
issues followed up would be a good

2364
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,199
thing. Thank you very much for

2365
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:37,360
listening.

2366
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,520
>> Thank you, Rita. Any other public

2367
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,629
comments?

2368
01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:45,520
Okay. Going once, going twice, going

2369
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,040
three times. All right. I'm closing

2370
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,199
public comment.

2371
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:51,280
All right. So, bringing it back to the

2372
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,920
council for discussion. Who would like

2373
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:59,510
to go first?

2374
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,280
» Okay, Judith. Thank you.

2375
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:04,800
>> Sure. Um, look, I do think it's worth

2376
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,920
trying myself. Um, we have the right to

2377
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,520
revoke the authority at any time for any

2378
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,920
reason if we adopt it. And I am curious

2379
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,239
to see if we can get greater

2380
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:20,239
participation

2381
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:23,199
um by some of these bodies and make it

2382
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:28,400
easier for them to to meet. Um, so I

2383
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,280
would I would be in favor of trying it.

2384
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,119
I I think there are some legitimate

2385
01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:35,600
questions that are being raised here.

2386
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,239
Um, but I think we can try it out for a

2387
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:40,480
while and see if it's um something

2388
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:43,199
that's manageable. That's my view.

2389
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:44,560
>> Thank you, Mary.

2390
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,320
>> Yeah, I I totally agree that we should

2391
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,199
give it a try. Um, in particular, I

2392
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:52,080
think committees like parks and wreck uh

2393
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,080
we've gotten the idea that we it's not

2394
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,080
possible to be a Brown Act committee.

2395
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,600
Well, it is possible and hopefully these

2396
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,960
little modifications will little by

2397
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,920
little will make it easier easy enough

2398
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:05,440
so we can actually get people

2399
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:08,080
participating again.

2400
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,480
>> Thank you, Rebecca.

2401
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:12,560
>> Yeah, in general, I'm uh supportive of

2402
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,920
allowing uh these bodies to meet

2403
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,880
remotely. Um

2404
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,520
I I would like to get a confirmation on

2405
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,440
Judith's question about the triggers

2406
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:29,280
whether the two are required to meet the level or if it's if it's one or the

2407
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,239
other. Um

2408
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:34,719
uh I don't know I don't have a strong

2409
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:36,080
opinion on whether the committee should

2410
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,719
meet at least a certain number of times

2411
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:41,360
in person. Um, I think it would be

2412
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,360
helpful to have it, you know, a minimal

2413
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,040
amount,

2414
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,560
you know, at least maybe a couple times

2415
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,119
a year in person or something if it made

2416
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:52,080
sense. Um,

2417
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,239
otherwise, I do support committees being

2418
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:56,639
able to meet remotely and attendance as

2419
01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:59,119
well for, you know, individual people to

2420
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:01,840
be able to remotely as well as and still

2421
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,600
participate as a voting member when

2422
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,119
they're traveling. I don't know if

2423
01:43:05,119 --> 01:43:09,600
that's part of this at all. So, that's my viewpoint. I don't know if it

2424
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,199
requires

2425
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:14,480
um I if we can go ahead and and and

2426
01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:16,639
approve this tonight or if we need to

2427
01:43:16,639 --> 01:43:18,480
have it have it come back as a consent

2428
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:21,040
item after there's been a little bit

2429
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,199
more um clarification on some of the

2430
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:25,679
open issues or if I don't know I don't

2431
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:27,520
have opinion on that one.

2432
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,910
>> Okay. Thank you. Helen

2433
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,080
» maybe I misunderstood. I thought this

2434
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,880
was for someone traveling for instance.

2435
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,520
Is this for the entire body to be Yeah.

2436
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,320
>> remote? Oh, I sorry. I missed that memo

2437
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:43,199
somehow.

2438
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,520
>> Somebody has to open it up, right?

2439
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,000
>> In person.

2440
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,600
Okay. So, um, you know, I

2441
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,000
definitely like the idea of being able

2442
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,040
to be remote, but I do I think it would

2443
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,639
be important to have, um,

2444
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:02,400
first of all to I I would have like a

2445
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:09,199
maximum of a person who's traveling individually

2446
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:12,080
do it four times a year. um is what I

2447
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,000
would like because if if they're always

2448
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:21,760
traveling, I'm concerned about that. Um

2449
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,440
so, and it would be to me it would be an

2450
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,679
honor system out of respect and things

2451
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:30,400
happen, but I would like that. And um

2452
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,600
and I do like Rebecca's idea of having,

2453
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:38,550
you know, them meet in person

2454
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,119
x number of times. I don't know you know

2455
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:43,920
four times a year also keep it same same

2456
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,440
or something so that people can remember

2457
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:49,760
it four and four or something um I you

2458
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,320
know and not everyone has to be at that

2459
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,199
those four but like that it would be an

2460
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:57,040
in-person meeting at least four times a

2461
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,600
year um and if people are traveling then

2462
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,520
they can zoom in as well so that's what

2463
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,320
I would recommend

2464
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,360
>> thank you um I mean I think we just do

2465
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:08,400
everything we can to support

2466
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,480
volunteerism in the town. So, I'm in

2467
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:12,400
favor of doing this. I have serious

2468
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,280
reservations about this any random issue

2469
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,280
getting brought to the council um and

2470
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,159
having to be dealt with in 60 days. But

2471
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:21,600
I think we should do is we should just

2472
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,280
pass it. I would recommend we just pass

2473
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,280
it as is um and that we try it and see

2474
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,520
if we, you know, if we if we find that

2475
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,520
there are problems, we can then change

2476
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:32,960
this. I mean, we got to renew it every

2477
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,119
six months anyway. So, I would say let's

2478
01:45:35,119 --> 01:45:37,119
start it and see if, you know, if we end

2479
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:38,480
up getting a lot of random requests,

2480
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,639
then maybe we stop doing it. Or if we

2481
01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:42,639
end up with people who are doing remote

2482
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:44,080
all the time and never seeing each other

2483
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,080
and we decide that's not a good thing,

2484
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,400
then maybe we add additional language.

2485
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:49,840
But I think we should just pass the

2486
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,960
resolution tonight and see how it goes.

2487
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,880
>> I second the motion.

2488
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,280
>> Um, okay. Not sure that is exactly a

2489
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,880
motion, but but but but that wasn't

2490
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,480
quite a motion. But but I will make the

2491
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:06,080
motion that we pass the

2492
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:07,119
now. If you want to second that, you

2493
01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:07,360
can.

2494
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:08,400
>> I'll second that motion.

2495
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,040
>> All right, Veronica, we have a motion

2496
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,639
and a second.

2497
01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:18,390
>> Council member Walter.

2498
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,719
» Um

2499
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:24,320
uh and happily, yes.

2500
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,880
>> Council member Hasco,

2501
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,080
>> I. Council member Flynn.

2502
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,320
>> Uh, yes. Since we are reconsidering this

2503
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,280
in six months. Yes.

2504
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,520
>> Vice Mayor Hufty.

2505
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:38,320
>> I.

2506
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,280
>> Mayor Taylor.

2507
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:39,600
>> I.

2508
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:40,560
>> Motion carries.

2509
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,159
>> Thank you. Thank you, Helen. I mean, I I

2510
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:45,679
appreciate your comments. I I think we

2511
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:46,880
should just, you know, let's just review

2512
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,320
it in six months.

2513
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:49,040
>> Yeah.

2514
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,360
>> I know we've already moved, but can can

2515
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:53,360
the committees make decisions about the

2516
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,280
what they'd like to do? In other words,

2517
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,440
would they like to say, I we have to

2518
01:46:57,440 --> 01:46:59,280
have at least one live meeting.

2519
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:00,480
>> So, they can do whatever they want,

2520
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:02,639
right? This just gives them within this

2521
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:04,320
window, they they can do what they want.

2522
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:05,119
Um,

2523
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:07,760
>> okay. I' I'd like to move on to agenda

2524
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,520
item number eight.

2525
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:14,000
>> Um, so are there any oral reports that

2526
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,119
need to be made?

2527
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:20,639
>> No. I mean, the finance committee um

2528
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:21,520
meeting was held.

2529
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,080
>> I'll make that one. That's right. I

2530
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,600
mean, I'm the le I'm the lean actually.

2531
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,679
>> But um yes, but um happy to trade.

2532
01:47:31,679 --> 01:47:34,159
>> No, that's okay. I gota I got to admit I

2533
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:35,440
lose track. But if you're the because I

2534
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:36,320
was going to make that comment, but if

2535
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,760
you're feel supplement because I I'll

2536
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,440
get it started. You supplement and then

2537
01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:43,440
we'll deal with it. It I mean we heard

2538
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:45,840
about the budget. So no need to repeat

2539
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,560
that. Tony did a great job on that. And

2540
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:54,880
then um you know I will say that um

2541
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,880
it was not clear to me that the members

2542
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,280
knew what they needed to do. In other

2543
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:02,800
words, some of them felt like they

2544
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,400
needed to make a recommendation and

2545
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,280
didn't. So there was a little bit of uh

2546
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,360
lack of clarity there. But I think it

2547
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,840
ended up with them, you know, hearing it

2548
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,080
out, asking good questions, and the

2549
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,880
result was the the presentation tonight.

2550
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:18,320
So, I'm going to turn over to Craig

2551
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,360
about the the presentation that he made.

2552
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,520
I don't want to characterize that. So,

2553
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,760
and anything else you want to fill in?

2554
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:26,960
>> Yeah, I actually wasn't going to speak

2555
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,400
to that. I was just going to say that I

2556
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:29,920
thought it was a good robust discussion

2557
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,280
and if people are interested in the

2558
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,760
finances, they should watch the video.

2559
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,840
>> Yep.

2560
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,000
>> And everybody should watch the video of

2561
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,760
the airport roundt

2562
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,639
is fascinating. It's fascinating.

2563
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:47,119
President Trump's unleashed American

2564
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:49,600
drone dominance so that we can have

2565
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,320
vertical uh transportation right into

2566
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:53,920
Portolo Valley LA. It's going to be

2567
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:54,560
great.

2568
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,520
>> I I had actually had to go look that up

2569
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,000
and got really went down a big rabbit

2570
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,199
hole. It was really fun

2571
01:49:01,199 --> 01:49:03,360
>> actually

2572
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,480
right

2573
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:06,159
>> but I did want to make a small

2574
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:07,360
correction.

2575
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,560
>> Oh god.

2576
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,600
>> Um you have contact Licardo or Mueller

2577
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,040
to let them know.

2578
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,880
>> Uhhuh. it. I think you meant maybe

2579
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,440
Mullen. Congressman Mullen.

2580
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:19,760
>> Um Oh, yeah.

2581
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:20,480
>> Yeah.

2582
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:22,000
>> Oh, Mullen. Okay.

2583
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,199
>> Yep. Um

2584
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:24,080
>> can't even remember.

2585
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,520
>> Yeah. Mueller has no jurisdiction over

2586
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:28,080
federal.

2587
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:28,719
>> Mullen.

2588
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:31,280
>> F A M U L E N.

2589
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,520
>> Mullen. M U L L I N.

2590
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,360
>> I N.

2591
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,840
>> Um. So,

2592
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,159
>> thank you. Sorry, small correction.

2593
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:40,880
>> It's okay.

2594
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,639
>> Okay.

2595
01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:45,679
But there's an opening.

2596
01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:46,880
>> You do conserve.

2597
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,679
>> I just want to get money from the SFO.

2598
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:51,920
Really, that's all I wanted for the

2599
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,840
town.

2600
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,719
Um, I do have a small conservation

2601
01:49:56,719 --> 01:50:02,149
committee I covered for Rebecca. Um,

2602
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:04,480
it's a contentious committee. There's a

2603
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:06,719
lot of tension on it. I just uh I hope

2604
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:08,800
that people who know people who are on

2605
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,480
it, we need to talk to people about

2606
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:13,360
being respectful of each other.

2607
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:18,719
Um and they are working on a list. I'm

2608
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:21,199
going to try to get this straight. List

2609
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:24,880
of planting that would be ministerial.

2610
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,880
Did I get that?

2611
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,239
It's Yeah, it

2612
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:32,400
objective standards. Thank you. Not

2613
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,239
ministerial. Thank you. You're right.

2614
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:36,239
objective standards. So a plant list

2615
01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:39,600
that would be objective and we you know

2616
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,159
so that they can easily plant when

2617
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:47,040
things are being developed. So but the

2618
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,000
but right if you have remind people to

2619
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,719
be kind and respectful on on that

2620
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:54,560
committee if you know people there

2621
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,840
>> we we also I'll just point it out. I

2622
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,520
don't want to discuss we have the code

2623
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,560
of ethics that applies so it might be a

2624
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:04,239
tool

2625
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:06,400
>> for you it

2626
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,960
>> well it's usually Rebecca's but I was

2627
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:13,669
sorry Rebecca

2628
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:17,920
» but we you know I just you know we all

2629
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,239
have um know people on that you know on

2630
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:22,800
that committee so there's been some

2631
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:28,159
chatter to me so um just it we need to

2632
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:31,600
make sure that the tone on committees

2633
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,600
are thoughtful and kind and

2634
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:36,400
thank you.

2635
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:40,880
>> Thank you. Okay. Um so with that I will

2636
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,800
open it up to public comment.

2637
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,599
Is there any public comments?

2638
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:49,360
See no one in the room. I see no one

2639
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,400
online. Going once, going twice, three

2640
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,040
times. Gone. Okay. Um then I would look

2641
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,760
for a motion to adjourn. So moved.

2642
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,520
>> Second. Thank you everyone. Great.