1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,159 This government meeting is brought to 2 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:04,240 you by Eastworks and our local cable 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:22,630 subscribers. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 to order this meeting of the 911 tribute 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,480 committee. We have four members in 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,800 person and we have three absent. Um we 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,079 don't believe we have anyone here for 8 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,559 public speak. So we will move right on 9 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:39,920 to our first um first item which was 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,040 discussion of design ideas and I believe 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,960 uh Tom had sent out an email. 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Believe it was an email. 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,440 >> Yeah. 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,399 Um yeah, regarding the online 15 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:58,239 monument quote, I agreed to research 16 00:00:58,239 --> 00:00:59,680 determined that is more practical work 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,120 with a local company for custom 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,960 specifications we require. Still 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,640 awaiting final quotes. However, I have 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,280 attached a photo the stone for reference 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,760 engraving on the stone simply to give us 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,240 an idea of the characters that we'll 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,720 have to work with based on the quote we 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 get. Um 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,200 then we've all seen 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,439 that one there. Yeah. Um, I be able to 27 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,960 print it out. Fantastic. Uh, and then I 28 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,520 know we had wanted uh to kind of send 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,640 draft ideas of what we wanted to 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,280 actually have on the engraving. Uh, I've 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,680 received none since I also didn't do 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,479 one. So, so I think we're all 33 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:44,640 >> Yeah, we're all guilty a little guilty 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 of that one. Uh 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,880 >> I feel like that should perhaps come 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,640 from 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 whoever designs it too to some like we 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,159 can say these are the like parameters we 39 00:01:56,159 --> 00:02:00,789 want to include X Y and Z but 40 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:03,200 I mean the I keep going back to the 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,880 charge of the committee but you know was 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,719 to come up with the RFP so that someone 43 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:10,000 could design it and have like 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,200 that contribution you know 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,520 >> um so if we're like do this, say this, 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,000 you know, use these materials. It kind 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,560 of takes away from that. 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,920 >> Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. 49 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:26,160 >> Yeah. My thought was is that if this is 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,680 going to be private funding, then 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,550 there's no RFP process required. 52 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,319 » Well, then is there a committee 53 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:36,879 required? 54 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:40,480 I mean, uh, I think the goal of the 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,800 committee at this point or even from the 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 start was just to to come up with a, uh, 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,120 911 memorial. I think the approach of, 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,879 you know, trying to do the RFP, doing 59 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,680 the outreach, um, I think was one 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,280 approach. 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 If we were getting funding from city 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,920 council, I would say it should be the 63 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:02,879 approach because, you know, if you're 64 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,440 getting the taxpayer money to go that it 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,879 should be going to, I think an artist in 66 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:08,800 the community where we're doing the 67 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,040 fundraising ourselves. I think the goal 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,640 really just does become creating the the 69 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,519 monument. And I think it is, yeah, the 70 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:19,040 charge of this committee to determine 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,519 what that monument should be. Um, I'm 72 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:24,400 not opposed at all to uh, you know, the 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,080 RFP idea. 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,959 I just think 75 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:32,879 I think fundraising is going to be where 76 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,280 a lot of the um committee's energy is 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,159 going to be where if we were getting um 78 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:39,840 some type of stipen to do this then I 79 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,959 think the energy could have really put 80 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:44,080 into an RFP. But you know what are what 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,879 are people up for? Uh because I think 82 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:48,799 after the 83 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:51,680 override the override doesn't pass I 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,040 will no longer be on this committee. Um, 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,400 so it's going to be down another member. 86 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,599 So the question really is, you know, if somebody I I think Tom will probably 87 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:05,200 be taking lead on fundraising. That's 88 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,560 what I've gotten from my conversations 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,200 with them. If, again, if you want to 90 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,599 take lead on on trying to get an RFP 91 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:12,959 together and doing the outreach to 92 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:15,040 artists, that's still very much on the 93 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,959 table. It's just where do people want to 94 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,199 be working on this? Um, I just think my 95 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:23,040 opinion realistically, I know where we 96 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,720 all had this idea of, well, we'll all 97 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,600 write something quickly and then we all 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,479 have what we do in our day-to-day lives. 99 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:34,400 It's um, realistically, but, you know, 100 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,080 are you up for for putting that in 101 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,680 there? Because I think that's that's a 102 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,880 lot and it's why I'm hesitant to 103 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,160 volunteer for something like that. Um, I 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,240 would not want to volunteer anyone for 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,720 that, but if you're up for it, like it 106 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,840 is we are well in the stages where um, 107 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,199 we could definitely still do that. 108 00:04:57,199 --> 00:04:59,840 >> Not sure how to capture any old he just 109 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,000 said. I was just listening. I'm like, 110 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,479 wait, I'm not writing. 111 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:07,520 >> We've got a focus on on fundraising. Uh 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,320 and the question is do we want does does 113 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 anyone here want to do the the the work 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,800 for outreach to artists? Um there there 115 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,039 is some middle ground I guess. I mean 116 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:21,360 certainly we could try to figure out a 117 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,720 way to to interest artists in submitting 118 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,120 some sort of ideas. 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,240 I don't know whether 120 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,360 this the writing skills and the artistic 121 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,039 skills 122 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:37,600 are going to exist in in a sing in a 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,120 singular person. So I don't know that I 124 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,800 mean we we could we could try and see 125 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,440 what they come back with. 126 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,400 >> I I I would say 127 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,960 well two things. one um the charge which 128 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,639 I happen to have in my little folder 129 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,840 here does not specify 130 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:01,360 artists. It says um a contractor that 131 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,280 specializes in memorials, monuments and 132 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:05,840 or similar specialized experience. So 133 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,919 it's 134 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:11,840 there's that um which doesn't I think 135 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,240 exclude artists but it doesn't it 136 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,199 doesn't specify artists. Um, I think 137 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:24,160 getting the idea right um and that we 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 can I I I think it does matter um that 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,360 we come up with some kind of language. 140 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,560 It doesn't have to be the final 141 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,639 language, but just to just to express 142 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:40,240 like what it is we want this thing to to say. Um, I'm a word person and I of 143 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 course I I didn't I didn't draft 144 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,319 anything either, but um but I do think 145 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:46,880 that that it's not you know I mean I 146 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,080 know we've talked about what we want 147 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,080 this thing to say but I think that it 148 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,039 would help us to identify the right 149 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:58,240 person, company, organization, artist um 150 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,919 or someone who really wants to do it. If 151 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:01,360 we say like this isn't the story we want 152 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,840 to tell like this is why this is why 153 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:07,680 this this this monumental memorial this 154 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,840 is why East Hampton 155 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,759 this is why this is you know this is 156 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:14,080 what it does. So 157 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,199 >> um but I think that having you know if 158 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,919 we especially if we want if we end up 159 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:22,400 with an artist doing we do want them to 160 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,759 bring their their vision. 161 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:30,160 >> Yeah. I guess it's not as much like it has to be an artist. I 162 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,639 think it just needs to be somebody who 163 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:34,319 >> who wants to make this whether that's a 164 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:36,880 crafts person or you know a stonemason 165 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,199 or an artist or you know whatever. Um, 166 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:44,240 I mean my concern because initially one 167 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,919 of the first places was by the 168 00:07:47,919 --> 00:07:50,000 fire and police building 169 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,639 >> and to me like something like what this 170 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,080 says which is you know on September 11th 171 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,919 all these people 172 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:01,520 >> died and it was a tragedy like 173 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,560 makes more sense next to something like 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,560 that where people are dedicated to 175 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,000 risking their lives every day and the 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,240 cause of, you know, serving the 177 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,360 community as opposed to by the pond 178 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,800 >> which is like where people go to relax 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,240 and have RNR and, you know, fish and 180 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,680 play with their families and that kind 181 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,479 of thing. Um, 182 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:29,599 to me that seems like a very heavy 183 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:31,919 message to be sending like 184 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:33,360 >> and to outsiders who come to East 185 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,440 Hampton, you know, and they're like, 186 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,120 "Oh." 187 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,269 Um, 188 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:44,640 I agree. But that's I mean 189 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,200 on that. 190 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:45,440 >> Yeah. 191 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,040 >> And I know that's not like exactly 192 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,240 what's going to be written, 193 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,000 >> but something in that more traditional 194 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,200 vein 195 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,600 >> I think makes more sense there than Yes. 196 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,480 by the I agree. I agree. 197 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,760 >> What do you all think? 198 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,720 >> Um I was troubleshooting here a little 199 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,640 bit where Tom apparently is trying to 200 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,640 join online. So, I was just getting him 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,680 the uh the information here. Um 202 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:12,480 or what? 203 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,480 >> Well, I think it's invisible over on the 204 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,360 side of the cultural safety context. 205 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,480 >> Yeah. 206 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,560 >> And that's the really the only reason 207 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,480 that I don't think that's a great spot. 208 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,160 >> Yeah. 209 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,839 >> And I like the uh And again, I like the 210 00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:28,000 pond just because it it it fits into the 211 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,519 theme of reflection. 212 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,800 >> I like I like the pond as a location. I 213 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,800 just want to be sure that we're doing 214 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,240 the right thing by the pond. 215 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,720 >> Yeah. Not making the pond into like a 216 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,720 place that people are like, "Oh, that's 217 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:51,190 stressful." 218 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,160 » I mean, as far as the concepts that Tom 219 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,080 provided, I like them both. I think 220 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,560 they're both interesting. Um, they're 221 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,680 two different kinds of work. you know, 222 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,160 so that I guess it depends on who we can 223 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,150 find that's interested. 224 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,480 I know that he had mentioned um an 225 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,240 individual that does metal sculpting, 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,839 which in my mind fits this concept. 227 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:19,760 >> And what was remind me in the email he 228 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 said that was a replica of something. 229 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,320 >> This is Well, I think this is a replica 230 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 of the uh the memorial in New York City. 231 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,399 I think it's the the Freedom Tower. Is 232 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:31,839 that not 233 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:34,240 >> That's what that building looks like. 234 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 The new building they built on that site 235 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,560 or 236 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,959 >> I believe double check that. 237 00:10:40,959 --> 00:10:42,959 >> Yeah, that's that's the 238 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:44,320 >> the Freedom Tower. 239 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:44,959 >> Oh, okay. 240 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:45,839 >> Y 241 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:49,670 >> I find it 242 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,279 not 243 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:52,959 that's for you. 244 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:58,150 >> I know, right? 245 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,160 And I think I mean if I were to say what 246 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,920 do I personally like I kind of like the 247 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,399 stone engraving more than the metal but 248 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:07,120 that's a personal thing and it it I 249 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 wouldn't be object I wouldn't object to 250 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,920 either concept. Um 251 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,720 yeah I like again just sharing opinion I 252 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,160 like both um this one and this one but I 253 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,920 don't necessarily love the freedom 254 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,839 tower. Uh, but you know, I like kind of 255 00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:27,120 the the general idea. Uh, I definitely 256 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,440 like that plaque. Um, 257 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,040 so I think but yeah, I definitely I I 258 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,880 like this type of design, something 259 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,519 modest, something that's not going to be 260 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:42,320 um, 261 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,800 yeah, we're keeping the pond the pond, 262 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,600 but having something there that fits 263 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,040 that seam of reflection without 264 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,720 necessarily drawing too much attention 265 00:11:50,720 --> 00:12:07,030 to itself. 266 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:41,590 on the call. We can get him in here. 267 00:12:41,600 --> 00:13:00,710 King 268 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,440 I was also thinking for 269 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,360 come up with language to actually put on 270 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 there. East Hampton does have a poet 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,240 laurate. Um could reach out to ask and 272 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,320 see if they might be interested in 273 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,560 putting something together. Um 274 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:18,160 >> have to be short 275 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:28,150 >> be very short. 276 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Who is it? 277 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,000 >> I don't know their name. See if I can 278 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:39,110 find it. 279 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:47,030 Uh 280 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,680 AI is to be believed is Carolyn 281 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:56,389 Zikowski 282 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,399 » a couple years ago. Is it like an 283 00:13:58,399 --> 00:13:59,279 ongoing 284 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:00,639 >> Yeah, I'm trying because I thought it 285 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:07,750 was somebody new. Um 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:18,790 I can ask ask Alina uh tomorrow I fear. 287 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,560 » Tom, are you with us? Can you hear us? 288 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,160 >> I am. 289 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,760 >> Thanks for sending that link. I 290 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,399 appreciate it. 291 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:29,600 >> Yeah. Carolyn Saikowski 292 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,320 term is 2025 to 2027. 293 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,000 >> Oh, okay. 294 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,800 poet, fiction writer, essaist, and 295 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,590 creative writing instructor. 296 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:49,600 » You were uh talking about the uh 297 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,839 for how we want to do the engraving. We 298 00:14:51,839 --> 00:14:54,480 uh nobody sent anything in for writing. 299 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,360 We all they all skipped that. Um, 300 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,959 >> I think maybe reaching out to uh our 301 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:03,360 poet laurate for the city uh and seeing 302 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,440 if they maybe would have some ideas to 303 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,399 put on there. Um, 304 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:12,639 but I think generally uh we like the 305 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,120 ideas here. I like the stone. I like the 306 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,560 metal engraving. Um, didn't necessarily 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,560 love the the tower, but I think 308 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,680 everything else about it kind of 309 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,480 captures it. Um, 310 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,399 and where uh, so I think these images 311 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:29,600 came from. You probably put it in the 312 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,120 email. Where did that these ones come 313 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:31,920 from? 314 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,519 >> Oh, I did that. I just kind of did that 315 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:43,110 through chat. GPT. Cool. 316 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,120 And so far with the dimensions that I 317 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,320 was using for the stone, 318 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,920 um, 319 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,759 just the first quote that I got for the 320 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,880 stone itself was 10 and a half thousand. 321 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,199 >> Mhm. 322 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:56,320 >> Oh, wow. 323 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,470 >> Yeah. 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,639 I imagine a plaque would be less 325 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:03,920 expensive. 326 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,839 >> Yeah. It was just a matter of 327 00:16:05,839 --> 00:16:18,949 constructing something for it to sit on. 328 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:21,040 No, another thought would be to maybe 329 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,240 have and see if the DPW can put like a 330 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,839 general stone down there to mount a 331 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:30,079 plaque on like a one of those large 332 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:32,079 >> sort of 333 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:33,920 non-polished stones. 334 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,360 >> Ones that are always sticking out of the 335 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,399 ground. 336 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:40,230 >> Yeah. 337 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,680 I can definitely ask Greg about 338 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,000 that and then we can see what it would 339 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,800 be with the 340 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,560 plaque route. How much is a plaque? Do 341 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,279 we get a quote on on that at all? 342 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,079 >> No. Um 343 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:56,000 the the person I spoke with, Chris 344 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Kofelt, um who's one of the local 345 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,680 artists, he mentioned that he had has a 346 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 bronze guy in that he works with out of 347 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,870 Seattle. 348 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,559 Um, 349 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,600 so I was kind of hoping he was gonna he 350 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,789 was able to come today, but 351 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:19,520 All right. Um, 352 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 yeah, we'll see quote a plaque and we 353 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,280 can kind of go from there. And then I 354 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,959 guess what's the uh what's the 355 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:28,480 fundraising strategy? How uh how do we 356 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,720 want to approach this? I mean, I think 357 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,120 once we have what we're actually looking 358 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,640 to 359 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,280 put there is advertise that that's what 360 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,720 we're putting put in there and then 361 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,440 solicit solicit additional donations, 362 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,840 you know, put out a letter or um you 363 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,960 know, maybe even get it in the paper. 364 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,160 >> So, what we're really supposed to come 365 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,320 up with is a scope of work, right? 366 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Scope of work. We don't have to design 367 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,520 the thing. But if we say we want this 368 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,510 thing 369 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,750 that's what we have to do, right? 370 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,200 You want me to reach out and see 371 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,390 um 372 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,559 that 373 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:23,760 >> do that. 374 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,880 would be very good. Um, 375 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,430 >> what's her last name? 376 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,120 » It's got a lot of consonants. Is it 377 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,480 Caroline or Caroline? 378 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,799 >> Carolyn. C A R O L Y N. 379 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,240 >> Okay, that is Caroline. 380 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,440 >> Z A I K O W S K I. 381 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,039 >> Okay, thank you. 382 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:50,480 And you know her, Rebecca? I see her on 383 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,120 her daily walk every day. So I have time 384 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,559 my interception of her walk. I don't 385 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,710 really know her though. Okay. 386 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,679 » So I think Caroline's uh correct that we 387 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:05,280 are just looking for the scope of work. 388 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,880 But if we do the scope of work without 389 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,960 any additional 390 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,120 effort for making the design or anything 391 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,440 like that, it's really hard to it's 392 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,120 really hard to solicit any kind of funds 393 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,640 to be able to cover. And especially 394 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,080 since we've 395 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,960 >> initially we we took a look at this 396 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,640 project and said, "Oh, it's about 397 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,280 $10,000. There was no funding source." 398 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,160 Um, I think it's it's a matter of trying 399 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,960 to, 400 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,919 you know, adjust as we go to and that, 401 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:40,880 you know, I'm just I'm just wondering 402 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,000 what you guys think about that is is um 403 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,760 we can come up with a scope of work, 404 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,640 hand it in, and it it'll stall right 405 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,000 there. 406 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,840 >> No, I agree with you, Tom. Some visuals 407 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480 are are are a good idea, 408 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,200 >> right? 409 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,799 >> Who wants to read stuff? They want to 410 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,760 look at stuff. 411 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,679 >> Yeah. 412 00:20:01,679 --> 00:20:05,600 >> Um, yeah, I think we should have a quote 413 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,559 for the stone, which we have, and then 414 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,280 for the plaque as well. I'll I'll see uh 415 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,320 if it's feasible for us to get a large 416 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,000 folder moved over there to mount the 417 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,480 plaque and get costs for that. So, we 418 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,960 kind of have two fundraising goals that 419 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,559 if we can hit 10,500, we can go with the 420 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,880 stone. If not, we can go with the 421 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,880 boulder plaque idea, assuming it's 422 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,320 meaningfully cheaper. 423 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,400 >> Where would the boulder come from? 424 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,159 >> Uh, yeah. 425 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:37,600 >> So, they just rocks everywhere. 426 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,760 >> Yeah. We'd have to give them some sense 427 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,320 size. 428 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:40,799 >> Yeah. 429 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,159 >> You know, how big the plaque is because 430 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:43,679 you need to find something that's got a 431 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:45,600 relatively flat area on it. Large 432 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,990 enough. 433 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,510 » Yeah. 434 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,240 So that's 435 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,720 >> So Tom, you can probably between now and 436 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,880 the next meeting get some sense of what 437 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,200 that cast plaque might run us. 438 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,159 >> Yeah, I can I can do that. 439 00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:10,799 Um, 440 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:13,919 I'm wondering, uh, I'm wondering if we 441 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:17,520 could actually get it done through the 442 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 I doubt it, but the National Cemetery 443 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,799 Administration if they would take if 444 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:24,320 they if we could put in for something 445 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,080 like that. 446 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,679 Um, 447 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:29,600 I'll see if there's a way to possibly do 448 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600 that. They're the ones who put out all 449 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,880 the veterans um, uh, bronze markers, 450 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,159 grave markers. Oh, 451 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:38,080 >> okay. 452 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,880 So, I doubt they'd, you know, stray from 453 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,559 what their actual job is doing that, but 454 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,320 >> it's worth a shot. 455 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,159 >> Yeah. And they may they may be able to 456 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:51,200 make a recommendation about someone too, 457 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,320 >> right? 458 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,200 >> Cemetery what? Administration. 459 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,240 >> Administration. Okay. 460 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000 >> Yeah. They're a a branch of the VA, 461 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,230 >> basically. 462 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,799 Thank you for these concepts. 463 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:11,919 They were great. 464 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:15,280 >> You must be a master. 465 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,480 >> What's that? 466 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880 >> Must be a master with chat GPT. 467 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,559 >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's a good uh 468 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:27,830 it's a good cheater program. 469 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,360 » It's actually very helpful for things 470 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,880 like this. Very saves a lot of time. 471 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,320 There you go. 472 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,909 gets a lot of TDM out of the way. 473 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:42,240 All right. Um, 474 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,200 do we want to get into a uh what the 475 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,559 fundraising strategy looks like or how 476 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,760 do we feel about that? 477 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,520 >> I think it's until we know what we're 478 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,360 fundraising for, that's difficult. Yeah, 479 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,120 I I think it would be good to have our 480 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,039 the rest of our committee here to speak 481 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:04,400 to that because I think that they 482 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,640 they're so invested in a specific way. 483 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Yeah. 484 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,400 >> But Tom, nice work on the on what you've 485 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,200 already done. 486 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,520 >> Yeah, 487 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,510 >> for that amazing. That's amazing. 488 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,039 » Appreciate it. 489 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:21,360 >> My mailbox here, too. 490 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,559 >> Excuse me. 491 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:26,559 >> Mailbox here. 492 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:29,039 I did you say I did you ask me if I have 493 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,400 a mailbox here? 494 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,720 >> Yeah. 495 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,760 >> City hall. 496 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,760 >> Oh, yes I do. Yeah. 497 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,520 >> I brought a check, so I'll just leave it 498 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,640 there. 499 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 >> Oh, great. 500 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,720 That's great. Thank you. 501 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,029 >> Great. 502 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:51,039 So, another option too. I mean, I could. 503 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,360 The only thing with the polished stone 504 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,520 is when you go too small, it starts 505 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,600 losing its luster. 506 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600 >> Um, 507 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,520 so I mean, I could get a quote for a 508 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,000 smaller about half the size. I don't 509 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,240 know if it's 510 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,679 um something that 511 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:12,400 we should be looking into. 512 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200 >> I kind of like the idea of a natural 513 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,000 >> Yeah. 514 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,520 >> like that. like a boulder because 515 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,760 >> nothing polished about what happened, 516 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,600 you know, like 517 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520 >> Yeah, 518 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,360 >> raw elements, right? 519 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,600 >> That's a good point. 520 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,760 >> I like that. That gives a whole 521 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,360 different vibe to 522 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:36,799 >> Yeah. And depending upon what's 523 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,039 available, that might drive our size, 524 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:46,470 too. 525 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960 All right. Um, yeah, I'll talk to Greg 526 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200 tomorrow, see the feasibility of getting 527 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,320 a stone from somewhere to there and that 528 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,840 would be able to get a plaque on there 529 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 and then figure out what the cost would 530 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,240 be of a fixing a a plaque to a stone, 531 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760 having that made, and then we'll know 532 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,919 kind of what our our fundraising targets 533 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:10,000 are. 534 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,400 I think after the override uh and we're 535 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,159 through to the new budget year, it may 536 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:19,440 be um 537 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,480 more oxygen in the room for other other 538 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,720 projects. So, 539 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760 uh we'll find out that 540 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,750 >> sounds like a good plan. 541 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,559 » Uh so, I'd make a motion to approve the 542 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,640 minutes. Thank you. 543 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:44,070 >> I second that motion. I 544 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,679 » want to pick a meeting date 545 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,480 >> then 546 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,559 go with my calendar's not coming up 547 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,120 here. I'm assuming first Monday 548 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,320 >> which is I think the first Monday. 549 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,840 >> Yep. And that's what I have on our 550 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,520 agenda. July 6. That works for 551 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,080 everybody. 552 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,520 >> Yep. 553 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,240 >> Yes. 554 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720 >> Cool. Uh as I said the start of this 555 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,960 meeting uh if the override doesn't pass 556 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,960 I will no longer be with the committee. 557 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 So you folks will have to uh elect a new 558 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,559 chair then uh 559 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:17,440 otherwise 560 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,480 >> isn't how we 561 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:18,960 >> what's that? 562 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,880 >> Let's hope we don't have to do that. 563 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,480 >> Let's all hope the override goes 564 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,440 through. So 565 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,279 >> I'm sorry that must be stressing but 566 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:28,880 yeah 567 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,200 very stressful. Uh, would you reserve a 568 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,600 room for that date? 569 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,520 >> Yes, absolutely. Um, 570 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,320 you go ahead. Do we like down here? 571 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720 >> Cozy of the cave. 572 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,679 >> It's better than being 573 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:46,559 >> kind of with us. 574 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,760 >> It's being up behind the deis for our 575 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,039 small committee. Yes. 576 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,520 >> Uh, but yeah, I can go ahead. I'll uh 577 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,200 book that and I will send out the 578 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,470 invites for that tomorrow. Um, 579 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,640 we'll go from there. Anything else we 580 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:09,190 want to touch on before we adjourn 581 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000 and do I have a motion? 582 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,279 >> I'll make a motion. 583 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:16,559 >> Second. 584 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,320 >> All in favor? 585 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,919 >> This government meeting is brought to 586 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:22,080 you by Eastworks and our local cable 587 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,080 subscribers.