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All right, welcome everyone. I'd like to

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call this meeting to order. Veronica,

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would you do roll call, please? And we

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need to do the um announcement of remote

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attendance. So, why don't we start with

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» Uh, thank you, Mayor. I want to state

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for the record um that this meeting is

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being conducted pursuant to the

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teleconference rules um under the Brown

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Act and that Council Member Flynn is

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participating remotely uh from Greece.

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Um the address is posted on the agenda.

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I will not try to pronounce the name of

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the street. Uh, and in accordance with

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the Brown Act, uh, the teleconference

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location has been identified in the

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agenda for tonight's meeting. Uh, and I

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want to note for the record that we have

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a quorum of council members present here

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in person. Um, Council Member Flynn, can

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you hear me? Okay.

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» Yes, I can.

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» Great. And you have you been able to

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hear the proceedings up until now?

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» Yes, I have.

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» Uh, do you have a a copy of the agenda

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for tonight's meeting?

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» I do. And have you posted the agenda at

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your location?

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» I have. Yes.

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» And is your location reasonably

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accessible to the public such that any

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member of the public could participate

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in this teleconference from your

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location if he or she wish to do so?

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» Yes, it is.

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» And is there any member of the public

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with you now?

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» No, there isn't.

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» Okay, great. Um, and so, uh, as a

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reminder to the council, all votes

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tonight need to be taken by roll call.

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And um now I'd invite the town clerk to

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proceed with the roll call.

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» Council member Walter

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» Present.

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» Council member Hasco

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» Council member Flynn

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» Present.

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» Vice Mayor Huy

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» Mayor Taylor

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» Present.

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» We have a quorum.

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» Thank you. All right. So our first item

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of business is a proclamation. Helen's

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going to present and I was happy to

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sign. So Helen, go ahead.

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» Good evening. Thank you, mayor. Um, so

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as many people know, June is Pride

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Month, and here in our community, that

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means something real. We're a small

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town, but we've never been a

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small-minded one. Our neighbors include

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people of every background, every

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identity, every story, and that's not a

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weakness, which is exactly what makes

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this place worth calling home. Pride

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isn't just about celebration, though.

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Though celebration matters, it's also

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about remembering where we've been. It's

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about remembering the people who stood

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up so that their neighbors, their

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children, and strangers they'd never met

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could live openly, honestly, and with a

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authenticity.

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that history. And here in Porto Valley,

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that history isn't abstract. It's the

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kid in the high school down the street

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um who needs to know they belong.

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okay. Um, it's the couple who moved here

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because they felt safe. Um, it's the

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coworker. I'm like totally tearing up.

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friend, the uncle, and the niece. So,

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this month, let's be intentional. Let's

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make sure every person in this community

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feels genuinely welcome, not just in

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June, but all year long. Happy Pride

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Thank you, Helen.

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» So, thank you. And I know we have some

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speakers who um folks who have joined me

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to say we can do a stand after.

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» Hello. Um hi, my name is Marilyn

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Sanonteo County LGBTQIA plus commission

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and um we are delighted we are delighted

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that Portola Valley is doing this. Um,

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part of our job as commissioners is to

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advise the county supervisors on policy,

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on budget and actions um that affect our

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comm the LGBTQIA+, sorry about the

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alphabet, um, community. Um, and so and

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having cities do these types of things

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um, is so meaningful because we could do

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things at the county level. We had a

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pride flag raising. We have a

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proclamation that was issued by the

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board of supervisors, but having each

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town, and most of the towns in the

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county, by the way, are doing this. Um,

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having each town do this brings it

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closer to home, as as Helen said. Um,

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and it's meaningful. It means something

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because when you have a public uh body

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that is publicly saying, "We support, we

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support this community, and this is a

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safe place," it means something. I

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raised my kids in Santa CL in Sonteo

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County in in Milbury actually where I

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was this morning and um and knowing that

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it was a safe place that I could go to

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the schools. My my co-mother and I

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brought our child to the first the first

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week of school we went to see the the

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principal and we said we are this

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child's mothers and we don't expect

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there'll be any issues. And this was a

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long time ago. This was 25 years ago.

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and he looked at us and he looked at us

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and he said, "There will be no issues."

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there were questions. Um, you know, when

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when my kids drew the the pictures of

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what their family looked like, the

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teachers would often take us aside and

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say, "Who's this and who's this?" Um,

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because and and it was it was important

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that they felt comfortable asking

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questions and getting to know us and

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that we felt my our children were safe.

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out as transgender in high school at

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Mills High School and was safe.

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was. And I Are we going to do the flag?

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flag raising. Not today. It's okay.

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» I think we've had it up all day.

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» So, we have it. It's over at our town

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» This is slightly different than here.

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» So, and yeah. Yeah. So, we we raise it

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and put it down, but we do have a

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proclamation when you're ready and we'll

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all stand together for a picture if you

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» That'll be great. Well, the flag, let me

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just say something about the flag and

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why that's important because how many

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people use this facility a lot, right?

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bring their dogs. They bring their kids

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the kids as they're growing up, they'll

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ask, "What is that?" and hopefully their

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parents will say good things about it

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who they are. And so I want to thank you

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on behalf of the commission and the

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county supervisors. I want to thank you

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for doing this for your town. Um and

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invite you by the way to the pride

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celebration that for the county that is

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in San Monteo on Saturday. It's from

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Monteo and it's a family-friendly event

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» You need a flag.

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» Good evening, Darcy Smith. I will give a

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brief report, but first start with

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upcoming town events. So, today was a

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very busy day because we had the

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end of year celebration and tonight we

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were having the Cormandera graduation

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carpull if you can or walk or bike or

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ride your horse. And two, please, if you

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bring trash, pack it out because we

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spent basically all afternoon picking up

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trash, including tiny water balloons,

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which we will not have at Town Center

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again. So, today will always go down as

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the infamous day of the water balloon

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fights that were the last ones at town

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» The last water.

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audit which Tony has been living

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breathing losing many hours of sleep

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over. So as you know we completed 2122

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soon as possible. But a quick update on

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the 2223 audits and all the work that

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done. But most importantly, we've set

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the finance committee meeting for June

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30th at 4 p.m. So, please try to attend

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that. Tony completed the MDNA.

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meant. Management discussion and

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analysis. That's the beginning 10 or so

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pages. The auditor prepared their

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opinion yet letter, which is very

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important. And last, all what's being

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done right now is the very important

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memorandum of internal control. That is

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what it sounds like, the auditor's

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observations and recommendations for any

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compliance items and that's being

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prepared right now, but it will be

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published with the finance committee

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packet which will come out uh about 5

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» Thank you, Darcy.

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my agenda. Everything's open. All right.

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So then I'd like to open it up. Number

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five, oral communications. So is there

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anyone in the schoolhouse that would

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like to speak on something not on the

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agenda? Kim, please.

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Good evening. This is Kim Giulia,

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division chief and fire marshall with

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Woodside Fire Protection District. It's

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something not on the agenda for once and

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I'm really excited to make this

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announcement because it comes at a good

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time given the safety element meeting

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that just happened is Woodside Fire is

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going to be hosting a town evacuation

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drill

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date set on September 11th of 20

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happened to be on a Friday

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and we thought Hey, what what a great

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date to do this on. It will be of course

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in partnership with the town of Portola

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Valley and staff and partnering

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agencies. So, this will be a large scale

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with having Woodside Fire, Redwood City,

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Menllo Park, PG& Cow Water. So, we are

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making it as real of a drill as we can.

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To answer the biggest question that

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everybody has, not all of the town of

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Portulla Valley is evacuating.

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There will be specific zones that will

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be called out. We are going to be

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utilizing um SMC alert as well as

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Genesis so that people can get familiar

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with using those tools. Some areas will

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be put on warning. Some areas will be

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actually the ones under evacuation. The

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scenario will be shared later on on

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where the fire is actually taking place

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in the district or in sorry in Porto

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Valley. And we through fire modeling are

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getting all the information of data of

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how quickly the fire would actually

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spread and grow, which direction, and

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that's how we're going to call out the

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zones. Currently, Woodside Fire, our

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south zone training, which means Redwood

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City, Cal Fire, uh Menllo Park, they are

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doing wildland fire drill training this

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this week, and they're up in the Los

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Tranos area. There was an announcement

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they put out specifically to the

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residents. they're working out on Red

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Berry Ridge. A lot of it was for a

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familiarization for our adjoining

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jurisdictions who would be coming to our

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aid if there was a wildfire. And it was

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because that area is very complicated.

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And when you're not used to driving in

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areas such as those conditions, it's

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very complicated to fight fires. So,

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they're doing realistic wildland fire

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drills. They are also doing some

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simulated smoke out there. um to make it

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seem as real as possible. They're also

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placarding homes so that homes are used

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to what it is for another jurisdiction

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that has no idea what these houses are

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and basically assessing each house if

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it's a house worth defending or passing

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on because they they aren't able to

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safely protect the structure. So,

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there's a lot of different levels to

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that um evacuation drill that they're

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doing this week. And it comes at a great

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time because now when we come into

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September to do the actual evacuation

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drill, they will have that kind of

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training just fresh in their minds for

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what was done this week. Thank you.

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» Thank you, Kim.

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All right. Is there anybody else that

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would like to make a oral communication?

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Looking online, I see no hands.

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All right. So, I will move on.

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Okay. So moving on to the consent

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agenda.

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Are there I guess let's see we usually

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take

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well okay.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Uh go ahead Christie.

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Is it oral communication?

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» Yes. Thank you.

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Thank you. Um, I didn't get to talk at

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the last 2-hour meeting, but after

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attending the 5 to7 study session on the

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state safety element, I was interested

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in reading the individual planning

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commission letters such as Ronnie and

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Karen Vatras as a public member. Yet,

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those letters were not made public and

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sent only to the consultant for the 5:00

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meeting. So, this is our town. We live

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in it. And often when we read these

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letters, we often uh it produces

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questions and uh education in our minds

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and whether agreement or not. So it was

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just awkward to only see the BPTS

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letter, one letter listed for the public

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and not the other letters. So, I guess

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my

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question is to always list the letters

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so the public can read um because we

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like education. Um

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let's see. Consider requesting um

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from the state to have the ability to

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have a third lane on our evacuation

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exits. I think that's an important

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request from Karen Vatra. I want to see

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a practiced evacuation and I was so

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happy to see that. Thank you, Kim. I

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don't even have to read it. Um,

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we would like to see the color changes

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on the new and old terminology of the

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safety element and be able to see the

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state requirements versus our local uh

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requirements that we're adding. I want

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to see the exact process for if there

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was an earthquake to occur. And I want

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to thank the geological committee for an

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excellent committee meeting yesterday.

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Uh it was very educational and I

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encourage everyone to listen to that

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meeting. Um you know something I gained

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from the meeting is 6.7 or greater

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earthquake may happen in the Bay Area

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and there's twothirds of a chance in the

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next 30 years. So um let's get on top of

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this. Thank you.

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» Thank you Christie.

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All right. So, I will now open up public

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comment on the consent agenda. So, I see

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no one in the room.

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Is there anyone online that wants to

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make a comment about the consent agenda?

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All right. I see no hands online, so I'm

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going to close public comment. Um, are

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there any,

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excuse me, consent agenda items that

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any, um, council member would like to

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pull, Ellen?

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» Um, I'd like to pull uh 6C, please.

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» And I have a question on D.

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» 6B. Did you say

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» D?

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» D. Okay. And did you want to pull it for

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discussion or is it a quick question?

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» I think it's a more complicated

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question.

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» Okay. So, we should pull it.

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All right. So, I would entertain a

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motion for A, B, E, and F.

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» Motion to approve 6 A, B, E, and F.

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» Second.

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» Thank you. We have a motion in a second.

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Ronic, can we have roll call?

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» Council Council Member Walter.

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» I.

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» Council member Hasco.

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» I.

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» Council member Flynn.

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» I.

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» Vice Mayor Huy.

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» I.

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» Mayor Taylor.

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» I.

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» Motion carries 5-0. Okay. So, let's

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start with 6C.

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Ellen, what's your

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» Yep. Um,

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» Question comment.

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» So, I wanted to be clear on the costs of

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the EV charging situation.

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Um, sorry, I'm getting to that on my um

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So, is the cost 322,695

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less? It says entitlement portion is

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currently estimated at 53,000.

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711

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could I so because init our grant is for

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317

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so has have there been so are we've gone

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up in cost I need clarification on this

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my understanding the costs are still

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what was identified in the budget the

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you know the 320,000

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grant plus the 64

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or 67,000 for cost. So that's our

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portion of the costs for the project.

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But with now that we're going to be

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combining resources there, there are

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opportunities for cost efficiency. So it

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could go down. So but as I rec so what

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I'm unclear on is um is the entitlement

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portion which could go down because of

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the scale of economy. Um, and obviously

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this was not supposed it was supposed to

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be not in cash but in staff time,

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» Correct?

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» So is that still that's still the same.

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So you're saying the entitlement

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uh portion is for staff time.

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» Mhm.

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» Okay, great. That's what I wanted to

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clarify. Thank you.

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» Okay. Any other questions on C?

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» Just a real quick one. Um, and it it

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goes to the contract itself. we are

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promising to

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indemnify and hold harmless these other

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jurisdictions which are way bigger than

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us. Um is that I don't want to get into

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the legal theory but I just want to make

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sure that's been looked at by

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um the town attorney and and viewed as

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ordinary course. It's on page 32

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in the packet or 33 depending.

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I will say yes um we did provide legal

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review of thisou and it is based on

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otherus that the cities within the

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county have entered into for other types

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of projects. So this is yeah a bit of a

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standard form. I do hear your point

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about relative size between these four

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jurisdictions though.

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» Yeah and I assume it only kicks in if we

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do something bad.

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» Correct.

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» Okay. Thank you. Anything

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bad?

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» Yeah. No bad. All right. Any other

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comments on 6C? All right. I'd entertain

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a motion for 6 C.

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» So moved.

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» Second.

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» Second.

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» Thank you. Motion is second. Bronick.

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Roll call.

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» Council member Walter.

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» I.

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» Council member Hasco.

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» I.

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» Council member Flynn.

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» I.

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» Vice Mayor Hufty.

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» I.

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» Mayor Taylor.

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» I.

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» Motion carries.

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» Thank you. Judith 16.

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» Yeah. So mot uh good to see them moving

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on uh legislation on organized metal

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theft. That's we've obviously been

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significantly impacted. My question is

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trying to make sure that we haven't

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invested a ton of legal fees analyzing

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legislation that's probably going to

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change. I assume this is like a form

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that other jurisdictions have signed up

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to.

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Yes. So,

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in a simple

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world, we get off we often get requests

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from the League of California Cities,

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which we're a member of, and they send

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us these sample letters. And believe me,

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we get a ton and usually I sort through

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them and don't believe that they weren't

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bringing to council, but especially

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given the public concerns about the

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telecommunications

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copper theft recently and the fact that

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it's ongoing and pervasive throughout

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the state. I thought after conferring

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with the mayor and vice mayor, this was

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warrant warranted bringing to council,

547
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but it was a very minimal amount of work

548
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,440
and they are form letters

549
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,799
» Because the legislation's going to

550
00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,400
change. I'm I just want to make sure

551
00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:04,559
we're not committing to weigh in on a

552
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:07,200
constant basis. Okay. Um all good then.

553
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:08,960
Motion to approve 6D unless there's

554
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,640
other questions. I didn't mean to get

555
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,200
ahead of the process. Were there any

556
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,440
other questions or discussion on 16?

557
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,400
Okay, great. So, we've got a motion and

558
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,840
a second. Roll call, please.

559
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,240
» Council member Walter,

560
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,679
» I.

561
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,080
» Council member Hesco,

562
00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:24,320
» I.

563
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,200
» Council member Flynn,

564
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,720
» I.

565
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,120
» Vice Mayor Huy,

566
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,000
» I.

567
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,400
» Mayor Taylor,

568
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,440
» I.

569
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,280
» Motion carries.

570
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,159
» Thank you. All right. I'm going to close

571
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:38,320
out agenda item six and move on to

572
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:40,240
agenda seven. So 7A is reauthorizing the

573
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,960
town treasurer.

574
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,600
So Tony, is this your staff report?

575
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,760
» Uh yes. And this is a pretty much an

576
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,120
administrative matter. Every year we're

577
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,600
required by the code to reauthorize the

578
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:56,880
town manager as town treasurer. U

579
00:23:53,600 --> 00:24:00,080
included in this year was a small slight

580
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:04,400
uh clerical change to the investment

581
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:06,640
policy where uh authority was delegated

582
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,520
to the finance manager. that position

583
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,960
will not be filled um this year being be

584
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,120
replaced by the assistant town manager.

585
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,400
So we just changed the language uh from

586
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,559
finance manager to assistant town

587
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,320
manager but this is a an annual

588
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,960
administrative process that the the town

589
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,880
is required to do by the municipal code.

590
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,880
» Okay. Thank you. Any clarifying

591
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,400
questions for Tony?

592
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,120
All right. Let me see if there's any

593
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,720
public comment. So I see no no public

594
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:34,120
comment in the room. Is there any public

595
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,120
comment online?

596
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:39,440
All right. I see no public comment, so I

597
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,240
bring it back. But I get a motion for

598
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320
7A.

599
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,799
» Um I minor

600
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,880
» Sorry

601
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:49,440
» Clerical effect. Um page 60. Bunch of

602
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,960
typos and grammatical issues. So

603
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,600
including Mayor Craig Taylor.

604
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,919
» So just clean it up, please. It's my

605
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,240
only request.

606
00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:00,960
» So can you just give them a after the

607
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,880
back? Just

608
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,440
» Yeah. Yeah. No, no. So, I'm I'm ready to

609
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,440
approve it.

610
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240
» Yeah. No, that great. Thank you.

611
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,559
» Take that on.

612
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,520
» Okay. So, can I get a motion to approve

613
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,120
7A?

614
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,320
» Motion to approve 7A.

615
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,200
» Thank you. Second.

616
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,000
» Second.

617
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,080
» Thank you, Veronica. Roll call.

618
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,919
» Council member Walter.

619
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,480
» I. Council member Husco.

620
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:23,360
» I. Council member Flynn.

621
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,880
» I.

622
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,360
» Vice Mayor Hufty.

623
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,240
» I.

624
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,559
» Mayor Taylor.

625
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,520
» I.

626
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,240
» Motion carries.

627
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,840
» Thank you. All right. Moving on to 7B.

628
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320
provide an update and receive direction

629
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,520
on proposed budget for fiscal years

630
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,520
2627. Tony,

631
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:43,880
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, good evening.

632
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,240
Your presentation will be brief. Um,

633
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,600
have not changed much since the finance

634
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,600
committee presentation of I think

635
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:17,200
So tonight we'll I'll give you a brief

636
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:20,000
overview of um the preliminary uh 2627

637
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,520
budget. um primarily focusing on the

638
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,159
general fund because that is our main

639
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,559
operating fund and there's really not a

640
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:29,919
lot of activity in our other funds um

641
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:33,120
that are um

642
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:36,240
out of the ordinary uh some carryover

643
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,760
activity from 2526 but this presentation

644
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,159
will primarily focus on the general

645
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,559
funding

646
00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:44,159
so but I wanted to give you an update on

647
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:47,360
2425

648
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:51,039
um and these are numbers as of May uh

649
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:55,679
revenue revenues are about 7 million. Um

650
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:57,600
about 88% of the budget. Uh so 11 months

651
00:26:55,679 --> 00:27:00,799
into the year, we're right on track with

652
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,760
budget. Um so we're anticipating to be

653
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:06,159
at or around 7.9 million uh by the end

654
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:10,760
of the fiscal year.

655
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:10,760
Um we are seeing um

656
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:19,200
uh property tax for about 90% that was

657
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:22,240
budgeted um and 86%. So as long as we're

658
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,960
around 88% at this time we're right on

659
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:30,200
track with budget.

660
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,200
Then on the expense side um

661
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Uh again, we're about 88% for the year.

662
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,320
Again, 11 months into the year. Uh so

663
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,200
we're looking to be um we have a deficit

664
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,919
budget of 263,000. We're currently

665
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,720
running a deficit at 204. So we're

666
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:54,960
underneath um where we are. So we're

667
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,240
tracking according to the budget plan.

668
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:01,440
Uh and we should be around the deficit

669
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,159
amount by the end of the fiscal year.

670
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,960
We're not out of

671
00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:11,080
out of areas or other all categories are

672
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,080
are tracking within the budget.

673
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,679
So moving on to the 2627. These are the

674
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:20,960
council priorities that have developed

675
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:24,159
uh the 2627 budget. Um and I won't go

676
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,480
over them but um they are well ingrained

677
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:31,799
in our

678
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,799
in our minds as we um develop this bill.

679
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:36,240
So looking at general fund revenues,

680
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,240
we're projecting about 8.2 year, which

681
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,360
is a 3.9%

682
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,720
increase as of right now. Um we still

683
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:47,039
have to do um analysis on the impact of

684
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,440
the user fee study. We still haven't

685
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:53,200
added or we still haven't approved all

686
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,720
of uh the user fees. So staff still uh

687
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,120
going through planning and building and

688
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,640
engineering and what impact uh the fee

689
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,880
study will have on those revenues. So

690
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:06,720
the 8.26 26 million number will probably

691
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:08,960
change, but right now it's 3.9% increase

692
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,200
and it's primarily tax revenue. So

693
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,159
property taxes we're looking at 5.3%

694
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,000
increase. Uh sales and use tax about

695
00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:20,480
7.7%.

696
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Um business license tax um we are

697
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,360
trending very well. business licenses.

698
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,640
We're issuing about 700 business lic

699
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:34,640
and um and primarily most of that work

700
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:38,640
is contractor work. Um and but also the

701
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:41,039
budget for 2526 was based on historical

702
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,240
trends based on numbers that were posted

703
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:46,000
and as we've been completing the audits

704
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360
and making the corrections in the

705
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,679
previous fiscal years, we're getting

706
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,520
truer numbers in regards to the activity

707
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:54,320
that's coming in revenue. I'm I'm able

708
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,360
to adjust some of our revenue numbers uh

709
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,360
upward. Um and but so but as of right

710
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:03,440
now, we've done an analysis on the tax

711
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:06,960
revenues. We're still waiting to um

712
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,840
uh see uh determine the impact of uh the

713
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,919
user feed uh the new user fees that will

714
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,919
be adopted.

715
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:21,880
and user fees are basically licenses and

716
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,880
permits and those categories.

717
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Um, looking at a property tax, what is

718
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:29,440
driving the growth in property tax? You

719
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,720
know, it's it's you we're not building

720
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,480
new homes. Um, and we're not and it's

721
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:39,279
partially part due to uh remodels. Uh,

722
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,600
but it is the basically the sale of

723
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:45,360
property uh from year to year. So this

724
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:48,799
chart shows uh single family resident

725
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:52,080
sales from 2021 through 2025.

726
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:55,520
We're averaging about 51 sales per year.

727
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,320
U and the median median price has been

728
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,120
5.2 million. Uh and then for non-s

729
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,880
single family resident homes. Um these

730
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,919
include multif family residences,

731
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,919
commercial, industrial, um we we're

732
00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:10,640
averaging about four sales a year with

733
00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:13,679
3.1 million. So when so when there is a

734
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,760
new sale the the the assessed value of

735
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:18,399
the home is then reassessed at the

736
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,919
market value of the house that uh so

737
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:25,480
establishes a new baseline uh for the 2%

738
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:25,480
increase per year.

739
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:34,240
So looking at general fund expenses u

740
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,399
planning about 8.85 85 million, the 7.7%

741
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,480
increase primarily driven by the

742
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:40,000
increase in the sheriff's contract. Uh

743
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,080
to the general fund, it's going to be

744
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000
about $488,000.

745
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,279
Um and we're currently projecting a

746
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,080
$584,000 deficit. Um we are still

747
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,399
reviewing the consultants um for

748
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,480
planning and building um and just

749
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:56,000
determining what hours are going to be

750
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,080
town work which will be charged to the

751
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,120
general fund and what will be applicant

752
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,440
work which will be charged to the u the

753
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,519
customer deposit fund. Um and we're

754
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,440
doing that for planning and building and

755
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:10,240
engineering and uh we'll have those

756
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,799
numbers updated uh for at the next

757
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,840
council meeting but as of right now

758
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:16,840
we're currently projecting a 584,000

759
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,320
As you can see, the largest increase is

760
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,480
the $498,000 in contract and contract

761
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:31,200
work includes the sheriff's contract,

762
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:34,399
Woodside Fire and um town attorney. Um

763
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:37,600
so, but the largest increase is about

764
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:39,440
488,000 of that 498,000

765
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,440
um is the sheriff's contract to general

766
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440
fund.

767
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120
And as I said, we're still under review.

768
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,360
We're looking at our subscriptions, the

769
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,039
use of consultants, and what the final

770
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:58,080
number will be for transfers out.

771
00:32:55,039 --> 00:33:00,399
Um the budget will have funding for 15

772
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,919
full-time equivalent positions. And

773
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:04,399
these are how the the positions will be

774
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:07,840
allocated by division. Administration

775
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:10,640
will have six positions. Um finance will

776
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,720
have well it'll be the assistant town

777
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,039
manager will be split between

778
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480
administration and finance uh planning

779
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,960
and building. We'll have the director,

780
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,360
the senior planner and then a we are

781
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,880
currently going to be recruiting for the

782
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120
senior development review technician

783
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,039
building inspector. Um and then we'll

784
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,919
also be uh starting recruitment for

785
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:33,320
finance manager and accountant one um as

786
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:33,320
soon as possible.

787
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:40,799
Um other cost increases um retirement

788
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,679
although the contribution rate has gone

789
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,360
down for fiscal year 2627 we are

790
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:48,640
starting the year with a higher number

791
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,399
of employees uh with fewer vacancies. So

792
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,080
the more employees we paid throughout

793
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:54,080
the year is going to result in increased

794
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,679
retirement contributions over the

795
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,240
previous year. So we're currently

796
00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:00,480
projecting about 135,000 retirement

797
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:06,519
contributions for the year. uh which is

798
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,519
about a $24,000 increase from 2526.

799
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,639
The U or the unfunded acred liability,

800
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,520
this is our advertised

801
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:17,679
uh cost of the pension liability. Um

802
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,679
this year it's going up about another

803
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:25,679
27,000 from 168 to 195. Um and this

804
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:27,919
number goes up every year. Uh there are

805
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:32,079
we can elect one-time savings if we

806
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:35,520
prepay. Uh but the savings are not um

807
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:37,679
it's less than 1% savings. So I'm not

808
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,720
currently recommending that we prepay

809
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:41,720
the U at this time.

810
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,599
Medical uh this is a significant

811
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:49,919
increase uh in our personnel costs uh

812
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,679
medical premiums on average. We have two

813
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:53,760
two plans that most of our employees

814
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,000
use. There's the Anthem plans and

815
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,880
there's Kaiser plans. Anthem rates have

816
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,640
increased approximately 12% per year

817
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:06,079
since 2122 and uh concurrently Kaiser

818
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:09,520
rates have increased 8% as well. Um and

819
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:12,240
um these are medical premiums that the

820
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,960
uh town pays. However, um a portion of

821
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,960
that cost is also um paid for by the

822
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,960
employees.

823
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,880
So,

824
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,599
so we're looking about 252,000 for

825
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,400
medical premiums uh this year, which is

826
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,400
an increase of about 27,000

827
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,320
and contract services talked about

828
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,800
earlier uh town attorney, sheriff's

829
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,359
office with site fire and then we also

830
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,040
have uh consultants with uh planning and

831
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:46,560
building uh good city is our planning

832
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,760
consultants. CSG consultants do building

833
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:53,920
inspections, plan review, and then Inner

834
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:56,240
West does town engineering and also CIP

835
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,720
project management. Then we also have a

836
00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:01,040
contract with Shims Kota that helps with

837
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:03,760
permit processing. And then our

838
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,240
subscriptions uh you know just a list of

839
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,240
some of the subcriptions open gov other

840
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:12,400
IT infrastructure

841
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:14,720
starlink ring zoom um the biggest uh

842
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,800
we're no longer using well we won't be

843
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,400
using intergov this will be the last

844
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,680
year of intergov uh we we'll not we will

845
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200
not have any future payments towards

846
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,960
intergov it's all being switched to open

847
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,800
gov uh but there will be a slight

848
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,680
increase in costs um with the annual

849
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,040
subscriptions but in the long run it'll

850
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,599
it'll

851
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,040
result in better better c customer

852
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:38,079
service for our applicants through

853
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,359
planning and building.

854
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:45,920
So looking at the sheriff as you can see

855
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:48,000
for 2627 the contract increased $197,000

856
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,839
which is 8.4%.

857
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,200
However in previous years we've been

858
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:55,520
using ARPA funding uh we also were using

859
00:36:53,200 --> 00:37:00,160
expired credits uh to offset some of

860
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,160
these cost increases. um 2627 those use

861
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,400
of additional onetime funds is no longer

862
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,720
available. So there's going to be a

863
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,680
$488,000 increase to the general fund

864
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:13,200
and it's made up of the $197,000

865
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:16,560
increase uh to the contract plus the

866
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,640
expiration of the $211,000 credit.

867
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,480
And then we're not using ARPA funds. So

868
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,520
that's another $100,000 that we do no

869
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,720
longer have available. Um, we will use

870
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,560
an additional $20,000 in cops funding uh

871
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,599
to help offset this cost. Now, we do

872
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:35,680
receive from public safety sales tax and

873
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:38,400
cops uh about

874
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,760
it's less than 10% of the total contract

875
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,880
cost. Uh so it really is not it's not

876
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
really going to make any significant

877
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,280
dent in offsetting the cost of the

878
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:51,920
general fund. Uh so this $488,000

879
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,520
increase will adjust the baseline per

880
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,320
share for the sheriff's contract in the

881
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,320
general fund moving forward.

882
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:05,359
Westside Fire um

883
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:08,000
the costs are about the same uh from

884
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:10,720
previous year. Uh not much increase. Uh

885
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,599
we will be using uh Woodside Fire for 60

886
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:16,160
days of vegetation management. uh the

887
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:18,320
chipper costs there was a decrease in

888
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:24,280
the chipper cost from previous year and

889
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,280
then uh education costs of 59,000

890
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,240
and the capital improvement plan um went

891
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,599
uh council reviewed this a couple

892
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:38,560
meetings ago we're looking at about 1.45

893
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:40,960
million total for capital improvements.

894
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,720
However, post adoption, we probably have

895
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,119
some additional decisions to make on the

896
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,720
Fordfield bathroom, Valley Oak Trail

897
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:51,359
Bridges, and the Shauny Path speed

898
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:52,960
humps. Um, and but you know, we're in

899
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:54,880
development of those projects as we

900
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,680
speak or there's other mitigating issues

901
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,280
in regards to u the trail bridges and

902
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,760
then bathroom. We're waiting the results

903
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,440
of the feasibility study,

904
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,680
but we probably will not have those in

905
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:10,640
time for the adoption of the budget.

906
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:14,079
So this is the fiscal forecast. Um it

907
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:17,359
has not been updated u with projected

908
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:19,040
revenues and full expenses for 27 or

909
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:21,920
2627.

910
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Uh so this this chart will be updated um

911
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,000
when we bring the budget back for

912
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:30,760
adoption. But this is this has been our

913
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,760
story for since November of 2024.

914
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,240
So that concludes my report. Okay, yield

915
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040
back to council for questions and

916
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,280
direction.

917
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,920
» Thank you, Tony. So, clarifying

918
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,920
questions on the presentation.

919
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:48,400
» Yeah, ju just a handful. Um, the graph

920
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:52,880
you just said that you just showed, you

921
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,440
said it hasn't been updated since 2024

922
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,119
like

923
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,440
» No, it has been updated. I just haven't

924
00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:00,400
updated it with 2627.

925
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,560
» Oh, okay. Okay. Do you expect it to have

926
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:06,560
any material difference?

927
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,560
» Yeah. Well, with the user fee study and

928
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,800
you know putting those into the analysis

929
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,400
where revenue ends up, but also we're

930
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,320
all looking at the consultants. So there

931
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,720
there's going to be a change in the

932
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,480
general fund for 2627 based on the

933
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:22,720
numbers now.

934
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,720
» But it's still, you know, 6% increase in

935
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,560
expenses, 4% increase in revenue, but

936
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,880
those numbers are going to change

937
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,880
» Once we complete our analysis.

938
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,680
» But it doesn't sound like it's night and

939
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,359
day different. like we we can assume

940
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,520
ballpark

941
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:38,000
» It will still look similar.

942
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,839
» Yeah.

943
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,599
» But there might the the gap between

944
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,000
revenues expenses might shrink a little

945
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:42,480
bit.

946
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,960
» Okay.

947
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160
» But the overall direction of the black

948
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,359
line is not

949
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,079
» Yeah, that's my question. Um remind me

950
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:52,800
of the speed bumps. Was that I can't

951
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,839
recall

952
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,000
» The the young man from was it CO Madera

953
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:58,800
made the presentations.

954
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,200
» Oh,

955
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,640
» Okay. Now I remember. Thank you. you

956
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,359
know, engaging the BPTS committee,

957
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,280
» Okay,

958
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:09,440
» Kind of developing and we do have we do

959
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,720
have funding for that project. Uh we do

960
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400
receive transportation funding. We got

961
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,040
measure A, measure W. So, this is a

962
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:19,760
project that we could probably do.

963
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:24,240
» Um and uh the town attorney

964
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:26,640
and the legal services, one is for non

965
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,920
uh shoot maholi expenses. Is that

966
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,119
correct? Two lines.

967
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,599
» Yes. And there were changes in those

968
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:36,800
costs. Are you projecting needing less?

969
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:39,040
It was page 74 of the packet. I don't

970
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,040
know if you want to flip to that.

971
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:45,680
» Yeah, because well, we've we've had some

972
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,800
activities this year that uh have

973
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,200
increased those costs. We're not

974
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,720
anticipating them for 26 27.

975
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,800
» You're not anticipate. Okay, that was my

976
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,160
question. Okay. And then the last thing

977
00:41:52,800 --> 00:42:00,319
is um the consultants I know we've done

978
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:03,040
a good job already analyzing Sarah I

979
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:05,200
think heavily involved in analyzing who

980
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,920
are using for what is that work going to

981
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,800
continue and might that have an impact.

982
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,480
» Yes. This is the first year since I've

983
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,920
been here where we actually have

984
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,520
somebody in planning and building can

985
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,359
actually review

986
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,920
» Uh the consultant's work. Uh this was

987
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:21,440
work that was started by former interim

988
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,680
uh Steve

989
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,960
» Um and was something that was sorely

990
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,560
needed and but we go going forward we

991
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,240
will be monitoring okay this is town

992
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,240
work this is applicant work

993
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,160
» And these are the hours and and really

994
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,119
working with the consultants uh to keep

995
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
that in mind

996
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,200
» We're not done that's still going to

997
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640
continue

998
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,960
» Still going to continue yeah because I

999
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,160
mean we don't this is augmenting staff

1000
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,160
levels that we have

1001
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,200
» Yeah okay those are my questions thank

1002
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,960
you

1003
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,680
» Thank you Mary you have any clarifying

1004
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,280
questions.

1005
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,680
» Well, I do uh I I'm just been trying to

1006
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,119
sort out uh

1007
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,119
how we're doing with our checks and

1008
00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:01,520
balances. Um are our bank accounts uh

1009
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:04,319
reconciled monthly and do we have a sec

1010
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,400
a separate person who rec reviews it and

1011
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:08,640
how does that work and have all our

1012
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,200
findings of the completed audits been

1013
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,440
done and are any have any findings in

1014
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,079
our in our audits that are in process?

1015
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,800
» Right. So the bank wrecks are an ongoing

1016
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,400
process because we're refining and but

1017
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,599
we are capturing everything that's

1018
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,960
coming through

1019
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,599
» Current. Yeah.

1020
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,839
» The the reason why we're recruiting for

1021
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,160
a finance manager is to ensure that the

1022
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:32,720
checks and balances remain that there's

1023
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,839
another level of review.

1024
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,480
» Okay.

1025
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:38,400
And because I we just want to make sure

1026
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,760
that not one person doing everything

1027
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,160
that's part of the process of cash

1028
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,000
handling, depositing and

1029
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,800
» But right now without that person we are

1030
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,720
doing that.

1031
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,560
» Right. We are still doing that. Yes,

1032
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,800
» That's all I want to know. Yeah. Thank

1033
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,079
you.

1034
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,599
» Thank you, Mary Rebecca.

1035
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,599
» Uh yes. Um uh thank you Tony for your

1036
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:05,040
hard work and diligence that's gone into

1037
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:06,640
this. I I very much appreciate that. Um,

1038
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,960
under services, I don't think we

1039
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,160
mentioned laser fees. It's it's a small

1040
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,599
thing in there, but um,

1041
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,200
uh, it's something to think about, I

1042
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:19,200
guess. Um, it's included as one of our

1043
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,200
services and it's a it's a chunk of

1044
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,119
change. So, I just wanted to clarify

1045
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,920
that that is

1046
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:27,599
» Still going to be uh on our budget for

1047
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,680
next year.

1048
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,839
Yes, we do have subscriptions that we

1049
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:36,240
are reviewing.

1050
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:39,440
» And could you clarify um in the in the

1051
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:41,680
records it says capital replacement

1052
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,640
emergency fund a million dollars and

1053
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:47,839
then there's a fund 401 capital projects

1054
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,680
for something like 692,000.

1055
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:53,280
What are the differences of those two

1056
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:55,920
items? So the the capital replacement is

1057
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,520
a category within the general fund

1058
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,960
reserve

1059
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,119
and normally would be used to fund any

1060
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,720
transfers into

1061
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:09,760
uh fund 401 which where we actually pay

1062
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:14,160
for CIP projects out of that fund. Uh

1063
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,920
but it is that fund 401 is

1064
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,000
supported by transfers from the general

1065
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,520
fund which we have not been able to do

1066
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:25,280
the last two fiscal years.

1067
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Okay, thank you. And um when do our

1068
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,079
franchise services fees get

1069
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,280
renegotiated?

1070
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:38,720
» Uh well, three of the four are

1071
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:42,640
established by state law. Um the energy,

1072
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:45,760
cable, and water. Uh the only one that's

1073
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:50,160
negotiable is the wastewater

1074
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:52,640
is the waste with green waste. Um, and

1075
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,440
I'm not sure when that contract is up

1076
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,800
for renewal.

1077
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,880
» Okay. Um, and then under the town

1078
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,040
manager salaries list, it shows a

1079
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,119
$100,000 reduction. I was just curious

1080
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:09,440
how that happens now that we've filled

1081
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:11,440
the assistant town manager position.

1082
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:15,560
» Well, my salary is still being allocated

1083
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,560
between town manager and

1084
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,040
» Okay. And you're anticipating that for

1085
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,240
what period of time for next year?

1086
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,640
» I am anticipating that to remain because

1087
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:29,520
I finance will still report to me.

1088
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,440
» Oh, okay. And then just a clarification,

1089
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,920
I wasn't clear on what cafeteria plan

1090
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,640
management meant versus sort of the

1091
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,640
health insurance line items.

1092
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,040
» Yeah. Cafeteria plan, the town

1093
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:47,119
contributes a portion of um it's to

1094
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,520
offset the cost of the premiums.

1095
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,440
Oh, and and the the line item for the

1096
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,880
health insurance and whatever. That's

1097
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,760
what is that then?

1098
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:58,079
» That's that is the medical premium.

1099
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,280
» That's we pay that.

1100
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:00,720
» Yeah.

1101
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,240
» So, what what are we paying for the

1102
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,560
cafeteria plan management then?

1103
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,599
» Cafeteria plan goes to the employees.

1104
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,319
» Goes what?

1105
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,319
» It goes to the employees.

1106
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,040
» I I guess I'm still confused about that.

1107
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,880
So we are paying a portion of their

1108
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,920
health insurance and their vision and

1109
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,480
whatever.

1110
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,800
» Yeah.

1111
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,319
» And then we are paying something else

1112
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,160
towards

1113
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:28,920
» And then the employees are turning

1114
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,920
around and paying the medical premium.

1115
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,160
» So why isn't that all under health as

1116
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:38,319
opposed to being a separate?

1117
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,079
» Because they're paid to separate

1118
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:41,760
entities.

1119
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,200
» So we account for we account for it

1120
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,480
separately.

1121
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,160
I see. Okay. Um, do you not expect any

1122
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,920
costs associated with the November

1123
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,079
election given that we're considering a

1124
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,440
ballot measure and it's the midterms? Is

1125
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,839
there

1126
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,440
» Yes, we are still reviewing those. We do

1127
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:59,440
have some consulting costs that will be

1128
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,599
related to the election, but yeah, we

1129
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,800
are still reviewing those. There'll be

1130
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,440
attorney time

1131
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,599
» As well.

1132
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,359
» Okay. But that would be put into a

1133
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,960
different bucket.

1134
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:11,440
» Yes, there will be a separate line item.

1135
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:16,520
We have a we have a project number or a

1136
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,520
project code uh for the election.

1137
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:21,520
» But you're saying attorney time would

1138
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:24,000
fall under um the town clerk's budget or

1139
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,680
would it be under the attorney's budget?

1140
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,280
» It would be under the town attorney's

1141
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:33,839
budget. Um but the there there will be a

1142
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:36,240
code that says 26 election. Um, and we

1143
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:39,040
also have the same code in the town

1144
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,400
manager budget for the consultants. And

1145
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:44,160
then we also have um elections cost that

1146
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,800
will be out of the town clerk, but we'll

1147
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:50,160
be able to run a report by project to

1148
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:53,760
show um what the costs are.

1149
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,160
» Okay. Excellent. And but you've already

1150
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,960
put some estimates for those costs into

1151
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,920
into this um study budget or we're still

1152
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,920
you're still working

1153
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:04,319
» Well, we we did put some of these

1154
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,880
numbers in at the midyear with the

1155
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:08,720
intent of carrying over those numbers to

1156
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,280
2627.

1157
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,000
Um but that gives us an idea what the

1158
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,880
number is going to be. Um and then we'll

1159
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,119
roll it over into 2627. But we're still

1160
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,240
we're still paying consultants. We're

1161
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:26,640
still tracking time. Uh so we'll have

1162
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:28,880
that number um for the 24th.

1163
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,520
» Okay. And what exactly is a fuel

1164
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,520
mitigation engineer?

1165
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:39,800
» You want to answer that one?

1166
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,800
» Oh, we know. I know that.

1167
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,119
» I actually just sent an email to Tony

1168
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,839
about that. Um, but a fuel mitigation

1169
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:52,720
fuel mitigation engineer. He is my

1170
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:54,480
manager that manages the fuel mitigation

1171
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:56,240
division at Woodside Fire. And that's

1172
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,040
the crew that does all your rightway

1173
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,960
work and chipping. However, um, I'm just

1174
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,160
looking at that as a separate line item

1175
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,400
because I'm not sure if that was because

1176
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,000
I saw public education mixed with that.

1177
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,000
So, I'm wondering if there was a mixup

1178
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,079
with titles because it's usually that

1179
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,760
you're funding the emergency

1180
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:15,760
preparedness coordinator and public

1181
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:18,079
education officer that runs the epic

1182
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,040
organization that is funded by the town

1183
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:25,359
and Woodside Fire. So, we'll follow up

1184
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:28,000
on that, but that's what the FME is.

1185
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:30,480
» Okay, great. Thanks. Um, and I noticed

1186
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,200
that there was quite a few different um

1187
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,839
line items for software.

1188
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,079
Um, so it it's included for the

1189
00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:39,760
community hall and it's included for

1190
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:41,920
software and licensing for roads,

1191
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,440
repairs, facilities, development

1192
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,319
section.

1193
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Um, I'm just trying to understand what

1194
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:52,559
that what that software is that we're

1195
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,040
using for for those different areas.

1196
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:57,280
» Well, so for open gov, we have several

1197
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,920
modules. One's finance. So those costs

1198
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,920
are allocated to finance. Uh we're

1199
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:04,079
enhancing permit licenses and coding and

1200
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,559
that covers planning and building code

1201
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:08,000
enforcement, public works. So we're just

1202
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:11,000
allocating those costs across all

1203
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
divisions.

1204
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,680
» Okay. So

1205
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:19,359
» We also have

1206
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,760
» Yeah community hall has um

1207
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:25,680
uh community pass. So there's a software

1208
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,680
that we use for uh recording um the

1209
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,520
transactions for reservations and

1210
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,920
payments. Um so those costs are

1211
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:37,040
allocated to community hall uh for

1212
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:40,079
classes. Um we also have um other

1213
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,559
subscriptions that we have for um other

1214
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,880
items other than open gov like blue beam

1215
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:46,480
starlink um and those costs are

1216
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,880
allocated out according to each

1217
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,559
division.

1218
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,160
» Okay.

1219
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,839
Okay. Those are my questions. Thank you

1220
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,400
so much.

1221
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:58,640
» Thank you Rebecca.

1222
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,640
Hi.

1223
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,640
Um,

1224
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:09,119
hold on. Let me um

1225
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,520
um staff is currently reviewing all

1226
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:13,520
consulting contracts for building and

1227
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,240
planning and engineering. When will we

1228
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,559
have know what those contracts what we

1229
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:19,760
have?

1230
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:22,880
» By the 24th. We'll have it for budget.

1231
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,119
» Great. Um,

1232
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,079
can you remind me what the intergovern

1233
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,720
budget. What?

1234
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,000
» I'm sorry.

1235
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,480
» I I didn't hear the end of your

1236
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640
sentence.

1237
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,119
» We'll have it for the 24th when the

1238
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,680
budget

1239
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,079
» Meeting

1240
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,720
» When the budget it's adopted. Thank you.

1241
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:39,920
» Okay. Could you remind me of the 7500 in

1242
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,280
government intergovernmental charge or

1243
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,720
revenue?

1244
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,720
» I believe that's the motor vehicle fee.

1245
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:53,599
» Motor DM fee or are you saying

1246
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,720
» DM? That's the motor vehicle fee. It's a

1247
00:52:53,599 --> 00:53:01,200
Santa Sanonteo County measure that was

1248
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:03,680
passed years ago. We get separate um

1249
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,160
it's either that or it's hopped. I can't

1250
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,800
» Okay.

1251
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,240
» Yeah.

1252
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,240
» Okay. Um

1253
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,839
BLF.

1254
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,839
» Yes.

1255
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:18,480
» You recognize it's not in the governor's

1256
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:19,040
budget or the legislaturator's budget at

1257
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,119
this point.

1258
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,960
» And I never budget the short ball.

1259
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:26,599
» Okay. I always budget what the county

1260
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,599
tells me what's available.

1261
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,839
» I think that number is optimistic.

1262
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:32,160
» No, this is the number. This is what

1263
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,440
they have.

1264
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,359
» That's what they got.

1265
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,079
» This is what the county has.

1266
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:38,880
» Oh,

1267
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,680
» Yeah. It's the shortfall that they're

1268
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,040
fighting for.

1269
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,040
» Got it. Okay. Thank you for clarifying.

1270
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,559
Um

1271
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,480
Okay.

1272
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:51,280
Um

1273
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,640
because of our senior new senior

1274
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:57,440
planner, are we expecting good city

1275
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,640
costs to decrease?

1276
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,680
» Well, we're currently doing that

1277
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,400
analysis.

1278
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,720
» Okay.

1279
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,319
» I can't say yes or no, but I mean

1280
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:08,240
they're still doing work for us even

1281
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:10,079
with the senior planner in in tow. Um so

1282
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:13,839
it's still it's still a cost that's

1283
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:15,359
going to be uh something to acknowledge.

1284
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:17,760
» Okay.

1285
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:18,640
Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Those are my

1286
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,400
questions.

1287
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,800
» Thank you, Helen.

1288
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,480
» So, Tony, just two quick questions. Um,

1289
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,040
the master fee schedule, what do we

1290
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,680
think the rough number is going to be?

1291
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,720
» I I

1292
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,400
» Do you have a range?

1293
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:33,359
» I It could be 250, it could be 400,

1294
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,920
somewhere in that range.

1295
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:35,359
» Okay.

1296
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,280
» The what number?

1297
00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:38,480
» The master fee schedule if once we

1298
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,079
implement it.

1299
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,280
» Yeah. What you what was it? What was

1300
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,920
your question?

1301
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,760
» What that number? how much we would earn

1302
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,240
in addition by implementing the master

1303
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,079
piece.

1304
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,280
» Right. In addition, that's my question.

1305
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:52,480
Okay. Thank you.

1306
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:56,319
» So then Tony, last year we had a, you

1307
00:54:52,480 --> 00:55:00,400
know, a 200 some odd Kk deficit

1308
00:54:56,319 --> 00:55:03,440
and this year we have a 584 deficit,

1309
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,200
but the sheriff's contract was like 488

1310
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,160
hit to the general fund. It seems like

1311
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:10,240
it's 688. So seems like there's 100k

1312
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,559
somehow missing there.

1313
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,800
» Not following you. Um well I was just

1314
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:18,480
trying to take what was our deficit for

1315
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,559
this year?

1316
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,559
» 263.

1317
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:26,319
» Okay. So 263

1318
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,680
» And if you took 263 and added 488 to it

1319
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:28,160
which is what I was roughly trying to

1320
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,200
do.

1321
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,760
» Mhm.

1322
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,520
» That and that number is going to be you

1323
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,920
know six I'm not doing the exact math

1324
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,720
here but it's you know 700k roughly.

1325
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,040
» Right.

1326
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:41,440
» But yet we're projecting a deficit of

1327
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,800
» In revenue too. So that takes it that

1328
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,880
» So that and you so that's the difference

1329
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,040
is we're expecting that increase of

1330
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,880
roughly 200k in revenue.

1331
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,480
» Okay, great. Thank you.

1332
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,799
» I I have one more question.

1333
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,400
» Okay.

1334
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:56,640
» Sorry buddies.

1335
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,880
» Um it it uh we want to have a successful

1336
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,480
efficient welcoming organization uh that

1337
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,440
gives satisfaction to residents and

1338
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,839
employees alike. What level of ongoing

1339
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,839
annual revenue would be required to

1340
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:09,920
restore structural balance to the

1341
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:11,839
general fund while maintaining or

1342
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,640
possibly improving current service

1343
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:17,599
levels and preserving reserves at policy

1344
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:21,440
targets?

1345
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:24,799
» We are still I mean

1346
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,839
» What number are we using?

1347
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:28,960
are we imagining

1348
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:31,760
» 1.5 to two million

1349
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,280
that keeps our reserve at 20% helps to

1350
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,400
absorb any cost increases with the

1351
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:40,000
sheriff's contract. Uh helps us to

1352
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:42,720
continue funding capital projects. Um we

1353
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,240
have a $350,000

1354
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,920
maintenance of effort requirement of the

1355
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:48,079
general fund which we have not met in

1356
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,799
the last two years. So we are at risk of

1357
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:53,920
losing our SB1 RMR funding which is

1358
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:56,480
reduction in transportation funding. Um,

1359
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,359
and there's other capital projects that

1360
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,520
we need to fund like storm drains for

1361
00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:04,480
one. That could be about half a million

1362
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:08,400
there just for a master plan and then

1363
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:11,440
ongoing um costs for maintenance and

1364
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,960
repairs that will be identified in the

1365
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,760
master plan. That's just the tip of the

1366
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,240
iceberg.

1367
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,240
» Yeah.

1368
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,400
» But there are other items that need to

1369
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,720
be addressed. The the vehicle fleet

1370
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,440
needs to be replaced. um that could be

1371
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:27,359
about hundred to $150,000 right there.

1372
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:30,000
Uh because trucks are not cheap. So um

1373
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:32,640
you know, we don't have exact numbers,

1374
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:35,680
but we do have a list of what items need

1375
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:39,200
to be addressed and estimates, but yeah,

1376
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,640
it's well 1.5 would be the range, but if

1377
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,880
we can get more, then we could also

1378
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,839
address our pension liability. We could

1379
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:48,559
pay that down. Um, so there are some

1380
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:50,960
costs that the town has not addressed

1381
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:52,400
historically. Um, and this is an

1382
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,960
opportunity for us to do that.

1383
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,280
» Yeah.

1384
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,319
» And Tony, when you said 1.5, it's 1.5 to

1385
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,400
two is probably

1386
00:57:56,319 --> 00:57:59,680
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just

1387
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,200
» This is something that we're going to

1388
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,359
discuss in July.

1389
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:07,200
» Yes. Well, what I'm what I'm hoping for

1390
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:09,440
is to ask that we have that a slide that

1391
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,000
clearly shows exactly what you just

1392
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,480
finished saying for the presentation.

1393
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:18,119
Yeah, that's all I'm asking.

1394
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,119
» Okay, thank you.

1395
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:22,960
All right, so with that, let me move to

1396
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,280
public comment. So, any hands in the

1397
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:29,160
room? I see no hands in the room, so

1398
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,160
I'll go online. Rita,

1399
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,119
» Hi,

1400
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,359
» Welcome.

1401
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:36,079
» Thank you for taking my comment. Um, you

1402
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:40,079
know, we just had that meeting about the

1403
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:43,280
uh safety element and um that item that

1404
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:45,119
I mentioned, I guess it was S5 on the

1405
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,359
safety element talked about the storm

1406
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:49,280
drains and I think we have a mandate or

1407
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:52,319
something about how we're supposed to be

1408
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,839
u checking them. And I saw on the slide,

1409
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:55,520
one of the previous slides, there was

1410
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:58,240
$20,000

1411
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,079
for in the budget in the proposed budget

1412
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:04,559
for fixing some storm drains. But um

1413
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:09,119
because of the safety element, do we

1414
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:11,119
have to now make sure that the money to

1415
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:13,680
do what we have to do for the storm

1416
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:17,520
drains in the town are part of this

1417
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:20,240
budget? Thank you.

1418
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,480
» Thank you, Rita. Are there any other

1419
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,000
public comments?

1420
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,880
» I can answer that question.

1421
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,799
» Yeah, let me just let's just capture all

1422
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:32,160
of them if there's others. Um, okay.

1423
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:35,680
Zoom user, I'm assuming Dana still.

1424
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:38,799
» Yes. Uh, just following that comment,

1425
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:42,640
um, Portullah Valley historically has

1426
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:47,200
never used curbs and things like that so

1427
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:50,319
that the water spills onto the the soil

1428
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,160
and and filtered itself naturally. So

1429
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,839
that's only the only thing I'm offering

1430
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:59,280
up is that idea is that we tend to be a

1431
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:01,440
curbless town. Thank you.

1432
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:05,240
» Thank you, Dana.

1433
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,240
Any other public comment?

1434
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,720
All right. I don't see any other public

1435
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,160
comment, so I will bring it back to

1436
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,839
council for discussion. And Tony, is

1437
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,280
there anything specific that you're

1438
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:21,599
looking for from us? uh just you know

1439
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,040
what you've received and it's this is

1440
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:25,920
the right direction that we're going but

1441
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,000
I wanted to answer um Rita's question

1442
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,559
because the 20,000 yes that's coming out

1443
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,240
of fund 401 but we also have additional

1444
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:34,720
funding coming out of our gas tax fund

1445
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,799
of about 50 to $50,000 for storm drain

1446
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,200
repairs and these are just for minor

1447
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,520
repairs on the storm drain system

1448
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,480
» Right

1449
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,640
» Not just 20

1450
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,079
» Right and when we talk about the 1.5 to2

1451
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,000
million that's the place that we would

1452
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,040
actually start raising money to deal

1453
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,359
with our storm water.

1454
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,920
» Correct.

1455
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:51,839
» Yeah.

1456
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,119
» Okay. Who would like to go first? Helen,

1457
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:59,240
how about you?

1458
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:59,240
» So, do you have any comments?

1459
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,680
Sure. Rebecca, would you like to go?

1460
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,799
You're bright. I mean, it's early for

1461
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,119
you, right?

1462
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:10,640
» Um, well, I I again, I'll just reiterate

1463
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:12,319
that I really appreciate the efforts of

1464
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,400
the finance department and Tony in

1465
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:17,040
particular to putting this together. I

1466
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,480
think it's an excellent excellent work,

1467
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:24,319
very diligent. Um it certainly shows us

1468
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:27,119
how we are um in a situation with that

1469
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:29,280
black line where in a couple years we

1470
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:32,079
will have passed below our reserve

1471
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:35,040
levels and within a year or two beyond

1472
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:36,960
that and possibly sooner we will run out

1473
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,400
of money and need to do something about

1474
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,160
it. So um I feel like this was the best

1475
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,400
that we can do for this coming year.

1476
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,319
We're obviously not a balanced budget.

1477
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,520
We continue to have a hole that's

1478
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:52,240
growing. Um we don't have a lot of

1479
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,000
options in terms of squeezing here and

1480
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,640
there. And I feel like the depart the

1481
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,520
staff have done a pretty good job of

1482
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,520
really looking um everywhere and trying

1483
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,160
to be more efficient and trying to find

1484
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:08,880
efficiencies wherever we can. So in that

1485
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:10,480
respect um I appreciate that and um I

1486
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,920
don't know that there's too much more.

1487
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,119
for them and we can look at tiny little

1488
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,480
things, but they're not going to have

1489
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:18,799
huge impacts on the budget. Um, so yeah,

1490
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,240
I mean, I I I think we've I think

1491
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:22,480
everything's really been covered what we

1492
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,119
can do. So, I I I appreciate the work

1493
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,920
and I I look forward to having all the

1494
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:29,839
the the open items that were mentioned

1495
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,000
completed in terms of all the analyses

1496
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:35,440
that still need to happen in the next

1497
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,280
two weeks, I guess. Um, hopefully we'll

1498
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:41,839
have a little bit more clarity on some

1499
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,480
of those going forward. Thank you.

1500
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:46,799
» Thank you, Rebecca. Mary.

1501
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,799
» Yeah. I just wanted to follow up on on

1502
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:52,160
on what I was saying before, which is

1503
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:54,000
that I think as the um people who are

1504
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,920
supposed to be doing the policy, we we

1505
01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:00,640
really need to really clearly have the

1506
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:03,359
list of what of I mean, we all know what

1507
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:06,000
the big things are, but with a ticket

1508
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:07,680
with how much it's going to cost and and

1509
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,760
really know what we're going to be up

1510
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:14,559
against if we uh

1511
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,160
if we keep moving in this direction In

1512
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:17,839
other words, we can tighten our belts in

1513
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,799
various different little ways, but we're

1514
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:24,319
going to lose some major major uh things

1515
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:27,440
that that characterize our our town and

1516
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:30,240
which we all think are necessary and we

1517
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,000
need to understand what they are and the

1518
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,599
general public does too.

1519
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,760
» So, I really appreciate your work.

1520
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:38,240
» Mary, can I ask clarifying? Are you

1521
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,000
suggesting that we add something to the

1522
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,760
proposed budget or you're just saying

1523
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,400
that people need to understand

1524
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,760
» In the presentation we need to have a a

1525
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,440
pretty clear uh view of what we're not

1526
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:53,160
going to be able to do?

1527
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,160
» Okay. Thank you.

1528
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:58,400
» Sure. I I don't have too much. I do

1529
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:01,119
appreciate all the work and the

1530
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:04,079
continued communication. It's a vital

1531
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:07,680
time for a town to have information

1532
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:10,480
flow. It may be redundant. It might be

1533
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,119
um kind of pretty basic, but I think

1534
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:16,400
educating the public on our budget and

1535
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:18,400
how we how what elements feed in is

1536
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:22,640
really important. So, sessions like this

1537
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:25,680
are very helpful. Um the only clarifying

1538
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:29,359
point um and I forget the timing for the

1539
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:31,119
the audits and the like. Um there is not

1540
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:32,640
a possibility between now and the next

1541
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:35,839
meeting when we're going to be asked to

1542
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:39,280
approve the the budget that there's any

1543
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:41,839
feedback that could impact the budget or

1544
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:45,119
likely to impact the budget from the

1545
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:49,280
auditors or from any controls, anything

1546
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:51,440
like that. So that's to come later

1547
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,480
and we'll see if any adjustments are

1548
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:57,200
needed later. But just want to confirm,

1549
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:59,680
we're not expecting or you have you're

1550
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:03,359
not aware of anything.

1551
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:06,160
Okay. And just to put a fine point on

1552
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:08,880
the um I always refer to it the

1553
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,920
Christian Co report. We're we've made a

1554
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,240
lot of progress. We're still looking at

1555
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,200
that from time to time and ticking off

1556
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,319
further things. Okay. That's all.

1557
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,599
» We're not done.

1558
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:22,880
» Yeah. We're not done.

1559
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,240
» Yeah. Okay. We're in a state of constant

1560
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,799
improvement.

1561
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,119
» Okay.

1562
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:28,880
» And even if it's a recommendation for

1563
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,960
Christian company that they didn't make,

1564
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,359
if we find it, we we'll implement.

1565
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,359
» Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you very much.

1566
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:37,200
Those I think you've been thorough. I

1567
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:38,319
have no other comments.

1568
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,640
» Thank you,

1569
01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:44,880
» Helen. Thank you. Um yeah, just really

1570
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,280
minor, you know, just a big thank you to

1571
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,920
staff for the belt tightening and you

1572
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:52,960
know, this um

1573
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:57,440
you guys have done a lot um with a

1574
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:59,839
little and so I appreciate that. Um you

1575
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,440
know, tonight the conversation for

1576
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:03,119
instance around the safety element to

1577
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,839
bring that to where it's at is

1578
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:07,760
impressive. Um it does sound like we

1579
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:09,200
might need there is scope creep there I

1580
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,520
think. So, we're probably going to need

1581
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:15,920
to budget a little bit more for that.

1582
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:18,000
» Um, but uh

1583
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,440
I think we're I appreciate what you've

1584
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,599
got you've done and I think we're we're

1585
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,799
in as good of condition as we can be

1586
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:27,440
right now. So, um that's my comments.

1587
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:30,079
Thank you.

1588
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,400
» Thank you, Helen.

1589
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:34,559
So, I would second it. Thanks, Tony. Um

1590
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,240
doing a great job. Um I also appreciate

1591
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,599
I mean I do think we built up our staff.

1592
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,960
I mean, we're we're starting to fill the

1593
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,480
positions, you know, we're not sitting

1594
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,400
there like with half our positions

1595
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,000
empty, so our budget looks better

1596
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,839
because we're not paying people. Like,

1597
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,359
that's kind of the wrong solution. So, I

1598
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:48,400
really appreciate that we're actually

1599
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:50,240
even though we don't have a lot of

1600
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,079
choices in this budget, I I appreciate

1601
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,480
at least we're starting to come together

1602
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:55,920
with a full staff um and that this

1603
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,760
budget represents that. So, I think

1604
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,640
that's great. Um and I would second

1605
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Helen's um working with Sarah to figure

1606
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,599
out if we're going to need any

1607
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,599
additional money on the safety element.

1608
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:08,000
did seem like there's going to be some

1609
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:09,920
additional work involved. Um, but other

1610
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,640
than that, um, I I think it looks good.

1611
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,559
So, thank you.

1612
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,720
» Thank you.

1613
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:20,240
» Okay. So, with that, let me close 7B and

1614
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:23,559
move on to 7 C. So, Veronica, I think

1615
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,559
this is you.

1616
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,520
» Yes.

1617
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:46,960
Okay.

1618
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:50,000
So, uh with the recent signing of SB77,

1619
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there are a couple uh policies we need

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:57,920
to implement before July 1st.

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So uh the first one is a telephonic or

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:05,000
internet disruption policy

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,000
uh for council meetings.

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:15,839
So starting July 1st uh council meetings

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01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:18,159
need to be conducted by a two-way

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01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:20,719
telephonic or audiovisisual service such

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01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:23,199
as Zoom uh which we will continue to

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01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:26,400
use. And as part of that requirement,

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01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:29,040
council needs to adopt a policy uh in

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,679
the event of a disruption during the

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,480
meeting. Uh the policy outlines

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01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:38,080
procedures for recessing and reconvening

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01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:42,400
meetings and the efforts uh council or

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:45,279
staff will undertake to restore service.

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,560
Uh so in the event of a technological

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01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:50,719
disruption or internet outage uh that

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,000
prevents public access to the council

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01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:58,159
meeting, council must immediately recess

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:00,719
the open session and uh make good faith

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01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:03,600
efforts to reestablish

1641
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:06,159
uh telephonic or internet service. Uh

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,960
the recess must be at least for one hour

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01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:12,319
or until service is restored, whichever

1644
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,319
occurs first.

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,159
Uh if service has not been restored

1646
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:21,520
after an hour, council must reconvene

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01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:23,440
and either adjoin the meeting or adopt a

1648
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,440
finding by roll call vote that

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01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:27,839
reasonable efforts were made to restore

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01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:30,080
service and that continuing the meeting

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01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:33,199
in person outweighs the public interest

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:35,040
in maintaining remote access. Uh

1653
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:37,440
however, in the case that there is

1654
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:40,080
little to no possibility of service

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01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:42,960
being restored, such as uh a power

1656
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:45,920
outage, council may decide to adjourn

1657
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:49,400
the meeting uh without attempting to

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,400
restore service.

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:56,560
Uh second policy is uh public posting

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01:09:53,759 --> 01:10:00,000
board for agendas.

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:02,719
um council agendas

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,000
uh need to be translated into applicable

1663
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:09,360
languages based on uh census data for

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:12,000
the town. So even though Portola Valley

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:14,320
doesn't meet the language threshold to

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01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,480
provide translated agendas, we still

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01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:19,040
need to provide a space for the public

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01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:22,080
to post their own translations of

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:25,440
council agendas. Uh this space has to be

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,800
adjacent to the current uh existing

1671
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:31,760
posting board for council agendas and it

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,920
must be freely accessible to the public.

1673
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:36,159
The town is not responsible for the

1674
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,040
content or accuracy of the translations.

1675
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:41,199
We're just providing space.

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,679
Uh so a designated board will be

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01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:46,320
installed next to the existing agenda

1678
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:48,560
posting board outside town hall. The

1679
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:51,520
space is reserved for translated

1680
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:54,159
versions of council agendas only. Uh

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:57,199
there will be specific language posted

1682
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:59,440
indicating such use. Um that language

1683
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:02,640
will also include

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01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:05,199
uh language that stating that the town

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,520
is not responsible for any of the

1686
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:10,239
materials posted and anything not

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:13,239
related to council agendas will be

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01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:13,239
removed.

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Uh, so that's for the first item, the

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01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,640
two policies in the packet. Um,

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,280
» So you're going to stop there, right?

1692
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,920
» Yes. Yeah. Great.

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01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,159
» For now.

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:29,120
» All right. So, any clarifying questions

1695
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:31,199
for Veronica?

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01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,600
» Yeah. Um,

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01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:35,920
the good faith determination of the cost

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:39,199
benefit. Are there any guidelines or

1699
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,199
examples given for or is it really in

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01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:45,360
our judgment?

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01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:47,600
Yeah, the code mostly or only states

1702
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:50,640
good faith efforts. Does not define what

1703
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:54,239
those efforts are. Um I think

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:57,679
» No, it's the I don't mind that. It's the

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01:11:54,239 --> 01:12:00,800
we have to either terminate the meeting

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01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:02,880
or decide to keep going, but that

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:06,960
requires a finding.

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:10,400
» Uh yes. So when the disruption occurs,

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:14,159
we will uh recess the meeting while

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,880
staff uh attempts to fix the outage.

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Like if it's a bad connection in the

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01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,280
schoolhouse, we try to restore that. Um

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01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:24,159
but

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01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:28,000
uh if service is not restored after an

1715
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:31,199
hour then council needs to reconvene

1716
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:34,480
and then make a actual determination to

1717
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:37,120
either continue the meeting or adjourn.

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01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:40,400
Um and if you decide to continue you

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:42,159
need to make a finding that continuing

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01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,679
the meeting outweighs public interest.

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01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,760
And and I'm asking about the legal

1722
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:48,320
standard for that very last point and

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,840
only that point which is

1724
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,000
» Public interest in continuing the

1725
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:55,360
meeting outweighs the public interest in

1726
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,560
remote access. We can continue. Are

1727
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,199
there any guidelines?

1728
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,199
» Okay. I was going to add add just that

1729
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:03,679
this is obviously a new statute so there

1730
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:05,040
isn't any precedent. Um but I think that

1731
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:08,000
the council could in it reasonable

1732
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,679
determination determine if it's there's

1733
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,920
an item where there's a statutory

1734
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:13,199
deadline to complete that item. say an

1735
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,800
election resolution, you've got to get

1736
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:17,280
the election

1737
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:21,120
by a certain date. Um that would argue

1738
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:23,120
for the public interest um uh you know

1739
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,440
uh weighing in favor of continuing

1740
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,520
despite the inability of the public to

1741
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:29,040
zoom in for the meeting. Okay, got it.

1742
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,880
Thanks.

1743
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:35,679
» Could I just add a question? So

1744
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:38,400
what if there's, you know, the next four

1745
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:41,840
agendas have no room on them for

1746
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,520
continuing? Is that a reasonable

1747
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,520
or is it not a statutory deadline? But

1748
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,760
it's just like there's not going to be a

1749
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,280
place to fit it in unless it's sort of

1750
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,920
continued and get sort of getting

1751
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,360
finished. So I mean I'm just trying to I

1752
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,960
mean to J's point it's just kind of this

1753
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,719
judgment call. Um do are we going to

1754
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,280
come up with some kind of policy on

1755
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:02,960
roughly what we think are going to be

1756
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,199
our approaches or we're just going to

1757
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,520
wing it after an hour and try to figure

1758
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:08,960
it out on the fly?

1759
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,920
» I'll I'll take a stab at that. feel feel

1760
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,440
free to um to jump in. I mean, I guess I

1761
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,640
would say the council actually has

1762
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:16,159
unfortunately had the opportunity to

1763
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,080
make some of these judgment calls in the

1764
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:20,800
past because we we've experienced these

1765
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:24,320
outages um here at town hall and I think

1766
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,400
that you know the council has um done a

1767
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,520
good job of figuring out well this item

1768
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,120
you know there's a lot of public

1769
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,040
interest in it. No one's physically

1770
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,280
here. We don't have any ability to

1771
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,560
communicate to them to tell them to come

1772
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,760
here you know to get here to the

1773
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:40,880
schoolhouse. Uh, and so while there's no

1774
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:43,440
legal precedent here, um, I would say,

1775
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,440
you know, the council has some

1776
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:47,520
discretion to make that judgment call

1777
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:49,520
based on the facts and circumstances for

1778
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,159
that particular meeting and that those

1779
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,159
items.

1780
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,719
» Okay. Thank you, Mary. Clarifying

1781
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:55,679
questions.

1782
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:59,199
» Yeah, clarifying question is um going

1783
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:01,520
back to the uh safety element and the um

1784
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:03,760
the possibility of not having any

1785
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:07,679
electricity for months that can follow

1786
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:11,840
an earthquake. Um is there a way that we

1787
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:14,080
could have a not notify what we have

1788
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:18,080
done in the past is notify people

1789
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:20,239
upfront that if they are really want to

1790
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:23,040
hear what's going to happen they uh and

1791
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:25,600
the and it gets disconnected they can

1792
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:27,280
they need to come to the town hall so

1793
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,880
that we can actually move ahead in an

1794
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:34,960
emergency situation because uh the

1795
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:37,679
function of the town has to go on. Um,

1796
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:40,719
and I I'm probably going to be the one

1797
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:43,840
who pushes for the town being a viable

1798
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:47,360
entity of its own without electricity if

1799
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:51,040
it if if necessary. Uh, and I' I'd like

1800
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:53,440
to be able to see a way forward for us.

1801
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:57,199
That doesn't always depend on having the

1802
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:58,880
electronic system up and going.

1803
01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:00,800
In other words, and and that could be

1804
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,159
just as simple as a statement at the

1805
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,760
beginning of the agendas. uh we had and

1806
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:08,480
we do have that right now. Um we're

1807
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,920
going to have to under SP77 actually

1808
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:12,239
remove that statement because the

1809
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,600
legislature has determined that uh the

1810
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:15,600
public has the right to attend those

1811
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,440
meetings by Zoom and that this is the

1812
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,199
established procedure that we use in the

1813
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:21,199
event that Zoom is not working. I mean

1814
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:23,520
you raise a situation that I don't think

1815
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:26,080
the statute contemplates and maybe the

1816
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,000
legislature would have to address in the

1817
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,920
event of a you know I mean it's not

1818
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,440
outside the realm of reality. there's a

1819
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,719
major earthquake and then we don't have

1820
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:37,199
power for for weeks and the um council

1821
01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:39,840
needs to meet because there's priority

1822
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:41,840
items. Um I I don't have the answer. I

1823
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,360
know with with COVID the legislature did

1824
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,159
that quickly to amend the Brown Act to

1825
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,840
allow for fully remote Zoom meetings. Um

1826
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,960
so I would expect something like I would

1827
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,280
hope something like that would happen

1828
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,440
and we talked to our local legislature

1829
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:56,159
um legislator members to make sure it

1830
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:59,120
does. Um but yes that we will not be

1831
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:02,159
able to continue to use that language.

1832
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,560
uh on our agendas to uh provide for the

1833
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:05,280
inperson I'm sorry to to provide for the

1834
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,760
um

1835
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,040
» Even though there is an out there you

1836
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:13,440
can uh determine that it's important to

1837
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,679
meet

1838
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:18,400
» The the the out is essentially the the

1839
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:19,600
um procedure that's that Veronica

1840
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,520
outlined

1841
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:24,400
» Uh that if there's the disruption we've

1842
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:27,520
got to actually try really hard for an

1843
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:30,560
hour to restore it and um and only then

1844
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:33,120
could we continue the meeting uh where

1845
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,199
the public interest balancing test

1846
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:37,520
basically would allow us allow the

1847
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:39,280
council to make those findings.

1848
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,000
» Thank you,

1849
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,880
Rebecca.

1850
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,640
» Uh yes. Um it's just a small practical

1851
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,480
question. When when we're required to

1852
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:52,640
put a new space for a bulletin board, um

1853
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:54,880
is there a physical board going to be

1854
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:57,280
new physical board installed or are we

1855
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:00,159
making room on our existing board? I was

1856
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:04,000
a little unclear on that.

1857
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:07,679
» Uh yeah, a new board that is not locked

1858
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,719
will have to be installed.

1859
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:13,719
» Okay. And um is that an expensive

1860
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,719
proposition?

1861
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:19,280
» Um no,

1862
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,320
it's just a regular bulletin board.

1863
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,960
» I'm just wondering a little bit about

1864
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:25,760
the aesthetics.

1865
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,600
» Well, it it is very interesting. We used

1866
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,679
to have post them in a lot of different

1867
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,080
places and now we're not posting them.

1868
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:34,480
So, we must have a whole bunch of those

1869
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,600
hanging around

1870
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,199
» Or maybe they've been

1871
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,960
» They're still there and we do use them

1872
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:42,520
occasionally when we're required to use

1873
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,520
three different postings.

1874
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,800
» Yeah, that's it for me. Thank you.

1875
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,080
» Thank you, Ellen. Um, just to be clear,

1876
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,800
obviously we've been talking about

1877
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:56,480
outages, but I'm assuming this also

1878
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:59,440
applies to Zoom bombing

1879
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:02,800
» To what? Zoom bombing like you know to

1880
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:04,560
stop the Is that disruptive? No.

1881
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,880
» No. But Zoom bombing I think is a little

1882
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,760
different. If Zoom like let's say Zoom

1883
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:12,320
had a catastrophic cyber attack or a

1884
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,040
failure and Zoom stopped working, I

1885
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,800
think

1886
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,280
» That's a different issue. But like Zoom

1887
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:19,520
bombing, the act of like

1888
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,840
getting a lot of public commenters that

1889
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,840
may I mean to be honest that still is

1890
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,400
happening and as long as

1891
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,600
» They're following the threeminut rule

1892
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,320
they're generally allowed to talk and

1893
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,800
say what they want.

1894
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:36,199
» Okay. So that this does not deal with

1895
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,199
that. Okay.

1896
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,880
» Thank you.

1897
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,640
» Okay.

1898
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,719
» Okay. Thank you. I I don't have any

1899
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,800
comments. Um so I'll open up for public

1900
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:47,800
comment. Any public comment on this

1901
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,800
item?

1902
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:59,560
All right. I don't see any public

1903
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,560
comment online, so I'm going to move on.

1904
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:05,679
» So, we I think once I close public

1905
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:07,679
comment, I this sort of coming in late

1906
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:09,600
after I've waited a significant amount

1907
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:11,520
of time. So, um, I will open it up

1908
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,520
again, but generally once I move off

1909
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,679
this screen, it's sort of back and forth

1910
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,080
doesn't work. So, this this will be my

1911
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:20,159
last time doing this. Once I've closed

1912
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,760
it and moved off, then we're we're done

1913
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:23,679
with public comment. So, go ahead,

1914
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,840
Christie.

1915
01:20:23,679 --> 01:20:28,159
» Thanks. I'm on my phone and it takes me

1916
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:32,159
a minute to get

1917
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:34,640
moving on it. Um, I'm wondering a lot of

1918
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:37,840
times on the Almanac or the PaloAlto

1919
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,520
weekly or the daily, I see the agendas

1920
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:44,080
posted for other council meetings. I

1921
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,679
find it interesting to read them just to

1922
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:48,640
compare. Oh, this time of year they're

1923
01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:51,280
working on that. What is our town doing

1924
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:54,400
in comparison? So I think it is

1925
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:57,440
important to at some point when our

1926
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,520
budget gets to the point we can post

1927
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:02,880
which the daily you can post free I

1928
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:06,560
think but the almanac might charge

1929
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:09,280
um to get more people reading our

1930
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:11,679
information attending the meetings. We

1931
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:15,520
only have one place you're posting now

1932
01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:18,320
which is right by town center. So I

1933
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,640
think we should let everyone know and so

1934
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,560
we get more than 10 people at meetings.

1935
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:25,199
Thank you.

1936
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,640
» Thank you Christie.

1937
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:29,840
» All right. So I'm going to bring it back

1938
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:32,480
to the council. Is there any discussion?

1939
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:35,440
The only comment I would have is this

1940
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:37,040
highlights the importance to me of

1941
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:40,480
resurrecting

1942
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:44,320
not immediately the PV fund attempt to

1943
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:46,480
improve our tele communications

1944
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,600
capabilities particularly in the

1945
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:53,040
schoolhouse. Um, I know that's it's

1946
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:57,040
related because I think this policy

1947
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:59,040
which we have to adopt is,

1948
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,600
you know, problematic because we've got

1949
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,800
to hang out for an hour,

1950
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,960
etc., etc. So, the right way to fix this

1951
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,920
is to have a little bit of of a better

1952
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:13,360
system, but that's it. I don't see any

1953
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:15,679
room to do anything but adopt the Right.

1954
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,360
» Thank you, Mary. No,

1955
01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:19,520
» Rebecca.

1956
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:22,880
Yeah, I wanted to follow on on the whole

1957
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,400
idea of resilience for the town. Um, and

1958
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,600
I forgot to mention this during the

1959
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:30,239
discussion for the budget.

1960
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:32,719
Unfortunately, um, the PCE grant, um,

1961
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:34,320
it's it's been listed as being for

1962
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:36,400
improving energy efficiency, and I think

1963
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:40,560
it absolutely needs to be switched over

1964
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:42,560
to to installing battery backups.

1965
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,199
uh storage for the town center.

1966
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,520
Obviously, we won't be able to afford to

1967
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:50,000
have enough batteries to allow us to

1968
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:54,080
operate for even 72 hours, but if it can

1969
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:56,000
allow us to stay in operation for the

1970
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:58,080
time of a town council meeting, that

1971
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,000
would be pretty critical. So, in the

1972
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,639
event of an outage. So, I think we

1973
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,719
really need to make sure that any money

1974
01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:07,040
we have available from like the PCE

1975
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:09,840
grant that it goes towards battery

1976
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:13,400
storage.

1977
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,400
» Thank you, Helen.

1978
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,960
» Thank you for reminding

1979
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:22,000
us of that. Obvious uh obviously that's

1980
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:26,880
not the agenda item, but I would second

1981
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:32,239
the battery backup. Um but in terms of

1982
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:34,400
the um telephonic uh I'm you know I

1983
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:36,480
think I'm fine with that. Thank you.

1984
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,159
» Thank you. All right. So I don't have

1985
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:40,400
any comments either. I would entertain a

1986
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:41,840
motion to approve this item.

1987
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,280
» Motion to approve.

1988
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,239
» Second.

1989
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,400
» Okay. Veronica. Can I roll call?

1990
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:50,560
» Council member Walter.

1991
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:54,080
» I. Council member Husco. Hi.

1992
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,520
» Council member Flynn. I. Vice Mayor

1993
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,880
Hufty. I

1994
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,800
» Mayor Taylor. Hi.

1995
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,560
» Motion carries.

1996
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,880
» So, Veronica, on this next one, could I

1997
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,400
ask maybe you just summarize the slide?

1998
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,239
You know, we we got them in the packet

1999
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,600
and I can read the slides. So, maybe

2000
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:08,639
just summarize them rather than read

2001
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:13,120
them all the way through.

2002
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:16,560
» Uh yes. So basically, uh, town council

2003
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,600
has authority to, uh,

2004
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,840
» You should put, you should put them up

2005
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,679
so everybody can see them, but just then

2006
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,880
just summarize the slide

2007
01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:26,400
» To, uh, extend

2008
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:30,080
teleconference

2009
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:34,400
uh, capabilities for subsidiary bodies,

2010
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:38,840
which would be for the town uh, town

2011
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,840
council Brown Act committees.

2012
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:44,960
Uh so

2013
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:47,920
eligible subsidiary or advisory bodies

2014
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,120
are ones that are purely advisory. Uh

2015
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,159
they don't have any final

2016
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:54,159
decision-making authority or primary

2017
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:56,719
subject matter over things such as

2018
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:59,719
budget and taxes.

2019
01:24:56,719 --> 01:24:59,719
Uh

2020
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,480
so these advisory bodies would be

2021
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:08,480
excluded from using this

2022
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:10,159
teleconferencing.

2023
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:11,840
uh

2024
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:15,280
capability

2025
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:17,920
and the remaining committees here are

2026
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,440
the ones that would be eligible.

2027
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:23,120
Um

2028
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:25,840
so if council authorizes them to meet

2029
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:28,400
fully remotely uh they need to make

2030
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,080
specific findings that remote

2031
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,239
participation

2032
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:35,360
uh would enhance public access and

2033
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:38,800
participation in those meetings and also

2034
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:43,360
consider the impacts on member diversity

2035
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:46,639
and retention of these uh bodies.

2036
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:49,120
Uh these findings are required for both

2037
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:51,120
the initial approval and council needs

2038
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:54,000
to reauthorize

2039
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:56,800
uh every six months.

2040
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,760
Uh if approved, the bodies conducting

2041
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,760
the remote meetings need to comply with

2042
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:05,199
certain requirements

2043
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:10,000
uh such as uh the body themselves need

2044
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:13,120
to vote uh on meeting fully remote. Uh

2045
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:16,000
physical meeting location needs to be uh

2046
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:18,080
available for public attendance. uh at

2047
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:21,280
least one staff member should needs to

2048
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:24,719
be physically present at that location

2049
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:28,800
and remote members have to appear on

2050
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:31,920
camera during the meeting.

2051
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:35,199
Uh another stipulation of

2052
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:37,679
uh this authorization is it allows

2053
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:41,280
subsidiary bodies to make formal

2054
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:45,280
recommendations to council uh using the

2055
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:47,360
following process. If they such as uh if

2056
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,840
they formally request to present their

2057
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:52,480
recommendations to council, council has

2058
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:55,199
to schedule a discussion within 60 days

2059
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:57,679
of getting that request at a regular

2060
01:26:55,199 --> 01:27:01,520
meeting. It cannot be a special meeting.

2061
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:04,080
The item cannot be placed on consent and

2062
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,600
final action on the recommendations

2063
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:10,639
cannot occur until a subsequent meeting.

2064
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,719
So you can't meet and discuss the

2065
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:17,320
recommendation and vote on it. It has to

2066
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:17,320
be done at a following meeting

2067
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:22,639
and that is it for this one.

2068
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,320
» Thank you. Thank you for the summary.

2069
01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:26,400
All right. Any clarifying questions for

2070
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,920
Ron?

2071
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,880
» Yeah, I have one.

2072
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,840
» Yeah, and I have one too.

2073
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:35,120
» Well, I have a couple. Um, so the

2074
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:39,280
conservate, so the test for whether you

2075
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:41,840
can do this and who's excluded

2076
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:45,679
if I'm only looking at your report. It

2077
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:47,679
says serves in an advisory capacity only

2078
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:51,120
and does not have final decision making

2079
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:54,480
authority over various things. But then

2080
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:56,080
there's a second prong which is and does

2081
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:58,080
not have primary subject matter

2082
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:00,719
jurisdiction over budgets, elections,

2083
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,880
police oversight, privacy, public

2084
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:07,360
library access, taxes or related

2085
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:08,960
spending proposals. So I am questioning

2086
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:13,760
um the conservation committee fitting

2087
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:16,719
into that because it's not only what

2088
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:20,560
» They don't qualify. Yes, I'm questioning

2089
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:22,400
why because it's a two-prong test and

2090
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,040
they definitely have final decision

2091
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:28,560
making over tree permits, but that isn't

2092
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:32,159
a budget item or, you know, police

2093
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:36,239
oversight, privacy, etc. So, are we sure

2094
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:39,120
about that is the question.

2095
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:43,120
» I I can maybe take a stab at this. So,

2096
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:45,199
um this only applies to advisory bodies.

2097
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,520
So we we as a preliminary matter

2098
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:50,080
excluded all decision-making bodies and

2099
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,520
then of those advisory bodies there are

2100
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,480
more there are certain bodies that are

2101
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:56,320
excluded. So the finance committee is

2102
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:57,840
only advisory but they're excluded

2103
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,159
because they have primary jurisdiction

2104
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:03,440
over the budgets and related spending

2105
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:06,320
appro approvals. Um

2106
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:07,840
so anyway that's that's the the reason

2107
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:12,480
for

2108
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:14,320
including uh sorry ex excluding

2109
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:17,440
conservation committee they are

2110
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:20,400
decision- making like um the planning

2111
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:23,840
commission and ASC while they really we

2112
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:26,000
were only able to identify one topic

2113
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:28,000
where they had decision-m authority uh

2114
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,760
we as staff felt like that was

2115
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:32,400
sufficient to take them out of the

2116
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:35,600
category of eligible subsidiary bodies.

2117
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,679
And so maybe I I'll just take this

2118
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:40,960
offline and go look at the legislation,

2119
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:44,960
but it does say it's not just a one

2120
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:46,880
trick, one trigger. It's a couple

2121
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:50,480
different prongs

2122
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:53,520
and like you get they are um not an

2123
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:56,080
advisory capacity only. I guess you're

2124
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:58,800
just stopping there and saying that

2125
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:01,440
takes them out. Okay, I'll I'll go off

2126
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,320
and read it. It just was interesting in

2127
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,480
the way it was phrased

2128
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,320
» And we could bring this back if if you

2129
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:08,320
find that you think that it's really you

2130
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,000
have to have both to be yeah

2131
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:12,000
» Excluded then we'll bring it back and we

2132
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,800
can add them to the other list.

2133
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,480
» Yeah, I I'm not feeling strongly right

2134
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,000
now. We could always do that separately

2135
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:21,360
because we've got to adopt something

2136
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,800
along these lines. It sounds um I am a

2137
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:26,080
little concerned about the one staff

2138
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:29,040
member must be physically

2139
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:31,120
present for public attendance. So, is

2140
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:35,440
that going to change how staffing

2141
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:38,480
currently works for these bodies?

2142
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:39,840
» Yes, it could change it.

2143
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:41,760
But I think when we discussed in the

2144
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:44,400
past, we said the volunteer could staff

2145
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,320
that. So, for example, we had one

2146
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,199
committee member attending, they say,

2147
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,840
"Hey, I want to attend

2148
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:54,960
in the Buckeye room and have the AV

2149
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:57,120
running there." Then they would open the

2150
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,960
door and the public could come in and

2151
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,600
use the AV system there. We could use

2152
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,760
the town hall conference room if nobody

2153
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,120
wanted to come. We have staff in town

2154
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,360
hall,

2155
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,520
» But it has to be a town staff member. It

2156
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,960
can't be a member of the committee

2157
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,360
» Because that the way it's written, it

2158
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,199
sounds like a town staff member.

2159
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,600
» And that was my concern as well.

2160
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:18,639
» Yeah.

2161
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:20,880
» Versus I I I'm fine with a member of the

2162
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:22,639
committee having to come open it up and

2163
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,320
let the public in. That's makes total

2164
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:25,280
sense.

2165
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,960
So

2166
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:30,000
» We can double check that, but I assure

2167
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:32,080
you that won't be a a barrier. And I

2168
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,080
should add that I talked to all the

2169
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,800
committee chairs about this to solicit

2170
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,840
just feedback. And the only one that was

2171
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,480
really interested was bicycle.

2172
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,080
» Mhm.

2173
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:44,000
» Because they have a chair who travels a

2174
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:46,719
lot and they've had a hard time getting

2175
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,480
it members and but then they were deemed

2176
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:50,480
ineligible. But actually I got to be

2177
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:52,960
honest no feedback from anyone. They

2178
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:55,040
seem to think it didn't seem that

2179
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,239
interesting to them. But anyways, back

2180
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,880
to this. It's not going to be a barrier.

2181
01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:01,520
I mean, usually if staff needs to be

2182
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,320
there, we'll come and work if we abs,

2183
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,760
you know, if we have to.

2184
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,960
» You don't think it's a huge burden? No.

2185
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,400
In other words, okay, that's

2186
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,840
» And there was also a conversation I had

2187
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,600
about could we just use the town hall

2188
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,920
conference room? Fine. Yeah.

2189
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,280
» Okay.

2190
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:14,480
» Because we would just really want

2191
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:17,280
reliable AV system.

2192
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:18,320
» Okay. Two quick questions. Oh, sorry.

2193
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,320
Did you have

2194
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,880
» No, it's just a great point.

2195
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:26,080
» Um, so open space, I thought they did

2196
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:28,239
have jurisdiction over recommending on

2197
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:30,320
the budget, but so you pressure tested

2198
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:31,920
that. They they don't

2199
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:37,360
» Just

2200
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:39,520
» On their funds. Okay. All right. Um, and

2201
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,600
the last is if you have a committee of

2202
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:45,120
committees

2203
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:47,280
that's also a subsidiary body

2204
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:49,360
and could take advantage of this because

2205
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:53,080
we do have these other bodies we form

2206
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:53,080
from time to time.

2207
01:32:55,040 --> 01:33:01,199
I think if they if the body was made up

2208
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:04,080
of members of other eligible subsidiary

2209
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:07,360
bodies, I think that would uh that would

2210
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,120
qualify. But if you have a a body that

2211
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,239
has a a planning commissioner or an ASC

2212
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:13,199
member, for example, that would take it

2213
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:15,040
out of uh consideration. I wanted to add

2214
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:17,520
one other note just to make it really

2215
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,120
clear. Um there is no deadline for

2216
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:22,000
adopting this resolution for the

2217
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:24,000
subsidiary bodies. Um unlike the the one

2218
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:26,320
the resolutions that you just adopted,

2219
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,080
there was a July 1 deadline. This one is

2220
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,159
actually entirely optional. So council

2221
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,520
could decide tonight to move forward. It

2222
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:34,080
could decide to continue it or it could

2223
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,920
decide not to move forward at this time.

2224
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,520
Okay, thank you.

2225
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,520
» I just wanted to say that geologic

2226
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,239
safety is very excited about this and

2227
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,639
wants to us to move ahead

2228
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:47,199
if that makes any difference.

2229
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:50,000
» Thank you, Rebecca.

2230
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:52,000
» Yeah, a couple questions. Um, I have a

2231
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,840
little bit of a concern about the uh

2232
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,280
requirement to that town council must

2233
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,520
schedule a discussion on any

2234
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,320
recommendations within 60 days and then

2235
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:02,880
it requires actually two meetings given

2236
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:07,199
how packed our schedules are. Um, is

2237
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:10,199
there any kind of um level where a

2238
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:10,199
recommendation

2239
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,840
I'm trying to figure out how to say

2240
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,440
this. I mean, our committees make

2241
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,960
recommendations every day of the week.

2242
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:19,360
Um,

2243
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,880
you know, is there any kind of limit

2244
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,360
that we could put that it has to be

2245
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,280
based on a goal, a specified goal that's

2246
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:27,600
in their charter or that's that's been

2247
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:29,120
determined for that fiscal year that

2248
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,800
then they've studied it and then they

2249
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:33,760
make the recommendation to town council

2250
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:37,679
as opposed to, you know, sort of, you

2251
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:40,320
know, a random a more random um

2252
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:42,080
recommendation to the town. um that's

2253
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,880
not in their budget, that's not in our

2254
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,639
budget, that's not in their goals for

2255
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,560
the year, that you know just comes up

2256
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:51,440
sort of randomly. Is there any kind of

2257
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,960
limit that can be placed or should be

2258
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:56,239
placed

2259
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:58,080
um on that requirement?

2260
01:34:56,239 --> 01:35:01,360
» U Veronica, I'm happy to take a stab at

2261
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:04,400
that. Feel free to um add to it. So the

2262
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:07,760
the state statute SB77

2263
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,920
refers to any recommendations

2264
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:12,320
um of these eligible subsidiary bodies

2265
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,960
have to go through this um kind of

2266
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:17,760
prescriptive process for taking the

2267
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,800
recommendations to council. Uh Veronica

2268
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,159
actually went back and forth on this

2269
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,760
because I I will say the first time I

2270
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:23,199
read this I I didn't really believe what

2271
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,960
it said. I thought could it really does

2272
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:27,040
this really mean any recommendations?

2273
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,320
But um after talking to some colleagues

2274
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,159
about it, we just believe this is sort

2275
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:34,639
of the quid proquo that the legislature

2276
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:36,960
determined for allowing um committees to

2277
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:39,360
you know meet uh entirely remotely.

2278
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:41,920
They're just adding more procedures uh

2279
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:45,199
to the process for you know in exchange

2280
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:47,840
for their ability to do that.

2281
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:49,679
» Okay. And then in the um paperwork in

2282
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,760
the report it it mentioned something

2283
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:53,920
about any elected officials serving on

2284
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:57,040
the body must comply with you know the

2285
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:59,040
remote code uh including publicly

2286
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,600
noticing their remote location making

2287
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:03,520
accessible to the public. Is it correct

2288
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:07,040
in my assumption that a town council

2289
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:10,000
liaison who has no voting ability is not

2290
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,920
actually officially serving on the body?

2291
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:15,840
They're just serving as they're just

2292
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:17,920
there to report back on on what the

2293
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,800
discussion was, but they they serve no

2294
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:23,440
official capacity on that um committee

2295
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:28,400
and therefore don't have to comply with

2296
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:30,639
any of these um remote uh messaging

2297
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:33,600
rules rules.

2298
01:36:30,639 --> 01:36:36,560
» Correct. Correct. And is there a way to

2299
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:40,080
include that clarification within

2300
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:42,480
whatever ordinance we end up um

2301
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,719
approving or or deciding to approve that

2302
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:49,159
town council leaison are not not

2303
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:49,159
included just for clarification.

2304
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:58,480
I'm just looking at the language. I

2305
01:36:56,719 --> 01:37:01,360
mean, certainly the the council we we

2306
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:04,639
included a draft um policy here for

2307
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:06,239
consideration and uh the council would

2308
01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:08,000
have discretion to amend that to make

2309
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:11,920
any clarifications before adopting the

2310
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:13,920
resolution and adopting the policy.

2311
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,760
» Okay. Thanks.

2312
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:19,119
» Thank you, Rebecca. Ellen.

2313
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:22,320
» Um, so this is a weird one, but I had a

2314
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:25,280
I know someone who

2315
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:27,760
moved away during CO and didn't tell

2316
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:33,679
anyone and stayed on a commission

2317
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:38,080
committee body um, multiple. And so, so

2318
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:40,239
what I'm curious about um

2319
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:43,119
is if we then have committee or

2320
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:45,679
commission members who just always

2321
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:50,239
remote in like I think we would lose

2322
01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:52,719
something. Um, so I'm kind of wondering

2323
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:55,280
I I'm somewhat interested in potentially

2324
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:59,520
limiting to four times a year or

2325
01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:01,679
something um because of that situation,

2326
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,920
but

2327
01:38:01,679 --> 01:38:06,920
that would be my s my comment and

2328
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,920
suggestion.

2329
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:11,679
Okay, thank you.

2330
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,920
» All right, let me check and see if there

2331
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:17,280
are any comments from the public. Rita

2332
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:20,480
Combmes has her hand up. Rita, go ahead.

2333
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:23,840
Hi, thank you for taking my comment. Um,

2334
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:27,199
this policy may help us with some um,

2335
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,600
retention of people and I am aware of

2336
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:31,840
some people um, that have been on

2337
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:34,719
committees and whatnot in the past that

2338
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:37,840
did move away. Maybe they had something

2339
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:41,600
going on in that address um, in town,

2340
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:44,560
but uh, that I think it's not for us as

2341
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:47,280
residents to police that, you know. Uh I

2342
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,560
think everyone that's on these different

2343
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,280
committees and whatnot, they're

2344
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:53,119
appointed by the council. So uh maybe

2345
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:55,360
there's a liazison with the council that

2346
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:58,639
can follow up on uh where people

2347
01:38:55,360 --> 01:39:01,040
actually reside, but people do travel.

2348
01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:05,840
And so it' be nice if um if some of them

2349
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:08,400
can be on um remote and uh you know many

2350
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:10,080
times the uh the geo safety meeting

2351
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,679
which I'm really glad that we've been

2352
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,600
doing for a while. It's an important

2353
01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:16,080
group. you know, their meetings are on

2354
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:19,360
Monday mornings and if there was a

2355
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:22,880
outage that weekend, they do not have

2356
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:26,320
power to run their meetings and there's

2357
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:28,639
nobody around to to help them. So

2358
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:31,840
perhaps um you know for meetings that

2359
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:34,320
are are happening at odd times, you

2360
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:37,199
know, there will be uh staff and maybe

2361
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:40,080
uh the internet will be more secure for

2362
01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:44,800
those for those different um meetings.

2363
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:47,679
And this idea of if a uh committee or

2364
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:50,719
commission proposes something and wants

2365
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:53,760
to meet with the council, you know, uh

2366
01:39:50,719 --> 01:39:55,840
there are times planning commission

2367
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:58,480
hadn't met for months. You know, it was

2368
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:00,560
nice to see them today, but uh the

2369
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:02,480
residents don't have a chance to ask

2370
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:06,080
questions if they're not meeting and we

2371
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:08,639
can't send all of them a question. And

2372
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:12,239
so this might be a way to uh to fix that

2373
01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:15,520
loophole. Uh I'm and I really appreciate

2374
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:17,360
uh you know the five of you that have uh

2375
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:21,040
stepped up to be elected into this

2376
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:24,159
position uh to keep our town safe, but

2377
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:27,360
uh our council has not always been as uh

2378
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:31,440
proactive as this particular one is. And

2379
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:33,600
so um I think moving forward having uh

2380
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:35,199
issues followed up would be a good

2381
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,360
thing. Thank you very much for

2382
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:39,520
listening.

2383
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:42,520
» Thank you, Rita. Any other public

2384
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,520
comments?

2385
01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:47,040
Okay. Going once, going twice, going

2386
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,199
three times. All right. I'm closing

2387
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,280
public comment.

2388
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:53,920
All right. So, bringing it back to the

2389
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:57,320
council for discussion. Who would like

2390
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,320
to go first?

2391
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:04,800
» Okay, Judith. Thank you.

2392
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:07,920
» Sure. Um, look, I do think it's worth

2393
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:11,520
trying myself. Um, we have the right to

2394
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:15,920
revoke the authority at any time for any

2395
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:18,239
reason if we adopt it. And I am curious

2396
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,239
to see if we can get greater

2397
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:23,199
participation

2398
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:28,400
um by some of these bodies and make it

2399
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:31,280
easier for them to to meet. Um, so I

2400
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:33,119
would I would be in favor of trying it.

2401
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,600
I I think there are some legitimate

2402
01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:38,239
questions that are being raised here.

2403
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,480
Um, but I think we can try it out for a

2404
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:43,199
while and see if it's um something

2405
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:44,560
that's manageable. That's my view.

2406
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:46,320
» Thank you, Mary.

2407
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:49,199
» Yeah, I I totally agree that we should

2408
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:52,080
give it a try. Um, in particular, I

2409
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:54,080
think committees like parks and wreck uh

2410
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:56,080
we've gotten the idea that we it's not

2411
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:59,600
possible to be a Brown Act committee.

2412
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,960
Well, it is possible and hopefully these

2413
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,920
little modifications will little by

2414
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:05,440
little will make it easier easy enough

2415
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:08,080
so we can actually get people

2416
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:10,480
participating again.

2417
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:12,560
» Thank you, Rebecca.

2418
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:15,920
» Yeah, in general, I'm uh supportive of

2419
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:18,880
allowing uh these bodies to meet

2420
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:21,520
remotely. Um

2421
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:23,440
I I would like to get a confirmation on

2422
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:26,480
Judith's question about the triggers

2423
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:29,280
whether the two are required to meet the

2424
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:32,239
the level or if it's if it's one or the

2425
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:34,719
other. Um

2426
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:36,080
uh I don't know I don't have a strong

2427
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:38,719
opinion on whether the committee should

2428
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:41,360
meet at least a certain number of times

2429
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:43,360
in person. Um, I think it would be

2430
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,040
helpful to have it, you know, a minimal

2431
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,560
amount,

2432
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,119
you know, at least maybe a couple times

2433
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:52,080
a year in person or something if it made

2434
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:54,239
sense. Um,

2435
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,639
otherwise, I do support committees being

2436
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:59,119
able to meet remotely and attendance as

2437
01:42:56,639 --> 01:43:01,840
well for, you know, individual people to

2438
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:03,600
be able to remotely as well as and still

2439
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,119
participate as a voting member when

2440
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,679
they're traveling. I don't know if

2441
01:43:05,119 --> 01:43:09,600
that's part of this at all. So, that's

2442
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:11,199
that's my viewpoint. I don't know if it

2443
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:14,480
requires

2444
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:16,639
um I if we can go ahead and and and

2445
01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:18,480
approve this tonight or if we need to

2446
01:43:16,639 --> 01:43:21,040
have it have it come back as a consent

2447
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:23,199
item after there's been a little bit

2448
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,679
more um clarification on some of the

2449
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:27,520
open issues or if I don't know I don't

2450
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:31,320
have opinion on that one.

2451
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,320
» Okay. Thank you. Helen

2452
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:36,880
» Maybe I misunderstood. I thought this

2453
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:39,520
was for someone traveling for instance.

2454
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:42,320
Is this for the entire body to be Yeah.

2455
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:43,199
» Remote? Oh, I sorry. I missed that memo

2456
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,520
somehow.

2457
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:46,000
» Somebody has to open it up, right?

2458
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:49,600
» In person.

2459
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:52,000
» In person. Okay. So, um, you know, I

2460
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:55,040
definitely like the idea of being able

2461
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:58,639
to be remote, but I do I think it would

2462
01:43:55,040 --> 01:44:02,400
be important to have, um,

2463
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:06,000
first of all to I I would have like a

2464
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:09,199
maximum of

2465
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:12,080
of a person who's traveling individually

2466
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:16,000
do it four times a year. um is what I

2467
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:21,760
would like because if if they're always

2468
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:25,440
traveling, I'm concerned about that. Um

2469
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:27,679
so, and it would be to me it would be an

2470
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:30,400
honor system out of respect and things

2471
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:33,600
happen, but I would like that. And um

2472
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:38,520
and I do like Rebecca's idea of having,

2473
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:38,520
you know, them meet in person

2474
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:43,920
x number of times. I don't know you know

2475
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:45,440
four times a year also keep it same same

2476
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:49,760
or something so that people can remember

2477
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:52,320
it four and four or something um I you

2478
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:55,199
know and not everyone has to be at that

2479
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:57,040
those four but like that it would be an

2480
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:59,600
in-person meeting at least four times a

2481
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:01,520
year um and if people are traveling then

2482
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:04,320
they can zoom in as well so that's what

2483
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:07,360
I would recommend

2484
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,400
» Thank you um I mean I think we just do

2485
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,480
everything we can to support

2486
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,400
volunteerism in the town. So, I'm in

2487
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:15,280
favor of doing this. I have serious

2488
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:17,280
reservations about this any random issue

2489
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:20,159
getting brought to the council um and

2490
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,600
having to be dealt with in 60 days. But

2491
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:23,280
I think we should do is we should just

2492
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:27,280
pass it. I would recommend we just pass

2493
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:29,520
it as is um and that we try it and see

2494
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,520
if we, you know, if we if we find that

2495
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,960
there are problems, we can then change

2496
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,119
this. I mean, we got to renew it every

2497
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,119
six months anyway. So, I would say let's

2498
01:45:35,119 --> 01:45:38,480
start it and see if, you know, if we end

2499
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:40,639
up getting a lot of random requests,

2500
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:42,639
then maybe we stop doing it. Or if we

2501
01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:44,080
end up with people who are doing remote

2502
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:46,080
all the time and never seeing each other

2503
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:48,400
and we decide that's not a good thing,

2504
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,840
then maybe we add additional language.

2505
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:52,960
But I think we should just pass the

2506
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:54,880
resolution tonight and see how it goes.

2507
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,280
» I second the motion.

2508
01:45:54,880 --> 01:46:00,880
» Um, okay. Not sure that is exactly a

2509
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:02,480
motion, but but but but that wasn't

2510
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:06,080
quite a motion. But but I will make the

2511
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:07,119
motion that we pass the

2512
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:07,360
now. If you want to second that, you

2513
01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:08,400
can.

2514
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,040
» I'll second that motion.

2515
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:12,639
» All right, Veronica, we have a motion

2516
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,280
and a second.

2517
01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:16,280
» Council member Walter.

2518
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:24,320
» Um

2519
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:26,880
uh and happily, yes.

2520
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:30,080
» Council member Hasco,

2521
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:32,320
» I. Council member Flynn.

2522
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:35,280
» Uh, yes. Since we are reconsidering this

2523
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:37,520
in six months. Yes.

2524
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,320
» Vice Mayor Hufty.

2525
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,280
» I.

2526
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,600
» Mayor Taylor.

2527
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:40,560
» I.

2528
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:44,159
» Motion carries.

2529
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,679
» Thank you. Thank you, Helen. I mean, I I

2530
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:46,880
appreciate your comments. I I think we

2531
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:48,320
should just, you know, let's just review

2532
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,040
it in six months.

2533
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,360
» Yeah.

2534
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:53,360
» I know we've already moved, but can can

2535
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:55,280
the committees make decisions about the

2536
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,440
what they'd like to do? In other words,

2537
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,280
would they like to say, I we have to

2538
01:46:57,440 --> 01:47:00,480
have at least one live meeting.

2539
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,639
» So, they can do whatever they want,

2540
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:04,320
right? This just gives them within this

2541
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:05,119
window, they they can do what they want.

2542
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,760
Um,

2543
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:09,520
» Okay. I' I'd like to move on to agenda

2544
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:14,000
item number eight.

2545
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:17,119
» Um, so are there any oral reports that

2546
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:20,639
need to be made?

2547
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:21,520
» No. I mean, the finance committee um

2548
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:24,080
meeting was held.

2549
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:27,600
» I'll make that one. That's right. I

2550
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:31,679
mean, I'm the le I'm the lean actually.

2551
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:34,159
» But um yes, but um happy to trade.

2552
01:47:31,679 --> 01:47:35,440
» No, that's okay. I gota I got to admit I

2553
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:36,320
lose track. But if you're the because I

2554
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:39,760
was going to make that comment, but if

2555
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:41,440
you're feel supplement because I I'll

2556
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,440
get it started. You supplement and then

2557
01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:45,840
we'll deal with it. It I mean we heard

2558
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:48,560
about the budget. So no need to repeat

2559
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:54,880
that. Tony did a great job on that. And

2560
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:58,880
then um you know I will say that um

2561
01:47:54,880 --> 01:48:01,280
it was not clear to me that the members

2562
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,800
knew what they needed to do. In other

2563
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,400
words, some of them felt like they

2564
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:07,280
needed to make a recommendation and

2565
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:09,360
didn't. So there was a little bit of uh

2566
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:11,840
lack of clarity there. But I think it

2567
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:14,080
ended up with them, you know, hearing it

2568
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,880
out, asking good questions, and the

2569
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:18,320
result was the the presentation tonight.

2570
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:21,360
So, I'm going to turn over to Craig

2571
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:23,520
about the the presentation that he made.

2572
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,760
I don't want to characterize that. So,

2573
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,960
and anything else you want to fill in?

2574
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,400
» Yeah, I actually wasn't going to speak

2575
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,920
to that. I was just going to say that I

2576
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,280
thought it was a good robust discussion

2577
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,760
and if people are interested in the

2578
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,840
finances, they should watch the video.

2579
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:38,000
» Yep.

2580
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:41,760
» And everybody should watch the video of

2581
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:44,639
the airport roundt

2582
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:47,119
is fascinating. It's fascinating.

2583
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:49,600
President Trump's unleashed American

2584
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:52,320
drone dominance so that we can have

2585
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:53,920
vertical uh transportation right into

2586
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,560
Portolo Valley LA. It's going to be

2587
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,520
great.

2588
01:48:54,560 --> 01:49:00,000
» I I had actually had to go look that up

2589
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,199
and got really went down a big rabbit

2590
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,360
hole. It was really fun

2591
01:49:01,199 --> 01:49:04,480
» Actually

2592
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,159
right

2593
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:07,360
» But I did want to make a small

2594
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:08,560
correction.

2595
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:11,600
» Oh god.

2596
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:13,040
» Um you have contact Licardo or Mueller

2597
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,880
to let them know.

2598
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:17,440
» Uhhuh. it. I think you meant maybe

2599
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:19,760
Mullen. Congressman Mullen.

2600
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,480
» Um Oh, yeah.

2601
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,000
» Yeah.

2602
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:23,199
» Oh, Mullen. Okay.

2603
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,080
» Yep. Um

2604
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:27,520
» Can't even remember.

2605
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,080
» Yeah. Mueller has no jurisdiction over

2606
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:28,719
federal.

2607
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,280
» Mullen.

2608
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:33,520
» F A M U L E N.

2609
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,360
» Mullen. M U L L I N.

2610
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,840
» I N.

2611
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:40,159
» Um. So,

2612
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,880
» Thank you. Sorry, small correction.

2613
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:42,639
» It's okay.

2614
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:45,679
» Okay.

2615
01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:46,880
But there's an opening.

2616
01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:49,679
» You do conserve.

2617
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:51,920
» I just want to get money from the SFO.

2618
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:53,840
Really, that's all I wanted for the

2619
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:56,719
town.

2620
01:49:53,840 --> 01:50:02,119
Um, I do have a small conservation

2621
01:49:56,719 --> 01:50:02,119
committee I covered for Rebecca. Um,

2622
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:06,719
it's a contentious committee. There's a

2623
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:08,800
lot of tension on it. I just uh I hope

2624
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:10,480
that people who know people who are on

2625
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,360
it, we need to talk to people about

2626
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:18,719
being respectful of each other.

2627
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:21,199
Um and they are working on a list. I'm

2628
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:24,880
going to try to get this straight. List

2629
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:26,880
of planting that would be ministerial.

2630
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:30,239
Did I get that?

2631
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:32,400
It's Yeah, it

2632
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:34,239
objective standards. Thank you. Not

2633
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,239
ministerial. Thank you. You're right.

2634
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:39,600
objective standards. So a plant list

2635
01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:42,159
that would be objective and we you know

2636
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:47,040
so that they can easily plant when

2637
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:50,000
things are being developed. So but the

2638
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:52,719
but right if you have remind people to

2639
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,560
be kind and respectful on on that

2640
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:57,840
committee if you know people there

2641
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:59,520
» We we also I'll just point it out. I

2642
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:02,560
don't want to discuss we have the code

2643
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,239
of ethics that applies so it might be a

2644
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,400
tool

2645
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:08,960
» For you it

2646
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:12,280
» Well it's usually Rebecca's but I was

2647
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:12,280
sorry Rebecca

2648
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:20,239
» But we you know I just you know we all

2649
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:22,800
have um know people on that you know on

2650
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:28,159
that committee so there's been some

2651
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:31,600
chatter to me so um just it we need to

2652
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:35,600
make sure that the tone on committees

2653
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,400
are thoughtful and kind and

2654
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:40,880
thank you.

2655
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:44,800
» Thank you. Okay. Um so with that I will

2656
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:47,599
open it up to public comment.

2657
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:49,360
Is there any public comments?

2658
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:52,400
See no one in the room. I see no one

2659
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:55,040
online. Going once, going twice, three

2660
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:57,760
times. Gone. Okay. Um then I would look

2661
01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:01,520
for a motion to adjourn. So moved.

2662
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,520
» Second. Thank you everyone. Great.